[ CITY OF BAYTOWN NOTICE OF MEETING CITY COUNCIL REGULAR MEETING THURSDAY, MAY 14, 2020 6:30 P.M. COUNCIL CHAMBER, CITY HALL 2401 MARKET STREET, BAYTOWN, TEXAS 77520 Due to the COVID 19 Disaster and the CDC's recommendation regarding social distancing measures, the public may not be allowed to be physically present at this meeting, as there is a limited amount of space when maintaining the required 6-feet separation from others. For those members of the public that cannot or do not wish to be physically present at the meeting, they will be able to participate through two-way communications. For video conferencing, use the following website www.zoom.com, click on "join a meeting" on the top right hand corner, and input the following Meeting ID: 911-9024-3128. For telephone conferencing please use the following toll-free number: 1-888-788-0099, Meeting ID: 911-9024-3128. Any person, who is participating through video/teleconferencing and is interested in speaking on any item on the agenda, must submit his/her request via email to the City Clerk at cityclerk@baytown.org. The request must include the speaker's name, address, and phone number that will be used if teleconferencing as well as the agenda item number. The request must be received prior to the posted time of the meeting. The agenda packet is accessible to the public in both HTML and PDF formats at the following link: https://www.baytown.org/city-hall/city-clerk/agendas-minutes. City Council Meetings are broadcast on the City's Municipal Channel, Channel 16 and on the website at: https://www.baytown.org/city-hall/public-affairs/baytown-tv-public-service-announcements. After the meeting, a video recording of this meeting will be made available to the public at https://www.baytown.org/city-hall/city-clerk/agendas-minutes. For more information or questions concerning the teleconference, please contact the Office of the City Clerk at 281-420-6504. AGENDA CALL TO ORDER AND ANNOUNCEMENT OF QUORUM PLEDGE AND INVOCATION Council Member Robert C. Hoskins, District No. Five ]
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ALRIGHT, SO NOW I'LL CALL THIS MEETING TO THE BAYTOWN CITY COUNCIL REGULAR, UH, MEETING TO ORDER.
IT IS 6 32 AND WE WILL BE LED IN OUR IN PLEDGE AND INVOCATION BY COUNCIL MEMBER HOSKINS, PLEASE JOIN ME IN THE PLEDGE.
I PLEDGE UNITED STATES RESERVE AND WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, AN INDIVIDUAL WITH LIBERTY.
LIBERTY AND JUSTICE, JUSTICE TRIAL.
HONOR FLAG OUR REACH TO BE TEXAS ONE, ONE STATE UNDER GOD.
LORD, WE COME BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING AND WE ASK YOUR DIVINE HELP.
YOU KNOW THAT WE ARE ABOUT TO MAKE SOME DIFFICULT DECISIONS THAT IMPACT THE LIVES OF THOSE WE SERVE.
GRANT US THE WISDOM TO KNOW WHAT TO SAY, COMPASSION TO SAY IT HONESTLY, AND THE OPENNESS TO HEAR THINGS WE MAY WANT TO HEAR AS WELL AS THINGS WE MAY NOT WANT TO HEAR.
MAY OUR WORDS HEAL AND NOT HURT.
MAY OUR SHARING BE DONE WITH KINDNESS AS WE RESPECT THOSE AROUND US.
GRANT THAT WITHIN THIS GROUP THERE MIGHT BE THE KINDNESS OF ATTITUDE THAT WILL ALLOW US TO FACE OUR CHALLENGES AS ONE BODY CARING FOR ONE ANOTHER.
LET OUR COMMENTS BE FOR THE COMMON GOOD OF THIS GREAT CITY.
WE ASK A SPECIAL PRAYER FOR THOSE THAT ARE AFFECTED BY THE PANDEMIC THAT'S GOING AROUND.
BLESS THOSE THAT HAVE LOST LOVED ONES.
AND WE THANK YOU FOR BEING WITH US.
WE MAKE THIS PRAYER IN YOUR NAME, GOD OF ALL LIFE AND ENDLESS RESPONSIBILITIES.
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WE HAVE A ONE, A CONSIDERATION OF THE APPROVAL FOR APPROVAL OF THE MEDICINE, THE, UH, CITY COUNCIL REGULAR MEETING HELD ON MARCH 26TH, 2020, UH, TO ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR APPROVAL.MOTION TO SECOND I HAVE A MOTION TO SECOND.
ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? ABSTENTIONS.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MINUTES AS WRITTEN, PLEASE SAY AYE.
[a. Present a proclamation designating May 17-23, 2020, as National Public Works Week.]
A, WE HAVE A PROCLAMATION IN PRESENTING, UM, DESIGNATING MAY 17TH THROUGH THE 23RD OF 2020 AS NATIONAL PUBLIC WORKS WEEK.AND NO ONE WANTS TO COME AND SIT.
HUH? I DON'T THINK THEY'LL, YEAH, I THINK THEY HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL IT'S THEIR TURN.
SO, BEFORE I, BEFORE I READ THE PROCLAMATION, I JUST WANNA SAY, YOU KNOW, CERTAINLY THIS IS, THIS IS DIFFERENT TERRITORY FOR ANY MUNICIPALITY TO GO AND OFFER CITY SERVICES, UH, PUBLIC WORKS, THE THINGS YOU DO EVERY DAY.
I MEAN, YOU'RE, YOU ARE IN CONSTANT COMMUNICATION WITH OUR CITIZENS IF IT'S JUST DEALING WITH, WITH THE DIFFERENT ISSUES THAT WE PRESENT.
UH, PUBLIC WORK HAS ALWAYS BEEN, UH, I THINK TOP TIER HERE IN THE CITY OF BAYTOWN IN, IN PROVIDING THE CITIZENS THAT NEEDED SERVICES, UH, ESPECIALLY IN, IN A ENVIRONMENT WHERE WE HAVE TO KIND OF MAKE SURE WE PROTECT OURSELVES FROM HEALTH CONDITIONS AND OBVIOUSLY OUR, OUR PUBLIC, UM, YOU KNOW, THE BAYTOWN PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT HAS ALWAYS BEEN, UH, JUST AN OUTSTANDING DEPARTMENT HERE IN THE CITY OF BAYTOWN.
Y'ALL CONTINUE TO GO AND, AND MAKE US VERY PROUD.
SO WITH THAT, WE DO HAVE OUR PROCLAMATION FOR PUBLIC WORKS WEEK.
UH, SO WHEREAS PUBLIC WORK SERVICES PROVIDED IN OUR COMMUNITY ARE INTEGRAL PART OF OUR CITIZENS' EVERYDAY LIVES, THE SUPPORT AND UNDERSTANDING AND INFORMED CITIZENRY IS VITAL TO THE EFFICIENT OPERATION OF PUBLIC WORK SYSTEMS AND PROGRAMS SUCH AS WATER, WASTEWATER, STREETS, DRAINAGE, TRAFFIC CONTROL, FLEET MAINTENANCE, AND SOLID WASTE.
THE HEALTH, SAFETY AND COMFORT OF THIS COMMUNITY GREATLY DEPENDS ON THESE FACILITIES AND SERVICES.
THE QUALITY AND EFFECTIVENESS OF THESE FACILITIES, AS WELL AS THEIR PLANNING, DESIGN, AND CONSTRUCTION, IS VITALLY DEPENDENT UPON THE EFFORTS AND SKILLS OF OUR PUBLIC WORKS EMPLOYEES.
THE EFFICIENCY OF THE QUALIFIED AND DEDICATED PERSONNEL WHO STAFF PUBLIC WORKS IS MATERIALLY INFLUENCED BY THE PEOPLE'S ATTITUDE AND UNDERSTANDING OF THE IMPORTANCE OF THE WORK THAT THEY PERFORM.
SO NOW, THEREFORE, I, BRANDON CAP MAYOR OF THE CITY OF BAYTOWN, TEXAS DO HEREBY PROCLAIM THIS WEEK OF MAY 17TH THROUGH THE 23RD, 2020 AS PUBLIC WORKS WEEK AND IN IN BAYTOWN, AND CALL UPON ALL CITIZENS AND CIVIC ORGANIZATIONS TO ACQUAINT THEMSELVES WITH THE PROBLEMS INVOLVED IN PROVIDING OUR PUBLIC WORKS AND TO, UH, RECOGNIZE THE CONTRIBUTIONS WHICH PUBLIC WORKS EMPLOYEES MAKE EVERY DAY TO OUR HEALTH, SAFETY, COMFORT, AND QUALITY OF LIFE.
BRANDON CAP, MAYOR OF THE CITY OF BAYTOWN.
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UH, MR. SEMINO AND, AND ALL YOUR EMPLOYEES.A LOT OF 'EM, MOST OF THE TIME WE CAN SEE THEIR FACES, BUT, UH, Y'ALL DISCONTINUE TO KNOCK IT OUTTA THE PARK AND WE ARE VERY PROUD TO HAVE YOU AS, AS REPRESENTING A LOT OF TIMES YOU ARE THE, THE FACE OF BAYTOWN IN PUBLIC WORKS.
AND SO WE, WE ARE VERY PROUD, UH, AND CERTAINLY WE WANT TO GO AND, AND PROVIDE YOU THIS PROCLAMATION FOR YOUR EFFORTS.
THANK, I'LL STAND NEXT TO YOU AND HOWEVER THEY CAN GET 1, 2, 3.
[a. Conduct a public hearing concerning a request to amend the City of Baytown official zoning map to rezone approximately 42.06 acres of a 58.7 acre tract, located on the southwest corner of Interstate Highway 10 and Sjolander Road, legally described as Tract 1K Abstract 954 A Smith, Harris County, Texas, from an Open space/recreation (OR) zoning district to a Light industrial (LI) zoning district.]
WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM THREE A, CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING CONCERNING AND, UH, CONCERNING A REQUEST TO AMEND THE CITY OF BAYTOWN OFFICIALS ZONING MAP TO REZONE APPROXIMATELY 42.6 ACRES OF A 58.7 ACRE TRACK LOCATED ON THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF INTERSTATE 10 AND SHORELAND ROAD, LEGALLY DESCRIBED AS TRACK ONE K ABSTRACT 9 5 4 A SMITH, HARRIS COUNTY, TEXAS FROM AN OPEN SPACE RECREATIONAL ZONING DISTRICT TO A LIGHT INDUSTRIAL ZONING DISTRICT.MS. FOSTER, GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNSEL, UH, THIS PARTICULAR ITEM IS REZONING, AS YOU SAID, OF, I'M SORRY SIR.
WE HAVE A LOT OF SPEAK PEOPLE OKAY.
THE PUBLIC HEARING SCRIPT PLEASE.
SO TODAY'S PUBLIC HEARINGS, UH, BEING HELD FOR THE PURPOSE OF GIVING ALL INTERESTED PARTIES THE RIGHT TO SPEAK AND BE HEARD.
EVERYONE DESIRING TO SPEAK AT TODAY'S HEARING SHOULD HAVE EITHER SIGNED THE APPROPRIATE LIST AND THE FOYER OR EMAIL THE CITY CLERK PRIOR TO THE POSTED TIME OF THIS MEETING.
EACH SPEAKER SHALL GIVE HIS OR HER NAME AND ADDRESS IN ORDER TO PROVIDE A PROPER RECORD OF TODAY'S HEARINGS.
THE RULES ALLOW EACH SPEAKER THREE MINUTES TO PRESENT INFORMATION.
HOWEVER, I ENCOURAGE EVERYONE TO BE AS BRIEF AND TO THE POINT AS POSSIBLE.
IF YOU ARE IN A GROUP OF PERSONS WISHING TO ADDRESS THE COUNSEL ON THE SAME SUBJECT MATTER, PLEASE SELECT A SPOKESPERSON TO PRESENT THE INFORMATION.
AND IF ANYONE HAS ANY QUESTIONS, PLEASE DIRECT THEM TO ME.
SO WITH THAT, I'M ASSUMING WE DO HAVE A LIST.
WE DON'T HAVE TO GET TO IT YET, BUT WE, DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY? I HAVE AN IDEA.
SO, UM, AND I'LL AND I'LL HAVE A LIST OF NAMES WHEN, WHEN IT'S TIME.
SO WITH THAT, UM, I THINK, UH, FIRST WE'LL HAVE MS. FOSTER, UH, GO AHEAD AND AT LEAST EXPLAIN THIS ITEM TO COUNCIL.
UH, THIS ITEM IS ALONG I 10 AND SHO IT'S APPROXIMATELY 42, UH, ACRES OF LAND.
A GOOD PORTION OF THIS LAND ARE ABOUT 16 ACRES OR SO.
THIS LAND WAS ACTUALLY, UH, ZONED INTO, UM, THE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL ZONING DISTRICT BACK IN 2013.
UM, THE APPLICANT TODAY IS REQUESTING TO REZONE THE BALANCE OF THIS PROPERTY, UH, TO LIGHT INDUSTRIAL, TO BUILD A, UH, TO CONSTRUCT A BUSINESS PARK.
THIS PROJECT ACTUALLY WENT BEFORE CITY COUNCIL, EXCUSE ME, BEFORE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION, UM, IN DECEMBER AND NOVEMBER AND DECEMBER OF 2019.
AND THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION ACTUALLY, UH, RECOMMENDED DENIAL FOR THE ZONING CHANGE.
THEY HAD SEVERAL, UH, UH, ITEMS OF CONCERN, UM, THAT THEY SHARED ALONG WITH MANY OF THE RESIDENTS IN THAT AREA.
AND IT INCLUDED, UH, THINGS LIKE INCREASED TRAFFIC FOR THE DEVELOPMENT.
UM, THE WAY THE DEVELOPMENT WOULD BE, WOULD LOOK ALONG SHO, UM, AND THE LARGE BUILDINGS AND WAREHOUSES.
THEY WERE CONCERNED THAT BIG WAREHOUSES ALONG OUR EASTERN ENTRYWAY TO THE CITY OF BAYTOWN WOULD, UM, WOULD NOT BE APPEALING AND NOT SOMETHING THAT THE CITY WANTED.
SO THE PLAN ZONING COMMISSION DID RECOMMEND DENIAL BACK IN DECEMBER.
UM, AFTER THAT TIME, THE DEVELOPER, UM, WORKED ON ADDRESSING THOSE CONCERNS AND MET WITH SEVERAL, WITH SEVERAL DIFFERENT PEOPLE, INCLUDING STAFF AND, UH, OTHER MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY TO LOOK AT HOW THEY CAN ADDRESS THOSE CONCERNS.
UM, THEY HAVE PROVIDED A NEW PLAN FOR YOU ALL TO REVIEW.
THAT WAS IN YOUR PACKET, I'M GONNA SHOW YOU NOW.
I'M NOT GONNA GO OVER IT IN DETAIL BECAUSE THE DEVELOPERS ARE HERE AND WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT, PRESENT THOSE ITEMS TO YOU.
UM, BUT HERE'S A, A DIFFERENT SITE PLAN THAN WHAT THEY SHOWED TO, UM, PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION AND SOME OF THE NOTABLE CHANGES THAT THEY DID, UH, ON THE SITE PLAN.
AND AGAIN, THEY CAN GO IN DETAIL IS PROVIDED A, UH, VEGETATIVE BUFFER LANDSCAPE BUFFERING ALONG SHO THAT, UM,
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ALSO INCLUDES THE DETENTION FACILITIES SO THAT, UM, BUILDINGS WILL BE APPROXIMATELY 400 FEET, UH, AWAY FROM SHO.THEY ALSO, UM, UH, CLOSED UP THE ENTRYWAY ON SHO LANDER.
ORIGINALLY THERE WAS TWO POINTS OF ENTRY INTO THIS BUSINESS PARK.
THE OTHER WAS ON SHO LANDER THAT IS NOW, UM, A, UM, STREET THAT ONLY HAS 9 1 1 ACCESS.
SO THERE WILL NOT BE THROUGH TRAFFIC, UH, THROUGH TO SHELL LANDER.
THEY'VE ALSO LOOKED AT, UH, SIZING THE, THE, UH, BUILDINGS SO THAT THEY'RE NOT LARGE WAREHOUSES.
SO YOU CAN SEE THE DIFFERENT SIZES OF THE BUILDINGS.
SO YOU CAN ALSO SEE SOME OF THE RENDERINGS THAT THEY'VE PROVIDED THAT SHOWS LANDSCAPING ALONG I 10 A SIGN.
UM, ALONG SHO ALSO WITH THE SIDEWALK, THERE WAS A REQUEST TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S A, A SIDEWALK ALONG SHO LANDER, UH, WHICH WOULD CONNECT CLOSE TO WHERE THE UM, UH, GAS STATION FILLING STATION IS AT THE CORNER.
WITH THAT, I HAVE NOTHING, UH, FURTHER TO ADD 'CAUSE I KNOW WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE SIGNED UP.
SO THE STAFF, OF COURSE IS HERE FOR QUESTIONS.
ALRIGHT, THANK YOU MS. FOSTER.
LET ME READ YOU, UH, SOME SCRIPT HERE AND THEN WE'LL GET TO THE, UH, CITIZEN COMMUNICATION.
AN I CALL TO ORDER OF THIS PUBLIC HEARING CONCERNING THE REQUEST TO AMEND THE CITY OF BAY TOWN'S OFFICIALS ZONING MAP TO REZO APPROXIMATELY 42.06 ACRES OF A 58.7 ACRE TRACK LOCATED ON THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF INTERSTATE 10 IN SLANDER ROAD FROM, UH, OR ZONING DISTRICT TO A LIGHT INDUSTRIAL ZONING DISTRICT.
SO WITH THAT, UH, FIRST PERSON I HAVE UP HERE, UM, TWO NAMES.
WHAT AM I FREE TO SPEAK? YES SIR.
OUR MAIN CONCERNS WAS THE LANDER EXIT ONLY AT THE TIME WE HAD A QUESTION ABOUT THAT AND THAT WAS NOT ANSWERED TILL THE END OF THE MEETING AFTER EVERYONE HAD SPOKE.
AND THEN THEY SAID, YEAH, YEAH, WE ONLY GOT ONE SHOW THAT NOW THEY'RE SAYING I GOT ONE ON THE FEEDER, WHICH IS NEEDED TO HAPPEN.
NOW WE TALKING ABOUT MULTIPLE DEATHS.
IF PEOPLE TRIED TO TURN LEFT ON SHOLAN WITH TRAFFIC, THAT'S THE WAY IT IS.
WE'RE OVER A THIRD OF A MILE FROM I 10 AND TRAFFIC WOULD BACK UP PAST MY HOUSE EVERY DAY.
THAT'S NORMAL TRAFFIC, NOT VIRUS TRAFFIC, NORMAL TRAFFIC WITHOUT ANY 18 WHEELERS, WITHOUT ANY BUSINESS ACROSS THE STREET.
VERY BAD, HORRIBLE, REAL, REAL HUGE SAFETY BUSINESS.
THAT'S MY MAIN CONCERN BECAUSE OF LIFE SAFETY OF HAVING KIDS AND THEN GRANDKIDS THAT DON'T ALWAYS EXERCISE THE CORRECT SAFETY DRIVING.
SO THE NEXT CONCERN BIG TIME WAS THE FLOODING.
YOU PUT THAT MUCH STUFF OUT THERE, WATER'S GOTTA GO SOMEWHERE WITHOUT FLOODING IMPROVEMENT FROM THIS POINT TO THE END POINT, IT'S A NO BRAINER.
AND THAT'LL BE US AND THE CITY OF PROPERTY.
EVENTUALLY, UH, DURING HARVEY WE GOT WATER UP TO THE SLAB AND DID NOT GET IN OUR HOUSE.
WE WERE THE ONLY ONE I'M AWARE OF THAT DID NOT GET IN OUR HOUSE.
EVERYONE ELSE IN OUR AREA GOT PRETTY MUCH GOT FLOODED AND THAT WAS HORRIBLE.
SO MY CONCERN THERE WOULD BE RETENTION POND ENGINEERING IS BACK FROM THE FORTIES OR FIFTIES AND THIS HAS BEEN UPDATED.
BUT I WATCHED AS THEY BUILT THE NEW HIGH SCHOOL, I DROVE TO WORK THERE EVERY DAY AND I WATCHED AS THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS CAME UP AND THE SCHOOL WAS BUILT, DITCHES THAT NORMALLY WOULD HAVE A COUPLE OF INCHES WERE FULL AFTER A NORMAL INCH AND A HALF, TWO INCH RAIN FULL.
NO DOUBT IT'S GOING TO HAVE A HUGE IMPACT, NO DOUBT WHATSOEVER.
PUT A HARVEY ON TOP OF THAT AND EVERYBODY'S GONNA GET DESTROYED.
SO THERE WOULD HAVE TO BE IMPROVEMENTS MADE TO THE DRAINAGE FROM THIS POINT ON TO ALLOW THAT VOLUME OF WATER TO PASS ABOVE AND BEYOND WHAT CURRENTLY EXISTS.
UH, YOU'VE ALREADY ADDRESSED IT SOUNDS LIKE THAT THERE WILL NOT BE A SHO UNDER EXIT.
AGAIN, THAT WAS LIFE AND DEATH SITUATION.
THAT WOULD BE A TRAFFIC NIGHTMARE.
LIKE YOU CANNOT IMAGINE, YOU ONLY HAVE TO DRIVE DOWN THOMPSON ROAD AND THEN PICTURE ADDING HUNDREDS OF 18 WHEELERS A DAY.
IMAGINE WHAT IT COULD BE LIKE.
IT WOULD BE A NIGHTMARE FOR THIS ENTIRE AREA WITHOUT DOUBLING.
IF YOU TURNED IT INTO A FOUR LANE, IT WOULDN'T BE GOOD, BUT IT MIGHT BE DOABLE.
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SIR, IF I CAN GO AHEAD AND GET YOU TO MAKE YOUR LAST COMMENT, UM, YOUR TIME IS UP.UM, UM, IF YOU DON'T MIND, AND ALSO CAN YOU STATE YOUR ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD? SORRY, SORRY.
CAN YOU STATE YOUR ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD AND MAKE YOUR LAST CLOSING COMMENT? OKAY.
MY ADDRESS IS 68 0 6 SHO ROAD MC.
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AND I DIDN'T HAVE A CLOSING ARGUMENT.
I'VE GOT SEVERAL POINTS TO MAKE.
WILL YOU, THE NEXT ONE, IS THERE BEEN A SURVEY IN THIS AREA, SIR, ON
BUT I DID WRITE DOWN YOU DID HAVE THE TRAFFIC CONCERNS AND RETENTION OF AND AND FLOODING ISSUES.
SO I'LL HAVE TO MOVE ON TO OUR CITIZEN.
OTHER, THE OTHER ISSUE WAS THE SIR, THE PEOPLE PRESENTED BEFORE.
I'M HAVE TO MOVE ON TO OUR NEXT CITIZEN.
'CAUSE THEY GOT SPEAK AFTER EVERYBODY ELSE AND THEY REQUESTED THAT AND WE DIDN'T HAVE A CHANCE RECEIPT.
SO THE ORDER, UH, THAT WE'LL BE GOING IN JUST SO YOU'LL KNOW IS, UH, NEXT WE WILL HAVE JANICE ROLAND AND THEN THOMAS PARENT WADEL.
SCOTT AND EMMANUEL, UH, VALEZ EZ.
THOSE ARE THE FIVE THAT WE'LL HAVE THAT ARE, UH, COMING INTO US, UM, FROM, UM, CALLING IN.
SO NOW WE'LL MOVE ON TO JANICE ROLAND IF YOU, IF YOU MAY, SHE'S BEEN UNMUTED.
MY ADDRESS IS 78 30 MCDANIEL STREET.
I AM A NEIGHBOR OF THE FIRST SPEAKER.
UM, I DID NOT GET WATER AS WELL, BUT IT WAS, UH, VERY CLOSE.
AND HARVEY, JUST FOR INFO, I GUESS MY, I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS.
IS IT, IS IT SMALL INDUSTRIAL PARK? IS IT GOING TO BE A HIRING CENTER FOR CONTRACTORS OR IT, I I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY, THEY REFER TO AS PLANT SERVICES.
I DID READ THEIR APPLICANT'S STATEMENT SO THAT I MOSTLY HAVE QUESTIONS FROM IT.
UM, DO WE KNOW, IS THERE ANY CAPITAL PROJECTS IN OUR AREA THAT THEY'RE CONSIDERING? DO THEY HAVE ANY LEASE OR ANY TENANT THAT'S ALREADY COMMITTED TO THIS FACILITY? WE ALREADY HAVE 2 MILLION SQUARE FOOT OF EMPTY WAREHOUSE SPACE IN BAYTOWN.
SO I'M NOT UNDERSTANDING WHY THIS WOULD BE A ECONOMICAL IMPROVEMENT IN OUR CITY.
UM, AND THEN ALSO, WHAT ARE WE PROPOSING TO STORE THERE? ARE THEY GOING TO PUT ANY HAZARDOUS MATERIALS? EVERYTHING THAT THEY STORE IN OUR CHEMICAL PLANTS ARE MOSTLY STORED ON RAIL CARS, AS MOST OF YOU KNOW.
UM, WE, WE, UH, HAVE, OUR INDUSTRIAL PARK IS CEDAR PARK AND IT HAS ACCESS TO RAIL PORT, UM, TRUCK.
AND IT HAS ACCESS TO THE CHEMICAL PLANTS, BOTH LAPORTE AND BAYTOWN.
SO THE AIRPORT FROM HERE TO, TO, UH, THIS NEW FACILITY THAT THEY'RE PROPOSING IS 40 MILES.
WHEN YOU PUT YOUR GPS, UH, WHEN YOU INPUT GPS FROM THE PORT, IT BRINGS YOU RIGHT DOWN SHO ROAD, SHO LAND ROAD CANNOT TAKE THAT KIND OF TRAFFIC.
IT ALSO, AS YOU KNOW, THERE'S FAMILIES, THERE'S A SCHOOL, THERE'S A STADIUM.
UM, THERE'S JUST A LOT OF, OF TRAFFIC.
AND THE ONLY BENEFIT TO WHINING THIS ROAD WILL BE FOR THE WAREHOUSE.
THERE'S NO OTHER FACILITIES THAT WOULD BENEFIT.
UM, AND I'M A BIG PROPONENT OF TRAFFIC CONTROL COMING OFF THE INTERSTATE.
UM, WE WOULD HAVE TO, HOW WOULD YOU CONTROL TRAFFIC GOING INTO THAT FACILITY? WOULD WE BACK TRAFFIC UP ON THE HIGHWAY? AND AS JOHN SPOKE, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT SERIOUS ISSUES.
WE'VE HAD IT BEFORE WITH CONTRACTORS OUT AT CHEVRON, WHICH, UM, SOME OF YOU GUYS KNOW THAT I HAVE SPOKEN MY OPINIONS ABOUT THAT WE HAVE TO HAVE SOME SORT OF TRAFFIC CONTROL.
THE ECONOMIC IMPACT ON BAYTOWN, I DON'T SEE A POSITIVE ECONOMIC IMPACT.
WE NEED TO FOCUS ON SINGLE HOUSING, SINGLE FAMILY HOUSING, NOT APARTMENT BUILDINGS.
WE NEED TO FOCUS ON, ON AREAS THAT WE HAVE RECREATION FOR OUR FAMILIES IN THIS AREA.
AS MOST OF YOU KNOW, THIS IS A GROWING AREA AND IT, IT HAS NICE NEIGHBORHOODS.
SO WHY CAN'T WE LOOK AT SOMETHING THAT WILL BENEFIT THOSE, THESE PEOPLE THAT ARE ALREADY HERE.
UM, AND BASICALLY THAT'S PRETTY MUCH ALL I HAVE AND I APPRECIATE YOU LETTING ME SPEAK.
I APPRECIATE, UH, YOU, YOU CALLING IN AND, UH, HOLD ON.
WHO I HAVE SOMEONE ELSE ON THE LINE IS THAT FEEDBACK? I THINK IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF GOOD.
SO I DO APPRECIATE YOU HAD A SERIES OF QUESTIONS.
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DOWN AS MANY AS I CAN.UM, A LOT OF THE QUESTIONS ARE FOR THE DEVELOPER.
UM, HOW YOU CHOOSE YOUR TIME AND WHAT YOU ASK.
UH, YOU, I THINK YOU ASKED ABOUT 10 QUESTIONS, SO I DON'T THINK WE'LL HAVE THE TIME TO ANSWER ALL THOSE, BUT I THINK WE CAN AT LEAST TRY TO ADDRESS SOME OF THOSE QUESTIONS WHEN THE DEVELOPER COMES TO SPEAK.
UM, I THINK ONE PARTICULAR OKAY.
WOULD BE, HAS THIS MATERIALS WOULD BE OBVIOUSLY A CONCERN.
UM, AND THEY COULD ADDRESS THAT ONE SPECIFICALLY.
UM, AND, UH, IS THERE ANY OTHER COMMENTS? YOU HAVE ABOUT 30 SECONDS OF TIME LEFT.
IF THERE'S ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS YOU'D LIKE TO MAKE.
I DO APPRECIATE YOU, YOU KNOW, UM, UH, AT LEAST TAKING THE TIME TO GO AND CALL IN.
UM, JUST AS JOHN SPOKE, THIS IS THE ENTRANCE.
I KNOW THIS IS A 9 1 1 ENTRANCE, BUT IF YOU PUT 9 1 1 IN YOUR GPS, IT'S GOING TO BRING YOU TO THAT ENTRANCE.
SO IT'S NOT GOING TO DEFER TRAFFIC TO INTERSTATE 10, EVEN THOUGH THAT'S AN ONLY AN EMERGENCY ENTRANCE.
SO I THINK THAT THAT IS, THAT'S KIND OF A, WE'RE STILL GONNA GET TRAFFIC THAT'S GONNA COME DOWN SHO LENDER, AND THEN IT'S GOING HAVE TO GO INTERSTATE 10, MAKE A U-TURN AND COME BACK UP.
I THINK THAT'S, DOES, JUST BECAUSE WE HAVE AN EMERGENCY ENTRANCE IS NOT GONNA SLOW TRAFFIC DOWN.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME, MA'AM.
AM I UNMUTED? YES, YOU ARE NOW.
YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES, THOMAS.
UH, UH, THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME GET UP AND SPEAK.
UM, AS MOST OF YOU MAY KNOW, I WAS A SIGNIFICANT OPPONENT OF THIS, UH, REZONING BACK LAST YEAR.
I SPOKE AGAINST IT AT THE NOVEMBER AND DECEMBER PLANNING AND ZONING MEETINGS AND, UH, NOW SIX MONTHS LATER, UM, I'M ACTUALLY IN FAVOR OF THIS.
UM, I REALLY APPRECIATE WHAT THE DEVELOPER HAS DONE TO IMPROVE THE PRODUCT.
UM, THEY'RE, THEY'VE REALLY ELEVATED IT, UH, WITH THE INCREASED MASONRY REQUIREMENTS.
UH, MOVING THE DETENTION TO THE EAST SIDE OF THE PROPERTY CREATES A SUBSTANTIAL BUFFER.
UM, AND, UH, ELIMINATING THE TRAFFIC ON SHO LANDER TO SOME DEGREE BY MAKING THAT A 9 1 1 GATE.
I THINK THAT THEY REALLY TOOK SOME OF THE COMMENTS THAT THEY RECEIVED TO HEART AND, YOU KNOW, REALLY CAME BACK WITH AN ELEVATED PRODUCT, WHICH WILL HELP, UH, YOU KNOW, KEEP OUT SOME OF THE UNWANTED BUSINESSES.
'CAUSE IT'LL DRIVE UP THE COST OF OWNING LAND THERE.
SO, UM, I, I AM IMPRESSED WITH, UH, WHAT THEY'VE DONE.
UH, THEY ALSO, YOU KNOW, THEY HELD THAT TOWN HALL MEETING ON MONDAY.
UH, THEY DIDN'T HAVE TO DO THAT.
SO I REALLY FEEL LIKE THEY'RE TRYING TO WORK THIS OUT IN THE INTEREST OF THE CITIZENS AND I APPRECIATE THAT.
BUT I DO STILL HAVE A COUPLE OF CONCERNS.
UM, THE I 10 AND SLANDER INTERSECTION RIGHT NOW, UM, THERE'S SOME DETERIORATION THAT'S ALREADY HAPPENING WITH THAT LITTLE SIDE GOOFY THEATER AND THE INTERSECTION, UH, THE RIGHT OF WAY.
UM, SO I REALLY WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE CITY COUNTY TDOT AND DEVELOPER KIND OF LOOKED AT AND SEE WHAT KIND OF, UH, OPPORTUNITIES THERE ARE TO IMPROVE THAT INTERSECTION, UH, WITH PEOPLE GOING TO THE GAS STATION FROM THE BUSINESS PARK AND TRYING TO TURN LEFT ON SLANDER TO GET BACK TO I 10.
UH, I SEE THAT BEING AN ISSUE LONG TERM AND THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED.
UM, THE OTHER THING IS WE'VE HEARD THE DEVELOPER MENTION STUFF, UH, ALONG THE FRONTAGE, SUCH AS LIKE A HOTEL.
UH, I DON'T THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD WANT TO SEE ALONG THE I 10 FRONTAGE RIGHT THERE, ESPECIALLY WITH THE CURRENT STATE OF THAT INTERSECTION.
UM, THEY'VE TALKED ABOUT, UH, BUSINESSES THAT THEY WOULD EXCLUDE FROM THE BUSINESS PARK THROUGH A DEED RESTRICTION.
MAYBE THAT'S SOMETHING THAT COULD BE CONSIDERED BEING ADDED.
UM, AND THEN THE LAST THING IS, YOU KNOW, WE SEE THESE PRETTY PICTURES AND THEY DON'T ALWAYS MATERIALIZE.
UH, WE REALLY NEED TO LOOK AT HOW WE GET THIS PRETTY PICTURE BECAUSE, UH, YOU KNOW, THEY PUT THOSE 39,000 SQUARE FOOT BUILDINGS UP THERE TO, UH, YOU KNOW, PAINT A PICTURE OF WHAT COULD BE THERE.
AND, YOU KNOW, IT COULD BE A MID-SIZE COMPANY'S HEADQUARTERS OR REGIONAL OFFICE FOR, UH, A HUGE CORPORATION.
BUT IF THOSE GUYS DON'T BITE AND YOU END UP WITH A 10,000 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING AND A BUNCH OF OUTSIDE STORAGE SPACE, THEN THAT'S A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT LOOK TO THAT AREA.
SO, YOU KNOW, HOW DO YOU MAKE THAT PICTURE BECOME REALITY? YOU KNOW, IS THERE A WAY TO REQUIRE A CERTAIN, UH, PERCENTAGE OF THE FRONTAGE ROAD BE BUILDING FRONTAGE OR, OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
UM, YOU KNOW, CAN, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO GO AHEAD AND MAKE YOUR, THAT'S WHERE I'M THINKING YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO GO AHEAD AND MAKE YOUR, YOUR LAST CLOSING COMMENT, UH, AS YOUR TIME IS UP.
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IS, I REALLY THINK THAT P AND Z AND CITY COUNCIL NEED TO LOOK AT THE ZONING CLASSIFICATIONS.YOU KNOW, THERE'S NOT ENOUGH, UH, GRANULARITY BETWEEN HEAVY INDUSTRIAL, LIGHT INDUSTRIAL AND GENERAL COMMERCIAL TO MAKE SOMETHING LIKE THIS WORK WITHOUT OTHER CONCERNS.
UH, AND THEN THE WAY THAT THE TRANSITION IS MADE FROM SOMETHING LIKE HEAVY INDUSTRIAL CHEVRON TOWARDS GARTH ROAD, I KNOW THERE'S BEEN TALK BEFORE ABOUT THAT ALL GOING LIGHT INDUSTRIAL.
UH, IT'S KIND OF PART OF THE FUTURE LAND USE PLAN.
I THINK THAT THERE NEEDS TO BE A DIFFERENT TYPE OF TRANSITION THAT HAPPENS THERE AND HOPEFULLY THIS TYPE OF A DEVELOPMENT SUPPORTS THAT.
I APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS AND CALL IN, UH, MR. PARENT.
AND I DO AGREE WITH YOU ON THE, UH, UH, ON THE CLASSIFICATION.
THERE'S, THIS IS A DIFFERENT, THE PROJECT ITSELF OBVIOUSLY IS NOT SOMETHING THAT FITS IN VERY WELL INTO AN ALLY OR GC.
IT'S SOMETHING KIND OF A IN BETWEEN KIND OF A LIGHT, LIGHT INDUSTRIAL.
BUT I DO APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.
WE'LL MOVE ON TO OUR NEXT, UH, CALLER.
IS, IS IT WITH L SCOTT WENDELL SCOTT.
PLEASE GO AHEAD AND STATE YOUR ADDRESS IF YOU DON'T MIND.
AND, UM, THEN YOU CAN BEGIN YOUR TIME.
I LIVE AT 81 11 MCDANIEL, WHICH IS JUST DOWN THE STREET FROM WHERE, UH, JOHN BRAZEL AND THEM LIVE IN JANICE.
AND THERE AGAIN, WHAT WE'RE STATING IS ON THIS ROAD ON SHO MM-HMM
THERE IS NO ROOM FOR, UH, UH, TO EXPAND IT OUT WITHOUT MAKING MORE FLOODING ON US AS IT IS.
I FLOODED DURING HARVEY MM-HMM
UH, AS IT IS, THERE'S NO ROOM TO GET OUT HALF OF THE TIME WHEN THESE FACTORIES ARE LETTING OUT.
THERE IS SO MUCH TRAFFIC ON SHOAL LAND RIGHT NOW THAT THERE'S DAYS THAT THERE'S TRAFFIC IS BACKED UP FROM ARCHER ROAD ALL THE WAY DOWN, ALMOST BACK HERE TO THE CHEVRON.
AND PEOPLE HAVE TO LET YOU GET OUT.
AND THERE'S BEEN A SEVERAL TIMES THAT I'VE NEARLY BEEN BROADSIDED TRYING TO GET OUT WHEN SOMEONE SAYS I CAN GET OUT AND GO, AND THEN ANOTHER CAR BE ZOOMING BY.
UH, THERE AGAIN THERE THIS, THIS ACCESS ON THIS ROAD HERE IS NO WAY THAT IT CAN HANDLE ANY WAREHOUSES BEING BUILT FOR THE TRAFFIC AND EVERYTHING.
CAN YOU PAUSE THIS TIME REAL QUICK? I WANT TO, DAN IS POINTING IT OUT.
MR. SCOTT, IF YOU DON'T MIND, GOT OVER SQUARE FEET, THE STORAGE DOWN ON BY THOMPSON ROAD DOWN IN THERE THAT THESE, THEY'RE VACANT MR. SCOTT.
THEY'RE NOT BEING UTILIZED AT ALL.
MR. SCOTT, CAN YOU HEAR ME? CAN YOU HEAR ME? I CAN HEAR YOU.
UM, THERE'S A FEW PEOPLE WHO, WHO'VE KIND OF EXPRESSED THE SAME COMMENT.
I WANNA MAKE SURE I, I WANT SOME CLARIFICATION FIRST BECAUSE WE KEEP TALKING ABOUT TRAFFIC ON SLANDER.
UM, AND I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT Y'ALL DID HEAR THAT IN THE SITE PLAN THAT WAS AT LEAST PRESENTED.
THE DEVELOPER HASN'T SPOKEN YET.
SO THE ACCESS ROAD, THAT WAS ONCE I THINK IN MAYBE THE PREVIOUS SITE PLAN.
IT'S NOW BASICALLY IT'S CLOSED OFF.
THE ONLY PURPOSE OF THE, UH, SLANDER 9 1 1 ACCESS BREAKAWAY GATE WOULD BE IF OUR FIRE OR EMS OR POLICE OR SOMETHING OF THAT MAGNITUDE OF FIRST RESPONDER ACTIVITY WOULD HAVE TO TAKE PLACE.
THEY WOULD HAVE EITHER THE NOX BOX OR BREAK THROUGH THE GATE, UH, IF THEY HAD TO GO AND RESPOND.
SO I KEEP CONTINUING TO HEAR THE ACCESS TO SLANDER, AND I THINK I'M JUST, I I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S, THAT, THAT YOU HAVE THE INFORMATION THAT THERE IS NO, THERE IS NO, UH, ORDINARY DAY TO DAY, DAY-TO-DAY ACCESS FROM THIS, THIS SITE TO SHO ITSELF.
THE TRAFFIC THAT EXISTS THERE EXISTS THERE REGARDLESS OF THIS PROJECT OR NOT.
SO I JUST WANTED, I WANTED TO KIND OF JUST PAUSE AND CORRECT THAT.
'CAUSE, 'CAUSE, UM, I KEEP HEARING SOMETHING AND, AND, AND IT'S, IT'S INCORRECT.
SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU HAVE THE RIGHT INFORMATION THAT THERE IS NOT ACCESS OKAY.
SO IF YOU MAY PROCEED AT THIS POINT, I PAUSED YOUR TIME AND YOU MAY CONTINUE, BUT THANK YOU.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENT SO FAR.
UH, ALSO THE BUILDING, UH, TO ME, THE BUILD UP OVER THERE DOES, UH, FOR THE, FOR WAREHOUSE, YOU WOULD HAVE TO RAISE THE ELEVATION OF THAT LAND OVER THERE.
UH, THAT WOULD PUSH MORE WATER BACK UNLESS YOU'RE GONNA FIGURE OUT SOME WAY TO, UH, BIG DIG, BIGGER DITCHES OR WHATEVER, UH, WE'RE STILL GONNA FLOOD.
SO I WANNA MAKE, UH, A POSITIVE NOTE ON THAT, THAT, UH, TO BUILD OVER THERE FOR THAT AMOUNT OF SPACE AND EVERYTHING, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO RAISE THE ELEVATION OVER THERE
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TREMENDOUSLY.AND THAT'S GONNA PUSH MORE WATER TOWARDS US AND MORE THAN WE CAN HANDLE AT THIS POINT.
AND THAT'S BASICALLY, THAT'S, THAT'S ALL I GOT TO SAY.
I JUST DON'T THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA.
WE NEED, UH, MORE HOUSING, MORE, UH, FAMILY UNITS THAT'S BEEN STATED.
THERE'S SEVERAL, YOU KNOW, THE COMMUNITIES HERE ARE GROWING AND NEED THAT HERE IN BAYTOWN, AND WE DON'T HAVE IT LIKE WE NEED IT.
BUT I'LL, I'LL RECEDE MY TIME NOW, UH, AND CLOSE WITH THAT REMARKS THERE.
AND THANK YOU FOR LISTENING TO ME.
I, I DO APPRECIATE YOUR TIME, UH, TO CALL IN, UH, AND VOICE YOUR, YOUR INPUT.
I THINK THIS IS OUR LAST CALL IN WOULD BE, UH, MANUEL, IS IT FOLLOWED THEIRS? YES, SIR.
CAN YOU HEAR ME? CAN HEAR ME OKAY? YES, SIR.
STATE, STATE, UH, YOUR ADDRESS PLEASE.
WE LIVE AT, UH, 73 20 EAST FREEWAY.
IT'D BE THE NEIGHBORING, UH, PROPERTY ADJACENT TO THE SITE DEVELOPMENT.
MY, MY PARENTS OWN THE, THE VALTECH CONSTRUCTION WITH THE OTHER, UH, EIGHT ACRES RIGHT ALONG.
I'M FAMILIAR AS, UH, A POINT WAS BROADENED UP IN THE LAST CONVERSATION THAT, UH, PUTTING THOSE BUILDINGS, UH, AS A, AS A CONSTRUCTION MANAGER, YES, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO RAISE, UH, THE SIGNIFICANT ELEVATION OF THOSE, UH, THE ELEVATION OF THOSE BUILDINGS, WHICH IS GONNA EITHER THROW WATER TOWARD THE DETENTION POND AND THOSE DETENTION POND WILL HAVE TO BE CONNECTED EITHER TO THE DITCH LINE OR TO THE, THE SW LAKE THAT IS BEHIND IN THE 50 ACRES.
UM, THE ONLY CON THE CONCERNS THAT WE HAVE IS WHILE RAISING THE ELEVATION, EVEN IF IT, IT DOES FLOW TO THE SITE, UH, THE SITE, UM, DETENTION PONDS, YOU WE'RE STILL GONNA HAVE ACCUMULATION WATER ON OUR SIDE OF OUR PROPERTY.
AND LUCKILY WITH HARVEY, WE DIDN'T GET ANY WATER BECAUSE WE ARE ABOUT THREE FEET ABOVE THE ROAD ELEVATION.
BUT AGAIN, WITH THOSE, UH, WAREHOUSES, THE AMOUNT OF WA UH, RAINFALL, YOU CAN DO THE MATH, YOUR ENGINEERS CAN'T DO THE MATH.
UM, THE OTHER CONCERN THAT WE HAVE IS WHAT KIND OF WATER AND, UH, UH, SEWAGE IS GONNA BE CONNECTED BECAUSE IT WAS, I THINK THERE'S A POINT AT THAT CORNER GAS STATION WHERE THERE WAS SUPPOSED TO BE FUTURE DEVELOPMENT FOR, FOR A, UH, TIE IN POINT.
AND WE, WHERE WE HAVE A WELL SYSTEM AND WE, WE WANTED TO CONNECT TO THE, THE SEWAGE AND, AND THE PUBLIC WATER.
I DIDN'T KNOW IF THAT WAS GONNA BE PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT ONCE THE SITE DEVELOPER GETS EVERYTHING APPROVED OR IF Y'ALL SWITCH IT THAT Y'ALL GONNA RUN PUBLIC AND WELL ON AND PUBLIC SWITCH TO THAT AREA.
UM, ONE OTHER CONCERN THAT I HAVE IS, UH, YES, THEY HAVE A A POINT ABOUT THE, THE SHO TRAFFIC.
AND YES, THE SITE HAS MODIFIED THE EXIT OR THE EXIT, BUT THEY'RE STILL AT, UM, FIVE 30 IN THE MORNING.
I MEAN, SHO I 10 IS BACKED UP ALL THE WAY TO NORTH MAIN.
WHENEVER THE TURN, WHENEVER THE ECONOMY GETS BACK AND RUNNING, YOU HAVE ALL THAT TRAFFIC FLOW.
'CAUSE THE PEOPLE ENTERING TO THE PLANT MM-HMM
AT THE 18 WHEELERS, YOU, YOU KNOW, THE, YOU KNOW, THE LOGISTICS NORTH MAIN SHOULD ADD, UH, EITHER A U-TURN, UH, IF THEY SAW CUT U-TURN THAT AREA.
THAT WAY IF PEOPLE DO MISS THE EXIT, THEY CAN COME BACK AND HAVE A FREE FLOWING, UH, TRAFFIC FLOW.
BUT THAT'S, THAT'S THE CITY'S, UH, BUDGET AND, AND THEIR, THEIR CONCERNS.
BUT OTHER THAN THAT, THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE.
UM, IF THEY CAN WIDEN UP THE DISH, THE DITCHES TO HELP ALLEVIATE SOME OF THE WATER FLOW AND EITHER CHANGE FROM, UM, I THINK THE STANDARD IS 24 FOR THE CULVERTS, IF THEY DO 36, THAT WOULD PROBABLY ALLEVIATE SOME OF THE WATER, THE WATER, UH, FLOW AS WELL.
BUT OTHER THAN THAT, THAT'S MY CONCLUDING ARGUMENT.
A COUPLE THINGS I WANNA MAKE SURE, SO THE U-TURNS THAT, THAT WOULD NOT BE THE CITY THAT WOULD BE TDOT.
UH, IF THERE'S THE DITCHES THAT ARE, THAT EITHER BORDER SLANDER, UM, THOSE WOULD BE HARRIS COUNTY RESPONSIBILITY, ANYTHING THAT WOULD BE, UH, DITCHES ALONG THE FRONTAGE, I'M ASSUMING IS EITHER TDOT AND OR THE CITY OF BAY TOWNS.
BUT JUST SO WE, WE, WE HAVE ALL THE FACTS IN FRONT OF US.
UH, ALL THOSE THAT HAVE CALLED IN NOW, WE HAVE, I BELIEVE WE HAVE FOUR PEOPLE THAT HAVE SIGNED UP AND HERE AND ARE HERE IN PERSON.
UM, WITH THAT, UH, I GUESS WE'LL JUST START WITH GREG THOMPSON.
IS IT THOMPSON? THOMPSON? THOMPSON.
NO P ALTHOUGH IT SOUNDS LIKE IT, BUT GOOD EVENING.
UH, I'M PRESIDENT OF RATCLIFFE DEVELOPMENT.
MY ADDRESS IS 39 0 2 LEE STREET, ALEXANDRIA, LOUISIANA.
UM, MR. MAYOR, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
IS MY FATHER'S OFTEN FOND OF SAYING WE WERE NOT WEALTHY ENOUGH TO DROP THE P SO WE, WE ACTUALLY HAVE A P IN, IN IN OUR NAME.
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OUR COMPANY, RADCLIFFE DEVELOPMENT, IS A FAMILY OWNED, UH, THIRD GENERATION MANAGED COMPANY WITH OFFICES IN LOUISIANA AND TEXAS.WE'VE GOT A LONG HISTORY OF, UH, VERY PRODUCTIVE COMMERCIAL REAL ESTATE DEVELOPMENT AND COMMERCIAL CONSTRUCTION ACTIVITIES.
UH, WE DO MULTIPLE PROJECTS, UH, IN LOUISIANA AND TEXAS AS FAR NORTH AS MINNESOTA.
UM, OFTENTIMES EVERY PROJECT THAT WE DO, WHETHER IT'S LARGE OR SMALL, WE HAVE THE SAME CONCERNS THAT I'VE HEARD STAFF BRING INTO THE EQUATION.
AND THE SAME CONCERNS THAT I HEAR YOUR LOCAL CITIZENS', UH, VOICE, UH, TRAFFIC, STORMWATER RUNOFF, UH, PROPERTY VALUES, AESTHETICS.
UM, WHAT WE HAVE FIND, WHAT WE HAVE FOUND IS OUR BUSINESS MODEL, UH, TO CREATE A ACCESSIBLE BUSINESS PARK THAT COMPANIES CAN LOCATE IN CLOSE PROXIMITY TO THEIR PRIMARY CUSTOMER.
THAT BEING, UH, THE LOCAL PETROCHEMICAL REFINERIES, UH, WHAT WE HAVE FOUND OFTENTIMES IS THAT IF WE CAN PRODUCE THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WE NEED TO PRODUCE AND MAKE THESE TYPES OF BUSINESS PARKS AVAILABLE, THERE ARE CURRENTLY EXISTING CUSTOMERS JOBS TAX BASE THAT ARE LOCATING OUTSIDE OF THE JURISDICTION AND OUTSIDE OF, OF THE CONTROL OF, OF LOCAL CITY ORDINANCES.
AND, AND WE LIKE TO AFFORD THOSE ENTITIES THE OPPORTUNITY TO LOCATE IN A VERY ATTRACTIVE BUSINESS PARK THAT'S WELL MANAGED AND WELL MAINTAINED AND HAS THE APPROPRIATE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT'S DESIGNED TO ADDRESS THE COMMENTS THAT WE'VE HEARD TODAY.
OFTENTIMES WE WILL HAVE A RUDIMENTARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN THAT WE APPROACH THE CITY WITH.
WE HEAR PUBLIC COMMENTS, WE HEAR CITY STAFF'S COMMENTS, WE COME BACK, WE REDESIGN THAT BUSINESS PLAN BASED ON WHATEVER THE ISSUE IS THAT NEEDS TO BE RESOLVED.
AND IN THIS CASE, THAT'S WHAT WE'VE DONE WITH GATEWAY 10.
UM, I THINK THAT ONCE THIS PROJECT IS COMPLETE, YOU WILL FIND THAT THE APPROPRIATELY DESIGNED STORMWATER RETENTION PONDS WILL NOT ONLY HANDLE THE STORMWATER RUNOFF THAT'S CREATED IN THIS PARK, BUT IT WILL ALSO MITIGATE ANY EXISTING CONDITIONS WITH UNCONTROLLED STORMWATER RUNOFF THAT, THAT, THAT HAPPEN ON A VACANT PIECE OF LAND.
UH, OBVIOUSLY TRAFFIC IS A CONCERN TO ADDRESS THOSE CONCERNS AND MY PARTNER, MR. DOVI, WILL SPEAK IN GREATER DETAIL ABOUT THE TECHNICAL ASPECT OF THAT.
BUT WE ARE SENSITIVE TO THE ISSUES THAT WERE ADDRESSED AND OUR GOAL IS TO CREATE A BUSINESS PARK WHERE COMPANIES CAN LOCATE IN A CONTROLLED ENVIRONMENT AND HAVE PROTECTED LONG-TERM VALUE FOR THEIR REAL ESTATE INVESTMENTS.
I DO HAVE SOME QUESTIONS AND MAY AND MAYBE SOMEONE ELSE ON YOUR TEAM COULD ANSWER, BUT, BUT SINCE WE ARE TALKING ABOUT FLOODING AND FLOODING IS ALWAYS A CONCERN AT ANY TIME THERE'S DEVELOPMENT FIRST.
IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT GOES THERE.
IT COULD BE A GROCERY STORE, IT COULD BE, UH, LOUIS VUITTON.
IF THERE'S A PARKING LOT AND THERE'S, AND THERE'S CONCRETE, THERE'S THERE'S GONNA BE, UH, AN ISSUE AS FAR AS WITH WITH WITH TRYING TO MITIGATE THAT, ANY DEVELOPMENT.
SO WITH THAT IS YOU WOULD HAVE TO MEET, I THINK THE NEW AFTER HARVEY, THE NEW, UH, HARRIS COUNTY FLOOD SANDERS IS 18%.
UH, CAN SOMEONE ANSWER THAT? IT DON'T HAVE TO BE YOU, BUT IT COULD BE ANYONE WHO CAN ANSWER THE, THE FLOODING.
'CAUSE IT WENT FROM 15 TO 18 IS MY UNDERSTANDING.
IS THAT CORRECT? THAT THAT IS CORRECT.
UH, WE ARE, WE'VE HAD A, A LICENSED PROFESSIONAL ENGINEER, UH, DO OUR GRADING AS WELL AS OUR DETENTION.
AND SO THERE IS, UH, AMPLE, UH, AMPLE STORMWATER DETENTION ON THE SITE.
THERE'S ABOUT SEVEN AND A HALF ACRES RIGHT NOW.
WE HAVE, WE'VE DONE THE TOPOGRAPHICAL SURVEYS, UH, EVERYTHING THAT WE NEED TO, TO DO TO ENSURE THAT WE'RE IN COMPLIANCE WITH HARRIS COUNTY FLEET.
THOSE ARE, THOSE ARE NEW NUMBERS OBVIOUSLY POST HARVEY.
AND SO, UM, POINT BEING THAT THEY COULDN'T IT, I THINK THAT MAYBE IT WOULD HELP NOT JUST YOUR PROJECT, BUT IT COULD HELP THE AREA.
IF MEMORY SERVES ME CORRECTLY, SHO LAND ROAD IS PROBABLY HIGHER THAN ALL THE, IS HIGH.
IT'S AT A HIGHER GRADE THAN ALL THE, OF THE RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES ALONG IT, LIKE A LOT OF THE COUNTY ROADS.
AND SO ONCE THE DITCH IS FILLED, IT JUST, THE ROAD IS JUST BECOMES A, A DAM AND A BARRIER TO, TO FOR FLOW.
BUT I DON'T KNOW, I DON'T LIVE ON SHAW ANDERSON.
I DON'T KNOW IT LIKE OUR CITIZENS.
BUT, UH, IF MEMORY, CERTAINLY RIGHT.
IT MIGHT, I'M NOT A PROFESSIONAL ENGINEER, BUT FROM, FROM SPEAKING WITH OUR CIVIL ON THE PROJECT THAT THE ELEVATION OF IT, WE HAVE WIDER SHALLOWER PONDS BECAUSE OF THE EL IT'S A LOWER ELEVATION IN GENERAL IN THAT AREA.
AND SO WE'VE, THE AREA COVERAGE IS GREATER MM-HMM
SO WE'RE, WE HAVE MET THE HARRIS COUNTY FLOOD CONTROL DISTRICT AND IT'S ALSO MY UNDERSTANDING, I THINK WITH, WITH THE ONE GENTLEMAN WHO HAS A BUSINESS, UH, ADJACENT TO YOUR PROPERTY.
UM, TALK LOUDER WHAT MIKE DIDN'T SHOW ON HIM TOO.
SO ALSO MY UNDERSTANDING IT WOULD BE ILLEGAL AND PRETTY MUCH ANY FLOOD PLAN FOR YOU TO GO AND DIRECT WATER
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AWAY FROM YOUR PROPERTY ONTO A, AN ADJACENT PROPERTY.IS THAT CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT.
SO IT'D HAVE TO GO AND BE APPROVED BY HARRIS COUNTY FLOOD CONTROL OR HARRIS COUNTY FLOOD PLAN ADMINISTRATOR, IS THAT CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT.
THOSE ARE JUST SOME GENERAL QUESTIONS I HAD, JUST MAKE SURE WE HAVE SOME FACTS OUT THERE.
UM, MAYOR, IF I, IF I COULD COMMENT, MAKE ONE COMMENT.
OFTENTIMES IN THE PAST, WHAT WE HAVE SEEN IS WHEN YOU HAVE A LARGE TRACT OF LAND LIKE THIS THAT'S UNDEVELOPED, THAT STORMWATER RUNOFF IS NOT CONTROLLED.
UM, WE HAVE HAD A COUPLE OF OCCASIONS WHERE WE'VE ACTUALLY GONE TO GREAT LENGTHS TO REDIRECT STORMWATER RUNOFF TO KEEP IT AWAY FROM RESIDENTIAL AREAS THAT WERE PREVIOUSLY FLOODING BECAUSE OF UNCONTROLLED STORMWATER RUNOFF THAT ULTIMATELY ENDS UP COMING FROM THE INTERSTATE.
AND I SUSPECT THAT IN THIS CASE THAT'S, THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN.
WE'VE, WE'VE GOT ADEQUATELY DESIGNED STORMWATER RETENTION PONDS THAT ARE STRATEGICALLY LOCATED FOR THAT.
DAVID, IS THAT WHAT IT SAYS? DOCH DOCH.
WELL, I JUST, IT WAS ABBREVIATED HERE.
AND, UH, MR. MAYOR, I'M GOING TO TAKE MR. WILSON AND MR. LEAPER'S TIME, UH, AS PART OF MY, I WAS WONDER OF RON.
MR. LE WAS, HE'S GONNA HAVE TO SPEAK.
TOTAL OF NINE MINUTES, MAYOR, HOWEVER, OKAY.
GOOD, GOOD EVENING, MR. MAYOR, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, MY NAME IS RON DOVI, UH, 43 0 6 YOAKUM BOULEVARD, UH, HOUSTON, TEXAS 7 7 0 0 6.
I AM A EMPLOYEE OF RADCLIFFE DEVELOPMENT AND THE, THE REPRESENTATIVE HERE IN HOUSTON.
UH, THANK YOU FOR YOUR, YOUR TIME THIS EVENING.
UM, YOU KNOW, I HAD SOME COMMENTS PREPARED ABOUT THE, THE DEVELOPMENT, BUT I THINK IN ORDER, UH, TO AVOID REDUNDANCY WITH MS. FOSTER AND MR. THOMPSON HAD ALREADY COVERED, I WOULD LIKE TO SPEND MY TIME ADDRESSING THE QUESTIONS YEAH.
THAT HAVE BEEN BROUGHT UP BECAUSE I THINK A LOT OF THE ISSUES THAT ARE STILL FLOATING OUT, THERE ARE ITEMS THAT WE, WE TOOK INTO CONSIDERATION AFTER HEARING EVERYONE'S PERSPECTIVE BACK IN DECEMBER, UH, AND HAVE ADDRESSED.
AND SOME OF THEM ARE, UH, IN, IN OUR OPINION FROM OUR EXPERIENCE OF THESE TYPES OF PARKS, UH, NOT NECESSARILY AN ISSUE.
UM, I THINK WE JUST, UH, DISCUSSED THE, UH, THE DETENTION AND THE GRADING AND THE ENGINEERING.
ANYTHING THAT WE DO ON THIS SITE WILL BE DONE BY A PROFESSIONAL ENGINEER AND, YOU KNOW, INSPECTED AND APPROVED BY MULTIPLE HARRIS COUNTY FLIGHT CONTROL.
THE CITY OF BAY TOWN'S ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT.
UM, UH, I HEAR A LOT OF COMMENTS ABOUT SEMI TRUCKS.
UH, YOU KNOW, THIS IS NOT, WE'RE NOT BUILDING A BIG INDUSTRIAL HUB.
AND SO PART OF OUR BUSINESS MODEL, YOU KNOW, THE, WHAT THE LADY MENTIONED WAS VERY CORRECT.
THERE IS A LOT OF SQUARE FOOTAGE BEING BUILT IN BAYTOWN RIGHT NOW, BUT THEY'RE BIG BUILDINGS.
WE'RE LOOKING TO BUILD SMALL BUILDINGS, UM, SMALL BUILDINGS THAT ARE NOT SERVED BY SEMI TRUCKS.
THEY'RE, THEY'RE SERVED BY CONSTRUCTION, YOU KNOW, HEAVY DUTY PICKUP TRUCKS OR BOX TRUCKS.
UM, MOST OF THEIR WORK IS GOING ON INSIDE THE PLANTS.
IT IS NOT GOING ON NECESSARILY IN THE BUILDINGS.
THEY JUST NEED AN OFFICE, SOME WAREHOUSE SPACE, SOME YARD SPACE, UH, TO PUT, TO PUT THEIR EQUIPMENT WHEN THEY'RE NOT, YOU KNOW, BEING UTILIZED INSIDE THE PLANTS.
UM, SO, UH, IN A WAY THAT I KNOW WE'VE, WE'VE, WE'VE SPOKEN WITH MANY OF YOU ABOUT THE DEVELOPERS HAVE LOOKED AT TO DO THIS, TO DO THIS, UH, SITE AS A LARGE INDUSTRIAL, UH, WAREHOUSE, BUT BECAUSE OF THERE'S A PIPELINE EASEMENT RUNNING DIRECTLY THROUGH IT AND WHERE YOU WOULD NEED A CURB CUT, YOU CANNOT MAKE THE SITE WORK FOR A LARGE INDUSTRIAL, UM, HUB LIKE YOU'RE SEEING AT THOMPSON 10, OR EVEN TO SOME EXTENT DOWN IN CEDAR PORT.
AND SO IT LENDS ITSELF NICELY TO THIS BUSINESS PART CONCEPT WHERE WE CAN BUILD RESPONSIBLY OVER A COUPLE YEARS, UH, AND DEVELOP IT, UM, HAZARDOUS MATERIALS.
UH, I WILL, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE PART OF, PART OF, UH, ELIMINATING NOXIOUS USES AS PART OF THIS DEVELOPMENT.
WE HAVE, UH, COMMITTED AND HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH CITY STAFF TO DEVELOP, UH, DEED RESTRICTIONS AND RESTRICTIVE COVENANTS THAT ONCE WE HAVE, UH, A ZONING APPROVAL, WE WILL FILE WITH A PROPERTY AND PERPETUITY.
AND, UH, I WOULD DEFER IF THERE'S ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS ABOUT THOSE PROHIBITED USES, I'LL DEFER THAT TO OUR, OUR LAND USE ATTORNEY, MR. REED WILSON.
BUT, BUT BASICALLY WE'RE PROTECTING OUR VALUE AND OUR VALUE OF OUR INVESTORS BY NOT ALLOWING HAZMAT AND A LOT OF THESE MORE, YOU KNOW, STUFF THAT'S HAZARDOUS TO THE, THE ADJACENT PROPERTIES.
WE, WE DO NOT WISH TO HAVE THAT IN THE PROPERTY EITHER.
AND SO WE CAN, UH, WE CAN GET, GET DETAIL ON THAT IF, IF ANYONE'S INTERESTED IN, IN IT.
UM, UH, YOU KNOW, THE PRETTY PICTURE COMMENTS THAT, YOU KNOW, THE FOOTPRINT OF THE PARK, WHERE THE BUILDINGS ARE, WHERE THEY LAY OUT.
YOU KNOW, I CAN'T PREDICT THAT RIGHT NOW, BUT WHAT I CAN PREDICT IS, AND TELL YOU THAT THROUGH OUR RESTRICTIVE COVENANTS WE HAVE PUT INTO IT ARCHITECTURAL STANDARDS THAT GO ABOVE AND BEYOND WHAT IS CURRENTLY EXISTING IN THE CITY CODE.
100% MASONRY ALONG THE FRONTAGE.
UM, YOU KNOW, SO, AND A PERCENTAGE OF MASONRY ALONG THE SIDES OF THE BUILDINGS AS WELL.
AND SO, WHILE YOU KNOW, WHAT YOU SEE UP THERE, THE SIZE,
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THE SHAPE, THE POSITION OF THE BUILDINGS MAY CHANGE WHO IS INSIDE THEM USING THEM, NOT THAT UNDER, THAT ARE NOT IN VIOLATION OF THE RESTRICTIONS.YOU KNOW, WE WILL MAINTAIN AN ARCHITECTURAL CHARACTER TO ALL THESE BUILDINGS, UH, REGARDLESS OF WHO IS INSIDE THEM OR WHERE THEY'RE PLACED, UM, ON THE PROPERTY.
UH, YOU KNOW, AND WE'RE HAPPY TO WORK WITH, WITH THE CITY AND ANYONE ON, ON WHAT, WHAT THE FRONTAGE LOOKS LIKE.
'CAUSE REALLY WE WE'RE JUST TRYING TO ENTITLE AND DEVELOP LAND SO WE HAVE FLEXIBILITY WE CAN BUILD FROM THE BACK TO THE FRONT AND KEEP THAT I 10 FRONTAGE AND HOPEFULLY THAT, YOU KNOW, WE GET SOME GOOD PROSPECTS FOR, FOR THAT, UM, PART EVENTUALLY.
UM, YOU KNOW, THE OTHER PART THAT I DON'T THINK I'VE HEARD MENTION IS THAT WE ARE DEDICATING 20, UH, 20 FEET RIGHT OF WAY TO THE CITY, UH, ON ALONG SHO LANDER.
UH, SO FOR IF THERE IS FUTURE EXPANSION, THAT THAT RIGHT OF WAY DOES EXIST, UH, AT NO COST TO THE CITY.
AND, UH, I THINK, YOU KNOW, THAT IS, THAT IS THE MOST OF THE QUESTIONS I HEARD FROM THE CALLERS.
IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT, UH, YOU THINK I MIGHT'VE MISSED, I'D BE HAPPY TO ADDRESS.
UH, BUT I WOULD CLOSE WITH THANK YOU FOR YOUR, YOUR CONSIDERATION, UM, AND YOUR TIME TONIGHT REGARDING OUR, OUR ZONING REQUEST.
IS IT SITES FOR, ARE THEY, IS IT FOR SALE PRODUCT OR FOR LEASE PRODUCT OR A MIXTURE? IT'S A MIXTURE.
WE, WE WILL DO SOME, SOME, SOME SPEC BUILDING.
WE DON'T LIKE TO OUT BUILD OUR MARKET, BUT WE'LL DO ONE OR TWO SPEC BUILDINGS.
UH, WE WILL HAVE LOTS FOR SALE AND OR OPEN FOR BUILD TO SUIT.
SO BASICALLY WE JUST, WE'LL DO A LARGE PRELIMINARY PLOT AND THEN AS PEOPLE COME IN WE CAN, WE CAN PLAY GEOMETRY AS WE GO.
DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTION FOR RON? YES.
UM, SO THE RIGHT OF WAY THAT YOU'RE DEDICATING TO THE CITY, IS THAT CORRECT? BECAUSE SLANDER IS OWNED AND MAINTAINED BY HARRIS COUNTY.
MAYBE IT'S, MAYBE IT GOES TO THE COUNTY THEN.
BECAUSE AM I RIGHT? IT WOULDN'T MAKE SENSE FOR THE CITY TO HAVE THAT 'CAUSE WE WOULDN'T EXPAND SHE LAND ROAD.
IT'S A COUNTY ROAD, YOU'RE CORRECT.
WELL, WE COULD HAVE POSSIBLY A PARTNERSHIP WITH THEM SINCE, WELL, IT COULD BE A PARTNERSHIP THAT IS ONE OPTION, BUT IT'S THEIR ROAD.
SO, BUT, BUT YES, UH, THE RIGHT OF WAY, REGARDLESS OF IT'S THE CITY OF BAYTOWN OR, OR WHOEVER MM-HMM
UM, IS CERTAINLY A GOOD OFFERING.
UM, IF, IF IT'S WIDENING, UM, I'M NOT SURE WHERE IT STANDS, IF, IF ANY, IT COULD BE IN THE PLANS FOR HARRIS COUNTY.
UH, CERTAINLY I WOULD THINK AS, AS GROWTH OCCURS MM-HMM
HOWEVER, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE TRAFFIC THERE, UH, YOU WIDEN IT, NOW YOU HAVE TWO LANES OF TRAFFIC EACH WAY.
SO, UH, IT JUST, IT MAY, IT MAY HELP WITH SOME TRAFFIC FLOW, BUT IT DOES NOT GET RID OF TRAFFIC.
UM, AND MINE IS, UH, WITH THE 9 1 1 GATE.
UM, AND, AND I KNOW THIS IS NOT, THE RENDERING MAY NOT BE TRUE TO SCALE OR ANYTHING, BUT I NOTICED THAT, UH, AND I'M, I'M NOT FAMILIAR MM-HMM
VERY MUCH WITH THE 9 1 1 X EXIT AND ENTRANCE GATES, BUT THERE SEEMS TO BE SOME OPENING SOME GAPS ON THE SIDE.
SO ARE THERE PLANS TO PUT A GATE ALL AROUND OR AT LEAST DOWN SLANDER OR, UM, HOW IS THAT GATE GOING TO BE? I'M KIND OF FAMILIAR WITH THIS TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT ONLY BECAUSE, UM, THE, UM, BUDWEISER OFF OF I 10 AND SHO LANDER IS RIGHT NEXT TO, UM, A NEIGHBORHOOD AND, AND IT HAS A VERY SIMILAR ROAD WHERE OKAY.
AND SO THEY ENDED UP PUTTING A WROUGHT IRON GATE ALL, ALL DOWN THAT WAY.
THAT STREET OR THAT ROAD, I WOULD HAVE TO GET, I I I, I DO NOT KNOW THE ANSWER FOR YOU ON THAT RIGHT NOW.
I MEAN, I KNOW THAT IT WILL BLOCK THE WHOLE, THE WHOLE SECTION OFF THERE, BUT I COULD, I WOULD HAVE TO SPEAK WITH OUR, OUR ENGINEER ON THAT AND, AND GET AN ANSWER TO YOU ON THAT.
IF IT'S AN EMERGENCY GATE, IT USUALLY IS A GATE THAT CLOSES, HAS A NOX POCKETS ASSOCIATED WITH IT.
ONLY THE FIRE DEPARTMENT CAN GET IN AND OUT OF I'M YEAH, I'M SURE IT'S, IT, OBVIOUSLY IT'S EITHER METAL OR WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE, BUT I'M SURE THERE'S A KNX BOX, BUT Y Y'ALL DESCRIBED IT AT ONE TIME AND ALSO IT'S BREAKAWAY.
I MEAN, IF THEY NEEDED TO GO THROUGH YEAH, THEY COULD.
I DON'T THINK IT'S THE, THE, THE PUNY LOOKING, I THINK THAT'S JUST SO THE ARCHITECT THAT FOR ME, SO I, I DIDN'T THINK, BUT I WAS JUST, AND ONE MORE QUESTION, MAYOR, AND, UH, I'M NOT TOO FAMILIAR WITH THE DRAINAGE IN THE MM-HMM
BUT SINCE Y'ALL WERE, UM, GIVING YOU KNOW, THE RIGHT OF WAY TO IT AND SURE.
I, I DON'T KNOW WHERE THERE'S AN OUTFALL.
UM, I KNOW THERE'S DITCHES AND CULVERTS OUT THERE, UM, BUT IF THERE IS SOME SORT OF OUTLET OR SOMETHING MM-HMM
IF WE'RE PROVIDING THE RIGHT OF WAY, WOULD WE BE, WOULD WE HAVE THE CAPABILITY TO PUT CURBING, UM, AND HAVE THE INLETS ON THERE TO ALLOW FOR ADDITIONAL DRAINAGE? SO THAT'S MY OTHER QUESTION IS I I DO KNOW THE OUTFALL, IT COMES SOUTH OF THE SHO LANDER PROPERTY MM-HMM
ON, ON, ON THE WEST SIDE, AND THEN IT CROSSES UNDERNEATH SHO LANDER AND GOES, UH, I'M SURE IT HAS TO GO TOWARDS YOU TO BUY, YOU GOES TO THE YEAH, IT GOES TO THE EAST.
SO, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, OUR, OUR
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SITE IS, IS SELF-CONTAINED, SO WHATEVER THAT OUTFLOW RATE IS, OUR PONDS ARE, ARE DESIGNED, UH, TO, TO MANAGE THAT RATE OF OUTFLOW.SO, BUT THERE'S A POSSIBILITY WHERE WE COULD ADD ADDITIONAL INLETS.
I MEAN, IF I WOULD HAVE TO NO, I'M LOOKING AT BOTH OF Y'ALL.
CAN YOU GIVE ME A LITTLE BIT MORE? WELL, I, I'M THINKING OF WHAT WE DID WITH, UM, HUGGINS RICK, WHERE WE EXPANDED THE INLETS BECAUSE IT WOULD FLOOD AND SO WE JUST MADE THEM BIGGER.
SO, UM, CURRENTLY CYLINDERS ROADSIDE DITCH MM-HMM
AND THAT IS MAINTAINED BY HARRIS COUNTY.
UH, SO ONE THING I DID WANT TO ANSWER IS THAT, UM, IN HARRIS COUNTY, WE FOLLOW HARRIS COUNTY'S, UM, DETENTION REQUIREMENTS.
WHICH AT THIS POINT IS 0.65 ACRE FEET PER ACRE.
SO TWO THIRDS OF A FOOT FOR EVERY FOOT THAT THEY HAVE EFFORT, EVERY ACRE THAT THEY HAVE, UM, IS HOW MUCH THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO DETAIN.
UM, AND THE RECEIVING ENTITY, THEY DICTATE WHAT THEY WILL ACCEPT.
AND BOTH TDOT AND HARRIS COUNTY REQUIRE NO, UH, NO INCREASE IN, UM, DISCHARGE.
SO IT WOULD BE THE FALLOW LAND THAT'S OUT THERE RIGHT NOW, WHATEVER'S RUNNING OFF OF IT, THAT'S THE MAXIMUM THAT THEY COULD DISCHARGE FROM THEIR POND.
AND JUST ALSO TO CORRECT, UH, TO CORRECT IT'S A DETENTION POND, NOT A RETENTION POND, JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S CLEAR THAT WAY.
AND OF COURSE, BEING THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT, WE'RE REVIEWING THE PLANS, WE WON'T ALLOW IT AT LEAST THE NUMBERS TO, UM, EXCEED THE EXISTING CONDITIONS.
SO, SO WITH THAT, WITH HER QUESTION, LEMME ASK, THE FAULT WOULD BE IF, IF, IF AN ENTITY WERE TO WIDEN SHO LAND YES, SIR.
AND, AND I'M ASSUMING CONCRETE POSSIBLY WITH CURB, CURB AND GUTTER, THEN, UM, THEN OBVIOUSLY INLETS AND AND SO ON WOULD HAVE TO BE ABLE TO HAVE THE CAPACITY, UH, YES, SIR.
UH, TO, TO TO INTAKE WHATEVER IT MAY BE.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT WOULD BE, BUT, UM, YES SIR.
AND THAT AGAIN WOULD BE HARRIS COUNTY, SO RIGHT.
UM, THE OTHER THING THAT I WANTED TO ADDRESS FROM THE, UM, THE, THE CALLERS PERSPECTIVE, UM, IF THIS PARCEL, IF THERE'S NATURAL FLOW ACROSS THEIR LAND, THEY HAVE TO ACCEPT IT AND PASS IT THROUGH, THEY CAN'T BLOCK IT.
IT'S AGAIN, BACK TO THE, UH, ORDINANCES AND THE REQUIREMENTS IN THE DESIGN CRITERIA MANUAL FOR BOTH OP AND FOR HARRIS COUNTY AND FOR BAYTOWN.
SO, UM, WE'VE GOT SEVERAL PROJECTS WHERE THEY HAVE VERY OVERSIZED DRAINAGE FACILITIES BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO PASS THROUGH THE WATER THAT WAS COMING THROUGH.
AND I WOULD ASSUME, UH, I THINK THE GENTLEMAN WHO CALLED WHO, WHO'S AT VAL TEXTS NEXT DOOR, NEXT OR ADJACENT PROPERTY WOULD BE, I'M ASSUMING IT'S GONNA DRAIN ACROSS THEIR PROPERTY AND THEN CONTINUE EAST TO CEDAR BODY.
AND SO THIS DEVELOPMENT WOULD HAVE TO PROVIDE SOME SORT OF METHOD TO CONVEY THAT FLOW, UM, TO WHERE IT WAS NATURALLY GOING.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS,
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM COUNSEL ON? YES, SIR.
FROM THE ORIGINAL DESIGN Y'ALL WENT THROUGH AND COMPLETELY REVISED EVERYTHING, CHANGED QUITE A FEW ITEMS ON THAT.
WHY WAS THIS NEW DESIGN NOT TAKEN BACK TO P AND Z FOR RECONSIDERATION? I THINK WE DO, WE JUST, OKAY.
P AND Z ALREADY LOOKED AT THE APPLICATION AS IT WAS SUBMITTED AND THEY PROVIDED A RECOMMENDATION AT THE TIME IT WAS COMING BEFORE YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION, THE DEVELOPER DECIDED TO DO A REDESIGN.
SO WE DID NOT TAKE IT BACK TO PLANNING ZONING COMMISSION, WHICH IS OUR NORMAL PROCESS.
ONE OF THE CONCERNS IS THE TRAFFIC ON SHO LANDER, AND I THINK IT'S QUITE A FEW PEOPLE DID UNDERSTAND THAT THE GATE ON SHOAL LANDER IS A, UH, EMERGENCY GATE.
SO THAT'S NOT GOING TO ADD TRAFFIC TO SHO LAND, BUT WHAT THEY ARE CONCERNED ABOUT IS THE TRAFFIC THAT'S GONNA COME FROM THE SOUTH, FROM HIGHWAY 1 46.
THE EASY, QUICKEST WAY TO GET THERE IS TO GO NORTH ON SHO LAND FROM HIGHWAY 1 46 ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF TOWN.
AND SO THAT'S GONNA BE GOING UP TO SHO INTERSECTION I 10 AND THEN LOOPING WEST COMING BACK AROUND TO GET TO THIS FACILITY HERE.
THAT'S A LOT OF PEOPLE CONCERNED.
SO THAT'S GONNA HAVE TO BE A SEVERAL PART, UH, THAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT.
IT'S CITY OF BAYTOWN, IT'S HARRIS COUNTY AND THE STATE OF TEXAS THAT WE'RE GONNA NEED TO NEED TO LOOK AT SHO LAND ROAD AND DO SOMETHING WITH THAT.
THIS IS GONNA IMPACT TRAFFIC ON SHO LAND.
IT'S NOT THE FACT THAT THAT GATE IS CLOSED ALL THE TIME.
IT IS GONNA IMPACT TRAFFIC FROM 1 46 OVER TO INTERSTATE 10.
SO THAT NEEDS TO BE LOOKED AT.
UH, AND THEN THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT Y'ALL ARE PROHIBITING, UH, FOR ANYBODY
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THAT COMES INTO THIS FACILITY.AND SO THESE THINGS THAT YOU'RE PROHIBITING, HOW DOES THAT PASS ON TO THE NEXT OWNER? YOU BUILD THIS NICE FACILITY, WE'VE SEEN A LOT OF THESE PLACES WHERE YOU SELL OUT COMPLETELY AND IT GOES TO ANOTHER OWNER, AND THEN HE JUST SAYS, WE'RE NOT GONNA DO THAT ANYMORE.
SO HOW'S THAT GONNA WORK? THESE WILL, THEY WILL STAY WITH THE LAND.
AND IF YOU READ IT, DO YOU WANT TO, I'LL, I'LL HAVE MR. WILSON ADDRESS THAT SINCE HE'S OUR ATTORNEY.
AND I HAVE A QUESTION FOR STAFF ON THAT AS WELL, BECAUSE HE MAKES A GOOD POINT.
WELL, CAN YOU ANSWER THAT QUESTION FIRST AND THEN YOU CAN ASK YOUR QUESTION.
WELL, WHATEVER WAY YOU WANNA DO IT.
REED WILSON, UH, WILSON CRIBS AND GORAN 2,500 FANON IN HOUSTON.
UH, THAT WE HAVE PROFFERED A DECLARATION, 30 PAGES THAT WILL BE RECORDED THAT WILL PROVIDE PRIVATE RESTRICTIVE COVENANTS APPLICABLE TO THE LAND AND CAN'T BE MODIFIED WITHOUT THE CITY'S CONSENT.
AND WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH KAREN ON THAT AND ARE, UH, PRETTY FAR DOWN THE ROAD IN, IN TERMS OF, OF GETTING THAT ALL TO A GOOD POSITION TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT CONCERN IS NOT A PROBLEM.
AND YOU'RE THE OWNER, YOU'RE GONNA BE THE OWNER OF THIS, IS THAT WE
AND, AND HOW MANY OTHER, HOW MANY OTHERS OF THESE FACILITIES HAVE YOU BUILT THAT YOU HAVE SOLD AFTER A YEAR, TWO YEARS, WHATEVER.
TYPICALLY THESE PROJECTS RUN IN ABOUT SEVEN YEAR CYCLES, UH, FROM START TO FINISH.
USUALLY THE FIRST YEAR IS JUST INFRASTRUCTURE RELATED.
UM, THIS IS OUR THIRD PROJECT THAT WE'VE DONE LIKE THIS.
UM, WE DO MULTIPLE TYPES OF DEVELOPMENT WORK, BUT FROM A BUSINESS PARK STANDPOINT, THIS WILL BE OUR THIRD.
AND YOU, YOU STILL OWN ALL THREE OF THOSE, OR YOU'VE SOLD OUT COMPLETELY? WE'RE, WE STILL ARE IN CONTROL OF THOSE.
UH, ONE OF 'EM WE'VE SOLD COMPLETELY.
THE DEED RESTRICTIONS ARE NOW, UH, APPLICABLE TO THE NEW, TO THE NEW OWNERS.
THE OTHER ONE, WE'RE STILL IN CONTROL OF IT.
BUT, UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE DO TO ADDRESS YOUR CONCERNS AND OUR, OUR LONG-TERM VALUE CONCERNS IS WE CREATE A LANDOWNERS ASSOCIATION WHICH GOVERNS ALL THE DEED RESTRICTIONS AND RESTRICTIVE COVENANTS AND ARCHITECTURAL RESTRICTIONS WITHIN THE BUSINESS PARK.
AND UP UNTIL AS LONG AS WE CONTROL MORE THAN 50% OF THE LAND IN THE BUSINESS PARK.
WE DON'T ACTIVATE THAT, THAT, UM, LANDOWNER'S ASSOCIATION.
BUT IF WE CONVEY TITLE TO A PARCEL OF LAND TO A THIRD PARTY OWNER, THEY'RE REQUIRED TO BE A MEMBER OF THAT, UH, LANDOWNER'S ASSOCIATION.
AND THEY'RE ALSO, OBVIOUSLY THE DEED RESTRICTIONS GO WITH THE LAND, BUT WE PUT IN PLACE A LONG-TERM MANAGEMENT PROTOCOL MADE UP OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE A VESTED FINANCIAL INTEREST IN PROPERTY IN THIS BUSINESS PARK SO THAT WE CAN ENSURE LONG, LONG-TERM ADHERENCE TO OUR GUIDELINES, BUT ALSO LONG-TERM VALUE.
GO AHEAD CHRIS, SINCE YOU IT WAS ON THAT SUBJECT.
WELL, SAME SUBJECT, BUT THAT ANSWERED MY QUESTION.
IF IT WAS THE LANDOWNER'S ASSOCIATION AND WHO'S TO SAY THEY COULDN'T GET TOGETHER, YOU KNOW, FIVE YEARS FROM NOW AND SAY, HEY, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T REALLY WANNA MEET THESE RESTRICTIONS ANYMORE AND WE'D LIKE TO DISSOLVE THEM, BUT THAT MAKES ME MORE COMFORTABLE KNOWING THAT THE CITY DOES HAVE THAT EMBEDDED IN A CONTRACTUAL WRITTEN AGREEMENT THAT THAT CAN'T HAPPEN WITHOUT THE CITY'S CONSENT.
AND ONE LAST QUESTION IF I MAY, MS. TIFFANY, LAST ONE.
OH NO, YOU SAID MS. TIFFANY, MAYBE THIS MIGHT BE, WHAT DO WE HAVE AVAILABLE TO US TO HOLD THEIR FEET TO THE FIRE ON THIS PROJECT'S? LET'S SAY, LIKE RIGHT NOW THEY'RE, THEY'RE SAYING THEY'RE GONNA PUT IN A BUNCH OF SMALL BUILDINGS AND THEN SOMEBODY COMES IN AND SAY, I NEED 1 MILLION SQUARE FEET AND I NEEDED 120 FEET TALL.
WHAT DO WE HAVE AVAILABLE TO KEEP THAT FROM HAPPENING LATER ON AFTER WE'RE ALREADY, UH, THEY'VE GOT A FEW ROADS IN THERE AND THEY'RE ALREADY CONSTRUCTING AND IT'S ALREADY BEEN APPROVED, AND THEN BAM, HERE COMES THIS BIG HUGE BUILDING THAT THEY WANNA PUT ON HERE.
WHAT, WHAT DO WE HAVE AVAILABLE TO STOP THAT? SO, AS I'VE DESCRIBED, WE'RE GONNA BE A PARTY, THE CITY OF BAYTOWN ISS A PARTY TO THEIR, UH, DEED RESTRICTIONS.
SO IF THEY DO MAKE CHANGES THAT, UM, ARE WITHIN THE DEED RESTRICTIONS, THEY DO HAVE TO COME BACK TO US.
WE JUST RECENTLY TALKED ABOUT SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT THE MAYOR WANTS TO SEE IN THE, IN THE DEED RESTRICTIONS ON, UH, BUILDING SIZE AND SCOPE AND THAT KIND OF THING.
SO WE'LL JUST MAKE SURE THAT THOSE THINGS ARE, ARE INCLUDED.
SO ANYTHING IN THOSE DECLARATIONS WE GET TO, UM, YOU KNOW, BE A PARTY TO, IF THEY WOULD LIKE TO CHANGE THOSE.
AND SO THEY, THEY ARE A WORK IN PROGRESS AND THOSE WILL BE COMING TO YOU ALL AT YOUR NEXT MEETING.
SO I WOULDN'T FOLLOW UP WITH THAT.
THAT'LL BE COMING TO YOU ALL IN YOUR NEXT MEETING.
BUT IT WAS A GOOD, IT'S A VERY GOOD QUESTION.
SO I THINK THE BIGGEST MISCONCEPTION OF THIS ENTIRE PROJECT, BECAUSE
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WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING LIKE IT IN BAYTOWN, IS, IS BEING ABLE TO SCALE IT TO WHAT IT REALLY IS.'CAUSE WHEN WE HEAR WAREHOUSES, WE AUTOMATICALLY THINK EVERYTHING ALONG GRAND PARKWAY, 99, AROUND HOUSTON, WE THINK 2 25.
AND REALLY WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS 15,000 SQUARE FOOT BUILDINGS.
YOU CALL 'EM WAREHOUSES OR ADMIN BUILDINGS.
FOR SOME COMPANIES, WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE, THEY MAY HOUSE CRITICAL PARTS, WHATEVER THE WHAT, WHATEVER THEY, THEY CHOOSE.
BUT, UM, I WAS CONCERNED WITH THE HEIGHT IN A SENSE.
UH, I THINK ON AVERAGE THE TILT WALL, LARGE LOGISTIC TYPE WAREHOUSING THAT HAS, YOU KNOW, THE, THE BAY, YOU KNOW, A HUNDRED BAYS OF 18 WHEELER TYPE, UM, YOU KNOW, UH, AMENITIES AND SO ON.
I THINK WE'RE PROBABLY LOOKING AT MAYBE ABOUT A 35 FOOT OR SOMETHING IN THAT REALM OF A, OF A EASEMENT, OR EXCUSE ME, THE, THE KIND OF THE ROOF LINE, ROOF LINE.
THERE MAY BE SOME PITCH TO IT IF THERE'S A CRANE OR SOMETHING INVOLVED.
UH, AS FAR AS THEY HAVE A SMALL CRANE OVERHEAD.
UM, BUT REALLY THIS IS REALLY, IF YOU HAVE TO COMPARE IT TO A RESIDENTIAL PEAK OF A TWO STORY HOUSE, IT'S VERY SIMILAR TO A TWO STORY RESIDENTIAL HOUSE IS MY UNDERSTANDING IN, IN GENERAL TERMS. AND, AND THAT'S WHAT WE WANT TO KEEP 'EM TO.
AND THE OTHER, THE OTHER THING I WANNA POINT OUT IS A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE REFERENCED THIS PROJECT TO WHAT'S GOING ON ON THE WEST SIDE OF TOWN, THOMPSON AND I TENER.
I DON'T THINK YOU COMPARE THE TWO FROM WHAT I'M SEEING HERE, AND IF YOU STICK TO THIS, IT'S COMPLETELY DIFFERENT FROM WHAT I'M SEEING ON THE WEST SIDE OF TOWN.
AND I'M AGREE WITH ALL THOSE PEOPLE THAT'S COME OUT THERE AND SAID, WE DON'T WANT BAYTOWN TO LOOK LIKE AN INDUSTRIAL WAREHOUSE.
YOU COME IN FROM THE WEST, THERE'S WAREHOUSE THAT YOU COME IN FROM THE EAST.
HERE IS THIS PROJECT MORE WAREHOUSING.
AND I DON'T THINK THAT'S WHAT, UH, THE, THE CITY OF BAYTOWN OR THE PEOPLE OF THIS CITY WANT.
AND THEY WANT SOMETHING MORE APPEALING THAN THAT.
AND WHICH LEADS ME TO NOW MY NEXT, MY LAST QUESTION NOW, IT'S NOT ONLY INCLUDING THE, THE BUILDINGS, BUT THE FOLIAGE AND THE UH, UH, THE LANDSCAPING THAT WE'RE GONNA PUT OUT THERE.
DO WE HAVE TOOLS IN OUR TOOLBOX TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE ARE KEPT UP? AND WHAT WE SEE HERE IS MORE OR LESS WHAT WE'RE GONNA GET? UH, YES.
AND WE'RE ACTUALLY WORKING ON THOSE DETAILS.
SO THEY ARE PROVIDING, UH, WHAT WE CALL A GREEN BELT RESERVE.
THIS IS A SIMILAR TYPE OF, UM, PRODUCT WE DID ALONG THE GRAND PARKWAY WHEN WE WORKED WITH AMPORT.
AND IT'S TO, UM, PROTECT THE VISUAL OF, OF THE BUILDINGS, THE WEAR, THE BUILDINGS, NOT NOT WAREHOUSES.
UM, SO WE'RE WORKING ON THOSE DETAILS RIGHT NOW WITH THEM AS FAR AS HOW DENSE, UM, THE, THE GREEN BELT WILL BE AND WHEN THE GREEN BELT WILL BE INSTALLED SO THAT THE RESIDENTS CAN START TO SEE THAT PICTURE WHEN THEY'RE STARTING TO DEVELOP.
SO WE, WE ARE DEFINITELY WORKING ON THOSE, THOSE DETAILS.
AND AS FAR AS MAINTENANCE, UM, IN SOME OF THE DRAFTS WE HAVE, UH, WORDING ALREADY THAT IT HAS TO BE PERPETUALLY MAINTAINED.
UM, AND LUCKILY INSIDE THE CITY WE HAVE SEVERAL DIFFERENT MECHANISMS TO MAKE, TO MAKE SURE THAT'S MAINTAINED.
YOU HAVE THEIR MUD DISTRICT THAT THEY'LL BE IN.
YOU HAVE THEIR, UM, UH, THE DEVELOPER THEMSELVES, THE DECLARATIONS, AND YOU HAVE THE CITY OF BAYTOWN HEALTH DEPARTMENT.
SO I THINK THEY'RE WELL COVERED TO KEEP THAT LANDSCAPING LOOKING, LOOKING TOP NOTCH.
UH, AND MR. SEL, I'M SORRY THAT YOU ARE AT THE KIDS' TABLE TONIGHT, BUT IT'S ALL, BUT YOU'RE MORE THAN WELCOME.
YOU, YOU GET THREE QUESTIONS AT LEAST
UH, YOU KNOW, I'M A LITTLE BIT CONCERNED FOR THE FOLKS ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE PROPERTY THERE, PECAN FOREST AND MCDANIEL'S AND ALL THAT.
YOU KNOW, WHEN THOSE FOLKS BUILT THOSE HOUSES, WE DID THOSE.
THEY DIDN'T THINK BUILDUP, BUILDUP BUILD UP AND THEY'RE ALREADY FLOODING OVER THERE.
YOU HEARD EM TALK ON THE PHONE THERE.
THEY GOT A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT ARE HAVING A LOT OF PROBLEMS ALREADY.
SO, YOU KNOW, I DON'T WANNA SAY THAT I DON'T TRUST THE ENGINEERING ON THE RETENTION AND DETENTION OR WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT, BUT I'M, I'M VERY CONCERNED.
UH, MY QUESTION WOULD BE THE FINAL GRADE OF THE 58 ACRES WHEN YOU'RE DONE AND WHEN YOU DO IT, WHAT WOULD ITS RELATIONSHIP BE TO SLANDER? I KNOW SHO LANDER'S UP NOW, AND I KNOW WE HAVE CULVERT'S UNDERNEATH, SO THE WATER DOES FLOW EAST.
BUT, UH, HOW HIGH WILL THAT PROPERTY BE RELATED TO THE LEVEL OF SHO LANDER? COULD IT GET OVER SHO YOU KNOW, AND THESE, I KNOW THESE HUNDRED YEAR FLOODS, UH, NOW COME EVERY 10 YEARS.
AND THEY DO BECAUSE WE BUILD AND BUILD AND BUILD.
SO WE NEED TO, THEY NEED TO CHANGE THAT.
'CAUSE A HUNDRED YEAR FLOODS COME EVERY 10 YEARS NOW.
AND I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE PEOPLE ON THE EAST SIDE.
IF, IF I MAY GET, FIND A WAY TO GET AN ANSWER BACK TO YOU FROM OUR ENGINEER.
'CAUSE I DON'T WANT TO GIVE A, GIVE AN ANSWER TO THAT, THAT I'M NOT A HUNDRED PERCENT SURE.
AND I HEARD SEVERAL PEOPLE SAY, YOU'RE GONNA RAISE IT UP.
I GOT THAT, AND I, AND YOU WILL.
I CAN ANSWER SOME OF THOSE QUESTIONS.
UM, THE DETENTION FUNDS ARE REQUIRED TO BE SIZED TO HOLD THE A HUNDRED YEAR FOR THE SITE.
SO THAT'S ONE OF THE REQUIREMENTS OF HARRIS COUNTY.
UM, WITH THE NEW DRAINAGE REQUIREMENTS THAT HARRIS COUNTY HAS, UH, ADOPTED, THEY INCREASED THEIR DETENTION REQUIREMENT AT LEAST 20%
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FROM WHAT IT WAS BEFORE.AND WHEN YOU TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION THE NEW ATLAS 14 RAINFALL DATA MM-HMM
UM, I'VE BEEN NOTICING FOR WHERE WE ARE AND HOW OUR SYSTEMS ACTUALLY OPERATE, IT'S VERY CONSERVATIVE TO SAY THE LEAST.
I'VE RUN SOME NUMBERS WHERE THE SYSTEMS ARE SUPPO UNDER ATLAS 14, OR THE SUBDIVISION'S SUPPOSED TO BE THREE FEET UNDERWATER AND THEY'RE NOT.
SO THE ATLAS 14, EVERYTHING'S BECOMING MORE CONSERVATIVE AT THIS POINT WITH REGARDS TO BEING ABOVE SHO.
SOME OF THAT IS ACTUALLY CONTROLLED BY OUR ORDINANCES AND BY THE BUILDING CODE.
THE, UM, FINISHED FLOOR HAS TO BE A CERTAIN ELEVATION ABOVE EITHER THE A HUNDRED YEAR, THE 500 YEAR, UM, AND IN CERTAIN LOCATIONS AND AREAS, IT'S ACTUALLY, UM, THE CROWN OF THE ROAD.
UM, SO THOSE, YES, IT WILL, THE, THE BUILDING ELEVATIONS WILL BE ABOVE SLANDER, BUT THE PONDS ARE THERE TO HOLD THE HUNDRED YEAR.
AND COUNCILMAN SEL, IF I MAY ADD.
THE F THE FOLKS ON, ON, YOU KNOW, THEY LIVE ON MCDANIEL NEAR SLANDER.
OBVIOUSLY SOME OF THOSE ARE COUNTY FOLKS, UM, BUT THEY ACTUALLY HAVE A, I MEAN, THEY'RE STILL GONNA BE IMPACTED BY THINGS THAT HAPPEN IN THE CITY LIMITS OF BAYTOWN OR, OR IN OUR PROXIMITY.
UM, I, I WOULD LIKE TO WORK WITH PRECINCT TWO.
UH, I KNOW THEY'VE BEEN CLEANING OUT ALL THE DITCHES THEY POSSIBLY CAN AND ALL THE COUNTY ROADS.
SO LET'S LOOK AT, I WANNA LOOK AT WHAT WE CAN DO TO HELP, YOU KNOW, EVEN OUR, EVEN OUR, OUR CITIZENS THAT ARE JUST OUTSIDE OF THE CITY LIMITS, UM, I WOULD ASSUME FROM SOME OF SOME GOT FLOODED, IT SOUNDED LIKE IN HARVEY, SOME DIDN'T.
SO I'M SURE, DEPENDING ON WHERE THEY LIVE ON, ON THAT ROADWAY.
UM, BUT I WOULD THINK THAT SHO LAND WOULD PROBABLY ACT AS A DAM BETWEEN, BETWEEN SHO LANDER AND CEDAR BAYOU IN A SENSE.
SO I'M NOT SURE, I THINK I'M NOT THE ENGINEER, BUT WHAT WOULD HAPPEN OVER THERE IS ALMOST SOMEWHAT IRRELEVANT BECAUSE THAT, THAT THE CROWN OF THAT ROAD WOULD FIRST ACT AS THE FIRST DAM IN A SENSE.
WELL, IT JUST TELLS ME THEY'RE RIGHT ON THE EDGE.
THEY'RE ALREADY, NO, I DON'T DISAGREE.
SO IF WE MAKE ANY TYPE OF ERROR HERE, WE'RE GONNA GET 'EM, WE'RE GONNA GET 'EM MAD.
AND SO IF THERE'S IMPROVEMENTS, I MEAN, THERE'S OTHER LARGE SCALE CEDAR BODY PROJECTS THAT WE, THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO DO TO TRY TO ALLEVIATE SOME OF THAT.
UH, HARVEY, UH, I AGREE WITH YOU.
I KNOW THEY, IT WAS A 45,000 YEAR RAINY EVENT THAT TOOK PLACE, YOU KNOW, TWO, THREE YEARS AGO.
UM, AND, AND THEY SEEM TO HAPPEN A LITTLE BIT MORE OFTEN THAN THAT.
UM, IT IS SOMETHING HARD TO PLAN FOR BECAUSE HARVEY RAIN EVENTS OF 60 INCHES IN THE CITY OF BAYTOWN IS HARD TO REALLY PLAN FOR.
UM, BUT WE, WE, WE WANNA TRY TO PLAN FOR ANY OF THOSE TYPE OF EVENTS, UM, WITHIN, WITHIN WHAT ENGINEERING CAN DO.
YOU CANNOT, ONE THING I KNOW YOU CANNOT OUT ENGINEER MOTHER NATURE, YOU CAN TRY AND WE WILL TRY, BUT, BUT THERE'S SOME THINGS THAT ARE JUST OUT, OUT OF OUR ABILITY SOMETIMES.
UM, UM, WE WANNA WORK WITH THE COUNTY FOR OUR COUNTY RESIDENTS AND ENSURE THAT THEY ARE AS PROTECTED AS POSSIBLE, JUST LIKE ANY BAYTOWN CITIZEN.
THEY'RE, THEY'RE JUST OUTSIDE OF OUR CITY LIMITS IN SOME CASES.
BUT, BUT I TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU, IF WE CAN DO ANYTHING, IF IT'S THE, THE DITCH CLEAN OUT, UH, IF IT'S MAKING SURE THAT THAT OBVIOUSLY, UH, FLOOD PLAN ADMINISTRATORS BOTH ON THE COUNTY AND CITY LEVEL WILL MAKE SURE THAT, THAT THEY'RE ACCOUNTABLE FOR WHAT THEY HAVE TO BY LAW.
UM, BUT IF THERE'S ANYTHING WE CAN DO IN ADDITION TO THAT, THEN, THEN WE ARE CERTAINLY IN FAVOR OF ALSO.
DO YOU HAVE ANY MORE QUESTIONS? NO, GO AHEAD.
UH, MR. JOHNSON HASN'T A QUESTION YET, SO YOU GO AHEAD, BOB.
ON THE POINT OF THE DRAINAGE, JUST, JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS THAT THE PONDS ARE THERE TO DETAIN WATER TO RELEASE IT SLOWLY SO IT DOESN'T AFFECT THAT FOR THAT AREA OVER THERE.
MY CONCERN IS THE FLOODING SOUTH OF SHOLAN OR SOUTH OF THIS PROJECT INTO THE EAST SIDE OF SHO LAND ROAD.
THAT'S WHERE WE NEED TO GET WITH, UH, THE HARRIS COUNTY COMMISSIONERS.
THERE'S A, THE MAIN DRAINAGE DITCH FOR THAT AND WHERE THEIR OUTFALL IS GOING TO EVENTUALLY END UP IS A DRAINAGE DITCH THAT'S MAYBE A HUNDRED YARDS SOUTH OF THERE THAT GOES EAST OF CEDAR BOW.
THAT HAS NOT BEEN CLEANED OUT IN A LONG TIME.
SO THAT IS WHERE WE NEED TO COME TALK TO HARRIS COUNTY AND LET THEM KNOW THAT NEEDS TO BE, UH, NOT ONLY DEEPER, IT NEEDS TO BE WIDER TO HANDLE ALL THAT RUNOFF.
AND SO WE, YOU KNOW, I, I WANT TO TRY TO GET THAT ADDRESS ALL, YOU KNOW, ALL THOSE NOT IN WITH THE CITY OF LIMITS OF BAYTOWN.
THERE ARE SOME RESIDENT, THERE'S, IF I'M CORRECT, I THINK I'M CORRECT, THERE IS SOME RESIDENTIAL AREAS BACK THERE THAT ARE PRIVATE.
THEY'RE TOTALLY PRIVATE MM-HMM
AND WHERE THE COUNTY, EVERYTHING THERE IS JUST WHATEVER THE LANDOWNERS DID.
AND SO EVEN THE COUNTY, IF IT'S NOT ON THEIR LOG BOOKS, THEY CAN'T TOUCH IT EITHER.
THAT MAY BE THE CASE, BUT WELL, THAT IS A HARRIS COUNTY DRAINAGE THAT JUST, JUST OUT.
BUT, BUT I'M SAYING THERE'S SOME RESIDENTIAL AREAS BACK THERE THAT COULD BE FAMILIES THAT HAVE 10 HOUSES AND WHATEVER THEY DID FOR THEIR DRAINAGE IS WHAT THEY DID.
AND, AND THE COUNTY CANNOT TOUCH IT.
IT'S, IT'S BASICALLY, IT'S LIKE A GATED COMMUNITY.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, MR. JOHNSON? YEAH.
YOU KNOW, I, I CAN SHARE IN THE CONCERN THAT BOB, DAVE, AND I BELIEVE ALL OF US HAVE ABOUT THE FLOODING.
UM, MOST OF MY QUESTIONS HAVE BEEN ANSWERED, BUT I JUST WANT TO REITERATE THE CONCERN ABOUT THE TRAFFIC.
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IN BAYTOWN ALREADY, EVEN THOUGH IT'S NOT CONSIDERED BAYTOWN PROPER, THOSE CITIZENS STILL CONSIDER THEMSELVES CITIZENS OF OUR CITY.AND I'M GOING TO BE CONCERNED ABOUT ADDING TO AN ISSUE THAT WE HEAR A LOT ABOUT ALREADY.
UM, WE, WE REFERENCE THE IMAGINE BAYTOWN SURVEY ALL THE TIME, AND IT HAS TO BE ONE OF THE TOP FIVE THINGS THAT COME UP EVERY YEAR AS A TRAFFIC IN BAYTOWN, NOT ONLY GARTH ROAD.
THE QUESTION I HAVE IS IF EVEN THOUGH THAT'S A COUNTY ROAD, COULD WE CONDUCT A TRAFFIC STUDY OF WHAT'S GOING ON NOW OR DO WE HAVE ACCESS TO TRAFFIC STUDIES THAT THE COUNTY MAY HAVE, UM, CONDUCTED? WE CAN ASK MATT.
UM, I WOULD HAVE TO CHECK WITH MY COUNTERPARTS AT HARRIS COUNTY ON THAT ISSUE IF THEY'VE DONE ANY STUDIES.
CAN YOU GET TO THE MIC A LITTLE CLOSER? THANK YOU.
SORRY, I WAS AFRAID OF THE FEEDBACK.
UM, I WOULD'VE TO CHECK WITH MY COUNTERPARTS AT HARRIS COUNTY TO SEE IF THEY'VE DONE ANY STUDIES ON SLANDER.
UM, WOULD IT PROHIBIT US FROM DOING ONE? NO.
UM, AND UH, THAT'S ACTUALLY BEEN A PART OF MY, IT'S ON MY TO-DO LIST TO GO OVER THERE AND START LOOKING AT THE TRAFFIC FOR IT.
UM, HAVEN'T UNFORTUNATELY HAD A CHANCE TO DO THAT YET.
UH, ONE OF THE THINGS I DID ALSO WANNA ADDRESS, UM, THAT, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER HOSKINS HAD BROUGHT UP WAS THE TRUCKS.
SO IF SOMEONE DOES TAKE, UH, A HEAVY VEHICLE AS DEFINED BY OUR ORDINANCES AND DRIVE UP CEDAR BAYOU TO, OR CROSBY'S CEDAR MM-HMM
THE ONE THE SLANDER TURNS INTO, UM, IT TAKES THAT NORTH FROM 1 46 UP SHO LANDER.
WHEN THEY'RE INSIDE THE CITY LIMITS, THEY'RE BREAKING THE WALL.
UM, THE ONLY CAVEAT, THE ONLY ABILITY THAT THEY HAVE AS A DEFENSE IS IF IT'S THE SHORTEST ROUTE, UH, TO THEIR DESTINATION FROM A TRUCK ROUTE.
SO THEY WOULD HAVE TO FOLLOW, I TEND TO GET TO THIS, OTHERWISE THEY'RE BREAKING THE LAW AND THE CHIEF OVER THERE, HIS, UH, COMMERCIAL DIVISION'S GONNA BE GETTING SOME MONEY.
UM, SO THAT, WELL, WE GOT A LOT OF CRIMINALS OVER THERE THEN.
YOU SOLVED THE BUDGET PROBLEM
UM, AND AS FAR AS THE TRAFFIC GOES, YES, THE INTERSECTION OF SHO WIND IS VERY HEAVY, ESPECIALLY AT FIVE 30 AND FIVE 30.
UM, AND THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE DO NEED TO ADDRESS.
WELL, LET ME ADDRESS THIS SINCE YOU BROUGHT IT UP.
WE HAVE A LOT OF TRAFFIC ON INTERSTATE 10 WHEN IT GETS STACKED UP, THE TRUCKERS TURN DOWN SHO AND GO TO 1 46.
WHENEVER THERE'S A WRECK OR SOME TRAFFIC ON 1 46, THEY GO NORTH ON SHO LANDER TO GET TO INTERSTATE 10.
WE HAVE THAT PROBLEM NOW, AND I GUARANTEE YOU WHEN THEY GET ON THEIR GPS AND SAY, I NEED TO GET TO THIS PARK AND THEY'RE COMING UP 1 46, IT IS GONNA TAKE 'EM DOWN SHO LAND ROAD AND WELL, THERE WOULD BE APPROPRIATE, I MEAN, SHOULDN'T THERE BE APPROPRIATE SIGNAGE TO SAY THIS IS NOT A THROUGH ROUTE? I'M SURE THAT'LL STOP 'EM.
AND IF IT'S, IF IT'S, IT'S KINDA LIKE THE SPEED LIMIT AT 30 IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, IF IT'S, UH, IF IT'S LOAD RATED, THEN YOU WOULD, I MEAN, THAT WOULD BE COMMERCIAL ENFORCEMENT EITHER WAY.
BUT, BUT YES, I MEAN, I UNDERSTAND YOUR POINT, BUT THEN YOU JUST ENFORCE, YOU ENFORCE THE TRAFFIC LAWS.
REGARDLESS OF WHAT, SOONER, SOONER LATER WE'RE GONNA NEED TO CONSIDER WHAT WE DO TO SHO LAND ROAD.
FROM 1 46 TO NORTH, THAT NEEDS TO BE FOUR LANES, WHATEVER.
SO WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE TO KNOW TO POSSIBLY CA TRY TO CALCULATE HOW MUCH TRAFFIC WOULD INCREASE IN THE FUTURE HERE WITH THIS BUSINESS IF THIS BUSINESS SPARK WAS TO GO IN A TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS WAS COMPLETED? UM, HOWEVER, THE LAND PLAN HAS SIGNIFICANTLY CHANGED AND, UM, THE TRIP GENERATIONS HAVE, UM, SHIFTED.
I'LL HAVE TO TAKE A LOOK AND SEE IF THEY SHIFTED ENOUGH TO, UM, REQUEST AND REQUIRE A, AN UPDATE TO THE TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS.
BUT I THINK WITH THIS, THIS SITE PLAN COMPARED TO WHAT WAS BEFORE, IS THAT MM-HMM
THE ENTRANCE AND EXIT IS ALL ON FRONTAGE OF YES, I 10.
SO THIS WOULD REDIRECT, UM, AT THE TIME THAT THE TRAFFIC STUDY WAS DONE, I DIDN'T SEE, UM, ANY TRULY NEGATIVE IMPACT FROM THE DEVELOPMENT BEFORE.
UM, UNDER THIS NEW SITE PLAN, I HAVEN'T LOOKED AT IT YET.
UM, BUT THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT UP.
I DO NEED TO CHECK ON THAT AND SEE.
AND IF YOU HAVE ANY OTHER STATEMENTS THAT YOU DIDN'T USE ALL YOUR TIME, IF THERE'S ANY CLOSING COMMENT YOU'D LIKE TO MAKE SO WE CAN CLOSE OUR PUBLIC HEARING, JUST THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME TONIGHT.
AND IF THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE THAT ANYONE THINKS OF THINKS OF THE NEXT COUPLE WEEKS, PLEASE JUST REACH OUT THROUGH STAFF AND WE'LL BE HAPPY TO, HAPPY TO TAKE CARE OF IT AND GET YOU AN ANSWER FOR WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR.
SURELY WE NEED TO HEAR FROM MR. LIEBER.
WELL, I THOUGHT THEY YIELDED ALL THEIR TIME, BUT IF NOT, COME WELL
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STILL, WE NEED TO HEAR FROM HIM.WE HAVEN'T SEEN HIM IN A WHILE.
IF YOU WANT TO HEAR FROM BOB, THEN GO AHEAD.
OH, MAYOR AND COUNCIL, HOW YOU DOING BOB? MY NAME IS BOB LEPER.
I'M GLAD THAT I LIVE AT 94 14 WESTMINSTER AVENUE IN DOWNTOWN IOLA, TEXAS.
AND AS WE ARE TOO,
I DO WANNA START OFF AND SAY WHOEVER DID THIS, COUNCIL CHAMBER DID AN OUTSTANDING JOB.
THIS IS A BEAUTIFUL SETTING IN WHICH TO CONDUCT YOUR BUSINESS.
I'VE BEEN INVOLVED IN THIS PROJECT SINCE AFTER THE, THE P AND Z.
AND MY ROLE IS TO TRY AND MAKE, HELP THEM MAKE THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT YOU'VE SEEN.
I WILL TELL YOU, I THINK THIS IS A GREAT PROJECT.
I THINK IT IS WHAT WE HAVE LOOKED FOR IN THIS AREA FOR MANY, MANY YEARS AND, AND, AND BACK COUNCIL MEMBERS.
AND WE'VE HAD SOME PROJECTS ALL ALONG I 10 AND THE SHO LAND AREA THAT HAVE NOT COME TO FRUITION, BUT THEY DID NOT HAVE THE ARCHITECTURAL SAFEGUARDS THAT THIS ONE HAS.
UH, THE FACT THAT THEY ARE MEETING ACTUALLY EXCEEDING ALL THE, THE MASONRY REQUIREMENTS THAT THE STATE LEGISLATURE SO LOVINGLY STRIPPED Y'ALL THE ABILITY TO, TO HAVE FREER CITY, BUT THEY'RE EXCEEDING THOSE MM-HMM
TO A HUNDRED PERCENT IN THE FRONT.
I UNDERSTAND THE, THE CONCERNS ABOUT, ABOUT TRAFFIC AND ABOUT DRAINAGE AND ALL OF THAT, AND THE, AND THE DRAINAGE, UH, IS AN ISSUE.
I'M NOT CONCERNED ABOUT THE ONSITE, BUT I THINK YOU'RE RIGHT.
YOU NEED TO LOOK AT, AT THE, THE DOWNSTREAM.
NOW, UH, YOU KNOW, FRANKLY ON THE, ON THE TRAFFIC COMING UP, SHOW LANDER TO GET TO THIS PROJECT, THEY'RE GONNA LEARN REAL QUICK THAT IF THEY JUST COME UP NORTH MAIN, THEY DON'T HAVE TO MAKE THE LOOP AROUND I 10, BUT I ALSO AGREE WE NEED A U-TURN AT, AT, AT I 10.
I WAS UNABLE TO DO THAT, BUT, UH, I'LL BE HAPPY TO, TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
IT'S, IT'S NICE TO COME TO A COUNCIL MEETING AND SIT OUT HERE
SO, SO WE DO APPRECIATE, UH, OBVIOUSLY YOU, YOU'VE BEEN AROUND WHEN, WHEN ALL OUR ULDC WAS CREATED IN THE DIFFERENT ZONING CLASSIFICATIONS.
AND CERTAINLY YOU UNDERSTAND THIS IS, THIS IS A DIFFERENT TYPE OF SITE, DIFFERENT TYPE OF USAGE OF A SITE AND DOESN'T FIT VERY WELL INTO EITHER GC OR AN LI.
AND, UH, AND, AND THAT'S WHAT'S HARD.
AND, AND I ALMOST WANNA SAY THE LI ZONING CLASSIFICATION IS ALMOST NEGATED, WHICH IS ACTUALLY A GOOD THING.
IT'S NEGATED BECAUSE OF THE, OF THE DEED RESTRICTIONS THAT CAN BE PLACED, UH, ADDITIONAL LAYERS COMPARED TO WHERE WHEN WE HAVE LI AND IF IT WAS ALREADYI, THERE'S NOT MUCH TO CITY FOR THE MOST PART CAN DO.
BUT THE ADDITIONAL LAYERS BESIDES WHAT THE DEVELOPER HAS ALREADY PRESENTED IN, IN MEETING SOME OF THE CONCERNS, BUT ADD, ADD THE DEED RESTRICTIONS AND THAT IT, IT CONVEYS WITH, WITH, IF THERE WAS A CHANGE OF OWNERSHIP, UM, I FEEL WAY MORE COMFORTABLE.
I WAS, I WAS ADAMANTLY OPPOSED OF, OF LI BECAUSE I AGREE WE DON'T NEED A LARGE SCALE 200 SQUARE FOOT TYPE, UH, LOGISTICS WAREHOUSE AT THAT CORNER.
BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, COUNSEL HAS A RESPONSIBILITY TO MAKE A DETERMINATION.
UH, IF, IF THERE'S A ZONING CLASSIFICATION CHANGE, IS IT, FIRST IT HAS TO BE IN REALITY.
UH, WE DO NEED, IF SOMETHING'S GONNA COME, IS IT REALISTICALLY THE BEST USE OF THIS LAND THAT GOD HAS GIVEN THE GREAT STATE OF TEXAS? AND I THINK, UH, A BUSINESS PARK OF A CLASS, A MAGNITUDE MAY BE THAT.
AND SO WE HAVE TO, TO, TO REALLY LOOK AT THE MERIT OF, OF THE PROJECT.
UH, I DO APPRECIATE THE DEVELOPER, UH, MAKING THE ADJUSTMENTS FROM WHAT I WAS TOLD AT LEAST SIX MONTHS AGO, WHAT WAS PRESENTED TO PLANNING ZONING.
WE DO APPRECIATE THEIR TIME, UH, THAT THEY DO ON THAT.
AND, AND THEY, THEY MADE THEIR DECISION AND, AND NOW COUNSEL IN, IN TWO WEEKS, WE'LL, WE'LL MAKE OURS, UH, BASED OFF THE CURRENT MERIT OF THE PROJECT.
AND SO YOU, YOU HAVING, YOU KNOW, THE INPUT TO, TO PROVIDE YOUR EXPERTISE TO THE PROJECT, OBVIOUSLY COUNCIL HAS, HAS VOICED THEIR QUESTIONS.
UM, THERE'S NO DOUBT THAT FLOODING AND TRAFFIC IS A CONCERN ANYWHERE IN OUR CITY.
SO THE CITIZEN INPUT THIS EVENING HAS, HAS CERTAINLY BEEN, UM, YOU KNOW, UM, IT'S NOT, NOT NEW.
WE, WE DO WANNA MITIGATE ANY OF THOSE TYPE OF SITUATIONS WITH ANY DEVELOPMENT THAT WE HAVE.
IT DOESN'T MATTER IF IT'S THE MALL OR WHATEVER.
UM, WE, WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT, THAT WE ARE NOT FLOODING ANY, ANY, ANY PEOPLE THAT DOESN'T, THAT, THAT, UM, THAT WOULDN'T, THAT WOULD KIND OF, UH, BE A, A CAUSE FROM THIS PROJECT.
I DON'T THINK THAT'S THE CASE.
OBVIOUSLY HARVEY IS A, IS AN EVENT THAT THAT IS HARD TO ENGINEER AND PREDICT, UM, WITH ANY FUTURE DEVELOPMENT.
BUT I DO APPRECIATE YOUR TIME AND IT'S ALWAYS GOOD TO SEE YOU HERE, BOB, AND, AND, UH, AND, UH, I ALWAYS WISH YOU THE BEST, UM, WITH THAT, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS, BUT I THINK WE CAN MOVE ON FROM THIS ITEM.
ALRIGHT, MR. MAYOR? YES, I DO JUST WANT TO TELL YOU, UH, PROCEDURALLY, AND WE'VE KIND OF MENTIONED IT ALREADY, UH, THAT AT YOUR NEXT MEETING YOU WILL BE PRESENTED WITH, UM, UH, TO REVIEW THE COPY OF THEIR RESTRICTIONS THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON.
SO IF THERE ARE ANY OTHER ISSUES, EVEN AS MR. DOVI HAS, HAS MENTIONED THAT YOU ALL, UM, MIGHT HAVE,
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WOULD LIKE TO SEE, PLEASE GET THEM TO US SO THAT WE CAN HAVE THOSE WORKED OUT BEFORE IT COMES BACK TO YOU, UH, AT THE NEXT MEETING ON THE 28TH.AND THAT'LL BE ALONG WITH, UM, A CONSIDERATION FOR THE ZONING ITEM.
AND SO I, I'LL JUST SHARED, UH, AT LEAST IN THIS SESSION, THAT, UH, I DID ASK FOR, UH, KIND OF WHAT IS A MAX HEIGHT, A REASONABLE HEIGHT FOR, FOR THE BUILDING.
UM, YOU KNOW, REALLY KIND OF BEING REALLY CLOSE TO KIND OF WHAT YOU WOULD SEE IN A, IN A TWO STORY RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY AS FAR AS, UH, HEIGHT IN GENERAL TERMS. UM, I, I DON'T THINK IT'S THE, UH, THE SOME TYPE OF MONSTROSITY BUILDINGS THAT, THAT PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU HEAR A WAREHOUSE, THAT'S, THAT'S KIND OF WHAT THEY ENVISION AND I DON'T THINK IT'S ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
UM, IF THERE'S ANY OTHER TYPES OF MAXIMUM SIZE, YEAH, YOU COULD DO A MAX, I MEAN TRAFFIC STUDY, YOU COULD DO SOME TYPE OF MAX SIZE.
NOW KEEP IN MIND I THINK THERE'S SOME, THE TWO FRONT BUILDINGS ARE PURPOSELY BUILT LARGER IN A SENSE.
SO, BUT IF THERE'S SOME MAX SIZE PLEASE, UM, IN WRITING, CAN YOU FORWARD THAT TO RICK AND, AND, AND, UH, MS. FOSTER, IF THERE'S ANY, ANY OF THOSE TYPE OF CONCERNS.
ALSO, PARTICULARLY, I THINK THERE'S A LARGE PIPELINE QUARTER THAT DISSECTS THIS PROPERTY AND, AND, UM, AND SO PHYSICALLY AND I THINK CONTRACTUALLY AND LEGALLY, NOBODY COULD PUT A SITE THERE UNLESS THEY WANNA MAKE A TRIANGLE LOGISTICS TYPE OF BUILDING.
UM, SO, SO IT ACTUALLY KIND OF IS AN, AN ADDITIONAL HINDRANCE TO PREVENT, UH, LARGE SCALE, UH, LOGISTICS TYPE WAREHOUSE.
AND THERE'S NO ALSO, ADDITIONALLY, I THINK THERE'S NO PROVISIONS FOR ANY TYPE OF EITHER BELOW GRADE OR ABOVE GRADE TYPE OF, UH, LOADING DOCKS FOR 18 WHEELERS OR ANY, ANYTHING LIKE THAT FROM, FROM MY UNDERSTANDING.
IS THAT CORRECT? WE, WE DO HAVE SOME LANGUAGE FOR LOADING DOCKS AND EVEN FOR THE, UH, ROLL UP DOORS AND THAT KIND OF THING TO BUFFER THOSE FROM, FROM SITE AND SCREENING FOR LAY DOWN YARDS AND STUFF.
SO THEY CAN BE THERE, THEY JUST HAVE TO BE BUFFERED.
YEAH, WELL THE ROLLUP DOORS YES.
THEY WON'T ON YOU SAID LOADING DOCKS, LOADING DOCKS, SET GRADE, SO LIKE FOR BOX TRUCKS AND REGULAR TRUCKS, NOT THE ONES THAT YOU WOULD SEE, UM, WHERE YOU HAVE, YOU KNOW, GO BELOW GRADE GO GO BELOW GRADE.
AND YES, NOT, NOT THAT THERE'S NO ACCOMMODATIONS FOR, FOR REGULAR 18 WHEELER AUTISTIC TYPE TRAFFIC.
SO, AND THIS IS WHY IT DOESN'T FIT WELL INTO LI, BUT THAT'S THE CLOSEST WE HAVE.
ALRIGHT, SO WITH THAT BEING NO ONE ELSE DESIRING TO SPEAK ON NOW CLOSEST PUBLIC HEARING CONCERNING THE REZONING OF APPROXIMATELY 42.06 ACRES OF LAND LOCATED ON THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF I 10 AND SHOLAN ROAD FROM AN OR ZONING DISTRICT TO AN ALLI ZONING DISTRICT.
[a. Conduct a public hearing concerning a request to amend the City of Baytown official zoning map to rezone approximately 4.6 acres located at 705 Lanier Drive, legally described as TR 1, TR 1B & TR 12R-1 Abstract 66 W Scott & TR 57C Abstract 840 H Whiting Abstract 842 H Whiting, Harris County, Texas, from an Open Space/Recreation (OR) Zoning District to a General Commercial (GC) Zoning District.]
WE'LL MOVE ON NOW TO ITEM FOUR A WHERE WE ARE GONNA CONDUCT, UH, A PUBLIC HEARING, UH, REGARDING, AND I'LL GO AHEAD AND OPEN IT UP AND I'LL CALL TO ORDER THIS PUBLIC HEARING CONCERNING A REQUEST TO AMEND THE CITY OF BAY TOWN'S OFFICIAL ZONING MAP TO REZONE APPROXIMATELY 4.6 ACRES LOCATED AT 7 0 5 LANIER, UH, DRIVE FROM AN OPEN SPACE RECREATIONAL ZONING DISTRICT TO A GENERAL COMMERCIAL ZONING DISTRICT.I WOULD LIKE NOW, UH, STAFF TO SUMMARIZE THE SUBJECT MATTER OF THIS PUBLIC HEARING.
AGAIN, HELLO, MR. MAYOR AND COUNSEL.
UH, THIS IS A REZONING FROM OPEN SPACE RECREATION TO GENERAL COMMERCIAL TO ACCOMMODATE THE REBUILD OF OUR ANIMAL SHELTER.
UM, THIS, UH, AREA WAS ALL OPEN SPACE RECREATION.
WE, UM, HAVE BEEN WORKING AS YOU KNOW, TO ALIGN OUR FUTURE LAND USE PLAN WITH OUR ZONING OR VICE VERSA.
AND THIS IS AN OPTION, UH, AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO DO THAT.
UH, PUBLIC SERVICES ARE ACTUALLY ALLOWED TO BE IN, IN THIS PARTICULAR ZONE.
BUT AGAIN, TRYING TO ALIGN THOSE TWO, UH, OUR VISIONING DOCUMENTS AND SO FORTH, WE THINK THAT'S APPROPRIATE.
UM, THE AMOUNT OF ACREAGE YOU SEE HERE FOR, UM, THE REZONING DOES COVER THE PROJECT ITSELF.
WE DID NOT GO THROUGH, THANK YOU.
WE DID NOT GO THROUGH TO REZONE THE TOTAL, UH, AREA BECAUSE MOST OF IT IS EITHER ENCUMBERED IN THE FLOODWAY, THE FLOODPLAIN, UM, OR IT'S PART OF OUR TRAIL SYSTEM.
SO WE THOUGHT THAT IT WAS JUST PRUDENT TO JUST DO THE BUILDING IF FOR THINGS, IF SOMETHING CHANGED IN THE FUTURE AND WE WANTED TO REZONE AGAIN.
OF COURSE THAT COMES BACK BEFORE YOU.
AND NO ONE IS DESIRING TO SPEAK.
I MEAN, WHO'S THE APPLICANT, IF YOU DON'T MIND? HIS NAME IS RICHARD DAVIS.
AH, MR. DAVIS, YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE? NO, I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THAT THEN.
THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY ABOUT THAT.
HE DID ALL THE HEAVY LIFTING OF, OF COURSE.
YOU MADE AN OUTSTANDING ARGUMENT FOR YOUR CASE, SIR.
THERE BEING NO ONE ELSE DESIRE TO SPEAK ON OUT CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING CONCERNING THE REZONING PROPERTY.
4.6 ACRES LOCATED AT 7 0 5 LANIER DRIVE FROM OR ZONING DISTRICT TO A GC ZONING DISTRICT.
[b. Consider an ordinance amending the City of Baytown's official zoning map to rezone approximately 4.6 acres located at 705 Lanier Drive, legally described as TR 1, TR 1B & TR 12R-1, Abstract 66, W Scott & TR 57C, Abstract 840. H Whiting Abstract 842, H Whiting, Harris County, Texas, from an Open Space/Recreation (OR) Zoning District to a General Commercial (GC) Zoning District.]
ASSUMING WE HAVE A FOUR A FOUR B, CONSIDER AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE CITY OF BAY TOWN'S OFFICIAL ZONING MAP TO REZONE APPROXIMATELY 4.6 ACRES LOCATED AT 7 0 5 LANIER DRIVE, LEGALLY DESCRIBED AS TRACK ONE, TRACK ONE B AND TRACK 12 R DASH ONE ABSTRACT 66 W SCOTT AND TRACK 57[01:25:01]
C ABSTRACT EIGHT 40 H WHITING ABSTRACT 8 42 H WHITING HARRIS COUNTY, TEXAS FROM OPEN SPACE RECREATIONAL ZONING DISTRICT TO A DC ZONING DISTRICT.MS. FOSTER, ANYTHING TO EXPRESS ON THIS ONE? THE ONLY THING I'D LIKE TO ADD IS THE, UH, PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION DID FEEL THAT, UH, THIS ZONING, UH, AMENDMENT MET ALL SEVEN OF THE CRITERIA FOR REZONING AND THEY RECOMMENDED APPROVAL.
ALRIGHT, I WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION, UH, FOR APPROVAL OF ITEM FOUR B AS WRITTEN.
MOVE TO APPROVE ITEM FOUR B, SAY MOTION AND SECOND.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OR TO BE ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF ITEM FOUR B IS PRESENTED, PLEASE SAY AYE.
[a. Conduct a public hearing concerning proposed amendments to the text of the Unified Land Development Code, Baytown, Texas, to add a non-residential use for small box discount retail, to define such use, to establish conditions for such use, and to distinguish such use from other uses defined in the Unified Land Development Code.]
UH, FIVE A ON I CALL ORDER THIS PUBLIC HEARING CONCERNING THE PROPOSED AMENDMENTS TO THE TEXT OF THE UNIFIED LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE BAYTOWN, TEXAS TO ADD A NON-RESIDENTIAL USE FOR SMALL BOX DISCOUNT RETAIL TO DEFINE SUCH USE TO ESTABLISH CONDITIONS FOR SUCH USE AND DISTINGUISH SUCH USE FROM OTHER USES DEFINED IN THE, THE, UH, UNIFIED LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.I WILL NOW, I WILL NOW LIKE TO REQUEST THE STAFF, UH, SUMMARIZE THE SUBJECT MATTER OF THIS PUBLIC HEARING.
SO THIS, THIS WAS AN APPLICATION THAT WAS STARTED BY MR. RICHARD, RICHARD DAVIS AS WELL MM-HMM
UM, TO LOOK AT OUR SMALL BOX DISCOUNT RETAILS AND TO SEE THE IMPACTS THAT THEY HAVE, UH, HAD IN THE CITY OF BAYTOWN.
SO WE HAVE, WE HAVE A TOTAL OF ABOUT 18, UM, DIFFERENT RETAIL PRODUCTS THAT FIT THE DEFINITION, UH, IN AND WITHIN BAYTOWN.
AND SO WE LOOKED AT THINGS LIKE DISTANCING THEM FROM, UM, OTHER AREAS, TRYING REQUIRING THEM TO HAVE DIFFERENT TYPES OF PRODUCTS INSIDE THE STORES, UM, AND, UH, LOOKING AT HOW THEY FIT NEXT TO A NEIGHBORHOOD OR ADJACENT TO NEIGHBORHOODS.
SO WE WENT THROUGH THE PROCESS, UH, DID A LOT OF RESEARCH AND RECEIVED ACTUALLY LOTS OF COMMENTS AND LOTS OF SPIRITED DEBATE WITH OUR PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.
AND ULTIMATELY THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED NOT TO, UH, APPROVE THE APPLICATION AS WE HAD WRITTEN IT.
UM, BUT THEY DID WANT US TO LOOK AT, UH, RESTRICTING THIS TYPE OF RETAIL USE FROM OUR SAN JACINTO OVERLAY DISTRICT.
UM, YOU, YOU MAY REMEMBER ABOUT A YEAR AGO, WE DID ESTABLISH THE SAN JACINTO OVERLAY DISTRICT THAT COVERS ROUGHLY 400 ACRES IN AND AROUND THE SAN JACINTO BOULEVARD.
AND THAT, UM, UM, DISTRICT OR OVERLAY DISTRICT WAS DESIGNED TO, TO BE SOMETHING EXTREMELY DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE HAVE IN BAYTOWN, UM, TO HAVE SOME REALLY GOOD MIXED USE, UM, VERTICAL AND HORIZONTALLY, UH, DIFFERENT PROJECTS IN THE CITY AND HAVE INCREASED STANDARDS FROM, UM, LIGHTING AND, UM, PARKING, SHARED PARKING AND AND LANDSCAPING, THAT KIND OF THING.
AND SO PNZ DID ASK FOR US TO REVISIT, UM, THIS AND ESTABLISH OR, OR PROHIBIT, PROHIBIT THIS USE FROM THE OVERLAY.
SO WHAT YOU HAVE IN YOUR PACKET UNDER THE, UM, WORK SESSION, YOU DO HAVE THE ORIGINAL APPLICATION, BUT UNDER YOUR CONSIDERATION YOU DO HAVE PLAN AND ZONING, UM, COMMISSIONS, UH, RECOMMENDATION FOR, UH, THE OVERLAY DISTRICT.
ANY QUESTIONS? ALRIGHT, ANY QUESTIONS FOR MS. FOSTER REGARDING THIS ITEM? NO QUESTIONS BUT COMMENT.
UM, I JUST WANTED THANK Y'ALL FOR REVISITING THAT ITEM AND I THINK DOING THE AWAY COMPLETELY WITH ANY ADDITIONAL SMALL BOX STORES OR RETAIL, UH, I, I THINK THAT WAS A LITTLE TOO MUCH CONSIDERING SOME OF THE AREAS, UM, ESPECIALLY DURING THIS PANDEMIC, HAVE BEEN VERY VITAL TO SOME OF THE NEIGHBORHOODS.
SO I APPRECIATE YOU ALL TAKING ANOTHER LOOK AT HOW THAT WAS GOING TO BE RESTRICTED COMMENT, MAYOR.
AND I KIND OF ECHO THAT IN A WAY BECAUSE REPRESENTING MY PARTICULAR DISTRICT, YOU KNOW, WITHOUT SOME SMALL BOX RETAIL, WE WOULDN'T HAVE ANYTHING IN SEVERAL OF THE STRIP CENTERS.
AND, UH, SO I'M, I'M, I ACTUALLY THINK P AND Z GOT THIS ONE RIGHT.
AND EVEN THOUGH I'M A LITTLE CONCERNED, YOU KNOW, ABOUT HOW WE CAN, YOU KNOW, SOMEWHAT CONCLUDE THAT, THAT THESE ARE GOOD FOR OTHER OKAY.
AND OTHER AREAS OF BAYTOWN EXCEPT THIS ONE PARTICULAR AREA.
I'M NOT SURE HOW WE ARRIVE THERE, BUT WHICH SEEMS A LITTLE COUNTERINTUITIVE, BUT IF, IF THAT'S THE DIRECTION ON, ON CENT TO, OKAY.
UH, THERE IS NO ONE DESIRE OR THAT HAS SIGNED UP TO SPEAK, SO I WILL NOW, UH, CLOSE THIS PUBLIC HEARING CONCERNING PROPOSED AMENDMENTS TO THE TEXTS OF THE ULDC REGARDING NON-RESIDENTIAL USE FOR SMALL BOX DISCOUNT RETAIL IN THE AREA THAT IS THERE ON, ON THE MAP SHOWN BEFORE YOU.
[b. Consider an ordinance amending the text of the Unified Land Development Code, Baytown, Texas, to add a non-residential use for small box discount retail, to define such use, to establish conditions for such use, and to distinguish such use from other uses defined in the Unified Land Development Code.]
SO WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM FIVE B.CONSIDER ORDINANCE AMENDING THE TEXT OF THE ULDC CODE, BAYTOWN TEXAS TO ADD A NON-RESIDENT USE FOR SMALL BOX DISCOUNT RETAIL TO DEFINE SUCH USE TO ESTABLISH CONDITIONS FOR SUCH USE AND TO DISTINGUISH SUCH USE FROM OTHER USES DEFINED IN THE UNIFIED LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.
AND I THINK YOU ALREADY HEARD FROM MS. FOSTER.
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UH, WITH THAT I WOULD CON UM, I WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR ITEM FIVE B IS WRITTEN FIVE B MOTION, SECOND MOTION, AND SECOND.ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? ITEM FIVE B IS PRESENTED, PLEASE SAY AYE.
[a. Conduct a public hearing concerning proposed amendments to the text of the Unified Land Development Code, Baytown, Texas, to add a non-residential use for travel centers, to define such use, to establish conditions for such use, and to distinguish such use from other uses defined in the Unified Land Development Code.]
WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM SIX A AND WHAT WOULD, YOU KNOW, ANOTHER PUBLIC HEARING I NOW CALL TO ORDER THIS PUBLIC HEARING CONCERNING PROPOSED AMENDMENTS TO THE TEXT, TO THE TEXT OF UNIFIED, UH, LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE BASED ON TEXAS TO ADD A NON-RESIDENTIAL USE FOR TRAVEL CENTERS TO DEFINE SUCH USE TO ESTABLISH CONDITIONS FOR SUCH USE AND TO DISTINGUISH SUCH USE FROM OTHER USES TO FIND IN THE UNIFIED LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.I'LL NOW ASK STAFF TO SUMMARIZE THE SUBJECT MATTER TO THIS PUBLIC HEARING.
UM, I THOUGHT I'D GIVE MS MS. FOSTER A BREAK HERE.
SHE'S GETTING A LITTLE PARCHED.
SO, UM, WE, UH, WOULD LIKE TO IN LINE WITH SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT TONIGHT IS TO PROVIDE YOU WITH A NEW LAND USE.
UM, WE'VE BEEN APPROACHED BY A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT APPLICANTS OVER THE YEARS AND, UM, HAVE FOUND THAT, UM, OUR LAND USE TABLE MIGHT BE A LITTLE LACKING IN, IN THE AREA OF, IN BETWEEN WHAT A GAS STATION IS CONSIDERED TODAY AND WHAT, UH, A TRUCK STOP IS CONSIDERED.
SO WHEN WE LOOKED AT, UH, SOME OPPORTUNITIES, WE, WE CHOSE TO LOOK TO PROVIDE THIS NEW TEXT AMENDMENT AS, UM, UH, AS A CHANCE TO SHOW THAT IN BETWEEN, UH, USE.
WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO OFFER HERE TODAY IS TO ASK FOR A TRAVEL CENTER TO BE, UM, TO DEFINE A TRAVEL CENTER WITHIN OUR, OUR ORDINANCE.
AND ALSO WITH THAT TRAVEL CENTER DEFINITION, WE WANTED TO ALSO ADD IN SOME LAND USE CON, UH, CONDITIONS.
AND THEN, UM, WITHIN THOSE LAND USE CONDITIONS, UM, RESTRICT CERTAIN, UM, AREAS TO WHERE TRAVEL CENTERS CAN ACTUALLY BE HELD VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT WE DO RIGHT NOW WITH TRUCK STOPS.
UM, AS YOU KNOW, TRUCK STOPS CAN ONLY, UH, OCCUR IN GENERAL COMMERCIAL ZONING DISTRICT 2000 FEET RADIUS FROM THE INTERSECTION OF, UM, THOMPSON ROAD AND I 10.
AND AS IT'S SHOWN HERE UP ON THE SCREEN IS THAT THESE ARE THE LOCATIONS THAT WE WOULD PROPOSE WHERE THE TRAVEL CENTER WOULD BE ALLOWED.
UM, SOME OF THE OTHER RESTRICTIONS AS WHAT WE WOULD SAY FOR A TRAVEL CENTER AND WHAT WOULD MAKE IT DISTINCTLY DIFFERENT THAN WHAT A TRUCK STOP IS, IS THAT WE WOULD ADD FOR A MINIMUM BUILDING SIZE REQUIREMENT OF 8,000 SQUARE FEET OR MORE.
UM, WE WOULD ALSO ADD THAT, UH, SORRY, THAT, UH, THE SITES WOULD HAVE TO HAVE AT LEAST A MINIMUM OF A HUNDRED FEET OF, UM, FRONTAGE ALONG THESE LOCATIONS AS SHOWN UP ON THE SCREEN.
UH, THE, THE TRUCK, UH, OR TRAVEL CENTER WOULD HAVE TO HAVE FUELING AREAS FOR DOMESTIC VEHICLES AND FOR COMMERCIAL VEHICLES AND THOSE AREAS MUST BE SEPARATED.
THEY CAN'T BE IN, UH, TOGETHER DUE TO THE FACT THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, COMMERCIAL TRUCKING THAT COMES IN WOULD HAVE INTERACTION WITH, UH, DOMESTIC VEHICLES.
WE WANT TO MAKE SURE EVERYONE'S SAFE ON SITE.
UM, WE WOULD ALSO SAY THAT, UH, THE, WE WOULD LIMIT THE NUMBER OF, UH, COMMERCIAL VEHICLE SPACINGS FOR, UM, FOR DIESEL FUELING, UH, POSITIONS TO EIGHT.
UM, WE CAME UP WITH THAT NUMBER, UH, WANTING TO AT LEAST ALLOW FOR THERE TO BE, UM, FUELING, UH, THERE ON SITE, BUT ALSO TO LIMIT THE, THE NUMBER OF TRUCKS THAT WOULD BE ALLOWED ON SITE.
UM, AND THEN WE ALSO WOULD ASK THAT, UM, WHEN CLOSE TO, UM, ADJACENT TO RESIDENTIAL AREAS THAT THEY WOULD HAVE TO BE, UM, SCREENED APPROPRIATELY, UM, STAFF, UH, THAT'S, UH, THE DISCUSSION AT THIS PARTICULAR TIME, BUT IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM FOR YOU.
ALRIGHT, WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF REGARDING THIS ITEM? MAY I, I DO.
SO, UM, I KNOW ON HERE IT SAYS, UM, LIMITED PARKING, UM, AND LEMME SEE, UM, PARKING RESTRICTIONS FOR COMMERCIAL VEHICLES, SOME, SO FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, JUST SO IT IS CLEAR, UM, TO ANY ANYBODY ELSE, UM, FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, THERE WILL NOT BE ANY OVERNIGHT PARKING, WHICH IS USUALLY ALLOWED IN THE USUAL TRUCK STOPS, CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT.
AND IN TERMS OF PARKING RESTRICTIONS, THERE IS A LIMITED AMOUNT OF TIME THAT THESE, YOU KNOW, 18 WHEELERS OR COMMERCIAL VEHICLES WILL BE ALLOWED TO BE AT OUR ON SITE.
SO IF THEY GO OVER A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF WHATEVER IS DESIGNATED, THEN THEY WOULD BE ASKED TO LEAVE.
IS IS, AM I UNDERSTANDING, HOW WILL THAT BE REGULATED IF, IF, LET'S SAY THEY'RE ONLY SUPPOSED TO BE THERE FOR 30 MINUTES, I'M JUST THROWING A NUMBER OUT AND THEY'RE THERE FOR 45 MINUTES, AN HOUR, HOUR AND A HALF, HOW WILL THAT BE REGULATED? I MEAN, IS I'M ASSUMING IT'S GOING TO BE THE TRAVEL CENTER OWNER, BUT THAT'S RIGHT.
AND AND THAT IS PART OF THE, THE ISSUES WITH HOW, HOW ARE YOU GONNA POLICE IT? RIGHT.
AND THAT WOULD BE LEFT UP TO THE,
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THE TRAVEL CENTER.AND THEN AT THAT TIME, IF THEY WERE TO, UM, BE IN, UH, NOT IN COMPLIANCE WITH THAT MM-HMM
SO, UM, ONE OF MY OTHER CONCERNS WOULD BE, OF COURSE, TRAFFIC WITHIN THE AREA.
WE KNOW THAT THAT IS A HOTSPOT FOR TRAFFIC, ANYTHING COMING ON AND OFF I 10, ESPECIALLY WHEN THERE'S AN ACCIDENT OR SOMETHING HAPPENING AT, AT THE SAN JACINTO RIVER, UM, I, I'M JUST CONCERNED ABOUT ANY ADDED TRAFFIC.
UM, BECAUSE IF THEY'RE GONNA COME OUT ON, UM, WHAT IS IT, THE FOUR CORNER THAT THEY EXIT, NOT JUST ON THE FEEDER, BUT ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE ROAD, THE CARS ARE POTENTIALLY JUST GONNA BE STUCK THERE BECAUSE THEY WON'T BE ABLE TO ACCESS ONTO THE FEEDER.
SO I'M KIND OF WORRIED ABOUT THE TRAFFIC.
UM, I I'M GONNA SAY THAT I, I'M VERY FAMILIAR WITH THE, UM, THE OWNERS, UM, OR, OR THE TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT THAT THIS NEW TRAVEL CENTER, UM, IS GOING TO BRING.
AND I'VE VISITED THEM A NUMBER OF TIMES IN OTHER STATES THAT I'VE TRAVELED TO.
AND I, I DON'T HAVE ANY ISSUES PER SE WITH THE ACTUAL, UM, OWNER OR THE TYPE OF FACILITY THAT'S GONNA BE THERE.
I'M JUST CONCERNED ABOUT THOSE, ESPECIALLY SINCE WE HAVE VERY SIMILAR ONES CLOSER TO THAT AREA THAT WE KNOW WE HAVE SOME, SOME CONCERNS IN TERMS OF WHAT HAPPENS TO THOSE OVERNIGHT FACILITIES.
SO THOSE ARE MY ONLY CONCERNS, JUST HOW, HOW IS THAT GONNA BE REGULATED AND THEN OF COURSE THE INCREASED TRAFFIC WITHIN THAT AREA.
AND THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WHY WE ONLY LI LIMITED, UH, UH, EIGHT, ALSO EIGHT PARKING SPACES FOR, UM, COMMERCIAL VEHICLES.
SO IT WOULD LIMIT THE, THE TIME THAT THEY WOULD ACTUALLY BE ON SITE.
AND THEN TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION IN REGARDS TO TRAFFIC IS THAT, UH, A TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS WOULD DEFINITELY BE INCLUDED AT ANY OF THESE LOCATIONS.
SO IF THERE WERE ANY NEW DEVICES OR THINGS THAT WOULD NEED TO MITIGATE, UM, THE INCREASED TRAFFIC THAT WOULD BE, UM, SHOWN WITHIN THAT, UH, ANALYSIS, HOW MANY, UM, HOW MANY I, I GUESS SINGLE VEHICLE NON-COMMERCIAL VEHICLES, HOW MANY PUMPS WILL BE THERE FOR NON-COMMERCIAL? WELL, IT COULD RANGE.
UH, WE, WE DIDN'T PUT A LIMITATION ON THAT.
WE DON'T KNOW AT THIS PARTICULAR TIME, UM, BECAUSE THIS WOULD JUST ALLOW THAT TRAVEL CENTER TO OCCUR IN THOSE LOCATIONS.
ALL WE SPECIFIED HERE IS THAT THE, THE LOCATION FOR DOMESTIC USE AND COMMERCIAL USE NEEDS TO BE SEPARATED.
WE PUT A LIMIT ON THE NUMBER OF PUMPS FOR DIESEL REFUELING TO BE EIGHT, AND THEN HOWEVER MANY THEY CAN FIT, UH, ON THE SITE, UM, RESPECTIVE OF, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER WORKS IN THE BUSINESS MODEL, WHATEVER COMPANY DOES COME OVER THERE TO, TO, TO USE IT IF THEY WERE TO, UH, OCCUPY THOSE SITES.
ALRIGHT, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ON THIS ITEM? SO THAT'S STAFF.
I'M ASSUMING THERE IS ONE PER, I THINK THERE IS ONE PERSON THAT HAS SIGNED UP TO SPEAK.
ALL, EVERYONE HEAR ME? GOOD? YES.
GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
ROBERT COSTELLO, 2015 SOUTH ASH COVE, HU, TEXAS 7 8 6 3 4.
UH, I'M WITH QUICKTRIP CORPORATION.
WE ARE ACTUALLY ONE OF THE, UH, POTENTIAL APPLICANTS THAT HAVE APPROACHED THE CITY, UH, WITH THIS REQUEST.
AND JUST WANTED TO TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO, FOR THOSE THAT ARE UNFAMILIAR WITH QUICKTRIP, GIVE YOU A UNDERSTANDING OF WHO QUICKTRIP IS, WHAT WE STAND FOR.
UM, QUICKTRIP IS A SEMI NATIONAL, UH, GASOLINE RETAIL CONVENIENCE COMPANY.
WE'VE GOT OVER 800 LOCATIONS ACROSS 13 MARKETS.
UH, WE'VE BEEN IN BUSINESS FOR OVER 60 YEARS.
WE STARTED IN TULSA, OKLAHOMA IN 1958.
UH, WE RECENTLY EXPANDED INTO THE CENTRAL TEXAS AREA ABOUT THREE YEARS AGO, AND WE'RE SLOWLY STARTING TO EXPAND ELSEWHERE.
WE'VE GOT ABOUT 150 PLUS LOCATIONS UP IN THE DFW AREA.
UM, AND UH, JUST WANTED TO BRING UP A COUPLE, UH, A COUPLE POINTS.
WE ACTUALLY HAVE SPECIFIC INTEREST IN THE I 10 AND MAIN LOCATION AND, UH, WANTED TO BRING UP, UH, SPEAK TO A COUPLE POINTS THAT, UH, PLANNING, PLANNING COMMISSION HAD HAD STATED.
UH, AND THEY ACTUALLY RECOMMENDED DENIAL OF THIS.
UM, AND, AND WE WEREN'T PRESENT DURING THOSE HEARINGS, UH, NOT BEING THE APPLICANT.
WE WEREN'T SURE IF THAT WAS NECESSARILY APPROPRIATE.
UH, BUT YOU GUYS, BEING THE DECISION MAKERS, WE WANTED TO, EXCUSE ME, WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE AND KIND OF LET YOU KNOW HOW, HOW WHAT WE WANTED TO DO HERE.
UM, THERE WERE THREE THINGS THAT PLANNING COMMISSION STATED, UH, WAS THEIR BIGGEST CONCERNS.
UH, THE FIRST ONE WAS DISTRESS ON SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOODS.
UM, WE SENT OUT OVER 500 LETTERS TO THE WEST MEADOWS NEIGHBORHOOD
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JUST EAST OF THIS, OF, OF THIS PROPERTY AT I 10 IN MAINE.UH, WE ARE, WE'RE ARE AWARE OF, UH, SORT OF A HISTORY OF THIS PROPERTY AND THAT IT WAS, UH, TRIED TO GET, WAS ATTEMPTED TO REZONE TO THE LI A FEW YEARS BACK.
AND OBVIOUSLY WITH THE, THE TONE OF THE EARLIER MEETING OR EARLIER AGENDA ITEM, UH, LIGHT INDUSTRIAL AND WAREHOUSING IS NOT NECESSARILY WELCOME AT THIS TIME OR EVEN IN THIS LOCATION, UH, IN THE CITY OF BAYTOWN.
SO, UH, THAT'S NOT THE APPROACH THAT WE WANTED TO TAKE, UM, GIVEN, GIVEN WHAT WE WANTED TO DO HERE.
SO WE SENT OUT OVER 500 LETTERS.
WE HOSTED A NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING IN FEBRUARY, UM, AND WE HAD ONE PERSON, ONE, ONE HOMEOWNER SHOW UP AND, UH, THEY HAD VERY MINIMAL CONCERNS.
WE WERE ABLE TO ADDRESS THOSE.
COUNCILMAN JOHNSON ACTUALLY ATTENDED AS WELL.
UH, AND UH, I'D LIKE HIM TO SAY A FEW WORDS IF HE, IF HE MIGHT, UH, THAT'S WHY ONE PERSON SHOWED UP,
BUT, UH, AS, AS, AS MY TIME RUNS OUT HERE, THERE'S A HOT THINGS CAN I DID ONE MORE TIME.
I DID WANNA TOUCH ON OH YEAH, DELY, GO AHEAD.
DID WANNA TOUCH ON A FEW THINGS.
THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF TALK ABOUT TRAFFIC AND SO I WANTED TO MENTION A, A BEING THE, THE NATURE OF A CONVENIENCE STORE OR A GAS STATION BUSINESS.
UM, YOU LOOK AT OUR TRAFFIC GENERATION AND, AND ALMOST 80% OF THE TRAFFIC THAT WE GENERATE IS CALLED PASS BY TRIPS.
SO THOSE ARE TRIPS, THOSE ARE VEHICLES, THOSE ARE CARS THAT ARE ALREADY ON THE ROAD THAT JUST HAPPEN TO STOP BY AS MUCH AS WE'D LIKE TO SAY, HEY, LET'S GO TO QUICKTRIP, LET'S GO TO THE GAS STATION.
THAT'S NOT REALLY WHAT HAPPENS.
IT'S, YOU'RE ON YOUR WAY TO WORK, YOU'RE ON YOUR WAY HOME FROM WORK, AND YOU HAPPEN TO STOP BY.
SO THE TRAFFIC GENERATED IS ACTUALLY MINIMAL WHEN YOU CONSIDER THE NET EFFECT OF WHAT THAT TRAFFIC IS.
UM, AND THEN THE OTHER BIG THING WAS, WAS, UH, YOU KNOW, BEING THESE ARE GATEWAY, GATEWAY, UH, SCENIC GATEWAYS TO THE COMMUNITY.
WHAT WOULD THAT MEAN? WELL, THIS IS, YOU KNOW, THIS IS 20 PLUS ACRES OF PROPERTY THAT I, THAT I KNOW HAS BEEN TRIED TO BE DEVELOPED FOR MANY, MANY YEARS NOW, AND THE CITY'S BEEN BEEN ADVOCATING FOR THAT.
BUT THERE'S A LOT OF HURDLES ASSOCIATED WITH THIS PROPERTY THAT, THAT ARE, UH, REALLY COST DISADVANTAGE TO TRY TO DEVELOP IT.
WE ARE PROPOSING AND ARE ABLE AND WILLING TO BRING SEWER TO ALL THIS 21 ACRES AND THAT WILL OPEN THE DOOR TO FURTHER DEVELOPMENT AND FURTHER NEEDS AND USES FOR BUSINESSES THAT THE, THAT THE NEIGHBORING COMMUNITY NEEDS.
UM, SO WITH THAT KIND OF LIKE, UH, I LIKE TO THINK OF IT AS AS FIELD OF DREAMS, YOU KNOW, IF YOU BUILD IT, THEY WILL COME.
QUIKTRIP IS SO CONFIDENT IN, IN OUR FACILITY, IN OUR DEVELOPMENT, UH, THAT WE ARE, WE ARE ASSUMING A LOT OF RISK WITH BUYING THIS ENTIRE PROPERTY, BUT WE WILL CONTROL IT AND, AND, YOU KNOW, WE WILL HAVE THE ABILITY TO, TO SAY YES AND NO TO WHO WANTS TO COME IN HERE.
AND, AND BY BRINGING SEWER TO THE AREA, THAT'S GONNA MAKE IT THAT MUCH MORE ATTRACTIVE, UM, THAN IT IS TODAY.
AND, AND, AND SO MY UNDERSTANDING IT'S 19 ACRES, IS IT IT'S OVER, IT'S 27 ACRES.
SO THE QUICKTRIP FACILITY WOULD COMPRISE THE SORT OF WESTERN ABOUT SEVEN ACRES.
WE WERE CURRENTLY, RIGHT NOW WE'RE PROPOSING TO WRAP THE EXISTING GAS STATION, UM, WHICH WE'VE ACTUALLY RECENTLY PUT UNDER CONTRACT TO ACQUIRE.
SO WE'RE HOPING TO BE ABLE TO ELIMINATE THAT, THAT BUSINESS THAT'S NOT WELL MAINTAINED AND IS KIND OF AN EYESORE TO THE GATEWAY OF, OF BAYTOWN.
UM, BUT THERE'S A LOT OF HURDLES WITH THAT AND THAT'S, YOU KNOW, NOT, NOT THE TIME FOR THAT, BUT, UH, THAT IS OUR HOPE AND INTENT TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT.
UH, BUT EITHER WAY, WE'RE, WE'RE STILL INTERESTED IN THIS LOCATION AND THIS PROPERTY, UM, AND WE FEEL THAT THIS WAS THE BEST APPROACH THE TEXT AMENDMENT RATHER THAN A FULL REZONE, UM, TO ALLOW OUR USE.
AND SO WITH THAT, BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS OR, OKAY.
WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. COSTELLO? COMMENT? COMMENT? YEAH, COMMENT.
WELL, YOU, AS HE SAID, I DID ATTEND THE MEETING.
IT SUGGESTED THAT THEY GET WITH THE RESIDENTS OF WEST MEADOWS AND EVEN THE PIEDMONT APARTMENT COMPLEX THAT'S ACROSS THE HIGHWAY.
AND MEETING WITH THEM, I WAS CONCERNED.
I ASKED A FEW QUESTIONS ALONG THE LINES OF, LET'S SAY YOU DO START THE SEWER PROJECT BRINGING THE SEWER TO THE PROPERTY, AND YOU FIND OUT IT'S GONNA COST TWICE AS MUCH $4 MILLION.
WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO? THEY SAID THEY WERE PREPARED TO DO THAT.
THEY ARE COMMITTED, FROM MY OPINION, FROM MY MEETING WITH THEM TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN.
THE OTHER THING THAT I LIKED, WE'VE ACTUALLY TURNED DOWN A TRUCK STOP FROM COMING IN HERE BECAUSE IT HAD A BAD REPUTATION NATIONALLY.
I WAS HOPING PERSONALLY YEARS AGO THAT
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WE COULD GET SOME TOWN HOMES, SOME APARTMENT COMPLEXES, SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES.THE DEVELOPERS AND THE MEETINGS THAT I'VE SIT IN SAID THERE'S NOT A MARKET FOR IT THERE WITH THEM WANTING TO COME IN AND WITH THE TRACK RECORD THAT THEY HAVE, AND EVERYONE KNOWS THAT I STRESS BEING A GOOD NEIGHBOR.
I SPECIFICALLY ASK THEM, SHOW ME THAT YOU'RE A GOOD NEIGHBOR.
HOW HAVE YOU BEEN A GOOD NEIGHBOR? ARE YOU GOING TO BUILD THIS FACILITY AND IN 10, 15 YEARS DECIDE YOU DON'T WANT IT ANYMORE AND SELL IT TO SOMEONE ELSE? SAID THEY DON'T DO THAT.
COULD WE, COULD I, COULD THEY COME BACK UP TO, IF YOU HAVE A QUESTION FOR 'EM? YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.
WHAT, WHAT EXACTLY DID YOU ALL TELL ME WHAT, UM, YOU DO WITH YOUR FACILITIES AS THEY AGE? SO ONE THING FOR QUICK TRIP THAT, THAT I FORGOT TO MENTION WAS THAT WE ARE PRIVATELY HELD EMPLOYEE OWNED.
EVERY SINGLE ONE OF OUR LOCATIONS, UH, IS CORPORATELY MANAGED.
AND SO WE BUILD OUR FACILITIES TO LAST.
AND WHAT WE DO IS, UH, EVERY PROBABLY 10 TO 12 YEARS, WE'LL COME IN AND WE'LL, WE'LL SPEND A LOT OF MONEY TO RENOVATE AND REMODEL OUR FACILITIES, TO BRING THEM UP TO DATE, UH, AND, AND, AND REVITALIZE THEM AS AS NEEDED AND AS OUR COMPANY AND OUR MODEL GROWS.
AND THE OTHER THING THAT I LIKE, THEY HIRE LOCAL, UM, WHEN THEY HIRE LOCAL, THEY ACTUALLY HELP CHILDREN GO TO COLLEGE.
AND IF THEY FINISH, I BELIEVE YOU ARE A STORY OF A, A SUCCESS STORY OF SOMEONE WHO ACTUALLY STARTED OUT THERE, GOT A DEGREE IN BIOLOGY OR SOME, SOMEWHERE ALONG THOSE LINES, AND THEY WANTED TO KEEP YOU ON.
SO THEY HIRED HIM ON AS IN THE POSITION THAT HE'S IN NOW.
I THINK THAT'S GREAT FOR OUR COMMUNITY.
UM, AND WITH IT BEING A GATEWAY TO THE CITY, I'M GOING TO SAY IT IS GOING TO BE AN UPGRADE FROM THE GAS STATION THAT'S THERE NOW, IN MY OPINION.
ANY, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? ALRIGHT, SO WITH THAT, I WILL NOW CLOSE THIS PUBLIC HEARING, UH, THERE BEING NO ONE ELSE DESIRING TO SPEAK ON, UM, ON ILO THE PUBLIC HEARING CONCERNING PROPOSED AMENDMENTS TO THE TEXT OF THE ULDC REGARDING NON-RESIDENTIAL USE FOR TRAVEL CENTERS.
[b. Consider an ordinance amending the Unified Land Development Code of the Code of Ordinances, Baytown, Texas, to add a non-residential use for travel centers, to define such use, to establish conditions for such use, and to distinguish such use from other uses defined in the Unified Land Development Code.]
MOVE ON TO ITEM SIX B, CONSIDERED AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE UNIFIED LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE OF THE CODE OF ORDINANCES BAY ON TEXAS TO ADD A NON-RESIDENTIAL USE FOR TRAVEL CENTERS TO DEFINE SUCH USE TO ESTABLISH CONDITIONS FOR SUCH USE AND TO DISTINGUISH SUCH USE FROM OTHER USES DEFINED IN THE ULDC.SO I'D ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR ITEM SIX B, A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM SIX B.
SIR, BEFORE YOU GO ON, UH, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO, I KNOW THAT, UH, THE GENTLEMAN DID SPEAK OF, UH, PLANNING, ZONING, UH, DENYING IT MM-HMM
AND I JUST WANTED TO KIND OF FURTHER EXPLAIN SOME OF THE REASONS THEY DID.
SO THE PLANNING AND ZONING, THE ONLY THING I WANTED TO ADD, UM, IS THAT THEY DID END UP, UH, DENYING THE, THIS, THIS PARTICULAR, UH, REQUEST.
AND THE REASONS BEHIND THAT WERE JUST, AS THE OTHER GENTLEMAN DID SAY, IS THAT THE IMPACTS OF THE LOCATION OF ADJACENT NEIGHBORHOODS, UM, THEY ALSO DECIDED OR DISCUSSED TRAFFIC GENERATED BY THE PROSPECTIVE TRAVEL CENTER AND THE IMPACT TO THE CITY'S IMAGE IN RELATION TO THE SCENIC GATEWAYS.
SO I JUST WANTED TO SAY IS, UM, THEY FELT THAT THERE WERE ENOUGH OTHER SITES WITHIN THE CITY AND OTHER, UH, OTHER TRAVEL CENTER TYPE SITES THAT WE, THEY WEREN'T, UH, THINKING THAT WE NEEDED TO HAVE THOSE ANYMORE AT THESE PARTICULAR LOCATIONS.
AND THEY JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU HEARD THEIR VOICE.
LET, LET ME ASK YOU, YOU THINK THAT, THAT THERE WAS A, A PERCEPTION WHEN YOU'D CALL TRAVEL CENTER AND THEN WE, YOU CAN USE THE TERM TRUCK STOP, SO EVERYBODY GETS A PERCEPTION WHEN YOU HEAR THAT MM-HMM
RIGHT? AND SO DO YOU THINK THAT SOME OF THAT IS A CAUSE OF WHY THERE'S EITHER DENIAL OR NOT? AND UNTIL IT ALMOST SEEMS LIKE WE'VE HAD MULTIPLE CASES TONIGHT WHERE IT GOES TO P AND Z AND THEN AFTER THE FACT THERE'S MITIGATION OF ISSUES IN A SENSE, AND THEN WE, THEN WE WIND UP WITH A TOTALLY DIFFERENT PROJECT MM-HMM
OR PLAN? IT COULD HAVE BEEN, YEAH, BECAUSE I THINK FROM A, THEY, THEY WEREN'T LOOKING AT, UM, UH, AN EXAMPLE.
UM, THEY WERE MORE SEEING IT FROM JUST THE TEXT AMENDMENT ITSELF.
SO, SO MY QUESTION WOULD BE IT SEEMS LIKE, UH, IF IT'S A DEVELOPMENT OR IF IT'S EVEN TEXT AMENDMENT, IS THAT, SHOULDN'T THE ITEM COME? THERE'S A PRESENTATION, THERE'S COMMENT MM-HMM
AND THEN THERE'S NO DECISION MADE, THEN TAKE THAT INPUT THEN IN A FOLLOW UP P AND Z MEETING, THEN THERE'S A DECISION BE MADE.
UM, IF THEY JUST GET IT AND THEN THEY MAKE IT WITH WHATEVER WAS PRESENTED TO THEM, AND THEN IT'S A UP OR DOWN VOTE, THEN IT, THEN OBVIOUSLY THERE'S AN APPEALS PROCESS THAT COMES TO COUNSEL AND THEN WE CAN KIND OF START THINGS ALL OVER IN A SENSE.
BUT, UH, IT JUST CERTAINLY SEEMS LIKE IF THEY CAN HAVE KIND OF A DISCUSSION, PRESENTATION OF A PROJECT OR AMENDMENT OR WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE, AND THEN IT'D BE REVISITED AT, AT A LATER MEETING WITH P AND Z WITH, I KNOW THAT PEOPLE WANT TO GET, GET THINGS THROUGH, BUT I DON'T WANT TO KEEP HAVING P AND Z DENY OR, OR HAVE THINGS.
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ADJUSTED AND THEN IT COMES TO US AS A DENIAL.SO IT'S MAYBE SOMETHING THAT WE CAN MANAGE.
I KNOW RIGHT NOW IT'S A LITTLE BIT HARDER WITH THE CURRENT ENVIRONMENT, BUT, UM, I THINK I'D LIKE TO SEE THAT TYPE OF IMPROVEMENT IF WE CAN, IF TIME DOES ALLOW YES, MS. FOSTER, I SAID THAT, SO THIS PARTICULAR APPLICATION DID NOT CHANGE.
THIS IS THE APPLICATION THAT WENT TO PZ NO, IT'S FINE.
PNZP AND Z DOES HAVE TWO DIFFERENT HEARINGS, TWO DIFFERENT MONTHS.
SO IT DOESN'T GO TO P AND Z JUST ONE TIME.
UM, SO THERE, IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, IT IS A TEXT AMENDMENT AND THERE IS NO PRODUCT OR PICTURES TO SHOW THEM WHAT THE TEXT AMENDMENT.
UH, WE DID TALK ABOUT, UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT THIS WOULD, WOULD LEAD TO AND THAT TYPE OF THING.
UM, BUT THIS IS THEIR ORIGINAL APPLICATION THAT WENT SO THERE'S NO, THERE, THERE'S NO, UH, CHANGE.
UH, THE ONLY ONE THAT WE'VE HAD THAT WENT IS THIS PARTICULAR, UH, ONE AT SHO.
AND, UH, THAT WAS, YOU KNOW, CALCULATED DECISION ON PNZ HAS SAID THEIR PIECE AND NOW IT GOES TO CITY COUNCIL.
THE APPLICANT GETS TO CONTINUE THEIR APPLICATION IF THEY WANT TO.
NO, I APPRECIATE THAT INFORMATION.
AND IT IS, IT IS JUST, UM, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A, THERE'S A, A OBJECTIVE FOR P AND Z MM-HMM
THEY ARE TASKED TO SEE WITH LANGUAGE AS PRESENTED.
DOES A PROJECT PRO DOES A DEVELOPMENT OR A PROJECT ON THE MERIT OF THAT? DOES IT FIT IN CURRENT CODE OR NOT? ABSOLUTELY.
AND THEIR DECISION IS, IS TO BE A, FROM A TECHNICAL STANDPOINT, AND THEN AT THAT POINT, DEPENDING ON THEIR DECISION, THEN IT COMES TO COUNSEL.
AND WE ARE THE DECIDING BODY IF WE BELIEVE ABSOLUTELY.
IF IT MEETS A CRITERIA OF THIS IS THE RIGHT THING TO DO FOR BAYTOWN OR NOT.
AND THE, THE REPORTS, IF YOU LOOK AT THE REPORTS, THEY, UH, INCLUDE THE REASON BEHIND, YOU KNOW, WHY THEY'VE DECIDED A RECOMMENDATION OR, OR A DENIAL AND SO FORTH.
OBVIOUSLY WE VALUE THEIR TIME.
UM, YOU KNOW, THERE, THERE'S, THERE'S DIFFERENT PURPOSES BETWEEN, UH, PLANNING AND ZONING AND CITY COUNCIL.
MAY I ASK ONE MORE QUESTION? UM, CAME TO ME AS YOU WERE SPEAKING.
SO BY US, UM, APPROVING THIS TEXT AMENDMENT, DOES IT OPEN THE OPPORTUNITIES FOR OTHER, UM, TRAVEL CENTERS WITHIN THIS CITY OF BAYTOWN? I MEAN, IS THIS THE ONLY LOCATION WE'RE APPROVING OR DOES THIS OPEN UP FOR ADDITIONAL THROUGHOUT THE CITY? AND WOULD WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO, UM, I, I GUESS DENY ANOTHER ONE OPENING? SO, AS, AS THE, UM, UM, ORDINANCE IS WRITTEN FOR YOU TONIGHT, THERE ARE THREE LOCATIONS MM-HMM
THAT WOULD ALLOW THIS TYPE OF TRAVEL CENTER WITHIN 1500, UM, FEET OF THE INTERSECTION AND ONLY WHERE THE LAND IS.
UM, LET'S SEE IF I CAN GO BACK ONLY WHERE THE LAND IS ZONED GENERAL COMMERCIAL.
SO IN THESE THREE, UM, THREE AREAS YOU HAVE HERE, YOU, YOU CAN SEE JUST FROM THE, FROM THE COLORS.
SO OF COURSE A TRAVEL CENTER WOULD NOT BE ALLOWED IN THE RESIDENTIAL, BUT IT COULD BE IN THE GENERAL COMMERCIAL AREAS IN THE RED, UH, WITHIN THAT CIRCLE.
AND SO SOME OF THE THINGS WE EVEN POST WITH, WITH P AND Z, IF YOU KNOW, DO YOU WANNA LOOK AT OTHER INTERSECTIONS? DO YOU WANNA ONLY DO ONE INTERSECTION? DO YOU WANNA CHANGE THESE INTERSECTIONS? DO YOU WANNA CHANGE WHAT THE, UM, PARAMETERS AROUND THE INTERSECTION? WE, WE WENT THROUGH ALL OF THOSE, UM, DIFFERENT, DIFFERENT OPTIONS FOR THEM.
UM, AND THEY STILL RECOMMENDED ENOUGH.
SECOND, THE MOTION, THE SIX P.
ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? WELL, WE HAD A MOTION THEN WE HAD TO SAY.
I HAD A JOHNSON WITH THE FIRST AND MR, JUST A SECOND.
ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? OKAY.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE ITEMS PRESENTED, PLEASE SAY AYE.
[a. Consider an ordinance awarding the Wayfinding Signage Project to Geograph Industries, Inc., for the construction and installation of wayfinding signage in Baytown.]
WE HAVE ITEM SEVEN A CONSIDER AN ORDINANCE AWARDING THE WAYFINDING SIGNAGE PROJECT TO GEOGRAPHIC INDUSTRIES INC.FOR THE CONSTRUCTION AND INSTALLATION OF WAYFINDING SIGNAGE IN BAYTOWN.
GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNSEL ABOUT TIME.
I WANNA GIVE YOU A BRIEF SUMMARY OF THE WAYFINDING SIGNAGE PROJECT 'CAUSE IT'S BEEN A WHILE SINCE IT'S BEEN DISCUSSED WAY FINDING SIGNS OR DIRECTIONAL SIGNS PLACED WITHIN THE COMMUNITY THAT, UM, GIVE DIRECTIONS AND POINT VISITORS AND COMMUNITY MEMBERS TO CERTAIN VENUES AND ATTRACTIONS THAT HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED.
BUT THE GREAT THING ABOUT IT IS IT ALSO SERVES AS A MARKETING TOOL TO MARKET THINGS LIKE PIRATE SPAY IF YOU DIDN'T KNOW IT WAS THERE.
AND IT ALSO HELPS WITH BRAND AWARENESS.
SO WE CONTRACTED WITH CIGNA STRATEGIES AND THEN DURING THE YEARS 2017 AND 2018, UH, USING TEXTILE STANDARDS AND THE CITY STANDARDS, UH, IDENTIFIED THE LOCATIONS THAT WILL BE ON THE SIGNS.
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UH, THE TEAM LOOKED AT THE SIGNS WHERE THEY WOULD BE LOCATED THROUGHOUT THE CITY, UH, EACH INTERSECTION AND HOW FAR FROM EACH INTERSECTION, AS WELL AS THEN USING COMMUNITY INPUT COUNCIL INPUT FOR THE SIGN DESIGNS.SO YOU SEE HERE THE TWO FINAL SIGN DESIGNS THAT WERE, UH, DECIDED UPON RIGHT THERE.
HERE ARE SOME OF THE DECORATIVE POLES.
NOW THE, THE SIGNS THAT ARE GONNA GO IN THE TXDOT RIGHT OF WAYS AND THE MAJOR CITY, UH, AREAS WILL HAVE THE REGULAR POLES THAT YOU NORMALLY SEE.
THE SIGNS ARE IN THE DOWNTOWN, UH, DOWNTOWN ARTS DISTRICT WILL HAVE THE DECORATIVE POLES.
SO THEY ALREADY HAVE SOME DECORATIVE POLES DOWN THERE, AND SO BILL CLOSELY MATCH THOSE, THOSE POLLS.
SO WE ISSUED AN RFP FOR THIS IN JANUARY OF 2020.
UM, WE, UH, HAD BID OPENING FEBRUARY 27TH, AND THE WINNING BID GOES TO GEOGRAPHIC INDUSTRIES.
LET'S SEE, WHAT'S NOW GEOGRAPHIC INDUSTRIES, UM, IS A PRIVATELY OWNED COMPANY.
IT'S RIGHT OUTSIDE OF CINCINNATI, AND THEY HAVE OVER 30 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE IN THE SIGN INDUSTRY.
THEY SPECIALIZE IN WAY FINDING, BUT THEY ALSO SPECIALIZE IN MUSEUM EXHIBITS AND RETAIL, UM, CORPORATE ENVIRONMENTS.
THEY HAVE DONE SOME GREAT PROJECTS.
CITY OF ASHEVILLE, NORTH CAROLINA, UM, WICHITA FALLS.
UM, AND HERE YOU CAN SEE A FEW EXAMPLES OF SOME THINGS THAT THEY'VE DONE IN OTHER AREAS.
THIS VENDOR CAME WITH GREAT RECOMMENDATIONS.
WE'RE VERY EXCITED TO WORK WITH THEM AND, UH, WE STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL, OBVIOUSLY SCIENCE LOOK VERY NICE.
ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS BEFORE WE GET, OR CAN I GO, GO AHEAD AND GET A MOTION ON ITEM SEVEN, A MOVE TO APPROVE SEVEN A SECOND.
THE SIGNS THAT ARE GOING TO GO IN THE ARTS DISTRICT.
YOU MENTIONED THAT WE ALREADY HAVE SOME DECORATIVE POLLS THERE.
WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE OR FEASIBLE TO UTILIZE THOSE POLES AND MAYBE ATTACH THESE SIGNS TO THOSE POLES? THAT IS A GOOD QUESTION.
WE'LL FIND OUT, YOUR HONOR, I, I THINK I WOULDN'T WANT TO SEE A CLUTTER OF DIFFERENT POLES WITH DIFFERENT SIGNS.
WHY NOT JUST GO AHEAD AND PUT THOSE SIGNS ON THOSE POLES? LIKE ON THIS PRE, ON THE EXISTING IS EXISTING POLE ON THE EXISTING POLES? WELL, I THINK SOME ARE JUST, IT WAS JUST A STREETLIGHT.
YEAH, I THINK THEY'RE LIKE STREET SIGNS AND THINGS.
SO IT HAVE, THOSE ARE STREETLIGHT POLES THAT ARE THERE, BUT THEY'RE DECORATIVE STREETLIGHT POLES.
WELL, SO THESE WOULD BE A LITTLE DIFFERENT.
WE GO BACK TO THE OTHER PICTURE.
SOME OF THOSE SIGNS WERE ACTUALLY ON SOME, UM, SOME OF THOSE POLES.
YEAH, I MEAN, I MEAN, I WILL AGREE.
I DON'T WANT MORE SIGN BLIGHT POLE POLLUTION.
SO, ANNA, EARLIER THIS EVENING, WE, WE GOT A PRESENTATION ON THE NEW PIRATES BAY LOGO, AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THEY DID DO WITH THE NEW LOGO WAS THEY USED COLORS FROM THE CITY OF BAY TOWN'S LOGO.
AND I THOUGHT THAT WAS REALLY SMART, ESPECIALLY IN THEIR EXPLANATION THAT IT KIND OF HAD A CONSISTENT BRAND DESPITE HOW MANY DIFFERENT SIGNS AND LOGOS WE HAVE, I NOTICED THESE COLORS ARE JUST SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT.
AND SO I WONDER IF IT'D BE WORTH CONSIDERING USING THE SAME COLORING IN ALL OF OUR DIFFERENT SIGNAGE AND LOGOS.
THIS COULD BE JUST A DIFFERENCE IN THE, IN THE SCREEN.
WE DID TAKE THE OFFICIAL COLORS FROM THE LOGO FOR THIS, BUT I WILL GET IN TOUCH WITH PARKS TO SEE IF THE, WHAT THE DIFFERENCES AND WE'LL, WE'LL MATCH IT UP.
ALRIGHT, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? ALRIGHT, SO, UH, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR ITEM SEVEN A AS AS READ PLEASE SAY AYE.
[b. Consider an ordinance authorizing a Professional Service Agreement for a Facility Master Plan Project with Johnston, LLC.]
ITEM SEVEN B, CONSIDERED ORDINANCE AUTHORIZED AND PROFESSIONAL SERVICE AGREEMENT WITH THE FACILITY MASTER PLAN PROJECT WITH JOHNSON, LLC.UM, THIS CONTRACT IS WITH JOHNSTON TO DO A FACILITIES MASTER PLAN FOR THE CITY.
UM, THE CONTRACT AMOUNT IS, UH, $350,310.
THE PURPOSE OF THIS IS TO, UM, GET US ON THE ROAD TO MAKING SURE THAT OUR, UH, CITY BUILDINGS ARE CODE COMPLIANT, INCLUDING A DA, THAT THEY'RE, UM, MEETING OUR EXPECTATIONS IN OUR RESIDENCE EXPECTATIONS.
THE PROJECT WILL BE IN TWO PHASES.
UH, THE FIRST PHASE IS TO DO AN ASSESSMENT ON OUR EXISTING BUILDINGS TO FIND OUT WHERE THEY ARE AS FAR AS COMPLIANCE WITH CODES, INCLUDING A DA.
AND THEN THE SECOND PHASE WILL BE, UM, AN ASSESSMENT OF HOW WE USE THOSE BUILDINGS AND GIVE US A GUIDE FORWARD FOR, UM, PLANNING FOR FUTURE GROWTH.
UM, AND TRYING TO DECIDE IF THE USES THAT ARE, UM, IN THOSE BUILDINGS IS THE RIGHT USE FOR THEM.
SO RELOCATING, UTILITY BUILDING, RELOCATING OTHER DEPARTMENTS IF IT MAKES SENSE.
AND THAT'S, UM, A LOT OF WHAT THE MASTER PLAN WILL DO FOR US.
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ITEM SEVEN B, MOVE TO APPROVE SEVEN B, SECOND.AND SECOND, ARE THOSE IN FAVOR? ANY QUESTION? YES.
SO MY QUESTION IS, UM, $350,000 IS A LOT OF MONEY FOR A PLAN.
AND I, I CAN UNDERSTAND THE A DA PART, THE OUTSIDE EXPERTISE THAT THAT IS NEEDED ON THAT PORTION OF IT.
BUT WHEN WE TALK ABOUT HOW WE USE OUR BUILDINGS MM-HMM
I MEAN, YOU WOULD THINK THAT WE WOULD HAVE AN IDEA AND SUBSTANTIAL INPUT ON HOW WE USE OUR BUILDINGS AND HOW WE WANT TO USE OUR BUILDINGS AND, AND WHERE WE'RE GOING IN, IN THAT REGARD.
SO, UM, I'M, I I GUESS I, I QUESTION TO SOME DEGREE TO HAVE AN OUTSIDE CONSULTANT TO, TO TELL US HOW WE SHOULD USE OUR BUILDINGS FOR $350,000.
I GUESS THE QUESTION IS, DO WE NOT, DO WE HAVE ANY, I KNOW WE HAVE A LOT OF IN-HOUSE TALENT, BUT IS THIS SOMETHING THAT WE'RE JUST NOT CAPABLE OF, OR ARE THEY, OR ARE THEY GONNA BE THAT MUCH BETTER AT IT THAN WE WOULD IN-HOUSE? I THINK WE'RE A GOOD ANSWER.
BEFORE FRANK TALKS, UM, I WANNA SAY SINCE I'VE BEEN WITH THE CITY, UH, WE HAVE, WE HAVE SPENT, UM, A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF MONEY SIMPLY TRYING TO MAINTAIN OUR INVENTORY OF, OF SOME 45 BUILDINGS.
UH, AND OUR PROBLEM HAS BEEN THAT WE HAVE BEEN REACTIVE TO PROBLEMS. UH, WE HAVE GUESSTIMATED WHAT, WHAT IMPROVEMENTS WE NEED TO MAKE TO CONTINUE TO MAKE THOSE BUILDINGS FUNCTIONAL.
WE HAVE NOT HAD THE BASIS FOR DETERMINING WHETHER WE EVEN NEED THOSE BUILDINGS, WHETHER THEY CAN BE CONSOLIDATED, WE CAN ELIMINATE THOSE.
UH, WE HAVE NOT ADDRESSED A MYRIAD OF A DA ISSUES AS WE MENTIONED.
AND I THINK THE PROBLEM HAS BEEN IN TERMS OF OUR, KIND OF OUR REACT, OUR REACTION TO, UH, VARIOUS SCENARIOS THAT HAVE POPPED UP OVER THE LAST FIVE YEARS IS THAT WE HAVEN'T HAD A PLAN.
RIGHT NOW, IF SOMETHING LEAKS, WE FIX IT AND IF SOMETHING DOES THIS OR THE THE AC GOES OUT OR WHATEVER, WE, WE FIX IT.
AND WE HAVEN'T HAD A BASIS FOR SAYING, GOSH, DO WE, DO WE NEED THAT BUILDING OR CAN WE, CAN WE DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT IN TERMS OF, OF, UH, UTILIZATION OF THAT FACILITY? I THINK WE'LL JUST GO ON CONTINUING TO BE REACTIVE WITHOUT A PLAN.
AND I THINK THERE IS AN ROI ASSOCIATED WITH HAVING THE INTELLIGENCE THAT THIS KIND OF PLANNING WILL PROVIDE US.
SO I, I JUST WANTED TO ADD THAT A LOT OF THE MONEY THAT, UM, THIS IS GOING TOWARDS IS TO DO A CONDITIONED ASSESSMENT OF EACH YEAH.
THAT JUST SOUNDS LIKE NOW OF, OF EACH FACILITY AND THERE ARE 44 BUILDINGS, SO IT REALLY WILL BE A LOT OF WORK.
UM, THEY'RE GOING TO LOOK AT THE HVA SYSTEMS, THE PLUMBING, THE ELECTRICAL, THE ROOF, AND GIVE US REALLY THE TOOLS TO MAKE A PLAN FOR ALL THESE FACILITIES INSTEAD OF LIKE, UH, MR. DAVIS SAID, PUTTING A BANDAID ON WHEN, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING BREAKS.
SO WE COULD ACTUALLY PLAN OUT FOR FIVE YEARS WHAT WE NEED TO DO TO MAINTAIN OUR BUILDINGS.
AND SO THAT'S A LOT OF WHAT THEY'RE GONNA BE DOING.
AND AS, AS MATT SAID, LOOKING AT A DA, YOU KNOW, WE'VE HAD, UM, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE A DA COMPLIANT AND WE DON'T KNOW IN SOME OF OUR BUILDINGS THE COST TO MAKE SURE THE BUILDINGS ARE A DA COMPLIANT.
SO THIS IS TO GIVE US THAT PLAN AS WELL.
AND THEN WE SELECTED EIGHT BUILDINGS, UH, CITY HALL INCLUDED, YOU KNOW, PUBLIC WORKS.
UM, JUST A FEW BUILDINGS THAT THE COMMUNITY CENTER HEALTH, UH, THE COURTS, THE LIBRARY, UH, AND THE OLD UTILITY BUILDING, UH, BUILDING TO LOOK AT IT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE USING IT IN THE MOST EFFICIENT MANNER.
SO IT'S TO MEET WITH THE STAFF, TALK ABOUT WHAT GROWTH NEEDS WE HAVE, AND THEN LOOK AT THESE BUILDINGS AND TRY TO GIVE US SOME IDEAS ON HOW BEST TO USE THAT.
SO, UH, I THINK WE'RE GETTING A GOOD VALUE FOR THAT.
UM, WE'VE LOOKED AT OTHER CITIES, WHAT THEY SPENT, AND I KNOW, UH, A COMPARABLE CITY SPENT THIS MUCH ON HALF AS MANY BUILDINGS.
SO THERE REALLY IS A LOT OF WORK GOING INTO THIS.
AND, UH, WELL, WELL IT'S GOOD TO HEAR THAT ON THE THOROUGH INSPECTIONS, I GUESS THE WAY IT WAS PRESENTED, I JUST THOUGHT THERE WAS MORE EMPHASIS ON THE FUTURE USE, BUT SO IT'S GOOD TO HEAR THERE'S A LOT OF IT IS, YOU KNOW, INSPECTION, A CONDITION ASSESSMENT AND THEY'RE GONNA MAKE A PRESENTATION COUNCIL LAYING OUT, YOU KNOW, LIKE SAY A FIVE YEAR PLAN ON, UH, FACILITY IMPROVEMENTS.
UM, A DA COMPLIANCE AND FUTURE GROWTH.
NO, AND I THINK, I'M GLAD THAT Y'ALL ANSWERED THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE HOLISTICALLY.
I, I WOULD'VE TO AGREE WITH COUNCILMAN PRESLEY WHEN YOU, WHEN YOU LOOK KIND OF LIKE AT A SMALL OR YOU SEE WHAT A SMALL SCOPE IS AND A BIG DOLLAR FIGURE, LIKE WHAT ARE WE GETTING? RIGHT, RIGHT.
IT SOUNDS LIKE THE DELIVERABLE IS A FACILITY CON CONDITION ASSESSMENT.
I'M ASSUMING THEY'RE GONNA PRIORITIZE PROBABLY FROM SMALL REPAIRS TO LARGE SYSTEM YES.
SO I THINK THAT THAT IS SOMETHING, I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'VE DONE THAT IN A LONG TIME.
MAYBE WHEN WE DID SOME STUFF WITH JOHNSON CONTROLS, BUT THAT WAS MAINLY ON
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A, UH, COST SAVINGS TYPE, UH, INITIATIVE AND, AND EQUIPMENT REPLACEMENT THAT WAS 10 PLUS YEARS AGO.SO I THINK IT'S CERTAINLY TIMES THAT WE DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT, AT LEAST KIND OF HAVE A GAUGE OF WHERE WE'RE AT AND IS IT, IS IT PRUDENT TO, TO CONTINUE REPAIRING OR WE DON'T NEED THE BUILDING OR WHATEVER THE CASE MAY.
AND THAT THAT WAS ONE THING WE WANT TO LOOK AT.
YOU KNOW, SOME OF THESE BUILDINGS, ARE THEY WORTH THE EFFORT OR THE COST THAT WE HAVE TO PUT INTO THEM.
THAT THAT'S, AND YOU KNOW, WE DID SOME REFERENCE CHECKS.
THIS COMPANY WAS VERY HIGHLY RECOMMENDED AND THEY'VE DONE SOME GOOD WORK AND LIKE I SAY, THEY'RE GONNA MAKE PRESENTATION TO COUNCIL AND YOU'LL GET TO SEE THEIR WORK.
SO WE DO HAVE A, IT WAS ALREADY A MOTION A SECOND ON THIS ONE ITEM.
SO WITH ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? I HAVE ONE.
UM, DOES THIS ASSESSMENT INCLUDE EMERGENCY SERVICES BUILDINGS SUCH AS FIRE STATIONS, ALL, ALL THE FIRE STATIONS? UH, WE, WE ONLY DEDUCTED THE, THE BUILDINGS THAT ARE, UM, OF COURSE BEING ACTIVELY RENOVATED.
YOU KNOW, WE'RE RIGHT, WE'RE NOT DOING THE OLD POLICE BUILDING.
UM, WE TOOK OUT THE 9 1 1 CENTER, IT'S RECENTLY BEEN DONE.
THE, UM, PARKS OPERATIONS CENTER.
JUST THE ONES THAT ARE VERY RECENTLY DONE.
SO SOMETHING I'D BE INTERESTED IN SEEING IN THE ASSESSMENT IS ADEQUATE FACILITIES FOR BOTH MEN AND WOMEN.
AND WHERE I'M COMING FROM ON THIS IS THE BUDGET ITEM LAST SESSION WHERE WE HAD TO BUILD A CHANGING ROOM FOR, RIGHT.
THE FEMALE FIRE FIREFIGHTERS WHERE THERE DIDN'T WANNA EXIST.
AND SO I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY OF OUR, UH, BUILDINGS REQUIRE EMPLOYEES TO CHANGE OR SHOWER.
I DON'T, I DON'T, I DON'T MIND KIND OF THE UNISEX BATHROOMS, HOW WE HAVE HERE WHERE ANYONE CAN JUST USE AN IT ONE, BUT WHEN THEY'RE REQUIRED TO CHANGE OR SHOWER, UM, I KIND OF WANNA GET OUT OF THIS MINDSET THAT JUST BECAUSE WOMEN DON'T WORK IN THIS BUILDING DOESN'T MEAN THEY'RE NOT GOING TO ONE DAY, LET'S JUST, YOU KNOW, LET'S GO AHEAD AND MAKE, WELL, THEY, AND, AND THAT'S PART OF THE CODE COMPLIANCE.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS REGARDING THIS ITEM? ALRIGHT, ITEM SEVEN B, WE DO HAVE A MOTION.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THAT, OF ITEM SEVEN B IS PRESENTED.
[c. Consider an ordinance authorizing an agreement for Professional Services with Carollo Engineers Inc., for a Water and Wastewater Rate Study for the City of Baytown. ]
WE HAVE ITEM SEVEN C CONSIDERED ORDINANCE AUTHORIZED AND AGREEMENT FOR PROFESSIONAL SERVICES WITH CARILLO ENGINEERING ENGINEERS INC.FOR A WASTE WATER AND WASTEWATER RATE STUDY FOR THE CITY OF BAYTOWN.
GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNSEL.
UM, THIS ITEM IS A CONTRACT TO DO A RATE STUDY THAT WILL ASSIST WITH THE LONG-TERM PLANNING, UH, FOR OUR CURRENT AND FUTURE CAPITAL PROJECTS, WHILE ALSO MAINTAINING OUR SUPERIOR WATER SYSTEM RATING.
UH, OUR LAST STUDY RATE STUDY WAS COMPLETED IN 2009.
UM, HOWEVER, SINCE 2013, WE HAVE NOT ADJUSTED RATES, UH, FREQUENTLY.
WE HAVE ADJUSTED THE SEWER RATE ONCE IN THAT PERIOD AND THE WATER RATE HAS NOT BEEN ADJUSTED AT ALL.
OUR CONSULTANT COROLLA ENGINEERING IS A WELL-RESPECTED CONSULTANT AND THE WATER AND WASTEWATER INDUSTRY, UH, MOST RECENTLY SERVING AS A CONSULTANT FOR THE CITY OF HOUSTON'S NORTHEAST, UH, WATER TREATMENT PLAN EXPANSION PROJECT.
UM, PROJECT DELIVERABLES WILL INCLUDE REVENUE REQUIREMENTS, COST OF SERVICE ANALYSIS, AND FUTURE COUNSEL, UH, PRESENTATION.
ALRIGHT, SO WE HAVE, UH, CAN I ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR ITEM SEVEN C, MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM SEVEN C, SECOND MOTION TO SECOND.
ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? QUESTION? YES, SIR.
AND, AND I APOLOGIZE ABOUT DIDN'T SEE IT, BUT HOW MUCH IS THE RATE STUDY? SEVEN ONE.
SO MY COMMENTS ARE THAT I, I REMEMBER WHEN WE INCREASED, I GUESS THE WASTEWATER, I DIDN'T REALIZE IT'D BEEN THAT LONG ON THE WATER 2013.
I DIDN'T, I DIDN'T REALIZE, I THOUGHT IT WAS A LITTLE MORE RECENT THAN THAT, BUT, SO I, I DO HAVE COMMENTS IN MY DISTRICT FROM CONSTITUENTS REGARDING THE, THE WATER BILLS AND A NUMBER OF MY CONSTITUENTS SEEM TO BELIEVE THEY'RE ON THE HIGH SIDE.
AND, UH, AND OF COURSE MY DISTRICT IS, IS PROBABLY THE LOWEST INCOME DISTRICT DEMOGRAPHIC DEMOGRAPHICALLY THAT WE HAVE IN THE CITY.
SO I'M A LITTLE, UH, YOU KNOW, HESITANT TO RAISE RATES, ESPECIALLY AT THIS PARTICULAR TIME WHEN WE HAVE SO MANY PEOPLE THAT HAVE FRANKLY KIND OF FALLEN UPON HARD TIMES.
SO I'M, I'M A LITTLE RELUCTANT TO RAISE RATES TO EVEN COMMISSION THE STUDY BECAUSE STUDIES ARE 99 TIMES OUT OF A HUNDRED OR PRECURSOR TO RAISING RATES AND A JUSTIFICATION TO DO SO.
AND I WOULD, YOU KNOW, I CAN TELL YOU MY, MY SUPPORT IF I SUPPORT THE, THE RATE INCREASE THAT IS CERTAINLY FORTHCOMING, I WOULD THINK, I WOULD SUSPECT, I, I WOULD, I WOULD HOPE THAT IT WOULD BE THE, THE MINIMAL, AT LEAST IN THE NEAR TERM FUTURE TO
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KIND OF GET US BY AND, UH, YOU KNOW, IF WE'RE GONNA RAISE 'EM TO A LARGE DEGREE, I HOPE IT'S, I HOPE IT'S IN MORE PROSPEROUS TIMES.AND, AND LET ME, LET ME ASK, I GUESS, UM, OBVIOUSLY YOU, WE WANT THE DATA TO, TO SEE IF THERE'S A DECISION OR NOT.
AND, AND THE DECISION WILL BE UP TO COUNCIL, I'M ASSUMING, RIGHT? AND SO, UM, SINCE IT'S BEEN, UH, 2013 AND, UH, WHEN, WHEN WOULD WE EXPECT TO RECEIVE THIS TYPE OF DATA AND KIND OF WHEN WOULD ACTIONS TAKE AFTER THAT? I GUESS IF WE RE ONCE WE RECEIVE THE DATA.
SO WE'RE HOPING TO RECEIVE THIS DATA PRIOR TO, UH, COMING BACK TO PRESENT THE BUDGET TO YOU.
AND LET ME ASK, SO RIGHT NOW I THINK OUR, OUR RATES ARE KIND OF BA WHEN WE DID ALL THAT, IT WAS, A LOT OF IT WAS BASED ON CONSERVATION AND THERE WAS A LOT OF TIER TO TRY TO MOTIVATE PEOPLE TO OBVIOUSLY CONSERVE WATER.
AND SO IT DEPENDS ON KIND OF WHAT IS GONNA BE OUR, UH, APPROACH ON THAT.
AND SO WE ALL, WE ALL PROVIDE SOME OPTIONS OF OF, OF HOW DIFFERENT RATE STRUCTURES, I'M ASSUMING.
UM, CAN Y'ALL PROVIDE OPTIONS, UH, FOR COUNCIL TO LOOK AT WITH THAT? YES, SIR.
THROUGH, WELL ANYWAY, WHEN, WHEN IN THE STUDY, I'D LIKE TO SEE OPTIONS, UM, YOU KNOW, LIKE ONE WOULD BE, UM, THERE'S THE AVERAGE HOUSEHOLD STILL USING 6,000 GALLONS OF WATER, MAYBE IT'S 8,000 GALLONS OF WATER NOW.
SO JUST THOSE TYPE OF OPTIONS THAT WE'D LIKE TO SEE, UH, WITH COUNCILMAN PRESLEY.
I, THE LAST THING I WANNA DO, ALTHOUGH COSTS, OPERATIONAL COSTS INCREASED OBVIOUSLY OVER THE LAST SEVEN YEARS IF IT, IF IT'S GONNA BE SOMETHING WE WANT IT TO BE JUST ONLY WHAT WE NEED, NOT ANYTHING IN ADDITION TO YES, SIR.
I SHARED MR. PRIESTLEY'S CONCERNS THERE.
AND, UM, BRIEFLY WHAT YOU SAID THERE AT THE LAST, I'M CONCERNED WITH THIS ISSUE HERE, AND I TALKED WITH, UH, CITY MANAGER ABOUT THIS AND SHARED MY CONCERNS.
MY CONCERNS ARE IF WE NEED TO PAY FOR SOMETHING, WE PUT IT OFF ON THE RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY AND LET THEM PAY FOR IT.
IN THE MEANTIME, WE HAVE ON THE CITY SIDE, WE HAVE WATER LEAKS EVERYWHERE ON THE CITY SIDE.
UH, WE DON'T MEET OR ANYTHING.
THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS WE CAN DO ON THE CITY SIDE.
MY CONCERN IS LET'S CHECK THAT SIDE OF THE HOUSE FIRST.
MAKE SURE WE ARE VERY EFFICIENT IN PRODUCING WATER AND DISTRIBUTING WATER BEFORE IT HITS THE FIRST METER THAT GOES TO A COMMERCIAL OR GOES TO A RESIDENT.
MAKE SURE THAT OUR HOUSE IS CORRECT BEFORE WE START LOOKING AT ON THE OTHER SIDE.
AND WE START INCREASING RATES TO THOSE PEOPLE OUT THERE IN THOSE AREAS THAT, UH, CAN'T AFFORD A $5 INCREASE IN THE WATER BILL.
LET'S MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE PRODUCING WATER AT THE MOST ECONOMICAL RATE WITH THE BEST QUALITY WATER THAT WE HAVE.
WE NEED TO DO THAT FIRST AND THEN CONSIDER WHAT ARE WE GONNA DO WITH THESE RATES IF WE NEED TO RAISE 'EM AT ALL.
AND I LIKE THE WORD OPTIONS, MAYOR, IF, YOU KNOW, IF WE HAVE SOME OPTIONS TO WHERE, IF WE MUST RAISE THEM THAT, YOU KNOW, PERHAPS ONE OPTION WOULD BE INCREMENTALLY MM-HMM
AND SO I I APPRECIATE THE OPTIONS.
I MEAN OBVIOUSLY THERE'S, THERE'S TIMES WHEN, WHEN ANY, ANY, ANY OF THE WATER THAT WE GET, IF THERE'S, IF IT'S OTHER CITIES THAT WE ARE WANNA SAY OTHER SOURCES THAT WE GET, IF THEY HAVE INCREASED COSTS TO US, OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE TO PASS THOSE THROUGH.
SOMETIMES WE ABSORB 'EM FOR, FOR YEARS AND MAYBE, UH, MAY THE CASE, BUT, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T KNOW TILL WE GET THE DATA.
SO LET'S GET THAT FIRST AND THEN WE CAN MAKE DECISIONS.
UM, THAT ACTUALLY HAS OCCURRED, UM, FOR SEVERAL YEARS.
UM, THE WATER THAT THE CITY IS PURCHASING, UM, THE WATER RATE HAS WENT UP AND THE CITY HAS ABSORBED THAT OVER THAT TIME.
SO WITH THAT, UH, WE DO HAVE A, I THINK THERE WAS A MOTION FOR, UH, SEVEN C.
SO ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? IF NOT, WELL ENTERTAIN, UH, UH, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR.
[d. Consider an ordinance authorizing Change Order Nos. 2 and 3 to the I-10 Ramp Reversal Project with Texas Department of Transportation.]
WE HAVE OUR LAST ORDINANCE, UH, SEVEN D CONSIDER ORDINANCE AUTHORIZED AND CHANGE ORDER NUMBER TWO AND THREE TO THE I 10 RAMP REVERSAL PROJECT WITH TEX, WITH TEX.MR. JOHNSON, VERY BRIEFLY, PLEASE.
YEAH, I WILL BE AS BRIEF AS POSSIBLE.
UM, AS YOU KNOW, THE I 10 RAMP REVERSAL'S GOING ON, UH, THE, WHEN THE PROJECT WAS BID, THE, UM, BID DOCUMENTS HAD SEVERAL ERRORS, UM, THAT IN THE QUANTITIES AND IN THE DESIGN, UM, THE, UH,
UM, TDOT IS MANAGING THE PROJECT FOR US BECAUSE IT IS THERE RIGHT OF WAY.
UM, THE, THIS IS FOR, UH, CHANGE ORDERS TWO AND THREE, APPARENTLY CHANGE ORDER NUMBER ONE.
THERE WAS AN ERROR IN TDOT SYSTEM AND THEY CANCELED CHANGE ORDER ONE.
SO THERE IS NO CHANGE ORDER ONE.
SO IT STARTS WITH TWO AND THREE.
UM, THE FIRST CHANGE ORDER IS THE ADDITIVE, WHICH PREVIOUSLY HAD BEEN THE, UM, SECOND CHANGE ORDER, UH, TO ADD IN THE ITEMS THAT,
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UM, WERE TAKEN OUT IN CHANGE ORDER NUMBER THREE.UM, THE TOTAL IMPACT WILL BE $744,756 99 CENTS.
THE, UM, THIS ORDINANCE ACTUALLY AUTHORIZES US TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE CHANGE ORDERS.
UM, THE ACTUAL TRUE UP WILL OCCUR AT THE END OF THE PROJECT.
UM, THAT'S THE WAY THAT THE TDOT CONTRACTS WORK AND THE A FFA IS, IS DESIGNED.
UM, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? UH, MR. HOSKIN DOES? YES, SIR.
IS IT WITHIN THE CONTINGENCY OF THE PROJECT, THE 744,000? THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.
I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD.
UH, I WOULD BE ABLE TO, UM, CHECK THAT SAY 10 TO 15%.
I THINK, I THINK IT WAS IN, WAS IT IN THE $5 MILLION RANGE FOR TOTAL PROJECT AT FIRST, SOMEWHERE IN THAT? UH, YES SIR.
ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF ITEM SEVEN D AS PRESENTED, PLEASE SAY AYE.
[a. Receive the City of Baytown's Quarterly Financial Report and Investment Report for the Quarter Ending March 31, 2020.]
UH, EIGHT A RECEIVER OF CITY OF BAY TOWN'S QUARTERLY FINANCIAL REPORT INVESTMENT REPORT FOR THE QUARTER ENDING MARCH 31ST, 2020.UH, I'M HAPPY TO PRESENT THE REPORT FOR THE SECOND QUARTER.
UH, FIRST OF ALL, I'D LIKE TO THANK THE FINANCE COMMITTEE WHO MET EARLIER THIS WEEK TO CONSIDER AND DISCUSS, UH, THE ITEMS ON THE AGENDA.
UH, I'LL BE VERY BRIEF OVERALL, THE PICTURE IS A GOOD ONE FOR THE CITY.
WE REMAIN FINANCIALLY ROBUST, WHICH IS GOOD IN THESE UNCERTAIN TIMES.
AS YOU WILL SEE, THE PATTERN FOLLOWS, UH, PREVIOUS YEARS, UH, IN FACT WE'RE A LITTLE BIT AHEAD OF BUDGET IN TERMS OF SALES TAX AT THE MIDWAY POINT OF THE YEAR.
SO THAT IS IN MARCH AND THAT IS JANUARY SALES.
UM, WE HAD A LITTLE BIT OF A DIP, UH, LATERALLY AND THAT WAS DUE TO, UH, AN AUDIT BY THE TEXAS CONTROLLER WHO HAD TO REMIT SOME, UH, OVERPAID SALES TAX TO A LOCAL RETAILER.
UH, MOVING ON, OVERALL REVENUES ARE LOOKING VERY HEALTHY.
INDEED FOR THE GENERAL FUND, WERE 90% OF BUDGET.
THAT'S LARGELY BECAUSE OF PROPERTY TAX AND REVENUES FROM THE INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS ALREADY BEING RECEIVED.
THE AQUATIC CENTER HASN'T OPENED YET, AS WE KNOW.
AND, UH, INTERESTINGLY ENOUGH, IN THE FIRST HALF OF THE YEAR, UH, RECEIPTS FROM HOTEL AND MOTEL TAX WERE UP SIGNIFICANTLY TOO.
AND THE STORY REMAINS THE SAME FOR THE WATER SEWER AND THE SANITATION FUNDS.
AGAIN, A LITTLE BIT AHEAD OF THE BUDGET.
ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE EQUATION, THANKFULLY, WE'RE A LITTLE BIT BEHIND ON SPEND ACROSS ALL FUNDS, WHICH, UH, AS I SAY, CONTRIBUTES TO A HEALTHY BOTTOM LINE OVERALL.
AND YOU WILL SEE ALSO FOR THE WATER, SEWER, AND SANITATION FUNDS.
AGAIN, THAT REMAINS THE STORY.
LOOKING INTO OUR INVESTMENTS, UH, ALL I WOULD SAY IN THAT IS WE ARE FOLLOWING THE MARKET.
UH, YOU WILL KNOW THERE IS, UH, A LOT OF VOLATILITY IN THE SYSTEM, BUT, UH, YOU'RE INCREDIBLY CONSERVATIVE IN THE INVESTMENTS WE MAKE AND, UH, WE ARE PERFORMING.
I WOULD SUGGEST, WELL, IN THE CONTEXT OF THE CURRENT MARKET CLIMATE.
THAT'S ALL I HAVE, MR. MAYOR, HAPPY TO TAKE QUESTIONS.
SO UNLESS THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS, WE WOULD RE WE WOULD CONSIDER THIS REPORT RECEIVED.
[9. CONSENT All Consent Agenda items listed are considered to be routine by the City Council and will be enacted by one motion. There will be no separate discussion of these items unless a Council Member requests, in which event the item will be removed from the Consent Agenda and considered in its normal sequence on the agenda.]
MOVE ON TO CONSENT AGENDA, A FEW NOTES.UH, THERE IS A RED LINE RESOLUTION SHOULD BE AT YOUR PLACE FOR YOUR REVIEW, AND WE WILL, WE ARE GONNA BE NOT INCLUDING IN THE CONSENT MOTION, UH, ITEM M.
SO I WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR CONSENT AGENDA ITEM A THROUGH L, MOVE TO AC APPROVE A THROUGH L.
SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION TO SECOND.
IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF, UH, THE CONSENT AGENDA AS PRESENTED, PLEASE SAY AYE.
[10. MANAGER'S REPORT Notice is hereby given in accordance with Section 551.0415 of the Texas Government Code, the City Council of the City of Baytown may receive a report about items of community interest from City staff and/or a member of the City Council, but no action or possible action shall be taken or discussed concerning the subject of such report, except as provided by Section 551.042 of the Texas Government Code.]
APPROVED MANAGED REPORT.COUNSEL, I'VE BEEN SAVING UP A LOT OF GOOD NEWS OVER THE LAST, UH, MONTH AND A HALF.
AND JUST QUICKLY WANT TO GO THROUGH SOME, UH, FIRST OF ALL, I WANTED TO, UH, CONGRATULATE OUR VERY OWN TREVOR FANNING, WHO IS THE WINNER OF THE GALEN SPARKS AWARD FOR OUTSTANDING SERVICE.
THIS IS A STATEWIDE AWARD THAT RECOGNIZES AN ATTORNEY FOR SIGNIFICANT AND DISTINGUISHED CAREER ACHIEVEMENTS IN THE FIELD OF MUNICIPAL LAW.
AND SO WE'RE PROUD TO HELP, UH, TREVOR ON OUR TEAM TO BE SURE.
SO CONGRATULATE HIM WHEN YOU SEE HIM.
UH, I ALSO WANT TO GIVE A SHOUT OUT TO, TO APRIL OVER AT OUR, OUR ANIMAL CONTROL FACILITY, ALL THE GREAT CHANGES THAT SHE'S BROUGHT TO, TO THAT OPERATION, THAT PROGRAM.
AND, UH, I'M SURE YOU SAW THE NATIONAL COVERAGE THAT WE RECEIVED.
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AS A RESULT OF, OF THOSE EFFORTS, UH, WE, UH, WE'VE LITERALLY GONE FROM BEING IN THE DOGHOUSE TO NOW BEING A, A MODEL, UH, NATIONALLY.UM, UH, AN EXCERPT FROM THE NBC COVERAGE SAID BAYTOWN, TEXAS ADOPTION CENTER WAS ABLE TO CLEAR OUT HIS SHELTER.
BY MARCH 28TH, THE SHELTER JUST 30 MINUTES OUTSIDE OF HOUSTON.
15 MINUTES FOR ME, UH, HAD NO FOSTER PROGRAM IN PLACE WHEN THE STATE ANNOUNCED ITS FIRST CORONAVIRUS CASE ON MARCH 4TH.
BUT APRIL MOORE, THE ANIMAL SERVICES MANAGER FOR THE CITY, SAID THAT THE SHELTER BEGAN BUILDING A FOSTER PROGRAM ON MARCH 16TH.
JUST EIGHT DAYS LATER, THE SHELTER PLACED ITS FIRST DOG IN A FOSTER HOME.
THE SHELTER HAD JUST ONE DOG LEFT IN ITS CARE WHEN NBC NEWS SPOKE TO MORE ON WEDNESDAY.
UH, WHEN I, WHEN, WHEN I FIRST BECAME ACQUAINTED WITH THE CITY OF BAYTOWN, UH, WE WERE CERTAINLY IN THE NEWS
AND, UH, THIS IS A BETTER WAY TO BE, UH, IN THE NEWS.
AND WE COULD NOT DO IT WITHOUT APRIL.
SO I WANT TO GIVE A HEARTY SHOUT OUT TO HER.
UH, I'D LIKE TO CONGRATULATE, UH, OFFICER STEVEN HEMINGWAY FOR RECEIVING HIS MASTER'S PEACE OFFICER CERTIFICATE, UH, AS WELL AS OFFICER WILLIAM HIBBS FOR RECEIVING HIS ADVANCED PEACE OFFICER CERTIFICATE.
AND THEN SERGEANT AARON CORRALES RECEIVED HIS MASTER'S PEACE OFFICER CERTIFICATE AS WELL.
AND, UH, THANK YOU TO OFFICER N ANDERSON.
WHAT DOES N STAND FOR? NORM NORMAN? OKAY.
UH, HE, UH, HE STOPPED IN AN HHEB LOT RECENTLY TO FIX A TIRE.
GOT A THANK YOU, UH, SAID WE HAD A FLAT TIRE IN A PICKUP IN THE HEV LOT ON GARTH, UH, AND HAD NEVER CHANGED ONE ON OUR TRUCK.
HE HELPED US GET THE FLAT CHANGED VERY QUICKLY.
UH, SO I APPRECIATE HIM DEMONSTRATING OUR CORE VALUE OF CARING.
AND DAVE'S PROBABLY SAYING, WELL, IF THEY'VE BEEN IN THE KROGER LOT, THEY WOULDN'T HAVE GOTTEN THE FLAT TIRE, BUT YEAH, EXACTLY.
WE DON'T WANNA SAY EXACTLY
UH, ALSO, WE HAD A NUMBER OF EMPLOYEES, UH, HOST 18 COMPUTER MAINTENANCE STUDENTS FROM THE STEWART CAREER TECH HIGH SCHOOL.
AND I JUST WANT TO THANK THEM FOR REALLY MAKING THAT A FANTASTIC, UH, EVENT BY EXPLAINING THEIR POSITIONS AND THE ROLE THAT TECHNOLOGY PLAYS IN THEIR POSITION.
SO, SPECIFICALLY, REALLY QUICK LIBRARY SAMUEL BARKER AT BOW, WE HAVE MIKE RDO, TANYA, UH, HENDERSON, AND HERSCHEL AUSTIN.
UH, WE ALSO HAVE OUT OF IT, UH, KEVIN SWAY, LEVI MASTERSON, BILL MCFARLAND AND MARK WORTHEN, OUT OF POLICE, JAMES EILER.
AND OUT OF 9 1 1, OUR OUR, UH, 9 1 1 CENTER, UH, BRUCE SILE.
SO CONGRATULATIONS ALSO TO THEM AND THANKS, UH, FOR THAT ROLE.
UH, WITH THAT, UH, YOU PROBABLY, YOU ALREADY MET OUR NEW FINANCE DIRECTOR.
UH, JUST WANNA BRAG ON HIM JUST A LITTLE BIT TOO.
HE COMES TO US FROM CAPE GERARDO, MISSOURI.
YOU PROBABLY NOTICED THE MISSOURIAN ACCENT, UH, THAT HE HAS THAT PROBABLY GAVE IT AWAY.
BUT HE HAS A BACHELOR'S, UH, IN MODERN HISTORY AND POLITICS, UH, POSTGRADUATE DIPLOMA ADMINISTRATION AND LAW.
UH, THE FIRST ONE IS FROM THE UNI, UH, QUEENS UNIVERSITY IN BELFAST.
AND THEN HIS MASTER'S OR POSTGRADUATE DEGREE IS IN, UH, FROM THE UNIVERSITY OF ULSTER IN THE UK.
UH, DO THEY HAVE A FOOTBALL TEAM? WE, WE PLAY A REAL FOOTBALL RECORD.
I'M NOT EVEN GONNA COMMENT ON THAT.
THEY ARE ALSO NOT IN A POWER FIVE CONFERENCE, SO, UH, I'M NOT, I KNEW THAT PROFESSIONAL MEMBER SINCE HE'S A FELLOW AT THE CHARTERED INSTITUTE OF PUBLIC FINANCE AND ACCOUNTANCY.
HE'S ALSO A CREDENTIALED MANAGER WITH THE INTERNATIONAL CITY AND COUNTY MANAGEMENT ASSOCIATION, AND A MEMBER OF THE GOVERNMENT FINANCE OFFICERS ASSOCIATION.
UH, NEEDLESS TO SAY, WE ARE SO GRATEFUL TO HAVE, UH, VICTOR WITH US AND, UH, LOOK FORWARD TO A LONG ASSOCIATION WITH HIM AND PARTNERSHIP AND VERY MUCH GRATEFUL FOR THE INCREDIBLE WORK.
UH, GINA, UH, PERFORMED, UH, WHILE WE GOT VICTOR ON BOARD, UH, GINA ELEVATED THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT, AND SO I WANT TO THANK HER AS WELL, UH, FOR HER CONTRIBUTIONS.
AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE TONIGHT, MAYOR AND COUNSEL.
[a. Recess into and conduct an executive session pursuant to Section 551.072 of the Texas Government Code to deliberate the purchase of real property for municipal purposes.]
WITH THAT, WE'VE, UM, WE WILL NOW RECESS, UH, INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION AND CON, EXCUSE ME, CONVENE AN EXECUTIVE SESSION PURSUANT TO TAX AND GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 5 5 1 0.072 TO DELIBERATE THE PURCHASE OF REAL PROPERTY FOR MUNICIPAL PURPOSES.[02:25:05]
TWO.SO, AND I'LL RECONVENE OUR OPEN MEETING WITH THE BAYTOWN CITY COUNCIL AND ANNOUNCE THAT IN ACCORDANCE WITH SECTION 5 5 1 0.102, THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE, NO ACTION WAS TAKEN IN EXECUTIVE SESSION BEING THAT THE BAYTOWN CITY COUNCIL HAS ADDRESSED ALL POSTED AGENDA ITEMS AS MEETING IS NOW ADJOURNED.