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I NOW CALL THE JULY 21ST, 2026,
[ CITY OF BAYTOWN NOTICE OF MEETING PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING TUESDAY, JULY 21, 2026 5:00 P.M. COUNCIL CHAMBER, CITY HALL 2401 MARKET STREET, BAYTOWN, TEXAS 77520 AGENDA CALL TO ORDER AND ANNOUNCEMENT OF QUORUM ]
PLANNING A ZONING COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING TO ORDER AND ASK LESLIE TO CALL.ROLL, UH, MR. RICK HARLOW HERE.
AND CHAIR MS. DONNA WINFREY HERE.
UM, OUR DIRECTOR, WELL, HAS A FEW WORDS TO SAY.
I WANTED TO MAKE AN, AN ANNOUNCEMENT UP.
UM, THOSE OF YOU WHO HAVE BEEN PAYING ATTENTION, UH, KNOW THAT YOU WERE INVITED TO A VOLUNTEER APPRECIATION EVENT THAT IS HAPPENING DURING OUR MEETING TONIGHT.
UH, SO THAT STARTS AT FIVE 30.
IF WE GET OUTTA HERE IN TIME, UM, THEY WILL STILL BE GOING TILL ABOUT SEVEN 30.
SO, UH, I'D SAY ANYTIME WE GET OUTTA HERE BY SEVEN O'CLOCK TONIGHT, WHICH IT, IT IS A LONG AGENDA TONIGHT.
BUT, UM, CITY CLERK'S OFFICE ASKED ME TO PASS ALONG THAT THEY WILL STILL BE DOING, UH, THE EVENT.
THEY'RE, THEY'RE GOING TO TRY TO ACCOMMODATE US AS BEST THEY CAN BY PUSHING BACK THEIR LITTLE, UM, CEREMONY STUFF THAT THEY DO TO SIX 30 AND THEN THEY'LL PUT US AT THE END.
SO AGAIN, IF WE CAN MAKE IT THERE BY SEVEN, WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO STILL PARTICIPATE.
UM, BUT IF NOT, UM, I AM PLANNING SOMETHING THAT WILL BE JUST US NEXT MONTH.
UH, 'CAUSE I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT YOU GUYS ARE RECOGNIZED.
SO, UM, WE'LL, WE'LL HANDLE THAT AS WE HAVE TO.
WE JUST HOPE THERE'S SOME HOR D'OEUVRES LEFT, WHICH I DOUBT NO, NO PROMISES, NO GO
ITEM ONE A CITIZENS' COMMENTS.
THE PURPOSE OF CITIZENS' COMMENTS IS TO GIVE ALL INTERESTED CITIZENS THE RIGHT TO EXPRESS THEIR VIEWS.
EVERYONE'S DESIRING TO SPEAK SHOULD HAVE EITHER SIGNED THE APPROPRIATE LIST IN THE FOYER OR EMAILED THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT PRIOR TO THE POSTED TIME OF THIS MEETING.
EACH CITIZEN SHALL GIVE HIS OR HER NAME AND ADDRESS IN ORDER TO PROVIDE A PROPER RECORD OF THESE COMMENTS.
THE RULES ALLOW EACH PERSON ONE MINUTE TO SPEAK.
A CITIZEN MAY PASS HIS OR HER TIME TO ANOTHER PERSON WHO HAS REQUESTED TO ADDRESS THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.
HOWEVER, NO CITIZEN'S REMARKS SHALL EXCEED THREE MINUTES IN TOTAL.
EITHER THE ONE MINUTE OR THE THREE MINUTE LIMIT MAY BE EXTENDED BY A MAJORITY VOTE OF THE COMMISSION.
I ENCOURAGE EVERYONE TO BE AS BRIEF AND TO THE POINT AS POSSIBLE.
PLEASE KEEP IN MIND THE COMMISSION CANNOT DISCUSS OR DELIBERATE ON ITEMS FOR WHICH PUBLIC NOTICE HAS NOT BEEN GIVEN ON THIS AGENDA.
ISSUES THAT CANNOT BE REFERRED TO ADMINISTRATION FOR ACTION.
THEY MAY BE CONSIDERED FOR PLACEMENT ON AN AGENDA OF A FUTURE P AND Z MEETING.
THANK YOU, TIM, THERE BEING NO ONE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK.
THIS CONCLUDES THE CITIZENS COMMENTS PORTION OF OUR AGENDA.
UH, THIS IS FOR GENERAL CITIZENS' COMMENTS.
IT'S NOT FOR A PARTICULAR AGENDA ITEM.
ITEM TWO A IS CONSIDER APPROVING THE MEETING MINUTES OF THE MAY 19TH, 2026 PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION, REGULAR MEETING.
ANY DISCUSSION? COMMISSIONERS? I NEED A MOTION MOVE TO APPROVE.
ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.
ALL OPPOSED? ABSTAINING WITH, UH, ABSTAINING ONE.
I WILL READ THE FOLLOWING ONE TIME, AND IT APPLIES TO ALL PUBLIC HEARINGS.
THE PUBLIC HEARINGS TODAY ARE BEING HELD FOR THE PURPOSE OF GIVING ALL INTERESTED PERSONS THE RIGHT TO EXPRESS THEIR VIEWS REGARDING THE SUBJECT OF THE PUBLIC HEARINGS.
EVERYONE DESIRING TO BE A PART OF TODAY'S HEARING SHOULD HAVE EITHER SIGNED THE APPROPRIATE LIST IN THE FOYER OR EMAILED THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT PRIOR TO THE POSTED TIME OF THIS MEETING.
EACH PARTICIPANT SHALL GIVE HIS OR HER NAME AND ADDRESS IN ORDER TO PROVIDE A PROPER RECORD OF THIS HEARING.
THE RULES ALLOW EACH PERSON THREE MINUTES TO PRESENT INFORMATION.
HOWEVER, I ENCOURAGE EVERYONE TO BE AS BRIEF AND TO THE POINT AS POSSIBLE.
IF YOU ARE A GROUP OF PERSONS WISHING TO ADDRESS THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION OF THE SAME SUBJECT, PLEASE SELECT A SPOKESPERSON TO PRESENT THE INFORMATION.
AND IF ANYONE HAS ANY QUESTIONS, PLEASE DIRECT THEM TO ME.
ITEM THREE, A ZONING, CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDER A REQUEST TO AMEND THE OFFICIAL ZONING MAP TO REZO APPROXIMATELY 10.34 ACRES AT 71 28 NORTH MAIN STREET FROM OPEN SPACE RECREATIONAL TO GENERAL COMMERCIAL AND GENERAL COMMERCIAL TO FREEWAY COMMERCIAL.
IT IS NOW 5:08 PM AND I CALL THIS PUBLIC HEARING TO ORDER TO CONSIDER ITEM THREE A.
AND TIM, THANK YOU FOR SUMMARIZING THE ITEM.
SO GOOD EVENING, MAD CHAIR AND THE COMMISSIONERS, TIM CHI HERE WITH CITY'S, UH, PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.
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SO BEFORE YOU THIS AFTERNOON, WE HAVE THIS ZONING MAP AMENDMENT APPLICATION.SO THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT THE NORTHEASTERN CORNER OF THE INTERSECTION OF INTERSTATE I 10 AND THE NORTH MAIN STREET AT 7 1 2 8 NORTH MAIN STREET.
AND HERE'S THE VICINITY MAP ON THE SCREEN.
THE NEXT ONE SAYS ZOOMING VICINITY.
SO THE APPROXIMATELY 10.34 ACRE SUBJECT PROPERTY INCLUDES AREA ZONED OPEN SPACE RECREATION, OR, AND THE GENERAL COMMERCIAL GC, THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING TO REZONE THE SITE FROM OR AND GC TO FREEWAY COMMERCIAL FC TO ALLOW FOR THE FUTURE DEVELOPMENT OF A GAS STATION, ELECTRIC VEHICLE CHARGING STATION, AND THE RETAIL CENTER.
SO ON THE SCREEN WE SEE THE CURRENT ZONING MAP.
YOU CAN SEE THE GREEN AREA IS THE OR, AND IS A THIN STRIP, ABOUT 50 FOOT, UH, WIDE STRIP IN GC GENERAL COMMERCIAL.
HERE IS THE CITY'S FUTURE LAND USE MAP.
UH, THE WHOLE AREA, AS YOU CAN SEE, IS DESIGNATED AS A LARGE SCALE COMMERCIAL AREA.
HERE IS THE PROPOSED ZONING MAP.
AGAIN, THE APPLICANT PROPOSES TO REZONE THE SUBJECT PROPERTY FROM OR, AND THE GC TWO FREEWAY COMMERCIAL FC.
HERE ARE A COUPLE OF THE, UH, SIDE PICTURES.
SO THIS IS LIKE, UH, FACING THE NORTH WITH THE SUBJECT SIDE.
ON YOUR RIGHT HAND SIDE, THE EAST, HERE'S THE SUBJECT SIDE.
ON THE, UH, ON YOUR LEFT HAND SIDE, WELL SHOULD BE MY, MY LEFT HAND SIDE AND IS FACING SOUTH, WHICH IS ITEM EAST.
HERE'S LIKE THE CONCEPTUAL SITE PLAN THE APPLICANT HAS SHARED WITH US.
AND, UH, BASED ON THE EXISTING CONDITION AND THE CITY'S FUTURE LAND USE MAP, UH, STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF LISA REQUEST TO ALLOW THE REZONING FROM OR AND GC TO FREEWAY COMMERCIAL AT 7 1 2 8 NORTH MAIN STREET.
IS ANYONE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK? CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE PICTURE? THE JOURNAL? YEAH.
BECAUSE SOME CAN SEE IF YOU SIGNED UP THE ONE.
UM, UH, PLEASE REMEMBER TOO THAT THE, THE SITE PLAN THAT YOU HAVE IS NOT AN APPROVED SITE PLAN.
THIS IS, REMEMBER WE'RE REZONING TO FREEWAY COMMERCIAL AND WHATEVER IS ALLOWED BY FREEWAY COMMERCIAL IS WHAT YOU'RE BASICALLY SAYING.
SO THIS, THIS IS AN EXAMPLE, BUT THIS HAS NOT BEEN THROUGH THE WHOLE PROCESS YET.
SO UNDOUBTEDLY THIS SITE PLAN WOULD CHANGE SOMEWHAT.
CAN YOU, CAN YOU REFRESH US ON WHAT FREEWAY COMMERCIAL ALLOWS? YOU MEAN? CAN YOU REFRESH US ON WHAT FREEWAY? FREEWAY COMMERCIAL ALLOWS? OH, OKAY.
UM, I DON'T REMEMBER THE EXACT CONTENT OF REAR COMMERCIAL, BUT I CAN TELL YOU WHAT THE APPLICANT PROPOSES, SUCH AS A GAS STATION, ELECTRICAL CHARGING STATION, AND THE RETAIL CENTERS.
AND ALSO I THINK MULTIFAMILY LEASE, UH, ALL PERMITTED IN THE FC FREEWHEEL COMMERCIAL ZONE DISTRICT.
AND THE, IN TERMS OF FUNCTION, UH, THE FC IS VERY SIMILAR WITH, UH, UH, GENERAL COMMERCIAL AS WELL.
UH, UH, JUST A LITTLE CLARITY, FREEWAY COMMERCIAL IS OUR LAND USE DESIGNATION THAT'S HIGHER THAN GENERAL COMMERCIAL, BUT LESS INTENSE THAN LIGHT INDUSTRIAL.
IT DOES ALLOW, UH, THE VAST MAJORITY OF USES IN GENERAL COMMERCIAL, HOWEVER, SOME OF THE LIGHTER INDUSTRIAL.
UM, BUT ONE THING IT DOESN'T ALLOW, IT DOESN'T ALLOW MULTIFAMILY, IT DOES ALLOW FOR APARTMENT
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DWELLINGS.SO, UH, THIS IS AN AREA THAT WE TYPICALLY LOOK AT FLEX BUILDINGS, THINGS THAT HAVE, UM, THAT GENERAL COMMERCIAL SITE WHERE YOU CAN HAVE PEOPLE TO GO THROUGH, UH, THEY CAN GET, UM, PURCHASE, UH, WE'LL SAY FLOORING AND INTO THE REAR OF THE STRUCTURE, THEY MAY HAVE THE AREA, THE HOLD THAT FLOORING.
SO IT HAS THINGS SUCH AS THAT.
YOU CAN HAVE OUTDOOR STORAGE AS LONG AS IT'S BEHIND OPAQUE FENCING AND THINGS AS OF THAT.
SO IT'S NOT AS INTENSIVE AS LIGHT INDUSTRIAL, BUT IT DOES AFFORD A LITTLE MORE THINGS THAN GENERAL COMMERCIAL DOES.
SO IF WE APPROVE THIS, THEN THEY COULD ACTUALLY COME IN AND NOT BUILD THIS AT ALL.
THEY COULD BUILD SOMETHING ELSE THAT IS CORRECT.
IF, IF THIS WAS APPROVED ANY RIGHT.
THAT IS ALLOWED BY RIGHT UNDER FREEWAY COMMERCIAL AND WITH THE LIMITED, UH, DESIGNATION, AS LONG AS THEY MEET THOSE CONTINGENCIES, IT WOULD BE ALLOWED BY WRIGHT WITHIN THIS ZONING DISTRICT.
THIS IS LIKE ANY OTHER REZONE THAT WE DO.
WE, WE, AS WE SAY, REZONE OF THE MAP, NOT TO THE PICTURE.
BECAUSE THE MAP IS GONNA ACTUALLY, UM, TIM, CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE, THE PROPOSED ZONING MAP? LET, LET'S, LET'S KIND OF KEEP AN EYE ON THAT.
THAT'S REALLY WHAT WE'RE, WHAT, WHAT THE REQUEST IS BECAUSE YEAH.
WE CAN'T HOLD THEM TO IT UNLESS WE WERE DOING A PUD OR A SPECIAL USE PERMIT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
SO WE'RE JUST TALKING ABOUT THAT ONE PARTICULAR ACREAGE.
WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT THE ACREAGE TO THE NORTH AND EAST OF THAT.
WE HAVE THREE PEOPLE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK.
UM, MR. WARNER? MR. WARNER? TONY WARNER? OR IS IT MS. TONY WARNER.
WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK? UM, YES.
WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK? IF THERE IS ANY CLARIFICATION, WOULD YOU PLEASE COME UP? YEAH, WE MIGHT HAVE SOME QUESTIONS FOR YOU.
AND SEAN ACKERMAN, IS THAT YOU ALSO? YEAH.
IF THERE ARE ANY CLARIFICATIONS THAT WE CAN OFFER, IF YOU HAVE GUYS ANY QUESTIONS, BECAUSE THE USE THAT YOU SAW IS EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE PROCEEDING WITH.
UH, THAT SITE PLAN IS, HAS BEEN REWORKED SINCE THE PREVIOUS MEETING HAS BEEN CANCELED.
SO BETWEEN THE LAST TWO MONTHS, THAT SITE PLAN HAS BEEN REVISED.
WE HAVE, UH, RETAIL CENTERS, TWO OF THEM ON THE PROPERTY SIMILAR TO WHAT YOU SEE HERE.
AND WE HAVE PADS, UH, SECTIONED OFF THE PROPERTY.
WAIT, WE'RE GONNA ASK YOU FOR, UH, WE, WE DID THIS LITTLE IN REVERSE.
IF YOU STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS PLEASE.
ANY, ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. PAUL? COMMISSIONERS? WHAT DID, WHAT IS YOUR TITLE WITH THIS PROJECT? I'M THE ARCHITECT.
MR. ACKERMAN, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD? OH, I'M SEAN ACKERMAN, UH, WITH HENRY S. MILLER BROKERAGE.
I'M THE BROKER FOR THE PROPERTY AND I'VE WORKED WITH THIS, UH, DEVELOPER FOR A LONG PERIOD OF TIME.
I KIND OF HANDLE THE SCOPE OF WORK BETWEEN THE ARCHITECT AND THE DEVELOPER.
UM, I'M AT 900 THREAD NEEDLE, SUITE ONE 20, HOUSTON, TEXAS 7 7 0 7 9.
ONE THING TO NOTE ON THE PROPERTY, THERE USED TO BE A GAS STATION THERE, SO WE'RE BASICALLY JUST PUTTING A GAS STATION BACK, BUT A BEAUTIFUL ONE.
THERE'S NOT GONNA BE A TRUCK STOP OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
AND BASICALLY THERE'LL BE TWO PADS ALONG THE ACCESS ROAD, THREE PADS ALONG THE FRONT, AND JUST REGULAR RETAIL.
SO THE GOAL HERE IS TO BE LIKE, YOU KNOW, POPEYE'S, A BANK, A CHASE BANK, THAT KIND OF THING.
MO MOSTLY FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD BECAUSE OF THE NORTH WHERE THE NEW HE B'S GOING IN, IT KIND OF FEEDS THAT WHOLE NEIGHBORHOOD.
YOU KNOW, SHIPLEY'S DONUTS WITH A DRIVE THROUGH.
SO WE'RE TRYING TO BRING MORE RETAIL TO THE MARKET.
THERE'S A BIG BOY, SO THAT'S KIND OF THE TARGET HERE.
AND THE DEVELOPER THAT'S DOING IT, THAT'S ALL HE'S BEEN DOING.
HE'S CONVERTING OLD WALGREENS TO GAS STATIONS WITH A BUNCH OF PADS.
SO, UH, WHICH WE CAN SUPPLY THAT LATER ON WHEN WE, UH, SUBMIT THE SITE PLAN.
BUT FOR NOW, THAT'S THE GOAL OF THE PROPERTY.
HOW LONG AGO WAS THAT A GAS STATION? 'CAUSE THE LAST BUILDING THERE WAS A, WAS A ILLEGAL GAMBLING HOUSE.
AND IT WAS A CHURCH BEFORE THAT.
MATTER OF FACT, WHEN WE HAD OUR PHASE TWO TO TEST IT, YOU KNOW, TEST THE SOIL, UH, THEY MADE US TEST MAINLY THAT CORNER WHERE THE OLD GAS STATION WAS WITH THE TANKS TO THE NORTH OF IT.
SO ALL THAT'S GONNA BE REMOVED.
THAT'S GONNA BE, LIKE I SAID, THE GAS STATION WILL BE BASICALLY A NEWER GAS STATION.
UH, AND THEN THERE'LL BE, UH, UH, EV PUMP, UH, EV STATIONS AND THEN PADS ALONG NORTH MAIN.
WELL, WE HOPE YOU STAY IF YOU DO A GAS STATION.
'CAUSE WE WENT FROM GAS STATION TO WHAT? A STRIP CENTER,
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A STRIP JOINT TO A MICROPHONE ON MY MICROPHONE IS ON.AND IT'LL BE A GAS STATION WITH RETAIL, LIKE, UH, I THINK WE'RE WORKING WITH LIKE IHOP AND A FEW OTHERS.
HAVE YOU EVER SEEN ONE OF THOSE? AND THEN THE DOORS WILL JUST BE PAD SO IT'LL BE BASICALLY 80% RETAIL.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THERE BEING NO ONE ELSE DESIRING TO SPEAK ON THAT CLOSE THIS PUBLIC HEARING AT 5:19 PM REQUESTING A A TO AMEND THE OFFICIAL REZONE APPROXIMATELY 10.34 ACRES AT 7 1 2 8 NORTH MAIN STREET FROM OPEN SPACE RECREATION AND GENERAL COMMERCIAL TO FREEWAY COMMERCIAL.
ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION COMMISSIONERS? OH, I WOULD LIKE TO SAY IS I, I SUPPORT THIS CONSIDERING THE FACT THAT IT IS ON THE FREEWAY AND GOING THROUGH WHAT WE DID BEFORE WITH THE ULDC, UM, AND UPDATES IN, IN FREEWAY COMMERCIAL, WHAT IS AND WHAT IS NOT.
THEN THIS, I MEAN, WHATEVER FITS WITHIN FREEWAY COMMERCIAL AND A PROPERTY ON THE FREEWAY MAKES SENSE TO ME.
THERE WAS THE CONCERN OF, IN THAT PICTURE, IT DID SHOW WHAT LOOKED LIKE TRUCKS, BUT I'M TAKING YOUR WORD FOR WHAT IT IS.
AND IF IT WAS THAT YOU WOULD HAVE TO COME BACK.
SO YEAH, TO MAKE THAT CHANGE, IT'S DEFINITELY RESTRICTED.
I, WE TOOK THE THANK YOU COURT.
UM, THIS PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW CLOSED.
I NEED A MOTION TO MOVE FOR APPROVAL.
ANY OPPOSED? ANY ABSTENTIONS? THIS MOTION CARRIES.
WE MOVE ON TO ITEM THREE B ZONING.
CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDER A REQUEST FOR A SPECIAL USE PERMIT, A SUP ON APPROXIMATELY 31.124 ACRES LOCATED AT 1 0 1 0 8 OLD NEEDLE POINT ROAD TO ALLOW FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF MULTI-FAMILY DWELLINGS TO BE DESIGNED AS STANDALONE RENTAL UNITS WITHIN THE FREEWAY COMMERCIAL ZONING DISTRICT.
THANK YOU, SIR, FOR SUMMARIZING THIS ITEM, TALBERT.
UH, FOR THE RECORD, TALBERT JACKSON, SENIOR PLANNER, CITY OF BAYTOWN.
UM, THE PROPOSED PROP, THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT, UM, LOCATED AT 1 0 1 0 8 OLD NEEDLEPOINT ROAD.
UH, THE APPLICANT, UM, IS SEEKING A SPECIAL USE PERMIT TO ALLOW FOR, UH, MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT TO HAVE A, AN, AN ALTERNATIVE DESIGN THAT CONFORMS THAT MAY CONFORM WITH, UM, APARTMENT DWELLINGS, WHICH WOULD BE ALLOWED IN THE FREEWAY COMMERCIAL ZONING DISTRICT.
UM, THE, THE DISTRICT IN AND OF ITSELF DOES NOT ALLOW FOR ANY OTHER FORM OF RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT EXCEPT APARTMENT DWELLINGS.
UM, AND A, AN OPPORTUNITY PRESENTED ITSELF WHEREIN THE DEPARTMENT MAY RECOMMEND THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE A SPECIAL USE PERMIT, UM, PROVIDING THAT THERE ARE CERTAIN CONDITIONS IN ORDER TO ALLOW THIS PARTICULAR TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT TO QUALIFY AS APARTMENT DWELLINGS, WHICH WOULD BE PERMISSIBLE WITHIN THE FREEWAY COMMERCIAL ZONING DISTRICT.
UH, THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED AS YOU CAN SEE HERE ON THE VICINITY MAP, UH, NORTH OF OLD NEEDLE POINT ROAD, UM, ALSO ALONG CHAMBERS COMMONS DRIVE.
THIS IS WITHIN THE CHAMBERS COMMONS AREA.
THE CURRENT ZONING MAP IS FREEWAY COMMERCIAL.
UH, THE AREA IS, UM, HASHED OUT HERE WITH THE, WITH THE DARK, UH, BLACK BORDER.
THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP IS, UH, HAS THE AREA, UH, CLASSIFIED AS LARGE SCALE COMMERCIAL, UM, TAKING A VISIT TO THE SITE IN ORDER TO PLACE, UH, DEVELOPMENT, UH, PERMIT SIGNS FOR PUBLIC NOTICE.
UH, THIS IS ONE OF THE PHOTOS OF THE, THE AREA IS CURRENTLY VACANT.
UM, THIS IS ON EAST CIRCLE DRIVE AT OLD NEEDLEPOINT ROAD FACING NORTHWEST.
THIS PHOTO HERE IS ON OLD NEEDLEPOINT ROAD AT EAST CIRCLE DRIVE, UH, FACING SOUTHWEST.
AND THIS PHOTO HERE IS ON OLD NEEDLE POINT ROAD FACING SOUTH, AS YOU CAN SEE HERE.
THIS IS TO FURTHER VERIFY AND CLARIFY THE FREEWAY COMMERCIAL ZONING DISTRICT AS IT PERTAINS TO RESIDENTIAL USES, UM, ONLY ALLOWING FOR APARTMENT DWELLINGS.
UH, THE P STANDS FOR PERMISSIBLE FOR ANYONE THAT MAY BE LOOKING AT THIS TABLE, TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THIS MEANS.
AND THIS TABLE IS LOCATED WITHIN OUR, UM, UNIFIED LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, OR AS WE ALL, UM, PRETTY MUCH CALL THE ULDC.
UH, WHAT HAS WHAT HAS BEEN PROVIDED BY THE APPLICANT,
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UM, IS A PRELIMINARY CONCEPT PLAN OF HOW THE, THE, UM, THE PROJECT WOULD BE POTENTIAL WOULD POTENTIALLY BE DEVELOPED.UM, INCORPORATES 301 TOTAL HOMES, UH, WHEREIN SOME OF THE UNITS THAT YOU SEE IN THE RED ON THE UPPER RIGHT HAND CORNER REPRESENTS, UH, SENIOR HOUSING.
UM, AND THEN THERE ARE DIFFERENT CLASSIFICATIONS THAT THE APPLICANT HAS PROVIDED, UM, WITH DIFFERENT COLOR SHADES.
SO THE LIGHT BLUE THAT YOU'LL SEE ON THE UPPER LEFT HAND CORNER WOULD REPRESENT THREE BEDROOMS. UM, AND, AND THE APPLICANT HAS, HAS COINED THE TERM, UH, HORIZONTAL MULTIFAMILY.
UM, IN ORDER TO, UM, UH, TO ENSURE THAT IT CAN IN FACT COMPLY WITH THE, UM, APARTMENT DWELLING CLASSIFICATION WITHIN THE FREEWAY COMMERCIAL ZONING DISTRICT.
UH, THIS IS ONE OF THE PROPOSED RENDERINGS OF WHAT SOME OF THE, THE UNITS MAY LOOK LIKE.
ADDITIONALLY, THE APPLICANT HAS PROVIDED, UH, THIS RENDERING AS WELL, THIS ELEVATION OF WHAT THE BUILDING SOME OF THE BUILDINGS, UH, WOULD LOOK LIKE INCORPORATES LANDSCAPING, UM, PARKING.
AND, UM, AS A RESULT, UH, AFTER, AFTER REVIEW AND RECOMMENDATION FROM, UM, FROM THE DEPARTMENT, UH, TO UTILIZE THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT PROCESS, UH, STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT.
UM, THE STAFF REPORT PROVIDES EIGHT, UH, CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL.
AND, UM, OF NOTE, UH, THAT'S PROVIDED HERE IN THE SLIDES, UH, WE'RE GOING TO BE REQUIRING A PLAT, UM, AS WELL AS ENSURING THAT NO INDIVIDUAL STRUCTURE SHALL BE SOLD AS AN INDIVIDUAL UNIT.
IT'S TO ENSURE THAT THE ENTIRE PROPERTY SERVES AS APARTMENT DWELLINGS AND THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE SOLD INDIVIDUALLY.
SO IF THERE WERE TO BE A SALE, FOR EXAMPLE, IF THERE WERE TO BE A SALE IN THE FUTURE, THE SALE WOULD HAVE TO BE FOR THE ENTIRE PROPERTY AS OPPOSED TO INDIVIDUAL UNITS.
UM, ALSO THAT A TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS, A TIA WOULD BE REQUIRED.
UM, AS IT PERTAINS TO CITIZEN COMMENTS THAT WE'VE RECEIVED, UM, OVER, OVER THE PAST FEW DAYS, UM, THE PROJECT, UM, THE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL ALSO ADDRESS SOME OF THE CONCERNS THAT THE CITIZENRY HAVE HAD ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT.
SOME OF THOSE, UM, CONCERNS INCLUDE PRIVACY, UM, TRAFFIC, UM, POTENTIAL BUFFERS, UH, AND, AND STORMWATER CONCERNS.
UM, SO OF THE EIGHT CONDITIONS, UH, THERE ARE CONDITIONS THAT ADDRESS THESE ISSUES SUCH AS THE TIA REQUIREMENT.
UM, ADDITIONALLY THEY'LL BE REQUIRED TO HAVE A LANDSCAPE PLAN, UM, AND ALSO A STORMWATER PERMIT.
A STORMWATER PERMIT WOULD BE REQUIRED.
UM, SO THERE WILL BE A REVIEW OF FROM STAFF, UM, ENSURING THAT STORMWATER RUNOFF IS, IS NOT GOING TO BE A CONCERN FOR THE ADJACENT RESIDENCES IN THE AREA.
AND WITH THAT, UM, I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
UM, BEFORE WE PROCEED, I'D LIKE TO, UH, GO BACK AND NOTE THAT WE OPENED THIS PUBLIC HEARING AT 5:20 PM WE HAVE AN I'D LIKE, UM, V MARTIN TO TELL ME HOW YOU WANNA HANDLE THE HANDWRITTEN OR WRITE-INS OF CITIZENS' COMMENTS.
SO THE CITIZENS' COMMENTS WERE PROVIDED TO YOU, UM, AT, AT YOUR SEAT.
SO IF YOU WANTED TO TAKE A MOMENT TO READ THEM, I DON'T THINK WE HAVE TO READ THEM INTO THE, UM, INTO THE, THE RECORD OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, BUT THEY'RE HERE FOR YOUR REFERENCE.
UM, AGAIN, UH, TALBERT WENT AHEAD AND, AND SORT OF SUMMARIZED WHAT, WHAT THOSE SAY.
UM, IF YOU'D LIKE MORE DETAIL ON THAT, I, I'M SURE TALBERT CAN PROVIDE A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL.
UM, IF YOU WANTED TO READ THEM OR READ ONE IN, I MEAN YOU CAN DO THAT.
UM, OTHERWISE IT'S JUST A MATTER OF OKAY, THEY'RE HERE FOR YOU FOR YOUR INFORMATION.
AND IF ANYBODY FROM THE PUBLIC WOULD WANT TO SEE THAT AS WELL, THEY COULD DO A PUBLIC INFORMATION REQUEST, WHICH WE WOULD PROVIDE AFTER THE FACT.
CAN WE NOT JUST INCLUDE 'EM IN THE MINUTES? YES.
THAT'S WHAT I WAS GONNA RECOMMEND.
WE HAVE FOUR PEOPLE THAT WOULD KEEP SOMEBODY FROM HAVING TO GO DO A PUBLIC INFORMATION REQUEST.
THEY COULD JUST CALL ONLINE AND READ THE MINUTES.
WE HAVE FOUR PEOPLE SIGNED UP TO SPEED, STARTING WITH CRYSTAL WALLACE.
AND WHEN YOU COME UP, WE'RE GONNA ASK FOR YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.
I SAW HE WROTE IN ON ONE, MAYBE.
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OKAY.HE'S THE FIRST ONE AND HE SAID HE COULDN'T BE HERE.
AND SO I THINK THIS IS THE SAME.
WE CAN CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND THEN DO DISCUSSION.
OUR APPLICANT IS HERE AND I THINK WE'RE GONNA SAY FEW WORDS.
PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.
UM, 1 6 3 3 3 FIRE TOWER ROAD, CONROE, TEXAS.
UH, I JUST WANTED TO, UM, ADD THAT WE HAVE AN EXISTING PROJECT IN BAYTOWN ON HUNT ROAD.
IF YOU'VE DRIVEN DOWN HUNT ROAD RECENTLY.
THAT'S WHAT, AND SEEN THE COTTAGE GREEN PROJECT.
THIS IS, UM, A DERIVATIVE PRODUCT OF THAT.
WE'RE ADDING A FEW THINGS THAT WE DON'T HAVE AT THE, UH, COTTAGE GREEN PROJECT.
WE'RE GIVING IT A DIFFERENT NAME.
WE ACTUALLY HAVE A PROJECT IN CONROE THAT'S REAL SIMILAR TO THIS.
IT'S, UH, CALLED BOARDWALK VILLAGE.
AND UM, THIS IS THE CLOSEST THING TO THE ONE IN CONROE THAT WE'RE GONNA BE BUILDING.
I HAVE, UM, PICTURES OF WHAT OUR PRODUCT LOOKS LIKE, AS WELL AS SOME OTHER HANDOUTS AND THINGS, THINGS LIKE THAT.
IF YOU WANT 'EM, I'LL BE HAPPY TO HAND 'EM OUT.
UM, JUST START OVER HERE ON THE SIDE OR, OKAY, I'LL TAKE THAT PACKET.
YOU ALREADY SAW THE SITE PLAN AND YOU ALREADY SAW A COUPLE OF THE RENDERINGS.
SO THIS WOULD BE A PACKET OF SOME, THIS WOULD BE A PACKET OF SOME PRO PRODUCT THAT WE'VE ALREADY BUILT IN THE PAST, UM, INCLUDING PROBABLY FROM HUNT ROAD.
I'M FAMILIAR HERE WITH COTTAGE GREEN.
I JUST FOUND SOME, WE NEED ONE MORE.
WHAT IS THE STATUS OF THE PROJECT ON HOME GROVE? YEAH, SO WE'RE IN LEASE UP.
SO BEFORE WE START ASKING QUESTIONS, CAN I CLOSE THIS PUBLIC HEARING? THEN DO A DISCUSSION.
ANY DISCUSSION? COMMISSIONERS? THANK YOU.
UH, YEAH, SO THE QUESTION WAS, WHAT'S THE STATUS OF THE ONE ON HUNT ROAD? SO WE'RE, WE'RE IN LEASE UP.
UH, WE'RE ACTUALLY SHOULD BE, WE SHOULD HAVE OUR FINAL CO THIS MONTH IN THE NEXT COUPLE DAYS, ACTUALLY.
OR NOT COUPLE DAYS, BUT BEFORE THE END OF THE MONTH, WHICH IS A COUPLE DAYS, I SUPPOSE.
UM, AND UM, SO THAT SHOULD BE A FINAL CO.
UH, WE HAVE A ROUGHLY, I THINK KELLY'S HERE.
I I THINK WE HAVE ROUGHLY 35%, 55%.
I WANNA STEP UP PLEASE TO THE MICROPHONE.
STATE YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS PLEASE, MA'AM.
HI, I'M KELLY AMMONS, 2 8 9 0 3 IN CHANTER DRIVE, SHENANDOAH, TEXAS 7 7 3 8 1.
UM, WE'RE CURRENTLY OCCUPIED AT 45% AND THEN PRE-LEASED AT 55.
OUR FIRST, UH, RESIDENT WAS ON MARCH 1ST OF THIS YEAR.
SO IT'S BEEN, UH, PRETTY IN DEMAND.
YEAH, WE'RE, WE'RE ABSORBING ABOUT 20 TO 25 A MONTH, SO THERE'S ONLY 200 AND SOMETHING OF 'EM, LIKE 203.
SO WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE PLANS FOR THE NEXT ONE.
UM, IT'S A GOOD CROSS SECTION OF PEOPLE AND, UM, THE, WE'RE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THIS THROUGH PROPERTY.
ANY DISCUSSION? COMMISSIONERS? I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.
UM, I MET WITH CALVIN AND MARTIN LAST MONTH ON THIS 'CAUSE IT WAS ON THE AGENDA AND ASKED A BUNCH OF QUESTIONS AND I WAS PRETTY OKAY.
BUT I WAS UNDER THE IMPRESSION IN THAT CONVERSATION THAT THESE WERE ALL GONNA BE ONE LEVEL.
THERE WASN'T GONNA BE ANY MULTIPLE LEVEL.
PARDON? AND EVIDENTLY I'M MISTAKEN ABOUT THAT.
BECAUSE THAT'S ALSO WHAT WE WERE TOLD WHEN DURING THE HUNT DISCUSSIONS AND I SEE ALL THE TWO LEVELS OUT THERE.
YEAH, WELL, UM, THAT THE PLAN ON HUNT WAS ALWAYS TO HAVE SOME TWO LEVELS.
I MEAN, IT WAS NEVER, IT WAS NEVER, EVER COMMUNICATED THERE, THERE WOULDN'T BE TWO LEVELS.
IN FACT, OUR ENTIRE PRODUCT LINE IS BUILT AROUND WHAT WE CALL AN INTERNAL MAIN STREET THAT IS TWO LEVELS, LOTS OF FRONT PORCHES IF YOU, IF YOU'VE EVER DRIVEN IN THE HUNT PROPERTY.
AND THEN EVERYTHING ON THE PERIMETER IS ONE STORY.
AND THAT'S GONNA BE THE EXACT SAME SCENARIO HERE TOO.
SO WHAT'S WHAT'S NICE ABOUT THIS PRODUCT IS IT'S MULTIFAMILY IN A DIFFERENT WAY.
SO INSTEAD OF HAVING THE EXACT SAME THING, THERE'S ALREADY SOME MULTI-FAMILY BUILT
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BESIDE US THERE.I THINK THE NAME OF THE PROJECT IS CALLED THE BORROW.
AND, UM, INSTEAD OF DOING THE EXACT SAME THING NEXT DOOR, THIS IS SOMETHING ENTIRELY DIFFERENT.
UM, AND THEN ALSO THERE'S SOME SINGLE FAMILY, UH, UH, TO THE SOUTH OF US.
SO IT'S NICE ABOUT THIS, INSTEAD OF HAVING TWO, THREE STORIES BESIDE THE SINGLE FAMILY, IT ONLY HAS ONE STORY BESIDE THE SINGLE FAMILY.
SO, UM, I I I, I APPRECIATE THE LAYOUT THAT THE FACT THAT THEY'RE ALL KIND OF STANDALONE IN THE PROCESS.
AND I, THE, THE SENIOR HOUSING WAS NOT IN THE DISCUSSION THAT WE HAD LAST MONTH, BUT I'M GLAD TO SEE THAT IT'S THERE BECAUSE WE NEED MORE OF THAT THERE IN THE RECOMMENDATIONS ON THE, UH, THREE AND FOUR.
IT SAYS YOU FIRST REFERENCED THAT THEY, THAT THEY HAVE TO BE, UH, THEY CANNOT BE SOLD INDIVIDUALLY AND THEN WE COME BACK AND YOUR RECOMMENDATION AND WE MAKE AN ALLOWANCE IF THEY ARE SOLD INDIVIDUALLY THAT THEY HAVE TO HAVE A CONDOMINIUM.
SO WHICH IS IT? ARE WE GONNA ALLOW 'EM TO DO INDIVIDUAL CELLS OR NOT? WELL, THE, THE WHOLE POINT OF THE CONDITION WAS SO THAT THEY WOULD NOT SELL THEM INDIVIDUALLY.
WELL, THAT'S NOT WHAT IT SAYS.
THAT, YOU KNOW, THE, THE, THE RECOMMENDATION THAT WE APPROVE IT AS IS SAYS THAT THE FORMATION OF THE A CONDOMINIUM STATION, IF THEY WERE SO SHALL BE REQUIRED.
SO THAT LEAVES THE DOOR OPEN FOR THAT.
SO IF THAT'S YOUR RECOMMENDATION, WE NEED TO SAY THEY HAVE TO BE STANDALONE AND THEY CANNOT HAVE CONDOMINIUMS. WELL, I MEAN THAT'S, THAT'S, THIS IS PROPERTY, RIGHT? I MEAN, THAT'S JUST HOW IT WORKS.
UH, THE TALBERT, TALBERT JACKSON HERE, UM, THERE, THOSE, THAT IS A PREVIOUS ITERATION OF THE DRAFT OF THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS, UM, THE, THAT THAT RECOMMENDATION HAS BEEN MODIFIED.
UM, AND WE CAN, I WOULD RECOMMEND, UH, PROVIDING A, UM, APPROVAL OF RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL WITH CONDITIONS, UH, WITH THE AMENDED CONDITION THAT THE CONDOMINIUM ASSOCIATION IS NOT REQUIRED.
AND THAT IT BE AMENDED TO BE THAT EACH INDIVIDUAL, NO, NO INDIVIDUAL UNITS, UH, SHALL BE SOLD INDIVIDUALLY.
HAVE A QUESTION THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THEIR APPROVAL OR NOT BEFORE THE SENIORS THAT ARE ON THERE, THAT RENT MM-HMM
HOW ARE THE, HOW IS HOW, BECAUSE THEY'RE USUALLY ON FIXED INCOME.
HOW IS THEIR RENT INCREASES CONTROL? ARE THEY YEAH, THIS WOULD NOT BE, ARE THEY, ARE THE RENT INCREASES UP WITH, KEPT UP WITH MARKET? OR DO THEY GET SOME KIND OF FAVOR BECAUSE SENIORS HAVE FIXED INCOMES? YEAH, SO THIS IS, UM, THIS IS NOT INTENDED TO BE THAT AT ALL.
UH, WE, THIS IS THE FIRST TIME WE'VE TRIED A SENIOR PRODUCT.
UH, WE'VE BEEN WANTING TO TRY ONE FOR SOME TIME.
AND THIS, THE LAYOUT OF THIS PROPERTY IS PERFECT FOR THAT.
AND, BUT IT IS NOT, UM, IT IS NOT AFFORDABLE SENIOR, THIS IS MARKET RACE SENIOR.
AND, UM, CAN I ALSO SPEAK TO THE TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS AND THE, THE DETENTION OR THE STORM DRAINAGE? SO, I'M SORRY.
CAN WE HAVE A MOMENT TO READ THROUGH THESE OR ARE WE GONNA READ THESE OUT LOUD? BECAUSE BEFORE WE CONTINUE WITH QUESTIONS TO HIM, I KIND OF WANNA KNOW WHAT THE PUBLIC IS SAYING.
YEAH, WE'LL TAKE FIVE MINUTES.
EVERYONE CAN READ THROUGH YOUR CALL.
DO YOU WANT TO SHARE IT? YOU READ ONE TO PASS IT OVER PLEASE?
UH, IN THE FUTURE WE'LL INCLUDE THOSE COMMENTS IN YOUR PACKETS.
THAT WAS BECAUSE OF LAST MONTH'S KIND OF SNAPPED THROUGH.
IT GOT A LITTLE DISCOMBOBULATED TO ANY OF THE PREVIOUS WHILE WE'RE READING THIS SPEAKERS, JUST WALK IN, MS. WALLACE.
MR. WALLACE, MR. BRADSHAW? NO.
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MADAM CHAIR.WILL WE READ THROUGH THIS? IS IT POSSIBLE TO BRING UP THE MAP OR THE PROPOSED PLAN? YES, SIR.
UM, PLEASE TELL, UM, GO BACK TO THE MAP.
REMEMBER GUYS, THE LONGER THIS TAKES TO READ, THE MORE YOU'RE EATING INTO YOUR VOLUNTEER APPRECIATION EVENT.
WAIT, WE HAVE LOST ALL HOPE FOR THE VOLUNTEER
I ALREADY MOVED ON TO MY STEAK.
BUT WE WILL ACCEPT YOU PROVIDING US WITH STEAK AT THE MARTIN VOLUNTEER.
THAT'S WHAT, THAT'S WHAT TAMMY MEANT.
I, I'LL TAKE CARE OF YOU GUYS.
I'VE READ THROUGH THESE AND I'M GONNA JUMP IN AND YOU GUYS CHIME IN.
IT SEEMS LIKE, UM, A COLLECTIVE CONCERN.
THE OTHERS SEEM TO HAVE A COLLECTIVE CONCERN ABOUT TRAFFIC AND ESPECIALLY BUFFERS, UM, EXCUSE ME.
AND, AND PRIVACY, UM, BETWEEN THIS DEVELOPMENT AND THE HOMES THAT ARE ADJACENT.
WOULD YOU LIKE TO ADDRESS THAT, MR. CRAWFORD? YES, SIR.
SO IS IT POSSIBLE TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT THE ONE OF THE AREA? SO THIS PROJECT IS PART OF A, A BIGGER DEVELOPMENT.
SO YOU CAN SEE THERE'S, UH, THE TRAILER PARK TO THE NORTH.
THERE'S THE NEW APARTMENTS THERE, THERE'S OUR SITE.
AND, UM, THERE'S A COUPLE OTHER THINGS COMING.
I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'VE BEEN ANNOUNCED OR NOT, BUT THERE'S A SEAFOOD RESTAURANT COMING.
THE BIGGER SITE IS ALSO FOR HEB.
UH, WHETHER THEY'LL DEVELOP OR NOT, IT'S YET TO BE SEEN.
BUT, UM, WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY IS THAT ENTIRE PROJECT, I FORGET HOW MANY ACRES, BUT IT'S ALL PART OF ONE BIG MASTER PLAN THAT WAS APPROVED.
SO IT HAD ITS OWN TRAFFIC STUDY FOR EVERYTHING, AND IT HAD
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ITS OWN DETENTION FOR EVERYTHING.SO YOU CAN SEE, UM, CAN, WELL THE AREA IN THE BACK OVER TO THE, THE WEST, THAT'S THE DETENTION FACILITY.
AND THEN THERE'S, UM, DRAINAGE CORRIDORS.
IN FACT, IF WE CAN GO TO THE SITE PLAN, WE WERE JUST LOOKING AT, YOU CAN SEE THE DRAINAGE CORRIDORS ON THAT ONE.
SO THERE'S, YOU SEE ALONG THE CUL-DE-SAC ROAD THERE, I FORGET THE NAME OF, OF THAT ROAD, BUT ALONG THERE THAT IS A BIG DRAINAGE, UM, A BAYOU RIGHT THERE.
AND THEN THERE'S ANOTHER ONE THAT RUNS, UH, UP TO THE NORTH, AND THEN THAT HITS THE, UH, THAT HITS THAT BIG DETENTION AREA.
SO THE DETENTION'S ALL SELF-CONTAINED AND THE TRAFFIC HAS ALREADY BEEN, UH, ABATED AND ADDED TO.
I'VE SEEN THE TRAFFIC STUDY, ALL THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT WERE PART OF THE TRAFFIC STUDY WERE MADE.
WE'VE HAD AN ADDITIONAL STUDY OF THE TRAFFIC, UM, STUDY DONE.
WE'VE ALREADY MET WITH ENGINEERING AND IT WOULD BE TURNED INTO THEM AT THAT TIME.
BUT THERE'S LOTS OF, UM, IMPROVEMENTS THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN MADE AS, OR ALL THE IMPROVEMENTS HAVE ALREADY BEEN MADE AS PART OF THE TRAFFIC STUDY.
NOW, AS FAR AS BUFFERS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, I WANT TO, I WANNA JUST REMIND YOU THAT WE ARE NOT BUILDING ANY TWO STORY OR THREE STORY ADJACENT TO THE NEIGHBOR'S PROPERTY, WHICH BY RIGHT.
THAT'S THE WHOLE REASON WE'RE HERE BY RIGHT.
WE COULD BUILD THREE STORY ON THIS AND WE WOULDN'T EVEN HAVE TO COME TO YOU.
WE'RE LITERALLY COMING, ASKING IF WE CAN BUILD ONE STORY INSTEAD OF THREE STORY.
I DON'T THINK THE STORIES ARE THE ISSUE.
I THINK IT'S THE, THE THE BUFFER BETWEEN YEAH.
MY MY POINT IS THAT YOU DON'T HAVE THREE STORIES OF HEIGHT LOOKING INTO SOMEBODY'S BACKYARD.
YOU LITERALLY HAVE ONE STORY OF HEIGHT.
IT'S ALREADY COMPLETELY FENCED.
AND THERE ARE, UM, MULTIFAMILY BUFFER REQUIREMENTS ALREADY IN THE ORDINANCE.
AND WE WILL COMPLY BY ALL THE BUFFER, UH, REQUIREMENTS THAT ARE ALREADY THERE.
ANY QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS ON TRAFFIC AND BUFFERS? I HAVE NO, GO AHEAD.
I THINK YOU JUST ANSWERED THAT QUESTION.
SO I'M VERY FAMILIAR WITH THAT DEAD END ROAD, UH, THAT THOSE TWO HOMES SIT ON.
AND, UH, TALBERT, WHAT ARE THE BUFFER REQUIREMENTS? HOLD ON.
UM, AS IT PERTAINS TO BUFFERS FOR, UM, ZONING DISTRICT CHANGES, THERE WOULDN'T BE ANY FOR, FOR THAT.
UH, WE WILL, UH, INCORPORATE A LANDSCAPE PLAN AS WELL AS GO THROUGH THE MULTI-FAMILY CODE REQUIREMENTS, UH, AND CALL OUT ANY BUFFER REQUIREMENTS DURING THE REVIEW PROCESS.
UM, BUT, UM, OUTSIDE OF THAT, UH, WITH THAT SPECIAL, THE, UM, APPROVALS OR CONDITION, THE CONDITION OF A LANDSCAPE PLAN, WE CAN ALSO INCORPORATE, UM, THAT TYPE OF ANY, UM, BUFFER REQUIREMENT THAT WE WOULD FIND IN THE ULDC AND OR, UH, RECOMMEND THAT THE APPLICANT PROVIDE.
JUST ASKED ME A QUESTION ABOUT WHEN WE, WHEN WE ORIGINALLY CAME AND TALKED ABOUT, WE CAME TO THE STAFF AND THEY SAID, LOOK, UM, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO COME DO A SPECIAL USE PERMIT BECAUSE WE'RE, WE'RE NOT REALLY SURE HOW THIS FITS IN WITH MULTIFAMILY.
I BELIEVE AT THAT TIME WE DID NOT HAVE THAT SENIOR PROPERTY UNDER CONTRACT.
SO I THINK THAT'S MAYBE WHY THE NUMBERS WENT UP.
SO WE WERE HAVING A DISCUSSION, UM, CAPPED OUT AT 3 0 1.
I CAN'T FIT ANYTHING ELSE ON IT AS OUR CAT.
I WILL SAY, IF WE WERE TO USE THE EXISTING MULTIFAMILY STANDARD THAT WE HAVE HERE, I THINK IT'S 15 UNITS TO THE ACRE.
16, 400 UP TO 450 HOMES UNITS WE COULD BUILD.
SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE THAT POINT.
ONE, ONE, UM, CITIZEN WROTE IN THAT THEY, AND THIS IS SOMETHING STAFF CAN ANSWER, THAT THEY WERE CONFUSED ABOUT WHAT, WHAT PROPERTY IT WAS.
WAS IT A FORMER GAS STATION, ET CETERA.
THIS PROPERTY, I THINK THERE WAS A, A LETTER THAT WAS FOR THE OTHER THAT GOT PUT INTO THIS, THAT GOT PUT INTO THIS.
IF, IF YOU'LL ALLOW ME, I WANNA MAKE SURE TOO THAT EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS THAT AS WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE PREVIOUS, UM, ITEM ON THE AGENDA, THAT THAT IS A STRAIGHT REZONE.
AND THAT IS SOMETHING WHERE WE'RE SAYING, OKAY, ANYTHING THAT'S ALLOWED IN THAT ZONE IS NOW ALLOWED IN THAT ZONE.
THIS, REMEMBER, IS A SPECIAL USE PERMIT.
SO YOU CAN BE AS SPECIFIC, YOU CAN ADD OR AS NON-SPECIFIC AS YOU WANT.
YOU CAN ADD REASONABLE CONDITIONS AS LONG AS YOU HAVE A A, A GOOD REASON FOR THAT, WHICH IS KIND OF WHAT STAFF HAS TRIED TO PROVIDE HERE.
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WE BELIEVE THAT THESE ARE REASONABLE, UH, UH, CONDITIONS GIVEN WHAT HAS BEEN, UH, PROVIDED TO US.UH, WE ALSO WOULD LOOK AT THAT AND SAY, THIS SITE PLAN IS GENERAL, GENERALLY WHAT WE WOULD BE LOOKING TO DO.
AND THAT IS, AGAIN, PART OF THIS PROCESS.
IF THEY WERE TO DO, SAY, UM, TIM CAME IN LATER AND SAID, WELL, WE'RE GONNA, WE'RE GONNA BACK THAT DOWN BY 10 UNITS OR 20 UNITS, WE WOULD ABSOLUTELY ALLOW THAT AND NOT MAKE 'EM COME BACK THROUGH THIS PROCESS.
IF HE CAME IN AND SAID, WE'RE GONNA REWORK THE ENTIRE SITE, WE WOULD HAVE TO COME BACK THROUGH THIS PROCESS.
SO, UM, SO I KNOW THAT YOUR APPLICANT IS IN A PLACE WHERE, WHERE THEY'RE FEELING LIKE THIS IS, YOU KNOW, 90% OF, OF WHAT IT IS THEY HAVE AS A VISION.
BUT YOU'LL NOTE THERE'S NO NUMBERS THERE.
YOU'RE NOT LOOKING AT, I MEAN, THERE'S NUMBERS OF UNITS, BUT THERE'S NOT, UM, YOU KNOW, THE, THE SPECIFIC SETBACKS OR, OR BUFFERS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
THOSE ARE NOT LISTED ON THIS BECAUSE WE'LL GET TO THAT AS PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN PROCESS.
SO IN THIS STAGE WE ARE CALLING IT A CONCEPT PLAN, BUT WHATEVER GETS APPROVED BY STAFF LATER HAS TO, UM, UH, IT, IT HAS TO CONFORM FOR THE MOST PART WITH WHAT HAS BEEN PRESENTED HERE IS, IF THAT MAKES SENSE.
DID YOU WANT TO FINISH YOUR STATEMENT, SIR? WELL, I THINK YOU ANSWERED MY QUESTION.
I MEAN, UM, WHAT I HARD TO SAY IS I'M FAMILIAR WITH THE DEAD END ROAD AND THE, THE TWO HOUSES THAT HAVE THE POOL IN THE BACKYARD.
UH, CLEARLY THEY'RE GONNA HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT YEAH.
UH, BEING ABLE TO SEE INTO THE PROPERTY AND CONCERNS YOU PROBABLY WOULD'VE HERE.
I WOULD'VE THE SAME CONCERNS WHAT I, WHAT I SAID HOLDS TRUE THOUGH BY RIGHT.
I COULD GO HERE RIGHT NOW AND BUILD 3, 4, 5, WHATEVER, FIVE STORY AND PUT IT THE SAME DISTANCE FROM THEIR PROPERTY AS I CAN WITH ONE STORY.
UM, SO, UM, YOU KNOW, THERE AT FIRST THERE WAS LIKE, FACEBOOK BOOK KIND OF EXPLODED AND THERE WAS, YOU KNOW, THERE WAS, AND THEN WE KIND OF CALMED HIM DOWN AND SAID, HERE'S WHAT WE'RE DOING.
GO TO HUNT ROAD, LOOK AT WHAT WE'VE DONE.
AND EVERYTHING JUST CALMED DOWN.
I MEAN, THE, THE FEAR HAS ALWAYS WORSENED.
WELL, IT'S NOT ALWAYS, BUT THE FEAR SOMETIMES IS WORSE THAN THE REALITY.
IN THIS CASE, THE REALITY IS WE'RE NOT ASKING TO BUILD 3, 4, 5 STORY AND PUT IT IN SOMEBODY'S BACKYARD.
SO WHAT BUFFER IS GOING BY BY THOSE NEIGHBORS THAT, UM, COMMISSIONER JUST MENTIONED, UM, THAT WOULD ASSURE THEM THAT THEY STILL HAVE QUIET ENJOYMENT OF THEIR BACKYARD.
YEAH, I MEAN, I, WHAT BUFFERS GOING? I HAVE NOT DONE THAT.
I WOULD BE HAPPY TO STOP BY AND HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH THEM BEFORE IT MAKES IT TO COUNSEL.
UM, I WILL MAKE A COMMITMENT TO DO THAT.
THE LAST THING I THINK, UM, IS GLOBALLY A CONCERN WAS THE DRAINAGE AND YOU JUST, UH, POINTED OUT WHERE THE DRAINAGE IS GONNA BE.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? COMMISSIONERS? YES.
CALBERT, I HAVE A QUESTION ON WHAT THAT STORM WATER, UM, TEST OR WHATEVER IT IS THAT, THAT DRAINAGE TEST THAT YOU GUYS ARE GONNA REQUIRE OF THEM.
WHAT IS THAT EXACTLY? CAN YOU, CAN YOU GIMME A, JUST A LOW LEVEL IDEA OF WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE? IT WOULD BE A STORM WATER PERMIT THAT'S SUBMITTED THAT IS PRIMARILY REVIEWED BY THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT THAT EVALUATES THE FLOW OF STORMWATER RUNOFF, YOU KNOW, WHEN IT RAINS, HITS THE GROUND, WHERE IT ROLLS TO HOW IT'S, UH, CONTAINED ON THE SITE AS OPPOSED TO INUNDATING ANOTHER PROPERTY THAT'S OFFSITE.
SO WHEN YOU ADD THE CONCRETE THAT'S GONNA BE REQUIRED TO DO ALL OF THIS MM-HMM
HOW DO YOU KNOW WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN? THAT'S THE, THAT'S THE PURPOSE OF THE REVIEW PROCESS AND THE PERMIT.
UM, WE HAVE, WE HAVE EXCELLENT MEMBERS OF OUR TEAM, ESPECIALLY IN THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT, THAT WILL EVALUATE THOSE FLOWS, UM, AND PROVIDE THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS AND OR MANDATE CERTAIN CHANGES BE MADE IN THE, UH, THE PERMITTING PROCESS WITH THAT APP, WITH THE PROPOSED APPLICATION THAT WILL BE SUBMITTED IN THE FUTURE.
SO IT'S CONCEIVABLE THAT WILL BE DONE AND THE DETENTION POND IS GONNA BE REQUIRED OR, OR SOMETHING OF THE SORT, SOMETHING TO THAT EFFECT.
I, I CAN'T SPEAK SPECIFICALLY TO WHAT WILL OR WILL NOT BE REQUIRED, BUT THAT WILL BE DETERMINED BY THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT.
AND THEN I APPRECIATE, TIM, THAT YOU ARE TRYING TO, UM, KEEP THE NEIGHBORS HAPPY BY NOT HAVING PEERING EYES OVER THEIR FENCES.
UH, BUT IS IT POSSIBLE TO WRITE THAT INTO THE PROVISION SO THAT THAT CANNOT BE CHANGED UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCE? NOT THAT WE DON'T BELIEVE YOU MM-HMM
IT'S JUST, IT WOULD BE A NICE THING FOR TO DO FOR THE NEIGHBORS.
SO YOU YOU MEAN THAT WE WON'T HAVE, UH, MORE THAN ONE STORY AROUND THE PERIMETER, RIGHT? OR, OR ABSOLUTELY.
I MEAN, WE HAVE THAT CERTAIN LENGTH WAY, WE HAVE NO DESIRE TO DO ANYTHING DIFFERENT, SO YEAH.
I THINK THAT WOULD PUT THE NEIGHBORS AT EASE.
I MEAN, ONE, ONE THING I WILL SAY ABOUT THE STORMWATER, THIS IS A UNIQUE PROPERTY IN THAT THE STORM WATER'S ALREADY BEEN BUILT.
SO IT'S, THE WHOLE THING WAS MASTER PLANNED AND ALREADY
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DESIGNED AND, UM, WHEN, WHEN IT WAS, SO THERE, THERE'S A, THERE'S A SECOND STEP I'LL TALK ABOUT, BUT THE FIRST STEP IS THE WHOLE THING HAS BEEN DESIGNED BASED ON A, UM, A USE DIAGRAM.SO THEY CAME IN AND SAID, HERE'S WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN ON THIS PARCEL.
HERE'S WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN ON THIS PARCEL.
AND THEY STUDIED THE WHOLE THING, SUBMITTED IT TO THE TOWN, AND THEN BUILT THE DETENTION BASED ON THAT.
SO WHAT IS THE SECOND PART NOW IS WHEN WE COME IN AND DEVELOP IT, THE TOWN'S GONNA LOOK AT IT, THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT'S GONNA LOOK AT IT AND WE'VE ALREADY MET WITH THEM TWICE.
THEY'RE GONNA LOOK AT IT AND SAY, OKAY, HERE'S WHAT THE NUMBERS TELL US YOU BUILT, UM, AND HERE'S WHAT YOU'RE, YOU'RE PUTTING ON THE PROPERTY NOW.
AND THEN THEY'RE GONNA DO A RE REVIEW OF IT, UH, AS A SECOND STEP.
THERE'S NOT ANYTHING ADDITIONAL THAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN IF WE STAY INSIDE ALL THOSE PARAMETERS.
THE SECOND THING I'LL SAY IS OUR, UM, OUR COVERAGE AREA.
WE HAVE A LOT OF YARDS ACTUALLY, THIS, THIS, YOU CAN'T SEE YARD SPACE, BUT WE HAVE A LOT OF, UM, UH, IMPERVIOUS OR PER, LET ME GET IT RIGHT, WE HAVE A LOT OF PERVIOUS AREA THAT YOU DON'T HAVE AT A TYPICAL APARTMENT PROJECT, RIGHT.
BECAUSE ALL THESE LITTLE COTTAGES AND PATIO HOMES HAVE THEIR OWN YARD SPACE.
SEE THE GRAY TYPICALLY, AND THERE'S NO GRAY IN FRONT OF THE SENIOR HOUSES, DO THEY GET GRASS? OH YEAH, THERE'S THE GRASS.
THERE'S, THAT'S, THIS IS NOT A VERY GOOD DIAGRAM.
UM, I DON'T THINK I HAVE ANY, OH, I DO HAVE SOMETHING BETTER.
IF YOU WANT IT, I HAVE SOMETHING BETTER, BUT THERE'S, WHAT THE POINT I'M MAKING IS THERE'S A LOT MORE PERVIOUS AREA BECAUSE WE ARE DOING THE ONE STORY THAN IF WE DO THE TALLER STUFF.
AND THEN ALSO I THINK THE WORD YOU'RE REACHING FOR IS INTERGENERATIONAL LIVING INSTEAD OF SEEING, OKAY, I LIKE THAT WORD, WHICH IS I WOULD LIKE TO SEE.
I DO WANNA POINT OUT TO THE COMMISSION HERE.
SO AS, AS YOU, UH, COMMISSIONER SCOTT JUST KIND OF MENTIONED A FEW MINUTES AGO, IF THERE IS A CONDITION THAT AGAIN IS REASONABLE THAT YOU WANT TO ADD TO THE LIST OF CONDITIONS THAT STAFF HAS PROVIDED, YOU CAN ADD THAT DURING YOUR MOTION.
SO IF YOU WANT TO INCLUDE THE MOTIONS, WHAT I, OR INCLUDE THE, THE CONDITIONS, I, THAT'S WHAT I WOULD ASK THAT WHOEVER MAKES THE MOTION INCLUDES WHATEVER CONDITIONS THEY WANT INCLUDED IN THAT MOTION.
SO IF YOU WANT ALL THE ONES BY STAFF, YOU COULD SAY, UM, ALL THE ONES LISTED BY STAFF IN THE STAFF REPORT.
PLUS I'D LIKE TO ADD, UM, YOU KNOW, ONLY SINGLE FAMILY OR ONLY SINGLE STORY AROUND THE PERIMETER OF THE PROPERTY OR SOMETHING, WHATEVER THAT ENDS UP LOOKING LIKE.
OR IF THERE ARE ANY OTHERS THAT, THAT YOU AS A GROUP PREFER.
AND THEN YOU WILL VOTE ON THOSE, UH, AS A GROUP.
CAN WE GO BACK TO THOSE PLEASE, ROBERT? AND, AND WHAT IS THE, THE BACKYARD LANDSCAPE REQUIREMENT FOR THE REAR? THE OF THE PROPERTY, THE PERIMETER? I HAVE PLEASE.
UH, I BELIEVE I HEARD, UH, TWO REQUESTS.
UH, WHAT WAS THE FIRST ONE? WAS IT FOR, CAN WE GO BACK TO THE CONDITIONS? THE CONDITIONS? OKAY.
AND THE, THE CONDITION THAT I THINK I HEARD, UM, THAT WAS BEING DISCUSSED IS THE DEVELOPMENT MUST BE CONSISTENT WITH THE SITE PLAN AS SUBMITTED TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION ON JULY 21ST, 2026.
WHAT CALVIN SAID, THIS DOES NOT INCLUDE THE CON ACTUAL CONDITIONS.
SO JUST THAT THERE ARE EIGHT CONDITIONS, SO THE FULL LIST OF THE, UH, CONDITIONS.
WELL THAT WASN'T THE CONDITION YOU SAID.
WELL, YES, HE, HE JUST WAS PRETI IT UP FOR ME.
SO WOULD YOU LIKE FOR ME TO READ THE FULL LIST? UH, THE, AS A OR? OKAY.
SO, UH, ONE ASPECTS OF THE DEVELOPMENT NOT ADDRESSED WITHIN SAID CONDITIONS SHALL DEFAULT TO THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE CITY OF BAYTOWN.
TWO, THE PLANNING DIRECTOR MAY REVOKE THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT PER UNIFIED LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE ULDC SECTION 7.443 PLAT APPLICATION OF THE SUBJECT SITE SHALL BE REQUIRED EACH LOT SHALL, AND THIS IS THE AMENDED VERSION OF THE, OF THE, UH, CONDITION, UH, PLAT APPLICATION OF THE SUBJECT SITE SHALL BE REQUIRED.
EACH LOT SHALL BE PLATTED CONTAINING MULTIPLE RESIDENTIAL BUILDINGS.
GROUNDS ARE TO BE, ARE TO BE REFERRED TO AS COMMON AREAS.
GENERAL NOTES SHALL INCLUDE NO PARCEL OR STRUCTURE SHALL BE SOLD AS AN INDIVIDUAL UNIT.
TRANSPORTATION IMPACT ANALYSIS.
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REQUIRED UPON SUBMITTAL OF DEVELOPMENT PLANS.FIVE, AT LEAST TWO POINTS OF INGRESS AND EGRESS SHALL BE REQUIRED.
LANDSCAPE PLAN SHALL BE REQUIRED UPON SUBMITTAL OF DEVELOPMENT PLANS.
SEVEN SWIMMING POOL PLANS SHALL BE SUBMITTED TO CITY INSPECTORS AND THE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH FOR REVIEW AND APPROVAL UPON SUBMITTAL OF DEVELOPMENT PLANS.
FINALLY, UH, EIGHT, UH, STORMWATER PERMIT THAT INCLUDES THE TOTAL IMPERVIOUS SURFACE AREA SHALL BE REQUIRED UPON SUBMITTAL OF DEVELOPMENT PLANS.
FOR THE RECORD, MANY, MOST OF THESE WOULD'VE BEEN REQUIRED BY CODE IN THE FIRST PLACE.
AND SO A LOT OF TIMES WE LIKE TO INCLUDE THOSE IN THE STAFF REPORT AS CONDITIONS SO THAT EVERYBODY KNOWS EXACTLY WHERE STAFF STANDS ON THESE ITEMS. UM, I'M SURE TIM ALREADY KNOWS THAT AS WELL.
HE, HE ALREADY ANTICIPATED DOING MOST OF THIS.
UH, I THINK THE, THE, THE LONGER ONE THAT TALBERT READ OUT.
UM, AND THEN SOME OF THESE ARE, ARE, ARE REQUIRED, BUT THEY'RE REQUIRED UNDER CERTAIN CIRCUMSTANCES.
AND SO THOSE CONDITIONS WE KNOW ARE ALREADY GOING TO BE MET.
SO AGAIN, WE'RE TRYING TO SAY, OKAY, RIGHT UP FRONT, THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT ARE GOING TO BE, SO THOSE CONDITIONS ARE GREAT, UM, BUT LARGELY COVERED ALREADY BY CODE.
WE JUST WANT TO BE UPFRONT ABOUT WHAT'S EXPECTED.
SO THE CONDITION THREE THAT YOU JUST READ OUT IS NOT THE CONDITION THAT WAS PUT INTO THE POSTED AGENDA.
IT DOESN'T, YOU TOOK OUT THE REFERENCE OF SELLING INDIVIDUAL LOTS AND THAT POSTED ITEM ALLOWS FOR IT OR SAYS IF IT HAPPENS, YOU GOTTA MAKE A CONDOMINIUM.
THAT WAS WHY MY QUESTION WAS EARLIER.
THAT'S, YOU KNOW, I JUST PRINTED THIS OUT THIS AFTERNOON.
THAT'S NOT WHAT, WHAT WAS IN THE AGENDA.
UM, AND AND ALONG THOSE LINES, IF I MAY SIR INTERRUPT YOU IS IF, IF I HEARD WHAT YOU READ CORRECTLY, UM, IT SAID THAT THERE ARE PARCELS OF APARTMENTS, THERE ARE PARCEL, HOW MANY PARCEL DID I HEAR THAT CORRECTLY? SO THAT NOT ONE UNIT CAN BE SOLD, BUT CAN A PARCEL OF APARTMENTS BE SOLD? THIS WOULD BE ONE LOT.
THE ENTIRE DEVELOPMENT WOULD BE ONE QUESTION.
I WOULD LIKE TO, I WANNA MAKE A COMMENT.
CAN I FINISH MY CONVERSATION? OH, YES SIR.
AND ON THE NO CHAIR INTERRUPTED ME.
SO ON THE, THE BUFFERING ISSUE, I, I DON'T WANT TO GET TOO DEEP IN THE WOODS ON THE LANDSCAPING BECAUSE WE HAVE A PRETTY INTENSIVE CITY ORDINANCE ON LANDSCAPING AND, AND I'M NOT A LANDSCAPER, SO I DON'T WANT TO TELL YOU WHAT YOU CAN AND CAN'T PLANT.
HOWEVER, I THINK IT WOULD BE REASONABLE IN THE SUP FOR US TO PUT A REQUIREMENT IN FOR A NON WOODEN FENCE, PERMANENT BUFFER, BE A RECORD AROUND THAT PROPERTY THAT THEY HAVE THAT CONCERN IN.
AND I DON'T THINK IT'S THE WHOLE PROPERTY.
I THINK IF I READ THIS JUST RIGHT, IT'S JUST THAT ONE SECTION BUTTON UP AGAINST THOSE AREAS.
AM I READING THAT CORRECTLY FROM THE, UH, CONCERNS OF THE AGENDA? I BELIEVE SO.
UM, THAT AREA THAT LOOKS LIKE TO THE LEFT AND FOR THOSE THAT MAY BE WATCHING ELSEWHERE, UM, IT'S THE AREA TO THE LEFT THAT LOOKS LIKE, UH, A RECTANGLE THAT'S BEEN, I MEAN, WE REQUIRE BUFFERS AROUND STUFF ALL THE TIME.
SO DOES THAT MEAN THAT THE, UH, THE, THE DIOCESE WILL BE VOTING TO MAKE AN AMENDMENT TO INCORPORATE WHAT, UM, MIKE BEARD HAS PROVIDED? I THINK WE'RE, WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN TO THAT, THAT FAR ALONG YET.
YEAH, I JUST WANNA MAKE THE COMMENT THAT, UM, I'M NOT A REAL BIG FAN OF APARTMENTS.
UM, SEVERAL TIMES VOTED IN YOU ON THAT GATE, BUT THESE, UH, UM, WHEN THEY BROUGHT 'EM LAST TIME ON HUNT ROAD LOOKED REALLY GOOD ON THE PLANT.
AND THE OTHER DAY I DROVE BY THERE AND YOU KNOW, I LIVED DOWN HERE, TRIED A PARK ROAD IN THAT AREA.
RIGHT NOW WE ALL DO AT THIS POINT.
WHEN I DROVE THROUGH THERE, THEY LOOKED REALLY SHARP.
I HAD TO LIKE DO A DOUBLE TURN AND EVEN TOLD MY WIFE, I SAID, CHECK THAT OUT.
UM, I THINK THAT IF YOU LOOK AT UM, OTHER AREAS, IT'S KIND OF FUNNY THAT TD BECAUSE IF YOU LOOK AT OTHER AREAS, THIS IS THE KIND OF THING THAT'S GOING THERE.
THE KIND OF, UM, AS WE WERE TALKING, I BOOKED UP HOW MANY APARTMENT ES ARE ACTUALLY NORTH OF TON IN MONT BELLEVUE? THERE'S NOT A LOT.
AND THEN THAT'S KIND OF BOTHERED ME.
BUT THEN WHEN WE SAW THESE AND YOU MENTIONED THAT, I THINK THIS IS A GOOD PLAN FOR THAT AREA.
I THINK THAT THAT AREA IS BEING DEVELOPED FAST AND I THINK THE FACT THAT YOU CAME TO US WITH THIS PLANT TO PUT IN SINGLE FLOOR UNITS AND IT MAKES IT LOOK LIKE IT'S OWN LITTLE TOWN LOOKS KIND OF INVITING.
I, I THINK THIS IS A GOOD IDEA FOR THAT AREA.
SO I, I'M JUST EXPRESSING MY SUPPORT FOR THIS.
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A LOT OF QUESTIONS AND WE KEEP SAYING I DON'T WANT TO GET INTO THE WEEDS.WE, THE WEED, WE, WE OUT THERE GOT OUR BOOTS ON WALKING IN.
AND IF, IF THERE'S NO MORE DISCUSSION, WHICH I'M SURE THERE IS, I HAVE ONE MORE.
I, I COMMISSIONER I LIKE THIS.
HELP ME JUST UNDERSTAND THE REASON WHY IS THE SUP IS BECAUSE OF THE ONE LEVEL THAT'S INCORPORATED.
OTHER THAN THAT, I MEAN, 'CAUSE I DO KNOW AGREE FREE R COMMERCIAL APARTMENTS, WE WOULDN'T BE TALKING, UH, THAT'S PRETTY MUCH CORRECT.
UM, THIS, THIS DEVELOPMENT TYPE INCORPORATES A VAST MAJORITY OF DIFFERENT TYPES OF, OF DEVELOPMENT TYPES AND UM, THAT DON'T QUITE MESH WITH THE, WITH THE APARTMENT DWELLING CLASSIFICATION.
THANK YOU THAT, THANK YOU FOR THAT POINT OF CLARIFICATION.
I JUST WANTED TO ENSURE I WAS NOT A FAN OF COTTAGE GREEN.
HAPPY TO HEAR IT'S BEING RENTED WITH THE DEMOGRAPHICS Y'ALL PRESENTED BEFORE.
UM, I, I BELIEVE THAT WHATEVER SPECIAL USE THAT WE PUT INTO THE, OR INTO THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT, AS LONG AS IT MEETS THE, UM, THE MULTI-FAMILY, WHAT WOULD BE REQUIRED WITHIN THAT? IT SEEMS FAIR
UM, I LIKE THE IDEA OF ADDING THE, SORRY THAT WE ENDED UP HERE, BUT NOW A TRAFFIC STUDY.
BUT IT COULD BE AN APARTMENT COMPLEX THAT I ASSUME WOULD NOT REQUIRE A TRAFFIC STUDY AND IT, THE STORM WATER ISSUES THAT MIGHT NOT REQUIRE ABOVE AND BEYOND ON THAT TOO.
SO MY AND I DO BELIEVE YES, IN SUPPORT OF THE COMMUNITY AND THEIR CONCERNS, ALTHOUGH IT COULD BE A THREE STORY ON THE BUFFER OR ON THE END SAYING PLEASE DON'T DO IT ON THAT AND LET THAT BE THE ONLY SPECIAL USE THAT YOU DON'T CLEARLY HAVE A PROBLEM.
'CAUSE IT DOESN'T GO AGAINST YOUR CONCEPT.
ADD TRAFFIC STUDY, I GUESS YES.
WHAT? BUT FOLLOW WHAT? IT WOULD BE FREEWAY COMMERCIAL, IF IT WAS AN APARTMENT COMPLEX, WHAT IT COULD BE WITHOUT ASSIST DISCUSSION.
MADAM CHAIR, CAN I MAKE A MOTION? YEAH, I'D LIKE TO.
I HAVE A POINT OF ORDER ON PROCEDURE.
WOULD IT, THIS IS PROBABLY FOR THE ATTORNEY.
WOULD IT BE APPROPRIATE FOR US TO HAVE A SEPARATE MOTION ON INCLUDING THESE OBJECTION LETTERS AND NOW THE PHOTOGRAPHS THAT WERE PRESENTED TO US TO BE INCLUDED IN THE MINUTES AND THEN VOTE ON THE ITEM? 'CAUSE THAT'S GONNA BE A LONG MOTION OTHERWISE, I MEAN, 'CAUSE THESE ARE PART OF THE RECORD.
WE'VE BEEN GIVEN STUFF THAT THE PUBLIC SHOULD HAVE ACCESS TO WHAT THEY'RE GONNA GO IN THE MINUTES, RIGHT? NOT UNLESS WE PUT 'EM IN THERE.
WE IF IF THE DIRECTION TO STAFF IS TO INCLUDE THE STUFF IN THE MINUTES, THEN WE'LL INCLUDE IT IN THE MINUTES.
I DON'T THINK YOU NEED, I DON'T THINK YOU NEED A MOTION FOR THAT.
JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THESE, AND THESE ARE AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC WITHOUT HAVING TO GO THROUGH A PUBLIC INFORMATION REQUEST.
I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE WITH THE NINE CONDITIONS, EIGHT OF STAFF'S CONDITIONS AND THE NINTH BEING THE DEVELOPMENT MUST BE CONSISTENT WITH THE SITE PLAN AS SUBMITTED TO P AND Z ON 7 21 26.
IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND ONE POINT.
ALL IN FAVOR? I DON'T THINK WE CAN STOP AT THIS POINT.
ANY OPPOSED? ANY ABSTENTIONS? THE MOTION CARRIES TO APPROVE ITEM THREE B WITH THE NINE CONDITIONS.
CAN I MAKE A POINT NOW THAT IT'S BEEN VOTED ON THAT YOU CAN, THAT SITE PLAN IS FROM 4 30 26.
UM, IT HAS BEEN UPDATED WITH MINOR MODIFICATIONS.
I WOULD ASSUME WHAT MARTIN SAID EARLIER WOULD HOLD TRUE IS THAT WE CAN MAKE MINOR MODIFICATIONS.
WE'LL, WE'LL STAFF WILL WORK WITH YOU ON THAT.
WE NOW MOVE ON TO ITEM THREE C ZONING.
CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDER A REQUEST TO AMEND THE OFFICIAL ZONING MAP TO REZONE APPROXIMATELY 16.474 ACRES.
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AT 37 10 CROSBY CEDAR BAY ROAD.FROM SUBURBAN RESIDENTIAL TO URBAN RESIDENTIAL ZONING DISTRICT TO ALLOW FOR 273 APARTMENT UNITS.
I NOW OPEN THIS PUBLIC HEARING AT 6:09 PM AND THANK BERT FOR THE RECORD.
BERT JACKSON, SENIOR PLANNER, CITY OF BAYTOWN.
UM, THE PROPOSED PROJECT IS TO REZONE APPROXIMATELY 16.474 ACRES LOCATED AT 37 10 CEDAR CROSBY BY YOUR ROAD, I'M SORRY, CROSBY CEDAR BAYOU ROAD.
UH, FROM SUBURBAN RESIDENTIAL TO AN URBAN RESIDENTIAL ZONING DISTRICT.
UH, HERE YOU WILL SEE THE VICINITY MAP SHOWING THE SUBJECT SITE.
UH, YOU'LL SEE MASSEY TOMPKINS ROAD TO THE NORTH OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY AND CROSBY CEDAR BAYOU ROAD TO THE WEST OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.
THE CURRENT ZONING MAP HAS THE PROPERTY OWNED AS SUBURBAN RESIDENTIAL WITH A FUTURE LAND USE MAP OF, UM, FUTURE LAND USE OF, UH, LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL.
THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO REZONE THE PROPERTY, UH, TO HAVE A ZONING MAP AMENDMENT TO CHANGE THE PROPERTY FROM THE, THE PROPERTY ZONING DISTRICT FROM SUBURBAN RESIDENTIAL TO URBAN RESIDENTIAL WITH THE OBJECTIVE OF, WITH THE OBJECTIVE OF SUPPORTING, UM, THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT OF APARTMENTS.
THIS IS THE, UM, UH, IMAGE OF THE PROPERTY ALONG MASSEY TOMPKINS, ROAD FACING SOUTHWEST.
UH, THIS IMAGE IS, UH, ALONG CROSBY, CEDAR BAYOU ROAD FACING NORTHEAST, AND THIS IS ALSO ALONG CEDAR CROSBY, CEDAR BAYOU ROAD FACING SOUTH.
NOW, WITH THE CURRENT ZONING OF THE PROPERTY, WHICH IS SUBURBAN RESIDENTIAL, IT ALLOWS FOR, UH, CONVENTIONAL, UH, DEVELOPMENT OF FOUR UNITS UP TO FOUR UNITS PER ACRE.
AND THERE ARE ADDITIONAL REQUIREMENTS, SOME OF THE, THAT I'VE PULLED OUT HERE, SUCH AS SOME OF THE, THE LOT DIMENSIONAL REQUIREMENTS FOR SINGLE UNIT DETACHED OR NON-RESIDENTIAL.
NOW, AS AN URBAN RESIDENTIAL ZONING DISTRICT, SHOULD IT BE APPROVED, UM, THE MAXIMUM DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE UNDER CONVENTIONAL DEVELOPMENT WOULD BE 21 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE.
UM, I'M GOING TO GO BACK A SLIDE AS A REMINDER.
THE CURRENT, UM, DWELLING UNIT COUNT, MAXIMUM COUNT IS FOUR UNITS PER ACRE.
THE, WHAT THE ZONING AMENDMENT SHOULD IT BE APPROVED, WOULD ALLOW, WOULD BE UP TO 21 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE AS A CONVENTIONAL DEVELOPMENT, OR 30 UNITS PER ACRE IF IT WERE TO BE CLASSIFIED AS INFILL.
UH, ADDITIONAL LOT DIMENSIONAL REQUIREMENTS ARE THERE FOR DIFFERENT TYPES OF UNITS, UH, BUT YOU'LL SEE THAT UNDER, UM, APARTMENTS THERE'S NO MINIMUM LOT REQUIREMENT.
UM, WITH THIS POTENTIAL ZONING MAP AMENDMENT, THAT WOULD ALSO BRING FORTH THE NEED FOR BUFFER YARD STANDARDS, UH, BECAUSE THE SURROUNDING AREA FOR THE MOST PART WOULD BE IS, IS ZONED SUBURBAN RESIDENTIAL.
SO AS IT PERTAINS TO A DISTRICT BUFFER YARD, THESE WILL BE THE, THIS WOULD BE THE DISTRICT BUFFER YARD STANDARD, A TYPE A.
YOU'LL SEE THE PROPOSED ZONING DISTRICT OF UR BEING ADJACENT TO SR, WHICH IS THE SUBURBAN RESIDENTIAL REQUIRE A TYPE A BUFFER YARD.
THERE ARE MEASUREMENTS, THERE ARE STANDARD MEASUREMENT REQUIREMENTS, AND THERE ARE TWO DIFFERENT TYPES THAT MAY POTENTIALLY BE USED.
THAT WOULD BE A STRUCTURAL OR A NATURAL BUFFER YARD TYPE.
AND THOSE ABS AND CS WOULD BE CORRESPONDING WITH THE DIMENSION REQUIREMENTS AT THE TOP OF THE TABLE.
UH, THE PROPOSED SITE PLAN IS NOW BEFORE YOU, UH, IT SHOWS, UM, MAIN ENTRY ALONG MASSEY TOMPKINS ROAD AND A FIRE ACCESS ALONG CEDAR CROSBY, CEDAR BAYOU ROAD.
UH, THROUGHOUT THE DEVELOPMENT, THERE ARE A FEW BUILDINGS, UH, THERE ARE DUMPSTER LOCATIONS.
UM, AND ALSO THERE IS A CALL OUT OF A AN A PIPELINE EASEMENT, UM, ALONG THE PROPERTY THAT TRAVERSES FROM THE WEST SIDE ALONG THAT FIRE AXIS LANE AND GOES SOUTH AND EAST.
UH, ALONG THE SOUTHERN, UH, PORTION OF THE PROPERTY LINE, THE APPLICANT PROPOSES TWENTY TWO HUNDRED AND SEVENTY THREE
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DWELLING UNITS, UH, WHICH ROUGHLY WORKS OUT TO 16.6 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE.AND THERE'S A, UM, A BEDROOM COUNT, UH, FOR THE UNIT MIX THAT THE APPLICANT HAS PROVIDED, UM, TO, JUST AS A CLARIFICATION POINT, UM, AS WITH PREVI, THE PREVIOUS, UH, ZONING MAP AMENDMENT, UM, THE APPLICANT WOULDN'T BE BEHOLDEN TO THIS, UH, PROPOSED CONCEPT PLAN.
UM, THE ZONING, THE CHANGE IN THE ZONING, UM, WOULD ALLOW ANY OF THE USES WITHIN THE UR, UM, URBAN RESIDENTIAL ZONING DISTRICT.
AND SO THIS POTENTIAL DESIGN COULD POSSIBLY CHANGE, UH, PROPOSED RENDERING OF THE PROPOSED PROJECT PROVIDED BY THE APPLICANT IS NOW BEFORE YOU.
UM, PROVIDED THIS SLIDE HERE SO THAT YOU HAVE, UH, AN UNDERSTANDING OF CERTAIN THINGS THAT ARE SURROUNDING THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.
UM, YOU'VE GOT A RAILROAD CROSSING ALONG MASSEY TOMPKINS ROAD, UH, TO THE WEST SIDE OF THE PROPERTY.
UH, YOU HAVE STATE ROAD 1 46 TO THE SOUTH THAT ALSO CURVES NORTH NORTHEAST, AND YOU HAVE A CROSBY SEAT, UH, CROSBY GREENS APARTMENTS, WHICH IS SOUTHWEST OF THE SUBJECT SITE.
THERE'S ALSO A GAS STATION ON THE IMMEDIATE CORNER, UM, ADJACENT TO THE SUBJECT PROPERTY AND A COUPLE OF MOBILE HOME PARKS AS WELL AS A, UH, A SUBDIVISION TO THE SOUTHEAST.
UH, A POINT TO NOTE IS THAT THE CROSBY GREEN'S APARTMENTS IS, UH, IS A MULTIFAMILY, UH, DEVELOPMENT.
AND, UM, THAT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE BECAUSE THE, UM, THE CITY HAS A CITY COUNCIL POLICY, UH, AS IT PERTAINS TO MULTIFAMILY, UM, REZONINGS, UM, IN TERMS OF THE, A DISTANCE REQUIREMENT OF A MINIMUM OF, OF HALF A MILE.
AND THIS PROPOSED REZONING PLACES THE SUBJECT PROPERTY, UM, LESS THAN HALF A MILE AWAY FROM THE EXISTING, UH, MULTIFAMILY APARTMENTS TO THE SOUTHWEST.
UM, AND FOR POINT OF CLARIFICATION, JUST TO FURTHER IT ALONG, THE URBAN RESIDENTIAL ZONING DISTRICT IS SYNONYMOUS WITH THE MULTIFAMILY MF ONE, MF TWO THAT YOU MAY BE FAMILIAR WITH IN THE PAST.
UM, SO, UM, AS IT PERTAINS TO THAT CITY COUNCIL POLICY, UH, THIS WOULD ALSO APPLY WITH THE UR OR THE URBAN RESIDENTIAL ZONING DISTRICT.
AND WITH THAT, UH, STAFF RECOMMENDS, UM, DENIAL OF THE PROPOSAL, UM, FOR THE APARTMENTS, UH, BASED ON ITS PROXIMITY TO, UM, TO EXISTING, UH, MULTI-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL, UM, AS IT IS SYNONYMOUS WITH THE MF ONE, MF TWO OF, OF, UM, MULTI-FAMILY DESIGNATION OF THE PAST.
AND WITH THAT, I HAVE, I'M AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS.
PLEASE COME UP AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.
I LIVE AT 35 28 CROSBY CEDAR BIO ROAD NEXT DOOR TO THIS BAYTOWN 7 7 5 2 1.
CAN YOU PUT YOUR MAP BACK UP? THAT ONE, SIR, CAN YOU ZOOM IN ON THE PROPERTY? YEAH, THERE YOU GO.
IF YOU LOOK ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE PROPERTY, UH, RIGHT ON CROSBY, CEDAR BOW ROAD, I OWN THOSE TWO PROPERTIES.
AND WHAT THE MAP ISN'T SHOWING YOU IS A 20 FOOT ROAD THAT GOES THROUGH THERE THAT THEY DON'T OWN.
THAT BOTTOM PART, THE YELLOW, THEY DON'T HAVE THAT.
THEIR ROAD CUTS ALL THE WAY THROUGH, GOES ALL THE WAY DOWN.
IT'S BEEN THERE SINCE THE EARLY 19 HUNDREDS.
SO WHAT I'M CONCERNED ABOUT IS I HAVE LIVESTOCK, THE GUY BEHIND ME HAS LIVESTOCK AND THEY'RE TRYING TO CLAIM THAT, PUT IT LIKE A FENCE RIGHT THERE ON MY FENCE.
THEY'RE GONNA HAVE THREE STORE PEOPLE UP THERE, BB GUNS, SHOOTING AT 'EM.
YOU KNOW, THEY NEED TO LEAVE THAT 20 FOOT SPACE THERE AND WORK FROM THAT.
I'M SORRY, TALBERT, CAN YOU USE THE MOUSE SO HE CAN KIND OF SHOW US WHAT HE'S TALKING ABOUT? BECAUSE I, I'M, I DON'T UNDERSTAND.
I'VE GOT A PLA OH, WELL THAT'S FINE TOO.
WOULD Y'ALL LIKE TO LOOK AT IT? NO, SIR.
I THINK I UNDERSTAND YOU'RE SAYING THE SOUTHERNMOST BORDER, THERE'S A ROAD THERE, THERE'S A, YOU CAN SEE ON THE MM-HMM
I SAW THAT ROAD GOES ALL THE WAY THROUGH MY
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PROPERTY.THE NEXT PROPERTY, JUST THE APPLICANT'S PROPERTY IS LOCATED HERE WHERE I'M CIRCLING.
UM, THIS REPRESENTS, UH, ROBERT'S PLACE, I BELIEVE IS THE NAME OF THE PROPERTY.
UM, AND THERE ARE, THERE MAY BE, UH, TWO FENCES THAT TRAVERSE TO THE, FROM WEST TO EAST ALONG THE PROPERTY LINE.
SO THAT GOES ALL THE WAY TO MY FENCE, BUT IT'S SKIPPING THE ONE BEFORE THAT, IF YOU'D LIKE TO SEE IT RIGHT HERE.
AND IT GOES, AND THAT CAN BE FOUND ON 20 FOOT PRIVATE ROAD, RESERVED IN VOLUME 1 22, PAGE 5 0 3, HARRIS COUNTY RECORDS.
COMMISSIONER'S NOTE THAT THE MAP ON THE SCREEN IS, UH, JUST A, THAT IS BASED ON THE HCA, UM, PROPERTIES THAT ARE SHOWN ON THE GIS.
SO SPECIFIC, UH, PROPERTY BOUNDARIES WOULD BE DETERMINED BY SURVEY.
WE, WE DON'T, IF, IF THERE IS A 20 FOOT DISCREPANCY THERE, THAT'LL BE FIGURED OUT THROUGH THAT PROCESS, WE, WE WOULDN'T DO THAT HERE.
ALSO, UH, FLOODING, YOU KNOW, UH, LANDSCAPING, FENCES, BUFFER ZONES, THAT KIND OF THING.
YOU KNOW, PROTECT THE LIVESTOCK.
I JUST THINK THAT THERE'S, THERE'S, IT DOESN'T GIVE ENOUGH INFORMATION WHAT THEY'RE GONNA DO FOR IT, UH, TO PROTECT MY LIFESTYLE.
THAT IT, IF WE HAVE SOME QUESTIONS FOR YOU, WE'LL ASK YOU TO COME BACK UP.
BUT I HAVE A COPY OF THAT IF Y'ALL WANTED TO LOOK AT IT.
I THINK IT GOES BACK THIS, LIKE THAT PROPERTY WAS DONE IN LIKE 1900 MM-HMM
SO IT'S BEEN THERE FOR A WHILE.
UH, NEXT SPEAKER IS NATHAN DIETRICH, THE APPLICANT.
DO WE KNOW HIM FROM ANYWHERE? NEVER SEEN THE GUY BEFORE.
I'M, I'M SURPRISED HE WAS ABLE TO FIND THE DOOR.
NATHAN HERE IS, UH, IS ALSO THE, UH, THE APPLICANT REPRESENTS PART A PORTION OF THE APPLICANT, UH, FOR THE PROJECT.
UH, SO I'M, I'M NOT CERTAIN THAT THE MINUTE COUNT WOULD APPLY, UM, AS THE, HE MAY HAVE JUST SIGNED IN JUST AS A FORMALITY.
I THINK THREE MINUTES SHOULD BE ENOUGH.
RIGHT? IT SHOULD BE PRESENTATION.
UH, NATHAN WOULD LIKE TO PROVIDE A PRESENTATION.
ARE WE AT THAT PORTION OF THE DISCUSSION TO GO THROUGH PRESENTATION? I JUST HAVE A QUESTION FOR STAFF.
'CAUSE I WAS CONFUSED WHEN YOU SAID IT'S A, IT'S, IT'S A HALF MILE.
WE JUST APPROVED SOMETHING THAT'S IN ANOTHER BACK DOOR OF AN APARTMENT COMPLEX.
I'M JUST A LITTLE CONFUSED AT THE DISCREPANCY THERE.
THE POLICY ONLY REFERS TO REZONES OKAY.
COMMISSIONERS, ARE YOU OKAY WITH THE PRESENTATION? YES.
I'M GONNA HAVE DESSERT ON MARTIN TOO.
WE WANT CHAMPAGNE WHILE THEY'RE PULLING.
I'D LIKE TO ASK A LITTLE MORE CLARITY ON THAT.
YOU SAID THAT IT ONLY APPLIES TO REZONES, OR I'M ASSUMING CURRENTLY DEVELOPED NOT IN THE PROCESS OF DEVELOPMENT.
WITHIN THE HALF MILE IT DEFINES WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IN TERMS OF SIZE.
UM, SO I THINK IT'S ANYTHING LESS THAN 50 UNITS DOESN'T FALL INTO THAT.
BUT IT IS ANYTHING THAT WOULD BE ZONED TO ALLOW SPECIFICALLY MULTIFAMILY, UM, WITHIN A HALF MILE OF SOMETHING THAT IS ALREADY ZONED FOR MULTIFAMILY.
SO NOT NECESSARILY REALITY, CORRECT.
AND JUST ONE OTHER KIND OF ON THAT FOR CLARITY, THE, UM, THE MOBILE HOME, UM, TECHNICALLY IN TODAY, THAT WOULD BE A MULTI-FAMILY, CORRECT? I MEAN, I KNOW WE MIGHT NOT APPROVE THAT, BUT I'M JUST SAYING MM-HMM.
THERE, THERE IS ANOTHER IDEA WISE.
RIGHT? THERE IS ANOTHER DISTRICT SPECIFICALLY FOR THAT TYPE OF USE.
SO THERE'RE TWO, TWO DIFFERENT ZONING DISTRICTS.
BUT THEORETICALLY IT IS MULTIFAMILY IN A BAR SCHOOL, CORRECT? THAT YES.
NO, DEPENDS ON HOW PHILOSOPHICAL YOU WANT TO GET PHILOSOPHICAL.
OTHERWISE THEY'RE, BUT THEY ARE MULTIPLE UNITS, BUT THERE'S
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TWO DIFFERENT WAYS.SO, SO WE'RE GOOD APARTMENTS ARE NOT ALLOWED.
SHOULD WE GO FORWARD? IT IS A CITY COUNCIL POLICY, NOT A, IT'S NOT PART OF THE REGULATIONS.
SO YOU CAN RECOMMEND EITHER DIRECTION.
WE, WE, WE PROVIDE THAT TO YOU FOR YOUR INFORMATION AND THE, THE APPLICANT HAS THE RIGHT TO GO FORWARD WITH THE APPLICATION REGARDLESS OF WHAT YOUR RECOMMENDATION IS.
SO AT THAT STAGE, CITY COUNCIL HAS THE ABILITY TO DO WITH IT WHATEVER THEY, THEY COULD OVERRULE THEIR OWN POLICY IF THEY WANTED TO.
SO, UM, SO AGAIN, THE APPLICANT HAS THE, THE RIGHT TO MOVE FORWARD IN THE PROCESS.
SO, UH, SO YES, WE SHOULD MOVE FORWARD.
SO HOPEFULLY I'LL BE ABLE TO ANSWER ALL OF YOUR QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAD WITH, UH, OR THAT YOU POSED ALREADY.
SO MY NAME IS, UH, NATHAN DIETRICH.
I LIVE AT TWO COHASSET PLACE, UH, TOMBALL, TEXAS 7 7 3 7 5.
AND I'M HERE TO REPRESENT THE, THE OWNER AND, AND THE APPLICANT.
SO, UM, AS WAS STATED ALREADY BY TALBERT THAT WE'RE LOOKING TO DO, UM, UH, AN URBAN RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT AND, UH, WE ARE VERY WELL AWARE OF THE POLICY THAT'S IN PLACE.
UH, WE FEEL THAT WE HAVE A, A, A DISCUSSION THAT, UH, WOULD WARRANT, UH, THERE THERE TO BE SOME SORT OF, UH, ACKNOWLEDGEMENT TO WHY WE'RE CHOOSING THIS LOCATION VERSUS ANOTHER ONE.
AND WE BELIEVE THAT, UM, IT STILL MEETS THE INTENT OVER THE OVERALL USE OF, UH, OR WHY THE, WHY THE POLICY IS IN PLACE ANYWAY.
AND BACK IN THE DAY, JUST SO I CAN LET PEOPLE KNOW, I DID WORK HERE AT THE CITY OF BAYTOWN BACK MANY YEARS AGO FOR ABOUT 10 YEARS.
I ACTUALLY WAS HERE AT THE TIME THAT WE PUT THE POLICY IN PLACE BACK IN 2016.
SO I WAS VERY, VERY MUCH AWARE OF WHY WE DID IT.
UM, AT THAT PARTICULAR TIME IN HISTORY, CITY OF BAYTOWN WAS ON THE MAP AND WE HAD OVER 2000 UNITS OF MULTIFAMILY THAT WAS COMING AT US, LEFT, RIGHT, AND CENTER.
SO, BUT BECAUSE OF THAT PROJECT OR BECAUSE OF THAT POLICY WAS IN PLACE FOR 10 YEARS, THERE ARE OTHER OPPORTUNITIES I BELIEVE THAT OUR POTENTIALLY LEFT, UM, ON THE BOARD OR NOT BEING, UM, REVIEWED BECAUSE OF THAT PROXIMITY.
UM, AND I'LL GET TO THAT AFTER, UM, MY NEXT SLIDE.
UM, WHAT TONIGHT'S REQUEST IS SIMPLY IS IS NOT JUST A DEVELOPMENT PROPOSAL.
IT'S ABOUT DETERMINING THE BEST APPROPRIATE LONG-TERM LAND USE FOR THAT PROPERTY, UM, AT ONE OF BAY TOWN'S EMERGING CORRIDORS.
AS I WALK THROUGH THE PRESENTATION, I HOPE TO DEMONSTRATE THAT URBAN RESIDENTIAL IS NOT ONLY APPROPRIATE, BUT IS ALSO LOGICAL PLANNING RESPONSE TO THE CHANGES THAT WE HAVE ALREADY OCCURRED, UM, AROUND THIS PROPERTY.
SO AS I WISH, UH, I HAD A DIFFERENT, UH, AGENDA ITEM, UH,
'CAUSE UH, UH, WE HAVE MADE A FOCUS ON TOP OF, UH, OF APARTMENTS.
BUT AGAIN, I HOPE TO AS SWAY YOUR OPINION WHEN IT COMES DOWN TO THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, BAYTOWN CONTINUES TO EXPERIENCE INDUSTRIAL INVE INVESTMENT, UM, EMPLOYMENT GROWTH AND INCREASING DEMAND FOR WORKFORCE HOUSING.
AND EVERY ZONING DECISION THAT YOU GUYS MAKE, UM, YOU KNOW, BEGINS WITH ONE QUESTION.
DOES THE PROPOSED LAND USE MAKE SENSE FOR THE LOCATION TODAY? UM, WE AS A CITY HERE, OR THE CITY, UH, ITSELF HAS INVESTED HEAVILY IN CREATING AND MAINTAINING JOBS.
PLANNING REQUIRES US TO ENSURE HOUSING OPPORTUNITIES KEEP PACE WITH THOSE JOBS.
THE QUESTION BEFORE YOU, WHETHER IS TO, UH, WITH THIS PROPERTY SHOULD REMAIN LOW DENSITY URBAN RESIDENTIAL OR EVOLVE INTO A MORE APPROPRIATE TRANSITION BETWEEN EXISTING COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT AND NEARBY RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS? OH, THIS IS THE WRONG ONE.
UM, I'M, I'M JUST GONNA ACTUALLY SKIP, SKIP IT BECAUSE REALLY YOU GUYS KNOW THE GIST OF WHAT'S GOING ON.
I THINK I WOULD LIKE TO JUST ADDRESS SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT ARE GOING ON WITH THE, THE, THE POLICY ITSELF.
THE IDEA BEHIND WHERE CROSBY GREEN IS.
UM, WOULD WE BE ABLE TO PULL UP THAT, THAT MAP AGAIN TO SHOW WHERE THE EXISTING APARTMENT COMPLEX IS? IT'S ON, IT'S OFF A CROSBY, CEDAR BAYOU.
AND IF YOU WERE TO JUST, AS THE CROW FLIES GO UP THE STREET, YOU'LL SEE THAT A PORTION OF THIS PROPERTY TOUCHES ONTO CROSBY CEDAR BAYOU.
THAT PARTICULAR SIDE, AS TALBERT STATED, IS GONNA ONLY BE USED FOR EMERGENCY ACCESS, ONLY FOR IF THERE'S ANY, UM, FIRES OR SAFETY NEEDS THAT ARE GONNA COME THROUGH THERE.
THERE'S GONNA BE A NOX BOX ON THAT PARTICULAR PROPERTY.
AND THE MAIN ENTRANCE IS GONNA BE OFF OF MASSET.
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THE IDEA HERE, I MEAN, PART OF THE REASON WHY WE HAD THE DISTANCE RELATION IS BECAUSE OF TRAFFIC CIRCULATION AND POSSIBILITY OF OVERWHELMING THAT PARTICULAR, UM, ROADWAY ITSELF.AND BECAUSE CROSBY, CEDAR BAYOU IS, IS A SUBURBAN CROSS SECTION, UM, NOT LIKE MASSEY TOMPKINS, WHERE IT'S A A FOUR LANE BOULEVARD, UM, MAIN THOROUGHFARE THAT WOULD BE ABLE TO HANDLE THIS TYPE OF, OF, UM, OF TRAFFIC THAT WOULD BE ADDED TO THIS PARTICULAR LOCATION.
WE, AT THIS PARTICULAR TIME HAVE NOT SUBMITTED A TIA, HOWEVER WE ARE WILLING TO DO ONE.
AND WE, I JUST GOT OFF THE PHONE WITH JUAN MESS TONIGHT, UM, WHO GAVE ME THE SCOPE AND WHAT WE NEEDED TO DO TO, IN ORDER TO, TO COMPLETE THAT.
TIA, OUR GOAL WAS TO HAVE IT READY FOR TONIGHT, BUT I APOLOGIZE WE DIDN'T HAVE IT READY.
UM, BECAUSE, UH, I UNDERSTAND THAT IT IS VERY IMPORTANT TO, TO KNOW WHAT THAT IMPACT WOULD BE FROM A TRAFFIC PER UH, PERSPECTIVE.
UM, OVERALL, I MEAN, OUR GOAL IS TO, WAS TO LOOK AT THIS LOCATION AND SAY THAT THERE IS A NEED FOR THESE APARTMENTS.
UM, PART OF WHAT WHAT I WAS LOOKING AT WAS JUST WHAT'S HAPPENED AROUND THIS AREA FROM A FUTURE LAND USE PLAN STANDPOINT.
UM, IF YOU WENT TO THE FUTURE LAND USE PLAN, I'M SORRY IF YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO PULL THAT UP.
IT SHOWS ALL OF THE AREA AROUND HERE, ACTUALLY, IF YOU WERE TO ZOOM THIS OUT, UM, EVEN ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE ROAD TO THE, TO THE WEST AND TO THE EAST IS ALL SUBURBAN REGEN, UH, EXCUSE ME, RESIDENTIAL.
BUT IF YOU GO TO THE ZONING MAP AND THE CHANGE, LIKE PER, FOR EXAMPLE, IN THE CORNER HERE ALONG MASSEY TOMPKINS AND CROSBY, CEDAR BAYOU, UM, YOU AS, AS A BODY AND ALSO CITY COUNCIL MADE A RECOMMENDATION TO CHANGE THAT TO GENERAL COMMERCIAL WHEN THE FUTURE LAND USE PLAN STATED THAT IT WAS SUBURBAN RESIDENTIAL.
SO NOT SAYING THAT'S A BAD THING, 'CAUSE AGAIN, A FUTURE LAND USE PLAN IS REALLY A TOOL TO USE AS A FORECASTING IDEA OF WHAT THE CITY SHOULD LOOK LIKE.
BUT THOSE, THOSE IDEAS CHANGE, RIGHT? SO YOU CAN ALSO SEE TO THE IMMEDIATE EAST OF THIS IS THERE THE PURPLE AREA INTO THE NORTH OF MASSEY TOMPKINS THAT WAS ALSO BACK IN 2024, REZONED BY THE CITY TO THIS MIXED RESIDENTIAL.
AND AGAIN, CURRENTLY THAT IS THE FUTURE LAND USE PLAN STATES THAT IT IS SUBURBAN RESIDENTIAL.
BUT THE IDEA BEHIND THIS IS TO ALLOW A DIFFERENT TYPE OF HOUSING TYPE THAT'S OUT THERE, RIGHT? SO HAVING THIS PARTICULAR TYPE OF APARTMENT COMPLEX IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO THIS MIXED RESIDENTIAL, WHICH ALLOWS UP TO 15 UNITS PER ACRE IS SOMETHING FROM A TRANSITION STANDPOINT, ACTUALLY A GOOD IDEA IN, IN, IN MY PERSONAL OPINION, NOT, NOT YOURS, BUT MINE.
AND SO IF THIS WERE TO BE RE REDEVELOPED THAT WAY, THIS WOULD ACTUALLY BE A, A PRETTY GOOD NEIGHBOR TO HAVE.
AND IN RELATION TO THE GENTLEMAN THAT THAT CAME UP HERE BEFORE, I'LL BE HAPPY TO MEET WITH THEM.
UM, THIS IS THE FIRST WE'VE HEARD OF THAT ISSUE, BUT AS MARTIN SAID, IT WILL BE A MORE OF A SURVEY SITUATION AND IF WE NEED TO KEEP THAT OPEN FOR WHATEVER REASON, WE WILL.
UM, TALBERT WAS SHOWING YOU THE SITE PLAN THAT WE ORIGINALLY PROVIDED, UM, JUST BECAUSE OF, FROM A TIMING PERSPECTIVE, WE WEREN'T ABLE TO GET THAT INTO HIM BEFORE HE FINALIZED HIS REVIEW.
BUT WE HAVE SUBMITTED A NEW, UH, VERSION OF THIS SHOWING THOSE LANDSCAPE BUFFERS ALONG THE SIDE, OR TWO SIDES ALONG CROSBY, CEDAR BAYOU, ALSO UP AND DOWN BESIDE THE, THE GAS STATION AND ALONG THE REAR AND ALONG THE EDGE.
SO JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT WE ARE WELL AWARE THAT WE HAVE TO MAKE THOSE CHANGES AND WE NEED TO FOLLOW THE ORDINANCE IN THAT CAPACITY.
BUT I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY OTHER QUESTIONS.
UM, THERE BEING NO ONE ELSE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK.
I CLOSE THIS PUBLIC HEARING AT 6:33 PM CONCERNING THE REQUEST TO AMEND OFFICIALS ZONING MAP OF 16.474 ACRES LOCATED AT 37 SAN CROSBY, CEDAR VALLEY ROAD FROM SR TO UR TO ALLOW FOR 273 UNITS.
ANY DISCUSSION? COMMISSIONERS, I SORRY, THIS IS PROBABLY FOR THE STAFF.
IF, IF WE DON'T HAVE THE UPDATED MAPS, CAN WE GET THOSE? BECAUSE ACCORDING IF THEY HAVE SUBMITTED MOST RECENT THEN WHEN THIS PACKAGE WAS DONE, CAN WE, THE, ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE SITE PLAN? CORRECT.
SO THE, AGAIN, THIS IS A CONCEPT, SO I, I THINK WHAT NATHAN IS TALKING ABOUT IS, IS NOT, AND NATHAN, MAYBE YOU CAN SPEAK TO THIS.
I DON'T THINK IT'S, IT'S A HUGE DEPARTURE FROM THIS.
IT'S STILL KIND OF THE SAME REQUEST.
SO CAN WE PROVIDE IT? UM, WE DON'T HAVE IT YET.
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WE HAVE IT NOW? WE DO.I SENT IT, BUT I DIDN'T BRING ANY EXTRA COPIES.
IS THAT IT REALLY, IT, IT, IT FUNCTIONS THE SAME WAY AS THIS, BUT IT JUST SHOWS YOU THAT WE ARE ACKNOWLEDGING THE FACT THAT THERE ARE OTHER REQUIREMENTS PER THE CODE AND WE ARE WELL AWARE OF THAT AND WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE DEFINITELY GONNA BE MEETING THOSE AT A MINIMUM.
AND, AND THIS WAS KIND OF MAYBE A IN, IN IN HOUSE HOUSEKEEPING TYPE OF THING.
THERE SEEMS TO BE A RECURRING ISSUE.
EVERYBODY KEEPS SAYING, HEY, WE HAVE UPDATED, WE HAVE UPDATED, I'VE PROVIDED IT AND IT WASN'T IN TIME TO SUBMIT IT FOR THE MEETING.
YOU KNOW, LET'S HAVE A DEADLINE.
IF THEY, I DON'T WANT THEM TO SAY, HEY, WE, YOU KNOW, IF YOU DON'T HAVE IT, WE UPDATED IT, YOU KNOW, KIND.
WE, WE DO HAVE TO SUBMITTAL DEADLINES, WHICH IS WHY YOU DON'T HAVE IT TONIGHT.
I DON'T WANT THEM TO KEEP TELLING US OH, THEY KNOW, DON'T THEY? NATHAN
SO WE DON'T HAVE ANY REALLY BEARING ON THAT.
NATHAN, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU STEP AWAY.
IS THIS MARKET RATE? UM, IT, IT IS, BUT THERE IS A POTENTIAL THAT THEY, THEY MIGHT BE ASKING, UM, THE, THE, MY CLIENT HASN'T MADE A DECISION AS OF YET NOW, BUT, UH, BUT THEY MIGHT BE GOING FOR, UM, A TAX CREDIT, UM, OPTION, BUT THEY WOULD BE COMING BACK TO THE CITY TO REQUEST THAT AT A LATER DATE.
AND SO TAX CREDITS, YOU HAVE TO HAVE A, A MINIMUM 20% SET ASIDE FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
UM, MY QUESTION IS, UM, THE, THE, THE BUFFER FOR MR. AND MS. ROBERTS, UM, I KNOW WE SAID IT'S DEPENDENT ON THE SURVEY, BUT CAN WE JUST, IS IT POSSIBLE TO JUST WRITE THAT IN AND SAY THERE HAS TO BE A BUFFER ALONG HIS PROPERTY? IT, IT'S BASICALLY WHAT MARTIN SAID BEFORE IS THAT IT IS A PART OF THE CODE.
WE HAVE TO MEET IT REGARDLESS.
UM, AND BECAUSE IT'S JUST A STRAIGHT ZONING REQUEST AND I'M NOT DOING A SPECIAL USE PERMIT OR MM-HMM
A PUD, UNFORTUNATELY, I DON'T, WELL, I'M SORRY I'M SPEAKING FOR YOU, BUT NO CONDITIONS ARE REALLY, UM, WARRANTED AT THAT PARTICULAR TIME.
IT, IT, IT, IT'S, IT WORKS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY THAN THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT DOES.
SO IT, IT, I MEAN, WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT, AGAIN, AS NATHAN MENTIONED, IS A STRAIGHT REZONE AND THERE ARE BUFFERING REQUIREMENTS.
UM, I THINK TALBERT SHOWED THAT, UH, EARLIER.
IT'S NOT A HUGE BUFFER, BUT THERE IS A BUFFER REQUIREMENT DEPENDING ON WHICH WAY THEY DECIDE TO GO WITH IT, WHETHER IT'S THE FIVE FOOT OR THE 15 FOOT.
UM, SO THAT WILL JUST DEPEND ON KIND OF HOW THE, THE DETAILED PLANS COME ALONG LATER.
AND I WOULD MAKE A SUGGESTION ACTUALLY TO, TO MR. ROBERTS THAT WE PROBABLY SHOULD USE THE MORE, I MEAN, WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO USE THE MAJORITY OR A MIXTURE OF BOTH, BUT, UM, UTILIZE THE BOTTOM VERSION, UM, AND ACTUALLY BURN IT UP SO THERE IS A MORE ELEVATION TO, TO THE PLANTINGS THAT, THAT WE'D BE PUTTING ON THAT, THAT PARTICULAR PART OF THE PROPERTY.
SO WE GIVE MORE, UH, BUFFERING, UH, AND HEIGHT TO, TO THE, TO THAT BUFFER.
MR. ROBERTS? YES, PLEASE APPROACH.
AND THESE ARE REALLY PRETTY PICTURES, BUT THEY'RE NOT REALLY GOOD.
UH, IT'S GOT A GOOD BUFFERING IT ALREADY, THAT ROAD'S GROWN UP
JUST STAY OFF OF IT AND THEN BE BUFFERED.
MI MR. ROBERTS, BEFORE YOU STEP AWAY, I WANNA LET YOU KNOW THAT, UM, WE ACKNOWLEDGE YOUR CONCERNS AND YOUR SITUATION.
WHEN WE VOTED FOR THE HUNT ROAD, WHAT WAS JUST DISCUSSED EARLIER, WE HAD A, A IDENTICAL SITUATION WITH ANOTHER GENTLEMAN, AND IT WAS DECIDED AT THAT TIME, UNFORTUNATELY, WITH THE INFLUX OF, OF HOUSTON GROWTH IN THE URBAN SPRAWL.
I KNOW WHEN YOU PURCHASED IT, IT WAS REAL COUNTRY.
AND WE WANT TO, I JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT WE ARE, WE ACKNOWLEDGE THAT AND IT IS A CONCERN AND UM, I JUST DIDN'T WANT YOU TO THINK WE WERE BRUSHING IT UNDER THE RUG.
UM, A FEW MONTHS AGO, WE HAD A PROPERTY THAT WAS BEING PROPOSED ON THE NORTH SIDE OF NANCY TOMKINS, AND WE WENT AROUND AND AROUND ABOUT THE TRAFFIC MM-HMM
AND YOU HAD THE SAME THING WITH A LOT MORE TRAFFIC.
AND THE CITY IS ASKING US TO DENY THIS REQUEST.
CAN WE BE REMINDED AS TO WHY WE'RE SUPPOSED TO DENY THIS
MR. RAY, MR. ROBERTS, DO YOU HAVE ANOTHER COMMENT? I DO.
I'D LIKE TO ALSO ADD THAT RUSH HOUR.
SO, I MEAN, IT'S BACKED UP IN FRONT OF MY HOUSE ALREADY.
I CAN'T IMAGINE WHEN YOU PUT APARTMENTS IN WHAT IT'S GONNA BE LIKE.
SO CURRENTLY UNDER THE ZONING, IF THEY BUILT THE APARTMENTS, THEY'RE FOUR UNITS PER ACRE, AND THIS ALLOWS 'EM TO GO TO 15, IS THAT DENSITY? SO WE'RE GONNA GET A, WHAT, FOUR, FOUR TIMES HIGHER DENSITY OF APARTMENTS ON THE PROPERTY IF THIS IS ALLOWED.
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CURRENTLY, UM, WITH OUR, UM, SUBURBAN RESIDENTIAL ZONING DISTRICT APARTMENTS WOULD NOT BE ALLOWED.UH, THESE WOULD BE FOR SINGLE FAMILY, PRIMARILY LARGE LOT UNITS, UH, WHERE THE DENSITY WOULD BE FOR UP TO FOUR, UH, DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE.
AND ADDITIONAL, I'M SORRY, GO AHEAD.
SO THE, MY OTHER CONCOMITANT IS, IS THAT, AND I'VE HEARD PEOPLE IN COUNCIL SAY THIS A LOT, IF COUNCIL IS GONNA HAVE A POLICY, THEN COUNCIL NEEDS TO STICK TO THEIR POLICY OR THEY NEED TO GET RID OF THEIR POLICY.
UH, AND, AND I'M OKAY WITH THE DISTANCE POLICY ON APARTMENTS BECAUSE I DON'T LIKE THESE CLUSTERS THAT WE SEE COMING IN.
AND THIS IS GONNA BE A NO VOTE FOR ME.
UH, TO BE CLEAR, STAFF WAS NOT RECOMMENDING OR, UH, UNDERSTAND OR SEEING ANYTHING THAT THEY MIGHT DO, JUST THAT THEY COULD DO THAT IF THEY WANTED TO.
AND THAT'S JUST PART OF THE PROCESS.
UM, I ALSO WAS LOOKING TO, UM, WAS IT COMMISSIONER SCOTT THAT ASKED ABOUT THE REASONS, UH, STAFF HAS RECOMMENDED DENIAL, UM, IN YOUR STAFF REPORT, IT'S ALSO GONNA LIST OUT WE HAVE CERTAIN CRITERIA AND THEY DON'T MEET THOSE MANY OF THOSE CRITERIA.
ONE OF THE BIG ONES IS IT DOESN'T MATCH THE, UM, FUTURE LAND USE MAP.
THAT'S KIND OF A, THAT'S A BIG CHUNK OF IT.
UM, AND I KNOW NATHAN KIND OF POINTED OUT THAT THAT MAP DOES PROBABLY, UM, WARRANT SOME ATTENTION.
UM, BUT AT THIS STAGE WE STAND BEHIND THAT, THAT, UH, RESIDENTIAL DESIGNATION.
I WAS JUST GONNA AGREE WITH MY FELLOW COMMISSIONER.
IT, IT'S GONNA BE A NOTE FOR ME.
IF YOU DRIVE UP AND DOWN IN ANY DIRECTION, NORTH, SOUTH, EAST, WEST, I MEAN, TRAFFIC IS CRAZY THERE.
AND YOU HAVE, YOU KNOW, ANOTHER 200 HOMES, 400 POTENTIAL CARS COMING DOWN BECAUSE WE'D HAVE TO DO SOMETHING IF, IF, IF THIS COMES BACK, WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT, ABOUT THE ROADS.
I MEAN, THAT'S A ONE WAY ROAD RIGHT NOW.
YOU CAN'T DO ANYTHING UP AND DOWN THERE.
AND THAT WAS KIND OF MY CONCERN ALSO INITIALLY WITH OUR FIRST, YOU KNOW, TOPIC TODAY, EVEN ON NORTH MAIN.
AND I CAN, BECAUSE IF WE PUT A CONVENIENCE STORE THERE, I MEAN, GOING NORTH ON NORTH MAIN CROSSING THAT I CAN INTERSECTION IS CRAZY.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS? COMMISSIONERS? ANY OTHER COMMENTS? I JUST WANT SEE IF WE COULD GO AHEAD AND MAKE A MOTION.
YEAH, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION.
I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO DENY THE REQUEST TO CHANGE THE, UM, THE ZONING MAP AMENDMENT TO SUBURBAN FROM SUBURBAN RESIDENTIAL TO URBAN RESIDENTIAL ZONING DISTRICT SECOND.
ALL IN FAVOR OF DENYING THE MOTION.
ALL OPPOSED TO DENYING THE MOTION.
ANY ABSTENTIONS? THE MOTION IS DENIED.
UM, LET'S TAKE A FIVE MINUTE BREAK, FOLKS.
YOU WANNA STRETCH YOUR LEGS? GO TO THE RESTROOM.
I NEED TO OWE ME A BREAK BACK.
I HAD MORE THAN ONE PERSON BEFORE THE MEETING.
SAY, CAN WE TAKE A BREAK AFTER? LIKE NO, YOU DID NOT FOREVER BE.
THAT'S PROBABLY, BUT YOU, I KNOW YOU HAD GOOGLE.
WE THEY ARE TAKING A FIVE MINUTE BREAK.
I JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU AN UPDATE.
I DID PROPOSE BELIEVE IT WAS GONNA BE LONG, BUT I DID NOT REALIZE THIS LOAN PROPERTY.
THERE'S STILL TWO BIG AGENDA ITEMS. OKAY.
I JUST WAS GIVING YOU AN UPDATE.
I DON'T THINK Y'ALL NEED TO DISCUSS THIS.
WE CAN'T DISCUSS THIS OUTSIDE OF NO, WE CAN'T HAVE BEEN
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ALREADY VOTED ON.YOU WOULD JUST HAVE TO PUT IT OUT THERE THAT YOU HAVE THE CONVERSATION.
MY BRAIN IS CLEARLY GETTING TIRED.
UM, SOMEBODY'S PREVIOUS QUESTION, ADMIT A, THAT'S WHY BACTERIA, YOU KNOW, NO.
AND SO WHAT MY SPEECH NOW IS, IS TIRED FROM BIG BOY.
THEY, THEY CALLED THAT ONE JUST ABOUT RIGHT.
LESLIE'S TRYING TO COLLECT INSURANCE WITH MY WIFE.
SHE DUMPS ALL THIS CANDY OVER HERE.
I, I'VE LEARNED JUST TO IGNORE IT.
HAVE YOU, HOW ARE YOU VANCE? I'M DOING GOOD.
OH, I WAS LIKE, I KNOW THAT GUY.
THAT WAS FROM, UH, SEVERAL YEARS AGO.
IT WAS CRAZY BECAUSE I KNOW THAT'S YOU BEING ABLE TO HIT CRAZY.
I TURNED IT UP AND TURNED IT DOWN.
I'M ACTUALLY HAVING A HARD TIME HEARING THEM BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT STICKING INTO THEIR MICROPHONE.
YOU EVER SEE ME DO IT? YOU'LL NOTICE THAT'S WHAT IT IS.
SOMETIMES I START GETTING FEEDBACK OFF OF THESE MICS TOO AND THAT IT'S KIND OF ANNOYING.
IT'S NOT ABOUT THE IS, BUT WHILE, WHILE, SORRY, TIME.
I SAW HIM LIVING OUT THE REST OF HIS LIFE ON THE WATER.
THAT TAKES BACK TO THE PRESENTATION.
I'M, IF YOU NEED TO GET TO LOOK SOMETHING, SEE DAYS IN A ROW.
BUT IT'S ACTUALLY, OH, HE IS TOMORROW'S OUR, BUT HE'S TOMORROW'S OUR
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VERY GOOD.I DON'T KNOW IF THEY KNOW THAT.
SO MY FATHER HAD OLD FASHIONED HEARING AIDS, THE KIND OF, YOU HAD TO VOLUME IT UP AND VOLUME IT DOWN.
SO WHEN MY MOMMA WOULD GET ON, START GETTING ON MY FATHER, YOU KNOW, TURN IT DOWN, HE'D REACH UP AND LOOK RIGHT AT HER.
SHE SHE JUST, SHE'D JUST TURN AROUND AND LOOK AT HER AND GO DONE WITH YOU.
ALL HUSBANDS NEED A HEARING AID THEN.
COMMISSIONER BOSTICK, UH, WE RECONVENED THE MEETING AT 6:40 PM WE'RE AT ITEM 3D.
CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDER A REQUEST TO AMEND THE OFFICIAL ZONING MAP TO REZONE APPROXIMATELY 25 POINT 2033 ACRES LOCATED AT 8,000 EAST INTERSTATE HIGHWAY 10 FROM FREEWAY COMMERCIAL TO LIGHT INDUSTRIAL.
IT'S NOW 6:51 PM AND I CALL THIS PUBLIC HEARING TO ORDER REGARDING THE SAME.
ALRIGHT, UH, FOR THE RECORD, UH, TALBERT JACKSON, SENIOR PLANNER OF CITY OF BAYTOWN, UM, ZONING ITEM 3D UH, IT'S PERTAINING TO PROPERTY AT 8,000 EAST INTERSTATE HIGHWAY 10.
UH, THE OBJECTIVE IS OF THE APPLICANT IS TO REZONE, UM, THE PROPERTY THROUGH A ZONING MAP AMENDMENT FROM FREEWAY COMMERCIAL TO LIGHT INDUSTRIAL.
UM, HERE'S THE VICINITY MAP OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.
UH, THE ORIGINAL APPLICATION PROVIDED BY THE APPLICANT WAS FOR THE ENTIRE, UM, PROPERTY THAT THEY HAVE UNDER CONTROL, WHICH WOULD LEAD ALL THE WAY DOWN TO NEEDLEPOINT ROAD.
UPON FURTHER DISCUSSION WITH, WITH STAFF, UH, DURING A SEPARATE ZOOM MEETING, UM, THE APPLICANT DECIDED TO CHANGE, MAKE IT AN, AN, UH, UH, UM, AN ADJUSTMENT TO WHERE IT IS THEY WOULD LIKE TO REZONE THE PROPERTY TO LIGHT INDUSTRIAL, WHICH IS NOW, WHICH IS WHAT IS PRESENTED BEFORE YOU ON, ON YOUR SCREEN.
UH, SO ORIGINALLY IT INCLUDED, UM, ALL THE WAY DOWN SHOLAN ROAD TO NEEDLEPOINT, AND THEY'VE MADE THAT MODIFICATION TO JUST THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.
UH, THIS SUBJECT PROPERTY IS ROUGHLY 11 ACRES.
UH, BUT FOR CONSISTENCY OF WHAT THE APPLICANT ACTUALLY SUBMITTED IN THE APPLICATION PACKET, UH, THEY SUBMITTED FOR 25, UH, OVER 20 ACRES, BUT IT'S REALLY FOR 11 ACRES.
JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THAT WAS CLEAR.
SO IT HELPS EXPLAIN THE DISCREPANCY FROM WHAT WAS PROVIDED FROM THE APPLICANT'S IN THE APPLICANT'S, UM, SUBMITTAL DOCUMENTS.
WITH THAT BEING SAID, UH, THIS IS A VICINITY MAP.
UH, THE CURRENT ZONING MAP, THE PROPERTY IS ZONED FREEWAY COMMERCIAL.
YOU CAN SEE THE SURROUNDING, UH, ZONING DISTRICTS, UM, AROUND THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.
THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP, UH, HAS THIS AREA SLATED FOR LARGE SCALE COMMERCIAL.
AND YOU ALSO SEE THE SURROUNDING, UH, FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATIONS.
THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO HAVE THE ZONING MAP AMENDMENT TO REZONE THE PROPERTY TO LIGHT INDUSTRIAL, WHICH IS THAT GRAY COLOR THAT YOU SEE.
UM, UH, AND IT ALSO, IT MA SOMEWHAT MATCHES THE, THE, UM, GRAY SCALE COLOR THAT YOU SEE ON OTHER, ON OTHER ADJACENT PROPERTIES.
UPON VISITING THE SITE AND PLACING, UH, DEVELOPMENT PERMIT SIGNS, UH, THIS IS A, A PHOTO OF THE SUBJECT SITE ALONG SHO SHOLAN ROAD, UH, FACING SOUTH.
THIS IMAGE IS ALONG SHOLAN ROAD FACING NORTH.
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EAST INTERSTATE HIGHWAY 10 FACING WEST.THAT WOULD BE TOWARDS THE EXISTING, UM, GAS STATION ON THE CORNER.
AND THIS IS ALONG EAST INTERSTATE HIGHWAY 10 FACING EAST.
SO, UH, WITH THE APPLICANT INTENDING TO REZONE THE PROPERTY TO LIGHT INDUSTRIAL, I WANTED TO ENSURE THAT OF OUR MOST INTENSE USES.
UM, I PROVIDED THIS SECTION OF THE LAND USE TABLE SO THAT YOU'D BE ABLE TO SEE, UM, SHOULD, UH, THE, THE, THE SHOULD THE ZONING MAP AMENDMENT, UH, BE APPROVED HERE IS THEI ZONING DISTRICT, WHICH I'M CIRCLING WITH THE MOUSE.
AND GOING DOWN, YOU'LL BE ABLE TO SEE, UM, THE ITEMS SUCH AS AN S, WHICH WILL INDICATE A SPECIAL USE PERMIT FOR SAND BLASTING, UM, LIMITED USE FOR, UH, CONTRACTOR SHOP AND OR SERVICE YARD EQUIPMENT SALES, AND SO ON AND SO FORTH.
THE OBJECTIVE THAT THE APPLICANT HAS IS TO DEVELOP WAREHOUSING, UH, TO SUPPORT, UM, UH, WAREHOUSING AND FREIGHT MOVEMENT.
AND AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE TABLE HERE, WITHIN THE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL ZONING DISTRICT, IT HAS A P MEANING PERMISSIBLE, BUT WITHIN THE FREEWAY COMMERCIAL ZONING DISTRICT, UM, IT IS PROHIBITED DESIGN, WHICH IS NOTATED BY THE DOUBLE DASHES HERE, AND YOU'LL SEE AT THE TOP OF THE TABLE, UH, PROHIBITED.
I, SO WITH THE PROPOSED, UM, ZONING MAP AMENDMENT TO LIGHT INDUSTRIAL, THERE WILL BE SOME BUFFER REQUIREMENTS JUST STANDARD AS PART OF DISTRICT BUFFER STANDARDS.
UM, UH, UH, UM, DISTRICT BUFFER TYPE, UH, B WOULD BE REQUIRED.
AND THESE ARE THE TWO OPTIONS THAT MAY BE, UH, AVAILABLE, UH, FOR CONSIDERATION AND DEVELOPMENT.
UM, THERE'S A STRUCTURAL TYPE AS WELL AS A NATURAL, UH, BUFFER YARD TYPE AS WELL AS SHOWING THE, THE REQUIRED MEASUREMENTS FOR EACH TYPE, STRUCTURAL OR NATURAL ACROSS THE TOP OF THIS AREA HERE WHERE THE MOUSE IS GOING LEFT TO RAIN, THIS IS A PROPOSED RENDERING OF WHAT, UH, THE APPLICANT HAS PROVIDED AS THEIR CONCEPT PLAN.
UH, IT INCORPORATES, UM, ROUGHLY 168,000 SQUARE FEET OF WAREHOUSING.
UM, THERE'S A PROPOSED DRIVEWAY GOING TO, UM, THE NORTHERN PORTION, NORTHEASTERN PORTION OF THE PROPERTY, UH, TOWARDS, UM, EAST IH 10 INTERSTATE HIGHWAY 10.
AND THERE DOES NOT APPEAR TO BE ANY FORM OF, UM, SEPARATION BETWEEN, UH, THE PROPOSED AREA FOR REZONING, WHICH IS ROUGHLY THIS AREA HERE DOES NOT APPEAR TO BE ANY SEPARATION BETWEEN THIS AND THE EXISTING DRIVEWAY ALONG SHO ROAD THAT AT THIS TIME PRETTY MUCH SUPPORTS THE, THE EXISTING GAS STATION AND CAR WASH.
AND THEN THERE IS AN ADDITIONAL, UM, DRIVEWAY JUST SOUTH OF, OF THE CAR WASH, UM, THAT PROVIDES FOR THAT FOR ACCESS HERE AT SOME POINT.
UH, BUT ACCORDING TO THE CONCEPT PLAN, THERE'S A PROPOSED DRIVEWAY HERE.
UH, SHOULD THIS PROJECT POTENTIALLY BE APPROVED FOR THE ZONING MAP AMENDMENT.
UM, ADDITIONALLY THERE SEEMS TO BE SOME, SOME FORM OF CONSIDERATION FOR DETENTION, UH, WHICH IS PROPOSED HERE.
AGAIN, THIS IS ALL CONCEPTUAL.
UM, THE APPLICANT WOULD NOT BE BEHOLDEN TO ADHERING TO THIS, UH, THIS CONCEPT PLAN AS THIS IS FOR A ZONING MAP AMENDMENT.
OVERALL, STAFF RECOMMENDS DENIAL OF THE PROPOSED ZONING MAP AMENDMENT, UH, TO, UH, REZONE THE PROPERTY FROM FREE FREEWAY COMMERCIAL TO LIGHTEN TO THE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL ZONING DISTRICT, UM, WITH TWO MAIN, TWO MAIN CONCERNS, UH, FOR REASONING TO DENY THE PROJECT.
UM, THERE ARE PURPOSES OF THE ULDC, UH, AND IN THE STAFF REPORT IT CALLS OUT CERTAIN THINGS.
AND OF THOSE ITEMS, UH, THERE'S QUALITY OF LIFE AS WELL AS STABILITY, UH, QUALITY OF LIFE, UH, PROVIDES PROTECTING THE CHARACTER AND STABILITY OF AGRICULTURAL, RESIDENTIAL, INSTITUTIONAL, COMMERCIAL, INDUSTRIAL, AND NATURAL AREAS.
UM, THE, THE, THE PROPOSED ZONING MAP AMENDMENT WOULD DISRUPT THIS IN SOME WAY.
UM, STABILITY, PROMOTING THE STABILITY OF EXISTING LAND USES, UH, THAT CONFORM WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND PROTECT THE EXISTING LAND USES FROM INHARMONIOUS INFLUENCES AND HARMFUL INTRUSIONS.
UM, THE EXTENSION OF THE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL ZONING DISTRICT TO EXTEND FURTHER WEST, UM, ACTUALLY PLACES THAT ZONING DESIGNATION OF LIGHT
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INDUSTRIAL CLOSER TO THE EXISTING RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES TO THE SOUTH.AND ACCORDING TO OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, THERE IS A LOCATION CRITERIA THAT THAT IS PROVIDED THAT HELPS GUIDE US IN UNDERSTANDING WHERE WE WOULD BE ABLE TO, OR HOW WE WOULD BE ABLE TO, UM, REZONE PROPERTY AND FOR CONSIDERATIONS OF INDUSTRIAL ZONING DISTRICTS ADJACENCY TO RESIDENTIAL.
AND WITH THAT, THERE IS FOR LIGHT INDUSTRIAL, THERE'S A 400 FOOT DISTANCE REQUIREMENT FROM RESIDENTIAL USES.
UH, THE PROPOSED ZONING DISTRICT OF LIGHT INDUSTRIAL IS WITHIN THAT 400, UH, FOOT DISTANCE.
AND SO IT IS, IT IS TOO CLOSE FOR, UH, TO BE LOCATED NEAR RESIDENTIAL ZONING, RESIDENTIAL USES.
UM, WITH THAT BEING SAID AGAIN, UH, STAFF RECOMMENDS DENIAL OF THE ZONING MAP AMENDMENT FROM FREEWAY COMMERCIAL TO LIGHT INDUSTRIAL, UH, PRIMARILY FOR THESE REASONS.
AND I AM AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
UH, I'M GOING TO, UH, MOVE THE SLIDES BACK TO, UH, THE PROPOSED MAP, THE PROPOSED ZONING AND MAP AMENDMENT, UH, FOR YOU ALL TO SEE.
UH, MR. ABDUL MOEN IS SIGNED UP TO SPEAK.
PLEASE COME AND, UH, SAY YOUR FULL NAME AND ADDRESS.
MY NAME IS AB MORIN, 7 7 3 0 EAST FREEWAY, BAYTOWN, TEXAS 7 7 5 2 0.
MY MAIN CONCERN HERE IS THE PUBLIC NOTICE SHOWS LIKE, UH, IF THEY'RE CHANGING WHAT IS THE COMMERCIAL TO RESIDENTIAL, THAT IS THE BIG MISTAKE ON THAT.
SO IN PUBLIC MIND, THEY, THEY UNDERSTAND THAT THEY ARE HAVING LIKE A RESIDENTIAL, UH, UNITS COMING OVER THERE.
AND THIS WHOLE THREE PARTIES LIKE A 25 ACRE AND ONE PARTY IS ALREADY DEVELOPED.
THIS A GAS STATION, 7.84 ACRE, SO IT'S NOT VACANT.
AND EVEN, UH, STOP RECORD ALSO SHOWS THE VACANT, BUT THIS PROPERTY IS NOT VACANT.
UH, CAN WE DOUBLE CHECK AND MAKE SURE, I THINK, I THINK ARE WE, ARE WE ON THE RIGHT PROPERTY HERE BY SHO AND I 10? THIS IS, UH, 8,000 EAST INTERSTATE HIGHWAY.
LET ME SHOW YOU THIS LIKE WHOLE PROPERTY FROM HERE TO THERE.
EVEN PROPOSED PLAN ALSO IN THIS ONE ALSO SHOWS THAT THAT HATCH AREA THAT IS 11 POINT 11 ACRE, THAT IS THE VACANT LAND.
YEAH, THAT'S, AND 7.84 ACRE IS THE GAS STATION AND BACK IS A DETENTION POINT POUND IS A 6.4.
I THINK I ALREADY GAVE ALL THE INFORMATION TO YOU GUYS.
ARE YOU OMNISTAR LLC THAT WROTE THIS LETTER? YEAH.
SO WE HAVE BEFORE AS A LETTER THAT HAS, AND THE, THIS IS LIKE CT O BAYTOWN HAS A RESTRICTION TO PUT A, WHAT YOU CALL A TRUCK STOP.
AND THAT IS LIKE A WORKAROUND WITH THE LIGHT INDUSTRY TO TRUCK STOP GETTING VARIANCE, VARIANCE AND MAKE A, WHAT YOU CALL TRUCK STOP.
SO THAT IS UP LIKE A, WHAT YOU CALL THOMPSON TO THREE THIRTY ONE SIXTY.
THERE IS NO TRUCK STOP THERE BECAUSE OF THE, UH, CITY OF BAYTOWN RESTRICTION FOR TRUCK STOP.
SO PEOPLE TRY TO PUT LIGHT INDUSTRY AND TAKE A VARIANCE AND MAKE A TRUCK STOP.
DON'T WE HAVE SOMETHING IN PLACE TO KEEP TRUCK STOPS? SO IN A CERTAIN PLACE, TRUCK STOP WOULD NOT BE ALLOWED IN THIS ZONING OR IN THIS LOCATION.
IF, IF ALLOWED LIKE, UH, THE, IF CITY ALLOWED THEM, THEY, THEY HAVE TO PUT SOME RESTRICTION ON THAT.
LIKE, UH, THEY THEY'RE NOT ALLOWED THEIR TRUCK STOP ON THERE, CORRECT? THEY'RE NOT ALLOWED.
BECAUSE WHEN I WAS BUILDING THAT TIME, MR. NATHAN WAS HERE, LIKE HE WAS A PLANNER, SO I KNOW HIM.
SO HE CAME LIKE FIVE TO SEVEN TIME TO MY, MY STATION.
AND HE SAY, ARE YOU PUTTING THE TRUCK STOP HERE? I SAID, NO, THERE IS NO PLACE TO GO STAND THE TRUCK THERE.
ONLY PART LIKE A 31 80 IS NOT A PART OF BAYTOWN.
SO THERE IS A FIRST TRUCK STOP COME THERE AFTER THOMPSON.
AND THERE IS A LOT OF AMBIGUITY ON THAT, LIKE, UH, ERROR ON THOSE PART OF NOTICE.
NOTICE THEY ARE ASKING LIKE WE ARE CONVERTING THIS, UH, WHAT YOU CALLED COMMERCIAL TO RESIDENTIAL.
THAT IS THE BIG THINGS AND ASKING FOR 25 PE VEHICLE.
BUT THIS NOT 25 PERE VEHICLE LANE, ONLY 11 POINT 11 OCCUR.
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MO, THANK YOU SO MUCH.THERE BEING NO ONE ELSE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK.
I CLOSE THIS PUBLIC HEARING AT 7:04 PM ANY DISCUSSION? COMMISSIONERS YOU NEED TO BE MINUTED.
YEAH, SO IT WENT FROM 25 ACRES AND TALBOT SAID HE WAS GONNA EXPLAIN THIS TO US TO 11 ACRES.
AND I I WOULD LIKE A, JUST A CLARIFICATION REAL QUICK.
IS MR. MOMEN, YOU'RE A, YOU'RE A NEIGHBOR? YES.
OKAY, SO YOU'RE NOT THE APPLICANT? NO.
SO THE INFORMATION IN FRONT OF YOU CAME FROM THE APPLICANT.
SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS THE 25 ACRES, NOT 11 ACRES OR WHATEVER THAT WAS, BUT THEY CHANGED IT TO 11.
THE APPLICANT CHANGED IT? NO, THEY DID NOT.
AS OF, UM, AS OF A, A MEETING, UH, MY APOLOGIES MARTIN.
I, I BELIEVE WHILE YOU WERE OUT, UH, THE APPLICANT MADE A CHANGE.
NOT THE WHOLE AREA, JUST THAT SECTION TEACH YOU NOT TO SHOW UP.
SO MR. MALMAN, YOU SAID HE OWNS THE GAS STATION.
MR. MALMAN, PLEASE COME BACK UP.
HE WROTE THE LETTER ASKING TO DENY.
I HAVE SEVERAL GAS STATION IN BAYTOWN.
ONE WAS WHEN ALEXANDER, WE SOLD OUT, UH, TWO YEARS AGO.
I HAVE ONE IN, UH, WHAT IS CALLED CROSBY 90.
WE HAVE ONE LAND ALREADY IN I 10, UH, IN A COUNTY.
SO WE HAVE SEVERAL GAS STATION AND WE HAVE A 1942 THAT'S, UH, ON, UH, IS ALSO CROSBY.
BUT HOW ARE YOU, HOW ARE YOU, YOU A NEIGHBOR TO THIS SUBJECT PROPERTY? THIS ACROSS THE STREET? WE HAVE A GAS STATION THERE ACROSS THE STREET? YES.
THIS PROPERTY, UH, COMMISSION, UM, I WOULD SUGGEST, SINCE THE OWNER DOES NOT APPEAR TO BE HERE TONIGHT, I, I, I THINK THERE'S WAY TOO MANY, UM, LIKE LAST MINUTE CHANGES AND QUESTIONS AND THAT, UM, BEFORE WE SPEND A TON OF TIME ON THIS, I MIGHT RECOMMEND TO THE COMMISSION THAT YOU TABLE THIS TO NEXT MONTH.
AND I GONNA ASK IF WE CAN MAKE A MOTION TO DENY.
I'M, YOU, YOU CAN HAVE SECOND.
AND, AND I'M MAKING THAT MOTION RIGHT NOW.
ALL IN FAVOR OF DENYING, UH, ITEM 3D SAY AYE.
ALL OPPOSED TO DENYING ANY ABSTENTIONS.
WE MOVE ON TO ITEM THREE E UH, ZONING, CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING CONSIDERING A REQUEST TO AMEND THE BAYTOWN 2040 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TO ADD TEXT TO THE FUTURE LAND USE PLAN AND THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP.
IT'S NOW 7:06 PM AND I CALL THIS PUBLIC HEARING REGARDING THE FLUFF AND THE FLUB TO ORDER.
CALVIN ABRAM, THANK YOU CALVIN.
PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT, UH, WHAT YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU HEAR TODAY IS A REQUEST TO AMEND THE 2040 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
UH, BUT BEFORE WE GET INTO IT, I JUST WANT TO PROVIDE A LITTLE BACKGROUND TO IT.
UM, THERE MAY BE, UM, STATE LEGISLATION THAT MAY MOVE FORWARD THAT MAY CAUSE SOME RESTRICTIONS OR LESS FLEXIBILITY THAT MUNICIPALITIES HAVE WITHIN OUR EXTRA TERRITORIAL JURISDICTIONS.
THEREFORE, WE ARE PRESENTING TO, UM, THIS BODY AND ULTIMATELY THE CITY COUNCIL SOME AMENDMENTS THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO MAKE TO OUR, UH, 2040 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT WOULD ALLOW US MORE FLEXIBILITY IN THE FUTURE IF THOSE CHANGES DO BECOME PREVALENT.
SO WHAT WE HAVE HERE IS THE 2040 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
WHAT, WHAT IS THAT? UH, THE 2040 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS A GUIDING DOCUMENT TO MUNICIPALITIES THAT IDENTIFY HOW THE CITY WILL DEVELOP OVER THE NEXT 10 TO 20 YEARS.
AND PART OF THAT COMP PLAN, THERE ARE SEVERAL PLANS THAT MAKE IT UP.
YOU HAVE THE MAJOR THOROUGHFARE PLAN, YOU HAVE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, YOU HAVE LAND USE, YOU HAVE THE HOUSING PLAN, AND THEN YOU HAVE SOME IMPLEMENTATION STRATEGIES AT THE END THAT PROVIDE GUIDANCE AND FUNDING MECHANISMS TO MAKE THAT THAT PLAN COME TO FRUITION.
WHAT WE ARE ASKING HERE TO DO IS TWO THINGS.
ONE, TO AMEND THE LANGUAGE WITHIN THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP.
THERE IS A NOTE BOX IN THE LOWER RIGHT HAND CORNER, AND THIS IS WHAT THE BOX CURRENTLY SAYS.
WE WERE ASKING TO AMEND THIS NOTE BOX
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TO ADD A THIRD NOTE.THE THIRD NOTE WOULD CALL OUT WHEN MAKING DECISIONS WITHIN THE ETJ LARGE SCALE DEVELOPMENT SHALL BE GIVEN PRIORITY.
SO AGAIN, WHAT YOU WOULD SEE HERE, THIS THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP WOULD LOOK EXACTLY LIKE IT DOES AT THIS MOMENT.
CURRENTLY, THERE ARE TWO NOTES WITHIN THAT WE WOULD ADD A THIRD NOTE INTO THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP THAT IDENTIFIES WHAT WE CALLED OUT, THAT THE ETJ WILL GIVE, UM, PRIORITY CONSIDERATION TO LARGE SCALE DEVELOPMENTS.
THE NEXT, WITHIN THE TEXT OF THE COMP PLAN, UM, WHAT WE WERE LOOKING AT IS, UM, BERT BRIEFLY CALLED OUT A THING THAT I IDENTIFIED AS THE LOCATION CRITERIA AND WHAT THAT LOCATION CRITERIA DOES.
IT PROVIDES US WITH MORE SPECIFIC GUIDANCE UNDER PARTICULAR LAND USE CATEGORIES THAT THINGS WE SHOULD CONSIDER WHEN WE'RE MAKING DECISIONS AND IT SHOULD ALIGN WITH OUR UNIFIED LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.
AND THIS CASE WE'RE LOOKING AT THE LARGE SCALE DEVELOPMENT, THE INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT, AND THE HEAVY INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT.
WHAT THEY WILL HAVE IS AN ADDITIONAL BULLET, AND IN EACH OF THOSE CATEGORIES, THE BULLET WILL REPEAT THE SAME THING.
WHEN MAKING DECISIONS WITHIN THE ETJ LARGE SCALE DEVELOPMENTS SHALL BE GIVEN PRIORITY.
IN ADDITION TO THAT, UNDER HEAVY INDUSTRIAL, THERE'S UH, A PASSAGE THAT'S UNDER THERE.
UM, AND WE'RE ASKING TO MAKE AN AMENDMENT TO THAT PASSAGE AS WILL.
UH, THE PASSAGE IS SEVERAL SENTENCES.
HOWEVER, RATHER THAN READING THE ENTIRE PASSAGE, I'LL JUST CALL OUT THE CHANGE THAT'S GOING TO BE IN THERE.
AND THE CHANGE SIMPLY SAYS, IF NECESSARY, ADDITIONAL INDUSTRIAL DISTRICTS AREAS MAY BE ESTABLISHED WITHIN THE CITY OF BAY TOWN'S, ETJ.
THOSE ARE THE CHANGES WE ARE ASKING TO AMEND WITHIN THE 2040 COMP PLAN.
WHY ARE WE MAKING THOSE CHANGES? ONE, WE WANT TO BE RESPONSIVE TO POTENTIAL LEGISLATION THAT MAY COME INTO THE FUTURE.
IT ALLOWS US TO BE MORE FLEXIBLE AND PROACTIVE TO DEVELOPMENT AND TRENDS WITHIN OUR ETJ.
AND IT ALLOWS FOR THE GROWTH OPPORTUNITIES, AGAIN, AS WE SEE NEW DEVELOPMENTS AND HOW THEY'RE COMING THROUGH OUR ETJ.
FINALLY, RE RECOMMENDATION IS PLANNING DEVELOPMENT IS REQUESTING THAT THIS BODY APPROVES THE AMENDMENTS TO OUR 2040 COMP PLAN.
AND THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS HERE IS IS THAT, UH, NO ONE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK? I CLOSE THIS PUBLIC HEARING AT 7:12 PM ANY DISCUSSION? COMMISSIONER? THANK YOU.
IS THAT, UH, POTENTIAL, UH, TEXAS OR FEDERAL? TEXAS? THE STATE OF TEXAS.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? WHAT IS THE SPECIFIC LEGISLATION YOU'RE SCARED OF? I'M SORRY.
DID HE SAY SCARED? YOU SAY YOU'RE SAYING POTENTIAL LIKE HE'S LOOKING AT ME BECAUSE HE DOESN'T WANNA SAY MORE SPECIFICALLY THE HAIL.
WE HAVE A HABIT OF OF, YOU KNOW, WHO, WHERE'S YOUR MAGIC BALL THAT TELLS YOU WHAT THE STATE LEGISLATURE'S GONNA DO ON ANY GIVEN DAY.
SO WE, WE DO NOT KNOW THAT THIS WILL HAPPEN, AS YOU JUST POINTED OUT.
UM, WE ARE ANTICIPATING CONVERSATIONS REGARDING OUR ETJ AND THE CITY'S, UH, POTENTIAL TO CONTINUE HAVING ANY JURISDICTION IN THE EJS MOVING FORWARD.
THIS HAS COME UP, UH, MORE THAN ONCE AT THE STATE LEGISLATIVE, UH, LEVEL.
WE EXPECT IT TO KEEP COMING UP.
AND WHAT WE'RE PROVIDING NOW IS BASICALLY SOME PREP WORK TO, UM, TO ALLOW FOR US TO KEEP THE SAME LEVEL OF JURISDICTION THAT WE HAVE.
THIS WOULD NOT GIVE US ANY MORE JURISDICTION, BUT IT WOULD DO TWO THINGS.
IT WOULD KEEP US AT THE SAME LEVEL AND IT WOULD ALSO ALLOW US TO, UM, TO PROTECT OUR WATER AND OTHER INFRASTRUCTURE RESOURCES BETTER.
BECAUSE IF THAT SHOULD HAPPEN AGAIN, NO CRYSTAL BALL HERE, BUT OUR, OUR, OUR BEST GUESS IS THAT IT MAY HAPPEN.
AND IF IT DOES, WE WANT TO BE PREPARED FOR THAT AND NOT GET CAUGHT WITH OUR PANTS DOWN.
YOU STILL DIDN'T ANSWER MY QUESTION.
SO WHAT MAY HAPPEN, WHAT SPECIFIC THINGS A THREAT GONNA COME DO TO YOUR ETE G TO TELL YOU YOU CAN OR CANNOT DO? ELIMINATE THEM TO WHAT? THEY WOULD ELIMINATE THEM.
SO TO ME, I HEAR 2017 AND LIKE THE MASS ANNEXATIONS THAT WE DID INVOLUNTARILY AND THIS IS HOW THE CONVERSATION STARTED AND THEN IT ENDED UP HURTING A LOT MORE PEOPLE.
IF THE STATE, IF THERE'S A REASON,
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AND YES, I'M HEARD AND SEEN THE CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THE ELIMINATION IN THE, IN THE LESS CONTROL THAT WE WILL HAVE OVER AREAS THAT DON'T PAY OUR TAXES.I I I THINK THAT WE HAVE OTHER FUTURE LAND USE MAP AND FUTURE LAND USE PLAN PRIORITIES.
LIKE WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE THAT WE SHOULD BE FOCUSED ON.
I, I MOTION TO, UH, GO WITH RECOMMENDED RECOMMENDATION FROM THE STAFF.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF APPROVING ITEM THREE E SAY AYE.
ANY ABSTENTIONS? MOTION CARRIES.
UM, BUT I, I'M, I'M ACTUALLY GONNA FLIP THOSE.
UM, AS YOU MAY OR MAY NOT KNOW, I THINK I NEGLECTED TO ANNOUNCE THIS AT OUR MAY MEETING 'CAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE ONE IN APRIL.
UM, WE, UM, WE DID, UM, AFTER ONE OF OUR, AFTER OUR SENIOR PLANNER, UM, LEFT US EARLIER THIS YEAR, UM, WE DID MAKE A DECISION TO PROMOTE TALBERT TO SENIOR PLANNER.
SO, UM, CONGRATULATIONS TO TALBERT.
UM, AND UM, WITH THAT AT LEFT THE PLANNER TO POSITION OPEN.
SO TONIGHT I WANTED TO INTRODUCE TO AUSTIN CHEN, WHO'S HERE FROM, UH, NASHVILLE.
AND, UH, HE IS OUR NEW PLANNER TOO.
AND YOU'VE BEEN IN, UM, ORIENTATION ALL DAY, RIGHT? YES, SIR.
SO YOU WILL SEE, UH, AUSTIN PRESENTING TO YOU IN THE VERY NEAR FUTURE AS SOON AS WE GET HIM TRAINED UP TO BAYTOWN STANDARDS.
SO, SO WELCOME TO AUSTIN, YOU'RE HERE, YOU'RE AT BAYTOWN STANDARDS.
UM, THE, UM, THE OTHER ITEM I HAVE AND, AND IF YOU HAVEN'T BEEN READING THE PAPER, UM, THE CITY COUNCIL DID APPROVE THE SHORT TERM RENTAL REGULATIONS AFTER, WHEN DID YOU GUYS SEE THOSE? THAT WOULD'VE BEEN BACK IN MARCH, I THINK IN FEBRUARY OR MARCH.
UM, WE HAVE GONE THROUGH I THINK THREE DIFFERENT ITERATIONS OF THIS AT THIS STAGE.
AND SO THESE HAVE BEEN APPROVED.
THE BIGGEST CHANGES TO REMOVE THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT AND REQUIRE A WHAT IS MORE LIKE A, JUST A NORMAL LICENSE OR PERMIT THAT WOULD HAPPEN ON AN ANNUAL BASIS WITH A, WITH A, UM, AN INSPECTION.
UM, WE ARE ALSO LOOKING TO HIRE A THIRD PARTY THAT WOULD DO, THAT, WOULD IMPLEMENT THE PROGRAM AND ALSO, UM, DO A LARGE MAJORITY OF THE ENFORCEMENT, UH, MOVING FORWARD JUST FOR, JUST FOR SHORT TERM RENTALS.
UM, THERE ARE SOME OTHER SPECIFICS IN THERE THAT DID CARRY OVER.
IT WAS THE, THE LIMIT ON NUMBER OF OCCUPANTS, THE MINIMUM NUMBER OF OFF STREET PARKING SPACES, THE POSTING OF INFORMATION, HAVING SOMEBODY WITHIN 50 MILES THAT CAN BE AVAILABLE 24 HOURS, THAT SORT OF THING.
SO, UM, THAT HAS BEEN APPROVED AND THAT ACTUALLY WOULD'VE GONE INTO EFFECT YESTERDAY, I THINK YESTERDAY OR SUNDAY, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
SO THAT IS NOW, UM, PART OF OUR CODE.
SO I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU GUYS KNEW ABOUT THAT.
THERE IS A FEE ATTACHED TO THAT AS WELL.
UM, THAT WILL IS ALSO IN EFFECT NOW.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF ADJOURNING? AYE.
AYE,