* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:01] I NOW CALL TO ORDER THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF BAYTOWN MEETING AND JOINT MUNICIPAL DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT MEETING ON THURSDAY, JULY 9TH, 6:30 PM IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBER CITY HALL, AN ANNOUNCEMENT OF QUORUM AT 6:38 PM AND WE WILL HAVE THE PLEDGE AND INVOCATION TAKEN CARE OF BY A BRAND NEW COUNCIL MEMBER. , CLEAN SHAVEN DISTRICT SIX, MIKE LESTER. TAKE IT AWAY. YEAH. MAYOR, IF, IF YOU INDULGE ME, WE HAVE, OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE THE BAYTOWN LITTLE LEAGUE REPRESENTED. WELL, HERE WE HAVE TWO YOUNG GENTLEMEN THAT ARE GONNA GIVE US OUR PLEDGES TODAY. ONE IS DRAKE SHIMING, AND THE OTHER IS ANTHONY PUENTE. THEY NEED TO COME UP AND I TOLD 'EM IT WOULD BE ON THE SCREEN AND HELP 'EM OUT A LITTLE BIT. THERE THEY COME. RIGHT? PULL IT. HOW PLEDGE IS BY THE UNITED STATES, AMERICA. AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. HONOR THE TEXAS BLACK, THE OBLIGATION TO THE TEXAS ONE STATE UNDER GOD WON IN THE INDIVISIBLE, WAS TRYING TO STILL SECOND SCHOOL. GOOD JOB, GENTLEMEN. GOOD JOB. ALL RIGHT. IF, IF YOU WOULD JOIN ME IN A QUICK PRAYER. HEAVENLY FATHER, WE STAND BEFORE YOU TONIGHT. AND AGAIN, WE ASK FOR YOUR WISDOM AND GUIDANCE. AS WE BEGIN THIS MEETING, FILL US WITH YOUR GRACE AS WE MAKE DECISIONS TO PROMOTE THE NEEDS OF OUR COMMUNITY, BALANCED BY THE NEEDS OF OUR INDIVIDUALS. CONTINUE TO REMIND US THAT ALL THAT WE DO HERE TODAY, ALL THAT WE ACCOMPLISH IS IN PURSUIT OF THE TRUTH FOR YOUR GREATER GLORY. WE ASK THESE THINGS IN YOUR NAME. AMEN. AMEN. AMEN. START OFF WITH CITIZEN COMMENT. DO WE HAVE ANYONE ELSE, ANYONE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK? NO, SIR. GOOD DEAL. WELL, I'M GOING TO TAKE A POINT OF PRIVILEGE AND BEFORE WE GET INTO MUNICIPAL DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT ITEMS, UM, WE'RE GONNA MOVE FOUR A UP. UH, AND BEFORE WE DO THAT, WE HAVE SOMEONE IN THE AUDIENCE, FORMER JUDGE DON COFFEE HERE. WOULD YOU WAVE AND LET THE AUDIENCE SEE YOU? OR YOU CAN STAND. THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE IT. YES, SIR. YOU HAVE DISTRICT FOUR RESIDENT. A DISTRICT FOUR RESIDENT. MM-HMM . OKAY. GOOD DEAL. WE GOT A BOARD OF REGENTS TOO. OH YEAH. AND WE ALSO HAVE A, A LEE COLLEGE BOARD OF REGENT HERE. WOULD YOU PLEASE STAND? DO YOU HAVE IT? THANK AND A FORMER MAYOR OUT IN THE FOYER. MAYOR INGER, WOULD YOU WAVE? HE'S HEAD AND SHOULDERS ABOVE EVERYONE OUT THERE, . GOOD DEAL. THANK YOU ALL FOR SHOWING UP TO SUPPORT US. I KNOW THAT YOU ALL SHOWED UP TO SUPPORT THE OTHER GOVERNING BODY HERE IN BAYTOWN. RIGHT? SO, UM, [a. Recognize the Baytown Little League for its outstanding season and achievements.] LET'S MOVE UP RECOGNITIONS AND CITIZEN COMMUNICATIONS. RECOGNIZE THE BAYTOWN LITTLE LEAGUE FOR ITS OUTSTANDING SEASON AND ACHIEVEMENTS. AND I'M GONNA PASS THAT OVER TO MR. JAMES FRANCO. MR. ALRIGHT, WELL, I'D LIKE TO, TO THANK ALL THE LITTLE LEAGUE FOR COMING OUT HERE. AND I UNDERSTAND ALL Y'ALL SACRIFICE AS BEING A FORMER LEAGUE, UH, VICE PRESIDENT AND A FORMER, UH, PLAYER. AGENT. SO I, IT IT'S A LOT OF WORK AND IT'S A LOT OF DEDICATION Y'ALL PUT INTO THESE FIELDS, UH, CITY PARKS AND STAFF. I'D LIKE TO THANK Y'ALL FOR ALL THAT Y'ALL DO TO, TO ALLOW THESE KIDS TO HAVE THESE FIELDS TO PRACTICE ON AND PLAY ON. AND, AND IT'S, IT'S A FUN THING. IT'S, UH, MY KIDS GREW UP ON THESE FIELDS. UH, I KNOW THEY ALL, Y'ALL STARTED A LITTLE LEAGUE TEE BALL AND YOU'RE GO 12. WE'LL HOPE TO SEE Y'ALL AT THE, AT THE BIG JENKIN AT THE JENKINS FIELDS AND, AND THEN SEEING Y'ALL BOYS PLAY HERE AT STARLING, PREFER, PREFERABLY STERLING 'CAUSE THAT'S THE BETTER SCHOOL. RANGER, UH, LEE RANGER, GC RANGER, EH, THAT OTHER ONE GCM. BUT [00:05:01] NO, WE CAN, WE HOPE TO SEE Y'ALL CONTINUE Y'ALL'S CAREER AND CONTINUE TO SEE THOSE JUST AS WE SEE A LITTLE LEAGUER RIGHT NOW THAT JUST MADE, WE SAW THE BAYTOWN SUN JUST MADE AN ALL STAR TEAM, UH, THE FIRST PROFESSIONAL ALL-STAR TEAM IN THE CANADIAN LEAGUE, AND DEREK CHERRY WHO CAME THROUGH THESE LITTLE LEAGUES ALSO. SO, AND THROUGH GCM. SO AS A FORMER PARENT FOR LITTLE LEAGUE AND A FORMER BOARD MEMBER, I REALLY APPRECIATE ALL Y'ALL COMING OUT HERE, ALL Y'ALL'S ACCOMPLISHMENTS. I KNOW HOW HARD IT IS TO WIN A A LEAGUE CHAMPIONSHIP, A A, A AND ALSO GET TO THE, TO THE, TO WHERE YOU'RE AT. SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, I'M GONNA CALL PRESIDENT SEAN SHIMMING IN HIS FINAL YEAR HERE. AND, UH, THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING HE'S DONE FOR THIS LITTLE LEAGUE AND WHERE HE'S TAKEN THIS LITTLE LEAGUE. SO, SEAN, PLEASE LET US KNOW ABOUT YOUR KIDS. THANK Y'ALL FOR HAVING US OUT TONIGHT. UH, FOR MORE THAN 70 YEARS, BAYTOWN LITTLE LEAGUE HAS BEEN AROUND, HAS BEEN PROUD TO SERVE THE YOUTH OF OUR COMMUNITY, PROVIDING A PLACE FOR KIDS TO LEARN, COMPETE, AND CREATE LIFELONG MEMORIES. UH, THIS PAST SEASON WAS ONE OF THE MOST SUCCESSFUL ALL-STAR SEASONS IN MANY YEARS. OUR SEVEN U 10 U MAJORS AND SENIOR TEAMS ALL CAPTURED DISTRICT CHAMPIONSHIPS. OUR MAJORS ADVANCED ALL THE WAY TO THE SECTIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP GAME WHILE OUR NINE U TEAM BATTLED ALL THE WAY TO THE DISTRICT CHAMPIONSHIP GAME. FOLLOWING JUST SHORT, UH, THESE ACCOMPLISHMENTS ARE A TESTAMENT TO THE HARD WORK OF OUR PLAYERS, COACHES, FAMILIES, VOLUNTEERS, AND THE INCREDIBLE SUPPORT OF OUR COMMUNITY. UM, BAYTOWN LITTLE LEAGUE WOULD, UH, LIKE TO GIVE A HEARTFELT THANK YOU TO THE BAYTOWN CITY COUNCIL PARKS AND RECS FOR INVESTING IN OUR YOUTH AND PROVIDING QUALITY FACILITIES WHERE OUR KIDS CAN PLAY THE GAME THEY LOVE. UH, YOUR CONTINUED SUPPORT GIVES THESE YOUNG ATHLETES THE OPPORTUNITY TO REPRESENT BAYTOWN WITH PRIDE, BUILD CHARACTER AND STRENGTH IN OUR COMMUNITY. UH, HERE'S TO CONTINUING THE TRADITION OF EXCELLENCE FOR THE NEXT GENERATION OF BAYTOWN LITTLE LEAGUE. THANK YOU. UM, IF WE COULD, WE'D LIKE TO BRING UP THE TEAMS INDIVIDUALLY. SO YOU WANT START, WE'LL START WITH THE SEVEN. YOU, YOU CALL 'EM OUT, SEAN. SEVEN BOYS A YEAH. Y WANNA COME DOWN FOR COME DOWN AND GET A PICTURE WITH COUNCIL. DON'T FORGET THE DON'T, HEY, DON'T FORGET THE MANAGERS WHO PUT THEIR TIME IN BECAUSE THE, THE MANAGERS REALLY DO. THAT'S A LOT OF TIME TO, TO PUT IN WITH THESE KIDS RUSHING HOME FROM SHIFT WORK TO GET THERE AND BE LIKE, ALL RIGHT GUYS, SEE THE LIGHT UP HERE. HANG ON. HOOK, BE BY THE LIGHT. HE'S TELL YOU. YEAH. NO, NO, YOU'RE GOOD. I LIKE THOSE SUNGLASSES. IT'S ABOUT TO SWAG. YOU FEEL GOOD? PLAY GOOD. THAT'S RIGHT. TAKE 'EM OFF. TAKE THE GLASSES. UH OH. MOM GOT ONTO YOU. LET'S GO THIS WAY. LET'S GO THIS, LET'S GO THIS. EVERYBODY SHE HAD FOR MINE. HANG ON, HANG ON. WE GOTTA, Y'ALL COME RIGHT THERE. YOU SURE YOU ARE WE GOOD? ARE Y'ALL READY? ALRIGHT, HERE WE GO. 1, 2, 3. GET ONE MORE. OH, PARENTS ARE TAKING PHOTOS. OKAY, I SEE. OKAY, COOL. NEXT. THESE ARE THE, THESE ARE THE PITCHERS. WHO'S THE PITCHER? YOU'RE A PITCHER. GET UP FRONT. TALL. TALL GUYS HANG OUT IN THE BACK, BUT THE OTHER GUY'S GOTTA COME UP. THIS IS OUR 10 U DISTRICT CHAMPS. THAT WAS OUR SEVEN U DISTRICT. CHAMPS SEVEN U WAS UNDEFEATED IN DISTRICT CLAY. YEAH. AND THE NINE U OR THE 10 U WAS UNDEFEATED AS WELL. YEP. MOM KNOWS HOW TO GET THERE. GOOD. GOOD. OKAY. AND NOW OUR 12 YOU DISTRICT CHAMPS. THAT WAS ALSO UNDEFEATED. THE MANAGER RESTAURANT IS THE MANAGER. MY BABY'S RIGHT HERE. GOOD JOB GUYS. JOB. THEY'RE BIG. SEE, PICTURE PICTURE. YOU'RE BATTING THIRD. OH MAN, YOU BAT THIRD CLEANUP RIGHT HERE. ALRIGHT, Y'ALL DONE THIS. SHOULD [00:10:02] I BE ABLE TO SEE YOUR EYES WITH THAT? HERE WE GO. YOU GOT A MEAN MUG DOG. THE DAD. OH, I DIDN'T, I DIDN'T KNOW JOHNNY WAS HERE. NOW [a. Conduct a public hearing concerning the Baytown Municipal Development District's Fiscal Year 2026-2027 Proposed Budget.] MOVING ON TO TWO, A MUNICIPAL DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT. THIS PUBLIC HEARING TODAY IS BEING HELD FOR THE PURPOSE OF GIVING ALL INTERESTED PERSONS THE RIGHT TO EXPRESS THEIR VIEWS REGARDING THE SUBJECT OF THIS PUBLIC HEARING. EVERYONE DESIRING TO BE A PART OF TODAY'S HEARING SHOULD HAVE EITHER SIGNED THE APPROPRIATE LISTING THE FOUR YEAR EMAILED THE CITY CLERK PRIOR TO THE POSTED TIME OF THIS MEETING. EACH PARTICIPANT SHALL GIVE HIS OR HER NAME AND ADDRESS IN ORDER TO PROVIDE A PROPER RECORD OF THIS HEARING. THE RULES ALLOW EACH PERSON THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK. HOWEVER, I ENCOURAGE EVERYONE TO BE AS BRIEF AND TO THE POINT AS POSSIBLE. IF YOU ARE A GROUP OF PERSONS WISHING TO ADDRESS THE BOARD ON THE SAME SUBJECT, PLEASE SELECT A SPOKESPERSON TO PRESENT THE INFORMATION. AND IF ANYONE HAS ANY QUESTIONS, PLEASE DIRECT THEM TO ME. THERE'S TWO PEOPLE IN THE AUDIENCE. THEY'RE SAYING THEY CAN'T HEAR HEAR YOU WHEN YOU WERE TALKING. AND I THINK IT'S JUST BECAUSE THE DOOR'S OPEN AND THERE'S STILL A LOT OF SHADOW TOWARDS THE AUDIENCE THERE. THE GENTLEMAN TRYING TO GET YOUR ATTENTION. SO TWO A CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING CONCERNING THE BAYTOWN MUNICIPAL DEVELOP DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT'S FISCAL YEAR 20 26, 20 27, PROPOSED BUDGET. IT IS NOW 6:50 PM AND I WILL CALL THIS CALL TO ORDER THIS PUBLIC HEARING CONCERNING THE BAYTOWN MUNICIPAL DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT'S FISCAL YEAR 20 26, 20 27. PROPOSED BUDGET. I WOULD LIKE TO ASK STAFF TO SUMMARIZE THE SUBJECT OF THIS PUBLIC HEARING. MS. MCKENZIE, UH, EVENING MAYOR AND COUNSEL. UM, THE BUDGET YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU REMAINS THE SAME AS WHAT WAS PRESENTED ON JUNE 25TH. UM, IT REFLECTS 9.9 MILLION IN REVENUE, 9.1 MILLION IN EXPENDITURES WITH AN ENDING WORKING CAPITAL BALANCE OF 3.8 MILLION. AND WITH THAT I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS? QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? NONE. GOOD DEAL. HAS THERE ANYONE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK? NO, SIR. EXCELLENT. THERE BEING NO ONE SPEAKING. WE'RE ON TO FOUR B. OH, WE GOTTA CLOSE IT. THERE BEING NO ONE ELSE'S THERE TO SPEAK. I CLOSE THIS MEETING AT 6:51 PM CONCERNING THE BAY BAYTOWN MUNICIPAL DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT'S FISCAL YEAR 2026. 2027. PROPOSED BUDGET TWO B [b. Consider approving the minutes of the City Council Work Session and City Council Municipal Development District meeting held on June 11, 2026.] BEFORE WE CONSIDER ITEM TWO B, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A CORRECTION TO THE AGENDA. THE REFERENCE TO THE CITY COUNCIL WORK SESSION WAS INCLUDED IN ERROR. THE ITEM SHOULD READ, CONSIDER APPROVING THE MINUTES OF THE JOINT CITY COUNCIL AND MUNICIPAL DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT MEETING HELD ON JULY 11TH, 2026. I NEED A MOTION. MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM TWO B. SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR, AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES. [a. Consider approving the minutes of the City Council Work Sessions and City Council Municipal Development District meetings held on June 11, 2026.] WE WILL NOW MOVE ON TO CITY COUNCIL. ITEMS THREE. A CONSIDER APPROVING THE MINUTES OF THE CITY COUNCIL WORK SESSION AND THE JOINT CITY COUNCIL AND MUNICIPAL DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT MEETINGS HELD ON JULY 11TH, 2026. I NEED A MOTION. MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM THREE. A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES [a. Conduct a public hearing regarding the proposed voluntary annexation of approximately 0.998 acres at 8220 North State Highway 146 (SH 146).] FIVE A. ANOTHER PUBLIC HEARING. WE'RE CONDUCTING THIS PUBLIC HEARING TODAY FOR THE PURPOSE OF GIVING ALL INTERESTED PUR PERSONS THE RIGHT TO EXPRESS THEIR VIEWS REGARDING THE SUBJECT OF THE PUBLIC HEARING. EVERYONE DESIRING TO BE A PART OF TODAY'S HEARING SHOULD HAVE EITHER SIGNED THE APPROPRIATE LIST OF THE FOYER OR EMAILED THE CITY CLERK PRIOR TO THE POSTED TIME OF THIS MEETING. EACH PARTICIPANT SHALL GIVE HIS OR [00:15:01] HER NAME AND ADDRESS IN ORDER TO PROVIDE PROPER RECORD OF THESE HEARINGS. THE RULES ALLOW EACH PERSON THREE MINUTES TO PRESENT INFORMATION. HOWEVER, I ENCOURAGE EVERYONE TO BE AS BRIEF AND TO THE POINT AS POSSIBLE. IF YOU'RE A GROUP OF PERSONS WISHING TO ADDRESS COUNSEL, PLEASE SELECT ONE PERSON TO BE THE SPOKEPERSON TO PRESENT THE INFORMATION. IF ANYONE HAS ANY QUESTIONS, PLEASE DIRECT THEM TO ME. CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING REGARDING THE PROPOSED VOLUNTARY ANNEXATION OF APPROXIMATELY 0.998 ACRES AT 8 2 2 0 NORTH STATE HIGHWAY 1 46. IT IS NOW 6:53 PM AND I CALL TO ORDER THE PUBLIC HEARING REGARDING THE PROPOSED VOLUNTARY ANNEXATION OF APPROXIMATELY 0.998 ACRES AT 8 2 2 0 NORTH STATE HIGHWAY 1 46. I'D LIKE NOW TO ASK STAFF TO SUMMARIZE THE REASON FOR THIS PUBLIC HEARING. UH, THANK YOU MAYOR AND COUNCIL FOR THE RECORD. MARTIN SCRIBNER PLANNING DEVELOPMENT SERVICES. UH, WE SAW THE, UH, APPLICATION FOR THIS, UH, LAST MONTH. UH, AGAIN, THIS IS FOR ANNEXATION OF JUST UNDER AN ACRE AT 82 20 NORTH STATE HIGHWAY 1 46. UH, YOU CAN SEE THAT ON YOUR MAP HERE. IT IS JUST SOUTH OF OLD NEEDLEPOINT ROAD ON THE EAST SIDE OF 1 46. UM, TONIGHT WE'RE JUST, THIS IS THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR THIS. UM, THERE WILL BE A REZONE THAT WILL HAPPEN, UH, TO GO ALONG WITH THIS. AS YOU KNOW, THIS COMES IN AS A DEFAULT ZONE DIS ZONING DISTRICT OF OPEN SPACE RECREATION. UM, YOU CAN SEE THE CITY MAP HERE. IT'S KIND OF A LITTLE, UH, GAP ALONG 1 46 ALONG THAT SIDE. EVERYTHING ELSE THAT'S IN THAT KIND OF LIGHT BLUE COLOR IS WITHIN THE CITY. ANYTHING WHITE IS OUTSIDE OF THE CITY. UM, AND THAT IS ILLUSTRATED HERE AS WELL. SO, UH, WHEN THEY DO COME IN WITH THE ZONING RECOMMENDATION OR ZONING, UH, REQUEST, UH, THEY'LL BE REQUESTING FOR GENERAL COMMERCIAL, UH, TO HAVE A, UH, SMALL AUTOMOTIVE, UM, SHOP. UM, THAT FUTURE LAND USE MAP DOES SHOW IT AS COMING IN AS COMMERCIAL. AND AGAIN, WE'LL KIND OF HIT THAT WITH A LOT MORE DETAIL WHEN WE COME BACK IN WITH THE REZONE REQUEST. UM, TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF THE TIMELINE HERE AGAIN, UH, LAST MONTH, WE, UM, AND THIS IS THE ONE THAT, UH, WAS MISMATCHED. UM, SO TONIGHT IS THE ACTUAL PUBLIC HEARING. UH, WE WILL DO FIRST READING, UH, PROBABLY IN SEPTEMBER. WE'LL DO, WE WILL HAVE THE, UH, PLANNING ZONING, COMMISSION HEARING, UH, IN AUGUST. AND, UM, THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION. I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS THERE BEING NO ONE ELSE DESIR ANYONE SIGN UP? NO, SIR. GOOD DEAL. THERE BEING NO ONE ELSE DESIRING TO SPEAK IN IN OUR CLOSE THIS PUBLIC HEARING AT 6:56 PM REGARDING THE VOLUNTARY PROPOSED ANNEXATION OF APPROXIMATELY 0.998 ACRES AT 8 2 2 0 NORTH STATE HIGHWAY 1 46 6, A PROPOSED LIMITED PURPOSE ANNEXATION OF APPROXIMATELY 356.99 ACRES, LOCATED GENERAL GENERALLY NORTH OF EASTVILLE ROAD, EAST OF GARTH ROAD, AND WEST OF HAYDEN ROAD. CONDUCT THE FIRST PUBLIC HEARING REGARDING THE FIRST AMENDMENT TO THE STRATEGIC PARTNERSHIP AGREEMENT RELATED TO A LIMITED PURPOSE ANNEXATION WITH HARRIS COUNTY MUNICIPAL UTILITY DISTRICT NUMBER 2 1 3 DASH A. IT IS NOW 6:56 PM AND I CALL TO ORDER THE FIRST PUBLIC HEARING REGARDING THE FIRST AMENDMENT TO THE STRATEGIC PARTNERSHIP AGREEMENT RELATED TO A LIMITED PURPOSE ANNEXATION WITH HARRIS COUNTY MUNICIPAL DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT NUMBER 2 1 3 DASH A. I WOULD LIKE NOW TO ASK STAFF TO SUMMARIZE THE SUBJECT OF THIS PUBLIC HEARING. MR. SCRIBNER IN THE CZAR HERSELF, . THERE SHE IS. THERE. SHE'S, THANK YOU MAYOR. COUNSEL. UM, I'M JUST GONNA KIND TEE THIS UP. THERE ARE FOUR ITEMS ON YOUR AGENDA. UM, THE FOUR ITEMS UNDER ITEM SIX THAT ALL REFER TO THE SAME PROPERTY. SO WE'RE GONNA KIND OF, UH, UH, I THINK PRESENT THESE ALL AT ONCE BECAUSE THEY'RE ALL SORT OF, THEY'RE ALL TIED. SO, UM, THAT SAID, UH, THIS IS REGARDING THE LIMITED, UH, THE LIMITED PURPOSE ANNEXATION. UH, AGAIN, 357 ACRES, UH, NORTH OF EAST OF VILLE ROAD, UM, EAST OF GARTH ROAD, WEST OF HADDEN ROAD. AND WITH THAT, I'M GONNA ASK, UM, KRISTEN TO GO AHEAD AND GIVE YOU THE, THE, UH, THE STRATEGIC PARTNERSHIP AGREEMENT, UM, ITEMS AND THEN I CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, UM, REGARDING THE ANNEXATION ITSELF. SURE. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. SO ITEM SIX A AND SIX B, EXCUSE ME, ARE RELATED TO THE, UH, FIRST AND SECOND PUBLIC HEARINGS, UH, WITH REGARD TO THE STRATEGIC PARTNERSHIP AGREEMENT. [00:20:01] AND SO, UM, THE CITY OF BAYTOWN AND HARRIS COUNTY MUNICIPAL DE DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT MU 2 1 3 A ENTERED INTO A STRATEGIC PARTNERSHIP AGREEMENT IN, UH, 2019. AND SO THAT, UH, STRATEGIC PARTNERSHIP AGREEMENT COVERED CERTAIN LAND THAT IS IN MU 2 1 3 A. SINCE THE TIME THAT THE, UH, STRATEGIC PARTNERSHIP WAS EXECUTED IN 2019, ADDITIONAL LAND HAS BEEN ADDED TO THE MUD. THIS, UM, PROPOSED AMENDMENT TO THE STRATEGIC PARTNERSHIP AGREEMENT WOULD JUST SIMPLY AMEND THE DEFINITION OF PROPERTY AS IT'S USED IN THE STRATEGIC PARTNERSHIP AGREEMENT TO INCLUDE ALL LAND THAT IS CURRENTLY IN THE MUD, BOTH NOW AND IN THE FUTURE. GOOD DEAL. ANYONE SIGN UP TO SPEAK? NO, SIR. OKAY. NO QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? DID WE OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING? YES. OKAY. YES, MA'AM. AT 6 56, I THINK. OKAY. UM, THERE BEING NO ONE DESIRING TO SPEAK, I NOW CLOSE THIS PUBLIC HEARING AT 6:59 PM REGARDING [a. Conduct the first public hearing regarding the First Amendment to the Strategic Partnership Agreement related to a limited purpose annexation with Harris County Municipal Utility District No. 213-A.] THE FIRST AMENDMENT TO THE STRATEGIC PARTNERSHIP AGREEMENT RELATED TO A LIMITED PURPOSE ANNEXATION WITH HARRIS COUNTY MUNICIPAL UTILITY DISTRICT NUMBER 2 1 3 DASH A [b. Conduct the second public hearing regarding the First Amendment to the Strategic Partnership Agreement related to a limited purpose annexation with Harris County Municipal Utility District No. 213-A.] SIX B, CONDUCT THE SECOND PUBLIC HEARING REGARDING THE FIRST AMENDMENT TO THE STRATEGIC PARTNERSHIP AGREEMENT RELATED TO A LIMITED PURPOSE ANNEXATION WITH THE HARRIS COUNTY MUNICIPAL UTILITY DISTRICT TWO NUMBER 2 1 3 DASH A. IT IS NOW 6:59 PM AND I CALL TO ORDER THE SECOND PUBLIC HEARING REGARDING THE FIRST AMENDMENT TO THE STRATEGIC PARTNERSHIP AGREEMENT RELATED TO A LIMITED PURPOSE ANNEXATION WITH HARRIS COUNTY MUNICIPAL UTILITY DISTRICT NUMBER TWO THREE DASH A I HAVE NOTHING ADDITIONAL TO ADD. THANK YOU. UH, MAYOR, EVERYTHING THAT I SAID IN THE FIRST PUBLIC HEARING APPLIES HERE IN THE SECOND. I DON'T KNOW IF I REMEMBER IT. UHOH. . IS THIS A TEST? . GOT YOU. UM, DO WE HAVE ANYONE SIGN UP TO SPEAK? NO, SIR. OKAY. THERE BEING NO ONE DESIRING TO SPEAK. I NOW CLOSE THE SECOND PUBLIC HEARING AT SEVEN. THESE ARE THE FASTEST PUBLIC HEARINGS EVER AT 7:00 PM REGARDING THE FIRST AMENDMENT TO THE STRATEGIC PARTNERSHIP AGREEMENT RELATED TO A LIMITED PURPOSE ANNEXATION WITH HARRIS COUNTY MUNICIPAL UTILITY DISTRICT NUMBER TWO THREE DASH A. [c. Consider an ordinance authorizing the First Amendment to the Strategic Partnership Agreement with Harris County Municipal Utility District 213-A.] [d. Consider an ordinance for the first reading of the proposed Limited Purpose Annexation of approximately 356.99 acres, located generally north of East Wallisville Road, east of Garth Road and west of Hadden Road. ] WE WILL NOW TAKE SIX C AND SIX D TOGETHER. CONSIDER AN ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING THE FIRST AMENDMENT TO THE STRATEGIC PARTNERSHIP AGREEMENT WITH HARRIS COUNTY MUNICIPAL UTILITY DISTRICT 2 1 3 DASH A AND CONSIDER AN ORDINANCE FOR THE FIRST READING OF THE PROPOSED LIMITED PUR PURPOSE ANNEXATION OF APPROXIMATELY 356.99 ACRES LOCATED GENERALLY NORTH OF EASTVILLE ROAD, EAST OF GARTH ROAD AND WEST OF HAYDEN ROAD. MR. SCRIBNER, ANYTHING ELSE? UM, O ONLY TO MAKE SURE THAT AS WE, WE KINDA SKIP THROUGH THIS, THAT IS THE AREA, UM, THAT WE'VE BEEN DISCUSSING IN THE, IN THE LAST, UH, TWO ITEMS. UM, AGAIN, THIS WAS ORIGINALLY, UH, ADDED TO THE MUD AND ADDED TO THE, UM, THE SPA BACK IN, UH, LATE NIGHT, UH, 2022. AND SO THIS IS JUST KIND OF MAKING SURE THAT ALL OF THE I'S ARE DOTTED AND THE T'S ARE CROSSED. GOOD DEAL. QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? NOTHING AT ALL. I NEED A MOTION. MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM SIX A, 30 0, 60 AND D SECOND 60. AND D THANK YOU. ALL IN FAVOR A. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES. THANK YOU. SEVEN A, RECEIVE THE [a. Receive the Baytown Crime Control and Prevention District Fiscal Year 2026-2027 Adopted Budget.] BAYTOWN CRIME CONTROL AND PREVENTION DISTRICT FISCAL YEAR 2026. 2027. ADOPTED BUDGET. MRS. MCKENZIE, UH, MAYOR MC, MAYOR COUNCIL, UH, BEFORE USED THE 27, UH, BUDGET FOR CCPD, OUR PROPOSED BUDGET, IT WAS APPROVED BY THE BOARD ON, UM, JULY 7TH. UM, THE REVENUE IS 2.8 MILLION EXPENDITURES 2.8, AND SO IT'S A BALANCED BUDGET AND IT WILL HAVE AN ENDING WORKING CAPITAL BALANCE OF 463,938. AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS. I THINK WE ALL LIKE HEARING THE WORD BALANCED. UH, WE'LL CONSIDER THIS BUDGET RECEIVED. THANK YOU. SEVEN B RECEIVED THE [b. Receive the Baytown Fire Control, Prevention, and Emergency Medical Services District Fiscal Year 2026-2027 Adopted Budget.] BAYTOWN FIRE CONTROL PREVENTION AND EMERGENCY MEDICAL SERVICES DISTRICT FISCAL YEAR 2026. 2027. PRODUCT ADOPTED BUDGET. MS. MCKENZIE. UM, THIS PROPOSED BUDGET FOR THE FIRE CONTROL IS, THE REVENUE IS 3.2 MILLION. EXPENDITURE IS 4.1. THIS IS NOT BALANCED. WE ARE SPENDING DOWN THE FUND BALANCE BY 992,000, LEAVING AN ENDING WORKING CAPITAL OF NINE HUNDRED THIRTY NINE THOUSAND NINE HUNDRED THIRTY NINE THOUSAND THREE HUNDRED TWENTY SEVEN. [00:25:02] AND IT WAS APPROVED BY THE BOARD ON JULY 7TH. QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? NOTHING AT ALL. GOOD DEAL. THANK YOU. WE, WE CONSIDER THAT RECEIVED [a. Consider an ordinance authorizing a Chapter 380 Economic Development Agreement between the City of Baytown, Texas Roadhouse of Baytown, TX LLC, and Strategic Restaurant Enterprises, Inc.] ONTO EIGHT. A PROPOSED ORDINANCES CONSIDERING ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING THE CHAPTER THREE 80 ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY OF BAYTOWN, TEXAS, ROADHOUSE OF BAYTOWN, TEXAS, LLC AND STRATEGIC RESTAURANT ENTERPRISES, INC. MR. BRIAN MORAN? YES. YES. MR. MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS, UH, BRIAN MORAN WITH ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND I'LL BE PRESENTING THE ITEM ON THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AMONG THE CITY OF BAYTOWN, UH, ROADHOUSE OF BAYTOWN AND THEN STRATEGIC RESTAURANT ENTERPRISES. SO THIS IS A PERFORMANCE BASED AGREEMENT, UM, THAT SECURES TWO RESTAURANTS FOR OUR COMMUNITY UNDER THE TERMS OF THE AGREEMENT. UM, THE COMPANIES HAVE TO CONSTRUCT, UH, TWO RESTAURANTS THAT'LL BE SIDE BY SIDE AND 8,700 SQUARE FOOT, UH, TEXAS ROADHOUSE AND A 6,600 SQUARE FOOT BUBBAS 33. UM, BEFORE I DIVE INTO ANY FURTHER DETAILS, I DO WANT TO NOTE THAT WE HAVE, UM, ALEX SCOTT AND AARON HAMILTON HERE WHO ARE REPRESENTING, UH, TEXAS ROADHOUSE AND BUBS 33, ALONG WITH AUSTIN ARNOLD, WHO'S FROM RLLC, THAT'S BEEN SERVING AS THEIR CONSULTANT ON THIS PROJECT. UM, TO QUALIFY FOR ANY INCENTIVES, UM, THE COMPANY DOES HAVE TO MEET THREE, UH, MAJOR PERFORMANCE MILESTONES. AND SO THE FIRST IS A PROVIDING A MINIMUM CAPITAL INVESTMENT OF $10 MILLION DIRECTLY INTO THE REAL, UH, PROPERTY, EQUIPMENT AND BUILDINGS. SECOND, THEY HAVE TO CREATE AND MAINTAIN, UM, A TOTAL WORKFORCE OF 160 EMPLOYEES, WHICH IS APPROXIMATELY, UM, 80 FULL-TIME EQUIVALENT POSITIONS. AND THEN THIRD, THEY DO HAVE A STRICT TIMELINE THAT THEY HAVE TO ABIDE BY, WHICH IS THEY DO HAVE TO BEGIN CONSTRUCTION ON THE PROJECT BY DECEMBER 31ST OF THIS YEAR WITH BOTH RESTAURANTS OPENING AND THEN COMMENCING OPERATIONS BY THE END, OR DECEMBER 31ST, 2027. SO, UM, TO SUPPORT THIS $10 MILLION INVESTMENT AND THE JOB CREATION, UM, THE CITY'S LOOKING TO PROVIDE A POST PERFORMANCE, UH, SALES TAX REBATE, WHICH IS EQUAL TO 50% OF THE CITY'S COLLECTED SALES TAX SOLELY GENERATED FROM TEXAS ROADHOUSES OPERATIONS. AND SO WE DO HAVE SOME FISCAL GUARDRAILS THAT ARE IN PLACE WITHIN THE AGREEMENT. WE DO HAVE A HARD CAP WHERE THE REBATE CANNOT EXCEED $300,000. THERE IS A 10 YEAR TERM LIMIT, UM, WHERE YOU HAVE TO EITHER, WHERE EITHER ROADHOUSE HAS TO MEET 300,000 OR 10 YEARS HAS LAPSED. AND THEN LAST, THERE IS NO UPFRONT CITY CASH, UM, FOR THIS OR ANY CASH EXPENDITURES. EVERY DOLLAR THAT'S DISPERSED OR REBATED, UM, BACK TO THE COMPANY IS STRICTLY PAID OUT OF THE ACTUAL SALES THAT ARE COLLECTED AND IS VERIFIED THROUGH AN ANNUAL COMPLIANCE REPORT AS WELL AS REPORTS THROUGH THE COMPTROLLER'S OFFICE. AND THEN I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER, UM, ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE REGARDING THE SPECIFICS OF THE AGREEMENT. AND AS I MENTIONED, WE DO HAVE THE TEAM FROM ROADHOUSE THAT IS HERE, THAT IS AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE ABOUT THEIR OPERATIONS OR THEIR PROJECT. DALE, ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? NONE. OKAY. YOU GO FIRST. YOU'RE THE YOUNGEST. YEAH. LET'S LET THE YOUNGEST GUY GO FIRST. YOUNGEST GUY UP HERE DO THAT. OKAY. THE ROOKIE. ALRIGHT. ALRIGHT. JAY'S SMILING AT ME 'CAUSE HE AND I ALREADY KNOWS, HE AND I HAVE ALREADY HAD THIS CONVERSATION. WHILE I AM TICKLED AND PLEASED THAT THAT ROAD ROADHOUSE IS INVESTING IN INCREASING ITS SIZE, UH, IN THE CITY, BAYTOWN, IT'S PART OF THE FIDELIS MARKETPLACE. AND WE STRESSED AT THE VERY BEGINNING WHEN WE WERE TALKING TO FIDELIS 10 YEARS AGO, EIGHT YEARS AGO, WHATEVER, IT'S, I'M, I'M, I'M TOO YOUNG TO REMEMBER , WE SAID ANY MIGRATION WOULD NOT RECEIVE BENEFITS THAT WOULDN'T, WOULDN'T RECEIVE TAX INCENTIVES. NOTHING. SO TO ME, THE ISSUE OF, WELL, IT'S PART OF THE FIDELIS, BUT IT'S NOT FIDELIS AND IT'S JUST TEXAS ROADHOUSE, SO NOW WE'RE GONNA GIVE THEM ABATEMENTS. WE SAID WE WEREN'T GONNA DO THAT. 'CAUSE WHAT WOULD BE THE DIFFERENCE OF ROSS, WHO'S ALSO MIGRATING, CAME BACK AND SAID, WELL, I'M, I'M NOT GONNA GET THE BENEFITS FROM FIDEL AND I WANT, SO AGAIN, I'M PLEASED TO SEE THE EXPANSION. I'M PLEASED TO SEE THE, THE COMMITMENT TO THE CITY. WE, MY WIFE AND I EAT THERE PRETTY, PRETTY REGULARLY. IT'S GOOD FOOD, BUT I'M JUST GONNA STICK TO OUR GUNS THAT ARE MY GUNS THAT WE SAID WE WEREN'T GONNA ALLOW MIGRATION. AND IF, IF A BUSINESS MIGRATED, WE WEREN'T GONNA GIVE INCENTIVES. [00:30:01] AND HERE WE ARE, WE'RE WE'RE GIVING THEM INCENTIVES. AND AGAIN, I UNDERSTAND THEY'RE BRINGING ANOTHER RESTAURANT, BUT THEY'RE GONNA MAKE MONEY. THEY'RE GONNA MAKE MONEY BY THE TRUCKLOAD. 'CAUSE PEOPLE ARE DYING FOR NICER, LARGER RESTAURANTS. THEY'RE DYING FOR, FOR, YOU KNOW, DIFFERENT VENUES AND OPPORTUNITIES. SO UNFORTUNATELY I'LL BE VOTING NAY ON THIS ONE AND I'M PROBABLY GONNA, IT'S GONNA BE A SIX TO ONE AND THAT'S FINE WITH ME. BUT IT'S, WE'VE GOTTA START HOLDING OUR GROUND WHEN WE SAY WE'RE NOT GONNA DO SOMETHING THAT WE DON'T DO IT. AND WHEN WE SAY WE'RE GOING TO DO SOMETHING, THEN WE DO IT. AND THAT'S WHAT WE PROMISED THE CITIZENS. AND THAT'S WHERE I'LL STAND TONIGHT. YES MA'AM. I GOT YOU. THANK YOU MR. LESTER. UM, JUST A QUICK QUESTION. SO THE ABATEMENTS THAT WE SAID WE WERE NOT GOING TO DO THAT WAS TO FIDELIS, RIGHT? WAS THAT TO FIDELIS? SO THAT WOULDN'T REALLY COUNT HERE BECAUSE THIS IS THE STORE ITSELF THAT'S MOVING. UM, THEY'RE MAKING IT BIGGER. THEY'RE ADDING MORE PERSONNEL. UM, IF IT WAS FIDELIS MOVING THEM AND SAYING, HEY, WE'RE GONNA GIVE YOU THIS BIGGER, BETTER THAN WE WOULD NOT EVEN BE DOING, UH, ABATEMENTS. AM I CORRECT IN THAT? SO THIS IS DIFFERENT. YOU'RE CORRECT. IN STATEMENT. DIFFERENT, THE SAME . OKAY. I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU MR. FRANCO. YEAH. UM, BUT THEY'RE MOVING TO FIDELIS PROPERTY. SO FI BASICALLY BUBBA'S 33 IS ELIGIBLE FOR THE ABATEMENTS FROM FIDELIS, BUT ROADHOUSE IS NOT. SO THIS IS WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE. AND YOU'RE MOVING IT 500 FEET TO HAVE A STORE THAT LOOKS JUST LIKE THE ONE YOU'RE GONNA BE BUILDING. YOU'RE GONNA HAVE AN EMPTY BUILDING. WE ALREADY SEEN THAT IN DISTRICT FOUR. I'VE ALREADY, I'VE ALREADY SAID THIS BEFORE AND I'LL SAY IT AGAIN. FIDELIS IS NOT DOING WHAT WE WANTED. THE CITIZENS DO NOT WANT, WANTED. THEY'RE BRINGING THE SAME BARGAIN BASEMENT STORES. THEY'RE BRINGING THE SAME STORES WE HAVE HERE. WE KNOW WHAT THEY ARE. I'M NOT, THIS IS NOT WHAT OUR CITIZENS ASK FOR. THIS IS NOT WHAT OUR CITIZENS WANT. WE LOOK, TRUST ME, MY FAMILY'S FROM CORPUS. THERE'S A MALL RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM A MALL. THAT'S DUMB. THIS IS, I MEAN, WE'RE GONNA HAVE A, A ROADHOUSE WITH A ROADHOUSE EMPTY BUILDING IN FRONT OF IT. I MEAN, WHOEVER DECIDES IF THEY EVER DECIDE TO, TO BUY THAT BUILDING OR SOMEBODY LEASES THE BUILDING, THEY GOTTA REDO THE WHOLE BUILDING. 'CAUSE IT LOOKS LIKE A ROADHOUSE. IT'S JUST COMMERCE. I, I GET IT. AND THIS IS, AND THIS IS, WE SAID WE WERE NOT GONNA GIVE AGREEMENTS FOR PEOPLE TO MOVE ON THIS THING. AND WE'RE GIVEN AN AGREEMENT. I AGREE WITH WHAT YOU, WHY ISN'T, WHY ISN'T BURLINGTON AND ROSS ASKING FOR ONE? THEY'RE MOVING, THEY'RE GOING INTO FIDEL'S PROPERTY. I MEAN, IT'S NO DIFFERENT. THIS IS GOING INTO FIDEL'S PROPERTY. FIDELIS IS NOT PUTTING UP THE SEED MONEY TO GET THE PEOPLE THAT WE WANTED HERE. THEY'RE BEING CHEAP WITH WHAT WE'RE GIVING THEM. WE GAVE THEM TAX ABATEMENTS TO BRING STORES. WE GAVE 'EM AGREEMENTS AND THEY'RE BEING CHEAP. IT IS WHAT IT'S, THAT'S JUST, IT'S, IT'S THE HONEST TRUTH. SO, AND I APPRECIATE ROADHOUSES IN THEIR, IN THEIR FACILITY. THAT'S GREAT BUSINESS. I I I WOULD DO THE SAME IF I WAS IN Y'ALL'S POSITION. AND I I, I GET IT. AND I'M GLAD YOU'RE BRINGING BUBBA'S 33 AND I'M GLAD YOU'RE EXPANDING ROADHOUSE. BUT THIS IS MORE OF A STATEMENT OF FIDELIS. IT'S A NO FOR ME. WHAT I WOULD LIKE SOME CLARIFICATION AFTER, UH, COUNCILMAN FRANCO, YOU SAID THAT THEY'RE MOVING THE EXACT SAME THING 500 FEET AWAY, BUT THEN SAID IT WAS BEING EXPANDED, IT IS BEING MADE LARGER. CORRECT. YOU SAID 87,000 SQUARE FEET FOR THE NEW ROADHOUSE. 8,787. OH, 8,700. OKAY. OKAY. AND THEN 8,700 . AND DO WE KNOW WHAT THE, THE ONE BEFORE THAT IS? I, I, I THINK, UH, WE DO HAVE, UH, ROADHOUSE FOLKS ON. YEAH, LET'S BRING 'EM UP. WHO ARE THEY? HI, UH, ALEX WESTCOTT HERE FROM THE ROADHOUSE TEAM. CAN YOU GUYS HEAR HEAR ME ALRIGHT? YES, YES, YES, YES. OH, UH, FIRST OFF, OKAY. I APPRECIATE, UH, APPRECIATE Y'ALL, UH, TIME TONIGHT AND, AND GIVING US THIS OPPORTUNITY. UM, YOU KNOW, WE, UH, THE EXISTING ROADHOUSE THERE TYPICALLY WOULD BE ABOUT CLOSER TO 7,000 SQUARE FEET. UH, WOULD NEED TO CHECK ON THE EXACT SIZE OF THIS ONE, BUT IT WILL BE SUBSTANTIALLY BIGGER. UM, BUT JUST KIND OF WANT TO TOUCH ON THAT WITH, WITH FIDELIS. AND, AND WE, UH, OUR PARKING AT OUR EXISTING LOCATION WAS, UH, LIMITED QUITE A LOT BY THE FIDELIS INVESTMENT. AND THAT, UH, IS KIND OF THE, THE MAIN REASON, YOU KNOW, FROM, FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE, WE DID NOT NECESSARILY CONS. WE'RE NOT PROBABLY GOING TO MOVE IT UNTIL WE KIND OF SAW THE PARKING SITUATION. AND IT KIND OF FORCED, YOU KNOW, US TO, TO HAVE TO DO THAT. AND, AND WE'RE HAPPY TO DO IT. IT'S BIGGER BUILDING. IT WILL BE A, A GOOD INVESTMENT FOR US. BUT, UH, YOU KNOW, IT WAS KIND OF, UH, A FORCE, NOT, NOT FORCE, BUT, BUT WE, WE HAD, UH, VERY LITTLE CHOICE. I'M SURE YOU GUYS PROBABLY, IF YOU DID GO DEALT WITH THAT PARKING ISSUE [00:35:01] WHEN, WHEN FIDEL STARTED PUTTING THE FENCES UP. AND, AND SO IT WAS A PRETTY TOUGH SITUATION FOR US. SO, UM, DIDN'T REALLY WANT TO HAVE ANOTHER VACANT BUILDING. OUR LEASE IN THAT BUILDING DOES EXPIRE IN 2027, UM, AT THE EXISTING LOCATION FOR JUST, SO, SO I WOULD ASSUME THAT, UH, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE EXISTING LANDLORD WILL DO THERE, BUT, UM, SO JUST KIND OF WANTED TO TOUCH ON THAT. YES, SIR. SO, KIND OF FROM WHAT I REMEMBER WHEN THE ROADHOUSE FIRST CAME IN, IT'S, IT'S ALREADY BEEN EXPANDED ONCE. SO THEY COULD HAVE EXPANDED AGAIN, ANOTHER TO 8,700 SQUARE FOOT. AND I GET THE PARKING ISSUE ONCE FIDEL'S DONE, THERE'LL BE PLENTY OF PARKING FOR PEOPLE TO WALK AROUND. WHEN I, WHEN YOU GO TO SHOPPING CENTERS, YOU WALK EVERYWHERE. SO, I MEAN, I GET IT, BUT FOR ME, AGAIN, IT'S MOVING TO FIDEL'S PROPERTY. FIDELIS SHOULD GIVE 'EM THE INCENTIVE, NOT US. ANYONE ELSE? YEAH, I'LL JUST JUMP IN THERE. MAYOR. UM, I MEAN, I UNDERSTAND Y'ALL'S FRUSTRATION WITH IT. UM, TO ME THIS, IT'S A LITTLE DIFFERENT BECAUSE IT'S, WE'RE GETTING A, A PACKAGE OF TWO RESTAURANTS. UM, I DON'T THINK THIS IS OUT OF LINE WITH AGREEMENTS WE'VE, UH, APPROVED RECENTLY WITH OTHER RESTAURANTS. UM, WE HAD THE, THE ONE GOING INTO THE OLD RED LOBSTER. I DON'T RECALL WHAT, WHAT THAT ONE WAS. AND WE DID THE, UH, MARICO'S, UM, WE DID THE, UM, TI JUANITA'S OUT ON HIGHWAY 1 46. UH, AND SO THAT, THAT WAS ONE OF MY QUESTIONS WHEN WE WERE DISCUSSING THIS IS KIND OF HOW IS IT, HOW DOES IT ALIGN WITH WHAT WE'VE DONE WITH OTHER RESTAURANTS? UM, AND IT, IT'S VERY SIMILAR STRUCTURE. UM, AND SO I THINK, YOU KNOW, WE'RE STAYING CONSISTENT WITH THE, WITH THE ATTRACTING NEW RESTAURANTS. UM, AND SO I, I DON'T HAVE ANY ISSUES WITH THIS. OKAY. ANYONE ELSE? ALRIGHT, LET'S VOTE ON IT. I NEED A MOTION. MOTION. NO, APPROVE. SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? NAY. MOTION CARRIES. THANK YOU MR. MORAN. [b. Consider an ordinance regarding proposed text amendments to the Unified Land Development Code (ULDC) to change Section 2.31 Consolidated Use Table; to change Section 2.33 Use Specific Standards; and to change Article 10 Word Usage regarding short-term rentals.] ON TO EIGHT B, CONSIDER AN ORDINANCE REGARDING PROPOSED TEXT, AMEN TO THE UNIFIED LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE OR ULDC TO CHANGE SECTION 2.31, CONSOLIDATED USE TABLE TO CHANGE SECTION 2.33, USE SPECIFIC STANDARDS AND TO CHANGE ARTICLE 10 WORD USAGE REGARDING SHORT TERM RENTALS. MR. SCRIBNER. THANK YOU, MAYOR. UM, THIS, WE'VE, WE'VE, WE'VE SEEN THIS BEFORE. SO, UM, YOU, YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH THE SITUATION WITH THE ISSUES. UM, REAL QUICK BACKGROUND. REMEMBER THE OLD ULDC WAS SILENT ON, UH, SHORT-TERM RENTALS. DOESN'T MEAN WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY. IT MEANT THAT THE, THE CODE JUST DIDN'T ADDRESS IT. UH, IN 2025, THE NEW ULDC DID ALLOW SHORT-TERM RENTALS, BUT IT INCLUDED THAT SPECIAL USE PERMIT. UM, BACK IN NOVEMBER, DECEMBER OF LAST YEAR, WE DID HAVE ONE SPECIAL USE PERMIT APPLICATION. AND THAT WAS BECAUSE WE HAD A COMPLAINT AND CODE ENFORCEMENT FOLLOWED UP ON IT, UM, WHICH WAS APPROVED. UM, THEN WE, WE ALL KIND OF SAW HOW THAT PROCESS WENT. IT WASN'T THE MOST EFFICIENT USE OF YOUR TIME OR OUR TIME OR, OR THE APPLICANT'S TIME. UM, BUT IT WAS APPROVED, UH, STAFF WAS AT THAT TIME, BACK IN DECEMBER, DIRECTED TO GO AHEAD AND TAKE A WHACK AT MAKING THE REGULATIONS MORE STRINGENT. SO, UM, STAFF HAS DONE THAT. UM, AND THAT HAS COME FROM A LOT OF CONVERSATIONS WITH NEIGHBORING, UH, COMMUNITIES. WE'VE ACTUALLY, UH, USED AND BORROWED A LOT OF THE LANGUAGE FROM THE NEIGHBORING COM COMMUNITIES REGULATIONS. UH, BACK IN MARCH, PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION, UH, HEARD THIS ITEM, UH, AND THE PROPOSED REGULATIONS, AND THEY ACTUALLY REME RECOMMENDED DENIAL TO THIS BODY BECAUSE THEY FELT THAT WE AS A CITY WERE OVERREACHING THAT THIS WAS TOO MUCH. UM, AND THAT STILL INCLUDED REMOVING THE SUP AND ALL THE OTHER ITEMS THAT, THAT THIS BODY SAW, UM, BACK IN, UH, IN MAY. AND SO, UH, IN APRIL, WE CAME TO YOU WITH A PROPOSED, UH, A CHANGE TO THE CODE, UH, IN, AND THE ANSWER WAS, I THINK WE WANT SOME CHANGES TO THIS. SO WE WENT, WE CAME BACK IN MAY WITH A WORK SESSION AND MORE DIRECTION TO STAFF. SO NOW WE'RE BACK WITH, UM, WHAT IS IN JUST ONE SLIDE. IT INCLUDES THE, THE REMOVAL OF THE, UH, SPECIAL USE PERMIT AGAIN, BECAUSE WE FELT THAT, THAT THAT DIDN'T WORK VERY WELL. UM, THERE IS AN ANNUAL PERMIT REQUIRED. THERE WILL BE A FEE REQUIRED, AN ANNUAL INSPECTION WILL BE REQUIRED. THERE WILL BE A MINIMUM FOR OFF STREET PARKING. THERE WILL BE A MAXIMUM NUMBER OF OCCUPANTS ALLOWED IN ANY ONE OF THESE, UM, RENTALS. AND THEN CERTAIN INFORMATION [00:40:01] HAS TO BE POSTED, INCLUDING THE PERMIT ITSELF, A LOCAL CONTACT, AND THE, THE RULES OF THE PROPERTY. NOW, THAT LAST ONE, A LOT OF TIMES THE COMPANIES THAT KIND OF RUN THESE, IF IT'S, IF IT'S THE BIG ONES, IF IT'S AIRBNB OR VRBO, THOSE REQUIRE THAT SORT OF THING ANYWAY. BUT REMEMBER TOO, THERE'S PROBABLY LITERALLY 10,000 OTHER COMPANIES OR OTHER, UH, WAYS TO GET THESE, UH, TYPES OF SHORT TERM RENTALS OUT THERE. SO WE'RE TRYING TO ACCOUNT FOR ALL OF THEM, NOT JUST THE ONES THAT ARE UNDER THE BIG NAMES THAT EVERYBODY KNOWS. SO WHAT I WANT TO DO IS TALK, THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF TALK ABOUT KIND OF WHAT DOES, WHAT DO THESE, UM, PROPOSED REGULATIONS MEAN? SO I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE MISCONCEPTIONS THAT I, THAT WE'VE BEEN HEARING AS STAFF, UM, REGARDING THE PROPOSED REGULATIONS. UM, FIRST OFF, THERE'S BEEN SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT ELIMINATING THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT AND THAT THAT WILL MAKE IT EASIER FOR, UH, ANYBODY TO ESTABLISH A SHORT TERM RENTAL IN BAYTOWN. ALONG WITH THE ELIMINATION OF THE SHORT TERM, OR EXCUSE ME, THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT. WE HAVE PROPOSED MAKING THE REGULATIONS THEMSELVES MORE STRINGENT. SO THE EXISTING REGULATIONS, AND REMEMBER, I'M GONNA POINT THIS OUT A COUPLE OF TIMES. IF THESE REGULATIONS, IF THE PROPOSED REGULATIONS DO NOT GET ADOPTED, WE STILL HAVE REGULATIONS IN PLACE. BUT THOSE REGULATIONS THEMSELVES, THE STANDARDS THEMSELVES ARE NOT AS, AS STRINGENT AS THE ONES THAT WE ARE PROPOSING. HOWEVER, IT WOULD STILL INCLUDE THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT. UH, ONE OF THE REASONS THAT REMOVING THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT MAKES SENSE IS THAT THAT DECISION MAKING PROCESS REALLY IS PRETTY UNSUITABLE FOR THIS TYPE OF APPLICATION. AND IT TOOK A TEST RUN TO FIGURE THAT OUT. BUT HOPEFULLY EVERYBODY REMEMBERS HOW NOT ONLY WAS, UM, P AND Z IN A, IN A TOUGH SPOT, BUT YOU AS A DECISION MAKING BODY WERE REALLY PUT IN A TOUGH SPOT. THERE WAS NO WAY TO, TO MAKE EVERYBODY HAPPY WITH, WITH THE DECISION THAT CAME OUT OF THAT. UM, THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT PROCESS IS WE BELIEVE RIGHT NOW DETERRING APPLICANTS FROM COMING IN AND APPLYING FOR THAT FOR ANY KIND OF, OF, UM, SHORT TERM RENTAL TYPE OF, OF APPROVAL. NOW, THAT SOUNDS LIKE A GOOD THING IF PEOPLE DON'T WANT THOSE IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS. HOWEVER, JUST BECAUSE THEY DON'T COME IN AND APPLY FOR THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT DOESN'T MEAN THEY'RE NOT STILL THERE. UM, THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT PROCESS IS A VERY TIME INTENSIVE ONE. IT'S A VERY BURDENSOME ONE FOR, FOR STAFF AND FOR THIS BODY AS WELL. AGAIN, WE KNOW THAT THERE ARE PROBABLY A HUNDRED PLUS OF THESE ALREADY OUT THERE IN THE, IN THE COMMUNITY. THAT SPECIAL USE PERMIT DOING WHAT WE DID BACK IN NOVEMBER, DECEMBER A HUNDRED TIMES IS GOING TO GET VERY WORRISOME ON I THINK EVERYBODY INVOLVED AND, AND LIKELY ISN'T GOING TO HAVE THE EFFECT THAT WE HAD HOPED IN THE ORIGINALLY. UM, WE DO BELIEVE THAT REQUIRING A PERMIT INSTEAD WILL ENSURE THAT ENFORCEMENT, RIGHT, WHEN THEY COME IN AND, AND START OUT, IT'S GONNA PROVIDE THAT CONTACT INFORMATION. SO WHEN WE HAVE A CODE ENFORCEMENT ISSUE, WE KNOW WHO TO GET AHOLD OF AND IT'LL ALSO ALLOW THE CITY TO COLLECT THE, THE, UM, THE HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAX REVENUES. UM, THE, THE SECOND ITEM THAT THERE'S A MISCONCEPTION IS THAT WE CAN PROHIBIT SHORT-TERM RENTALS IN BAYTOWN. UH, I, I THINK I'M SAYING THIS MORE FOR THE PUBLIC 'CAUSE I THINK, UM, THE, THE COUNCIL HAS ALREADY KIND OF HAD GOTTEN SOME OF THIS INFORMATION, BUT LEASING PROPERTY IS A FUNDAMENTAL RIGHT IN TEXAS. AND, UM, LEGAL HAS ADVISED THAT PROHIBITING THIS TYPE OF USE ACROSS THE CITY WOULD PROBABLY BE UNCONSTITUTIONAL. UM, THERE OTHER STATES HAVE ALSO REGULATED THESE TYPES OF USES AT A STATE LEVEL. WE BELIEVE THAT HAS BEEN DISCUSSED BY THE STATE OF TEXAS IN THE PAST. WE BELIEVE THAT THAT WILL COME BACK AGAIN IN THE FUTURE. WE DON'T KNOW THAT ANYTHING WILL HAPPEN. BUT AGAIN, THERE IS A TREND THAT SAYS, UM, MOST OF THESE ARE BEING REGULATED AT STATE LEVEL. UM, THERE HAS BEEN A MISCONCEPTION REGARDING CITY STAFF ENCOURAGING SHORT-TERM RENTALS IN BAYTOWN. UM, THESE SHORT-TERM RENTALS HAVE EXISTED IN BAYTOWN FOR YEARS. THIS IS PART OF OUR COMMUNITY. IT IS PART OF THE MARKET THAT IS OUT THERE. UM, LIKELY MANY OF YOU HAVE USED SHORT TERM RENTALS IN OTHER CITIES. UM, THESE REGULATIONS THEMSELVES WOULD ACTUALLY IMPROVE OVERSIGHT AND MANAGEMENT. I DON'T KNOW THAT IT WOULD ENCOURAGE MORE OF THEM, BUT IT WOULD HELP US TO MANAGE THE ONES THAT ARE THERE NOW. UH, ANOTHER MISCONCEPTION IS, AND, AND THIS IS MAYBE NOT A MISCONCEPTION, UM, AS MUCH AS IT IS THERE IS SOME, THERE ARE SOME REAL IMPACTS TO DOING SOMETHING LIKE THIS, THAT WE COULD RESTRICT SHORT-TERM RENTALS TO NON-RESIDENTIAL AREAS ONLY, THAT WOULD EFFECTIVELY PROHIBIT SHORT-TERM RE UM, RES SHORT-TERM RENTALS ACROSS THE CITY. BECAUSE ALL OF THE CURRENT [00:45:01] EXISTING SHORT-TERM RENTALS THAT WE KNOW OF ARE ALL IN RESIDENTIAL AREAS. THE ENFORCEMENT OF THAT WOULD BE COSTLY AND DEFINITELY WOULD CAUSE SOME, SOME, SOME PRETTY BIG PROBLEMS FOR THE CITY. UM, NOT THAT IT CAN'T BE DONE, UM, BUT ORIGINALLY AS WE STARTED TO TALK THROUGH THIS, UH, AMENDMENT, AS WE SAID, OKAY, THERE'S GONNA BE PERMITS, WE'RE GOING TO PAY A THIRD PARTY TO, UH, TO ADMINISTER THE PERMITS, TO ADMINISTER THE ENFORCEMENT UP TO A CERTAIN POINT THAT CODE ENFORCEMENT AND THAT SERVICE WAS GOING TO BE COVERED BY THE FEES THAT WERE SUBMITTED FOR THE PERMITS THEMSELVES. IF WE DON'T HAVE ANYBODY IN THE AREAS WHERE WE ARE REQUIRING THE PERMITS, WE WILL NOT RECEIVE ANY REVENUES FROM PERMITS. I HOPE THAT MADE, MADE SENSE. UM, IF, IF ANY, BECAUSE THERE JUST WON'T BE ANY PERMITS TO ISSUE AT THAT POINT. SO NO FEES, UM, THIS IS GOING TO RESULT IN MORE COST IN MORE STAFF TIME, UH, POSSIBLY A REQUEST OF MORE OF ADDITIONAL FULL-TIME EMPLOYEES, UH, TO COVER THIS TYPE OF, OF EFFORT TO ENFORCE. UM, AND THEN ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE CAN'T MISS OUT ON, UH, SPEAKING ABOUT IS, IS THE ADDITIONAL BURDEN THAT THIS CAUSES DOWNSTREAM. YES, WE HAVE AN ENFORCEMENT STAFF AND WE WILL DO WHAT WE CAN TO MAKE SURE THAT, THAT, THAT THIS IS HANDLED, BUT THAT ALSO CREATES AN ADDITIONAL BURDEN ON OUR LEGAL STAFF AND ON OUR CITY COURT BECAUSE WHEN YOU GET TO A POINT WHERE YOU'RE ISSUING CITATIONS FOR A USE, THAT'S NOT ALLOWED, THAT HAS TO GO THROUGH SEVERAL DIFFERENT STEPS. I KNOW WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THAT BEFORE, BUT IT, IT CREATES A, A REALLY LARGE BURDEN ON THE CITY COURT ESPECIALLY. UM, KEEP IN MIND THAT ANY KIND OF ENFORCEMENT THAT COULD START TOMORROW IS GOING TO BE A PROLONGED EFFORT. IT IS GOING TO TAKE QUITE A WHILE TO SEE ANY RESULTS AT ALL. UM, ISSUING LETTERS AND ISSUING CITATIONS, IT'S MUCH LIKE WE WERE TALKING, TALKING ABOUT THE APARTMENT, UH, ISSUES EARLIER. UM, THAT IS A TIME CONSUMING AND VERY, UM, UH, IT JUST, IT, IT JUST TAKES A WHILE TO, TO MAKE AN EFFECT WITH THOSE EFFORTS. SO TONIGHT, AGAIN, YOU HAVE THE, UH, THE, THE PROPOSAL IN FRONT OF YOU, THAT WAS WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT BACK IN MAY OR APRIL. AND THEN IT INCLUDES THE CHANGES THAT WE DISCUSSED AT THE WORK SESSION IN MAY. SO, UM, I'M HAPPY TO ASK ANY ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE SPECIFICS OF THOSE. OBVIOUSLY I KINDA LEFT THAT OUT, BUT IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS, I CAN ANSWER THOSE. UM, SO WHAT ARE YOUR OPTIONS TONIGHT? UM, THERE'S BASICALLY THREE OPTIONS. YOU CAN ADOPT THE PROPOSED REGULATIONS AS THEY'RE WRITTEN. IF YOU BELIEVE, UH, THAT THESE ARE WHAT ARE, ARE WHAT YOU WANTED AND WHAT'S BEST FOR THE COMMUNITY, YOU CAN DENY THOSE PROPOSED REGULATIONS. REMEMBER, THAT WOULD KEEP THE EXISTING RE REGULATIONS IN PLACE THAT WOULDN'T JUST TAKE 'EM ALL OUT. THAT WOULD KEEP THE EXISTING SUP AND IT WOULD KEEP THE EXISTING REGULATIONS, WHICH THERE'S NOT A LOT OF MEAT TO THOSE OTHER THAN DO THE SUP. UM, YOU COULD ALSO MAKE REC YOU COULD MAKE AMENDMENTS TO THE PROPOSED REGULATIONS. AND I LISTED OUT A FEW THAT I THOUGHT WERE THINGS THAT, THAT YOU MIGHT LOOK AT. UM, YOU COULD MAKE THE STANDARDS THEMSELVES MORE RESTRICTIVE OR LESS RESTRICTIVE, DEPENDING HOW YOU FEEL ABOUT THEM. YOU COULD RESTRICT THESE TWO CERTAIN ZONING DISTRICTS. KEEPING IN MIND THAT THERE ARE REAL IMPACTS TO A DECISION LIKE THAT. UH, YOU COULD AMEND THE PERMIT DURATION, MAKE 'EM SHORTER OR LONGER. UH, YOU COULD AMEND THE INSPECTION REQUIREMENTS OR EVEN THE TIMING OF THOSE INSPECTIONS. AND YOU COULD ALSO AMEND THE REVOCATION AND SU SUSPENSION STANDARDS THAT ARE LISTED IN THE NEW REGULATIONS. UM, THERE'S PROBABLY A DOZEN OTHER THINGS THAT YOU COULD CHANGE OR, OR ALTER FROM THAT PROPOSAL, BUT THESE ARE THE MAIN ONES THAT I THINK THAT, UM, STAFF EITHER THOUGHT OF OR WE HEARD KIND OF FROM THE PUBLIC OR ONLINE OR, OR FROM OUR CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS. UM, WITH THAT, I BELIEVE THAT'S MY LAST SLIDE. THAT IS MY LAST SLIDE. SO I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. UH, AND, UM, YES SIR. SO I, I KNOW YOU SAID THAT, YOU KNOW, IF YOU GO TO LIKE A BANNING OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, THAT THAT WOULD BE MORE COSTLY 'CAUSE OF AN ENFORCEMENT AND EVERYTHING LIKE THAT, RIGHT? UH, YOU PLAN INTO ENFORCE THE REGULATIONS, WOULDN'T THAT CAUSE PROBLEMS? BECAUSE IF SOMEONE IS NOT DOING WHAT THE REGULATIONS THAT WE WANNA PUT IN PLACE, THEY'RE GONNA OPERATE IT NO MATTER WHAT. WE GO SAY, HEY, STOP. HEY, STOP. SO WE REALLY, WHAT'S THE POINT OF THE REGULATION AT THAT POINT? BECAUSE YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO TAKE 'EM TO COURT, WHICH WOULD BE THE SAME THING THAT IF THEY'RE NOT ACTUALLY ABLE TO OPERATE AND WE STOP 'EM FROM OPERATING, IT WOULD BE THE SAME ADDITIONAL THING. SO THAT'S KIND OF A LITTLE BIT OF A, I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THAT ONE. AND I KNOW YOU DID SAY THAT THERE'S, THAT THERE'S NOTHING WE CAN DO 'CAUSE OF THE RIGHTS, BUT WE DO HAVE SOME RECENT CASES THAT SAID WE CAN KIND OF BAN 'EM IN CERTAIN AREAS IF WE ZONE IT THAT WAY. SO THERE IS A FIFTH OPTION I I [00:50:01] WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS. UH, I I WON'T ADDRESS THAT LAST ONE. I, I WOULD, I WOULD LEAVE THAT TO, TO LEGAL. UM, IN TERMS OF ENFORCEMENT, WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS SCALE OF ENFORCEMENT BECAUSE IF, IF ALL OF A SUDDEN ALL OF THE A HUNDRED PLUS SHORT-TERM RENTALS THAT NOW EXIST NOW NEED TO, TO HAVE SOMEBODY HAMMERING ON THEM, UH, TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE DOING SOMETHING THAT IS, THAT IS A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT LEVEL OF ENFORCEMENT THAN IF WE WERE TO ADD THESE REGULATIONS TO MANY OF THE SHORT TERM RENTALS RIGHT NOW ARE ALREADY MEETING NINE TENTHS OF THE REGULATIONS THAT WE'RE PROPOSING. AGAIN, IF YOU'VE GOT AN AIRBNB OR A VRBO, THOSE REGULATIONS ARE ALREADY BEING MET AND WE FEEL PRETTY CONFIDENT IN THAT. SO WHAT ABOUT, WHAT ABOUT SOMEONE WHO IS DECIDES TO OPEN ONE TOMORROW? IT'S NOT A PART OF THAT A HUNDRED. YOU WOULD HAVE TO ENFORCE 'EM, YOU'D HAVE TO GO DO SOMETHING WITH THEM, RIGHT? CORRECT. SO IT'S BACK CORRECT. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE SAME TYPE OF THING HERE. I I DON'T THINK WE'RE STILL GONNA GO THROUGH A LEGAL SYSTEM SOMEHOW TO GET THAT ENFORCED. SURE. AND YOU'RE NOT WRONG. I DON'T THINK WE'RE ANTICIPATING A GREAT INFLUX OF SHORT-TERM RENTALS INTO THE CITY JUST BECAUSE WE CHANGED THE REGULATIONS. I, I DON'T, I DON'T THINK THAT'S, UM, I, I DON'T SEE THAT AS A REALISTIC EXPECTATION. YES, MA'AM. HI, MR. SCRIBNER. I HAVE A QUESTION. IF, UM, WE WERE TO BAN SHORT-TERM RENTALS AND OR ZONE THEM OUT OF RESIDENTIAL AREAS, UM, AND STARTING TOMORROW I LOOKED ONLINE AND SAW ONE IN A RESIDENTIAL AREA AND WANTED TO RENT IT AS A CITY. WHAT WOULD WE DO IF I CALLED YOU UP AND I SAID THERE'S A SHORT TERM RENTAL, BUT I KNOW THERE'S AN ORDINANCE THAT BANS IT. WHAT WOULD WE DO? UH, WE WOULD LOOK INTO IT AND GO THROUGH OUR NORMAL CODE ENFORCEMENT, UM, PROCESS. WILL YOU EXPLAIN TO ME WHAT THAT IS FOR THE PUBLIC? UM, SURE, SURE. WE WOULD INVESTIGATE. SO WE'D GO OUT AND WE WOULD, WE WOULD CHECK THE ADS ONLINE. WE WOULD GO LOOK AT IT IN PERSON, UH, AND INSPECT, UM, FROM THE RIGHT OF WAY. WE DON'T HAVE PERMISSION TO GO INTO THE HOUSE AT THAT POINT. UH, WE WOULD THEN SEND A LETTER OR WE WOULD EITHER SAY, YES, THIS IS HAPPENING, OR NO, THIS ISN'T HAPPENING. IF THE ANSWER IS YES, THEN WE WOULD, UH, SEND A VIOLATION LETTER TO THE OWNER AND TO THE PROPERTY, UH, ITSELF TO THE ADDRESS. UH, AT WHICH TIME WE WOULD HOPE THAT THEY WOULD CALL US AND SAY, WHAT DO I DO? IF THEY DON'T, WHICH A LOT OF TIMES HAPPENS WITH, UH, CODE ENFORCEMENT EFFORTS, UH, WE WOULD WAIT PROBABLY A WEEK, TWO WEEKS, WHATEVER THE, THE TIME IS THAT, THAT WE SET IN PLACE, UH, AND THEN SEND ANOTHER LETTER. THEN WE WOULD WAIT, AND THEN WE WOULD PROBABLY SEND A THIRD LETTER. AT THAT POINT WE WOULD ISSUE A CITATION. A CITATION WOULD THEN, IF, IF WE CAN FIND THE OWNER, WHICH IS UH, UH, UH, SOMETIMES AGAIN A CHALLENGE, UM, NOT IMPOSSIBLE, BUT CAN BE CHALLENGING, THEN WE WOULD, UH, SEND THAT CITATION TO THEM. AND THEN THAT WOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE COURT SYSTEM, WHICH CAN TAKE, DEPENDING ON THEIR WORKLOAD, DEPENDING ON THEIR, THEIR DOCKET LOAD, UM, COULD TAKE UP TO THREE MONTHS BEFORE THAT GOES TO A HEARING. BY THEN WE MAY HAVE ISSUED MORE CITATIONS AND THOSE COULD GO AS A PACKAGE TO THE COURT. UM, AND THEN IT'S UP TO THE JUDGE. WHAT HAPPENS AFTER THAT? IS IT SAFE TO SAY WHILE THEY'RE WAITING FOR THEIR DAY IN COURT, THAT THEY COULD STILL CONTINUE TO OPERATE THEIR BUSINESS? THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY. THANK YOU. QUICK QUESTION, KIND OF DOWN. SO WHAT HAPPENS IF, UH, WE DEAL WITH THE REGULATIONS AND SOMEONE DECIDES TO OPEN THIS UP AND YOU FIND THAT THEY'RE OPERATING? WHAT'S THE PROCESS? IT'S THE SAME PROCESS. SO IT'S THE SAME PROCESS EITHER WAY. YOU'RE STILL TALKING ABOUT THE SAME IDENTICAL PROCESS. IF YOU BAN IT OR IF YOU REGULATE IT, THERE'S NO DIFFERENCE. THERE'S NO DIFFERENCE COST TO THE COURT CASE. YOU'RE STILL GONNA HAVE TO GO ISSUE 'EM A LETTER AND A CITATION. THEY STILL GOTTA GO TO THEIR DAY IN COURT. THEY STILL GOTTA GO TO THE WHOLE PROCESS AGAIN. IT'S STILL, IT'S STILL THE SAME IF, IF IT IS OPERATING LEGALLY. YES. YES. IF WE HAVE A PERMITTING PROCESS, AGAIN, IT'S A MATTER OF SCALE, WE WOULD CUT WAY DOWN ON THE NUMBER. SO YOU'D HAVE SAY 15 THAT WE'VE GOTTA TAKE THROUGH THE COURT SYSTEM RATHER THAN 115. IT'S A, IT'S AN ENORMOUS DIFFERENCE IN SCALE. AND IF YOU JUST SAID BAN 'EM, THEN IT'S, IT'S A LOT DIFFERENT BECAUSE ONCE YOU FIND IT, YOU'RE ACTUALLY TAKING AWAY THE A HUNDRED THAT YOU'RE HAVING TO REGULATE. BUT IF WE REGULATE THEM, WON'T WE THEN BE ABLE TO OBTAIN THE HOT TAX FROM THEM AND, AND, AND OTHER THINGS THAT COME ALONG WITH THAT? YOU CAN, YOU CAN, BUT IT'S NOT THAT MUCH. YOU'RE NOT TALKING HOW MUCH HOT TAX ARE WE TALKING ABOUT? BUT IT STILL BENEFITS THE CITIZENRY ONE, OUR, OUR BEST ESTIMATE WAS SOMEWHERE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF 70 TO $80,000 A YEAR. OKAY. THAT'S, THAT'S A GOOD ESTIMATE. ANYONE ELSE I GOT, I GOT A QUESTION. YES, SIR. ONE OF THE THINGS WE, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IN THE PAST IS WHEN WE CHANGE ZONING. SO YOU HAVE AN EXISTING SHORT TERM RENTAL MM-HMM . WHETHER OR NOT THEY GOT A SUP OR NOT, THEY'RE AN [00:55:01] EXISTING SHORT-TERM RENTAL. SO YOU CHANGE THE ZONING. WOULD THEY BE GRANDFATHERED BECAUSE THEY EXISTED BEFORE THE ZONING CHANGE? NOW WE'VE HAD THAT DISCUSSION. YES, THEY WOULD NOT. OKAY. UM, AND THE REASON IS THERE'S, THERE'S TWO THINGS GOING ON HERE. NUMBER ONE, THEY WERE NEVER LEGALLY ZONED. OKAY. SO IN ORDER TO BE CONSIDERED A NON-CONFORMING USE OR SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE GRANDFATHERED, WOULD, IT HAS TO BE A LEGALLY EXISTING BUSINESS BEFORE THE, THE LAW WAS CHANGED IN 2025. BUT WE HAVE, WE HAD, WE HAD ZERO OF THOSE, BUT WE HAVE A SPECIAL USE PERMIT NOW. SO THAT'S, IT'S IN THE CODE THAT THEY'RE ALLOWED, THEY JUST HAVE TO HAVE A SPECIAL USE PERMIT, BUT THAT WOULD NOT APPLY TO A GRANDFATHER STATUS. THE, THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT IS UNDER STATE LAW IS CONSIDERED A DISCRETIONARY ZONING, UM, DECISION BY THIS BODY. AND IF SOMEONE, LIKE, SAY, IF SOMEBODY HAD HAD, UM, HAD APPLIED FOR ONE TODAY AND SAID, WELL, I'M GONNA MAKE SURE I'M IN UNDER THE, THE, THE LAW CHANGE, YOU AS A BODY COULD STILL APPLY ALL THOSE NEW REGULATIONS TO THAT SPECIAL USE PERMIT. UM, MAKING IT KIND OF NULL AND VOID. ANYWAY, I I GOT THAT PART. I WAS JUST, IF WE JUST CHANGED THE ZONING TO ZONE THEM OUT, WOULD THEY BE GRANDFATHERED? AND YOU SAID NO, THEY WOULD NOT. OKAY. YES, MA'AM. BECAUSE I, I REALLY WANNA MAINLY WAIT TO HEAR EVERYBODY SPEAK MM-HMM . BUT, UM, TO YOUR KNOWLEDGE, UM, AND I KNOW I ASKED CHIEF THIS QUESTION, BUT BEFORE WE WENT ON THIS WHOLE VENTURE, UH, HOW MANY COMPLAINTS DID WE HAVE ON THESE TYPES OF PROPERTIES? I I DON'T HAVE THAT NUMBER IN FRONT OF ME NOW. OKAY. BUT IT WASN'T SOMETHING THAT CAME UP ON THE REGULAR. OKAY, THANK YOU. IT, IT DID COME UP OCCASIONALLY, BUT, BUT NOT THAT OFTEN. OKAY. THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE? YEAH, SO I MEAN, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT 22,000 HOUSEHOLDS, KIND OF WHAT WE HAVE UTILITY BILLS, YOU HAVE A HUNDRED OF THEM. IT'S 0.45% OF THE CITY. THAT'S IT. IT'S 0.45. SO YOU'RE NOT GONNA GET A LOT OF COMPLAINTS 0.45, BUT YOU'RE GONNA GET A LOT OF COMPLAINTS FROM THE RESIDENT BESIDE IT AND THOSE THAT ARE AROUND THERE. MM-HMM . AND THAT'S THE THING IS, IS HOW MUCH ARE WE, WHERE'S THE GRAY AREA WHERE ONE'S PROPERTY RIGHTS ARE IN CHARGE OF OVER OVERREACHING SOMEBODY ELSE'S PROPERTY RIGHTS? THERE'S AN NOISE ORDINANCE. I MEAN, WE'VE HAD, I'VE HAD TWO IN THE PAST COUPLE OF WEEKS WHERE IN IN COUNTRY CLUB COVE WHERE THEY'RE HAVING A PARTY AND THEY COME OUT THERE AND THERE'S GUNS AND THERE'S PEOPLE PARKING EVERYWHERE AND YOU TELL 'EM DISPERSE 'CAUSE THEY'RE RENTING THE PAR THE HOUSE TO PARTY ON THERE. THAT HOUSE IS NOT LISTED. IT'S ON L OAK IN COUNTRY CLUB COVE ON 4,900 BLOCK. IT'S NOT LISTED ANYWHERE, BUT EVERY WEEK THEY'RE HAVING PE PEOPLE THERE FOR PARTIES AND IT'S BEING RENTED OUT. I MEAN, THAT COULD BE A RENTAL PROPERTY THAT'S, I MEAN, THEY'RE RUNNING OUT FOR ONE, TWO YEARS . BUT IF WE DON'T HAVE PROOF OF THAT, I MEAN, THOSE ARE GOOD EXAMPLES FOR NOISE ORDINANCE ISSUES, BUT TO ME, THAT'S NOT RELEVANT BECAUSE IF WE DON'T EVEN KNOW THAT'S AIRBNB, WE'RE OPERATING UNDER A LOT OF ASSUMPTIONS WITH THAT. IF YOU JUST, IF YOU BAN IT, IT'S, IT PREVENTS IT, IT GIVES THE OFF GIVES OFFICERS A BITE, GIVES 'EM SOMETHING TO BITE ON, GIVES 'EM AN ORDINANCE TO BITE AGAINST, HEY, WHAT HAPPENED? HEY, WE'RE RENTING THIS FOR A PARTY. OH, YOU CANNOT DO THAT. I DON'T, I DON'T CAN. OKAY, I'M SORRY. DO WELL, IF WE HAVE AN ORDINANCE, IF WE HAVE AN ORDINANCE THAT BANS OR RESTRICTS SHORT-TERM RENTALS AND THERE'S A NOISE ORDINANCE COMPLAINT AND THE POLICE ARE CALLED OUT, ARE YOU GOING TO SHUT DOWN THE SHORT-TERM RENTAL IF YOU FIND OUT THAT'S WHAT IT IS? NO. THE SHORT ANSWER IS NO. OKAY. WE WOULD TRY TO MITIGATE THE PROBLEM AT THAT POINT IN TIME. OUR ABILITY TO SHUT DOWN THE SHORT-TERM RENTAL SIDE OF IT. CAN'T DO. THAT'S A WHOLE DIFFERENT, A WHOLE DIFFERENT, UH, SO YOU WOULD HANDLE LIKE A NOISE COMPLAINT, LIKE YOU DO ANY NOISE COMPLAINT? YES. MM-HMM . OKAY. I JUST WANT CLARITY ON THAT. YEAH. YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY. YEAH, I JUST, I, I HAD A QUESTION. THERE WAS A QUESTION I ASKED LEGAL, UM, REGARDING THE RULING FOR THE ALE COURT UP IN, IN FORT WORTH, OR IN OUR ALE COURTS OUTSIDE OF HARRIS COUNTY, IS WHAT KIND OF GUIDANCE CAN WE GET FROM THOSE COURTS ON FOR BAYTOWN IN, IN, IN THAT SITUATION? SO COUNSEL, YOU DID RECEIVE SOME, UH, INFORMATION FROM ME, UH, BEFORE THE MEETING. I DON'T WANT TO, UH, GET INTO THE SPECIFICS OF THAT. I WANT PRESERVE THE ATTORNEY-CLIENT PRIVILEGE. HOWEVER, WHAT I WILL SAY IS THAT THE ONLY STATE APPELLATE COURTS THAT ARE PRESIDENTIAL IN THE HOUSTON GALVESTON DISTRICT ARE THE FIRST, THE 14TH AND THE 15TH. ANY APPELLATE COURT CASE OUTSIDE OF THOSE THREE [01:00:01] APPELLATE COURTS WE CAN LOOK TO FOR GUIDANCE, BUT THEY ARE NOT PRESIDENTIAL. UH, THE ONLY PRESIDENTIAL CASES WOULD BE, UH, THE FIRST 14TH AND 15TH AND THE TEXAS SUPREME COURT . SO, I, I WASN'T ASKING ABOUT PRESIDENT, BUT MORE LIKE GUIDANCE. IS THERE, CAN WE GET GUIDANCE FROM THOSE OUTSIDE COURTS? WE, WE CAN LOOK TO THEM FOR GUIDANCE, BUT THEY ARE NOT, UM, PRESIDENTIAL HERE IN THIS DISTRICT. WE CANNOT RELY ON THEM, BUT, BUT WE CAN GLEAN FROM THEM WHAT WE CAN. OKAY. JUST A QUICK, I BELIEVE GRAPEVINES WENT TO THE TEXAS SUPREME COURT, CORRECT? IT, IT WAS DENIED, UH, SEARCH FERRARI BY THE TEXAS SUPREME COURT. IT WENT BACK DOWN TO THE TRIAL COURT AND BACK UP TO THE APPELLATE COURT. THERE WAS NO TEXAS SUPREME COURT OPINION. OKAY. IT IS, UH, IT IS NOW RECENTLY DECIDED BY THE, UH, APPELLATE COURT IN THAT, I BELIEVE IT'S THE SECOND DISTRICT. UM, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN WITH THE SUPREME COURT AT THIS POINT. MY ASSUMPTION IS THAT WE WILL SEE ANOTHER APPEAL. GOOD DEAL. WELL, WE HAVE SOME PEOPLE THAT ARE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK. WE'RE GONNA GO AHEAD AND LET, ALLOW THEM THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK. WE'RE GONNA START WITH MR. THANK YOU, MR. SCRIBNER. WE'RE GONNA START WITH SCOTT TAYLOR. UH, GOOD EVENING MAYOR. GOOD EVENING COUNSEL. UM, MY NAME'S SCOTT TAYLOR. UM, I MOVED HERE APPROXIMATELY THREE YEARS AGO FROM THE DC AREA. MY, I WANTED TO LIVE IN THE COUNTRY. UM, MY WIFE WANTED TO LIVE ON THE WATER. WE'RE CURRENTLY ON THE WATER. SO, UM, I WANNA DISCUSS, GET THE NERVES OUT. I WANT TO DISCUSS, UM, THE PROBLEMS I'VE HAD WITH SHORT-TERM RENTALS. I'M NOT GONNA PRETEND TO BE AN ATTORNEY AND SAY WHAT'S LEGAL OR WHAT'S NOT. I'M JUST GONNA TELL YOU WHAT I'VE BEEN THROUGH. UM, IN DECEMBER, THERE WAS A PARTY, THE HOUSE WAS SOLD LAST YEAR. IT BECAME A, AN AIRBNB OR VRBO. UM, THEY STARTED SHORT TERM RENTALS. THERE WAS A PARTY THROWN APPROXIMATELY DECEMBER LAST YEAR, UH, 50 RESIDENTS SHOWED UP. IN MY LINE OF WORK, WE WE GO BY CLUES. THEY WERE, THEY WERE PATTING YOUNG MEN DOWN BEFORE THEY CAME INTO THE HOUSE AND GIVING 'EM ARMBANDS. SO KNOWING THERE WAS GONNA BE A PROBLEM, LOUD MUSIC, BAYTOWN PD RESPONDED PROFESSIONALLY. THEY WERE DIRECT AND THEY WERE IN CONTROL. IT WAS A PLEASURE TO HAVE 'EM THERE. BUT TO COME OUT ON MY DECK AT 10 O'CLOCK AT NIGHT, I'M ELEVATED. AND TO HAVE A CANINE UNIT IN MY BACKYARD TO, TO, TO SMELL WHAT APPEARED TO BE MARIJUANA, AND TO HAVE KIDS RUNNING EVERYWHERE TRYING TO GET AWAY FROM THIS CARS UP AND DOWN THE STREET. UM, THE POLICE HANDLED IT WELL. THEY GOT 'EM OUT OF THERE. THIS WAS IN DECEMBER OF LAST YEAR, I BELIEVE. APPROXIMATELY TWO WEEKS LATER, THE CITY OF HOUSTON HAD A SHOOTING AT AN AIRBNB. UM, TWO WEEKS AFTER THAT, JANUARY 1ST, THERE WAS ANOTHER SHOOTING AT A AIRBNB IN HOUSTON. SO I'LL FAST FORWARD TO MY PROBLEM. MY REAL PROBLEM IS JUNE 28TH, I'M PREPARING FOR CHURCH AND I COME OUTSIDE AND THERE'S A GENTLEMAN ARGUING BACK AND FORTH WITH ANOTHER MALE ON THE TOP DECK. THEY'D HAD A PARTY ALL NIGHT, APPROXIMATELY 40 OR 50 PEOPLE IN THIS HOUSE WHERE AIRBNB SPECIFICALLY STATES ON THE WEBPAGE. EIGHT IS THE MAXIMUM LIMIT. SO THERE WERE CARS UP AND DOWN THE ROAD. OTHER NEIGHBORS HAD BEEN VERBAL WITH THEM. I'VE BEEN DOWN THAT ROAD, DIDN'T WANT TO GET INVOLVED WITH IT. UM, I CAME OUTSIDE EARLY THE NEXT MORNING. THERE WAS A VERBAL ARGUMENT BETWEEN TWO MALES. I ASKED ONE OF'EM, I TOLD ONE OF 'EM TO LEAVE. HE STARTED YELLING AT ME. I TOLD, I'M, I'VE BEEN IN LAW ENFOR, FEDERAL LAW ENFORCEMENT FOR 32 YEARS. I TOLD HIM IF HE DIDN'T LEAVE, HE, HE WAS GOING TO JAIL ONE WAY OR ANOTHER. HE WENT ACROSS THE STREET, GOT IN A CAR, I GO BACK INSIDE AND MAKE MY CUP MYSELF A CUP OF COFFEE TO GET READY FOR CHURCH. I COME BACK OUT AND THIS MAN'S LAYING ON THE, THE PAVEMENT GETTING CURB STOMPED. NOW, NOW IN 32 YEARS, GOD, GOD BLESS. I'VE NEVER HAD TO USE FORCE, STEADILY FORCE ON AN INDIVIDUAL, BUT I ARMED MYSELF AND WENT OUTSIDE TO PROTECT THIS MAN FROM BEING KILLED. THEY GOT OFF OF HIM. BAYTOWN SHOWED UP. UM, ANOTHER CLUE THAT HE DIDN'T WANT TO GO TO JAIL WAS THE THINGS HE WAS SAYING IS FOUR POLICE OFFICERS WERE WRESTLING HIM TO THE GROUND. AND THIS HAPPENED ALL UP AND DOWN MY STREET. AND, AND THAT THE THING IS, I DON'T WANT TO GET INTO WHAT SOMEBODY DOES WITH THEIR ASSETS, HOW THEY MAKE MONEY. BUT WHEN THEIR ASSETS BECOME MY LIABILITY, IT'S A PROBLEM. I SHOULDN'T HAVE TO BE SUBJECTED TO PROTECTING SOMEONE'S LIFE BECAUSE OF A SHORT TERM RENTAL. I HATE TO COME TO YOU WITH A PROBLEM AND NO SOLUTIONS. I KNOW THERE MIGHT NOT BE AN OUTRIGHT BAN, HOWEVER MINUTES. I BELIEVE SO. CAN WE GIVE HIM, I I WANT TO GIVE, GIVE A THIS, GET A MOTION. I MOVE TO GIVE [01:05:01] HIM ONE MORE MINUTE. FINISH A SPEECH. I I DON'T WANT TO COME TO YOU WITHOUT A I GOT A VOTE. I'M SORRY. YES, SIR. SORRY IF I DON'T, MR. MR. LAMONT IS NOT GONNA BE HAPPY WITH ME. I NEED A MOTION. YOU GOT IT. A GOT A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? YOU HAVE ONE MINUTE? YES, SIR. I DON'T WANT TO COME TO YOU AND PRESENT A PROBLEM WITHOUT A PARTIAL SOLUTION. I DON'T PRETEND TO BE AN ATTORNEY. I DON'T, I DO KNOW A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE CONSTITUTION. UM, I AN OUTRIGHT BAN, I'M NOT SO SURE. BUT I THINK HOW THEY DEFINE SHORT-TERM RENTALS IS A PROBLEM. YOU KNOW, A WEEK, A WEEK RENTAL IS GOING TO FORT LAUDERDALE. A WEAK RENTAL IS GOING TO, TO DESTIN OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. YOU'RE GONNA CUT OUT A LOT OF THE PROBLEM, IN MY OPINION, BY LIMITING THAT TO ABOVE A WEEK BECAUSE SOMEONE'S COMING IN FOR A PARTY, THEY'RE COMING IN FOR A HOLIDAY, AND, AND IT'S GONNA BE PROBLEMATIC, I THINK, DOWN IN THE, IN THE LONG RUN, DOWN THE STRETCH. SO, I, I DON'T WANNA SAY IT'S AN OUTRIGHT BAN WHAT THE CITY CAN AND CAN'T DO. I DISAGREE WITH SOME OF THE PREVIOUS STATE, YOU KNOW, UM, UM, STATEMENTS, THE, THE PREVIOUS SPEAKER MADE. UM, I DON'T WANT TO GET INTO THAT OR THE DISAGREEMENT. I'VE GOT 15 SECONDS LEFT. BUT THERE'S A LOT I COULD SAY ABOUT IT, ABOUT THE RESTRICTIONS. BUT JUST KNOW MY EXPERIENCE WAS NOT, NOT PLEASANT. YOU KNOW, GOD WILLING, I DIDN'T HAVE TO SHOOT THAT MAN. GOOD DEAL. THANK YOU MR. TAYLOR. THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE, SIR. NEXT WE WILL HAVE MR. WERA, MS. WERA HOLLAND, WHO'S PASSING HER TIME TO MR. INGER. SO WE'RE GONNA GO ON OVER TO STEVE WHITE. WAIT, GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS STEVE WHITE, LIVE IN BAYTOWN. I NEED YOUR ADDRESS. I NEED YOUR ADDRESS FOR RECORD. I LIVE IN BAYTOWN AT 24 39 BAY HILL DRIVE IN EVERGREEN FAIRWAY SUBDIVISION. PRIOR TO MOVING TO BAYTOWN, I LIVED IN HOUSTON FOR PREVIOUS 40 YEARS. ONE OF THE MANY THINGS THAT I LOVE ABOUT BAYTOWN IS THE NEIGHBORHOODS. THEY'RE SMALLER, FRIENDLIER, AND QUIETER THAN HOUSTON'S NEIGHBORHOODS WHERE THEY HAVE NO ZONING. THINK ABOUT THIS. IF YOU WANT TO CHANGE THE NATURE OF BAY TOWN'S NEIGHBORHOODS, QUICKLY ALLOW THERE TO BE SHORT TERM RENTALS IN ALL RESIDENTIAL AREAS. IF YOU WANT THE VALUE OF YOUR LARGEST INVESTMENT TO DECREASE, LET'S ALLOW SHORT TERM RENTALS IN RESIDENTIAL AREAS. NOTHING WILL CHANGE THE NATURE OF A NEIGHBORHOOD FASTER THAN MULTIPLE BMBS BEING ON YOUR STREET FILLED WITH STRANGERS FROM SOMEWHERE ELSE THAT HAVE NO VESTED INTEREST IN THE APPEARANCE OR QUALITY OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. ALL THEY CARE ABOUT IS THAT THEY COULD BE UP TO 10 PEOPLE STAYING IN A HIGHLY MODIFIED THREE BEDROOM APARTMENT HOUSE RATHER. AND THERE ARE A FEW TH SAVING A FEW BUCKS COMPARED TO A HOTEL, WHICH THERE ARE MANY OF HERE IN BAYTOWN. PLUS, THERE'S NO PESKY MANAGER ON SITE TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE NOT BEING TOO NOISY OR DRUNK AND DISORDERLY. THERE IS NO IMMEDIATE OVERSIGHT AT THIS QUAINT AT BREAD AND BREAKFAST WITH MATCHING CURTAINS AND FRESH PAINT. DO WE REALLY WANT SHORT-TERM RENTALS ALLOWED IN EVERY RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD? I DON'T THINK SO. THE CITY SAYS THEY WILL BE REGULATED. HAS ANYONE STOPPED TO CALCULATE THE COST OF ENFORCING THESE REGULATIONS? SO I WANNA SEE THE COST OF ENFORCEMENT. WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IS BAYTOWN TO ADOPT A COMPLETE BAN ON ST IN ALL RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS. THIS IS A COMMON SENSE PROPOSAL THAT MANY CITIES IN TEXAS HAVE ALREADY ADOPTED, AND THE BANS HAVE BEEN UPHELD BY SEVERAL COURTS. PLEASE LISTEN TO THE VOICES OF YOUR CONSTITUENTS AND CONSIDER THIS BAN. THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK. THANK YOU. NEXT WE'LL HAVE MR. MARGA, MS. MARGA MATTHEWS, WHO'S GIVEN HER TIME TO MS. MARIE SOSNOWSKI. SO NOW THE ONE AND ONLY MR. CALVIN MINGER, YOU HAVE YOUR TIME GIVEN TO YOU FROM MR. JERRY AND MR. MS. WERA, WHICH SHE'S GONNA GIVE YOU A TOTAL OF NINE MINUTES. WERA HOLLAND IS GONNA DONATE HER TIME TO ME. AND I THINK MR. AL YES, YES, SIR. DOWN THE LIST. YES, SIR. OKAY. YOU MENTIONED THAT. SO I'VE HEARD A FEW THINGS HERE AND, AND I HAD A LOT THAT I WANTED TO SAY. I NEED YOUR ADDRESS. I'M SORRY, I'M SORRY I'M OFF MY GAME TODAY. I NEED YOUR, ANYONE COMING TO SPEAK, I'M GONNA NEED YOUR ADDRESS FOR PART, FOR PROOF OF RECORD THAT NO PROBLEM, NO PROBLEM, MAYOR. UH, I GET IT. FOUR 11 NORTH BURNETT DRIVE, BAYTOWN, TEXAS, AND THE LAKEWOOD SUBDIVISION, MY LAST NAME IS MUNDINGER. FOUR GENERATIONS OF MONITORINGS HAVE LIVED IN THE LAKEWOOD SUBDIVISION. OKAY. WHAT I'M, I THINK WE HAVE [01:10:01] A FAILURE TO COMMUNICATE. I'M CONVINCED THAT THIS REDUCTION OF SCRUTINY AND THE SIMPLIFICATION OF THIS PROCESS WILL RESULT IN MORE STR IN BAYTOWN. IT COULD DOUBLE 'EM, IT COULD TRIPLE 'EM. I DON'T KNOW, BUT I'M CONVINCED IT'S GOING TO. SO ANY CLAIMS THAT, AND YOU DON'T EVEN HAVE THE PERSONNEL TO REGULATE ANY OF THESE, OF THESE THINGS ARE WHAT YOU'RE GONNA DO. BUT WHAT YOU NEED TO UNDERSTAND IS WHETHER IT'S AN S-U-P-A-A-B-C, AN ELEMENTAL P WE DON'T WANT SHORT TERM RENTALS IN ANY RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISION IN THE CITY OF BAYTOWN. PERIOD. OKAY? THAT'S WHAT WE WANT. ARLINGTON NEW BRAUNFELS, LA PORTE, DALLAS FORT WORTH AND SOON TO BE DEER PARK HAVE ALL PUSHED BACK. THEY'VE GONE, THEY'VE DONE THE BANDS. THEY'VE BANNED IN RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISIONS, MR. CITY ATTORNEY THAT HAS BEEN UPHELD BY THE TEXAS SUPREME COURT AND ANOTHER COURT WHICH UPHELD THE CITY OF NEW BRAUNFELS. OKAY? I'M ALSO HEARING FROM YOU, MR. CITY ATTORNEY, THAT THERE'S GONNA BE A POTENTIAL ACTION IN THE COMING TEXAS LEGISLATURE. OKAY? HAVE YOU SAID THAT? NO, SIR. I HAVE NOT COUNT COUNCIL MEMBERS, HAVE YOU HEARD PEOPLE SAY THAT? THAT THEY'RE, THAT IN THE NEXT LEGISLATURE, THEY'RE GONNA BAN MUNICIPALITIES FROM BEING ABLE TO BAN SPECIAL, BE ABLE, UH, SHORT TERM RENTALS. HAVE Y'ALL HEARD THAT? EVEN IF THAT'S THE CASE, IF THERE IS LEGISLATION THAT BAN SHORT TERM RENTALS BANNED CITIES FROM SHORT TERM RENTALS, TML IS GONNA FIGHT IT. AND IF THE CITY OF BAYTOWN HAS ALREADY ADOPTED A BAN ON SHORT TERM RENTALS IN RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS, THAT WOULD BE CONSTITUTIONALLY UPHELD, REGARDLESS OF WHAT HAPPENS IN THE TEXAS LEGISLATURE, THE CITY OF BAYTOWN WILL BE GRANDFATHERED. OKAY? THOSE BANS WILL BE GRANDFATHERED IN PLACE. IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT THE LEGISLATURE DOES AND FY I'VE TALKED TO TOM BUTLER, WHO'S GONNA BE THE NEXT STATE REPRESENTATIVE FOR OUR DISTRICT. AND TOM BUTLER IS, SUPPORTS LONG-TERM BANS EVERYWHERE, AS LONG AS IT'S IN A RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISION. I'VE TALKED TO TML, THEY'RE GONNA FIGHT VIGOROUSLY ANY EFFORT THAT'S GONNA DIMINISH HOME RULE MUNICIPALITIES THAT ANY LEGISLATION THAT COULD DIMINISH THE AUTHORITY OF HOME RULE CITIES IN THAT LEGISLATURE. SO DON'T LOOK FOR THE LEGISLATURE TO, TO BE EFFECTIVE IN ANY WAY. THAT'S GOING TO DIMINISH WHAT WE DO. UH, WAYNE SMITH IS ALSO, UH, SUPPORTS SHORT TERM RENTALS FORMER STATE REPRESENTS. SO, UH, THE MESSAGE IS CLEAR. THE REASON ALL THESE OTHER MUNICIPALITIES HAVE, HAVE DONE THIS BECAUSE OF THE NEGATIVE IMPACT OF SHORT TERM RENTALS. AND THIS HAS THE POTENTIAL TO HAVE NEGATIVE IMPACT IN EVERY NEIGHBORHOOD IN THIS CITY. AND WE WANT, WE WANT A BAN ON, ON SHORT TERM RENTALS IN THE CITY OF BAYTOWN. THANK Y'ALL. THANK YOU, MR. INGER. NOW WE WILL HAVE MS. CARLA PERCY, PLEASE STATE YOUR ADDRESS. OKAY. I LIVE AT 5,002 ASHWOOD DRIVE IN COUNTRY CLUB OAKS IN BAYTOWN. THANK YOU. UH, I HAVE LOW BLOOD PRESSURE. THAT'S WHY I'M IN THE CHAIR. I CAN'T STAND UP FOR VERY LONG, ALTHOUGH MY BLOOD PRESSURE'S PRETTY HIGH RIGHT NOW. UH, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE A BAN, A TOTAL BAN ON ALL SHORT TERM RENTALS IN BAYTOWN IN THE RESIDENTIAL AREAS. THERE IS A HOME RIGHT AROUND THE CORNER FROM ME ON GOOSE CREEK DRIVE THAT HAS 2, 4, 6, 8 PICKUPS PARKED IN THE DOUBLE WIDE DRIVEWAY AND PROBABLY THREE OR FOUR ON THE STREET TOO ALL THE TIME. SO THESE, I CALL THESE FLOP HOUSES. THESE ARE CONTRACT WORKERS COMING IN FOR THE WEEK. THEY SHOW UP MONDAY NIGHT. THEY LEAVE FRIDAY NIGHT, BUT THEY'RE PARKED ALL OVER THE PLACE AND THE YARDS AREN'T TAKEN CARE OF. WELL, TRASH CANS DON'T GET PUT UP. YOU CAN'T GET THROUGH THE STREET BECAUSE THE GUY ACROSS THE STREET PARKS, HIS THREE PICKUPS [01:15:01] ALONG THERE TOO, I DON'T KNOW HOW A SCHOOL BUS EVER GETS THROUGH THERE IF THEY HAD TO. UM, THERE'S ONE ON INTERLOCHEN AND I CAN GIVE YOU ADDRESSES OF ALL OF THEM IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD. AND I TELL YOU, YOU CAN FIND OUT THE NAME OF THE OWNER. I FOUND OUT THE NAMES OF ALL THE OWNERS. ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS GO TO THE HARRIS COUNTY TAX ROLLS. UH, THIS HOUSE USED TO BE DOC CHRISTENSEN'S HOUSE. HE'S PROBABLY ROLLING IN HIS GRAVE RIGHT NOW. SOMEBODY BOUGHT IT AND THEY PUT LIKE FIVE AIR CONDITIONERS CUT INTO THE BRICK ON THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE. THERE MAY BE MORE ALONG THE SIDES IN THE BACK WHERE YOU CAN TELL THEY'VE SPLIT THE ROOMS UP. BEDROOM, BEDROOM, BEDROOM. THE DINING ROOM'S NOW A BEDROOM. IT'S RIDICULOUS. AND THERE'S CARS ALL OVER THE PLACE. THERE'S OTHER HOUSE DOWN THE STREET FROM ME, 51 0 4 ASHWOOD. I DON'T KNOW WHO, I MEAN, I KNOW WHO OWNS IT, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S A SINGLE FAMILY HOME, BUT IT'S KIND OF ODD THAT THEY HAVE 2, 4, 6, 8, 10 CARS IN THE DRIVEWAY AND THREE ACROSS THE FRONT. THERE'S CRAP ALL OVER THE YARD. THEY DON'T MOW THE YARD. IT LOOKS LIKE HELL. IT BRINGS DOWN ALL OUR PROPERTY VALUES. IT'S TERRIBLE. I'VE BEEN IN 23 YEARS, I VOTE TO BAN EVERYTHING. THANK YOU, MR. FRANCO. WE'RE YOUR CONSTITUENTS. WE ARE THE REASON YOU'RE HERE. SO YOU NEED TO TAKE CARE OF US. FORGET THOSE SHORT TERM PEOPLE THAT WANNA RENT THEIR HOUSE OUT. SCREW 'EM. THEY'RE NOT HERE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. NEXT WE WILL HAVE MS. NORA SMITH. OH, NORA SMITH. IT'S 5 0 0 7 ASHWOOD. AND, UH, SINCE YOU GAVE THAT SPECIAL USE PERMIT TO THE OTHER ONE THAT PLACE AT, OKAY, SO YOU GAVE A SPECIAL USE PERMIT TO THE HOUSE. 5 1 1 1 ASHWOOD. AS SHE SAID, THOSE ARE TWO PROPERTIES THAT POPPED UP SINCE THAT HAPPENED. AND THAT ONE WAS 5 1 0 4 ASHWOOD. AND UM, THEN THAT OTHER 1 5 0 0 2 INTERLOCHEN. AND UH, THEN THERE'S ANOTHER ONE THAT SAID, I'VE COUNTED AT LEAST EIGHT ON JUST OUR SIDE OF THE CREEK, AND THERE'S PROBABLY MORE, BUT THAT'S THE ONES THAT ARE JUST SO OBVIOUS. AND THE PROBLEM I HAVE WITH THE THINGS IS THAT YOU GUYS ARE TALKING ABOUT MAKING THINGS EASIER FOR THE SPECIAL USE, THESE SHORT-TERM RENTAL PLACES TO POP UP. THEY'RE DOING IT ANYWAY. UM, YOU HAVE, THERE JUST SEEMS TO BE A LACK OF ENFORCEMENT OF ANYTHING. YOU TALK ABOUT MAKING THESE THINGS EASIER. I READ THE PROPOSALS YOU HAD ON THE CHANGES AND STUFF, AND YOU, THERE, THERE'S THE THINGS, COMMENTS SAYING THAT, OH, WE'RE NOT GONNA GO AGAINST HOA AND ALL. YOU ALREADY WENT AGAINST IT WHEN YOU GRANTED THAT SUP THAT WAS VIOLATING THE DEED RESTRICTIONS AND GOING AGAINST THE HOA RIGHT THERE. UH, I, I, I HAVE A BIG CONCERN ABOUT, YOU'RE, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, OH, WELL WE CAN HAVE A HOTEL TAX. UH, THAT'S JUST MINUSCULE COMPARED TO WHAT, WHY, WHY, WHY NOT LOOK INTO BETTER ENFORCEMENT OF THE BANNING OF THESE AS SHORT TERM RENTALS? YOU HAVE A $2,000 A DAY FINE FOR VIOLATING ZONING. THESE, ALL THOSE IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD, THAT COUNTRY, CLUB OAKS AT OLD COUNTRY CLUB OAKS ARE ALL VIOLATING THE ZONING. THIS IS A NEIGHBORHOOD FOR SPECIFICALLY SINGLE FAMILY HOUSES. AND THIS IS, THIS IS NOT IT. I SAID, I DO LIKE ONE IDEA. IF YOU'RE GONNA DO ANYTHING ELSE, THEN DON'T MAKE IT TO WHERE THAN JUST COME IN FOR A WEEK AND OR A PARTY WEEKEND. THAT, THAT'S, TO ME, THAT'S JUST RIDICULOUS. AS I SAID, THE BIG, BIG PROBLEM, I, I'M JUST, I KEPT HEARING WITH THAT. WHEN I WAS CAME TO ANOTHER MEETING, I KEPT HEARING REPEATEDLY THE PHRASE OF, WE DON'T WANT TO GET INTO ENFORCEMENT. WELL, THAT IS A BIG PROBLEM. I SAID, HOW ARE YOU GONNA ENFORCE ANYTHING? IT IT, WHAT YOU HAVE IS NOT BEING ENFORCED. SO I THINK THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED, NOT CHANGING THE REGULATIONS AT ALL, BUT HOW ARE WE GONNA ENFORCE THIS? HOW ARE WE GONNA MAKE THE NEIGHBORHOOD STAY NICER? WELL, THANK YOU. NEXT, WE WILL HAVE KEENAN SCHULTZ. PLEASE STATE YOUR ADDRESS. I WANNA THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. AND COUNSEL. UH, MY NAME IS KEENAN SCHULTZ. I LIVE AT 5,008 ASHWOOD. UH, ACTUALLY A LITTLE BIT OF MY THUNDER'S BEEN TAKEN AWAY BECAUSE I LIVE DOWN THE STREET FROM SOME OF THESE OTHER PEOPLE, AND SOME OF THE THINGS THAT I NOTICE, THEY'VE ALSO NOTICED TOO. UM, WE'RE SEEING, LIKE I SAID, THESE HOUSES HERE [01:20:01] WITH THE AIR CONDITIONERS OR THE, THE CARS IN FRONT AND STUFF. UM, I FIND IT VERY INTERESTING THAT WE MOVED INTO THE COUNTRY CLUB OAKS. AND ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS THAT WE'VE BEEN THERE 11 YEARS NOW, UM, THAT WE FOUND OUT THERE WAS, THERE WAS SOME REGULATIONS JUST ON, UH, HAVING A GARAGE SALE. AND AT THAT TIME, ONLY TWO GARAGE SALES A YEAR, AND YOU HAD TO HAVE A PERMIT FOR IT. I UNDERSTAND THAT'S BEEN KIND OF TURNED OVER, WHATEVER. BUT THE PURPOSE OF THAT WAS SO THAT WE'RE NOT SETTING UP A LITTLE FLEA MARKET IN PEOPLE'S NEIGHBORHOODS AND IN THEIR YARDS. AND WE ARE SEEING THESE, THESE THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN PUT IN PLACE SO THAT IT PROTECTS THE, THE, THE, THE COMMUNITY AND PROTECTS THE, THE PEOPLE IN THE RESIDENTIAL. AND YET WE ARE ALLOWING SOMETHING LIKE THESE SHORT TERM RENTALS GOING INTO OUR RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS. A NUMBER OF YEARS AGO, THE CITY OF HOUSTON BANNED THE ONE HOUR RENTALS AT HOTELS FOR A REASON. , OKAY. UM, AND MY QUESTION IS, IS THAT, YOU KNOW, WE LIVE RIGHT HERE OFF OF I 10 AND I 10 IS A NOTORIOUS CORRIDOR OF HUMAN TRAFFICKING AS WELL AS DRUG RUNNING. WHO IS TO SAY THAT THESE ONE WEEK, TWO WEEK RENTALS, WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE, THAT THEY'RE NOT HOUSING SOME OF THESE PEOPLE THAT THEY'RE TRAFFICKING AND MAYBE EVEN RUNNING BROTHELS THROUGH 'EM. WE DO NOT KNOW WHO THEY ARE. THIS POOR MAN OVER HERE THAT HAD TO PULL OUT A GUN, TAKE A GUN OUT WITH, MY GOSH, THAT IS HORRENDOUS. THAT, THAT'S LIKE MY WORST NIGHTMARE. I COULDN'T EVEN IMAGINE HAVING TO GO THROUGH SOMETHING LIKE THAT. SO I WOULD JUST ASK THAT YOU ALL LISTEN TO CONSTITUENTS BAN 'EM IN RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS, PLEASE. UM, IT'S, IT'S BAD ENOUGH THAT WE HAVE SOME HOTELS UP AND DOWN SPUR THREE 30 ANYHOW, UH, THAT ARE CLOSE TO THE RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS. UH, FORTUNATELY THERE'S NO TRUCK STOPS, BUT, UM, BUT THEY'RE, THEY SEEM TO BE DOING OKAY, BUT IT, IT, IT, WE JUST DON'T NEED TO HAVE THAT OPENED UP TO THE RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW THE HOUSE DOWN THE STREETS WHERE THEY HAVE THE EIGHT CARS IN THERE, OR THE AIRBNB ON ONE ON ONE SIDE OF, UH, OF ASHWOOD. AND THEN THE OTHER ONE THAT'S OVER THERE, RIGHT THERE WHERE, UH, GOOSE CREEK COMES AT TO ASHWOOD, I MEAN, ALMOST DEAD ENDS RIGHT INTO IT. THERE'S ANOTHER OTHER ONE, ANOTHER ONE THERE. WE DON'T KNOW WHO THESE PEOPLE ARE, AND SO PLEASE, YEAH, I SEE IT. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU. AND NOW WE HAVE STEVE RO. PLEASE STATE YOUR ADDRESS. 47 16 ST. ANDREWS DRIVE. GOOD EVENING. MY NAME'S STEVE WAVER. I CAME TO BAYTOWN IN 1980 WHEN I WAS HIRED BY EXXON AS AN ENVIRONMENTAL ENGINEER. MY FIRST YEAR HERE, I LEASED AN APARTMENT. DURING THAT TIME, I, LIKE MOST PEOPLE, DID A CONSIDERABLE AMOUNT OF RESEARCH BEFORE MAKING THE BIGGEST, UH, PURCHASE OF MY LIFE, WHICH WAS MY HOME. I LOOKED AT TAXES, SCHOOL DISTRICT REPUTATIONS, UTILITY, RELIABILITY, COMMUTING TIMES, BUT MOST IMPORTANTLY, I LOOKED AT THE CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT I WANTED TO MOVE INTO. IN THE EARLY 1980S, THERE WAS NO SUCH THING AS SHORT TERM RENTAL PROPERTIES AND RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS. NOW, I BELIEVE WE HAVE ONE TO 200 IN BAYTOWN, BUT WHY? THERE ARE PLENTY OF HOTELS IN BAYTOWN WITH AN AVERAGE OCCUPANCY RATE OF ONLY ABOUT 50%. THEREFORE, ST ARE NOT NECESSARY TO ENJOY A VISIT TO BAYTOWN. SOME PEOPLE RENT THESE PLACES AND ORDER TO CRAM 10 TO 20 OF THEIR FRIENDS OR RELATIVES INTO A SINGLE 2000 SQUARE FOOT RESIDENTIAL HOME. INSTEAD OF RENTING MULTIPLE HOTEL ROOMS, OTHERS SIMPLY WANT AN INEXPENSIVE VENUE TO THROW A PARTY. AND UNFORTUNATELY, ALL TOO OFTEN IT'S THE NEIGHBORS THAT HAVE TO PUT UP WITH ALL OF THE NOISE, THE TRAFFIC, THE PARKING PROBLEMS, THE TRASH, AND THE INHERENT UNEASE, UH, ASSOCIATED WITH NOT KNOWING WHO'S LIVING NEXT TO YOU, YOUR SPOUSE OR YOUR CHILDREN. I CANNOT, FOR THE LIFE OF ME, UNDERSTAND WHY SOME COUNCIL MEMBERS APPEAR TO BE MORE INTERESTED IN PROTECTING THE FINANCIAL INTERESTS OF STR OWNERS THAT DO NOT EVEN LIVE HERE OVER THE QUALITY OF LIFE SAFETY AND PROPERTY VALUES OF BAYTOWN CITIZENS. TONIGHT, YOU HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO STAND UP AND DO THE RIGHT THING FOR THE BAYTOWN CITIZENS, WHICH IS TO BAN ST FROM OUR RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS. [01:25:02] WE'VE ALREADY MENTIONED ALL THE, THE CITIES THAT HAVE ALREADY DONE THIS IN TEXAS, ARLINGTON, FORT WORTH, FREDERICKSBURG, NEW BRAUNFELS, PEARL AND PLANO WOODWAY. AND THEY HAVE ALREADY TAKEN THIS STEP TO BAN THESE SDRS. SO THIS IS OBVIOUSLY NOT AN UNREASONABLE OR IMPOSSIBLE REQUEST. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. NEXT WE'LL HAVE GN HEAVES, NO, HINES HIES. I'M JEAN HINES. I LIVE AT 1209 NEL STREET, PLUMWOOD, SECTION TWO. I'VE LIVED IN MY HOUSE 45 YEARS. WE'VE HAD CHANGES OVER THE 45 YEARS. OBVIOUSLY, OLDER PEOPLE MOVE OUT, YOUNGER PEOPLE MOVE IN, BUT THIS HAVING, I GUESS I'M LUCKY WE ONLY HAD EIGHT CARS IN THE DRIVEWAY AND ON THE STREET, BUT THEY'RE THERE IN AND OUT, SOMETIMES TWO OR THREE DAYS, SOMETIMES FOUR DAYS, SOMETIMES ONE DAY. AND THEN YOU GOT FOUR OR FIVE DIFFERENT CARS IN THERE. ONE TIME I WAS AT MY SON'S HOUSE HELPING HIM OUT WITH THEIR DOG WHILE THEY TOOK A, TOOK MY GRANDSON TO A BASEBALL TOURNAMENT. AND MY HUSBAND SAID, GOOD LORD, YOU MISSED IT. WE, THEY HAD A REAL PARTY LAST NIGHT AND I WAS ABOUT READY TO TELL 'EM WHAT THEY COULD DO WITH THEIR BOOMBOX. HE'S NOT AS NICE AS ME AND I DON'T FEEL SAFE WITH ALL THESE PEOPLE ROAMING IN AND OUT AND IN AND OUT. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY DO. I'VE HAD BOX TRUCKS MOVED IN THINGS. LAST WEEK WE HAD A U-HAUL TRUCK IN THE DRIVEWAY. I DID MANAGE TO FIND OUT THAT ACCORDING WHO OWNED THE HOUSE ACCORDING TO THE TAX RECORDS, BUT I ALSO FOUND OUT TAKING THIS GENTLEMAN'S SUGGESTION TO SEE IF IT REALLY IS BEING RENTED OUT. AND I FOUND ON THE REAL ESTATE LISTING, THE HOUSE WAS SOLD IN OCTOBER. SO I DON'T KNOW IF THE PEOPLE THAT I ACTUALLY FOUND OUT REALLY OWN THE HOUSE OR IF IT'S A CORPORATION OR WHO IT IS, BUT I'M TIRED OF NOT FEELING SAFE IN MY OWN HOUSE WITH ALL THESE PEOPLE RUNNING IN AND OUT ALL HOURS OF THE DAY AND THE NIGHT RUNNING THE GARAGE DOORS UP AND DOWN AND UP AND DOWN ALL NIGHT LONG. I MEAN, COME ON, YOU DON'T NEED A CARS FOR A THREE BEDROOM HOUSE. THE HOUSES IN PLUMWOOD ARE NOT HUGE HOUSES. SO I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SEE IF YOU'RE GONNA DO SOMETHING, JUST GET RID OF THEM. THIS IS A NICE AREA WITH A LOT OF FAMILIES NOW THAT HAVE YOUNG KIDS. THEY'RE THE OLDER FOLKS LIKE US ARE MOVING ON DOWNSIZING OR SOMETHING ELSE. BUT YOU GOT THESE LITTLE KIDS AND WITH THEM COMING THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOODS LIKE THAT AT ALL HOURS OF THE DAY AND THE NIGHT, SOMETIMES THOSE KIDS ARE STANDING ON THE STREET CORNER IN THE DARK WAITING ON THE BUS, AND THEY DON'T ALWAYS KNOW TO DRESS LIKE THIS WRONG WOMAN, WOMAN HERE THAT'S GOT ON THE LIGHT COLORED CLOTHES. THEY'RE GONNA DRESS IN WHATEVER THEY'RE GONNA WEAR TO SCHOOL, THEY COULD HAVE ON DARK CLOTHES. AND IF THEY'RE IN THAT ROAD NOT THINKING ABOUT IT. AND THAT IDIOT WITH ZOOMING DOWN THE ROAD IN THAT TRUCK, THE BIG DUALLY TRUCK, AS A MATTER OF FACT, HE COULD KILL A KID. AND YOU KNOW, THAT'S WORRISOME TO ME. SO HELP US OUT. GET RID OF THESE THINGS. THANK YOU. NOW WE WILL HAVE MS. MARIE DREWNOWSKI. YOU'RE GONNA HAVE SIX MINUTES BECAUSE MS. MORGAN, MATTHEW ZEED HER TIME TO YOU. PLEASE STATE YOUR ADDRESS. MARIE JANOWSKI, 4 7 0 5 BURNING TREE, BAYTOWN, TEXAS. THIS IS A REVIEW. OH, MAYOR JOHNSON AND COUNCIL MEMBERS, THIS IS A REVIEW OF WHAT HAS TRANSPIRED OVER THE PAST FEW MONTHS. MR. SCRIBNER, I INFORMED YOU AND CITY COUNCIL BACK WHEN THAT DALLAS ARLINGTON FORT WORTH AND OTHER TEXAS CITIES TOOK A DELIBERATE APPROACH TO PROHIBIT SHORT TERM RENTALS IN RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS. [01:30:01] WHY IS IT THESE CITIES CAN DO THAT? AND YOU TELL US WE CANNOT DO THAT. PROHIBIT SHORT TERM RENTALS IN RESIDENTIAL AREAS. I SPOKE WITH THE PEOPLE IN THESE CITIES. I DIDN'T LOOK THEM UP ON THE INTERNET AND PULL THINGS OFF OF IT. DO YOU KNOW WHY IT TOOK THESE COMMUNITIES TWO TO THREE YEARS TO DEVELOP THEIR PLANS? THEY HELD PUBLIC MEETINGS. THEY LISTENED TO THEIR RESIDENTS. THEY CAREFULLY EVALUATED THE ISSUES AND MAPPED OUT WHERE SHORT-TERM RENTALS COULD APPROPRIATELY OPERATE TO KEEP THEM OUT OF RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS. WHY DID THEY INVEST SO MUCH TIME AND EFFORT? BECAUSE THEY WANTED TO GET IT RIGHT, NOT RUSH THROUGH A POLICY IN A FEW WEEKS, THEY UNDERSTOOD THE IMPORTANCE TO PRESERVE NEIGHBORHOOD CHARACTER, MAINTAIN THE STABILITY OF PERMANENT OWNER OCCUPIED RESIDENTS, AND AVOID THE REVOLVING DOOR OF STRANGERS THAT CAN CREATE SAFETY, SECURITY, AND QUALITY OF LIFE CONCERNS. RESIDENTS DESERVE TO KNOW WHO THEIR NEIGHBORS ARE. NOT WONDER WHO WILL BE STAYING NEXT DOOR FROM ONE DAY TO THE NEXT. THERE COULD BE HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE A YEAR ROTATING THROUGH JUST ONE SHORT TERM RENTAL HOUSE. THESE ARE REAL CONCERNS FOR THE PEOPLE OF BAYTOWN. NOW LET'S LOOK AT WHAT HAPPENED HERE IN BAYTOWN. THE COUNCIL DIRECTED PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT TO PREPARE A SHORT TERM RENTAL ORDINANCE. THE PROPOSAL THEY RETURNED ALLOWS SHORT TERM RENTALS IN RESIDENTIAL AND MIXED USE ZONING DISTRICTS, WHICH EFFECTIVELY MEANS THAT NEARLY EVERY HOUSE IN BAYTOWN COULD BECOME A SHORT TERM RENTAL. YES, EVEN NEXT DOOR TO EACH ONE OF YOU. EVERY MEMBER OF THIS COUNCIL VOTED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT PROPOSAL PROPOSAL EXCEPT MR. FRANCO WHO VOTED AGAINST IT. WHY WAS THE COMMERCIAL ZONING DISTRICT OMITTED AND NOT MADE THE PRIMARY LOCATION FOR SHORT TERM RENTALS? COMMERCIAL AREAS ARE WHERE THESE BUSINESSES ARE MOST APPROPRIATE, AND BAYTOWN ALREADY HAS SUCCESSFUL SHORT TERM RENTAL, OPERATING SHORT TERM RENTALS OPERATING IN COMMERCIAL ZONES. INSTEAD, YOU ARE BEING PRESENTED WITH A RUSHED AND POORLY PLANNED PROPOSAL. IT REFLECTS A LACK OF THOUGHTFUL ANALYSIS AND APPEARS TO BORROW PIECES OF OTHER CITIES ORDINANCES WHILE LEAVING OUT THE MONTHS OF RESEARCH, PUBLIC INPUT AND PLANNING THAT MADE THOSE OTHER CITIES POSSIBLE POLICIES SUCCESSFUL. THIS IS NOT RESPONSIBLE PLANNING. IT ALSO RAISES CONCERN ABOUT LEADERSHIP WITHIN PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT. THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE SUGGESTS A LACK OF COMMITMENT TO PROTECTING BAY TOWN'S NEIGHBORHOODS. DECISIONS OF THESE MAGNITUDES SHOULD BE MADE WITH LONG-TERM INTERESTS OF BAYTOWN RESIDENTS, NOT FOR THE CONVENIENCE OF PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT AND NOT TO BENEFIT OUTSIDERS. MEANWHILE, NEW BRAUNFELS HA WAS, HAS VERY RECENTLY WON THEIR COURT CASE TO PROHIBIT SHORT-TERM RENTALS AND RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS. AND I BELIEVE THAT THERE IS NO COURT RULING SUPREME COURT RULING IN TEXAS THAT SAYS THAT YOU CANNOT BAN SHORT-TERM RENTALS. OTHER COMMUN ANOTHER COMMUNITY NEAR BAYTOWN, HAS BEGUN THE SAME PROCESS TO PROHIBIT SHORT-TERM RENTALS IN RESIDENTIAL AREAS, WHILE OTHER CITIES IN TEXAS AND AROUND THE COUNTRY ARE WORKING TO PROTECT THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS. BAYTOWN IS MOVING IN THE OPPOSITE DIRECTION BY SIGNALING THAT SHORT-TERM RENTALS ARE WELCOME ALMOST ANYWHERE IN BAYTOWN. THIS IS NOT THE DIRECTION OUR RESIDENTS HAVE ASKED FOR, AND IT IS NOT THE DIRECTION BAYTOWN SHOULD TAKE. YOU HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO LEARN FROM THE OTHER CITIES AND TOWNS THAT ARE REVERSING THEIR WRONG DECISIONS. YOU CAN STOP IT NOW AND DO IT RIGHT, AND THAT IS TO VOTE NO SHORT-TERM RENTALS IN RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITIES. I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE AT THIS TIME, UM, AT THIS TIME I WOULD LIKE TO ASK ALL THE RESIDENTS IN THE AUDIENCE WHO OPPOSE SHORT-TERM RENTALS AND HAVE COME TO THIS MEETING, SHORT-TERM RENTALS IN THE RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD TO PLEASE STAND. OKAY, I BELIEVE. NOW LET ME MAKE SURE I GET EVERYBODY. WE HAVE COUNTRY CLUB OAKS THAT IS HERE. WE HAVE LAKEWOOD HERE. WE HAVE WHISPERING PINES THAT ARE HERE. WE HAVE EVERGREEN THAT [01:35:01] IS HERE. PINEHURST COUNTRY CLUB ESTATES COUNTRY CLUB MANOR ALLEN BROOK. DID I LEAVE ANYBODY OUT WHERE? LAW REFORM LA REFORM, PLUMWOOD, PLUMWOOD. ANY OTHERS? TANGLE WALL T WHERE? TANGLE WILD, TANGLE WILD DEL TIARA, DL ORA. WHERE ELSE? MR. KOWSKI? THAT'S PRETTY MUCH ALL OF THEM. THAT'S A LOT OF BA THAT IS A LOT IN A VERY SHORT TIME THAT WE WERE ABLE TO GET OUT THE INFORMATION AND YOU SEE WHAT YOUR RESULTS ARE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. NEXT WE HAVE, I DON'T KNOW, I THINK THIS IS JOSE MCMASTER. YEAH. BEFORE YOU GET STARTED, I'M GONNA ASK THAT YOU ADDRESS US AND NOT ADDRESS THE CROWD. EXCUSE ME. I'M SAYING I'M REMINDING EVERYONE TO ADDRESS COUNCIL AND NOT ADDRESS THE CROWD. I HAVE NO REASON TO ADDRESS THE CROWD. I DIDN'T SAY THAT YOU DID. I SAID I'M REMINDING EVERYONE. NO WORRIES, MAYOR. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. MY NAME IS HOPE MCMASTER. I LIVE AT 49 10 GOOSE CREEK DRIVE. UM, I HAVE HAD A LOT OF PEOPLE USING MY DRIVEWAY, MY AREA, TRESPASSING ON MY PROPERTY, DOING DAMAGE TO MY PROPERTY, ALL FROM AN AIRBNB THAT LITERALLY IS RIGHT NEXT DOOR TO ME. I HAVE A VERY LARGE AREA THAT I PARK. OKAY, WE HAVE A DOUBLE DRIVEWAY AND IT GOES UP INTO A PLATFORM, BUT IT'S TWO SEPARATE LOTS. I HAVE ASKED THEM MYSELF TO PLEASE QUIT DRIVING OVER ONTO MY SIDE TO PARK, BUT THAT IS CONSIDERED TRESPASSING. I HAVE TRIED TO DEAL WITH ALL THIS MYSELF. I HAVE SPENT PROBABLY WELL OVER $300 TRYING TO PREVENT DAMAGE AND DESTRUCTION TO MY PROPERTY DONE BY THIS STR, THIS SHORT TERM RENTAL. AND IT'S, IT'S, IT'S RIDICULOUS. I SHOULD NOT HAVE TO SPEND MY OWN MONEY TO FIX MY PROPERTY BECAUSE OF STRANGERS, BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE COMING IN, RUNNING THE PLACE AND DESTROYING MY STUFF, USING MY TRASH CAN, LEAVING GLASS AT THE END OF MY DRIVEWAY THAT I HAVE TO CLEAN UP TRASH IN MY YARD BECAUSE THEY CAN'T, I DON'T KNOW, CLOSE THE TRASH CAN LID OR NOT OVERFLOW IT OR I DON'T KNOW, USE THE RECYCLE BIN FOR A TRASH CAN. IT'S JUST, IT'S GETTING RIDICULOUS AND SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE DONE. IT NEEDS TO BE STOPPED. I HAVE TRIED TO CALL AND CONTACT THE OWNERS. I GOT, WE'RE NOT RESPONSIBLE IS THE ANSWER I GOT. WE'RE NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR WHAT THEY DO. WE'RE NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR THE DAMAGE THEY DO TO YOUR PROPERTY. WHO IS, WHO'S RESPONSIBLE? APPARENTLY ME, BECAUSE IT'S MY MONEY THAT'S COMING OUTTA MY POCKET TO FIX WHAT THEY'RE DOING TO US. AND IT'S, IT'S JUST GOTTA STOP. AND I'M ASKING FOR IT TO STOP. Y'ALL NEED TO BAN THESE FROM INSIDE OUR RESIDENTIAL AREAS. I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH 'EM BEING IN COMMERCIAL, BUT THEY NEED TO COME OUT OF THE RESIDENTIAL AREA BECAUSE THE MONEY'S COMING OUTTA THE RESIDENCE POCKET, NOT YOURS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. NEXT WE'LL HAVE MS. RANDY KING. GOOD EVENING. I'M RANDY KING. I LIVE AT 1 28 NORTH B BRUNETTE DRIVE IN BAYTOWN, TEXAS. I'VE LIVED IN LAKEWOOD FOR 38 YEARS. I'M ON THE BOARD OF THE LAKEWOOD CIVIC ASSOCIATION AND ALSO LAKEWOOD NEIGHBORHOOD WATCH. AND MOST OF ALL, I LOVE MY NEIGHBORHOOD. LAKEWOOD IS A QUIET NEIGHBORHOOD, A PLACE WHERE PEOPLE KNOW THEIR NEIGHBORS. A PLACE WHERE THE KIDS PLAY SAFELY IN THE STREET WHERE YOU CAN COUNT ON PEACE ON TUESDAY NIGHT. THEN SHORT TERM RENTALS COME IN AND THE BLOCK TURNS INTO A, A REVOLVING DOOR OF STRANGERS. THAT'S WHAT SHORT TERM RENTALS HAVE DONE TO RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITIES ACROSS THIS COUNTRY. AND IT'S TIME WE'VE PUT A STOP TO IT. SOME SAY THE ANSWER IS REGULATION, LIKE IT'S BEING CONSIDERED HERE TONIGHT. INSTEAD, I PROPOSE THAT WE BAN SHORT-TERM RENTALS. A PERMIT WITH ANNUAL FEES VERSUS SPECIAL USE PERMIT WILL MAKE IT EASIER FOR SHORT-TERM RENTALS TO OPERATE IN RESIDENTIAL AREAS AND BASIC OCCUPANCY STANDARDS WILL BE DIFFICULT TO ENFORCE. BY THE TIME A COMPLAINT MAY BE ADDRESSED TO THE RENTER, THE BY THE TIME A COMPLAINT MAY BE ADDRESSED, THE RENTER IS ALREADY LEFT FOR SOMEWHERE ELSE. AND REGULATIONS HAVEN'T STOPPED. UPTICK THAT OTHER CITIES HAVE SEEN OF INCREASED EMERGENCY CALLS FOR DRUNK AND DISORDERLY CONDUCT, LOUD MUSIC AND DISTURBANCES, THE VERY PROBLEMS REGULATIONS WE'RE SUPPOSED TO SOLVE. TAKE ALVESTON, WHICH HAS SPENT NEARLY A YEAR, CRAFTING A DETAILED ORDINANCE WITH A RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY. [01:40:01] OCCUPANCY TAXES AND EMERGENCY CONTACT REQUIREMENTS. THAT SOUNDS GREAT, RIGHT? BUT LOOK CLOSER. AND THAT SAME PATTERN SHOWS UP. THOSE EFFORTS DEMAND CONSTANT ENFORCEMENT STAFFING. MOST CITIES CAN'T SUSTAIN, I DON'T THINK BAYTOWN HAS IT. AND THEY NEVER ELIMINATE THE CORE CON CORE CONFLICT. A STRANGER OCCUPIED HOME OPERATING NEXT TO A FAMILY HOME, A PERMIT DOESN'T STOP THAT PARTY AT 2:00 AM A 24 HOUR CONTACT NUMBER DOESN'T ANSWER. WE NEED TO CHANGE WHAT'S GOING ON. LAKEWOOD'S LARGEST SUBDIVISION INSIDE THE CITY LIMITS. AND IT'S ALSO ONE OF THE SAFEST. BUT WE HAD THE GUNSHOT FATALITY ON THE FRONT LAWN OF US FOR TERM RENTAL. TRASH CANS STAY OVERFLOWING OUT BY THE STREET AND THE OWNERS LIVE IN NEVADA AND THEY'RE LESS THAN RESPONSIVE TO CONCERNS. IF REGULATIONS HAVEN'T ACTUALLY WORKED IN OTHER CITIES, THEN WHY DO WE THINK IT'S GONNA WORK HERE? BANNING SHORT-TERM RENTALS FROM RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS ISN'T EXTREME. IT'S ONLY FIXED THAT ACTUALLY WORKS. THANK YOU. MR. CHE FEES. IS CHET OUT THERE TO JET? MY NAME IS CHET THI. I LIVE AT TWO 11 POST OAK DRIVE. AND, UH, GOOD EVENING MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL. I'M HERE TONIGHT TO ASK A SIMPLE QUESTION. WHY ARE WE EVEN DISCUSSING THE POSSIBILITY OF ALLOWING SHORT-TERM RENTALS IN OUR, IN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS THAT ARE SPECIFICALLY ZONED FOR SINGLE FAMILY, RESIDENTIAL, YOUTH LIVING? WHERE IS THE OUTCRY FROM THESE INVESTORS THAT ARE OUT OF TOWN? VERY FEW OF 'EM HERE. I DON'T EVEN KNOW OF ANY, ARE HERE. I'M SURE THERE ARE. WHERE'S THAT OUTCRY? 'CAUSE SOMEBODY HAS TO BE SAYING, OH, WE NEED SHORT TERM RENTALS. I DON'T THINK THERE IS ONE. UH, THESE NEIGHBORHOODS WERE CREATED TO PROVIDE STABLE, SAFE, FAMILY ORIENTED COMMUNITIES. PEOPLE INVEST THEIR LIFE SAVINGS INTO HOMES WITH THE EXPECTATIONS THAT THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS WILL BE HOME NEIGHBORHOODS WILL BE HOME BUYERS OR LONG-TERM RESIDENCES WHO SHARE A COMMITMENT TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD. SHORT-TERM RENTALS FUNDAMENTALLY CHANGE THAT EXPECTATION. UH, A REVOLVING DOOR OF WEEKEND VISITORS IS NOT THE SAME AS HAVING NEIGHBORS WITH SHORT-TERM RENTALS COME AND INCREASED TRAFFIC, PARKING CONGESTION, LATE NIGHT NOISES, PARTIES LITTER, AND A LACK OF ABILITY, EXCUSE ME, ACCOUNTABILITY. WHEN GUESTS LEAVE AFTER A FEW DAYS, THEY HAVE LITTLE INCENTIVE TO RESPECT THE COMMUNITY OR MAINTAIN THE STANDARDS THAT PERMANENT, PERMANENT RESIDENTS WORK SO HARD TO UPHOLD. THERE ARE ALSO LEGITIMATE HEALTH AND SAFETY CONCERNS. EMERGENCY RESPONSE RESPONDERS OFTEN DON'T KNOW WHO IS STAYING IN THESE HOMES. OCCUPANCY LIMITS MAY AND PROBABLY GET EXCEEDED CURRENT. THEIR CURRENT FIRE HAZARDS. VISITORS ARE UNFAMILIAR WITH EVACUATION ROUTES, NEIGHBORHOOD SAFETY AND PROCEDURES, AND LOCAL REGULATIONS. SECURITY CAN, SECURITY CAN ALSO BECOME AN ISSUE WHEN ACCESS CODES ARE SHARED WITH NUMEROUS GUESTS OUTSIDE OF OUTSIDE THE YEAR, INCREASING OPPORTUNITIES FOR THEFT AND UNAUTHORIZED ENTRY BEYOND THESE CONCERNS, SHORT TERM RENTALS CAN NEGATIVELY AFFECT PROPERTY VALUES AND THE CHARACTER OF THE ESTABLISHED NEIGHBORHOODS. THEY REDUCED THE SUPPLY OF HOMES AVAILABLE FOR FAMILIES AND LONG-TERM RESIDENTS TO TO TURN RESIDENTS PROPERTIES INTO COMMERCIAL ENTERPRISES. A BUSINESS OPERATING IN THE MIDDLE OF A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD, STILL A BUSINESS REGARDLESS OF WHERE, WHETHER IT'S ADVERTISED THROUGH AN APP OR NOT. OUR ZONING LAWS EXIST FOR A REASON. THEY SEPARATE COMMERCIAL ACTIVITIES FROM RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS TO PROTECT THE HOMEOWNERS, THE QUALITY OF LIFE, AND PRESERVE THE INTEGRITY OF OUR COMMUNITIES. IF WE BEGIN MAKING EXCEPTIONS, WE UNDERMINE THE VERY PURPOSE OF SINGLE FAMILY ZONING AND THE TRUST THAT THE RESIDENTS PLACE IN IT. MAYOR, CAN I ASK FOR ONE MORE MINUTE? OKAY. UM, I NEED A MOTION. I MOTION TO YIELD. MR. THI WON THAT SECOND. THANK YOU, SIR. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES. THANK YOU. I'LL WRAP IT UP. I URGE YOU, MR. MAYOR AND COUNSEL, TO PROTECT THE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT YOU WERE ELECTED TO SERVE. PRESERVE THE INTENT OF OUR RESIDENTIAL ZONING. PUT PUT [01:45:01] HOMEOWNERS FAMILIES FROM LONG-TERM RESIDENCES AHEAD OF SPECIAL INTEREST GROUPS SEEKING TO PROFIT FROM OUR RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES. THE QUESTION SHOULD NOT BE HOW TO REGULATE SHORT TERM RENTALS IN SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOODS. THE QUESTION SHOULD BE, WHY WOULD WE CONSIDER ALLOWING THEM HERE IN THE FIRST PLACE? AND I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATIONS. IF I DO HAVE ONE, ONE MORE QUICK POINT IN REFERENCE TO SOMETHING THAT WAS SAID EARLIER, IN REFERENCE TO THE HISTORY OF OUR, UH, OUR ULDC ZONING. UH, IT WAS SAID THAT, UH, THAT WE DID NOT ADDRESS SHORT TERM RENTALS. AND THAT'S TRUE. WE DID NOT ADDRESS 'EM BY NAME. BUT IT IS TRUE THAT SHORT TERM RENTALS IS COMMERCIAL USE. IT'S INCOME PRODUCING. AND SO TO SAY THAT WE DIDN'T ADDRESS IT IS NOT TRUE. IT'S NOT ACCURATE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MS. LISA HUNT SINGER. TOUGH NIGHT GUYS. THIS IS ROUGH IN HERE TONIGHT. I WORK IN A REFINERY. I'M, I NEED YOUR ADDRESS. 4 5 1 1 ALAMANCE. THANK YOU. I WORK IN A POLYMER REFINERY ON DECKER. AND WHEN I'M PROCESSING PEOPLE'S PAPERWORK, I HAD A GENTLEMAN THAT WAS ON GLEN HAVEN AND I SAID, OH, IS THAT WHERE YOU AND YOUR FAMILY LIVE? AND HE SAID, NO, THERE'S SIX OTHER MEN THAT LIVE IN THE HOUSE AND THEY JUST PAY FOR THE WEEK. I GET EVERYBODY THAT OWNS PROPERTY THAT ARE LANDLORDS. EVERYBODY WANTS TO OWN ANOTHER PROPERTY. MAKE MONEY. I GET THAT. I, I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU GUYS ARE GONNA FIX ALL THIS. I, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE ANSWER IS, BUT HIRING PEOPLE THAT I KNOW THAT ARE LIVING IN COUNTRY CLUB OAKS, WHERE I USED TO LIVE ON HOMEWOOD, AND KNOWING THAT THERE'S SIX OR SEVEN MEN LIVING IN THAT HOUSE, THEY'RE PAYING RENT. HOW MANY CARS FIT IN THAT DRIVEWAY? THREE OR FOUR. AND WHERE ARE THE OTHER THREE OR FOUR? I'M A GRANDMOTHER AND I HAVE 13 GRANDCHILDREN. AND I LIKE TO RENT PLACES AND ALL OF US GO. SO I'M ALL ABOUT AIRBNBS. I'M ALL ABOUT RENTING A PLACE TO GO. BUT WHERE THE PLACES THAT I GO ARE NOT IN THE MIDDLE OF SOMEBODY'S NEIGHBORHOOD, I DON'T THINK ANYBODY IN COUNTRY CLUB OAKS OR ANYWHERE IN BAYTOWN SHOULD HAVE TO WORRY AT NIGHT ABOUT WHO'S OVER THERE AND WHAT ARE THEY DOING. WHEN I GET OFF WORK, I WANNA GO HOME AND BE AT MY HOME COMFORTABLE. I DON'T WANNA HAVE TO WORRY, WORRY WHO'S DOING WHAT IN THE HOUSE NEXT DOOR TO ME OR ACROSS THE STREET FROM ME OR ANYWHERE ELSE. I JUST DON'T THINK IT'S FAIR. AND ANY OF YOU THAT ARE FAMILIAR WITH COUNTRY CLUB OAKS KNOW THAT IT'S TAKEN A BIG NOSEDIVE AND THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE THERE HAVE PUT EVERYTHING THEY HAVE INTO THEIR HOMES, THEIR BIGGEST PURCHASE IN LIFE. AND I FEEL LIKE THEY SHOULD ALL BE ABLE TO GET THEIR MONEY BACK IF THEY CHOSE TO SELL IT. BUT THE WAY IT LOOKS RIGHT NOW, UM, WHAT ARE THE PROPERTY VALUES? WHO'S GONNA BUY YOUR HOUSE KNOWING THAT THAT'S WHAT'S GOING ON IN FRONT OF YOU OR BESIDE YOU? I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE ANSWER IS, BUT I KNOW WHAT WE'RE DOING IS NOT THE ANSWER. THANK YOU. SO DO WE HAVE ANY MORE COMMENTS FROM, UM, COUNSEL, QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? IF NOT, IS THAT RESPONSE? THAT'S EVERYONE. UM, SO THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING. DO WE HAVE ANY MORE QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? 'CAUSE IF NOT, WE'RE GONNA GO AHEAD AND TAKE A VOTE. PROBABLY HAVE SOME COMMENTS. LET'S GO. YEAH. UM, I, I APPRECIATE ALL OF Y'ALL THAT CAME OUT TO SPEAK. UM, THERE'S NOT AN EASY ANSWER ON THIS ONE, RIGHT? UM, NO, THERE'S NOT, THERE'S NOT. UM, FOR ME, UH, BECAUSE WHAT'S IMPORTANT TO ME IS STAYING CONSISTENT, UM, THROUGH ALL THE DIFFERENT VOTES THAT HAVE COME BEFORE US. UM, AND I LOOK BACK AT, I MEAN, WE'VE HAD REZONES THAT WE'VE APPROVED THAT THE MAJORITY OF, UH, CLOSE BY RESIDENTS DIDN'T, UM, WANT. WE'VE APPROVED THEM. UM, WE HAD THE, THE FIRST SUP THAT CAME TO US THAT WAS STILL APPROVED. UM, SO I I, FOR ME, I BELIEVE IN STAYING CONSISTENT. UM, AND ONE OF THE REASONS THAT I HAVE VOTED TYPICALLY TO APPROVE THOSE THINGS, UM, IS BECAUSE OF THE, THE RIGHTS OF PROPERTY OWNERS. UM, RIGHT. HOLD ON, MAYOR. NOW, UH, WE'VE ALREADY HAD CITIZEN COMMENT PORTION AND HE'S NOT ADDRESSING ANYONE SPECIFICALLY. SO PLEASE, LET'S LET COUNCIL MEMBERS FINISH [01:50:01] SPEAKING AND THEN SO WE CAN GET A VOTE. I'M ASKING THAT WE HAVE SOME DECORUM. NOW. YOU ALL WERE CLAPPING WHEN EVERYONE WAS GIVING THEIR SPEECHES, BUT WE'RE NOT GONNA BE INTERRUPTING COUNCIL MEMBERS WHENEVER THEY SPEAK. AND SO I ASK THAT WE ALL GIVE US THE SAME RESPECT THAT WE ALL GAVE YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MAYOR. UM, AS I WAS SAYING, I, I DO BELIEVE IN THE, THE RIGHTS OF PROPERTY OWNERS TO LEASE THEIR PROPERTY IF THAT'S WHAT THEY WANT TO DO. UM, I HAD A RENTAL NEXT TO ME FOR A COUPLE YEARS. IT WASN'T A SHORT TERM RENTAL. UM, IT, I WISH IT WAS SHORTER. UH, I DID NOT ENJOY THE, THE FOLKS THAT LIVE NEXT TO ME. UM, THEY ENJOYED THE, ENJOYED THROWING PARTIES. THEY WERE LOUD. UM, BUT I NEVER THOUGHT THAT WAS AN ISSUE THAT I NEEDED THE CITY TO FIX. UM, I BELIEVE THAT THE PERSON THAT OWNED THAT HOUSE HAD A RIGHT TO RENT IT OUT. UM, HE HAD BOUGHT IT SHORTLY BEFORE OR SHORTLY AFTER HARVEY. AND THEN, UH, YOU KNOW, A A JOB CHANGE, HAD HIM MOVE QUICKLY THEREAFTER, AND HE JUST COULDN'T SELL IT QUICKLY ENOUGH. UM, WAS GONNA TAKE A BATH ON IT. SO HE MADE IT A RENTAL. UH, AND I, I DIDN'T LIKE IT. UM, WHEN IT WENT UP FOR SALE, I SENT IT TO EVERYBODY I KNEW AND HOPED IT WOULD SELL VERY QUICKLY. UM, BUT AGAIN, I, I DIDN'T THINK THAT WAS, I NEVER THOUGHT THAT WAS AN ISSUE THE THE CITY NEEDED TO ADDRESS. IT WAS JUST THAT'S WHAT HE, HE CHOSE TO DO WITH HIS PROPERTY. UM, NOW THERE WERE MULTIPLE TIMES THAT THEY GOT LOUD AND RAMBUNCTIOUS. THERE WERE BROKEN BEER BOTTLES IN THE STREET, UM, AND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT RESPONDED. UM, AND SO I DO BELIEVE, YOU KNOW, IT, IT, THERE COULD BE THINGS THAT HAPPEN AT THESE PROPERTIES THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, ARE BREAKING THE LAW AND, AND WE HAVE A PROCESS ALREADY IN PLACE TO RESPOND TO THOSE THINGS. UM, GOD FORBID, I, I DON'T WANT, I DON'T, LIKE I SAID, I DON'T WANNA LIVE NEAR THOSE THINGS. I DON'T, BUT I UNDERSTAND THAT MY NEIGHBOR CAN DO AS THEY WISH, UM, FOR A LOT OF THE, THE, UM, CONCERNS THAT WERE BROUGHT UP. UM, ZONING, YOU KNOW, RUNNING A BUSINESS IN A, IN A A NEIGHBORHOOD, UM, I LOOKED ACROSS A LOT OF OUR NEIGHBORHOODS JUST ON GOOGLE MAPS, THE THINGS THAT SHOWED UP. I'M SURE THERE'S MORE IF YOU DO SOME KIND OF BUSINESS SEARCH, BUT WE HAVE A LOT OF BUSINESSES THAT RUN IN OUR, OUR NEIGHBORHOODS. UM, JUST A FEW OF, I SAW PRE-K ELECTRICAL SERVICES, TWO CLOTHING STORES, T-SHIRT DESIGN, ASSISTED LIVING, INSURANCE AGENT, REAL ESTATE APPRAISER, TANNING SALON. UM, THESE ARE ALL LIKE, GO TO GOOGLE MAPS. YOU CAN FIND ALL THESE BUSINESSES OPERATING IN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS. UM, AND, AND, AND AGAIN, TO ME, EVERY TIME I VOTE ON SOMETHING, I WANNA TRY TO BE CONSISTENT AS POSSIBLE. AND SO IF I'M GONNA BAN STR AND, AND CALL 'EM A BUSINESS AND SAY, I'M JUST GONNA BAN ALL BUSINESSES, THEN WE'VE GOT A LOT OF OTHER THINGS WE NEED TO VISIT, REVISIT, UM, INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE RUNNING BUSINESSES OUT OF THEIR HOMES. UM, AND SO, YEAH, I MEAN, ALL THOSE TO SAY, UH, I I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND THE CONCERNS. UM, I, I WOULD HAVE THE SAME CONCERNS LIVING CLOSE TO A RENTAL AS I DID. UM, BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, I, I STILL HAVE TO BALANCE THAT WITH THE RIGHTS OF A PROPERTY OWNER. UM, I THINK PUTTING THESE REGULATIONS IN PLACE IS A, IS A GOOD FIRST STEP. UM, RIGHT NOW WE HAVE NO CLUE HOW MANY ARE OUT THERE. UM, WE'VE HEARD OF THE ISSUES THAT SOME HAVE CAUSED. SOME PROBABLY HAVEN'T CAUSED ANY ISSUES AT ALL. UM, I MEAN, WE'RE NOT MAKING IT EASIER FOR THEM TO EXIST, I DON'T THINK. I BELIEVE WE'RE ADDING REGULATIONS WE'RE THEY HAVE TO COME GET A PERMIT AT LEAST THEN WE'RE AWARE OF WHERE THEY, WHERE THEY ARE. UM, THERE'S PARKING REQUIREMENTS, THERE'S MAXIMUM OCCUPANCY REQUIREMENTS. UM, AND, AND SO THERE'S OTHER, UM, REGULATIONS WE'RE PUTTING IN PLACE. I THINK PART OF THAT, PART OF THIS IS THERE'S BEEN, I I GUESS A MISUNDERSTANDING THAT WE'RE LIKE OPENING THE DOOR, YOU KNOW, CALLING ON SHORT TERM RENTALS TO COME INTO TOWN. I MEAN, I JUST DON'T SEE IT THAT WAY. I BELIEVE THAT WE'RE, WE'RE ADDING REGULATION AT LEAST TO HELP US GET A HANDLE ON, ON WHAT WE HAVE. UM, AND JUST LIKE WE DO ON SO MANY OTHER, UH, ORDINANCES, WE SEE HOW IT GOES FOR A WHILE AND WE COME BACK AND REVISIT IT. AND I SUSPECT WE CAN DO THE SAME THING. UM, WE'VE, WE'VE CHANGED CODE BEFORE, RIGHT, MARTIN? UM, AND SO I THINK, I THINK THIS IS A GOOD FIRST STEP. UM, AND I THINK WE CAN SEE, UH, YOU KNOW, HOW IT GOES FROM THIS POINT. AND WE CAN ALWAYS ADJUST IT IN THE FUTURE IF WE NEED TO. UM, SO [01:55:01] I DO WANT, I WANNA THANK YOU MARTIN, YOU AND YOUR TEAM, UM, FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP ON THIS ITEM. UM, I KNOW IT'S BEEN A PROCESS. IT'S COME TO US MULTIPLE TIMES AND SO I, I APPRECIATE YOUR WORK ON IT. THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE? YES, SIR. MY MIC'S NOT WORKING. SO THERE IT IS. UM, I HEARD A LOT FROM BOTH SIDES ON THIS. I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE HERE ON ONE SINGLE SIDE. I, AND THE CONCLUSION I, I'M, I'M COMING TO IS, UH, I DON'T KNOW IF THE REGULATIONS NECESSARILY BENEFIT EITHER SIDE. UM, I'VE HEARD THOSE WHO OWN, WHO ACTUALLY OWN SDR, WHO, AND MANY OF 'EM LIVE IN BAYTOWN. UM, NOT, NOT EVERYBODY WHO OWNS SDR DOES NOT LIVE IN, YOU KNOW, DOES NOT LIVE HERE. UM, MANY OF 'EM DO. UM, THEY SAY THE THE REGULATIONS ARE TOO STRICT, UM, ON THIS SIDE. MANY OF YOU SAY THAT, UM, YOU WANT A BAN. UM, SO WHERE'S THE END GROUND? SO FOR ME, YOU KNOW, OTHER, I'M, I'M COMFORTABLE DE WITH DENYING THE REGULATIONS AND JUST GOING WITH THE SUP WE HAVE, HOWEVER, IF WE'RE GONNA MAKE AMENDMENTS WITH THE THIRD OPTION, THEN I THINK THERE NEEDS TO BE FURTHER DISCUSSION TO MR. JANOWSKIS POINT TO HAVE A DEEPER AND LOWER DISCUSSION INVOLVED WITH BOTH SIDES OF THE CONVERSATION TO WHERE, UM, EVERYONE'S VOICES ARE, ARE HEARD AND UNDERSTOOD. SO, UN UNLESS, AND, UH, UNLESS WE'RE, UH, NOT GONNA ADOPT THESE REGULATIONS, I WOULD LIKE TO LIKE TABLE THIS AND REALLY TAKE, TAKE MORE TIME TO REALLY THINK ABOUT WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE. UM, AND TO MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, ALL PERSPECTIVES ARE HEARD. YOU KNOW, I HEARD THINGS ABOUT DEED RESTRICTIONS. WE DON'T, WE DON'T FORCE YOUR DEED, WE DON'T IMPOSE YOUR DEED RESTRICTION. JUST LIKE YOU DON'T WANT YOUR NEIGHBORS TO, YOU KNOW, FORCE YOUR, YOU KNOW, THEIR, WHAT THEY'RE DOING AND THEIR RESIDENTIALS ON YOU. THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO BOUGHT THEIR HOMES IN CERTAIN PARTS OF TOWN KNOWING THAT THERE WERE NO DEED RESTRICTIONS, KNOWING THAT, THAT THEIR DEED RESTRICTIONS WON'T BE OPPOSED ON, ON ON THEM. AND THAT'S WHY THEY MOVED THERE. 'CAUSE THEY DIDN'T WANT TO DEAL WITH DEED DEED RESTRICTIONS. SO THERE'S THAT TO CONSIDER AS WELL. UM, BOTTOM LINE, I, IF, IF, UM, BOTTOM LINE IS I DON'T FEEL COMFORTABLE APPROVING THESE REGULATIONS, AND IF WE'RE NOT GONNA OPT BACK TO THE SUP, WE NEED TO TAKE A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME ON THE THIRD OPTION AND MAKE AN AMENDMENTS TO PROPOSING REGULATIONS A LOT MORE TIME. ANYONE ELSE? YES, MA'AM. UM, THANK YOU ALL FOR COMING. AND UM, YOU KNOW, I, I THINK FROM WHAT I HEARD FROM Y'ALL AND WHAT I'VE HEARD WITHIN MY COMMUNITY, UH, I, I, I FEEL LIKE YOU, THAT WE'VE HEARD FROM BOTH SIDES. THEY, THE OTHER SIDE MAY NOT BE HERE, BUT THEY HAVE VOICED, UM, THEIR OPINION AND, YOU KNOW, I'M, I'M HAVING TO AGREE WITH COUNCIL MEMBER, UH, POWELL AS WELL. UM, BUT YOU KNOW, WHEN, WHEN YOU LOOK AT IT, UH, A RENTAL HOME IS ALSO A BUSINESS. I MEAN, YOU COULD RENT IT FOR A YEAR. SOME PEOPLE MOVE OUT IN SIX MONTHS. YOU JUST DON'T KNOW, UH, THE LIFE OF AN INDIVIDUAL, LIFE OF A FAMILY. THEY THINK THEY'RE GONNA BE THERE FOR THE LONG RUN AND THEY'RE GONNA END UP HAVING TO LEAVE AFTER SIX MONTHS. SO PEOPLE MAKE IT A BUSINESS AND THEY HAVE BOUGHT MULTIPLE HOMES. I HAVE SOME OF THOSE IN, IN MY DISTRICT WHERE THERE'S ONE LANDOWNER AND OR ONE LANDLORD AND HE HAS 3, 4, 5 PROPERTIES THROUGHOUT THE, THE, THE CITY. AND THAT IS HIS BUSINESS. UM, AND SO FOR ME, I, I DON'T WANNA DELAY THE VOTE, I WANNA MOVE FORWARD WITH IT TODAY. WE HAVE HAD PUBLIC INPUT THROUGH PLANNING AND ZONING, UH, THE NUMBER OF MEETINGS THAT WE'VE HAD. SO I THINK THAT WE'VE HAD SUFFICIENT, UM, PEOPLE HAVE WRITTEN US, PEOPLE HAVE EMAILED. UM, AND UH, I THINK THAT, UH, WE'VE PROBABLY SPENT MORE ON THIS THAN SOME OF THE OTHER ISSUES THAT HAVE COME UP. THAT MAY NOT SEEM LIKE IT, BUT IT HAS. UM, IF THERE ARE ANY AMENDMENTS, PERHAPS WHAT WE COULD DO IS, YOU KNOW, ENSURE THAT THE, THE OWNER, AND I [02:00:01] DON'T REMEMBER IF THIS IS ONE OF THE, THE ITEMS THAT WE HAD, IS THAT THERE ARE CAMERAS ON LOCATION, UM, TO ENSURE THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT ARE IN THAT HOME. UM, MY FAMILY HAS RENTED, UM, BEACH HOUSES AND THEY HAVE CAMERAS AND THEY DO WATCH THOSE CAMERAS. ONE TIME MY BROTHER INVITED HIS FRIEND AND MY BROTHER, MY OTHER BROTHER WHO RENTED THE HOUSE, GOT A PHONE CALL FROM THE OWNER. YOU HAVE AN EXTRA PERSON THERE, THEY NEED TO GO. UM, SO WHETHER IT'S CAMERAS, WHETHER IF, YOU KNOW, I KNOW THAT WE HAVE, UM, UH, SOMETHING, A REGULATION ON THEIRS THAT IF THEY VIOLATE SOMETHING THEN, YOU KNOW, THEY CAN'T RENT FOR A CERTAIN NUMBER OF TIMES. BUT IF THEY HAVE VIOLATED AND IF THEY HAVE BEEN SUSPENDED FOR WHATEVER, TWO, THREE TIMES, THEN COULD WE THEN OUTRIGHT SAY, YOU CAN NO LONGER BE AN STRA RENTAL. UM, SO THERE ARE OPTIONS. I'M AT LEAST TRYING TO MEET IN THE MIDDLE. UM, IF, IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT Y'ALL WOULD WANT TO CONSIDER, UM, THEN WE CAN DO THAT OR WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH THE, UM, POLICY SET FORWARD TO HAVE A THIRD PARTY, UM, REGULATE OUR STR. ANYONE ELSE IS THE YOUNGEST. I I'LL ROUND, I'LL ROUND IT UP. UM, I GOTCHA. WOW. UM, I'VE HEARD LOUD AND CLEAR. I HAVE SEVERAL OF MY CONSTITUENTS IN THE, IN THE CROWD TONIGHT, AND I HEARD LOUD AND CLEAR THAT THERE, THERE'S LEGITIMATE CONCERNS. I AGREE WITH MY COLLEAGUES THAT THE PROPOSED REGULATIONS DO NOT MAKE IT SIMPLER OR EASIER TO HAVE, UH, SHORT TERM RENTALS. AND, AND I APPRECIATED MS. JANOWSKIS COMMENTS AS FAR AS THE OTHER CITIES THAT PASSED BANS. THEY DID A, THEY SPENT A LOT OF TIME REVIEWING, LOOKING AT DATA, GETTING STATISTICS IN, IN REALLY RESEARCHING IT. AND WE HAVEN'T DONE THAT. SO, BUT I DON'T WANT TO SPEND THE NEXT TWO YEARS WITH THE PROCESS AS IT IS NOW BECAUSE I'VE HEARD LOUD AND CLEAR THAT THE CURRENT PROCESS IS OUTTA HAND. SO THE CURRENT REGULATIONS DO ADD MORE RESTRICTIONS. I HEARD ONE OF THE COMMENTS WAS, YOU KNOW, WELL SOME OF THESE HOUSES HAVE BEEN MODIFIED INSIDE. SO THEY HAVE, YOU KNOW, THAT WAS ORIGINALLY A THREE BEDROOM HOUSE. NOW IT'S AN EIGHT BEDROOM HOUSE. ONE OF THE REQUIREMENTS IS AN INSPECTION FROM BUILDING INSPECTIONS AND THE FIRE MARSHAL'S OFFICE, THAT'S NOT GONNA PASS. SO THEY WOULD HAVE TO GO BACK TO A THREE BEDROOM HOUSE. SO THEY WOULD BE LIMITED TO THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE THERE. IT ALSO HAS RESTRICTIONS ON PARKING. I'VE HEARD THAT THAT'S SOMETHING WE DISCUSSED IN, IN SIGNIFICANT DETAIL, THE PARKING ISSUE. AND, AND, AND I HEAR LOUD AND CLEAR, WELL, THERE COULD BE 6, 8, 10, 10 CARS, AND I'LL PICK ON ONE OF MY NEIGHBORS. MY NEWEST NEIGHBOR JUST MOVED IN AND SHE'S GOT THREE ADULT KIDS AND ONE OF THEM HAS TWO ADULT KIDS. AND ALL OF A SUDDEN IT WENT FROM A THREE CAR HOME TO, THERE'S LIKE SIX OR SEVEN CARS THERE EVERY DAY. BUT THAT'S THEIR FAMILY. SO, BUT WE HAVE PARKING RESTRICTIONS IN THIS ENFORCEMENT PROCESS. YES, IT WOULD BE THE ONES OR TWOS OUT THERE THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO GO INTO ENFORCEMENT. AND THERE'S PUNITIVE ACTIONS. IF THEY'RE NON-COMPLIANT AND THEY GET CITED SEVERAL TIMES IN A GIVEN 12 MONTH PERIOD, THEY LOSE THE ABILITY TO HAVE THEIR SHORT-TERM RENTAL FOR, I THINK IT'S A YEAR. THEY LOSE THEIR PERMIT SO THEY WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO OPERATE. SO THE BAD CHARACTERS CAN BE WEEDED OUT. AND THEN I HAD INITIAL QUESTIONS, WELL, HOW MANY DO WE REALLY HAVE IN TOWN? NOBODY HAS YET TO GIVE ME A NUMBER. WHERE ARE THEY LOCATED? ARE THERE CONCENTRATED AREAS OR ARE THEY SCATTERED? I DON'T KNOW. AND THEN THE ACTUAL NUMBER OF COMPLAINTS ON SHORT TERM RENTALS. WE HAVE THE ANECDOTALS THAT WE HAVE SOME THAT, YEAH, I LIVE NEXT DOOR TO ONE I COMPLAINT ALL THE TIME, BUT WE DON'T HAVE COMPLAINTS. THIS PROPOSAL WOULD ALLOW US TO GATHER THAT DATA AND HAVE SOME RESTRICTIONS FOR THE NEXT YEAR OR SO. I THINK THIS COUNCIL HAS MADE IT CLEAR THAT THEY'RE WILLING TO LOOK AT, OKAY, WELL LET'S TRY THIS. AND IF IT'S NOT WORKING, LET'S SAY EIGHT MONTHS FROM NOW, WE GET IT BACK THAT WE HAVE, AND I'M JUST PICKING NUMBERS FOLKS, WE HAVE A HUNDRED SDRS IN TOWN. WE GET 10 COMPLAINTS A WEEK SCATTERED ACROSS TOWN. YOU KNOW, THAT'S, AND IT'S TAKEN 300 HOURS OR TWO PEOPLE TO ENFORCE IT. THIS COUNCIL WILL PROBABLY GO, OKAY, THAT'S ENOUGH. LET'S LOOK AT A BAN. BUT WHEN YOU BAN SOMETHING THAT'S, THAT'S A BIG LEAP FROM JUST ENFORCING REGULATIONS TO BANNING. AND, AND, AND I HAD AN INDIVIDUAL TALK TO ME TODAY THAT THEY WERE VERY CLEAR [02:05:01] THAT THEY DON'T LIKE THE IDEA OF SHORT TERM RENTALS, BUT YOU BETTER NOT TELL ME WHAT TO DO WITH MY PROPERTY. SO PROPERTY RIGHTS ARE IMPORTANT AND BEFORE WE GO TO A BAN AND STEP ON SOMEBODY ELSE'S PROPERTY RIGHTS, RIGHT, YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKE IF I LOOK NEXT DOOR TO THIS, I WANT YOU TO STEP ON HIS PROPERTY RIGHTS. BUT BEFORE WE DO THAT AS A COUNCIL, BEFORE WE TAKE ACTION, WE BETTER KNOW IT'S A REAL PROBLEM AND NOT A PERCEIVED PROBLEM. AND I UNDERSTAND THERE'S SEVERAL INCIDENTS OUT HERE THAT IT'S A REAL ISSUE FOR THOSE INDIVIDUALS, BUT NOT FOR A HUNDRED OR 150. I DON'T KNOW. THAT'S THE POINT. THIS ORDINANCE, THIS PROPOSED ORDINANCE WOULD ALLOW US TO START COLLECTING THAT DATA. AND IF WE SEE THAT THERE'S A REAL ISSUE OUT THERE, I HAVE NO DOUBT THIS COUNCIL WILL TAKE ACTION. BUT TO JUST BAN SOMETHING FOLKS, THAT, THAT'S A SLIPPERY SLOPE, SLIPPERY SLOPE THAT WE'RE GETTING ON REAL QUICK. 'CAUSE WHAT'S NEXT? WE'RE GONNA BAN LONG-TERM RENTALS. LET'S BAN APARTMENT COMPLEXES, LET'S BAN PURPLE CARS. YOU KNOW, SO AGAIN, EVERYBODY GOES, THAT'S RIDICULOUS. IT IS RIDICULOUS, BUT WE HAVE TO BE CAUTIOUS. SO THAT'S, THAT WOULD BE MY, YOU KNOW, ISSUE IS LIKE PARTY WEEKENDS AND STUFF LIKE THAT. PD RESPONDS TO IT, WHETHER IT'S A SHORT-TERM RENTAL, LONG-TERM RENTAL, OR WHETHER IT'S A LIFELONG RESIDENT. UM, THEY RESPOND TO THOSE. SO I, I WOULD SUPPORT THE, AND AGAIN, I AGREE, I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO DELAY. WE NEED TO GET THIS SO WE GET SOME NUMBERS AND DATA IN FRONT OF US. AND, YOU KNOW, I DON'T WANNA SIT THE NEXT YEAR DISCUSSING IT. I WANT TO TAKE SOME ACTION. IF WE NEED TO COME BACK IN SIX MONTHS, WE START SEEING A, A NEGATIVE TREND. WE, BELIEVE ME, WE GET PHONE CALLS, BOTH SIDES OF EVERY ISSUE. WE'LL BE VISITING WITH CITY MANAGER TO BRING THIS BACK AND EITHER TIGHTEN IT UP OR LOOK AT TAKING DEFINITIVE ACTION AT THAT POINT IN TIME. BUT I WOULD SUPPORT THE CURRENT PROPOSAL AS IT IS JUST SO THAT WE CAN MOVE FORWARD AND, AND LET'S GET IT RESOLVED. MR. PRECO, I APPRECIATE EVERYBODY COMING OUT AND I, AND I APPRECIATE ALL MY COLLEAGUES AND I, AND I APPRECIATE WHERE YOU'RE STANDING. I APPRECIATE THAT YOU, THAT THE DATA IS VERY IMPORTANT. IT, IT, IT, IT IS VERY IMPORTANT. YOU KNOW, AND LOOKING AT IT, I I UNDERSTAND HOW WE TALKED ABOUT THAT. IT'S SOMETHING I THOUGHT ABOUT AFTERWARDS THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S THE HOT TAX THING, RIGHT? YOU'RE LOSE AN $80,000 IN HOT TAX. NO, WE'RE NOT. IT'S ACTUALLY GONNA GO RUN A HOTEL. SO WE'RE STILL GETTING HOT TAX. THAT'S KIND OF A, A WASH ON THAT ONE. BUT, UM, I THINK EVERYBODY KNOWS KIND OF WHERE I STAND AND HOW I, HOW I FEEL ABOUT THIS. UH, IT, IT IS A VERY DIFFICULT DECISION. IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO, TO, TO LOOK AT PEOPLE'S RIGHTS. AND, AND I, I KIND OF GO, HEY, YOU KNOW, IN THE NINETIES WE STOPPED, WE, WE BANNED PEOPLE FROM SMOKING IN RESTAURANTS, RIGHT? IT, IT, IT'S WHERE'S YOUR RIGHTS GOING AND WHERE'S THE RIGHTS OF OTHERS? AND, AND IT'S VERY DIFFICULT. AND, AND IT'S VERY DIFFICULT FOR ALL OF US UP HERE ON COUNCIL, FOR EVERYBODY HERE TO MAKE THIS DECISION. AND I, I, I DO GIVE KUDA THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE, THEY'RE TR THAT WE'RE TRYING TO GO AS STRONG AS WE CAN IN THESE REGULATIONS AND BEING AS STRICT AS WE CAN. AND, AND I APPRECIATE MR. TAYLOR'S COMMENT FROM BURNETT THAT, HEY, MAYBE GO TO A WEEK, UH, JUST SOMETHING TO, TO STOP, STOP THESE THINGS. UH, BUT I THINK EVERYBODY KNOWS HOW I FEEL, UH, WHICH WAY I'M GOING TO, I WOULD, I, I WANNA LEAN, BUT I, I, I, I, I FEEL FOR OTHER HOMEOWNERS, I UNDERSTAND IT. AND FOR ME, LIKE I SAID, I LOOKED UP IN MY DISTRICT, THERE'S SEVEN THAT I FOUND THAT ARE RENTING, FIVE OF 'EM WERE OWNED BY LLCS. TWO OF 'EM WERE PRIVATE. SO FOR ME, I, I UNDERSTAND THAT'S A BUSINESS AND IT'S, IT'S VERY, IT'S FOR ME, I'M, I'M LOOKING AT THE ONES THAT WE SAID THAT, THAT, THAT ARE, THAT ARE, HAVE, HAVE WINDOW UNITS IN THEIR THINGS. THEY DIDN'T GET PERMITS FOR THAT I'M TELLING YOU RIGHT NOW. RIGHT. THAT'S NOT ALLOWED. SO, UH, WE CAN ALSO ATTACK THOSE AND GO, HEY, YOU KNOW WHAT? YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO RE REAPPLY FOR PERMITS FOR ALL THIS STUFF. SO THERE'S THINGS THAT ARE, THEY'RE GONNA GO THROUGH. BUT FOR ME, I WOULD, I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO BE HAVING SHORT TERM RENTALS AT THIS TIME UNTIL WE CAN DEFINITIVELY DECIDE HOW THIS IS GONNA BE MAINTAINED, HOW THIS WOULD BE REGULATED, BECAUSE WE'RE IN THAT REPORT, RIGHT? IF YOU, IF YOU, IF YOU PUT REGULATIONS, YOU'RE GONNA GO THROUGH THE COURT PROCESS. IF YOU BAN 'EM, YOU'RE GOING THROUGH THE COURT PROCESS. IT'S THE SAME THING. IT'S NO DIFFERENCE. WE CAN SAY WHICHEVER WAY IT IS. BUT I, I, I APPRECIATE EVERYBODY TRYING, PUTTING THE STRICTEST REGULATIONS, AND I APPRECIATE EVERYBODY'S, EVERYBODY'S STANCE ON THIS. AND I UNDERSTAND IT. AND, AND I APPRECIATE ALL Y'ALL COMING OUT AND SPEAKING ON THIS. IT, IT, IT IS VERY DIFFICULT FOR THIS COUNCIL. IT'S VERY DIFFICULT. AND KNOW THAT WHICHEVER WAY IT GOES, IT'S, IT'S DIFFICULT. UH, BUT I, I, I'M, I'M ALL, I, I'M NOT IN FAVOR OF IT AND I'M IN, EVERYBODY KNOWS HOW I STAND. I, I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD HAVE SHORT TERM RENTALS IN BAYTOWN. I THINK WE SHOULD BE IN, SO IF I APOLOGIZE. I APOLOGIZE, MA'AM. I CAN'T. I APOLOGIZE, MA'AM. I, I CAN'T MAKE COMMENTS AT [02:10:01] THIS RIGHT NOW. WE CAN TALK AFTERWARDS. UH, BUT THERE IS A QUORUM. WE HAVE TO, I, I, I REALLY DO APOLOGIZE ABOUT THAT, MA'AM. BUT WE, WE TRY TO PLEASE TRY TO BE, BE RESPECTFUL OF EVERYBODY UP HERE, UH, AND ALL THOSE WHO MAKE, WHO, WHO ARE ACCOMMODATING. SO, UM, THAT'S ALL I CAN SAY RIGHT NOW. EVERYBODY KNOWS I'M, I'M IN WHERE I STAND AND WHERE I'M IN FAVOR OF. SO WE'RE GONNA GO AHEAD AND GET READY TO VOTE. UM, I DO APPRECIATE EVERYONE COMING OUT TODAY. THIS IS PROBABLY THE MOST PEOPLE WE'VE SEEN IN COUNCIL CHAMBERS THIS YEAR. AND WE ALWAYS SAY WE WANT PEOPLE TO BE ACTIVE. WE WANT PEOPLE TO SHOW UP AND LET US KNOW WHAT THEY THINK. WE WANT PEOPLE TO TEXT, CALL, EMAIL US. AND WE'VE RECEIVED ALL FORMS OF COMMUNICATION. SO THANK YOU FOR THAT. UM, AFTER LISTENING TO MY COLLEAGUES AND EVERYONE HERE, I'M GOING TO SAY THAT PROPERTY OWNER'S RIGHTS ARE VERY IMPORTANT. IF WE START THAT SLIPPERY SLOPE OF STEPPING ON THEM, THEN WHERE DO WE STOP ON THE FLIP SIDE OF THAT, UM, W WE DON'T LIKE BEING INCONVENIENCED BY OUR NEIGHBORS. WHEN YOU START DOING THINGS THAT AFFECT ME AND MY HOME OUTSIDE OF MY HOME, I'M GONNA HAVE SOME CONCERN. AND THAT'S WHY WE HAVE OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT, OUR POLICE OFFICERS, OUR PARAMEDICS, FOR WHEN THOSE THINGS HAPPEN. UM, WE ARE NOT HERE TO VOTE ON BANNING SHORT-TERM RENTALS TONIGHT. AM I CORRECT? CORRECT. THE DRAFT ORDINANCE IS NOT A BAN. THAT'S RIGHT. LONG SHORT TERM RENTALS. OKAY. SO THE DRAFT ORDINANCE IS MAKING A, EITHER MAKING AMENDMENTS OR DOING OR TO THE SUP AND MOVING FORWARD WITH IT. AM I CORRECT ON THAT? UH, THE, I I DON'T WANNA STEP ON MR. SCRIBNER'S TOES, BUT THE, THE DRAFT AMENDMENT, UM, PLACES REGULATIONS ON SHORT TERM RENTALS, IT DOES NOT BAN THEM. AND IT DOES TAKE THE PLACE OF THE SUP PROCESS. NO, YOU HAVE, BUT I THINK MR. SCRIBNER CAN PROBABLY SAY A LITTLE BIT MORE ELOQUENTLY. BUT, BUT THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO CLARIFY, BECAUSE PEOPLE WERE THINKING WE WERE VOTING ON WHETHER WE WERE GONNA BAN THEM OR NOT. THAT'S NOT WHAT WE, THAT'S NOT WHAT THIS WAS ABOUT TONIGHT. THAT'S NOT WHAT THIS AGENDA ITEM IS ABOUT. IT IS NOT ABOUT BANNING ST ULTIMATELY MAYOR. I THINK THAT STAFF HAS TRIED TO CRAFT AN ORDINANCE MM-HMM . THAT MET THE NEEDS OF COUNCIL AND MET THE NEEDS OF, OF THOSE THAT WE HEARD FROM DURING THOSE, UM, HALF A DOZEN MEETINGS OR SO THAT WE'VE HELD OVER THE LAST FEW MONTHS. YEAH. ULTIMATELY WE CAN CRAFT, I MEAN, IF IT, IF IT NEEDS CHANGES IN YOUR EYES, YOU CAN MAKE CERTAIN MINOR CHANGES TO IT TONIGHT. BUT, UM, IF IT GETS ANY MORE, UH, I THINK ANY MORE DETAILED OR COMPLICATED THAN WE WOULD WANT TO TAKE IT BACK AND REWORK IT. BUT, UM, UM, STAFF STANDS BEHIND WHAT'S IN FRONT OF YOU. I WANNA MAKE SURE TOO, THAT, UM, IF ANYBODY TOOK FROM MY PREVIOUS COMMENTS THAT ENFORCEMENT WAS NOT AN OPTION, THAT THAT'S, I DIDN'T MEAN TO GIVE THAT IMPRESSION. IT, IT WILL BE MORE COMPLICATED AND, AND IT WILL TAKE STAFF TIME, BUT IT CAN BE DONE IN EITHER CASE. SO, UM, BUT ULTIMATELY, AGAIN, WE'RE, WE'RE HERE TO, TO PUT TOGETHER WHATEVER, WHATEVER CITY COUNCIL IS, IS LOOKING FOR. GOT YOU. UM, I THINK THERE ARE SOME MORE THINGS THAT WE COULD DO. UM, MAKING IT, MAKING SURE THAT IT'S A LONGER TERM RENTAL INSTEAD OF ONE DAY. I'VE HEARD MANY TIMES THE SUGGESTION OF MAKING IT A WEEK OR MORE TO, TO, UM, TO LESSEN THE OPPORTUNITY FOR SOMEONE TO COME IN AND RENT IT, JUST TO HAVE A PARTY. UM, THERE'S NO TELLING HOW MANY MORE WE HAVE IN THIS CITY. 'CAUSE I THINK YOU TOLD THE STORY OF SOMETHING NOT BEING, NOT BEING LISTED, RIGHT? YEAH. THERE'S SOME THAT ARE NOT. YEAH. SO WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE NOT GONNA CORRAL ALL OF THOSE, BUT WE CAN TRY TO REGULATE, LIKE WE'RE TRYING TO DO THE ONES THAT WE KNOW ABOUT. AND HOPEFULLY IT WILL DISCOURAGE THOSE WANTING TO COME IN WHO ARE WANTING TO WORK UNDERCOVER. 'CAUSE IF THEY'RE FOUND OUT, THEY'RE GONNA BE CITED FOR IT. SO, UM, I THINK WE'RE READY TO VOTE. DO Y'ALL WANNA MAKE ANY AMENDMENTS TO THIS? NO. THANK YOU. NO MO OKAY. MM-HMM . I'D LIKE TO, SO I NEED, SORRY, I'D LIKE TO INCREASE THE FEES. THAT'S NEXT. NEXT, NEXT. THAT'S RIGHT. SORRY. MY BAD. I FORGOT [02:15:01] ABOUT THAT. SO I NEED A MOTION. WHAT'S THE ITEM NUMBER? MAKE A MOTION. WE APPROVE ITEM EIGHT. B SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? NAY. SO, MR. BOARD THREE, DIDN'T, DID YOU VOTE? FOUR THREE PASSED? I THOUGHT THE VOTE WAS SUPPOSED TO BE TO, DID THE VOTE WAS TO, WELL, I'M TALKING ABOUT YOUR LIST ON YOUR BOARDS. THAT WAS STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION. YEAH, THAT WAS WHAT WE VOTED ON, WAS ON STAFF RECOMME. WHAT YOU SEE UP ON THE BOARD IS STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS. YES. GO BACK TO THIS SLIDE. WHICH ONE? CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE SECOND SLIDE WHERE THE BOOK REGULATIONS ARE? THAT'S WHAT THEY VOTE. THAT'S WHAT COUNCIL VOTED THIS. YEAH, THAT RIGHT THERE IS WHAT WE VOTED ON. NOW WE ARE ON [c. Consider an ordinance to adopt a fee for residential short-term rentals.] TO EIGHT C. CONSIDER AN ORDINANCE TO ADOPT A FEE FOR RESIDENTIAL SHORT TERM RENTALS. MR. MR. SCRIBNER. UM, THANK YOU MAYOR AND COUNSEL. SO, UM, THE A AGAIN, THE IDEA OF, UM, HOW THIS IS GOING TO WORK MOVING FORWARD, IS THAT A THIRD PARTY, UM, A THIRD PARTY CONSULTANT WILL LIKELY BE CONTRACTED IN ORDER TO, UM, HELP GET THIS UNDERWAY, HELP ADMINISTER THE PROGRAM, HELP ENFORCE THE PROGRAM, UM, WITH WE BELIEVE SO. WE, WE HAVE NOT PUT IN AN RFP YET FOR THAT. WE, THAT'LL BE OUR NEXT STEP. I, I CANNOT HEAR HIM OVER OTHER PEOPLE TALKING. IT IS VERY DIFFICULT FOR ME TO HEAR WITH ALL THE OTHER TALKING GOING ON. CAN WE KEEP ALL TALKING DOWN WHILE MR. SCRIBNER'S TALKING, PLEASE? THANK YOU. UM, SO, UH, AS WE'VE LOOKED INTO, UM, CONTRACTING WITH A THIRD PARTY TO GO AHEAD AND DO THE ADMINISTRATION AND THE ENFORCEMENT OF THE NEW REGULATIONS, UM, THAT IS GOING TO COME AT A COST, THAT COST WAS, IS PLANNED TO BE COVERED BY THE PERMIT FEE ITSELF. AND SO IN DOING SOME QUICK MATH, UH, WITH THE PROPOSALS THAT WE'VE HAD IN FRONT OF US, AGAIN, WE HAVEN'T PUT OUT AN OFFICIAL RFP YET. SO THESE NUMBERS COULD CHANGE A LITTLE BIT, GIVE OR TAKE. BUT GIVEN THE NUMBERS THAT WE'VE SEEN SO FAR, WE BELIEVE AN AVERAGE OF $350 PER, UM, PER YEAR PER, UH, SHORT TERM RENTAL SHOULD COVER THE COST OF THAT, UM, WITH A, WITH A PRETTY DECENT, UH, BUFFER TO THAT. SO, UM, THAT'S WHAT'S IN FRONT OF YOU TONIGHT, AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, OR QUESTIONS. I SAY WE ADDED ZERO TO THAT. MAKE IT $3,500. YEAH, GO AHEAD. MR. SCRIBNER. WHAT IS, UM, I MEAN, WE HAVE PERMIT FEES TO RUN OTHER BUSINESSES IN TOWN, RIGHT? SO LIKE, WHAT WOULD BE A FOR REFERENCE? LIKE PUT THAT IN CONTEXT, LIKE WHAT ARE SOME OF OUR OTHER, DO YOU KNOW THAT OFF THE TOP OF YOUR HEAD? I'M SORRY TO PUT YOU ON THE SPOT. UH, IT, IT, IT DEPENDS. IT, IT VARIES WIDELY. IT'S A VERY LONG LIST OF PERMIT FEES. RIGHT? I FIGURED. SO, UH, IT'S KIND OF HARD TO MAKE. WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ELSE THAT'S LIKE THIS. WE, THERE'S NO, UM, I, I DON'T KNOW OF ANY OTHER THAT ARE LIKE, PER BUSINESS. IT IS, THIS IS A SPECIAL KIND OF CASE. AND SO AGAIN, WHAT WE LOOK AT WHEN WE DETERMINE FEES IS, IS RECUPERATING OUR COST OF ADMINISTERING THE CODE. SO IN THIS CASE, THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE DOING. UM, IF IT COMES TO A POINT WHERE WE'RE NO LONGER USING A THIRD PARTY TO ADMINISTER THE CODE, WE MAY ADJUST THE FEE UP OR DOWN DEPENDING ON WHAT THE INTERNAL COST IS. UM, AS YOU KNOW, WE DID INCREASE OUR FEES EARLIER THIS YEAR BASED ON A COST MM-HMM . UM, A COST RECOVERY, UH, MODEL. AND SO THIS, THIS FOLLOWS THAT AS WELL. OKAY. THANK YOU, MAYOR. YES. YES, SIR. I WANT TO MAKE IT CLEAR THAT THIS IS AN ESTIMATE COST 350. IF WE GO OUT AND RFP AND WE GET PROPOSALS IN, AND THIS IS SHORT, YOU'RE GONNA BRING IT BACK TO US TO BRING IT BACK IN. OKAY? YES, SIR. I'M GOOD WITH THAT. YES, MA'AM. BUT WE CAN START OFF WITH, THIS IS WHAT WE WOULD BE WILLING TO PAY. I MEAN, WE DO THAT WHEN WE HAVE OTHER, OTHER BIDS THAT THEY HAVE TO MEET A CERTAIN AMOUNT MM-HMM . RIGHT? I, WHAT WHAT WE WOULD DO IS PUT OUT A, A REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS AND WE WOULD OPEN THOSE BIDS AND SEE, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT THE SERVICE IS, YOU KNOW, WHAT THE SCOPE OF THEIR SERVICES IS PROPOSED AND WHAT THAT [02:20:01] COST IS. UNTIL WE HAVE THAT OFFICIALLY, I DON'T HAVE ANY REAL WAY TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION. YES, SIR. COULD, CAN WE JUST MAKE IT AN E THAN 400? WE'LL SEE. SO I MEAN, THE THREE FIFTYS TO COVER, OF COURSE, ALL Y'ALL'S COSTS, RIGHT? BUT WE ALSO GONNA HAVE SOME COSTS. LIKE WE, WE'VE ALREADY KIND OF COME UP WITH THAT. THERE'S GONNA BE SOME COSTS TO ENFORCE THIS. UH, POLICE, FIRE, CIVIL COURTS, ALL THOSE OTHER THINGS. SO HOW MUCH DO WE CHARGE TO, FOR A HOTEL PERMIT? FOR A HOTEL PERMIT? I, I, I COULDN'T ANSWER. I DON'T THINK WE HAVE A HOTEL PERMIT PER SE. SE WELL, BUT FOR TO OPEN A PER TO, TO, TO, TO, FOR, TO THE INSPECTIONS AND EVERYTHING. HOW MUCH WOULD YOU CHARGE FOR ALL THAT TO, TO OPERATE HOTEL? I, I DON'T HAVE THAT IN ANNUALLY. HOW MUCH DO YOU DO ON APARTMENTS ANNUALLY? UH, I, I DON'T KNOW OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD. UH, WE KIND OF JUST DISCUSSED THAT IN THE WORKS SESSION BEFORE. I THOUGHT YOU MIGHT HAVE IT. OKAY. SO 'CAUSE FOR ME, THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. WE GOTTA COVER NOT ONLY THE COST OF THE COMPANY THAT'S GONNA REGULATE THIS AND WATCH IT. WE GOTTA COVER THE COST OF THE COURT FEES REGULATING IT WHEN WE FIND THE PEOPLE THAT ARE NOT OPERATING THE STR DOING ALL THAT OTHER PROCESS. SO FOR ME, 3,500 IS A GOOD AMOUNT. WELL, THE THIRD PARTY IS THE ONE REGULATING. I GET THAT THE THIRD PARTY'S NOT ENFORCING IT. WE ARE GONNA HAVE TO ENFORCE IT WHEN THEY'RE NOT. THE THIRD PARTY'S NOT GONNA GO THROUGH OUR CIVIL COURT SYSTEM, BUT COURT FEES ARE GONNA COME. THAT'S WHEN IT COMES TO FILES FOR THE COURT. BUT WHAT ABOUT THE PERSONNEL FEES, THE PAPERWORK, ALL THAT? THAT'S WHAT HE'S TALKING ABOUT. THE POLICE THAT ARE GONNA HAVE TO GO OUT THERE WHEN ENFORCE THESE PEOPLE ARE GONNA ENFORCE. OH, WE ENFORCE. ARE WE SUBSIDIZING THE ENFORCEMENT? WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT HERE TO BREAK EVEN. WE'RE HERE TO, WE'RE HERE TO MAKE SURE WE COVER IN ALL DEPARTMENTS. OKAY. SO PROPOSED WOULD BE IS THREE 50? THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY. I NEED A MOTION. MOTION TO APPROVE. I NEED A SECOND. SECOND. I ALL IN FAVOR? A. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? NO. MOTION CARRIES. THANK YOU. WE ARE ON [9. CONSENT All Consent Agenda items listed are considered to be routine by the City Council and will be enacted by one motion. There will be no separate discussion of these items unless a Council Member requests, in which event the item will be removed from the Consent Agenda and considered in its normal sequence on the agenda.] TO CONSENT. JENNA? UH, I NEED ITEMS A THROUGH J. ITEM NINE C HAS BEEN PUSHED. DOES ANYONE WANT TO PULL ANY OF THE, ANY OF THESE ITEMS FOR DISCUSSION? OKAY, SO I NEED A MOTION. NINE C HAS BEEN PUSHED. IT'S BEEN PULLED. IS THAT WHAT YOU MOTION TO MOTION TO APPROVE ITEMS NINE A THROUGH J WITHOUT C. SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES. NOW WE ARE ON TO THE MANAGER'S REPORT. MR. REYNOLDS, HOLD A SECOND. LET EVERYBODY IT IS. OH, WOW. WHAT IS THAT, MAYOR? A MINUTE TO CLEAR OUT. YEAH, I CAN'T, WELL, WE, WE CAN, WE CAN WAIT. I MEAN, SARAH, APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS 'CAUSE I HEAR YOU FINE. I GOT A SPEAKER RIGHT HERE. YOU DON'T? NO. OH. I ONLY HAVE 20% HEARING IN MY LEFT EAR AND I DIDN'T WANNA HAVE TO SHARE THAT WITH THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY, BUT WHEN THEY HAVE BEEN ASKED NUMEROUS TIMES, WHAT MY RIGHT EAR HONES INTO EVERYTHING THAT'S GOING IN ON THIS SIDE. AND SO IF WE DON'T KEEP DECORUM, I CAN'T HEAR WHAT Y'ALL ARE DISCUSSING AT ALL. AND I'M TRYING TO LOOK AT THE AUDIENCE AND THEN LOOK OVER HERE. AND IT IS VERY FRUSTRATING FOR US. MM-HMM . RIGHT NOW TO SEE A WHITE SPOT. SO BETWEEN YOUR EARS AND MY, MY EYES AND YOUR EARS. WE ARE, WE ARE JACKED UP RIGHT NOW. I'M ABOUT TO BE THE GLASSES. YEAH. BUT I REALLY WOULD LIKE TO HOLD, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, YOU, THERE'S A LOT OF FRUSTRATION ON MANY SIDES UP HERE, BUT AT THE VERY LEAST I WOULD LIKE DECORUM HELD IN THIS ROOM. SO HOW MAYOR AND COUNCIL, THANK Y'ALL [10. MANAGER'S REPORT Notice is hereby given in accordance with Section 551.0415 of the Texas Government Code, the City Council of the City of Baytown may receive a report about items of community interest from City staff and/or a member of the City Council, but no action or possible action shall be taken or discussed concerning the subject of such report, except as provided by Section 551.042 of the Texas Government Code.] FOR THE PATIENCE. WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT OUT THERE. YES, SIR. UM, THANK Y'ALL FOR THE PATIENCE. I DIDN'T WANT TO HIGHLIGHT THE EMPLOYEES WITH ALL THE NOISE. I WANTED TO RESPECT THE EMPLOYEES AND WAIT FOR THEM TO EXIT. I ALSO KNOW THAT YOU COULDN'T HEAR. UH, SO THANK YOU FOR THE PATIENCE WHILE THEY EXITED. UH, I'D LIKE TO BEGIN BY RECOGNIZING A FEW TEAM MEMBERS WITH OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT, UH, FIREFIGHTER REON, UH, ST. JULIAN RECENTLY COMPLETED HIS ASSOCIATE'S DEGREE IN FIRE SCIENCE FROM HOUSTON CITY COLLEGE. UH, CONGRATS ON THIS ACCOMPLISHMENT AND KEEP UP THE GREAT WORK. UH, FIREFIGHTERS. CLAUDIO ROJAS AND JASON COCHRAN WERE RECOGNIZED BY ONE OF THE CHARGE NURSES AT THE HOUSTON METHODIST EMERGENCY DEPARTMENT FOR THEIR ABOVE AND BEYOND EFFORTS IN ASSISTING WITH MULTIPLE CRITICAL PATIENTS WHILE HOSPITAL STAFF WAS SHORTHANDED. SO, GREAT, GREAT WORK BY THOSE FIREFIGHTERS AND, UH, WE APPRECIATE ALL THAT YOU DO. I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE ANY FIREFIGHTERS HERE TONIGHT. UH, BAY TOWN'S PARK REC NATURE AND TOURISM TEAM IS LAUNCHING A NEW BIRD FRIENDLY INITIATIVE AS PART OF THE PARKS AND TRAILS OPEN SPACE MASTER PLAN. THOSE EFFORTS, OR THESE EFFORTS FOCUS ON, UH, PROTECTING HABITATS, UH, EXPANDING EDUCATION AND ENGAGING THE COMMUNITY TO STRENGTHEN CONSERVATION ACROSS THE CITY. BY INVESTING IN THESE INITIATIVES, BAYTOWN IS SUPPORTING WILDLIFE WHILE STRENGTHENING THE CONNECTION BETWEEN PEOPLE [02:25:01] PLACE AND THE NATURAL ENVIRONMENT THAT DEFINES OUR COMMUNITY. AND LOOK AT A BRENT DOOLITTLE WITH THAT PHOTO IN THERE. I LIKE IT'S A WHITE IBUS. I CAN'T SEE WHAT IS IT? A WHITE IVUS. LASTLY, I WANT TO GIVE A SPECIAL THANK YOU TO OUR PARKS, REC AND TOURISM DEPARTMENT, AS WELL AS ALL CITY DEPARTMENTS THAT HELP MAKE THE 4TH OF JULY CELEBRATION A SUCCESS. I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO RECOGNIZE THE FOLLOWING TEAM MEMBERS, JASON CALDER, JAMES MOSS, JD GILES, DALLAS FISH, BLANCA RUBIO, JOSE BARBOSA, MARK GUZMAN, AND DAVID AL. THEIR WORK IS OFTEN BEHIND THE SCENES, BUT ABSOLUTELY CRITICAL TO AN EVENT LIKE THIS. WITH AMERICA'S TWO 50TH ANNIVERSARY, THOUSANDS OF RESIDENTS AND VISITORS ENJOYED A CELEBRATION FEATURED THROUGHOUT THE HOUSTON REGION AND PROMOTED AS ONE OF THE AREA'S PREMIER 4TH OF JULY EVENTS. IT WAS A WONDERFUL, IT WAS WONDERFUL TO SEE OUR COMMUNITY COME TOGETHER TO CELEBRATE. I DO APPRECIATE ALL OF Y'ALL SHOWING UP AS WELL. HOPE Y'ALL HAD A GOOD TIME. THERE WERE A LOT OF EMPLOYEES OUT THERE, UM, MAKING THAT, UH, COME TO LIFE. AND THERE WERE A TON OF RESIDENTS THAT SHOWED UP AND THAT WAS, UH, FANTASTIC TO SEE AS WELL. UM, MAYOR AND COUNSEL, I WILL ALSO TAKE THIS TIME JUST TO SAY THANK YOU. I KNOW MEETINGS LIKE THESE AREN'T ALWAYS EASY. I APPRECIATE Y'ALL'S PATIENCE AND ACTUALLY SPENDING A LOT OF TIME WITH ME BEFORE THIS TO HAVE IN-DEPTH CONVERSATIONS TO MAKE THIS SOMEWHAT, UM, UH, EASIER TO DISCUSS BECAUSE WE KNEW THAT THERE WOULD BE A LOT OF BACK AND FORTH AND, UH, JUST WANNA SAY THANK YOU FOR SPENDING A LOT OF TIME BEFOREHAND SO THAT, UH, I DON'T THINK PEOPLE REALIZE, AND I'M JUST TRYING TO HIGHLIGHT THAT NOW. THERE'S A LOT OF WORK BY Y'ALL ON THE BACK END BEFORE IT EVEN GETS HERE. SO THAT'S ALL I HAVE. MAYOR, COUNSEL. THANK YOU. . YEAH, GO AHEAD. JASON, I'D LIKE TO THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING. I MEAN, I KNOW THERE'S YOU, YOU'VE BEEN AMAZING ON THIS. YOU'VE BEEN, YOU'VE BEEN RIGHT DOWN THE MIDDLE. YOU'VE BEEN LIKE, HEY, I, I, YOU, YOU, THERE'S, YOU'VE TRIED TO WORK. LOOK AT EVERY ANGLE TO, TO LOOK AT FOR EVERY, FOR EVERYBODY INVOLVED IN THE COMMUNITY. AND I APPRECIATE ALL THAT, WHAT YOU DID FOR THE COMMUNITY ON THAT PART. AND, AND ALSO YOU TOO, SCOTT, I KNOW YOU, YOU GOT A LITTLE BACKLASH, BUT YOU DID EVERYTHING THAT YOU COULD AND I APPRECIATE THAT. NOW [a. Receive a report from Council Member Mike Lester regarding projects, programs and events in District No. 6. ] WE ARE ON TO COUNCIL MEMBER DISTRICT REPORT. OKAY, I'LL, I'LL MAKE THIS SHORT AND SWEET. WE HAD A COUPLE LITTLE ACTIVITIES GOING ON. UH, THOSE, UH, THAT'S GOING UP DOWN, UH, 1 46 THERE AT THE BAYOU. PROBABLY NOTICE THE CMEX CONSTRUCTION MATERIALS AREA. YOU KNOW, THE, THE, THEY'RE, THEY'RE ADDING ABOUT A 1200 SQUARE FOOT SHOP THAT'S IN THE PROCESS. CEDAR BAYOU JUNIOR HIGH HAS GOTTA REMODEL THE PROJECT GOING ON. UM, YOUTH JUDO AND JUJITSU, I'M SURE THE CHIEF IS PROBABLY PLAYING WITH THAT. CLASSES BEGAN THIS MONTH AT THE ROSELAND CLUBHOUSE IN DISTRICT SIX, UH, VOLUNTEERS FROM THE GIRL SCOUTS. I WISH WE'VE HAD THE CROWD HERE TONIGHT. VOLUNTEERS FROM THE GIRL SCOUTS ARE GONNA HELP CLEAN UP ROSELAND PARK. I BELIEVE THIS SATURDAY, JULY 9TH OR 11TH, EXCUSE ME, JULY 11TH IS PART OF THE BAYTOWN ONGOING EFFORTS TO KEEP THEIR PARTS CLEAN AND WELCOMING. EXXONMOBIL ENGINEERING INTERNS ALSO PARTICIPATED WITH THE CITY TO ASSEMBLE MONOFILAMENT FISHING LINE COLLECTION BINS. AND A LOT OF PEOPLE THINK, WHY DO YOU NEED THAT? IF YOU'VE EVER BEEN FISHING ALONG THE BAYOU OR, OR ANYTHING THAT'S GOT ROCKS, AT LEAST WITH WHEN I GO FISHING IN, IT'S THAT WAY, THE LINE GETS TANGLED UP. I GOT, AND I'M STRIPPING OUT, YOU KNOW, 40, 50, 60 YARDS OF MONOFILAMENT LINE AND IT LAYS OUT THERE. THE BIRDS GET IN, IT, IT, THE FISH GET IN IT. SO IT'S GOOD THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY'VE GOT, UH, DESIGNATED, UH, TRASH BINS OR WHATEVER FOR THAT. NOW, UM, PIPE FLUSHING ALONG PAGAN DRIVE TO ENSURE THE STORM WATER DRAINS ARE. SORRY ABOUT THAT. I GUESS THAT'S MY CUE. . OPEN THAT WATER BOTTLE FOR YOU. YEAH, DRAINAGE GETS SOME EMOTIONAL, YEAH, DRAINAGE GETS ME, YEAH, IT'S, I FEEL THE FLOOD COMING. UH, PIPE FLUSHING OPERATIONS ON PECAN DRIVE. KEEP THE STORM WATERS, UH, FLOWING. THAT'S ALWAYS GOOD. CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS. EAST DISTRICT PLANT, UH, PHASE ONE IS FINISHED. UH, PHASE TWO IS IS, UH, ON SCHEDULE. AND THE JAMES STREET LIFT STATION, AGAIN, THE, UM, THEY'RE MOVING ALL THE ELECTRICAL UP TO THE SAME HEIGHT AS THE GENERATOR AND EVERYTHING TO, TO MAKE IT MORE STORM WORTHY. UH, AND THAT'S THE END OF THE REPORT, MAN. GOOD DEAL. WELL, I'M GOING TO GO THROUGH MY LIBRARY THROUGH THE END OF THE MONTH. THAT'S WHAT EVERYONE OUT THERE STAYED FOR. . I SEE JEFF. I SEE JEFF SMILING. YES. SO TODAY'S THE NINTH. WE'RE GONNA START WITH TOMORROW. 10:00 AM FRIDAY MORNING BOOK CLUB 11:30 AM ADULT COLORING ON THE 13TH, 10:30 AM BABY TIME, 2:00 PM TWEEN LEGO PLAY. 10:30 AM PRE-K STORY TIME. 6:00 PM TEEN ART NIGHT DINOSAUR EGG RESIN MOLDS ON THE 15TH, 10 30 AND 11:30 AM BILINGUAL STORY TIME, 2:00 PM EXPLORE THE WETLANDS. 6:00 PM [02:30:01] ADULTS. 3D PRINTING CLASS ON THE 16TH, 10 30 AND 11:30 AM TODDLER TIME ON THE 17TH, 10:30 AM TECH MORNING, 3D PRINTING, VIRTUAL REALITY AND ROBOTICS ON THE 20TH. 10:30 AM BABY TIME. 2:00 PM TWEEN STORY EXPLORERS. 10:30 AM PRE-K STORY TIME. 6:00 PM TEEN GAME NIGHT, MARIO CARD. THAT'S ALWAYS FUN. THE 22ND, 10 30 AND 11:30 AM BILINGUAL STORY TIME 2:00 PM OUTDOOR PLAY. DAY 5:00 PM TECH NIGHT, 3D PRINTING AND VIRTUAL REALITY. 10 30 AND 11:30 AM TODDLER TIME. 5:30 PM JEWEL SUN CATCHERS ON THE 27TH. 10:30 AM BABY TIME. 2:00 PM TWEEN BREADED PEN CRAFT. OH, TWEEN. BEAT IT. PEN, PEN CRAFT. 10:30 AM ON THE 28TH. PRE-K STORY TIME ON THE 29TH, 10:30 AM END OF SUMMER FOAM PARTY ON THE 30TH, 10 30 AND 11:30 AM TODDLER TIME. AND ON THE 31ST SUMMER READING ENDS 5:00 PM TO 8:00 PM TEEN TAKEOVER SURVIVOR EDITION. UH, THAT SOUNDS LIKE A LOT OF FUN. UM, MAYBE A LITTLE VIOLENT TEAM TAKEOVER. HILARIOUS. IT IS. THE VIDEOS OF THE LIBRARY PUT TOGETHER TO PROMOTE THESE DIFFERENT PROGRAMS. THEY'RE LIKE HILARIOUS. REALLY? WE HAVE TO GO CHECK 'EM OUT THEN. MM-HMM . SO STOP BY WILL LIBRARY VOTED THE SECOND BEST LIBRARY IN THE NATION. WE SAY IT'S THE BEST LIBRARY IN TEXAS, IN BAYTOWN IN HARRIS COUNTY. DO I HAVE ANY OBJECTIONS TO THAT? NO, NOT AT ALL. BECAUSE, BECAUSE OF YOUR REMINDERS. I TOOK MY GRANDSON TODAY TO TODDLER TOM. IT WAS AWESOME. I TOLD HIM. THE MAYOR SENT US DID HE GET HIS LIBRARY CARD? NOT YET. OKAY. WELL, WE'RE WAITING ON HIM TO BE GET HIS, I DON'T THINK THERE'S AN AGE ON THAT. I'LL HELP HIM. HELP HIM. THERE YOU GO. THERE YOU GO. HAVING ADJOURNED. HAVING ADJOURNED EVERYTHING ON HIS MEET, HAVING, TAKING CARE OF EVERYTHING ON HIS MEETING, WE NOW ADJOURN IT AT 9:10 PM. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.