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          I'S GOT, 
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OH, ALL YOUR MICROPHONES ARE ON, BY THE WAY. 
          YEAH. 
          WE THOUGHT WE WERE WHISPERING INTO EACH OTHER. 
          I NOW CALL THE MARCH 17TH, 2026 PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING TO ORDER AND ASK LIZ TO CALL ROLL COMMISSIONER CHAPPA HERE. 
          SORRY. 
          COMMISSIONER CHOPPA HERE. 
          COMMISSIONER HARLOW. 
          HE'S NOT HERE. 
          UH, VICE CHAIR SCOTT. 
          PRESENT. 
          COMMISSIONER CARROLL PRESENT. 
          COMMISSIONER SINGH? HERE. 
          COMMISSIONER LAREDO? HERE. 
          COMMISSIONER BEARD HERE. 
          AND COMM UH, MADAM CHAIR WINFREY HERE. 
          THANK YOU, LESLIE. 
          WE HAVE A QUORUM. 
          ITEM ONE A IS CITIZENS' COMMENTS. 
          THE PURPOSE OF CITIZENS' COMMENTS IS TO GIVE ALL INTERESTED CITIZENS THE RIGHT TO EXPRESS THEIR VIEWS. 
          EVERYONE DESIRING TO SPEAK SHOULD EITHER HAVE SIGNED THE APPROPRIATE LIST IN THE FOYER OR EMAILED THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT PRIOR TO THE POSTED TIME OF THIS MEETING. 
          EACH CITIZEN SHALL GIVE HIS OR HER NAME AND ADDRESS IN ORDER TO PROVIDE A PROPER RECORD OF THESE COMMENTS. 
          THE RULES ALLOW EACH PERSON ONE MINUTE TO SPEAK. 
          A CITIZEN MAY PASS HIS OR HER TIME TO ANOTHER PERSON WHO HAS REQUESTED TO ADDRESS THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION. 
          HOWEVER, NO CITIZEN'S REMARKS SHALL EXCEED THREE MINUTES IN TOTAL. 
          EITHER THE ONE MINUTE OR THE THREE MINUTE LIMIT MAY EXCEED, MAY BE EXTENDED BY A MAJORITY VOTE OF THE COMMISSION. 
          I ENCOURAGE EVERYONE TO BE AS BRIEF AND TO THE POINT AS POSSIBLE. 
          PLEASE KEEP IN MIND THE COMMISSION CANNOT DISCUSS OR DELIBERATE ON ITEMS FOR WHICH PUBLIC NOTICE HAS NOT BEEN GIVEN ON THE AGENDA. 
          ISSUES THAT CANNOT BE REFERRED TO ADMINISTRATION FOR ACTION MAY BE CONSIDERED REPLACEMENT ON THE AGENDA OF A FUTURE PLANNING AND ZONING AGENDA. 
          DO WE HAVE ANYONE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK PLEASE? THANK YOU, TIM. 
          THANK YOU THERE BEING NO ONE DESIRING TO SPEAK. 
          THIS CONCLUDES THE CITIZEN'S COMMENT PORTIONS OF THE AGENDA. 
          AND WE MOVE ON TO ITEM TWO 
          [a.  Consider approving the meeting minutes of the February 17, 2026, Planning and Zoning Commission Regular Meeting.]
A. 
          CONSIDER APPROVING THE MEETING MINUTES OF THE FEBRUARY 17TH, 2026, PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING. 
          ANY DISCUSSION, COMMISSIONERS MOVE TO APPROVE. 
          TWO A MINUTES. 
          ONE SECOND. 
          ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? ALL IN FAVOR, AYE. 
          AYE. 
          ANY OPPOSED? ANY ABSTENTIONS? TWO A CARRIES. 
          I WILL READ THE FOLLOWING ONE TIME, AND IT APPLIES TO ALL PUBLIC HEARINGS. 
          THE PUBLIC HEARINGS TODAY ARE BEING HELD FOR THE PURPOSE OF GIVING ALL INTERESTED PERSONS THE RIGHT TO EXPRESS THEIR VIEWS REGARDING THE SUBJECT OF THE PUBLIC HEARINGS. 
          EVERYONE DESIRING TO BE A PART OF TODAY'S HEARINGS? SHOULD I READ THE SIGN THE APPROPRIATE LIST IN THE FOYER OR EMAIL THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT PRIOR TO THE POSTED TIME OF THIS MEETING? EACH PARTICIPANT SHALL GIVE HIS OR HER NAME AND ADDRESS IN ORDER TO PROVIDE A PROPER RECORD OF THIS HEARING. 
          THE RULES ALLOW EACH PERSON THREE MINUTES TO PRESENT INFORMATION. 
          HOWEVER, I ENCOURAGE EVERYONE TO BE AS BRIEF AND TO THE POINT AS POSSIBLE. 
          IF YOU ARE A GROUP OF PERSONS WISHING TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION ON THE SAME SUBJECT, PLEASE SELECT A SPOKESPERSON TO PRESENT THE INFORMATION. 
          AND IF ANYONE HAS ANY QUESTIONS, PLEASE DIRECT THEM TO ME. 
          ITEM THREE 
          [a.  Conduct a public hearing and consider a request to amend the official zoning map to rezone approximately 20.36 acres located at 1301 East Interstate Highway (IH) 10, from Freeway Commercial (FC) to a Planned Unit Development (PUD) Zoning District. ]
A IS A ZONING, CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDER REQUEST TO AMEND THE OFFICIAL ZONING MAP TO REZONE APPROXIMATELY 20.36 ACRES, LOCATED AT 1301 EAST INTERSTATE HIGHWAY 10 FROM FREEWAY COMMERCIAL TO PLAN UNIT DEVELOPMENT ZONING DISTRICT. 
          IT IS NOW 5:04 PM AND I CALL THIS PUBLIC HEARING TO ORDER TO CONSIDER ITEM THREE A. 
          THANK YOU, SIR. 
          GOOD AFTERNOON EVERYONE. 
          AFTERNOON TALBERT JACKSON PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT. 
          TALBERT. 
          I'M HERE TO PRESENT TO YOU. 
          UM, ITEM THREE A, UH, TO, UH, UM, FOR A ZONING MAP, AMENDMENT TO REZONE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 1301 EAST INTERSTATE HIGHWAY 10 FROM FREEWAY COMMERCIAL TO PLAN UNIT DEVELOPMENT, ALSO KNOWN AS PUD, UM, WITH A BASE ZONING DISTRICT OF GENERAL COMMERCIAL. 
          HERE YOU'LL SEE THE, UM, AN AERIAL VIEW OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY OUTLINED HERE ALONG THE I 10, UM, FEEDER ROAD. 
          UH, THIS IS ALSO ADJACENT TO, UM, A RECENT, UM, UH, RECENT, UH, PROJECT INVOLVING THE QT, UM, QUIKTRIP, UH, PROPERTY THAT Y'ALL MAY BE, THAT YOU MAY RECALL. 
          UH, SO IN, IN GENERAL, THE ENTIRE PROPERTY IS OWNED BY QUIKTRIP AND THE SUBJECT PROPERTY WILL BE, UM, AN AN AN OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE FOR A GENERAL COMMERCIAL INCORPORATING, UM, 
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UH, SHOWROOMS, UM, GENERAL COMMERCIAL LOCATIONS, AND A MULTITUDE OF BUILDINGS THAT WILL PROVIDE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE CITY OF BAYTOWN TO HAVE A, AN AREA ALONG THE GATEWAY, UM, THAT PEOPLE CAN SEE AND, AND, AND BE PROUD OF HERE. 
          UM, THE ZONING MAP AMENDMENT. 
          HERE, YOU'LL SEE THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP, UH, SHOWING THAT THE, IT'S, UH, UH, SLATED FOR LARGE SCALE COMMERCIAL. 
          THE ZONING MAP, UH, PROVIDED HERE SHOWS IT'S ZONED, CURRENTLY ZONED FREEWAY COMMERCIAL. 
          AND THE ZONING DISTRICTS ADJACENT, UM, ARE, YOU'LL SEE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL HERE AS WELL AS A FORM OF RESIDENTIAL HERE AS WELL. 
          AND WHAT THE APPLICANT IS, IS PROPOSING, UH, DOES NOT GO OUTSIDE OF THE REALM OF THE SURROUNDING AREA. 
          THE AREAS HERE THAT ARE IN WHITE FOR THE MOST PART, ARE NOT PART OF OUR JURISDICTION, AND THEREFORE, THE ZONING DISTRICT'S, UM, COLOR SCHEME, UM, SCHEME DOES NOT, IS NOT REP REPRESENTED HERE ON THIS MAP. 
          SO, JUST IN CASE ANY OF YOU ARE WONDERING, THE PROPOSAL, UH, IS TO REZONE THIS PROPERTY TO PUD. 
          AND SO HERE YOU WILL SEE THE COLOR DIFFERENTIAL FROM WHAT WAS PREVIOUSLY FREEWAY COMMERCIAL TO THE PUD PLAN UNIT DEVELOPMENT, UH, ALONG THE SITE. 
          UM, SIGNAGE HAS BEEN PLACED ALONG THE SITE. 
          THIS IS AN IMAGE OF THE SITE AS IT STANDS TODAY. 
          UH, IT'S VACANT AND VEGETATED. 
          UH, THIS IS ALONG EAST HIGHWAY 10 FRONTAGE, ROAD FACING WEST, THE PRELIMINARY SITE PLAN. 
          NOW THERE ARE TWO PRELIMINARY SITE PLANS. 
          THE SECOND ONE IS A CONSIDERATION FOR, UM, UH, TDOT TEXAS, UH, UH, DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION. 
          UH, A PROPOSED ACQUISITION OF PROPERTY. 
          BUT HERE YOU'LL SEE THE, THE PRIMARY, UM, INTENT OF THE APPLICANT, UH, TO PROVIDE, UH, DEVELOPMENT ALONG THIS, UM, ALONG THE COVER, LINEAR, UH, PARCEL, UM, ALONG THE I I 10 FEEDER ROAD. 
          THE SECOND IMAGE, HOW YOU CAN SEE THE DIFFERENCE HERE, UH, THIS IS A CONSIDERATION THE APPLICANT HAS MADE IN THE EVENT THAT A PROPOSED PROJECT WITH TEXDOT WERE TO COME TO FRUITION. 
          AND SO, UM, LUCKILY THE APPLICANT HAS ENSURED, AT LEAST TO SOME DEGREE, THAT THE PROJECT IN AND OF ITSELF CAN STILL PROCEED PROVIDING THAT IF TEXDOT WERE TO MOVE FORWARD, THIS IS HOW IN WHICH THE, THE APPLICANT INTENDS TO PROCEED. 
          INTERESTING TO NOTE, THERE IS A MONUMENT HERE THAT'S DEDICATED TO THE CITY OF BAYTOWN. 
          UH, HERE IT SAYS BAYTOWN HERE AT THE BOTTOM. 
          THIS IS A VERY IMPORTANT POINT THAT I WANTED TO ENSURE WAS BROUGHT ABOUT FOR PRESENTATION TO, TO YOU ALL, AS WELL AS THE CONCEPT OF THE DEVELOPMENT TO THE LEFT. 
          AND IN HONOR OF ST. 
          PATRICK'S DAY, I MADE CERTAIN THAT THIS ARROW WAS GREEN. 
          THE, THE BUILDINGS HERE ARE REPRESENTATIVE OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY. 
          UM, THE OBJECTIVE HERE IS ALSO, AS YOU'LL SEE LATER, UH, TO PROVIDE SOME FORM OF BRANDING OPPORTUNITY FOR THE CITY OF BAYTOWN. 
          HERE YOU'LL SEE A PROPOSED ELEVATIONS OF THE BUILDINGS HERE ALONG I 10, ADJACENT TO THE VACANT LAND FOR THE QUICKTRIP, THE PROPOSED QUICK TRIP. 
          HERE'S ANOTHER VIEW OF THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT MONUMENT, SIGNAGE CLOSEUP VIEW OF PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT. 
          AND HERE I WANTED TO POINT OUT THERE ARE GOING TO BE SOME MODIFICATIONS TO THE STAFF REPORT THAT WAS SUBMITTED. 
          UH, ONE OF THOSE MODIFICATIONS CONCERNS. 
          TRANSPORTATION, UH, A TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS WILL BE REQUIRED AS WELL AS APPROVAL FROM THE TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION, UH, REFERENCE TO THE PROJECT INVOLVING THE POTENTIAL ACQUISITION OF LAND, UH, FOR ROADWAY WIDENING. 
          THIS IS THE NAME OF THE PROJECT WITH TDOT, AS WELL AS THE REFERENCE NUMBER FOR THAT PARTICULAR PROJECT. 
          AND AS, AS PREVIOUSLY STATED, THE APPLICANT HAS PROVIDED A MODIFIED PRELIMINARY SITE PLAN THAT ILLUSTRATES APPROXIMATELY 2.61 ACRE, A 2.61 ACRE REDUCTION OF THE SOUTHERN PROPERTY LINE TO ACCOMMODATE THE PROPOSED ROAD ROADWORK. 
          SECONDLY, SIGNAGE. 
          UM, WE'VE NEGOTIATED, UH, THROUGH THE CITY AS WELL AS THE APPLICANT, AN OPPORTUNITY FOR, FOR BRANDING. 
          AND 
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WE'VE, WE'VE COME UP WITH THE FOLLOWING, ONE PILE ON SIGN ALONG I 10 FRONTAGE ROAD MAY BE PERMITTED IN THE PUD AS OUTLINED BELOW. 
          MAXIMUM SIGN AREA SHALL BE 300 SQUARE FEET. 
          MAXIMUM HEIGHT SHALL BE 42.5 FEET. 
          AND THIS IS CONSISTENT WITH THE FREEWAY COMMERCIAL ZONING DISTRICT, UM, AND AS WELL AS ADDING, THANK YOU FOR VISITING BAYTOWN 'CAUSE IT IS ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE, THE WESTBOUND TRAVEL LANES OF I 10. 
          AS YOU ARE LEAVING THE CITY OF BAYTOWN. 
          UM, THE, THIS PARTICULAR LANGUAGE, UH, WILL NOT BE INCLUDED IN A SIGN AREA CALCULATION. 
          AND THE INTENT IS TO ENSURE THAT AS INDIVIDUALS ARE TRAPPED TRAVERSING THROUGH THE CITY, THEY'LL KNOW AT LEAST IN SOME, SOME AREA, UH, WE HAVE VISITED THE, THEY HAVE VISITED THE CITY OF BENTON AND THEY'RE NOW POTENTIALLY EXITING THE CITY. 
          UH, ALSO A MONUMENT SIGN SHALL BE PERMITTED ACCORDING TO THE STANDARDS OF THE GENERAL COMMERCIAL DISTRICT, ALSO PROVIDING A SIMILAR, UH, UH, MESSAGING. 
          AND THAT MESSAGING WILL NOT BE INCLUDED IN THE POTENTIAL SIGN AREA CALCULATION THAT MAY BE PRESENTED BY, UM, UH, THE APPLICANT AND WHEN IT COMES TIME FOR SUBMITTING APPLICATIONS. 
          ALRIGHT, SO NOW MOVING ON TO THE PROPOSED USES. 
          UH, THE APPLICANT INTENDS TO ADD THESE PROPOSED USES IN ADDITION TO GENERAL COMMERCIAL USES. 
          UH, THE TABLE HERE, UM, PROVIDES YOU WITH WHAT FREEWAY COMMERCIAL ALLOWS FOR THESE PARTICULAR TYPES OF USES THAT THE APPLICANT IS, IS SEEKING, AS WELL AS WHAT THE GENERAL COMMERCIAL DISTRICT ALLOWS. 
          THE APPLICANT HAS PROPOSED THAT THESE PARTICULAR USES BE PERMITTED AND OR BE PERMITTED WITH SOME FORM OF RESTRICTION, UM, PROVIDED BY THE CITY AND OR DETAILED WITHIN THE PUD. 
          THERE'S A CONTINUATION OF SAID USES AND THE HIGHLIGHTED AREAS FOR, FOR YOUR CONVENIENCE, UM, ALLOW YOU TO SEE THAT THIS IS, THESE ARE THE ONES PERTAINING TO THE, THE PROPOSED PUD, THE PROPOSED DESIGN. 
          UH, NOW WHEN IT COMES TO THE PROPOSED DESIGN, UH, THE APPLICANT MADE CONSIDERATIONS CONSIDERING THE FREEWAY COMMERCIAL DISTRICT AS WELL AS THE GENERAL COMMERCIAL DISTRICT. 
          AND THIS TABLE PROVIDES YOU WITH WHAT THOSE REQUIREMENTS ARE AND THE PROPOSED, UH, UH, STANDARD FOR THIS PARTICULAR PUD, FOR THE PROPERTY, FOR THE SUBJECT PROPERTY. 
          ADDITIONALLY, WITH THE PROPOSED DESIGN, THERE IS A WANT TO NOTATE HERE. 
          THERE'S A MAXIMUM OF 250,000 SQUARE FEET PROPOSED, AND IT IS TO BE DIVIDED AMONG A MINIMUM OF SIX BUILDINGS. 
          THOSE BUILDINGS, UH, WILL HAVE A MAX GROSS FLOOR AREA OF 50,000 SQUARE FEET EACH. 
          THE INTENT OF THIS IS TO ENSURE THAT THERE ISN'T JUST ONE LARGE BUILDING ON THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY, UH, WHICH COULD BE VIEWED A CERTAIN TYPE OF WAY, UH, PERHAPS VIEWED AS IF IT IS NOT GENERAL COMMERCIAL IN SOME SORT. 
          SO THE OBJECTIVE IS TO ENSURE THAT WE CAN SPLIT THIS UP IN WAYS THAT ENSURES THAT THESE BUILDINGS DO NOT HAVE A, AS MASSIVE, AS MASSIVE OF AN IMPACT OR BE, UH, UM, VIEWED IN A DIFFERENT TYPE OF, AS A DIFFERENT TYPE OF USE. 
          ADDITIONALLY, THERE WILL BE NO LOADING DOCKS, UH, TO FACE I 10 AS NOTATED HERE. 
          AND THERE WILL BE, UH, MINIMUM CIVIC AND OPEN SPACE REQUIREMENT AS, UH, DESCRIBED AS A, UH, A TENANT AMENITY AREA. 
          THOSE AMENITY AREAS ARE OVER HERE TO THE, TO THE WEST SIDE OF THE, OF THE SUBJECT SITE WHERE THE CURSOR IS CIRCLING, AS WELL AS TO THE EAST SIDE AROUND A, A POND WITH A, A TRAIL THAT GOES THROUGH THROUGH THE, AROUND THE POND WITH A FOUNTAIN. 
          ADDITIONALLY, THERE WILL BE A SIDEWALK ALONG THE KLINE, UH, SOUTHERN PROPERTY LINE. 
          THE APPLICANT IS HERE AS WELL. 
          UH, THEY'VE ALSO PROVIDED SLIDES FOR THE PRESENTATION. 
          UM, IF YOU'D LIKE TO TAKE A PAUSE NOW TO ASK ANY QUESTIONS, FEEL FREE. 
          UH, BUT IF NOT, I'D LIKE TO HAVE THE APPLICANT JUST DESCRIBE A LITTLE BIT MORE OF THE PROPOSED DESIGN. 
          IT'S ONLY A FEW SLIDES, IT SHOULDN'T TAKE VERY LONG. 
          COMMISSIONERS. 
          YOU OKAY WITH THAT PRES PRESENTATION? I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. 
          YES. 
          OKAY. 
          AND WE'LL GET TO ALL OF OUR QUESTIONS, SIR, BUT ARE YOU OKAY WITH THE I'LL WAIT FOR THE PRESENTATION? YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          YES, VERY GOOD. 
          THANK YOU. 
          SO PROCEED WITH THE YES. 
          APPLICANT'S PRESENTATION, PLEASE. 
          THE APPLICANT. 
          OKAY. 
          WE ASK THE APPLICANT TO PLEASE COME UP. 
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ALRIGHT. 
          AND IS THERE ANYONE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? THANK YOU, TIM. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU COMMISSION. 
          UM, I'M TAYLOR MITCHUM WITH CREATION. 
          WE'RE THE DEVELOPMENT COMPANY THAT'S CURRENTLY UNDER CONTRACT ON THE PROPERTY. 
          JUST A QUICK OVERVIEW ON WHO WE ARE. 
          CREATION, AS I MENTIONED, IS OUR, IS OUR DEVELOPMENT COMPANY. 
          UH, MAY, MAY, MAY I STOP YOU FOR A MINUTE. 
          CAN YOU SAY YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS PLEASE? I'M SORRY. 
          YES, TAYLOR MENTIONED WITH 12 8 12 80 EAST LEVY STREET IN DALLAS, TEXAS. 
          THANK YOU. 
          YEAH. 
          UM, AGAIN, I'M WITH CREATION. 
          WE'RE ACTIVE IN A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT PRODUCT TYPES, RETAIL OFFICE, MIXED USE, UH, LOGISTICS, AND A MIXTURE OF A BUNCH OF THESE DIFFERENT USES AS WELL. 
          WE'RE UNIQUE BECAUSE WE HAVE A SISTER COMPANY CALLED LG DESIGN BUILD, WHICH IS AN ARCHITECTURE AND CONSTRUCTION FIRM. 
          UM, IT, IT'S REALLY HELPFUL FOR US. 
          IT MAKES US MORE EFFICIENT. 
          WE HAVE A LOT OF PRIDE IN WHAT WE DESIGN AND, AND REALLY PROVIDING SOMETHING THAT LOOKS GOOD AND THAT THAT IS, UH, UM, YOU KNOW, MEN'S WELL WITH, WITH THE COMMUNITY AND WHAT'S NEEDED IN A CERTAIN AREA. 
          AND HOPEFULLY YOU SEE THAT WITH SOME OF OUR, WITH SOME OF OUR DESIGN. 
          AND THEN KIMLEY HORN IS OUR CIVIL ENGINEERING PARTNER. 
          THEY'RE HERE AS WELL TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT I MAY NOT BE ABLE TO. 
          UM, TALBERT WENT OVER A LOT OF THIS, BUT THIS IS THE SITE. 
          IT'S APPROXIMATELY 20 ACRES AT I 10 IN MAINE. 
          SOME THINGS THAT I JUST WANNA HIGHLIGHT REALLY QUICK, UM, GENERAL COMMERCIAL BASE ZONING, 250,000 SQUARE FEET, MAXIMUM SQUARE FOOTAGE. 
          UM, UH, YOU KNOW, I WANT TO JUST MENTION THAT IT'S, AGAIN, IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO US TO, TO WORK WITH THE CITY, WORK WITH THE COMMUNITY. 
          WE'VE BEEN HAVING MEETINGS WITH, UH, TALBERT AND TEAM FOR SEVERAL MONTHS NOW AND TRYING TO MASSAGE THE SITE PLAN AND, UH, SOME OF THE, THE RESTRICTIONS, REGULATIONS, THE USES, UH, IN A MANNER THAT WOULD HOPEFULLY BE RECEIVED A LITTLE BIT BETTER, UM, OR AT LEAST HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF, UH, A LITTLE BIT OF BUY-IN IF WE CAN ON THE FRONT END BEFORE WE COME AND MEET WITH ALL OF YOU. 
          SO, UM, WE DO OUR BEST TO TRY AND, YOU KNOW, HEAR EVERYBODY OUT, SEE WHAT'S, WHAT'S BEST FOR THE COMMUNITY AND FOR THE CITY THEMSELVES. 
          UM, WITH THAT, SOME OF THE, SOME OF THE PUD ENHANCEMENTS THAT WE DID WAS, UH, YOU KNOW, REFINING THOSE PERMITTED USES AS MUCH AS WE POSSIBLY COULD. 
          UM, ADDING SOME TENANT AMENITY AREAS WHERE WE'LL HAVE PICNIC TABLES, GRASS AREAS FOR YOUR DOG OR WHATEVER IT MIGHT BE, A TRAIL SYSTEM ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE PROPERTY THAT WE CAN LOOK AT A LITTLE BIT MORE, THAT'LL CONNECT TO THE, UH, TO THE SIDEWALK THAT'LL RUN ALONG THE FRONTAGE OF I 10 ACROSS THE FRONTAGE OF THE PRO OF, OF THE PROPERTY. 
          WE'LL HAVE CROSS ACCESS WITH THE QUICKTRIP IN, UH, TWO DIFFERENT AREAS. 
          SO THERE'LL BE A LITTLE BIT OF, UH, A LITTLE BIT OF, UH, SHARED SPACE AND ABILITY TO GO OVER AND PICK UP YOUR FOOD OR LUNCH OR WHATEVER IT MAY BE. 
          WALK BACK OVER TO THE TENANT, AMER TENANT AMENITY AREA, AND SAME THING FOR QUICKTRIP OR WHOEVER'S IN THE AREA TO BE ABLE TO WALK BACK AND FORTH BETWEEN BOTH PROJECTS. 
          UH, AND THEN WE DO OUR BEST TO REALLY ENHANCE THE LANDSCAPE DESIGN ALONG THE FRONT EDGE AND OTHER PARTS OF THE PROPERTY, INCLUDING THE, THE DETENTION POND AREA, THE TRAIL SYSTEM, UM, FOR ADDITIONAL SCREENING WHERE WE CAN, UM, AND YEAH, THIS JUST THE, THE BLUE AREA HERE. 
          UM, I WON'T, I WON'T READ IT WORD FOR WORD, BUT THE PURPOSE OF THIS PARK IS REALLY TO, UM, IT'S REALLY TO ACCOMMODATE A BUNCH OF DIFFERENT USES. 
          UH, THAT TOWER KIND OF MENTIONED RETAIL OFFICE, SHOWROOM, UH, TYPE OF TENANTS THAT ALSO HAVE A DISTRIBUTION COMPONENT. 
          WE JUST SEE THE NEED FOR A LOT OF THESE. 
          A LOT OF THESE TENANTS, YOU KNOW, LOVE THE HIGHWAY FRONTAGE. 
          UH, THEY LIKE TO HAVE THEIR FACILITY WHERE THEY CAN HAVE A SHOWROOM OR HAVE A WE'LL CALL PICKUP AREA, BUT THEY ALSO WANNA BE ABLE TO DISTRIBUTE OUTTA THAT SAME, OUTTA THAT SAME FACILITY. 
          IT REALLY PUTS ALL OF THEIR BUSINESSES, RETAIL, OFFICE, SHOWROOM AND DISTRIBUTION IN ONE BUILDING, ESPECIALLY WITH THE FRONTAGE LIKE THIS. 
          SO THIS, THIS SITE SETS UP WELL FOR, UH, YOU KNOW, TO PROVIDE ALL THOSE, ALL THOSE, UH, OFFERINGS. 
          UH, SOME OTHER THINGS HERE, I'LL, I'LL TRY TO BE QUICK, NOT TALK FOR TOO LONG, BUT STARTING ON THE EAST SIDE IS THE, IS THE, UH, DETENTION POND, WHICH WILL BE A WET POND. 
          THERE'LL BE A, A TRAIL SYSTEM OVER HERE FOR TENANTS, UH, AND OTHERS THAT ARE WALKING, YOU KNOW, THROUGH OUR PROPERTY IN THE QUICKTRIP PROPERTY. 
          UM, THE SIDEWALK ALONG THE FRONTAGE, UM, A LITTLE BIT HEAVIER LANDSCAPING ALONG THE I 10 FRONTAGE. 
          UH, AND, AND, AND THE LANDSCAPE BUFFER IN THE FRONT. 
          AS MUCH SEPARATION AS POSSIBLE BETWEEN US AND THE RESIDENTIAL TO THE NORTH. 
          UM, EVEN WITH THE, YOU KNOW, THE, THE CONSTRAINTS OF THE SITE, THE NA NATURAL CONSTRAINTS OF THE SITE, IT'S VERY NARROW, IT'S NOT VERY DEEP. 
          IT'S HARD TO FIT EVERYTHING ON THE SITE EFFICIENTLY AS POSSIBLE. 
          SO, UM, IT'S TIGHT ON THAT, ON, ON THAT NORTH SIDE, BUT TRYING TO BE COGNIZANT OF THE, OF THE ADJACENT 
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RESIDENTIAL TO THE NORTH, UH, THE TENANT AMENITY AREAS THAT, THAT WE MENTIONED HERE. 
          AND THEN ALSO OVER HERE IN THE TRAIL SYSTEM. 
          UH, AND THEN THE CROSS ACCESS THAT WE ALREADY MENTIONED. 
          THIS IS JUST THE EASTERN VIEW PERSPECTIVE FROM, YOU KNOW, THE, UH, GATEWAY MONUMENT HERE ON THE BOTTOM OF THE SCREEN LOOKING EAST. 
          AND THEN ON I 10 LOOKING EAST, YOU KNOW, THE HOPE IS THAT THESE BUILDINGS LOOK REALLY GOOD. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, WE TRY TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT WITH OUR DESIGN WITH A LITTLE BIT MORE, A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT COLOR SCHEMES, CONTRASTING COLORS, VERTICAL LINES, CANOPIES, UH, AND THE LANDSCAPING THAT JUST MAKE IT POP A LITTLE BIT MORE. 
          AND YOU SEE THAT WITH, WITH THE TENANTS. 
          THE TENANTS, UM, PREFER THESE TYPES OF BUILDINGS. 
          YOU KNOW, THAT'S NOT CHEAP RENT TO COME LEASE THESE BUILDINGS. 
          YOU'RE ATTRACTING A HIGHER END TENANT, UM, WHICH I THINK EVERYBODY ENDS UP BEING A LITTLE BIT MORE PROUD OF, HOPEFULLY. 
          AND THEN THESE ARE JUST SOME OTHER PERSPECTIVES AS WELL. 
          AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THERE'S NO ONE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK. 
          I NOW CLOSE THIS PUBLIC HEARING AT 5:21 PM REGARDING THE PUBLIC HEARING OF 20, UM, TO AMEND THE ZONING MAP TO REZONE APPROXIMATELY 20.36 ACRES AT 1301 EAST INTERSTATE, HIGHWAY 10 FROM FREEWAY COMMERCIAL TO PLAN UNIT DEVELOPMENT. 
          COMMISSIONER SINGH, DID YOU HAVE, WANNA START WITH THEIR QUESTIONS? YES. 
          MY QUESTION WAS REGARDING THE TEXT THOUGHT. 
          DO WE HAVE ANY KIND OF TIMELINE ON WHEN THEY'RE THINKING ABOUT EXPANDING THE I 10 RECALL THAT TIMELINE? I DO. 
          YEAH. 
          BUT WE'VE, WE'VE HAD A COUPLE CALLS WITH 'EM. 
          IT'S STILL, MAY I? YEAH, IT'S STILL EARLY. 
          IT SOUNDS LIKE THEY'RE, THEY'RE ABOUT 60% OF THE WAY THROUGH DESIGN. 
          UM, AND THEY, THE, THE LAST I SPOKE, I ACTUALLY SPOKE WITH 'EM YESTERDAY. 
          THERE'S 60% OF THE WAY THROUGH THE DESIGN, AND THEY'RE NOT PLANNING TO LET DO ANY LETTING ON THE PROPERTY OR BIDDING FOR THE, FOR THE PROJECT UNTIL LATE 2029. 
          SO IT WOULDN'T EVEN BE A, IT WOULD BE TILL A 2030 START THAT ALREADY PUSHED BACK FROM THE LAST CALL I HAD WITH 'EM ABOUT TWO MONTHS AGO. 
          SO IT FEELS LIKE IT'S ALREADY PUSHING A LITTLE BIT. 
          THEY WERE ORIGINALLY GONNA SEND OUT ACQUISITION OFFERS FOR THE, FOR THE RIGHT OF WAY AT THE END OF THIS YEAR. 
          THAT'S NOW PUSHED INTO LA INTO NEXT YEAR. 
          OKAY. 
          'CAUSE I THINK MY CONCERN IS, ACCORDING TO TDOT, THEY WERE, I THINK THEY WERE PLANS TO REMOVE THE, THE BAYTOWN WELCOME SIGN ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE FREEWAY. 
          IS THAT CORRECT? UH, THERE ARE PLANS TO RELOCATE IT. 
          RELOCATE NOT TO FULLY REMOVE THAT LOCATED. 
          UH, I DO NOT KNOW AT THE MOMENT. 
          OKAY. 
          BUT THERE ARE PLANS TO HAVE IT RELOCATED. 
          AND WHAT IS Y'ALL'S CONSTRUCTION TIMELINE TO COMPLETE THIS PROJECT IF YOU GET IT APPROVED? UM, THE HOPE WOULD BE TO START IN, IN EARLY 2027, FINISH BY THE END OF 27, AND THEN BE IN A PERIOD WHERE WE'D BE LEASING UP OR SELLING THESE BUILDINGS TO THE USERS IN 2028. 
          AND THEN HOW WOULD THAT AFFECT, IF TXDOT NEEDS THAT ADDITIONAL BUFFER? THE LAND, IT, IT REALLY WOULDN'T AFFECT US OR OUR TENANTS IN FOR THAT MATTER. 
          UM, THE WAY WE'VE DESIGNED IT. 
          AND IF THE OP PROJECT BECOMES MORE REAL LIKELY, WHAT WE'LL DO IS DESIGN A PERMIT WITH YOU ALL THE RIGHT OF WAY PLAN THAT HAS LESS SQUARE FOOT AND LESS AND HAS THE RIGHT OF WAY THAT THEY WOULD TAKE. 
          AND BASICALLY WE WOULD JUST HAVE A DRIVE THAT GETS APPROVED BY BAYTOWN AND TXDOT, AND THEN THAT DRIVE WOULD GET DEMOED AND THEN THEY WOULD, ONCE TXDOT TOOK THAT LAND, THEY WOULD JUST BASICALLY, UH, CONNECT TO OUR, TO OUR PROPERTY WHERE THOSE BUILDINGS ARE. 
          IF WE COULD PULL UP THAT OTHER, THAT OTHER SITE LAND. 
          SO DOES THE BENEFIT OF THE TXDOT TAKING LAND WELL, THEY, THEY ACTUALLY PAY FOR LAND THAT THEY TAKE. 
          THEY, YEAH. 
          SO THAT'S A, THAT IN ORDER TO YOUR BENEFIT OR TO THE OWNERS, THE SELLER'S BENEFIT? IT CAN BE. 
          WE'VE DONE IT BOTH WAYS. 
          UM, IT'S REALLY SUCH AN UNKNOWN FOR ME TO GO BUY IT AND THEN NOT KNOW WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN LATER IF THE TECH STOP PROJECT'S GONNA HAPPEN, HOW MUCH THEY'RE GONNA PAY. 
          SO PROBABLY WHAT I'LL DO IS JUST BUY THE LESSER SQUARE FOOTAGE, THE, THE, THE LESSER ACREAGE OF 17 AND A HALF ACRES, AND THEN LET QUICKTRIP THE OWNER DEAL WITH TXDOT AND SELL THEM THAT PROPERTY. 
          OKAY. 
          GOOD. 
          THANK YOU. 
          SO FOLLOW UP, IF, IF THEY WERE TO ACQUIRE THAT, WHERE WOULD THE SIGN THANK YOU FOR VISITING? BAYTOWN WOULD BE SITUATED HERE. 
          OH YEAH, WE WOULD STILL DO. 
          SO WE WOULD STILL HAVE SIGNS LIKE THIS, THIS, THIS IMAGE DOESN'T SHOW IT, BUT THE, THERE'S ANOTHER RENDERING THAT WE HAVE THAT WOULD SHOW THE, UH, THANK YOU FOR VISITING BAYTOWN HERE 
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AT THE TOP OF THE PYLON. 
          SO I WOULD STILL, WE WOULD STILL INSTALL THIS PYLON SOMEWHERE ON THE PROPERTY THAT WOULD NOT BE TAKEN FROM, FROM TDOT FOR RIGHT OF WAY FOR YOUR, FOR THE GATEWAY, UM, MONUMENT SIGN. 
          THAT'S REALLY COOL. 
          THAT'S ON THE SOUTHBOUND SOUTH SIDE OF I 10 WHEN YOU'RE HEADING EASTBOUND. 
          I, I'M NOT SURE, I'M NOT AWARE OF WHAT THE STATUS IS WITH THAT ONE, BUT OUR GOAL WOULD BE TO HELP, YOU KNOW, ADD SOMETHING FOR, YOU KNOW, THANK YOU FOR VIS VISITING BAYTOWN ON OUR PYLON SIGN. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          YES. 
          I HAVE A QUESTION. 
          IS THIS IN A FLOODPLAIN? I'M SORRY? IS THIS PROPERTY IN A FLOODPLAIN? NO, SINCE IT BACK UP TO THE, IT ACTUALLY ISN'T. 
          IT'S, UH, THERE'S A VERY SMALL PORTION OF IT THAT IS ON THIS FAR EAST SIDE WHERE THE, WHERE THE POND IS. 
          AND IS THAT POND THAT'S DETENTION ALSO SURFACES? YES. 
          OKAY. 
          YES MA'AM. 
          COMMISSIONER BEARD SEEMS LIKE THERE'S GONNA BE A PRETTY MAJOR TRAFFIC IMPACT AND WE HAVEN'T SEEN THE TRAFFIC ANALYSIS YET. 
          GOING INTO THIS PROPERTY, UM, SEEMS TO ME THAT'S KIND OF PUTTING THE CART BEFORE THE HORSE GOING IN. 
          IT IS ALREADY HARD ENOUGH TO GET ONTO THE FREEWAY IN THAT AREA NOW, PARTICULARLY AT FOUR O'CLOCK IN THE AFTERNOON WHEN EXXON LETS OUT, THAT TRAFFIC BACKS UP ALL THE WAY DOWN SPUR FOR SEVERAL MILES IN THE PROCESS. 
          AND IT SEEMS TO ME THE LAST THING WE NEED TO BE DOING IS ADDING MORE, UH, HEAVY TRAFFIC IN THAT AREA TO, TO GO INTO TO THAT PROPERTY. 
          SO QUICKTRIP CURRENTLY EARNS THIS LAND RIGHT NOW? YES, SIR. 
          UH, THIS MAY NOT BE AN APPROPRIATE QUESTION, BUT IS QUICK TRICK STILL GONNA PUT IN THEIR STUFF? IT'S KIND OF BEEN SITTING THERE FOR A WHILE. 
          THE, YOU MEAN THE, THE, UH, THE, THE GAS STATION AT THE CORNER? MM-HMM . 
          AS FAR AS WE KNOW, YES. 
          OKAY. 
          BECAUSE WE DATED, NOT TOLD US OTHERWISE. 
          OKAY. 
          SO WE HAVE AN AREA DESIGNATED FOR WAREHOUSES ON 10. 
          IS THIS IN THAT AREA? ARE WE CHANGING THAT NOW? AGAIN, THIS AREA CURRENTLY IS ZONED FOR FREEWAY COMMERCIAL, WHICH DOES NOT ALLOW FOR, FOR, UM, FOR WAREHOUSES. 
          OKAY. 
          SO WE WE'RE KIND OF TRYING TO GET WAREHOUSES TO GO TO ONE WHERE AND GET 'EM OFF OF THE AREA. 
          SO THAT'S, THAT'S A PROBLEM. 
          CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE USAGE MAP WITH THE COLUMN COMPARISONS PLEASE. 
          OKAY. 
          SO WE'RE GONNA SUDDENLY PERMIT LOOKING AT YOUR, YOUR RENDERING OF YOUR BUILDINGS. 
          AND NOW WE'RE GONNA SUDDENLY DO BULK STORAGE AND WE'RE GONNA DO SOME CONTRACT SHOPS WITH LAY DOWNS AND, AND, AND FABRICATIONS IN THERE. 
          UH, OUTDOOR STORAGE, SHIPPING CONTAINERS. 
          I'M NOT SURE FROM YOUR RENTING WHERE THEY'RE GONNA PUT THAT STUFF. 
          NUMBER ONE. 
          NUMBER TWO, THAT, THAT'S REALLY NOT THE KIND OF THING I THINK WE WANT TO BE SEEING AT THE ENTRANCE IS AN ESSENCE OF OUR CITY. 
          SO, SO THAT'S A PROBLEM FOR ME PERSONALLY, THAT WE'RE SUDDENLY GONNA HAVE IT, IT'S ALREADY, IT'S ALREADY ZONED FOR FREEWAY CONSTRUCTION. 
          AND SO IF YOU WANT TO BUILD SOMETHING IN THERE THAT IS WITHIN THE RULES OF THE, THE ZONING OF FREEWAY CONSTRUCTION, THAT'S OKAY. 
          BUT TO GO IN THERE AND PUT A PUT IN, WE'VE PUT A PUT IN FOR THE OTHER PROPERTY A LONG TIME AGO AND THERE'S NOT MUCH ACTIVITY GOING ON THERE. 
          BUT TO GO IN THERE AND PUT UNDER THE PUT IN AND, AND HAVE THESE THINGS PERMITTED AND WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE BRIDGE IMPACT'S GONNA BE, AND WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE TRAFFIC ANALYSIS WILL BE, THAT ACTUALLY CREATES AN ISSUE FOR ME PERSONALLY. 
          IF YOU SCROLL TO THE SECOND PAGE OF THE PROPOSED USES, ARE THERE ANY OTHER USES THAT YOU'D LIKE TO CALL OUT? I'M SORRY, I CAN HEAR YOU SPEAK UP. 
          SORRY. 
          I, I SCROLL TO THE SECOND, UH, PAGE OF THE PROPOSED USES. 
          ARE, ARE THERE ANY ADDITIONAL USES IN THIS LIST, UH, THAT RAISE CONCERN FOR YOU AS WELL? I'M SORRY, I STILL OKAY. 
          HEAR YOU. 
          THE SECOND, THE SECOND PAGE THAT HE'S SHOWING, DO YOU SEE ANY OTHER USES THAT YOU HAVE A CONCERN WITH? LIKE, UH, SPECIALTY EQUIPMENT? WELL, THERE'S ALREADY PERMANENT USES FOR THE, FOR THE, THE OTHER TWO SIDES, BUT THE, YEAH, I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW WHAT A SUPPLY HAS, BUT THAT'S FINE. 
          UH, YOU GOT VEHICLE AND BOAT SALES AND RENTALS. 
          I DON'T KNOW WHERE I, JUST LOOKING AT YOUR LAYOUT, WHERE ARE YOU GONNA PUT THIS STUFF? IF YOU'VE GOT A BUILDING THERE, YOU HAVEN'T GOT MUCH SPACE THERE. 
          IT'D BE PUTTING CONTAINERS AND LAY DOWNS AND BULK STORAGE AND, AND, AND, AND VOTES. 
          YEAH. 
          HEAR YOU ON GREAT QUESTIONS. 
          WANT TO TRY TO ANSWER ALL THESE, UM, FEW THINGS. 
          WHERE THEY'RE GONNA PUT IT IS IN THE BUILDING, YOU KNOW, THE, THE, THE GOAL IS FOR THESE USERS TO PUT MOST OF THEIR MATERIALS IN THE BUILDING. 
          UM, IF THERE IS AN ANCILLARY OUTDOOR STORAGE COMPONENT THAT THEY NEED, THEY'LL PUT IT IN THE YARD. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, AND THEN WE WOULD ASK THAT THEY SECURE THE YARD, THEY PUT A FENCE, 
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IT'S, IT'S A NICER FENCE. 
          UM, AND THEN IT'S SOMEWHAT SECURED A LITTLE BIT BETTER THIS WAY. 
          UM, THE USES THEMSELVES ARE REALLY THERE TO, YOU KNOW, NUMBER ONE, WE STILL HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO THE FREEWAY COMMERCIAL USES THE FREEWAY COMMERCIAL USES WITHIN THE PUD AS WELL AS THESE. 
          THE PROBLEM WITH THE FREEWAY COMMERCIAL RIGHT NOW IS THAT THERE REALLY ISN'T ANY DEMAND FOR A LOT OF THOSE USES. 
          THAT PAIRED WITH QUICKTRIP, THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY HAS DEED RESTRICTED THE REMAINDER OF THE PROPERTY AGAINST A LOT OF RETAIL AND COMMERCIAL USES WHERE THERE WOULD BE DEMAND RESTAURANT DRIVE THROUGH, UM, YOU KNOW, ANYTHING THAT WOULD NECESSARILY COMPETE WITH A FUEL STATION LIKE CANDY, CONVENIENCE, PIZZA, ET CETERA, ET CETERA. 
          SO A LOT OF THOSE COMMERCIAL RETAIL USES ARE UNFORTUNATELY RESTRICTED BY THE PROPERTY OWNER AND I CAN'T REMOVE THOSE. 
          SO I'M TRYING TO FIND A USE THAT WORKS FOR THE PROPERTY SEPARATE OF THOSE, WHICH IS REALLY WHAT THIS IS THAT ACCOMMODATES, I KNOW THE WORD WAREHOUSE IS USED, BUT TRULY THIS IS A LOT OF OFFICE SHOWROOM RETAIL, UM, TYPE OF USERS THAT HAVE THE DISTRIBUTION COMPONENT OR WAREHOUSE COMPONENT. 
          THINK OF LIKE A FERGUSON'S PLUMBING SUPPLY OR, UH, PODS. 
          IF YOU WANT TO USE A STORAGE CON CONTAINER, IT'S NOT NECESSARILY LIKE A 60 FOOT, UH, YOU KNOW, CONTAINER, BUT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IF U-HAUL OR SOMEBODY IS HELPING YOU MOVE OUTTA YOUR HOUSE, THEY'VE GOT A 20 BY, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER IT IS, 40 CONTAINER THAT THEY'RE PACKING UP, STORING IT, AND THEN MOVING IT TO THE NEXT, TO YOUR NEXT HOME. 
          THAT'S REALLY THE IDEA WITH SOME OF THESE. 
          SO THE PURPOSE OF A POD IS TO ALLOW THE CITY AN OPPORTUNITY TO NEGOTIATE WHAT THEY WANT TO DO WHEN THEY CHANGE THE ZONING AREA. 
          SO WHEN YOU'LL SAY THEY'RE GONNA PUT THESE PODS AND THINGS INSIDE THE BUILDING, IF THE PUD DOESN'T SPECIFICALLY SAY THAT, THEN WE DON'T REALLY HAVE THE CONTROL OVER THAT. 
          AND YOU SAY THAT YOU MAY REQUIRE 'EM, BUT THAT MAY NOT HAPPEN OR BE HERE. 
          I MEAN, THERE'S A REASON WHY IT'S FREEWAY CONSTRUCTION AND THE BIGGER ISSUE IS THERE'S A REASON WHY THE CITY HAS DESIGNATED A WAREHOUSE AREA ON I 10. 
          SO WE QUIT BUILDING THESE WAREHOUSE STRUCTURES AND NO MATTER WHAT YOU CALL IT, YOUR WAREHOUSING PRODUCTS AT THE END OF THE DAY. 
          AND THE BIGGER ISSUE IS, I JUST THINK THAT'S GONNA BE A SIGNIFICANT TRAFFIC IMPACT. 
          AND NOT JUST OF US HIGHLAND'S NOT IN IS HIGHLANDS IN OUR ETJ. 
          SAY AGAIN, IS HIGHLAND'S IN OUR E-T-G-E-T-J-E-T-J-D-T-J TAPE, GIMME SEEMS LIKE TO ME WE FIXING NOT, WE'RE FIXING TO PUT A PRETTY BIG IMPACT ON OUR NEIGHBORS OVER THERE, WHETHER THEY'RE IN OUR JURISDICTION OR NOT. 
          SO IT MEANS THIS IS SOMETHING WE NEED TO CONSIDER. 
          THAT'S ALL I GOT. 
          THANK YOU SIR. 
          COMMISSIONER CHAP. 
          MR. CARROLL? I THINK MR. KABUL. 
          OH, I'M SORRY. 
          YES, SIR. 
          I I WANTED TO ADD A LITTLE CLARITY. 
          UM, WHEN THE, UH, THE APPLICANT IDENTIFIED ABOUT THE RESTRICTIONS QUICKTRIP HAS ON THE LAND STAFF, UM, ASK THE APPLICANT ON MULTIPLE OCCASIONS JUST TO REACH OUT TO QUICKTRIP AGAIN, JUST TO CONFIRM IF THEY WERE WILLING TO RENEGOTIATE AND CHANGE THOSE. 
          AND THE APPLICANT REACHED OUT TO QUICKTRIP AND CONFIRM THAT THE RESTRICTIONS ARE NOT NEGOTIABLE. 
          AND THAT'S WHAT LED US FURTHER DOWN THE, THE PATH THAT THE APPLICANT ULTIMATELY DECIDED ON. 
          IN ADDITION, WE'VE HAD MULTIPLE CONVERSATIONS AS A TEAM, UH, PLANNING DEPARTMENT AND WITH THE APPLICANT LOOKING AT THE MYRIAD OF USE, MYRIAD OF USES THAT ARE ALLOWED UNDER FREEWAY COMMERCIAL. 
          AND WE IDENTIFIED THERE ARE USES, FOR INSTANCE, APARTMENT BUILDINGS THAT ARE ALLOWED WITHIN FREEWAY COMMERCIAL THAT WILL GAIN MORE TRAFFIC THAN THE INTENDED USE THE APPLICANT IS, UM, PROVIDING AS OF THIS MOMENT. 
          SO WE DID HAVE CONCERNS AND WE LOOKED AT THOSE THINGS AND ULTIMATELY WHAT THE APPLICANT PRESENTED TO US WAS A LEAST INTENSE USE IN TERMS OF TRAFFIC, WHAT IT'S ADDING TO THE AREA, WHICH WHY ULTIMATELY, UH, THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT AND STAFF AGREED WITH THE APPLICANT THAT THIS WAS MORE OF AN EFFICIENT USE AND A LESS INTENSE TRAFFIC, UH, CONCERN FOR THE AREA. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OH, QUICK, QUICK QUESTION. 
          WHAT, WHAT HAPPENS IF THE, THE, THE TRAFFIC IMPACT STUDY COMES BACK AND SAYS THERE'S JUST TOO MUCH TRAFFIC. 
          WHAT HAPPENS TO THIS PROJECT? BECAUSE THREE 30 AND I 10 IS A NIGHTMARE AT BETWEEN FOUR, IT'S A NIGHTMARE BETWEEN FOUR AND LIKE SEVEN. 
          IT'S FIVE ISH, RIGHT? SIX WHAT TO SEVEN . 
          WHAT HAPPENS MORNING? MORNING? WHAT HAPPENS TO YOUR PROJECT IS THE, THE MORNING YES. 
          STUDY COMES BACK AND IT'S, IS, IT'S NEGATIVE TO NOT CONDUCIVE TO THIS, UM, PRODUCT. 
          WHAT A, WHAT A TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS DOES. 
          UM, ONE, WHAT THE APPLICANT BRINGS TO THE TABLE, WHAT THE TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS WILL LOOK AT IS THE LEVEL OF SERVICE OF TRAFFIC ALONG A PARTICULAR 
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CORRIDOR AND WHAT THE END RESULT IS, THE EXPECTATION OF THE APPLICANT IS THEY DON'T CAUSE THE TRAFFIC IN THAT AREA TO BE WORSE. 
          SO WHAT THE TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS WILL DO, IT WILL COME BACK WITH CONCLUSIONS AND REMEDIES THAT THEY COULD PROVIDE THAT WOULD AT MINIMUM MITIGATE ANY WORSENING OF THE TRAFFIC IN THAT AREA. 
          SO THAT'S WHAT THE EXPECTATION WOULD BE FOR THE APPLICANT TO DO. 
          UH, THEY, THEY WOULDN'T BE EXPECTED TO IMPROVE THE TRAFFIC FROM WHAT IT IS EXISTING. 
          THEY'RE JUST LOOKED AT TO NOT MAKE IT WORSE. 
          SO THEY COME BACK WITH REMEDIES TO MITIGATE, TO HELP MITIGATE, TO NOT MAKE IT WORSE. 
          I, I HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION. 
          YES, MA'AM. 
          SO I WANNA SAY I APPRECIATE THE HARD WORK THAT YOU DID TO TRY TO MAKE IT NOT LOOK LIKE A WAREHOUSE, BECAUSE I KNOW THAT'S A BIG PROBLEM FOR THE CITY OF BAYTOWN OR THE, OR THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE HERE. 
          I LOVE THE FACT THAT WE ARE AN INDUSTRIAL TOWN THAT WE'RE JUST A FEW SECONDS AWAY FROM THE SHIP CHANNEL. 
          I, I LOVE THAT WE CAN LEAN INTO WHO WE ACTUALLY ARE AND CREATE REVENUE FOR THIS CITY. 
          SO I LIKE THIS PRODUCT. 
          UH, THERE IS TRAFFIC THERE, BUT DO WE HAVE ANY IDEA OF WHAT TECH TXDOT WITH THE TIMELINE FOR THE BRIDGE, BECAUSE THAT WOULD CHANGE EVERYTHING FOR THAT WHOLE AREA. 
          'CAUSE THAT'S REALLY THE PROBLEM, NOT YOUR PRODUCT, RIGHT? SURE. 
          AND, AND THEN I HAVE A SECOND QUESTION IF I'M COMING FROM HIGHLANDS, 'CAUSE LIKE SOMETIMES WHEN YOU'RE COMING INTO BAYTOWN YOU DIP A DIFFERENT WAY. 
          ARE YOU GUYS, YOU MENTIONED WALKING BACK AND FORTH FROM QUICKTRIP. 
          IS THERE GONNA BE A WAY TO DRIVE, LIKE FROM HIGHLANDS, TAKE A LEFT INTO THE QUICKTRIP UH, PARKING LOT AND THEN GO INTO YOUR PRODUCT? BECAUSE THAT WOULD ALLEVIATE SOME AS WELL. 
          IF PEOPLE ARE COMING FROM HOUSTON, THEY COULD GET UP ON FOUR CORNERS, HANG A LEFT AND THEN GO IN THAT DIRECTION. 
          SO, BECAUSE OTHERWISE IT'S KIND OF COMPLICATED TO GO EAST AND FLIP BACK AROUND TO GET THERE. 
          I WAS JUST WONDERING IF THERE WAS GONNA BE ANOTHER ACCESS POINT. 
          SURE. 
          VERY GOOD QUESTION. 
          YEAH. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THE, UH, GREAT, GREAT QUESTIONS. 
          UM, YEAH, I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE ONE THAT , WHILE YOU'RE DOING THAT, CAN I MAKE, JUST MAKE A COMMENT. 
          UM, I KNOW Y'ALL HAD MENTIONED THREE 30, UH, THE, IT LOOKS LIKE THE ONLY REAL WAY YOU CAN ACCESS IS GOING WEST WOULD BE I 10. 
          I 10. 
          THAT'S RIGHT. 
          SO IT WOULDN'T REALLY AFFECT THE TRAFFIC ON THREE 30. 
          AGREED. 
          I JUST WANNA MAKE THAT POINT. 
          Y'ALL CAN SEE THE QUICK TRIP IS THERE BECAUSE YOU CAN NO, THERE'S NO MERGE. 
          JUMP OFF AND GET ON THE HIGHLANDS TO GET ON THERE. 
          BUT IF YOU'RE COMING DOWN THREE 30, YOU CAN'T GO INTO THIS COMPLEX. 
          YOU HAVE TO GO. 
          ITS IN. 
          THAT IS CORRECT. 
          YEAH. 
          GOOD CATCH IT. 
          BE U-TURN FROM THOMPSON ROAD. 
          THERE'S THE TRUCKS ARE TO COME BACK AROUND. 
          BACK AROUND. 
          BUT, BUT THE CONCERN EARLIER WAS OVER THREE 30. 
          CORRECT. 
          AND THERE'S NO, IT'S, IT'S A WOULDN'T, WOULDN'T AFFECT THAT. 
          YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          I THINK TO PIGGYBACK, I THINK I WAS UNDER THE IMPRESSION A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, TEXDOT HAD A MEETING AT LEE COLLEGE. 
          I WAS UNDER THE IMPRESSION GIVEN, AND I COULD BE WRONG, THAT THIS PROJECT, THE I 10 WIDENING AND MAKING THE SAN JACINTO BRIDGE HIGHER WAS ON A MUCH FASTER PACE. 
          AND THAT WOULD TAKE SHAPE AROUND 27 OR 28. 
          I'M REALLY, YOU KNOW, DISAPPOINTED TO KNOW THAT TEXDOT HAS PUSHED THAT BACK TO 2030. 
          'CAUSE I KNOW SOME OF THE OTHER BUSINESSES ON THE FOUR CORNERS SOUTH SIDE, THE CONVENIENCE STORE AND THE BARBECUE PLACE, THEY HAVE BEEN IN TALKS WHERE THEY, YOU KNOW, TDO WAS ACQUIRING THEIR PROPERTY IN THE FUTURE MM-HMM . 
          SO IS THERE ANY WAY TO RE I I I MEAN TO REQUEST TECH STOCK TO SPEED UP THE PROCESS SO WE WOULD KNOW, YOU KNOW, WHAT WOULD BE, AND THEN I GUESS TO PIGGYBACK ON HER QUESTION, WOULD THERE BE ANOTHER ACCESS POINT TO GET INTO THE PROPERTY? YOU KNOW, I DON'T THINK HE GETS TO TELL T OH YEAH, I KNOW. 
          I WISH, I REALLY WISH I I DON'T, YOU CAN'T HANDLE THAT. 
          WHAT'S WRONG? IF YOU KNOW, T THAT'S A GREAT IDEA. 
          YOU KNOW, IT'S A REALLY GOOD IDEA. 
          IF YOU FIGURE OUT HOW TO DO THAT, LISTEN, LET US KNOW. 
          YES, PLEASE. 
          COME ON. 
          LISTEN, WE GOT A LIST. 
          IF YOU CAN DO THAT , LET'S ALL GO DO THAT TOGETHER. 
          SO IS THERE NO REAR ENTRANCES INTO THE PROPERTY? THAT'S WHAT, WHAT, IS THAT WHAT I HEARD YOU SAY? YES, THERE ARE, THERE ARE, THERE'S A, THERE'S AN ENTRANCE, THIS DRIVE OVER HERE, OH SHOOT, RIGHT THERE. 
          UH, ON THE SIDE, MAYBE WE CAN PULL UP AN AERIAL. 
          I MEAN THIS DRIVE BACK IN THE, IN THE NORTHWEST PORTION THAT CONNECTS OVER TO MAIN STREET. 
          OKAY? MM-HMM . 
          SO WE DO HAVE A SHARED, WE HAVE A SHARED DRIVE WITH QUAKER. 
          SO IF THEY'RE COMING DOWN EAST, IF THEY'RE, I MEAN, SO IF THEY'RE GOING WEST ON 10 TO GET IN THAT PROPERTY, THEY HAVE TO GET OFF ON THE FEEDERS AND COME DOWN TO FEEDER ROAD TO GET IN THERE, SIR. 
          AND THAT DOES MERGE WITH THE THREE 30 EXIT ON THE 10 RIGHT THERE. 
          AND THAT'S A BIG MERGE. 
          IT BACKS UP TRAFFIC REALLY WELL AT SOME POINT IN TIME. 
          SO THEY WOULD HAVE TO COME DOWN THERE BECAUSE THERE'S NO FRONT ENTRANCES, RIGHT? I DON'T, THERE'S NO ENTRANCES ON 10. 
          NO, NOT, NOT ON, ON THE ACCESS. 
          RATHER, THERE IS, WE'RE SHOWING THREE HERE. 
          IF TDOT TAKES THE RIGHT OF WAY, THEN WE WOULD HAVE AN ESTIMATED THREE CUTS UNLESS, AND THERE'S A CONTROL. 
          UNLESS THEY CHANGE THAT PLAN. 
          WHAT'S THAT? UNLESS TDOT 
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CHANGES THAT, WHICH IS A POSSIBILITY AS WELL. 
          I MEAN, THEY'VE, THEY'VE CHANGED IT, YOU KNOW, SEVERAL TIMES. 
          I THINK AT ONE POINT THEY WANTED TO TAKE MORE RIGHT OF WAY. 
          THEY WANTED TO USE PART OF, PART OF IT FOR THEIR OWN DETENTION POND. 
          UH, I MEAN, IT, IT COULD CHANGE, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T KNOW. 
          THAT'S THE PROBLEM WITH TECH STOCK. 
          LEMME TAKE A SECOND TO REMIND EVERYBODY THAT WHAT WE ARE DISCUSSING IS ABOUT THE LAND USE AND, AND A VALID POINT. 
          THE LAND USE AND THE TRANSPORTATION AND THE TRAFFIC AND ALL THAT. 
          THEY'RE ALL VERY, VERY DEEPLY RELATED HERE. 
          BUT AT THE SAME TIME, IF, IF THERE'S ANOTHER ENTITY THAT HAS JURISDICTION THAT WE DON'T HAVE ANY CONTROL OVER IT, IT IS, I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE NOT HOLDING THE, THE PROPERTY OWNERS AND THE APPLICANTS TO A STANDARD THAT WE CAN'T HAVE ANY CONTROL OVER AND THAT THEY CAN'T HAVE ANY CONTROL OVER EITHER. 
          SO, UM, SO JUST KIND OF JUST KEEP THAT IN MIND AS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS YES, THAT IS RELEVANT. 
          EVERYTHING YOU'VE BROUGHT UP IS RELEVANT. 
          UM, BUT, BUT SAYING, I MEAN, LIKE, SO IF WE ARE IN ESSENCE SING, WE GOTTA WAIT UNTIL 30 30 BEFORE WE MAKE A DECISION THAT THAT'S, THAT, THAT, THAT CAN'T HAPPEN. 
          SO, UM, SO JUST A REMINDER TO EVERYBODY, I WANT MAKE SURE WE KIND OF STAY ON TRACK IN TERMS OF THE, OF THE CONVERSATION. 
          MADAM CHAIR, I'D TO CALL FOR A VOTE. 
          UM, COMMISSIONER CARROLL, DID YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS, QUESTIONS? I DO NOT. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          . 
          I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE. 
          I SECOND IT. 
          ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. 
          AYE. 
          ANY OPPOSED? NO. 
          ANY ABSTENTIONS? UH, THE MOTION CARRIES ITEM THREE A TO AMEND THE OFFICIAL ZONING MAP TO ON APPROXIMATELY 20 23, 6 ACRES FROM FREEWAY COMMERCIAL TO PUD. 
          THANK YOU, SIR. 
          ITEM THREE 
          [b.  Conduct a public hearing and consider a request for a proposed text amendment to Chapter 111, Unified Land Development Code (ULDC), of the Baytown Code of Ordinances to revise Division 2.3 Use Standards and Division 10.2 Definitions of the ULDC, regarding Short-Term Rentals (STRs) operation within residential and mixed-use zoning districts.]
B ZONING CO CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDER A REQUEST FOR PROPOSED TEXT AMENDMENT TO CHAPTER ONE 11, UNIFIED LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE OF THE BAYTOWN CODE OF ORDINANCES TO REVISE DIVISION 2.3, USE STANDARDS AND DIVISION 10.2 DEFINITIONS OF THE ULDC REGARDING SHORT TERM RENTALS OPERATIONS WITHIN THE RESIDENTIAL AND ZONING DISTRICT. 
          UM, I CLOSED THE PUBLIC HEARING. 
          DID I CLOSE THE PREVIOUS ONE? YES, YOU, I DID. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OKAY, OPEN. 
          UH, IT'S NOW 5 43. 
          THANK YOU. 
          TIM PM AND I CALLED TO ORDER THIS PUBLIC HEARING ITEM THREE B, UH, CALVIN ABRAM PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT. 
          UH, WHAT YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU IS, UM, A SHORT TERM RENTAL, UH, TEXT AMENDMENT FOR OUR UNIFIED LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE. 
          A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE HISTORY OF THIS, UH, THE 2014 UNIFIED LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE IS SILENT ON SHORT TERM RENTAL. 
          UM, AND AS OF LATE, UM, THE 2025 ULTC WAS APPROVED IN, UH, 2024. 
          IT BECAME ACTIVE IN JANUARY OF 2025. 
          DURING THAT TIME, WE HAD OUR FIRST SPECIAL USE PERMIT, WHICH WAS ON ASHWOOD DRIVE THAT CAME BEFORE THIS BODY AND THE CITY COUNCIL. 
          FROM THAT, WE IDENTIFIED SEVERAL THINGS. 
          UH, WE SAW THE PROCESS, HOW LONG THE PROCESS TOOK. 
          WE SAW THE CITIZEN'S CONCERN, I THINK THIS PLANNING COMMISSION AS WELL AS THE CITY COM. 
          UH, CITY COUNCIL SHARED THEIR CONCERNS AND WE HEARD THAT CONCERN FROM THE PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT. 
          SO WHAT WE DID, UH, AS A TEAM, WE WORKED TOGETHER TO DO A STUDY. 
          UH, WE REACHED OUT TO SEVERAL CITIES, UM, AMONGST, UH, WITHIN PROXIMITY OF, UM, BAYTOWN. 
          AND WE, WE EXPANDED OUR RESEARCH A LITTLE FURTHER. 
          WE REACHED OUT TO THOSE CITIES AND WE ESSENTIALLY INTERVIEWED THEM. 
          WE ASKED, YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE THEY DOING WITH THEIR SHORT TERM RENTALS? WHY ARE THEY DOING OR THE DECISIONS THEY MADE? WHAT'S WORKING, WHAT ISN'T WORKING? IF THEY HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO CHANGE ANYTHING, WHAT WOULD THEY DO? AND WE LOOKED AT ALL OF THAT, AND WE'VE TAKEN THAT INFORMATION IN AS A TEAM. 
          WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IT TOGETHER. 
          AND WHAT WE'RE PRESENTING TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION TODAY IS THE RESULTS OF THAT CONVERSATION AND HOW WE'RE MOVING FORWARD. 
          UM, WITH THAT BEING SAID, UH, WE'RE ASKING FOR A COUPLE OF THINGS. 
          UH, ONE IS MORE OF A CLEANUP ITEM. 
          UH, WE'RE ASKING TO AMEND THE DEFINITION OF SHORT TERM RENTALS. 
          UH, PARTS OF THE ULDC, YOU SEE, IT IDENTIFIES A SHORT TERM RENTAL AS 28 DAYS, A RENTAL OF 28 DAYS OR LESS. 
          IN OTHER PARTS OF THE ULDC, YOU SEE 30 DAYS OR LESS. 
          SO THAT'S THE FIRST CLEANUP ITEM. 
          WE'RE MAKING CERTAIN IT'S CONSISTENT TO SAY 30 DAYS OR LESS. 
          AND THAT'S ONE OF THE FIRST, UM, CLEANUP ITEMS WE'RE DOING WITH THAT. 
          AND IN TERMS OF SHORT-TERM RENTALS, WE'RE LOOKING AT TYPICALLY HOW ARE SHORT-TERM RENTALS USED. 
          UM, YOU HAVE THE OWNER OCCUPIED SHORT-TERM RENTAL WHERE THE PERSON IS ESSENTIALLY STAYING IN THE HOME AND RENTING 
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OUT ROOMS. YOU HAVE THE UNOCCUPIED WHERE A PERSON IS RENTING OUT THE ENTIRE HOUSE, AND THEN ALSO YOU HAVE THEM AS, UM, VACATION HOMES. 
          UM, AND AS YOU CAN SEE ON THIS SLIDE HERE, SHORT TERM RENTALS AS OF THIS MOMENT WITHIN THE 2025 UNIFIED LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE ARE BASICALLY ALLOWED IN MOST RESIDENTIAL ZONING DISTRICTS, BUT WITH A SPECIAL USE PERMIT. 
          UM, SAME DIFFERENCE. 
          WHEN WE LOOK AT THE SHORT TERM RENTALS, THE UNIFIED LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE CALLS OUT, THEY HAVE TO PAY A HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAX. 
          UM, WE HAVEN'T NECESSARILY IDENTIFIED THE PROCESS AND HOW TO MAKE THAT WORK BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T HAD APPLICATIONS FOR A SPECIAL USE PERMIT FOR SHORT TERM RENTALS UNTIL RECENTLY. 
          SO THE FIRST ONE WE HAVE COMING THROUGH, WE IDENTIFY THERE MAY BE SOME GAPS AND SOME SHORTFALLS THAT WE CAN IMPROVE AT AND THROUGH THIS AMENDMENT IS HOW WE ARE CORRECTING THOSE TYPE OF SHORTCOMINGS. 
          UM, RIGHT NOW, HOW DO WE IDENTIFY SHORT TERM RENTALS? IT'S ESSENTIALLY COMPLAINT DRIVEN. 
          SOMEONE IS DISAPPOINTED, THEY FEEL THERE'S SOME ISSUES GOING ON, THEY'RE REPORTED, THEN IT GETS BACK. 
          AND THEN WE START THE CODE ENFORCEMENT PROCESS, WHICH THEN AS WE SAW WITH ASHWOOD DRIVE, MOVES FORWARD, THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT. 
          AND THEN WE GET TO HAVE THE CITIZENS COME OUT AND TELL US HOW GREAT SHORT TERM RENTALS ARE. 
          AND THEN YOU MAKE YOUR DETERMINATION IN CITY COUNCIL. 
          SO WITH THAT, OUTSIDE OF THAT, WE SEE SHORT TERM RENTALS. 
          AS OF TODAY, THEY'RE ESSENTIALLY SUBJECTIVE AND WE DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE A CLEAR PATH ON WHAT'S THE CITY'S EXPECTATIONS, WHAT'S THE PROCESSES TO BE USED? AND WE CAN DO A BETTER JOB AT EXPLAINING TO THE PUBLIC WHAT, UH, AN ENTITY OR AN INDIVIDUAL WHO WANTS TO RENT A SHORT TERM RENTAL, WHAT ARE THE THINGS THEY'RE EXPECTED TO DO. 
          UM, AND AGAIN, WITH A SPECIAL USE PERMIT AS A LONGER TIMELINES IN ORDER TO GET THAT. 
          UH, IN TERMS OF STAFF TIME, WE PLACE A LOT OF TIME AND EFFORT. 
          IF WE'RE LOOKING AT CODE ENFORCEMENT AS OF HOW IT'S DONE TODAY AS A USUALLY REPORT. 
          SO THAT'S STAFF TIME ON THEIR END. 
          ON THE PLANNING SIDE THAT THE MEETINGS WE'RE HAVING, IT'S A LOT OF TIME. 
          AND IN ADDITION TO THE TIME WE'RE SPENDING BEFORE YOU AND YOUR TIME THAT YOU'RE SPENDING AS WELL AS THE CITY COUNCIL, IT'S A LOT OF TIME THAT GOES INTO THAT. 
          SO IN TERMS OF COST EFFECTIVENESS, IT'S NOT THE MOST EFFICIENT USE OF, UH, THE PUBLIC'S TIME AND OR, UH, CITY'S TIME. 
          UM, IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE DON'T RIGHT NOW HAVE A WAY OF TRACKING WHERE THE SHORT TERM RENTALS ARE. 
          WE DON'T HAVE THE CAPACITY IN TERMS OF STAFF TO IDENTIFY THAT. 
          AND WE DON'T HAVE THE MECHANISM AS OF THIS MOMENT TO PLACE THOSE IN A, IN A, IN A DIGITAL DOCUMENT OR THROUGH OUR GEOGRAPHIC INFORMATION SYSTEMS TO IDENTIFY WHERE THOSE LOCATIONS ARE. 
          UM, AND THAT'S WHERE WE ARE AT THIS MOMENT WHERE WE WANT TO BE, UH, WHERE WE WANT TO BE IS WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO WORK WITH AN ENTITY TO BE ABLE TO CAPTURE THE INFORMATION AND TO TRACK WHERE THOSE SHORT-TERM RENTAL ARE. 
          WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO IDENTIFY HOW OFTEN THEY'RE RENTING, WHAT ARE THE RATES THEY'RE CHARGING, SO AT THE END OF THE YEAR, THEY CAN PAY THE ADEQUATE AMOUNT OF HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAX, UM, IN ADDITION REGISTRATION AND COMPLIANCE. 
          YOU KNOW, WHAT DO THEY NEED TO DO? HOW DOES THE NEIGHBORS WHO ARE AROUND THEM, WHAT ARE THE METHODS OR WHAT ARE THE METRICS THAT THEY HAVE FOR THEIR EXPECTATIONS? UM, SO, AND THIS IS WHAT THROUGH THE REGI REGISTRATION AND COMPLIANCE, IT MAKES IT CLEAR AND IDENTIFIED IN ADDITION, A SAFETY AND INSPECTION AND MAKE CERTAIN THE SHORT TERM RENTALS HAVE THE NECESSARY THINGS FOR SAFETY, LIFE, UH, SECURITY WITHIN THOSE AREAS. 
          UH, WORKING WITH A THIRD PARTY AT NO CHARGE, WE WERE ABLE TO GET, UH, THIS IMAGE THAT YOU SEE IN FRONT OF YOU. 
          AND RIGHT NOW THEY'RE SHARING THAT IT'S APPROXIMATELY 88 SHORT-TERM RENTAL PROPERTIES EXISTING IN THE CITY OF BAYTOWN. 
          AS OF THIS MOMENT, UH, THEY DON'T, THOSE RENTALS DON'T HAVE CLEAR GUIDANCE ON WHAT THEY SHOULD DO. 
          UH, THE PUBLIC DOESN'T HAVE NECESSARILY ANY MECHANISMS TO SHARE WITH THEM WHAT THEIR EXPECTATIONS SHOULD BE, COULD BE AND WHAT'S REASONABLE. 
          SO PART OF THE CRITERIA THAT WE'RE BRINGING BEFORE YOU IS IN TERMS OF SHORT TERM RENTAL, WE ARE PROPOSING THAT SHORT TERM RENTALS ARE ALLOWED BY A LIMITED USE IN EVERY RESIDENTIAL ZONING DISTRICT. 
          AND I KNOW FROM THE, FROM THE GET GO, IT SOUNDS LIKE, WELL, THEY CAN JUST GO ANYWHERE. 
          HOWEVER, SHORT ANSWER YES, HOWEVER LONGER ANSWER. 
          BUT IT'S A PROCESS TO GET THERE. 
          FOR INSTANCE, UH, ONE OF THE REQUIREMENTS WOULD BE 
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FOR EACH ROOM OR THE OVERALL DEVELOPMENT. 
          SO IF A HOME HAS FOUR BEDROOMS, THEY WANNA RENT TWO OF THE BEDROOMS OUT, THEY HAVE TO HAVE ONE PARKING SPACE FOR EACH ROOM RENTED PLUS ONE. 
          SO IF THEY'RE RENTING TWO ROOMS, THEY NEED THREE PARKING SPACES. 
          WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? IT IT SHOULD REDUCE THE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC FOR SHORT TERM RENTALS THAT'S PARKING ON STREET. 
          IT REQUIRES THOSE APPLICANTS WHO ARE GOING TO DO SHORT TERM RENTALS TO HAVE THOSE PARKING, THOSE VEHICLES TO PARK ON THE PROPERTY. 
          SO WHAT DOES THAT DO IN PARTICULAR AREAS THAT DON'T HAVE PARKING PADS OR, UH, DRIVE AISLES? WELL, THEY CAN'T DO SHORT-TERM RENTALS AND AREAS THAT WANT TO DO THEM. 
          THEY NEED TO BE ABLE TO HAVE THAT OFF STREET PARKING, SO PER THE ROOM. 
          SO THAT ALLOWS US TO BETTER MANAGE THEM. 
          IT ALLOWS BY ORGANICALLY WHERE THE SHORT-TERM RENTALS CAN BE PLACED. 
          IN ADDITION TO THAT, UM, AS I IDENTIFIED, THERE ARE SEVERAL CRITERIA FOR THE PROPOSED ORDINANCES. 
          UH, A YEARLY REGISTRATION, WHICH COMES WITH PERMITTING FEES. 
          UH, THERE'S AN ANNUAL INSPECTION, UM, FOR THE INITIAL, UH, WHEN SOMEONE SUBMITS AN APPLICATION, THEY HAVE TO HAVE AN INSPECTION. 
          NOW THAT INSPECTION COULD GO HAPPEN MORE OFTEN IF THERE ARE CITIZEN'S COMPLAINTS OR WHATNOT, THAT WILL REQUIRE, UH, STAFF WHO EVER WE'RE WORKING WITH TO IDENTIFY THERE ARE SOME DIFFICULTIES SO THAT THAT COULD TRIGGER MORE INSPECTIONS. 
          UM, IN ADDITION TO THAT, IN TERMS OF SAFETY TO MAKE CERTAIN, THERE'S CARBON DIOXIDE, UM, UH, MONITORING AND OTHER THINGS, WE CAN'T, WE DON'T ENFORCE OR MAKE A PERSON HAVE A NOISE, UM, UH, SOUND MONITORING, I'M SORRY. 
          UH, BUT WE SUGGEST THEY HAVE SOME ITEM TO DO THAT. 
          IN ADDITION TO, UM, SIGNAGE IN TURN INTERNALLY TO THE SHORT TERM RENTAL, WHAT IDENTIFIES THIS IS WHO TO CALL IN CASE YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE AN EMERGENCY. 
          AND THAT PERSON HAS TO BE WITH, I THINK WITHIN AN HOUR OF, UM, GOING TO THAT SHORT TERM RENTAL. 
          SO IT DOES A, A COUPLE OF THINGS. 
          IT GIVES THE TENANT AN AVENUE WHO TO CONTACT, AND THEN IF THERE'S THE COMMUNITY THERE WHO HAS COMPLAINTS OR WHATNOT, THEN THAT TENANT KNOWS WHO TO CALL TO ADDRESS THOSE COMPLAINTS. 
          UM, AND, UH, AS WELL AS, AS AN OCCUPANCY LIMIT, UM, IT'S A MAXIMUM OF 10, UM, PEOPLE TO THE SHORT TERM RENTAL. 
          HOWEVER, THAT IS BASED UPON THE NUMBER OF ROOMS THAT'S BEING RENTED OUT. 
          SO THE NUMBER OF ROOMS YOU CAN HAVE TWO PEOPLE PLUS TWO. 
          SO IF YOU HAVE TWO ROOMS, SIX PEOPLE, UM, THERE'S BEEN SEVEN. 
          THERE'S A ESSENTIALLY SEVEN CRITERIA THAT'S IDENTIFIED THAT WE BRING BEFORE YOU. 
          UM, WHEN WE'RE ASKING FOR A, AN IMPROVEMENT AND AN APPROVAL FOR TEXT AMENDMENT, UH, HOWEVER, NOT GOING OVER ALL SEVEN OF THEM, WE'RE IDENTIFYING THAT, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE ARE BRINGING BEFORE YOU. 
          IT ENSURES THAT THE CITY OF BAYTOWN CAN, UM, IDENTIFY THAT THE APPLICANT WILL ADHERE TO THE LOCAL ORDINANCES, STATE LAWS, AND FEDERAL LAWS. 
          IT ALLOWS US TO MANAGE GROWTH IN A MANNER, IN A, A TREND OF SHORT-TERM RENTALS THAT ARE NEEDED THAT HAPPENS IN THE VAST MAJORITY OF CITIES IN, IN AMERICA. 
          AND IT ALLOWS US A TOOL IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO BETTER REGULATE THOSE, UH, THROUGH THE INSPECTIONS. 
          IT ALLOWS US THE ABILITY TO MAIN HEALTH, SAFETY AND, UH, TYPICAL LIFE THINGS FOR THOSE PROPERTIES AND ULTIMATELY ALLOWS THE CITY TO BE PROACTIVE WITH OUR SHORT-TERM RENTALS. 
          IT ALLOWS US TO BETTER TO GUIDE THOSE DEVELOPMENT, GIVE THEM CLEAR DIRECTION ON HOW THEY SHOULD MOVE FORWARD, WHAT THE CITY EXPECTS THEM TO MOVE FORWARD, AS WELL AS IDENTIFYING THE CONCERNS THAT WE HEARD FROM THE PUBLIC, FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND THE CITY COUNCIL. 
          UH, WITH THAT, UH, STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT PLANNING AND ZONING, UH, PROVIDE AN APPROVAL, UH, FOR THIS, UH, TEXT AMENDMENT. 
          AND THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION. 
          THANK YOU, CALVIN. 
          WAS ANYONE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK IN THIS ONE? NO. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THERE WON'T BE NO ONE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK CLOSE THIS PUBLIC HEARING AT 5:55 PM REGARDING THE ULDC AMENDMENT REGARDING SHORT TERM RENTALS. 
          ANY DISCUSSION FROM THE COMMISSION? UH, I HAVE A QUESTION. 
          SO YOU HAD AN EXAMPLE OF THE ALLEN BROOK PROPERTY THAT ASKED FOR A SPECIAL USE PERMIT. 
          I BELIEVE WE TURNED IT 
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DOWN, BUT THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVED IT, RIGHT? RIGHT. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT'S CORRECT. 
          SO, UM, SO WHAT ARE THEY HAVING TO DO IF WE DON'T HAVE A PROPOSAL? WHAT IS THAT PROPERTY OWNER HAVING TO DO? UH, BECAUSE OF THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT RIGHT NOW? RIGHT NOW, THE CONDITIONS UPON THAT SPECIAL USE, UM, PERMIT IDENTIFIES SEVERAL THINGS THEY HAVE TO DO IN TERMS OF, YOU KNOW, KEEPING THE PROPERTY UP TO DATE AND IT'S AN ADDITIONAL CONDITION THAT CALLS OUT WHATEVER, UM, FUTURE, UH, RECOMMENDATIONS OR, AND I'M PARAPHRASING, FUTURE RECOMMENDATIONS OR AMENDMENTS TO THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE, THEY WOULD HAVE TO COMPLY WITH THAT AS WELL. 
          SO IF THIS WAS APPROVED, THIS GIVES MORE STREAMLINED AND CLEAR, UH, DETERMINATION ON WHAT THEY CAN AND CANNOT DO. 
          SO, UM, THE PEOPLE THAT PUT THESE PROPERTIES UP FOR RENT ARE IN IT TO MAKE MONEY. 
          WHAT, WHAT INCENTIVE DO THEY HAVE TO EVEN ASK FOR A SPECIAL USE PERMIT IF THERE'S NO ENFORCEMENT? WELL, WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT RIGHT NOW, WE'RE WORKING, WE'RE ACTUALLY INTERVIEWING AND TALKING TO MULTIPLE THIRD PARTY CONSULTANTS TO IDENTIFY THE PRODUCTS THAT THEY CAN PROVIDE, HOW THEY CAN MANAGE THE PROCESS IN TERMS OF TRACKING, UH, HOTEL OCCUPANCY, TAXES, AND, UH, COMMUNICATION TO, UH, ALLOW APPLICANTS TO BE MORE, UM, IN ALIGNED WITH WHATEVER THE UNIFIED LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE IT DOES. 
          MY QUESTION IS, IF WE DON'T KNOW WHO OWNED WHO, WHO'S RUNNING A SHORT TERM RENTAL RIGHT NOW, HOW ARE WE GONNA IDENTIFY THEM BESIDE LOOKING ON THE WEBSITES AND HOW ARE WE GONNA REGULATE IT? I KNOW THE THIRD PARTIES ARE GONNA COLLECT THE MONEY, BUT HOW ARE THEY GOING TO IDENTIFY WHO, WHICH HOUSE IS A SHORT TERM RENTAL? WELL, WE'VE WORKED WELL, WE'VE TALKED TO, UH, AT LEAST TWO, UH, THIRD CONSULTANTS, THIRD PARTY CONSULTANTS AS OF THIS MOMENT. 
          AND THEY HAVE, LIKE ONE OF THE PICTURES I SHOWED, THEY HAVE TRACKING SYSTEMS OR THAT THEY USE TO IDENTIFY THAT THEY LOOK ON VRBO, THEY LOOK ON, UH, AIRBNB, AND I THINK IT'S A THIRD LARGER, UH, COMPANY THAT, UH, RENTAL, UH, AGENCY THAT THEY LOOK ON. 
          AND TO MY UNDERSTANDING, THEY TRACK THOSE AND UPDATE THOSE AT LEAST EVERY 10 DAYS. 
          UM, AND THEN ONE IN PARTICULAR WE WERE HAVING A CONVERSATION WITH, UH, ONCE THEY IDENTIFY THOSE, THEY TRACK THEM DAILY WHEN THEY RENT. 
          UM, SO THEY'RE NOT ONLY LOOKING FOR WHEN THEY'RE ACTIVE, THEY LOOK AT THE AMOUNT THEY'RE CHARGING, AND THEY DO THAT UPDATING EVERY TIME THEY RENT THAT, AND WE NOTIFY THEM THAT THEY ARE BEING TRACKED. 
          UH, I DON'T KNOW THE PROCESS THEY USE AS OF THIS MOMENT. 
          FULL STOP. 
          I, I DO WANNA POINT OUT THAT, OKAY, SO REALLY WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS ENFORCEMENT OF THE CODE. 
          SO REGARDLESS OF HOW WE DO THE ENFORCEMENT, SO WITH THE, THE ORDINARILY WHAT WE DO TO ENFORCE OUR CODE, AND THIS WOULD FOLLOW A SIMILAR PROCESS, IS THAT WE WOULD HAVE STAFF THAT ARE DEDICATED TO DOING JUST THIS. 
          NOW, CURRENTLY, WE DON'T HAVE STAFF ENOUGH STAFF TO, TO COVER THAT. 
          SO WE ARE LOOKING AT, AS CALVIN MENTIONED, WE'RE LOOKING AT A THIRD PARTY. 
          THERE ARE SEVERAL OUT THERE THAT DO THIS, THIS IS THEIR BUSINESS. 
          I, WE COULDN'T SAY EXACTLY HOW THEY GET ABSOLUTELY EVERYTHING DONE, BUT WE DO KNOW THAT THEY'RE EFFECTIVE. 
          WE KNOW THAT OTHER CITIES ARE USING THEM. 
          SO THAT IS ONE OPTION THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT. 
          UM, WITH HOPEFULLY THE, THE, THE HOPE IS THAT IF WE DO THAT, THEN THE FEE THAT IS CHARGED FOR THESE, THAT THAT WILL COVER THE MAJORITY, IF NOT ALL OF THE COST OF THAT THIRD PARTY TO DO THE WORK. 
          AGAIN, WE'RE HEARING FROM OTHER CITIES, WE TALKED TO 12 DIFFERENT CITIES AROUND THE STATE, AND WE ARE HEARING FROM OTHER CITIES, CITIES THAT THEY, THEY ALMOST ALWAYS PAY FOR THEMSELVES, IF NOT, YOU KNOW, IF NOT ALL THE TIME. 
          SO, UM, AGAIN, IF WE WANTED TO JUST HIRE DEDICATED STAFF AND WORK IT THROUGH OUR SYSTEM, WE COULD DO THAT. 
          BUT THAT WOULD BE A MUCH HIGHER COST TO THE CITY, WE BELIEVE, AND A LOT MORE, UM, A LOT MORE HASSLE. 
          WE, WE'D BE REINVENTING THE WHEEL BECAUSE THESE GUYS, THAT'S THEIR BUSINESS. 
          THAT'S WHAT THEY DO. 
          SO WHETHER IT'S EFFECTIVE OR NOT IS SOMETHING THAT WE WILL DEAL ON A POLICY LEVEL, UM, AND, AND FIGURE OUT HOW TO DO THAT ENFORCEMENT. 
          SO, UM, THANK YOU. 
          I WANTED TO GIVE YOU THAT REASSURANCE. 
          COMMISSIONERS, ANY OTHER COMMENTS? YEAH, I, I, I GUESS I NEED TO BACK WAY UP HERE BECAUSE AS A HUGE CONSUMER OF SHORT-TERM RENTALS, I TRAVEL WITH MY FAMILY AND I USE SHORT-TERM RENTALS ON THE REGULAR. 
          I JUST FIND IT INTERESTING, SOME OF THIS, LIKE THE, THE NEED TO DO INSPECTIONS, THAT IS SUCH A WASTE OF TIME AND OPPORTUNITY. 
          ANYBODY THAT HAS A SHORT TERM RENTAL IS GONNA MAKE IT THE BEST POSSIBLE BECAUSE THEY WANT THE BEST AMOUNT OF MONEY OUT THERE. 
          THEY'RE GONNA MAKE IT AS BOUTIQUEY, AS CLEAN, AS AMAZING AS IT'S GONNA BE THE BEST HOUSE ON THE STREET. 
          SO IF YOU'RE GONNA GO AND DO INSPECTIONS 
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ON RENTALS, YOU NEED TO LOOK AT LONG-TERM RENTALS. 
          LIKE THAT DOESN'T EVEN MAKE ANY SENSE TO ME. 
          THAT'S, IT'S A HUGE OVERREACH. 
          I, I, I DON'T, AND IT, AND IT'S WASTEFUL. 
          I, I DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT AT ALL. 
          AND THEN I JUST, AND THEN THE 30 DAY THING, LIKE, OKAY, SO WE'VE GOT SOME BIG THINGS COMING UP IN HOUSTON. 
          IF I WANNA SHORT TERM RENTAL MY HOUSE FOR FIFA COMING IN AND JUST DO IT FOR THAT. 
          I MEAN, I MEAN, I WANNA, I MIGHT WANNA JUST DO IT FOR THOSE TWO WEEKS AND I'LL GO TO BALI OR SOMETHING LIKE YOU, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? LIKE, I, I, THIS IS, I DON'T THINK THIS IS CONCEIVABLY, UM, SOMETHING THAT YOU GUYS CAN REMOTELY CONTROL. 
          AND I MEAN, SO IF I WANTED, IF I WANNA DO THAT FOR MY HOUSE IN A FEW MONTHS, WHEN, WHEN THE, THE DEAL COMES, LIKE, I, I GOTTA COME GET A PERMIT FOR THAT. 
          IT'S TEMPORARY. 
          AND THEN THE PARKING, AND LIKE, WHEN I TRAVEL WITH MY FAMILY, IT'S USUALLY ONE BIG, HUGE CAR. 
          NOT A BUNCH OF CARS, BUT THERE'S 12 OF US. 
          I MEAN, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? SO LIKE, SOME OF THIS JUST, IT JUST SEEMS THAT THIS IS SOMEONE WHO IS NOT A CONSUMER OF THIS PRODUCT. 
          THIS IS NOT WRITTEN AS IF SOMEBODY'S CONSUMING THIS BECAUSE IT, IT JUST, IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE. 
          IT JUST DOESN'T MAKE SENSE. 
          AND SHORT-TERM RENTALS ARE NOT THE DEVIL. 
          THEY'RE REALLY, REALLY WONDERFUL PRODUCTS. 
          AND, UM, AND I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND WHERE WE KIND OF FLIP THE SCRIPT ON THIS AS IF THE HOUSES ARE GONNA BE RUN DOWN AND IT'S GONNA BE A BUNCH OF DERELICT PEOPLE DOING SHORT-TERM RENTALS. 
          THAT'S NOT, WHO SPENDS 6, 7, 8, $900 A NIGHT  TO RENT THESE THINGS, RIGHT? SO I, I'M A LITTLE CONFUSED BY ALL OF THIS AND THE WORDING AND, AND, AND ALL OF THAT, THE HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAX. 
          I'M LIKE, WHAT? LIKE, YOU KNOW, AND THEN OF COURSE THE RENTAL, LIKE, THERE'S NOT SOMETHING IN HERE, EVEN TALKING ABOUT A NEW PRODUCT, A FAIRLY NEW PRODUCT CALLED PAD SPLIT, WHEREAS EXACTLY WHAT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT WHERE THEY TAKE A HOUSE AND THEY RENT EACH AND EVERY INDIVIDUAL ROOM AND, AND THEY MAKE MONEY, UH, DOING THAT. 
          IT'S A BIG THING IN INDUSTRIAL TOWNS. 
          THERE'S PROBABLY A WHOLE LOT OF 'EM IN THIS TOWN THAT WE DON'T EVEN KNOW ABOUT. 
          SO I JUST THINK IF YOU GET TOO FAR IN THE WEEDS OF TRYING TO BE A GOVERNMENTAL OVERREACH, UH, HOW IN THE WORLD YOU COULD SPEND ALL YOUR DAY, EVERY DAY DOING THIS, AND THEN THE ONLY PEOPLE THAT ARE GONNA BE AFFECTED BY IT IS THE PEOPLE THAT ACTUALLY FOLLOW THE RULES. 
          RIGHT. 
          I, I THINK WE, WHEN I, I WANNA AGREE WITH YOU AND SAY THAT WE'RE DOING, I FEEL LIKE WE'RE OVERREGULATING SOMETHING THAT DOESN'T NEED TO BE OVERREGULATED. 
          I, I STAY, I SAID A LOT OF WORDS TO SAY THAT . 
          YEAH. 
          I STAY AT, AT, AT A LOT OF THOSE PLACES TOO, AND IN DIFFERENT CITIES. 
          AND NOT ONLY IN THIS COUNTRY, WHEN I GO TO MEXICO MM-HMM . 
          I STAY AT 'EM. 
          AND, AND THE ONES THAT I STAY AT, IT'S EXACTLY THAT. 
          THEY'RE TRYING TO MAKE SURE THEY GET YOUR MONEY AGAIN AND, AND AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN. 
          AND THERE'S HOMES THAT WE, WHEN WE VISIT MY WIFE'S FAMILY IN BROWNSVILLE, WE STAY AT THE SAME HOME. 
          MM-HMM . 
          BECAUSE THEY HAVE HANDICAPPED ACCOMMODATIONS FROM MY FATHER-IN-LAW, BECAUSE THEY HAVE THIS, THIS, AND THIS. 
          IT'S IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT WE LIKE. 
          AND, AND IT'S CLOSE TO HER FAMILY TOO. 
          MY WIFE'S FAMILY. 
          I, I DON'T, I FEEL LIKE SOMETIMES WE HAVE OPPORTUNITIES IN BAYTOWN BECAUSE WE'RE CLOSE ENOUGH TO HOUSTON. 
          MM-HMM . 
          WE'RE IN THE MIDDLE OF INDUSTRY. 
          WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE STARTING TO DO PROJECTS THAT ARE GONNA MAKE US LOOK GOOD. 
          LIKE THE STUFF ON ITS END VECTOR, ALL THIS. 
          AND WE'RE STILL STILL PLAYING. 
          WE'RE, WE'RE TRYING TO STAY BACK. 
          PART OF IT'S TRYING TO STAY BACK. 
          I, I DON'T, I THINK THAT IT'S KIND OF ONE OF THESE THINGS, LIKE WITH BUSINESS REGULATES ITSELF SOMETIMES, WHERE IF YOU DON'T HAVE A GOOD PRODUCT, NOBODY'S GONNA WANNA STAY THERE. 
          NOBODY'S GONNA RENT IT, AND YOU'RE JUST GONNA LOSE MONEY ON A PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT YOU PUT A BUNCH OF MONEY IN. 
          I KNOW THAT WE TALKED ABOUT IT BECAUSE SOMEBODY HAD A PARTY IN SOME NEAR SOMEBODY'S HOUSE AND EVERYBODY GOT UPSET, BUT THAT'S NOT THE NORM. 
          AND THAT PERSON'S GETS A BAD REVIEW, AND THEN PEOPLE DON'T WANNA RENT TO THEM ANYMORE. 
          IT, IT GOES BOTH WAYS. 
          SO I, I AGREE WITH YOU. 
          SO I, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR, FOR, FOR YOU COMMISSIONERS. 
          UM, SO NUMBER ONE, UM, I THINK EVERYONE, UM, EXCEPT FOR COMMISSIONER SINGH WAS AT THE HEARING BACK IN NOVEMBER, OCTOBER, NOVEMBER, WHENEVER THAT WAS WHERE THAT, THAT WE HAD THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE ONE ON ASHWOOD. 
          UM, NOBODY ON THIS BOARD VOTED FOR IT. 
          EVERYBODY VOTED AGAINST IT. 
          I WAS ABSENT. 
          I WAS IN AN AIRBNB IN CANADA, . 
          BUT EVERY MEMBER  POINT TAKE SHORT TERM. 
          RIGHT. 
          EVERY MEMBER OF THIS BOARD VOTED AGAINST IT. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND I DON'T, I COULDN'T TELL YOU WHY. 
          UM, IT, IT DOESN'T CHANGE ANYTHING FROM WHAT YOU WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT. 
          UM, WHAT WE'RE REALLY TALKING ABOUT IS WHAT, WHAT WE DID HAVE WAS GROUPS OF NEIGHBORS THAT WERE HERE. 
          WE HAD, UM, WE HAD 
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PEOPLE WHO SPOKE FOR IT AND AGAINST IT. 
          AND, UM, I, I THINK AS, AS WE, AGAIN, SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, UM, ENFORCEMENT OF THE CODE, AS YOU SAY THAT THIS, THIS WASN'T WRITTEN FOR CONSUMERS OF, OF THIS PRODUCT. 
          DOES IS THIS, UM, ASIDE FROM MAYBE THE INSPECTION PART, IS ANY OF THE OTHER REGULATION IN THE PROPOSED LANGUAGE, DOES THAT MAKE IT PROHIBITIVE? IF YOU WERE GONNA RENT OUT YOUR HOUSE, WOULD THAT, WOULD ANY OF THIS MAKE IT SO YOU COULDN'T DO THAT? THAT'S STILL ALREADY THERE? WELL, NO, IT WOULDN'T MAKE IT, BUT I WOULD TAKE, UM, GRIEVANCE WITH THE HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAX. 
          I MEAN, I AM PAYING PROPERTY TAXES AND I'M ALSO PAYING INCOME TAX ON THE INCOME THAT'S COMING IN. 
          I MEAN, I AM TAXED TO DEATH. 
          AND NOW YOU WANNA ADD ANOTHER TAX TO IT. 
          I MEAN, THAT IS SPECIFIC THAT IT GOES TO TOURISM AND ALL OF THAT. 
          TOURISM DOES NOT SUPPORT SHORT-TERM RENTALS. 
          SO I FEEL LIKE THAT'S A, THAT'S AN EXTREME OVERREACH IN, IN THAT SITUATION. 
          I DON'T THINK THAT SHOULD BE, UM, PUT ON, PUT ON THESE PROPERTIES. 
          I MEAN, THAT'S NOT WHAT SHORT-TERM RENTALS ARE ABOUT. 
          AND MY OTHER QUESTION, AND I FORGOT. 
          AND, AND THAT IS 30 DAYS. 
          SO IF I RENT MY HOUSE FOR 31 DAYS, DOES IT TAKE IT OUTTA SHORT-TERM RENTAL AND PUT IT IN MIDTERM RENTAL? AND THEN AT WHAT POINT DOES IT GO FROM MIDTERM RENTAL TO LONG-TERM RENTAL? LIKE, WE'RE KIND OF GETTING IN THE WEEDS OF RENTAL PROCESSES HERE, WHICH REALLY THIS BOARD, NONE, THE CITY DOESN'T HAVE ANY BUSINESS IN THAT BUSINESS AT ALL. 
          RIGHT. 
          I, I WANNA SHARE THAT CURRENTLY THE 2025 ULDC IDENTIFIES SHORT TERM RENTALS, MUST PAY THE HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAX. 
          SO THIS IS ALREADY IN THE 2025 ULDC. 
          QUICK QUESTION. 
          UM, DID YOU TALK TO GALVESTON? GALVESTON PROBABLY HAS MORE, UM, SHORT TERM RENTALS THAN ANY CITY NEAR US. 
          AND DO, DO WE KNOW WHAT THEY DO? DO THEY HAVE A HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAX? AND I THINK, I THINK GALVESTON WAS ONE OF THE AREAS THAT WE LOOKED AT AT, AND THEY DO HAVE SHORT TERM RENTAL SO THAT THEY CAN KEEP, UM, GSON JUST HAD A MAJOR ENFORCEMENT GO THROUGH THEIR COUNCIL, PARTICULARLY ON THE WEST END. 
          YEAH. 
          WITH ALL THE SHORT TERM RENTALS. 
          AND THEY ARE CHARGING HOTEL LOCK C AND THEY ARE CUTTING DOWN, UH, BECAUSE IT HAD GOTTEN OUTTA HAND, YOU KNOW, DID, DID I NOT READ IN THE STAFF REPORTS, WOULD THEY, THE, THE, THE SHORT TERM RENTAL COULD BE AS LITTLE AS ONE NIGHT? YES. 
          MM-HMM . 
          OF COURSE. 
          YEAH. 
          WELL, IT'S UP TO YOU AS THE OWNER. 
          SO I MEAN, BASICALLY YOU GOT ONE NIGHT RENTAL AS YOU'RE RUNNING A MOTEL . 
          WELL, I, I THINK THE, THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE DOING. 
          LET ME FINISH, PLEASE. 
          YEAH, SURE. 
          SORRY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE DOING IN THE PROCESS. 
          IF YOU, AND, AND I DON'T DISAGREE, I DON'T THINK STAFF CAN CONTROL THIS PERSONALLY. 
          I DON'T THINK WE COULD POSSIBLY REGULATE THAT WE ALREADY HAVE 88 OPERATING ILLEGALLY IN THE CITY NOW, OR MORE, PROBABLY MORE BE HONEST WITH YOU IN THE PROCESS. 
          MY CONCERN, AND I THINK THE CONCERN WITH ALLEN BROOK WAS, IS WHAT THE EFFECT IS OF PUTTING THESE IN ESTABLISHED RESIDENTIAL AREAS TO CHANGE THE, THE AMBIANCE OR ASPECT OR WHATEVER IT IS OF THAT PARTICULAR, THE AREA. 
          AND THAT WAS WHAT THOSE CITIZENS' CONCERN WAS. 
          WHAT'S IT GONNA DO TO, TO AFFECT THAT? YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE, IF YOU'RE, I MEAN, WE REQUIRE RENTAL PROPERTY IN THIS TOWN TO HAVE SOME TYPE OF SAFETY REQUIREMENTS AND SOME THINGS, AND WE DON'T ENFORCE IT, BUT WE REQUIRE SMOKE ALARM AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. 
          I MEAN, THOSE ARE JUST SIMPLE THINGS, YOU KNOW, GOING IN THE PROCESS. 
          I STAY, I STAYED IN A LOT OF BED AND BREAKFASTS. 
          THAT'S KIND OF ONE OF THE THINGS WE LIKE TO DO GOING THE PROCESS. 
          I'VE NEVER STAYED IN ONE FOR ONE NIGHT, BUT I'VE CERTAINLY STAYED A BUNCH OF 'EM FOR WEEKENDS AND, YOU KNOW, VARIOUS THINGS THAT ARE, THAT ARE GOING THERE. 
          AND EVERYONE THAT I'VE EVER STAYED IN, PARTICULARLY DOWN IN GALS THERE, I PAID HOTEL MO MOTEL TAX ON. 
          SO IT'S IN MY DEAL. 
          SO I DON'T HAVE A BIG PROBLEM WITH THAT. 
          MY CONCERN IS, I THINK WE PASS REGULATIONS THAT WE CAN'T ENFORCE AND THEN THAT CREATES ANOTHER PROBLEM. 
          AND NOW YOU'RE GONNA HAVE SOME COMPANY DO IT. 
          'CAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE THE STAFF TO DO IT. 
          YOU DON'T HAVE THE BUDGET. 
          I KNOW THAT FOR A FACT TO DO THAT. 
          SO YOU'RE GONNA HOPE THAT THE FEES ARE GOING TO PAY THE COST OF DOING THAT. 
          AND THAT'S ASSUMING THAT YOU GET ALL A HUNDRED AND WHATEVER IT IS LICENSED IN THE PROCESS. 
          IF YOU ONLY GET 20 OF THEM, WHATEVER YOUR CONTRACT'S GONNA SIGN, HOWEVER THAT WORDING IS, YOU, IT MAY NOT GENERATE ENOUGH FEE. 
          I JUST THINK THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME MORE THOUGHT PUT INTO THIS BEFORE WE START. 
          AND, AND REFRESH MY MEMORY, WASN'T THERE SOME NOISE MAINTENANCE CONTROL THING AND THE ALLEN BOOK, SUP WE PUT IN, THEY HAD TO PUT SOME KIND OF A MONITOR. 
          I JUST REMEMBER THE DISCUSSION. 
          THEY, THEY VOLUNTEERED, UH, NOISE MONITORS OF SOME SORT. 
          BUT THAT'S NOT, IT'S NOT IN THE CODE. 
          AND IT WENT IN THE PUD THOUGH, DIDN'T IT? IT DID. 
          OKAY. 
          YOU MEAN THE S-U-P-S-U-P OR THE SUP? YEAH. 
          I TRUST STAFF TO, IF THEY SAY, IF YOU GUYS SAY THAT YOU HAVE A SYSTEM IN MIND 
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THAT YOU BELIEVE IT'S GONNA WORK AND YOU DID THE HOMEWORK, UM, BECAUSE, UM, YOU ALREADY KNOW THAT IT'S GONNA AFFECT THE NEIGHBORS AND YOU HEARD LIKE WE DID WHAT THE NEIGHBORS THOUGHT ABOUT IT. 
          UM, SO I I I GUESS I'M CONFUSED BY THAT. 
          DON AFFECT NEIGHBORS. 
          HOW? BY HAVING A DIFFERENT VEHICLE IN THE DRIVEWAY THREE TIMES A WEEK. 
          I MEAN, I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW IT AFFECTS A NEIGHBORHOOD, BECAUSE IF YOU DON'T LIVE SOME, EXPLAIN THAT TO ME. 
          SOMETIMES YOU WILL HAVE A PARTY. 
          I KNOW THAT MY DAUGHTER'S SIX CHILDREN, WE GO 15 DEEP, RIGHT? AND IF ALL OF US GO TO A SHORT TERM RENTAL AND THERE'S A BIRTHDAY PARTY, IT'LL GO IT IN GALVESTON DOWNSTAIRS AT NIGHT. 
          THAT'S GALVESTON. 
          YEAH. 
          IT'S A PARTY TOWN. 
          YEAH. 
          GALVESTON, BAYTOWN. 
          UM, SO IF WE STAY UP TOO LATE FOR SOME NEIGHBORS THAT ARE IN MORE QUIETER AR IN MORE QUIET AREAS, THEN THAT COULD BE A PROBLEM FOR A NEIGHBOR. 
          I, I DO JUST WANNA REMIND EVERYBODY THAT THIS WAS BROUGHT ABOUT BECAUSE THE DIRECTION FROM CITY COUNCIL WITH THE FEEDBACK THAT WE HEARD FROM THIS BODY, FROM THE PUBLIC, FROM CITY COUNCIL, FROM ALL THESE OTHER CITIES THAT WE TALKED TO, AND MOST OF THE, YOU KNOW, THE CITY STAFF IS GONNA TELL YOU, THESE REALLY AREN'T THAT BIG A DEAL. 
          THEY'RE NOT THAT BIG A PROBLEM. 
          WE ALSO DON'T SEE THEM FROM A STAFF POINT THAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE THAT MAJOR OF AN ISSUE. 
          UM, I DON'T THINK THEY HAVE. 
          BUT, BUT AGAIN, THERE WERE A LOT OF CONCERNS THAT CAME OUT OF THESE MEETINGS. 
          AND SO STAFF WAS DIRECTED TO GO AHEAD AND PUT SOMETHING TOGETHER THAT WOULD TIGHTEN UP THESE REGULATIONS. 
          BUT MAYBE, AGAIN, THE, THE SUP PROCESS WAS, WAS GONNA GET OUTTA HAND. 
          IT WAS TOO MUCH. 
          IT PUT, UM, IT, IT PUT THIS BODY AND CITY COUNCIL IN A, IN AN AWKWARD POSITION BECAUSE OF THE NATURE OF THE, OF THE REQUEST. 
          AND I THINK AS CALVIN SAID, THE, THE FACT THAT IT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE SUBJECTIVE WHEN YOU GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS, THIS IS MORE OF A, THIS IS A PERMIT. 
          WE LOOK AT IT AS LIKE ANY OTHER PERMIT THAT'S APPLIED FOR BUILDING PERMIT OR, UH, OR, OR ANY OTHER KIND OF, YOU KNOW, ZONING PERMIT, SOMETHING LIKE THAT WHERE IT'S BASICALLY, YOU COME IN, YOU APPLY FOR THE PERMIT, YOU, YOU PAY THE FEE. 
          YOU, YOU HIT THESE 10 REGULATIONS AND AS LONG AS YOU HIT THEM, WE CHECK IT OFF, YOU'RE APPROVED. 
          HERE'S YOUR PERMIT. 
          SO THIS REALLY, AS WE START TO TALK THROUGH IT, UM, THIS SIMPLIFIES THE PROCESS FROM WHAT IT IS RIGHT NOW BY A LONG SHOT. 
          IT PROBABLY MAKES IT CHEAPER FOR THEM BECAUSE AGAIN, THEY DON'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH ALL THE HEARINGS AND THE TIME AND EVERYTHING THAT IT TAKES. 
          IT, UH, ALSO WILL HOPEFULLY HELP TO PROVIDE A LITTLE BIT OF ASSURANCE TO OUR CITY, UH, UH, APPOINTED OFFICIALS AND ELECTED OFFICIALS THAT WE'RE AT LEAST PAYING ATTENTION TO IT. 
          BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY RIGHT NOW WE, WE DON'T HAVE THE STAFF TO PAY ATTENTION TO IT. 
          WE, WE'VE BROUGHT THAT UP. 
          THAT'S NOT SECRET. 
          UM, HOW IT GETS ENFORCED. 
          UM, AGAIN, I'M GOING TO ASK YOU AS A BODY TO KIND OF SET THAT ASIDE BECAUSE THAT IS SOMETHING THAT IT WILL BE POLICY DECISION, UM, DRIVEN BY MYSELF AND BY, UM, BY, YOU KNOW, CALVIN AND, AND OTHERS IN MY DEPARTMENT, BUT ALSO IN CITY MANAGEMENT AS TO HOW WE DO THAT. 
          IF IT ENDS UP COSTING US, IT ENDS UP COSTING US. 
          IF WE FIND, IF WE CAN FIND A WAY TO DO IT WITHOUT IT COSTING US, WE WILL DO THAT. 
          UM, AS LONG AS IT'S EFFECTIVE AND GETS US TO THE END GOAL. 
          AND THE END GOAL IS TO MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE FEEL A LITTLE BIT MORE COMFORTABLE WITH THIS IN THEIR COMMUNITY. 
          THAT REALLY IS THE BOTTOM LINE. 
          UM, I THINK I OTHERWISE THE ALTERNATIVE IS TO DO NOTHING AND JUST LET IT GO WILLY NIL. 
          CORRECT. 
          WILL, WILL WE GET ALL OF THEM? WILL WE GET ALL OF THEM PERMITTED? NO, WE WON'T. 
          NO, YOU WON'T. 
          THAT, THAT, THAT THAT'S NOT LIKELY TO HAPPEN. 
          WILL IT BE BETTER THAN IT IS NOW? I LIKE TO THINK THAT IT WILL. 
          I HOPE THAT IT WILL. 
          UM, AND, AND AGAIN, WE DID TALK TO A LOT OF DIFFERENT CITIES AND WE, WE TALKED TO THEM. 
          CALVIN MENTIONED, WE ASKED THEM, IS THERE ANYTHING THAT YOU WISH YOU DID DIFFERENTLY OUT OF THE GATE WHEN YOU STARTED DOING THIS? AND MOST OF 'EM WERE LIKE, NOT REALLY, AGAIN, REALLY ISN'T THAT BIG A DEAL? THE ITEMS THAT WE HAVE INCLUDED IN THIS, UH, PROPOSED TEXT AMENDMENT ARE NONE OF, WE DIDN'T MAKE ANY OF 'EM UP. 
          THESE ARE ALL STRAIGHT OUT OF OTHER CITIES. 
          UM, LEAGUE CITY WAS ONE THAT WE, WE DID TAKE QUITE A LOT FROM. 
          UM, BUT IT'S, IT'S FAIRLY STANDARD. 
          THE HOT TECHS IS, THAT'S STANDARD. 
          THEY, THEY ALL INCLUDE THAT. 
          THERE ARE A LOT OF, UM, OUR CITIZENS WHO HAVE MADE, SO WE HAD NEIGHBORS COME OUT AND SAY, THIS IS A COMMERCIAL, THIS IS A BUSINESS. 
          'CAUSE YOU'RE, 'CAUSE YOU'RE MAKING MONEY OFF OF IT. 
          OKAY. 
          SO THE COMPROMISE THERE IS WE, WE, THE STATE HAS DEFINED IT AS NOT A BUSINESS RIGHT, SPECIFICALLY, BUT THEY HAVE SAID YOU CAN, YOU CAN COLLECT THE HOT TAX. 
          SO THAT'S THE COMPROMISE. 
          SO, UM, SO AGAIN, WHILE THIS BODY REALLY DOESN'T HAVE MUCH TO DO WITH THE, THE TAX COLLECTION PORTION OF IT, UM, THAT, THAT IS, AGAIN, IT'S PART OF THAT GIVE AND TAKE OF, OF 
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ANY OF THIS. 
          SO, UM, THERE IS NO IDEAL SOLUTION TO THIS. 
          UM, I DO THINK THAT THE STATE OF TEXAS, 'CAUSE I'VE SEEN OTHER STATES DO IT, MAY EVENTUALLY SAY CITIES HANDS OFF, THEY GET TO DO WHATEVER THEY WANT AND YOU'RE, YOU'RE OUT OF IT. 
          THAT COULD HAPPEN. 
          I DON'T KNOW THAT IT WILL, BUT AGAIN, I CAME FROM ANOTHER STATE WHERE THEY DID THAT AND THEY JUST SAID, CITIES, YOU CAN NO LONGER REGULATE THESE. 
          IT'S A HOUSE. 
          IT'S A HOUSE. 
          IT'S A HOUSE. 
          REGARDLESS IF SOMEBODY'S IN THERE FOR A NIGHT OR 10 YEARS. 
          SO, UM, SO AGAIN, WE'RE, WE'RE TRYING TO PROVIDE I THINK SOMETHING THAT GIVES EVERYBODY A LITTLE BIT MORE, UM, A LITTLE BIT MORE COMFORT WITH THE IDEA OF THESE HAPPENING. 
          THE FACT THAT WE ARE PAYING ATTENTION, THE FACT THAT THEY'RE REGULATED IN SOME FASHION, UM, BUT WITHOUT BEING OVER THE TOP, NO, WITHOUT BEING SOMETHING THAT SAYS, OKAY, NOW THERE'S NO WAY I CAN DO ONE OF THESE IN THE CITY OF BAYTOWN BECAUSE THE REGULATIONS ARE CRAZY. 
          SO, UM, I HOPE THAT HELPS A LITTLE BIT. 
          ANY OTHER COMMENTS? YES, COMMISSIONER CAROL. 
          I JUST HAVE A, A COUPLE OF, UM, MAYBE MORE THAN A COUPLE, BUT I, I, UM, TRY TO DO MY HOMEWORK. 
          UM, AND LOOKING AT SOME OF THESE, UM, SHORT TERM RENTALS, FOUR, I'VE GOT SEABROOK LAPORTE, CITY OF HOUSTON, GALVESTON, MONT BELLEVUE, UM, SEVERAL OF THEM. 
          UM, MONT BELLEVUE. 
          UM, FIRST OF ALL, YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND, UM, AND MONT BELLEVUE STATES, YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND IF YOUR HOA EVEN ALLOWS IT, THERE ARE GUIDELINES WITHIN YOUR DEED RESTRICTIONS THAT WILL STATE SOMETHING TO THE EFFECT THAT YOU CAN'T RUN A BUSINESS OR, UM, SOMETHING TO THAT EFFECT. 
          I DON'T REMEMBER THE OTHER WORDS, WHICH AS WAS STATED, THEY DON'T CONSIDER, UH, SHORT TERM RENTALS AS A BUSINESS IN THAT MARKET. 
          AS A MATTER OF FACT, THE TEXAS SUPREME COURT HAS STOOD WITH, UM, THE OWNERS AND STATED TO THE HOAS, NO, YOU CAN'T, YOU CAN'T DO THAT. 
          THE ONLY WAY AN HOA CAN STOP, UM, SHORT TERM RENTALS IS IF SHORT TERM RENTAL IS SPECIFICALLY STATED IN THEIR DEED RESTRICTIONS AND GUIDELINES. 
          UM, AND THAT WOULD ONLY APPLY TO MEMBERS GOING FORWARD. 
          NOT CON NOT CURRENT OWNERS AND PREVIOUS OWNERS. 
          UM, THERE ARE SOME OF THESE THAT STATE, YOU KNOW, NO WEDDINGS, NO BAR, UH, BIRTHDAY PARTIES, LIKE WHAT A WEDDING. 
          BUT I THINK WITH THE WAY THEY'VE GOT IT WORDED, UM, THE NUMBER OF BEDS PER HEADS KIND OF DOES TAKE THAT OUT. 
          THEY CAN'T OVERPACK A HOUSE. 
          UM, I THINK THAT WHEN THIS FIRST CAME TO US, THERE WAS REALLY NO INFORMATION AND NO INFORMATION SHARED. 
          NOTHING REALLY TO KIND OF PROVIDE ANY KIND OF GUIDELINES. 
          YOU HAD A LOT OF, UM, UH, RESIDENT FEEDBACK AND IT WAS COUNTRY CLUB THAT HAD THE, THE ONE THAT WAS, UH, THE ISSUE. 
          UM, AND UH, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT'S WHY WE KIND OF STEPPED BACK FROM IT. 
          AND WERE A LITTLE CONCERNED THAT THERE WAS SO MUCH A RESIDENTS CONCERN WITH NO RESPONSE PUT TOGETHER FROM THE CITY. 
          LIKE REALLY HOW TO HANDLE IT PER SE. 
          I THINK THE GUIDELINES KIND OF HELP. 
          UM, I KIND OF TENDED A LITTLE BIT OF OVERREACH BECAUSE I TOO STAY IN AIRBNBS, BUT, UM, I THINK LEAST WE'RE GOING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. 
          I, YES SIR. 
          UM, I OWN SHORT TERM RENTALS AND THE WEBSITES THAT WE ADVERTISE 'EM THROUGH, WHERE THE CUSTOMERS CLIENTS FIND US. 
          IT'S SELF-REGULATED. 
          YES. 
          THEY RATE US AND WE RATE THEM. 
          WE'RE IN IT TO MAKE MONEY. 
          SO WE WANT A TOP NOTCH PRODUCT AND WE WANT TO RE-RATE IT GOOD. 
          WE DO NOT WANT A NEGATIVE REVIEW AT ALL. 
          SO IT IT IS SELF-REGULATED AS THEY STATED EARLIER. 
          AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT, UH, MAYBE THE CITY DOESN'T HAVE TO DO INSPECTIONS AND YEAH. 
          WHY WOULD YOU, HOW WOULD YOU ENFORCE IT? YOU CAN'T. 
          I MEAN, SO THAT'S WHAT THEY WERE SAYING. 
          THEY'RE GONNA HAVE, THEY'RE GONNA DEVELOP A STRUCTURE TO, TO ENFORCE IT. 
          THAT'S WHAT WILL BE DEVELOPED. 
          I I'LL ALSO REMIND YOU THAT AS THIS IS A, A PROPOSAL BY STAFF, UH, AGAIN AS DIRECTED BY THE CITY, UM, IF THERE ARE PIECES OF, IF YOU LIKE THE OVERALL DIRECTION, BUT THERE ARE PIECES OF IT THAT YOU DON'T LIKE, YOU CAN, UM, UH, YOU CAN DECIDE TO, TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE WITH SOME CONDITIONS TO CHANGE THIS, THAT, OR THE OTHER. 
          UM, OR, OR HOWEVER OR ANYTHING, YOU KNOW, YES, NO. 
          OR ANYTHING IN BETWEEN. 
          I SAY WE TOSSED IT STRAIGHT TO CITY COUNCIL. 
          NO, I'M ON A JURY. 
          NO, SIR. 
          YOU GOT NEXT . 
          MAAM, CAN WE TALK BACK AND LOOK AT THE YES, SIR. 
          UM, THE OTHER, I WAS GONNA ASK THE SAME MADAM CHAIR. 
          I HAVE A COMMENT. 
          YES, SIR. 
          JUST I WANNA CLARIFY SOMETHING 
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THAT, THAT WAS SAID WHEN THIS CAME TO CITY COUNCIL. 
          ORIGINALLY CITY COUNCIL WAS OPPOSED TO THIS. 
          I KNOW, OR AT LEAST MOST OF 'EM WERE BECAUSE I TALKED TO 'EM BEFORE THAT MEETING. 
          THEY, THEY ONLY STARTED CHANGING THEIR MIND AFTER THEY WERE TOLD AS MARTIN SAID THAT THE STATE MAY AT SOME POINT IN TIME SAY HANDS OFF, YOU DON'T GET TO REGULATE ANYTHING. 
          AND THAT'S WHEN THEY ALLOWED THAT SUP AND SOME THINGS TO GO THROUGH. 
          SO IT WASN'T LIKE, I DON'T WANT THE IMPRESSION THAT THEY WERE ALL JUMPING, THEY WERE ALL HAPPY ABOUT IT 'CAUSE THEY WEREN'T, YOU KNOW, GOING IN THE PROCESS. 
          UM, THERE HAS TO BE SOME REGULATION AT SOME POINT IN TIME IN HOW YOU'RE DOING IT. 
          OTHER CITIES ARE REGULATING, WHETHER IT'S THROUGH NOISE COMPLAINTS OR WHATEVER THEY'RE DOING, GAL I KNOW, GAL DOES. 
          AND THE PROCESS, UH, THE HOAS HAVE MONEY TO GO OUT AND ENFORCE THEIR DEED RESTRICTIONS. 
          IT OKAY. 
          THE CIVIC ASSOCIATIONS LIKE LAKEWOOD DON'T HAVE MONEY IN ALLEN BROOK. 
          SO IN ORDER FOR THEM TO ENFORCE THEIR DEED RESTRICTIONS IN THE CIVIC ASSOCIATION, THEY GOTTA COME UP WITH DOLLARS TO HIRE ATTORNEYS. 
          SO THERE'S A BIG DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THOSE. 
          AND, AND THAT WAS KIND OF THE ALLEN BROOK THING. 
          AND, AND LAKEWOOD'S ALREADY RAISED SOME ISSUES AND, AND YOU KNOW, THEY DON'T HAVE THE HOA MONEY, SO THEY HAVE TO HAVE SOMETHING TO HELP THEM REGULATE IT WHEN IT, WHEN IT GOES SOUTH WITHIN THEIR COMMUNITY. 
          SO MAYBE REGULATORS. 
          SO YOU GOTTA HAVE SOMETHING OVERKILL. 
          MAYBE IT SHOULD BE MONITOR. 
          WELL THAT MAY YEAH. 
          I, I DON'T MONITOR RATHER. 
          CAN WE GO BACK THIS SLIDE THAT SHOWS THE CONDITIONS? PLEASE, SIR. 
          YES, EXACTLY. 
          AND I DO HAVE A QUESTION ON THE PERMIT. 
          IS IT A ONETIME PERMIT? IS IT KINDA LIKE THE ALARM PERMIT WHERE YOU GOTTA DO IT ONCE A YEAR? WHERE WE WENT, THE PERMIT IS ANNUAL. 
          ANNUAL. 
          THE INSPECTION IS, IT'S A ONE TIME FOR THE INSPECTION UNLESS, UH, THERE ARE COMPLAINTS OR A REASON TO DO A FOLLOW UP. 
          UH, BUT IT'S A ONE TIME. 
          OKAY, SO ANNUAL IN INS THIS AND WE, LET'S, CAN WE GO THROUGH THE LIST AND THEN SAY WHAT YET WE LIKE IT OR DON'T FOR EACH OF THESE? IS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU WANNA HEAR SO FAR? THAT'S YOUR PREROGATIVE. 
          OKAY, SO REGISTRATION, A PERMIT FEE AND AN ANNUAL INSPECTION. 
          HOW DOES EVERYBODY FEEL ABOUT THAT? I DON'T, I DON'T SEE THE POINT. 
          NO, NO, NO. 
          AGREED. 
          AND A PERMIT FEE IS THAT, IS THAT ANNUAL OR IS THAT ANNUAL? THE PERMIT FEE IS ANNUAL. 
          OKAY. 
          SO YES TO THE PERMIT FEE AND NO TO ANNUAL INSPECTIONS. 
          I SAY NO TO BOTH. 
          NO TO BOTH. 
          AND IT MAKES NO SENSE TO HAVE SAFETY REQUIREMENTS IN IT AND NOT HAVE AN ANNUAL INSPECTION TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE STILL DOING IT. 
          OKAY. 
          SO, AND YOU OUGHT JUST GET RID OF IT. 
          HOW MANY SAY NO PERMIT AND NO ANNUAL INSPECTION HANDS? ARE WE TAKING A VOTE? ? I MEAN WE, WE, I DON'T THINK WE CAN DO THIS. 
          WE WANNA GET TO WHAT THE ORDINANCE IS WE GOING TO DELIVER TO YOU GONNA, UM, NO, NOT A, NOT A NOT AN OFFICIAL VOTE ON A MOTION. 
          YOU CAN'T A STRUGGLE VOTE EITHER. 
          YEAH, YOU CAN'T TAKE OH, YOU CAN'T, OKAY. 
          CAN'T TAKE A EXTRA VOTE. 
          OKAY. 
          SO MOST OF US DON'T WANT THE ANNUAL INSPECTION AND MOST OF US DO NOT WANT THE PERMIT. 
          HOW ABOUT THE HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAX? I DON'T THINK WE CAN EVEN DO THAT. 
          WE CAN'T ASK QUESTIONS OF EACH. 
          WE CAN'T TAKE A STRAW VOTE. 
          YOU'RE ASKING FOR A STRAW VOTE. 
          IT'S UNDER MOTION, I THINK WHAT YOU SAY? YEAH, WE'LL ACCEPT THAT WITHOUT THIS, SOMEBODY HAS TO MAKE A MOTION AND THE MOTION IS GONNA BE SO CONVOLUTED BECAUSE SOMEONE, OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          MAKE A MOTION. 
          THAT'S, THAT'S JUST THE WAY WE HAVE TO DO IT. 
          OKAY, LET'S DO IT THAT WAY THEN THAT WE'RE GONNA FOLLOW THE RULES. 
          ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? I NEED A MOTION, PLEASE. 
          I'D BE WILLING AT THE TABLE THIS AND SIT AT THE COUNCIL AND LET THEM DEAL WITH IT PERSONALLY BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN. 
          YOU, YOU CAN CHOOSE TO MAKE NO RECOMMENDATION IF YOU CHOOSE. 
          DOES ANYONE HAVE A MOTION? I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE REJECT THIS. 
          IS THERE A SECOND TO REJECT THIS? I'LL SECOND IT. 
          UM, CLARIFICATION. 
          CAN YOU GIVE SOME REASONS? NO, I THINK IT'S NOT RUNNING THE MEETING. 
          SHE'S RUNNING THE MEETING. 
          I CAN ASK HER CLARIFICATION. 
          , WE'LL HAVE AFTER DONNA THERE. 
          HE WANTS YOU TO ASK. 
          I THINK YOUR MOTION IS PROBABLY THAT WE DENY THE REQUEST FOR THE, THE CODE CHANGE AS STATED IN THE AGENDA BECAUSE THAT'S BASICALLY WHAT YOU'RE DOING. 
          YES. 
          RIGHT? OBJECT TO IT. 
          YOU GOT A MOTION THAT'S BEEN TAKEN A MOTION TO DENY THE TEXT AMENDMENT TO AS WRITTEN AS WRITTEN, YES. 
          UM, IN ITEM THREE B. 
          CORRECT. 
          WE HAVE A MOTION AND WE HAVE A SECOND. 
          SECOND. 
          ALL IN FAVOR? ANY DISCUSSION? ANY, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? I I JUST WANNA SAY THAT BAYTOWN GETS A BAD RAP FOR BEING HARD TO DO BUSINESS IN. 
          AND I THINK WE NEED TO BE VERY CAREFUL THAT WE DON'T CONTINUE TO TAKE THAT ON. 
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LIKE WE NEED TO MAKE THINGS SIMPLE. 
          WE NEED TO MAKE THINGS ORGANIZED. 
          I GET IT. 
          BUT LET'S TRY TO MAKE THINGS A LITTLE BIT EASIER FOR BUSINESS PEOPLE THAT ARE, THAT ARE THE OSCARS OF THE WORLD THAT'RE JUST TRYING TO MAKE A LIVING. 
          IT'S OSCARS  OSCARS OF THE WORLD. 
          DID YOU WANNA MAKE A COMMENT, SIR? NOPE. 
          OKAY. 
          ALL IN FAVOR OF DENYING THIS TEXT AMENDMENT. 
          PLEASE SAY AYE. 
          AYE. 
          AYE. 
          ALL OPPOSED? ANY ABSTENTIONS SUSTAIN? AYE. 
          ONE ABSTENTION. 
          TWO ABSTENTIONS. 
          SO ALL IN FAVOR OF DENYING PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND. 
          THAT'S FINE. 
          FOUR. 
          ALL OPPOSED? ONE AND TWO. 
          ABSTENTIONS. 
          THAT'S NOT FOUR. 
          THAT'S THREE. 
          1, 2, 3. 
          FOUR. 
          FOUR. 
          YEAH. 
          THREE. 
          FOUR. 
          THREE. 
          WAIT. 
          FOUR, FOUR. 
          DENYING I MISUNDERSTOOD. 
          YES, PLEASE. 
          FOUR. 
          FOR DENYING, ONE AGAINST DENYING AND TWO ABSTENTIONS. 
          THAT'S CORRECT. 
          IT DOESN'T PASS CORRECT. 
          'CAUSE THERE THERE'S NOT A MAJORITY. 
          YOU'VE GOT FOUR OUTTA SEVEN. 
          THAT'S, THAT'S A MOTION. 
          MAJORITY IS SUSTAINED TO DENY WE GOING BACK TO MATH. 
          OKAY. 
          FOR, OKAY, WE GOING FOR CLARITY. 
          NOT TEACHING MATH THOUGH THERE, RIGHT? I'M NOT, I'M NOT GOING BACK TO FOR CLARITY, THIS WILL STILL GO FORWARD TO CITY COUNCIL. 
          YES. 
          VERY GOOD. 
          AND THEY WILL GET THE, THE, A SUMMARY OF STAFF WILL SUMMARIZE KIND OF WHAT HAPPENED HERE TODAY AND WHAT THE VOTE LOOKED LIKE. 
          AND THEN WE WILL, UM, WE'LL SEE WHERE IT GOES FROM THERE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          WE ARE MOVING ON TO ITEM 
          [c.  Conduct a public hearing and consider a request for a proposed text amendment to Chapter 111 of the Unified Land Development Code to amend Section 2.25 (g) of the Baytown Code of Ordinances to incorporate language from Ordinance No. 15,756 reaffirming that Planned Unit Developments (“PUDs”) shall not automatically expire, but shall remain in effect until the PUD is amended or the property in question is reclassified to another zoning district.]
THREE C. 
          CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDER A REQUEST FOR PROPOSED TEXT AMENDMENTS CHAPTER ONE 11 OF THE UNIFIED LAND UNIFIED LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE TO AMENS SECTION 2.2 5G OF THE BAYTOWN CODE OF ORDINANCES TO INCORPORATE LANGUAGE FROM ORDINANCE NUMBER 15,756. 
          REAFFIRMING THE PLAN UNIT DEVELOPMENTS SHALL NOT AUTOMATICALLY EXPIRE, BUT SHALL REMAIN IN EFFECT UNTIL A PUD IS AMENDED OR THE PROPERTY IN QUESTION IS RECLASSIFIED TO ANOTHER ZONING DISTRICT. 
          THANK YOU, TIM. 
          CALL THE ORDER THIS PUBLIC HEARING AT 6:27 PM THANK YOU MARTIN FOR SUMMARIZING. 
          THANK YOU FOR THE RECORD. 
          MARTIN SCRIBNER PLANNING DEVELOPMENT SERVICES. 
          UM, SO, UH, I'M GONNA BLAME THE LAWYERS FOR THIS ONE, BUT WE ARE GONNA MAKE THIS ONE A, HOPEFULLY A SIMPLE ONE. 
          THIS IS REALLY A HOUSEKEEPING ITEM. 
          UM, IN THE 2014 ULDC. 
          UM, WE HAD A REGULATION IN THE CODE THAT SAID PUDS WOULD EXPIRE AFTER TWO YEARS, BASICALLY, UM, IN MARCH OF 2024. 
          WE TOOK THAT RULE OUT, WE SAID THE PUDS ARE NO LONGER GOING TO EXPIRE. 
          WE DIDN'T SEE THE NEED FOR THAT. 
          IN FACT, WE FELT IT WAS COUNTERPRODUCTIVE. 
          SO LET'S TAKE THAT OUT. 
          WE DID THAT. 
          WE ALSO INCLUDED THE PUDS THAT HAD ALREADY BEEN APPROVED, THAT HAD NOT BEEN BUILT YET. 
          SO THEY NO LONGER HAD AN EXPIRATION IN JANUARY OF LAST YEAR. 
          THE NEW LDC CAME IN, IT INCORPORATED THE CHANGE FOR THE NEW PUDS. 
          UM, BUT WE DIDN'T SPECIFICALLY INCLUDE THE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED PUDS. 
          SO, UM, THIS BASICALLY JUST CORRECTS THAT EMISSION. 
          UM, SO WHAT YOU'LL SEE IS THAT IN SECTION 2.25 OF THE ODC, UH, UNDER, WE WOULD ADD SUBSECTION G THAT WOULD ADD THE LANGUAGE YOU SEE ON THE SCREEN THAT SAYS INCLUDING, UH, ALL THE PUDS THAT ARE APPROVED PRIOR TO JANUARY 1ST, 2024 WILL REMAIN IN EFFECT UNTIL SOMEONE COMES IN AND CHANGES SOMETHING SPECIFICALLY EITHER AMENDS THE PUD OR, UH, REZONES THE PROPERTY. 
          SO AGAIN, HOUSEKEEPING ITEM, UM, THAT SHOULD CLEAN IT UP AND MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY'S ON THE SAME PAGE. 
          STAFF RECOMMENDS, UH, POSITIVE RECOMMENDATION. 
          I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. 
          THANK YOU THERE BEING NO ONE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK. 
          I CLOSE THIS PUBLIC HEARING AT 6:29 PM ANY DISCUSSION? COMMISSIONERS? SO THE PROBLEM WITH TAKING THE TWO YEAR EXEMPTION AWAY IN THE FIRST PLACE IS THAT WHEN THEY COME TO US WITH A PUD, AS I SAID EARLIER, WE'RE ALLOWED TO NEGOTIATE SPECIAL CONDITIONS TO GET 'EM TO MOVE FORWARD. 
          SO IF THEY NO LONGER HAVE A TIME PERIOD IN WHICH TO DO THAT ON THE PROPERTY THAT AS QUICK STRIKE'S BEEN SITTING THERE, THAT PROPERTY CAN SIT THERE FOR A LONG TIME AND THEY HAVE NO MOTIVATION TO MOVE FORWARD. 
          AND I GUESS WE REALLY DON'T HAVE ANY, UM, OPPORTUNITY TO HELP MOVE THEM FORWARD. 
          SO THAT'S JUST KIND OF AN ISSUE WITH TAKING THAT OUT IN THE FIRST PLACE. 
          IF I UNDERSTAND THIS RIGHT, ALL OF THEM ARE GONNA GO TO NO EXHIBITIONS, UH, NO EXPIRATION. 
          IS THAT CORRECT? SO YES, IN THE CODE CURRENTLY ANY NEW PUDS WOULD HAVE NO EXPIRATION BY DEFAULT. 
          IF YOU HAVE A PUD THAT YOU'VE BUILT, THEN IT'S NOT GONNA EXPIRE THAT, THAT'S JUST HOW THAT, THAT FUNCTIONS. 
          THERE ARE BASICALLY TWO PUDS IN THE CITY THAT WERE APPROVED AND THEN HAVE NOT GONE FORWARD AT ALL YET. 
          UM, IN THOSE CASES, HOW THEY WERE APPROVED WAS, 
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I'M GONNA HAVE A BASE LAYER, YOU KNOW, A BASE ZONING OF, WELL LET, LET'S, LET'S, I'LL I'LL USE, UM, ONE OF 'EM WAS INDUSTRIAL. 
          LET'S DO THAT ONE. 
          UM, AS AN EXAMPLE, WE HAD ONE THAT WAS APPROVED AS AN INDUSTRIAL PUD. 
          SO IT STARTS WITH A BASE ZONING OF LIGHT INDUSTRIAL. 
          THE PUD OVER THE TOP OF IT BASICALLY SAID, OKAY, THEY'RE GONNA DO EXTRA STUFF AND WE'RE GOING TO LOCK THEM INTO THEIR SITE PLAN. 
          NOW THEY'VE BUILT, SO THIS IS A JUST, JUST A FOR, FOR INSTANCE. 
          UM, BUT IF THEY HADN'T BUILT, THEN WHAT HAPPENS IF AFTER TWO YEARS THAT EXPIRES, THEN WHAT DO YOU HAVE UNDERNEATH? YOU HAVE REVERTED TO THE BASE ZONING, WHICH IS LIGHT INDUSTRIAL AND YOU'VE TAKEN AWAY ALL THE PROTECTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE HAD THAT WERE INCLUDED IN THE PUD IN THE FIRST PLACE. 
          SO THAT GOES FOR ANY PUD THAT IS DONE, ANYTHING THAT WE AS, AS THE CITY HAVE NEGOTIATED TO HAVE EXTRA SO THAT THIS IS A BETTER DEVELOPMENT OVERALL, THAT ALL GOES AWAY AND THEN YOU JUST END UP WITH WHATEVER THE BASE ZONING IS, WHICH PROVIDES YOU WITH NO PROTECTION AT ALL. 
          SO TO ME, THE, UH, AND TO STAFF, AND I THINK WE WENT THROUGH THIS PROCESS AGAIN TWO YEARS AGO TO SAY THAT DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE. 
          THAT DOESN'T PROVIDE ANY PROTECTIONS FOR THE CITY. 
          IT DOESN'T PROVIDE ANY PROTECTIONS FOR THE NEIGHBORS. 
          UM, AND, AND EVERYTHING ELSE THAT WENT INTO IT IS JUST NEGATED. 
          SO AGAIN, THIS PARTICULAR AMENDMENT ONLY AFFECTS TWO PROJECTS AND THAT'S IT. 
          ANY OTHER DISCUSSION OF COMMISSIONERS? NEED A MOTION? MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE AMENDMENT SECOND. 
          ALL IN FAVOR? A. 
          ANY OPPOSED, ANY ABSTENTIONS? MOTION CARRIES. 
          WE MOVE TO ITEM FOUR 
          [a.  Consider establishing speed zones for Interstate Highway 10 (IH-10) Main Lanes Eastbound and Westbound from Cedar Bayou to State Highway 146 (SH 146).]
B FOUR A ASHLYN, CONSIDER ESTABLISHING SPEED ZONES FOR INTERSTATE HIGHWAY 10 I 10, IH 10 MAIN LANES EASTBOUND AND WESTBOUND FROM CEDAR BAYOU TO STATE HIGHWAY 1 46. 
          THANK YOU JUAN. 
          GOOD EVENING COMMISSION. 
          UH, THIS ITEM WAS BROUGHT, UH, LAST TIME. 
          UM, THERE WERE SOME QUESTIONS Y'ALL HAD THAT I DIDN'T HAVE THE INFORMATION FOR. 
          SO I BROUGHT A TEXTILE REPRESENTATIVE, UH, TO ANSWER THAT. 
          UM, I WILL MENTION HE'S WITH BELMONT, SO HE'S NOW WITH HARRIS COUNTY. 
          SO LIST, I DO WANNA BE . 
          UM, SO, UM, SOME OF THE INFORMATION THOUGH THAT, UH, AND UH, THAT HE, HE DID SHARE WITH ME, ONE OF THE QUESTIONS Y'ALL HAD WAS, UM, REGARDING THE SPEED LIMIT, IF THE, IF THERE WERE ANY PLANS TO DO ADDITIONAL CHANGES. 
          AND MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THERE IS, UH, TO, UM, IT'S ACTUALLY IN THE WORKS. 
          CAN I GET YOU TO SPEAK? BUT ACTUALLY I YOU TO SPEAKING TO THE MICROPHONE, I'LL ACTUALLY LET HIM SPEAK THAT WAY. 
          UM, HE CAN GIVE Y'ALL MAYBE THE BETTER INFORMATION. 
          THANK YOU LORD. 
          THANK YOU. 
          YES. 
          GUESS I'M ALLOWED TO YOU COME. 
          YES, PLEASE, TIM. 
          SO, YES, MY, MY NAME IS KENNETH WEERS AND I'M WITH THE TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION, 84 50 EAST TEXAS FREEWAY, BEAUMONT, TEXAS. 
          SO THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME LISTEN TO Y'ALL. 
          , YOU KNOW, IT HAS BEEN A A REAL PLEASURE TO, YOU KNOW, JUST BE IN THE AUDIENCE AND LISTEN TO PEOPLE WHO CARE, UH, ABOUT THEIR, THEIR COMMUNITY ASKING GREAT QUESTIONS ON IT. 
          UM, UNFORTUNATELY, I'M GONNA GO, GO AHEAD AND SAY FOR ME, I'M BRINGING FORWARD A TOPIC THAT I HAVE FOUND 50% OF THE PEOPLE ARE, ARE IN ONE BUCKET OR THE OTHER, RIGHT? LIKE, HALF THE PEOPLE WANT THINGS HIGHER AND HALF OF THEM WANT 'EM LOWER AND, AND I AM ALMOST NEVER IN A LIKE, FAVORABLE POSITION IT FEELS. 
          SO, UM, I, I JUST WANNA TALK HONESTLY WITH Y'ALL ABOUT OUR CHANGES TO THE, TO THE SPEED LIMIT. 
          IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE ENGINEERING STUDY BACKGROUND ON WHY YEAH. 
          WHAT THE CHANGES ARE, WHAT THE THINGS WERE ON THE EITHER SIDE, JUST WANT TO BE ABLE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS TO YOU. 
          IF I CAN'T ANSWER, MAN, I'M GONNA TELL YOU, I HAVE NO IDEA, BUT WE'RE GONNA GET BACK TO YOU ON IT AND, AND GO FROM THERE. 
          YES, MAN, I HAD MY HEART ON, I WANTED TO COME UP AND BE ABLE TO TALK ON, UH, ANSWERS FOR THE OTHER DEVELOPMENT THAT WAS, THAT WAS PRESENTED EARLIER, BUT I AM WITH THE BEAUMONT DISTRICT AND THAT CHAMBERS COUNTY LINE. 
          IT, IT'S, I DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE PROJECTS THAT ARE GOING ON IN THE HOUSTON DISTRICT. 
          I, I, I KNOW THE ONES THAT ARE HERE IN CHAMBERS AND OUR SPEED LIMIT CHANGES THAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO HERE. 
          SO I, I DIDN'T WANNA LIKE SAY, HEY, I, I'M WITH TDOT, BUT I HAVE NO IDEA EARLIER. 
          BUT JUST, UH, APPRECIATE Y'ALL HAVING THOSE INTERESTS IN WHAT WE'RE DOING AS A STATE. 
          GIVING ME THE OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT HERE ON OUR SPEED LIMIT CHANGE. 
          SO, UM, IT'S Y'ALL'S DISCUSSION AND YOU'VE GOT ME FOR AS LONG AS YOU NEED. 
          CAN, CAN WE, CAN I BE REMINDED OF WHY WE 
          [01:35:01]
YEAH, BECAUSE THERE WAS SOME SEGMENTS THERE THAT WE NO, GO AHEAD. 
          PUSH BACK ON. 
          I'LL RIGHT BACK. 
          SO THE SPECIFIC, THERE WE GO. 
          THE SPECIFIC AREA WAS GONNA BE FROM CITY BIO 1 46. 
          UM, AND I THINK, SO ONE OF THE QUESTIONS YOU Y'ALL HAD ASKED LAST TIME WAS, HEY, WHAT ARE THE SPEED LIMITS TO THE EAST AND TO THE WEST? SO THE SPEED LIMIT TO THE EAST WAS 65 AND MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THAT ONE'S ALSO GONNA BE CHANGING TO 75, UM, CHAMBERS COUNTY. 
          GOTCHA. 
          YEP. 
          I CAN GIVE YOU THE HISTORY. 
          MM-HMM . 
          THANK YOU JUAN. 
          THANK, THANK Y'ALL VERY MUCH. 
          YES. 
          SO BRIEF HISTORY OF OF OF SPEED LIMITS HERE. 
          UM, MANY, MANY YEARS AGO, UH, SPEED LIMIT OF 65 WAS ESTABLISHED FOR ENVIRONMENTAL REASONS FOR HARRIS CHAMBERS COUNTIES. 
          UM, 2003 TIMELINE, THE ABILITY TO SET ENVIRONMENTAL SPEED LIMITS WAS REMOVED. 
          AND THEN IN 2025, EARLY 2025 CHAMBERS COUNTIES WAS TOTALLY ELIMINATED BY THE TEXAS TRANSPORTATION COMMISSION. 
          SO EARLY 2025, WE REENTERED THE SPEED ZONING PROCESS FOR BEAUMONT DISTRICT, RIGHT FOR THIS SECTION OF INTERSTATE 10. 
          UM, SO WE LOOKED AT ALL OF CHAMBERS COUNTY STARTING AT CEDAR BIO, UH, HEADING THROUGH WINNIE TO THE JEFFERSON COUNTY LINE. 
          UM, WENT OUT, DID SPEED COUNTS, RIGHT WHERE YOU ACTUALLY GO AND RADAR HOW FAST THE AVERAGE PERSON IS DRIVING. 
          UH, FIND OUT WHAT THAT REASONABLE AND PRUDENT PERSON IS DOING, UH, IN REGARDS TO SPEED ON THEIR SAY 10 LOOKING AT, UH, CRASHES. 
          AND THEN WE PRESENTED OUR FINDING ON A, WE CALL IT A STRIP MAP, LONG ROLL PLOT SHOWS WHERE ALL THE CRASHES ARE, WHERE THE DIFFERENT CURVATURES OF THE ROADWAYS AND THINGS ON THAT ARE PRESENT TO THE TRANSPORTATION COMMISSION. 
          UM, NOVEMBER, EARLY DECEMBER TIMEFRAME, THE TRANSPORTATION COMMISSION APPROVED OUR ENGINEERING STUDY AND THAT STARTED THE BALL ROLLING FOR CHANGING THE SPEED LIMITS OUTSIDE THE LIMITS OF MUNICIPALITIES. 
          SO LATER PART OF DECEMBER WE WENT TO CITY OF MONT BELLEVUE. 
          CITY OF COVE ORIGINALLY CAME TO, UM, TO Y'ALL AND ASKED, WILL YOU PLEASE PASS AN ORDINANCE SO THAT WE CAN GET ENFORCEMENT HELP ON THE NEW SPEED LIMITS SO THAT WE HAVE THIS CONVERSATION OF LIKE, WHAT ARE WE DOING WITH SPEED LIMITS IN YOUR TOWN? RIGHT? UM, AND SO I I BELIEVE THERE WERE QUESTIONS, UH, APOLOGIZE, WE DIDN'T HAVE SOMEBODY AT YOUR, YOUR ORIGINAL MEETING. 
          AND SO YES, UH, STARTING AT CEDAR BIO HEADING ALL THE WAY THROUGH CHAMBERS COUNTY, WE WANNA RAISE THE SPEED LIMIT UP TO 75. 
          UM, THAT CHANGE ACTUALLY HAS ALREADY HAPPENED THROUGH THE REST OF CHAMBERS COUNTY EXCEPT FOR THIS, UH, 0.68 SOMETHING MILE SECTION. 
          A LITTLE LESS THAN A MILE, RIGHT? UM, WE HAVE NOT, RIGHT? BEAUMONT DISTRICT IS NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR THE HARRIS COUNTY STUDIES. 
          SO I'M NOT SURE WHERE HOUSTON DISTRICT IS IN THE PROCESS OF LOOKING AT ANYTHING WITHIN THE REST OF Y'ALL'S CITY LIMITS FROM CEDAR BIO WEST. 
          SO RIGHT NOW THAT WOULD STAY 65 WHEN YOU CROSS THE COUNTY LINE. 
          WE'RE REQUESTING THAT Y'ALL HELP US, UH, PUSH FORWARD WITH RAISING IT UP TO 75 ALL THE WAY THROUGH TILL, UH, JEFFERSON COUNTY AND BEYOND. 
          SO THOSE ARE THE LIMITS. 
          KIND OF KIND OF THE HISTORY QUESTIONS. 
          WHAT IS THE SPEED LIMIT TO THE WEST NOW? UH, IT'S 65. 
          65. 
          IT'S CURRENTLY 65. 
          I DID DRIVE IT BEFORE THIS MEETING AND LOOKED AT ALL THE SIGNS AND CAN VERIFY THAT IT IS POSTED PRI FASHION 65 WHAT GOING WEREN'T FIVE, BUT THAT'S THE SPEED LIMIT. 
          THAT'S WHAT  DRIVE. 
          90 SPEED LIMIT IS 65. 
          SO THIS ELIMINATES THAT. 
          65, 75, THEN 65 IN THE MIDDLE AND THEN 75 ON THE OTHER SIDE. 
          UH, RIGHT. 
          CORRECT. 
          YES. 
          THIS WOULD LET IT BE CO CONSISTENT. 
          HAD WE HAD THAT LITTLE SPEED TRAP WE WERE TALKING ABOUT. 
          WELL, IT WAS 65. 
          75. 
          65. 
          AND YOU SAID THAT'S ALREADY CHANGED. 
          OKAY, GOOD. 
          RIGHT, THAT WAS MY QUESTION. 
          IT'S ALL SEVEN FIVE. 
          YES MA'AM. 
          AS OF TODAY, UH, AS SOON AS YOU PASS OUT OF THE BAYTOWN CITY LIMITS, IT IS 75 HEADING TOWARDS EXCELLENT. 
          TOWARDS BEAUMONT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          PERFECT. 
          SO ORIGINALLY MY CONCERN WAS, IS THAT WE WERE CREATING A SPEED TRAP. 
          OKAY? I DRIVE THAT SECTION ALL THE WAY TO BEAUMONT REGULARLY. 
          MY MOTHER LIVES THERE, SHE'S 96 YEARS OLD. 
          I I KNOW IT WELL. 
          I GREW UP THERE AND I'M TELLING YOU THAT IS A REVENUE GENERATING SON OF A GUN BETWEEN ALL THE SPEED CHANGES BETWEEN THERE, 65, 60, 70, I MEAN. 
          SO I'M NOW I'M OKAY. 
          IT JUST, WE'RE GONNA MAKE IT ONE SPEED SO THAT WE GET RID OF THAT ISSUE THAT THAT'S GOING IN THERE. 
          YOU, 
          [01:40:01]
I DROVE THE OTHER DAY. 
          I'M NOT GONNA TELL YOU FAST I WAS GOING, BUT I WAS DOING EVERYTHING I COULD TO KEEP 'EM GETTING RUN OVER IN, IN, IN THE LANE. 
          SO THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME CONTINUITY. 
          I DON'T KNOW THAT FURTHER WEST IT NEEDS TO HAPPEN BECAUSE WE'VE GOT ALL THE TRAFFIC THERE, BUT THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME CONTINUITY ON THAT FREEWAY GOING DOWN. 
          I'M GLAD Y'ALL LOOK AT THE BOWMAN AREA BECAUSE WE WIDE, THAT FREEWAY'S GETTING WIDENED. 
          YES SIR. 
          IT'S GOT FOUR LANES THROUGH THE SECTION, UH, GOING IN THERE. 
          SO THAT, THAT I'M OKAY WITH THAT. 
          MY CONCERN WAS THE SPEED TRAP. 
          WE HAVE A DISCUSSION FOR MR. WEIR'S COMMISSIONERS COMMISSION. 
          NOPE. 
          PERFECT. 
          NEED A MOTION? I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE REQUIRE A MOTION OR WE JUST CONSIDERING IF WE RECOMMEND APPROVAL. 
          OKAY. 
          RECOMMEND I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE RECOMMEND APPROVAL FOR FOUR A AS STATED. 
          I SECOND WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. 
          ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. 
          ANY OPPOSED? ANY ABSTENTIONS? ITEM FOUR A CARRIES. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU MR. WEERS ABOUT THE BRIDGE, RIGHT?  SOME OF YOUR COLLEAGUES BACK. 
          WE HAVE TO TALK ABOUT THAT. 
          I, I STICK AROUND STAY AFTER THE MEETING. 
          WELL ACTUALLY, I DON'T KNOW, Y'ALL SOMETIMES TALK A LITTLE LONGER. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU JUAN. 
          ITEM FIVE DAYS 
          [a.  Receive a report from the Planning Director.]
DIRECTOR'S REPORT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, SO, UM, WE REALLY HAVE HAVE HAD ONE ITEM THAT WAS, I THINK THAT'S THE ONLY ONE THAT WAS APPROVED, UM, BY COUNSEL, UM, SINCE THE LAST, UH, P AND Z MEETING. 
          AND THAT IS NOT SOMETHING THAT REALLY AFFECTS THIS BOARD, BUT IF YOU GET ASKED ABOUT IT, I WANTED YOU TO BE AWARE. 
          UM, WE HAVE IN FACT, UH, INCREASED OUR PERMIT FEES. 
          THOSE WILL GO INTO EFFECT ON JUNE 1ST. 
          SO WE'RE GIVING EVERYBODY A LITTLE BIT OF TIME TO, TO, UH, GET, GET ACCUSTOMED TO THAT. 
          IT WAS REALLY ABOUT, UM, WE'RE KIND OF LOOKING AT A COST RECOVERY MODEL, UH, ON OUR FEES AND TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE GETTING TO, UH, THE DIRECTIVE FROM COUNCIL WAS TO GET TO AN 80% COST RECOVERY, UH, TO PROVIDE THE SERVICES THAT WE PROVIDE, UM, BY, IN RECOVER THROUGH THOSE PERMIT FEES. 
          UM, WE ARE NOT GOING TO GET TO 80% IN ONE MOTION. 
          THAT WOULD BE A PRETTY, UH, A PRETTY LARGE INCREASE BECAUSE OUR FEES HAVE BEEN VERY, VERY LOW. 
          UM, IN FACT ONE OF THE LOWEST IN THE AREA. 
          SO, UM, WHAT WE HAVE PROPOSED IS THIS FIRST INCREASE WOULD GET US ABOUT 12% AND THEN WE WILL KEEP CHUNKING AWAY AT THAT OVER THE NEXT FIVE YEARS. 
          SO IN THE NEXT FIVE YEARS WE'LL BE AT AN 80%, ROUGHLY 80% COST RECOVERY. 
          SO AGAIN, IF ANYBODY ASKS YOU, YES, WE ARE INCREASING THE FEES, THEY GO INTO EFFECT JUNE 1ST AND THEN PROBABLY, UH, I, I DON'T KNOW WHEN THE, WHEN EXACTLY THE NEXT, UH, INCREASE WILL GO INTO EFFECT. 
          UM, BUT IT'LL BE ROUGHLY ABOUT THE SAME, ABOUT 12%. 
          WE ALSO TRIED TO MAKE SURE WE LEANED ON SOME OF THE, UH, EITHER THE HIGHER DOLLAR, UM, FEES OR PERMIT FEES OR THE ONES THAT WE DO A LOT OF AND, AND TRY TO MAKE THOSE INCREASES. 
          KIND OF COVER SOME OF THE OTHER LITTLE THINGS THAT LIKE SAY, UM, I, AS A HOMEOWNER I NEED TO GET A, A POOL PERMIT OR A FENCE PERMIT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. 
          WE TRIED NOT TO MAKE BIG INCREASES ON THOSE BECAUSE THE EFFECT FOR US IS RELATIVELY LITTLE, UM, LITTLE INCREASE FOR US, BUT IT MIGHT AFFECT THE, THE HOMEOWNERS AND, AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. 
          SO, UM, SO WE, WE TRIED TO KIND OF GIVE AND TAKE A LITTLE BIT HERE AND THERE TO, TO MAKE IT MAKE SENSE. 
          AND SO AGAIN, THAT'LL SORT OF, EVERYTHING INCREASES AT LEAST A LITTLE BIT, BUT UM, THAT'LL TAKE PLACE OVER THE NEXT FIVE YEARS. 
          AND, UM, THAT'S THE ONLY ITEM I HAVE. 
          SO THANK YOU. 
          AND WE ARE AT ITEM SIX, ADJOURN HAVING EXHAUSTED ALL I AGENDA ITEMS. THIS MEETING IS NOW ADJOURNED AT 6:44 PM THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME, COMMISSIONER.
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