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TONS I THE GYM'S LIKE I NEED TO EAT.WE WILL CALL THIS COLLECTIVE BARGAINING SESSION BETWEEN THE CITY OF BAYTOWN AND THE BAYTOWN PROFESSIONAL FIREFIGHTERS ASSOCIATION TO ORDER.
IT IS THURSDAY, NOVEMBER THE SIXTH AT 2:00 PM UH, WE ARE IN THE BAYTOWN HOME ROOM.
AGENDA, IT'S CITIZEN COMMENTS.
[a. Consider the Baytown Professional Firefighters' Association's collective bargaining proposals.]
ALL RIGHT.WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM TWO A, WHICH IS, THIS WAS ITEMS, FIRST ITEM IS TO CONSIDER ANY, UH, PROPOSALS FROM THE BAYTOWN PROFESSIONAL FIREFIGHTERS ASSOCIATION.
YOU DON'T HAVE ANY AT THIS TIME WAITING RESPONSE FOR PREVIOUS.
[b. Consider the City of Baytown's collective bargaining proposals.]
MOVE ON TO ITEM TWO B, WHICH IS TO CONSIDER THE CITY OF BAYTOWN, UH, COLLECTIVE BARGAINING PROPOSALS.AND SO WE DO HAVE A COUNTER PROPOSAL, UM, UH,
UM, SO THIS IS A, A KIND OF A PACKAGE PROPOSAL.
UM, I'LL RUN THROUGH IT REAL, REAL QUICK.
UM, SO, UH, LIKE I SHOULD HAVE BROUGHT MY GLASSES TOO
I'M LIKE, I USUALLY GIVE OUT BY THE EVENING, NOT IN THE MIDDLE OF, OF THE DAY.
SO, UH, WE ARE COMING BACK WITH A PROPOSAL, UM, TO ACCEPT, UM, Y'ALL'S PROPOSAL OF REMOVING THE 48 24 48 UM, LANGUAGE AND JUST HAVING THE 48 96 UM, SHIFT CYCLE, UM, ON THE OVERTIME.
UM, WE ARE STILL PROPOSING THAT WE REMOVE THE VACATION AND THE HOLIDAY, UM, AND HAVE THAT TREATED AS NON-WORK TIME.
AND THEN IN THAT ARTICLE, 'CAUSE WE WOULD, UM, SIGN THE WHOLE ARTICLE, UH, KEEPING IN SOME PREVIOUS THINGS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT, TITLE CHANGES ON POSITION, AS WELL AS, UM, THE REQUESTS Y'ALL HAD FOR THE OVERTIME, HOW Y'ALL CALL THAT IN.
UM, IN TERMS OF THE BASE COMPENSATION, UM, WE ARE STAYING, UM, MOSTLY WITH OUR ORIGINAL PROPOSAL THAT WE AGREED TO, UM, WITH THE NET OF A 4% FOR FY 26.
AND I SAY NET BECAUSE THAT'S INCLUSIVE OF THAT 1.5, UH, PERCENT INCREASE THAT HAS ALREADY OCCURRED AS OF JULY BECAUSE OF THE SWITCH FROM THE 4 28 TO THE 14 DAY.
SO BETWEEN THAT AND THE ADDITIONAL, UM, TWO AND HALF PERCENT, IT STILL ARE REALIZED 4% OVER YOUR FY 25 UM, SALARY.
UM, AND THEN WE ARE PROPOSING, UM, TO GO AHEAD AND MOVE FORWARD WITH OUR ORIGINAL OFFICE OFFER FOR YEARS TWO AND THREE.
SO THAT'S A 4.25 AND A FOUR FIVE, UM, WITH WA WAGE ER FOR YEARS FOUR AND FIVE.
UM, AND THE REASON, UM, FOR THAT CHANGE IS AS WE DISCUSSED LAST TIME MOVING, UM, THE REASON, UH, FOR THAT, AS WE DISCUSSED THE LAST TIME, THE MOVE FROM THE 28 TO THE 14 EIGHT, UM, DOES CARRY WITH IT, UM, IN COST.
AND SO THAT IS PART OF, UM, WHY WE DECIDED TO HOLD ON YOURS FOUR AND FIVE AND COME BACK WITH ERS, THE CITY FALLS.
LIKE, UM, AT THIS POINT WE NEED TO STEP BACK AND, AND WATCH AND MONITOR THOSE CHANGES A LITTLE LONGER BEFORE PEOPLE FEEL CONFIDENT, UM, IN COMMITTING TO THE PEERS BORN FIVE.
AND WE HAVE, UM, ALL OF THE ARTICLES AND THE LANGUAGE THAT GO WITH EACH ONE OF THOSE THAT WE'RE HAPPY TO, UM, PRESENT TO Y'ALL.
YEAH, THERE'S, THIS IS, THIS IS SOME OF THE CONCERN THAT WE HAD WAS WE, WE UNDERSTAND THAT GOING TO THE 14TH DAY INCREASE IN THINGS, WE KNOW THAT MM-HMM
BUT WITHOUT THAT BEING LOCKED IN THE CONTRACT TOMORROW, YOU COULD REVERT BACK TO IT TO A 28 DAY PAY CYCLE AND THAT WOULD CHANGE US.
SO THAT WAS, THAT WAS, LIKE I SAID, THOSE WERE THE TWO HIGHEST THINGS.
THE MEMBERSHIP REALLY WANTED TO BE ABLE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE STAY ON THAT 14 DAY PAY CYCLE, WORK CYCLE, HAVE IT IN THE CONTRACT THAT IT SAYS THAT.
SO IF YOU DON'T AGREE, WE STAY WITH THAT FOREVER UNTIL WE AGREE ON SOMETHING
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DIFFERENT.UM, SO IF WE CAN WORK ON THAT, BUT IF YOU DON'T MIND, WE'LL GO CAUCUS ON THIS, UM, AND WE'LL COME BACK AND LET Y'ALL KNOW.
IS THE, DO Y WANT THE ARTICLE? OH, YEAH, SHOULD, YEAH, THAT'D BE FINE.
IS THE OTHER MEETING GROUP, IS THAT OKAY? YES, IT'S, Y'ALL CAN TAKE THANK THOSE ARE THE FIRST ONE EXTRA.
UM, AFTER MUCH DEBATE, A BUNCH OF PHONE CALLS TO THE FOLKS THAT COULD BE HERE, UH, THAT ARE ON OUR TEAM, UM, WHAT WE'D LIKE TO DO, SINCE I DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO PRINT ANYTHING HERE, SO I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO PRINT FOR YOU, BUT, UM, WE HAVE PUT THE COUNTER, UM, WHAT WE'D LIKE IS, AS WE TALKED ABOUT KIND OF RIGHT BEFORE WE LEFT, WE ARE, WE ARE OBVIOUSLY GOOD WITH THE 48 9 6 OR REMOVING THE 24 48 LANGUAGE.
WE WOULD BE OKAY WITH THE, UH, OVERTIME ARTICLE AS PRESENTED.
UM, THE, WE DO HOWEVER, WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THE 14 DAY SECURED WITHIN THE CONTRACT THAT WE'LL BE PAID ON A OR 14 DAY PAY AND WORK CYCLE EQUALLY.
AND THE COMPENSATION OF THE FOUR, FOUR QUARTER OF FOUR AND A HALF, THE ORIGINAL COMPENSATION PLAN THAT WE PROPOSED, WE WOULD LIKE TO REPRESENT THAT AS BEING DONE THAT WAY.
THE, THE PREVIOUSLY TEED FOUR, FOUR POINT A QUARTER, FOUR AND A HALF, FIVE TO FIVE GOING WITH THE FIVE YEAR CONTRACTS, SOLIDIFYING EVERYTHING RIGHT NOW, RATHER THAN HAVING TO DO REOPEN, I HAVE TO WRITE DOWN HERE, THAT'S EVERYTHING.
AND SO EFFECTIVELY Y'ALL WANT EVERYTHING WE AGREED TO BEFORE, PLUS YOU WANT A 14 DAY CYCLE AND YOU WANT THE 48 EVERYTHING PREVIOUSLY AGREED TO JUST WITH THE 14 DAY AND THE 14 9 6.
BUT WE, WE WOULD AGREE TO THE OVERTIME ARTICLE, THE WAY YOU GUYS PRESENTED IT WITH HOLIDAY AND VACATION, UH, ACCOUNTING AS TIME NOT WORKED.
I WAS LIKE, I DUNNO, 63 DOESN'T SEEM TO BE THE MAGIC NUMBER EITHER.
UM, SO, UM, OUR COUNTER PROPOSAL IS, UM, WE'RE AGREEABLE, UM, TO THE, WHAT, WHAT Y'ALL AGREED TO PLUS THE 14 DAY.
UM, WERE AGREEABLE TO YEAR ONE BEING OF 4%, UM, HOWEVER, YEARS FOUR AND FIVE WE WANT TO RE REMAIN AS ERS.
AGAIN, PART OF THAT, UM, AS I STATED EARLIER IS UH, THE CHANGE IN THE 14 DAY, UM, TO CON CONTINUE TO MONITOR THAT.
UM, AS WELL AS THE FACT THAT Y'ALL KNOW OUR BOND IS ITSELF.
AND SO THAT VERY MUCH IS IMPACTS, UM, OF THAT ISSUANCE AND POTENTIALLY OUR TAX RATE.
THAT IS STILL A VERY LARGE QUESTION.
UM, THAT RIGHT NOW WHAT WOULD BE ON THE TABLE IS WE HAVE TO BE ABLE TO CASH FUND ANY PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE, UM, WITHIN THE CITY FOR, YOU KNOW,
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OUR STREETS, OUR ROADS, OUR DRAINAGE, UM, ALL THOSE THINGS THAT HELD AND THE BOND, IT HAS TO BE CASH FUNDED.THAT IS A BIG QUESTION MARK FOR THE CITY.
UM, AND SO EXTENDING OUT FIVE YEARS AT THIS POINT WE'RE NOT COMFORTABLE WITH.
OKAY, YOU WANNA GO BACK AND TALK FOR A FEW MINUTES? SO TO BE CLEAR, YOU'RE, YOU'RE SAYING THAT THE GO BACK TO A THREE YEAR AGREEMENT WITH FOUR, FOUR AND A QUARTER.
FIVE YEAR TOTAL, BUT THREE YEARS ERS FOR FOUR FOOT, RIGHT? THIS HOUSE? YEAH, THE RAISE IS LOCKED IN FOR THREE YEARS.
UM, WE ARE OKAY WITH THOSE TERMS IF, UM, WE CAN DO SOME WRITING.
I, I KNOW WE PRESENTED A, UM, THE 14 DAY THING, PAYING WORK CYCLE.
UM, I DON'T, I THINK THAT WAS THE MOST VALID PLACE TO PUT IT WAS IN THAT AREA OF THE CONTRACT THAT SEEMED THE MOST, 'CAUSE IT WAS THE LS, A-F-L-S-A PROVISION.
SO I FIGURED THAT'S WHERE IT SHOULD BE.
SO YEAH, AS LONG AS WE HAVE THAT IN THE UM, REMOVAL OF 24 48, WE'RE OKAY WITH EVERYTHING ELSE.
COMPENSATION BEING THE FOUR, FOUR AND A QUARTER, FOUR AND A HALF AND THE REOPENER FOUR AND FIVE, WE CAN AGREE UPON THAT.
YOU CAN, THIS ONE BEFORE YOU SIGN IT FOR DISPOSES THE OVERTIME ONE, I WANT TO FLIP THREE PAGE TWO THAT HAS THE FLSA PORTION.
WE DID KIND OF WORD MERGE WHAT YOU PUT IN THERE.
THE THIRD PAGE, SAME THREE DIFFERENT PLACES.
I JUST SIGNED OFF THE, YEAH, I CROSSED THE LINES.
ENGINE FOUR FALLS 3 0 1 AVENUE, ENGINE FOUR FALLS.
THESE TWO OR ARE THEY JUST, I THINK THESE ARE JUST NO, NO, I DIDN'T COPIES OF THE UPDATES.
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ONE OF THESE ARTICLES, THE ARTICLES ARE MORE PLACEHOLDERS AS FAR AS WHAT THEY'RE MISSING.WE'RE GONNA RENUMBER EVERYTHING AGAIN.
SO ARTICLE 40 DOES REFERENCE THE BASE COMPENSATION PHASE.
SO THAT MAY POTENTIALLY SWITCH WHEN THE HELP ARE YEAH, THAT'S ORGANIZE AS FAR AS YEAH.
UM, WE'LL GET THESE PUT INTO THE CONTRACT AND SEND A COPY, NEW COPY OF THE ENTIRE THING FOR Y'ALL.
AND LIKE I LIKE AS BEFORE, IT'S WHENEVER I GET IT THE QUICKEST WE CAN GET IT 17 DAYS FROM THAT POINT.
IT BE 14 AND THEN A VOTING DAY.