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ALL WE WILL CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER.
IT IS A COLLECTIVE PARTY IN SESSION BETWEEN THE CITY OF BAYTOWN AND THE BAYTOWN PROFESSIONAL ASSOCIATION.
IT'S TUESDAY, OCTOBER 28TH AT 2:00 PM WE ARE ACTUALLY IN THE FIRST ITEM ON THE
[a. Consider the Baytown Professional Firefighters' Association's collective bargaining proposals.]
AGENDA THEN CITIZEN COMMENTS, CITIZEN COMMENTS, UH, MOVING ON TO BUSINESS ITEMS TWO A CONSIDER, UH, INSTEAD OF THE BAYTOWN PROFESSIONAL FIREFIGHTERS ASSOCIATION, DEPART THE TIME, JUST AWAI RESPONSE TO OUR PREVIOUSLY PERFORM PARTY.[b. Consider the City of Baytown's collective bargaining proposals.]
TO ITEM TWO, WHICH IS TO CONSIDER THE C OF BAY TOWN'S COLLECTIVE BARGAIN APPROVALS.UM, AND I ACTUALLY WANNA WALK THROUGH SOME INFORMATION, UM, TO SHARE WITH Y'ALL.
HEY, UM, SO I WANNA WALK THROUGH SOME NUMBERS.
UM, SORRY THAT JAY'S NOT HERE TO WALK THE NUMBERS WITH Y'ALL,
THAT IS AN UNDERSTANDABLE, I KNOW, I KNOW.
HE'D BE LIKE, NUMBERS GIMME, WELL, THE DRAWING.
UM, SO ANYWAY, I WANNA WALK THROUGH A COUPLE OF THINGS.
UM, Y'ALL, WHEN Y'ALL BROUGHT YOUR PROPOSAL BACK, UH, WE OF COURSE WENT BACK TO THE, THE BOARD AND STARTED LOOKING AT NUMBERS AGAIN.
UM, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF THIS, AS WE TALKED BEFORE, WE HAVE A BUDGET.
UM, YOU KNOW, AND SO THINGS HAVE TO FIT INTO THE BUDGET HAS TO, TO BE SUSTAINABLE NOT ONLY FOR THIS FISCAL YEAR, BUT FOR, SO IN DOING SO, UM, ONE OF THE, THE THINGS THAT WE CAME ACROSS AND, AND, AND JUST HAD TO HAVE A, A NUMBER OF CONVERSATIONS RECENTLY WITH TERESA AND JAY BECAUSE THE OVERTIME BUDGETS CAME IN HIGHER THAN EXPECTED.
BUT DIGGING INTO THAT, UM, A LITTLE MORE IN THINKING ABOUT OUR PROPOSAL, I WANNA WALK THROUGH A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT WE HAVE SINCE, UM, FOUND HAPPENING WITH SOME OF THE CHANGES THAT HAVE HAPPENED RECENTLY WITH THE, UM, SCHEDULING AND, UM, AND SO THAT IS THE IMPACT FROM A 28 DAY CYCLE TO A 14 DAY CYCLE.
UM, SO YOU'LL SEE UP AT THAT FIRST LINE, UH, YOUR ANNUAL HOURS WORKED IS 26 88.
WE'RE JUST FOR THE PURPOSES OF THIS EXAMPLE, WE'RE JUST LOOKING AT THE SALARY OF A YEAR.
UM, SO THEIR HOURLY RATE, THE CONTRACT IS 29 86.
THAT GIVES 'EM A TOTAL OF JUST OVER $80,000.
THEN THE 28 DAY CYCLE, UM, THERE WERE 32 HOURS THAT WERE PRETTY MUCH ROLLED INTO OVERTIME AUTOMATICALLY THAT BECAME A HALFTIME RATE, UM, $477.
SO YOU ENDED UP AT ABOUT 80 AND $700 BASED ON THAT.
REGULAR HOURS WORKED WHEN WE WENT TO THE 14 DAY CYCLE, 112 HOURS.
NOW GET CALCULATED AT THAT HALF TIME JUST FOR THE REGULAR HOURS WORKED, BRINGING THAT TO 16, ALMOST $1,700, UM, FOR A SALARY NOW OF $81,935.
OKAY? THAT DELTA IS ABOUT 80 HOURS, ALMOST $1,200.
THE BUDGET IMPACT, IF, IF I JUST ASSUME EVERYBODY IN THE DEPARTMENT IS A YEAR ONE FIREFIGHTER AND CALCULATE THAT OUT, THAT BUDGET IMPACT IS $238,000.
IF I LOOK AT IT FROM, FROM THE LENS OF, YOU KNOW, A LITTLE MORE AVERAGE KIND OF RATE, $36 PER HOUR IS ABOUT $287.
WE WISH IT WAS $287, $287,000, SORRY.
UM, THAT SALARIES HAVE NOW INCREASED IN THE FIRE DEPARTMENT JUST BECAUSE WE WENT FROM A 28 TO A 14 DAY CYCLE.
OKAY? WHAT THAT ACTUALLY LOOKS LIKE IS ABOUT A 1.5% INCREASE IN SALARY.
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AND IF I LOOK AT THAT ACROSS ALL, UM, TIERS, THE TOTAL BUDGET IMPACT IS REALLY PROBABLY A BIT OVER $300,000 THAT THE CITY IS NOW OCCURRING THAT WAS NOT PREVIOUSLY BUDGETED FOR OUR ACCOUNTED FOR.SO THEN THE NEXT THING WE KIND OF STARTED LOOKING AT WAS, YOU KNOW, WE HAD SAID, HEY, INCLUDING HOLIDAY TIME AND VACATION TIME IS COSTING, UM, INTO THE OVERTIME CALCULATION IS COSTING THE CITY MORE AND MORE AND WE CAN NO LONGER SUSTAIN THAT.
AND SO THAT'S KIND OF WHAT THIS LAYS OUT.
SO AT THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR WHEN IT WAS 28 DAY CYCLE, AND AGAIN THIS, THIS FIRST SITE ON THE LEFT IS JUST LOOKING AT A YEAR ONE FIREFIGHTER.
AND CLEARLY I UNDERSTAND A YEAR ONE FIREFIGHTER IS NOT GETTING PAID OUT HOLIDAY TIMES, BUT THAT'S THE LOWEST SALARY.
SO THAT'S KIND OF THE, THE BOTTOM THRESHOLD, THE MINIMUM AMOUNT THAT IT WOULD COST US.
SO IF WE LOOK AT THAT, WE HAVE ABOUT 110, UH, FIREFIGHTERS WHO ARE ACTUALLY MAXED OUT ON HOLIDAYS.
AND SO THEY ARE GETTING THEM PAID OUT EVERY TIME A HOLIDAY ROLLS AROUND.
OKAY? THAT'S THE $492,000, OKAY? THAT AVERAGES OUT TO ABOUT 4400, 4500 PER FIREFIGHTER ON AN ANNUAL BASIS.
WHEN WE MOVE TO THE 14 DAY CYCLE.
AND, AND THAT'S ASSUMING ABOUT HALF OF THOSE HOURS GO TO AN OVERTIME CALCULATION.
SO A LOT OF THOSE HOURS ARE JUST STRAIGHT TIME PAY, WHICH STILL IS OVER AND ABOVE THE REGULAR SALARY.
ABOUT HALF OF IT WE FIGURE ROLLS INTO AN OVERTIME CALCULATION IN THAT 28 DAY CYCLE.
THE WAY THAT THAT WORKS WHEN WE MOVE TO A 14 DAY, BECAUSE OF THAT SHORTER CYCLE, THOSE HOLIDAYS ARE HITTING THE OVERTIME ON A, A MUCH MORE FREQUENT BASIS.
UM, AND SO WHEN WE LOOK AT, AT THAT AND NOW WE'RE ASSUMING THERE'S STILL 110 FIREFIGHTERS THAT ARE AUTOMATICALLY GETTING PAID OUT, UM, THEIR HOLIDAYS, THEY'RE ALSO GETTING A HALFTIME PAID ON TOP OF THAT.
AND SO THAT'S THAT 591,000 CALCULATION.
SO THE DELTA OF WHAT WE WERE PAYING UNDER A 28 DAY CYCLE VERSUS A 14 DAY EVERYBODY WAS A YEAR ONE FIREFIGHTER SALARY, IT WOULD BE ABOUT $123,000.
OKAY? AGAIN, IF I LOOK AT KIND OF THAT $36 AN HOUR SALARY, SAME SCENARIO ON THE OTHER SIDE, WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE WHEN IT WAS AT THAT 28 DAY, WHEN ABOUT HALF THOSE HOURS BEING PAID OUT, WE'RE PROBABLY GETTING A HALFTIME ON TOP OF IT VERSUS AT A 14 DAY CYCLE.
NOW WE HAVE ALL OF THOSE HOURS GETTING THE HALFTIME, UH, ON TOP OF, UH, THE HOLIDAY PAY.
NOW THE DELTA IS ABOUT 150,000.
SO JUST IN MOVING FROM A 28 DAY TO A 14 DAY CYCLE, UM, IT'S PROBABLY MINIMALLY COSTING US ABOUT 450,000.
AND THEN THIS JUST KIND OF WALKS THROUGH AND SHOWS A YEAR THREE FIREFIGHTER, BECAUSE AGAIN, THAT'S YEAR THREE IS WHAT IF IF SOMEBODY DOESN'T USE ANY HOLIDAY TIME, YEAR THREE, THEY'RE MAXED OUT, THEY WOULD START GETTING PAID OUT.
AND SO THIS LOOKS AT THE BASE SALARY, THE 85,000 IS WHAT'S CONTRACTED RATE, UM, CURRENTLY, UM, LOOKING AT THE, AND THAT THAT'S AT THE 28 DAYS CYCLE.
UM, SO IT'S THE 85,000 PLUS THE 47 FOR THE HOLIDAY PAYOUT GETS YOU TO A A 90,000.
AND THEN NOW THAT WE, UH, HAVE MOVED TO A 14 DAY SALARIES NOW AT 86, ALMOST 87 TO 5,752, ABOUT A 92 6 NUMBER, THAT IS A 2.5% INCREASE JUST NOW.
ARE YOU SAYING THAT EVERY TIME THEY WORK A HOLIDAY THEY'RE GETTING HALFTIME? YES.
THEY'RE NOT, THAT'S NOT HOW IT WORKS.
YOU DON'T ALWAYS GET HOLIDAY HALFTIME WE NEVER DID IN THE OLD 28 DAY CYCLE.
IT HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THE 28 DAY CYCLE.
IT HAD EVERYTHING TO DO WITH THE WEIGHT WAS PUT IN THE EXCU TIME.
IT WAS NEVER COUNTED AS TIME WORKED IN, IN THE NEW SYSTEM, THE WAY IT HAS TO BE PROCESSED, IT IS BEING ADDED IN
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THE OVERTIME CALCULATION WITH THE HALFTIME.WHY IN THE PAST IT WAS, WELL, WHAT HAPPENS IS WHAT COUNTING FOR AND A TIME WHEN IT ROLLS OVER INTO THE NEW SYSTEM, THAT'S WHEN THE OVERTIME CALCULATION IS CREATED.
SO WHAT YOU'RE SEEING IS EXECUTIVE TIME IS WHAT THE BREAKOUT IS, BUT THAT'S NOT THE TRUE CALCULATION.
THE TRUE CALCULATION HAPPENED
THIS IS NOT TIME WORKED AT ALL.
I'M SPEAKING OUTTA RETURN, I STOP
I'M JUST SAYING THIS WAS A, WE ARE NOT GETTING HALFTIME EVERY TIME WE DO A HOLIDAY.
IF WE WORK A 72 HOUR CYCLE, WE GET ZERO HALFTIME ON THAT HOLIDAY TIME.
IF WE DO AT 96, WE'RE ONLY GETTING TWO HOURS OF HALFTIME.
SO IF WE WORK A ONE 20 AND IT DOESN'T HAVE A KELLY DAY AND WE WORK A TRUE ONE 20 YES, THEN 12 HOURS ARE MAKING 18 HOURS.
BUT LIKE THE CALCULATIONS, IF YOU DID EVERY ONE OF THOSE ON THAT, THOSE NUMBERS AREN'T EXACTLY CORRECT.
THAT'S THE WORST CASE SCENARIO.
IF IT ALWAYS CREATED A HALFTIME, WHICH I KNOW IT'S HYPOTHETICAL, HOW DO YOU MAKE IT HAPPEN? BUT I THINK THAT'S A LITTLE INFLATED MORE THAN IT SHOULD BE IN MY OPINION, BUT I'LL STOP THERE POTENTIALLY YES AND NO A HUNDRED PERCENT IF YOU'RE, IF YOU ONLY WORK AT AT 96, THEN IN THAT CASE TWO OF YOUR HOURS WOULD GO INTO THE OVERTIME CALCULATION IF YOU'RE GETTING PAID OUT YOUR HOLIDAY TIME.
THE OTHER SIDE OF THAT THOUGH IS FROM GOING FROM THE 28 TO THE 1 0 6, SO YOU HAVE A SMALLER WINDOW, YOU ARE GOING TO PICK UP MORE OF THOSE TIMES BECAUSE YOU HAVE MORE OPPORTUNITIES TO DO THAT.
THE OTHER THING IS BECAUSE THAT THE NUMBER EXCUSE THINGS A YOUR NUMBER OF PEOPLE HITTING THE MAX AND ADDING TO HOW MANY PEOPLE CAN PAY THIS CONTINUALLY GOING UP.
AND THEN THE OTHER THING JUST FOR THESE SCENARIOS IS THAT YEAR ONE IS OBVIOUSLY NOT ACCURATE.
36 IS ACTUALLY STILL A BIT LOW FOR THE ACTUAL AVERAGE SALARY.
UM, AND SO KIND OF DEPENDING ON, OBVIOUSLY IS IT A A THREE YEAR FIREFIGHTER THAT THAT'S GETTING PAID OUT OR IS IT A MAX LIEUTENANT? WELL, THAT ALSO CHANGES THOUGH VERY QUICKLY.
SO, OH, I'M SORRY,
DO I THINK IT IS A FAIRLY GOOD MIDDLE OF THE ROAD SCENARIO? I DO.
IS IS THERE A POSSIBILITY THAT IT'S HIGHER AND COSTING US MORE? YEAH, THERE'S THAT POSSIBILITY TOO.
DO I THINK IT'S MUCH LOWER THAN THIS? NOT JUST BECAUSE LIKE I SAID, WHEN YOU TAKE IN A, YOU KNOW, USING KIND OF THAT AVERAGE SALARY AND AND STUFF, IT IS STILL A BIT LOW.
UM, AND, AND, AND I'M, IT MIGHT BE TWO POINT A HALF PERCENT AT A THREE YEAR FIREFIGHTER.
YES, BUT IT'S NOT GONNA BE A TWO POINT A HALF PERCENT ACROSS THE WHOLE, IN MY OPINION IN THAT POINT.
NO, I I THINK YOU'RE, I THINK YOU'RE RIGHT.
I APPROXIMATELY, YEAH, I THINK SHE'S APPROXIMATELY KIND OF A MIDDLE 'CAUSE THEY WOULD'VE TO BREAK DOWN EVERYONE.
I, I UNDERSTAND, BUT I STILL DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY IT WAS DIFFERENT BEFORE THEN NOW.
WE WERE PAID DIFFERENTLY ON THAT TIME.
WE NEVER, EVER, EVER GOT HALFTIME IN THAT HOLIDAY BID.
SO I FEEL LIKE THIS IS ONE OF THE BIGGER PROBLEMS IS THAT I'M GONNA LET YOU FINISH.
WE'RE GONNA, THAT'S WE, UM, SO LIKE I, I SAID, SO PART OF WHAT, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE STARTED LOOKING INTO THIS AND, AND STARTED RUNNING SOME OF THE NUMBERS AND TRYING TO FIGURE SOME THINGS OUT, WE HAVE NOT, YOU KNOW, WE HAD NOT PREVIOUSLY ACCOUNTED FOR THAT.
UM, IF WE MOVED FORWARD, EVEN IF YOU'D GO BACK HERE, UM, WITH NOT EVEN LOOKING AT HOLIDAY, THIS IS JUST STRAIGHT EIGHT, THIS IS JUST 26 88 HOURS.
WHAT YOU WERE GETTING AND WHAT, WHAT YOU ARE GETTING, THAT'S A ONE AND A HALF PERCENT INCREASE, YOU KNOW, MINIMALLY $300,000, RIGHT? THAT WAS NOT TAKEN INTO
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ACCOUNT PREVIOUSLY TO LOOK AT, OKAY, WHAT OFFERS ARE WE GOING TO MAKE? THIS IS ONE THING THAT WE HAVE TO GO BACK AND CONSIDER.THE OTHER THING IS BECAUSE IT IS A CHANGE AND IT IS A COSTLY CHANGE, UM, YOU KNOW, THE 28 VERSUS THE 14, LOOKING AT THAT AND FIGURING OUT, YOU KNOW, IS THAT SUSTAINABLE? IS THAT THE DIRECTION THAT IS THE RIGHT DIRECTION FOR THE CITY? SO IT, IT'S NOT JUST THE IDEA OF THIS ONE PIECE OF DOES VACATION AND HOLIDAY TIME GET COUNTED INTO THE FLSA CALCULATION? UM, WHICH, YOU KNOW, WE HAD ALREADY BROUGHT TO THE TABLE AND SAID, HEY, THAT'S NOT SUSTAINABLE.
UM, YOU KNOW, I TELL YOU THAT'S STILL NOT SUSTAINABLE.
BUT THEN THERE'S SOME OTHER THINGS AS WELL THAT WE'RE HAVING TO RECONSIDER TO FIGURE OUT, OKAY, WHAT DOES IT LOOK LIKE US TO PUT TOGETHER A PACKAGE THAT IS SUSTAINABLE FOR THE CITY, IS FAIR TO THE PROVIDERS, DOES ACCOUNT FOR THIS CHANGE IF, IF WE CONTINUE IN THAT DIRECTION.
SO, UM, WE HAVE BEEN WORKING THROUGH THIS AND TRYING TO FIGURE IT OUT.
LIKE I SAID, UM, YOU JUST IN THE LAST WEEK OR SO, UM, WE GOT SOME FINAL NUMBERS ON THE BUDGET WITH THE OVERTIME THAT HAS COME IN HIGHER, MUCH HIGHER THAN WE ANTICIPATED.
WE HAVEN'T DUG TO THE BOTTOM OF THAT TO FIGURE OUT WHAT'S GOING ON.
UM, SOME OF IT'S PROBABLY ATTRIBUTABLE TO THIS, IT'S MORE THAN THAT.
UM, SO WE ARE STILL IN PROCESS OF SORTING THROUGH ALL THE DIFFERENT PIECES.
SO WE DO NOT HAVE A COUNTER OFFER.
BUT I WANT Y'ALL TO UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, A WHERE WE'RE AT, WHAT HAS HAPPENED, THE PARTS AND THE PIECES THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT AND HAVING TO CONSIDER, UM, BECAUSE IT, IT'S BROADER THAN WHAT WE HAVE ON THE TABLE.
UM, SO WE'RE, I THINK WE HAVE THE NEXT SCHEDULE NEXT THURSDAY.
UM, SO WE'LL CONTINUE BETWEEN NOW AND THEN TILL, TILL LOOK AT THIS AND TRYING TO FIGURE OUT TO BE ABLE TO BRING A PACKAGE DEAL, UM, AS A COUNTER.
BUT LIKE I SAID, I WANTED Y'ALL TO GO AHEAD AND SEE THIS SO YOU CAN ALSO BE THINKING THROUGH THAT, UM, AND KIND OF UNDERSTAND WHEN WE COME BACK TO THE TABLE, WHAT WE HAVE BEEN LOOKING AT AND WHY WE'RE BRINGING BACK WHAT WE'RE BRINGING.
DO YOU MIND IF WE TAKE A FOCUS IN TALKING? I WAS WONDERING IF YOU'LL GRANT ME A LITTLE BIT OF LEEWAY TO POSSIBLY GO BACK TO.
WE HAD WORKED ON SOME STUFF IN THE PAST, LIKE I SAID IN OUR FIRST MEETING, OUR FIRST MEETING COMING BACK, THAT THERE WAS A LOT OF STUFF THAT WAS WRITTEN IN OUR SURVEY, PREPARED SOME THINGS AND IT WAS GONNA BE DEPENDENT ON HOW THINGS WORKED OUT.
BUT WE WANT TO MAYBE WE WANNA PRESENT THEM NOW AND THAT WAY YOU HAVE THEM TO A BAG OF GOOD.
THE FIRST THING SINCE WE'RE ON THAT TICKET ITEM RIGHT NOW, UM, WOULD BE A ADD TO THE OVERTIME ARTICLE, UM,
UM, AND, AND THE REASON SOME OF THIS CAME TO LIGHT WAS IN THE 20 YEARS THAT I'VE BEEN HERE, OUR PAY HAS CHANGED FROM A 26 DAY WORK CYCLE WITH A 14 DAY PAY PERIOD TO A 26 DAY WORK CYCLE, 26 DAY PAY PERIOD TO A 28 DAY WORK CYCLE AND A 14 DAY PAY PERIOD TO A 14 DAY WORK CYCLE AND A 14 DAY PAY PERIOD.
SO WE'D LIKE TO SECURE THAT AND UNLESS WE WERE BOTH AGREEING TO CHANGE IT, THAT IT WOULD JUST DO THE 14 DAY AT THE 1 0 6.
NOTHING ELSE CAN CHANGE FROM THIS POINT ON.
SO NOBODY WOULD HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT EVERY, LIKE, IT ABOUT EVERY FIVE YEARS GOING, OKAY, NOW HOW DO I PAY MY BILLS? IT'S DIFFERENT NOW I GOTTA CHANGE ALL THESE BILLS TO THESE DIFFERENT THINGS.
SO THAT WAS THE FIRST THING WE WANT TO PROPOSE TO YOU.
AND THE OTHER TWO HOT TICKET ITEMS THAT WE HAD, UM, WAS CHANGING AS WE HAD PREVIOUSLY PROPOSED.
THE HOURS OF WORK TO, UH, I'M SORRY, I FORGOT TO WRITE, WRITE THAT OUT, BUT TO ONLY HAVE A 48 ON AND 96 HOURS OFF IN OUR HOURS WORK INSTEAD OF HAVING
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THE OPTION TO GO BACK TO 24 48.UM, WE'VE GOT MULTIPLE, MULTIPLE EMPLOYEES OVER THE LAST FIVE, FIVE PLUS YEARS THAT WOULD NOT BE HERE UNLESS WE HAD THIS SCHEDULED.
WE DON'T WANNA LOSE PEOPLE AND WE APPROVED IT BY OTHER DEPARTMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN THERE FOR EIGHT YEARS.
WE'LL HAVE A BIG EXPERT
SOME OF YOUR DECISION MAKING WE ALREADY HAVE.
YEAH, I THINK THAT'S THURSDAY AT TWO.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE TEAM? OKAY.
OKAY, THEN WE WILL MOVE ON TO ITEM TWO.
[c. Consider setting the time and date for the next collective bargaining session.]
UM, SET THE DATE AND TIME, WHICH WE DO HAVE NEXT THURSDAY, NOVEMBER THE FOUR AT 2:00 PM FIFTH, SORRY, NOVEMBER 5TH.I WAS GONNA SAY, HOLD ON, WE HAVE A DIRECTOR'S RETREAT.
I WAS LIKE, THAT'S WHY WE CHANGED THAT.
OKAY, SO NOVEMBER SIX AT 2:00 PM UM, DID Y'ALL WANT TO GO AHEAD AND CONSIDER ANOTHER DATE AFTER THAT AS WELL TO GET IT ON THE CALENDAR? SURE, YEAH, THAT'S A APPEAL.
WHAT WAS IT? NOVEMBER 12, 13, NOVEMBER 12TH AT 1330.
IS THERE ANY POSSIBILITY OF HAVING ANY STUFF ON YOUR CALENDARS AVAILABLE FOR FOUR, TWO O'CLOCK, EIGHT MANY DAYS? ALL OVER
UH, ONE OF OUR MEMBERS, UH, DUE TO CHILDCARE ISSUES CAN NEVER BE HERE AFTER, AFTER, AFTER TWO O'CLOCK.
SO I WAS JUST WONDERING IF THERE'S ANYTHING AVAILABLE.
ALSO, I WAS WONDERING IS THERE ANY, WE HAVE TO GET THESE SLIDES SO WE CAN, YEAH, AND I THINK, DID WE SCREEN RECORD AS WELL? YES, I DID.
OH, SO THIS IS RECORDED AND IT'S SCREEN RECORDED, BUT OKAY.
UM, WE CAN SHOOT YOU THE, THAT'D BE GREAT.
IF THERE'S NOT, I UNDERSTAND WE HAVE TO DO, DEPENDING ON WHEN Y'ALL END.
WHAT ABOUT THE 13TH? WHAT IS THAT? WHAT A 10 OR A 10 30? Y'ALL HAVE 10 30.
SO AFTER 10 30 YOU'RE MEETING UP.
10 DAY MEETING PROBABLY WOULDN'T BE ON HOTEL ROOM.
YEAH, THIS, THE NUMBERS WON'T MATCH UP OKAY.
THAT'S WHY WE PUT SOMETHING ELSE.
UM, BECAUSE THAT WAS THE OLD BOLD NUMBER WHEN THEY ORIGINALLY PROPOSED IT AND THEN WHEN WE FINALIZED THE LAST ONE, IT UPDATED THE NUMBER SO IT JUST DIDN'T SYNC UP.
OKAY, SO THE, THE ISSUE OBJECT SHOULD BE HERE.
THE 13TH WOULD BE GREAT AT 10 30 IF WE CAN DO THAT.
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WE WILL THE MEETING THEN.