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[ CITY OF BAYTOWN NOTICE OF MEETING CIVIL SERVICE COMMISSION THURSDAY, SEPTEMBER 18, 2025 2:00 P.M. COUNCIL CHAMBER, CITY HALL 2401 MARKET STREET, BAYTOWN, TEXAS 77520 AGENDA CALL TO ORDER AND ANNOUNCEMENT OF QUORUM ]
EVERYBODY.UM, WE ARE HERE TO CALL TO ORDER THE CIVIL SERVICE COMMISSION MEETING TODAY'S SEPTEMBER 18TH.
IT IS 2:01 PM AND WE DO HAVE A QUORUM HERE.
UM, THE FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS, UM, IS ANY CITIZEN COMMENTS, WHICH WE DON'T HAVE ANYBODY SIGNED UP.
[a. Consider approving the minutes for the Civil Service Commission meeting held on September 4, 2025.]
MINUTES.WE'RE GOING TO CONSIDER APPROVING THE MINUTES FROM THE CIVIL SERVICE COMMISSION MEETING HELD ON SEPTEMBER 4TH, 2025.
ANY DISCUSSIONS? I'LL MAKE A MOTION.
WE ACCEPT THE MINUTES FOR THE SEPTEMBER 4TH MEETING.
ANY OPPOSED? UH, MINUTES PASS.
[a. Review of procedures for Civil Service Appeal Hearing by Civil Service Director.]
TO ORDER THE APPEAL HEARING FOR THE POLICE LIEUTENANT AND POLICE SERGEANT PROMOTION AND PROMOTIONAL EXAMINATIONS, WHICH WERE ADMINISTERED ON AUGUST 29TH, 2025.UH, BEFORE WE START THE HEARING OF THE INDIVIDUAL APPEAL QUESTIONS, I'M GOING TO ASK THE CIVIL SERVICE DIRECTOR TO PROVIDE AN OVERVIEW OF THE APPEAL PROCEDURE, APPEAL PROCEDURAL PROCESS.
AND BEAR WITH ME COMMISSION AND PEOPLE IN THE AUDIENCE.
I'M GONNA READ THROUGH THE CIVIL SERVICE RULES, WHAT THEY SAY VERBATIM, JUST SO THAT WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE AND GOING THROUGH THIS.
SO THE REASON FOR THE EXPLANATION IS TO ENSURE CLARITY AND UNDERSTANDING FOR ALL PARTIES INVOLVED IN THE APPEAL HEARING PROCESS FOR THE POLICE LIEUTENANT AND POLICE SERGEANT EXAMINATIONS, ADMINISTRATIVE AUGUST 29TH, 2025, THE EXPLANATION OF FACTORS THAT WILL NOT SUPPORT AN APPEAL PURSUANT TO THE CITY OF BAYTOWN CIVIL SERVICE RULES.
I WANT TO REMIND THE COMMISSION AND THE APPELLANTS OF THE FACTORS THAT DO NOT SUPPORT AN APPEAL.
THE FOLLOWING FACTORS WILL NOT SUPPORT AN APPEAL INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO ONE EVIDENCE THAT OTHER REFERENCE MATERIALS OR SOURCES SUPPORT AN ANSWER WHICH IS DIFFERENT THAN THE APPROVED ANSWER.
ANOTHER ANSWER WHICH IS ACCURATE IN CERTAIN LIMITED CIRCUMSTANCES, BUT WHICH IS NOT ACCURATE GENERALLY, OR THREE EVIDENCE THAT THE REFERENCE PAGE NUMBER IS INCORRECTLY STATED.
UH, PAGE NUMBER IS GIVEN ONLY TO ASSIST IN LOCATING THE BASIS FOR THE APPROVED ANSWER IN REGARDS TO THE STRUCTURE AND FORMAT OF THE APPEAL HEARING.
FOR EACH APPEALED QUESTION ON THE AGENDA TODAY, THE APPELLANT WILL BE GIVEN AN OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT HIS OR HER REASONS FOR THE APPEAL.
THE APPELLANT MAY DESIGNATE SOMEONE ELSE TO PRESENT COMMENTS IF THEY CHOOSE TO.
PURSUANT TO THE CITY OF BAYTOWN RULES, EACH APPELLANT WILL BE AFFORDED FOUR MINUTES TO SPEAK ON HIS OR HER APPEALED QUESTION.
AND IN THE CASE OF MULTIPLE APPELLANTS, YOU JUST ASK THAT YOU REFRAIN FROM GIVING REDUNDANT TESTIMONY OF SOMEBODY ELSE HAS ALREADY SHARED THE SAME PREMISE FOR THEIR REASONING FOR THE APPEAL.
AFTER THE APPELLANT HAS SPOKEN ON THE QUESTION, THE COMMISSION MAY ASK QUESTIONS OF THE APPELLANT, THE CIVIL SERVICE DIRECTOR, ANY OTHER NECESSARY PARTY.
THEREAFTER, OTHERS WHO HAVE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON THE SHEET THAT WAS OUTSIDE MAY BE GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TO THAT.
EACH SPEAKER WILL HAVE UP TO THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK IF THEY SIGNED UP AND THEY WEREN'T AN APPELLANT.
AND AFTER THE APPELLANT HAS SPOKEN AND OTHERS HAVE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK ON THE ITEM OR THE APPEAL ITEM IN QUESTION, THE COMMISSION WILL ARRIVE AT A DECISION BY MAKING A MOTION AND THEN VOTING ON IT.
THE COMMISSION WILL DECIDE ON ONE OF THE FOLLOWING.
FOR EACH A FIELD QUESTION, THE COMMISSION CAN KEEP THE SAME ANSWER THAT WAS ORIGINALLY LISTED ON THE ANSWER KEY.
THEY CAN CHANGE THE CORRECT ANSWER, THEY CAN ALLOW MORE THAN ONE CORRECT ANSWER, OR THEY CAN DELETE THE QUESTION FROM THE TEST IN ITS ENTIRETY, REMOVING IT FROM THAT.
AND AFTER THE COMMISSION VOTES ON THE APPEALED QUESTIONS, THERE WILL BE A RECESS TO RE SCORE ALL THE ANSWER SHEETS, AND THEN WE WILL COME BACK AND RETURN AND THE COMMISSION WILL CERTIFY THE WRITTEN EXAM ELIGIBILITY LIST AT THAT POINT.
JUST FOR REFERENCE, WHEN THE APPEAL, WHEN THE COMMISSION CALLS UP THE APPELLANT OR ANYBODY CHOOSING TO SPEAK, YOU'LL COME UP TO THIS PODIUM.
JUST STATE YOUR NAME AND YOUR RANK FOR THE RECORD, AND THEN YOU CAN SPEAK TO THE COMMISSION REGARDING WHATEVER THE ITEM IS THAT YOU'RE CHOOSING TO SPEAK ON.
[b. Conduct hearing and consider appeal of Question Number 16 from the Police Lieutenant promotional examination, which was administered on August 29, 2025. ]
THE FIRST HEARING IN CONSIDERATION, UH, APPEAL OF QUESTION NUMBER 16 FROM THE POLICE LIEUTENANT PROMOTIONAL EXAMINATION, WHICH WAS ADMINISTERED ON AUGUST 29TH, 2025.WE HAVE, UM, TERRIBLE AT NAMES ROOMING.
APPEAL THIS? WHY NOT? THANK YOU FOR GIVING ME THIS OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK ON THIS ISSUE.
MY NAME'S ROOMING B I'M A SERGEANT.
UM, SO THE QUESTION 16 IS ASKING FOR THE INCORRECT ANSWER AND IT, IT LISTED NUMBER, UH, CHOICE A WAS PARTIALLY CORRECT, CHOICE B IS PARTIALLY CORRECT.
CHOICE C IS COMPLETELY INCORRECT.
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AND CHOICE D SAYS A AND B.AND I THINK THE, UM, UH, THE CHOICES ARE CONFUSING BECAUSE IT'S, UH, IF THE QUESTIONS ASKING FOR THE CORRECT ANSWER, AND OBVIOUSLY THE CHOICE WILL BE CHOICE D, CHOICE A, AND CHOICE B BY WHEN THEY ARE STAND ALONG, THEY CANNOT BE CONSIDERED AS THE CORRECT ANSWER.
SO SINCE THE ONLY CORRECT ANSWER IS CHOICE D, SO THAT QUESTION HAVE THREE INCORRECT ANSWERS.
BUT WHEN WE ARE TAKING THE TEST, WE ARE NOT, UH, GIVEN THE CHOICE TO CHOOSE MULTIPLE, UH, ANSWERS.
SO, UH, A LOT OF PEOPLE CHOSE D IN INSTEAD BECAUSE WE ARE INSTRUCTED TO ONLY CHOOSE ONE ANSWER.
SO, UH, WHICH MAKE IT VERY CONFUSING, AND I WANT TO HAVE THIS QUESTION TO BE REMOVED FROM THE TEST.
ANYBODY ELSE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK? NO ONE ELSE HAS SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON THAT QUESTION.
ANY DISCUSSION? YEAH, JUST A COMMENT, UH, IN OUR INFORMATION, THE, UH, TEST WRITER SAYING THAT THE QUESTION IS, IS TAKEN VERBATIM FROM THE TEST MATERIAL, BUT I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING INDICATED HERE IN MY MATERIAL WHERE, WHERE THAT IS.
I GOT A COUPLE PAGES OF INFORMATION, BUT I DON'T SEE ANYTHING HIGHLIGHTED TO, TO SUPPORT THAT.
DO YOU HAVE I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING DIFFERENT THAN WHAT YOU HAVE.
WELL, THERE'S, ON THE SECOND PAGE, UP ON THE TOP, THERE'S A LITTLE RED MARK.
IS THAT WHAT THEY'RE WELL, I SEE THAT, THAT, DOES THAT MEAN THE ENTIRE PAGE IS HIGHLIGHTED? OR ONE WORD? YEAH, MAYBE THAT ONE SENTENCE.
YOU DIDN'T GIVE US ENOUGH INFORMATION.
IS THERE ANY MORE INFORMATION AVAILABLE FROM THE TEST RIDER THAT'S SAYING SPECIFICALLY THE TEST MAKER'S RESPONSE THAT YOU HAVE THE SHEET FOR WAS WHAT THEY PROVIDED BACK TO US IN REGARDS TO THIS QUESTION? OKAY.
WELL, AGAIN, I'M JUST CONFUSED, UH, AS TO, IT'LL USUALLY HIGHLIGHT THE QUESTION AND HIGHLIGHT THE ANSWER TO SHOW IT'S TAKEN FROM THE EXAMINATION MATERIAL.
BUT I GOT A COUPLE PAGES OF INFORMATION WITH NOTHING HIGHLIGHTED EXCEPT THE, THE ONE RED MARK AT THE TOP.
UH, AND, AND THAT I DON'T SEE HOW THAT'S GERMANE TO TALKS ABOUT AN AGENCY SUPPLYING A REPORT AND WHAT THAT HAS TO DO WITH RACIAL PROFILING WHEN YOU MAKE A STOP.
SO I I DON'T, I DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT MYSELF.
WELL, THE OTHER THOUGHT WOULD BE, UM, ACCORDING TO THE STATUTE AND THE ANNUAL REPORT IS TO BE SUBMITTED TO BOTH, UH, THE TEXAS COMMISSION ON LAW ENFORCEMENT, WHICH IS ANSWER A AND THE GOVERNING BODY OF EACH COUNTY OR MUNICIPALITY, UH, SERVED BY THE AGENCY, WHICH IS B AS YOU MENTIONED SERGEANT.
IT IS THO THOSE TWO PARTIALLY ANSWER ARE PARTIAL ANSWERS THAT YOU DESCRIBED, BUT THEY'RE LOOKING FOR THE, THE WRONG ANSWER.
INCORRECT, YEAH, THE INCORRECT ANSWER.
CAN YOU, CAN YOU COME BACK UP PLEASE? SO IF YOU LOOK AT QUITE, UH, CHOICE NUMBER D, IT WILL SAY A AND B.
AND, UH, IF THE QUESTION IS ASKING FOR THE CORRECT ANSWER, THEN THE CHOICE WILL BE D.
UM, SO WHICH MAKES A, B, C INCORRECT BECAUSE, UH, YOU WILL, UH, UH, SO THE RACIAL PROFILING, UH, WE MUST SUBMIT A REPORT TO TCO AND, UH, THE LOCAL, UH, AGENCIES LIKE STATE, UM, COUNTY AND, AND, UH, MUNICIPALITY.
SO, UH, SO IT HAS TO BE A MB BOTH TO TO BE CONSIDERED AS CORRECT WHEN THEY'RE STANDING ALONG.
THEY ARE, THEY ARE, THEY ARE NOT COMPLETE.
SO THEY ARE NOT CONSIDERED AS THE, UH, UH, CORRECT ANSWER.
YEAH, I, AND, AND I CAN HONESTLY SEE HOW YOU CAN TAKE AND, AND, AND BOTH WOULD BE PARTIAL, BUT FOR THAT INCORRECT ANSWER, IT, IT'S, IT'S STATED WITHIN THAT QUESTION.
AM I CORRECT THAT INCORRECT? YES.
SO TAKEN ASIDE, PUTTING ASIDE, UH,
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THE PARTIAL ANSWER, WHAT WOULD BE THE INCORRECT ANSWER? MY, AND THAT'S WHAT THE, THE, THE TEST, MY UNDERSTANDING IS, UH, A PARTIAL CORRECT ANSWER SHOULD BE CONSIDERED AS AN INCORRECT ANSWER AS WELL.THAT'S WHY THERE'S A CHOICE D OVER THERE.
IF THERE'S NO CHOICE D THEN I COULD UNDERSTAND, UH, JUST TO PICK THE INCORRECT ELEMENT OF IT.
BUT SINCE THERE'S A QUESTION B, UH, WHICH IS A AND B, SO WHICH MAKE A AND A CHOICE NUMBER A AND CHOICE NUMBER B, INCORRECT.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR, AND, AND JUST ANOTHER QUESTION BEFORE YOU GO, MR. B, UM, YOU'RE RECOMMENDING THAT WE ELIMINATE THE QUESTION, IS THAT RIGHT? YES, SIR.
SO DOES THE COMMISSION UNDERSTAND THE QUESTION? AGREE WITH THE ANSWER? ARE YOU CONFUSED LIKE I AM OR AM I, AM I THE ONLY ONE THAT'S GONNA NO, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S CONFUSING.
NOT A WELL WRITTEN, THE WAY IT'S LAID OUT, UH, WITH, EVEN WITH THE EXPLANATION THAT THE SERGEANT GAVE WITH A PARTIAL ANSWER, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION AND, AND SAY THAT, WELL, THAT'S AN INCORRECT BECAUSE IF IT'S ONLY PARTIAL AND, AND SO I'M, I'M WITH YOU.
WHEN, WELL, BECAUSE BECAUSE OF THE CONFUSION HERE ON, ON MY PART ANYWAY, UH, I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE, UM, ACCEPT THE APPEAL AND ELIMINATE THE QUESTION FROM THE TEST I SECOND AND ANY OTHER DISCUSSION THAT WE NEED TO HAVE.
THE ONLY QUESTION I HAVE ON THAT IS WHEN WE ELIMINATE QUESTIONS, I KNOW IT CHANGES THINGS.
AND IS WE, WE GOT FOUR MORE QUES OR THREE MORE TO LOOK AT.
DELETING A QUESTION IS A AUTHORITY THAT THE COMMISSION HAS TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT WILL, AND THAT'S, AND THAT'S THE MOTION RIGHT NOW.
SO WE ARE GONNA REMOVE THE QUESTION.
[c. Conduct hearing and consider appeal of Question Number 30 from the Police Lieutenant promotional examination, which was administered on August 29, 2025.]
NEXT ONE IS THE, CONSIDERING THE APPEAL OF QUESTION NUMBER 30 FROM THE POLICE LIEUTENANT PROMOTIONAL EXAM, WHICH AGAIN WAS ADMINISTERED ON AUGUST 29TH, 2025.AND WE HAVE, UH, MR. CLAYTON BREEDING, MR BREEDING HERE.
CLAYTON BREEDING'S NOT IN ATTENDANCE, BUT HE HAS REQUESTED THAT OFFICER CODY DOTSON, HE HAD SENT AUTHORIZATION TO SPEAK ON HIS BEHALF FOR THIS QUESTION.
I BELIEVE HE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK, YES, MR. DOON, GOOD AFTERNOON.
UH, THE REASON FOR THE APPEAL WAS THE CORRECT ANSWER, UH, WHICH IS 120 HOURS WAS NOT AN ANSWER CHOICE FOR QUESTION 30.
UH, I'VE GOT THE, AN EXCERPT FROM THE CCP THAT HIGHLIGHTS THE CORRECTED, UH, ADDENDUM.
ALSO, WOULD YOU LIKE OFFICER DOTSON TO BRING THAT BEFORE Y'ALL? WE, WE'VE ACTUALLY GOT SOME INFORMATION ON THIS INFORMATION THAT IS HIGHLIGHTED PROBABLY THE SAME THING THAT YOU HAVE.
SO I THINK WE'RE GOOD ON THIS ONE.
ANY, ANY RECOMMENDATION? COULD I, COULD I SEE IT PLEASE? SURE.
I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WHAT HE HAS, IT'S THE SAME ONE.
IS THAT A CHAPTER B, CHAPTER FOUR 20? AND THIS IS A DIFFERENT REFERENCE, WHAT HE HAS.
SO WHAT WE'RE LOOKING, BECAUSE HE HAS THE CORRECT ANSWER.
WELL, HE HAS THE CORRECT FROM WHAT, FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND THOUGH, THIS, THIS, THAT YOU'VE BROUGHT FORWARD IS FROM A DIFFERENT SOURCE, OR IS IT FROM THE SOURCE OF MATERIAL THAT WAS PROVIDED FOR THE TEST? THAT'S THE COPY OF THE EXCERPT FROM THE CODE OF CRIMINAL PROCEDURES, WHICH IS, WHICH IS A REQUIRED CHAPTER FROM A SOURCE MATERIAL ON THE TEST.
WHAT'S THE DATE ON THAT ONE? WE DON'T HAVE THIS.
WE, UM, THIS ONE IS, WELL, HE PRINTED IT ON NINE 18.
THE ONE WE HAVE IS DATED, UH, JUNE 1ST, 2015,
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10 YEARS OLD.HAS THERE BEEN A NEW ONE SINCE THIS IN THE PREVIOUS, UH, IN THE, THE PREVIOUS CODE OF CRIMINAL PROCEDURES BEFORE IT WAS UPDATED IN 23? UH, IT WAS NOT 120 HOURS AFTER.
AND SO TURN THE QUESTION WAS TAKEN FROM THE WRONG, WRONG MATERIAL.
AND, AND THE MAKER IS ALSO ADMITTING 120 IS SUPPOSED TO BE THE CORRECT ANSWER.
SO WE'RE WE'RE SYMPATHETIC TO YOUR APPEAL HERE, AND WE'RE JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND IT A LITTLE BIT BETTER.
JUST TO MAKE SURE WE'RE REFERRING TO THE RIGHT MATERIAL.
DO I HAVE ANY MORE QUESTIONS FOR MR. DODSON? NO.
NO, I DON'T, I THINK HE'S CORRECT IN THAT.
VERY MUCH, MR. DOON, YOU WANT YOUR BACK? OKAY.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON THE ITEM? NO.
SO THEN THE, UH, WELL, AGAIN, THE, THE TEST WRITER SAYING THAT THE TEST YEAH.
HE MADE A MISTAKE, RECOMMENDS ACCEPTING THE APPEAL, AND I'LL MAKE A MOTION.
WE, UM, UH, GRANT THE APPEAL AND ELIMINATE THE QUESTION THROUGHOUT THE QUESTION THROUGHOUT THE QUESTION.
WHAT WAS I,
THERE'S A MOTION ON THE FLOOR.
THERE'S A MOTION, AND IF IT'S, IF THERE'S NO SECOND IT'LL DIE BECAUSE THERE'S NO SECOND.
BUT, BUT IF YOU WANT, IF YOU WANT TO DISCUSS IT, YOU CAN EITHER SECOND IT AND DISCUSS IT AND THEN WE CAN VOTE AFTER WE DISCUSS IT.
NOW WE'RE GONNA HAVE DISCUSSION.
NOW WE'RE GONNA HAVE A DISCUSSION NOW.
NOW, TO COMPLETELY REMOVE THIS ONE, UM, I WOULD BE IN FAVOR OF, UM, YOU KNOW, MAKING ALL THE ANSWERS IS, UH, AS, AS A SECOND OPTION, I RECOMMEND THAT, UH, THE OPTION TO MARK ALL ANSWERS AS CORRECT OPPOSED TO ELIMINATING IT.
BECAUSE IF WE ELIMINATE OKAY, THEN WHAT WE'RE DOING IS MINIMIZING THAT EVEN MORE THAN, OKAY.
AND MY THINKING IS, IF, IF THE QUESTION DOES NOT HAVE A RIGHT ANSWER, I HAVE A, A TOUGH TIME ACCEPTING ALL THE ANSWERS IS CORRECT.
AND I THINK WE JUST NEED TO THROW IT OUT WITH MY THINKING ON IT.
THE, I MEAN, THE ONLY OTHER OPTION WOULD BE IS AS YOU'RE TAKING THE TEST, UM, AND YOU KNOW, THE ANSWER IS 120, THE BEST SECOND GUESS WOULD BE 96, WHICH WOULD THEN MAKE IT CORRECT, STILL NOT THE CORRECT ANSWER.
THAT'S STILL NOT THE CORRECT ANSWER, NOT THE CORRECT ANSWER.
SO IT'S, YEAH, IT'S NOT A GOOD, NOT A GOOD QUESTION.
SO, UH, OKAY, I'D LIKE TO GO FORWARD WITH THE ELIMINATION.
IS THAT, THAT'S, THAT'S JUST MY MOTION.
AND YOU SECOND, THAT'S JUST MY THOUGHT.
AND THEN WE HAVE THIS DISCUSS, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO VOTE ON THAT.
RIGHT? AND WE HAVE TO VOTE AND YOU WANNA VOTE.
SO ALL IN FAVOR OF ELIMINATING THE QUESTION.
WE'RE GONNA THROW THAT QUESTION OUT.
[d. Conduct hearing and consider appeal of Question Number 93 from the Police Lieutenant promotional examination, which was administered on August 29, 2025.]
CONSIDER THE APPEAL OF QUESTION NUMBER 93 FROM THE POLICE LIEUTENANT PROMOTIONAL EXAMINATION, WHICH AGAIN WAS ADMINISTERED ON AUGUST 29TH, 2025.AND WE HAVE, UH, AARON CORRALES.
HELLO, MY NAME IS AARON CORRALES.
SERGEANT, UH, THE QUESTION THAT I AM APPEALING IS QUESTION 93 OUT OF THE, UH, PROACTIVE POLICE MANAGEMENT BOOK, UH, THE CORRECT ANSWER SHOULD BE MEAT EATER AND THE LIST OF CHOICES ON THE TESTS WERE, UH, MAN EATER, WHICH IS NO CORRECT ANSWER FROM SELECTIONS.
SO I AGREE WITH THE TEST TEST MAKER TO MAKE ALL ANSWERS, UH, CORRECT ON IT.
ANYBODY ELSE SIGN UP TO SPEAK ON THAT ONE? UH, WE'VE GOT, UH, CODY DOTSON AS WELL.
ANY DISCUSSION ON IT? UH, I DON'T HAVE ANY DISCUSS.
AGAIN, IT'S A MISTAKE, RIGHT? THE QUESTION DOES NOT HAVE, UM, A CORRECT ANSWER
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HERE.I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO UP OPPOSE THE APPEAL ACCEPTING OF ALL ANSWERS.
UM, MORE DISCUSSION,
AGAIN, I FEEL IF THERE'S NO CORRECT ANSWER, WHY WE'RE WANTING TO MAKE ALL THE ANSWERS CORRECT.
THE TEST MAKER ADMITS MAN EATER SHOULD HAVE BEEN A DIFFERENT ANSWER.
AND SO, UM, IT'S JUST THAT THE ONLY CORRECT TERM IN THAT SECTION WOULD BE GRASS HEATER, WHICH WAS FORCED TO PICK THAT QUESTION.
THAT'S THE ONLY ONE FROM THE LITERATURE.
YEAH, I WAS READING THE LITERATURE.
WELL, WELL THE GRASS HEATER SOMETHING ENTIRELY DIFFERENT FROM THE MAN EATER, RIGHT? RIGHT.
BUT THAT'S FROM, THAT'S OPTION.
I MEAN, THE MEDIA FROM THAT MEDIATOR SECTION YEAH.
HE, HE GAVE US INFORMATION INDICATING YEAH.
THE MEAT EATER, UH, REFERS TO SOMEBODY THAT'S TAKEN A BRIBE.
AND THE GRASS EATER IS NOT, IS THE OPPOSITE OF THAT.
SO AGAIN, JUST MY THOUGHTS THAT I'M, I'M IN FAVOR OF, OF, UH, ACCEPTING THE APPEAL, BUT HAD I MAKE THE, MADE THE MOTION, I WOULD WANNA THROW THE QUESTION OUT.
BUT I'M OPEN IF YOU WANT TO MAKE ALL THE, ALL THE QUESTIONS.
UM, I, I WOULD, I WOULD PREFER TO BE CONSISTENT WITH IT IF WE'RE GONNA THROW OUT BAD QUESTIONS.
THIS ONE SHOULD BE THROWN OUT AS WELL.
'CAUSE IT'S A BAD QUESTION RATHER THAN ACCEPTING ALL ANSWERS IS CORRECT.
WELL, IT'S JUST NOT THIS BAD QUESTION.
THE INCORRECT ANSWERS INCORRECT.
NOT BAD, BUT INCORRECT, INCORRECT ANSWERS.
BUT I, I'D LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND MAYBE YOU WANNA WITHDRAW YOUR MOTION? WITHDRAW THE MOTION, ABSOLUTELY.
AND YOU WANNA MAKE ANOTHER ONE? UM, I MOVE TO, UH, UPHOLD THE UP APPEAL AND TO COMPLETELY REMOVE THE QUESTION.
ANY OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT, THANKS SERGEANT.
OKAY, NOW WE'RE GONNA GO TO, NOW WE'RE
[e. Conduct hearing and consider appeal of Question Number 45 from the Police Sergeant promotional examination, which was administered on August 29, 2025.]
GOING TO CONSIDER THE APPEAL OF QUESTION NUMBER 45, RIGHT? YEP.FROM THE POLICE SERGEANT PROMOTIONAL EXAM ADMINISTERED ON AUGUST 29TH, 2025.
HI, GOOD AFTERNOON, NATALIE ROBINSON.
DETECTIVE, UH, I'M APPEALING THE QUESTION BECAUSE ACCORDING TO HOW I'M READING IT, IT STATES AS TO PEDESTRIAN, WHICH ONE, WHICH ANSWER IS NOT CORRECT.
WHEN I LOOKED AT EVERY SECTION IN THE TRANSPORTATION CODE 5, 5 2, EVERY SINGLE ANSWER IS LISTED.
SO I DIDN'T FIND AN INCORRECT ONE.
ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. ROBINSON? NOT AT THE MOMENT, NO, I DON'T.
ANYBODY ELSE SIGN UP TO SPEAK? UM, YES, WE HAVE, UH, CUDI, DODSON AGAIN.
SO AGAIN, UH, THE TEST RIDER IS, YEP, UH, IT MADE A MISTAKE.
IT'S NOT A, NOT ACCURATE HERE.
UH, SO HE'S RECOMMENDING TO UPHOLD THE APPEAL.
AND AGAIN, I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE, UH, ACCEPT THE APPEAL AND DELETE THE QUESTION.
ANY MORE DISCUSSION ON IT? NO, NO, NO DISCUSSION.
WE ARE GOING TO TAKE QUESTION NUMBER, UH, 93 AND QUESTION 45.
WE'RE READY TO TAKE A RECESS TO READ THE TEST.
SO WE HAVE FINISHED THE APPEAL INFORMATION, UM, FOR THE COMMISSION TO CONSIDER.
[f. Recess to re-grade test(s), if necessary.]
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RECESS TO REGRADE THE TEST.CURRENT TIME IS 2:26 PM AND WE'LL REOPEN THE MEETING AFTER THE TESTS HAVE BEEN REGRADED.
[g. Reconvene the meeting to announce new test scores, if appropriate.]
2 58 AND WE WILL RECONVENE THE APPEAL HEARING FOR THE POLICE LIEUTENANT AND POLICE SERGEANT PROMOTIONAL EXAMINATIONS, WHICH WERE ADMINISTERED ON AUGUST 29TH, 2025.[h. Certification of Police Lieutenant and Police Sergeant written promotional exam scores.]
BACK TO THE SCORES.THE FIRST SECTION IS THE POLICE LIEUTENANT, AND THE SCORES HAVE BEEN PUT IN RANK.
UH, IN RANK NUMBER ONE, AARON CORRALES.
NUMBER FOUR, CLAYTON BREEDING.
SO ON THOSE, ARE WE GONNA DO THE SECOND LIST FIRST OR DO YOU WANT TO, YOU CAN NOW READ THE POLICE SERGEANT LIST.
THEN THE POLICE SERGEANT LIST AND THE RANKING.
STARTING WITH NUMBER ONE, START LARON 89.9, NUMBER TWO, CODY DODSON, 86.9.
NUMBER THREE, NATALIE ROBINSON, 84.84.
NUMBER SEVEN, JESSICA GALE GALLEGOS, GALLEGOS 70.7.
AND ALSO NUMBER SEVEN, MARSHALL PIG, 70.7.
AND IT SAYS DOWN HERE, NOT DONE THE TIE BREAKING PROCEDURE YET.
WE, UH, APPROVE THE SCORES FOR THE POLICE LIEUTENANT AND POLICE SERGEANT PROMOTIONAL EXAM.
SO THE LIST IS HEREBY CERTIFIED AS OF SEPTEMBER 18TH, 2025.
JUST AS A REMINDER TO THE COMMISSION, THIS IS THE PD.
PROMOTIONAL TESTING IS TWO PORTIONS.
THERE'S THE WRITTEN EXAMINATION, WHICH WE JUST WENT THROUGH THE PROCESS.
THEY HAVE AN ASSESSMENT CENTER COMING UP OCTOBER 6TH THROUGH THE 10TH OR NINTH.
AND ONCE THAT ASSESSMENT CENTER PORTION IS DONE, WE WILL COMBINE THE WRITTEN SCORES, THE ASSESSMENT CENTER SCORES, AND SOME OTHER HARD POINTS THAT ARE LISTED IN THE CIVIL SERVICE RULES.
AND THAT WILL BE BROUGHT BACK BEFORE THE COMMISSION TO FINALIZE THE FINAL CERTIFICATION ELIGIBILITY LIST FOR PROMOTIONS.
ALRIGHT, WELL, WITH NOTHING ELSE TO DISCUSS, I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE APPEAL HEARING FOR THE POLICE LIEUTENANT, POLICE SERGEANT PROMOTIONAL EXAMS, WHICH WERE ADMINISTERED ON AUGUST 29TH, 2025 AT 3:01 PM WE'RE ADJOURNED.