* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. ALL [00:00:01] RIGHT. I CALLED THE MEETING THIS CALLED [ CITY OF BAYTOWN NOTICE OF MEETING NOTICE OF JOINT BOARD OF DIRECTORS MEETING OF THE BAYTOWN REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY AND TAX INCREMENT REINVESTMENT ZONE NUMBER ONE, CITY OF BAYTOWN, TEXAS TUESDAY, AUGUST 12, 2025 4:00 P.M. COUNCIL CHAMBER, CITY HALL 2401 MARKET STREET, BAYTOWN, TEXAS 77520 AGENDA CALL TO ORDER AND ANNOUNCEMENT OF QUORUM ] ORDER, THIS MEETING OF THE, UH, JOINT MEETING OF THE BAYTOWN REDEVELOPMENT THIRD AUTHORITY AND TAX MENT REINVESTMENT ZONE TS NUMBER ONE. AND IT'S NOW 4 0 4, 4 0 5. I DON'T KNOW WHICH ONE WE'RE GOING AFTER. SO, [1. CITIZEN COMMENTS Notice is hereby given that in accordance with the Texas Open Meetings Act, Texas Government Code, Chapter 551, prohibits the Baytown Redevelopment Authority and Tax Increment Reinvestment Zone No. One from discussing, deliberating, or considering, subjects for which public notice has not been given on the agenda. Issues that cannot be referred to the administration for action may be placed on the agenda of a future Baytown Redevelopment Authority and Tax Increment Reinvestment Zone No. One Session.] UH, FIRST ORDER BUSINESS ITEM ONE IS CITIZENS' COMMENTS AND WE HAVE ONE CITIZEN HAS SIGNED UP, UH, DESIREE KLAUS IS MY PRONOUNCING THAT RIGHT? YES. OKAY, GOOD. GOT ONE THING GOING? YES, MA'AM. IF YOU WILL STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS. YES, MY NAME'S DESIREE KLAUS. AND, UM, I'M SORRY, WHAT ELSE? YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS? UM, 9 0 2 6 BLUE STAR LANE, BAYTOWN, TEXAS. OKAY. UM, SO MOSTLY I'M HERE TODAY BECAUSE I AM LEARNING ABOUT EVERYTHING THAT'S HAPPENING IN BAYTOWN WITH THE NEW REINVESTMENTS, WITH THE FIDELITY AND ANDERSON MARKETPLACE. AND AS A ACTIVE CITIZEN IN THIS COMMUNITY, I'M SURE THERE'S A LOT OF QUESTIONS THAT A LOT OF, SOME OF OUR CITIZENS MAYBE HAVEN'T HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO ASK. AND SO MAYBE Y'ALL HAVE ANSWERED SOME OF THESE QUESTIONS ALREADY. 'CAUSE I HAVE NOT GONE TO PREVIOUS, UH, PUBLIC MEETINGS. SO THIS, THIS, THESE ANSWERS COULD BE OUT THERE AND I JUST DON'T EVEN KNOW. BUT, UM, I HAVEN'T SEEN THE ANSWERS YET. AND SO I'M JUST CURIOUS AS IF Y'ALL HAVE THESE ANSWERS AND IF Y'ALL CAN GET 'EM TO THE COMMUNITY, NOT NECESSARILY LIKE RIGHT NOW OR TODAY, BUT JUST TO BE TRANSPARENT WITH THE COMMUNITY. AND I'M HERE ALSO REPRESENTING MYSELF AS A BAYTON AS WELL. SO, UM, ONE OF THE QUESTIONS I WAS MOSTLY CONCERNED ABOUT WAS, UM, HOW WILL RESIDENTS BE UPDATED ON PROJECT PROGRESS, UM, AND SPENDING, BECAUSE I KNOW AS A COMMUNITY, TRANSPARENCY IS REALLY IMPORTANT. AND I CAN SUBMIT THESE QUESTIONS TO Y'ALL IF Y'ALL LIKE. I I JUST HAVE LIKE A HANDFUL OF THEM. UM, ALSO, WHAT ARE SOME SAFEGUARDS TO PREVENT MORE THAN THE 22 MILLION BEING COMMITTED TO THIS PROJECT AND FUTURE PHASES? UM, WHO MAINTAINS THESE ROADS AND UTILITIES AND THE LONG TERM PROCESS FROM AND FROM WHAT BUDGET? UH, WHAT EXACT DELIVERABLES MUST BE COMPLETED BEFORE FIDELIS IS REIMBURSED? AND HOW WILL THE CITY ENSURE THAT THESE FUNDS BENEFIT BAYTOWN BE ON THE MARKETPLACE SITE? AND LAST QUESTION. 'CAUSE I HAVE ABOUT, LIKE I SAID, A HANDFUL OF THEM. WHAT ARE THE UPDATED REVENUE PROJECTIONS FOR THE TIRZ, UH, NUMBER ONE BASED ON CURRENT RETAIL TRENDS? SO THESE ARE JUST SOME QUESTIONS THAT I HAVE AS A CONCERNED CITIZEN IN THE COMMUNITY. AND LIKE I SAID, I HAVEN'T BEEN TO OTHER PREVIOUS MEETINGS, SO MAYBE Y'ALL HAVE ANSWERED SOME OF THESE QUESTIONS. BUT AT THE SAME TIME, LIKE AS A CONCERNED CITIZEN, I WANT TO BE ABLE TO ACCESS INFORMATION. AND SOMETIMES THAT'S HARD. I KNOW, EVEN ME WHO HAS ACCESS TO ONLINE, UM, OUTLETS AND, UM, THE PUBLIC MEETING, UM, FORUM AND STUFF LIKE THAT. SO THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I'M JUST HERE JUST TO ASK THESE QUESTIONS FOR THE COMMUNITY AND TO SEE IF WE CAN GET ANY RESPONSES BACK FROM Y'ALL. OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. I'M SURE WE'LL BE DISSEMINATING THAT INFORMATION THAT WILL BE COMING OUT FROM THE, THE CITY, UH, THROUGH, THROUGH THE PRESS. BUT THE CITY WILL ALSO BE POSTING THAT INFORMATION ONLINE AND YOU'LL BE ABLE TO CONTACT ANY OF THE CITY, CITY STAFF TO BE ABLE TO ACCESS THE, UH, ONLINE OPPORTUNITIES FOR THAT. OKAY. SO, ALRIGHT. ALRIGHT. CONCLUDES ITEM ONE [a. Consider approving a Tax Increment Reinvestment Zone (TIRZ) Reimbursement Agreement by and among Reinvestment Zone Number One of the City of Baytown, the Baytown Redevelopment Authority (BRA), and San Jacinto Retail Associates, LLC for the financing of public infrastructure improvements related to the redevelopment of the San Jacinto Mall property. ] HERE. MOVING ON TO ITEM TWO. AND WE WILL CONSIDER PROVING TAX ZONE REIMBURSEMENT AGREEMENT AMONG REPRESENTATIVE ZONE NUMBER ONE, THE CITY OF BAYTOWN REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY, AND SAME CENTER RETAIL ASSOCIATES FOR THE FINANCING OF PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS RELATED REDEVELOPMENT OF THE SANTA CENTER MALL PROPERTY. ALRIGHT, MR. CHAIRMAN, BEFORE WE BEGIN, I JUST WANTED TO NOTED FOR THE RECORD THAT I WILL NOT BE PARTICIPATING IN THE VOTE, UH, ON THE, UH, UH, TAX INCREMENT REINVESTMENT, UH, AGREEMENT, UH, FOR ST. MALL PROPERTY, UH, BECAUSE OF MY PRIOR, UH, INVOLVEMENT, UH, IN THIS TRANSACTION. AND I HAVE FILED A CONFLICT OF INTEREST STATEMENT WITH THE, UH, COUNTY CLERK'S OFFICE PREVIOUSLY. OH, OKAY. THANK YOU SIR. ALRIGHT, SO NOTED. UH, THANK YOU MR. CHAIRMAN. UM, UH, BRIAN MORAN, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT MANAGER. SO THE ITEM, FIRST ITEM ON YOUR AGENDA THIS AFTERNOON FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION IS THE REIMBURSEMENT, UM, AGREEMENT WITH SANDINO RETAIL ASSOCIATES FOR THE, UH, SAN JUSTINO MARKETPLACE. UM, THIS SITE, UH, IT'S BEEN A LONGSTANDING, UH, PRIORITY, UH, FOR REVITALIZATION FOR OUR COMMUNITY. UM, YOU KNOW, THE [00:05:01] OVERALL GOAL IS TO BRING, UM, NEW LIFE, UM, INTO THIS PROPERTY. UM, BUT WITH THAT ALSO COMES THE, THE NEEDED, UH, PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE, UH, THAT'LL SET THE STAGE FOR THE LONG-TERM GROWTH, UM, AND SUCCESS. AND SO THIS ISN'T A TRADITIONAL, UH, PUBLIC PROJECT. UM, THE, THE REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY IS NOT INCURRING, UM, ANY DEBT. UM, INSTEAD FOR THE PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE, THE FUNDING IS GONNA BE THROUGH THE TAX INCREMENT, UH, FINANCING, MEANING THAT ONLY NEW TAX REVENUE THAT'S GENERATED AND CREATED BY THIS DEVELOPMENT IS ONLY GONNA BE USED FOR REPAYMENT, UM, OF THE PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE AND AMENITIES. UM, NO EXISTING TAX DOLLARS ARE AT RISK. UM, FIDELIS, UH, SAN JACINTO RETAIL ASSOCIATES, UM, AS THE DEVELOPER IS RUNNING THE CAPITAL, UH, THAT'S NEEDED FOR, UH, THE PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE. AND SO AT THIS POINT, ASSUMING THE FINANCIAL RISK, UH, THEY WILL BE DESIGNING AND CONSTRUCTING, UM, UP TO AROUND 15 POINT, UH, $2 MILLION, UM, IN PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS. AND SOME OF THOSE IMPROVEMENTS INCLUDE, UH, NEW PUBLIC ROADWAYS, EXPANSIONS TO INDEPENDENCE AND LONE STAR AVENUE, UM, AS WELL AS MEETING ALL OF THE CITY RIGHT OF WAY STANDARDS, UM, INCLUDING, UH, THE PAVEMENT AND CONCRETE THICKNESS, UH, THE 10 FOOT SIDEWALKS LIGHTING, AS WELL AS ENHANCED LANDSCAPING, UH, THROUGHOUT THOSE CORRIDORS. THEY ALSO BE, UM, INSTALLING NEW, UH, DECELERATION LANES OFF OF THE INTERSTATE 10 FEEDER ROAD, AS WELL AS, UH, TWO RIGHT TURN LANES INTO THE DEVELOPMENT. UH, ALSO THEY'LL BE, UH, PROVIDING NEW UNDERGROUND ELECTRICAL DUCK BANK, UH, DEDICATED STORM WATER, UH, MOVEMENT, UH, UNDERGROUND CULVERT FOR LONE STAR. UM, SO REALLY, UH, FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION, UM, AS THE, AS THE AUTHORITY IS TO, UH, REIMBURSE THOSE ELIGIBLE EXPENSES AS WELL AS, UH, THE DEVELOPER'S FINANCING COSTS, UM, ONLY FROM THE TAX INCREMENT OR THE INCREASE THAT'S GENERATED SPECIFICALLY BY, UH, THIS DEVELOPMENT, UH, TO THE SAFEGUARDS THAT HAVE BEEN PUT IN PLACE IS THE MAXIMUM REIMBURSEMENT CAP OF THE 22 MILLION, WHICH IS ONE OF THE HARD STOPS. AND THEN, UH, THE SECOND SAFEGUARD REALLY IS THE TERM LIMIT. UM, SO THE AGREEMENT, UH, GOES UP TO JANUARY 1ST, 2020 46, OR THAT IS ALSO THE EXPIRATION, UM, OF THE, OF THE ZONE. UH, WE ALSO HAVE REPRESENTATIVES FROM, UM, FIDELIS, WE HAVE REPRESENTATIVES FROM CITY ENGINEERING AS WELL AS MASTERSON FINANCIAL ADVISORS, UM, THAT ARE HERE TODAY TO ANSWER ANY OF THE MORE SPECIFIC TECHNICAL QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE. OKAY. ALRIGHT. NEED A MOTION? YES, MA'AM. AND THEN I HAVE A, YOU HAVE A MOTION, A QUESTION? I'LL MAKE THE MOTION THAT WE ACCEPT THIS. OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION HERE. A SECOND, SECOND. SECOND. SECOND. ALRIGHT, WE HAVE A SECOND, MR. CARRIER. ALRIGHT, ANY COMMENTS FROM MR. MY QUESTION? UM, MR. MORAN, BEING THAT WE JUST RECEIVED A FEW QUESTIONS, ARE WE ABLE TO ANSWER ONE OF THEM ABOUT WHO WILL MAINTAIN THE ROADS THAT THEY'RE GONNA INSTALL THERE? YES. THE CITY OF BAYTOWN WILL MAINTAIN THE, THE ROADS. PERFECT. THANK YOU. THAT WILL BE ON ALL THOSE, ALL THE ROADS THAT WILL BE ASSOCIATED WITH THAT. THAT IS CORRECT. NOT JUST LONE STAR, BUT POSSIBLY. AND, AND IF I MAY, UM, MS. GIL TO FOLLOW UP ON, UH OH, YOU ARE, HEY, I'M LOOKING AROUND FOLLOW UP ON YOUR QUESTION AND YOUR QUESTION AS WELL, MA'AM. THANK JESUS. UM, YOU KNOW, THIS IS A REIMBURSEMENT YES. GRANT, AND, YOU KNOW, THE DEVELOPER IS INSTALLING INFRASTRUCTURE ABOVE AND BEYOND WHAT WAS NEEDED FOR THEIR DEVELOPMENT AT THE REQUEST OF THE CITY. YES. AND SO AS BASICALLY THE DEVELOPER, [b. Consider approving a Consulting Services Agreement with Equi-Tax Inc.] UM, COVERING THOSE, UM, BASE SERVICES. AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE, UM, GENERAL JENNIFER VILLE, UM, WHO IS WITH EQUIFAX. SHE'S HERE, UH, THIS AFTERNOON. IF THERE'S ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE ABOUT EQUIFAX OR ANY OF THOSE SERVICES THAT I'VE MENTIONED. OKAY. THAT WAS A KIND OF A ESTIMATED 5,000 ANNUALLY? YES. OKAY. SO IF THERE'S ANY NEED TO EXCEED THAT WOULD NEED TO COME BACK BEFORE THE BOARD OR HOW WOULD THAT, UM, I THINK WE HAVE OUR ATTORNEY ON SANDY . HOLD ON. THERE WE GO. CAN YOU HEAR ME? CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES. SEE YOU. WE CAN SEE YOU NOW. OKAY. SEE MR. DAVIS [00:10:01] AS WELL? YES. IF WE, AND SO, OKAY, GO AHEAD. SO TO DID I, I WANTED TO MAKE SURE I HEARD YOUR QUESTION CORRECTLY. THAT THE ISSUE WAS IF, UM, IF THE CONTRACT AMOUNT, IF YOU NEEDED ADDITIONAL FUNDS FOR IT, HOW WOULD THAT WORK? WAS THAT CORRECT? YES, MA'AM. YEAH, NO, IT, YOU WOULD COME BACK FOR AN AMENDMENT TO THE BOARD. SO HE WOULD BE, IF THE EXPENDITURES WERE GOING TO EXCEED THE AMOUNT THAT IT WAS LIMITED TO, YOU WOULD HAVE TO COME BACK AND GET FURTHER APPROVAL FOR REVIEW AND IT WOULD BE AN AMENDMENT TO THE CONTRACT. OKAY. UH, FOLLOW UP QUESTION ON THAT. UM, WOULD WE HAVE THE ADMINISTRATIVE ABILITY FOR A TYPICAL CHANGE ORDER LIMIT, UH, FOR THIS TYPE OF CONTRACT TYP? THIS IS A PROFESSIONAL SERVICE CONTRACT, SO IT, IT IS NOT GENERALLY LIMITED TO THE SAME TYPE OF CHANGE ORDER LIMITATIONS THAT YOU WOULD HAVE ON A, ON A CONTRACT THAT WAS BID, UM, FOR A FIXED PRICE. UM, SO WITH ANYTHING, ONCE YOU START GETTING TO A POINT WHERE YOU'RE DOING 25 PLUS MORE OF A CHANGE, IF YOU WERE PROCURING IT, YOU MIGHT WANNA CONSIDER REPROCURING IT, BUT THAT REALLY WOULDN'T APPLY IN THIS SITUATION. OKAY. I WAS JUST THINKING ABOUT THE SITUATION WHERE IT'S LIKE, YOU KNOW, $5,100 OR SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES. YEAH. BUT, UM, I THINK, UH, I THINK WE MEET, UH, OFTEN ENOUGH AND, YOU KNOW, WE CAN JUST LOOK AT THAT AND IF WE HAVE TO COME BACK AND BEG FOR FORGIVENESS, WE'LL DO THAT. BUT, UM, WELL, IF WE SEE, I, I WOULD SAY IF WE SEE IT'S STARTING TO ENCROACH THAT 5,000, THEN WE CAN TAKE, TAKE ACTION TO POSSIBLY. SOUNDS GOOD. LOOK AT THAT. I'LL MAKE THE MOTION TO MOVE. ALRIGHT, WE HAVE A MOTION. SECOND. YOU'RE A SECOND. ALRIGHT, I HAVE A SECOND. UH, SECOND ON MICHAEL. MICHAEL. OKAY. ALRIGHT. I HAVE A QUESTION, BRIAN. SO THE, UM, THIS FIRM WOULD WORK INDEPENDENT IN FINANCES OR WOULD THEY WORK COLLABORATIVELY WITH THE CITY FINANCE DEPARTMENT? WOULD THERE BE ANY CROSSING OR WOULD THEY SOLELY DO EVERYTHING THEMSELVES? NO, THEY WOULD WORK IN, IN TANDEM WITH THE CITY'S FINANCE DEPARTMENT. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, GOOD DEAL. ALRIGHT, ANY FURTHER COMMENTS, QUESTIONS? ALRIGHT, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED LIKE SIGN. ALRIGHT, WE HAVE FULL AGREEMENT ON ITEM TWO B. MOVING ON TO [c. Consider approving a Consulting Services Agreement with Community Development Strategies (CDS) and John Stover & Associates to complete a Market and Feasibility Demand Analysis for the City of Baytown's Tax Increment Reinvestment Zones. ] ITEM TWO C. CONSIDER APPROVING CONSULTING SERVICES AGREEMENT WITH COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT STRATEGIES, CDS AND JOHN STOVER AND ASSOCIATES TO COMPLETE A MARKETING A MARKET AND FEASIBILITY ANALYSIS. ALRIGHT, UH, UH, THANK YOU, UH, MR. CHAIRMAN. SO THIS ITEM, UH, FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION, UM, IS A CONSULTING SERVICES AGREEMENT WITH, UH, CDS AND JOHN SILVER AND ASSOCIATES. UH, THE CITY A FEW MONTHS AGO WENT OUT FOR A REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS, UM, YOU KNOW, TO EXPLORE THE OPTION TO DO THIS MARKET AND FEASIBILITY, UM, ANALYSIS. UM, TO MY RECOLLECTION, WHAT I WAS, AS I WAS KIND OF DIGGING THROUGH THE MINUTES, I THINK IT'S BEEN AT LEAST 10, IF NOT MORE, MORE YEARS SINCE THIS TYPE OF, UH, STUDY WAS COMPLETED. UM, AND THIS REALLY AS WE'RE, YOU KNOW, COMING TO A PRESS, UH, CRITICAL POINT, UM, YOU KNOW, WITH ZONE, ZONE NUMBER ONE THAT IT'S IMPORTANT, YOU KNOW, AS THE DEVELOPMENT ENVIRONMENT HAS CHANGED, YOU KNOW, THE LAST COUPLE YEARS FROM THE LAST FIVE YEARS, 10 YEARS. UM, YOU KNOW, HOW DOES OUR, OUR STRATEGY, UM, YOU KNOW, WHEN IT COMES TO, YOU KNOW, REGARDING THE REINVESTMENT ZONES THAT YOU ALL ARE MANAGING, UM, REALLY NEEDS TO REFLECT, UH, TODAY'S REALITIES AND NOT NECESSARILY YESTERDAY'S ASSUMPTIONS. AND SO WHAT'LL BE INCLUDED IN, YOU KNOW, THIS MARKET ANALYSIS IS A COMPREHENSIVE AND THOROUGH REVIEW OF OUR MARKET CONDITIONS, UM, DEMOGRAPHICS, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, THE E OVERALL ECONOMIC DRIVERS OF WHAT'S, UH, DRIVING BOTH ZONES, IDENTIFYING, UM, REALISTIC, UM, OPPORTUNITIES FOR RESIDENTIAL, COMMERCIAL, UM, RETAIL AND MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT. UM, THEY'LL ALSO TAKE A LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, HOW, UM, YOU KNOW, SPORTS AND RECREATION, PARTICULARLY YOUTH SPORTS AND RECREATION, CAN ENHANCE, UM, THE OVERALL QUALITY AND, AND INCREASE IN LAND VALUE. UM, WE'LL BE TAKING A LOOK. WHAT ALSO BE INCLUDED IS HAVING, UM, INTERVIEWS, UM, AND DISCUSSIONS WITH THE VARIOUS, UH, STAKEHOLDERS IN THE COMMUNITY, UM, REALLY TO CAPTURE AND GAIN, UM, INDUSTRY INSIGHT AND SPECIFIC INSIGHT AND MORE ANECDOTAL INFORMATION, NOT JUST THE, UM, UH, QUANTITATIVE, UM, INFORMATION. UM, THEY'LL ALSO BE MAKING RECOMMENDATIONS AND UPDATES TO, UH, FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION TO THE PROJECT AND FINANCING PLAN TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE IS ALIGNMENT, UM, WITH THE CURRENT MARKET. AND THEN ALSO BE PROVIDING AN, AN [00:15:01] EVALUATION OF THE FISCAL ECONOMIC AND COMMUNITY IMPACTS, UM, REVOLVING AROUND, UM, JOB CREATION REVENUE. AND THEN OVERALL, UM, HOW DOES THAT ALIGN WITH THE CITY'S OVERALL DEVELOPMENT STRATEGY? UH, THEY'RE DELIVERABLE, UM, WILL INCLUDE, UM, A MARK ANALYSIS REPORT FOR YOUR REVIEW REVENUE PROJECTIONS, PROPOSED AMENDMENTS, AS I MENTIONED TO THE PFP AND ALSO THAT, UM, OVERALL ANALYSIS OF THE COMMUNITY INPUT AND THE ANTICIPATED TIMELINE, UM, FOR THIS FROM KICKOFF TO COMPLETION IS APPROXIMATELY SIX MONTHS, UM, WITH A COST NOT TO EXCEED, UM, 79,500 UH, DOLLARS. JUST A QUESTION. HAS THE MDD BEEN CONSULTED ON POSSIBLY SHARING COSTS ON, ON THIS? OR IS THIS SOMETHING THAT'S, THAT THAT COULD BE SOMETHING MR. CHAIRMAN THAT, UH, WE COULD EXPLORE WITH IT, THE MUNICIPAL DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT, BUT, UM, HAS NOT BEEN, UM, UNDER CONSIDERATION. OKAY. IF IT WERE SPECIFIC TO JUST THE TURS, I COULD SEE IT BEING, BUT AS IT'S A COMMUNITY THAT TO ME LOOKS LIKE IT COULD BE, UH, SOMETHING THE MDD MIGHT BE INTERESTED IN AS WELL WITH THAT INFORMATION. SO, ALL RIGHT. ANY FURTHER, ANY FURTHER INFORMATION ON THAT? YEAH. UM, YEAH, FOR THIS, FOR THIS ITEM, UM, WE CAN BRING IT BEFORE THE MUNICIPAL DE DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT TO SEE IF YOU KNOW WHAT, UH, THAT BOARD IS INTERESTED IN PARTICIPATION, UM, SPECIFICALLY FOR THIS. ARE WE SURE THAT'S WHAT WE WANT 'EM TO DO? WELL, THAT'S WHAT DO WE NEED TO GET MDD INVOLVED? WELL, THAT'S JUST SOMETHING TO CONSIDER THAT, UH, MDD COULD SHARE THE COST OF THIS. I MEAN, IT'S GOING TO BE A COMMUNITY, UH, IT'S, IT'S GONNA BE COMMUNITY WIDE. AND IS THAT TO 79,000? YES, THAT'S, THAT'S CORRECT. THE, THE, THE PRIMARY I, I'D SAY, YOU KNOW, GOAL BEHIND THIS, YES, THERE IT IS GOING COMMUNITY THAT SPECIFICALLY FOCUS IN ON THE, ON THE REINVESTMENT ZONES, UM, THAT I'VE BEEN IDENTIFIED AND HOW, YOU KNOW, WE CAN TRIGGER, UM, ADDITIONAL GROWTH AND DEVELOPMENT. OKAY. SO THE MAIN FOCUS WOULD BE THE TS, BUT THE BENEFIT WOULD BE THE COMMUNITY FOR THE COMMUNITY, FOR THE COMMUNITY AS A CREW, BUT THE FOCUS OF WHAT THEY DO WOULD BE ISOLATED IN A SENSE TO RIGHT. AND THAT AREA AND REALLY TO HELP, YOU KNOW, TO HELP, YOU KNOW, THE, THE AUTHORITY AS, AS WELL AS THE, UM, TURS, YOU KNOW, TO, YOU KNOW, REVIEW AND DETERMINE, YOU KNOW, ARE THE PROJECTS, YOU KNOW, THAT, YOU KNOW, WERE DECIDED, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, 25 PLUS YEARS AGO. DOES THAT STILL MAKE SENSE? OR, YOU KNOW, WHAT HAS BEEN MISSED? WHAT HAS CHANGED, UM, SINCE THAT INITIAL, YOU KNOW, INCEPTION, UM, OF THE PFP? THERE HAS BEEN, YOU KNOW, AMENDMENTS, UM, YOU KNOW, THROUGHOUT THE ZONE'S EXISTENCE, BUT, UH, BUT JUST MAKING SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, FROM A MARKET STANDPOINT THAT, YOU KNOW, WE ARE IN ALIGNMENT WITH THE CURRENT CONDITIONS. YEAH. OKAY. SO I ASK YOU A QUESTION, UM, TERRY, SO ARE YOU ASKING FOR US NOT TO TAKE ACTION TO SEE NO, NO. I WAS JUST, I WAS JUST CURIOUS IF MDD HAD BEEN HAD. OKAY. YEAH, NO, THAT WAS NOT A, A FORMAL REQUEST TO OKAY. POSTPONED THIS ON, ON THE, I WAS JUST CURIOUS IF THE MDD HAD BEEN, HAD, UH, HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT THIS. OKAY. NO, I'M GOOD. UH, MR. CHAIRMAN, IF I COULD MAKE A, JUST A FEW REMARKS. I, I AM IN FAVOR OF THIS, THIS CONTRACT. UH, STEVE, IT'S GOOD TO SEE, AGAIN, WE'VE WORKED WITH STEVE SPO AND HIS, UH, COMPANY MANY, MANY TIMES OVER THE YEARS. AND, UH, HIS COMPANY DOES EXCELLENT WORK. THEY DO, THEY DO VERY GOOD ANALYSIS. UM, AND, AND THEIR, THEIR OUTPUT'S ALWAYS VERY, VERY VALUABLE AND HELPFUL, UH, WHENEVER WE'VE USED THEM IN THE PAST. I, I GUESS WHAT THE ONLY THING I WOULD WOULD LIKE TO KNOW A LITTLE BIT IS, UH, HOW SPECIFIC, UM, THEY'RE GOING, THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS ARE GONNA BE, ARE THEY GOING TO RECOMMEND THAT THE CITY GO AFTER, UH, SPECIFIC, UH, SPECIFIC, UH, RETAIL OUTLETS AND DEVELOPMENTS, OR ARE THEY GOING TO BE, IS IT GONNA BE A GENERAL TYPE OF, OF, UH, OF RETAIL AND DEVELOPMENT THAT, THAT WE SHOULD BE LOOKING AT? UM, THE OTHER THING, THERE'S A REFERENCE IN THE BULLET POINTS IN OUR, OUR PACKET TO IDENTIFY POTENTIAL PUBLIC SECTOR PROJECTS THAT MITIGATE NEGATIVE CONDITIONS OR CONSTRAINTS. IS THAT, [00:20:01] IS THAT REFERRING TO INFILL INFILL DEVELOPMENTS WITHIN THE TSS OR IS THAT, UH, WHAT SPECIFICALLY DOES THAT REFER TO? AND STEVE MAY BE ABLE TO ANSWER THAT. I, I DON'T KNOW SURE, SURE. IF YOU'D LIKE ME TO GO AHEAD. SO, UM, THE, TO RESPOND TO THE FIRST QUESTION, UM, IT'S, WE WILL BE, UH, GENERALLY THE LEVEL OF REC OF FINDINGS REGARDING THE MARKET ANALYSIS WILL BE, UH, A BIT MORE GENERAL THAN NAMING, SAY SPECIFIC REALTORS, UH, OR EXCUSE ME, BUSINESSES, UM, RETAIL BUSINESS TYPES. UM, AND WE'RE GONNA BE LOOKING AT DIFFERENT LAND USES AS WELL, NOT JUST RETAIL. UH, THERE'S RESIDENTIAL AND OFFICE USES ALSO UNDER CONSIDERATION, UM, FOR THIS ANALYSIS. SO WE'LL BE MORE LOOKING AT GENERAL LAND USE CATEGORIES. NOW, TO THE EXTENT THAT THERE ARE SPECIFIC, UM, SUBCATEGORIES WITHIN THOSE LAND USES, YOU KNOW, PRODUCT TYPES OR, UM, SECTORS OF RETAIL THAT WE, UH, THAT WE WOULD WANT TO HIGHLIGHT AS PARTICULAR OPPORTUNITIES THAT THE TURS CAN HELP ADDRESS THROUGH, UM, IMPROVEMENTS THAT COULD BE EXECUTED, THEN WE WOULD DEFINITELY WANT TO NOTE THOSE. BUT IT WON'T BE NECESSARILY, UM, NAMING SPECIFIC, YOU KNOW, RETAIL CHAINS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. OKAY. AND, UH, AND YOU KNOW, ULTIMATELY THE OUTPUT IS GENERAL QUANTITIES OF FUTURE DEVELOPMENT OR, UM, TYPES OF IMPROVEMENTS, UH, PRIVATE SECTOR IMPROVEMENTS THAT WOULD BE MADE IN THE ZONES, TRANSLATING THAT, UM, INTO THE UPDATED VALUE PROJECTIONS THAT YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO USE, UM, FOR YOUR, YOUR, THE TURS, UH, REVENUE FORECAST. IN OTHER WORDS, THESE ARE THE EFFECTS THAT THIS PARTICULAR TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT WOULD HAVE ON THE TURS FUNDS. YES. IS THAT FAIR? AND, UH, UH, TO ADDRESS THE SECOND QUESTION, UM, OUR RESEARCH WILL BE LOOKING AT WITHIN THET, UM, WITHIN THE TWO ZONES, ARE THERE PARTICULAR, UM, CHALLENGES OR BARRIERS THAT MAY BE RELATED TO, UH, INFRASTRUCTURE OR MOBILITY OR OTHER FACTORS WHICH COULD BE ADDRESSED? BYT IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE SLOWING DOWN HINDERING, UM, UH, DEVELOPMENT OF VARIOUS TYPES THAT OTHERWISE WOULD BE FEASIBLE FROM A MARKET STANDPOINT THERE? OKAY. UM, OR ARE THERE THINGS THAT THE TURS COULD INVEST IN THAT WOULD, UM, JUST FACILITATE LARGER QUANTITIES OR MORE RAPID DEVELOPMENT OF, OF CERTAIN LAND USES? AND THAT'S WHAT WE WOULD BE POINTING OUT AND MAKING RECOMMENDATIONS ABOUT, YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S, OH, YOU KNOW, IF YOU COULD, UM, PUT SIDEWALKS INCREASE, UH, REBUILD THE STREET HERE OR INCREASE SEWER CAPACITY, NOT THAT WE'RE ENGINEERS, WE WOULDN'T BE GETTING INTO THE WEEDS, BUT IF WE CAN, YOU KNOW, IF IT, IF OUR RESEARCH UNCOVERS LIKE THE, THERE THERE'S A CONSTRAINT ON DEVELOPMENT OR SOMETHING THAT COULD OTHERWISE ACCELERATE DEVELOPMENT, THEN WE WOULD BE NOTING THAT. DO YOU, AND, AND I KNOW THAT YOU'VE TALKED ABOUT STAKEHOLDERS AND TALKING TO LOCAL, UH, LOCAL INDIVIDUALS. DOES THAT EXTEND THEN TO DEVELOPERS THAT WOULD BE WORKING IN OUR REGION WHERE YOU WOULD TALK TO THEM AND SAY, HEY, WHY AREN'T YOU HERE? OR WHAT ARE SOME OF THE, UH, THINGS THAT THE TURS COULD DO TO GET YOU THERE? I MEAN, DO Y'ALL GO THAT, THAT FAR? UH, WE HAVE DONE THAT FOR SOME STUDIES. YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S A, A DEVELOPER, UH, UH, OR YOU KNOW, A, A REAL ESTATE INVESTMENT, UM, INTEREST THAT IS IN THE GENERAL AREA, BUT HAS NOT COME TO A PARTICULAR COMMUNITY, UM, THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT WE, IF WE CAN REACH THEM, WE, WE CAN INQUIRE WITH THEM ABOUT, UM, WHAT IS IT THAT HAS KEPT YOU AWAY, UM, FROM THAT COMMUNITY? UM, I'D SAY THE MAJORITY OF OUR, UM, EFFORT IS ON, UM, JUST FROM SORT OF EASE OF CONDUCTING RESEARCH AND TRYING TO DO IT IN A TIMELY MANNER, YOU KNOW, UM, LEVERAGING CONTEXT THAT, THAT, UH, THAT PEOPLE, EITHER PEOPLE THAT ARE ALREADY ACTIVE IN THE COMMUNITY FROM A REAL ESTATE STANDPOINT OR THAT YOU OTHERWISE, UM, UH, THE TS BOARD AND CITY OFFICIALS AND SO ON, UM, UH, HAVE GOOD CONTACTS WITH, YOU KNOW, AND THEN THEY CAN LEAD US TO OTHER FOLKS AS NECESSARY AS WELL. SO, UH, BUT THOSE KIND OF INTERVIEWS ARE, ARE IMPORTANT TO ROUND OUT JUST WHAT WE GET FROM JUST RAW DATA. OKAY. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, [00:25:01] MR. CHAIR? YES. YES, SIR. IF, IF I MAY, UM, UH, ASK A FOLLOW UP QUESTION, I THINK TO SOME OF, UM, MR. DON CARLOS'S POINTS THERE. UH, MR. ETT, ONE OF THE BIG THINGS THAT WE SEE WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT THE POSSIBILITIES FOR DEVELOPMENT IN TERMS TWO OR THE, UM, ABANDONED, CAPPED OR OTHERWISE NOT IN USE, UM, WELLS WOULD MM-HMM . THE, UM, REMEDIATION OF THE WELLS BE SOMETHING THAT COULD BE LOOKED AT, UM, TO HOW THAT MIGHT AFFECT THE DEVELOP DEVELOPABLE NESS OF CERTAIN TRACKS. GOOD WORD. DEVELOPABILITY, I THINK IS THE WORD. INTERNAL. INTERNAL, SAME THING. UM, I MEAN, WE'RE NOT, WE ARE NOT ENVIRONMENTAL EXPERTS. UH, OUR TEAM, YOU KNOW, IN THE TECHNICAL SENSE. UM, WE WOULDN'T BE GETTING INTO THE WEEDS ON THAT, BUT IT'S MORE OF A GENERAL QUESTION ABOUT, UM, IF REMEDIATION ACTIVITIES CAN BE FUNDED BY THE TURS, WOULD THOSE PARCELS OTHERWISE BE SUITED? IS THERE MARKET DEMAND FOR VARIOUS TYPES OF, OF DEVELOPMENT ON THOSE SITES? AND, UM, WE WILL BE INVESTIGATING THAT, THAT QUESTION. UM, AND YOU KNOW, IN INTERVIEWS, JUST ASKING, YOU KNOW, HEY, IF, IF REMEDIATION CAN BE FUNDED, YOU KNOW, IF, IF, ESPECIALLY IF DEVELOPERS CAN BE REIMBURSED OR THE EXPENSE CAN OTHERWISE BE OFFSET BY THE TURS, UM, YOU KNOW, ARE THESE SITES THAT WOULD BE OF INTEREST FOR SOME KIND OF, OF, UM, PRIVATE INVESTMENT IN VERTICAL IMPROVEMENTS. THANK YOU. I KNOW BRIAN AND I HAVE HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH POTENTIAL DEVELOPERS IN THAT AREA AND, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT WAS CERTAINLY ONE OF THE, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT CAME UP. SO I APPRECIATE THAT. YOU SAID THIS WAS TURF TWO, THE DOWNTOWN AND ALEXANDER SOUTHERN, SOUTHERN NINE. OH YES. MICHAEL, COMPARE, USE FOR THE FIRST OF, UH, OR ARE YOU, UH, SIMULTANEOUSLY, UM, UM, ATTRACTING, UH, INVESTORS, AND IF SO, WHAT IS THE CRITERIA THAT MAKES SURE THAT IT AMENDS, UM, THAT IS NOT A SELECTED, UH, OR WELL KNOWN, UH, INVESTORS IN THE AREA? SO I GUESS IF YOU WANT ME TO REITERATE, IS IT COMPARABLE STUDY OR PLUS IN ADDITION TO ATTRACTING, UH, INVESTORS? N NO, THIS IS PURELY A, A, A STUDY TO JUST EVALUATE GENERAL, UM, DEVELOPMENT, INVEST AN INVESTMENT POTENTIAL BY, YOU KNOW, BY THE MARKET IN GENERAL. THIS WOULD, WE WOULD NOT BE REACHING OUT OR TRYING TO SET UP ANY DEALS OR, UM, ANYTHING LIKE THAT WITH ANY SPECIFIC DEVELOPERS OR INVESTORS. UM, YOU KNOW, WE WOULD WANT TO BE AWARE IF THERE WERE DEVELOPERS POSITIONED TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF PROPERTIES IN THE TURS, UH, BUT WE WOULDN'T BE TRYING TO FACILITATE ANY PARTICULAR DEALS OR INVESTMENTS WITH ANY SPECIFIC PARTIES. SO IT'S JUST REALLY A, JUST A STUDY STUDY. THAT'S WHAT IT AMOUNTS TO. YES. MM-HMM . RIGHT? YEAH. OKAY. I HAVE A QUESTION. YES, MA'AM. AS PART OF THE STUDY, DOES THIS INCLUDE, UM, COMMUNICATING WITH BAYTOWN RESIDENTS TO SEE WHAT RESIDENTS ALSO WANNA SEE IN BAYTOWN? OR IS THERE AN OPPORTUNITY TO INCLUDE THAT FEEDBACK IN THE MARKET REVIEW OR STUDY? UH, AS, AS LONG AS IT DOESN'T, UM, COMPLETELY, WE, WE DON'T WANT TO, UM, UNNECESSARILY SLOW DOWN THE STUDY. WE KNOW THAT PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT IS, YOU KNOW, THAT CAN BE, SCHEDULING WISE CAN BE QUITE AN UNDERTAKING. THAT SAID, UM, IN THE PAST, UH, THROUGH WORK WE DID WITH, I BELIEVE UNDER THE MDD, UM, YOU KNOW, MANY, IT'S QUITE A FEW YEARS AGO NOW, THE LATE TWO THOUSANDS, BUT WE ACTUALLY DID A, UM, A RETAIL SURVEY OF BAYTOWN RESIDENTS, UH, ASKING ABOUT, UH, PARTICULAR, UM, BUSINESS, RETAIL BUSINESS TYPES AND, UM, EVEN EVEN ASKING THEM TO NAME CHAINS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, UH, UH, FOR THE KINDS OF, UH, USES THAT THEY, THEY WANTED TO SEE. AND IN FACT, THAT HELPED ACTUALLY. UM, IT ALSO DOCUMENTED WHERE THEY WERE SPENDING THEIR MONEY AT THE TIME, AND THAT ULTIMATELY HELPED LEAD TO THE LOCATION OF ACADEMY AND, AND OLIVE GARDEN IN, UM, IN BAYTOWN. SO, UH, AS LONG AS IT CAN BE SET UP, IT, THE, THE RESPONSIBILITY [00:30:01] HONESTLY WOULD HAVE TO FALL ON, UM, THE, THE BRA AND THE, AND THE CITY TO REALLY, YOU KNOW, WE COULD ALWAYS DRAFT A SURVEY, BUT THE RESPONSIBILITY WOULD LIKELY NEED TO FALL ON THE, ON THE CITY AND THE BRA TO GET THAT, UM, DEPLOYED AND PUBLICIZED, UM, IN A TIMELY MANNER SO THAT IT COULD BE INCORPORATED INTO, UH, UH, THE STUDY. BRIAN, JUST A QUESTION. I, I KNOW YOU STILL DON'T HAVE A MOTION, BUT THE INFORMATION, THE QUESTION, WOULD THE CITY PROBABLY ALREADY HAVE SOME OF THAT INFORMATION OVER THE LAST FIVE YEARS? KIND OF WHAT THE CITIZENS WOULD LIKE TO SEE COME TO BAYTOWN ALREADY? WE MAY HAVE, UM, SOME OF THAT INFORMATION THROUGH SOME OF THE STRATEGIC PLANNING INITIATIVES AND EFFORTS, UM, THAT HAVE TAKEN PLACE AS, AS WELL AS OUR, OUR COMP COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. UM, BUT I THINK NAMING OF LIKE THE SPECIFIC, UM, RETAIL AS AS, AS STEVE HAS SUGGESTED, MAYBE IN PAST STUDIES, I'M NOT SURE IF THAT SPECIFICITY, UM, HAS BEEN COMPLETED, BUT I DO KNOW THAT FROM A A MORE BROADER PERSPECTIVE, WE DO HAVE SOME OF THAT INFORMATION AVAILABLE. YEAH. UH, I THINK A LOT OF THAT INFORMATION BRIAN WAS SENT PROBABLY IN THE THREE 80 AGREEMENT WITH FIDELIS. THERE'S QUITE A LIST OF, OF TARGETED SPECIFIC RETAILERS IN THAT, IN THAT LIST, IF THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL. YES, SIR. THAT IS A, UM, THAT IS A PRETTY LONG EXHAUSTIVE LIST AND I THINK VERY LONG, UM, AT LEAST THAT SOMETHING THAT THEY WOULD BE WILLING TO SHARE OUT. OH, YEAH. I MEAN, IT'S A CITY AGREEMENT, SO JUST IN A, IN A PREVIOUS LIFE, THE CITY WOULD ASK THOSE TYPE OF QUESTIONS JUST IN THE COMMUNITY JUST TO KIND OF SEE, UM, WHICH IS HOW WE ENDED UP WITH A OLIVE GARDEN AND THOSE PLACES. 'CAUSE THEY KEPT WANTING THAT IN A SUPER HEB. SO THERE'S PROBABLY SOMETHING BETWEEN THE CITY AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT OR THAT WE ALREADY HAVE SOME OF THAT INFORMATION AVAILABLE FROM THE CITIZENS' PERSPECTIVE WITH OLIVE GARDEN, BECAUSE THEN MAYOR DON CARLOS WAS THREATENING THEM . BUT FROM THE CITIZEN'S PERSPECTIVE, I THINK WE'VE HEARD FROM THEM AND I WOULD SAY WITHIN THE LAST FIVE TO 10 YEARS TO KNOW SOME OF THAT ALREADY. YEAH. AND, AND IT'S, IT'S A SLIPPERY SLOPE FOR STAFF. UM, YOU KNOW, PICKING AND CHOOSING, YOU KNOW, TARGET VERSUS WALMART, OLIVE GARDEN VERSUS CHILI'S, THAT SORT OF THING. UM, BUT I DO THINK IF WE'RE LOOKING AT IN GENERAL THOSE TYPES OF ESTABLISHMENTS, WE LOOK AT LAND USE, UH, WE CAN LOOK AT, UM, 'CAUSE WE DID JUST GO THROUGH THE, UH, ULDC PROCESS. UM, ARE THERE ANY BARRIERS THAT EXIST MAYBE, UM, YOU KNOW, UNKNOWINGLY OR UNINTENTIONALLY, UM, TO DEVELOPMENT FOR A CERTAIN TYPE OF, UH, ESTABLISHMENT, YOU KNOW, QUICK SERVE RESTAURANT, YOU KNOW, SIT DOWN RESTAURANT OR, OR WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE. BUT, UM, I DEFINITELY THINK THAT IF, UM, YOU KNOW, IF WE HAVE THE RESOURCES AND WE, YOU KNOW, GET VERY ACTIVE IN RECRUITING, YOU KNOW, KNOWING WHO TO TARGET WOULD, UH, CERTAINLY HELP. SO, YEAH. AND I JUST WANTED TO MAKE ONE COMMENT IF I COULD. UM, SINCE I WAS THERE AT, AT THE TIME, THE, THE LIST OF, I, I THINK WE CALLED IT EXHIBIT B TO THE THREE 80 AGREEMENT, WAS PRIMARILY INTENDED TO DESCRIBE CLASSES OF RETAILERS AND NOT NECESSARILY TARGET PREFERRED RETAILERS. SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE THAT, THAT CLARIFICATION. THERE'S, THERE'S PROBABLY FOR EVERYONE THAT WE MENTIONED, PROBABLY A A HUNDRED THAT FIT THAT PARTICULAR, UH, LEVEL OR QUALITY THAT WE WERE LOOKING FOR ULTIMATELY TO COME INTO THE CENTER. THAT'S RIGHT. THANK, THANK YOU RICK, FOR SHARING THAT. MR. CHAIRMAN, I'LL MOVE THAT WE, UH, APPROVE THE, UH, CDS, UH, YEAH. CDS CONSULTING AGREEMENT AND THE, UH, JOHN STOVER ASSOCIATES AGREEMENT. ALL SECOND. YOU HAVE A MOTION? I HAVE A SECOND. SECOND. I KNOW WE WENT, UH, KIND OF PUT THE CART BEFORE THE HORSE THERE WITH THE MM-HMM . BUT BOB HOSKINS WASN'T HERE TO, UH, ROCK DRILL ORDERS. SO WE, WE, UH, AVOIDED ANY, UH, BREACH OF DECOR ON THERE. I'D JUST LET YOU SLIDE THIS TIME, TARA, I JUST LET YOU SLIDE, BUT IF THERE WERE ANY OTHER, NO FURTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED LIKE SIGN. ALRIGHT, ITEM TWO C IS APPROVED. MR. CHAIR? YES. UM, I'M, I'M SORRY, WERE YOU, OH, GO AHEAD. MOVING ON. YES, SIR. YEAH. UM, SO, UH, THE REPRESENTATIVE FROM EQUIFAX, UH, LET ME KNOW THAT THE, UM, THE CHARGES ARE ON A PER ITEM BASIS. THIS GOES BACK TO ITEM TWO B, TWO B, UM, AND SO THE ACTUAL CALCULATED CHARGES WOULD [00:35:01] BE 5 61 A MONTH, UH, WITH A TOTAL ANNUALLY OF 67, 32. UM, IF YOU WANT TO REVISIT THAT NOW, THAT'S FINE. IF YOU WANT US TO DO IT LATER, THAT'S FINE. WE HAVE TIME. BUT I WANTED TO, UM, MAKE MENTION OF THAT WHILE IT WAS STILL ON EVERYONE'S MIND IN CASE YOU WANTED TO GO BACK OR IF YOU JUST WANNA HANDLE IT AT A FUTURE MEETING. I THINK WE, ANY OBJECTION WE CAN HANDLE IT NOW. OKAY. UM, MS. GOMEZ, YOU WANNA WALK THEM THROUGH THE PROCEDURE THERE? ABSOLUTELY. THE FIRST THING THAT YOU WILL NEED TO DO IS SOMEONE WILL NEED TO MAKE A MOTION TO RECONSIDER THE ITEM AND THEN YOU CALL THAT. AND IF EVERYONE VOTES YES, OR YOU GET A MAJORITY OF THE VOTE, YOU WILL THEN AMEND THE ITEM. AND SO YOU MAKE THE MOTION AGAIN WITH THE AMENDED ITEM AND CALL THE VOTE ON THAT. DOES THE PERSON WHO MADE THE MOTION HAVE TO MAKE THE AMENDMENT? UM, THAT NOT THE FIRST MOTION? NO. BUT THE SECOND MOTION WOULD BE TO MOVE TO AMEND IT AND OFFER IT AS AMENDED. OKAY. OKAY. THE FIRST ONE'S TO RECONSIDER THE ITEM? YEAH. CORRECT. ALSO MOVE THAT WE RECONSIDER THE ITEM. OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION TO RECONSIDER ITEM TWO B SECOND. ALRIGHT, WE HAVE A SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED LIKE SIGNED. ALRIGHT, NOW WE NEED A MOTION AMENDMENT TO AMEND ITEM TWO B TO CONSIDER APPROVING A CONSULTING SERVICES AGREEMENT WITH ETA EQU TAX. SO I'LL MAKE THE, UH, AMENDMENT, DO I NEED TO BE SPECIFIC TO THE 6,007 OR DO I NEED TO SAY NOT TO EXCEED 7,000? WHAT, HOW DO I NEED TO MAKE THIS MOTION? WHAT DO WE WANT TO EXCEED? STICK WITH THE 5 61 A MONTH OR IS THAT, I MEAN, I WOULD SAY ROUNDED UP TO 6,800 OR 7,000? UM, I THINK THAT'D BE, SO MY MOTION IS TO AMEND NOT TO EXCEED 7,000. I'LL SECOND. OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION. SECOND. ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS REGARDING THIS NEW MOTION TO AMEND ITEM TWO B? ALRIGHT, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. A. AYE. AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED LIKE SIGNED. ALRIGHT, ITEM TWO B HAS BEEN APPROVED FOR AN AMENDMENT. SO THANK YOU MR. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU BRIAN. THANK YOU VERY MUCH BRANDON. [d. Consider approving a professional services agreement with Husch Blackwell LLP for legal representation and counsel on economic development and general legal matters, in an amount not to exceed $25,000.00.] ALRIGHT, MOVING ON TO ITEM 2D. CONSIDER APPROVING A PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AGREEMENT WITH BUSH BLACKWELL, LLP FOR LEGAL REPRESENTATION AND COUNSEL. YES, UH, MR. CHAIRMAN. SO THIS IS A, A PROFESSIONAL SERVICE AGREEMENT WITH HUSCH BLACKWELL, UH, PROVIDE LEGAL COUNSEL, UM, FOR THE REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY AND TS. AND, UH, REALLY IT'S IMPORTANT FOR, YOU KNOW, YOU ALL AS THE AUTHORITY TO HAVE, UH, DEDICATED, UH, COUNSEL SOLELY FOCUSING ON, UM, ISSUES. UH, SPECIFICALLY DUE TO THE, I'D SAY THE COMPLEXITY. UM, FOCUSING ON, YOU KNOW, THINKING ABOUT THE PUBLIC FINANCE, THE TAX INCREMENT AGREEMENTS, UM, REIMBURSEMENT AGREEMENTS, AND JUST THE, THE COMPLEX, UH, DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS THAT ARE GONNA BE COMING OR ANTICIPATE THAT ARE GONNA BE CONTINUING TO, TO COME YOUR WAY. UM, SO IT'S GOOD TO HAVE, UM, YOU KNOW, AN ATTORNEY IN A LAW FIRM THAT HAS THAT EXPERIENCE, UM, BROUGHT TO THE TABLE. UM, AND THEN ALSO, UM, YOU KNOW, OUR CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE DOES A, A FABULOUS JOB. UM, BUT THERE'S SCOPE, THEIR SCOPE IS BROAD AND THEY DO ASSIST, UM, ALL OF OUR DEPARTMENTS ON A DAY TO DAY AND DO HAVE TO FACE A WIDE RANGE OF ISSUES. UM, SO JUST HAVING A, A SEPARATE, UH, COUNCIL FOR YOU JUST HELPS ENSURE, UH, THAT YOU JUST HAVE AN INDEPENDENT VOICE, UM, WHEN PRIORITIES AND WHEN YOU HAVE ISSUES OR CHALLENGES, UM, THAT NEED TO BE ADDRESSED, UM, THAT YOU HAVE THAT, UH, EXPERTISE AVAILABLE TO YOU. UM, SO THEIR WORK, UM, WILL COVER BOTH JUST GENERAL, GENERAL MATTERS AND THEN SPECIFIC, SPECIFIC ISSUES, UH, RELATED TO, UM, THE REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY AND THEN THE TS. AND THEN THEIR CONTRACT, UM, AT, AT THIS TIME IS NOT TO EXCEED AMOUNT OF 25,000 UH, DOLLARS. OKAY. WE HAVE ITEM FORCED TO CONSIDER APPROVAL. MOTION. I HAVE A MOTION SECOND. I HAVE A QUESTION. I HAVE A SECOND. ALRIGHT, HAVE A QUESTION. ALRIGHT, YOU HAVE A QUESTION? UM, MY QUESTION IS, WILL THEY BE COVERING, UM, WILL THEY BE LOOKING OVER CONTRACTS OR WILL THEY BE ADVISING BO BOTH YOUR SERVICES WILL BE REQUESTED BY MM-HMM . CORRECT? BAYTOWN, YES. BY THE CITY OF BAYTOWN COUNCIL AS [00:40:01] NEEDED. THEN MR. CHAIRMAN, I JUST HAVE A, A QUICK COMMENT. I, UH, GOT TO WORK WITH SANDY ON THE, UH, FIDELIS TURS AND SHE DID AN EXCELLENT JOB, SANDY, ON BEHALF OF THE CITY. UH, SO I THINK IT'S A, I THINK IT'S A GOOD HIRE GOOD FIRM. OKAY. ALRIGHT. OKAY. ANY, ANY FURTHER COMMENTS, QUESTIONS? ALRIGHT, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. AYE. ALL THOSE POSTS LIKE SIGN. ALL RIGHT. ITEM 2D HAS BEEN APPROVED. ALRIGHT, [a. Consider approving a Tax Increment Reinvestment Zone (TIRZ) Reimbursement Agreement by and among Tax Increment Reinvestment Zone Number One (TIRZ) of the City of Baytown, Texas, the Baytown Redevelopment Authority (BRA), and San Jacinto Retail Associates, LLC for the financing of public infrastructure improvements related to the redevelopment of the San Jacinto Mall property.] MOVING ON TO ITEM THREE. WE'LL HAVE A CONSIDER APPROVING A TAX INCREMENT REINVESTMENT ZONE REIMBURSEMENT AGREEMENT BY AND AMONG REP REINVESTMENT ZONE NUMBER ONE OF CITY OF BAYTOWN BAYTOWN REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY AND SENIOR CENTER RETAIL ASSOCIATES FOR THE FINANCING OF PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS RELATED TO REDEVELOPMENT OF THE SANDY CENTER MALL PROPERTY. ALRIGHT. YEAH, MR. CHAIRMAN, THIS IS, THIS ITEM, UM, ALSO HAS TO BE CONSIDERED, UM, BY THE TS, SO, YEP. OKAY, SO MOVE SECOND. ALRIGHT, SECOND MOTION. HAVE A SECOND. ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS REGARDING THIS MATTER? ALRIGHT, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. AYE. AYE. AND AGAIN, I ABSTAIN. OKAY. I HAVE ABSTENTION BY DIRECTOR DON, CARLOS. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. A. OKAY. ALL THOSE OPPOSED LIKE SIGN. THAT'S RIGHT. YOU GOT IT. ALRIGHT. ITEM THREE A HAS BEEN APPROVED. [a. Consider approving the minutes of the July 29, 2025, Special Joint Meeting of the Baytown Redevelopment Authority and Tax Increment Reinvestment Zone Number One. ] ALRIGHT, MOVING ON TO ITEM FOUR. WE'LL HAVE A JOINT TUS ITEM HERE. CONSIDER APPROVING THE MINUTES OF THE JULY 29TH, 2025. IT SHOULD BE 25 THERE. SPECIAL JOINT MEETING OF THE BAYTOWN RE BILL OF AUTHORITY AND TS NUMBER ONE. I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE. ALRIGHT, WE HAVE A MOTION. SECOND. AND HAVE A SECOND QUICK, VERY QUICK QUESTION, BRIAN, THAT YOU DID MAKE THE CHANGE ON THAT? ABOUT THAT I, YES, WAS NOT INVOLVED IN THE, UH, DISCUSSION IN THAT. ALRIGHT. OKAY. JUST A NOTE THERE, BRIAN ON FOUR A, IT SAYS JULY 29TH, 2026 IN THE MINUTES THAT YOU PRESENTED TO US, SO, OKAY. JUST MAKE SURE IT GETS CORRECTED. WILL DO. THANK YOU. YEAH. ALRIGHT. WE HAVE A CONSIDERED APPROVING THIS. DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE? YOU ALREADY GOT IT. OH, I THINK WE DID, WE DID THAT. OKAY. ALRIGHT, SECOND, ALL FOR THE VOTE. AND THEN ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. A AYE. ALL THOSE YE LIKE SIGNED. OKAY. [a. Receive and discuss reports from staff for items of community interest to include development-related projects, programs, opportunities, and potential items for future meetings.] MOVING ON TO ITEM FIVE. WE'LL NOW RECEIVE AND DISCUSS REPORTS FROM STAFF ON ITEMS OF COMMUNITY INTEREST INCLUDING DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS, PROGRAMS, AND OPPORTUNITIES FOR FUTURE MEETINGS AND NO ACTION. SO I, I, I DO HAVE A ONE, JUST A, A COUPLE ITEMS, UM, JUST AS A, JUST, JUST HOUSEKEEPING, UM, FOR THE BOARD, UM, AT YOUR, YOUR NEXT MEETING, YOU'LL HAVE, UM, YOUR FISCAL YEAR 2026, UM, BUDGET, UM, FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION. UM, AND THEN ALSO, UM, TO START THINKING ABOUT, UM, WHO, WHO WOULD YOU LIKE TO SERVE AS, UM, VICE CHAIR, UH, SECRETARY, AND THEN ASSISTANT SECRETARY. I THINK THAT'S, UM, THAT IS SELECTED AMONG, UM, YOU ALL AS THE BOARD AT THE, UH, UH, UPCOMING CITY COUNCIL MEETING THIS THURSDAY. UM, EXCUSE ME, ON THE 28TH, UH, CITY COUNCIL WILL BE SELECTING, UM, A CHAIR, UM, FOR THE BOARD AND THEN ALSO UPCOMING. WE'LL HAVE, UM, JUST AN ANNUAL REPORT, UM, THAT'LL GO TO THE COMPTROLLER'S OFFICE. AND THEN IF THERE ARE ANY, ANY ITEMS, UM, QUESTIONS, CONCERNS, UH, RELATED TO AGENDA TOPICS THAT YOU WOULD LIKE, UM, TO DISCUSS, UM, YOU KNOW, PLEASE, PLEASE LET US KNOW. AND IF I MAY, I, UM, A QUESTION. GO AHEAD, BRENT. WE TALKED, UM, LAST TIME ABOUT THE BASE VALUES FOR T TWO AND, UM, HOW THEY SEEMED PRETTY HIGH AND THAT, UH, THE ABILITY FOR US TO GET, UM, AN INCREMENT, YOU KNOW, SEEMED TO BE PRETTY FAR AWAY. UM, AS I BELIEVE IT'S COUNSEL'S INTENT TO, UM, APPOINT YOU ALL FOR T TWO AS WELL AT SOME POINT. MM-HMM . UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, UM, SCOTT, UH, AND I, OUR CITY ATTORNEY HAD TALKED ABOUT WAS THE POSSIBILITY OF LOOKING AT SETTING A, UM, A DIFFERENT, UH, BASE VALUE, UH, LOOKING AT THE YEAR AND, UM, HAVING, [00:45:01] GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS TO REVISE THAT TO WHERE, UM, WE WOULDN'T HAVE TO WAIT AS LONG TO CAPTURE, UM, ANY INCREMENT AND, UM, MAYBE HAVE A BETTER, UM, MORE CURRENT, UM, PICTURE FOR WHAT THE, UM, THAT BASE LEVEL IS. SO, UM, THAT CAME UP AND I JUST WANTED TO BRING THAT UP. THAT'LL PROBABLY BE ON AN AGENDA AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE FOR YOU ALL. I JUST A, A QUESTION FOR YOU, BRIAN, MR. MARIN. SO, UM, JUST GOING BACK TO OUR PUBLIC SPEAKER EARLIER, ASKED A FEW QUESTIONS IN THIS SPACE, UM, WHERE WE HAVE REPORTS, FUTURE ITEMS MM-HMM . WOULD THIS BE A PLACE WHERE THERE WOULD BE UPDATES GIVEN? YES. SO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT HOW WOULD THE PUBLIC BE AWARE, THIS WOULD BE THE PLACE WHERE WE COULD BE ABLE, WHEN WE GET TO THE POINT TO WHERE THINGS ARE MOVING AND THERE'S MONEY BEING SPENT OR REIMBURSED MM-HMM . THIS WOULD BE THE PLACE. SO IT WOULD BE AVAILABLE BECAUSE IT'S GONNA BE A PART OF OUR MEETINGS, AND THEN THEY COULD EITHER HAVE IT THROUGH THE MEETING OR THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO GET THE MINUTES OR LISTEN IN LATER. RIGHT. BUT IT WOULD BE PROVIDED HERE. THAT IS CORRECT. THANK YOU, SIR. YOU'RE WELCOME. OKAY. CAN I ASK, HAS IT BEEN DETERMINED HOW THEY CAN ACCESS THE INFORMATION? I KNOW THERE ARE SEVERAL WAYS, BUT HAS IT BEEN DETERMINED? 'CAUSE I REMEMBER THE LADY WANTED TO KNOW, UM, IS IT TOO EARLY SINCE SHE'S STILL HERE? YEAH. MOVING. UM, I'D SAY AT THIS POINT, UH, MOVING, MOVING FORWARD, THE, YOU KNOW, INFORMATION RELATED TO, UH, THE AUTHORITY AND THE TURS. UM, IF IT'S, YOU KNOW, THE, THE PACKETS ARE ALL POSTED, UM, ONLINE ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE. BUT IF THERE'S ANY, YOU KNOW, ADDITIONAL INFORMATION, UM, YOU KNOW, LIKE THE STUDY THAT, UH, CDS, UM, IS ABOUT TO, UM, EMBARK ON, THEN WE WILL MAKE SURE THAT THAT INFORMATION IS ALSO READILY AVAILABLE, UM, YOU KNOW, UNDER THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, UM, WEBPAGE, UH, ON THE CITY SITE. SO THANK YOU. OKAY. ANY FURTHER INFORMATION? OKAY. [6. EXECUTIVE SESSION] AT THIS TIME WE WILL MOVE INTO OUR RECESS IN THE EXECUTIVE SESSION TO DISCUSS ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT NEGOTIATIONS AS PERMITTED BY SECTION 5 51 0.087 OF THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE. IT IS NOW 4:59 PM WE'RE MOVING INTO THE NEXT ROOM. YES. OKAY. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.