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I KNOW SOME OF 'EM STILL A LITTLE SMALL.LEMME LEMME TELL YOU WHAT, WHAT THIS, UH, 11 BY 17 PRINTOUT REPRESENTS.
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STARTING BY THE WAY, SINCE IT'S FOUR 30 AND, AND, AND WE'RE ALL READY TO GO.[2. DISCUSSIONS]
THIS, UH, THIS SHEET AGAIN, I APOLOGIZE, NOT IN COLOR, UH, SHOWS ALL THE PROJECTS AND THE CA THERE'S MARTY.THIS SHEET SHOWS ALL THE, THE, THE PROJECTS BY CATEGORY JUST LIKE WE, WE'VE ALWAYS HAD.
AND IT SHOWS THE DOLLAR AMOUNT.
AND I APOLOGIZE ABOUT NOT COLOR 'CAUSE I DON'T HAVE A BIG COLOR PRINTER.
UH, BUT WHAT'S, WHAT'S OUT TO THE RIGHT ARE JUST NOTES THAT I'VE BEEN USING TO KEEP UP WITH STUFF.
UH, THE RIGHT HAND COLUMN THAT SAYS RANKING WHEN IT SAYS THE ONE THAT REPRESENTS, UH, PROJECTS THAT EVERYONE AGREED TO.
AND, AND I SENT OUT AN EMAIL AND AS BEST I COULD ON RESPONSES, CONFIRMED EVERYTHING WITH A ONE EVERYONE AGREED TO, RIGHT? AND THEN EVERYTHING, UH, AGAIN, THAT RANKING ON THE FAR RIGHT OF THE, OF THE TABLE SHOWS ANYTHING THAT SHOWS A TWO WILL SHOW OUT TO THE RIGHT.
UM, AND, AND ON THE SECOND PAGE, BUT OUT TO THE RIGHT WILL SHOW WHO DIDN'T AGREE.
FOR INSTANCE, THE SIDEWALKS PEDESTRIAN CROSSING SAFETY IMPROVEMENTS, IT HAS A NUMBER TWO.
AND MIKE IS, IS THE ONE WHO DIDN'T AGREE.
UH, AND THEN BELOW THAT EL CHACO YOU CAN SEE THAT, UH, CHRISTINA AND BRIE AND RHONDA DIDN'T AGREE.
AND SO THAT'S FROM THE CONFIRMATION EMAIL I GOT.
'CAUSE I DIDN'T HAVE ALL THAT IN THERE, BUT I HAD, I HAD MOST OF IT.
AND SO EVERYTHING THAT HAS A TWO IS GONNA HAVE AT LEAST ONE PERSON WHO DIDN'T AGREE UP TO PROBABLY THREE ON A ON A COUPLE OF THESE.
SO I'M JUST EXPLAINING WHAT ALL THE NOTES ARE TO THE RIGHT.
THE, UH, RIGHT OFF THE, THE PAGE, IF YOU LOOK AND SEE, OH, AND THE ONE THAT SAID FIVE, I DON'T KNOW WHY I PICKED FIVE.
THOSE ARE THE FOUR PROJECTS THAT WE DID NOT DISCUSS IN A LOT OF DETAIL LAST TIME.
GARTH ROW RECONSTRUCTION, PHASE F AND, UH, SAFE ROUTES TO PARKS AND THE JENKINS MODIFIED SCOPE OF WORK, UH, WHICH WAS, UH, $1.215 MILLION AND ENTRANCE RELOCATION AROUND ABOUT AND PARKING ADDITIONS.
AND THEN ALSO THE UNI DIVE PARK, UH, PROJECT.
SO ON THE ONES THAT HAVE A FIVE, IF YOU LOOK OUT TO THE RIGHT, KIND OF FOLLOW THE LINE OUT THERE, IT'S GONNA SAY YES AND NO.
AND THAT'S AS BEST AS I COULD TELL FROM THE FEEDBACK I GOT FROM YOUR EMAILS.
OKAY? NOW, I ADDED THOSE UP AND THEY DON'T TOTAL EVERYBODY.
SO I EITHER DIDN'T GET DIRECT CONFIRMATION, LIKE I MAY NOT HAVE GOTTEN EXACTLY WHERE PEOPLE ARE, BUT FROM THE INFORMATION I GOT, THAT'S THE BEST I COULD DO.
SO FOR INSTANCE, ON THE GARTH ROAD RECONSTRUCTION PROJECT, UH, THE YES IS YOU CAN SEE LISTED THERE AND THE NOS YOU CAN SEE LISTED THERE.
UM, AND SO THAT'S WHAT THAT INFORMATION IS.
SO YOU'RE ALSO GONNA SEE, UM, AND THESE ARE ASSUMPTIONS, THESE ARE NOT GIVENS, BUT PROPOSITION NUMBERS.
YOU SEE THAT WHERE IT SAYS PROPOSITION NUMBER ONE AND THERE'S 80 MILLION 360 6, THAT IS THE TOTAL AMOUNT OF EVERYTHING THAT IS IN THAT THOROUGHFARE GROUP.
OKAY? SO IF, IF WE WENT FORWARD WITH ALL THOSE FIVE PROJECTS, THAT'S $80 MILLION WORTH OF WORK.
THE NEXT GROUP NEIGHBORHOOD STREETS, YOU CAN SEE IT'S 43 MILLION.
NOW, THAT DOES INCLUDE THE NUMBER TWOS.
THAT INCLUDES ALL THE PROJECTS THAT ARE ONES, AND WHERE AT LEAST ONE OR TWO PEOPLE DIDN'T AGREE.
AND SO THE TOTAL WOULD BE 43 MILLION.
AND SO ON PROPOSITION THREE AGAIN INCLUDES, UH, UH, THE THREE PROJECTS YOU SEE THERE FOR 14 MILLION AND SO ON.
SO ONE OF THE THINGS I WANNA POINT OUT IS, UM, RIGHT CLOSE TO EACH ONE OF THOSE, IT SAYS GROUP TOTAL.
YOU SEE THAT NUMBER UP, UP AT THE FIRST THOROUGHFARE GROUPS.
SEE WHERE IT SAYS GROUP TOTAL RIGHT NEXT TO THE TABLE.
THAT'S THE TOTAL AMOUNT OF ALL THE PROJECTS IN THAT GROUP.
SO OUT OF $133 MILLION OF PROJECTS, WE HAVE AGREED TO THIS POINT OF 80 MILLION OF THAT, OKAY? BECAUSE WE, WE TOOK OUT, UH, THE BAYWAY DRIVE AND WEST BAKER, UH, AND WE HAVE NOT COMPLETELY AGREED ON GARTH ROAD RECONSTRUCTION.
SO IT DOES NOT INCLUDE THAT THAT'S IN THE ONE 33 MILLION, BUT IT'S NOT IN THE 80 MILLION.
80 MILLION IS ONLY ONE AND TWOS.
DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? MM-HMM
EACH ONE OF THOSE GROUPS SHOWS YOU THE SAME THING.
THE NEXT GROUP, THE TOTAL THAT THE CITY GAVE US WAS $48.9 MILLION.
AND OF THAT, WE SO FAR HAVE AGREED ON 43.2 OF THAT GROUP, SAME THING.
GROUP THREE, SAME THING, GROUP FOUR AND GROUP FIVE.
SO WHEN I CALLED THEM PROPOSITIONS,
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I'M JUST ASSUMING, AND THAT'S NOT FIRM YET, THAT THAT'S HOW THE, THE BOND FOLKS WILL BREAK THESE OUT INTO FIVE DIFFERENT PROPOSITIONS FOR THE, THE VOTERS TO BE ABLE TO TAKE A LOOK AT.UM, WE GOT SOME EXTRA COPIES, SORRY, I GIVE YOU SOMETHING TO LOOK AT.
THAT WAY YOU'LL SEE WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING AT.
AND I DIDN'T, I DIDN'T, UH, SO GILBERT, QUICK QUESTION.
THE PROP TOTALS DOESN'T INCLUDE ANYTHING THAT'S SHADED IN THAT GROUPING, RIGHT? THE TOTAL DOESN'T INCLUDE ANYTHING THAT IS SHADED, UH, AND STRUCK OUT, OKAY? RIGHT? UH, FOR INSTANCE, BAYWAY AND WEST BAKER, I TRIED TO STRIKE THOSE OUT.
SO YOU CAN SEE THEY'RE NOT, THEY'RE NOT INCLUDED.
THE, THE OTHER SHADED ONES, FOUR OF 'EM, GARTH ROAD, SAFE ROUTES, JENKINS AND UNI ARE NOT INCLUDED IN THOSE TOTAL NUMBERS.
SO HERE AGAIN, IF YOU GO DOWN TO THE BOTTOM OF THE PAGE AND YOU, YOU LOOK AT UNIDO PARK, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S SHADED BECAUSE I GOT FEEDBACK FROM THE EMAIL THAT I SENT OUT, AND THERE'S THE RESPONSE, RIGHT? THE YESES YOU CAN SEE WERE LISTED AND THE NOS WERE LISTED.
SO THOSE PROJECTS, WE WERE NOT AS CLOSE ON THOSE FOUR PROJECTS AS WE WERE ON ALL THE OTHERS, RIGHT? WHERE WE HAD ONE, TWO, AT MOST THREE WHO DIDN'T AGREE, THOSE FOUR PROJECTS WERE LIKE ACTUALLY THE, THE, UM, THE, THE, THE SHEET I GAVE YOU, THE SMALL SHEET ACTUALLY HAS THAT BREAKDOWN AND IT, AND IT SHOWS THAT, UM, IF YOU LOOK AT 'EM, THE NUMBER TWO PROJECTS THAT ONLY HAD ONE THAT DIDN'T AGREE, AND WE'RE GONNA HIGHLIGHT MARGA BECAUSE SHE LIKES TO BE HIGHLIGHTED.
SO MARGA DIDN'T AGREE WITH FIVE PROJECTS.
THE TOTAL OF THOSE FIVE PROJECTS ARE $35.7 MILLION, OKAY? OF THE NUMBER TWOS.
AND THEN THE OTHER NUMBER TWO PROJECTS, UH, YOU CAN SEE THERE'S THREE OF 'EM, WAYNE GRAY, EL CHACO, AND THE, UH, RUSSELL PARK.
AND YOU CAN SEE WHO DIDN'T AGREE WITH THOSE.
UH, TWO ON WAYNE GRAY, THREE ON EL CHACO, AND THREE ON GINO RUSSELL.
THE REASON I BROKE IT OUT THAT WAY IS TO, SO IF, IF WE WERE GOING BASED ON HOW MANY PEOPLE AGREED, THEN WE WOULD LOOK AT THIS GROUP UP HERE.
EVERYBODY ONE, BUT ONE PERSON AGREED.
THE NEXT GROUP IT WAS A FEW MORE THAT DIDN'T AGREE, RIGHT? IF, IF WE WERE GONNA PRIORITIZE THAT WAY, I'M NOT SAYING THAT'S THE WAY WE DO IT, BUT I'M JUST SAYING BASED ON THE OUTCOME OF OUR DISCUSSION AND WHO SUPPORTED WHAT, THAT'S THE WAY IT WORKS OUT.
BOTH OF US, UH, SAID NO, TELL CHACO.
SO ON EL CHACO, UM, DENISE AND I BOTH SAID NO.
SO ON YOUR EMAIL TO ME, YOU DID NOT SAY THAT.
WELL, YOU SEND IT OUT, I'M SORRY, THE LAST MINUTE AND IT'S KIND OF HARD TO GO BACK LAST MINUTE.
I MEAN, I DIDN'T SEE IT TILL LATER.
ALL RIGHT? AND YOU, I THOUGHT YOU HAD ALL THAT INFORMATION BECAUSE YOU SAID YOU TOOK OFF.
IF WE HAD ANY DIFFERENCE, I DIDN'T.
I ASKED YOU TO TELL ME IF WHAT YOU AGREED ON AND DIDN'T AGREE ON.
BUT I HAD ANOTHER MEETING WITH THAT DAY THAT I DIDN'T ATTEND TO AND IT'S JUST LIKE, OKAY, THE THINGS THAT I PUT ON THERE WAS WHAT I COULD THINK OF EVERY, EVERYBODY GET YOUR PEN OUT AND WRITE DOWN ON EL CHAPTO, ADD MARGA TO EL CHACO AND DENISE.
ALRIGHT, SO WE'VE GOT 'EM, GOT 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 PEOPLE ON ELCHO THAT'LL HELP US.
AGAIN, AS WE START LOOKING AT HOW MANY AGREED ON WHAT AND WHAT DIDN'T, ARE THERE ANY OTHERS THAT YOU DIDN'T, UH, CONFIRM WITH ME ON THE LATE EMAIL I SENT YOU? SOME OF IT HAD TO DO WITH THE WAY THAT YOU'VE WORDED THE EMAIL.
YEAH, I SAID, I SAID, DO YOU AGREE ON ALL THESE THAT WE ALL AGREED ON? AND THEN I SAID, OF ALL THESE PROJECTS, DID YOU DISAGREE WITH ANY OF 'EM? THAT'S WHAT I ASKED.
DID YOU DISAGREE WITH ANY OF THEM? AND THAT'S HOW I CONFIRMED WHO DISAGREED WITH WHICH ONES.
EVERYTHING WAS LAID OUT CLEARLY.
WELL, OKAY, SO, AND THEN IT WAS LIKE, HERE'S THE ONE WE SAID WE WE'RE NOT CONSIDERING AGREE WITH THAT.
AND THEN IT WAS LIKE, HERE'S FOUR, TELL ME WHERE YOU STAND.
SO SORRY, IT WAS A LITTLE CONFUSING.
OKAY, SO WE WILL, WE WILL, UH, MAKE, MAKE NOTES ON YOUR, ON YOUR SHEETS.
SO THERE'S 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 PEOPLE VOTED AGAINST CHAPLAIN.
SO, SO WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO, UH, AGAIN, TO START WITH, IF YOU LOOK AT THIS FIRST PAGE AND YOU LOOK AT THE BOTTOM, AND THIS IS ONLY THE WAY IT PRINTED, IT WASN'T STRATEGIC, BUT AT THE VERY BOTTOM, UH, IN THE MIDDLE IT SAYS BOND 126,341,900.
THAT IS THE AMOUNT OF ALL THE GROUP ONE PROJECTS, RIGHT? THAT EVERYONE AGREED ON.
126 MILLION CORRESPONDING TO THAT IS 89 MILLION OF ADDITIONAL MONEY THAT IS EXPECTED TO COME IN AND SUPPORT THOSE PROJECTS.
SO IF WE'RE 126 MILLION OF BOND, WE GET ANOTHER 89 MILLION OF COUNTY
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OR GRANTS OR WHEREVER IT COMES FROM.AND, AND THOSE ARE, THOSE ARE LISTED ON THE TABLE UP HERE AS WELL, RIGHT? SO THAT'S, THAT'S THE ALL AGREED LIST.
THE NEXT PAGE AT THE VERY TOP IN THE MIDDLE SHOWS THE GROUP TWO.
AND THOSE ARE THE ONES WHERE I SAID ALL BUT ONE OR TWO.
BUT NOW WE GOT ALL ABOUT ONE OR FIVE DEPENDING ON THE PROJECTS.
IT'S ANOTHER ALMOST $53 MILLION WORTH OF WORK.
AND THEN THE GROUP FIVE, THE FOUR THAT WERE THE EMAIL VOTES, UH, TOTAL 18.2.
SO I'M SHOWING YOU IF WE APPROVED EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THESE PROJECTS THAT WE'VE CONSIDERED, IT'S $197 MILLION, RIGHT? SO IT'S NOWHERE CLOSE TO WHERE WE STARTED AT 300 MILLION.
AND THEN IT GOT TWEAKED DOWN THE TOTAL ON ALL THESE PROJECTS THAT, THAT WE WERE GIVEN.
THE TOTAL POSSIBLE ON THE ORIGINAL DOLLARS IS $284 MILLION OUT OF THE 2 84.
ALL THESE THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT REPRESENT $197 MILLION.
NOW WE KNOW THAT'S NOT OUR RECOMMENDATION, RIGHT? BUT, BUT FOR EVERYTHING THAT WE'VE CONSIDERED, INCLUDING THE ONES THAT ALMOST HALF DIDN'T AGREE ON, AGREE ON SOME THINGS, UH, IT CAN'T BE MORE THAN $197 MILLION THAT THAT'S THE MAXIMUM THIS COULD EVER BE IF WE AGREED ON EVERYTHING THAT WAS ON HERE.
SO I JUST KIND OF WANT TO GET US FRAMED UP A LITTLE BIT SO WE'RE NOT TAKING THINKING 300 MILLION FROM THE VERY BEGINNING.
REMEMBER WE STARTED WITH A 300 PLUS MILLION DOLLAR NUMBER.
DO YOU RECALL SOME OF THESE PROJECTS HAVE REDUCED IN SCOPE A LITTLE BIT.
SO THE, AND AND THEN JUST BELOW ALL THIS IS JUST SOME NOTES.
THESE ARE NOTES I TOOK FROM YOUR EMAILS AND I KNOW IT'S HARD TO READ, BUT I TRIED TO CAPTURE WHAT EVERYBODY SAID, WHAT YOU DIDN'T AGREE WITH.
AND ANYWAY, THAT'S JUST FOR ME.
LIKE I, LIKE I TOLD YOU, SHOWS THE NUMBER TWO PROJECTS, ONE DIDN'T AGREE, NUMBER TWO PROJECTS, WHO ELSE DIDN'T AGREE? AND THEN THE NUMBER FIVE PROJECTS ARE THE YES NOS ON THE FOUR THAT WE VOTED ON KIND OF EMAIL WISE.
NOW, WHAT I WANT TO DO IS ASK, IS THIS, IS THIS ACCURATE TO YOU? DO YOU AGREE WITH WHAT ALL THIS SHOWS THAT DO YOU AGREE WITH, DIDN'T AGREE WITH CAN SUPPORT, DON'T SUPPORT FROM YOUR PERSPECTIVE? RIGHT? OKAY.
ALL OF MY NOTES SHOW THAT WE WERE DOING WEST TEXAS AVENUE DRAINAGE, BUT GOT TAKEN OFF WEST TEXAS AVENUE DRAINAGE.
REMEMBER HE SPOKE ON IT, THAT THAT WAS IN THE BACK FIELD BECAUSE HE HAD TO DO WHAT THEY'RE DOING NOW.
I THINK HE, I THINK FRANK EXPLAINED THAT THEY BELIEVE WHAT THEY'RE DOING NOW IS GONNA SOLVE THE PROBLEM THAT THIS PROJECT WOULD HAVE TO SOLVE IF IT DIDN'T WORK.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHY THAT ONE CAME OFF.
SO WE, WE DO WANT TO CONFIRM THE, THE BAYWAY DRIVE.
WE AGREED THAT IT JUST DIDN'T FIT WES BAKER FROM GARTH TO DECKER.
WEST TEXAS DRAINAGE WE JUST TALKED ABOUT.
AND DANINA, THAT'S ONE AGAIN WHERE FRANK EXPLAINED THAT THE FIRST PHASE IS STILL GOING AND TRYING TO FIGURE STUFF OUT.
SO WE AGREED ON THOSE FOUR PROJECTS THAT WE JUST WOULDN'T CONSIDER 'EM AT ALL.
AND EVERYTHING ELSE ON HERE FALLS INTO THOSE THREE CATEGORIES.
WE ALL AGREED SOME DIDN'T AGREE.
AND THE FOUR REMAINING ONES, DO WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT THOSE FOUR REMAINING ONES? BECAUSE TO ME THEY, THEY'VE GOT THERE, THERE'S A LOT MORE NOS THAN ANY OTHER PROJECTS THAT WE'VE HAD.
AND, AND UNLESS SOMEONE FEELS STRONGLY, IT'S KIND OF HARD TO, TO SAY THAT THE, UH, JENKINS PARK, EVEN WITH ITS MODIFIED SCOPE, $1.2 MILLION AND MAYBE YOU DIDN'T KNOW THAT IT'S $1.2 MILLION.
MOVE THE ENTRANCE, ADD A ROUNDABOUT, ADD PARKING, IT'S MODIFIED FROM THE ORIGINAL JENKINS PARK PROJECT AND DOLLAR VALUE.
WAS EVERYONE CLEAR ON THAT WHEN YOU GAVE ME YOUR SUPPORT OR NO, ON JENKINS.
'CAUSE THAT ONE, THAT ONE HAD, UH, A LOT OF FOLKS, MORE FOLKS WHO DIDN'T AGREE THAN AGREE.
SO THAT YOU'VE GOT ME ON THAT ONE TWICE.
WHAT'S THAT? YOU'VE GOT ME ON THAT ONE TWICE.
YES AND NO, IT'S ACTUALLY, YES.
WELL THAT'S WHAT, THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING.
OKAY, SO WE'RE STILL ON JENKINS.
WE HAVE FIVE YESES AND SIX NOS.
WHICH COURT? MY RESPONSE ISN'T NOTED ON NONE OF THEM.
ANYONE OF THE FOUR, MY, MY, MY NAME ISN'T NOTED ON NONE OF THEM EXCEPT FOR THE LIBRARY.
SO I GOT FROM YOU ON YOUR RESPONSE THAT YOU AGREE WITH EVERYTHING WE AGREE WITH, RIGHT? YOU DIDN'T DISAGREE WITH ANY OF THE ONE OR TWO THAT DIDN'T AGREE WITH RIGHT? RIGHT.
AND I DIDN'T GET ANY DISAGREEMENT ON, SO YOU'RE PROBABLY THE ONE I'M MISSING ON THE FOUR SPECIFIC PROJECTS.
DID YOU TELL ME WHERE YOU STOOD ON THOSE? 'CAUSE YOU, I THINK YOU ONLY TOLD ME ABOUT THE LIBRARY.
I ONLY TOLD YOU ABOUT THE LIBRARY BECAUSE THAT'S THE ONE.
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LIBRARY TO GET THAT COMMENT IN.RIGHT? BUT IF YOU DIDN'T TELL ME OF THE FOUR THAT WERE AT THE BOTTOM, THEN I DIDN'T KNOW WHERE TO PUT YOU.
SO YOU CAN TELL ME NOW AND WE'LL WRITE YOU IN IF YOU WANT.
UH, LIKE ON GARTH ROAD RECONSTRUCTION, PHASE F, THAT ONE'S, UH, YEAH, THAT'S A NO ONE, HUH? THAT'S A NO NO.
FOR WHICH ONE DID YOU SAY? GARTH ROAD, PHASE F.
AND SO ON SAFE ROUTES TO PARKS? YEAH, THAT ONE? NO.
AND ON JENKINS, THE MODIFIED VERSION, SO WHEN IT'S GONNA MOVE THE ENTRANCE FROM WHERE IT'S AT NOW, CLOSE TO THE RAILROAD TRACKS, FARTHER SOUTH UHHUH
UH, I'M A NO ON THE GARTH ROAD.
LET ME, LET ME, LET ME, OH, I'M SORRY.
OKAY, BECAUSE I DIDN'T, I DIDN'T GET THAT SPECIFIC FROM YOU EITHER.
ALRIGHT, JOSEPH, ON THE LAST ONE, WHO DID I PARK? TELL ME YES ON THAT ONE.
OKAY, BARBARA, TELL ME, TELL ME WHERE YOU ARE ON GAR ROAD RECONSTRUCTION.
IT GETS OUR NUMBERS A LITTLE BIT CLOSER TO WHERE THEY OUGHT TO BE AND I'M STILL MISSING SOME BECAUSE NOT, NOT EVERYBODY GAVE ME SPECIFIC ON THAT LAST QUESTION.
I ASKED, WHERE DO YOU STAND ON THESE FOUR PROJECTS? AND SO I DID THE BEST I COULD WITH THE INFORMATION I HAD WITHOUT BEATING YOU UP TOO MUCH.
I, I JUST LOOKED ON THE LITTLE SMALL PRINT WHERE YOU HAVE COMMITTEE MEMBERS.
I DIDN'T, I, MINE WAS A NO TO RO CONSTRUCTION PHASE F UH, I SHOULD HAVE YOU AS A NOTE BECAUSE YOU WERE OPPOSED TO ANYTHING THAT IS DESIGN AND ACCURATE.
WHAT DOES STATE IT SAYS SUPPORT.
IF YOU LOOK FRONT, IT'S RIGHT HERE.
LIKE THE VERY LITTLE, THE FIRST LITTLE GRADE OUT ON THE VERY END.
YEAH, LOOK THAT WORD TRIFOCALS THERE.
THIS WHERE DOES SOMETIMES NOW, JUST, JUST TO GET IN ALL FAIRNESS TO THESE LAST, LAST, UH, FOUR PROJECTS, BECAUSE
THAT THAT'S PRETTY MUCH 50 50.
IT, IT'S HARD TO SAY THAT, THAT, YOU KNOW, WE WOULD SPEND TIME TRYING TO FIGURE HOW TO WORK THAT IN.
LET ME ASK A QUESTION IF I REMEMBER.
IF WE DON'T, IF WE DON'T DO IT, THEN WE CAN STILL HAVE IT IN A BOND LATER.
IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT AFFECTED BY ANYTHING.
THAT WAS THE NEXT SECTION BEYOND THE ONES THAT ARE ALREADY INCLUDED HERE.
AND THIS WAS MONEY TO PREPARE FOR THAT NEXT SECTION OF CONSTRUCTION.
NOW I'M GONNA SAY, UH, BASED ON SOME CONVERSATIONS WE'VE HAD THAT THIS GARTH ROAD PROJECT WORK IS PROBABLY TOWARDS THE TAIL END OF THIS BOND CYCLE WE'RE LOOKING AT.
SO, UH, WOULD THAT BE ACCURATE? CD AND E FOG GOES WELL WOULD BE PROBABLY IN YEAR, MAYBE THREE OF THE BOND CYCLE.
UH, SEGMENT F SINCE IT'S DESIGN, IT COULD START EARLIER.
JUST THE DESIGN PIECE COULD START EARLY IN THE BOND PROGRAM, BUT THE CONSTRUCTION WOULD NOT BE READY UNTIL PROBABLY IN THE NEXT BOND CYCLE.
SO THE SCOPE OF THAT GARTH ROAD RECONSTRUCTION IS NOT NEAR AS EXTENSIVE AS THE FIRST PHASE, RIGHT? CORRECT.
BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT WIDENING, YOU'RE RIGHT.
SO, BUT IT DOESN'T MATTER WHERE WE ARE.
WE, WE DON'T HAVE MUCH SUPPORT FOR THAT PROJECT LIKE WE HAVE FOR EVERYTHING ELSE.
SO WE KNOW SOMETHING'S NOT GONNA GET DONE, RIGHT? I MEAN, WE, WE'VE KIND OF KNOWN THAT WE DIDN'T KNOW WHAT, BUT BASED ON WHERE WE ALL STAND ON IT, THAT'S ONE OF THOSE THAT JUST ISN'T MAKING THE CUT, UH, UN UNLESS IT BECOMES A OPTION THAT WE GIVE COUNSEL TO GO BEYOND SOME NUMBER, RIGHT? BECAUSE, 'CAUSE WE AGREE,
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HALF AGREE.SO, ALRIGHT, SAFE ROUTES TO PARKS WE'VE GOT, THERE AGAIN, THERE'S MORE NOS THAN THERE ARE YESES.
UH, I'M A LITTLE SURPRISED ON THAT ONE, BUT IT'S THE SAME.
AND SO THERE'S NO REALLY WAY TO, TO SAY THAT THAT PROJECT NEEDS TO BUMP UP AHEAD OF EVERYTHING ELSE THAT ONLY HAD ONE OR TWO PEOPLE THAT DIDN'T AGREE.
DOES THAT SOUND RIGHT TO Y'ALL? MM-HMM
THE JENKINS MODIFIED SCOPE, AGAIN, IT'S 7 4 6 SNOW.
AGAIN, IT'S ONE OF THOSE THAT, UH, DID, DID JUST DIDN'T GET THE, THE TRACTION THAT, UH, IT MAY HAVE GOTTEN, BUT, UM, KIND OF FALLS IN LIKE THE OTHER ONES.
IT'S KIND OF HALF AND HALF AND DOESN'T REALLY PUSH ITSELF UP.
UH, UNIDO PARK IS ONE THAT'S GOT NINE YESES AND FOUR NOS.
THAT ONE, UH, HAS SOME POTENTIAL TO MOVE UP INTO THE NUMBER TWO CATEGORY, WHICH, WHICH IS UP TO, YOU KNOW, WE GOT ONE UP THERE, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, THAT DIDN'T AGREE.
IF WE'RE USING THAT SAME CRITERIA, THEN THIS ONE WITH FOUR THAT DIDN'T AGREE WOULD MOVE INTO THE NUMBER TWO CATEGORIES, WHICH WE COULD CONSIDER ONCE WE START LOOKING AT HOW WE'RE, WE'RE GONNA PACKAGE UP SOME DOLLAR AMOUNT.
DOES THAT SEEM FAIR TO YOU? OF THE FOUR THAT WE JUST TALKED ABOUT,
SO DOES THAT SOUND REASONABLE TO KEEP IT ALIVE THAT WAY? YES.
WHAT I WOULD SAY IS, GIVEN THAT WE GOT NINE, FOUR AND FOUR OF US IS NOT, I'M WILLING TO GO AHEAD AND SAY I I'LL BE THE 10TH.
WELL THAT, THAT GETS US TO, UH, TEN THREE TEN.
AND, AND AGAIN, IT'S, IT'S ABOUT, IT'S ABOUT THE, UH, OH, THAT MEANS THREE ON THE, ON THE NOSE.
SO AGAIN, THAT, THAT PUTS
SO KEN, YOU'RE GONNA MOVE TO NO OR YES, HE'S GONNA MOVE TO YES, HE'S ALREADY THERE.
SO KEN, KEN WAS, I SHOULD HAD HIM AS NO, KEN YES.
HE'S ALREADY THERE ON THE LIST.
OH NO, YOU WERE NO ON THE OTHER ONE.
ALRIGHT, SO WE'RE, WE'RE BACK TO THE WAY IT WAS.
NO, WHEN HE DIED IS STILL AT NINE, FOUR AND FOUR NOS.
SO WHAT DID HE, HE DIDN'T CHANGE ANYTHING.
HE WAS, NO, THAT'S NOT FROM THE RECORD.
HE'S NOT SWITCHING, GETTING HIS BAG UP.
WE'RE GOING KEEP MOVING FORWARD.
I'M WATCHING THOSE TWO PROJECTS.
SO, SO TO WRAP UP THOSE FOUR THAT WE SORT OF TOOK CARE OF EMAIL, WE, WE AGREED THAT
WHAT WE, JUST CONSISTENT WITH EVERYTHING ELSE WE'VE DONE.
ALRIGHT, NOW, SO WHAT WE NEED TO DO, RIGHT? I DON'T KNOW IF I SHOULD SAY THIS OR NOT SAYING IT.
UH, I SAT DOWN WITH, WITH FRANK AND, AND, AND, AND OTHER FOLKS BEFORE THIS MEETING AND WENT OVER THESE PROJECTS AND THE DOLLAR VALUES JUST ONE MORE TIME, RIGHT? THEY, THEY'VE BEEN WORKING THESE, WE'VE BEEN TWEAKING 'EM, WE, WE'VE SEEN ALL THAT.
UH, AND, AND WHAT WE'VE ALSO SEEN IS THAT THROUGHOUT THIS WHOLE PROCESS, THERE HAVE BEEN SOME THINGS THAT HAVE CHANGED ON THE CITY SIDE OR COUNTY FUNDING SIDE THAT HAVE HELPED US.
LIKE THE LANTERN PARK PROJECT, FOR INSTANCE, WHERE THE COUNTY MONEY WAS VERIFIED AND SO IT REDUCED FROM 10 MILLION TO 6 MILLION, THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO THAT'S WHY THIS TOTAL DOLLAR VALUE PACKAGE HAS COME DOWN FROM OVER 300 SOMETHING MILLION TO UNDER 300 MILLION.
SO I DON'T WANNA COMPLICATE THINGS RIGHT NOW, BUT FRANK NEEDS A LITTLE TIME TO CONFIRM THREE PROJECTS.
OKAY? THREE PROJECTS, STERLING AND DP.
OKAY? THERE, THERE'S A POSSIBILITY THAT THE COST OF THOSE TWO PROJECTS WILL REDUCE SOME DUE TO THE SCOPE CHANGING.
NOT, NOT THE THE DISTANCE, BUT THE SCOPE OF THE WORK.
IF YOU RECALL, THOSE PROJECTS WERE KIND OF PUT IN HERE LIKE AN IN LIKE EVERY OTHER ENGINEER PROJECT WHERE THEY'RE GONNA LOOK AT DRAINAGE AND SEWER AND WATER AND ALL THIS KIND OF STUFF.
AND, AND THEY BELIEVE THAT THAT'S PROBABLY NOT THE BEST WAY TO DO THOSE STREETS.
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LIKE THE OTHER ROAD RECONSTRUCTION PROJECTS WHERE YOU REPAIR OR REPLACE AS NEEDED.THEY DON'T BELIEVE THERE'S A NEED TO ENGINEER THE, UH, THE, THE, THE DRAINAGE PART OF THESE STREETS, RIGHT? THAT BEING THE CASE, IT WOULD REDUCE THE COST OF THOSE TWO PROJECTS.
SOME, SOME COULD BE A COUPLE MILLION DOLLARS, 3 MILLION TOTAL.
WE DON'T KNOW THAT THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE GONNA WORK ON.
SO KIND OF KEEP THAT IN THE BACK OF YOUR MIND.
'CAUSE I DON'T WANNA SURPRISE YOU WITH IT LATER.
IT'S NOT GONNA CHANGE WHAT WE DO TODAY.
WE'RE GONNA USE THE NUMBERS WE HAVE TODAY TO COME UP WITH, WITH, WITH SOMETHING.
THE OTHER ONE IS LANTERN PARK.
AND LANTERN PARK INCLUDES, UH, HALF OF A CIRCLE ROAD AND THE, UH, WHAT IT'S CALLED BAY OAKS HARPER BAY OAKS HARBOR, BAYS HARBOR TWO STREETS.
SO THERE'S A POSSIBILITY THAT SOME FUNDING HAS COME AVAILABLE FOR THAT PROJECT, OKAY? ALONG WITH THE, THE COUNTY'S 4 MILLION OR SO THAT WAS ALLOCATED TO THAT PROJECT.
THERE'S A POSSIBILITY THAT PROJECT WILL COME OFF ALTOGETHER, OKAY? NOW WE DON'T KNOW UNTIL NEXT WEEK WHEN HE GETS CONFIRMATION, BUT I'M, I'M TELLING YOU THAT NOW THAT, THAT THERE'S A CHANCE THAT THREE OF THE PROJECTS THAT WE PUT INTO THE, UH, NUMBER ONE CATEGORY, UH, AND AND IT'S PART OF THIS $126 MILLION COULD, COULD REDUCE, RIGHT? FOR TODAY'S PURPOSES, BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW WE'RE GONNA STICK WITH THE DOLLAR VALUES WE HAVE HERE.
AND IF IT DOES REDUCE SIX, EIGHT, $10 MILLION, WHAT IT IT WILL ALLOW US TO DO IS, IS TO, UH, LET SOME STUFF FLOAT UP, RIGHT? SO LET'S JUST KEEP THAT IN MIND AS WE GO THROUGH THIS.
AND NOT THAT IT'S GONNA GO AWAY, IT'S THERE, BUT THAT'S WHY THIS HAS BEEN KIND OF A CHALLENGE BECAUSE THINGS KEEP, KEEP CHANGING AND THINGS ARE GROWING.
AND SO AT SOME POINT WE'RE GONNA CALL IT AND IT IS WHAT IT IS.
SO WHAT I WANT TO KNOW FROM EVERYBODY HERE IS, UH, STRAIGHT UP, EVERYONE AGREED ON THE PROJECT SHOWN AT A VALUE OF $126 MILLION.
UH, ARE WE FIRM ON THAT? IS THAT, IS THAT A, A FIRM AT THIS POINT IN TIME, IF WE HAD TO CALL IT AND WE ONLY HAD $126 MILLION, THAT'S WHAT WE WOULD SAY WE NEED, WE NEED TO DO FOR THE CITY OF BAYTOWN.
SO WHAT WE GOTTA DO NOW IS SAY WE'VE BEEN GIVEN, UH, THIS $150 MILLION NUMBER, THIS MAGIC NUMBER THAT SAYS EVERYTHING TO $150 MILLION IS NO TAX RATE INCREASE.
RIGHT? ALRIGHT, SO, SO FOR FIVE WEEKS I'VE ASKED FOR A NEW NUMBER AND I HAVEN'T GOTTEN THOSE YET.
LET, LET ME, LET ME GET THERE.
SO I'VE ASKED FOR A MEETING AS WELL WITH, WITH BOND COUNCIL AND THE FINANCE FOLKS AND ALL THAT AND, AND FOLKS BEING OUT OF TOWN THIS WEEK AND I'M OUT OF TOWN NEXT WEEK AND ALL THAT.
JUST GOT SOME, SOME, UH, SOME INFORMATION.
WE LOOKED AT SOME STUFF EARLIER TODAY 'CAUSE WE HAD A LITTLE MEETING AND, UM, THE, THE 9.3% I KNOW IS, IS YOUR CONCERN, RIGHT? IT'S BEEN EXPRESSED.
IT'S BEEN RECEIVED, THEY KNOW YOU'VE BEEN ASKING AND, AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GONNA SIT DOWN AND TWEAK BECAUSE THE ONE THING THAT HASN'T CHANGED EVEN AT A LOWER FIVE, WAS IT FIVE OR 6%? SIX, 6%.
THE, THE ONE 50 IS STILL GOOD.
THE IMPACT IS BEYOND ONE 50, RIGHT? SO IF IT'S A 6% GROWTH, THEN ONE 50 IS STILL A ZERO TAX.
IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT, THAT'S WHAT THEY'VE DONE A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO.
THEY REDID ALL THIS STUFF, BUT WHAT WHAT WE DIDN'T GET WAS THE, BEYOND THE ONE 50, WE ORIGINALLY, AND, AND YOU, YOU WENT BACK AND LOOKED AT THE PRESENTATION WE WERE GIVEN WAY BACK IN THE BEGINNING AND IT SAID UP TO TWO 50 WAS ONE PENNY.
WELL, THAT'S WHAT I'VE BEEN GOING ON.
I MEAN, 2 51 PENNY, BUT THAT'S CHANGED.
TWO 50 EVEN AT THE 9% IS NOT ONE PENNY AND THAT JUST CHANGED.
SO THEY'RE GETTING ALL, THEY'RE GONNA WORK THAT AND GET THOSE NUMBERS, BUT WHAT WE DO HAVE FIRM SO FAR IS THE ONE 50 AT THE REDUCED, UH, FROM NINE TO TO 6%, THE ONE 50 IS STILL A NO TAX RATE INCREASE.
OKAY? AND, AND, AND, AND WE GOT, WE GOT THAT INFORMATION TODAY, BUT I HAVEN'T MET WITH, WITH BOND COUNCIL FOLKS AND ALL THEM TO GO THROUGH AND LOOK AT THEIR ASSUMPTIONS AND THEIR, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE DOING EVERYTHING THAT, THAT PROFESSIONALLY THEY KNOW TO DO.
I I THINK 9% WAS A LITTLE AGGRESSIVE, RIGHT? AND SO THEY, THEY'VE REWORKED THAT.
WE JUST HAVEN'T GOT, WE DON'T HAVE THAT PRESENTATION YET, BUT WE'RE GONNA GET IT.
SO I, I WANT TO, AS BEST I CAN COMFORT YOU TO THIS POINT, THAT ONE 50 FROM WHAT WE'VE
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SEEN AT 6% IS STILL THE NO TAX RATE INCREASE NUMBER.CAN I SAY SOMETHING JUST TO MAKE SURE I'M UNDERSTANDING WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? YES.
SO ON THE PREVIOUS PRESENTATIONS THERE WAS DATA THAT SAID THAT 9% GROWTH, THE CITY OF BAYTOWN THAT WOULD ALLOW THAT GROWTH FOR THEIR, FOR THERE TO BE A BIGGER BOND NUMBER THAT WOULD NOT CAUSE A TAX INCREASE.
THAT NUMBER MAYBE WAS A LITTLE BIT TOO INFLATED.
THE MORE CONSERVATIVE NUMBER IS LIKE A 6% GROWTH THAT BRINGS THAT NUMBER OF A BOND AMOUNT THAT WOULD NOT LEAD TO A TAX INCREASE TO BE ONE 50.
AND ON THOSE TWO, 9.3 TO 6.0 OR WHATEVER, ONE 50 IS STILL THE NUMBER WITHOUT A TAX RATE INCREASE.
OKAY? NOW THE DIFFERENCE IS WHEN YOU GET BEYOND THE ONE 50, IT, THE INCREASE IS GREATER.
I MEAN THE LOWER THE, THE GROWTH RATE, THE HIGHER THE TAX RATE WOULD NEED TO BE TO MAKE UP DIFFERENCE.
THERE'S A LOT OF ASSUMPTIONS AND A LOT OF FORECASTING.
WHAT'S, WHAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT, WHAT'S, WHAT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO, TO CONFIRM, VALIDATE AND, AND STAND ON IT AS BEST AS PROFESSIONALS AND EXPERTS CAN DO, IS TO SAY THIS IS THE NUMBER THAT WILL NOT CREATE A TAX RATE INCREASE.
THAT THAT IS A FUNDAMENTAL BASIC NUMBER WE NEED TO KNOW AND, AND, AND WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO STAND BEHIND, RIGHT? AND EVERYBODY CAN STAND BEHIND IT.
SO THEY'RE GONNA BE A LITTLE CONSERVATIVE BECAUSE WHEN YOU'RE HELD TO THAT, YOU'RE, YOU'RE NOT GONNA BE TIGHT, YOU'RE GONNA BE CONSERVATIVE.
BUT I AGREE THE NINE WAS, WAS, WAS, WAS WAS TOO HIGH AND SIX IS MORE CONSERVATIVE.
RIGHT? AND SO THAT'S WHAT THEY'VE DONE.
THEY'VE BROUGHT THE NUMBER DOWN TO 6% AND THE ONE 50 IS STILL WHAT, WHAT THEY'RE SHOWING ON THEIR TABLES HAVEN'T SAT DOWN FACE TO FACE ASKED QUESTIONS.
BUT WHAT THEY'RE SHOWING ON THE TABLES, ONE 50, $150 MILLION, NO TAX RATE INCREASE.
YOU KNOW WHAT I WAS HOPING I CAME INTO THIS MEETING TODAY THINKING, MAN, IF, IF TWO 50 IS A PENNY AND WE WENT ONE 50 AND THEN, YOU KNOW, NO RATE INCREASE AND THEN IF YOU WANTED TO GO A QUARTER CENT, HERE'S 1 75 AND IF YOU WANTED TO GO A HALF A CENT, 200 MILLION, 200 MILLION, THAT'S MORE THAN WHAT WE'VE, WE'VE COME UP WITH ON THE VALUE OF THE PROJECT WE SUPPORT.
SO FOR A HALF CENT, YOU KNOW, THERE COULD BE AN OPTION TO GO TO 200 MILLION AND DO EVERYTHING WE'VE TALKED ABOUT.
NOW, I'M NOT SAYING THAT PEOPLE WOULD AGREE TO HAVE SENT, BUT IF IT WAS AN OPTION THAT COUNCIL AND THE VOTERS WANTED TO CONSIDER, THEN THEY COULD HAVE THAT OPTION.
WE GET, WE GET WHAT WE NEED AND THEN WE GET ALL THESE OTHER THINGS IF THE VOTERS APPROVE IT.
BUT THAT ONE CENT'S NOT ACCURATE ANYMORE.
SO WHAT'S THE VARIATION THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT? YEAH.
SO WHAT THEY'RE GONNA PROVIDE US IS A, A, A REPORT THAT SAYS ONE 50 IS 0 1 75 WOULD BE THIS AND 200 WOULD BE THAT.
AND ALL THAT IS TO SAY IS OUR RECOMMENDATION'S GONNA BE THIS, BUT CITY COUNCIL, IT'S UP TO YOU.
IF YOU WANNA LOOK AT THESE OTHER PROJECTS, HERE'S WHAT THE TAX IMPACT WOULD BE AND THEN HERE'S WHAT THE NEXT GROUP WOULD LOOK LIKE.
RIGHT? AND SO THAT, THAT'S WHAT WE'LL EVENTUALLY END UP WITH.
UH, IT'S NOT A A, YOU KNOW, UH, DO THIS OR NOTHING.
UH, WE, WE GOTTA GIVE COUNSEL A SOLID RECOMMENDATION THAT WE FEEL WOULD GO OUT AND BE SUCCESSFUL.
BUT WE GOTTA GIVE 'EM SOME OPTIONS TOO AND LET THEM MAKE THE CALL SO WE'RE NOT CUTTING THEM OFF AND, AND SAYING WE DON'T AGREE TO ANYTHING ELSE.
WE OBVIOUSLY AGREED TO A LOT OF PROJECTS HERE.
WE JUST CAN'T AGREE THAT THEY ALL FIT INTO THE ONE 50.
AND I'VE TRIED TO STAY AWAY FROM THAT ONE 50 NUMBER THE WHOLE TIME.
YOU KNOW THAT, RIGHT? YOU KNOW THAT TO GIVE FAIRNESS TO ALL THE PROJECTS.
AND I, I THINK WE'VE, WE'VE GOTTEN THERE, JOHN, I I HAVE A QUESTION.
SO WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ONE 1 CENT INCREASES AND HALF CENT INCREASES, THAT'S BASED ON WHAT? LIKE PER THOUSAND, PER HUNDRED PER PER HUNDRED DOLLARS VALUE ON YOUR TAXABLE PROPERTY.
IT, IT'S THE SAME PENNIES THAT, THAT YOU'RE, YOU'RE BEING TAXED ON RIGHT NOW ON EVERYTHING ELSE.
UH, THE, THE, THE PART OF THE TAX RATE WHEN, WHEN THE CITY SAYS HERE'S OUR TAX RATE, IT'S, IT'S TWO COMPONENTS, RIGHT? MAINTENANCE AND OPERATING AND THEN THERE'S INTEREST IN SINKING.
AND WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE IS WHAT'S EFFECTIVELY THE INTEREST IN SINKING, WHICH IS THE DEBT SIDE OF THE TAX RATE.
SO IN ALL, IN ALL FAIRNESS, WE TALKED ABOUT THIS IN THE BEGINNING, JUST BECAUSE THERE'S NO TAX RATE INCREASE DOESN'T MEAN IT'S NOT A TAX INCREASE.
BECAUSE IF WE DIDN'T GO AND, AND, AND INCUR THIS DEBT AS DEBTS PAID OFF, THAT INTEREST IN SEEKING PAYMENT GOES DOWN, WHICH MEANS THE TAX RATE GOES DOWN WITH IT, RIGHT? YOU, THEY, THEY HAVE TO CHARGE A TAX RATE TO MEET THE DEBT OBLIGATION PAYMENT PRINCIPLE AND INTEREST.
AND IF THAT HAS TO GO UP FOR SOME REASON, THEN THEY GOTTA REDUCE ON THE OTHER SIDE TO KEEP, TO
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MAINTAIN THE SAME TAX RATE.SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE PART THAT'S DEBT AND, AND WHEN WE WERE GIVEN THE, I DON'T REMEMBER HOW MANY MILLIONS OF DOLLARS A YEAR THEY PAY IN PRINCIPAL INTEREST PAYMENTS.
BUT IF YOU'RE MAKING THAT SAME PAYMENT, IT'S LIKE YOU BOUGHT A CAR AND YOU'RE PAYING $800 A MONTH AND YOU GET IT, YOU GET IT PAID OFF, BUT YOU BUY ANOTHER CAR AND YOU KEEP PAYING $800 A MONTH, YOU KNOW, YOU KEEP PAYING 800 BUT YOU GET A NEW CAR, THIS SAME THING.
WE KEEP THE TAX RATE THE SAME AND WE'RE PAYING OFF OLD DEBT, BUT NOW WE'RE GETTING NEW DEBT AND WE'RE STILL PAYING THE SAME MONTHLY PAYMENT.
AND THAT'S THE WAY THIS IS CALCULATED.
THAT'S WHERE THERE'S NO RATE INCREASE BECAUSE THERE'S ENOUGH PAYMENT MONEY TO KEEP MAKING PAYMENTS WITH THE ADDED DEBT, BUT YOU ADD MORE THAN $150 MILLION AND NOW YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO PAY A LITTLE BIT MORE MONEY IN PRINCIPLE AND INTEREST AND THE TAX RATE'S GONNA HAVE TO GO UP.
SO THAT'S AS BEST AS I CAN EXPLAIN IT, UH, TO YOU TODAY.
BUT WE'RE GONNA GET THE INCREMENTS OF ONE 50 NO TAX RATE INCREASE, 1 75, WHAT THAT DOES AND 200 WHAT THAT DOES.
AND 200 IS THE MAX WE COULD EVER EVEN PROPOSE ANYTHING 'CAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THAT MANY DOLLARS WORTH OF PROJECTS.
OKAY? SO ONE OF THE THINGS WE, WE, WE WE'VE ALREADY AGREED ON IS WE'RE, WE'RE AGREEING ON $126 BILLION OF, OF PROJECTS.
WHAT I WANNA SHOW YOU IS THE, THE SMALL PAGE THAT SHOWS, UH, ONE PERSON DIDN'T AGREE ALL VALID IS ABOUT $35.7 MILLION WORTH OF WORK.
IF WE TOOK THIS AND SAID, WELL, WE ALL AGREED, RIGHT? MOST OF US AGREED TO THAT.
THEY'RE ALMOST LIKE THE OTHER GROUP THAT WE DISAGREED TO, BUT ONE PERSON DIDN'T AGREE.
WE NEED TO KNOW WHO DIDN'T AGREE.
I TOLD YOU THAT WAS FAIR ALL ALONG.
YOU DON'T YOU COUNT, WE'RE NOT DISCOUNTING YOU AND SAY TOUGH, YOU'RE, YOU'RE OUTVOTED.
WHAT I'M LOOKING AT HERE IS IF WE WERE LOOKING AT $150 MILLION, IT WOULD MAKE SENSE TO ME.
WE WOULD START WITH THESE PROJECTS TO FIGURE OUT WHERE THE REST OF THE, THE MONEY, THE ABOUT WHAT? 14 MILLION OR NO, NO, 20, 24 MILLION WOULD COME FROM TO GET TO ONE 50.
DOES, DOES EVERYONE AGREE WITH THAT OR THINK WE SHOULD NOT DO IT? WHAT PROJECTS ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? THE ONE ON THIS PAGE? THIS THIS SINGLE PAGE.
SO THE $126 MILLION FIGURE THAT YOU CAME UP WITH DOESN'T INCLUDE THE PROJECTS ON? NO, NO.
IT ONLY INCLUDES THE ONES THAT EVERYONE AGREED ON.
THEY'RE THE ONES THAT HAVE A NUMBER ONE ON THE, ON THE, THE TABLE, RIGHT? ALL THE ONES THAT SAID, NUMBER ONE, EVERYONE AGREES $126 MILLION.
SO IF, IF WE WERE TRYING TO GET TO $150 MILLION RECOMMENDATION, WE HAVE A LITTLE UNDER $14 MILLION OF 24, 20 $4 MILLION.
$24 MILLION OF PROJECT PEOPLE ADD TO GET TO THE ONE 50 NUMBER.
YOU KNOW, AND, AND THESE WOULD BE THE LIST OF PROJECTS WE'D LOOK AT BECAUSE WE ALL AGREED TO 'EM EXCEPT ONE.
AND AGAIN, THAT'S, IT'S NOTED.
I KNOW, BUT I'M JUST SAYING YOU KEEP POINTING AT ME.
BUT THE THING IS NO, NO, NO, NO.
THESE, THESE ARE THE PROJECTS THAT WE JUST HAD ONE THAT DIDN'T AGREE MIKE BEARD DIDN'T AGREE ON SOME OTHERS, BUT SO DID OTHERS.
I'M JUST SAYING FROM THE INFORMATION I HAVE, AND I'M NOT, I'M NOT CALLING YOU OUT.
IT DOESN'T MATTER WHOSE NAME IS THERE, RIGHT? IT JUST THAT WE HAD SOMEBODY THAT DIDN'T AGREE.
WHAT I GOT FROM YOU CONFIRMATION WAS YOU DIDN'T AGREE WITH THESE, BUT NO ONE ELSE TOLD ME THEY DIDN'T AGREE WITH THOSE.
SO I AGREE WITH, WE WOULD SAY, ALL OF US HERE, THE MAJORITY THINK THOSE FIVE PROJECTS ARE WORTH LOOKING AT.
SO IF WE WERE TRYING TO COME UP WITH 20, 24, $4 MILLION, WHAT WOULD WE PICK? SIDEWALK.
A, DA UNLESS YOU WANT PENALTIES? FIRE STATION.
SO, I MEAN, THIS, THIS IS WHERE WE START SAYING WE GOTTA, WE GOTTA, YOU KNOW, PICK FROM EVERYBODY.
I'M, I'M NOT SAYING MARGO WOULDN'T AGREE TO WHAT WE PICKED ON, UH, THIS TIME, BUT, UH, OF THOSE FIVE PROJECTS, WHAT DO WE THINK WE NEED TO WHAT, WHAT FIVE PROJECTS ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? IT'S ON, ON THE VERY FIRST TOP, THE TOP OF THAT LIST.
THE ONES THAT EVERYONE AGREED ON.
UNLESS YOU DIDN'T AGREE WITH ONE OF THOSE.
'CAUSE I DIDN'T HAVE YOU NOT AGREEING WITH THOSE.
I HAD YOUR NOT AGREEING MIKE'S ON THAT.
NO, I HAD YOU NOT AGREEING WITH, UH, SIDEWALK.
THE VERY FIRST GUY, HIS NAME ON THERE.
YOU DIDN'T AGREE WITH THAT ONE? YEAH, HE SAID NO.
UNLESS WE HAVE A DIFFERENTIATE THAN YOU DO.
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LOOKS LIKE MARGA.I I THOUGHT THEY WERE ALL YOU.
MIKE DIDN'T AGREE WITH SIDEWALKS.
MARGARET DIDN'T AGREE WITH THE OTHER COURT.
I'M SORRY I ACCUSED YOU OF NOT AGREEING ON ALL OF THEM.
ALRIGHT, SO IN EITHER CASE WE HAVE ONE PERSON WHO DIDN'T AGREE ON EITHER OF THOSE.
SO AGAIN, IF WE WERE GONNA PRIORITIZE THESE, HOW WOULD WE DO IT? WHAT WOULD BE THE FIRST ONE WE WANT? SAY LOOK, WE, WE GOTTA CONSIDER THAT FIRE, FIRE, FIRE.
ALRIGHT, LET'S GOT A FIRE STATION AND AADA A STATION.
SHOULD WE JUST GO, YOU KNOW, ON THE A DA YOU WOULD GET PENALIZED IF YOU DON'T DO IT.
UH, JUST SHOW ME BECAUSE WE'RE AT THE POINT NOW WHERE WE NEED TO KNOW.
BY, BY SHOW OF HANDS ON THE, ON THE, UH, FIRE STATION.
WHERE ARE WE? WHO'S, WHO'S IN FAVOR OF THE FIRE STATION? 1, 2, 7.
SO THAT MEANS SEVEN AND THREE, RIGHT? SHOW ME ON THE A DA PEDESTRIAN CROSSING WHERE WE ARE.
IS THAT A YES OR A NO? UH, YES.
WHO, WHO'S IN FAVOR OF A DA PEDESTRIAN CROSSING.
DID YOU RAISE YOUR HAND, MIKE? NO,
SO LOOK, WHEN, WHEN YOU MAKE A COMMENT THAT IF WE DON'T DO IT, WE'RE GONNA GET FINED.
WELL STATE, YOU'RE ASSUMING THAT IT WON'T HAPPEN.
OKAY? YOU'RE ASSUMING THAT IT WON'T HAPPEN.
MY ASSUMPTION IS, IS THAT IF THERE'S A FINE INVOLVED, THE CITY WILL FIGURE OUT A WAY TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN.
AND I THINK, I THINK YOU MADE THAT POINT WHEN WE HAD THE CONVERSATION.
I'M JUST TELLING YOUR ASSUMPTIONS WRONG AND MARGARET MADE HER ASSUMPTION DURING THE CONVERSATION AS WELL.
'CAUSE YOURS IS AN ASSUMPTION ALSO.
SO WE, WE ARE CLEAR ON THOSE ASSUMPTIONS.
SO, I'M SORRY, I GOT DISTRACTED.
PEDESTRIAN, RAISE YOUR HAND IF YOU'RE IN FAVOR OF IT.
OF WHICH SIDEWALK? I, I GOTTA GO BACK 'CAUSE I, I I GOT CONFUSED ON SIDEWALK.
A DA PEDESTRIAN WHO, WHO'S IN FAVOR? RAISE YOUR HAND.
ADD ME TO THE FIRE STATION PLEASE.
OKAY, NOW I'M JUST, I KNOW I, I'VE GOTTA, I'LL GET THERE.
AND THEN TWO NOS, RIGHT? WAIT A MINUTE.
SHOULD GET YOUR NAME IN THESE.
I I I'M NOT, I HAVEN'T BEEN INCLUDING MYSELF IN IN THESE.
UM, DO I DO IT AGAIN? YOU'RE NOT COUNTING YOURSELF.
NO, IIII KNOW WHERE I STAND AND I'M, IT'S NOT GONNA CHANGE ANYTHING.
RIGHT? BUT, BUT WE HAD 14 PEOPLE VOTE.
HOW MANY ARE HERE? ONE, TWO, ONLY 11.
HOW DID I GET 10 AND FOUR ON THE FIRST ONE? SO IT'S 10 AND ONE.
I WAS IT 10 AND TWO? YEAH, IT WAS 10 AND TWO ONLY.
Y'ALL ARE, Y'ALL ARE MAKING THIS HARD, MAN.
DO YOU WANT ME TO COUNT FOR YOU SIDEWALKS? RAISE YOUR HAND PLEASE.
ALRIGHT, LET'S, UH, WHO WANTS TO RECOMMEND SOMETHING ELSE? WHAT IS IT? I'M SORRY.
THE, THE BROOK ROLLING BROOK GARTH DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENTS.
RAISE YOUR HAND IF YOU'RE IN FAVOR OF ROLLING BROOK GARTH DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENTS.
AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO VOTE THE WAY YOU DID TO BEGIN WITH.
YOU CAN VOTE ON WHERE WE ARE TODAY ON WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO, RIGHT? I DRIVE BY THAT ROAD.
BUT NOT BEFORE THE FIRE SECTION.
I, I'M NEUTRAL ON THAT WHOLE 6, 7, 8.
LIKE I SAID BEFORE, I WON'T LOSE ANY SLEEP OVER.
I'M, I'M GONNA COUNT YOU THEN.
SO IT'S EIGHT TO TWO OR THREE.
IT'S GONNA COUNT AS A, HE'S OKAY WITH IT.
IS THAT RIGHT?
THAT'LL MAKE YEAH, IT SEEMS LIKE THE, THE, THE, THAT'S PROBABLY THE BETTER WAY TO DO IT.
I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE GET WE'RE CLEAR.
SO WE'RE BAYTOWN NATURE CENTER EDUCATION FACILITY, BAYTOWN NATURE CENTER EDUCATION FACILITY.
LET'S MOVE THE WHAT WORKS CENTER MOVING THE PRIORITIZE THAT OVER THE PARK WHO IS NOT IN FAVOR OF THE EDUCATION.
THE WETLANDS EDUCATION CENTER BUILDING $13 MILLION.
WHO IS NOT IN FAVOR? ONE, TWO,
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RIGHT? AND OUR MONDAY IS NOW USED US, OKAY.BAYTOWN NATURE CENTER, WHO IS NOT IN FAVOR OF THE BAYTOWN NATURE CENTER WORK.
IF WE ONLY HAVE 24
WHO'S NOT IN FAVOR OF THE BAYTOWN NATURE CENTER? ONE, TWO.
OKAY, SO, SO WHAT WE'VE ALL CONFIRMED IS WE BELIEVE ALL THESE PROJECTS NEED TO BE ADDED.
SO WE VALIDATED THEM, THEY'RE GOOD.
NOW, IF WE WANT TO GET TO A ONE 50 NUMBER AND WE HAD TO PICK WHAT $24 BILLION WOULD WE PICK OUT OF THESE FIVE PROJECTS, WHAT WOULD THEY BE? DOESN'T MEAN THE REST GO AWAY.
THEY'RE JUST GONNA MOVE INTO THAT VERY NEXT GROUP OF RIGHT PAST ONE 50.
SO THE FIRST THREE OF THEM, THOSE ARE THE FOUR.
SO THE FIRST THREE TOTAL UP 6, 7, 8, 8 0.2, 8, 7, 5, AND 8.2.
AND THE NATURE CENTER WOULD GET US REAL CLOSE OR THE, OR THE WETLAND CENTER WOULD GET US REAL CLOSE.
IS THE, DO WE AGREE ON THE FIRST THREE SIDEWALKS? ROLLING BROOK AND FIRE STATION? NO, NO, NO.
OH, SO DO WE AGREE ON THE WETLAND CENTER? YES.
GETTING AS WHERE AGREE OR, WELL, NOT SURE WHAT YOU'RE ASKING.
WHAT I'M ASKING IS SOMETHING'S NOT GONNA GET ON THE LIST, RIGHT? RIGHT.
SO I'M TRYING TO COME UP WITH WHAT, WHAT IS GOING TO GET, WHAT ARE WE GONNA DO FOR 20? YOU'RE TRYING TO GET TO 150 MILLION.
RIGHT? I THINK 1 52 OR WHATEVER IN THEIRS IS GONNA WORK.
BUT WE WE'RE NOT GONNA, WE'RE NOT GONNA CUT DOLLARS OUT OF STUFF.
WHAT CAN WE X OUT? WHAT CAN WE NEED TO X OUT $11 MILLION OF THIS GROUP RIGHT HERE? YES.
IF YOU DO THE FIRST FOUR, YOU'RE JUST UNDER THE LIMIT.
SO THAT'S EVERYTHING BUT THE NATURE CENTER CORRECT.
GETS OKAY, I CAN DO THAT INTO THE ONE 50.
EVERYONE GOOD WITH THE FIRST FOUR GETS US TO HOW MUCH? ONE 50.
BUT WE CAN'T ADD THE OTHER ONE 'CAUSE THEN IT GETS US OVER.
SO THAT'S 20, THAT'S $21 MILLION.
THE PROJECT'S 21 7 50 MM-HMM
SO THAT, THAT GETS US CLOSE TO THE ONE 50.
SO WE'RE WOULD, WOULD WE BE SOLID ON THOSE? YES.
AND, AND THAT WOULD ADD IT TO THE OTHER ONE.
WE'D SAY OUR SOLID ONE 50 RECOMMENDATION OR ONE 50 AND A LITTLE UNDER WOULD BE THOSE PROJECTS.
WE, THAT'S, THAT'S A MAJOR, MAJOR ACCOMPLISHMENT TO IDENTIFY CLOSE TO $150 MILLION WORTH OF NEEDED PROJECTS IN, IN OUR COMMUNITY THAT WE BELIEVE, UH, WOULD NOT HAVE A TAX RATE IMPACT TO OUR, OUR CITIZENS.
SO DO WE WANT TO ADD ANOTHER GROUP, UH, INCREMENTALLY DO WE WANT TO TAKE EVERYTHING THAT'S LEFT AND PUT IT INTO A SECOND GROUP? WE COULD RECOMMEND IF THERE WERE FUNDS AVAILABLE, RIGHT? SO WOULD WE TAKE THE NATURE CENTER AND START WITH THAT? I WOULD SUGGEST DWAYNE, BECAUSE IT'S 5 MILLION COMPARED TO 14.
AND ACCORDING TO WHAT WE WERE TOLD, IT'S GOING TO BRING IN PEOPLE AND REVENUE AND TAX FOR THE CITY.
WHICH PROJECT THE WAY GRAY SPORTS COMPLEX, I WOULD SAY WE LOOK AT ANOTHER 20, $25 MILLION GROUP OF PROJECTS TO GET CLOSE TO THE 1 75 NUMBER 1 71 75.
AND AND WHAT WOULD THAT LOOK LIKE OUT OF THESE REMAINING PROJECTS? SO IF, IF UNI DAD CAME TO FRUITION, THINK ABOUT THIS.
YOU'RE BASICALLY PUTTING A MINI REGIONAL PARK ON THE SIDE OF TOWN THAT DOESN'T HAVE THAT KIND OF PARK.
OKAY? 'CAUSE THE REGIONAL PARK WE'VE GOT IS WAY ON THE OTHER SIDE OF TOWN BECAUSE THAT'S ADDING A FOOT, THE FOOTBALL FIELD AND, AND THE SKATEBOARD STUFF.
AND SO YOU'RE BASICALLY PUTTING A, A MINI REGIONAL PARK OVER THERE IN THAT AREA, WHICH IS A SIGNIFICANT BE TO DO.
SO JUST MAKE THAT CONSIDERATION THAT THAT'S A GOOD CONSIDERATION.
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UH, UN UNIDA PARK WOULD BE A GREAT ADDITION TO THE CITY AS A WHOLE, NOT JUST THAT AREA, BUT TO THE CITY AS A WHOLE WITH, BECAUSE IT BRINGS A NEW COMPLEX TO BAYTOWN, RIGHT? IT'S NOT, UH, IT'S NOT SOMETHING DUPLICATED SOMEWHERE ELSE.IF WE WERE LOOKING AT, UM, ANOTHER SAY $25 MILLION WORTH OF PROJECTS.
I HAVE ANOTHER CONSIDERATION REAL QUICK.
OKAY? AND IT'S BASED ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE, SO IT'S NOT MY NUMBERS, BUT CURRENTLY JUST RECENTLY, THE CITY COUNCIL HAS APPROVED 150 MILLION IN CO BONDS.
THERE IS A CURRENT DEBT OF $328 MILLION WITH THE BUDGET OF 250.
JUST A LITTLE
I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO WITH THAT BECAUSE, WELL, ALL I CAN GO WITH IS JUST TO CLARIFY, THE CO BONDS THAT THEY JUST PASSED ARE SELF-FUNDED THROUGH WATER AND SEW RATES.
SO I'VE GOT A LIST OF ALL THE CO BONDS.
I'M ASKING FOR GEO BOND DEBT WHEN IT WAS NOT INCREASING, WHEN IT WAS AUTHORIZED AND CO BOND DEBT WHEN IT WAS AUTHORIZED AND WHAT IT'S FOR, BECAUSE THERE ARE CO BOND DEBTS THAT ARE WATER SEWER RELATED THAT ARE LIKE REVENUE BONDS.
THEY, THEY PAY FOR THEMSELVES.
IT STILL DOESN'T WIPE OUT THE FACT THAT WE GOT A CURRENT DEBT OF $320 MILLION WITH THE BUDGET OF 250 PER THE CITY'S WEBSITE.
WE'LL, UH, AGAIN, WE'RE DEALING WITH THE INTEREST IN JUST THROW IT OUT THERE, INTEREST IN SINKING PART, AND I AM, I AM GETTING THE, THE GEO BOND DEBT, WHICH IS WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE.
I UNDERSTAND, RIGHT? THE BALANCE ON THAT.
WELL, I HAVEN'T CONFIRMED IT, BUT I'VE GOT NUMBERS BECAUSE AGAIN, GEO BOND DEBT CAN ONLY GO BACK TO 2007 OR, OR DEBT INCURRED FROM THAT UP TO 2012.
SO YOU WERE TALKING TO NATURE CENT, THE, SO LET'S LOOK AT WHAT WE WOULD WAYNE, THE NATURE CENTER AND WHAT ELSE? WELL, THERE'S THE WAYNE GRAY SPORTS COMPLEX.
UH, LET'S TALK ABOUT EL CHACO A MINUTE.
WHERE, WHERE ARE WE ON EL CHACO? WE GOT MORE PEOPLE THAT DIDN'T AGREE WITH THAT.
TH THROUGHOUT THIS WHOLE PROCESS, WE GONNA WIPE THAT OUT.
UM, BECAUSE THERE'S 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 AGAINST IT.
I ACTUALLY VOTED NO ON THAT ONE, BUT WHEN I REVIEWED THE EMAIL THAT I SENT YOU, I AGREED TO IT IN THE EMAIL THAT I SENT YOU.
SO WE GOT ANOTHER NO ON EL CHACO.
YEAH, SO THAT'S SIX AGAINST NO SIX NOS.
SO LET, LET'S, LET'S DO A LITTLE, LET'S, LET'S COME AT IT ANOTHER WAY REAL QUICK.
IS EL CHACO A PROJECT WE BELIEVE JUST NEEDS TO KIND OF, WE WALK THE, THE IMMEDIATE LIST RIGHT NOW, NOT LIKE GO AWAY COMPLETELY, BUT JUST LET'S GET IT OUT OF THE ROUND THAT WE'RE TRYING TO, TO, TO, TO GET TO RIGHT NOW.
SO LET'S, LET'S TAKE THIS ONE.
WHY, WHY IS CHARCO LIKE WHAT? BECAUSE I'VE ASKED PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD AND THEY SAID THERE'S NO PROBLEM WITH THAT.
I MEAN THEY, I THINK THE CITY SAID THERE WAS INNER OR SEWER OR SOMETHING.
MAYBE TO KEEP IT UP, BUT WHEN YOU DRIVE IT, AT LEAST FOR MY NAKED EYE, OKAY.
AND THE BOTTOM LINE IS THERE, THEY'RE GONNA BE PROJECT DON'T MAKE LISTS THAT ARE NEEDED, RIGHT? YEAH.
I MEAN, WHETHER THE NEED IS URGENT NOW OR IT'S GONNA BE THERE IN SIX TO EIGHT YEARS, WHICH IS WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO AVOID.
SO IT, SO LET, LET'S, LET'S LOOK AT WHAT WE HAVE LEFT OF THIS LIST.
WE'VE GOT WAYNE GRAY SPORTS COMPLEX, THE, UH, GENE LORETTA RUSSELL PARK.
THOSE TWO ARE A $10 MILLION TICKET FOR TWO OF 'EM TOGETHER.
UH, AND IF WE LOOKED AT UNIDAD PARK, THAT'S ANOTHER, UH, NINE, THAT'S $19 MILLION.
UH, IF, IF WE LOOKED AT THOSE THREE, I'M NOT TELLING YOU TO DO IT, BUT I'M JUST SAYING THAT'S 19 MILLION AND, AND A LOT OF PARK RELATED, THEY WOULD EVENTUALLY, THEY WOULD END UP IN THEIR OWN PROPOSITION, RIGHT? MM-HMM
GILBERT, WITH THE, FOR THE NEXT PHASE, THOSE ARE GONNA POTENTIALLY GET CLUMPED INTO A BALLOT GROUPING.
RIGHT? RIGHT NOW, RIGHT NOW LEMME POINT OUT A DIFFERENT PARK.
LEMME POINT OUT NOT NECESSARILY IN THE ONE 50 MILLION NUMBER, NOT NECESSARILY THERE ARE NO PARKS.
DID WE GET THE WETLANDS? YEAH, WE GOT THE WETLAND CENTER THERE.
BUT THERE'S NO PARKS IN THE $150 MILLION.
SO THERE WOULD BE NO BALLOT INITIATIVE FOR THE ONE 50.
IF WE ADD PARKS, IF WE ADDED PARKS, IT WOULD BE AN AGREEMENT THAT IT WOULD BE BEYOND ONE 50 COULD STAND ON ITS OWN.
IF THE CITIZENS APPROVE IT, THEY APPROVE IT.
BUT IF THEY APPROVED IT AND THEY APPROVED EVERYTHING ELSE, IT WOULD COME WITH A SLIGHT TAX INCREASE.
BECAUSE WE'RE NOT GONNA SAY, HEY, ONLY VOTE ON $150 MILLION IF YOU DON'T WANT A TAX INCREASE.
BUT IT WOULD BE A STANDALONE PROPOSITION BECAUSE THESE PARTS WOULDN'T BE LUMPED IN WITH ANYTHING ELSE.
AND RIGHT NOW, IN THE ONE 50, WE DON'T HAVE ANY PARK PROJECTS.
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WE HAVE THE WETLAND CENTER, WHICH IS A FACILITY, AND THAT WILL GO INTO THE FACILITIES GROUP, NOT INTO THE PARKS.SO WE DON'T HAVE JENKINS, WE DON'T HAVE UNI DA, WE DON'T HAVE WAYNE GRAY, WE DON'T HAVE ANY PARKS, UH, POTENTIAL.
UH, GENE RUSSELL, NO PARKS IN THE ONE 50.
YOU WERE LOOKING AT THE MAGIC NUMBER.
THE ONE THAT WE WERE LOOKING FOR WAS ANOTHER 25 MILLION.
THE NEXT LINE ITEMS, WE JUST ELIMINATED THE EL CHACO, THE NEXT THREE LINE ITEMS ON THE LIST, THE ONE FOR 14, WHICH IS THE BAYTOWN NATURE CENTER, THE WAYNE GRAY SPORTS COMPLEX, AND THE GENE LORETA PARK FOR THE NEXT THREE.
AND THAT'S ABOUT 25 MILLION, CORRECT? THAT THAT'S CORRECT.
YOU'VE GOT A TOTAL OF 35 BILLION IN PARK PROJECTS.
SO, SO IN THAT GROUP THOUGH, JOHN, WHAT WHAT'S NOT SHOWN ON THIS PAGE IS BECAUSE WHEN WE WENT THROUGH THIS, THE UNI DIVE PARK WOULD ACTUALLY MOVE INTO THAT GROUP UP THERE FOR CONSIDERATION BECAUSE OF THE, THE FAVORITISM OF IT, SIMILAR TO THE ONES THAT ARE ALREADY UP THERE, BUT IT'S NOT LISTED BECAUSE AT THE TIME WE DIDN'T HAVE THE ACCURATE NUMBERS.
SO I THINK WHAT I THINK WHAT WE'RE SAYING IS YOU'RE RIGHT, BAYTOWN, NATURE CENTER, WAYNE GRAY, LORETTA RUSSELL, UH, RUSSELL PARK AND UNI DOD PARK WOULD BE THE FOUR PART PROJECTS THAT, THAT WE COULD CONSIDER.
SO UNI NUMBER FIVE GOES TO NUMBER TWO? YEAH.
BE, BECAUSE WE TALKED EARLIER THAT WE HAD ENOUGH SUPPORT FOR IT TO BE COMPARABLE TO THE ONES THAT WERE UP ABOVE IT.
RIGHT? SO, SO GILBERT, I'M CHANGING MY VOTE ON THE WAYNE GRAY SPORTS TOO.
BUT I KNOW, I'M JUST SAYING SINCE UP TOP, YOU'RE, YOU'RE SAYING YOU'RE, YOU'RE IN FAVOR OF IT OR NOT.
SO THAT MEANS WE JUST HAD ONE.
IT DOESN'T CHANGE WHERE WE ARE NOW.
IT JUST MEANS THAT, THANK, THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING THAT.
SO IT DOES MAKE THE WANG GRAY SPORTS COMPLEX PROJECT A LITTLE MORE SUPPORTED BY THE MAJORITY OF ALMOST EVERYBODY HERE.
SO WOULD WE, UH, I THINK HAVING AN OPTION OF HAVING, PRESENTING IT, SAYING WE WERE ALL AGREED ON THE ONE 50.
BUT HAVING PARKS AS AN OPTION FOR CITIZENS TO VOTE, I THINK HAVE GIVING VOTERS THAT POSSIBLE OPTION WOULD, WOULD BE GOOD FOR THE CITIZENS OF BIG TOWN.
I THINK THAT POINT WAS MADE EARLIER IN OUR YEP.
GO LOOK AT ANY CITY'S BOND PACKAGE AND PARK SALE BONDS.
AND THE ONLY REASON THEY BRING PEOPLE TO THE POSTS, THE, THE ONLY REASON THAT PARKS DIDN'T GET UP IN THIS FIRST LIST IS BECAUSE SOME FOLKS IN HERE DIDN'T AGREE WITH, WITH ONE OF THE PARKS ON ALL THE PARK PROJECTS.
AND I GET THAT WHEN WE'RE EARLY IN THE PROCESS AND YOU'RE LOOKING AT ALL THIS OTHER STUFF.
WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW IS SAYING IS OF THESE FOUR PARKS PROJECTS, UH, THAT ARE, THAT ARE EQUAL IN OUR AGREEMENT TO CONSIDER NATURE CENTER, WAYNE GRAY, RUSSELL AND UNI DOD, WHAT'S THE TOTAL OF THOSE FOUR? ABOUT 34 MILLION.
SO IF WE LOOKED AT, UH, BANG FOR THE BUTT, WAYNE GRAY, YOU INCLUDED JENKINS IN THAT, DID YOU? NO, BECAUSE JENKINS DIDN'T HAVE SUPPORT.
SO IT'S LIKE WE COULD DO ALL OF 'EM EXCEPT EITHER THE NATURE CENTER OR UNI DIVE PARK FOR THE NUMBERS.
OR WE DO THOSE TWO AND, AND CUT OUT, UH, WAYNE GRAY AND RE RUSSELL.
WE GOTTA CUT $10 MILLION OUT OF THOSE, NOT 20 MILLION.
THOSE FOUR PROJECTS, HUH? 19 MILLION FOR, SO THOSE FOUR.
BUT WE GOT UNIDO AND THE NATURE CENTER.
I DIDN'T PUT THE NATURE CENTER IN THERE.
THE NATURE CENTER, WAYNE GRAY, RUSSELL UNIDO IS 19 $19 MILLION.
ALRIGHT, SOMEBODY ADD UP LEISURE CENTERS.
WAYNE GRAY HAS FIVE AND A HALF, SO THAT'S 19 AND A HALF.
WHICH ONE'S? NATURE CENTER? PARK NATURE CENTER CENTER.
THAT'S ABOUT 28 MILLION RIGHT THERE.
DID YOU HAVE WAYNE GRAY? THE YES.
CHELSEA, YOU'RE SAYING THE NATURE CENTER? WAYNE GRAY.
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THAT'S NOT, 'CAUSE WE GOT ALL OF 'EM TOGETHER ARE ABOUT 34, 30 5 MILLION.UM, SO IF YOU DON'T INCLUDE THE 5 MILLION FOR RUSSELL, IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? THAT GETS US EXCLUDING, EXCLUDING THAT GETS US TO 28.
WE WERE TRYING TO GET, UM, AROUND THE 25 MILLION, 24.
IT'S A LITTLE ABOVE, BUT THE RUSSELL PARK IS ANOTHER ONE OF THOSE USE LOSE SITUATIONS.
THOUGH WE'VE ALREADY GOT THE FUNDING HALF PAID FOR.
THEY'RE JUST LOOKING FOR ACTUALLY IT'S, UH, MORE THAN HALF PAID.
THEY'RE JUST MISSING OUR THIRD OF THE CONTRIBUTION TO HAVE A PARK UP THERE.
AND, AND I WOULD SAY JUST, UH, PARKS GUYS THAT WE'RE PRETTY CONFIDENT IN THE COUNTY AND THE FAMILY COMPONENT TO THE RUSSELL PARK YEP.
BUT WITHOUT US, IT'S NOT GONNA HAPPEN WITHOUT US.
IT WON'T HAPPEN 5 MILLION AND IT DOESN'T HAPPEN.
UM, THAT IS ONE OF THE PARKS PROJECT THAT DOES HAVE OTHER FUNDING TO MAKE IT HAPPEN.
UH, FOR OUR FIVE, WE GET ANOTHER, WE GET THE REST OF IT TO MAKE IT HAPPEN.
WE GET ALL THAT LAND, THESE OTHER PARK MM-HMM
THEY'RE EXPENSIVE BECAUSE THERE'S NO OTHER FUNDING.
IT'S JUST ALL ON THE, ON THE CITY.
SO, SO WE NEED TO, WE NEED TO KIND OF DECIDE, UM, OF THESE FIVE, WHAT'S THE TOTAL OF THESE? 5 37.
WHY DO WE FEEL ABOUT ALL OF 'EM? I FEEL PUT 'EM ALL IN THERE.
PUT 'EM ON SEPARATE PROPOSITION.
HOW ABOUT IF WE CONSIDER ALL OF 'EM RIGHT NOW AND IF WE GOT TO COME BACK AND DO SOME TWEAKING, WE, WE THEN WE WHITTLE DOWN FIVE OR 10 MILLION.
WHAT DO WE THINK? SO THE BAYTOWN NATURE CENTER PARK, WAYNE G AND LORETTA AND ONIDA PARK.
IS THAT THE FOUR? I DON'T KNOW ALL RUSSELL.
I SAID FIVE PARK, BAYTOWN, NATURE, WAYNE GRAY, LORETTA, RUSSELL FOUR AND UNI DIED.
THOSE FOUR PROJECTS ARE $33.4 MILLION.
WE EITHER CUT ONE OR WE, WE SAY THEY'RE ALL GOOD.
DOESN'T GET US REALLY TO THE NUMBER.
WE WERE LOOKING AT CUTTING A $10 MILLION PROJECT.
EITHER NATURE CENTER OR UNI OR UNIDAD WOULD GET US A LOWER NUMBER RIGHT.
BUT WE'RE LOSING A SIGNIFICANT PROJECT.
SO THIS, THIS IS A STRUGGLE WHEN YOU GET TO THE POINT WHEN YOU SEE VALUE IN ALL THESE, RIGHT.
WE SEE VALUE IN ALL THESE PARK PROJECTS AND THAT'S TOUGH.
AND AND PART OF ME WANTS TO SAY, LET'S LET THE VOTERS DECIDE.
RIGHT? I I THINK YOU OUGHT TAKE ALL FIVE OF THEM AND THEN ONCE YOU GET THE, THE CORRECT FINANCIAL DATA YEP.
YOU MAY NOT BE A QUARTER CENT.
WE'RE THANK YOU FOR YOUR, THANK YOU FOR YOUR INPUT.
YOU CAN COME BACK AND, AND AND, AND GO FOR IT.
SO LET, LET'S, LET'S CONSIDER THE FOUR PARKS PROJECTS AT THE 33 WHATEVER, MILLION DOLLARS AS OUR SECOND GROUP.
AND, AND AGAIN, LIKE MIKE SAID, GOOD, GOOD POINT.
WE'RE, WE'RE PROBABLY GONNA SEE SOME TWEAKING THAT'LL LET THESE PARK PROJECTS KIND OF THE 10 MILLION WILL COME OUT OF THE 150 AND THEN SOMETHING CAN MOVE UP TO THE ONE 50.
AND THAT'S THREE PARK IN THE, YEAH.
LET, LET ME TELL Y'ALL WE'RE, WE'RE NOT 100% FINISHED TONIGHT.
NOT 100%, BUT WE'RE GONNA BE LIKE 99% OKAY.
ONCE WE TWEAK SOME OF THIS STUFF.
PUT THE FOUR PARKS PROJECTS TOGETHER AS A LUMP AND THEN WE'LL LET THEM ABOUT.
I DON'T SEE NO SHAKING HEAD, SO I'M GONNA GO ON, WE'RE GOOD ON THAT AND WE SHOULD KNOW BY NEXT WEEK.
IS THAT CORRECT? UM, WE SHOULD KNOW BY NEXT WEEK IF YES OR NO LOWER FUNDING.
IS THAT A SURE THING? LANDON PARK ON LANTERN AND THEN WEST? YES.
I I THINK WE'LL GET SOME INFORMATION.
WE CAN REVISE THE ESTIMATES NEXT WEEK, UM, ON LANDON PARK.
I'M NOT SURE I'LL HAVE A, YOU KNOW, FINAL ANSWER, BUT I'LL OKAY.
AND LET ME, LET ME TALK ABOUT, UM, THE SCHEDULE RIGHT NOW WHEN I SAY WE'RE REAL, REAL CLOSE, THEY NEED SOME TIME.
AND I'M GONNA BE STRAIGHT UP HONEST WITH YOU.
I I'M NOT GONNA BE HERE NEXT WEEK.
I'M GONNA BE ON VACATION AND, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN START MEETING WITHOUT ME AND GET IT DONE IF YOU WANT.
I, I THINK THAT CINDY NEEDS A COUPLE WEEKS.
I NEED SOME TIME TO MEET WITH THE, THE BOND FOLKS AND THE FINANCE FOLKS TO FIRM ALL THAT UP AND GET THEM TO GIVE US THAT INFORMATION BACK.
SO I'M RECOMMENDING, I KNOW THERE'S A MEETING IN TWO WEEKS, UH, PLANNING ZONING Z ON 15TH.
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WE'LL FIGURE OUT, MAYBE WE CAN CHANGE OUR START TIME OR, OR MEET LATER OR SOMETHING.BUT, UH, OUR TARGET IS TO GET A RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL CLOSE TO THE END OF JULY, THEIR COUNCIL MEETING ON THE 2020 FOURTH OR SIXTH OR SOMETHING.
24TH, SOMEWHERE IN THERE, 17TH.
THEY HAVE TO APPROVE IT AT THEIR NEXT COUNCIL MEETING.
THEY GOT A CALL FOR THE ELECTION AT THE FIRST MEETING IN AUGUST.
I THOUGHT IT WAS THE END OF AUGUST 2ND AUGUST 14TH.
I SAID SECOND, SECOND WEEK IN AUGUST 2ND.
I THOUGHT THEY HAD TO DO IT BY THE END, BUT WE LOST THE MEETING WITH THEM.
SO I DON'T, I DON'T WANT TO GIVE IT TO THEM IN ONE MEETING AND THEY GOTTA MAKE A DECISION.
SO IS THERE ANYTHING CHANGING DRASTICALLY THOUGH, WITH OUR RECOMMENDATION? COULD BE, IT COULD BE ABOUT A $10 MILLION REDUCTION IN MONEY SOMEWHERE IN THERE.
WHICH WOULD THEN, UH, ALLOW US TO MOVE A 10 OR SO MILLION DOLLARS PROJECT UP INTO THAT ONE 50 GROUP, WHICH WOULD MAKE THE GROUP WE JUST AGREED TO 10 MILLION SMALLER, WHICH IS WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO GET TO.
SO I THINK IT'S SAFE TO SAY THAT WHEN ALL THIS GETS TWEAKED OUT, THESE PARK PROJECTS ARE GONNA BE AROUND THE 24, 20 $5 MILLION RANGE.
'CAUSE I DIDN'T REALLY SEE THAT ANYTHING WOULD CHANGE TOO DRASTICALLY TO, FOR US TO NEED TO MEET IF WE HAVE A SOLID RECOMMENDATION.
WELL, THE, THE, THE NEED TO MEET WOULD BE I THINK FOR ALL OF US JUST TO, TO, TO LOOK AT WHAT THIS FINAL RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE.
I THINK I'M PRETTY GOOD ON WHERE EVERYBODY STANDS ON THINGS NOW.
UH, AND, AND I THINK WE'VE GOT A ONE 50.
WE'RE GONNA, WE GOT THE SECOND GROUP.
THE QUESTION IS WHETHER WE WANT TO TAKE EVERYTHING THAT'S LEFT AND SAY, HEY, IF Y'ALL WANT TO DO IT, THROW IT IN THERE.
OR DO WE WANT TO STOP WHERE WE ARE ON THE PARKS PROJECTS? SO THERE'S GONNA BE SOME ADVOCACY THAT HAS TO GO OUT FROM THIS COMMITTEE AND MAYBE PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY.
AND THAT'S TALKING TO ALL THE CIVIC GROUPS, MAYBE A PUBLIC HEARING AND WHATEVER.
AND YOU AND THE ELECTIONS NOVEMBER COMING UP REALLY FAST.
SO YOU CAN'T DO THAT IN A MONTH.
YOU GOT, THERE'S SOME TIME THAT IF YOU WANT THE BOND INVEST, THERE'S SOME TIME IN THERE, A COUPLE OF MONTHS OR SO.
YOU GOTTA HIT EVERY CIVIC GROUP.
YOU GOTTA GET OUT THERE, HIT IT IF YOU WANT THAT BOND TO PASS.
AND THAT'S THE ONLY WAY IT'S GONNA PASS.
UH, AND IF YOU HIT IT HARD AND YOU, AND YOU ANSWER THE QUESTIONS, THEN IT, IT'LL, THERE'S A GOOD CHECK.
BUT ONCE, ONCE CITY COUNCIL CALLS FOR THE GEO BOND ELECTION, THAT'S WHEN THE NE THAT'S THE TRIGGER FOR THE NEXT PART TO START.
AND THERE'LL BE A POLITICAL ACTION COMMITTEE FORUM.
HIM, THERE'LL BE A CHAIR OF THAT COMMITTEE.
SOME OF US, ALL OF US OR OR WHATEVER CAN JOIN, OTHER FOLKS CAN JOIN TO GO OUT.
AND OBVIOUSLY WE'RE THE ONES THAT ARE GONNA BE ABLE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS.
KEN KNOWS I WENT TO THE LIONS CLUB TODAY.
THEY INVITED ME TO GO TALK ABOUT THIS, THIS BOND.
I SAID, WE DON'T, WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO TALK ABOUT YET.
I MEAN, EVERYTHING WE'VE SAID HERE IS PUBLIC, IT'S VIDEOED AND ALL THAT.
THEY SAID, WE DON'T, WE DON'T WANNA KNOW WHAT YOU'RE RECOMMENDING.
WE WANNA KNOW WHAT YOU'VE DONE.
HOW HAVE YOU GOTTEN HERE? WELL, I GAVE THAT UPDATE TO COUNCIL LAST WEEK, BUT AT THIS LION CLUB MEETING, AND KEN WAS THERE.
I GOT TO TALK ABOUT WHAT WE HAVE DONE AS INDIVIDUALS.
I TALKED ABOUT EVERYBODY AND NOT BAD.
I DIDN'T TALK BAD ABOUT ANYBODY.
WE NEED, WE NEED ALL THE PERSPECTIVES.
WE GOTTA BE ABLE TO SAY WE HAD FOLKS FROM ALL PART OF TOWN.
WE HAD FOLKS WITH ALL KINDS OF OPINIONS AND, AND YESES AND NOS, AND WE STRUGGLED WITH NEEDS AND WANTS AND DEFINITIONS, ALL THAT STUFF.
AND, AND I JUST TALKED, I REALLY DIDN'T EVEN HAVE A PLAN.
SO, BUT THE FEEDBACK I GOT WAS POSITIVE.
THE FEED, THIS WAS THE LIONS CLUB.
AND, AND THESE ARE FOLKS THAT ARE ENGAGED IN THE COMMUNITY.
THEY'RE, THEY'RE GONNA GO OUT AND SUPPORT STUFF.
I THINK YOU'D GET A HUNDRED PERCENT VOTE OUTTA THE LION.
I I THINK IF WE TOOK THE 20 SOMETHING PEOPLE IN THAT ROOM AND ASK THE BOAT THEY'D VOTE FOR, YOU KNOW, AND, AND, AND SO I THINK THE, THE COMMUNITY IS GOING TO ACCEPT, UH, THIS GEO BOND.
WE, WE, WE GET TO, THIS IS NOT A SOCIAL MEDIA CAMPAIGN.
THIS IS A FACE TO FACE CAMPAIGN.
IF YOU GOT A NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION MEETING, SOMETIME WE'LL BE THERE TO TALK ABOUT IT.
IT DOESN'T MATTER IF IT'S FOUR PEOPLE OR 12 OR 20.
IF, IF YOU'RE IN A SERVICE CLUB AND YOU WANT A PRESENTATION, WE'RE GONNA BE THERE.
THAT'S HOW PEOPLE DEAL WITH THIS.
I'M NOT DISCOUNTING SOCIAL, I'M NOT DISCOUNTING GETTING INFORMATION OUT THERE, BUT THE LITTLE TASTE OF IT.
NOW, I'LL BE HONEST WITH YOU, I GOT A TEXT FROM SOMEBODY SAID THAT THEY'RE COMING OUT STRAIGHT UP AGAINST IT AND THEY'RE GONNA LEAD THE CHARGE.
WELL, I'M NOT GONNA SAY WHO, BUT FINE.
IT, IT'S, WE, WE KNOW THAT HAPPENS EVERY TIME.
YOU KNOW, AND WHAT, WHAT WE'VE GOTTA DO IS BE ABLE TO SAY, THIS IS GOOD FOR BAYTOWN, THIS IS GOOD FOR BAYTOWN.
WE'RE NOT DEALING WITH EVERYTHING ELSE.
WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH ANYTHING ELSE.
WHAT WE KNOW IS IF WE SHUT EVERYTHING DOWN BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE TICKED OFF, IT GETS WORSE.
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IT WILL NOT GET BETTER.SO WE GOTTA DO OUR BEST TO SHOW CITIZENS THIS IS GOOD FOR BAYTOWN, THIS IS GOOD FOR ALL THE CITIZENS.
AND, AND, AND I'VE GOTTEN POSITIVE FEEDBACK.
I'VE GOTTEN PEOPLE CHALLENGING AND ASKING QUESTIONS AND THEY'RE THE SAME OLD RAPPING ABOUT EVERYTHING ELSE GOING ON IN THE CITY.
WE, WE WE'RE DEALING WITH SOMETHING VERY SPECIFIC AND VERY UNIQUE.
HASN'T HAPPENED IN A LONG TIME.
AND WE'RE DOING IT DIFFERENT THAN THE LAST FEW GEO BOND COMMITTEES HAVE DONE.
AND SO, UH, I WAS ASKED MM-HMM
DID WE GET CROSS SECTIONS OF CITY? WAS IT DIVERSE? WAS IT, I SAID, MAN, WE HAD EVERY KIND OF DIVERSITY YOU CAN IMAGINE PE-PEOPLE THOUGHT THIS WAY AND THOUGHT THAT WAY.
AND YOU KNOW, THAT'S DIVERSITY, DIVERSITY OF THOUGHT AND CONVERSATION IS WHAT I'M INTERESTED IN.
UH, I THINK MIKE IS PROBABLY FEELING BETTER TODAY THAN I'VE HAD A LOT OF POSITIVE FEEDBACK.
AND I, I THINK MIKE IS FEELING BETTER TODAY THAN HE DID WHEN HE STARTED, RIGHT? YEAH.
I JUST WANT THE DUMBER,
I, I'D BE, I WOULD BE, I WOULD VOTE FOR A $200 MILLION BOND PERSONALLY BECAUSE IT'S NEEDED IN THE CITY IN A TAX RATE.
MY ISSUE IS I DON'T THINK WE CAN PASS A $200 MILLION BOND.
SO IT'S NOT REALISTIC AND THERE'S NO SENSE NOT BEING, NOT BEING REALISTIC ABOUT GOING INTO THAT PROCESS.
I THINK WITH Y'ALL, WE'VE DONE TONIGHT AND WITH THE PROJECTS, I, I KNOW THAT I CAN GO OUT AND DEFEND THIS IN THE COMMUNITY.
I MEAN, I, I KNOW I CAN GO OUT AND SELL THOSE FIVE PARK PROJECTS WHETHER I AGREE WITH ALL OF 'EM OR NOT.
I CAN GO OUT AND SAY, THIS IS WHY WE'RE DOING 'EM.
THIS IS WHAT THEY'RE GONNA PROVE.
YOU KNOW, THIS IS THIS, YOU WANT YOUR STREETS FIXED, YOU WANT YOUR FLOODING FIXED, YOU GOTTA FIX 'EM.
YOU JUST, YOU HAVE TO FIX YOUR HOUSE WHEN IT'S FALLING DOWN.
THIS IS A STEP IN THE DIRECTION THAT WE, WE HAVEN'T GONE IN A WHILE, BUT I THINK IT'S A STEP IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.
AND I THINK IT'S THE BEGINNING OF THE NEXT STEPS BECAUSE THIS IS, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT HAPPENS.
EVERY TAXING ENTITY HAS THESE FROM THE COUNT, FROM THE, EVERYBODY, YOU KNOW, SCHOOL DISTRICTS, UH, LEE COLLEGE, THE CITY, THE COUNTY, THEY, THEY HAVE THESE TYPE OF ELECTIONS WHERE CITIZENS GET TO SAY, I WANT FLOODING FIXED ACROSS HARRIS COUNTY.
SO WHAT DO YOU DO? YOU VOTE ON IT NOW GO FIX IT.
RIGHT? WE'VE GOT A VERY SPECIFIC LIST OF PROJECTS, VERY SPECIFIC.
THEY CAN'T VERY MUCH, THEY'RE GONNA GET DONE.
WE, WE HAD THE CONVERSATION TODAY, THE $20 MILLION FOR, FOR STREET REPAIRS.
AND I TOLD THEM, THERE'S SOMEBODY LIVES ON THAT STREET'S GONNA VOTE FOR AND IF THEY DON'T GET THEIR STREET DONE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE IN TROUBLE.
AND SO THEY'VE GOT CAPACITY BUILT INTO THIS TO MAKE SURE ALL THAT REPAIR COULD BE DONE.
AND THERE MAY BE EVEN A LITTLE MORE.
AND, AND, AND THAT WILL BE DECIDED LATER ON, RIGHT? THIS NOVEMBER BALLOT'S GONNA BE A IS UNFORTUNATELY IS A MIDTERM BALLOT AND IT'S GONNA BE A LONG BALLOT BECAUSE THERE'S SOME STATE CONSTITUTIONAL ITEMS AND THINGS ON THERE.
SO WE REALLY GOTTA MAKE SURE PEOPLE GO ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE BOTTOM OF THE BALLOT.
'CAUSE THAT'S WHERE BAYTOWN WILL BE YEAH.
AND I THINK, I THINK WE CAN GET FOLKS TO, TO, TO FOLKS ON THAT.
THEY PROBABLY DON'T CARE TOO MUCH ABOUT ALL THE OTHER STUFF.
UH, BUT WE CAN CERTAINLY GET 'EM FOCUSED ON WHAT BAYTOWN NEEDS.
SO LOOK, HEY, UH, UH, I THINK WE MADE A LOT OF GOOD PROGRESS.
UH, YOU KNOW, JUST AN EARLY THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR, YOUR COMMENTS AND WORK AND TIME.
AND I KNOW THIS IS NOT WHAT YOU SIGNED UP FOR, UH, THINKING WE WERE FINISHED IN EARLY MAY, BUT, BUT I, I'M PROUD OF WHAT WE'VE DONE AND I LIKE MIKE, I'VE GOTTEN GOOD, GOOD COMMENTS ON EVERYBODY HERE.
UH, THERE ARE PEOPLE WATCHING THE MEETINGS, UM, YOU KNOW, WHICH, WHICH IS GOOD.
THEY'RE HEARING OUR CONVERSATION.
IT'S NOT JUST ONE OF US SAYING WHAT HAPPENED, IT'S ALL OF US SAYING WHAT HAPPENED.
SO, UH, THANKS TO EVERYONE, UH, I WILL, WE WILL, I WILL UPDATE THIS RIGHT HERE AND GET IT BACK TO YOU.
AND I WON'T ASK YOU TO SEND ME ANYTHING BACK RIGHT AWAY.
SO, BUT IT'LL BE INFORMATION TO KIND OF GET US RECONCILED WITH WHAT WE DID TODAY.
WE'LL GET THE FINANCE INFORMATION FIRMED UP.
WE'LL GET FRANK AND HIS TEAM TO, TO TO, TO TWEAK SOME OF THE NUMBERS.
AND THEN WE'LL COME BACK AND WE'RE GONNA HAVE A, A SOLID RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL THAT WE CAN ALL GET BEHIND.
SO IS THE NEXT MEETING THE 15TH? THE NEXT MEETING WILL BE TWO WEEKS FROM TODAY.
AND, AND WE'LL FIGURE OUT WHAT, HE AND Z NEVER LAST MORE THAN 30 MINUTES.
WHAT TIME DOES IT MEET? UH, THAT'S A LIST PROBABLY ABOUT 5 30, 6.
UNLESS WE I'LL HAVE, I'LL TALK TO, UH, WELL I'LL TALK TO HIM, BUT I, UNLESS THERE'S A LONG AGENDA, I MEAN, IT'S USUALLY TWO OR THREE VOTES AND BOOM, WE'RE OUT OF THERE.
WELL, BASED, BASED ON WHAT WE GET AND, AND WHAT I SEND YOU AND HOW PREPARED WE'RE, WE MAY NOT TAKE VERY LONG EITHER.
SO, AND, AND IF THERE'S NOT ANYTHING REAL SERIOUSLY ON THERE, I'LL JUST SKIP PNC MEETING.
'CAUSE IF IT'S, IF WE START AT FOUR 30 AND WE, WE GET, YOU KNOW, WE JUST GET ON IT.
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TALKING THE 15TH.GETTING OUT LITTLE EARLY THINGS.
WELL WE, YOU KNOW, WE, WE SHOULD BE FINISHED BY THAT.
SO IT STARTS AT FIVE 30, NOT FIVE.
I KNOW HIS MEETING, HE WAS TALKING ABOUT NO, THE PZ SAYS HAVE TO GO BACK.
THAT'S NOT AN, THAT'S ACTUALLY KICK US OUT HERE.