* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:01] I DON'T THINK SO. YEAH. YES. ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT. WELL, WE WILL CALL TO [ CITY OF BAYTOWN NOTICE OF MEETING COLLECTIVE BARGAINING SESSION BETWEEN THE CITY OF BAYTOWN AND THE BAYTOWN PROFESSIONAL FIREFIGHTERS' ASSOCIATION MONDAY, JUNE 30, 2025 3:00 P.M. BAYTOWN CONFERENCE ROOM, BAYTOWN CITY HALL 2401 MARKET STREET, BAYTOWN, TEXAS 77520 AGENDA CALL TO ORDER AND ANNOUNCEMENT OF QUORUM ] ORDER THIS COLLECTIVE BARGAINING BARGAINING SESSION BETWEEN THE CITY OF BAYTOWN AND DEPART BAYTOWN PROFESSIONAL FIREFIGHTERS ASSOCIATION. IT IS MONDAY, JUNE THE 30TH, 2025 AT 3:00 PM IN THE BAYTOWN CONFERENCE ROOM. FIRST ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS CITIZEN COMMENTS. NONE HAVE NONE. . YOU DON'T WANNA BE A CITIZEN. ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT. WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM TWO A, WHICH IS TO CONSIDER THE BAYTOWN PROFESSIONAL FIREFIGHTERS ASSOCIATION COLLECTIVE BARGAINING PROPOSALS THERE. UM, WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING CURRENTLY AT THIS TIME. WE'LL BE ABLE TO GET YOU THE REST OF THE STUFF FROM THE NEXT MEETING. OKAY. ALL RIGHTY. THEN WE WILL MOVE ON TO ITEM TWO B, WHICH IS TO [b. Consider the City of Baytown's collective bargaining proposals. ] CONSIDER THE CITY OF BAY TOWN'S COLLECTIVE BARGAINING PROPOSALS. DID I SAY THAT RIGHT? MM-HMM . OKAY. I THINK SO. I WAS LIKE, I WAS LOOKING BACK. I HAVE A HEADACHE RIGHT NOW. I WAS LOOKING DOWN, BUT IT SOUNDED RIGHT. I KNOW. AND THEN, WELL, THAT'S THE THING I LOOKED UP. 'CAUSE I, I WAS LIKE, DID, I DID NOT SAY THAT RIGHT BECAUSE THEN I LOOKED UP AND HE WAS LIKE LOOKING AT ME LIKE, LIKE WHAT ARE YOU SAYING I FACE? ANYWAY, ALRIGHT, WE'LL START OFF. UM, SO THE FIRST PROPOSAL WE HAVE IS ARTICLE ONE, UM, WHICH IS THE SAME AS WE PREVIOUSLY HAD, WHICH IS THE PREAMBLE. THERE ARE NO CHANGES TO THAT ARTICLE. AND I'M JUST GONNA GO THROUGH, UM, WE HAVE A NUMBER OF PROPOSALS THAT ARE FROM THE FORMER CONTRACT, UM, EXACTLY AS THEY WERE. SO WE'RE JUST GONNA PROPOSE THOSE BACK TO YOU. UM, SO I'M JUST GONNA GO THROUGH AND PRESENT ALL OF THOSE TO Y'ALL AND THEN WE CAN TAKE A CAUCUS IF YOU WANT, AND Y'ALL CAN RUN THROUGH 'EM, IF THAT SOUNDS OKAY. OKAY. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. ARTICLE TWO IS RECOGNITION. AND SO AGAIN, SAME AS BEFORE, LEAVING THAT IN THERE. AND I'M, Y'ALL SHOULD HAVE NOTHING. FOUR COPIES THERE. . ARTICLE THREE IS MANAGEMENT RIGHTS. AGAIN, NO CHANGES TO, OH, HOLD ON. THERE YOU GO. ARTICLE FOUR IS THE APPLICABILITY OF THE CITY'S RULES AND POLICIES. ARTICLE FIVE IS UNION MEMBERSHIP NOT REQUIRED AND NON-DISCRIMINATION. ARTICLE SIX IS A NO STRIKE CLAUSE. ARTICLE SEVEN IS FOR DUES DEDUCTIONS. PROTOCOL EIGHT IS THE AGE LIMIT FOR NEW HIRE. ARTICLE NINE IS THE PROBATIONARY PERIOD. IT DOES HAVE A SLIGHT CHANGE WHERE IT HAVE 30 BEFORE IT'S LISTED. CAN WE ADD CALENDAR DAYS TO IT? IT SAYS 30 DAYS, BUT IT DIDN'T CLARIFY WHAT THE USED WERE. IT'S ON PAGE ONE THERE. THAT'S THE ONLY CHANGE. UM, ARTICLE 12 IS CLOSING COSTS AND SAID THERE IS SOME CLEANUP ON THIS. UM, ARTICLE PANDEMIC. I DON'T KNOW WHY. I THINK AFTER 12 OF THESE I'D BE ABLE TO FIGURE OUT WHICH DIRECTION I'M GOING. UM, SO CHANGING IT HAD FIREFIGHTER PARAMEDIC AND JUST CHANGING THAT TO READ AS FIREFIGHTER. THAT IS CLEANUP, UH, LANGUAGE THAT WE'RE APPLYING TO ALL OF THE P ALL OF THE ARTICLES. SO IT'S JUST TO MAKE THAT, UM, AS A FIREFIGHTER INSTEAD OF FIREFIGHTER PARAMEDIC. SO THAT'S THE ONLY CHANGE ON THAT ARTICLE THOUGH. AND WE'RE SAYING FIREFIGHTER IS AS AN EMPLOYEE OF THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. EVEN IF WE HIRE A PARAMEDIC. YEAH. ONLY. BUT WE'RE GONNA REQUIRE THE PARAMEDIC. ARE WE, ARE WE GONNA BE OKAY WITH CONSIDERING FIREFIGHTER TO ENCOMPASS EVERYONE CONSIDERING THAT WE JUST OPENED UP TO HIRE SEVERAL PARAMEDICS? THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING. PARAMEDIC ONLY CERTIFICATIONS. WELL, I WAS JUST THINKING IS JUST AFTER YOU SAID THAT, 'CAUSE WE HAD TWEAKED IT A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE TIMING OF IT, BUT UM, NOW THAT I'M THINKING ABOUT IT, WE COULD JUST SAY, UM, WE COULD JUST SAY EMPLOYEE, UM, 'CAUSE IT'S NOT A FIREFIGHTER PARA, IT'S NOT A FIREFIGHTER PARAMEDIC EITHER. IF IT'S NOT AN EMPLOYEE COVERED BY THIS CONTRACT. IS THAT WHEN YOU COVER EMPLOYEE? [00:05:01] WELL, AND AND, AND THE ONLY REASON I BRING IT UP IS 'CAUSE I DON'T WANT SOMEONE LIKE, WE'RE ALL IN AGREEMENT OF WHO IT'S WHO IT'S SUPPOSED TO COVER. IT'S COVERING ANYBODY, ANYBODY THAT WE'RE HIRING. BUT IF WE HIRE SOMEBODY WHO'S PARAMEDIC ONLY AND WE HAVEN'T SENT THEM TO FIRE SCHOOL YET, THEN SOMEONE'S GONNA MAKE ANY SAME. WHEN SOMEONE COULD MAKE AN ARGUMENT THAT THAT DOESN'T APPLY TO, THEN YOU HAVE TO GO LOOK AT THE TIMING OF THOSE OTHER REQUIREMENTS. WE HAVE A REQUIREMENT FOR GETTING YOUR FIREFIGHTER WITHIN A YEAR. WHAT DOES IT SAY ABOUT THE, UM, WHAT'S THE TITLE OF THAT ARTICLE? THAT WAS COST REIMBURSEMENT. LOOKS REIMBURSEMENT. SO, UM, THAT ONE, DOES THAT COME AFTER A YEAR? NO, THE, UH, THE PARAMEDIC COMES IF YOU'VE RECEIVED YOUR CERTIFICATION WITHIN ONE YEAR OF DATE OF HIRE, THIS IS CLOSE CULTURE HOME'S ONLY FOR NEW HIRES. YEAH. IT'S ONLY FOR NEW HIRES. ALL OF THEM ARE ONLY FOR NEW HIRES. BUT THE ONE THAT, IT'S THE PARAMEDIC REIMBURSEMENT, IT'S THE ONE THAT'RE TALKING ABOUT THAT HAS A YEAR STANDPOINT. IT'S, THEY'VE RECEIVED THEIR PARAMEDIC CERTIFICATION IN ONE YEAR OF THE DATE OF HIRE. THEN THEY WOULD RECEIVE THAT REIMBURSEMENT. I CAN'T, DO WE WANT, THE LIKELIHOOD OF IT BEING A PROBLEM IS SMALL. RIGHT. BUT IT'S, IT'S THERE BUT IT DOESN'T, WITH THAT ARGUMENT, IT DOESN'T EVEN WORK THE WAY THE LANGUAGE IS CURRENTLY. RIGHT. SO IT'S FIREFIGHTER PARAMEDIC. WELL, 'CAUSE IT HAS A FIREFIGHTER SLASH PARAMEDIC SLASH PARAMEDIC AND SLASH WARD TYPE SITUATION. FIREFIGHTER WARD PARAMEDIC. I SEE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING THOUGH. SHE SOMEBODY WHO IS A FIREFIGHTER PARAMEDIC, BUT THIS IS WORDED WITH FIREFIGHTER SLASH PARAMEDIC. COULD EITHER, I DON'T KNOW. I DON'T KNOW. I DON'T, IT'S A LEGAL QUESTION. I DON'T, WHEN I SEE FIREFIGHTER PARAMEDIC SLASH PARAMEDIC SAYING A FIREFIGHTER PARAMEDIC OR ARE YOU SAYING OR SO THE GENERAL TERMINOLOGY, I MEAN, ACCEPTED BASICALLY NATIONWIDE IN THE FIRE SERVICE IS A FIRE MEDIC. IF THEY ARE A FIREFIGHTER SLASH PARAMEDIC OR IF THEY ARE, ALL OF 'EM THE ONLY COME IN THAT IS GENERALLY THE, THE TERMINOLOGY'S ACCEPTED AROUND THE COUNTRY. BUT WE COULD I THAT BY CALLING 'EM EMPLOYEES. YEAH. OR YOU KNOW YEAH. EMPLOYEE SERVICE, WHATEVER WE WANT DO. CIVIL SERVICE EMPLOYEES, WHEN THEY WRITE TO WORK FOR THE FIRST YEAR, THEY'RE STILL, THEY'RE JUST ON PROBATIONARY PERIOD. ALRIGHT, SO THE REFERENCE IN ARTICLE TWO IS TO THE DEFINITION OF FIREFIGHTER IN 1 74 0.00. THAT'S WHAT SAY. SO, UM, VANCE, COULD YOU GET THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE? PUT MY LAPTOP AND WE CAN PUT IT UP HERE. I 1 74 0.003. IT IS INTENDED TO INCLUDE ALL PERMANENT PAID EMPLOYEE OF THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO READ THAT? , YOU JUST WENT TO THE FIRST GOOGLE RESULT. IT'S TERRIBLE. I KNOW. I WAS LIKE, WHAT THE, IF YOU GO TO 1 43, THERE'S A, I THINK IT'S A LAW FIRM THAT HAS A HYPERLINKED DOCUMENT, TEXAS TO PUBLIC LAW. THEY HAVE A GOOD HYPERLINK. THERE WE GO. THAT'S WHAT I'VE LOOKED AT BEFORE. A PERMANENT PAID EMPLOYEE OF THE FIRE DEPARTMENT OF A POLITICAL SUB SUBDIVISION. THE TERM DOES NOT INCLUDE THE CHIEF OR A VOLUNTEER FIREFIGHTER IN AN ARTICLE TWO, IT ALSO EXCLUDES CIVILIANS OR OTHER EMPLOYEES. IS IT TECHNICALLY THE FIRE FIGHTER, IF IT REFERS BACK TO 1 74, IS IT IS INCLUSIVE OF AN ANYONE WHO'S HIRED EITHER AS JUST A FIRE FIGHTER OR JUST A PARAMEDIC OR AS A FIREFIGHTER PARAMEDIC? UH, YES. YES. BUT I WOULD ALSO TAKE OUT, UM, OTHER EMPLOYEES IN THE CURRENT ARTICLE TOO. SO AS THERE'S NO CONFUSION, BECAUSE WE'RE ONLY GONNA HAVE THE FIRE CHIEF AND CIVILIANS. RIGHT. THERE'S NOT GONNA BE ANY OTHER TYPE [00:10:01] OF EMPLOYEE. BUT THE CIVILIANS AREN'T COVERED UNDER THIS. NO, THEY'RE NOT. BUT I'M LOOKING AT THE DEFINITION IN ARTICLE TWO SAYING, SAYING I THINK FOR OTHER EMPLOYEES IS FAR LESS AND CONFUSING BECAUSE WE'RE ONLY GONNA HAVE FIREFIGHTERS, FIRE CHIEF AND CIVILIANS. CORRECT. IT WOULD BE, BUT I MEAN, YEAH. YEAH. LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE 1 43 HAS A CONFLICTING DEFINITION OF FIREFIGHTER. WHAT'S THE 1 43 DEFINITION? UH, 1 43 A FIREFIGHTER MEANS A MEMBER OF A FIRE DEPARTMENT WHO IS APPOINTED IN SUBSTANTIAL COMPLIANCE WITH THIS CHAPTER. OR WHO IS ENTITLED TO CIVIL SERVICE STATUS UNDER SECTION 1 4 3 0 0 5 OR 1 4 3 0 8 4. UH, THIS APPLIES ONLY TO AN EMPLOYEE OF A FIRE DEPARTMENT WHOSE POSITION REQUIRES SUBSTANTIAL KNOWLEDGE OF FIREFIGHTING AND WHO HAS MET THE REQUIREMENTS OF CERTIFICATION BY THE TEXAS COMMISSION OF FIRE PROTECTION. SO THAT'S QUITE, THAT'S QUITE DIFFERENT. AND THAT WOULD EXCLUDE PARAMEDICS. SO THEN 1 74, THAT'S TO GET COVER UNDER 1 43. I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S A SUPERSEDING, BUT IT'S ALSO REFERENCED HERE BECAUSE THERE'S NOT USUALLY WHEN, I MEAN 1 74 APPLIES WHILE THEY'RE PROBATIONARY. ONCE THEY'RE NO LONGER PROBATIONARY, THEY'RE GONNA FALL UNDER 1 43. BY THIS TERM, IT IS INTENDED TO INCLUDE ALL PERMANENT PAID EMPLOYEES WHO HAVE BEEN HIRED IN SUBSTANTIAL COMPLIANCE WITH 3 1 43 GOES ON TO DEFINE ALL OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT THEY COULD BE ASSIGNED TO. AND THERE'S 10 OF THEM. AND EVERY SINGLE ONE OF 'EM STARTS WITH THE WORD FIRE. LIKE THERE'S NOT A SINGLE MEDICAL PART THERE. WE GET THE, OKAY, SO LET'S DO THIS SINCE AFTER 15 YEARS OF LANGUAGE , WE'RE LIKE, HMM, HMM, MAYBE WE DON'T LIKE THAT LANGUAGE NO MORE. UM, OKAY, SO NO, NO. TA ON 12 THEN UNTIL WE GET I WAS GONNA SAY, YEAH. YEAH. SO 12. AND Y'ALL CAN HOLD ON TWO FOR A SECOND TOO. MY ONLY QUESTION IS IF WE JUST LEAVE IT THE SAME, IS THAT COVERING EITHER OR WITH THE SLASH I THINK IT DOES. I MEAN, I WOULD SAY THAT WHEN WE DO STUFF AND WE AGREE UPON ALL, IT SEEMS THE INTENT OF OUR, THE ARTICLE MATTERS. SO I THINK THAT IF IT, IF IT SAYS IF WE, WE AGREE THAT IT SAYS FIREFIGHTER PARAMEDIC MEANS THAT IT COVERS FIREFIGHTER SLASH PARAMEDICS AND THEN FIRE OR PARAMEDIC ONLY WHEN THEY HIRE ON THAT, IT COVERS IT. THAT'S, I THINK THAT'S HOW THE, UH, INTERPRET IT IN A COURT. OKAY. WE LEAVE IT THE SAME. WE LEAVE THE SAME THEN 12. YEAH. SO, OKAY. WE'LL, I'M SORRY. WHAT'D YOU SAY? I DON'T MEAN TO BE DIFFICULT ABOUT IT. I JUST, I I SEE A POTENTIAL FOR SOMEONE TO, TO ARGUE THOUGH. YEAH, NO, THAT'S FINE. I THINK AS WRONG AN AGREEMENT HERE THAT I THINK THAT IT SHOULD COUNT FOR EVERYTHING SHOULD JUST GO BACK TO THE, YEAH. WELL, UM, SO WE'LL UPDATE THAT DURING CAUCUS TO GO BACK TO THIS WORDING. OKAY. NEXT ONE IS ARTICLE 15, WHICH IS A REAPPOINTMENT AND THERE'S NO, NO CHANGES IN THAT. YES SIR. YEP. NO CHANGES IN THAT ONE. ALL RIGHT. UM, THE NEXT ARTICLE IS SHIFT EXCHANGES AND EMPLOYEE SUBSTITUTIONS CHANGES TO THAT ONE. ARTICLE 23, WHICH IS TIME OFF FOR ASSOCIATION BUSINESS. I NEED THE OTHER ONES. [00:15:01] WHAT'D THAT? DO YOU HIT ME SOME? DANG. WITH PAPERWORK. I KNOW . I KNOW. I'M JUST LIKE, I DON'T KNOW WHAT, OKAY. ARTICLE 28 IS POLITICAL ACTIVITY AND THEN ARTICLE 31 IS THE GRIEVANCE PROCEDURE. ARTICLE 38 IS SCOPE OF THE AGREEMENT. AND YOU WILL NOTICE ON THE FIRST PAGE, UM, JUST A SMALL CHANGE THERE. IT REFERRED TO THE APPENDIX FOR YEARS ONE THROUGH SIX. THOSE DON'T EXIST. IT PROBABLY DIDN'T ACTUALLY EXIST ON THE LAST AGREEMENT. WHICH ONE WAS THAT? 38. 38. AND THEN ARTICLE 37 IS THE SAVINGS CLAUSE. AND AGAIN, NO CHANGES THERE. SO, UH, THAT THOSE, ALL OF THE ARTICLES WE HAVE READY TO PRESENT TODAY. I DO HAVE A QUESTION, IF YOU DON'T MIND REAL QUICK. MM-HMM . IF A LOT OF THESE AREN'T CHANGING, WHY ARE WE LOOKING IT OR WHY WE RESIGN IT ON THEM TO ESTABLISH THE NEW CONTRACT? LEMME DO THAT LAST CONTRACT. OKAY. . I WAS JUST, I'M JUST WONDERING, I'M JUST ASKING THE QUESTION. I MEAN, IT DOESN'T MATTER TO ME IF THEY DON'T CHANGE. I DON'T. THIS IS A WHOLE TREE. THOSE ARE ALL THE ARTICLES THAT WE WERE PROPOSING FOR THE NEW CONTRACT. WE STILL HAVE OBVIOUSLY THE COMPENSATION ARTICLES AND STUFF, BUT RIGHT NOW THOSE ARE ALL THE ARTICLES WE'RE PROPOSING. OKAY. ALRIGHT. WELL IF YOU DON'T MIND, LET'S CAUCUS REAL QUICK. SORRY ABOUT THAT. THERE'S A BROKEN WATER CAUCUS JUST IN CASE, BECAUSE I CAN'T EVER LET ANYTHING GO . OKAY. I WANT TO GO BACK TO THIS DEFINITION OF FIREFIGHTER IN 1 43 0.005 B. IT SAYS THAT IN MUNICIPALITY THAT ADOPTS THIS CHAPTER, AN EMPLOYEE OF A FIRE DEPARTMENT WHOSE PRIMARY DUTIES ARE TO PROVIDE EMERGENCY MEDICAL SERVICES IS CONSIDERED TO BE A FIREFIGHTER. THAT'S WHAT THAT WAS THE, WHEN THEY STARTED ALLOWING MEDICS TO FALL UNDER CIVIL SERVICE, THEY WROTE IN THE NEW CODE CODE. THAT'S WHAT THEY'VE BEEN DEALING WITH IN . THAT'S A FAIR POINT. . YEAH. NO, I MEAN, YEAH, THAT WORKS. IT IS. WE JUST WANNA MAKE SURE, NO MATTER WHAT, IF WE CHANGE IT STILL THE SAME THING. THE INTENTION IS TO COVER THE PEOPLE THAT ARE HIRED FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. EITHER OR. IT DOESN'T MATTER TO ME. YEAH, I MEAN, THAT MEAN THAT'S THE POINT OF SITTING HERE AND TALKING ABOUT IT. MAKE SURE WE GET IT RIGHT. RIGHT. OKAY. SO I'M GOING, I'LL JUST SET THIS ONE SEPARATE BECAUSE I PUT 'EM IN ORDER. NOW, NOW THAT'S ALL I KNOW. SO YOU'D HAVE TO REDO THE WHOLE THING. SHOULD THAT, DO WE HAVE THAT DEFINITION? DO WE HAVE DEFINITIONS IN OUR CONTRACT? NOT IN THE CONTRACT. IT REFERS BACK TO ONE 40. WE HAVE SOME AT THE BEGINNING OF THAT ARTICLE. LIKE WHY WHEN WE DO THE OVERTIME ARTICLE, IT HAS THE DEFINITIONS OF THE MEANING OF THIS. LIKE RENT CREATING OVERTIME, ALL THESE THINGS. OH YEAH. ITSELF, NOT THE ENTIRE, AND I SAYING THAT IT'S MAYBE ON THAT ONE WE COULD POSSIBLY THINK ABOUT APPLYING THAT LANGUAGE TO IT FOR THE DEFINITION OF THE FIREFIGHTER. MAYBE WE DON'T HAVE TO. I'M JUST BRINGING IT UP. IT, IT ACTUALLY DOES TRACK THE LANGUAGE. OKAY. UM, 1 43. IT'S JUST NOT AS COMPREHENSIVE AS 0.05 B. GOTCHA. BUT IT, BUT IT INCORPORATES, UH, 1 73 0.003 SPECIFICALLY AND THE ENTIRETY OF 1 43 IN THE DEFINITION OF, UM, EMPLOYEE OR FIREFIGHTERS EMPLOYED BY THE CITY OF BAYTOWN. THAT'S, YEAH. THAT'S THE TERM THAT SHE, IN ARTICLE TWO BOTH LISTED IN THERE. IT'S 1 74 0 3 AND 1 0 3. OKAY. BUT THEY, THEY WOULD FIT ONE FOUR, LIKE WHEN, IF WE HIRED A PARAMEDIC THE DAY THAT THEY WERE HIRED, THEY'RE ALREADY A PARAMEDIC. THEY FIT 1 43 0.05 ON DAY ONE. CORRECT. AND ONCE THEY BECOME A FIREFIGHTER, THEN THEY FIT THE, THE OTHER DEFINITION THAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT. SO THEY, THEY'RE, THEY FIT THE WHOLE WAY THROUGH. YEAH. I GOTCHA. AND ONE ON ONE SECTION OR THE OTHER. CORRECT. [00:20:03] OKAY. YOU ANY CAUCUS REAL GOOD? SURE. NOT SURE. PRETTY COLD IN THERE. SO HE JUST, ALRIGHT, WE'RE BACK ON THE RECORD. OKAY. UM, WE WE'RE, WE'RE OKAY WITH MOST OF THIS. THERE'S A COUPLE OF THINGS, BUT WE'LL GET THEM AS WE GO. WE'LL START WITH ARTICLE ONE. WE'RE OKAY WITH THAT? YEP. THAT'S IN THE MIDDLE. MY ARTICLE TWO. GOOD. WITH ON THIS EXTRA. I JUST NEED Y THAT ONE. THAT ONE'S IN. UH, OKAY. SO ARTICLE THREE. UH, WE DON'T FEEL COMFORTABLE SIGNING THAT 'CAUSE THEN WE HAVE A COMPLETE ARTICLE THAT WE PRESENTED TO YOU LAST, UM, SECTION THREE. THIS TALKS ABOUT HOURS WORK AND WE PRESENTED ARTICLE FOR HOURS WORK. SO WE HOLD OFF ON THAT ONE UNTIL WE FIGURE OUT WHAT WE FOUR IS GOOD. SO CONFUSING. SEE THAT WAS MY STRATEGY WAS TO YOU ALL THE PAPER. PAPER ART OH FIVE WE'RE GOOD. I STOLE, UH, ARTICLE 6, 2, 3, PAIN 54, 5 5. BETTER CHEST PAIN. SO NEVERMIND. GOOD. THE ARTICLE SEVEN IS GOOD. 54. OH FIVE FIVE. SENDING MORE. WE HAVE ANOTHER SET OF SERVICE THAT IS GOOD. DO IT. 15 IS GOOD. [00:25:22] OH MAN, I, YOU KNOW WHO HANDLE THE, IT SEEMS LIKE AND 38 IT, UM, YEAH, WE'RE OKAY WITH THIS. UH, SAY FIREFIGHTERS, WE RIGHT. ASSUMPTION THAT ARTICLE TWO IS IN OH YEAH. YEAH. DURATION HAVE TO BE TALKED A LITTLE MORE. THREE, THREE YEAR. YEAH. AND WE'RE NOT OPPOSED TO A MULTIYEAR AT ALL. THAT'S NOT AN ISSUE. IT'S JUST WANNA MAKE SURE WE GET THE FULL PROPOSAL OUT, UM, BEFORE WE SIGN. SO IT'S, YOU WANNA ASK, ARE THE APPENDIXES, YOU DIDN'T BRING THOSE UP, THEY'RE STILL INVOLVED IN THIS CORRECT. APPENDIX A AND B, JUST WANNA MAKE SURE WE'RE STILL TALKING. YEAH, BECAUSE WELL APPENDIX A IS THE, IS THE PAY OH, OH YEAH, YEAH, YEAH, YEAH. THE APPENDIX B IS THE, UH, THE MERGER. MERGER STUFF. YEAH, I WAS GONNA SAY, SO WE WILL COME BACK WITH, UM, THE, OUR EMS MERGER, UM, LANGUAGE AND THE, THAT GOES WITH THAT. YES. OKAY. YEAH, THAT, THAT, THAT'S ONE THAT I'M LIKE NOT TOUCHING, JUST STICK THE SUCKER IN THERE. UM, YEAH. UH, AND THEN A COUPLE OF THE OTHER ONES, OBVIOUSLY THE COMPENSATION, RIGHT. UM, YEAH. AND THEY SAY HAVE BELIEVE MISSED THAT, SO YEAH, WE'RE NOT WORRIED. PUT THAT. OKAY. SO WE'RE GONNA PUT THAT WITH THAT. [00:30:01] OKAY. ALRIGHTY. UM, THEN WE'LL MOVE ON TO BUSINESS ITEM TWO C. [c. Consider setting the time and date for the next collective bargaining session. ] WE JUST GONNA SIT AND SAY THE TIME AND DATE FOR THE NEXT COLLECTIVE BARGAINING SECTION. SO WE DO HAVE ON THE CALENDAR JULY THE EIGHTH? YES. UM, AT, I BELIEVE IT WAS 10 30. I BELIEVE SO. YES. 10 30. YES. OKAY. SO WE WILL, WE'RE OKAY WITH THAT. ALRIGHT. WE ARE STILL GOOD WITH THAT AS WELL. SO WE WILL ALL NEXT WEEK. OKAY. WITH THAT WE WILL, OH, DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING? NO, I WAS GONNA SAY YOU'LL HAVE HAPPY 4TH OF JULY. YES. THAT WE'LL ADJOURN THE MEETING. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.