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OR I KNOW A COUPLE OF PEOPLE[1. CALL TO ORDER]
WEREN'T GONNA BE HERE TODAY.AND I THINK THAT'S 11 OF US HERE.
UH, FIRST OF ALL, I WANNA WELCOME EVERYBODY BACK AFTER TWO WEEKS.
I'M TELLING YOU I NEEDED A BREAK AFTER FOUR WEEKS IN A ROW.
I KNOW MISS THE SECOND ONE, BUT FOUR WEEKS IN A ROW, JUST KIND OF HAVING ALL THIS INFORMATION GIVEN TO US AND A LOT OF STUFF TO REVIEW.
AND HOPEFULLY YOU HAVE A LITTLE TIME TO REVIEW WHAT'S BEEN SENT TO YOU AND, AND AS WE GET STARTED TODAY, WE'LL, UH, WE'LL GET MORE INTO THE DETAILS ON THE REST OF THE PROJECTS.
[a. Discussion and possible action regarding the review and prioritization of potential General Obligation-funded bond projects.]
ASK YOU AT THIS POINT, HAVE YOU HAD ANYBODY TALK TO YOU, ASK YOU QUESTIONS, FAMILY, FRIENDS, NEIGHBORS, COWORKERS? HAS ANYONE SAID ANYTHING TO YOU, GIVEN ANY FEEDBACK ABOUT THE COMMITTEE? YOU'RE ON? ANYONE? I, I DON'T PUBLIC.I'VE HAD A FEW PEOPLE TALK ABOUT IT.
ANY, ANYTHING CONCERNING OR ANYTHING JUST, YEAH.
WELL, THAT'S, THERE'S ALWAYS THOSE PEOPLE.
MOST OF THE, MOST OF THE NEGATIVITY THAT I'VE RUN INTO HAS BEEN SPECIFICALLY AROUND PROJECT VECTOR.
BUT THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH US, WHICH, YOU KNOW, I'VE TRIED, TRIED TO EXPLAIN THAT.
AND OUR CHALLENGE IS GONNA BE TO SEPARATE THIS FROM EVERYTHING ELSE THAT'S BEEN GOING ON WITH THE CITY.
THIS IS, THIS IS VERY UNIQUE IN ITS SCOPE OF WORK.
THIS, THIS ISN'T ABOUT REALLY, MOST OF IT'S NOT ALL ABOUT ANY, ANYTHING NEW.
I THINK SOME OF THE PARKS AND THE WETLANDS AND ALL THAT NEW STUFF.
BUT MOST OF WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ARE EXISTING THOROUGHFARES THAT NEED TO BE UPGRADED, WIDENED, REPLACED, UH, STREETS, NEIGHBORHOODS THAT FLOOD, YOU KNOW, JUST DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENTS, UH, PARK ENHANCEMENTS FOR QUALITY OF LIFE.
SO IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE, WHEN YOU TALK, IS, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T WANT TO GET DEFENSIVE.
WHAT YOU WANT TO DO IS PROVIDE INFORMATION.
AND THAT'S WHY I'VE BEEN, WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO GET YOU ALL THE INFORMATION YOU COULD POSSIBLY HAVE TO EXPLAIN WHATEVER PROJECT SOMEONE MAY ASK ABOUT.
AND AS WE MOVE FARTHER, WE'RE GONNA, WE'RE GONNA HOPEFULLY BE GETTING SOME OF THIS INFORMATION OUT.
I KNOW THE BAYTOWN SUN, MATT, WHERE'S MATT? THERE'S MATT.
MATT'S BEEN DOING A GOOD JOB OF, OF KIND OF LETTING THE COMMUNITY KNOW HOW THIS PROCESS HAS BEEN GOING.
AND, UM, HOPEFULLY AS WE GET SOME MORE DETAILS OUT, THEY'LL BE ABLE TO COMMUNICATE SOME OF THE POSSIBLE PROJECTS THAT ARE OUT THERE.
AND HOPEFULLY THAT'LL STIR SOME, SOME, UH, FEEDBACK AND INPUT.
AND THERE'S NOTHING WRONG, NOTHING WRONG WITH, UH, WITH CRITICISM.
THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH CONCERN.
THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH, WE DON'T WANT IT.
THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT.
WE NEED, WE NEED TO KNOW ALL OF THAT OUT THERE.
UM, I THINK WHEN WE MOVE DOWN THE ROAD, WE'RE GONNA, WE'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO SHOW AS A COMMITTEE THAT, THAT WHATEVER WE PUT TOGETHER AS A RECOMMENDATION, IT'S WHAT WE BELIEVE WILL HELP THIS COMMUNITY, HELP EVERYONE IN THIS COMMUNITY.
AND SO, UH, ALL WE CAN DO AFTER THAT IS, IS BELIEVE WE'VE DONE EVERYTHING WE COULD POSSIBLY DO TO UNDERSTAND, TO AGREE WITH THE WORK THAT'S BEEN PROVIDED TO US, THE NEED OF THIS CITY, AND TO SEE HOW WE CAN MOVE FORWARD.
SO, UM, CONCERNS AND CRITICISM ARE IMPORTANT.
HELP US UNDERSTAND WHAT IT IS.
UH, THERE'S ALWAYS GONNA, PEOPLE WHO DON'T WANT ANYTHING, NOTHING, BUT THEY WANT TOILETS TO FLUSH YARDS, NOT TO, TO FLOOD.
AND THEY WANT THEIR STREETS SMOOTH, BUT THEY DON'T, BUT THEY DON'T WANNA PAY FOR IT, RIGHT? SO WE'RE ALWAYS GONNA HAVE THAT BALANCE OF THE NEED VERSUS WHERE THE MONEY COMES FROM.
AND IN THESE TYPE OF PROJECTS, THE MONEY COMES FROM GENERAL OBLIGATION BONDS.
THERE'S NOT ENOUGH TAX MONEY THAT'S PAID EVERY YEAR TO PAY FOR ALL THIS STUFF.
IT DOES A LOT, BUT DOESN'T PAY FOR ALL THIS.
SO, AGAIN, JUST, UH, IF YOU HAVE FRIENDS OR FAMILY, ASK THEM, HEY, HAVE YOU HEARD ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON? DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? RIGHT? WE NEED THAT FEEDBACK.
SO LAST MEETING WE HAD, UH, WE SPLIT INTO TWO GROUPS AND THE, UH, THE PARKS AND FACILITIES GROUP GOT THROUGH ALL THEIR PROJECTS PRETTY QUICKLY.
SO, UH, KEITH, I KNOW YOU WERE IN THAT ROOM.
THANKS FOR, UH, EXPEDITING ALL THAT CONVERSATION.
I HOPE Y'ALL HAD SOME GOOD QUESTIONS, GOOD ANSWERS.
YOU GOT A LOT OF GOOD INFORMATION TO START WITH.
THE, UH, STREETS, DRAINAGE AND SIDEWALKS TEAM, UH, WE, WE GOT A LITTLE HUNG UP.
WE GOT THROUGH ABOUT FOUR PROJECTS, I THINK WERE THERE 14 LEFT OR SOMETHING? SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
SO WE'RE NOT GONNA TAKE THREE OR FOUR MORE MEETINGS TO GO THROUGH THE REST OF 'EM.
SO WHAT YOU'VE BEEN GIVEN IS HOPEFULLY A LITTLE BIT MORE INFORMATION ON EACH OF THESE PROJECTS THAT WASN'T THERE BEFORE.
SO TODAY, WE'RE NOT GONNA BREAK UP INTO TWO GROUPS.
WE'RE JUST GONNA TAKE THESE PROJECTS ONE AT A TIME AND JUST BETTER UNDERSTAND THEM.
I'VE HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK THROUGH THESE VERY CLOSELY MYSELF.
UH, IF YOU DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I MIGHT THROW A QUESTION OUT THAT I HAD, BUT, YOU KNOW, JUST TAKE A LOOK AT, AT THE PROJECT.
I KNOW WE'RE LIMITED ON OUR MEETINGS, AND I KNOW WE WERE GONNA DO RANKING AND YOU DID AWAY WITH RANKING.
I THINK WE SHOULD HAVE TAKEN A VOTE BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE WE'RE JUST WASTING A LOT OF TIME ON ALL THE PROJECTS INSTEAD OF NARROWING WHAT WE NEED TO FOCUS ON AND TAKE A VOTE ON WHICH
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PROJECTS WE NEED AND RANK WHICH ONES ARE IMPORTANT TO WORK ON.ONLY THOSE INSTEAD OF WORKING AT THE HOPE PROJECT, BECAUSE IT'S TIME CONSUMING, AND, UH, I JUST THINK WE NEED TO TAKE A VOTE.
SO I HAVE A MOTION TO TAKE A VOTE ON THAT.
YOU HAVE A MOTION TO TAKE A VOTE ON WHETHER WE SHOULD RANK WITHOUT EVEN UNDERSTANDING WHAT THE PROJECTS ARE AND HOW THEY MAY BE IMPORTANT.
YOU'RE, YOU'RE RIGHT, WE DO NEED MORE INFORMATION, BUT I DO THINK THAT THE RANKING THING IS, COULD BE SOMEWHAT BENEFICIAL.
IT, IT'S GOING, WE'RE GETTING THERE REAL CLOSE.
BUT, BUT IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT DOING IT RIGHT NOW, TODAY BEFORE DISCUSSING THE REST OF THE PROJECT, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
IS THAT A SECOND? NO, NO SECOND.
SO HOW MANY MORE MEETINGS ARE WE GONNA HAVE? UH, WE'LL SEE.
ALRIGHT, SO, WELL, WHAT I WANNA SHOW YOU IS A POWERPOINT.
CAN, CAN YOU GET THAT POWERPOINT UP AS WE MOVE FORWARD? UH, WHAT, WHAT THE CITY HAS DONE IS TO HELP US BEGIN TO FOCUS ON THESE PROJECTS INTO CATEGORIES TO HELP US BETTER UNDERSTAND HOW WE'RE GONNA RANK EVERYTHING AGAINST EACH OTHER.
WE'VE GOT SOME CATEGORIES TO LOOK AT.
SO LET'S GO AHEAD AND GO TO THE NEXT SCREEN.
SO ALL THESE PROJECTS FIT INTO ONE OF THESE FIVE CATEGORIES, THOROUGH AFFAIRS, NEIGHBORHOOD, STREET, SIDEWALKS AND TRAFFIC.
THEY SOUND THE SAME, BUT THEY'RE NOT DRAINAGE FACILITIES AND PARKS.
SO THE NEXT SLIDE'S GONNA SHOW US WHAT PROJECTS FALL INTO THE THOROUGH AFFAIRS.
THESE ARE TYPICALLY THE LARGER ROADS, THE LARGER TRAFFIC FLOW ROADS, THE MOBILITY, SAFETY ISSUES.
UH, IF YOU LOOKED AT ANY OF THESE PROJECTS, YOU'LL SEE THAT THEY'RE, THEY'RE, UH, USED A LOT, RIGHT? I MEAN, THEY'RE, YOU CAN SEE WHERE THEY'RE AT IN THE CITY AND, AND WHAT THE PROJECT IS TRYING TO DO.
THE NEXT GROUP IS GONNA BE NEIGHBORHOOD STREETS AND SIDEWALKS.
AND AGAIN, THIS IS MORE FOCUSED INTO THE NEIGHBORHOODS, RIGHT? SOME OF THESE OTHER STREETS WENT THROUGH NEIGHBORHOODS, BUT THEY'RE GOING FROM DECKER TO MAINE, RIGHT? DECKER TO MAINE.
THAT'S A KIND OF A THOROUGHFARE.
SO THE ANNUAL RENEWAL, THAT'S JUST ALL OVER THE CITY.
WE'VE SEEN THAT LIST OF STREETS TO LANTERN PARK IS SPECIFIC TO ONE SUBDIVISION.
THE AD IMPROVEMENTS ARE ALL THE SIDEWALK, UH, UH, RAMP, UH, IMPROVEMENTS THROUGHOUT THE CITY.
EL CHACO IS OVER IN, UH, UH, PINEHURST, AND THEN THE NORTH ALEXANDER TRAFFIC SIGNALS.
SO THE NEXT GROUP WERE DRAINAGE, UH, AGAIN, THESE FIVE DRAINAGE PROJECTS, IF YOU LOOKED AT 'EM, BUT WE'RE GONNA TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE IN DETAIL TODAY.
THEY'RE ALL ABOUT TRYING TO KEEP NEIGHBORHOODS, STREETS FROM FLOODING.
AND THEN THE NEXT GROUP WILL BE FACILITIES, FIRE STATION AND LIBRARY.
AND THEN THE NEXT GROUP WILL BE PARKS.
WE MAY TAKE THE WETLAND AND ARBORETUM PROJECT AND MOVE IT TO THE OTHER ONE BECAUSE IT IS MORE OF A BUILDING CONSTRUCTION, WHEREAS THE NATURE CENTER ENHANCEMENT WAS JUST THE NATURE CENTER ITSELF, AND BOARDWALKS AND PLATFORMS AND ALL THAT.
BUT IN ANY CASE, THIS IS WHERE, THIS IS HOW MANY OF THE, THE PROJECTS ARE IN THE, THE PARKS AREA.
SO WE ALREADY, WE ALREADY DROPPED BAY.
WHAT BAY OAKS? HARBOR BAY OAKS IS IN THE, UH, IT'S PART OF, IT'S IN THAT LANTERN PARK.
IT'S THE SOUTH CIRCLE AND BAY OAKS HARBOR, THOSE THREE SCOPES OF WORK ALL IN THAT ONE PROJECT.
SO, UM, AS WE GO THROUGH THIS, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE NEED TO DECIDE PHILOSOPHICALLY WHEN WE BEGIN TO, TO RANK AND SORT OF COME UP WITH A RECOMMENDATION IS ARE, ARE WE GONNA PIT EVERYTHING AGAINST ITSELF? OR ARE WE GONNA PRIORITIZE SOME OF THE DRAINAGE, SOME OF THE THOROUGHFARES, SOME OF THE PARKS? OR ARE WE JUST FOCUSING ON ALL JUST STREETS? YOU KNOW, WE, WE WILL, WE WILL HAVE THAT CONVERSATION, WHICH WILL HELP US, UH, FIGURE OUT WHAT THE PRIORITIES WILL BE.
AND I THINK AFTER WE GET THROUGH ALL THESE, THESE, UH, SCOPES OF, OF PROJECTS, WE'LL BE ABLE TO SAY, YOU KNOW, THIS, THESE PROJECTS ARE ABOUT SAFETY AND MOBILITY AND KEEPING STREETS FLOODING AND ALL THAT.
AND, AND THEN WE CAN SAY, BUT, YOU KNOW, PARKS ARE IMPORTANT.
WE'VE GOT KIDS PLAYING OUT THERE ALL THE TIME.
PEOPLE PARKING ON THE SIDE OF THE STREET, HALFWAY IN DITCHES BLOCKING DRIVEWAYS.
AND SO, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO DECIDE THE PRIORITIES WE BELIEVE WE WANT TO BRING TO CITY COUNCIL AND, AND SEE IF THEY, THEY AGREE WITH THOSE PRIORITIES.
SO, ANYWAY, SO AT THIS POINT, UM, YEAH, I'M FINISHED WITH THAT.
DO YOU HAVE THIS ON POWERPOINT? THIS, THIS UP THERE? THESE, LEMME LEMME BRING IT UP.
SO WE LEFT OFF, I THINK WITH THE, UM, YES.
ONCE WE DECIDE WHAT WE WANNA FOCUS ON, ARE WE GONNA VISIT OR IS THAT A BEFORE AND AFTER? OR IS THAT ON THE TABLE AT ALL? NO, WE'RE, WE'RE GONNA, IF WE HAVE SOME THINGS WE WANT TO VISIT, WE'LL WE'LL GET A LIST OF THOSE AND WE'LL, WE'LL PUT THAT ON THERE BEFORE WE FINALIZE.
GIMME AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT YOU MIGHT WANNA VISIT.
FOR EXAMPLE, I KNOW I'VE VISITED AT CHUCKLE BEFORE.
AND IT'S BEEN A MINUTE, BUT I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT EXACTLY WHAT
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IS NEEDED FROM THE STREET.I'M JUST TRYING TO THINK, IS IT SOMETHING TO DO WITH, IS IT A SPECIFIC SPOT? BECAUSE I SEE THE WHOLE STREET BEING DONE.
IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE THE WHOLE STREET.
IT'S NOT THAT TERRIBLE, BUT AGAIN, IT'S BEEN A MINUTE OR TWO.
SO WE'LL LOOK AT THE, THE, THE DETAILS IN HERE.
SEE IF ANY OF THOSE QUESTIONS ARE ANSWERED.
AND IF THEY'RE NOT, THEN WE'LL, WE'LL SCHEDULE SOME, SOME TOURS.
I THINK WE WRAPPED UP WITH THE LANTERN PARK.
SO DID WE TALK ABOUT, DID Y'ALL TALK ABOUT GARTH ROAD RECONSTRUCTION? PHASE F? YES, WE WERE ON NUMBER FIVE.
WAS THAT NUMBER FIVE OR WHAT'S THAT? SHOULD HAVE, I SHOULDA HAVE BOOKMARKED THIS SAME, BUT I'LL WROTE IT DOWN.
SIDEWALK CONSTRUCTION, SPACE F IS THAT STOP? SO YOU DID TALK ABOUT IT, OR NO? WE DID.
SO THIS, THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT IS A CONTINUATION OF GARTH ROAD FROM I 10 ALL THE WAY DOWN TO HIGHWAY 1 46.
AND THIS IS THE SOUTHERN END OF IT.
IF YOU LOOK AT THIS SCOPE OF WORK, IT'S PARTICULARLY JUST FOR DESIGN AND LAND ACQUISITION.
THERE'S NO POTENTIAL GRANT FUNDING YET.
UM, IT IS THE LAST PHASE OF THE WHOLE GARTH ROAD PROJECT.
SO IF YOU READ, UH, THE, THE DETAILS, THIS DOES SAY THAT THIS SECTION IS, IS NOT PROPOSED TO BE WIDENED RIGHT.
UH, THEY, THEY TALK ABOUT WHY, WHICH, WHICH WAS NEW INFORMATION.
SO THIS SCOPE OF WORK IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN ALL THE OTHER GARTH ROAD SCOPE THAT WE LOOKED AT BEFORE, WHERE IT INCLUDED WIDENING THE THREE LANES BOTH WAYS.
UH, I GUESS A CENTER MEDIAN, UH, THIS ONE IS CONTINUING THE, THE RENOVATION OF GARTH ROAD FROM BAKER ALL THE WAY TO 1 46 TO THE SOUTH, BUT DOES NOT WIDEN THE ROAD.
SO IT DOES TALK ABOUT HERE WHAT IT, WHAT IT'S DOING IS, UH, RIGHT AWAY THERE'S NO DESIGN OR RIGHT AWAY ACQUISITION HAS BEEN FUNDED.
UM, AND SO THIS $2.1 MILLION IS JUST FOR DESIGN AND LAND ACQUISITION FOR A FUTURE CONSTRUCTION PROJECT.
AND THERE ARE SEVERAL OF THESE.
THIS IS WHERE WE NEED TO, WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE'RE GONNA PRIORITIZE THESE TYPE OF JOBS BECAUSE THEY'RE NEEDED FOR FUTURE.
AND YOU GOTTA DO THIS STUFF UP FRONT TO GET THE FUTURE CONSTRUCTION.
ALL THE GARTH ROAD PROJECT IS, YOU KNOW, DESIGN WAS DONE.
THERE'S GRANTS, YOU GOT, YOU GOT GRANT READY PROJECTS, YOU KNOW, TO GO AND YOU, AND YOU'RE MORE LIKELY TO GET GRANT FUNDING.
I KNOW I MISSED THE LAST MEETING, SO MAYBE THAT'S WHERE I WAS COVERED.
THAT'S, BUT DID THEY SAY WHY IT WOULDN'T BE A CONTINUATION OR, 'CAUSE THERE'S, SO IF YOU KNOW GARTH ROAD IN THAT SEGMENT, THERE'S RESIDENTIAL HOUSES MM-HMM
UM, AND COMMERCIAL ON THE, ON THE WEST SIDE, IF WE WIDEN THE ROADWAY, WE WOULD HAVE TO CONDEMN ALL THE HOUSES ALONG GARTH ROAD THERE AND BASICALLY JUST LEVEL.
SO WE WOULD HAVE TO BUY OUT ALL THOSE HOUSES AND RELOCATE THOSE PEOPLE.
WE DIDN'T, I KNOW AS CITY STAFF, WE DIDN'T THINK THAT WAS REALLY A FEASIBLE OPTION.
IT WASN'T WORTH, YOU KNOW, GETTING AND YOU DON'T HAVE AS MUCH TRAFFIC, YOU KNOW, SOUTH OF BAKER AS YOU DO NORTH OF BAKER.
SO THOSE THINGS, SO, UM, THE CITY'S PAYING 20, I NOTICED FROM THE LAST, UH, MEETING, CITY'S PAYING 20% OF THE CONSTRUCTION DESIGN.
SO IS THE CITY GONNA BE PAYING 20% OF THE CONSTRUCTION DESIGN ON F WELL, UM, SO IT IS A STATE.
I THINK WHAT WE ASSUMED IS THAT THE CITY WOULD PAY A HUNDRED PERCENT OF THE DESIGN COSTS.
THAT THAT'S WHAT THE 2.1 MILLION INCLUDES.
AND THEN THAT WOULD BE PRIOR TO RECEIVING ANY GRANT FUNDS.
SO WE HAVEN'T, YOU KNOW, GOTTEN THE GRANT AND, YOU KNOW, DOING THE DESIGN GETS US READY IN LINE TO, YOU KNOW, BE MORE COMPETITIVE FOR THE GRANT.
SO THE 20%, IT'S REFERENCE TO INSTRUCTION.
AND THAT'S ONE THING THAT GILBERT ASKED THAT, UH, APOLOGIZE BEING MAKING THE PACKAGE.
BUT, SO THIS IS FOR DESIGNING CONSTRUC OR DESIGNING LAND ACQUISITION, 2.1 MILLION.
WE'RE CURRENTLY ESTIMATING, UM, CONSTRUCTION COSTS TO BE AT 13.8 MILLION.
UH, WHICH IS NOT INCLUDED IN THE BOND PACKAGE, BUT THAT IS SOMETHING THAT YOU THINK 20% GRANT MATCH THE CITY WOULD EVENTUALLY HAVE TO INHERIT THAT IF THIS PROJECT MOVES FORWARD, UM, AT SOME POINT.
SO THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, THAT, THAT I ASKED FOR WAS WHAT WAS THE TOTAL COST OF THIS PROJECT? WE KNOW HOW MUCH WE'RE INVESTING UP FRONT AND WHAT GRANT MONEY MIGHT BE REQUIRED DOWN THE ROAD THAT, 'CAUSE ALL OF THOSE HAVE BEEN BROKEN OUT THAT WAY.
HOW MUCH WAS FUNDED BY GRANT AND HOW MUCH
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WAS, UH, CITY? SO THIS ONE HASN'T EVEN APPLIED FOR A GRANT? NO, NO IT HASN'T.I THINK, I THINK APPLICATION FOR GRANTS TYPICALLY HAPPEN WHEN YOU HAVE SOMETHING READY TO PRESENT.
RIGHT? IT, UH, YOU CAN DO IT BOTH WAYS.
UH, UH, I THINK I WENT OVER THIS IN THE FIRST MEETING.
UM, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A TIMELINE AND IF YOU APPLY FOR THE GRANT BEFORE YOU START DESIGN, UH, AND YOU RECEIVE IT, YOU GENERALLY ONLY HAVE A, YOU KNOW, A LIMITED AMOUNT OF TIME FOR THE GRANT FUNDS TO BE FULLY EXPEND.
AND SO THAT PUTS YOU IN A BIND, UH, HAVING TO DO THE DESIGN THE RIGHT OF WAY, ACQUISITION AND CONSTRUCTION, ALL WITHIN THE LIMITED TIMELINE OF THE GRANT.
AND SO IF YOU DO THE DESIGN FIRST, YOU NOT ONLY, YOU KNOW, ARE IN BETTER SHAPE TO MEET THE DEADLINE, BUT YOU'RE ALSO MORE COMPETITIVE WHEN IT COMES TO THE GRANT.
'CAUSE YOU HAVE A REALLY GOOD IDEA OF THE COST ONCE YOU GO THROUGH THE DESIGN.
UH, AND IT SHOWS THAT YOU MADE THAT COMMITMENT.
AND, YOU KNOW, UH, A LOT OF GRANTS, THEY, THEY LIKE TO SEE SHOVEL RUNNING PROJECTS.
BUT, YOU KNOW, THAT WAS THE BIG THING.
SO AS WE BEGIN COMPARING THIS PROJECT AGAINST EVERYTHING ELSE, WE'LL HAVE TO DECIDE WHETHER WE THINK THAT PREPARING FOR THAT NEXT SECTION IN OUR THROATS IMPORTANT OR NOT.
UH, EVEN THOUGH IT'S 2.5 MILLION, IT'S STILL A LOT OF MONEY AND IT'S GETS INTO OTHER THINGS.
SO ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THIS ONE? DO WE HAVE, THERE'S ONLY SIX PROJECTS THAT YOU'RE PROPOSING THAT, THAT WE'RE PROPOSING TO GET GRANT MONEY ON.
WE'VE NOT BEEN, NONE OF THESE HAVE ACTUALLY BEEN, HAVE GRANTED GRANT MONEY.
IS THAT CORRECT? UM, SO I NEED TO GO THROUGH THE LIST TO MAKE SURE THAT'S TRUE.
GOING ROW CEDAR BAY VALLEY, LYNCHBURG WIDENING, WEST BAYTOWN DRAINAGE.
UM, GARTH ROAD, STATE, CD AND E MR. GRANT.
UM, THAT ONE IS NOT, IT'S NOT CURRENTLY FUNDED, UH, FOR GRANT, BUT YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND HOW THE TRANSPORTATION IMPROVEMENTS PROGRAM WORKS.
SO YOU WANNA GIVE US A PROBABILITY? UH, THAT ONE'S, I WOULD SAY IT'S PRETTY HIGH PROBABILITY.
UM, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW IF I WANNA PUT A PERCENTAGE ON IT, BUT MORE, I WOULD SAY MORE THAN 50% GETTING A GRANT.
THEY FUNDED THE A AND B SECTIONS ALREADY.
AND, AND ORIGINALLY WHEN IT WAS, YOU KNOW, GARTH WORK WAS APPROVED, THE PROJECT WAS I 10 TO 1 46.
UM, WE HAD TO CUT IT DOWN TO JUST I 10 TO ARCHER BECAUSE OF A
THE GRANT COULDN'T HAVE DONE, YOU KNOW, THE WHOLE STRETCH OF ROAD.
SO THEY'VE ALREADY APPROVED THE WHOLE, UH, SECTION OF GARTH ROAD AS A PROJECT.
UH, WE JUST HAD TO CUT IT DOWN SO THAT THAT AND ENVIRONMENTAL CLEARANCE WAS DONE FOR THE WHOLE STRETCH.
AND THAT FUNDING IS FROM WHO? THE SO IT, IT'S, UH, THE TRANSPORTATION IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM STATE? IT'S FEDERAL FUNDS.
STATE MATTERS ADMINISTERED, UM, IT'S ALLOCATED BY HOUSTON GALVESTON AREA COUNCIL, WHICH IS OUR METROPOLITAN PLANNING AUTHORITY, UM, OR ORGANIZATION.
AND TXDOT ADMINISTERS THE FUNDS.
SO HJC, YOU KNOW, BASICALLY GIVES YOU GRANT AND THEN YOU GO THROUGH TECH.TO COMPLY, BUT IT'S FEDERAL FUNDS A LITTLE BIT COMPLICATED.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON, I THINK THAT FINISHES UP THE GARTH ROAD, UH, PROJECTS.
YEAH, BUT I THINK THE QUESTION WAS WHICH ONES HAVE GRANT? SO GARTH YEAH.
DOES, UM, CEDAR VALLEY LYNCHBURG, THAT, THAT IS A, I WOULD SAY IT'S A GRANT, IT'S A PARTNERSHIP WITH HARRIS COUNTY.
AND HARRIS COUNTY HAS AGREED TO PAY 50%.
THAT'S COMING OUTTA THEIR MOBILITY FUNDS.
DO YOU KNOW? UM, I I'M NOT SURE I THEY HAVE AGREED TO IT OR WHERE THE FUNDS ARE COMING FROM.
SO THEY, THEY'VE AGREED TO IT.
THEY'VE ALREADY STARTED DESIGN OKAY.
SO THEY'RE, THEY'RE LEADING THE PROJECT.
UH, I JUST, I DON'T KNOW WHERE THEIR FUNDS ARE COMING FROM.
WELL IT'S, BUT THEY, THEY'RE LEADING THE PROJECT.
WE'RE JUST ON, WE'RE THE, WE'RE THE, WE'RE THE PARTNER ON THIS ONE.
WE'RE THROWING SOME MONEY IN TO GET IT DONE.
HARRIS COUNTY PASSED A, A BOND IN 21 AND IT HAD SEVERAL THINGS, BUT ONE OF THE CATEGORIES WAS MOBILITY AND THEY CARVED OUT PARTNERSHIP PROJECTS OUT OF THAT, THAT POT OF MONEY.
SO THAT WAS MY QUESTION BECAUSE RIGHT NOW THE MOBILITY MONEY THAT THEY'RE GETTING OFF THE, TO LOAD AUTHORITY IS UNDER FIRE IN THE STATE LEGISLATOR.
AND THAT MAY GET YANKED THAT UNDER THEIR FEET THIS WEEK.
YEAH, BUT THIS IS COMING OUTTA THE BOND MONEY THAT THEY ALREADY PASSED.
THERE, THERE IS A RISK IN THAT, LOOKING AT THE OTHER THOROUGHFARE.
NONE OF THESE OTHER ONES HAVE GRANT FUNDS.
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UM, NOW LAND PARK, UH, I SAID LAST TIME THAT ONE WAS VERY RECENTLY APPROVED AS A, UH, PARTNERSHIP PROJECT WITH HARRIS COUNTY.SO THAT, THAT DOES HAVE SOME FUNDING.
UM, NONE OF THE OTHER ONES ON THE LIST HERE DO, AND, UM, LET'S PAY DOWN.
SO HOW MUCH OF LAND PARK ARE WE IN THE HOT PARK? IT'S NOT ON THE LIST FOR GRANT.
WE GOT, UH, SO HARRIS COUNTY COMMITTED, UH, I THINK $4.2 MILLION THAT'S ON THIS, UH, THIS ONE.
$4.395 MILLION AND BOND IS SIX.
YOU GOT CUT DOWN FROM THE FIRST.
SO, UM, JUST WEST, WEST BAYTOWN, PHASE TWO AND THREE GRANTS.
WE RECENTLY APPLIED FOR A GRANT ON THIS PROJECT.
UM, WE SHOULD FIND OUT IN THE NEXT COUPLE MONTHS IF WE RECEIVE THAT GRANT.
AND WHICH ONE WAS THAT ONE, SIR? THAT'S WEST BAYTOWN PHASE TWO AND THREE.
UM, THE OTHER ONE ON THIS LIST, YOU FEEL HAVE NOT APPLIED PROBABILITY ON THAT DRAINAGE IS GONNA BE PRETTY HIGH.
I THINK WE HAVE A, A GOOD CHANCE OF THAT, THAT THAT ONE WAS A FEDERAL GRANT AND, UM, THAT AREA IS CONSIDERED LOW INCOME AND WE, YOU GET CERTAIN POINTS FOR CERTAIN CRITERIA THAT YOU MEET.
AND SO I THINK WE WERE GETTING OVER 70 POINTS.
UH, AND YOU KNOW, THAT, I THINK THAT GAVE US A GOOD CHANCE OF GETTING THAT, THAT, UH, GRANT THE REST ON THE LIST FOR DRAINAGE DO NOT HAVE ANY CURRENT, UH, GRANTS IDENTIFIED.
UH, SAME THING, THE FACILITIES AND THE PARKS.
UM, I DON'T, I DON'T THINK ANY OF THESE PARK HAVE.
LET'S MOVE THE SIDEWALK AND PEDESTRIAN CROSSING A DA IMPROVEMENTS.
UH, THIS, THIS PROJECT IS PART OF A LONG TERM EFFORT TO JUST IMPROVE, UH, A DA COMPLIANCE THROUGHOUT THE CITY.
TALKING TO FRANK, THIS IS ABOUT A, I THINK PAGE TWO WILL TELL YOU IT'S ABOUT A $23.6 MILLION OF DEFICIENCIES.
I ASKED HIM, WHERE ARE WE IN THAT? AND HE SAID, WE'RE AT THE FRONT END OF IT.
SO WE'RE NOT HALFWAY, WE'RE NOT AT THE BACK END.
SO THIS IS SIMPLY COMMITTING ABOUT $500,000 A YEAR FOR FIVE YEARS TO CONTINUE IMPROVING THE CITY'S A DA COMPLIANCE.
THE CITY, UM, JUST RECENTLY COMPLETED THE ASSESSMENT, UH, PHASE OF, YOU KNOW, WHAT NEEDED TO BE DONE, IDENTIFYING THE WORK.
SO WE HIRED A CONSULTANT AND THEY LITERALLY, YOU KNOW, WROTE A MACHINE OVER EVERY SIDEWALK TO MEASURE, YOU KNOW, IF IT HAD ANY GAPS, WHAT KIND OF SLOPE IT HAD, UH, THE RAMPS.
SO, UM, WE, WE TOOK SOME TIME TO DO AN INVENTORY AND, UH, ASSESSMENT ALL THE INFRASTRUCTURE.
SO PAGE TWO WILL TELL YOU THE BREAKDOWN ON COST ASSOCIATED WITH EACH DIFFERENT PART OF THIS TYPE OF WORK.
AND AGAIN, THIS IS, THIS IS $500,000 A YEAR FOR FIVE YEARS TO CONTINUALLY IMPROVE ALL THE DEFICIENCIES THAT, THAT THEY FOUND.
AND I THINK, LIKE YOU SAID, THIS IS REQUIRED BY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT TO HAVE A PLAN IN PLACE.
AND AS LONG AS YOU'RE MAKING PROGRESS, YOU HAVE TO SHOW PROGRESS.
SO, YOU KNOW, STAFF RECOMMENDED 500,000 A YEAR.
YOU MAY WANT TO RECOMMEND MORE OR RECOMMEND LESS, BUT, UH, THE CITY HAS TO, YOU KNOW, UNDER A DA SHOW THAT WE'RE MAKING PROGRESS IN.
IS THERE ANY FUNDING FROM THE STATE ON THIS SINCE THE AADA A IS, UH,
I MEAN, WE DON'T HAVE ANY GRANTS.
SO THERE IS A COMPLIANCE ISSUE.
IF WE DON'T DO ANYTHING, THEN WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING.
I MEAN, I JUST, OR WHAT? I MEAN, DO THEY FINE YOU OKAY? OKAY.
THEY CAN FINE YOU OR NOT APPROVE GRANTS, THE EDUCATION AS WELL.
SO, UH, I MEAN, AND WE ALL HAVE TO UNDERSTAND AADA, WE'RE AN OLD CITY, BUT AADA A COMPLIANCE IS GOING ON EVERYWHERE.
UH, WE, WE'VE DONE THE SAME THING AT LEE COLLEGE.
WE'RE RIGHT NOW GOING THROUGH $4 MILLION OF A DA COMPLIANCE AND, AND, AND SAFETY ISSUES THAT SAME THINGS.
SIDEWALKS, CURBS, RAMPS, YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING THAT, THAT'S REQUIRED.
SO, OH, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? YOU BETTER UNDERSTAND THAT 2.5, WHAT THAT'S FOR.
I THINK, UH, BRI HAD, UH, SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT.
SO, UH, HERE AGAIN, THERE'S, THERE'S NOT A LOT OF DESCRIPTION HERE.
UM, I DID HAVE SOME QUESTIONS.
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GUYS, LEMME SEE IF I HAVE A COPY HERE JUST TO THROW SOME IDEAS OUT AT YOU.UM, SO I, I WOULD JUST ADD, UM, CHARCO STERLING BEEF AND LOBIT, THOSE ARE ALL ASPHALT STREETS.
THEY'RE VERY SIMILAR IN SCOPE TO THE, UH, PROJECT WE HAVE FOR ANNUAL ASPHALT STREET REHAB.
IT'S JUST THAT THOSE ARE LARGER STREETS AND, UH, CARRY MORE TRAFFIC.
SO, UH, WE KIND OF BROKE THEM OUT INDIVIDUALLY AS THEIR OWN PROJECTS BECAUSE THEY WERE A LITTLE BIT BIGGER.
BUT IT'S VERY SIMILAR TO THAT RENEWAL OF THE ASPHALT STREET.
SO THIS, I THINK ONE OF THE QUESTIONS I ASKED WAS THERE CURRENTLY NO SIDEWALKS ON EL CHACO.
ANY PLANS TO, WE WE DO NOT HAVE PLANS, HAVE DITCHES THERE, UH, BECAUSE OF THE DITCHES.
SO THIS IS JUST STREET RECONSTRUCTION AND EVERYTHING THAT'S UNDER THE STREET UTILITY WISE, CORRECT? CORRECT.
WHAT'S, WHAT'S UNDER THERE? WATER OR SEWER? UM, IT'LL BE WATER, STORM WATER, SEWER AND ANY STORM RANGE IMPROVE MUCH.
SO ALL THAT'S PART OF THE $6.5 MILLION.
AND THE LENGTH OF THIS STREET WAS 0.99 TENTHS OF A MILE IS WHAT YOU GOT ON HERE.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE WE CAN TALK ABOUT ON THIS.
THIS ONE, IT'S A, UH, PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD TWO LANE ENTRANCE FROM 1 46 ALL THE WAY TO THE END OF PINEHURST.
UM, ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS ONE? SO HE'S STATING THAT IT'S WITH THE
SO ASPHALT, WHY ISN'T IT ON THE ASPHALT? WELL, AS I WAS SAYING, WE BROKE OUT A FEW OF THE STREETS THAT WERE BIGGER.
UM, JUST LARGER DOLLAR AMOUNTS TO CONSIDER THOSE INDIVIDUALLY SAY THAT, UH, THE ONES YOU SEE ON THE ANNUAL ASPHALT, UH, REHAB OR SMALLER SEGMENTS, SMALLER STREETS THAT WE CAN GROUP TOGETHER AND AND DO LIKE, UH, A PACKAGE.
YOU SAID IT HAD STORM WATER DRAIN IMPROVEMENTS TOO AS PART OF THE PROJECT.
UM, SO I, I DON'T THINK THAT ONE HAS, I, I'LL ASK.
BASICALLY CROSSOVERS, UH, EVERYTHING'S FED TO DITCHES.
IT DOES HAVE A FEW CROSSOVERS ON IT.
THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS I LOOKED AT DURING NO SIDEWALKS.
SO BY THESE THREE PROJECTS ARE ADDING OR IMPROVING SIDEWALKS.
AND THIS DOESN'T HAVE ANY, BUT YOU'D HAVE TO COVER THE WHOLE STORM.
YOU WOULD HAVE THE DITCHES BOX IT ALL IN.
THAT'D BE A HUGE, SO THIS IS JUST LIKE MARCUS SAID, KIND OF A STREET RECONSTRUCTION PROJECT, BUT BIG ENOUGH TO BE ITS OWN PROJECT.
BECAUSE YOU CAN'T, IT IS HARD TO SECTION THIS, THIS STREET UP.
AND SO THIS IS FULL DEPTH PAVEMENT REPLACEMENT, RIGHT? ALL THE WAY DOWN THAT WE TALKED ABOUT DOWN TO DIRT, START OVER AND BUILD A ROAD UP, RIGHT? YES.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM ANYONE? OKAY.
UH, THESE NEXT FEW ARE SIMILAR WEST STERLING AVENUE.
THIS IS GOING FROM, UH, BASICALLY NORTH MAIN STREET ALL THE WAY TO DECKER DRIVE.
SO THIS IS THE ONE WAY STREET THAT RUNS FROM EAST TO WEST.
EVERYBODY FAMILIAR WITH WHERE IT IS? SO HERE AGAIN, UH, THIS PROJECT'S A LITTLE UNDER $2.8 MILLION.
AND AGAIN, SOME OF THE QUESTIONS I ASKED THAT WERE JUST DETAILS THAT WEREN'T INCLUDED WERE ABOUT SIDEWALK REPLACEMENTS AND, YOU KNOW, ALL YOU GOT ALL THE STORM SEWER, WATER LINES, SANITARY SEWER LINES, EVERYTHING THAT'S UNDERNEATH ASSOCIATED WITH THAT STREET GETS REPLACED.
UM, WHATEVER IMPROVEMENTS ARE NEEDED, THIS ONE HAS SIDEWALK.
IT LOOKED LIKE SOME OF THE STREET HAD SIDEWALKS ON ONE SIDE OR THE OTHER SIDE, OR BOTH SIDES.
I DUNNO IF THERE WERE NO SIDES OF SIDEWALKS, BUT I KNOW FROM NORTH MAIN TO, TO DECKER WAS A COMBINATION.
SO IF IT'S THERE, IT NEEDS TO BE REPAIRED, YOU'LL FIX IT.
IF IT'S NOT THERE, WE'RE NOT ADDING MORE.
UM, IT, IT DEPENDS IF IT'S, IF WE HAVE THE RIGHT OF WAY TO DO IT AND YOU KNOW, IT'S UM, SOMETHING EASY TO DO, THEN OKAY.
YEAH, THIS, THAT A 16 INCH WATER LINE, IS THAT, THAT'S LIKE A MAIN FEEDER FOR THAT WHOLE AREA OR SOMETHING? THAT'S A BIG WATER ON IT.
EVERYBODY CLEAR ON THIS NEW ROAD FROM MAN TO DECKER? ANY QUESTIONS? OKAY, THE NEXT ONE IS WEST DEFE.
THIS IS THE KIND OF THE, THE TWIN TO, TO STERLING.
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THE TWIN COSTS MORE MONEY AND I WAS WONDERING WHY IT COSTS MORE MONEY.UM, LIKE A COUPLE MILLION DOLLARS MORE.
IS IT TWICE AS LONG? NO, YOU KNOW, SO IT'S TWICE AS LONG.
WELL IT'S, IT SAYS YEAH, THIS ONE DOES SAY IT'S 0.64.
THE OTHER ONE SAID IT WAS 0.32.
BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THE MAP, THEY GO FROM THE SAME POINT TO THE SAME POINT WITH STERLING ACTUALLY BEING A LITTLE LONGER THAN THIS ONE.
SO THAT, THAT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE THAT IT'S TWICE AS LONG.
YEAH, BECAUSE THEY'RE FIXING THE, UH, SIDEWALKS ON THIS ONE.
NO, IT'S GOT THE LENGTH TO STREET.
I DIDN'T, I DIDN'T SEE THIS UNTIL THIS UPDATE OR I WOULD'VE POINTED THAT OUT, BUT YEAH, DEEP IS 0.64 MILES AND STERLING IS 0.32.
THERE'S NO WAY IT'S TWICE AS LONG.
IN FACT, LIKE I SAID, DP IS ACTUALLY SHORTER THAN DISTURBING.
SO WE NEED, WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT, AGAIN, MY, MY QUESTION WAS WHY IS IT $2 MILLION MORE THAN THE STREET THAT LOOKS JUST LIKE IT DIDN'T MAKE SENSE.
I THINK WE HAD A THAT WAS A FUNNY LOOK INITIALLY WE HAD THE WRONG STROLLING IN THERE AND WE MIGHT HAVE CARRIED OVER.
SO YOU NEED TO SEE WHETHER THIS IS RIGHT STERLING IN THERE.
THIS IS THE RIGHT STERLING, BUT I THINK THE LENGTH WAS THE OLDSTER, THE OTHER STERLING.
OKAY, SO, SO LENGTH OF STERLING IS PROBABLY MORE THAN 0.32, RIGHT? SO WE PROBABLY, OKAY, BUT THEN WE STILL HAVE THIS ONE.
IT'S ABOUT $2 MILLION MORE THAN STERLING.
WHAT'S ONE? THERE HAS TO BE SOME MAJOR DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THAT BIG NO, IT WAS BASED ON THE LENGTH.
AND SO IF WE GOT THE LENGTH WRONG, ONCE WE CORRECT THE LENGTH, WE'LL HAVE TO UPDATE THE, SO STERLING'S GONNA BE CLOSER TO 4.7 THEN 2.7.
BUT YOU'RE NOT REPLACING A WATER LINE ON STERLING, RIGHT? NO.
BUT YOU ARE REPLACING A WATER LINE ON THIS ONE? WELL, UH, AGAIN, I'M GONNA CHECK TO SEE IF THAT WAS THE OTHER STREET THAT WE HAD.
BUT THAT'S A BIG DOLLAR THAT, THAT COULD BE SOME COST.
BUT THE LINK, THE STREET STILL NEEDS TO BE YEAH, CONFIRM.
OKAY, WELL LET'S SEE IF WE CAN GET THAT.
WE RETURN THE SAME THING, THE SEWER LINE AND EVERYTHING ON WEST ARLINGTON.
AND IT HAD SIMILAR SCOPES OF WORK, BUT THE 16 INCH WATERLINE WASN'T CALLED OUT.
IT DOES SAY WATERLINE, BUT IT DOESN'T SAY 16 INCH.
I WAS ASKING IF THE STARTING WATERLINE WAS SOME HUGE TRUNK LINE FOR THE WHOLE AREA, BUT THIS ONE DOES SAY STORM SEWER, WATERLINE, SANITARY SEWER SYSTEMS. I KNOW IT'S A TYPICAL SCOPE OF WORK, BUT WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE DEFINITION IS SPECIFIC TO THE PROJECT.
SO, SO THAT'S WE DPE DID ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT WES DEPE OTHER THAN THE IF STERLING THAT A REALLY HEAVY TRAVIS STRAIT? I DON'T GO DOWN THERE.
I STERLING AND I'M ON ALL THE TIME.
I TELL YOU WHAT, UM, FOLKS THAT, THAT TRAVEL FROM EAST TO WEST IN THAT PART OF TOWN WILL USE DEEP OR STURDY.
THEY'RE ONE WAYS, YOU KNOW, TWO LANES ONE WAY, TWO LANES THE OTHER WAY.
THE ONLY, THE ONLY PROBLEM IS ONCE YOU GET PAST NORTH MAIN, THE ROAD NARROWS AND PEOPLE ARE PARKING ON ONE SIDE AND IT'S SQUEEZED DOWN.
BUT THIS DOESN'T GO PAST NORTH MAIN TO THE EAST TEXAS AVENUE HAS, YOU WOULD THINK WOULD BE THE MAJOR THOROUGHFARE, BUT, UH, IT HAS MORE STOPS AND IT'S ONLY ONE LANE BOTH WAYS.
AND SO PE PEOPLE USE DP AND STERLING.
I, I'M IN THAT AREA, THAT'S WHERE MY OFFICE IS.
AND I, IT IT'S USED, I WISH AMBULANCES WOULD USE IT INSTEAD OF TEXAS AVENUE.
WOULDN'T BE SO LAUGHING OFFICE, BUT
WE, ANY, ANYTHING ELSE ON THE, UH, DP PROJECT? OKAY, SO THE NEXT ONE IS WEST LOBIT.
THIS ONE IS ANOTHER SIMILAR STREET.
THIS ONE IS LONGER THAN UH, STERLING IN DP.
UH, THIS ONE DOES SAY IT IS EIGHT 3.83.
SO IT'S A LITTLE LONGER THAN UH, STERLING.
YOU CAN SEE IT ALSO GOES FROM NORTH MAIN, UH, ALL THE WAY TO, UH, DECKER DRIVE.
NOW THE DIFFERENCE IN THAT STREET IS THAT IS MORE OF A NEIGHBORHOOD STREET AND IT'S JUST TWO LANE ROAD, ONE LANE EACH WAY OTHER WHERE DEEPY AND STERLING ARE TWO LANES BOTH WAYS.
BUT THIS SCOPE OF WORK DOES SHOW THAT THE PCI ON THIS STREET AVERAGE OVERALL, THE WHOLE THING IS 43, WHICH I THINK IS WORSE THAN DEEPY AND STERLING.
AND, UM, MY, MY ONLY QUESTION WAS YOU GOT, YOU HAD ALL THESE THREE PROJECTS SCHEDULED FOR CONSTRUCTION AT THE SAME TIME.
THAT'S SO WE WOULD, WE WOULD NOT CONSTRUCT ALL THREE AT THE SAME TIME.
UM, THOSE, THOSE DATES WERE WHEN WE COULD CONSTRUCTED.
UM, SO IF ALL THREE HAPPENED TO BE APPROVED, THEN WE WOULD, YOU KNOW, STAGE THE CONSTRUCTION THAT THEY USE.
SO THIS IS ALMOST LIKE EL CHACO STREET, UH, KIND OF LIKE EL CHACOS THAT IT'S A CONTINUOUS STREET FOR A PRETTY GOOD
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WAY.UH, I, I PERSONALLY HAVE NOT USED LOBIT AS A THOROUGHFARE FROM ONE END TO THE OTHER, BUT IT DOES GO RIGHT THROUGH THE MIDDLE OF THIS WHOLE NEIGHBORHOOD AREA AS, AS ONE OF THE ONLY CONTINUOUS STREETS FROM MAINE TO DECKER.
THE OTHERS LIKE WEST JAMES AND MURAL AND ALL THOSE, THEY, THEY DEAD END INTERNAL TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD ACTUALLY INTO, UH, LOBIT.
SO IT'S PROBABLY WHY LOBIT WAS LOOKED AT AS ANOTHER SORT OF THOROUGHFARE TYPE STREET.
IT, IT WOULD BE NICE, IT COULD GO EITHER WAY.
IT COULD GO, Y'ALL ARE USING ALL THESE GENERIC JOB DESCRIPTIONS, YOU KNOW, SEWER LINE IMPROVEMENTS AND YACHT.
IT WOULD BE NICE TO KNOW WHICH, ARE WE REPLACING A BUNCH OF SEWER LINE OR IS WE JUST FIXING A FEW SECTIONS? YOU KNOW, HOW MUCH OF THE PROJECT IS, ARE WE REPLACING IN THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS? WELL, I MEAN, I DON'T WANNA GO IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT BOND AND TELL THE PEOPLE THAT, HEY, YOU'RE GETTING SEWER LINE IMPROVEMENTS HERE.
WE'RE GONNA FIX A HUNDRED FEET OF SEWER LINE.
WE DON'T KNOW UNTIL WE GET INTO DESIGN OF THE PROJECT AND START EVALUATING THE SEWERS AND WATER AND SEE WHICH ONES REALLY NEED TO BE REPLACED.
SO I, ALONG THOSE LINES, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I THINK IS GONNA BE VERY IMPORTANT FOR THIS COMMITTEE WANTS WHATEVER MOVES FORWARD AND, AND WE'RE OUT TRYING TO SELL THIS THING, IS THAT WE KNOW EXACTLY WHAT EACH OF THESE PROJECTS IS GONNA DO TO THE BEST OF YOUR KNOWLEDGE.
WHEN YOU SAY, YOU KNOW, HALF A MILE OF SEWER LINE REPLACEMENT, WE'RE ASSUMING IT'S THE CITY SIDE, RIGHT? THE CITY SEWER LINE, THAT RIGHT.
YOU DON'T KNOW IT'S THE SAME AGE UNDER THE WHOLE STREET.
DON'T KNOW WHY YOU WOULD JUST DO SECTIONS.
IT WOULD BE THE ENTIRE LENGTH OF THE STREET SINCE YOU'RE DIGGING IT UP.
SAME WITH WATER LINES AND ALL THAT.
SO UNLESS YOU, YOU COME ACROSS A PIECE THAT'S, YOU KNOW, 30 FEET LONG THAT YOU JUST PUT IN NOT TOO LONG AGO AND WHY REPLACE IT? I DON'T KNOW.
BUT I, I THINK WHAT MIKE IS SAYING IS WE NEED TO, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE SCOPE OF WORK IS CLEARLY DEFINED RIGHT.
FOR THE MONEY THAT WE'RE ASKING.
AND THEN WHEN IT MAKE COMES TIME TO HAPPEN, THAT THAT'S THE SCOPE OF WORK AND THAT'S THE MONEY AND ANYTHING BEYOND THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'LL HAVE TO BE LOOKED AT IT.
SO GENERALLY WHEN YOU, THE CITY REPLACES SIR LINE, DOES THE CITY PAY FOR THE COSTS OF REDOING THE SIR TAPS? YES.
THEY DON'T MAKE THE RESIDENTS PAY THAT.
SO YOU STATED YOU'RE EVALUATING, BUT YOU, HOW'D Y'ALL COME UP WITH THIS FIGURE OF YOUR EVALUATING? WE, WE ASSUME THAT AN AVERAGE COST OF REPLACING IT ALL.
YEAH, BUT YOU JUST SAID IT BUT IT WAS STILL OKAY.
I THINK WHEN YOU'RE GETTING INTO THE DESIGN, YOU'LL KNOW EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE DEALING WITH.
BUT THE ASSUMPTION ON A COST ESTIMATE HAS TO BE THE WHOLE LINE UNDER THE STREET FROM POINT A TO POINT B.
THAT'S, THAT'S THE ONLY THING YOU CAN, YEAH.
SO WHAT WE DID WHEN WE'RE DOING THESE ESTIMATES IS WE WENT AND LOOKED AT THE CITY BAY TOWN'S RECORDS AND LOOKED AT HOW MUCH WIRE LINE IS UNDER THESE STREETS, HOW MUCH SANITARY SEWER LINE, AND HOW MUCH STORM DRAIN AND JUST ESTIMATED HOW MUCH TO REPLACE ALL OF IT.
AND THAT WAS THE BEST WAY TO GET THESE BUDGET NUMBERS.
BUT IF Y'ALL GET THE MONEY, Y'ALL ARE GONNA REPLACE IT.
I MEAN, IF YOU'RE GETTING THE FUNDS, YOU'RE GONNA REPLACE IT.
I DON'T KNOW WHY YOU WERE, THAT'S JUST LOGIC TO ME.
BUT THAT IS, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO CONFIRM THROUGH THIS PROCESS.
WHAT IS THE SCOPE OF WORK, UH, WHEN WE'RE DONE THAT WE UNDERSTAND WHAT IT IS.
SO WHEN NEIGHBORS ASK YOU, YOU'LL SAY, HEY, YOU'RE IN A NEW CITY SEWER LINE THAT'LL LAST WAY LONGER THAN YOU WILL BE AROUND AND YOUR KIDS.
WEST LOBIT, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? NOW THIS, YOU SEE THE PCI OF 43 NOW I JUST, 'CAUSE I LOOKED AT SOME OF WEST LOBE AND EVEN SOME OF THE OTHERS.
THERE'S SECTIONS THAT ARE NOT THAT BAD, BUT YOU CLEARLY SAY THIS IS AN AVERAGE OF THE ENTIRE STRETCH.
SO THERE MAY BE SECTIONS OF, UH, LIKE WHERE, YOU KNOW, UH, CHACO EL CHACO THAT MAY LOOK PRETTY GOOD AND YOU GET DOWN A WAVES AND IT'S BAD.
SO THEY'RE AVERAGING TO GET THAT, THAT PAVEMENT CONDITION INDEX.
ANY OTHER ON WEST LOBIT? THANK YOU.
NORTH ALEXANDER TRAFFIC SIGNAL RELOCATION.
NOW I, I REVIEWED THESE LAST WEEK.
I'LL TELL YOU WHAT I, WHAT I SENT 'EM JUST TO MAYBE GET SOME CONVERSATIONS STARTED FOR ME.
THE, THE COST WAS HARD TO UNDERSTAND.
I THINK WE'VE GOT SOME, SOME NEW INFORMATION IN HERE TALKING ABOUT, UH, THE FACT THAT, UH, FOUR OF THESE INTERSECTIONS HAVE BEEN DESIGNED ALREADY THAT OUT OF A TOTAL OF EIGHT INTERSECTIONS.
BECAUSE I WAS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT, WELL, WHAT'S BEEN DONE, WHAT DOES IT COST TO DO THIS PART? AND THAT PART, THE PAGE TWO TELLS YOU THAT DESIGNING FOUR INTERSECTIONS ARE $600,000 EACH CONSTRUCTION OF ALL EIGHT INTERSECTIONS.
SO NONE OF 'EM HAVE BEEN CONSTRUCTED.
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BEEN DESIGNED $6.4 MILLION AND THEN MATERIALS TESTING, ET CETERA, IS ANOTHER HALF MILLION DOLLARS.SO $7.5 MILLION FOR THIS, FOR THIS PROJECT.
AND AGAIN, THIS IS TO HELP MOBILITY THROUGH THE NORTH, THROUGH THE ALEXANDER CORRIDOR.
RIGHT? IT IT IS TO MAKE THE SIGNALS MORE RELIABLE AND UH, 'CAUSE THEY'RE OLD AND TRAFFIC CABINETS NEED TO BE REPLACED.
UH, THEY'RE ALSO IN BAD LOCATIONS.
IF YOU DRIVE, YOU'LL, YOU'LL SEE MOST OF THE POLES HAVE SOME KIND OF INDENTATION WHERE CARS HAVE HIT THEM, UH, THEY REGULARLY GET HIT AND WELL, THERE MUST BE NEWER DRIVERS.
'CAUSE OLDER DRIVERS NEVER HIT 'EM.
OR MAYBE THE OLDER DRIVERS GETTING SO OLD THEY HIT 'EM NOW, I DON'T KNOW.
SO IT'S NOT ALL OF THE ALEXANDER DOWN TO NINE NINE, IT'S JUST GOING DOWN DEEP IT LOOKS LIKE.
SO IS THERE, IS THERE REALLY A TRAFFIC ISSUE WITH THE SIGNAL COORDINATION? 'CAUSE I DRIVE THAT A LOT AND I'VE NEVER HAD TO WAIT A LIGHT.
IT'S A RELIABILITY OF THE SIGNALS.
THE THE SYNCHRONIZATION IS GREAT.
I MEAN IF YOU DRIVE 45, 47, YOU TYPICALLY GO IN TO END WITHOUT A PROBLEM.
THE PROBLEM IS THE ANTIQUE TRAFFIC SIGNALS, UH, THEY WERE BASICALLY BUILT IN PLACE.
I DON'T KNOW, WE HAVE NO IDEA HOW LONG AGO AND WE'RE JUST LOOKING TO UPGRADE, MODERNIZE THE INTERSECTION TO SOMETHING WE CAN TRULY WORK ON.
NEW CABINET, NEW POLE, NEW LIGHTS.
IS THAT WHY THEY GOING OUT? 'CAUSE I NOTICED WHEN IT RAINS A LOT, THEY YES, THAT, THAT'S EXACTLY WHY.
GET THE PAD BUTTONS A WHOLE NINE YARDS.
THAT THEY ALWAYS GO OUT QUICK.
THE ONE OF THE THINGS RADAR OR PER RADAR AT THIS TIME, WHAT WAS THE, I MEAN, LOOPS ARE THERE, BUT, AND, AND THEY WORK, BUT WHAT ABOUT CAMERAS? UH HUH WHAT ABOUT THE CAMERAS? WOULD YOU GO TO CAMERAS AND STORE RADAR? UH, WE'RE TESTING SOME NEW CAMERAS OUT ON, UH, 1 46.
THEY HAVE SOME FOG ISSUES IN THE MORNINGS.
THEY HAVE SOME, UH, BUG ISSUES.
SO I MEAN RIGHT NOW WE'RE REALLY, REALLY PARTIAL TO THE RADAR.
SO, SO IT SEEMS LIKE THESE ARE, YOU'RE UPGRADING THE ELECTRICAL COMPONENTS TO GET IT UP TO BE MORE MODERN? YES.
AND WE, THERE ARE NO OTHER POLES WE COULD FIND EVEN REPLACE 'EM.
I MEAN IT HAD TO GOLD A WOOD POLE IN THESE WERE, UH, ALL, THEY'RE REALLY, REALLY THICK.
I MEAN THEY'RE, THE POLES LIKE HALF INCH THICK AND YOU CAN TELL THEY WERE ALL WELDED IN PLACE.
I MEAN THESE WERE BUILT GOING UP.
I MEAN, THEY'RE BIG HEAVY DUTY POLES.
BUT LIKE I SAID, I I I IMAGINE THEY'RE 40, 50 YEARS OLD.
SO THAT WOULD BE NEW FOUNDATIONS, EVERYTHING.
THE ENTIRE NEW INTERSECTION, NEW FOUNDATIONS, UH, TYING IN, UH, SIDEWALKS, PADS, ALL NEW, UH, SIGNAL HEADS, EVERYTHING BRAND NEW.
SO I THINK IT WAS ALREADY POINTED OUT THAT THIS, THIS SCOPE OF WORK IS A LITTLE SHORTER THAN THE ORIGINAL INFORMATION WE HAD THAT WENT TO 99.
SO THIS GOES TO, UH, EAST TEXAS AVENUE, RIGHT.
SO TEXAS ALL THE WAY UP NORTH TO STATE HIGHWAY 1 46, 1 OF THE, UH, AND I THINK SOUTH OF TOWARDS NINE NINE, THERE'S ONLY ONE.
I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANOTHER INTERSECTION WITH SIGNAL INTERSECTION.
TRI CITY FROM TEXAS AVENUE TO 99.
THERE'S NOT ANOTHER SIGNALED INTERSECTION, RIGHT? NO.
SO THE SCOPE OF WORK WAS ALWAYS TEXAS, BUT IT SAID TO 99, THIS JUST CLEARS UP THAT IT'S TEXAS AVENUE TO 1 46.
AND THAT'S PRETTY MODERN SIGNAL THERE AT NINE NINE.
SO, UH, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I'M JUST GONNA SHARE WITH YOU, WHAT I ASKED WAS THAT THE, SOME OF THE BENEFITS WAS ANTICIPATED POPULATION GROWTH IN HARRIS COUNTY.
I NEED TO UNDERSTAND, WELL WHAT, WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? 'CAUSE I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GROWING ON EACH END OF THIS ROOM.
UH, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S A, IS IT A HEAVILY TRAVEL THOROUGHFARE? ARE THERE ANY TRAFFIC STUDIES, YOU KNOW, NUMBER OF CARS PER DAY OR I CAN'T IMAGINE WHERE THEY'RE GONNA PUT ANY POPULATION GROW UP THAT ROAD.
WELL, OR EVEN ON EITHER END OF IT.
I MEAN, YOU GOT NINE NINE OVER HERE, YOU DEAD END AT 1 46.
I, I'M JUST, AND AGAIN, I, I READ STUFF AND I LOOK FOR JUSTIFICATION AND ALL THAT.
AND IS, ISN'T THERE A SUBDIVISION GOING UP OFF OF 99 ON THAT SIDE? SO THERE'S SUPPOSED TO BE ONE GOING IN ON THE OTHER SIDE OF NINE, NINE BACKS UP TO THE GOLF COURSE, RIGHT? RIGHT.
SUPPOSED TO BEEN GOING IN FOR ABOUT 10 OR 12 YEARS.
MAYBE THAT'S WHAT THE QUESTION HERE.
I KNOW MY QUESTION WAS THE, THE NORTH ALEXANDER CORRIDOR FROM NINE NINE TO 1 46.
IF THERE WERE LIKE ANY, ANY TRAFFIC DATA SHOWING, YOU KNOW, JUST HIGH VOLUME.
I DON'T TRAVEL THAT SECTION VERY OFTEN.
I MEAN, YOU CAN'T HAVE SIGNAL LIGHTS GOING OUT 'CAUSE IT RAINS OR
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WHATEVER.BUT ANYWAY, JUST TO CLEARLY UNDERSTAND WHEN WE LOOK AT COMPARING THIS, PRIORITIZING EVERYTHING THAT WE KNOW WHAT THIS WAS ALL ABOUT.
WELL THERE'S THE HORSEMAN, THE STUDENTS THAT WALK TO HORSEMAN, I WISH Y'ALL WOULD PUT SOMETHING THERE FOR THEM NOT TO GET RUN OVER.
'CAUSE THERE IS TRAFFIC THERE AND IT'S UH, DANGEROUS FOR THEM TO BE CROSSING THAT EVEN THOUGH YOU HAVE A SOMEBODY OUT THERE DIRECTING IT.
STILL VERY DANGEROUS FOR THOSE KIDS.
IS THERE A SIGNAL CROSSWALK THERE? NO, NO, NO.
IT'S THAT GOOFY, THAT GOOFY CURB TIE IN WHERE ALEXANDER KICKS OFF AND IT, I MEAN, YOU COME AROUND THERE AND IT'S A HARD KIND THEN A S GOING IN IT'S, BUT I THINK, I BET THAT'S THE SCHOOL DISTRICT IS MONITORING THAT SITE PRETTY HARD.
AND THEN THE PROJECT Y'ALL ARE WORKING ON ALREADY, THAT'S WHAT I WOULD SAY
HORSEMAN'S BEEN THERE SINCE MY KIDS FROM JUNIOR HIGH, SO.
EVERYBODY GOOD WITH THIS SCOPE AWARD? ALRIGHT, THE NEXT ONE IS WEST BAKER ROAD FROM GARTH DECKER.
THIS IS ANOTHER BIG, BIG PROJECT.
DOES, UH, INCLUDE, YOU KNOW, IT'S $55 MILLION, INCLUDES 41 MILLION FROM GRANT FUNDING.
IS THAT EXPECTED? OH, THAT WOULD BE PROPOSED.
THERE'S NO, UH, WE HAVE NOT APPLIED FOR ANY GRANTS AT THIS POINT.
UH, THIS IS 2.4 MILES OF ROAD.
WE, WE DID DO PRELIMINARY ENGINEERING AND PREPARATION OF, YOU KNOW, APPLYING PROGRAMS. OKAY.
AND THIS IS A COST OF RECONSTRUCTION DESIGN THAT WOULD INCLUDE DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION COSTS.
AND THE MAIN DRIVER FOR THIS PROJECT, UM, IS REALLY THE, UH, IT'S A SAFETY ASPECT.
SO THE SIDE STREETS YOU HAVE THAT CO UH, SOUTH OF BAKER INTO, UH, BAKER HAVE, YOU KNOW, UH, FENCES THAT OBSTRUCT DIVISION OF MOTORS WHO ARE TRYING TO GO ON TO BAKER.
SO THERE'VE BEEN PLENTY OF ACCIDENTS.
UH, I THINK THERE'S, UM, EAST CREEK, THERE'S UH, COUNTRY CLUB.
THERE'S, THERE'S THREE INTERSECTIONS RIGHT IN A ROW AND THEY ALL HAVE SITE DISTANCES.
SO THE CITY FUNDING THE PROJECT WOULD REALLY SHRINK THE MEDIAN.
SHRINK THE MEDIANS AND PULL THE LANES IN SO YOU COULD SEE BETTER.
UH, YOU KNOW, AND YOU'RE ALSO GETTING, STARTING TO GET INTO PAVEMENT CONDITION ISSUES.
SO, YOU KNOW, WE'RE TRYING TO PLACE PANELS HERE AND THERE, BUT, UH, EVENTUALLY YOU'RE GONNA HAVE, YOU KNOW, WHERE IT'S, YOU KNOW, NOT, NOT IN GOOD CONDITION.
SO THIS IS ANOTHER MAJOR EAST, WEST CORRIDOR, UH, IN, IN BAYTOWN JUST SOUTH OF CEDAR BY LYNCHBURG ROAD.
UM, SO ANYWAY, FRANK JUST EXPLAINED THE WHOLE, THE SCOPE OF WORK.
MARTY, YOU HAD QUESTIONS THAT I THINK, WELL HE SAID THAT IT WAS INCLUDING THE DESIGN, BUT HERE IT STATES THAT Y'ALL ARE PAYING A HUNDRED PERCENT OF THE DESIGN CONSTRUCTION.
I MEAN YEAH, THE DESIGN, CONSTRUCTION, CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT OF DESIGN.
YOU KNOW, IF YOU GET, UH, GRANT FOR DESIGN COSTS IS A LOT OF TIMES IT END UP BEING MORE TROUBLE THAN IT'S WORTH.
SO, UH, I WOULD JUST PLAN FOR THE CITY PAYING FOR THE DESIGN AND, AND THEN GETTING THE GRANT FOR THE CONSTRUCTION.
SO WOULD THAT COME OFF THE FIGURE? UH, NO.
WE, WE HAD THE 13 MILLION INCLUDES THAT 20%, 20% PLUS DESIGN COSTS.
CITY PUTS UP 13.7 AND GRANT PROVIDES 41 MILLION AND WE GET A $55 MILLION DUE ROAD.
PAGE TWO OF THIS WEST BAKER FROM GARTH TO DECKER.
YOUR SECOND ASSUMPTION THERE, COULD YOU, UH, I I'M JUST TRYING TO SAY IT'S, IT'S NOT GONNA COMPETE AS WELL AS GARTH ROAD.
UM, AND IT, IT WILL COMPETE AGAINST ALL THE OTHER PROJECTS WITHIN, YOU KNOW, THE HOUSTON GALVESTON AREA.
SO, UM, WE WOULD BE GOING AFTER FEDERAL FUNDING THROUGH HJC SIMILAR TO GARTH ROAD.
SO IT HAS TO COMPETE AGAINST THOSE TYPE OF PROJECTS, YOU KNOW.
UM, I JUST DON'T THINK IT'S GONNA COMPETE, COMPETE AS WELL AS GARTH ROADS.
WELL, ON THAT, ON THAT NOTE, MY, MY COMMENTS WERE, UH, THE SUPPORTING INFORMATION DOESN'T PRESENT THE PROJECT.
WELL, YOU KNOW, AS FAR AS THE CHANCE WE GET GARTH ROADS, THAT'S THE MAJOR MOST MAJOR THOROUGHFARE THAT'S NOT A HIGHWAY.
UM, YEAH, IT, IT'S, YOU KNOW, I, I DON'T KNOW.
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ANYWAY, THAT'S, UH, OF THIS BOND WOULD BE $13.7 MILLION FOR, FOR THE SCOPE OF WORK YOU SEE ON THIS PAGE, AS LONG AS YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT IT'S FOR.SO WHEN WE GET THIS, WHEN WE START PRIORITIZING THINGS, YOU CAN SAY IT'S IMPORTANT OR, OR NOT.
THAT'S AT LEAST YOU KNOW WHAT IT'S WHAT IT'S ABOUT.
AND YOU KNOW, UM, SO WHEN WE, AGAIN, WE START PUTTING STREET AGAINST STREET OR PROJECT AGAINST PROJECT, YOU'LL, YOU CAN WAIT THEM, YOU KNOW, THIS, IN MY MIND, I GIVE YOU MY OPINION, I DON'T USUALLY DO THAT ON THIS SPECIFICALLY, BUT IN MY OPINION, YEAH.
THIS IS NOT, UH, AS, AS GOOD A COMPETITOR FOR HTAC MONEY AS GARTH WROTE WAS.
IT'S A, IT'S A MAJOR THOROUGHFARE FROM GARTH TO, UH, DECKER.
I'M SURE YOU'VE GOT TRAFFIC STUDY DATA.
UH, THERE ARE SOME BAD SPOTS ON IT.
THERE ARE SOME NOT SOME BAD SPOTS.
AND THE COUNTRY CLUB NEIGHBORHOOD FROM DAY ONE WAS JUST A, A VISUAL OBSTRUCTION.
UM, AND, AND EVEN A SIGNAL LIGHTS SHOULD BE NO TURN ON RED BECAUSE YOU, YOU CAN'T SEE THE TURN RIGHT.
WHEN YOU'RE, YOU CAN'T SEE THE ROAD.
SO I, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE ARE SIGNS UP THERE RIGHT NOW.
YES, THERE SOME PLACES SAY NO RIGHT ON RED.
SO, I MEAN, IT'S THE ONLY WAY YOU CAN MANAGE THAT.
YOU CAN'T TELL IF SOMEONE'S GONNA RUN THE RED LIGHT COMING DOWN THE ROAD.
BUT ANYWAY, ANYWAY, THAT'S, THAT'S MY OPINION ON THAT ONE.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ON THIS PROJECT? OKAY.
BAYWAY DRIVE, THIS IS $37 MILLION.
DID THEY ALREADY JUST DO THAT? BAYWAY DRIVE NEW ASPHALT? DID EXXON ALREADY DO ALL THAT? 'CAUSE THEY MADE SOMETHING OUT THERE AND IT'S A NICE ROAD.
UM, KEVIN, THE CITY DID DO SOME REPAIRS ON BAYWAY ON, UH, THE SOUTHERN SECTION.
RIGHT? WE, UH, WE DID REPAIRS ON THE SOUTHERN SECTION LAST YEAR.
WE PUT A MICRO ON IT ON ONE OF THE BETTER SECTIONS, UH, WHICH IS FAIRLY CHEAP, BUT WITH A GOOD SHAPE.
WE TRY TO KEEP IT HELD TOGETHER.
SO WE DID PUT A MICRO ON THAT.
SO THIS WAS PUT INTO CONSIDERATION FOR A COUPLE REASONS BECAUSE, UH, NAMELY THE, UH, THE BLUE HYDROGEN PROJECT WILL BE LOCATED OFF OF BAYWAY.
UH, THERE'S GONNA BE A LOT OF CONSTRUCTION TRAFFIC ASSOCIATED WITH THAT.
SO, UH, I'M EXPECTING THAT THE CONDITION OF THE ROADWAY WILL DEGRADE OVER THE NEXT, YOU KNOW, FOUR OR FIVE YEARS.
UM, AND THERE'S ALSO A, UM, BAYWAY CORRIDOR STUDY DONE AND IT KIND OF SPECIFIED WHAT THE FUTURE OF BAYWAY SHOULD LOOK LIKE.
SO, YOU KNOW, PUTTING THOSE TWO THINGS TOGETHER, PUT THE PROJECT FOR CONSIDERATION AND UH, BUT IT, I DON'T FEEL LIKE IT WOULD COMPETE, YOU KNOW, ON FOR GRANT FUNDING.
THAT'S EXXON'S AND THEY'RE THE ONES THAT USE IT.
WE KNOW THAT WHEN, YOU KNOW, EXXONMOBIL HAS PROJECTS OUT THERE, TURNAROUNDS A LOT, BUT THEY DON'T COME TO THIS END OF THE SITE TO GET IN.
THEY GO, THEY GO IN OFF OF BAKER ROAD.
AND SO THIS PART OF BAYWAY DOESN'T REALLY GET TRAVEL THAT MUCH, BUT THE BLUE HYDROGEN PROJECT IS ON THE WATER FROM THAT END.
AND I GUESS THAT'S THE TRAFFIC CONCERN.
YOU WOULDN'T REPLACE IT UNTIL THAT PROJECT'S OVER.
WHAT IS THE TIMELINE FOR THAT PROJECT? YEAH, IT'S UP TO THEM.
I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY.
I KNOW THEIR, YEAH, SO THEY'RE, THEY ARE GOING TO, THEIR PROJECT WILL BE DETERMINED AS A YES OR NO THIS YEAR.
AND THEN THE, WHAT WE AS A CITY NEED TO BE READY FOR IS THAT WORK WILL BE ONGOING FOR THE NEXT TWO TO FIVE YEARS AS, AS PEOPLE COMING IN.
AND PART OF TO FRANK'S POINT, THEY'RE GONNA HAVE AT THE HEIGHT 4,000 ADDITIONAL PEOPLE WORKING THERE.
AND SO THAT'S A LOT OF TRAFFIC PERIOD.
LIKE TAKE OUT THE, TAKE OUT THE TRUCKS OR ANYTHING ELSE COMING THROUGH, JUST 4,000 ADDITIONAL PEOPLE COMING IN AND OUT.
UM, IT'S GONNA DEGRADE IT QUICK AND UM, IT'S ALREADY ROUGH AND ROUGH SHAPE.
SO, SO YOU, YOU WOULDN'T START CONSTRUCTION FOR NO SOONER THAN FIVE YEARS, IS THAT RIGHT? WE, WE WOULD NOT CONSTRUCT UNTIL THE PROJECT, THE BLUE PASS.
SO IT COULD BE AT LEAST FIVE YEARS CONSTRUCTION.
IT, IT WOULD PROBABLY BE ON THE LATER END OF THIS PROGRAM.
AND MY FOLLOW UP TO THAT IS IF THAT'S WHEN THE PROJECT'S GONNA BE DONE, SHOULD IT BE PART OF LIKE THIS SCOPE OF THE BOND OR FOR LATER OR LATE, FOR LATER, YOU KNOW, KICK IT DOWN THE ROAD BECAUSE FIVE YEARS IT MIGHT BE NOT DONE AND YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? WELL BE LATER.
UH, I DIDN'T HAVE, LIKE I SAID, WE'RE PUTTING THIS TOGETHER, DIDN'T HAVE THE EXACT, UM, SCHEDULE FOR
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THEBUT IT COULD BE, IT COULD BE DONE IN TWO YEARS, RIGHT? IT COULD BE FINISHED IN TWO YEARS.
WE JUST DON'T, IT'S NOT OUR STORY TO TELL WHAT THEIR TIMELINE IS.
WE JUST KNOW THAT IT'S COMING AND IT COULD VERY WELL BE DONE IN TWO YEARS AND THEY, THEY BE OUTTA HERE.
SO THE BAYWAY CORRIDOR, I THINK, FRANK, YOU MENTIONED THIS HAD A STUDY SIMILAR TO THE MARKET STREET CORRIDOR, RIGHT? YES.
SO THAT BAYWAY CORRIDOR, OBVIOUSLY STREET ROAD REPLACEMENT ENHANCEMENTS A MAJOR PART OF THAT.
WHAT OTHER COMPONENTS TO THAT BAYWAY CORRIDOR SCOPE OF WORK? UH, SO IT, IT ENVISIONED, UH, REDOING THE CROSS SECTION OF THE STREET, UH, ADDING A LOT MORE PEDESTRIAN ACCESSIBILITY.
THE PLAN IS ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE.
UM, IT MAY TAKE A LITTLE WHILE TO LOAD UP.
I JUST, BUT IF YOU GO INTO THE CITY'S MAIN WEBSITE UNDER I THINK THE PLANNING, UH, DEPARTMENT, THEY HAVE STORE FAIR PLANS AND, UH, ALL THE LONG TERM PLANS.
BAYWAY IS ONE OF THE PLANS LISTED THERE.
SO YOU CAN PULL THAT UP AND REVIEW IT AND SAY REALLY ENVISION, SIMILAR TO MARKET STREET WHERE WE'RE ADDING A LOT OF PEDESTRIAN ACCESSIBILITY A TRAIL NOW, UM, MAYBE CUTTING DOWN, UH, THE, THE ROAD, THE LANES, UM, LIFT, UH, MEDIUMS AND PEDESTRIAN ACCESSIBILITY.
THIS IS CURRENTLY TWO LANES EACH WAY, RIGHT? CORRECT.
SO IN THIS SCOPE OF WORK, WHAT WOULD THE ROAD LOOK LIKE? SO IT'S DIFFERENT IN DIFFERENT SECTIONS.
IF YOU, YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT THE, OKAY.
SO YOU MASTER PLAN THIS SCOPE OF WORK WOULD BE TO DO WITH THE MASTER PLAN SHOWS IT SHOULD LOOK LIKE.
THAT'S ALL I WAS WANTING TO GET TO THIS.
IS THIS SCOPE OF WORK IS PART OF A MASTER PLAN FOR BAYWAY DRIVE? YES.
THIS IS JUST THE ROAD PART OF IT.
YOU WOULD CONSTRUCT IT THE WAY THE MASTER PLAN HAS, RIGHT? ALL THE OTHER STUFF THAT WAS PART OF IT WOULD JUST BE DONE SOME OTHER TIME.
IS THAT RIGHT? UH, WHAT OTHER STUFF? SIDEWALKS STUFF, THINGS LIKE THAT? UH, OR WOULD THAT BE INCLUDED WITH THIS? THAT WOULD BE INCLUDED.
THAT'S PRETTY MUCH THE WHOLE, THAT DETAIL THING WITH BAYWAY, RIGHT? YEAH.
SO MAYBE THIS IS THE BAYWAY, THE BAYWAY PROJECT.
MAYBE IT SO NOT, THERE'S NOT A WHOLE LOT BEYOND THAT.
SCOPE OF WORK THAT'S NOT, I MEAN, THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE PLANNING TO DO.
THE BAYWAY CORRIDOR PROJECT, WE'RE NOT INCLUDING QUESTION WHERE ARE THEY WALKING TO? NATURE CENTER.
WHO WALKS NOWADAYS? LAKEWOOD BIKES.
WHAT DO WE CALL LIKE A MASTER? I KNOW THE CITY HAS LIKE A MASTER TRAIL THING GOING ON.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT NO, WE DON'T, WE DON'T HAVE A PLAN TO GET THERE BY THE, THE STREET TRAIL SYSTEM ASKING.
SO IS THAT WHAT IT, BECAUSE WE'RE AT LIKE RIGHT NOW AS IS THE QUESTION IS WHERE AND WHO WAS WALKING, RIGHT? AND THEN I DO REMEMBER THAT THE CITY HAS LIKE A SIDEWALK OR IS IT NOT, THE CITY HAS LIKE A SIDEWALK PLAN AND THERE'S LIKE A BIG OLD TRAIL BEHIND ROSS AND THEY CONNECT THE GOOSE CREEK TRAILS.
IS THAT CONNECTION IS THAT THERE'S NO CONNECTION POINT TO IT RIGHT NOW TO BAYWAY AT ALL? IS THAT THE FUTURE, FUTURE OF IT? LIKE, IS THAT WHAT WANTS TO HAPPEN? LIKE WHAT YOU GUYS WANT, WANT IT TO HAPPEN? YEAH, WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE AS MUCH CONNECTIVITY WITH DRILLS AS POSSIBLE, BUT THERE'S CURRENTLY NO PLAN TO GET OUT TO THE BAYWAY OR ANY OF THAT.
BUT TO THE POINT THAT WHO'S WALKING OUT THERE, LIKE I WOULDN'T WALK OUT THERE WITH MY CHILD EITHER WITH NO SIDEWALK OR, OR PATH.
I MEAN YOU CAN'T REALLY LOOK AT IT FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE.
I DON'T THINK THERE OR RIDE A BIKE TO THE NATURE CENTER FROM THERE.
THERE IS A LOT OF, I DON'T KNOW GONNA LIE, THERE'S A FAIR AMOUNT OF BIKE TRAFFIC FROM LAKEWOOD GOING TOWARD THE NATURE CENTER IN THE, BECAUSE I'M IN THERE ALL THE TIME.
THAT'S WHERE I GO WALK NATURE CENTER.
I WOULDN'T RIDE MY BIKE DOWN THAT ROAD.
SO YOU'RE SAYING NOT SEE PEOPLE? YEAH, BUT THERE IS PEOPLE WHO DO THAT, YOU KNOW, AND THEN THEY GO INTO NATURE CENTER AND RIDE AROUND IN NATURE.
I PROBABLY SEE MAYBE 15, 20 PEOPLE IN A WEEK'S TIME, YOU KNOW, DOING THAT.
AND I ALWAYS THINK, HOW CRAZY IS THAT? YOU KNOW? BUT I DON'T KNOW WHAT OCCURS FROM LAKEWOOD BACK TOWARD DECKER.
SO MAYBE HAVING THAT THERE WOULD INCREASE, LIKE YOU SAY, THE OPPORTUNITY, I MEAN THE NATURE CENTER IS THERE FOR THAT PURPOSE, I GUESS TOO.
I, THERE'S BEEN SOME COMPLAINTS ABOUT SIDEWALKS GOING TOWARD THE SCHOOL DOWN THERE IN THE JUNIOR HIGH.
AND I'M ASSUMING THEY WOULD BE PUT IN AS PART OF THIS PROJECT.
I MEAN I KNOW THEY GET COMPLAINTS ABOUT THAT.
BUT I DO HAVE A CO BUT THIS IS FROM DECKER ALL THE WAY DOWN.
YOU SAID, IS THERE A WAY TO SEE THE MASTER PLAN? I MEAN MAYBE NOT NOW, BUT LATER.
I THINK IN THIS PACKAGE THERE'S, THERE WAS A MAP OF WHAT A, UH, A LEGEND.
WE'LL GET THERE IN A MINUTE, BUT IT JUST SOUNDS LIKE A OFF OF CHEAP PROJECT FOR THE AMOUNT OF WORK THAT YOU'RE DESCRIBING.
YOU GET DONE 37 MIL COMPARED TO,
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COMPARED TO BAY THE ROAD.I'M JUST, I'M NOT SAYING THIS, I'M JUST SAYING COMPARED TO THE OTHER PROJECTS THAT ARE MUCH SHORTER STREET THAN EVERYTHING AND THEY'RE MUCH MORE EXPENSIVE, JUST THE NUMBERS JUST DOESN'T SIT, DOESN'T, IT SEEMS OUTTA WHACK.
WELL THAT'S THE FUNNY LOOK TEST.
AND THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE COMPARING, RIGHT? THAT SHOULD DRIVE A QUESTION.
I DIDN'T EVEN THINK ABOUT THAT.
I DIDN'T COMPARE IT TO THE OTHER STREETS, BUT YEAH, BECAUSE THIS ONE'S THREE MILES.
THAT'S FINE BECAUSE ROAD WAS 2.4, BUT I'M GONNA PULL, BUT BAKER ROAD IS A, IS A, A DIFFERENT TYPE OF ROAD THAN BAY BAYWAY ISS WIDE OPEN.
YOU KNOW, AND IT'S WIDE WHERE VERY WIDE.
WHERE BAKER'S GOT A LOT OF COMPLEXITY TO IT FROM GARTH TO DECK, BUT I DON'T KNOW, I'M SURE, I'M SURE THEY, WHOEVER CAME UP WITH THE DOLLAR AMOUNT TO BACK IT UP, WHICH, WHICH I THINK WHEN WE GET TO THE POINT WHERE WE THINK A PROJECT'S VALID TO PRESENT, WE, WE REALLY GOTTA FIRM MAKE SURE WE GOT GOOD NUMBERS.
BECAUSE ONCE THAT GOES TO COUNCIL AND IF THEY, THEY CALL FOR SOMETHING, THAT'S THE NUMBER THAT FOLKS ARE VOTING ON.
THAT NEEDS TO BE, IT NEEDS TO BE, IT NEEDS TO BE ENOUGH AND RIGHT AS BEST AS POSSIBLE.
FRANK, WE CAN LOOK THAT UP LATER.
WE'LL LOOK AT THAT IN A MINUTE.
WE HAVE 30 MINUTES LEFT TIME CHECK.
SO ONE OF THE, ONE OF THE, UH, THINGS AGAIN TO POINT OUT IF YOU WANT TO ASK PCI ON THIS ROAD IS 64 RIGHT THERE IN FRONT OF YOU.
SO IF SOMEONE ASKS, WELL WHY ARE WE REDOING A FAIR ROAD? IS BECAUSE OF THE EXPECTED DEGRADATION THAT'S GONNA HAPPEN OVER THE NEXT FEW YEARS.
AND SO JUST KIND OF PLAN IT FOR IT.
I I PUT IT IN MY EMAIL AND I DON'T MIND SAYING IT, BUT UM, I THINK THERE OUGHT TO BE AN EXXONMOBIL COMPONENT TO THE EXTREME.
BECAUSE THEY MIGHT BLOCK IT OFF IN THE FUTURE.
UH, WEST BAYTOWN DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENT PHASES TWO AND THREE.
ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT? IS THERE ANY GRANT? I MEAN, I SEE THAT THEY'RE LOOKING GRANT FOR 12.
IS THERE ANY, DOES THIS DRAIN THIS THE ONE THAT I SAID WE'VE ALREADY APPLIED FOR A GRANT.
UM, AND WE SHOULD FIND OUT THIS SUMMER.
THAT'S, THAT'S THE H THE HARRIS COUNTY GALSTON MONEY? UM, NO, THIS ONE WAS A FEDERAL GRANT AND I, WE APPLIED FOR FOUR, SO I DON'T, IT WAS, UM, MAYBE THROUGH COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT.
IT WOULDN'T HARRIS COUNTY FLIP IT? IT IS FEDERAL FUNDING? NO, IT'S FEDERAL FUNDING.
IT WAS, UM, I DON'T KNOW MIKE, IF YOU REMEMBER THERE WAS A-D-R-R-C-D DISASTER RECOVERY AND SUBJECT RESILIENCY PROGRAM.
WE, WE APPLIED FOUR DIFFERENT PROJECTS.
NOW THERE WAS TWO UNDER EACH, AND I DON'T REMEMBER IS THAT THE LAST TWO PHASES OF THIS PROJECT THERE, THERE'S NO MORE PHASES AFTER THAT.
THE FIRST PHASE HAD BEEN DONE, IF YOU LOOK AT THE, UH, MASTER DRAIN PLAN, THIS WEST BAY TOWN WAS REALLY A LARGER AREA CALLED OUT IN THE MASTER DRAIN PLAN.
UM, IT, IT WENT ALL THE WAY OVER AND INCLUDED THE WEST MAIN PROJECT THAT I HAVE CALLED OUT HERE.
WE BROKE IT INTO SMALLER COMPONENTS, UH, JUST FOR AFFORDABILITY PURPOSES.
SO PHASE ONE IS THE, UM, THE MAIN TRUNK LINE THAT GOES DOWN OKLAHOMA STREET.
UM, AND THAT, THAT'S BEEN DESIGNED, IT'S, UH, WAITING FOR CONSTRUCTION.
IT'S IN PARTNERSHIP WITH HARRIS COUNTY.
UH, SO THAT'S JUST THE MAIN TRUNK PLAN THAT GOES EMPTIES INTO THE BAY.
SO MY QUESTION WAS, IS CONSTRUCTION FUNDED FOR THAT ALREADY? IT IS, BUT UM, IT'S NOT HOUSE CAME OVER AND IT WAS SHORT.
IT WAS BASICALLY ABOUT $2 MILLION SHORT.
SO THAT'S NOT IN THIS SCOPE BOARD? IT IS NOT IN THIS SCOPE.
WE, WE APPLIED FOR ANOTHER GRANT TO TRY TO MAKE THAT SHORT POINT.
UM, SO I'M CONFIDENT THAT PHASE ONE WILL GET CONSTRUCTED.
AND, UH, SO SO PHASE ONE IS JUST THE MAIN TRUNK LINE.
UH, AND THEN PHASE TWO AND THREE ARE ALL THE, THE, THE SMALLER LINES THAT FEED INTO THE TRUNK LINE AND REDOING THE, THE INLETS SO THE WATER GETS THROUGH THE TRUNK LINE AND THAT, THAT'S WHAT THIS WOULD DO.
AND WE DID APPLY FOR A GRANT, UM, FOR THAT.
SO IF YES, IF PHASE ONE DOESN'T GET FUNDED, THEN YOU WON'T DO PHASE TWO AND THREE.
OH, IT'S, IT'S, BUT IT'S FUNDED.
IT'S IT'S FUNDED BUT IT'S SHORT.
SO WE HAD, UM, WE GOT ABOUT $8 MILLION BETWEEN CITY AND HARRIS COUNTY.
UH, THE ESTIMATE WAS LIKE 10 MILLION BUCKS.
SO WE'RE ALMOST, WE'RE SHORT ON THAT.
BUT THEN THERE WAS A GRANT OPPORTUNITY THAT CAME UP.
SO WE APPLIED FOR ANOTHER GRANT AND WE'RE WAITING
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TO HEAR BACK ON THAT.LET'S, UH, I THINK WHATEVER YOU EXPECT TO BE FUNDED, YOU'LL TAKE CARE OF AND RIGHT.
BUT THE QUESTION WAS, THAT'S NOT INCLUDED IN THIS SCOPE WORK? NO.
THIS IS LISTED AS 11.6 MILES OF STREETS IN HERE.
IS THAT RIGHT? THAT WILL BE PART OF THIS WORK.
DO YOU KNOW WHERE THAT, THAT WAS JUST, UM, US MEASURING THE NEIGHBORHOOD, BECAUSE IT'S ESSENTIALLY NEIGHBORHOOD.
SO THIS, THIS WHOLE RED AREA, EVERY STREET IN THAT AREA IS GONNA HAVE SOME KIND OF CONSTRUCTION WORK DRAINAGE.
AND WHILE YOU'RE IN THERE AGAIN, YOU ARE, YEAH.
SO WE ESTIMATED WATER LINES, SANITARY SEW LINES, UM, DRIVEWAYS.
'CAUSE USUALLY YOU'RE OKAY, YOU'RE DOING THE ENDLESS, YOU'RE DOING DIFFERENT GRADES.
SO YOU HAVE TO DO THE DRIVEWAYS TO MATCH THE NEW GRADES OF THE ROAD.
UM, SO THIS IS BASICALLY A ROAD RECONSTRUCTION, SEWER, ALL UTILITY LINES, BUT IN, BUT IMPROVING THE DRAINAGE COMPONENT OF IT.
THE PRIMARY DRIVER IS THE DRAINAGE.
IS THE DRAINAGE, BUT THEY'RE GETTING ALL NEW STREETS, DRIVEWAY CONNECTORS.
IF THERE'S CURBS, ALL THAT'S SIDEWALKS IF THEY'RE DAMAGED.
SO THIS WHOLE, THIS WHOLE BLOCKED AREA HERE IS GONNA LOOK LIKE ALL NEW NEIGHBORHOOD ON THE STREET SIDE, RIGHT? GENERALLY TO FIX, TO FIX THE DRAINAGE PROBLEMS. YES.
BECAUSE USUALLY THE, THE STORM DRAINS ARE LARGE ENOUGH AND ARE IN THE PAVE THAT, THAT YOU'RE HAVING TO TEAR UP THE MAJORITY OF THE ROAD TO GET TO IT ANYWAYS.
AND SO IT JUST MAKES SENSE TO REPLACE IT ALL.
SO MY, MY QUESTION IS UNDERSTANDING THE $22.5 MILLION, BECAUSE THAT'S 11 MILES OF ROADS BEING REDONE AND UTILITIES UNDER EVERY ONE OF THOSE ROADS THAT ARE GONNA BE REPLACED.
IS THAT RIGHT? THAT'S WHAT THIS SAYS.
REPLACING A WATER LINE AND SANITARY SEWER LINES.
WE NEED TO CLEARLY UNDERSTAND THAT'S WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN.
YEAH, BASICALLY NEIGHBORHOOD REFRESH.
IS NEIGHBORHOOD'S GONNA LOOK LIKE IT'S ALL NEW STREETS WITH IMPROVED WATER, SEWER AND, AND OVERALL DRAINAGE FOR FLOOD CONTROL.
SO AGAIN, AS WE START LOOKING AT THESE PROJECTS, IS WE'RE, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT DOLLARS, IT'S THE BOND FUNDING COMPONENT FOR THE VALUE OF THE PROJECT, NOT THE WHOLE 22.5.
AND AGAIN, THE GRANT FUNDING, UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S HARD TO CALL.
I MEAN THAT, THAT'S WHERE THEY THINK THEY CAN GET IT OR NOT.
I GUESS IT WOULDN'T BE HERE IF YOU DIDN'T THINK YOU COULD GET SOMETHING.
NO, HE ALREADY HAD IT, HE SAID RIGHT.
BUT I'M JUST SAYING IF THEY DON'T GET THE GRANT FUNDING, WE'RE 12 MILLION SHORT.
NO, THAT'S THE, WE APPLIED ONE FOR THIS, THIS ONE HERE.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THIS SCOPE BOARD? OKAY, DAN, BEING A DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENTS LOOKS TIGHT.
UH, A LITTLE BIT MORE MONEY, BUT, UH, 15 MILES OF ROAD SIMILAR.
UM, NOW THIS ONE I RANKED LOWER AND, AND I WANNA KIND OF OF GO THROUGH THE REASONS FOR THAT.
SO, UM, WHEN WE DID THE MASTER DRAINAGE PLAN, THERE WAS TWO AREAS OF HIGH NEED IDENTIFIED IN THE PLAN.
IT WAS BASICALLY WEST BAYTOWN AND DANIEL BEACH.
UM, AND WE GOT, UM, PARTNERSHIP PROJECT GRANT WITH HARRIS COUNTY ON EACH OF THOSE.
UM, BUT WEST BAYAN, I ALREADY EXPLAINED THAT ONE ON DANINA.
IT, UM, IT, IT IS A VERY LARGE AREA ALSO AND IT HAS A MAIN TRUNK LINE THAT GOES DOWN HONEYCUT, UH, UP UNTIL, UH, THERE'S A, A CHANNEL, I THINK IT'S CALLED, UH, HOLD GLY, WHERE IT EMPTIES INTO AND THEN GOES ALONG THAT CHANNEL AND EMPTIES INTO CEDAR BIDEN.
SO, UH, HARRIS COUNTY IS DESIGNING, THEY'RE LEADING PROJECT, THEY'RE DESIGNING WHAT THEY CALL PHASE ONE, WHICH IS A TRUNK LINE KNOWN HONEYCUT AND PHASE TWO, WHICH IS, UH, IMPROVEMENTS TO THE CHANNEL GO TO CEDAR BIKE.
UM, THEY'VE DESIGNED THE TRUNK LINE PROBLEM IS COME IN, UH, WITH THE CHANNEL IMPROVEMENTS IN ORDER TO BASICALLY GET THE WATER CAPACITY THEY NEED TO SEE THE VALUE THEY HAVE TO WIDEN THE CHANNEL SO MUCH THAT IT'S GONNA IMPACT ALL THE HOUSES ALONG THE CHANNEL.
AND THAT IS ANOTHER, YOU KNOW, THAT'S BEEN A STICKING POINT IN THE DESIGN FOR THE CITY BECAUSE OUR DIRECTION WAS WE DON'T WANT TO IMPACT THE HOUSES, YOU KNOW, UM, AND THE DESIGN ENGINEERS HAVING TROUBLE DESIGNING A PROJECT THAT WILL NOT
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IMPACT THE HOUSING.SO, UH, WE'VE REALLY BEEN IN THIS, UH, KIND OF LOOPED FOR A WHILE TRYING TO FIGURE THAT OUT.
AND UH, THAT'S WHY I RATED THIS PROJECT LOWER BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW IF WE'RE GONNA COME TO A
UH, THERE IS AN OPTION TO DIVERT SOME WATER AROUND, UH, I THINK IN THE EAST JAMES AREA AREA.
SO YOU BASICALLY HAVE CHANNEL AND ANOTHER TRUNK LINE PARALLEL TO, UM, THAT'S NOT AN EXPENSIVE SOLUTIONS.
SO, UM, WE GOTTA SEE, YOU KNOW WHAT HARRIS COUNTY IS WILLING TO PARTICIPATE AND YOU, THIS, THIS AREA IS A HIGH DRAINAGE NEED, BUT THE SOLUTIONS ARE COMPLICATED.
BUT ON THIS PARTICULAR ONE, I, I WOULD EXPECT, SO THIS PROJECT WOULD BE, AS I SAID, PHASE ONE AND TWO, THE TRUNK LINE CHANNEL ALREADY BEING DONE, RIGHT.
THE, THE FUTURE PHASE OF THIS ONE WOULD, WHAT'S BEING CONSIDERED IS THE SMALLER LINES THAT GO INTO THE TRUNK LOT.
AND THE INLETS, CAN THIS BE DONE OR IS THIS THE PROBLEM YOU'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT? THAT'S THE PROBLEM.
OKAY, WELL THAT'S GONNA HELP US WHEN WE START TALKING ABOUT WHERE THINGS LAND.
IF FRANK'S GOT A PROBLEM WITH IT, THEN WE OUGHT TO HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IT.
SO THIS IS MORE OR LESS LIKE THE WEST BAYTOWN YOU CONNECTING IT ALL TOGETHER.
AND IT'D BE A GREAT IMPROVEMENT FOR ALL THE STREETS.
IT'D BE LIKE ANOTHER, ANOTHER NEW NEIGHBORHOOD AS FAR AS STREETS AND SIDEWALKS AND EVERYTHING.
ALRIGHT, WELL NOW WE, THERE'S NO SIDEWALK WE UNDERSTAND THIS PROJECT A LITTLE BETTER, YOU KNOW, FACE VALUE.
IT SEEMED LIKE THE OTHER ONE, BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE THIS ONE'S GOT SOME COMPLEXITY THAT'S NOT BEEN WORKED OUT YET.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THIS ZINA PROJECT? OKAY, ROLLING BROOKS STREET AND DRAINAGE EMPLOYEE, UH, THIS ONE HERE IS DESIGNED AND LAND ACQUISITION ONLY, RIGHT? CORRECT.
AND THIS IS, UH, ROLLING BOOK STREET BETWEEN GARTH AND NORTH MAIN STREET, ALMOST, ALMOST ALL THE WAY TO THE INTERSECTION, BUT UM, THIS IS ANOTHER ROAD THAT SAYS IT'S 65 AND FAIR CONDITION.
I DON'T KNOW WHERE THE HECK THE 65 IS.
YEAH, THAT'S THE WRONG NUMBER BECAUSE THAT ROAD IS LIKE THAT BULK OF YOUR SEATBELT.
SO THE SOUTH RATED THIS ONE HAS A FAIRLY HIGH NEED BECAUSE YES, IT'S, UM, A MODERATE, IT'S A MEDIUM NEED WITHIN THE STORM DRAINAGE, UH, MASTER PLAN.
AND AS YOU SAID, THERE'S A, A PAVEMENT CONDITION PROBLEM, UM, THAT'S BEING CAUSED BY THE STORM DRAINAGE SYSTEM.
YEAH, WELL THIS IS, THIS IS, AND IT TAKES A LOT OF TRAFFIC, YOU KNOW.
THIS IS DESIGNED AND LAND ACQUISITION ALSO $2 MILLION.
UM, THIS, THIS INCLUDES A COUPLE OF DETENTION BONDS SOMEWHERE.
AND I GUESS THIS WOULD BE TO PURCHASE LAND FOR THE DETENTION BONDS OR, I, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S ENOUGH TO PURCHASE ALL THE DETENTION.
I THINK THE RIGHT OF WAY WE TALKED ABOUT WAS, YOU KNOW, JUST ALONG THE ROADWAY, UH, AND THE DESIGN.
AND THEN ONCE THEY IDENTIFIED THE TRACKS OF LAND THAT NEEDS TO BE PURCHASED FOR DETENTION THAT COULD BE DONE IN THE FUTURE.
SO, SO MAYBE, MAYBE THE CLARIFICATION, I DON'T THINK IT'S WRONG.
THIS IS DESIGN LANDING TO ENLARGE THE SO SEW SYSTEM TO HANDLE MORE WATER AND REDUCE ROAD FLOODING, INCLUDING A DETENTION POND, PREVENT DOWNSTREAM.
THAT'S PART OF THE DESIGN, THE DETENTION POND'S PART OF THE DESIGN.
BUT YOU'RE SAYING IT'S NOT INCLUDED IN THIS COST TO PURCHASE LAND FOR THE DETENTION POND.
EVERYBODY CLEAR ON THAT ONE? YES.
THIS IS TO DESIGN A SYSTEM WITH DETENTION PONDS, BUT NO DETENTION POND MONEY IS IN HERE, SO YOU'D HAVE TO FIND MONEY FOR THAT DOWN THE ROAD.
AND ANY, SO THIS IS GONNA BE A BIG DOLLAR PROJECT DOWN THE ROAD.
IT WILL BE PRETTY LARGE DOLLAR.
THIS IS ONE WHERE IT'S NEVER REALLY HAD ADEQUATE MEDIANS TURN LANE TYPE THINGS.
I MEAN, IT'S ALMOST LIKE THE MEDIANS ARE ALMOST A DETERRENT TO, TO WANTING TO DETERRENT.
YOU, YOU GET IN THE, YOU GET IN THE LEFT TURN LANE, YOU'RE BLOCKING THE LANE YOU'RE IN.
SO THIS ROAD WASN'T DESIGNED VERY WELL TO START WITH.
EVERYBODY CLEAR ON THIS ONE? LAND ACQUISITION AND DESIGN AND LAND ACQUISITION IS SIMPLY RIGHT OF WAY LITTLE RIGHT OF WAY ALONG THE ROADWAY.
NEXT, UH, WEST MAIN DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENTS, THIS IS KIND OF, THIS IS OVER, UH, THIS IS OVER AT, UH, WEST MAIN LEE DRIVE AREA WHERE, UH, BAYTOWN SEAFOOD IS, IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH THAT AREA, LOOKS LIKE IT GOES SOUTH ON LEE DRIVE AND THEN WEST ON MAIN STREET.
UH, AND AGAIN, THIS IS JUST A DESIGN AND LAND ACQUISITION BUDGET AS WELL, RIGHT? CORRECT.
SO, NO, NO CONSTRUCTION COST HERE, IT'S JUST TO FIGURE OUT WHAT IT TAKES TO, TO, UH, ENLARGE STORM SEWER SYSTEM TO HANDLE MORE WATER AND I GUESS WHEREVER IT GOES BEYOND THIS LITTLE SCOPE WHERE IT'S
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ALREADY BIG ENOUGH OR SOMETHING KIND OF WEIRD WHEN YOU DO ONE PIECE IN THE MIDDLE AND IT'S GOTTA GO TO WHATEVER EXISTS ALREADY.I, I DON'T KNOW WHERE THE OUTFALL IS.
SO THIS, THIS IS 1.5 FOR DESIGN AND LAND ACQUISITION AND I THINK THE BACK OF IT HAS THE SAME THING, RIGHT? SO ONE OF THE THINGS I ASKED FRANK ALSO ABOUT THIS 2021 STORMWATER MASTER PLAN WAS THAT, YOU KNOW, THESE ARE PRIORITIES IN THAT MASTER PLAN.
PROBABLY SOME WORK'S ALREADY BEEN DONE SINCE THE MASTER PLAN FROM 2021, RIGHT? UM, AND MAYBE LATER WE CAN JUST SEE HOW THESE FIT INTO THE OVERALL MASTER PLAN.
AND AGAIN, ARE WE HALFWAY THERE? I CAN SEND OUT A, UH, MASTER PLAN IS VERY LARGE, UM, SEVERAL VOLUMES.
UM, YEAH, BUT I DID A SUMMARY FOR COUNCIL, I DID A PRESENTATION THAT KIND OF SUMMARIZED IT.
FOR ME IT'S LIKE, I WANT TO KNOW HOW MUCH OF THE MASTER PLAN ARE WE, ARE WE ADDRESSING HERE, RIGHT? IS IT 5%, 10%? ARE WE, AGAIN, AT THE BEGINNING OF TRYING TO ADDRESS EVERYTHING IN THE MIDDLE SOMEWHERE.
WE'RE JUST CONTINUING TO IMPROVE.
ARE WE MAKING PROGRESS? LET'S KEEP MAKING PROGRESS.
IF WE'RE NOT MAKING PROGRESS THEN FIGURE IT OUT ANOTHER WAY.
ANY, ANY QUESTIONS ON WEST MAIN DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENTS? OKAY.
FRANK WILL GET THAT MASTER PLAN OUT THE SUMMARY OF THE MATTER PLAN WEST TEXAS DOWNSTREAM DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENTS, UH, THE LAST ONE OF THE STREETS AND DRAINAGE.
SO EVERYBODY FAMILIAR WITH THIS? IT STARTS, LOOKS LIKE AROUND THE OTHER SIDE OF THE OAK TREE THAT THEY'RE WORKING ON TODAY AND GOES UP TO THE ROAD BETWEEN THE, UH, PERFORMING ARTS CENTER, LEE COTTAGES THERE AND THE OLD, UH, EXECUTIVE CATERING IF YOU'RE OLDER WESTERN AUTO BUILDING.
UM, AND THERE AGAIN, THAT'S, THIS IS, THIS IS ACTUALLY CONSTRUCTION.
THIS IS TAKE IT FROM TEXAS AVENUE TO DOWN TO GULF.
SO ONE OF THE QUESTIONS I HAD WAS, DOES IT TAKE THIS TO MAKE WHAT'S NO BEING WORKED ON NOW TO WORK? IT DOES NOT.
UM, OKAY, SO THE OTHER, THE SECTION THAT'S BEING WORKED ON RIGHT NOW IS THE CRITICAL PIECE.
UH, THERE WAS A SEVERE RESTRICTION AND FLOW IN THAT SECTION.
SO THAT'S BEING, YOU KNOW, UPSIZED.
WHAT IT'S, UH, EMPTYING INTO HERE ON, UH, FELTON IS, UM, THE PIPE IS, IS LARGE, BUT IT'S NOT SIZE TO WHAT THE ENGINEERS THINK SHOULD BE THE ULTIMATE CAPACITY.
SO, UM, IT WAS MY RECOMMENDATION TO LET'S, YOU KNOW, FINISH THE FIRST PHASE WE'RE WORKING ON AND LET'S SEE HOW IT, UH, PERFORMS. YOU KNOW, THE, THE, THIS PORTION COULD BE A FUTURE PROJECT, BUT, UM, I DON'T THINK IT'S GONNA BE A HIGH NEED BECAUSE I THINK THE EXISTING PROJECT WILL DO A LOT.
SO HERE AGAIN, THIS IS A CONSTRUCTION PROJECT HERE, RIGHT? THIS IS $5.3 BILLION IN DESIGN, RIGHT? OKAY.
BUT YOU THINK WHAT'S GOING ON NOW IS GONNA HELP A WHOLE LOT? YEAH.
AND IF IT, DOES THIS BE A MARGINAL BENEFIT? CAN WE LOOK DOWN LATER? SO KEEP THAT IN MIND AS WE TALK ABOUT SOME, THIS IS CONSTRUCTED ONLY.
THERE'S NO DESIGN THE GUN, THIS IS ALL OF IT.
IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT THAT LONG A DISTANCE LIKE 0.2 MILES.
UH, THAT'S ALL OF THE STREET SIDEWALK DRAINAGE PROJECTS THAT WERE PRESENTED TO US.
I KNOW SOME OF YOU THAT WERE IN THE BUILDING IN PARKS, UH, GROUP A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO, DIDN'T GET TO HEAR THE FIRST FOUR PROJECTS, BUT I THINK THE INFORMATION YOU HAVE IN THIS BOOK COVERS A LOT OF THE INFORMATION THAT WE DISCUSSED VERBALLY.
SO IF YOU WANNA READ THROUGH THOSE FOUR, YOU'LL BE CAUGHT UP WITH THE CONVERSATION WE HAD.
AND SINCE A LOT OF FOLKS WEREN'T IN THE BUILDINGS AND PARKS, UH, SIDE OF THE ROOM, UH, A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO, UH, YOU SEEMS LIKE YOU GUYS WENT THROUGH THE CONVERSATION PRETTY, PRETTY QUICKLY, I'M ASSUMING THOROUGHLY.
AND, UM, MUST HAVE GONE PRETTY GOOD.
JASON, I JUST WANT TO LET Y'ALL KNOW THAT I DID COME AND I WILL BE HERE FOR THE MEETINGS IF Y'ALL WANT TO HEAR MORE ABOUT RUSSELL PARK AND THE LIBRARY.
SO IF Y'ALL AT THE NEXT MEETING OR WHENEVER, IF Y'ALL WANT TO HEAR MORE ABOUT 'EM, I'M HAPPY TO TALK ABOUT 'EM.
[b. Discussion of potential items for future meetings.]
NINE MINUTES, SO WE'LL, WE'LL PUT THAT ON THE AGENDA FOR NEXT, NEXT TIME.UM, I'M JUST GONNA ASK EVERYBODY HERE THINK YOU'RE FAMILIAR ENOUGH AND UNDERSTAND THE SCOPES OF WORK TO, IN YOUR MIND, PRIORITIZE THE WAY YOU THINK, UH, MONEY SHOULD BE SPENT.
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DON'T HAVE A DOLLAR VALUE YET, BUT, BUT IF YOU WERE GONNA PICK THE MOST IMPORTANT, AND WE'LL GET TO A RANKING SESSION HERE PRETTY SOON.UM, AND AGAIN, PROBABLY WHAT WE'LL DO NEXT WEEK IS WE'LL START OUT WITH HOW ARE WE GONNA RANK A PART OR A SIDEWALK AGAINST THE STREET AND DRAINAGE, RIGHT? ARE WE CONSIDERING THEM ALL EQUAL OR ARE WE CONSIDERING, SHOULD WE ADDRESS SOME OF THE DRAINAGE, SOME OF THE FLOODING ISSUES IN NEIGHBORHOODS? SHOULD WE ADDRESS SOME OF THE, THE, UH, THE A DA COMPLIANCE ISSUES THROUGHOUT THE CITY? SHOULD WE LOOK AT THE LARGER IMPACT MOBILITY PROJECTS? AND SHOULD WE LOOK AT THE ONGOING EVERY YEAR STREET RECONSTRUCTION PROJECT? THAT'S PROBABLY, SOMETIMES THEY FEEL LIKE THEY'RE SPINNING THEIR WHEELS AND NOT CATCHING UP, BUT WE KNOW THEY ARE.
'CAUSE THEY'RE, THEY'RE, THEY'RE IMPROVING EVERY YEAR.
WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT HOW WE PUT ALL THIS AGAINST EACH OTHER.
WE PROBABLY GOT A LITTLE BIT OF INFORMATION TODAY ON A, YOU KNOW, ONE OR TWO PROJECTS AND MAYBE GO, HEY, YOU KNOW, BE NICE, BUT, YOU KNOW, MAYBE NOT RIGHT NOW AND MIGHT BE ON THE TAIL END, BUT STILL SOMEBODY MAY HAVE SOME THOUGHTS ABOUT THAT YOU MAY WANT TO, YOU WANT, WANT TO TALK ABOUT.
SO, UH, EVERYBODY FEEL LIKE YOU GOT ENOUGH INFORMATION, KNOWLEDGE TO START KIND OF PULLING ALL THIS TOGETHER AND TRYING TO ASSEMBLE SOME BEGINNING OF A RECOMMENDATION.
UM, I, I THINK IT WOULD BE, FOR ME, IT'S HARD TO RANK, RIGHT? LIKE A, A MOBILITY TO, I DON'T KNOW, SAY I THINK HAVING GROUPINGS AND RANKING THE GROUPINGS, RIGHT? IT WOULD BE BEST.
AND IF YOU RANK A ROAD TO A, A BUILDING OR, YOU KNOW, LIKE I THINK BOTH ARE REPORT, BUT THEY'RE JUST DIFFERENT APPLES AND ORANGES.
SO WE SAW THE FIVE CATEGORIES UP HERE EARLIER.
SO RANKING THEM WITHIN THE CATEGORIES I THINK WOULD BE BE A GOOD IDEA.
AND THEN, AND THEN WE COULD TAKE, YOU KNOW, THE NUMBER ONES AND TWOS AND YOU KNOW, HEAD TO HEAD WITH EACH OTHER OR, OR SEE WHAT THOSE DOLLAR VALUES ARE.
WE MAY GO, YOU KNOW, WHAT, UH, THE TOP TWO OR THREE ADD UP TO SOMETHING AND THEN, YOU KNOW, WE, WE JUST GO FROM THERE.
I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE OUTCOME'S GONNA BE.
I'M TELLING YOU RIGHT NOW, I HAVE NO IDEA.
I HAVEN'T RANKED, I DON'T HAVE A NUMBER ONE PROJECT.
HOW MANY ARE THERE? 31 YOU SAID? 29.
I DON'T, I MEAN I'VE, I'VE HEARD EVERYTHING JUST LIKE YOU HAVE, I WENT THROUGH THIS INFORMATION IN DETAIL LAST WEEK AND, AND WE'VE GOT MORE UPDATED INFORMATION TODAY.
SO I HAVE A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF EACH SCOPE OF WORK IN MY MIND.
YOU KNOW, I'M GONNA, I'M GONNA APPLY A, A, A PRIORITY TO EACH ONE OF THESE BASED ON THE GREATER NEED, YOU KNOW, TO START WITH.
AND, AND THEN, BUT WE DON'T WANNA LEAVE OUT, LIKE I SAID, ON STREET RECONSTRUCTION, YOU KNOW, LEAVING OUT SOMEBODY WHO LIVES ON A DEAD END ROAD AND THEY GOT POTHOLES JUST 'CAUSE NOBODY DRIVES DOWN IT.
THEY PAY TAXES TOO, RIGHT? SO WE, WE GOTTA, WE GOTTA HAVE A LITTLE BALANCE AND, AND MAKE SURE WE, UH, WE APPEAL TO EVERYONE IN THE CITY.
UH, BUT LIKE I SAID BEFORE, THIS ISN'T, IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT A DISTRICT BOND COMMITTEE.
WE'RE A CITY BOND COMMITTEE AND WE'RE REALLY WHAT'S BEST FOR THE OVERALL CITIZENS OF BAYTOWN.
AND WE'RE GONNA HAVE CHALLENGES.
I MEAN, WE, WE KNOW THAT THERE'S NOTHING THAT GOES WITHOUT FOLKS WHO ARE AGAINST OR, OR DON'T AGREE.
AND WE COULD HAVE 15 DIFFERENT PEOPLE THAN US.
THEY MAY COME UP WITH A DIFFERENT RANKING, YOU KNOW, PROCESS OR, OR A GROUP OF PROJECTS.
BUT I THINK ONCE WE GET FINISHED THAT ANY OTHER GROUP THAT CAME BEHIND US AND DID WHAT WE DID WOULD COME UP WITH A VERY SIMILAR RECOMMENDATION.
SO WE'RE MEET WHATEVER THAT IS WEEK HERE OVER THERE.
I DON'T KNOW WHERE WE'RE GONNA MEET NEXT TIME.
WE'LL, YOU'LL SEND US AN EMAIL, RIGHT? WE'LL FIND YEAH.
READ YOUR EMAIL CLOSELY ON THE LOCATION.
UH, I I MEAN THEY DID SAY A COUPLE TIMES CITY HALL AND KIND OF BOLDED IT, SO IT'S NICE, NICE TO BE IN HERE, BUT OVER THERE WORKS AS WELL.
UH, FRANK, WILL YOU SEND US THE RANKING OF THE, UH, GROUPING ATTACHMENT APP SO WE CAN INCLUDE IT, DOCTOR, THAT YOU'VE PRESENTED AT THE VERY BEGINNING ON I'LL FIRST PRESENTATION? IT WOULD BE GOOD.
YEAH, IT'D BE GOOD TO HAVE JUST A LIST OF ALL, JUST SEND THAT OUT SO WE HAVE IT.
AND THERE'S NOT MUCH OF THIS INFORMATION BEING PUT OUT ON THE BAYTOWN WEBSITE UNDER THOSE.
IS THERE A REASON FOR THAT? UM, I THINK WE, BECAUSE THERE'S CERTAINLY QUESTIONS BEING ASKED THE WORK OF THIS COMMITTEE AND THE CIP COMMITTEE AND SEE WHAT, YOU KNOW, COUNCIL WANTS TO DECIDE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH.
RIGHT NOW, MAYBE IF SOMEBODY'S JUST LIKE A CHECK, IT'S LIKE, OH, THAT'S MINISTRY.
AND THEN THEY'RE GONNA SEE THIS, OH, THAT'S MINE, I WANNA GET IT DONE.
AND WE DON'T HAVE A FINAL, WE DON'T HAVE A PROPOSAL YET.
WELL, SO EVERYBODY WANTS STREET DONE.
WHETHER WHAT WE HAVEN'T LIMITED IS WHATEVER MATT HOLLIS WANTS TO WRITE ABOUT THE BAYTOWN SUMMIT AND YOU KNOW, WE'VE HAD SOMEBODY HERE AND IF THEY WANNA WRITE ABOUT SPECIFIC PROJECTS, THAT'S ACTUALLY OUR STRATEGY.
SO RIGHT NOW WE ARE RELYING ON, ON MATT TO PUT OUT SOMETHING THEY WANT TO PUT OUT THAT'S BRINGING AWARENESS THAT THIS IS BEING DISCUSSED BY A GROUP OF CITIZENS, UH, THAT'S NOT BEING DRIVEN BY THE CITY.
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TRYING TO LEAD ANYBODY IN, IN ANY, IN ANY DIRECTION AT THAT POINT.AND THAT WAS DELIBERATED ON OUR SIDE, UH, TO SOME OF THE COMMENTS THAT SAID, HEY, THERE'S NOT A PROPOSAL.
UM, AND BECAUSE THERE'S NOT A PROPOSAL, ANYTHING WE PUT OUT WOULD BE SECOND GUESSED BY EVERYBODY.
AND THEN THEY MAY START CALLING YOU AND TRY TO INFLUENCE YOUR DECISION.
AND WE DIDN'T WANT THE UNDUE PRESSURE ON THIS COMMITTEE, UM, JUST BEING DRIVEN BY THE CITY AS WELL.
SO WE'RE JUST TRYING TO BE VERY STRATEGIC WITH WHAT WE'RE PUTTING OUT.
UM, MATT'S PUTTING OUT WHAT, WHAT HE'S CAPTURING IN HERE, UM, AND, UM, WE'RE LEAVING IT AT THAT.
YOU'RE WELCOME TO WRITE LETTERS TO THE EDITOR,
WELL, SO, AND, AND I SERIOUSLY, BUT I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT AS A COMMITTEE THAT WHATEVER LETTER WE WRITE IS EX EXPRESSES WHAT THE COMMITTEE BELIEVES.
NOW ONCE WE'RE DONE, IF YOU'VE GOT A PERSONAL OPINION AND YOU WANT TO GO DO WHAT YOU WANT, BUT YOU KNOW, AS A COMMITTEE, WE'RE, WE'RE GONNA COME UP WITH A RECOMMENDATION THAT EVERYONE IN THIS ROOM IS GONNA AGREE WITH.
THAT'S THE GOAL HERE, IS THAT WE PRESENT A RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL ON WHAT WE BELIEVE IS BEST FOR THIS COMMUNITY BASED ON ALL THE WORK THAT WE'VE DONE, THE TIME WE'VE SPENT LOOKING AT ALL THIS, AND THAT WE'RE WILLING TO GO AND SAY, YEAH, I, I, I AGREE AND, AND THIS IS WHAT IT'S GONNA, WHAT IT'S GONNA TAKE.
WE DON'T KNOW RIGHT NOW, WE HAVEN'T GOT, WE GOT A A, A PRESENTATION A COUPLE, TWO OR THREE MEETINGS AGO ABOUT THE COST OF ALL THIS.
YOU KNOW, WE HAD, WE NOT SEEN THAT, WE PROBABLY IN OUR MINDS ALREADY HAD THIS, THIS LITTLE LIMIT ON WHAT WE COULD DO WAS $150 MILLION OF WORK WITHOUT ANY, ANY TAX RATE IMPACT.
DOESN'T MEAN IT'S FREE, BUT IT MEANS THAT THERE'S NO INCREASE.
AND THEN BEYOND THAT, ANOTHER A HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS FOR A PENNY, YOU KNOW, UM, THAT AGAIN IS NOT A LIMITATION OR IT'S NOT AN OPEN END.
IT JUST DATA THAT WE HAVE THAT SAYS, YOU KNOW, WE MAY GET TO 150 MILLION WORTH OF WORTH OF WORK AND SAY THAT'S ALL WE BELIEVE WE CAN RECOMMEND.
AND OR WE MAY GIVE SOME OPTIONS, YOU KNOW, TO, WELL WE WILL GIVE SOME OPTIONS TO CITY COUNCIL SAYING, WELL THEY DID THAT.
DIDN'T THEY DO THAT ALREADY THROUGH, UH, THAT CPD? WHAT'S IT CALLED? YEAH.
I, I DON'T, YEAH, THEY DID IT WHERE THEY CHOSE SOME ALREADY.
THEY DISCUSSED IT AND IT'S ON THE VIDEO IF PEOPLE WANT TO LOOK AT IT IN THE CITY.
SO WE'LL, WE'LL COME UP WITH A RECOMMENDATION AND, AND I I, I PROMISE ALL OF YOU, YOU'RE GONNA BE GOOD WITH IT BECAUSE IT'S GONNA BE OUR PRODUCT.
THIS QUESTION, UH, JUST MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND.
DID UH, YOU KNOW, SERGIO AND, AND UH, MIKE, UH, WERE BOTH ASKING THEM TO JUST GIVE US A LIST OF THE EVERYTHING THAT'S IN THE DIFFERENT GROUPS? IS THAT WHAT WE WERE SAYING? I THINK FRANK FOR THINK, WELL, FRANK'S GONNA GET THAT OUT FOR THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HAVING TO MAKE SURE.
WELL CAN YOU GIVE US A LIST OF A A, LIKE THE SPREADSHEET YOU GAVE US TO BEGIN WITH.
BUT THESE, THE PROJECTS GROUPED BY THESE CATEGORIES ARE CATEGORIES INSTEAD BY THE RANGE.
SO INSTEAD OF JUST ONE MASSIVE ROSTER LIKE HAVE SUBGROUPINGS MOBILITY DRAINAGE, THAT'S, YOU GOT THIRD THERE.
WHAT'S IN THE THIRD RIGHT HERE.
AND THEN PLUG THESE PROJECT IN THERE.
ARE THEY GROUPS? ALRIGHT, WE CAN JUST SEND US A PRESENTATION.
'CAUSE THEY'RE ON, THEY'RE ON THE PRESENTATION.
SEE HOW THEY'RE ALL WORDED ON THE YEAH, BUT OH NO, BUT THEY'RE ALL, THEY'RE ALL SCATTERED.
MOBILITY IS ALL OVER THE PLACE.
SHOULD KIND OF LOOK AT THIS WAS BASED ON THE DOLLAR VALUES.
THAT'S WHAT THAT'S WHAT'S ON THE SLIDE ONE GROUP.
WHAT'S ON THE BE EASIER TO, YOU HAVE CATEGORIZED ARE YOU HAVE CATEGORIZED ON THE SLIDES.
IF YOU COULD JUST SEND THAT ALREADY IDENTIFIED.
EVERYBODY'S JUST A GENERAL COMMENT.
EVERY TIME I SERVE A OLD'S ADVISORY COMMITTEES, I ALWAYS REMIND PEOPLE ABOUT THIS.
WE'RE GONNA COME UP WITH SOMETHING GOOD, BAD OR UGLY AND IT'S GONNA GO TO COUNCIL.
AND WHEN IT GOES TO COUNCIL, COUNCIL'S GONNA DO WHAT COUNCIL'S GONNA DO.
COUNCIL'S GONNA DO WHAT COUNCIL'S GONNA DO.
AND DON'T GET ALL BEAT UP ON YOURSELF IF THEY DON'T DO WHAT YOU WANT 'EM TO DO.
WE ALREADY KNOW YOU CAN TAKE THAT UP WITH YOUR COUNCIL PEOPLE.
THEY TAKE IT AND THEN THEY MAKE THE DECISIONS.
THEY, WE'VE BEEN CHARGED TO GIVE THEM A RECOMMENDATION AND WE'RE, THEY HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO MAKE THE FINAL DECISION, BUT WE'RE ALL GONNA BE THERE THAT NIGHT WHEN WE PRESENT OKAY.
AND IT'S NOT TO SAY YOU GOTTA TAKE IT WHERE WE'RE AT.
IT'S TO SAY THIS IS THE BEST WE COULD DO, BUT WE THINK HAS A CHANCE OF BEING APPROVED BY THE VOTERS AND WE APPROVE THE CITY OF MAYE COUNCIL.
WE'LL, WE'LL ALL, WE'LL ALL BE ON ONE PAGE BY THAT.
HAVE HOPE MEETING NEXT TUESDAY? YES, NEXT TUESDAY.
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TUESDAY.