May 20, 2025 PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION

PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.

UH, JANICE PRESENT? UM, AUGUSTINE? UH, RICK.

UH, WE GO TO ITEM TWO A.

CITIZENS' COMMENTS.

THE PURPOSE OF CITIZENS' COMMENTS IS TO GIVE ALL INTERESTED CITIZENS THE RIGHT TO EXPRESS THEIR VIEWS.

EVERYONE DESIRING TO SPEAK SHOULD HAVE EITHER SIGNED THE APPROPRIATE LIST OF THE FOUR YEAR OR EMAILED THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT PRIOR TO THE POSTED TIME OF THIS MEETING.

EACH CITIZEN SHALL GIVE HIS OR HER NAME AND ADDRESS IN ORDER TO PROVIDE A PROPER RECORD FOR THESE COMMENTS.

THE RULES ALLOW EACH PERSON ONE MINUTE TO SPEAK.

THE CITIZEN MAY PASS HIS OR HER TIME TO ANOTHER PERSON WHO HAS REQUESTED TO ADDRESS THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.

HOWEVER, NO CITIZEN'S REMARKS SHALL EXCEED THREE MINUTES IN TOTAL.

EITHER THE ONE MINUTE OR THE THREE MINUTE LIMIT MAY BE EXTENDED BY A MAJORITY VOTE OF THE COMMISSION.

I ENCOURAGE EVERYONE TO BE AS BRIEF AND TO THE POINT AS POSSIBLE.

PLEASE KEEP IN MIND THE COMMISSION CANNOT DISCUSS OR DELIBERATE ON ITEMS FOR WHICH PUBLIC NOTICE HAS NOT BEEN GIVEN ON THIS AGENDA.

ISSUES THAT CANNOT BE DEFERRED, EXCUSE ME, THAT CANNOT BE REFERRED TO ADMINISTRATION FOR ACTION, MAY BE CONSIDERED FOR PLACEMENT ON THE AGENDA OF A FUTURE PLANNING AND ZONING AGENDA.

DO WE HAVE ANYONE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK? NO.

TIM, CAN YOU SEE THE SIGN UP SHEET OR NAME? HI AUGUSTINE.

WELCOME.

THANK YOU THERE BEING NO ONE DESIRING TO SPEAK.

THIS CONCLUDES THE CITIZEN'S COMMENT PORTION OF THE AGENDA.

UM, I'M GONNA GO BACK TO ONE A AND CONSIDER APPROVING THE MINUTES OF LAST MONTH'S MEETING.

UH, CONSIDER APPROVING THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING HELD ON MARCH 18TH, 2025.

ANITA.

A MOTION.

DONNA, THAT'S, UH, IT SHOULD BE APRIL, I'M SORRY.

UM, ITEM THREE.

MADAM CHAIR, THAT IS NOT ON OUR AGENDA TONIGHT.

IT'S NOT ON THE AGENDA.

ITEM THREE A IS FOR APRIL.

15TH MINUTES.

AH, SO MINE SAYS CONSIDER.

OH, THAT'S RIGHT.

I'M LOOKING AT THE, YEAH, THAT'S RIGHT.

THAT'S RIGHT.

APRIL 15TH,

[a. Consider approving the meeting minutes of the April 15, 2025, Planning and Zoning Commission regular meeting.]

20.

CONSIDER APPROVING THE MEETING MINUTES OF THE APRIL 15TH, 2025.

ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? ANY ABSTENTIONS? THANK YOU.

AND

[a. Consider approving Palm Royal Estates Partial Replat, approximately 4.14 acres located southwest of Interstate Highway 10 at the intersection of Palm Royal Drive and State Highway 146 North. ]

WE CAN MOVE ON TO FOUR A CONSIDER APPROVING PALM ROYAL ESTATE'S PARTIAL REPL, APPROXIMATELY 4.14 ACRES LOCATED SOUTHWEST OF INTERSTATE HIGHWAY 10 AT THE INTERSECTION OF PALM ROYAL DRIVE AND STATE HIGHWAY 1 46 NORTH.

I WOULD NOW LIKE TO ASK MS. DMITRI TO, UH, STAFF TO SUMMARIZE THE ITEM.

HELLO, I'M DMITRI GIBSON FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.

UM, AND I'M HERE TO PRESENT TO YOU FOR THE CONSIDERATION OF APPROVAL.

THE PALM ROYAL STATE'S PARTIAL REPL AT 6 5 1 1 NORTH, UH, 6 5 1 1 NORTH SH 1 46, WHICH IS SOUTHWEST OF INTERSTATE HIGHWAY 10 AT THE INTERSTATE OF INTERSECTION OF PALM ROYAL DRIVE AND STATE HIGHWAY 1 46 NORTH.

UM, THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING A PARTIAL RE PLAT AND, UH, THE LEGALLY DESCRIBED AS SITUATED IN THE J ARMSTRONG SURVEY, ABSTRACT NUMBER TWO, LOCATED WITHIN RESTRICTED RESERVE, A AND D OF THE PALM ROYALS ESTATES FINAL PLAT, CHAMBERS COUNTY, TEXAS, TO CREATE SEVEN LOCKS AND THREE RESERVES.

UH, RESERVES A AND B WERE RECORDED ON THE ORIGINAL PLAT IN NOVEMBER OF 2022.

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AND AS OF SEPTEMBER, 2024 HAVE BEEN REZONED FROM GC TO MR TO ACCOMMODATE FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF SINGLE FAMILY HOMES.

UH, THE APPLICATION HAS BEEN REP, UH, REVIEWED, SORRY, AND, UH, WE FOUND THAT IT MEETS THE MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS OF THE CODE AND WE RECOMMEND APPROVAL.

ANY DISCUSSION FROM THE COMMISSION? YOU NEED A MOTION, PLEASE? SO MOVED.

AND A SECOND.

SECOND.

ITEM FIVE A IS CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDER, EXCUSE ME, A REQUEST CONCERNING A SPECIAL USE PERMIT ON APPROXIMATELY 5.94 ACRES AT 47 0 1 DECKER DRIVE TO ALLOW FOR THE CONTINUATION OF WRECKED VEHICLE PROCESSING AND SHIPPING OPERATIONS IN THE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL ZONING DISTRICT.

ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? ANY ABSTENTIONS? MOTION CARRIES.

I WILL READ THE FOLLOWING ONE TIME, AND IT APPLIES TO ALL PUBLIC HEARINGS.

THE PUBLIC HEARINGS TODAY, THE PUBLIC HEARING TODAY IS BEING HELD FOR THE PURPOSE OF GIVING ALL INTERESTED PERSONS THE RIGHT TO EXPRESS THEIR VIEWS REGARDING THE SUBJECT OF THE PUBLIC HEARING.

EVERYONE DESIRING TO BE A PART OF TODAY'S HEARING SHOULD HAVE EITHER SIGNED THE APPROPRIATE LIST IN THE FOYER OR EMAIL THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT PRIOR TO THE POSTED TIME OF THIS MEETING.

EACH PARTICIPANT SHALL GIVE HIS OR HER NAME AND ADDRESS IN ORDER TO PROVIDE A PROPER RECORD OF THIS HEARING.

THE RULES ALLOW EACH PERSON THREE MINUTES TO PRESENT INFORMATION.

HOWEVER, I ENCOURAGE EVERYONE TO BE AS BRIEF AND TO THE POINT AS POSSIBLE.

IF YOU ARE A GROUP OF PERSONS WISHING TO ADDRESS THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION ON THE SAME SUBJECT, PLEASE SELECT A SPOKESPERSON TO PRESENT THE INFORMATION.

AND IF ANYONE HAS ANY QUESTIONS, PLEASE DIRECT THEM TO ME.

[a. Conduct a public hearing and consider a request for a Special Use Permit (SUP) on approximately 5.94 acres at 4701 Decker Drive, Baytown, Texas 77520, to allow for the continuation of wrecked vehicle processing and shipping operations in the Light Industrial (LI) Zoning District. ]

IT IS NOW 5:07 PM AND I CALL THIS PUBLIC HEARING CONCERNING A SPECIAL USE PERMIT ON THE SUBJECT ITEM TO ORDER, I NOW REQUEST STAFF TO SUMMARIZE THE SUBJECT OF THE PUBLIC HEARING.

THANK YOU, TIM.

THE APPLICANTS SHALL USE THE COMMENTS PREVIOUSLY PROVIDED BY STAFF AS A GUIDELINE TO MEET THE CITY'S STANDARDS IN ORDER TO COMPLETE THE APPLICATION PROCESSES FOR BOTH THE SUP AND THE THE SITE WORK.

SO, SO GOOD EVENING MAD CHAIR AND THE COMMISSIONERS TEAM CHI HERE WITH THE CITY'S, UH, PLANNING AND THE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.

BEFORE YOU LEASE A EVENING, WE HAVE A SPECIAL USE PERMIT APPLICATION REQUEST.

SO THE APPROXIMATELY 5.94 ACRES SUBJECT SIDE IS ZONED LIGHTING THAT TRAIL LI AND IT IS LOCATED AT 47 0 1 DECKER DRIVE.

IT IS ON THE NORTH SIDE OF WEST BAKER ROAD AND ON THE SOUTHWEST SIDE OF DECKER DRIVE.

SO ON THE SCREEN YOU CAN SEE THIS IS A VICINITY MAP.

I'LL SHARE WITH YOU THE NEXT TWO, UH, PICTURES OF THE ENTRANCES.

SO HERE IS ONE ENTRANCE ALONG DECKER.

SO THIS IS A DECKER DRIVE ENTRANCE, AND HERE IS THE WEST BAKER ENTRANCE.

SO THIS PROJECT STARTED AS A CODE CASE MORE THAN TWO YEARS AGO.

AFTER SEVERAL ROUNDS OF DISCUSSION BETWEEN THE CITY AND THE APPLICANTS, IT WAS DETERMINED THAT A SPECIAL USE PERMIT WOULD BE REQUIRED IF THE OPERATIONS WERE TO BE ALLOWED TO CONTINUE.

THE APPLICANTS ARE REQUESTING A SPECIAL USE PERMIT TO ALLOW THE CONTINUATION OF EXISTING WRECKED VEHICLES PROCESSING RELATED OPERATION AT THE SITE.

AERIAL PHOTOGRAPHY ANALYSIS AND THE CITY PERMIT INDICATE THAT THE SITE HAS BEEN RUNNING THE OPERATIONS SINCE AT LEAST OCTOBER, 2022.

ON THE SCREEN, YOU CAN SEE A ZONING MAP.

SO THE SUBJECT SIDE IS ZONE, UH, LIGHT INDUSTRIAL SURROUNDING AREAS ARE PRETTY MUCH HEAVY INDUSTRIAL.

A SITE WORK PERMIT APPLICATION FOR THE SAME SUBJECT SITE WAS SUBMITTED IN MARCH, 2025.

SO THE SIDEWALK WORK PERMIT AND THE LEASE, UH, SUP HAVE BEEN PROCESSED SIMULTANEOUSLY.

MULTIPLE CT DEPARTMENTS HAVE COMPLETED THEIR PRELIMINARY REVIEWS OF THE PROJECT SITE.

THE APPLICANTS HAVE BEEN INFORMED OF THE NEED TO GET AN APPROVED SUP BEFORE ANY OTHER PERMITS WOULD BE CONSIDERED FOR POTENTIAL APPROVAL ON THIS SUBJECT PROPERTY.

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SO HERE IS A SITE PLAN AND I WILL SHARE WITH YOU ON A FEW POINTS, WHAT ARE THE POINTS TO BE ADDRESSED ON THIS SITE.

LET ME PULL, LET ME PULL UP LAST SLIDE.

HOLD ON ONE MINUTE.

MAYBE THEY'RE NOT THERE.

I THINK THOSE WERE IN OUR PACKET AT ONE TIME.

FOR SOME REASON IT'S NOT VERY COOPERATING, BUT ALLOW ME TO DESCRIBE TO YOU VERBALLY.

SUBMITTED THIS, UH, I INQUIRED ABOUT THIS, THAT IF I CAN PURCHASE THIS PROPERTY AT THAT TIME, UH, AND DO MY OPERATION, BECAUSE WE HAVE A SIMILAR BUSINESS IN SAVANNAH AND GEORGIA AND NEW JERSEY.

SO THANK YOU.

SO FOR EXAMPLE, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT REQUIRES A MINIMUM OF 24 FOOT WIDE UN UNOBSTRUCTED, UNOBSTRUCTED FIRE LANE HERE.

THIS, SO THIS IS CURRENTLY SHOWN AS A 16 FOOT WIDE PATH HERE, AND THE FIRE DEPARTMENT REQUIRES A MINIMUM OF 25, UH, 24 FOOT WIDE UNOBSTRUCTED FIRE LANE.

SO ENGINEERING DRIVE DRIVEWAY ALONG BAKER ROAD ENTRANCE HERE.

IT DOES NOT MEET THE CITY'S ORDINANCE.

SO THE SECTION NUMBER 1 0 9 DASH SEVEN NINE UH, SHOWS YOU THE DETAILS, WHAT THE ENTRANCE REQUIREMENTS ARE.

AND, UH, RELOCATED THE FENCE ALONG THE BAKER SIDE, BAKER ROAD SIDE 20 FOOT TO THE NORTH.

SO IT'LL HELP THE VISIBILITY TRIANGLE THERE.

AND THE PAVEMENT IN THAT AREA SHOULD BE EITHER ASPHALT OR CONCRETE.

AND HERE IS THE UNDERGROUND DETENTION, THE BLUE SHADED AREA ACCORDING TO THE PROPOSED SITE PLAN.

AND THE ENGINEERING ALSO HAS SOME COMMENTS REGARDING HOW THE DETENTION AND THE DRAINAGE SHOULD BE ADDRESSED.

SO THESE ARE THE FEW EXAMPLES OF THE POINT THE APPLICANTS ARE STILL YET TO ADDRESS.

SO STAFFS STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL WITH THE FOLLOWING CONDITION.

ONE, THE APPLICANT SHALL ADDRESS ALL THE REVIEW COMMENTS IN THE SIDEWALK PERMIT COMPLETELY AND SATISFACTORILY TO MEET THE CITY STANDARDS AND THE REQUIREMENTS BY NOVEMBER 1ST, 2025.

IF FOR ANY REASONS THE REQUIRED SITE IMPROVEMENTS ARE NOT COMPLETED BY NOVEMBER 1ST, 2025, CURRENT OPERATIONS WILL CEASE AND LEASE PROPERTY WILL BE SUBJECT TO THE CITY'S CODE ENFORCEMENT DIVISION FOR FURTHER INVESTIGATION AND THE DETERMINATION OF SUBSEQUENT ACTIONS.

TWO, NO ADDITIONAL PERMIT APPLICATIONS WILL BE CONSIDERED PRIOR TO APPROVAL OF THE SITE WORK PERMIT APPLICATION.

SO THAT CONCLUDES THE STAFF'S REPORT.

THANK YOU SAM.

UH, WE HAVE FOUR PEOPLE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK AND PLEASE FORGIVE ME IF I'VE MISPRONOUNCED YOUR NAME.

ABDUL FAHIM.

THANK YOU, SIR.

PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.

YEAH, ABDUL RASHID FAHEEM, UH, I'M LIKE IN CHARGE AND THE OWNER OF THIS PROPERTY SINCE 2000, END OF 2021, BEGINNING OF 2022.

SO, AND, UH, LIKE IN CONTINUATION OF OUR SEVERAL MEETING WITH, UH, LIKE WITH THE OPTIONS HERE, INCLUDING MARTIN, AND, UH, WE WERE RECOMMENDED TO SUBMIT THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT FOR THIS PROPERTY.

INITIALLY WHEN I WAS, UH, PURCHASED THIS PROPERTY, I REACH OUT TO THE CITY AND ASK THAT FREIGHT FORWARDING, WE ARE DOING THE FREIGHT FORWARDING HERE FROM HERE FOR THE USED CAR.

SO LIKE OUR CUSTOMERS ARE BUYING FROM THE AUCTIONS AND THEN, UH, THEY ARE SENDING IT TO OUR, UH, OUR WAREHOUSE IN THIS, UH, PROPERTY SIDE.

AND THEN AFTER THAT, AFTER GETTING THE TITLES, WE ARE NOT DOING ANY OTHER PROCESSING ON THE CORRECT VEHICLES BECAUSE THE TERMS WRECKED VEHICLE OR JUNK MENTIONED THERE.

AND SO WE JUST, UH, ONCE WE RECEIVE THE CAR, WE GET THE TITLE, WE ASK FOR THE CONTAINER FROM THE PORT LOADED AND SEND IT OVERSEAS.

SO THIS IS THE SHIPPING OPERATION WE DO.

THIS IS THE ONLY SERVICE WE PROVIDE.

AND, UH, AFTER THAT, WHEN I

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AND, UH, I WILL SAY THAT YES, FREIGHT FORWARDING FOR USED AUTO IS PERMISSIBLE.

SO FROM THE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL PROPERTY.

SO AFTER THAT, WHEN I GOT IT, THERE WAS SEVERAL ISSUES ADDRESSED FROM THE CITY BECAUSE THE BUILDING WHICH WAS BUILT HERE, IT'S KIND OF, UH, EXCEEDING GOING TO THE NEXT, LIKE A PARCEL.

SO THAT WAS SOMETHING LIKE, UH, DISCOVERED AFTER I STARTED THE BUSINESS HERE LAST YEAR.

AND THEN I WAS ASKED TO REPL THE PROPERTY AND I WENT THROUGH THE PROCESS OF REPLANTING AND THAT, THAT ONE TO, TO MEET THE REQUIREMENT WHAT WAS SAID, UH, RECOMMENDED BY THE, BY BY HERE, BY THE CITY.

AND AFTER THAT I WAS, UH, YEAH, REQUESTED FOR DOING THE, THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT.

I DID THE USE THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT WITH THE ALL THE REQUIREMENT MENTIONED.

I REVIEWED THIS, UH, SITE PLAN AND, UH, IT LOOKS GOOD FOR ME TO GO AND PROCESS WITH THAT FOR THE CONCRETE OR ASPHALT, WE WOULD, WE WOULD CONTINUE TO DO THAT TO LOOK CLEAN AND NEAT FOR THAT ONE.

UH, WE ARE IN FAVOR OF THAT.

THE ONLY THING IS I, I'M JUST, UH, I WOULD REQUEST YOUR SUPPORT BECAUSE COMPLETION OF THIS PROJECT BY NOVEMBER ONE, IF I MISS, IF NOT MISUNDERSTOOD, IT WOULD BE A LITTLE BIT CHALLENGING BECAUSE AFTER WE ARE ALL LEADING IN JUNE AND JULY AFTER THE COMPLETION, IF IT'S THE PROCESS ONLY THE PROCESS OF COMPLETING THE PERMITS AND THE PERMITS, LIKE GIVING THE PERMITS AUTHORIZATION AND APPROVAL, THAT WOULD BE FINE.

BUT FOR THE PROCESS OF THE WORK, BECAUSE THERE'S A HUGE AMOUNT OF WORK NEED TO BE DONE AND A HUGE FINANCIAL NEEDS, I NEED TO FIND LOCATE.

SO THAT'S SOMETHING I WILL REQUIRE YOUR SUPPORT TO.

LET ME, BECAUSE WE ARE A SMALL BUSINESS FINANCIAL AFFORDABILITY, I HAVE TO FIND SOME FINANCIAL SOURCES TO, TO MANAGE FOR THE, FOR THE SITE WORK BECAUSE THERE'S A HUGE SITE WORK.

I, I THINK WHAT REACH DEFINITELY TO $1 MILLION.

SO THAT'S SOMETHING I WOULD REQUIRE YOUR SUPPORT TO, TO GIVE ME SOME EXTENDED TIME FOR THE COMPLETION OF THIS PROJECT.

SO THAT, UH, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTION ABOUT THE NATURE OF OUR WORK, FEEL FREE TO ASK ME THE QUESTION.

BUT THIS IS WHAT, WHAT EXACTLY WE DO BRINGING THE CAR IN.

OUR CUSTOMERS ARE SENDING THE CAR BUYING FROM AUCTION.

IT HAS LIKE A GOOD CONDITIONS CAR.

IT HAS LUXURY CARS COMING, IT'S GOT CARS WITH THE ACCIDENTS.

AND THEN AFTER THAT WE COMPLETE THE DOCUMENTATION LIKE, UH, GETTING, UH, CONTAINERS FROM THE PORT LOADED AND SEND IT OVERSEAS.

THAT'S ALL.

UM, NEXT PERSON AND WE'LL HAVE TIME FOR QUESTIONS AFTER.

SO YOU RELEASED YOUR TIME TO HIM.

UH, LETI ALVAREZ.

I'M SORRY I DIDN'T SIGN.

OH, UM, THIS IS THE ONLY OTHER AGENDA I ITEM TODAY.

YOU DON'T DESIRE TO SPEAK.

THANK YOU THERE BEING NO ONE ELSE DESIRING TO SPEAK.

I CLOSE THIS PUBLIC HEARING AT 5:18 PM CONCERNING A SPECIAL USE PERMIT ON APPROXIMATELY 5.94 ACRES AT 47 0 1 DECKER DRIVE TO ALLOW FOR THE CONTINUATION OF WRECK VEHICLE PROCESSING AND SHIPPING OPERATIONS AND THE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL ZONING DISTRICT.

ANY DISCUSSION FROM THE COMMISSION? I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS.

YES, SIR.

UH, CAN I GET STAFF TO PULL UP AN OVERHEAD OF THE PROPERTY SATELLITE VIEW WITHOUT ALL THE SHADED AREAS AND THE ZONINGS MARKED? AND WHAT I'M, YOU'RE DOING THAT, I'LL ASK THE QUESTION.

WHO OWNS THE ROADWAY IN FRONT OF THAT? IS IT TEXT DO OF THE CITY? BECAUSE I'VE HEARD BOTH BAKER DRIVE.

WHAT WAS THE BUSINESS ON THE PROPERTY BEFORE THEY PURCHASED THE PROPERTY? THE SAME THING.

SO IT'S KIND OF INTERESTING THE HISTORY.

SO WHAT I COULD FIND FROM OUR SYSTEM, THE RECORD, THIS IS RECORD, LET'S SEE, THE PROPERTY, IT WAS CLAIMED THE PROPERTY WAS CLOSED ON THE CONTRACT ON DECEMBER 15TH, 2021.

AND THE, THE ZONING VERIFICATION, THE FIRST ONE FROM NOVEMBER 10TH, 2021, WERE PROPOSED TO USE AS AUTO SHIPPING, THE FREIGHT FORWARDING BUSINESS.

AND ABOUT ALMOST A YEAR LATER, ON NOVEMBER 8TH, 2022, ANOTHER ZONING VERIFICATION WAS MADE.

THE REQUEST WAS MADE AND THE USE WAS PROPOSED AS USE AUTO SALES.

AND, UH, WITH REGARDS TO SOMETHING PRIOR TO, UH, NOVEMBER, 2021, I DID NOT FIND LIKE A, AN INDICATION OF LIKE A CLEAR INDICATION

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OF PREVIOUS BUSINESS.

CAN YOU ZOOM THAT OUT A LITTLE BIT? AND CAN YOU SHOW ME THE EGRESS ENTRY SIZE TRAFFIC THAT'S COMING IN AND OUTTA THIS PROPERTY? YOU WANT ME TO ZOOM MORE? I WANNA SEE HOW THE TRUCKS ARE COMING AND GOING.

YOU MAY HAVE TO ENLARGE IT SOME MORE BEING INTO THE PROPERTY OR ON, ON DECKER.

EITHER WAY.

I DON'T KNOW WHERE THEY'RE EGRESSING COMING AND GOING.

I'VE HEARD THAT THEY'RE GETTING A LOT OF COMPLAINTS ABOUT TRAFFIC OF TRUCKS NOT BEING ABLE TO GET INTO THE PROPERTY AND IT'S BACKING UP TRAFFIC ON THE ROADS BOTH WAY.

AND THAT'S A CONCERN IN THE PROCESS.

SO I WANNA SEE WHERE THEY'RE COMING AND HOW THEY'RE GONNA, WELL, AFTER, TO ME, THEY COULD BRING A TRUCK IN THERE AND TURN IT AROUND.

SO THEY GOTTA BE COMING, COMING IN ONE WAY AND GOING OUT THE OTHER.

IS THAT A CORRECT ASSUMPTION? I I THINK IF THEY'RE GOING UP, IF THE TRUCKS ARE COMING UP, UH, NORTHWEST ON THE FREEWAY, THEY'RE GONNA TURN ON BAKER TO COME UP THAT WAY.

IF THEY'RE COMING FROM THE OTHER DIRECTION ON DECKER, THEY'RE GONNA COME DOWN.

SO THERE'S NOT ENOUGH ROOM TO TURN TRUCKS AWAY AND YOU'VE GOT TRUCKS COMING FROM BOTH DIRECTIONS.

THAT SEEMS TO ME TO BE A TRAFFIC ISSUE.

AND THAT MAY BE CAUSING THE COMPLAINTS OF TRAFFIC BACKING UP FOR LONG PERIODS OF TIME ON BOTH OF THE ROADS.

AND I'VE HEARD THAT THERE, THAT AT LEAST ONE COUNCILMAN IS GETTING A LOT OF COMPLAINTS ABOUT THAT.

SO IN THE SUP, I DON'T KNOW, DO WE HAVE ANY BARGAINING POWER? THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT ALLOWS US TO APPLY CONDITIONS, UM, AS A, A NORMAL REASON WOULD NOT ALLOW US TO DO THAT.

BUT A SPECIAL USE PERMIT DOES.

UM, JUAN, UH, MAS IS OUR CITY ENGINEER.

UM, CAN YOU ANSWER BEFORE THIS SITE PLAN IS APPROVED, UM, WILL THE APPLICANT HAVE TO DO A TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS? I ASKED THAT BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE THE LIST OF CONDITIONS IN FRONT OF ME.

WE, WE MADE COMMENTS ABOUT THE DRIVEWAY THERE.

WE JUST, RIGHT OFF THE BAT WE COULD SEE THERE WERE SOME ISSUES THERE.

THEY HAVE NOT ADDRESSED THEM.

UM, I'M TRYING TO THINK IF WE ASKED EXPLICITLY FOR A TIA, THE REASON I'M THINKING THE TIA MAY NOT BE, UH, REQUESTED THERE THOUGH IS IT'S OFF OF DECKER DRIVE.

SO THE TIA WILL SAY, HEY, THERE'S AN INCREASE IN TRAFFIC.

THIS IS THE NEW VOLUME OF TRAFFIC.

UM, AND ESPECIALLY OFF OF DECKER ROAD, IT'S, IT, IT WOULDN'T, UH, INDICATE THAT AN IMPROVEMENT NEEDS TO BE MADE.

WE WOULD TYPICALLY MAKE COMMENTS ABOUT THE DRIVEWAY AND HOW THEY ENTER AND EXIT THE SITE MORE ON THE SITE PLAN WITHOUT A-A-T-I-A.

UM, SO IT DOESN'T SEEM TO ME THAT WIDENING THE DRIVEWAY IS GOING TO ADDRESS THE PROBLEM OF TRUCKS NOT BEING ABLE TO GET IN AND TURN AROUND AND BACKING UP DOWN THE ROAD AND BACKING UP TRAFFIC.

THAT'S, THAT'S THE CONCERN THAT I HAVE.

YEAH, AND BOTH, UH, FIRE AND POLAR WORKS ENGINEERING HAD COMMENTS ABOUT, UM, INGRESS AND EGRESS WITH THE VEHICLES.

SO RIGHT NOW THEY, I KNOW ONE OF THE COMMENTS FIRE HAD MADE WAS HOW CLOSE THE VEHICLES WERE.

SO THEY NEEDED A DEDICATED FIRE LANE, UM, WHICH KIND OF PROVIDES A ROUTE WHERE THEIR TRUCKS CAN ALSO TAKE.

AND THEN ALSO, LET'S JUST SAY ON BAKER ROAD, THEY HAD THEIR FENCE PRETTY CLOSE TO THE EDGE OF THE ROADWAY.

UM, THEY HAD SOME GUARDRAILS THAT WERE VERY CLOSE AND TIGHT.

UM, SO THAT WAS SOME OF THE COMMENTS WE HAD PROVIDED TO THEM.

TO ME IT DIDN'T LOOK LIKE IT WAS WIDE ENOUGH.

I MEAN, IT'S WIDE ENOUGH FOR, UM, TYPICAL TRUCK, BUT NOT FOR WHAT THEY WERE USING IT FOR.

SO THE TRAFFIC ISSUE REALLY WASN'T ADDRESSED AS FAR AS TRAFFIC PACKING UP THE SITE PLANS.

WE HAD NOT APPROVED THEM YET, NO.

AND SOME OF THE SITE WORK HAD NOT BEEN, THERE WERE COMMENTS WE PROVIDED TO THEM THAT THEY NEEDED TO WORK ON.

I, I THINK WHAT MR. MASIS IS, UM, SAYING IS THAT RATHER THAN A TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS, WHICH WOULD AFFECT THE PUBLIC ROADS, WE, WE WOULD PREFER AT THIS POINT THAT THAT BE SOLVED WITHIN THE SITE ITSELF.

AND NOT EVERYTHING HAS BEEN RESOLVED ON THE SITE PLAN.

THAT THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING.

YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING.

IS THAT GONNA BE ADDRESSED? UH, IF YOU GOT TRUST COMING IN BOTH WAYS, YOU GOT 20 FOOT LAYING OR WHATEVER IT IS AND YOU KNOW, THERE'S NO TURNAROUND IN THIS PROPERTY THAT I WAS ABLE TO FIGURE OUT.

TO DO THOSE IMPROVEMENTS, WHICH WE UNDERSTOOD.

IF, IF THE COMMISSION WAS SO INCLINED THAT COULD BE ADDED AS A CONDITION THAT ALL, UM, TRAFFIC ISSUES BE ADDRESSED AS PART OF THE SITE PLAN PERMIT, WHICH WE WOULD DO ANYWAY.

BUT IF YOU WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT IT WAS IN THERE, THE COMMISSION COULD DO THAT.

MY LAST QUESTION IS, IS THAT THE PROPERTY OWNER YOU MADE A COMMENT IS, SO CLARIFY FOR ME, IS THE DEADLINE DATE FOR THE ZONING APPROVALS TO BE DONE IN PERMITTING OR IS IT FOR THE ACTUAL WORK TO BE COMPLETED? THE, UH, THE DEADLINE OF NOVEMBER 1ST IS TO BE COMPLETED WITH ALL OF THE SITE, UH, IMPROVEMENTS.

THE REASON FOR THAT IS, I'LL GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT MORE HISTORY.

UM, TIM ALLUDED TO THE FACT THAT THIS HAS BEEN KIND OF AROUND FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS.

UM, THE FIRST TIME WE MET WITH THE OWNER, FIRST TIME I GOT INVOLVED IN MET WITH THE OWNER WAS, UM, PROBABLY ABOUT A YEAR AGO, SOMEWHERE IN THERE.

AND WE TOLD HIM AT THE TIME THAT THESE WERE SOME OF THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT NEEDED TO BE MADE.

HE DID EXPRESS IT THE TIME THAT IT WAS GONNA COST A LOT OF MONEY, UH,

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SO WE ALSO GAVE HIM A DEADLINE AT THAT TIME TO, UM, TO, TO DO THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT, UH, TO APPLY FOR IT.

AND I THINK WE GAVE HIM A DEADLINE OF SEPTEMBER 1ST OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

IT ENDED UP BEING MARCH.

SO WE'VE, WE'VE BEEN VERY, VERY GENEROUS IN TERMS OF THE AMOUNT OF TIME NEEDED TO PREPARE TO, UM, TO SECURE THE FUNDS AND DO THOSE THINGS.

UM, SO WE'VE, WE'VE ALL TOLD WITH CODE ENFORCEMENT, UH, THIS HAS BEEN IN OUR SYSTEM FOR WELL OVER TWO YEARS, SO WE'RE NOW AT A POINT WHERE WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING AND GET IT DONE.

UM, AND UM, WHAT WHAT WOULD HAPPEN WAS WOULD BE IF IT WERE NOT DONE, WE WOULD BASICALLY, UM, RED TAG THE, UM, THE, THE BUSINESS AND THEN, UM, WE WOULD GO THROUGH THE COURT SYSTEM TO FIGURE OUT WHAT HAPPENS NEXT.

I'D RATHER THEM GET IT COMPLETED.

THAT WOULD BE, THAT WOULD BE A BETTER OUTCOME.

BUT AGAIN, IT'S JUST, WE'VE TRIED TO BE GRACIOUS AND WE'VE TRIED TO BE GENEROUS WITH THE TIME AND FLEXIBLE AND EVERYTHING AND, AND NOW WE'RE, IT'S JUST AT A POINT WHERE, UM, WE JUST NEED TO GET IT ACCOMPLISHED.

SO A QUESTION FOR THE OWNER, HOW MUCH MORE TIME WOULD YOU NEED? I THANK YOU.

APPRECIATE IT VERY MUCH APPRECIATE MARKING FOR THAT, FOR THE GENEROSITY ON THIS ONE.

SO THE FIRST QUESTION, IF YOU ALLOW ME JUST TO TELL YOU LIKE, UH, EXPRESS A LITTLE BIT HOW WE OPERATE ACTUALLY THE, UH, THE TRACKS ARE COMING TO THE DECKER DRIVE WITH NO ISSUES GETTING INTO THE PROPERTY PARK INSIDE THE PROPERTY AND RIGHT AWAY WITHOUT TURNAROUND GOING TO THE LIKE BECCA ROAD.

SO IT MEANS THAT EN ENTRANCES HERE AND EXIT IS THERE.

SO THERE'S ONE WAY.

YEAH, LIKE, UH, ENTRANCE AND EXIT.

WE ARE NOT USING ONE GATE FOR BOTH ENTRANCE AND EXIT BECAUSE DEFINITELY I WILL CREATE PROBLEM AND TRAFFIC ISSUES WITH THIS ONE.

EVERYTHING GOES VERY SMOOTHLY EXCEPT SOMETIME WHEN THE, THE TRAINS THERE.

THIS IS A PAIN ON THIS ROAD BECAUSE THE TRAIN THERE SOMETIME CLOSES THE ROAD FOR ALMOST LIKE 30 MINUTES, 40 MINUTES AND EVEN SITTING TO AN HOUR.

SO OUR TRACKS OUR DELIVERIES ALL LIKE THREE, FOUR TRACKS COMES, BUT ALL THOSE THREE, FOUR TRACKS, THEY CAN, THEY ARE ABLE TO GET INSIDE THE PROPERTY WITHOUT ANY BLOCKAGE TO THE ROAD.

SO THAT'S, THAT'S THE QUESTION FOR THAT ONE.

JUST, UH, FOR THE FILE FOR THE THAT ONE, WE WILL TRY OUR BEST.

UH, WE PUT OUR EFFORTS TO GET THE FINANCIAL SUPPORT FROM SOME SOURCES TO, TO GET IT DONE IN NOVEMBER, DECEMBER, BUT NOVEMBER IS ALSO GOOD, LIKE NOT GOOD, LIKE BAD TIMEFRAME.

BUT I ASK FOR FLEXIBILITY.

THINGS ARE COMING UP IN SOMETIME WHEN THOSE FINANCIAL FIRMS, I'M GETTING THE FINANCE SUPPORT, SOMETIME THEY WILL DELAY IT.

SO I DON'T WANT LIKE, LIKE THE CITY THANKS APPRECIATE FOR THAT, FOR THE LIKE THE HELP AND SUPPORT SO FORTH GIVEN TO US.

BUT IF IN CASE IT HAPPENS THAT IT'S DELAYED FOR A MONTH OR TWO MONTHS OR THREE MONTHS, I'M JUST A CAUTION OF LIKE THREE MONTHS FROM NOVEMBER 1ST ONWARD, THEN NOVEMBER, DECEMBER, JANUARY.

TO THAT, THAT'S, THAT'S SOMETHING I WOULD ASK THE, THE START OF THE WORK OR SOMETHING.

BECAUSE EVEN THE PROCESS IN GETTING THE COMPANY, LIKE THE ESTIMATE AND CODES AND FINDING THE CONSTRUCTION CONSTRUCTION COMPANY, THAT WOULD REQUIRE SOME TIME, A COUPLE OF MONTHS TO FIND AND CHOOSE FROM BECAUSE THERE'S A COUPLE CAPITAL PROJECT.

THAT'S MY ANSWER.

BUT WE WILL TRY OUR BEST.

WE DON'T WANNA ANY DISRUPTION TO OUR OPERATION BECAUSE WE HAVE HANDLING WITH SO MANY OVERSEAS CUSTOMERS.

I I, AT ANY COST I WOULD NOT DOING THAT.

BUT, UH, IF IN CASE THERE WOULD BE KIND OF, UH, LIKE SOME BURDEN OR SOME KIND OF HARDSHIP I FACED WITH, I NEED SUPPORT.

SO IT APPEARS THAT'S GOOD INFORMATION MARTIN.

BUT THIS HAS BEEN ONGOING FOR TWO YEARS, SO IF YOU'RE WANT AN EXTENSION OF TIME, YOU NEED TO BE VERY DEFINITE ON HOW MUCH TIME YOU WANT.

YOU KNOW WHAT I SAY, MAYBE TWO MONTHS, MAYBE THREE MONTHS, MAYBE FIVE MONTHS.

I MEAN, IF, IF YOU'RE GONNA ASK FOR AN EXTENSION, YOU GOTTA PUT A TIME PERIOD ON THAT EXTENSION.

'CAUSE IT'S BEEN GOING ON FOR TWO YEARS.

WHEN WERE THE REQUIREMENTS GIVEN TO THEM TO THE APPLICANT? UH, AT LEAST A YEAR AGO.

A YEAR AGO.

THAT, THAT'S, THAT WAS WAS ME IN THE ROOM.

IF THEY WERE GIVEN, I THINK SOME OF THOSE WERE PROBABLY GIVEN TO THEM PRIOR TO THAT, BUT I, I WASN'T AT THOSE MEETINGS, SO I CAN'T REALLY SPEAK TO THAT.

AND ALSO, THIS PROPERTY WAS IN THE MARKET WHEN WE PURCHASED IT FOR ALMOST LIKE OVER THREE YEARS OR TWO, THREE YEARS.

AND THAT WAS ALL, EVERYTHING BEEN THE LIGHT OF THE BUILDING, THE ELECTRIC AND EVERYTHING.

WHEN WE PURCHASED THIS PROPERTY, WE SPENT ALMOST LIKE SIX MONTHS, OR LIKE A YEAR, LIKE ALMOST EIGHT, NINE MONTHS TO, TO, TO, TO COMPLY WITH ALL THE REQUIREMENTS GIVEN FOR US TO GIVE US THE ATE OF OCCUPANCY IN THE LIKE, UH, FOR THE PROPERTY.

SO THIS WAS THIS BUILDING, I'M NOT SURE WHAT IT WAS BEFORE, BUT IT WAS IN THE MARKET FOR A LONG PERIOD OF TIME.

AND ALL THE WIRES, EVERY NIGHT WE WERE COMING, EVEN WHEN WE PURCHASED THE PROPERTY AFTER THAT, SOMEONE WAS COMING AND PENALIZING SOMETHING WAS LIKE THE METAL SHEET AND EVERYTHING, THOSE WERE TAKEN OUT.

SO THAT'S WHAT, WHAT WAS HAPPENING

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TO THAT.

AND EVEN WE REPORTED THAT TO THE POLICE THAT SOMEONE IS KIND OF GET USED TO IT AND COMING IN OVERNIGHT AND TAKING SOMETHING OUT OF IT.

EVEN LIKE THE METAL, THE ROOF METALS, THEY, THEY WERE TAKING THE, THE METAL FROM THE ROOF, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

SO THAT I, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT WAS BEFORE, BUT IT WAS A HEAVY AND INDUSTRIAL, IT WAS USED ON THE HEAVY INDUSTRIAL AS WE, WE, WE LOOKED IN THE, IN THE BUILDING BECAUSE WE DID A LOT OF IMPROVEMENT IN THE BUILDING INSIDE.

AND FOR THE TIMEFRAME TO BE MORE DEFINITE, UH, I WOULD SAY LIKE, UH, LIKE, UH, SO END OF JANUARY OR FEBRUARY, IF IT'S POSSIBLE, IT'S NOT POSSIBLE.

I CAN, I CAN UH, LIKE PUSH MYSELF.

I'M CERTAINLY NOT INCLINED TO SHUT DOWN THE BUSINESS' OPERATION AND LOSE THE TAX BASE AND PUT SOMETHING IN THERE THAT'S COMMENDABLE, BUT UH, THE TRAFFIC PROBLEM NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED AND I WOULDN'T HAVE A PROBLEM GIVING AN EXTENSION TILL DECEMBER 31ST.

UH, BUT THAT AT THAT POINT IT'S, WE'RE DONE.

COMMISSIONERS.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? I HAVE, I HAVE A QUESTION.

HOW MANY TRUCKS A DAY ARE WE TALKING ABOUT? IT'S ALMOST LIKE ABOUT PLEASE COME TO THE MIC SIR.

YES, IT'S UH, ALMOST ABOUT LIKE FROM 15 TO 25 TRACKS ON DAILY.

AND WE ARE GOING THROUGH APPOINTMENT BASIS.

IT MEANS EVERY HALF AN HOUR WE HAVE ONE ACCOMMODATING ONE OR TWO TRACKS COMING INSIDE.

IT APPEARS TO THAT YOU PROBABLY FILL THE SPACE WITH TOO MANY VEHICLES AND YOU NEED TO HAVE A LIMIT ON THAT BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO DO THOSE IMPROVEMENTS WITH AS MANY VEHICLES AS I SEE ON THAT PROPERTY.

UH, WE HAVE SOME KIND OF, LIKE, WE ALREADY THOUGHT OF THAT ONE ONCE WE GET PROBABLY WILL REDUCE OUR LIKE, OPERATION BY 50%, UH, TO HAVE LIKE, UH, PARTIALLY START WORKING ON ONE AREA AND MOVING TO ANOTHER AREA, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

OR, UH, ALSO WE ARE JUST PLANNING BECAUSE WE CANNOT STOP OUR CUSTOMERS IF WE STOP OUR CUSTOMER.

I HAVE A LOT OF EXPENSES.

I CANNOT AFFORD THAT.

SO, AND UH, AND THEN, UH, WHAT WE GONNA DO, WE HAVE SOME OTHER COMPANIES, EVEN IN BAYTOWN, WE HAVE WA EIGHT, THEY DO THE SAME BUSINESS AS MINE.

SO, AND THAT'S A RUSSIAN BIG COMPANY.

AND THEN WE HAVE SOME OTHER COMPANIES HERE AND AND ALSO WE WILL MAKE A CONTACT WITH THEM AND PAY THEM FOR LOADING AND SEND OUR CAR TO THEM.

SO WE ARE THINKING ABOUT THAT, UH, POSSIBILITIES TO FACILITATE THE PROCESS.

I I HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION.

SURE.

YOU'VE HAD A YEAR OR MORE RUNWAY, AND YET WHEN YOU ASK FOR AN EXTENSION, IT SEEMS LIKE YOU HAVEN'T STARTED THIS PROCESS AT ALL.

WHY IS THAT? AS I EXPLAINED THAT WHEN WE GOT THE PROPERTY, WE WERE GIVEN THE CERTIFIC OF OCCUPANCY AND WE SAID WE DO THE FREIGHT FORWARDING AUTO SHIPPING.

THAT'S, UH, WHAT TIM MENTIONED.

I DON'T THINK THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING.

I THINK YOU MISUNDERSTOOD THE QUESTION.

2021.

THE, THE QUESTION WAS WITHIN THE LAST YEAR YOU HAVE NOT EVEN STARTED THE PROCESS AS TO GETTING QUOTES.

YOU MENTIONED THAT YOU NEEDED TO GET QUOTES.

SO WHY HAVEN'T YOU EVEN STARTED THE PROCESS OF KNOWING WHAT THE CITY WAS REQUIRING YOU TO DO? I, AFTER THE MEETING WE HAD HERE, UH, LIKE, UH, FIRST OF ALL I SAID THAT UH, IF YOU GO THROUGH THE EASY WAY TO APPEALING, SO, AND THEN I START THE PROCESS OF APPEALING ON THIS.

AND THEN AFTER THAT, UH, MARTIN AND THE TEAM PROPOSED IT IS BETTER TO GO THROUGH SOP.

AND THEN I FIND THAT THE ENGINEERING FIRM, WHICH FINALLY I END UP WITH GRH, IT TOOK SOME TIME BECAUSE THESE PROCESSES, TALKING TO THEM, THEY'RE NOT VERY EASILY COMING BACK TO YOU.

IT'S TIME CONSUMING THE CONSTRUCTION WORK AND THIS TYPE OF, AND I WAS NOT KIND OF VERY MUCH FAMILIAR WITH THIS PROCESS THIS FIRST TIME I FACED WITH THAT.

SO I WAS TRYING TO, TO FAMILIARIZE MYSELF WITH THE PROCESS.

AND THEN WE DID START WITH THAT HIRING THAT ENGINEERING FIRM BECAUSE THEY NEEDED SOME MORE SURVEYS TO BE DONE.

THE BOND THAT REVISED BOUNDARY SURVEYS, THAT DRAINAGE THAT SOME OTHER SURVEYS WE, WE DID FIND LIKE OTHER COMPANIES AND FIRMS AND COMING, DOING THOSE SURVEYS TO GET IN THE, TO TO, TO MAKE THE SITE PLAN ON THAT ONE.

SO THAT'S, UH, I WAS NOT KIND OF DIRECTLY IN TOUCH AT THAT TIME, BUT, BUT I HIRED A CONTRACTOR, HIS NAME WAS CHANCE AND ALSO THE GRH JASON.

AND SO THEY, SO THEY, THEY, THEY START THE PROCESS EVEN I WAS NOT INVOLVED IN IT.

AND SOMETIME I WAS PUSHING THEM, I WAS EMAILING THEM, I CAN SHOW YOU THE EMAILS WHERE WE ARE, WHERE WE ARE BECAUSE I DON'T WANT THE CITY TO GET UPSET ON ME OR THEY THINK THAT I AM KIND OF LIKE NOT, UH, PUTTING THE, THE PROCESS IN PLACE.

AND THEY SAID, OH, WE ARE IN CONTACT OF THIS BOUNDARY SURVEY AND THIS AND THIS.

THEY WERE WAITING ON SOME SERVICES, THAT TYPE OF STUFF.

UM, THAT MR. BEARD IS TALKING ABOUT.

YOU'RE WELCOME.

MY ONLY COMMENT WAS THE SAME THING IS THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU'VE HAD A YEAR AND HAVE BEEN HAVING THAT MUCH DIFFICULTY TRYING TO GET IT DONE AND NOW IT SEEMS LIKE YOU'RE A LITTLE BIT LIKE YOU'RE ABOUT TO SIX MONTHS AND, AND I DON'T KNOW THAT EXTENDING THEM ANOTHER MONTH, IF THEY HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO GET ALL THIS STUFF DONE IN A YEAR, I DON'T KNOW THAT EXTENDING THEM ANOTHER MONTH WOULD HELP.

SO THEY'VE HAD A YEAR AND, AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT, HOW MUCH MORE YOU COULD EXTEND FOR JUST ANYBODY ELSE TRYING TO GET THIS STUFF

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DONE.

SO I MEAN, YOU CAN EXTEND IT.

I, I THINK WE'RE GONNA SEE 'EM BACK AGAIN EVENTUALLY.

I, I COULD, I COULD PUT A, A COMPROMISE ON THE TABLE THAT UM, IF WE WANT TO KEEP THE NOVEMBER 1ST, BUT IF, UM, MR. FAHEEM WANTS TO COME BACK AND SPEAK TO THE DIRECTOR ABOUT A TWO, THREE MONTH EXTENSION, SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THEN THAT COULD BE WITHIN MY AUTHORITY TO DO.

IF, IF YOU WERE TO GRANT THAT, OR YOU COULD JUST GIVE THEM, I THINK, YOU KNOW, 90 DAYS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

UM, BUT THEN THAT IF THAT WASN'T MET, THAT THE CAN, UH, THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT WOULD, WOULD BE, UH, RESCINDED.

SO I WOULD SAY ONLY IF THERE'S SOME PROCESS GOING ON AT THAT TIME THAT THAT WOULD BE EXTENDED.

THEY'RE STILL IN THIS SAME SITUATION.

I THINK WE'D JUST BE DONE.

SO YOU HAVE TO MONITOR THE, THE CITY WOULD MONITOR YOUR WORK IF THAT'S THE PROPOSAL I THINK YOU'RE MAKING.

AND THEN IF YOU'RE AT A SUBSTANTIALLY GREATER, UM, POINT OF COMPLETION AT NOVEMBER 1ST AND IT WARRANTS YOU TO CONTINUE ON MAYBE A, A MONTH BY MONTH EXTENSION AT YOUR DISCRETION.

I, I THINK I, I'M THINKING ONE EXTENSION OF THREE MONTHS.

I, I THINK, I THINK THAT'S A PRETTY REASONABLE COMPROMISE, UM, THAT IF THERE IS SUBSTANTIAL COMPLETION ON THE CONSTRUCTION DONE AT THAT TIME, THEN BECAUSE IF THEY ARE WORKING ON IT AND THEY'RE NOT DONE YET, I WOULD HATE TO SHUT THEM DOWN AT THAT POINT BECAUSE AT LEAST THEN THEY'RE MAKING PROGRESS.

BUT THEN WITH THE END DATE BEING, UM, WHAT'S THAT TICKET? DECEMBER OR JANUARY, UH, FEBRUARY 1ST, THEN THAT WOULD BE, UM, THE, THE END DATE WHERE THAT IF, IF IT ISN'T COMPLETED BY THEN, THEN THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT IS RESCINDED AND, AND WE HAVE TO GO THE OTHER ROUTE.

COMMISSIONER CARROLL, UM, WHILE I AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER BE THAT WE DON'T WANNA SHUT DOWN THE BUSINESS IN OUR AREA, UM, AND WHAT OTHERS HAVE STATED THAT YOU'VE HAD LONG A PERIOD OF TIME TO ADDRESS THESE ISSUES.

AND I UNDERSTAND GOING THROUGH CONTRACTORS AND, AND GETTING BIDS AND GETTING PEOPLE INVOLVED.

AND QUITE HONESTLY, I'M IN YOUR SAME BUSINESS JUST NOT SHIPPING CARS.

AND I UNDERSTAND THE, THE, THE, THE CHALLENGES OF THAT AREA.

I STILL HAVE, UM, A LOT OF CONCERN WITH THE FACT THAT THOSE, UM, REPAIRS AND RECOMMENDATIONS HAVE NOT BEEN STARTED AND THERE IS A LOT OF TRAFFIC CONCERN AROUND THERE.

UM, NOT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S WRECKS, THERE'S UM, UH, I BRINGING IN CONTAINERS WITH 25 CONTAINERS, 15, 20 CONTAINERS A DAY, 30 MINUTE INCREMENTS IS JUST NOT ENOUGH TIME TO SECURELY LOAD A CONTAINER.

UM, I I WOULD HAVE TO SAY, ALTHOUGH I WANT US TO HAVE GOOD BUSINESSES AND GOOD NEIGHBORS, UM, THAT I'M NOT SURE THAT THIS IS, UM, OBTAINABLE THAT ANY COMMENTS, I'M, I'M GOOD WITH STICKING WITH NOVEMBER 1ST AND YOU CAN COME BACK FOR AN EXTENSION, BUT THERE HAS TO BE A SUBSTANTIAL WORK ALREADY STARTED GOING ON.

SO MY CONCERN IS, IS THAT WE HAVEN'T ADDRESSED THE TRAFFIC ISSUE AND I THINK THERE HAS TO BE SOMETHING IN THIS SUP WHILE WE HAVE THE BARGAINING POWER THAT WE ADDRESS THIS TRAFFIC ISSUE.

WHETHER IT BE, IF YOU'RE GONNA HAVE ONE WAY EGRESS, THEN WE NEED TO SAY IT'S GONNA BE ONE WAY EGRESS IF MAYBE ELIMINATING PART OF THE INVENTORY IS MS. WHEELER SUGGESTED SO THAT YOU HAVE ROOM TO HANDLE TRUCKS SIT THERE AND I'M JUST, SORRY I'M NOT BUYING THE ISSUE THAT YOU DON'T HAVE TRAFFIC ISSUES OUT THERE BECAUSE I HAVE HEARD A LOT OF COMPLAINTS ABOUT TRAFFIC ISSUES AT THAT SIDE, BACKING UP TRUCKS TRYING TO GET IN AND OUTTA THAT PROPERTY.

SO, AND AGAIN, BUT IF WE'RE GONNA MAKE 'EM DO A TRAFFIC PLAN, THEN THEY'RE GONNA NEED A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME TO GET THE TRAFFIC PLAN.

BUT I'M NOT REALLY INTERESTED IN JUST GIVING A LOT OF EXTENSION 'CAUSE IT JUST SOUNDS LIKE TO ME THAT YOU REALLY DON'T HAVE A PLAN IN PLAY.

AND I GUESS THAT'S A CONCERN FOR ME.

SO, UH, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S A COMPROMISE HERE OTHER THAN WITH MARTIN HAS SUGGESTED, UH, IT'S COMING BACK IN, BUT SOMETHING'S GOTTA HAPPEN OUT THERE AND WHATEVER HAPPENS HAS TO ADDRESS THE TRAFFIC.

AND I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S SOMETHING THEY CAN HAVE A CONVERSATION, YOU AND WE COME BACK BEFORE WE APPROVE OR WHAT YOU, HOW YOU WANNA DO IT.

THAT'S, I DON'T KNOW.

I'M JUST, I'M TRYING TO MAKE SURE WE DON'T KILL A BUSINESS, BUT WE GOT ISSUES THAT HAVE TO GET ADDRESSED.

I I HEAR TWO THINGS ON THE TABLE.

ONE IS, UH, THE TRAFFIC CONCERN AND THE TRAFFIC POTENTIAL TRAFFIC STUDY, UM, AND THEN THE EGRESS IN INGRESS FROM DECKER OUT ON BAKER.

WELL THAT'S THE TRAFFIC ISSUE.

YEAH, SO, SO I THINK WHAT I HEARD FROM MR. MASIAS WAS THAT, UM, THE TRAFFIC STUDY ITSELF ISN'T REALLY GONNA HELP US BECAUSE THAT IS THE DECKER AND BAKER EQUATION.

WHAT WE NEED IS SOMETHING ONSITE, UH, DESIGN FOR THE TRAFFIC FLOW THAT'S GOING TO ELIMINATE THE ISSUES THAT,

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SO, UM, SO I THINK REALLY WHERE WE'RE GOING IS WE'RE LOOKING FOR, UM, THE OWNER'S SITE DESIGNER TO COME UP WITH AN ANSWER FOR THIS AND FOR THE CITY ENGINEER TO BASICALLY PUT HIS STAMP OF APPROVAL ON IT.

DOES THAT, DOES THAT, BECAUSE I'M, I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO IT AND MAYBE IT IS A, A, A VOLUME QUESTION AND HOW THINGS ARE TIMED.

UM, I I THINK YOU COULD EITHER COME BACK, UH, AT A CERTAIN TIME FOR THAT INFORMATION, UH, ONCE IT'S BEEN RESOLVED, UH, ON PAPER OR YOU COULD EMPOWER STAFF TO, UM, TO TAKE CARE OF THAT.

UH, IT JUST DEPENDS ON WHAT YOU'RE COMFORTABLE WITH AT THIS STAGE.

BUT THAT IS A CONDITION YOU CAN, YOU CAN PUT ON THE SUP AND THEN I UNDERSTAND THE SECOND CONDITION, UM, WOULD BE, AND I'LL BE RIGHT BACK TO YOU, IS, UH, THE NOVEMBER 1ST DATE STAYS WITH THE OPTION TO EXTEND WITH, UM, FOR THREE, FOR THREE MONTHS WITH, UM, C BEING ABLE TO APPROVE WITH STAFF BEING ABLE TO APPROVE IT.

COMMISSIONER, ARE, ARE WE ALLOWED TO ASK QUESTIONS OF THE NEIGHBORS THAT ARE SITTING HERE? THEY DIDN'T WANT TO SPEAK.

ARE YOU GUYS, COULD I ASK YOU A QUESTION? ABSOLUTELY.

IS THAT OKAY? AM I ALLOWED TO DO THAT? OKAY.

WOULD YOU, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TRAFFIC HERE, RIGHT? SO I THINK YOU WOULD BE THE MOST IMPACTED PERSON OR BUSINESS WITH THIS, UM, WITH THIS PROBLEM.

SO CAN YOU SPEAK TO THAT? YEAH, THANK YOU.

STATE YOUR NAME, MR. PROC AND YOUR ADDRESS PLEASE.

THANK, MY NAME, NAME IS MATTHEW PROCTOR AND I'M THE CHIEF OPERATING OFFICER OF BAYTOWN VETERINARY MANAGEMENT GROUP.

AND, UH, WE ARE PROBABLY THE ONLY NEIGHBOR IN THAT AREA THAT REALLY HAS BEEN SIGNIFICANTLY IMPACTED, UH, BY THIS BUSINESS BEING PUT NEXT DOOR.

I WILL TELL YOU THAT IF YOU HAD APPROACHED ME AND TOLD ME WHAT THE PLAN WAS PRIOR TO THEM PURCHASING THE PROPERTY, I WOULD'VE BEEN AT EVERY MEETING.

THIS BUSINESS BEING NEXT TO US HAS NEGATIVELY IMPACTED OUR BUSINESS IN SO MANY WAYS.

UH, I WILL TELL YOU THAT THE TRAIN TRAFFIC HAS SUBSTANTIALLY INCREASED SINCE THEY'VE GONE NEXT DOOR TO US 10 TIMES AS MUCH.

AND SO THE IDEA THAT THAT BUSINESS IS NOT, UH, UH, AFFECTING THE TRAIN TRAFFIC, IT FROM MY PERCEPTION, I COULD BE WRONG, BUT I'VE BEEN THERE FOR FOUR YEARS NOW, IN THE LAST TWO YEARS IS SIGNIFICANTLY WORSE.

HOW HAS THAT IMPACTED ME? UM, MY VETERINARIANS ARE CAUGHT AT THE TRACK AN HOUR LATE.

SO I HAVE MAD PEOPLE BECAUSE THEIR PETS ARE BEING SEEN.

UH, MY CLIENTS ROUTINELY GET CAUGHT AT THE TRACKS.

AND SO IF I HAVE TWO O'CLOCK APPOINTMENT, THEN THREE O'CLOCK APPOINTMENT NOW EVERYBODY'S COMING IN AT THREE 30 AND THREE 15 AND THEY ALL WANNA BE SEEN 'CAUSE THEY GOT CAUGHT BY THE TRAIN.

UH, I'M SURE THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMITTEE KNOWS THAT, UH, BAYTOWN HAS SOME, UH, NEW BRIGHT FUTURE AHEAD OF THEM.

AND SO I WANT TO WORK WITH OUR NEIGHBORS AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT BAYTOWN, THE CITY OF BAYTOWN HAS THE POTENTIAL TO GROW.

SO THE LAST OPPORTUNITY FOR WE THAT WE HAD THERE FOR A BUSINESS IS, UH, IF ANY OF YOU DRANK SCHLITZ BEER PROBABLY CAME FROM THERE.

SO THAT PROPERTY HAS BEEN VACANT FOR 30 YEARS AND IT IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO GENERATE REVENUE.

UH, WE HAVE AN ESCAPE PLAN, UM, THAT WAS ACCELERATED BY THE IMPACT OF OUR NEW NEIGHBORS.

SO, UM, WE KNOW AUTOZONE IS MOVING, WE'RE MOVING.

SO I BELIEVE THAT NEGATIVE IMPACT, UH, WON'T BE AS GREAT EXCEPT FOR THE TRAFFIC FLOW.

AND I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU NEED TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION.

AND I DON'T KNOW, MAYBE IF WE COULD SUGGEST THAT, BECAUSE I'M GONNA BE THERE FOR ANOTHER YEAR, YEAR AND A HALF, DEPENDING ON HOW WE CAN GET THINGS SETTLED FOR US.

BUT, YOU KNOW, MY SUGGESTION IS, IS THERE MORE APPROPRIATE LOADING TIMES, YOU KNOW, THIS IS NOT A SERVICE THAT NEEDS TO BE PROVIDED NINE TO FIVE.

COULD WE ADJUST LOADING TIMES THAT MAKE IT MORE APPROPRIATE FOR THE TRAFFIC FLOW AND FOR THE BUSINESSES THAT REMAIN IN THAT AREA? BUT FROM MY STANDPOINT IS, IS THAT I WANT TO WORK WITH OUR NEIGHBORS.

I KNOW THAT THEY'VE PUT CONSIDERABLE AMOUNT OF EFFORT INTO MAKING THE PROPERTY LOOK MORE PRESENTABLE.

UM, THEY'VE CLEANED THE PROPERTY, THEY'VE DONE THE LAW, THEY'VE PICKED UP THE TRASH.

UM, AND SO, YOU KNOW, IF THEY WERE ALLOWED TO PURCHASE THE PROPERTY WITH THESE CONDITIONS, I THINK I AGREE WITH THE COMMITTEE, THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME EFFORT PUT FORWARD TO MEET THOSE.

UH, BECAUSE THERE ARE OTHER BUSINESSES THAT HAVE TO MEET THE SAME STANDARDS.

BUT I BELIEVE THAT WORKING WITH THEM AND WORKING WITH THE COMMITTEE TOGETHER, UH, I I WOULD HOPE THAT THAT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO GO TO A REASONABLE RESOLVE WHERE THAT THE BUSINESS CAN MAINTAIN AND THE CITY CAN RETAIN REVENUE.

BUT I THINK THE BIGGEST THING THAT YOU REALLY NEED TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION, IT WAS NEVER BROUGHT UP, IS THE TRAIN TRAFFIC.

AND I WILL TELL YOU THAT IT HAS SIGNIFICANTLY IMPACTED THAT AREA SINCE THE THE BUSINESS STARTED.

YEAH, THAT TRAIN HAS MADE ME LATE TO THE DENTIST A COUPLE TIMES.

SO THERE IS A DIRECT LINK BETWEEN SIR, YOUR TRUCKS COMING IN AND OUT AND THAT TRAIN ISSUE THAT IS THAT WHAT I'M UNDERSTANDING? THEY LOAD THEM THE, THE, THE TRACKS.

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IT'S, IT'S IMPACTING THE SAME, THE SAME THING THAT THOSE TRACKS COMING TO OUR PROPERTY.

IT GETS STUCK ALMOST LIKE FOR HALF AN HOUR, ONE HOUR.

THOSE TRAINS ARE GOING FOR ALMOST AN HOUR.

THEY CLOSING THE DOOR ROAD THERE ARE ALMOST LIKE CLOSER TO AN HOUR.

BUT YOUR COMPANY IS NOT LOADING AND UNLOADING ONTO THE TRAINS? NO.

NO.

NO, NO.

THAT'S WHAT I NEED TO UNDERSTAND.

NO, NO, NO.

WE DON'T HAVE A CHAIN.

BEFORE THE, THE PREVIOUS OWNER, I DON'T KNOW WHEN IT WAS, THIS IS GO, THEY HAD A TRAIN LOADING, BUT NOT US NOT.

SO WE HAVE TWO SEPARATE ISSUES HERE.

TWO SEPARATE, YEAH.

I I, IT'S INTERESTING TO ME THAT, THAT THEY'RE NOT LOADING ONTO THE TRAIN BECAUSE IT, WE DIDN'T HAVE THAT IMPACT UNTIL THE, FROM OUR PERCEPTION UNTIL THE BUSINESS WENT IN IN THERE.

BUT AS I SAID BEFORE, WE WANNA WORK TOGETHER WITH THEM.

WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THE BUSINESS IS HEALTHY AND WE CAN RETAIN REVENUE FOR, FOR BAYTOWN.

THE, THE TRAIN TRAFFIC IS REALLY, UH, IT'S QUITE A LARGE ISSUE.

SO SPECIFICALLY I WANNA ASK YOU, IS IT A TRUCK ISSUE WITH TRAFFIC IN FRONT OF YOUR BUSINESS? THERE HAVE BEEN MULTIPLE SITUATIONS WHERE TRUCKS HAVE BEEN BACKED UP AND THAT THEY HAVE HAD SITUATIONS WHERE THEY'VE KIND OF BEEN BLOCKING UP AND THEN BACKING UP DECKER DRIVE.

UM, BUT I ALSO FEEL LIKE THAT'S THEIR, THAT'S THEIR ATTEMPT TO MAINTAIN AN ENTRANCE AND AN EXIT.

SO, YOU KNOW, I FEEL LIKE THERE MIGHT BE A SITUATION WHERE, YOU KNOW, YOU GUYS CAN WORK WITH THEM, WORK THAT OUT.

BUT THERE HAVE BEEN THERE, THERE HAVE BEEN ISSUES LIKE THAT.

SO MAY I OFFER A COMPROMISE? MAYBE I, I'M OKAY WITH STAFF NEGOTIATING THIS, BUT I DON'T WANNA LEAVE IT OPEN.

THANK YOU FOR ANSWERING MY QUESTIONS.

I APPRECIATE IT.

YOU'RE WELCOME.

I DO WANNA MAKE SURE THAT I CLARIFY SOMETHING THAT, UM, AS THE NEIGHBORING PROPERTY OWNER HAS, UM, HAS MADE A COMMENT ABOUT, IF I'D HAVE KNOWN THIS, THIS WAS COMING IN, I WOULD'VE BEEN AT MEETINGS BEFORE.

TO BE VERY CLEAR, ORIGINALLY WHEN THE, THE NEW PROPERTY OWNER CAME IN AND SAID THAT THEY WERE USING IT FOR, UM, CAR SALES AND SHIPPING.

THAT'S NOT WHAT THIS, I MEAN, AND IN A TECHNICAL WAY IT IS, BUT IT IS NOT THE IMPACT OF A USED CAR LOT.

IT IS NOT THE SAME THING.

IT IS NOT THE SAME IMPACT.

UM, BUT WHEN THEY SAID IT WAS BASICALLY GOING TO BE A USED CAR LOT THAT'S ALLOWED IN LIGHT INDUSTRIAL WITHOUT ANY SPECIAL CONDITIONS, THAT'S AN EASY, THAT'S AN EASY ONE.

SO WHEN THAT WAS FIRST ASKED, UH, THE FIRST TWO TIMES IT WAS ASKED, THAT WAS WHAT THE CITY WAS UNDER, THE IMPRESSION WAS THIS IS A USED CAR LOT.

UM, WHEN IT WAS UNDER OPERATION AND THINGS WERE GOING, THAT'S WHEN WE GOT NEWS THAT IT WAS LIKE, THIS IS NOT USED CAR LOT.

AND SO WE HAD TO SEND PEOPLE OUT TO, TO START CODE ENFORCEMENT.

AND THAT'S KIND OF HOW THIS GOT STARTED.

SO, SO I, I UNDERSTAND WHERE MR. FAME HAS SAID THIS IS, THIS IS A A, THIS IS CAR SALES AND SHIPPING, BUT THE IMPACT IS THE SAME AS A SALVAGE YARD.

THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE.

THAT'S HOW IT OPERATES.

THAT'S WHAT, THAT'S HOW IT FUNCTIONS.

SO MR. FAHEEM, MAY I ASK YOU, UM, YOU'RE A VERY INTELLIGENT MAN.

YOU SAID YOU HAVE LOCATIONS LIKE THIS IN NEW JERSEY AND SOMEWHERE ELSE, YOU KNOW HOW TO GET THIS DONE, YOU KNOW HOW TO GET THIS DONE.

YOU NEVER FACED THIS ISSUE THERE.

THAT, THAT'S THE ISSUE.

I'M SORRY.

LIKE IN SAVANNAH? IN SAVANNAH WE HAD SAVANNAH.

IN SAVANNAH IN GEORGIA, UHHUH, , WE HAVE IT LIKE FROM 2017.

THAT WAS OUR FIRST BRANCH WHEN WE ESTABLISHED.

SO YOU KNOW HOW TO GET THIS DONE, YOU KNOW HOW TO GET THE WORK DONE THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE AND MAKE YOUR BUSINESS OPERATIONAL.

YES SIR.

AND SO I AGREE WITH THE NOVEMBER 1ST COMPLETION DATE.

UM, AND IF, UH, STAFF C FIT TO EXTEND FOR THREE MONTHS, THEN THAT'S THEIR CALL.

BUT YOU, YOU KNOW EXACTLY HOW TO GET YOUR BUSINESS UP AND RUNNING I BELIEVE.

NO, WE WILL TRY OUR BEST.

WE WILL TRY OUR BEST.

ONE THING I'M JUST KIND OF, UH, BECAUSE UH, THE PROCESS FLOW THAT UH, ONCE WE, I GET A CLEAR IDEA, OKAY, THE SOP IS APPROVED AFTER THAT THE SITE PLAN GETS APPROVED.

SO THAT'S DEPENDS SETTING THE TIMEFRAME FOR ME BECAUSE I NEED A COUPLE OF LIKE ONE MONTH OR TWO, LIKE A MONTH AND A HALF OR SOMETHING TO FIND A CONTRACTOR AND GET THE BEDS.

I CANNOT START THERE WITHOUT GETTING LIKE A, A COMPLETE SITE PLAN IN MY HAND AFTER APPROVED SITE PLAN.

I HAVE SOMEONE I COULD DO A SITE PLAN FOR YOU IN TWO WEEKS.

BUT ANYWAY, THAT'S NO THE SITE PLAN IS THERE NOT APPROVAL PROJECT.

I'M JUST, THERE'S NO COMMISSION FOR THAT.

NOT LOOKING FOR COMMISSION.

WE WANT YOUR BUSINESS TO BE SUCCESSFUL.

I'M JUST SAYING THERE THE TIMELINE THAT YOU'RE OUTLINING.

'CAUSE SOME OF US UP HERE DO THIS EVERY DAY THAT YOU MIGHT NOT NEED THAT MUCH TIME.

YOU JUST HAVE TO GET IT.

JUST DO IT.

MA'AM, MA'AM.

CHAIR.

I ONE QUESTION STAFF COMMISSIONER, WAS THAT JUST IMAGINING IT 'CAUSE YOU MADE A COMMENT ABOUT HOURS WAS I WAS JUST IMAGINING IN THE REPORT THAT THEY WERE WORKING TWO SHIFTS THAT WERE GONNA WORK.

TWO, DID I SEE THAT IN THE REPORT? I DID.

I SEE THAT IN REPORT Y'ALL WERE GONNA BE WORKING TWO SHIFTS.

I DON'T THINK, I DON'T THINK THAT THERE WAS A CERTAIN NINE EMPLOYEES AND TWO SHIFTS.

NO, NO.

I DON'T THINK THE STAFF REPORT MENTIONED THAT.

NO.

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I THINK THE NEGOTIATION DIRECTION, I THINK STAFF NEEDS DIRECTION.

I THINK THE DIRECTION THAT MAYBE THEY'RE LOOKING FOR IS ONE, THEY GOTTA ADDRESS THE TRAFFIC ISSUE.

SO THAT'S GONNA BE THE ONSITE DESIGN, THE TRAFFIC INGRESS AND EGRESS.

YEP.

AND THE AMOUNT OF INVENTORY THAT'S ON THE SITE AT ONE POINT IN, IN TIME.

'CAUSE YOU'RE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO WIDEN THAT AREA UNLESS YOU GET RID OF SOME OF THE INVENTORY.

RIGHT.

AND I THINK THE, THE RESULT OF THE, THE INVENTORY WILL BE A RESULT OF I IMPLEMENTING THIS.

THE, THE ONSITE DESIGN.

I'M NOT SURE I WANT TO LEAVE IT THAT WAY.

I, THEY COME SAY WE'RE GONNA MAKE IT 50 FEET AND THAT MAY NOT SOLVE THE PROBLEM.

I THINK THE DIRECTION IS YOU GOTTA DO SOME INVENTORY REDUCTION OR THE AMOUNT OF TRUCKS COMING AND, AND THE TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT PLAN AND, AND AT THIS POINT IN TIME, NOW YOU GUYS HAVE CONVINCED ME I'M NOT WILLING TO GO WITH EXTENSION THIS POINT IN TIME.

WELL GIVE THEM THE NINE, GIVE THEM TO NOVEMBER ONE AND GO WITH WHAT MARTIN SAID.

IF THEY COME BACK AND THEY HAVE SUBSTANTIAL WORK DONE, THEN WE'D GIVE THEM THREE MONTHS AND THEN IF THEY DON'T DO IT, FINISH IT IN THAT TIME, THEN THEY'RE DONE SUBSTANTIAL WORK.

YOU'D LIKE THE APPLICANT TO COME BACK TO PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION AT THAT TIME? YES, YES.

SUBSTANTIAL WORK THAT INCLUDES THE INGRESS AND EGRESS, THE AMOUNT OF INVENTORY MIGHT NOT BE FINISHED.

NOT, I, WE, WE CAN'T TELL PEOPLE HOW TO RUN THEIR BUSINESSES.

WE CAN'T DO THAT.

IT'S JUST THE WORK ITSELF.

THE SITE ITSELF, ITSELF.

SO THIS IS, THIS IS A, THIS IS A DESIGN ISSUE.

STAFF WILL, STAFF WILL DETERMINE IF THEY'VE MET THE DESIGN OR NOT.

WE, THAT'S WHAT WE DO.

BUT IT, IT IS IN THE DESIGN AT THIS STAGE.

AND AGAIN, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT INVENTORY AND TRUCK TIMES AND THAT SORT OF, THAT'S, IT'S JUST NOT MY AREA OF EXPERTISE.

SO I CAN'T, I I DON'T KNOW HOW TO TO DIRECT YOU ANY FURTHER THAN THAT, BUT, BUT IN TERMS OF THE WORK BEING DONE, ONCE WE'VE, ONCE WE'VE AGREED UPON A DESIGN THAT SHOULD ALLEVIATE THE PROBLEMS, THEN THE REST WILL BE TAKEN CARE OF BY STAFF WITHOUT A PROBLEM.

SO DO YOU, WOULD IT, WOULD IT BE OKAY AND I, I RECOGNIZE YOU, UM, TO HAVE STAFF APPROVE, GIVE A REPORT TO US, NOT THEM NECESSARILY HAVE TO COME BACK AND SAY, WE'VE GRANTED AN EXTENSION BASED ON YOU READY FOR MOTION.

ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR.

I'M READY.

CALL QUESTION.

NO, WE STILL, WE STILL HAVE, WE'RE STILL IN A DISCUSSION.

WOULD YOU BE OKAY WITH THAT? YEAH.

I, I DON'T, I'M SORRY.

GO AHEAD.

UM, MY QUESTION IS, I KNOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE ANCHORS EGRESS, CAN WE MAKE SURE THEY HAVE A TURNING LANE? LIKE GET THEM OFF OF THE ROAD COMPLETELY? UM, THAT'S, THAT'S A, I DON'T THINK CAN TEXT, I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT KIND OF DETAIL OF DIST LIE THAT WAS THERE.

AND, AND SO THAT WILL BE PART OF THEIR SITE PLAN DISCUSSION, BUT I THINK THAT'S A TEXT DOT ISSUE.

ANY OF THOSE DISCUSSIONS.

I I DON'T WANT TO, I HONESTLY DON'T.

IF, IF MARTIN AND HIS STAFF SEES FIT TO DEAL WITH HIM, I DON'T KNOW THAT THEY HAVE TO COME BACK TO US.

I A HUNDRED PERCENT AGREE WITH THAT, THAT I DON'T WANNA, I DON'T WANT US, WE DON'T, OUR JOB IS TO, TO TAKE CARE OF THIS AND NOT GET IN THE WEEDS AND AGREED AND MICROMANAGE IF, IF YOU'RE OKAY WITH US, GIVE 'EM NOVEMBER ONE AND THEN IF THEY'VE DONE SOME WORK, YOU SAY THREE MONTHS AND THEN IT DOESN'T AND Y'ALL GO TO COURT OR HE GETS IT DONE.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE SUP WITH THE, LET ME MAKE SURE I GET ALL THIS RIGHT WITH THEM ADDRESSING THE FIRE ISSUE AND ALL OF THE ENGINEERING ISSUES.

AND I THINK THERE WAS FOUR OF THOSE AND WITH THE NOVEMBER 1ST DEADLINE, AND AS LONG AS THERE'S MAJOR PROGRESS SHOWN MARTIN AND HIS STAFF HAS THE ABILITY TO EXTEND THEM FOR THREE MONTHS AND THAT IS A FULL STOP CLARIFICATION DESIGN AND THE ONSITE DIVINE GO AHEAD.

CLARIFICATION.

UM, THE SITE PERMIT, THE SITE WORK PERMIT.

NOW WHAT STAFF HAS ASKED AS A CONDITION IS THAT THEY MEET EVERYTHING THAT'S IN THAT.

THERE ARE, THERE ARE THINGS IN THAT SET OF COMMENTS THAT TIM DID NOT OUTLINE FOR YOU TODAY BECAUSE THERE ARE LITTLE BITTY THINGS THAT WILL BE TAKEN CARE OF.

WE WANNA MAKE SURE ALL OF THAT IS MET.

SO, OKAY, SO THEN I ADD UNDER ALL OF STAFF'S REQUIREMENTS.

IS THAT WHAT YOU NEED ME TO SAY OR THAT'S PRINTED, PRESENTED BY STAFF OR WHAT WAS PRESENTED BY STAFF? NO, BECAUSE HE DIDN'T PRESENT EVERYTHING.

DIDN'T PRESENT ALL IS INCLUSIVE.

SAY PERMIT.

SUP.

WE WANT EVERYTHING IN THE SITE PERMIT COMMENTS TO BE ADDRESSED.

EVERYTHING.

HOW ABOUT THAT? WE WANT EVERYTHING IN THE SITE PERMIT COMMENTS TO BE ADDRESSED WITHIN THE SUP.

CORRECT.

GOT IT.

AND DONE.

SECOND, THAT INCLUDES THE ON-SITE DESIGN AND INCLUDE, WE NEED THE NOVEMBER 1ST

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DAY.

AND IF YOU WOULD INCLUDE SOMETHING ABOUT THE TRAFFIC ISSUES BEING ADDRESSED, THAT COULD BE SPECIFIC IF YOU'D LIKE.

I, I DON'T SEE, I MEAN THE NEIGHBOR DIDN'T SAY THERE WAS TRUCK TRAFFIC ISSUES.

HE SAID THERE WAS TRAIN TRAFFIC ISSUES.

OKAY, LET'S HEAR THE MOTION FINALLY PLEASE.

I'M SORRY.

I AM GONNA ASK THAT THE MOTION BE RESTATED.

FOR CLARIFICATION FOR THE RECORD PLEASE.

SO CAN YOU RESTATE YOUR MOTION MA'AM? CAN MARTIN RESTATE IT? JUDGE JUDY, COME ON.

THERE IS A MOTION ON THE FLOOR, SO WE'LL NEED AN AMENDMENT TO THAT MOTION IN ORDER TO HAVE THE VOTE TO INCLUDE EVERYTHING THAT WAS STATED FOR CLARITY ON THE RECORD.