* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. O'CLOCK SAYS FOUR [00:00:01] 30. MINE SAYS FOUR [1. CALL TO ORDER] 30. WE'RE GOING WITH, WE'RE GOING WITH IPHONE TIME, RIGHT? YEAH. FOUR 30. WE'RE GONNA START ON TIME. WELL, WELCOME EVERYBODY. UH, FIRST THING I'M GONNA DO IS ASK IF WE HAVE ANYONE HERE FOR THE FIRST TIME. ANYONE PARTICIPATE WITH THE FIRST TIME? NO. ALRIGHT. EVERYONE KNOW WHY WE'RE HERE? , EVERYONE CLEAR? WE WANNA MAKE SURE WHY WE'RE HERE. YOU'RE THE RIGHT MEETING. ALL THAT GOOD STUFF. ALRIGHT, JUST, JUST SO WE'RE CLEAR, UH, MATT, GOOD TO HAVE YOU BACK. AND DAVE, UH, ROGERS LAST WEEK WE GOT MATT HOLS BACK. SO MATT WILL BE TAKING CARE OF US MAKING SURE THAT YOU, UH, DOCUMENT WHAT WE'RE DOING CORRECTLY, RIGHT? CORRECT. OKAY. TODAY'S MEETING, AS WE DISCUSSED LAST WEEK, IS GONNA BE PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD. WE WANT TO DIVE INTO SOME DETAILS. UM, SO I'M GONNA CALL THE MEETING DOOR. I ALREADY THAT SO A LITTLE BIT OF DISCUSSION BEFORE WE, WE BREAK UP. WE'RE GONNA TRY TO MAXIMIZE THE TIME WE HAVE TO LOOK AT, AT THE, UH, LITTLE BIT MORE OF INFORMATION. YOU SHOULD HAVE GOTTEN SOMETHING ELECTRONICALLY THAT WAS THIS, UH, THIS LIST OF PROJECTS AND HAD A LITTLE, SOME OF 'EM HAD A LITTLE BIT MORE DESCRIPTION TO HELP YOU BETTER UNDERSTAND. UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT THE PROJECT WAS ABOUT. WE TALKED ABOUT BREAKING INTO A COUPLE OF GROUPS, ONE STREET SIDEWALKS AND, AND DRAINAGE, AND THE OTHER ONE, UH, BUILDINGS AND PARKS, EVERYTHING ELSE. UH, THAT WAS NOT IN THE FIRST GROUP. AND SO I KNOW SOME OF YOU EXPRESSED AN INTEREST ONE WAY OR THE OTHER. I DID BRING AN ASSIGNMENT SHEET. WHEN WE BREAK OUT, WE'LL JUST USE, YOU, GO WHERE YOU WANT TO GO AND, AND WE'LL START THAT WAY. UM, I SPENT A LOT OF TIME FROM THE LAST MEETING PUTTING TOGETHER A BIG, UH, FOLDER OF INFORMATION TO HELP ME, UM, UH, GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS. AND, UH, I LEFT IT IN ANOTHER TRUCK THAT I'M NOT DRIVING TODAY, . BUT WE'RE CLEAR ON WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO, RIGHT? IF YOU'RE ON THE STREET AND SIDEWALK AND DRAINAGE GROUP, WHAT WE WANT TO DO IS YOU WANNA LOOK AT THE PROJECT. IT'S PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD WHEN YOU LOOK AT IT, BUT WHAT YOU NEED TO UNDERSTAND IS WE WANT TO BREAK THESE UP INTO MONEY THAT'S GONNA PUT ASPHALT OR CONCRETE ON THE GROUND IN THE NEXT FIVE OR SIX YEARS. AND MONEY THAT'S GONNA PLAN FOR FUTURE CONCRETE AND ASPHALT. THERE'LL, THERE'LL BE NO HARD SURFACE CHANGE AT THE END OF THIS BOND CYCLE, UH, IN THE NEXT FIVE OR SIX YEARS. SO TO ME, THERE'S A LITTLE DIFFERENCE THERE. WHAT YOU MIGHT WANT TO CONSIDER IS SOME OF THESE, THE, THE PROJECT LIST WILL HAVE A TOTAL DOLLAR VALUE DOWN THERE. AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE SMALLER PRINT, IT'LL SAY, BOND A CERTAIN AMOUNT AND GRANT A CERTAIN AMOUNT. YOU MAY WANT TO ASK, WHERE'S THE GRANT FROM AND WHEN WOULD WE EXPECT TO GET THAT GRANT MONEY? RIGHT? SO IS THAT MATCHING MONEY WE NEED TO PUT TO GET THE REST OF IT, OR IS THAT THE TOTAL AMOUNT OF THE GRANT? LET'S BE CLEAR ON WHAT THE DOLLAR VALUES ARE. SO IF YOU, IF YOU'RE NOT CLEAR, ASK THE QUESTION. SO I'M GONNA ASK EACH GROUP TO IDENTIFY SOMEBODY WHO JUST WRITES NOTES DOWN ON THE PROJECTS AS YOU GO THROUGH THEM. AND SO WE CAN, CAN, UH, EITHER HAVE SOMEONE IN THE ROOM THAT MIGHT, COULD ANSWER THE QUESTION RIGHT THERE, OR WE CAN GET ANSWERS, UH, LATER ON. SO WHAT WE WANNA MAKE SURE OF IS THAT WHAT WE'RE PUTTING FORTH IN A RECOMMENDATION, WE ALL CLEARLY UNDERSTAND THE OUTCOME, WHETHER IT'S PLANNING FOR A FUTURE, UM, UH, CONSTRUCTION PROJECT OR WRAPPING UP SOMETHING THAT'S ALREADY BEEN STARTED. AND THIS MONEY WILL HELP FINISH IT, RIGHT? WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THAT A COUPLE TIMES. AND THE ONLY REASON I SAY THAT'S IMPORTANT IS BECAUSE, UH, IF YOU READ THE PAPER TODAY, THERE'S STILL A LOT OF, UH, CONFUSION EVEN AMONG CITY COUNCIL ON, UH, CERTIFICATES OF OBLIGATION AND GENERAL OBLIGATION BONDS. WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE IS SOMETHING WE'RE GONNA TAKE TO THE PUBLIC THAT THE VOTERS ARE GONNA GET AN OPPORTUNITY TO VOTE ON. THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE IN THIS COMMUNITY. SO WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE VERY CLEAR ON WHAT WE'RE PRESENTING TO CITY COUNCIL AS A RECOMMENDATION AND TO VOTERS WHEN WE GO OUT TO TRY TO, UH, MAKE THIS HAPPEN. SO, ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THINGS WHERE WE HAVE PARKS AND WE HAVE BUILDINGS, EVERYTHING ELSE IS NOT A STREET DRAINAGE OR A SIDEWALKS, IS DO THE SAME THING, UNDERSTAND THE PROJECT. I THINK TODAY WE'VE GOT SOME NEW INFORMATION RELATED TO THE PROPOSED FIRE STATION. AND ALTHOUGH THIS PROJECT DIDN'T INCLUDE THE FIRE STATION CONSTRUCTION, IT DID INCLUDE MONEY TO PREPARE, PURCHASE LAND, ET CETERA, MAYBE DESIGNED FOR A NEW FIRE STATION. AND SO AT THE END OF THIS CYCLE, WE WOULDN'T HAVE A NEW FIRE STATION. WE DON'T WANT FOLKS TO THINK THEY'RE, THEY'RE GETTING A NEW FIRE STATION AND THEY DIDN'T. WE NEED TO BE VERY CLEAR IN UNDERSTANDING WHAT THE MONEY'S FOR IT IS FOR PLANNING FOR A NEW FIRE STATION. BUT YOU MAY WANT TO ASK, WELL, WHERE'S THE MONEY FOR THE NEW FIRE STATION GONNA COME FROM? SO, SAME THING WITH PARKS. THERE'S A LOT OF MONEY, UH, ALLOCATED TO A LOT OF GREAT THINGS HAPPENING BETWEEN THE WETLANDS CENTER AND THE NATURE CENTER. THERE'S ALL KINDS OF BENEFITS THAT WE GET FROM THOSE TWO, UH, [00:05:01] RESOURCES THAT WE HAVE HERE IN OUR CITY. I I KNOW THEY'RE, THEY'RE USED DAILY. THEY'RE EDUCATIONAL OPPORTUNITIES. THEY MAKE BAYTOWN A DESTINATION LOCATION. UH, AND SO THERE'S A LOT OF BENEFIT, RIGHT? SO WE HAVE TO CLEARLY UNDERSTAND THE MONEY BEING REQUESTED IN THESE PROJECTS AND, AND WHAT THE BENEFIT TO THE CITIZENS OF BAYTOWN AND THE CITY AS A WHOLE WILL BE. SO, ASK QUESTIONS. UM, HAVE SOMEBODY SCRIBE WHAT THOSE QUESTIONS ARE. AND I KNOW LIKE TRACY COULD PROBABLY ANSWER EVERY QUESTION RELATED TO THE WETLANDS. THE NATURE CENTER, WETLANDS CENTER ONES WETLAND CENTER. SHE'S CLARIFYING RIGHT AWAY. WETLANDS. WETLANDS, OKAY? AND, AND SO WE'LL HAVE CITY STAFF AVAILABLE, BUT IF THERE'S NOT AN IMMEDIATE ANSWER, JUST JUST JOT IT DOWN AND WE'LL GET AN ANSWER, UH, TO WHATEVER YOUR QUESTIONS ARE. UH, I CAN'T, I CAN'T SAY ENOUGH ABOUT, I, I WANNA MAKE SURE WE UNDERSTAND THIS IS, WE'RE JUST NOT GOING THROUGH THE MOTIONS HERE. EVEN THE NEXT STEP IS NOT GOING THROUGH THE MOTIONS. WE ARE TRULY GONNA EDUCATE OURSELVES ON WHAT IS NEEDED IN THIS CITY, UH, WHAT THE CITY HAS PRESENTED TO US AS NEEDS. ASK THE QUESTIONS. ASK ABOUT THE PAVEMENT CONDITION INDEX AND HOW THIS, THIS ONE RELATES TO THAT ONE. AND, YOU KNOW, 42 AND 52. BUT WHAT'S THE WORST? IS IT ZERO? IS IT, YOU KNOW, JUST, JUST ASK QUESTIONS. UH, WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO ANSWER EVERY QUESTION THAT, THAT YOU'RE ASKED AS BEST AS POSSIBLE. SO I'M JUST GONNA ASK YOU TO OPEN YOUR MIND BEYOND WHAT YOU SEE ON THE PAPER. UM, YOU SEE A RED LINE GOING FROM ALEXANDER DRIVE TO, YOU KNOW, DECKER DRIVE. IT LOOKS PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD. ASK THE QUESTIONS, WHAT'S INCLUDED IN THIS PROJECT? WHAT ELSE, WHAT'S THE IMPACT GONNA BE TO THE NEIGHBORHOODS? HOW ARE YOU GONNA MANAGE, UH, THE, THE TRAFFIC ON THIS MAJOR EAST WEST CORRIDOR? YOU KNOW, JUST ASK THE QUESTIONS. WE JUST NEED TO KNOW THAT THAT'S ALL PART OF PREPARATION. YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS ON THE STREETS IS THERE'S A LOT OF MONEY RIGHT NOW TIED UP ON GARTH ROAD. GARTH ROAD'S A COMMITMENT THAT THE CITY'S ALREADY MADE, RIGHT? IT'S KIND OF ALREADY COMMITTED. WE DIDN'T, WE DIDN'T COMMIT, WE DIDN'T RECOMMEND. BUT WHAT WE'RE BEING ASKED TO DO IS TO CONTINUE THAT COMMITMENT, OKAY? UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT COMMITMENT MEANS. UNDERSTAND, UH, THAT, YOU KNOW, ASK THE QUESTION, WELL, WHAT IF, WHAT IF WE DIDN'T DO THIS PART? WHAT IF THIS DIDN'T HAPPEN? AND WE'LL GET ANSWERS ON THAT, OKAY? IT COULD BE, WELL, THE, THE PROJECT DOESN'T MAKE IT ALL THE WAY TO, TO 1 46. IT ONLY MAKES IT TO MAKE A ROAD, ROAD ASK THE QUESTION, WHAT WOULD THE IMPACT BE THEN IF WE DON'T COMPLETE THIS GARTH ROAD WIDENING PROJECT? WE JUST WANT AS MANY QUESTIONS AND AS MANY ANSWERS AS WE CAN GET TO EACH ONE OF THESE PROJECTS. SO I DIDN'T DO A HEAD COUNT ON HOW MANY ARE IN EACH GROUP AS FAR AS PROJECT WISE, BUT, UH, I'D LIKE TO GO AHEAD NOW, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO BE IN THE BUILDINGS AND PARTS, EVERYTHING THAT'S NOT STREETS. I HAVE A QUESTION. YES. OKAY, GO AHEAD. I, A QUESTION FOR STAFF. YEP. I JUST WANT, I WANT TO CLARIFY IN MY MIND BETWEEN THE GEO AND COS AFTER SOME DISCUSSION I HEARD OF CITY COUNCIL THAT, SO IF, IF FOR INSTANCE, IF WE PUT A BOND PACKAGE OUT FOR ONE OF THE BOND BATTLES, IT DOESN'T, IT FAILED FAILS. IS THERE ANYTHING STOPPING THE CITY FROM COMING BACK WITH THE SEAL BOND AT A VERY SHORT PERIOD OF TIME? AND IF SO, WHAT'S THAT? WHAT'S THAT PERIOD OF TIME? UH, SO THE SHORT ANSWER TO THAT IS YES. UM, IF THE GENERAL OBLIGATION BOND FAILS WITH THE VOTERS THAN THE CITY IS PROHIBITED FROM ISSUING DEBT FOR PROJECTS THAT WERE SPECIFIED WITHIN ANY KIND OF DEBT CERTIFICATES OF OBLIGATION, OF COURSE, IF THE GEO FAILS, WE BE PROHIBITED FROM ISSUING GENERAL OBLIGATION BONDS. SO ANY DEBT WOULD BE PROHIBITED. THE CITY COULD CASH FUND THOSE PROJECTS, BUT IT COULD NOT ISSUE DEBT. AND THE CURRENT LAW STATES IT'S A THREE YEAR PERIOD. THERE IS, UH, LEGISLATION, UH, RIGHT NOW BEING CONSIDERED TO EXTEND THAT TO FIVE YEARS. SO, QUESTION ABOUT THAT. WILL THAT TAKE EFFECT BEFORE OR AFTER OUR BONDS GO AND GET VOTED? UH, WE, WE DON'T KNOW IF THAT WILL PASS. IT'S BEING CONSIDERED BY THE LEGISLATION. SO IT'S CURRENTLY THREE YEARS. IT'S CURRENTLY THREE YEARS COULD BE FIVE, BUT THE LEGISLATURE WRAPS UP BEFORE WE'LL EVER GET TO A BOND. SO WHATEVER THEY DECIDE, RIGHT? WE'LL, WE'LL KNOW, WE'LL KNOW BEFORE WE PROPERLY MAKE A RECOMMENDATION. ALRIGHT? AND CITY COUNCIL VOTES. SO THAT WOULD NOT LIKELY THOUGH THE, UH, WHATEVER THEY PASS WOULDN'T BE EFFECTIVE FOR GENERALLY IS THE FIRST OF THE YEAR OR THE FOLLOWING YEAR. ALL DON'T, DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT I I DON'T KNOW THE SPECIFICS OF THE LEGISLATION MOST OF THE TIME. SORRY. NO, YOU'RE RIGHT. YOU'RE RIGHT. IT'S NOT LIKE THE DAY THEY PASS IT, IT'S, IT'S ENFORCED. THERE IS A LITTLE BIT OF GRACE, PERIOD. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT PERIOD IS, BUT, YOU KNOW, IT COULD BE IMPORTANT. 'CAUSE IF THEY GO WELL, THE BEGINNING OF 2026, WELL THEN THERE'S A REALLY BIGGER NEED TO GO AHEAD AND GET WHAT YOU CAN DONE. WELL, I CAN TELL YOU IF IT PASSES IN NOVEMBER, WE WOULD [00:10:01] NOT BE ABLE TO ISSUE THE DEBT BEFORE THE END OF THE YEAR. YEP. IT, IT WOULD BE SOMETIME, YOU KNOW, THE FOLLOWING SPRING OR SUMMARY. CORRECT. YEAH. SO ANYWAY, SO WHAT WE'RE FOCUSED ON HERE IS THE, THE, THE BACKSIDE OF KEEPING IN MIND WHAT IF IT FAILS, WHAT IF IT FAILS? I, I'M NOT FOCUSING ON THAT. I'M FOCUSING ON WHAT WE NEED, WHAT WE GOTTA GET DONE AT THE END OF THE PROCESS. THE FOLKS THAT MAY HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO MAKE THAT DECISION ARE THE ONES THAT HAVE TO CONSIDER THAT, RIGHT? I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD BE BOGGED DOWN WITH WHAT IF IT FAILS AND WHAT DO YOU DO NOW? I THINK OUR JOB PRIMARILY IS TO IDENTIFY THE NEED THAT WE BELIEVE WILL HELP THIS CITY AND TO PUT IT FORWARD AS, AS A POSSIBLE GENERAL OBLIGATION BOND, UH, ELECTION, UH, ALL THE, THE, THE POLITICAL STUFF THAT GOES WITH IT AND THE RISK ASSOCIATED WITH FAILING. I THINK THAT'S WHERE CITY COUNCIL CAN THEN HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SAY, WELL, WE DON'T WANT TO RISK THIS RIGHT HERE. AND THEY, AND THEY PULL OUT AND MAYBE OPTION SOMETHING ELSE IN FOR DOLLARS, RIGHT? UM, THE BOTTOM LINE IS IF IT'S NEEDED, IT'S NEEDED. UH, IF IT FAILS, IT'S A HUGE IMPACT. MIKE, GOOD QUESTION. YOU KNOW, THAT, THAT THEY'RE LIMITED ON WHAT THEY CAN DO TO MAKE THOSE REPAIRS OR IMPROVEMENTS FOR A PERIOD OF TIME BY ISSUING DEBT. LIKE I SAID, CAN CASH FUND IT? BUT I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S THAT MUCH CASH TO FUND EVERYTHING, RIGHT? SO WE'LL BE TALKING ABOUT THOSE, UH, THINGS AS WE MOVE FARTHER. RIGHT NOW, I REALLY WOULD LIKE TO VET THESE THINGS OUT. I'M GOING TO ASSUME, UH, FROM WHAT I READ TODAY IN THE PAPER, THAT THE LIBRARY IS PROBABLY OFF THIS LIST. IS THAT RIGHT? I READ IN THE PAPER TODAY, THE LIBRARY'S PART OF NO, I I CAN ANSWER THAT. OKAY. SO, UM, I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW WHAT MATT AND THE DAYTIME SUN TEAM ARE TRYING TO ACHIEVE WITH THAT, BUT THAT I WOULD, I WOULD SAY THAT THEY ARE, UM, MISLEADING OR INACCURATE IN WAYS. OKAY. UM, OR WITHOUT THE FULL CONTEXT OF EVERYTHING THAT'S GOING ON WITH IT. AND SO THE, THE LIBRARY, THE INTENT OF VECTOR IS NOT TO DEMOLISH THE LIBRARY RIGHT AWAY, UM, OR JUST TO TAKE OVER THE LIBRARY. IT WILL BE MOST LIKELY A NEIGHBOR TO VECTOR REGARDLESS OF WHAT HAPPENS. IT WILL, IT WILL, WE PLAN FOR A LIBRARY TO BE POSSIBLY PART OF THIS PIECE. NOW, IF Y'ALL GO THROUGH THIS BOND, IF THE BOND COMMITTEE GOES THROUGH THIS AND SAYS, HEY, UM, THERE ARE THINGS THAT NEED TO BE ADDRESSED WITH THE LIBRARY, IT DOES NEED TO BE RENOVATED, OR, UH, WE THINK THAT THE LIBRARY IS TOO BIG OR THE LIBRARY IS TOO SMALL, AND THERE'S A RECOMMENDATION FROM THIS BOND COMMITTEE THAT YOU CAN THEN, UH, SAY, HEY, WE THINK IT'S A GOOD TIME TO REHABILITATE THE LIBRARY FOR $20 MILLION. AT THE SAME TIME THAT VECTOR IS BEING REESTABLISHED OR THAT VECTOR IS BEING ESTABLISHED. AND SO IF THIS BOND COMMUNITY DOESN'T WANT TO SPEND ANY TIME WITH IT, AND YOU SAY RIGHT NOW, IT'S FINE AS IT IS, Y'ALL HAVE THAT CHOICE, AND THAT'S OKAY. NO, THANKS FOR THE CLARIFICATION BECAUSE IT, IT SEEMED LIKE IT ALL OF A SUDDEN GOT PULLED INTO NO ANOTHER SCOPE OF WORK OR, OR MONEY. SO, OKAY, SO IT'S STILL ON THE, STILL ON THE, THE LIST, RIGHT? SO THERE AGAIN, THE, THE FOLKS WHO HAVE BUILDINGS, I KNOW YOU WANTED TO BE ON THE BUILDINGS AND INFRASTRUCTURE, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, GET INTO THE DETAILS, UNDERSTAND WHAT THE 20 MILLION IS FOR, WAS IT FOR RENOVATE, REPLACE, WHATEVER IT WAS. JUST GET INTO THE DETAILS. ANY ANY OTHER QUESTIONS BEFORE WE BREAK UP? I DO WANNA POINT OUT, UH, MIKE, MIKE WAS SUCCESSFUL AT GETTING SOME MINUTES, UH, IN YOUR PACKET FROM PRIOR MEETINGS. OKAY. YOU WANT A MOTION TO APPROVE? WELL, I, I WANT TO, WELL, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVEN'T READ YET. I HAVEN'T READ 'EM. UH, I DON'T KNOW THAT THEY'RE MINUTES TO APPROVE, BUT I WOULD RECOMMEND YOU LOOK THROUGH 'EM AND IF YOU FIND ANYTHING THAT YOU BELIEVE IS INACCURATE, UH, SHOOT A NOTE AND, AND GET SOME CLARIFICATION ON IT. UM, BUT ANYWAY, AND LIKE I SAID, UH, MARGARET, THE GROUP YOU'RE IN HAS GOT THIS RIGHT HERE ON THE FIRE STATION, THANKS TO THE CHIEF AND HIS TEAM PULLING THAT TOGETHER. OKAY. ANY, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? EVERYBODY CLEAR ON KIND OF WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO? JUST GET INTO THE, WE REALLY WANT TO GET IN THE WEEDS AND THE DIRT. ANYBODY, EVERYBODY GOOD? SO IF YOU'RE ON, UH, LOOKING AT PARKS AND BUILDINGS, IS THERE ANOTHER ROOM MANAGEMENT ACROSS, ACROSS THE HALL? THERE'S ANOTHER ROOM. KIND OF MAKE IT EASIER TO TALK IF Y'ALL WANT TO RELOCATE OVER THERE. AND WE'LL JUST START THAT WAY. WHO, WHO'S INTERESTED IN LOOKING AT PARKS AND BUILDINGS? AND WE GOT ONE OVER THERE AND WE GOT ONE OVER THERE. MARGA. ANYBODY ELSE? HOW ARE WE GONNA PULL ALL OF THE INFORMATION AT THE END? WE'RE, WE'RE GONNA, WE'RE [2. DISCUSSIONS] GONNA, EACH GROUP IS GONNA GET THEIR QUESTIONS, DETAILS, ALL THAT STUFF PUT TOGETHER. UH, WE WILL THEN PULL IT ALL, LIKE MAYBE EACH GROUP WILL HAVE A SPOKESPERSON, MAYBE GO THROUGH EACH ONE OF THEIR QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS AND WE'LL ALL GET THE REST OF THE INFORMATION. WE'LL, WE'LL PULL THIS TOGETHER, UH, AFTER [00:15:01] THE TWO GROUPS GET TOGETHER. ANYBODY ELSE, UH, INTERESTED IN PARKS AND, UH, PROBABLY THE BULK OF THE WORKS ON STREETS, SIDEWALKS AND DRAINAGE. SO, OKAY. YOU GOT, YOU GOT WHAT YOU NEED. THIS IS FOR CONSTRUCTION. THAT'S WHAT I WANT NEXT. PARKS AND INFRASTRUCTURE, PARKS AND BUILDINGS AND ALL THAT. YOU WANT ROADS AND ALL THAT. YOU WANT ROADS, INFRASTRUCTURE, DRAIN. SO ROADS, SIDEWALKS AND RANCH. OKAY. ALRIGHT, GOOD. I'M SORRY, I MISUNDERSTOOD. OH YEAH, WELL, LEMME SEE WHO LITTLE, HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE. SO THERE'S THREE, UM, THREE OVER THERE. THREE. GOOD. THEY CAN THANK YOU KEITH. SEVEN. WELL THAT'S, THAT'S INCLUDING, I THINK WE ONLY HAVE THREE OF OUR GROUP OVER THERE. OKAY. SORRY, I MISUNDERSTOOD. I I GUESS IT SHOULD CLARIFY TERMINOLOGY IS WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. SO WHO, WHO WANTS TO, UH, SOMEWHAT TAKE THE LEAD AND, AND GO THROUGH EACH PROJECT, START LOOKING AT ASKING QUESTIONS AND SOMEBODY WRITE DOWN, DENISE HAS A PEN AND PAPER OUT ALREADY. I HAVE NO CLUE, SIR. DO NEED MORE PEOPLE OVER THERE OR LEMME GO SEE HIM. AND, AND ACTUALITY, THAT'S WHY I WANNA PUT RANKING SO WE CAN WORK ON MOST RANK. THE TOP WAS NOTIFYING. SO WE'VE GOT THE FOUR BOARD COMMITTEE MEMBERS OVER HERE AND WOULD LIKE SOMEBODY, UH, TO TAKE NOTES IF YOU WOULD. AND OKAY. AND IF YOU CAN JUST AGAIN, BREAK UP AND PARTS RELATED, BUILDING RELATED, UM, AND AGAIN, IS IT MONEY TO DO SOMETHING TODAY OR IS IT MONEY TO PLAN FOR SOMETHING IN THE FUTURE? RIGHT? UH, AS YOU JUST DESIGN, GETTING THIS READY, PURCHASE PROPERTY, WHATEVER, UH, I KNOW THAT SOME OF THE BIG PROJECTS IN THERE RELATED TO WETLANDS SORT OF MERGING THE NATURE CENTER. YEAH, THE NATURE CENTER. AND THAT'S, THAT'S TWO OF, THERE'S, THERE, THERE ARE OTHERS. THERE'S, THERE'S, YEAH. ACCESSIBILITY THING. THERE'S, WE GOT, UH, PREPARATION FOR A FIRE STATION THERE. WE GOT LIBRARY PROJECT IN THERE. SO JUST GO THROUGH THOSE. AND AGAIN, IF YOU CAN JUST ASK ALL THE QUESTIONS FOLKS HERE, IF THEY CAN'T ANSWER, UH, WE'LL, WE'LL JOT THE QUESTIONS DOWN AND GIVE THEM TO THEM LATER AND THEY'LL SEE IF THEY COME UP WITH ANSWERS. SO KEITH, WOULD YOU KIND OF TAKE A LEAD AND WALK THROUGH, IDENTIFY, IF YOU LOOK WHICH ONES FALL INTO THIS CATEGORY? YEAH. I QUESTION FOR EVERYONE HERE. I KNOW IF Y'ALL HAVE SEEN THIS, BUT I ASSUME THIS, THAT WE RECEIVED TODAY, UH, CONTAINS THE PROJECTS PROPOSED WITH SOME DETAILS AND IS THAT CORRECT? THAT WHAT Y'ALL ARE DISCOVERY AND THEN THE LORETTA RUSSELL PARK IS, IS THAT THE FIRST ONE THAT EVERYBODY SEES HERE THAT'S ON THIS? UH, THAT THE FIRST ONE IN THE PACKET? YOU GUYS HAVE ONE? UH, AS TODAY, YES, WE'RE DOING PARKS AND RECREATION, EVERYTHING BESIDE THE STREET OR DRAINAGE. SO DRAINAGE. DRAINAGE, YEAH. SO THE, AND LO PARK WAS THE FIRST, THE FIRST ONE LISTED THIS TODAY. UM, I DUNNO WHY GOT THIS PLACE. I, THE AND LORETTA RUSSELL PARK, APPARENTLY THIS IS OUT OFF OF, UH, NORTH. OH, NORTH MAIN. SO, SO THIS, THIS PIECE OF LAND IS LOCATED, UH, YOU KNOW, WHERE NORTH MAIN AND VILLE INTERSECT CREEK MEMORIAL IS, RIGHT? OKAY. IF YOU TOOK A RIGHT ON VILLE, WHEN YOU GET THAT, WE GET THREE MORE VISITS GO DOWN THE WAYS IT'S ON THE RIGHT AND IT, AND IT GOES, IT CONTINUES ALL THE WAY TOWARDS MAY 10 AND BACKS UP TO THE CITY'S 9 1 1 CENTER EMERGENCY OPERATIONS CENTER. SO, UM, THIS PROPERTY WAS NOTATED BY THE, THE TWO INDIVIDUALS LISTED. UM, AND [00:20:01] THERE HAVE BEEN CONVERSATIONS, I THINK THERE MAY BE SOME INFORMATION HERE ABOUT FUTURE HARRIS COUNTY PARTNERSHIPS AND ALL THAT. SO THERE AGAIN, IT'S A GOOD QUESTION. GETTING IT THE LOCATION RIGHT WAS GOOD CONFIRMING IT'S IN THE CITY LIMITS, RIGHT? IT WAS NEX, SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IT. SO IT WAS FIRST OVER WHERE MAP BEFORE THE HIGHLAND, THIS IS THE CORRECT MAP, THIS REAL LOCATION THAT, THAT THE LA ON THE BOTTOM LEFT OF THE, UH, THE PARCEL IS THE LAKE THAT'S BEHIND THE NINE ONE. YEAH. SO YOU DON'T SEE THAT NINE NINE CENTER OR THE LAKES FROM THE ROAD, BUT THEY'RE, THEY'RE BEHIND THE, UH, THE NEW FAIRGROUNDS. THEY'RE BACK IN THAT AREA. SO THIS, WHAT'S THE ACREAGE ON THIS PIECE? LAND? UH, SEE, THERE'S A QUESTION. HOW MANY ACRES ARE WE TALKING ABOUT? RIGHT? 40 SOMETHING ACRES. 40. DON'T WORRY THAT, YOUR HONOR. SO A QUESTION MIGHT BE WHAT CAN YOU DO WITH 40 SOMETHING ACRES AS FAR AS A PARK, YOU KNOW, THINGS LIKE THAT. WHAT WOULD YOU WANT THIS CURRENTLY BE UTILIZED BY? FOR SOCCER FIELD OR SOMETHING? NO, THIS IS NOTHING. THIS IS NOTHING AT ALL. THIS IS A, UH, A PARCEL OF LAND THAT WAS BOUGHT BY THE FAMILY, UH, TO THEN TO THEN GIVE TO THE CITY TO DEVELOP IT TO A, A REGIONAL PARK FROM NORTH SIDE. OKAY. UH, JUNIOR RUSSELL, UH, HAD PASSED AWAY IN THE LAST HANDFUL OF YEARS. HIS ESTATE NOW WAS, UH, WORKING WITH HARRIS COUNTY TO TRY TO MODIFY SOME OF THE PLANS FOR IT. UH, THIS FIRST PHASE WOULD BE TO ADDRESS THE DRAINAGE TO IT AND THEN TO ENTER INTO A PARTNERSHIP WITH HARRIS TO THEN DEVELOP IT OUT FOR THE FAMILY'S DESIRES. AND IT'S, IT WAS ORIGINALLY NUMBER 19 ON THE CITY'S LIST OF PROJECTS. BUT FOR WHATEVER, I MEAN, IT, IT SEEMS STRANGE THAT, YOU KNOW, I DON'T, I WOULDN'T PUT THIS AS A HIGH PRIORITY AND WE'VE GOT A LOT OF LAND, BUT WHAT ARE OUR, WHAT ARE OUR OTHER SOCCER OPTIONS OR THINGS LIKE THAT? THAT'S WHAT I'VE ORIGINALLY HEARD OF USED FOR YEARS AGO. YEAH. SO YEARS AGO, AND, AND AGAIN, IT'S CHANGED, BUT YEARS AGO IT WAS GOING TO BE THE, UH, THE NORTH SIDE REGIONAL PARK CITY. BAYTOWN HAS ONE REGIONAL PARK IS JENKINS PARK. UH, THIS WOULD BE, UH, THIS IS A PHENOMENAL FOOTPRINT TO GO DOWN A PARK FROM THE NORTH SIDE COMMUNITY, WHICH IS GROWING RAPIDLY. UM, AGAIN, THOUGH, IT, THE PLAN IS FOR THE FAMILY, THE STATE TO WORK WITH HARRIS COUNTY TO DEVELOP IT OUT AND MODIFY THOSE PLAN. SO TO BE QUITE HONEST, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE PLANS COULD BE WHEN IT COMES TO TUITION. SO THIS ISN'T EYE ON OUR RANKINGS, UH, BUT IT'S, IT IS A, IT IS A WORTHWHILE, YOU HAVE TO DO THE DRAIN IN ORDER TO DEVELOP IT IN ANY CAPACITY. SO I, I WOULD, I WOULD ALSO SAY THAT THERE WAS A MEETING, UH, THAT WAS HELD WITH COMMISSIONER RAMSEY WHOSE PRECINCT THIS SITS IN. AND, UH, HE WAS AWARE HIS, HIS INTERESTS WHEN THEY BUILD PARKS ARE TALKING HUNDREDS OF ACRES OF PARKS AND, UH, SORT OF, UH, COMBINING THIS. SO IT WAS A DIFFERENT IDEA. IT WAS COMBINING IT WITH THE SOCCER FIELDS THAT ARE OUT ON NORTH MAIN IN 1942. AND THIS WOULD BE SORT OF A COMPONENT OF THAT COMPLEX FOR IT TO TRULY BE A HARRIS COUNTY SIZE PART. SO THE FOOTPRINT ITSELF IS NOT VERY BIG FROM A HARRIS COUNTY STANDPOINT. THEY, THAT OUGHT BE PART FOR HARRIS COUNTY. RIGHT. SO AS FAR AS THE FAMILY WORKING WITH HARRIS COUNTY AND HADN'T HEARD THAT EITHER, BECAUSE IT CAME FROM THE CITY. SO IT'S A GOOD QUE YOU KNOW, THESE ARE ALL THE KIND OF QUESTIONS THAT KIND OF MAKE YOU THINK, WELL REALLY, THERE'S REALLY NO PLAN. WE DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT IT IS. DRAINAGE WOULD GOTTA BE DONE AT SOME POINT, BUT WHY WOULD YOU DO DRAINAGE NOW IF THERE'S NO PLAN? SO YEAH, IT ALL MAKES SENSE, BUT, BUT JUST DIDN'T TALK ABOUT IT THAT WAY. SO IT'S NOT NECESSARILY A HIGH PRIORITY WITH HARRIS COUNTY. I, I, I, I CAN'T SAY WHERE IT'S IN HARRIS COUNTY. IT'S A GOOD QUESTION. WHAT IS THE PRIORITY OF HARRIS COUNTY? YOU KNOW, WHAT, WAS THERE A SCHEDULE? ASK THE QUESTION. IS THERE, IS THERE A PLAN FOR ANY TIME IN THE NEAR FUTURE TO, TO DEVELOP THIS PARK AND IS THE CITY'S COMPONENT OR THE OBLIGATION WOULD BE TO PROVIDE THE DRAINAGE FOR ALL THAT? IT WOULDN'T BE PART OF HARRIS COUNTY DOING IT. I MEAN, QUESTIONS LIKE THAT IS WHY, WHY ARE WE DOING THE DRAINAGE THEY DO THE PART, IS THAT AN AGREEMENT? THAT KIND OF A MAX THING, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S, HOW DOES THAT WORK? SO THERE ARE NO OTHER ANSWERS FOR ANY OF THOSE QUESTIONS RIGHT NOW. RIGHT. SO, UH, YEAH, I MEAN THAT'S JUST AS WE CONTINUE ON, I MEAN, WE CAN ALL RANK THOSE AND ASK OTHERS IF THERE'S HAVE QUESTIONS. YEAH. AND SO QUESTION WISE OR JUST ALL QUESTIONS, WE'RE NOT TRYING TO RANK THE, THE PROJECT ITSELF. I INDIVIDUALLY RANK HOW WE FEEL ABOUT THE PRIORITIES. LIKE I PUT A LOW ON MY LIST AND THAT'S OKAY. BECAUSE WHAT WE WANT TO DO ALSO IS ONCE YOU GET ALL THIS, WE WANT SHARE IT WITH THE OTHER FOLKS. YEAH, I UNDERSTAND. GOES BOTH WAYS AND THEN YOU CAN SHARE. BUT MY SUGGESTION IS AS WE MOVE ALONG, EACH OF THE PEOPLE HERE THAT ARE GONNA BE INVOLVED IN SOME RANKING, MAKE YOUR OWN LITTLE ABOUT THAT AND ALREADY HAVE OTHER QUESTIONS OF OUR STAFF HERE TODAY. WOULD YOU WANT TO EXPLAIN [00:25:01] WHAT THE $5 MILLION WOULD GO TOWARDS? WHAT'S THAT DRAIN? YEAH, IT IS ALL DRAIN. SO THIS WOULD BE DESIGNED AND, AND CONSTRUCTION OF THE DRAIN REQUIRED TO BUILD THIS PROPERTY? YEAH. AND THEN I WOULD ASK TO SEE WHAT THE SCOPE, WHAT GENERATED THE 5 MILLION NUMBER? PRETTY ROUND NUMBER. IS IT JUST LIKE THE COST I MADE OR ANYBODY HERE HAVE THAT? WE HAVE THAT. I DON'T HAVE IT PRINTED WITH ME RIGHT NOW THAT I CAN GET THAT ANSWER. WE BROKE DOWN A PRETTY MUCH A PRETTY ACCURATE COST. THIS ISN'T OUR TODAY THIS, RIGHT? NO, THIS WE HAVE, WE BROKE DOWN THE COST OF WHAT EACH ONE OF THESE. SO IT WASN'T JUST NUMBERS PULLED DOWN. YEAH, SURE. WE CAN DEFINITELY PUT DOWN, YEAH. SO YOU MIGHT, YOU MIGHT SAY, WELL, IT'D BE NICE TO SEE WHAT THE, WHAT THE AREA COST AFTER THE DRAINAGE WORK IS DONE AND WHAT'S STILL BILLABLE. IF YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO BUILD A TENSION IN THERE AND ALL THAT. HOW MANY ACRES ARE LEFT OR PARKED? YEAH. UNTIL WE KNOW WHAT THE DEVELOPMENT OF PARK CAN BE, IT'S PRETTY HARD TO FORECAST WHAT DRAINAGE GONNA BE NEEDED. I DUNNO, THEY'VE GOT, THEY GOT AN ASSUMPTION, THEY HAVE AN ASSUMPTION OF WHAT WAS THE ASSUMPTION. RIGHT? BUT UNTIL WE KNOW WELL, YEAH. WHAT IT LOOK LIKE, THAT'S LIKELY GONNA CHANGE THE . SO I WANT TO USE THIS AS AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT SEEMS SO VERY SIMPLE. YEAH. CAN ALL OF A SUDDEN GENERATE SO MANY QUESTIONS THAT, THAT IF YOU'RE ASKED, WHY ARE WE SPENDING THIS MONEY TO DEVELOP THIS GRASS LAND OUT THERE SPENDING $5 MILLION OR WHATEVER. BECAUSE YOU CAN EXPLAIN, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN SAY, HEY, THIS IS GONNA BE NORTH, SOUTH TOWN, A JENKINS PARK TYPE LOCATION, PEOPLE CAN RELATE TO JENKINS PARK, RIGHT? AND THEY CAN VISUALIZE IT OUT THERE. THEN THEY UNDERSTAND THIS IS WHY WE'RE DOING THIS. RIGHT. BUT IF YOU CAN'T GET THERE YOURSELF, HOW ARE YOU GONNA CONVINCE ANYONE ELSE THAT IT'S A GOOD IDEA? SO IT MAY BE A GREAT IDEA. YOU MAY NOT LIKE IT THOUGH, WITH EVERYTHING ELSE, CONSIDER SO, AND THIS IS NOT THE FINAL THING. THIS IS IT. JUST COME INTO THESE, THERE CAN BE DIGGING AND OBVIOUSLY THIS IS VERY PRELIMINARY. THANK YOU GILBERT. WE, WE APPRECIATE, BRO. SO IF YOU CAN, UM, I'M TRYING TO PULL IT UP, BUT SO I CAN HAVE IT READY FOR, Y'ALL CAN DEFINITELY MOVE ON. YEAH, WE CAN DEFINITELY THE NEXT ONE IN OUR LITTLE, UH, FOLDER FOR THE EVENING, THE STERLING MEDICAL LIBRARY. GOT INTERESTING CONVERSATIONS. UM, SO, UM, PRESENTED I THINK SEVERAL THINGS. ONE, IT COULD BE ADJACENT TO THE, TO A BUILDING CALLED PROJECT VECTOR BEING ON THE PREMISES. IT COULD ALSO BE INCORPORATED OR IT COULD BE RECONSTRUCTION. SO I THINK WHAT WAS CLAIMED IS THAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT WHAT IT, CAN YOU TELL US MORE ABOUT WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE WITH, WITH THE LIBRARY? I THINK I HEARD A ROOF REPLACEMENT PERHAPS OR WHAT, BUT, UH, IN SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT THE SIZE. SO HAVE Y'ALL DONE ANY RESEARCH ON THAT OR LED US TO THIS POINT? I CAN SPEAK TO IT FROM A CONDITION PERSPECTIVE. YES. SO THIS IS, I KNOW THIS IS JUST, SO IN 2020, THE CITY COMPLETED A FACILITIES ASSESSMENT, RIGHT? SO WHAT THAT DOES IS BASICALLY, UH, SEND A CONSULTANT TO EVERY FACILITY AT THE CITY AND THEY EVALUATE A VARIETY OF THINGS. SO AS YOU KNOW, A LOT OF THE CITY BUILDINGS ARE GETTING ON THE OLDER SIDE, SO IT'S PROVEN TO MAKE INVESTMENTS AS YOU GO TO KEEP THESE UP. IT'S JUST LIKE YOUR HOUSE, UH, YOU WANT TO PUT A ROOF ON BEFORE YOU HAVE WATER COMING IN THE ROOF. YOU WANNA REPLACE THE AIR CONDITIONING SYSTEM THEORETICALLY RIGHT BEFORE IT DIES. RIGHT? SO THAT'S A LOT OF WHAT THAT STUDY WORK WILL DO IS IDENTIFY, UH, STRUCTURAL ISSUES, UH, ISSUES WITH, UH, THE ABILITY OF THE, YOU KNOW, WINDOWS IN THE FRONT TO KEEP OUT WATER, UH, LEAKING HVAC SYSTEM, UH, ROOF, THE VARIETY OF THE MAJOR SYSTEMS IN THERE. SO IT IDENTIFIED A SERIES OF THINGS THAT NEEDED TO BE DONE WITH THE FACILITY, UH, IN THE NEAR TERM AS WELL AS IN THE MEDIUM TERM AND LONG TERM. SO, UH, IT IS AN OLDER FACILITY, IT'S IN NEED OF INVESTMENT. SO THIS MAY BE THAT TIPPING POINT TO WHERE YOU GO, OKAY, DO WE WANT TO KEEP PUTTING MONEY INTO THIS FACILITY OR IS IT PRUDENT TO REINVEST AN ANNUITY FACILITY? SO I THINK THAT'S REALLY WHERE THE ORGANIZATION IS AT AFTER THIS. SO THE PROPOSAL IS TO PUT A NEW BUILDING. WELL, I THINK WHAT THE CITY MANAGER SAYS IS HE, HE'S LOOKING TO YOU GUYS FOR YOUR FEEDBACK ON THAT TOO. AND I THINK THIS IS SOMETHING WHERE WE CAN TOUR, UH, THE FACILITY, SHOW YOU AROUND, SHOW YOU THE CONDITION ASSESSMENT ASSOCIATED WITH IT, THAT MIGHT HELP YOU GET SOME INSIGHTS FROM THAT. I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY DOUBT THAT THIS HAS BEEN A GREAT ASSET FOR THE COMMUNITY. I MEAN, I DON'T OFTEN GO THERE, BUT WHEN I DO AND HAVE IN THE PAST, I MEAN, YOU SEE A LOT OF CHILDREN PROGRAMS AND, UH, SO CERTAINLY, BUT AS Y'ALL ALSO KNOW, LIBRARY ARE [00:30:02] BECOMING A THING OF PAST IN A WAY AS FAR AS ACADEMICS AND WHATNOT WITH THE DIGITAL AGE. BUT I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S KIND OF BEEN PLACE FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE I THINK THAT WE WANT DEFINITELY SUPPORT THE LIBRARY SYSTEM RESIDE. WHEN I SAW IT AS THE LAST THING ON THE CITY'S, UH, SUGGESTED LIST FOR EMERGENCY, THAT THE LAST ITEM I PROPOSED 20 SOMETHING ITEMS, IT STRUCK ME AS, OH, WELL, YOU KNOW, BUT, UH, THEN WHEN YOU COUPLE IT WITH AS A CITIZEN AND NOT GOING OFF THE DETAILS, YOU WONDER ABOUT AS, UH, WE HEARD THIS EVENING WITH THE CONSTRUCTION, WHERE'S THE PROJECT AFTER GONNA BE? IS THIS GONNA BE LEVEL DUE TO THAT AND WHATNOT? SO, UH, IT SEEMS LIKE, YOU KNOW, STRATEGICALLY YOU WANT, YOU WANT YOUR NEW FIRE STATION TO BE AVAILABLE FOR PROTECTING, YOU KNOW, AND STRUCTURE. AND SO CERTAINLY YOU KIND OF IN THAT KIND OF SERVICE AREA, BUT WHAT DO Y'ALL THINK ABOUT, YES. UH, IS $20 MILLION LISTED HERE, DOES THAT TEAR DOWN AND REBUILD THE LIBRARY WHERE IT IS? WHAT DOES THAT DO? IT'S A ROUGH ASSESSMENT AT THIS POINT. UH, THAT COULD GO TO EITHER A REFURBISHMENT OF THE LIBRARY OR THE CONSTRUCTION OF A NEW, IT'S ANOTHER LOCATION. SURE, SURE, SURE. BUT AGAIN, I WOULDN'T THINK IT'D AT THE EXACT SAME LOCATION. RIGHT. YOU KNOW HOW THESE THINGS GO. YOU WOULD BUILD IT MAYBE IN THE PARKING LOT AND THEN DEMOLISH THE OTHER ONE. THAT KIND OF A THING. LIKE WHAT THEY DID WITH THE LINE STADIUM, YOU ASK TO BUILD ONE RIGHT NEXT. UNDERSTOOD. BUT THERE ARE ALSO SOME OTHER ASPECTS AND WE'D BE HAPPY TO BRING TO THE LIBRARY STAFF IN HERE TO TALK ABOUT THE NEEDS OF LIBRARIES. NOT NOBODY NEEDS AN EXPERT, BUT YOU SPOKE ABOUT THE, UM, THE EVOLUTION OF LIBRARIES, RIGHT? THEY'RE, THEY'RE NOT WHAT THEY USED TO BE. THEY'RE BECOMING SOMETHING MORE, RIGHT? THAT MORE TECHNOLOGY CENTRIC, MORE MORE COMPUTERS, PERHAPS LESS BOOKS. SO I THINK IT'D BE, I I I I'M NOT QUALIFIED TO SPEAK ON WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE, BUT I THINK WE HAVE THE, WE HAVE THE PEOPLE AND WE'D BE HAPPY TO, UM, ARRANGE A TOUR AT SOME POINT OR, OR WHENEVER WOULD APPROPRIATE FOR YOU GUYS HAPPY TO HAVE THEM SHARE THEIR STORY. UH, IT WOULD BE INTEREST TO SEE WHAT THE CURRENT USAGE LEVEL IS. I BELIEVE IT'S MERIT VERY, IT SEEMS TO BE BUSY UP. OH, RIGHT. YEAH. PARKING LOT YOU DRIVE BEHIND. IT'S ALWAYS BUSY. AND STAFF IS VERY GOOD ABOUT DOING VERY INNOVATIVE PROGRAM. MM-HMM . THAT'S A GREAT ASSET. AND SINCE THEY SEEM TO BE DOING AWAY WITH A LOT OF THE LIBRARIES AT THE SCHOOLS, THAT MAY BE BECOMING A MORE VALUABLE ASSET COMMUNITY. IT'S INTERESTING. UH, I, I THINK TO, TO SELL IN A BOND IS GOING TO BE EXTREMELY DIFFICULT UNTIL, AND SO, I MEAN, WHENEVER WE MAKE OUR PROPOSAL MM-HMM . THE COUNCIL GOES, BUT THEY WILL KNOW CERTAINLY. BUT YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING. IF YOU GET READY TO PUT THE BOND OUT THERE AND YOU'RE GONNA PUT A 20 MILLION LIBRARY ON, ON THE VOTING, AND THEN YOU'VE GOT THE THING, WHAT IS IT GONNA BE? NEEDS TO BE DECIDED BEFORE YOU CAN ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW, SELL THAT THING. I BELIEVE PEOPLE SEE WE ABOUT THAT. SO, UH, CERTAINLY I THINK WE CAN JUSTIFY, UH, YOU KNOW, HEARING FROM WE, WE FIRE STATION THAT, UM, BUT I DON'T THINK WE, WE WOULD BELITTLE THIS IN ANY WAY, BUT MAYBE IT'LL BE UP TO COUNCIL WHERE IT GOES BASED ON WHAT THEIR PLANS ARE AT THE TIME THAT THE BOND. I KIND OF WONDER 20 MILLION YEAR , I KIND OF WONDER 20 MILLION DOESN'T REALLY DO READY TO GO ON NEXT, OR DO WE HAVE A, YOU WANNA TRY TO GET, GET SOME, UH, CONVERSATION OR VISIT THE LIBRARY SOMETIME? WE HAVE GOOGLE 2020 [00:35:07] AND, UM, WE'VE GOT, UH, NEXT WE HAVE, UH, JENKINS PARK, THE GOOSE CREEK TRAIL CONNECTION I PARKS. THIS IS THE, UH, THIS IS A VERY SHORT DISTANCE TRAIL CONNECTION. OH, THIS IS FROM BLUE HERRING PARK. UH, BLUE HERRING, UH, ROAD. ACTUALLY, IF YOU, UH, BLUE HER PARK GO DOWN THE ROAD, THERE'S THAT NICE SIDEWALK THAT GOES ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE DEAD ENDS. THEN FROM THAT SPOT YOU CAN VISUALLY SEE THE ENTRANCE TO, UH, JENKINS PARK, WHICH IS A, AGAIN, THE ONLY REGIONAL PARK IN BAYTOWN. THE PROBLEM IS THOSE TWO CONNECTIONS DON'T HAVE, THEY DON'T, THEY DON'T HAVE. AND SO THERE'S A REALLY SMALL, UH, AREA, BUT IT'S REALLY VINYL BECAUSE OF WHAT CONNECT EAST AND WEST JENKINS PARK, THE HOLLOW PARK ALL THE WAY TO, UM, GOOSE CREEK TRAIL, UM, OVER A RAILROAD TRACK. YEAH. AND THEN, BUT THE, THE BIGGEST CHALLENGE IS THAT YOU HAVE THAT RAILROAD TRACK THAT KIND OF HITS A, AT A 45 DEGREE ANGLE, AND THERE'S NOT ENOUGH ROOM TO DO AN ACT GRADE PARK, UH, ACT GRADE CROSSING. SO THE ONLY WAY THAT WE CAN GET OVER TO THE PARK IS GO UP AND OVER THE RAILROAD. AND THAT'S GONNA TAKE, UH, NOT ONLY A SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF PLANNING, BUT IT'S GONNA COST A SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF MONEY TO DO SO. UM, IF YOU LOOK AT THE, UH, SOME OF THE SUPPLEMENTAL STUFF THAT WE ADDED HERE ON THE NEXT PHASE, YOU CAN SEE THE TRAIL MAPS AND HOW IT, UH, TIES INTO THE JUNIORS PARK. YOU CAN ALSO SEE ON THE BOTTOM LEFT A, UH, STOP SIGN THAT WAS RAN OVER IN THE SAME AREA. UH, THAT'S WHERE, THAT'S ESSENTIALLY WHERE THE KIDS WAIT AND CROSS. AND, UH, WE, WE GET COMMENTS ALL THE TIME THAT, YOU KNOW, IT IS SO SHORT OF A DISTANCE THAT PEOPLE THINK THAT IT IS DOABLE. AND THEN WHEN THEY GET OUT THERE IN THAT ROAD, THOSE CARS ARE FLYING. UH, AND IT IS, IT IS JUST A SAFETY THERE. IT IT IS AN ACCIDENT WAVE EVEN HAPPENS. BUT, UH, WE WANTED TO ALSO GIVE YOU JUST A CONCEPTUAL IMAGE OF WHAT IT COULD BE. I MEAN, THAT'S A, THAT'S JUST A RANDOM CONCEPTUAL BIG UP AND OVER CROSSING THERE. BUT THE REASON THAT IT'S $451,000 IS A DESIGN ONLY. IT'S, UH, THIS IS ONLY TO GET A PLAN IN PLACE FOR THE ENGINEERING DONE ON THAT TO GET, UH, POSSIBLE AND ACQUISITION TO MAKE IT HAPPEN. THIS IS TO GET A PLAN THAT THEN WE CAN LOOK FOR FUNDING SOURCES IN OTHER WAYS, EITHER THROUGH GRANTS OR THROUGH DIFFERENT CIP PROJECTS OR WHATEVER, WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE. UH, EVERYONE RIGHT NOW IS SAYING, MAN, THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE. WE JUST DON'T KNOW HOW. SO THIS WILL GIVE US THE, HOW WE CAN GET IT DONE. SO, AND ALSO, LET'S PUT A PLAN RAILROAD, SAY WORK WITH THEM, RECALL READING AND WATCHING ABOUT THIS SIMILAR THING YEAR. I THINK THE PROPOSAL, I MEAN, COST TO DO PROJECT FOUR, IT'LL BE UP. THERE'S DESIGNED, BUT I MEAN, YOU KNOW, IT IS FUNNY BECAUSE EVEN IN THESE LIKE CASUAL CONVERSATIONS, THERE'S PEOPLE LIKE WE FOR UNDER YOU DO ALL, WE DON'T KNOW. WE JUST KNOW THAT THERE IS A NEED FOR A CONNECTION TO GET TO BLUE HERON PARKWAY TO PARK. AND THAT'S JUST TRYING THE BEST WAY FOR, AND THIS IS, THIS IS A SAFETY CONCERN ASSOCIATED WITH OUR MOST POPULAR PART. UH, AND, AND THE TEMPTATION OF JUST WALK IN, IN THAT PATH THAT WE HAVE ACROSS THERE. SO HAS THERE BEEN ANY CONVERSATION WITH THE RAILWAY? YEAH, SO WE HAVE, UH, WE HAVE PERMISSION FROM THE RAILROAD TO, TO MAKE A A ABOVE GRADE CROSS IT, BUT WE CAN'T CROSS THAT BRIDGE. SO THE, THE, THE LOW HANGING EASY FRUIT TO CROSS THE RAIL ON THE STREET IS NOT AVAILABLE. RIGHT. SO WE KNOW THAT. AND SO THAT'S BAD NEWS. AND THAT BROUGHT US TO THIS POINT. WE'VE GOTTA DETERMINE A BETTER PLAN. BUT THE RAILROAD IS, BUT HAS GIVEN THROUGH, CAN WE TAKE THE ROPES COURSE OUT OF THE NATURE CENTER? I WE COULD GET TWO OF THEM, GET TWO OF THOSE BIG TIME. A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO HE CONTACTED US ABOUT THIS, THIS EXACT INTERSECTION SAYING HE ALMOST GOT ON HIS BIKE. HE VERY EXPERIENCED BIKER CHILDREN GO ANYTIME. AND I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU ON YOUR OWN TIME, JUST GO THERE TO THAT INTERSECTION ANYTIME OF THE DAY WHEN SCHOOL'S OUT, YOU'LL SEE KIDS TRYING TO NAVIGATE. LIKE EVERY SINGLE TIME YOU GO OUT THERE, THERE'S KIDS TRYING TO NAVIGATE THAT PROCESS. SO JUST GO LOOK ANYTIME GOING THERE AND JUST, IF I COULD ADD, I RUN THAT ROUTE, THAT'S THE ONE AREA THAT I GET TO THAT I HAVE TO WAIT AND LOOK. 'CAUSE YOU GOT, I GOTTA SPRINT IT TO GET DOWN TO THE SIDEWALK BECAUSE THERE'S NOT A ROOM, THERE'S NO ROOM ON NO SHOULDER. [00:40:01] YEAH. THE LIGHT CLUB DOES THE CLEAN UP FOR THE PARK AND THAT MILE AND BLUE HER PARKWAY. AND EVERY TIME I GET THAT, THAT END THAT INTERSECTION, I LOOK, WELL, THIS DOESN'T LOOK GOOD ANYMORE. RIGHT? YEAH, THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT. BUT IT'S A VERY, IT IS A VERY SHORT DISTANCE AND THAT'S WHY A LOT OF TIMES IT'S OVERLOOKED BECAUSE IT'S SUCH A SHORT DISTANCE. BUT IT IS, IT MAKES IT MORE DANGEROUS IN MY OPINION, THAT IT'S SO SHORT THAT IT'S VISUALLY DECEIVING. YEAH. THAT WHY I CAN CROSS THAT REAL QUICK. AND YOU CAN GET THESE KIDS OUT THE MAJOR ROAD AND AN ACCIDENT QUESTIONS THERE OR HAVE AN IDEA. I JUST, I THINK IT'S A GOOD THING TO DO. WHEN, WHEN IT GETS DOWN TO HOW WE'RE GONNA DO IT IS WHAT IT'S GONNA COST THE DECISION. I THINK IT'S GONNA BE GO OUT, FIND OUT. NOW GILBERT SUGGESTED THAT, YOU KNOW, IF IT'S SINCE FOR STUDY YOU A HARD TIME SELLING THIS, BUT I THINK BECAUSE THE SAFETY ISSUE AND THE PROFIT AREA PARK, THAT THAT WOULD RANK IT UP. THE NEXT ONE WE HAVE HERE COMPLEX. I'M NOT CONFLICT WHAT YOU'RE DOING HERE. SO I, SO THIS IS THE, UH, THIS IS ANOTHER ONE THAT THAT'S NEAR AND DEAR. UM, I ACTUALLY, ACTUALLY STARTED MY CAREER WITH 15 YEARS AGO AS THE ATHLETIC COORDINATOR AT, AT THIS COMPLEX THAT WE WERE TOLD WE WERE GETTING DIRT ABOUT 14 YEARS AGO. UH, THIS PROJECT'S BEEN IN THE SHOOTING FOR A VERY LONG TIME. WE HAVE A, A TREMENDOUS REPUTATION OF, UH, OF OUR FACILITY. THE, THE FACILITY BOOKS A LOT. IF YOU LOOK AT THE SECOND PAGE, YOU CAN SEE THAT, UH, THAT, THAT BOOKING THE TOURNAMENTS ISN'T THE PROBLEM THAT WE HAVE. OUR NOTORIETY, OUR FIELD MAINTENANCE, ALL THAT'S REALLY GOOD. THE PROBLEM WE HAVE IS THAT THE FIELDS ARE NATURAL. UH, THEY'RE A NATURAL TRIP FIELD, WHICH THERE'S CLAY IN SOFTBALL. AND SO THEY, THEY HOLD WATER. AND YOU CAN SEE IN THESE PHOTOS, THERE'S A BEAUTIFUL DAY, A BEAUTIFUL SATURDAY BLUE SKIES IS, IS PIC. YOU CAN'T AND YOU CAN'T PLAY. UH, WE'RE, WE'RE TRYING TO BE A, A DESTINATION TOURNAMENT LOCATION THAT FACILITY'S IN A PHENOMENAL SPOT. IT'S REALLY CLOSE TO I 10. WE, WHEN WE HAVE TOURNAMENTS, WE ATTRACT TEAMS FROM LOUISIANA, WE ATTRACT TEAMS, OTHERS OUT HOUSTON, AND IT'S IN EVEN GALVESTON. IT'S, IT'S A PHENOMENAL OCCASION. WE HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH BOOKING TOURNAMENTS. UH, THE PROBLEM WE HAVE IS MAKING THE TOURNAMENTS HAPPEN IF IT RAINS THAT WEEK, NOT THE DAY OF THE DAY OF TOURNAMENT, IF IT RAINS, EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS THAT IT'S THE, IT IS WHEN IT RAINS ON A WEDNESDAY AND PEOPLE ARE MAKING TRAVEL ARRANGEMENTS TO COME HERE ON THE WEEKEND AND STAY IN OUR HOTEL ALL WEEKEND THAT WE HAVE TO CANCEL. AND THAT'S THE REALLY BIG PROBLEM. MS. PROJECT'S BEEN IN THE CHUTE FOR A WHILE. UH, WE ARE CURRENTLY GOING OUT TO BID FOR, UH, TO DO TWO FIELDS AND THE DETENTION FOR IT. THIS WILL BE THE FINISHING TOUCHES, WHICH IS THE PARKING LOT AND, UH, TWO OTHER FIELDS. SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE TWO PICTURES ON PAGE ON THE LEFT SIDE, YOU CAN SEE THE PARKING IMPACTS. UH, A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT WERE DONE, KIND MAYBE BY MISTAKE IN THE PAST. UH, PIRATE BAY, UH, WATER PARK WAS BUILT WITHOUT A REAL PARKING LOT. IT UTILIZES THE WAYNE GRAY SPORTS COMPLEX PARKING LOT. SO PARKING OVER THERE IS A NIGHTMARE IN AND OF ITSELF. UH, ANOTHER THING PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND IS WAYNE GRAY HAS FIVE DIFFERENT ENTITIES THAT SHARE WAYNE GRAY. YOU HAVE US WITH THE ADULT SOFTBALL. YOU HAVE A YOUTH SOFTBALL ORGANIZATION. YOU HAVE PIRATES BAY, YOU HAVE THE REPUBLIC OF TEXAS, AND YOU HAVE A CRICKET FIELD. THEY TELL ONLY CRICKET FIELD. AND SO IF YOU HAVE ALL FIVE OF THOSE ENTITIES DOING THEIR JOBS AND ATTRACTING TOURNAMENTS AND ATTRACTING, UH, GUESTS, YOU HAVE ALL THOSE PEOPLE COMING TO PARK THERE IN THE NEWARK PARK. UH, YOU HAVE PARKING ISSUES ALL THE WAY UP AND DOWN EAST ROAD AND THE DITCHES, IT'S ALL OPEN DITCH. THERE'S NO SIDEWALKS. SO YOU HAVE PEOPLE PARKING ALONG AN OPEN DITCH WITH THEIR CHILDREN TO GO TO ERS BAY. YOU HAVE PEOPLE YOU CAN SEE IN THE IMAGE THERE ON THE LEFT SIDE OF THE PARKING LOT. YOU HAVE PEOPLE DRIVING DOWN THE HILL TO PARK, UH, IN THE OPEN FIELD OF GRASS. AND YOU TALK TO WALKER HOLLAND AT THE REPUBLIC OF TEXAS. SHE'LL TELL YOU PEOPLE ARE PARKING ALL OVER HER, UH, HISTORICAL HOMES AND GOING ALL OVER THERE. UH, AND SO IT'S, IT IS A, IT IS A MUCH NEED IF WE ARE TRULY GOING TO BE A TOURNAMENT DESTINATION, IF WE'RE TRULY GONNA BE, UH, DIFFERENT OUR TOES IN THIS SPORTS TOURISM, UH, FIELD. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE TO DO. ANY TOURNAMENT VENUE, UH, FOR SOFTBALL UTILIZE US TO IN FIELDS. UH, IF YOU GO TO BIG LEAGUE DREAMS OR, OR EVEN MOUNT BELLEVUE, ANY OF THESE OTHER COMPLEXES THAT WE COMPETE WITH, THEY ALL HAVE SYNTHETIC. AND SO AGAIN, THIS IS TO FINISH OUT A PROJECT THAT HAS BEEN VERY LONG STANDING. UH, AND SO IT'S, THIS IS THE ONLY PROJECT I BELIEVE THAT WE HAVE THAT HAS ALREADY, IS ALREADY ALONG THE WAY IS FAR DOWN THE ROAD. THIS IS TO FINISH IT OUT. AND YOU CAN SEE ALL THE RAINOUTS THAT WE'VE HAD. UH, THERE'S A COUPLE OF STATISTICS THERE. UH, AND THEN YOU CAN SEE WHERE THE PARKING WOULD BE IMPROVEMENTS ON THE, ON THE NEXT PAGE, I MAKE A SUGGESTION, CAN WE GET THESE BOOKLETS AND NUMBER THE PAGE NUMBERS, [00:45:01] UH, BECAUSE I'M TRYING TO REFERENCE DIFFERENT PICTURES AND IT'S HARD TO TRY TO DO THAT. YEAH. BUT THE ONES WITH THE YELLOW CIRCLES INDICATE WHERE THE PARKING WOULD BE AS PART OF THE PLAN. OKAY. THIS ALREADY HAS A, A PLAN ALREADY IN IN PLACE LIKE IT, WE'RE JUST FINISHING OUT. SO, AND, AND NOT TO BE OVERLOOKED IS, IT'S A PARKING LOT. THE YELLOW CIRCLE ON THE TOP LEFT OF THAT PHOTO, THAT'S A PARKING LOT THAT BE BELOW BY PARIS MADE AS WELL. SO IT IS NOT ONLY GONNA HELP SOFTBALL'S GONNA HELP HIGHER FA AND ROLL SOFTBALL AND EVERYTHING ELSE. SO WHAT IS THE PROJECTED TIMEFRAME TO GET THAT COMPLETED AS OPPOSED TO THE VECTOR PROJECT, WHICH IS A LONG TERM. UH, I THINK THEY'RE GOING UP BID NOW, RIGHT? OH YEAH. WE'LL HAVE, UH, BIDS OUT FOR THE NEXT 60 DAYS. I SUSPECT WE'LL BE OPENING BIDS ON THAT FIRST PHASE FOR TWO FIELDS. FOR THE TWO FIELDS AND THE DETENTION THAT'LL ALREADY BE STARTED. UM, YEAH, THIS WOULD BE JUST TO, I THINK THIS IS, THE DESIGN IS MOSTLY THERE FOR THE FIELDS. CORRECT. AND THE PARKING. AND THE PARKING. SO YEAH, I THINK ONCE WE WOULD GET THIS MONEY, IT WOULDN'T TAKE MORE THAN A COUPLE OF MONTHS TO FIND THOSE PLANS. OH, ONCE YOU GET THE MONEY THEN YEAH. SIX MONTHS. THE PLANS ARE ALREADY DONE IN THIS PROJECT. THAT'S THE BIG, THE PLANNING. THIS IS FINISHED OFF. THIS IS JUST THE FINISH UP. SO SUMMARIZE FOR ME AGAIN, WE'RE GONNA ADD BE ADDING WATER RETENTION PARKING AND UH, IS THERE SOME FIELD STRUCTURE? YEAH, SYNTHETIC. SYNTHETIC OR SYNTHETIC. SO THAT PRIMARILY THOSE FEATURES THEN YES. GONNA GIVE US WHAT WE NEED IN THIS FACILITY. YES SIR. IT'LL ALSO CIRCLE THE WATER AND THE OKAY. IT'LL ALSO, UM, BACK COINCIDENCE REALLY. THEY'LL GIVE THE REPUBLIC TEXAS THEIR OWN PARKING LOT. SO, UH, WHEN THEY DO THEIR SCHOOL TOURS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, IF THEY HAD THAT GOING ON DURING A SOFTBALL TOURNAMENT, THEY WOULDN'T INTERFERE WITH EACH OTHER. COOL. CAN YOU HEAR THAT CONSISTENT THEME OF DETENTION DRAINAGE? THAT THAT'S TO THE REQUIREMENTS THAT ARE IN PLACE NOW FOR DRAINAGE? YOU BASICALLY CAN'T TURN OVER A SHOVEL FULL OF DIRT WITHOUT, UH, COUNTING FOR WHERE THE WATER'S GONNA GO FOR IT. SO IT MAKES THINGS CHALLENGING. BUT, UH, I THINK, YOU KNOW, PROJECTS LIKE THIS HAVE A REALLY NICE PLAN FOR HOW TO INCORPORATE THE ATTENTION TO MAKE IT A, A FEATURE OF THE AREA, SO TO SPEAK, RATHER THAN A JUST RIGHT. SO THEY, THEY DO A NICE JOB WITH ARCHITECTURAL INCORPORATING THIS STUFF IN. SO WHO WANTS TO TELL US ABOUT THE I WOULD BE HAPPY ALL ABOUT THAT ONE. UM, THIS ONE IS ANOTHER ONE THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT FOR YEARS. YOU'VE PROBABLY HEARD PEOPLE TALK ABOUT MOVING THE WETLAND CENTER TO THE NATURE CENTER. AND THAT'S REALLY NOT WHAT THIS PROJECT IS ABOUT. IT'S ABOUT BUILDING A NATURE CENTER AT THE NATURE CENTER. IF YOU'VE BEEN TO OTHER BURNING CENTERS OR NATURE CENTERS, YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE A BUILDING FOR SOMEONE TO COME IN AND TOUR AND LEARN. SO SOMETHING FROM, YES, WE WOULD DEFINITELY MOVE THE PROGRAMMING OF THE WETLAND CENTER OUT TO THE NATURE CENTER IF, UM, WHEN, ONCE WE'RE ABLE TO GET THE BUILDING OUT THERE. BUT WE'RE LOOKING AT, UM, A NATURE, THERE IS A COMPLEX OUT THERE. SO IT WOULD BE THE BUILDING. AND THEN WE ARE ALSO ALREADY WORKING ON A GREENHOUSE. WE BOUGHT THE GREENHOUSE. WE JUST HAVE TO GET THE SLAB AND PUT THAT UP AND THEN INCORPORATE, UM, PIECES OF THE CHANDLER ARBORETUM. ALTHOUGH THE CHANDLER FAMILY, THEY DONATED LAND SLASH FUNDING, UM, A LONG TIME AGO. AND WE MOVED THAT OFF OF, OFF OF NORTH. YEAH, THAT ONE OVER TO A SITE AT THE NATURE CENTER WHERE WE'RE GOING TO BUILD, UM, A, A BUILDING. SO THAT'S WHAT THIS, THIS PART IS ABOUT. YOU KNOW, THAT THERE'S TWO DIFFERENT ONES. THIS IS THE ONE FOR US. THIS IS THE HIGHER PRIORITY. THIS IS THE FIRST THING THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO DO, IS TO BE ABLE TO BUILD A BUILDING OUT THERE, MOVE OUR PROGRAMMING OUT THERE, HAVE STAFF OUT THERE, AND THEN WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH ANY OF THE OTHER LITTLE FUN STUFF. BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST IMPERATIVE THAT WE ARE ABLE TO GET OUT OF THE FLOOD ZONE. IF YOU SEE THAT PICTURE, UH, WHERE IT SAYS, IF YOU TURN THE PAGE WHERE IT SAYS PAGE THREE, THAT PICTURE ON THE TOP LEFT, THAT'S WHAT THE CENTER LOOKED LIKE AFTER HURRICANE. SO IF, AND WE HAD WATER IN THERE AFTER HURRICANE HARVEY AND, UM, NOTHING AFTER THE BARREL, I BELIEVE NOT HOME WOOD. UM, BUT YES, WE NEED TO TAKE OUR PROGRAMMING OUT OF THAT BUILDING WHERE, WHERE IT'S SO, YOU KNOW, IT'S IN DANGER OF FLOODING EVERY, EVERY JUNE 1ST IT STARTS, UM, THE PICTURE THAT YOU SEE THERE WHERE IT SAYS DESIGN PROPOSAL. WE WENT OUT FOR A PROPOSAL MANY YEARS AGO AND THIS WAS THE, THE DESIGN THAT WAS, WAS, UM, KIND OF PRESENTED TO US AS SOMETHING THAT COULD BE DONE. AND WE'RE NOT SETTLED ON THIS, BUT WE LIKE THE IDEA THAT WE WOULD HAVE, YOU KNOW, HAVE A VERY NICE [00:50:01] FIRST CLASS UPDATED, UM, ECOTOURISM NATURE CENTER FOR PEOPLE TO COME AND VISIT. AND FOR SCHOOL KIDS FROM ALL OVER. WE GET SCHOOL DISTRICTS FROM ALL OVER OUR REGION TO COME IN AND DO THEIR PROGRAMMING THERE. OKAY. HAVE Y'ALL BEEN UP TO THE I KNOW THAT BUT, UM, THIS SITE THAT, WHERE WE'VE BUILT THIS BUILDING IS WHERE USED BE WESTWOOD LITTLE LEAF, AND IT IS ABOVE THE FLOOD PLAIN. SO IT'S OUT THE FLOOD PLAIN. SO IT WAS SAFE DURING HURRICANE IKE, HURRICANE , HURRICANE HARVEY, YOU KNOW, ALL OF THOSE FLOOD EVENTS. THIS SITE WOULD'VE BEEN SAFE FOR THE BUILDING. IS THAT KIND OF CLOSE BEHIND THE WOOSTER BAPTIST CHURCH? IS THAT NOT FAR? MM-HMM . IT'S DOWN. SHREK. MM-HMM . SO, UM, LUSTER HAS, THEY'VE COOPERATED WITH US ON A COUPLE OF EVENTS WHERE THEY LET US USE THEIR PARKING LOT. 'CAUSE WE ALSO DON'T HAVE A WHOLE LOT OF PARKING OUT THERE. BUT THIS WILL ADD SOME PARKING ALSO IN FRONT OF OUR, THE NEW NATURE CENTER SLASH R WARN YOU WEST PARK WAS THE MOSQUITO CAPITAL . I KNOW, IT'S HONESTLY, NOW IT'S, IT, IT'S NOT THAT BAD IN THIS AREA 'CAUSE IT'S A BIG GARDEN SITE. YOU DO A LOT OF BURNING OUT THE NATURE CENTER AND WHERE IT IS BECAUSE THERE'S REALLY NICE FIELDS OUT THERE. USUALLY THE BALL FIELDS, IT DOESN'T HOLD A LOT OF WATER, THANKFULLY. AND SO IT'S NOT QUITE AS BAD AS SOME OF THE AREAS OF THE NATURE CENTER. BUT I, I'LL TAKE THAT. I'LL TAKE THAT AND BE ABLE TO STILL HAVE IT. IT'S A BEAUTIFUL LOCATION THERE. YEAH, IT IS. IT REALLY IS PRETTY. IT COULD BE A GREAT DRAW FOR PEOPLE TOURISM FOR BAY. WE NEED THAT. SO THERE ARE TWO DIFFERENT THINGS HERE, I GUESS. SO THIS ONE IS FOR THE, THIS IS FOR THE BUILDING. THIS IS THE OTHER ONE. AND I THINK YOU SAID HIGHER ON YOUR PRIORITY RIGHT NOW THAN THE OTHER. THE BUILDING, YES. THE OTHER ONE IS KIND OF LIKE THE EXTRAS. YEAH. UM, WE WOULDN'T EVEN REALLY CONSIDER NEEDING THAT AT THIS POINT UNTIL WE GET THE BUILDING AND STAFF OUT THERE. WE DON'T HAVE STAFF OUT THERE. UM, SO AS MUCH AS WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO ADD SOME THE ROAD COURSE AND THINGS LIKE THAT, UM, WE WOULD DEFINITELY SAY WE'RE GONNA DO THE BUILDING FIRST. AND IT WOULD BE REALLY NICE TO HAVE A ROADED COURSE. UM, BOARDWALK, UM, CORNELL WORKED OUT, SO THERE'S REALLY COOL DESIGNS. UM, OF COURSE WE BOARD BLOCKS THROUGH THE TREES, NICE LITTLE AMPHITHEATER WITH SOME LEARN PERFORMANCES. UM, THE ROPES COURSE IS ALSO AN ADVENTURE COURSE. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'ALL INTO THE WOODLANDS ONE, IT WOULDN'T BE QUITE LIKE THAT, BUT SOMETHING SIMILAR TO THAT. WE FINALIZE THOSE PLANS AS AFTER WE WERE ABLE TO MOVE OUT THERE. WE'VE GOTTA HAVE STAFF BEFORE WE CAN BE DOING THAT. SO THE 13 MILLION GIVES US THE, THE NEXT NEW APPROVED, UH, BLOOD CENTER? NOPE, IT'S FOR A NEW NATURE CENTER. OKAY. YES, . ALRIGHT. EXCUSE ME. YES, IT'S FOR A NEW NATURE CENTER OUT THERE. AND YES, WE WOULD MOVE THE PROGRAM. SO WE GET THE, WE GET THE BUILDING THERE. AND DOES THIS PUT ANY MONEY TOWARD THE ARBORETUM OR IS THAT GONNA BE, UH, IT WOULD BE A SLASH ARBORETUM. NOW WE WOULD COMBINE ELEMENTS ABOVE THE NATURE CENTER, ARBORETUM. WE DEFINITELY WANT TO HAVE SOME SORT OF A TREE SLASH UM, PLANT EDUCATION OUT THERE. AGAIN, UM, WE, IF YOU LOOK AT THE ONE I KIND OF WANTED TO USE THIS PICTURE, YOU LOOK AT THE PICTURES AFTER THE ONE THAT SAYS, UM, OR ENHANCEMENTS. YEAH, AGAIN, THERE'S NO PICTURE BUT NO PAGE NUMBER. BUT THIS PICTURE HERE IS KIND OF A HIGH LEVEL FOOTPRINT OF WHAT THAT WHOLE FACILITY COULD LOOK LIKE WITH THE ENHANCEMENTS AND BUILDING. AND AS YOU CAN SEE THERE, THAT WOULD HAS THE, UM, AMPHITHEATER HERE HAS SOME BOARD WALKS. UM, AND THAT'S JUST ON THE WEST SIDE AND THOSE GARDENS AND PLANTING AREAS, THAT WOULD BE PART OF THE, OUR START. THAT PIECE ALONG WITH THE, IT'S, IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT A LOT OF OUR PROJECTS, AND, AND I ENCOURAGE YOU ALL TO READ ALL OF 'EM, UM, BECAUSE WE REFERENCE, UM, OUR MASTER PLAN. WE HAVE A 300 PAGE DOCUMENT THAT WAS DONE IN 2020 OF A, OF THE PARKS AND RECREATION MASTER PLAN. AND A LOT OF THESE, UH, THESE CONCEPTUAL IMAGES AND A LOT OF THESE, UH, STRATEGIES ARE ALL IN THERE. UH, AND SOMETHING THAT GOALS THAT NEEDS TO WORK TOWARDS. SO WE TRY TO REFERENCE WHERE THEY WERE THERE. SO WE CAN CROSSROADS IF YOU WANTED. THEY'VE BEEN CALLED OUT. IT'S AVAILABLE ON THE WEBSITE. NICE. EASY READING THAT I, UH, ALWAYS WAY GRANDKID, GRANDKIDS, AND EVERY SUMMER WE WOULD HAVE THEM OUT, NO [00:55:01] MATTER HOW OLD WE'RE WE STILL TAKE THEM OVER HERE. AND, UM, YOU KNOW, I, I DIDN'T KNOW, BUT I BELIEVE I READ HERE SOMETHING ABOUT THE SCHOOL DISTRICT PROGRAMS. SO CREEK, EVERY FIFTH GRADER AND EVERY SEVENTH GRADER COMES THROUGH THE WETLANDS CENTER, OUR AND MAJOR CENTER FOR, UM, PART OF THEIR SCIENCE CURRICULUM. PLUS WE HAVE A GROUP OF NINTH GRADERS, UM, BIOLOGY AND A APPLIED SCIENCE STUDENTS, KIND OF THE MAJORS, THE PRESCHOOL PROGRAMS THROUGH DISTRICT. SO WE DO A LOT OF PROGRAMMING WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, PLUS WE HAVE SCHOOL DISTRICTS RUNNING AROUND THE AREA. HOWEVER, WE'RE ALWAYS TURNING ON DOWN BECAUSE THEY, AROUND ANOTHER SCHOOL DISTRICT WILL WANNA BRING ALL OF THEIR FOURTH GRADE. GOTCHA. WE JUST DON'T HAVE ROOM FOR THAT. WE LIKE TO HAVE SOME SPACE TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT. AND THE NATURE CENTER HAS NO INDOOR SPACE AT ALL THAT NOW, OTHER THAN THAT TINY LEVEL INFORMATION CENTER UP FRONT. SO WE CAN'T REALLY PROGRAM, IT'S HARD TO PROGRAM FIELD TRIPS OUT THERE BECAUSE IT'S ALL WEATHER DEPENDENT, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE OUTSIDE. YEAH. DID Y'ALL SAY HEAR ABOUT HOW LONG IT WOULD TAKE IF THIS WERE TO BE A SUCCESSFUL BOND ISSUE TO, I MEAN, WE'RE IN THE, WE GOT A PRELIMINARY CLAIM, BUT IT'S NOT A FINAL BILL. I DON'T THINK SO. SEVERAL YEARS TO GET THIS GOING AT THE BOTTOM RIGHT. SO TO GET OUT, TO FINALIZE THE, UM, WHAT, WHAT WOULD BE IN THAT BUILDING FACILITY, RIGHT? WE HAVE A SKETCH DESIGN, WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE. ALL THE COMPONENTS ARE NECESSARY TO FACILITATE WHAT THE VISION IS FOR NATURE CENTER AND ALSO SOME OF THOSE OUTDOOR, UM, FOR THEUM THAT'S NECESSARY. SO WE, COMPONENT DESIGN PROBABLY TAKE ABOUT YEAR AND THEN, BUT WITHIN FIVE YEARS IS TWO YEAR PROCESS. IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THE 13,000,001 IS LISTED UNDER FACILITIES. IT'S NOT LISTED UNDER PARKS. THAT WAS AN ADJUSTMENT MADE. SO IF YOU'RE LOOKING FOR IT LATER ON, THAT'S THE ACTUALLY BROCHURE IS A UNAD PARK IMPROVEMENTS. YEAH. SO UNAD PARK IS A, UH, HAS A LARGE COMMUNITY PARK LOCATED OVER HERE ON . UH, REALLY CLOSE TO TO LOCATION HERE AT NOW. UH, IT'S A, IT IS A WELL USED PARK. IT HAS A SKATE PARK CURRENTLY. UH, THE REVIST PLAN WOULD BE TO, UH, ADD A LARGE ADDITIONAL PARKING LOT, UH, WHICH WOULD BE RIGHT OFF THE FEEDER OF 1 46. UH, THERE'S A**L KIND OF IMAGE THERE ON WHAT'S LISTED ON PAGE THREE OF THE PROJECT, UH, BOOK. UH, IT ADD TWO FOOTBALL FIELDS. UH, YOU COULD ALSO JUST SAY RECTANGULAR, RECTANGULAR FIELDS. UH, THE REASON WE SPECIFICALLY CALLED OUT FOOTBALL FIELDS IS THAT CURRENTLY BAYTOWN HAS NO, UH, FOOTBALL FIELDS, NO GAME READY FOOTBALL FIELDS IN, IN OUR INVENTORY. UM, THE CURRENTLY YOUR FOOTBALL TEAM, UH, THE BEST PLACE TO PRACTICE IS VILLAGE, UH, OR IS BAYTOWN SOCCER PARK LOCATED ON . OVER THERE WE HAVE ONE FULL SIZE SOCCER FIELD THAT'S BEING USED BY FLAG FOOTBALL, TACKLE FOOTBALL, CHEERLEADING, YOUTH, UH, SOCCER, ADULT SOCCER, AGAIN, ONE FIELD. UH, WE HAVE FIELDS, UH, SCATTERED THROUGHOUT OUR, OUR PARK SYSTEM ONE OF WHICH IS AT , THAT PARK. BUT THERE'S NO RESTROOMS, THERE'S NO LIGHTS, THERE'S NO, UH, FENCING, THERE'S NO ANYTHING THAT CAN MAKE IT A GAME WORTHY FIELD. UH, AND THIS WOULD GIVE US TWO, UH, GAME FIELDS, UH, DIRECTLY NEXT EACH OTHER WITH A SMALL, UH, STORAGE CONCESSION SPAN. UH, AND AGAIN, A LARGE PARKING LOT, WHICH COULD BE NOTEWORTHY BECAUSE OF THE PROXIMITY TO THE PRIVATE VECTOR SITE. UH, PUT ON THE BOTTOM OVER HERE ON PAGE TWO, IT'S ABOUT A MILE AND, YOU KNOW, HAS A FLOW OR A CROW FLIES. YEAH, IT'S ABOUT A MILE, UH, TO THE, UH, TO THE VECTOR SITE. UH, WHICH IS ACTUALLY REALLY NEAT BECAUSE THE, THERE'S A LOT OF CONNECTIVITY WITH THE TRAILS, UH, THAT WE COULD CONNECT THAT PARKING TO BE AN OVERFLOW PARKING SITE FOR A LARGE, SHES A VECTOR OR LIKE CAME IN AND DID LARGE. SHES LIKE THAT. THIS WOULD BE A GREAT OVERFLOW FACILITY FOR THAT ALONE. UH, BUT THE MAIN INTENT IS TO GET TWO RECTANGLE FIELDS THAT WE USE FOR SOCCER OR, OR FOOTBALL. UH, THIS ALSO HAS A PUMP TRACK. UH, BAYTOWN CURRENTLY DOESN'T HAVE A PUMP TRACK, UH, CONCEPTUAL DESIGN OF A PUMP TRACK THAT'S LOCATED ON THE BOTTOM OF PAGE THREE. IT'S A, UH, IT'S FOR A BI, IT'S A BICYCLE TRACK. UH, THE, THE, IT MADE WITH LITTLE HILLS, YOUR MOMENTUM. YOU DON'T HAVE TO PEDAL YOUR WHEELS AND PUMP THE BIKE TO GO AROUND. [01:00:01] I SEE. UH, IT, IT'S BECOMING A REALLY, UH, A LOT OF DIFFERENT, UH, CITIES ARE, ARE, UH, INSTALLING THEM. THEY'RE, UM, IT'S ACTUALLY CALLED OUT IN OUR MASTER PLAN, UH, AS A NEW PARK COMMITTEE TO ADD THIS TO STAY RELEVANT. UM, AND THEN IT ALSO EXPANDS THE SKATE PARK AS WELL, WHICH IS REALLY HEAVILY TO USE. IF YOU GO OUT THERE, IF YOU EVER GO OUT THERE, TAKE A LOOK AT THE SKATE PARK'S. CRAZY. SO, UM, BUT AGAIN, THE MAIN PRIORITY IS THE TWO FOOTBALL FIELDS OR RECTANGLE FIELDS THAT CAN BE USED. HOW WOULD THAT TAKE US TO GET IN FUNCTION PLANNING PHASE? AND I DON'T QUITE SEE HOW THAT PARKING WILL WORK WITH THOSE DISTANCES RIGHT HERE. IS THERE ROOM THERE FOR THIS BIG? YEAH, SO THE WAY THAT, THAT THE PARK KIND OF ANGLES, IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE PAGE TO THE LEFT, THOSE BUSINESSES ARE ACTUALLY RIGHT THERE ON THE RIGHT AND THE ROAD KIND OF COMES BACK AROUND THE RIGHT TOO. RIGHT. SO IT MAKES KIND OF A, AN A SHAPE YEAH. WEDGE WHERE THE BUSINESSES ARE. SO THE PARKING LOT IS, I DUNNO WHAT DIRECTION IT, I GUESS IT'S WEST OF IT IF YOU THINK OF IT. SO THE PARKING LOT, THERE'S ACCESS TO THE, THE FRONT EDGE ROAD BEFORE YOU GET TO THE BUSINESSES RIGHT HERE, COMING OFF ONE SIX. IT JUST LOOKS LIKE A VERY SMALL AREA OR A PARKING LOT. WELL, JUST AN ENTRANCE OF THE PARKING LOT ENTRANCE CURRENTLY THERE. AND IN THAT PARKING FOOTPRINT, IT, THE PARK AS IT SITS DOWN, OR IS A TOOL? WALL FIELD IS A PRACTICE TOOL. FIELD SPACE RATHER. AND THE WOODED AREA COULD BE CLEARED FOR PARKING, BUT IT IS, IT IS REALLY NOT WOODED. IT IS, UH, IT IS A LITTLE BIT AROUND THE PERIMETER OF IT, BUT IT IS, UH, THE PARKING LOT WOULD PRIMARILY BE WHERE THE FOOTBALL FIELD IS NOW. THE FOOTBALL FIELD WOULD SHIFT OVER, SHIFTED OVER TOWARDS AIR CARD. MM-HMM . THE NEXT ONE IS THIS SAFE ROUTES DEPARTMENT, ? UH, YES, SIR. THIS WAS A, UH, A PLAN THAT WAS KIND OF, UH, DEVELOPED AS PART OF, UH, BAYTOWN, UH, MD ANDERSON, UH, GROUP THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THIS. THEY DID A STUDY TO A LOT OF OUR PARKS, UH, IN BAYTOWN. THIS WAS LIKE THE CONNECTING PIECES OR, UM, EITHER TO REPAIR OR PLAY SIDEWALKS OR TO INSTALL NEW SIDEWALKS WITH THE AIM TO, UH, HAVE A WALKABLE PARK. ANYBODY IN BAYTOWN? IT IS, UH, IT WAS, UH, A FIVE, A FIVE MINUTE OR ONE MILE COMMUTE TO A PARK OFF STREET, UH, ROUTES THE PARKS. SO THIS IS VARIOUS ALL OVER THE CITY. I'M WONDERING IF WE'RE GETTING OUR ASSIGNMENT HERE. THE STREETS SIX. SO SIDEWALK REPAIR, PEDESTRIAN CROSSING, AND NEW SIDEWALKS. AND THAT'S ALL THROUGHOUT THE PARK SYSTEM. IT'S NOT JUST, IT'S NOT JUST EACH FOUR THAT WE'RE LOOKING HERE ON ONE PAGE. CORRECT. AND THIS WOULD PROBABLY BE A PLAN, OR THERE ACTUALLY IS A PLAN. IT WAS, UH, CONDUCTED BY HARRIS COUNTY, UH, HARRIS COUNTY HELPED, UH, CONDUCT THEIR PLAN. OKAY. IN THE, THE RO NEIGHBORHOOD DISTRICT, WE HAVE THE CYCLE PARK AND THE MORGAN FIELD. THERE'S ALSO A COUPLE BLOCKS SPLASH PART THAT EXISTS RIGHT ALONG THE BAKER. YEAH, IT'S A, YEAH, I DON'T SEE THE YET. YOU DON'T SEE WHAT IT'S, IT'S, IT'S NOT LISTED, CONNECTED. THE CONNECTIONS GOOD THERE ALREADY. YEAH, I THINK THAT WAS PART OF IT. SO YEAH. SO THE CONNECTION WOULD BE, UH, BAT ROY'S A LITTLE SOUTH. THEY FOCUS IN ON THE AREAS RIGHT HERE, UH, FOR LEONARD TO GET TO, UH, OUR BAYTOWN CYBER COMPLEX MM-HMM . BECAUSE THERE [01:05:01] IS A CURRENT SIDEWALK, UM, FROM BAT ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE ROAD. OKAY. THAT IS HOUSE WHERE THE HOUSES ARE UHHUH, BUT IT ENDS AT THAT INTERSECTION WHERE THE PARK IS. MM-HMM. AND THERE'S NO WAY TO GET TO THERE UNLESS WE A CONNECTION AND GOES TO THE LEONARD, UH, DOWN PORTION OF THE STREET. UH, THAT, THAT ENDS ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE OF THE DEAD ENDS ON THAT SIDE, ON THE WEST SIDE, BUT THE EAST SIDE. AND THEN YOU GET TO, SO LIKE ON BOTH SIDES OF LEONARD PARK, NO CONNECT BRIDGE THAT, ALL THOSE THREE PARTS. SO THIS IS BASICALLY PROVIDING SAFE ACCESS TO ALL PARTS THAT WE ALREADY HAVE. WE HAVE A STUDY DONE. WE COULD, IF YOU GUYS WANT MORE, WE COULD INCLUDE THAT. WE SHOULD HAVE DONE THAT AS OWN. SO PART, PART OF OUR MASTER PLAN WE WORKED WITH HARRIS COUNTY, WAS TO LOOK AT THESE SAFE BELT CONNECTIONS. WE HAD A BRAND, UH, TRAIL CONNECTION. WE LOOKED AT SMALLER CONNECTIONS COUNTY TO THE NEXT LEVEL. AND INVESTIGATING MUTUAL AT THIS IS PART OF OUR MASTER PLAN STEPS TO MOVE FORWARD ENGAGING IN THIS PROCESS. COOL. SO ARE WE, ARE WE NOW AT THE NATURE CENTER ENHANCEMENT? THIS IS, THIS IS THE ONE THAT I WAS DRIVING REFERENCING. THIS IS KIND OF LIKE, UM, THE EXTRAS. I, I USED THE TERM THE GRAVY ON THE BISCUIT AT A PARKS DAY. IT SEEMS TO BE STICKING. SO THIS WOULD BE JUST A LITTLE LANE APP OR A LITTLE BIT OF EXTRA. SO WE, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE IDEAS ABOUT SEVERAL DIFFERENT AMENITIES THAT WE WOULD LOVE TO SEE OUT THERE WHEN STAFF IS OUT THERE. UM, SOME THE INTERCOURSE, LIKE YOU SEE HERE, SOME LITTLE BOARDWALK. THERE'S SOME AREAS STILL IN THE NATURE CENTER THAT THERE'S REALLY NO ACCESS TO. WE'D LOVE TO HAVE SOME BURNING BOARDWALK OUT THERE. UM, IN APRIL WE BECAME AN OFFITE FIELD TRIP FOR THE FIRST TIME WITH GALVESTON FEATHER FEST. SO THAT WAS A BIG DEAL FOR US TO BE ABLE TO NOW BE INCLUDED, UM, IN THE BURNING COMMUNITY THROUGH GALVESTON FEATHER FEST. SO WE'D LOVE TO PUT SOME MORE. DID YOU SEE FEATHER FEST? YEAH. FEATHER FEST. UM, SO YES, THERE ARE SOME, SOME LITTLE EXTRAS THAT WE WOULD LOVE TO HAVE OUT THERE ONCE WE ARE ABLE TO MOVE A BUILDING AND A STAFF OUT THERE ON SITE. SO AS MUCH AS WE LOVE PLANTING THE SEED HERE, YEAH. THE OTHER ONE IS MUCH MORE HIGH PRIORITY. AND ALSO IF WE HAD ALL THE MONEY, IT WOULD PROBABLY BE REQUIRED PLANS. PERHAPS IT WOULD TAKE TIME. PUT RF OUT, GET SOME IDEAS FROM YEAH. THIS IS A QUESTION, MORE AN OBSERVATION OF, UH, YOU KNOW, GRANTS AVAILABLE FEDERAL FUNDING FOR SOME OF THESE, BUT SURPRISED THERE'S NOT FOR STATE FOR TRAILS, YOU KNOW, THOSE TRAIL GRANTS AND OCCASIONALLY SOME PARK GRANTS. AND YOU'RE RIGHT, THERE COULD BE SOME, SOME OPTIONS THERE. WE HAVEN'T REALLY DONE A LOT OF ING AROUND YET BECAUSE WE'RE NOT, WE WOULD BEFORE WE DROPPED THE BAY BOX FOR SURE. THANK YOU. GOOD POINT. AND THIS LOOKS LIKE, UH, THE PICTURE IN THE BROCHURE, UH, INDICATES, IS THAT THE RED LINE AROUND FACILITY OR IS THAT IT'S, UM, THAT'S, THAT'S FOR THIS ONE IN PARTICULAR WILL BE SCATTERED FOR THE A PUTTING NEW SIDEWALK SYSTEM. YES. BOARD, EXTERIOR BOARD ALL WAY AROUND. AND THERE'S QUESTIONS ON THAT ONE. THERE MIGHT BE SOME WAY TO WORK WITH GALSTON BANK FOUNDATION, SOME OF THIS. UM, IT'S FUNNY THAT YOU SAID THAT. WE JUST ARE FIXING TO BREAK GROUND OUT THERE. IT HAS TO BE DONE BY, GONNA [01:10:01] BE DONE BY THE END OF THIS MONTH, UH, WITH GALVESTON BAY FOUNDATION AND TCQ AND PARK WILDLIFE TO BUILD A, UH, AN OYSTER REEF EDUCATION REEF OUT THERE. SO, UM, WE DO DO THINGS WITH G COUNTY FOUNDATION. UM, WE, THE WORK THAT THEY DO, AND, YOU KNOW, THIS COULD BE SOMETHING THAT THEY BE THE FUTURE. THERE ARE NUMBER OF FAMILIES ALONG NORTH ETTE TO TRY TO GROW OYSTERS, HELP THEIR PEERS RIGHT NOW. AND THAT'S TRUE. BUT DON'T TELL THEM. DON'T TELL THEM. UM, NOW WE, WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THAT PART FOR A LONG TIME. THEY ACTUALLY APPROACHED US ABOUT PUTTING THIS BECAUSE IT'S, IT'S RESEARCH AND EDUCATION, UM, YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE VERY SPECIFIC TO DIFFERENT S MM-HMM . SO IT'LL BE INTERESTING TO SEE WHAT HAPPENS WITH THIS PROJECT, BUT IT'S COMING. YES. SO GOING BACK TO SAFETY HERE AND A COMBINATION OF THINGS, UM, IF, YOU KNOW, THAT ENTRANCE RIGHT THERE IS RIGHT LIKE A HUNDRED FEET FROM THE RAILROAD STATION. MM-HMM . ONE OF THE PROJECTS FOR THIS PARK IS REMOVED THAT ROADWAY FURTHER DOWN, ROUGHLY AROUND 200 FEET OR BASED ON THAT INTERSECTION, THEY'RE RIGHT THERE. WE NEVER GET OUT THERE. THERE'S A RAILROAD TRAINS COMING THROUGH BECAUSE, UM, THE FIRST TWO CARS WILL BLOCK THAT INTERSECTION EITHER WAY. SO, UM, IT'S VERY PROBLEMATIC. UM, THE, THE PARK WAS DEVELOPED IN PHASE, IN THE FIRST PHASE WHEN YOU TURNING IN THAT CORNER WHERE RAILING IS, UH, WAS THE FIRST PHASE OF THE PARK. EVERYTHING SOUTH OF THAT WAS THE SECOND PHASE. SO THE ROAD WAS ALREADY PUT IN WITH THE FIRST PHASE OF DEVELOPMENT OF PARK. SO IT'S NEVER MOVED FROM THAT SECOND PHASE. SO THIS WILL HELP MOVE INTO UNIFYING THOSE TWO PARCELS TO WORK TOGETHER. RIGHT NOW THEY'RE FIGHTING AGAINST EACH IS THE INTERSECTION BASED ON YOUR PROPERTY LOT. SO, UM, PART OF THAT IS, IS REALLY STRATEGIZING. YOU'RE GONNA BUILD A NEW ROAD. YOU DON'T WANT TO BE TRAVELING DOWN, BUILDING A BUILDING AND MATERIALS AND IN AND OUT ON A BRAND NEW ROAD. YOU WANT TO PHASE THIS. YOU'RE LOOKING AT TRYING TO DO THOSE IMPROVEMENTS ON THE OLD ROAD, UH, AND USING THAT BY CONSTRUCTING A NEW ROAD PARALLEL, SO TO SPEAK, UH, TO THAT. UH, SO IT'S REALLY A COMPONENT OF MOVING PARTS TO BETTER DO ALL THE IMPROVEMENTS YOU NEED TO DO ON THAT OLD ROAD, CONSTRUCTING A NEW ROAD TO, TO MAKE A BETTER DEVELOPMENT, UM, PLAN OUT AND STRATEGIZE. WE'RE DOING THAT FUTURE, FUTURE IMPROVEMENTS RIGHT NOW WHILE WE GOT A BRAND NEW ROAD GOING IN, WE CAN UTILIZE AND MEET UP THAT ALL WE WANT TO, UH, WHILE THE NEW ROAD CONSTRUCTED TO GET THE NEW, UH, FACILITY THAT WE WANT TO BUILD A TWIN OF ROSELAND, UH, TO BUILD A NEW CLUBHOUSE IN THE PARK, UH, AS A NEW PARKING, MUCH NEEDED PARKING FOR, UH, JEEP. IF YOU HAVE NEVER BEEN OUT THERE, WE HAVE ONE OR TWO EVENTS FOR BASKETBALL AND BASEBALL GOING ON. PARKING, UH, HIERARCHY AS MUCH NEEDED, ESPECIALLY WITH THE SOCCER IS, UH, FULLY ACTIVE EVERY NIGHT MILITARY WHERE IS AND OVERFLOWING, UH, FOR OUR SOCCER PITCH, FOR NEW SOCCER PITCH. ONE OF THE THINGS DOING IS WHY WE'RE BUILDING THE OTHER ONE THAT WE ON THAT OLD ONE AS SOON AS THAT REPLACING. SO, UM, IT'S REALLY A PLANNING PROCESS FOR THIS PROJECT TO, UH, PUT ALL THE PIECES TOGETHER AND MOVING PARTS TO MAKE IT COHESIVE, UH, DEVELOPMENT AND UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT HAPPEN IN SEQUENCE WITH ALL THE DESTRUCTION IMPACTS THAT WILL HAPPEN. BUILDING DID I SAY ABOUT FIVE MINUTES TOGETHER? AND WE'LL CLOSE UP. THANKS. UH, DID I TAND THIS LOOKS LIKE PROJECTED BUDGET IS 7.5 MILLION AND AND IT INCLUDES THE BASKETBALL COURT CLUB HOUSE, THE BROTHER. CORRECT. SO IT INCLUDES ALL THAT. I MISUNDERSTOOD. NO, IT INCLUDES ALL OF THAT. YES. NO, WHAT WE ARE DOING, THE DESIGN FOR IT WILL BE DOING THE DESIGN FOR EVERYTHING. BUT THIS WILL, THIS FUNDING WOULD IN, IN ANTICIPATION FUND THE THE PROJECT. YES. AND THAT SOUNDS LIKE THAT'S ONE OF OUR MOST HIGHLY WATER AND COMPLEX. CORRECT. THE QUESTION IS TWO SUCKER FIELDS [01:15:01] THAT YOU BOTH FIELDS. DOES ANYBODY GET US WHERE WANT PARK? SO I, I THINK IN AND OF ITSELF, I THINK IT, THOSE SOCCER FIELDS THAT ARE OUT THERE ARE INTENDED TO RECREATIONAL USE. THEY'RE, THEY'RE SMALL SIDED INDOOR, THEY'RE INDOOR SIZE SOCCER FIELDS THAT ARE ATTENDED FOR RECREATIONAL USE. UH, WE DON'T PROGRAM 'EM VERY MUCH AT ALL. UH, AND SQUARE ELSE SAYS THEY'RE EXTREMELY CROWDED, RIGHT? BUT THAT'S BY DESIGN. UM, I THINK WITH THAT, IN ADDITION TO, UH, VILLAGE LANE BEING THERE ALREADY BASED ON SOCCER BAR AND IF UNAD WAS BUILT OUT, THE COMBINATION OF THE THREE WOULD ABSOLUTELY BE, BUT NOT, AND, AND YOU, WE, WE HAVE TO BE REALLY CAREFUL NOT TO OVER, UM, BUILD JENKINS PARK. BUT JENKINS PARK HAS A GREAT FAN BASE AND IT IS GREAT, BUT WE REALLY NEED TO START SPREADING THAT AROUND, UH, TO ALLEVIATE SOME OF THAT STRAIN. AND SO WE CAN MAKE A, A PROGRAMMABLE SPACE AND UNIDAD OR HAVE VILLAGE LANES ON IT OR PROGRAMMABLE SPACE WHERE WE COULD KEEP THOSE UP AS GAME RATE FACILITIES. AND THEN WE COULD HAVE A RECREATIONAL USE SPREAD OVER TO DUKE HILL AND TO, UM, SO WE'RE SUPPOSED TO TALK AT THE FIRE STATION. SORRY, FIVE MINUTES ON IT. TELL US ABOUT THAT. EVERYBODY KNOW, DON'T WANT ANY FIRE PRETTY QUICKLY. UM, THIS CASE WAS BUILT IN THE MID EIGHTIES. IT'S OVER THERE OFF OF, UM, ALEXANDER. AND, UM, HE FELL JUST OFF THE MAIN. AND UH, I THINK THE MAIN ISSUE WITH IT IS IT'S SPACE LIMITATIONS. BUT, UM, JUST TO GIVE YOU A KIND OF THE ATTACHED SHEET OR THE PACKET YOU HAD WAS GIVEN TO YOU, WAS THAT THE FACILITY STUDY THAT WAS DONE FIVE YEARS AGO. AND YOU CAN SEE, UM, SOME OF THE LISTINGS IN THERE, THE DIFFERENT SYSTEMS AND THEIR CONDITIONS BACK FIVE YEARS AGO. AND WHAT I WILL SAY ABOUT THE FACILITY FIRST IS THAT WHEN IT WAS BUILT, IT WAS BUILT WITH A SINGLE DOOR LOAN. SO HALF THIS, HALF THE SPACE IS WHAT THE DORM LOOKS LIKE. SO THERE'S A BUNCH OF BEDS IN ONE SINGLE ROOM THAT'S OLD STYLE FIRE STATIONS. AND ALSO, INTERESTINGLY ENOUGH, A SINGLE LOCKER ROOM WITH A SINGLE SHOWER ROOM, WHICH I CALL THE OLD MIDDLE SCHOOL GYM SHOWER, WHICH NO ONE RUNS. RIGHT. AND SO THAT WAS THE OLD STYLE OF THE FIRE STATIONS. AND THAT'S WHAT THIS STATION HAS OBVIOUSLY FIRE. OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT IS INVOLVED. WE'VE HIRED QUITE A FEW FEMALES AND WE THEN MET WITH THE CHALLENGE OF NOT HAVING FEMALE FACILITIES IN SOME OF OUR STATIONS. THIS WAS ONE OF THEM. WE DID MAKE SOME MODIFICATIONS, TOOK THE PUBLIC CRET ROOM, REMODELED IT, PUT A SHOWER IN THERE AND MADE IT THE FEMALE ROOM. WE TOOK THE CAPTAIN'S DOOR, MADE THAT A FEMALE LOCKER ROOM, BUT WE HAVE A LOCKER ROOM FOR FEMALES AND STUFF. UM, WE HAD TO CREATE A RELAXATION SLASH LACTATION ROOM BECAUSE THAT'S PART OF, UM, REQUIREMENTS OUT THERE NOW. AND WE HAVE A LOT OF, UM, NEW MODELS. AND SO WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY CAN WORK AT DIFFERENT STATIONS WITHOUT THE ISOLATED JUST A FEW STATIONS. AND SO WE DID THE BEST WE COULD WITH THE STATION STATION, BUT IT REALLY, THIS STILL DOESN'T MEET THE NEEDS, STILL DOESN'T HAVE THE PRIVACY, UM, COMPONENTS THAT IT NEEDS. WE GOT OUT OF THE BAY, WE BUILT A CAPTAIN'S OFFICE BY TAKING A BASE BASE. AND SO WE'VE LOST BASE SPACE. UM, I'VE MENTIONED IN HERE THE CASE STANDARDS ON CONTAMINATION AND EXPOSURE TO OUR BUNKER GEAR THAT IT SITS OUT IN THE BAYS, IT'S EXPOSED TO THE, UM, TRUCK EXHAUST. IT SHOULD BE IN ITS OWN ROOM. AND THAT'S, WE'RE TRYING TO GET FOR ALL OF OUR STATIONS, BUT THIS STATION DOESN'T HAVE SPACE TO ADD A ROOM BECAUSE IT SITS IN THE . SO WE HAVE THAT ISSUE. WE DON'T HAVE HOT AND COLD AREAS TO SEPARATE CONTAMINATION, THINGS LIKE THAT. NEW STATIONS ARE BUILT WITH THOSE TYPES OF ZONES. SO THIS DOESN'T HAVE ROOM TO DO THAT. AND THEN FINALLY, OUR APPARATUS CONTINUES TO GET BIGGER. AND UM, IF YOU LOOK AT THE PICTURES, THIS IS A DRIVE THROUGH STATION, WHICH IS ALWAYS WHAT WE PREFER BECAUSE THERE'S LESS ACCIDENTS THAT HAPPEN. AND THEN THE BACK END, OUR APPARATUS, OUR CAR TRUCKS HAVE GOTTEN BIGGER OVER THE YEARS. AND SO GETTING IN THE BACK AND MAKING THAT TURN IN THE STATION IS, I WOULDN'T SAY IT'S IMPOSSIBLE BECAUSE THEY DO IT, BUT WE HIT THE BUILDING QUITE A FEW TIMES. WE STOPPED FIXING IT, BUT WE JUST CONTINUE TO PICK. UM, AND IT'S JUST, IT'S JUST NOT, UM, MEETING OUR NEEDS. AND SO, UM, WHAT WE REALLY NEED TO BE DOING IS, IS LOOKING FOR A PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT'S APPROXIMATELY THREE ACRES GIVE OR TECHNICALLY DEPENDS ON ACCESS ISSUES AROUND IT. YOU CAN USE LESS SPACE IF YOU'VE GOT ROADS IN THE BATHROOM SIDE TO GET IN AND OUT. AND SO IF YOU ALSO LOOKED AT THAT, THERE'S NO PUBLIC PARKING, SO IT ONLY COULD COME TO THE STATION. IT'S ALL OFF IN THE BATHROOM. UM, I LIST A [01:20:01] BUNCH MORE THINGS. WE OUT FAR AND KNOW THE SOUTH SIDE AND WITH 99 GOING DOWN, EXPECT THERE BE MORE COMMERCIAL STUFF COMING IN. AND WE'LL BE LOOKING AT ADDING LADDER TRUCK DOWN THERE. SO THIS MONEY WOULD BE FOR BOND ACQUISITION, DESIGN ACQUISITION PROPERTY, PROPERTY DESIGN. THIS ONE IN, IN THE 15 MILLION BUILDING RIGHT HERE. ALMOST MUCH LIBRARY. MIKE, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO, RIGHT? SO I KNOW YOU ASK QUESTIONS. I'M SORRY, I KNOW YOU'LL ASK QUESTIONS. YOU KNOW WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO, RIGHT? YOU ASK ME TO TAKE MINUTES? NO, NO, NO. NOT YOU. I TAKE THEM. YOU WOULDN'T? NO. WE DON'T WANT YOU TO TAKE MINUTES. ALRIGHT, WELL Y'ALL, SERGIO, ALRIGHT, GO AHEAD. WOULD YOU LIKE I'LL TRY TO ANSWER WHATEVER QUESTIONS YOU HAVE. WE CAN'T, WE'LL TAKE THEM DOWN AND COME BACK NEXT TIME WHEN YOU ANSWER. YEAH, YEAH. EVEN IF WE GET ANSWERS, WE'RE GONNA, WE'RE GONNA PULL THIS TOGETHER LATER. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU. OKAY. SO, UH, I'M NOT GONNA READ THE DESCRIPTION. YOU CAN, YOU CAN READ IT YOURSELF, BUT KIND OF OF THE OVERVIEW. THIS IS FOR GARTH ROAD BETWEEN, UH, ARCHER AND, UH, WEST. WEST CEDAR BY LYNCHBURG. THAT'S PHASE C. UH, AND THEN BETWEEN, UH, CEDAR BY LYNCHBURG. AND IS THAT LIKE IN FRONT OF BEST BUY? WHAT ROAD IS THAT? UH, MANOR. MANOR. SO THAT'S PHASE D. AND THEN PHASE E IS FROM MANOR DOWN TO, IT SEEMS LIKE THE BAKER FRONT OF THE HOSPITAL, RIGHT? BY BANK OF AMERICA. SO, UM, HERE WE'RE SEEING, UH, THE BOND AMOUNT WOULD BE 35 MILLION AND THAT'S A SUIT. AND THEN ASSUMING THAT THERE'S A GRANT OF 53 7 MILLION, UM, THIS IS FOR THE RECONSTRUCTION OF ALL THOSE THREE PHASES, RIGHT? YES. SO THAT THIS IS A COMBINED PROJECT. OKAY. SO IT'LL BE SEGMENT, CD, AND E TOGETHER IS ONE PROJECT. OKAY. UM, I CAN GIVE YOU A LITTLE BACKGROUND ON THE GRANT. UM, WE MADE CERTAIN ASSUMPTIONS WITH THIS. UM, THE ASSUMPTION IS, YOU KNOW, SIMILAR TO WHAT WE HAVE CURRENTLY FUNDED THROUGH HJC WITH SEGMENT A AND B. SO A AND B IS I ATTEND TO JUST SOUTH OF ARCHER, AND IT IS FUNDED THROUGH HJC BY A FEDERAL GRANT. UM, GENERALLY THOSE GRANTS ARE 80%, UH, FEDERAL AND 20% LOCAL. SO THE CITY IS RESPONSIBLE FOR 20%. HOWEVER, WE HAVE ADDITIONAL ITEMS THAT WE HAVE TO PAY FOR AS A CITY. UM, WE HAVE MADE A DECISION TO MAXIMIZE OUR CONSTRUCTION DOLLARS. SO THE CITY IS PAYING FOR ALL OF THE DESIGN FUNDS, YOU KNOW, ALL THE FUNDS TO DESIGN THE PROJECT. SO, UH, THAT'S IN ADDITION. AND, AND THE CITY HAS TO PURCHASE ALL THE LAND THAT WE REQUIRED TO RODDEN WIDEN THE, UH, STREET. SO, UH, RIGHT OF WAY ACQUISITION IS ANOTHER COST THAT WOULD BE A HUNDRED PERCENT ON THE CITY. UM, AND YOU KNOW, THERE'S CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT THAT GOES ALONG WITH THAT. SO THERE'S BASICALLY THE 80 20 ON THE CONSTRUCTION PIECE PLUS A HUNDRED PERCENT ON THE CITY FOR THE ADDITIONAL ITEMS. AND SO THAT, THAT'S WHY IT'S NOT, YOU KNOW, EXACTLY 80 20, IT'S, IT'S A LITTLE MORE ON THE CITY. AND, UH, BY THE WAY, THE CITY IS RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY COST OVERRUNS. SO IF WE INITIALLY GO IN THINKING IT'S GONNA BE, YOU KNOW, $80 MILLION, IT COMES OUT TO BE $90 MILLION. WELL, THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT CAPS THEIR AMOUNT, SO THAT ADDITIONAL 10 HAS TO GO TO THE CITY. AND WHERE WOULD THAT MONEY COME FROM? SO THAT IS PROPOSED TO COME FROM THE BOND, THE COST OVERRUN PROPOSED TO COME FROM THE BOND. UM, [01:25:02] EVERYTHING ASSOCIATED WOULD, I MEAN, YOU WON'T KNOW ABOUT THE COST OVERRUN UNTIL AFTER IT HAPPENS. GOT 8 MILLION PROFIT RUN DOWN A MILLION, GOT 2 MILLION. WELL, I'M NOT SAYING IT'S GOING, I'M NOT SAYING IT'S GOING OVER. I I UNDERSTAND THAT. MY QUESTION IS, IS THAT IF IT DOES, IF IT DOES, THAT WASN'T A BOND TANK, UM, IT COULD EITHER COME FROM THE BOND AND MAYBE TAKE, IT'S GONNA HAVE TO TAKE AWAY FROM ANOTHER PROJECT, BASICALLY. SO THIS IS DESIGNED AND ACQUISITION. IT'S NOT CONSTRUCTION IT DESIGN, ACQUISITION, CONSTRUCTION HERBICIDE. IT'S NOT, IT, IT'S NOT THE CONSTRUCTION. THE PROJECT ON THE CITY PORTION, ON THE CITY PORTION OF IT, THE CITY WOULD BE PAYING 20% OF THE CONSTRUCTION. THE PROJECT IS TO CONSTRUCT GARTH ROAD FROM ARCHER TO JUST SOUTH OF BAKER. IT, IT IS A CONSTRUCTION PROJECT. UM, IT'S ALREADY BEING DESIGNED. SO, UM, WE ARE ABOUT READY TO START RIGHT AWAY. THAT WAS MY NEXT QUESTION. IS THE DESIGN DONE? IT'S UM, 80%. ABOUT 60%. OKAY. HOW OLD ARE THESE PROPOSALS? WHEN WERE THEY FIRST DONE? THE, THE ESTIMATES YOU MEAN? UM, THEY WERE DONE EARLIER THIS YEAR, SO THEY'RE PROBABLY FIVE, FIVE MONTHS OLD OR SO. AND THERE, THERE IS, THAT BRINGS UP A GOOD POINT. YOU KNOW, UM, THESE ARE JUST ESTIMATES. THERE, THERE CAN BE ESCALATIONS. SO THINGS LIKE THE TARIFFS THAT ARE PROPOSED, UM, HAVE AN IMPACT ON CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS AND, YOU KNOW, THEY, UH, COULD COST, YOU KNOW, SOME ESCALATION IN THE COST ON ALL THE PROJECTS. RIGHT. INDUSTRY AND SAY WE'RE, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE FACING BECAUSE OF TARIFFS AND RIGHT. JUST PUTTING PROJECTS ON HOLD AND LOOKING AT WHERE YOU CUT COSTS BASICALLY. SO, OKAY. THANK YOU. WE, WE DID PUT CONTINGENCIES ON ALL OF THE CONSTRUCTION COSTS. SO WHAT WE DID IN THE BACKGROUND IS WE WENT THROUGH RECENT BID ITEMS FIVE MONTHS AGO, ESTIMATED, AND THEN ADDED, UH, CONTINGENCIES 15, 20, 30% DEPENDING ON WHERE THE PROJECT WAS. AND SO IF IT, IF IT HADN'T STARTED DESIGN YET, THAT MEANS WE, WE PUT A LARGE CONTINGENCY ON THAT. SO THERE ARE SOME CONTINGENCIES IN THESE NUMBERS, BUT THE, THE TARIFF HAS, WE'RE STILL TRYING TO FIGURE OUT THAT THE CONSTRUCTION INDUSTRY STILL TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THAT IMPACT IS. UM, OKAY. LIKE VOLATILITY CLAUSES THAT COMES STUFF, OKAY. MM-HMM . YEAH. SO THIS FINAL 89 MILLION HAS, THAT'S THE AMOUNT, INCLUDING THE TARIFF SITUATION, IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? THAT THAT'S INCLUDING, UH, A 15% CONTINGENCY? UM, THERE'S A CONTINGENCY FOR ANY, ANY, UH, ESCALATIONS, BUT IT'S ALL, IT'S 15%. SO, YOU KNOW, TERRACE MIGHT, MIGHT DRIVE IT HIGHER THAN 15%. RIGHT. SO YOU STATED ALSO THAT YOU'RE, THE CITY IS BUYING THE LAND AROUND TO DO THIS. CORRECT? YES. ALL THE DOLLAR PAYING ALL OF THAT. YES. ON, ON TOPIC. YES. SO THIS, UH, 89 MILLION, BECAUSE IT REALLY DOESN'T CLARIFY EXACTLY WHAT THAT'S PAYING FOR. IT JUST SAYS FOR WIDENING. BUT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT, UH, THE CONSTRUCTION CREW, THE EVERYTHING, THE, THAT YOU'RE PAYING FOR THEM? THE CONCRETE Y Y'ALL NOT GONNA DO LIKE AND PATCH IT UP? NO, NO. RIGHT. NO, THIS IS A FULL RECONSTRUCTION. SO THE PAVEMENT WOULD BE COMPLETELY REMOVED AND, YOU KNOW, UH, THEY WOULD START WITH THE UNDERGROUND. THEY'RE INCREASING THE SIZE OF THE DRAINAGE SYSTEM. SO COMPLETELY NEW DRAINAGE SYSTEM WOULD, WOULD BE PUT IN, UM, THAT WOULD COMPLY WITH CURRENT REGULATIONS. UH, THE WATER AND WASTEWATER PIPES THAT GO ALONG. GARTH WOULD ALSO BE REPLACED, UH, WHICH IS WHAT WE'RE DOING ON SEGMENT A AND B RIGHT NOW. UM, AND THEN THEY WOULD REDO THE, THE PAVEMENT WITH NEW PAVEMENT. UH, SO THEY WOULD TAKE AWAY THE CENTER TURN LANES AND PUT MEDIANS THERE WITH, YOU KNOW, LEFT TURN LANES IN, IN CERTAIN LOCATIONS. UH, AND THEY WOULD ADD A LANE ON EACH SIDE. AND THE ONLY THING I DON'T LIKE ABOUT WHAT THE CITY DOES WHEN THEY DO ROAD WORK IS THAT THEY DO ONE THING AND THEN THEY GO, OH, OOPS, WE NEED TO DO IT THIS WAY AND BREAK UP ALL THE MONEY THAT WAS SPENT ON ONE THING MM-HMM . TO START IT OVER. AND THAT TO ME IS SO WASTEFUL ON THE CITY'S PART. SURE. AND I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THIS 89 MILLION IS NOT GONNA GO INTO DESTROYING WHAT Y'ALL ARE DOING NOW WITH JUST PAST WHAT COUNCIL JUST PASSED AND GO BACK, UH, WHICH IS, UH, ALSO THE [01:30:01] A AND B AND C OR WHATEVER IT IS THAT PART, 'CAUSE CAN YOU CLARIFY EXACTLY WHAT THAT IS DOING? SO THE A AND B IS, UH, THE SECTION NORTH OF THIS, THIS PROJECT. SO A AND B IS A SEGMENT FROM I 10 TO JUST SOUTH OF ER. OKAY. THAT'S, THAT'S SEGMENT A AND B. AND IT'S BEING FUNDED. IT IS GONNA BE FUNDED UNDER A C, WHICH IS A TOTALLY DIFFERENT BOND THERE. THERE'S SOME OF THE CITY LABS, SOME OF THE CITY MATCH WILL BE UNDER A CEO. AND HOW MUCH WAS THAT AMOUNT? UM, SO WE HAVE SOME THAT WAS ISSUED IN PREVIOUS BONDS THAT ARE, YOU KNOW, IN THE PROJECT WE JUST ADDED $4 MILLION BECAUSE OF, YOU KNOW, COST ESCALATIONS THAT WE'VE SEEN. SO, UM, THE 4 MILLION GIVES US ENOUGH FOR THE MATCH THAT WE ANTICIPATE WILL BE NEEDED, BUT WHAT THE PROJECT SHOULD GO OUT TO BE NEXT MONTH AND WITHIN, YOU KNOW, A COUPLE MONTHS, WE SHOULD KNOW WHAT THAT FINAL NUMBER IS. YEAH. 'CAUSE I'D LIKE TO COMPARE BECAUSE THAT'S MORE OR LESS, YOU SAID THAT'S THE NORTH PART NOW WE'RE DOING THE OTHER PART. SO IT SHOULD KIND OF BE THE SAME AMOUNT. CORRECT. IT'S, I I DON'T THINK IT'LL BE THE SAME BECAUSE IT STARTED AT DIFFERENT TIMES. RIGHT. SO I'M TALKING ABOUT THE AMOUNT THAT THEY'RE SPENDING. YEAH. IT'S MATTER WHAT TIME WE, THIS IS GONNA BE A WHILE ANYWAY BEFORE IT EVEN STARTS. THERE'S DIFFERENT, I JUST WANT, YEAH, BUT I STILL WANNA SEE IT. IT'S GONNA BE DIFFERENT. WELL, I THINK, WELL, A AND B IS OUT OF THE SCOPE OF THIS. WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS C NO, I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU'RE NOT UNDERSTAND WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY. I WANT AMOUNT, WHAT IT COST OVER THERE TO COMPARE WHAT IT'S GONNA COST TO HERE, REGARDLESS OF TIMING AND WHAT IT'S STILL ON GAR AND IT WAS THE WIDENING AND FIXING. SO WHATEVER THEY SPEND OVER THERE, WE CAN COMPARE IT TO WHAT THEY'RE SPENDING EVERY YEAR. SO IT, IT, WE HAVEN'T STARTED CONSTRUCTION ON A AND B YET, SO WE DON'T KNOW THAT NUMBER YET. THAT'S WHY I SAY IT'S GONNA GO OUT TO BID, UH, IN JUNE AND HOPEFULLY BY THE END OF JUNE WE SHOULD KNOW WHAT THAT CONSTRUCTION AMOUNT WILL BE FOR A AND B. I WOULD SUSPECT THAT THE MONEY THAT YOU SPENT ON AN ITEM THAT YOU START IN JANUARY WILL NOT BE THE SAME COST PER MILE OF A ROAD THAT YOU START A YEAR LATER BECAUSE THE CONSTRUCTION COSTS WILL INCREASE GOING UP. THAT'S CORRECT. YEAH. SO, AND WE HAVE TO COMPARISON WON'T MATCH BECAUSE THE NUMBERS ARE GONNA BE PAID UPON ECONOMY AND CONSTRUCTION COSTS. YES. I'M NOT PICKING ON GOOSE CREEK, BUT WE POURED SLABS WITH NEW SCHOOLS AT TWO O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING BECAUSE WE COULDN'T GET CONCRETE BECAUSE THE PLANTS WERE BUYING CONCRETE AND THE CONCRETE COST WENT UP THREE TIMES AS MUCH. SO THAT'S GONNA BE RIGHT. IF YOU CAN'T COMPARE COSTS, THE ONLY THING YOU DO IS ESTIMATE IT, PUT THE CONTENTIONS IN AND YES. AND GET A BID. YOU MAY GET A BID AND NOT LIKE ANY OF THE BIDS. SO THE COST OF COMPARISON IS DIFFERENT. AND AGAIN, THAT'S NOT WHAT THIS BOND PIECE IS ABOUT. UM, I UNDERSTAND YOUR CONCERN, I GUESS IF YOU WANT THAT YOU CAN MAKE A PUBLIC INFORMATION REQUEST TO THE CITY AND THEY CAN PROBABLY COME UP WITH A NUMBER. I HAVE A QUESTION ON THE GRAND MONEY. SO THIS IS STATE MONEY. IF I, AND I SUSPECT I KNOW THIS ANSWER, THEY HAVEN'T APPROVED THEIR NEXT BUDGET ALREADY BEEN FUNDED BY, IS IT SET ASIDE IN THE STATE OR IS IT IN THEIR NEXT BUDGET THAT THEY HADN'T APPROVED YET? THE THE PROPOSED IT, THIS IS A PROPOSED GRANT. WE DON'T HAVE FINAL, IT'S NOT BEEN FUNDED. UH, AND, AND IT'S FEDERAL FUNDS THAT ARE ADMINISTERED THROUGH TXDOT AND, UM, HOUSTON, GAR, HOUSTON, GALVESTON AREA COUNCIL. SO, UH, THE HOUSTON GALVESTON AREA COUNCIL ADMINISTERS THE, THE, UH, TRANSPORTATION IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM, WHICH, UH, GARTH ROAD SEGMENT A AND B WAS FUNDED UNDER. NOW SINCE A AND B WAS FUNDED UNDER THIS PROGRAM, WE BELIEVE THAT C, D AND E WILL BE FUNDED AS WELL. 'CAUSE IT'S THE SAME PROJECT REALLY. UM, SO WE ARE, YOU KNOW, GETTING THE PROJECT READY FOR THE GRANT FUNDING, ALTHOUGH IT'S NOT, YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE, UH, YOU KNOW, THE TRANSPORTATION IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM HAS A CYCLE OF FUNDING AND THEY ONLY FUND FOR THE NEXT, UH, TWO YEARS. SO WE WEREN'T IN THE FUNDED CYCLE, BUT WE HAVE A PROJECT THAT IS READY TO BE FUNDED, SO WE THINK WE COULD GET INTO THE NEXT FUNDING SIDE. ALRIGHT. AND, AND WE WOULD ONLY BE ELIGIBLE FOR FUNDING IF, IF OBVIOUSLY THE BOND PASSES. RIGHT? WELL, UM, SO WHEN THE, [01:35:01] THE CITY HAS TO BASICALLY COMMIT TO HAVING THE MATCH. OKAY. AND IF THE BOND FAILS, I, I DON'T KNOW IF THE CITY CAN COMMIT TO, TO THE MATCH. OKAY. HAVING THAT MATCH. OKAY. YEAH. I HAVE A QUESTION. WHAT, UH, WHAT EXACTLY IS DESIGN AND AND ACQUISITION? LIKE, CAN YOU DEFINE EXACTLY WHAT THAT IS? SO IT'S, AND WHY EXACTLY IS IT SO EXPENSIVE? WELL, I DON'T KNOW IF I CAN SAY WHY IT'S SO EXPENSIVE. UM, DESIGN IS THE, UM, HIRING OF A CONSULTANT TO PRODUCE ENGINEERING PLANS AND SPECIFICATIONS THAT THE CONTRACTOR USES TO CONSTRUCT THE PROJECT. SO, UM, THERE'S, YOU KNOW, A LAW AND THE STATE LAW SAYS, YOU KNOW, ANYTHING OVER A CERTAIN AMOUNT HAS IN VALUE HAS TO BE DESIGNED BY A REGISTERED PROFESSIONAL ENGINEER. DO Y'ALL PICK THAT? YES. SO WE PICKED THE ENGINEER ON, ON THIS CASE. UH, WE ALREADY HAVE A ENGINEER WHO'S BEEN SELECTED AND THEY, UM, WHO WORKING ON THE DESIGN. SO THEY, THEY PRODUCE THE PLANS AND SPECIFICATIONS THAT WILL BE USED, UH, FOR THE BIDDING AND BY THE CONTRACTOR WHEN HE GOES TO BUILD A, A PROJECT. AND THE ACQUISITION ACQUISITION IS, UM, FOR THE CITY TO PURCHASE LAND. UM, THAT, BECAUSE THIS IS A WIDENING PROJECT, SO LIKE A RIGHT OF WAY THAT YOU'RE BUYING THE LAND. YEAH. WE'RE BUYING, WE'RE BUYING THE RIGHT OF WAY, UM, BECAUSE THE, THE STREET'S GONNA BE WIDER AND WE'RE GONNA NEED ADDITIONAL ROOM ON EACH SIDE. UH, AND SO WE GOTTA BUY THAT FROM THE PROP PRIVATE PROPERTY OWNERS. WHEN YOU SEE THE THINGS HERE THAT SAY DESIGN AND ACQUISITION, YOU KNOW, $2.1 MILLION, THAT'S INCLUDING THE COST OF BUYING THE PRIVATE LAND FOR THE INDIVIDUAL OWNERS. I MEAN, I'M JUST PICKING A NUMBER OFF OF HERE. THERE'S ONE THAT SAYS GAR ROAD RECONSTRUCTION PHASE AT DESIGN AND ACQUISITION, ONLY 2,000,100 OH YES. DOLLARS. RIGHT. SO I MEAN THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT THAT'S INCLUDING. AND THEN THE PAPERWORK OR, OR WHO THEY'RE ACTUALLY DESIGNING WHAT THE ROAD IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE. RIGHT. OKAY. RIGHT. ALRIGHT. SO THAT, THAT LAND IS TYPICALLY, THAT THAT EXPENSIVE YOU WOULD SAY, OR, YOU KNOW, LAND ALONG GARTH ROAD IS FAIRLY EXPENSIVE. OKAY. AND IF YOU, YOU KNOW, HAVE, IF YOU'RE TAKING TOO MUCH LAND, YOU, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE AN IMPACT TO THE BUSINESS AND YOU HAVE TO PAY FOR THAT IMPACT. SO IT CAN BE A SIGNIFICANT COST. OKAY. IS THERE A BREAKDOWN OF HOW MUCH COST? EXACTLY. LIKE HOW MUCH ARE WE PAYING THE ENGINEER VERSUS HOW MUCH WE'RE PAYING FOR THE LAND AND THE ACQUISITION AND ALL OF THAT? UM, I, I DON'T HAVE THOSE RIGHT OFF, BUT WE CAN GET YOU THOSE ESTIMATES. ALRIGHT. OKAY. ON CEDAR BAYOU, ARE YOU, WHAT IS THE CITY PAYING SINCE Y'ALL ARE BEEN PAYING FOR? UH, SO, UM, ON, ON THIS PROJECT, THE CITY IS RESPONSIBLE FOR, UH, THE RIGHT OF WAY ACQUISITION. AND THIS IS ANOTHER WIDENING PROJECT. SO IT WILL HAVE A SIGNIFICANT RIGHT OF WAY COSTS ON THIS PROJECT. THIS PROJECT IS A, UM, PARTNERSHIP WITH HARRIS COUNTY. SO HARRIS COUNTY IS DOING THE DESIGN WORK AND, UM, WE'VE PARTICIPATED IN THE COST OF THE DESIGN, BUT THEY ARE, THEY ARE LEADING THE DESIGN AND IT, IT'S UNDERWAY AS WELL. UM, AND IT IS A 50 50, IT'S A 50 50 AGREEMENT. SO, UH, THE CITY PAYS 50% OF CONSTRUCTION AND HARRIS COUNTY WOULD PAY 50%, BUT THE CITY HAS TO PAY ALL THE RIGHT OF WAY COSTS BECAUSE THE CITY WOULD OWN AND MAINTAIN THE ROADWAY AFTER IT'S CONSTRUCTED. YES, MA'AM. REGARDING THE PURCHASE OF LAND, IF YOU DON'T HAVE A WILLING SELLER, DOES THAT MEAN THERE COULD BE AN INLET DOMAIN ACTION AGAINST YES, MA'AM. OKAY. HAVE YOU EVEN DISCUSSED ANY OF THIS TO THE PEOPLE THAT DON ARE PLANNING ON DOING THIS? BEFORE I BROUGHT ON CEDAR BY LYNCHBURG, UM, I, I KNOW WE'VE HAD SOME DISCUSSION. I WE HAVEN'T STARTED THE RIGHT OF ACQUISITION BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THE FUNDING RIGHT NOW. UM, BUT THE PROCESS WOULD BE THAT WE WOULD, UH, GO TO COUNCIL WITH A, UM, UH, I THINK IT'S A DETERMINATION OF PUBLIC NECESSITY. SO COUNSEL WOULD SAY, YES, THIS PROJECT IS A PUBLIC NECESSITY AND THE ADDITIONAL RIGHT OF WAY IS NEEDED FOR THE PROJECT. AND THEN AFTER THAT POINT, THAT, [01:40:01] UM, GIVES US THE AUTHORIZATION TO, YOU KNOW, PURCHASE THE RIGHT OF WAY. AND IF NECESSARY, YOU KNOW, CONDEMN, UH, IF THE OWNER WON'T, WON'T AGREE, WE, WE HAVE THE AUTHORIZATION TO CONDEMN AND USE IMMINENT DOMAIN, BUT DOESN'T THE CITY ALREADY OWN SOME OTHER PROPERTY IN THE FRONT? UM, BECAUSE I KNOW THEY DO MINE BECAUSE I TRIED TO PUT STUFF ON, THEY SAID PAT 22 FEET IS THEIRS. SO SAME, CINDY DOES OWN SOME YEAH. FOR SAN JACINTO BOULEVARD, WE HAVE TO DO THE SAME THING WE HAD TO PURCHASE RIGHT AWAY. I THINK THE QUESTION IS, IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE ASKING? YOU ALREADY HAVE RIGHT OF AWAY, YOU JUST NEED A LITTLE MORE YES, THAT IS RIGHT. RIGHT. AND SO YES, BECAUSE IT'S WIDENING. SO CEDAR BY LYNCHBURG IS GOING FROM A TWO LANE ROADWAY, ONE LANE IN EACH DIRECTION, AND IT WILL, UH, THE DESIGN CALLS FOR TWO LANES IN EACH DIRECTION, PLUS THE CENTER TURN LANE. UH, SO IT'S GOING FROM TWO LANES TO FIVE LANES AND THE DITCHES WOULD GO AWAY, BE REPLACED BY, UH, UNDERGROUND STORM DRAIN SYSTEM AT, AS WELL AS A TRAIL ON THE SOUTH SIDE. SO IT'S A SIGNIFICANTLY WIDER PROJECT THAN WHAT'S THERE NOW. AND ACTUALITY, I DON'T THINK YOU'RE GONNA HAVE ANY DIFFICULTY WITH THOSE PEOPLE. THEY'RE GONNA WANT EXTRA LANES. IT WOULD BE A HUGE IMPROVEMENT AND, AND IT'S A BIG SAFETY ISSUE YOU HAVE IN THOSE DEEP DITCHES. I JUST HAVE A CLARIFYING QUESTION. THE, UH, THE PROJECT BUDGET, 46 MILLION, IS THAT THE COST OF BUILDING IT? EVERYTHING DONE? YES. FOUR, $6 MILLION LATER THERE'S A FIVE LANE. UH, THAT'S THE ESTIMATE. THAT'S ESTIMATE, RIGHT? THAT'S THE INTENT, RIGHT? YES. FROM, UH, GARTH ROAD TO ALL THE WAY TO WADE, BASICALLY? NO, NO, THAT, SO THE PROJECT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT JUST GOES FROM GARTH TO JUST PAST JOHN MARTIN. THERE'S A FUTURE PHASE THAT WOULD BE FROM JOHN MARTIN TO WADE, UM, PICTURE JOHN. OKAY. SO YEAH, SO THE PICTURE MAY IS WRONG. THIS PROJECT IS ONLY GARTH TO JUST PASSED JOHN WHITE. SO THAT'S ABOUT, UM, A LITTLE MORE, IT'S NOT EVEN HALF OF WHAT'S SHOWN ON THIS MAP. IT'S 46 MILLION. THAT'S A, THAT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS WHERE WE LOOK AT THIS AND SAY, I THINK WE'RE GOING TO WA BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THE PICTURE I, I DIDN'T NOTICE. I DIDN'T NOTICE THE LESS HALF OF THE SYSTEMS. WELL, THE DESCRIPTION SAYS THAT AS WELL. IT'S NOT, OKAY. WELL, IT'S WRONG. YEAH. SO WHAT IS THE ACTUAL PROJECT? IT'S, THE PROJECT IS FROM GARTH TO, UH, JUST PAST JOHN MARTIN. OH, WOW. YEAH. IT'S, WHICH IS VACANT A LOT LESS THAN WHAT, WHAT THE, UH, DEADLINE. SO WE, WE NEED TO REVISE THAT. SO THAT'S, THERE'S A FOLLOW UP ITEM. JUST TO CLARIFY THE SCOPE OF WORD THAT'S AN DOES FALLING INTO COUNTY JURISDICTION? IT IS. AND THAT WOULD BE, THAT THAT WOULD BE, SO IT'S NOT FUNDING CURRENTLY, BUT THAT WOULD BE THE SECOND PHASE OF THIS PROJECT AND, AND THE COUNTY WOULD TAKE CARE OF THAT. I, I CAN'T COMMENT ON WHAT THE COUNTY WILL DO. SERGIO, I HAVE A QUESTION. SO WE'VE LEFT NORTH ROAD AND WE'VE MOVED INTO ANOTHER PROJECT. I, I MEAN, I DIDN'T HEAR, DISCUSS THAT. WE NEED TO HAVE DISTINCTION WHEN WE LEAVE ONE PROJECT, GO THE NEXT PROJECT, OR WE'RE GONNA WANDER AROUND THE CACTUS LEAD ALL DAY LONG. SO WE DONE WITH THE GOLF DISCUSSION RIGHT NOW. YEAH. OKAY. WE DISCUSS THAT. WELL THAT MY, THAT'S MY BAD. SO, UM, LET ME CLEAR THAT UP. GARTH WROTE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF GARTH WROTE, I HAVE A QUESTION. OKAY. SO THE STATEMENT ON THE BACK WILL TALKS ABOUT THE A FFA AND IT SAYS IT'S AGREED TO FURNISH CODE 42 MILLION, AND THEN THE CITY OF TOWN IS COVERING APPROXIMATELY 12.5. CAN YOU CLARIFY THAT? LET ME SEE WHERE, WHERE, OKAY. MIDDLE OF THAT PARAGRAPH. OKAY. A FA AFA COST FOR THE PROJECT AMOUNT 54 A FFA IS BU 41. SO I THINK THAT IS FROM SEGMENT A AND B. OKAY. WHY? SO WE DON'T, WE DON'T HAVE, WE DON'T HAVE AN A FA THAT COVERS CD AND E, THAT THE A FA IS FOR A AND E. WHAT IS A FA? IT'S AN ADVANCED FUNDING AGREEMENT. UM, WITH, THAT'S WITH, UH, TEXDOT? YES. SO TXDOT ADMINISTERS THE FEDERAL FUNDS. OKAY. SO IN ORDER TO, UH, GET THOSE FUNDS, THE CITY [01:45:01] WOULD DO AN AGREEMENT WITH TDOT AND IT'S CALLED AN ADVANCED FUNDING AGREEMENT. UM, SO THE, THE, THE NUMBERS HERE LOOK, UH, TO ME LIKE THEY'RE THE ONES FROM SEGMENT A AND B. SO I REALLY, I THINK THIS HAS GOTTEN YEAH, BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT A CONFUSED HERE WITH A AND B AND, UM, I WOULD, YEAH, I WOULD, I WOULD LOOK GOOD. GOOD QUESTION. LOOK AT WHAT BOND FUNDING NUMBER IS AT THE BOTTOM $35 MILLION. RIGHT. AND SEE IF EVERYTHING UP HERE IN THE PARAGRAPH MATCHES TO 35 MILLION. RIGHT. AND YOU START SEEING MORE THAN THAT. THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. THESE ARE NUMBERS FROM SEGMENT A AND BII CAN TELL. THANK YOU. PROBABLY THIS ADDITIONAL INFORMATION PIECE IS ALL, WE WOULD GO THROUGH THE SAME PROCESS WITH CD AND E. UM, SO THAT'S WHY I SAY ONCE YOU GET INTO THAT FUNDING CYCLE, THEN YOU DO AN ADVANCED FUNDING AGREEMENT WITH TXDOT AND THAT COMMITS THE CITY TO PROVIDING THE MATCH AND, UH, FROM, FOR THEM TO PROVIDE THE FEDERAL FUNDS. THANK YOU. FRANK. DO WE HAVE ANY NUMBERS ON WHAT THE ECONOMIC DOWNSIDE WOULD BE IF WE DON'T PASS THIS PARTICULAR BOND? HOW MUCH IS GONNA HAVE TO BE REPLACED ANYWAY? DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA HOW MUCH ASKING? UM, WE HAVE NOT DONE A STUDY TO QUANTIFY THAT. UM, I CAN TELL YOU IT, UH, IT WAS FUNDED, UH, WITH FEDERAL FUNDS BECAUSE REALLY TWO ISSUES, UH, THEIR SAFETY CONCERNS, UM, WITH THE CENTER TURN LANE THAT CAUSED A LOT OF, UH, HEAD ON, YOU KNOW, POTENTIAL COLLISIONS. AND THERE HAD BEEN A LOT OF COLLISIONS. SO IT WAS FUNDED BASED ON SAFETY CONCERNS. UH, THE OTHER REASON IS TRAFFIC IMPACT. SO, UM, WE'RE ADDING ANOTHER LANE TO HELP WITH THE TRAFFIC FLOW. SO YOU, YOU WON'T HAVE, YOU KNOW, THOSE BENEFITS IF THE, THE BOND IS NOT PASSED. AND, AND I CAN TELL YOU IF YOU DO, YOU KNOW, A AND B, BUT YOU DON'T DO CD AND E THEN YOU KNOW, UH, IT WILL PROBABLY CAUSE MORE TRAFFIC CONGESTION BECAUSE THEN YOU'RE GOING DOWN THREE, THREE LANES TO TWO, YOU KNOW, UH, AND, AND THERE WILL BE A LOT OF AESTHETIC IMPROVEMENTS TO GO ALONG WITH THIS. WE'RE REMOVING, UH, A LOT OF THE OVERHEAD TELECOMMUNICATION LINES AND THOSE ARE BEING PUT UNDERGROUND. MM-HMM . SO THE ONLY THING OVERHEAD SHOULD BE THE ELECTRIC POWER LINES. UM, WE'RE ALSO, YOU KNOW, UH, SAY DOING MEDIAN IMPROVEMENTS THAT WILL HAVE THE POTENTIAL TO HAVE SOME, UH, AESTHETIC, UH, FEATURES LIKE SCULPTURES AND THINGS LIKE THAT. UM, AND ALSO A TRAIL SYSTEM. SO YOU HAVE A SHARED USE PATH, WHICH, UH, VARIES FROM I THINK 10 TO 12 FEET. SO IT'LL MAKE IT MORE PEDESTRIAN FRIENDLY. UM, AND IT, AND THAT WILL, YOU KNOW, ADD TO THE, THE ECONOMIC VIABILITY OF THE CORRIDOR. WE JUST, WE HAVEN'T, YOU KNOW, TRIED TO QUANTIFY THAT IMPACT. SO, AGAIN, JUST A CLARIFYING QUESTION FOR ME. PHASES, C, D AND E FROM ARCHER TO JUST PAST BAKER ROAD, CORRECT? YES. YES. 35, 30 $6 MILLION OF BOND MONEY WOULD YES. CONSTRUCT THAT. RIGHT. THAT ENTIRE SECTION COUNTING ON 54 MILLION IN GRANT FUNDING. YES. RIGHT. AND AGAIN, SPECIFICALLY THE GRANT FUNDING IS FROM, THAT WOULD BE FROM HJC THROUGH THE HJAC, WHICH, WHICH THEY'VE GOT A BUDGET. RIGHT. UH, AND THEY, UH, SO THEY, THEY ADMINISTER, LIKE I SAID, THE TRANSPORTATION IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM. UH, AND UH, SO THIS WOULD BE, THAT'S HOW, YOU KNOW, SEGMENT A AND B WAS FUNDED AND IT WOULD BE IN THE SAME PROGRAM. HAVE YOU SEEN ANY REDUCTIONS ON THE FUNDING THOSE GROUPS ARE RECEIVING TO DISPERSE? UM, I, I HAVEN'T SEEN THE NEW, UH, TIP BUDGET, SO I, I DON'T KNOW. OKAY. ALRIGHT. I KNOW, I KNOW SOME ORGANIZATIONS ARE, THEY'RE, THEY'RE POOL OF MONEY HAS BEEN REDUCED FROM WHAT THEY'VE HAD. RIGHT, RIGHT. SO THE, THERE COULD BE, THERE COULD BE IN THE FUTURE OR REDUCED GRANT FUNDS? UH, UH, I DON'T KNOW SPECIFICALLY. OKAY. DO THEY JUST HAVE A, A SET AMOUNT FOR DIFFERENT AREAS? THIS IS THEIR AMOUNT. IT'S, UM, SO IT IS DETERMINED BY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AND, AND THEY [01:50:01] DO THE BUDGET. SO THEY'LL ALLOCATE SO MUCH FUNDING, YOU KNOW, FOR TRANSPORTATION IMPROVEMENTS AND THAT THAT'S WHAT THESE FUNDS ARE. IT'S DETERMINED BY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. I HAVE A QUESTION FOR OFFICER SOMAN THAT RAISES ANOTHER, THAT RAISES AN INTERESTING QUESTION. SO IF WE DON'T GET THE GRANT MONEY, THEN THE PROJECT DOESN'T GO FAR. SO WHAT IS, WHAT IS THE, WHAT DOES THE CITY DO AT THAT POINT? CAN THEY GO TO THEN, CAN THEY GO TO THE CO 'CAUSE OF THAT STATUS? THEY COULD. THEY COULD. OKAY. SO THE CITY COULD FUND THE WHOLE PROJECT? WELL, NO, HE'S SAYING IF WE, IF THE GEO PASSES, BUT UH, WE DON'T GET THE GRANT AND THE BOND'S DATED ACCORDING TO WHICH I TELL, UH, THE BOND WOULDN'T BE DEAD. LIKE I SAY, I I'M ASSUMING YOU ASKED IF THE, IF THE BOND PASSES THE REFERENDUM, BUT THEN WE FAILED TO GET THE GRANT. YEAH. AND AT THAT POINT, PARDON THE JASON THAT WE ALL SAID EARLIER, THEN WE WOULDN'T DO THE PROJECT. THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT WE WERE TOLD. MY QUESTION IS, IF THAT'S THE CASE, IS THERE OTHER OPTIONS FOR COUNSEL TO COME BACK AND DO IT? THEY COULD THEN DO A CO BECAUSE YES, THEY COULD. BECAUSE TECHNICALLY THE BOND RIGHT? IN ENTIRETY. YES. ARE WE GOOD WITH GARTH? OKAY. IS HERE BY YOU? YEAH, WE TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT IT. I JUST MET, I JUST MEASURED THE DISTANCE IN THE, UH, IN THE CLARIFICATION YOU SAID FROM JOHN MARTIN TO GARTH, THAT THAT'S THE PROJECT? CORRECT. OKAY. THAT'S 0.0952 MILES. AND THE TOTAL PROJECT COST IS OVER $46 MILLION. I MEAN, THAT IS JAW DROPPING EXPENSES FOR A, FOR A ROAD PROJECT. UM, WELL, I CAN TELL YOU IT'S, THEY'RE, THEY'RE DOING SO MANY THINGS YOU, YOU NEED, UH, LIKE I SAY, THEY'RE TAKING AWAY THE OPEN DISHES AND PUTTING IN, UH, STORM BOX CULVERTS. THOSE BOX CULVERTS HAVE TO BE HUGE. THEY'RE PROBABLY GONNA BE, YOU KNOW, 10 FOOT BY 12 FOOT CULVERTS THAT YOU HAVE TO BURY UNDERGROUND. UM, YOU KNOW, THAT'S GONNA BE A BIG EXPENSE. THEN YOU'RE, YOU'RE HAVING TO BUY THE RIGHT OF WAY, WHICH IS GONNA BE EXPENSIVE BECAUSE THERE'S GONNA BE A LOT ON EACH SIDE. UM, AND YOU'RE, YOU'RE REDOING ALL THE PAVEMENT AND YOU'RE ADDING THREE LANES OF PAVEMENT. THAT'S A LOT OF CONCRETE. SO, SO YOU'RE, YOU'RE, YOU'RE AT, IT'S A FIVE LANE ROADWAY SECTION PLUS A TRAIL. SO IT, I MEAN IF ANYTHING, I WOULD BE CONCERNED THAT'S NOT ENOUGH , BUT THAT OVERHEAD UTILITIES, ARE THEY GONNA BE PUT ON GROUND? UH, NO, THAT'S NOT PART OF THIS. SO THAT SCOPE SIMILAR TO WHAT'S ON THE GARTH ROAD, PAGE TWO WOULD BE HELPFUL TO HAVE THIS PROJECT A LITTLE BIT MORE. OKAY. OF THAT DETAIL. YOU HAVE EVERYTHING RIGHT? HEY, UH, JOHN, WHILE YOU'RE AT IT, CAN YOU FIGURE OUT THE LENGTH OF THE, UH, GARTH ROAD SECTIONS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT? IT'S TWICE THE MONEY. HOPEFULLY IT'S TWICE. I KNOW IT'S NOT AN EXACT COUNT. APPLE, APPLE PROJECT, BUT BECAUSE GUARD ROADS ALREADY PRETTY FIVE, RIGHT? I MEAN, BRIDGES ARE, I MEAN, FOR THAT COST ON, YOU COULD JUST ABOUT BUILD A BRIDGE OVER THAT ENTIRE AREA FOR THAT AMOUNT OF MONEY. I MEAN THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT FOR, DID YOU MAKE YOUR UH, YES, THAT'S WHAT I, Y'ALL MIGHT WANT TO, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT, UM, A CONSULTANT TO SHARE SOME OF THE COST, COST ESTIMATES, UH, THE, WELL, SOME OF THE BIDS THEY'VE UTILIZED TO PRODUCE THE COST ESTIMATES. AND YOU CAN SEE WHAT SIMILAR, YOU KNOW, ROADWAYS ARE COSTING. I SUSPECT THAT THE ACQUISITION COSTS ARE GONNA BE MUCH HIGHER THAN RETAIL. WE'RE ACTUALLY OVER GONNA GET A LOT LESS RIGHT AWAY ON GUARD. BUT YOU'RE DOING RETAIL. YEAH. IT, IT'LL BE MORE PERFECT DEPENDING ON WHERE YOU DROP IT BAG. I THINK WE'RE GONNA GET A LOT LESS OF IT IN THAT SHOP THERE. SO ABOUT A MILE, A MILE TWICE THE COST OF THE LITTLE LESS THAN A MILE OF TWO MILE INCH PER ROAD. AND YOU KNOW, THAT'S JUST FOR PERSPECTIVE. I MEAN WE, YEAH, SO YOU GET INTO THE, [01:55:01] THE DETAILED SCOPE OF WORK, YOU KNOW, YOU COULD HAVE 10 BY 12 CULVERTS OR NOT HAVE 'EM. THAT'S A HUGE COST. SO, AND AGAIN, THAT'S JUST UNDERSTANDING THE SCOPE OF WORK THAT RIGHT. THEY'RE DEALING WITH, UM, YOU KNOW, AND THEY GOT ALL THE DETAILS 'CAUSE THEY PUT, THEY PUT DOLLARS TO IT WHEN IT'S $106,000, YOU KNOW, INSTEAD OF 46,000,100, IT'S 41 0 6. SO $6,000 COUNT SOMEWHERE. SO I, I CAN BREAK IT DOWN. UM, GAR ROAD, C, D, AND E, UM, WE ESTIMATED 1.36 MILES'S JUST A LITTLE OVER MILE. OKAY. UM, ABOUT 30 OF THAT FOR WAS FOR PAVING. 27 OF THAT WAS FOR DRAINAGE. 5 MILLION FOR, UH, FIVE AND A HALF MILLION FOR WATER LINES. UM, 5 MILLION FOR SAN TERRY SEWER LINES. UM, ABOUT 7.5 MILLION FOR INTERSECTION, UM, RECONSTRUCTION. SO THAT INCLUDES SIGNALS AND ALL THAT, THINGS LIKE THAT. AND THEN 2.8 FOR RIGHT OF WAY ACQUISITION, 2.8 MILLION. UM, AND THEN ON TOP OF THAT, 2.2 MILLION FOR CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT. AND THEN 2.6 FOR MATERIALS TESTING DURING CONSTRUCTION. THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARIFICATION. NO PROBLEM. YEAH, THAT'S, THAT, THAT'S THE LEVEL OF DETAIL. IT KIND OF HELPS PUT IN PERSPECTIVE. IT IS WHAT, 80, 89 MILLION. DO YOU THINK THAT LIKE, WHEN YOU GO TO SELL THAT PROJECT TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC THAT THAT SHOULD BE INCLUDED? BECAUSE I MEAN, A LOT OF PEOPLE, ME FOR EXAMPLE, IS LOOKING AT SOMETHING LIKE THIS IS GONNA SAY, DAMN, REALLY, WHAT ARE Y'ALL DOING WITH ALL OF THIS MONEY? I MEAN, YOUR ANSWER IS A VERY VALID, VERY GOOD EXPLANATION FOR IT. BUT JUST THROWING A NUMBER OUT THERE AND SAYING, YEAH, HEY, WE NEED $46 MILLION FOR THIS STRETCH OF ROAD RIGHT HERE. I'M LIKE, MAN, WHY DON'T I JUST BUILD A BRIDGE OVER THE WHOLE AREA? YOU KNOW? I MEAN YEAH. AND I THINK, I THINK THAT'S GONNA COME DOWN TO THE COMMUNITY KNOWING WE GOT INTO THOSE DETAILS SO THAT WHEN WE GO OUT THERE AND START COMMUNICATING, WE CAN ANSWER THOSE KIND OF QUESTIONS. YOU CAN GO, I THOUGHT WE COULD BUILD A BRIDGE. BUT YOU KNOW WHAT THEY'RE PUTTING CULVERTS IN. THEY'VE GOT, THEY'VE GOT WATER LINES, THEY'VE GOT SEWER LINES, THEY'VE GOT, THEY'RE PUTTING COMMUNICATIONS UNDERGROUND, YOU KNOW, AND THEN YOU CAN SORT OF VALIDATE IT. WE'RE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO TOUCH EVERY SINGLE PERSON OUT THERE, BUT SURE. BUT THAT'S THE MESSAGE THAT WILL COME TOGETHER. 'CAUSE YOU'VE SEEN IT, YOU'VE ASKED THE QUESTION, YOU'VE TALKED ABOUT IT, AND NOW YOU'RE HEAD, YOU CAN GO, OKAY, WELL IT, IT'S A LOT OF MONEY, RIGHT? BUT EVERYTHING COSTS A LOT OF MONEY. AND ALSO PEOPLE THAT ARE INTERESTED AND THEN THEY'LL VOTE CAN SEE THIS MEDIA TO UNDERSTAND IT AND THEN MATT CAN PUT IT OUT THERE TOO. YEAH. I MEAN I THINK, I THINK THERE'LL BE A LOT. WE'RE WE'RE, WE'RE TRYING TO GET US TO UNDERSTAND IT, RIGHT? THERE'S GONNA BE A BIG CHALLENGE. THAT'S GOOD DATA FOR THE DISCUSSION. BUT I WOULD CAUTION THAT THAT KIND OF DATA BEING GOING INTO A PRESENTATION OF THE COMMUNITY BECAUSE WHAT HAPPENS, BUT SORRY TO, IF YOU HAD $5 FOR THIS AND IT COSTS SIX 50 FOR THIS, THEN YOU'RE GONNA HAVE AN ARGUMENT IN THE COMMUNITY. YEAH. AND THEN AGAIN, I THINK THIS INFORMATION IS GOOD FOR US TO KNOW IN OUR MINDS, VALIDATE THIS, THIS PROJECT THAT WE CAN, WE CAN STAND BEHIND IT. HOW WE CAN COMMUNICATED WITH THE PUBLIC IS GONNA HAVE TO BE IN A LITTLE BIT BROADER SKIN. I GUESS AS A CITIZEN, I WOULD BE ASKING, WHAT CONSTRUCTION COMPANY ARE YOU USING? WHAT DID YOU, ENGINEERS ARE USING AIN'T ALWAYS THE BEST. NO, IT'S NOT. BUT THEY STILL HAVE, THEY STILL HAVE STANDARDS AND, YOU KNOW, CODES AND ALL THAT. THEY GOT, THEY GOT BEAT BUT LOWEST BID. I MEAN, THAT'S TYPICALLY HOW EVERY INSTITUTION DOES IT. LOWEST BID, UH, THAT MEETS THE QUALITY STANDARDS, RIGHT? BID THE LOWEST BIDDER. IF THEY MEET THE CRITERIA, QUALIFICATIONS AND LOWS, BIDDER, THEY'RE QUALIFIED, RIGHT? SO, RIGHT. THAT WORKS. EVERYBODY DOES THAT. WHAT DO THESE PCI NUMBERS REFER TO? PCI IS PAVEMENT CONDITION INDEX. OKAY. AND IT IS, UH, A NUMBER ASSIGNED TO A ROADWAY BASED ON THE SMOOTHNESS OF THE RIDE. UH, SO IT RANGES FROM ZERO TO 100. SO 100 IS CONSIDERED A PERFECT STREET. THERE'S NO DEFECTS. UM, AND JUST REMEMBER IT'S A MEASURE OF THE SMOOTHNESS OF THE RIDE AND YOU CAN TRANSLATE, YOU KNOW, A ROUGH RIDE INTO, YOU KNOW, BAD PAVEMENT. BUT YOU KNOW, IT, IT'S NOT AN EXACT, UH, CORRELATION. 'CAUSE THERE ARE OTHER FACTORS. YOU KNOW, YOU MIGHT HAVE, UH, I DON'T KNOW, A ROADWAY THAT, UM, GOT A CON SAY A CONCRETE PAVEMENT WITH A LOT OF CRACKS, BUT, UH, THEY HAVEN'T SHIFTED AT ALL. UH, SO YOU HAVE BROKEN PAVEMENT, BUT IT'S STILL A FAIRLY SMOOTH RIDE. UM, THAT'S NOT A GOOD PAVEMENT, BUT THE, THE PCI IS NOT GONNA BE AS BAD AS ONE WITH MAYBE SOME OFFSET JOINTS. [02:00:01] SO IT, IT IS JUST IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER IT'S ONLY ONE FACTOR THAT YOU SHOULD CONSIDER IN, YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT WHETHER A ROADWAY SHOULD BE, UM, REHABILITATING. UH, THERE ARE OTHER THINGS, UH, ESPECIALLY LIKE THE TRAFFIC. UM, YOU KNOW, UH, I'D RATHER SPEND A MILLION DOLLARS ON, UH, A ROADWAY THAT CARRIES 10,000 CARS A DAY RATHER THAN ONE THAT CARRIES 10 CARS A DAY. YOU KNOW, SO YOU GOTTA LOOK AT THOSE. IS THAT WHAT WE'RE AIMING FOR? THE 100 PC? UH, SO THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT IS WHEN, UH, A ROADWAY IS BRAND NEW, BRAND NEW AND CONSTRUCTED PERFECTLY, THEY, THEY'LL, THEY'LL NEVER ALL BE 100. THEY'RE NEVER GONNA BE 100. SO 100 NEXT YEAR IT'S NOT 100 ANYMORE. RIGHT. TYPICALLY ON A BRAND NEW STREET, YOU'LL TYPICALLY LOSE AT LEAST TWO POINTS A YEAR ON CONCRETE, ABOUT TWO ASPHALT, YOU MIGHT LOSE THREE POINTS A YEAR. AND, AND WITH ANYTHING ELSE, THE OLDER THE STREET GETS, THE MORE POINTS YOU'RE GONNA USE PER YEAR BECAUSE IT'S GETTING BASE DAMAGE, JUST GETTING THERE. SO TRAFFIC, YOU KNOW, FLOW, ALL THOSE THINGS. HEAVY, HEAVY VEHICLES, ALL THIS STUFF. WE, UH, WE RAN, WE, WE RUN ALL THE STREETS IN THE CITY EVERY ABOUT FOUR YEARS AND CALCULATE THE PCI ON EVERY STREET. UM, OUR, WE LAST RAN IT IN 2024 AND THE AVERAGE FOR THE CITY WAS WHAT? 70? 72? I THINK. 72, YEAH. 70. 71 TO 74. GOT IT. SOMEWHERE IN THAT RANGE. SO THAT, THAT IS, YOU KNOW, IN THE GOOD, GOOD RANGE OF YEAH. PUTTING THESE TWO FIRST TWO PROJECTS THAT HAVE BEEN DISCUSSED FOR QUITE A WHILE. YES. IN PERSPECTIVE, YOU KNOW, ONCE, TWICE AS MUCH AS THE OTHER, THEY'RE BOTH A LITTLE LESS THAN A MILE, A LITTLE MORE THAN A MILE. BUT IF YOU LOOK AT WHAT THE BOND FUNDING COMPONENT IS, YOU KNOW, IT'S 35 MILLION FOR GARTH ROAD AND 27 MILLION FOR CEDAR BOTTLE. SO FROM THE STANDPOINT OF WHAT THE BOND WOULD BE PARTICIPATING IN FOR THOSE TWO PROJECTS, THEY'RE, THEY'RE NOT OFF BY A LOT BASED ON THE, UH, POLAR DOLLARS. SO IT'S NOT LIKE HALF OF 46 OR HALF OF THE 89 IS WHAT THE SEED BANK. SO YEAH, IT IS, THERE'S A LOT OF FACTORS YOU GOTTA CONSIDER. RIGHT. AND THAT, THAT IS BECAUSE ON CEDAR VALLEY, LYNCHBURG, IT'S A PARTNERSHIP WITH THE COUNTY AND IT'S A 50 50. YEAH. UM, THE GARTH ROAD IS, YOU KNOW, PROGRAMMED TO BE, UH, A FAIRLY FUNDED 80 20. RIGHT? SO 80% GRANT, 20%. SO THAT'S ANOTHER UNDERSTANDING THAT THE GRANT FUNDING PERCENTAGES ARE DIFFERENT. YES. WHETHER IT'S WITH THE COUNTY OR H HP C OR RIGHT. WHOEVER. RIGHT. WE'RE GETTING MORE BANG FOR OUR BUCK ON THE GARTH ROAD PROJECT THAN THE, EVEN THOUGH IT'S MORE MONEY YES. THAN THE CEDAR VALLEY. IF YOU LOOK AT BOULEVARD, UH, WHAT IS IT, FIVE YEARS OLD, SIX YEARS OLD, RIGHT NOW ON AVERAGE IS A PCI 84, IT STARTED OUT 105 OR SIX YEARS AGO. NOW IT'S AVERAGING 84. YEP. THAT'S A THAT, THAT NUMBER FOR CEDAR VALUE INCLUDED. THAT NUMBER VALUE INCLUDED. YES, SIR. IT'S NOT BROKEN DOWN IN THE SPREADSHEET. RIGHT. UH, LONG CAN YOU MAYBE GET DETAILS ON CEDARBURG NUMBERS? I JUST WANNA KNOW. WE'LL HAVE TO CHECK BECAUSE DESIGNS ALREADY STARTED, SO WE DID NOT INCLUDE THERE COUNTY DESIGN. THEY'RE DOING THE DESIGN AND, UH, I THINK WE'VE MADE OUR CONTRIBUTION FOR DESIGN ALREADY. SO WE DIDN'T INCLUDE DESIGN DOLLAR BECAUSE DESIGN IS ALREADY UNDERWAY BY THE COUNTY, SO THE CITY WON'T BE FUNDING THAT. RIGHT. SO AGAIN, ANOTHER REASON FOR SOME OF THESE NUMBERS TO NOT REALLY MATCH UP THE STREET LINKS AND ALL THAT IS SOME, THIS SUPERVISOR DOES NOT INCLUDE DESIGN. THERE. COUNTY ALREADY BEEN FUNDED. SO YEAH, THERE'S A LOT OF VARIABLES HERE. AND I THINK THERE AGAIN, JUST UNDERSTANDING WHY THERE'S A DIFFERENCE, RIGHT. YOU KNOW, JOHN, YOU CAN, YOU CAN PUT THESE TWO TOGETHER, THEY LOOK HEAD TO HEAD AND YOU GO, THEY, THEY DON'T LOOK RIGHT. WELL, THERE'S VARIABLES THAT WE DON'T KNOW. UM, SO THAT, AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO FIND OUT, WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DISCOVER RIGHT NOW. I I'M GONNA DO A TIME CHECK. SO WE'RE AT, WE GOT 30, 30 MINUTES OR SO LEFT. CAN WE DO THAT? ARE WE GOOD TO GO? THE NEXT ONE, WHICH IS WE'RE GOOD. ALL AS ASPHALT, ANNUAL RENEWAL OF ASPHALT. UM, SO ON THE BACK PAGE WE HAVE ABOUT, I'M AN EYEBALL 25 OR SO ROADS. UM, WE GOT THE PCI HERE ON THAT FOURTH COLUMN FROM THE RIGHT. UM, AND WE'RE BUDGETING 20 MILLION TO FOCUS ON THESE STREETS, SO CORRECT. UM, AND [02:05:01] THERE WILL BE NO, UH, GRANTS FUNDING. THIS IS ALL JUST CITY BOND MONEY, RIGHT. HOW HAVE WE BEEN PAYING FOR THE S OFF TO MAKE OUT THE STREET FUND TAX? WE PAY FOR PART OF IT THROUGH STREET MAINTENANCE, SALES TAX AND HOW MUCH MONEY THAT IS ANNUAL. UM, WE RECEIVE PROBABLY IN THE RANGE OF ABOUT FIVE OR 6 MILLION PER YEAR FOR STREET MAINTENANCE, SALES TAX. UM, A LOT OF THAT GOES TO FUNDING OUR PUBLIC WORKS CREWS WHO DO MAINTENANCE ON THE STREET UH, AS FAR AS BUYING MATERIALS AND, AND PAYING THEIR SALARIES, UM, ABOUT WHAT MAYBE 2 MILLION OR SO GOES TO CONTRACTS? ABOUT 2 MILLION OR SO FOR PAVEMENT. RIGHT NOW WE'RE, UH, JUST OVER A MILLION DOLLARS, LIKE $1,050,000 INTO ASPHALT STREETS. UH, A LOT OF IT IS OUR CONCRETE MATERIALS, UH, AND ALSO OUR CONCRETE CONTRACTOR RIGHT NOW, WHICH IS TEAMWORK THAT DOES SOME WORK FOR IT. BUT WE'VE BEEN, WE'VE BEEN TASK REASKED OFF THE STREET FOR A LONG TIME, SINCE THE LAST BOND. I MEAN, THIS IS NOT NEW. YES. SO WHAT THE CITY HAS DONE, WHAT THE CITY HAS DONE IS SUPPLEMENT THAT ONE TO $2 MILLION FROM STREET MAINTENANCE, STREET MAINTENANCE, SALES TAX WITH, UH, C OF DEBT. AND SO WE'VE HAD MAYBE ABOUT $4 MILLION A YEAR IN DEBT THAT WENT INTO, YOU KNOW, THE STREET PROGRAM IS IN ADDITION TO THE STREET MAINTENANCE SALES TAX. SO WHAT WE DID WAS THE 20 MILLION, WE FIGURED FIVE YEARS, THAT WILL BE $4 MILLION PER YEAR. THAT IS MY NEXT QUESTION. YES. THAT WILL BE $4 MILLION PER YEAR TO BASICALLY CONTINUE THE, THE LEVEL OF INVESTMENT. SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT FUNDING SOMETHING IN A BOND THAT THE CITY'S ALREADY BEEN FUNDING. FUNDING FOR THE LAST YES. 15 YEARS. WELL, FUNDING WITH THE GO BOND VERSUS CO. YES. THEY'VE BEEN FUNDING THAT WITH THE CO BOND. YES. OKAY. SO DOESN'T THE CITY MAKE CONCRETELY? THEY DO THEY HAVE A CONCRETE? WE DO. OKAY. DOES THAT COME IN PLACE? UH, THAT'S WHAT WE USE FOR OUR, UH, OUR PUBLIC WORKS CREWS. THEY, WHEN THEY ARE REPLACING THE STREET OR SIDEWALK, WE WILL PRODUCING CONCRETE FOR THAT. UM, WE, OUR CREWS AREN'T BIG ENOUGH TO DO MAJOR PROJECTS LIKE NORTH ROAD OR, YOU KNOW, A BIG PROJECT LIKE THAT. IT'S MORE LIKE MAINTENANCE. IT IS MAINTENANCE. WE COULD DO LARGE PANELS AND WE COULD RECONSTRUCT SMALL STREETS, LOTS OF SIDEWALK, BUT WE JUST DON'T HAVE THE PERSONNEL TO TAKE ON LIKE THE GARTH ROAD, MAIN STREET, ANYTHING LIKE THAT. UH, BUT I MEAN, NEIGHBORHOOD STREET WE CAN GO IN AND PLACE 10, 12 PANELS NECESSARY FOR, WE DO DO SOME HARD WORK. CAN I ASK, I WAS GONNA SAY, IS THERE ANYTHING THAT, UM, WE SHOULD KNOW ABOUT KIND OF THESE ROADS AND HOW THEY WOULD POKE, HOW YOU CHOSE 'EM AND YEAH, OF COURSE. ANYTHING WE START OUT A PCI INDEX, UH, WE BASICALLY BUILD OUR LIFT FROM DESK, PCI INDEX, SORT 'EM ALL OUT, START PUTTING 'EM TOGETHER. THEN IT'S ALL BOOTS ON THE GROUND. UH, WE RIDE. LOOK AT EVERY STREET, LOOK AT EVERY NEIGHBORHOOD HOUSE. IT'S GONNA IMPACT, YOU KNOW, AS, AS FRANK SAID EARLIER, IS THERE ONE HOUSE ON THIS STREET OR 40 HOUSES ON THIS STREET? WHAT'S IT COSTS? UH, I'M VERY, VERY FORTUNATE THAT, UH, MOST OF MY LEADERSHIP TEAM ARE ALL, IANS GREW UP HERE IN OTHER STREETS WITH THE SCHOOL HERE. FACT KIDS STILL GO IN SCHOOL HERE. SO I GOT A LOT OF, UH, HISTORICAL INFORMATION ABOUT STREETS FROM THEM. AND WE BUILD IT FROM THERE. WHAT'S GONNA GET US OUR BIGGEST BANG FOR THE BUCK AND THEN WE BUILD IT OFF OF HOW MUCH CAN WE DO AND SPEND IN A YEAR. UH, WE AVERAGED OUT 4 MILLION FOR THE NEXT FIVE YEARS. HEY, PUT TOGETHER A PLAN OF GROUPING. OKAY. YEAR ONE, WE WE'RE GOING TO DO DISTRICT, DISTRICT, DISTRICT, THIS STREET, UH, AND IT'S NOT A MILL AND OVERLAY, IT'S PRETTY, WELL YOU'D CALL IT A RECONSTRUCTION. WE GO IN, WE MILL IT, WE KEEP THE MILLINGS FOR OTHER PROJECTS, WE UNDERCUT THE STREET EIGHT TO 10 INCHES BECAUSE IT'S NOTHING BUT CLAY. LIKE EVERYBODY, WE TAKE THE EIGHT OR 10 INCHES OF CLOUD, WHETHER WE'RE GONNA GO WITH EIGHT OR 10 INCHES OF BASE DEPENDING ON THE TRAFFIC ON THIS STREET. UH, WE MIX A 7% LINE WITH IT. COME BACK IN WITH SAID WITH AGGREGATE BASE EIGHT TO 10 INCHES AND THEN A TWO SURFACE COURSE ON TOP OF IT. SO WE BUILDING STREETS TO LAST 30 YEARS. UH, THAT'S, THEN WE PUT IT INTO A PREVENTATIVE MAINTENANCE PROGRAM, WHETHER IT'S SEAL CODE OR MICRO CRACK SEAL. WE PUT IT ON A ROTATION THAT, FOR OUR PREVENTATIVE MAINTENANCE PROGRAM SO WE CAN ENSURE THAT THESE THINGS LAST 30 YEARS. THAT'S A GOOD CLARIFICATION OF WHAT THIS SCOPE OF WORK IS. IT'S NOT JUST RE ASPHALTING A ROAD. YEAH. IT, IT LOOKS LIKE THAT'S WHAT IT IS. RIGHT. BUT IT IT'S RECONSTRUCTING THE ROAD GROUND. UH, EVERYTHING HE JUST SAID IS, IS LIKE HOW YOU BUILD A NEW ROAD. THIS IS NOT COME IN, SCRAPE THE TOP LAYER OFF, PUT A NEW BLACK LAYER ON THERE AND MOVE ON. UH, ANY CURB AND GUTTER THAT'S IN 'EM WILL BE REPLACED. NEW CURB AND GUTTER. I, UH, ROSELAND, WE JUST FINISHED IT. I [02:10:01] DON'T WANNA RIDE DOWN THE ROAD. I'M GONNA TAKE A LOOK AT THAT JOB WE FINISHED UP ABOUT TWO WEEKS AGO. WE'RE WORKING ON MISSOURI NOW. UM, SO THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE SAYING THOUGH. YOU'RE SAYING YOU'RE GONNA TEAR ALL THAT OLD STUFF OUT THERE. YEAH. PUT ALL INCLUDING BAY, ALL, ALL NEW BAY, ALL NEW SUBGRADE. ALL OF THESE PROJECTS HERE, Y'ALL ARE DOING FOR $20 MILLION. YES, SIR. THAT'S THE, UH, THE, THAT SHOULD BE GOOD. OUR CONTRACT WILL HAVE TO BE REBI AFTER THIS. WE'RE GONNA SEE A LITTLE EXCAVATION. WE GOT PLAYROOM IN THERE. OKAY. YOU GOT, YOU GOTTA BID THESE OUT AS YOU GO ALSO. RIGHT? SOMEBODY'S NOT GONNA GIVE YOU A BID FOR FOUR YEARS. JUST, JUST WONDERING HOW, I MEAN, JUST LOOKING AT IT, I KNOW THINGS CHANGED A BIT. HOW LONG WILL IT TAKE Y'ALL TO COME? THIS IS A FAIRLY LENGTHY STRETCH BECAUSE I'M LOOKING, I HAVEN'T BROKE DOWN. YOU GOT, WELL, WE WANT TO DO PER YEAR. UH, IT BASICALLY HITS CLOSE TO $4 MILLION, TAKE 26 WITH PASSES. WE WANT TO DO EAST, WEST, EAST TEXAS AND DARNELL. THIS IS OUR PLAN FOR 26. OKAY. UH, THEN WE HAVE A PLAN FOR 27. WE HAVE A PLAN FOR 28. NOW THINGS CAN CHANGE WITH SOME OF THE SMALLER STREETS. IF SOMETHING GOES BAD, WE HAVE A LARGE WATER MAIN BREAK AND WE NEED TO MOVE ONE STREET UP OR DOWN, YOU KNOW, WE WILL DO THAT AS LONG AS WE CAN AFFORD IT. SO I, I GUESS WHAT I'M SAYING IS LIKE HOW MANY YEARS IS, IS WE'RE PAYING ON FIVE. OKAY. FIVE YEARS. OKAY. GOTCHA. YEAH. MOST OF ALL THIS, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A FIVE YEAR. OKAY. FIVE TO SIX YEAR CYCLE FOR ALL THIS SUMMER. RIGHT? RIGHT. SO, UM, ANOTHER CLARIFYING QUESTION FOR ME IS I'M GOING TO, I'M GONNA MAKE AN ASSUMPTION YOU CAN CORRECT ME. YES SIR. THAT LOOKS LIKE THE LOWEST PCI ON HERE IS 26. IS IT GOOD TO ASSUME THAT EVERYTHING THAT'S LOWER THAN 26 IS ALREADY BEING ADDRESSED? WELL, NO SIR. WE, WE WILL HAVE STREETS OUT THERE THAT ARE LOWER THAN 26. BUT HOW MANY PEOPLE USE THE STREET? UH, YOU TAKE THAT AREA EXXON'S ABOUT TO TAKE OVER. UH, WOOSTER, WE GOT STREETS IN THERE AT 14. I MEAN, BUT YEAH, WE HAVE AREAS THAT ARE SMALLER STREETS THAT IMPACT VERY FEW PEOPLE. SO WE TRY TO GET A LARGE IMPACT ON NEIGHBORHOODS AS WELL AS BEST BANG FOR OUR BUCK. YEAH. UH, OUR MODES ARE HIGH. SO WE REALLY, REALLY WORK WITH TRYING TO GET STREETS TOGETHER. SO, UH, EAST WEB, JOINT SOUTH, WE'LL CUT A DEAL. HEY, CAN WE PAY FOR ONE MODE? YOU CAN START HERE. YOU CAN DO THAT. DO THAT. SAVE US SOME MONEY THERE. YEAH, I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF, UH, STRATEGIC STRATEGY THAT GOES INTO PUTTING TOGETHER A LIST OF PROJECTS LIKE THIS. I'M JUST, I'M JUST, AGAIN, AGAIN, SO WE KNOW WE GOT, WE GOT A VOTER ON A STREET THAT'S A 10 AND IT'S, AND IT'S BEEN DETERIORATING FOREVER AND THEY'RE NOT GONNA VOTE. 'CAUSE THERE'S STREET NOT ON HERE. RIGHT. WE GOTTA BALANCE THAT. RIGHT. UH, LIKE I SAID BEFORE, 18 YEARS AGO IT WAS STARTED AT ZERO, WENT DOWN THE LIST TILL WE GOT THE $30 MILLION. AND THEN YOU JUST TOLD THE CITY, WE FIXED THE WORST STREETS IN TOWN. THERE WAS NOT A LOT OF LOGIC THAT WENT INTO THAT EXCEPT WE FIXED THE WORST STREETS IN TOWN. SO THIS IS A BALANCE AND WE JUST NEED TO UNDERSTAND WHAT LOGIC WAS USED. I'M NOT DISAGREEING WITH IT BECAUSE I THINK, YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT, UH, YOU KNOW, HOW HOW MANY FOLKS TRAVEL THE ROAD AND THE IMPACT AND ALL THAT, MORE PEOPLE ARE GONNA SEE THE BENEFIT FROM WHAT'S GOING ON HERE. AS LONG AS WE DON'T CONTINUE TO FORGET THE, THE HANDFUL OF FOLKS THAT LIVE ON A STREET THAT DEAD ENDS AND NOBODY ELSE GOES DOWN, THEY STILL DRIVE IT EVERY DAY. RIGHT. AND THEY GOTTA STILL MANEUVER THE POTHOLES EVERY DAY TO GET TO THEIR, TO THEIR DRIVEWAY. SO THERE'S A BALANCE THERE. SO AS LONG AS WE UNDERSTAND HOW THIS WAS PUT TOGETHER, THERE'S SOME ROWS ON HERE THAT ARE FAIR. PEGGY STREET FOR INSTANCE, YOU KNOW, IT'S A 60TH FAIR. YOU WOULD THINK, WELL, HOW'D THAT GET ON HERE? I'M SURE YOU GOT A GOOD REASON. MAYBE IT'S A CONNECTIVITY TO SOMETHING ELSE GOING ON. YOU KNOW, ALL THAT STUFF. AND, AND WE DO THE BEST WE CAN TO A AS WE CAN. IF THE STREET MAKES THE LEFT TO GET NEIGHBORHOODS TO GET AREA, IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO JUMP OVER AND DO THIS BLOCK HERE AND LEAVE ROWDY STREETS AROUND IT. YEAH. SO WE TRY TO TAKE CARE AND GET THE NEIGHBORHOOD THE BEST WE CAN AND, AND ONCE WE GET 'EM RECONSTRUCTED MAINTENANCE IS EASY AND MAINTENANCE IS CHEAP. UH, AS FAR AS RECONSTRUCTION DOLLARS, UM, BASICALLY MY SQUARE YARD OR RECONSTRUCTION DOLLARS ON THIS IS $88 A SQUARE YARD TO THROW A MICRO ON IT, IT COST ME MORE. 50 A SQUARE YARD AND A MICRO IS GONNA GIVE ME SEVEN YEARS OF LIFE. TRY AROUND ANOTHER SEVEN YEARS, GO ANOTHER, YOU KNOW, FOUR 50 SQUARE YARD ON IT. AND I'M GLAD YOU'RE INCLUDING THESE TREES BECAUSE THESE ARE TAXPAYERS AND IF YOU DON'T FIX THEIR ROADS, THEY'RE NOT, THEY'RE NOT GONNA BE HAPPY WITH JUST BA I EVERYONE AND YOU, YOU'VE BEEN REPAIRING STREETS FOR, FOR THE LAST 18 YEARS. SO IT'S NOT LIKE WE'VE BEEN SITTING THERE NOT DOING ANYTHING. SO FOLKS ARE SEEING PROGRESS IN THE CITY AND, AND IT, SO IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT LIKE THIS IS THE FIRST TIME WE'RE DOING IT. IT IT WITH FUNDING. UH, I'VE BEEN WITH MAYTOWN FOR JUST OVER 15 YEARS. UH, WHEN I GOT HERE, MY STREET MAINTENANCE PAVING BUDGET WAS 250,000 BUCKS. THIS IS WHAT FATALITY HAS BEEN WORKING WITH. 250, I COULD PATCH FIVE. THAT ALL I CAN DO MAINTENANCE. MAN, IT CATCHES UP TO YOU. SO, OH, HERE WE ARE. BUT, SO, SO JUST, AND AGAIN, MIKE, [02:15:01] YOU KNOW, ASK A QUESTION. SOMEBODY ASKED A QUESTION. THIS IS JUST FUNDING WHAT'S ALREADY BEEN FUNDED, BUT FUNDING IT FROM GEO YES. BOND TAX PAYER APPROVED FUNDING VERSUS CO CERTIFICATES OF OBLIGATIONS THAT TAXPAYERS DON'T GET A CHANCE TO. RIGHT. SO IT'S CONTINUING TO WORK. WE'VE BEEN SEEING IN THE CITY. RIGHT. YOU KNOW, UP TO NOW. SO HAVE TWO QUESTIONS. ONE IS GONNA SOUND STUPID AND I THINK I KNOW THE ANSWER. SO IF YOU, IF YOU LIST THE STREET LIKE JOON, WE'RE DOING THE WHOLE STREET. WE'RE NOT DOING FLORIDA JOON OR WE'RE NOT DOING FAR OR ANYTHING. WE'RE NOT DOING, WE WILL DO BECAUSE WE HAD DONE THAT IN THE PAST AND, AND THEY DIDN'T MORALE, THEY STOPPED AT THE LAST TWO BLOCKS OF MARRE AND THEY DIDN'T HAPPEN AGAIN FOR SEVEN YEARS. AND THAT WASN'T BECAUSE OF PCI. THAT WAS ANOTHER REASON WHY THEY EVEN FIXED. BUT THEY DID THE WHOLE THING AND THEN THEY STOPPED AND IN TIMES, AND WE REALLY TRY TO DODGE IT, UH, YOU'LL HAVE AN AREA THAT MEETS RECONSTRUCTION, UH, AND WE'LL RECONSTRUCT IT THEN WE'LL PLAN ON PUTTING A MICRO ON THIS AREA NEXT MICRO SEASON BECAUSE THIS PCI IS GOOD. THIS PC I'S IN THE SEVENTIES RATING. IT DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE TO RECONSTRUCT IT. WELL THIS IS LOW. UH, AND WHAT STREET WERE YOU ASKING ABOUT SIR? WELL JUST TAKE ONE. HONEYSUCKLE. WE STARTED HONEYSUCKLE BUT DON'T DO ALL HONEY, THIS IS FROM BAY TO JASMINE. YEAH, YOU HAVE TO, WE TYPICALLY DO GO INDIAN AND WE HAVE TO COMPLETE TWOS AND FROMS LEFT. I'M LOOKING FOR THE PHILOSOPHY OF HOW THE STREET CONSTRUCTIONS GO. SIR. I'M LOOKING FOR THE PHILOSOPHY OF HOW WE APPROACH IT. SO THE PHILOSOPHY IS WE'RE GONNA DO THE WHOLE STREET. THE IDEA IS DO THE WHOLE STREET. THE IDEA IS TO DO WHOLE STREET 90% OF THE TIME BECAUSE YOU'RE GONNA HAVE, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE THE SECTION THAT THIS IS A GOOD SECTION. I DON'T NEED TO PAY $88 A SQUARE YARD TO RECONSTRUCT THIS WHEN IT'S OUTTA 80 PCII CAN RECONSTRUCT THIS, COME BACK NEXT YEAR. PUT A MICRO ON TOP OF THIS TO, TO PROTECT AND PRESERVE WHAT IS GOOD INSTEAD OF RECONSTRUCTING WHAT IS GOOD. I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH ANY OF THE ENGINEERING GOING IN. I'M NOT A ENGINEER. OKAY. I HAVE TO, I HAVE TO TRUST THAT THEY KNOW WHAT THEY'RE DOING, KNOWING THE JOB. BUT I LOOK IS THE BIGGER PICTURE OF WHAT OF, AND JUST THIS BEFORE, OF WHAT I KNOW IS GONNA GET BLASTED COMING DOWN THE PIPE. IF YOU ONLY DO PART OF THE STREET OR HALF A STREET OR WHATEVER. OH YES. DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY MILES, YOU KNOW, HOW MANY MILES THE STREET THIS HAPPENS TO INCLUDE? YOU DON'T HAVE TO GIMME AN ANSWER NOW YOU CAN. I I I CAN'T GIVE YOU MILES. I, I CAN GIVE YOU, WELL I CAN FIGURE IT UP REAL QUICK. I'LL GIVE YOU SQUARE YARD. WE RUN EVERYTHING AT SQUARE YARDS. UH, SOMEBODY IN THE PUBLIC IS GONNA ASK HOW MANY MILES WE'RE GONNA GO TO A ROTARY. GET ATION. THEY'RE GONNA SAY, HOW MANY MILES THE STREET IS THAT? I PROMISE YOU THAT QUESTION. I'LL TAKE THE MONEY ON IT. I GOT A HUNDRED BUCKS RIGHT NOW ON THE TABLE. SO THAT QUESTION WILL GET ASKED. WE'LL FIND, WE'LL FIND THAT BECAUSE IT HAPPENS EVERY TIME. WELL, WE'LL DO, I'M JUST CURIOUS HOW IT IS. WE'LL ADD THE LENGTH OF EVERY PROJECT ON THE PROJECT SHEETS. I DON'T NEED THE BANK. I JUST WANNA KNOW. I MEAN, TELL THEM MY OPTION THAT THIS YOU FAILING. REDO. WE'LL, WE'LL GET THAT. WE'LL GET THAT. AND THAT'S WHY THEY CAN CALL Y'ALL OR EMAIL Y'ALL ME. EVERYBODY'S GONNA HAVE QUESTIONS REGARDLESS. OKAY. ANNUAL RENEWAL OF BASKETBALL. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THAT ONE? GOT 15 MINUTES. LA PARK. WHAT'S NEXT? UH, HERE WE'RE LOOKING AT A BOND FUNDING OF 12 MILLION. AND THAT WOULD, IT LOOKS LIKE, UH, IT'S NOT JUST, IT'S THREE, UH, SUBDIVISIONS. WE GOT LANTER PARK AND THEN SOME ADJACENT, WELL, NO, THESE ARE BAY HARBOR. TWO OTHER, YEAH, TWO OTHER DIFFERENT. UH, AND BAY HARBOR NEEDS VERY GOOD. RIGHT. SO I HAVE AN UPDATE ON THIS PROJECT. UM, IT, IT IS THREE DIFFERENT AREAS THAT WERE KIND OF GROUPED TOGETHER AND DESIGNED ALL TOGETHER. UM, ALL THE STREETS WITHIN LANTERN PARK, UM, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, ALL THE STREETS WERE FAILED PRETTY MUCH. THEN THERE'S TWO STREETS, TWO THE LOOP STREETS IN BAY OAKS HARBOR. UM, SO WHEN BAY OAKS HARBOR WAS, UH, I THINK THEY WERE VOLUNTARILY ANNEXED AND THEY PAID AN ASSESSMENT AT THAT TIME TO GET THEIR STREETS PAVED. UH, SO WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON, YOU KNOW, MAKING PROGRESS ON PAVING ALL THE STREETS. WE'VE FINISHED, UH, SIX OF THE EIGHT LOOP STREETS. SO THIS IS THE FINAL TWO LOOP STREETS THAT NEED TO BE PAVED TO MEET THAT, YOU KNOW, UH, AGREEMENT, THE PEOPLE BEING HAPPY THAT THOSE ROADS ARE HORRIBLE. IT, IT IS BAD. UM, AND THEN THE LAST ONE IS, UH, SOUTH CIRCLE. AND THAT WAS ONE WHERE, [02:20:01] YOU KNOW, AS MR. BEARD MENTIONED, HALF OF THE STREET WAS I THINK RECONSTRUCTED AND THE OTHER HALF WAS NOT. IS ISN'T THAT RIGHT, KEVIN? ON SOUTH CIRCLE. SOUTH CIRCLE, YES. UH, SOUTH CIRCLE. YEARS AGO THEY WENT IN AND RECONSTRUCTED CONCRETE. HALF THE STREET, THEY LEFT THE OTHER HALF, NOT RECONSTRUCTION. RIGHT. UM, SO THIS, I I'M BEING HONEST, IT WAS A FORMER ENGINEERING GROUP THAT WAS HERE YEARS AND YEARS AGO. THE PROJECT STARTED. RIGHT. WHAT I WOULD DO, SO THIS, THIS WILL COMPLETE THE RECONSTRUCTION OF THAT WHOLE STREET. UM, AND THESE ARE ALL RECONSTRUCTION COSTS? YES. UH, THIS IS ALL THE CONSTRUCTION COSTS NOW. UM, WE HAVE BASICALLY FINISHED DESIGN WORK ON THIS. SO IT'S READY TO BE BID OUT. UM, SINCE WE PRODUCED THIS, WE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO SUBMIT FOR A GRANT WITH HARRIS COUNTY, UH, THEIR, UH, PRECINCT TWO PARTNERSHIP PROGRAM, WHICH OFFERS A 50%, UH, GRANT TO, TO A PROJECT. AND SO THIS PROJECT WAS APPROVED, UH, THROUGH HARRIS COUNTY TO GET A GRANT. AND SO WE, WE DID GET, UM, I THINK IT WAS $4.2 MILLION. UM, SO THAT PROBABLY NEEDS TO BE, TO BE NOTED ON HERE THAT, SO PROJECTS HERE FOR, FOR THIS PROJECT FOR 4 MILLION MINUS 4.2 IS WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT NOW. CORRECT. IS THAT JUST FOR LEONARD PARK SPECIFICALLY? UH, IT'S FOR ALL THREE. ALL THREE. THAT'S GOOD TO KNOW. NOW THE, THE, SO THE COUNTY DIDN'T LET US PUT AS MUCH CONTINGENCY. THIS 12 MILLION WAS KIND OF A ESTIMATE WITH A LOT OF CONTINGENCY. UH, THE COUNTY, YOU KNOW, KIND OF TOOK OUT THAT CONTINGENCY AND GAVE US HALF OF THE BASE ESTIMATE. SO THAT, THAT'S WHY THERE'S A LITTLE DIFFERENCE THERE. AND IT'S NOT 50%. SO WE, YOU MADE THE GRANT APPLICATION THAT YOU SAID YES, IT'S BEEN APPROVED. SO WE'RE GONNA ASSUME NUMBER'S GONNA GET CHANGED FROM HERE TO SHOW THE GRANT. ARE WE GONNA GO WITH THAT IN CASE WE DON'T GET IT? NO, I'M JUST ASKING. WE'VE BEEN, UH, WE GOT THE GRANT ISSUED. THE GRANT, THE GRANT, THE GRANT'S BEEN APPROVED, DON'T ADJUST THIS JUSTICE. SO WE WILL ADJUST THIS NUMBER. THAT, THAT WAS SOMETHING VERY RECENTLY THAT HAPPENED. SO THAT NUMBER'S GOING TO GO DOWN TO LIKE 7 MILLION OR SO. YEAH, PROBABLY. YOU KNOW, THE SIX, 6 MILLION, SOMETHING LIKE THAT. SO WITH THE BAY OAKS HARBOR DRIVE, WITH THE RECONSTRUCTION OF THOSE TWO STREETS, THERE WAS, DURING THE ANNEXATION PROCESS, I GUESS WAS THE, WAS THE PLAN ALWAYS TO GET THE MONEY FROM A BOND TO DO THAT? NO. NO. NOT THAT, THAT, THAT HAPPENED MANY YEARS AGO. I KNOW WHEN I STARTED HERE ALMOST 10 YEARS AGO, WE WERE WORKING ON, UH, TRYING TO DO THE FIRST FIRST STREET. SO IT'S IT'S BEEN A LONG PROCESS. YEAH. AS PART OF THE ANNEX DEAL, THEY AGREED TO, THAT WAS A PRIVATE SUBDIVISION OVER THERE, IF YOU KNOW THAT AREA GOING WHERE? OLD THOMPSON, THEY CAMPED IN, THAT'S THAT SUBDIVISION ON THE EDGE. AND THEY CAME AND WANTED VOLUNTARY ANNEXATION, WHICH WAS KIND OF A BIG DEAL BECAUSE QUITE FRANKLY, I THINK THE DEVELOPER KIND OF LET THEM HOLD AND HANG UP THINKING THEY, THE, THE CITY ORGANIZATION WASN'T GETTING THE DUDES AND WHATEVER THE CITY AGREED TO DO THAT. AND I THINK WE PUT IN WATER SEWER. RIGHT. AND THEY WERE GONNA PAY AN ASSESSMENT FEE FOR ROAD RECONSTRUCTION. I DON'T KNOW IF THEY DIDN'T PAY THAT ALL ALONG ANNUALLY OR IF THEY'RE STILL PAYING IT, BUT THAT WAS, THEY DID PAY IT AND IT WAS SUPPOSED TO GO TO ROAD DONE IF YOU HAD BEEN IN THAT PLACE BEFORE. THEY DIDN'T REALLY HAVE A ROAD. IT, IT'S, YEAH, VERY, VERY POOR. I ONLY KNOW THAT BECAUSE I DRIVE MY BOAT DOWN THERE. RIGHT. YESTERDAY THEY PAID AN ASSESSMENT FOR THE MAIN ROAD GOING THROUGH THERE. UH, DID THEY PAY THE INVESTMENT FOR THE MAIN ROAD? I'M NOT SURE IF IT'S PAID OFF OR NOT. PAID TO HAVE FIRE. THEY PAID TO HAVE FIRE HYDRANTS AND WATER INSURERS PUT IN. BUT THE, BUT THE ROADS IN SIDE BAY HARBOR, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WAS A ONE TIME ASSESSMENT OR IF THAT WAS BEING PAID ALL ALONG. DO DO, I GUESS THE QUESTION IS THERE, IS THERE FUNDS LEFT IN THAT ASSESSMENT? UH, THE ONLY THING THAT THEY PAID FOR ASSESSMENT WITH THE MAIN DRIVE, THEY DID NOT PAY FOR ANY LOOSE DRINKS. UH UH, ALSO IT'S ABOUT 27 LANE MILES OF ASPHALT STREET. OKAY. THANK YOU. TOTAL. SO THE WHOLE PROJECT, SO THAT'S LANE MILE IS ONE MILE, 10 FOOT LONG, 10 FOOT WIDE. YEAH. ONE ONE MILE OF ONE LANE. OKAY. HEY, SO WE'RE GETTING CLOSE THE END OF OUR TIME. WE NEED A FEW MINUTES TO COME TOGETHER. UH, I WANT TO POINT OUT THAT THIS TIME TOOK US THROUGH ABOUT WHAT THREE OR FOUR PROJECTS. THERE'S ABOUT [02:25:01] 14 LEFT OR SO STREETS, DRAINAGE, SIDEWALKS. WHAT I WANT TO ASK YOU IS IF, DID YOU FEEL THIS WAS VALUABLE AS FAR AS GOING THROUGH THESE PROJECTS AND THIS KIND OF DETAIL BETTER UNDERSTAND, HELP YOU THEN PRIORITIZE WHEN WE GET DOWN THE ROAD AND WE'RE TRYING TO SAY WHAT WE BELIEVE IS GONNA IMPACT THE CITY THE MOST. UM, EVEN THOUGH IT'S ALL NEEDED, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO AT SOME POINT START A LIST. RIGHT? SO, UH, IF, IF THIS WAS HELPFUL FOR YOU AND, AND WE'RE GONNA CONTINUE DOING THIS, WE'RE AGAIN, WE'RE GOING, WE'RE GONNA TAKE A FEW MORE, FEW MORE MEETINGS TO GO THROUGH IT. SO THANKS FOR ALL THE QUESTIONS. THAT'S THE INTENT IS THAT WE, WE PULL ALL THIS OUT. I KNOW THE CITIES, THERE'S A LOT OF MOVING PARTS, UH, TO ALL THIS. AND, AND WE'LL GET SOME MORE DETAIL PUT IN THESE BOOKS AND SOME NUMBERS ADJUSTED AND SOME SCOPE WORK. SO, UH, LET ME GET THE OTHER FOLKS IN HERE AND WE'LL WRAP UP, UH, RESPECT. OKAY. OKAY. I JUST GOT A MESSAGE HERE. ALRIGHT. OKAY. DO I SEE YOU IN NOT BUILDING, DO YOU I DO LIVE SOCCER STANDS. SOCCER. SO T-BALL? YES, I SOME SOCCER GAMES. UM, MY KIDS DON'T, MY, UH, COUSIN'S KID PLAYED SOCCER LAST YEAR. GRADE GRANDDAUGHTER PLAYING SOCCER THERE. NO SISTERS. I DO HAVE TWO SISTERS BECAUSE I FELT BAD BECAUSE I DIDN'T SAY ANYTHING BECAUSE I DIDN'T SAY A WORD, BUT THINK I DIDN'T SAY ANYTHING TO, BUT I DO HAVE A THIRD GRADER AND THE PRE-K KINDERGARTEN, SO MY KIDS ARE, BUT IF YOU'RE AT THE T-BALL GANG, I'M THERE THREE DAYS. NO, MY, MY EL GRANDSON IS, IS, UH, SIXTH GRADE ALREADY GOING TO SEVENTH. SO NORTH, NORTH, SOUTH OR SOCCER? UH, WELL, TWO, TWO ARE NORTH. TOUR ARE SOUTH. YEAH, I HIT BOTH NORTH SOUTH. ALRIGHT. DID WE GET EVERYBODY BACK? DID WE GET EVERYBODY BACK? ALRIGHT FOLKS, WE'RE, WE'RE GONNA WRAP UP TODAY. SO I DIDN'T GET TO SPEND AS MUCH TIME OVER THERE AS I DID IN HERE. I THINK THEY MADE SOME PRETTY GOOD PROGRESS OVER THERE. LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING WHAT THE, THE QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS AND MAYBE ANY FOLLOW UP MIGHT BE FROM THE GROUP OVER THERE. I CAN TELL YOU THIS GROUP IN HERE, UH, HAD A LOT OF GOOD QUESTIONS. UH, AND THERE WAS A LOT OF GOOD INFORMATION PRESENTED AND, UM, I, I THINK THE, THE FOLKS THAT WERE IN HERE FELT THAT IT WAS VALUABLE TO GO THROUGH ALL THESE QUESTIONS AND GET THE INFORMATION. I THINK THE CITY, YOU KNOW, IT, THERE'S SOME THINGS MOVING RIGHT NOW BECAUSE THE CITY'S NOT DOING ANYTHING. THEY'RE DOING STUFF. THEY'RE FIXING ROADS, THEY'RE DOING ALL KINDS OF STUFF. SO WE'RE GONNA GET SOME, SOME THINGS, UH, UH, TWEAKED A LITTLE BIT. BUT THE POINT WAS TO GET INTIMATE WITH EACH ONE OF THESE PROJECTS. A SIMPLE STREET RECONSTRUCTION PROJECT. JOHN, WHAT DID WE LEARN TODAY? A LOT. THEY COST A LOT OF MONEY, RIGHT? THEY COST A LOT OF MONEY. WE ALSO LEARNED THAT ONE STREET'S NOT EQUAL TO ANOTHER STREET, RIGHT? AND SO ONE COULD COST X AND ONE COULD COST TWO X AND THERE'S A REASON IT'S TWO X. AND WHEN THIS GROUP KNOWS WHY IT'S TWO X, WE CAN THEN FIGURE OUT HOW TO MOVE FORWARD AND COMMUNICATE THAT INFORMATION LATER IF IT HAPPENS TO BE ONE OF THE PROJECTS THAT'S RECOMMENDED. SO THAT WAS THE PURPOSE OF BREAKING OUT INTO THESE, UH, TWO GROUPS AND GET INTO MORE DETAIL. I CAN TELL YOU THE STREETS GROUP WENT THROUGH ABOUT THREE OR FOUR PROJECTS. THEY'VE GOT ABOUT 14 LEFT. OKAY. SO THERE'S, THERE'S A LOT OF CONVERSATIONS, GOOD QUESTIONS, GOOD ANSWERS, GOOD UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT, WHAT'S GOING ON IN OUR CITY AND WHAT THE NEEDS ARE AND HOW THE CITY'S BEEN HANDLING NEEDS AND, AND, AND WHAT THE PLAN IS TO HANDLE THESE NEEDS MOVING FORWARD. SO, UH, THANK YOU FOR YOUR [02:30:01] TIME AND, UH, I KNOW THE FOLKS OVER THERE, DID YOU GET THROUGH ALL THE, WE GOT THROUGH ALL THE PARK, ALL THE PARK, ALL THE PARKS AND EVERYTHING, OKAY? YES. FURTHER QUESTIONS PERHAPS ABOUT THE, THE LIBRARY. UH, PERHAPS MAKE A VISIT OR CONSULT FURTHER WITH THE CITY STAFF ON THAT. AND, UH, SO WE, WE DIDN'T, UH, YOU KNOW, WE GOT QUITE A BIT OF DEPTH. GOOD. I LOOK FORWARD TO GETTING, UH, COLLECTING, UH, QUESTIONS ANSWERED, QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS THAT WERE GIVEN TODAY AND THE FEEDBACK FROM THE GROUP OVER THERE. UH, I'M GONNA RECOMMEND, UH, I DON'T KNOW ABOUT YOU GUYS, BUT I'M GONNA RECOMMEND THAT WE DO NOT MEET NEXT WEEK. THAT'S GOOD BECAUSE PNZ IS NEXT WEEK. WELL, PNZ, THERE'S GRADUATIONS NEXT WEEK. THERE'S ALL KINDS OF THINGS HAPPENING. PLUS I THINK IT, IT'LL ALSO GIVE ME AND THE CITY STAFF A LITTLE TIME TO ASSIMILATE ALL THIS INFORMATION, FIGURE OUT WHAT WE GOT IN FRONT OF US, WHAT WE'RE GONNA BRING BACK FOR THE NEXT MEETING. I'M GONNA RECOMMEND, UH, THAT THE TUES IN TWO WEEKS IS THE TUESDAY RIGHT AFTER MEMORIAL DAY. IS THAT 27TH? IS THAT, IS THAT THE, THAT'S TUESDAY AFTER MEMORIAL DAY, I THINK, RIGHT? MEMORIAL DAY IS THE 26TH. YEAH. SO IS THAT OKAY FOR EVERYBODY? I, NO, I WOULD NOT BE HERE. OKAY, SO THE, THAT'LL BE TWO WEEKS. WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO ALSO WITH CITY STAFF IS NOT ONLY ASSIMILATE ALL THIS INFORMATION THAT, THAT WE COLLECTED, BUT ALSO PLAN THE NEXT MEETING OR THE MEETING AFTER TO INCLUDE SOME TOURS, RIGHT? WHETHER IT'S, UH, A PARK AREA, WHETHER IT'S A STREET THAT, THAT, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU BOUNCE YOUR HEAD ON THE TOP OF THE ROOF, YOU'LL KNOW. BUT, UH, ANYTHING THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE, SHOOT A NOTE. I THINK WE'VE GOT A COMMON EMAIL THING GOING AND, UH, SHOOT A NOTE AND, AND SAY, HEY, I'D LIKE, I'D LIKE TO SEE THIS PROJECT OR WHERE THIS AREA IS OR WHATEVER. AND WE'LL START TRYING TO SCHEDULE SOME TOURS DOWN THE ROAD A LITTLE BIT. UH, BUT I THINK WE'RE GONNA NEED ANOTHER SESSION AND WE MAY TAKE THE GROUP THAT WAS OVER THERE AND KIND OF GIVE YOU SOME STREETS TO TAKE A LOOK AT AS WELL AND GET INTO THE, IN, IN THE DETAILS. LIKE, LIKE THE GROUP IN HERE DID, UH, THERE'S QUITE A FEW OF THOSE. THE, WE KNOW STREETS, UH, SIDEWALKS AND DRAINAGE ARE A LOT OF DOLLARS IN THIS WHOLE PACKAGE. UM, UH, I DON'T, I DON'T BELIEVE RIGHT NOW THEY DOMINATE EVERYTHING BECAUSE I THINK EVERYTHING SHOULD BE CONSIDERED EQUALLY UNTIL WE GET TO THE POINT WHERE WE GO, WHAT, WHAT DO WE THINK IS GONNA MAKE THE MOST IMPACT AND HAS THE MOST SUCCESS OF US BEING ABLE TO EXPLAIN TO THE CITIZENS WHY THIS IS NEEDED AND, AND GET THEM TO VOTE ON IT. SO WHY DON'T WE HAVE TO MEET ON TUESDAY SINCE MEMORIAL WEEKEND? CAN WE JUST DO LIKE A WEDNESDAY? SO I THINK AT, I THINK EARLY ON, I KNOW I WAS ASKED WHAT DAYS WORKED FOR ME, AND I THINK EVERYBODY GAVE THEIR ANSWERS. AND APPARENTLY TUESDAY SEEMED TO BE THE DAY THAT WORKED FOR MOST PEOPLE. BUT I, BUT CAN WE ASK IF, SEE WEDNESDAY? I MEAN, I HAD FIRST TO MISS TWO WEEKS. YEAH, NO, NO, I, I'M TALKING ABOUT, I'M TALKING, WE NEED TWO WEEKS BREAK. I CAN TELL YOU THAT FROM LAST TUESDAY TO THIS TUESDAY, I HAD ABOUT A HALF A DAY TO WORK ON STUFF. OKAY. I MEAN, WE'RE ALL BUSY. GOT STUFF GOING ON. I THINK TWO WEEKS LET'S US TAKE THE INFORMATION WE HAVE, PUT IT ALL TOGETHER, GIVE THE CITY SOME TIME TO REDO SOME OF THESE DESCRIPTIONS, ADD MORE SCOPES OF WORK TO THE PROJECTS THAT DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING, CORRECT SOME NUMBERS THAT NEED TO BE ADJUSTED. UH, AND MAYBE NEXT TIME WE COME BACK WITH, UH, UH, SOME MORE UPTODATE INFORMATION, UH, ALONG WITH THE CONVERSATION THAT WE HAD TONIGHT. UH, I CAN TELL YOU THAT, UM, NEXT WEEK IS JUST FLAT OUT GRADUATIONS. I, I, I CAN'T BE HERE NEXT WEEK. YOU CAN CERTAINLY MEET WITHOUT ME, BUT I'LL BE AT LEE COLLEGE FOR IMPACT AND STEWARD CAREER GRADUATIONS, AND I KNOW ALL THE OTHER THREE HIGH SCHOOLS HAVE GRADUATIONS NEXT WEEK AS WELL. SO FOR ME, IT'S JUST ABOUT HAVING A LITTLE TIME TO STEP BACK, BREATHE A LITTLE BIT, PULL ALL THIS STUFF TOGETHER, AND THEN COME BACK PREPARED IN TWO WEEKS TO HIT IT FRESH AND HOPEFULLY, WE'LL, WE WILL HAVE A NEW PACKAGE OF INFORMATION FOR EVERYBODY BEFORE THAT TUESDAY. FOR WHAT DAY? EVERY NOW MEETING. WELL, THAT WOULD BE THE 27TH I THINK. IF THAT'S TWO WEEKS FROM TODAY. DOES THAT WORK FOR THE CITY FOLKS? EVERYBODY, EVERY. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.