[ CITY OF BAYTOWN NOTICE OF MEETING CITY COUNCIL WORK SESSION THURSDAY, MARCH 27, 2025 5:00 P.M. COUNCIL CHAMBER, CITY HALL 2401 MARKET STREET, BAYTOWN, TEXAS 77520 AGENDA CALL TO ORDER AND ANNOUNCEMENT OF QUORUM ]
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I NOW CALL TO ORDER THE CITY COUNCIL WORK SESSION THURSDAY, MARCH 27TH, 2025, IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBER AT CITY HALL BAYTOWN, TEXAS 7 7 5 2 OH.
AN ANNOUNCEMENT OF FORM AT 5:03 PM IT'LL START OFF
[1. CITIZEN COMMENTS Notice is hereby given that in accordance with the Texas Open Meetings Act, Texas Government Code, Chapter 551, prohibits the City Council from discussing, deliberating, or considering, subjects for which public notice has not been given on the agenda. Issues that cannot be referred to the administration for action may be placed on the agenda of a future City Council Session.]
WITH CITIZEN COMMENT.THE PURPOSE OF CITIZEN COMMENT IS TO GIVE ALL INTERESTED CITIZENS THE RIGHT TO EXPRESS THEIR VIEWS.
EVERYONE DESIRING TO SPEAK SHOULD HAVE EITHER SIGNED THE APPROPRIATE LIST OF THE FOYER OR EMAILED THE CITY CLERK PRIOR TO THE POSTER TIME OF THIS MEETING.
EACH CITIZEN SHALL GIVE HIS OR HER NAME AND ADDRESS IN ORDER TO PROVIDE A PROPER RECORD OF THESE COMMENTS.
THE RULES ALLOW EACH PERSON ONE MINUTE TO SPEAK.
A CITIZEN MAY PASS HIS OR HER TIME TO ANOTHER PERSON WHO HAS REQUESTED TO ADDRESS COUNSEL.
HOWEVER, NO CITIZEN'S REMARKS SHALL EXCEED THREE MINUTES IN TOTAL.
EITHER THE ONE MINUTE OR THE THREE MINUTE LIMIT MAY BE EXTENDED BY THE MAJORITY OF COUNCIL VOTE.
I ENCOURAGE EVERYONE TO BE AS BRIEF AND TO THE POINT AS POSSIBLE.
PLEASE KEEP IN MIND COUNCIL CANNOT DISCUSS OR DELIBERATE ON ITEMS FOR WHICH PUBLIC NOTICE HAS NOT BEEN GIVEN ON THIS AGENDA.
WE HAVE ONE PERSON SIGNED UP, MR. JOHN ISAACS.
IF YOU DON'T MIND, STATE YOUR ADDRESS, PLEASE FOR RECORD.
JOHN ISAACS, 54 10 B BOULEVARD IN BAYTOWN.
UM, I'M GONNA BE SHORT TO THE POINT WHILE I AGREED WITH THE DECISION WE MADE, OR Y'ALL MADE LAST JULY, OH, I THINK IT WAS JULY, OR THE GOLF COURSE.
I THINK IT'S TIME TO FACE THE FACTS.
I BELIEVE Y'ALL SH WE HAVE TO TERMINATE IT AS A GOLF COURSE.
GET RID OF THE, UH, ALL THE OUTGO ON THE GOLF COURSE.
OKAY? THERE'S NO SENSE PAYING SOMEBODY TO DO SOMETHING THAT THE PEOPLE OBVIOUSLY DON'T WANT BECAUSE THERE'S NOT ENOUGH PLAY.
WE NEED A POLICE, WE TALKED ABOUT LAST AT THE END OF DEAL, WHERE THEY POLICE OUTREACH WITHIN THE WATER PARK TO GET THE KIDS USED TO POLICE OFFICER IN A NON-POLICE ENVIRONMENT.
OKAY? SO, I MEAN, IT WAS DISCUSSED, UH, WITH, I, I TALKED TO THEM AT THE MEETING MONDAY, TUESDAY.
OH, YOU GOTTA DO THERE BEING NO ONE ELSE DESIRING TO SPEAK.
THIS CONCLUDES THE CITIZEN COMMENT PORTION OF THE AGENDA TWO A, DISCUSS
[a. Discuss the preparations for Pirates Bay Waterpark for the 2025 season.]
THE PREPARATIONS FOR POWERS BAY WATER PARK FOR THE 2025 SEASON.MR. HATCH AND CLIFFORD'S NOT HERE.
I'M NOT MR. HATCH
UH, SO WE HAVE MR. JOHNNY BLEVINS HERE, UM, WITH, UH, P TWO THREE CONSULTING.
THEY ARE OUR OPERATING FIRM OUT AT PIRATE OF BAY, AND HE IS HERE TO PROVIDE AN UPDATE AND AN OVERVIEW FOR WHAT'S GOING ON OUT THERE.
I WANTED TO GIVE YOU A QUICK UPDATE ON WHAT'S GOING ON AT PIRATES BAY AND, UM, WANT TO STEP REAL QUICK AND SAY, I, I COMPLETELY AGREE.
I LOVE HAVING POLICE OFFICERS OUT.
UH, ANYTIME WE HAVE A UNIFORMED POLICE OFFICER WALK AROUND THE PARK, WE'D LOVE TO FEED YOU LUNCH.
UH, ALWAYS DO THAT AT THE PARK AND, AND JUST INTERACT WITH THE COMMUNITY.
WE DO THAT AT A LOT OF OUR PARKS.
SO, UM, GIVE YOU A QUICK UPDATE OF WHAT WE'RE DOING SO FAR, SO YOU CAN KIND OF HAVE AN IDEA.
AND I DON'T KNOW IF I AM CLICKING.
YES, I AM, UM, WITH THE TRANSITION, I WANT YOU GUYS TO BE AS UPDATED AS, AS YOU POSSIBLY WANT BE.
AND THEN ALSO, UH, ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
SO I'LL GO THROUGH IT REALLY QUICKLY, BUT LEAVE SOME TIME FOR QUESTIONS.
UH, WE BROUGHT IN A TEAM OF OPERATORS FROM AROUND SOME OF OUR DIFFERENT PARKS AND AROUND IN THE INDUSTRY.
UH, I'M EXCITED TO HAVE THEM HERE.
I WON'T GO THROUGH INTRODUCING ALL OF THEM.
UH, WE DO HAVE ONE OF OUR LOCALS HERE, CAITLYN PINKSTON, WHO HAS GROWN UP IN THIS AREA, AND SHE'S STILL WORKING WITH US IN THE GUEST SERVICE DEPARTMENT.
SUPER HAPPY TO HAVE HER DOING A GREAT JOB.
WE'VE MOVED A COUPLE OF FOLKS FROM ONE OF OUR PEOPLE FROM OUR CANTON, TEXAS PARK, ONE FROM OUR TEXARKANA PARK, AND THEN SOME FROM AROUND OUR GM, PAVLOVA SHEFFIELD, WHO IS IN THE AUDIENCE AS WELL.
UH, CAME FROM OUR EL PASO PARKS AND WAS PREVIOUSLY RUNNING FOUR, UH, WATER PARKS FOR THE CITY OF EL PASO, AND HAS WORKED WITH US FOR SEVERAL YEARS.
AND, AND SHE HAS MOVED DOWN HERE TO BE, UH, HERE TO HELP WITH THIS, UH, PROJECT.
UM, THE ISSUES THAT WE SAW WHEN WE WERE WORKING ON THE PROJECT LAST YEAR, UH, SOME OF THE THINGS WE'RE STAFFING AND PAYROLL, UH, FOOD AND BEVERAGE OPERATIONS NEEDED.
UH, AND THEN OVERSIGHT OF THE MANAGEMENT AND ENGAGEMENT, ENGAGEMENT
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WITH THE STAFF THAT'S OUT THERE, OUR SEASONAL STAFF, AND THEN JUST CASH HANDLING PROCEDURES.HOW DO WE DO THAT AND HOW DO WE DO THAT WELL? AND SO THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT WE'RE ADDRESSING.
SOME OF THE INITIATIVES WE HAVE FOR THAT.
UM, WE REALLY HAVE A HIGH LEVEL OF CUSTOMER SERVICE TRAINING THAT WE ARE PUTTING OUR STAFF THROUGH.
UM, WE'RE VERY EXCITED ABOUT THE STAFF THAT ARE COMING OUT TO APPLY THE INTERVIEWS THAT WE HAVE.
AND IF ANY OF YOU EVER WANT TO BE AT ONE OF OUR INTERVIEWS, WE DO, UH, GROUP INTERVIEWS.
WE BRING THEM IN AS SOMETHING WE'VE DEVELOPED OVER THE YEARS.
WE BRING IN 15 OR 18 AT A TIME, UH, DO INTERACTIVE ACTIVITIES WITH THEM.
WE'RE, WE'RE HIRING OUR, MOSTLY OUR TEENS FROM AROUND THE AREA.
AND THEY DON'T COME IN WITH A RESUME.
THEY COME IN WITH A PERSONALITY.
WE NEED TO KNOW THAT PERSONALITY, SEE HOW THEY'RE GONNA BE SUCCESSFUL AND WHAT PIECE OF THE, THE PARK WOULD BE BETTER, UH, AT THAT.
AND WE DO THAT BY DOING INTERACTIVE GAMES AND HAVING SOME FUN WITH THEM FOR ABOUT AN HOUR, AND THEN FIGURE OUT WHERE THAT WOULD WORK FOR THEM.
SO IF ANY OF YOU WANNA BE AT ONE OF THOSE, PLEASE LET US KNOW.
UM, WE ARE EXPANDING FOOD AND BEVERAGE AND UPGRADING THAT IN A BIG WAY.
WE'RE BRINGING IN QUITE A BIT OF EQUIPMENT AND, AND CHANGING THE MENU.
AND EVEN AT CALYPSO, UH, WE ARE INTRODUCING SOME SMALL MENU ITEMS OVER THERE, AND MOVING ONE OF THE WINDOWS THAT WAS STATIONARY, MAKING IT A SERVING WINDOW, AND HAVING EVEN SOME ITEMS OVER THERE SO WE CAN INTRODUCE SMALLER BIRTHDAY PARTIES AND THINGS LIKE THAT FOR, UH, THAT SIDE OF THE COMMUNITY AS WELL.
WE HAVE PREMIUM GUEST EXPERIENCES THAT WE'RE BRINGING.
WE'VE GOT A LOT MORE SHADE AND PRIVATE CABANAS COMING IN THAT WE WANT TO, UH, WE HAVE PRIVATE, UH, CABANA SERVERS THAT WILL BE TAKING CARE OF PEOPLE OVER THERE, A NEW ENGAGEMENT THERE.
AND THEN WE DEFINITELY ARE WORKING A LOT WITH THE CITY, THE, YOU KNOW, COMMUNITIES AROUND THE BUSINESSES AROUND ALSO, AND OFFERING THEM OPPORTUNITIES FOR, UH, GROUPS AND EVENTS AND PRIVATE SEASON PASS, UH, PURCHASES AND THINGS LIKE THAT AS WELL.
SO WORKING WITH THAT COMMUNITY FOR PRICING IN CASE YOU GUYS ARE INTERESTED.
UM, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE SAY, OH, A, A CONSULTANT'S COMING IN OR MANAGEMENT GROUP'S COMING TO COME IN AND IT'S ALL THEY'RE GONNA DO IS RAISE PRICES.
UH, WE GET APPROPRIATE PRICING, UH, FOR A MARKET WHENEVER WE DO THAT.
AND SO OUR PRICING IS AT THE GATE, IT'S 35 99.
LAST YEAR IT WAS A RANGE BETWEEN 30 AND 40.
WE'RE NOT GOING IN THAT 40 RANGE LIKE IT WAS LAST YEAR.
UH, SO WE ACTUALLY HAVE COME DOWN ON THAT PRICING, UH, UNDER 42 INCH HAS AN ACTUAL PRICING OF 27.99, WHICH WAS NOT AVAILABLE AT ALL BEFORE.
AND SO WE HAVE A, A UNDER 42 INCH PRICING THERE TO AND UNDER A FREE WITH A SWIM DIAPER.
AND HOW THAT WORKS IS YOU CAN GET ONLINE AND ON, JUST LIKE BUYING AN AIRLINE TICKET TWO OR THREE WEEKS IN ADVANCE, IF YOU BOUGHT A TICKET FOR A MONDAY, THREE WEEKS FROM NOW, YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO GET A LITTLE BIT CHEAPER PRICE SO YOU CAN BUDGET AND PLAN A QUARTERLY FOR THAT AS WELL.
UH, ALSO WE BROUGHT DOWN THE SEASON PASS PRICE ON, ON SEASON PASSES AS WELL.
THEY WERE ONE 15 AND NOW THEY'RE 95.
AND JUST SO YOU GUYS HAVE AN IDEA, LAST YEAR, UM, THE SEASON PASS TOTAL SALES WAS ABOUT 2,500 SEASON PASSES FOR THE PARK.
AND RIGHT NOW WE'RE PUSHING AT 2000 SEASON PASSES ALREADY, AND WE JUST STARTED IN JANUARY.
SO WE'LL, WE'LL EDGE UP ON THAT AND PASS THAT.
MY GOAL IS TO BE IN THE FORWARD 5,000 RANGE THIS YEAR.
UM, I FEEL LIKE WE SHOULD BE DOING 13 TO 14,000 SEASON PASSES, BUT WE'LL BE DOING THAT OVER THE NEXT FEW YEARS.
YOU'LL, YOU'LL SEE THAT HAPPENING.
UM, CALYPSO COVE MONDAY THROUGH THURSDAY, A $6 PRICE FRIDAY, SATURDAY, AND SUNDAY, AN $8 PRICE.
AND WE'RE DOING SOME, SOME FUN THINGS OVER THERE TOO.
SO IT'S NOT JUST PIRATES BAY AND JUST LEAVE THIS LIKE IT IS.
WE WANT BOTH TO BE OPERATED AS A APPROPRIATE WATERPARK FOR WHAT'S OVER AT EACH ONE.
UM, WE'VE INTRODUCED OUR MANAGEMENT TEAM.
WE HAVE, UM, UPDATED ACCOMMODATIONS.
WE'VE GOT SOME CABANAS COMING IN.
WE'VE GOT A LOT OF NEW FURNITURE COMING IN.
UM, WE PUT IN A NEW POINT OF SALE.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS A CHALLENGE, BUYING TICKETS, SEASON PASSES EVENTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT WAS WHEN YOU'D GO TO THE WEBSITE, THEN YOU'D CLICK AND YOU'D GO TO A CITY WEBSITE THAT LOOKED COMPLETELY DIFFERENT FROM THE WATERPARK.
YOU DIDN'T KNOW IF YOU WERE EVEN ON THE WATERPARK.
THIS PROCESS MAKES IT A LOT SMOOTHER.
WE'RE ABLE TO BE A LOT MORE EFFECTIVE, UH, WITH THAT.
UM, REPLACING EQUIPMENT THAT NEEDS REPLACING.
WE'VE REPLACED SEVERAL PUMPS, MOTORS, UH, THINGS LIKE THAT ALREADY JUST TO MAKE THINGS RUN BETTER AND, AND JUST SMOOTHER.
UM, AND THEN OUR RECRUITING EFFORTS ARE, ARE GOING REALLY WELL.
WE'VE ALSO UPDATED THE WEBSITE, EASIER TO NAVIGATE.
IT LOOKS A LOT MORE FRIENDLY, UH, THINGS LIKE THAT.
AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE OUR SOCIAL MEDIA PLATFORMS GOING.
I DON'T KNOW IF ANY OF YOU GUYS PARTICIPATED AND GUIDED YOUR SWIMSUIT WHILE IT WAS SNOWING AND SENT A PICTURE IN.
IF YOU DID, I APPRECIATE THAT.
WE DID HAVE A LOT OF FOLKS THAT DID THAT AND JUST INTERACTED.
WHY WOULD THEY WANT A SEASON PASS OR WHY COULD THEY GET A SEASON PASS? AND WE GAVE AWAY A FEW SEASON PASSES, UH, SENDING IN A FUN PICTURE OF THEMSELVES MAKING A SNOWMAN AND BEING READY FOR THE SUMMER, UH, IN THE SNOW.
UH, WE WANT TO INTERACT WITH THE FOLKS OUR A NEW INITIATIVE.
I JUST WANNA THROW OUT THERE AND ASK YOUR OPINION.
IT IS NOT SOMETHING THAT WE ARE PUSHING HEAVILY FOR OR AGAINST.
JUST, UH, THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY IF WE WANT TO HAVE ANY BEER
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OR WINE CELLS IN SPECIFIC AREAS OF THE PARK, SPECIFICALLY CABANAS.UH, AND ALSO WE MAY HAVE THE, UM, NINJA COURSE POOL AT SOMETIMES BEING AN ADULT ONLY POOL.
SO THERE'S A LITTLE BIT MORE OF AN AREA TO BE, UM, CALM AND NOT AS SPLASHING AND ALL THOSE KIND OF THINGS.
UM, IF YOU WOULD BE INTERESTED IN THAT, WE WOULD SHOW YOU HOW WE WOULD DO THAT RESPECTFULLY AND, AND PROPERLY, BUT ALSO GO THROUGH THE PROCESS OF GETTING THAT INFORMATION.
WE JUST WOULDN'T, IF THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT YOU GUYS WOULD EVEN BE INTERESTED IN ENTERTAINING.
SO, UM, WITH THAT, THAT'S A VERY QUICK OVERVIEW AND I'D LOVE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
COUNCIL MEMBER GRAHAM, THANK YOU MR. BLEVINS FOR SHARING ALL THAT.
UM, I LOVE YOUR CONFIDENCE, YOUR BACKGROUND, AND JUST ALL THE THINGS THAT YOU'VE SHOWN US.
PIRATES BAY WAS DEFINITELY SOMETHING THAT OUR COMMUNITY ASKED FOR.
AND, UM, JUST I'VE HAD, WORKING AT A HIGH SCHOOL, I'VE HAD SO MANY STUDENTS THAT HAVE WORKED THERE, SOME OF MY OWN FAMILY MEMBERS, MY DAUGHTER.
AND SO I HATED TO HEAR SOME OF THE, THE NEGATIVES THAT WERE GOING ON, YOU KNOW, DURING, DURING THE PAST FEW YEARS.
AND I LOVE THE FACT THAT YOU WERE OUT THERE WITH YOUR TEAM FOR SO LONG, GETTING TO OVERSEE AND, AND JUST WATCH AND OBSERVE AND KNOW WHERE CHANGES NEEDED TO BE MADE.
AND YOUR PRESENTATION SHOWS THAT Y'ALL DID A GREAT JOB OF, UM, OF COMING UP WITH SOLUTIONS OF AREA OF DEFICIT AREAS.
UM, I KNOW THAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR OUR INPUT ON ALCOHOL SERVICE.
I WOULD DEFINITELY LIKE TO SEE YOUR IDEAS AND WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE.
UM, THE REASON I SAY THAT IS IF ANYBODY'S EVER BEEN TO SCHLUTER BOND IN NEW BRONX FALLS, UM, THEY, THEY DO ALLOW ALCOHOL THAT, OR THEY DID, IT'S BEEN A WHILE SINCE I'VE BEEN, BUT THEY, THEY, THEY DID OFFER IT THERE, AND IT, IT STILL KEEPS A FAMILY, UH, FRIENDLY ATMOSPHERE.
SO I'D BE INTERESTED IN SEEING HOW YOU WOULD IMPLEMENT THAT.
UM, LOVE THE FACT THAT, UM, YOU SEEM TO BE GRABBING ON, OR YOUR TEAM SEEMS TO BE GRABBING ONTO THE, THE CULTURE OF BAYTOWN, UM, BY MAKING THE, THE INTERVIEW PROCESS EVEN FUN.
ACTUALLY REMINDS ME OF HOW THE YMCA A USED TO DO THEIR INTERVIEWS.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE EVER KNOWN ANYBODY THAT WORKED FOR THE YMCA, BUT, UM, SINCE THEY HIRED A LOT OF OF YOUNG PEOPLE, THEIR INTERVIEWS WERE ALWAYS THAT GROUP STYLE.
AND, AND YOU CAN FIND OUT WHAT WORKS BEST THAT WAY FOR THE, FOR THE YOUNG PEOPLE.
I'M VERY EXCITED TO SEE WHAT HAPPENS.
IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S, UM, LOOKS LIKE A LOT OF POSITIVE STUFF, SO I'M EXCITED.
THERE IS, WE ARE, WE ARE NOT PERFECT.
WE WON'T BE PERFECT, BUT WE DO WANT TO, TO MOVE FORWARD.
AND SINCE YOU WANTED TO SEE MORE, I HAVE MORE.
SO, UM, WHAT WOULD WE DO? UM, HOW WOULD WE DO IT? A CERTAIN KIND OF LICENSE.
IT WOULD ONLY BE A WINE AND BEER LICENSE.
IT WOULD ONLY BE IN VERY SPECIFIC LOCATIONS.
LIKE IF YOU HAVE A CABANA, IT COULD ONLY BE IN THERE.
AND IF YOU HAVE IT IN THE ADULT POOL OR THE AREA SPECIFICALLY RIGHT THERE, THAT'S THE ONLY PLACE IT COULD BE SERVED.
THAT'S THE ONLY PLACE IT COULD BE CONSUMED.
SO, UM, THE TYPE OF LICENSE WOULD BE KIND OF A RETAILER'S PERMIT.
UM, AND OF COURSE OUR RESPONSIBLE OUTLINE THERE OF HOW YOU WOULD SERVE IT.
SO, SO, AND I DID HAVE ONE QUESTION.
ONE OF THE, UH, POINTS OF CONTENTION LAST YEAR WAS THE, THE COOLER ISSUE MM-HMM
UM, AND I KNOW YOU WERE ON SCENE AND SAW SOME OF THIS.
WHAT DID, WHAT DECISIONS DID Y'ALL DECIDE ABOUT, UM, COOLERS MOVING FORWARD FOR THE PARK? GREAT QUESTION.
SO THE COOLER DECISION WAS ACTUALLY MINE IN THE FIRST PLACE TO IMPLEMENT THAT.
HOW IT WAS IMPLEMENTED AND HOW IT WAS BROUGHT TO MARKET WAS DYNAMICALLY THE WRONG WAY.
AND SO, UM, THERE'S A, THERE'S A GREAT WAY TO TELL SOMEBODY SOMETHING THEY DON'T WANT TO HEAR AND IT STILL BE ACCEPTED.
WELL, AND THAT WAS NOT TAKEN, UM, THAT, THAT WASN'T DONE WELL ANYWAY.
UM, WE WILL BE DOING THAT ALSO, BUT IT'S, IT'S GOTTA BE CONSISTENT.
IT'S GOTTA BE JUST, IT'S EXPECTED AND, YOU KNOW, PRESENTED THAT WAY.
UM, IT DID MAKE ABOUT AN $85,000 POSITIVE MOVE, BUT ALSO THE POSITIVES WHERE YOU NEED TO PRESENT TO YOUR, YOUR CLIENTS ARE, THEY CAN STILL COME AND GO ALL THEY WANT.
THEY'VE GOT A GREAT PICNIC AREA RIGHT OUTSIDE THE GATE.
YES, THEY CAN USE THE WRISTBAND, THEY CAN DO A HANDSTAND.
WE ARE NOT KEEPING OR FORCING ANYONE TO STAY IN AND BUY ANYTHING, BUT WE WANT TO HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY TO, TO KNOW WHAT'S COMING IN AND ALSO TO, YOU KNOW, RECOUP WHAT WE NEED TO RECOUP AS WE'RE PROVIDING THEM A GREAT OPPORTUNITY.
BUT THE POSITIVE ON TOP OF THAT IS THAT YOU HAVE A PARK RIGHT BESIDE YOUR FACILITY THAT THEY CAN STEP OUT, HAVE A WONDERFUL PICNIC, A NICE PARKING IF THEY NEED TO DO THAT.
AND SO WE, WE TOTALLY GET THAT.
IF IT WERE PRESENTED BETTER, IT WOULD'VE BEEN RECEIVED BETTER.
UH, BUT IT STILL, ONCE THAT WENT THROUGH IT, IT CALMED DOWN PRETTY QUICKLY.
AND I JUST HAVE ONE LAST QUESTION AND THAT YOU MAY NOT BE ABLE TO ANSWER THIS.
SO WE'VE TALKED A LOT ABOUT PARKING ISSUES OUT THERE MM-HMM
UM, AND SAFETY AROUND THE PARKING THAT IS AVAILABLE.
HAVE YOU HEARD ANYTHING ABOUT THE PARKING EXPANDING, UM, AND OR HOW WILL YOU HELP WITH SAFETY ISSUES IN THE PARKING LOT THAT ALREADY EXISTS? ABSOLUTELY.
SO WE EXPECT THAT WE ARE GOING TO NEED ADDITIONAL PARKING SOONER RATHER THAN LATER.
UM, AND I'VE BEEN SPEAKING WITH CLIFF AND, AND SOME OF THE OTHERS.
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THERE IS A FIELD ACROSS THAT I, I'M NOT SURE HOW THE PROCESS IS WITH THE CITY.I DON'T WANNA OVERSTEP ANY CONVERSATION, BUT, UM, THERE COULD BE POTENTIAL FOR EXPANDING PARKING OVER THERE, USING THAT FIELD.
UH, I WOULD BE OPEN TO CREATING A VALET PARKING SITUATION IF WE NEEDED TO.
AND, UM, YOU KNOW, SEEING WHAT IS AVAILABLE AROUND THE CORNER.
'CAUSE WE WILL GROW OUR ATTENDANCE AND SO WE'RE GONNA BE PUSHING THAT, UM, PROBABLY MORE WHEN THERE'S A COMBINATION OF SOMETHING GOING ON WITH THE BASEBALL FIELD.
MAYOR, I JUST HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.
UM, SO THANK YOU AGAIN FOR COMING AND, AND DOING THIS FOLLOW UP WITH US.
IT'S ALWAYS GOOD TO SEE, UH, WHAT'S WORKING, MAYBE WHAT WE NEED TO TWEAK.
EXCELLENT IDEAS, COUNCIL MEMBER.
UM, AND SO MY QUESTION IS REALLY AROUND KASO COVE.
UM, AND ACTUALLY ONE PART OF IT IS FOR BOTH.
UM, I KNOW, UH, IN THE PAST WE HAD SOME CHALLENGES WITH, UM, SECURING LIFEGUARDS, UM, TEENAGERS THAT, UM, WOULD COME IN AND WORK.
AND SO HAVE YOU GRASPED THAT, UM, TO WHERE WE, WE DON'T HAVE ANY ISSUES GETTING LIFEGUARDS.
HOW ARE THEY BEING TRAINED? DO YOU HAVE A, A GOOD GROUP THAT HAS, UH, COME ON BOARD WITH YOU? PERFECT.
AND THAT'S FOR BOTH? YES, MA'AM.
THAT IS A, THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.
WE HAVE A GOOD GROUP THAT IS ON BOARD AND A GOOD GROUP THAT IS COMING ON BOARD.
WE WILL HIRE AROUND 2000 LIFEGUARDS ACROSS THE COUNTRY THIS SUMMER.
AND SO WE, WE KNOW HOW TO DO THAT.
UM, IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT EVERY YEAR IS THE SAME.
SO SOME YEARS, EVEN IN A PARK THAT WE HAVE A LOT, SOME YEARS, IT'S JUST LIKE, WHAT'S WEIRD ABOUT THIS YEAR, BUT THE PROCESS IS CREATING A PLACE WHERE PEOPLE WANNA WORK.
YOU HAVE TO CHANGE THE DYNAMIC OF, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT, I DON'T WANNA LIFEGUARD, IT'S LIKE I DON'T WANT A LIFEGUARD THERE.
AND SO HOW DO WE CHANGE THAT? AND PART OF THAT IS THEM SEEING HOW WE DO OUR INTERVIEWS, SEEING HOW OUR STAFF INTERACTS WITH THE, THE ONCOMING STAFF.
THEY GO BACK AND GO, OKAY, YEAH, WE DO WANNA WORK THERE.
AND SO WE'RE SEEING THAT, THAT MOVEMENT.
THE OTHER IS FROM A TRAINING STANDPOINT, ALL OF OUR LEADERSHIP STAFF, OR ALMOST ALL OF OUR LEADERSHIP STAFF ARE LIFEGUARD INSTRUCTORS AS WELL.
I, I, I KEEP MY LIFEGUARD INSTRUCTOR LICENSE ALSO.
AND SO WE ARE HAVING THOSE CLASSES.
AND SO INSTEAD OF GOING AND GETTING A RED CROSS CERTIFICATE SOMEWHERE, AND THEN YOU JUST HAVE PEOPLE SHOW UP THAT REALLY HASN'T WORKED TOGETHER.
I USE THE ANALOGY OF TRYING TO TEACH A A FOOTBALL TEAM AND THEY'VE ALL BEEN COACHED SOMEWHERE DIFFERENT, AND YOU JUST GET 'EM ALL ON THE SAME FIELD AND GO, GO PLAY.
AND SO WE TEACH ALL TOGETHER, THEY LEARN ALL TOGETHER.
SO YOU'VE REALLY GOT THIS, UM, BOOT CAMP MENTALITY WHERE WE'RE ALL A TEAM BEFORE WE EVEN OPEN.
AND SO WE'RE NOT HIRING FOR CALYPSO COVE AND PIRATES BAY, WE'RE, WE'RE HIRING FOR BAY TOWN'S WATER PARKS.
AND THEN WE WILL POSITION THEM AS WE NEED TO.
SO, UM, THEY HAD PLENTY OF LI THEY, THEY HAVE HIRED MORE THAN WE WOULD EVER NEED TO HIRE FOR HERE.
AND SO, UH, HOPEFULLY THAT CHANGES.
UM, THE SECOND PART OF MY QUESTION, UM, WE KNOW WAIT TIMES HAVE ALWAYS BEEN, UH, AN ISSUE BOTH AT PARTS BANK, KASO COVE, AND, UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S A DRAWBACK FOR US AT KASO COVE IS THAT IT'S MUCH SMALLER.
SO WHEN THERE'S A LARGE WAIT TIME, UM, IT, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE GET FRUSTRATED, IT'S A SMALLER PARK AND HOW CAN WE REALLY, UH, MAXIMIZE AND, AND MAKE THINGS MORE EFFICIENT MM-HMM
AND SO I, I'D LIKE TO MAYBE, MAYBE NOT TODAY, BUT UM, KIND OF GET A FEEL FOR HOW Y'ALL ARE TACKLING THAT FOR THE SMALLER PARK AND ANY OTHER, UH, PLANS EITHER TO EXPAND OR, UH, MAKE THAT A MORE ENJOYABLE, YOU KNOW, PLACE FOR THOSE THAT HAVE TO LEAVE BECAUSE IT IS SO SMALL AND THAT PARK IS ALWAYS PACKED.
SO IS THE WAIT TIME ONCE YOU GET IN OR THE WAIT TIME IS TO GET IN TO GET IN? OKAY.
SO A COUPLE THINGS THAT YOU WOULD NORMALLY DO WITH THE BUSINESS OF ANY KIND IS WHEN IT'S SUPPLY AND DEMAND.
AND SO IF THERE'S THAT MANY PEOPLE WAITING, DO YOU RAISE A PRICE? BUT THAT'S ALSO NOT WHAT WE WANT TO DO WITH THAT PARTICULAR PARK, RIGHT? IT'S AN AMENITY PARK THAT WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY HAS ACCESS TO.
SO THEN WE THINK ABOUT DO WE NEED TO EXPAND THAT? BUT WHAT, AT WHAT COST DOES THAT COME MM-HMM
IS IT A CITY COST? AND DO WE JUST CONTINUE TO MAINTAIN A LOW PRICE BUT SERVICE WHO WE NEED TO SERVICE? AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT MAYBE WE COULD ALL FIGURE OUT TOGETHER OVER THE SUMMER MM-HMM
UM, FROM A BAYTOWN STANDPOINT, THAT PARK IS MISSING AND AN EXTRAVAGANT CHILDREN'S AREA.
UH, SO WE CAN, I MEAN A, A KIDS' AREA THAT COULD HANDLE A THOUSAND KIDS AT A TIME MM-HMM
AND MY FUTURE PLAN WOULD BE THAT WE WORK TOGETHER TO PUT ONE BACK BY THE BOOM ORANGO ON THE FAR SIDE OF THE, THE WAVE POOL WHERE THAT BIG GRASS AREA THAT'S ALREADY IN, INSIDE WHERE WE COULD EXPAND THAT BECAUSE YOU HAVE A LOVELY FACILITY
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AND YOU HAVE A KIDS' AREA ABOUT THE SIZE OF THIS PODIUM MM-HMMAND IT'S JUST, IT'S NOT PROPORTIONATELY RIGHT.
AND THAT WOULD CREATE SUCH A BIG EXPANSIVE OPENING TO WHERE THE PARKING WOULD BE THE PROBLEM.
THEY CAN PARK OVER HERE AND WALK ACROSS THE BRIDGE.
I KNOW, RIGHT? WE GET A SHUTTLE FROM DOWNTOWN OR SOMETHING.
COUNCILMAN FI APPRECIATE THE PRESENTATION.
IT'S, IT'S EXCITING TO SEE, UM, YOU KNOW, THE CHANGES YOU'VE MADE OUT THERE AND KIND OF THE, THE PATH WE HAVE GOING FORWARD.
UM, AS FAR AS THE, THIS NEW INITIATIVE OR ANY NEW INITIATIVE, UM, I WON'T SAY FOR SURE I'M GONNA APPROVE OF ANY INITIATIVE, BUT, BUT I FEEL LIKE I WILL JUST BECAUSE I MEAN, YOU RUN WATER PARKS AND WE DON'T, SO I MEAN, I DEFINITELY, UM, ANY IDEAS YOU HAVE THAT YOU THINK ARE GONNA MAKE IT MORE SUCCESSFUL, UM, YOU KNOW, I WANT TO EXPLORE THOSE AND SEE HOW WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH THOSE.
UM, ONE QUESTION ON THE PRESENTATION ON THE, UM, THE SEASON PASSES, I THINK YOU HAD, WAS IT A CAPTAIN'S PASS OR SOMETHING THAT WAS NEW? WE DID.
DID WHAT IS THAT? I DON'T THINK YOU COVERED WHAT EXACTLY THAT IS OR HOW THAT'S NEW.
WHAT DOES THAT INCLUDE? OKAY, GOOD DEAL.
SO, UH, I WENT THROUGH IT PRETTY QUICK.
IT'S ON THE SCREEN NOW IF YOU GUYS HAVE ONE, BUT IT, IT INCLUDES A LITTLE BIT MORE WHEN YOU GET IN THE PARK.
IT ALSO COMES WITH THREE, UH, FREE TICKETS.
SO YOU COULD BRING A BUDDY THREE DIFFERENT TIMES IF YOU GOT THAT FOR YOUR, YOUR CHILD OR YOU HAVE ONE AND YOU WANNA BRING A BUDDY TODAY OR WHATEVER.
SO YOU'RE REALLY GETTING, IT'S COSTING ABOUT $60 MORE, BUT YOU'RE GETTING ABOUT $90 WORTH OF TICKETS FREE WITH IT, PLUS 10% OFF OF EVERYTHING YOU BUY ALL SUMMER IN THE PARK.
WHAT ELSE? UM, WELL I LIKE EVERYTHING THAT WE'VE, UM, THAT YOU'VE DISCUSSED SO FAR.
I'M GLAD TO HEAR THAT THE PRICES ARE VERY REASONABLE.
AND, UM, ONE QUESTION THAT I HAVE IS SPECIAL EVENTS.
WHAT TYPE OF SPECIAL EVENTS DO YOU ALL PLAN ON HOLDING? PERFECT.
WE HAVE, UH, BOOKED A FEW CONCERTS, UH, LOW TO MID RANGE, BUT VERY FUN CONCERTS.
UH, WE'RE TALKING RIGHT NOW WITH A, UM, TAYLOR SWIFT TRIBUTE ARTIST, UH, TO SEE ABOUT HAVING THAT OUT THERE.
UM, I WOULD LOVE TO DO, UH, AND CLIFF AND TRACY AND I WERE TALKING ABOUT THIS.
I WOULD LOVE TO DO, UH, FRIDAY NIGHT FIREWORKS.
WE STAY OPEN TILL NINE O'CLOCK ON FRIDAY NIGHTS.
UH, WE DO WHAT WE CALL FRIDAY NIGHT LIVE, AND THAT'S JUST IN, UH, JUNE AND JULY.
SO EIGHT OR NINE, UH, FRIDAY NIGHTS.
AND THAT LAST 45 MINUTES OR SO, WE'RE PRETTY MUCH ALL AT THE WAVE POOL.
WE'VE GOT A DJ OR A LIVE ACT OF SOME KIND BACK THERE.
UH, WE'VE GOT THE VIDEO BOARD GOING, WHICH WE'LL BE REPLACING.
WE'LL BE BUYING A NEW ONE OF THOSE, THIS ONE, THAT ONE'S KINDA SHOT.
UM, AND THEN AT NINE O'CLOCK WE SHOOT OFF FIREWORKS USUALLY TO THE BACK OR SIDE OF THE WAVE POOL SO EVERYBODY CAN SEE THEM.
AND THAT FIREWORK SHOW CONSISTS OF FIREWORKS THAT YOU CAN BUY AT THE STAND.
AND WE SET THAT UP AND WE HAVE SOMEONE ON OUR STAFF THAT HAS GONE THROUGH A FIREWORK SAFETY PROGRAM, AND THEN WE JUST SHOOT THAT OFF OURSELF.
THAT WAY WE CAN DO SOMETHING THAT'S VERY FUN FOR THE FAMILY AND THE KIDS, BUT ALSO IT'S NOT A $5,000 FIREWORK SHOW EVERY FRIDAY NIGHT.
AND, AND IT'S, SO IF WE CAN WORK THAT OUT AND MAKE SURE WE HAVE OUR 400 FOOT RING AND WE WORK WITH THE POLICE CHIEF AND, AND THOSE, OR FIRE CHIEF AND DO THAT, THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING I WOULD LOVE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN IMPLEMENT.
'CAUSE IT'S, IT'S A GREAT DRAW TO GIVE SOMEBODY SOMETHING TO DO, GIVE FAMILY SOMETHING TO DO A LITTLE BIT LATER ON A FRIDAY NIGHT.
IF Y'ALL NEED ANYTHING, PLEASE CALL US AT ANY TIME.
IF, IF I MAY, I JUST WANTED TO, UM, GIVE COUNSEL, UM, A HEADS UP THE CITY CLERK AND I DISCUSSED PRIOR TO, UM, THE MEETING, UH, WHETHER OR NOT, UH, A VARIANCE WOULD BE NEEDED FOR THE ALCOHOL SALES AT THIS TIME.
WE THINK THERE WOULD, UM, DUE TO THE PROX, DUE TO THE PROXIMITY, UM, TO ONE OF THE SCHOOLS IN THE AREA.
AND SO, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'LL VERIFY THAT AND IF SO, YOU MAY SEE THAT COME BACK IN THAT FORM.
SO JUST WANTED TO MAKE YOU ALL AWARE.
[b. Discussion regarding current and future public transportation options for the City of Baytown.]
DISCUSSION REGARDING, AND WELL, YEAH, I THINK IT'S OR NOT TWO B, WE'RE GONNA MOVE OFF FROM THAT.[c. Discussion regarding the future plans for the Tabbs Bay Golf Course.]
DISCUSSION REGARDING THE FUTURE PLANS OF TAPS BAY GOLF COURSE.UM, WANTED TO PROVIDE COUNSEL, UH, WITH SOME INFORMATION AND ALSO GET SOME FEEDBACK ON, UM, SOME POSSIBLE NEXT STEPS, UH, FOR THE PROPERTY.
UH, WE'LL GO THROUGH KIND OF THE ORIGINAL AND, UM, ESTIMATED CONSTRUCTION TIMELINE.
UH, TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THE COURSE ACTIVITY, UM, WHERE
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WE ARE, UM, YOU KNOW, WITH FINANCES AND, UH, SOME SPECIFIC OPTIONS FOR COUNCIL TO CONSIDER, UH, MOVING FORWARD.SO ORIGINALLY, UM, BACK IN APRIL OF 24, UH, THE ORIGINAL GOAL WAS THAT THE KITCHEN WOULD BE UP AND RUNNING BY SEPTEMBER.
UM, THAT DID NOT HAPPEN, OBVIOUSLY.
UM, THERE WERE, UH, PLANS THAT HAD TO BE REDESIGNED AND, UM, REVIEWED AGAIN, UM, BY OUR HEALTH DEPARTMENT, BY OUR PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT SERVICES GROUP, UM, THAT STRETCHED FOR THAT PERIOD, UM, THROUGH AUGUST, UM, IN SEPTEMBER AND OCTOBER OF LAST YEAR, UM, THE FURNITURE AND THEN THE KITCHEN EQUIPMENT WERE ORDERED.
UH, SINCE THEN, THERE HAVE BEEN ACTIVITIES, UM, FOR SOME ADDITIONAL CONSTRUCTION, UM, AND, UH, INSTALLATION OF EQUIPMENT, WHICH WILL BE MORE TOWARDS THE TAIL END OF THIS TIMEFRAME.
AND, UM, SOME UNFORESEEN REPAIRS, UM, MAJORITY OF WHICH THE HVAC UNITS, WHICH WERE ORIGINALLY, UM, THOUGHT TO BE IN GOOD SHAPE.
UH, THERE'S BEEN QUITE A BIT OF, UH, WORK ON THOSE.
JUST ONE OF THE EXAMPLES OF, UM, KIND OF SOME OF THE THINGS THAT HAD TO CHANGE, UM, WITH SOME OF THE EQUIPMENT.
UM, AND WITH SOME OF THE, UM, INSTALLATION CHALLENGES, THINGS DID HAVE TO BE MOVED AROUND.
SO THERE WERE QUITE A FEW DIFFERENT, UM, UH, ITEMS THERE THAT, YOU KNOW, DID PUSH, UH, THE PROJECT OUT MUCH FURTHER THAN WE HAD ORIGINALLY WANTED TO SEE.
UM, WE TALKED ABOUT THE COURSE ACTIVITY, UH, ORIGINALLY IN APRIL.
UH, THE ROUNDS BUDGETED WERE JUST OVER 15,000.
UM, IN LOOKING AT THE ROUNDS ONLY.
AND THEN THE ROUNDS AND, AND RANGE VISITS, BOTH OF THOSE ROUNDS.
UM, THE ROUNDS AND RANGE VISITS ARE BOTH PAID VISITS.
UM, YOU KNOW, IT FELL, UM, AT LEAST, YOU KNOW, 50% SHORT OF THE INITIAL ESTIMATE.
UM, LOOKING AT THAT INITIAL ESTIMATE AS WELL, THE DIFFERENCE IN REVENUE FOR BOTH GOLF AND MERCHANDISE, UM, WAS QUITE A BIT LOWER THAN EXPECTED.
UH, THE INITIAL FOOD AND BEVERAGE PROFITS THAT WERE, UH, ANTICIPATED WITH THAT SEPTEMBER START, UM, DID TOTAL JUST OVER 200,000.
AND SO IF, UM, YOU REALLY KIND OF WANT TO GET AN IDEA OF WHAT THAT WOULD'VE LOOKED LIKE FOR THE, FOR THE COURSE ACTIVITY THAT WE HAD, ASSUMING THERE WAS NO HUGE BUMP IN, UH, COURSE ACTIVITY RELATIVE TO FOOD AND BEVERAGE, PROBABLY WOULD'VE BEEN ABOUT HALF OF THAT.
AND, UH, GOING BACK TO THE ORIGINAL, UM, 1.9 MILLION THAT WAS AUTHORIZED, UH, BACK IN MAY OF 24, UM, TO DATE WE'VE HAD ABOUT 52 INVOICES, UH, HAVE A COUPLE MORE MOST RECENTLY PENDING.
BUT, UH, WE SPENT 1.69 MILLION BASICALLY OF THAT WITH ABOUT 211,000 STILL REMAINING TO, UM, GO TOWARDS WRAPPING UP, UH, THE KITCHEN AND UM, UH, AND KIND OF TAKING THESE NEXT STEPS.
AND SO WHAT ARE WE LOOKING AT CURRENTLY? UM, WE HAVE ABOUT, UM, $240,000 IN OPERATIONAL COSTS THAT WOULD GO THROUGH APRIL 4TH.
UM, THAT INCLUDES, UM, SOME, UH, ITEMS PRIOR TO, UH, UP TO AND PRIOR TO MARCH 21ST, UH, ASSUMING ANOTHER TWO WEEK PAYROLL PERIOD THROUGH APRIL 4TH.
UH, AND THEN THE MANAGEMENT FEE FOR APRIL, UH, COMES TO $240,000 THAT DOES NOT ACCOUNT FOR, UM, ESTIMATED MARCH REVENUE.
YOU KNOW, I HAVE A $25,000 NUMBER THERE, AND I THINK THAT'S FAIRLY CONSERVATIVE BASED ON WHAT I'VE SEEN SO FAR.
SO CHANCES ARE THAT, UM, THAT WOULD BE OFFSET, UM, UH, BY THAT REVENUE AMOUNT.
WE, WE WILL SEE HOW THAT GOES IN TERMS OF THE CONSTRUCTION ITEMS. UH, WE STILL HAVE SOME ADDITIONAL, UM, HVAC WORK, UM, SOME CONSTRUCTION ITEMS AND, UH, GENERAL CONTRACTOR COSTS, DOORS AND WINDOWS, SOME PLUMBING, UH, AND THE BALANCE OF THE KITCHEN EQUIPMENT.
AND SO ALL IN ALL THAT'S UM, APPROXIMATELY FOUR $95,000.
AND SO ONE OF THE THINGS WE WANTED TO DO IN DISCUSSING THAT IS TO LOOK AT, UM, WHAT THAT, UH, WOULD MEAN IN TERMS OF FUNDING.
UM, WE ARE LOOKING AT THINGS THAT ARE CLOSELY RELATED TO THE COURSE.
UM, WE ARE NOT LOOKING AT ANYTHING GENERAL FUND RELATED AT THIS TIME.
UH, OF THE 1.9 MILLION THAT, UM, WAS INITIALLY ALLOCATED, THERE'S ABOUT 211,000 LEFT THERE, UH, THE RETAINAGE FUNDS THAT WE ARE STILL HOLDING ONTO,
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UM, UH, THAT WOULD PROVIDE 120,000.UH, WE HAVE, UM, AVAILABLE PROJECT SAVINGS, UH, FOR A PROJECT THAT, UM, THAT IS NOW COMPLETE AND, UM, AND HAS THAT AVAILABLE FUNDING.
UH, ALSO DISCUSSED WITH FINANCE, THE SPECIAL RECREATION FUND WHERE THIS OPERATION LIES, UM, DOES HAVE THE POTENTIAL FOR ABOUT $300,000, UH, FOR FY 25 IN INTEREST INCOME.
AND THEN THE, UH, DISC GOLF, UM, WORK THAT WAS DONE, THE PRELIMINARY WORK FOR THE 40 ACRE SITE, WHICH NOW IS BEING LOOKED AT, UM, AS PART OF THE, UH, OVERALL PLAN FOR THE, UM, EVENT CENTER, UH, THAT COULD BE REALLOCATED FOR 134,000 WITH TOTAL AVAILABLE FUNDING FROM THOSE SOURCES AT $1.04 MILLION.
AND SO BASED ON SOME FEEDBACK AND, UM, JUST KIND OF LOOKING AT, UH, WHERE WE ARE, UH, THERE'S OPTION ONE, UH, DECOMMISSION THE COURSE, MAINTAIN IT TO PARK STANDARDS, UH, FOR, UH, FOR APPROXIMATELY SIX MONTHS.
WE BELIEVE THOSE COSTS WOULD BE ABOUT $120,000.
UH, WE ALSO HAVE A $30,000 ALLOWANCE FOR DECOMMISSIONING THE COURSE AFTER THE INITIAL EMPLOYEES, UH, ARE LET GO.
THAT WOULD INVOLVE GETTING THE EQUIPMENT, UH, BACK TO THE LEASES, THE GOLF CARTS, COMPUTERS, UH, SHUTTING EVERYTHING DOWN, UM, FROM THE OPERATIONS.
THE OTHER OPTION SHOWN HERE WOULD BE TO, UH, FUND THE RESTAURANT AND COURSE OPERATIONS THROUGH THE END OF FY 25.
UH, THERE'LL BE ABOUT $300,000 THAT WAS ESTIMATED IN TERMS OF, UH, RESTAURANT SUPPLIES AND CONSUMABLES, THE FOOD STOCK, UH, UTENSILS, PLATES, THAT SORT OF THING.
UM, ABOUT 120,000 FOR STAFFING AND UM, UH, SOFT OPENING AND TRAINING.
AND THAT WOULD COVER FOUR PAYROLL CYCLES FOR THAT.
AND THE MOST RECENT ESTIMATES FROM TROON, UM, WOULD HAVE INDICATED THAT, UH, AN ADDITIONAL $450,000 FOR, UH, OPERATIONAL CONTRIBUTIONS THROUGH THE END OF THE FISCAL YEAR WOULD BE NEEDED.
IF WE LOOK AT THAT 1.04 MILLION THAT WE JUST TALKED ABOUT, THAT WOULD BE SHORT, APPROXIMATELY 325,000.
UM, AT THIS POINT, I THINK THE, UM, BEST OPTION THAT WE CAN LOOK AT IS TO MAINTAIN OUR, UM, OUR OPTIONS FOR THE FUTURE, UH, LOOK AT OPTION ONE AND THEN TAKE TIME WITH COUNSEL TO, UM, REALLY DECIDE WHAT WE WANNA DO FOR THE FUTURE OF THAT AREA.
UM, THAT'S ALL THE INFORMATION I HAVE.
I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
UM, IF WE CAN GET SPECIFIC FEEDBACK, UH, FROM YOU ALL, UM, THEN WE CAN PREPARE THE NECESSARY PIECE FOR THE ACTION ITEM THAT'LL COME LATER IN THE, UH, REGULAR MEETING.
UM, THANK YOU FOR THE OVERVIEW.
UM, SO YOU HAD, UH, YOU MAY WELL JUST WANNA PULL IT BACK THROUGH THE SLIDES THAT MAY BE BENEFICIAL, BUT THE, I THINK IT WAS 250 5K FOR THE CONSTRUCTION CLOSEOUT, UM, ISH.
THAT THERE, SO IS THAT, UH, TO FINISH THE CONSTRUCTION OR IS THAT JUST THINGS THAT WE'VE, EQUIPMENT THAT WE KNOW WE'D HAVE TO PAY FOR EVEN IF WE STOPPED WORKING TODAY? UM, THIS IS THE FINISH COM CONSTRUCTION COMPLETELY.
INCLUDES THE, UM, UH, INSTALLATION AND ACQUISITION OF THE EQUIPMENT PLUS THESE OTHER ITEMS THAT, UH, THAT ARE STILL NEEDED.
SO IF WE, IF WE WALKED AWAY TODAY AND JUST DIDN'T FINISH ANYTHING, WE'D OWE WHAT THE 1 62 5, WHICH IT, WE, WE'D STILL NEED TO PAY FOR THE KITCHEN EQUIPMENT.
WE HAVE, WE HAVE ALREADY, UH, STARTED PROCESSING AT LEAST MOST OF, UM, THIS, UH, THESE INVOICES.
AS I UNDERSTAND IT, MOST OF IT HAS, YES.
I THINK, UM, THERE MIGHT BE ONE OR TWO THINGS THAT, UM, THAT THEY'RE WAITING FOR, UH, SUPPLIES ON MAYBE SOME OF THE DOORS AND WINDOWS.
BUT, UM, FOR THE MOST PART I THINK THAT THIS IS PROBABLY A GOOD NUMBER.
UM, AND THEN ON YOUR, YOUR OPTION ONE, OPTION TWO, OPTION ONE WAS 150 K.
AND JUST MAKE SURE I'M CLEAR, THIS IS JUST FOR, UH, THAT'S THE ESTIMATE FOR SIX MONTHS, SIR.
SO WE WOULD STILL NEED TO, THIS ONLY GETS US THROUGH, I GUESS THROUGH THE END OF THE FISCAL YEAR.
WE'D HAVE TO DECIDE WHAT ARE WE GONNA DO WITH THIS GOING FORWARD.
WE THOUGHT THAT THAT WOULD BE, UH, CONCURRENT TO, UM, YOU KNOW, THE, THE SIX
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MONTHS OF MAINTENANCE THAT WE WOULD, YOU KNOW, HAVE SOME ADDITIONAL CONVERSATIONS, TALK SPECIFICS, AND HOPEFULLY HAVE A, UM, A PLAN FOR FY 26 PRIOR TO THE END OF THAT PERIOD.THANK YOU FOR THOSE, THOSE QUESTIONS.
UM, COUNCILMAN POWELL, I GUESS I NEED CLARITY ON MAY THE SEVENTH, WE WERE GIVEN THREE OPTIONS, $3.9 MILLION, $1.9 MILLION.
AND THEN THE THIRD OPTION, WHICH WAS VERY SIMILAR TO THIS FIRST OPTION TO DECOMMISSION, TO WALK AWAY, UM, AT THAT TIME IT WAS TO NOT PAY LOCAL, UM, VENDORS, CONTRACTORS.
UM, WHAT I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT IS WHY AT THAT TIME ON THAT SLIDE THAT WAS PRESENTED TO ALL OF US, DID IT SAY 250,000 TO $500,000, HAD THE WORD UNKNOWN BY IT.
WHY WAS THAT THE PRICE 10 MONTHS AGO AND NOW THE PRICE TO DECOMMISSION THE PARK IS 150,000? I THINK THAT SINCE WE KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THE DECOMMISSIONING WOULD INVOLVE, AND THAT IS, THAT 30,000 IS SPECIFIC TO BASICALLY TRUE AND CLOSING OUT THEIR OPERATION, SENDING THE EQUIPMENT BACK, THAT SORT OF THING.
UM, WE DIDN'T REALLY HAVE, UM, YOU KNOW, A TRUE PLAN OTHER THAN MAINTAINING IT, UH, AS A PARK, UM, AT THAT TIME.
SO THAT WAS A GUESS BASED ON A COUPLE DIFFERENT OPTIONS FOR NOT CONTINUING TO OPERATE.
BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, THIS IS MUCH MORE SPECIFIC BASED ON WHERE WE ARE NOW AND WHAT THE NEXT STEPS MIGHT BE.
I DON'T KNOW OF A TRUE PLAN TO ME AND I, I JUST, I WANTED TO MAKE SURE AND SAY THIS UP HERE TO ME, WHAT WE WERE, THE OPTIONS THAT WE HAD, AND ONE OF THEM WAS TO DECOMMISSION THE PARK 10 MONTHS AGO.
IT'S NOT MUCH DIFFERENT THAN THIS.
AND I KNOW WE'VE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT THIS TO SOME EXTENT, BUT I, THE KITCHEN'S STILL NOT DONE.
I MEAN, I KNOW THAT HE ASKED SPECIFICALLY, UM, WHERE WE WERE AT AND YOU'RE GIVING THE BEST RESPONSE YOU CAN, BUT WHETHER IT'S A DOOR, A WINDOW CARPET, HVAC SYSTEM, I MEAN, WHATEVER IT IS, IT'S NOT DONE.
IT'S NOT OPERABLE, IT'S NOT OPEN.
AND UM, I APPRECIATE YOU COMING UP WITH THESE TWO OPTIONS.
I HAVE ZERO FAITH IN ANYTHING THAT HAS TO DO WITH THIS GOLF COURSE RIGHT NOW BECAUSE NOW I'M UP TO, I'M AT OPTION FIVE AT THIS POINT IN MY TWO AND A HALF YEARS AS A COUNCIL MEMBER.
AND SO FAR, NONE OF THEM HAVE ACTUALLY COME TO FRUITION OF WHAT WAS IN FRONT OF ME.
SO THANK YOU FOR PUTTING IT TOGETHER.
BUT FOR ME IT'S LIKE, I I DON'T BELIEVE ANY OF IT ANYMORE, MAYOR COUNSEL.
I I, IF WE GO BACK TO TRY TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION DIRECTLY, IF WE GO BACK AND I THINK THIS IS WHAT BRAND WAS TALKING ABOUT, YOU HAD A LAWSUIT GOING ON WITH, UH, BUILD BAYTOWN SHREW AT THE SAME TIME WAS AN EMPLOYEE OF BUILD BAYTOWN.
RIGHT? AND THEN THERE WAS AN OVERLAP OF THEM HAVE BEING CONTINGENT TO WORK WITH THE CITY OF BAYTOWN DEPENDING ON HOW THINGS WENT.
THEY WERE NOT ABLE TO GIVE A LOT OF FACTS.
THEY DIDN'T KNOW WHAT WAS GONNA BE OWED TO ANY OF THE LEASES THAT WE DIDN'T, WE DIDN'T KNOW WHAT THE NEXT STEPS WERE.
UM, BECAUSE WE STILL HAD TO FIGURE OUT WHAT WAS GOING ON WITH BILL BAYTOWN.
WE HAD TO FIGURE OUT WHAT WAS GOING ON WITH, WITH TROON OR WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN WITH THE GOLF COURSE FROM THE CITY COUNCIL'S PERSPECTIVE AS WELL.
THAT'S MY RECOLLECTION OF THOSE CONVERSATIONS THAT WERE HAPPENING WITH THAT IT DOESN'T MAKE ANYBODY UP APPEAR, FEEL BETTER.
I'M NOT TRYING TO MAKE YOU FEEL BETTER, I'M TRYING TO GIVE YOU MORE CONTEXT TO THE SITUATION THAT WAS AT HAND AT THAT POINT IN TIME BECAUSE THERE WERE SO MANY UNKNOWNS WITH WHAT WAS GONNA HAPPEN WITH BILL BETEL.
ONE, WHAT WAS GONNA HAPPEN WITH TRU IF TRU WAS EVEN WILLING TO STAY, AND THEN IF TRUMAN WASN'T WILLING TO STAY, HOW DO WE AS A STAFF HANDLE ALL OF THE LEASE EQUIPMENT BEING RETURNED AND EVERYTHING ELSE? THAT WAS THE, A BIG PORTION OF THAT.
AND FROM MY RECOLLECTION OF THE CONVERSATIONS THAT THE COUNCIL HAD OF PAYING BACK THE VENDORS, UH, PART OF THAT 1.9 MILLION, THERE WAS A PORTION OF THAT, THAT THAT MONEY WAS HANDLED BY TRU TO PAY THOSE VENDORS BACK, WHICH REDUCED OUR LIABILITY TO HAVE TO GO PAY THOSE, UH, INDIVIDUALS.
AM I SAYING THAT PAYING IT BACK AS, UH, WHATEVER THE, THE AGREEMENTS WERE WHEN IT WAS ALL SET UP? I DON'T WANNA MISSTATE WHAT, WHAT IT WAS, BUT IT WAS, UM, THAT WAS SOME OF THE COSTS THAT WAS IN THE, THAT OPTION ONE AT THE TIME.
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THINK WE HAVE ALL THAT, BUT THERE WAS, THERE WERE COSTS WITH ENDING, UH, LEGAL AGREEMENTS THAT WE WERE UNAWARE OF WHAT WAS GONNA HAPPEN AT THAT TIME.AND IF I'M MISSING ANYTHING, UM, STILL YOU MAY NOT HAVE, YOU MAY HAVE ZERO FAITH ALL OF YOU UP HERE COM.
UM, THIS, THIS ENTIRE GOLF COURSE ENDEAVOR AT THIS POINT, AND, UH, THERE'S A LOT OF UNKNOWNS.
IT HASN'T BEEN DONE FOR ME AT ALL.
I, I MEAN, I WANNA BE VERY DIRECT WITH EVERYBODY.
I, IT IS VERY PUBLIC KNOWLEDGE THAT I ABSTAINED FROM A VOTE ON MAY 2ND.
AND AFTER FIVE DAYS OF RESEARCH AND A EXPERT LAW PERSON, I MADE A DECISION TO GO WITH WHAT WAS IN FRONT OF ME, WHICH WERE THREE CHOICES.
AND, UM, CHOSE THE ONE THAT I THOUGHT WAS THE BEST FOR BAYTOWN.
AND NOW THESE TWO, YOU KNOW, I WAS, I WAS EAGER TO SEE TONIGHT AT THE WORK SESSION, YOU KNOW, WHAT WAS GOING TO, WHAT WAS GONNA BE PRESENTED TO US.
BUT FOR ME IT'S STILL, I, I FEEL LIKE I DID 10 MONTHS AGO.
YOU KNOW, IT'S, AND I APPRECIATE YOU ACKNOWLEDGING AND SAYING YOU UNDERSTAND WHY THERE'S LITTLE FAITH FOR, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT SPEAKING TO ANYBODY ELSE, BUT FOR ME, VERY LITTLE FAITH.
UM, I WANTED TO SEE THE BEST OUTCOME FOR AN ASSET THAT HAD BEEN PURCHASED BEFORE I CAME UP HERE, BUT FOR ME IT'S LIKE WE'RE, WE'RE BACK TO POINT A AND, YOU KNOW, POINT A WITH LESS MONEY
UM, AND SO I JUST, I DON'T KNOW, IT'S, I'M EAGER TO HEAR WHAT EVERYBODY ELSE SAYS ABOUT THIS BECAUSE I, IT'S A SITUATION WHERE I DIDN'T KNOW IT WAS GONNA CAUSE $150,000 OF DECOMMISSION.
WELL, JUST TO COUNCIL MEMBER POWELL'S POINT, AND, AND TO YOUR FIRST QUESTION, IT'S ACTUALLY $240,000 JUST TO MOW THE GRASS EACH YEAR.
AND SO IF YOU FIGURE THE TWO 40 AS PART OF THE OPTION ONE BEFORE, I DON'T KNOW, I, I DON'T WANT TO MISSPEAK ON WHAT THAT IS, BUT THERE WERE A LOT OF COSTS THAT WERE JUST GENERALLY SPOKE ABOUT ON THE PREVIOUS CONVERSATION.
AND SO, UM, THERE'S STILL COST HERE, EVEN IF WITH DOING NOTHING, RIGHT? MM-HMM
NOW WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY, UM, QUICK QUESTION.
CAN WE GO BACK TO THE OPTION ONE AND OPTION TWO, OPTION ONE, DECOMMISSION THE COURSE.
UM, DOES THAT INCLUDE SENDING BACK THE KIT KITCHEN EQUIPMENT OR DOES THIS INCLUDE INSTALLING THE KITCHEN EQUIPMENT IN THE DECOMMISSION? UH, THIS, UH, ASSUMES THAT THE 4 95 WOULD BE, UM, WOULD BE PAID UPFRONT AND THEN THE ONE 50 WOULD BE FOR GOING FORWARD.
SO THE IDEA THAT, YOU KNOW, WE CLOSED THE COURSE AS OF A CERTAIN DATE, MAYBE, UM, RIGHT HERE IS THE FOURTH.
I KNOW THAT THERE HAVE BEEN OTHER DISCUSSIONS ABOUT POSSIBILITY OF A DIFFERENT DATE, BUT, UM, CLOSING THE COURSE AS OF THE FOURTH AND THEN STARTING PARKS MAINTENANCE FROM THAT POINT ON FOR THE NEXT SIX MONTHS AND THEN THE $30,000 TO DECOMMISSION TO GET THE EQUIPMENT BACK AND, UH, IN THE, THAT PROCESS.
SO THE COMMENT I HAVE IS THAT, UM, OH, GO AHEAD.
I'M MORE THAN HAPPY TO LET YOU LEAD OFF, BUT GO AHEAD, GO AHEAD.
MAKE, MAKE YOURSELF COMFORTABLE IF YOU DON'T MIND.
SO EVERY TIME WE TALK ABOUT THE NUMBERS, IT GETS MORE AND MORE CONFUSING.
SO 4 95 FINISHES EVERYTHING OUT AS FAR AS CONSTRUCTION IN THE RESTAURANT.
THEN OPTION ONE IS AN ADDITIONAL 150,000.
SO IT'S ACTUALLY CLOSE TO 700,000 TO CLOSE OUT.
OPTION TWO IS 4 95 PLUS THE EIGHT 70.
I CAN GIVE THOSE EXACT FIGURES IF YOU'D LIKE, HUH? I CAN GIVE THOSE EXACT FIGURES IF YOU'D LIKE.
WE WE'RE JUST IN BALLPARK NUMBERS.
I MEAN, SO AGAIN, IT, IT IS SIGNIFICANT AND IT'S GONNA RUN AROUND $240,000 A YEAR JUST TO MOW THE GRASS AND, AND, AND JUST KIND AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED, JUST PLANT WILDFIRES OUT THERE.
AND LET'S LOOK AT THE PRETTY FLOWERS.
I'VE, I'VE STATED FROM THE VERY BEGINNING, AND I WAS DECIDING TO VOTE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS COURSE THAT I, I WOULD NOT SUPPORT A CITY OWNED, OPERATED AND SUPPLEMENTED GOLF COURSE.
THE CONCEPT OF THIS COURSE WAS A NINE HOLE THAT COULD PLAY 18.
SOMEBODY BASICALLY LEASED THE PROPERTY FROM US AND WE WOULD PUT IN 6 MILLION TO HELP GENERATE OR CREATE THE PARK, AND THEN THEY WOULD OWN OPERATE THE
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GOLF COURSE, AND THEY WOULD EITHER TAKE THE, THE FINANCIAL HIT OR THE FINANCIAL GAME.I STILL THINK THAT CONCEPT IS A WONDERFUL CONCEPT.
THE STRUGGLE OVER THE LAST, WHAT THREE YEARS IS AT EVERY, IT SEEMS TO ME AT EVERY OPPORTUNITY ROADBLOCKS ARE PUT IN PLACE.
AND AND I'LL PARAPHRASE THIS WITH, I SPOKE WITH ONE OF MY MENTORS RECENTLY, AND HE REMINDED ME THAT WHEN THINGS GO BAD, NEVER LOOK FOR WHO, LOOK FOR WHAT AND HOW.
SO I DON'T, I'M I'M NOT POINTING FINGERS AT ANYBODY.
I DON'T, THERE THERE'S NOT A WHO IN THIS.
SO, BUT EVERY STEP OF THE WAY THERE WERE DELAYS.
SOME WERE THE ORIGINAL DEVELOPERS, SOME WERE THE TRANSITION IN BETWEEN, WHICH IS COMPLICATED.
AND THEN SOME WERE AFTER THE FACT WHEN WE VOTED FOR 1.9, THE DISCUSSION HINGED AROUND WHAT IS IT GONNA TAKE TO GET THIS THING FINISHED SO THAT WE COULD RESELL IT IN THE, IN THE CONTEXT OF RESELL IT TO SOMEBODY ELSE TO COME IN AND DO WHAT THE ORIGINAL DEVELOPER HAD THE CONCEPT OF GAVE THE MONEY MOVE FORWARD.
HERE WE ARE, 10 MONTHS LATER, THE RESTAURANT'S STILL NOT FINISHED.
AS MY COLLEAGUE INDICATED, SHE DOESN'T HAVE MUCH FAITH IN FINISHING OUT.
I, I'M NOT GONNA USE THAT WORD, BUT I'LL TELL YOU, I I, I HAVE SERIOUS LACK OF CONFIDENCE THAT WE CAN FINISH THIS PROJECT.
IT, IT'S A SIMPLE, YOU WOULD THINK IT'S A SIMPLE ISSUE OF, BUT APPARENTLY NOT.
SO I, I'VE BEEN BEEN ASKED, YOU KNOW, IF IT, IF I'M FRUSTRATED WITH THIS, I'M NOT FRUSTRATED WITH THIS AT ALL.
I'M ANGRY THE CITY THIS SIZE, AND WE CAN'T EVEN FINISH OUT A PROJECT WITHOUT IT RUNNING INTO TRIPLE COST OVERRUNS.
THAT'S, THAT'S NOT FRUSTRATING.
AND, AND AGAIN, IT'S NOT THE WHO, IT'S JUST HOW DID THIS GO SO WRONG AND HOW DO WE FIX IT? AND, AND WE'RE STILL ARGUING SEMANTICS OVER HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS.
THIS IS NOT JUST 20, 30,000 HERE, 20 THIRDS AND THOUSAND THERE.
THE $150,000 OPTION IS FOR SIX MONTHS.
WELL THEN AGAIN, AS AN ANNUAL BASIS TO GO FORWARD, JUST TO MOW THE PROPERTY AFTER THE FACT IS GONNA COST US CLOSE TO $250,000 A YEAR.
AND, AND AGAIN, PARKS DEPARTMENT WILL TAKE GOOD CARE OF IT.
BUT THAT'S STILL A CHUNK OF CHANGE.
IT THAT, I TELL YOU, THE CITY MANAGER AND I HAVE HAD SEVERAL DISCUSSIONS AND I PROMISED I, I WOULD BE POLITE AND I'M TRYING MY BEST TO BE AS POLITE AS I CAN.
BUT AS A COUNCIL MEMBER SITTING UP HERE TAKING THE HEAT AND, AND I'M TAKING HEAT ON BOTH SIDES, I HAVE INDIVIDUALS CALLING ME, GOING IN FOR A PENNY OUT FOR A POUND, STAY THE COURSE.
AND I HAVE INDIVIDUALS GOING, YOU KNOW, WHEN IS ENOUGH ENOUGH? AND, AND I'M AT THE POINT ENOUGH'S ENOUGH, UM, AND IT'S IN MY DISTRICT AND IT'S GONNA HAVE SERIOUS NEGATIVE IMPACTS ON MY DISTRICT, BUT WE JUST CAN'T KEEP POURING MONEY INTO THIS WHEN THERE'S, AGAIN, SO MANY UNKNOWNS.
AND THIS IS NOT DIRECTLY ON TOPIC, BUT WE GOT ANOTHER MAJOR PROJECT COMING UP THAT I DON'T HAVE CONFIDENCE WE'LL BE ABLE TO DO THAT EITHER, MAYOR, I REALLY DON'T.
SO WE'RE GONNA STRUGGLE WITH THAT DISCUSSION.
SO AGAIN, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO.
IN, IN THIS CASE, I DON'T KNOW WHAT GUIDANCE TO GIVE.
UM, YOU KNOW, SHUT IT DOWN, BULLDOZE IT, FILL IN THE PONDS, CREATE A A, A HABITAT FOR THE WILDLIFE.
THERE'S NOTHING GONNA BE CHEAP AND IT'S GONNA CONTINUE TO COST US.
SO DO WE BITE THE BULLET ONE MORE TIME AND GO FORWARD AND TRY TO FINISH THIS PROJECT AND GET IT TO THE POINT THAT WE CAN TURN TO THE, THE WATERPARK FOLKS? ARE THEY STILL HERE? THEY'RE STILL HERE.
Y'ALL EVER DEAL WITH GOLF COURSES?
THIS THING HAS GOTTEN SO LOST IN THE WOODS.
I DON'T THINK THERE'S, I DON'T, I I, I JUST, AGAIN, FRUSTRATION IS NOT THE CORRECT TERM, SO I'LL LET IT GO AT THAT.
WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY IS THAT, UM, WHAT IT SOUNDS LIKE TO ME, I SIT IN THE AUDIENCE WHEN THIS CONVERSATION WAS HAD.
SO I DIDN'T HAVE THE INFORMATION THAT YOU ALL HAD.
AND WHAT IT SOUNDS LIKE I'M HEARING NOW IS THAT STAFF GAVE YOU ALL THE INFORMATION AND A DECISION WAS MADE BASED OFF OF THE INFORMATION
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THAT YOU ALL WERE GIVEN, TALKING WITH THE CITY MANAGER, AND WE'VE TALKED EXTENSIVELY ABOUT THIS.THEY DIDN'T HAVE ALL THE INFORMATION, THEY GAVE THE INFORMATION THAT THEY HAD, AND YOU ALL MADE A DECISION.
THAT'S NOT SAYING ANYBODY IS WRONG TO ECHO THE WORDS OF MR. LESTER.
YOU ALL FINALLY HAVE PERTINENT INFORMATION, YOU SIFTED THROUGH THINGS AND GOT, AND HAVE FACTUAL INFORMATION.
NOW I'M, I'M, I'M CONFIDENT IN THAT.
UM, I'M GONNA BE HONEST WITH YOU, I'M CONFIDENT IN THESE NUMBERS BECAUSE I FEEL AS IF YOU HAVE FACTUAL INFORMATION, NOT SOMEBODY ELSE'S TRUTH, BUT FACTUAL INFORMATION.
NOW, WE WERE ASKED TO GIVE DIRECTION AFTER FOUR FOUR.
WE DON'T, WE ARE NOT GONNA HAVE ANOTHER MEETING BEFORE THEN.
SO WE NEED TO TAKE SOME TIME, GIVE SOME SERIOUS THOUGHT TO THIS.
AND IF THESE ARE OUR TWO OPTIONS, WE NEED TO TAKE THE TIME AND GIVE STAFF DIRECTION SO WE CAN MOVE FORWARD ON THIS.
AND MAYOR COUNSEL, MR. LUSTER, TO YOUR POINT, UH, THE NUMBERS, THEY MAY SEEM TO BE DIFFERENT.
WHAT MAY HELP, OKAY, IS IF WE TAKE THE ONE 20 OFF OF THIS ISSUE, OPTION ONE IS $30,000 ON TOP OF THE 4 95, THAT HAS TO BE FIGURED OUT.
OKAY? THAT HAS TO BE ON THE CONSTRUCTION PIECE.
THE ONE 20 IS JUST THE REALIZATION THAT THERE'S A BUDGET ASPECT THAT OF OPERATIONS THAT HAVE TO BE ENDURED TO THE PARK THAT IS SEPARATE.
AND ASIDE FROM CHOOSING WHAT HAPPENS TO THE GOLF COURSE, IT'S JUST A REALITY THAT COMES WITH IT, RIGHT? AND SO YOU CAN SAY THAT OPTION ONE IS $30,000.
AND THEN BRENT, CAN YOU GO BACK TWO SLIDES TO THE 1.9 MILLION? UH, ONE MORE RIGHT? THERE, RIGHT NOW YOU'VE SPENT 1, 6, 8, 8, OKAY.
800,000 OF THAT WENT TO SMALL BUSINESS.
I'M NOT, I'M TRYING, I'M NOT HERE TO TRY TO ADVOCATE FOR WHAT WAS GOING ON.
OKAY? I'M TRYING TO GIVE THE REALITY OF THE WHOLE SITUATION AT HAND OF THE 1.9 MILLION 800,000 WENT TO SUPPORT BAYTOWN BUSINESSES, UH, MOSTLY BAYTOWN BUSINESSES THAT WERE, THAT WERE ASSISTING WITH THE DEVELOPMENT OF THIS COURSE AND A SITUATION WENT BAD, OKAY? AND THEN YOU HAD ANOTHER 1.1 MILLION THAT WAS DEDICATED TOWARDS THE BUILD OUT OF THE KITCHEN, WHICH WE KNOW HAS BEEN A, A CLUSTER.
OKAY? AND THEN, UM, YOU ALSO HAD DEDICATED 360,000 TO THE OPERATIONS THAT WERE SUPPOSED TO SUPPORT THE REST OF 2024 AND 2025.
YOU CAN SEE WHAT THE ACTUALS ARE UP THERE.
UM, WE HAVE NOT DONE THE COURSE UPDATES AS THAT, AS WE SAID WE WERE.
UM, AND THEN AS PART OF THE A HUNDRED THOUSAND FOR THE, UH, IRRIGATION, UH, WE WERE ABLE TO NOT HAVE TO PAY THAT, WHICH WAS A VERY, UH, UM, BENEFICIAL THING FOR THIS WHOLE PROJECT.
AND SO RIGHT NOW, YES, 1.9 MILLION WAS SPENT CURRENTLY IN THE ACTUAL 1.68 MILLION WAS SPENT.
THE ASK IN FRONT OF YOU RIGHT NOW IS TO SPEND 500,495 PLUS ADDITIONAL 30,000.
I'M JUST GONNA USE 500,000 AS THE TALKING POINT AS EASY MATH RIGHT NOW.
OKAY? IF YOU CLOSE THAT OUT TODAY, THAT'S THE 4 9 5 PLUS 30,000.
I'M JUST SAYING 500,000 TO KEEP IT EASY IS 1.688 MILLION PLUS 500,000.
OKAY? 1.688, WHICH IS IN FRONT OF YOU IS WHAT WE'VE ACTUALLY SPENT RIGHT NOW, AND THEN 500,000 ON TOP OF THE 1.68.
EIGHT EIGHT, OKAY? SO THAT'S 2.18.
I'M GONNA ROUND THAT UP TO 2.2.
SO THE OVERAGE AT THIS POINT WAS 300,000.
I'M TRYING TO SIMPLIFY THIS AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE, UM, BECAUSE YOU'VE LOOKED AT A LOT OF NUMBERS WITH THIS STUFF.
SO IN TOTAL, THIS PROJECT HAS RUN THE COURSE OF COSTING THIS BODY $300,000 MORE.
OKAY? THAT WAS WHY WE BROUGHT IT TO YOU TO SAY, HEY, WE NEED TO MAKE A DECISION BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO, IT'S NOT OPERATING ANYWHERE.
UH, LIKE WE THOUGHT IT WAS BASED ON NEW NUMBERS THAT WE GOT, UM, LATE JANUARY, LATE LATE JANUARY, I BELIEVE.
UM, UH, AND IT JUST COMES TO Y'ALL.
IT'S NOT MEANT TO BE CONFUSING.
BRENT WAS JUST TRYING TO BE INCLUSIVE OF ALL THE DATA THAT THAT'S RUNNING HERE.
I'M SORRY THAT THIS HAS BEEN SUCH A CLUSTER.
THIS I, I, IF I NEVER SEE ANOTHER DAMN KITCHEN, I'LL BE SO HAPPY.
OKAY? UM, BUT THAT'S, THAT'S WHERE WE'RE AT AT THIS POINT.
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SIMPLIFY IT A LITTLE BIT.AND AGAIN, AGAIN, I'M, I'M NOT LOOKING FOR THE WHO I THINK STAFF HAS DONE WHAT THEY CAN.
PART OF THE ISSUE OF UNDER PERFORMANCE FOR THE, THE COURSE BEFORE WE VOTED INITIALLY FOR THIS THING, WE GOT PERSPECTIVES FROM NOT ONLY THE DEVELOPERS THAT WERE THERE, BUT PERSPECTIVES FROM OTHERS.
50% OF THE REVENUE SOURCES WAS THE RESTAURANT.
BOTTOM LINE, HALF OF EVERYTHING.
THIS COURSE HAS STRUGGLED A SLOW MEANDERING DEATH, IF YOU WILL, BECAUSE THE RESTAURANT COULD NEVER GET OFF THE GROUND.
SO 50% IT, IT, WHAT BUSINESS IS GONNA GO IN BUSINESS AND, AND EXPECT TO SURVIVE KNOWING THAT 50% OF THEIR PROFIT MARGIN IS NOT AVAILABLE.
I MEAN, THAT'S, THAT'S THE SLOW LINGERING DEATH AND, AND THE DRAGGING OUT EVERY DISC CONTINUALLY DRAGGING IT OUT FOR THIS RESTAURANT.
AND I AGREE WITH THE RESTAURANT CONCERNS, THAT'S BEEN THE, THAT'S BEEN THE DEATH NOTE.
AND AGAIN, THE CONCEPT OF, WELL NOW LET'S FINISH OUT THE RESTAURANT AND HAVE IT BASICALLY OPERATIONAL.
BUT THE COURSE IS GONE WELL, NOW THE OTHER HALF IS GONE.
SO THIS PROJECT IS NEVER GOING TO SEE THE LIGHT OF DAY AS FAR AS I CAN SEE.
AND, AND THAT'S, THAT'S THE FRUSTRATING WE HEAR ABOUT, WELL, THEY WERE PROJECTING, AND I'M JUST USING NUMBERS, SO YOU KNOW, MATT TRYING NOT TO QUOTE ME TOO HARD, YOU KNOW, 16,000 ROUNDS A YEAR AND THEY ONLY GOT SIX.
WELL, THAT'S PRETTY GOOD CONSIDERING THAT THEY COULDN'T GET FOOD OR BEVERAGES CORRECT.
AND, AND MAYBE THEIR, THEIR, THEIR ANTICIPATION OR ESTIMATES WERE OVERZEALOUS.
I MEAN, WE HEARD ESTIMATES TONIGHT FROM PIRATES BAY, AND I HOPE THEY'RE VERY SUCCESSFUL IN THEIR ESTIMATES, BUT I'M CERTAINLY NOT GONNA HOLD THEIR FEET TO THE FIRE.
AND NEXT YEAR THEY COME AND SAY, WELL, YOU TOLD ME YOU WERE GONNA HAVE 25,000 AND YOU HAD 23 5, THAT IT'S AN ESTIMATE, BUT AGAIN, HALF OF THE OPERATION WASN'T FUNCTIONAL.
SO WHAT DO WE EXPECT ANECDOTALLY, I KNOW INDIVIDUALS WHO PLAYED OUT THERE ON A REGULAR BASIS AND THEY STOPPED PLAYING BECAUSE THEY COULDN'T HAVE SOMETHING TO EAT OR SOMETHING TO DRINK AFTER THEY PLAYED.
AND THEIR COMMENT WAS, AS SOON AS THAT RESTAURANT'S OPENED UP, WE'RE GONNA HAMMER IT HARD AGAIN.
WELL, OKAY, NOW WE'RE GONNA CLOSE THE COURSE AND, AND GET THE RESTAURANT READY.
AGAIN, I'M JUST ANGRY THAT IT'S KIND OF LIKE EVERYTHING WE COULD DO, AND THAT'S A COLLECTIVE WE, OR EVERYTHING THAT MURPHY WAS DEFINITELY IN PLAY ON THIS WHOLE PROCESS.
IF IT COULD GO WRONG, IT WENT WRONG.
IF WE COULD MAKE A DECISION BASED ON INFORMATION AND THE INFORMATION CHANGED, I GOT, I FULLY APPRECIATE AND UNDERSTAND THE STAFF DOES ALL THEY CAN TO PROVIDE US WHAT THEY CAN AT THE TIME.
AND THE NEXT DAY IT COULD BE DIFFERENT.
AND HOW DO THEY GET REAL TIME? AND WE'VE BECOME SUCH AN INSTANT SOCIETY WITH THAT TYPE OF INFORMATION.
BUT AGAIN, YOU KNOW, I HAVE CONSTITUENTS THAT HAVE CONTACTED ME THAT, YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO STAY THE COURSE AND I HAVE CONSTITUENTS CONTACTED ME.
AND I, I JUST DON'T, I JUST DON'T HAVE THE CONFIDENCE.
EVEN IF WE SAID, YEP, WE'RE GONNA GO FORWARD, I DON'T THINK WE CAN DO IT.
I JUST DON'T, UH, THAT'S FRUSTRATING FOR ME.
UH, I'M GONNA, I'M RETIRED, FORMER EMPLOYEE OF, OF THE CITY AND, AND MANY YEARS IN THE BUSINESS AND IT'S LIKE, THAT'S FRUSTRATING TO SIT UP HERE AND NOT HAVE THAT CONFIDENCE THAT WE CAN SUCCEED.
AND, AND IT'S NOT STAFF, STAFF DOES ALL THEY CAN, IT, IT IS JUST FOR WHATEVER REASONS MURPHY IS ALIVE AND WELL, AND, AND THIS, THAT JUST ANGERS ME THAT WE RELATIVELY SIMPLE PROJECT THAT WASN'T SIMPLE.
I'M NOT TRYING TO DIMINISH RIGHT.
A RELATIVELY SIMPLE, SMALL PROJECT AGAIN WITH A MAJOR PROJECT ON THE HORIZON THAT'S, I TELL YOU, WE'RE GONNA, IT'S GONNA BE A TOUGH ROAD.
THAT'S, THAT WAS PART OF THE CONVERSATION.
MAYOR, IF YOU DON'T MIND, THAT WAS PART OF THE CONVERSATION WITH Y'ALL AND WITH THE CITIZENS THAT HAS, THAT HAS BEEN KIND OF THE RUB, RIGHT? IS LIKE WE CONTINUE TO SAY THAT THE ROUNDS WERE GOOD.
WE WERE EXPECTING THAT THEY WERE GOING TO, THE RESTAURANT WAS GOING TO AMPLIFY THE ROUNDS.
AND AS THE RESTAURANT KEPT GETTING DELAYED, IT FURTHER HAMPERED THE ROUNDS GROWING.
LIKE THEY EXPECT, THEY EXPECTED THE ROUNDS TO MORE THAN DOUBLE.
UM, AFTER THE RESTAURANT WAS OPEN BY ITSELF, IT WAS OPERATING AS IT SHOULD.
AND THAT'S, I THINK THE CITIZENS NEED TO KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, WE DIDN'T TALK THROUGH ALL THOSE DETAILS BEFORE, BUT WE HAVE INTERNALLY ABOUT HOW SOME OF THAT WAS, AND THE, THE COMPLICATIONS WITH, WITH THE RESTAURANT WAS HINDERING WHAT WAS GOING ON, UH, WITH THE ROUNDS GROWING TO THE, UH, TO DOUBLING OR TRIPLING WHERE THEY NEEDED THEM TO BE.
AND, AND THAT WOULD BE THE POINT.
6,000 ROUNDS ON A YEAR WITHOUT THE RESTAURANT, WITH THE RESTAURANT, EVEN IF THEY DOUBLED.
OKAY, NOW THEY'RE 12,000, THEY
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ANTICIPATED 16,000 THAT WOULD'VE BEEN IN THE BALLPARK.AND, AND NOT UNREASONABLE TO THINK THAT THERE'D BE A THOUSAND ROUNDS A MONTH.
I MEAN, BUT NOW AT THAT MAYOR, I WILL SHUT UP
WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT THIS ON THE AGENDA FOR THE COUNCIL MEETING, UM, TO MAKE A DECISION, RIGHT? THAT IS CORRECT.
SO WE'LL TAKE ANOTHER COMMENT AND THEN, UM, WE'LL WRAP IT UP.
JUST A COMMENT AND A QUESTION, MAYOR.
UM, I, I, I DON'T THINK THE POINT IS THAT CAN WE MAKE IT WORK? I THINK THE THING IS, DO WE WANNA INVEST ANY ADDITIONAL DOLLARS TO MAKE IT WORK? I THINK THAT'S THE REAL QUESTION.
UM, AND YEAH, THEY'VE BEEN ROADBLOCKS, UM, THE KITCHEN, THE BARREL HITTING AND DECOMMISSIONING IT FOR A WHILE.
UM, SO IT'S NOT THE FACT THAT CAN WE MAKE IT WORK? IS DO WE WANNA INVEST ADDITIONAL DOLLARS TO MAKE IT WORK? UM, SO THAT'S A REAL QUESTION.
AND, UM, WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO ASK, IF WE GO WITH OPTION ONE, ARE WE FOR SURE THAT WE HAVE NO OTHER OBLIGATIONS TO TRU AFTER THIS? DO, DO THEY UNDERSTAND THAT, YOU KNOW, WHETHER WE, IF WE CHOOSE OPTION ONE, WE DECOMMISSION AND, AND WE'RE DONE.
LIKE, DO THEY UNDERSTAND THAT? AND WE HAVE NO FURTHER OBLIGATION TO THEM.
THEY, THEY HAVE SEEN WHAT'S IN FRONT OF YOU? UM, I HAVE VERIFIED EVERYTHING IN TERMS OF THE, UH, PRIOR OPERATIONAL COSTS WITH THEM, GOT VERIFICATION FROM THEM.
UM, AND YOU KNOW, TO THE EXTENT THAT I CAN SPEAK FOR SOMEONE ELSE, I WOULD SAY YES.
BECAUSE I, I JUST DON'T WANT ANY SURPRISES THAT WE'VE HAD FROM BILL, UH, BAYTOWN ONE.
UM, THOSE ARE THE ONLY TWO OF MY, MY COMMENT.
AND THEN OF COURSE THIS QUESTION.
RIGHT? THANK YOU FOR THIS, UH, PRESENTATION.
THANK YOU FOR THE INFORMATION.
UM, YOU CAN SEE YOU HAVE BEEN HEARD AND WE WILL COME BACK AND MAKE A DECISION ON THIS DURING THE COUNCIL MEETING.
OTHER THAN THAT, SINCE WE'VE ALREADY HANDLED EVERYTHING IN THE WORK SESSION AGENDA, I'M GONNA ADJOURN THIS MEETING AT 6:05 PM THANK YOU.