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GO AHEAD AND TAKE THEIR LUNCH TO THEIR GIRLFRIEND.[1. CALL TO ORDER AND ROLL CALL]
UH, TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING FOR MARCH 18TH, 2025.IT'S 5:01 PM AND, UH, WE'LL CALL THIS MEETING THE ORDER.
UH, LESLIE, CAN YOU CALL ROLL? YES.
[a. Consider the election of a Chairperson and a Vice-chairperson of the Planning and Zoning Commission in accordance with Section 2-322 of the Code of Ordinances, Baytown, Texas.]
FOR TONIGHT, UH, ITEM TWO A IS THE ELECTION AND UH, IT'S TO CONSIDER THE ELECTION OF THE CHAIRPERSON AND THE VICE CHAIRMAN.SHOULD I VICE CHAIRMAN PERSON? NOT CHAIRMAN.
UH, OF THE PLANNING ZONING COMMISSION IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE SECTION 2 3 2 2 OF THE CODE OF ORDINANCES FOR BAYTOWN, TEXAS.
UM, I HAVE A QUESTION BEFORE WE GET STARTED WITH THAT.
I KNOW, UM, WHEN WE DO THIS AT THE BEGINNING, IS IT NECESSARY THAT WE SWITCH AROUND RIGHT AWAY ONCE THE VOTE IS FINALIZED? FOR BOTH THE, FOR BOTH THE CHAIR AND THE VICE CHAIR? OKAY.
I, I DON'T KNOW THAT IT'S SUPER IMPORTANT, BUT I MEAN, ORDINARILY WE WOULD SWITCH CHAIRS, UM, AND PUT THE CHAIR IN THE MIDDLE.
SO ASSUMING THERE'S A CHANGE AT THAT POINT.
I, I JUST, I SAY THAT BECAUSE IT'S, UM, SOMETIMES WHEN THAT PERSON, WHEN A PERSON TAKES OVER, IT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT.
SO THEY HAVE TO, THAT'S ONE THING WHEN YOU'RE WATCHING EVERY MONTH, IT'S NOTHING THING WHEN YOU'RE IN THAT SEAT.
SO THAT'S WHY I WAS WONDERING IF MAYBE 'CAUSE THAT WAY MAYBE IT GIVES THEM A CHANCE TO, WITHIN THAT MONTH TO GET TRAINED ON WHAT, WHAT THE, THE PROTOCOLS ARE.
OH, ARE, ARE YOU ASKING THEN IF THE CHANGE HAPPENS IMMEDIATELY? I'M ASKING THAT IF WE TAKE THE VOTE TONIGHT YES.
AND WE ELECT THE NEW, UH, CHAIRPERSON, UHHUH
YOU KNOW, I'M, SOME PEOPLE MIGHT HAVE, IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF A CHALLENGE SOMETIMES WHEN NOW YOU HAVE TO LIKE KIND OF PLAY CATCH UP.
'CAUSE YOU'VE BEEN JUST KIND OF LISTENING ALONG FOR THE LAST YEAR.
SO I UNDERSTAND NOT, I'M NOT SAYING JUST YOU RICK, I MEAN I KNOW I GET IT.
I'VE BEEN IN THAT AND I DON'T THINK IT'S SOMETIMES A LITTLE FAIR TO THE PERSON WHO JUST GOT ELECTED.
I'M GONNA LOOK TO OUR LEGAL COUNSELOR FOR AN ANSWER ON THAT ONE.
NORMALLY WHEN YOU VOTED IN, YOU TAKE OVER.
IF YOU STEP IN THAT THEY, UH, CHAIR, YOU KNOW, THEIR, THEIR TERM IS OVER.
DOESN'T OUR CITY ORDINANCE DICTATE THAT THIS WAS SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN IN JANUARY, BEGINNING OF A NEW COMMISSION YEAR? YES.
BUT UM, WE DID NOT HAVE A MEETING IN JANUARY AND THEN, UH, WE MISSED THE, WE MISSED IT LAST MONTH.
SO THE ANSWER TO THE QUESTION WAS, I TAKE OVER ON TO BE INCARNATE WITH THE CITY ORDINANCE UPON THE VOTE YES.
YEAH, I HAVE A QUESTION ON THAT THOUGH.
UM, BUT DOESN'T IT SAY THAT WE ACTUALLY DECIDE OUR OWN RULES AND PROCEDURES THAT HAS BEEN DONE? IT IS CODIFIED AS CODE NOW? NO, NO.
THE, THE COMMISSION THEMSELVES.
AND TYPICALLY THERE WOULD BE LIKE A DELIBERATION COMMUNICATION AND THE, THE, THE COMMISSION ITSELF THAT WAS ESTABLISHES THEIR OWN RULES OF PROCEDURE.
THEY DID THAT IN 2003 AND IT WAS ADOPTED BY CITY COUNCIL AND CODIFIED INTO OUR CITY CODE THAT THAT WAS ALREADY DONE.
IT, IT DOESN'T HAPPEN ON A REGULAR BASIS UNLESS THERE'S A CHANGE THAT NEEDS TO BE MADE.
BUT DOESN'T IT ALSO SAY THAT WE ARE AT THE LIBERTY TO DETERMINE IF THAT CHANGE IS TO BE MADE? YES.
BUT THAT CHANGE HAS NOT BEEN MADE.
SO IF YOU WANT TO BRING UP A CHANGE, YOU ARE WELCOME AS A, AS A BOARD TO DO SO.
BUT I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY A CONVERSATION BETTER HAD AT THE END OF THE MEETING BECAUSE THAT'S NOT, THAT'S NOT PART OF THE ELECTION PROCESS.
THIS IS MERELY ELECTION OF OFFICERS.
IF THERE APPEARS TO BE A CHANGE OF THE RULES OR PROCEDURES THAT NEED TO HAPPEN, THAT'S A SEPARATE CONVERSATION.
AND CAN WE DO THAT UNDER THE DIRECTOR'S REPORT? THE EXECUTIVE EXECUTIVE? NO, I MEAN IT'S, UM, IT HASN'T BEEN NOTICED THAT WE WERE GONNA DISCUSS THAT TODAY.
NOT, NOT NECESSARILY THAT WE'RE DISCUSSING A CHANGE, BUT, UH, THOUGHTS ABOUT, HEY, CAN WE, CAN WE MAKE, CAN WE TALK LIKE SCHEDULE CHANGES OR A DISCUSSION? WE
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CAN SCHEDULE DISCUSSION PROBABLY A BETTER WAY TO SAY IT.OR WOULD YOU RATHER WE WAIT TILL NEXT MONTH? IS THERE SOMETHING THAT YOU WANT TO BRING UP TO THE GROUP? WELL, I MEAN, IN THIS PARTICULAR SITUATION, IT ALMOST SEEMS FITTING BECAUSE THERE IS A QUESTION OF WHAT THE RULES AND PROCEDURES COULD BE IN THIS PARTICULAR, PARTICULAR SITUATION AS WELL AS WHETHER THAT, AND SO IT WOULD SEEM AS IF THAT WE WOULD HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO DECIDE WHETHER NOW OR IN THE FUTURE WHETHER IT HAPPENS.
I'M NOT SAYING THAT WE NEED TO MAKE THAT DECISION NOW, BUT I BELIEVE THAT HE BROUGHT UP A PRETTY INTERESTING QUESTION AND IT WOULD BE US THAT WOULD MAKE THAT DECISION.
MY, MY WHOLE POINT WAS JUST, UM, IT'S HARD.
I DON'T WANT ANYBODY TO, TO, TO FEEL WHEN TO BE IN THAT POSITION AND KIND OF BE LIKE, WHOA.
LIKE WHAT DO I DO NEXT? BECAUSE MAN, WE HAVE PEOPLE WHO'S PRETTY BIG LIVELIHOOD IS ON SOME OF THESE THINGS ARE PRETTY IMPORTANT TO PEOPLE ON HERE AND, AND ANYWAY, IT DOESN'T MATTER.
WELL, I THINK ALL OF THESE PEOPLE HAVE SAT ON THIS ENOUGH TO KNOW HOW, HOW THE MEETINGS RUN.
SO I THINK WE'RE KILLING A DEAD HORSE HERE.
SO TWO, TWO THINGS THERE JUST TO KIND OF HOPEFULLY MAKE YOU FEEL A LITTLE BIT BETTER.
NUMBER ONE, UM, I GAVE RICK A, UH, A, UH, A SCRIPT FOR TONIGHT SO THAT THAT HELPS OUT QUITE A LOT.
SECOND, UM, STAFF IS HERE TO ASSIST IF THERE'S ANY CONFUSION.
UH, YOU GUYS HAVE NOTICED I'M NOT SHY ABOUT JUMPING IN.
SO, UM, WE'LL, WE'LL MAKE SURE THIS RUNS SMOOTHLY.
IN TERMS OF ANY OTHER CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THE RULES, UM, I THINK LET'S, LET'S TALK ABOUT IT A LITTLE BIT.
NOT THE RULES THEMSELVES, BUT LET'S TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT PROCESS UNDER MY REPORT AT THE END OF THE MEETING.
SO FOR NOW, UM, WE HAVE AN ITEM, THE AGENDA ITEM TO CONSIDER ELECTION.
I'M GONNA THROW IT BACK TO YOUR CURRENT CHAIR, MR. CHAIRMAN, I'D LIKE TO NOMINATE DONNA WIN FREE FOR FOR CHAIR.
I'LL SECOND THAT CALL THE VOTE CALL FOR ANY OTHER, ANY OTHER NOMINATIONS.
OKAY, SO I CALL FOR NOMINATIONS AND ANY OTHER NOMINATIONS.
ANY ADDITIONAL NOMINATIONS? CALL THE VOTE.
OKAY, SO, SO RICK CAN FINISH OUT THIS AGENDA ITEM.
I'M GET THE VICE CHAIR AND THEN WE CAN SWITCH SEATS, WHATEVER NEEDS TO HAPPEN.
I'D LIKE TO NOMINATE TAMMY FOR OUR VICE CHAIR.
ANY OTHERS? ANY OTHERS? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.
DONNA AND RICK, DO YOU GUYS WANNA SWITCH FOR? YEP.
AND YOU CAN, I HAVE A LOT GOING ON, SO I'M GOOD.
YOU CAN HAND OFF YOUR SCRIPT TO DONNA.
SHE HAS A I'LL LEAVE THE PEN HERE FOR YOU.
YOU MAKE SURE I GET THAT BACK.
I'M GONNA KEEP THE, UH, THE TROPICS SEAT IS AND DENISE'S QUICK ON THE DRAW CHANGING OUT THE, UH, THE NAME PLATE.
THAT'S TOTALLY THANK YOU EVERYONE.
I GUESS, OKAY, SO DONNA, IF YOU WOULD TAKE UP ON, UH, ITEM THREE PLEASE.
ITEM THREE IS CITIZEN'S COMMENTS.
THE PURPOSE OF CITIZEN'S COMMENTS IS TO GIVE ALL INTERESTED CITIZENS THE RIGHT TO EXPRESS THEIR VIEWS.
EVERYONE DESIRING TO SPEAK SHOULD EITHER HAVE SIGNED THE APPROPRIATE LIST IN THE FOYER OR EMAIL THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT PRIOR TO THE POSTED TIME OF THIS MEETING.
EACH CITIZEN SHALL GIVE HIS OR HER NAME AND ADDRESS IN ORDER TO PROVIDE A PROPER RECORD OF THESE COMMENTS.
THE RULES ALLOW ONE PERSON, EACH PERSON, ONE MINUTE TO SPEAK.
A CITIZEN MAY PASS HIS OR HER TIME TO ANOTHER PERSON WHO HAS REQUESTED TO ADDRESS THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.
HOWEVER, NO CITIZEN'S REMARKS SHALL EXCEED THREE MINUTES IN TOTAL.
EITHER THE ONE MINUTE OR THE THREE MINUTE LIMIT MAY BE EXTENDED BY A MAJORITY VOTE OF THE COMMISSION.
I ENCOURAGE EVERYONE TO BE AS BRIEF AND TO THE POINT AS POSSIBLE.
PLEASE KEEP IN MIND THE COMMISSION CANNOT DISCUSS OR DELIBERATE ON ITEMS FOR WHICH PUBLIC NOTICE HAS NOT BEEN GIVEN ON THIS AGENDA.
ISSUES THAT CANNOT BE REFERRED TO ADMINISTRATION FOR ACTION MAY BE CONSIDERED FOR PLACEMENT ON THE AGENDA OF A FUTURE PLANNING AND ZONING AGENDA.
AND WE HAVE ONE PERSON SIGNED UP TO SPEAK CALLED MICHAEL SAM, MIGUEL TO THE PODIUM
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HERE.I, I THINK, I THINK HE'S HERE FOR ONE OF THE ITEMS. UH, CITIZEN, HE SIGNED UP ON CITIZEN COMMENT.
SIR, ARE YOU HERE FOR YOUR REONE ITEM? SO HE'S SIGNED UP ON THE WRONG SHEET, BUT, SO LET'S HOLD WE'LL, WE'LL HOLD OFF UNTIL WE GET TO YOUR ITEM.
THAT'S AMAZING THERE BEING NO ONE ELSE DESIRING TO SPEAK.
THIS CONCLUDES THE CITIZENS' COMMENT PORTION OF THE AGENDA.
[a. Consider approving the meeting minutes of the February 18, 2025, Planning and Zoning Commission regular meeting.]
MOVE TO ITEM FOUR A.CONSIDER APPROVING THE MINUTE MEETING MINUTES OF THE MARCH 18TH, 2025, PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION, REGULAR MEETING FE FEBRUARY.
OH YEAH, IT'S, UH, THE DO BOTH, I KEPT AB STAYING ON ONE.
SO IT WILL BE FEBRUARY 18TH, 18TH 18TH.
DO I HAVE A MOTION? I MOVE APPROVAL SECOND.
ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? OKAY, I'D JUST LIKE A LITTLE POINT OF CLARIFICATION.
SO WE ARE ONLY DISCUSSING RIGHT NOW FOUR A? CORRECT.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF APPROVING THE MINUTES FEBRUARY 18TH.
ALL OPPOSED, ANY ABSTENTIONS PASSES FOUR
[b. Consider approving the meeting minutes of the February 18, 2025, Planning and Zoning Commission Training Session.]
B CONSIDER APPROVING THE MINUTES OF THE FEB 18TH 2025 PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION TRAINING SESSION.UM, BEFORE WE APPROVE THESE MINUTES, I DO HAVE SOME CONCERNS ABOUT THEIR ACCURACY.
I THINK THAT'LL COME, THE QUESTIONS WILL COME AFTER THE MOTION.
SO, UM, WELL THE, THE FIRST ONE, I DON'T BELIEVE THAT COMMISSIONER LAREDO WAS STILL HERE FOR THAT TRAINING, CORRECT? IT WASN'T, YEAH.
AND SO IT DOESN'T ACCURATELY REFLECT THAT.
AND UM, ALSO THE, THERE'S A COUPLE OF PORTIONS WITH THE, UM, PLANNING DIRECTOR, MARTIN RENER SPOKE ABOUT THE CHANGES OF THE NEW UNIFIED LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.
THERE WAS ACTUALLY A DISCUSSION PRIOR TO THAT, UM, THAT WAS ABOUT RESPONSIBILITIES AND EXPECTATIONS AND, UM, RULES OF PROCEDURE.
AND SO I'D JUST LIKE A LITTLE BIT MORE, UM, I BELIEVE THAT THE MINUTES SHOULD BE ACCURATELY REFLECTING OF WHAT THE DISCUSSION WAS AT THAT TIME.
UM, AND YOU, JUST FOR A LITTLE BIT OF CLARIFICATION, LEGAL AND ALSO MARTIN, UM, YOU STATED THAT THE, THAT THEY WERE ADOPTED IN 2003 AND I BELIEVE THAT'S THE DATE.
AND IN ADDITION TO THE CHAPTER TWO, DIVISION THREE SECTION, IS IT LOCATED SOMEWHERE ELSE IN THE ORDINANCE? NO, THAT'S, THAT'S WHERE IT IS.
SO THAT'S, UM, SO BASED OFF OF THE, WHAT WAS PRESENTED TO US, IT APPEARS THOUGH THAT THE, THE TRAINING AS OPPOSED TO IT BEING THE PROCEDURES OF WHAT WE'VE ADOPTED, UM, THERE WAS ADDITION OF THAT WAS MORE STAFF'S OPINION OF EXPECTATIONS.
I, SO IF I, IF I COULD CHECK THAT THAT'S UP TO YOU GUYS TO DECIDE HOW YOU WANT THAT WORDED.
SO, UM, SO ON TWO A I HAD WANTED TO ADD, UM, UM, OUR CITY MANAGER AND OUR MAYOR CAME IN AND TALKED ABOUT WHAT IS THIS IS, IS SAID HERE AND ABOUT MEETING DECORUM WITH THAT COVER WHAT YOU, SO THAT ACTUALLY WOULD, UM, IN, IN THAT FIRST SECTION, UM, WITH WHERE JASON REYNOLDS AND, UM, HAD ADDRESSED AND WHAT HAVE YOU, UM, REGARDING THE TREATMENT OF STAFF WITH PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.
I'M TALKING ABOUT THE SECOND PARAGRAPH.
PLANNING DIRECTOR, MARTIN SCRIBNER SPOKE ABOUT CHANGES OF THE NEW ULDC OR UNIFIED.
SO THE MAJORITY OF OUR MEETING WITH THAT DISCUSSION WAS NOT SPECIFICALLY ABOUT UPDATES OF THE ULDC.
IT WAS ACTUALLY ABOUT, UM, EXPECTATIONS, RULES OF ORDER AND WHAT HAVE YOU, WHICH IS NOT NECESSARILY SPECIFIC LIKE IT'S OH, SO YOU, YOU, YOU PERHAPS WOULD LIKE TO HAVE ADDED, YOU SPOKE ABOUT THE ULDC, CORRECT.
AND ROBERT'S RULES OF ORDER, CORRECT? WELL, UM, THE PROCEDURAL GUIDELINES AS PRESENTED BY THE CITY, YES.
AND, AND CAN I SAY SOMETHING HERE? YES, SIR.
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YOU KNOW, THIS WAS A TRAINING SESSION AND NO ACTION WAS TAKEN.NORMALLY MINUTES ARE, UM, RECORDS OF THE ACTION THAT'S TAKEN BY THE COMMISSION BOARD OR CITY COUNCIL OR WHATEVER.
UM, YOU KNOW, LOCAL ENTITY IS WHATEVER PUBLIC ENTITY IS RUNNING THE MEETING.
THIS IS MORE, UH, FOR YOUR OWN NOTES ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED.
I MEAN, NO ACTION WAS TAKEN IF YOU, Y'ALL CAN CHANGE IT ANY WAY YOU WANT TO AND APPROVE IT ANY ANY WAY YOU WANT TO, BUT IT, IT, THERE WASN'T ANY ACTION TAKEN IN THAT I, SO I, I AGREE MM-HMM
AND WITH THAT, BUT IN READING THESE MINUTES, IT, SO WOULD YOU CONSIDER THE FIRST SEVERAL SLIDES IN THE PRESENTATION OF THE MEETING TO BE ULDC UPDATES? ARE YOU, ARE YOU ASKING ME? I I MEAN FROM A LEGAL PERSPECTIVE, IS THAT, WOULD THAT BE CONSIDERED ULDC UPDATES EVEN THOUGH IT WAS RESPONSIBILITIES OF THE COMMITTEE? I MEAN, Y'ALL, THE COMMISS, I MEAN, Y'ALL CAN PUT WHATEVER YOU WANT IN THOSE.
THOSE ARE TRAINING, UH, NOTES, BASICALLY TRAINING MINUTES.
I DON'T REALLY HAVE A LEGAL OPINION OF WHAT YOU WANT TO PUT IN THERE.
SO WHAT, WOULD YOU BE SATISFIED IF IT SAID ROBERT'S RULES OF ORDER AND PROCEDURES? PROCEDURES? NO, JUST THE OVERVIEW OF COMMISSION RESPONSIBILITIES AND PROCEDURES, BEHAVIORAL EXPECTATIONS BY THE OPINION OF THE CITY.
SO WE JUST WANT SHORT, SWEET TO THE POINT.
CAN WE, I MEAN, RESPONSIBILITIES OF THE COMMISSION.
RESPONSIBILITIES OF THE COMMISSION AND ROBERT'S RULES OF ORDER.
W WELL, WE DIDN'T ADOPT ROBERT'S RULES OF ORDER.
WE DID DISCUSS IT, BUT THAT'S FINE.
WE, WE CAN SAY THAT WE DISCUSSED ROBERT'S RULES OF ORDER.
AREN'T YOU GLAD YOU THROUGH IT? OKAY.
SO THE FINAL SENTENCE IS, UM, RESPONSIBILITIES AND COMMISSION RESPONSIBILITIES AND ROBERT'S RULES OF ORDER IN ADDITION TO THE ULDC UPDATE RIGHT AT THE END OF THAT SENTENCE.
I MAKE A MOTION, MOTION THAT WE CAN APPROVE ITEM FOUR B WITH THE COMMENTS ADDED.
[a. Consider approving San Jacinto Mall Replat No 3, approximately 103.75 acres located southwest of the intersection of Garth Road and Interstate Highway 10. ]
EIGHT PLATS CONSIDER APPROVING SAN JACINTO MALL.RELA NUMBER THREE, APPROXIMATELY 103.75 ACRES LOCATED SOUTHWEST OF THE INTERSECTION OF GARTH ROAD AND INTERSTATE HIGHWAY 10 AS STAFF.
TO SUMMARIZE THE ITEM, GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS.
MY NAME IS LAIA SALEM PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.
THIS IS THE LOCATION OF, UH, THE SAN JACINTO MALL ON THE, UH, SOUTHWEST CORNER OF GARTH ROAD AND ITAL.
AND THIS IS THE, UM, REPL OF THE SAN JACINTO MALL.
SO, UM, BEFORE YOU ON AUGUST, 2024, WE BROUGHT THIS, UH, PLAT TO YOUR ATTENTION.
UH, IT WAS PLATTED AS ONE BIG LOT AND NOW THE APPLICANT IS COMING TO SUBDIVIDE THE, UM, THE PARCEL INTO FIVE DIFFERENT LOTS.
KEEPING THE TWO RIGHT OF WAYS AS IS.
THERE IS NO CHANGES IN THE, UM, THE PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT OR THE, UH, DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WITH THE DEVELOPER OR ANYTHING OF THAT.
AND STAFF SUPPORT THE, UM, THE REPL AND RECOMMENDS APPROVAL.
SO WHY ARE THEY DOING THIS? I MEAN, IT'S ALREADY BEEN PLANTED, SO WHY ARE THEY DOING THIS? FOR THEIR OWN, UM, CONVENIENCE TO SUBDIVIDE THE, THE PROPERTY INTO DIFFERENT LOTS SO THEY CAN SELL THOSE LOTS IN THE FUTURE.
SOME, SOME OF THE, UM, PROPOSED TENANTS OR THE TENANTS THAT THEY'RE NEGOTIATING WITH WANT TO HAVE THEIR OWN LOT, UM, SECTION OUT.
UM, IT, IT DOESN'T CHANGE WHAT'S ON THE GROUND.
IT JUST ALLOWS THEM TO, TO SORT OF SPLIT IT UP DIFFERENTLY.
IT'S STILL GONNA BE UNDER THE SAME DEVELOPMENT THOUGH.
SO THEY WANNA OWN THE SQUARE FOOTAGE YOUR BUILDING SITS ON, IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? NOT NECESSARILY.
UH, WE, WE DON'T KNOW THE SPECIFICS OF IT.
IT'S KIND OF LIKE A, THAT WAS NOT SURE SITE.
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IT, IT'S KIND OF IN THE SHOPPING CENTER AND YOU SEE A POPEYE'S ON THE SAME PROPERTY.THEY JUST SEPARATED IT OUT FOR POPEYE'S OR CHICK-FIL-A IN FRONT OF CON'S AT LOW, THE EXCON.
UM, YEAH, EXCON YOU CAN IF YOU'D LIKE.
I WAS JUST GONNA COMMENT AS I UNDERSTOOD, YOU KNOW, AND ON THIS PROPERTY BEFORE IT WAS TORN DOWN, MACY'S ACTUALLY OWNED THE SITE THAT THEIR STORE WAS ON, CORRECT? YES.
SO THAT'S, I I UNDERSTAND THAT'S PART OF THE REASON I, I, SARAH'S HERE FROM THE YEAH.
I'M SARAH HARLAND, PLEASE, UH, STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AND STATE YOUR YES, I AM SARAH HARLAND.
MY ADDRESS IS 38 WIMBERLEY WAY IN CONROE, TEXAS.
I'M WITH KIMLEY HORN, THE CIVIL ENGINEER, UM, REPRESENTING FIDELIS FOR THIS PROPERTY.
THE MAIN REASON BUT FOR DIVIDING THE LOTS, AS MARTIN MENTIONED, IS SOME OF THE TENANTS REQUIRE SOME OF THEIR, THEIR OWN LOT.
UM, AND THERE'S ALSO SOME DESCRIPTIONS FOR THAT NEED TO GO WITHIN OUR SPECIFIC LEASES ABOUT THE RIGHTS THAT THE DIFFERENT TENANTS HAVE TO DIFFERENT SECTIONS OF THE SHOPPING CENTER.
SO FOR EXAMPLE, IF A TENANT ON THE LOT SHOWN RIGHT HERE, I CAN GO UP.
WE'RE SAYING THAT THIS AREA RIGHT HERE IS A LOT, UM, LOT, I THINK IT'S THREE THREE, THAT ALL OF THE TENANTS WITHIN THAT LOT CAN SHARE PARKING, SHARE DIFFERENT THINGS, BUT THEY DON'T HAVE TO HAVE THOSE REQUIREMENTS FOR TENANTS ON LOT SAY, UM, ONE OVER HERE.
SO IT JUST KIND OF HELPS US DIVIDE UP LEGALLY THE WHOLE DISTRICT.
IT'S NOT TO SELL OFF THE LOTS, IT'S MORE JUST TO JUST HELP WITH DESCRIPTIONS OF WHO HAS RIGHTS TO WHAT AREA OF THE SITE.
I NOTICE PORTION OF LONE STAR DRIVE AVENUE, LIKE THAT WAS IN THE PREVIOUS PLAT AND IT'S NO LONGER YEAH, IT'S, IT'S RIGHT HERE.
NO, IT DOESN'T, IT IT CONNECTED ALL THE WAY THROUGH.
NO, IT IN THE PREVIOUS, IT PART OF IT'S THE RESPONSIBILITY PART OF IT'S FIDELIS.
THE, THE OTHER, THE OTHER PLAT ACTUALLY HAD A NOTE THAT SAID THAT IT WOULD CONNECT, BUT THAT THE, UM, THAT THE FINAL, UM, THE FINAL, UH, UM, ALIGNMENT, WELL HAD NOT BEEN YET, YET BEEN, UM, DECIDED.
SO, OKAY, BECAUSE I WENT BACK AND LOOKED AT IT AND I REMEMBERED SEEING IT.
SO THAT'S WHY THAT CONFUSED ME SO THAT IT WASN'T, OKAY, THANK YOU.
ANY, ANYONE ELSE? A MOTION TO APPROVE? SECOND.
ANY OPPOSED? NO ONE OPPOSED ANY ABSTENTION? YEAH, I SAID ONE OPPOSED, ANY ABSTENTIONS? MOTION CARRIES ITEM FIVE A.
I WILL READ THE FOLLOWING ONE TIME.
AND IT APPLIES TO ALL PUBLIC HEARINGS.
PUBLIC HEARINGS TODAY ARE HELD FOR THE PURPOSE OF GIVING ALL INTERESTED PERSONS THE RIGHT TO EXPRESS THEIR VIEWS REGARDING THE SUBJECT OF PUBLIC HEARINGS.
EVERYONE DESIRING TO BE A PART OF TODAY'S HEARING SHOULD HAVE EITHER SIGNED THE APPROPRIATE LIST IN THE FOYER OR EMAILED THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT PRIOR TO THE POSTED TIME OF THIS MEETING.
EACH PARTICIPANT SHALL GIVE HIS OR HER NAME AND ADDRESS IN ORDER TO PROVIDE A PROPER RECORD OF THIS HEARING.
THE RULES ALLOW EACH PERSON THREE MINUTES TO PRESENT INFORMATION.
HOWEVER, I ENCOURAGE EVERYONE TO BE AS BRIEF AND TO THE POINT AS POSSIBLE.
IF YOU ARE A GROUP OF PERSONS WISHING TO ADDRESS THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION ON THE SAME SUBJECT, PLEASE SELECT A SPOKESPERSON TO PRESENT THE INFORMATION.
AND IF ANYONE HAS ANY QUESTIONS, PLEASE DIRECT THEM TO ME.
[a. Conduct a public hearing and consider a request concerning the proposed text amendment to Chapter 111, Unified Land Development Code (ULDC) of the Baytown Code of Ordinances to revise Divisions 2.1, 2.2, 2.3, 3.3, 3.4 and 3.6 of the ULDC for general corrections in consistency with the previous code and the newly adopted code.]
A IS ZONING.CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDER A REQUEST CONCERNING THE PROPOSED TEXT AMENDMENT TO CHAPTER ONE 11 UNIFIED LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE ULDC OF THE BAYTOWN CODE OF ORDINANCES TO REVISE DIVISIONS 2.1, 2.2, 2.3, 3.3, 3.4, AND 3.6 OF THE ULDC FOR GENERAL CORRECTIONS AND CONSISTENCY WITH THE PREVIOUS CODE AND THE NEWLY ADOPTED CODE, IT IS NOW 5:25 PM AND I CALL THIS PUBLIC HEARING CONCERNING THAT PROPOSED TEXT AMENDMENT TO ORDER.
MARTIN, THANK YOU FOR SUMMARIZING.
UM, FOR THE RECORD, MARTIN SCRIBNER PLANNING DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.
UM, SO AS YOU KNOW, UM, WE DID ADOPT, UH, AS A CITY THE NEW 20 20 20 20 5-YEAR-OLD DC
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BACK IN SEPTEMBER OF, OF THIS PAST YEAR.THAT BECAME EFFECTIVE ON JANUARY 1ST.
UM, AND WE ALSO, WE STARTED, AND WE, WE KIND OF WARNED EVERYBODY, I SAID, WE ARE GONNA BE DOING SEVERAL CLEANUP AMENDMENTS AS WE GO, PROBABLY OVER THE NEXT YEAR OR TWO.
WE'LL BE MAKING SURE THAT THAT 400 PLUS PAGE DOCUMENT IS AS, UM, AS CLOSE TO WHAT WE HAD INTENDED AS POSSIBLE, INCLUDING SOME SIMPLE THINGS, INCONSISTENCIES, TYPOS, UM, MISSING INFORMATION.
SO TONIGHT WE ARE, UH, WE DID HAVE THE FIRST CLAIM OF AMENDMENT BACK YOU GUYS SAW IN NOVEMBER.
IT WAS ADOPTED BY CITY COUNCIL IN DECEMBER AND BECAME EFFECTIVE WITH THE FULL DOCUMENT ON JANUARY 1ST.
SO TONIGHT, UM, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SOME MORE OF THESE SORT OF INCONSISTENCIES AND CLEANUP ITEMS. UM, SOME OTHER THINGS THAT, SOME LITTLE ITEMS WHERE WE SAW THIS EITHER DOESN'T WORK QUITE THE WAY WE EXPECTED IT TO, OR IT MAYBE JUST ISN'T WRITTEN QUITE.
THERE WERE SOME EXPECTATIONS THAT THAT MISSED THE MARK.
UM, SO I'M GONNA GO THROUGH THOSE TONIGHT ONE AT A TIME.
I'M GONNA GO THROUGH KIND OF QUICKLY, BUT IF ANYBODY HAS A QUESTION ABOUT A SPECIFIC ITEM, IT'S PROBABLY EASIEST TO GO AHEAD AND INTERRUPT ME.
UM, AND SO IF YOU'D LIKE, I'LL PAUSE BETWEEN EACH ONE TO ALLOW ANYBODY TO, UH, TO ASK A QUESTION.
UM, BUT OTHERWISE I'LL KEEP GOING 'CAUSE THERE'S QUITE A FEW OF THESE.
YOU WILL SEE MORE OF THESE, UH, COMING UP.
WE DID HAVE A LONGER LIST, BUT WE DECIDED THIS WAS A LITTLE MORE DIGESTIBLE AND THE OTHERS ACTUALLY NEEDED A LITTLE BIT MORE DISCUSSION FROM STAFF TO KIND OF FIGURE OUT WHERE WE WERE GOING WITH THOSE ITEMS. ITEMS. SO, UM, YOU'LL SEE IN YOUR STAFF REPORT, THESE ARE LISTED OUT ONE AT A TIME.
SO I'LL GO THROUGH THEM, UH, IN HOPEFULLY IN THAT ORDER.
SO, UM, THE FIRST ONE IS IN THE ZONING DISTRICT'S TABLE.
UM, THERE IS, THIS IS TABLE 2.1, THREE DASH ONE.
UM, THERE IS UNDER MIXED RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT TYPE.
WE'RE REMOVING INFILL AS A DEVELOPMENT TYPE.
AND THEN WE'RE ADDING INFILL AS A DEVELOPMENT TYPE TO ALTERNATIVE RESIDENTIAL.
AND REALLY AS WE LOOKED AT IT, UM, THAT HAD BEEN THE WAY WE HAD STAFF IT ORIGINALLY SAID WE WANTED TO DO THIS BECAUSE IT JUST, IT ENDS UP BEING MORE APPROPRIATE THAT WAY.
THOSE DEVELOPMENT TYPES ARE APPROPRIATE, MORE APPROPRIATE, UM, IN THIS, THIS FASHION INSTEAD OF THE WAY THEY WERE IN THE CODE OR ARE IN THE CODE.
WHEN WE FIRST DISCUSSED INFILL, WE TALKED ABOUT IT BEING SMALL, LOTS IN BETWEEN OTHER THINGS.
AND I HAD THE UNDERSTAND WE MEANT EVEN WHERE BUSINESSES ARE NOT JUST IN RESIDENTIAL.
IS THAT NOT THE CASE? 'CAUSE WE TALKED ABOUT BAYWAY SPECIFICALLY.
DO YOU RECALL THAT CONVERSATION? UM, SO THEY ARE IN THE, UH, ESTABLISHED NEIGHBORHOOD, YES.
BUT THEY ARE, UM, MORE INTO THE, UM, UNDER THE AR AND THE, UM, THE
SO YOU SPECIFICALLY TALKED ABOUT THE PARKING LOT, UH, BEHIND MARKET SQUARE, HOW THAT COULD BE INFILLED WITH APARTMENTS.
'CAUSE WE WERE TALKING AT THE TIME OF HOW TO BRING RESIDENTIAL DOWN THERE.
SO I IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO WHEN WE WERE DISCUSSING? YES, SORT OF.
BUT WE ALSO TALKED ABOUT BYWAY.
YEAH, IT HAD BUSINESSES AND RESIDENTIAL MIXED.
UH, OBVIOUSLY THE PIECE OF THE CHART THAT I PUT ON THE SCREEN DOESN'T INCLUDE THAT SECTION.
SO NOT HAVING THAT IN FRONT OF ME.
I I, I DON'T WANNA GIVE YOU THE WRONG INFORMATION.
SO, UM, AND TO THIS POINT, WE'VE BEEN ADMINISTERING THE CODE FOR ABOUT TWO AND A HALF MONTHS AND WE HAVEN'T HAD THAT QUESTION COME UP.
SO, UM, BUT IF YOU'D LIKE, I CAN REPORT BACK TO YOU GUYS ON THE NEXT, UH, AT THE NEXT MEETING, WHETHER THAT WAS THE CASE OR NOT.
I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THIS.
I JUST MISUNDERSTOOD WHAT WE HAD TALKED ABOUT BEFORE, WHAT IT SAYS NOW.
SO JUST THESE TWO MINOR CHANGES.
UM, THE NEXT CHANGE WAS TO REDUCE REAR SETBACKS FOR MANUFACTURED HOMES IN THE AR DISTRICT TO NINE FEET.
THIS IS SOMETHING WE'VE ACTUALLY BEEN TALKING ABOUT AS STAFF FOR A COUPLE YEARS NOW.
AND WE HAD HOPED IT GOTTEN INCORPORATED INTO THE, INTO THE, UM, U DC UPDATE, BUT IT DID NOT.
THIS IS, UH, MERELY THIS IS, THIS IS A PRACTICAL MATTER.
UM, OUR MINIMUM LOT SIZES ARE 100 FEET, LOT DEPTHS ARE 100 FEET.
UM, AND THE SETBACKS FOR, UM, FOR RESIDENTIAL ARE 15 FOOT IN THE FRONT, 10 FOOT IN THE REAR.
THAT LEAVES YOU 75 FEET STANDARD.
UH, MANUFACTURED HOME IS 76 FEET LONG.
WE ISSUED ADMINISTRATIVE VARIANCES FOR THOSE ALL THE TIME.
AND THIS WAS LIKE, WE BARELY EVEN, UH, REVIEW THAT 'CAUSE IT'S LIKE, YEAH, YOU NEED THE FOOT.
SO WE DECIDED LET'S GIVE 'EM THE FOOT IN THE CODE SO THEY DON'T HAVE TO ASK PERMISSION ANYMORE.
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SO THAT WAS REALLY, UH, LIKE I SAID, IT'S A PRACTICAL MATTER.HOW HAS THAT BEEN HANDLED IN THE PAST? JUST AS AN EXCEPTION, THEY CAME AND GOT AN EXCEPTION.
WE, WE DO AN ADMINISTRATIVE VARIANCE, WHICH IS, UM, AS THE DIRECTOR, I'M ALLOWED TO GRANT ONE, OR EXCUSE ME, 10% UP TO 10% OF WHATEVER THE STANDARD IS.
SO IN THIS CASE, UH, IT WAS ONE FOOT OF THE 10 FOOT, UM, REAR SETBACK.
UM, THE NEXT ITEM IS TO ALLOW AUTO REPAIR IN NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL AS A LIMITED USE.
UM, RIGHT NOW IT IS IN, IT IS, UH, ALLOWED AS A PERMITTED USE.
UM, SO WE, WE DO WANNA ALLOW IT IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL, BUT WE WANTED TO PUT SOME BUFFERING STANDARDS ON IT.
THE, ALSO THE USE STANDARDS THAT WERE LISTED IN THAT, FOR THE OTHER ITEMS, FOR THE OTHER, UM, LIKE UNDER, UM, THE SJ FLEXES IS LISTED AS LIMITED USE.
THAT WAS REFERRING TO THE WRONG USE STANDARDS.
IT WAS FU REFERRING TO SOME OTHER SECTION.
SO THE 2.33 DASH FIVE T THAT IS ACTUALLY THE CORRECT, UM, REFERENCE, WHICH SHOULD HAVE BEEN THERE BEFORE.
SO OTHERWISE, THE ONLY OTHER CHANGES THAT, UM, REQUIRING THOSE BUFFERING STANDARDS IN NC WHEREAS RIGHT NOW, THOSE BUFFERING STANDARDS ARE NOT REQUIRED.
UH, AND THAT, AND AGAIN, THAT ONLY APPLIES TO, UM, AUTO REPAIR AS A USE.
IT DOESN'T APPLY TO OTHER USES.
THE NEXT ITEM IS TO REVERT THE SIZE LIMITATION FOR VEHICLE AND BOAT SALES RENTAL AND LEASING TO THE CODE LANGUAGE THAT WE HAD ADOPTED TWO YEARS AGO, I THINK.
AND THAT WAS DUE TO, WE HAD THIS 13,000 POUND LIMIT ON, AND WE SAID WE DON'T HAVE A A PRACTICAL WAY TO MEASURE THAT.
SO WE WOULD LIKE TO DO SOMETHING THAT THAT MAKES A LITTLE BIT MORE SENSE.
SO REALLY ALL WE DID WAS WE TOOK THE LANGUAGE THAT WE HAD ALREADY ADOPTED AND JUST BROUGHT IT BACK INTO THE CODE AND REMOVED THE 13,000 POUND, UH, LIMITATION.
UM, WE ADDED CONDITIONS TO RECREATIONAL VEHICLE PARKS.
SO RV PARKS, UM, ARE ALLOWED, LEMME GO BACK TO MY NOTES ON THIS ONE.
ALRIGHT, BEFORE YOU GO ANY FURTHER,
I MEAN, YOU HAVE, YOU HAVE LOT CONDITIONS.
YOU HAVE STREET CONDITIONS GETTING IN AND OUT, YOU KNOW, TEARING UP THE STREET ACCESS CURBS.
SO IF YOU'LL REMEMBER, UM, I, I'LL I'LL ANSWER THE QUESTION DIRECTLY HERE IN A SECOND.
UM, THE GENTLEMAN WHO WANTED TO REZONE HIS PROPERTY TO ALLOW FOR SUCH A USE TO SELL TRAILERS, THIS WAS PART OF HIS ISSUE.
'CAUSE HE WAS SAYING, LOOK, I'M ONLY SELLING THESE OPEN BED TRAILERS AND THIS ONE, AND HE SHOWED US TWO DIFFERENT PICTURES.
AND ONE WAS A, WAS A 11,000 POUND, ONE WAS AN 18,000 POUND.
AND THE ONLY WAY YOU COULD TELL A DIFFERENCE WAS HOW MANY, HOW MANY LUGS WERE ON THE WHEELS.
AND SO AS WE LOOKED AT THAT, WE SAID, YOU'RE RIGHT.
WE HAVE NO GOOD WAY TO MEASURE THAT 13,000 POUNDS.
SO, SO NO, THE DIRECT QUESTION IS NO, THERE'S NO, THERE'S STILL NOT GONNA BE A WEIGHT LIMIT.
BUT THIS IS WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS UNLOADED.
WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT A LOADED TRAILER.
SO WHAT WE'RE SAYING IS IT CAN'T BE TALLER THAN 10 FEET.
AND, AND IT'S NOT A HEAVY EQUIPMENT OR DESIGNED FOR INDUSTRIAL PURPOSES.
SO YOU'RE NOT, UM, YOU'RE NOT SELLING TRACTOR TRAILERS, YOU'RE SELLING, THIS IS, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE, THE MORE, UM, EITHER, UM, LIKE IT SAYS TOOLS, TRACTORS, OR EQUIPMENT, UM, THAT ARE MORE OF A COMMERCIAL NATURE, NOT AN INDUSTRIAL NATURE.
DOES THAT MAKE A LITTLE BIT MORE SENSE? YEAH, I, THAT'S FINE.
DON'T MAKE SURE WE'RE NOT PUTTING MORE WEIGHT ON OUR RESIDENTIAL ROADS AND AREAS AND CAUSING MORE PROBLEMS THAN, THAN WE HAVE.
'CAUSE THAT'S GETTING, THAT'S STARTING TO BE AN ISSUE.
PARTICULARLY SINCE WE SEEM TO HAVE A LOT OF CROSS TRAFFIC GOING THROUGH RESIDENTIAL AREAS THAT AREN'T SUPPOSED TO BE GOING THROUGH RESIDENTIAL AREAS.
AGAIN, THIS WOULD BE UNLOADED TRAILERS.
SO WHERE YOU, I DON'T WANNA ENCOURAGE IT.
UM, THIS IS THE LANGUAGE THAT WE AS A CITY ADOPTED TWO YEARS AGO.
SO JUST BRINGING THAT BACK IN, THAT WAS AN OVERSIGHT IN THE, UH, ULDC UM, UPDATE.
SO, UM, ADDING CONDITIONS TO RECREATIONAL VEHICLE PARK, UM, RIGHT NOW WHERE THE RECREATIONAL VEHICLE PARK IS ALLOWED, UM, THERE REALLY IS NO, IT, IT DIDN'T BRING OVER THE CONDITIONS FROM THE OLD CODE.
SO WE, WE WANTED TO BRING THOSE CONDITIONS BACK.
SO A MINIMUM LOT SIZE FIVE ACRES.
UM, AND THEN THIS OTHER LINE ABOUT THE PROPERTY NOT SUBJECT TO A VALID RECREATIONAL VEHICLE PARK OPERATING LICENSE.
IF IT WAS IN OPERATION PRIOR TO 2013 THAT BASICALLY GRANDFATHER GRANDFATHERED THE OLD RV PARKS.
AND SO WE WANTED TO BRING THAT BACK AGAIN TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S IN
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THE CODE.WE KNOW WHEN THAT CHANGE HAPPENED, IT'S AN EASY REFERENCE AND WE DIDN'T WANT TO TAKE AWAY ANY OF THE RIGHTS FROM THOSE THAT, THAT WERE ALREADY IN, UM, IN OPERATION.
UM, AND, AND THAT THOSE THAT ARE NOT UNDER THAT DO HAVE TO COME THROUGH FOR A SPECIAL USE PERMIT, WHICH OF COURSE YOU GUYS KNOW, GOES TO PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION AND THEN GOES TO CITY COUNCIL.
NEXT ITEM WAS CHANGES TO ACCESSORY USE AND STRUCTURE STANDARDS.
UM, A COUPLE OF, THERE'S A COUPLE OF THESE ARE JUST CONFUSING.
SO WE WANTED TO, TO SIMPLIFY SOME OF THIS UNDER SETBACKS.
UM, THERE, THERE WAS, AS YOU CAN SEE, THE RED LINE VERSION OF, UH, DETACHED ACCESSORY STRUCTURES.
IF YOU HAVE A FENCE, IT CHANGED THE SETBACK.
IF YOU DIDN'T HAVE A FENCE, IT WAS A DIFFERENT SETBACK.
SO AGAIN, THIS WAS A NEW THING THAT IN THE NEW, UH, IN THE NEW CODE, AND WE DECIDED THAT JUST COMPLICATED THINGS WAY TOO MUCH.
IT MADE IT TOO HARD TO UNDERSTAND.
SO WE JUST WANTED TO REMOVE THAT AND IT'LL, IT'LL GO BACK TO THE SETBACKS THAT ARE ALREADY IN ONE OF THE OTHER, UM, SECTIONS OF THE CODE.
UM, AND THAT WAY THAT THAT ALSO ALLOWS FOR, WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR TROUBLE WITH, UH, WITH CONFLICTS WITHIN THE CODE.
THE NEXT ITEM WAS ACCESSORY STRUCTURES.
AGAIN, THIS IS AN ACCESSORY STRUCTURE LOCATED IN AN INTERIOR SIDE YARD SHOULD BE SCREENED BY A SIX FOOT OPAQUE FENCE OR WALL.
UM, AGAIN, THIS WAS A NEW THING.
SO IF YOU HAVE A, A SHED OR A GARAGE IN YOUR, UM, IN YOUR SIDE YARD, THEN YOU ARE GONNA BE, YOU HAVE TO SCREEN IT WITH A FENCE OR A WALL.
WE DON'T CURRENTLY REQUIRE THAT.
SO IT JUST DIDN'T MAKE ANY SENSE TO, TO HAVE THAT IN THERE.
AND THEN THE THIRD ITEM WAS, UM, SWIMMING POOLS.
UM, SWIMMING POOLS ARE CATEGORIZED AS AN ACCESSORY USE.
I CHECKED WITH BUILDING CODE TO MAKE SURE THAT I WASN'T MISSING SOMETHING.
AND, UM, THIS SPECIFIED A, A, A SETBACK FOR SWIMMING POOLS WHERE IT, AGAIN, IT IS CLASSIFIED AS AN ACCESSORY USE.
SO WE WANTED TO AGAIN, REDUCE THE CONFUSION AND SAY, OKAY, AN ACCESSORY USE IS THE SAME AS A GARAGE OR A SHED OR, OR ANOTHER ACCESSORY USE.
SO AGAIN, WE JUST REMOVE THAT AND IT REVERTS TO THE OTHER SETBACK.
UM, REQUIREMENT, MARTIN, IS THERE CURRENTLY A CODE FOR SPOON FOO THAT REQUIRES 'EM TO BE FENCED IN FOR SAFETY ISSUES? YES, THAT'S PART OF THE BUILDING CODE.
BUT THAT COULD BE, IF THE ENTIRE BACKYARD'S FENCED IN, THEN THAT COVERS IT, BUT THEY HAVE TO BE FENCED AND SECURITY TO KEEP LITTLE KIDS AND THINGS OUT.
I THINK WE'RE GETTING THROUGH MOST OF THIS LIST HERE.
SO TEMPORARY USES, AGAIN, THERE WAS A CHANGE THAT WAS MADE, UM, LAST, MAYBE IT WAS TWO YEARS AGO BY CITY COUNCIL TO REMOVE SOME OF THE TEMPORARY USES, UH, THAT WE HAD BEEN ALLOWING AT THE TIME.
UM, THAT INCLUDED OPEN AIR MARKET ROADSIDE STANDS, THOSE MOBILE RETAIL VENDORS, ANYBODY WHO'S SELLING STUFF OUT OF A TRUCK OFF THE SIDE OF, UH, GARTH ROAD OR SITTING IN THE HEB PARKING LOT, IF YOU GUYS REMEMBER SOME OF THAT CONVERSATION THAT HAPPENED AT THE TIME.
UM, THOSE, AGAIN, THOSE WERE ALREADY REMOVED FROM OUR CODE, SO THEY KIND OF SNUCK THEIR WAY BACK IN.
SO WE'RE REMOVING THOSE THE WAY, UH, COUNCIL HAD INTENDED A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO.
AND THEN THE ITEMS IN THE BOTTOM PIECE OF THAT TABLE, TEMPORARY CONSTRUCTION OFFICES AND TEMPORARY CONSTRUC CONSTRUCTION DUMPSTERS IN COMMERCIAL AREAS.
THIS CODE REQUIRES THEM TO HAVE A TEMPORARY USE PERMIT.
WHAT WE ARE FINDING AFTER GOING BACK AND LOOKING AT IT AGAIN, IS THAT WE'VE ALWAYS ALLOWED THOSE TWO TYPES OF USES TO GO HAND IN HAND WITH A COMMERCIAL BUILDING PERMIT.
AND WE'VE NEVER HAD AN ISSUE WITH IT.
SO ADDING THE EXTRA STEP OF GOING TO GET A TEMPORARY USE PERMIT, UM, HAVING STAFF HAVE TO GO THROUGH THAT REVIEW AND DO ALL THAT, SEEMED LIKE EXTRA WORK FOR ALL OF US.
SO WE DECIDED LET'S GO AHEAD AND REMOVE THAT AS WELL.
IF IT WERE A PROBLEM, WE'D LEAVE IT THERE.
IT JUST HASN'T PRESENTED A PROBLEM FOR STAFF UP TO THIS POINT.
DOES THIS MEAN, SO WE COUNCIL HAD PASSED AN ORDINANCE ELIMINATING THE MOBILE FOOD TRUCKS AND THEN NOT, NOT FOOD TRUCKS, AND THEN, THEN NOW THEY'RE BACK.
SO THIS, DOES THIS PERTAIN TO ANY OF THOSE AT ALL, OR ARE WE STILL GONNA HAVE THESE MOBILE FOOD OR THESE TEMPORARY FOOD TRUCKS ALL OVER THE PLACE? NO FOOD.
THE MOBILE FOOD VENDORS IS STILL ALLOWED.
THAT IS CITY COUNCIL DID NOT DO AWAY WITH THAT.
THEY, THEY HAVE THEIR OWN PIECE OF CODE THAT'S IN CHAPTER, UH, I CAN'T REMEMBER THE CHAPTER.
SO IT, IT'S ALREADY IN A PIECE OF THE CODE.
THOSE HAVE BEEN ALLOWED IN THE PAST.
THEY WILL CONTINUE TO BE ALLOWED.
WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT IS, UM, THE GUY SELLING VELVET ELVIS OUTTA THE BACK OF A PICKUP TRUCK,
UM, MAYBE IT'S THE DOGS PLAYING POOL OR SOMETHING.
BUT THE, THE ONE THAT WAS IN QUESTION WHEN CITY COUNCIL CHANGED, IT WAS THE GUY WHO WOULD, UM, REPAIR OR
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REPLACE WINDSHIELDS OUT OF THE A EB PARKING LOT.THAT'S WHY I WAS SAYING THEY VOTED TO DO AWAY WITH ALL PERMIT.
THEY VOTED TO DO AWAY WITH ALL PERMITS TO, TO END THE QUESTION.
SO THEY ALL WENT AWAY FOR A LITTLE WHILE, BUT NOW THEY'RE BACK.
ACCORDINGLY, AT SOME POINT IN TIME THEY'VE BEEN ALLOWED TO BE APPROVED AND BACK IN, I MEAN, THEY'RE JUST, THEY'RE ALL OVER THE PLACE.
SO, SO THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING NOW.
YES, EXCEPT FOR THE FOOD TRUCKS.
THE FOOD TRUCKS ARE STILL PERMITTED.
AND THERE IS A PROCESS FOR, UM, UH, FOR GETTING A PERMIT FOR THAT, UH, THROUGH THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT.
AND THIS, THIS WOULD, AGAIN, RIGHT NOW THOSE THINGS ARE ALLOWED BECAUSE OF THE CODE, THE WAY IT'S WRITTEN.
WE CAUGHT THAT AND SAID, LET'S GET RID OF THOSE BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT CITY COUNCIL TOLD US TO DO.
SO WE'RE, WE'RE FIXING THAT WITH THIS AMENDMENT.
TAKE, TAKING IT BACK TO THE WAY IT WAS BEFORE, UH, JANUARY 1ST.
UH, AND THEN I THINK THIS, UH, WE'RE, WE'RE GETTING CLOSE.
UM, WE HAD SOME PARKING, UM, WE'VE HAD SOME PARKING QUESTIONS.
SO WHAT WE WANTED TO DO WAS INCREASE THE MAXIMUM PARKING FOR DRIVE THROUGH RESTAURANTS.
THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF CONFUSION ABOUT THIS, AND WE'VE HAD SEVERAL QUESTIONS.
UM, THE, THE CURRENT CODE SAYS ONE PARKING SPACE FOR 250 SQUARE FEET OF GROSS FLOOR AREA.
SO IF YOU REMEMBER, WE REMOVED THE MINIMUM NUMBER OF PARKING SPACES REQUIRED FOR ANY COMMERCIAL, BUT THIS IS A MAXIMUM.
SO IF I AM, IF I'M DOING 201 SPACE PER 250 SQUARE FEET, IF I HAVE, UH, HELP ME WITH THE MATH LOBBY, IF I HAVE 4,000 SQUARE FEET, THEN I WOULD HAVE 16, 16 16 PARKING SPACES.
IF THAT'S A, IF THAT'S A MCDONALD'S OR A, OR A STARBUCKS EVEN, OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
SO, UM, WE WANT TO BRING THAT BACK DOWN TO A HUNDRED SQUARE FEET, WHICH STILL MAY BE NOT ENOUGH, BUT THAT WOULD BE, BRING IT UP TO 40 PARKING SPACES.
NOW, WITH THAT, THERE IS CURRENTLY, AS YOU SEE IN THE PARAGRAPH BELOW THE CHART, UM, THAT THERE IS A, UH, AN ALLOWANCE FOR A SPECIAL STUDY TO BE SUBMITTED IN THE CURRENT CODE.
IT BASICALLY IS, IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO REDUCE THE NUMBER OF REQUIRED PARKING SPACES FOR A RESIDENTIAL, IT DOESN'T SAY A RESIDENTIAL, BUT RESIDENTIAL IS THE ONLY ONE THAT HAS THAT, THAT MINIMUM.
IF THEY WANT TO REDUCE THE NUMBER OF PARKING SPACES, SAY FOR AN APARTMENT COMPLEX, THEN THEY WOULD DO A, UM, THEY WOULD DO A STUDY AND THEY WOULD SUBMIT THAT REPORT TO US, AND WE WOULD MAKE A DETERMINATION WHETHER THAT MADE SENSE OR NOT.
WE ALSO BELIEVE THAT IT COULD BE, UM, THERE ARE SITUATIONS WHERE IT COULD BE APPROPRIATE FOR A COMMERCIAL, UH, UH, PROJECT TO DO THE SAME, TO SAY WE WANT, BUT WE WANT MORE THAN THE MAXIMUM ALLOWED.
SO RATHER THAN JUST LET SOMEBODY PUT 10,000 PARKING SPACES OUT IN FRONT OF A MALL, WE WERE GOING TO HAVE, WE WERE GONNA REQUIRE THEM TO SUBMIT A SPECIAL STUDY TO SAY, OKAY, THIS IS HOW MANY PARKING SPACES WE NEED AND HERE'S WHY.
AND HERE'S ALL THE TRAFFIC GENERATION INFORMATION TO, UH, TO JUSTIFY THAT.
SO AGAIN, IT'S NOT AN AUTOMATIC, IT IS A REPORT THAT THEY HAVE TO SUBMIT BACK TO STAFF.
UH, AND THEN WE LOOK AT IT AND, AND DECIDE WHETHER THAT MAKES SENSE OR NOT.
SO WE'RE TRYING TO ALLOW FOR A LITTLE BIT OF FLEXIBILITY, UM, AS WELL AS LONG AS IT'S JUSTIFIED.
SO WHEN YOU HAVE LIKE A DEVELOPMENT, WHETHER IT BE
I MEAN, SO SOMETHING TO KEEP ON THE RADAR IS WHEN YOU HAVE, LIKE, FOR EXAMPLE, WITH
I MEAN, THAT, THAT IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN, YOU KNOW, A, A BOUTIQUE, RIGHT? THAT MAY HAVE A COUPLE OF CUSTOMERS IN THERE AT A TIME VERSUS A HUNDRED.
I WANNA BE CAREFUL OF USING SAN MARKETPLACE AS A, AN EXAMPLE, BECAUSE NUMBER ONE, THAT'S A ONCE IN A, IN A COUPLE DECADES TYPE OF PROJECT, BUT THEY ALSO WENT THROUGH A PUD PROCESS AND WE'VE ALREADY, WE'VE ALREADY LOCKED DOWN HOW MANY PARKING SPACES THEY'RE GET AND THAT OVERALL PROJECT IS OVER PARKED WITHOUT A DOUBT.
THERE'S MORE PARKING SPACES IN THERE THEN THEY WILL USE EXCEPT MAYBE THE DAY AFTER THE DAY AFTER THANKSGIVING.
I WAS JUST USING THAT MORE AS A POINT OF REFERENCE.
AND NOT SO MUCH AS THE PROJECT ITSELF.
YOU KNOW, BUT ANY OTHER, IF THERE'S
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RESTAURANTS, MULTIPLE RESTAURANTS THAT POP UP IN AN AREA OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, AND, AND THAT'S WHAT THIS IS DESIGNED, THIS CHANGES DESIGNED TO ALLOW FOR THAT, BUT THEY HAVE TO TELL US HOW MANY THEY WANT.IN THE PAST, WE WOULD'VE SAID, YOU HAVE TO HAVE A MINIMUM OF THIS NUMBER.
THAT AFFECTED A LOT MORE BUSINESSES TO SAY, I KNOW I'M ONLY GONNA NEED SIX SPACES WHERE YOU'RE TELLING ME I GOTTA HAVE 25, AS OPPOSED TO THIS WHERE WE'RE SAYING YOU CAN HAVE 200, BUT I WANT 240.
IT'S A MUCH, IT'S A, IT'S MUCH LESS OF A PROBLEM, BUT WE DO WANNA ALLOW FOR IT SO THAT, SO WE DO HAVE A BIG PROJECT.
THIS DOESN'T DRIVE BUSINESSES AWAY.
THEY JUST HAVE TO TAKE THAT EXTRA STEP AND TALK TO US.
I, MY FAMILY WENT TO TEXAS ROADHOUSE ON SATURDAY EVENING AND IT, THE RESTAURANT WASN'T EVEN FULL AND THERE WAS LITERALLY PARKING, YOU KNOW, SO JUST TO THINK THAT ONE GOES BACK A LONG WAYS.
I I CAN'T, I CAN'T SPEAK TO THAT ONE.
YES, A LOT OF CONSTRUCTION TOO, RIGHT OVER THERE.
WHAT'S THAT? A LOT OF CONSTRUCTION GOING ON.
WELL, BUT THAT WASN'T PARKING LOT REALLY.
I MEAN, THERE WAS, BUT THAT WASN'T THEIR PARKING LOT.
ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT THE AMENDMENT? NO.
SO RIGHT NOW, IF YOU'RE ON A CORNER LOT, AND, UM, SO WE DON'T WANT FENCES THAT ARE WITHIN THE VISIBILITY TRIANGLE.
WE DON'T WANT ANYTHING THAT BLOCKS YOU FROM BEING ABLE TO SEE TRAFFIC WHEN YOU'RE TRYING TO PULL OUT FROM A STREET OR PULL INTO A STREET.
SO THIS ONE, THAT LANGUAGE WAS NOT THE SAME AS WHAT WE HAD IN ANOTHER SECTION.
AND SO IT BASICALLY SAYS, UH, WE'RE, WE'RE CROSSING OUT THE ON CORNER LOTS, FENCES AND WALLS ARE GREATER THAN 50% OPACITY SHALL NOT ENCROACH, UM, INTO THAT SETBACK.
BUT REALLY WE JUST, WE WANT A VERY CLEAR, NO FENCES LOCATED WITHIN A CLEAR VISIBILITY TRIANGLE.
VISIBILITY TRIANGLE IS DEFINED IN THE CODE.
IT'S DEFINED IN, UM, CHAPTER 1 0 9.
THAT'S THE ENGINEERING PORTION OF OUR CODE.
SO WE JUST WANT IT TO BE VERY CLEAR, JUST DON'T PUT A FENCE IN THE VISIBILITY TRIANGLE.
IT, IT MADE MUCH MORE SENSE AND IT REFLECTS WHAT IS LOCATED, WHAT THE LANGUAGE THAT'S LOCATED IN ANOTHER SPOT IN THE CODE.
IS THIS GRANDFATHERED FOR THE EXISTING FENCES? YES.
BECAUSE THIS IS A HUGE PROBLEM.
WELL, MORALE PARK AND OVER ON HARVARD AND I MEAN, THERE'S A LOT OF INTERSECTIONS, BUT YOU JUST, YOU CAN'T SEE WITHOUT GETTING OUT IN THE STREET.
I, I ACTUALLY, I WANT TO, I WANT TO, I WANNA COME BACK TO YOUR QUESTION AND I I'LL RETRACT THAT.
MY STANDARD RE RE REACTION IS, IS YES, IF IT'S INVISIBILITY TRIANGLE AND IT CREATES A SAFETY HAZARD, THEN WE DO, WE WILL GO AND, AND TAKE A LOOK AT IT.
UM, OTHER OTHERWISE THAT THEY PROBABLY WOULD BE.
BUT IF IT'S CREATING A, A SAFETY ISSUE, THEN YEAH, WE, WE ALWAYS, UM, RESERVES THE RIGHT TO GO BACK AND, AND, UH, AND ENFORCE THAT.
UM, THERE'S SOME CHANGES TO SIGN CODE AND THERE PROBABLY WILL BE MORE IF, IF YOU NOTICE THE CHANGES TO THE SIGN CODE IN THE NEW, IN THE NEW LDC ARE MAJOR AND WE SCRAPPED THE OLD SIGN CODE AND STARTED FROM SCRATCH.
SO THERE ARE STILL SOME THINGS THAT AGAIN, WE'RE KIND OF WEEDING THROUGH TO SAY, OKAY, THIS WORKS OR IT DOESN'T WORK.
UM, WE ALSO, I THINK, GOT A LITTLE BIT MORE DIRECTION WHEN, UM, SAN JATO MARKETPLACE PUD CAME IN AND WE GOT A LITTLE MORE DIRECTION FROM NOT ONLY THIS BOARD FROM CITY COUNCIL TO SAY, IF THIS IS AN IMPORTANT, UM, COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT, WE WANT TO ALLOW FOR A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN MAYBE WHAT THE, THE CODE, UM, DOES NOW.
SO THE OLD CODE ALLOWED FOR 80 FOOT SIGNS.
IF YOU WERE WITHIN 200 FEET OF THE, UM, OF THE INTERSTATE RIGHT NOW, THE TALLEST SIGN YOU CAN HAVE IS, I THINK 10 FEET ANYWHERE IN THE CITY.
IS IT 10, 10 OR 12? I THINK IT'S 10 FEET ANYWHERE IN THE CITY.
YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO HAVE A PYLON SIGN AT ALL.
AS WE LOOK AT THE INTERSTATE AND WE STILL HAVE NEW BUSINESSES COMING IN ALONG THERE, THEY'RE ALL SAYING, WELL, WHAT ARE WE GONNA DO? YOU CAN'T SEE A 10 FOOT SIGN FROM THE INTERSTATE.
SO, UM, AS MUCH AS IT KILLS ME, WE, WE THINK IT WOULD BE, UH, A REASONABLE ALLOWANCE TO ALLOW FOR 42 AND A HALF FOOT SIGN.
UM, THAT'S UP TO 300 SQUARE FEET IN, IN AREA.
UM, AND STILL WITHIN THAT 200 FEET OF THE INTERSTATE AND ALSO IN THE FREEWAY COMMERCIAL ZONE.
SO IT WILL ALLOW FOR TALLER, TALLER SIGNS.
UH, FOR AN EXAMPLE, I THINK THE KROGER ALONG, UH, GARTH, THAT IS A 42 AND A HALF FOOT SIGN.
THE 80 FOOT SIGN WOULD BE LIKE THE BUCKY SIGN.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S AN ENORMOUS SIGN.
UM, AND, AND AGAIN, OVER TIME WE WANT ALL THE TALLER SIGNS TO GO AWAY.
UM, THEY, THEY TEND TO BE, YOU KNOW, UNSIGHTLY ESPECIALLY OVER TIME.
SO, UM, BUT AGAIN, IF YOU'RE WITHIN 200 FEET OF THE INTERSTATE, IT DOES MAKE A LITTLE BIT MORE SENSE TO ALLOW FOR, UH, TALLER SIGNAGE TO BE, UH, VISIBLE FROM THERE.
I THINK WE DISCUSSED THAT IN ONE OF THE PAST MEETINGS WHERE IF YOU'RE COMING DOWN I 10 AND THE NEXT THING YOU KNOW, YOU'RE PASSING UP THE EXIT THAT THE BUCKY'S AT OR WE'LL, EVEN THE NEW SANTO MALL AREA, RIGHT? SO
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IT MAKES SENSE.OH NO, YOU GUYS MADE SURE SAN JACINTO MALL WOULD HAVE PLENTY OF SIGNS.
REVENUE FOR THE CITY BABY, ESPECIALLY COMMISSIONER WHEELER.
UM, OKAY, SO, SO AGAIN, WE'RE TRYING TO GIVE A LITTLE BIT MORE.
WE'RE TRYING TO ALLOW FOR A LITTLE BIT MORE TO HELP THE BUSINESSES.
SO, UM, WE WILL PROBABLY COME BACK WITH SOME MORE SIGNAGE CODE, UM, AMENDMENTS.
BUT THIS ONE WAS IMMEDIATE BECAUSE WE'VE ALREADY BEEN HIT WITH IT A COUPLE TIMES TO SAY, WHAT DO, WHAT, WHAT CAN I DO? SO, UM, FOR REFERENCE, BECAUSE YOU GUYS JUST HAD A REZONE COME THROUGH THAT AFFECTED THE LOT THAT WHERE MAMBO SEAFOOD IS AND THE LOT BEHIND IT.
THERE'S A PROPOSED, UM, GOLDEN CORRAL, THAT ONE UNDER THE OLD CODE, BECAUSE THEY APPLIED UNDER THE OLD CODE WILL BE ALLOWED AN 80 FOOT SIGN, UM, AS LONG AS THEY PUT IT IN A CERTAIN SPOT.
SO WHEN YOU SEE THAT AND YOU GO, WHEN DID THEY GET THAT REALLY TALL SIGN? THEY CAME IN UNDER THE OLD CODE AND THEY'RE KIND OF, UM, VESTED, UH, AS THAT, WHERE IS THAT LOCATION? YOU KNOW WHERE MAMBO SEAFOOD IS? NO.
UM, DO YOU KNOW WHERE, UH, WHAT'S RIGHT NEXT DOOR? SALT.
YEAH, IT'S, THERE'S A LITTLE DRIVEWAY IN BETWEEN SALT GRASS AND MAMBO.
THE GOLDEN CROW'S GONNA GO IN KIND OF RIGHT BEHIND MAMBO, DOWN THAT DRIVEWAY, UM, PROPOSED.
UM, BUT THEY HAVE THEIR ZONING.
THE OTHER SIGNAGE, UM, ISSUE WAS, UH, THIS, I DON'T REMEMBER IF THIS WAS EVEN IN FRONT OF, OF THIS BOARD LAST YEAR, THERE WAS A TALK ABOUT RESIDENTIAL SIGNS.
SO I'VE GOT A SIGN IN MY YARD THAT SAYS, CONGRATS TO MY STRAIGHT A STUDENT OR GRADUATE OR WHATEVER IT IS.
UM, PEOPLE WERE, UH, UPSET THAT THEY THOUGHT WE WOULD COME AFTER THEIR YARD SIGNS.
WE DON'T DO THAT
SO THAT GOT CHANGED OUT IN THIS CODE AND THAT WAS AN OVERSIGHT.
SO WE'RE KIND OF COMING BACK TO THAT AND SAYING, OKAY, THOSE RESIDENTIAL SIGNS ARE NOW UNRESTRICTED AGAIN.
UM, WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT ENFORCING THAT EITHER WAY.
BUT, UM, THAT SAID, WE NEEDED THE CODE TO REFLECT WHAT IT WAS THAT CITY COUNCIL SAID THEY WANTED.
DOES THAT, DOES THAT ADDRESS THE CONTRACTORS' YARD SIGNS THAT GET PUT UP? LIKE THE ROOFING COMPANY, YOU KNOW, THAT YOU SEE ADVERTISING THEM THAT THEY DID A ROOF AT THAT LOCATION OR MM-HMM
THAT, SO ARE THEY UNRESTRICTED OR ARE THEY RESTRICTED? THE TWO PARTS, THE CITY COUNCIL'S DIRECTION WAS TO SAY ALL RESIDENTIAL SIGNS ARE UNRESTRICTED.
SO WITH THE MULTI-UNIT DWELLINGS THOUGH, IS THAT THE, I'M, I'M ASSUMING APARTMENT COMPLEX, APARTMENT COMPLEX OWNER ITSELF? OR IS THAT THE RESIDENCE WITHIN IT, FOR EXAMPLE? I MEAN WITH THOSE TIME LIMITS AND THINGS LIKE THAT AND MULTI-UNIT DWELLINGS.
UM, I, I GUESS I DON'T UNDERSTAND YOUR QUESTION.
SO IT, IT SAYS LIKE UNDER MULTI-UNIT DWELLINGS, YOU KNOW, TIME LIMITS SEVEN DAYS PER QUARTER.
IS THAT FOR A RESIDENT OF A MULTI-UNIT DWELLING, THEY CAN HAVE A SIGN OR THAT THEY WANT OUT IN THEIR LITTLE YARD OR THEIR, YOU, SO I'M ASSUMING IN AN APARTMENT COMPLEX, THE APARTMENT COMPLEX MANAGEMENT WOULD HAVE AN ISSUE WITH THAT.
SO THAT'S KIND OF A SELF-REGULATING THING, BUT IT GOES FOR WHATEVER'S ON THE LOT.
SO IF THE, IF THE APARTMENT, SO WE'RE REALLY TALKING ABOUT APARTMENT COMPLEX SIGNS.
SO THEY PUT A BANNER OUT THAT SAYS, UM, MOVE IN BONE, MOVE IN, UM, SPECIAL FOR $99.
THAT'S WHAT WE WOULD ALLOW THAT FOR SEVEN DAYS, ONCE A QUARTER.
THAT WAS A CLARIFICATION I WAS SEEKING.
WAS THE APARTMENT COMPLEX OWNER AND MANAGEMENT, WHAT HAVE YOU, WHAT THEY'RE DOING OR THE RESIDENT OF THE APARTMENT COMPLEX.
SO NONE OF THIS WOULD AFFECT THE RESIDENTS OF AN APARTMENT COMPLEX.
A AGAIN, I'D ASSUME THAT THAT THE APARTMENT COMPLEXES WOULD HAVE THEIR OWN RULES ON THAT SORT OF THING.
SO IF I HUNG A BANNER OFF OF MY BALCONY OF MY APARTMENT TO SAY, UM, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN'T DO THAT BAY COUNT BAYTOWN COPS SUCK.
THEY WOULD COME OUT AND SAY, UH, YOU GUYS, YOU NEED TO MOVE THAT AGAIN.
I, I BELIEVE THAT TO BE A SELF-REGULATING, UH, TYPE OF THING.
I, I DON'T THINK WE'RE GONNA, BUT THAT, THAT SOUNDS PRETTY RESTRICTIVE.
ARE THEY ALLOWED ANY OTHER KIND OF ADVERTISING ON THEIR PROPERTY, UH, APARTMENT COMPLEXES, YOU KNOW, ONE MONTH FREE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT? ARE THEY HAVE TO GO? I MEAN, I'M ASKING SEVEN DAYS PER THREE MONTH PERIOD.
IS IT IT'S PRETTY RESTRICTIVE IN THE ADVERTISING WORLD WHEN YOU'RE TRYING TO FILL APARTMENTS UP.
SO, SO RIGHT NOW THAT IS WHAT IT SAYS IN THERE.
AND I, I'D HAVE TO GO BACK AND LOOK AND SEE IF THERE'S ANY OF THIS IS FOR TEMPORARY SIGNAGE.
SO OBVIOUSLY IF YOU'VE GOT SIGN FOR, YOU KNOW, THAT HAS THE NAME OF THE APARTMENT COMPLEX THAT'S PERMANENT, ANY KIND OF
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PERMANENT SIGNAGE WOULD BE COVERED UNDER A DIFFERENT SECTION.BUT ALSO, UM, FOR TONIGHT, THERE'S NO CHANGE, RIGHT? THERE'S NO CHANGE PROPOSED TO THAT SECTION.
SO IT'S NOT SOMETHING WE COULD JUST KIND OF ARBITRARILY CHANGE AT THIS TIME.
AGAIN, I THINK WE ARE STILL REFINING THE SIGN CODE AND WE'LL BE BACK IN FRONT OF YOU WITH SOME MORE CHANGES TO IT BEFORE THE END OF THE YEAR.
THE SIGN SECTION ITSELF IS ALMOST 40 PAGES, SO THE OLD SIGN SECTION WAS EIGHT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
SO IT IS A LOT MORE RESTRICTIVE.
UM, SO WE'RE, WE'RE TRYING TO, THAT'S ONE OF THOSE HIT OR MISS TYPES THINGS AS WE GET THROUGH MORE OF THE, OF THE REQUEST AND THE CONVERSATIONS WITH, UM, DEVELOPERS OR PEOPLE OR PROPERTY OWNERS, WE'LL WE'LL HAVE A BETTER IDEA OF KIND OF WHETHER IT'S WORKING OR NOT.
UM, I BELIEVE YEP, THAT IS THE LAST OF THOSE CHANGES.
SO, UM, THAT IS THE, UH, END OF MY PRESENTATION.
I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE.
YOU SAID SOMETHING INTERESTING EARLIER, UH, MARTIN, ABOUT, I GUESS MAKING IT EASIER FOR COMPANIES TO DO, WHAT I TOOK OUT OF IT WAS TRYING TO MAKE IT EASIER FOR COMPANIES TO DO BUSINESS HERE IN BAYTOWN.
ARE YOU FINDING THAT THE E LDC IS MAKING IT EASIER FOR COMPANIES IN THE BUSINESS HERE OR ARE WE, ARE WE KEEP, ARE WE ATTRACTING MORE OR HAVE YOU SEEN ANY MOVEMENT THERE? ASK ME IN ANOTHER TWO YEARS.
IT, IT'S PRETTY, IT'S PRETTY EARLY TO TELL.
UM, A LOT OF THE PERMITS THAT WE'RE DEALING WITH RIGHT NOW CAME IN UNDER THE OLD CODE AS LONG AS THEY PUT THE APPLICATION IN BY DECEMBER 31ST AND THEY'RE ALLOWED TO, TO DEVELOP UNDER THE OLD CODE BY STATE LAW.
MY, MY GUESS WOULD BE THAT THERE ARE CERTAIN THINGS THAT ARE MAKING IT, UM, EASIER AND MORE FLEXIBLE FOR BUSINESSES TO COME IN.
AND THERE ARE PROBABLY OTHER THINGS THAT THEY'RE GOING, YEAH, I DON'T REALLY WANT TO DEAL WITH THAT.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THOSE ARE YET.
BUT, BUT WE'LL ADJUST AS, AS WE CAN.
OBVIOUSLY IT'S REGULATION, SO WE HAVE TO COME THROUGH YOU AND GO THROUGH CITY COUNCIL TO MAKE ANY CHANGES.
SO, UM, WE WE'RE, WE'RE DOING OUR BEST TO STAY WITH THE TIMES AND MAKE SURE PEOPLE AREN'T, WE AREN'T DRIVING PEOPLE AWAY.
BUT AGAIN, THE, THE CODE IS TO PROTECT, UH, UM, PROPERTY VALUES AND HEALTH SAFETY AND WELFARE.
AND, AND UM, YOU KNOW, REASONABLE DEVELOPMENT IN A, IN A, IN A STANDARD MANNER.
SO UNIFIED THANK AS THE CODE WOULD IMPLY SO OF THE AGENDA, BUT THAT SENATE BILL THAT'S BEEN PROPOSED, IT'S GOING TO WRECK THIS WHOLE THING AS IT RELATES TO RESIDENTIAL.
YEAH, WE'LL SEE WHERE THEY GO.
A COUPLE OF THOSE ARE, THIS IS NOT THE FIRST TIME THEY'VE COME UP.
BUT FOR NOW, WE, WE CAN DO WHAT WE NEED TO DO.
HAS ANYONE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON THIS JUDGE IDA WITH NO ONE ELSE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK.
UM, WE HAD A DISCUSSION OF THE COMMISSION THERE BEING NO ONE ELSE DESIRING TO SPEAK.
I NOW CLOSE THIS PUBLIC HEARING CONCERNING THE PROPOSED TEXT AMENDMENT TO CHAPTER ONE 11 UNIFIED LAB AND DEVELOPMENT CODE ULDC OF THE BAYTOWN CODE OF ORDINANCES TO REVISE DIVISIONS 2.1, 2.2, 2.3, 3.3, 3.4, AND 3.6 OF THE ULDC FOR GENERAL CORRECTIONS IN CONSISTENCY WITH THE PREVIOUS CODE AND THE NEWLY ADOPTED CODE.
DO WE HAVE A MOTION? SO MOVE SECOND.
JUST TO POINT OF ORDER, I THINK IN OUR TRAINING SESSION, MARTIN ASKED FOR THE MOTIONS TO BE A LITTLE BIT MORE SPECIFIC THAN JUST MOVING THEM.
SO MAYBE WE OUGHT TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE AS IS INDICATED IN THE AGENDA ITEM.
AND IT'S DISCUSSED JUST MAKING A COMMENT ON WHAT? DO WE HAVE A MOTION FOR THE PARAGRAPH I JUST READ AND IT'S ITEM SIX A.
MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM SIX A AS READ.
ALL IN FAVOR? ANY OPPOSED? ANY ABSTAINED? THANK YOU.
[b. Conduct a public hearing and consider making a recommendation concerning a request to amend the official zoning map to rezone approximately 1.02 acres located at 2211 Connally Road, from Suburban Residential (SR) to a General Commercial (GC) Zoning District. ]
SIX B, CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING CONCERNING A REQUEST TO AMEND OFFICIAL ZONING MAP TO REZONE APPROXIMATELY 1.02 ACRES.LOCATED AT 2011 CONNOLLY ROAD FROM SUBURBAN RESIDENTIAL SR TO GENERAL COMMERCIAL GC ZONING DISTRICT IT IS NOW 6:00 PM AND I CALL TO ORDER THIS PUBLIC HEARING CONCERNING A REQUEST TO AMEND THE OFFICIAL ZONING MAP TO REZONE APPROXIMATELY 1.02 ACRES, LOCATED AT 2211 CONNOLLY ROAD FROM SUBURBAN SR TO GENERAL COMMERCIAL GC ZONING.
THANK YOU, TIM, FOR SUMMARIZING THIS SUBJECT OF THIS PUBLIC HEARING.
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AND, UH, COMMISSIONERS TIM CHI HERE WITH THE CITY'S PLANNING AND THE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.BEFORE YOU EVENING, WE HAVE A ZONING MAP AMENDMENT REQUEST.
THE SUBJECT SIDE IS CURRENTLY VACANT AND UNDEVELOPED AND IT IS LOCATED AT 2211 CONY ROAD BETWEEN JOHN MARTIN ROAD AND THE SAN JACINTO BOULEVARD.
THE SECOND VICINITY MAP SHOWS YOU A VIEW FROM ABOVE, WHICH IS LIKE ZONED OUT SO YOU CAN SEE WHAT'S ON THE GROUND.
THIS IS THE SUBJECT SIDE AGAIN, IT'S LIKE, UH, VACANT IN THE CURRENTLY UNDEVELOPED AND THERE ARE SOME EXISTING, UH, STRUCTURE, MORE LIKE RESIDENTIAL UNITS HERE.
SO THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING TO REZONE THE SUBJECT SIDE FROM SUBURBAN RESIDENTIAL SR TO GENERAL COMMERCIAL, THE GC TO ALLOW COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT ON THIS APPROXIMATELY 1.02 ACRE LOT IN NOVEMBER, 2019.
THE CITY REZONED PROPERTIES ALONG THE EAST SIDE OF JOHN MARTIN ROAD AND ALONG A SECTION OF WEST CEDAR BIO LYNCHBURG ROAD CLOSE TO THE INTERSECTION OF THE TWO ROADS FROM OPEN SPACE RECREATION OR TO GENERAL COMMERCIAL GC.
WHILE THE SUBJECT SIDE WAS NOT IN THE AREAS AFFECTED BY THE 2019 CITY SPONSORED REZONING FROM OR TO GC, IT IS ADJACENT TO LOWE'S REZONED PROPERTIES TO THE SOUTH IN THE WEST.
AS YOU CAN SEE THE RED PART HERE, WE HAVE SOME, UH, UH, THE PICTURES OF THE SITE.
SO YOU CAN SEE THIS IS THE SUBJECT SIDE.
HERE IS ANOTHER ONE LOOKING EAST TOWARD SHEPHERD ROAD FROM THE SUBJECT SIDE.
ANOTHER ONE LOOKING WEST TOWARDS JOHN MARTIN ROAD CITY'S FUTURE LAND USE MAP DESIGNATES THE AREA AS NEIGHBORHOOD SCALE COMMERCIAL.
SO WHAT THE APPLICANT PROPOSES TO CHANGE THE ZONE FROM SR TO GC IS IN LINE WITH THE UH, CITY'S FUTURE LAND USE MAP AND IS ALSO COMPATIBLE WITH THE GENERAL LAND USE CHARACTERISTICS OF THE SURROUNDING AREA.
SO STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THIS ZONING MAP AMENDMENT REQUEST.
MR. EMMANUEL, SAN MIGUEL IS SIGNED UP TO SPEAK.
WOULD YOU LIKE TO COME FORWARD SIR? THANK YOU.
I'M GONNA ASK YOU TO STATE YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS.
HELLO, MY NAME IS MANUEL SAN MIGUEL.
I LIVE AT 2211 CONLEY ROAD, BAYTOWN, TEXAS 7 7 5 2 1.
I'M A RESIDENT AND BEEN HERE IN BAYTOWN FOR A WHILE AND NOT TOO GOOD AT PUBLIC SPEAKINGS, BUT IT'S LIKE MY THIRD TIME I'VE BEEN HERE SINCE, YOU KNOW, I'M STILL KIND OF NEW AT THIS, SO I GUESS I'LL GET BRIEF AND, UH, I WANT SAY HELLO TO MS. LAIA.
AND MR. CHAN BACK THERE FOR EVERYTHING AND IT'S GOOD REPRESENTATION WHERE THEY GAVE HER ABOUT THE PROPERTY.
UH, MY IDEA IS TO WANT TO BRING LIKE, UH, LIKE A BUSINESS HERE TO MY PROPERTY AND EXPAND, YOU KNOW, LIKE I GUESS YOU CAN SAY LIKE THE COMMERCIAL AREA A LITTLE BIT MORE.
I'M JUST GONNA STATE THEM OUT SO LIKE IT CAN BE MORE BRIEF ABOUT 'EM.
UH, SMALL BUSINESSES, UH, AROUND THIS AREA CAN BENEFIT THE COMMUNITY, THE CITY BY CREATING LOCAL JOBS, KEEPING REVENUE CIRCULATING WITHIN THE LOCAL ECONOMY, CONTRIBUTING TO THE TAX BASE, FOSTERING COMMUNITY IDENTITY, PROVIDING UH, PERSONALIZED SERVICE, SUPPORTING LOCAL CHARITIES AND CAUSES, PROMOTING INNOVATION AND DIVERSITY IN THE MARKETPLACE.
MY KEY POINTS ARE EMPLOYMENT OPPORTUNITIES, LOCAL ECONOMIC BOOST, TAX BASE, INCREASE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, PERSONALIZED SERVICE, INNOVATION, DIVERSITY, AND UH,
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COMMUNITY IDENTITY.I MEAN IF ANYTHING ELSE I CAN STATE I'LL BE GLAD TO STATE, UH, BUT IF Y'ALL WANT TO ASK ME ANYTHING, THAT'S FINE.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. SAN MIGUEL? YES.
YEAH, WHAT ARE YOU PLANNING TO DO WITH THE PROPERTY? WHAT ARE YOU GOING LOOKING TO BUILD THERE, IF ANYTHING? YEAH, I MEAN, UM, SOMETHING SMALL.
IT'S NOT GONNA BE NOTHING LIKE HOW YOU SAY LIKE A BIG EVENT THING OR FOR ANYTHING LIKE BARS OR NOTHING LIKE THAT.
NO, NOTHING WILL DISTURB OR HOW YOU SAY AFFECT THE LOCAL NEIGHBORHOOD AREA.
SOMETHING SMALL, SOMETHING QUAINT LIKE, UH, HOW YOU SAY, A SMALL, UH, STORAGE AREA UNIT, MAYBE A SMALL CORNER STORE AT THE MOST.
I KNOW Y'ALL WERE TALKING SOMETHING ABOUT FOOD TRUCKS.
THAT WAS ANOTHER IDEA OF MINE, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S GONNA BE SUCH A, I GUESS, GOOD IDEA WITH Y'ALL AT THE MOMENT.
I'M HOPING THAT IT'LL GET TO BE A LITTLE BIT MORE EXPANDED.
I DON'T SEE ANYTHING WRONG WITH THE FRUIT TRUCK BUSINESS OR THING.
I MEAN FOR PEOPLE TO COME IN AND, YOU KNOW, WANT TO EXPAND THEIR LITTLE, YOU KNOW, BUSINESS ON THAT.
UH, AS FAR AS I KNOW, UM, I'M TRYING TO MAKE THIS A LITTLE BIT BETTER FOR HOW YOU SAY BAYTOWN, TO HAVE A LITTLE BIT, UH, GET NOTICED AND ALSO TO, FOR IT TO GROW BECAUSE IT'S GROWING.
IT'S ALREADY, IT'S THAT AREA'S BEEN, HOW YOU SAY, UH, IT'S BEEN LIKE A LOCAL PROMISING THING FOR BUSINESSES OR COMMERCIAL FOR A LONG TIME AND I KIND OF WANT TO JUST TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THIS, YOU KNOW, INSTEAD OF HAVING TO GO SOMEWHERE ELSE OR MOVE SOMEWHERE ELSE AND SAY, HEY, I CAN DO BETTER OVER HERE WHERE I'M ALREADY AT THE AREA WHERE I PRETTY MUCH HAVE THAT OP OPPORTUNITY AND PRIVILEGE TO DO THAT, BUT YOU KNOW, I HAVE TO COME HERE AND TALK WITH Y'ALL ABOUT IT AND GET Y'ALL HOW YOU SAY, I GUESS PERMISSION OR APPROVAL FOR IT, WHICH IS, IS IT'S UNDERSTANDABLE.
AND UH, I MEAN, LIKE I SAID, I'M GRATEFUL FOR BEING HERE AND I THANK Y'ALL FOR GIVING ME THIS TIME AND UH, THAT'S SOMETHING I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO DOING.
IT'LL HELP A LOT OF THE AREA, A LOT OF THE OTHER PEOPLE TOO, LIKE MAYBE OTHER RESIDENTS, NEIGHBORS MAYBE WANTING TO THINK ABOUT DOING SOMETHING SIMILAR, YOU KNOW, NOT OUT OF HAND TO WHERE IT'S, YOU KNOW, HOW YOU SAY MIGHT BE AFFECTING THE NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT IT'LL BE ABLE TO INNOVATE AND BRING MORE UH, I GUESS JUST MORE CIRCULATION MOTION TO WHAT BAYTOWN CAN BE AND HELP IT KEEP IT GROWING AND MAKE IT LOOK BETTER AND HAVE PEOPLE SAY, HEY, THIS IS A PRETTY QUAINT INTERESTING TOWN THAT'S, LET'S KEEP COMING HERE, COMING BACK AND MAYBE BRING MORE PEOPLE THAT ARE SUITABLE FOR IT.
YOU KNOW? I, I FEEL LIKE IT'S A LOT OF HOW YOU SAY I'M OPTIMISTIC ABOUT IT, NOT THAT'S SOMETHING I WANT TO BRING.
IT'S BEEN SOMETHING I'VE BEEN WANTING TO DO FOR A WHILE.
THE FIRST THING THAT CAME TO MIND FOR ME WAS, IS THE FOLKS THAT LIVE NEXT DOOR, WOULD THEY BE PULLING INTO THEIR DRIVEWAY BEHIND A WAREHOUSE? I THINK EVERYBODY COULD FILL ME ON THAT ONE, RIGHT? WELL THAT GENERAL COMMERCIAL DOES NOT ALLOW FOR WAREHOUSES.
AND, AND I THINK, UM, WE, WE HAD A CONVERSATION ABOUT THIS, UM, YOU KNOW, WITH STAFF PLANNING STAFF AND, AND WE, WE KIND OF TALKED THROUGH THE FACT THAT WHILE IF, UM, TIM, CAN YOU TAKE IT BACK TO SOME OF THOSE PHOTOGRAPHS THAT YOU HAD UP BEFORE? SO IF YOU'VE DRIVEN THROUGH THERE, UM, AS YOU CAN SEE IF, UH, NO GO, GO BACK TO THE, THE STREET PHOTOS.
YEAH, LIKE START THERE AND YOU COULD SEE IN THAT FIRST PHOTO THERE WAS ACTUALLY A SMALL WAREHOUSE THAT'S ALREADY LOCATED THERE.
THAT'S IN THE, IN THE BACKGROUND.
THAT'S THE ONE THAT'S UP AGAINST JOHN MARTIN.
AND AS YOU GO FURTHER, UH, TOWARDS THE EAST, IT LOOKS MORE LIKE, YEAH, STAY RIGHT THERE.
THE UH, UM, AS YOU GO BACK TOWARDS THE EAST, YOU CAN SEE THAT IT'S MUCH MORE, UM, RESIDENTIAL IN NATURE.
UM, BUT WHERE YOU'RE HEADED NOW, NOW GO TO THE LARGER, UM, AERIAL TIM, AS YOU CAN SEE, THIS IS A CONNECTOR FROM SAN JACINTO BOULEVARD TO JOHN MARTIN ROAD.
OVER TIME, THIS WHOLE AREA WILL LIKELY BECOME COMMERCIAL.
AND SO AS YOU LOOK AT IT FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE, FROM A PLANNING PERSPECTIVE, THIS ACTUALLY DOES MAKE A LITTLE BIT OF SENSE.
WE IMAGINE THIS WOULD BE THE FIRST OF SEVERAL TO COME THROUGH, UM, WITH THE SAME TYPE OF REQUEST.
SO EVEN THOUGH MR. SAN MIGUEL IS NOT QUITE SURE YET WHAT HE WANTS TO GO THERE, THIS WOULD ALLOW HIM TO START EXPLORING HIS OPTIONS.
I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS FOR STAFF.
SO, UM, THIS PROPERTY'S IN CITY, IT'S IN THE CITY LIMITS.
THERE WAS A HOUSE ON THIS PROPERTY BEFORE, WASN'T THERE? YEAH, THERE WAS.
DID YOU OWN THAT HOUSE OR DID YOU BUY YEAH, IT WAS MY HOUSE.
SO I'M ASSUMING THAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD, THE RESIDENCE HAD BEEN NOTIFIED.
WE SENT NOTICES OUT TO ALL OF THEM.
DID WE GET ANY NEGATIVE RESPONSES? NOTHING MORE WORLD.
NOT I'M AWARE OF AT THE MOMENT.
WHAT, WHAT IS THE WIDTH OF THE PROPERTY? ACROSS THE FRONT IS, LET SEE, IF WE HAVE A, WE NEED TO MEASURE
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IT, YOU, YOU'D HAVE TO GO TO THE G TO MEASURE IT TO, IT'S, IT'S PROBABLY 0.8.IT'S PROBABLY 80 TO A HUNDRED FEET.
THAT'S A, IT'S AN EYEBALL GUESS MORE.
SO, WELL, I GUESS MY A SOMEWHAT CONCERN IS THAT'S PRETTY NARROW PIECE OF PROPERTY TO PUT THAT IN THE RESIDENTIAL AREA.
AND THAT'S A TWO-LANE STREET THAT'S NOT A VERY LARGE STREET AND IT'S GOT DEEP DITCHES AND DOESN'T HAVE SEWER IN THERE AND THAT KIND OF ACTIVITY THAT GONNA CREATE SOME, I'M GONNA CREATE SOME TRAFFIC ISSUE WITH PEOPLE GETTING IN AND OUTTA THAT PROPERTY IN THERE.
AND I'M NOT SURE HOW BIG OF A BUSINESS THAT YOU COULD PUT IN THERE.
UM, WOULD THAT NARROW A STRAIGHT AND THAT NARROW? I MEAN, YOU PUT A STORE IN THERE, YOU'RE GONNA INCREASE SOME TRAFFIC IN THERE.
I I'M, I'M, I'M OPEN TO DIFFERENT SUGGESTIONS TOO.
THAT'S, THAT'S WHY I'M HEARING, I'M BE GLAD TO WORK WITH YOU ON THAT.
IT'S APPROXIMATELY, IT'S APPROXIMATELY 97 FEET.
SO, SO 18 WHEELERS ONLY REQUIRE A MINIMUM OF 40 UP TO ABOUT 60 TO TURN IN.
SO THERE WON'T BE, I DON'T THINK OKAY.
SO, SO WITH ANYTHING THAT COMES IN THAT'S OF A COMMERCIAL NATURE, IF THEY BELIEVE IT'S GONNA BE OVER A CERTAIN NUMBER OF TRIPS PER DAY, THEY WILL BE REQUIRED TO, UH, SUBMIT A TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS TO THE CITY, WHICH WILL THEN, UH, CARRY RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE CITY OR, OR REQUIREMENTS FROM THE CITY TO SAY YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO DO IMPROVEMENTS TO THE ENTRY TO THE STREET ITSELF.
MAYBE PUT IN A, A TURNING LANE OR SOMETHING.
NOT, NOT HERE, BUT JUST IN A GENERAL SENSE.
THOSE ARE THE TYPES OF THINGS THAT WE SEE AS, AS REQUIREMENTS FROM THE CITY.
UM, SO THAT'LL HAVE TO BE DONE AGAIN IF IT'S MORE THAN, I THINK, IF IT'S MORE THAN A HUNDRED TRIPS A DAY, I THINK THAT'S THE ENGINEERING, UM, THRESHOLD FOR THAT TIA.
SO WE WILL HIT SOME OF THOSE DETAILS, UM, AS PROPOSALS FOR NEW BUSINESSES COME IN, BUT UNTIL THEN IT'S KIND OF IMPOSSIBLE TO SAY COULD, COULD IT BE MADE TO WORK? IT ALL DEPENDS AND UH, AND I WOULD TELL YOU THAT YOU CAN ENGINEER ANYTHING AS LONG AS YOU THROW ENOUGH MONEY AT IT.
SO, UM, BUT THAT SAID, IF IT CREATES A PROBLEM FOR CONNELLEY ROAD, THEN THERE WILL BE RECOMMENDATIONS, UM, TO, TO ALLEVIATE THOSE PROBLEMS. YEAH.
ANY KIND OF A BUSINESS YOU PUT IN THERE, RESTAURANT, A STORE OR WHATEVER IS GONNA HAVE DELIVERIES COMING TO IT.
IT MAY NOT BE 18 WHEELERS, BUT IT, IT, YOU KNOW, GET THE BUD LIGHT TRUCK IN THERE.
I MEAN SOME OF THOSE, YOU KNOW, ARE PRETTY SIGNIFICANT AND THAT, THAT I, I JUST CAN SEE A PROBLEM WITH THAT PULLING OUT ON THAT STREET AND INTERFERING WITH TRAFFIC IN THAT AREA COMING AND GOING ON THAT.
THAT'S JUST NOT A VERY WIDE STREET IN THAT PROCESS.
YEAH, I CAN KIND OF UNDERSTAND WHEN YOU SAID THE BUD LIGHT THING, UH, IF IT'S GONNA BE LIKE A SMALL CORNER STORE YEAH, THEY HAD TO GO THROUGH THE NECESSARY THINGS TO GET THE LICENSES PERMITS AND STUFF IF THEY'RE GONNA BE SELLING ALCOHOL, BUT WE DON'T KNOW THAT FOR SURE IF THAT'S GONNA BE THAT KIND OF, UH, HOW YOU SAY BUILDING, IT'S GONNA BE A SMALL, FROM MY TARGET OR MY GOAL ON THAT, IT'S, IT'S GONNA BE SOMETHING SMALL, SO IT WON'T BE NOTHING TOO HUGE.
AND LIKE I SAID, IT'S NOT GONNA BE EVENTS, IT'S NOT GONNA BE A BAR.
SO WE'RE GONNA BE THANKFUL FOR THAT.
SO IT'S NOT GONNA DISRUPT THE COMMUNITY OR THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
I UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT NO MATTER WHAT YOU PUT IN THERE, IF IT'S A RETAIL TYPE ESTABLISHMENT, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE LARGER THAN CAR TRAFFIC COMING IN AND OUT THERE.
IF IT'S HAVE A STORE AND MAYBE NOT BUD LIGHT, BUT YOU'RE GONNA HAVE COCACOLA TRUCK.
WELL I LIKE WHAT THIS GENTLEMAN RIGHT HERE SAYS, AND HEY, I THANK YOU, YOU GOT A GOOD HEAD ON YOUR SHOULDER AND YOU, YOU'RE VERY OPTIMISTIC AND YOU INSPIRE PEOPLE.
AND UH, LIKE WHAT HE SAID, JUST SAID, IF IT COMES TO CERTAIN THINGS, WHOEVER ME OR THE PERSON THAT'S GONNA INVEST IN THAT PROPERTY WITH ME WILL BE GLAD TO COME OVER HERE AND WORK OUT THE NECESSARILY PAPERWORK PERMITS OR LEGALIZATION, WHATEVER'S NECESSARY REQUIRED TO GET THAT TO GO THROUGH WITH Y'ALL AND TO HAVE THAT AT A, HOW YOU SAY, IF IT'S, IF IT'S A BUILDUP, WE'LL HAVE THAT PUT AS IN A MINIMUM.
SO IT WON'T BE SO MUCH OF A PROBLEM.
SO CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE MAP, THE OVERLAY OF THE PROPERTY COMMISSIONER BEARD, IF IT HELPS YOU, I CAN SHARE WITH YOU THAT I RECENTLY LOOKED AT A VERY SIMILAR PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT I WAS GOING TO PUT, UH, A COMMERCIAL PROJECT ON AND THE CITY HAS VERY STRINGENT RULES AS FAR AS WHAT YOU CAN AND CAN PUT WHERE, ET CETERA.
SO HE'S GONNA BE VERY, VERY LIMITED TO WHAT HE CAN ACTUALLY DO ON THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY.
SO I THINK YOUR FEARS ARE, ARE, UM, UNWARRANTED THAT HE'S NOT GONNA BE ALLOWED TO DO ANY OF THOSE BIG PROJECTS LIKE THAT ON THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY.
SO, SO THE PROPERTY BEHIND THE WAREHOUSE, THAT,
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THAT, THAT BETWEEN IT IN THE WAREHOUSE THAT'S OWNED BY THE WAREHOUSE? YES.THE LARGER RIGHT THERE AT THE CORNER OF CON AND JOHN MARTIN, THAT WAREHOUSE BUILDING A PIECE OF LAND IS VACANT BETWEEN IT.
AND THIS, THIS PROPERTY, IS THAT OWNED BY THE WAREHOUSE PEOPLE? YES.
IF YOU LOOK TO GIVE IT SOME, SOME PERSPECTIVE, YOU CAN SEE LIKE THOSE VEHICLES, HOW SMALL THEY'RE COMPARED TO WIDTH.
IT'S JUST THE PROPERTY'S REALLY LONG AND THE PERSPECTIVE'S REALLY WEIRD FOR US, BUT IT, THERE'S MORE THAN ENOUGH TURNING LANE IF LIKE A LARGE, IF A DELIVERY TRUCK HAS TO DROP OFF SOMETHING, I WORK AT A SCHOOL, I GOT A DRIVEWAY, THIS IS WIDE AS MY DRIVEWAY AND I GOT 18 WHEELERS I GOTTA DEAL WITH WHEN THEY'RE DROPPING OFF MILK IN THE MORNING WHEN I'M TRYING TO PARK.
UM, I DON'T, I DON'T THINK, AND I, AND I ALSO THINK, I ALSO AGREE WITH WITH MARTIN THAT SAYS WHEN HE SAYS THAT THIS PLACE IS GONNA BE, ONCE THIS THING STARTS TAKING OFF, ONCE THE MARKETPLACE COMES IN, IT IT THAT WHOLE THING'S GONNA CHANGE.
WE'RE STILL IN THE PUBLIC HEARING, CORRECT? MM-HMM.
HOW A QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT, HOW LONG HAVE YOU OWNED THE PROPERTY? UH, I'VE OWNED IT, I GUESS YOU CAN SAY NOW FOR MAYBE A LITTLE BIT CLOSE TO 40 YEARS NOW.
I GUESS LET, LET ME SAY, LET'S GO BACK TO 2000 AND UH, FOUR.
I'M NOT TOO GOOD AT MATH AUTOMATICALLY IN MY HEAD, BUT THAT WOULD BE LIKE, UH, 20 YEARS, RIGHT? 20 YEARS.
THERE'S NO ONE ELSE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK, SO I NOW CLOSE THIS PUBLIC HEARING.
CONCERNING A REQUEST TO AMEND THE OFFICIAL ZONING MAP TO REZONE APPROXIMATELY 1.02 ACRES LOCATED AT 2211 CONNOLLY ROAD FROM SUBURBAN RESIDENTIAL S SAR TO GENERAL COMMERCIAL GC ZONING DISTRICT.
I NEED A, UH, IS THERE A MOTION ABOUT THE ITEM SIX B AS JUST READ? I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE, UH, ZONING.
IT'S SIX B, CORRECT? IT IS SIX B.
ALL IN FAVOR? AND THE DISCUSSION? AYE AYE, AYE.
ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION? NO.
THE ONLY STATEMENT THAT I WANTED TO MAKE ON THIS IS I THINK THAT IT'S GREAT THAT, UM, THERE IS A SOMETHING THAT IS COMING AND, AND IT IS SOMETHING THAT THE APPLICANT WANTS TO DO BECAUSE THIS PROPERTY IN THIS AREA WAS A PART OF AN INVOLUNTARY ANNEXATION WHERE THOSE PROPERTY OWNERS DID NOT HAVE A CHOICE TO THE MATTER OF THEIR PROPERTIES.
SO I'M REALLY EXCITED TO SEE THAT THERE'S SOMETHING THAT YOU WANNA MAKE OF THIS AND WE CAN BE SUPPORTIVE OF IT.
ALL OPPOSED? ANY ABSTENTIONS? SIX FEET PASSES.
[a. Receive a report from the Planning Director.]
ITEM SEVEN A.TIM, CAN YOU BRING THE SCREEN BACK UP OUR DIRECTOR'S REPORT? OH, DID YOU DO THAT? OKAY,
SO HOPEFULLY EVERYBODY GOT THEIR PACKETS ON WEDNESDAY OF LAST WEEK, SO YOU GOT A COUPLE EXTRA DAYS TO LOOK AT IT.
THAT WAS A PROMISE WE MADE AT THE LAST TRAINING, SO WE MANAGED TO PULL THAT ONE THROUGH.
SO, UM, AND NOT HAVING AN ASSISTANT DIRECTOR HERE ANYMORE, UH, MADE IT A LITTLE MORE CHALLENGING, BUT WE MANAGED TO PULL IT OFF.
SO WE WILL TRY TO CONTINUE THAT TREND AND MAYBE EVEN GET A LITTLE MORE TIME WHERE WE CAN, UM, WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT YOU ALL HAVE PLENTY OF TIME TO GO THROUGH YOUR PACKAGE.
SO, UM, ALRIGHT, SO SOME ITEMS THAT CITY COUNCIL HAS TAKEN SOME ACTION ON.
UM, FIRST UP THERE WAS A HALF AC HALF ACRE REZONE ON ALEXANDER AND FAIL ON THAT NORTHEAST CORNER.
UM, THAT WAS A REZONE FROM MIXED USE TO NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL THAT WAS APPROVED BY COUNCIL IN FEBRUARY.
UM, THERE WAS A SPECIAL USE PERMIT FOR AN 190 FOOT CELL TOWER AND NEEDLE NEEDLE POINT ROAD, UM, THAT WAS ALSO APPROVED BY COUNCIL IN FEBRUARY.
AND THEN A CITY SPONSORED REZONE OF FIVE AND A HALF ACRES ALONG I 10.
I MENTIONED THIS DURING MY TEXT AMENDMENT, UM, PRESENTATION THAT WAS REALLY A KIND OF A CLEANUP ITEM FROM SAN JACINTO THREE TO FREEWAY COMMERCIAL, UM, THAT WAS APPROVED BY COUNCIL LAST WEEK.
UM, AND THEN ALSO THE DEVELOPMENT FEES.
UM, I THINK I MENTIONED IT TO THE BOARD, BUT WE DIDN'T ACTUALLY HEAR IT AS AN ITEM BECAUSE IT WASN'T SOMETHING THAT HAS TO GO THROUGH.
UM, PLANNING, ZONING, COMMISSION, UM, THOSE DEVELOPMENT FEES WERE UPDATED.
THEY WERE ADOPTED, UH, TO INCREASE FEES FOR THE FIRST TIME SINCE 2015.
THOSE FEES WILL GO INTO EFFECT ON APRIL 1ST.
UM, THAT WAS NUMBER ONE TO GIVE PEOPLE A CHANCE TO KINDA GET USED TO THE IDEA ANYBODY COMING IN FOR, FOR, UM, FOR NEW APPLICATION, BUT ALSO, UM, TO GIVE US TIME TO PUT IT INTO THE SYSTEM BECAUSE IT DOES TAKE A LITTLE BIT OF TIME, A LITTLE BIT OF, OF
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COMPUTER WORK TO GET IT INTO OUR INTEGRAL SYSTEM.UM, UH, COUNCIL HAS ALSO INSTRUCTED STAFF.
THEY WANT US TO KEEP LOOKING AT WAYS TO KIND OF CONTINUE TO INCREASE SOME OF OUR COST RECOVERY.
AND BY THAT I MEAN THE, THE COST THAT IT IS TO THE CITY TO PROVIDE THE SERVICE.
SO, UM, ANYTIME THAT TIM AND LAMIA AND DIMITRI AND I GO INTO A MEETING THAT'S AN HOUR'S WORTH OF OUR TIME.
WHAT DOES IT COST TO PAY US AND BE THERE? SO, UM, WE ARE LOOKING AT, UH, AN EVEN MORE DEPTH LOOK AT THE FEES AS WELL AS SOME OTHER TYPES OF COST RECOVERY, UM, FOR THROUGHOUT THE REST OF THIS YEAR.
UM, SO, UH, WE'LL KEEP YOU UPDATED.
UH, SHOULD WE MOVE FORWARD WITH ANY OTHER, UM, FEE UPDATES? AND THAT IS, THAT ENDS MY REPORT.
HAVING EXHAUSTED ALL AGENDA ITEMS, THIS MEETING IS NOW ADJOURNED AT 6:22 PM THANK YOU EVERYONE.