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[ CITY OF BAYTOWN NOTICE OF MEETING BAYTOWN CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN (CIP) COMMITTEE THURSDAY, MARCH 13, 2025 4:00 P.M. HULLUM CONFERENCE ROOM, BAYTOWN CITY HALL 2401 MARKET STREET, BAYTOWN, TEXAS 77520 AGENDA CALL TO ORDER AND ANNOUNCEMENT OF QUORUM ]
THIS IS THE BAYTOWN CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT COMMITTEE.THURSDAY, MARCH 13TH, 2025 AT 4:05 PM WE DO HAVE A QUORUM IN THE HOLLAND CONFERENCE ROOM CITY BAYTOWN CITY HALL.
UM, I'M GONNA CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER.
[a. Discuss Potential 2025 General Obligation Bond.]
FIRST ITEM OF BUSINESS IS DISCUSSED POTENTIAL 2025 GENERAL OBLIGATION BOND, I'M ASSUMING TURN GO WITH FRANK.OR FRANK THE UNLESS YOU HAVE FRANK OBJECTION.
UM, REALLY, UH, THIS IS JUST A CONTINUATION OF THE PROCESS THAT WE STARTED.
UM, WE WILL COVER, UM, JUST KIND OF THE PROPOSED RANKING AND, UM, PRIORITIZATION.
UH, WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR IS, UM, AN OFFICIAL RECOMMENDATION FROM THIS BODY.
UH, WE'VE PROVIDED A SUMMARY SHEET THAT, UM, BASED ON THE INITIAL STAFF RANKING, UM, SEPARATES THINGS INTO, UH, DIFFERENT, UM, DIFFERENT PACKAGE, POTENTIAL PACKAGE AMOUNTS.
UM, AND SO WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR IS YOUR RECOMMENDATION, UM, WHETHER SHIFTING PROJECTS UP AND DOWN, THAT SORT OF THING, UH, TO BE ABLE TO THEN GO TO THE FINANCE COMMITTEE AND GET THE RECOMMENDED AMOUNT.
SO, UM, ALRIGHT, UH, GRANT SENT THE AGENDA IS PRETTY BASIC.
UM, WE DO HAVE OUR PROJECTS THAT ARE RANKED, UH, STAFF RANKING.
UM, I WANTED TO GET YOUR FEEDBACK ON, ON THE RANKING AND, YOU KNOW, UM, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT WHAT'S PRESENTED HERE IN THE OTHER PROJECTS.
I, I THINK WE HAVE REVIEWED PROJECTS IN THE PAST, BUT, UH, WANT TO GO OVER THE SCOPE OF WHAT ANY OF THOSE INCLUDED, LEMME KNOW.
UM, THE THING THAT WE WANT TO GET FROM TODAY IS, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT DO YOU WANT TO SEND TO THE BOND COMMITTEE AS FAR AS, YOU KNOW, PROJECTS AND HOW, HOW MANY AND WHAT DO YOU WANT TO GET FROM THE BOND COMMITTEE COUNCIL? WHAT KIND OF DELIVERABLE ARE YOU LOOKING FOR FROM THE BOND COMMITTEE? DO YOU WANT RANKINGS, A CUTOFF OF CERTAIN PROJECTS? SO, UM, SAY FIRST, FIRST ITEM IS THE CANDIDATE PROJECT AND THE RANKING.
AND WE UNDERSTAND BETWEEN THE FINANCE COMMITTEE AND CIP THERE'S BEEN DISCUSSIONS ABOUT, UM, MAKING DIFFERENT LEVELS OF FUNDING MM-HMM
UM, SO WE WENT THROUGH AND RANKED THE PROJECTS AND GROUPED THEM INTO, YOU KNOW, UM, ROUND CATEGORIES, HUNDRED MILLION, 50 AND SO ON, UP TO 350.
UM, I DO ALSO HAVE SOME NOTES ON THE BACK THAT JUST KIND OF LET YOU KNOW WHAT WE ARE THINKING AS FAR AS, UH, HOW WE PRIORITIZE THINGS.
AND YOU, YOU MIGHT NOTICE THAT, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE PROJECTS THAT YOU WOULD THINK MAYBE HAVE SHOULD BE, UH, HIGH RANKING, MAYBE FARTHER DOWN THE LIST.
AND THAT'S BECAUSE WE TRIED TO PRIORITIZE PROJECTS THAT ARE DELIVERABLE WITHIN THE NEXT FIVE YEAR CYCLE.
SO, YOU KNOW, FOR EXAMPLE, I'VE GOT, YOU KNOW, GARTH ROAD SEGMENT, F SEGMENT FROM, YOU KNOW, UH, BAKER DOWN TO 1 46 MM-HMM
SO THAT ONE HAS NOT BEEN STARTED DESIGN YET, DOES NOT HAVE A DESIGN CONTRACT.
UM, AND IT HAS NO FUNDING IDENTIFIED.
SO, UM, THAT PROBABLY EVEN IF WE SAID, OKAY, LET'S GO'S GONNA TAKE ABOUT TO THE END OF THE FIVE YEAR CYCLE, DO YOU GET IT READY FOR CONSTRUCTION TO WHERE YOU CAN BID IT DOWN? YEAH, IT'D ONE THE NEXT BOND PROCESS, NOT IN THIS PROCESS.
SO THAT, THAT'S WHY YOU MIGHT SEE IT, YOU KNOW, LOWER ON THE RANKING.
WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THE ONES THAT ARE MORE DELIVERABLE OR A HIGHER PRODUCT.
DO YOU WANT TO JUST JUMP IN BECAUSE SURE.
I MEAN, WE, I MEAN FOR, I'VE BEEN LOOKING AT IT TOO.
SO KIND OF SEE CEDAR WAGON, LYNCHBURG WIDENING, PHASE ONE, TWO, NOT MUCH DESCRIPTION OF WHAT IS, WHAT IS THAT? OKAY.
UM, FROM WHERE TO WHERE? UM, SO IT IS, IT, IT'S THE PROJECT WITH HARRIS COUNTY.
UH, AND HARRIS COUNTY IS LEADING THE DESIGN AND IT GOES FROM, UH, GARTH ROAD TO JUST PAST JOHN MARTIN.
AND IT IS, UH, WIDENING THE, THE PAVEMENT TO,
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APPARENTLY IT'S TWO LANES.UH, THE, THE UM, CROSS SECTION WILL BE TWO LANES IN EACH DIRECTION WITH A CENTER TURN LANE OR IN SOME PLACES TURN CENTER TURN LANES.
ACTUALLY DEION THE CEDAR MILES HAVE TAKEN OFF FROM THE HARRIS COUNTY'S GOT FROM, FROM RIGHT THERE.
MILE DRIVER, POWELL ROAD BACK, THE CITY ANNEX ON EITHER SIDE OF THE, THE ROAD WE DID NOT ANN THE ROADWAY INSTALLS A HARRIS COUNTY PROJECT.
UM, BUT THEY ARE EXPECTING THAT WE TAKE, TAKE OVER THE ROADWAY AFTER IT'S CONSTRUCTED.
UM, IT WOULD ALSO GET RID OF THOSE DITCHES, INSTALL BOX CULVERTS.
AND THAT'S SOMETHING YOU THINK YOU GET DONE IN FIVE YEAR PERIOD.
SO IT'S BEING DESIGNED RIGHT NOW.
UM, THE HOLD UPS GONNA BE THE RIGHT OF WAY.
IT'S GONNA HOLD UP, YOU KNOW, TO THIS POINT, UM, I THINK IT COULD BE READY FOR CONSTRUCTION IN ABOUT TWO YEARS.
IT'S ABOUT HALFWAY THROUGH DESIGN AND, UM, WE WERE READY TO START LAND ACQUISITION.
WE DIDN'T HAVE ALL THE FUNDING AVAILABLE FOR LAND ACQUISITION, BUT, UM, THAT, THAT NEEDS, SO I, I THINK IT COULD BE, IT, IT WOULD BE RATED WITHIN THE FIVE YEAR CYCLE BECAUSE IT'S, IT'S GONNA AFFECT, IT KIND OF AFFECTS THE SAN CENTER BOULEVARD IN, IN THAT AREA.
'CAUSE THOMPSON ROAD, BECAUSE THOMPSON ROAD HAS VERY, VERY TIGHT AND I THINK IT'S A NECESSARY PROJECT.
I JUST WANT TO, AGAIN, I'M FOCUSING ON DELIVERABLE ON THE FIVE YEAR TERM.
IF IT'S KIND OF LIKE, WELL IT MAY BE SIX OR SEVEN, IT'S GONNA BUMP TO THE NEXT.
I MEAN, I'M GONNA BE JUST AS HARDCORE THAT AS I CAN GET BECAUSE THAT'S, THAT'S A BIG CHUNK OF MONEY.
UH, AND, AND MY TARGET, AS I'VE TALKED TO THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS, MY TARGET IS TO GET DOWN TO ABOUT 200, MAYBE 250 MILLION, 200 TO BE CLOSE TO MY TARGET.
BOND COMMITTEE WILL GET YOUR THIS LIST STAFF'S LIST IT JUST SAY YOURS IT STAFF'S LIST.
THEY'LL GET OUR PROPOSED LIST AND, AND THEN WITH THE DIRECTIVE OF TAKE THAT 200, 250, TRY TO GET IT DOWN TO ONE 50 TO 200.
THAT'S A GOOD, AND THAT'S, THAT'S A GOOD DIRECTION.
'CAUSE REALLY THE INPUT THAT I'VE BEEN GETTING, AND I DON'T KNOW ABOUT JAMES, BUT THE INPUT I'VE BEEN GETTING, THIS IS GONNA BE A TOUGH SELL.
AND, AND WE REALLY NEED TO FOCUS ON WHAT CAN WE REALLY DO IN THE FIVE YEAR PERIOD, DO IT WELL AND COME BACK TO THE CITIZEN SAYS, YEP, WE WENT TO YOU AS YOU ASKED, YOU GAVE US PERMISSION AND WE DID IT AND WE'RE GONNA COME BACK AGAIN AND WE'RE GONNA DO THE SAME THING AGAIN OVER THE NEXT FIVE YEARS.
BUILDING OUR CREDIT WAS CREDIT WITH, WITH THE SYSTEM.
SO, SO I THINK IT'S REAL IMPORTANT THAT SOME OF THOSE, IF YOU'RE NOT, AND, AND I'M WEIGHING HEAVY ON YOU FRANK, YOU'RE NOT REAL COMFORTABLE, THEN THEN WE CAN SLIDE OR LET'S SPLIT THE BABY.
'CAUSE SOMETIMES I KNOW THAT WE NEED TO DO DESIGN AND ACQUISITION TYPE STUFF UP FRONT AND LEAVE CONSTRUCTION MONEY TO THE NEXT THING SO THAT ON THE NEXT ROUND WE'RE READY.
ALL YOU GOTTA DO IS PASS A BOND AND WE CAN GO FORWARD.
SO, SO SOMETIMES THAT IS SOMETHING I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IS, UH, FUNDING DESIGN.
AND ANY OF YOU CAN APPLY FOR GRANTS, ANY OF THESE ON THIS LIST THAT YOU FEEL THAT, THAT MIGHT STRETCH A BIT LONGER.
BUT IF WE DID DESIGN AN ACQUISITION FUNDING UP FRONT, YEAH.
WE COULD SHORTEN THAT MONEY DOWN AGAIN, GET IT CLOSER TO THAT TARGET.
AND I THINK THAT WOULD BE AN EXCELLENT AND REALLY THAT IS PROBABLY THE CASE FOR AT LEAST THE STREETS AND RANGE PROJECTS, UH, UNDER FROM GARTH ROAD SEGMENT.
THERE ARE PARTS PROJECTS IN THERE, MAYBE MORE CONSTRUCTABLE, I DUNNO WHAT, SPEAK TO WHICH ONES YOU THINK COULD BE ACCOMPLISHED.
I WAS GONNA SAY THE, THE ONE THAT WE REALLY FEEL MOST CONFIDENT ABOUT IS THE WIN GRAY SPORTS COMPLEX, WHICH IS LISTED RELATIVELY HIGH.
UH, THAT YOU CAN STRA, WE AGREE WITH YOU.
UH, WE, WE LIKE TO DO A DESIGN ON THAT.
THAT'S TO GET UP AND OVER THE RAILROAD AND ALL THAT STUFF.
UH, WE HAVEN'T DONE THE DESIGN AT ALL FOR THAT.
AND THAT COULD BE ONE OF THOSE PROJECTS THAT LINGER ON FOREVER TOO.
MAYBE ABLE TO BACK ORDER, BUT ARE THOSE NEEDS OR WANTS? WHICH ONE? EITHER ONE OF THEM.
I PERSONALLY FEEL BOTH OF HER NEEDS IF YOU'RE ASKING ME HONESTLY.
BUT I, WHEN I TURNED TO THE AVERAGE CITIZEN THAT SAYS, YOU KNOW, I MAY RAISE YOUR TAX RATE 3 CENTS.
IS THAT A NEED? WHO WANT THE REASON, UH, WAYNE GRAY RANKED HIGH WAS BECAUSE IT'S UH, IT'S MORE OF AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
SO WE HAVE REGULAR FIELDS VERSUS ASTRO FIELDS.
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AND THAT'S A, THAT'S A WANT, NOT A NEED.WE ACTUALLY, THEY CANCEL TUR, WE BOOK TOURNAMENTS EXTREMELY REGULARLY.
WE CAN'T FACILITATE TOURNAMENTS BECAUSE THEY GET RAINED OUT JUST LIKE EVERY OTHER TOURNAMENT FIELD IN OUR AREA GET RAINED OUT.
THE ONLY TOURNAMENT FIELDS WITHOUT TURF IN OUR AREA.
AND I KNOW THAT'S A BIG THING IN BASEBALL, BUT I MEAN IT'S ALSO KIND OF COME BACK TO WHAT'S OUR RETURN ON INVESTMENT OF THESE TERM FIELDS.
I GET WE WANTED IT AND THEN WE'RE HOSTING TOURNAMENTS, BUT THE TOURNAMENT DIRECTOR'S MAKING A LOT MORE MONEY WHEN THOSE TURF FIELDS ARE THERE.
BUT WHAT ARE WE MAKING WE GETTING OUTTA THAT? YOU KNOW, I MEAN YOU COULD GET INTO ECONOMIC IMPACT OF THOSE SPORTS TOURISM ON THAT IF YOU WANT TO.
BUT THE, UH, ACTUAL DOLLAR AMOUNT OF IT, YOU'RE RIGHT, WE HAVE A 30 TEAM TOURNAMENT COMING OUT THIS WEEKEND TO PLAY GOOD WEATHER.
SO WE'RE ACTUALLY GONNA HAVE THAT COME TO FRUITION.
SO WE'LL HAVE 30 TEAMS PLAY OUT THERE SATURDAY AND THEN THE CHAMPIONS OF THAT TEAM OF THAT TOURNAMENT STAYING OVER IN OUR HOTELS TO COME BACK SUNDAY AND PLAY BUSINESS WEEKEND.
IF IT WAS RAINING, WE'D HAVE TO CANCEL THAT.
SO, AND PART OF THIS PROJECT ALSO, UH, CONSTRUCT PARKING THAT CAN BE USED WITH PIRATE SPACE, CORRECT? YEAH.
THIS INCLUDES THE PARKING LOT.
THAT'S THE ONE THAT THE LAND WAS ACQUIRED.
THAT WAS ACQUIRED BY ACROSS THE STREET.
SO IT HAD MULTIPLE, I WOULD CONSIDER ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DRIVERS FIRE AND, AND PARKING IN GENERAL FOR, UH, BOTH WAYNE GRAY AND BAY BECAUSE WOULD BE CONNECTED FOR ELS TO GO.
UM, BUT THIS IS FOR YOUR, YOU KNOW, INPUT THAT, THAT WAS THE REASONS STAFF RANKED IN HIGHER FIRE STATION FOUR.
THIS IS ONE TO ME THAT WE HAVEN'T BUILT TWO THAT THIS WOULD BE ONE THAT I'D LIKE TO SEE SOME TYPE OF BREAKOUT OF DESIGN, MAYBE SOME FUNDING FOR LAND ACQUISITION.
'CAUSE THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO MOVE THAT STATION.
WHAT'S THE SCHEDULE ON IT? THERE? THERE'S, THERE'S NOT ROOM THERE FOR THE JAMES STREET PROPERTY.
WE OWN FOR THE JAMES STREET PROPERTY.
THAT'S GONNA BE USED FOR DANIEL BEING DRAINAGE.
SO WE'RE GONNA BUILD A FIRE STATION ON IT.
HOW WE, HOW WE GOING TO USE IT.
WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THAT THROUGH, UM, RAIN STUFF TO SEE IF WE CAN USE IT AS PART OF THE DRAINAGE.
ACCOMMODATE THE DRAINAGE FIRST AND FOREMOST, IF THERE'S ROOM LEFT OVER, CAN WE A AUTHORIZATION ON THE WESTERN PORTION OF THE PROPERTY SO THAT YOU HAVE THE THREE ENTRYWAYS, UM, THREE STREETS THAT CAN ADDRESS IT.
THAT WOULD BE, I THINK DESIGN WILL BE JUST A GOOD SIGNAL THAT WE'VE REFER TO THE LINK TOWARDS THE DESIGN.
THAT'S, THIS IS ONE OF THE ONES THAT'S KIND THE 15 MILLION WE COULD SPLIT OUT WHAT, WHAT'S STATION TWO DESIGN COST ROUGHLY $30 MILLION? NO, NO.
SO, SO AGAIN, SO IF YOU DID, YOU KNOW, RIGHT AWAY IN DESIGN YOU COULD PROBABLY DO LIKE ONE OR 2 MILLION.
I MEAN 2 MILLION IS A LOT LESS THAN THE 15.
AND THAT GIVES US SOME, SOME FLEX.
WE WRITE IT UP CORRECTLY FOR THE, BUT THAT, YOU KNOW, SO THAT CUTS 13 MILLION OUT OF THAT FIRST NUMBER.
UM, SO, SO I'D LIKE TO SEE THAT BETWEEN THAT.
'CAUSE I MEAN THE THING IS LIKE WE, LIKE WE TALKED ABOUT, WE WANT THE BOND TO BE FIVE YEAR PROJECT.
WE WANNA GET THROUGH THIS FIVE YEARS AND WHAT, WHAT ARE WE, WHAT ARE WE GONNA PUT ON THE CREDIT CARD AND FOR THE FIVE YEARS RIGHT.
WE KNOW IT'S NOT ALL GONNA BE THAT HUNDRED MILLION, BUT SO SOME OF THESE DRAINAGE PROJECTS MM-HMM.
YOU HAVE TO APPLY FOR A GRANT.
AND THEN THERE'S, THERE'S USUALLY A LONG BETWEEN WHEN YOU APPLY, WHEN THEY LET YOU KNOW YOU'VE GOT THE GRANT.
UM, I DON'T THINK THOSE WOULD BE DELIVERABLE WITHIN THE FIVE.
WHAT ABOUT THAT WEST BAY? WE COULD GET STARTED WESTTOWN DRAINAGE.
BUT, UM, WELL, WEST BAYTOWN, YOU'RE ACTUALLY ON COUNCIL TONIGHT.
WE HAVE APPLICATION GRANT FOR THAT ONE.
WE'RE TRYING TO, WE'RE A LITTLE BIT AHEAD ON THAT BECAUSE IT WAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO, SO THE STREET PROJECTS, THE, THE CHACO D FEES, STERLING, THOSE ARE ALL, UH, WOULD BE ASPHALT.
AND WE DON'T NEED TO DO DESIGN ON THAT.
IT'S OUR ASPHALT REHAB CONTRACT.
OR IT'S DELIVERABLE LIKE WITHIN THE SAME HERE THAT INTO THREE.
UM, SO THE NUMBER THREE IS MORE THE NEIGHBORHOOD STREETS.
THESE ARE LARGE ENOUGH WHERE WE BROKEN OUT LIKE STREET FROM END TO END OR IS IT WEST? IT'S
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BECAUSE I DRIVE THOSE ON A REGULAR BASIS.I MEAN, TO ME THEY'RE NOT BAD.
BUT WE DON'T, THEM ALL WAY IS THEY'RE ASPHALT.
ASPHALT COULD GO BAD REALLY QUICKLY THOUGH.
PERFECTLY GRID STRAIGHT THIS YEAR IN TWO YEARS FROM NOW.
THAT'S WHY ARE WE ASKING FOR YOU DON'T THINK I WENT UP AND DROVE ON CHAKA? CHAKA NEEDS SOME HELP.
I MEAN, THAT THAT ONE WAS HIGHER.
YEAH, THAT ONE NEEDS SOME HELP.
IT WAS, IT WAS NOT AS GOOD AS, SO THAT'S, UH, NUMBER 10, 11 HERE, JAMES.
NO, I MEAN YOU'RE KIND OF GOING DOWN IN MY LOT, BUT I KNOW, YOU KNOW, I WISH I'D HAD A EXCEL SHEET BECAUSE I COULD HAVE MOVED IT ALL AROUND YEAH.
WE WOULDN'T HAVE HAD A CHANCE TO TALK SO MUCH, MIKE.
I MEAN, BECAUSE LIKE I SAY, WHEN, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THE CEDAR BAR WIDENING, LIKE WE SAID, YOU KNOW, IT'S 62 MILLION, BUT IT'S 62 MILLION OVER EIGHT YEARS.
IT'S MORE OF AN EIGHT YEAR PROJECT THAN IT IS A FIVE YEAR PROJECT.
THE THING THAT'S DRIVING THAT WOULD BE THE PARTNERSHIP WITH HARRIS COUNTY.
I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG WE PUT THEM OFF.
YOU KNOW, ONCE ONE, ONCE IT IS FULLY DESIGNED AND THEY'RE READY TO BID IT, HOW LONG ARE THEY GONNA, WE, WE NEED TO HAVE THAT, THAT, THAT THE LOAN ALREADY APPROVED THAT, THAT'S MY CONCERN.
I'M GONNA SAY BE AND STIRLING.
WAIT, I'LL LEAVE ELCO A LITTLE BIT.
AGAIN, IT WASN'T, TO ME IT WASN'T AS BAD AS ELCO, BUT I'M EL ELCO WAS NEEDED.
YEAH, NOCO WAS, I DROVE IN AND WENT AND THAT WAS KIND OF MY, THAT WAS MY GAUGE.
IT'S LIKE, OKAY, IF THIS ONE'S ON THE LIST, THEN I DROVE STERLING AND THEN I DROVE FEED AND WENT AND THEN LO BIT WAS SOMEWHERE IN BETWEEN AND WENT.
SO, SO USING ONCO AS A GAUGE, I WOULD, I WOULD COMMEND UPCO TOO.
AND IF ONE OF THOSE TRULY FAILS OVER THE NEXT FOUR OR FIVE YEARS, YOU GET THE ANNUAL, WE GET SMALLER STREETS.
YOU CAN COME BACK AND YOU SAY, MR. LESTER, YOU WERE A FOOL.
AND I'LL SAY, OKAY, WE PROVE TO FIX THAT SPOT.
UH, THE NORTH ALEXANDER SIGNAL RELOCATION.
YOU, YOU EXPLAINED THAT TO ME ONCE BEFORE WE REFRESH MY MEMORY.
IT'S TO REPLACE ALL THE TRAFFIC SIGNALS ALONG THE ALEXANDER.
UM, WE DESIGNED HALF OF THE SIGNALS.
WE HAVE A DESIGN SHELF RIGHT NOW.
SO YOU'RE READY TO GO FOR ABOUT HALF OF THAT.
WE JUST DIDN'T HAVE CONSTRUCTION.
WE PLANNED IT IN A FUTURE CIP AND THIS GUY CUT, PULL THEM OUT.
THE, THAT PART OF JUST, YOU GONNA PUT THEM ON THE CORNERS VERSUS THEY CAN BE RELOCATED.
UM, I DON'T KNOW IF THEY WERE GOING FARTHER BACK IN THE MEETING BECAUSE RIGHT WHERE THEY ARE, THEY'RE, YEAH, THAT'S, I REMEMBER THAT'S THE CONVERSATION WE HAD IS WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING BECAUSE I, I DON'T FARTHER INTO THE MEDIAN, I THINK THEY, BUT THAT, THAT WAS DOING THAT AND THE SIGNALS ARE VERY OLD.
THE SIGNAL BOXES ARE OLD AND THE CONDUIT, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE GET HEAVY RAINS, WE GET, UH, ELECTRICAL SHORTS OUT.
SO WE GET GOING INTO THE FLASH A LOT FOR THE WHOLE, IT JUST NEEDS TO BE DONE.
BUT, UM, UNDERSTAND YOU AND THIS FOR THE WHOLE 99 TO ONE SIX OR THAT FROM ABOUT TEXAS.
I'M TRYING, I THINK THIS IS FOR I, I'LL HAVE, I I THINK THIS IS FOR THE WHOLE STRETCH PHASE TWO.
WHERE'S THE PHASE TWO? I KNOW THERE'S AN F BUT I DIDN'T KNOW.
THERE'S, I I AGREE WITH MOVING FORWARD WITH THE NEXT
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SEVERAL PHASES I THINK BE ON THAT IT'S A BIG BIKE PROCEDURE BY YOU.BUT THAT'S, THAT'S, YOU ALLEVIATE SO MUCH THIS SWITCH TRAFFIC AND SAFETY'S BECAUSE IT'S REALLY GETTING, IT IS NARROW ROAD.
IT REALLY DOES GET BACKED UP IN THAT AREA.
I MEAN THAT'S KIND OF, IT'S MY BACKYARD AND IT PROVIDES A TRAIL, HAVE A SHARED USE PATH ALONG THE SOUTH SIDE THAT PROVIDE CONNECTION TO THE PARKSVILLE TRAIL SYSTEM.
IT WOULD BE A REALLY GOOD, DEFINITELY SKIPPED OVER THE MOBILITY NEIGHBORHOOD, STREET CONSTRUCTION, LANTER PARK, DOLPHIN CANVAS BAY.
I KNOW DOLPHIN AND CANVAS BAY ARE YES.
AFTER 20 PLUS YEARS OF WORKING ON FIRE OR HARBOR.
SO WE, WE HAVE SOMEBODY IN THIS PROJECT, UM, I I, I WAS TALKING TO MIKE ABOUT, I THINK WE HAVE ENOUGH PROJECT CURRENTLY TO DO THE BAY TOWER STREETS.
I CAN GET THAT OUT THE WAY WITH THE CAST WE HAVE ON HOLD.
AND THE SHORTFALL IS REALLY FOR LAND PARK AND YOU KNOW, IT'S A LOT MORE THAN WHAT WE ORIGINALLY BUDGET FOR THAT PROJECT.
SO I CAN'T DO ALL OF LAND PARK, BUT I MIGHT BE ABLE TO DO RIGHT NOW TO DO BAY HARBOR STREET AND THEN, YOU KNOW, UH, THIS, THE ATLANTA PARK COULD BE ON THE GEO PROBLEM.
AND HOW MUCH WOULD THIS LAND PARK BE? I THINK IT'S LIKE 11, IS THAT RIGHT? 12? YEAH.
IT'S ANOTHER ONE THAT WOULD BE RED.
SO WE RESET AGAIN, I'M LOOKING FOR PENNIES.
I'M TRYING TO, I'M TRYING TO GET A GOOD LIST OF WELL THERE'S A LOT.
BUT MY CHALLENGE, MY CHALLENGE TO THAT COMMITTEE IS GONNA BE TAKE THAT 200 DOWN TO ABOUT 50 OR LESS.
SO IF I CAN HELP GET A CLOSER, HAVE A QUESTION ON THAT.
UM, DO YOU ALL WANT THE BOND, UH, YOU, THE BOND COMMITTEE TO SEE PROJECTS, UH, BELOW THE ESTIMATED FUNDING LEVEL? I WANT 'EM TO SEE, I, I WANT 'EM TO SEE THE WHOLE DUST.
AND THEN I WANT THEM TO SEE HOW WE RANKED AND THE NUMBERS AND HAVE IT SPELLED OUT.
YOU KNOW, THAT'S LIKE THE 12 MILLION VERSUS 15 MILLION.
THE QUESTION WOULD BE WHY? WELL, BECAUSE WE MEAN WE'RE GONNA TRY TO FIND GOLF CANVAS BACK OUT CURRENT, THAT 12 MILLION IS REALLY FOR LAND PARK AND NINE IS 90%.
SO THAT'S WHERE, THAT'S WHERE I WANT TO GO.
THAT'S WHERE I'M TRYING TO GET IS SO THAT HAVE THE MAIN LIST, THEY HAVE OUR LIST AND THEN THEY'LL CREATE ANOTHER LIST WITH DIRECTOR.
WE SEND YOU A LIST OF APPROXIMATELY 200 MILLION, BUT THE FINANCE COMMITTEE SAYS ONE 20 FIVES IT SO THEY CAN START PULLING IT DOWN FROM THERE.
PLUS THE MORE INFORMATION THEY, WHICH IS, I MEAN YOU HAVE A LOT OF INFORMATION ON HERE BY FAR.
AND, AND, AND YOU KNOW, LETTING THEM SEE THIS, WE'RE TRYING TO DO A FIVE YEAR PLAN HELPS THEM UNDERSTAND THAT ALSO MM-HMM
AND THAT HEY THESE, WHERE WHERE THE TIMELINE IS LIKE, I MEAN I KNOW WE DON'T HAVE THEM TO LIKE ANTICIPATE TO START OF FUNDING NEEDED BY THIS, THIS YEAR.
AND JUST BE ANOTHER COLUMN, BUT LIKE, OKAY.
ESTIMATED FUND, LIKE FOR THIS ONE, LIKE FOR INSTANCE, ONE, ONE WOULD BE ESTIMATED FUNDING NEEDED 2026 WE FUNDING ON THE SECOND WOULD BE 20 28, 20 29 TOWARDS THE END OF THE BOND.
AND THAT WAY THEY CAN SEE THAT, HEY, WE'RE GOING FOR 150 BUT WE MIGHT ONLY USE ABOUT 130 OF IT RIGHT NOW.
OR LIKE YEAH, THIS IS OVER A FIVE YEAR PERIOD.
PHASE F MOVE IT DOWN TO THE BOTTOM, WE'RE GONNA KICK IT TO THE NEXT ROUND BECAUSE WE WON'T BE READY BY THAT TIME ANYWAY.
IF WE WANT TO FIND THE DESIGN COST.
THAT WOULD BE, THAT WOULD BE NICE FOR PHASE YEAH.
YEAH, BECAUSE YOU DON'T WANT, BECAUSE THE ISSUE IS YOU DON'T WANT TO SAY, OKAY, WE'RE WAITING NEED THE FUNDING ON THE, ON THE ON, ON THE DESIGN AND WE CAN'T GET THE FUNDING FOR ANOTHER TWO YEARS.
WELL THOSE TWO YEARS COSTS HAVE GONE UP.
WE'D RATHER HAVE THE, HEY, WE GOT A DESIGN, WE'RE READY TO GO.
WE JUST NEED THE MONEY TO COVER THE COST NOW TO GO FORWARD AND START.
START SCRAPING, GETTING THE EQUIPMENT OUT GOING.
THAT WOULD BE ONE THAT WOULD BE ON DESIGN.
WE JUST HAVE TO, AGAIN, NOT, SINCE WE'RE KICKING A COUPLE OF OTHERS, IT NOT MOVING UP THAT RANGE.
GOLD BROOK AND GARTH TO MAIN DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENTS.
I'M, I'M PRO DRAINAGE, SO I'M GOOD WITH THAT ONE.
THAT IS RANK HIGH BECAUSE IT IS A DRAINAGE TUBE.
UM, IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT THE HIGH NEED.
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A MODERATE DRAIN NEED, BUT UH, IT ALSO HAS POOR CONDITION.SO IF YOU NOTICE, YOU KNOW THAT, THAT MOST OF THE INLETS, THE, THE PAVEMENT HAS, YOU KNOW, STARTED COLLAPSED AND YOU GET A LOT OF, YOU KNOW, ROLLERCOASTER ON ROLLING WERE SAYING.
SO IT'S WATER DRAINAGE BUT ALSO A STREET DE THAT'S WHY I CONSIDER IT A HIGH.
IT UNLESS THEY STAYING AT WHERE AT THE ELEVATION THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO IN THE GARAGE.
GARAGE THE STREETS ARE MOVING.
BUT YOU SAID PAYMENT AND DRAINAGE WOULD BE RESOLVED IN THAT PROJECT.
WE WITH, SO IT'S A DRAINAGE BUT IT'S ALSO SIMILAR.
IT'S A DRAINAGE SLASH MOBILITY WEST.
MS. MAY, MAY, I HAVE NO CLUE IF IT DIDN'T GIVE US ANYTHING ON THIS.
THIS IS IN THE UM, UH, DRAINAGE MASTER POINT.
AND I THINK IT'S GOING ABOUT HIGHER THAN IT'S, IT'S HIGHER THAN
IT, IT'S PART ALONG CLOSE TO UH, 1 46.
YOU KNOW, I HAVE A SCOPE I, I'LL SEND YOU OUT THE, THE SCOPE.
I HAVE A PROJECT SCOPE FOR THIS PROJECT.
LAYS OUT MAPS THAT MAYBE FIVE.
IT WOULD BE THE JUST DO DESIGN THEM.
IT WOULD NOT PROBABLY BE CONSTRUCTION BECAUSE WE KIND OF GET HALF IS WORKING ONLY ONE PAGE FOR EVERYTHING.
WE HAVE, I THOUGHT THEY WERE SENT OUT ALREADY AND I, I WASN'T HERE LAST CIPI THOUGHT YOU WENT THROUGH IN MORE DETAIL.
SO WE WERE, WE WEREN'T HANGING OUT TOGETHER SOON.
SO THE BROOK IS YOU, YOU JUST WANT TO GO FORWARD WITH DESIGN FINDING ON BROOK OR OKAY MIKE, I APPRECIATE, IS THAT WHAT WE SAY? THESE DRAINAGE PROJECTS? THE FARM ROUTE? IF YOU COULD JUST DESIGN, I WOULD SET YOU UP FOR THE NEXT CYCLE TO GET CONSTRUCTION AND EVEN GRANTS.
IF YOU AND I HAVE VISITED OR YOU VISITED THIS
YOU GO TO A BOND, IT GETS PROVED WE'RE DIGGING GROUND THE NEXT DAY.
THAT, THAT'S SOME OF THE TWO OF THE GRANTS I'M GONNA TALK ABOUT TONIGHT.
UM, YOU KNOW, WE GOT A GRANT OPPORTUNITY WE WEREN'T EXPECTING, BUT PART OF A REQUIREMENT WAS THAT THE PROJECT BE COMPLETED IN TWO YEARS.
ONLY DO THAT IS IF IT'S SHOVEL RIP.
UH, SO WE HAVE TWO GRANTS THAT WE'RE APPLYING TO
IT'S BECAUSE THE DESIGN WAS RED.
SO THAT ONE IS, THERE'S
MM-HMM
UH, THE OUTFALL GOES THROUGH UM, LEE COLLEGE DOWN GULF.
BUT UM, THERE'S ONE SEGMENT OF IT THAT NEEDS TO BE UPSIZED.
AND AS THEY WERE DOING THE DESIGN ON THE CURRENT PROJECT, THEY NOTED THAT FOR AN ULTIMATE CONDITION IT COULD BE UPSIZED WITH THE SEGMENT.
UM, I THINK THE CURRENT PROJECT WILL WILL AATE A LOT OF THE RANGE ISSUES IN THAT AREA.
ONE WHERE THERE'S A DRAIN OVER THE TOUR WHERE S MIND MAINTAINING IT GOES TO, UH, BAL PARK.
THERE'S THAT ONE THROUGH LEE COLLEGE TO B THIS READY TO GO? NO, THAT ONES DESIGN DESIGN IDEA.
AND I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO SEE THE CURRENT CONTRACT AND THEN LET'S PUSH IT OFF.
I'D REALLY LIKE TO SEE THE, I'M JUST GOING DOWNS TRAIL PARK CONNECTS YOU TALKING ABOUT CONNECTING OVER TOS TRAIL.
JENKINS TRAIL IS THE ONE I WAS TALKING ABOUT EARLIER THAT THAT WOULD, I KNOW YOU TALKED ABOUT WANTS AND NEEDS.
IT, IT REALLY IS A NEED IN OUR OPINION.
IT WILL CONNECT THE UH, WHAT'S NOT A NEED.
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COME OUT TO BLUE HERON AND, AND SIT THERE ANY DAY OF THE WEEK.ON THE SUMMERTIME YOU'LL SEE KIDS TRYING TO NAVIGATE THAT CROSSING TO GET TO BAY DOWN'S.
ONLY REGIONAL PARK THAT CROSSING WOULD TAKE THE OSE CREEK TRAIL, THE 35 MILES OF TRAILS TO GO NORTH AND SOUTH.
IT WOULD CONNECT, UH, JENS PARK TO THAT.
AND THEN BY ASSOCIATION ALSO CONNECT ALL THE WAY TRAIL.
SO HUGE PIECE OF CONNECTIVITY.
IS IT ALREADY CONNECTED? MM-HMM.
IT'S A, IT IS A SMALL LITTLE TINY SECTION, BUT IT'S A COMPLICATED SECTION 'CAUSE THAT'S A UNION PACIFIC AND IT'S GOT, BUT IF YOU GO TO THAT SEGMENT, THE RAILROAD MADE US DO A PERIAL PROCESS.
SO, UM, BASICALLY THAT IT, IT NEEDS TO BE DESIGNED CORRECT.
IT'S A SAFETY ISSUE, BUT IT NEEDS TO BE DESIGNED AND THEN WE, YOU KNOW, WHERE WE'LL PULL THE PROCESS, IT WON'T MAKE THE FIVE YEAR CUT, BUT WE NEED TO AT LEAST START DESIGN.
START WITH THE DESIGN TO GET TO AT LEAST START MOVING IN THAT DIRECTION.
YOU HAVE THE TRAIL DEAD ENDS ESSENTIALLY INTO A ROAD RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM REGIONAL PARK THAT WOULD ADDRESS THAT.
APPARENTLY THE SCOPE IS ONLY INCLUDING FOR DESIGN OF THE TRAIL, DOESN CHANGE ALL OF THAT.
JUST TO FOCUS ON, SO THE 4 51, THIS 4 51 JUST FOR DESIGN, THAT'S NOT CLEARLY RIGHT.
JUST DESIGN, THAT'S JUST NO, IT'S, NO, THE FOUR 50 IS THERE FOR DRILL IMPROVEMENTS, WHICH DOES NOT INCLUDE, YOU READ THE ENGINEER'S NOTES.
IT DOESN'T INCLUDE THE ACQUISITION OF THE RIGHT OF WAY FOUR ALSO.
SO THERE'LL BE ADDITIONAL RIGHT OF WAY THAT'S NECESSARY.
IF YOU LOOK AT, UM, JUST, IT WAS RIGHT NEXT TO IT.
UH, MIKE, THE NEXT ONE IS THE BAYTOWN NATURE CENTER.
WE'D ACTUALLY LIKE TO FLIP FLOP THAT WITH 24, WHICH IS A COUPLE DOWN THEN WE LISTENED TO YOU LAST TIME.
I THINK IT WAS, UH, JAMES THAT SET THE, THE ACTUAL FACILITY INTO FACILITIES AND THAT APART 24.
WE WANT THAT ONE TO BE, WE WANT THE FLIP FLOP 24 AND 20.
WITHOUT THE BUILDING, WE DON'T NEED THE OTHER IMPROVEMENTS.
SO NUMBER UNIT A PARK, PHASE ONE UNIT, A PARK, UH, PHASE ONE WOULD BE TO PUT, UH, FOOTBALL FIELDS AT UNIT ED PARK.
CURRENTLY WE DON'T HAVE ANY, UH, WE DON'T HAVE ANY RECTANGULAR, UH, FOOTBALL FIELDS FOR KIDS TO PRACTICE ON AT ALL.
WE ACTUALLY, IF YOU GO OUT TO JENKINS PARK, THAT BIG BOTTLENECK AS YOU PULL IN, THAT'S ACTUALLY A TIFFY FOOTBALL TEAM UTILIZING A DISC GOLF COURSE PRACTICE OR FOOTBALL ON, TRY TO MOVE 'EM TO THE SOCCER PARK.
WE HAVE SOCCER LEAGUE GOING ON THERE IN ADDITION TO OTHER FOOTBALL TEAMS THAT YOU HAVE.
I MEAN, SO I KNOW, YOU KNOW, BEING INVOLVED WITH, WITH OPTIMUS AND, AND ALSO WITH, WITH SELECT FOOTBALL TEAMS, UM, THEY MAKE A LOT, THE SELECT ONES MAKE A LOT OF MONEY.
THEY CAN GO RENT THROUGH PARTS.
UH, I KNOW OPTIMUS IS ALL, IS IS, UH, MOVE A LOT OF VOLUNTEERING, A LOT OF NON-PROFIT.
IT HELPS OUT THE COMMUNITY AND THEY REALLY DON'T HAVE A FOOTBALL PROGRAM AS MUCH AS THEY USED TO FOR YOUTH FOOTBALL.
WHEN YOU SAY THEY CAN RENT THE PARKS, WHAT PARKS DO YOU FOR? WHAT? FOR FOOTBALL.
YOU SAID THAT THEY MAKE ENOUGH MONEY THEY CAN RENT THE PARK.
UH, YEAH, THE BRONCOS MAKE ENOUGH MONEY.
THEY, THEY, THEY WHAT THEY CHARGE ON THOSE PEOPLE.
THEY CAN GO RENT, THEY CAN RENT FROM GOOSE CREEK OR THEY CAN RENT FROM OTHER PEOPLE.
THEY, THEY CAN'T RENT FROM US IS MY POINT.
AND AND THAT'S THE THING IS THAT, BUT YOU KNOW, TRUST ME, I'M A HUGE FALL FAN AND I'VE SEEN FOOTBALL'S DECLINE IN BAYTOWN AND I DON'T, RIGHT NOW, I DON'T SEE WHERE IT'S IMPROVING ANYMORE TO, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF FOOTBALL FIELDS THAT ARE, THERE'S A LOT OF OPEN FIELDS, YOU KNOW, WHERE THEY CAN PRACTICE ON THAT.
UH, BECAUSE THE PROBLEM IS WHEN THEY DO ACTUALLY PLAY THE PRO FOOTBALL, THEY GO PLAY AT, THEY PLAY AT LEE LEE HIGH SCHOOLS.
OR YOU KNOW, OPTIMUS USED TO PLAY ON THE PRACTICE FIELD BESIDE THERE, UH, AND MAKE IT WORK.
I'M NOT SAYING IT DOESN'T WORK, BUT THE FUTURE OF FOOTBALL IS, FOOTBALL IS SEVEN ON SEVEN AND THAT'S GONNA BE MORE INDOOR THOUGH, WHICH IS WHAT WE'RE WORKING WITH ON SOME OTHER STUFF.
I THINK VECTOR WOULD COVER SOME OF THAT HONESTLY.
I'M JUST, I'M NOT TRYING TO BE NEGATIVE.
I JUST, I'M JUST KIND OF COMING OUTTA THAT WORLD.
HAVE COACH SEVEN SEVEN DONE WITH THAT AND I DON'T HAVE ANY, ANY WILL FOR YOU.
ONLY MY, MY POINT IS ILLUSTRATING THAT THE CITY OF OUR SIZE REALLY HAS ONE RECTANGULAR FIELD WITH LIGHTS THAT WE RENT.
AND IS A VILLAGE LANE, WHICH IS NOT THE BEST FACILITY.
THE CITY OF OUR SIZE SHOULD BE ASHAMED THAT WE DON'T HAVE MORE THAN ONE PRACTICE FIELD SIT AREA SIZE.
WE PROBABLY HAVE MORE PARKS PER CAPITA THAN ANYBODY ELSE.
SO LET'S NOT GO DOWN THAT ROAD.
I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE A PARK AND MAKE IT INTO A FOOTBALL FIELD.
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OUR PROBLEMS.NATURE CENTER, THAT'S WHERE WE WERE TALKING ABOUT FLIPPING NUMBER 28 24.
WE'D RATHER HAVE 24 IN THE 20 SPOT BECAUSE THAT IS THE ACTUAL BUILDING DOWN THAT 24 MILLION DOWN TO NUMBER 24.
SO IN THAT FACILITY, SO WE HAVE, WE HAVEN'T LOOKED AT, THIS IS AGAIN, WE'RE LIKE YOU LIKE MY COLLEAGUE TALKED ABOUT THE DESIGN AND EVERYTHING ON THIS 13 MILLION IS THE, IS WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR THE TOTAL COST? WE DO HAVE A DESIGN.
I'M NOT SURE IT'S THE ONE THAT WE WOULD END UP WITH.
IT'S AN OVER DESIGN AND I THINK THAT WE BETTER AND MORE EFFICIENT WITH LIBRARY.
I THOUGHT WE WERE CONTEMPLATING THE NEW LIBRARY WOULD BE INCORPORATED INTO VICTOR.
IF ANOTHER PROJECT, YOU ALL WANT TO EXPAND THE SCOPE OF THE LIBRARY AT VICTOR OR CONSIDER ANOTHER, UM, ANOTHER SPOT.
YOU WANNA ELABORATE ON THAT? ANY CHANCE? UM,
WELL WE'RE GONNA KILL THAT THEN.
NOT BECAUSE I'M NOT GONNA, I'M NOT GONNA SAY YEAH, LET'S PUT IT IN THE BOND AND THEN WE DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT.
SO I DON'T THINK IT'S ANYTHING DIFFERENT.
I JUST NEED TO WAIT UNTIL WE START DOING MORE ELABORATE.
DANNY BEING A DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENTS PHASE THREE.
SO, UM, AS YOU KNOW, THERE IS A CURRENT DAN BINO PROJECT.
UH, PHASE ONE IS, UH, STRONG DRAIN TRUNK LINE AND HEAVY CUT.
PHASE TWO IS THE CHANNEL IMPROVEMENT, UH, GOING FROM THERE TO BY CEDAR BODY.
UM, THE ENGINEER HAS HAD CHALLENGES MAKING THAT DESIGN WORK.
UH, BASICALLY THEY CAME TO US WITH A PLAN TO TAKE ALL THE HOUSES ALONG THE CHANNEL.
NO, WE'RE NOT HOUSES ALONG THE, UM, SO, UH, MIKE AND I HAVE A MEETING WITH THE ENGINEER NEXT WEEK TO DISCUSS WHERE, WHERE THAT PROJECT NEEDS TO BE.
SO THIS IS ALL THE SMALLER STRONG DRAINED LINES THAT FEED INTO THE TRUNK LINE ON HUNDRED.
UM, BUT THE FUTURE PHASE, UH, WANT DO THE TRUNK LINE FIRST, BUT IT'S UH, SO EXPENSIVE.
THIS IS ALSO AN EXPENSIVE PROJECT.
IT RANKS HIGH ON THE DRAINAGE KNEES.
IT WAS ONE OF THE HIGHEST, UH, PROJECTS THAT DANIEL BEING IN WEST BAYTOWN WITH A HIGH DRAINAGE PROJECTS.
UM, I PUT IT LOWER BECAUSE I REALLY FEEL LIKE WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT PHASE ONE AND TWO BEFORE YOU MOVE FORWARD WITH DESIGN OR ANYTHING.
AND YOU KNOW, I'M A BIG DRAINAGE GUY.
I HATE BUMPING IT DOWN, BUT FROM YOUR AREA, YOU ARE DOING SOMETHING IN THAT AREA.
IT'S JUST, WE'RE JUST NOT ANYWHERE NEAR READY FOR THAT.
I HATE TO SAY KILLED, BUT LET'S BUMP THAT.
THIS IS THE COUNTY MATCHING FUNDING.
THIS IS PART OF THE BOND BOND.
THEY ARE ON PHASE ONE AND TWO, TWO NOT PHASE THREE.
PHASE THREE IS NOT, THEY DON'T HAVE ANY AGREEMENT WITH HARRIS COUNTY.
I KNOW THEY JUST HAD THAT THEIR, THEIR THEIR FLOOD CONTROL BOND.
THAT JUST, I'M NOT GONNA TALK ABOUT THAT.
THE BOTTOM OF LIST BECAUSE WE WON'T BE READY.
MY PHONE WOULD NEVER PUT IN WEST BAKER FROM GUARD TO DICKER.
UM, THIS IS, YOU KNOW, PROBABLY A HIGH LONG TERM PROJECT.
UM, IT'S SOMEWHAT BASED ON CONDITIONS BUT MORE BASED ON THE SAFETY OF THE SITE DISTANCE COMING OUT THE SIDE STREETS AND ON NEWS CREEK AND ONE, UH, THERE'S TWO, THERE'S THREE TOGETHER.
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YEAH, BECAUSE YOU GET, YOU GET A LOT OF BACKUP AT HUDA.YOU RIGHT THERE AT HUDA, YOU GET A LOT OF BACKUP ONE'S.
NOT EVEN, IT'S THE ONES, UH, WEST OF OH YEAH.
NOW WE'RE TALKING THREE THREE TOGETHER.
THE RIGHT THERE COMING OUTTA LAND.
SO THE FENCES WAY IT LAID OUT THE FENCES ARE PEOPLE IN, SO THE PEOPLE COMING OUT OF THAT SIDE STREET CAN'T SEE AROUND THE FENCE AND ARE FREQUENT ACCIDENTS.
ONE THE OLD COUNTRY CLUB, UM, WE DID A DESIGN PRELIMINARY ENGINEERING ALREADY.
UM, I JUST RANKED IT LOWER BECAUSE I KNOW THIS IS NOT, THIS WOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH, UH, 'CAUSE IT'S SO BIG, IT WOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE, THE TIP FRONT AND IT'S, WE TOLD THEM ABOUT THE PROJECT, BUT IT'S, I DON'T THINK ANYWHERE WITHIN THE NEXT FIVE YEARS TIP CYCLE.
UM, AND THEY'RE MAKING CHANGES TO HOW THEIR STREETS OR AFTER.
SO WHAT ABOUT DESIGN? I MEAN, SO WE'VE DONE PRELIMINARY ENGINEERING.
UM, I THINK WE DID ENOUGH TO GET FUNDING SO THAT, SO THE DESIGN'S NOT, MONEY'S NOT, I DON'T FIVE YEARS.
WHAT, WHAT WE NEED TO PLAN FOR AS A CITY IS TO FUND ALL OF THEM.
70 MILLION, YOU KNOW, TRY TO GET IT LONG TERM INTO THE MAYBE MORE OF A 2030 BOND, NOT A 2029 BOND.
MAYBE 2028 BOND AT THE BOTTOM OF THE LIST.
AGAIN, EVERYTHING THAT'S ON THIS, I WANT TO KEEP ON THE LIST.
I JUST WANT TO REASONABLY MOVE THESE THINGS TO THE BOTTOM.
SO IT'S KIND OF LIKE THEY'RE AT THE BOTTOM BECAUSE THEY'RE NOWHERE REACHABLE AT THIS POINT IN TIME.
4 24 STAY ON THE LIST, BUT THEY'RE GONNA BE DOWN ON THE LIST.
PUSHBACK BAYWAY DRIVE, BAYWAY.
THAT WAS, UM, WE HAVE A WATERLINE REPLACEMENT HERE PLANNING FOR, UH, DOUBLE ALONG.
UM, THEN THERE'S A PROJECT, UH, EXXON IS, IS PLANNING THAT WILL IMPACT BUSINESS.
UM, SO I PUT THIS ON THERE ORIGINALLY, UM, AS WE WANT TO TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY OF HAVING THE WATERLINE PROJECT AND POTENTIAL IMPACTS FROM EXXON TO REDO BAYWAY.
AND THERE WAS A CORRIDOR PLAN DONE FOR BAYWAY AND IT SPELLS OUT WHAT, YOU KNOW, THE STREET SHOULD LOOK LIKE.
UH, SO THIS PROJECT WOULD NEED TO TAKE THAT CORRIDOR PLAN AND
UM, SO IT WOULD'VE TO BE FUNDED.
UM, THE CONDITION, THE STREET CONDITION ON BAYWAY IS NOT THAT BAD RIGHT NOW.
SO, UM, IT WAS RANKED LOWER BECAUSE I SAY THE CONDITION'S NOT REALLY, UH, DRIVING IN THE, UM, YOU KNOW, TRAFFIC QUOTING ER RENT FOR, FOR, YOU KNOW, THE, THE CROSS SECTION OF THE STREET GONNA CHANGE.
I I PUT IT ON THERE AS A PROJECT BECAUSE LIKE I SAY, WE DO HAVE A COURT ON PLAN AND JUST WANTED TO SEE IF THERE WAS APPETITE TO REDO THIS ACCORDING TO THE COURT THERE.
I KNOW THAT THAT'S, THERE'S A BIG POTENTIAL FOR A LOT MORE TRAFFIC GOING DOWN THAT ROAD IN ABOUT THREE YEARS.
AND IT'S AN ASPHALT ROAD AND YOU HAVE TWO SCHOOLS, FIRE STATION, OUR TRAINING FACILITY AND OUR NATURE CENTER ROAD.
IF WE'RE DOING A MAJOR UTILITY REWORK, WE BE DIGGING UP THE STREET.
UM, ONE IS NOT, UM, I DON'T THINK WE'LL IMPACT THE PAYMENT.
THAT'S SOMETHING ELSE YOU'VE MENTIONED IN THE PAST.
WE, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO DIG UP THE STREET TO REDO UTILITIES.
MIGHT AS WELL REDO THE STREET.
AND TOTAL SENSE BECAUSE YOU THAT I'M JUST WORRIED THE HEAVY TRAFFIC TRUCK TRAFFIC GOING DOWN THAT ROAD.
THAT ROAD UP AND THAT WOULD BE THE THREE TO FIVE YEAR PERIOD AFTER THAT.
WOULD EXXON 'EM DESTROY IT IN THE NEWS? EXXON WILL HELP REPAY FOR THAT.
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UM, THE REST OF 'EM ARE, ARE PARTS THAT WE FOR OUR AS, UM, CAN SWITCH 2024.UM, THEY'RE NOT GONNA MAKE, I, I'D LIKE TO SEE ANOTHER PRINTOUT WITH THE ADJUSTMENTS WE MAKE AND I'LL LET YOU HAVE THAT IF YOU WANT IT.
THE ADJUSTMENTS FOR DESIGN ACQUISITION VERSUS TOTAL POST AMOUNTS IN ALSO A LITTLE CLARITY THAT DESIGN ACQUISITION WOULD BE LIKE FOR THE FIRE STATION FOUR IS 1.5 WITH AN ESTIMATED CONSTRUCTION COST OF 13.
SO, SO THAT AGAIN, THE COMMITTEE CAN SAY, OKAY, WE'RE MOVING FORWARD, THIS IS OUR PROPOSAL BEFORE THIS.
'CAUSE WE PROBABLY WOULDN'T BE READY FOR CONSTRUCTION ANYWAY.
BUT IF WE, IF IT'S SHOVEL READY THEN IT, 'CAUSE WE'LL PROBABLY GO OUT AGAIN.
IT WON'T BE A FULL FIVE YEARS.
IT'D IT THAT WAY WE START GETTING AHEAD OF THIS CURVE.
UH, BUT THAT WAY WE CAN GET SOME THINGS ON THE GROUND, DO SOME STUFF BECAUSE THERE'S JUST NOT A LOT OF CITIZEN CONFIDENCE IN US IN GENERAL.
IT'S THE YOU'RE GONNA RAISE MY TAXES POTENTIAL.
WE, WE MIGHT HAVE TO, BUT WE'RE GONNA WORK REAL HARD NOT TO.
AND THAT'S WHY IF WE GET A LOT OF THIS CURVE DOWN AND, AND THEN WHEN WE GET DESIGN AND ALL THAT STUFF FROM STATION FOUR, TOUT THE FACT THAT WE'RE READY, WE'RE SHOVEL READY.
SO THE NEXT TIME WE GO, INSTEAD OF PUTTING IT ON YOUR SHELF AND NOT TELLING YOU ABOUT IT, WE NEED DRAGGING THE FACT THAT WE DID WHAT YOU SAID WE'RE GONNA DO.
ONE THING WE SKIPPED OVER WAS THE SIDEWALK AND PEARY AND ADA A THAT THOSE ARE KIND OF, THAT'S REQUIRED OF US.
UM, SO WE DO, UM, HAVE TO SHOW PROGRESS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO COMPLY WITH IT.
WE HAVE, WE DID AN ASSESSMENT OF ALL THE NEEDS AND UH, THE NEXT STEP IS TO START TO IMPLEMENT THOSE IN CONSTRUCTION PROJECT.
AND THE LEGAL REQUIREMENT IS THAT WE SHOW PROPERTY.
UM, SO THE INTENT OF THIS WAS TO PUT UH, I THINK 500,000 PER YEAR JUST PLACEHOLDER TO HAVE SOME PROGRESS ON PI GET, I GET CALLS EVERY NOW AND THEN.
AND THEY, SOME, SOME PEOPLE LIKE THE LITTLE HERB THINGS TELL SOME PEOPLE DON'T BUT IT'S KIND LIKE THEY'RE REQUIRED.
I'LL, I'LL TAKE YOUR COMMENTS.
THE ONES THAT HATE ARE THE ONES WITH THE, THAT DID SOME THAT HAD THE, THE LITTLE BUMPS I THINK SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
THEY, THEY LIKED HAVING THE RAMP BUT IT WAS ROUGH IN THIS TIME REQUIREMENT.
SOME DAYS WE JUST GOTTA DO WHAT WE GOTTA DO.
YOU NEED TO CALL YOUR CONGRESSMAN ON THAT ONE.
ALRIGHT, WE'VE COVERED QUITE A BIT SO YEAH, WE, WE'D LIKE TO TAKE YOUR INPUT AND UM, I KNOW I THINK WE WERE TALKING AS I WAS WATCHING YOU RIGHT.
WHICH, WHICH WOULD MAKE, MAKE THE MODIFICATION, SEND IT BACK FOR PARENTS.
AND THEN, UM, NEXT THING I WANT TO DO IS, UH, I THINK YOU KIND OF ANSWERED THE QUESTION HERE WAS TALK ABOUT THE ROLE OF THE, UM,
SO YOU UH, KIND OF TOUCHED ON THIS.
UM, WE SEE THE ROLE AS WELL, THIS WAS THE DRAFT.
UM, YOU KNOW, THE BIDEN COMMITTEE IS THERE TO REPRESENT THE COMMUNITY AND GIVE YOU INPUT ON, YOU KNOW, WHAT THE COMMUNITY BELIEVES AS FAR AS, UH, PROJECTS AND, YOU KNOW, UH, THE CAPACITY FOR A PART TAKING ON NEW DEBT.
AND THEN, UM, DOING PUBLIC OUTREACH SO THEY CAN FUNCTION AS PEOPLE WHO CAN COMMUNICATE WITH THE, YOU KNOW, THEIR NETWORK AS TO WHAT THE PRIORITIES ARE AND THE NEED FOR THE PROJECTS.
UM, AND THEN CAN USE THE BOND COMMITTEE TO HELP YOU MAKE GREAT, YOU KNOW, GIVE FEEDBACK ON WHAT THE PRIORITIES ARE.
UM, THE DELIVERABLE I, I THINK YOU TOUCHED ON WAS THAT YOU WANTED TO SEE, UH, COMMITTEES RANKING A AND GIVE THEM DIRECTION ON WHATEVER, UH, THEY CAN SEE ANY PROJECT
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WITHIN THAT FUNDING FUND.SO, UM, WE WANT, WE WOULD LIKE TO BRING THIS AND CLEAN THIS UP AND BRING IT TO COUNCIL SO COUNCIL CAN APPROVE WHAT IS THE, YOU KNOW, THE CHARTER FOR THE BOND COMMITTEE.
WHAT, WHAT DO YOU WANT THEM TO LEAVE TO MAKE SURE THEY MEET YOUR EXPECTATIONS? COVERS IT.
FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, FROM THE CIP IS I WANT YOU TO MAKE BEGIN GIVE THEM YOU'RE FULL TO MAKE THE MODIFICATIONS TO WHAT WE AS OUR RECOMMENDATIONS.
AND THEN THEY'LL HAVE A RECOMMENDATION FROM THE FINANCE COMMITTEE THAT THIS IS WHERE THE, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S IT GONNA BE? 50, 200 MILLION.
YOU KNOW, IF IT'S ALL, IF, IF FINANCE COMMITTEE COMES BACK AND SAYS WE CAN DO IT ALL, LET'S DO IT ALL, BUT I DON'T THINK THAT'S WHERE WE'RE GONNA GO.
UH, SO THEN, THEN THEY CAN TAKE THAT NUMBER, WHATEVER IT IS, AND, AND TAKE THE STAFF LIST OUR LIST AND THEN MODIFY IT AGAIN.
AND THEN THAT'LL COME BACK TO ALL OF US AS COUNCIL TO, TO AGAIN DISCUSS AS A WHOLE AND MAKE FINAL QUESTION ON THAT.
I I WISH THE ENVIRONMENT WAS BETTER THAT WE COULD SAY THAT IT'S NOT.
SO THAT WAS, UH, ALL WE HAD PREPARED DIRECTION QUESTIONS FOR US.
I ALSO SEND YOU OUT THE PROJECT SHEETS SO YOU UM, HAVE BACKGROUND ON ALL
UM, WE GET BACK TOGETHER AND FORMALLY VOTE ON THE RECOMMENDATION OR ARE YOU PREPARED TO DO THAT NOW WITH NO, WE'RE GOOD.
I THINK YOU HAVE A CON WE'RE NOT GONNA FORMALLY VOTE IN THIS COMMITTEE, BUT WE'LL GIVE YOU A CONSENSUS THAT, THAT UH, THAT'S THAT'S THE POWER WE WANT.
WELL JUST OUTTA CURIOSITY, CHALLENGING YOU VOTE, WHY WOULDN'T YOU FORMALLY VOTE? JUST OUTTA CURIOSITY.
NORMALLY VOTE IS, IS A COMMITTEE GIVE YOU A CONSENSUS.
YEAH, AS LONG AS Y'ALL FEEL COMFORTABLE THAT Y'ALL HAVE GIVEN STAFF THE COULD THE CONSENSUS AND WE UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
SEE HOW IT'S RE-LISTED AND BROKEN OUT AND SEE HOW THE, THE 'CAUSE BY MODIFYING THOSE NUMBERS THINGS IS GONNA SHIFT UP THE SCALE.
BUT YOU DO WANT TO SEE THE DIS SAY FIRE STATION FOUR.
BREAK UP DESIGN, STICK IT OR MAYBE KEEP IT WHERE IT IS ON THE LIST.
NOTE THAT CONSTRUCTION IS GONNA BE HERE.
BUT MAYBE PUT THE CONSTRUCTION ACTUALLY FURTHER DOWN THE LIST AS WELL.
BUT, BUT IT'LL NO HERE ON THERE AT ALL.
HE SAID HE WOULDN'T BE READY WOULDN'T BE, HE WOULDN'T BE READY IN THE FIVE YEAR PERIOD.
SO IT WOULD BE ON THE NEXT BOND.
BUT THIS IS, THIS IS ALL THE PROJECT EIGHT DESIGN WHERE YOU'RE GOING DESIGN AND ACQUISITION IS 1.5, RIGHT.
CONSTRUCTION IS GONNA BE 13 FOR A FUTURE BOND.
YEAH, BUT YOU SAY LIKE JUST LIKE HERE, JUST LIKE WE HAVE HERE.
SO YOU'RE GONNA HAVE DESIGN FOR, FOR GARTH ROAD IMPROVEMENT HERE.
WHICH MIGHT MOVE UP A LITTLE BIT, BUT YOU'RE STILL GONNA HAVE GARTH ROAD HERE BECAUSE THIS IS A 10 YEAR LOOK AHEAD, NOT A FIVE YEAR LOOK AHEAD.
WE'RE NOT COVERING EVERYTHING IN FIVE YEARS.
THIS IS KIND OF A 10 YEAR LOOK AHEAD OF WHAT WE JUST, THIS IS GONNA BE A RUNNING LIST, BUT THE NUMBERS ON THE RIGHT WILL SHIFT BECAUSE WE'RE WE'RE REDUCED, RIGHT? YES.
10 OR 15, 20,000 OR 20 MILLION.
KEEP 'EM BASICALLY THE SAME RANGE.
YEAH, YOU'RE GONNA, EXCEPT FOR THE ONES THAT WE MOVED DOWN THAT YOU SAID WON'T BE ANYWHERE NEAR.
WELL YOU'RE GONNA ADD FOUR NUMBERS.
THIS IS, THIS LIST WILL JUMP TO 33.
RIGHT, BECAUSE YOU'RE ADDING DESIGN IN CONSTRUCTION.
SO YOU'LL HAVE 33 ON THE LIST.
I LIKE WEST DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENTS DOWN THE BOTTOM.
WELL THEY'RE STILL IN THE LIST BUT NUMBER 21 FACILITIES NEW LIBRARY.
IT NOW WILL BE 29 AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED.
UNTIL WE MADE A DECISION RIGHT.
I, I THINK, I THINK THE BEST THING HERE IS BECAUSE YOU KEPT DOING THAT AND MOVING IT DOWN.
SO IS THIS NOW 30? NO, IT'S NOT 30.
'CAUSE YOU NOW THIS IS NOW LIKE 33.
IF THIS ONE MOVED, THESE THREE MOVE DOWN, THESE NUMBERS MOVE UP.
WE HAVE, I'LL SEND YOU A DRAFT.
WE'LL SEND YOU A DRAFT, SEND IT TO ME IN EXCEL AND I'LL MODIFY IT AND SEND IT BACK TO YOU.
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I THINK WE ALL, WE NEED THIS.I THINK, I THINK THE, THE BOND COMMITTEE, I THINK THE BOND NEEDS TO BE MADE.
WE, WE'LL BE INVOLVED IN THAT.
I'M SURE WE'LL BE BOND COMMITTEES.
WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THE RECOMMENDATIONS FROM BOTH COMMITTEES AND POTENTIALLY IF, UM, IF WE'RE GONNA BRING THE CHARGE OR THE CHARTER TO COUNCIL THAT ALL OF THAT IS DONE PRIOR TO.
UM, BUT WE CAN, WE CAN DISCUSS IT.
WE TIMING ISSUES WITH THAT OTHER C BEGIN CHARGE, CHARGE FROM US.
IS THAT LUKE'S FINE? HIS MEETING WE'RE WHENEVER IT IS.
WE CAN MEET AT FOUR O'CLOCK THE DAY OF 8 2 3.
WELL, I MEAN WE SHOULD TAKE THE CHARTER TO COUNCIL ONE 27TH.
WELL WE CAN ALSO, UH, POTENTIALLY HAVE THE TWO RECOMMENDATIONS AS WELL IF IT WORKS OUT BUT WORKS WE'LL FIGURE IT OUT.
WE MET ALL THE LISTED ITEMS SO WE RETURN.