Oct 29, 2024 Baytown Police Advisory Committee

OH, NO.

ALRIGHT.

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WELL, ACTUALLY, SOMETHING, UH, I SPOKE WITH THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION FOR COUNTRY CLUB ESTATES AND WANTED THEM TO, UH, PARTICIPATE WITH, UH, OUR MEETINGS.

UH, THE ONLY, THE ONLY CONCERNS THAT THEY HAD WAS PARTIAL FENCE THAT HAD BEEN DOWN AND, UM, BEING TOLD THAT THEY HAD INDIVIDUALS GOING IN AND OUT, UH, FROM, UH, I THINK IT'S EMMETT HUDDLE, UH, AREA.

AND SO, BUT NO ONE SHOWED UP TO GIVE ANY INPUT.

THAT'S ACTUALLY GOOD.

UH, I MEAN, THOSE ARE SOME GROUPS.

SO I LIVE IN LAKEWOOD.

WE HAVE A NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, CIVIC ASSOCIATION.

I SHOULD REACH OUT TO THEM AS WELL.

SO, I MEAN, IT'S STILL A GOOD IDEA, RIGHT? YEAH.

AND SO WITH THAT, THAT ASSOCIATION AS WELL CALLED IN, UH, TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

UM, AND THAT WAS LAST WEEKEND.

UH, AND IT WAS PARKING ON THE STREETS.

IT'S A CUL-DE-SAC.

AND, UM, UH, THEY HAD ABOUT FIVE VEHICLES BLOCKING ONE, UH, RESIDENCE, UH, DRIVEWAY.

SO SHE ENDED UP CALLING AND BEING PART OF THAT, UH, HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION ON THE BOARD, I WAS ABLE TO DRIVE DOWN, TALK TO THE INDIVIDUALS.

THEY SAID POLICE DEPARTMENT HAD ALREADY ARRIVED, TALKED TO THEM.

BUT THE WAY THAT THEY WERE POSITIONED IS NOTHING THAT PD, UH, CAN DO WITH JUST, THEY WERE PARKED LEGALLY.

YEAH.

IN A SENSE, YES.

BUT FOR THE ASSOCIATION, IT'S A, IT'S A, IT'S A HASSLE.

SURE.

BUT YES, LEGALLY, I MEAN, THEY WERE FINE.

UM, BUT IT'S JUST THAT COMMUNICATION AND WE WANT TO ENCOURAGE THE NEIGHBORS TO CONTINUE TO HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS.

AND IF WE CAN WORK IT OUT OURSELVES BEFORE HAVING TO CALL PD ON MINOR INCIDENTS, THEN THAT BUILDS THAT COMMUNITY RELATIONSHIP.

AND SO WE DID THAT AS WELL.

WELL, SOUNDS LIKE YOU DID THE RIGHT THING.

UH, REPORTS

[a. Receive a report and discuss the status of police outreach, community policing, officer training and policies and procedures.]

WE WILL RECEIVE A REPORT AND DISCUSS THE STATUS OF POLICE OUTREACH, COMMUNITY POLICING OFFICER TRAINING, AND POLICIES AND PROCEDURES.

I THINK THAT'S YOU, CHIEF STRINGER.

YES, SIR.

THERE IT IS.

RIGHT THERE.

UM, MICROPHONE WAS RESPONDING SLOWLY.

, I KNOW THIS IS PROBABLY SOUNDING LIKE A BROKEN RECORD, BUT WE'RE STILL CONSISTENT AT 95% STAFFING.

UH, THAT'S ACTUALLY IMPRESSIVE.

YEAH.

LIKE I SAID BEFORE, IT'S A PROBLEM MOST AGENCIES IN THE US WOULD LOVE TO HAVE.

RIGHT.

I WAS GONNA SAY, HOW MANY AGENCIES, POLICE AGENCIES CAN SAY THEY'RE 95% STAFFED AND BE A VERY SMALL NUMBER.

I KNOW WE CAN DO BETTER .

YEAH.

UM, UH, AND WE'RE GOING TO, UM, WE DID SWEAR IN THREE NEW POLICE OFFICERS A DAY THAT WERE LATERAL HIRES.

THEY WENT THROUGH OUR LATERAL PEACE OFFICER COURSE.

AND, UH, THEY, THEY ALL HAVE A VARIETY OF EXPERIENCE.

ONE OF 'EM IS FROM NEW ORLEANS, UH, DID, UH, FIVE YEARS THERE A COUPLE OF YEARS WITH, UH, THE, THE, THE, THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT AND THE PARISH AS WELL.

AND, UH, HAS REALLY GOOD STRAIGHT LEVEL EXPERIENCE.

WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO WORKING WITH HIM.

I WOULD IMAGINE TWO OTHERS, UH, FROM TEXAS LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES THAT HAVE A WIDE RANGE OF EXPERIENCE AS WELL FROM SUPERVISION TO, UM, UH, INVESTIGATIONS AND, UH, UH, FIELD TRAINING.

SO WE CAN'T WAIT TO GET THEM OUT OF OUR FIELD TRAINING PROGRAM AND GET THEM THROUGH THE PROBATIONARY PERIOD SO THAT THEY CAN MAYBE START CONTRIBUTING SOME OTHER SPECIALIZATIONS AS WELL.

WE'VE ACTUALLY HAD PRETTY GOOD SUCCESS WITH OUR, OUR LATERAL PROGRAM BECAUSE WE DO GET THAT KNOWLEDGE AND WE GET THAT EXPERIENCE, AND IT'S INCUMBENT UPON US TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY UNDERSTAND WHAT'S EXPECTED OF 'EM AS BAYTOWN POLICE OFFICERS.

AND ONCE THEY GET TO THAT POINT WHERE THEY UNDERSTAND THE CULTURE THAT, THAT WE'RE TRYING TO BUILD, UH, THE OUTREACH THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR WITH OUR CITIZENS, BUT ALSO THE, THE, THE CRIME FIGHTING ASPECT OF IT TOO, TO BE ABLE TO BLEND ALL THAT STUFF TOGETHER.

ONCE THEY UNDERSTAND WHERE WE'RE GOING WITH THAT AND THE DIRECTION THAT THE DEPARTMENT'S GOING AND WHAT OUR MISSION IS, THEN WE CAN START LOOKING AT MAYBE UTILIZING THEM IN MORE SPECIALIZED FUNCTIONS.

BUT THE FIRST THING IS, IS TO, IS TO MAKE 'EM BAYTOWN POLICE OFFICERS.

UM, SO WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT WITH THEM.

AND I DON'T HAVE THIS IN THE, UH, IN THE REPORT, BUT AS A SIDEBAR WITH IT, UH, WE, ONE OF THE, UH, ONE OF THE GOALS THAT I SET WHEN I FIRST ARRIVED WAS FOR US TO BEGIN TRAINING OUR OWN POLICE OFFICERS IN OUR OWN BASIC ACADEMY.

I SET A GOAL FOR US TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT WITHIN THREE YEARS.

AND, UH, WE WILL BE JUST A FEW MONTHS OUTSIDE OF THAT GOAL, BUT BEGINNING IN MARCH, UH, THE BAYTOWN POLICE DEPARTMENT WILL HAVE ITS OWN BASIC PEACE OFFICER COURSE AGAIN, WHICH IT HAS NOT HAD FOR THE LAST, I WANT TO SAY 20 YEARS.

BUT THAT MAY BE GIVE OR TAKE A FEW YEARS CLOSER TO 25.

OKAY.

CLOSER TO 25 YEARS .

AND, YOU KNOW, WHY IS THAT IMPORTANT? WELL, THAT'S IMPORTANT BECAUSE WE CAN MONITOR THE QUALITY OF TRAINING THAT THEY'RE GETTING.

WE KNOW WHAT KIND OF TRAINING THEY'RE GETTING.

WE KNOW THAT PART OF A POLICE OFFICER'S, UH, EXPERIENCE IN AN ACADEMY

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UH, THE ACADEMIC ACADEMIES ARE GREAT FOR LEARNING THE LAW, AND WE HAVE GOT TO HAVE THAT.

WE WILL CONTINUE THAT.

BUT WE ARE ALSO FINDING THAT, UH, AND THIS IS ACROSS THE US WITH THE, UH, WITH THE COLLEGE-BASED, UH, ACADEMIES, IS THEY ARE NOT EXPOSED TO CONTROLLED STRESS LIKE THEY ARE IN SOME OF THE OTHER ACADEMIES.

AND WHEN THEY GET OUT ON THE STREET, THEY'RE NOT PREPARED FOR THAT.

AND THAT'S THE WRONG TIME TO START TO TRY TO TEACH SOMEBODY HOW TO DEAL WITH THAT KIND OF STUFF.

UM, SO WE WILL BE TRAINING THEM ACCORDING TO THE BAYTOWN CULTURE BASED AND COMMUNITY OUTREACH, PROCEDURAL JUSTICE, COMMUNITY POLICING, UH, LEADERSHIP.

AND, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE, ONE OF THE STATEMENTS IN OUR VISION STATEMENT IS TO PARTNER WITH OUR CITIZENS FOR THE EQUITABLE ADMINISTRATION OF JUSTICE.

THOSE ARE ALL THINGS THAT WE CAN CONTROL THAT YOU MAY NOT GET WITH A, WITH AN ACADEMY THAT, THAT INSTRUCTS OFFICERS FROM 30 OR 40 DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS OR PEOPLE WHO ARE JUST PUTTING THEMSELVES THROUGH THE ACADEMY.

WE CAN BEGIN TRAINING THEM INTO OUR CULTURE FROM DAY ONE.

SO, YOU KNOW, MY MOTTO ON THAT IS THE BAYTOWN WAY ALL THE WAY.

UM, AND, UH, WHEN WE DO START TRAINING OUTSIDE AGENCIES, I CAN'T LIE, WE'LL START RECRUITING FROM THEM TOO.

YEAH.

ALL FAIR AND LOVE WAR AND RECRUITMENT, SO, .

BUT I'M EXCITED ABOUT IT.

I REALLY AM, BECAUSE WE'LL BE ABLE TO SAY, THIS IS THE BAYTOWN POLICE OFFICER, AND WE KNOW WE HUNDRED PERCENT FOR CERTAIN HOW THEY'RE BEING TRAINED.

SO, UM, FOR A COLLABORATION AND OUTREACH THIS WEEK, UH, MY EXECUTIVE STAFF AND I HOSTED THE NEW POLICE CHIEF FROM THE, UH, GOOSE CREEK INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT POLICE DEPARTMENT, STUART RUSSELL.

UH, HE ATTENDED OUR EXECUTIVE STAFF MEETING.

WE HAD A REALLY GOOD CONVERSATION WITH HIM, DISCUSSION WITH HIM ABOUT HOW WE CAN CONTINUE TO WORK TOGETHER AND ACTUALLY BUILD STRONGER RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN US AND, AND THEIR POLICE DEPARTMENT.

UH, RIGHT NOW THEY'RE, THEY'RE REALLY UNDERSTAFFED.

UH, THEY HAVE ABOUT 12 OFFICERS OUT OF 32, SO HE'S REBUILDING THE DEPARTMENT.

UM, AND, AND THERE ARE SOME NEEDS THAT, UH, THAT HE HAS THAT WE'RE GONNA DO OUR BEST TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ASSIST HIM WITH.

HE CALLED TWO WEEKS AGO AND SAID, LISTEN, I'VE GOT THESE TWO DIFFERENT CALLS GOING ON.

I NEED SOME HELP.

I'M GONNA SEE IF I CAN GET YOUR DISPATCH TO SEND TO SOMEONE OUT.

AND I SAID, HEY, MAN, GO AHEAD.

UH, SO, YOU KNOW, REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THAT.

I THINK HE'S GOT A VERY GOOD PROFESSIONAL OUTLOOK ON THE DEPARTMENT, AND HE'S GONNA TAKE IT IN A, IN A, IN A, IN A POSITIVE DIRECTION.

HE HAD BEEN THE, UH, UH, POLICE CHIEF AT PASADENA SCHOOLS FOR 13 YEARS.

SO HE COMES WITH EXECUTIVE EXPERIENCE, AND I THINK HE WILL, I THINK IT'S JUST WHAT THE, THE, THE SCHOOL SYSTEM NEEDS.

WE LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH 'EM.

UH, WE HAD HELD OUR DRUG TAPE BACK THIS LAST SATURDAY.

PARTICIPATION FROM THE COMMUNITY, AS ALWAYS WAS, WAS EXCEPTIONAL.

UH, SARGE, DID YOU GET A A WAIT ON THAT YET? HAVE YOU HEARD? UH, I WAS STILL WAITING ON A, ON A WAIT FOR THE NARCOTICS.

WE TOOK DRUGS.

I, I GAVE IT TO ER THIS MORNING.

I WANT TO SAY BETWEEN 80 AND A HUNDRED POUNDS.

OKAY.

IT'S A GOOD RUN.

NOT AS BIG AS SOME OF OUR OTHERS, BUT EARLIER IN THE YEAR.

YEAH, SURE.

BUT THAT'S STILL, YEAH, WHEN WE HAVE TWO A YEAR, IT GETS, IT GETS, UH, IT DIVIDES IT UP.

IT'S NOT NEAR AS GOOD.

YEAH.

BUT THAT'S 80 TO A HUNDRED POUNDS OF PRESCRIPTION DRUGS THAT AREN'T GOING INTO THE TRASH.

UH, KIDS AREN'T GETTING THEIR HANDS ON 'EM, IT'S NOT GOING INTO THE AQUIFER.

IT'S BEING DESTROYED APPROPRIATELY.

SO IT'S GOOD COMMUNITY OUTREACH OR GOOD COMMUNITY PARTICIPATION IN THAT.

UM, UH, ACROSS THREE EVENTS OVER THE LAST MONTH, WE'VE GIVEN OUT THREE FREE, UH, CHILD SAFETY SEATS TO FAMILIES, UH, WHO NEEDED IT.

THAT ALSO INCLUDES INSTRUCTION ON HOW TO USE IT, HOW TO INSTALL IT, AND, UH, WE ACTUALLY INSTALL IT FOR THEM AS WELL.

SO I SAID 23 .

WE HAVE A SHIPMENT OF 50 IN TODAY.

OKAY.

YEAH.

AND, AND JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, IT'S 23 FREE SEATS.

SO , UM, UH, WE'VE REALLY BEEN WORKING ON HOMELESS OUTREACH INITIATIVES TOO, GUYS.

UM, AND IT'S, UH, IT'S, IT IS A SIDE PROJECT FOR SOME OF OUR OFFICERS.

ONE OF 'EM IS, ONE OF THE OFFICERS IS TOMMY KING, WHICH WORKS FOR, UH, SARGE HERE.

AND HE PULLS A LOT OF DOUBLE DUTY BETWEEN BEING A DARE OFFICER, UH, WORKING WITH, UM, SOME OF OUR PROPERTIES THAT HAVE HIGH CRIME AREAS AND, UH, AND COMMUNITY OUT, OR, UH, HOMELESS OUTREACH.

BUT HE'S DONE A FANTASTIC JOB OF TRYING TO HELP US, FIRST AND FOREMOST, UH, UH, GET CITIZENS TO RESOURCES THAT CAN TAKE CARE OF THE PROBLEM.

UH, WE'D PREFER NOT TO HAVE TO TAKE ANY ENFORCEMENT ACTION.

IF WE CAN SOLVE THE PROBLEM, THEN WE DON'T HAVE TO TAKE ENFORCEMENT ACTION.

UH, IF THEY REFUSE TO COOPERATE, AND THEN THEY DON'T LEAVE US ANY CHOICE.

UM, BUT, UH, WE WERE ABLE TO CLEAN UP, UH,

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ONE IN THE 3,700 BLOCK OF WEST BAKER ROAD, AND ANOTHER IN THE 3,700 BLOCK OF HIGHWAY 46, HIGHWAY 1 46.

SO HE'S, HE'S DOING A GOOD JOB OF IDENTIFYING THOSE AREAS.

WAS THERE ANOTHER ONE? I DID THREE LAST WEEK.

OH, WELL, I DIDN'T SEE THAT.

MAN.

, THE ONE ON HAM, 1 46, UHHUH THAT EVERYBODY HAD BEEN CALLING ABOUT.

THE ONE BEHIND, UH, BURGER KING.

YEAH.

AND THEN THE ONE NEXT TO THE POLICE STATION.

THAT'S RIGHT.

YEAH.

WE, WE CLEANED THAT UP AS A FAVOR TO HARRIS COUNTY FLOOD CONTROL.

YEP.

IT'S THEIR PROPERTY.

BUT WE DID.

YEAH.

WELL, I, AND I THINK TWO WEEKS AGO, WE ACT, THREE WEEKS AGO, WE ACTUALLY MADE CONTACT WITH THE PEOPLE WHO WERE TRYING TO SET THE CAMP UP AND TOLD THEM THAT THEY WERE TRESPASSING, AND WE GAVE THEM THE OPPORTUNITY TO LEAVE.

AND I GUESS, UH, THE AUTHORITY OVER THAT PROPERTY DIDN'T COME CLEAN IT UP, SO WE DID IT FOR HIM.

IS THAT WHAT HAPPENED? I, I JUST ASKED HIM TO OPEN THE GATE FOR US.

OKAY.

'CAUSE THERE WAS A LOCKED GATE.

GOTCHA.

IF YOU OPEN THE GATE, WE'LL GO IN AND CLEAN IT.

ROGER THAT.

GOOD.

THEY FINALLY CAME AND OPENED IT FOR US.

YEP.

AND THAT'S THE KIND OF INITIATIVE THAT WE WANT IN THE DEPARTMENT.

UM, GRANTED THIS WAS A SERGEANT DOING THAT, BUT THAT'S THE KIND OF STUFF WE WANT OUR POLICE OFFICERS DOING TOO.

AND THEY'RE FULLY EMPOWERED TO BE ABLE TO REACH OUT TO THE RIGHT PEOPLE TO SAY, HEY, THIS IS WHAT WE NEED.

THIS IS ON MISSION.

AND THAT'S THE CULTURE THAT WE'RE TRYING TO CREATE ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE LINE LEVEL TO THE ROOKIE OFFICER, IS TO TAKE THAT KIND OF OWNERSHIP.

UM, NATIONAL NIGHT OUT AT TOWN SQUARE WAS, IT WAS A SUCCESS.

UH, HAD VERY GOOD TURNOUT.

UH, PD HAD A LOT OF BOOTHS SET UP, UH, AND WE GAVE OUT A LOT OF INFORMATION.

IT WAS VERY, UH, PROMISING, BUT IT WAS ALSO REALLY GOOD TO SEE THE NEIGHBORHOODS FROM ACROSS THE, UH, ACROSS THE CITY COMING TOGETHER AND INTERACTING WITH EACH OTHER TOO.

I MEAN, IT WAS REALLY, REALLY COOL.

UM, CAMPUS CRIME STOPPERS, UH, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE REALLY TRYING TO DO IS REACH OUT MORE TO OUR MIDDLE SCHOOL AND HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS AND CONTINUE THE RELATIONSHIP THAT OUR DARE OFFICERS DEVELOP WITH 'EM INSTEAD OF INVESTING IN 'EM IN THE FIFTH GRADE LEVEL, AND THEN KIND OF KICKING 'EM TO THE CURB AND THEN TRYING TO CATCH 'EM WHEN THEY COME BACK OUT AS, AS ADULTS, IS TO CONTINUE THOSE RELATIONSHIPS.

AND CRIME STOPPERS IS ONE OF THE WAYS THAT WE CAN DO IT ON CAMPUSES.

AND WE HAD, UH, 80 PARTICIPANTS, UH, ACROSS THREE MEETINGS JUST OVER THE LAST TWO WEEK PERIOD.

AND THAT MAY NOT SOUND LIKE A WHOLE LOT WHEN YOU CONSIDER THE CENSUS OF OUR HIGH SCHOOLS, BUT THOSE ARE 80 STUDENTS THAT ARE INTERACTING WITH OFFICERS, NOT JUST INTERACTING WITH OFFICERS, BUT THERE'S 80 STUDENTS INTERACTING WITH OFFICERS, TALKING ABOUT HOW THEY CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE WITH THINGS.

AND IT'D BE GREAT TO HAVE 80 PEOPLE SHOW UP HERE SAYING, HOW CAN WE COLLABORATE MM-HMM .

BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THAT IS.

IT'S A COLLABORATION.

IT'S NOT, I'M UPSET ABOUT THIS AND YOU'RE DOING THIS WRONG.

IT'S, HEY, MAN, OFFICER, WHAT IF WE DID THIS? OR I KNOW SOMEBODY WHO'S DOING SOMETHING THEY SHOULDN'T BE DOING.

HOW CAN WE MAKE THINGS BETTER TOGETHER? RIGHT.

UM, AND, UH, THEN FOR OUR TRAINING, UH, WE GAVE, WE HAD A TOTAL OF 2,150 TRAINING HOURS, UH, FROM SEPTEMBER 24TH TO PRESENT WITHIN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

THREE OF OUR OFFICERS HAVE ACHIEVED INTERMEDIATE PE PEACE OFFICER CERTIFICATIONS, AND ONE HAS ACHIEVED ADVANCED PEACE OFFICER CERTIFICATION.

AND AGAIN, WHY IS THIS IMPORTANT? THIS IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE THIS IS CONTINUING EDUCATION FOR THESE POLICE OFFICERS THAT GOES ABOVE AND BEYOND WHAT THE, THE STATE REQUIREMENTS ARE.

UM, THESE ARE MILESTONES IN THEIR CAREERS, AND, YOU KNOW, IT ESTABLISHES A GREATER LEVEL OF PROFICIENCY AND IN SOME CASES, EXPERTISE IN CERTAIN AREAS.

BUT IT'S A, A BETTER TRAINED, MORE WELL-INFORMED PEACE OFFICER THAT'S RESPONDING WHEN OUR CITIZENS NEED THEM.

AND THAT'S THE REASON WE ENCOURAGE THOSE CERTIFICATIONS SO MUCH, NOT JUST TO SAY WE HAVE 'EM.

UM, OUR ACADEMY PROVIDED 2,724 TRAINING HOURS DURING THE SAME TIME PERIOD, NOT ONLY FOR OUR OFFICERS, BUT ALSO FOR, UH, AREA AGENCIES FOR OUTSIDE CLASSES.

AND, UH, THAT WAS FOR A TOTAL OF 13 COURSES, AND WE HAD 120 STUDENTS PARTICIPATE, UH, IN THOSE COURSES.

DURING THAT TIME.

I ATTENDED THE, UH, PUBLIC SAFETY COUNCIL MEETINGS, UH, FOR COMMUNITY POLICING AT THE INTERNATIONAL ASSOCIATION CHIEFS OF POLICE CONFERENCE, UH, OVER THE, THE, THE WEEKEND AND INTO THE, UH, TUESDAY OF THIS, THIS LAST WEEK.

UM, AND, UH, I SIT ON, UH, THE COMMUNITY POLICING COMMITTEE.

AND SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE DISCUSSED WERE STRATEGIES FOR BEST PRACTICES IN COMMUNITY POLICING AND OUTREACH.

WE'VE ACTUALLY DEVELOPED A TOOLKIT THAT WILL GO OUT WORLDWIDE FOR AGENCIES TO BE ABLE TO USE FOR COMMUNITY POLICING.

UH, IT WAS SUPPOSED TO COME OUT THIS YEAR, BUT APPARENTLY THERE'S ANOTHER COMMITTEE ON COMMUNITY SAFETY THAT PUT, UH, A TOOLKIT TOGETHER THAT WAS VERY CLOSE TO WHAT WE WERE DOING.

SO, THE IACP STAFF IS REEVALUATING THAT AND SEEING HOW THEY CAN COMBINE THOSE TO, TO PUT TOGETHER AN EVEN BETTER PRODUCT FOR US.

UM, I'M ALSO ON A COMMITTEE TO, UH, UH,

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AND IT'S NOT SPONTANEOUS ATTACKS, IT GETS PEACE OFFICERS, BUT WHAT ARE THE FACTORS IN OUR COMMUNITIES THAT LEND THEMSELVES TO SPONTANEOUS ATTACKS? SAY PEOPLE WHO ARE OUT IN THE PARK JOGGING OR WALKING DOWN THE STREET, WHAT WE WOULD CONSIDER SOMETHING THAT MIGHT NOT PARTICULARLY BE PLANNED, BUT JUST OCCURS ON AT THE STREET LEVEL.

SO WE'RE TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THE ENVIRONMENTAL FACTORS BEHIND IT, THE PSYCHOLOGICAL AND SOCIOECONOMIC FACTORS THAT MAYBE WE CAN IMPACT ON THE FRONT END TO REDUCE THE LIKELIHOOD OF THAT HAPPENING.

SO WE'LL SEE WHAT HAPPENS WITH THAT.

BUT THAT'S PROBABLY GONNA BE ABOUT A YEAR LONG, UH, PROCESS TO, TO GET THROUGH ALL THAT.

BUT IT'S EXCITING.

UM, WHILE I WAS THERE, I LEARNED OF A PROGRAM FROM A COMMITTEE MEMBER, AND I, I REALLY WANTED YOU GUYS TO, TO HEAR THIS, TO SEE IF MAYBE WE COULD LOOK AT THIS IN THE FUTURE.

UH, I LEARNED OF A PROGRAM FROM A, A COMMITTEE MEMBER, AND IT'S CALLED GREG'S GROCERIES.

IT'S NAMED FOR A LADY NAMED CASSIE RAY'S, FALLEN POLICE OFFICER, HUSBAND.

UH, SHE HAS A, UH, UH, A NONPROFIT.

AND WHAT IT DOES IS IT PROVIDES GROCERIES FOR THOSE IN NEED.

THE IDEA IS IF THEY CAN REDUCE CRIMES SUCH AS SHOPLIFTING AND THEFTS, WHICH OCCUR WHEN FAMILIES ARE HUNGRY, BECAUSE A MAN OR A WOMAN WILL STEAL TO FEED THEIR FAMILIES IF THEY HAVE TO.

IF WE CAN REDUCE THAT FROM HAPPENING, THEN MAYBE WE CAN REDUCE OTHER CRIMES FROM OCCURRING AS WELL.

UH, BUT BASICALLY MEETING THESE NEEDS NOT ONLY STRENGTHENS BONDS WITH THE COMMUNITIES, WITH OUR CORPORATE PARTNERS, UM, BUT IT ALSO ALLOWS OUR, OUR CORPORATE PARTNERS TO PUT BACK INTO THE COMMUNITY AND, UH, TO IMPROVE THE COMMUNITY AND HELP US TO BUILD THE COMMUNITY UP INTO SOMETHING THAT, UH, IS NOT ONLY SAFER, BUT THE PERCEPTION OF, OF SAFETY HAS INCREASED AS WELL.

ALSO GIVES US AN OPPORTUNITY TO, TO SAY, PUT A, A BOX OF NON-PERISHABLE GROCERIES IN THE BACK OF OUR, OUR POLICE UNITS.

SO WHEN WE COME ACROSS SOMEBODY WHO'S IN NEED, WE CAN HAND THAT TO 'EM AND WE CAN HELP MEET THAT NEED.

BUT WE CAN ALSO PUT ADDITIONAL RESOURCES IN THERE THAT THEY CAN REACH OUT TO.

AND AGAIN, THIS IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PROBLEM SOLVING IN OUR COMMUNITY.

AND, AND, AND, AND, AND I WILL HARP ON THIS UNTIL THE DAY THAT I, I FINALLY LEAVE LAW ENFORCEMENT FOREVER.

AND IT'S, IF WE CAN LOOK AT THE FACTORS THAT LEND THE, LEND THEMSELVES TO CRIMINAL ACTIVITY, AND WE CAN HAVE AN IMPACT ON THOSE, THEN WE CAN REDUCE CRIMINAL ACTIVITY FROM OCCURRING IN THE FIRST PLACE.

I KNOW WE CAN'T ELIMINATE IT.

THAT'S, THAT'S NOT GONNA HAPPEN.

BUT IF WE COULD REDUCE IT, IF WE CAN REDUCE IT 5%, 10%, THERE'S PEOPLE WHO AREN'T BEING VICTIMIZED BECAUSE OF THAT.

UM, WHICH GETS INTO, UH, MY FINAL, MY FINAL POINT HERE.

UM, PUBLIC SAFETY AND CRIME IMPACT JANUARY THROUGH SEPTEMBER, UH, 2024 COMPARED TO THE SAME TIME PERIOD DURING 2023.

AND WE SEE SOME FLUCTUATIONS, UH, AS THE, THE MONTHS GO ON.

SOMETIMES IT'S UP, SOMETIMES IT'S DOWN.

UH, OUR CALLS FOR SERVICE ARE DOWN 6%, WHICH IS WHAT WE WANNA SEE.

THAT MEANS WE'RE BEING MORE PROACTIVE.

HOPEFULLY WE'RE STOPPING THINGS FROM HAPPENING.

WE'RE SOLVING THOSE PROBLEMS THAT I WAS JUST TALKING ABOUT.

PEOPLE AREN'T HAVING THE NEED TO CALL US AS OFTEN.

UH, OUR STOLEN VEHICLES ARE DOWN 26%.

UH, VIOLENT CRIME IS DOWN 14%.

THIS I AM REALLY HAPPY ABOUT BECAUSE WE SET A GOAL FOR 10%.

UM, I WANTED TO DO 20%, UH, FOR THE, FOR THE, FOR THE FIRST YEAR.

AND SOME OF THE COMMAND STAFF FELT LIKE THAT MIGHT BE A LITTLE AMBITIOUS, AND THEY WANTED SOMETHING THAT DIDN'T SEEM AS, AS DAWNING A TASK, SOMETHING A LITTLE MORE ACHIEVABLE.

UH, I TOLD 'EM I HAD MORE FAITH IN, IN 'EM THAN THAT, BUT WE WENT WITH 10%.

AND, AND IT LOOKS LIKE WE'RE TRENDING AT ABOUT 14% RIGHT NOW.

THAT COULD CHANGE DEPENDING ON, UH, YOU KNOW, WHAT OUR SHOPPING SEASON LOOKS LIKE.

BUT WE'RE GONNA DO OUR BEST TO MAKE SURE IT DOESN'T, UH, THAT IF IT DOES CHANGE THAT IT GOES TO 15 OR 16%.

RIGHT.

UM, OUR VEHICLE CRASHES ARE DOWN 27%, WHICH EXCEEDS OUR GOAL OF 20%.

UM, AT, UH, UH, ABOUT TWO OR THREE MONTHS AGO, WE WERE TRENDING AROUND 33%.

UM, SO THAT DEVIATION IS NOT INCREDIBLY ALARMING.

HOPEFULLY BY THE END OF THE YEAR, IT'S BACK UP INTO THE THIRTIES.

BUT, UH, WE'RE STILL EXCEEDING THAT.

UH, WE'RE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE STILL EXCEEDING THAT.

AND, AND, AND LET ME BACK UP ON THAT.

THAT'S OUR VEHICLE CRASHES.

OUR FATALITIES ARE TRENDING AT 33%.

UH, WE HAVE A 33% REDUCTION IN AUTO RELATED AND, AND DWI RELATED FATALITIES.

UM, OUR BURGLARIES ARE DOWN 40%, AND THE

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AND IF YOU RECALL, SOME OF THE REASONS I'VE DISCUSSED THAT BEING IMPORTANT IS BECAUSE EVERY TIME OUR OFFICERS RESPOND TO A SHOTS FIRED CALL, THEY'RE REQUIRED TO CHECK THE AREA TO SEE IF THEY CAN FIND, SHELL SPENT SHELL CASINGS ON THE GROUND.

IF THEY DO.

AND EVEN IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY SHOT A STOP SIGN, WE'RE STILL PICKING THOSE UP, AND WE'RE SUBMITTING THOSE TO THE BANS TASK FORCE.

AND WE'RE SEEING IF, IF THOSE WEAPONS THAT DISCHARGED THOSE FIREARMS HAD BEEN USED ELSEWHERE IN OTHER CRIMINAL ACTIVITY AND ALREADY BEEN RECORDED.

BUT THE FACT THAT WE'RE SUBMITTING FEWER SHELL CASINGS MEANS, AND YOU GO BACK TO THE 6% REDUCTION IN CALLS FOR SERVICE, IT INDICATES THAT WE'RE RESPONDING TO FEWER SHOTS FIRED CALLS.

SO WE'RE TRENDING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.

UH, LET'S HOPE IT CONTINUES TO, TO, TO TREND IN THAT DIRECTION.

AND IT WILL, YOU KNOW, BE IMPORTANT FOR US TO, UH, MAKE SURE THAT THE COMMUNITY'S CALLING AND COOPERATING WITH US AND LETTING US KNOW WHEN THEY HEAR THINGS, SEE THINGS, AND, UH, UH, AND WORK WITH US ON IT.

SO, , THANK YOU.

YES, SIR.

YEAH.

UH, NUMBER FIVE ON THE AGENDA IS, UH, BUSINESS ITEMS REVIEWING, UH, PREVIOUS GOALS AND FUTURE PLANNING.

UM, WE ALL HAVE THE QUICK ASSESSMENT THAT WAS DONE LAST YEAR.

I MEAN, THAT IT HAS SOME OF THE GOALS AND ACCOMPLISHMENTS IN IT.

UH, YEAH.

I THINK I JUST PRINTED OUT THE EXACT SAME THING.

UM, SOME OF THESE THINGS, YOU KNOW, JUST INCLUDE BASIC STATISTICS.

DO WE NEED TO READ THIS INTO THE RECORD OR CAN WE INCORPORATE IT BY NO, IT'S ATTACHED ON THE AGENDA.

OKAY.

IT'S ATTACHED ON THE AGENDA.

UH, HONESTLY, I, YOU KNOW, UH, PREVIOUS GOALS, YOU KNOW, OR AT LEAST MILESTONES TO ME IN THE, IN THE BPAC COMMITTEE ACHIEVEMENTS WERE THE, YOU KNOW, INTERACTIONS THAT HELPED WITH, UH, THE IPAD COLLABORATION, UH, THE STICKERS AND DECALS.

AND, AND I, I'M NOT TRYING TO TAKE CREDIT, THAT WAS ACTUALLY BEFORE I JOINED .

BUT, UH, UH, THE, UM, UH, THERE HAS BEEN A FOCUS ON SOCIAL MEDIA OUTREACH.

UM, YOU KNOW, UH, TRANSPARENT COMMUNICATIONS WITH THE POLICE CHIEF.

I MEAN, WE JUST WITNESSED THAT.

UH, SOME OTHER, UH, COLLABORATION ON COMMUNITY OUTREACH EVENTS, COFFEE WITH A COP, BIKE RIDES, UH, , UM, COMMUNITY MEETINGS AND BOOTHS ARE THINGS THAT WE'RE SOMETIMES INVOLVED IN.

PROBABLY, UH, I THINK PART OF THE FOCUS HERE IS WHERE SHOULD WE BE FOCUSING OUR EFFORTS NOW? UH, YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO, UH, PROBABLY, YOU KNOW, MAKE SOME PLAN SOME TIME, YOU KNOW, EITHER SEPARATELY OR IN ONE OF THE MEETINGS TO, TO HAMMER OUT SOME PHYSICAL GOALS THAT WE WANT TO ACHIEVE FOR 20, YOU KNOW, FIVE LET'S SAY.

AND THEN LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, HOW DO WE GET THERE? UH, WE DID THIS BEFORE AT THE LIBRARY WITH, UH, I CAN'T REMEMBER HER NAME, BUT JAMIE.

YEAH, JAMIE.

I MEAN, SHE WAS A GOOD MODERATOR FOR THAT KIND OF DISCUSSION.

UH, I THINK WE SHOULD DO THAT AGAIN.

YEAH.

OKAY.

SO, I MEAN, WE, WE CAN CERTAINLY SET THAT UP.

UM, YOU GUYS, I DON'T THINK EITHER OF Y'ALL WERE EVER INVOLVED IN THAT BEFORE, BUT, UH, IT'S, IT IS INTERESTING.

UM, IT'S A GOOD, IT'S A GOOD, UH, TIME WELL SPENT.

SO WHAT SHOULD WE, I MEAN, DO WE NEED TO DO TO SET THAT UP EITHER FOR NEXT MONTH OR DECEMBER OR JANUARY? IT DOESN'T MATTER.

I MEAN, SO TO SET THAT UP, UM, JUST WHENEVER YOU'RE ON YOUR NEXT MEETING ITEM, YOU CAN CHOOSE YOUR DATE, DEPENDING ON WHAT DATE WORKS BEST FOR Y'ALL, IF YOU WANNA GO WITH ONE OF THE DATES IN NOVEMBER.

UM, AND THEN ALONG WITH ANY RELATED TASKS AND PROCESSES IS WHERE YOU CAN SAY, YOU KNOW, TO GO OVER FUTURE GOALS OR REALLY DIVE INTO, UM, FUTURE PROJECTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

I WOULD SUGGEST, UH, GETTING JAMIE EUSTIS, UH, CONTACT INFORMATION, REACH OUT TO HER.

OKAY.

AND, AND SEE WHAT HER AVAILABILITY LOOKS LIKE.

'CAUSE I CAN TELL YOU SHE'S AN EXCELLENT FACILITATOR TO DO THAT STUFF, BUT I KNOW THAT SHE'S INCREDIBLY BUSY TOO.

OKAY.

SO, UM, BEFORE JUST SAYING THAT WE'RE GONNA DO THIS AND THEN CALL HER AND GET HER IN , YOU, YOU MIGHT WANNA CHECK AND SEE WHAT HER SCHEDULE LOOKS LIKE.

OKAY.

UM, BECAUSE YOU DEFINITELY DON'T WANNA MISS HER.

SHE IS VERY GOOD AT IT.

YEAH.

AND I WAS THINKING NOVEMBER WOULDN'T BE PROBABLY THE BEST SINCE THAT'S THE, UH, LAST MEETING THAT, UH, DR. MORENO WILL BE HERE PROBABLY REALISTICALLY JANUARY.

YEAH.

AFTER THE, AFTER THE FIRST.

WE'LL MAKE HER COME IN ON CHRISTMAS AND DO IT.

, .

SORRY, DON'T PUT THAT ON THE RECORD.

WE'LL BE LONELY.

YEAH, I'LL BE LONELY.

THE,

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I USED TO CALL 'EM ON CHRISTMAS LIKE, HEY, I NEED SOME HELP .

I COULD HEAR 'EM TAPPING ON THE COMPUTER.

I'M LIKE, YOU'RE NOT EVEN LOGGED IN.

BUT NOW THEY HAVE CALLER ID, SO I CAN'T DO THAT.

ANYWAY, I DIGRESS.

UM, SO

[a. Consider setting date, time and location for the next Baytown Police Advisory Committee meeting, along with any related tasks and processes.]

SO WE CAN, I CAN REACH OUT TO JAMIE AND WE CAN, UH, GET A DATE SET TO, YOU KNOW, FOR NOVEMBER, I MEAN, TO LOOK AT JANUARY, DISCUSS IT IN NOVEMBER.

UH, DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY INPUT ON WHAT THE NEXT MEETING DATE SHOULD LOOK LIKE? I'M SORT OF, AND I NEED TO ANNOUNCE, I'VE SORT OF MOVED TO AGENDA ITEM SIX.

UH, WHEN IS THE NEXT MEETING? SO, UH, THE WEEK BEFORE THANKSGIVING IS TUESDAY, NOVEMBER 19TH.

UH, THE WEEK OF THANKSGIVING, OR NO MEETING ARE THE SORT OF THREE OPTIONS HERE.

UM, AND YOU CAN CALL A SPECIAL MEETING IF ANOTHER DAY WORKS FOR YOU.

IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO BE A TUESDAY.

SO IF YOU CHOOSE A DAY, WE CAN PULL TO SEE WHAT DAY WORKS BEST FOR THE BOARD.

UM, IF YOU WOULD LIKE A DAY OTHER THAN TUESDAY IN NOVEMBER, WE WOULD JUST POST IT AS A SPECIAL MEETING.

I MEAN, THE 19TH, THIS SEEMS FINE TO ME, UNLESS YOU GUYS HAVE SOMETHING.

IF IT'S ANYTHING PAST THE 19TH, I WON'T BE HERE.

YEAH.

SO, UH, 19TH WORKS FOR ME RIGHT NOW.

SO THE WEEK OF THANKSGIVING, IT PUTS EVERYBODY IN A CRUTCH.

YEAH.

SO WE CAN, WE CAN PULL FOR THE 19TH, POSSIBLY.

POLICE DEPARTMENT'S CLOSED ON THE 19TH.

I'M JUST KIDDING.

, , NO CRIME ON THE 19TH, NO CRIME ON THE 19TH FROM JANUARY 2ND IT LOOKS LIKE.

RIGHT.

EXACTLY.

CALL BACK ON THE THIRD.

IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S A SPECIAL COUNCIL MEETING FOR NOVEMBER 19TH.

HMM.

SO THAT MAY TUESDAY, NOVEMBER 12TH OR WEDNESDAY, NOVEMBER THE 20TH.

OH, YOU SAID AFTER THE 19TH IF NO ONE WAS AVAILABLE.

I, I MEAN, UM, UNLESS PROBABLY I'M JUST ONE, BUT I WON'T BE HERE.

OKAY.

YEAH.

UNLESS YOU PREFER A MONDAY, I'M OUT OF TOWN THAT WEEK ANYWAY.

BLESS YOU.

THANK YOU.

DO WE WANT, WELL, FOR ME, I CAN ALWAYS HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE COME, SO THAT'S, YEAH.

I MEAN, I CAN SAY WE CAN SKIP THE MEETING IN NOVEMBER, BUT THAT'LL BE LISA MORENO'S FINAL MEETING.

UM, ALSO, SO KIND OF HATE TO DO THAT.

I'M GOOD WITH BOTH.

WOULD YOU LIKE FOR ME TO CHECK WITH DR. MORENO TO SEE WHAT DAY SHE MAY BE AVAILABLE? THAT'S FINE.

I MEAN, THE 19TH IS, UNLESS THERE'S A CONFLICT WITH, UH, YOU KNOW, THE, IF THERE'S A SPECIAL, IF THERE'S ALREADY A MEETING HERE, THERE WILL BE A CITY COUNCIL.

OKAY.

WE COULD PROBABLY DO IT, YOU KNOW, MAYBE SHE COULD GET IT AT LEE COLLEGE, OR WE CAN LOOK AT GETTING IT IN OUR COMMUNITY ROOM AGAIN.

OH, THAT'D BE FINE TOO.

YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.

WE'RE GETTING SO CLOSE TO YEAH.

HAVING PARKING.

I WAS GONNA SAY NOW THE WALKWAY WAS GOOD.

EXACTLY.

AND IF YOU DON'T MIND, I, I KNOW THIS ISN'T MY, MY TIME, BUT, UM, I NEVER MIND.

I WOULD I WOULD LOVE TO LET YOU GUYS COME OVER.

WE'VE GOT OUR 180 DEGREE, UH, UH, FIREARMS TRAINING SIMULATOR UP AND RUNNING NOW, AND WE USE THAT FOR DECISION, CRITICAL DECISION MAKING AND DEESCALATION, NOT JUST A SHOOT, DON'T SHOOT SCENARIO.

UH, WOULD LOVE TO SET UP A TIME THAT BPAC MEMBERS COULD COME OVER AND GO THROUGH THAT AND EXPERIENCE SOME OF THE TRAINING THAT THAT WOULD, THAT WE PUT OUR OFFICERS THROUGH.

YEAH.

THAT'S COOL.

GREAT.

SAR HATE TO JUST THROW YOU UNDER THE BUS, BUT YOU THINK YOU CAN FACILITATE, FACILITATE THAT.

OKAY.

UM, WOULD YOU, WOULD YOU PREFER FOR ME TO PULL WITH DR. MORENO TO MAKE SURE WHAT DAY SHE'S GONNA BE AVAILABLE FOR HER LAST MEETING? Y THAT, YEAH, THAT'S FINE.

I MEAN, IS THE 19TH GOOD FOR THE, FOR THE POLICE OR YOU WANNA CHECK ON THAT AND WE'LL TABLE THAT? I, I DON'T WANNA SAY YES, I'M ALMOST A HUNDRED.

SURE.

IT'S AVAILABLE.

THEN WE CAN CHECK AND CHECK WITH DR. MORENO AND YOU CAN CHECK AND THEN WE'LL FINALIZE IT.

OKAY.

AND WOULD YOU LIKE TO BRING ITEM, UM, THE

[a. Review of previous goals and future planning.]

AND I ACTUALLY WASN'T TRYING TO AVOID THE DISCUSSION AT ALL.

I DIDN'T EXACTLY KNOW IF ANYBODY HAD ANY INPUT ON THIS OR I WAS THINKING THAT THE DISCUSSION REALLY WOULD TAKE PLACE WITH, UH, UH, LISA, WHAT'S HER NAME? I CAN'T REMEMBER HER NAME NOW.

THE JAMIE.

JAMIE, SORRY.

TERRIBLE WITH NAMES.

UM, TWO LETTERS APART NOW.

NAH, I'M CLOSE.

.

AND WE, WE CAN PULL WITH JAMIE.

IT'S JUST IF YOU WANTED TO HAVE ANY DISCUSSION TO BRING BEFORE YOU YEAH.

UM, WORK WITH HER.

I MEAN, DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY INPUT ON, ON GOALS? I MEAN, WHERE DO YOU SEE THE COMMITTEE GOING OR WHAT DO YOU THINK, YOU KNOW, ARE THINGS THAT THE COMMITTEE SHOULD BE DOING? YOU KNOW, SO FAR WE'RE

[00:30:01]

WE GOT THAT ONE HAMMERED, BUT, WELL, GOALS, LET'S SEE.

UH, CHIEF, YOU SPOKE EARLIER ON, WAS IT GREEN'S, GROCERIES? UH, GREG'S, SORRY, GREG'S GROCERIES? YES.

YES.

OKAY.

GREG'S GROCERIES.

AS A MATTER OF FACT, SHE JUST RESPONDED TO ME.

I SENT HER A TEXT EARLIER TODAY.

HUH.

AND, UH, YEAH, SHE RESPONDED TO ME.

I'M GONNA MAYBE DO A CONFERENCE CALL WITH, UH, EXECUTIVE STAFF AND, UH, AND GET HER TO GIVE THEM AN OVERVIEW OF IT AS WELL.

SO, YEAH, I LIKE THE WAY YOU, UM, DESCRIBED IT AS WELL.

AND EVEN, UH, WHEN YOU WENT FURTHER AND, AND SAID, ESPECIALLY WITH THE HOMELESS POPULATION AND, AND HAVING A FOOD AND, UM, PATROL.

CAUSE FOR THAT, WHAT I WOULD WANT TO MAYBE HIGHLIGHT IS THAT BECAUSE WE HAVE, UH, NON-PROFIT AGENCIES HERE, LIKE HEARTS OF HAND, UH, LOVE NETWORK, UH, OPPOSED TO GRABBING FOOD, JUST INFORMATION OR BROCHURES TO LEAD INDIVIDUALS TO THOSE LOCATIONS SINCE THEY'RE ALREADY ESTABLISHED OR, OR TO GIVE THEM THAT TYPE OF RESOURCE WHERE WE CAN HELP, UH, ALONG THE WAY AS WELL, UH, LIKE FOR, YOU KNOW, UH, THE COMMITTEE TO, TO KIND OF THINK ABOUT HOW WE, UM, INTERCONNECT, UH, THE AGENCIES, UH, WITH PD, UH, TO ASSIST IN SOME OF THOSE EFFORTS AS WELL.

I HAVE A, I HAVE A WHAT IF, UM, AND IT JUST HIT ME, AND IF IT'S STUPID, TELL ME WHAT IF BPAC WAS TO CHAMPION A PROJECT, NOT UNLIKE THE, THE STICKERS THAT WERE DONE FOR AUTISM AWARENESS AS WELL AS, UH, UH, UH, MENTAL HEALTH, UM, TO BE ABLE TO PUT A ACTUAL, UH, RESOURCE GUIDE TOGETHER THAT, UH, WAS A PAMPHLET, A BOOKLET, SOME SORT OF QUICK REFERENCE RESOURCE CARD, RIGHT.

THAT COULD BE PRINTED, LAMINATED, AND OUR OFFICERS COULD, COULD CARRY THEM IN OUR VEHICLES AND, AND GIVE THEM TO PEOPLE WHEN THEY NEED 'EM.

UM, I KNOW THAT SOUNDS REALLY SIMPLE, BUT SOME OF THE, THE, THE BEST, THE BEST TOOLS ON THE STREET ARE, ARE, ARE, ARE SIMPLE.

IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE THIS BIG ELABORATE, UH, PROJECT OR EFFORT.

BUT IF, IF THERE COULD BE SOME KIND OF, MAYBE, AGAIN, I USE THE, THE PHRASE THE, THE, THE COMMITTEE.

IF, IF YOU GUYS WERE TO CHAMPION THAT AND REACH OUT MAYBE TO, TO THOSE PARTNERS AND MAYBE SOME CORPORATE SPONSORS, WE'D BE WILLING TO HAVE IT PRINTED UP AND PRODUCED AND X AMOUNT, UH, DISTRIBUTED TO OUR PATROL OFFICERS AND, AND CRIME PREVENTION OFFICERS.

THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING THAT MAN, EVEN IF JUST ONE IN 10 PEOPLE WHO GOT IT USED IT, UM, IF WE'RE MAKING CONTACT WITH, WITH 30 AND 40 PEOPLE A DAY, AND WE'RE GIVING OUT TWO TO THREE OF THOSE A DAY OVER THE COURSE OF THE YEAR, OUT OF THAT ONE IN 10, HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE, ARE GETTING SOME KIND OF HELP.

OKAY.

AND ANOTHER GROUP TO BRING IN INTO THAT SAME DEAL I SEE ON SOCIAL MEDIA ALL THE TIME.

PEOPLE ASKING ABOUT FOOD, WHERE CAN I GET FOOD? THEY'RE ALWAYS REFERRED TO A CHURCH OF SOME SORT.

WHITE HORSES IS ONE OF 'EM.

THERE'S, THERE'S SEVERAL OF THEM IN THIS AREA.

SO IF WE'RE DOING WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, A PAMPHLET OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT TO HAND OUT, MAYBE THOSE PEOPLE CAN GET INVOLVED IN IT ALSO.

RIGHT.

SO THE OFFICER CAN HAND OUT, THE CHURCHES CAN HAND OUT.

I THINK IT'S GREAT.

SO SOMETHING THAT, UH, THE COMMITTEE WILL, WILL LOOK AT FURTHER, RIGHT? YEAH.

WE'LL HAVE THIS TYPE OF DISCUSSION.

YEAH, I THINK THAT'S A GOOD IDEA.

YEAH.

GOOD.

WELL CHIEF ALREADY HELPED US OUT.

THERE YOU GO.

I LOVE THE IDEA OF HAVING THE NON-PERISHABLE RESOURCE KIT, UH, FOR OFFICERS TO HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, TO GIVE OUT TO HOMELESS CITIZENS WHO ARE IN NEED.

I KNOW THIS IS GONNA SOUND STRANGE TO YOU GUYS, BUT ARE HOMELESS PEOPLE NOT IN NEED OF FOOD PEOPLE WHO CALL AND ASK FOR FOOD OR PEOPLE WHO REALLY, REALLY NEED FOOD? YEAH.

MM-HMM .

THE HOMELESS PEOPLE, OFFICER KING IS IN, IN CONTACT AND HE WORKS WITH HPD AND ALL OF OUR HOMELESS PEOPLE THAT KING COMES INTO CONTACT WITH, HE OFFERS TO HELP THEM GET AN ID, A SOCIAL SECURITY CARD, HOUSING, FOOD, AND A JOB.

OVER 90% OF THEM TURN THAT DOWN.

YEAH.

AND THAT'S WHERE THE MENTAL HEALTH ISSUE

[00:35:01]

YEP.

THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE IN HOUSTON SAYS, IF YOU'RE HOMELESS, YOU HAVE TO BE MENTALLY ILL.

I PERSONALLY DON'T BELIEVE THAT.

I BELIEVE IT'S A LIFESTYLE THAT A LOT OF THEM HAVE GOTTEN USED TO AND DON'T WANT TO CHANGE, YOU KNOW? BUT, UH, IF WE CAN PUT SOME FOOD IN MY PERSONABLES AND IN PEOPLE'S HANDS, THEN WE'RE GONNA HELP 'EM.

BUT IT'S THE PEOPLE THAT ARE ASKING HOMELESS PEOPLE WILL TURN THAT DOWN AND WANT YOUR MONEY IN A HEARTBEAT.

YEAH.

AND WHAT WE'LL SEE IS, AND, AND, AND, AND THERE ARE SOME WHO WILL NEED IT.

RIGHT.

BUT WHAT WE'RE SEEING IS IT'S OUR, IT'S OUR PEOPLE WITH FAMILIES THAT ARE NEEDING THAT.

MM-HMM .

AND I, UH, IT ALWAYS MAKES ME THINK OF VICTOR HUGO'S RAB, RIGHT? IS, UH, YOU HAVE THIS GOOD GUY WHO'S FAMILY IS STARVING AND HE STEALS A LOAF OF BREAD TO FEED HIS FAMILY.

OTHERWISE HE'S A GOOD MAN.

AND OF COURSE, THE STORY, YOU KNOW, KIND OF GOES ON FROM THERE WITH THE DRAMA AND STUFF.

BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE WILL STEAL TO FEED WHEN THEY HAVE TO OR THEY'LL DO OTHER THINGS.

AND IF WE CAN MEET THAT IMMEDIATE NEED FOR A FAMILY, FOR SOMEONE WHO NEEDS IT RIGHT THEN AND THERE, THEN YOU KNOW, MAYBE WE PUT THEM IN A POSITION TO, TO MAKE A BETTER DECISION.

YOU KNOW? UM, BUT IF WE COMBINE THAT WITH A RESOURCE PAMPHLET THAT'S STURDY AND ROBUST ENOUGH TO, TO STAND UP AGAINST BEING PUT IN YOUR POCKET AND ELEMENTS OR, OR, OR WHATEVER THAT, UH, OKAY, I'M NEEDING FOR THE NEXT TWO DAYS, NOW I CAN CALL THESE PEOPLE AND MAYBE THEY CAN HELP ME FIND A JOB OR GET MEDICAL ASSISTANCE.

UM, I DON'T KNOW IF, IF I'M ARTICULATING THAT RIGHT.

DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? SO SURE IT DOES.

BUT YEAH, WE SEE A LOT OF, WE, WE HAVE ALSO BEEN TOLD THAT SOME OF OUR INFLUX WITH THE HOMELESS POPULATION IS BECAUSE SOME OF THE OTHER JURISDICTIONS ARE NOT AS, UM, NICE.

OR THEY ARE MORE PRONE TO GO STRAIGHT TO ENFORCEMENT ACTIONS WITH THEM AND NOT GONNA SAY HOW THEY TREAT 'EM.

UH, 'CAUSE I DON'T KNOW.

UM, BUT, UH, YOU KNOW, WE, WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO DO THE, THE PROBLEM SOLVING LIKE OFFICER KING DOES, AND I DON'T KNOW, SARGE, I'M GUESSING IT PROBABLY TAKES SEVEN OR EIGHT TRIES, KINDA LIKE MAKING INTERDICTION ON A DRUG ADDICT BEFORE THEY ACTUALLY ACCEPT SOME HELP.

YEAH.

WE, UH, WE HAD HIM INSIDE THE OLD GOLDEN CORRAL A COUPLE MONTHS AGO, AND OFFICER KING HAD BEEN INTO CONTACT WITH HIM THREE OR FOUR TIMES, AND I WAS WITH HIM ON THIS PARTICULAR OCCASION, AND A GUY FINALLY ACCEPTED HELP AND KING DROVE HIM TO HOUSTON AND HE STARTED THE PROCESS WITH HIM WHERE HE IS GONNA GET AN ID, A SOCIAL SECURITY CARD, THEY'RE GONNA WORK ON HELPING HIM GETTING A JOB AND HOUSING.

AND, AND IT WAS REALLY COOL TO SEE THAT BECAUSE ONE OUT OF 10, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, YOU REACHED ONE ONE AND YOU STARTED THE PROCESS.

IF HE, THEY HAVE TO STICK WITH IT.

YEAH.

OFFICER KING AND I WENT AND RODE WITH HOUSTON POLICE DEPARTMENT'S OUTREACH TEAM, HOMELESS OUTREACH TEAM, AND I WAS SO IMPRESSED WITH HOW THEY DID THINGS AND THE RESOURCES THEY HAD.

IT WAS, I MEAN, IT WAS LIKE THEY CARED.

IT'S LIKE, WE'RE NOT GONNA GO, AH, HE'S BEGGING FOR, FOR MONEY OVER HERE.

GET HIM OFF THAT INTERSECTION.

NO, WE, WE WOULD PULL UP WITH HIM AND, HEY, YOU WANT SOME HELP, LET'S GO.

AND, UH, IT WAS, IT WAS, IT WAS NEAT.

AND I WISH WE COULD GET THAT DONE HERE OR WE WILL GET IT DONE.

IT'S JUST, WE WILL, IT'S GONNA TAKE A LITTLE TIME.

AND THERE IS A LADY AT THE LIBRARY, NOT, UH, NOT THE LADY THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.

MM-HMM.

THERE'S ANOTHER LADY THAT GOES UP THERE EVERY TUESDAY AND MAKES IDS FOR HOMELESS PEOPLE EVERY TUESDAY.

JUST TO LET Y'ALL KNOW ANYBODY THAT NEEDS ONE.

SO SHE WORKS FOR THE STATE.

I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S THE STATE OR THE COUNTY.

I THINK IT'S THE COUNTY.

I'M NOT SURE.

BUT YEAH, THEY, UH, THEY MAKE 'EM IDS EVERY TUESDAY.

WELL, I THINK, I MEAN, WE'RE ON ITEM SEVEN.

ADJOURNING THE MEETING, UNLESS THERE'S SOMETHING THAT I'M MISSING.

BUT WE'RE GONNA COME BACK TO SETTING THE NEXT MEETING AFTER WE TALK TO DR. MORENO.

UH, YES.

SO WE WILL PULL WITH DR. MORENO MM-HMM .

UM, SEND OUT THE DRAFT AGENDA AND THEN MAKE SURE IF ANYTHING THAT YOU OR DR. MORENO ARE NEEDING ON IT.

AND THEN, UM, LOCATION IS EVERYTHING.

YEAH.

YEAH.

AND WE'LL, WE'LL GET, UH, IN TOUCH WITH THE LADY AT THE, AT STERLING LIBRARY AND GET THAT SET UP FOR JANUARY.

WE'LL REACH OUT TO JAMIE AS WELL.

YEAH.

AND I'LL LET YOU KNOW TOMORROW, NO MATTER WHAT, IF OUR, OUR ROOM

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OKAY.

, WELL, I MEAN THAT.

SO THERE FOR NO FURTHER ITEMS. YEAH.

ARE THERE ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY, ANYTHING ELSE WITH ANY FURTHER ITEMS? GOING ONCE, GOING TWICE? NO.

ADJOURN THE MEETING AT SIX 40.

YOU ADJOURN THE MEETING AT 6 45? YEAH.

PM YES SIR.

THANKS.