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[ CITY OF BAYTOWN NOTICE OF MEETING BAYTOWN CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN (CIP) COMMITTEE THURSDAY, SEPTEMBER 26, 2024 4:00 P.M. HULLUM CONFERENCE ROOM, BAYTOWN CITY HALL 2401 MARKET STREET, BAYTOWN, TEXAS 77520 AGENDA CALL TO ORDER AND ANNOUNCEMENT OF QUORUM ]
YOU GONNA READ OFF? UM, OR,[a. Review of Proposed FY25 Capital Improvement Plan.]
YEAH, WELL, UH, I THINK FRANK'S GONNA RUN THROUGH THE PRESENTATION TO KIND OF SHOW THAT.AND, UM, I'M GONNA PASS THIS OUT AFTER THIS PRESENTATION.
YOU KNOW, JUST TO TRY TO SUMMARIZE, I GUESS, WHAT THE COMMITTEE'S RECOMMENDATION IS FOR THIS YEAR.
UH, THIS IS A LIST OF THE NEW PROJECTS, UH, IN 25, OR THE PROJECTS IN 25 THAT HAVE NEW FUNDING ASSOCIATED WITH THEM.
AND THAT WOULD PRETTY MUCH BE THE BASIS OF THE RECOMMENDATION FOR THE CIP COMMITTEE FOR THIS FISCAL YEAR.
NOW, AS I UNDERSTAND IT, THIS IS ALREADY INCLUDED IN THE BUDGET AND IN THE COUNCIL DISCUSSIONS YOU'VE SEEN THIS AS WELL.
BUT JUST TO KIND OF PUT, UM, I GUESS A BOW ON, YOU KNOW, YOUR, YOUR ROLE, UM, JUST MAKING SURE THAT THAT'S WHAT YOU ALL ARE COMFORTABLE.
IT IT IS IN WHAT YOU HAVE IN THE PRESENTATION THERE.
BRENT SAID WE'RE AT THE 11TH HOUR, 59TH MINUTE HERE.
THIS IS, UM, WE CHANGED OUR MIND JUST TO COME BACK.
SO THIS IS JUST TO, I GUESS, SUMMARIZE WHAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, FOR THE LAST FEW MONTHS.
UM, AND LAST TIME WE TALKED ABOUT THIS, WE WENT THROUGH A LOT OF, UH, THE TRANSFERS WE'RE DOING WITH EXISTING FUNDS AND RESHUFFLING SOME PROJECTS THAT IS REALLY NOT WHAT IS SHOWN HERE AS A RECOMMENDATION BECAUSE THIS IS THE FY 25.
THIS IS JUST NEW FUNDING THAT WE'RE TALKING.
UM, THEN WE HAVE IT BROKEN UP BETWEEN, ON THE LEFT YOU HAVE EACH OF THE PROGRAMS. AND THEN ON THE RIGHT IS, UH, A SUMMARY OF THE FUNDING SOURCES.
SO WE'VE GOT A, A DETAILED SHEET FOR EACH, UM, PROGRAM THAT WE CAN GO THROUGH.
UH, LOOKING AT THE SUMMARY OF THE FUNDING SOURCES, WE'VE GOT SOME CASH SOURCES IN BOTH BYLAW AND WATER AND SEWER.
THE GENERAL FUND DEBT, 10.825, THAT IS JUST FIRE STATION TWO.
AND THAT WAS THE DIRECTION FROM FINANCE COMMITTEE WITH FY 25 TO ONLY, UH, ISSUE DEBT FOR, UM, GENERAL FUND DEBT FOR THE FIRE STATION.
AND THAT WILL BE ISSUED BY THE CO LATER IN THE YEAR.
SO THE FINANCE COMMITTEE GETS TO MAKE THAT DECISION ON THEIR OWN OF WHAT THEY WANT TO ISSUE DEBT FOR AND WHAT THEY DON'T.
BECAUSE I THOUGHT THEY JUST MADE DISCUSSIONS AND, AND THE COUNCIL, WE WOULD TALK ABOUT IT.
YEAH, SAME, SAME BASIC, UM, APPROACH AS WHAT WE WE'RE DOING HERE.
YOU ALL ARE REVIEWING, WE'VE HAD CONVERSATIONS GOING INTO WHAT WAS PRESENTED IN THE BUDGET, BUT UM, YOU KNOW, THEY DON'T MAKE FORMAL DECISIONS.
THERESA, DID YOU WANT TO TALK? WELL, I WAS JUST GONNA SAY NO, IT WOULD BE BROAD TO YOU GUYS TO VOTE ON IT.
THAT'S JUST THEIR RECOMMENDATION.
WE RECOMMEND WHAT PROJECTS THAT WE WANNA SEE.
THEY RECOMMEND HOW TO FUND IT, AND THEN WE VOTE ON IT AS COUNCIL.
IS THAT RIGHT? IDEALLY THOSE WOULD HAPPEN BEFORE THE LAST ADOPTING THE BUDGET.
EACH, EACH COMMITTEE HAS A RECOMMENDATION, BUT WE HAVE TO WORK HAND IN HAND BECAUSE, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE KIND OF LIMITED ON FUNDING BY WHAT, YOU KNOW, RECOMMENDED FOR THAT.
AND OTHERWISE I WANT THE FIRE STATION.
I THINK WHAT MY POINT IS, IS THAT I KNOW THAT THEY, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT NOT DOING DEBT, PARTICULARLY CERTAIN PEOPLE IN COUNCIL AND SO IT'S INTERESTING THAT THEY'RE RECOMMENDING THIS AS AN IMPORTANT THING TO ISSUE DEBT ON.
BUT YET OTHER PEOPLE HAVE OTHER, I'M NOT ON THE FINANCE COMMITTEE, SO I MIGHT WANNA ISSUE DEBT FOR SOMETHING ELSE, BUT I DON'T EVEN HAVE A CHANCE TO PUT IT UP THERE BECAUSE I'M NOT ON THAT COMMITTEE.
AND YOU'RE NOT ACTUALLY MAKING THE RECOMMENDATION ON THIS PIECE, JUST ON THE PROJECTS.
UM, AND THEN AS A FULL COUNSEL, YOU ALL WILL VOTE ON THE BUDGET, EVERYTHING INCLUDED.
AND WHEN UM, IT COMES TIME TO, UH, ISSUE COS FOR THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT'S CERTAINLY A POINT IN TIME WHERE THAT DECISION CAN BE MADE BY THE
IS THIS ONE FOR CO OR COS 25 WOULD BE THE LAST, BECAUSE WE'D INITIALLY TALKED ABOUT THERE WAS FOR THE 25 15
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THAT FOR THIS YEAR, 24, UM, FOR 24, UM, I PRESENTED THAT WE POTENTIALLY WOULD DO 13 BECAUSE THE ESTIMATE WE HAVE IS LIKE 2.8.IF THEY WERE ONLY DOING THE FIRE STATION, UM, I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAD A TARGET OF JUST 15.
YEAH, IT'S, WE DID THAT IN PRIOR YEAR.
AGAIN, GENERAL FINDING IS ABOUT 15 MILLION IS WHAT STICKS IN MY MIND.
AND SO I'M KIND OF WITH MY COLLEAGUE HERE IS KIND, WE DID THAT SHIFT AND THEN THIS RANK INDICATED WE MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS ON PROJECTS.
I THOUGHT WE MADE RED RECOMMENDATIONS ON PROJECTS TO TOTAL ABOUT 15 MILLION AND NOW IT'S 10.
YEAH, I WASN'T, PROJECTS GOT DROPPED OFF AGAIN ABOVE YOUR PAY GRADE.
I'M NOT PICKING UP, I UNDERSTAND YOUR, THE POINT WASN'T TO RUFFLE FEATHERS, IT'S JUST THAT WE WERE PUT ON THIS COMMITTEE TO PRIORITIZE PROJECTS AS A COUNCIL.
WE SAID WE DON'T WANT TO GO INTO DEBT.
WE TALKED ABOUT THAT EXTENSIVELY.
AND SO, ALTHOUGH I SUPPORT GOING INTO DEBT TO DO THE FIRE STATION, IT'S JUST INTERESTING TO ME THAT OUR COMMITTEE'S JOB WAS TO RECOMMEND PROJECTS.
BUT WHAT I'M SEEING IS NOT ONLY DID THEY, BECAUSE I ALREADY KNOW THEY WERE PRESENTED WITH CERTAIN PROJECTS.
'CAUSE LIKE YOU SAID, THERE HAS TO BE SOME HAND IN HAND.
SO THEY WERE BASICALLY SAID, THESE WERE THE PROJECTS AND NOW THEY'VE SAID, OKAY, WELL WE'RE, WE'RE GONNA ISSUE THIS DEBT AND THIS IS WHAT WE'RE GONNA GET.
WHERE DID THE OTHER PROJECTS GO THAT WERE IMPORTANT? AND SO I FEEL LIKE NOW I'M, WE'RE BACK TO BASE ONE IN MY MIND, WHICH WE DON'T HAVE TIME FOR.
AND IT'S JUST INTERESTING BECAUSE IT MAKES IT FEEL LIKE ALL THE WORK AND ALL THE THINGS THAT WE'VE BEEN SITTING HERE DOING ARE PRETTY MUCH OBSOLETE AT THIS POINT.
IF FINANCE COMMITTEE GETS TO DECIDE HOW MUCH DEBT, WHAT PROJECTS WHEN THEY'RE ISSUING, AND Y'ALL JUST COME BACK, SHOW THIS TO US AND GO RUBBER STAMP, YOU'RE GOOD.
OH, BUT YOU'LL GET TO VOTE ON IT LATER.
BUT THAT'S WHAT IT FEELS LIKE.
I MEAN, Y'ALL DOING WHAT YOU GONNA DO BE THEY'LL BE, THERE'LL BE IF WE HAVE MORE CONVERSATION, GET TO THIS POINT, YOU KNOW, COUPLE MONTHS BEFORE, BUT AS A DOCTOR YOU HAVE TIME TO WORK OUT THOSE.
WE'VE BEEN HERE LONG ENOUGH TO SEE DIFFERENT WAYS, DIFFERENT THINGS WORK.
UM, AGAIN, ON THE RIGHT SIDE, UH, WE HAVE SOME GRANTS.
THE, THE BIGGEST ONE THERE IS GONNA BE FOR THE EOC, UH, EXPANSION AND RENOVATION.
AND THEN WE HAVE, UH, C-D-B-C-G GRANTS FOR, UM, A COUPLE THINGS.
THERE'S, UH, OAKLAND STREET RECONSTRUCTION AND THEN THERE'S FOUR LIFT STATIONS.
3, 3, 4, 3 LIFT STATIONS, UH, THAT WE HAVE GRANTS.
UM, SO THAT'S WHAT'S IN THERE.
THE WATER AND SEWER DEBT AND IMPACT FEES.
WELL, I I CAN COVER ALL THE WATER SEWER, UH, PROJECTS IN A LATER SLIDE, MOVE INTO THE PROGRAMS. UH, BOW IS THE FIRST ONE.
WE HAVE, UH, TWO PROJECTS THAT WOULD BE, UH, NEW PROJECTS AND FY 25, UH,
AND THEN, UM, THE CONDITION ASSESSMENT REPORT, I THINK I MENTIONED THAT PREVIOUSLY, TO GIVE US A LONG TERM PLAN OF WHAT NEEDS TO BE REPLACED WHEN.
SO THAT WILL HELP, UH, GOING INTO, UM, FACILITIES.
AS WE SAID, THE NEW NEW FUNDING IS THE FIRE STATION TWO AND THE POC EXPANSION, UH, TRANSPORTATION, JUST THE OAK LEAF STREET CONSTRUCTION, WHICH IS, SAY THAT WOULD BE
IT'S A FAIRLY SHORT SEGMENT FOR RECONSTRUCTION.
UH, MOVING INTO WATER SEW WASTEWATER TREATMENT.
WE'VE GOT A FEW PROJECTS HERE.
UM, WE ARE CONTINUING ON OUR ARPA, UH, PROJECT.
WE HAD, YOU KNOW, SOME ARPA FUNDING A COUPLE YEARS AGO AND PRIMARILY USING THOSE
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FUNDS FOR, UH, SCADA THE REMOTE MONITORING AND, UM, AND, UH, ADJUSTMENT OF OUR WASTEWATER SYSTEM, THE LIFT STATIONS AND THE PLANTS.SO THAT, THAT IS GONNA HELP US OUT A LOT.
AND WE'VE GOT A REHABILITATION ON THE WEST DISTRICT, WHICH IS THE PLANT AT THREE 30 AND I 10.
UH, SO THE WEST DISTRICT PLANT IS REALLY, UM, IT'S REALLY TWO PLANTS IN ONE.
THERE'S, UM, WHAT IS IT,
YOU HAD A, AN OLDER PLANT AND THEN BUILT 15, 20, 15 OR SO AROUND THERE AND BUILT BASICALLY A PARALLEL FOR THE, WELL, THE FLOWS WEREN'T HIGH ENOUGH TO KEEP BOTH SIDES, THE OPERATING.
AND SO YOU BASICALLY HAVEN'T RUN THE OLD PLANT IN A LOT.
AND NOW THE FLOWS ARE PICKING UP TO WHERE WE NEED TO USE BOTH SIDES AND IT NEEDS TO BE BROUGHT UP ION THREE 30 AND I 10 SOUTH OF I 10.
AND, UH, WASTEWATER COLLECTION.
WE'VE GOT, I THINK WE HAVE, UH, WELL, SEVERAL LARGE LIFT STATION PROJECTS.
THERE'S I 10 LIFT STATION NUMBER TWO, WHICH IS, UH, NORTH OF I 10, KIND OF ON THE, UH, EAST SIDE IS REALLY SUPPORTING DEVELOPMENT NORTH OF I 10.
UM, THEN YOU'VE GOT TEXAS AVENUE LIFT STATION.
THIS IS THE ONE GOES TO THE LIBRARY PARK THERE.
THAT ONE WILL BE REHABILITATED.
AND THEN I 10 LIFT STATION NUMBER ONE IS ACROSS THE STREET PARKING.
YEAH, IT MAKES CHICK-FIL-A ACROSS THE HIGHWAY.
AND THAT, THAT IS A MAJOR LIFT STATION.
IT SERVES BOTH THE SAN JACINTO AREA AND A LOT OF AREA NORTH AND THAT, AND IT, IT'S COSTS SO MUCH BECAUSE THERE'S ALSO A LAW ENFORCEMENT THAT WE'RE, UM, REPLACING WITH THAT.
IT GOES FROM BASICALLY THE BUCKY'S ALL THE WAY TO THE WEST DISTRICT TREATMENT PLANT.
SO, UM, IT'S A LARGE PROJECT AND THOSE ARE SOME, AND THE OTHER LIFT STATIONS YOU SEE THERE ARE THE SMALLER ONES THAT WE HAVE THE GRANTS, UH, MOVING INTO WATER DISTRIBUTION.
WE'VE GOT SOME MONEY PUT IN FOR, UH, LEAD SERVICE LINE REPLACEMENT.
WE STILL DON'T KNOW THE, THE TOTAL IMPACT OF THIS.
THIS IS THE REQUIREMENT FROM, UH, THE STATE THAT WE, YOU KNOW, REPLACE ANY SERVICE LINES THAT HAVE LEAD.
AND WE HAVEN'T FINISHED THE INVENTORY TO KNOW EXACTLY THE SCOPE OF THAT, BUT WE'RE PUTTING SOME MONEY IN THERE SO WE CAN START THAT.
UH, AND THEN WE'VE GOT A NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, WATERLINE REHAB THAT, UH, WE WANTED TO START, YOU KNOW, SYSTEMATICALLY GOING THROUGH ALL THE NEIGHBORHOODS AND MAKING SURE THAT THE WATER LINES WERE, YOU KNOW, THAT THEY ALSO HAVE THE WATER METER REPLACEMENT THAT IS TO UPGRADE ALL THE METERS TO THE AUTOMATED I, SO THAT WE CAN HAVE THE, UM, THE METERS READ SO THE RESIDENTS CAN OWN THEIR USE.
THEY'LL BE REALTIME USAGE THINGS.
THINK SO THEN WE'RE GONNA GET ALL OF OUR METERS DONE.
YES, I'D ALWAYS BEEN UNDER THE IMPRESSION WE ALREADY DID THAT ONCE BEFORE AND THEN THE COMMENT WAS MADE NOT TOO LONG AGO THAT NOT ALL OF THE METERS HAD BEEN DONE.
YOU, UM, WHEN WE HAD THE MEETING, THEY RECOMMENDED, UM, FINANCE COMMITTEE RECOMMENDED THAT WE ADD TO DO ALL THE MEETINGS SO THAT WE WOULDN'T BE PHASED IN SO SLOWLY.
AGAIN, I WAS UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT WE HAD DONE ALL THE METERS IN THE CITY AND THEN IT CAME OUT THAT NO, ABOUT HALF I'S KIND.
SO WE NEED TO GET 'EM ALL DONE.
NUMBER TAKES CARE OF ALL THAT.
UM, LEAD SERVICE LINE REPLACEMENT, IS THAT RELATED TO THE, UM, TESTING INSTRUCTIONS WE SENT OUT TO ALL THE RESIDENTS? YEP.
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WE'VE GOT SOME OTHER OPERATIONAL PROJECTS, YOU KNOW, ELEVATED STORAGE TEAM, THINGS LIKE THAT.MAINLY THE TRANS I BORDERLINE IS, UM, THAT IS BIG, THE LARGER DIAMETER BORDERLINES THAT WE NEED TO SYSTEMATICALLY REPLACE AS WELL.
AND THAT KIND OF COVERS ALL THE PROGRAMS. UM, YOU SAID YOU HAVE A SUMMARY SHEET IN FRONT OF YOU THAT SUMMARIZE EVERYTHING THAT WE JUST PRESENTED.
UM, IF YOU DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT RIGHT.
WHY YOU TALK ABOUT GOING INTO NEXT YEAR, THE, THE GEO BOND, UH, ELECTION THAT RESTORING
I ACTUALLY WATER TREATMENT ON PLACE, BOTH, THIS IS THE ACTUAL, UM, FINAL FINAL DOCUMENT.
UM, AND I THINK IT'D BE GOOD IF YOU ALL ARE COMFORTABLE IN JUST KIND OF CONFIRMING THIS AS A BOARD THAT THIS IS YOUR Y 25 RECOMMENDATION.
I THINK BASED ON THE PREVIOUS COMMENTS, I THINK MOST OF THE WASTEWATER PROJECTS, WATER DISTRIBUTION PROJECTS, TREATMENT PROJECTS, I THINK THESE ARE ALL AS A COMMITTEE.
AS AS A COMMITTEE CHAIR, I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT WE FOLLOW STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS PRETTY WHOLEHEARTEDLY.
Y'ALL, Y'ALL UNDERSTAND THE DETAILS AS FAR AS THOSE ACTIVITIES.
WHEN WE FIRST STARTED THIS, WE HAD, THESE WERE KIND OF BROKEN OUT AND WE HAD THE SECTION WE CALLED THE GENERAL FUND SECTION.
AND THAT'S WHERE, I'M GONNA GO BACK TO THE, I I THOUGHT THAT WAS WHAT WE'VE DISCUSSED IN HERE WAS A NUMBER OF PROJECTS THAT WE POINTED ABOUT 15 MILLION.
SOMEHOW WE'VE GOTTEN LOST IN, IN THESE CATEGORIES AS TO WHAT THOSE PROJECTS ARE.
AGAIN, I I'M JUST ONE OF THREE, BUT I I PERSONALLY DON'T HAVE ANY ISSUES WITH, AGAIN, THE WATER DISTRIBUTION PROJECTS, WASTEWATER COLLECTION PROJECTS, THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PROJECTS, OBVIOUSLY TRANSPORTATION PROJECT AS FAR AS OAKLEY, IT'S A GRANT.
LET'S, LET'S SPEND SOMEBODY ELSE'S MONEY.
WE'RE, WE'RE, I'M, I'M, WE'RE GONNA BE HESITANT IS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT GOING OUT IN DEBT TO ABOUT 15 MILLION.
THOSE PROJECTS ARE NOT CLEARLY IDENTIFIED TO US RIGHT NOW.
AND SO TO, TO YOUR COMMENT, I'LL APPROVE ALL, I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE
IF I DIG THEM UP, I'LL SEND THEM OUT TO, I'LL CONSIDER MY COURT AND FIND, YEAH, I GOT MY BIG BINDER, I JUST DIDN'T BRING IT.
SO I'M, I'M A LITTLE, AGAIN, THESE PROJECTS THAT MAKE ABSOLUTE SENSE TO ME, I HOPE THEY DO TO Y'ALL.
SO, BUT THAT'S NOT WHERE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
THE GENERAL FUND DEBT SIDE OF IT IS, IS WHAT REALLY WE UNDERSTOOD IS THAT'S REALLY ONLY PLACE WE HAVE TO PLAY.
ALL THESE OTHERS ARE PRETTY MUCH REQUIRED.
WE'VE GOTTA GET THIS STUFF DONE.
UH, IT RELATES TO THE STORM WATER ISSUES, IT RELATES TO THE OSS STUFF AND, AND ALL THAT OTHER, SO YEAH, I SUPPORT ALL THESE HUNDRED PERCENT.
UH, I JUST WANNA BE CLEAR WHERE THAT GENERAL FUND PIECE WITH I 100% AGREE WITH YOU WANTED TO ANSWER MY, THAT'S WHERE WE'RE I DO EVERYTHING EXCEPT FOR THE ISSUANCE OF DEBT FOR A LIST THAT WE PRETTY MUCH DID NOT.
THIS IS, THIS IS NOT THE EXTENT OF WHAT WE WORKED ON.
AND, AND I UNDERSTAND THE FINANCE COMMITTEE SAYS, WELL, WE WANT TO, AND IT MAY BE THEY SAID, WELL, WE WANNA BRING THAT DOWN FROM THAT NUMBER TO THIS NUMBER.
AND THIS WAS A PRIORITY PROJECT I GOT THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY TO DISCUSS THAT MAJORITY OF THE CONVERSATION WAS RELATED TO, UM, GOING OUT FOR A GEO BOND.
UM, AND I THINK THE REASON THEY SETTLED ON THE FIRE STATION IS SIMPLY BECAUSE WE'VE KIND OF ALREADY MOVED FORWARD WITH THAT.
AND IF IT WAS VOTED DOWN, WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD.
BUT WE HAD TALKED ABOUT THAT THERE WAS ABOUT A $15 MILLION CO ISSUANCE POTENTIAL IF THE FINANCE COMMITTEE, AND THIS IS WHERE, THIS IS ABOVE Y'ALL'S PAY GRADE.
I'M NOT FUSSING AT ANYBODY HERE PLEASE.
BUT IF THE FINANCE COMMITTEE CAME BACK AND SAID, WE WANT TO CUT THAT FROM 15 MILLION DOWN TO 10, THAT'S THEIR PREROGATIVE.
BUT WE DIDN'T HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SAY, WELL, YEAH, WE HAD THESE RANKED THIS WAY BASED ON 15 MILLION, YOU'RE TELLING ME NOW IT'S 10.
WE MIGHT HAVE GONE BACK AND SAID, WE'RE
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GONNA SHUFFLE THAT BACK UP AND RE-RANK THEM AGAIN.I, AND THEY MIGHT HAVE DONE THAT.
THEY MIGHT REPLACEMENT NEW FIRE STATION IS A PRIORITY.
PROBABLY WE WOULD STAY THE PRIORITY, BUT WE DIDN'T HAVE THAT DISCUSSION IN HERE.
SO TO ME, AS THE CHAIRMAN OF THIS COMMITTEE, LIKE FINANCE COMMITTEE JUST TOLD ME WHAT MY PROJECTS ARE, FOLKS, THAT'S NOT GONNA HAPPEN.
ANY OF Y'ALL THAT KNOW ME KNOW THAT'S NOT GONNA HAPPEN.
I AGREE WITH IT, BUT I'M NOT, I'D LIKE TO HAVE THAT DISCUSSION.
BUT AS FAR AS THE LIST Y'ALL GOT, FRANK, I THINK YOU'VE DONE A GREAT JOB LAYING IT OUT, SEEING THE, THE MAJOR PRIORITIES THAT WE REALLY NEED TO ADDRESS.
AGAIN, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT PROJECTS THAT ARE USED, EXISTING THINGS, SO WE HAVE OTHER PROJECTS THAT ARE CONTINUING.
I DIDN'T WANNA GO THROUGH THAT WHOLE LIST.
YEAH, AND I THINK THAT MAY BE WHERE THE DISCONNECT IS, IS BECAUSE THE PROJECTS THAT YOU HAVE ON THAT LIST ARE ONLY, ONLY USED QUOTE UNQUOTE NEW FUNDING.
UM, IF THERE'S A PROJECT OUT THERE THAT'S USING REALLOCATED FUNDS OR WHATNOT, THAT'S ALREADY, THEY'VE ALREADY BEEN YOU PREVIOUSLY APPROPRIATED IT'S NOT GONNA BE IN HERE.
SO I THINK THERE'S A, UM, WE'LL HAVE TO, I THINK MAYBE WE JUST NEED TO GET THE LIST.
AND THEN REAL QUICK, 'CAUSE I, AND I HOPE IT'S
BUT WE, YOU KNOW, THE ONES WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WHERE WE SHUFFLED BACK AND FORTH.
SO IF WE, IF YOU TELL US, OKAY, NO, THIS PROJECT IS STILL FUNDED, IT'S JUST NOT A NEWLY FUNDED, THEN IT'LL MAKE SENSE.
BUT THERE WAS A MEETING WE HAD THAT WE SAT IN HERE FOR A WHILE AND THE NUMBER WAS 15.
I WHOLEHEARTEDLY AGREE WITH THAT.
SO, AND, AND AGAIN, WE'LL WORK AND IT MAY BE 11TH HOUR, 59TH, MINUTE AND 33 SECONDS.
WE MAY HAVE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH, WITH THIS.
BUT, UM, THERE'LL BE SOME CONTINUED DISCUSSIONS.
SO I THINK Y'ALL DID A GREAT JOB PREPARING THE LIST.
I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE FOR THIS.
IS THERE ANOTHER PORTION OF SOME OF THE CIP YOU WANT TO GO OVER? CLIFF LOOKS LIKE HE WANTS TO DO A PRESENTATION.
UH, SO WE, WE SET THE STAGE FOR, HEY, WHAT I WAS NERVOUS.
IF IT'S FOR PARKS, I'M ALREADY VOTING.
UH, WE, WE, WE WANTED TO BRING TO YOU A COUPLE OF, UH, PLAN CHANGES TO TWO PROJECTS IN PARTICULAR.
UM, WE, WE HAD TALKED ABOUT, UM, KIND OF THE IDEAS OF IT PARKS BOARD AND, AND FAVOR.
WE JUST WANNA KEEP BEING AWARE OF THE CHANGES.
UH, THE GOOD NEWS IS, IS THAT BOTH PROJECTS ARE STILL GOING TO BE, ARE STILL AIMED TO ACCOMPLISH THE GOALS OF THE ORIGINAL PROJECTS, UH, AND NOT HAVE TO REQUIRE ANY MORE FUNDING.
SO IT'S, UH, IT'S REALLY MORE OF JUST AN FYI, UH, THE FIRST ONE IS OUR LAKEWOOD PARK PROJECT.
UM, IF YOU REMEMBER, WE WENT OUT TO THE NATIONAL NIGHT OUT.
WE, WE ENGAGED WITH THE RESIDENTS AROUND THERE TO COME UP WITH A PARK.
WE HAD THREE DIFFERENT SITES THEY PICKED FROM, UM, FOR THE PROJECT GOAL IS TO PROVIDE A, A, A RECREATIONAL, UH, PARK OR A DOG PARK TO THE LAKEWOOD AREA.
UM, THIS WAS THE SITE THAT WAS ULTIMATELY SELECTED BY THE RESIDENTS IS, UH, THE BLUE THING THERE IS THE LIQUID POOL.
UH, JUST FOR YOUR REFERENCE, UM, AND I'M, I'M, IF I'M GOING TOO QUICK ON THIS, LET ME KNOW AND I, I'LL GO INTO MORE DETAIL.
UH, THE, THE REASON WE HAVE TO CHANGE IT THOUGH IS THAT THE, UH, THERE'S A DIFFERENCE IN THE HARRIS COUNTY RECORDS, UH, THAT AFFECTED THE GIS MAPPING.
SO WHAT WE THOUGHT WAS, THIS ACTUALLY TURNED INTO THE BLUE PORTION HERE.
THAT RED PORTION THERE WASN'T OWNED BY THE CITY, UM, AFTER SURVEYING AND, AND WHATNOT.
UH, AND SO THE AREA THAT WAS LEFT, A LOT OF IT WAS UNDER, UH, FLOOD LEVELS AND IT DIDN'T REALLY HAVE ACCESS.
SO WE DON'T FEEL IT'LL BE A, A GOOD SELECTION, UH, FOR THE PARK.
UM, AND SO WHEN WE DID THAT SURVEY WITH THE, OR STUDY WITH THE COMMUNITY, THE SECOND OPTION WAS THIS PORTION HERE, WE SIT CLOSER TO THE, UH, TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD ENTRANCE, UH, WHAT IS IT? OLD BAYTOWN LITTLE THEATER AREA, I THINK IT WAS.
YEAH, SUBWAY SPOT UP TOP WAS BAYTOWN, CORRECT? YEAH.
AND SO, UH, THIS WAS THE SECOND CHOICE OF THE, UH, OF THE PROJECT.
UH, THE GOOD NEWS IS, IS THAT, UH, CORNELL WAS ABLE TO JUST KIND OF ROUGHLY PUT TOGETHER A PLAN, ANSWER WHAT HMM.
THAT SHOULD BE BAYWAY, NOT MARKET.
I WAS LIKE, WAIT, WE DON'T HAVE A MARKET STREET BACK THERE.
THAT'S TAKEN FROM THE, UH, NEAR MAP IMAGING.
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I WAS CONFUSED.BAYWAY BAYWAY, THAT'S BEHIND THE, UH, THE TORTILLA FACTORY.
NO, I KNEW, BUT I SAW MARKET AND I WAS LIKE, I DON'T KNOW WHAT MARKET, THE, THE THINGS, I WAS LIKE, WAIT A MINUTE, OKAY, THAT'S ALL I NEED.
BUT I CAME FROM THE, THERE'S CHEVRON IN, THERE'S INTERESTING.
BUT NONETHELESS, UH, WE, WE FEEL THAT WE CAN STILL ACCOMPLISH THE, UH, THE GOAL OF THE ORIGINAL, UH, PROJECT BY PROVIDING A RECREATIONAL SPACE, UH, INCLUDING A DOG PARK, UH, IN THIS SMALL PORTION OF LAND.
OBVIOUSLY IT'LL BE A LOT SMALLER SCALE, UH, WHICH WILL REDUCE THE COST, WHICH WILL ALLOW US TO STILL COME IN WITHIN BUDGET, UM, WITH EVEN WITH THE SURVEYING FROM THE OTHER, UM, THE OTHER PROPERTY AND ALL THAT.
SO MAYBE WE'LL ALSO, UM, BOOST UP RETAIL, OR NOT RETAIL, BUT RESTAURANT.
SOMETHING ON THAT RIGHT THERE.
TO BE HONEST, THE ROAD, IT WAS A REALLY CLOSE, IT WAS A REALLY CLOSE VOTE, IF YOU WILL, BETWEEN THIS SITE AND THE OTHER ONE.
THE OTHER ONES ADVANTAGES WAS THE SIZE AND THE, UH, THE ABILITY TO KEEP IT, UH, ADDING TO IT IN FUTURE YEARS AND FUTURE YEARS.
THIS SITE HERE WAS ONE THAT, THAT WE WERE JUST AS HAPPY WITH, UM, FOR THAT REASON.
AND, YOU KNOW, IT IS RIGHT UP FRONT.
IT'S, IT'S A LOT MORE WALKABLE FOR THOSE WHO HAVE DOGS.
UM, AND SO WE'RE, WE'RE HAPPY WITH IT.
UH, WE PLAN ON GOING, UH, OUT TO THE NATIONAL NIGHT OUT TO TALK TO THE RESIDENTS OVER THERE AND KIND OF INFORM THEM OF, OF THE REASONS THAT WERE CHANGING AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
AND, BUT NONETHELESS, JUST WANTED TO BRING THAT TO YOU.
UM, THAT THERE'S SOME OF US THAT WERE INVOLVED THAT COULD HAVE TOLD YOU THAT NORTH OF THAT CREEK WAS PRIVATE PROPERTY.
UM, THAT'S WHERE THE BEAVERS ALL END UP.
AND WE HAD ALWAYS COME IN FROM THE SOUTH SIDE 'CAUSE WE COULDN'T UTILIZE THE NORTH SIDE 'CAUSE IT WAS OF THE POOL.
OH REALLY? THE, UM, PARKING LOT.
DO WE OWN THAT? UH, SO A GREAT QUESTION.
SO BY OUR SURVEY ALWAYS TOO, BY OUR SURVEYOR, MY SURVEY, UH, WE, THE CITY QUIT CLAIMED THAT PROBABLY BACK IN, UH, I THINK 2008.
HOWEVER, THERE'S OTHER PARTIES WITHIN THE CITY SAY THEY DON'T KNOW.
AND SO RIGHT NOW THEY SAID THEY WON'T HAVE WORK RIGHT NOW.
SO WE DON'T, I JUST RECENTLY DID A SURVEY THAT THAT'S WHERE THE BAYTOWN THERE USED TO BE.
AND IT WAS QUICK CLAIM BECAUSE THAT'S WHEN THE CITY TRADED THE PROPERTY THERE IN TEXAS AVENUE.
THAT'S WHEN ALL THAT WENT OUT.
SO AS I SAID, THERE'S SOME PEOPLE, THAT'S WHY WE KEEP YOU AROUND MIKE.
THERE SOME PEOPLE IN THE CITY THAT SAY THAT WE DON'T WANT IT.
SO YEAH, THERE WAS SOME TITLE THERE, THERE WAS CHALLENGES WHEN THE BAYTOWN THEATER WERE THERE.
'CAUSE THERE WERE PEOPLE THAT SAID, Y'ALL ARE PROPERTY.
SO, UM, BUT AGAIN, THE GOOD NEWS ABOUT IT IS IT IS WALKABLE FOR THE, THE RESIDENTS IN THE AREA, ESPECIALLY THE ONES WITH DOGS AND EVERYTHING.
SO I THINK, I THINK IT'S A GOOD SITE.
UM, AND THEN THE SECOND ONE IS OUR DISC GOLF PROJECT.
UM, UH, AGAIN, THE GOAL FOR THAT ONE WAS JUST TO CREATE A, A CHAMPIONSHIP LEVEL DISC GOLF COURSE, SIMILAR TO THE ONE THAT, THAT EVERGREEN THAT WAS DUBBED EVER EVERGREEN FLYWAYS, UH, TO MAKE WAY FOR THE CURRENT GOLF COURSE.
UH, THE INITIAL SITE WAS THE 40 ACRES THAT DEFINED HERE.
UH, THAT'S JB LAFE AND MARKET.
THE, UH, THE ISSUES THAT KIND OF DROVE THE CHANGE OF THAT WAS THE UNEXPECTED TERRAIN THAT IT IS A LOT MORE, UH, TO IT THAN, THAN WE THOUGHT IT WOULD BE.
UH, THERE WAS ISSUES WITH, UH, NOT ONLY THAT, BUT LIKE ACCESSIBILITY.
UH, AND THEN WE ALSO HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO CREATE THAT SAME CHAMPIONSHIP LEVEL GOLF COURSE, DISC GOLF COURSE AT THE EVERGREEN PARK.
AND THAT'S NOT TO BE CONFUSED WITH THE GOLF COURSE SITE, IT'S THE, THE PARK AREA THAT'S ADJACENT TO IT, WHICH IS HIGHLIGHTED IN BLUE HERE.
UM, THE, UH, IF YOU LOOK, YOU CAN, YOU CAN SEE ON THE BOTTOM, ALMOST LEFT THE CLUBHOUSE.
SO BY PUTTING, BY MOVING THE GARAGES HERE, WE CAN UTILIZE THE PARKING LOT OF THE EXISTING COURSE.
WE CAN UTILIZE A LOT OF SHARED AMENITIES.
WELL, WE HAVE TO MOVE THE STORAGE BUILDING THAT WE OWN WAY OFF OF.
NO, WE'RE NOT MOVING ANYTHING.
OR WILL IT BE GO ALL GO AWAY? THE STORAGE UNITS? NO, THE STORAGE BUILDING WILL REMAIN UP THERE.
IT'LL BE UTILIZED BY THE GOLF COURSE.
THERE'LL BE A DISC GOLF, IDEALLY IT'D BE GOOD DISC GOLF COURSE OR HOLES AROUND THAT AREA.
BUT IT, WHICH IS REAL QUICK, THAT'S ACTUALLY, I THINK IT'S GONNA BE A GOOD THING BECAUSE CURRENTLY WE MAINTAIN, UH, THE PARK, THE AREAS BETWEEN THOSE TWO, THE STREETS THAT, THAT LEAD INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD MM-HMM
AND SO THIS, THIS GOLF COURSE WILL KIND OF EXTEND PAST THAT.
SO WE'LL BE ABLE TO MAINTAIN THE AREA DOWN THERE ON THE CORNER AROUND THE MAINTENANCE BARN TO A PARK STANDARD THAT, UH, WE, WE, WE GET COMPLAINTS FROM THE NEIGHBORS FROM TIME TO TIME BECAUSE THEY THINK IT'S THE PARK.
AND RIGHT NOW IT'S NOT, BUT IT WILL BE UNDER THIS CURRENT PLAN.
AND THAT HOW, HOW THAT'S ENOUGH TO MAKE THE CHAMPIONSHIP, ISN'T IT? IT'S REALLY, IT'S REALLY KIND OF COOL.
SO, UM, MAN, I LIKE THESE QUESTIONS.
UH, WE, WE ARE WORKING WITH THE ORIGINAL DISC GOLF, UH, COURSE DESIGNER, CHRIS VANDER, GRIFF, UH, WHO DID THE ORIGINAL JEN OR DID THE ORIGINAL, UM, EVERGREEN COURSE.
HE ALSO DID JENKINS, UH, AND DUKE KILL FOR THAT MATTER.
BUT, UM, AT FIRST HE WASN'T REALLY EXCITED ABOUT IT BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, HE WAS A
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LITTLE BIT OF HEARTBURN ABOUT LOSING EVERGREEN AND UH, JUST THAT HE DIDN'T REALLY WANNA INVEST.BUT THEN WHEN WE WENT OUT THERE AND WE SHOWED HIM AND SHOWED HIM THAT THE, THOSE HILLS EXISTED OVER THERE TOO, AND HE REALLY KIND OF WENT THROUGH AND HE LAID OUT THIS REALLY KIND OF NEAT COURSE THAT CAN BE PLAYED EITHER AS A RECREATIONAL COURSE OR AS MORE OF A COMPETITIVE COURSE.
SO IF THEY HAD A, UM, A BIG CHAMPIONSHIP TOURNAMENT, THEY COULD RECONFIGURE TO OFFER LIKE LONGER HOLES AND THEN ON A NORMAL DAY OUT THERE, IT COULD BE UTILIZED FOR MORE OF A RECREATIONAL ACTIVITY.
AND SO HE IS REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THAT.
UH, ANOTHER REALLY COOL THING IS IF YOU LOOK AT THE BOTTOM LEFT OF THE BLUE AREA THERE, THERE'S THAT LITTLE BIT OF, IT IS ALMOST LIKE A TRIANGLE THAT CONNECTS THE PARK, THE CURRENT PARK TO THE CLUBHOUSE.
THAT AREA IS GONNA BE RECONFIGURED TO BE ALMOST LIKE A DRIVING RANGE FOR DISC GOLF.
UH, KIND OF A AREA WITH TABLES, JADED TABLES TO KIND OF GO OUT AND PRACTICE YOUR THROWS.
IS THAT WHERE THE REAL BIG HILL IS ON THE OLD, IT USED TO BE THAT RIDICULOUS.
UM, BUT, BUT IT IS THAT AREA RIGHT AS YOU COME IN.
UH, AND, AND WHAT I WAS SAYING EARLIER IS THAT IT, IT, THIS SITE REALLY PROVIDES US AN OPPORTUNITY TO USE THE SHARED AMENITIES LIKE THE PARKING LOT, WHICH WOULD'VE BEEN A HUGE COST.
BUT NOT ONLY THAT, BUT THE RESTROOMS, THE, YOU KNOW, WHEN THE BAR AND GRILL OPENS AND I REALLY, I REALLY LIKE THIS IDEA THAT WAY.
IT'LL STILL, AND THERE'S A LOT OF DISC GOLFERS THAT ARE STILL EXTREMELY EXCITED ABOUT PLAYING UP THERE AND, UM, HAVING, OH, AND THE, UH, THE, THE LAST, UH, SHARED AMENITY WOULD BE GOLF CARTS OR GOLF CARTS RATHER.
SO YOU COULD, UH, IN THEORY YOU COULD GO PARK, PICK UP A GOLF CART, PLAY YOUR, YOUR 9, 12, 18 HOLES OF DISC GOLF AND UH, AND BE ABLE TO, TO GO ABOUT YOUR BUSINESS.
SO, UH, NOT ONLY THAT, BUT IT WILL, UM, IT'LL ALLOW YOU TO BE ABLE TO JUMP IN AT LUNCH REAL QUICK BY, DO SOMETHING REAL QUICK WITHOUT COMMITTING TO THE WHOLE DATA OF THAT, UH, CORNELL HAS SOME PRELIMINARY SKETCHES OF WHAT THAT LITTLE PRACTICE AREA WILL LOOK LIKE.
BUT, UM, BUT ANYWAY, THAT WAS THE, IS THIS FIT IN THE MONEY YOU ALREADY HAVE? YEAH, LIKE I SAID BEFORE, BOTH OF THESE TWO PROJECTS, UH, WILL BE ABLE HOPEFULLY, I MEAN, ARE PROJECTED TO BE ABLE TO BE COMPLETED WITHOUT ANY ADDITIONAL FUNDS, WHICH IS, OH, THE DRIVING RANGE IS GONNA HEAD NORTH.
I THINK IT'S IS THAT WHAT SOUTH SEE THE BUILDING TO THE LITTLE RED THINGS ARE HUTS? YEAH.
I WAS THINKING THOSE WERE ARROWS.
OH, THEY'RE GONNA GO THAT WAY.
SO IN THEORY, YOU'LL BE ABLE TO PICK UP A GOLF CART, DRIVE BACK THERE IF YOU WANT TO DO THAT FIRST AND THEN GO OFF TO THE COURSE.
IT'S, AND IT'S UH, IT WAS SOMETHING THAT KIND OF CAME TO US AND IT WAS A GOOD OPPORTUNITY.
AND WITH THE OTHER, THE TERRAIN ISSUES AND, AND THE OTHER ISSUES DOWN AT THE 44TH, UH, WE DECIDED TO, TO KIND OF SWITCH GEARS AND SEE WHAT THIS WOULD LOOK LIKE AND THAT'S WHAT WE WERE TALKING THROUGH WITH PARKS BOARD WITHIN IN THE PAPER.
SO WE JUST WANTED TO MAKE YOU GUYS AWARE, HAS THE GRASS ON THAT STRETCH STAYED IN GOOD SHAPE THROUGH ALL THE DIFFERENT WEATHER AND EVERYTHING BEHIND? YES.
AND WHEN, WHEN ARE Y'ALL GONNA BE ABLE TO START THAT SINCE YOU ALREADY HAVE THE MONEY? SO WE'RE FINAL STAGES OF LAID OUT.
THEY ACTUALLY DID THE THIS LAST WEEK.
AND UH, SO WE DO SOME DRAINAGE VERIFICATION.
WE HAVE A FEW OF THOSE SPOTS IN THAT AREA.
Y'ALL JUST NEED SOME, YOU GO ALL KIND OF TOURNAMENTS OUT THERE.
WE WERE EXCITED OUT BEST FAR, YOU HAVE THE MONEY ALREADY.
I HAD MENTIONED THE, THE POSSIBILITY THAT THE SEVERAL MEMBERS OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD, THEY WERE STATIC.
THEY, THEY WERE STATIC ABOUT ONE BECAUSE IT'S GONNA GUARANTEE THEM THAT WILL ALWAYS BE PARKING GUARANTEE TO THEM ALREADY.
BUT THEY WERE ECSTATIC ABOUT, HAD OPPORTUNITY AND THEN AGAIN, WITHOUT COMMITTING ANYTHING, SAYING, WELL THERE'S ALSO POSSIBILITY THEY'RE GONNA TIE IT INTO THE EXISTING GOLF COURSE PARKING LOT.
'CAUSE THAT, THAT'S ONE THING TO ASK WHERE WAS EVERYBODY GONNA PARK? WE'RE TRYING TO TIE IT IN, MAKE IT, AND THEY WERE ECSTATIC.
AND ANOTHER BENEFIT TOO THAT WE TALKED ABOUT WAS, YOU KNOW, FOR ONE TO LOOK AT CAR PATHS THROUGHOUT THIS AREA, YOU KNOW, THAT DOESN'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO JUST BE FOR ALL PARTS.
YOU BE ABLE TO TRAVEL ALONG THAT AND UH, EVEN POSSIBLY INCORPORATING SOME OF THE OTHER AREAS, UM, ON THE BACK END.
UM, EVENTUALLY, YOU KNOW, THAT'S, YOU KNOW, A POSSIBILITY.
UM, LOTS OF THINGS I THINK THAT WE CAN DO AND MAXIMIZE, UH, WHAT WE HAVE
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OUT THERE.JUST A, JUST AN AWARENESS PIECE.
SO SHUFFLING AND MAKING IT WORK.
ALRIGHT, IS THAT IT? ONE MORE THING, ONE MORE PAPER.
DON'T YOU SEE? SO WE, UH, TALKING EARLIER ABOUT THE GENERAL OBLIGATION BONDS AND KIND OF HOW WE'RE GONNA APPROACH THAT AND, UM, I'VE GONE THROUGH THIS BEFORE, UM, IN OTHER CITIES, BUT IT IS A, UH, IT IS A LONG AND, UH, VERY SPECIFIC PROCESS.
AND SO WHAT WE WANT TO DO IS TO MAKE SURE THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT WE INCLUDE THIS COMMITTEE AND ESPECIALLY IN THE PRELIMINARY PHASES BECAUSE THERE'S GONNA BE A LOT OF PLANNING THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE.
THERE'S GONNA BE A LOT OF COORDINATION.
UM, COUNCIL IS ONLY MEETING ONCE A MONTH FOR PROBABLY THE NEXT, UM, UH, FEW MONTHS.
AND UH, THIS IS NOT NECESSARILY SOMETHING THAT'S PREPARED SPECIFICALLY FOR US.
THIS IS JUST KIND OF A GENERAL OVERVIEW OF UM, KIND OF HOW THAT PROCESS WORKS.
AND SO, UM, YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT, UH, KIND OF THE STEPS, OBVIOUSLY WE'LL NEED TO, WE BE PRETTY HEAVILY ON ITEM THREE A WITH THIS COMMITTEE.
UM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GONNA NEED TO IDENTIFY THE POTENTIAL PROJECTS THAT WILL BE INCLUDED IN THE BOND PACKAGE, UH, SET UP THE CATEGORIES, UM, UH, THERE'S ALL SORTS OF DIFFERENT WAYS YOU CAN DO THAT.
UM, WHAT I'M USED TO AND WHAT MY PREFERENCE TYPICALLY IS, IS TO HAVE SPECIFIC CATEGORIES OF PROJECTS THAT HAVE THEIR OWN ITEM ON THE BALLOT.
THAT WAY IF, UH, THE PUBLIC FEELS STRONGLY ABOUT ONE VERSUS ANOTHER, UM, YOU KNOW, THEIR VOTE CAN REFLECT THAT ACROSS THE DIFFERENT CATEGORIES.
BECAUSE ISN'T IT TRUE IF, IF ONE OF THEM DOESN'T PASS, IT CAN'T GO BACK ON THE BALLOT FOR ON YEARS.
UM, AND YOU CAN'T, UH, LIKE YOU COULDN'T TURN AROUND AND ISSUE COS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT FOR IT.
SO THAT'S ANOTHER PIECE THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, IF THERE ARE THINGS THAT MIGHT BE POLARIZING OR CONTROVERSIAL, IF, UH, IT GOES DOWN, THEN THE OTHER, UM, THE OTHER CATEGORY STAND ON THEIR OWN MERIT.
UM, BUT WE'LL WANT TO COORDINATE WITH YOU ALL.
UM, AND THERE'S GONNA BE SOME, OBVIOUSLY SOME DECISIONS.
CHANCES ARE WE'LL PROBABLY WANT TO GET A BOND COMMITTEE IN PLACE, UM, MADE UP OF, UH, MAYBE SOME OF YOU ALL.
BUT, UH, DEFINITELY SOME STAKEHOLDERS, UH, FROM THE COMMUNITY.
UM, THERE'S GONNA BE A LOT OF, UH, OPPORTUNITY FOR THAT.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, UM, WE AS STAFF, AND I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT EQUATES TO YOU ALL AS ELECTED OFFICIALS, SO I'M NOT GONNA, I'M NOT GONNA UH, UM, I GUESS APPROACH THAT TOO STRONGLY AT THIS POINT.
BUT I KNOW FOR STAFF WE CANNOT QUOTE UNQUOTE PROMOTE WE CAN PROVIDE INFORMATION, WE CAN PREPARE THE, UH, THE BOND PACKAGE THAT MAKES THE MOST SENSE, BUT WE WILL NOT BE IN A POSITION TO PROMOTE THIS.
UM, SO YEAH, AND I, LIKE I SAID, I DON'T REMEMBER HOW THAT, UM, COVERS YOU ALL AS ELECTED OFFICIALS, BUT THAT'S PART OF THE, UM, UH, PART OF THE REASON FOR HAVING A COMMITTEE IS THAT THEY CAN ENGAGE THE PUBLIC, UM, A LITTLE BIT, UH, UH, A LITTLE BIT MORE IN DEPTH THAN, THAN WE COULD.
SO JUST WANTED YOU ALL TO SEE THIS.
UH, FRANK, DID YOU WANT TO ADD ANYTHING? UM, TO THAT, THIS POINT? NO, THE TIMELINE IS FAIRLY TIGHT.
WE, WE DO NEED TO, EVEN THOUGH IT'S A YEAR, ONE YEAR OUT, IT, UH, THERE'S LOT OF WE'LL SELECTED A CONSULTANT TO HELP US THROUGH THIS.
UM, LOOKING TO GET THEM STARTED.
WE'LL, UH, FOLLOW CONTRACT NOVEMBER HOPEFULLY, UM, WE'LL GET SOME PRELIMINARY WORK, UM, GOING IN A SEPARATE, UM, SMALLER CONTRACT, BUT THE LARGER PIECE WILL BE BROUGHT TO THE FULL COUNCIL.
BUT WE'LL START ENGAGING YOU ALL, UM, UH, PROBABLY SOONER.
AND AGAIN, IT'S, IT'S JUST THE CYCLE BECAUSE THE CITY USED TO TO RELY HEAVILY GEO BONDS AND THEN THEY GOT AWAY FROM IT.
AND THEN WE'RE GOING BACK TO IT.
AND, AND THEN AGAIN, IT'S A WAY THAT IT'S, AS A CITY, AS A COUNCIL, WE, WE PROVIDE THE
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SERVICES AND EFFORTS THAT THE CITIZENS WANT.SO THEY GO OUT AND VOTE FOR IT.
THEY WANT, THEY UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S POTENTIALLY GONNA BE TAX INCREASES THAT ALWAYS EQUATE THAT WAY.
SOMETIMES THEY'RE SAVINGS AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO RAISE THE TAXES, BUT AT LEAST THEY ALLOW YOU THE ABILITY THAT IF YOU HAVE TO, YOU CAN RAISE TAXES TO PAY FOR THOSE PROJECTS.
'CAUSE WE GOT IN THE CITY, GOT INTO POSITION THAT WE PASSED THE GO AND IT'D BE FIVE, 10 YEARS BEFORE THAT MONEY WAS BEING SPENT.
SO IT'S LIKE THOSE PROJECTS AND FUNDING JUST SITTING THERE AND IT'S LIKE, GET AWAY FROM THAT AT TIMES WHERE I DON'T WANNA SAY GREAT, BUT TIMES WERE NOT BAD.
SO THERE WAS A LOT OF CASH FLOW, SO THEY WERE CASH FUNDING INSTEAD OF GOING TO THE TAXPAYERS.
WE DO FREE YOU ON HAVING FIVE YEARS WORTH OF PROJECTS IN THERE.
OF COURSE WE'LL HAVE TO WORK WITH FINANCE, UM, DEPARTMENT, FINANCE COMMITTEE AND THE FINANCIAL ADVISOR TO DETERMINE, KNOW, CAPACITY.
CAPACITY AND YOU TO NEGOTIATE, KNOW WE WANT TO USE ALL THE CAPACITY OR BASED ON PROJECTS.
THERE'S A LOT OF WORK WHERE WE RELY ON YOU AS WELL, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE SOMETIMES WE ASK THE QUESTION, OKAY, WE GOT X MILLIONS OF DOLLARS WORTH OF NEEDS, HOW MUCH CAN YOU DO A YEAR? AND SO FAR YOU'VE BEEN PRETTY HONEST.
JUST LIKE, I CAN'T DO THAT MUCH
SO WE COULD APPROVE A HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS WORTH OF PROJECTS, BUT YOU CAN'T GET DONE.
IS THAT IT, BRO? YOU, I THINK WE'VE COVERED EVERYTHING ON THE AGENDA.
SO 4 42, WE CAN CLOSE OUT THIS CIP MEETING FORWARD TO THE NEXT ROUND SINCE WE GO INTO NEXT YEAR, WE.