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YET.YEAH, I DIDN'T REALIZE IT UNTIL RIGHT NOW.
[ CITY OF BAYTOWN NOTICE OF MEETING BAYTOWN POLICE ADVISORY COMMITTEE TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER 24, 2024 6:00 P.M. COUNCIL CHAMBER, CITY HALL 2401 MARKET STREET, BAYTOWN, TEXAS 77520 AGENDA CALL TO ORDER AND ANNOUNCEMENT OF QUORUM ]
WE WILL NOW CALL THE BAYTOWN POLICE ADVISORY COMMITTEE MEETING TO ORDER.TODAY IS TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER 24TH, 2024.
IT IS EXACTLY SIX ZERO 4:00 PM UM, IN THIS CITY.
COUNCIL CHAMBERS IN CITY HALL AT THE ADDRESS IS 24 0 1 MARKET STREET, BAYTOWN, TEXAS 7 7 5 2 0.
UM, AND WE ARE CALLING TO ORDER AN ANNOUNCEMENT OF QUORUM.
UM, SO FIRST ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS CITIZEN COMMENTS.
WE HAVE NO ONE SIGNED UP FOR CITIZEN COMMENTS.
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ON THE AGENDA IS CONSIDERATION OF APPROVING THE MINUTES OF THE BAYTOWN POLICE ADVISORY COMMITTEE MEETING HELD ON AUGUST 27TH, 2024.SO WE HAVE A FIRST AND A SECOND.
AND IT LOOKS LIKE THE AYES HAVE IT
THIS IS WHERE WE RECEIVE SUCH INPUT CONCERNING POLICE OUTREACH, COMMUNITY POLICING, OFFICER TRAINING, AS WELL AS POLICE POLICIES AND PROCEDURES FROM US.
HAVE ANY OF US RECEIVED ANYTHING FROM ANY OF OUR CONSTITUENTS WITHIN OUR SPACES OR AREAS? NO.
I THAT THEY WANNA SHARE? NOTHING AS OF YET.
[a. Discuss any tasks and processes for future meetings.]
UM, THE NEXT ITEM IS DISCUSSION.DISCUSS ANY TASKS AND PROCESSES FOR FUTURE MEETINGS.
SO I THINK THIS IS THE PART RIGHT HERE WHERE I DEFINITELY WANT US TO TRY TO IDENTIFY THE THINGS THAT WE WANNA TALK ABOUT MOVING FORWARD.
UM, I HAVE PUT IN MY LETTER OF RESIGNATION, WHICH MEANS THAT NOVEMBER, WE'LL PROBABLY, I THINK NOVEMBER IS WHEN I'LL HAVE MY FOUR YEAR, 'CAUSE I STARTED, I STARTED BAYTOWN POLICE ADVISORY COMMITTEE, UM, IN DECEMBER OF 2020.
AND SO THAT WOULD BE MY, THE END OF MY FOUR YEAR.
UM, SO THAT WOULD BE MY, MY END OF IT.
SO I, I DEFINITELY WANNA TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT SOME OF THE STUFF THAT WE'VE DONE OVER THE PAST FOUR YEARS AND SOME OF THE STUFF THAT WE, WE, WE MAY NEED TO REVISIT BECAUSE WE HAVE BRAND NEW PEOPLE ON THIS COMMITTEE.
AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT, THAT THE, THE NEW PEOPLE KNOW WHAT WE'VE ALREADY DONE AT THIS POINT.
UH, THE ONLY PEOPLE THAT WERE THE SAME WAS RICHARD AND MYSELF.
AND SO I, I DEFINITELY, I HAVE MY WHOLE ENTIRE BIG FOLDER HERE.
SO I'D LIKE TO SEE IF WE CAN SET ASIDE SOME TIME TO TALK ABOUT WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE NEXT TIME.
SO THAT COULD LOOK AT THE, WE COULD LOOK AT THE BUCKETS.
WE COULD LOOK AT THINGS THAT WE'VE ALREADY PRESENTED TO CITY COUNCIL BEFORE, UH, AS WELL AS MAYBE A FUTURE TRAINING WITH JAMIE.
'CAUSE WE TALKED ABOUT DOING A FUTURE TRAINING WITH JAMIE.
BUT I THINK THAT EVERYTHING BECAME PAUSED WHENEVER WE DIDN'T KNOW HOW WE WERE GONNA MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS COMMITTEE.
AND SO, ASSUMING EVERYTHING'S THE SAME BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T HEARD ANYTHING, I'M JUST GONNA PUSH FORWARD SO THAT WE CAN, SO WHENEVER I LEAVE, IT'S IN GOOD STANDING.
LIKE IT'S LEFT TO WHEREVER, YOU KNOW, WHOEVER TAKES OVER NEXT.
AND I THINK IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT THAT WE LOOK TO SEE WHO IS GONNA TAKE MY PLACE.
UH, AND SO WE MAYBE SHOULD DO ELECTIONS BEFORE THEN.
BUT WE SHOULD DO ELECTIONS BEFORE I LEAVE.
SO THEN I COULD JUST PASS OVER THE GAVEL.
AND AT THAT POINT, THE WHOLE ENTIRE FOLDER
'CAUSE I THINK THAT THERE'S A LOT OF FRUIT AND I THINK THERE'S A LOT THAT CAN STILL BE DONE WITH THIS COUNCIL, ESPECIALLY WITH NEW MEMBERS.
FRESH, FRESH PEOPLE, FRESH PERSPECTIVE.
SO I'M HOPING THAT THAT IS SOMETHING, IF YOU CAN, I THINK I GAVE YOU A LOT OF TASKS AND PROCESSES FOR THE NEXT MEETING, BUT I KNOW I HAVE TO SAY 'EM BECAUSE WE CAN'T TALK ABOUT 'EM TODAY BECAUSE IT WASN'T ON THIS AGENDA.
BUT I DEFINITELY WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT ALL OF THE STUFF THAT I JUST SAID, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE CAN TALK ABOUT NEXT, NEXT MEETING.
SO THE TA UM, THE BUCKETS, THE TRAINING, JUST GOING OVER EVERYTHING YOU'VE ACCOMPLISHED AND YOUR FUTURE GOALS MM-HMM
CAN BE ADDED TO THE NEXT AGENDA.
AND THEN ANY ANSWER, ANY QUESTIONS THAT THEY MAY HAVE? ANY, ANYTHING ELSE THAT Y'ALL WANT TO ADD? I DON'T THINK SO.
I THINK BECAUSE I'M THE NEW PERSON, UH, ONE OF THE NEW INDIVIDUALS MM-HMM
WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT PASSING THE GAVEL, AND YOU MENTIONED RICHARD, SO YOURSELF AND RICHARD WERE INITIALLY YEAH, WE STARTED DECEMBER, 2020.
SO, SO LOOKING FORWARD ON YOUR EXIT, DO WE SEE, UH, AND, AND, AND I THINK YOU JUST MENTIONED THAT BUCKET LIST, BUT DO WE SEE A, A STRATEGIC PLAN MM.
UH, OF, OF OPERATION AND THE INVOLVEMENT AND YOUR, YOUR PERSPECTIVE ON WHERE WE SHOULD DRIVE EVEN FURTHER? RIGHT.
I, I DEFINITELY, I ADD STRATEGIC PLAN.
UM, BECAUSE I THINK THAT IF IT'S
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SOMETHING THAT WE CAN LOOK AT WHAT WE'VE DONE IN THE PAST, I THINK, YOU KNOW, ORGANICALLY A STRATEGIC PLAN COULD COME FROM IT.BUT I, I DON'T WANNA BE THE PERSON THAT DRIVES THAT STRATEGIC PLAN.
I WANNA OFFER ANY KIND OF GUIDANCE FOR THE STRATEGIC PLAN FOR SURE.
BASED ON LIKE, PAST, PAST THINGS THAT WE'VE COMPLETED AND STUFF THAT WE NEED TO CONTINUE TO WORK MOVING FORWARD.
IS THAT, IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE THINKING? YES, ABSOLUTELY.
THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I'M ABS YEAH, FOR SURE.
AND THIS STUFF THAT WE HAVEN'T DONE YET, RIGHT? THERE WAS A LOT OF STUFF THAT WE HAD IN OUR BUCKETS THAT WE, WE DIDN'T GET TO GET TO.
YOU KNOW, WE HAD A BRAND NEW POLICE CHIEF.
YOU KNOW, THERE'S SO MANY DIFFERENT THINGS THAT HAVE HAPPENED SINCE THEN IN THE PAST FOUR YEARS.
BUT I THINK THERE'S A LOT MORE FRUITFUL STUFF THAT CAN COME FROM THIS COMMITTEE.
UM, IT'S JUST THAT I THINK THAT WE'VE JUST BEEN LAYING LOW BECAUSE WE JUST HAVEN'T HAD ANY IDEA OF WHAT WAS, AND I JUST DON'T THINK WE NEED TO LAY LOW ANYMORE.
I THINK WE JUST NEED TO MAKE A, MAKE A DECISION ON HOW IT'S GOING TO LOOK MOVING FORWARD.
DEFINITELY DON'T WANT IT TO DIE.
AND ON THIS ITEM, YOU CAN DISCUSS ANY FUTURE PLANS, GOALS, THINGS YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE IN THE NEXT MEETING AND NEW PROCESSES MOVING FORWARD.
IF YOU'D LIKE TO TAKE THE TIME TO OPEN.
WE, WE HAVE TO PUT SOMETHING DOWN AND ASSIGN PEOPLE TO IT AND DO IT.
BECAUSE IF NOT, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE HAVE EMPTY ROOMS, I THINK ATTENDANCE IS A GOOD THING.
I THINK, UM, HOW, YOU KNOW, HOW DO YOU, HOW DO WE PUBLICLY GET PEOPLE TO COME FEEL COMFORTABLE COMING? UM, YOU KNOW, RICHARD WAS REALLY BIG ABOUT WANTING TO GO INTO THE APARTMENT COMPLEXES.
WE DID IT ONCE, IT DIDN'T WORK.
UM, AND THEN I THINK WE HAD TIME.
HE HAD A HARD TIME TRYING TO GET INTO SOME APARTMENT COMPLEXES AS WELL.
UM, SO I JUST THINK JUST LOOKING AT BEST PRACTICES IN TERMS OF WHAT WORKS ALREADY WITHIN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
WITH YOUR COFFEE, WITH A CO, IS IT COFFEE WITH A COP? MM-HMM
I DON'T LIKE CALLING YOU COPS BECAUSE SOMEONE TOLD ME IT WAS NOT NICE, SO I DON'T CALL.
I WAS JUST LIKE, WAIT, MY UNCLE WAS A POLICE OFFICER.
SO I JUST, UM, SO THOSE TYPES OF THINGS.
AND SO WHAT, WHAT WOULD WORK BEST? BECAUSE THE ONE THING IN THE PAST FOUR YEARS THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE WAS A LOT OF ATTENDANCE.
AND IT WAS ALWAYS IMPORTANT TO ME TO HAVE EVERYTHING RECORDED IN CASE ANYBODY WANTED TO GO BACK AND HEAR WHAT WE WERE DISCUSSING AND THE QUESTIONS THAT WE WERE ASKING BPD, UM, BEFORE AND AFTER THE NEW ARRIVAL OF Y NEW POLICE CHIEF OF OUR NEW POLICE CHIEF.
SO, UM, THAT'S DEFINITELY I, FROM MY TIME.
THE AUDIENCE HAVE BEEN NONE TO ONE.
SO, SO HAS IT BEEN LOOKED AT WHERE THE PANEL, WE AS THOSE THAT SIT ON ON THE PANEL, UH, ARE ENCOURAGED TO TALK TO OUR NEIGHBORS ABOUT, YOU KNOW, AT LEAST FINDING ONE OR TWO OTHER FAMILIES IN THE NEIGHBORS HOOD THAT WE RESIDE IN AND HAVE THEM COME JUST TO, TO LISTEN.
AND TO HEAR AND MAYBE HAVE SOME INPUT.
AND THAT COULD BE A STARTING POINT.
I THINK THAT'S A WONDERFUL IDEA.
YOU KNOW, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S NEVER BEEN IN MENTIONED AT ALL, ACTUALLY.
I LIKE WE SHOULD BE THAT'S A VERY GOOD IDEA.
AT LEAST TRYING TO, FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE, ENCOURAGING THOSE TO JUST COME AND LISTEN.
SO I THINK OUR BIGGEST, I THINK OUR BIGGEST ONE HAPPENED IN 20.
WE HAD IT AT LEE COLLEGE, AND I WANNA SAY IT WAS IN 22, AND WE HAD IT IN JU JUNE AT LEE COLLEGE.
WE HAD LIKE SEVERAL 13 PEOPLE SHOW UP DURING THAT TIME.
IT WAS BEFORE A NEW POLICE CHIEF.
HOW LONG HAS HE BEEN HERE? HE'S, HE'S RIGHT AT ABOUT THREE YEARS.
I THOUGHT HE WAS HERE FOR THAT.
'CAUSE I, I'M REMEMBERING TALKING ABOUT IT.
AND I WAS, THIS IS MY, I'M GOING INTO MY SECOND YEAR, BUT MAYBE, YEAH, MAYBE HE WAS HERE.
BECAUSE HE WAS EXCITED ABOUT IT.
I KNOW IT HAPPENED AFTER I CAME IN.
NO, IT CAME, THAT HAPPENED BEFORE I CAME IN.
WELL I WILL BE PROMOTING IT WITH OCTOBER 17TH AND EVERYONE HERE IS INVITED.
WE ARE HAVING A COFFEE WITH A COP.
AND, UH, I'M GONNA BE PROMOTING IT AT THAT EVENT.
AND WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE SHOW UP TO THE COFFEE WITH THE COPS.
SO I'M PRAYING WE, UH, WE CAN GET SOME PEOPLE TO ROLL OVER.
AND THE OTHER THING TOO IS TUESDAY NIGHT IS, UH, NATIONAL NIGHT OUT.
IS IT THIS UPCOMING TUESDAY? RICHARD.
RICHARD AND I TALKED ABOUT BEING THERE.
I REMEMBER WE TALKED ABOUT BEING THERE.
I'M GONNA BE THERE ANYWAY WITH, UH, WELL, I DO HAVE A TABLE SET UP FOR BPAC, SO IF ANYBODY WANTS TO COME AND SIT AT THE TABLE, WE HAVE ONE AVAILABLE.
AND, UH, I'LL BE AT BOTH TABLES.
I HAD JUST FOUND OUT FROM, UH, ELLA HERE THAT WE HAVE, UH, A SIGN, A BPAC.
DOESN'T RICHARD HAVE, DID RICHARD HAVE A BANNER?
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I, HE SAID HE HAD ONE.YEAH, WE WERE, WHO HAS CONTACT WITH HIS WIFE? WE WERE, THAT'S WHAT WE WERE TRYING TO, THEY WERE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT, I DON'T HAVE LISA'S NUMBER.
I KNOW WHERE THEY LIVE OR I KNOW WHERE SHE LIVES.
BUT EVEN HIS, HIS PHONE NUMBER, I'M SURE THEY STILL HAVE HIS PHONE.
I MEAN, I'M NOT GONNA ASSUME THAT, BUT IF YOU COULD, IF YOU, I'M ASSUMING SOMEONE HAD CONTACT WITH HER.
'CAUSE SHE WAS AT OUR LAST BPAC MEETING, SO WHOMEVER HAD CONTACT WITH HER, UM, I CAN FIND FOR THAT LAST BPAC C MEETING CANICE BOWL WITH THEM.
I KNOW THAT HE KNOWS SOMEBODY.
HE DOES A WAY TO CONTACT, I THOUGHT IT WAS THE, THE PARENTS.
IF YOU SEE HER OUT, YOU WANT US TO DROP BY? I'M FIND HER STILL.
HE USED TO BE NEIGHBORS IN PINEHURST.
LIKE I SAID, I KNOW WHERE THE HOUSE IS.
IF THAT'S LAST, IF SOMEONE CAN CON CONTACT HER, LET HER KNOW THAT HE'S GONNA SWING BY, THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL.
DO YOU KNOW HOW TO GET AHOLD OF HIM OR YOU? I, I'M GONNA GET WITH CORPORAL CANICE AND OKAY.
I'M SURE HE CAN GET IT FOR ME.
AND IF YOU NEED ANYTHING, GO THROUGH
YOU CAN GET MY NUMBER FROM HIM.
IF YOU NEED HER, I CAN GIVE IT TO YOU.
EVERYBODY HAS EVERYBODY'S NUMBER.
SO SOME OF THE STUFF THAT WE TALKED ABOUT BACK THEN, UM, THE BUCKETS WE WERE SPECIFICALLY TALKING ABOUT, THIS IS FROM 22 JANUARY 13TH, 2022, WHEN WE DID A COMMITTEE REPORT.
UH, WE TALKED ABOUT MENTAL ILLNESS, WHICH WE FEEL LIKE WE ADDRESSED WITH THE STICKERS AND WITH THE, UM, UH, THE TRAINING WITH MENTAL HEALTH.
THAT WAS IN, IN COLLABORATION WITH, UH, HARRIS COUNTY HEALTH.
AND SO, UH, WE WERE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THAT PART OF IT.
THE OTHER PART WAS TRANSPARENCY AND ACCOUNTABILITY.
POSITIVE ENGAGEMENTS WAS ANOTHER ONE.
AND THEN TRAINING AND DEVELOPMENT.
SO THOSE ARE SOME OF THE THREE, THE FOUR BUCKETS THAT WE LOOKED AT.
UM, THE RECENT ACTIVITIES THAT WE DID DURING THAT TIME.
AND THE, AND THE ONE BIG THING THAT WE HAD WAS THE DECAL WAS FINALIZED, AND THAT'S WHEN THE DECAL WAS CREATED BACK IN 2022.
BUT SINCE THEN, WE'VE HAD A LOT OF LIKE NEW PEOPLE COME THROUGH AND WE HAVEN'T REALLY GOTTEN BACK TO THE BUCKETS.
BUT IF YOU WANNA GO BACK ALL THE WAY TO 2020, SOME OF THOSE BUCKETS, UM, WE HAVE, UH, UNDERNEATH EACH OF THOSE BUCKETS, WE HAVE AREAS OF, OF CONCERNS THAT WE WANTED TO ADDRESS.
AND SO WHAT WE COULD DO IS WE COULD LOOK OVER SOME OF THOSE AREAS OF CONCERNS THAT WE HAD IN 2020 TO SEE WHAT, WHAT, WHICH ARE NO LONGER AREAS OF CONCERNS, AND WHICH ONES DO WE STILL NEED TO ADDRESS.
UH, BECAUSE THAT WAS INITIALLY WHAT WE CREATED, UM, WHEN WE FIRST STARTED, UH, THIS COMMITTEE.
SO THAT COULD BE ANOTHER AREA THAT WE CAN TALK ABOUT.
AND FROM THAT, I THINK THAT A STRATEGIC PLAN COULD BE CREATED IN TERMS OF MOVING FORWARD.
OKAY, NOW WE HAVE THESE AREAS OF CONCERN THAT HAVE NOT BEEN ADDRESSED, AND HOW ARE WE GOING TO WORK AS A COMMITTEE TO ADDRESS THEM ONE AND TWO, HOW CAN WE GET PEOPLE TO COME HERE TO SPEAK MORE TO US IN TERMS OF OTHER AREAS OF CONCERN THAT WE MAY NOT KNOW.
BECAUSE THIS WAS BASED OFF WHAT WE HAD HEARD FROM THE PUBLIC.
WELL, I MEAN, IT'S FOUR YEARS LATER, BRAND NEW POLICE CHIEF.
THERE COULD BE DIFFERENT AREAS OF CONCERNS AND OR THINGS HAVE GOTTEN SO MUCH BETTER THAT WE'RE JUST HERE TO, YOU KNOW, BE A, IN PARTNERSHIP WITH OUR, YOU KNOW, OUR CONSTITUENTS.
AND SO I THINK THAT COULD BE A PIECE OF IT AS WELL.
WHAT DO Y'ALL THINK? I MEAN, I HAVE A WHOLE ENTIRE BOOK.
NO, I THINK, LIKE, I MEAN, I KEPT EVERYTHING, EVERYTHING.
I LIKE THE AREAS OF CONCERNS AND, UH, AND, AND REALLY IF WE CAN TRY AND, AND IDENTIFY, AS YOU MENTIONED, WHAT WAS ACCOMPLISHED, WHAT STILL NEEDS TO BE WORKED AND LOOKED AT, AND THEN GIVE SOME TYPE OF, UH, STATISTICS ON WHAT WAS ACCOMPLISHED, UH, WITHIN THOSE YEARS YEAH.
UM, 'CAUSE I MEAN, I JUST, AND THESE ARE THE NOTES THAT I TOOK DURING THAT TIME.
SO I HAVE EVERYTHING AND THEN I COULD PASS IT ON TO WHOEVER WANTS TO KEEP IT, JUST BECAUSE I THINK IT'S ALWAYS IMPORTANT TO HAVE HISTORICAL CONTEXT WHENEVER YOU HAVE THESE TYPES OF THINGS.
BECAUSE OB OBVIOUSLY HISTORY REPEATS ITSELF AND WE DON'T WANNA REPEAT OURSELVES.
SO, SO I'M HOPING THAT COME NOVEMBER WE CAN ALREADY HAVE, IF NOT IN OCTOBER, WE CAN ALREADY HAVE, UM, THE PASSING OF THE CHAIR, LIKE HAVE THE ELECTIONS AND SEE, YOU KNOW, WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE MOVING FORWARD.
SO THAT COME DECEMBER, THE NEW CHAIR'S ALREADY IN PLACE AND THE VICE CHAIR'S IN PLACE, AND WE CAN SEE WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE WITH THE, I BELIEVE THERE'S GONNA BE A FEW APPOINTMENTS COMING UP.
UM, SO WE'LL LOOK AT THAT TO MAKE SURE EVERYTHING'S COOL BEFORE THEN.
NOW I UNDERSTAND THAT IF YOU HAVE TO DO THAT AFTER YOU GET AN APPOINTMENT FOR ME, 'CAUSE I KNOW YOU HAVE TO, TO GO BACK TO MY COUNSEL PERSON, UM, THEN THAT'S FINE TOO.
BUT IT'S EASIER IF LIKE, I'M HERE AND I CAN JUST PASS IT ALONG.
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I CAN PUT IT IN A BINDER.I, I, I DON'T KNOW, I THINK A LONG TIME AGO BEFORE YOU CAME, WE HAD TO DO ELECTIONS.
BUT AS VICE CHAIR, I COULD GIVE IT TO HIM AND THEN HE CAN, IF HE DECIDES TO DO CHAIR, IF HE IS ELECTED AS CHAIR OR IF WHOEVER, HE COULD ALWAYS BE THE PERSON IF THAT'S WHAT Y'ALL DECIDE TO DO.
I JUST DON'T WANNA SEE IT DIE DOWN.
'CAUSE I FEEL LIKE WE JUST NEED TO GET OUR LEGS.
AND ONCE WE GET OUR LEGS, WE'LL WE, WE'LL WE'LL BE ABLE TO CONTINUE ON.
AND, AND, AND, AND JUST FOR THE RECORD, I DID NOT WANT TO LEAVE THE ONLY WELL, I, I THOUGHT ABOUT LEAVING, BUT THE ONLY REASON WHY I DIDN'T WAS BECAUSE OF RICHARD.
AND BECAUSE RICHARD'S NO LONGER HERE.
I THINK, I THINK IT'S TIME FOR ME TO GO.
REASON WHY I STAYED, TO BE HONEST.
SO ONCE WE GET OUR LEGS, WILL YOU COME BACK AND
I'M TALKING ABOUT AS, AS PART JUST SHOWING UP AND YEAH.
EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE AND PUTTING YOUR 2 CENTS IN.
'CAUSE WE'D LIKE TO HAVE IT, ESPECIALLY ONCE WE DO GET OUR LEGS AND WE GET PEOPLE HERE.
BECAUSE, UH, I'M NOT GIVING UP YET, THAT'S FOR SURE.
I MEAN, I CAN, I CAN TALK REALLY FAST IN THREE MINUTES.
I THINK I HAVE, I'VE HAD SOME RECORD, I'VE HAD SOME RECORD MEETINGS,
BUT ASIDE FROM THAT, UM, ANY, ANYTHING ELSE THAT WE WANT TO LOOK AT IN TERMS OF TASKS AND PROCESSES FOR FUTURE MEETINGS? I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING.
IT'S JUST REALLY JUST TRYING TO COME TOGETHER AND, AND FIGURE OUT WHAT, YOU KNOW, WHAT DIRECTION IS THE BEST DIRECTION MOVING FORWARD.
I WORK DOWN THE STREET AT THE COLLEGE.
[a. Receive a report and discuss the status of police outreach, community policing, officer training and policies and procedures.]
NEXT WE RECEIVE A REPORT AND DISCUSS THE STATUS OF THE POLICE OUTREACH, COMMUNITY PEACE POLICING, UH, OFFICER TRAINING AND POLICIES, PROCEDURES FROM THE POLICE CHIEF.I'VE TURNED THIS THING OFF AND ON.
YOU CAN SORT OF TOUCH IT AND WIPE SEVERAL TIMES.
UH, UH, ASSISTANT CHIEF DAVID ALFORD, UH, SITTING IN FOR CHIEF STRINGER, HE, THERE WERE THREE DIFFERENT MEETINGS THAT CONFLICTED TONIGHT.
AND SO I'M HERE AND, UH, AS I SPOKE WITH THE GENTLEMAN EARLIER, WE WERE HERE WITH THE, THE INITIAL, UH, PPAC WHEN IT HAD DIFFERENT NAMES AND DIFFERENT STRUCTURE.
AND SO I THINK ONE OF THE BIGGEST THINGS THAT HAS COME TOGETHER THAT HAS BENEFITED IS BY MAKING IT AN OFFICIAL COMMITTEE OF THE CITY SO THAT IT IS CONSIDERED AN OPEN MEETING ACT AND, UH, FALLS WITHIN OPEN MEETINGS ACT AND ALL THE DIFFERENT THINGS THAT MAKE IT PUBLIC.
AND SO THAT ACT HOPEFULLY DRAWS ATTENTION TO IT.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE SEE WITH, UH, I THINK A GOOD INDICATOR FOR US IN LAW ENFORCEMENT IS OUR, UH, CIVIC ASSOCIATIONS, PRIMARILY OUR CRIME, CRIME WATCH, OUR NEIGHBORHOOD WATCH PROGRAMS. WHEN SOMETHING HAPPENS, PEOPLE ARE INVOLVED.
WHEN IT TAPERS OFF, THINGS ARE GOING PRETTY WELL.
OBVIOUSLY WE DON'T WANNA WAIT FOR SOMETHING TO HAPPEN TO FILL THIS ROOM OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
WOULD LOVE TO HAVE THAT PARTICIPATION EARLY ON FOR EXACTLY WHAT'S BEEN SAID HERE.
WE, THOSE, THOSE IDEAS THAT ARE OUT THERE THAT WE DON'T HAVE IN FRONT OF US.
HERE ARE WHAT A FEW PEOPLE HAVE TALKED TO US ABOUT.
WE NEED MORE INFORMATION, WE NEED MORE PARTICIPATION, AND WE WANT AS MUCH AS WE CAN GET.
UM, I'LL JUST RUN DOWN THE REPORT REAL QUICK.
UH, AS CHIEF STRINGER GAVE IT TO ME, STAFFING LEVELS ARE CONSISTENT AT ABOUT 95%.
UH, WE PRETTY MUCH HOLD THERE AND WE JUST HAD GAVE ANOTHER TEST.
IN OTHER WORDS, THE ONLY PEOPLE WE TOOK WERE ALREADY WORKING AT ANOTHER AGENCY AND WE STOLE 'EM BECAUSE WE HAVE BETTER PAY.
UH, COUNSEL HAS REMAINED TRUE TO THEIR DECLARATION AND MAIN AND KEPT US, UH, A VERY WELL PAID DEPARTMENT.
AND OF COURSE AS THAT WE CAN LEAN ON OUR OFFICERS AND MAKE SURE THAT THEY KNOW YOU WILL EARN THAT PAY AND HERE'S HOW YOU'RE GOING TO EARN THAT.
AND WE GIVE 'EM SPECIFICS ON BOTH TRAINING AS WELL AS ACTIVITY OUT ON THE STREETS.
UH, THIS LAST TEST THAT OCCURRED WENT BACK TO THE PREVIOUS CIVIL SERVICE TEST.
SO WE ARE ACCEPTING, UH, NON-SWORN INDIVIDUALS ALSO.
THEY HAVE TO HAVE ONE OF THREE THINGS EITHER ALREADY SWORN ALREADY BEEN TO THE ACADEMY TO JUST TAKE THE TEST, OR TWO YEARS
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MILITARY, OR TWO YEARS COLLEGE MINIMUM.AND ALL THAT REALLY IS, IT'S SOME, A LITTLE BIT OF LIFE SEASONING THERE.
WE NEED SOMEBODY THAT'S AT LEAST HAD TO DEAL WITH PEOPLE A LITTLE BIT.
UM, THE, AND OF COURSE I CAN ELABORATE ON ANY OF THESE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, UH, OF COLLABORATION AND OUTREACH.
OUR CRIME PREVENTION UNIT ATTENDED SAFETY EVENTS AT THE PUBLIC SAFETY CENTER AND PROVIDED FIVE FREE SAFETY SEATS.
WE HAVE TWO DIFFERENT PROGRAMS. UH, OR DID WE MERGE THEM? DID WE FINALLY GOT THE, THE TWO CAR SEATS? THINGS WE'RE STILL SEPARATE, BUT SEPARATE, BUT COLLABORATE MM-HMM
SO THAT WE DON'T STEP ON EACH OTHER.
THERE'S TWO DIFFERENT GRANTS, TWO DIFFERENT FUNDING, UH, MECHANISMS. SO WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T CONFLICT.
AND THEY'RE ACTUALLY, BOTH OF THOSE, UH, PROGRAMS ARE REACHING A LOT OF PEOPLE, PUTTING A LOT OF VERY EXPENSIVE CAR SEATS OUT THERE.
AND OF COURSE, WITH DONATIONS, THAT'S WHERE WE GET THE CAR SEATS.
UM, IN CARS THAT PERHAPS WOULD EITHER HAVE A SUBSTANDARD CAR SEAT, IF ONE AT ALL.
UH, NEIGHBORHOOD WATCH GROUPS, A COUPLE OF THOSE ATTENDED SAFE SCHOOLS MEETING.
CONTINUED PREPARATIONS FOR NATIONAL NIGHT OUT.
COMING UP ON TUESDAY, OCTOBER 1ST.
I KEEP WANTING TO SAY SECOND OCTOBER.
FIRST OCTOBER 1ST OCTOBER 1ST NATIONAL NIGHT OUT.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE DONE, WE USED TO GO OUT INTO THE NEIGHBORHOODS, BUT IT, UM, AND THERE'S PROS AND CONS TO EACH AS THERE IS ANYTHING GOING INTO THE NEIGHBORHOODS IS GREAT, BUT THE SWAT COMMAND POST OR THE BEARCAT CAN ONLY MAKE IT TO SO MANY, UH, MEETINGS, BLOCK PARTIES, ET CETERA.
SO THIS, THESE WILL BE, THIS ONE WILL NOW BE AT TOWN SQUARE.
WE'RE GONNA HAVE ALL KINDS OF STUFF THERE.
WE'RE GONNA HAVE STUFF FOR THE KIDS TO DO A LOT OF TABLES AND BOOTHS, UH, TO SHARE INFORMATION.
THE SWAT COMMAND POSTS THE BOMB ROBOTS, UH, LIONS, TIGERS, AND BEARS.
WE'RE GONNA HAVE THE WHOLE THING OUT THERE AND YOU WANNA SEE IT, COME ON BY AND SEE IT.
AND IT'S REALLY, WE HAVE SOME REALLY COOL STUFF.
AND OUR OFFICERS LOVE GETTING OUT THERE.
INTERACTING FOLKS FROM THE JAIL ARE CRIME VICTIM ADVOCATES.
UH, PRETTY MUCH EVERYBODY THAT MAKES UP THE DEPARTMENT IS GONNA BE THERE.
OUR DIVE TEAM, THEY GOT SOME REALLY COOL STUFF.
HOT DOG ON FREE HOT DOGS AND POPCORN, BY THE WAY.
UM, LET'S SEE, COFFEE WITH A COP ON THE 17TH OF OCTOBER.
THIS IS A REALLY IMPORTANT THING THAT THE DEA COORDINATES WITH US ON.
AND THERE ARE TWO A YEAR AND WE HAVE MODIFIED IT, THE LOCATION, AND WE FOUND IT TO BE VERY SUCCESSFUL SO FAR.
WE ALSO HAVE A DROPBOX AT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
UH, A LITTLE TRICKY TO GET TO RIGHT NOW, JUST BECAUSE OF THE CONSTRUCTION.
WE'RE IN THE THIRD PHASE OF THE CONSTRUCTION BUILDING THE PARKING LOT THAT'LL LEAD UP TO THE FRONT DOOR.
BUT YOU CAN DROP OFF YOUR PRESCRIPTION DRUGS, UH, OUT OUTDATED OR UNUSED PRESCRIPTION DRUGS.
AND THE SAME THING WITH THE DRUG.
YOU DRIVE BY HAND, THE BAG OUT THE WINDOW AND WE PUT IT IN A BOX, WE DON'T TOUCH IT.
AND THEN WE HAUL 'EM DOWN TO HOUSTON, GIVE 'EM TO THE DRUG ENFORCEMENT AGENCY, AND THEY TAKE 'EM AWAY AND THEY BURN IT.
LAST YEAR WAS 200 POUNDS, OVER 200 POUNDS OF DOPE.
YOU'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT PRESCRIPTIONS THERE THOUGH, ACTUALLY.
NO NEEDLES, NO NARCOTIC, NO NEEDLES, NO CO.
UH, IF YOU BRING ME A CLOSED, IF YOU BRING ME A CLOSED SACK AND IT FEELS LIKE A BRICK, I'M PROBABLY NOT GONNA LOOK AT IT.
I'M JUST GONNA PUT IT IN THE BOX.
UM, BUT IT'S MAINLY ABOUT PRESCRIPTION DRUGS.
I DIDN'T KNOW THE POLICE DID THAT.
IT, SO WALMART HAS A MECHANISM.
IT'S SMALL AND, AND IT'S, AND WE HAVE THAT SMALL OPPORTUNITY THERE AS WELL, 24 7.
BUT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT HAPPENS TWICE A YEAR WHERE IT'S A BIG, THERE'S PROMOTION.
UH, DEA IS INVOLVED AND, AND WE HAVE A LOT OF, UH, JUST A LOT MORE PRESS FOR IT.
AND PEOPLE, SOMETIMES IT'S KINDA LIKE THE, UH, HAZARDOUS MATERIAL DAY.
BUT, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE, PEOPLE DIE, PEOPLE WITH, UH, LONG OR SHORT TERM, TERM ILLNESSES.
AND THEY MAY HAVE A STACK OF MEDICATIONS THAT, WHAT DO I DO WITH THIS NOW? UH, AND, AND WE PROVIDE THAT MECHANISM, WHETHER IT BE THE SMALL ONE AT THE PD OR DURING THE DRUG TAKE BACK.
AND OF COURSE WE, I'VE EVEN GONE TO PEOPLE'S HOUSES TO GET 'EM WHEN THEY WEREN'T COMFORTABLE GETTING OUT.
UH, WE WANT TO GET 'EM OUT OF THERE BECAUSE THEY CAN GET ABUSED.
USUALLY NOT BY THOSE FOLKS, BUT BY PEOPLE VISITING THEIR HOUSE OR THEY THROW 'EM AWAY AND SOMEONE GETS IN THE TRASH AND GETS 'EM.
AND, AND THEN NOW THEY ACTUALLY GET HURT OR OVERDOSE ACCIDENTALLY 'CAUSE THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY'RE TAKING.
BUT, UM, AWESOME PROGRAM THERE.
RAPE, AGGRESSION RAD CLASS, UH, TEACHING WOMEN TO DEFEND THEMSELVES.
AND THE PEOPLE THAT TEACH THEM, ALTHOUGH WE HAVE
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BIG GUYS DOING IT, THEY'RE JUST THERE TO BE GET BEAT ON.IT'S THE LITTLE GALS THAT TEACH EVERYBODY HOW TO DO IT.
UH, BECAUSE ANYBODY, IF YOU'RE SIX, FIVE, WHATEVER, YOU CAN TAKE SOMEBODY DOWN.
BUT IT'S TEACHING SMALLER STATURE FOLKS.
AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE SMALL TEACHING EVERYBODY.
HERE'S A WAY TO PROTECT YOURSELF OUT THERE.
UM, TRAINING OFFICERS HAVE HAD A TOTAL OF, UH, 1,570 HOURS, TRAINING HOURS IN THE LAST MONTH.
OUR, UH, SIMULATOR PROGRAM HAS STARTED EVERY YEAR WE GO THROUGH A SIMULATION.
WE USE A SIMULATOR, AND IT'S AT LEAST AN HOUR, USUALLY ABOUT AN HOUR AND 20 MINUTES.
AND IT'S NOT JUST AN ARCADE GAME.
THE OFFICER GOES IN THERE AND THE OPERATOR IS BEHIND THE TABLE.
AND DEPENDING ON WHAT THE OFFICER SAYS OR DOES, AND WE SET UP CHAIRS OR SOMETHING FOR COVER.
OKAY, IF YOU DIDN'T TAKE COVER PROPERLY, YOU MAY GET SHOT BY THE SCREEN.
BUT IT'S ALSO ABOUT HOW THE OFFICER ADDRESSES THE, THE SCENARIO THAT'S BEFORE THEM.
ARE THEY, ARE THEY DEMONSTRATING CRITICAL THINKING SKILLS? ARE THEY JUST SHOUTING, DROP THE GUN, DROP THE GUN, DROP THE GUN? OR ARE THEY ACTUALLY TRYING TO COMMUNICATE WITH SOMEBODY? AND THEN THERE'S A, NOT ONLY IS THERE A CRITIQUE FOR THAT OFFICER, THERE'S ALSO A REPORT DONE AT THE END OF THE ENTIRE SESSION.
AND, AND I DID TALK TO THE CHIEF THE OTHER DAY, AND WE'RE WORKING TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S ROOM FOR BAC IF YOU BTAC COMMITTEE, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO, UH, COUNCIL MEMBERS AND JUST LET US KNOW AND WE WILL MAKE ROOM ON THERE AND WE CAN EXTEND IT OUT.
BECAUSE WITH THE NEW BUILDING, WHICH IS PHENOMENAL, UH, WE NOW LEAVE THAT WE HAVE AN ACTUAL ROOM THAT WE CAN LEAVE IT SET UP.
SO IT'S NOT A MATTER OF TAKING IT UP AND PUTTING IT DOWN.
AND WE CAN TRAIN OTHER PEOPLE, FIELD TRAINING OFFICERS THAT WE'LL TAKE AN OFFICER OUT THERE SHOWING SOME MAYBE A DISCREPANCY OR JUST A WEAKNESS, HEY, COME ON, LET'S GO IN THERE AND LET'S WORK ON THIS.
LEMME SHOW YOU WHAT'S GOING ON.
AND SO WE CAN WORK WITH THEM ON THAT.
BUT THE, OUR, WE CALLED IT FATS.
IT'S ACTUALLY CALLED SOMETHING ELSE.
UH, IT'S A SIMULATOR, TASER, RECERTIFICATION FOR OVER 39 OFFICERS.
AND, UH, WE HAVE SOME MORE COMING.
UH, BAYTOWN POLICE ACADEMY PROVIDED OVER 3,100 HOURS FOR THE LAST MONTH, NINE COURSES TO 135 AREA PEACE OFFICERS, INCLUDING BAYTOWN PD.
OURS IS, OUR ACADEMY IS RECOGNIZED AS A REGIONAL ACADEMY, AND WE GET PEOPLE FROM BEAUMONT QUITE A BIT SO THAT THEY CAN COME TO OUR ACADEMY, EVEN THOUGH BEAUMONT HAS AN ACADEMY OUT THERE AT AUGUST.
GEORGE, UH, WE BEGAN WEEK ONE USE OF FORCE SIMULATOR.
THAT'S WHAT I JUST TALKED ABOUT.
AND I SKIP, THAT'S WRITTEN TWICE.
AND CONDUCTED TCO REQUIRED FINDING WELLNESS COURSE FOR POLICE OFFICERS.
AND THAT WILL DOVETAIL INTO A LOT OF THE, UH, SOME OF THE PEER WORK THAT HAS BEEN GOING ON AS WELL.
OUR PEER TEAM, OUR CRITICAL INCIDENT STRESS MANAGEMENT TEAM IS RECOGNIZED IN THE REGION.
IN FACT, WE WERE, WE'RE HELPING RIGHT NOW WITH AN INCIDENT THAT OCCURRED, UH, OVER 45 MINUTES AWAY FROM HERE BECAUSE THEY NEED MORE PEOPLE AND THEY RECOGNIZE OUR TEAM AS CAPABLE.
UH, WE'VE BEEN TO NEW MEXICO, OKLAHOMA, ARIZONA, UH, WE'VE BEEN PRETTY MUCH ALL OVER THE STATE OF TEXAS AND WE'RE THERE TO HELP THE OFFICERS.
ALL OF THAT TO SAY IS WE WANT HEALTHY OFFICERS.
SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE SEE OR DEAL WITH, UH, ARE PRETTY UNPLEASANT.
AND SO WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT, THAT THEY HAVE THE TOOLS FOR SELF-CARE.
AND THEN IF SOMETHING SHOULD REALLY BOTHER THEM, THEN WE HAVE TRAINED PEERS AND OTHER MECHANISMS TO HELP THEM GET THROUGH THAT A LITTLE FASTER.
UH, WE WERE REQUESTED BY THE BAYTOWN LITTLE THEATER NOT LONG AGO.
THEY HAD A PRESENTATION FOR TWO WEEKS IN A ROW, SIX PERFORMANCES CALLED THE GUYS GUYS.
AND IT WAS A TRUE STORY BASED ON A TRUE STORY ABOUT A NEW YORK CITY FIRE CAPTAIN WHO HAD TO GIVE THE EULOGIES FOR I THINK EIGHT OF THE FOLKS THAT IN HIS COMPANY, ONLY TWO OF THE FOLKS SURVIVED.
AND THE PLAY WAS ABOUT HIM HAVING TO GET FOUR EULOGIES READY.
AND HE CONTACTED, IT'S A TRUE STORY, THE WRITER OR THE EDITOR THAT HE CONTACTED HELPED HIM WRITE THE EULOGIES.
AT THE END OF THE PLAY, THERE WAS A PANEL AND SEVERAL PEOPLE UP THERE, INCLUDING MEMBERS OF OUR CISM TEAM.
UH, AND I WAS ONE OF THEM ANSWERED QUESTIONS, DO YOU HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT PTSD? UH, AND WERE, YOU TRY, WE'RE TRYING TO GET AWAY FROM PTSD, IT'S
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NOT A DISORDER, IT'S AN INJURY.AND YOU BREAK A LEG, I GIVE YOU A SPLINT, YOU GET SICK, I'M GONNA GIVE YOU A PILL, OR, OR I'M GONNA, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
I'M GONNA GIVE YOU SOME MEDICINE.
YOU GO OUT THERE AND YOU HAVE TO DEAL WITH SOMETHING HORRIFIC.
I HAVE A MECHANISM NOW TO HELP YOU THROUGH THIS BETTER.
AND SO WE WERE REALLY CAREFUL ABOUT THAT AND THAT DISCUSSION OCCURRED.
UM, WE ARE ALSO ABOUT TO IMPLEMENT, UH, WHAT WE'RE GOING TO CALL AS AN EDUCATIONAL AND WALK AROUND PROGRAM, MAKING SURE, BECAUSE, BECAUSE I'M A POLICE OFFICER AND IN MY CASE, I'M A MARINE, SO I DON'T NEED HELP, RIGHT.
BUT MAYBE IF YOU SEE ME HAVING SITTING DOWN AT THE, AT THE COFFEE TABLE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT AND, AND I JUST SEEM A LITTLE DIFFERENT, MAYBE I'M JUST NOT AS PERKY AS I USED TO BE, THEN NOW WE CAN SIT DOWN THERE AND WE'VE GOT SOMEBODY THAT'S TRAINED THAT CAN SIT THERE AND SAY, AND KIND OF WALK 'EM THROUGH THINGS, HEY, WHAT'S GOING ON? AND NOW WE INCREASE THEIR LONGEVITY, INCREASE THEIR HEALTH, OVERALL HEALTH, MENTAL HEALTH AND PHYSICAL HEALTH ARE CLOSELY RELATED.
AND WE WANNA PR WE WANT TO INCREASE THAT.
AND, AND OF COURSE WE HAVE, BAYTOWN WAS ONE OF THE FIRST, UH, INSTRUCTORS TO BE, WELL ACTUALLY WE WERE THE FIRST OFFICERS TO BE TRAINED BY THE TEXAS STATE PEER NETWORK TO CONTINUE ON WITH THOSE, WITH THAT TRAINING.
SO WE WERE THE FIRST ONES TO BECOME INSTRUCTORS OUTSIDE OF THAT INITIAL CORE.
AND WE'RE, WE'RE BEING REQUESTED QUITE REGULARLY TO TEACH THAT CLASS.
IT'S NOT A CRITICAL INCIDENT STRESS MANAGEMENT COURSE AS IDENTIFIED BY I-C-I-S-F, THE UH, INTERNATIONAL CRITICAL INCIDENT STRESS FOUNDATION.
BUT IF YOU'RE INTERESTED IN THAT, YOU'LL BE INTERESTED IN CISM.
IF YOU'RE NOT INTERESTED IN OUR NETWORK PRESENTATION OVER TWO DAYS, YOU'RE NOT GONNA WANNA DO THIS OTHER STUFF
SO WE ARE, WE'RE TRYING TO CALL PEOPLE ON THE FRONT END BECAUSE WHEN THAT PHONE RINGS OR WHEN I SIT DOWN WITH THAT PERSON, I WANNA MAKE SURE I'VE GOT SOMEBODY TRAINED TO HELP WALK THEM THROUGH IT AND TRYING TO MAKE SURE OUR OFFICERS KNOW WE WANT, WE'RE INTERESTED IN THEIR WELLNESS AND THEIR FAMILY'S WELLNESS FROM THE DAY THEY STEPPED IN AND PIN ON THE BADGE UNTIL THE TIME THEY TURN IN THEIR PAPERS.
AND TO INCLUDE, AGAIN, THEIR FAMILY AND MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE AS HEALTHY AS THEY CAN BE, UH, WHEN THEY LEAVE.
AND THE CHIEF IS PROBABLY GONNA SAY, HOW LONG DID YOU TALK? AND, WELL, ANYWAY, THAT'S THE, THAT'S THE REPORT.
DO Y'ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT ANYTHING THAT I'VE RATTLED THROUGH HERE? NO, I THINK YOU DID A GREAT JOB.
AND THE PROCESSES AND THINGS THAT ARE DONE DURING THOSE TRAININGS THAT IT, THAT, AND I LIKE THAT IT'S RECORDED SO PEOPLE UNDERSTAND WHAT Y'ALL ARE DOING.
HE'S ALWAYS REACHING OUT TO US AS A WHOLE ABOUT OUR WELLNESS.
MENTAL WELLNESS, PHYSICAL WELLNESS, AND UH, IT'S APPRECIATED.
AND I'D LIKE TO ADD A LITTLE BIT TO WHAT HE SAID ABOUT THE SIMULATOR.
HAVING JUST GONE THROUGH THE CITIZENS ACADEMY SIMULATOR'S.
PRETTY Y'ALL WANT TO DO IT? CONTACT ME.
AND NOW THAT WE KNOW IT'S APPROVED, WE CAN GET IT SET UP.
AND EVEN IF YOU WANNA JUST GO WALK YEAH.
A LITTLE BIT OF, KIND OF GET A FEEL AS TO WHAT THE OFFICER HAS TO DEAL WITH.
THEY TOOK US TO Y'ALL TO, Y'ALL USED TO HAVE AN PROBABLY NOTHING NEARLY AS ADVANCED AS IT'S TOTALLY, TOTALLY DIFFERENT THAT WHEN WE WERE, WE COULD, WE WERE ALLOWED TO ACTUALLY LIKE, BE IN THOSE SITUATIONS AND UNDERSTAND HOW FAST YOU HAD TO MAKE A DECISION.
UM, IT'S THAT ONE ON STEROIDS NOW.
SO THAT MAY BE SOMETHING Y'ALL SHOULD CONSIDER LOOKING AT.
I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT BECAUSE I THINK ALSO WHEN WE TALK TO OUR CONSTITUENTS, WE'RE ABLE TO ARTICULATE WHAT YOU'RE EXPERIENCING EXACTLY.
BECAUSE WE'VE EXPERIENCED OR WE'RE UNDERSTANDING, YOU KNOW, EXACTLY WHERE YOU'RE COMING FROM.
ALRIGHT, ANYTHING ELSE FOR HIM?
[a. Consider setting the date, time and location for the next Baytown Police Advisory Committee meeting.]
OKAY.SO THE NEXT THING IS TO TALK ABOUT THE NEXT MEETING.
WHEN IS THE NEXT MEETING SCHEDULED FOR, UH, TUESDAY, OCTOBER THE 29TH AT 6:00 PM AND THEN THE LOCATION, DEPENDING WHERE YOU WOULD LIKE TO, I'LL HAVE IT.
SO I'M IN, I'M IN ORLANDO PRESENTING.
IS THERE ANY POSSIBLE WAY WE COULD DO IT ON THE 22ND? UH, WE CAN CHECK THE CALENDAR AND THEN SEND AN EMAIL TO LET Y'ALL KNOW AND PULL TO MAKE SURE EVERYONE WOULD BE OKAY WITH THE 22ND.
UM, IF THAT'S WHAT, IF THAT'S FINE WITH EVERYONE.
I MEAN, OTHERWISE I WOULD BE FINE WITH IT.
BUT IF I'M THE ONE THAT CARRIES THE BINDER
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ABSOLUTELY.I DON'T WANT YOU TO CHANGE YOUR SCHEDULE BECAUSE OF ME, BUT I THINK WE SHOULD ALL GO TO ORLANDO
I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE LOCATION.
SHOULD WE MAYBE THINK ABOUT IF WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO IT IN THE NEW POLICE STATION? DO IT THERE? WELL, WHEN WE, WHEN WE HAD IT AT THE OTHER POLICE STATION, WE TALKED ABOUT THAT LAST TIME.
UM, WE DIDN'T HAVE ANYBODY COME EXCEPT FOR RICHARD'S FAMILY.
UM, AND, AND THEY STAYED FOR THE BEGINNING PARTS OF IT.
UM, BUT, BUT WE ALSO TALKED ABOUT HOW SOME PEOPLE MAY NOT FEEL COMFORTABLE BECAUSE IT'S DIFFICULT TO GET TO BECAUSE OF HOW THE PARKING'S NOT SET UP YET.
AND WE TALKED ABOUT ONCE THE PARKING SITUATION IS SETTLED, IT'D BE EASIER FOR US TO, TO HAVE IT THERE.
MAYBE MORE PEOPLE WOULD BE OPEN TO COMING.
I MEAN, FOR ME IT'S COMPLETE OPPOSITE SIDE OF TOWN.
I HAD AN ASSISTANT CHIEF TELL ME TODAY, HE THINKS WE'RE GONNA BE POURING CONCRETE REAL SOON.
YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO BE POURING
I MEAN, DO YOU THINK IT'D BE READY BY THE 22ND? NO, NO MA'AM.
BUT IT'S, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S A LOT CLOSER.
BUT REMEMBER WE TALKED ABOUT THAT AND THAT WAS THE ONE THING, I THINK YOU WERE THERE TOO WHEN MICHAEL, YOU WERE THERE.
BUT WHEN WE SAID WELL, THE, IT WAS THE, YEAH, BECAUSE WE HAD TO PARK SOMEWHERE AND THEN WALK AROUND AND THEN WALK ON WOOD.
BUT I MEAN, BUT I THINK PEOPLE, I MEAN, YEAH, JUST THROWING IT OUT THERE.
I THINK DEFINITELY FUTURE MEETINGS NEED TO HAPPEN OUT THERE.
SO YOU'LL LET US KNOW ABOUT OCTOBER 22ND.
I GUESS WE CAN HAVE IT HERE AGAIN.
UH, YOU CAN CHOOSE TO IF YOU WANT US TO REACH OUT.
I KNOW YOUR LAST, WHEN YOU HAD THE BUCKETS AND EVERYTHING, I THINK WAS AT THE LIBRARY.
SO I DUNNO IF THAT'S AN OPTION FOR Y'ALL.
AND WE CAN LOOK TO SEE IF IT'S AVAILABLE, WHICHEVER LOCATION.
SO ARE, SO ARE YOU SUGGESTING MAYBE WE TRY TO SEE IF WE CAN GET JAMIE, UM, WE CAN REACH OUT TO HER AND SEE IF SHE'S AVAILABLE THE 22ND.
IF YOU, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO DO SOMETHING LIKE WHAT YOU DID THE LAST TIME, THAT MAY BE HELPFUL.
'CAUSE THEN I CAN TELL HER, BECAUSE JAMIE'S THE ONE THAT DID IT WITH US IN 2020 AND WE CAN REVIEW WHAT WE DID LAST TIME AND THEN WE CAN HAVE THE NEW GROUP THERE.
WHAT, WHAT ARE THE BUCKETS? THE BUCKETS OF CONCERN? THE, THE BUCKET? YEAH.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE THING IS ABOUT BUCKETS, BUT ESSENTIALLY THIS IS WHAT THE SHEET LOOKS LIKE.
AND THEN YOU HAVE YOUR CONCERNS UNDER EACH BUCKET.
SO YOU HAVE, MENTAL HEALTH IS A BUCKET.
TRANSPARENCY AND ACCOUNTABILITY IS A BUCKET.
AND ALL THE ONES THAT I HAD MENTIONED, THEY'RE DIFFERENT BUCKETS.
AND THEN THAT'S HOW WE PRESENTED TO, UM, THE CITY COUNCIL ON.
AND SO MENTAL HEALTH, IF WE GO UNDER IT, YOU'LL PROBABLY SEE THAT WE'VE PRETTY MUCH HIT MOST OF THOSE BUCKETS OR MOST OF THOSE CONCERNS UNDER THAT BUCKET.
AND, AND THE CHIEF HAD MENTIONED, YOU KNOW, WE WANNA BE AS TRANSPARENT AS WE CAN AS A POLICE DEPARTMENT, BUT IT MAKES IT HARD WHEN, WHEN WE'RE NOT GETTING PEOPLE TO SHOW UP MM-HMM
YOU KNOW, THEY DON'T BELIEVE US THAT WE'RE GONNA BE TRANSPARENT UNTIL WE ACTUALLY CAN MEET, YOU KNOW, AND I WONDER IF, I WONDER IF THE RECORDINGS THAT WE HAVE FROM HERE, THEY'RE MADE PUBLIC.
IS IT SOMETHING THAT YOU CAN LINK TO YOUR FACEBOOK PAGE AND SAY, HEY, WE HAD A WONDERFUL MISSED YOU LAST NIGHT AT THE BPAC MEETING.
HERE'S A RECORDING IN CASE YOU MISSED IT.
ONCE, ONCE THE RECORDING'S SET AND EVERY, ALL THE, UH, WHATEVER PROGRAMMING AND, AND THINGS NEEDS TO OCCUR, THEN UH, I THINK IT, IT'S BE JUST A MATTER OF PUTTING IT TO LINK.
AND I THINK WE HAVE DIFFERENT ACCOUNTS TO INCLUDE A YOUTUBE CHANNEL.
SO THAT WAY IF YOU DON'T HAVE FACEBOOK OR, OR, UH, THOSE, WELL, ALL THE DIFFERENT SOCIAL MEDIA THINGIES, I CALL IT THE FACE.
IF IF YOU DON'T HAVE ONE OF THOSE, THEN YOU CAN STILL ACCESS IT, UH, A DIFFERENT WAY.
OF COURSE, EVERYTHING IS ELECTRONIC.
EVERYTHING'S IN SOCIAL MEDIA, ONE SORT OF ANOTHER, BUT TRYING TO MAKE IT AS AVAILABLE AS POSSIBLE, UH, WE CAN DEFINITELY PUT THAT ON OUR, UH, OUR WEBSITE, OUR PD WEBSITE, AS WELL AS OUR FACEBOOK PAGE.
THAT IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WHENEVER YOU HAVE IT READY TO GO, Y'ALL CAN SEND TO THEM AND THEY CAN GO ON SO THEY CAN HAVE ACCESS TO IT.
SO, OR CAN YOU LET THEM KNOW IT'S PUBLICIZED? WE CAN LET THEM KNOW THAT IT'S PUBLIC.
UM, IT'S POSTED TO THE AGENDA OR POSTED ON THE WEBSITE.
UNDER THE MEETING PACKET, THE LINK IS AVAILABLE.
SO WE CAN PUT THAT LINK COME OUT PAGE.
THAT'S BEING TRANSPARENT BECAUSE IT GIVES, AND MAYBE EVEN, UH, EVEN SAY ON THERE, YOU KNOW, THAT HE GAVE AN ACCOUNT OF ALL THE DIFFERENT THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING.
'CAUSE I DON'T THINK PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THAT.
WHENEVER YOU HAVE THE CHIEF THAT GIVES THAT LONG REPORT,
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IT'S BECAUSE HE'S REALLY SAYING EVERYTHING THAT WE HAVE BEEN CONCERNED ABOUT.AND SO I THINK THAT'S AN IMPORTANT PIECE OF IT AS WELL.
AND THE CHIEF'S BIG WORD IN OUR MISSION STATEMENT.
AND AS FAR AS THE BPAC AND WHAT WE WANT THE CITIZENS TO KNOW IS PARTNERSHIP.
WE WANT TO BUILD A PARTNERSHIP WITH THE CITIZENS OF BAYTOWN TO MAKE IT A SAFER PLACE TO LIVE.
AND THAT IS REALLY WHAT HE'S AFTER.
AND WE WANT THE PEOPLE TO KNOW THAT WE'RE SERIOUS ABOUT IT.
SO I THINK IT'LL THAT'S A START.
AND THEN MAYBE IF PEOPLE HEAR IT MAYBE UNDER THAT SAY NEXT MEETING IS, AND THEN YOU COULD SAY WHERE WE'RE GONNA BE, WE INVITE YOU TO COME.
AND THAT WAY THEY CAN SEE IT AND THEY CAN ALSO TRACK, UM, THE VIEWS WHEN THOSE, WHEN THOSE VIDEOS ARE PLAYED.
AND I THINK YOU HAVE TO GO THROUGH SO MUCH OF IT BEFORE IT TRACKS AS SOMEONE WHO'S ACTUALLY VIEWED IT.
AND YOU CAN SEE WHO'S NOT NECESSARILY WHO, BUT YOU CAN SEE HOW MANY PEOPLE HAVE VIEWED THAT'S GOOD.
AND SOME OF THOSE, UH, LOGISTICS OR ANALYTICS CAN BE BROUGHT TO BEAR.
AND THEN NOW WHERE DO WE NEED TO TRY TO INCREASE OUR EFFORTS? RIGHT.
LET'S KEEP THIS GOING, BUT LET'S FOCUS A LITTLE MORE OVER HERE.
SO ADD THAT TO HIS REPORT ANALYTICS ON, ON
SO, OKAY, SO WE ARE LOOKING ON, ARE Y'ALL OPEN FOR OCTOBER 22ND? I AM SO FAR.
OKAY, SO YOU'LL SEND, YOU'LL, YOU'LL CHECK TO MAKE SURE THERE'S NOTHING GOING ON HERE OR NO, YOU'LL CHECK WITH JAMIE.
IF SHE'S NOT, YOU'LL CHECK TO SEE IF SOMETHING'S NOT GOING ON HERE.
BUT THEN IF JAMIE ISN'T AVAILABLE, YOU'LL CHECK TO SEE IF WHETHER OR NOT SHE CAN MEET US IN THE NOVEMBER MEETING, WHICH WOULD PROBABLY, ARE WE DOING THANKSGIVING WEEK, THE THURSDAY OF, OR THE TUESDAY OF THANKSGIVING WEEK? OR ARE WE GONNA DO THE WEEK BEFORE? I WANNA SAY, UM, IT'S FOR THE WEEK BEFORE THANKSGIVING.
LIKE THE TUESDAY BEFORE THE, THE WEEK, THE WEEK BEFORE THAT.
A LOT OF PEOPLE TAKE THANKSGIVING WEEK OFF.
THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING NOW, SO THAT IF YOU DO TALK TO JAMIE, SHE'S NOT AVAILABLE FOR OCTOBER.
MAYBE WE CAN GET HER IN DECEMBER, I MEAN NOVEMBER.
AND THEN THAT WAY WE CAN HAVE A STRONG, AND HOPEFULLY BY THEN YOU'LL HAVE APPOINTED PEOPLE.
UM, HOPEFULLY BY THEN COUNCIL HAS APPOINTED, UH, WHOEVER THEY WOULD LIKE TO FILL THE POSITIONS AND REAPPOINTMENTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO IF YOU CAN EMPHASIZE THE IMPORTANCE OF THEM REAPPOINTING PRETTY QUICK, THAT WOULD BE AWESOME.
A QUESTION ON THAT, RIGHT? UM, YEAH, SURE.
ARE WE GONNA CONTINUE TO DO THAT WITH COUNCIL APPOINTING PEOPLE? UM, HE HAD MENTIONED EARLIER THE, UH, OPEN MEETINGS ACT AND I REMEMBER WHEN COUNCILMAN CAME IN, THEY WERE GONNA DO AWAY WITH THAT, GONNA PUSH IT OFF AND WERE WHERE WE AT ON THAT, YOU KNOW, SO, UM, THAT'S KIND OF STILL IN THE SAME PLACE.
THEY HAVEN'T FULLY FINISHED THAT DISCUSSION.
CAN Y'ALL, CAN YOU HEAR ME OVER THERE? YEAH.
THEY HAVEN'T FULLY FINISHED THAT DISCUSSION.
UM, I KNOW THEY PLAN TO STILL HAVE IT.
THE OPEN MEETINGS ACT, I BELIEVE WAS MORE FOR, UM, WHERE YOU'RE ABLE TO MEET, TO MEET MORE OPENLY.
YOU DON'T NECESSARILY, UM, HAVE TO ALWAYS STICK TO THIS LOCATION.
YOU CAN WELL, AND I, I KNOW THEY HAD MENTIONED SOMETHING WE WON'T, WE WOULDN'T EVEN HAVE TO HAVE A QUORUM.
UM, THEY'RE STILL WORKING THE DETAILS OUT OF THAT ONE.
SO WE'LL LET YOU KNOW AS SOON AS, UH, THE AD HOC BOARDS AND COMMISSION COMMITTEE HAS COME UP WITH A FINAL PROCESS ON THAT.
IS THERE ANY OPPORTUNITY TO ADVOCATE NOT TO COME OFF OF THAT AND TO STAY AS IS? ONLY BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE IT, WE'RE, WE'RE IN THE MIDDLE OF A RESTRUCTURE.
UM, AND MAYBE UNTIL WE GET OUR BEARINGS, UM, I BELIEVE WHEN THE NEXT AWARDS AND COMMISSION AD HOC COMMITTEE HAPPENS, WE COULD ALWAYS ASK, UM, COUNCIL MEMBER ALVARADO AND COUNCIL MEMBER GRAHAM, IF THEY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR ANY INPUT OF COURSE, TO REACH OUT TO YOU AS THE CHAIR, UH, TO KIND OF GET YOUR FEEDBACK ON IT, SEE IF YOU'RE AVAILABLE FOR THAT MEETING.
UM, SO YOU HAVE SOME TYPE OF INPUT ON WHAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE MOVING FORWARD.
I MEAN, WHAT DO Y'ALL THINK? BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO, I MEAN, I'M COMING OFF, BUT I WANT TO, I, I HEAR Y'ALL CLEARLY, I KIND OF AGREE WITH YOU, BUT, UM, I DON'T WANT TO PUT THEM IN A BAD POSITION IF IT'S, IF IT'S CAUSING Y'ALL ISSUES TO HAVE TO DO THIS.
YOU SEE WHAT I'M SAYING? MM-HMM
IT, IT WASN'T ANYTHING RELATED TO THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE.
UM, IT WAS JUST, UM, JUST PROCESSES BECAUSE I THINK IT CAUGHT US ALL OFF GUARD THAT DAY.
IT DIDN'T BE, I KNOW FOR SURE.
I DON'T THINK WE HAVE ENOUGH INFORMATION ABOUT WHAT HAPPENS, I MEAN, TO KNOW WHETHER IT'S GOOD OR BAD.
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YEAH.I BELIEVE THEY'RE STILL WORKING THAT PORTION OUT OF WHAT IT WOULD AFFECT AND THEN WHAT, WHICH WAY THEY'D LIKE TO GO WITH IT.
AND TIME WISE, I DON'T BELIEVE THE CITY WILL BE ABLE TO MOVE AS QUICKLY AS WHAT WE THINK, UH, IN ORDER TO SOLIDIFY WHETHER WE'RE GOING TO STAY WITH THE, UH, THAT PARTICULAR, UH, SUBJECT.
AND SO I THINK WE STILL HAVE TIME RIGHT.
TO, TO ACCOMPLISH, UH, THE TRANSITION OF THE TURNOVER.
EVEN BEFORE THEY GET TO THE FINAL, UM, END RESULT OF, UH, THE MEETINGS.
I THINK, I THINK STEVE AND I WERE JUST REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT THE FACT THAT WE WERE SUPPOSED TO CALL PEOPLE
AND SO THAT'S A, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I KNOW.
I DIDN'T HAVE THE BANDWIDTH TO TRY TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY WAS GONNA SHOW UP, TRYING TO FIND A PLACE FOR US TO GO.
IT WAS, THERE WAS NO GONNA, THERE WAS NOT GONNA BE ANY NOTES ACCORDING TO WHAT WE KNEW, UH, UNTIL WE KIND OF FREAKED OUT.
NOT FREAKED OUT, BUT LIKE, WE KIND OF HAD, WE VOICED OUR CONCERNS AND THEN THAT'S WHERE WE ARE NOW IS WE'RE STILL STAYING AS IS UNTIL SOMEONE CAN GIVE US A CLEAR STRUCTURE.
BUT THE LAST THING I WANT IS FOR IT TO BE OKAY, IT'S ALL Y'ALL'S AND Y'ALL FIGURE OUT FROM THERE AND THEN IT DISMANTLED.
LIKE IT JUST DISMANTLES JUST BECAUSE, I MEAN, AND I, I DON'T BELIEVE THAT'S THE INTENTION OF THE BOARD.
I BELIEVE WE'RE STILL GONNA BE HERE TO SUPPORT, HELP RECORD.
ANYTHING LIKE THAT, BUT, UH, UNTIL THAT FINAL DECISION IS MADE.
AND WE'LL ALSO LET YOU KNOW, UM, GET WITH COUNCIL MEMBER, UH, ALVARADO AND GRAHAM FOR ANY INPUT FROM THE BOARD WHEN THEY'RE MAKING THOSE DECISIONS.
AND LIKE I SAID, I, I JUST, I DIDN'T WANNA PUT ANY UNNEEDED STRESS ON Y'ALL AS WELL, SO YEAH.
NOT TRYING TO MAKE IT DIFFICULT, JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT, I THINK I OVERSTEP WAS TRYING TO DO A LITTLE TOO MUCH AND THE CHIEF'S LIKE, HEY, STAND DOWN.
I, I'M, I WAS JUST TRYING TO YEAH.
PROCESS SPEND ON EVERYTHING, SO YEAH, IT GOT CONFUSING.
ALL RIGHT, WELL IF THAT IS ALL WE HAVE, THEN I GUESS WE ARE ADJOURNED AT 6:51 PM.