* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.
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SINCE WE HAVE A QUORUM PRESENT. 
          AUGUSTINE PRESENT. 
          DONNA? HERE. 
          CHA. 
          HERE. 
          TAMMY. 
          PRESENT. 
          RICK. 
          PRESENT. 
          KIM PRESENT. 
          AND MIKE HERE. 
          DO WE HAVE A QUORUM? DO WE HAVE YES, WE DO HAVE A QUORUM. 
          GO AHEAD AND READ THE SCRIPT. 
          ALRIGHT, SO FOR THIS, UH, 
          [1. CITIZEN COMMENTS Notice is hereby given that in accordance with the Texas Open Meetings Act, Texas Government Code, Chapter 551, prohibits the Planning and Zoning Commission from discussing, deliberating, or considering, subjects for which public notice has not been given on the agenda. Issues that cannot be referred to the administration for action may be placed on the agenda of a future Planning and Zoning Session.]
PER PUBLIC HEARING, UH, CITIZEN COMMENTS, UH, FOR DISCUSSION ON ITEMS THAT ARE NOT ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA, THE PURPOSE OF, UH, CITIZEN'S COMMENTS IS TO GIVE CITIZENS THE RIGHT TO EXPRESS THEIR VIEWS. 
          ANYONE DESIRING TO SPEAK SHOULD HAVE SIGNED THE APPROPRIATE LIST IN THE FOYER. 
          EACH CITIZEN SHALL GIVE THEIR NAME AND ADDRESS TO PROVIDE A PROP FOR A PROP PROPER RECORD. 
          THE RULES ALLOW FOR EACH PERSON ONE MINUTE TO SPEAK. 
          A CITIZEN MAY LA PASS THEIR TIME TO ANOTHER PERSON WHO REQUESTED TO ADDRESS THE PENDING EVENT IN COMMISSION. 
          HOWEVER, NO CITIZENS' REMARKS ARE SHALL EXCEED THREE MINUTES. 
          THE ONE OR THREE MINUTE, UH, LIMIT MAY BE EXTENDED BY A MAJORITY VOTE BY THE COMMISSION. 
          I ENCOURAGE EVERYONE TO BE AS CONCISE AS POSSIBLE. 
          PLEASE KEEP IN MIND THE COMMISSION CANNOT DISCUSS OR DELIBERATE ON ITEMS FOR WHICH PUBLIC NOTION PUBLIC NOTICE HAS NOT BEEN GIVEN ON THE, THIS AGENDA. 
          ISSUES THAT CANNOT BE REFERRED TO ADMINISTRATION FRACTION MAY BE CONSIDERED FOR PLACEMENT ON THE AGENDA FOR FUTURE PLANNING AND ZONING AGENDA. 
          HAS ANYBODY SIGNED UP TO SPEAK? MM-HMM. 
          NO. 
          UH, TIM'S CHECKING RIGHT NOW. 
          I, I BELIEVE NO. 
          YEP. 
          NOBODY SIGNED UP. 
          OKAY. 
          THERE BEING NO ONE ELSE, UH, DESIRING TO SPEAK. 
          THIS CONCLUDES THE CITIZEN'S COMMENT PORTION OF THE AGENDA. 
          MINUTES. 
          MINUTES. 
          AND READ THAT ACTION. 
          WHAT'S IT? OKAY. 
          MM-HMM . 
          ALRIGHT. 
          UM, SO, UH, ITEM TWO 
          [a.  Consider approving the meeting minutes of the June 18, 2024, Planning and Zoning Commission regular meeting.]
MINUTES. 
          CONSIDER APPROVING THE MEETING MINUTES FOR JUNE 28TH, 2024. 
          PLANNING IS ON COMMISSION. 
          REGULAR MEETING. 
          I NEED A MOTION. 
          I'D LIKE TO MOVE FOR APPROVAL TO CLARIFY. 
          THAT WAS JUNE 18TH. 
          THERE'S A, THERE'S A CORRECTION. 
          YEAH. 
          JUNE 18TH, 2024. 
          THERE'S A CORRECTION. 
          UH, KIM KOSTIC LISTED AS PRESENT AND NOT PRESENT. 
          AND I WAS NOT PRESENT. 
          , UM, WE'LL FIX IT. 
          AND OSCAR CHOPPA IS LISTED PRESENT, AND THAT SHOULD BE ME. 
          I'M SORRY. 
          HE WAS HERE. 
          HE WAS HERE. 
          HE WAS HERE. 
          OH, HE, OKAY THEN WHO AM I? OH, THERE, UH, I'M NOT ON HERE. 
          OKAY, I'LL FINISH IT. 
          I THOUGHT, WERE YOU HERE? YEP, SHE WAS HERE. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          WE NEED A SECOND. 
          I DON'T THINK WE NEED A SECOND. 
          COMMISSIONERS. 
          I'LL SECOND. 
          SORRY. 
          WHO'S MIKE? SECOND. 
          OKAY. 
          ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. 
          AYE. 
          AYE. 
          ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES. 
          LIKE SIGN. 
          OKAY. 
          I'M GONNA READ, UH, THE FOLLOWING ON ONE TIME AND IT APPLIES TO ALL PUBLIC HEARINGS. 
          PUBLIC HEARINGS ARE HELD FOR THE PURPOSE OF GIVING ALL AND ARREST DEPART PERSONS THE RIGHT TO SPEAK AND TO BE HEARD. 
          EVERYONE NEAR DESIRING TO SPEAK AT TODAY'S HEARING SHOULD HAVE SIGNED THE APPROPRIATE LIST. 
          AS THIS LIST WILL PROVIDE THE SPEAKING ORDER FOR THE HEARING. 
          EACH SPEAKER SHALL GIVE THEIR NAME AND ADDRESS TO PROVIDE A PROPER RECORD FOR THIS HEARING. 
          THE RULES ALLOW EACH SPEAKER THREE MINUTES TO PRESENT INFORMATION. 
          HOWEVER, I ENCOURAGE EVERYONE TO BE CONCISE. 
          IF YOU'RE, IF YOU ARE A GROUP WISHING TO ADDRESS THE BOARD ON THE SAME SUBJECT, PLEASE SELECT A SPOKESPERSON TO PRESENT THE INFORMATION. 
          IF ANYONE HAS ANY QUESTIONS, PLEASE DIRECT THEM TO ME. 
          I'M GONNA READ THIS AND THEN ASK. 
          YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          SO, 
          [a.  Conduct a public hearing and consider making a recommendation concerning a request to amend the official zoning map to rezone approximately 0.30 acres at 600 and 620 Ward Road from Mixed Residential at Low to Medium Densities (SF2) or Mixed Residential (MR in the new code), to a Neighborhood Serving Commercial (NSC) or Neighborhood Commercial (NC in the new code) Zoning District.]
UH, ITEM NUMBER THREE, ZONING, UH, CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDER MAKING RECOMMENDATION CONCERNING, CONCERNING A REQUEST TO AMEND THE OFFICIAL ZONING MAP TO RESERVE REZONE APPROXIMATELY 0.30 ACRES AT 606 20 WARD ROAD FROM MIXED RE RESIDENTIAL AT LOW TO MEDIUM DENSITIES, SS SF TWO OR 
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MIXED RESIDENTIAL MR. AND THE NEW CODE TO A NE NEIGHBORHOOD SERVING COMMERCIAL NRC OR NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL NC AND THE NEW CODE ZONING DISTRICT. 
          AND THAT IS A MOUTHFUL. 
          , I WANT TO GO AHEAD AND, AND, UM, I, I'D LIKE TO CLARIFY THAT BEFORE LAMI STARTS, WHY THAT READS SO WEIRD BECAUSE IT'S A TIMING ISSUE WITH THE LABELS IS REALLY, IT'S, IT'S BASICALLY THE SAME REQUEST. 
          THE, THE QUESTION IS WHETHER THE REQUEST WOULD GO BEFORE CITY COUNCIL FOR FINAL APPROVAL OR DENIAL PRIOR TO THE NEW ULDC BEING APPROVED OR AFTER THE NEW ULDC BEING APPROVED. 
          SO THAT'S WHY YOU SEE TWO DIFFERENT DESIGNATIONS ON THE FRONT END AND TWO DIFFERENT DESIGNATIONS ON THE BACK END. 
          IT IS THE SAME REQUEST EITHER WAY. 
          SO, SORRY. 
          THAT'S OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          I'LL, UH, OPEN THIS PUBLIC THIS HEARING AND ASK THE STAFF TO RE PLEASE SUMMARIZE THE ITEM. 
          UH, ANYONE SIGNED TO SPEAK? NO, THERE ISN'T. 
          UM, SO I GUESS THIS PUBLIC CLEARING IS NO CLOSED. 
          NO. 
          NO. 
          OKAY. 
          GOOD. 
          GOOD EVENING, MR. CHAIRMAN. 
          UH, WELCOME. 
          COME BACK, UH, COMMISSIONERS. 
          MY NAME IS IAN SALEM, SENIOR PLANNER WITH THE PLANNING AND DEVELOPING SERVICES. 
          THE SUBJECT PROPERTY, UM, 0.3, UH, ACRES OF LAND, UH, BOUNDED BY THE NORTH SIXTH STREET FROM THE WEST SIDE AND NORTH SEVENTH STREET FROM THE EAST SIDE. 
          AND THAT'S AT THE, UH, I PRINTED IT. 
          IT'S AT, ON THE NORTH SIDE OF WARD ROAD. 
          THE SUBJECT PROPERTY CONSISTS OF TWO LOTS. 
          THE ONE ON THE EAST SIDE IS VACANT. 
          THE ONE ON THE WEST SIDE LOCATED AT 600. 
          UH, WARDROBE IS OCCUPIED BY AN OFFICE BUILDING. 
          THE ZONING OF THE, THE PROPERTY IS SF TWO, WHICH IS MIXED RESIDENTIAL AT LOW TO MEDIUM DENSITIES OR MR IN THE NEW CODE. 
          THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP DESIGNATES THE SUBJECT PROPERTY AS MIXED DENSE TIER RESIDENTIAL. 
          THE PRIMARY LAND USE FOR, UH, IN MIXED DENSE TIER RESIDENTIAL IS MAINLY, UH, RESIDENTIAL USES. 
          HOWEVER, THE SECONDARY USE COULD BE, UH, SMALL SCALE COMMERCIAL USE THAT MEETS THE CRITERIA OF NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL, UH, AND THE, UH, COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. 
          THIS IS AN AREA OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY. 
          THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS ABOUT 800 FEET FROM THE INTERSECTION OF NORTH ALEXANDER AND WARDROBE. 
          THIS IS THE EXISTING, UH, OFFICE BUILDING ON 600 WARDROBE. 
          IT'S A NON-CONFORMING USE, MEANING IT IS OPERATING AS OFFICE USE IN A RESIDENTIAL ZONING DISTRICT. 
          IT HAS THE ASSOCIATED, UH, PARKING SPACES. 
          IT'S BEEN OPERATING AS AN OFFICE USE, PREDATING THE CODE. 
          THIS IS, UM, A VIEW OF THE SIXTH STREET. 
          THIS IS THE SUBJECT, ONE OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY. 
          AND THAT'S ADJACENT TO, UH, RESIDENTIAL USES ALONG THE SIXTH STREET ON THE SEVENTH STREET. 
          THIS IS A COMMERCIAL USE AND ALONG WARD ROAD IS ALL COMMERCIAL ALL THE WAY TO NORTH ALEXANDER ON THE NORTH SIDE, AS WELL AS THE SOUTH SIDE OF WARD ROAD. 
          IN THIS, UH, AREA RIGHT ACROSS FROM THE SUBJECT PROPERTY, THERE IS A MIX OF COMMERCIAL AS WELL AS RESIDENTIAL ON WARDROBE. 
          ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF WARD ROAD, THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO REZONE THE SUBJECT PROPERTIES FROM SF TWO OR MR. TO NEIGHBORHOOD SERVING COMMERCIAL OR NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL. 
          THE, UH, THE CURRENT STATUS OF THE, UH, THE, THE EXISTING STRUCTURE ON 600 WARDROBE IS A NONCONFORMING USE AND IT LIMITS THE APPLICANT, 
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UH, OF, IN EXPANSION. 
          IT LIMITS THE EXPANSION OF THIS NONCONFORMING USE ON A RESIDENTIAL ZONING DISTRICT FOR THE APPLICANT TO, TO DO A REZONING OR, UM, THEY HAVE TO DO A REZONING OR TO BRING THIS PROPERTY INTO, UH, COMPLIANCE BY THE REQUESTED REZONING. 
          THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS WITHIN THE, UH, REVITALIZATION INCENTIVE ZONE AREA, WHICH GIVES BENEFITS TO, UM, TO PROMOTE THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND STIMULATE, UH, PROPERTY VALUES IN THIS AREA. 
          THE APPLICANT WILL BE DISQUALIFIED FOR SUCH BENEFIT SINCE IT'S A NONCONFORMING STATUS FOR THIS, UM, FOR THIS PROPERTY. 
          SO THE APPLICANT WISHES TO EXPAND THE OFFICE USE INTO THOSE TWO PROPERTIES TO COMBINE THOSE TWO LOTS AND, UH, EXPAND THE OFFICE USE IN THE FUTURE. 
          AND THE, UH, REQUESTED REZONING, UH, FROM SF TWO OR MR. TO NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL IS IN CONFORMITY WITH THE INTENT OF THE CODE. 
          IT DOES NOT, UH, IMPACT ADJACENT USES. 
          AND IT'S, UM, IT'S CONSIDERED, UM, IT'S ALSO MEETING THE, THE LOCATION CRITERIA THAT WAS LISTED IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL. 
          ANY QUESTIONS FROM, UH, ANYBODY ON THE BOARD? COMMISSIONERS? YEAH, I HAVE A COUPLE. 
          SO, UM, IF IT'S REZONED, WHAT IS THE SIZE LIMITATION GONNA BE ON THE BUILDING? IF IT'S A NON-CONFORMING USE TO, TO THE NEW, TO THE NEW ZONING? HOW BIG A BUILDING CAN THEY PUT THERE? OH, 5,000 SQUARE FEET MAX. 
          ARE THEY GONNA REQUIRE RETENTION SINCE, NO, BECAUSE THE, THE, THE, THE LOT SIZE IS LESS THAN AN ACRE. 
          IT'S ONLY 10,000 SQUARE FEET, UH, LOTS. 
          SO THEY MAY NOT REQUIRE ANY, UH, DETENTION ON SITE. 
          WOULD THEY BE ABLE TO PUT A BUILDING ACROSS BOTH LOTS WITHOUT REPLANTING THE LOT? THEY WILL HAVE TO DO LOT CONSOLIDATION SINCE EACH LOT IS, UH, IS FLATTED ON ITS OWN. 
          SO WE ALLOWED THEM TO DO LOT CONSOLIDATION IF THE BUILDING WILL CROSS LOT LINES. 
          SO THAT WOULD GIVE 'EM THE 5,000 SQUARE FEET. 
          IF THEY DO 'EM BOTH TOGETHER, THEY, THIS IS THE MAXIMUM? YES. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          YEAH, YOU'RE WELCOME. 
          ONE MORE QUESTION. 
          HAVE Y'ALL HEARD ANYTHING FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD BEHIND THEM? NO. 
          WE DIDN'T GET ANY, UH, OBJECTION FROM ANY ADJACENT NEIGHBOR. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? QUESTIONS? MOTION TO APPROVE. 
          SECOND? YES. 
          ANYONE TO SPEAK? IS THERE ANYONE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK? IS THERE ANYONE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK THIS? THIS IS, IS THAT THE RIGHT ONE? THREE A? YEAH, NOBODY'S, OH, NO, NO. 
          THEY CROSSED IT OUT. 
          OKAY. 
          GO AHEAD AND CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. 
          ALRIGHT, WE'RE GONNA CLOSE THIS PUBLIC, PUBLIC HEARING NOW. 
          UH, SO GRE CHAIRMAN, CAN YOU GIVE MOTION TO APPROVE TIME PLEASE? AND A SECOND. 
          A SECOND. 
          MR. CHAIRMAN, CAN YOU GIVE US A TIME PLEASE TO CLOSE OH 5:19 PM THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          DO YOU NEED TO MAKE A MOTION AGAIN? DO WE NEED, NEED TO MAKE A MOTION AGAIN? I BELIEVE THE MOTION HAS ALREADY BEEN MADE AND SECONDED. 
          SO ALL YOU NEED TO DO NOW IS TO VOTE. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. 
          ANY OPPOSED? WHO WAS THE SECOND MOTION? THANK YOU. 
          SO THE MOTION CARRIES. 
          WIFE SIGNED. 
          OKAY. 
          ALRIGHT, ONTO, 
          [b.  Conduct a public hearing and consider a recommendation regarding the repeal and replacement of the City's Unified Land Development Code (ULDC).]
UH, ITEM THREE B. 
          WE'RE GOING TO CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING REGARDING THE REPEAL AND REPLACEMENT OF THE CITY'S UNIFIED LINE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE ULDC. 
          I'LL OPEN THIS, UH, PUBLIC, PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK THE STAFF TO PLEASE NOTE SUMMERTIME. 
          SUMMARIZE THE ITEM. 
          IF YOU'LL REMEMBER. 
          UM, WE DID DO ONE PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS LAST MONTH, AND WE DID NOT ASK FOR RECOMMENDATION. 
          TONIGHT'S STAFF IS ASKING FOR RECOMMENDATION TO FORWARD TO, UH, CITY COUNCIL FOR, FOR THEIR, UH, CONSIDERATION. 
          OKAY? OKAY. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIRMAN. 
          WELCOME BACK. 
          THANK YOU. 
          GLAD TO SEE YOU BACK. 
          UH, MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION, UH, FOR THE RECORD, RYAN BLOC, ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF PLANNING DEVELOPMENT SERVICES. 
          AS MARTIN MENTIONED, UH, TONIGHT IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND ALSO, UH, WE ARE REQUESTING A RECOMMENDATION TO COUNSEL ON THE UNIFIED LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE UPDATE. 
          I'M GONNA GIVE 
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A BRIEF SUMMARY AGAIN OF KIND OF WHAT THE GOALS ARE, SETTING THE TABLE FOR THE DOCUMENT. 
          UM, AGAIN, WE WANTED OUR, UH, THE NEW UDC TO BE USER FRIENDLY. 
          UH, WE WANT IT TO BE INTUITIVELY ORGANIZED, UH, WHERE IT MADE SENSE OF WHERE THINGS ARE LOCATED CURRENTLY IN OUR CURRENT CODE, THINGS ARE KIND OF SCATTERED THROUGHOUT THE, THE CODE. 
          SO, UM, THIS WOULD HELP, UH, ELIMINATE THAT ISSUE. 
          UH, WE WANT FAIR AND EQUITABLE OUTCOMES, UH, FOR, UH, FOLKS, UH, STRAIGHTFORWARD AND EXPLAINABLE, UH, IN TERMS OF THE, THE WORDING IN THE CODE, RECOGNIZABLE TERMS AND PRACTICES. 
          UM, AND THEN MOST IMPORTANTLY, EFFICIENT, FLEXIBLE, AND PREDICTABLE DEVELOPMENT. 
          UM, AND SO, UH, A QUICK REMINDER OF KIND OF WHERE WE'RE AT. 
          WE ARE, UH, GETTING VERY CLOSE TO THE ADOPTION PHASE OF THIS. 
          UM, WE STARTED THIS ALL THE WAY BACK IN SEPTEMBER OF 2022. 
          SO WE'RE ALMOST TWO YEARS INTO THIS. 
          UM, THERE'S BEEN LOTS OF PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT. 
          AT THE BEGINNING WE HAD FOCUS GROUP PRESENTATIONS. 
          WE HAD A CODE ADVISORY COMMITTEE. 
          WE HAD CITY COUNCIL PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION. 
          UM, WE HAD, UH, LISTENING SESSIONS WITH LOCAL DEVELOPERS, UH, AS WELL, UM, AS WE'VE WENT THROUGH THIS PROCESS. 
          AND, UH, TONIGHT WE ARE, UH, PRETTY CLOSE, UH, HOPEFULLY TO HAVING A DRAFT THAT, UM, YOU ALL CAN MOVE FORWARD TOWARDS COUNCIL. 
          SO KIND OF WHERE ARE WE AT WITH THE PUBLIC HEARING ADOPTION PROCESS? SO YOU ALL HELD, UH, YOUR FIRST, UM, UH, PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS AT YOUR MEETING IN JUNE. 
          UM, WE DID PRESENT THIS ALSO TO THE DEVELOPERS ROUNDTABLE ON, UH, JUNE 26TH. 
          UH, WE ALSO HAD A, UH, SECOND PUBLIC HEARING AT CITY COUNCIL ON, UH, JUNE 27TH. 
          UH, WE HELD A THIRD PUBLIC HEARING AT CITY COUNCIL LAST WEEK ON JULY 11TH. 
          WE ARE HERE THIS EVENING FOR THE FOURTH AND FINAL PUBLIC HEARING AND, UH, REQUESTING, UH, OF ACTION TO A RECOMMENDATION TO, UH, UH, CITY COUNCIL AND THEN A POTENTIAL CITY COUNCIL ADOPTION OF JULY 25TH. 
          THAT IS A LITTLE BIT IN FLUX NOW WITH, UH, SOME OF THE EVENTS THAT HAPPENED, UH, WITH THE HURRICANE LAST WEEK. 
          UM, AND SOME COMMENTS. 
          UM, BUT, UH, JULY 25TH WOULD BE THE FIRST, UH, OPPORTUNITY THAT COUNCIL WOULD HAVE, UH, TO, UH, ADOPT THIS. 
          UM, SO WHAT HAVE WE CHANGED IN THE LAST MONTH? WE'VE MADE LOTS OF CHANGES. 
          UM, SO WE HAVE REVIEWED THE PROPOSED USE TABLE, UH, AGAINST THE CURRENT USE TABLE. 
          AND YOU SEE I INCLUDED THAT IN, UH, Y'ALL'S PACKET. 
          UM, 'CAUSE WE'VE GOTTEN SOME QUESTIONS OF WHAT'S ALLOWED IN MIXED USE VERSUS THE MIXED USE NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          UH, WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN GENERAL COMMERCIAL AND FREEWAY COMMERCIAL. 
          UM, SO INCLUDED THAT IN THERE. 
          UH, WE HAVE DONE THE MAPPING, UH, FOR THE FIRST, UH, PROPOSAL FOR THE DOWNTOWN ARTS DISTRICT AND SAN JACINTO SUBDISTRICTS. 
          UM, AND WE HAVE BEEN MEETING, UM, AND HEARING PEOPLE'S, UH, COMMENTS, UM, MEETING WITH, UH, CONCERNED PROPERTY OWNERS, UH, REGARDING THE DRAFT. 
          AND WE'VE MADE SOME CHANGES TO ADDRESS THOSE CONCERNS. 
          SO HERE'S A, A LIST OF SOME MAJOR CHANGES THAT HAVE MADE FROM THE, UH, PREVIOUS DRAFT. 
          AND I APOLOGIZE, THAT'S A LITTLE SMALLER THAN I EXPECTED, SO I'LL KIND OF GO THROUGH IT REAL QUICK. 
          UH, WE ADDED A GROCERY OR DRUGSTORE USE CATEGORY. 
          UM, OFFICE IS A PERMITTED USE WITHIN THE MIXED USE NEIGHBORHOOD ZONING DISTRICT. 
          WE'VE REMOVED MOTEL FROM THE USE DIS UH, LIST. 
          WE ONLY WOULD BE PERMITTING HOTELS, WHICH IS IN LINE WITH WHAT OUR CURRENT CODE, UM, PERMITS. 
          UM, WE WOULD BE REQUIRING A SPECIAL USE PERMIT FOR MOTELS WITHIN, UH, THE MIXED USE NEIGHBORHOOD DISTRICT. 
          AND WE WOULD NOT BE PERMITTING THOSE WITHIN THE, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL DISTRICT. 
          UH, REMOVING A BIG BOX RETAIL FROM THE MIXED USE NEIGHBORHOOD DISTRICT, REMOVING THE WORD DISCOUNT FROM SMALL BOX DISCOUNT RETAIL. 
          UM, WE ARE LOOKING AT IT AGAIN FROM A LAND USE, UH, STANDPOINT. 
          I KNOW THERE WAS SOME CONCERNS A COUPLE YEARS AGO OF, OF, UH, SOME OF THESE SMALL BOX DISCOUNT RETAILERS LIKE A FAMILY DOLLAR OR DOLLAR GENERAL OR THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          BUT FROM A LAND USE STANDPOINT, A DOLLAR GENERAL HAS VERY SIMILAR TRAFFIC IMPACTS AND, UH, SIMILAR IMPACTS TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD AS, UM, YOU KNOW, A A SMALL GROCERY STORE. 
          AND SO, UM, WE WANTED TO STRIP THAT OUT OF THERE. 
          AND SO WE HAVE REMOVED THAT. 
          UM, REMOVED, UH, TRAVEL CENTERS FROM GENERAL COMMERCIAL REMOVED VEHICLE SERVICE AND REPAIRS FROM THE MIXED USE NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          UM, INCREASE THE DEFINITION AND ANY CONDITIONS OF MICRO MANUFACTURING TO INCREASE IT TO 10,000 SQUARE FEET, UM, FROM THE 5,000 SQUARE FEET THAT WAS IN THE ORIGINAL DRAFT. 
          IS THAT WHAT YOU GUYS REFER TO AS THE TINY HOUSES? I'M SORRY? IS THAT WHAT YOU REFER TO AS THE TINY HOUSES? NO, MICRO MANUFACTURING WOULD BE, UH, IT'S WHAT WE CALL RIGHT NOW IN OUR CODE. 
          I BELIEVE IT'S, UM, CUSTOM MANUFACTURING. 
          SO IT'S THAT SMALL KIND OF ARTISANAL MANUFACTURING COMMISSIONERS. 
          WE'D ASK THAT, UM, IF YOU COULD KIND OF WE'RE, WE'RE GONNA GET THROUGH THE STAFF PRESENTATION AND THEN WE WILL HAVE PLENTY OF TIME FOR QUESTIONS. 
          UM, ALLOWING FOR CONTRACTOR SHOPS AND OR SERVICE YARDS IN, UH, MIXED USE NEIGHBORHOOD WITH CONDITIONS ALLOWING FOR APARTMENTS IN FREEWAY COMMERCIAL, UH, REQUIRING AN SUP 
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FOR RV PARKS IN FREEWAY COMMERCIAL, ALLOWING WAREHOUSING IN FREEWAY COMMERCIAL WITH SOME CONDITIONS, ALLOWING DRIVE IN AND DRIVE THROUGH RESTAURANTS IN MIXED USE NEIGHBORHOOD WITH CONDITIONS AND ALLOWING FOR TRUCK PARKING WITH CONDITIONS IN FREEWAY COMMERCIAL. 
          RYAN, DO YOU MIND IF I MAKE A CLARIFICATION? PLEASE? ONE OF THOSE ITEMS ABOUT HALFWAY DOWN THE LIST, YOU SEE REMOVE TRAVEL CENTER FROM GENERAL COMMERCIAL. 
          THAT IS TO ACTUALLY REMOVE IT FROM GENERAL COMMERCIAL AND PUT IT INTO FREEWAY COMMERCIAL. 
          MM-HMM . 
          WHERE IT THANK YOU. 
          KIND OF WHERE THE, THE CONDITIONS RIGHT NOW. 
          THAT'S, THAT IS WHERE IT BELONGS. 
          MM-HMM . 
          THANK YOU. 
          THAT'S, THAT'S A GOOD POINT. 
          UM, SO WHAT YOU SEE ON THE SCREEN HERE IS THE FIRST BLUSH AT, UM, OUR SUBDISTRICTS. 
          UM, SO YOU SEE THE, THE, THE PURPLE COLOR THAT YOU SEE IN THE MIDDLE HERE. 
          THIS WOULD BE THE MAIN STREET, UM, UH, WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT, WHICH IS WHERE YOU HAVE THE STOREFRONTS CLOSER TO THE STREET. 
          UM, YOU HAVE, UM, A LITTLE BIT OF YOUR, UH, UH, LESS, UH, RESIDENTIAL LESS THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          AND THEN WHAT YOU SEE IN THE BLUE AND THE, THE DARKER PURPLE HERE WOULD BE THE FLEX ZONE. 
          UM, SO AGAIN, BASICALLY FOLLOWING TEXAS AVENUE, AND THEN ALONG MAIN STREET IS WHERE YOU WOULD SEE THE MAIN STREET SUBDISTRICT. 
          AND THEN EVERYWHERE ELSE IN DOWNTOWN WOULD BE THE FLEX, THE SAN JACINTO THREE. 
          THERE IT GOES. 
          UM, THERE ARE THREE SUBDISTRICTS IN THIS. 
          THE BLUE IS THE LARGEST ONE THAT IS THE FLEX AREA AS WELL. 
          SO AGAIN, WHERE WE WOULD ALLOW FOR MORE RESIDENTIAL, UM, WE WOULD, IT STILL WOULD REQUIRE, UH, PEDESTRIAN FRIENDLY, UM, OR A PEDESTRIAN, UM, INFRASTRUCTURE, THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          THIS PINK IS, UH, SET ASIDE AS A FUTURE MAIN STREET AREA. 
          UH, AGAIN, UH, THE SAN JACINTO AREA IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY THERE'S NOTHING OUT THERE. 
          UM, BUT THIS, UH, KIND OF NORTHWEST CORNER OF HUNT ROAD AND SAN JACINTO BOULEVARD HAS KIND OF BEEN IDENTIFIED AS WHERE, UM, IF THERE'S GONNA BE A MAIN STREET OR TOWN SQUARE TYPE FEEL IN, IN THAT DISTRICT, THAT IS WHERE IT WOULD BE LOCATED. 
          AND THEN THIS GREEN AT THE TOP IS SAN JACINTO THREE, WHICH IS GONNA BE MORE OF YOUR AUTO ORIENTED, UH, UM, BUSINESSES. 
          AND AGAIN, THAT IS CLOSER ALONG TO I 10, WHERE IT MAKES A LITTLE BIT MORE SENSE. 
          UH, YOU HAVE BUCKY'S, YOU HAVE SOME OF THE RESTAURANTS AND THE OUT LOTS THERE ALONG I 10. 
          UM, SO THESE WOULD BE USES THAT WOULD, UM, AGAIN, BE A LITTLE BIT MORE AUTO ORIENTED. 
          AGAIN, THIS IS JUST, UH, AN INITIAL DRAFT ON IT. 
          UM, A FEW CHANGES WOULD NEED TO BE MADE, UH, SPLITTING SOME OF THE PARCELS AND THINGS LIKE THAT IN HERE. 
          UH, BUT AGAIN, THIS IS, UH, TO KIND OF GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF, OF WHERE STAFF IS THINKING IN TERMS OF WHAT THE ZONING FOR THAT AREA WOULD LOOK LIKE. 
          THERE WE GO. 
          SO, UH, AGAIN, AS I'VE MENTIONED, PUBLIC INPUT'S BEEN A VERY, UH, BEEN ONE OF OUR MAIN FOCUSES REALLY, UM, FOR ABOUT THE LAST TWO AND A HALF MONTHS NOW. 
          UM, WE HAD AN OPEN HOUSE. 
          WE DID A LIBRARY OPEN HOUSE WHERE WE HAD POSTERS AND INVITED THE PUBLIC TO COME OUT, TAKE A LOOK AT THOSE POSTERS. 
          HAD THAT FOR ABOUT TWO WEEKS. 
          UH, WE HAVE THE DEVELOPERS ROUND TABLE. 
          WE HAVE OUR BAYTOWN ENGAGE PAGE, WHICH IS BEING CONTINUOUSLY UPDATED WITH NEWER, UH, UPDATES OF THE, UM, OF THE CODE AS WE, UH, WORK THROUGH THAT AS WELL AS THE MAP. 
          UM, WE'VE HELD FOUR PUBLIC HEARINGS AND WE'VE DONE INDIVIDUAL MEETINGS WITH, UH, PROPERTY OWNERS THAT HAVE REQUESTED IT. 
          SO, UM, WE ARE REALLY TRYING TO, UM, ENSURE THAT WE'RE HEARING PEOPLE'S CONCERNS AND, UH, AND MAKING SURE THAT WE, WE GET THIS RIGHT, UM, AS RIGHT AS WE CAN OUT OF THE GATE. 
          AND WITH THAT, I'M GONNA HAVE ANOTHER SHAMELESS PLUG FOR OUR, UH, OUR, UH, BAYTOWN ENGAGE PAGE. 
          IF FOLKS HAVE NOT HAD A CHANCE TO GO THERE, I WOULD, UH, STRONGLY RECOMMEND THEY GO THERE. 
          IT HAS ALL THE INFORMATION THAT YOU'D POSSIBLY WANT ABOUT THE CODE, UM, THAT IS ON THERE. 
          YOU CAN SCAN THE QR CODE OR VISIT THAT, AND THAT WILL BE UP, UM, REALLY PROBABLY THROUGH THE REST OF THIS PROCESS. 
          SO, UM, WE'LL, WE ARE WRAPPING UP THE PUBLIC A PORTION OF THIS, BUT AGAIN, ONCE IT GOES TO COUNCIL, THERE'LL STILL BE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE PUBLIC TO, UM, STILL GIVE THEIR FEEDBACK TO COUNCIL. 
          UM, OUR CONSULTANT IS ON THE PHONE AS WELL, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. 
          BUT WITH THAT, I WILL STEP ASIDE AND ANSWER ANY ALL'S QUESTIONS Y'ALL MAY HAVE. 
          I I WOULD ALSO ADD THAT, UM, ONCE THIS UPDATE IS ADOPTED BY CITY COUNCIL, WE WOULD EXPECT THIS TO UNDERGO SOME, SOME TWEAKING OVER THE NEXT YEAR TO TWO YEARS. 
          IT'S VERY SUBSTANTIAL, IT'S VERY COMPREHENSIVE. 
          SO WE TRY TO HIT EVERYTHING WE CAN UPFRONT, BUT WE WILL, WE WILL SORT OF TEST SOME THINGS OUT AS WE GO AND SEE WHAT THINGS WORK, WHAT THINGS DON'T WORK, AND WE'LL COME BACK TO YOU WITH ANY CHANGES, UH, THAT WE MIGHT SEE OVER, LIKE I SAID, OVER THE NEXT PROBABLY COUPLE OF YEARS. 
          SO WE DO INTEND FOR THIS TO BE A LIVING DOCUMENT, SOMETHING THAT WILL CHANGE OVER TIME, BUT HOPEFULLY WE'RE GETTING IT CLOSER TO WHERE IT NEEDS TO BE THAN WHAT OUR CURRENT CODE IS. 
          THANK YOU. 
          MARK, ANY, UH, QUESTIONS BY THE COMMISSIONERS ON THIS? ON THE SAN JACINTO 
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THREE PAGE? WHAT IS THE BLUE AREA AGAIN? SO THAT IS THE FLEX AREA. 
          FLEX? MM-HMM . 
          THANK YOU. 
          FLEX INCLUDES SQUARE TOWN SQUARE. 
          THE MEETING PLEASE. 
          CORRECT. 
          I'M SORRY. 
          FLEX, LIKE YOU SAID, IT WOULD BE LIKE A TOWN SQUARE AREA. 
          LIKE, UH, SO THAT'S THE MAIN STREET. 
          THE MAIN STREET AREA WOULD BE, UM, WOULD BE, UM, WHERE THE TOWN SQUARE AREA WOULD BE. 
          WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING IN, IN THE FLEX WOULD BE LARGER BUILDINGS, UH, PROBABLY MORE OFFICE TYPE BUILDINGS, UM, AS WELL AS, UM, RESIDENTIAL THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          SO AS A GENERAL COMMENT, GIVEN THAT A SIGNIFICANT PORTION OF OUR COMMUNITY IS STILL DEALING WITH HURRICANE, NO POWER, NO INTERNET, NO CABLE TV, AND MAY NOT HAVE ACCESS TO THIS DATA AND GO IN THE PROCESS, YOU THINK IT MIGHT BEHOOVE US TO, UH, MAY BE SCHEDULED ANOTHER PUBLIC HEARINGS, BUT THEY ALLOWED THEM SOME TIME. 
          UH, I HAD VERY LIMITED INTERNET. 
          IN FACT, I DIDN'T GET TO GO THROUGH MUCH OF THIS DOCUMENT THE LAST WEEK. 
          I HAD VERY LIMITED INTERNET THROUGH THE WHOLE WHOLE TIME, UH, EVEN THE WEEK BEFORE THE HURRICANE. 
          OUR COMCAST WAS UP AND DOWN IN THAT PROCESS. 
          SO THAT'S JUST A COMMENT. 
          UM, IN THE ORIGINAL PRESENTATIONS, THERE WAS CONVERSATIONS ABOUT TINY HOMES. 
          IS THAT STILL IN THE ALLOW AND, AND THE, THE, UH, UH, IN THE PROPOSED CODE? AND IF SO, WHAT IS THE DEFINITION OF A TINY HOME? YES. 
          SO A TINY HOME, UH, YES, THOSE ARE STILL PERMITTED. 
          UH, THEY WOULD BE PERMITTED IN WHAT WE ARE CALLING THE ALTERNATIVE RESIDENTIAL OR WHAT WE CURRENTLY CALL THE URBAN NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, ZONE. 
          UM, AND SO THAT WOULD BE, UH, HOMES THAT ARE, I BELIEVE IT'S UP TO 400 SQUARE FEET. 
          UM, STILL WOULD HAVE TO BE ON, UH, A PERMANENT FOUNDATION. 
          UM, OR IF IT'S ON A CHASSIS, IT'D HAVE TO BE PERMANENTLY MOUNTED TO THE GROUND. 
          IT STILL HAVE TO BE, UH, BUILT TO, UH, OUR BUILDING CODES AND EVERYTHING. 
          UM, IT JUST GIVES AN OPTION FOR A LITTLE BIT OF A SMALLER HOME FOR FOLKS. 
          UM, AS WELL AS, UH, WHAT, UH, A CONCEPT THAT WE'RE CALLING COTTAGE COURTS, WHICH WOULD BE KIND OF WHAT YOU WOULD IMAGINE SMALLER HOMES, UM, ON ONE PIECE OF PROPERTY WITH A COMMON AREA, UM, UH, FOR, FOR THE RESIDENTS. 
          SO YES, WE ARE STILL PROPOSING THAT AS AN OPTION FOR THE DEVELOPERS. 
          UM, BUT AGAIN, THAT'S NOT A REQUIREMENT, BUT IT'S, IT, IT IS, UH, ALLOWING FOLKS TO HAVE THAT OPTION. 
          KEEP IN MIND THAT TINY HOMES ARE ALLOWED NOW BECAUSE WE DO NOT HAVE A MINIMUM SQUARE FOOTAGE REQUIREMENT FOR STRUCTURE. 
          SO YOU COULD DO IT. 
          NOW. 
          THE, WHAT THE, THE NEW CODE REALLY ENVISIONS IS THAT IF YOU WANTED TO DO SAY A, UM, WHAT IT'S CALLED, THE COTTAGE COURT, A COTTAGE COURT, IF YOU WANTED TO DO A SUBDIVISION OF THEM, OF SAY A DOZEN OR TWO DOZEN OR WHATEVER, THEN YOU WOULD HAVE, UM, OTHER OPTIONS, MORE FLEXIBILITY IN ORDER TO DO THAT. 
          OTHERWISE, IT JUST, THE, THE, UM, THE ABILITY TO BUILD ONE, IT'S, IT DOESN'T CHANGE FROM OUR CURRENT CODE. 
          SO, BUT THAT WOULDN'T PROHIBIT SOMEBODY FROM COMING IN AND PUTTING A 400 SQUARE FOOT, UH, STRUCTURE ONE BY ITSELF ON A PIECE OF PROPERTY THEY OWN. 
          IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT. 
          WHICH, WHICH IS IN LINE WITH TODAY'S CODE AS WELL? YES, I, I HAD MENTIONED BEFORE, I, I REALLY DON'T LIKE THIS TRANSITION WE'RE SEEING IN THE COMMUNITY OF JUST SEEING HOW MUCH WE CAN CRAM ONTO A PIECE OF PROPERTY IN THESE NEIGHBORHOODS. 
          IT'S KIND OF GETTING OUTTA HAND. 
          SO I DON'T LIKE THE TINY HOME ASPECT. 
          I'M NOT REAL FOND OF THE COTTAGE EITHER. 
          AND THE PROCESS, WERE THERE ANY CHANGES TO SETBACKS? NO, WE'VE NOT DONE ANY CHANGES TO SETBACKS. 
          OKAY. 
          SO WE'RE LEAVING THOSE AT THE 15 FOOT AND WHATEVER, CORRECT. 
          THAT'S THE FRONT, FRONT SETBACKS. 
          YEAH. 
          AND THE SIDE SETBACKS FROM BETWEEN HOUSES IS FIVE FEET. 
          AND YES, I BELIEVE A COUPLE OF THE ZONING DISTRICTS, IT IS, SOME OF THEM ARE LITTLE LARGER ONE, JUST PACK THEM IN THERE IN THE PROCESS. 
          THOSE SETBACKS ALSO, THOSE REFER TO PRETTY MUCH ANY STRUCTURE EXCEPT FOR A FENCE. 
          MM-HMM . 
          SO IF YOU WANTED A SHED, IT COULD BE WITHIN FIVE FEET, BUT YES, YOU COULD ALSO HAVE A HOUSE, UH, UP TO THAT SETBACK LINE AS WELL. 
          YEAH, WE'VE GOT A COUPLE OF THOSE IN REAL. 
          I'M NOT SURE HOW THEY MOVE BETWEEN THE HOUSES, QUITE FRANKLY. 
          I'M GETTING LAWNMOWERS THROUGH THERE. 
          UM, THAT'S ALL MY COMMENTS. 
          I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE WAREHOUSES ON THE FREEWAY. 
          CAN YOU GIVE A LITTLE BIT MORE CLARIFICATION OF THAT? BECAUSE I KNOW THAT WE HAD TRANSITIONED TO SPECIAL USE PERMITS NOW THAT IT'S NOT REALLY LOOKING LIKE THAT. 
          SO WE LOOKED AT WHERE, I MEAN, WHAT IT COMES DOWN TO IS THAT WHERE, WHERE WE ARE LOCATED WAREHOUSES ARE GOING TO BE A POPULAR. 
          UM, AND, AND, AND THE MARKET IS GOING TO, TO SAY THAT THIS IS A PLACE WHERE WAREHOUSES WOULD BE. 
          SO WE TRIED TO LOOK AT WHERE IT WOULD MAKE SENSE TO PUT WAREHOUSES. 
          AND GENERALLY IT DOES MAKE THE MOST SENSE TO PLACE THEM ALONG THE FREEWAY AREAS. 
          AND SO WE ARE, UH, PROPOSING THAT, UM, WAREHOUSES WOULD BE PERMITTED THERE, BUT THERE WOULD BE LIMITATIONS. 
          THERE WOULD BE, UM, UH, SUBSTANTIAL SETBACKS THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE DONE LOADING DOCKS WOULD HAVE TO BE ORIENTED AWAY FROM, UM, THE, UH, THE, THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY. 
          UM, 
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LANDSCAPING, THINGS LIKE THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE, UM, INSTALLED AS WELL. 
          SO, UM, AGAIN, THAT, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE HEARD FROM, UM, SOME OF THE DEVELOPERS, UM, THAT THEY, THAT THERE NEEDS TO BE A PLACE SOMEWHERE IN BAYTOWN FOR THEM. 
          AND SO, UM, THAT IS, THAT IS WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING AT THIS POINT. 
          UM, IT WILL BE UP TO, TO COUNSEL IF, IF, UH, THEY, THEY GO, THEY MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT IDEA OR NOT. 
          AND, AND I THINK WOULD STILL, UM, REQUIRE THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT AS WELL. 
          SO CAN WE GET SOME CLARIFICATION ON THAT OR IF THAT CAN, WHEN IT GOES TO COUNSEL, IF THEY CAN BE PROVIDED CLARIFICATION ON WHETHER OR NOT, BECAUSE I MEAN, I GET IT AND LISTEN TO DEVELOPERS AND THAT'S THE MONEY AND BRINGING IT INTO OUR CITY, BUT IF YOU ALSO LISTEN TO OUR COMMUNITY, THEY ARE NOT KEEN ON THE IDEA OF THE FACE OF OUR CITY TO BE ANY MORE WAREHOUSES. 
          AND SO TO SAY THAT THAT IS IT, IT, I FEEL LIKE WE'RE GOING BACKWARDS WITH THE PROGRESS THAT WAS RECENTLY MADE WITH THE WAREHOUSE RESTRICTIONS. 
          MM-HMM . 
          THIS IS, THIS, THIS JUST IS, I DON'T KNOW. 
          UM, AND I, I HAD, I WANTED ANOTHER CLARIFICATION ON, WE TALKED ABOUT THE, THE HYBRID TYPE NEIGHBORHOODS AND WHAT HAVE YOU, WOULD, THAT WOULD INCLUDE APARTMENTS BEING IN, I KNOW THAT TOWNHOUSES AND THINGS LIKE THAT WOULD BE ABLE TO BE A PART OF THESE NEIGHBORHOODS. 
          WOULD THAT ALSO OPEN IT UP FOR ACTUAL APARTMENT BUILDINGS? NO, IT WOULD NOT. 
          IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT MIXED USE NEIGHBORHOOD, THE MUN ZONING DISTRICT, IT WOULD NOT PERMIT APARTMENTS IN THERE. 
          SO YOU WOULD ONLY BE ALLOWED TO DO DUPLEXES, UH, POTENTIALLY MULTIPLEXES UP TO THREE OR FOUR, LIKE A, LIKE A QUADPLEX OR TRIPLEX. 
          UM, BUT NOTHING, UH, MORE, UH, SUBSTANTIAL THAN THAT. 
          SO NO, WE ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT LIKE APARTMENTS. 
          UM, BEING IN, IN THE RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS, WERE, WERE YOU WERE USING OF THE, UM, NOW I'M TRYING TO REMEMBER WHAT IT'S CALLED, I THINK IS IT CALLED THE HYBRID, UM, SUBDIVISION TYPE OR A HYBRID? AND IT, AND IT HAS HOUSES AND IT ALSO HAS THOSE FOUR TYPES DO IT HAS THE ALL DIFFERENT KINDS OF HOUSING STYLES. 
          MM-HMM . 
          THAT, THAT, SO AGAIN, THAT IS ONLY GOING TO ALLOW WHAT'S ALLOWED BY THE ZONING. 
          SO BY THE ZONING DISTRICT, I SHOULD SAY. 
          MM-HMM . 
          SO THIS IS A STYLE OF SUBDIVISION THAT WOULD ALLOW FOR CERTAIN LOT SIZES AND THINGS THAT MIGHT BE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT. 
          BUT THE, THE USES THAT ARE ALLOWED ARE STILL GOING TO BE DICTATED BY THE DISTRICTS, WHICH RYAN WAS JUST TALKING ABOUT THE MIXED USE NEIGHBORHOOD, WHICH IS NOT GOING TO ALLOW FOR APARTMENT BUILDINGS, IF THAT HELPS AT ALL. 
          OR DID I MAKE IT MORE CONFUSING ? I, I, I THINK SO. 
          I MEAN, I, I LOVED ALL THE DIFFERENT STYLES OF NEIGHBORHOODS THAT WERE THERE THAT WERE PRESENTED TO, TO KIND OF MIX IT UP IN AND WHAT HAVE YOU. 
          I, I GUESS, BUT I JUST, I QUESTION A BIG APARTMENT COMPLEX IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD, YOU KNOW, WHERE I'D THINK A FOUNTAIN WOULD BE PRETTIER . 
          BUT BECAUSE, AND IT GOES BACK TO THIS STACKING THE HOUSES ON TOP OF EACH OTHER, WHAT CAN WE DO? SO, I MEAN, IF WE OPEN THIS UP FOR DEVELOPERS WITH MIXED STYLE LIVING,  IT WITHIN IT, AND I KNOW THAT THERE WAS LIKE A PERCENTAGE THAT WAS MENTIONED, YOU CAN'T HAVE MORE THAN A CERTAIN PERCENTAGE. 
          I MEAN, HELP ME WITH THIS, YOU KNOW, IT BETTER THAN I, SO, SO YEAH, TO, TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, SO I, I PULLED UP THE USE TABLE. 
          UM, SO WHERE YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO ACTUALLY HAVE, UH, APARTMENTS WOULD BE IN OUR URBAN NEIGHBORHOOD, UM, WHICH IS WHAT WE CURRENTLY CALL OUR MF TWO, MF THREE, WHICH IS WHERE WE ALLOW FOR APARTMENTS NOW. 
          UM, AND THEN ALSO IN, UH, THE DOWNTOWN FLEX AREA, UH, AS WELL AS THE SAN JACINTO FLEX AREA GENERAL COMMERCIAL AND FREEWAY COMMERCIAL. 
          SO NOT IN ANY OF THE OTHER RESIDENTIAL AREAS, NOT IN THE MIXED USE NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          SO AGAIN, WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT IN THE MIXED USE AREAS. 
          WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT A, A, A LARGE AMOUNT OF, OF DENSITY. 
          UM, WE WOULD BE TALKING ABOUT, UH, MOSTLY WOULD BE YOUR SINGLE FAMILY ATTACHED, YOUR TOWN HOMES, YOUR DUPLEXES, THOSE TYPE OF THINGS. 
          I, I WAS JUST WANTING TO CLARIFY THAT THERE WOULD NOT BE AN APARTMENT COMPLEX WITHIN THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS. 
          THAT IS, THAT IS CORRECT. 
          THE, THE, WHAT YOU SEE ON THERE, THAT IS WHAT DICTATES WHAT WOULD BE ALLOWED THE, UM, THE USE TABLE THERE. 
          SO, OKAY. 
          AND I JUST HAVE ONE LAST QUESTION. 
          YOU HAD MENTIONED BEFORE, MARTIN, UM, IN A MEETING SEVERAL MONTHS AGO ABOUT SPECIAL USE PERMITS AND THEM NO LONGER HAVING OR IN, IN THE ULDC UPDATE THAT THEY WOULD NO LONGER HAVE AN EXPIRATION DATE PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENTS. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          SO PLAN, IS THAT STILL THE CASE? THE 
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PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENTS WOULD NOT HAVE AN EXPIRATION DATE? THAT IS CORRECT. 
          SPECIAL USE PERMITS CURRENTLY, I BELIEVE HAVE A TWO YEAR TO DO SOMETHING ON IT. 
          YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          TWO YEAR EXPIRATION TO GET SOME SORT OF A PERMIT FOR THAT, UM, THAT WILL STAY THE SAME. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU, SIR. 
          WHAT IS OUR THINKING ABOUT THE PEDS MARTIN AND, AND NO EXPIRATION DATE IN THE PAST? UM, SO WE JUST REMOVED THAT EXPIRATION FROM PUDS IN THE CURRENT CODE. 
          AND AS PART OF THAT PROCESS, IT REALLY, IT KIND OF STARTED WITH THE INDUSTRIAL PUDS THAT WE DID LAST YEAR, WHERE WE SAID, OKAY, IF THE PUD IS AN OVERLAY ZONE AND WHATEVER IS UNDERNEATH THAT, THAT UNDER THAT UNDERLYING ZONING, IF YOUR PUD EXPIRES, THEN YOU NO LONGER HAVE THE PROTECTIONS OR THE, THE ENHANCED DEVELOPMENT REQUIREMENTS THAT MADE THAT PUD SOMETHING WORTHWHILE IN THE FIRST PLACE. 
          AND SO YOU JUST GO BACK TO WHATEVER THAT UNDERLYING ZONING IS. 
          SO THEN YOU DON'T HAVE THOSE, THOSE EXTRAS THAT YOU, YOU KNOW, THAT THE CITY WAS REQUIRING FOR THAT, THAT ZONING IN THE FIRST PLACE WITH, UM, UM, AND WITH THE INDUSTRIAL ONE, THAT MEANS IT WOULD JUST GO TO INDUSTRIAL, WHICH WE DON'T WANT THAT. 
          THE WHOLE IDEA OF DOING AN INDUSTRIAL PUD WAS SO THAT IT DIDN'T JUST HAVE INDUSTRIAL ON IT, IT HAD ENHANCED DEVELOPMENT REQUIREMENTS IN A RESIDENTIAL OR MIXED PUD. 
          IT'S THE SAME IDEA. 
          BUT THE OTHER PART OF THAT TOO IS THAT THE PUDS IN THE NEW CODE ARE NO LONGER GOING TO BE AN OVERLAY. 
          THEY'RE NOW GOING TO BE THEIR OWN DISTRICT WITH ALL THOSE UNDERLYING ZONING REQUIREMENTS EMBEDDED IN THAT PUD. 
          SO AGAIN, HAVING THAT EXPIRE, YOU LOOK AT IT AND GO, OKAY, WHAT IS, WHAT IS THE ZONE NOW? WE DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT IT IS AT THAT POINT. 
          SO IT JUST, IT DIDN'T MAKE A LOT OF SENSE, ESPECIALLY WITH, UM, AND WE REALLY, IN THE, IN THE PLANNING WORLD, WE STARTED TO SEE THESE UPS AND DOWNS WITH THE RECESSION BACK IN OH 8, 0 9, WHERE YOU'D SEE THESE EXPIRATIONS ON SOMETHING THAT WE SPENT A LOT OF TIME NEGOTIATING FOR, OKAY, YOU GET TO LOWER THIS REQUIREMENT, BUT WE'RE GOING TO INCREASE THIS OTHER REQUIREMENT TO MAKE UP FOR IT SO THAT WE'RE GETTING SOMETHING, EVERYBODY'S, YOU KNOW, GETTING SOMETHING OUT OF IT. 
          AND THEN WE'D GET TO TWO YEARS AND THEY'D GO, WELL, THE ECONOMY HAS BEEN REALLY BAD, SO WE, WE ARE NOT ABLE TO MAKE OUR NUMBERS PENCIL, SO WE'RE NOT GONNA, WE'RE NOT MOVING FORWARD WITH THIS, BUT WE STILL WANT TO, AND IT MAY TAKE ANOTHER YEAR, ANOTHER TWO, ANOTHER THREE. 
          WE'VE SEEN THAT HERE AS WELL, IN FACT IN THE LAST COUPLE YEARS. 
          AND WHAT OUR CURRENT CODE SAYS IS YOU GET TO EXTEND IT ONE TIME FOR 12 MONTHS. 
          SO IF YOU GET TO THE END OF THREE YEARS, ALL THAT WORK THAT WE ALL DID TO NEGOTIATE THE, THE BETTER QUALITY DEVELOPMENT GOES OUT THE WINDOW, AND YOU GOTTA START OVER. 
          IF IT WAS GOOD THREE YEARS AGO, IT'S STILL GONNA BE GOOD IN ANOTHER YEAR AFTER THAT OR TWO YEARS. 
          AND IF NOT, THEN THEY HAVE TO COME BACK THROUGH THE REZONE PROCESS AND, AND START OVER ANYWAY. 
          SO IT SEEMED LIKE AN EXTRA PIECE OF RED TAPE THAT WE COULD JUST GET RID OF. 
          AND THEN AGAIN, IF SOMETHING CHANGES, THEN WE GOTTA GO BACK THROUGH THE SAME PROCESS. 
          SO THAT, THAT'S KIND OF WHAT THE THOUGHT WAS. 
          DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? MM-HMM . 
          UH, I THINK BACK TO THE WAREHOUSING ISSUE, WE HAVE LIMITED FREEWAY SPACE. 
          AND TO THINK THAT WE WANNA FILL THAT UP WITH WAREHOUSING IS APL DEPLORABLE, I'M SORRY. 
          BUT IT IS, UH, IT MAKES US LOOK LIKE CHANNEL VIEW AT SOME POINT. 
          AND DON'T THINK THAT ALL OF THESE WAREHOUSES THAT ARE BEING BUILT ARE GONNA LOOK LIKE THEY DO WHEN THEY'RE BUILT 10 YEARS FROM NOW. 
          SO 10 YEARS FROM NOW, THE ENTRANCE OF BAYTOWN WILL NOT BE ATTRACTIVE AT ALL. 
          IT'LL BE FULL OF WAREHOUSING. 
          WE NEED TO RETHINK THAT. 
          IT'S SERIOUS, AND WE'VE GOT ALL THAT WE NEED RIGHT NOW AND VERY LITTLE SPACE LEFT FOR RETAIL DEVELOPMENT. 
          SO, MAY I ASK A QUESTION ABOUT THE PUZ? WOULD IT BE RIGHT TO SAY THAT, UM, THE PUD REQUIREMENTS IN THE ZONING THAT GOES WITH IT? CAN YOU SPEAK UP A LITTLE BIT? OH, AND TO THE DENTIST IN CASE YOU CAN, OH, SORRY. 
          WOO . 
          UM, THE PUD REQUIREMENTS GO WITH THE DEVELOPER, NOT NECESSARILY THE PARCEL OF LAND. 
          SO IF HE WANTED TO SELL IT, THAT'S INCORRECT. 
          IT, IT GOES WITH THE LAND. 
          IT'S A ZONING DISTRICT. 
          IT'S A ZONING ZONING DISTRICT. 
          OKAY. 
          IT'S A ZONING DISTRICT. 
          SO IT BASICALLY CREATES A NEW ZONING ORDINANCE FOR THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY. 
          OKAY. 
          VERY GOOD. 
          THANK YOU. 
          MM-HMM . 
          THANK YOU. 
          ANY OTHER COMMENTS, QUESTIONS BY THE COMMISSIONERS? I, I HAVE SOME. 
          UM, THE LAST TIME WE GOT TOGETHER IN THIS ROOM, AND YOU GUYS DID THAT GREAT PRESENTATION WITH COUNSEL AND, AND US, AN ORGANIC CONVERSATION KIND OF ERUPTED ABOUT THE HOA. 
          SO I WAS A LITTLE BIT CONCERNED ABOUT WHAT I HEARD IN THOSE COMMENTS. 
          UM, BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY IF WE ARE REQUIRING PEOPLE TO DO THIS BEAUTIFICATION AND HAVE THESE NEIGHBORHOODS AESTHETICALLY APPEALING, I DO AGREE WITH STAFF THAT SOMEBODY HAS 
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TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT. 
          SO, AND I WANNA APOLOGIZE IN ADVANCE. 
          WE WEREN'T INSTRUCTED TO SEND AN EMAIL AND I DIDN'T, SO I AM SORRY. 
          I DID NOT FOLLOW INSTRUCTIONS . 
          SO SORRY ABOUT THAT. 
          UM, BUT I AM INTERESTED TO KNOW WHAT THE CONVERSATION IS AROUND THAT AND, AND, AND HOW WE ARE GOING TO PROTECT THE REQUIRED BEAUTIFICATION . 
          YOU'VE HAD MORE CONVERSATIONS WITH COUNSEL ON THAT ONE. 
          SO, UM, I, I THINK IF, IF THE, SO I'LL BE HONEST WITH YOU, THAT WAS THE COMMENT THAT WE GOT AT THE WORK SESSION THAT WE'VE NOT REALLY HAD FURTHER CONVERSATIONS ON BECAUSE IT'S, THAT'S THE STANDARD FOR DEVELOPMENT NOW IN TEXAS OR OTHERWISE, IS IF YOU HAVE A NEW SUBDIVISION AND YOU HAVE ANY OPEN SPACE AT ALL, WHICH THEY ALL DO 'CAUSE THEY'RE REQUIRED TO, YOU HAVE TO HAVE AN ORGANIZATION, A CENTRALIZED ORGANIZATION THAT HANDLES MAINTENANCE, THAT HANDLES, UM, ANY KIND OF UPGRADES OR THINGS THAT NEED TO BE DONE OVER TIME. 
          IT IS THE WAY BUSINESS IS DONE. 
          SO WHY THERE IS, UH, WHY THERE WAS HEARTBURN WITH THAT AT THAT MEETING. 
          MM-HMM . 
          UM, WE'LL HAVE TO HAVE FURTHER CONVERSATIONS WITH THE MEMBERS OF COUNCIL WHO MENTIONED IT, BECAUSE I'M NOT SURE THAT THERE MAY BE ANOTHER WAY TO, TO STILL GET THAT DONE. 
          MAYBE IT'S HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION OR SIMILAR ORGANIZATION, SOMETHING LIKE THAT. 
          LIKE THERE COULD BE A CAVEAT THERE IN THE LANGUAGE, BUT THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME CENTRALIZED ORGANIZATION THAT TAKES CARE OF ALL THAT STUFF. 
          AND I DON'T SEE HOW TO GET AROUND THAT. 
          I, I DON'T DISAGREE. 
          IT JUST, WHEN THAT CONVERSATION ERUPTED, I WAS LIKE, WHOA, WHY? WHAT ? YEAH. 
          SO, YEAH. 
          SO THE OTHER THING I WAS A LITTLE BIT CONCERNED ABOUT IS I KNOW WE'RE REMOVING THE MINIMUM PARKING AND, UM, I JUST FORWARD THINKING IF, UM, AS AN ESTHETICIAN, I ONLY NEED THREE PARKING SPOTS, BUT IF THAT BUILDING THEN GOES TO SOMEBODY ELSE FOR SOMETHING ELSE DOWN THE LINE THAT'S GONNA NEED MORE PARKING SPACE FOR THAT BUILDING, I JUST, I THINK IT KIND OF, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE WAY AROUND IT IS, BUT I DO KNOW THAT I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH PARKING, AND I WISH THAT THERE HAD BEEN A MINIMUM PARKING IN MY PARKING LOT AT SOME POINT FOR THE BUILDING THAT I'VE TAKEN OVER. 
          SO, UM, I, I WAS JUST KIND OF INTERESTED IN, IN LIKE, LITERALLY WE'RE GONNA ALLOW PEOPLE TWO PARKING SPOTS FOR A 1600 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING. 
          I MEAN, THAT KIND OF STUFF. 
          LIKE, I JUST SEE THAT THAT'S FUTURE PROBLEMS. RYAN , I, YOU, YOU'RE, YOU'RE NOT WRONG IN THAT, BUT WE HAVE SEEN IT WORK IN OTHER COMMUNITIES. 
          UM, THAT BEING SAID, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE KIND OF PUTTING THE ONUS BACK ON THE PROPERTY OWNER AND ON THE BUSINESS. 
          IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT THE CITY'S PLACE TO, TO DICTATE HOW MUCH PARKING A, A BUSINESS NEEDS. 
          I MEAN, THAT REALLY NEEDS TO BE THE BUSINESS. 
          AND IF THEY FEEL THAT THEY CAN GET BY WITH TWO OR THREE SPACES AND IT'S NOT GOING TO HAMPER THEIR BUSINESS, THEN, YOU KNOW, THAT'S, THAT'S UP TO THEM. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, THAT, THAT BEING SAID, YOU KNOW, WE, WE HAVE HAD SOME CONVERSATIONS OF WHAT DOES THIS LOOK LIKE WITH ACCESSIBLE, YOU KNOW, AND AADA A PARKING AND THINGS LIKE THAT, TO BE VERY CLEAR, THAT DOES NOT, UM, THIS DOES NOT NEGATE ANY REQUIREMENTS THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE FOR, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT WOULD BE FEDERAL OR STATE REQUIRED, UH, FOR ACCESS, UM, ACCESSIBLE PARKING SPACES. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, IT, IT, IT REALLY IS ONE OF THESE THINGS THAT, UM, HOPEFULLY THE MARKET WILL DO WHAT IT'S SUPPOSED TO AND PEOPLE WILL PROVIDE ENOUGH PARKING FOR THEIR BUSINESS. 
          UM, I JUST, YEAH, I THINK IT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO KIND OF, TO SEE HOW IT PLAYS OUT. 
          I MEAN, REALLY, IT COULD BE SOMETHING WE, WE COME BACK IN TWO YEARS AND SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT? THIS WASN'T SUCH A GREAT IDEA. 
          MAYBE WE NEED TO HAVE SOME SORT OF A MINIMUM IN THERE. 
          BUT RIGHT NOW, WE'RE SO OVER PARKED IN THE CITY. 
          I MEAN, IF YOU DRIVE AROUND, UM, YOU SEE SO MANY EMPTY PARKING SPACES, UM, IN VERY BUSY BUSINESSES, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT, NOT JUST BUSINESS THAT DOESN'T HAVE A LOT OF OF CUSTOMERS. 
          UM, SO, YOU KNOW, THAT BEING SAID, UM, AGAIN, I THINK IT'S, IT'S A, IT'S A NOVEL IDEA FOR BAYTOWN. 
          IT'S NOT A NOVEL IDEA IN THE PLANNING WORLD. 
          AND, UM, OTHER COMMUNITIES ARE MAKING IT WORK. 
          SO I, I WOULD POINT OUT TWO THINGS ON THAT. 
          UM, WELL, THREE THINGS. 
          ONE IS IF YOU NEED MORE PARKING, YOU PROBABLY NEED TO MOVE. 
          UM, THE AGREE,  FAIR POINT. 
          THE, UM, THE OTHER THING IS I THINK, UM, NUMBER ONE, WE'VE TESTED THE CONCEPT IN THE ACE DISTRICT FOR OBVIOUS REASONS. 
          THERE'S NOT A LOT OF LAND DOWN THERE TO PUT OFF STREET PARKING ON. 
          UM, IS THERE A SHORTAGE OF PARKING IN THE ACE DISTRICT? YES. 
          THAT IS THE NATURE OF THAT TYPE OF AREA. 
          AND PROBABLY WHAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN IS WE NEED SOME SORT OF CENTRALIZED PARKING AREA TO BE DEVELOPED DOWN THERE. 
          THAT HAS NOT HAPPENED YET. 
          THAT IS NOT IN THE CITY'S, UM, TO-DO LIST RIGHT NOW. 
          UM, THAT SAID, UM, I THINK WE'VE SEEN IT INTERNALLY, CITY STAFF AS I'VE SEEN MORE INSTANCES 
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WHERE SOMEBODY WAS TURNED AWAY BECAUSE WE HAD TOO HIGH OF A PARKING REQUIREMENT FOR THEIR BUSINESS TO BE ABLE TO MAKE IT WORK. 
          WHERE THEY'D SAY, LOOK, I ONLY GOT HALF AN ACRE HERE. 
          YOU WANT ME TO HAVE 25 PARKING SPACES FOR WHATEVER USE? IT DOESN'T MATTER. 
          UM, AND I, AND I KNOW THAT FOR MY BUSINESS I ONLY NEED 16, SO I'M ASKING TO DO JUST 16, AND THEN WE'LL SAY, NO, YOU GOTTA DO 25. 
          AND I'D GO, FORGET IT, WE'RE GONNA GO SOMEWHERE ELSE. 
          I'VE SEEN THAT HAPPEN, UM, MORE THAN A FEW TIMES. 
          MM-HMM . 
          HAS, I HAVEN'T SEEN IT RECENTLY, BUT IT DOES HAPPEN. 
          UM, I THINK THE BUSINESSES HAVE GOTTEN MORE WARY TO THAT AND ARE SEEING THAT AND THEY JUST GO, I'M NOT MESSING WITH IT. 
          AND SO WE DON'T HEAR ABOUT IT. 
          'CAUSE THEY'VE ALREADY DECIDED THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT, THAT THEY CAN DO. 
          UM, BIGGER COMPANIES ARE REALLY WARY OF THAT, YOU KNOW, THE BIG TACO BELLS AND WENDY'S AND THINGS LIKE THAT, THAT THEY KNOW EXACTLY WHAT IT IS THEY WANT. 
          UM, THE, AGAIN, AS RYAN SAID, THAT THERE ARE LOTS OF COMMUNITIES AROUND THE COUNTRY THAT ARE DOING THAT. 
          AND WE'RE REALLY TRYING TO LET THE MARKET KIND OF DICTATE WHAT THEY, WHAT PEOPLE BELIEVE THEY NEED FOR THEIR BUSINESS. 
          IF THEY NEED A LITTLE MORE, GREAT, IF YOU'VE GOT SPACE TO DO IT, DO IT. 
          IF YOU DON'T, THEN THIS ALLOWS A, A LITTLE BIT MORE FLEXIBILITY. 
          THE SIZE OF THE PARKING SPACES IS STILL PART OF THE REQUIREMENT. 
          THE SIZE OF THE, UH, DRY VILE IS STILL PART OF THE REQUIREMENT. 
          THE LANDSCAPING THINGS OF THAT NATURE THAT IS STILL IN THERE. 
          IT'S JUST A NUMBER OF SPACES THAT GOES AWAY. 
          OKAY. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          UM, I GOT A COUPLE, TWO MORE THINGS. 
          UH, WE TOUCHED ON THIS BEFORE, UM, GENERATIONAL HOUSING. 
          WE ARE BECOMING A COMMUNITY OF GENERATIONAL HOUSING AND WE UNDERSTAND WHY. 
          SO WE DON'T NEED TO DISCUSS THAT, BUT WE'RE VERY CONCERNED ABOUT STREET PARKING, ET CETERA. 
          AND THERE IS NO WAY AROUND THAT WHEN YOU HAVE, WE DO NOT HAVE METRO, UH, PROPER METRO, THINGS OF THAT NATURE. 
          SO WHEN YOU HAVE FOUR TEENAGERS, UH, DRIVING THEMSELVES TO SCHOOL AND TWO PARENTS, YOU'VE GOT SIX CARS. 
          AND SO, UM, WE'VE TALKED TO, YOU KNOW, MARTIN BROUGHT UP BEFORE POSSIBLY MAYBE MOVING TO ONLY PARK ON ONE SIDE OF THE STREET, MAYBE MAKING THE STREETS LARGER. 
          I DON'T KNOW. 
          BUT WE DO HAVE A HUGE PROBLEM WHEN SCHOOL BUSES CAN'T GET IN. 
          WE HAVE A HUGE PROBLEM WHEN THE BIG RED TRUCKS AND AMBULANCES CAN'T GET IN. 
          SO I THINK WE NEED TO DEFINITELY, BEFORE WE SIGN OFF ON ANYTHING, I'M NOT SAYING TONIGHT, BUT I'M THINKING AT THE VERY END OF THIS, HAVE A DISCUSSION ON WHAT DOES THIS LOOK LIKE FOR US AS A COMMUNITY OF GENERATIONAL HOUSING. 
          MM-HMM . 
          NO, AND, AND, AND ONE THING I WILL MENTION TO KIND OF PIGGYBACK BACK ON THE CONVERSATION ABOUT PARKING, JUST TO MAKE SO EVERYONE IS CLEAR, WE ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT GETTING RID OF PARKING REQUIREMENTS FOR RESIDENTIAL USES. 
          SO THERE WOULD STILL BE PARKING REQUIREMENTS FOR THAT, BECAUSE AGAIN, WE KNOW THOSE, WE NEED TO HAVE THAT. 
          AND WE ARE SEEING AN ISSUE IN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS OF WHERE, UM, FOLKS DON'T HAVE, UH, THERE'S JUST NOT ENOUGH PARKING FOR THEM. 
          SO, UM, YEAH, THAT IS SOMETHING WE NEED TO, WE CERTAINLY NEED TO HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT. 
          IT'S PROBABLY SOMETHING WE NEED TO CALL IN, YOU KNOW, PROBABLY WORK WITH FIRE ON, WORK WITH ENGINEERING ON, SEE KIND OF WHAT, WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE. 
          IS IT, YEAH. 
          IS IT ONLY PARKING ON ONE SIDE OF THE STREET? YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE SOME SOLUTIONS THAT WE CAN DO? BECAUSE ON THE, THE FLIP SIDE, THE WIDER YOUR STREETS ARE, THE FASTER PEOPLE GO, THE MORE DRAINAGE YOU HAVE MM-HMM . 
          UM, THE HOTTER YOUR, YOUR, UH, NEIGHBORHOODS ARE, AND THE MORE THAT IT COSTS THE CITY TO MAINTAIN THOSE STREETS. 
          SO IT'S, IT'S, IT'S A TOUGH BALANCE TO, TO GET OF WHERE YOU HAVE ENOUGH SPACE FOR PEOPLE TO PARK, BUT NOT THESE OVERLY EXCESSIVELY LARGE STREETS THAT BECOME DRAG, UM, DRAGWAYS FOR FOLKS. 
          AND, AND JUST A FEW MONTHS AGO WE DID ADOPT, UM, NEW CROSS SECTIONS FOR STREETS. 
          AND THAT, I BELIEVE TOOK INTO ACCOUNT, UH, A LOT OF WHAT WE'RE THE CONCERNS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT NOW. 
          UM, SO THOSE WOULDN'T CHANGE MM-HMM . 
          SO THAT DOES TELL YOU HOW, HOW WIDE THE STREET NEEDS TO BE, HOW WIDE THE SIDEWALKS NEED TO BE, HOW WIDE THE STRIPS, THE GRASS STRIP NEEDS TO BE, AND, AND THE OVERALL RIGHT OF WAY. 
          UM, WHAT YOU'RE REALLY SEEING, WHERE YOU'RE REALLY SEEING THE ISSUES ARE OLD NEIGHBORHOODS, NOT SO MUCH THE NEW ONES. 
          MM-HMM. 
          IT'S, WE DRIVEN AROUND OUR NEIGHBORHOOD ALL. 
          SO, UM, THE, UM, I THINK, UM, SO OUR, OUR CITY ENGINEERS HERE, UM, JUAN, MAYBE OLD NEW NEIGHBORHOODS THAT, THAT'S PROBABLY A BETTER WAY TO SAY THE OLD NEW NEIGHBORHOODS. 
          YEAH. 
          THE ONES THAT WERE BUILT IN THE NINETIES AND TWO THOUSANDS THAT ARE, AGAIN, THE, THE, THE REGULATIONS WERE JUST CHANGED LAST YEAR. 
          SO YEAH, ONE, MAYBE YOU CAN, UM, HIT THE HIGHLIGHTS OF THOSE, THOSE STREET CROSS SECTIONS. 
          SO YOU CAN GO TO ANY OF THE, THE NEW NEIGHBORHOODS IN THE EXTRATERRITORIAL JURISDICTION PASSED NORTH OF I 10 AND THE NEW SUBDIVISIONS. 
          AND THOSE ARE NEW NEIGHBORHOODS, AND YOU CANNOT DRIVE A BUS DOWN MOST OF THOSE STREETS. 
          I LIVE ON MORALE. 
          YOU CAN PARK CARS ON BOTH SIDES OF THE STREETS AND GET TWO CARS GOING AWAY, AND SOMETIMES THREE, YOU KNOW, AND THAT'S AN OLD NEIGHBORHOOD, 1942. 
          SO THE PROBLEM IS NOT OLD NEIGHBORHOODS. 
          THE PROBLEM IS THAT 
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WE'RE BUILDING NEW NEIGHBORHOODS WITH VERY NARROW STREETS, AND YOU GOT A 15 FOOT SETBACK, SO YOU DON'T HAVE ROOM FOR A DRIVEWAY TO PARK ANY VEHICLES IN IT. 
          THAT'S THE PROBLEM. 
          AND, AND I KNOW THIS IS, UH, GO AGAINST A LOT OF DEVELOPERS, BUT IF THEY TAKE TWO OR THREE HOUSES OFF THEIR ROSTER AND PUT SOME DESIGNATED PARKING, EXTRA PARKING SPACES, DOESN'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO BE IN FRONT OF THE HOUSE TO, YOU KNOW, NOT TO, UH, UM, MOVE THE SETBACK REQUIREMENTS, BUT MAYBE NEAR THE MAILBOXES OR, YOU KNOW, HOWEVER THEY CONFIGURE IT, AND JUST HAVE SOME EXTRA SPACE FOR EXTRA CARS. 
          THAT'S NOT GOING TO ALLEVIATE THE PROBLEM IF YOU HAVE 150 HOMES, BUT YOU COULD GET PROBABLY HOWEVER WIDE THE HOUSES ARE, PLUS THE DRIVEWAY, THREE OF THOSE, OR FOUR, WE HAVE SOME EXTRA PARKING THAT COULD BE A SOLUTION MAYBE, UM, IN SINGLE FAMILY AND, AND IN MULTIFAMILY, YOU SEE THAT IN WELLINGTON PARK WHEN THEY DEVELOP THAT DEVELOPMENT AND IT'S VERY NICE. 
          SO VISITOR PARKING. 
          YEAH. 
          FOR VISITOR PARKING, BUT FOR TEENAGE PARKING, KID PARKING . 
          BUT SERIOUSLY, IT'S A, IT'S A MAJOR ISSUE IN MOST OF OUR NEWER SUBDIVISIONS. 
          A MAJOR ISSUE, NOT A MINOR ONE. 
          YOU, I CAN'T DRIVE MY CAR DOWN ONE OF THE STREETS IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD BECAUSE IT CURVES AND THERE'S PEOPLE PARKED ON BOTH SIDES. 
          THERE IS NO WAY TO GET THROUGH THERE. 
          AND IT'S DAY IN AND DAY OUT. 
          IT'S NOT EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE. 
          JUAN, CAN YOU MAYBE ADDRESS THAT, WHAT WE DID WITH THE STREET WIDTHS LAST YEAR? HEY, GOOD AFTERNOON. 
          UH, COMMISSIONER, UH, JUAN MAIA, CITY ENGINEER WITH PUBLIC WORKS AND ENGINEERING. 
          UH, SO WHAT WE DID WAS ABOUT, UM, APPROXIMATELY, UH, JANUARY OF EITHER 21 OR 2022. 
          UH, WE UPDATED SOME OF THE STANDARDS WITH REGARDS TO THE RIGHT OF WAY SPECIFICALLY THAT ALSO INCLUDED THE WIDTH OF THE PAVEMENT. 
          UM, MOST OF WHAT, UH, MINOR, MAJOR, AND ARTERIALS WERE ALSO, UH, UM, MADE WIDER. 
          BUT, UM, SPECIFICALLY I THINK Y'ALL ARE TALKING ABOUT THE LOCAL ROADS. 
          THOSE WENT FROM ABOUT 28 FEET TO 32 32 FEET, JUST TO GIVE IT THAT EXTRA ROOM WITH THE IDEA OF, UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HELPED KIND OF DRIVE THAT DECISION WAS, UH, WE DID A CROSS SECTION WHERE WE PUT A CAR ON EITHER SIDE AND HAVE ENOUGH ROOM SO THAT THEY COULD DRIVE IN BETWEEN. 
          UM, PART OF IT IS ALSO THE WATER VEHICLES THAT THERE ARE HERE. 
          MM-HMM . 
          UM, IT IS JUST PART OF THE FACT SOMETIMES, YOU KNOW, IF IT'S A SMALLER VEHICLE, IT'S, IT IS MUCH EASIER. 
          THERE HAVE BEEN SOME OF THE NEIGHBORHOODS WHERE WE HAVE HAD TO GO IN, JUST DEPENDING ON THE CONGESTION AND HOW IT IS WHERE WE DID GO TO THE NORTH PARKING ON ONE SIDE. 
          UM, SO THAT IS, HAS BEEN AN OPTION. 
          UM, THE ORDINANCE WAS UPDATED ABOUT, UH, TWO, THREE YEARS AGO, ROUGHLY. 
          SO SOME OF THE, UH, SUBDIVISIONS THAT Y'ALL DID REFERENCE WOULD BE PART OF THE, EVEN IF THEY WERE APPROVED BEFORE THAT SOMETHING, UH, Y'ALL MENTIONED NORTH OF WATERVILLE, NORTH OF MAINE, SOME OF THOSE WERE APPROVED BEFORE THAT, UH, SECTION. 
          SO THEY DID GET TO BUILD UNDER THAT EXISTING STANDARD. 
          UM, THAT IS WHY SOME OF THOSE SUBDIVISIONS ARE LIKE THAT. 
          THERE ARE SOME OLD STREETS THAT IT HAPPENED TO BE WIDER. 
          UM, IT JUST DEPENDS ON WHAT WAS THE REGULATION AT THE TIME, WHOEVER DECIDED TO BUILD WHAT WAS BUILT AT THE TIME. 
          UM, THAT IS WHY THERE ARE SOME SUBDIVISIONS THAT ARE LIKE THAT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          SO I THINK YOU NEED TO BE CAREFUL IF YOU START THINKING ABOUT HAVING PARKING ON ONE SIDE OF THE STREET ONLY. 
          UH, NOT EVEN CONSIDERING THE FACT THAT YOU MAY HAVE SOME NEIGHBORHOOD ANIMOSITY GOING ON AND WHO'S GONNA PARK ON ONE SIDE. 
          SO YOU MAY HAVE THAT GOING ON, BUT THAT SORT OF, IN MY MIND, I'VE SEEN NEIGHBORHOODS LIKE THAT, THAT SORT OF CREATES A SAFETY HAZARD WITH KIDS COMING ACROSS THE STREET AND PEOPLE ACROSS THE STREET AND THEY'RE PARKING ON THAT SIDE OF THE STREET, AND I GOT ACROSS THE STREET TO GO TO THEIR HOUSE AND MOM'S UNLOADING CARS OR WHATEVER THEY GOTTA DO AND GET KIDS ACROSS THE STREET. 
          I JUST, THAT'S, I JUST DON'T THINK THAT'S BAD. 
          A GOOD IDEA. 
          THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. 
          I THINK WE SHOULD PROBABLY CONTINUE WITH THE PUBLIC HEARING AND THEN WE CAN COME BACK TO CONVERSATION WITH THE COMMISSION AFTER THAT. 
          OKAY. 
          SOUNDS GOOD. 
          WE HAVE, UH, SOME FOLKS SIGNED UP TO, UH, SPEAK. 
          UH, FIRST ONE ON THE LIST IS CHRIS LA LAITZ. 
          LAITZ LAITZ. 
          THANK YOU, SIR. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UH, MY NAME'S CHRIS LAITZ. 
          I LIVE AT 48 0 9 GULF WAY DRIVE. 
          UM, QUICK HISTORY. 
          UH, MY WIFE AND I OWNED A COMPANY, UH, HERE IN BAYTOWN FOR 20 YEARS. 
          UH, OUR PROPERTY IS ON, UH, JUST AROUND THE CORNER FROM WARD ROAD. 
          UM, BUILDINGS HAVE BEEN THERE FOR 40 YEARS. 
          UH, WE DID CUSTOM MANUFACTURING WHEN THE CODE WAS, UH, FIRST PROPOSED TO THE NEW CODE. 
          UM, THEY SAID IT WAS BASICALLY CUSTOM MANUFACTURING. 
          UM, NOW WE HAVE HAD CONVERSATIONS, UH, WITH 
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RYAN AND MARTIN ABOUT OUR CONCERNS. 
          WE SENT A LIST OF OUR CONCERNS, UH, TO THEM. 
          WE'VE MET WITH THEM. 
          UM, BUT SOME OF THESE, WE, WE STILL HAVE PRETTY MAJOR CONCERNS WITH. 
          UM, THE FIRST ONE, THE CUSTOM MANUFACTURING MARTIN HAD JUST MENTIONED, I'M SORRY, RYAN HAD JUST MENTIONED THAT THEY INCREASED IT FROM 5,000 SQUARE FEET TO 10,000 SQUARE FEET. 
          UNDER THE CURRENT CODE, I DON'T THINK THERE IS A LIMIT. 
          SEVEN YEARS AGO, I INCREASED ONE OF THE BUILDING SIZES TO 11,100 SQUARE FEET, WHICH MEANS I CAN'T USE IT NOW UNDER THIS NEW PROPOSED CODE FOR CUSTOM MANUFACTURING. 
          AND THAT'S WHAT I'VE BEEN DOING FOR 20 YEARS. 
          THE, UH, OTHER THING IS THEY SAID THAT IT WAS THE SAME THING. 
          THEY WERE BASICALLY JUST CHANGING THE NAME. 
          HOWEVER, IN THE CURRENT, IN THE NEW CODE, UH, SECTION 2.3 DASH SIX C, IT SAYS RETAIL SALES ASSOCIATED WITH MICRO MANUFACTURING IS ALLOWED. 
          HOWEVER, DISTRIBUTION, WAREHOUSE WHOLESALING ACTIVITIES ARE PROHIBITED. 
          WE BUILT AND MANUFACTURED COMPONENTS FOR SWITCH GEARS. 
          WE DON'T SELL TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC. 
          95% OF OUR BUSINESS, UH, OUR PRODUCTS WERE SOLD OUTSIDE OF THE STATE, SO WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO USE IT TO DO THAT ANYMORE. 
          UM, WE EMPLOYED 45 PEOPLE. 
          THEY LIVED HERE. 
          MOST OF THEM LIVED HERE IN BAYTOWN. 
          MANY OF THEM MOVED TO BAYTOWN TO WORK FOR US. 
          UM, WE SOLD THE BUSINESS. 
          WE STILL HAVE THE BUILDINGS. 
          WE HAVE LOST, WE'VE ALREADY LOST ONE BUYER. 
          WE'VE HAD MULTIPLE OTHERS COME VERY INTERESTED IN THE PROPERTY AND BACKED OUT BECAUSE OF THE NEW ORDINANCES, THE NEW, UH, CODES. 
          UM, OTHER ISSUES THAT WE HAVE GOING THROUGH THE CODES. 
          MY WIFE AND I HAVE GONE THROUGH THESE CODES PRETTY EXTENSIVELY. 
          UM, SECTION I MAJOR AND MINOR NON-CONFORMANCES. 
          UH, IT SAYS TO GO TO CHAPTER 18. 
          YOU GO TO CHAPTER 18, NOTHING'S THERE. 
          IT'S A BLANK PAGE THAT SAYS RESERVED. 
          UM, ANOTHER CON, ANOTHER ISSUE IS NON-CONFORMANCES. 
          UM, REALLY CAN'T FIGURE OUT A LOT OF WHAT THESE NON-CONFORMANCES, HOW THEY, HOW THEY INTERACT. 
          THE CURRENT CODE, UH, NON-CONFORMITY. 
          B ONE, OVERCOMING, UH, THE PRESUMPTION OF ABANDONED PROPERTY. 
          UH, AGAIN, UH, REFERENCES CHAPTER 18. 
          IT'S NOT THERE. 
          UH, CURRENTLY IF A PROPERTY REMAINS VACANT FOR A YEAR, IT CAN BE CONSIDERED ABANDONED. 
          PARDON ME, SIR. 
          UH, THE TIME'S UP. 
          FORGIVE ME. 
          UM, IF THE COMMITTEE SO DESIRES, I'D BE HAPPY TO LISTEN TO THE REST OF WHAT THE MAN HAS TO SAY. 
          I'M HERE ALL NIGHT. 
          WE DID THIS AT THE LAST PUBLIC HEARING. 
          YEAH, THE COMMISSION CAN VOTE ON ON THAT IF YOU, IF YOU WANTED TO MAKE A, A MOTION. 
          HE WAS INTERRUPTED. 
          THE WIFE HAS SIGNED UP TO SPEAK AS WELL. 
          SHE MAY WANT TO GIVE THE TIME. 
          YES. 
          DOES SHE WANT TO GIVE HER TIME? YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          SO THERE YOU GO. 
          WE'VE GOT ANOTHER ONE. 
          OH, SO SEE THE NEXT AND WHAT IS YOUR NAME, SIR? ANDY. 
          OKAY. 
          GET THEIR TIME. 
          ALRIGHT THEN. 
          SO LOOKS LIKE THAT'S ANOTHER SIX, SIX MINUTES. 
          YEAH. 
          THANK YOU. 
          GO AHEAD SIR. 
          OKAY. 
          SO CURRENTLY IF A PROPERTY IS VACANT FOR A YEAR, IT CAN BE CONSIDERED ABAN ABANDONED UNLESS THE OWNER CAN SHOW THAT THE PROPERTY IS MAINTAINED IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE BUILDING CODE, UH, COMPLIANT TO CHAPTER 18, WHICH AGAIN, DOESN'T EXIST, UH, ACTIVELY MARKETING OR SALE OR LEASE OF THE PROPERTY OR PROVE THAT THERE WAS NO INTENTION TO ABANDON IT. 
          THE NEW CODE ONLY GIVES SIX MONTHS FOR USE. 
          IT DOESN'T SPECIFICALLY SAY ANYTHING ABOUT THE PROPERTY. 
          UH, BUT IT SEEMS TO LEAN INTO AMOR AMORTIZATION, WHICH WASN'T IN THE EXISTING CODE. 
          AND ACCORDING TO, UH, THE NEW CODE 8.01 DASH F UH, AMORTIZATION OF NON-CONFORMING USE OF NON-CONFORMING STRUCTURES, THERE'S NO JUSTIFICATION OF HOW THE CITY CAN USE IT. 
          SO IT JUST SAYS WE CAN DO IT, BUT IT DOESN'T GIVE ANY JUSTIFICATION FOR WHAT WOULD ALLOW THE CITY TO DO IT. 
          UM, WHAT IS CONSIDERED SUFFICIENT TIME TO BECOME INTO COMPLIANCE THAT'S NOT GIVEN. 
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UH, WHO DETERMINES, UM, HOW LONG THIS TIME PERIOD IS? AND IT SAYS, UH, HOW THAT THERE'S JUST COMPENSATION. 
          LIKE FOR INSTANCE, IF SOMEBODY STARTS A BUSINESS AND THE THEY'RE IN COMPLIANCE, THE CODE IS AMENDED. 
          SO NOW THEY'RE OUT OF COMPLIANCE. 
          UM, THEY'RE GIVEN ADEQUATE NOTIFICATION, WHICH DON'T KNOW HOW, WHAT TIME PERIOD THAT IS. 
          UH, THEY'RE RE REQUIRED TO RELOCATE OR COME INTO COMPLIANCE IN A SUFFICIENT TIME. 
          BUT THERE'S NO INDICATION OF WHAT SUFFICIENT TIME MEANS. 
          UH, IF THEY MOVE THE COM, THE BUSINESS, THEY CAN BE COMPENSATED. 
          BUT HOW DOES THE COMPENSATION WORK? WHAT'S BEING COMPENSATED? HOW IS IT BEING COMPENSATED? IF I'M A LANDLORD AND I HAVE SOMEBODY MOVE INTO MY BUILDING, THEY GO FROM BEING IN COMPLIANCE TO BEING OUTTA COMPLIANCE BECAUSE OF A AMENDMENT TO THE CODE. 
          THEY'RE REQUIRED TO MOVE. 
          I LOSE A TENANT. 
          I CAN'T, I CAN'T RENT OR LEASE TO ANYBODY WHO MIGHT, YOU KNOW, IT RESTRICTS WHO I CAN LEASE TO. 
          UM, AM I COMPENSATED? ARE THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE TO MOVE FROM MY BUILDING COMPENSATED? IT DOESN'T, IT DOESN'T SAY ANY OF THAT. 
          IT'S JUST KIND OF VERY VAGUE ON WHAT, WHAT CAN BE DONE AND IF THERE'S ANY REAL COMPENSATION TO ANYBODY. 
          UM, THAT'S, THAT'S, THOSE ARE SOME OF OUR CONCERNS WITH THIS NEW CODE. 
          UM, WE'VE, WE'VE, WE HAVE WORKED WITH, UH, MARTIN AND RYAN, BUT WE STILL HAVE A WHOLE LIST OF CONCERNS. 
          AND WE'RE AFRAID THAT IF THIS GOES TO CITY COUNCIL, THESE CONCERNS ARE NOT GONNA BE ADDRESSED. 
          THANK YOU. 
          YOU THANKS, SIR. 
          ARE THESE THE BOWMAN STREET PROPERTIES WE'RE DISCUSSING? EXCUSE ME? THESE ARE THE BOWMAN STREET PROPERTIES THAT WE'RE DISCUSSING THAT YOU'RE CONCERNED ABOUT? YES. 
          YES. 
          AND RANDY, HERE'S IN THE THIRD BUILDING. 
          WE'VE GOT TWO BUILDINGS. 
          HE HAS ONE. 
          BUT, YOU KNOW, IF, IF THE CODE GOES INTO, IF THE CODE GOES INTO EFFECT RIGHT NOW, THESE BUILDINGS THAT HAVE BEEN THERE FOR 40 YEARS, WE'VE BEEN IN 'EM FOR 20, RANDY'S BEEN IN 'EM FOR I THINK 30 OR 35 YEARS. 
          UM, YOU'RE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO USE 'EM FOR WHAT THEY WERE BUILT FOR AND WHAT THEY'VE BEEN USED FOR, FOR THE PAST 40 YEARS. 
          I CAN UNDERSTAND IF SOME OF THESE RESTRICTIONS WOULD BE GOOD FOR NEW CONSTRUCTION OR FOR, UH, YOU KNOW, KEEPING STUFF OUT OF, UH, BEING TOO CLOSE TO, UM, A NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          BUT THESE HAVE BEEN THERE FOR 40 YEARS. 
          I HAVE A QUESTION FOR STAFF. 
          IS THERE'S NO SUCH THING AS GRANDFATHERING IN SOME OF THESE BUSINESSES, AND THEN IF THEY CHOOSE TO SELL 'EM, THE NEW OWNER THEN HAS TO, YOU KNOW, APPLY TO THE NEW OR, OR, UM, CONFORM IS, IS THAT NOT A THING? SO, UH, UM, I THINK, UM, I, I CAN ANSWER YOUR QUESTION. 
          UM, I WOULD LIKE TO COME BACK AND SURE. 
          I'LL STAFF WILL DO OUR BEST TO KIND OF ANSWER YOUR QUESTION. 
          I'M WRITING EVERYTHING DOWN SURE. 
          AFTER WE FINISH THE PUBLIC HEARING PART. 
          SURE. 
          SO, UM, IF YOU DON'T MIND, UH, I WANNA GIVE EVERYBODY A CHANCE TO, TO SPEAK ANYTHING ELSE, SIR? THAT'S IT FOR THANK YOU, SIR. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UH, THE NEXT PERSON ON THE LIST HERE IS, IS IT LAE RE OH, THANK YOU. 
          SORRY. 
          HELLO. 
          UM, I'M LEROY RE UH, MY PARENTS LIVE AT 73 20 I 10 EAST, UH, FREEWAY, BAYTOWN, TEXAS. 
          WE HAD CONVERSATION WITH, UH, RYAN AND, UH, LEIA REGARDING LIKE A MIXED USE, UM, REZONING, BECAUSE WHAT IT IS, IS MY PARENTS OWN THE FRONT PROPERTY, WHICH IS OUTRIGHT COMMERCIAL, BUT IT WAS NEVER PLATTED BECAUSE WHEN THEY WERE ANNEXED BACK IN 2017, THEY NEVER HAD A PLAT. 
          AND THEN THEY OWN THE FOUR ACRES BEHIND IT WITH MY UNCLE IN THE BACK THAT HE HAS A RESIDENTIAL. 
          SO THEIR RESIDENTIAL PLUS OUR COMMERCIAL, THERE'S NOT REALLY A CODE FOR LIKE A GENERAL MIXED USE, UH, PROPERTY ON THE CODE WHERE THE NEW CODE THAT I WAS READING, I DON'T SEE THAT THEY ADDRESSED IT AS WELL, BECAUSE THE REASON WHY WE COULDN'T GET IT ZONED, 
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BECAUSE THERE'S TWO DIFFERENT ZONING. 
          ONES COMMERCIAL AND ONE'S RESIDENTIAL, AND THEY CAN'T ZONE IT BOTH WAYS. 
          SO WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT IS, WAS IT ADDRESSING THE NEW UU THE UIL OR UDCL THAT THEY'RE PROPOSING? BUT, UM, I DIDN'T SEE IT IN THERE. 
          SO THAT'S ONE OF OUR MAIN CONCERNS. 
          'CAUSE THAT BASICALLY HINDERS OUR BUSINESS THAT'S ON ONE ACRE PLUS THE REMAINING, UH, FOUR ACRES BEHIND US, WHICH WE USE LIKE A LAY DOWN YARD, BUT ALSO THE BACK ACRES, WHICH IS RESIDENTIAL. 
          IT'S, UH, ANOTHER COMPLICATED STORE REGARDING FAMILY. 
          WE FINALLY, WE FINALLY, UH, WAS ABLE TO FIGURE OUT THE PLANNING PURPOSES, UH, OF THAT. 
          BUT OUR MAIN THING IS GETTING IT ZONED PROPERLY. 
          BUT ANOTHER ISSUE THAT I WANTED TO ADDRESS THAT I THINK MAYBE EVERY, EVERYBODY IN BAYTOWN, IS WHY YOU GUYS OR WHY CITY, CITY IS APPROVING ALL THESE GAS STATIONS EVERYWHERE. 
          BECAUSE THE ZONING IS FOR THESE GAS STATIONS ARE IN ACTUALLY LIKE RESIDENTIAL AREAS AND GETTING GAS STATIONS ON EVERY CORNER. 
          YOU CAN SEE MY STREET HAS LIKE FOUR GAS STATIONS ON IT IN THE, IN THE LESS THAN A HALF MILE RADIUS. 
          SO SAME THING FOR THE WAREHOUSES YOU GUYS ADDRESSED. 
          I LIKED HOW YOU GUYS ADDRESSED IT REGARDING, HI, UH, ON I 10 FREEWAY, BECAUSE THERE IS A BOOT LOAD OF, OF WAREHOUSES ALL THE WAY DOWN TO 99. 
          NOW IT'S GONNA GO ALL THE WAY DOWN TO 1 46 AND SO FORTH, 31 80. 
          SO WE DON'T NEED ANY MORE WAREHOUSES. 
          WE DON'T NEED ANY, NEED ANY MORE GAS STATIONS. 
          THERE'S SO MUCH SUPER COMMUNITIES GETTING DEVELOPED NORTH OF I 10. 
          UH, WHERE WE, WE ARE NOT TECHNICALLY IN CITY LIMITS, BUT THERE'S A LOT OF CITY LIMITS OR ETJ PROPERTIES, UH, REGARDING CITY OF BAYTOWN. 
          SO YOU GUYS ADDRESS PERFECT. 
          UH, ABOUT REGARDING THE WIS OF THE ROADWAYS. 
          'CAUSE I DO LIVE IN THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS AND IT IS HARD TO NAVIGATE THROUGH THOSE AREAS. 
          BUT, UM, THEY'RE CRAMMING SO MANY HOUSES IN THERE BECAUSE THEY WANT TO GET MORE BANG FOR THE BUCK. 
          PLUS CITY OF BAYTOWN IS INCREASING THE REVENUE TAXES ON EVERYBODY, INCLUDING MY PARENTS, WHICH ARE 75, AND THEY HAVE TO PAY $23,000 IN TAXES. 
          WELL, I MEAN, NOBODY CAN AFFORD IT, ESPECIALLY IF THEY'RE ON SOCIAL SECURITY. 
          SO I UNDERSTAND WHY YOU GUYS DID IT, BUT, UM, WE TRIED TO ADDRESS IT FOR LIKE THE GENERATION PURPOSES, YOU'RE SAYING. 
          YES, A LOT OF GENERATIONAL PEOPLE ARE, ARE BUYING HOMES AND MOVING IN AND IT'S GETTING YOUNGER. 
          BUT ALSO, WHAT ABOUT THE OLDER PEOPLE? YES, YOU'RE DEVELOPING PLANNED DEVELOPMENTS BEHIND STERLING AND SO FORTH, BUT THEY STILL CAN'T LIVE IN THAT AREA, SO THEY HAVE TO LIVE IN THE OLD AREAS OR THEIR HOUSES. 
          THEY'VE BEEN LIVING FOR 50 SOMETHING YEARS. 
          BUT, UH, THESE, UH, AREAS JUST NEED TO BE ADDRESSED AND HOPE YOU GUYS ADDRESS IT AT THAT TIME. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU, SIR. 
          UH, NEXT ON THE LIST IS, UH, MS. TERESA SUMMERFORD. 
          UM, I HAVE A QUESTION REGARDING ON, UM, THE WARD ROAD DEVELOPMENT ON SIXTH STREET. 
          SO, TO MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THEY ARE GONNA COMBINE, I'M SORRY, CAN YOU SAY YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE? THERESA SUMMERFORD. 
          THANK YOU, MA'AM. 
          UM, SO MY, UM, I WANT A LITTLE BIT MORE CLARIFICATION OF THE, THE BUILDING OF THE, UM, COMBINING THAT THEY'RE GONNA DO THAT. 
          THIS IS THE WRONG ITEM FOR THAT. 
          IT WAS EARLIER THAT, THAT WAS THE ITEM THAT'S ALREADY BEEN, UH, APPROVED. 
          IT'S ALREADY BEEN DISCLOSED. 
          SO IT'S CLOSED OUT. 
          IT WAS THE, THAT WAS THE FIRST ITEM. 
          IT'S ALREADY BEEN THE FIRST ZONING ITEM AGREED UPON AND EVERYTHING. 
          NO, THAT'LL GO TO CITY COUNCIL, UM, IN, AT A MEETING IN AUGUST FOR THEIR APPROVAL. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, I ALSO WANTED TO SAY, UM, WHAT THE GENTLEMAN WAS SAYING, ALSO, I AGREE ON, UM, WHAT HE WAS SAYING FOR, UM, THE OLDER PEOPLE, UM, OF THE TAXES BEING RAISED AND, UM, OF WHERE, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE WITH ON SOCIAL SECURITY WHERE IT'S HARD TO AFFORD THE TAXES, AND THEN THEY HAVE TO STAY IN, IN THE, UM, OLDER DEVELOPMENT OF THE, OF THE TERRITORY OF NOT GOING INTO THE NEWER HOMES BECAUSE OF THE TAXES. 
          AND I DO AGREE WITH SOME OF THE OTHER HOMES THAT ARE BEING BUILT, THAT THE STREETS ARE SO CONFINED THAT YOU REALLY CAN'T GET IN AND OUT OF THEM VERY WELL. 
          AND I THINK THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED ON THE STREETS AND ALSO ON THE ONE THAT YOU SAID ON WITH THE HAVING THE ONE ROADSIDE TO, UM, PARK ON. 
          I AGREE. 
          UM, SOME OF THE SAFETY CONCERNS IS CHILDREN CROSSING. 
          AND NOT ONLY THAT, YOU HAVE PEOPLE MAYBE THAT ALSO DON'T FOLLOW THE SPEED ZONE, UH, THE, YOU KNOW, THE, THE SPEED LIMIT AND THEN THEY'RE ZOOMING THROUGH THERE AND THEN ALSO CROSSING OVER IN, ESPECIALLY, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO PARK IN THAT AREA OF THE SAFETY FOR THAT. 
          AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU, MS. SUMMER. 
          MS. SUMMERFIELD, MS. SUMMERFORD. 
          MS. SUMMERFIELD. 
          EXCUSE ME. 
          MS. SUMMERFORD FORD. 
          I BEG YOUR PARDON? 
          [01:10:02]
I WAS JUST GONNA GET YOUR CONTACT INFORMATION SO WE CAN TALK TO YOU AFTER THE MEETING. 
          SO, UM, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION BY THE BOARD, PLEASE? THE BOARD? UM, I'D LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND SEE IF I CAN'T, UM, CLARIFY A FEW OF THE ITEMS THAT CAME UP. 
          UM, DO WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING NOW OR LET DO I, UH, I WOULD SAY PART OF THE PUBLIC. 
          OKAY. 
          HEARING THE WAY OF SNOW ENGINE. 
          OKAY. 
          SO, UM, SO, UH, WE HAVE HAD, UH, WE DID HAVE A, A MEETING, MR. AND MRS. UH, LEITZ AND, UM, WITH MR. LYONS, UM, TO DISCUSS SOME OF THEIR, UH, ISSUES. 
          ONE OF THE THINGS I THINK THAT AT THE TIME, SO REMEMBER TOO, STAFF IS STILL, UM, REFINING AND LEARNING THE CODE. 
          SO, UM, THAT WILL TAKE A LITTLE BIT OF TIME FOR, FOR US TO, TO GET A HUNDRED PERCENT ON, UM, AS IT WILL YOU GUYS AS WELL. 
          UH, BUT ONE OF THE THINGS I THINK THAT MAYBE WE DIDN'T DISCUSS, AND I THINK RYAN MIGHT HAVE SENT AN EMAIL ABOUT AFTER OUR MEETING, IS THAT, UM, WELL, LET ME, LET ME STEP BACK. 
          ACTUALLY, I'M, I'M GOING TO, UM, ANSWER COMMISSIONER SCOTT'S QUESTION ABOUT THE, THE NON-CONFORMING, UM, SORT OF GRANDFATHER. 
          I DON'T THINK WE'RE ALLOWED TO USE THAT TERM ANYMORE. 
          UM, THAT, THAT THEY'RE, I'M SORRY THAT THEY'RE NON I'M OLD NON I KNOW, I KNOW. 
          WE ALL KNOW WHAT IT MEANS. 
          UM, SO, UM, IN, IN THE INTEREST OF, OF USING COMMON TERMINOLOGY, UM, WHEN YOU HAVE A USE THAT THEN IS NO LONGER ALLOWED BY THAT ZONING, YOU ARE ALLOWED TO CONTINUE THAT USE. 
          AS LONG AS IT CONTINUES. 
          YOU CAN KEEP IT FOREVER, AS LONG AS IT DOESN'T GO AWAY AND COME BACK. 
          NOW IT HAS TO BE ABANDONED AT THAT POINT. 
          IT'S ONLY CONSIDERED ABANDONED AFTER 12 MONTHS. 
          UM, I THINK WHAT MR. LAHAT SAID WAS THAT IT, NOW THE NEW CODE SAYS THAT IT'S ABANDONED AFTER SIX MONTHS. 
          UM, WE, WE WILL DEFINITELY LOOK INTO THAT AND CONFIRM THAT. 
          I DON'T KNOW THAT THERE WAS EVER A, UH, I DON'T KNOW THAT THERE WAS EVER AN INTENT TO SHORTEN THAT TO SIX MONTHS. 
          UM, UNDERSTAND THAT A USE BECOMES NON-CONFORMING WHEN IT IS DEEMED THAT IT IS NO LONGER FIT IN THAT PART OF TOWN, THAT STREET, THAT SIDE OF STREET, THAT NEIGHBORHOOD, WHATEVER IT IS. 
          UM, SO THAT SAID, YOU DO WANT SOMETHING IN YOUR CODE THAT SAYS, OKAY, ONCE ONE OF THESE USES GOES AWAY AND IT IS ABANDONED AGAIN, UM, THEN YOU ARE NO LONGER ALLOWED TO PUT ANOTHER ONE OF THOSE BACK IN. 
          NOW, ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS I, I'M PRETTY SURE RYAN AND I DIDN'T MENTION AT OUR MEETING WAS THAT THE NEW CODE DOES HAVE SOMETHING THAT OUR CURRENT CODE DOES NOT, WHICH IS THE ABILITY TO RECCO TO ASK FOR A SPECIAL USE PERMIT IN ORDER TO CONTINUE THAT, UH, NON-CONFORMING USE. 
          IT WOULD ALLOW FOR A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF, OF INCREASE TO THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THE, OF THE USE. 
          IT WOULD ALLOW FOR THE CONTINUED USE ITSELF. 
          UM, AND IT WOULD ALLOW FOR CERTAIN CONDITIONS TO BE PUT IN PLACE ON THAT PROPERTY IN ORDER FOR THAT TO MOVE FORWARD. 
          SO IF WE SAID, OKAY, NOW YOU GET TO, TO CONTINUE THAT USE, BUT YOU GOTTA PUT UP, UH, ADDITIONAL SCREENING, OR MAYBE WE HAVE DETERMINED THERE'S A PARKING ISSUE AND YOU SAY, OKAY, WE GOTTA PUT IN NEW PARKING. 
          IT WOULD ALLOW FOR SOME ADDITIONAL CONDITIONS. 
          SO WE WERE TRYING TO, UM, TO ANTICIPATE THAT SORT OF THING. 
          'CAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THAT ABILITY TO DO THAT NOW. 
          JUST SOMETHING ADD, I, I DID, ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT THE NEW CODE DOES ADD IS, IS AS MARTIN SAID, UM, BUT NOT ONLY DOES IT, UH, ALLOW FOR THE NON-CONFORMING TO CONTINUE THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT WOULD ACTUALLY, UH, CONVERT IT FROM A NON-CONFORMING USE TO A CON UH, CONFORMING USE. 
          BECAUSE THAT IS ONE OF THE THINGS WE HAVE HEARD FROM FOLKS IS GREAT. 
          I'M NON-CONFORMING. 
          I'M COULD STILL RUN MY BUSINESS AND ALL THAT, BUT IF I EVER NEED TO REFINANCE OR DO THINGS LIKE THAT, A LOT OF BANKS WON'T TOUCH NON-CONFORMING USES. 
          SO THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT WILL ACTUALLY ALLOW A NON-CONFORMING USE TO BE CONVERTED INTO A CONFORMING USE. 
          UM, SO THAT, THAT IS A, A BIG THING THAT, UH, REALLY CAN'T BE UNDERSTATED THAT WE DO NOT HAVE IN OUR CODE NOW THAT WE BELIEVE WILL, UM, WILL ALLOW. 
          UM, AND, AND IT'S IMPORTANT BECAUSE IT ALLOWS THE NEIGHBORS TO ALSO GIVE FEEDBACK BECAUSE AS MARTIN SAID, UM, TYPICALLY THINGS ARE NONCONFORMING BECAUSE THE NEIGHBORHOOD HAS CHANGED AROUND IT. 
          AND SO, AGAIN, ALLOWING FOR, UH, THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT WOULD ALLOW FOR THE NEIGHBORS TO HAVE, UM, AN OPPORTUNITY TO GIVE FEEDBACK, UH, PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION TO REVIEW, AS WELL AS CITY COUNCIL. 
          SO THAT IS A BIG THING THAT YES, REALLY CANNOT BE UNDERSTATED. 
          SO IT, IT REALLY MAKES THAT PROCESS MUCH MORE TRANSPARENT. 
          IT, UH, AGAIN, AS RYAN SAID, IT ALLOWS YOU TO GO THROUGH THAT PUBLIC PROCESS. 
          UM, AND THEN IT'S NOT JUST ON STAFF TO SAY YES OR NO. 
          UM, I'M SORRY, I'M GONNA USE THE LIONS FAMILY 'CAUSE I HAPPEN TO KNOW THEM AND THEIR BUSINESS. 
          SURE. 
          SO LIONS DISTRIBUTION CAN OPERATE UNDER THIS NEW COATING AS THEY CURRENTLY OPERATE. 
          [01:15:01]
CORRECT. 
          UM, UH, BECKY AND RANDY DECIDE THEY NO LONGER WANT THE BUSINESS. 
          THEY'RE GONNA SELL IT TO YOU, MARTIN. 
          SO IF, SINCE THE BUSINESS IS BEING SOLD IT TO BE THE EXACT SAME THING, DOES THAT, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE NEW TERM IS, SO I'M GONNA USE GRANDFATHER. 
          NO. 
          DOES THAT GRANDFATHERING FOLLOW SUIT? SINCE THE WHOLE BUSINESS PROPERTY, EVERYTHING DOES NOT CHANGE. 
          IT JUST MOVES FORWARD UNDER NEW OWNERSHIP. 
          DOES THEN ANYTHING CHANGE OR NO. 
          ARE WE'RE ALL THE SAME. 
          SO THE ONLY TIME IT CHANGES IS IF BECKY AND RANDY RETIRE, THEY SHUT THE BUSINESS DOWN AND THE NEXT PERSON COMES IN TO JUST BUY THE EMPTY PROPERTY, THEN THEY HAVE TO PICK UP AND ADHERE TO THE NEW CODE IF THEY'RE GONNA DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT. 
          IF THEY'RE GOING TO JUST CONTINUE THAT USE, IT'S NOT EVEN ABOUT THE BUSINESS ITSELF. 
          OKAY. 
          IT'S ABOUT THAT USE. 
          IF THEY'RE GONNA COME IN AND DO THE SAME EXACT USE THAT WAS DONE THERE BEFORE. 
          AND I WOULD GO SO FAR AS TO SAY WE'RE PRETTY FLEXIBLE ON THAT, IF IT'S A A USE THAT'S REALLY SIMILAR. 
          UM, SO IT'S A PRODUCT THAT GOES THROUGH A SIMILAR, SIMILAR PROCESS THAT WHAT YOU GUYS ARE DOING OR HAVE DONE IN THE PAST, EVEN IF IT'S NOT THE SAME PRODUCT, WE'RE NOT GONNA BE THAT PICKY ABOUT IT. 
          UM, WHAT I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, UM, MR. LEITZ IS, IS, UM, CONCERNED ABOUT IS THE FACT THAT IT, BECAUSE IT'S A NON-PERFORMING USE, YOU CAN'T EXPAND THE USE. 
          SO YOU CAN'T MAKE THE, YOU CAN'T MAKE THE THE BUILDING BIGGER. 
          AND THAT'S PART OF THE CURRENT CODE. 
          UM, THIS DOESN'T CHANGE THAT. 
          THE WHAT, BUT WHAT, AGAIN, WHAT RYAN WAS DESCRIBING IS THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY THERE IN THE NEW CODE THAT WASN'T, THAT ISN'T IN OUR CURRENT CODE TO, TO SAY, OKAY, IF EVERYBODY IN THE PROCESS FEELS LIKE IT STILL FITS AND CAN FIT, THEN IT BRINGS IT INTO CONFORMITY, AND THEN THEY DON'T HAVE AN ISSUE MOVING FORWARD. 
          BUT IT HAS TO GO THROUGH THAT PUBLIC PROCESS. 
          SO AN OCCUPANTS OCCUPANCY STATUS CHANGE IN THE BUILDING IF IT WAS SEWED, WOULD TRIGGER THE NEW CODE GOING IN? CORRECT? NOT, NOT AN OCCUPANCY CHANGE. 
          A USE CHANGE, YES. 
          SO IF I'M DOING A, SAY WE'RE DOING THIS SMALL MANUFACTURING THING THERE THAT'S BEEN DONE FOR THE LAST 20 YEARS. 
          IF I COME IN AND I DECIDE I'M GONNA DO, UM, AUTO REPAIR, AUTO REPAIR, LET'S, LET'S SAY AUTO REPAIRS, UH, IS ALLOWED. 
          I DON'T THINK IT ENOUGH, BUT LET'S SAY THAT IT IS, I GO IN AND I DO AUTO REPAIR IN THE SAME STRUCTURE, THEN IT, IF IT'S ALLOWED, THEN YOU CAN'T GO BACK TO A NON-CONFORMING USE. 
          YOU CAN'T BACKTRACK TO SOMETHING THAT WASN'T, THAT WASN'T ORIGINALLY ALLOWED, EVEN IF IT WAS DONE THERE BEFORE. 
          DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? YES. 
          BUT IF THE BUILDING WAS VACANT AND THEY MOVED OUT OF IT, AND THEN ANOTHER BUYER CAME ALONG, THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO PURCHASE THE BUILDING AND ESSENTIALLY HAVE THE SAME TYPE OF BUSINESS IN THAT BUILDING AGAIN, EVEN IF THERE WAS A GAP OF TIME IN BETWEEN I AS, AS LONG AS IT'S LESS THAN 12 MONTHS. 
          THAT'S CORRECT. 
          OKAY. 
          SO THEN THAT BRINGS ME TO MY NEXT QUESTION, IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I HAD ASKED IN OUR WORK SESSION THAT WE DID, UM, AND I APOLOGIZE THAT I WASN'T HERE AT THE LAST MEETING, BUT I DID GO BACK AND WATCH IT TO SEE IF IT WAS PRESENTED, THE DIFFERENCES, UM, THE, THE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN, AND Y'ALL APPEARED TO BE A LITTLE SHOCKED THAT IT WAS 12 MONTHS AND THEN NOW SAYS SIX MONTHS OR WHAT HAVE YOU. 
          I I'M KIND OF ANXIOUS ABOUT THESE SIDEBAR DIFFERENCES THAT THEY BROUGHT TO OUR ATTENTION TO YOUR ATTENTION THAT ARE IN THE NEW CODE THAT WEREN'T CAUGHT BY STAFF. 
          WHAT'S THAT? WEREN'T CAUGHT BY STAFF. 
          THAT WEREN'T CAUGHT BY STAFF. 
          IT'S, IT'S TWO 400 PAGE DOCUMENTS IN ORDER TO SHOW YOU ALL OF THE DIFFERENCES. 
          I'LL JUST GIVE YOU BOTH OF THE DOCUMENTS. 
          I I DON'T KNOW ANY OTHER WAY TO DO IT. 
          NO, AND I UNDERSTAND, I GUESS IF THERE WAS A CHANGE THAT WAS MADE THOUGH THAT THERE WAS A NOTATION OF A CHANGE THAT WAS MADE. 
          SO THOSE ARE THINGS THAT IT'S, IT'S CONCERNING LIKE THE, THE, THE WAREHOUSE, YOU KNOW, THAT THAT CHANGE THAT'S, THERE'S, THERE'S SOME CHANGES THAT I DON'T, I DON'T THINK THAT THAT'S CHANGED BECAUSE I THINK THAT HAPPENS RIGHT NOW. 
          IF THERE'S A CHANGE IN, IN, UM, IN THE ZONING USE IN THE, IN THE ZONING USE IN 12 MONTHS, AND IT HASN'T BEEN RENEWED. 
          THAT HAPPENS NOW. 
          THAT MIGHT'VE BEEN WHY IT WASN'T ON THE LIST, BECAUSE THAT'S IN EFFECT NOW. 
          RIGHT. 
          BUT YOU'RE SAYING THAT IT CHANGED TO SIX MONTHS IS WHAT IT ACTUALLY READ THE SIX MONTHS. 
          YES. 
          BUT I'M, I'M, BUT IN REFERRING, AND IT SOUNDS LIKE MAYBE MR. SCRIBNER IS, IS WILLING TO MAYBE LOOK AT THAT AND, AND FIX THAT. 
          ABSOLUTELY. 
          BECAUSE I DON'T THINK THE, THE POINT IS TO, TO TARGET A SMALL BUSINESS. 
          MM-HMM . 
          I THINK THE, THE POINT IS THAT THERE'S OTHER SITUATIONS WHERE THE NEIGHBORHOODS HAVE CHANGED. 
          AND I CAN TELL YOU BECAUSE WE'VE HAD, WE HAD, WE HAD THE FITS WITH THAT, AND IT'S STILL SOMEWHAT HERE IN, IN WEST BAYTOWN WITH, WITH OUR BUSINESSES THAT ARE JUST SITTING THERE BECAUSE THERE WAS A CHANGE AND THEY SAT THERE FOR SO LONG AND NOW YOU KNEW IT. 
          BUT 
          [01:20:01]
I, I THINK THAT IF THEY'RE WILLING TO WORK WITH, WITH THE PEOPLE AND, AND I THINK HAVING PEOPLE COME AND SPEAK, I THINK, THINK THIS HAS BEEN A, A GREAT EYEOPENER. 
          LET, LET ME BE REAL CLEAR. 
          THINGS WILL BE MISSED. 
          THERE'S NO WAY AROUND IT. 
          THESE DOCUMENTS ARE VERY TECHNICAL. 
          THEY'RE VERY LONG AND THEY'RE VERY DETAILED. 
          THINGS WILL BE MISSED. 
          WHAT I STARTED THE WHOLE THING WITH WAS, WE ARE GOING TO BE TWEAKING THIS. 
          SO IF SOMEBODY CAME TO ME, IF MR. LEITZ CAME TO ME AND SAID, LOOK, THIS USED TO BE 12 MONTHS, NOW, SIX MONTHS, WHAT'S THE DEAL? WE WOULD IMMEDIATELY LOOK AT THAT AND GO, UH, YEAH, WE PROBABLY NEED TO BRING THAT TO PLANNING COMMISSION AND CITY COUNCIL TO SAY THAT WASN'T SOMETHING THAT WE ANTICIPATED BEING A CHANGE. 
          SO I DON'T WANT ANYBODY TO THINK THIS IS GOING TO BE AN ABSOLUTE 100% DOCUMENT. 
          I DON'T THINK THAT'S POSSIBLE. 
          SO WE HOPE TO GET IT TO THAT OVER THE NEXT 12 TO 24 MONTHS. 
          SO I HOPE THAT MAKES IT CLEAR. 
          WE ARE TRYING TO PROVIDE AS MUCH CLARITY AS WE CAN. 
          UM, BUT AGAIN, MY STAFF AND I LIVE THE DOCUMENT AND YOU GUYS DON'T, SO I DON'T EXPECT YOU TO GET IN AND SEE EVERY LITTLE DETAIL. 
          BUT WE ALSO AREN'T, WE AREN'T GONNA CATCH EVERYTHING. 
          IT'S JUST, IT IS THE NATURE OF THIS PROCESS. 
          UM, I'D I'D LIKE TO KIND OF GO THROUGH AND HIT A FEW MORE OF THE, THE CONCERNS THAT CAME UP DURING THE PUBLIC HEARING. 
          UM, SO WE, WE DID, UM, IN FACT, MY, MY ENTIRE PLANNING STAFF MET WITH, UM, MR. AND MRS. HOW, AND, UH, MR. LYONS, AND WE DID KIND OF GO THROUGH SOME OF THESE THINGS. 
          UM, WE TALKED ABOUT THE, THE BUILDING SIZES AND THE, THE NONCONFORMITIES. 
          SOME OF THE THINGS THAT, UM, THAT YOU HAD MENTIONED, UM, TALKING ABOUT RELOCATION THERE. 
          I, I THINK THERE'S A MIX UP OF THE KIND OF THE, THE CONCEPT, THE CONCEPTS IN THE, IN THE CODE. 
          BECAUSE WE'RE NEVER GOING TO REQUIRE RELOCATION. 
          THERE'S NOTHING IN THE CODE THAT REQUIRES RELOCATION OF A NON-CONFORMING USE. 
          I CAN'T SEE THAT WE WOULD EVER HAVE A REASON TO DO THAT. 
          THERE MAY BE SOMETHING AT ANOTHER LEVEL THAT WOULD KICK IT TO THAT, BUT I DON'T THINK THAT'S PART OF THE CODE. 
          IF THERE IS A RELOCATION AND THERE'S SOMETHING ABOUT COMPENSATION, AGAIN, THAT'S NOT, THAT'S NOT PART OF A ZONING CODE, THAT'S PART OF STATE LAW, YOUR HONOR. 
          UM, CAN YOU GO MM-HMM . 
          SEE WHAT SHE'S TALKING ABOUT? UM, I'LL, I'LL COME BACK TO THAT. 
          RYAN'S GONNA COME AND TAKE A LOOK AT THAT SO WE CAN ADDRESS IT. 
          UM, BUT AGAIN, IN MY 25 YEAR CAREER, I CAN'T REMEMBER A TIME WHERE WE'VE EVER REQUIRED AN NONCONFORMING USE TO RELOCATE. 
          AND I'M NOT SURE WHERE THAT COMES FROM. 
          I'LL IT REAL QUICK. 
          OKAY. 
          RYAN'S GONNA RESEARCH THAT RIGHT AWAY. 
          MM-HMM . 
          UM, A AND AGAIN, SOME OF THE OTHER, UH, ABANDONED NON-CONFORMITY CONVERSATION ABOUT AMORTIZATION AND THE JUSTIFICATION, THE TIME FOR COMPLIANCE. 
          AND WHO DETERMINES, UM, THAT, AGAIN, I THINK WE'VE KIND OF ADDRESSED SOME OF THAT. 
          IT'S REALLY UP TO STAFF. 
          UM, IT COMES BACK TO, UH, IT COMES BACK TO ME. 
          IT COMES BACK TO THE DIRECTOR OF THE DEPARTMENT. 
          THAT'S STRUCTURE, STRUCTURES, STRUCTURES. 
          WE, WE'LL COME BACK, WE'LL COME BACK TO YOU ON THAT, BECAUSE THAT'S, AGAIN, NOT SOMETHING THAT I'VE EVER SEEN HAPPEN. 
          NOT EITHER. 
          NO. 
          UM, THERE MAY BE SOME, IF IT'S AN EXTENUATING CIRCUMSTANCE OR SOMETHING, WE'RE GONNA NEED A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME TO, TO LOOK AT THAT. 
          UM, I DID ALSO WANT TO, UH, SPEAK TO, UH, MR. VALOR'S, UM, COMMENTS. 
          WE HAVE BEEN IN CONVERSATIONS WITH, UM, HIM AND HIS FAMILY AS WELL REGARDING THEIR SPECIFIC PROPERTY. 
          THEIR PROPERTY IS, UM, AN OUTLIER. 
          SO WE ARE ACTIVELY WORKING TOWARDS FINDING SOLUTIONS FOR THAT PROPERTY. 
          WE WERE, WE HAVE BEEN TRYING TO INCORPORATE THAT INTO THE NEW CODE, BUT IT'S VERY, VERY COMPLICATED. 
          SO SPECIFIC TO THEIR PROPERTY. 
          I WANT TO KIND OF STAY AWAY FROM THAT CONVERSATION, UM, WITH, WITH THIS, WITH THIS, UM, CODE CHANGE, BUT TO TALK ABOUT, UM, GAS STATIONS, THE PROLIFERATION OF GAS STATIONS THAT HAS COME UP BEF WITH MORE THAN ONE PERSON. 
          UM, I, GAS STATIONS 
          [01:25:01]
AREN'T CURRENTLY ALLOWED IN, UM, GC. 
          RIGHT. 
          IN YOUR GENERAL COMMERCIAL ZONE, UH, ARE THEY ALLOWED IN, UH, NEIGHBORHOODS SERVING COMMERCIAL GAS STATIONS? I THINK THEY ARE. 
          YES. 
          YES. 
          MM-HMM . 
          AND WHAT ABOUT IN MIXED USE? SO RIGHT NOW, THEY'RE ONLY ALLOWED IN THOSE TWO ZONES. 
          UM, THE TWO COMMERCIAL ZONES. 
          UM, YOU, THERE'S NOT A GOOD WAY TO SAY NO GAS STATIONS IN ONE OF THOSE. 
          I, I SUPPOSE YOU COULD. 
          UM, BUT WE, ONCE WE GET INTO THAT SORT OF MICROMANAGEMENT OF SOME OF THOSE ZONES, IT'S GOING TO BE VERY, VERY DIFFICULT. 
          I DON'T DISAGREE. 
          I DON'T FEEL LIKE WE NEED ANY MORE GAS STATIONS. 
          BUT AGAIN, THIS IS A MARKET DRIVEN THING. 
          IT'S LIKE SAYING THERE'S, YOU KNOW, TOO MANY HOTELS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. 
          IT, IT'S GONNA BE DRIVEN BY WHAT THEY THINK THEY CAN MAKE MONEY ON. 
          SO, SHOW THE QUESTION. 
          CAN I, WE, UH, IMPLEMENT, OH, GOD BLESS YOU. 
          EXCUSE ME. 
          YES, MA'AM. 
           IMPLEMENT AN ORDINANCE WHERE WE CAN'T HAVE ANOTHER, UH, MULTIFAMILY WITHIN SO MANY FEET OF ANOTHER MULTIFAMILY. 
          AND DIDN'T WE DO SOMETHING ABOUT SELF STORAGE ALSO? SO WE DO HAVE A FEW USES LIKE THAT. 
          CURRENTLY THEY'RE NOT IN THE CODE. 
          THOSE ARE POLICY DOCUMENTS BY CITY COUNCIL. 
          SO RIGHT NOW, WE WOULD NOT BE CHANGING ANY OF THOSE BECAUSE THEY ARE ALREADY BY POLICY. 
          THE BEAUTY OF IT BEING BY POLICY IS THAT COUNSEL CAN DECIDE TO WAIVE THAT POLICY IF THEY THINK THAT IT'S A, A PARTICULAR CIRCUMSTANCE, WHICH THEY HAVE DONE, UM, IN, IN CERTAIN CIRCUMSTANCES. 
          TO ADD, TO BE ABLE TO ADD NO GAS STATIONS WITHIN, I DON'T KNOW, HOWEVER MANY FEET IS DECIDED. 
          I MEAN, TWO BLOCKS INSTEAD OF WORKING NO MORE THAN FIVE WITHIN A BLOCK, THE SAME BLOCK. 
          CAN I MAKE A COMMENT? YOU COULD, CAN I MAKE A COMMENT FOR THAT? I'M A BUSINESS OWNER. 
          WE HAVE OTHER BUSINESS OWNERS HERE. 
          IF, IF THE AREA IS ZONED FOR THAT BUSINESS, YOU'VE GOTTA LET THE BUSINESS BE IN BUSINESS. 
          OTHERWISE, THE CITY'S GONNA BE, I'M, I'M NOT A LAWYER. 
          I SAW ONE ON TV ONE TIME. 
          MM-HMM . 
          YOU'RE GONNA BE DEFENDING A LOT OF LAWSUITS. 
          IF IT'S ZONED, THE ONLY OPTION WOULD BE CHANGING THE ZONE TO ALLOW THAT BUSINESS AS WE DID IN THE LAST TWO MEETINGS OVER ON WARD ROAD. 
          WELL, YOU ARE NOW GONNA HAVE FOUR GAS STATIONS ON EACH CORNER. 
          SO ONCE IT'S BEEN ZONED, THE BUSINESS CAN PUT WHATEVER IS ALLOWED IN THE ZONE. 
          THAT'S CORRECT. 
          SO THE CONVERSATION IS, IS WHAT DO YOU WANT IN THE ZONE? NOT WHETHER YOU CAN KEEP THE BUSINESS OUT. 
          I AGREE. 
          I I'M JUST NOT SURE WHY WE NEED MORE TAQUERIAS OR GAS STATIONS. 
          ALL GUNSHOTS. 
          YEAH. 
          WHATEVER. 
          BUT IT'S ZONED. 
          WELL, AM I, AM I CORRECT IN THAT ASSUMPTION? NO, BUT THE, BUT THE PROBLEM IS, NUMBER ONE, IS I AGREE WITH, WITH MR. SCRIBNER, IT IS WHAT THE MARKET REQUIRES. 
          AND YOU HAVE  BECAUSE PEOPLE GO TO 'EM. 
          YES. 
          BUT THERE IS THINGS SUCH AS, UM, STORAGE FACILITIES AND, AND WHAT WAS THE OTHER ONE? APARTMENTS. 
          APARTMENTS. 
          THAT, THAT CANNOT BE, THAT WERE PUT INTO THROUGH A POLICY THAT I THINK THAT THE, MY CONCERN, FOR EXAMPLE, WITH GAS STATIONS IS THAT THERE'S, UH, AN ISSUE WHEN THEY'RE NOT GAS STATIONS ANYMORE. 
          BECAUSE THERE'S SOMEONE, FOR EXAMPLE, IN THE OLDER AREAS THAT HAVE, OR EVEN THE ONES THAT ARE THERE THAT ARE NOT TAKEN CARE OF, AND THEY'RE LEAKING AND, AND THEN THE PROPERTY CAN'T BE SOLD AND JUST SITS THERE. 
          WE HAVE AN EXAMPLE ON TO EXAMINE YOU SOMEWHERE. 
          UM, SO I, I THINK THAT INCLUDING SOMETHING LIKE GAS STATIONS, I KNOW WHAT, WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, MIKE, AND I AGREE WITH YOU TO SOME EXTENT, BUT I THINK THAT THERE ARE CERTAIN BUSINESSES THAT MAYBE NEED TO BE REGULATED A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY BECAUSE OF THE IMPACTS THEY HAVE. 
          LIKE, FOR EXAMPLE, WHAT APARTMENT THE IMPACTS DEPARTMENT COMPLEXES HAVE, WE HAVE SO MANY OF THEM. 
          AND STORAGE FACILITY IS THE SAME THING. 
          WE HAVE SO MANY OF THEM. 
          AND, YOU KNOW, HERE'S ANOTHER BUSINESS THAT'S A SPECIAL CIRCUMSTANCE. 
          I MEAN, IF YOU WANNA OPEN UP WHATEVER, AND IT'S ALLOWED, GO FOR IT. 
          BUT THERE'S BUSINESSES THAT WE HAVE AS A CITY, I THINK THAT WE HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY BECAUSE OF WHAT THE CITIZENS SAY. 
          AND, AND I AGREE WITH THAT BECAUSE IF YOU HAVE TOO MANY COMPETING GAS STATIONS, SOME OF THEM TRYING GO OUT ARE INEVITABLY GONNA SHUT DOWN. 
          AND THEN THAT PROPERTY GAS STATION SPECIFIC HAS ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES AND YOU CAN'T TURN IT NECESSARILY INTO ANOTHER GAS STATION. 
          YOU HAVE TO GET, YOU KNOW, TCQ GETS INVOLVED IN ALL OF THAT. 
          SO IT, IT IS A, IT IS A REAL CONCERN. 
          I, I THINK IF YOU WANTED TO SAY, OKAY, SO NO GAS STATIONS IN THE NEW NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL ZONE, UM, YOU COULD DO THAT. 
          THAT'S, THAT'S AN ACROSS THE BOARD CHANGE THAT WOULD BE, UH, THAT WOULD BE FAIR TO EVERYONE. 
          YOU SAY IT'S NO LONGER ALLOWED IN THIS ZONE. 
          YOU CAN DO THAT. 
          UM, WHAT YOU, WHAT I DON'T SEE HAPPENING IS SAYING YOU CAN'T HAVE IT IN GENERAL COMMERCIAL. 
          THAT'S WHERE MOST OF THEM ARE NOW, IS LIKE ALONG GARTH OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. 
          THAT NOT ALL OF THEM, I UNDERSTAND THEY'RE ALL OVER THE CITY. 
          UM, BUT IF YOU DRIVE DOWN GARTH, THAT'S, THAT'S PROBABLY THE BEST EXAMPLE. 
          UM, THOSE, IF YOU CAN'T PICK A CORNER AND SAY YOU CAN'T HAVE IT AT THIS CORNER, CAN YOU DO A DISTANCE, UH, REQUIREMENT? WE DO IT WITH OTHER THINGS. 
          SO I WOULD ASSUME WE COULD DO A DISTANCE THING. 
          UM, I, I WOULDN'T 
          [01:30:01]
RECOMMEND DOING IT IN THE CODE. 
          I KIND OF, I KIND OF LIKE THE COUNCIL POLICY. 
          'CAUSE THEN IT ALLOWS SOME FLEXIBILITY IF THERE'S SOME EXTENUATING CIRCUMSTANCES. 
          UM, BUT THAT WOULD BE A DIFFERENT CONVERSATION AND THAT COULD HAPPEN NOW. 
          UM, BUT THAT'S NOT PART OF THE, NOT THE, TO THIS POINT. 
          IT'S NOT PART OF THE ZONING CONVERSATION. 
          UM, THANK YOU. 
          THERE'S A PRIME EXAMPLE. 
          MARTIN AT, UM, CEDAR BOW CROSBY ROAD IN MASSEY TOMPKINS. 
          AND THERE'S A SIGN ON EACH CORNER THAT SAYS, COMING SOON, SOON. 
          AND THEY'RE CONVENIENCE STORES AND GAS STATIONS, AND THERE'S AN OLDER ONE ON ONE CORNER. 
          IT'S GONNA BE GONE. 
          I MEAN, IT'LL, IT WON'T HAVE ANY BUSINESS. 
          SO IT'LL BE GONE CANNIBALIZE IT AND IT'LL SIT THERE, A VACANT BUILDING FOREVER BECAUSE THE TANKS CAN'T TAKEN OUT. 
          SO I THINK, YOU KNOW, THERE WAS PROBABLY A WAY WHEN WE ZONED THAT PROPERTY, IF WE'D KNOWN BOTH OF 'EM, WERE GONNA DO GAS STATIONS. 
          WE MIGHT NOT HAVE ZONED IT THE SAME. 
          I DON'T KNOW. 
          BUT IT, THAT'S, THAT'S GOING BEYOND WHAT IT SHOULD BE. 
          YEAH. 
          I MEAN, THERE SHOULD NOT BE ONE ON BOTH SIDES OF THE STREET IN THE SAME LOCATION. 
          I MEAN, I, I DON'T DISAGREE WITH YOU. 
          YEAH. 
          BUT IT HAPPENS EVERYWHERE. 
          SO I DON'T KNOW IF I'VE SEEN ONE THAT CLOSE  , I KNOW OF LOTS OF CLOSE INTERSECTIONS WHERE THERE'S TWO ON THE SAME INTERSECTION. 
          MM-HMM. 
          AND THERE, I MEAN, THAT'S EVERYWHERE. 
          IT'S MORE LIKE A FREEWAY ISSUE. 
          I MEAN, YOU DON'T SEE IT IN THAT KIND OF A LOCATION USUALLY. 
          YEAH. 
          ONE OF THE THINGS I WANT TO KIND OF STAY AWAY FROM ONE OF THE PIECES IN OUR CODE NOW, WHICH WE'RE, WHICH WE'RE CONTINUING ON WITH, UM, BECAUSE WE DON'T, WE DON'T WANT TO UPSET THE APPLE CART ON THAT ONE, IS THE LOCATION OF TRUCK STOPS IN OUR CODE CURRENTLY. 
          MM-HMM . 
          TRUCK STOPS ARE ALLOWED IN GC, BUT ONLY IF THEY'RE WITHIN 2000 FEET OF THOMPSON ROAD AND I 10 THE ONLY SPOT IN TOWN, THEY'RE ALLOWED. 
          WE'RE NOT CHANGING THAT ALL EXCEPT WE'RE CHANGING IT TO FC BECAUSE WE'RE REZONING THAT, THAT CORNER TO FC. 
          UM, I, I DON'T LIKE, UM, IN MY PROFESSIONAL EX, UH, EXPERIENCE, I'VE NOT SEEN GOOD EXPERIENCES WITH THAT TYPE OF, OF GETTING INTO THE MINUTIA LIKE THAT. 
          IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT, GIVE IT ITS OWN ZONE AND REASON THAT PROPERTY TO THAT, UM, SO I'M NOT A FAN OF DOING IT LIKE IT IS IN THE CODE. 
          NOW, IF YOU WANTED TO DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT WITH GAS STATIONS, YOU COULD, BUT IT, IT, IT, I THINK IT MAKES THINGS MESSY. 
          I THINK IT OPENS US UP TO POTENTIAL ISSUES IN THE FUTURE. 
          UM, SO I, I WOULD, LIKE I SAID, IF ANYBODY REMEMBERS THAT, THAT'S WHAT THAT, WHAT THE CODE SAYS NOW, I WOULD RECOMMEND AGAINST THAT. 
          SO I, I WOULD FEEL BETTER ABOUT A POLICY THAT, THAT WE COULD THEN KIND OF PLAY WITH A LITTLE BIT. 
          MARTIN, CAN YOU ADDRESS THE MISSING SECTION THEY TALKED ABOUT? SO THAT REFERS TO CHAPTER 18, THE BUILDING CODE. 
          AND, UM, THE SOFTWARE THAT IS CURRENTLY HOSTING THE CODE DOES NOT TALK BACK TO OUR MUNI CODE SYSTEM. 
          THAT'S ALL IT IS. 
          SO IT'S JUST SAYING THAT, UM, IT, THE CHAPTER 18 THAT WE'RE REFERENCING IS CHAPTER 18 IN THE CITY CODE, WHICH IS THE BUILDING CODE. 
          SO BEFORE THE CODE IS, UH, FINALIZED, ANY LINKS THAT ARE IN THERE WILL BE POINTING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. 
          SO THAT'LL BE SOMETHING THAT'LL MM-HMM . 
          THERE ARE STILL SOME LINKS THERE THAT DON'T WORK. 
          THERE ARE SOME DEFINITIONS THAT DON'T EXIST THAT WE'RE WORKING ON TRYING TO GET THOSE UPDATED. 
          SO YOU HIT THE LINK AND IT GOES TO THE DEFINITION. 
          YEP. 
          SAME, SAME TYPE OF THING. 
          IT'S, IT'S A, ITS A SOFTWARE ISSUE, BUT WE'LL GET THERE. 
          UM, I DID WANT TO, UM, ADDRESS ONE OTHER COMMENT THAT HAS COME UP, UH, FROM A COUPLE DIFFERENT PEOPLE TONIGHT. 
          AND THAT IS ABOUT TAXES. 
          UM, THIS DOCUMENT DOES NOT CHANGE THE TAXING ON ANY PROPERTY IN TOWN. 
          UM, JUST, AND EVEN IF YOU CHANGE THE ZONING ON A PROPERTY, IT DOES NOT CHANGE THE TAXES. 
          JUST SO EVERYBODY'S REAL CLEAR ON THAT. 
          UM, THIS CODE DOES NOT ANTICIPATE WHAT THE TAXING IS OR HOW IT WORKS. 
          IT IS COMPLETELY SEPARATE FROM THAT. 
          AND IT IS DESIGNED TO BE THAT WAY FOREVER. 
          I'M TRYING TO BE REAL DEFINITIVE ON THAT. 
          MM-HMM . 
          IN PERPETUITY THROUGHOUT THE UNIVERSE. 
          , UM, MARTIN, HAS ALL THE QUESTIONS BEEN ANSWERED? 'CAUSE I DID HAVE ONE MORE THING I WANTED TO ASK. 
          UH, LET ME LOOK REAL QUICK. 
          I THINK SO OTHER THAN WE'RE STILL KIND OF LOOKING AT SOME OF THE STUFF THAT MICHELLE, HOW HAS, HAS, UH, BROUGHT UP OR REGARDING THAT RELOCATION STUFF. 
          OKAY. 
          OTHER THAN THAT, I THINK WE'RE, YEAH. 
          OKAY, COOL. 
          SO THE ONLY OTHER THING THAT I WAS CONCERNED ABOUT IS I DIDN'T READ A WHOLE LOT ABOUT DETENTION AND FLOODING AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. 
          AND COMING FROM SOMEBODY WHO SPENT SIX YEARS REBUILDING HURRICANE HARVEY HOMES, THAT WAS VERY CONCERNING TO ME. 
          AND, UM, I'D, I'D LIKE FOR US TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE PROTECTING THE EXISTING HOMES, THAT WE ARE PROTECTING THE EXISTING STREETS, THAT WE ARE PROTECTING, ALL OF THAT KIND OF STUFF. 
          UM, SO I, I JUST WANTED, I JUST DIDN'T SEE ENOUGH IN THE, IN THAT SECTION, UM, 
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THE, THAT TYPE OF INFORMATION, THOSE REGULATIONS ARE PART OF THE SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS, WHICH ARE INSIDE THE ULDC. 
          THOSE ARE BEING CARRIED OVER. 
          I DON'T BELIEVE WE, WE'RE NOT CHANGING ANYTHING. 
          WE'RE REALLY MAKING ANY CHANGES TO THOSE. 
          BUT AS WE BUILD, 'CAUSE I MEAN, EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS WHY WE FLOOD, RIGHT? MM-HMM . 
          AS WE BUILD, WE'RE BUILDING CONCRETE OVER GRASS, WHICH GOD'S DESIGNED TO SUCK UP THE WATER. 
          SO, I MEAN, AS WE'RE BUILDING, WE'RE GONNA CREATE MORE AND MORE FLOOD PROBLEMS IF WE DO NOT ADDRESS THIS. 
          AND MAYBE IT NEEDS TO BE RE REWRITTEN AS WE START ELIMINATING GOD'S PURPOSEFUL FILTRATION SYSTEM. 
          I, I THINK THAT IN ITSELF IS A LARGE STUDY AND IT IS NOT ANTICIPATED AS PART OF THIS CHANGE. 
          SO AS OF RIGHT NOW, WE'RE JUST CARRYING OVER THOSE REGULATIONS FROM THE CURRENT CODE. 
          UM, IS THERE ROOM TO DISCUSS THAT IN THE FUTURE? YEP. 
          UM, I WOULD BE SPEAKING TO OUR CITY ENGINEER ROOM. 
          MM-HMM . 
          SO, UM, BECAUSE I'M, I'M NOT A DRAINAGE EXPERT AND I WON'T. 
          RIGHT. 
          I DON'T WANT TO PRESENT THAT. 
          I AM, I I WILL SAY, UM, YOU MENTIONED HARVEY POST HARVEY, THE CITY DID MAKE A LOT OF CHANGES TO OUR CODES AND HAR AND HARRIS COUNTY DID AS WELL. 
          RIGHT? UM, SO THINGS LIKE, UM, THE 500 YEAR FLOODPLAIN IS NOW REGULATED IN THE SAME WAY THE A HUNDRED YEAR FLOODPLAIN IS AND, AND THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          SO, UM, THOSE THINGS, ALL THAT ARE CURRENTLY IN THE CODE ARE BEING CARRIED OVER. 
          SO WE HAVE LEARNED A LOT FROM HARVEY AND, AND HAVE MADE A LOT OF, OF, OF IMPROVEMENTS, UH, POST, UM, HURRICANE HARVEY. 
          SO, UM, BUT YEAH, AS MARTIN SAID, IT PROBABLY, WE PROBABLY NEED TO DO A LARGER STUDY OF THE CITY. 
          BUT THAT'S SOMETHING UNFORTUNATELY THAT IS OUTSIDE OF THIS DEPARTMENT'S PURVIEW. 
          AND I WANNA SAY THANK YOU GUYS. 
          YOU GUYS HAVE DONE A BANG UP JOB. 
          I MEAN, I KNOW THIS HAS BEEN A HECK OF A LOT OF WORK, AND YOU GUYS HAVE GONE ABOVE AND BEYOND TO PRESENT IT PUBLICLY, PRIVATELY, EVERY WAY YOU POSSIBLY CAN. 
          AND I JUST WANNA TELL THE CITIZENS HERE, LIKE, THESE ARE REALLY GREAT PEOPLE. 
          UH, THERE'S NO INTENTION I KNOW FOR A FACT TO HARM ANY SMALL BUSINESSES IN THE CITY. 
          SO JUST KEEP WORKING WITH EVERYBODY AND LET'S KEEP, YOU KNOW, GETTING ALL THE T'S CROSSED AND THE I'S DOTTED. 
          BUT I KNOW FOR A FACT THESE ARE GREAT PEOPLE AND THEY'RE NOT GONNA DO ANYTHING INTENTIONAL. 
          SO REST ASSURED, THANK YOU. 
          ARE, ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? UM, I WANNA REMIND YOU THAT WHAT, YOU HAVE SOME OPTIONS TONIGHT. 
          AGAIN, THIS IS NOT ADOPTION. 
          THIS IS A RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL. 
          AND THAT'S FOR EVERYBODY THAT'S IN THE AUDIENCE AS WELL. 
          THIS IS NOT THE FINAL ACTION. 
          THIS IS A RECOMMENDATION AS AN ADVISORY BOARD TO CITY COUNCIL. 
          CITY COUNCIL WILL THEN MAKE THE FINAL DECISION. 
          CHANGES CAN HAPPEN BETWEEN NOW AND ADOPTION. 
          UM, YOU, YOU HAVE SEVERAL OPTIONS TONIGHT. 
          YOU CAN SAY, I DON'T LIKE IT. 
          RECOMMEND DENIAL. 
          YOU CAN SAY, I, I LIKE IT. 
          RECOMMEND APPROVAL, UH, WITH NO CHANGES. 
          YOU COULD RECOMMEND APPROVAL WITH SOME CONDITIONS. 
          THAT WOULD BE SOME CHANGES. 
          OR YOU COULD SAY, WE NEED TO DISCUSS THIS IN MORE DETAIL. 
          AND THERE ARE CERTAIN THINGS THAT WE NEED MORE TIME ON. 
          AND YOU COULD CONTINUE IT TO, UH, THE AUGUST MEETING. 
          WE, I WILL, UH, IN INTEREST OF FULL DISCLOSURE, WHILE STAFF HAS BEEN WORKING ON THIS A LONG TIME, AND WE'RE KIND OF CHOMPING AT THE BIT TO GET SOME ACTION ON THIS, THERE IS NO REAL TIME LIMIT ON THIS. 
          SO LET ME BE REAL CLEAR ON THAT. 
          IF FOR SOME REASON SOMEBODY FEELS LIKE I, I STILL NEED A LITTLE MORE TIME ON THIS, UM, THAT'S OKAY. 
          IT'S, IT'S NOT A BIG DEAL. 
          I WOULD LOVE TO SEE A, A, AN, UH, UM, A RECOMMENDATION TONIGHT. 
          UM, BUT IF NOT, WE CAN, WE CAN DEAL WITH TIMING ISSUES. 
          SO, UM, SO AGAIN, AND, AND THEN THE, THE OTHER, THE OTHER OPTION YOU HAVE IS IF THERE IS NO CONSENSUS ON ANYTHING, THEN IT GOES FORWARD WITHOUT A RECOMMENDATION AND CITY COUNCILS LEFT IT FIGURED OUT ON THEIR OWN. 
          SO THOSE ARE YOUR OPTIONS TONIGHT. 
          UM, JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT'S REAL CLEAR. 
          SO WITH THAT, UM, IF THERE ARE NO OTHER QUESTIONS, MR. AR I THINK NEEDS TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. 
          THAT'S RIGHT. 
          THAT PROBABLY WOULD BE GOOD. 
          YEAH. 
          . 
          YEAH. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO, UH, CLOSE THIS, UH, PUBLIC HEARING. 
          NOW, DON'T MOTION. 
          I DON'T THINK WE NEED A MOTION. 
          JUST CLOSE IT OUT. 
          SO WE DO NEED A SIX 40. 
          WE NEED WHAT? WE ARE GONNA NEED A MOTION, ANOTHER NOT FOR PUBLIC HEARING. 
          YEAH. 
          SINCE EVERYTHING'S CLEAR AS COULD BE, RIGHT? MUCH. 
          YEAH. 
          IT'S MUCH. 
          YEAH. 
          . 
          ALRIGHT. 
          SO I GUESS I DO NEED A MOTION TO APPROVE. 
          TO APPROVE. 
          I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE. 
          'CAUSE I DO UNDERSTAND WHAT A LIVING DOCUMENT IS, AND I DO KNOW THAT THIS IS GOING TO BE, UM, FOREVER CHANGING AND THAT'S OKAY. 
          UM, BUT, UM, I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE. 
          SECOND, I WOULD REALLY 
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LIKE THE WAREHOUSES TO BE READDRESSED REST. 
          I, I MEAN, OUR COMMUNITY'S SPOKEN UP A LOT ON THIS. 
          Y'ALL JUST DID A LOT OF WORK WITH THE WAREHOUSES AND THE SPECIAL USE PERMITS. 
          AND THIS JUST SEEMS LIKE IT'S GOING BACKWARDS. 
          SO I, I PERSONALLY WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT, THAT THAT PORTION IS, IS I GUESS NOT CHANGED WHEN THEY DID THE TRANSITION. 
          OR WOULD, WOULD YOU LIKE TO RECOMMEND A CONDITION ON, YOU KNOW, AN AMENDMENT TO THE MOTION? I WOULD TO, TO REQUIRE A CONDITION? I, AND I'M STRUGGLING WITH, I GUESS WHAT EXACTLY THAT CONDITION WOULD BE TO NOT TOUCH WAREHOUSES, . 
          SO, SO YOU HAVE A COUPLE OF OPTIONS. 
          YOU COULD, UH, SO CURRENTLY WHAT THE CODE SAYS IS THAT IT IS LIMITED WITH CONDITIONS. 
          MM-HMM . 
          YOU COULD REQUIRE A SPECIAL USE PERMIT. 
          YOU COULD ALSO SAY, NOPE, WE DON'T WANT THEM IN FREEWAY COMMERCIAL. 
          WE ONLY WANT THEM IN LIGHT INDUSTRIAL AND HEAVY INDUSTRIAL. 
          SO THOSE ARE KIND OF WHAT YOUR OPTIONS. 
          AND THAT'S WHERE WE RECENTLY MOVED THEM TO. 
          CORRECT. 
          THAT IS CORRECT. 
          AND, AND OUTSIDE OF THAT WOULD REQUIRE A SPECIAL USE PERMIT OUTSIDE WOULD NOT ALLOW IT AT ALL. 
          IT'S NOT, THEY'RE NOT ALLOWED NOW IN ANYTHING. 
          BUT LIKE INDUSTRIAL, WE, WE HAD A VERY SHORT AMOUNT OF TIME, A COUPLE MONTHS WHERE IT WAS ALLOWED WITH A SPECIAL USE PERMIT AS A, IT WAS A BANDAID, FIXED IT TO GET TO WHERE WE WERE. 
          WE WENT TO NOT ALLOWED OUTSIDE INDUSTRIAL. 
          OKAY. 
          YOU CAN AMEND THE MOTION, NOT, NOT TO MAKE THE CHANGE FROM LIGHT INDUSTRIAL. 
          I WOULD LIKE TO AMEND THE MOTION TO NOT MAKE THE CHANGE. 
          TAKING IT OUT OF LIGHT INDUSTRIAL. 
          I THINK THAT BECAUSE THERE'S A SECOND, I THINK THE AMENDMENT HAS TO BE MADE BY EITHER THE PERSON GIVEN A MOTION OR WE DEFEAT THE MOTION. 
          COMMISSIONER SCOTT WOULD HAVE TO ACCEPT THE AMENDMENT. 
          YES. 
          WHAT'S, I'M ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE OF THIS COIN, GUYS TO, TO NOT HAVE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL AND FREEWAY COMMERCIAL, TO NOT CHANGE THE WAY THE WAREHOUSES ARE NOW LEAVING THEM IN INDUSTRIAL AND NOT MOVING THEM TO FREEWAY COMMERCIAL. 
          I MEAN, WE'VE GOT BUSINESS. 
          CORRECT. 
          CAN I MAKE A CLEAR, I'LL MAKE A CLARIFICATION ON THAT. 
          I THINK THE EASIEST WAY TO SAY THAT IS TO NOT ALLOW, UH, WAREHOUSING IN FC MM-HMM . 
          THAT'S THE EASIEST WAY TO SAY IT. 
          RIGHT. 
          BUT I THINK IN, IN ORDER FOR US TO MOVE FORWARD, BECAUSE THERE'S BEEN A SECOND AND SHE'S NOT ACCEPTING HER AMENDMENT, IT HAS TO BE VOTED THROUGH. 
          AND IF IT'S DEFEATED, THEN YOU CAN AMEND IT. 
          MM-HMM . 
          OR YOU CAN CREATE A NEW MOTION WITH THAT IN IT. 
          THAT'S CORRECT. 
          THAT'S CORRECT. 
          IF COMMISSIONER SCOTT IS NOT ACCEPTING THE AMENDMENT, THEN YOU ALL NEED TO VOTE ON THE MOTION AS IT WAS MADE. 
          AND SECONDLY, GET THE ER VOTE. 
          ARE WE STILL IN A DISCUSSION MODE HERE ON THIS? YES. 
          OKAY. 
          SO I'M NOT COMFORTABLE WITH SENDING THIS OFF AS AN APPROVAL BECAUSE THERE'S STILL SOME LARGE SECTIONS OF THIS THAT I PERSONALLY HAVEN'T LOOKED AT PART OF IT, BECAUSE OF THE FARM LAST WEEK. 
          AND IT SEEMS LIKE THERE'S STILL A LOT OF QUESTIONS ABOUT SOME OF THE ZONING ASPECTS. 
          UH, LIKE THE JUDGE, I, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE US HOLD THIS OFF UNTIL WE HAVE ANOTHER MEETING IN JULY. 
          UH, I'M ASSUMING IT COULD BE ADDED TO, OR EVEN THE AUGUST MEETING TO HAVE SOME OF THESE ADDRESSED AND DWELLING IN A LITTLE BIT MORE OF IT. 
          PARTICULARLY IF WE'RE GONNA SEND IT OFF WITH SPECIAL CONDITIONS. 
          IT SEEMS TO ME IF WE'RE GONNA START DOING SPECIAL CONDITIONS THAN WE ARE JUST TO PROVE THE DUN CODE AND SEND IT ON THEM, LET 'EM DEAL WITH, YOU KNOW, COUNSEL. 
          BUT, UH, I, I DON'T WANT ANY MORE WAREHOUSES. 
          DON'T GET ME WRONG. 
          I'M JUST SAYING, I DON'T THINK THIS IS THE DOCUMENT THAT WE NEED TO BE SENDING OFF TO COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL. 
          THAT'S MY OPINION. 
          AND I'LL VOTE AGAINST IT. 
          SHALL WE TAKE A VOTE? ALL QUESTION THE, YEAH, I THINK, UH, RICK HAS TO CALL FOR A CALL FOR VOTE. 
          ALL IN FAVOR? OKAY. 
          SO TO RESTATE THE, THE MOTION ON THE TABLE. 
          OKAY. 
          SO I'M, I'M MAKING MOTION TO APPROVE. 
          AND DONNA, SECONDED. 
          OKAY. 
          YEAH. 
          SO I'M MAKING A MOTION TO NO, YOU'RE JUST CALLING THE QUESTION. 
          JUST, JUST CALL FOR A VOTE. 
          OKAY. 
          CALL IN FAVOR. 
          ON APPROVAL. 
          YOU'RE CALLING, CALLING FOR A VOTE. 
          ALL IN FAVOR TO SEND THE DOCUMENT TO CITY COUNCIL? YES. 
          YES. 
          TO SEND THE DOCUMENT TO CITY COUNCIL TO SEND THE DOCUMENT TO THE CITY COUNCIL. 
          . 
          OKAY. 
          FOR APPROVAL. 
          THANK YOU FOR YOUR HELP. 
          FOR APPROVAL. 
          SO, UH, I MAKE A MOTION TO NO, A SHOW OF HANDS. 
          ALL IN FAVOR? OKAY. 
          ALL OPPOSED? ALL OPPOSED. 
          ALL, RICK. 
          IT DOES NOT PASS. 
          OKAY. 
          NOW, RICK, YOU'RE NOT PROSTATE CAN MAKE HER MOTION THAT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT. 
          NOW YOU CAN MAKE A MOTION TO ACCEPT IT WITH THE WAREHOUSE PART. 
          OH, MAN, I GOTTA REMEMBER WHAT I SAID. 
          . 
          RICK, DID YOU VOTE? NO. 
          I'LL, I'LL VOTE TO APPROVE. 
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SO NOW WE'RE, BUT IT LEAVES YOU FOUR TO FOUR, WHICH MEANS NO ACTION. 
          NO ACTION. 
          SO UNDER THE NEXT MOTION, SO I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO DELAY THIS ACTION UNTIL OUR NEXT P AND Z MEETING. 
          UH, I DON'T GET A SECOND IN OF THAT. 
          UM, PAUSE FOR A SECOND. 
          UM, WE HAVE A SPECIAL MEETING COMING ON THE 29TH. 
          CAN WE JUST ADD IT TO THE 29TH? DO WE HAVE TIME TO NOTICE? PLENTY TIME TO, IT DOESN'T NEED TO BE NOTICED. 
          THERE'S NO PUBLIC HEARING, HAVE THE PUBLIC HEARING TONIGHT. 
          SO WE JUST NEED, SO, UM, WHAT, WHAT WE WERE JUST DISCUSSING IS WE HAVE A SPECIAL MEETING COMING UP ON THE 29TH FOR ONE ITEM. 
          IF YOU'D LIKE TO CONTINUE IT TO THE 29TH, YOU COULD, OR IF YOU'RE CONTINUING IT TO THE AUGUST 6TH 20TH MM-HMM. 
          OR THE AUGUST 20TH MEETING, I'LL BE HAPPY TO AMEN. 
          MY MOTION TO THE NEXT MEETING IN JULY, WHICH IS THE 26TH. 
          29TH. 
          29TH. 
          MS. ICK, IF THERE'S NOT A SECOND, IT DIES AND THEN MAKE A MOTION. 
          AND THEN WHAT HAPPENS AT THE 29TH MEETING? I'M, WE, AGAIN, I THINK THE PROPER I'M DEBATE COMMISSION. 
          I THINK THE, THE PROPER I A MOTION RIGHT NOW WOULD BE TO, UM, PER, UH, COMMISSIONER CAUSTIC TO REGE HER MOTION IF SHE WISHES TO. 
          AND IF THERE'S A SECOND TO VOTE ON IT, IF THERE'S NOT A SECOND, UH, THEN IT WILL DIE. 
          AND THEN COMMISSIONER BEARD, BEARD, BEARD, UH, TO URGE HIS MOTION TO MOVE THIS TO ANOTHER AGENDA. 
          AND IF THERE'S A SECOND TO VOTE ON THAT, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE ACCEPT THIS WITH THE, WITH THE EXCEPTION WITH THE WAREHOUSE ISSUE. 
          OTHER THAN THAT, THAT IT GOES TO COUNCIL. 
          YEAH, THAT WAS FINE. 
          I HAVE SECOND. 
          THANK YOU, MS. THANK YOU. 
          NOW YOU CAN CALL FOR A VOTE. 
          OKAY. 
          SO THE MOTION ON THE TABLE IS TO ACCEPT IT WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE WAREHOUSE ISSUES THAT WE'VE DISCUSSED. 
          OKAY. 
          SO, UH, LEAVING IT IN LIGHT INDUSTRIAL AS IS, REMOVE FROM RECOMMEND APPROVAL, REMOVING WAREHOUSING FROM FC. 
          YES. 
          YES. 
          AND IT WAS SECOND BY MS. WEAVER. 
          AND JUST MAKING SURE IT'S CLEAR, LEAVING IT WHERE IT IS. 
          YES. 
          NOT JUST REMOVING IT FROM FC OR LEAVING IT TOOK DON'T DIE OR MOVING IT FROM FC WOULD DO THE JOB. 
          EXACTLY. 
          GOOD DEAL. 
          VOTE ALL THE QUESTION FAVOR. 
          OKAY. 
          ALL IN FAVOR? FIVE. 
          OKAY. 
          YOU KNOW WHAT? ALL OPPOSED? 5 1 2. 
          I'M OPPOSED. 
          OH YEAH, YOU HAD FIVE. 
          YEAH, WE HAVE FIVE. 
          OKAY. 
          ALL OPPOSED, BUT ALL OPPOSED. 
          WAIT, WHAT HAVE WE OPPOSED? I, I'M SORRY. 
          I NEED EVERYONE IN FAVOR OF THIS, OF THIS. 
          PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY, SO I HAVE EVERYONE IN FAVOR EXCEPT FOR DONNA, TAMMY, AND WIFE, CORRECT? YES. 
          SO NOW ALL OPPOSED AND ALL, AND NOW ALL WHO IS OPPOSED? THREE. 
          OKAY. 
          THIS WILL MOVE FORWARD TO, UM, CITY COUNCIL ON THE 25TH OF THIS MONTH, BUT STAFF HAS NOT RECOMMEND, IS NOT REQUESTING, UM, ACTION AT THAT TIME BECAUSE OF THE HURRICANE. 
          WE DO WANT TO GIVE PEOPLE EXTRA TIME. 
          UM, SO WE WILL BE, UM, WE'LL BE ENGAGING WITH COUNCIL IN DISCUSSION, BUT WE'LL TELL 'EM RIGHT UP FRONT. 
          IN FACT, UH, RYAN TOLD THEM LAST WEEK WE WERE NOT GONNA BE SEEKING ACTION AT THAT MEETING. 
          SO THE EARLIEST WE WOULD ANTICIPATE ANY ACTION ON THIS AT CITY COUNCIL WILL BE AUGUST 8TH. 
          AND AGAIN, IF MORE TIME IS NEEDED, THEN IT CAN ALWAYS BE PUSHED A LITTLE BIT. 
          SO, UM, THANK YOU GUYS SO MUCH FOR THE CONVERSATION ON THIS. 
          YES, I KNOW THIS IS A LOT. 
          WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT IT FOR OVER 18 MONTHS, ALMOST TWO YEARS. 
          AND, UM, AND THE PREP FOR THAT WAS PROBABLY TWO YEARS BEFORE, OR AT LEAST A YEAR BEFORE THAT. 
          SO, UM, I GET THAT IT'S OVERWHELMING AND CONFUSING AND, UH, IT, IT IS GONNA CONTINUE TO BE OVERWHELMING AND CONFUSING, UH, UNTIL WE GET DEEPER INTO USING IT AND ARE ABLE TO KIND OF HELP EVERYBODY GET A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF, OF THE DOCUMENT ITSELF. 
          SO THANK YOU GUYS. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          [a.  Receive a report from the Planning Director.]
SO, UH, WE'RE GOOD. 
          UH, UH, MARTIN, UH, PLEASE, UH, TELL US, UH, EVERYTHING YOU HAVE FOR THE DIRECTOR'S REPORT REPORT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UH, FOR DIRECTOR'S REPORT, I REALLY ONLY HAVE TWO ITEMS. I WAS GONNA REMIND YOU THAT WE DO HAVE A SPECIAL MEETING ON THE 29TH THAT IS FOR A, UM, BECAUSE WE HAD, UH, ONE SET UP FOR THE EIGHTH, I BELIEVE, WHICH HAPPENED TO BE THE DAY OF A HURRICANE. 
          WE DIDN'T SCHEDULE THAT HURRICANE , SO WE TRIED OUR BEST TO SCHEDULE IT AROUND THAT, THAT DIDN'T WORK. 
          SO, UH, THAT MEETING WAS CANCELED. 
          UM, WE HAD TO RESCHEDULE TILL THE 29TH BECAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE SUFFICIENT TIME TO NOTICE FOR TONIGHT'S MEETING. 
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UM, HAD WE KNOWN AGAIN, WE WOULD'VE JUST RESCHEDULED FOR TONIGHT. 
          WE JUST, THE, THE STATE LAW DOESN'T ALLOW US TO DO IT THAT, THAT QUICKLY. 
          SO, UM, WE WILL HEAR IT ON THE 29TH, WHICH THAT WILL THEN, UM, MOVE FORWARD TO, UH, AUGUST 8TH FOR CITY COUNCIL. 
          SO THAT ITEM IS, SO PLEASE, UM, IF EVER YOU COULD DO THEIR BEST TO BE HERE THAT NIGHT. 
          UM, I DON'T ANTICIPATE IT'S ONLY THE ONE ITEM, SO I DON'T ANTICIPATE THAT BEING A LONG MEETING. 
          UM, THE OTHER ITEM WAS, YOU MAY HAVE HEARD THAT, UM, COUNCIL RECENTLY PASSED AN ORDINANCE THAT BASICALLY SAYS ANYTIME THERE IS A DISASTER DECLARED BY THE MAYOR, UH, THAT WE ARE WAIVING PERMIT FEES RELATED TO REBUILDING FROM DAMAGE FROM THE, UM, FROM THE DISASTER ITSELF. 
          IT'S REALLY GREAT. 
          SO WE DID IMMEDIATELY ON THE EIGHTH PUT THAT INTO EFFECT AND IT'S GOOD FOR 30 DAYS. 
          UM, SO, UM, JUST WANTED YOU GUYS TO BE AWARE OF THAT. 
          THEY STILL HAVE TO HAVE PERMITS. 
          IT DOESN'T WAIVE THE, THE REQUIREMENT FOR PERMITS, BUT IT DOES, UH, WAIVE THE FEE. 
          SO, UM, WE'RE DOING OUR BEST TO KIND OF GET THOSE PERMITS OUT THE DOOR AS FAST AS WE CAN, UH, TO ANYBODY WHO IS, WHO IS, UM, MR. GRUNER? YES, SIR. 
          A QUESTION ABOUT THAT IS, YES, SIR. 
          IT'S 30 DAYS AFTER THE DISASTER, CORRECT. 
          IS FOR EXAMPLE. 
          WELL, AND AND THAT'S JUST A QUESTION, A POINT OF CLARIFICATION WHEN RIGHT NOW THERE'S SO MANY ADJUSTERS AND STUFF, AND THANKFULLY, YOU KNOW, WE'RE OKAY MILES, BUT I KNOW THERE'S PEOPLE THAT ARE BACKED UP WITH THE ADJUSTERS AND STUFF. 
          IS, IS THAT ENOUGH TIME OR, I MEAN, IT'S FREE. 
          SO I GUESS THERE'S WHATEVER TIME IS, IS GOOD, BUT THE ORDINANCE DOES ALLOW COUNSEL TO EXTEND THAT PERIOD OF TIME. 
          SO, UH, IF THEY, UH, DECIDE THAT IT'S NECESSARY, THEY DO HAVE THAT ABILITY. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          YEP. 
          SO, LIKE I SAID, WE'RE, WE'RE KIND OF, UM, PLANNING'S ROLE IN THE, THE POST-DISASTER IS MORE OF THE DAMAGE ASSESSMENT AND, AND, UM, KIND OF GOING THROUGH AND SURVEYING THE ENTIRE CITY TO SEE WHAT DAMAGES HAVE HAPPENED AND, AND SO, UM, AND THEN AGAIN, HELPING THE REBUILD, UH, PROCESS AND MAKING SURE PEOPLE HAVE WHAT THEY NEED FOR THAT. 
          SO WE'RE REALLY, UM, FROM A STAFF STANDPOINT, NOT JUST PLANNING, BUT I THINK THE ENTIRE CITY STAFF WE'RE REALLY MORE IN THE HELP PEOPLE OUT MODE AND MAKE SURE THAT THEY GET WHAT THEY NEED. 
          BECAUSE WE WERE ALL AFFECTED BY THIS. 
          I WAS OUT OF POWER FOR SIX DAYS MYSELF, SO I GET IT. 
          I UNDERSTAND, UH, CERTAIN PEOPLE ARE STILL OUT OF POWER AND, UH, THANKING GOD THAT WE STILL HAVE AIR CONDITIONING IN CITY HALL. 
          SO, UH, YEAH. 
          UM, SO WE'RE, WE'RE, LIKE I SAID, THE, THE MENTALITY RIGHT NOW IS TO HELP PEOPLE. 
          THE MENTALITY IS IF THERE'S A QUESTION ON WHETHER THERE SHOULD BE A FEAR OR NOT, GO, WE'RE GONNA GIVE YOU THE PERMIT, WE'LL FIGURE THE FEE THING OUT LATER BECAUSE IT CAN'T WAIT. 
          IT'S IMPORTANT. 
          THESE THINGS ARE MORE IMPORTANT. 
          UM, AND, UM, UH, AS COMMISSIONER SCOTT MIGHT HAVE ALLUDED TO EARLIER, WE REALLY ARE ABOUT HELPING THE COMMUNITY AND MAKING SURE THAT EVERYBODY'S GOT WHAT THEY NEED. 
          SO, UM, SO WITH THAT, UH, THAT CONCLUDES MY REPORT. 
          THANK YOU, MARK. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, SO SINCE WE'VE EX EXHAUSTED ALL THE AGENDA ITEMS, UH, THE MEETING IS NOW ADJOURNED. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU.
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