Jun 25, 2024 Baytown Police Advisory Committee

WE'RE GLAD TO HAVE YOU.

YES.

UM, SO THE FIRST ITEM OF THE FIRST ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS CITIZEN COMMENTS.

WE HAVE NO ONE SIGNED UP FOR CITIZEN COMMERCE.

ITEM, UM, FOR CONSIDERATION IS CONSIDERING APPROVING THE MINUTES OF THE BAYTOWN POLICE ADVISORY COMMITTEE MEETING HELD ON TUESDAY, APRIL 24 20 THIRD.

IT'S FOUR PEOPLE.

I THOUGHT FOR SURE WE HAD SOMEONE, SOMEONE WE APPRECIATE THE, UH, THE SUPPORT .

THE NEXT ITEM ON

[a. Consider approving the minutes of the Baytown Police Advisory Committee Meeting held on Tuesday, March 26, 2024.]

THE AGENDA IS MINUTES.

UM, WE WANNA FIRST CONSIDER APPROVING THE MINUTES OF THE BAYTOWN POLICE ADVISORY COMMITTEE MEETING HELD ON TUESDAY, MARCH 26TH, 2024.

DO WE HAVE A FIRST, FIRST, SECOND.

ANY DISCUSSION? ANY, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? ALRIGHT.

SO THE NEXT

[b. Consider approving the minutes of the Baytown Police Advisory Committee Meeting held on Tuesday, April 23, 2024.]

2024.

DO WE HAVE A FIRST, SECOND? ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT.

THE AYES HAVE IT.

I ALWAYS WANNA SAY THAT.

MOVING RIGHT ALONG ON THE AGENDA.

NEXT IS CITIZEN INPUT.

ANYBODY FOR CITIZEN INPUT? OKAY.

CONTINUING

[a. Receive and discuss community input obtained by the Baytown Police Advisory Committee Members.]

ON COMMUNITY INPUT.

THIS IS WHERE WE RECEIVE A DISCUSSED COMMUNITY INPUT OBTAINED BY ANY OF US MEMBERS ON THE BAYTOWN POLICE ADVISORY COMMITTEE.

DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANYTHING THAT THEY WANNA BRING TO THE COMMITTEE FROM YOUR CONSTITUENTS? I, I, I GUESS I CAN PUT SOMETHING OUT THERE.

PUT YOUR MIC ON.

NO, NO WORRIES.

UH, THERE, THERE, IT'S, UM, I WENT TO, UH, THE LISTENING TOUR THAT JACOB PUT ON AT, UH, JENKINS PARK.

UM, I WAS KIND OF DISAPPOINTED IN THE TURNOUT, AND THEN I WAS HOPING TO GO TO THE ONE THIS MONTH, BUT I LOST TRACK OF WHERE IT WAS, WHEN IT WAS, AND ALL THAT.

SO I THINK SOMETHING NEED TO MAKE IT MORE VISIBLE, I GUESS.

MAYBE GET MORE ATTENDANCE OUT OF IT.

I DON'T KNOW.

DID YOU HAPPEN TO MAKE THE JUNE, THE LISTENING TOUR? MM-HMM .

YOU DID? YEAH.

BECAUSE LISTENING TOURS WITH THE, THE CHIEF FOR THE NEXT FEW MONTHS.

SO WHAT KIND OF TURNOUT WAS THERE? WE HAVE A REALLY GOOD TURNOUT FOR THAT ONE.

THAT ONE IS THAT RIGHT? WAS AT, UH, WHAT'S THE NAME OF THE PARK UP HERE? ROSA, ON, UH, ROSELAND PARK.

ROSELAND PARK? NO, NO, NO, NO.

UP ON NORTH MAIN.

THE, THE HISTORICAL PARK AT THE BARN.

MM-HMM.

IS THAT BY B, C, A? IT'S, IT'S, YEAH.

RIGHT BY B, C, A, YEAH.

THE SPORTS COMPLEX.

NO, WE HAD A REALLY GOOD TURNOUT AND GOOD PARTICIPATION.

UM, IT WAS, IT WAS REALLY GOOD.

WELL, THE ONE WITH THE ONE AT JACOBS PARK, I WAS DISAPPOINTED, I GUESS, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THE LOW TURNOUT AND THERE, THE PARK WAS FULL YEAH.

FULL OF PEOPLE.

SO I DON'T KNOW IF THEY DIDN'T KNOW WHAT WAS GOING ON OR DIDN'T CARE.

I DON'T KNOW.

I THINK IT'S KIND OF FROM, FROM WHAT I'VE SEEN SO FAR, IT'S KIND OF HIT AND MISS.

UM, LIKE I SAID, I WANTED TO DO THE ONE THIS MONTH MM-HMM .

BUT I NEVER SAW ANYTHING ELSE ABOUT WHEN IT WAS, WHERE IT WAS AND ALL THAT.

SO, SO LOOK AT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT'S FACEBOOK PAGE.

'CAUSE WE WILL REPOST WHAT THE CITY PUTS OUT ON SOCIAL MEDIA TOO.

UM, AND WE TYPICALLY PUT IT OUT AGAIN, UH, THREE OR FOUR DAYS.

I THINK WE REPOSTED.

DOES THAT SOUND RIGHT? SO, BUT YEAH, IT, IT'LL BE ON THERE.

AND THEN I ACTUALLY HAVE THAT IN MY NOTES, UH, FOR THE NEXT ONE THAT'S COMING UP.

ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANYTHING THAT THEY WANNA BRING TO THE COMMITTEE? I DO.

IT'S, IT'S NOT FROM ANYBODY BUT ME.

, UM, I WAS TALKING TO OUR, UH, SOCIAL MEDIA PERSON MM-HMM .

AND SHE SAID SHE IS WILLING TO DO LIKE A LITTLE VIDEO, TAKE A WEEK OR SO BEFORE OUR NEXT MEETING AND PUT IT ON OUR SOCIAL MEDIA AND WE'LL FORWARD IT TO THE CITY HALL AS WELL.

AND IF THEY WANNA PUT IT ON THEIRS, THEY CAN.

ME AND I'LL GIVE YOU, I'LL GIVE HER YOUR NUMBER AND SHE CAN CALL YOU.

BUT WE CAN PUT IT ON THE BAYTOWN POLICE ONE, BOTH FACEBOOK AND INSTAGRAM.

AND IF IT, ANYONE ON THE BOARD IS WILLING TO, TO, UH, GIVE A LITTLE TEN SECOND THING ON WHY WE HAVE IT, PLEASE GET WITH

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AND SHE'S REALLY GOOD.

IT TAKES HER ABOUT FIVE MINUTES AND SHE'LL GET A LITTLE, BASICALLY A LITTLE VIDEO SAYING, HEY, COME TO THE POLICE ADVISORY COMMITTEE.

THIS IS WHAT WE'RE ABOUT.

THIS IS WHAT WE DO, AND WE WANT CITIZEN INPUT.

I KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT IT A COUPLE OF MEETINGS AGO.

BUT SHE'S SAYING SHE'LL HELP US GET IT DONE IF Y'ALL WANT TO.

THAT'S FANTASTIC.

IF Y'ALL ARE ON BOARD WITH IT, IF YOU FOLLOW OUR SOCIAL MEDIA PAGE AND YOU SEE THE, THE PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENTS FROM THE TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT TEAM MM-HMM .

ON SEAT BELTS, SCHOOL ZONES AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

THEY, THEY'RE REALLY WELL DONE.

UH, MS. FERNANDEZ IS THE ONE WHO DOES THOSE FOR US.

PERFECT.

ANNA FERNANDEZ IS HER NAME.

SO LEMME KNOW IF ANYBODY'S INTERESTED.

YES.

IF NOT, UH, PUT THE CHIEF ON THE SPOT.

I THINK YOU SHOULD PUT THE CHIEF ON THE SPOT.

THINK HE SHOULD BE THE FIRST TAKE.

LOOK.

YOU GUYS KNOW, I DON'T MIND TALKING.

YES.

HOW LONG DOES HE HAVE? SHE'LL HAVE TO, JUST KIDDING.

SHELL HAVE TO EDIT IT.

, SHE GOT SNIPS.

ANYBODY ELSE? COMMUNITY INPUT.

THE AGENDA IS BUSINESS ITEMS. UM, THIS IS WHERE WE ARE TO CONSIDER SETTING ANY TASKS AND PROCESSES FOR FUTURE MEETINGS.

UM, SO THE NEXT ITEM ON

[a. Consider setting any tasks and processes for future meetings.]

UH, WE HAVE COUNCIL MEMBER MAYOR PRO, TIM LA ALVARADO, WHO'S GOING TO SPEAK.

AND VINCE HINES FROM GENERAL COUNSEL, WHO'S GONNA SPEAK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE PROCESSES OF BPAC MOVING FORWARD.

AND YOU DON'T HAVE A TIME LIMIT, .

UM, WE REVIEWED IT, UM, WITHIN OUR COMMITTEE ALONG, AS I MENTIONED WITH CITY STAFF.

YEAH, NO.

UM, SO HI EVERYBODY.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR HAVING ME HERE.

AND I DID WANT, BEFORE I START THAT, I KNOW IT'S A LITTLE OUTTA ORDER, BUT I DID HAVE SOME CITIZEN INPUT ME AS A CITIZEN REGARDING THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

AND I JUST REALLY WANNA THANK, UM, OFFICER KING, UM, AND EVEN, UM, PARKER, UH, CORPORAL PARKER.

UM, SO I RECENTLY PARTICIPATED IN AN EVENT, AND HE'S ALWAYS THERE AND HE'S THE ONE DOING THE CHILD CHILD SEAT SAFETY.

UM, THEY NEED MORE OF THAT.

THE STORIES HE TELLS ME OF, IT'S LIKE 90% OF TRAFFIC STOPS, UM, USUALLY DO NOT HAVE A CHILD PROPERLY RESTRAINED OR EVEN IN A CAR SEAT.

UM, SO I REALLY APPRECIATED HIS KNOWLEDGE AND OF COURSE, OFFICER KING WHO HAS BEEN, UM, VERY INVOLVED WITH THE WEST BAYTOWN CIVIC ASSOCIATION, WHICH IS WHERE I LIVE.

BUT, UM, ANYWAY, THAT'S, I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT.

BUT, UM, AS FAR AS THE FUTURE OF, UM, BA AND, AND I, I JUST KIND OF WANNA GIVE Y'ALL AN OVERVIEW OF WHAT HAPPENED DURING OUR BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS REVIEW.

SO, UH, MYSELF AND, UM, DISTRICT TWO, SARAH, UH, SARAH GRAHAM, UM, BOTH SERVED ON THE COMMITTEE.

WE WERE TASKED WITH REVIEWING ALL OF OUR BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS.

UH, WE WISH Y'ALL WERE THE ONLY ONES, BUT YOU'RE NOT .

UM, SO WE HAD A BINDER THIS BIG THAT, UM, OUR AMAZING, UH, CITY CLERK STAFF PUT TOGETHER AND, AND JUST KIND OF HELPED US GO THROUGH WHAT, WHAT BOARDS WE HAVE, WHICH ONES HAVE NOT MET IN YEARS, MAYBE THEY'RE NO LONGER NEEDED, MAYBE THEY NEED TO BE REVAMPED.

UM, SO WE WENT THROUGH ALL OF THAT AND WE HAD BOTH CITY SUPPORT FROM OUR CITY CLERK'S OFFICE.

WE HAD OUR CITY MANAGER WITH US.

WE HAD LEGAL IN THE ROOM.

SO IT WASN'T LIKE, UM, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER, UH, GRAHAM AND MYSELF WERE JUST MAKING THESE UNILATERAL DECISIONS.

AND IT TOOK A LONG TIME, WHICH IS PROBABLY WHY WE ARE JUST BARELY, UM, FITTING SOME OF THE POSITIONS ON THIS BOARD.

AND SO WHEN WE CAME TO BPAC, WE, WE LOOKED AT, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE WANT FROM IT AND THE ORIGINAL, UH, PURPOSE OF THE BOARD TO WHERE WE WANTED IT TO BE AT.

AND WE RECOGNIZED THAT IT REALLY WASN'T ABOUT US LETTING Y'ALL KNOW WHAT YOU SHOULD BE DOING.

IT SHOULD BE YOU ALL, UM, TO DETERMINING WHAT YOUR RULES AND PROCEDURES SHOULD BE FOR THIS PARTICULAR BOARD.

UM, WE DID DECIDE, UM, WITH LEGAL GUIDANCE TO REMOVE THE OPENS MEETING ACT FROM THIS BOARD.

AND THIS MAY, THERE MAY BE MORE, UM, THAT WE RE, THAT WE REMOVE AS WELL.

YOU JUST HAPPEN TO BE THE FIRST ONE THAT WE REMOVED.

NOW THAT DOESN'T MEAN THEY'RE, YOU ARE BASICALLY A NULL, UH, BOARD.

THAT'S NOT WHAT IT IS.

AND SO WE RECOGNIZE THAT OPEN MEETINGS ACT ARE, ARE REALLY FOR ELECTED OFFICIALS.

UM, YOU ALL ARE CITIZENS.

UM, YOU ARE NOT ELECTED OFFICIALS, UM, FOR CITY, UH, POSITIONS.

AND SO WE DIDN'T WANT Y'ALL BOUND TO SOME OF THE LEGALITIES THAT COME WITH AN OPEN MEETINGS ACT.

AND SO,

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WE HAD AN OPEN DIALOGUE WITH THE REST OF COUNCIL BECAUSE AS YOU ALL KNOW IT, IT TAKES A QUORUM TO, TO MAKE DECISIONS.

AND SO WE BROUGHT IT TO CITY COUNCIL AND IT, YOU KNOW, WE DIDN'T PASS IT RIGHT AWAY ON THE FIRST DISCUSSION BECAUSE THEY WANTED SOME TIME TO ALSO KIND OF LOOK INTO, UM, OUR RECOMMENDATIONS.

AND THEN EVENTUALLY WE BROUGHT IT BACK AND IT PASSED.

AND SO, AGAIN, I MENTIONED THAT BECAUSE I DON'T WANT Y'ALL TO THINK THAT WE JUST IMMEDIATELY SAID, NOPE, THEY DON'T NEED TO ABIDE BY THESE REGULATIONS.

AND SO THAT'S KIND OF THE HIGH LEVEL OF IT.

WE STILL HAVE MORE WORK TO DO AS IT RELATES TO, UM, RULES AND REGULATIONS FOR ALL BOARDS AND WHERE THEY SHOULD BE MOVING FORWARD.

BUT I, I DID WANNA, UM, GIVE, UH, SOME TIME TO, TO VANCE OR, OR FROM OUR LEGAL TEAM TO KIND OF GIVE YOU WHAT THAT WOULD MEAN IN TERMS OF REMOVING ANY, UH, LEGALITIES, UM, FROM THIS BOARD.

BUT BEFORE I DO, I JUST WANTED TO SEE IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME.

I THINK SOME OF US TALKED ABOUT THIS PRIOR TO THIS, SO I MEAN, I WASN'T, I DON'T THINK IT'S UNEXPECTED.

ALTHOUGH WE DIDN'T SHARE WITH EVERYBODY PROBABLY.

BUT, UH, I MEAN, MY OVERVIEW WAS IT REMOVES A LOT OF THE SORT OF INDIVIDUAL LIABILITY, SO MM-HMM .

AND BASICALLY GIVES YOU A LITTLE BIT MORE FREEDOM TO STRUCTURE THE MEETINGS, HOWEVER YOU WANNA STRUCTURE THEM.

SO IT, I WASN'T OPPOSED TO IT AT ALL.

ABSOLUTELY.

THAT'S CORRECT.

WORK IN THE BACKGROUND TO SET UP THE MEETINGS, SET UP EVERYTHING TO DO, TO DO EVERYTHING TO WHERE Y'ALL CAN JUST COME AND, AND RUN THE COMMITTEE AND, YOU KNOW, POSTING ON THE INTERNET, CREATING THE AGENDA.

NOPE, I MEAN, THAT WAS REALLY ALL I HAD FOR A COMMENT ON THAT.

UM, YOU WANT ME TO GO NOW? CHAIRMAN, UH, TAKE IT.

NO, I, I, UH, AGREE WITH, AND I APPRECIATE COUNCILWOMAN ALVARADO AND MR. SPRINGER.

UH, UH, I GUESS COMMISSIONER SPRINGER HERE.

WHAT, WHAT ARE YOU, DIRECTOR SPRINGER ? I DON'T WORKING ON IT.

THE, UM, YOU KNOW, THE, I THINK THE, THE, THE LIABILITY FACTOR WAS REMOVING, THAT WAS A BIG, UM, DRIVING FORCE BEHIND THE LEGAL'S SIDE'S OPINION TO REMOVE IT FROM THE BOARD.

AND THAT WAY, YOU KNOW, THERE'S, IT GIVES Y'ALL A LOT MORE FLEXIBILITY ON HOW YOU RUN THE MEETINGS.

AND THERE'S NO CRIMINAL LIABILITY.

GENERALLY SPEAKING.

THE OPEN MEETING ACT APPLIES TO BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS THAT, UM, TAKE ACTION AND, UM, MAKE DECISIONS.

THIS BOARD DOESN'T REALLY DO ANY TYPE OF DECISION MAKING AND, AND ACTIONS.

YOU KNOW, WHAT IT DOES IS MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE CITY COUNCIL AND THEN THE RECOMME, THE CITY COUNCIL CAN ACCEPT OR REJECT THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS.

AND SO IT'S, IT'S NOT A DECISION MA DECISION MAKING BOARD.

AND SO, YOU KNOW, IT JUST MAKES SENSE IN THAT SITUATION WHERE YOU'RE AN AD HOC OR AN ADVISORY BOARD THAT YOU'RE NOT BOUND BY THE LIMITATIONS AND RESTRICTIONS OF THE OPEN MEETINGS ACT.

AND, AND I THINK THAT WAS THE LEGAL, UM, YOU KNOW, THE, THE ADVICE OF THE, OF THE LEGAL SIDE OF THAT.

AND, AND, AND THAT WAS PART OF THEIR MARCHING ORDERS.

AND, YOU KNOW, LUCKILY OR UNLUCKILY, Y'ALL ARE THE FIRST ONE TO SUFFER THIS CONSEQUENCE.

AND WE DON'T REALLY KNOW, YOU KNOW, HOW TO MOVE FORWARD RIGHT NOW.

UH, FROM IT.

I THINK THERE'S GONNA BE MORE, UH, CONVERSATIONS WITH THE COMMITTEES, UM, AND WITH, UM, UH, DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS AND, AND, AND STAFF OF THE CITY ON WHAT EXACTLY THAT MEANS.

BUT GENERALLY SPEAKING, I HAD SPOKEN WITH DR.

MARINO BEFORE THIS, WITH KRISTEN AND, AND ANGELA, MS. JACKSON, CITY, CLERK JACKSON, AND, YOU KNOW, GENERALLY IT'S ALMOST LIKE Y'ALL ARE CR CREATING THE RULES FOR A NEW BOARD.

NOW Y'ALL CAN DECIDE HOW YOU WANT TO PROCEED BECAUSE THE RULES THAT GOVERN THE BOARD ARE YOUR RULES.

I MEAN, Y'ALL MAKE 'EM, Y'ALL SET 'EM, AND Y'ALL DECIDE IF THEY'RE ENFORCED.

Y'ALL DECIDE IF THEY SHOULD BE, UH, AMENDED OR, OR RELIEF FROM THE RULES FOR CERTAIN SITUATIONS.

THEY'RE YOUR RULES TO ENACT, YOUR RULES TO ENFORCE AND YOUR RULES TO FOLLOW.

AND SO, YOU KNOW, IT ONLY MAKES SENSE AS COUNCILWOMAN SAID, THAT Y'ALL DECIDE WHAT THOSE RULES ARE, THAT HOW YOU WANT TO THIS COMMITTEE TO PROCEED.

NOW THERE'S GONNA BE A LOT OF PROBLEMS MOVING FORWARDS BECAUSE THE CITY CLERK DID A LOT OF

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ALL OF THESE THINGS ARE, THOSE ARE THE THINGS I DON'T HAVE ANSWERS TO YOU FOR.

AND, AND, AND, UH, FRANKLY, IT'S, YOU KNOW, I CAN GIVE YOU, IF I GIVE YOU AN ANSWER NOW, IT MAY BE CHANGED BY FURTHER CONVERSATIONS AND FURTHER COMMITTEES THAT HAVE THIS OPEN MEETINGS RESTRICTIONS REMOVED.

AND SO, UH, YOU KNOW, IT'S, UM, Y'ALL ARE KIND OF THE, THE LITMUS TEST ON HOW TO MOVE FORWARDS.

AND, UM, BUT YOU KNOW, AT SOME POINT YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO DECIDE YOUR OWN RULES, MAYBE POINT A SECRETARY, DECIDE HOW YOU'RE GONNA HAVE AN AGENDA.

YOU KNOW, I THINK AT THE LAST MEETING THERE WAS SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT GOING TO DIFFERENT EVENTS AND PLACES, AND THERE WAS CONCERN ABOUT THERE BEING A QUORUM THERE, UH, FOR VIOLATION OF THE OPEN MEETINGS ACT.

AND THAT IS REMOVED NOW.

Y'ALL CAN GO AS A GROUP IF YOU WANT TO, IF 'CAUSE AS AN ADVISORY BOARD AND WITHOUT, UM, UM, BEING BOUND BY THE OPEN MEETINGS ACT.

Y'ALL CAN ACT AS A WHOLE GROUP IF YOU WANTED TO, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, Y'ALL, HOW YOU MOVE FORWARD FROM HERE IS KIND OF IN YOUR HANDS AND, UM, YOU KNOW, WITH DIRECTION FROM THE COMMITTEE AND, AND, AND, UM, UM, THE CITY STAFF.

BUT I, I, I CAN'T GIVE YOU MANY HARD ANSWERS.

I COULDN'T ANSWER A LOT OF DR.

MARINO'S QUESTIONS EARLIER.

BUT, UH, BUT IT'S, IT'S KIND OF PUT A LOT OF THE IMPETUS ON Y'ALL AS, AS THE MEMBERS.

SO, SO YOU'RE SAYING YOU'LL REMOVE, I MEAN, YOU WON'T HAVE THE CITY SUPPORT.

I MEAN, THAT TO ME IS SEPARATE.

POTENTIALLY, BUT YOU'RE SAYING IT'S, I THINK THAT'S PART WAS TO PULL BACK FROM THE CITY STAFF.

I MEAN, THAT'S PUT IT IN, UM, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS.

YEAH, I THINK THAT'S BEING WORKED OUT, BUT I, I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THAT MEANS.

BUT, BUT SINCE YOU'RE NOT SUBJECT TO THE OPEN MEETINGS ACT, THE CITY CLERK HAD A LOT OF RESPONSIBILITIES UNDER THE OPEN MEETINGS ACT TO MAKE SURE IT WAS COMPLIED WITH.

AND NOW THAT THAT'S PULLED BACK, YOU KNOW, IT'S A QUESTION OF HOW INVOLVED THEY'RE GONNA BE IN THAT KIND OF THING.

SO, YOU KNOW, BUT, AND FOR EVERYBODY ELSE, I THINK THERE'S SOME INDIVIDUAL, UH, PRIVACY PROTECTION THAT COMES ALONG WITH NOT BEING SUBJECT TO THE OPEN MEETINGS ACT.

I KNOW WE HAD SOME, UH, UH, IT'S PROBABLY A YEAR AGO, SOME OPEN RECORDS REQUESTS FOR, YOU KNOW, PERSONAL INFORMATION, LIKE ADDRESSES THAT YOU WOULDN'T BE SUBJECT TO NOW.

WELL, THAT, THAT'S A LITTLE DIFFERENT.

YOU'RE STILL GONNA BE SUBJECT TO, YOU'RE STILL DOING PUBLIC, YOU'RE STILL A PUBLIC ENTITY.

YOU STILL HAVE AND POSSESS PUBLIC INFORMATION.

YOU'RE STILL GONNA BE SUBJECT TO THE PUBLIC INFORMATION ACT.

AND THAT'S ONE OF THE, YOU KNOW, THE TWO SEPARATE ACTS.

THAT'S ONE OF THE, UH, THINGS THAT WE'RE GONNA WORK OUT, HOW THAT'S GONNA BE HANDLED.

I THINK THEY, THEY ALWAYS MOW AT THIS TIME, DON'T THEY? YEAH, YEAH.

BUT NO, I MEAN, I, I CAN'T REALLY GIVE YOU ANY HARD ANSWERS EXCEPT THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT ABANDONING YOU.

WE'RE GONNA BE HERE TO HELP YOU THROUGH IT, WALK YOU THROUGH IT, AND, UM, YOU KNOW, WE WE'RE NOT JUST GONNA SAY, YOU KNOW, LIKE TRAINING A KID TO SWIM.

WE'RE NOT JUST THROWING YOU IN THE WATER.

THAT, THAT'S, THAT'S BY NO MEANS WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO.

BUT WE, UH, I, I KNOW THAT THIS IS THE DIRECTION THAT THE COMMITTEE DECIDED TO GO ON ADVICE OF COUNCIL AND, AND, UM, UM, SO THAT, AND Y'ALL JUST HAPPEN TO BE THE WINNER OF THE FIRST ONE.

AND I'M FINE WITH BEING THE GUINEA PIG, BUT, UM, ARE Y'ALL GOING TO GO BACK AND FIND OR TO, TO COME UP WITH SOME KIND OF STRUCTURE, WHAT THAT'S GONNA LOOK LIKE FOR US? THAT'S PART OF A RULES AND PROCEDURES REVIEW THAT WE STILL NEED TO WORK THROUGH AND SEE WHAT THAT MEANS.

AND AGAIN, SOME OF IT IS GOING TO BE UP TO Y'ALL TO DECIDE WHAT RULES AND PROCEDURES WILL BE FOR Y'ALL.

WE ARE, WHAT WE'RE GONNA BE WORKING ON OF THE RULES AND PROCEDURES AS FAR AS STAFF IS CONCERNED YEP.

AND HOW THE SUPPORT IS GOING TO BE FOR, UM, ALL THE DIFFERENT BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS THAT MAY BE IMPACTED.

BECAUSE THAT, THAT IS MY BIGGEST CONCERN.

THE SUPPORT START AND END MM-HMM .

UM, WHEN YOU SAY THAT CITY MAY NOT, THEY MAY COMPLETELY PULL OUT IN TERMS OF SUPPORT.

I MEAN, I, I DON'T HAVE THE BANDWIDTH IN MY LIFE TO CONTACT EVERYBODY TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE GONNA BE AT A MEETING OR TO FIND A PLACE TO HAVE THE MEETING MM-HMM .

AND OR TO TAKE NOTES AND GET THE, MEET THE, THE NOTES TO EVERYBODY IN THE COMMITTEE.

LIKE, THAT'S, THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT I HAVE THE BANDWIDTH FOR.

AND SO I JUST DIDN'T KNOW WHAT THAT WAS GONNA LOOK LIKE, BECAUSE WE'RE, I MEAN, WE'RE ALL VOLUNTEERS, RIGHT? ABSOLUTELY.

AND SO I JUST DIDN'T KNOW LIKE WHAT, HOW, WHERE, WHERE DOES THE,

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AND THAT, AND I APPRECIATE THE FEEDBACK AND, AND THAT'S SOMETHING DEFINITELY THAT WE WILL TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION AS WE'RE DOING OUR, UM, REVIEWS AND PERMISSIONS.

RIGHT? YEAH.

AND I APOLOGIZE IF I SAID THAT I I THAT I DIDN'T MEAN THAT SAID HE WAS PULLING OUT COMPLETELY.

NO, NO, NO, NO, NO.

BUT, BUT I'M GLAD YOU DID BECAUSE THEN IT ALLOWED FOR ME TO ASK HER THAT QUESTION AS SHE'S CREATING THAT PROCESS SPECIFICALLY TO, YOU KNOW, THE SUPPORT THAT WE WILL HAVE.

SURE.

BECAUSE IF, IF WE'RE SUBJECT TO PUBLIC INFORMATION REQUEST ACT, THEN AT SOME POINT YOU BETTER SUPPORT ME .

BECAUSE WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE APPOINTED RIGHT BY THE CITY TO BECOME A BOARD THAT DOESN'T HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, THAT ALLOWS FOR RECOMMENDATIONS.

AND SO I'M HOPING THAT WE STILL HAVE SOME KIND OF SUPPORT.

UM, IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT EVERYBODY IN ANGELA'S OFFICE HAS TO, WE'LL JUST KEEP ANGELA AND EVERYBODY ELSE CAN GO HOME.

AND SHE'S NOT GOING ANYWHERE.

NO, I LIKE Y'ALL.

YOU'RE GOOD.

ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY COMMENTS, QUESTIONS, CONCERNS? I'M THINKING MAYBE WE COULD, UH, MOVING FORWARD, MAYBE NOT THIS MEETING, BUT THE NEXT MEETING, CREATE SOME SORT OF, UH, GROUPME FOR THE BOARD MM-HMM .

SO WE CAN PUT OUT THINGS TO EACH OTHER LIKE THAT AND DISCUSS IT.

IF WE'RE GONNA BE MAKING THE RULES AND STUFF, MAYBE WE CAN YEAH.

PUT IT OUT AMONGST EACH OTHER ON, ON SOME SORT OF GROUPME OR EMAIL GROUP, ANYTHING.

AND, UH, I DON'T, I DON'T MIND, UH, ASSISTING ASKING PEOPLE AVAILABILITY FOR THE, THE MEETING IF IT'S GOING TO, YOU KNOW, TAKE SOME WORK OFF THEM AS WELL.

RIGHT.

IF THEY'VE GOT OTHER THINGS THAT THEY'RE GONNA BE WORKING ON.

I DON'T, I DON'T MIND DOING THAT.

BUT OVERALL, I THINK PULLING OUT OF THE OPEN MEETINGS ACT IS KIND OF A GOOD THING.

MM-HMM .

THEY'RE ACTUALLY GONNA TAKE SOME HEAT FOR IT WHEN IT FIRST STARTS.

'CAUSE YOU'RE GONNA HAVE YOUR NON-LAWYER LAWYERS OUT THERE COMPLAINING THAT WE'RE NOT DOING WHAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE DOING.

AND YES SIR.

WE GOD BLESS, HAVE DEFINITELY THOUGHT OF THAT, BUT YES MA'AM.

YES MA'AM.

BUT YEAH, WE WILL, I DON'T NECESSARILY THINK WE A GLOBAL THING WORK WITH THAT WHEN IT COMES .

I DON'T THINK IT'S A BAD THING EITHER FOR ALL THE REASONS THAT YOU JUST SAID.

AND NOW WE CAN ACTUALLY COMMUNICATE WITH EACH OTHER.

WHERE AT, AT FIRST I THOUGHT YOU CAN'T COMMUNICATE WITH ANYBODY 'CAUSE YOU HAVE TO HAVE, IF YOU HAVE THREE PEOPLE ON A, A THREAD, THEN IT'S LIKE A COR YOU HAVE TO HAVE QUORUM AND IT'S CRAZY.

AND SO I'M GRATEFUL FOR THAT.

BUT AT THE SAME TIME, I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT ALL THE OTHER THINGS THAT PEOPLE DON'T THINK ABOUT, UM, ARE CONSIDERED WHEN YOU'RE MAKING THOSE RULES, PROCESSES AND PROCEDURES.

SOUNDS FAIR.

CAN I SAY, I MEAN, YOU CAN DECIDE TO FOLLOW ROBERT'S RULES OF ORDERS AND STILL RUN A VERY FORMAL MEETING, OR YOU CAN RUN A REAL INFORMAL MEETING.

NOW IT'S IN YOUR HANDS, HOWEVER YOU WANT TO DO IT, SO.

RIGHT.

UM, SPEAKING OF, I DO, WHEN, WHEN YOU'RE MAKING THESE RECOMMENDATIONS AND CONSIDERATIONS MM-HMM .

I FEEL LIKE PART OF THE, THIS IS MY FOURTH YEAR ON THIS COMMITTEE, AND I THINK THE BIGGEST PIECE OF IT, AND IT'S AN IMPORTANT PART OF IT, IS THAT IT'S RECORDED AND IT'S PUT SOMEWHERE FOR THE PUBLIC TO GO BACK AND LISTEN TO MM-HMM .

UM, AND SO I DIDN'T, I WOULD LIKE TO NOT SEE THAT GO AWAY, JUST BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE IF WE WANT PEOPLE TO COME MM-HMM .

AND SPEAK TO US AND FEEL COMFORTABLE SPEAKING TO US, THEY SHOULD HAVE ACCESS TO WHAT'S BEEN SAID IN THE PAST.

AND SO, JUST FEEDBACK.

AND, AND WE ACTUALLY BROUGHT THAT UP THE OTHER DAY, SO YEAH.

BECAUSE HE HAS A LOT TO SAY.

CHIEF FREE STRINGER ALWAYS HAS A LOT TO SAY, AND I THINK IT'S GOOD INFORMATION THAT'S RECORDED.

AND IF ANYBODY SAYS AND THEY COMPLAIN, THEY CAN ALWAYS GO BACK AND WE COULD REFER THEM BACK TO A RECORDING WHERE HE ACTUALLY TALKED ABOUT SOME OF THESE CONCERNS.

YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.

BECAUSE HE DOES A GOOD JOB OF ADDRESSING THEM, AND I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT FOR, FOR THE RELATIONSHIPS.

SOUNDS FAIR.

ANYTHING ELSE? THANK YOU VANCE FOR , AND THANK YOU FOR COMING.

PRETTY SURE HE IS GONNA SAY YES.

SO I GUESS WE'LL TALK ABOUT THE NEXT MEETING IN A LITTLE WHILE.

SO NEXT IS YOUR REPORT.

[a. Receive a report and discuss the status of police outreach, community policing, officer training and policies and procedures.]

YAY.

AND IT'S BEING RECORDED.

SPEAKING ALLOWED, SAY .

UM, YOU GOT HIM STARTED.

NOW.

I, HERE I WAS SAYING, YOU KNOW, I'M JUST GONNA SUMMARIZE THIS, BUT, UM, ACTUALLY I'VE GOT A, I'VE GOT A LOT OF INFORMATION FOR YOU GUYS.

UM, SO STAFFING LEVELS ARE REMAINING CONSISTENT AROUND 95%.

UM, IT'S A PROBLEM FOR ME, BUT I THINK MOST AGENCIES ACROSS THE US WOULD LOVE TO HAVE THIS PROBLEM.

UM, FOR ME IT'S THAT, IT'S THAT, THAT LINE WE JUST CAN'T QUITE SEEM TO GET ACROSS.

UM, YOU CAN SEE IT, YOU CAN SEE THE END GOAL IN MIND, AND IT JUST SEEMS LIKE EVERY TIME WE HIRE A COUPLE, WE HAVE A RETIREMENT.

AND WITH THAT IN MIND, WE'RE HIRING.

WE JUST OFFERED ONE OFFICER, UH, A JOB WHO HAS, UM, I WANNA SAY ABOUT EIGHT YEARS TOTAL EXPERIENCE.

UM, AND, UH, WE OFFERED THAT TO HIM TODAY.

SO WE'RE WAITING ON A RESPONSE FROM HIM.

HE'S BEEN HOUNDING US, SO I'M

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UM, AND WITH HIM COMING ON, ASSISTANT CHIEF WHITAKER IS RETIRING AT THE END OF THIS MONTH WITH 32 YEARS OF SERVICE.

WOW.

SO, UM, WELL EARNED AND WELL RESPECTED, UH, LEADER IN THIS DEPARTMENT, IN THIS COMMUNITY.

UM, SINCE IT IS ON THE RECORD, I WOULD LIKE IT ON THE RECORD TO SAY, NOT ONLY HAS HE BEEN A, A, A SOURCE OF WISDOM FOR ME AND MADE MY TRANSITION HERE, UH, EASIER NOT KNOWING ANYBODY, LEARNING THE DEPARTMENT CULTURE, AND I'M STILL LEARNING THE CULTURE AND WHAT WE NEED TO FIX AND WHAT WE NEED TO REFOCUS AND WHAT WE JUST FLAT OUT NEED TO CHANGE.

UH, BUT HE WAS A BIG PART OF THAT FOR ME.

AND, UM, HE, UH, I'M GONNA MISS HIM.

HE WAS SIGNIFICANT IN MY LIFE FOR THE TWO AND A HALF YEARS THAT I GOT TO SPEND WITH HIM.

SO, UM, COLLABORATION AND OUTREACH.

UH, CRIME PREVENTION HOSTED THEIR SECOND ANNUAL JUNIOR POLICE ACADEMY WITH 20 AREA YOUTHS PARTICIPATING.

UH, MY 13-YEAR-OLD DAUGHTER WAS ONE OF THEM.

SHE WENT THROUGH IT LAST YEAR.

THIS WAS HER, HER LAST TIME TO GO THROUGH IT.

I THINK.

UH, SHE'S GONNA AGE OUT OF IT, BUT SHE ABSOLUTELY LOVED IT.

UH, I KNOW WE HAD SOME OTHER CITY EMPLOYEES, DAUGHTERS THAT, UH, UH, PARTICIPATED IN IT AND THEY HAD A, A GREAT TIME.

UM, THEY DID EVERYTHING FROM, UH, I THINK MOCK CRIME SCENES TO, UH, LEARNING ABOUT, UH, IMPAIRED DRIVING, UH, CANINE DEMONSTRATION, UH, SARGE SIMULATOR, UH, OH, THE, THE FIREARMS TRAINING SIMULATOR.

I HAVEN'T EVEN HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT.

NO, I HAVEN'T EITHER.

THOSE KIDS WERE AWESOME.

THEY LOVED IT.

UM, IT'S INCREDIBLY BENEFICIAL.

SO WE JUST, UH, WE JUST PURCHASED A 180 DEGREE SCREEN, AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I'D ACTUALLY, NOW THAT YOU'RE MOVING AWAY FROM, UH, OPEN MEETINGS REQUIREMENTS THAT MAYBE YOU GUYS COULD COME AND DO A CLOSED TRAINING SESSION.

UH, IT'S A FIREARMS TRAINING SIMULATOR AND IT'S IN A ROOM THAT'S PROBABLY ABOUT THE SIZE OF THIS ROOM AND IT TAKES UP THE MAJORITY OF THE ROOM.

BUT IT PUTS YOU IN REAL LIFE DYNAMIC SIMULATIONS.

AND WE USE IT FOR MORE THAN JUST FIREARMS TRAINING.

A LOT OF AGENCIES OVER THE YEARS, UH, SIMPLY USE IT FOR SHOOT, DON'T SHOOT DECISIONS OR, UH, ACCURACY UNDER STRESS.

WE USE IT FOR SOMETHING MORE THAN JUST THAT.

IT'S ABOUT CRITICAL THINKING SKILLS, UM, DECISION MAKING UNDER HIGH STRESS INCIDENTS.

SO AS YOU'RE GOING THROUGH THE SCENARIO, THERE'S ACTUALLY AN OPERATOR AT A, A COMPUTER BEHIND YOU MONITORING HOW YOU'RE VERBALLY AND PHYSICALLY ACTING WITH WHAT YOU'RE SEEING IN THE ENVIRONMENT ON THE SCREEN.

AND IF YOU'RE DOING YOUR JOB APPROPRIATELY AND YOU'RE USING GOOD DEESCALATION TECHNIQUES, AND YOU ARE NOT, YOU KNOW, LOSING CONTROL OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, THEN THEY CAN HAVE THE SUBJECT COMPLY WITH YOU SO THAT YOU NEVER HAVE TO USE FORCE IN THE FIRST PLACE.

AND WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS AVOID WHAT A LOT OF DEPARTMENTS ACROSS, ACROSS THE NATION HAVE DONE.

AND THAT'S CREATE TRAINING SCARS THAT EVERY TIME I'M IN THIS SITUATION, I HAVE TO DRAW MY WEAPON AND I HAVE TO FIRE OR I HAVE TO RESORT TO SOME KIND OF PHYSICAL FORCE.

THAT'S REALITY IN THIS JOB.

BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THE DAILY INTERACTIONS THAT LAW ENFORCEMENT HAS ACROSS THE US, IT'S ACTUALLY VERY RARE THAT YOU HAVE TO DO THAT.

IF YOU CONSIDER THE, THE HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF POLICE CITIZEN INTERACTIONS ON A DAILY BASIS, MOST OF THOSE ACTUALLY HAVE A POSITIVE OUTCOME.

SO WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS BE REALISTIC WITH THIS.

AND IT'S NOT JUST, OKAY, YOU'RE DONE WITH THE SCENARIO, YOU HAVE TO GO, UM, THERE'S REPORT WRITING INVOLVED IN IT, SO THERE'S A DEBRIEF INVOLVED WITH IT.

WHY DID YOU USE FORCE? WHAT STATUTE GIVES YOU THE AUTHORITY TO DO THIS? WHICH ONE OF OUR POLICIES COVERS THIS? SO IT'S NOT JUST A PHYSICAL TRAINING THING, IT'S ALSO COGNITIVE TRAINING AS WELL.

UM, AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, THAT, THAT I TELL PEOPLE WHEN THEY COME IN TO APPLY WITH US AND TAKE THE CIVIL SERVICE TEST IS WE WANT THE WHOLE PACKAGE.

WE WANT SOMEBODY WHO CAN THINK AS WELL AS SOMEBODY WHO'S IN GOOD PHYSICAL SHAPE, SOMEBODY WHO CARES ABOUT THE COMMUNITY, AS WELL AS PUTTING BAD GUYS IN JAIL.

UH, IT'S VERY SIMPLE.

WE'RE LOOKING FOR THE TOTAL PACKAGE.

WE'RE LOOKING FOR SOMEBODY WHO CAN THINK, SOMEBODY CAN, WHO DO THE JOB, AND SOMEBODY WHO CAN TAKE THE KNOWLEDGE AND THE SKILLS THAT THEY LEARN IN AN ACADEMY SITUATION AND APPLY THEM TO THE REAL WORLD.

UM, AND I KNOW I KIND OF GOT OFF TRACK ON THAT, BUT, UH, YEAH, IF WE CAN MAYBE ARRANGE FOR, UH, FOR YOU GUYS TO SEE THAT AND GO THROUGH THAT SCENARIO.

UM, THE SAFE RIDERS, UH, SAFETY SEAT PROGRAM, UH, OVER THE LAST MONTH, HA HAS INSTALLED 12 FREE CAR SEATS TO AREA FAMILIES.

UM, AND THAT'S JUST FROM THE CRIME PREVENTION SIDE.

THAT DOESN'T INCLUDE OFFICER PARKER OUT OF THE TRAFFIC

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MANAGEMENT TEAM.

THEY ARE PROBABLY INSTALLING AS MANY ON A, A MONTHLY BASIS AS WELL BASED ON WHAT THEY'RE ACTUALLY ENCOUNTERING OUT ON THE STREETS WITH TRAFFIC STOPS.

I JUST DON'T HAVE THAT DATA.

UH, THAT'S PROBABLY SOMETHING WE SHOULD COLLECT AS WELL.

UH, UNIDOS, UH, FAMILY NIGHT, UH, WE HAD IN MAY WE HAD APPROXIMATELY 600 IN ATTENDANCE, WHICH WAS PROBABLY OUR LARGEST, UH, IN ATTENDANCE WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE CELEBRATION WE HAD LAST YEAR IN, UH, IN TOWN SQUARE.

UH, SO THAT CONTINUES TO BE A GOOD PROGRAM FOR US.

OUR PARTNERSHIP WITH THE DEA FOR THE DRUG TAPE BACK RESULTED IN 257 POUNDS, PRESCRIPTION DRUGS BEING TURNED INTO FOR PROPER DESTRUCTION.

ASSISTANT CHIEF ALPER REPRESENTED THE BPD AT THE SAFE AND SECURE SCHOOLS MEETING, WHICH WE HAVE ON A REGULAR BASIS WITH THE SCHOOL SYSTEM.

UM, BPD COMMAND STAFF ALONG WITH THE, UH, THE EOC FIRE DEPARTMENT AND ALL CITY DEPARTMENTS AS WELL AS, UH, G-C-C-I-S-D AND SOME AREA STAKE BUSINESS STAKEHOLDERS PARTICIPATED IN EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT DRILL THAT CENTERED ON THE TRAIN DERAILMENT IN A CHEMICAL LEAK, UH, NEAR A SCHOOL.

SO WE HAD ABOUT A FOUR HOUR SIMULATION ON THAT.

UH, PEOPLE KNEW THEIR ROLES.

UH, WE DID, UH, INCIDENT COMMAND, UNIFIED COMMAND STRUCTURE, AND, AND IT WORKED REALLY WELL.

AND IT WAS VERY OBVIOUS THAT THE TRAINING THAT, THAT THE PERSONNEL ACROSS THE WHOLE CITY, UH, BEYOND JUST POLICE AND FIRE HAVE RECEIVED, UH, WAS TAKEN SERIOUSLY AND PEOPLE DID THEIR JOBS VERY WELL.

I WAS ACTUALLY INCIDENT COMMANDER FOR THAT ONE.

SO, UM, WE HAD OVER 800 PARENTS, FACULTY AND STUDENTS ATTEND DARE GRADUATIONS.

UH, IN THE LAST MONTH, UH, OR ACTUALLY OVER THE LAST TWO MONTHS, UH, BPD PROVIDED TRAINING SESSION AT THE MEMORIAL BAPTIST CHURCH FOCUSED ON GENERAL SAFETY PRACTICE FOR, UH, SENIOR CITIZENS, WHICH INCLUDED BOTH PHYSICAL AND CYBERSECURITY PRACTICES.

UH, SENIOR CITIZENS ARE PROBABLY THE FASTEST GROWING VICTIMS OF ONLINE SCAMS AND OTHER CYBER CYBERSECURITY CRIMES.

UM, WE ALSO PARTICIPATED IN THREE LISTENING TOUR EVENTS WITH DISTRICT THREE, DISTRICT THREE BEING SCHEDULED FOR JULY 16TH AT THE FIRE TRAINING FACILITY.

UM, WE BEGUN PLANNING FOR NATIONAL NIGHT OUT, WHICH WILL TAKE PLACE ON OCTOBER 1ST, 2024 IN TOWN SQUARE.

AND I THINK WE WOULD LOVE IT IF BPAC HAD A, A TABLE AND, AND, AND THE TENT THERE AS WELL.

UM, SARGE, CAN WE MAKE SURE THEY'VE GOT A SPACE OR THAT YOU'VE GOT A SPACE? UM, SO HGAC IS INTERESTED IN PICKING UP OUR MENTAL HEALTH OUTREACH INITIATIVE THAT PROVIDES THESE DECALS WITH MENTAL HEALTH, UH, FOR MENTAL, UH, FOR PEOPLE WITH MENTAL HEALTH CONCERNS, UH, OR AUTISM AND ACTUALLY MAKING IT AN AREA PROGRAM.

SO THEY WOULD FUND THE PRINTING OF THESE IN DISTRIBUTION TO ANY AGENCY THAT WANTS TO PARTICIPATE IN THIS.

SO AS YOU KNOW, THIS ORIGINATED WITH BPAC, SO THIS IS A LASTING ACCOMPLISHMENT.

THIS IS, THIS IS SIGNIFICANT, ESPECIALLY IF THEY DO DECIDE TO PICK IT UP.

UM, MS. ALVARADO ACTUALLY, UH, ACTUALLY REACHED OUT AND GOT THE INFORMATION FOR US AFTER SHE WAS, WAS BRAGGING ON YOU GUYS AND THE, AND, AND THE OFFICERS IN THE DEPARTMENT FOR DOING THIS.

AND, UH, REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THAT.

UM, IT'S, IT'S GOOD TO BE A TRAILBLAZER.

UM, OUR TRAINING, WE RECEIVED, UH, 1,352 TRAINING HOURS FROM MAY 29TH, UH, TO PRESENT.

AND THAT'S AS OF YESTERDAY AFTERNOON.

UH, SINCE MAY 29TH, WE'VE HAD ONE OFFICER RECEIVE THEIR INTERMEDIATE PEACE OFFICER'S LICENSE AND ONE RECEIVED THEIR MASTERPIECE OFFICER'S LICENSE.

UH, BAYTOWN POLICE ACADEMY PROVIDED 2,288 TRAINING HOURS FROM MAY 29TH UP TO YESTERDAY.

UH, THERE WERE 13 COURSES AND 121 STUDENTS WENT THROUGH THOSE.

UH, WE CURRENTLY HAVE FOUR NEW PERSONNEL THAT ARE PURSUING UNDERGRADUATE DEGREES IN A RELATED FIELD TO LAW ENFORCEMENT.

SO WE'RE, WE'RE WORKING ON INCREASING THE, THE FORMAL EDUCATION OF OUR EMPLOYEES AS WELL.

UM, WE DID MOVE INTO OUR NEW PUBLIC SAFETY BUILDING.

IT'S COMPLETE, WE'RE, WE'RE OPERATIONAL THERE.

WE HAVE NOT HAD OUR OFFICIAL OPENING YET BECAUSE WE'RE STILL GOING THROUGH PHASE THREE, WHICH IS THE DEMOLITION OF THE OLD BUILDING AND, UM, THE COURTYARD AND, AND PARKING LOT BEING BUILT OUT TOO.

THERE'S ALSO A PHASE THAT INVOLVES, UH, A SMALL EXPANSION TO THE MUNICIPAL COURT.

SO AS SOON AS THAT'S DONE, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A, A RIBBON CUTTING AND, AND KIND OF A GRAND OPENING.

UM, UH, LET'S SEE HERE.

I HAVE AN UPDATE ON OUR PUBLIC, YOU CAN STRIKE THROUGH TOO.

I DON'T KNOW WHY THAT'S STILL IN THERE.

THAT'S FROM LAST TIME.

UM, BUT, UH, UPDATE ON PUBLIC SAFETY AND CRIME IMPACT YEAR TO DATE.

UH, THIS IS 2024 VERSUS THE SAME TIME LAST YEAR.

OUR CALLS FOR SERVICE ARE DOWN 8% AS OF, UH, AS OF THIS MONTH.

UM, AS COMPARED TO, OR DURING OUR LAST REPORT, THEY WERE DOWN 10%.

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SO WE WOULD EXPECT A FLUCTUATION LIKE THAT.

UM, 2% IS NOT OVERWHELMINGLY CONCERNING TO ME.

I WISH IT WAS 2% IN THE OTHER DIRECTION, BUT, BUT WE'RE STILL MOVING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION OVERALL.

WE'RE STILL LOOKING AT ABOUT AN OVERALL 12% REDUCTION IN, IN VIOLENT CRIME.

UM, WE JUST DIPPED A LITTLE IN THE LAST, UH, IN THE LAST MONTH OR SO.

UM, UH, WE ARE DOWN 27% IN STOLEN VEHICLES COMPARED TO 14%.

UH, LAST TIME I I PRESENTED TO BPAC, UH, VIOLENT CRIME IS DOWN 18% COMPARED TO 24%.

SO THAT CONCERNS ME.

UH, IT IS SUMMERTIME, UH, THAT'S NOT UNEXPECTED.

IT SIMPLY MEANS THAT WE NEED TO REEVALUATE SOME OF OUR STRATEGIES AND IDENTIFY, UH, ANY PREDICTORS TO VIOLENT CRIME THAT ARE OUT THERE THAT WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO USE TO OUR ADVANTAGE TO EITHER DETER OR PREVENT 'EM.

UM, OUR VEHICLE CRASHES, UH, VERY LITTLE CHANGE IN THOSE.

THEY'RE DOWN 31% COMPARED TO 33% LAST TIME WE PRESENTED, UH, BURGLARIES.

THIS IS VERY POSITIVE, DOWN 49% AS COMPARED TO 42% LAST TIME WE PRESENTED.

AND THAT'S BURGLARIES OF BOTH, UH, UH, HABITATIONS AND INDUSTRIAL, UH, UH, BUILDINGS.

UH, SHELL CASINGS SUBMITTED, UH, DOWN 38% COMPARED TO, UH, 49%.

THAT'S ACTUALLY A MOVE IN, IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION FOR US.

AND WHEN I SAY SHELL CASINGS, THOSE ARE SHELL CASINGS THAT OFFICERS GO TO SCENES OF SHOOTINGS, WHETHER IT INVOLVES, UH, A VICTIM OR SHOOTING INTO A, A, A VEHICLE ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD OR SHOOTING A STOP SIGN OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

UH, OFFICERS GO TO A SHOTS FIRED CALL.

THEY SEE SHELL CASINGS, THEY COLLECT THEM, THEY SUBMIT THEM TO BANS, WHICH IS, UH, A NATIONAL INTEGRATED BALLISTIC, UH, SYSTEM.

AND THEY CAN COMPARE 'EM TO OTHER SHELL CASINGS AND SEE IF THAT GUN WAS USED IN HOUSTON OR EVEN ALABAMA IN A CRIME.

UH, SO THE FACT THAT THOSE ARE DOWN 38%, UH, INDICATES THAT, THAT, THAT WE'RE RESPONDING TO FEWER SHOTS, UH, FIRED CALLS.

SO AS WE SEE THAT AND WE STILL SEE THE, THE GENERAL DECLINE IN, UH, IN VIOLENT CRIMES BEING REPORTED, THAT'S STILL A POSITIVE FORCE.

AND, AND THAT'S WHAT WE WANNA SEE IS WE WANNA SEE THAT NUMBER EVENTUALLY GO DOWN TO THE POINT WHERE HOPEFULLY WE'RE NOT RESPONDING TO ANY SHOTS FIRED CALLS.

SO THERE'S NO REASON TO BE SUBMITTING SHELL CASES.

AND THAT CONCLUDES MY REPORT.

THE NUMBER, THE BUTTON.

ALRIGHT, SO THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA

[a. Consider setting the date, time and location for the next Baytown Police Advisory Committee meeting.]

IS NEXT MEETING.

WE'RE GONNA CONSIDER THE DATE, TIME, AND LOCATION FOR THE NEXT BPAC MEETING.

COUNCILWOMAN ALVARADO, WHEN DO YOU EXPECT TO HAVE SOME IDEA OF PROCESSES AND PROCEDURES? I MEANT TO ASK YOU THAT EARLIER.

MY APOLOGIES FOR MAKING YOU GET UP AGAIN.

NO, THAT'S OKAY.

WE HAVE NOT SET A DATE YET, BUT WE'RE HOPING, UM, TO GET IT ALL FIGURED OUT BEFORE THE END OF THE SUMMER.

SO IT'S OKAY IF WE CONTINUE TO COME YES.

HERE UNTIL WE HAVE FURTHER DIRECTION AND DURING THAT TIME WE COULD START CREATING AND BUILDING PROCESSES.

I, I HAVE A QUESTION.

YES, SIR.

IF MAYBE SARGE OR, OR OFFICER ROBINSON CAN, CAN CHECK WITH, UH, UH, JESSICA MATA AND SEE IF OUR COMMUNITY ROOM IS OPEN AND MAYBE HAVE OUR, UH, NEXT BA MEETING AT THE, THE NEW FACILITY.

I MEAN, THAT'D BE FANTASTIC.

CAN, CAN WE DO THAT? MM-HMM .

I THINK IT WOULD BE NICE TO GIVE THEM A TOUR.

MM-HMM.

CHIEF, THAT'D BE GREAT.

I HAVEN'T SEEN THE NEW FACILITY.

IT'S A BEAUTIFUL BUILDING.

MM-HMM .

AND I GUESS THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS WITH THE, UH, WITH YOU GUYS MOVING AWAY FROM THE OPEN MEETINGS ACT, IS WE DON'T HAVE TO TRY TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO BRING THE PUBLIC THROUGH SECURED AREAS.

UM, WHEREAS YOU GUYS CAN BE, CAN BE ESCORTED.

SO.

PERFECT.

UM, SO NEXT MEETING, 7 23, JULY 23RD AT 6:00 PM MEET AT THE COMMUNITY, THE BAYTOWN POLICE DEPARTMENT.

YOU'LL TELL US WHERE TO GO FROM THERE.

YEP.

WE'LL, WE'LL, WE'LL VERIFY THAT IT'S, THAT IT'S AVAILABLE AND DURING THAT TIME, WHAT WE'LL DIS WHAT WE WON'T, THE DISCUSSION WILL BE, LOOK, YOU KNOW, GETTING A TOUR, CHECKING OUT THE COMMUNITY AREA.

I MEAN, THAT COULD BE A GREAT PLACE FOR US TO VISIT, MEET, MEET MOVING FORWARD UNTIL WE FIND OTHER AREAS.

SURE.

IF, ESPECIALLY IF THE PROCESS PROCESSES.

THAT WOULD BE AN AWESOME PLACE WE'RE SEPARATING FROM THE CITY.

I'M A LITTLE CLINGY.

SORRY.

UM, OKAY.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? DO I NEED TO SAY THAT? YEAH.

WE NEED TO VOTE ON THAT.

RIGHT.