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[ CITY OF BAYTOWN NOTICE OF MEETING MEET AND CONFER SESSION BETWEEN THE CITY OF BAYTOWN AND THE BAYTOWN MUNICIPAL POLICE ASSOCIATION WEDNESDAY, MAY 29, 2024 4:00 P.M. BAYTOWN CONFERENCE ROOM, CITY HALL 2401 MARKET STREET, BAYTOWN, TEXAS 77520 AGENDA CALL TO ORDER ]
AND PREFERRED SESSION BETWEEN THE STATE OF BAYTOWN AND THE BAYTOWN MUNICIPAL POLICE ASSOCIATION.IT IS WEDNESDAY, MAY THE 29TH.
2024 AT 4 0 3 AND WE'RE IN THE DAYTIME CONFERENCE ROOM AT 24 0 1 MARKET STREET.
THE FIRST ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS CITIZEN'S COMMENTS.
WE HAVE NO CITIZEN COMMENTS, SO UM, THE DOOR HAS TO REMAIN OPEN.
OKAY, CITIZENS, UH, NUMBER TWO
[a. Consider confirming ground rules for the Meet and Confer sessions beginning on May 29, 2024, between the City of Baytown and the Baytown Municipal Police Association.]
ON THE AGENDA IS BUSINESS ITEMS. SO ITEM A IS TO CONSIDER CONFIRMING GROUND RULES FOR THE MEET AND CONFER SESSIONS, BEGINNING MAY 29TH, 2024, BETWEEN THE CITY OF BAYTOWN AND THE BAYTOWN MUNICIPAL POLICE ASSOCIATION.AND WITH THAT WE HAVE PROPOSED GROUND RULES AND UM, PART OF WHY WE'RE DOING THIS, OF COURSE WE HAD GROUND RULES WITH THE ORIGINAL CONTRACT.
HOWEVER, UM, I THINK MOST OF THE PEOPLE AT THIS TABLE ARE NEW TO THIS WHOLE THING, SO WE JUST KIND OF WANNA GO BACK OVER THE GROUND RULES.
UM, I BELIEVE WE DID MAKE ONE.
SO IN SECTION ONE, ONE LAST TIME WE HAD THREE MEMBERS THAT WE HAD LISTED.
WE PUT FIVE JUST WITH THE CITY'S TEAM.
WE'RE FOUR AT THE TABLE AND ONE CHIEF NEGOTIATOR.
SO JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT THAT CHANGE.
AND THEN SECTION SEVEN, SECTION SEVEN USED TO END WHERE SECTION EIGHT WITH THAT WAS 1 8 7.
WE ADDED IN THIS CONTRACT DURING NEGOTIATIONS, IT'S MORE OF A, JUST A MATTER OF GENERAL PRINCIPLES YOU WOULD FOLLOW IN ANY KIND OF BARGAINING AGREEMENT THING.
SO THAT WASN'T IN THERE LAST TIME.
I DID WANT TO CALL THAT OUT THAT THOSE THREE NUMBERS WITHIN SECTION SEVEN AS IT'S LISTED NOW, WERE ADDED IN THERE.
SO WE DON'T HAVE ISSUES WITH SECTION SEVEN.
UM, JUST LIKE WE DID BEFORE, UM, WE HAD THIS CONVERSATION.
UM, WHILE WE UNDERSTAND WHY YOU WOULD WANT THAT IN THERE, THE MAYOR COUNCIL CAN COME TO Y'ALL AT ANY POINT AND GET ALL THE INFORMATION THEY WANT, RIGHT? BUT WE DON'T HAVE THE SAME RECOURSE.
UM, SO WE WOULD ASK THE CITY LIKE WE DID THE LAST TIME TO FOREGO THIS PARTICULAR ARTICLE AND TAKE US AT FACE VALUE THAT YOU HAVE OUR WORD, THAT WE WILL NOT VIOLATE YOUR TRUST JUST LIKE THE LAST TIME WE DID NOT, UM, TO MOVE FORWARD.
UM, BECAUSE IT JUST DOESN'T SEEM AS FAIR THAT YOU HAVE DIRECT ACCESS TO THESE SPECIFIC PEOPLE AND WE DON'T IF WE WERE TO COME TO AN IMPASSE, RIGHT? SO, OKAY.
UH, EVERYTHING ELSE SHOULD READ THE SAME.
UM, OUTSIDE OF THE NOTE OF IN SECTION ONE AND SECTION SEVEN, UH, ANY COMMENTS, QUESTIONS, OR CONCERNS ABOUT MOVING FROM NO MORE THAN THREE MEMBERS TO NO MORE THAN FIVE MEMBERS? NO, NO ISSUE THERE.
UM, UH, LET'S TAKE A QUICK CAUCUS, IF I DON'T MIND IF Y'ALL OUTTA THE ROOM.
CAUCUS FOR A, UM, AND SEE IF WE CAN RESOLVE ANY DIFFERENCES ON THE GROUND RULES, OKAY? OKAY.
UM, WE WILL RECONVENE OUR MEETING, UM, AFTER DISCUSSION WE HAVE, UH, AGREED THAT WE WILL STRIKE, UH, NUMBER SEVEN, UM, OUT OF THE CONTRACT, UM, FROM SEVEN CONTACTS DURING NEGOTIATIONS THROUGH ONE, TWO, AND THREE OF THAT SECTION.
UM, AND THEN JUST PICK UP WITH NUMBER EIGHT.
SO, UM, AND IF Y'ALL ARE COMFORTABLE, WE WILL JUST MARK THROUGH AND THEN WE CAN SIGN THE GROUND RULES.
EXCEPT CHERYL, THE ONLY COMMENT I WOULD SAY IS KEEP THE SEVEN AND MARK OUT THE EIGHT.
KEEP THE NUMBER SEVEN
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AND CLAYTON, IF YOU DON'T MIND ALSO WRITING YOUR, PRINTING YOUR NAME JUST FOR HISTORICAL PURPOSES, IT'S HARD TO READ THE SIGNATURES.THAT WAS VERY PROFESSIONAL JOE.
I WILL SAY I'M SUPPOSED TO BE A DOCTOR
UM, AND THEN, UH, LET'S GET A COPY.
CAN I USE, HAVE YOURS AND WORK ON THAT'S FINE.
SEPARATE FOR ON THE EIGHT? NO, BUT WERE YOU SAYING WE WERE MOVING EIGHT? ARE WE REMOVING EIGHT OR WE SEVEN IS MOVING.
I WOULD KEEP ROMAN NUMERAL SEVEN AND CROSS THROUGH ROMAN NUMERAL EIGHT.
AND THAT WAY WE KEEP OUR NUMBERING CONSISTENT.
WE SIGN AROUND THE, I CLEARLY I DID NOT EITHER GO STARTED.
ALRIGHT, THANK, I THINK THAT WAS THE ONE THAT YOU WANTED TO KEEP.
I GOT AS LONG AS WE BOTH HAVE IT.
[b. Discuss and consider the Baytown Municipal Police Association's proposal for base compensation for Year 3 (October 1, 2024 through September 30, 2025) of the Meet and Confer Agreement.]
UH, ITEM 2D, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER THE BAYTOWN POLICE BAYTOWN MUNICIPAL POLICE ASSOCIATION'S PROPOSAL FOR BASE COMPENSATION FOR YEAR THREE, WHICH WILL BE OCTOBER 1ST, 2024 THROUGH SEPTEMBER 30TH, 2025.SO ON BEHALF OF THE ASSOCIATION, WE WANNA THANK Y'ALL AGAIN FOR MEETING.
IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO CONTINUE THESE NEGOTIATIONS TO DETERMINE A FAIR, UM, WAGE FOR OUR EMPLOYEES, UH, FOR OUR OFFICERS.
UM, I USE THE WORD FAIR, BUT FAIR SHOULDN'T BE, UM, UH, DISTORTED WITH, UM, THE SAME OR, UM, AS SOMEBODY ELSE.
UM, SO WE USE FAIR AND WHAT WE PRESENT TODAY IS WHAT WE BELIEVE TO BE FAIR, FAIR FOR OFFICERS, FAIR FOR THE CITY, AND ALSO FAIR FOR THE CITIZENS SO THAT WE PROTECT AND SERVE.
UM, WITH THAT BEING SAID, WE'RE ASKING FOR A 6.5% INCREASE, UM, ACROSS THE BOARD.
UM, AS YOU'LL SEE FROM WHAT JOEY'S PROVIDED ON NUMBERS IS THAT UH, THIS WILL NOT MAKE US EQUAL TO MAJORITY OR HAVE ALMOST HALF OF THE CITY THAT WE'RE PREPARED TO, BUT WE BELIEVE IT'S STILL FAIR EVEN THOUGH WE WILL BE LESS THAN THAT.
'CAUSE IT HELPS CLOSE THAT GAP THAT THEY'RE INCREASING ON US.
UM, WE'VE BEEN THROUGH THIS SHOW BEFORE WHERE WE'VE HAD TO DIG OURSELVES OUT OF A HOLE AND WE KNOW HOW LONG THAT TAKES, UM, AND HOW, UH, PAINFUL IT CAN BE, UH, TO DIG YOURSELF OUT OF A HOLE.
UM, SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE LOOKING FOR THAT 6.5%, UH, INCREASE ACROSS THE BOARD TO BRING US UP TO WHERE THOSE OTHER AGENCIES ARE ALM ARE BASICALLY AT RIGHT NOW.
THERE'S, THEY WOULD STILL HONESTLY BE ABOVE THAT NUMBER, UM, AS WELL AS WHAT THEIR PAY INCREASES ARE GONNA BE THIS YEAR.
WE OBVIOUS HERE, UNKNOWN NUMBERS.
UM, ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE GROUP? 1%, JOE, JUST TO CLARIFY, YOUR 6.5% IS ACROSS ALL TIERS AND STEPS AS YOU'RE PRESENTING IT? THAT'S CORRECT.
AS UH, YEAR TWO OF THE CONTRACT THAT STATES RIGHT NOW, SO WHERE WE'RE AT YEAR TWO, 6.5% ACROSS THE BOARD FOR ALL, UM, OFFICERS THAT ARE INCLUDED IN THAT.
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ALRIGHTY.UM, I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS AT THE MOMENT.
UM, I WAS GONNA SAY IF YOU'LL LET US CAUCUS FOR A FEW MINUTES, UM, JUST SO THAT WE CAN MAKE SURE WE DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS.
WE WILL RECONVENE OUR MEETING.
UM, SO WE ARE NOT PREPARED WITH A COUNTER PROPOSAL AT THIS POINT.
UM, SO, UH, WE WILL BRING BACK, UH, COUNTER PROPOSAL OUR NEXT MEETING.
UM, AND THEN ALSO AT OUR NEXT MEETING WE, UH, ARE GOING TO ELECT TO OPEN ONE OTHER ARTICLE, UM, AROUND, AND I DON'T HAVE THE ARTICLE NUMBER, BUT IT'S THE ONE, UM, THAT IS ATTACHED.
THE IA POLICY IS ATTACHED TO THAT.
UM, THERE'S A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT THE CHIEF WANTS TO CLEAN UP IN THE LANGUAGE OF THE ARTICLE, UM, REFERENCES TO SPECIFIC SOFTWARE THAT WE DON'T USE ANYMORE, UM, KIND OF THING.
AND THEN SOME THINGS IN THE IA POLICY TO JUST SOME CLEANUP STUFF.
SO WE'LL BE BRINGING THAT BACK, UM, AT THE NEXT ONE AS WELL.
SO IS THAT SOMETHING WE CAN GET BEFOREHAND TO BEGIN LOOKING OVER? THAT WAY WE DON'T HAVE TO HOLD ONTO IT LONGER.
I'M GOING TO LEAVE THAT TO AN ATTORNEY TOO.
I, WE'LL DOUBLE CHECK THE RULES, BUT I DON'T HAVE ANY ISSUES.
YEAH, I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY A GOOD IDEA.
UH, WITH THAT THEN WE HAVE ADDRESSED THE ISSUES THAT WERE POSTED FOR TODAY AND WE'LL AUR THIS MEETING.
AND WE HAVE OUR NEXT ONE SCHEDULED TODAY, JUNE 5TH AT THREE 30 WEDNESDAY.
WHAT TIME DID YOU SAY JULIE? JUNE 5TH AT THREE 30.