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ALL RIGHT, UM, I AM CALLING THIS MEETING TO ORDER FOR THE MEET AND CONFER SESSION BETWEEN THE CITY OF BAYTOWN AND THE BAYTOWN MUNICIPAL POLICE ASSOCIATION.
IT IS WEDNESDAY, JUNE THE FIFTH, 2024 AT 3 36 30 6:00 PM UM, IN THE BAYTOWN CONFERENCE ROOM AT CITY HALL 24 0 1 MARKET STREET.
ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS CITIZEN COMMENTS.
[a. Discuss and consider City of Baytown's counter proposal for base compensation for Year 3 (October 1, 2024 through September 30, 2025) of the Meet and Confer Agreement.]
AGENDA ITEM NUMBER TWO.UM, SO IN TERMS OF A COUNTER PROPOSAL, UM, WE ARE NOT PREPARED TO MAKE A COUNTER PROPOSAL TODAY.
UM, A COUPLE OF THINGS JUST TO KIND OF MAKE Y'ALL AWARE OF AND WE CAN HAVE SOME FURTHER CONVERSATIONS IN THE FUTURE AS WE MOVE ALONG.
SO THE PLACE WHERE WE'RE AT ORGANIZATIONALLY IS WE ARE ACTUALLY STILL, UH, WORKING TO BRING THE FY 24 BUDGET, UM, TO A POINT THAT WE KNOW FAIRLY WELL WHERE WE WANT TO END THIS BACKS UP TO WITH OUR FY 23 AUDIT.
UM, AND ALL OF COURSE WE ADOPTED THE FY 24 BUDGET.
WE WERE STILL FINISHING FY 23.
TURNS OUT WHEN WE GET THROUGH ALL OF FY 23 AND WE GET THROUGH THE AUDIT, WE ARE OVER BUDGET FOR FY 23.
SO WE STARTED FY 24, UM, IN A DIFFERENT POSITION THAN WE THOUGHT WE WERE.
UM, LESS MONEY
UH, SOME ADDITIONAL THINGS HAVE COME ONLINE THROUGHOUT 24 THAT WE ARE HAVING TO MAKE ADJUSTMENTS FOR.
WE ARE STILL IN PROCESS OF FIGURING THAT OUT AND KIND OF ESTABLISHING WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE WHEN WE END FY 24, BECAUSE THAT BECOMES OUR STARTING POINT FOR FY 25.
SO AT THIS POINT, WE DO NOT FEEL, UM, THAT WE ARE IN A PLACE TO BE ABLE TO REALLY DETERMINE THAT, UM, WHAT FY 25 LOOKS LIKE TO BE ABLE TO MAKE A COUNTER PROPOSAL TO Y'ALL.
UM, WITH THAT, WE ARE ALSO WORKING WITH COUNCIL ON A NUMBER OF KIND OF, UH, FINANCIAL POLICY DECISIONS THAT THEY NEED TO MAKE TO HELP US PUT TOGETHER THE FY 25 BUDGET AS WELL, AND THAT WE'LL DETERMINE ALSO KIND OF WHAT WE HAVE TO WORK WITH.
SO THAT'S, LIKE I SAID, I, I WANT Y'ALL TO KIND OF UNDERSTAND WE'RE NOT JUST LIKE, WE'RE NOT COMING BACK WITH ANYTHING, RIGHT? UM, WE ARE JUST NOT IN A POSITION TO BE ABLE TO COME BACK WITH SOMETHING WHERE WE FEEL LIKE WE CAN HONESTLY HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE, WHY WE ARE OFFERING WHAT WE ARE.
SO, LIKE I SAID, SO IN TERMS OF TWO A, WE DON'T HAVE THE COUNTER PROPOSAL RIGHT NOW.
SO CURRENTLY WE HAVE A NEXT MEETING SET FOR JUNE 29TH.
ARE WE EXPECTING TO HAVE AN ANSWER BY THEN, OR SHOULD WE BE POSTPONING THAT MEETING? SO I WAS GONNA, OH, OKAY.
UM, SO I WOULD SAY LET'S LEAVE IT ON OUR CALENDARS FOR RIGHT NOW.
I, MY GUT IS TO SAY WE ARE PROBABLY NOT GONNA BE READY BY JUNE 25TH.
UM, WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE IN TERMS OF, IS IT NEAR TERM JULY, LATER TERM JULY? I DON'T, NOT SURE AT THIS POINT.
I MEAN, JUST TO BE BEING HONEST, JUST DON'T, DON'T KNOW.
UM, WE WILL HAVE, UH, A COUNCIL MEETING ON JUNE 28TH, UM, WHICH IS FRIDAY, UH, SPECIAL COUNCIL MEETING.
WE'RE TRYING TO PULL THAT TOGETHER, UM, WITH COUNCIL TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE ALL AVAILABLE.
UH, AND THEN WE WILL HAVE WORK SESSIONS ON JULY THE 11TH AND THE 20TH SOMETHING.
UM,
WE WILL HAVE, UH, BUDGET WORK SESSIONS WITH THE COUNSELOR AT THOSE TWO MEETINGS AS WELL.
UM, SO KIND OF DEPENDING ON HOW QUICKLY THEY MAKE SOME DECISIONS AND MAKE PROGRESS WILL INFORM US HOW QUICKLY WE CAN FEEL COMFORTABLE COMING BACK WITH SOME REALISTIC, UH, NUMBERS TO HAVE CONVERSATIONS WITH Y'ALL ABOUT.
UM, SO WE'LL JUST KIND OF PLAY IT BY HERE.
UM, I WOULD, LIKE I SAID, LET'S LEAVE THE 25TH ON THE CALENDAR JUST FOR RIGHT NOW.
I DON'T THINK THAT'S GONNA HAPPEN.
WE'LL LET Y'ALL KNOW AS SOON AS WE HAVE, HAVE MORE INFORMATION.
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SO, ALRIGHT.WE HAVE WEEKLY, IF NOT DAILY CONVERSATIONS,
YOU HAVE A BALLPARK ON HOW MUCH OVER BUDGET FROM LAST YEAR? YES.
IT WAS ONLY ABOUT 400 AND SOMETHING THOUSAND OR 500.
I CAN'T REMEMBER OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD.
UM, BUT THE OTHER ISSUE WAS IN 20 UH, THREE WE HAD GIVEN A, WE DID A TRANSFER OF ALMOST LIKE $27 MILLION TO CIP AND OTHER FUNDS.
AND SO THAT DREW DOWN ON THE, UH, FUND RESERVES DRASTICALLY.
WHAT DOES THAT RESERVE BANK SIT AT RIGHT NOW? AT THE END OF 23 IT WAS 25 MILLION.
HOW MANY DAYS DOES THAT EQUATE TO? ABOUT 78 DAYS.
AND WHEN WE COME BACK, WE'RE HAPPY TO HAVE THOSE KIND OF CONVERSATIONS WITH YOU AND, AND TALK ABOUT, UM, THE RESERVE AND THE NUMBER OF DAYS.
AND SOME OF THAT IS COUNCIL'S POLICY DECISIONS, UM, YOU KNOW, AS WELL AS, YOU KNOW, FUNDING OPTIONS AND SOME DIFFERENT THINGS.
UM, SO YEAH, HAPPY TO BRING THAT STUFF BACK TO YOU.
LIKE I SAID, THERE'S JUST A LOT OF IT RIGHT NOW THAT WE'RE STILL WORKING THROUGH THAT I DON'T WANNA COME IN AND GO LIKE, OH, HERE'S THE NUMBER AND THEN NEXT WEEK IT'S LIKE, OH, HERE'S THE NUMBER.
UM, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE THAT'S SOME OF WHAT WE'VE BEEN GOING THROUGH, MAKING MY HEAD SPIN ON HONESTLY
UM, SO YEAH, SO WHEN, WHEN WE GET THERE, I ABSOLUTELY WANT TO SHARE THAT INFORMATION, UM, SO THAT Y'ALL KNOW AND UNDERSTAND WHERE WE'RE AT.
UM, YOU KNOW, KEEP YOUR FINGERS CROSSED THAT IT'S ALL GREAT.
YEAH, SO A FORTUNATE CITY, BUT UM, CERTAINLY DIFFERENT THAN WHERE WE'VE BEEN IN THE PAST.
UM, YOU KNOW, OUR REVENUES WERE FAR EXCEEDING OUR EXPENDITURES AND AS TIME HAS GONE ON THIS, THAT GAP HAS NARROWED.
IT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT JAY PRESENTED LAST YEAR WAS, YOU KNOW, KIND OF LOOKING FORWARD IF ALL THINGS STAYED THE SAME, OUR PROJECTIONS, OUR LINES ARE GONNA CROSS, OUR EXPENDITURES WILL BECOME MORE THAN OUR REVENUES, WHICH WE CAN'T DO, RIGHT? AND SO SOMETHING HAS TO CHANGE MORE THAN THAT IS THAT OKAY, WE GOTTA START CHANGING SOME STUFF.
AND SO THAT'S PART OF WHAT WE'RE FIGURING OUT AS A TEAM, UM, YOU KNOW, TO BE OKAY.
AND THEN HOW DO WE MOVE FORWARD IN THE FUTURE? JUST CURIOUS, IS MR. REYNOLDS GONNA BE OPEN THEN IF THE PAYS NOT RIGHT TO OPEN OTHER AREAS UP IN THE CONTRACT AND CHANGE THOSE THINGS AS WELL THEN? 'CAUSE THERE'S OTHER AVENUES THAT MAYBE COULD BE EXPLORED.
UM, IF THE PAYS NOT THERE, WHICH WERE ITEMS THAT WE BROUGHT UP WITH THAT CURRENT CONTRACT THAT WERE, I GUESS, I DON'T WANNA SAY TURNED DOWN BUT TURNED DOWN LAST TIME.
SO ARE THERE OTHER THINGS IF THE MONEY'S NOT RIGHT THAT WE COULD DO DIFFERENTLY, BUT THAT'S GONNA INCLUDE OPENING UP OUR OTHER ARTICLES.
UM, I BELIEVE THAT WE COULD COME BACK WITH, I THINK BOTH SIDES WITH COUNTER PROPOSALS, UM, THAT INCLUDE THOSE SAY AS A PACKAGE DEAL KIND OF THING.
I THINK I'M SPEAKING FOR THE ATTORNEY IN THE ROOM.
[b. Discuss and consider the City of Baytown's Meet and Confer proposals.]
I WILL MOVE ON TO ITEM TWO B.UH, AND WE WILL CONSIDER THE CITY OF BAY TOWN'S MEET AND CONFER PROPOSAL ONE.
THIS IS ARTICLE 13, WHICH IS THE ITEMS THAT WE SENT YOU.
THIS IS A HOW MANY DO WE HAVE? THIS IS IT.
UM, SO WE HAD MENTIONED THIS, UM, AT OUR LAST MEETING AND THEN, UM, OF COURSE SEND THIS AHEAD OF TIME AS WELL.
SO, UM, SO THIS IS ARTICLE 13, INTERNAL AFFAIRS COMPLAINT PROCEDURE.
UM, I NEED TO SEE ANY CHANGES THEREIN TO THE ARTICLE.
AND THEN OF COURSE, UM, WHAT IS ATTACHED IS THE RED LINE VERSION OF THE ACTUAL IA PROCEDURES.
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OKAY? YEAH, WE DON'T HAVE ANY ISSUES IN REGARDS TO, UM, THIS NEW POLICY.I, BILL, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE? NO OR NO? NO.
DO WE NEED TO INITIAL THIS AS WELL? ALL RIGHTY.
[c. Consider setting the time and date for the next Meet and Confer session.]
C, CONSIDER SETTING THE TIME OF DAY FOR THE NEXT MEETING, HOPEFULLY SEVEN, THE 25TH AND PERIOD O'CLOCK THE FIFTH.WE'LL CERTAINLY, UH, LET Y'ALL KNOW AS SOON AS POSSIBLE WHETHER OR NOT THAT WILL OR WILL.
ALL RIGHTY, UH, HAVING ADDRESSED ALL THE ITEMS, THEN WE WILL ADJOURN THIS MEETING, Y'ALL.