* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:03] WE DO HAVE A FORUM, AND WE'RE HERE AT CITY HALL, UM, FOR A JOINT [ CITY OF BAYTOWN NOTICE OF MEETING THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF BAYTOWN AND THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION WILL PARTICIPATE IN A JOINT WORK SESSION THURSDAY, JUNE 13, 2024 4:00 P.M. COUNCIL CHAMBER, CITY HALL 2401 MARKET STREET, BAYTOWN, TEXAS 77520 AGENDA CALL TO ORDER AND ANNOUNCEMENT OF QUORUM ] SESSION WITH PLANNING AND ZONING, UH, AND CITY COUNCIL. TODAY IS THURSDAY, JUNE 13TH, UH, 2024. IT IS NOW FOUR 10. UM, AND WE CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER. UM, SO THE FIRST PART IS [1. CITIZEN COMMENTS Notice is hereby given that in accordance with the Texas Open Meetings Act, Texas Government Code, Chapter 551, prohibits the City Council from discussing, deliberating, or considering, subjects for which public notice has not been given on the agenda. Issues that cannot be referred to the administration for action may be placed on the agenda of a future City Council Session.] OUR CITIZENS COMMENT. SO THE SCRIPT HERE. AND SO, UH, THAT IS ITEM ONE. UM, THE PURPOSE OF A CITIZEN'S COMMENT IS TO GIVE ALL INTERESTED CITIZENS THE RIGHT TO EXPRESS THEIR VIEWS. UH, EVERYONE DESIRING TO SPEAK SHOULD HAVE EITHER SIGNED THE APPROPRIATE LIST OF FOYER OR EMAILED THE CITY CLERK PRIOR TO THE POSTED TIME OF THE MEETING. EACH CITIZEN SHALL GIVE HIS OR HER NAME AND ADDRESS IN ORDER TO PROVIDE A PROPER RECORD OF THESE COMMENTS. UM, THE RULES, UH, ALLOW EACH ONE PERSON, UH, ONE MINUTE TO SPEAK. A CITIZEN MAY PASS HIS OR HER TIME TO ANOTHER PERSON WHO HAS REQUESTED TO ADDRESS CITY COUNCIL AND THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION. HOWEVER, NO CITIZEN'S REMARKS SHALL EXCEED THREE MINUTES TOTAL. EITHER THE ONE MINUTE OR THE THREE MINUTE LIMIT MAY BE EXTENDED BY A MAJORITY VOTE OF CITY COUNCIL AND THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION. I ENCOURAGE EVERYONE TO BE AS BRIEF AND TO THE POINT AS POSSIBLE. PLEASE KEEP IN MIND, COUNCIL AND THE PLANNING ZONING COMMISSION CANNOT DISCUSS OR DELIBERATE ON ITEMS FOR WHICH PUBLIC NOTICE HAS NOT BEEN GIVEN ON THIS AGENDA. UH, ISSUES THAT CANNOT BE REFERRED TO ADMINISTRATION FOR ACTION MAY BE CONSIDERED FOR PLACEMENT ON THE AGENDA FOR A FUTURE CITY COUNCIL AND PLANNING AND ZONING SESSION IF ANYONE WISHES TO SPEAK. OH, OKAY. THAT'S ME. UM, SO NO ONE HAS SIGNED UP, RIGHT? SO THERE BEING NO ONE ELSE DESIRING TO SPEAK. THIS CONCLUDES THE CITIZEN COMMON PORTION OF THE AGENDA. THE MAYOR'S HERE. ALRIGHT, SO YOU CAN SWAP THEM. GOOD DEAL. WE'RE, WE'RE GONNA HAVE YOU OVER HERE, MAYOR, RIGHT DOWN HERE. WE JUST NEED YOU TO CALL OFF ITEM NUMBER TWO. YES SIR. NUMBER TWO. THANK YOU. MM-HMM . ALRIGHT. SO [a. Discuss the proposed update to the City's Unified Development Code (ULDC).] NEXT, UH, ITEM TWO A IS DISCUSS THE PROPOSED UPDATE TO THE CITY'S UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE ULDC. SO I'M ASSUMING THAT WILL BE YOU. THANK YOU, MAYOR COUNCIL AND PLANNING ZONING COMMISSION MEMBERS. UM, THANK YOU GUYS FOR COMING OUT EARLY TODAY. I KNOW FOUR O'CLOCK IS A STRETCH FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE, SO I REALLY WANT TO THANK YOU GUYS FOR YOUR TIME. UM, WE'RE GONNA TRY AND MAKE GOOD USE OF THE TIME TODAY. UM, WE'RE VERY EXCITED. UH, WE HAVE BEEN WORKING FOR 18 MONTHS ON OVER 18 MONTHS NOW ON THE NEW UNIFIED LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE. UM, WE WANT TO JUST GIVE YOU THE, THE SUPER HIGH LEVEL OVERVIEW TONIGHT, UM, REALLY TO KIND OF GET YOU SET UP SO THAT YOU CAN TAKE THE NEXT FOUR TO SIX WEEKS REALLY AND GET INTO IT ON YOUR OWN. WE'RE, IT'S, IT'S OVER 400 PAGES PRINTED OUT. WE'RE NOT GONNA PRESENT 400 PAGES TO YOU TONIGHT. SO THE IDEA IS TO KIND OF PIQUE YOUR INTEREST ENOUGH, GET YOU, UH, UH, FAMILIAR ENOUGH WITH THE CODE THAT YOU CAN GO AND LOOK. WE'RE GONNA MAKE SURE THAT YOU HAVE THE, THE LINKS TONIGHT EITHER TO, UH, ONE THAT YOU CAN PRINT OUT OR ONE THAT YOU CAN, UM, CAN LOOK AT ONLINE. THE CODE ITSELF IS DESIGNED AS AN ONLINE TOOL, SO IT WORKS BETTER THAT WAY, BUT IT CAN BE PRINTED. UM, SO, UM, REAL QUICK, WHY ARE WE DOING THIS? WHY ARE WE DOING AN UPDATE TO THE, THE ULDC? UM, THERE REALLY ARE SOME CHALLENGES IN THE CURRENT CODE. THAT CODE WAS, IS NOW, IT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE MUCH, IT'S 11 YEARS OLD, WHICH IN TERMS OF WHAT HAS COME ALONG SINCE THEN, IT ACTUALLY IS, IT'S DUE FOR, FOR AN UPDATE. UM, AND, AND THERE ARE CHALLENGES IN THAT CODE. THERE ARE CONFLICTS WITHIN THE CODE THAT WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO FIX. YOU'VE NOTICED, UH, OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS, WE'VE BEEN SORT OF EDGING TOWARDS CERTAIN, UH, THINGS TO GET FIXED, BUT THERE'S ALWAYS LITTLE THINGS THAT WE, THAT WE DIDN'T CATCH. SECOND, WE DID A NEW COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TWO YEARS AGO. NOW BY STATE LAW, THE, THE, THE, UH, ZONING CODE IS BASED OFF OF OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. SO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN HAS BEEN UPDATED. IT MEANS IT IS TIME NATURALLY TO UPDATE THE UNI, THE UNIFIED LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE. WE WANT TO ENCOURAGE QUALITY DEVELOPMENT. THE NEW CODE IS GONNA HELP SORT OF PUSH US TOWARDS, UH, HIGHER QUALITY DEVELOPMENT. AND THERE'S ALSO BEEN A LOT OF CONVERSATION AROUND HOW EASY IS THE, UM, IS THE CODE TO USE, HOW IS IT, HOW EASY IS IT TO FIND WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR? HOW EASY IS [00:05:01] IT? OR, OR HOW FLEXIBLE IS THE CODE? IS IT VERY RIGID? IS IT CREATING ISSUES FOR, FOR BUILDERS AND DEVELOPERS? AND SO WE HAVE HEARD PRETTY CONSISTENTLY, YES. NOW, SOME OF THAT IS BY NATURE OF THE CODE ITSELF. IT, IT IS WHAT IT IS, BUT OUR GOAL IS TO HOPEFULLY TRY AND, AND MAKE THAT BETTER. SO WHAT DOES THE NEW CODE OSTENSIBLY LOOK AT? AND REMEMBER TODAY WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT AND WHAT YOU'LL BE LOOKING AT OVER THE NEXT, NEXT FOUR TO SIX WEEKS IS A DRAFT. WE CAN STILL MAKE CHANGES TO IT UP UNTIL THE TIME THAT WE GET TO THE, THE FINAL ACTION FROM CITY COUNCIL. WE, UM, AND WHAT WE'RE HOPING FOR YOU TO SEE IN THIS DRAFT IS, NUMBER ONE, IT'S GONNA BE VERY USER FRIENDLY. AGAIN, I MENTIONED THAT IT, IT'S EASIER TO USE IN THE ONLINE VERSION THAN IT IS TO PRINT IT OUT, BUT IT CAN BE PRINTED OUT. UM, THERE ARE LINKS AND A TABLE OF CONTENTS DOWN THE SIDE THAT ALLOW YOU TO KIND OF FLIP YOUR WAY THROUGH THE CODE VERY QUICKLY AND EASILY. UM, IT IS ORGANIZED IN AN INTUITIVE FASHION. IT MAKES SENSE WHERE THINGS ARE SOME, IN SOME PIECES OF THE OLD CODE, IT'S REALLY HARD TO FIGURE OUT WHERE THAT'S GONNA BE, WHERE SOMETHING'S GONNA BE AT BECAUSE IT JUST, IT MADE SENSE TO SOMEBODY AT SOME POINT, OR IT WAS SQUASHED IN FROM ANOTHER DOCUMENT. BUT THIS WILL BE SET UP RIGHT OUT OF THE GATE TO BE A LITTLE MORE INTUITIVE. WE WANT THE CODE ITSELF TO BE FAIR AND EQUITABLE. FAIR AND EQUITABLE DOES NOT ALWAYS MEAN EXACTLY THE SAME FROM THIS CASE TO THIS CASE. BUT, UH, AS WE SEE THAT IF, IF SOMETHING MAKES SENSE AND WE'RE ABLE TO, TO MAKE, UM, ACCOMMODATIONS FOR, FOR SOMETHING THAT MAKES SENSE WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY, THEN WE TRIED TO MAKE SURE THAT WAS PART OF THE CODE STRAIGHTFORWARD AND EXPLAINABLE. THAT IS, THAT KINDA SPEAKS FOR ITSELF. WE WANT IT TO BE EASILY UNDERSTOOD, RECOGNIZABLE TERMS AND PRACTICES. OKAY, SO WE ALL KNOW THAT PLANNERS AND ZONING, UM, ARE THE LAND OF ACRONYMS. AND I GET THAT AND I TRY TO, I TRY NOT TO USE THE ACRONYMS UNLESS I'M CERTAIN THAT EVERYBODY IN THE ROOM KNOWS WHAT IT MEANS. SO THERE ACTUALLY IS A, AN ENTIRE SECTION OF THE CODE THAT'S NOT ONLY THE DEFINITIONS FOR THE WORDS, BUT ALSO THE ACRONYMS. ALL ANYTHING THAT GETS USED IN THE CODE. SO IF YOU NEED TO KNOW WHAT THAT IS, AGAIN, YOU'RE USING THE ONLINE VERSION, YOU CLICK IT AND IT GOES STRAIGHT TO AN EXPLANATION OF WHAT THAT, WHAT THAT TERM IS. AND EFFICIENT, FLEXIBLE, AND PREDICTABLE DEVELOPMENT. SO AGAIN, NEW DEVELOPMENT THAT COMES IN. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ABLE TO GET THROUGH THE REVIEW PROCESS, UH, EFFICIENTLY. WE ARE TRYING TO BUILD IN THINGS THAT WILL ALLOW US FOR SOME OPTIONS FOR DEVELOPERS, FOR BUILDERS, UH, AND THEN, BUT WE ALSO WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE KNOW WHAT WE'RE GOING TO GET OUT OF THAT AS A COMMUNITY. OKAY. THAT'S WHAT I'M GONNA HAND THE MICROPHONE TO. RYAN. THANK YOU MARTIN. UH, THANK YOU EVERYBODY. I'M GONNA KIND OF GO OVER, UH, WHERE WE'RE AT AND WHERE WE'RE GOING WITH THIS. SO, AS MARTIN MENTIONED, UH, WE STARTED THIS ALL THE WAY BACK IN SEPTEMBER OF 2022. UM, WE'VE BEEN MOVING THROUGH THE PHASES. UH, THIS WAS NOT CREATED IN A VACUUM. UH, WE HAD, UH, STAKEHOLDER AND FOCUS GROUP, UH, INTERVIEWS. WE HAD A, UH, CODE ADVISORY COMMITTEE. WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH CITY COUNCIL PLANNING COMMISSION AS WELL ON THIS, UM, AS STAKEHOLDER GROUPS, UH, WITH SOME OF OUR FORM-BASED REGULATIONS FOR OUR DOWNTOWN ARTS DISTRICT, OUR SAN JACINTO BOULEVARD AREA. UM, AND WE ARE NOW, UM, RIGHT AT THE BEGINNING OF THE ADOPTION PHASE. SO, UH, WHAT YOU SEE TONIGHT IS THE FIRST OF SIX MEETINGS THAT WILL BE HAPPENING OVER THE NEXT SIX WEEKS, REALLY, UM, IN TERMS OF PUBLIC HEARINGS AND EVENTUALLY ADOPTION, HOPEFULLY, OF THIS CODE. UM, SO THERE WILL BE, UM, A PUBLIC HEARING AT BOTH CITY COUNCIL AND PLANNING COMMISSION IN JUNE. WE WILL HAVE ANOTHER, UH, PUBLIC HEARING, UM, WITH, UH, PLANNING COMMISSION AND CITY COUNCIL IN JULY. AND THEN AT THE END OF JULY, UM, WE'LL HAVE, UH, HOPEFULLY THIS WILL COME BEFORE COUNCIL FOR ADOPTION. SO, UH, THIS IS JUST THE BEGINNING, AS MARTIN SAID IT, IT IS ABOUT A 400 PAGE DOCUMENT. UM, YOU WILL SEE HERE LOTS OF IMAGES, LOTS OF GRAPHICS TABLES, THINGS LIKE THAT. SO THE, THE 400 PAGES IS A LITTLE BIT OF A MISNOMER. UM, YOU'LL SEE SEVERAL PAGES, UH, IN THE DOCUMENT WHERE IT'S NOTHING BUT PICTURES AND, AND THINGS LIKE THAT. SO, UM, WE'RE, WE'RE VERY EXCITED ABOUT THAT. UM, SO KIND OF, UH, WHAT IS THE GOALS FOR TODAY? SO REALLY WHAT WE WANT TO DO IS WE WANTED TO HOLD A JOINT WORK SESSION SO THAT BOTH CITY COUNCIL AND PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION ARE STARTING THIS, UH, ADOPTION PROCESS ON THE SAME PAGE AND HEARING THE SAME MESSAGE. WE WANNA GIVE YOU ALL A HIGH LEVEL, UH, PREVIEW OF THE DOCUMENT, UH, TO HELP YOU FAMILIARIZE YOURSELF WITH THE NEW DOCUMENT AND HELP SPARK YOUR CREATIVITY, UH, PRIOR, UH, PRIOR TO ADOPTION. SO, TAKING A LOOK AT IT, REALLY BE ABLE TO LOOK AT A CRITICAL EYE, UH, SEE HOW, UM, HOW THIS, UH, DOCUMENT, UH, WILL WORK. AND THEN A CHANCE TO ASK QUESTIONS OF BOTH, UH, STAFF. AND THEN WE DO HAVE OUR CONSULTANTS HERE AS WELL. UM, INITIAL QUESTIONS THAT YOU ALL HAVE, UH, KIND OF, UH, [00:10:01] THAT WILL, YOU ALL WILL SPURRED, UH, TO HELP US, UH, MAKE THIS DRAFT BETTER. 'CAUSE AGAIN, THIS IS A DRAFT, THIS, THERE'S STILL NOTHING WRITTEN IN STONE HERE. WE STILL HAVE ABOUT SIX WEEKS REALLY TO MAKE CHANGES BEFORE, UM, BEFORE WE WOULD HAVE ANY SORT OF FINALITY ON THIS. SO WHAT ARE WE DOING HERE TODAY? WE PROMISE. UH, ORIGINALLY WE THOUGHT WE'D JUST TALK TO YOU FOR TWO HOURS, BUT WE, WE REALIZED THIS IS, THIS IS PROBABLY WHAT MOST OF Y'ALL WOULD BE DOING. SO THIS IS GONNA BE AN INTERACTIVE THING. YOU'LL SEE ALL THESE STATIONS HERE. UM, UH, WE WILL GET INTO THAT HERE IN A LITTLE, UH, BIT OF EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE DOING. SO, UH, YOU ALL ARE SITTING IN TEAMS OF TWO OR THREE. UH, WE TRIED TO MAKE SURE THAT, UM, THERE WAS NOT A, UH, PLANNING COMMISSION MEMBER WITH ANOTHER PLANNING COMMISSION MEMBER OR CITY COUNCIL MEMBER WITH ANOTHER CITY COUNCIL MEMBER. UM, THERE ARE SEVEN STATIONS. YOU'RE GONNA VISIT ALL OF THEM, UM, AT THESE STATIONS. THERE ARE DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE CODE THAT WE KIND OF WANT TO, UH, DRAW YOUR ATTENTION TO. UM, THERE'S AN INTERACTIVE COMPONENT WITH MOST OF THESE. UM, THE TIME LIMIT, UH, EACH STATION WILL TAKE ABOUT 11 MINUTES. UH, STAFF IS GONNA KEEP TIME. WE ARE GONNA TRY TO KEEP THAT VERY CLOSE, UH, TO THAT SO THAT WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT WE WRAP UP AT SIX TO GIVE Y'ALL A LITTLE BIT OF TIME. UH, BEFORE COUNCIL STARTS, UM, WE WANT FOR YOU TO ENGAGE, THIS IS A TWO-WAY CONVERSATION. UM, SO IF THERE'S THINGS THAT, UH, YOU HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT OR THINGS THAT SPARK YOUR INTEREST, THIS IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO ASK THOSE QUESTIONS. UM, WE'RE HERE TO, UH, ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS FOR YOU. SO, AND, AND AS A SORT OF LAST MINUTE PIECE, UM, STAFF MEMBERS OR ANYBODY ELSE WHO'S HERE, THAT IF WE HAVE SEATS AROUND ONE OF THE STATIONS, YOU'RE WELCOME TO JOIN IN AND, AND, UH, AND LISTEN TO THE CONVERSATION AS WELL. UM, NO ACTION IS BEING SOUGHT TODAY. NO RECOMMENDATIONS OR, OR, OR, UM, UH, OPINION. WE ARE, WE ARE LOOKING FOR OPINIONS, BUT, UM, WE'RE, WE'RE NOT LOOKING FOR ANY DECISIONS TO BE MADE TODAY. SO, UH, SO AGAIN, ALL FEEDBACK IS WELCOME. UM, WE, WE RESERVE THE RIGHT TO DISAGREE, BUT, UH, THAT SAID, YOUR FEEDBACK IS WELCOME. WE DO WANT TO HEAR WHAT YOU HAVE TO SAY. UM, AND THAT'S REALLY, AS RYAN SAID, THAT'S THE MAIN IDEA FOR TODAY. WE WANT YOU TO ASK QUESTIONS. WE WANT YOU TO GIVE YOUR, GIVE US YOUR FEEDBACK. SO, UM, WITH THAT, WE'RE, WE'RE GOING TO GET STARTED. THERE IS A STAFF MEMBER AT EACH ONE OF THE STATIONS. UH, AND THEN UP AT THIS STATION HERE, WE, WE HAVE, UM, OUR CONSULTANT, UH, STEVE, LAST NAME HAS JUST ESCAPED ME. SMORE, THANK YOU. AND, AND JENNIFER MACK. THEY'RE, UH, HERE TO, TO RUN ALL THE STATIONS AS WELL. SO, UM, THAT SAID, SARAH, I'LL GO AHEAD AND MOVE YOU 'CAUSE I DON'T, YOU LOOK ENTHUSED. . OH, YOU, YOU'RE GONNA SIT IN JAY. YOU'RE GONNA SIT IN. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. PERFECT. ALL RIGHT. WITH THAT, UM, YOU READY TO START THE TIMER? OKAY. YOU'LL HEAR IT BEEP. WHEN WE'RE READY TO MOVE, EVERYBODY WILL, WE'LL SHUFFLE YOU FROM ONE TO THE NEXT. THEY'RE COMING, THEY'RE COMING, BASICALLY. OKAY. SO WE'RE GONNA GO AHEAD AND GET YOU READY, SHANNON. OKAY. THANK YOU. I'LL SAY IT TO HER FACE. OKAY. ARE WE READY? YES. ALL RIGHT. WE, WE WANNA DO A LITTLE DEBRIEF ON KIND OF WHAT YOU SAW AND HEARD TODAY. SO, UM, REMEMBER FEEDBACK HERE IS CRUCIAL. WE DID HEAR SOME THINGS FROM YOU AS YOU WERE WALKING AROUND. THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT WE WANTED. WE WANTED A LOT OF INTERACTION. WE WANTED A LOT OF QUESTIONS AND FEEDBACK. SO THIS IS THE OPPORTUNITY RIGHT NOW FOR THE NEXT 17 MINUTES TO, FOR EVERYBODY TO KIND OF COMPARE NOTES ON THAT AND GIVE US SOME OF THAT FEEDBACK. SO FIRST AND FOREMOST, WHAT STOOD OUT TO YOU? THE STREAMLINING OF EVERYTHING. HOW THINGS LOOK A LOT EASIER. OKAY. AND MORE, UH, JUST SELF-EXPLANATORY WITHOUT A MUCH OF HAVING ASKED QUESTIONS. PERFECT. WHAT'S, WHAT STOOD OUT TO OTHER PEOPLE? I'VE BEEN WORKING HARD. WE HAVE, IT IS A LOT. IT'S A LOT. IT'S, LIKE I SAID, IT'S OVER 400 PAGES. UM, STEVE AND, UM, BRIAN RY HAVE REALLY BEEN DOING A TON OF WORK. AND I KNOW JEN'S BEEN IN, IN INVOLVED IN THE BACKGROUND AS WELL. UM, FOR SAID ALMOST 18, OVER 18 MONTHS. WOW. UM, ANY, WHAT ELSE STOOD OUT TO YOU? IT'S A LOT EASIER. I DON'T KNOW. SOMEBODY SAID THAT ALREADY. WE JUST FINISHED OVER HERE. NO. AND, AND, BUT IF THAT'S WHAT STANDS OUT TO YOU, THAT'S WHAT I WANNA HEAR. YES. AND THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S GREAT FOR US TO HEAR THAT WE FEEL LIKE THAT'S KIND OF HEADED DOWN THE, THE RIGHT DIRECTION. YEAH, I MEAN, I GUESS I WOULD, IT APPEARS THAT WITH THE GRAPHICS AND, AND THINGS, UH, IS MORE USER FRIENDLY, ALMOST A LITTLE BIT MORE INTUITIVE AND A LOT MORE INFORMATION AT ONE SPOT RATHER THAN HAVING TO COLLECT A PIECE HERE AND A PIECE THERE AND A PIECE SOMEWHERE ELSE. RIGHT. UM, WHAT DID YOU LEARN? WHAT DID YOU LEARN TODAY FROM WALKING AROUND TO THESE SEVEN STATIONS THAT YOU DIDN'T KNOW WHEN YOU WALKED IN THE DOOR? THAT YOU DON'T MEASURE OUR ROOF AT THE TALLEST POINT. [00:15:01] . THAT'S I IN SIX DIFFERENT STATES. AND IT IS LIKE THAT EVERYWHERE. IT'S WEIRD, BUT IT, SO WE KEPT IT THAT WAY. I DIDN'T LEARN THAT. WHERE DID WE MEASURE IT FROM? IT'S THE MIDDLE OF THE SLOPE. ALL OVER THE, BASICALLY THE MIDDLE OF THE SLOPE. DEPENDS ON THE ROOF. IT DEPENDS ON THE ROOF TYPE, BUT THE ROOF, IT'S THE MIDDLE WHERE THE EVE AND THE PEAK IN THE MIDDLE DRILL SLOPE. BUT A FLAT ROOF, YOU MEASURE FROM THE TOP IT. SO LIKE, MY HOUSE HAS A SUPER PITCHED ROOF UHHUH. AND SO YOU ALLOW FOR IT TO BE A LITTLE BIT TALLER BECAUSE IT'S GOT THAT PITCH TO IT AND YOU WANT TO, YOU WANNA ALLOW FOR THAT. 'CAUSE THAT'S A, THAT'S AN ENHANCED DESIGN FEATURE. AND SO YOU LET IT BE A LITTLE TALLER IF THEY'RE, IF THEY'RE WILLING TO MAKE IT HIGHER PITCH, STUFF LIKE THAT. COOL. UM, WHAT ELSE DID YOU LEARN? NOBODY LEARNED ANYTHING ELSE. THE DRILLING OVERLAY DISTRICT, THE DRILLING OVERLAY DISTRICT, THAT WAS ACTUALLY NEW TO ME TODAY, SO, OH, THERE YOU GO. UM, WHAT PIQUED YOUR INTEREST? WHAT MAKES YOU WANT TO GO AND LOOK AT THE REST OF THE CODE AND GET INTO IT WITH A FINE TOOTH COMB? I, I SEE YOU'RE EXCITED. THE TREES. WE, WE HAVE SOME PROCESSES TO MITIGATE TREES AND I, I'M SORRY, I WAS BACKTRACKING ON WHAT I LEARNED. I WAS EXCITED ABOUT THAT. OKAY. THAT'S ALL. WELL, THAT'S TWO THINGS THOUGH, RIGHT? THAT'S A DOUBLE WHAMMY. I'M EXCITED ABOUT THE TREES AS WELL, BUT ALSO THE PARKING REQUIREMENT, SO THAT'S GREAT. UM, THE LACK OF OF LACK, YEAH, THE LACK OF PARKING. THE LACK OF A PARKING MINIMUM. THE NO MINIMUM PARKING ONE WAS GOING THERE IS A MAXIMUM. MAXIMUM. THERE'S NO MINIMUM. NO MINIMUM. WHAT, WHAT ELSE PIQUED YOUR INTEREST? WHAT MAKES YOU WANT TO GO HOME AND FIRE UP YOUR COMPUTER RIGHT AWAY AND JUST JUMP RIGHT INTO IT? THE FREEWAY CODING? YEAH. FOR THE MIXED USE. YEAH. THE FREEWAY CODING MAKES FREEWAY COMMERCIAL AND THE MIXED USE. YEAH, I THINK ON THE MIXED USE THAT, YOU KNOW, SO WHEN, WHEN COUNCIL IN THE MID NINETIES CREATED THE ZONING DISTRICT, THERE'S THREE AND MIXED USE THERE WAS PRETTY MUCH WAS A CATCHALL. AND THEN NOW IT'S REALLY BEEN REDEFINED TO THE WAY CURRENT PLANNING, ZONINGS DEFINITION OF MIXED USE ARE. AND SO SPECIFICALLY WITH, WHAT'S INTERESTING ABOUT MIXED USE HERE IS YOU HAVE ONE THAT'S OLDER AREA AND IS REVITALIZATION EFFORTS VERSUS NEW DEVELOPMENT, BUT THEY'RE BOTH MIXED USE OR THEY BOTH BEACON. IT'LL BE INTERESTING TO SEE HOW THAT UNFOLDS. I GUESS I WOULD SAY, UM, IF YOU DIDN'T CATCH THIS, IF YOU WANT TO SPEND A LITTLE EXTRA TIME ON CERTAIN DISTRICTS, THE SAN JACINTO AND THE DOWNTOWN ARTS DISTRICTS ARE GOING TO BE, THEY'RE GONNA READ A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY THAN THE REST. YEAH. FOR THE PLANNERS, WE KIND OF KNOW WHAT THAT'S ABOUT. WE'VE BEEN INVOLVED IN THOSE BEFORE, BUT IT'S, IT'S DIFFERENT FROM THE REST OF THE ZONING CODE A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE THOSE AREAS HAVE, UH, SPECIFIC NEEDS AND WE WANT TO PUSH THEM IN A CERTAIN DIRECTION. SO, SO YEAH, IF YOU WANNA LOOK AT THE MIXED USE ONES, THOSE ARE PROBABLY THE ONES THAT GET INTO THE MOST DETAILED AREA. UH, ONE, ONE OF THE ABOUT THE, THE, THE SC ZONING ZONING, UH, 1 46 ISN'T ON THAT. AND I KNOW IT'S, WE HAVE ALL THAT'S GOING ON, BUT I KNOW THERE'S BEEN SOME EXPANSION OF 1 46. IT IS. IT'S ON THERE. IT WAS ON THERE, YEP. OKAY. KEPT THREE 30, THEY SAID THREE 30 ACTUALLY, AND I DIDN'T LOOK PART OF 1 46 IS, IS DEFINITELY ON THERE. OKAY. UM, THREE 30. I KNOW IT'S KIND OF GOING MORE TOWARDS THAT WAY AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE THEY'RE GONNA TRY TO EXPAND ON. AND, AND THREE 30 I THINK IS IN THERE SOMEWHAT AS WELL. SO LIKE GRAND PARKWAY? YEAH. YEAH. ALONG, UP THROUGH HERE. SO YEAH. OKAY. OKAY, COOL. UM, WHERE DID YOU SEE THAT THE NEW CODE IS POTENTIALLY BETTER FOR BAYTOWN? BETTER FOR OUR COMMUNITY OVERALL WHEN IT COMES TO MIXED USE? QUALITY ENHANCEMENTS, QUALITY OF LIFE ENHANCEMENTS, QUALITY OF LIFE ENHANCEMENTS. FLEXIBILITY. FLEXIBILITY. HOW IS THAT, HOW DO YOU SEE THE FLEXIBILITY BEING BETTER FOR BAYTOWN? I THINK THE CURSE WORD PROGRESSION COMES TO MIND , BUT I'D LIKE TO SEE THAT. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE US PROGRESS INTO A WALKABLE CITY, INTO A CITY WHERE, YOU KNOW, WITHIN 15 MINUTES YOU CAN AT LEAST GET TO A COFFEE SHOP OR, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING LIKE THAT. I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THAT GOING ON. WHAT AMY SAID THOUGH, LIKE THE GUIDELINES THAT WE HAVE AND WITH THE EXPECTATIONS OF STOREFRONTS AND WHAT THEY LOOK LIKE, BUT THEN STILL BEING FLEXIBLE AND THAT, I'M REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THAT. DID ANYBODY NOTICE THAT THE, THE USE CATEGORIES NOW ARE MUCH BROADER AND THERE ARE THINGS THAT ARE INCLUDED IN THERE THAT WE MAYBE HAVEN'T EVEN THOUGHT OF YET? THAT WE WILL, WE WILL BE ABLE TO INTERPRET BETTER AND BE ABLE TO PUT IN A, IN A CATEGORY WITHOUT HAVING TO HAVE THAT LIST OF EVERY SINGLE USE THAT I KNOW IN THE, MAYBE 15 YEARS AGO, THE THING THAT WAS THE BANE OF MY EXISTENCE WHERE I WAS AT THE TIME WAS INTERNET CAFES. HOW DO YOU, [00:20:01] WHAT DO YOU DO WITH THAT? IS IT GAMBLING? IS IT, UH, IS IT JUST A COFFEE SHOP? IS IT A HOOKAH SHOP? WHAT, WHAT ARE WE TALKING ABOUT HERE? AND WE COULDN'T FIGURE OUT WHERE TO PUT IT. AND SO YOU'D HAVE TO COME BACK TO IT AND SAY, OKAY, HOW DO WE FIT THIS INTO THE TABLE? NOBODY HAD A GOOD ANSWER FOR IT. SO NOW YOU WOULD LOOK AT IT AND YOU WOULD SAY, 'CAUSE FOR THE PLANNERS, WE LOOK AT IT AND JUST SAY, THIS IS, THIS OPERATES AND HAS THE FUNCTIONALITY OF SOMETHING ELSE. WHETHER IT'S A COFFEE SHOP, WHETHER IT'S A, AN INTERNET CAFE, WHETHER IT'S A, WHICH IS ANOTHER THING ANYMORE. BUT, UM, WHETHER IT'S SOME KIND OF RETAIL, I DON'T CARE AS MUCH BECAUSE WHAT HAPPENS FROM THE OUTSIDE, I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON INSIDE AND IT DOESN'T MATTER. SO IT REALLY KIND OF GIVES US A BETTER PLACE TO, TO MAKE THAT DETERMINATION. THAT'S LOVELY. IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE THAT YOU GUYS COULD SEE THAT IS, UH, THAT BETTER POTENTIALLY FOR, FOR THE, SOME THINGS ARE, UH, MORE CLEARLY IDENTIFIED, UH, SUCH AS WHAT CAN BE, WHAT'S A ALLOWABLE ON INFILL LOTS? UM, AMONG OTHER THINGS, BUT, OKAY. AND DON'T WE HAVE LESS ACRONYMS DOWN? I DUNNO IF WE'LL EVER HAVE THAT ACRONYM. THAT MAKES ME HAPPY. WE'RE TRYING, WE'RE DEFINITELY TRYING. UM, WE TEND TO ABBREVIATE, SO, UM, BUT YEAH. UM, OKAY. SO BETWEEN NOW, SO AS, AS RYAN TOLD EVERYBODY, UM, WE HAVE SEVERAL MEETINGS COMING UP NEXT WEEK IS PLANNING ZONING COMMISSION FOR THE FIRST PUBLIC HEARING, PLANNING ZONING COMMISSION WILL HAVE ANOTHER PUBLIC HEARING IN JULY, UM, TO MAKE SURE WE GOT ALL OUR BASES COVERED, MAKE SURE EVERYBODY CAN BE HEARD. THEN WE HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING FOR CITY COUNCIL ON THE 25TH OF THIS MONTH. SEVENTH 27TH, 27TH OF THIS MONTH, NEXT MEETING. UH, AND THEN ANOTHER ONE, UH, JULY 11TH. AND THEN WE WILL BE ASKING FOR, UH, FOR ACTION ON THE 25TH IF EVERYTHING GOES WELL. IF IT DOESN'T, DO WE NEED MORE TIME? THAT'S OKAY TOO. I JUST UNDERSTAND WE'RE GONNA RUN THE BUDGET TIME AND THAT'S GONNA BE MISSED. SO ALL THAT SAID, UM, THE, I WANTED TO ASK THE QUESTION, WHAT QUESTIONS DO YOU HAVE NOW THAT WE MAY NOT BE ABLE TO ANSWER TONIGHT, BUT YOU WOULD LIKE ANSWERED PRIOR TO US DOING MORE OF THESE PUBLIC MEETINGS AND HOPEFULLY ONE OF YOU PLANNER IS WRITING QUESTIONS THAT WE CAN ANSWER? I THINK THE ONLY THING THAT COMES TO MIND, JACOB HAS ONE WELL, ONLY COMES TO MIND IS, I MEAN, FOR SOMEONE WHO HAS, I'M GONNA SAY VACANT PROPERTY, THAT THAT IS IN ONE OF THESE ZONES AND NOW WE'LL GO IN ONE OF THESE ZONES, FOR THE MOST PART, IT'S A ONE-TO-ONE. YEAH. NOTHING CHANGES TOO MUCH OTHER THAN THE FREEWAY COMMERCIAL. SO IF SOMEBODY HAS PROPERTY THERE, IS THERE GONNA BE ANYTHING? UH, THEY HAVE THE PROPERTY AND SAY THEY HAD AN IDEA OF WHAT THEY WERE GONNA DO WITH IT, BUT NOW ONCE THIS IS ADOPTED, LET'S SAY, AND THAT ZONING IS, IS CHANGED TO THAT, THEY'LL SAY, HEY, NOW I CAN'T DO IT. SO ANY LIKE, FURTHER USE RESTRICTIONS, LIKE THEY HAVEN'T SUBMITTED AN APPLICATION, WHICH IS ON THEM, BUT, SO IT'S KIND OF LIKE, I WAS GONNA BUILD THIS AND NOW I CAN'T BUILD THIS. NOW WE, WE CAN, THAT'D BE THE ONLY THING I GUESS ON THE FC WE, WE CAN ANSWER THAT. SO, OKAY. HOW, HOW IS THAT GONNA BE HANDLED? WE'LL, WE'LL DO A, WE'LL DO A ONE-TO-ONE COMPARISON AND, AND SHOW THAT TO YOU. SO I MEAN THAT, AND I MAY, I GUESS MY ONLY SUGGESTION WOULD BE IN THESE MEETINGS, IF IT'S BOTH EITHER AT COUNCIL OR IN P AND Z, IS INCLUDING AS MANY STAKEHOLDERS WITH VACANT LAND THAT WE, THAT WE CAN REACH OUT TO SO THAT THEY, THEY UNDERSTAND BECAUSE WHEN U-O-U-O-D-C WAS CREATED, THEY HAD LIKE 153 PUBLIC MEETINGS AND UNTIL YOU ADOPT IT, THEN WE HAVE PEOPLE COME UP, WELL, WHY DIDN'T Y'ALL TELL ME ABOUT A MEETING? AND WE SAID, WELL, WE HAD 153 OF 'EM, BUT THEY DIDN'T GO TO THOSE MM-HMM . IT UNTIL YOU ADOPT IT. THAT'S WHEN THEY UNDERSTAND THE IMPACT. I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'VE HAD 153. THEY DID, BUT WE'VE HAD QUITE A FEW STAKEHOLDER MEETINGS. YOU CAN ASK, UH, BRENDA SMITH AND OTHER FOLKS THAT I SAID, I HAVE A LITTLE SIX MONTH COMMITTEE FOR YOU TO, TO, TO, I'D LIKE TO POINT YOU TO. AND THEY HAD A HUNDRED AND, AND LIKE 150 BECAUSE IT WAS ONLY THOSE TAKE SIX MONTHS. IT TOOK FOUR YEARS, I THINK. AND SO IT WAS 153, UH, OR 150, UH, ISH TYPE OF, UH, PUBLIC MEETINGS. THINGS ARE MOVING FAST GUYS. WE DON'T HAVE 40 YEARS TO DO THIS. NO, I KNOW. WE, WE SHOULD MAKE, MAKE IT AS LONG AS IT'S FOR THE BETTER. RIGHT. THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO GET AT. UM, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS THAT YOU'VE, JP DID YOU HAVE ANY QUESTION? I HAVE A QUESTION. JUST SOMETHING THAT CAME UP ON OUR SCAVENGER HUNT OVER HERE. UH OH. UM, WE'RE LOOKING AT, UH, PERIMETER FENCES OR WALLS. AND ONE OF THE SECTIONS IS FOR SUBDIVISION PERIMETER FENCES OR WALLS. AND IT TALKS ABOUT THE ONE ALONG THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY SAYS IT WILL BE MAINTAINED BY THE HOMEOWNER'S ASSOCIATION. SO DO WE REQUIRE A NEW SUBDIVISION TO HAVE A HOMEOWNER'S ASSOCIATION? OKAY. OKAY. YEAH. I WAS JUST CURIOUS. I'VE NOT READ THAT. WE DON'T, WE DON'T REGULATE IT. OKAY. BUT IF YOU'RE GONNA HAVE COVENANTS AND RESTRICTIONS, IT HAS TO BE HANDLED BY SOMEBODY. USUALLY THAT IS THE HOMEOWNER'S ASSOCIATION IS THE DEVELOPER UNTIL IT'S BUILT OUT. OKAY. THEN UNTIL THEY HIT A CERTAIN PERCENTAGE. RIGHT. AND THEN THAT CARRIES [00:25:01] OVER TO THE, THEY WILL START A, A REAL NEIGHBORHOOD DEVELOPMENT. BUT ONCE THE DEVELOPER'S GONE AND TAKES CARE OF THOSE, THOSE COMMON SPACES, IT HAS TO BE A, A NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION OKAY. OF SOME SORT. SO NEW, NEW SUBDIVISIONS, LET'S SAY THEY HAVE TO HAVE A MANAGEMENT COMPANY AT SOME POINT. I MEAN A ONGOING MANAGEMENT COMPANY POSSIBLY. THAT'S ONE. THAT'S ONE. WELL, THAT'S THE PROBLEM IS, IS, IS, UM, BUT WE CAN'T, BUT WE DON'T REGULATE. SO IF THEIR PERIMETER WALL ISN'T DISREPAIR YEAH. DO WE, WELL, THIS HAS HAPPENED RECENTLY, SO THAT'S WHY FIX IT. YEAH. AND SO THE QUESTION IS ONCE IT'S BUILT OUT, THE DEVELOPER GOES, I MEAN, LIKE, YOU KNOW, THEY GO AWAY. YOU KNOW, IT'S FIVE, 10 YEARS THEY GO AWAY AND YOU HAVE, LET'S SAY YOU HAVE A PERIMETER SUBDIVISION FENCING THAT STARTS TO FALL DOWN AND WHO IS RESPONSIBLE FOR IT? I I WE HAVE FIVE MINUTES LEFT AND I HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION. I WANT YOU TO, I WANT TO CLARIFY. GO AHEAD. WE, WE REQUIRE HOAS. IT'S NOT A REQUIREMENT OF AN HOA PER SE IS REQUIRING OF SOME, PER SE. IT IS. OR DO A SIMPLE QUESTION. I'LL GO BACK TO YES OR NO. DO WE REQUIRE ESTABLISHMENT OF AN HOA WITH NEW SUBDIVISIONS OF AN HOA? I DON'T THINK IT HAS TO BE AN HOA, BUT SOMEBODY HAS TO MANAGE THE CONS SPACE. AS LONG AS WE'RE NOT REQUIRING H HOAS. WELL, BECAUSE YOU CODE OVER HERE SAYING YOU HAVE TO HAVE THE HOA MANAGE IT. YEAH. SO THEN YOU'RE GONNA HAVE BE MAINTAINED BY THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION. SO THEN YOU HAVE A DISCREPANCY BETWEEN THAT THERE. WE'LL, WE'LL DO A, WE'LL DO A ONE TO ONE FOR YOU AND WE'LL WE'LL COMPARE IT FOR YOU BECAUSE WE GOT A LOT OF FINE TUNING ISSUES. SURE. CURRENT AND JUST LIKE VACANT LOTS THAT YOU CAN'T PUT UP A FENCE. WE'RE GONNA HAVE SOME DISCUSSIONS ON DETAILS AND I DON'T, I'M NOT GONNA BORE THIS CROWD WITH THAT, BUT THAT'S, THAT'S BUILDING NOTES, BUT WELL THAT'S, THERE'S SECONDARY USES AND SECONDARY STRUCTURES AND STUFF LIKE THAT. YEP. I GOT LOTS OF POINTS. SO LEADING RIGHT INTO IT, POTENTIAL CHANGES FROM WHAT YOU SAW TODAY. WAS THERE ANYTHING THAT YOU DIDN'T LIKE THAT YOU WANT US TO TAKE A SECOND LOOK AT AND POSSIBLY AMEND BEFORE RESIDENTIAL SETBACKS RESIDENTIAL SET. BUT WE DIDN'T EVEN TOUCH THOSE. THEY STAYED ALL THE SAME. YEAH, NO, YEAH, THAT'S A PROBLEM. JUST DON'T LIKE THAT'S A PROBLEM. YEAH. NOBODY LIKES THEM. NOBODY LIKES THEM. BIG. TOO SMALL. TOO SMALL. 15 FOOT, 15 FOOT RESIDENTIAL SETBACK. IT'S YOUR STANDARD IN THE WIDTH OF THE ROAD. THE WIDTH OF THE ROAD. THAT IS NOT, WELL IT IS IN THE ULDC. YOU'RE RIGHT. IT'S NOT PART OF THE ZONING, BUT IT'S IN SUBJECT OF REGULATIONS. WE JUST ADOPTED, I BELIEVE AS A CITY WE HAD JUST ADOPTED, UM, CROSS SECTIONS THAT ARE PART OF THAT CODE THAT DID EXPAND. BUT THE PROBLEM IS THE OLD NEIGHBORHOODS ARE NEVER, THEY'RE NEVER GONNA CHANGE. THEY'RE GONNA STAY WHERE THEY'RE, SO THERE'S NOT MUCH WE CAN DO ABOUT THAT. I MEAN, FOR NEW DEVELOPMENT, IT'S EITHER WE'RE GONNA HAVE THEM HAVE WIDER ROADS SO THAT YOU WOULD HAVE IN A SENSE, DURING DATE. WELL, IT ALL DEPENDS ON WHAT THEY DO. IF THEY HAVE AN HOAI GUESS. BUT YOU HAVE ON STREET PARKING WHERE EMERGENCY VEHICLES CAN STILL GET DOWN THE MIDDLE. UH, BUT AT AT LEAST WHERE IF THERE'S, UM, IF YOU, YOU EITHER HAVE A WIDER ROAD AND OR, UH, YOU WILL ACCOMMODATE THREE, THREE FULLS SIZE VEHICLES IN, IN YOUR DRIVEWAY. SO EVEN THOUGH IT HAS A 15 SET FOOT BACK, THEN THEY HAVE TO HAVE A WIDER LOCK BECAUSE THEY NEED A DRIVEWAY THAT'S WIDER FOR THREE CARS. AND YOU GOTTA REMEMBER, IF YOU'RE GONNA BE PARKING IN A DRIVEWAY, YOU CAN'T BLOCK A SIDEWALK AND THEN YOU CAN'T BLOCK THE SIDEWALK. AND SO THAT'S WHERE THE SETBACK WOULD COME IN. IT'S POSSIBLE NEIGHBORHOOD, A CITY, IT'S IMPOSSIBLE. DISTRICT A NINE FOOT, YOU HAVE SIX FOOT FOOT A CAR, IT'S CAPTURED. WHEN WE DO A, LIKE A PUD OR PROOF OF MUD, THEN WE PUT THOSE COVENANTS IN THERE. 'CAUSE YOU PARK A PICKUP TRUCK IN THOSE NEW NEIGHBORHOODS IN THE DRIVEWAY, IT BLOCKS THE ABSOLUTELY NO, I AGREE. IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. AND SO THAT'S WHY WE, WE SAY THAT YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO PARK, I MEAN WE COULD PUT A MINIMUM THE DRIVEWAY BEFORE, BEFORE, LET'S SAY BEYOND THE SIDEWALK, WHICH IS USUALLY THE CITY RIGHT AWAY IF IT'S IN THE CITY. BUT IT SHOULD BE ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE, YOU KNOW, 22 FOOT VEHICLE. I DO WANNA POINT OUT THAT WHILE WE TALKED ABOUT COMMERCIAL, UM, COMMERCIAL DISTRICTS DON'T, UH, REQUIRE OFF STREET PARKING. THE RESIDENTIAL STILL DOES. WE MADE SURE THAT STAYED IN THERE BECAUSE OF THINGS LIKE THAT. AGAIN, YOU'RE NEVER GOING TO AFFECT THOSE OLD HOMES THAT HAVE BEEN THERE THAT ONLY HAVE THE 10 FOOT, UM, DRIVEWAY OR LIKE AN ALLEY LOAD OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. NOT THAT WE HAVE MANY OF THOSE, BUT, UM, WHEN YOU, WHEN YOU GET TO THE NEW, UH, DEVELOPMENTS, IT'S GOING TO SPECIFICALLY SAY YOU HAVE TO HAVE TWO SPACES PER HOUSE AND THEY HAVE TO BE OF A CERTAIN DIMENSION. SO IF WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO GET TO WITH THE SETBACK ISSUE IS MORE PARKING, THAT'S PROBABLY A MORE, IT'S NOT A MORE STRAIGHTFORWARD WAY TO GET TO IT, BUT IT IS MORE, UM, IT'S GONNA ALLOW FOR A LITTLE BIT MORE FLEXIBILITY. SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO PUT IT THIS TYPE OF SETBACK IF YOU'RE ALLOWING FOR PARKING SOMEWHERE ELSE. IF YOU'VE ALLOWED, LIKE MAYBE YOU HAVE A SIDELOADED GARAGE OR A REAR LOAD GARAGE, SOMETHING LIKE THAT, YOU HAVE TO DRIVE AROUND THE BACK. IT WAS BY GIVING THEM OPTIONS TO, TO IT, IT WOULD TO KEEP THE SIDEWALKS CLEAR FOR EITHER, YOU KNOW, IF IT'S KIDS RIDING THEIR BIKES OR PEOPLE JUST WALKING. BUT, AND A LOT OF IT IS ABOUT ENFORCEMENT OF THE CURRENT REGULATIONS, WHICH WE CAN ONLY DO AS A CITY. WE CAN ONLY DO SO MUCH AND WE WOULD LOVE TO BE ABLE TO, TO DO EVERYTHING. BUT, AND ANYWAY, [00:30:01] I WON'T GET INTO THAT. SO MARTIN, THERE'S ONLY ONE THING THOUGH ON THE QUESTIONS NEED TO ADDRESS. I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF IT'S POSSIBLE. I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT THE PICTURES AND, AND ALL THAT. MM-HMM . BUT IF THERE IS A WAY TO BE ABLE TO SEE LIKE FOR EXAMPLE, SPECIAL USE PERMITS, NOT HAVING THE EXPIRATION DATE, SOMETHING YOU'VE MENTIONED BEFORE. UH, IT'S PDS. RIGHT. OKAY. UM, IS A CHANGE. IF THERE'S A WAY TO HAVE LIKE A CHANGE LIST, I THINK STEVE IS GOING TO PROVIDE US WITH A GENERAL SUMMARY OF THE CHANGES FROM ONE CODE TO THE OTHER. IF HE WASN'T, HE'S GOING TO NOW , I BELIEVE WE DISCUSSED IT BEFORE. I MEAN, I THINK THAT WOULD BE GREAT. I MEAN THIS IS ALL WONDERFUL, BUT THAT'S ONE THING THAT WASN'T REALLY MENTIONED AT ALL THIS, YOU KNOW, TO BE ABLE TO SEE MAYBE WHAT WE DIDN'T SEE. SURE. BUT WHAT IS AND WHAT WE DID SEE, WHAT ARE ACTUAL CHANGES, RIGHT. AND, AND AGAIN, WE WEREN'T AIMING TO COME IN HERE TONIGHT AND SHOW YOU EVERY CHANGE COURSE BECAUSE THAT'S IMPOSSIBLE FOR US TO DO. OF COURSE. YEAH. IT IS A, IT IS A FULL REWORK UP OF THE CODE. SOME THINGS ARE STAYING THE SAME, BUT THERE'S PROBABLY LESS STAYING THE SAME AND MORE THAT'S CHANGING. SO WE, WE CAN DEFINITELY GET YOU THAT, THAT SUMMARY, UM, PRIOR TO ANY DECISIONS WE MADE. THAT SAID IT IS EIGHT O'CLOCK. IT'S 8 0 1. IN FACT IT'S LIKE 6 0 1, BUT IT SIX. THANKS FOR, THANKS FOR TAKING US OVER TO THE EAST COAST. I THOUGHT I WAS GOING HOME EAST IN THE MIDDLE OF PACIFIC SOMEWHERE. I THOUGHT I WAS GOING HOME EARLY. ANYWAY, I WANNA BE RESPECT THE TITANIC. I WANNA BE RESPECTFUL OF YOUR TIME. SO AGAIN, THANK YOU EVERYBODY. THIS WAS AMAZING FOR US. I THINK WE GOT SOME REALLY GREAT FEEDBACK. I REALLY WANNA THANK YOU FOR PARTICIPATING AND BEING GOOD SPORTS. UH, ESPECIALLY MIKE OR MICHAEL. 'CAUSE UH, I WAS REALLY KIND OF RIBBING HIM AT THE BEGINNING. SO, UM, AGAIN, THANK YOU. IF YOU HAVE OTHER QUESTIONS, PLEASE LET STAFF KNOW. WE WILL ALSO MAKE SURE THAT YOU HAVE THE LINKS TO THE, THE NEW CODE, THE PROPOSED CODE, THE ELECTRONIC VERSION, AND THE PDF VERSION. IF YOU REALLY WANT A PRINTED VERSION, WE'LL GET YOU ONE. BUT WE PREFER NOT TO PRINT 'EM OUT. IT'S A LOT OF PRINTING. SO, UM, AND IT REALLY ISN'T DESIGNED TO BE A PRINTED DOCUMENT, DESIGNED CONTENT. THE YEP. AND WE ALSO, WE'LL ALSO MAKE SURE YOU HAVE LINKS TO THE NEW ZONING, UH, TO THE PROPOSED ZONING CODE OR ZONING MAP AS WELL. AND THOSE ARE, UH, UH, AVAILABLE TO ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC. UM, THAT GETS ON BAYTOWN ENGAGE, HOPEFULLY CAN FIND THEM FROM THERE AS WELL, TOP OF AGE. BUT WE'LL MAKE SURE YOU GUYS, UH, EVERYBODY HERE GETS A, UM, UH, SPECIFIC LINK TO THAT. WITH THAT, UM, UH, THAT CONCLUDES, THAT CONCLUDES OUR PRESENTATION MAYOR. OKAY. SO, UM, ALRIGHT. SO BE IT THAT, UH, BAYTOWN CITY COUNCIL AND THE PLANNING ZONING COMMISSION HAS ADDRESSED ALL POST AGENDA ITEMS FOR THIS WORK SESSION. THIS WORK SESSION NOW, ADJOURN. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.