* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. WE'RE [00:00:01] LIVE. SO THIS IS THE BAYTOWN CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN COMMITTEE. THURSDAY, APRIL 25TH AT FOUR O'CLOCK, WE HAVE QUORUM. UH, JAMES AND MIKE ARE HERE. SARAH IS ON OUR WAY. SO, BRENT, TAKE IT OFF. ALL RIGHTY. GOOD [a. Discuss Proposed FY25-29 Capital Improvement Plan. ] AFTERNOON. UM, OUR ORIGINAL INTENT WAS TO COVER BOTH, UM, DRAINAGE AND, UM, PARKS. UH, WITH, UH, OUR LIMITED TIME TODAY, WE'RE GONNA, UH, GET THROUGH DRAINAGE. I THINK THE PARKS DISCUSSION WILL PROBABLY TAKE MORE THAN 30 MINUTES. UM, SO, UH, THAT, YOU KNOW, AFTER TODAY, THAT'LL LEAVE THREE, UH, CATEGORIES REMAINING, AND THEN WE CAN KIND OF CIRCLE BACK AND, UM, AND GO FROM THERE IN TERMS OF, UH, RECOMMENDATIONS, MODIFICATIONS, WHATNOT. UH, SO WE'RE GONNA GO THROUGH THE STORMWATER, UH, DRAINAGE PORTION. UH, LOOK AT THE SYSTEM, LOOK AT THE CAPITAL PROJECTS THAT ARE OUT THERE. UH, WE'LL TALK ABOUT THE, UM, UH, THE MASTER DRAINAGE PLAN AND, UM, STATUS OF IT, AND, UH, WHAT OTHER NEEDS WE SHOULD PROBABLY, WHAT OTHER NEEDS WE COULD POSSIBLY CONSIDER GOING FORWARD. GIVE YOU SPECIFICS ON THE NEXT SLIDE. BUT THE INVENTORY HAS, UH, OUR DRAINAGE PIPES, DITCHES, DETENTION BASINS, CULVERTS, INLETS, THE, UH, DRAINAGE OUTLETS, UH, MANHOLES, CATCH BASINS, UH, ITEMS, UH, LIKE THAT. SO IN THE PAST, UH, BUDGET PLANNING, YOU KNOW, SPECIFICALLY IT WAS, UM, ONLY PROJECT CENTRIC. NOW, THE CURRENT REVENUES THAT, UH, THAT WE HAVE, UM, LOOKS LIKE DID, IS THIS THE VERSION THAT I EMAILED YOU? YES, THIS IS, BUT THAT IS, UM, IS THAT PRINTED? THIS IS FROM YOUR EMAIL PRINT. I WAS GONNA SAY, BUT IT, IT DOESN'T LOOK THE SAME FOR ME. NO, IT'S MISSING A COUPLE. IT'S DIFFERENT. OKAY. SO THE BUDGET HAS, UH, TYPICALLY BEEN SUPPORTED, UH, OR THE NUMBERS BY PROJECTS. UM, WE HAVE RECEIVED GRANTS THAT REQUIRED A 50%, UH, LOCAL MATCH. THE, UH, PROJECTS HAVE, UH, IN THIS FUND HAVE BEEN TRADITIONALLY FUNDED BY STORMWATER DEBT, UH, SUPPORTED BY THE, UM, UH, BY THE FUND AND THE FEES THAT ARE COLLECTED. UH, PREVIOUSLY THERE WAS AN INCREASE OF A DOLLAR, UH, PER HOME TO ALLOW FOR THIS ISSUANCE OF DEBT. UH, CURRENT REV, CURRENT REVENUE ESTIMATES DO NOT SUPPORT ANY ADDITIONAL PROJECTS OR DEBT CAPACITY AT THIS TIME. UH, SO THE, UM, THE MASTER CHANGE PLAN WAS COMPLETED ORIGINALLY IN 2010, AND IT WAS UPDATED IN 2020. AND THOSE SPECIFIC PROJECTS IDENTIFIED, UM, WERE THE BASIS FOR WHAT HAS BEEN INCLUDED IN THE CIP SO FAR. WE WILL BE LOOKING AT, UM, WE DO HAVE A DRAINAGE ASSESSMENT THAT WE DO FROM AN OPERATIONAL PERSPECTIVE. UH, NOT REALLY INTENDED TO, UH, INFORM CAPRA PROJECTS, BUT IF WE END UP MAKING OR NEEDING TO MAKE DECISIONS BASED ON, UM, WHAT WE SEE IN THE FIELD OR HAVE THAT INFORMATION, WE DO HAVE THAT AVAILABLE AS WELL. UH, LET'S SEE. OKAY, SO THE INVENTORY, UH, WE HAVE AROUND 227 MILES OF, UH, PIPING, UH, 286 MILES OF DITCHES, 65 DETENTION BASINS OR PONDS, UH, TOTALING, UH, 626 ACRES, UH, ALMOST 21 MILES OF, UH, CULVERTS, UH, 9,690 INLETS, 1655, UH, IN FALLS, 1891 OUTFALLS AND 3,329 MANHOLE. UH, THAT IS A LOT. UM, YOU KNOW, IN TERMS OF MAINTENANCE, IN TERMS OF BEING ABLE TO, YOU KNOW, PUT YOUR HANDS ON EVERYTHING AT LEAST ONCE A YEAR, THAT'S, UH, THAT'S A LOT TO, UM, HAVE OUT THERE. UM, YOU KNOW, THIS IS NOT THE, UH, NOTES. SAME HERE. I HAVE IT ON IT. JUMP DRIVE. DO YOU WANT TO, UM, YEAH, THIS IS THE ONE WHICH, OKAY. YEAH, GO AHEAD AND GIMME EMAIL. SORRY, Y'ALL GIVE US A MINUTE. IT'S ACTUALLY, I'M, WHAT'S THAT? IT'S, IT'S, UH, ON THE COMPUTER HERE. IT'S NOT FROM BLUE FROM HERE. IT IS ON HERE, RIGHT? YEAH. [00:05:04] YOU KNOW WHICH ONE? I BELIEVE IT IS THE LEFT. UH, ANOTHER RIGHT? YEP, THE OTHER ONE. OKAY. THAT'S BETTER. SO, UH, WHAT YOU HAVE, UH, HERE, BASICALLY A SUMMARY OF THE RESULTS OF THE MASTER PLAN. AND, UH, THERE WERE 20 PROJECTS IDENTIFIED AND THEY WERE CATEGORIZED, UM, IN TERMS OF PRIORITY, THE HIGH PRIORITY, UM, LOOKED AT PONDING BEYOND THE RIGHT OF WAY, UH, OF A FOOT OR MORE FOR A TWO YEAR STORM MEDIAN PRIORITY, UH, A FOOT OR LESS BEYOND THE RIGHT OF WAY, LOW PRIORITY. THERE'S NO INITIAL, UM, PONDING BEYOND THE RIGHT OF WAY. HOWEVER, THERE'S A LOT OF MOBILITY ISSUES THAT, UH, WERE INCLUDED IN THIS, UH, IN THE LOW CATEGORIES. UH, FOR THE MOST PART, THE ONLY PROJECTS THAT, UH, RECEIVED FUNDING WERE THOSE, UH, HIGH PRIORITY PROJECTS. AND SO, WE'LL FLIP THROUGH REAL QUICK, JUST KIND OF, UM, MAPPING IN TERMS OF THE PRIORITIES. THE WEST BAYTOWN AREA, DANINA AREA PROJECTS, UH, YOU KNOW, THESE ARE THE, UH, THE MAIN PROJECTS THAT WERE FUNDED AS A RESULT OF THE MASTER PLAN. UH, NORMAL OR MEDIUM PRIORITIES, AREAS IDENTIFIED, AND THEN A LOW PRIORITY. AND SO WHEN WE LOOK AT THE ACTUAL CIP, UM, YOU KNOW, ONCE AGAIN, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE VERY FEW PROJECTS AND REALISTICALLY THE ONLY PROJECTS THAT, UM, YOU, YOU HAVE ACTIVITY ACROSS, UH, BASICALLY FIVE, UH, PROJECTS, SIX, IF YOU CONSIDER JAMES AREA SEC SEPARATE. BUT, UM, AS I UNDERSTAND IT, THOSE WERE, UH, FUNDED AND ARE BEING, UM, IMPLEMENTED TOGETHER. SO YOU HAVE A TOTAL OF $20 MILLION, UM, LEFT TO FUND. AND THESE NUMBERS DO REPRESENT OUR GRANT MATCH REQUIREMENTS. THEY DON'T REPRESENT THE ACTUAL PROJECT COST, UH, HERE, BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, THIS KIND OF SHOWS WHAT'S GONNA BE NEEDED FROM THE, UM, FROM THE FUND IN TERMS OF DEBT THAT HAS TO BE SUPPORTED. SO BEYOND THESE FIVE, UH, THERE ARE NO OTHER PROJECTS, UH, PLANNED FOR OUTSIDE OF, UM, OUTSIDE OF THESE. AND ONCE YOU GET TO 27, 28, 29, WE HAVE NO ACTIVITY CURRENTLY PLANNED. SO FROM A POLICY PERSPECTIVE, UH, THERE'S A COUPLE THINGS THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN CONSIDER, UM, LOOKING AT, UH, SUPPORTING THIS WITH FUNDS FROM THE GENERAL FUND, UH, AS DOES EVERYTHING ELSE, UH, LOOK TO THE GENERAL FUND. UH, BUT YOU COULD ALSO CONSIDER CHANGING THE, UM, THE STORMWATER FEE TO ACCOUNT FOR ADDITIONAL DEBT SERVICE. THE, UM, OTHER OPTION. OBVIOUSLY YOU CAN WAIT AND, UH, FOR THAT DEBT CAPACITY TO KIND OF, UH, UH, OPEN UP A LITTLE BIT AND INCREMENTALLY GO FROM THERE. SO YOU HAVE A COUPLE OF OPTIONS THERE, JUST FROM A, UM, A POLICY PERSPECTIVE. AND WE CAN FLIP THROUGH FAIRLY QUICKLY ON JUST THE MAP, UH, THE ACTUAL PROJECT SHEETS, IF YOU WILL, LOOKING AT WHAT'S PROPOSED AND HOW THE PHASING IS LAID OUT. THE VENA AREA, JAMES AREA. AND ONCE AGAIN, YOU KNOW, THESE PROJECTS ARE LINKED, UH, BECAUSE THEY DO SHARE DETENTION CAPACITY, BAYTOWN, THE SOUTH MAIN, AND THEN REPUBLIC. AND, UM, YOU'LL SEE A [00:10:01] COUPLE NOTES AS IT RELATES TO, UM, THIS PROJECT AND A COUPLE OTHERS THAT THESE WERE NOT INCLUDED IN THE 2020 MASTER PLAN. 'CAUSE THEY WERE ALREADY IN PROGRESS. UH, SO YOU WON'T SEE THEM ON THAT LIST, BUT YOU DO SEE THEM IN THE PRIOR FUNDING IN THE, UM, IN THAT CIP TABLE THAT WE LOOKED AT UP, YOU SAW IT TO GO. SAME THING WITH, UH, THE WEST TEXAS AVENUE PROJECT. UM, SAN JACINTO'S SEPARATE. YEAH. UM, SO THAT DOES, UM, BRING US TO SAN JACINTO, WHICH, YOU KNOW, WE TALKED ABOUT THE STORMWATER FUND PRIMARILY, UM, BEING THE SOURCE OF, UH, DEBT FINANCING FOR THOSE PROJECTS. THIS PROJECT IS, UH, AN EXCEPTION AND THAT THE 7.5 MILLION FOR THIS PROJECT, UH, IS FUNDED VIA TURS. ONE PAUSE. UM, YOU CAN GO BACK, ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. UM, BUT, UH, AT THIS POINT, YOU KNOW, UH, THIS IS THE RECOMMENDATION FOR THE CIP TO SIMPLY FINISH OUT WHAT WE HAVE AND AUTHORIZE THE FUTURE FUNDING FOR THE DANINA AREA AND JAMES AREA PROJECTS. DO YOU HAVE COST ON PHASE ONE AND THE COST OF PHASE TWO? I'M SORRY, WHAT'S THE PHASE ONE COST? PHASE TWO COST ON WHICH ONE? SO YOU HAVE PHASE ONE, PHASE TWO, AND THEN THREE. RIGHT. SO WHAT'S PHASE ONE COST? SO THIS WOULD'VE BEEN IN THE 2020. THEY WERE IN THE 2020, OKAY. I CREATED, YEAH, THE NUMBERS WE HAVE HERE, THIS IS, THAT'S JUST THE MATCH PORTION BECAUSE YOU HAVE 78 MILLION. WHAT'S 78 MILLION? IS THAT, SO DOES THAT ALSO INCLUDE WHAT'S ALREADY BEEN DONE? THAT'S ALL THREE? YEAH, THAT'S ALL THREE. ONE, TWO, AND THREE. AND THEN JAMES AREA DOES HAVE A, UM, A COST ASSIGNED TO IT FROM THE MASTER PLAN OF 9 MILLION. UM, WE WERE LOOKING AT CLOSE TO 90 MILLION FOR, UM, FOR ALL THREE PHASES IN THE JAMES AREA. OKAY. AND HOW MUCH OF, HOW MUCH IS PHASE, THE PHASE TWO AND PHASE THREE? WHAT WE, WHAT WE'RE SAYING? I BELIEVE I REMEMBER PHASE ONE BEING ABOUT, UH, 50 40, 50 MILLION. OKAY. UM, SO I THINK ABOUT HALF WAS PHASE ONE, AND THEN I THINK, UM, THE 28 MILLION WOULD GO INTO PHASE TWO AND THREE APPROXIMATELY. BUT THAT'S A, A JOINT PROJECT BETWEEN US AND HARRIS COUNTY, CORRECT? TWO 50, YEAH. YES. SO THAT'S THE TOTAL PROJECT COST. SO OUR COST IS ROUGHLY HALF 1470 8 MILLION. OUR COST IS ABOUT 30, 37, 35, 36. SORRY. SO THAT'S WHY THE, UM, THE REMAINDER THAT YOU SEE ON, UM, THE ACTUAL BREAKOUT GOING TOWARDS OUR GRANT MATCH AND THE 20 MILLIONS GOING TOWARDS PHASE ONE STILL, I DON'T BELIEVE SO. SO IT'S GOING INTO THE PHASE WE CAN GET, WE'LL GET, YEAH, WE CAN GET A SPECIFIC PROGRESS, BUT, UM, BECAUSE THAT, 'CAUSE BASICALLY YOU'RE SAYING IT'S 20 MILLION LEFT TO FINISH, THAT SHOULD BE 14 ON US, 14 ON HARRIS 20 GOING INTO THAT. SO 14 IS TOWARDS TWO AND THREE AND PROBABLY SIX OF THAT'S GONNA FINISHING UP ONE OR TWO PHASE ONE, I WOULD ASSUME I WOULD. THAT SOUNDS ABOUT RIGHT. LOOK, GET THE DETAILS, UH, AND SEND THAT. NO, I, I JUST, JUST KIND OF LOOK AT NUMBERS DOWN. YOU DON'T HAVE TO GO INTO DETAILS. I DID. IT MAKES SENSE. NOT SAYING IT THAT WAY. OKAY. BECAUSE I'M GOING, OKAY, 70 MILLION, WE GOT 20, WHAT THE, WHERE'S THE REST OF THE, WHERE ARE WE COMING OUT OF THIS? YEAH, THAT, THAT MAKES SENSE. AND UH, IF, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE ARE OTHER PROJECTS THAT YOU ALL WOULD LIKE TO SEE PROGRAMMED INTO THE CIP, UH, IF SO, PLEASE LET US KNOW, UM, AT THAT POINT. AND WE WOULD NEED TO LOOK AT, UH, WHAT THE FINANCING POSSIBILITIES WOULD BE. UM, AND THEN THERESA AND HER TEAM COULD APPROACH THE FINANCE COMMITTEE IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU ALL, UH, WANTED TO LOOK AT. UM, YOU KNOW, BUT AT THIS POINT, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THE TURS, UH, FUNDED PROJECT AND THEN, UH, THE REMAINING FOR DANIEL BINA AND JAMES AREA IN TERMS OF FUNDING PROJECTED, IF I COULD, I'D LIKE TO SAY A BREAK OUT ON THE, UH, STORMWATER FUND, EXACTLY HOW MUCH WE'LL BRING IT IN AND HOW THAT'S BEING BROKEN OUT. AND THE DEBT SERVICE, UH, DEBT SERVICE AS IT GOES TO IS THE IDEA OF RACING THAT, AGAIN, THAT'S NOT A GOOD IDEA. MAYBE A GOOD IDEA, BUT THAT'S NOT FULLY GONNA BE A GOOD IDEA. . UM, WOULD YOU WANT TO SEE KIND OF WHEN WE WOULD'VE MEANINGFUL CAPACITY IN THE FUTURE? I, I JUST WANNA SEE HOW IT'S BROKEN OUT NOW. BUT WOULD YOU WANT TO, WOULD YOU WANT TO LOOK AT THAT IN CONTEXT OF FUTURE PROJECTS? OR, OR, YEAH. OKAY. BUT REALLY JUST HOW MUCH IS GOING TOWARDS OPERATIONS, [00:15:01] HOW MUCH IS GOING TOWARDS THIS SERVICE? HOW MUCH THE TOTAL REVENUE? WE, WE TOOK A PRETTY GOOD TONGUE LASTING LAST TIME WE RAISED IT UP, SO WE JUST CAN'T KEEP GOING BACK TO THAT. WELL, THIS UNDERSTOOD. YES, SIR. THEN YOU BEING IN JAMES AREA, WE'VE GOT THAT'S A HAT IN HAND. 'CAUSE IF THEY DO THE TOP SIDE, DON'T DO THE BOTTOM SIDE. SO NEXT TIME WE'LL VISIT ON PARKS OR, YEAH, I WAS GONNA ASK, UH, YOU KNOW, NORMALLY WE, WE'VE DONE ONE A, YOU KNOW, ONE A MONTH. UM, WE CAN CHECK EVERYONE'S AVAILABILITY FOR THE NINTH, UH, TO MAYBE FOCUS ON PARKS IF, UH, OH WAIT, WE HAVE, UH, UH, THAT'S TRUE. OKAY. [b. Determine next meeting date.] SO WE WON'T CHECK ON THE NINTH. SO, UH, OUR NEXT MEETING WILL BE THE 23RD. OKAY. AND, UM, KIND OF GO FROM THERE. PROBABLY JUST FOCUS ON PARKS ON THE 23RD AND THEN BY THAT TIME COME JUNE, WE UM, SHOULD BE ABLE TO GET, UM, EVERYONE HERE PROBABLY, OR AT LEAST COUNCILMAN GRAHAM WILL BE OUT OF, UH, SCHOOL. AND THE 23RD, WHICH ONE MAY 23RD? WEDNESDAY'S, GCM, THURSDAY STERLING AND FRIDAY WILL BE LISA, SHE'LL BE THIRD AT LEAST IF SHE'S BEEN ANYTHING WITH ME. AND IF Y'ALL NEED TO GET TO PREPARE A BUNCH OF STUFF AND THEN HAVE A SPECIAL MEETING. JUNE, WHAT WE'LL DO IS WE'LL SEND OUT, I FORGOT YOU AND I HAD TALKED EVEN, UH, ABOUT SENDING OUT THE PARK PRESENTATION EARLY. SO WE'LL MAKE A NOTE TO SEND THAT OUT AND AT LEAST GIVE YOU ALL SOME TIME TO TAKE A LOOK AT IT INDIVIDUALLY. MAY 23RD, I'LL BE OUT. THAT'S MY SON'S GRADUATION DAY. OKAY. SO WE NEED TO BUMP THAT ONE TO THAT EARLY. WHAT ABOUT EARLIER IN THAT WEEK? WOULD YOU BE GAME I BLAME ME EARLIER IN THE WEEK? I'M FINE. I CAN DO WEDNESDAY, TUESDAY'S, NOT A PROBLEM. OKAY. GET THAT. I'M NOT, I'M GONNA BE HERE THAT WHOLE WEEK. I'M NOT. WE'LL, UH, SEND OUT SOME PARK'S PRESENTATION AND POLL ON, UM, A POSSIBLE, SOME POSSIBLE ALTERNATIVE, UH, MEETING DATES. SHOOT FOR TUESDAY, BECAUSE THAT'S NOT IN THE, IT'S WEDNESDAY, THURSDAY, FRIDAY FOR THE GRADUATIONS. IT'S WEDNESDAY, THURSDAY, FRIDAYS, TUESDAY. OKAY. ALRIGHT. IS THAT IT? THAT'S ALL WE HAVE. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR ANYTHING? UH, FOR STAFF? NO. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU SO MUCH. TALK ABOUT EVERYTHING WE CAN ADJOURN. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.