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WE HAVE A CALL.[2. CITIZEN COMMENTS Notice is hereby given that in accordance with the Texas Open Meetings Act, Texas Government Code, Chapter 551, prohibits the Planning and Zoning Commission from discussing, deliberating, or considering, subjects for which public notice has not been given on the agenda. Issues that cannot be referred to the administration for action may be placed on the agenda of a future Planning and Zoning Session.]
UH, I'M GONNA READ THE, UH, CITIZEN'S COMMENT STATEMENT.UH, THE PURPOSE OF THE CITIZEN'S COMMENTS IS TO GIVE CITIZENS THE RIGHT TO EXPRESS THEIR VIEWS.
ANYONE DESIRING TO SPEAK SHOULD HAVE SIGN THE APPROPRIATE LIST IN THE FOYER OUT THERE.
UH, EACH CITIZEN, UH, SHALL GIVE THEIR NAME AND ADDRESS TO PROVIDE A PROPER RECORD.
THE RULES ALLOW EACH PERSON ONE MINUTE TO SPEAK.
A CITIZEN MAY PASS THEIR TIME TO ANOTHER PERSON WHO REQUESTED TO ADDRESS THE PLANNING ZONING COMMISSION.
HOWEVER, NO CITIZENS REMARKS SHALL EXCEED THREE MINUTES.
UH, THE ONE OR THREE MINUTE LIMIT MAY BE EXTENDED BY A MAJORITY VOTE OF THE COMMISSION.
I ENCOURAGE EVERYONE AS TO BE CONCISE AS POSSIBLE.
UH, PLEASE KEEP IN MIND THE COMMISSION CANNOT DISCUSS OR DELIBERATE ON ITEMS FOR WHICH PUBLIC NOTICE HAS NOT BEEN GIVEN ON THIS AGENDA.
WE HAVE ANOTHER ONE SIGNED UP.
[a. Consider approving the meeting minutes of the March 19, 2024, Planning and Zoning Commission regular meeting.]
UH, CONSIDER APPROVING THE MEETING MINUTES FROM MARCH 19TH, 2024, PLANNING, ZONING.COMMISSIONER, REGULAR MEETING.
I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE.
UM, NEXT IS THE PUBLIC HEARING SCRIPT FOR Y'ALL.
I'LL READ THE FOLLOWING, UH, ONE TIME, AND IT APPLIES TO ALL PUBLIC HEARINGS.
PUBLIC HEARINGS ARE HELD FOR THE PURPOSE OF GIVING ALL INTERESTED PERSONS THE RIGHT TO SPEAK AND TO BE HEARD.
EVERYONE, UH, DESIRING TO SPEAK AT TODAY'S HEARING SHALL HAVE SIGNED THE APPROPRIATE LIST AS THIS LIST WILL PROVIDE THE SPEAKING ORDER FOR THE HEARING.
UH, EACH SPEAKER SHALL GIVE THEIR NAME AND ADDRESS TO PROVIDE A PROPER RECORD OF THIS HEARING.
THE RULES ALLOW EACH SPEAKER THREE MINUTES TO PRESENT INFORMATION.
HOWEVER, I ENCOURAGE EVERYONE TO BE CONCISE.
IF YOU'RE IN A GROUP, UH, WISHING TO ADDRESS THE BOARD ON THE SAME SUBJECT, PLEASE SELECT A SPOKESPERSON TO PRESENT THE INFORMATION.
IF ANYONE HAS ANY QUESTIONS, PLEASE DIRECT THEM TO ME.
AND THE FIRST ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS NUMBER FIVE, CONSENT.
UH, DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE? YES.
FOR A, WE MISSED FOR A, FOR A THANK YOU.
[a. Conduct a public hearing and consider a request to amend the official zoning map to rezone approximately 7.19 acres located on the west side of Crosby Cedar Bayou Road and approximately 0.17 miles north of Massey Tompkins Road from Single-Family Estate (SFE) to a Mixed Residential at Low to Medium Densities (SF2) Zoning District. ]
SO, ITEM FOUR A'S IS, CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDER REQUEST TO AMEND THE OFFICIAL ZONING MAP TO REZONE APPROXIMATELY 7.19 ACRES LOCATED ON THE WEST SIDE OF CROSBY, CEDAR BAYOU ROAD, AND APPROXIMATELY 0.17 MILES NORTH OF MASSEY TOMPKINS ROAD FROM A SINGLE FAMILY ESTATE SFE TO MIXED RESIDENTIAL AT LOW TO MEDIUM DENSITIES, SF TWO ZONING DISTRICT, I THINK THERE'S, I THINK ENGINEERING'S GONNA SPEAK.THE CITY, NO STAFF WILL GIVE A PRESENTATION FIRST.
HEY, TIM, TURN YOUR MICROPHONE ON.
GOOD EVENING, MR. CHAIRMAN AND THE COMMISSIONERS.
TIM CHI HERE WITH C'S PLANNING AND THE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.
BEFORE YOU LISTENING, IS A PROPOSED ZONING MAP AMENDMENT.
THIS ITEM WAS TABLED AT THE MARCH NINES PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING AS MORE TIME WAS NEEDED TO CONSIDER THE FINDINGS OF A TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS.
THE COMPLETED, COMPLETED ANALYSIS IS PROVIDED IN THE DOCUMENT LIBRARY SECTION OF THE CITY'S BETON ENGAGE WEBSITE.
THE APPLICANT'S ENGINEERING STAFF IS ALSO HERE THIS EVENING, AND THEY WILL, UH, GIVE A PRESENTATION AFTER CITY STAFF'S PRESENTATION.
THE SUBJECT SIDE IS APPROXIMATELY 7.19 ACRES LOCATED ON THE WEST SIDE OF CROSS BE CROSS BAY CEDAR BAYOU ROAD, APPROXIMATELY 0.17 MILES NORTH OF MASSING MASSI TOKIS.
THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING TO REZONE THE SUBJECT SIDE FROM SINGLE FAMILY OR STATE SFE TO MIXED RESIDENTIAL AT LOW TO MEDIAN DENSITIES.
HERE ARE SOME PICTURES OF THE SITE FROM STREET VIEW.
AS YOU CAN SEE, THE SITE IS CURRENTLY VACANT AND UNDEVELOPED.
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HERE'S AN AREA.THE SURROUNDING AREAS CONTAIN VACANT, UNDEVELOPED AREAS, RECREATIONAL VEHICLES, AND THE SCATTERED RURAL RESIDENCIES.
THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP DESIGNATES THE SUBJECT SIDE FOR THE LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL AND THE LATICE IN LINE WITH THE PROPOSED ZONING OF, OF SF TWO MIXED RESIDENTIAL AT LOW TO MEDIAN DENSITIES.
THE PROPERTY TO THE WEST IS ZONED SF TWO, THE PROPERTIES TO THE SOUTH AND THE EAST ARE ZONED SFE.
THE PROPERTY TO THE NORTH WAS REZONED TO SF TWO IN DECEMBER, 2022 THROUGH CITY SPONSORED BLUE HEARING.
ACCORDING TO CITY'S FUTURE LAND USE MAP, THE SUBJECT SIDE, THE IMMEDIATE SURROUNDING AREAS AND MUCH FURTHER OUT IN THE VICINITY ARE ALL CLASSIFIED AS LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL AREAS, AND THEREFORE, BOTH THE PROPOSED ZONING TO SF TWO AND THE FUTURE LAND USE CLASSIFICATIONS FOR THE SUBJECT SIDE ARE COMPATIBLE WITH SURROUNDING AREAS.
THIS CONCLUDES STAFF'S REPORT AND THE STAFF RECOMMEND APPROVAL.
ANYONE ELSE FROM ENGINEERING SPEAK? I THINK AT THIS TIME, THE APPLICANT AND, UH, THEIR ENGINEERS WILL PROVIDE A PRESENTATION TO THE COMMISSION AS WELL.
AND MICHAEL, YOU FIRST I'LL, I'LL GET OKAY.
I'M THE APPLICANT FOR IZZY SHALE.
I'M TRYING TO GET IT REZONED TO THE SF TWO, WHICH IS THE, UH, SINGLE FAMILY TWO CLASSIFICATION.
AND TODAY I HAVE MY ENGINEERS HERE AS WELL.
CAN YOU, IT'S NOT ON, WE'RE HAVING A HARD TIME HEARING YOU.
AND TODAY I HAVE MY ENGINEERS HERE AS WELL, UM, FROM LJA ENGINEERING, AND THEY, UH, WERE ASKED TO, TO PUT SOME, UH, POINTERS FORWARD FROM THE ENGINEERING STUDY THAT WE CONDUCTED ON THE TRAFFIC, ON THE TRAFFIC IMPACT THAT WE, ON THE TRAFFIC IMPACT THAT WE, UH, THAT WE ARE ASKED TO TALK ABOUT AND THAT THE CITY ENGINEERS ALSO HAVE REVIEWED.
SO, I'D LIKE TO JUST GO THROUGH A FEW, A FEW, UH, ITEMS BEFORE I CALL THE ENGINEER TO THE, TO THE PODIUM.
SO THE, THE PROPOSED SUBDIVISION IS, IS GONNA BE CALLED IZZY.
UH, VACANT LAND CURRENTLY, WE'RE STILL HAVING A HARD TIME.
SO THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT WILL BE CALLED IZZY CHALET, AND IT'S A 7.2, UH, ACRES, UH, CURRENTLY VACANT, UNUSED, UH, PROPERTY.
UH, WE PROPOSED TO DO 32 LOTS, 32 HOUSES, BASICALLY.
UH, WE WOULD HAVE AN ENGINEERED DETENTION POND, OF COURSE.
UM, AND WE WOULD PUT A FIVE FOOT SIDEWALK ON CROSBY, CEDAR BAY.
SO THAT LOOKS LIKE YOU CAN USE THAT, YOU KNOW, FOR KIDS TO GET TO THE, UH, THE PARK AND SO ON.
AND ALSO ALLOW CONNECTIVITY LATER ON TO OTHER DEVELOPMENTS.
UH, ALONG THAT ROADWAY, UH, WE, WE PROPOSED TO HAVE TWO DRIVEWAYS AND WE LANDSCAPE BUFFERS.
SO I'D LIKE TO JUST GO THROUGH SOME OF THE PROS AND CONS OF, OF THE DEVELOPMENT.
UM, THE FIRST ONE IS THAT THE MAXIMUM THEN STEEL ALLOWED BY SF TWO IS, IS ACTUALLY NINE NINE, UH, HOMES PER ACRE.
AND OUR DEVELOPMENTS ACTUALLY GONNA CUT THAT IN HALF TO ABOUT FOUR AND A HALF, ROUGHLY FOUR AND A HALF HOMES PER ACRE.
SO THAT, THAT HELPS WITH ANY CONCERN FOR CONGESTION AND SO ON.
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IT WOULD PROVIDE HOUSING, ADDITIONAL HOUSING FOR, FOR BAYTOWN.UM, AND I'M SURE THAT, UH, THE CITY NEEDS ADDITIONAL HOUSING AND THESE WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, SORT OF PREMIUM, YOU KNOW, AFFORDABLE TYPE HOUSES.
SO I THINK THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT BAYTOWN RESIDENTS, IF THEY'RE LOOKING TO UPGRADE OR OR MOVE INTO THE AREA, WOULD, WOULD WELCOME, IT WOULD PROMOTE JOBS AND LOCAL GROWTH AND EXPANSION, OF COURSE.
UM, IT WOULD, IT WOULD DRIVE A LOT OF COMMERCE FOR, FOR THE, FOR THE CITY OF BAYTOWN.
UM, DEFINITELY THERE WOULD BE AN INCREASE IN TAX REVENUE, UH, WHICH WOULD HELP TO FUND, UH, ANY KINDA LOCAL IMPROVEMENTS OR DEVELOPMENTS TO THAT AREA.
OR DIS DISTRICT FIVE, I BELIEVE IT'S, IT'S IN, UM, WE'D HAVE A CONSTRUCTION OF A PUBLIC SIDEWALK, AS I MENTIONED EARLIER.
AND, UM, IT WOULD ATTRACT POTENTIAL DEVELOPMENT TO THE NEIGHBORING TRACKS AS WELL.
ONE OF THE CONS WOULD BE, IT WOULD, OBVIOUSLY, ONE OF THE MAIN CONCERNS AT THE LAST MEETING WAS THAT, UH, WE'D HAVE SOME ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC GENERATED FROM THE SUBDIVISION.
ACCORDING TO TRAFFIC STUDY, WE'RE LOOKING AT ABOUT 30 TRIPS ESTIMATED FOR IN THE AFTERNOON PERIOD, IN AND OUT OF THE SUBDIVISION.
SO THAT WOULD BE LIKE ONE, ONE TRIP, ONE NEW TRIP EVERY, UH, TWO MINUTES OR SO.
MY ENGINEERS WILL GET INTO THAT, UH, LATER.
SO CURRENTLY THE APPRAISAL VALUE OF THE PROPERTY IS SIX OR $700,000.
THE PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY CLASSIFIED AS AGRICULTURAL LAND.
SO THE CITY DERIVES ALMOST NO REVENUE, TAX REVENUE FROM IT.
UM, AFTER THE DEVELOPMENT OF 32 SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, UM, UH, THE, THE VALUE OF THE, OF THE PROPERTY WOULD BE INCREASED TO ALMOST $10 MILLION.
SO THAT WOULD GREATLY, UH, HELP DRIVE SOME ADDITIONAL TAX REVENUES FOR THE CITY OF BAYTOWN.
AND THAT WOULD, AND THAT, UM, WOULD HELP WITH LOCAL INFRASTRUCTURE STRUCTURE, UH, UH, PROJECTS AS WELL.
AND NOW I WOULD, I, I'D LIKE TO THANK YOU GUYS FOR YOUR TIME AND YOUR CONSIDERATION.
AND I'D LIKE TO HAND OVER TO, UH, MY ENGINEERS FROM LJ UH, MICHAEL ASH.
GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS AND EVERYONE.
I'M WITH LJ ENGINEERING, REPRESENTING LELAND IN THIS, UH, PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT SINGLE FAMILY SUBDIVISION.
JUST WANTED TO TALK TO YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE TRAFFIC STUDY.
JUST STATE SOME FACTS AND, UH, GIVE YOU A BASIC SUMMARY OF THE FINDINGS AND RECOMMENDATIONS.
UH, THE TRAFFIC STUDY WAS PERFORMED BY LKA ENGINEERING, AND IT WAS APPROVED OR SUBMITTED TO THE CITY OF BAYTOWN.
UH, AND IT WAS APPROVED BY THE CITY OF BAYTOWN ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT.
THE TRAFFIC STUDY INCLUDES, UH, THE CROSBY CEDAR BODY ROAD AND MASSEY TOMPKINS, UH, SIGNALIZE INTERSECTION, AND ALSO INCLUDES THE PROPOSED TWO DRIVEWAYS ON CROSBY, CEDAR BODY ROAD, UH, 24 HOUR TRAFFIC VOLUME DATA AND INTERSECTION MOVEMENT COUNTS, WHICH WE CALL TMCS.
WERE COLLECTED ON NOVEMBER 28TH, 2023, AND WERE USED TO DETERMINE THE PEAK HOUR TRAFFIC VOLUMES.
A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE FINDINGS.
UM, SO THE EXISTING NUMBER OF PEAK HOUR TRIPS IN THE AFTERNOON AND WHAT WE CALL PEAK HOUR TRIPS, THAT MEANS RUSH HOUR TRIPS.
UH, SO THE RUSH HOUR IN THE AFTERNOON, THE EXISTING NUMBER OF, OF, UH, TRIPS IS 849.
COMPARE THAT TO THE AFTERNOON PEAK HOUR, UM, THAT IS EXPECTED TO BE GENERATED BY THE, THIS DEVELOPMENT.
THAT'S ABOUT, UM, 3.5% INCREASE FROM THE EXISTING.
AND THEN WE HAVE, UH, EXISTING NUMBER OF DAILY VEHICLE TRIPS, THAT'S 7,209 ON, UH, CROSBY, CEDAR BAY ROAD.
AND THIS DEVELOPMENT WOULD BE ADDING APPROXIMATELY 302 DAILY VEHICLE TRIPS, WHICH REPRESENTS ABOUT 4% INCREASE TO THE EXISTING.
NOW A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE SIGNALIZE INTERSECTION IN CROSBY, CEDAR BODY ROAD AND MASSEY TOMPKINS.
THIS, UH, INTERSECTION WAS STUDIED.
UM, THE EXISTING LEVEL OF SERVICE OF THAT SIGNAL IS, UH, D WHICH, UH, JUST TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF REFERENCE, THERE ARE SEVERAL LEVELS OF SERVICE.
IT GOES FROM A TO F, A BEING THE, THE BEST, MOST IDEAL CONDITIONS, AND F BEING THE, THE, UH, WORST CONDITIONS.
UH, THIS IS CURRENTLY ON LEVEL OF SERVICE D WHICH IS NOT GREAT, BUT IT'S NOT A FAILED, UH, LEVEL OF SERVICE.
AND IF YOU CONSIDER THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT TRAFFIC, UH, BEING GENERATED BY THE PROPOSED, UM, YOU KNOW, SUBDIVISION, THE LEVEL OF SERVICE IS MAINTAINED AT D.
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UM, A LITTLE BIT MORE JUST, UM, FOR REFERENCE AS WELL, THE, WITH THE ADDITIONAL, THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT, YOU WOULD BE ADDING APPROXIMATELY 0.5 SECONDS OF DELAY IN THE MORNING, PEAK HOUR, AND 0.6 SECONDS OF DELAY IN THE AFTERNOON PEAK HOUR, WHICH MEANS BASICALLY FOR EVERY VEHICLE GOING THROUGH THAT INTERSECTION, IT'S HALF A SECOND MORE, UH, FOR EVERY VEHICLE.SO BASED ON THE DATA THAT WAS PRESENTED IN THE TRAFFIC STUDY AND APPROVED, THERE ARE NO MITIGATION MEASURES THAT ARE REQUIRED FOR THE SIGNAL SIGNALIZE INTERSECTION, NO MITIGATION FOR DRIVEWAY ONE AND DRIVEWAY TWO.
AND, UM, RIGHT TURN LANE AND LEFT TURN LANES ARE NOT WARRANTED FOR DRIVEWAYS ONE AND DRIVEWAY TWO, BECAUSE THERE WERE RIGHT TURN AND LEFT TURN LANE ANALYSES CONDUCTED.
AND THAT WAS THE FINDING AND RECOMMENDATION BY THE TRAFFIC STUDY.
SO, UM, JUST WANTED TO SEE IF YOU HAD ANY QUESTIONS, ANY CONCERNS THAT WE, WE CAN ANSWER AT THIS TIME.
ANY QUESTIONS? GO AHEAD, DONNA.
UM, MY, MY, I HAVE, UH, THREE QUESTIONS.
MY FIRST ONE IS THE LEVEL OF SERVICE BEING A, THE LEVEL OF SERVICE BEING A D, WHAT SERVICES ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? WHAT LEVELS OF, UH, SO FOR THE SIGNALIZE INTERSECTION, UM, JUST DEPENDING ON HOW LONG IT TAKES FOR THE VEHICLES TO, TO MAKE ITS WAY, MAKE THEIR WAY, UH, ACROSS THE INTERSECTION, IT BASED ON THE, THE DELAY THAT EVERY VEHICLE HAS, THERE'S A LEVEL OF SERVICE THAT'S ASSIGNED TO THAT DELAY.
AND SO LEVEL OF SERVICE A BEING THE BEST YOU WOULD EXPECT THE DELAY TO BE.
SO CURRENTLY IT'S A D CURRENTLY IT'S A D AND IT WOULD BE REMAIN A D WITH THE ADDITION OF THESE 32 LOTS? CORRECT.
AND, UM, THE TRAFFIC STUDY THAT YOU'RE REFERENCING IS THE ONE THAT YOU DID, WHICH IS DIFFERENT FROM THE ONE THE CITY HAD COMMISSIONED.
IS THAT CORRECT? I'M NOT AWARE OF A TRAFFIC STUDY BY THE COMMISSIONED.
IT'S, IT'S A TRAFFIC STUDY THAT LJ ENGINEERING PREPARED FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT.
IT'S THE SAME, IT WAS FOR ENGINEERING TO LOOK AT, TO LOOK AT THEIR, THE STUDY THAT YOU GUYS HAD COMMISSIONED.
THAT WE SUBMITTED TO THE CITY OF BAYTOWN ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT FOR REVIEW AND APPROVAL.
I DON'T KNOW IF THESE HOUSES ARE LIKE MINE, BUT IF THEY'RE 32 HOUSES, THEY'RE GONNA BE 64 CARS AT LEAST.
SO FOR THAT, UM, NOT ONE CAR PER HOUSE.
AND SO THERE'S A TRIP GENERATION, THERE'S A MANUAL THAT'S A TRIP GENERATION MANUAL 11TH EDITION.
UH, BASICALLY FOR EACH CATEGORY OF, UH, PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT OF STRUCTURE, THERE'S AN ASSIGNED, UM, NUMBER TO THAT.
AND THIS IS THE NUMBER THAT'S THE LATEST.
THAT'S, THAT'S THE, UM, RENOWNED, LIKE IT'S USED BY EVERYWHERE, EVERY TRAFFIC ENGINEER IN THE, IN THE COUNTRY.
UM, AND, AND SO THESE ARE THE NUMBERS THAT, THAT WERE ARRIVED AT, SAY, USING THOSE NUMBERS IN THE MANUAL.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I, I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.
SO I DID REVIEW THE TRAFFIC STUDY AND, UM, WOULD YOU MIND GOING BACK A COUPLE OF SLIDES SURE.
WHERE IT TALKED ABOUT THE THERE.
SO WHEN I, AND I'M NO TRAFFIC ENGINEER, BUT I'M JUST READING NUMBERS AND TIMES.
AND SO WHEN I LOOK AT FROM FOUR O'CLOCK TO SIX O'CLOCK NORTHBOUND AND SOUTHBOUND, I WOULD THINK WE'D ADD THOSE TWO TOGETHER TO SEE WHAT'S CROSSING IN FRONT.
AND WHEN I DID THE MATH ON THAT, THAT'S APPROXIMATELY ABOUT SEVEN CARS A MINUTE.
AND YOU ADD A DEVELOPMENT, AND I KIND AGREE WITH, IT'S GONNA MORE LIKELY BE ANOTHER 64 CARS AT LEAST.
AND THAT'S JUST THEM GOING TO WORK.
AND COMING HOME FROM WORK, NOT GOING TO THE GROCERY STORE AND COMING BACK FROM THE GROCERY STORE AND EVERYTHING ELSE IN BETWEEN, THAT SEEMS PRETTY BIG.
AND MY CONCERN IS THAT ROAD'S ONLY TWO LANES.
AND THEN I GUESS MY OTHER QUESTION OR QUESTION, SO ARE YOU REFERENCING THE, THIS TABLE, I GUESS, I DON'T KNOW IF I CAN SEE PAGE NUMBER 'CAUSE I'M LOOKING AT IT, BUT IT SAYS VOLUME, IT'S THE PAGE THAT DISCUSSES VOLUME.
SO THAT'S, THOSE ARE THE EXISTING NUMBERS.
AND THAT'S WHAT'S CONCERNING TO ME, EXISTING CONDITIONS, ME, IS THOSE
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EXISTING NUMBERS.AND THEN ADDING YOUR NUMBERS ON TOP OF IT.
UM, I, IT, IT MAKES ME CONCERNED THAT, THAT, THAT THAT ROAD ISN'T WIDE ENOUGH TO START BASED OFF OF WHAT'S ALREADY THERE.
UM, I, I DO PERSONALLY, I, I APPRECIATE THE DEVELOPMENT AND, AND WHAT THE TAX REVENUE WOULD BE, BUT SAFETY ALSO MATTERS.
AND WHEN YOU HAVE SEVEN CARS DRIVING PAST SOMEBODY'S DRIVEWAY A MINUTE DURING PEAK HOURS, THAT DOES CREATE SOME SAFETY CONCERN TO ME.
UM, DO Y'ALL HAVE ANY, ANYTHING THAT YOU'RE PROPOSING THAT WOULD, I MEAN, REALLY HELP ALLEVIATE, THAT'S, THAT'S A BIG SAFETY CONCERN.
SO NO MITIGATION THAT WOULD BE WARRANTED BY THIS DEVELOPMENT.
NOW, EXISTING CONDITIONS ARE NOT THE IDEAL CONDITIONS.
AND YES, THAT'S TRAFFIC SIGNAL CAN, AS, AS I MENTIONED, IT'S LEVEL OF SERVICE D SO IT CAN, UH, GET SOME IMPROVEMENT.
IT CAN DEFINITELY BE IMPROVED.
UM, BUT UNFORTUNATELY IT'S NOT WARRANTED BY, BY THIS DEVELOPMENT.
LIKE THE LEVEL OF SERVICE IS NOT, UM, IS NOT IMPACTED BY THIS DEVELOPMENT.
AND, UM, NOW YOU MAY BE ABLE TO SPEAK TO THIS, JUST OUT OF CLARIFICATION.
WE DO NOT HAVE, AND I BELIEVE THIS WAS DISCUSSED OUR LAST MEETING, THERE IS NO CURRENT PLAN TO WIDEN THAT ROAD.
CORRECT? I THINK OUR ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT SHOULD ANSWER THAT QUESTION.
WELL, SO BEFORE THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT, I JUST HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION FOR YOU.
AND, UM, NOVEMBER 28TH, RIGHT? THAT'S WHEN IT WAS.
SO IS THERE A REASON, I GUESS, WHY THAT DATE MIGHT'VE BEEN CHOSEN? AND MY QUESTION TO THAT IS BECAUSE THAT'S THE TUESDAY AFTER THANKSGIVING, AND I ALSO THINK THAT THE TRAFFIC MIGHT BE A LITTLE BIT LOWER 'CAUSE PEOPLE ARE ON VACATION DURING THAT TIME.
IT'S A TUESDAY, THERE'S LESS, I MEAN, STATISTICALLY THERE'S MORE TRAFFIC VOLUME ON MONDAYS AND FRIDAYS.
IT, THERE WASN'T A SPECIFIC REASON.
UM, I TYPICALLY, WHEN I TAKE VACATIONS FOR THANKSGIVING, I WOULD COME BACK EITHER THE SUNDAY OR THE MONDAY.
UM, BUT REALLY IT'S JUST THE TIMING OF WHEN THE TRAFFIC STUDY WAS, WAS AUTHORIZED BY THE DEVELOPER.
WHEN WE HAD OUR MEETING WITH THE CITY ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT TO DISCUSS THE SCOPE OF WORK.
THERE WAS NO PARTICULAR REASON FOR, FOR THAT OTHER THAN JUST THE TIMING OF IT.
MAY I ADD ONTO SOMETHING KIM SAID, PLEASE.
UM, IT, I UNDERSTAND THAT THE STUDY SAID IT WASN'T WARRANTED, BUT OUT OF CONSIDERATION FOR THE COMMUNITY AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD, WOULD YOU CONSIDER PUTTING THE TURN LANES IN AND OUT OF YOUR COMMUNITY, UM, TO GET OFF THE, THE, THE CARS OFF THE ROAD AND ALLOW AS MUCH INGRESS AND EGRESS AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE THEN? JUST BECAUSE HAVE YOU DRIVEN UP AND DOWN? I HAVE, YEAH.
AND THE DEVELOP ON A REGULAR BASIS, GOING TO THE PARK, I, I DID ONCE AND HE DID TWICE.
UH, JUST GOING THROUGH RUSH HOUR AND LOOKING AT THE EXISTING CONDITIONS.
AND THAT WOULD, THAT, THAT'S JUST A QUESTION THAT I HAVE.
WOULD YOU CONSIDER THE TWO? WELL, UH, IT WOULD MAKE HIS DEVELOPMENT UNFEASIBLE.
LIKE HE'S ALREADY AT THE MAXIMUM.
AND SO EIGHT FEET, UH, TO 12 TO FIVE TO MAYBE 12 FEET IN OFF THE SIDEWALK FOR A TURN LANE.
IF, IF I'M, ENGINEERS COULD TELL ME A LITTLE BETTER HOW MANY FEET THAT IS.
UM, AND I, IF THAT WOULD MAKE IT INFEASIBLE MY APOLOGY.
BUT I, I'M TRYING TO FIND A HELP, FIND A SOLUTION.
THERE'S A SECOND PART TO THAT TOO.
THAT ROAD BEING SO NARROW, UH, BUSES ALREADY DON'T GO INTO THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS WHERE THEY CAN'T MAKE A TURNAROUND.
AND THIS NEIGHBORHOOD WOULD NOT ALLOW A SCHOOL BUS TO MAKE A TURNAROUND.
SO THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO STOP ON THE SIDE OF CEDAR BIO CROSBY ROAD TO PICK UP CHILDREN AND TO LET CHILDREN OUT, WHICH IS TWO LANE VERY NARROW.
IT'S GONNA STOP TRAFFIC RIGHT THERE, COMPLETELY STOP TRAFFIC FOR TWO DIFFERENT SETS OF BUSES SEVERAL TIMES A DAY.
AND NOT JUST A COUPLE OF TIMES, BUT SEVERAL TIMES.
'CAUSE THE DIFFERENT SCHOOLS LET OUT AT DIFFERENT TIMES, RIGHT? NO, WE, WE UNDERSTAND THOSE CONCERNS.
LIKE THIS DEVELOPMENT IS, IS JUST ADDING VERY LITTLE TO THE EXISTING, UH, CONDITIONS.
AND, AND WE KNOW THAT WE WANNA SOLVE THAT, THAT EXISTING ISSUE.
UM, AND, BUT IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S SHOULDN'T BE THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE DEVELOPER THAT, LIKE HE, THE DEVELOPMENT, UM, ONCE IT'S, YOU KNOW, UP AND, AND READY AND HE'S ABLE TO SELL THE LOTS, THOSE LOTS WILL RAISE A LOT OF TAX REVENUE THAT
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COULD SUPPORT SUCH A, UH, INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS PROJECT.UH, SO THAT'S, THAT, THAT'S WHERE, BUT, BUT, UH, JUAN CAN CAN TALK MORE ABOUT THAT.
WHEN IT'S PUBLIC TIME, WE WILL HAVE A PUBLIC SPEAKING OPPORTUNITY HERE IN A MINUTE.
UH, UH, MY NAME IS JUAN MACIAS.
I'M WITH THE PUBLIC WORKS AND ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT, AND I'M THE CITY ENGINEER.
UH, ONE OF YOUR QUESTIONS WAS WITH REGARDS TO CROSS CITY IOWA, WHAT KIND OF PLANS ARE IN THE WORKS? UM, AS A RESULT OF THE STUDY? SINCE THE EXISTING LEVEL OF SERVICE, IT'S A LEVEL OF SERVICE D UM, WE ARE GONNA DRAFT A NEW CIP PROJECT FOR THE INTERSECTION.
THE ACTUAL WIDENING OF THE ROAD'S GONNA BE EVALUATED.
UM, TYPICALLY WHEN THERE'S NOT A CHANGE OF LEVEL OF SERVICE BY THE DEVELOPER.
UM, AND USUALLY THERE HAS NOT BEEN THE REQUEST FOR THEM TO MAKE THOSE IMPROVEMENTS.
UM, IT'S USUALLY WHENEVER THERE IS A, LET'S SAY A CHANGE FROM, WE HAVE HAD OTHER DEVELOPMENTS WHERE THERE'S A LEVEL OF SERVICE, A, B, C, D, AND THEY GO TO AN F, IN WHICH CASE WE DO ASK 'EM, HEY, YOU HAVE TO MITIGATE IT TO KEEP IT AT THE SAME LEVEL.
UM, SO I WAS GONNA MENTION THAT.
UM, BUT, AND, UH, I THINK THE OTHER FOLLOW UP QUESTION, YOU WERE ASKING ABOUT THE WIDTH OF THE LANE, TYPICALLY IT'S 12 FEET, UM, THAT'S BEEN DONE.
UM, IF THERE IS A DECELERATION LANE, IT'S BASED ON THE, UH, SPEED OF THE ROAD, HOW MUCH TRAFFIC.
UM, WHEN WE LOOKED AT THE STUDY, IT DIDN'T LOOK LIKE IT, IT WAS WARRANTED JUST BASED ON TYPICAL ENGINEERING STANDARDS.
UM, BUT IT IS SOMETHING THAT, UH, CAN BE PROPOSED.
UM, JUST FROM THE, LOOKING AT THE SITE.
I KNOW ONE OF THE THINGS THAT IF THEY WERE TO COME IN AND PROPOSE A DECELERATION LANE ON THE APPROACHING FROM THE NORTH, SINCE IT DOES BELONG TO SOMEBODY ELSE, THERE'LL BE ISSUES WITH THAT.
ONE COULD BE DONE FROM THE SOUTH.
IT'LL PROBABLY BE EASIER MAYBE FOR THE SOUTH DRIVEWAY.
UM, IT'S JUST SOME OF THE OBSERVATIONS.
IF Y'ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'LL BE GLAD TO ANSWER.
UM, AND I DON'T KNOW IF, IF YOU'RE THE PERSON TO ANSWER IT, BUT, UM, FIRST OF ALL, HOW DID IT GET TO A D AND, AND I KNOW THAT THESE GENTLEMEN ARE TRYING TO DEVELOP THEIR, THEIR AREAS, BUT WHEN YOU BUILD SOMETHING ON SEVEN, I CAN, WHEN YOU'RE BUILDING, FOR EXAMPLE, A SCHOOL, THE SCHOOL DISTRICT'S REQUIRED TO BUILD TURNING LANES AND STUFF MM-HMM
TO BE ABLE TO, TO HELP WITH THAT ISSUE.
AND WELL, HERE'S A A SEVEN, ALMOST EIGHT ACRE PIECE OF LAND WITH 32 HOUSES COMING IN.
WE'RE NOT REQUIRING THEM TO DO ANYTHING OF THAT MATTER WHERE, AND THE STREET THAT'S SUPER NARROW MM-HMM
AND IS LE IS LABELED AS A D, WHICH IS NOT THEIR FAULT.
THAT'S, THAT'S SOME POINT THE CITY HAS TO UNDERSTAND WHICH WEIGHT GROWTH IS COMING.
AND, YOU KNOW, WE TALKED ABOUT LAST TIME HOW WE'VE PUT A LOT OF CONCENTRATION ON GUARD ROAD.
WELL, THESE ARE ARTERIES THAT MATTER.
AND I GUESS THE OTHER PART IS THERE'S A RECOMMENDATION FROM CITY OF BAYTOWN TO APPROVE THIS FROM THE STAFF TO APPROVE THIS ON A, ON A SIGNAL IN A, IN AN INTERSECTION THAT'S LABELED A D.
YOU KNOW, I, I DON'T UNDERSTAND.
AND LIKE I SAID, YOU MIGHT NOT BE THE PERSON TO ANSWER THIS, I DON'T KNOW, BUT I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW THOSE THINGS ARE APPROVED WHEN WE ALREADY HAVE OBVIOUSLY AN ISSUE THAT THAT PUTS IT, I MEAN, I KNOW IT'S NOT AN F MM-HMM
BUT WE'RE GOING FROM A, WE'RE AT A D, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, I'M A TEACHER.
D'S NOT TOO FAR FROM AN F, IT'S THE NEXT LEVEL, MR. AND I'M AFRAID THAT NOW WE'RE GONNA BE AT A D MINUS, YOU KNOW, UM, IT'S GETTING, CUTTING CLOSE.
I, I'M JUST, I'M JUST THINKING THAT AS DEVELOPMENT CONTINUES, 'CAUSE WE'VE SEEN IT THE LAST FEW YEARS, HOW MUCH DEVELOPMENT HAS COME INTO THE CITY OF BAYTOWN AND MORE AND MORES COMING BECAUSE THE LANDS STARTING TO RUN OUT.
SO THEY'RE FINDING EVERY CORNER THEY CAN AND WE'RE APPROVING THEM WITHOUT, REALLY, I FEEL THAT THIS LOOKS, I'M LOOKING FROM THE WINDOW, LOOKING IN, IT LOOKS LIKE WE'RE NOT CONSIDERING THE, THE VOLUME AND THE LEVEL OF, OF, OF QUALITY THAT THE INTER, THAT INTERSECTION'S OFFERED.
MR. UH, COMMISSIONER AND MR. CHAIRMAN, IF I MAY, JUAN, REAL QUICK, IF, IF I'M NOT CORRECT, THIS D IS NOT REPRESENTATIVE OF A SCORE, IT'S BASED ON VOLUME OF I'M CORRECT.
SO I THINK THAT'S JUST A CONNOTATION THAT WE GET FROM THIS.
BUT IN GENERAL, THESE THINGS LIKE TRAFFIC STUDIES AND, AND THINGS OF THIS NATURE, OUR INDUSTRY STANDARDS ARE BENCHMARKS FOR DEVELOPMENT.
UH, AND THEY REALLY HELP GUIDE THE CITY IN BEING CONSISTENT AND FAIR AND OBJECTIVE TO NEW DEVELOPMENT.
AND GIVES US SOMETIMES, YOU KNOW, KNOW AMMUNITION THAT WE CAN USE, UM, TO ADVOCATE FOR CERTAIN IMPROVEMENTS.
BUT THAT BEING SAID, WE HAVE TO TREAT THAT WITH RESPECT AND RECOGNIZE THAT BASED ON THESE INDUSTRY STANDARDS AND PROFESSIONAL STANDARDS, THAT THIS STUDY IS NOT RECOMMENDING ANY IMPROVEMENTS AT THIS TIME.
UM, I MEAN, IN, IN DEVELOPMENT WE TALK ABOUT ROUGH PROPORTIONALITY,
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YOU KNOW, THE IDEA THAT WHAT CITIES CAN REQUIRE OF DEVELOPMENT IN THE GRAND SCHEME OF THINGS.UM, I WOULDN'T BE FAIR TO ASSESS THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ON THIS DEVELOPMENT.
NOT TO MENTION WE CAN'T ASSESS CONDITIONS BECAUSE OF THIS TYPE OF ZONING REQUEST.
THIS IS JUST A STRAIGHT REZONING REQUEST FROM ONE DISTRICT TO ANOTHER.
THIS IS NOT A SUP, THIS IS NOT A PUD.
SO THOSE THINGS AREN'T ON THE TABLE RIGHT NOW.
SO I JUST WANNA GIVE YOU KIND OF A FRAMEWORK FOR, YOU KNOW, WHAT STAFF EVALUATES WHEN WE LOOK AT THESE TYPES OF REQUESTS AND HOW THAT SHAPES THE RECOMMENDATION TO Y'ALL.
SO THIS ISN'T IN A VACUUM, THIS ISN'T JUST LAISSEZ FAIR.
THIS IS REAL WORK AND ANALYSIS THAT WENT, WENT INTO THESE.
AND, UM, YOU KNOW, WE HOPE THAT THE, THE COMMISSION TAKES IT INTO CONSIDERATION.
ANY MORE QUESTIONS FOR ENGINEERING FROM THE COMMISSIONERS? I HAVE A KINDERGARTEN QUESTION.
SO, AS BAYTOWN GROWS, WHICH IT IS, AND THIS IS A GREAT EXAMPLE, HOW DOES THAT WORK FOR YOU GUYS ON, OKAY, NOW IT'S GROWING AND WE HAVE MORE TAX DOLLARS COMING INTO THIS VERY SPECIFIC NEIGHBORHOOD.
WHEN DO YOU GUYS REEVALUATE AND SAY, OKAY, WE HAVE ENOUGH REVENUE ON THIS ROAD.
LIKE, IS THERE AN ALGORITHM? LIKE HOW DOES THAT WORK? WE USUALLY USE A COMBINATION OF, UH, STAFF OBSERVATIONS ALONG WITH, UH, LET'S SAY ANY, UH, COMMENTS, COMPLAINTS THAT WE RECEIVE FOR RESIDENTS.
WE'LL ALSO USE STUDIES, UH, SOME OF THE TIME EVEN FOR THEM TO BE ABLE TO JUSTIFY THAT THERE IS NO IMPACT.
THEY HAVE TO PROVIDE A STUDY LIKE THIS.
UM, THIS IS ONE OF THOSE WHERE THEY PROVIDED THIS STUDY AND IT SAID, HEY, WE, WE HAD NOT NECESSARILY RECEIVED THE AMOUNT OF COMPLAINTS AT OTHER INTERSECTIONS, BUT THE, THE STUDY SAID, HEY, YOU'RE NOT AT A LEVEL F, BUT WE NEED TO START DOING SOMETHING.
THAT'S WHY WE'RE PLANNING ON ADDING IT TO THE CIP SO THAT IT, IT CAN BE SCHEDULED TO BE WORKED ON.
SO, JUST SO I'M CLEAR, IT HAS TO GET TO AN F BEFORE IT GETS IN? NO, WE, IN THE FIXED BUCKET, UH, ONE OR TWO WAYS.
WE'LL, EITHER WE SEE THAT GROWTH IS COMING TO WHERE WE CAN PREVENT IT, OR THERE ARE TIMES AS IT'S GOING DOWN THE SCALE THAT WE SAY, HEY, IT'S AT A CERTAIN LEVEL THAT IT NEEDS TO BE WORKED ON.
UH, TYPICALLY A, B AND C USUALLY, UM, THERE OTHER INTERSECTIONS THAT REQUIRE MORE OF THAT WORK, UM, WE, IT'LL BE A COMBINATION.
SO WE'LL END UP PROPOSING A, HERE AGO, A NEW CIP PROJECT, THEN AT SOME POINT IT'S PRESENTED AND THE DECISIONS ARE MADE.
HEY, WE WANNA WORK ON THIS, THIS, AND THIS INTERSECTION BASED ON THE AVAILABLE FUNDING.
SO WE HAVE THE COMPLAINTS, THE COMMUNITY'S HERE TWICE COMPLAINING.
WE HAVE A D UH, WE WANT, WE WANT HOUSING, WE NEED AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN BAYTOWN.
UM, SO DOES THIS MEAN IT IS IN THE BUCKET OF THINGS THAT WE ARE NOW GOING TO FOCUS ON AND FIX? 'CAUSE I THINK THE COMMUNITY WOULD FEEL A HECK OF A LOT BETTER IF THEY KNEW YOUR DEPARTMENT WAS LIKE, YOU KNOW, THIS ISN'T THE TOP 10.
UM, I DON'T HAVE THE EXACT LIST WHERE I CAN TELL YOU WHERE IT WOULD FALL THERE.
UM, BUT IT IS DEFINITELY IN OUR RADAR.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONERS? THANK YOU.
AT THIS TIME, WE'LL, UH, HAVE THE, UH, CITIZENS, UH, WHO SIGNED UP COME UP AND SPEAK.
UM, PLEASE NOTE THERE IS A THREE MINUTE SPEAKING TIME LIMIT.
AND THE, UH, FIRST PERSON THAT WE HAVE ON THE LIST HERE IS LELAND SMITH SPOKE, OH, UH, MICHAEL FARAGE.
GOOD AFTERNOON COMMISSION, UM, TAKE OUT GOOD.
MOST OF MY QUESTIONS HAVE ALREADY BEEN ANSWERED, AND THAT'S A GOOD THING.
UM, I HOPE EACH OF YOU THAT WANTED TO TOOK A LOOK AT THE PETITION THAT WAS SUBMITTED LAST MONTH.
THERE WERE 89 SIGNATURES AND THERE WERE 58 HOMES, VISITED
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EDDIE CAPS AND MYSELF BOTH SHARE THAT WORK.UM, PAGE 15, WHICH IS WHAT WE SEE ON THE MONITOR NOW, MY CONCERN WAS THE 24 HOUR TOTALS.
YOU SEE HERE, THE UPPER SECTION 7,209 VEHICLE TRIPS.
WE'VE ALREADY, YOU'VE ALREADY DISCUSSED THIS.
I WAS TAKEN ABACK AND NOW UNDERSTANDING THIS IS VEHICLE TRIPS.
IT'S BEEN VERIFIED BY THE ENGINEERS.
THAT'S A MASSIVE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC.
THE REASON I KNOW THIS, I, I'VE BEEN ON HARDIN ROAD 26, 11 HARDIN ROAD FOR 27 AND A HALF YEARS.
I LIVE THIS, I SEE THIS DAY IN AND DAY OUT.
AND CROSBY, CEDAR ROAD, CEDAR BALL ROAD IS BRUTAL.
UM, AFTER LAST MONTH'S MEETING, THERE WERE A LOT OF DISCUSSION ABOUT TRAFFIC STUDIES.
SO I WENT HOME, I SUBMITTED A TRAFFIC STUDY TO THE CITY OF BAYTOWN.
'CAUSE I'M SOMEWHAT FAMILIAR WITH 'EM BECAUSE HARDIN ROAD HAS BEEN STUDIED.
AND SO I SUBMITTED THAT AND I NEVER HEARD ANYTHING ELSE.
I DON'T KNOW WHETHER IT GOT LOST IN THE SHUFFLE.
BUT ONE THING THAT THE CITY OF BAYTOWN DOES IS THEY LOOK AT SPEEDS.
AND WE KNOW THAT WE, MOST OF US SPEED AT SOME TIME OR ANOTHER.
SO ANYWAY, UM, THE, ONE OF THE MAIN PROBLEMS I HAVE IS WITH THESE EMERGENCY VEHICLES, EMERGENCY VEHICLES AND BUSES WILL HAVE A VERY DIFFICULT TIME DRIVING INTO THIS NEIGHBORHOOD.
YOU CAN'T EVEN, I MEAN, IMAGINE VEHICLES PARKED ON EACH SIDE OF THE ROAD, WHICH WE SEE AS A COMMON FACTOR.
UH, AND SO I SEE THIS AS BAYTOWN NOT PROMOTING SAFETY.
THERE IS A BIG SAFETY FACTOR HERE.
UM, I ASK THIS COMMISSION TO REJECT THE REZONING OF THIS 7.1 ACRES.
UH, NEXT IS DONNIE HARRINGTON.
TRANSFER MY TIME TO MR. GGO, WHAT HE ADD.
I LIVE AT 39 15 CROSBY BALL ROAD.
I'M A HUNDRED YARDS FROM THIS PROPERTY RIGHT NOW, WEST SIDE OF THE ROAD.
I SEE THE TRAFFIC IN FRONT OF MY HOUSE SIX OR SEVEN TIMES A DAY, BACKED UP.
THERE'S ABSOLUTELY NO SAFE WAY TO GET OUT OF MY DRIVEWAY.
I'M GONNA GIVE YOU ONE INSTANCE THAT HAD HAPPENED THIS PAST FRIDAY.
MY DAUGHTER CAME OVER AND BROUGHT OUR LITTLE GRAND, GREAT GRANDSON, GOT TO SEE HIM, AND THEN THE MOTHER, MY GRANDDAUGHTER CAME AND PARKED BEHIND MY, MY DAUGHTER'S CAR IN THE DRIVEWAY THERE TO PICK UP THE, UH, UH, PACKAGE AND THEN LEAVE.
BUT AS SHE WAS GOING TO LEAVE, THE TRAFFIC WAS ALREADY BACKED UP FROM MY HOUSE AND BACKED PAST THIS PROPERTY THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT RIGHT NOW.
NO WAY, UNLESS SOMEBODY LETS YOU IN.
WELL, NORMALLY I TELL 'EM DON'T TRY TO BACK OUT OF THIS DRIVEWAY EVER.
BUT SHE DECIDED SHE COULD TRY TO BACK OUT A, A CAR, LET HER IN ON THE, ON THE SOUTHBOUND SIDE.
BUT THE TRAFFIC COMING ON THE NORTHBOUND SIDE, ZIPPING THROUGH THERE, ALMOST CLIPPED HER.
SHE PULLED UP AND PULLED ON IN, UH, THROUGH THE, THROUGH THE YARD AND WENT OUT THE OTHER DRIVEWAY.
THANK GOD, BECAUSE IT WOULD'VE BEEN TERRIBLE.
BUT THIS IS WHAT WE SEE EVERY DAY.
20 TO 25 BUSES FOUR TIMES A DAY.
WHEN I LEFT TO COME TO THIS MEETING RIGHT NOW, IT TOOK ME THREE TIMES FROM MY HOUSE, THE DRIVEWAY FROM MY HOUSE TO THE RED LIGHT TO GET THROUGH IT.
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ARE SLOW GOING THROUGH THE INTERSECTION, BUT IT TOOK ME, TH THE TRAFFIC LIGHT HAD TO CHANGE THREE TIMES BEFORE I WAS ABLE TO COME ON THROUGH.BUT THAT HAPPENS ALL THE TIME.
BUT I JUST, I, I KNOW Y'ALL ARE CONSIDERING WHAT'S BEST.
UH, THE THING I'M WORRIED ABOUT IS, IS THE SAFETY SITUATION, THE TRAFFIC.
THE ONLY OTHER THING IS IF THEY WANNA BUILD 32 HOUSES OUT THERE, THERE'S A BIG PASTURE BEHIND.
THEY CAN MAKE A TWO-LANE ROAD ALL THE WAY BACK OUT TO, TO, UH, SHOW, UH, MASSEY TOMPKINS.
IF THEY WANTED TO GO OUTTA THE BACK OF THAT THING, THAT WOULD HELP A WHOLE LOT.
UH, MY SUGGESTION IS, UH, JUST BUILD A COUPLE OF NICE HOUSES OUT THERE AND, UH, LET IT GO AT THAT.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.
I ALSO LIVE ON HARDIN ROAD AND HAVE BEEN THERE FOR SINCE 2006.
UH, THE CONTINUED GROWTH OUT SHO BRINGS MORE TRAFFIC IN THERE EVERY DAY.
THIS WASN'T INCLUDED IN YOUR TRAFFIC SURVEY 'CAUSE IT'S ALREADY THERE.
WHEN, UH, THE COUNTY REPAVED CROSBY, CEDAR BIO, ALL OF THAT TRAFFIC CUT THROUGH HARDIN ROAD, IT TOOK US FIVE YEARS TO GET A TRAFFIC STUDY.
PEOPLE AVERAGING 40 TO 60 MILES AN HOUR DOWN HARDEN ROAD TO GET 'EM TO PUT SPEED HUMPS IN THERE.
YOU'RE GOING TO BRING MORE TRAFFIC INTO HARDEN ROAD BECAUSE OF THIS.
AND THREE TIMES TO GET TO THE RED LIGHT IS MINIMAL FROM FOUR 30 TILL ABOUT SIX 30 WHEN THAT, WHEN SHELL OR, UH, CHEVRON HAS A TURNAROUND GOING ON.
THERE'S TWICE AS MUCH TRAFFIC AS THERE IS NORMALLY.
AND IT'S, IT'S NOT SCHEDULED BY ANY MONTH OR DAY OR YEAR.
WHEN THEY CAN DO THE TURNAROUND, YOU DOUBLE THE TRAFFIC ON THAT ROAD.
THE SCHOOL BUSES HAVE ANOTHER OPTION.
THEY CAN GO TO NORTH MAINE AND DRIVE DOWN A FOUR LANE STREET TO TO MASSEY TOMPKINS.
THEY ALL COME FROM EITHER NORTH OR SOUTH OF MASSEY TOMPKINS TO GET ON CROSBY CEDAR BIO TO GO OUT TO THE BUS BARN THAT WAS BUILT OUT THERE WITHOUT A WHOLE LOT UP.
IT'S AN INFRASTRUCTURE ISSUE BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO DIG A RETI, A RETENTION POND.
WHAT ABOUT THE TWO STOPPING ROBS THAT'S ALREADY BEEN APPROVED ON THE CORNER OF MASSEY TOMPKINS.
THEY'RE DOING THE DIRT WORK ON THEM NOW.
MORE TRAFFIC, MORE REASON FOR TRAFFIC TO BE DELAYED.
AND, UH, YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT THAT ROAD BACK THERE NOW ONE OF THEM LIVE IN THIS CITY, THEY DON'T DRIVE THAT STREET EVERY DAY.
NONE OF Y'ALL DRIVE THAT STREET EVERY DAY.
ALL OF THIS GROUP OVER HERE DRIVES THAT STREET EVERY DAY.
MOST OF US HAVE TO GO DOWN HARDEN AND COME OUT ON MASSEY TOMPKINS BECAUSE OF THE TRAFFIC ON IT.
SO I KNOW THAT BUNCH WASN'T INCLUDED IN HIS SURVEY, AND I KNOW THE NORMAL CUT THROUGHS WASN'T INCLUDED IN THE SURVEY.
THERE'S A LOT OF ISSUES HERE BESIDES THE SUBDIVISION.
THEY'RE GONNA MAKE THEIR MONEY AND THEY'RE GONE.
Y'ALL ARE GOING TO GET YOUR MONEY, BUT WE GOTTA LIVE WITH YOU GETTING YOUR MONEY.
HOW MANY OF YOU WOULD LIKE TO BUY A HOUSE ON HARDIN ROAD AND PUT UP WITH THAT EVERY DAY? LOOK AT IT FROM OUR STANDPOINT, IT, IT'S BAD ENOUGH AS IT IS.
IF THERE WAS A FOUR-LANE ROAD THERE, NONE OF US WOULD BE UP HERE.
BUILD THE FOUR LANE ROAD AND PUT YOUR SUBDIVISION IN.
BUILD THE INFRASTRUCTURE TO SUPPORT.
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EVERY HOUSE IS A FOUR BEDROOM IS GOING TO HAVE A HUSBAND AND A WIFE CAR, AND TWO OR THREE KID CARS.NOW HOW DOES THAT ADD UP TO 30? THAT'S PROBABLY FOUR OR FIVE TIMES MORE THAN THAT.
WHEN YOU START ADDING THE KIDS IN, HAVING CARS GOING TO SCHOOL AND BACK AND FORTH ON THAT STREET, THAT'S THE ONLY WAY THEY CAN GO.
THEY'VE GOTTA COME OUT, THEY'VE GOTTA COME ON CROSBY RECEIVER BOTTOM.
UH, THE ROAD TO GO AROUND WOULD BE A NICE DEAL.
BUT I KNOW THEY'RE NOT GONNA SPEND THEIR MONEY TO DO THAT.
THEY'RE GOING TO GET THEIR MONEY AND THEY'RE GOING TO LEAVE.
THEY DON'T CARE WHAT WE GOTTA LIVE WITH.
Y'ALL NEED TO CARE WHAT WE LIVE WITH.
I'M SORRY, BUT NOW'S NOT THE TIME TO DO THAT.
IT'S NOT A CONVENIENT SITUATION FOR ANYBODY EXCEPT FOR THE TAX REVENUE.
AND I KNOW THAT'S WHAT Y'ALL ARE LOOKING AT.
THERE'S MORE TO THIS THAN TO TAX REVENUE.
WE NEED TO LOOK AT THE PEOPLE EFFECT.
IF YOU REALLY WANT TO FIND OUT, DRIVE THAT ROAD EVERY DAY FOR A MONTH FROM FOUR 30 TO FIVE 30 OR SEVEN O'CLOCK TO ABOUT EIGHT, NINE O'CLOCK, THAT'S WHEN THE BUSES GO AND COME.
AND THERE'S ABOUT 30 OF THEM THAT ARE IN AND OUTTA THAT ROAD EVERY DAY.
THEY GO TO THE BUS BARN AND THEY COME BACK FROM THE BUS BARN.
THAT'S FOUR TRIPS FOR THOSE BUSES EVERY DAY ON THAT ROAD.
AND THE BUS DRIVERS, SOME OF 'EM ARE VERY GOOD DRIVERS.
SOME OF 'EM ARE NOT REAL GOOD DRIVERS.
AND, AND THE MORE TRAFFIC THAT GETS THERE, THE MORE ROAD RAGES YOU'RE GOING TO SEE.
AND THAT'S AN ISSUE WE HADN'T TALKED ABOUT THAT SHOULD BE DISCUSSED, ESPECIALLY ON THAT PARTICULAR ROAD BECAUSE THEY'RE ALREADY KILLING EACH OTHER OUT THERE ON THE FREEWAY BECAUSE SOMEBODY DIDN'T LIKE THE WAY THEY WERE DRIVING.
IT'S JUST A MATTER OF TIME FOR IT HAPPENS THERE.
SO WE HAVE NO ONE ELSE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK.
MR. GELLIN, YOU GAVE YOUR TIME.
SO AT THIS TIME WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
BEFORE WE VOTE, I HAVE ANOTHER COMMENT TO MAKE.
UH, THIS IS, THIS IS ONE OF THOSE ISSUES THAT AS A COMMUNITY WE'RE NOT ADDRESSING.
AND THAT IS WHAT THE DEVELOPMENTS LOOK LIKE IN OUR COMMUNITY.
WHEN WE BUILD HOUSES RIGHT UP TO A MAIN THOROUGHFARE, UH, WHERE THERE'S NO SPACE BETWEEN THAT HOUSE AND OUTSIDE, THEN WE'RE LOOKING AT PEOPLE PARKED ALONG THERE BRINGING THEIR KIDS BECAUSE THEY CAN'T, IF IT'S RAINING, THEY CAN'T HAVE THEIR KIDS WALK INTO IT.
AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE THAT ISSUE OF STREETS NOT BEING WIDE ENOUGH, NOT ALLOWING FOR TURNAROUNDS FOR MAJOR VEHICLES, INCLUDING FIRE FIRETRUCKS.
I'LL ADD BECAUSE I'M IN A CUL-DE-SAC.
AND THE FIRETRUCK WILL NOT COME INTO OUR CUL-DE-SAC.
SO THOSE ARE THINGS THAT WE ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR AS A COMMUNITY AND AS A, AS A CITY.
AND WE'RE NOT ADDRESSING THOSE ISSUES.
WE'RE ALLOWING MORE AND MORE OF THESE SUBDIVISIONS TO DEVELOP, UH, IN INAPPROPRIATE AMOUNTS OF SPACE.
UH, HE TALKED ABOUT 4.5 PER ACRE.
THAT'S NOT AFTER YOU ADD ALL OF THE WATER RETENTION AND YOU ADD THE STREETS AND ROADS, IT IS THAT MANY HOUSES PER ACRE.
YOU GOTTA TAKE A BUNCH OF THAT ACREAGE OUT FOR RETENTION AND FOR STREETS AND ROADS AND SIDEWALKS.
SO WE ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT.
THAT'S SOMETHING WE NEED TO LOOK AT AS A COMMUNITY, UH, AND ADDRESS ON A REGULAR BASIS.
WE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT HOW MANY VEHICLES ARE EACH HOME.
HOW MANY OF YOU LIVE IN NEIGHBORHOODS WHERE YOU HAVE TO ZIGZAG AROUND TO GET TO YOUR HOUSE? THERE'S A LOT OF THEM.
PEOPLE DON'T USE THEIR GARAGES ANYMORE.
WE DON'T HAVE WIDE ENOUGH FRONTAGE.
WE'VE GOT TO MAKE SOME CHANGES IN WHAT THE REQUIREMENTS ARE IN BUILDING SUBDIVISIONS IN THIS COMMUNITY.
AND TO ALLOW ONE MORE, LIKE WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT TODAY IS JUST WRONG FOR US.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS ON THE COMMISSIONERS? I WILL SAY I DID HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH EMERGENCY SERVICES ABOUT THIS PROJECT
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AND, UH, THEY WERE IN AGREEANCE THAT IT IS A NIGHTMARE FOR THEM TO WORK THAT AREA.SO I DO WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT WE HAVE DONE OUR HOMEWORK AND WE DO HEAR YOU AND I LIKE DEVELOPMENT.
THIS IS, THERE'S NOT ENOUGH ROOM AND YOU'RE NOT, DON'T EVEN WANT TO EVEN GIVE A LITTLE TO EVEN CONSIDER PUTTING TURN LANES IN TO HELP THE COMMUNITY IN THE AREA BECAUSE IT'S NOT WARRANTED.
SO, ARE WE READY? THANK YOU, DONNA.
ANYONE ELSE? ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS? OKAY.
UH, AT THIS TIME WE'LL HAVE A MOTION TO VOTE.
UH, COMMISSIONERS, ALL THOSE WHO APPROVE MOTION NEEDS TO MAKE A MOTION.
OH, SOMEONE NEEDS TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE.
BUT I, I HAVE A, I HAVE A LEGAL QUESTION.
SO CAN WE DENY THIS? AND THEN WHEN IT GOES TO CITY COUNCIL ALSO SUGGEST THAT WE REALLY RECOMMEND THAT THEY LOOK AT THIS STREET AND MAKE IT A PRIORITY SO THAT FUTURE DOWN THE ROAD DEVELOPMENT CAN COME IN.
SO BASED ON YOUR ACTIONS, YOU KNOW, THAT WILL BE PART OF THE RECOMMENDATION.
THE VOTING RECORD PART OF THAT, UH, THE BACKGROUND PORTION OF THE STAFF REPORT WILL INCLUDE, UM, THE SENTIMENTS OF THE COMMISSION AND THE LOGIC BEHIND THE CONCLUSION.
SO A LOT OF THIS DIALOGUE WILL BE A PART OF THAT.
AND I MIGHT ADD THAT THE, UM, RICK WILL GET TO SEE THAT BEFORE HE SIGNS IT TO GO TO COMMISSION.
AND WILL THE TRAFFIC STUDY BE INCLUDED IN WITH THAT? WITH THEIR PRESENTATION? EXCUSE ME? WITH THEIR PRESENTATION THE COUNCIL RECEIVES, WILL THEY RECEIVE THE TRAFFIC STUDY? I MEAN, ME PERSONALLY, I, I WOULD'VE PREFERRED TO HAVE NOT HAD TO GO LOOK FOR IT ON THE WEBSITE.
BUT WE CAN BE, IT'LL PROVIDED, IT'LL BE, IT'LL BE REFERENCED IN THE STAFF REPORT.
UM, AND IT'LL BE INCLUDED ON THE BAYTOWN ENGAGE AGAIN, 'CAUSE IT IS SUCH A LARGE DOCUMENT.
UH, I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'D WANNA PUT THAT, UH, NECESSARILY WITH THE ITEM BECAUSE IT IS A SEPARATE THING FROM IT.
UH, BUT WE WILL ALLUDE, ALLUDE TO IT, UM, THAT IT IS A TOPIC OF CONCERN FOR THE CASE, AND WE'LL MAKE IT LINKABLE AVAILABLE.
COMMISSIONER, DID YOU HAVE ANY, UM, ANYTHING ELSE THAT YOU NEEDED FROM ME? OR DID HE, DID LIO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? HE ANSWERED MY QUESTION.
I THINK NOW YOU CAN CALL FOR REV VOTE.
I CALL FOR A MOTION TO APPROVE.
THERE'S, THERE'S AN MOTION ON THE, ON THE, UM, ON THE TABLE TO DENY THE APPLICATION.
SO YOU EITHER GOT, YOU GOTTA VOTE ON THAT MOTION, OR, OR UNLESS SOMEONE WANTS TO MODIFY IT, BUT YOU GOTTA VOTE ON THAT MOTION.
SO ALL COMMISSIONERS WHO, UH, OPPOSE NO.
DENIAL, OR ALL IN FAVOR? TO DENY, APPROVE THE DENIAL.
RAISE YOUR HAND IF YOU APPROVE THE MOTION.
THE MOTION IS TO DENY THE REQUEST.
IF YOU CORRECT, IF YOU ARE IN FAVOR OF DENYING THE REQUEST, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND IF YOU'RE ALL IN.
WHOEVER'S IN FAVOR OF DENY THE MOTION TO, OF TO DENY, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND.
THE MOTION CARRIES TO APPLICATION.
TWO MEETINGS TO BE YOUR FIRST TWO MEETINGS.
[5. CONSENT]
UH, NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS ITEM NUMBER FIVE.I ASK FOR A VOTE ON, ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.
DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE? MOVE TO APPROVE.
FIRST ASK IF ANYBODY WANTS TO REMOVE ANY ITEMS FROM THE CONSENT.
'CAUSE THAT IT, YOU CAN, ANY OF THE COMMISSIONERS CAN REMOVE AN ITEM FROM THE CONSENT, UH, TO BE ADDRESSED SEPARATELY.
AND SO ASK IF ANY OF THEIR ITEMS, ANY COMMISSIONER WANTS TO REMOVE AN ITEM FROM THE CONSENT.
IF NOT, THEN LET'S DO A MOTION.
UH, I'LL ACCEPT MOTIONS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.
AND YOU DON'T WANT ME TO READ THE TWO CONSENTS? YOU DON'T WANT ME TO READ THE TWO CONSENTS? YES.
WHAT? YEAH, I, BUT AFTER, AFTER YOU ASK IF ANYONE WANTS TO REMOVE THEM AND
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THERE'S NO RESPONSE, THEN WE CAN TAKE THE FIVE BOTH, UH, ITEMS TOGETHER AS ONE PACKAGE.AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO READ 'EM, THEN IT, YEAH.
SO DO ANY OF THE COMMISSIONERS, UH, WANT TO REMOVE ANY OF THE ITEMS IN THE CONSENT? I'D LIKE TO PULL FIVE B.
SO I, I WOULD JUST LIKE, UH, I'M NEW HERE.
SO THIS IS A WAREHOUSE AND THEY ARE WANTING TO EXTEND LIKE A PROPER, A DEVELOPMENT IS WANTING TO BUILD ANOTHER ONE.
AN EXISTING WAREHOUSE DEVELOPMENT? NO, THERE'S AN EXISTING WAREHOUSE ON THE, UM, NORTHEAST CORNER.
UM, I BELIEVE WE HAVE A, WELL, MARIA, CAN YOU PULL UP THE MAP PLEASE? IN THE BACK, THERE'S AN EXISTING WAREHOUSE BUILDING THERE.
UM, THEY WANTED TO CONSTRUCT SOME PARKING ON THE SOUTHWEST, UM, CORNER, UH, THE SOUTHWEST PIECE OF PROPERTY.
UM, WHY THERE WASN'T A PLANT FILED? UH, WHENEVER THEY BUILT THE INITIAL WAREHOUSE, I DON'T KNOW.
UM, BUT, UH, I BELIEVE THE PARKING AREA, THE PERMITING REQUIRED WITH THAT, WE ASKED, UH, FOR A PLA TO BE DONE.
SHOULD WE NOT TAKE CARE OF ITEM A IF WE'RE PULLING B? YEAH, NORMALLY WHEN YOU PULL SOMETHING FROM CONSENT, YOU GO AHEAD AND VOTE ON THE CONSENT, RIGHT? AND THEN YOU TAKE THE ITEM THAT WAS PULLED.
BUT, BUT I, UH, THERE'S ONLY TWO ITEMS. BUT NORMALLY THAT'S THE WAY YOU HANDLE IT.
SO IF YOU WANT TO VOTE ON THE, THE CONSENT THAT'S REMAINING, WHICH IS JUST FIVE A, TAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT ON FIVE A THAT'S REMAINING.
I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO CONSENT TO CONSIDER.
SO THIS IS THE SUBJECT SITE OF, OF, UH, THE PLAT.
UH, LIKE I SAID, ON THE EAST OF THOMPSON VIEW, NORTH OF THOMPSON PARK, THAT NORTHEAST CORNER, UH, THERE'S ALREADY AN EXISTING DEVELOPMENT THERE.
UH, ON THE, SO WEST SIDE, NEXT TO THE WEST OF THE DE DETENTION POND, THAT IS WHERE THEY'RE PROPOSING TO DO A PARKING AREA.
UM, THERE'S ALREADY A PRELIMINARY PLANT.
UM, SO A PRELIMINARY PLANT HAS ALREADY BEEN BROUGHT BEFORE THE COMMISSION.
AND THIS IS JUST A FINAL PLANT OFFICIALLY APPROVING THIS, UH, CONFIGURATION, BUT ESSENTIALLY FOR A PARKING LOT.
IN ESSENCE, IN ESSENCE, OR, YES, IT WILL BE A PARKING LOT.
AND THAT'S WHAT, THAT'S WHAT THE INTENT OF THE APPLICANT IS TO CONSTRUCT A PARKING LOT.
SO THERE WERE TWO PIECES OF PROPERTY.
WHAT'S THE SECOND PIECE? THERE ARE, THERE'S LOT.
THERE'S, THERE'S TWO LOTS ON OPPOSITE SIDES IN THAT THOMPSON IN BETWEEN MM-HMM
COULD YOU GO BACK TO THE OTHER MAP YOU HAD? IT'S THOMPSON PARK IN BETWEEN.
SO ON THE EAST SIDE OF THOMPSON IS THE PARKING LOT ON THE EAST SIDE OF THOMPSON VIEW.
OF WHERE THE HIGHLIGHTED SUBJECT PROPERTY IS? YES.
THERE'S A DEVELOPMENT ALREADY THERE.
WHERE, AND SO THE, THE PROPOSED PARKING LOT IS ON THE, SO THE SOUTHERN PROPERTY, THE TRIANGULAR PIECE.
DOES THAT BELONG TO THE SAME PEOPLE? YES.
I'D LIKE TO MOVE FOR APPROVAL.
ALL OPPOSED? MR. CARRIES SECOND? YES.
[a. Consider a discussion on the City sponsored Rezoning of a portion of the Massey Tompkins corridor.]
NUMBER SIX ON THE AGENDA IS, UH, ITEM A IS CONSIDERED A DISCUSSION ON THE CITY SPONSORED REZONING OF A PORTION OF MASSEY TOMPKINS CORRIDOR.AND ITEM B IS RECEIVE A DISCUSSION, UH, RECEIVE AND DISCUSS A PRESENTATION CONCERNING THE ARTS DISTRICT BLUEPRINT.
I'M A PLANNER WITH THE PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.
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IS, UH, APPROXIMATELY, UH, 13 ACRES OF LAND THAT IS, UH, CONTAINING 20, UM, PROPERTIES.IT'S ON THE EAST SIDE OF CROSBY, CEDAR BAYOU, UH, ONE LOT WEST OF HARDIN ROAD, AND ALSO ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF MASSEY TOMKINS.
THE SURROUNDED, UM, SURROUNDING AREA, UM, INCLUDES, UM, A FEW MINUTES TO HIGHWAY 1 46.
UM, IT'S WELL-SERVED NEIGHBORHOOD BY SCHOOLS AND PARKS.
UM, VARIETY OF, UH, HOUSING TYPES ARE IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD.
WE CAN SEE, UM, MANUFACTURE HOMES.
WE SEE ALSO, UM, RV PARKS, UH, REGULAR, UH, TYPES OF HOMES, AS WELL AS SOME STATE LOTS.
WE ALSO SEE SOME DEVELOPMENT ACTIVITIES IN, UH, IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND THAT'S WHY, UM, ONE OF THE REASONS WHY THE CITY IS EXPLORING, UM, THE, UH, CITY SPONSORED REZONING IN THIS AREA.
THE, UH, SUBJECT PROPERTY, UH, WHAT THEY SHARE, UH, TOGETHER IS ALL OF THEM HAVE ACCESS OFF OF MESSI TOMPKINS, AS YOU CAN SEE, THOSE BLACK TRIANGLES, UH, REPRESENTING ACCESS, DRIVEWAY ACCESS.
UM, WE ALSO HAVE SOME NON-CONFORMING USES.
UM, THIS IS THE, UH, FOOD MART ON A, UH, A RESIDENTIAL, UH, ZONING.
ALSO SOME, UM, COMMERCIAL USES HERE AS WELL.
WE HAVE SOME VACANT LANDS ON THE NORTH SIDE OF MASSEY TOMPKINS, AS WELL AS THE SOUTH SIDE OF MASSEY TOMPKINS.
AND WE WANTED TO POINT OUT HERE THAT THE, UM, THE CURRENT ZONING, WHICH WE WILL TALK ABOUT, UH, LATER ON THE SLIDES, IS LIMITING THE, UH, ABILITY FOR SOME OF THE COMMERCIAL USES ON THIS, UH, ON THE SUBJECT PROPERTIES TO EXPAND ON, UH, THEIR BUSINESSES.
SO WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN, UH, A CITY SPONSORED REZONING AND THE REGULAR REZONING? UM, THE REZONING REQUEST IS BEING PROPOSED BY THE CITY.
UH, THERE ISN'T ANY, UH, OFFICIAL DECISION YET.
WE'LL, BRINGING THIS TO, UH, PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT, WE HAD AN OPEN HOUSE ON MARCH, UH, FIFTH, UH, WITH THE, UH, PROPERTY OWNERS OF THE SURROUNDING AREA.
AND THEN WE WILL CONTINUE TO HAVE THE SAME PROCEDURE AS THE ZONING MAP AMENDMENT, THE REGULAR ZONING MAP AMENDMENT.
WHERE ARE WE DOING THIS? HERE? BECAUSE THE CITY IS, UM, EXPERIENCING, UH, PRESSURE DEVELOPMENT PRESSURE IN THIS AREA, WE HAVE SEEN, UH, SO MANY DEVELOPMENTS ARE HAPPENING, UH, ALONG MESSY TOMPKINS AS WELL AS CROSS BC BIO.
I KNOW IT'S, IT'S A LITTLE BIT CONTENTIOUS, UH, RIGHT NOW, BUT, UH, WE CONTINUE TO LISTEN TO APPLICANTS AND RESIDENTS OF THIS AREA.
THE, UH, FUTURE LAND USE MAP, UH, DESIGNATES THE SUBJECT PROPERTY, WHICH IS HIGHLIGHTED HERE IN DASHED AS LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL ON THE NORTH SIDE OF MASSEY TOMPKINS, AS WELL AS THE SOUTH SIDE OF MASSEY TOMPKINS.
THE CURRENT ZONING MAP IS, UM, ZONED THE, UH, THE NORTH SIDE OF MASSEY TOMKIN.
UH, THE SUBJECT PROPERTIES ARE ZONED SF TWO, THE SOUTH SIDE OF MASSEY TOMKINS.
UH, WITHIN THE SUBJECT PROPERTIES ARE ZONED SF ONE.
WE ALSO SEE, UM, SOME, UH, ZONING THAT WAS IN PLACE IN 2022, UH, FOR THIS CORNER TO BECOME GENERAL COMMERCIAL.
AND WE HAVE AN ACTIVE APPLICATION, UH, AN ACTIVE BUILDING PERMIT IN THIS CORNER RIGHT NOW.
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TO SHED SOME LIGHTS ON OTHER, UM, COMMERCIAL ZONING WITHIN THE CITY, BUT IT'S NOT PRESENTED IN THIS, UH, MAP BECAUSE IT'S NOT IN, IN THIS VICINITY.SO, OTHER, UM, COMMERCIAL ZONES THAT WE THINK MAY, UH, BE APPROPRIATE ON THE SUBJECT AREA IS THE, UM, THE MIXED USE ZONING AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD SERVING COMMERCIAL.
SO TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA ABOUT THE DIFFERENCE USES IN EACH COMMERCIAL, UH, ZONING DISTRICT, THIS IS THE, UM, THE TYPE OF USES THAT WE FIND IN GENERAL COMMERCIAL, LARGE SCALE, UH, LARGE SCALE, UH, COMMERCIAL WITH, UH, PARKING AREAS.
UM, MORE THAN 10,000 SQUARE FEET OF, UH, BUILD OUT, UH, COMMERCIAL ON ARTERIAL ROADS.
AND THESE ARE SOME OF THE PRELIMINARY USES THAT IT'S PERMITTED OR PERMITTED WITH CONDITIONS IN GENERAL.
COMMERCIAL, THE, UH, MIXED USE ZONING IS, UM, HAS BEEN THROUGH SOME CHANGES IN 2022 TO ELIMINATE SOME OF THE INTENSE USES.
UH, THE INTENSE COMMERCIAL USES FROM THE ZONING DISTRICT AND REPLACED BY, UM, DUPLEXES AND SOME MIXED USE BUILDINGS.
SO THESE ARE THE TYPE OF, UM, MIXED USE ZONING THAT COULD FIT WITHIN THIS SUBJECT PROPERTY, LIKE A, UM, A DUPLEX HERE ON WEST MAIN.
THIS IS A, UM, ONE STRUCTURE THAT HAS, UH, AN OFFICE AT GRADE AND A RESIDENTIAL UNIT ON TOP.
SO THIS IS ALSO SOMETHING THAT WE COULD, UH, PERMIT ON MIXED USE.
THIS IS A TOWN HOME, UH, DEVELOPMENT IN, UH, IN BAYTOWN.
THIS IS ALSO, UM, A TYPE OF MIXED USE.
UM, IT'S A COMBINATION BETWEEN OFFICE OR RETAIL AT THE GROUND FLOOR AND, UH, RESIDENTIAL UNIT ON TOP.
SMALL SCALE MIXED USE RESIDENTIAL, OR COULD BE A DUPLEX IS NOW PERMITTED WITHIN THIS MIXED USE ZONING DISTRICT.
UM, THE NEIGHBORHOOD SERVING COMMERCIAL, IT'S A, IT'S A GENERAL RETAIL, SMALL GROCERY STORE, NOT EXCEEDING 5 CENTS A SQUARE FEET.
UM, IT ALLOWS FOR VEHICLE FUELING STATION, BUT IT DOES NOT ALLOW FOR ANY RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT TO HAPPEN.
AND THESE ARE SOME EXAMPLES OF, UM, OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD SCALE, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD SERVING COMMERCIAL WITHIN THE CITY OF BETA.
THE CITY IS, UM, PROPOSING TWO OPTIONS FOR THE REZONING.
AND WE WILL, UM, WE WILL EXPLAIN THE FIRST OPTION.
IT'S A TRUE MIXED USE ALONG THE WHOLE, UH, SUBJECT PROPERTIES ALONG THE STUDY THAT ALLOWS FOR SOME SMALL SCALE MIX OF USES BETWEEN SOME COMMERCIAL OFFICES OR, UH, RESIDENTIAL.
THE SECOND OPTION IS TO ALLOW FOR THE CORNER LOT AT MASSEY TOMPKINS AND CROSBY CEDAR BIO, UH, TO HAVE THE FREEDOM TO, UM, TO BE ONLY COMMERCIAL OR TO EXPAND ON THE, UH, THE FOOT MART, THE EXISTING, UH, UH, COMMERCIAL USES.
AND WE HAVE HELD THE, UM, THE OPEN HOUSE ON MARCH 5TH, AS I SAID.
AND WE HAVE A, UH, COMMENT FORM ON BAYTOWN ENGAGE THAT WE HAVE RECEIVED A MIX OF, UH, FEEDBACKS FROM THE COMMUNITY.
UH, SOME ARE OPPOSING, SOME ARE,
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UH, SUPPORTING, UH, THIS REZONING.WE WILL CONTINUE TO HAVE FEEDBACK.
AND THIS, UM, REPORT WILL COME TO YOU NEXT MONTH IN MAY, UH, WITH RECOMMENDATIONS FROM CITY STAFF.
SO THAT'S THE, UM, THAT'S THE NEXT STEP IS TO PRESENT TO YOU, UM, RECOMMENDATION REPORT FOR THE CITY SPONSORED REZONING.
AND IT'LL GO TO JUNE CITY COUNCIL MEETING FOR FINAL DECISION.
IF YOU NEED TO HAVE, UH, MORE INFORMATION, YOU CAN GO TO BAYTOWN, ENGAGE PAGE, UH, MASS TOMPKINS CITY SPONSORED REZONING, AND YOU CAN PROVIDE COMMENTS.
YOU CAN, UH, GIVE US YOUR FEEDBACK.
UM, AND, UM, UH, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME, ANY QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS? NO, MA'AM.
I JUST WANNA KNOW WHAT PROMPTED THIS.
YEAH, AS I MENTIONED IT, IT WAS, UM, WE HAVE SEEN A FEW LIKE, UH, DEVELOPMENT PRESSURES IN THIS AREA.
AS I HIGHLIGHTED IN THE FIRST, UH, SLIDE THAT IT'S, UM, SORRY, I'M GOING BACK.
SO, SO WE HAVE, WE ARE SEEING, UH, DEVELOPMENT IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, LIKE NEW RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISION.
WE HAVE HAD, UM, THIS, UH, ACTIVE PERMIT FOR, UH, GAS STATION AND, UH, CONVENIENCE STORE AS WELL AS ON THIS SIDE WE HAVE ACTIVE PERMIT FOR, UH, GAS STATION AND CONVENIENCE STORE.
UH, WE HAVE THIS, UH, DOLLAR STORE, DOLLAR TREE, UH, BEING, UH, CONSTRUCTED RIGHT NOW.
WE HAVE, UM, WE HAVE THIS DOLLARAMA AND UM, AND WE HAVE THIS REZONING THAT WENT BEFORE YOU LAST MONTH.
WE HAVE THIS, UM, ACTIVE ZONING MAP, UH, AMENDMENT APPLICATION IN HERE.
SO, AND WE, WE ARE THINKING THAT, UM, THIS DEVELOP, THIS AREA COULD POTENTIALLY ACCOMMODATE MORE RESIDENTIAL OR MORE, UH, A MIX OF RESIDENTIAL AND OFFICE, UH, USES, UH, FOR SOME OF THE VACANT PROPERTIES IN THERE.
UM, SOUTH OF MASSEY TOMPKINS WHERE YOU HAVE A PARTIAL OF THAT HIGHLIGHTED, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, THERE'S COMMERCIAL GOING AT THAT CORNER.
WHAT ABOUT THAT STRIP IN BETWEEN? WHY IS THAT NOT ADDRESSED? IT'S PLANNED.
IT'S PLANNED FOR A SUBDIVISION FOR, UH, SINGLE FAMILY HOMES.
SO THIS IS ALL THE WAY TO THAT FRONTAGE.
THIS IS ZONED A, UM, UH, FOR SINGLE FAMILY TWO S SF TWO.
I BELIEVE IT'S SF TWO OR SF ONE.
I HAVE TO DOUBLE G IF YOU NEED IT.
I KNEW THERE WAS A PROPOSAL THERE, I JUST, WE HAVEN'T HEARD ANYTHING ABOUT IT FOR A WHILE.
AND I DIDN'T KNOW IF ANYTHING HAD CHANGED THERE.
IT'S ZONED, ZONED FOR TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT.
SO IT JUST BE THE PLATTING THAT THEY WOULD HAVE TO, TO DO.
IT WOULD COME BEFORE Y'ALL AS A PRELIMINARY PLANT, GIVEN THAT MANY LOTS.
SO I WOULD HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT IT AT THAT TIME.
WE HAVE SOME SITE WORK, UM, PERMITS IN THERE, BUT NOT YET A, UH, PROPOSED PLA WOULD YOU MIND GOING BACK A COUPLE SLIDES WHERE IT HAD THE ARROWS OF THE DRIVEWAYS? YEAH, YEAH.
BUT ONE MORE, OR BACK THE OTHER DIRECTION.
SO, I, I GUESS MY QUESTION IS THAT ON, SO WHAT, THAT WOULD BE THE NORTH SIDE OF MASSEY TOMPKINS AND CORRECT.
I'VE GOT ALL MY BEARINGS,
SO I'M ASSUMING THAT THOSE ARE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES THAT ARE THERE CURRENTLY MM-HMM
AND SO I GUESS, WHY DO THEY NEED TO BE INCLUDED IN THIS AND HAVE Y'ALL SPOKEN TO THOSE HOMEOWNERS
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TO SEE HOW THEY FEEL ABOUT THIS? SO, UM, THEY WERE INCLUDED BECAUSE THEY HAVE, UH, THE SAME CHARACTERISTICS AS, UH, WE WERE TRYING TO INVESTIGATE AND DO THE RESEARCH FOR, WHICH IS HAVING A DRIVEWAY OFF OF MASSEY TOMPKINS.IF YOU LOOK AT THE NUMBER OF DRIVEWAY, THIS IS 19, UH, DRIVEWAY ACCESS, UM, NOT COUNTING THE, UH, THE GAS STATION, UM, AND THE CONVENIENCE STORE AND THE NEW SUBDIVISION TO THE SOUTH.
SO, UM, IN, IN TRYING TO, UH, INCLUDE THOSE UNITS, SOME OF THEM ARE, UM, ACTUALLY, UH, COMMERCIAL, THE TWO RED DOTS HERE, AND THIS IS COMMERCIAL, BUT THE OTHER ONES, AS YOU SAID, IT'S RESIDENTIAL.
BUT TO GIVE THEM THE ABILITY IN THE FUTURE TO, UM, TO, UM, LIKE, UM, CONSOLIDATE AND DO SOMETHING, UH, THAT IT'S, UM, BENEFICIAL TO THIS LAND.
WE SEE THAT LARGE PROPERTIES HERE, UM, THAT IT'S VACANT.
AND, UM, IF YOU GO BACK ON PARENTIS LANE, THESE PROPERTIES DOES NOT HAVE UTILITIES.
SO IF WE ALLOW, UM, A DEVELOPMENT TO HAPPEN, THE DEVELOPER WOULD HAVE TO BRING UTILITIES TO AND THROUGH THEIR PROPERTY, AND THEN, UM, GIVING ACCESS TO THOSE PROPERTIES AT THE BACK.
HOWEVER, THE FEEDBACK IS VERY IMPORTANT FROM THE, UH, THE PROPERTY OWNERS.
UM, AND WE WILL TAKE THIS INTO CONSIDERATIONS.
SO I, I GUESS I WAS JUST SPEAKING MORE SPECIFICALLY TO THOSE THAT HAVE HOMES AND LIVE IN HOMES IN THAT AREA AND DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE THEIR HOME ON THE MARKET 'CAUSE THEY INTEND ON CONTINUING TO LIVE THERE AND REZONING THEM TO COMMERCIAL AND HOW THAT WOULD AFFECT THEIR PROPERTY VALUES, UM, IF IT WOULD AT ALL.
BUT ALSO HOW THEY FEEL ABOUT WHAT THEY PURCHASED AS RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY.
HOW THEY WOULD FEEL, SPECIFICALLY THOSE THAT DO NOT.
I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY THEY WOULD BE INCLUDED, WHY IT WOULDN'T CUT OFF AT THE BLUE STAR.
UH, IF I COULD ADDRESS, YOU KNOW, YES, PLANNING IS, IS A BIT OF CURRENCY AND FUTURE STATE.
SO, UH, WE TRY TO LOOK AT THINGS HOLISTICALLY AND, AND WITH A LITTLE BIT OF A LONG-TERM VISION, UH, YOU KNOW, SINGLE FAMILY DEVELOPMENT AS IT IS, YOU KNOW, TODAY AND UNDER TODAY'S CODE ISN'T ALLOWED ON THIS TYPE OF THOROUGHFARE.
SO, YOU KNOW, TO, TO MAINTAIN THIS IDEA THAT IT'S GONNA BE WITH THAT SIZE OF A LOT, YOU KNOW, RESIDENTIAL FOREVER IS, IS PROBABLY NOT REALISTIC.
UM, SO WE'RE GIVING PEOPLE LANDOWNERS SOME OPTIONS IN THE FUTURE.
OBVIOUSLY, THEY'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO MAINTAIN THEIR HOME AS A, AS A NON-CONFORMING, LEGAL, NON-CONFORMING USE IF THE ZONING IS CHANGED.
AND, AND, UH, SO IT WOULDN'T SIGNIF IT WOULDN'T IMPACT THEM IN TERMS OF, YOU KNOW, THE CURRENT USE OF THEIR PROPERTY.
UH, THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO CONTINUE TO DO THAT.
UH, BUT AGAIN, WE KINDA WANNA LOOK AT THE FUTURE STATE OF THIS CORRIDOR, OF THE DEVELOPMENT PRESSURES THAT, YOU KNOW, WE TALKED ABOUT AT LENGTH TODAY AND TRY TO CONSIDER THAT, YOU KNOW, SO WE CAN LOOK AT THIS AREA HOLISTICALLY AND, AND IF I MAY, THEY WILL LIKELY GET A BUMP IN THEIR VALUE.
BECAUSE A DEVELOPER'S NOT GONNA COME AND BUY ONE SMALL LITTLE SLIVER.
THEY'RE GONNA, THEY'RE GONNA NEED FOUR OR FIVE OF THESE SIX AT A TIME, AND THEIR LOT WOULD BE INCLUDED IN IT AND MIGHT PROHIBIT A DEVELOPER FROM MOVING FORWARD AND MIGHT PAY A PREMIUM FOR THEIR LOT TO INCLUDE IT IN, IN THEIR PROJECTED PROJECT.
AND THEN THEY COULD ALSO POTENTIALLY TAX 'EM OUTSIDE OF THEIR HOME TAX THEM TAX THEM OUTSIDE OF THEIR HOME WHERE THEY WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO AFFORD.
THEY'RE STILL TAX RESIDENTIAL.
AND, AND THEY WON'T BE DISPLACED.
MAINLY, I'LL, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, DIDN'T WE DO THIS ON OTHER END OF MASSEY TOMPKINS? SORRY.
THEY DECIDED TO, THEY DECIDED TO DO THE LANDSCAPING AT THE MOST INCONVENIENT.
DIDN'T WE DO THIS ON THE OTHER END OF MASSEY TOMPKINS SOMETIME AGO? WE MADE IT ALL COMMERCIAL BECAUSE THERE WAS SO MUCH COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT THERE.
UM, MR. CHAVIS, WHEN HE WAS HERE AT THAT TIME, UH, HE WAS OUR LONG RANGE, UM, UH, PLANNING MANAGER, AND HE DID PRESENT A, UH, REZONING.
I DON'T BELIEVE IT WAS SUCCESSFUL.
UM, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, UM, DO YOU, I DON'T THINK THERE'S, IT WAS NOT, I THINK IT WAS CONSIDERED AND IT WAS A DISCUSSION, BUT I
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DON'T THINK THAT IT ADVANCED.ONE OF THESE SLIDES INDICATED RED ON THE, THAT SIDE, THAT CORNER.
I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS JUST THE CORNER, BUT I REMEMBER US HAVING THAT DISCUSSION OF MAKING THAT COMMERCIAL FROM, I THINK, I THINK FROM CEDAR BY CROSBY BACK TO NORTH MAINE.
AND THERE WERE STILL RESIDENTIAL ON THAT STREET ALSO.
SO I THINK IT'S JUST A CONTINUATION OF THAT BECAUSE IT LEADS INTO A MAJOR HIGHWAY.
'CAUSE HEAD START WENT IN THERE, RIGHT? YEAH.
ALSO,
NO, THIS IS JUST THE DISCUSSION ITEM WE JUST TELL.
ONE IS MIXED USE AND ONE IS COMMERCIAL.
AND ONE IS MIXED USE AND ONE IS NEIGHBORHOOD N SC, NSC.
THAT'S A, IT'S A TYPE OF COMMERCIAL, BUT IT'S A, IT'S ON A MUCH LOWER SCALE COMMERCIAL.
I ALWAYS LIKE MU OH, SORRY RICK, GO AHEAD.
IT, JUST ASK ANY OTHER QUESTIONS.
NO, I WAS, I JUST ALWAYS LIKE MU UM, I'M A LITTLE BIT OVER THE STRIP CENTERS MM-HMM
UM, THE ONE THAT YOU PICTURED, INTERESTINGLY ENOUGH, I THINK EVERY SINGLE UNIT WAS VACANT FOR AT LEAST A YEAR, YEAR AND A HALF.
UM, AND NOW IT'S FULL, BUT IT TOOK A VERY, VERY LONG TIME FOR IT TO GET FULL.
IT'S ZERO PARKING, IT'S AN ISSUE.
BUT, UH, ANYW, WHO? UM, I, I PERSONALLY LIKE MUI THINK IT ALLOWS FOR A LOT OF OPTIONS.
YEAH, I THINK THAT'LL FRAME HOW WE, HOW WE PRESENT IT TO Y'ALL.
UM, AT, AT NEXT MONTH'S MEETING.
UM, UNFORTUNATELY THERE WASN'T A LOT OF PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT AT THE OPEN HOUSE, BUT WE DID HAVE AN OPEN HOUSE IN THE AREA, UM, AND LET THE AFFECTED PROPERTIES KNOW, UH, AND TRY TO ADVERTISE IT AS BEST AS WE COULD, BUT JUST NOT A LOT OF PARTICIPATION THERE.
SO, UH, HOPEFULLY WHEN THEY GET THE NOTICES THAT THIS IS GONNA MOVE FORWARD, THEN MAYBE THEY'LL COME AND, AND VOICE THEIR OPINIONS.
BUT, UH, RIGHT NOW WE'RE JUST GONNA MOVE AHEAD, LIKELY WITH MIXED USE.
[b. Receive and Discuss a presentation concerning the Arts District Blueprint]
UH, SIX B, UH, RECEIVE AND DISCUSS A PRESENTATION CONCERNING THE ARTS DISTRICT BLUEPRINT.SO, UH, I DON'T WANNA STEAL TOO MUCH OF OUR, OUR CONSULTANTS THUNDER.
UH, WE DO HAVE, UH, GREG FILS FROMM WITH KKC.
UM, THERE ARE CONSULTANTS, URBAN PLANNING CONSULTANTS ON A FEW DIFFERENT PROJECTS AT THE MOMENT.
UM, ONE OF THEM BEING THE ARTS DISTRICT'S BLUEPRINT, WHICH IS A, UM, A, A MASTER PLAN FOR, TO GUIDE THE FUTURE REDEVELOPMENT AND, AND REIMAGINATION OF DOWNTOWN BAYTOWN AND THE ARTS DISTRICT THERE.
SO GREG IS GONNA TAKE US THROUGH, UM, YOU KNOW, THE WORK THAT WE'VE DONE ON THIS PROJECT, UM, DATING BACK TO, UH, KIND OF THE FALL OF LAST YEAR, UH, AND WHERE WE'RE ENDING UP NOW WITH SOME OF THE EARLY RECOMMENDATIONS AND FINDINGS.
BUT I JUST WANTED TO INTRODUCE GREG AND, AND KIND OF TEE IT UP FOR HIM.
BUT HE'S GONNA GO THROUGH A PRESENTATION, HOPEFULLY KIND OF BRIEF SINCE YOU KNOW, Y'ALL BEEN, I'VE BEEN HERE FOR A WHILE, BUT APPRECIATE YOUR ATTENTION TO THIS.
HELLO, GREG? YEAH, THANK, THANKS, EMILIO.
CAN YOU, CAN Y'ALL HEAR ME?
I'M ALSO HERE, UH, WITH, WITH JENNIFER MATT, WHO'S THE ARCHITECT AND URBAN DESIGNER WITH OUR CURRENT WORK ON THIS PROJECT.
UM, IT'S REALLY, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, NICE TO BE ABLE TO PRESENT TO THE, UH, PLANNING, ZONING COMMISSION.
AND AS EMILIO SAID, WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS, UH, PROJECT SINCE, UH, LATE SUMMER, EARLY FALL OF LAST YEAR.
AND WE DID IT IN CONCERT WITH, OR DOING IT IN CONCERT WITH THE CITY'S ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STRATEGY.
AND I THINK THE CITY AND, AND ITS WISDOM, YOU KNOW, WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT BOTH PROJECTS, THAT THE ARTS BLUEPRINT, IE DOWNTOWN PLAN AND THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STRATEGY WERE DONE, UM, TOGETHER.
BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF OVERLAP HERE.
UM, AND, UH, THERE'S A LOT OF FOCUS ON WHAT DOES THE CITY NEED TO DO TO ACTUALLY IMPLEMENT, EXECUTE THIS PLAN.
AND, UM, AND I THINK, UH, YOU KNOW, THERE MAY, THERE MAY BE A LOT HERE FOR Y'ALL TO DIGEST.
WE'RE GONNA GO THROUGH VERY HIGH LEVEL, UM, PRESENTATION, FOCUSING MOSTLY ON THE, THE PHYSICAL DESIGN ELEMENTS OF THE PLAN.
UM, BUT THERE'S ALSO AN ECONOMIC PLAN THAT GOES WITH THIS AND A DETAILED IMPLEMENTATION PLAN.
AND, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO SAY THAT, UH, A PLAN WITHOUT, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, AN IMPLEMENTATION SIDE IS REALLY JUST WISHFUL THINKING.
SO THIS, THIS PLAN CONTEMPLATES THE CITY USING SOME TOOLS, UM, THAT IT, THAT IT HASN'T USED IN THE PAST.
UM, AND ALSO TAKING A MORE DIRECT ROLE IN PUBLIC INVESTMENT AND ACTUALLY DEVELOPER RECRUITMENT.
SO IT IS A, A DESIGN PLAN THAT'S ALSO A REDEVELOPMENT PLAN.
IF I COULD, GREG, REAL QUICK, SORRY TO INTERRUPT YOU.
CAN YOU CHANGE THE VIEWS SO IT'S LIKE A FULL SCREEN
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VIEW.WE'RE ONLY SEEING LIKE THE CURRENT SIGN AND THE NEXT SLIDE VIEW.
YOU STILL ON A SMALL SCREEN? YES, IT'S, LET SEE IF I CAN DO SOMETHING ON MY SIDE, BUT KNOWING MY TECHNOLOGICAL EXPERTISE, I'LL END UP CUTTING MYSELF OFF.
UM, IT MIGHT BE THE, THE DISPLAY SETTINGS UP AT THE TOP, KIND OF IN THE MIDDLE.
UM, IT'S GREAT TO HAVE A MILLENNIAL IN THE ROOM THAT I, UM, SO WE WORKED ON TECHNOLOGICAL ACUMEN THAN I DO.
UM, ANYWAY, UH, SO THESE ARE THE GOALS OF THE PLAN.
SO, UM, YOU KNOW, THERE'S LOT OF YOUR GOALS, BUT REALLY WANNA MAKE SURE THAT TO BE ABLE TO DO THIS, WE ARE INCREASING ACTIVITIES DOWNTOWN OR THE ARTS DISTRICT, AND THERE'S A BIG FOCUS HERE ON BRINGING MORE PEOPLE HERE AND HAVING THEM LIVE HERE BECAUSE IT'S REALLY, YOU KNOW, HARD THING TO DO TO HAVE A, AN ACTIVE ALIVE DOWNTOWN WITHOUT MORE PEOPLE LIVING IN YOUR, IN YOUR CITY.
AND IF YOU LOOK AT ANY SUCCESSFUL DOWNTOWN AREA, MOST OF 'EM HAVE, UH, SO A RESIDENTIAL COMPONENT, FAIRLY STRONG RESIDENTIAL COMPONENT.
WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT LARGE, MASSIVE APARTMENT BUILDINGS, BUT RATHER WHAT'S DESCRIBED AS GENTLE DENSITY, THINGS LIKE TOWNHOUSES AND APARTMENTS ABOVE STOREFRONTS AND SMALLER APARTMENT BUILDINGS.
UM, WE ALSO WANT TO, YOU KNOW, MAXIMIZE THE CITY'S COLLEGE TOWN AND WATERFRONT, UM, UH, POTENTIAL.
HERE YOU HAVE A, A COLLEGE THAT'S NOT REALLY, DOESN'T HAVE A LOT OF CHEMISTRY HAPPENING WITH DOWNTOWN, AND YOU ALSO HAVE A, A WATERFRONT, UH, RIGHT TO THE WEST THERE THAT IS NOT BEING TAKEN MAXIMUM ADVANTAGE OF.
AND WE WANT TO TRY TO WORK THIS PLAN IN SUCH A WAY THAT WE'RE REACHING OUT AND EMBRACING THOSE TWO ASSETS, UH, IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA.
WE WANNA MAKE THE DISTRICT MORE ATTRACTIVE FOR INVESTMENT, OBVIOUSLY, AND HELP IMPROVE THE OVERALL USER EXPERIENCE.
UM, SO THIS IS GENERALLY THE, THE AREA OF THE GEOGRAPHY THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
MOST OF YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH IT.
THIS IS, UH, HAPPENS TO BE A ZONING DESIGNATION, BUT IT RUNS, BASICALLY IT'S A TEXAS AVENUE CORRIDOR OR A COUPLE BLOCKS IN BOTH SIDES OF THAT, ABOUT FIRST STREET TO THE MARKET DECKER, UH, UH, INTERSECTION IN THE WIDE INTERSECTION.
AND AS I SAID, WHAT WE REALLY WANT TO DO IS HOW DO WE CONNECT THIS, THE AREA IN THE DEEP RED AS KIND OF YOUR CORE DOWNTOWN, UH, EXPAND IT OUT TOWARD LEE COLLEGE AND HAVE IT REACH OUT TO THE WATERFRONT, WHICH WE THINK IS ONE OF YOUR MOST IMMEDIATE REDEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITIES.
AND ALSO THIS WHERE DOWNTOWN MEETS THE ARTERIAL ROADWAY SYSTEM THAT SERVES THE CITY.
AND SO, YOU KNOW, DOWNTOWN RIGHT NOW HAS THIS KIND OF ISOLATED, TUCKED AWAY ASPECT TO IT.
AND WE WANT TO HELP CHANGE THAT BY STRETCHING DOWNTOWN OUT TO THE WATERFRONT AND HELP HAVE IT EMBRACE THE COLLEGE AND HAVE MORE OF A DIRECT, YOU KNOW, TOWN TO GOWN, IF YOU WILL, RELATIONSHIP WITH, WITH WITH COLLEGE.
UM, WHEN WE FIRST STARTED ABOUT DOING OUR ANALYSIS OF, YOU KNOW, WE, WE ALWAYS START WITH DOING
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A DISCUSSION ITEM, SO, UM, OBVIOUSLY NO ACTION TONIGHT.UM, BUT AGAIN, WE WOULD LOVE TO HEAR YOUR FEEDBACK ON THIS.
UH, WE DO INTEND, UH, TO BRING THIS TO YOU FOR FORMAL ACTION AT THE MAIN MEETING.
SO ANYTHING THAT YOU WANT TO, OPINIONS WHAT YOU HATE, WHAT YOU LIKE TO INFORM, UM, THIS PLAN, IF YOU COULD SHARE THAT WITH US AT THIS TIME, THAT'D BE VERY HELPFUL.
I'M NOT A FAN OF PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS, SO THAT'S THE BIG THING THAT CONCERNS ME RIGHT OFF THE BAT.
I THINK, UM, THE CONCERN IS THAT THE CITY'S INVESTMENT IN THIS, UM, DOESN'T SEEM TO BE GOING ON A GOOD TRACK RECORD RIGHT NOW WHEN IT COMES TO PUBLIC-PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS.
I THINK THERE'S A, KEEPING IT SPECIFIC TO THIS, THE STUDY AREA, YOU KNOW, THAT GREG KIND OF HIGHLIGHTED SOME CONSTRAINTS OF, WELL, WHY, YOU KNOW, WHEN IT COMES TO REAL ESTATE OR THE EXISTING INFRASTRUCTURE, WHY IT'S A CHALLENGE FOR NEW DEVELOPMENT.
SO, UH, WE LOOK AT STRATEGIES, YOU KNOW, FROM THIS TO ENCOURAGE IT, AND THAT WOULD MIGHT INVOLVE SOME NEW INCENTIVE PROGRAMS, UM, MAYBE PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS, CERTAINLY, UM, HOPEFULLY THAT SOMETHING THAT CONTEMPLATES IS, YOU KNOW, ACTUALLY TASKING A
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AN ENTITY WITH REDEVELOPMENT FOR DOWNTOWN AND GREAT IN HIGHLIGHT THAT, UM, JUST FOR TIME, BUT POSSIBLY A REDEVELOPMENT ORGANIZATION THAT WOULD BE REALLY SPEARHEADING THIS, A NONPROFIT IF YOU WILL, KIND OF STANDALONE, UM, NONPROFIT THAT IS TASKED WITH DOING THIS KIND OF WORK.UM, BECAUSE IT MAY BE JUST, YOU KNOW, HAVING THEM POSITION THOSE MAKE PACKAGE DEALS TOGETHER.
UM, YOU KNOW, JUST GIVE ME THAT MORE FOCUS.
THAT'S WHY, YOU KNOW, MAYBE DEVELOPMENT HASN'T HAPPENED THE WAY THE CITY HAD HOPED FOR, BUT WE, WE CERTAINLY WANNA LEVERAGE THE EXISTING INVESTMENTS.
UM, BUT IT MAY TAKE A LITTLE BIT MORE, UH, IN TERMS OF INCENTIVES, NOT NECESS, MAYBE NOT NECESSARILY PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS AS WE'VE BEEN USED TO THEM RECENTLY, BUT CERTAINLY IN IN THE FRAMEWORK OF INCENTIVES MOST LIKELY.
AND HAS A FEASIBILITY STUDY BEEN DONE THAT WOULD SUPPORT THIS IN TERMS OF THE PLAN ITSELF? YES.
SO THE, AND GREG CAN SPEAK MORE TO THIS, BUT IT'S GONNA COME WITH AN IMPLEMENTATION PLAN THAT KIND OF PRIORITIZES AND RANKS CERTAIN THINGS, ASPECTS, WHETHER IT BE PROGRAM OR IMPROVEMENTS OVER ONE OR THE OTHER.
UM, I DON'T KNOW HOW SPECIFIC IT GETS DOWN TO THE PRICE TAG OF THOSE THINGS, BUT IT DOES KIND OF GIVE US A FRAMEWORK OF HOW DO WE TACKLE THOSE THINGS.
I LIKE THE IDEA OF THE CITY MAINTAINING SOME OF THOSE PROPERTIES FOR FUTURE GROWTH SO THAT IT'S THERE WHEN A DEVELOPER MAY COME FORWARD.
IT'S VERY DIFFICULT FOR A DEVELOPER TO COME FORWARD AND LOOK AT THAT SETUP AS IT IS NOW AND BE ABLE TO ACQUIRE THE AMOUNT OF PROPERTY THEY WOULD NEED TO DEVELOP WHAT WE ENVISIONED.
UM, YOU KNOW, THAT WE DID THAT IN THE PAST WHERE WE WERE ABLE TO ACQUIRE A NUMBER OF PIECES DOWN THERE THAT WERE CITY OWNED UNTIL THE WORD GOT OUT AND THEN PRICES STARTED GOING UP,
UM, AND, AND SO MAYBE IT'S TIME FOR ANOTHER EFFORT SIMILAR TO THAT.
UM, I THINK THAT BEING ABLE TO ATTRACT A DEVELOPER OF THAT LEVEL WILL REQUIRE SOME OWNERSHIP OF PROPERTY.
I ALWAYS SAID IF ONE PERSON OWNED IT ALL, IT WOULD BE EASY TO DEVELOP
BUT TO SAY THAT I'M GONNA PUT IN A BUSINESS IN THIS BUILDING AND THE BUILDING NEXT TO ME IS FALLING DOWN, LITERALLY, UH, IS NOT FEASIBLE AT ALL.
RIGHT? AND SO THERE'S SOME CHALLENGES THERE, BUT I THINK HAVING, WE HAVE TO LOOK AT IT, I THINK WE HAVE TO STUDY AND DETERMINE WHAT'S THE BEST WAY TO DO THAT.
UH, THERE ARE SOME IDEAS HERE.
I DON'T KNOW THAT I CAN BUY INTO THE WHOLE CONCEPT, BUT I THINK IT'S, IT'S THE RIGHT DIRECTION TO GO IN.
AND THAT I THINK GREG HAD A THOUGHT HE WANTED TO SHARE AS WELL.
MIGHT HAVE ADDRESSED IT, YOU KNOW.
WELL, I WAS JUST GONNA, UH, TAG ON A THOUGHT ABOUT THE PUBLIC-PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS 'CAUSE YEAH.
THAT THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT, WHAT WOULD HAVE TO HAPPEN.
I THINK WE JUST HAVE TO BE REALLY CLEAR AND THAT, YOU KNOW, THIS ISN'T, ISN'T GOOD JUST MATERIALIZE BECAUSE YOU HAVE A PLAN THAT SAYS, YOU KNOW, WE WANT TO DO IT.
AND, YOU KNOW, THE CITY HAS MADE QUITE A BIT OF REALLY GOOD INVESTMENT IN PUBLIC STREETSCAPE.
UM, BUT THIS TAKES A, A STEP BEYOND THAT.
UM, WE, WE NEED TO KIND OF HELP CHANGE SOME OF THE MARKET DYNAMICS HERE.
AND PART OF THAT INVOLVES, YOU KNOW, UM, MORE AGGRESSIVE USE INCENTIVES AND WE GO INTO SOME DEPTH ON THAT.
UM, BUT ONE OF THE REASONS BESIDES THE FACT IS POTENTIALLY YOU'RE A REALLY BRIGHT SITE TO HELP DRIVE THIS, UM, THE WATERFRONT AREA.
A LOT OF THAT, A LOT OF THAT LAND, ESPECIALLY NORTH OF TEXAS, IS CITY OWNED, YOU KNOW, HOSPITAL SITE.
AND THERE'S, UH, SEVERAL ACRES THERE THAT YOU COULD, UM, AGAIN, SOME OF IT'S IN THE FLOODPLAIN, SO YOU HAVE TO FACTOR THAT IN.
BUT THAT'S A SITE THAT ALREADY IS CITY EL THAT A DEVELOPER, I BELIEVE WOULD BE INTERESTED IN, IN DEVELOPING BECAUSE OF ITS PROXIMITY TO OBVIOUSLY THE
UH, THEY PROBABLY WOULD BE A LOT MORE INTERESTED IN IF THEY KNEW THAT THERE WAS A PLAN TO DEVELOP THE TOWN SQUARE AS WELL, SOME OF THE POINTS FARTHER EAST.
BUT YEAH, THIS, THIS DOES, YOU KNOW, IN FULL DISCLOSURE, IT, UH, YOU KNOW, IT, IT RECOGNIZES THE CITIES YOU HAVE TO DO SOME THINGS DIFFERENTLY TO, TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN AND DEFINITELY INVOLVES AN ENTITY.
UM, YOU'VE CREATED AN ENTITY LIKE A CDC OR DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION TO A PUBLIC PRIVATE NONPROFIT TO HELP DRIVE SOME OF THESE DEALS UNTIL THE MARKET AND KIND OF GET ITS OWN TRACTION GOING.
BUT YEAH, SO IT, IT'S, IT'S A, IT'S A HEAVY LIFT, BUT YOU KNOW, A LOT OF CITIES DO IT AND, UH, THERE ARE A LOT OF CITIES THAT WERE A LOT WORSE OFF THAN BAYTOWN THAN HAVE DONE SOME PRETTY AMAZING THINGS BY HAVING A VERY KIND OF PROACTIVE, AGGRESSIVE, UM, STRATEGY IN TERMS OF HOW YOU REDEVELOP.
SO, BUT THE POINTS ABOUT PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS ARE, WERE SPOT ON.
I THINK IT'S A GREAT, UM, I THINK IT'S NEEDED.
WE ALL LOVE GOING TO TEXAS AVENUE.
MOST OF US SHOW UP FOR ANY EVENT THAT'S AROUND TOWN SQUARE AND WOULD
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STAY LONGER.AND I THINK IT WOULD BE A BIG BOOST FOR THE STUDENTS AT, AT LEE COLLEGE AND THE ADULTS.
UM, I LOVE THE IDEA AND, AND UNDERSTANDING THE, THE FLOODPLAIN, THE DRIVE UNDER GARAGES, BECAUSE THERE IS NO PARKING RIGHT,
WELL, GREG, YOU KNOW, I'M ALWAYS SHOW UP TO YOUR MEETINGS, SO NICE TO SEE YOU AGAIN.
I DON'T KNOW WHERE TO LOOK TO TALK TO YOU, BUT
BECAUSE THOSE ARE WHERE I GET HUNG UP IN EVERY THESE ONES.
THIS IS WHERE I GET HUNG UP IN EVERY MEETING.
THIS IS NOT A FEASIBLE OR LOGICAL IDEA FOR THE WATERFRONT.
WHAT I THINK YOU COULD DO IS MAYBE JUST SHOW KAYAKING OR SHOW A BEAUTIFUL PROTECTED WETLAND OR SOMETHING OF THAT NATURE, BUT TO BRING BOATS, THERE'S SO DENSE.
BUT TO BRING BOATS INTO THERE, I MEAN, I TOLD YOU OUR OFFICE RIGHT THERE IN THAT BUILDING.
SO EVER SINCE THE FIRST TIME I SAW YOU, I HAVE LOOKED AT THAT
LIKE, YOU KNOW, SO I WOULD THINK THAT THIS IS A BEAUTIFUL PLAN.
I LOVE THE IDEA, BUT I REALLY THINK WE NEED TO BE VERY REALISTIC ABOUT HOW WE PORTRAY THIS WATERWAY, AND I THINK WE CAN MAKE IT BEAUTIFUL.
AND THEN YOUR NEXT SLIDE OVER THAT SHOWS PEOPLE WALKING NEXT TO WATER, ET CETERA.
I MEAN, I COULD SEE MYSELF AND MY FAMILY WALKING ALONG SOMETHING LIKE THIS, LOOKING AT A BEAUTIFUL PROTECTED WETLAND, ARE LOOKING AT JUST FIVE FEET OF WATER WHERE PEOPLE CAN SLIGHTLY KAYAK OR, OR SOMETHING, OR PADDLE BOAT OR, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
BUT I JUST THINK IT'S JUST INCREDIBLY UNREALISTIC TO CAST THE VISION THAT YOU HAVE FOR THE, THE WATERWAY WITH THESE BEAUTIFUL HALF A MILLION DOLLAR BOATS FLOATING INTO THAT MECK.
THESE WERE JUST THE IMAGES THAT WE, WE GRABBED, WE HAD AVAILABLE THAT, YOU KNOW, UM, THAT KIND OF GAVE MORE OF THE DEVELOPMENT SCALES WE'RE REALLY GOING WITH.
I, I, I DON'T DISAGREE WITH YOU THAT I DON'T SEE A VERY ENGINEERED WATERFRONT HERE WITH, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF SEA WALL DEVELOPMENT AND BLAH Y SO I WAS JUST REALLY USING THESE IMAGES TO, TO TRY TO CAPTURE THE SENSE OF STYLE AND SCALE OF DEVELOPMENT, NOT NECESSARILY HOW THE WATERFRONT WILL WORK.
SO, BUT I DON'T DISAGREE WITH YOU AT ALL, BUT THIS IS TOO URBAN TO, UM, UM, IT NEEDS TO BE A REAL SOFTER EDGE.
SO I, I AGREE WITH YOU TOTALLY.
AND THEN ALSO, UM, EMILIO, CAN YOU KIND OF SHARE WITH THE COMMISSIONERS THE PROBLEM WITH THE WATER AND UTILITIES AND HOW IT'S NOT BEEN DESIGNED PROPERLY AND THAT'S WHY DEVELOPMENT IS VERY HARD TO COME TO THE AREA.
I MEAN, CAN YOU KINDA SHARE SO EVERYBODY'S KIND OF EDUCATED AND UP TO SPEED? SURE.
UH, SO IT STARTS FROM THE BEGINNING, OBVIOUSLY, WHEN THIS AREA WAS ESTABLISHED, UM, YOU KNOW, INFRASTRUCTURE EXPECTATIONS, BUILDING CODES, THINGS LIKE THAT WERE VERY DIFFERENT AT THE TIME.
UH, A LOT OF THOSE WERE MERCANTILE TYPES OF SHOPS, OFFICES, PROFESSIONAL THINGS, NOT NECESSARILY, UH, RESTAURANTS.
AND WHEN YOU START TO LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, TODAY'S BUILDING CODES AND FIRE CODES AND THINGS LIKE THAT REQUIRE VERY SPECIFIC DEVELOPMENT REQUIREMENTS FOR PUBLIC SAFETY, FOR GOOD REASON, OF COURSE.
BUT, UM, YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT THE INFRASTRUCTURE, UM, THERE, YOU KNOW, HOW IT'S LAID OUT, UM, YOU KNOW, WHERE IT IS ON ONE SPECIFIC SIDE OF THE STREET, WELL, THAT ADDS A LOT OF COST, YOU KNOW, BORING, GETTING UNDERNEATH THE STREET, ALL THAT COORDINATION WITH UTILITIES SHUTTING THEM OFF IT, IT'S VERY INVOLVED.
SO, UM, AND IT ADDS EXPENSE TO ANY TYPE OF PROJECT.
UH, NOT TO MENTION THERE'S ALREADY EXPENSE IN UPGRADING A FACILITY, BRINGING IT UP TO CODE.
SO, UM, THAT'S AGAIN, THAT'S WHY OUT CERTAIN OUTCOMES HAVEN'T MATERIALIZED TO DATE.
AND SO, UM, IT'S GONNA TAKE A COMBINATION OF ACQUISITION, PROACTIVE KIND OF, UM, YOU KNOW, PIECEMEALING OF PROPERTIES IN ORDER TO PRESENT IT, TO MAKE IT, YOU KNOW, FEASIBLE FOR A DEVELOPER TO DO SOMETHING AT SCALE.
AND I THINK SCALE IS PROBABLY THE MAIN UNDERCURRENT OF, OF THIS PLAN IS HOW DO YOU BRING AN OPPORTUNITY TO MARKET AT THE RIGHT SCALE TO WHERE IT CAN ACTUALLY START TO TIP, TIP THINGS, UM, IN, IN A CERTAIN DIRECTION.
AND THEN MY LAST COMMENT IS, I MEAN, IF IT'S GOING TO CITY COUNCIL IS THE BEST THING THAT'S HAPPENED AT TEXAS AVENUE IS THE ACTUAL CITY, THE PARK ERECTS AMAZING JOB WITH
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THE PARK.UM, BRUNSON IS BEAUTIFUL, A LITTLE BIT UNDERUTILIZED, BUT I KNOW THAT'S BEING READJUSTED.
AND THEN I, THE THE WATER DEPARTMENT, LIKE, I MEAN, IF THE CITY COULD MAYBE THINK ABOUT OTHER DEPARTMENTS, ET CETERA, AND, AND INVEST MORE DOWN THERE, BECAUSE THAT DRIVES PEOPLE DOWN THERE.
AND I THINK IT WILL ALSO DRIVE THE DEVELOPMENT.
I THINK IF THE CITY STEPS UP, THEN I THINK THIS COULD BE REALIZED.
AND THE CITY'S DONE A GREAT JOB.
I REALLY APPLAUD THEM FOR WHAT THEY'VE DONE DOWN THERE.
AND SOMETHING ELSE I'LL SHARE IS THAT FROM AN INFRASTRUCTURE STANDPOINT IS THAT WE'VE RECENTLY CITY COUNCIL DESIGNATED PART OF THIS AREA, UM, AS A TS OUR SECOND TS FOR THE CITY.
SO THAT'S GONNA ESTABLISH A SPECIAL REVENUE FUND FOR FUTURE PROPERTY INCREMENTAL VALUE IN THIS AREA.
UM, THAT WILL ALLOW US TO MAKE INVESTMENTS, PUBLIC INVESTMENTS IN INFRASTRUCTURE, UM, TO KIND OF ADDRESS SOME OF THE SHORTCOMINGS THAT WE'RE, WE'RE RUNNING INTO NOW.
SO IT'S NOT A NEW, IT'S NOT AN EXTRA TAX, IT'S NOT A NEW TAX, IT'S JUST TAKING THAT EXISTING PROPERTY TAX AND ISOLATING IT TO THE SPECIFIC AREA FOR A CERTAIN PERIOD.
SO THAT IS A TOOL THAT WE'VE IMPLEMENTED AND HOPEFULLY IT WILL AID OUR EFFORTS IN REDEVELOPMENT.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS? UH, I'M ENCOURAGED TO SEE THIS.
UH, I REMEMBER AS A SMALL CHILD GOING, MY GRANDPARENTS DOWN THERE, TO YOUR POINT, IT WAS
AND UH, THIS IS EVEN HALF OF WHAT SUGARLAND HAS.
WITH THE DRAW AND THE ENTERTAINMENT AND PEOPLE, IT'S A DESTINATION.
THAT'S WHAT I HOPE TO SEE THIS WOULD BE.
WELL, THANK YOU FOR YOUR FEEDBACK.
UH, SO THIS WILL GO TO COUNCIL, UM, FOR A KIND OF A SIMILAR FORMAT TO THIS ON THE, UH, 25TH OF THIS MONTH.
SO THEY'LL TALK ABOUT IT DISCUSSION, INFORMAL DISCUSSION AT A WORK SESSION RIGHT BEFORE THEIR REGULAR MEETING.
UM, BUT THEN FOLLOWING THAT, UH, IN MAY, WE'RE GONNA BRING HIM BACK TO P AND Z AT THE, UH, MAY 21ST MEETING FOR Y'ALL'S, UH, FORMAL RECOMMENDATION TO COUNSEL.
OTHER COMMENTS? UH, WE'LL CLOSE THIS DISCUSSION.
[a. Receive a report from the Planning Director.]
DIRECTOR'S REPORT FOR US.IF I CAN GET THE, JOHN, IF YOU CAN HELP ME WITH THE SCREENS.
WELL, THIS IS VERY UNUSUAL FOR ME TO BE GIVEN THE DIRECTOR'S REPORT OR ACTING AS THE ACTING SECRETARY TO THE COMMISSION.
BUT, UH, JUST THE PERFECT STORM OF FRANKIE'S DEPARTURE, RYAN ATTENDING A CONFERENCE THAT MARTIN WAS SUPPOSED TO ATTEND AND MARTIN'S OUT, UM, SICK FOR A WHILE.
SO, UM, UNUSUAL FOR ME, BUT HAPPY TO KIND OF, UH, SUBSTITUTE FOR THEM AND, UH, BE HERE WITH Y'ALL.
SO THANK YOU FOR AN INTERESTING EXPERIENCE.
UM, JUST WANNA BRING SOME THINGS TO Y'ALL'S ATTENTION.
UM, AT THE LAST, UH, MEETING, UH, FROM LAST MONTH, SOME OF THOSE ITEMS THAT WE'RE FORTUNATE TO ADVANCE, UH, MADE IT TO THE, UH, COUNCIL MEETING, UH, I BELIEVE AT THEIR MARCH 23RD MEETING.
SO, UH, ONE OF THOSE ITEMS BEING THE, UH, REZONE OF, UH, 42 0 8 CROSBY, CEDAR BAYOU FROM OR TO SF TWO, THAT IF YOU RECALL, THAT'S NORTH OF THE, UM, KIND OF SUBJECT PROPERTY THAT WE WERE DISCUSSING EARLIER.
UM, SO THAT WAS APPROVED, UH, BY CITY COUNCIL AS WELL AS A PUD, UM, EXPIRATION.
UH, WE HAVE A, A CLAUSE IN OUR, OUR ORDINANCE FOR PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENTS THAT THEY EXPIRE AFTER A CERTAIN PERIOD OF INACTIVITY.
SO WE'VE REMOVED THAT, UM, THROUGH A TAX AMENDMENT.
AND SO FROM FROM NOW ON, PUDS DO NOT EXPIRE.
UH, THEY REMAIN WITH THE PROPERTY UNTIL ZONING IS CHANGED AGAIN.
UM, AND THEN LASTLY, STAFF UPDATE.
AGAIN, SO SAD TO SEE FRANKIE GO, UH, UNFORTUNATELY I HAVE TO AND FORMULA THAT I WILL ALSO BE DEPARTING THE CITY OF BAYTOWN.
AND THIS WILL BE MY FINAL PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING, BUT IT WAS AN INTERESTING ONE, CERTAINLY SERVING IN THIS CAPACITY.
BUT I WILL BE, UH, GOING TO THE CITY OF CLEVELAND, TEXAS AT OHIO, UH, SERVING AS THEIR DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT.
APPRECIATE Y'ALL'S, Y'ALL, UH, Y'ALLS TIME OVER THE YEARS.
BUT
SO WITH THAT, THAT CONCLUDES OUR, I'M GONNA MISS YOU LIO.
WITH NO MORE ITEMS TO ADDRESS.
WE'LL CLOSE THIS MEETING PLEASE.
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I'M OLD.