* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. TOWN POLICE ADVISORY COMMITTEE. [00:00:01] TODAY IS TUESDAY, JANUARY 23RD, 2024. HAPPY NEW YEAR, EVERYONE. 6:00 PM UH, WE ARE IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBER, CITY HALL 24 0 1 MARKET STREET, BAYTOWN, TEXAS SEVEN SEVEN FIVE TWO ZERO. UH, WE CALL TO ORDER AND ANNOUNCE QUORUM AT SIX ZERO 2:00 PM THERE IT IS. ALL RIGHT. SO NOW WE'RE JUST GONNA GO DOWN THE AGENDA. THE FIRST ITEM IS CITIZEN COMMENTS. WE DO NOT HAVE ANYBODY. UM, SO WE WILL MOVE ON [a. Consider approving the minutes of the Baytown Police Advisory Committee Meeting held on September 26, 2023.] TO THE NEXT, WHICH IS MINUTES. UH, THIS IS WHERE WE CONSIDER APPRO THE MINUTES OF THE BAYTOWN POLICE ADVISORY COMMITTEE MEETING HELD ON. WOW. SEPTEMBER 26TH, 2023. WHERE ARE THE METS? OH, WE HAVE, WERE THEY EMAILED TO US? ATTACHED IN THE AGENDA? THEY WERE ATTACHED IN THE AGENDA. ON THE AGENDA. WE GOT IN THE EMAIL PACKET. LET'S SEE. ON YOUR SCREENS IS YOUR, IT'S PULLED UP. THAT'S JUST THIS RIGHT HERE. ONE SECTIONED DOWN. OH, THERE. NOPE. AH, WRONG WAY. NOPE. HERE. LET'S SEE. YEAH, LET'S SEE. EXCUSE ME. UM, OH, NO, THAT'S NOT US. MINE ACTUALLY SAID MINUTES. , YOU HAVE THE WRONG SPECIAL. SPECIAL. OKAY. SPEED READING. THAT'S A GOOD THING. I WAS HOLDING THAT . WE WERE ABOUT TO DO OTHER THINGS, WEREN'T WE? ? UM, SO APPARENTLY THEY ARE ON OUR SCREENS FOR US TO REVIEW FROM THE LAST ONE. UM, DO WE HAVE AN ANY MOTION TO I MOVE? MOTION TO ACCEPT? I'LL SECOND. SO WE HAVE A FIRST YES. AND A SECOND. FIRST BY RICHARD. SECOND BY KY. DR. KY. NO, I KNOW YOU . IT'S BEEN A WHILE. UM, ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? AND GOOD? EXCELLENT. ALRIGHT, SO THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS CITIZENS INPUT. DO WE HAVE ANYBODY WHO HAS SIGNED UP TO DIS TALK? OKAY. SO WE WILL MOVE ON TO [a. Receive and discuss community input obtained by the Baytown Police Advisory Committee Members.] COMMUNITY INPUT. DO, DOES THAT MATTER? DO ANYBODY? NO ONE SIGNED UP. OKAY. DO ANYBODY, UM, HAVE ANYTHING THEY WANNA BRING FORTH AS A COMMUNITY MEMBER ON BEHALF OF THEIR DISTRICTS? NOT MYSELF. NOT THAT I KNOW ANYONE. I APPRECIATE YOUR INPUT ON MY PARK CAR. YOU'RE WELCOME. . THAT IS HER COMMUNITY INPUT FOR THE DAY. . UM, OKAY, MOVING ON. WE'RE MOVING ON TO REPORTS. THIS IS [a. Receive a report and discuss the status of police outreach, community policing, officer training and policies and procedures.] WHERE WE RECEIVE A REPORT, DISCUSS THE STATUS OF POLICE OUTREACH, COMMUNITY POLICING OFFICER TRAINING, AND POLICIES AND PROCEDURES. THANK YOU. WHILE IT, WOW, THAT'S REALLY SENSITIVE TO TONIGHT, ISN'T IT? OKAY, I'M GONNA MOVE THIS OVER HERE. UM, I KNOW IT'S BEEN A WHILE SINCE WE MET, UM, BUT, UH, THERE'S REALLY BEEN PRETTY STEADY AND CONSISTENT ACTIVITY. UM, OUR STAFFING LEVELS REMAIN AT 96%. THAT'S A LITTLE BIT OF A MISNOMER BECAUSE NOW WE HAVE AN ADDITIONAL THREE OFFICERS THAT, UH, THAT WE'RE ALLOWED BRINGING OUR, UH, MAXIMUM, UH, UH, PERSONNEL, SWORN PERSONNEL STRENGTH UP TO 178. BUT, UH, BUT WE'RE DOING REALLY WELL. WE'VE GOT ANOTHER SIX APPLICANTS WHO ARE ADVANCING TO INTERVIEWS IN THE PROCESS. SO I AM REALLY HOPEFUL THAT WE'RE GONNA BE AT ABOUT 98, 90 9%, UH, PRETTY SOON. SO, UM, WE CONTINUE FOR OUR COLLABORATION, UH, PART, WE CAN CONTINUE TO PARTICIPATE IN OUR MONTHLY SAFE SCHOOLS MEETING, UH, WITH THE G-C-C-I-S-D, UH, THEIR POLICE ATTEND AS WELL AS THE FIRE DEPARTMENT HERE FROM BAYTOWN. UM, AND I KNOW THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THE COMMUNITY WANTS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE STAY UP ON, THAT WE KEEP THOSE RELATIONSHIPS WORKING. AND IT, IT'S MORE THAN JUST THAT WE HAVE, UH, REALLY GOOD WORKING RELATIONSHIP WITH THEIR POLICE DEPARTMENT. UH, DAVIS SMITH, THEIR CHIEF AND I COMMUNICATE ON A REGULAR BASIS STILL. AND, UH, YOU KNOW, IN, IN, IN SOME CASES IT'S JUST BOUNCING IDEAS OFF OF EACH OTHER ON, UH, YOU KNOW, HOW TO, UH, IMPROVE THE QUALITY OF LIFE FOR OUR OFFICERS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. SO, SO WE'RE FORTUNATE TO HAVE THAT. UM, WE HAVE AVERAGED EIGHT MEETINGS A MONTH WITH APARTMENT MANAGERS FOCUSING ON THOSE WITH HIGHER INCIDENCES OF CRIMINAL ACTIVITY IN ORDER TO REDUCE CRIME. UM, AND THERE'S ONE VERY RECENT, UM, UH, UH, VICTORY IS IN OFFICER TOMMY KING, WHO, WHO MOST OF YOU KNOW, UM, HE SPEARHEADS UP OUR, UH, INITIATIVE FOR THIS WITH SEP TED COMMUNITY POLICING OR, OR CRIME PREVENTION THROUGH, UH, ENVIRONMENTAL DESIGN. AND HE HAS REALLY WORKED HARD TO [00:05:01] BUILD GOOD RELATIONSHIPS WITH APARTMENT MANAGERS, ESPECIALLY THOSE IN THE AREAS WHERE WE DO HAVE A, A HIGHER NEED FOR POLICE RESPONSE. AND, UM, A LOT OF THEM HAVE ADOPTED A, A, A FELONY ADDENDUM SO THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, FELONIES ARE, ARE COMMITTED THERE ON THE PROPERTY AND IT'S IMPACTING QUALITY OF LIFE. THE TENANTS UNDERSTAND THAT THEY HAVE THREE DAYS TO, TO VACATE THE PREMISES. ONE OF THE, UH, PROPERTIES ACTUALLY ENFORCED THIS. THEY HAD A HARD TIME GETTING A CONSTABLE'S OFFICE OUT TO SERVE THE WRIT OF POSSESSION. AND OFFICER KING WAS ACTUALLY ON SITE. HE WORKED WITH THE, UH, THE CONSTABLE'S OFFICE TO GET THEM OUT THAT DAY. UH, THEY WERE, THE, THE, THE TENANTS WERE EVICTED. AND THIS IS THE THING THAT I'M EXCITED ABOUT. OTHER TENANTS IN THAT APARTMENT COMPLEX WERE SO HAPPY THEY WERE ACTUALLY DANCING IN THEIR BREEZEWAYS AND OUT ON THE SIDEWALK TO SEE THESE PEOPLE LEAVE. MM-HMM . THAT'S HUGE. YEAH. THEY WERE SCARED. YEAH. THEY WERE LIVING IN FEAR OF, OF THIS ONE APARTMENT. WOW. THAT WAS BRINGING SO MUCH CRIMINAL ACTIVITY TO THAT PARTICULAR AREA. AND, YOU KNOW, IF OFFICER KING HADN'T TAKEN THAT EXTRA STEP, THAT EXTRA INITIATIVE TO REACH OUT TO ANOTHER LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCY AND LET THEM KNOW THAT WE REALLY NEEDED THEM TO, TO BUMP US TO THE TOP OF THE QUEUE AND HELP THESE PEOPLE, WELL, THE MANAGERS AND PROPERTY OWNERS MIGHT HAVE LOST FAITH IN THIS WHOLE PROCESS. SO IT MAY SOUND LIKE JUST ONE THING, BUT, BUT I BELIEVE THAT THAT'S THE, THE SPARK THAT STARTS THE FIRE. SO REALLY PROUD OF THEM FOR THAT. AND THE INITIATIVE THAT THAT, THAT HE TAKES ON THAT STUFF. WHEN DID THAT START? WHEN DID THE EIGHT MEETINGS A MONTH START? UH, WE OFFICIALLY WITH THE, THE FISCAL YEAR BECAUSE WE SET A, A LIST OF GOALS THAT, UH, COMMAND STAFF THAT'S LIEUTENANTS, ASSISTANT CHIEFS, AND MYSELF, UM, UH, AGREED UPON. AND SO JANUARY 1ST? NO, OCTOBER. OCTOBER, YEAH. OH, THAT'S YOUR FISCAL YEAR. SO WHAT WE DID WAS WE, WE ARE MOVING INTO FULL BLOWN PERFORMANCE MANAGEMENT, PERFORMANCE BUDGETING, SO THAT ALL OF OUR ACTIVITIES ARE, INITIATIVES ARE TIED TO THE MONEY THAT'S GIVEN TO US. AND WE CAN START SHOWING SOME, SOME RESULTS. AND, UH, WE CAN HAVE SOME GOALS AND OBJECTIVES TO WORK TOWARD. NOT ONLY THAT, I MEAN, IT'S GREAT FOR OUR CITIZENS TO BE ABLE TO SEE IT, BUT IT'S ALSO REALLY GOOD FOR OUR POLICE OFFICERS TO BE ABLE TO SEE THE FRUITS OF THEIR LABOR AND TO, TO SEE WHAT KIND OF DIFFERENCE THEY'RE MAKING. SO, UM, THESE, UH, THESE MEETINGS WITH APARTMENT MANAGERS, UH, THAT WAS, WAS ONE OF OUR OBJECTIVES AND OUR GOALS TO, TO IMPROVE THE QUALITY OF LIFE AND STUFF. SO, UM, SO THEY'RE, THEY'RE, THEY'RE, THEY'RE MOVING. RIGHT. ALONG WITH THAT, UM, HAS OFFICER KING SAID ANYTHING ABOUT, 'CAUSE WE HAD TALKED BEFORE ABOUT BEING IN CONTACT WITH THE APARTMENT MM-HMM . UM, TO SEE IF WE COULD HAVE MEETINGS ON PREMISES. HAS ANYTHING LIKE THAT EVER BEEN MENTIONED? SARGE, HAS HE MADE ANY HEADWAY WITH THAT? I KNOW WE'VE TRIED ON SOME PLACES MM-HMM . AND THEY HAVEN'T BEEN INTERESTED. RIGHT. I HAVEN'T, I HAVEN'T SPOKE TO HIM ABOUT IT YET. OKAY. BECAUSE I WAS, I THINK I WAS WAITING ON HIM. OKAY. AND, UH, IF Y'ALL WANT ME TO MOVE FORWARD WITH IT, WE WE COULD DEFINITELY DO THAT. YEAH. MY, MY CONVERSATIONS WITH THE APARTMENT MANAGERS, THEY WERE EITHER CAUTIOUS ABOUT HAVING IT ON SITE AND THEY, THE PEOPLE THERE AND, YOU KNOW, EVENINGS AND ALL THAT, OR THEY DIDN'T HAVE FACILITIES. SO WE'D HAVE TO HAVE SOME KIND OF A FACILITY THAT WE COULD BURDEN THAT NUMBER OF PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, NOT THAT WE'RE A HUGE GROUP, BUT YOU'D HAVE TO HAVE SOME KIND OF FACILITY. SO I WENT THROUGH, I THINK ABOUT 12 OF THE COMPLEXES THAT I GOT A LIST FROM YOU. AND THERE WAS JUST SOMETHING WITH EACH ONE THAT THEY EITHER WEREN'T INTERESTED OR THEY COULDN'T, OR THEY'D HAVE TO GET CORPORATE PERMISSION, THOSE KIND OF THINGS. SO IT JUST, IT DIDN'T, DIDN'T HAVE A REAL WARM RECEPTION. THEY DIDN'T SAY NO NECESSARILY, BUT THEY, THEY SEEMED TO HAVE A LOT OF, OF BARRIERS TO CROSS MAY. IS IT POSSIBLE, I'M SORRY, LEMME ASK THIS. IF I CAN SAY, IF I CAN GET SOMEBODY TO SAY YES, DIFFERENT COMPLEXES AND STUFF, OBVIOUSLY IT'D BE EASY TO PUT US IN THERE, BUT HOW MANY, HOW MUCH ROOM WOULD Y'ALL WANT TO ALLOW FOR CITIZENS? 10. I MEAN, WE'VE, I'VE NEVER SEEN FIVE SHOW UP, MAYBE FIVE AT THE MOST, BUT IF WE WERE IN THEIR BACKYARD, YEAH. IT'S SO HARD TO PREDICT. YEAH. IT'S REALLY HARD TO PREDICT. WHEN WE WERE AT THE COLLEGE, WE HAD A, WE HAD PROBABLY 10 15, YEAH. 10 58. YEAH. SO, BUT, BUT THAT WAS IN A HUGE ENVIRONMENT. UM, YOU KNOW, I I WOULD SAY IF, IF WE WERE GONNA GO INTO A FACILITY, IF THEY HAD A ROOM THAT WOULD HOLD AND, AND SOME OF THEM DO HOLD 20, 30 PEOPLE, SOMETHING LIKE THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE FINE. OKAY. I MEAN, WE COULD JUST DO CHAIRS AND TABLES. IT WOULDN'T HAVE TO BE ANYTHING FANCY AT ALL. UM, AND JUST, YOU KNOW, AS, AS AS CONVERSATIONAL WE CAN MAKE IT. OKAY. AND IS IT EVEN POSSIBLE TO, TO CONSIDER GOING TO THE APARTMENT COMPLEX WHERE THE, THAT APARTMENT WAS REMOVED? MM-HMM . OH YEAH. WE CAN MAYBE PEOPLE WILL BE A LITTLE BIT MORE [00:10:01] OPEN, OPEN TO IF THEY HAVE THE ROOM, WE COULD MAKE THAT HAPPEN TOMORROW. YEAH. THEY'D BE OPEN TO TALK ABOUT SOME THINGS. KING, NOW KING HAS SUCH A GOOD RELATIONSHIP WITH THAT NEW MANAGER THERE. AND, UH, ANYTHING HE ASK THEM TO DO AS FAR AS SAFETY AND SECURITY WISE, 'CAUSE HE APPROACHES IT LIKE, WE WANNA MAKE YOUR TENANTS THAT ARE GOOD TENANTS THAT PAY THEIR RENT ON TIME AND DO WHAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO DO, AND THEY'RE NOT BRINGING CRIME IN. WE WANNA MAKE THEM HAPPY. RIGHT. AND IF HE ASKS FOR SOMETHING, HEY, WE WANNA KEEP 'EM SAFE AS WELL. 'CAUSE THEY'RE NOT GONNA BE HAPPY. THEIR QUALITY OF LIFE'S NOT GONNA BE GOOD IF THEY'RE NOT SAFE. SO WHEN KING GOES THROUGH AND HE CHECKS THE BUSHES AND THE HEIGHTS AND THE LIGHTS AND ALL THAT STUFF, AND HE GIVES IT TO 'EM, THE WAY HE APPROACHES 'EM MAKES 'EM JUMP ON BOARD. AND SHE'S BEEN IN ARGUMENTS WITH CORPORATE SAYING, WE NEED THIS MONEY. WE NEED TO GET THIS FIXED. AND THEY END UP GIVING IT UP. HE EVEN CALLED CORPORATE AT THAT PARTICULAR COMPLEX, AND THEY'RE WORKING WITH US AND FIXING WHAT WE ASK 'EM TO FIX. SO THAT'S GOOD. WILL THAT EVER BE A PRIME GRADE A PROPERTY? NO, BUT THE PEOPLE THERE STILL MATTER. SO, AND THEY'RE SAFE. WE'RE GONNA DO WHAT WE CAN DO TO KEEP 'EM SAFE. YEAH. SO, YEAH. AND, YOU KNOW, IN THOSE PROPERTIES, THIS WHOLE PROGRAM IS DESIGNED SO THAT THE GOOD PEOPLE WHO ARE THERE CAN HAVE A GOOD QUALITY OF LIFE. IT MAY, YOU KNOW, THEY MAY NEVER HAVE THE, THE AMENITIES THAT SOME OF THE BRAND NEW APARTMENT COMPLEXES DO, BUT IT'S RECOGNIZING THEIR, THEIR DIGNITY AS HUMAN BEINGS AND AS CITIZENS THAT, THAT, THAT WE'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR. AND ULTIMATELY, YOU KNOW, WE HAD THIS DISCUSSION, UM, IN ONE OF OUR STAFF MEETINGS RECENTLY, IS YOU CAN HAVE AN AREA THAT'S COMPLETELY FREE OF CRIME STATISTICALLY, BUT IF THAT FEAR OF CRIME EXISTS MM-HMM . THOSE PEOPLE, IT'S JUST AS REAL. AND THERE'S THE, THE, THE QUALITY OF LIFE IS, IS NIL. UM, I HATE RIDING THROUGH RESIDENTIAL AREAS IN ANY CITY I GO TO AND SEEING BARS ON DOORS AND WINDOWS OF PEOPLE'S HOMES, THAT'S JUST SUCH A BAD SIGNAL. AND WHAT, UH, AND, AND DON'T LET SARGE FOOL YOU BECAUSE HE'S RIDING THERE WITH HIS TROOPS DOING THIS STUFF TOO. UH, BUT WHAT THEY'RE DOING IS MAKING A DIFFERENCE. AND WE'VE GOT SOME INERTIA TO OVERCOME WITH IT, UH, JUST BECAUSE IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME SINCE THERE'S BEEN ANY INTEREST IN WORKING WITH THE, THE APARTMENT MANAGERS. BUT HE'S RIGHT. WE WANT THESE PEOPLE TO FEEL COMFORTABLE. WE WANT THEM TO FEEL SAFE. AND, YOU KNOW, WE WANT THE, WE WANT THE APARTMENTS TO BE MAKING MONEY TOO. I MEAN, IT CONTRIBUTES TO EVERYBODY. SO, BUT YEAH, I'LL WORK ON THAT IF Y'ALL WANT ME TO ON THAT PARTICULAR COMPLEX. THAT'D BE, I MEAN, THAT MM-HMM . AND DR. STANSKI, DID THAT LADY THAT REACHED OUT TO YOU ON THE AIR CONDITIONER THAT WE FINALLY GOT AN AIR CONDITIONER? YES. DOES SHE STILL LIVE THERE? BECAUSE THAT'S THE SAME COMPLEX. OH, REALLY? OKAY. I I THINK SHE DOES. I HAVEN'T HEARD THAT SHE LEFT. OKAY. SHE WAS, I TALKED TO HER ON THE PHONE. SUCH A SWEET LADY. MM-HMM . I, I WAS ACTUALLY, I FELT GOOD IN MY HEART TO BE ABLE TO HELP HER ON THAT ONE. YES. VERY SWEET LADY WITH SWEET KIDS. SO YEAH. SO THAT WAS A VICTORY FOR US. MM-HMM . WE CONTINUE TO DO THAT STUFF. UH, SAFE RIDERS PROGRAM WHERE WE GIVE INSTRUCTION ON CAR SEATS, HOW TO USE THEM, INSTALL THEM PROPERLY, AND EVEN DO THE FIRST INSTALL AS WELL AS GIVEAWAY CAR SEATS. JUST IN THIS MONTH ALONE, UH, WE'VE GIVEN OUT 11 FREE CAR SEATS TO FAMILIES THAT DIDN'T HAVE THEM. UM, SO THERE'S, THERE'S 11, 11 CHILDREN OUT THERE THAT ARE SAFER THAN THEY WERE, UH, BEFORE THEY CAME TO THESE, UH, THESE CLASSES. UM, 100 FAMILIES. UH, THIS WAS BEFORE THE END OF THE YEAR, ONE 100 FAMILIES SORT OF PRESENTATION ON THE DANGERS OF VAPING AT THE FAMILY NIGHT, WHICH WAS SPONSORED BY SAN JACINTO ELEMENTARY SCHOOL. UM, YOU KNOW, VAPING IS A, IS A BIG DEAL. UM, IT'S, UH, THE, A LOT OF THE KIDS THINK THAT IT'S, THAT IT'S HARMLESS AND IT'S NOT, IT CAUSES MORE PROBLEMS THAN SMOKING CIGARETTES IN SOME CASES. SO, UM, UH, CRIME PREVENTION OFFICERS HAVE ALSO WORKED WITH OVER 12 LOCAL BUSINESSES REGARDING ISSUES AND CONCERNS WITH HOMELESS PERSONS TRESPASSING ON THEIR PROPERTY, WHICH THIS HAS BECOME A, UH, A BIG ISSUE HERE IN THE CITY FOR US. UM, AND, AND AGAIN, I GOTTA GIVE, UH, SHOUT OUT TO OFFICER KING ON THAT BECAUSE HE'S BEEN OUT THE ONE OUT IN THE COMMUNITY DOING THIS. UM, UH, BUT WE ALSO WORK WITH THE AREA HOMELESS TO ASSIST THEM IN LOCATING SHELTER, SHELTER FOR THOSE WHO WILL PARTICIPATE. UM, OUR VICTIM SERVICES UNIT, WHICH, UH, EXCUSE ME. TYPICALLY WHAT YOU'LL SEE THEM DO IS WORK WITH VICTIMS OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE AND THAT SORT OF THING. BUT THEY ALSO DO SOME, UH, DO SOME WORK WITH OUR, OUR AREA HOMELESS AS WELL. UH, DURING THE THANKSGIVING HOLIDAYS, THEY PROVIDED, UM, UH, A MEAL OF TURKEY SANDWICH AND STUFF LIKE THAT FOR SOME, FOR, FOR OUR HOMELESS. IN EXCHANGE, THEY GAVE THEM, UM, THEY MADE SURE THAT THEY WERE REGISTERED, [00:15:01] THAT WE KNEW WHAT AREAS THAT THEY WERE, UH, TYPICALLY LOCATED IN THE CITY IN CASE WE NEEDED TO LOCATE 'EM, UH, FOR FAMILY OR MAYBE AS A WITNESS OF A CRIME, UM, OR, OR MAYBE WORKING WITH HARRIS HEALTH TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY GET FOLLOW UP ON MEDICATIONS AND STUFF LIKE THAT. ESPECIALLY WITH THE MENTAL HEALTH STUFF. UM, AND, UH, YOU KNOW, FOR THOSE WHO WERE INTERESTED, UH, THEY ALSO GAVE THEM INFORMATION ON WHERE THEY COULD GET OFF THE STREETS. UH, SO, YOU KNOW, THOSE ARE THE EFFORTS THAT WE'RE MAKING ON THAT END AS WELL. UM, OUR TRAINING, UM, UH, BAYTOWN POLICE OFFICERS HAVE SO FAR, YEAR TO DATE, HAVE RECEIVED A TOTAL OF 9,060 HOURS OF TRAINING, UH, FROM OCTOBER 1ST TO PRESENT AND, UH, DURING THE SAME TIME PERIOD. THIS IS ALL SINCE OCTOBER 1ST, THE START OF THE FI FISCAL YEAR. UM, WE HAVE THREE OFFICERS THAT HAVE RECEIVED THEIR ADVANCED PEACE OFFICER'S LICENSE. UM, ONE OFFICER HAS RECEIVED THEIR INTERMEDIATE, UH, LICENSE AND TWO, THEIR MASTER PEACE OFFICER'S LICENSE. UM, OUR ACADEMY HAS PROVIDED 7,209 TRAINING HOURS. UM, AND THAT'S TO BAYTOWN OFFICERS AS WELL AS AREA OFFICERS. UM, TOTAL COURSES THAT WE HAVE PUT ON IS, UH, 22 WITH A TOTAL OF 264 STUDENTS. UH, SO THE ACADEMY IS CONTINUING TO PUT REALLY GOOD TRAINING PRODUCTS OUT THERE. AND, UH, T COLE, THE COMMISSION ON LAW ENFORCEMENT, UH, HAS RECENTLY ADDED ANOTHER 58 HOURS OF MANDATED TRAINING FOR US. NOW, THAT'S IN ADDITION TO THE TRAINING THAT, THAT WE REQUIRE WITH THE, WITH THE DEPARTMENT. THAT'S IN ADDITION TO, UM, OTHER TRAININGS THAT ARE REQUIRED DURING A TRAINING UNIT OR A TRAINING CYCLE. UM, AS WELL AS THE, THE COURSES THAT WE OFFER THROUGH HGAC ON A GRANT WHERE THEY, UH, WHERE THEY PAY FOR THE COURSES AND REIMBURSE THE CITY FOR THE COURSES THAT WE TEACH TO, TO AREA LAW ENFORCEMENT. UM, THE, UH, THE ACTIVE SHOOTER RESPONSE REQUIREMENT IS 16 HOURS WITH EIGHT HOURS OF, UH, REGULAR OR ANNUAL, UH, RECERTIFICATIONS, UM, FINDING WELLNESS AND BUILDING A HEALTHIER LIFE. THIS IS FOR THE LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER, UH, TO CREATE BALANCE TO TEACH OFFICERS HOW TO DEAL WITH STRESS, THAT SORT OF THING. AND THEN A TRAUMA-INFORMED APPROACH TO SEXUAL ASSAULT INVESTIGATIONS. AND THESE ARE NOT, YOU KNOW, TWO, THREE HOUR COURSES. THESE ARE VERY IN-DEPTH COURSES. UM, I WAS A, ACTUALLY A, AN INSTRUCTOR IN ACTIVE SHOOTER RESPONSE YEARS AGO, AND WE USED THE SAME SYSTEM THAT WAS ACTUALLY DEVELOPED HERE IN TEXAS AND SAN MARCOS, THE ALERT PROGRAM. UM, AND, AND THAT'S PRETTY INTENSE. UH, BUT THESE OTHER TWO COURSES I RECENTLY TOOK THEM AND THEY ARE, UH, THEY'RE, THEY'RE DEEP . SO, UM, UH, I, I, I THINK THESE COURSES WILL, WILL HELP OUR OFFICERS, UH, PERFORM THEIR DUTIES WELL AND HOPEFULLY TEACH THEM TO MITIGATE STRESS AND FIND A WORK LIFE BALANCE THAT, UM, UNFORTUNATELY OLD TIMERS LIKE SARGE AND ME CAME INTO. THAT'S, THAT'S NOT WHAT WE WERE TAUGHT, YOU KNOW? SO, UM, I THINK WE'RE SETTING OUR NEWER OFFICERS UP AND EVEN THE ONES THAT ARE ON THE JOB NOW, TEACHING THEM NEW TRICKS, I THINK WE'RE SETTING THEM UP FOR MORE SUCCESS IN LIFE. AND SO THEIR QUALITY OF LIFE MEANS SOMETHING, ESPECIALLY AS THEY GET ON TOWARDS RETIREMENT AS WELL. AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE. THAT'S GOOD. IT'S BEEN A WHILE. YEAH. GOT GOOD STUFF DONE. ARE YOU GETTING ANY, ANY, UM, REACTION TO THE HOMELESS LADY THAT WAS POSSIBLY RUN OVER BEHIND THE MCDONALD'S? UM, AND THEY FINALLY TOOK HER TO THE HOSPITAL? SHE DIDN'T WANT TO GO ANYWHERE. IT HAD BEEN PRETTY MUCH IMMOBILE FOR A WEEK. I'VE SEEN SOME INFORMATION ON THAT. I, I SAW THAT, UH, THE, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT WAS, THEY FINALLY TOOK HER IN. RIGHT. UM, THAT, UH, THERE WAS SOME, SOME CONCERN ABOUT THE RESPONSE FROM THE MEDICS, BUT, UM, HONESTLY, I DON'T HAVE ENOUGH INFORMATION. AND, AND IF THAT'S SOMETHING UNDER CHIEF DOBSON, I WOULD, WOULD HESITATE TO, TO MM-HMM . SPECULATE ON IT, THAT RESPONSIBILITY. SO I DIDN'T KNOW IF, YOU KNOW, YOU'D BEEN CALLED IN BEFORE THE, YOU KNOW, BEFORE THE AMBULANCE. YEAH, I'M NOT SURE. I'D HAVE TO LOOK AND TELL YOU. I KNOW THAT OUR OFFICERS, UH, WHAT WE'VE, WHAT WE'VE ASKED THEM TO DO, ESPECIALLY DURING COLD WEATHER AND INCLEMENT WEATHER IS MM-HMM . IS, IS MAKE CONTACT WITH, UH, WITH FOLKS WHO ARE, WHO ARE OUTDOORS AND LET 'EM KNOW THERE'S OPTIONS. UM, OBVIOUSLY WE CAN'T VIOLATE THEIR FOURTH AMENDMENT RIGHTS, UM, WHICH BECOMES A DOUBLE-EDGED SWORD, UM, BECAUSE YOU WANNA HELP PEOPLE, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, UNLESS YOU HAVE CRIMINAL CHARGES, IT'S KIND OF HARD TO TAKE THEM OFF THE STREETS WILLINGLY. RIGHT. UM, YOU KNOW, THERE JUST SEEMED TO BE SOME COMMUNITY REACTION ON FACEBOOK AND STUFF. STUFF ABOUT YEAH. YOU KNOW, WHY WAS SHE ALLOWED TO STAY OUT THERE? YEAH. 'CAUSE APPARENTLY SHE RESPONDED SHE DIDN'T WANT TO GO. YEAH. YEAH. BUT WHEN IT SEEMED THAT SHE WAS INJURED. [00:20:01] YEAH. AND I SAW THAT PART TOO. YOU SAW THAT PART? YEAH, I DID. UM, AND, AND I HAVEN'T HAD A CHANCE TO TALK TO THE FIRE CHIEF ABOUT THAT EITHER. UM, YOU KNOW, THERE'S SOME, THERE'S SOME OTHER THINGS THAT WE DO IS, UH, YOU KNOW, WE ALSO LOOK AT IT FROM A MENTAL HEALTH PERSPECTIVE. MM-HMM . BUT AGAIN, THERE'S A THRESHOLD THERE BEFORE WE CAN TAKE SOMEBODY IN ON AN EMERGENCY DETENTION ORDER TOO, THAT WE HAVE TO MEET. UM, OFFICER ROBINSON ARE, ARE YOU ONE OF OUR CIT OFFICERS AS WELL? UH, WE'LL HAVE THE FORMAL TRAINING. I WILL HAVE THE FORMAL TRAINING COME MARCH, BUT I AM PART OF THE ICORP PROGRAM. OKAY. YEAH. AND I KNOW WHAT DR. KY IS REFERRING TO IS MS. STEPHANIE. OKAY. MM-HMM. AND SHE HAD CONTACT WITH HER DURING THE COLD. MM-HMM . I ACTUALLY WENT OUT THERE AND I WAS TRYING TO SEE HER AND MAKE SURE SHE WAS OKAY AT THAT TIME DURING THE FREEZE. YEAH. AND ONCE AGAIN, THE SAME THING. THE OUTREACH, THIS IS LOUD. THE OUTREACH FROM FAITH AND FAMILY WAS OUT THERE. UM, AND SO MYSELF AND ANOTHER OFFICER, WE WERE TRYING TO SEE IF SHE WAS OKAY AND EVERYTHING. AND THERE ARE CERTAIN QUESTIONS LIKE CHIEF STRINGER SAYING THAT IT HAS TO MEET THE CRITERIA. UM, SHE DID NOT WANT TO GO. UM, I TRIED COAXING, I TRIED EVERYTHING. OBVIOUSLY IT'S COLD. AND THEN A LOT OF TIMES PEOPLE, THE HOMELESS COMMUNITY DOES NOT WANT HELP FROM POLICE OFFICERS 'CAUSE THEY SEE THE UNIFORM. SO I WAS HOPING YOU HAVE THESE WONDERFUL PEOPLE OUT HERE. MM-HMM . UH, BUT STILL NOTHING. NOW AS FAR AS WHAT HAPPENED AFTER THAT, I DO NOT KNOW. I HEARD SHE'S IN THE HOSPITAL. YES. UH, I, I READ A LOT OF THE STUFF AND SOMETIMES I DON'T WANT TO , BUT, UM, AS FAR AS THAT TOO, AND ALSO LIKE CHIEF STRINGER SAYS, WE GO OUT AND EVEN THAT NIGHT WE WOULD GO AND CHECK ON THE OTHER PEOPLE THAT THEY SAY, HEY, WE ASKED, BUT THEY DIDN'T WANT TO. THERE WAS ONE GENTLEMAN, HE WAS ADAMANT NO. AND I WILL NOT SAY WHAT HE SAID, BUT, UH, HE WAS VERY ADAMANT ON NOT LEAVING. UM, AND PERFECTLY FINE. HE WAS. AND I'M, I'M SURE THERE'S A LOT THE HOMELESS, THE HOMELESS COMMUNITY DOES HAVE MENTAL ILLNESS. 'CAUSE A LOT OF TIMES WE DON'T SEE THAT THEY, WHAT PEOPLE WANT TO DEFINE AS NORMAL, WHO WOULD WANT TO LIVE LIKE THAT. BUT THERE'S A LOT OF UNDERLYING ISSUES THAT UNFORTUNATELY WE CANNOT FORCE THEM TO DO ANYTHING. MM-HMM . AND IT HAS A LOT, THERE'S A LOT OF LEGALITY ON MY END, YOU KNOW, EVEN AS A POLICE OFFICER, EVEN AS A CITIZEN TOO, YOU KNOW, THEY CAN ONLY DO SO MUCH. BUT WE ARE TRYING AND WE DO REACH OUT TO THEM WHENEVER WE'RE ASKED TO. MM-HMM . AND EVEN WHEN WE SEE THEM OURSELVES. AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE THE OTHER END OF THE COMMUNITY WHO IS UPSET WHEN THEY SEE THEM THERE BASED ON, YOU KNOW, WHAT CAUSES FOR THE BUSINESSES AND THE BUSINESS OWNERS. SO WE ALSO ARE ON A DOUBLE-EDGED SWORD. MM-HMM . BECAUSE WE JUST WATCH OUT MY FRONT DOOR OF MY OFFICE AND MM-HMM . THE WORLD WALKS BY . 'CAUSE THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE MM-HMM . THAT EITHER THEY'RE ON BICYCLES OR THEY'RE WALKING AND IT'S STAGGERING, WHATEVER. IT NOT, YOU KNOW, THEY DIDN'T SAY THEY DON'T BOTHER ANYBODY REALLY, BUT YOU FEEL BADLY FOR THEM. MM-HMM . ESPECIALLY IN THE COLD WEATHER. MM-HMM . YEAH. YEAH. AND, AND WE ALL DO AND DOING THE SAME THING AND THEY OFFERED THEM BLANKETS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. MM-HMM . AND WE WOULD STILL GO CHECK, MAKE SURE THEY'RE STILL OKAY THERE. ALRIGHT. ANYTHING ELSE? THANK YOU FOR THAT UPDATE. FIRSTHAND ACCOUNT. ANYTHING ELSE? OKAY. SO OUR NEXT THING, AND THANK YOU FOR THE REPORT. YES MA'AM. UM, THE NEXT THING THAT WE [a. Consider setting date, time and location for the next Baytown Police Advisory Committee meeting, along with any related tasks and processes. ] HAVE ON THE AGENDA IS SETTING THE NEXT MEETING. UM, THIS IS WHERE WE CONSIDER SETTING THE DATE, TIME, AND LOCATION FOR THE NEXT BPAC COMMITTEE MEETING ALONG WITH ANY RELATED TASKS AND PROCESSES WE HAVEN'T MET IN A LONG TIME. I DIDN'T REALIZE IT WAS SEPTEMBER. I GUESS IT FLEW BY. I THINK WE HAD OCTOBER AND WE WERE GONNA DO IT AT THE CHURCH. AND THEN I DON'T THINK WE HAD QUORUM OR SOMETHING. SOME, YEAH. YEAH. I THINK THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED. UM, I ENDED UP NOT BEING ABLE TO COME. UM, AND SO I THINK I WAS THE LAST PERSON FOR QUORUM ACTUALLY. UM, BUT I KNOW THAT WE, WE HAVE SOMEONE THAT'S GONNA COME, COUNCILWOMAN ALVARADO THAT'S GONNA COME AND TALK ABOUT EXPECTATIONS OF THIS GROUP. UM, AND SO I KNOW THAT'S ONE ITEM THAT WE WANT TO DISCUSS, UH, MOVING FORWARD IN TERMS OF WHAT IS, WHAT IS THE PURPOSE, WHAT IS THE EXPECTATION, JUST, JUST ANOTHER REVISION OR JUST TO REVISIT IT AND TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT IT. UH, AND SO WE'LL HAVE THAT ON THE AGENDA. IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE THAT WE WANNA HAVE ON THE AGENDA BEFORE WE DECIDE AND IT, SINCE SHE'S COMING, DO WE NEED TO HAVE IT HERE AT THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS? NO, IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE HERE IN THE COUNCIL. CHAMBERS COULD BE ANYWHERE. OKAY. DO WE WANNA HAVE IT AT THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS THIS UPCOMING NEXT ROUND? AND THEN THAT'LL GIVE YOU TIME TO SEE WHETHER OR NOT YOU'RE ABLE TO SOLIDIFY MAYBE A MARCH. YEAH, THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE GOOD. GIVE YOU SOME, A LITTLE BIT OF TIME TO GET THAT. YEAH, I THINK SO. SO WE'RE OKAY WITH THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS. AND THEN THE NEXT DATE FOR THE MEETING WOULD BE, I'VE GOT THE 27TH, FEBRUARY 27TH. THAT'S RIGHT. 27TH. IS THERE, HAVE IT ON THE 20TH. I HAVE A BASKETBALL TICKETS ON THE 27TH. OR IS THAT, THAT CONFLICTS WITH ANOTHER ORGANIZATION ON [00:25:01] THE THIRD. ANGELA, WHO KNOWS EVERYTHING. IS THERE GONNA BE ANOTHER MEETING ELSE I COULD JUST MISS ON THE SECOND, ON THE THIRD TUESDAY OF THE MONTH? NOT IN FEBRUARY. I'M FINE EITHER. WE CAN FIND OUT AND THEN WE'LL PULL FOR BOTH TO SEE HOW THAT, HOW THAT WORKS. OKAY. OKAY. YEAH. AND WE'LL DOUBLE CHECK WITH, UM, COUNCIL MEMBER ALVARADO, JUST TO MAKE SURE WHICH ONE SHE'S AVAILABLE FOR. I START THERE. OKAY. YES MA'AM. YEAH, I START THERE BECAUSE SHE'S PROBABLY GONNA BE THE FOCAL POINT OF THAT MEETING IN THE FIRST PLACE. SO YES MA'AM, PLEASE. AND IF NOT, THEN WE CAN, IT'LL BE RECORDED. OKAY. I HAVE A A, A QUESTION FOR THE COMMITTEE. WOULD YOU BE INTERESTED IN A PRESENTATION ON STED, THE CRIME PREVENTION THROUGH ENVIRONMENTAL DESIGN? I MEAN, ALWAYS. YEAH, FOR SURE. UM, SARGE, DO YOU THINK WE COULD GET ONE OF YOUR GUYS TO, TO PUT SOMETHING TOGETHER ABOUT A 10 MINUTE PRESENTATION AND THEN BE ABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT, THAT THAT, THAT IT SPARKS? SO DO WE WANNA DO THOSE TWO THINGS NEXT WEEK OR NEXT WEEK ACTUALLY? UM, CAN WE PUT THAT OFF? WE CAN DO IT MM-HMM . BUT APRIL WOULD BE THE BEST. OKAY. YEAH. BE BECAUSE OFFICER KING, MYSELF AND OFFICER AGUILERA ARE ACTUALLY GOING TO A SED CLASS MM-HMM . IN MARCH. YEAH. I'M, I'M GOOD WITH, I COULD BRING WHATEVER, BRING S OR OIS TO GIVE THAT IF YOU'D LIKE. I JUST, WHILE IT WAS ON MY MIND, I WAS JUST WONDERING IF THAT WAS SOMETHING YOU GUYS WOULD BE INTERESTED IN. YEAH. WE COULD WAIT UNTIL APRIL THINK YOU COULD. IT'S PRETTY EXCITING STUFF TO YEAH. TAKE THAT BACK TO BUSINESS OWNERS THAT YOU KNOW. YEAH. SO THAT'D BE GREAT. SO ASIDE FROM COUNCILWOMAN ALVARADO COMING IN FEBRUARY, THERE SOMETHING YOU COULD SEND OUT TO OTHER STUFF TO US WITH SOME HIGHLIGHTS OF ABOUT THE PROGRAM? YEAH. YEAH. I CAN DEFINITELY KIND GOT AN IDEA OF WHAT TO EXPECT ASKING TO SAY THIS, BUT DO WE INVITE THE NEW COUNCIL MEMBERS? WAIT, DID WE INVITE, HE ASKED IF WE INVITED THE NEW COUNCIL MEMBERS. SHOULD, SHOULD WE INVITE, SHOULD WE INVITE THE NEW COUNCIL MEMBERS? DID WE HAVE SOME NEW COUNCIL MEMBERS WE CAN INVITE? SHOULD WE INVITE THEM TO ACTUALLY COME OR IS THAT NOT SOMETHING'S FORMALLY DONE? WE CAN INVITE THEM. UM, ONE, IT WOULD JUST BE DEPENDING ON HOW MANY COME, BECAUSE I KNOW WE HAVE A QUORUM FOR COUNCIL, SO IT DEPEND IF WE ONLY THAT'S FUNNY LAURA. AND, UM, MR. FRANCO AS A NEW COUNCIL MEMBER, UM, IT JUST DEPENDS WHICHEVER WAY YOU WOULD LIKE TO, UH, I MEAN WE WE'RE PROBABLY GONNA END UP HAVING TO DO A QUARTERLY MEETING REPORT AT SOME POINT AND THEN WE CAN JUST INTRODUCE THE INFORMATION AT THAT POINT. YEAH, I THINK, YEAH, WE'LL HAVE A QUARTERLY, WE FIGURE WHEN THAT NEXT QUARTERLY IS. IT'S PROBABLY RIGHT AROUND THE CORNER. YEAH. APRIL, SINCE WE HAVEN'T MET EXACTLY. SO I GUESS ANYTHING ELSE WITH, NO, I THINK WE'RE GOOD. ALVARADO, ANYTHING ELSE? I THINK ONCE WE GET THOSE, WE'LL HAVE A QUESTION AND ANSWER OPPORTUNITY TO TALK TO HER A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE, THOSE EXPECTATIONS MOVING FORWARD. CORRECT. OKAY. I THINK THAT'LL BE A GOOD, FRUITFUL CONVERSATION. ALL RIGHT. SO WE HAVE COUNCILWOMAN ALVARADO COMING AS OUR TOPIC FOR NEXT TIME ALONG WITH YOUR REPORT 'CAUSE WE LOVE THEM. AND THEN, UM, WE'RE LOOKING AT EITHER FEBRUARY 27TH OR 20TH, WHICHEVER WORKS BEST FOR COUNCILWOMAN ALVARADO. UM, AND I'M ASSUMING EVERYBODY IS OKAY WITH THE 20TH, IF THAT WORKS BEST FOR HER. OKAY. AND THEN, UM, WE'LL HAVE IT HERE IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS. YES. AT 6:00 PM YES MA'AM. UM, SO IF WE CAN GET THE, THE, SO THE NEXT FOURTH WEDNESDAY IS MARCH THE 26TH IF THE APARTMENT COMPLEX? YES, MA'AM. YES MA'AM. I'VE GOT THAT WRITTEN. OH, YES. THANK YOU. MARCH 26TH. OUR FOURTH. THE TUESDAY. ALRIGHT. SO DO, DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO END? A MOTION TO ADJOURN? TO ADJOURN? THANK YOU. A MOTION CONSIDERING THE DATES. OH, DO WE HAVE A MOTION? CONSIDER, SORRY, LET ME BEFORE WE ADJOURN. SORRY, IT'S BEEN A SECOND. UM, DO WE HAVE A MOTION FOR, FOR THE DATES THAT WE, EVERYTHING THAT THE DATE, THE LOCATION, AND THE TOPIC. A MOTION. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND. OH, HE SECOND. YEAH. ALL RIGHT. ANY DISCUSSION ABOUT THIS? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? ALL AYE. AYE. AYE. ANYBODY OPPOSE? EXCELLENT. SO THAT DATE IS SENT. ALL RIGHT. SO THEN I GUESS THE NEXT THING IS TO ADJOURN. DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO ADJOURN? I'LL TRY THAT AGAIN. MOTION TO ADJOURN. . SECOND. SECOND. THERE'S NO, DOES ANYBODY OPPOSE TO ADJOURN? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. ALL RIGHT. ADJOURNED AT 6:31 PM. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.