Jan 17, 2024 BAYTOWN CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN (CIP) COMMITTEE

OKAY, SO I HAVEN'T

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WE CALL,

[ CITY OF BAYTOWN NOTICE OF MEETING BAYTOWN CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN (CIP) COMMITTEE THURSDAY, JANUARY 11, 2024 4:00 P.M. HULLUM CONFERENCE ROOM, BAYTOWN CITY HALL 2401 MARKET STREET, BAYTOWN, TEXAS 77520 AGENDA CALL TO ORDER AND ANNOUNCEMENT OF QUORUM ]

IT'S, UH, 4:06 PM CALL INTO BUSINESS.

I THINK, FRANK,

[a. Receive and discuss presentation regarding Asset Management and the Capital Improvement Plan (CIP) process.]

UH, WELCOME EVERYBODY.

UM, SO WE ARE ABOUT TO GET INTO ANOTHER CYCLE OF PLANNING FOR OUR, UH, CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN.

AND, UH, I THOUGHT IT'D BE VERY USEFUL BEFORE WE GET INTO THE DETAILS OF, YOU KNOW, UH, WHAT KIND OF PROJECTS DO WE WANT TO FUND AND ALL THAT, TO TALK ABOUT WHAT THE PROCESS SHOULD LOOK LIKE, YOU KNOW, UM, AND, YOU KNOW, ASSET MANAGEMENT IS THE STUDY OF, YOU KNOW, HOW TO EFFECTIVELY SYSTEMATICALLY MANAGE YOUR ASSETS SO THAT YOU ARE MAINTAINING THEM AND REPLACING THEM, YOU KNOW, WHEN IT'S, UM, MOST EFFICIENT AND, YOU KNOW, UH, MAKES THE MOST ECONOMIC SENSE.

SO THAT'S KIND OF, UH, I WANT TO, UM, HAVE AN AGENDA HERE FOR US TO JUST FIRST GO OVER, YOU KNOW, WHAT IS ASSET MANAGEMENT AND WHAT SHOULD WE BE DOING IN THE PROCESS OF PUTTING TOGETHER OUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN, WHICH IS THE PLAN FOR HOW DO WE REPLACE OUR ASSETS.

WE HAVE OTHER PLANS THAT LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, OUR MAINTENANCE AND, UH, OPERATIONS AND MAINTENANCE.

AND, YOU KNOW, IF WE HAVE TIME, I'LL GET INTO SOME OF THE THINGS WE'RE DOING THERE.

UM, BUT THE FOCUS OF THIS COMMITTEE IS THE CIP AND THE REPLACEMENT.

SO, UH, I WANTED TO FIRST GIVE YOU AN OVERVIEW OF WHAT THE PROCESS SHOULD LOOK LIKE, AND THEN TALK ABOUT EACH OF OUR PROGRAMS WITHIN THE CIP AND, YOU KNOW, AT WHAT STAGE WE ARE WITHIN THAT ASSET MANAGEMENT PROCESS.

'CAUSE WE'RE AT DIFFERENT STAGES IN DIFFERENT PROGRAMS, AND THEY'RE, THEY'RE ALL KIND OF UNIQUE.

SO I WANTED TO GO THROUGH EACH ONE, GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF WHERE WE'RE AT, AND IT'LL LET YOU KNOW WHAT WE NEED TO DO TO PUT TOGETHER THIS YP BUT EACH OF THOSE.

SO FIRST, WHAT IS ASSET MANAGEMENT? AS I SAID, IT'S REALLY JUST A SYSTEMATIC APPROACH TO ACQUIRING, OPERATE AND MAINTAINING, UPGRADING AND REPLACING YOUR ASSETS AND COST EFFECTIVE MANAGEMENT.

AND THERE IS A ASSET LIFE CYCLE, AND YOU GO THROUGH PLANNING OF, YOU KNOW, THE ASSET AND ACQUIRING IT, OPERATING IT, MAINTAINING IT, DECOMMISSION, AND STARTING .

UH, IT IS A PROCESS AND, UM, YOU KNOW, TO DO IT IN THE MOST SELF EFFECTIVE MATTER, IT REQUIRES A LOT OF THOUGHT AND ANALYSIS.

UH, SO WHY DO WE WANT TO DO ASSET MANAGEMENT FIRST? IT, UM, ALLOWS US TO MANAGE OUR RESOURCES IN A PREDICTIVE AND COST EFFECTIVE MANNER.

IT MINIMIZES RISK 'CAUSE WE ANALYZE THE RISK, AND WE ARE ABLE TO, UM, YOU KNOW, MAKE DECISIONS, UH, REPLACEMENT OR MAINTENANCE DECISIONS BEFORE WE HAVE CATASTROPHIC FAILURE.

AND THAT'S THE GOAL.

AND IT, UH, IMPORTANTLY FOR THIS COMMITTEE ALLOWS US TO BUDGET SMARTLY, YOU KNOW, TO USE OUR RESOURCES IN, UH, THE BEST WAY POSSIBLE AND AVOIDS UNEXPECTED, UH, OUTLAYS DUE TO CATASTROPHIC FAILURE.

UH, SOME OF THE GOALS, UH, HAVE LISTED HERE, UH, THINGS IN RED IS WHAT I REALLY WANT US TO FOCUS ON.

AND I, I WOULD LIKE FOR US TO BE PROACTIVE, UH, TO PLAN OUR BUDGET AND TO MINIMIZE LIFE CYCLE COSTS.

UH, THIS IS THE PROCESS.

UM, THIS IS NOT TEXTBOOK, UH, THIS IS, YOU KNOW, FROM FRANK'S MIND RIGHT HERE.

BUT , IT SOUNDS AS GOOD AS ANY TEXTBOOK.

I THINK .

SO FIRST, UM, YOU HAVE TO DEFINE YOUR ASSETS, YOU KNOW, UH, WHAT ARE YOU, WHAT DO YOU WANNA MEASURE? UH, WHAT ARE YOUR ASSETS? AND WE'VE GONE THROUGH THAT PROCESS IN THE CITY AND, AND WE HAVE A LOT OF DIFFERENT ASSETS, UM, UH, AND WE'RE NOT, YOU KNOW, MANAGING ALL OF THEM WITHIN THIS PROCESS.

BUT, YOU KNOW, IF YOU LOOK AT THE CIP, WE HAVE ALL THOSE THINGS.

WE GOT, WE'VE GOT FACILITIES, WE'VE GOT, YOU KNOW, TRANSPORTATION ASSETS THAT INCLUDES OUR, OUR STREETS, OUR, YOU KNOW, SIDEWALKS, CURBS, UM, TRAFFIC LIGHTS, SIGNALS, SIGNS, STRIPES ON A PAVEMENT.

THAT'S EVERYTHING THAT WE'RE MANAGING WITHIN THAT STORM.

WATER, YOU KNOW, UM, JUST OUR DRAINAGE SYSTEM, OUR PIPES, UH, DITCHES, THINGS LIKE THAT.

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THAT'S THE BAYTOWN AREA.

WATER AUTHORITY.

UM, AND WATER DISTRIBUTION IS THE PIPES TO GET IT TO OUR CUSTOMERS.

WASTEWATER TREATMENT IS THE PIPES AND LIFT STATIONS TO GET IT FROM THE CUSTOMER'S HOUSE TO OUR TREATMENT PLANTS.

AND THEN, UH, WASTEWATER, ALRIGHT, THAT WAS COLLECTION.

WASTEWATER TREATMENT IS THE TREATMENT PLANTS TREAT WASTEWATER AND DISCHARGE TO THE ENVIRONMENT.

AND THEN WE HAVE PARKS THAT HAVE, YOU KNOW, EQUIPMENT, THEY HAVE, YOU KNOW, UM, PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT.

THEY HAVE, UM, ACREAGE, THEY HAVE, YOU KNOW, FACILITIES LIKE, YOU KNOW, ROSELAND PAVILION, THINGS LIKE THAT.

SO, UH, WE, WE WENT THROUGH AND DEFINED OUR ASSETS AND THEN TRIED TO, THE NEXT PART IS TO, YOU KNOW, DO AN INVENTORY OF THIS.

AND THIS IS PRETTY TIME CONSUMING PROCESS TO TRY TO, YOU KNOW, UH, INVENTORY EVERY, YOU KNOW, MILE OF PAVEMENT WE HAVE, EVERY SIDEWALK THAT YOU HAVE, EVERY MANY A FOOT OF DITCH THAT YOU HAVE.

UH, IT, IT IS VERY, YOU KNOW, THE CITY, IT IS VERY HARD TO DO THIS.

SO WE, WE WENT THROUGH THIS PROCESS AND, UM, FOR A LOT OF THESE PROGRAMS AND HAVE DONE AN ASSET INVENTORY AFTER THAT, YOU, UH, DETERMINE THE VALUE OF YOUR ASSETS.

YOU KNOW, WHAT IS, WHAT IS IT, WHAT COSTS TO REPLACE, YOU KNOW, A LINEAR PRODUCT SIDEWALK, YOU KNOW, THAT HELPS, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S YOUR TOTAL VALUE OF WHAT YOU HAVE.

BUT ONCE YOU DETERMINE HOW MUCH YOU HAVE, UH, YOU NEED TO LOOK AT HOW LONG DOES THAT ASSET WOULD LAST YOU, YOU KNOW, GIVEN THAT YOU'RE GONNA MAINTAIN IT.

UH, HOW LONG IS, UH, ASPHALT PAYMENT LAST? MAYBE IT'S A 20 YEAR LIFE.

WELL, IF IT LASTS 20 YEARS AND YOU GOTTA REPLACE IT IN 20 YEARS, AND, YOU KNOW, UM, YOU NEED TO PLAN FOR THAT EACH YEAR.

YOU KNOW, 'CAUSE YOU HAVE SO MUCH ASSETS, YOU GOTTA PLAN FOR THE SYSTEMATIC REPLACEMENT .

AND THAT'S REALLY THE, THE IMPORTANT POINT OF THIS, AND ESPECIALLY FOR THE COMMITTEE, IS YOU DETERMINE AN AVERAGE INVESTMENT THAT YOU HAVE TO MAKE SO THAT YOUR ASSETS DON'T FALL BELOW THE SERVICE LEVEL THAT YOU EXPECT.

SO, UH, THAT'S, WE SPENT A LOT OF TIME TRYING TO GET TO THAT NUMBER.

HOW MUCH SHOULD WE BE INVESTING IN EACH OF OUR PROGRAMS SO THAT IT'S SUSTAINABLE AND WE DON'T END UP WITH, YOU KNOW, A LARGE BILL 'CAUSE WE HAVE A CATASTROPHIC FAILURE.

UM, OR, YOU KNOW, THERE WE JUST NEED TO, YOU KNOW, PLAN THOSE EXPENSES BETTER.

WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE'RE INVESTING AS MUCH AS WE NEED TO WITHIN OUR ASSETS.

UM, AND THEN WE GET INTO MANAGING THE ASSET ITSELF.

WE LOOK AT OPERATING AND MAINTENANCE COSTS, AND WE USE THAT TO DETERMINE WHEN WE'RE SPENDING TOO MUCH MONEY MAINTAINING, YOU KNOW, SAY A SEGMENT OF PIPE.

IT'S BREAKING EVERY SIX MONTHS.

WE'RE MAINTAINING THAT PIPE TOO MUCH, WE NEED TO REPLACE THEM.

SO CAPTURING OUR OPERATING MAINTENANCE COSTS HELP US MAKE DECISIONS ABOUT WHICH ASSETS TO REPLACE WHEN.

UH, AND THEN WE DETERMINE, LIKE I SAY, THE SCHEDULE AND, UH, AND THEN WE PRODUCE, YOU KNOW, THE CIP THAT PROGRAMS, THE MAINTENANCE AND REPLACEMENT OF THOSE ASSETS.

THAT'S KIND OF THE CYCLE THAT WE SHOULD GO THROUGH.

UM, ASSET MANAGEMENT IN BAYTOWN.

SO IN 2019, WE HIRED ASSET MANAGER, UH, WITH US TODAY, LEAH.

SHE HAS SINCE MOVED ON TO OUR, UH, FINANCE DEPARTMENT.

BUT 2019 WE HIRED LEAH.

AND, UH, WE PURCHASED CITY WORK.

CITY WORKS IS OUR SYSTEM WHERE WE MAINTAIN THE DATA FOR ALL OF OUR.

AND SO IT TOOK US A LONG TIME TO TRY TO BUILD THAT INVENTORY OF ASSETS.

AND SINCE 2019, THAT'S A LOT OF WHAT WE WORKED ON, IS BUILDING THE INVENTORY OF ASSETS AND THEN TRACKING, YOU KNOW, SERVICE REQUESTS AND WORK ORDERS SO THAT WE HAVE THAT OPERATING MAINTENANCE COST INFORMATION THAT WE CAN USE TO, YOU KNOW, ANALYZE OUR SYSTEM AND CREATE PROJECTS FOR REPLACE, UM, , IT'S PROBABLY GONNA BE HARD TO, I I DID WANT TO SHOW YOU SOME OF THE WORK THAT WE DID ON THE OPERATING MAINTEN SIDE.

WE FINISH,

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UM, SO IT MIGHT BE HARD TO GET INTO, BUT IT, IT IS INTERESTING, I THINK, TO SEE HOW WE'RE USING IT.

AND THE EXAMPLE I HAD THERE WAS OUR DRAINAGE CONDITION IN THERE.

SO WE PUT ALL OF OUR DRAINAGE INFRASTRUCTURE INTO CITY WORKS AND WE, UH, COATED ALL THE DIGES AND PIPES, UM, ON A SCALE BETWEEN ZERO AND 100 BASED ON THE AMOUNT OF CAPACITY AND THE, THE PIPE.

AND THEN WE GAVE IT A COLOR COATING.

SO, YOU KNOW, LIKE, YOU KNOW, AND SO WE USED THAT.

ONCE WE HAD ALL THAT INFORMATION, WE COULD USE THAT FOR KEVIN'S GROUP TO PLAN WHERE HE WOULD GO OUT AND DO, UM, YOU KNOW, DITCH MAINTENANCE SO THAT WE WERE TARGETING THE ONES THAT REALLY NEEDED TO, RATHER THAN JUST, WE HAD FOUND WE WERE DOING A LOT OF DITCHES THAT DIDN'T NEED TO BE CLEANED WHEN WE HAD DITCHES OVER HERE THAT WERE IN A LOT MORE SHAPE.

SO BY QUANTIFYING ALL THAT DATA AND YOU PRESENTING IT GRAPHICALLY, WE'RE ABLE TO DETERMINE THE BEST WAY TO MAINTAIN OUR DITCHES.

NOW WE'VE GOT ABOUT 80% OR SO.

IT'S GREEN.

IT'S GREEN.

LAURA, I COULD HAVE HELPED YOU WITH THAT.

EVERYTHING.

OH YEAH.

I'LL LEAVE IT TO THE EXPERTS.

SO, , WELL, IF WE HAVE TIME, I'LL COME BACK AND SHOW YOU THAT PRODUCT THAT WE HAVE THAT HELPED PROCESS.

AND FRANK, WE HAVE, YOU SAID LEE HAS GONE TO FINANCE.

DID SHE TAKE THIS PROGRAM WITH HER OR YOU? NO, HER, SO TAYLOR IS MY REPLACEMENT.

UH, SHE IS THE ASSET.

UH, THIS IS AN ASSET MANAGER.

UH, AND GARRETT IS OUR NEW, UH, ASSET MANAGEMENT CENTER.

OKAY.

GARRETT ESSENTIALLY IS DOING WHAT LEAH DID TO START WITH.

GOT IT.

SO IS THIS IS SIMILAR TO THE PCI? IT IS VERY SIMILAR TO THAT, AND IT'S A SIMILAR CONCEPT.

SO THE PCI IS THE PAVEMENT CONDITION IN INDEX, AND WE CREATED ONE FOR THE DRAINAGE.

WE ACTUALLY PRESENTED THAT AT, UH, AMERICAN PUBLIC WORK ASSOCIATION CONFERENCE.

IT WAS SOMETHING THAT WE CREATED.

I THINK THIS WOULD BE GOOD.

I KNOW IN THE PAST WE USED TO HOLD, UM, THE, UH, DRAINAGE MASTER PLAN, UH, MEETINGS WHEN CHRIS WAS STILL HERE.

AND SO THAT'S LIKE, WE COULD MAYBE BRING THAT BACK UP AGAIN.

AND THIS WOULD BE REALLY GREAT INFORMATION FOR THAT PARTICULAR, I THINK IT WAS THE DRAINAGE MASTER PLAN.

BUT DO YOU REMEMBER, I'M GONNA TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THE DRAINAGE AND SOME OF THE, WE, WE DID UPDATE OUR DRAINAGE MASTER PLAN, UM, KIND OF WENT THROUGH THESE ALREADY.

THIS IS THE CATEGORIES THAT WE HAVE WITHIN THE CIP.

UM, AND SO NOW I JUST WANT TO TALK ABOUT KIND OF THE STATUS OF EACH OF THE PROGRAMS, WHERE WE'RE AT AND WHAT WE NEED TO DO IN ORDER TO, YOU KNOW, PRODUCE THE CIP FOR THE NEXT SITE.

UM, SO STARTING WITH FACILITIES, UH, WE HAVE A LOT OF FACILITIES.

UH, WE DID DO A, UH, FACILITY MASTER PLAN IN 2021, BUT IT WAS A MASTER PLAN IN THE SENSE THAT IT WAS BASICALLY A CONDITION ASSESSMENT OF OUR, OUR, AND OUT OF THAT, THEY HAD A LOT OF RECOMMENDATIONS ABOUT, YOU KNOW, FOR EACH FACILITY.

THEY TOLD US WHAT WAS DEFICIENT, WHAT NEEDED TO BE, YOU KNOW, RENOVATED.

AND SO WE STARTED PUTTING TOGETHER SOME RENOVATION PLANS FOR EACH OF THE FACILITIES AND TRIED TO PUT THAT INTO THE CIP LAST YEAR, UH, CYCLE.

UM, BUT IT JUST, IT WAS MUCH BIGGER THAN, YOU KNOW, THE DEBT CAPACITY.

SO WE HAD TO PULL BACK FROM THAT.

BUT THERE IS STILL THE NEED, YOU KNOW, FOR, I THINK THEY IDENTIFIED ABOUT THINK OR $50 MILLION IN, YOU KNOW, RECOMMENDED RENOVATIONS.

SO WE WERE TRYING TO TAKE THAT OFF IN CHUNKS.

UM, AND, AND WE'LL STILL DO THAT, BUT JUST ON A SLOWER SCHEDULE.

BUT THIS JUST KIND OF GIVES YOU AN IDEA OF THE MAGNITUDE OF THE THINGS WE NEED TO LOOK AT.

UM, SO IF YOU LOOK AT OUR INSURED DEPRECIATED VALUE, IT'S 166 MILLION.

UH, I WOULD SAY, YOU KNOW, THE REPLACEMENT VALUE IS MUCH HIGHER THAN,

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UM, NOW WITH THE FACILITY, YOU DON'T ALWAYS HAVE TO REPLACE IT.

YOU KNOW, YOU CAN MAINTAIN IT FOR MORE OR LESS INDEFINITELY LONG AS YOU ARE MAINTAINING THE, THE COMPONENTS.

AND THAT'S WHAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON WITH FACILITY MAINTENANCE IS UPGRADING OUR CAPABILITIES OF INVESTING IN OUR, YOU KNOW, H HP, HVAC SYSTEMS, OUR ROOF SYSTEM, UH, PLUMBING, ELECTRICAL.

SO WE'RE DOING THAT A LOT WITH THEM TO MAKE.

SO I THINK THIS PROGRAM NEEDS A LOT.

UM, IT NEEDS SOME ANALYSIS ON, YOU KNOW, UM, A TRUE FACILITY MASTER PLAN OF WHAT WE SHOULD BE DOING WITH FACILITIES, WHO SHOULD BE LOCATED WHERE, UM, AND YOU KNOW, HOW WHERE DO WE NEED NEW BUILDINGS? WHERE DO WE NEED TO, YOU KNOW, GET RID OF BUILDINGS, THINGS LIKE THAT.

SO WE, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT DOING THIS, UM, AND IT, IT'S GONNA BE A WORK IN PROGRESS.

IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT'S GONNA BE, I THINK WITHIN THE CIP FOR THE NEXT CYCLE, BUT YOU SHOULD SEE THE CONTINUED, YOU KNOW, INVESTMENT IN RENOVATION.

WE'RE GONNA DO THAT AS MUCH AS IT'LL OUR CAPACITY.

UH, ANYTHING YOU WANT TO ADD ABOUT FACILITY? I MEAN, I THINK YOU HIT THE NAIL ON THE HEAD THAT ALL THIS, WHEN AGGREGATED DRIVES ALMOST THE ENTIRE CIP AND AS WE LOOK AT THIS, THIS IS A, Y'ALL, THE ORGANIZATION HAS HEARD ME TALK ABOUT WE NEED TO DO LESS.

THE REASON IS, IS THERE'S ALREADY SO MUCH TO DO JUST ON THE STANDARD BASIS THAT THE MORE WE KEEP DOING AND THE MORE WE HAVE IS THE MORE THAT WE HAVE TO MAINTAIN.

UM, AND THIS IS JUST ONE REASON OF WHY WE NEED TO DO LESS.

SO THE MORE THAT WE CAN, THAT'S NOT PART OF THE CRITICAL CORE SERVICES THAT WE NEED TO DO, SHOULD LOOKED AT BEING IF WE NEED TO DO IT ANYMORE, BUT JUST ALL JUST ADDS INTO IT.

I THINK WE VERY WELL, WE'RE LOOKING TO, AND I HATE TO INTO WITH FACILITIES MASTER PLAN AND MAINTENANCE PLAN, WE TRY TO CENTRALIZE FACILITY MAINTENANCE.

'CAUSE I KNOW TRYING TO GET RID OF SOME OF THIS, THE DEPARTMENTS HAVE THEIR INDIVIDUAL MAINTENANCE BUDGETS.

WE WE DID DO THAT.

HAVE THAT.

OKAY.

ALL FACILITY MAINTENANCE AND, AND ALL BUDGET FOR FACILITY MAINTENANCE.

KEVIN AND HE MANAGES, UH, WE DID THAT, UH, A COUPLE YEARS AGO.

AND, UH, SO, AND LIKE I SAY, LAST YEAR WHAT WE WORKED ON WAS TRYING TO GET IN PLACE ANNUAL CONTRACTS FOR, ESPECIALLY FOR ROOF MAINTENANCE, .

THAT'S WHERE WE SAW, YOU KNOW, THE BIGGEST NEEDS ADDRESSED.

YEAH, THOSE ARE BIG TICKET ITEMS AND, AND INDIVIDUAL DEPARTMENT BUDGETS WERE NEVER FUNDED TO DO THOSE.

THEN SOMETHING FAILED.

THERE WAS A SCRAMBLE OF, OKAY, WHO'S RESPONSIBLE? SO I APPRECIATE WE ACTUALLY DID FUND THAT.

I, WELL, YOU MAY SEE, YOU KNOW, A CONTRACT COMING UP, UH, SOLUTION CONTRACTOR PROBABLY SEE THAT.

I BELIEVE WE'VE DONE ONE ARRAY WITH THEM.

AND THEN WE HAVE HVC.

SO RECENTLY WE GET JAIL AND BY ARE ALL PART OF THAT.

AND IT HAS BEEN UPGRADED SINCE.

THAT ALSO INCLUDES, UM, ADDRESSING THE ADA A ISSUES WHILE WE'RE ON SITE.

WE HAVE A LOT OF FLAT GROUPS AND I KNOW THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT LEADS TO DETERIORATION OR FASTER DETERIORATION ANYWAY.

UM, AND A LOT OF OUR, UM, AC UNITS ARE OBVIOUSLY ON THE ROOF BECAUSE IT IS FLAT, RIGHT? SO ARE THERE ANY PLANS OR IS THERE ANYTHING TO IMPROVE THAT? UM, SHOULD WE ADD SLOPES AS WE THINK ABOUT RECONSTRUCTION ON SOME OF THEM? OR, UM, IS THIS JUST THE WAY IT'S, UM, I THINK RETROFITTING EXISTING BUILDINGS WOULD BE DIFFICULT.

UM, IF WE'RE THE NEW BUILDING, YEAH.

SOMETHING.

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UM, NEXT I WANT TO GET INTO TRANSPORTATION.

AND AS I SAID, IT UH, INCLUDES A LOT OF DIFFERENT ITEMS. YOUR STREETS, YOU'VE GOT 334 MILES OF PAVE BRIDGES, SIDEWALKS, ROADS, TRAFFIC SIGNALS, SIGNAGE AND PEDESTRIAN.

UM, THIS IS ONE WHERE, UH, THE PAVEMENT CONDITION INDEX IS OUR, OUR, OUR BASE DATA WE USE FOR DETERMINING THE CONDITION OF ALL OF OUR STREETS.

UH, WE RAN THAT LAST TIME IN 2020.

UH, WE'RE CURRENTLY RUNNING IT THIS FISCAL YEAR.

SO THE DATA HAS BEEN COLLECTED, UH, TO UPDATE THE PCI, UH, THE CONSULTANT IS CURRENTLY ANALYZING THAT DATA AND WILL GIVE US, UH, A REPORT AND, UH, ABOUT MONTH AND A HALF BY THE END, BY THE END OF FEBRUARY, YEAH, END OF FEBRUARY, WE SHOULD HAVE THE REPORT REPORT.

SO PLAN ON USING THAT UPDATED DATA TO, YOU KNOW, TO PREPARE A NEW STREET.

AND, UH, LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, THE, WHAT THEY GAVE US LAST TIME WAS A RECOMMENDED, YOU KNOW, UH, INVESTMENT LEVEL TO MAINTAIN YOUR PCI.

SO OUR PCI LAST TIME WAS 74, WHICH I THINK IS, IS FAIRLY GOOD.

UM, WE WANT TO, SO THEY GAVE US A NUMBER, WHICH WAS $28.3 MILLION THAT WE SHOULD INVEST ANNUALLY IF WE WANT TO MAINTAIN THAT 70.

AND THEY GAVE US SOME OTHER, YOU KNOW, BUDGET INFORMATION IF WE WANT TO INCREASE THE PCI.

UM, BUT JUST TO LET YOU KNOW, WE'VE BEEN AVERAGING ABOUT 16 MILLION SINCE, SO WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO USE OUR MAINTENANCE DOLLARS SMARTLY AND, AND AS MUCH IN-HOUSE, SO WE CAN STRETCH THOSE DOLLARS.

BUT, UM, IT JUST SHOWS THAT WE HAVEN'T INVESTED AT THE LEVEL THAT RECOMMENDED ASSET MANAGEMENT.

JUST SOMETHING TO CONSIDER, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE LIMITED FUNDS, BUT YOU KNOW, YOU'RE GONNA SEE IN MOST OF THE PROGRAMS WHERE IF YOU DEFER MAINTENANCE, WE, WE HAVE BEEN DEFERRING.

BUT, YOU KNOW, ON THE, I THINK WE'VE, UM, DONE A PRETTY GOOD JOB.

I WOULD SAY PROBABLY.

I'M CURIOUS TO SEE WHAT OUR PCI WILL BE.

I, I DON'T THINK WE'RE GOING TO DROP MUCH.

I STAY AND, YOU KNOW, BUT WE, WE SHOULDN'T GO BELOW THE INVESTMENT LEVEL.

WE SHOULD LOOK AT IT WHETHER WE INCREASE THAT.

I'VE NOTICED A LOT OF OUR CURVES AND STUFF, I THOUGHT MAYBE 'CAUSE OF THE, THE WILD DROUGHT AND THINGS LIKE THAT, THEY'VE BEEN JUST FALLING APART, DISINTEGRATING IN THE STRANGEST PLACES.

JUST BIG CHUNKS OF CURB PEOPLE HITTING THE CURB.

I KNOW THAT.

BUT, BUT NO, LIKE IN REAL, I DON'T KNOW.

I HAVEN'T TAKEN PICTURES OF ANY OF IT.

WELL, I'VE HAD QUITE A FEW IN MIND, BUT THERE'S, THERE'S ALSO BEEN A LOT OF CONSTRUCTION IN MY AREA.

AND SO ESPECIALLY WITH EXXON BEING SO CLOSE AND THE TRUCKS THAT THEY DRIVE AND, UM, SOME OF MY NEIGHBORHOODS, WELL NOT THE NEIGHBORHOODS, BUT THE MAIN CORRIDORS ARE, UM, IT'S A TRUCK ROUTE AND ALMOST I POSSIBLE YEAH, CURBS ON EVERY DAY.

BUT IF YOU DO SEE THOSE, I PUT 'EM, I ALWAYS JUST PUT IT.

YEAH.

UH, SO AS FAR AS TRANSPORTATION GOES, YOU WILL SEE US UPDATE THE PCI AND THEN USE THAT INFORMATION TO PUT TOGETHER A NEW STREET.

I THINK WE SHOULD HAVE SOMETHING IN MARCH TO REALLY DISCUSS WITH, YOU KNOW, SO I THINK, YOU KNOW, AS FAR AS TRANSPORTATION GOES, WE ARE MORE MATURE WITHIN THE, UM, ASSET MANAGEMENT CYCLE THAN SOME OF THE, OTHER THAN THE FACILITIES.

WE DONE CONDITION ASSESSMENT, HAVE A OVERALL .

UM, THESE ARE JUST SOME OF THE, YOU KNOW, MAINTENANCE, UH, TREATMENTS WE USE.

AND, UM, ONE ONE POINT I WANT TO MAKE ABOUT, YOU KNOW, LOOKING

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IT'S, YOU KNOW, THERE'S, UH, TRAFFIC VOLUMES I GO INTO AND THERE'S, UM, AUXILIARY UTILITY NEEDS.

SO IF WE ARE ALREADY HAVING TO GO IN AND REPLACE WATER OR SEWER LINES RIGHT NEXT TO THE ROAD, CHANCES ARE WE'RE GONNA TEAR UP THE ROAD.

UM, THAT'S A GOOD OPPORTUNITY TO REPLACE THE ROAD.

OR IF WE'RE GOING IN AND, YOU KNOW, WE KNOW WE HAVE TO REPLACE THE ROAD AND WE LOOK AT THE WATER AND SEW AT THE SAME TIME, TRY TO GET IT ALL.

THAT'S WHY THOSE THINGS GO TOGETHER.

SO IT'S NOT JUST, YOU DON'T JUST LOOK AT THE PCI AND SAY, WELL, YOU KNOW, THIS, WE'RE STARTING AT THE LOWEST AND WE'RE GONNA REPLACE.

THERE'S OTHER ANALYSIS THAT GOES INTO IT, AND IT'S A LOT OF IT'S TRAFFIC VOLUME, UM, AND UTILITIES.

AND THEN THE PUT MATERIAL ARE TIGHT BECAUSE WE HAVE, UH, DIFFERENT PROGRAMS FOR CONCRETE STREETS VERSUS HABITAT STREET.

AND THEY HAVE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S, UH, CONCRETE COSTS MORE TO INVEST IN UPFRONT, LAST LONG.

SO THERE'S SOME OF THE DECISIONS WE MAKE PUTTING TOGETHER THOSE PROJECT.

I APPRECIATE YOU.

TWO COMMENTS.

ONE, THAT IF YOU'RE DOING UTILITY WORK, YOU GO AHEAD AND LOOK AT STREET POTENTIAL STREET WORK, OR IF YOU'RE DOING STREET WORK, YOU'RE LOOKING FOR POTENTIAL UTILITY WORK.

'CAUSE THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I'VE HEARD IN THE PAST IS GLEN GOLY, THEY JUST PUT THIS BRAND NEW ROAD IN, THEY CAME BACK SIX MONTHS LATER, DUG IT ALL UP, PUT WATER PIPES IN.

SO I APPRECIATE THAT.

THE OTHER SIDE IS, I, YOU KNOW, I UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, THE STREET DETERMINATIONS AND MATERIAL TYPES, CONDITIONS, TRAFFIC VOLUMES, BUT WE HAVE A LOT OF RESIDENTIAL STREETS THAT AS FAR AS MATERIAL TYPES OR TRAFFIC VOLUMES OR UTILITY NEEDS, IT'S PROBABLY, THEY DON'T RAKE REAL HIGH, BUT THEY'RE IN PRETTY POOR CONDITION.

AND THAT'S LIKE, WE'RE GONNA GET A LOT OF, I SHOULDN'T SAY PUSHBACK, BUT YOU'RE GONNA GET A LOT OF DISCUSSION WHEN WE GET THE PCIS OUT THERE.

UM, I INHERITED AN AREA WITH THE REDISTRICTING THAT YOU, THE STREETS OR SHELL, AND IT'S KIND LIKE, OH, IT'S, IT'S NOT NOW VOLUME WISE OR UTILITY IS LIKE, OKAY, THERE'S 20 HOMES OUT THERE, BUT THOSE FOLKS NEED BETTER THAN SHELL STREETS AS WELL.

SO THINGS THAT I WALKED TO, YEAH, IT'S NOT GONNA BE MY PLAN.

IT'S GONNA BE, I REMEMBER AND PUT INTO THAT THERE WAS, IT'S BEEN SEVERAL YEARS, 10 OR 15 YEARS AGO, WE ACTUALLY HAD STREETS THAT WERE DIRT STREETS IN TOWN.

IT'S KIND OF LIKE STREET'S KIND OF, THAT WAS JUST, WHEN THAT CAME TO LIGHT, IT'S KIND OF LIKE EVERYBODY'S LOOKING AROUND LIKE DIRT STREETS.

IT'S KIND DIRT STREETS, STREET THEORY.

YEAH.

SO WE, WE, WE WILL HAVE TO DEDICATE LEAST ONE JUST TO TALK ABOUT STREET.

YES.

BUT, BUT IT'S A GIVE AND TAKE.

IF WE THROW SOME OF THOSE UP, WE GOTTA BE WILLING TO PULL THINGS OFF.

IT ALSO, IT TAKES LONGER, UM, FOR THE RECONSTRUCT AS WE LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, IMPROVING OTHER THINGS THAN JUST THE PAVEMENT.

UM, SO THAT'S ONE THING THAT WE DEFINITELY NEED TO CONSIDER AS WELL.

UM, IT NEEDS TO BE DONE, BUT THEN, YOU KNOW, MAKING SURE RESIDENTS KNOW, IT'S LIKE YOU DON'T WANT US TO COME BACK IN SIX MONTHS, SO IT'S GONNA TAKE LONGER TO REPAIR.

UM, AND THIS IS WHY, AND I KNOW OVER SEVERAL YEARS, I, I TALK ABOUT, SINCE YOU MENTIONED YOU BROUGHT UP, SINCE WE'RE TEARING UP THE STREETS, WE'RE GONNA DO THIS.

AND, UM, ESPECIALLY NOW AS WE'RE WORKING REALLY HARD ON OUR DIGITAL DIVIDE.

UM, AND, UM, I KNOW IT WAS BROUGHT UP THAT PERHAPS FOR THE OLDER DISTRICTS THAT WE CAN AT LEAST LAY THE CONDUIT.

UM, SO WHATEVER, UM, YOU KNOW, COMPANY THAT OFFERS INTERNET CAN JUST EASILY CONNECT.

I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WOULD BE A COST TO US OR IF IT WOULD BE A COST TO THEM.

UM, BUT, UM, THERE'S JUST ONE IN PARTICULAR RIGHT NOW THAT WE'RE HAVING SUCH A HARD TIME NOW THEY'RE TELLING US THAT IT'LL BE $10,000 FOR THIS PARTICULAR BUILDING TO HAVE INTERNET, UH, WHEN IT'S RIGHT NEXT DOOR TO THE WEAPONS CENTER .

AND IT'S LIKE, OH NO, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO PAY $10,000 NOW, UM, ASIDE FROM AN INITIAL $4,000 INVESTMENT.

AND THEY'RE LIKE, WELL, NEXT DOOR THERE'S INTERNET AND THEN YEAH, BUT THERE'S NO LINES IN YOUR, IN YOUR BUILDING.

AND SO, UM, I KNOW THERE'S PROBABLY MORE DISCUSSIONS ON THAT ONE, UH, SOMETHING THAT MAYBE THEY'RE MISSING.

BUT, UH, WITH MARKET STREET, THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS I REALLY WANTED TO LOOK AT

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YEAH.

YEAH.

WE'VE BEEN DISCUSSING, UM, UH, SINCE YOU BROUGHT THAT UP, AND I KNOW THAT BRIAN IS TALKING WITH, UM, WITH A COUPLE FIRMS ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THE BENEFITS COST BENEFIT OF, OF CONDUIT AND ALSO REMEMBER, UH, THAT THERE HAVE BEEN SEVERAL COMPANIES THAT HAVE ALREADY INQUIRED ABOUT, UM, THEY SUBMIT.

YEAH.

UM, SO, SO WE'RE MOVING FORWARD.

YEAH, I KNOW ONE CAME TO PRESENT AT COUNCIL, BUT THEN THERE BE TWO THAT SUBMITTED POINTS.

OKAY.

BECAUSE THEN WE NEVER HEAR FROM THEM AND THEY'RE LIKE, YEAH, WE'RE GONNA DO THIS.

AND I KNOW SOME OF THOSE ARE PROPRIETARY UNTIL THEY ACTUALLY GET EVERYTHING DONE, BUT AT LEAST TO, EVEN IF IT'S AN EXECUTIVE SESSION TO SHOW US, WHAT DO YOU GOT? .

OKAY.

UM, SO DEFINITELY WOULD LIKE TO SEE AN UPDATE ON THAT.

OKAY.

OKAY.

UH, NOW WE TALKED ABOUT OUR STORMWATER DRAIN SYSTEM, AND THIS IS ALL THE SYSTEM REQUIRED TO PREVENT OUR HOMES AND BUSINESSES FROM FLOODING.

UM, EVERYTHING TO TAKE, YOU KNOW, STORM WATER FROM, YOU KNOW, YARDS AND STREETS INTO ITS ULTIMATE DESTINATION.

UH, WE DID A MASTER DRAINAGE PLAN THAT WAS UPDATED IN 2020 AND, UH, IT WAS, IT WAS VERY GOOD PLAN.

I WAS VERY, UH, HAPPY WITH THAT.

WE, UM, WENT THROUGH AND THEY, UM, THEY, YOU KNOW, CATEGORIZED THE DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE CITY, UH, INTO BASINS, UH, ON THE DRAINED, AND THEN, UM, PRIORITIZE THEM AS TO THEIR RISK OF FLOOD.

AND OUT OF THAT THEY DEVELOPED PROJECTS THAT WOULD IMPROVE THE RISK OF FLOODING.

SO, UH, THREE OF THE HIGHEST PRIORITY PROJECTS WERE ALREADY FUNDED.

WE WENT A COUPLE YEARS AGO AND INCREASED THE, UH, STRONG WATER UTILITY FEE, UH, DOLLAR, REMEMBER THAT.

AND THEN WE ISSUED SOME DEBT, UH, OFF OF THAT TO, AND WE PARTNERED WITH HARRIS COUNTY TO GET SOME OF THESE PROJECTS DONE.

SO THE, THE FIRST PROJECT, UH, WAS DAN DANINA, AND IT WAS REALLY COMBINED WITH, UH, EAST JAMES, I THINK SO WAS ACTUALLY TWO PROJECT, UM, IS THAT RIGHT? SURE, YEAH.

YEAH.

THOSE COMBINED WITH EAST CHAIN.

AND THIS PROJECT IS, YOU KNOW, THESE WERE THE HIGHEST PRIORITIES IN, IN THE CITY.

UM, THE MOST FLOODING AND THE MOST, YOU KNOW, RISK TO RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURES.

SO, UM, PROJECT IS IN DESIGN, IT'S, UM, PARTNERSHIP WITH HARRIS COUNTY.

THE COUNTY IS LEADING THE DESIGN.

UM, THEY'RE MAKING PROGRESS.

THEY PUT INTO TWO DIFFERENT PHASES.

FIRST PHASE IS THE TRUNK LINE THAT GOES DOWN, CLINIC CUT, AND THEN THE SECOND PHASE, CHANNEL IMPROVEMENTS GET TO, UM, UH, CEDAR BAYOU.

SO THIS IS A BIG PROJECT, BUT UH, THERE ARE FUTURE PHASES THAT GO ALONG WITH IT.

AND THE FUTURE PHASES ARE NOT FUNDED.

UH, AND THEN, UH, WE HAVE A SIMILAR SITUATION IN WEST BAYTOWN.

WE'VE GOT, UH, A LARGE PROJECT, UH, FUNDED IN PART WITH HARRIS COUNTY.

UH, THEY'RE TAKING A LEAD.

IT'S IN DESIGN.

UM, THE FIRST PHASE IS A TRUNK LINE DOWN, UM, OKLAHOMA.

AND, UM, SO THERE ARE FUTURE PHASES THAT WILL CONNECT DOWN THE LINES TO THE OKLAHOMA TRUCK LINE.

UM, THE FUTURE PHASES ARE NOT, YOU KNOW, UH, RIGHT NOW WE ARE OUT OF REALLY DEBT CAPACITY FOR STORMWATER UTILITY PROJECTS.

SO, UM, A FOR THE FORESEEABLE FUTURE, THIS IS OUR GRAND CIP, THOSE TWO, THOSE TWO PROJECTS.

THOSE TWO PROJECTS.

SO IT'S TELL SOME OF OUR DEBT COMES OFF AND WE CAN ISSUE MORE DEBT OR WE COULD GET, YOU KNOW, A HIGHER PERCENTAGE OF A GRANT.

THE HARRIS COUNTY

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THAT'S ALL.

IT'S REALLY NOT , BUT THAT WAS THE WAY THAT WE WERE ABLE TO FIND THE HIGHEST PRIORITY PROJECTS.

THERE'S STILL SOME OTHER PROJECTS THAT NEED TO BE DONE, BUT YOU WOULD'VE TO BE EITHER GRANT FUNDED OR WHEN SOMEONE, THE FIRST PROJECT WE TALKING ABOUT CHANNEL ISSUES, THEY CLEARED, THEY CLEARED THAT CHANNEL OUT FROM, UH, WHAT IS IT, OR WHERE, WHATEVER ROAD THAT IS, THAT'S THROUGH, I CAN'T REMEMBER WHICH.

THEY CLEARED THAT CHANNEL ALL THE WAY TO, TO THE BAYOU.

THAT'S KIND BECAUSE THAT WATER BACKS UP IN OUR, THAT'S THE BIGGEST, THEY HAVE NO EASEMENT BACK THERE.

SO WE HAVE TO GET EASEMENT FROM EACH OF THOSE PROPERTY OWNERS.

THAT'S GONNA BE A LONG, LONG PROCESS.

AND I VOLUNTEERED WHEN WE FIRST STARTED TALKING ABOUT THAT PROJECT, AND I STILL VOLUNTEER.

I'LL GO DOOR.

WE NEED TO GET THOSE EASEMENTS.

'CAUSE THOSE FOLKS THAT WAS HEAVY ON THEIR MINDS IN MY CAMPAIGNS AND THEY WANTED SOMETHING DONE, OKAY, WE'RE HERE TO GET IT DONE.

YOU GOTTA GIVE, GIVE US AN EASEMENT.

THIS IS NEED FROM YOU.

WELL, I DON'T WANT TO GIVE AN EITHER THAT.

I DON'T WANT TO HEAR YOU COMPLAINT.

I'M TRYING TO WORK WITH HARRIS COUNTY TO MAKE THE CHANNEL REASONABLY WITH, UH, RIGHT NOW.

THEY PROPOSED A CHANNEL THAT'S GONNA GO TO THE BACK, EVERYBODY'S HOUSE.

SO, SO WE'RE TRYING TO WORK ON SOMETHING THAT'S REASONABLE THAT, YOU KNOW, WE NOT TO CONDEMN EVERY HOUSE.

THAT WOULD NOT BE GOOD.

IT'S NOT GONNA HAPPEN.

UM, SO WE ARE MAKING PROGRESS THE CHANNEL, LIKE IT'S, BUT I THINK WE'RE GONNA GET THROUGH THAT TRUNK LINE.

UM, SO THE TRUNK LINE DUMPS INTO THE CHANNEL, THAT'S THE PROBLEM.

AND SO, SO YOU'RE GONNA IMPROVE THE TRUNK LINE AND BRING MORE WATER TO THE CHANNEL THAT'S GONNA FLOOD EVERYBODY DOWNSTREAM.

UH, I APPRECIATE THOSE PHONE CALLS.

UH, IT CAN ACT AS INLINE DETENTION THAT, THAT'LL BE THAT INITIAL BENEFIT.

IT'LL BE, THE FLOW WILL BE RESTRICTED.

IT'LL ACT AS INLINE DETENTION.

SO IT WILL HELP MARGINALLY, BUT YOU'RE, YOU'RE TOTALLY RIGHT.

THE FUEL BENEFIT WON'T BE REALIZED UNTIL THE DOWNSTREAM IMPROVE.

IN DISTRICTS ONE, TWO, AND SIX, WE FEEL THE IMPACT OF ALL STORMWATER FROM THREE, FOUR, AND FIVE BECAUSE THEY HAVE 48 AND 60 INCH DRAINS AND THEY COME TO OUR 12 INCH DRAINS AND PEOPLE ONE TO ONE, THE WATER PACKS UP SIX HYDRAULICS.

OKAY.

FRANKS, SIR, I WANT BE MINDFUL OF OUR TIME AND WE'RE GONNA STOP AT FIVE BECAUSE CEREMONY SOME OTHER THING GOING ON.

UM, SO JUST TO TAKE ON, UH, , UM, IT'S, IT IS MORE DIFFICULT TO, YOU KNOW, INVENTORY ALL OF YOUR ASSETS IN, IN A PLANT, UH, AND PLAN FOR THEIR REPLACEMENT.

UH, OUR, WE, WE HAVE A PRETTY GOOD, UH, ASSESSMENT OF OUR, UH, EXISTING, UH, MAIN PLANT.

UH, WE ARE GOING THROUGH AN EXPANSION ON THE EAST PLANT.

UH, SO THAT EXPANSION IS GONNA TAKE MOST OF THE, UH, CAPACITY FOR, FOR POWER SO THAT, YOU KNOW, OTHER CIP PROJECTS WITHIN BOW ARE, BECAUSE OF THAT EXPANSION SO MUCH.

JUST BE MINDFUL OF THAT.

UM, I, I DON'T SEE ANY, UH, MAJOR ISSUES WITH BOW, BUT JUST KNOW THAT THE EXPANSION AND STUFF NEEDED, WE'VE GOT A PRESENTATION TO WORK NEXT, UH, NEXT WEEK, UH, ON WATER DISTRIBUTION.

WE'VE DONE, UH, SO THIS IS, YOU KNOW, ALL THE SMALLER PIPES THAT TAKE THE WATER TO THE CUSTOMERS, AND IT ALSO INCLUDES THE ELEVATED STORAGE TANKS THAT YOU SEE AROUND TOWN.

THERE'S I THINK NINE OF THOSE.

AND THEN, UH, INCLUDES ALL THE FIRE HYDRANTS AND , UH, EQUIPMENT ALONG WITH THE ONE.

UM, WE DID AN ANALYSIS.

UM, SO OUR PIPE, WE THINK IN GENERAL SHOULD LAST A 50 YEAR LIFE CYCLE.

SO THAT MEANS YOU SHOULD BE REPLACING 2% OF YOUR SYSTEM EVERY YEAR.

UH, NOW WE GOT A VALUE ON THE SYSTEM, AND IF YOU DIVIDE BY THE 50 YEAR LIFE, WE SHOULD BE INVESTING $12.4 MILLION WITHIN OUR WATER DISTRIBUTION SYSTEM.

THIS IS ONE OF THE AREAS THAT CAUSE ME THE MOST CONCERN BECAUSE, UM, WHAT WE DO ANNUALLY IS, YOU KNOW, WE BUDGET TO

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AND SO, UH, THERE ARE PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE DEFERRED FOR YEARS.

YEARS.

AND, UH, AND, AND A LOT OF THESE ARE THE, THE, UH, THE ASBESTOS, UH, PIPES THAT WERE PUT IN THE SEVENTIES AND EIGHTIES THAT ARE NOW STARTING TO FAIL MORE OFTEN AND ARE EXPENSIVE TO, YOU KNOW, PLACE.

SO WE'VE HAD A BAYWAY WATERLINE PROJECT THAT WAS, UH, IT WAS ABOUT $16 MILLION BY, BUT I HAVEN'T BEEN ANYTHING FROM THAT BECAUSE THERE'S NO CAPACITY WATER.

AND SO WE KEEP DELAYING THESE THINGS AND, UM, I THINK IT'S GONNA GET WORSE BECAUSE I'M ABOUT TO TALK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THE WASTEWATER COLLECTION AND THE, YOU KNOW, THE LITIGATION WE'RE GOING THROUGH AND WE'RE GONNA BE FORCED TO PUT MONEY INTO THE WASTEWATER COLLECTION.

WE'RE FORCED TO DO THAT.

SO I'M JUST VERY CONCERNED THAT IT'S GONNA TAKE MONEY THAT IS NEEDED IN A WATER DISTRIBUTION.

THAT'S JUST SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT.

UM, YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T WANT, THERE HAVE BEEN COMMUNITIES THAT HAVE DELAYED AND DEFERRED MAINTENANCE, UM, JACKSON, MISSISSIPPI, OR THROUGH PROCESS OF, YOU KNOW, HAVING THEIR SYSTEM FAILED, COMPLETELY FAILED.

THEY HAD TO BE FLINT, MICHIGAN.

ANOTHER, UM, ANOTHER EXAMPLE WHERE THEY, THEY DIDN'T MANAGE THEIR WATER ASSETS.

THAT WAS MORE ISSUE WITH THE LAB WATER.

BUT, UH, IT, IT'S A BIG ISSUE.

SO, UH, IT'S, IT'S SOMETHING I DON'T WANT TO, YOU KNOW, GET PUSHED ASIDE.

I JUST LET YOU KNOW THAT WE HAVE, WE HAVE UNDERINVESTED IN THIS, UH, HISTORICALLY, UH, WASTEWATER COLLECTION IS A SIMILAR, UH, STORY.

UH, IF WE LOOK AT, UH, REPLACING 2% OF THE SYSTEM, IT'S ABOUT $16 MILLION JUST IN THE PIPES.

AND WE'VE DONE A FAIR JOB OF REPLACING WASTEWATER COLLECTION PIPES BECAUSE UNDER THE TCQ AGREED ORDER.

SO WE HAVE PROGRAM IN PLACE AND WE HAVE THAT NOW.

WE'RE GONNA BE UNDER A CONSENT DECREE AND WE'RE GONNA BE FORCED TO INVEST MORE INTO OUR WASTE FOREST.

UH, LIFT STATIONS ARE PART OF WASTEWATER COLLECTION.

UH, THEY HAVE A SHORTER LIFESPAN.

UM, WE CURRENTLY INVEST ABOUT HALF A MILLION DOLLARS IN OUR ANNUAL PROGRAM.

AND THEN WE HAVE SPECIFIC PROJECTS FOR THOSE STATIONS THAT COME UP.

UH, EVERY SO OFTEN.

WE HAD SOME UNDER THE PCQ AGREE DOOR, THOSE ARE BEING COMPLETED.

UM, WE GET OTHER ONES UNDER THE, UH, THE LITIGATION.

SO, UH, JUST LOOK FOR THIS.

BUT FOR, FOR THE ASSET MANAGEMENT, WE SHOULD BE SPENDING, UH, OVER $15 MILLION ANNUAL JUST ON THIS, UH, WASTEWATER TREATMENT.

WE'VE GOT FOUR WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANTS.

UM, APPARENTLY WE, WE, UH, HAVE, YOU KNOW, ONE PLANT THAT WAS REHABIL WENT THROUGH A MAJOR REHABILITATION AFTER IKE.

WE'VE GOT SOME CDBG LOAN FOR THAT.

UH, THAT WAS THE CENTRAL PLAN, UH, AS PART OF HARVEY.

UM, WE'VE GOT SOME FUNDING TO REHABILITATE THE EAST OF, SO WE'VE BEEN VERY FORTUNATE TO GET SOME GRANT FUNDING TO HELP US, UM, WITH OUR WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT.

UM, YOU KNOW, THAT WON'T LAST FOREVER.

AND WE'VE GOT OTHER PLANTS THAT NEED TO BE UPGRADED.

UM, WE ARE USING SOME OF OUR MARKET FUNDS PRIMARILY FOR WASTEWATER TREATMENT AND OUR STATUS SYSTEM.

SO WE'RE PUTTING AS MUCH GRANT MONEY AS WE CAN INTO THAT.

UM, IN THE FUTURE, WE'LL EITHER NEED TO GET SOME MORE GRANT MONEY FOR WHAT THAT INVEST INVESTING, UH, PARKS.

WE HAVE 55 PARKS, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A LOT OF PARKS ALONG THE CITY OF OUR SIDE AND YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A GRAIN PARK SYSTEM.

UH, BUT YOU KNOW, WITH HAVING THOSE ASSETS, YOU HAVE TO MAINTAIN AND YOU HAVE TO INVEST IN.

UM, I KNOW PARKS HAD, I, I CAN'T TALK AS INTELLIGENTLY ON THE PARK SYSTEM, BUT I KNOW THEY HAVE A MASTER PLAN.

UM, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF THEY HAVE, YOU KNOW, FIGURED OUT HOW MUCH WE NEED TO INVEST IN OUR PARK SYSTEM JUST TO MAINTAIN THE LEVEL SERVICE.

SO THAT'S SOMETHING WE'RE LOOKING, UH, DO THROUGHOUT THIS NEXT CIP CYCLE IS

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AND WHEN IT COMES TO PARTS, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO KNOW, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT IS THE LEVEL OF INVESTMENT WANT PARTS.

THAT'S JUST SOMETHING THAT, YEAH, SO IN OUR MASTER PLAN, IT WAS RECENTLY UPDATED 2000 THAT THE FIRST, YEAH, IT'S 2020.

UM, WE DID AN ASSET, UH, ASSESSMENT AS FAR AS OUR MANAGEMENT PLAN, OUR PLAN, UM, ASSESS ALL THE INVENTORY FOR OUR PLAN, ASSESS AND LENGTH MARKS AS PART OF OUR PLAN AND REVIEW MAINTENANCE NEEDS FOR THAT.

AND OUR PLACE, WE HAVE SOME OF THAT DATA IN IT.

WE'RE DOING JUST LIKE FRANK NOW, PUTTING OUR ASSETS INTO CITY WORKS REPLACEMENTS AND UPDATING THE SYSTEM, ANYTHING REPLACE AS FAR AS NEW INFRASTRUCTURE AND ALSO MAP ITEMS THAT WE'RE AWESOME.

SO WE'RE DOING THAT TO KEEP TRACK OF WHERE WE ARE IN THE FACILITY.

WE'RE ALSO ASSESSING SOME OF THOSE NEEDS AND GOING BACK AND TRACKING DATES SO WE MAKE SURE WE ARE TIMELY OR REPLACEMENT TRUCTURE NEEDS FOR OUR OLDER INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WE HAVE.

OKAY, SO JUST WANTED TO SUMMARIZE WHERE WE'RE AT, WHICH WITH EACH OF THE PROGRAMS, UM, ALL FACILITIES, YOU KNOW, WE'VE COMPLETED A MASTER PLAN, BUT WE NEED TO PROGRAM FUNDS FOR ONGOING RENOVATIONS.

UM, TRANSPORTATION.

WE'VE GOT PCI DATA.

WE'RE GONNA GET FEBRUARY AND THEN COME TO YOU WITH A STREET PLAN THAT WILL COVER HOPEFULLY THE NEXT FIVE.

UH, STORMWATER.

WE'VE COMPLETED A MASTER PLAN.

WE HAVE THE HIGH PRIORITY PROJECTS AND PROGRESS.

UH, WE REALLY DON'T HAVE ANY MORE CAPACITY RIGHT NOW, SO, UM, THE ONLY WAY TO DO FUTURE, YOU KNOW, STORM RANGE PROJECTS RIGHT NOW IS TO LOOK AT OUTSIDE FUNDING, UM, WATER TREATMENT.

WE ARE GOING THROUGH, UH, YOU KNOW, EXPANSION OF THE EAST PLANT AND GONNA TAKE MOST OF THE FUNDING OUT OF THE TOP, UH, WATER DISTRIBUTION.

WE, I THINK WE NEED TO DO MORE ANALYTICAL WORK TO, UH, IDENTIFY IN GROUP PROJECTS.

AND AS WE TALK ABOUT THE STREET PLAN, START, UH, MARRYING THE WATER DISTRIBUTION SYSTEM PLAN WITH THE STREET PLAN SO THAT WE'RE DOING A PROJECT THAT, THAT INCLUDES THE STREET, THE WATER, UH, WASTEWATER COLLECTION.

UM, WE'VE GOT A WASTEWATER MODEL.

UH, WE ARE IN NEGOTIATIONS WITH PPA AND DOJ AND YOU, THOSE NEGOTIATIONS ARE GONNA GIVE US A PLAN AND HOW MUCH SPECIFIC PROJECTS AND WHEN THEY HAVE TO BE DONE, ALL THAT.

UH, WASTEWATER TREATMENT.

WE HAVE, UM, YOU KNOW, PROJECTS THAT ARE ONGOING.

WE'VE GOT, UH, OUR EAST DISTRICT PLANT THAT IS CURRENTLY IN DESIGN.

UM, WELL, WE'VE GOT ONE PHASE OF START CONSTRUCTION AND UH, NEXT PHASE IS IN DESIGN.

IT'S, UH, FUNDED WITH CBG TO DO FUTURE PROJECTS.

WE ARE GONNA NEED TO LOOK AT FUTURE GRANTS AND OTHER FUNDING, UH, PARKS.

AS, UH, CORN SAID, WE'VE GOT THE MASTER PLAN COMPLETED.

WE NEED TO DISCUSS WHAT'S GONNA BE OUR DESIRED FUNDING LEVEL AND WHAT'S REQUIRED TO MAINTAIN OUR PARKS DEFINITION.

UM, NEXT STEPS TO IDENTIFY PROJECTS THAT WILL GO INTO THE CIP AND, AND TO REFINE THE CIP THAT WE HAVE TO RANK THE PROJECTS, DETERMINE FUNDING LEVELS FOR EACH PROGRAM, AND THEN PREPARE THE C IT'S A LOT OF WORK, HAVING A LOT OF WORK, BUT IT IS IMPORTANT.

IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT HAD A HUGE IMPACT ON WHAT THE CITY MONEY, WHAT ARE IMPORTANT DECISIONS.

ANY QUESTIONS? NO, JUST THANK YOU FOR BRINGING IT DOWN.

UM, FOR EACH OF THEM.

UM, I THINK IT LAID IT OUT REALLY WELL AND I CAN SEE HOW EVEN, UM, SOME OF OUR RESIDENTS WILL BE ABLE TO KIND OF TAKE A LOOK AT THIS AND UNDERSTAND HOW THE, UM, WORK

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AND WHY THEY HAVE TO WAIT A LITTLE MORE, UM, AS DIFFERENT PROJECTS ARE BEING IMPLEMENTED.

SO THANK YOU.

APPRECIATE EVERYONE WHO WORKED ON THIS.

GOOD.

YOU PULL UP SHOW ONE OF THE DASHBOARDS.

UH, SURE.

I DON'T KNOW IF WE, UH, I DUNNO IF WE HAVE TIME FOR THAT.

I KNOW WE CAN ADJOURN.

OH, OKAY.

OKAY.

OKAY.

OKAY.

SO THE NEXT PHASE IS TALK

[b. Discuss future Baytown Capital Improvement Plan (CIP) meetings, along with any related topics.]

I, I GUESS AS WE MOVE FORWARD, WE STILL WANT TO TRY TO MEET ONCE A MONTH OR AS IT, OR DO WE WANT WAIT TILL THE, THE PCI GETS DONE WITH THAT OR? I THINK WE CAN PROCEED WITH SOME OF THE OTHER CATEGORIES.

UM, BUT IT'LL BE IMPORTANT TO GET THE INFORMATION WE HAVE AVAILABLE NOW IN FRONT OF YOU SO WE CAN START LOOKING AT PRIORITIZATION AND WHAT WE WANT TO DO IN THOSE AREAS.

UM, YOU KNOW, AS WE PROGRESS, YOU KNOW, THERE'LL COME A POINT IN TIME WHEN WE'LL HAVE THE REPORT.

WE'LL BE ABLE TO BREAK THE STREETS OR THE TRANSPORTATION SECTION AT THAT POINT.

UM, BUT I THINK WE CAN START PRETTY MUCH, UM, UM, YOU KNOW, AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.

AND IF WE NEED TO GO TO TWO MEETINGS, UM, WE CAN DO THAT.

UH, OUR GOAL WILL BE TO TRY TO, UH, GET WRAPPED UP BEFORE THE BUDGET PROCESS GETS, UH, TOO FAR DOWN THE ROAD.

LET'S KEEP IT ONCE A MONTH UNTIL, UNLESS WE GET UNDER SOME TIME CONSTRAINTS.

FOUR O'CLOCK COUNCIL DAY IS STILL GOOD.

YOU WANNA DO THE FIRST OR SECOND? I THINK WE SAID FIRST MEETING OR SECOND MEETING.

FORGET WHAT WE DISCUSS.

DISCUSS WHENEVER WE'RE READY.

YEAH.

YEAH, I'M OKAY.

WE HAVE SOME ON FIRST.

YEAH, I JUST DON'T WANNA START DOING 'EM TWICE A MONTH UNTIL WE NEED TO.

THAT'S, I DON'T THINK WE'RE READY FOR ONE THAN TWO WEEKS.

YEAH.

OKAY.

SOUNDS GOOD TO ME.

SAME THURSDAY, FOUR O'CLOCK.

I UNDERSTAND IT'S KIND OF HARD FOR SARAH, BUT YEP.

NO, TODAY I, I HAD A DOCTOR'S APPOINTMENT.

I GET OUT AT THREE 30, SO AS LONG AS IT'S SOMETHING, BUT THANK YOU FOR OKAY.

OTHER THAN THAT, I THINK WE'RE GOOD.

ALRIGHT.

SO 4 58.