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DEAR HEAVENLY FATHER, WE JUST THANK YOU, THANK YOU FOR ANOTHER DAY UNDER YOUR SON.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR GRACE AND MERCY THAT ENDURES AND IT BOUNDS FOREVER.
FATHER, I JUST PRAY AS, AS, UH, WE SIT DOWN TODAY AND MAKE DECISIONS THAT AFFECT OUR CITIZENS IN THIS CITY, THAT YOU GIVE US THE WISDOM FATHER TO MAKE THE WISE CHOICE, FATHER, YOU SAID IN YOUR WORD.
AND IF ANYONE LET LACK WISDOM, LET US ASK.
AND HE GIVE IT TO US LIBERALLY.
SO FATHER, ASK YOU NOW, FOR YOU LIBERALLY GIVE US THE WISDOM TO MAKE DECISIONS, NOT JUST BEHIND THE DIES LORD, BUT IN OUR DAILY LIVES AND, AND, AND THE CITY WORKERS.
AND AS THEY GO OUT AND THEY, AND THEY, THEY LIVE THEIR LIVES AND THEY DO THEIR JOBS, AND THEY RUN THE CITY, THAT THEY HAVE THE WISDOM AND THE INSIGHT TO SOLVE THE PROBLEMS OF THE CITY.
AND HEAVENLY FATHER, WE JUST THANK YOU FOR ALL THESE THINGS.
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OUR FIRST ITEM FOR, FOR CONSIDERATION IS ITEM ONE EIGHT TO CONSIDER APPROVING THE MINUTES OF THE CITY COUNCIL WORK SESSION, A REGULAR MEETING HELD ON MARCH 23RD.I'D ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR APPROVAL.
ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, OR ABSTENTIONS? I HAVE TO ABSTAIN SINCE I WAS NOT PRESENT AT THE MEETING.
SO ALL THOSE IN PAPER ITEM ONE A, UH, INCLUDING THE ONE ABSTENTION, UH, AS WRITTEN, UH, FOR THE MINUTES AS WRITTEN, PLEASE SAY, AYE.
[a. The City of Deer Park Mayor Mouton would like to recognize the City of Baytown and Staff for the cleanup efforts from the January 24, 2023, tornado destruction that was left behind.]
NEXT WE HAVE, UH, ITEM TWO A IS THE CITY OF, UH, DEER PARK MAYOR.MAYOR MUAN IS HERE, AND, UH, HE WOULD LIKE TO RECOGNIZE THE CITY OF BAYTOWN AND STAFF FOR THE CLEANUP EFFORTS FOR THE JANUARY 24TH.
UH, AS YOU KNOW, EARLIER THIS YEAR, THERE WAS TORNADO, A TORNADO THAT CERTAINLY HIT NOT JUST BAYTOWN, BUT CERTAINLY IT WAS AN, I BELIEVE IT MAY, IT WAS AN EF THREE, UH, HIGH SCORE, ALMOST, UH, IN A SENSE, NOT A FIVE, BUT EF THREES AND EVEN THESE TYPE OF TORNADOES ARE NOT, UM, COMMON TO THE GREATER HOUSTON METRO AREA.
BUT UNFORTUNATELY, DEER PARK WAS, WAS A, WAS CENTER STREET, WAS BASICALLY, UH, THE, THE EPICENTER OF, OF SOME, UH, A LOT OF DAMAGE.
AND, AND THANKFULLY, AS I WAS TOLD, THERE WAS AN INJURY OR LOSS OF LIFE.
AND SO, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT I THINK WAS, WAS JUST REMARKABLE IN ITSELF.
SO THE FLOOR IS YOURS, MAYOR, UH, TO MAYOR COUNCIL STAFF.
UH, I HAVE WITH ME, UH, THIS EVENING, UH, SARAH ROBINSON.
I WAS LOOKING OVER THERE AND SHE MOVED ON ME,
UH, SHE'LL EXPLAIN WHERE OUR CITY MANAGER IS IN A MINUTE, BUT, UM, YES, UH, THERE'S, THERE'S A, A COUPLE OF, UM, UH, EVENTS IN, IN LIFE, ESPECIALLY AS MAYOR, THAT WILL ALWAYS STICK IN MY HEAD.
AND OBVIOUSLY JANUARY THE 24TH WILL BE ONE.
AND, UH, MARCH THE 18TH, UH, UH, WILL BE ANOTHER ONE FROM THE MEMORY, UH, THE ITC FIRE EVENT.
AND SO YOU KIND OF SHAPE, UH, YOUR MEMORIES OF, OF DATES THAT KINDA STICK IN YOUR HEAD.
AND, UH, THIS ONE WAS AN UNFORTUNATE INCIDENT, BUT, UH, AS I'VE OFTEN FIGURED OUT IN LIFE AND, AND THE STRUGGLES OR DIFFICULTY, THERE'S ALWAYS SOMETHING THAT COMES OUT OF IT.
AND FOR, FOR, AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO BE HERE, BECAUSE ONE OF THE THINGS THAT CAME OUT OF THIS PARTICULAR EVENT WAS NOT ONLY IN OUR CITY WHERE I WAS LITERALLY AT HOME WHEN IT HAPPENED, I CAME OUTSIDE AND I MEAN, LITERALLY FIVE TO 10 MINUTES LATER, THE SUN WAS BREAKING THROUGH AND YOU'RE LOOKING AROUND LIKE, WHAT JUST HAPPENED? AND NEIGHBORS ARE WALKING OUT AND NEXT THING YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY'S CHECKING ON EACH OTHER AND HELPING PICK UP TRASH.
AND, AND IT WAS, IT WAS PRETTY UNIQUE.
BUT, BUT FOR ME AS MAYOR TO, UH, BE ABLE TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT NOT ONLY WAS NEIGHBOR LITERALLY HELPING NEIGHBORS, BUT CITY WERE HELPING EACH OTHER, AND, AND Y'ALL WERE ONE THAT SENT RESOURCES.
AND I, I, I WAS INTRODUCED, I BELIEVE, TO SOME OF PUBLIC WORKS TODAY.
AND IT WAS PRETTY, UH, HUMBLING AND, AND, UM, AWFULLY MOVING TO DRIVE AROUND DURING THE, THESE FEW WEEKS AND, AND SEE, UH, NINE DIFFERENT CITY TRUCKS, UH, AND CREWS IN, IN, IN OUR MUNICIPALITY, HELPING US PICK UP THAT DEBRIS.
AND IT TOOK WHAT TYPICALLY WOULD'VE TAKEN NO LESS THAN MONTHS TO CLEAN UP AND CONDENSED IT DOWN INTO WEEKS.
AND, UH, IT WAS A GREAT BENEFIT TO OUR CITY.
AND, UM, SO, YOU KNOW, IT, I'VE, WE'VE BEEN TO A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT CITIES AND, AND I, I KEEP REPEATING THIS, BUT IT'S THE TRUTH.
THIS PLAQUE, UH, AS MUCH AS IT IS TO EXPRESS OUR APPRECIATION, DOESN'T FEEL LIKE IT IS JUST IN REGARDS TO WHAT I'M FEELING AT THE MOMENT RIGHT NOW AND EXPRESSING TO YOU HOW MUCH I APPRECIATE Y'ALL'S HELPS AND Y'ALL'S RESOURCES, AND IN ANY ASPECT OF NEIGHBOR CITIES HELPING EACH OTHER, UM, I HOPE Y'ALL NEVER HAVE A SCENARIO WHERE WE HAVE TO COME, BUT IF YOU DO, WE WILL
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BE THERE.AND, UH, I THINK THAT'S, UH, ONE OF THE GREAT THINGS, UH, IT, IT HAPPENED IN, IN MANY DIFFERENT WAYS, AND CITY STAFF OBVIOUSLY KNOWS A LOT OF OTHER CITY STAFF, AND IN SOME CASES THAT, THAT CONNECTION.
BUT I KNOW IN THIS ONE IT WAS JUST, UH, UH, THE MAYOR AND I WERE ON THE PHONE AND HE'S LIKE, WHAT DO YOU NEED? AND OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, IT WAS, IT WAS VERY SPECIFIC.
AND SO I, I SAID, WELL, THIS IS WHAT WE NEED.
AND, AND NEXT THING I KNOW Y'ALL WERE THERE.
AND SO IT'S JUST A, MY, MY FEEBLE ATTEMPT TO SAY THANK YOU BY PRESENTING THIS PLAQUE IS A COMMUNITY SERVICE AWARD PRESENTED TO THE CITY OF BAYTOWN AND GRATEFUL APPRECIATION OF YOUR DEDICATED SERVICES TO, TO THE CITY OF DEER PARK DURING THE TORNADO OF 2023.
AND, UM, WE HAVE HERE, UM, I'M, I'M ONE OF THE MAYORS THAT LIKES PICTURES, YOU KNOW, SO ANY KIND OF PRESENTATION FROM STAFF ALWAYS SAY, YOU KNOW, ADD PICTURES.
SO THIS WAS SOMETHING I ASKED STAFF TO PUT TOGETHER, AND IT'S A PICTURE OF, OF EVERY CITY THAT WAS THERE AND SOME OF THEIR VEHICLES IN A COLLAGE.
AND I, I HOPE IT MEANS TO YOU TO SOME EX ASPECT OF WHAT IT MEANS TO US, BUT IT WAS PRETTY AMAZING TO SEE THE UNIFIED EFFORT OF NINE DIFFERENT CITIES AND, AND WORKING TOGETHER FOR COMMON CAUSE, WHICH IS OUR COMMUNITY.
SO, UM, I, I, I WOULD LIKE OUR ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER COME SAY A FEW WORDS.
UH, SHE, SHE AND JAY ALWAYS SEEM TO ADD A DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE FROM STAFF'S, UH, POINT OF VIEW.
UM, SO I'M GONNA SPEAK ON BEHALF OF JAY FIRST.
UH, I HAD PLANNED TO, IN A VERY POLITE AND POLITICALLY CORRECT WAY, UH, STATE THAT HE UNFORTUNATELY HAD A PRIOR ENGAGEMENT THAT HE COULD NOT RESCHEDULE.
UM, BUT NOW WE WILL, I'LL GO AHEAD AND TELL YOU THAT HE GOT ON A CRUISE SHIP,
AND, UH, SO HE'S ENJOYING A MUCH EARNED VACATION, UH, AND WE, WE APPLAUD HIM FOR DOING SO.
UM, BUT IF HE WERE HERE, HE WOULD SPEAK ON THE IMPORTANCE OF THE TYPES OF RELATIONSHIPS THAT WE HAVE.
UM, I KNOW SIMILAR TO MAYOR MUTAN AND MAYOR CAPRIO'S RELATIONSHIP, UM, JAY HAS SUCH A LONG STANDING HISTORY WITH MR. REYNOLDS AND MR. GARY, UM, WITH ALL, EVERYTHING THAT THEY'VE DONE IN TCMA, UM, AND HAVING THOSE TYPES OF RESOURCES, UM, REALLY GOES A LONG WAY.
AND HE, HE DEFINITELY THANKS YOU.
UM, AND ONE THING HE WANTED ME TO MAKE SURE I MENTIONED WAS THAT HIS OWN PERSONAL DEBRIS AT HIS HOME WAS PICKED UP BY BAY TOWN'S GRAPPLER TRUCK.
AND, UH, THAT'S SOMETHING HE'LL ALWAYS REMEMBER, AND HE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT I THANKED YOU FOR THAT.
SO, UM, FOR ME PERSONALLY, TYPICALLY WHAT I'VE BEEN SAYING WHENEVER WE GO TO THESE CITIES IS THAT UNFORTUNATELY WE'RE ALL VERY FAMILIAR WITH RESPONDING TO EVENTS LIKE A HURRICANE.
IT'S VERY UNFORTUNATE THAT WE'RE QUITE GOOD AT THAT AT THIS POINT.
UM, BUT TORNADOES, AS YOU CAN IMAGINE, ARE QUITE DIFFERENT.
UM, EXCEPT YOU DON'T HAVE TO IMAGINE YOU, UH, EXPERIENCE THE IMPACT OF THIS FOR YOURSELVES.
AND, UH, IT'S INCREDIBLY MEANINGFUL FOR US THAT WHILE YOU WERE DEALING WITH YOUR OWN, UM, RESPONSE TO THIS DISASTER, YOU NOT ONLY RECOGNIZED THAT THE IMPACT ON OUR CITY AND OUR CONSTITUENTS WAS INCREDIBLY DRASTIC CONSIDERING OUR SIZE AND THE GEOGRAPHICAL, UM, PATH OF THIS STORM.
BUT, UH, NOT ONLY DID YOU RECOGNIZE, ACKNOWLEDGE THAT, BUT THEN YOU SENT RESOURCES FOR US AS WELL.
UM, AND SINCE YOU WENT THROUGH THIS EVENT, UM, YOU ALSO KNOW THAT WE ALL KNOW WHAT IT TAKES TO, TO MANAGE THIS TYPE OF AN EVENT, OF AN EVENT BEHIND THE SCENES.
UM, THE EOC STAFF, IT'S SO MUCH MORE THAN JUST DEBRIS PICKUP, BUT THAT'S WHAT THE CITIZENS SEE.
THEY SEE OUR CREWS OUT IN THE STREETS PICKING UP ALL OF THE DAMAGE THAT OCCURRED TO THEIR HOMES AND ON THEIR PROPERTY.
UM, AND WE COULD NOT HAVE HAD THE TYPE OF RESPONSE WE HAD IN 10 DAYS IF ALL OF OUR NEIGHBORING CITIES, WHICH INCLUDES YOU, UM, IF Y'ALL HADN'T SHOWN UP AND HELPED US.
AND, UH, SO I WANNA THANK MAYOR AND COUNCIL STAFF, UM, AND ESPECIALLY THAT YOUR COMMUNITY, BECAUSE YOU TOOK YOUR OWN RESOURCES, UM, AND SENT THEM TO US WHEN Y'ALL COULD HAVE USED THEM FOR YOURSELVES.
AND, UM, COMING TO SAY THANK YOU, AND THE PICTURE AND THE PLAQUE ARE, ARE DEFINITELY NOT ENOUGH.
UH, THE COMMENTS I'D LIKE TO MAKE WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, CERTAINLY, UM, MAYOR MUTAN AND MYSELF AND, AND THE AREA MAYORS, WE, WE HAVE A LOT OF COMMON INTERESTS AND, AND WE CONTINUE TO GO AND, AND, UH, COMMUNICATE WELL, UH, FOR A STRONG EAST EAST HARRIS COUNTY.
AND, UH, BUT WITH THAT, YOU KNOW, WHEN SOME, WHEN, AS YOU SAID, WHEN, WHEN ANOTHER COMMUNITY IS HURTING, I'M JUST A LACE.
I, I HAVE TO SAY REALLY ALL THE CREDIT IN ACTUALITY, UH, ALTHOUGH WE HAVE LINES OF COMMUNICATION AMONGST EACH OTHER AS ELECTED OFFICIALS, UH, IT IS OUR CITY MANAGER.
IT'S CERTAINLY YOURSELF AND JAY IN DEER PARK.
UH, UH, OUR PUBLIC WORKS WITH, UH, MR. SEMINO AND HIS STAFF.
AND, YOU KNOW, I WILL TELL YOU, OUR PUBLIC WORKS CREW, I KNOW YOU HAVE SOME GREAT ONES, BUT OUR PUBLIC WORKS CREW, I MEAN, THEY GO TO RODEOS AND THEY WIN AWARDS,
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UH, WITH MACHINERY THAT HAVE HEAVY EQUIPMENT OPERATORS.AND SO WE'RE VERY PROUD OF THEM.
AND SO TO GO AND, AND, UM, TO BE ABLE TO HAVE THOSE RESOURCES AND HAVE 'EM AVAILABLE TO OUR NEIGHBORS.
WE WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT, YOU PROBABLY MISSED A LITTLE BIT.
WE TALK ABOUT WHEN THESE EVENTS HAPPEN, HURRICANES, WHATEVER, HOW OUR COMMUNITY BAYTOWN AND DEER PARK'S NO DIFFERENT.
WE GO AND WE, WE, WE, WE GET OURSELVES OUT THERE.
WE HELP EACH OTHER AS BEST WE CAN WITH WHATEVER WE HAVE, RIGHT? AND IT'S NO DIFFERENT CITY AMONG CITY.
WHEN IT WAS ITC OUR HAZMAT CREWS WERE THERE STANDING BY, YOU KNOW, 'CAUSE WE WERE, WE COULD BE AT RISK TOO.
IT COULD, YOU KNOW, WINDS COULD HAVE CHANGED.
UM, AND DURING THAT TIMEFRAME, YOU KNOW, SO MAYOR, AS YOU KNOW, WE'RE ALWAYS PROTECTIVE, OUR CITIES.
AND WHEN THE EVENTS LIKE THIS HAPPEN, UM, SOMETIMES WE NEED HELP.
AND WE WERE, WE WERE CERTAINLY GLAD TO GO AND HAVE RESOURCES THAT, THAT COULD HELP YOU.
I KNOW LAPORTE,
DON'T HAVE THAT RIVAL, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE THAT SAME RIVALRY ANYMORE.
BUT, UH, BUT CERTAINLY ALL, ALL THE COMMUNITY, AS YOU KNOW, UM, SOME OF THE MAYORS, UM, I THINK WERE CALLED THE EAST SIDE MAFIA IN SOME CASES, UH, WHERE THESE MAYORS WERE PRETTY TIGHT AND, AND, UH, WE WANT A STRONG AREA.
AND, AND SO WE'RE JUST GLAD THAT THESE WORST RESOURCES WERE AVAILABLE.
SO, UH, IF, IF I WOULD ASK COUNCIL TO JOIN ME AND THE MAYOR AND STAFF AND, AND MR. SIMINO AND, AND THE CITY MANAGER, WE CAN COME TAKE A PICTURE DOWN, DOWN THERE WITH YOU, PLEASE.
AND THE PRETTY PICTURES, PLEASE.
I, I WOULD NORMALLY DISAGREE WITH YOU ABOUT STAFF, AND YOU ALWAYS DISAGREE WITH ME, BUT, BUT IN THIS PARTICULAR SCENARIO, I AGREE WHOLEHEARTEDLY THAT YOUR, YOUR STAFF IS SECOND TO NINE IN REGARDS TO THEIR SUPPORT OF THIS.
BUT IN A NORMAL SCENARIO, I, I, I WOULD'VE PUSHED BACK A LITTLE BIT.
I HOPE YOU UNDERSTAND THAT ONE, ONE MAYOR, THANK YOU, SIR.
EVERYBODY ELSE JUST NEEDS I HIT MY MARK.
OH, WE ARE FLOATING HEAD
[b. Present a proclamation designating April 9-15, 2023, as National Public Safety Telecommunicators Week.]
OUR NEXT ITEM IS, UH, WE HAVE A PRESENTATION, A PRESENTATION OF A PROCLAMATION, UH, DESIGNATING APRIL 9TH TO THE 15TH AS NATIONAL PUBLIC SAFETY TELE TELECOMMUNICATORS WEEK.SO MYSELF AND, AND, UH, POLICE CHIEF WILL BE HERE WHILE I, OR DOWN THERE WHILE I READ THE PROCLAMATION BE.
BEFORE I READ THE PROCLAMATION, WHAT I WANTED TO DO IS JUST THANK, THANK EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU, CERTAINLY, UH, UH, POLICE CHIEF AND ALL THE STAFF, BUT CERTAINLY OUR 9 1 1 OPERATORS.
REALLY, YOU KNOW, WHEN, WHEN US AS A CITY, WHEN OUR CITIZENS THAT WE HAVE SOMETHING THAT'S GOING ON IN EMERGENCY, UH, COULD BE A THREAT, POLICE THREAT, HEALTH ISSUE, WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE, YOU ARE OUR FIRST LINE OF DEFENSE.
YOU HAVE TO GO TRIAGE THE CALL AND GO AND PROVIDE AND, AND MAKE A, MAKE A DECISION ON THE RESOURCES THAT WILL BE DEPLOYED.
THAT CERTAINLY TAKES A KNOWLEDGEABLE, UM, INDIVIDUAL.
AND SO, UM, FOR THIS WEEK, WE'RE CERTAIN, NOT JUST THIS WEEK, BUT EVERY DAY.
I MEAN, YOU, YOU'RE THE FIRST, YOU'RE THE FIRST PERSON.
PEOPLE CALL AND, AND WE NEED EXPERTS.
WE NEED PEOPLE WHO, WHO UNDERSTAND WHAT'S HAPPENING ON THE OTHER END.
I KNOW ANYTIME I'LL CALL 9 1 1.
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A LOT OF QUESTIONS.AND THERE, THERE'S A REASON FOR THAT.
IT'S, WE WANNA MAKE SURE THE RIGHT RESOURCES WE ARE GONNA GO AND BE DEPLOYED.
AND SO, UM, I KNOW IT'S, IT'S AN YOU'RE, YOU'RE BASICALLY RECEIVING A CALL WHEN SOMEONE IS IN CRISIS.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S A HARD, UM, SITUATION TO BE IN.
SO I JUST WANTED TO THANK YOU FOR, FOR GOING CERTAINLY JUST NOT JUST WORKING FOR CITY OF BAYTOWN, BUT FOR OUR CITIZENS.
AND SO WITH THAT, I'LL READ THIS PROCLAMATION AND CHIEF, I'M SO GLAD THAT, YOU KNOW, UM, MANY YEARS THEY WERE KIND OF ON THEIR OWN.
AND, UH, I, I CERTAINLY THINK IT WAS CERTAINLY A BENEFIT WHEN, WHEN THIS IS BROUGHT UNDER, UM, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT ITSELF.
SO THIS IS A PROCLAMATION FOR NATIONAL PUBLIC SAFETY TELE COMMUNICATIONS WEEK.
SO WHEREAS PUBLIC SAFETY TELECOMMUNICATORS OF THE BAYTOWN EMERGENCY COMMUNICATIONS CENTER, WHO PROCESS ON AVERAGE OVER 500,000 TELEPHONE CALLS PER YEAR ARE THE FIRST AND MOST CRITICAL CONTACT OUR CITIZENS HAVE WITH, WITH BAY TOWN'S EMERGENCY SERVICES.
THE SAFETY OF OUR POLICE OFFICERS, FIREFIGHTERS, AND PARAMEDICS IS DEPENDENT UPON THE QUALITY AND ACCURACY OF INFORMATION OBTAINED BY ALL EMERGENCY COMMUNICATION.
TELECOMMUNICATORS FROM CITIZENS WHO, WHO TELEPHONE THE BAYTOWN EMERGENCY COMMUNICATIONS CENTER, THE PUBLIC SAFETY TELECOMMUNICATORS OF THE BAYTOWN EMERGENCY COMMUNICATION CENTER HAVE CONTRIBUTED SIGNIFICANTLY TO THE APPREHENSION OF CRIMINALS, SUPPRESSION OF FIRE, AND THE TREATMENT OF PATIENTS IN LIFE-THREATENING SITUATIONS.
WHEREAS EACH TELECOMMUNICATOR, THE UNSEEN INDIVIDUAL PRO, PROVIDING A CALM VOICE WHEN EMERGENCIES ARISE, HAS EXHIBITED COMPASSION, EMPATHY, AND PROFESS PROFESSIONALISM, KEEPING OUR COMMUNITY AND OUR CITIZENS SAFE.
SO NOW, THEREFORE, I, BRANDON CAP IS MAYOR OF THE BAY.
THE MAYOR OF CITY OF BAYTOWN, TEXAS.
DUE, HEREBY PROCLAIM THE WEEK OF APRIL 9TH THROUGH THE 15TH 2023 AS NATIONAL PUBLIC SAFETY TELE COMMUNICATIONS WEEK AND IN BAYTOWN AND URGE ALL OUR CITIZENS TO HONOR THE EMPLOYEES OF OUR EMERGENCY COMMUNICATIONS CENTER AND RECOGNIZE THEM FOR THEIR DILIGENCE AND PROFESSIONALISM IN HELPING TO KEEP OUR CITIZENS AND BAYTOWN SAFE AND OUR EMPLOYEES AND OUR VISITORS.
YOU NOT GONNA BE IN THE MIDDLE
THAT'S A OUT THE OW I MESSED IT UP.
FACE IS LIKE AWKWARDLY BECAUSE YOU DON'T, YEAH.
SO I'D LIKE TO INTRODUCE, UM, A REPRESENTATIVE FROM HARRIS COUNTY 9 1 1.
IF YOU COULD JUST SAY A FEW WORDS, 'CAUSE YOU GET TO WORK WITH THESE FOLKS AND YOU UNDERSTAND THE SYSTEM THAT REALLY BAYTOWN AND CERTAINLY HARRIS COUNTY CITIZENS, HOW, HOW THAT ALL WORKS TOGETHER.
IF YOU CAN JUST SAY A FEW THINGS, INTRODUCE YOURSELF.
SONYA CLAWSON WITH GREATER HARRIS COUNTY 9 1 1.
UH, TRULY HONORED TO BE HERE AND I WOULD LIKE TO THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING ONE OF THE FEW CITIES THAT IS, UH, RECOGNIZING THE TELECOMMUNICATORS.
UH, WE CALL THEM THE, THEY ARE THE TRULY THE VITAL LINK BETWEEN YOUR RESIDENTS WHO, UH, WHO NEED HELP RIGHT AWAY AND YOUR RESPONDERS IN YOUR COMMUNITY.
UH, WE SERVICE ALL OF THE GREATER HARRISON, FORT BEND COUNTY AREA, UH, AND YOUR CENTER IS ONE OF OUR 37 CALL CENTERS, UH, THAT ARE, UM, HANDLING, UM, THESE EMERGENCY CALLS.
SO WE COULDN'T BE MORE PROUD OF THESE FOLKS HERE AND THE WORK THAT THEY DO, UH, THEY'RE A TRULY, UH, THE, UM, THE BIGGEST MULTITASKERS THAT WE KNOW, RIGHT, THAT ARE GONNA TRY TO GET US HELP RIGHT AWAY.
SO AGAIN, THANK YOU AND THANK YOU FOR RECOGNIZING THESE VALUABLE FOLKS.
[a. Conduct a public hearing concerning a proposed text amendment to the Unified Land Development Code (ULDC) to move landscaping standards from Chapter 18 of the Code of Ordinances to Appendix-A - Unified Land Development Code.]
ALL RIGHT.SO NEXT WE HAVE ITEM THREE A, WHICH IS A PUBLIC HEARING.
THE PUBLIC HEARING TODAY IS BEING HELD FOR THE PURPOSE OF GIVING ALL INTERESTED PERSONS THE RIGHT TO EXPRESS THEIR VIEWS REGARDING THE SUBJECT OF OF THE PUBLIC HEARING.
EVERYONE DESIRING TO BE PART OF TODAY'S HEARING SHOULD HAVE EITHER SIGNED THE APPROPRIATE LIST IN THE FOYER OR EMAILED THE CITY CLERK PRIOR TO THE POSTED TIME OF THIS MEETING.
EACH PARTICIPANT SHALL GIVE HIS OR HER NAME AND ADDRESS IN ORDER TO PROVIDE A PROPER RECORD OF THESE HEARINGS.
THE RULES ALLOW EACH PERSON THREE MINUTES TO PRESENT INFORMATION.
HOWEVER, I ENCOURAGE EVERYONE TO BE AS BRIEF AND TO THE POINT AS POSSIBLE.
IF YOU ARE A GROUP OF PERSONS WISHING TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL ON THE SAME SUBJECT, PLEASE SELECT A SPOKESPERSON TO PRESENT THE INFORMATION.
AND IF ANYONE HAS ANY QUESTIONS, PLEASE DIRECT THEM TO ME.
SO IT IS NOW 6:52 PM AND I'M CALLED TO ORDER THIS PUBLIC HEARING CONCERNING THE PROPOSED TEXT AMENDMENTS TO THE LAND DEVELOPMENT, UH, THE UNIFIED LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, ALSO KNOWN AS ULDC
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AND THE CODE OF ORDINANCES, BAYTOWN, TEXAS.SO I'D ASK STAFF TO SUMMARIZE THE SUBJECT MATTER OF THIS PUBLIC HEARING.
UH, MARTIN SCRIBNER PLANNING DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.
UM, AS YOU'LL REMEMBER SOMETIME LAST YEAR IN AN EFFORT TO, UH, KINDA GET READY FOR THE FULL UPDATE TO OUR, UH, UNIFIED LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, AS WELL AS JUST TRYING TO MAKE THE, GET ALL THE REGULATIONS IN THE SAME PLACE.
MAKE 'EM A LITTLE BIT EASIER TO FIND, A LITTLE BIT EASIER TO NAVIGATE.
WE MOVED EVERYTHING THAT WAS DEVELOPMENT RELATED INTO THE ODC.
UM, THERE WERE A COUPLE OF LITTLE THINGS THAT KIND OF GOT SHUFFLED.
IT WAS AN ENORMOUS AMOUNT OF INFORMATION.
SO ONE OF THE ITEMS THAT WE MISSED, THERE WAS SOME MINOR LANDSCAPING REQUIREMENTS THAT ARE LOCATED IN CHAPTER 18, WHICH IS THE BUILDING CODE.
AND WE ARE ASKING TO MOVE THAT TO THE ULDC WHERE IT SHOULD BE.
UH, AGAIN, IT'S A CLEANUP ITEM.
WE'RE NOT, UM, ASKING TO CHANGE ANYTHING SUBSTANTIAL, WE'RE JUST MOVING IT TO ANOTHER PLACE.
WE DID HAVE THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR THIS AT, UH, PLANNING AND ZONING IN FEBRUARY AND THERE WERE NO COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC.
AND, UH, IT RECEIVED A POSITIVE RECOMMENDATION TO THIS BOARD, UH, FOR APPROVAL.
SO WITH THAT, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING THIS SUBJECT MATTER, UH, OF STAFF? I BELIEVE, IS THERE ANYONE THAT, THAT SIGNED UP? IF NOT, THERE BE NO ONE DESIRING TO SPEAK ON.
I CLOSE TO THE PUBLIC HEARING THIS PUBLIC HEARING CONCERNING THE PROPOSED TAX AMENDMENTS TO THE LDC IN THE CODE OF ORANGES BAYTOWN, TEXAS.
[b. Consider an ordinance concerning a proposed text amendment to the Unified Land Development Code (ULDC) to move landscaping standards from Chapter 18 of the Code of Ordinances to Appendix-A - Unified Land Development Code.]
WITH THAT, WE MOVE ON TO ITEM THREE B TO CONSIDER AN ORDINANCE CONCERNING A PROPOSED TAX AMENDMENT, UH, WHICH WAS EXPLAINED TO YOU IN THE PREVIOUS ITEM.SO I'D ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR ITEM THREE B.
MR. MAYOR, I HAVE ONE QUICK OKAY.
QUESTION BEFORE WE MAKE A MOTION ON THIS CHART HERE.
THE EXISTING TREE CALIPER AND TREE CREDIT, I THINK THAT SECOND LINE THERE, MAYBE JUST STRIKE THE WORD OVER, IS THAT NEEDED THERE? IT WOULD JUST BE SIX TO 12 AND THEN OVER 12, RIGHT? YES, THAT'S CORRECT.
SO I BELIEVE THAT TO BE A TYPO.
OKAY, WE'LL, WE'LL DOUBLE CHECK THAT IN THE ORDINANCE AND MAKE SURE THAT'S CORRECT.
WELL THEN I'LL MAKE A MOTION WE APPROVE THIS CHANGE WITH THAT CORRECTION.
WE HAVE A MOTION TO SECOND ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS IF NOT ALL THOSE, UM, IN FAVOR OF ITEM THREE B AS PRESENTED, PLEASE SAY AYE.
[a. Consider an ordinance authorizing a limited variance to Section 6-2 of the Code of Ordinances, to allow Chapala Jalisco Taqueria, a restaurant located at 1200 Market Street, to sell alcohol for on-premises consumption within 300 feet in a direct line from the property line of a public school located at 1415 Market Street, Baytown, Texas.]
WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM FOUR A IS CONSIDERED ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING A LIMITED VARIANCE THROUGH SECTION 6.6 DASH TWO OF THE CODE OF ORDINANCES TO ALLOW CHILD PACO ILLA A RESIDENT, A RESTAURANT LOCATED AT 1200 MARKET STREET TO SELL ALCOHOL ON-PREMISE FOR ON-PREMISE CONSUMPTION WITHIN 300 FEET IN A, IN DIRECT LINE FROM THE PROPERTY LINE OF A PUBLIC SCHOOL LOCATED AT 1415 MARKET STREET, BAYTOWN, TEXAS.SO I'M NOT SURE IF LEGAL OR IF THERE'S ANYONE ELSE, UM, BESIDES THE APPLICANT THAT HAS ANY COMMENTS ON THIS ITEM.
UPON RECEIPT AND REVIEW OF THE APPLICATION, THE CODE ENFORCEMENT DETERMINED THAT THIS LOCATION FAILED TO MEET THE DISTANCE REQUIREMENTS OUTLINED IN THE CITY'S CODE.
SECTION SIX DASH 2 81 REQUIRES THAT THE CELL OF ALCOHOL MUST BE 300 FEET FROM SCHOOLS, STATE CARES AND HOSPITALS.
WITH THIS IN MIND, AND AS SHOWN ON THE MAP, THE LOCATION IN QUESTION IS ABOUT 110 FEET WHEN MEASURED FROM PROPERTY LINE TO PROPERTY LINE.
AND IT IS LOCATED DIRECTLY ACROSS FROM BICENTENNIAL PARK, WHICH IS OWNED BY GOOSE CREEK, ISD AND ALSO HOUSES THE IMPACT EARLY COLLEGE HIGH SCHOOL.
SO WE ARE HERE TODAY BECAUSE MR. LOPEZ FILED A REQUEST FOR VARIANCE UNDER SECTION 1 0 9 0.33 OF THE TEXAS ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE CODE WITH THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE.
DUE TO THE DENIAL OF HIS APPLICATION, AS THIS VARIANCE REQUEST IMPACTS THE GOOSE CREEK SCHOOL DISTRICT, THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE SENT WRITTEN NOTICE OF THIS VARIANCE REQUEST.
AND SINCE THEN, THE DISTRICT SUPERINTENDENT, DR. RANDY O'BRIEN, HAS NOTIFIED US THAT THEY DO NOT OBJECT TO THE VARIANCE BEING ISSUED TO MR. LOPEZ FOR HIS BUSINESS.
STAFF HAS NO POSITION ON WHETHER OR NOT TO GRANT THE VARIANCE IN QUESTION.
HOWEVER, STAFF IS RESPONSIBLE FOR ENFORCING THE RULES AND REGULATIONS AS APPROVED BY COUNCIL.
AND AT THIS POINT IN TIME, THIS LOCATION DOES NOT COMPLY WITH THE CITY'S ALCOHOL CODE.
MR. LOPEZ IS PRESENT AT TONIGHT'S MEETING ALONG WITH HIS NEPHEW.
HE WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A FEW COMMENTS AND IS AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
OKAY, MA'AM, I DO APPRECIATE THE, THE, THE COMMENTS YOU MADE.
LET ME, I I WANNA MAKE SURE I'M CLEAR.
SO IS IT PROPERTY LINE, A PROPERTY LINE? THAT IS THE MEASUREMENT THAT IS YOU,
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I GUESS EITHER OUR OR ORDINANCE OR TABC ORDINANCE.UH, 'CAUSE IT SAYS 277 FEET FROM IMPACT HIGH SCHOOL.
SO THAT'S WHERE THERE'S ACTUALLY SCHOOL, SCHOOL AGED CHILDREN.
AND THEN OBVIOUSLY 110 FEET FROM THE BICENTENNIAL PARK PROPERTY.
SO I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT COUNSEL CAN SEE THAT THAT IS, WE'RE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT 277 FEET, THE VARIANCE WHAT, WHAT THRESHOLD FOR THAT IS 303 FEET.
SO, UM, SO ANYWAY, UM, IS THERE ANYBODY THAT HAS ANY QUESTIONS, I GUESS EITHER FOR THE APPLICANT? I THINK, UM, CITY MANAGER WAS GOING JUST, I WANTED TO FURTHER COMMENT, MAYOR, THAT THE, UM, THAT DR. O'BRIEN DID GIVE ME A CALL, UH, THAT THE SCHOOL BOARD DID SUBMIT THEIR LETTER.
THEY SUBMITTED THEIR LETTER FOR APPROVAL AND HE WANTS THE COUNCIL TO KNOW THAT THE SCHOOL BOARD, FROM HIS POINT OF VIEW AND WITH DISCUSSION WITH THE BOARD THAT THEY DO, UM, THEY ARE OKAY WITH, WITH BUSINESSES THAT ARE 51% OR MORE IN FOOD CELLS.
THEY DO NOT, THEY, THEY DO NOT ADVOCATE FOR ANYTHING THAT IS 51% IN ALCOHOL.
SO, AND THEY'RE OKAY WITH THIS.
I MEAN, I, THAT'S A VERY, UH, REASONABLE, OBVIOUSLY POLICY.
SO IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS EITHER FOR THE APPLICANT OR ANYONE ELSE? UM, I DO HAVE A QUESTION FOR STAFF.
UM, AND YOU TALKED ABOUT THE ENFORCEMENT.
UM, SO IS THERE A BURDEN ON, UM, STAFF OR DO TO DO THE ENFORCEMENT OR? I, I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND THAT, THAT COMMENT IN TERMS OF THE ENFORCEMENT.
SO WHEN THE BUILDING SERVICES DIVISION WENT OUT TO DO THE MEASUREMENT FOR THE, TO SEE IF IT MET THE REQUIREMENT OF THE 300 FEET MM-HMM
THEY FAILED THE INSPECTION 'CAUSE IT DIDN'T MEET THAT REQUIREMENT.
BUT IN TERMS OF ENFORCEMENT OR TO, UM, GO AND CHECK TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE NOT DOING ANY MORE THAN THE 50% OR WHAT IS IT THAT'S, THAT'S A, THAT'S REGULATED BY YEAH.
BELOW THE 51 THAT'S REGULATED BY TNBC.
AND SO, UM, I THINK FOR ME, MAYOR, I DID SPEAK, UM, TO CITY MANAGER ON THIS BECAUSE ANYTIME I DO SEE, UM, AN APPLICATION, UH, THAT HAS ALCOHOL NEAR A SCHOOL, THAT RAISES A RED FLAG TO ME.
UM, BUT I DO APPRECIATE THE SCHOOL DISTRICT SUBMITTING, UM, THE LETTER OF SUPPORT BECAUSE THEY WOULD BE THE ONES IMPACTED.
SO I LOOK AT THAT, UM, TO ENSURE THAT THEY'RE HAPPY WITH IT, THEY'RE OKAY WITH IT.
UM, BUT THE SECOND THING THAT I REALLY LIKED IS THAT THIS IS A LIMITED VARIANCE.
SO, UM, ALTHOUGH WE DO WANT, UM, THIS RESTAURANT TO CONTINUE AND PROSPER, UH, IN THE AREA, IF FOR WHATEVER REASON, UM, THEY ARE NO LONGER THERE, THEN THAT APPLICATION, UH, OR THE, THE ALCOHOL, IF I'M UNDERSTANDING CORRECTLY, THE PERMIT IN A SENSE IS INVALIDATED.
AND SO IT WOULD COME BACK TO COUNCIL SHOULD A NEW PROPRIETOR WANT TO SET UP, UM, A SIMILAR TYPE OF BUSINESS.
SO, UM, THAT MAKES ME MORE COMFORTABLE AS WELL.
AND SO I KNOW FROM MY END, UM, I'M USUALLY THE ONE THAT SPEAKS UP WHEN AN ALCOHOL COMES IN.
AND SO I'M, I'M COMFORTABLE WITH IT, MAYOR.
IS THERE ANY, ANY MORE COMMENTS? YES.
ALL UP WITH MY COLLEAGUE THAT'S 'CAUSE SHE HAD MENTIONED THAT TO ME AND I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY THAT THAT IS CORRECT.
COUNCIL MEMBER, THESE, UH, PERMITS ARE BY LANDOWNER.
SO IF THERE'S CHANGE IN OWNERSHIP, THEN UH, THE PERMISSION DIES.
I WILL ASSUME THE APPLICANT OR THE, THE, UM, ALCOHOL PERMIT HIMSELF.
ALRIGHT, SO WITH THAT THEN I WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR ITEM FOUR.
ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS, IF NOT ALL? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF ITEM FOUR A IS PRESENTED.
UH, FOR THIS VARIANCE, PLEASE SAY AYE.
FOR THOSE OPPOSED, ITEM CARRIES.
[b. Discuss and consider revisions to Chapter 74, "Peddlers and Solicitors," of the City of Baytown Code of Ordinances.]
ON TO ITEM FOUR B, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER REVISIONS TO CHAPTER 74 PILLARS AND SOLICITORS.SOLICITORS OF THE CITY OF BAYTOWN.
GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
UM, THIS ITEM IS A FOLLOW UP, UH, FROM THE LAST COUNCIL MEETING THAT WAS HELD ON MARCH THE 23RD IN REFERENCE TO THE OPEN AIR VENDOR ORDINANCE THAT'S FOUND IN CHAPTER 74 OF THE CODE OF ORDINANCES.
AT THAT PREVIOUS MEETING, STAFF WAS DIRECTED TO BRING BACK TWO DRAFTS.
UH, ONE OF THE DRAFTS WAS TO ELIMINATE ALL THE OPEN AIR VENDORS.
UM, AND SO IF THAT WAS THE CHOICE MADE BY COUNSEL, ESSENTIALLY WHAT YOU WOULD HAVE LEFT IN CHAPTER 74 IS THE REQUIREMENTS FOR WHAT'S CALLED AN ITINERANT MERCHANT, UH, VENDOR, WHICH IS THE, ALSO KNOWN AS THE DOOR-TO-DOOR SALES VENDORS.
UM, BUT ASIDE FROM THAT, ALL THE REFERENCES TO THE OPEN AIR VENDOR AND THE REQUIREMENTS WOULD BE, UH, ELIMINATED IF YOU GUYS CHOOSE TO GO WITH THAT CHOICE.
UM, THE BOTTOM LINE REALLY FOR THAT PARTICULAR DRAFT WOULD BE, IT'LL
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BE EASIER TO ENFORCE.UM, IT ELIMINATES THE POTENTIAL FLEET MARKET TYPE VENDORS AND IT ALSO SUPPORTS THE BRICK AND MORTAR COMMERCIAL BUSINESSES, BUSINESSES THAT HAVE A C OF O.
UM, REALLY THE ONLY CONSEQUENCE THAT IT IS, UH, OBVIOUS IT WOULD ELIMINATE THE OPEN AIR VENDORS.
UH, THE SECOND DRAFT IS, UH, I BELIEVE YOU, YOU MAY HAVE A, A COPY OF THAT IN THE CHANGES.
UM, THAT SECOND DRAFT BASICALLY STATES THAT, UM, IT PROPOSES TO EXPAND THE LENGTH OF THE PERMIT, UM, WITH TWO NON-CONSECUTIVE 60 DAY PERMITS, UH, WHICH IN, IN EFFECT DOUBLES THE AMOUNT OF SALES TIME.
'CAUSE CURRENTLY THERE'S TWO 30 DAY PERMITS WITHIN A 12 MONTH PERIOD.
SO THIS WOULD DOUBLE THAT, UH, WITH HAVING TWO 60 DAY, UH, PERMITS WITHIN A 12 MONTH PERIOD GOING FROM TOTAL OF 60 DAYS TO 120.
UH, SO THAT'S DEFINITELY A BENEFIT FOR THE VENDOR AND THE PROPERTY OWNER.
UM, THE, UM, THERE IS A POTENTIAL CONSEQUENCE OF IMPACT TO THE CITY.
UM, IT'S POTENTIALLY, UH, WOULD POSSIBLY, UM, HAVE PARTICULAR TYPES OF, UM, FLEA MARKET TYPE VENDORS IF THEY QUALIFY AND MEET ALL THE REQUIREMENTS IN THE APPLICATION AND MEET ALL OF THAT.
UH, AND WE ISSUE A PERMIT TO 'EM, UM, THEY, IT BASICALLY WOULD HAVE A LOT LONGER TO SIT THERE.
UM, AND SO THAT'S, THAT'S KIND OF A, A NEGATIVE, POTENTIAL NEGATIVE IMPACT TO THE CITY WHERE IT'S A BENEFIT FOR THE VENDOR AND THE OPERATOR.
UM, THE OTHER CONSEQUENCE THAT IT'S STILL GONNA BE DIFFICULT TO ENFORCE IF WE GO WITH THAT VERSION OR NOT, UH, WHAT WE TYPICALLY SEE, AND I'M SURE A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE SEEN THIS, UH, PEOPLE ARE OUT AND ABOUT AND THEY SEE A VENDOR, UH, WHETHER IT'S A LEGAL VENDOR OR A PERMITTED VENDOR.
UH, A LOT OF PEOPLE JUST MAKE THE ASSUMPTION THAT IT'S OKAY TO SET UP AND SELL, WHICH IT'S NOT.
UM, IN, IN REALITY, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IS REALLY THE MOST EFFECTIVE DEPARTMENT TO ENFORCE NON PERMITTED VENDORS BECAUSE, UM, THEY CAN ISSUE A CITATION BECAUSE THEY CAN GET THE IDENTIFICATION, UH, FROM OUR SIDE.
IF THEY'RE A PERMITTED VENDOR, WE'LL HAVE THAT INFORMATION IN THE APPLICATION.
SO WE COULD TAKE ACTION FROM THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT STANDPOINT.
BUT AS FAR AS REGULATING ALL THE ILLEGAL VENDORS, UM, THAT WOULD, THAT, THAT FALLS TO THE CHIEF AND, UH, HIS, HIS GUYS OUT THERE.
SO, UM, THAT'S ALL REALLY I HAVE, I I'M MORE THAN HAPPY TO GO OVER THE, THE, THE DRAFT, THE SECOND DRAFT THAT YOU HAVE THAT EXPANDS IT.
IF YOU, IF YOU WOULD LIKE ME TO, OR, WELL, I JUST HAVE, I HAVE ONE QUICK QUESTION.
UH, SO LIKE, WHEN, WHEN THERE'S SPECIAL EVENTS LIKE 4TH OF JULY, YOU KNOW, THERE'S VENDORS THAT THEY GO AND THEY HAVE, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE SELLING STUFF FOR THE KIDS AND ALL THAT.
THAT'S NOT, THAT'S, I DON'T THINK THAT'S THE INTENTION, AT LEAST NOT MY INTENTION TO GO AND ELIMINATE THAT.
SO HOW, HOW IS THAT, HOW ARE THOSE TYPE OF, I GUESS YOU'D SAY VENDORS CAPTURED IN A SENSE, RIGHT.
SPECIFICALLY FOR THE 4TH OF JULY? UH, SO THE PARKS DEPARTMENT HAS, UH, SOME REQUIREMENTS TO SIGN UP AND, AND I GUESS RESERVE THEIR SPACE.
UH, TYPICALLY IN THE PAST WE HAVE NOT, UH, REGULATED NO, I'M TALKING ABOUT, I'M TALKING ABOUT LIKE CHRISTMAS PARADE.
THERE'S PEOPLE CHRISTMAS, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE SELLING LIGHTS AND, AND WHATEVER KIND OF STUFF.
ARE THERE, IS THERE GONNA BE AN EXCEPTION FOR AN EVENT? YEAH, I'M SAYING SO DOES THAT, IS THAT CAPTURED IN, OUT AS FAR AS THE, THE, UH, PEDAL OR PERMIT OR WHATEVER IT'S CONSIDERED RIGHT.
THE ITINERATE WOULD, IF A PARADE, SO THEY'RE JUST BASICALLY WALKING DOWN THE STREET.
TYPICALLY THEY DON'T SET UP AND SELL SOMEWHERE, RIGHT.
SO THAT, THAT WOULD BE A DIFFERENT SCENARIO.
YEAH, I DON'T HAVE AN ISSUE WITH THAT.
I'M SAYING THAT'S NOT WHAT I'M TRYING TO CAPTURE.
UM, SO I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE, AGAIN, AS YOU SAY, I DON'T WANT A, UH, UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCE.
I THINK CERTAINLY KIDS LOVE, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER BUBBLES AND STUFF THAT THEY, THAT THEY BUY.
AND SO I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT I WANNA BE CLEAR RIGHT NOW THAT THAT'S NOT WHAT THIS IS GOING TO DO.
I MEAN, I, I WILL GIVE YOU ALSO SOME INFORMATION FROM THE CITY.
UM, THERE'S AN AD HOC COMMITTEE THAT, UH, YOU MAY OR MAY NOT BE AWARE OF.
IT'S IN DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS, POLICE, FIRE, HEALTH PARKS, UH, LEGAL DEPARTMENT, LOOKING AT OTHER THIRD PARTY PERMITS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, THAT, THAT CURRENTLY DON'T FALL ANYWHERE.
AND SO WE'RE, WE WILL DEFINITELY TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION AND MAKE SURE WE DON'T HAVE A, A NEGATIVE CONSEQUENCE OF ELIMINATING ANY KIND OF, UM, VENDORS THAT ARE MOBILE, SO TO SPEAK, GOING IN A PARADE YEAH.
I, I GUESS I, I DON'T HAVE AN ISSUE WHEN THERE IS EVENTS AT BICENTENNIAL PARK OR TOWN SQUARE AND THERE'S PARADES, WHATEVER, AND THERE'S PEOPLE THAT ARE SELLING, UM, I DON'T KNOW, I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU CONSIDER THEM, BUT AMUSEMENT TRINKETS, I, I'M NOT SURE.
SO THAT'S, THAT I DON'T HAVE AN ISSUE WITH.
'CAUSE TYPICALLY FOR THE SPECIAL EVENTS THAT ARE ASSOCIATED THROUGH PARKS LIKE 4TH OF JULY, CHRISTMAS PARADE, CIN DE MAYO, ANY OF THOSE MAJOR EVENTS LIKE THAT, THOSE VENDORS ARE PERMITTED THROUGH THAT TYPICALLY HAVE BEEN PERMITTED THROUGH THAT EVENT PERMIT PROCESS.
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OKAY.OUTSIDE OF THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT'S PERMITTING PROCESS.
BECAUSE THEY ARE KIND OF A I SPECIAL EVENT.
I DON'T KNOW SPECIALTY, THAT'S WHY I ASKED.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY'RE YES, MA'AM.
YEAH, YOU CLARIFIED THAT BETTER.
UM, I KNOW THAT THIS CONVERSATION STEMMED FROM THE GENTLEMAN THAT WANTED TO WORK IN THE HEB PARKING LOT OR BE PERMITTED.
UM, WHAT IF WE HAD A BUSINESS OWNER THAT WANTED TO HAVE KIND OF THEIR OWN SATURDAY FLEA MARKET WHERE THEY HOSTED, UM, PEOPLE IN THEIR PARKING LOT? IS THIS, IF WE WENT FOR THE ALL OR NOTHING MOVE FOR THE PEDDLERS AND SOLICITORS, WOULD THIS PREVENT A BUSINESS OWNER FROM ALLOWING SEVERAL DIFFERENT BUSINESSES, UM, ALMOST LIKE THEIR OWN FARMER'S MARKET IN THEIR PARKING LOT, RIGHT? SO THAT CURRENTLY THAT OPEN AIR, UM, MAY BE PRETTY RESTRICTIVE ON A, ON A BUSINESS DOING THAT.
UM, DEPENDING ON HOW MANY VENDORS SET UP AND HOW OFTEN THEY DO IT, BECAUSE THAT'S, SO, UM, AND I DON'T MEAN TO CUT YOU OFF.
I'M, I'M ASKING THIS FOR A VERY SPECIFIC REASON BECAUSE WE DO HAVE SOMEONE IN MY DISTRICT THAT, UM, THEY, THEY OWN A STRUCTURE A BUSINESS.
UM, BUT I HAVE SEEN THEM ABOUT ONCE A QUARTER AND I, I DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR PERMIT AND HOW IT APPLIES, BUT I'VE SEEN THEM ONCE A, A QUARTER, THEY ADVERTISE, UM, UH, LIKE PEOPLE THAT MAKE WAXES, SOAPS, THINGS LIKE THIS VERY SIMILAR TO OUR FARMER'S MARKET AND THEY ALLOW 10 VENDORS IN THEIR PARKING LOT ON A SATURDAY.
AND SO, UM, I REALLY LIKE THE, THE WAY IT'S SO EASY TO ENFORCE IF WE DO THE, YOU KNOW, WE JUST DON'T ALLOW PEDDLERS AND SOLICITORS, BUT I AM CONCERNED ABOUT OUR BUSINESS OWNERS THAT WE DON'T HAVE VERY MANY, BUT DO HOST THESE LITTLE SMALL EVENTS ABOUT ONCE A QUARTER.
I, I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT PROBABLY WOULD BE BEST ADDRESSED THROUGH THE AD HOC COMMITTEE, UH, TO LOOK AT THAT BECAUSE IT, THAT REALLY DOESN'T FIT, UM, ANYWHERE GOOD RIGHT NOW.
THERE'S A LIVE OUTDOOR PERMIT THAT THERE'S A REQUIREMENT FOR THAT, BUT IT'S, IT'S GOT SOME RESTRICTIONS.
IT CAN ONLY BE UP TO 14 DAYS AND YOU KNOW, I BELIEVE YOU HAVE TO WAIT 30 DAYS IN BETWEEN THAT.
SO IT, IT'S, IT WOULDN'T REALLY PLUG INTO THAT.
BUT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THE AD HOC COMMITTEE, I, I FEEL LIKE WE COULD TAKE A LOOK AT THAT.
SO I'M GONNA BE MORE DIRECT IF WE VOTE TO, TO JUST SAY BAYTOWN DOES NOT ALLOW SOLICITORS AND PEDDLERS TODAY.
IF WE VOTE ON THAT, WOULD THIS HO WOULD THIS BUSINESS OWNER STILL BE ALLOWED ONCE A QUARTER TO HOST THAT TYPE OF EVENT ON A SATURDAY? IT'S, IT'S ALMOST GARAGE SALE.
WELL THAT'S, I'M NOT AWARE OF WHAT YOU'RE, THE VENDOR YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.
SO IT'S, UH, THIS, THIS PARTICULAR VER THING THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS THE OPEN AIR.
SO THEY SET UP UP TO 30 DAYS AND, UM, I THINK IT'S BEST FOR THE AD HOC COMMITTEE TO TAKE A LOOK AT THAT BECAUSE, UM, IT'S, IT'S GONNA BE VERY CHALLENGING TO PUT THEM INTO THE OPEN AIR AS WELL AS THE LIVE OUTDOOR, THE WAY THAT YOU JUST EXPLAINED IT.
UM, SO THAT'S, WELL, LET ME, LET ME JUST, YES, SIR.
MR. MAYOR AND TONY, I HATE TO PUT YOU ON THE SPOT, BUT, UM, JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE SAME THING.
I BELIEVE WE DO HAVE A FARMER'S MARKET PERMIT CURRENTLY UNDER CHAPTER 42.
WE, WE DO, IT'S VERY, IT'S VERY SPECIFIC ON WHAT, WHAT DETERMINES WHAT DEFINES A FARMER'S MARKET, WHICH MEANS 60% OR MORE OF THE VENDORS HAVE TO SELL THINGS THAT ARE GROWN PRODUCE ONLY.
AND SO IF THEY DON'T MEET THAT 60%, THEN IT'S TECHNICALLY NOT A FARMER'S MARKET.
I WAS USING THAT AS A COMPARISON.
UM, BUT I THINK, I THINK LET'S, I THINK WHAT WE NEED TO FOCUS ON IS REALLY IS TO PHILOSOPHICAL APPROACHES ON VENDOR OR NO VENDOR OR THE EXTENSION MM-HMM
I THINK WHAT YOU'RE CAPTURING OR WHAT YOU'RE MENTIONING COULD BE CAPTURED LATER.
I MEAN, THAT'S A ONE DAY THING, RIGHT? MM-HMM
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PEOPLE WHO OPERATE FOR 30 DAYS OR SO.
I THINK LET'S, LET'S, LET'S GET, LET'S STAY FOCUSED ON AT LEAST WHAT'S IN FRONT OF US.
AND WE HAVE TO DO SOME MORE CLEANUP LIKE WE DID JUST A WHILE AGO.
AND MAYOR, JUST A FINAL COMMENT.
UM, FROM MY SIDE, I, I THINK, UM, WE ALSO MAYBE THINK ABOUT THE, THE BURDEN.
I MEAN, DO I WANT POLICE TO ALWAYS BE OUT THERE CHECKING, UM, AND GIVING PERMITS AND WERE THERE BARE, YOU KNOW, THEY WOULD BE BETTER SUITED PUBLIC SAFETY.
AND NOT JUST THAT, I MEAN TRAFFIC ACCIDENTS AND ALL OF THAT.
AND SO, UM, I AM ALSO LOOKING AT THAT IN TERMS OF THEIR BANDWIDTH AND HAVING THE POLICE, THESE, I MEAN, I, I WOULD, MY, MY RESPONSE TO THAT, I'M, I'M ASSUMING IT ACTUALLY WOULD MAKE IT EASIER.
'CAUSE THEN IT'S EASY TO IDENTIFY THEY'RE NOT THERE MM-HMM
AND THEY'RE HAVING TO GO AND TRY TO SAY, WELL, ARE YOU A FARMER'S MARKET
RIGHT? AND SO IT ACTUALLY MAKES IT
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EASY FOR THEM.SO THE BURDEN MAY BE LESS IN A SENSE THEY HAVE SOMETHING TO ENFORCE.
WELL, IF WE DO ZERO AND IT'S CLEAR.
IF WE DO ZERO, I'M UNDERSTAND AS AN EXAMPLE.
AND THAT'S WHAT, I'M SORRY I DIDN'T DIFFERENTIATE.
SO WHEN THE, UM, GENTLEMAN CAME WITH THE WINDSHIELD REPAIR BUSINESS THAT REALLY KIND OF SPURRED THIS WHOLE CONVERSATION, I WAS REALLY HOPING WE COULD JUST FIND SOME WAY TO LIKE WORK THIS OUT.
AND THE REASON IS BECAUSE I MEAN, HE HAD GOTTEN PERMISSION FROM THE PROPERTY OWNER.
I THINK HE WAS EVEN LEASING SPACE FROM HEB, HE HAD PROOF THAT HE PAID SALES TAX.
HE CAME TO THE CITY TO APPLY FOR A PERMIT, AND THEN THAT'S WHEN HE RAN INTO ALL HIS PROBLEMS. AND SO I'M STARTING TO NOW LEAN TOWARDS JUST NO, UH, OPEN AIR PEDDLERS AND SOLICITORS, BECAUSE THE THING THAT'S BOTHERING ME THE MOST IS THE LACK OF CONSISTENCY AND FAIRNESS.
SO THE, THE ONE GUY WHO ACTUALLY WAS DOING A LEGITIMATE BUSINESS THE RIGHT WAY IS THE ONE THAT'S NOT ALLOWED.
AND ALL THOSE AD HOC OPEN AIR VENDORS ON THE MALL PROPERTY THAT HAVE NO PERMISSION SELLING LIVE ANIMALS, WHICH THEY'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO, AND ALL THIS OTHER STUFF, THERE'S NO ENFORCEMENT.
AND SO FOR ME, THE CONSISTENCY AND FAIRNESS IS WHAT I AM VALUING MORE.
AND SO I UNFORTUNATELY, I DON'T THINK WE'RE AT A PLACE WHERE I, I CAN SEE ALLOWING AN OPEN AIR VENDOR AND FORCING THE ONES THAT DON'T MEET IT.
SO I'M STARTING TO LEAN TOWARDS JUST NOBODY CAN DO IT.
BECAUSE THAT'S THE FAIREST AND MOST CONSISTENT WAY TO DO IT.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS? YEAH, I MEAN, I, I WOULD SAY, I MEAN, I WAS PRETTY VOCAL LAST MEETING WHEN WE, WHEN WE DISCUSSED THIS, I GET A LOT OF CALLS, OBVIOUSLY WHEN THERE'S PEOPLE WITH THE OLD MALL PROPERTY OR WHATEVER, LIKE, WHY IS THIS TAKING PLACE OR NOT A PERMIT WHEN I SAW SOMEBODY BASICALLY HAD A U-HAUL TRUCK AND THEIR WHOLE HOUSEHOLD THERE AND JUST TRYING TO SELL IT.
AND THAT'S WHERE WE KIND OF ARE, ARE GONNA HAVE TO, IN MY MIND, WE'LL DRAW A LINE OF SAND.
SO IS THERE ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS? I GUESS IF NOT, THEN LET'S, LET'S GO AND, AND, UH, WE HAVE TWO OPTIONS.
I GUESS ONE WOULD BE TO JUST NOT ALLOW IT.
THERE IS NO PERMIT PROCESS OR, OR ANOTHER OPTION WOULD BE TO GO AND ALLOW TWO 60 DAYS IF THAT'S WHERE WE'RE AT.
SO I GUESS I, FROM, FROM COUNSEL TO ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR EITHER ONE, I, I WANT A MOTION TO NOT ALLOW PEDDLERS AND SOLICITORS.
WE HAVE A MOTION TO SECOND ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? OKAY.
I WANT TO ASK FOR JUST A SHOW OF HANDS.
SO ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE, UH, BASICALLY, UH, PROHIBITION OF, OF, UM, OPEN AIR, ANY TYPE OF OPEN AIR VENDOR PERMITTING, UH, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND IN, IN FAVOR OF THAT TYPE OF ORDINANCE, OF THOSE POSTS.
SO, UM, IF YOU WANT TO, I KNOW YOU HAVE A DRAFT, YOU MAY, WE MAY HAVE TO APPROVE SOMETHING, SIR, IF YES SIR, IF THERE'S ANY CHANGES NEEDED.
[c. Consider an ordinance awarding a construction contract to MBN Enterprises, LLC for the Baytown Sidewalk Phase II Project.]
WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM FOUR CS.CONSIDER AN ORDINANCE, UH, AWARDING A CONSTRUCTION CONTRACT TO MBN ENTERPRISE'S, LLC FOR THE BAYTOWN SIDEWALK PHASE TWO PROJECT.
MR. MIA, YOU'D LIKE TO EXPLAIN A FEW FOR COUNSEL AT LEAST.
UH, WHAT IS PHASE TWO? GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNSEL.
UM, I FORCE THESE TO CONSIDER AWARDING THE CONTRACT, UH, FOR BAYTOWN SIDEWALK PHASE TWO TO MBN ENTERPRISES.
THE PROJECT CONSISTS OF APPROXIMATELY, UH, CONSTRUCTING APPROXIMATELY 20,600 LINEAR FEET OF FIVE FOOT SIDEWALK, ALONG WITH, UM, PLACING PEDESTRIAN RAMPS AND REPLACING ANY DRIVEWAYS SO THAT THEY MEET 80 A REQUIREMENTS.
UM, THE PROJECT WILL TAKE PLACE IN THREE DIFFERENT AREAS OF THE CITY.
UH, ONE OF 'EM IS GONNA BE ON WEST CITY BY LYNCHBURG, UH, FROM GUARD TO MAINE.
THE OTHER ONE'S ON LEE DRIVE FROM STELLA TO WEST MAIN.
UM, AND THEN CONTINUING ALONG THAT SECTION, IT'LL BE WEST MAIN FROM LEE TO ALMOND STREET.
UH, THE THIRD AREA IS GONNA BE DECA DRIVE FROM WEST BAKER TO LENBROOK.
AND THEN I WILL, UH, CONTINUE ON WEST BAKER FROM DECA TO COACHMAN.
UM, THIS, UH, PROJECT IS PART OF THE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT WITH HARRIS COUNTY TRANSIT AUTHORITY, WHERE 80% IS, UH, FEDERAL FUNDING WITH A 20% LOCAL MATCH.
UH, ADVERTISING FOR THE PROJECT COMMENCE ON, UH, DECEMBER 13TH, 2022.
UH, EIGHT BIDS WERE RECEIVED ON JANUARY 23RD, 2023.
UM, THE LOWEST BIDDER WITHDREW THEIR BID, UM, BUT FROM THE POOL, UH, WE HAD EIGHT APPLICANTS, SO WE, OR EIGHT BIDS.
THE NEXT LOWEST ONE, UH, THAT REMAINED FROM THE BIDDER WAS, UH, MBN ENTERPRISES AT $1,588,840.
UM, AND STAFF, UH, RECOMMENDS, UH, THAT MBN
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BE AWARDED THE CONTRACT.AND IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'M READY.
UH, IF YOU HAVE ITEM FOUR C, I WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION OF, OF THIS, UH, CONTRACT MOVE TO APPROVE ITEM FOUR C, SECOND MOTION A SECOND.
ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS FOR STAFF? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF FOUR C AS PRESENTED, PLEASE SAY AYE.
WE CONTINUE TO ADD SIDEWALKS, PRETTY MUCH RETROFIT OUR CITY AND CERTAINLY WE LIKE IT WHEN THERE'S A 80 20 MATCH WITH HARRIS COUNTY.
UH, CERTAINLY IT'S TO GET PEOPLE FROM, FROM WHEREVER THEY MAY BE RESIDING TO, UH, THE BUS STOPS FOR HARRIS COUNTY TRANSIT.
SO WE DO, WE CERTAINLY THINK OUR RELATIONSHIP WITH HARRIS COUNTY TRANSIT.
[a. Consider a resolution determining that a drainage easement containing approximately 0.0162 acres of land and a temporary construction easement containing approximately 0.1007 acres of land, identified as Parcel 39, is needed to be acquired from TW Baytown Real Estate, LLC, for the construction, operation, and maintenance of a drainage facility as part of the Garth Road Widening Project for the City of Baytown, Texas, and authorizing the institution of eminent domain proceedings.]
NEXT ITEM FIVE A.THIS ONE WILL BE HANDLED A LITTLE DIFFERENTLY.
UM, THIS WILL BE A ROLL CALL VOTE.
UM, THIS IS TO CONSIDER RESOLUTION DETERMINING THAT A DRAINAGE EASEMENT CONTAINING APPROXIMATELY 0.0162 ACRES OF LAND AND A TEMPORARY CONSTRUCTION EASEMENT CONTAINING APPROXIMATELY POINT, EXCUSE ME, 0.1007 ACRES OF LAND IDENTIFIED AS PARCEL 39 IS, IS NEEDED TO BE ACQUIRED FROM TW BAYTOWN REAL ESTATE LLC FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OPERATION AND MAIN MAINTENANCE OF A DRAINAGE FACILITY AS PART OF THE GARTH ROAD WINDING PROJECT FOR THE CITY OF BAYTOWN, TEXAS, AND AUTHORIZING THE INSTITUTION OF IMMINENT DOMAIN PROCEEDINGS.
SO I DO HAVE, UM, OUR CITY ATTORNEY, UNLESS THERE'S ANYONE ELSE THAT NEEDS TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.
UH, WE ARE ASKING THAT YOU GRANT US THE PERMISSION TO INSTITUTE IMMINENT DOMAIN PROCEEDINGS IN ORDER TO CONTINUE WITH THE GRANT ROAD WIDENING PROJECT.
UH, IN THIS PARTICULAR INSTANCE, THE LANDOWNER HAS REFUSED THE CITY'S OFFER TO ACQUIRE THE DRAINAGE EASEMENT, AND THEREFORE THE ONLY WAY THAT WE CAN OBTAIN AN INTEREST IN THIS PROCESS, UH, IN THIS PROPERTY, WOULD BE TO GO THROUGH THE IMMINENT DOMAIN PROCESS.
AND WE REQUEST THAT COUNSEL GRANT US THAT AUTHORITY.
I'M TRYING TO LOOK, IF THERE'S A MAP, IS THERE A MAP FOR US AT LEAST? I MEAN, I KNOW IT'S SMALL, IT'S HARD TO TELL THE PROPERTY.
CAN YOU, CAN YOU TELL US WHICH PROPERTY THIS IS? I MEAN, WHO IS TW BAYTOWN REAL ESTATE? I BELIEVE THIS IS, UH, TITLE CAR WASH.
I THINK MR. LEACH CAN, UH, BETTER DESCRIBE THE PROPERTY AND WHERE IT'S AT IN RELATION TO THE PROJECT.
UH, GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNSEL.
UM, THIS IS THE TIDAL WAVE CAR WASH, UH, AUTO SPA.
IT'S LOCATED AT THE 6,100 BLOCK OF GARTH ROAD ON THE NORTH SIDE.
UH, IN THE EXHIBIT WE HAVE UP THERE ON THE SCREEN, IT'S THE PROPERTY HIGHLIGHTED WITH THE RED BOX.
UM, THIS IS LOCATED BETWEEN, UH, TAVI AND ARCHER ON THE NORTHBOUND SIDE OF GARTH ROAD.
WHAT I'M, I'M INTERESTED IN IS THE 0.0.
SO WHAT EXACTLY ARE WE TALKING? SO, UM, YOU, IF YOU CAN SEE THE CURSOR THERE, UH, THE POINT, UH, ONE ZERO ACRES, UH, REPRESENTS ABOUT 700 SQUARE FEET.
AND IT IS THIS LOCATION, UH, THAT THE CURSOR IS GOING OVER HERE.
AND, AND, UH, THE LONGER BOX IS THE TEMPORARY CONSTRUCTION EASEMENT.
AND OF COURSE, UH, TEMPORARY CONSTRUCTION EASEMENTS ARE JUST THAT.
THEY'RE, THEY'RE TEMPORARY AND, UH, THEY'RE USED FOR THE DURATION OF CONSTRUCTION.
SO, UM, THIS IS THE ONLY PARCEL THAT WOULD, OR PORTION THAT WOULD REMAIN, UH, IN FULL EFFECT.
SO A COUPLE, COUPLE OF COMMENTS HERE.
SO WHAT, AT LEAST AS FAR AS A BUSINESS OWNER, WHICH I WILL TELL YOU, I WATCH MY TRUCK LIKE EVERY TWO, THREE DAYS THERE, SO MM-HMM
I REALLY LIKE THE BUSINESS, BUT, UM, WHAT IS THE RESERVATION ON THIS? UH, I MEAN, IS THERE, DO WE KNOW WHY AND, AND I DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER AND I'M GONNA ADVISE COUNSEL ON THIS WOULD BE, WE'RE GONNA HAVE THIS TYPE OF SITUATION REPLICATED MANY TIMES, AND THIS IS, THIS IS SOMETIMES THIS IS THE ACTION THAT WE HAVE TO TAKE MM-HMM
AND SO, UM, JUST BE MINDFUL OF THAT.
I, I'M, I'M GOING TO SECOND HIS COMMENT.
I NEED TO KNOW WHAT CONVERSATION BEEN HAD, HOW MANY, WHAT THEIR RESERVATIONS ARE, WHY THEY DON'T WANNA DO IT, WHAT'S A BONAFIDE OFFER? DID THEY COUNTER OFFER, LIKE, I NEED A LOT MORE INFORMATION BEFORE I EVEN CONSIDER SOMETHING LIKE IMMINENT DOMAIN.
I MEAN, WE HAVE TO EXERCISE IT, I GET IT, BUT I DON'T UNDERSTAND THE RESERVATION.
'CAUSE THERE'S, IT'S AN OPEN DITCH, UH, A LOT OF IT.
UM, I DUNNO IF LIKE, IF IT, YOU KNOW, IF IT PREVENTED ACCESS AND EGRESS, I GET THAT, BUT RIGHT.
I DON'T THINK THAT'S THE CASE.
SO MAYOR COUNSEL, I, UM, A LOT MORE INFORMATION, UH, THE, THE TERM, A LOT MORE INFORMATION FOR ME WOULD PROBABLY NEED TO BE DEFINED ON WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR.
JUST BECAUSE THE, THE PROCESSES FOR US TO GO APPRAISE THE LAND, WE AREN'T GONNA PAY MORE THAN WHAT THE APPRAISAL VALUE IS.
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SO ONCE WE GET THE APPRAISAL BACK, WE'RE GONNA MAKE AN OFFER ON WHAT THAT APPRAISAL IS.AND MR. LEACH PLEASE STAND, UH, CORRECT ME IF I'M STATING ANYTHING WRONG.
PLEASE, UH, WE'RE GONNA MAKE AN OFFER ON WHAT THAT APPRAISAL VALUE IS.
IF THEY CHOOSE NOT TO ACCEPT IT, THIS IS THE NEXT STEP THAT WE HAVE TO TAKE.
I MEAN, IT'S AS SIMPLE AS THOSE THREE STEPS AND THEN THIS IS THE NEXT STEP.
AND, AND I WE'LL SUPPORT THAT.
BUT BEFORE WE GET TO THAT POINT, I NEED TO KNOW EVERYTHING THAT'S ALREADY TRANSPIRED IN THE, IN THE WHY NOT.
AND, AND SO, YOU KNOW, I, I WILL EXERCISE EMINENT DOMAIN WHEN IT IS IN THE BEST INTEREST.
OBVIOUSLY THE WHITENING ROCK ROAD IS YES, SIR.
BUT I NEED TO, I NEED TO HAVE ALL MY FACTS TOGETHER ON WHY NOT FIRST.
AND, AND IF, AS MS. PEN COURT MENTIONED, IF A FAIR OFFER WAS, WAS OFFERED AND SO ON, THEN AT THAT POINT IT JUST BECOMES UNREASONABLE AND UNCOOPERATIVE AND THAT THAT MAY BE THE CASE.
AND IF THE ANSWER WHY NOT IS JUST THAT THEY SIMPLY SAID NO, THAT'S THE WHY NOT.
AND I DON'T, I GUESS I WOULDN'T HAVE ANY MORE TO OFFER AT THIS POINT.
AND THAT'S WHERE I'M A LITTLE TRIPPED UP MAYOR.
IF THE ANSWER IS JUST NO, THEN THAT'S THE ANSWER.
BUT IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? THAT WAS THEIR ANSWER WAS SIMPLY NO.
AND THEY PROVIDED NO OTHER CONTEXT.
I'LL TURN IT OVER TO THE ATTORNEY FOR THAT.
THAT'S, THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING.
I DIDN'T HAVE, UM, A ONE-ON-ONE CONVERSATION WITH THIS PARTICULAR LANDOWNER THAT WAS HAD HANDLED BY, UH, OUR PWE STAFF.
UM, BUT UH, IF WHAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR ARE THE APPRAISALS AND, UH, THE ACTUAL VALUE OF THE LAND, WE CAN COME BACK TO YOU WITH THAT INFORMATION AND DISCUSS IT IN, IN EXECUTIVE SESSION.
UH, SO THAT WE ARE NOT, UH, ALLOWING THE PUBLIC GENERAL KNOWLEDGE OF WHAT THE LAND VALUES ARE.
AND THAT'S WHY I WANTED TO, TO SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO BE MINDFUL BECAUSE WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO REPLICATE THIS ACTION MORE THAN LIKELY.
AND SO WE WANNA MAKE SURE WE GET IT RIGHT.
SO KIND OF AS MENTIONED, SO BEFORE THIS COUNCIL AND MYSELF IS GONNA EXERCISE IMMINENT DOMAIN, WHICH IS A VERY SERIOUS ACTION BY GOVERNMENT.
I HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT ALL OUR DUE DILIGENCE AS ELECTED OFFICIALS HAVE, HAS, HAS BEEN, BEEN COMPLETED.
IF IT'S AN UN, IF IT'S A FAIR OFFER, IF, IF, IF WE WENT AND, AND AND CAN SHOW THAT, THAT, UM, THE MARKET VALUE IS FAIR AND REASONABLE AND THEY CHOOSE NOT TO ACCEPT, THEN THIS COUNCIL CAN TAKE WHATEVER ACTION IS NEEDED AT THAT POINT.
BUT RIGHT NOW WE DON'T HAVE THAT INFORMATION.
SO I CAN'T COMFORTABLY MAKE A DECISION FOR OR AGAINST, OKAY.
SORRY, WAS ON, BUT MY, MY COMMENT IS NAME IS THE MAYOR AND MY COLLEAGUE IS, IS YOU, YOU SAY THIS IS LIKE STEP THREE, RIGHT? I NEED TO REALLY SEE STEP ONE AND TWO JUST FOR MY OWN BENEFIT.
'CAUSE AS A BODY OF THIS COUNCIL, THE IMMINENT DOMAIN IS A SERIOUS ISSUE FOR US, UH, ANY POLITICAL GROUP.
SO I NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT STEP ONE AND STEP TWO WE'RE DONE.
AND IF THIS IS STEP THREE, THAT THEN WE'LL HAVE THAT DISCUSSION.
I'D ALSO LIKE TO SEE, I, I SEE ON THE, THE SURVEY, THE, THE 700 SQUARE FOOT AREA, I'D LIKE TO SEE THAT 700 SQUARE FOOT AREA CALLED OUT ON THE OVER FLYOVER TO SEE WHAT IT IMPACTS ON THEIR PROPERTY.
I MEAN, LIKE, I'M, MY UNDERSTANDING LIKE THIS, IT'S AN OPEN, IT'S AN OPEN DITCH.
SO I NEED TO SEE HOW THAT'S OVERLAID.
TIVE DOMAIN IS ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT'S, IT'S, THAT'S, NO, I'M JUST SAYING, YOU KNOW, WE, WE CAN PULL THE TRIGGER, BUT I DON'T THINK WE'RE THERE YET.
SO I THINK ONE OF THE MORE DIRECT QUESTIONS I WOULD LIKE Y'ALL TO ASK, UM, IS WE ALSO USE TITLE CAR WASH ALL THE TIME.
I'M WONDERING IF, NUMBER ONE, ARE THEY JUST PLAYING HARDBALL? 'CAUSE THEY WANT MORE MONEY? OKAY.
BUT THE OTHER THING IS, I'M WANTING TO KNOW, IS THERE SOME KIND OF REQUIREMENT BECAUSE THAT'S TIED INTO THEIR RETENTION POND, WHICH HAS TO DO WITH ORDINANCES AND THINGS OF THAT LIKE THAT IF THIS SOMEHOW HINDERS A GROWTH AREA THAT THEY HAVE ON THE EAST SIDE OF THEIR PROPERTY, WHERE THEY MIGHT HAVE TO, IF WE, UM, TAKE OVER WITH IMMINENT DOMAIN, THAT LITTLE 700 SQUARE FOOT, DO THEY, DOES THAT THEN FORCE THEM TO USE ANOTHER PIECE OF THEIR PROPERTY TO MEET THE NEEDS OF A RETENTION POND OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT? SO WHEN, WHEN WE'RE SAYING WE WANT MORE CONVERSATION, I'M JUST WANTING TO KNOW MAYBE THEM AS, AS LANDOWNERS, THEY KNOW THAT THIS IS GOING TO, UM, HINDER SOME KIND OF GROWTH FOR THEM AS A BUSINESS.
MAYOR, COUNSEL, WE'VE HEARD YOU ALL, WE WILL GET ALL THE INFORMATION AND COME BACK AT THE, AT THE NEXT MEETING.
BECAUSE IT'S REALLY, IT'S, IF, IF YOU'RE NOT REALLY FAMILIAR WITH THAT PROPERTY, THAT'S AN WHEN YOU'RE GOING THROUGH THE CAR WASH, THAT LITTLE 700 SQUARE FEET, THAT'S A REALLY AWKWARD THING.
FOR THEM TO BE SO HESITANT TO GET RID OF.
I MEAN, IT, IT, IT'S VERY SMALL AND NARROW, SO, YEAH.
NO, I, AND SO ANYWAY, IT'S JUST, I THINK LET'S, LET'S GET IT RIGHT AND LET'S GET THE RIGHT INFORMATION.
UM, I THINK YOU, YOU CERTAINLY HAVE HEARD COUNSEL AND THE, THE DATA POINTS AND INFORMATION THAT'S NEEDED.
SO, SO WITH THAT, I GUESS WE DO NEED TO AT LEAST TABLE THIS ITEM OR SUSPEND THIS ITEM.
SO I MAKE A RESOLUTION TO, UH, OR EXCUSE ME, MAKE A MOTION TO TABLE THIS ITEM.
UM, SO SUSPENDED THE NEXT MEETING, WHICH IS, YEAH, I'D GIVE IT 30 DAYS, 27TH.
JUST GIVE 'EM 30 DAYS TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY HAVE
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ENOUGH TIME TO TALK TO THE PROPERTY OWNER AND, AND GET ALL OF THAT.SO I WOULD SUPPORT 30 DAYS AND I THINK MAYBE NEXT MEETING IS A LITTLE TOO SOON.
SO I DON'T WANT TO PRESSURE THEM.
SO I, I'LL LET'S DO 60 DAYS JUST TO BE ON THE SAFE SIDE.
DOESN'T MEAN WE CAN'T PULL IT BACK IN.
COUNSEL, IS THAT UP TO 60 DAYS OR UP TO 60 DAYS? UP TO 60? MM-HMM
SO ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF SUSPENSION, UH, PLEASE SAY AYE A AYE.
ALRIGHT, SO I DON'T HAVE TO DO THIS OTHER STUFF.
[b. Consider a resolution authorizing an amendment to the Baytown City Council Rules of Procedure regarding citizen addresses and communications.]
NEXT WE HAVE ITEM, UH, FIVE B, CONSIDER RESOLUTION AUTHORIZED AND AMENDMENT TO THE BAYTOWN CITY COUNCIL RULES OF PROCEDURES REGARDING CITIZEN, CITIZEN ADDRESSES AND COMMUNICATIONS.MR. LEMON COUNSEL, THIS IS, UH, CONTINUATION OF THE DISCUSSIONS WE'VE HAD ABOUT, UH, AMENDING THE RULES OF PROCEDURE, SPECIFICALLY WITH REGARD TO, UH, INTERACTIONS WITH MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC AND IN THIS CASE.
UM, AS WE'VE DISCUSSED, UH, A COUPLE WEEKS AGO, WE HAVE PROPOSED, UH, THREE CHANGES TO THE RULES, UH, NOT INCLUDING SOME TYPOGRAPHICAL ERRORS THAT WE'RE ALSO UH, ADDRESSING.
UH, THE FIRST WOULD BE, UH, TO CLARIFY THAT CITIZENS DO HAVE THE RIGHT TO SPEAK ON ANY TOPIC THAT IS ON THE AGENDA.
THAT WOULD BE IN PROPOSED RULE 6.2, WHICH WE ARE CALLING CITIZEN ADDRESSES.
WE ARE ALSO, UH, CONTINUING WITH THE, UM, UH, DESIRE EXPRESSED BY COUNSEL IN THE PAST THAT WE ALLOW A PROCESS BY WHICH WE ENCOURAGE CITIZENS TO BRING GRIEVANCES TO THE DEPARTMENTS, BUT WHEN THOSE GRIEVANCES ARE FELT NOT TO BE APPROPRIATELY ADDRESSED BY THE CITIZENS, THAT THEY ARE ALLOWED TO COME BACK HERE TO COUNSEL AND ASK THAT THOSE ITEMS BE PLACED ON THE AGENDA.
AND FINALLY, WE HAVE CLARIFIED THAT THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR CITIZENS TO SPEAK ON ANY TOPIC, EVEN IF IT'S NOT ON THE AGENDA.
UH, FOR OUR FIRST TWO CATEGORIES FOR, UH, CITIZEN ADDRESSES AND WHAT WE'RE CALLING CITIZEN COMMUNICATIONS, UH, THOSE SPEAKERS WOULD HAVE THREE MINUTES.
UH, THERE WOULD ALSO BE AN OPPORTUNITY IF THERE ARE MULTIPLE SPEAKERS ON THAT TOPIC, TO PASS TIME UP TO A TOTAL OF NINE MINUTES FOR ONE SPEAKER.
WITH REGARD TO NON-AG AGENDA TOPICS, WE ARE PROPOSING THAT THOSE CITIZENS WHO WANT TO SPEAK ON SOMETHING THAT IS NOT ON A POSTED AGENDA HAVE UP TO A MINUTE TO SPEAK.
AND IF THERE ARE MULTIPLE PEOPLE WHO WANT TO SPEAK ON THE SAME NON-AG AGENDA TOPIC, THAT THEY ARE ALSO ALLOWED TO PASS TIME FOR A TOTAL UP TO THREE MINUTES.
WITH REGARD TO SPEAKERS WHO ARE SPEAKING ON AN ITEM THAT IS NOT ON A POSTED AGENDA PER THE ATTORNEY GENERAL'S GUIDANCE, UH, COUNSEL WOULD NOT BE AFFORDED THE OPPORTUNITY TO DELIBERATE ON THOSE ITEMS OR TO ENGAGE WITH THOSE CITIZENS.
HOWEVER, YOU DO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY IF YOU THINK IT IS IMPORTANT ENOUGH TO POST THOSE ITEMS ON A SUBSEQUENT AGENDA OR TO DIRECT STAFF TO ENGAGE WITH THOSE, UH, PERSONS AFTER THE MEETING, OR TO TELL THOSE PERSONS THAT, UH, A PARTICULAR STAFF MEMBER WOULD BE ABLE TO HANDLE THEIR COMPLAINTS.
A COMMENT, UM, SO I, I DO LIKE THE CHANGES, BUT I, I THINK THAT A MINUTE IS A LITTLE TOO RESTRICTIVE.
I MEAN, HERE WE'RE OPENING UP THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE PEOPLE COME AND SPEAK.
UM, SOME OF THEM MAY HAVE NEVER COME TO COUNCIL AND IT MAY TAKE THEM THAT FIRST MINUTE TO, YOU KNOW, GET WHATEVER IT IS THAT THEY NEED OUT.
UM, AND SO I WOULD LIKE TO PROPOSE TO, UM, BUMP THEM UP TO THREE MINUTES AS WE DO ANY AGENDA ITEMS. SO, SO LEMME ASK YOU THIS.
THE ONLY PROBLEM I HAVE, THE ONLY PROBLEM I HAVE WITH THAT COUNCILWOMAN WOULD BE, NOT THAT IT WOULD HAPPEN, BUT YOU CAN HAVE A HUNDRED PEOPLE SIGN UP TO TALK ABOUT WHATEVER THEY WANT ON A NON POSTIT AGENDA ITEM AND THEY HAVE THREE MINUTES.
WOULD, WOULD THE CITIZEN ADDRESS LIMITATION OF NINE MINUTES TOTAL APPLY TO THAT NEW WITH RESPECT TO COUNCIL MEMBER ALVARADO'S, UH, REQUEST? IT CERTAINLY CAN.
THEN I CAN DO THE NINE, BUT YEAH.
IS IS THE, MAY I ASK ME? YES, I'M SORRY.
IS THE ATTACHMENT ON THE AGENDA,
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UH, DOES IT INCLUDE THIS NEW SECTION THAT YOU'RE PROPOSING? WHAT NUMBER IS IT? I CAN'T FIND IT.YES, WE ARE SPECIFICALLY TALKING ABOUT 6.2.
A, A 1, 2, 3, UH, FOLLOWING THAT AND 6.3 K ON FIVE BACK MAYOR.
ON THE NON-AG AGENDA ITEMS, I JUST HAVE SOME REAL ISSUES WITH THAT.
'CAUSE WHAT WE'RE, WE WOULD BE ENCOURAGING SOMEBODY TO COME AND TALK TO US ABOUT SOMETHING THAT'S NOT ON THE AGENDA.
AND AT THE END OF IT, THEN WE'RE GONNA DIRECT STAFF TO GET WITH THEM TO DISCUSS IT WITH THEM AND TO POSSIBLY BRING IT BACK TO US ON AN AGENDA, WHICH IS WHAT WE DO TO BEGIN WITH.
SO WHY WOULDN'T WE JUST STICK WITH THE PROCESS THAT IF, IF A CITIZEN, I AGREE THAT IF A CITIZEN HAS, IS NOT GETTING THE RESULTS THAT THEY WANT THROUGH A DEPARTMENT OR NOT GETTING THE ANSWERS THEY FEEL THEY SHOULD BE, THAT THAT SHOULD BE INITIALLY RESOLVED THROUGH STAFF.
IF IT'S NOT, AND, AND THERE'S ALWAYS TWO SIDES TO THE STORY, BUT IF THE CITIZEN FEELS THEY'RE JUST NOT GETTING THE RESPONSE THEY WANT, THEN THEY SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO POST IT ON THE AGENDA AND THEY GET THEIR TIME IN FRONT OF US TO ME TO ADD IN.
SOMEBODY JUST WANTS TO COME IN AND SIGN UP AND SPEAK AND THEN WE'RE GONNA SEND 'EM RIGHT BACK TO THE BEGINNING OF THE PROCESS.
WE'RE NOT GAINING ANYTHING HERE.
WE'RE NOT TRYING TO PROHIBIT ANYBODY FROM SPEAKING, BUT WE'RE GONNA SEND 'EM RIGHT BACK TO STAFF TO BEGIN WITH.
'CAUSE WE CAN'T, WHAT WAS EXPLAINED CAN'T ENGAGE, WE CAN'T ENGAGE IT ANYWAYS.
SO THE ONLY THING IT COULD BE IS THAT YOU WOULD DIRECT STAFF TO REVIEW, GET WITH THEM AND GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS.
SO WE, WE HAVEN'T GAINED ANYTHING OTHER THAN, I MEAN, POTENTIALLY ADDING, LIKE YOU SAID, WHAT IF THERE'S 10 OR 15 OF 'EM SHOW UP AND THEY ALL WANT THEIR NINE MINUTES AND, AND NOW WE'RE IN HERE FOR ANOTHER HOUR AND A HALF.
UM, I AGREE WITH A LOT WITH WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
I, I WOULD THINK, I DON'T SEE A COUNCIL MEMBER HERE AT LEAST, OR EVEN IN THE PAST, WHERE IF ONE OF THEIR CITIZENS, YOU KNOW, HAS WENT THROUGH STAFF AND SO ON, WANTS TO COME AND ADDRESS FULL COUNSEL.
AND SAY, HEY, WHATEVER MY SEWER, WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE, UM, THEN THEY CONTACT THEIR COUNCIL MEMBER AND THE COUNCIL MEMBER COULD ASK THE CITY MANAGER TO PLACE IT OR THE CITY ATTORNEY, CITY ATTORNEY, THE CITY ATTORNEY TO GO AND PLACE IT ON, ON AN AGENDA.
SORRY MAYOR, I WAS LETTING, I WAS SAYING THAT CITY ATTORNEY HAS SOMETHING TO ADD BEFORE WE START GOING TOO FAR DOWN.
UH, BUT YEAH, A COUNCIL MEMBER WOULD ASK THE CITY MANAGER TO PLACE IT ON AN AGENDA, WHICH I THINK MOST COUNCIL MEMBERS WOULD DO THAT.
SO COUNCIL, WITH REGARD TO NON-AG AGENDA SPEAKERS, THE REASON WE ARE PROPOSING A RULE IS BECAUSE THE ATTORNEY GENERAL HAS TOLD US IN NO UNCERTAIN TERMS THAT EVEN IF AN ITEM IS NOT ON YOUR AGENDA, YOU MUST ALLOW, UH, THE CITIZEN TO SPEAK.
AND WHAT WE HAD PROPOSED WAS BECAUSE WE ARE CONCERNED ABOUT A HUNDRED PEOPLE COMING TO IT.
IT HAPPENS ALL THE TIME AT THE COUNTY LEVEL FIRST.
NO, I'VE SEEN IT, I'VE SEEN IT HAC AND UH, AND SO WHAT WE THOUGHT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE IS TO ALLOW THOSE SPEAKERS TO COME IN KNOWING THAT THEY HAVE THE RIGHT TO DO SO, BUT TO LIMIT THE AMOUNT OF TIME THAT THEY CAN TALK ABOUT THEIR GRIEVANCE, WHATEVER IT IS.
AND THEN IF APPROPRIATE, UH, FOR YOU TO, UH, LET THEM, AS THE ATTORNEY GENERAL SAID, YOU CAN, TO LET THEM KNOW THAT THEY CAN APPROACH WHATEVER STAFF MEMBER, UH, IS AVAILABLE TO HELP THEIR COMPLAINT.
SO YES, MA'AM, ANSWER YOUR QUESTION.
ALTHOUGH I DO APPRECIATE, UM, ALVARADO'S CONCERN WAS ALLOWING PEOPLE TO SPEAK MORE DUE TO SOME THINGS THAT I HAVE SEEN MYSELF, UM, WHERE MEETINGS IN OTHER GOVERNMENTAL BODIES INSIDE BAYTOWN, SUCH AS THE SCHOOL BOARD, I DEFINITELY WOULD BE MORE SUPPORTIVE OF ONLY ONE MINUTE WHEN IT'S A NON AGENDA ITEM.
ONLY BECAUSE WE HAVE SEEN MEETINGS GO ON FOR SEVEN HOURS INTO THE NIGHT.
UM, AND, UM, I REALLY LIKE THE IDEA OF ALLOWING CITIZENS TO COME IN AND SPEAK ON, UM, TOPICS THAT AREN'T ON THE AGENDA.
BECAUSE SOMETIMES SOMETHING HAPPENS THAT DAY AND THEY REALLY JUST WANT TO COME INTO AN OPEN MEETING, HAVE IT BE, HAVE WHATEVER THEY NEED TO SAY OFF THEIR CHEST.
I'M ASSUMING THAT THEY WOULDN'T ALLOW TO DO ANY KIND OF ATTACKING, UM, VERBALLY MM-HMM
CURSING, WE WOULD BE ABLE TO STOP ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
AS, AS WE TALK, YOU KNOW, OKAY.
I'M GETTING MY WIFE TO COME SIGN UP SO SHE CAN TELL Y'ALL HOW GREAT I AM.
THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, UH, YES.
I'M, I'M ALSO, YOU, YOU WON'T NEED A WHOLE MINUTE, BUT OKAY.
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SHE, SHE WON'T NEED TO HOLD MINUTE.BUT NO, I THINK THAT'S, I THINK THAT'S FAIR.
I THINK THAT ALLOWS A PATHWAY THAT, AS YOU SAID, THAT THAT DOES SATISFY THE ATTORNEY GENERAL'S GUIDANCE.
UM, AGAIN, UH, AND, AND AS MS. GRAHAM MENTIONED, UM, YOU KNOW, THERE IS A, THERE IS A DECORUM FOR, FOR THAT SPEAKER AND YOU KNOW, IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE, THERE'S NOT QUESTIONS FOR COUNSEL.
AND SO I THINK WE, WE WANNA PROVIDE THAT, THOSE, I GUESS YOU SAY THOSE RULES OF ENGAGEMENT TO EACH OF THOSE SPEAKERS.
UH, MY ONLY COMMENT, I AGREE WITH THE, THE SHORTER TIME JUST TO LIMIT THE POTENTIAL FOR, UM, YOU KNOW, TO, TO, FOR THAT TO DRAG ON RIGHT AT THE END OF THE MEETING.
UH, BUT LOOKING AT THE REST OF THE, THE DOCUMENT HERE, EVERYWHERE ELSE, WE HAVE A TIME LIMIT IT ALL.
IT SAYS THREE MINUTES, NINE MINUTES, BUT EVERY ONE OF 'EM SAYS UNLESS THE TIME IS EXTENDED BY MAJORITY VOTE OF THE COUNCIL MM-HMM
SO COULD WE ADD THAT TO THE ONE MINUTE TIME AS WELL? YES, CERTAINLY WE COULD DO THAT.
SO IT GIVES US THE OPTION TO, TO ADD A LITTLE TIME IF, IF WE THINK THEY'RE, WE, THERE'S REASON, BRING SOME VALID POINTS TO US.
SO MAYOR WOULD, UM, THEY ALSO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO, UM, ATTACH ADDITIONAL MINUTES.
SO IF SOMEONE WANTS TO GIVE THEIR TIME UP TO THAT INDIVIDUAL, I UP TO TO THREE.
SO I FULLY SUPPORT THE ADDITION OF THE NON-AG AGENDA ITEM, UH, THE DIFFERENT ELECTED BODIES THAT I HAVE TO WORK WITH.
UM, BAYTOWN ISS THE ONLY ONE THAT I'VE EVER SEEN THAT DID NOT HAVE THAT OPTION FOR CITIZENS.
UM, SO I'M HAPPY TO SEE THAT ADDED.
UM, I AM CURIOUS, SO LOOKING UNDER SECTION E, IT SAYS A FORM MUST BE SUBMITTED NO LATER THAN 5:00 PM ON THE DAY PRIOR TO THE DATE OF THE MEETING.
IS THAT INCLUSIVE OF THE NON-AGENT AGENDA ITEM AS WELL? OR CAN THEY JUST LIKE SHOW UP BEFORE THE MEETING AND JUST SAY, HEY, I'M GONNA SPEAK DURING CITIZEN COMMUNICATION? NO, THIS IS SPECIFIC TO THE CITIZEN COMMUNICATION, UH, PORTION OF A MEETING.
SO IF, UH, SOMEONE WANTED TO JUST SHOW UP AND HADN'T FILLED OUT THAT FORM WITHIN THE TIMEFRAME, THEY WOULD BE, AND, AND I WILL SAY, UM, AND MS. MARTINEZ CAN SPEAK TO THIS, BUT THE CLERK'S OFFICE HAS, UH, TOLD THE STAFF THAT THEY WOULD CONTINUE TO TRY TO ADDRESS ANY COMPLAINTS ADMINISTRATIVELY, EVEN IF IT WAS SOMETHING THAT HAPPENED ON THE DAY, UH, OF A COUNCIL MEETING.
SO THAT PROCESS WOULD STILL BE FOLLOWED, BUT IF SOMEONE DIDN'T FILL OUT THE FORMS TODAY BEFORE THE MEETING, THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO SPEAK ON A NON-AG AGENDA ITEM.
THAT, THAT'S WHAT'S IMPORTANT TO ME BECAUSE AS MUCH AS I APPRECIATE THIS PROCESS OF TRYING TO WORK IT OUT WITH CITIZENS, YOU KNOW, BEFORE THEY GET HERE AND ALL THAT, I MEAN, THERE IS SOMETHING TO BE SAID THAT, TO HAVE FOR PEOPLE TO HAVE THE ABILITY TO JUST COME UP HERE AND WE JUST SHUT UP FOR A SECOND.
AND STOP TRYING TO EDUCATE THEM OR CORRECT THEM OR DELIBERATE WITH THEM AND JUST LET PEOPLE TALK TO US WITHOUT US ALWAYS HAVING TO RESPOND.
SO PIG PIGGYBACK ON WHAT HEATHER SAID.
I AM ALL FOR, UM, YOU KNOW, FREE SPEECH AND EXERCISING THAT.
AND I THINK THE ONE MINUTE DOES, UM, IT KIND OF, IT DOESN'T WANNA ELIMINATE, YOU KNOW, US BEING HELD HOSTAGE HERE BY, YOU KNOW, A BUNCH OF ACTIVISTS OR WHATEVER, BUT, UH, IT KIND OF CONTAINED THAT.
UM, I DO HAVE A QUESTION, UM, FOR THE THREE MINUTES.
IS IT, UM, JUST ON ONE, CAN SOMEBODY SPEAK ON MULTIPLE AGENDA ITEMS, SOUND TO SPEAK ON MULTIPLE AGENDA ITEMS THAT ARE ON THE SAME AGENDA? OR HOW DOES THAT WORK? SO THE WAY WE'VE CRAFTED IT IS NON-AG AGENDA SPEAKERS WOULD BE ONE MINUTE PERIOD.
SO IF THERE WERE 10 ITEMS THEY WANTED TO SPEAK ON, THEY'VE GOT ABOUT SIX SECONDS EACH TO MAKE THEIR POINTS OR, OR SIX SECONDS TO MAKE EACH OF THEIR POINTS.
CERTAINLY THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU ALL CAN DISCUSS AND, AND IF YOU WANT A DIFFERENT RULE, WE CAN CHANGE IT.
I WAS, I WAS, I WAS REFERRING TO THE AGENDA ITEMS, THE, THE ONES WHO ARE ACTUALLY ON THE AGENDA.
SO FOR THE THREE MINUTES RIGHT, THE AGENDA ITEMS, CAN SOMEBODY, SO TO SPEAK, ON MULTIPLE AGENDA ITEMS, WOULD THEY HAVE THREE MINUTES PER AGENDA ITEM? YES.
THREE MINUTES PER AGENDA ITEM.
NOT AS, AS OPPOSED TO A STRICT THREE MINUTES PER SPEAKER.
WHEN WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THOSE, UH, ITEMS UNDER 6.2 UH, MARGIN ITEMS. AND WITH RESPECT TO CITIZEN COMMUNICATIONS ON 6.3, UH, THAT WOULD BE THREE MINUTES PER ONE ITEM BECAUSE WE ARE LIMITING THOSE SPEAKERS TO, UH, ONE ITEM PER MEETING.
I WAS WONDERING ALSO IF WE CAN DO A BETTER JOB AT LETTING SOME OF THE SPEAKERS KNOW THAT WE CAN'T ENGAGE BACK
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AND FORTH WITH THEM.I KNOW IN ONE OF OUR RECENT MEETINGS, UM, WE HAD A CITIZEN THAT, UM, HE ASKED US NUMEROUS TIMES DIFFERENT QUESTIONS AND I DON'T KNOW HOW WE NEED TO GO ABOUT THIS, BUT ESPECIALLY IF WE VOTE TO ALLOW THIS, THESE NON AGENDA ITEMS TO BE SPOKEN ABOUT.
I I, I DON'T THINK WE'VE BEEN DOING A GOOD JOB OF, OF TELLING YOU, WELL, WE WE CAN'T TALK BACK TO YOU RIGHT NOW AND WE'VE GOTTA LET HIM KNOW.
AND, AND MAYBE WHAT I WOULD SUGGEST IS KINDA LIKE WHEN WE DO PUBLIC HEARINGS, THERE'D BE A VERY SHORT SCRIPT THAT I WOULD READ.
IF THERE'S PEOPLE THAT ARE SIGNED UP, THAT'S A GOOD IDEA.
IT WOULD SAY THIS, THIS IS THE RULES OF ENGAGEMENT, THIS IS THE THINGS YOU CAN DO OR NOT DO.
AND IN ADDITION, WE WILL HAVE IT HERE IN THE RULE AND, UH, IN OUR, UH, ON OUR AGENDAS.
AND ON THE PUBLIC SPEAKING FORM.
SO IT WILL BE AVAILABLE WIDELY.
ALTHOUGH AS WE ALL KNOW, UH, NOT EVERYBODY WHO COMES UP HERE TO SPEAK ON A NON AGENDA ITEM WILL BE, UH, PREPARED NOT TO HAVE, UH, A DEBATE WITH YOU ALL.
THANK YOU MR. BUT WE'LL TRY TO POLICE THAT AS MUCH AS WE CAN.
SO, SO LET ME ASK MR. ATTORNEY.
ATTORNEY, SO AFTER THE INPUT OF COUNSEL, WHAT'S ALL, WHAT'S, WHAT'S IN FRONT OF US WITH THAT SOLE APPLY? I KNOW COUNCILMAN POWELL DID MENTION ABOUT TO ADD THE ADDITIONAL LANGUAGE, LIKE IF WE WANTED TO SAY, HEY, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE ONE MINUTE, WE'D LIKE TO HEAR MORE.
AND, AND THEN THE PRESIDING OFFICER COULD EXTEND THAT.
AND SO IS THAT LANGUAGE IN HERE OR DO WE NEED TO INCLUDE THAT IN A MOTION? WE WOULD NEED TO INCLUDE THAT IN, UH, THE MOTION AND THEN WE CAN UH, I THINK THAT'S THE ONLY CHANGE I THINK THAT WE ALL, YEAH.
UM, I HAVE ONE MORE QUICK QUESTION.
UH, MAYOR, AND THIS IS PROBABLY A GIVEN, BUT I JUST HAVE TO VOICE IT.
UM, SINCE WE ARE DOING, UH, ZOOM SESSIONS, THAT WOULD APPLY TO ANYONE WANTING TO JUMP ON THE ZOOM AND AND SPEAK, CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT ON THE OPEN COMMUNICATIONS.
SO THEN I WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR FIVE B WITH INCLUDING THE, THE ONE, UM, ALLOWANCE, I GUESS FOR COUNSEL TO GO AND EXTEND ADDITIONAL TIME FOR, UM, A CITIZEN WHEN COMMUNICATING ON, IS IT CALLED CITIZEN COMMUNICATION ON NON AGENDA? AGENDA? OKAY, I'LL MAKE A MOTION.
WE APPROVE, UH, THE ORDINANCE OR I'M SORRY, THE RESOLUTION AS PRESENTED WITH THE ONE REVISION OF 6.3 BK AFTER THE ONE MINUTE AND THREE MINUTE LIMITS WE ADD UNLESS EXTENDED BY A MAJORITY VOTE OF COUNSEL.
ALRIGHT, SO WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, IF NOT, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF FIVE B? WITH AS AS MOTION PLEASE SAY AYE.
ALL THOSE OPPOSED? AYE CARRIES.
[6. CONSENT All Consent Agenda items listed are considered to be routine by the City Council and will be enacted by one motion. There will be no separate discussion of these items unless a Council Member requests, in which event the item will be removed from the Consent Agenda and considered in its normal sequence on the agenda.]
WE HAVE CONSENT.I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR ITEMS A THROUGH O UNLESS ANYTHING NEEDS TO BE PULLED.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF CONSENT? UH, THE POSTED CONSENT AGENDA, PLEASE SAY AYE.
[a. Consider one (1) appointment to the Animal Control Advisory Committee.]
ON TO SEVEN A CONSIDER ONE APPOINTMENT OF THE ANIMAL CONTROL ADVISORY COMMITTEE.UH, THIS IS POLICE CHIEF'S DESIGNEE.
UH, IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S A DETECTIVE JAMES KERR.
IS THAT STILL? NO, ACTUALLY SIR, IT'S TO DETECTIVE MIKE FARABEE.
JAMES KERR IS VACATING THAT POSITION.
SO, UM, I GUESS WE'D ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR APPROVAL OF THE CHIEF'S APPOINTMENT.
MOVE TO APPROVE SECOND MOTION, SECOND QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF SEVEN A.
THE CHIEF'S APPOINTMENT PLEASE SAY AYE.
[b. Consider three (3) appointments to the Baytown Police Advisory Committee.]
ITEM SEVEN B CONSIDERED THREE APPOINTMENTS AT THE BAYTOWN POLICE ADVISORY COMMITTEE.UH, WE HAVE AN APPOINTMENT FROM DISTRICT ONE AND DISTRICT SIX AT LARGE AND THE POLICE CHIEF'S DESIGNEE.
AND MY UNDERSTANDING ON THIS IS, UM, WE HAVE DORIS THOMAS, UH, FOR DISTRICT ONE WE HAVE, UH, LIEUTENANT RONNIE EVANS AS POLICE CHIEF DESIGNEE.
AND THEN, THEN DISTRICT SIX, ATHENA GREEN.
UM, THAT'S WHO'S VACATING? THAT'S WHO'S VACATING.
AND I'M NOT, YOU DON'T HAVE THE, OKAY.
AND MAYOR, I'VE NOTIFIED, UM, CITY MANAGER AND OUR CLERK'S OFFICE THAT I AM NOT READY AT THIS TIME EITHER TO APPOINT.
POLICE CHIEF, ARE YOU READY? YES SIR, I AM.
I'D LIKE TO, UH, APPOINT SERGEANT, UH, STEVE JONES.
AND SO I GUESS, UH, I WOULD ENTERTAIN APPROVAL FOR THE OTHER APPOINTMENT WAS FOR DISTRICT SIX.
SO THE, YEAH, THE ONLY APPOINTMENT FOR THIS, UH, COMMITTEE FOR THIS EVENING WILL BE, UM, OFFICER STEVE.
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SECOND.SERGEANT JONES, PLEASE SAY AYE.
[c. Consider one (1) appointment to the Baytown Fire Control, Prevention, and Emergency Medical Services District (FCPEMSD).]
WE'LL MOVE ON TO, UH, OUR NEXT APPOINTMENT WILL BE SEVEN C CONSIDER ONE APPOINTMENT TO THE BAYTOWN FIRE CONTROL PREVENTION EMERGENCY MEDICAL SERVICES DISTRICT.UH, WE HAVE A DISTRICT SIX AT LARGE.
COUNCILMAN, ARE YOU READY? I AM NOT, BUT I POINT OF PRIVILEGE, IF YOU DON'T MIND.
UM, MAURICE WATSON IS DROPPING OFF AND HE'S BEEN ON THAT COMMITTEE, UH, ALMOST SINCE CONCEPTION.
AND HE, HE WILL BE SORELY MISSED.
HE'S BEEN A GREAT ASSET TO THE CITY.
MY UNDERSTANDING THE REASON HE'S DROPPING OFF IS HE'S MOVING OUT OF TOWN.
SO, BUT, UH, I'LL BE READY NEXT TIME THERE.
[d. Consider one (1) appointment to the Baytown Municipal Development District (MDD).]
[e. Consider one (1) appointment to the Baytown Hospitality Public Facilities Corporation (BHPFC).]
ITEM SEVEN D IS CONSIDERED ONE APPOINTMENT TO THE BAYTOWN MUNICIPAL DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT.UH, IT IS AN AT LARGE POSITION.
UM, I BELIEVE THERE WAS, THERE'S SOME APPLICANTS.
UM, I WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR DISCUSSION ON ITEM SEVEN D, MOVE TO DISCUSS ITEM SEVEN.
SO WITH THIS, I KNOW THERE'S SOME APPLICANTS, UM, COUNSEL, WHAT'S YOUR, WHAT'S YOUR PLEASURE ON THIS ITEM? MAYOR, I WOULD PROPOSE THAT WE HOLD OFF ON FILLING THIS POSITION AT THIS TIME.
UM, WE, UH, HAD, I WANNA SAY IT WAS AT THE RETREAT, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT KIND OF TAKING AN OVERALL VIEW OF ALL OF THE, THAT'S CORRECT.
BOARD'S, COMMISSIONS, MM-HMM
AND I THINK THIS IS ONE I'D LIKE TO, I'D LIKE FOR US TO HAVE A LITTLE FURTHER DISCUSSION ON JUST, UM, THE MAKEUP OF IT, THE SIZE OF IT.
YOU KNOW, WE RECENTLY WENT UP TO, UH, 13 MEMBERS.
I THINK THAT'S A BIT OF AN OUTLIER WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE REST OF OUR BOARDS.
UM, AND SO I'D LIKE TO DISCUSS MAYBE GOING BACK DOWN TO 11.
UM, OBVIOUSLY WE CAN'T DO THAT RIGHT NOW 'CAUSE WE CURRENTLY HAVE 12 MEMBERS.
UM, I DON'T THINK WE WANT TO DRAW STRAWS OR KICK ANYONE OFF, BUT, SO I I I JUST PROPOSE WE, WE HOLD OFF ON MAKING THIS APPOINTMENT UNTIL WE CAN TALK A LITTLE MORE ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THIS SIZE AND THE MAKEUP OF IT.
I HAVE TO AGREE, MAYOR, UM, WITH MY COLLEAGUE AND, AND I KNOW I, I SPOKE TO IT, UM, WITH OUR CITY MANAGER AND JUST TRYING TO GET AN UNDERSTANDING OF THE IMPACT IT, IT WOULD MAKE WHEN WE WOULD MAKE THE DECISIONS.
AND, UM, IT'S CERTAINLY NOT TO, UM, CUT ANYONE OFF IN, IN TERMS OF GIVING THEM A VOICE TO, TO SIT ON THIS TYPE OF BOARD, BUT IT'S MORE OF THE, THE MANAGEMENT OF THE COMMITTEE.
AND SO, UM, THAT'S WHY I'M CHOOSING TO ALSO SUPPORT A REVIEW AND SEE, I MEAN, WE MAY REVIEW IT AND SAY, OKAY, WE'RE GONNA KEEP AS IS, BUT I THINK GIVING US THAT TIME TO REVIEW WOULD BE WARRANTED.
UM, WHAT IS THE HISTORY ON THE FACT, YOU SAID WE JUST ADDED ONE TO 13.
SO WHY WAS THAT DECISION MADE OR HOW DID THAT TAKE PLACE? IT WAS A, I MEAN, WITHIN THE LAST FEW MONTHS, I DON'T REMEMBER EXACTLY WHEN IT WAS.
YEAH, I WANNA BE MORE SPECIFIC.
TONIGHT IT'S A, WE'RE WORRIED ABOUT IT BEING TOO BIG, BUT JUST RECENTLY Y'ALL ADDED ONE, SO I JUST, I I'M CONFUSED ABOUT WHY WE ADD ONE AND NOW ALL OF A SUDDEN IT'S TOO BIG.
AND I DON'T THINK THIRTEENS TOO MUCH TO MISMANAGE.
I MEAN, THE COMMITTEE, I'D BE HAPPY TO.
I THINK THERE'S MORE YOUR SWIM LANE, RIGHT? YEAH.
SO, UM, I HAD, UH, PROPOSED TO REMOVE MYSELF FROM MDD BECAUSE I WANTED TO SEE MORE CITIZEN PARTICIPATION AND LESS ELECTED BODY.
AND MY RATIONALE WITH THAT WAS, UM, ALL OF MD'S DECISIONS COME TO CITY COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL OR DENIAL ANYWAYS.
SO I WANTED TO SEE MORE CITIZEN.
UM, I DIDN'T, BECAUSE OF OUR RULES AND PROCEDURES, IT REQUIRES THE MAJORITY OF COUNCIL TO APPROVE MY REMOVAL.
AND THEY DIDN'T WANNA DO THAT.
AND SO THE COMPROMISE PRESENTED BY COUNCILMAN LESTER WAS WHAT IF WE ADD MORE CITIZENS, WHICH WOULD EVEN OUT THE CITIZEN AND ELECTED BODY, UM, RATIO.
AND SO THAT'S WHAT THE COMPROMISE WAS AT THAT TIME.
I AGREE WITH COUNCILMAN POWELL THAT IT IS REALLY LARGE AND IT WAS AN UN IT'S UNNECESSARY TO BE SO LARGE.
UM, SO I WOULD SUPPORT US DISCUSSING WHAT SHOULD THE MAKEUP OF MDD BE TODAY.
IT WAS NEVER MY INTENT TO MAKE IT THAT LARGE.
MY ORIGINAL INTENT WAS MORE CITIZEN PARTICIPATION AND WHICHEVER WAY WE GO WITH THAT OR NOT GO WITH THAT WAS REALLY WHAT MY INTENT WAS.
NOT TO MAKE A BIGGER COMMITTEE.
SO IT, IT DOES IN MY OPINION, WARRANT DISCUSSION AMONGST US ON HOW WE WANNA SEE MBD MADE UP.
WELL MY, MY AGREEMENT WOULD BE THAT WE, I MEAN WE'RE DOING A REVIEW OF ALL OUR BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS, SO I THINK WE NEED TO REALLY FIRST TAKE THAT IN ACCOUNT AND THEN WE CAN MAKE A DECISION AT THAT POINT.
I JUST DON'T WANT ANYTHING TO BECOME STAGNANT WHERE WE'RE NOT MOVING FORWARD AND, AND LETTING THE CITIZENS PARTICIPATE.
AND THE FACT THAT WE OPENED UP THE APPLICATIONS, A LOT OF PEOPLE TO PUT IN THEIR APPLICATIONS.
WE, I PERSONALLY HAVE HEARD FROM PEOPLE WHO WERE INTERESTED.
SOME OF THEM EVEN STEPPED DOWN FROM OTHER COMMITTEES THAT THEY WERE INVOLVED IN.
AND SO I'M, I'M JUST A LITTLE CONCERNED THAT I KNOW THAT WE'RE WANTING TO
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MAKE SURE THAT OUR COMMITTEES ARE, ARE MORE PRECISE IN, IN THEIR TASK AND THEIR MISSIONS COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND THAT.BUT I DON'T WANT TO GET OFF SO FAR INTO A SITUATION WHERE WE'RE HAVING THESE DISCUSSIONS AND THE DISCUSSIONS GO ON FOREVER AND WE'RE NOT REALLY COMING TO A CONSENSUS ON WHERE WE'RE MOVING AND HOW WE'RE DOING THIS.
MAYOR, MAY I ADD SOMETHING TO THAT? HOLD ON.
I WANNA MAKE SURE EVERYBODY HAD A CHANCE TO SPEAK ONCE.
IS THERE ANYBODY HAD, AND I'LL JUMP INTO THAT AND, AND I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING MY COLLEAGUE JUST SAID.
AND SPEAKING OF THAT NIGHT, THE, THE, THE REASON I MADE THE MOTION TO EXPAND THE COMMITTEE THAT THAT EVENING WAS I DIDN'T WANT TO LOSE THE INSTITUTIONAL KNOWLEDGE THAT OUR COLLEAGUE HAD ON THE BOARD.
AND, AND SHE WAS PRETTY ADAMANT THAT SHE WANTED MORE CITIZEN PARTICIPATION.
WE DIDN'T HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO REALLY DISCUSS THAT AT ANY LENGTH BEFORE WE MADE THAT DECISION.
IT WAS, IT WAS, IT WAS MADE A DECISION HERE AT THE DIOCESE AND ACTUALLY DISCUSS IT THROUGH, I, I THINK IS REASONABLE REQUEST.
WE MAY END UP RIGHT WHERE WE ARE.
I I WOULD HOPE WE DO 'CAUSE IT, IT ADDS TO THE CITIZEN COMMUNICATION, BUT I CAN UNDERSTAND THEIR POSITION ON IT.
SO, YOU KNOW, I I DON'T THINK DELAYING IT JUST A LITTLE BIT ONE PER, IT'S NOT GOING TO DELAY MDD AT ALL ONE PERSON.
WE STILL MOVE FORWARD, BUT, BUT I THINK IT DESERVES TO HAVE A, A FULL DISCUSSION WITH THE TWO NEW MEMBERS OF COUNCIL AS WELL TO GET ALL'S OPINION ON BECAUSE IT IS A LARGE COMMITTEE.
UM, BUT, AND CITIZEN RATIO AND EVERYTHING IS IMPORTANT.
SO I THINK IT'S GOOD TO HAVE THAT DISCUSSION.
'CAUSE WE REALLY DIDN'T HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE DISCUSS NO.
IT JUST, IT HAPPENED ON THE DICE.
LET ME ASK, WHEN DO WE EXPECT TO HAVE KIND OF A, A, A READ, I GUESS A SUMMARY OF REVIEW FOR US TO DISCUSS? SO PART OF MY MANAGER REPORT TONIGHT, MAYOR WAS SUPPOSED TO TALK ABOUT ARE THE WORK SESSIONS THAT ARE AHEAD OF US.
I BELIEVE WE HAVE A SCHEDULING, UH, ISSUE TO DISCUSS FOR THE MAY ONE, MAY, MAY MEETINGS.
SO THAT HAS BEEN POSTPONED AT THIS POINT.
ONCE WE FIGURE THAT OUT, I WILL BRING BACK THE WORK SESSIONS FOR, UH, FOR THE COUNCIL.
BUT IT'S, IT'S, IT'S ON THE LAYOUT.
I'LL SEND Y'ALL THE DRAFT PROPOSAL TONIGHT THROUGH EMAIL, UM, WHERE THAT LOOKS LIKE, AND YOU'LL SEE WHERE THE WORK SESSIONS ARE ON THERE.
SO I, I THINK IT'S BEST TO FIRST GET THAT INFORMATION AND THEN WE CAN JUST DECIDE ON THAT AND ANY OTHER BOARDS I GUESS.
SO KEN, DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY? YEP.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE BEFORE I GO ON WITH MY COMMENTS? UH, I A LITTLE DISAPPOINTED 'CAUSE I, I DID HAVE A, I HAD HAD A, A PERSON TO, UH, NOMINATE, BUT I UNDERSTAND, UM, WE WANNA GET THIS RIGHT.
SO, UM, I'M GONNA TAKE THE, THE, UM, THE, UM, ADVICE OF THE COUNCIL AND, UH, CONSIDER THAT AND REALLY THINK IT OVER.
UM, MAYOR, WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO ADD THAT, UM, WELL FIRST AFTER HEARING BOTH COMMENTS THAT IF THERE WERE INDIVIDUALS THAT DROPPED OFF FROM OTHER COMMITTEES BECAUSE THEY WERE HOPING TO GET APPOINTED, THAT IF WE CAN HOLD OFF ON THEIR RESIGNATION AND GET THEM TO STAY WHERE THEY ARE, UM, I THINK THAT WOULD BE IDEAL.
UM, SO IF SOMEONE DID, IF Y'ALL KNOW OF SOMEONE WHO RESIGNED, THEN I WOULD PROBABLY GO BACK TO THEM IF THE POSITION HOPEFULLY HASN'T BEEN F REFILLED.
UM, WELL I JUST WANT ON THAT, IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT NOBODY DROPPED OFF PEOPLE THERE, THERE HAS BEEN, THERE WERE, THERE WERE APPLICANTS THAT SAYING IF THEY WERE APPOINTED THEY WOULD DROP.
UM, AND THEN I THINK ADDING A LITTLE MORE, AND WE CAN PROBABLY GO IN DEEPER INTO THE CONVERSATION WITH OUR WORK SESSIONS, BUT ONE THING I WANTED TO POINT OUT AND, AND I KNOW, UH, COUNCILMAN BENCO HAS BEEN A BIG ADVOCATE OF THIS, IS ONE OF THE, UM, THINGS THAT WE, I, I DON'T WANNA CALL IT A STRUGGLE, BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HAS HAPPENED IS THAT WE HAVE MEMBERS THAT HAVE SERVED FOR A LONG, LONG TIME.
AND SO WE AS AS COUNCIL, AS THE ONES THAT APPOINT THESE INDIVIDUALS AS YOU COME IN, LIKE, YOU KNOW, IF, IF BOTH OF Y'ALL CAME IN AND THERE'S SOMEONE THAT'S BEEN ON A BOARD AND YOU FEEL THAT THEY'VE SERVED THEIR TIME, YOU SPEAK WITH THEM AND YOU TALK TO THEM ABOUT HOW YOU WANT TO APPOINT SOMEONE, UH, COMING IN NEW, UM, THAT'S HOW I'VE SEEN IT.
WHEN I FIRST CAME ON, THERE WERE PEOPLE THAT HAVE SERVED 20 PLUS YEARS AND I WANTED TO APPOINT SOMEONE.
SO I THINK THAT'S A GOOD WAY FOR US TO MANAGE, UM, IS OBVIOUSLY APPRECIATING THE TIME THAT PEOPLE HAVE SERVED ON A COMMITTEE, BUT ALSO IF WE DO WANT TO HAVE ADDITIONAL VOICES, THEN THAT'S ONE MECHANISM THAT WE CAN USE.
UM, BUT, UH, I, I REALLY STRESS THE POINT OF ACTUALLY TALKING TO THE PERSON THAT YOU'RE WANTING TO REPLACE.
AND I'LL, I'LL BE, MAKE SURE I DO MY DUE DILIGENCE AND YOU KNOW, BECAUSE I HAVE SOME APPOINTMENTS COMING IN FOR THE SUMMER.
SO IS THERE ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS? IT SOUNDS LIKE, SO WE, WE MAY HEAR SOMETHING JUNE, LATE MAY, JUNE, AS FAR AS BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS REVIEW.
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TONIGHT.IT'S ON THE WORK SESSION SCHEDULE.
I JUST DON'T HAVE IT OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD MAN.
SO IT'S, IT'S IN THE NEAR FUTURE SO WE CAN JUST MAKE THAT DECISION.
SO I GUESS WITH THAT, LEMME, LEMME ASK THE MDD MAKEUP AND LET'S SAY PHYSICIANS AVAILABLE ALSO REFLECTS THE, THE HOSPITALITY SAME, RIGHT? SO ARE BOTH ITEMS THEN IN A SENSE? I MEAN THEY'RE, THEY'RE THEY'RE TOGETHER, RIGHT? SO WE'RE, YES, THEY CAN BE CONSIDERED TOGETHER.
SO WE SUSPEND ONE, THEN WE'LL SUSPEND OTHER TWO.
SO, UM, WITH THAT SAID, I WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO SUSPEND ITEM SEVEN D AND E UH, UNTIL AFTER REVIEW.
UM, AND A WORK SESSION IS COMPLETED OR THE REVIEW THAT'S GONNA BE COMMUNICATED FROM THE CITY MANAGER TO COUNCIL.
DO WE NEED A TIMELINE LIKE NO LATER THAN 90 DAYS THOUGH FOR TO FINALIZE THE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS? I'M SORRY, I WAS GETTING THE DATES.
SO US I'M TO HAVE THIS DISCUSSION.
SO THIS WAS ORIGINALLY SCHEDULED FOR THE MAY 25TH WORK SCH WORK SESSION.
UM, THE PROBLEM PIECE AND WHY I'M, I WASN'T PRESENTING IT TONIGHT IS THAT THERE MAY BE AN ISSUE ON SCHEDULING OF MAY 11TH MEETING.
UM, AND SO THAT WOULD BUMP THE MAY 11TH WORK SESSION, WHICH THE MAY MEETINGS OF THE TOW TRUCK POLICY MM-HMM
AND SO WE HAVE THE TOW TRUCK POLICY AND, AND THIS, UM, THIS WORK SESSION, THOSE ARE BIG WORK SESSIONS AND SO WE HAVE TO START SPREAD IT OUT.
SO I, I WOULD ASSUME LET'S, WE'LL JUST DO IT IN JUNE.
I HAVE A QUESTION IS, IS THE PRESENTATION YOU ARE GONNA MAKE TO US ABOUT BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS GERMANE TO THIS DISCUSSION? BECAUSE I DO AGREE WITH COUNCILWOMAN GRAHAM, I DON'T WANT THIS TO GO ON TOO LONG AND THERE'D BE TOO MUCH OF A GAP AT TIME.
SO I'M JUST WONDERING, DO WE HAVE TO WAIT FOR THAT PRESENTATION? WE DO NOT.
WE CAN ACTUALLY PUT IT ON A COUNCIL AGENDA ITEM AT THE NEXT MEETING AND DISCUSS IF COUNSEL WOULD LIKE THAT.
BUT WE HAVE, UH, PART OF, PART OF MY MANAGER'S REPORT, WHICH I, I WON'T NEED AT THIS POINT WAS, UM, LETTING Y'ALL KNOW THAT THE NEXT WORK SESSIONS FOR THE NEXT EIGHT MONTHS ARE BOOKED SOLID.
AND, UM, AND SO TO GET ANYTHING ELSE ON THERE, WE'RE GONNA HAVE, UM, WORK OR COUNSEL AGENDA ITEMS JUST SPECIFICALLY.
AND IF Y'ALL ARE WANTING THAT, WE CAN PUT THIS ON THE NEXT AGENDA.
CAN WE DO A SPECIAL MEETING OR A SPECIAL SESSION? I WON'T DO A SPECIAL MEETING FOR, FOR THIS, I MEAN, FOR AN APPOINTMENT.
NO, UNFORTUNATELY I AM OUT OF TOWN ON BUSINESS THE NEXT, UH, MEETING.
SO I'M GONNA RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THAT IT IS NOT ON THE NEXT COUNCIL AGENDA.
I'D REALLY LIKE TO BE A PART OF THIS DISCUSSION.
SO, UM, TILL JUNE, IT IS GONNA PUSH IT TILL JUNE.
'CAUSE UM, I BELIEVE MYSELF AND MAYOR PRO TIM ARE BOTH OUT OF TOWN ON THE 11TH OF MAY.
AND SO I ALSO WOULD ENTERTAIN SOME TYPE OF COUNCIL POLICY WHERE WE ACTUALLY, UM, COME BY DEFAULT HAVE A VICE MAYOR PRO TIM, BUT WE'LL GET INTO THAT AT A LATER POINT.
CAN I SPEAK BUT BY DEFAULT? YES, MA'AM.
I'M, YEAH, I DON'T HAVE MY CALENDAR MEMORIZED, BUT I'M GETTING REALLY CONCERNED NOW AT THIS POINT, EVEN THOUGH THIS MAY SEEM MINUTE BECAUSE WHEN WE GET INTO JUNE, THERE'S GONNA BE TIME.
I, I DON'T HAVE THE DATES MEMORIZED, BUT THERE'S GONNA BE A FEW TIMES THAT I'M NOT IN TOWN AND I DON'T KNOW.
SO I THINK WE ARE GONNA END UP WITH A SITUATION WHERE SOMETHING LIKE THIS IS, I'M ONE I'M, I'M CONCERNED THAT I'M NOT ABLE TO GIVE MY INPUT TO, UM, AN AT LARGE APPOINTMENT.
AND THEN NOW WE'RE GONNA HAVE A DISCUSSION AND I MAY OR MAY NOT BE AVAILABLE AND WE'LL MAKE SURE EVERYBODY'S AVAILABLE.
IT'S JUST, UM, I MEAN I THINK WE'RE GONNA PUT IT, I WANT TO DO A SPECIAL MEETING.
I'M SAYING WE JUST PUT IT ON AN AGENDA ITEM.
YOU KNOW, IT DON'T EVEN HAVE TO BE A WORK SESSION.
I GUESS IF WE CAN LOOK AT THE MAY 25TH REGULAR SCHEDULED MEETING.
WE, I WANNA DO A SPECIAL MEETING FOR IT, BUT IT COULD BE PART OF THE REGULAR AGENDA ITEM COURSE.
ARE YOU HERE FOR? YEAH, YEAH, I THINK SO.
THAT WAS THE WHOLE POINT OF THAT DISCUSSION, RIGHT? YES.
ALRIGHT, SO, AND MAKE SURE WE'RE ALL AVAILABLE.
WE SUSPEND SEVEN D AND E FOR UP TO 60 DAYS.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION PLEASE SAY AYE.
[8. MANAGER'S REPORT Notice is hereby given in accordance with Section 551.0415 of the Texas Government Code, the City Council of the City of Baytown may receive a report about items of community interest from City staff and/or a member of the City Council, but no action or possible action shall be taken or discussed concerning the subject of such report, except as provided by Section 551.042 of the Texas Government Code.]
WE HAVE A MANAGED REPORT IF THERE'S ANYTHING TO REPORT.UH, WILL YOU STILL HAVE THE HOSPITALITY? OH NO, NO.
UH, I NO LONGER HAVE ANYTHING TO REPORT ON THE MAN'S REPORT.
ALRIGHT, SO BEING THAT BAYTOWN CITY COUNCIL HAS ADDRESSED ALL POSTED AGENDA ITEMS, THIS MEETING'S NOT DONE.