* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:20] I [ CITY OF BAYTOWN NOTICE OF MEETING BAYTOWN POLICE ADVISORY COMMITTEE TUESDAY, OCTOBER 18, 2022 6:00 P.M. BAYTOWN CONFERENCE ROOM, CITY HALL 2401 MARKET STREET, BAYTOWN, TEXAS 77520 AGENDA CALL TO ORDER AND ANNOUNCEMENT OF QUORUM ] NOW CALL TO ORDER THIS MEETING OF THE BAYTOWN POLICE ADVISORY COMMITTEE FOR OCTOBER 18TH, 2022, AND ANNOUNCE THAT WE HAVE FOUR TO BEGIN. I WOULD LIKE TO, FOR OUR NEW PEOPLE TO INTRODUCE THEMSELVES, AND SO WE WANNA GO AROUND AND INTRODUCE OURSELVES TO, TO THE NEW PEOPLE. SO IF YOU WANNA START I DO NOT, BUT YES. , UH, NATALIE ROBINSON. I WORK FOR THE BAYTOWN POLICE DEPARTMENT. I'VE BEEN ON WITH THE CITY SINCE 2009. MY CURRENT FUNCTION IS DAY SHIFT PATROL, UM, TAKING ON A LOT OF DIFFERENT HATS, AND I WAS GIVEN THE HONOR OF BEING ABLE TO JOIN THIS COMMITTEE. IT'S SOMETHING I'VE BEEN INTERESTED IN AND LEARNING ABOUT THE CITY GOVERNMENT. AWESOME. THANK YOU. DO WE JUST WANNA GO AROUND? RICHARD? DO, DO YOU WANNA INTRODUCE YOURSELF? OKAY. SO I'M RICHARD HUNSINGER. I'M, UM, MY SECOND TWO YEAR ON THE, ON THE COMMITTEE. I REPRESENT DISTRICT FOUR. AND, UM, I'M HAPPY TO BE HERE, HAPPY TO SEE NEW PEOPLE. I GENE STANSKI. I'M STARTING MY, HAD A ONE YEAR TERM AND NOW I'M IN MY SECOND TERM, WHICH IS TWO YEARS . YEAH, SO IT'S LIKE SECOND YEAR, BUT SECOND TERM. ANYWAY, WHATEVER. I'M HERE. DISTRICT THREE, DR. MR. MORENO. I AM WAS VICE CHAIR OF LAST ROUND. I'M STARTING MY SECOND TERM, MY SECOND TWO YEAR TERM. UM, SO WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO REALLY WORK TOGETHER AND GET THE GROUND, GET LAY THE GROUNDWORK ESSENTIALLY. AND SO I KNOW US THREE HAVE BEEN TOGETHER SINCE THE BEGINNING, AND SO WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO BEING ABLE TO ADD NEW PEOPLE TO JOIN THE GROUP AND, AND TO MOVE FORWARD ON THAT. YEAH. MY NAME'S MICHAEL SPRINGER. I'M A LOCAL BAYTON. I'VE, UH, ACTUALLY THE MAYOR'S APPOINTEE, SO I DON'T REPRESENT A SPECIFIC DISTRICT. UH, AND I'VE ACTUALLY ONLY BEEN ON THE COMMITTEE FOR THREE MONTHS OR SO. YEAH, FOUR MONTHS MAYBE. TOMS SO, WELCOME. I'M DORIS THOMAS. IT'S THE FIRST TIME FOR ME, AND I DON'T KNOW ANYTHING. I'M JUST HERE TO LEARN. WE WILL, WE WILL HELP YOU OUT WITH ME DOWN. YES. BE CAREFUL WHAT YOU ASK. OH, I'M GONNA INTRODUCE MYSELF. I AM JARRIS MAES. I'M AN ATTORNEY FOR THE CITY, AND I AM HERE AS A STAFF MEMBER AND AS AN ADVISOR, ASSISTANT CHIEF MIKE HOLDEN. UM, I'M HERE IN PLACE OF CHIEF JOHN STRINGER TONIGHT. HE'S, UM, OFF AT TRAINING IN DALLAS. SO HE ASKED ME TO STEP IN THIS AFTERNOON. SO I'M REPRESENTING THE CHIEF THIS AFTERNOON, . AND I'M ANGELA JACKSON. I'M THE CITY CLERK, AND IT'S RAQUEL MARTINEZ, DEPUTY CITY CLERK. EXCELLENT, THANK YOU. UM, OKAY. SO [a. Consider the election of the Chairperson and Vice-Chairperson and the appointment of the Secretary.] OUR FIRST ITEM OF, OF THE AGENDA IS THE ELECTION OF OFFICERS, UH, THE CONSIDERATION OF THE ELECTION OF CHAIRPERSON AND VICE CHAIRPERSON AND THE APPOINTMENT OF THE SECRETARY. SO WE'LL START WITH THE CHAIRPERSON, UH, FOR THOSE NEW PEOPLE, UH, WE HAVE A, A SYSTEM THAT WE'RE DOING. SO ANGELA'S GOING TO PASS OUT OUR BALLOTS. SO ESSENTIALLY YOU'RE JUST GOING TO NOMINATE WHO YOU WOULD LIKE TO BE THE CHAIR CHAIRPERSON. AND WE'LL DO THE CHAIRPERSON FIRST, AND THEN WE'LL MOVE TO THE VICE CHAIRPERSON AND THEN MOVE FORWARD. I'D LIKE TO NOMINATE DR. MORENO FOR SURE. IT'S WRITTEN. WRITTEN WHERE? NO, YOU WRITE . IT'S WRITTEN ONLY WRITTEN NOMINATIONS. I THOUGHT WE WERE TAKING OH, WE WRITE THE NOMINATION. YES. RIGHT. YOU CAN DO IT IN ADVANCE THROUGH EMAIL OR WHATEVER, OR YOU CAN DO A WRITTEN NOMINATION TODAY. RIGHT BEFORE THE ELECTION SIGNATURE. UM, YOU DUNNO, ANYBODY. SO WHEN AM I SUPPOSED TO, UM, YOU DON'T, THIS ISN'T THE VOTE. NO, THIS IS JUST THE NOMINATION. THIS IS THE NOMINATION. SO IF, IF YOU'D LIKE TO NOMINATE SOMEBODY, YOU CAN INCLUDING YOURSELF IF YOU'D LIKE TO. YES. YOU CAN SELF NOMINATE . HEY, WE'LL GIVE YOU A YEAR. TRUST ME. NEXT, NEXT MEETING YOU CAN. OKAY. YOU MIGHT WALK OUT HERE BEING A VICE CHAIR. WATCH OUT. YEAH. . OKAY. WELL, IT'S UNANIMOUS. IT'S DR. MORENA. OH, SO WE NEED A MOTION IN THE, OKAY, SO NOW I SAY YOU LIKE THAT. MAY I HAVE A MOTION APPROVING THE, NOPE. NO. DO [00:05:01] WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE? APPROVE THE APPOINTMENT OF CHAIRPERSON. SO MOVED SECTION. YOU GOTTA BE FAST WITH THESE TWO. YEAH, . TRY TO THAT BABY BY. EXACTLY. OKAY. SO THE NEXT ITEM. ALL IN FAVOR? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. MY APOLOGIES. UH, ANY NAYS? ALRIGHT. UM, DO I HIT A GRAVEL? A GRAVEL OR NO, WE'RE GOOD. NOW WE LIKE TO CALL IT A GRAVEL. UM, OKAY. THE SECOND ONE WOULD BE THE CONSIDERATION FOR VICE CHAIR PERSON. SO ANGELA WILL PASS OUT, UH, PIECES OF PAPER FOR YOU'RE FINE. NO, NO, I'M NOT ACTUALLY A MEMBER. JUST A STAFF. IT'S VOTER FRAUD. VOTER FRAUD. . I WANT HEAR THAT STORY. THAT'S OKAY. OH, OKAY. YOU JUST KNOW SECRET BALANCE. YOU'LL GET TO KNOW US. YOU'LL GET TO KNOW US. YOU CAN WALK OUTTA YOUR, I WANNA SAY YOU'LL BE UNFORTUNATE ENOUGH TO GET TO KNOW ME. , JUST PICK A NAME. WOULD YOU GUYS TURN YOUR NAME, UM, PLANES AROUND SO SHE CAN SEE? ABSOLUTELY. YOU'LL GET FAMILIAR WITH ALL THE NAMES AT SOME POINT. DON'T PUT THIS ONE ON . YEAH. IT'S AWKWARD BEING NEW AND BEING ASKED TO VOTE ALREADY. YEAH. FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS, YOU'RE FIVE MINUTES, YOU GET TO VOTE. YEAH. OKAY. I HAVE FOUR VOTES FOR MR. SPRINGER AND I HAVE TWO VOTES FOR MR. RICHARD. OKAY. SO THAT'S A MAJORITY. THAT'S A MAJORITY. SO, UM, YOU NEED A MOTION BECAUSE NOW, UM, HE HAS THE MAJORITY. OKAY. SO A MOTION TO APPROVE, UH, MICHAEL SPRINGER FOR VICE CHAIR. YES. I WANNA TAKE, I'LL TAKE THIS ONE SECOND. IT, I, BECAUSE HE CAN'T DO YOUR OWN. I WAS GONNA STAY OUT. UH, ALL IN FAVOR OF SAY AYE. AYE. AYE. THOSE OPPOSED SAY NAY. ALL RIGHT, IT'S MOVED. YAY. YOU CAN MAKE THE CAPITAL DOWN. DO I DO REALLY? NO. OKAY. THIS THING I KIND OF WANTED. SO OUR NEXT ORDER, UM, CAN I KEEP GOING? I SERVE AS A SECRETARY, SO YOU HAVE TO, OKAY. SO AS IS WE NEED A MOTION FOR A SECRETARY. SO MOVED THAT. ANGELA. THANK YOU. THE SECRETARY. SECRETARY. I'LL SECOND. THERE YOU GO. . SECOND. OKAY. GOT IT. MOVED. SECOND. DID YOU GET THAT? YOU GOT IT. OKAY, SO THE NEXT VOTE. ALL IN FAVOR A. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? I KNOW. NO ONE'S OPPOSED. NO, NO ONE'S. YEAH. NO. RIGHT. AYE, . OKAY, SO THEN NOW I CAN MOVE ON. OKAY. SO THE NEXT ITEM [a. Consider approving the minutes of the Baytown Police Advisory Committee Meeting held on September 20, 2022.] OF THE AGENDA TODAY IS THE CONSIDERATION OF APPROVING THE MINUTES OF THE BAYTOWN POLICE ADVISORY COMMITTEE MEETING HELD ON SEPTEMBER 20TH, 2022. MAY I HAVE A MOTION APPROVING THE MINUTES AS SUBMITTED? SO, UH, MAY I HAVE A SECOND? I GUESS I'LL SECOND THAT ONE. WE CAN STILL SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CORRECTIONS PASSES. GOOD. OKAY. DO WE NEED CORRECTIONS? I MEAN, YOU CAN ASK FOR CORRECTIONS. DO YOU ANY CORRECTIONS? ANY CORRECTIONS? NOTHING. OKAY. ALRIGHT. SO THE NEXT ITEM [a. Receive citizen input concerning police outreach, community policing, officer training, as well as policies and procedures.] OF THE AGENDA TODAY IS CITIZEN INPUT, UH, TO RECEIVE CITIZEN INPUT CONCERNING POLICE OUTREACH, COMMUNITY POLICING OFFICER TRAINING, AS WELL AS POLICIES AND PROCEDURES. AND I WAS TOLD THAT DR. STANSKI, HI, I'LL PUT MY OTHER HAT ON. IT'S CONCERNED. CITIZEN, YOU SIGNED UP AS A CITIZEN. WHAT? AND THEN READ THE WHAT'S IN READ. OKAY. THIS ITEM GIVES ALL INTERESTED PERSONS, I HAVE TO READ THIS, THE, THE RIGHT TO EXPRESS THEIR VIEWS REGARDING POLICE OUTREACH, COMMUNITY POLICING OFFICER TRAINING, AS WELL AS POLICIES AND PROCEDURES. IT IS THE GOAL AND MISSION OF THIS COMMITTEE TO ENHANCE AND ENCOURAGE COMMUNICATION BETWEEN THE RESIDENTS OF THE CITY AND TO PROVIDE VALUABLE COMMENTS, SUGGESTIONS, AND RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE CITY COUNCIL. EVERYONE DESIRING TO SPEAK SHOULD HAVE EITHER SIGNED THE LIST ON THE BACK TABLE OR EMAILED THE CITY CLERK PRIOR TO THE POSTED TIME OF THIS MEETING. EACH PARTICIPANT SHALL GIVE HIS HER NAME AND ADDRESS IN ORDER TO PROVIDE A PROPER RECORD. THE RULES ALLOW EACH PERSON THREE MINUTES TO PRESENT INFORMATION. HOWEVER, I ENCOURAGE EVERYONE TO BE AS BRIEF AND TO THE POINT AS POSSIBLE. ADDITIONALLY, PURSUANT TO OUR RULES, [00:10:01] A PERSON REQUESTING TO ADDRESS THE COMMITTEE MAY NOT PASS HIS OR HER TIME TO ANOTHER AS WE WANT TO HEAR DIRECTLY FROM EACH INDIVIDUAL TODAY. OKAY? SO, DR. KY, I'M STILL JUNE STANSKI AND I LIVE AT 46 0 1 DRIFTWOOD DRIVE, BAYTOWN 7 7 5 2 1. AND SINCE WE HAVE NEW PEOPLE HERE, I'LL JUST KIND OF GIVE A LITTLE BACK HISTORY AS TO, UM, MY REASON FOR ORIGINALLY JOINING THE MAYOR'S, UM, POLICE ADVISORY COMMITTEE IN 2019 AFTER THE SHOOTING KILLING OF PAMELA TUCK, UM, CARTER. AND THERE WAS A LOT OF UNREST IN THE CITY AFTER THIS KILLING THAT MADE NATIONAL TV SHOOTING ON TV OF, OF AN OFFICER KILLING A CIVILIAN, UM, TASING AND SHOOTING HER WHILE SHE WAS ON THE GROUND. AND SO THE MAYOR, UM, HAD A 25 MEMBER COMMITTEE, WHICH WAS A LITTLE OUT OF, IT WAS BIGGER THAN THIS ROOM. UM, AND WE CAME UP WITH SOME BASIC IDEAS, BUT BECAUSE OF OUR CITY GOVERNMENT SYSTEM, THE MAYOR WASN'T ABLE TO REALLY ACT ON ANY OF OUR SUGGESTIONS. AND SO THE CITY COUNCIL STARTED THIS COMMITTEE AND WE HAVE BEEN, YOU KNOW, TALKING WITH OUR PAST CHIEF AND OUR CURRENT CHIEF, AND I THINK WE'VE DONE SOME REALLY GOOD THINGS ABOUT MENTAL ILLNESS BECAUSE, UM, PAMELA WAS, HAD SOME MENTAL ILLNESS PROBLEMS. WELL, LAST WEEK, THE GRAND JURY AND EVERYBODY FINALLY, THEY FINALLY HELD THE TRIER TRIAL AGAINST, UM, OFFICER CRUZ DE LA CRUZ, WHO'S BEEN ON THE CITY PAYROLL THIS WHOLE TIME DUE TO CIVIL SERVICE LAWS. AND THE JUDGE OPTED NOT TO ACCEPT, UM, TESTIMONY OR BACKGROUND INFORMATION ABOUT, UM, MS. TURNER'S MENTAL ILLNESS AND OTHER THINGS AS EVIDENCE IN THE TRIAL. AND THE OFFICER WAS FOUND INNOCENT, NOT GUILTY, NOT GUILTY. AND I'M JUST WONDERING, IS THE CITY PREPARING FOR ANY UNREST? UM, I'M NOT RESTING. DOESN'T MAKE ME HAPPY AT ALL. UM, IS OFFICER DELACRUZ GOING THROUGH MORE TRAINING ON MENTAL ILLNESS ALONG WITH OUR OTHER OFFICERS WHO HAVE BEEN DOING SUCH? IS HE GOING TO BE ALLOWED TO PATROL ANYMORE? ARE MY BA BASIC CONCERNS? UM, I JUST DON'T FEEL RIGHT. I DON'T FEEL THE RIGHT DECISION WAS WAS MADE. AND THAT IS MY COMMENTS. THOSE ARE MY COMMENTS. THERE WE GO. LITTLE BIT OF PROPER ENGLISH EVIDENCE LAW. AND AGAIN, AS I KNOW AS THIS COMMITTEE, YOU DON'T HAVE TO ADDRESS ME DIRECTLY, BUT I JUST WANT THE STATEMENT ON RECORD THAT I DON'T THINK IT WAS A GOOD DECISION. AND I'M SURE THERE ARE PLENTY OTHER PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY THAT DON'T THINK SO EITHER. SO THANK YOU. THANKS. THANK YOU. MM-HMM . UM, THERE IS NO ONE ELSE ON THE LIST THERE BEING NO ONE ELSE DESIRING TO SPEAK. I WANT TO THANK EACH OF YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS TODAY. PLEASE BE ASSURED THAT THIS COMMITTEE HAS HEARD YOU WILL THOROUGH, THOUGHTFULLY CONSIDER EACH MATTER RAISED AND WILL FORMULATE RECOMMENDATIONS FOR CITY COUNCILS TO CONSIDER. THE NEXT [a. Receive community input obtained by the Baytown Police Advisory Committee Members.] ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS THE COMMUNITY INPUT TO RECEIVE COMMUNITY INPUT OBTAINED BY THE BAYTOWN POLICE ADVISORY COMMITTEE MEMBERS. ANYBODY HAVE ANYTHING TO BRING FROM THEIR SPACES OR THEIR COMMUNITIES THAT THEY, THEY WANT TO? I MEAN, I HAVE A MINOR, UH, ISSUE. UH, WE HAD A, A FIREFIGHTER THAT LIVES IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD WAS TELLING ME, UM, THIS WAS JUST A SUGGESTION FOR PATROL ON, UH, BAYWAY DRIVE THAT DURING, UH, PEAK TRAFFIC TIMES WHEN THE REFINERIES ARE CHANGING SHIFTS THAT PEOPLE ARE USING GREENBRIAR AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO CIRCUMVENT BAYWAY DRIVE AT SOMETIMES HIGH RATES OF SPEED. APPARENTLY, UH, THAT WAS BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION. OKAY. WHAT ARE LOW PEAK TIMES FOR, I'M NOT A HUNDRED PERCENT SURE, BUT IT'S FIVE TO FIVE 30, SOMETHING LIKE THAT. MM-HMM . SUNRISE. AND JUST BEFORE SUNSET BASICALLY WORKS ON ANY OTHER PLANTS IN THE AREA? JUST AN OFFICE? NO, IT'S A GOOD QUESTION. I JUST DON'T KNOW EXACTLY THE ANSWER. I ASSUMED KIND OF THE POLICE WOULD KNOW, [00:15:02] BE, BE NOTED. LAKE ORDERS, . OKAY. UM, ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANYTHING THERE BEING NO ONE ELSE DESIRING TO SPEAK? I WILL MOVE FORWARD TO THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM TRAINING, [a. Receive training on the Texas Open Meetings Act and the Texas Public Information Act, and receive an overview of the City's policy regarding the conduct of city business through written communication on personal communication accounts/devices.] UH, TO RECEIVE TRAINING ON THE TEXAS OPEN MEETINGS ACT AND THE TEXAS PUBLIC INFORMATION ACT TO RECEIVE AN OVERVIEW OF THE CITY'S POLICY REGARDING THE CONDUCT OF CITY'S BUSINESS THROUGH WRITTEN COMMUNICATION ON PERSONAL COMMUNICATION ACCOUNTS AND DEVICES. SO I, I BELIEVE ANGELA'S BRINGING THAT UP FOR US. YES. THANK YOU. UM, OKAY. SO AS SHE SAID FROM THE AGENDA ITEM, BASICALLY JUST SOME OVERVIEW OF SOME BASIC, UM, OPEN MEETINGS AND PUBLIC INFORMATION. I'M GONNA TOUCH ON EMAILS A LITTLE BIT TOO, BECAUSE THAT FALLS IN UNDER OPEN MEETINGS AND WELL MOSTLY PUBLIC INFORMATION, BUT, UM, OKAY. VERY GOOD. ALRIGHT. SO, YOU KNOW, WHAT IS THE OPEN MEETINGS ACT? SOME OF YOU ARE PROBABLY QUITE FAMILIAR WITH THIS, BUT OTHERS MAY NOT BE AS MUCH. UM, THE ACT PROVIDES THAT MEETINGS OF GOVERNMENTAL BODIES MUST BE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC, AND THE PUBLIC MUST BE GIVEN NOTICE OF THE TIME, PLACE AND SUBJECT MATTER OF MEETINGS OF GOVERNMENTAL BODIES. AND SO WHY IS IT APPLICABLE TO BE PAC? AND THAT IS BECAUSE OF THE RESOLUTIONS ESTABLISHING THE COMMITTEE PROVIDE THAT THE COMMITTEE MEETINGS WILL BE SUBJECT TO THE ACT AND THE LITTLE SUN, THERE'S REPRESENTATION OF THE SUNSHINE, RIGHT? . UM, SO WHEN DOES THE ACT APPLY? WELL, WHEN A QUORUM GATHERS AND DISCUSSES PUBLIC BUSINESS, THEN REGARDLESS OF WHETHER, UM, THERE'S ANY ACTION OR VOTE TAKEN, IT CAN APPLY. AND SO, YOU KNOW, THE LITTLE PICTURE HERE IS OBVIOUSLY FOUR PEOPLE SITTING AROUND, RIGHT? AND IF THERE IS A QUORUM AND YOU GUYS JUST HAPPEN TO ALL RUN INTO EACH OTHER AT WALMART, DON'T TALK CITY BUSINESS, OKAY? BECAUSE THAT WILL MEAN THAT THIS SHOULD BE TAKING PLACE, UH, WHEN A QUORUM GATHERS TO SOLICIT INFORMATION FROM, GIVE INFORMATION TO, OR ASK QUESTIONS OF OR RECEIVE INFORMATION FROM ANY THIRD PERSON, INCLUDING AN EMPLOYEE ABOUT PUBLIC BUSINESS OR PUBLIC POLICY FOR WHICH THE GOVERNMENTAL BODY HAS SUPERVISION. SO, UM, JUST REMEMBER THAT AGAIN, WHEN WE ARE IN THIS ROOM OR THE OTHER ROOM, WHICHEVER, BUT IF WE'RE IN A MEETING HERE, OBVIOUSLY WE KNOW THAT THIS IS GONNA APPLY AT THAT TIME. UM, AND SO WINTER GATHERINGS OF A QUORUM, NOT SUBJECT TO THE ACT, UM, SO GATHERING OR A QUORUM AT A SOCIAL FUNCTION UNRELATED TO THE PUBLIC BUSINESS THAT IS CONDUCTED BY THE COMMITTEE. SO IF YOU GUYS, AGAIN, ONE OF THOSE, HEY, WE WENT TO THE LOCAL HIGH SCHOOL FOOTBALL GAME AND THERE HAPPENED TO BE FOUR OF YOU THERE. IT'S OKAY. JUST DON'T TALK TO CITY BUSINESS. YOU'LL BE ALL RIGHT. WOULD IT BE FIVE? DO WE HAVE FIVE? HOW MANY MEMBERS DO WE HAVE? NOW? WE'RE SUPPOSED TO HAVE NINE. I DON'T KNOW WHERE ALL THE OTHER FIVE IT'D BE FINE. FIVE. THERE'S WHAT? FIVE? WE DO HAVE NINE NOW. ONE VACANT. OKAY. UM, ALRIGHT, SO ATTENDANCE VIA A QUORUM AT A REGIONAL STATE OR NATIONAL CONVENTION WORKSHOP, CEREMONIAL EVENT OR PRESS CONFERENCE. SAME KIND OF THING. UH, IT'S NOT UNCOMMON. FOR INSTANCE, OUR CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS, THEY MAY ALL GO TO A SAME CONFERENCE, THEY JUST CAN'T TALK CITY BUSINESS. THEY HAVE TO BE CAREFUL ABOUT THAT. UM, ATTENDANCE BY QUORUM AT A CANDIDATE FORUM, APPEARANCE OR DEBATE, UH, TO INFORM THE ELECTORATE. SO, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT ELECTIONS GOING ON RIGHT NOW. IF THERE WAS SOME CANDIDATE THERE, YOU GUYS ALL HAPPEN TO BE IN THE AUDIENCE. THAT'S GONNA BE OKAY. THE FORUM'S GOING ON RIGHT NOW WHILE WE'RE HERE. . THERE WE GO. SO, YOU KNOW, BASICALLY WHAT THIS HAS TO DO WITH INFORMAL ACTION IS NOT TAKEN AND ANY DISCUSSION OF PUBLIC BUSINESS IS INCIDENTAL TO THE SOCIAL FUNCTION. CONVENTION WORKSHOP, CEREMONIAL EVENT, PRESS CONFERENCE FORUM, APPEARANCE OR DEBATE. THAT'S A LOT OF WORDS, SO SORRY FOR THAT . UM, SO WINTER GATHERINGS OF A QUORUM, ALSO, AGAIN, NOT SUBJECT TO THE ACT, ATTENDANCE OF THE COMMITTEE AT A MEETING OF A COMMITTEE OR AGENCY OF THE LEGISLATURE. SAME THING. IF THE DELIBERATIONS, UH, CONSIST SOLELY OF PUBLICLY TESTIFYING, COMMENTING, OR RESPONDING TO QUESTIONS ASKED BY A MEMBER OF THE LEGISLATOR COMMITTEE. SO IN THAT CASE, IT'S ALMOST LIKE TALKING CITY BUSINESS, BUT YOU'RE NOT TALKING CITY BUSINESS. YOU'RE DOING IT ONLY AS A PART OF TESTIFYING. IF YOU GUYS ALL WENT TO THE LEGISLATOR TOMORROW AND WANTED TO TALK TO THEM, YOU COULD, BUT IT WOULD NOT, UH, INITIATE THE ACT. ALRIGHT? SO WHERE AND FOR HOW LONG MUST AN OPEN MEETING BE POSTED? A NOTICE MUST BE [00:20:01] POSTED ON A BULLETIN BOARD AT A PLACE CONVENIENT TO THE PUBLIC IN CITY HALL. IT'S POSTED ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE AND READILY ACCESSIBLE AT ALL TIMES FOR AT LEAST 72 HOURS PRECEDING THE MEETING. AND SO THAT'S KEY. THAT 72 HOURS IS THE MAGIC NUMBER THERE. UM, IT, YOU KNOW, IF IF WE WERE TO MAKE MISTAKES AND NOT GET IT IN THERE FOR SOME REASON, THEN WE WOULD MOST LIKELY JUST POSTPONE THE MEETING, UM, BECAUSE WE DO WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'VE GOT THAT DONE. ARE THERE ANY EXCEPTIONS TO THE NOTICE REQUIREMENT? THERE ARE FEW VERY RARE. UM, A RECESS OF A POSTED MEETING TO THE NEXT BUSINESS DAY IN THE, IF THE RECESS WAS IN GOOD FAITH AND NOT TAKEN TO CIRCUMVENT THE OPEN MEETINGS ACT. IF WE COULDN'T FINISH THIS MEETING TILL MIDNIGHT TONIGHT, AND WE DECIDED, GOSH, WE GOTTA GO HOME, LET'S FINISH THIS TOMORROW. YOU COULD DO THAT. HOPEFULLY THAT WILL NEVER HAPPEN. UH, FOR AN EMERGENCY WHERE THERE IS AN URGENT PUBLIC NECESSITY IF ONE HOUR NOTICE IS GIVEN AND SPECIAL NOTICE IS GIVEN, UH, TO THE NEWS MEDIA. SO THAT'S UNIQUE. UH, AGAIN, AN EMERGENCY. THESE ARE THINGS THAT CAN COME WITH, UH, CITY COUNCIL, RIGHT? UH, EMERGENCIES CAN HAPPEN AND, AND CITY COUNCIL MAY DO THAT, BUT IT'S VERY UNLIKELY THAT THIS BOARD WOULD EXPERIENCE SOMETHING LIKE THAT. UM, WHAT MUST A NOTICE OF AN OPEN MEETING CONTAIN? WELL, IT HAS TO CONTAIN THE DATE, THE HOUR, THE PLACE, AND THE DESCRIPTION OF EACH ITEM TO BE DISCUSSED AT THE MEETING. YOU GUYS THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN HERE, YOU KNOW, THAT'S EXACTLY HOW THESE AGENDAS ARE SET UP. IT SPELLS OUT THE INFORMATION. SO THEN THE QUESTION IS, HOW SPECIFIC MUST THE WORDING BE FOR EACH AGENDA ITEM POSTED? SO THE NOTICE UNDER THE LAW MUST BE SUFFICIENT TO ALERT THE PUBLIC IN GENERAL TERMS OF THE SUBJECTS THAT WILL BE DISCUSSED AND CONSIDERED. SO, DESCRIPTIONS, THESE ARE EXACT, UH, UH, THINGS THAT HAVE TAKEN PLACE THAT PEOPLE HAVE TRIED AND IT'S, IT'S NOT SUCCESSFUL. UM, ARE THINGS LIKE, OH, BUSINESS OR PERSONNEL MATTERS? LITIGATION MATTERS. STAFF REPORTS. THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF CAVEAT ON STAFF REPORTS. 'CAUSE SOMETIMES A REPORT BY A, UH, A STAFF MEMBER COULD BE, OKAY, WHAT'S THE CELL PHONE? UM, THERE ARE TIMES WHEN, LIKE, YOU'LL SEE, LIKE AT CITY COUNCIL, YOU'LL SEE THE CITY MATTERS REPORT, UM, AND THINGS LIKE THAT. YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE ANY MORE SPECIFIC THAN THAT. SO THOSE, THAT ONE'S A LITTLE BIT OF AN EXCEPTION. WHEN CAN A MEETING START? WELL, IT CAN START AT THE POSTED TIME, RIGHT? YOU DON'T EVER WANNA START TOO EARLY, BUT YOU DO HAVE TO HAVE A QUORUM PRESENT. SO THE AUTHORITY DELEGATED TO A GOVERNING BODY MAY BE EXERCISED ONLY AT A MEETING OF A QUORUM OF ITS MEMBERS. IT HAPPENS EVERY ONCE IN A GREAT WHILE. NOT SO MUCH WITH THIS BOARD. THANK GOODNESS YOU GUYS ARE ALL REALLY GREAT AT SHOWING UP. BUT IT DOES HAPPEN EVERY NOW AND THEN. WE'RE, YOU KNOW, WE JUST DON'T HAVE A QUORUM. PEOPLE COULDN'T MAKE IT. SOMEBODY GOT SICK, UH, IT HAPPENS AND THEN WE JUST, WE'RE NOT ABLE TO HAVE THE MEETING. UH, SO, UH, WHAT CAN MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE DO IF AN UNPOSTED ISSUE IS RAISED AT AN OPEN MEETING? WELL, A MEMBER OF THE COMMITTEE MAY RESPOND WITH A STATEMENT OF SPECIFIC FACTUAL INFORMATION OR RECITE THE COMMITTEE'S EXISTING POLICY ON THAT ISSUE. OR YOU COULD ALSO DIRECT THE PERSON MAKING THE INQUIRY TO VISIT WITH CITY STAFF ABOUT THE ISSUE OR OFFER TO PLACE THE ITEM ON THE AGENDA FOR DISCUSSION IN A FUTURE MEETING. AND WE'VE HAD THAT HERE BEFORE. UH, WE'VE HAD, YOU KNOW, PASTOR ERIC WOULD SAY, UH, MAYBE WE CAN ADD THAT, OR HE'LL SAY, MAYBE THEY CAN TALK TO THE CHIEF, YOU KNOW, DIRECT, DIRECT THEM IN A CERTAIN DEGREE. BUT WHAT WE'RE NOT ABLE TO DO IS ENGAGE. WE CAN'T HAVE A, A DISCUSSION. SO CAN THE COMMITTEE RECEIVE A REPORT? AND THIS IS WHAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT EARLIER AT A MEETING REGARDING A TOPIC THAT IS NOT POSTED ON THE AGENDA. YES, IF, IF THE REPORT IS GIVEN BY STAFF OR A COMMITTEE MEMBER, IF THE REPORT IS ABOUT AN ITEM OF COMMUNITY INTEREST AND NO ACTION IS TAKEN, AND POSSIBLE ACTION EVEN IS NOT DISCUSSED AT ALL, THEN THE NEXT QUESTION IS, WHAT IS AN ITEM OF COMMUNITY INTEREST? WELL, I'M GLAD YOU ASKED. UM, EXPRESSIONS OF THANKS, UH, CONGRATULATIONS OR CONDOLENCE INFORMATION REGARDING HOLIDAY SCHEDULES ON HONORARY OR SALUTARY, UH, RECOGNITION OF A PUBLIC, OFFICIAL PUBLIC EMPLOYEE OR ANOTHER CITIZEN, UH, DOES NOT INCLUDE A DISCUSSION OF A CHANGE IN STATUS OF A PUBLIC OFFICE OR EMPLOYEE. SO WE DON'T WANNA GO QUITE THAT FAR. UM, BUT A REMINDER ABOUT AN UPCOMING EVENT IS, OKAY, ORGANIZED OR SPONSORED [00:25:01] BY THE COMMITTEE, INFORMATION REGARDING A COMMUNITY EVENT ORGANIZED OR SPONSORED BY ANOTHER ENTITY THAT WAS ATTENDED, OR IS SCHEDULED TO BE ATTENDED BY A MEMBER OF THE COMMITTEE OR EMPLOYEE. AND ANNOUNCEMENTS INVOLVING AN IMMINENT THREAT TO THE PUBLIC HEALTH AND SAFETY THAT HAS ARISEN, ARISEN AFTER THE POSTING OF THE AGENDA. AGAIN, VERY RARE. OKAY, MOVING ON TO OUR NEXT TOPIC. PUBLIC INFORMATION ACT. I KNOW THIS IS REALLY EXCITING, SO YOU GUYS MAY HAVE TO KEEP IT DOWN A LITTLE BIT. UM, WHAT IS THE PUBLIC INFORMATION? LET'S START THERE. UM, IT IS THE LAW THAT ENSURES THAT EACH PERSON IS ENTITLED UNLESS OTHERWISE EXPRESSLY, UH, PROHIBITED BY LAW, UM, AT ALL TIMES. TO COMPLETE INFORMATION ABOUT THE AFFAIRS OF GOVERNMENT AND THE OF OFFICIAL ACTS OF PUBLIC OFFICIALS AND EMPLOYEES. WHY IS IT APPLICABLE TO THE BPAC? WELL, BECAUSE THIS COMMITTEE IS SUPPORTED BY PUBLIC FUNDS. UM, AND SO THEN YOU MAY WANNA KNOW WHAT IS THE PUBLIC INFORMATION THAT IS GOING TO BE ANY INFORMATION THAT IS COLLECTED, ASSEMBLED, OR MAINTAINED BY OR FOR A GOVERNMENTAL BODY, REGARDLESS OF FORMAT, RIGHT? SO IT DOESN'T MATTER IF WE'RE TALKING, UM, YOU KNOW, VIDEOS OR IF WE'RE TALKING EMAILS OR WE'RE TALKING, UH, PRINTED COPIES. UM, AND HOW DO YOU ACTIVATE THE PUBLIC INFORMATION REQUEST? BASICALLY, YOU'RE DOING THIS BY A WRITTEN REQUEST OR BY FAX OR EMAIL. I HOPE YOU DON'T USE FAX THOUGH. THAT'S, THAT DOESN'T WORK SO WELL ANYMORE. UM, AND REQUEST TO THE CITY CLERK BECAUSE OUR CITY CLERK IS APPOINTED AS OUR PUBLIC INFORMATION OFFICER. AND SO THAT REQUEST NEEDS TO GO TO HER. UM, AND SO THAT IT, IT HAS TO BE IN WRITING, WHICH WRITING IS ALSO IN AN EMAIL, UH, ONCE RECEIVED, THERE ARE SPECIFIC TIMEFRAMES BY WHICH THE CITY MUST RESPOND OR REQUEST AN AG OPINION. UM, THOSE TIMELINES ARE VERY SPECIFICALLY LAID OUT IN THE LAW TRAINING. THE PUBLIC INFORMATION ACT REQUIRES THAT MEMBERS OF A GOVERNING BODY COMPLETE A COURSE OF TRAINING WITHIN 90 DAYS OF TAKING THE OATH OF OFFICE. AND THE AG HAS PRODUCED A VIDEO WHICH CAN BE USED TO SATISFY THIS TRAINING REQUIREMENT. ONCE A MEMBER OR A OR OF A GOVERNING BODY HAS COMPLETED THE COURSE, THEN THE CERTIFICATE OF COURSE COMPLETION MUST BE FILED WITH THE CITY CLERK. A PUBLIC OFFICIAL MAY DESIGNATE THE CITY CLERK, THE CITY'S PUBLIC INFORMATION COORDINATOR, WHICH IS WHAT WE HAVE DONE, UH, TO SATISFY THE TRAINING REQUIREMENTS. AND LAST BUT NOT LEAST, CITY EMAIL POLICY. UH, JUST TO GIVE YOU IDEA, THERE ARE, UM, EMAILS ARE OBVIOUSLY SUBJECT TO THE PUBLIC INFORMATION ACT. UM, AND SO THEY MUST BE TIMELY GATHERED. IF, YOU KNOW, IF WE WERE TO COME TO YOU AND SAY, DO YOU HAVE ANY, YOU KNOW, EMAILS WHERE YOU'VE TALKED ABOUT GOVERNMENT BUSINESS? THOSE WOULD HAVE TO, YOU HAVE TO REMEMBER WE TALKED ABOUT THE TIMELINES, RIGHT? SO WE HAVE TO HAVE THOSE DOCUMENTS IN A TIMELY WAY AND WE WOULD GATHER THEM AND USE THEM ALL AS PART OF A RESPONSE, UM, TO THE PUBLIC INFORMATION REQUEST. UM, ALL INFORMATION MUST BE GATHERED SUBJECT TO RECORDS RETENTION POLICY. SO, UM, I'M NOT GONNA GO INTO ALL THE RETENTION POLICY, BUT IF YOU GUYS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, YOU ARE WELCOME TO FORWARD ANY QUESTIONS TO ME OR THE CITY CLERK. AND, UM, BUT JUST KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S ALWAYS A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TIME DEPENDING ON THE KIND OF INFORMATION. AND IF IT'S PAST THE RETENTION PERIOD AND IT'S DELETED, THEN EVERYBODY'S GOOD. BUT YOU WANNA SAVE THOSE UNTIL THAT RETENTION PERIOD IS UP. AND SO THE CITY POLICY WITH REGARDS TO EMAIL IS, UH, APPLICABLE TO THE CITY COUNCIL AND ALL OF ITS BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS. IT REQUIRES THAT WRITTEN COMMUNICATION TRANSMITTED ELECTRONICALLY MUST BE DONE SO THROUGH PUBLIC RATHER THAN PRIVATE ACCOUNTS. THAT IS THE POLICY THAT THE CITY HAS SET UP BECAUSE IT IS SO MUCH MORE CONVENIENT, RIGHT? I MEAN, IT IS MUCH EASIER FOR THEM TO SAY, HEY, YOU'VE USED YOUR CITY ACCOUNT. UM, THAT'LL BE EASY FOR THEM TO ACCESS THAT INFORMATION AND BE ABLE TO RESPOND. UM, IF BY CHANCE THERE WAS, YOU KNOW, AN EXCEPTION THAT YOU MADE TO THAT RULE, UH, THEN YOU WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR PROVIDING THAT ON YOUR OWN. UH, IF IT CAME FROM SOME OTHER EMAIL SOURCE, UM, CITY EMAIL ACCOUNT. SO EACH OF YOU HAS BEEN ASSIGNED AN EMAIL ACCOUNT TO BE USED TO RECEIVE AND RESPOND TO CITY RELATED BUSINESS, ALL MEETING AGENDAS AND EMAIL CORRESPONDENCE WILL BE SENT TO THIS ADDRESS. ALRIGHT? RECORDS RETENTION. SO GENERALLY THE RECORD RETENTION PERIOD [00:30:01] FOR EMAILS IS AS LONG AS THE RECORDS ARE ADMINISTRATIVELY VALUABLE TO THE ACCOUNT HOLDER. AND THAT'S A VERY VAGUE TERM. UM, AND SO EMAILS THAT ARE NO LONGER OF VALUE TO YOU MAY BE DELETED IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE CITY'S POLICY. EMAIL ACCOUNTS HAVE A 90 DAY AUTO DELETION FUNCTION. SO REMEMBER THAT, THAT'S THE CITY EMAIL ACCOUNT. UM, ANY EMAILS YOU FEEL ARE ADMINISTRATIVELY VALUED TO YOU SHOULD BE MOVED FROM YOUR INBOX INTO A SEPARATE FOLDER FOR RETENTION PURPOSES IF YOU WANNA HOLD ONTO IT LONGER. UM, AND IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, WE CAN, WE CAN ASSIST YOU WITH THE OPERATION OF THE EMAIL. IF YOU'RE NOT USED TO USING THAT, I MEAN, JUST LET US KNOW 'CAUSE WE CAN HELP WITH THAT DIRECTIONS. OKAY? THE WELCOME PACKETS CONTAIN DIRECTIONS ON HOW TO LOG IN THROUGH THE CITY'S OUTLOOK WEB ACCESS LINK, UH, THAT IS THE ADDRESS AS WELL, AND ACCESS YOUR INITIAL PASSWORD. AND THEN IT'S GONNA DIRECT YOU TO IMMEDIATELY CHANGE THAT PASSWORD. 'CAUSE WE DON'T WANT YOU TO LEAVE THE GENERIC ONE, RIGHT? WE WANT YOU TO HAVE GOOD SECURITY. UH, AND IF YOU NEED HELP, UH, CONTACT ANGELA JACKSON. UM, AND HER TELEPHONE NUMBER'S UP HERE, IF YOU WANNA JOT THAT DOWN, SHE IS THE CITY CLERK. UM, AND IF IT'S AFTER HOURS AND YOU'VE GOT AN URGENT MATTER THAT, YOU KNOW, THE, THE EMAIL APPEARS TO BE DOWN, AGAIN, THIS WOULD BE REALLY RARE, BUT YOU HAVE THE OPTION AS WELL AS CONTACTING THE IT DEPARTMENT. UM, AND IF FOR SOME REASON THERE'S NO RESPONSE, THERE IS AN ALTERNATIVE NUMBER, UM, TO REACH. AND THAT WOULD BE AGAIN, UM, IF IT WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS LIKE, HAD TO HAPPEN TONIGHT FOR WHATEVER REASON. UM, SO I'LL GIVE YOU A MINUTE TO, UH, JOT THOSE NUMBERS DOWN THERE. ANYBODY NEED ANY MORE TIME? ONE SEC. OKAY. OKAY. ALL RIGHTY. ANY QUESTIONS? NO. GOOD. I'M JUST KIDDING. . SERIOUSLY THOUGH, GUYS, YOU KNOW THAT WE ARE VERY FLEXIBLE. WE ARE VERY OPEN. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS, YOU CAN ALWAYS REACH OUT TO US AND WE'LL, WE'LL DO WHAT WE CAN. ABSOLUTELY. OKAY. THANK YOU GUYS. OKAY, SO NOW WE'RE GOING TO MOVE TO THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM. THE NEXT ONE IS BUSINESS [a. Discuss participation of the Baytown Police Advisory Committee at the Citizen Appreciation Event to be held at Town Square on November 5, 2022.] ITEMS TO DISCUSS PARTICIPATION OF THE BAYTOWN POLICE ADVISORY COMMITTEE AT THE CITIZEN APPRECIATION EVENT TO BE HELD AT TOWN SQUARE ON NOVEMBER 5TH, 2022. SO I KNOW THAT WE HAD SEVERAL PEOPLE THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, WAS IT RICHARD? MM-HMM . YEAH, MICHAEL. JUNE. JUNE WE HAD TALKED ABOUT MAKING A BANNER AND PRESENTING AND PUTTING A TABLE AND STUFF TOGETHER, BUT WE KIND OF RAN INTO A LITTLE ROADBLOCK WITH, UM, GRAPHIC, WITH A GRAPHIC DESIGN. SO IF WE NEED TO, UM, DO WE HAVE A CONTACT THE CITY USES FOR MAKING BANNERS THAT WE CAN POSSIBLY GO TO AND TELL 'EM OUR IDEA? UM, YOU, YOU CERTAINLY CAN. UH, DO WE HAVE FUNDING FOR THAT AT THIS TIME? NO. OKAY. SO THAT MIGHT BE A QUESTION, UH, THAT WE NEED TO SEEK OUT. UM, AND, UM, AND SEE WHAT WE, WE HAD TALKED ABOUT FUNDING, WE TALKED ABOUT A BUDGET AND WHATEVER HAPPENED WITH THAT, WE TALKED ABOUT, UH, ONE OF THOSE COMMENTS CAME FROM OFFICER O OCON. OCON. I'M SO SORRY HE'S NOT HERE, BUT I'M GLAD. UH, BUT ANYWAY, HE HAD SAID THAT HE THOUGHT HE MIGHT BE ABLE TO TRACK DOWN SOME FUNDING WITH A PERSON THAT HAD HELPED HIM ON SOME OTHER THINGS. UM, HOWEVER, YOU KNOW, HE'S NOT ON THE BOARD AS OF THIS MEETING. UH, AND I HAVE NOT HEARD BACK. HE DID ASK, UH, FOR SURE HE WANTED SOME FEEDBACK IF, IF YOU GUYS DID WANT A TABLE. UM, BUT I KNOW FOR SURE THAT OBVIOUSLY EVEN IF WE WERE ABLE TO GET SOME FUNDING, I DON'T THINK WE COULD GET IT ALL DONE IN TIME FOR THIS. UM, SO I, I WOULD BE HAPPY TO REACH OUT TO HIM AGAIN TO SEE, UM, IF HE WAS ABLE TO CHECK ON THAT. OKAY. UM, OTHERWISE I THINK, YOU KNOW, ONE OF YOU GUYS WOULD NEED TO, UH, SPEAK TO SOMEBODY WITH THE CITY MAYBE, UM, ABOUT SOME POSSIBLE FUNDING. I MEAN, I HONESTLY DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANY FUNDING FOR IT. BUT YOU COULD ASK OUR DEPARTMENT WITH STUDENTS. WE HAVE AN ART DEPARTMENT, BUT WE, WE DO PRINTING THROUGH REFILL. ONE THING ABOUT THE PRINTING, THE ACTUAL SIGN WORK THAT I CAN, I CAN REACH OUT TO, I CAN REACH OUT TO JUST WANNA YEAH. JUST TO SEE, DO SOMETHING FOR THEIR COMMUNITY FOR FREE, [00:35:01] FOR THE APPRECIATION, BECAUSE WE CAN DO A FOUNDATION FOR APPRECIATION. OKAY. I'LL REACH OUT TO, TO MY, OUR DEPARTMENT PERSON AND SEE IF THEY HAVE ANYBODY THAT WOULD BE ABLE TO WILLING TO TALK ABOUT IT AT LEAST. YEAH. OKAY. BUT I'M NOT THE PERSON TO TALK TO. I DON'T KNOW WHAT ART IS. I'LL TALK ABOUT JUNE. YEAH, JUNE. JUNE HAS IT IN HER HEAD. SHE DOES. YEAH. . EXACTLY. BUT WHETHER OR NOT WE ACTUALLY GET A TABLE AND, AND WE WERE TALKING ABOUT BOOTH SPACE TOO, RIGHT? UM, BECAUSE WE DID NOT HAVE THAT DECISION ALREADY. UM, I HAVE NOT RESPONDED TO OFFICER OCON SAY IT RIGHT. AND UH, BUT I, YOU KNOW, LIKE I SAID, HE DID EMAIL ME AND ASK ME. SO I'M HAPPY TO RESPOND. UM, I DON'T KNOW. UH, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY THIS IS Y'ALL'S DECISION ON HOW YOU WANNA PROCEED. UH, IF YOU WANNA PICK CERTAIN PEOPLE THAT WANT TO PARTICIPATE, THEN UM, I COULD MAYBE REACH OUT TO THOSE PARTICULAR INDIVIDUALS. OR IF YOU WANT ME TO, I MEAN, I CAN REACH OUT TO ALL INDIVIDUALS AND LET YOU KNOW WHAT OFFICER O'CONNOR SAYS WHO'S ABLE TO, I'M OUT OF TOWN, I'M ABLE TO PARTICIPATE. OKAY. SO I CAN DO THE SECOND HALF, BUT NOT THE FIRST HALF. WHAT IS THE TIMES AGAIN ON NOVEMBER 5TH? I'M THE WRONG PERSON. I HAVE 11 TO THREE IS WHAT I GO DOWN. 'CAUSE WE HAVE GIRL SCOUT FALL PRODUCT ARRIVING THAT MORNING. SO I COULD PROBABLY TACKLE BOTH AT LEAST TWO TO THREE. DOES THAT MEAN YOU HAVE COOKIES? NO. FALL PRODUCT IS LIKE CHOCOLATE COVERED NUTS. COOKIES ARE VALENTINE'S DAY. OKAY. WE'LL BE WAITING FOR THAT. THAT'S REALLY GOOD TO KNOW. NO, WE GOT IT IN AND THERE WAS A, I DIDN'T KNOW THERE WAS A CYCLE OF THING. IT'S THE RECORD NOW. YEAH. SO JUST REMEMBER VALENTINE'S DAY, YOU'RE IN LOVE WITH GIRL SCOUT COOKIES AND I HAVE A SOURCE. VERY GOOD. I AM THE SOURCE FOR MY TROOP. YOU'D BE SUPPORTING MY BROWNIES. SO DO WE WANT TO, SO IS SOMEONE ABLE TO BE THERE ANY, ANYTIME BETWEEN THOSE 50 HOURS? 11 TO THREE? I CAN EITHER, ANY TIME FOR ALL THE TIME. OKAY. WELL WE HAVE ONE PERSON. OKAY. VERY GOOD. YOU CAN, OKAY. ALRIGHT. IF, IF YOU GUYS DON'T MIND, UM, IF YOU COULD JUST PROVIDE ME YOUR TELEPHONE NUMBER, I THINK IT MIGHT BE EASIER IF YOU JUST WRITE DOWN YOUR NUMBERS FOR ME AND I WILL LET YOU KNOW WHAT OFFICER O'CONNOR SAYS. OKAY. YEAH, BECAUSE WE WON'T HAVE ANOTHER MEETING UNTIL AFTER THAT. I'LL TALK TO STEVE ON A REGULAR BASIS. SO, SO WHAT DO YOU, OKAY, SO WHAT DO WE WANT TO, UM, HAVE? ARE YOU GONNA PASS OUT STUFF? ARE WE GOING TO, WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE? ARE WE JUST GONNA BE AVAILABLE? LIKE WHAT IF WE CAN'T GET A BANNER FAST ENOUGH? SO HOW, WHAT ARE WE THINKING? UM, I CAN PROBABLY GET SOMETHING PRINTED UP EASILY ENOUGH, UH, HAVE ACCESS TO IT. RESOURCES. SO ARE YOU YEAH, YOU DO . YOU DO? THAT'S FUNNY. UM, SO ALL YOU REALLY WOULD NEED IS FOR US JUST TO HAVE A TABLE SPACE, LIKE A BOOTH SPACE, SO TO SPEAK. A TABLE, A TENT AND A TABLE. YEAH. I'VE ACTUALLY GOT A CANOPY. OKAY. THAT'S PROBABLY GOOD BECAUSE I'VE ACTUALLY GOT TABLES CHAIRS. SO I HAVE, I HAVE 13 GRANDCHILDREN, SO. WOW. OKAY. AND THAT IS JUNE 7TH. OH, THANK YOU. SO IT LOOKS LIKE WE HAVE IT COVERED, SO I'M NOT SURE. SURE. IF WE JUST NEED LIKE A SPACE, A MARKING, A DEMARCATION AT THE VERY LEAST, OBVIOUSLY HAVE TO START WITH THAT. OKAY. AND THEN I WILL INQUIRE ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT THOSE TABLES ARE NEEDED AND, UM, AND, AND THE CANOPY. I THINK FOR SURE THEY'LL WANT THE CANOPY. YEAH. I'LL, I'LL TALK TO STEVE WHEN I LEAVE HERE. I'M GONNA GO TO THE BOWL. I'LL SEE 'EM. ALRIGHT. VERY GOOD. THAT IS THE BEST WAY RIGHT THERE. AND I HAD PASSED OUT TO THE GENTLEMAN POSSIBLY A, A SURVEY. THANK YOU. LIKE TWO MEETINGS AGO THAT WE POSSIBLY COULD HAVE PRINTED UP AND, UM, TAKE SURVEYS FROM THE COMMUNITY WHILE WE WERE THERE. YOU REMEMBER THAT POSSIBLE? YEAH. OKAY. UM, UNLESS THERE'S SOMETHING OTHER PEOPLE WANT TO DO OR OUT THERE, UM, I THINK, I THINK GETTING RESPOND WE'RE A LITTLE BIT DID, DID, DID THE, DOES THE CITY HAVE TO APPROVE THE SURVEYS THAT WE'RE PASSING OUT? IT'S, IT'S BASICALLY THE SURVEY THAT'S ON THE BAYTOWN, UH, POLICE WEBSITE. UH, CRITICISMS COMPLAINTS. I JUST KIND OF PRINTED IT. OKAY. A WAY TO FILL IT IN. THAT'S GONNA BE FINE IF IT, IF IT'S UH, IT'S NOT A, IT'S NOT A SCREENSHOT OR ANYTHING, IT'S JUST THE SAME WORDING. OKAY. THAT WAS ON THERE. ALRIGHT. THAT SOUNDS LIKE A PLAN. I THINK THAT'LL WORK. GOOD. THAT'S APPROVED. MM-HMM . OKAY. 'CAUSE I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT PASSING OUT SOMETHING ILLEGALLY. RIGHT. WE, WE AGREED. THAT'S A GOOD, THAT'S A GOOD, WE'RE NOT GIVING THEM SOMETHING TO TAKE HOME. IT WOULD BE SOMETHING THEY WOULD COMPLETE WHILE THEY WERE THERE WITH THIS. RIGHT. RIGHT. SO, SO THOUGHT TO THAT. THEN YOU WANNA MAKE SURE YOU'VE GOT PENCILS OR PINS RIGHT. AND CLIPBOARDS AND UM, AND [00:40:01] THEN IF THEY CAN'T COMPLETE IT THERE, WE'LL GIVE THE POLICE DEPARTMENT WEBSITE TO, THEY CAN COMPLETE IT ONLINE. VERY GOOD. IS THERE A QR CODE THAT YOU COULD PROVIDE THE PEOPLE? NO. OR PEOPLE, THERE'S QR CODE THAT GOES TO, THERE'S NOT BUT I CAN CREATE WHAT THERE IS A QR CODE? YEAH. NO, THEY GOT A TABLE SPACE. THEY GOT A TABLE SPACE. OKAY. WE'VE ALREADY CHECKED WITH THOSE. STEVE, HOW ABOUT THIS, THIS IS WHAT I CALL SERVICE. UH, YOU'VE GOT A BOOTH. YOU'VE GOT A BOOTH. SO THE QUESTION IS DO THEY NEED TABLES? DO THEY NEED THEIR OWN TABLES AND CANOPY OR DOES HE HAVE SOME I'M STILL TEXTING. ALL RIGHT. VERY GOOD. BUT YOU HAVE TO STEVE. OKAY. OKAY. AND, AND SOMEBODY'S GONNA GET US THE POSSIBLE GRAPHIC DESIGNER WITH A, THE EXPENSES FOR A BANNER THAT I CAN CHECK WITH TO GET IT DONE QUICKLY. WELL, WE'RE GONNA, WE'RE GONNA, I AM WILLING TO ASK WHAT O O'CONNOR'S CONNECTION WAS THAT HE WAS TALKING ABOUT BEFORE. OKAY. WE CAN'T COUNT ON THAT. WE DON'T KNOW. AND SO BEYOND THAT, I THINK, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE MEMBERS WOULD PROBABLY NEED TO REACH OUT TO THE CITY. UM, YOU KNOW, MAYBE YOU COULD START WITH THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE AND INQUIRE ABOUT THAT. UM, THAT WOULD BE, THAT WOULD BE WHAT I WOULD SEE AS PROBABLY THE NEXT STEP. AND WITHOUT AN ADOPTION ON THAT. STANDARDIZE AS BEING OURS. I, I CAN GET JUST A BAYTOWN POLICE, YOU KNOW, I GET A BASIC BANNER PRESS THAT WORKS ON IT. IT WILL COME OUTTA HIS BUDGET. WHAT WE ARE. WELL THAT MAY BE THE MEETING I WASN'T AT. OKAY. ALERT. ALERT NEWS UPDATE. APPARENTLY CHIEF STRINGER HAS SAID THAT HE WOULD PAY FOR IT OUT OF HIS BUDGET. HOW ABOUT THAT GUYS? THAT'S OKAY. SO WE STILL NEED A, A GRAPHIC, RIGHT? IT'S ALL ON THE RECORD. I DON'T KNOW. BUT IF WE KNOW, IF WE GO TO WHOEVER MAKES BANNERS, THEY PROBABLY HAVE GRAPHIC DESIGNERS. IT COULD BE. THAT'S A GOOD POINT. BUT WE JUST NEED TO KNOW WHO THE CITY USES TRADITIONALLY FOR GRAPHIC DESIGNS. DO WE KNOW? DO YOU GUYS KNOW THAT? I DON'T KNOW THAT. ISN'T THERE ONE RIGHT OUT IN FRONT OF THE POLICE STATION, LIKE NEXT DOOR? BUT SOMETIMES WE HAVE DEALS OR CONTRACT, SO I'M NOT, I I HONESTLY DON'T KNOW. YEAH, WE WOULD NEED TO FIND OUT WHO THE CITY HAS CONTRACTS WITH TO PROVIDE THAT BECAUSE OTHERWISE IT WOULD BE A, A TOTALLY DIFFERENT WAY TO DO IT. BUT WITHOUT HAVING THE GRAPHIC FORMALIZED, APPROVED AND PRINTED. BECAUSE I CAN GO TO THE PRINTER WITH THE GR WITH MY CRUDE DESIGNS. YEAH. WE GOTTA PAY FOR SOMETHING THAT'S GONNA KEEP THE APPROVED SOURCE. RIGHT. THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING IS IF I HAVE WHO TO GO TO. 'CAUSE THEY PROBABLY HAVE GRAPHIC ARTIST ON STAFF AT THESE BANNER PLACES. YEAH. IT DEPENDS ON HOW THEY, SO ARE WE GONNA ASK OFFICER OCON IF WHETHER OR NOT HE HAS A CONNECTION, IF HE TELLS YOU NO, THEN YOU'RE GONNA LET ONE OF THESE THREE PEOPLE KNOW THAT SO THEN THEY CAN REACH OUT TO SOMEONE IN THE STATE. WELL, WE'LL, WELL THEY'RE SAYING THE CHIEF IS WILLING TO FOOT THAT. RIGHT. BUT, BUT WE NEED TO KNOW WHERE, WHO TO, WHO TO GO, WHO TO GO TO TAKE CARE OF THAT. OKAY. SO WHAT WE'LL DO IS WE'LL HAVE OUR FINANCE PERSON THAT DOES A LOT OF OUR POS THAT DOES. THAT'S, THAT'S IT. THAT'S IT. I WILL GET WITH THEM TOMORROW AND FIND OUT WHO IT IS THAT WE UTILIZE. OKAY. AND I CAN GO, WE CAN REACH OUT, TELL YOU WHO, WHO THAT IS AND YOU CAN LINK UP WITH THEM ABOUT GETTING WHAT THEIR GRAPHIC DESIGN AND PRESENTING YOUR PROPOSAL TO MAKE AN EXTRA EXTRAVAGANT BANNER AND SAY CHARGE IT TO THE POLICE CHIEF. YEAH. LAMINATED IN GOLD. WELL, NO MATTER WHAT IT GOES, YOU HAVE TO GO THROUGH ME TO SIGN ANYHOW. SO WE'RE TALKING LIKE SIX FOOT WHATEVER. I THINK A STANDARD TABLE LINK. THAT'S USUALLY WHAT PEOPLE GET. SIX FOOT. YEAH. OKAY. I'VE GOT SIX FOOT TABLE SO HE, HE CAN GET THE TABLE. HOW MANY CHAIRS DO YOU WANT? TWO OR THREE? THREE. THREE. THREE. PROBABLY FOUR. JUST TO MAKE SURE, JUST IN CASE I CHAIR A PLAN COMES TOGETHER IN YOUR, OKAY, SO WE ARE SQUARED AWAY IN TERMS OF THE BANNER COVERAGE. WHAT WE'RE GONNA PASS OUT, WHAT WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT, I, I DO QUESTION ABOUT WITH ONCE THIS BANNER PROCESS STARTS. SO I'M ABOUT A, YOU'RE GONNA CREATE AN INSIGNIA OF SOME SORT OR GIVE FROM AN IDEA. OKAY. BUT IT WON'T BE ANYTHING THAT'LL VIOLATE THE CITY'S POLICIES. RIGHT. SO IS THERE ANY RESTRICTIONS ON USING THE CITY? UM, UM, I THINK WE DO HAVE TO ASK PERMISSION, BUT I THINK IT WOULD BE EASILY APPROVED. THAT WOULD BE MY OPINION. BUT YES, WE DO NEED TO ASK PERMISSION. OKAY. 'CAUSE WE ARE GONNA PUT THE ARMS CONNECTING AROUND THE CITY INSIGNIA. OH COOL. OKAY. UM, I WOULD SAY THOMAS REEVES IS PROBABLY THE PERSON TO CHECK WITH. HE IS OUR PUBLIC INFORMATION DIRECTOR. IS THAT HIS TITLE? R-E-E-B-E-S? YES. YES. PUBLIC AFFAIRS. PUBLIC PUBLIC AFFAIRS. OKAY. ANYBODY HAPPEN [00:45:01] TO HAVE HIS PHONE NUMBER? WE CAN GET IT THERE THOMAS, IF YOU HAVE. YES. NO, GIVE HIM HIS CELL NUMBER AGAIN. . OH, I'M NOT GONNA DO THAT. LEMME SEE IF I HAVE HIS OFFICE NUMBER. IF NOT, IF YOU CONTACT ME, I'LL GET YOUR, THE OFFICE NUMBER. YEAH, THAT WOULD, I, THAT'S THE PATH I WOULD RECOMMEND IS START WITH THOMAS AND SEE, UM, TELL HIM YOUR IDEAS AND THEN HE CAN TELL YOU WHETHER THERE'S ANY CONCERNS OR NOT. I DOUBT THERE WILL BE, BUT WHO KNOWS. COOL. OKAY. SO DO WE HAVE THAT COVERED? SO, 'CAUSE WE'RE NOT GONNA MEET AGAIN UNTIL AFTER, SO IF THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE, I'M GONNA START ON THE BANNER. I'M GONNA SEND YOU THE SURVEY. OKAY. AND YOU CAN REPRODUCE IT ELECTRONICALLY EASILY. OKAY. WELL I GAVE YOU A COPY, BUT WHO KNOWS WHERE THAT IS? YOU GOT THE TABLE. IT WAS ON PINK PAPER. OH, WELL THEN ITS UH, IN MY FOLDER. SO CALL ME IF YOU DON'T HAVE IT. OKAY. ANYTHING ELSE? GOOD TO GO ON THAT, ON THAT ITEM? I THINK WE'RE GOOD. OKAY. EXCELLENT. SO SINCE THERE'S NOTHING ELSE TO BE SAID ABOUT IT, IT SOUNDS LIKE WE HAVE A GOOD PLAN. THANK YOU. AND I JUST WANNA CLARIFY THAT. IS THE SURVEY THAT YOU'RE DOING, YOU SAID IT'S ON THE PDS WEBSITE? WELL, IT'S, I TOOK THE PDS WEBSITE AND MADE IT SO IT'S PRINTABLE. OKAY. AND SO YOU'RE NOT ALTERNATE IT IN ANY WAY. IT'LL BE EXACTLY WHAT'S ON THE WEBSITE. OKAY. AND THE NEW MEMBERS ARE WELCOME TO JOIN US AT THIS EVENT. IT'S ON THE NOVEMBER THE FIFTH INCIDENT. IS IT SQUARE? YEAH. OKAY. FROM 11 TO THREE. AND IT'S AT THE, UM, THE PARK WITH THE, ON TEXAS WITH THE BIG FOUNTAIN IN IT. TOWN SQUARE. TOWN SQUARE. BE THE OFFICIAL TURF , THE NEW ASTROTURF THEY HAVE NOW. OH WE DO? YEAH. I HAVEN'T GONE OUT THERE SINCE THEY PUT THAT. IS THERE ICE SKATING OUT THERE ANYMORE? NOT YET. THEY'LL BE, YEAH, IN THE WINTER. OH, OKAY. I ASSUME WE'LL DO IT AGAIN THIS YEAR. OKAY. OH, I GOT A GUESS FROM OVER HERE. AND I'VE GOT THOMAS REEVES CONTACTING FROM OH, OH, EXCELLENT. DO YOU MIND SHARING? SURE. AND THEY PROBABLY ALSO HAVE GRAPHIC, DIVINE GRAPHIC DESIGN CAPABILITIES. MM-HMM . ON SOME LEVEL. YEAH. THE, YOU MEAN THOMAS DOES? YEAH. OKAY. PROBABLY. HEY, YOU CAN, SO I SHOULD PROBABLY CALL THIS WORK NUMBER OUT. YEAH, I THINK SO. , I NOW HAVE BOTH , I CALL THE SOUTH. THIS WIFE MIGHT GET JEALOUS. . YEAH. SO OUR CITY CONTRACTOR DOES A LOT OF OURS IS ANCHOR PRINTING. ANCHOR PRINTING. OKAY. IF YOU CAN GIVE 'EM THE ARTWORK, THEY WORK PRETTY FAST, SO MAYBE OKAY. MAYBE YOU'LL HAVE IT IN TIME. YEAH. OKAY. I BETWEEN PATIENTS. THAT'S FINE. YEAH. GET PRETTY, IT COULD LONG LUNCH, . OKAY. ANYTHING ELSE ON THE, UM, BUSINESS ITEM OF OUR CITIZEN APPRECIATION OF IT. ALRIGHT, UH, MOVING NEXT TO THE NEXT, MOVING [a. Receive an update regarding the status of police outreach, community policing, officer training and policies and procedures.] TO THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM. WE HAVE REPORTS RECEIVE AN UPDATE REGARDING THE STATUS OF POLICE OUTREACH, COMMUNITY POLICING, OFFICER TRAINING AND POLICIES AND PROCEDURES. OKAY. SO, UH, CHIEF STRINGER, LIKE I SAID EARLIER, HE'S IN TRAINING, WASN'T ABLE TO MAKE IT, BUT HE WANTED ME TO PASS ALONG A LOT OF THE, UH, IDEAS AND THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN GOING ON, TRAINING AND POLICIES AND SUCH LIKE THAT. SO BEAR WITH ME A LITTLE BIT. SO WE HAVE OUR, UH, POLICIES THAT ALL HAVE BEEN REVIEWED AND READY FOR THE ONSITE FOR THE TEXAS CHIEF OF POLICE BEST PRACTICES THAT WILL BE COMING UP IN NOVEMBER. UM, ALL IS EXPECTED TO GO WELL. WE'VE, UH, ALREADY HAD A PRE REVIEW FROM PANEL COME IN AND LOOK AT OUR POLICIES, BUT THEY'LL COME IN AND CHECK EVERYTHING. THEN FOR OUR RECOGNITION RE RECOGNITION, UM, PROFESSIONAL STANDARDS WILL THEN BEGIN THE PROCESS OF PUBLISHING THE POLICIES ABSENT THOSE THAT ARE SAFETY AND INVESTIGATIVE SENSITIVE BY THE FIRST OF THE YEAR. SO THOSE ARE THE ONES WE ARE TALKING ABOUT PUBLISHING OUT ONTO THE WEBSITE. SO PEOPLE HAVE THE POLICIES AND PROCEDURES OF WHAT WE GO THROUGH. UM, TRAINING, UH, SO LDA, WHICH IS THE LAW ENFORCEMENT EXECUTIVE TRAINING, ALL OF OUR SUPERVISORS HAVE BEEN THROUGH THIS TRAINING NOW WE ARE NOW OFFERING IT TO THE OFFICERS TO DEVELOP FUTURE LEADERS. UM, WE HAVE NEW TASERS THAT HAVE COME IN UPDATING TASERS. THOSE, UH, TASER UPDATES AND TRAINING AND OFFICERS GO THROUGH EVERY YEAR, UH, RE-CERTIFICATION FOR THEIR THESE TASERS AS WELL. UH, WE COMPLETED THE FATS TRAINING FOR ALL DEPARTMENT FOR THE SCENARIO BASED TRAINING THAT HAS BEEN COMPLETED. UH, WE HAD A FTI COURSE FOR OUR NEW FIELD TRAINING INSTRUCTORS. WE HAVE A GROUP OF NEW FIELD TRAINING INSTRUCTORS COMING ON. UM, WE ALSO HAD RECRUITING TRAINING, UH, [00:50:01] BECAUSE THAT'S ONE OF THE BIG THINGS FOR US, RIGHT? IS TRYING TO RECRUIT AND RETAIN. SO, UH, WE HELD THAT, THAT WAS WITHIN THE LAST MONTH, UM, BASIS TO GO OUT THERE AND LOOK FOR CERTIFIED OFFICERS TOO FROM OTHER AGENCIES. SEE IF WE CAN RECRUIT. AND ESPECIALLY WITH THE CITY RAISING OUR PAY HERE, IT'S, IT'S REALLY BEEN BENEFICIAL. IT'S ON THERE. WE HAVE A LOT OF INTEREST TO GO THROUGH WITH THAT. UM, SO FOR COMMUNITY OUTREACH, UH, OF COURSE EVERYONE, YOU SEE THE CUP BOTTLE, THE BURRITO FEST MM-HMM . UH, WE PARTICIPATED IN THAT. BURRITO FEST WAS A SUCCESS. A LOT OF PEOPLE WERE OUT AND ABOUT. UH, I THINK WE GOT A LOT OF GOOD REMARKS FROM CITY COUNCIL AND OTHERS FOR PARTICIPATION IN THAT. UH, NATIONAL NIGHT OUT WAS THIS LAST MONTH THAT WENT THROUGH, WE HAD 14 LOCATIONS. UM, WE HAD 15, BUT ONE OF 'EM THE DAY OF THE EVENT DECIDED THEY WEREN'T GONNA HAVE THEIR LOCATION. BUT WE WENT TO 14 LOCATIONS OF MET AT THE PARTICULAR NEIGHBORHOODS THIS YEAR. UH, COFFEE WITH A COP WAS JUST THIS LAST WEEKEND UP AT THE CHICK-FIL-A AT I 10. UM, WE HAD OUR HISPANIC OUTREACH IS COMING UP OCTOBER THE 25TH. UH, MAY HAVE AN EVENT COMING UP. UH, THAT'S GONNA BE AN E EMMANUEL CHURCH? UH, I BELIEVE SO, YES. 500 EAST JAMES. 500 EAST JAMES. WE HAVE, UH, COMING UP THAT WE WILL BE PARTICIPATING IS, IS THE TRICK OR TREAT ON THE TRAIL THAT PARKS WRECK HOST THAT'S ON THE TRAIL SYSTEM ON OCTOBER THE 28TH. UH, WE'LL HAVE OFFICERS THAT ARE OUT THERE NOT ONLY PROVIDING SECURITY, BUT ALSO OUT THERE FOR THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT WITH THE PUBLIC. UH, OF COURSE Y'ALL ALL, HE HAD THE NOTE ON HERE, BUT YOU HAVE THE CITIZENS' APPRECIATION IS COMING UP NOVEMBER 5TH. SO OF COURSE WE'LL BE OUT THERE. CHIEF WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT, UM, I EXTENDED TO ALL OF Y'ALL AND HIS, HIS INVITATION. HE WOULD LIKE TO, UM, ASK THAT IF ALL BPAC WOULD LIKE TO ASSIST WITH THE WRAPPING PRESENCE FOR BLUE SANTA AND GET TO KNOW OUR OFFICERS IN A LESS FORMAL SETTING. UH, THAT DATE HASN'T BEEN STONE SET YET, BUT IT WILL BE COMING UP PROBABLY IN NOVEMBER, UH, TIMEFRAME. UH, ALL THE OFFICERS ON THEIR OFF TIME AND CITIZENS, WE HAVE A LOT OF CITIZENS THAT PARTICIPATE WRAPPING GIFTS FOR, I THINK LAST YEAR WE DID WHAT ABOUT 400 FAMILIES OR SO SHY, 600 KIDS OR SOMETHING THAT WE WERE ABLE TO PROVIDE CHRISTMAS TO LAST YEAR WITH THE BLUE SANTA PROGRAM. UM, SO IF YOU'RE INTERESTED IN THAT, PLEASE LET US KNOW THAT'S ON THAT. YES MA'AM, I'M INTERESTED. OKAY. OKAY. WILL YOU SEND US AN EMAIL SO THAT WE CAN SURE, THAT'S FINE. BACK YEAH. WHEN WE GET THE DATE, WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT YOU'RE, YOU'RE AWARE OF WHAT THE DATE, THE LOCATION IS USUALLY ON. UH, WIDE DRIVE OVER AT THE OLD NATIONAL GUARD BUILDING THAT IS NOW OWNED BY FRANK'S COLLISION. OH REALLY? IT'S OVER THERE. HE, HE ALLOWS US TO UTILIZE THAT. HE HAS A BIG FLOOR SPACE AND EVERYBODY GRABS WRAPPING PAPER AND TOYS SITS ON THE FLOOR. YOU MIGHT BRING A CUSHION TO SIT ON OR SOMETHING. OR IF YOU HAVE A CHAIR AND A TABLE, THEY DO HAVE SOME TABLES. BUT I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S A GOOD EVENT WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, OF COURSE BLUE SANTA COMES THROUGH AND A LOT OF CHRISTMAS MUSIC PLAYING AND IT'S A GOOD AND WE FEED YOU. SO IT'S A GOOD, IN THAT CASE, . UM, JUST AN UPDATE ON MENTAL HEALTH. SO, UH, HERE'S SOME STATS THAT HAVE GONE BACK ALL THE WAY TO AUGUST TO CURRENT DATE. SO IN AUGUST WE RESPONDED TO 34 MENTAL HEALTH CALLS, 22 RESULTING IN EMERGENCY DETENTION ORDERS BEING FILED. UH, SEPTEMBER RESPONDED TO 38 MENTAL HEALTH CALLS, 24 RESULTING IN EMERGENCY DETENTION ORDER, UH, OCTOBER TO DATE, UH, THAT WENT IN. WE'VE RESPONDED TO 21 MENTAL HEALTH CALLS, 11 RESULTING IN EDS BEING FILED. AND THEN THE CORD DEPLOYMENTS ARE IPAD THAT WE HAVE WITH HARRIS HEALTH AND HARRIS COUNTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT THAT WE'RE WITH, WE UTILIZED, WE HAD SEVEN IN AUGUST WITH ONE RESULTING IN AN EDO AND THEN FOUR IN SEPTEMBER WITH TWO RESULTING IN EDO. SO, UH, WE, HARRIS COUNTY KEEPS THOSE NUMBERS. THEY'RE NOT ABLE TO GET US THE OCTOBER NUMBERS THAT WE'RE IN RIGHT NOW. SO CHIEF WILL HAVE TO REPORT ON THE OCTOBER NUMBERS. IT'S YOUR NEXT MEETING THAT GOES THROUGH. UM, AND THEN THE LAST BIT THAT HE WANTED ME TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU'RE AWARE OF, THAT HE'S BEEN RESEARCHING GRANTS FOR A CIVILIAN CITIZEN MENTAL HEALTH [00:55:01] ADVOCATE THAT WOULD WORK FOR FOLLOW UP WITH MENTAL HEALTH CONSUMERS LIKE WE DO WITH OUR CRIME VICTIMS. SO WE'RE ACTIVELY, HE WANTS TO LOOK AT GRANTS FOR THAT TYPE OF POSITION. THAT WOULD BE A CIVILIAN, UH, BASICALLY THAT'S TRAINED WITHIN THE MENTAL HEALTH FIELD. UM, TO HELP WITH THAT, IF YOU'RE NOT AWARE OF OUR CRIME VICTIMS UNIT, WE DO HAVE TWO CIVILIANS. WE'VE HAD THAT PROGRAM FOR 20 PLUS YEARS THAT GOES INTO PLAY. UH, THEY PROVIDE A GREAT SERVICE NOT ONLY TO CRIME VICTIMS, UH, BUT THEY HELP WITH U VISAS AND SUCH THAT GO THROUGH, UM, AND DOMESTIC VIOLENCE. UM, THAT YOU, IF YOU WALKED INTO THE LOBBY TODAY, YOU SAW THE DOMESTIC VIOLENCE TABLE THAT WAS SET UP THAT THROUGH OUR CRIME VICTIMS UNIT THAT'S, UH, AT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. SO THAT WAS ONE OF THEIR WAYS TOO THAT WE'RE REACHING OUT TO THE COMMUNITY TO MAKE, MAKE EVERYONE AWARE OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE MONTH, WHICH IS THIS MONTH. UH, GO THROUGH, WE HAVE A LOT OF POSTERS DISPLAYED AT THE PD, UH, ALONG WITH ON THE OUTSIDE WALLS, EXPLAINING THE SITUATIONS AND STUFF AND MAKING THEM AWARE. SO RECOGNIZE QUESTIONS. RIGHT. OKAY. UM, EEDS, WHAT IS THAT? TELL ME WHAT AN EMERGENCY DETENTION ORDER. DETENTION ORDER. YEAH. WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? SO BASICALLY THAT'S WHERE IF A PERSON CAN INVOLUNTARY OR VOLUNTARILY COMMIT THEMSELF, OR IF THEY DON'T VOLUNTARILY COMMIT THEMSELF AND THEN WE CONTACT THE HOSPITAL, WE TAKE 'EM TO A HOSPITAL AND A PSYCH DECIDES DOCTOR WHO'S EVALUATING 'EM SAYS THEY NEED TREATMENT, THEN WE HAVE TO DO IT THROUGH AN EMERGENCY DETENTION ORDER WHEN IT'S . OKAY. SO THAT'S AN INVOLUNTARY COMMITMENT. RIGHT. SO, SO LIKE SOME OF THESE OTHER ONES THAT EVEN WHEN YOU HAVE SOME OF THESE MENTAL HEALTH CALLS AND WE SAY 34 22, THERE COULD HAVE BEEN SOME ON THE OTHER SIDE THAT WERE VOLUNTARY COMMITMENTS THAT THEY WENT AHEAD AND VOLUNTARILY. SO THE 30, SO 22, YOU ESSENTIALLY HAD TO INVOLUNTARILY COMMIT. YES. WE, WE HAVE TO CONTACT THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AND GET AN EMERGENCY DETENTION ORDER, UH, THAT GOES THROUGH THAT THROUGH THE COURT IN ORDER TO HOLD THAT PERSON FOR THEIR TREATMENT AFTER THEY'VE BEEN EVALUATED FOR AND THEY'RE GOING TO SAN JACINTO, THEY'RE GOING TO METHODIST. IT DEPENDS, IT DEPENDS ON WHICH ONE IT IS. IT DEPENDS ON HOW SEVERE OR IF METHODIST HAS A DIVERSION IN PLACE AND DOESN'T HAVE ANY FACILITIES OR BEDS PRESENT, THEN WE HAVE TO GO DOWNTOWN OR OTHER LOCATIONS THAT HAS A MENTAL HEALTH FACILITY. THEY FREQUENTLY GET FULL. YEAH, I'M SURE. AND THEY, THEY HAVE TO DIVERT AND UM, SO ESPECIALLY AS A COUNTY, IT'S UNFORTUNATE, BUT YEAH, IT'S A REALITY. UM, I WANNA MAKE A COMMENT. SO YOU'RE RECRUITMENT. SO I DO, I WORK WITH HOMELAND SECURITY THROUGH MICROSOFT DOING CYBERSECURITY THINGS. AND I WORK WITH A LOT OF FORT BEND, BRAZORIA, UM, MONTGOMERY COUNTY, A LOT OF THOSE AND THE LOCAL CITY MUNICIPALITIES. AND I CAN TELL YOU THAT WHEN I GO UP AND DO MY INTRODUCTION AND THEY SEE THAT I'M FROM BAYTOWN, THEY SAY, HEY, I SEE YOU GUYS ARE HIRING AND I I YOUR PACKAGE LOOKS REALLY GOOD. SO YOU'RE GETTING A LOT OF RECOGNITION OUT THERE. SO, UM, KEEP THAT UP AND, AND UH, I ASK 'EM HOW DO THEY FIND OUT? HE SAID GENERALLY SOMEBODY FORWARDED TO HIM ON FACEBOOK. SO KEEP THAT, THAT SOCIAL MEDIA POSTING UP AND PUTTING IT OUT THERE. 'CAUSE WE'RE BEING RECOGNIZED AS FOR THE, UH, THE, THE BENEFITS TO MOVING OVER FROM ENLIST FROM CURRENT OFFICERS. VERY HIGHLY ANTICIPATED BY A LOT OF PEOPLE. SO I'M HOPING THAT THAT DRIVES SOME RECRUITMENT THAT WAY. THANK YOU. AND, AND ONE OF THE THINGS, WE GOT AN UPDATE FROM OUR HR THAT GOES IN THAT WE'VE HAD, WE'RE LOOKING AT OPENING UP FOR THE, UM, OFFICERS BASICALLY NOT DOING A NEW BASIC POLICE ACADEMY, A TEST CIVIL SERVICE TEST. WE'RE WORKING WITH HR ON WAYS THAT WE CAN, UM, GET CERTIFIED OFFICERS FROM OTHER AGENCIES WITHOUT HAVING TO DO OUR CERTIFIED TEST. UH, WE'RE STILL WORKING WITH HR ON THAT, BUT JUST IN RECORD, THEY HAVE BASICALLY RECEIVED 160 SO FAR READY TO DO IT, MOVE IT AS SOON AS IT THAT'S DONE. UM, SO, YOU KNOW, OF COURSE THEY'LL GO THROUGH THE BACKGROUND, DO ALL THE OTHER STUFF, JUST LIKE THE CERTIFIED, BUT JUST LOOKING AT THE CIVIL SERVICE TEST THAT WE COULD NOT DO THAT FOR THE CERTIFIED OFFICERS. NOW SOMEONE WHO'S NOT A CERTIFIED POLICE OFFICER STILL TAKES CIVIL SERVICE TEST, GOES THROUGH. THE ONLY DOWNSIDE I'VE HEARD FROM UNIVERSALLY, AND THE ONLY NEGATIVE ANYBODY POINTS OUT IS BAYTOWN STILL HAS THE NO FAMILY RULE HAS WHAT? NO FAMILY. CORRECT. AND THAT THAT'S NOT IN MOST OTHER JURISDICTIONS, THEY DON'T DO THAT. SO THAT THERE'S, I DEAL WITH A LOT OF HUSBAND AND WIVES AND I'M DEALING WITH THE SENIOR PEOPLE IN THE ORGANIZATIONS, RIGHT. AND THEY'LL SAY, YOU KNOW, WELL MY WIFE AND I, WE WE WOULD DO THAT, BUT TWO REASONS. ONE, THEY'RE SENIOR WHERE THEY ARE TWO, THEY CAN'T BOTH WORK HERE. SO I DON'T KNOW IF THE CITY IS EVER BOTH HIS OFFICERS. [01:00:01] YEAH, YEAH, EXACTLY. SO I DON'T KNOW IF THE CITY WOULD EVER LOOK AT RECONSIDERING THAT RULE, BUT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT COUNCIL CAN TAKE, SHARE THAT INFORMATION. HOW MANY OPEN POSITIONS ARE THERE? WE CURRENT STAFF RIGHT NOW IS 1 59, BUT WE HAVE A FEW RETIREMENTS AT THE END OF THIS MONTH. WE HAVE A FEW OF OUR SENIOR OFFICERS THAT ARE RETIRING, SERGEANTS, LIEUTENANTS, UH, THAT ARE RETIRING. SO WE HAVE, UM, OF COURSE WE'RE ALLOTTED TO 1 75 RIGHT NOW. SO WE HAVE 16 POSITIONS STILL VACANT. UH, WE DO HAVE TWO OFFICERS WHO LEFT, WENT TO THE PRIVATE SECTOR, DIDN'T THINK PRIVATE SECTOR MADE OUT TO WHAT THEY WANTED IT TO BE. AND SO THEY HAD PUT IN AND COME BACK. SO, UM, THOSE OFFICERS HAVE, YOU KNOW, GONE BACK THROUGH THE PROCESS. ONE OF 'EM IS STILL WAITING, UH, SHOULD BE FINALIZED. THE OTHER ONE IS BACK TO WORK, BUT UH, THAT WAS IN PLACE. SO THE BENEFITS AND PACKAGE THAT THE CITY IS PUTTING OUT THERE IS ATTRACTIVE, IS IT'S VERY ATTRACTIVE. AND WE HAVE A LOT OF AGENCIES, OFFICERS AND SUCH THAT ARE REACHING OUT, CONTACTING US, BUT OUR RECRUITMENT EFFORTS ARE EXTENDING THROUGHOUT THE STATE, NATIONALLY. UM, AS MUCH PUBLICITY WE CAN GET OUT THERE IN ORDER TO ATTRACT AND ATTAIN, RETAIN A LOT OF THESE OFFICERS THAT WE NEED TO HAVE HERE. SO THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE IT. THERE IS ONE CORRECTION THAT TREATS ON THE TRAILS. THE 29TH, I THINK YOU SAID THE 28TH. I DID. IT'S THE 29TH. 29TH. IT'S A SATURDAY. YEAH. ONE DAY. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I'M NOT GONNA, NEXT TIME I'LL GET YOU BECAUSE I ALWAYS MAKE SURE I ASK YOU TONS OF QUESTIONS, BUT I HAD A REALLY GOOD ONE THIS TIME. OH, . ANYBODY ELSE? FOREVER HOLD A PEACE. OKAY. IF NOT, UH, WE'RE GOING TO THE NEXT [a. Consider setting date, time and location for the next Baytown Police Advisory Committee meeting, along with any related tasks and processes to include, but not limited to: Discuss conducting a teambuilding exercise with the members of the Baytown Police Advisory Committee to review the committee's purpose and buckets of concern.] ITEM ON THE AGENDA, WHICH IS SETTING THE NEXT MEETING. SO CONSIDERING SETTING DATE, TIME, AND LOCATION FOR THE NEXT BAYTOWN POLICE ADVISORY COMMITTEE MEETING ALONG WITH ANY RELATED TASKS AND PROCESSES TO INCLUDE, BUT NOT LIMITED TO DISCUSS CONDUCTING A TEAM BUILDING EXERCISE WITH THE MEMBERS OF THE BAYTOWN POLICE ADVISORY COMMITTEE TO REVIEW THE COMMITTEE'S PURPOSE AND BUCKETS OF CONCERN. SO FOR OUR NEW MEMBERS, ESSENTIALLY WHEN WE FIRST, WHEN IT WAS FIRST CREATED TWO YEARS AGO, WE ALL MET AT THE LIBRARY IN THEIR SPACE BACK THERE, WHICH I DIDN'T KNOW IT WAS THERE BEEN A LONG TIME SINCE THE LAST TIME I'VE GOT, BUT THEY REVISED IT AND WE HAD TO. UM, AND SO WE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO WORK WITH SOME FACILITATORS WHO HELPED US DETERMINE BUCKETS OF CONCERNS THAT WE COULD DISCUSS AS A COMMITTEE AND WORK WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT FOR JUST, YOU KNOW, JUST AS AN ADVISORY. RIGHT. AND SO WE DEFINITELY WANNA GO BACK TO THOSE BUCKETS AND MAYBE LOOK AT SOME ADDITIONAL BUCKETS OR OTHER AREAS THAT WE MAY HAVE MISSED. WHAT WE HAVE ALREADY CHECKED OFF OUR LIST AND WHAT, WHERE WE WANNA MOVE FORWARD. UM, ESPECIALLY WITH NEW TWO NEW FACES. UM, DO WE HAVE ANOTHER NEW FACE THAT'S COMING OR IS IT JUST WE HAVE A VACANCY. TWO. YEAH, VACANCY AND TWO OTHER PEOPLE. YES. AND TWO OTHERS. BUT THERE WAS ONE VACANCY. AND THEN WHO'S MISSING TONIGHT? MS. ATHENA GREEN AND RODNEY HERE. RODNEY CORNELL. RODNEY'S NOT HERE. IS HE, HE'S NOT ON THERE ANYMORE. IS HE? HE STILL, I'M SO SORRY. THAT'S, YEAH, HE SHOULD BE WITH US PROBABLY FOR ONE MORE YEAR. I THOUGHT HE WAS GONNA BE THIS FOR ONE MORE YEAR. JUST BECAUSE I THOUGHT HE TOOK, UM, THE ONE THAT'S OVER UNIDOS. YES. OKAY. AND THEN, SO THEN ATHENA GREEN, IS SHE VACANT OR IS SHE NO, SHE, SHE'S JUST BEEN UNABLE TO MEET THE TIME PERIOD THAT YOU ALL HAVE THE MEETING. OKAY. SO, SO DO WE HAVE A VACANCY? YES. UH, DISTRICT FIVE, ERIC BAUMBACHER. OKAY. WE HAVE TO REPLACE HIM. OKAY, PERFECT. SO DO WE WANT TO ENTERTAIN TALKING ABOUT AT THE NEXT MEETING, PICKING A DIFFERENT DAY AND TIME WORKING WITH THE CITY TO FIND A DIFFERENT DAY AND TIME? I DIDN'T HEAR WHAT YOU SAID. I WAS SAYING SHOULD WE, DO WE WANT TO PUT ON THE AGENDA TO DISCUSS A DIFFERENT DAY AND TIME FOR THE MEETING TO FACILITATE OTHERS THAT ARE HAVING DIFFICULT? SO, OKAY. YEAH, WE CAN PUT IT ON THE, WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT NEXT TIME FOR SURE. JUST DISCUSS IT. YES. UM, WHEN, WHEN WE DO TALK ABOUT THIS, UH, TEAM BUILDING EXERCISE, UM, I THINK THE IDEAL SITUATION IS GOING TO BE YOU GUYS COMING UP WITH THREE POSSIBLE DATES FOR THAT. UM, SO THAT THE CITY STAFF THAT'S GONNA WORK WITH YOU ON IT, UH, THEY WOULD, YOU KNOW, THEY CAN WORK WITH THEIR SCHEDULE TOO, RIGHT? SO, UM, THAT'S JUST SOMETHING I WOULD RECOMMEND, UM, THAT YOU DO TO ACCOMMODATE THE, THE CALENDAR. SO WHEN IS THE NEXT TIME FOR US TO HAVE, UM, A VPAC MEETING? EITHER THE 15TH [01:05:01] OR THE 22ND? THE 22ND IS THANKSGIVING WEEK. OKAY. SO THE 15TH. THEN BE THE 15TH OR SKIP NOVEMBER. OR DO THE BUCKETS IN NOVEMBER. ASSUMING THAT THEY HAVE, IF THEY CAN, UH, BOOK THE FACILITATORS. 'CAUSE WE WANNA USE THE, THAT MIGHT BE A TIGHT TIMELINE TO GET FACILITATORS BECAUSE I WAS THINKING WE COULD PROBABLY DO THE FACILITATORS IN DECEMBER LIKE WE DID THE FIRST TIME. MM-HMM . WHAT DO Y'ALL THINK? YEAH, I THINK NOVEMBER MEETING WE SHOULD HAVE A MEETING AND, AND DISCUSS THE THINGS THAT WE NEED TO GET OUT THERE. AND THEN PLAN FOR THE, GET SOME DECEMBER DATES FOR THE, UH, FACILITATORS. WE OKAY. 22ND AS A SPECIAL COUNSEL. WE HAVE A SPECIAL, SPECIAL COUNCIL MEETING ON THE 22ND. THAT WAS GONNA BE MY NEXT QUESTION, THE COUNCIL MEETING THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO PRESENT. PRESENT. I DON'T THINK WE DON'T. OH, THAT WOULD BE JANUARY. THEY DON'T WANNA DO THE 22ND ANYWAY. AND I WAS GONNA SAY, AND THAT'S THANKSGIVING. YEAH. SO THAT'S DIFFICULT. SO CAN WE DO NOVEMBER 15TH OR THE 29TH? UM, YOU CAN PE THIS UP TO YOU GUYS. 15TH. WE'LL BE HERE. NEITHER ONE OF US WILL BE HERE. THE 29TH. 15TH. THE WEEK BEFORE. THEY SAID THE 29TH. NO, I SAID THE 15TH OR THE 29TH. AND THEN OVER HERE WE SAID, OKAY, LET'S JUST DO THE 15TH. OKAY. ARE YOU GONNA BE HERE? YES. OKAY. 15TH. GOOD FOR YOU. YES. 15TH. GOOD FOR YOU. SHOULD BE. ALRIGHT. SHE ABOUT TO MAKE THAT. THANK YOU. IF, IF WE TELL YOU IN, IN UP FEW MINUTES. RIGHT. BUT TYPICALLY WE HAVE IT ON THAT FOURTH THURSDAY. THE FOURTH TUESDAY. TUESDAY OF THE MONTH. IT'S NOT THIS MONTH. NOT NEXT MONTH, NOT THIS MONTH. THE NEXT MONTH. AND WE MOVED IT TODAY. WE WOULD'VE HAD IT NEXT TUESDAY. BUT, UM, RENEE'S HAVING UNIDOS RIGHT. WHICH I'M ALSO PART OF. RIGHT. AND SO WE, WE DIDN'T, WE WANTED TO BE ABLE TO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO GO AS A COMMITTEE TO SUPPORT HIM. AND SO THAT'S WHY WE MOVED IT UP A WEEK. SO. GREAT. SO JUST SO YOU UNDERSTAND WHY WE'RE UP A WEEK. AND SO THAT LOOKS LIKE THEN BECAUSE OF THANKSGIVING, WE'RE GONNA BE UP A WEEK AGAIN. SO WE'RE LOOKING AT NOVEMBER. SO ALL THOSE IN FAVOR FOR VOTING NOVEMBER 15TH FOR OUR NEXT BPAC MEETING. SAY AYE. AYE. THERE'S A CALL COMING IN WITH AN OPPOSITION, A LITTLE WRITER SO I KNOW BAD. THANK YOU. GEORGE LOPEZ IS WHAT I THINK OF WHEN I HEAR THAT. I DON'T, OKAY, SO 1115 IS GONNA BE OUR NEXT BPAC MEETING. 6:00 PM WHEREVER SHE SAYS WE'RE GONNA BE, UH, HER RAQUEL BECAUSE OF THE BOSSES. AND THEN THE DATES IS WHAT WE NEED TO GIVE YOU. SO IF WE LOOK AT DECEMBER, THAT WOULD PUT US AT, I'M OKAY WITH CONSIDERING THE 13TH, THE 20TH, THE 13TH OR THE 20TH IS TWO POSSIBLE DATES IN DECEMBER TO DO THE TEAM BUILDING. WELL, DON'T JUST TAKE TWO A, TWO Z EITHER WE CAN, WE COULD PICK, I MEAN FOR THAT IT JUST DEPENDS IF THERE'S ONE, I HAVE FOUR TICKETS ON THE 13TH AND I WAS GONNA SAY, YOU DON'T HAVE TO HAVE IT IN DECEMBER. YOU CAN HAVE IT IN JANUARY IF YOU WANT. I MEAN I PREFER IT IN DECEMBER. SO WE CAN START THE YEAR FRESH AND MOVE FORWARD. IT JUST AS AN OPTION. BUT, AND IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT DOING IT WITH STEADY STAFF, YOU GOTTA REMEMBER THAT'S WHEN A LOT OF PEOPLE WILL TAKE VACATION TIMES DOING THAT. THAT 20TH. THAT 20TH. OKAY. SO HOW DOES IT LOOK FOR THE WEEK OF WELL, BECAUSE THE 20TH IS RIGHT BEFORE UH, CHRISTMAS. YES. YEAH. 'CAUSE THE COLLEGE IS ALREADY CLOSED. OKAY. UM, 27TH IS AFTER CHRISTMAS, BUT PEOPLE ARE GONE. YEAH. I MAY TAKE A VACATION. YEAH. BETWEEN CHRISTMAS AND THE YEAR, NOBODY WANTS TO GET TOGETHER AND DO THINGS AND WORK. A LOT OF PEOPLE LIVE VACATION. SO WHAT DOES IT LOOK LIKE FOR CONSIDERATION ANYTIME MONDAY THROUGH THAT THURSDAY ON THE WEEK OF DECEMBER 12TH BOOKED EXCEPT FOR WEDNESDAY. WE HAVE TO CHECK WITH STAFF AND SEE WHAT THEIR SCHEDULE IS. I MEAN, WE CAN HAVE A MEETING. WE JUST DON'T KNOW IF WE ARE GONNA HAVE THE OTHER, SAY THEY HAVE TO LOOK AT STAFF. WE HAVE TO CHECK WITH STAFF. THE ACTUAL TEAM BUILDING EXERCISE. I MEAN YOU CAN ALWAYS SCHEDULE THE MEETING, BUT NO, NO, NO. I WOULD WANT, I WAS WANTING TO SUGGEST THAT WE WOULD HAVE THE, FOR I'M TRYING TO GIVE Y'ALL DATES TO GO BACK TO THEM AND TO TELL US WHICH ONE. SO THAT'S WHY I SAY WE'RE GONNA CHECK WITH STAFF TO SEE WHAT THEIR AVAILABILITY IS. YEAH. SO, SO THAT WEEK, ANYTIME THAT WEEK, I'M NOT GOOD ON A LOT OF THE DAYS, BUT THAT BE SUNDAY. UM, BASKETBALL TICKETS. SO YOU PREFER WEDNESDAY, YOU SAID IF POSSIBLE, WEDNESDAY OR FRIDAY. OR SUNDAY. WEDNESDAY THE 14TH. HOW DOES WEDNESDAY THE 14TH LOOK FOR Y'ALL? YOU WANNA HAVE THE 16TH AS AN ALTERNATIVE? [01:10:01] A PARTY NIGHT FRIDAY? YEAH. THAT WE DECEMBER. YES MA'AM. WE TRY TO PLAN WAY AHEAD. . WE COULD BRING CHIPS AND DIP. MAKE A HOLIDAY PARTY. . AS LONG AS I GET THE CALENDAR, I LIKE. OKAY. CALCULATE EVERYTHING MS. THOMAS, HOW'S IT LOOK? HOW'S IT LOOKING FOR YOU? SO FAR SO GOOD. AS LONG AS WE GIVE YOU ADVANCED NOTICE. OKAY. PERFECT. AND THEN WE COULD JUST HOPE THAT THESE TWO WOULD BE ABLE TRY THOSE TWO. NUMBER ONE CHOICE WOULD BE THE 14TH AND THEN NUMBER TWO CHOICE IS THE 16TH. AND WE'LL SEE. OKAY. OKAY. SO THEN WE'RE LOOKING AT FOR DISCUSSION, THE, THE DATES FOR TEAM BUILDING EXERCISE WITH THE MEMBERS OF US AS WELL AS THE FACILITATORS. THE WEEK OF OR THE 16TH. DECEMBER 16TH. RIGHT. OR DECEMBER 14TH. THOSE ARE THE TWO DATES THAT YOU'RE GONNA PROPOSE. AND THEN YOU'LL BE ABLE TO TELL US THE NEXT MEETING ON WHETHER OR NOT WE'RE ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD. YES. WE SHOULD KNOW. YEAH. THAT BE DURING THE DAY OR I THINK YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE SIX O'CLOCK TIME. YES. BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE IN LIEU OF A MEETING. THE MEETING. EXACTLY. I DON'T KNOW IF, DOES THE LIBRARY CLOSE? IT WOULDN'T MATTER. BUT DOES THE LIBRARY CLOSE EARLY ON FRIDAYS? SHE NORMALLY STAYS IF SHE'S HAVING THIS FUNCTION. GOTCHA. LAST TIME. SHE'S FINE. IT'S JUST THAT WE GOTTA JUST CHECK HER AVAILABILITY. I KNOW IT'S CLOSE TO THE HOLIDAYS. ABSOLUTELY, WE WILL. THAT'S MY ONLY CONCERN. OKAY. AND SO I DON'T SEE ANYTHING HERE ABOUT NEW ITEMS. SO WE'RE, BUT WE'RE GOING TO ADD THE DISCUSSION OF WHEN ARE TIMES FOR NEXT MEETING. WE'RE GONNA HAVE IT RIGHT NOW, RIGHT? YEAH, YEAH. YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IF WE'RE GONNA MOVE THE, THE DATES AT TIMES THAT WE'RE GONNA MEET MOVING FORWARD FOR THE OH, OH YEAH. YEAH. YOU JUST SAID THAT RIGHT? YOU SAID NEXT MEETING WE WANNA, WE'RE GONNA ADD A DISCUSSION ITEM TO THE NEXT MEETING TO TALK ABOUT WHETHER WE MOVE THE MEETING FROM TUESDAYS TO POSSIBLY ANOTHER DAY. OKAY. SO I'M GONNA ADD THAT ON THE AGENDA. OKAY. FOR NEXT TIME. YES. JUST TO AGENDA ITEM TO TALK ABOUT. PROBABLY TO TAKE BACK JANUARY THE EARLIEST. AND THEN I WOULD ALSO WANNA ADD REVIEW OF PREVIOUS BUCKETS OF CONCERN WITH OUR NEW MEMBERS TO, TO JUST BRING THEM UP TO SPEED. 'CAUSE I DON'T EVEN THINK MICHAEL HAS THOSE AND SO THAT THEY'RE AWARE OF THE MOVEMENT OF THE COMMITTEE FOR THE PAST TWO YEARS. AND SO THAT THEY HAVE A FRAME OF REFERENCE. SO WHEN WE GO MEET WITH THE FACILITATORS, THEY'RE NOT LIKE, WAIT, WHAT JUST HAPPENED? OR HAVE WE DONE THAT? THEY'RE ALREADY UP TO SPEED AND THEY CAN ASK QUESTIONS. IS THAT, IS THAT OKAY? GREAT. GONNA BE GOOD. DOES THAT HELP? SO I HAVE TO GO BACK OVER HERE. ADJOURN. SO B, THAT THE COMMITTEE HAS ADDRESSED, ALL POSTED I AGENDA ITEMS, I WILL NOW ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ADJOURN. YOU GOT IT? OOH, MICHAEL HAS IT FIRST. THINK I HAVE A SECOND. . ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? ANY NAY. AND THEN DO I HIT THE GAVEL? * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.