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FIVE OH ONE AND I WILL CALL THE MEETING OF
[1. CALL TO ORDER AND ROLL CALL]
THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION FOR TUESDAY, OCTOBER THE 18TH TO ORDER AND ASK KNIGHT TO CALL THE ROLE.OUR FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS IS TO REVIEW THE MINUTES, MADAM CHAIR, WHEN WE HAVE A CHANGE TO THE AGENDA TONIGHT.
[c. Conduct a public hearing and consider a request to amend the official zoning map to rezone approximately 28.05 acres, located generally south of East Interstate Highway 10 between Crosby Cedar Bayou Road and Sjolander Road from an Open Space/Recreation (OR) to a General Commercial (GC) district.]
THE APPLICANT HAS WITHDRAWN, SO WE'D LIKE TO REMOVE THAT FROM THE AGENDA.DO WE NEED TO THAT? THANK YOU.
SO THERE'S ANYONE HERE WHO WANTED TO ADDRESS FOR C IT HAS BEEN WITHDRAWN THAT WE'LL MOVE FORWARD WITH THE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES.
[a. Consider approving the meeting minutes of the September 20, 2022, Planning and Zoning Commission regular meeting.]
I MOVE MOTION FOR MITCHELL.ALL IN FAVOR PLEASE INDICATE BY SAYING AYE.
UH, WE HAVE THREE PLATS THAT WANT ME TO GO OVER THOSE QUICKLY OR JUST THESE ARE BEING PRESENTED BY STAFF ONE AT A TIME.
UM, YOU'RE THINKING OF THE, THE, UM, OKAY.
[a. Consider approving Ameriport Business Park Street Dedication Preliminary Plat, being approximately 7.42 acres located on the east corner of FM 2354 Road and South FM 565 Road.]
CONSIDER APPROVING AMERICORP BUSINESS PARK STREET, DEDICATION.PRELIMINARY PLAT BEING APPROXIMATELY 7.42 ACRES LOCATED ON THE EAST CORNER, F FM 2354 ROAD AND SOUTH FM 5 65 ROAD.
MY NAME'S TRISTAN LYONS, ONE OF THE PLANNERS OF CITY BAYTOWN.
SO AMERICORP, THIS IS THIS, THE FIRST TWO PLATS ARE WITH AMERICORP BUSINESS PARK.
SO THIS FIRST ONE IS A STREET DEDICATION AND WHICH THEY ARE DEDICATING A HUNDRED FOOT RIDE OF WAY OF APPROXIMATELY 860 FEET LOCATED GENERALLY EAST OF THE INTERSECTION OF FM 5 65 AND FM 2354.
ANYONE HAVE QUESTIONS OR TRISTAN, I HEAR A MOTION TO APPROVE MOVE FOR APPROVAL.
PLEASE INDICATE BY SAYING AYE.
[b. Consider approving Ameriport Business Park Section Three Preliminary Plat, being approximately 51.32 acres located on the east corner of FM2354 Road and South FM 565.]
B, CONSIDER APPROVING AMERICORP BUSINESS PARK SECTION THREE.PRELIMINARY PLAT BEING APPROXIMATELY 51.32 ACRES LOCATED ON THE EAST CORNER OF FM 2354 ROAD AND SOUTH FM 5 65.
SO JUST LIKE THE PREVIOUS PLAT, THIS IS ALSO INCLUDED WITH THE AMERICORP BUSINESS PARK AND THIS IS GONNA BE SECTION THREE OF IT.
UH, IF YOU SEE YOUR MOUSE RIGHT HERE, THE PRE THE FIRST PLAT WE REVIEWED IS ACTUALLY DIRECTLY ADJACENT TO THIS PLAT ABOUT GENERALLY LOCATED RIGHT HERE.
AND IT IS THEY ARE CREATING A SINGLE LOT FOR THE DEVELOPMENT.
UH, STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL.
ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSIONERS? I MOVE FOR APPROVAL.
I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO APPROVE.
ALL IN FAVOR PLEASE INDICATE BY SAYING AYE.
THOSE OPPOSED LIKE SECOND, UH, THREE C.
[c. Consider approving Thompson Road Business Park Preliminary Plat, being approximately 11.42 acres located at the intersection of Thompson View Drive and Thompson Park Drive.]
CONSIDER APPROVING THOMPSON ROAD BUSINESS PARK.PRELIMINARY PLAT BEING APPROXIMATELY 11.42 ACRES LOCATED AT THE INTERSECTION OF THOMPSON VIEW DRIVE AND THOMPSON PARK DRIVE.
SO THIS ONE, THIS FOR, FOR THIS PLAT, THIS IS WITH THE THOMPSON ROAD BUSINESS PARK.
UM, THEY ARE LOCATED GENERALLY EAST OF THE INTERSECTION OF I 10 AND SPUR THREE 30.
UH, IT LIKE PREVIOUS LIKE MENTIONED THE ITEM, IT IS AT THE INTERSECTION OF THOMPSON VIEW AND THOMPSON PARK DRIVES AND THEY ARE CREATING TWO RESERVES.
QUESTIONS? ANYONE? I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE.
ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSIONERS? I'LL IN FACT, PLEASE INDICATE BY SAYING AYE.
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WE ARE NOW GOING INTO ZONING AND I WILL READ THE FOLLOWING ONE TIME AND IT APPLIES TO ALL PUBLIC HEARINGS.PUBLIC HEARINGS ARE HELD FOR THE PURPOSE OF GIVING ALL INTERESTED PERSONS THE RIGHT TO SPEAK AND BE HEARD.
EVERYONE DESIRING TO SPEAK AT TODAY'S HEARING SHOULD HAVE SIGNED THE APPROPRIATE LIST AS THIS LIST WILL BE, WILL PROVIDE THE SPEAKING ORDER FOR THE HEARING.
EACH SPEAKER SHALL GIVE HIS OR HER NAME AND ADDRESS TO PROVIDE A PROPER RECORD OF THIS HEARING.
THE RULES ALLOW EACH SPEAKER THREE MINUTES TO PRESENT INFORMATION.
HOWEVER, I ENCOURAGE EVERYONE TO BE AS CONCISE AS POSSIBLE.
IF YOU ARE A GROUP WISHING TO ADDRESS THE BOARD ON THE SAME SUBJECT, PLEASE SELECT A SPOKESPERSON TO PRESENT THE INFORMATION.
IF ANYONE HAS ANY QUESTIONS, PLEASE DIRECT THEM TO ME.
UH, I WILL NOW OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING
[a. Conduct a pubilic hearing and consider a request to amend the official zoning map to rezone approximately 35.10 acres generally located near 703 Hunt Road from a General Commercial (GC) to a Medium Density Mixed Residential (MF1) Zoning District. ]
FOR A CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDER A REQUEST TO AMEND THE OFFICIAL ZONING MAP TO REZONE APPROXIMATELY 35 POINT 10 ACRES.GENERALLY LOCATED NEAR 7 0 3 HUNT ROAD FROM A GENERAL COMMERCIAL TO A MEDIUM DENSITY MIXED RESIDENTIAL MF ONE ZONING DISTRICT.
UM, I WANT TO INTRODUCE THIS PROJECT TO YOU ALL.
WE ARE LOOKING AT A 35.1 ACRE TRACT LOCATED ALONG HUNT ROAD.
UM, IF YOU LOOK AT YOUR MAP HERE, UM, JUST OFF OF THE MAP, UH, TO THE WEST WOULD BE GARTH ROAD.
UM, THIS PARTICULAR AREA HERE THAT MY CURSOR IS CIRCLING, THAT IS YOUR HEB SITE.
THIS IS ALSO A SENIOR LIVING FACILITY.
UM, SOME SMALL, SOME REMNANTS OF, UH, RESIDENTIAL, UH, USES THAT ARE HERE ALONG HUNT ROAD AND THEN THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IN ITSELF.
SO THAT SHOULD GIVE YOU SOME CONTEXT OF WHERE WE ARE.
AND THEN OF COURSE, TO THE EAST, WE HAVE OUR OTHER MAJOR CORRIDOR, WHICH IS NORTH MAIN STREET.
TO GIVE YOU SOME IMAGES OF WHAT'S IN THE AREA AGAIN, UM, THE PICTURE TO THE LEFT HERE IS GOING TO BE THE SENIOR LIVING FACILITY, UM, DIRECTLY NEIGHBORING.
THE PROPERTY IS GOING TO BE THE, THE, THE RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES THAT EXIST THERE IN THAT PARTICULAR AREA.
AND THE VI AND THE PROPERTY THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT IS A VACANT PROPERTY.
TONIGHT WE ARE LOOKING TO GO FROM A GENERAL COMMERCIAL ZONING DISTRICT TO A MULTIFAMILY ZONING DISTRICT.
THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO DO WHAT WE CALL A HORIZONTAL MIX RESIDENTIAL, UH, DEVELOPMENT.
IT, IT BASICALLY ISN'T LIKE YOUR GARDEN STYLE APARTMENTS.
IT'S GOING TO BE ONE TWO STORY AND LOW STORY TYPE, UM, SCALE OF DEVELOPMENT TO TALK ABOUT THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP.
UM, THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP DOES INDICATE THIS AREA TO BE LARGE SCALE, UH, COMMERCIAL.
AND AS YOU RECALL LAST, I BELIEVE IT WAS THE LAST MEETING WE LOOKED AT AMENDMENTS FOR, UM, INCLUDING SOME RESIDENTIAL USES INSIDE OF THIS AREA.
AND WITH THAT, IF THAT AMENDMENT IS APPROVED, THIS WOULD BE AN APPROPRIATE AREA FOR, UH, SUCH, UM, RESIDENTIAL USES.
UM, THE EXISTING ZONING IN THE AREA, UM, IS, IS, AS YOU SEE ON THE MAP, IS NEIGHBORING THE PLAN UNIT DEVELOPMENT, WHICH IS THE SENIOR LIVING FACILITY.
UH, THIS PARTICULAR ELONGATED, UH, LOW TO MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY HERE IN THE YELLOW WAS RECENTLY ZONED EARLIER THIS YEAR.
AND SO WAS THIS SMALLER TRACT HERE.
AND THESE WERE BOTH ZONED TO SF TWO.
SO YOU HAVE, UH, THE SMALL SCALE SINGLE FAMILY, UH, AREA, AND THEN YOU HAVE A LARGER, MORE TRADITIONAL SUBURBAN STYLE, UH, SUBDIVISION THAT HAS BEEN REZONED FOR THE AREA ADJACENT TO THE, THIS PROPERTY IS GOING TO BE A, UH, SINGLE FAMILY ESTATE ZONED AREA.
NOW WE, WE DO NOT THINK THAT THIS AREA IS DESIGNATED FOR A SINGLE FAMILY ESTATE.
AS YOU SAW ON THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP, WE'RE EXPECTING THIS TO TRANSITION OUT.
UM, AND THAT MAY BE INDICATED BY THE EXISTING CONDITION OF THE PROPERTY BEING VACANT.
AGAIN, SFE IS A ZONING AREA WHERE WE WILL REQUIRE A ACRE OR LARGER OF LAND FOR RESIDENTIAL USES.
THIS IS NOT THE AREA WHERE WE WOULD GENERALLY INVITE THAT TYPE OF, UH, DEVELOPMENT.
UH, ACROSS THE STREET YOU HAVE, UH, SOME, UM, MULTIFAMILY TWO AND SOME, UH, MF ONE ZONING THAT EXISTS, UM, ON THE PROPERTY.
UH, AGAIN, SMALLER UNITS MAYBE, UH, I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE NUMBER IS, BUT IT'S NOT ONE OF OUR LARGER SCALE APARTMENT
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COMPLEXES.AGAIN, THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY IS BEING ZONED TWO MF ONE AS SEEN ON THE MAP.
THIS IS HOW IT WOULD GENERALLY LOOK.
AND THEN THIS IS A IMAGE OF THE APPLICANT'S, UH, GENERAL SITE PLAN.
UH, IT INCLUDES MULTIPLE PRO PRODUCTS ON THE PROPERTY.
UH, YOU SEE HERE ALONG THE SIDE, THESE ARE GOING TO BE MORE SO OF YOUR SINGLE UNIT TYPE, UH, DEVELOPMENTS.
AGAIN, WE'RE LOOKING AT THE HORIZONTAL MIXED USE OR THE MIXED RESIDENTIAL.
SO YOU, YOU DON'T HAVE EVERY BUILDING.
IT'S NOT EVERY BUILDING IS NOT THE SAME.
YOU HAVE THE SINGLE COTTAGES, YOU HAVE DUPLEXES, AND THEN YOU HAVE SIX PLEX UNITS.
THE SIX PLEX UNITS FLANK THE CENTER, UM, SPINE ROAD HERE, AND THEN ALONG THE EDGES HERE YOU HAVE THE SINGLE COTTAGES AND THEN YOU HAVE A MIX OF DUPLEXES IN THE MIDDLE ALONG THOSE PARTICULAR AREAS.
IT'S ALSO PROPOSING A PARK AREA HERE TO THE NORTH WHERE SAN TAVI, UH, ROAD WOULD EVENTUALLY EXTEND TO.
AND THEN THIS IS ALSO, UH, A POND AREA THAT THE APPLICANT, I BELIEVE HAS STATED COULD BE AN AMENITY FOR THE SITE AS WELL.
OVER OVERALL, WE'RE LOOKING AT ABOUT A DENSITY OF ABOUT 8, 8, 8 OR SO UNITS AN ACRE.
UH, THE MAXIMUM AMOUNT OF UNITS INSIDE OF A MF ONE ZONING DISTRICT IS UP TO 15.
SO, UH, THAT IS SOMETHING TO TO CONSIDER, UM, TONIGHT AS WELL.
BUT AS PROPOSED, THE APPLICANT IS LOOKING AT EIGHT UNITS STAFF RECOMMENDED DENIAL BASED OFF OF COMMUNITY NEED.
INSIDE OF THIS PARTICULAR REPORT, WE FEEL THAT THERE ARE A NUMBER OF MULTIFAMILY, UH, DESIGNATIONS OF THIS SCALE INSIDE OF THE CITY THAT HAVE NOT COME TO FRUITION AND HAVE NOT BEEN DEVELOPED AS OF YET.
SO, UH, WE'RE HOPING TO, UH, WE'RE BASING OUR DENIAL ON THE FACT THAT THERE'S A NUMBER OF, OF POTENTIAL PROJECTS OF THIS SIZE AND SCALE THAT HAVE NOT COME ONLINE YET.
UM, SO THERE IS, THERE, IT IS HARD FOR US TO SEE THAT THERE'S A NEED FOR THIS TYPE OF, UH, ZONING AT THIS TIME.
AND WITH THAT, THAT CONCLUDES STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION AND PRESENTATION.
ANYBODY HAVE QUESTIONS OF CHRIS? I DO.
IF I MAY START, UM, THE, I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS.
UH, 35 ACRES IS A LOT FOR MULTIFAMILY, BUT I SEE THAT THIS IS DIFFERENT PRODUCT TYPES OF MULTIFAMILY, AS YOU MENTIONED, SINGLE UNIT DUPLEXES AND SIX PLEXES, WHICH ARE NICE.
UM, AND THEN BASED ON THE NEED, UM, WHAT STAGE ARE THE OTHER PROJECTS AT AND HOW CLOSE ARE THEY TO THIS? UNDERSTOOD.
SO IN THE STAGE OF OTHER PROJECTS, THE, IF WE GET BACK TO THE ZONING MAP, UH, WE HAVE ONE PARTICULAR TRACK ON THIS SIDE THAT IS UNDEVELOPED, THAT STILL REMAINS UNDEVELOPED, WHICH IS, WHICH IS IN WITHIN THE HALF MILE MARKER.
AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE PROJECTS THAT ARE ON SAN JACINTO BEING THE SAN JACINTO COTTAGES, WHICH YOU MAY REMEMBER IS A SIMILAR PROPOSED PROJECT UP HERE HAS YET TO BE DEVELOPED.
THAT ONE IS ON, UH, SAN JACINTO BOULEVARD, UH, TO THE WEST.
WE ALSO HAVE A PROPOSED PROJECT OF 15 ACRES OR SO THAT IS ALONG NORTH MAIN.
AND THEN ANOTHER LARGER PROJECT THAT IS ON, OR NOT NORTH MAIN, I'M SORRY, JOHN MARTIN ROAD.
UM, AND THEN ANOTHER LARGE PROJECT THAT IS AT THE CORNER OF CROSBY, CEDAR BAYOU AND I 10, UM, OR CEDAR CROSBY, THE NORTH AND SOUTH TO OUR WEST.
AND SO ARE ALL OF ALL OF THOSE ALREADY APPROVED REZONED? THEY'RE ALREADY APPROVED AND THEY'RE ALL MF ONE, THEY'RE NOT MF ONE.
UH, THEY ARE JUST OF A MULTIFAMILY TYPE, HIGHER DENSITY OF HIGHER DENSITY YES.
UM, AND WE APPROVED SAN TAVI BECAUSE IT WAS DETACHED MOSTLY, WELL, FOR MANY REASONS, BUT MM-HMM
BECAUSE WE LIKE TO, THAT WAS ONE OF THEM.
AND IT ALSO IS THAT SAN JACINTO BOULEVARD WAS A BIG DRIVER FOR THAT.
WE ALSO KNOW THAT WE WANTED TO DEDICATE A LOT OF OUR DENSER HOUSING AND THAT TYPE WAS GOING TO BE APPROPRIATE FOR SAN AVI'S, PARTICULARLY.
HOW FAR IS THIS FROM SAN TAVI, PLEASE? AND, UM, I KNOW BAYTOWN VERY WELL AND DRIVE ALL THE TIME.
I I DON'T HAVE THE MATH ON AND FIND OUT.
PROBABLY, PROBABLY A MILE THREE MILES.
YEAH, IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT CLOSE.
IT'S NOT PROBABLY OVER A ALL IS OUR DEVELOPER HERE? YES.
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HERE.SO I DID WANNA POINT OUT ONE THING AS YOU BRING UP THE SAN JACINTO COTTAGES, THIS ONE IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT IN TERMS OF WHAT YOU'RE ASKED BEING ASKED TO REVIEW, BECAUSE REMEMBER THAT SAN JUSTINO COTTAGES WERE, UH, THAT WAS A PUD REQUEST.
REMEMBER THAT, THAT THAT IS, THAT ZEROES IN ON A SPECIFIC PRODUCT, A SPECIFIC PROJECT.
AND, AND THAT'S WHAT THEY HAVE TO BUILD.
THIS ONE IS AN MF ONE, UH, REQUEST, WHICH MEANS THAT ANYTHING THAT IS ALLOWED IN MF ONE SHOULD THIS PROJECT FOR WHATEVER REASON NOT COME TO FRUITION, THAT IT WOULD BE ZONED FOR, UM, ANY KIND OF MULTIFAMILY UP TO 15 UNITS UP TO 15.
AND IS THERE A WAY TO HAVE THIS ZONED AS A PUD? NOT TONIGHT.
WE'RE, WE'RE BEING ASKED TO REVIEW AN MF ONE REQUEST.
WOULD THE COMMISSIONERS LIKE TO HEAR FROM THE DEVELOPER NEXT? YES, PLEASE.
UH, TIM CRAWFORD, IS THAT YOU? YEAH.
JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, WE ARE LOOKING AT ABOUT A MILE BY THE WAY THE CROW FLIES TO, TO THE COTTAGE'S LOCATION.
WOULD YOU LIKE TO START WITH THE PRESENTATION? UM, A LITTLE BIT? MM-HMM
SO THE APPLICANT HAS PROVIDED US WITH A PRESENTATION, UM, A FLYOVER OF A PROJECT THAT EXISTS INSIDE OF, UH, WHAT'S THE LOCATION AGAIN? UH, THIS ONE'S IN CONROE IN CON.
IT HAS SOME MUSIC, BUT IT'S NOT PLAYING.
THIS IS, UH, THE COTTAGE GREEN THAT WAS DEVELOPED IN CONROE.
WE, UM, UH, SOLD IT TO A PARTNER.
THEY CHANGED THE NAME ON IT, BUT, UH, AS YOU CAN SEE, IT HAS A, UH, HAS A AMENITY SPINE DOWN THE MIDDLE.
IT HAS THE ONE STORY PRODUCT ON THE PERIPHERAL ALONG THE SPINE.
IT HAS A TWO STORY PRODUCT, REALLY IDENTICAL TO WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO HERE.
WE'LL LET THIS PLAY OUT AND THEN WE WILL TALK SOME MORE.
MAY I ASK YOU HOW MANY ACRES THIS PROJECT IS? THIS WAS ON ABOUT 25 ACRES, ABOUT 200 UNITS.
NOW, THE SITE PLAN THAT CHRIS SHOWED HAS SOME AGE ON IT.
THAT'S NOT EXACTLY WHERE WE ARE, BUT THE DENSITY IS CORRECT.
SO YOU SAID THIS PROPERTY'S A BIT SMALLER BUT HAS MORE UNITS? NO, THE, THAT'S WHAT I SAID.
THE SITE PLAN HE SHOWED WAS, IT HAD QUITE A BIT OF AGE ON IT.
I THINK, UM, ONCE WE POPPED OVER TO THE OTHER SIDE OF THE STREET, UH, OR THE, UH, THE PIPELINE, I THINK WE'RE UP TO LIKE 2 86 UNITS.
WHICH TRANSFERS TO THE EIGHT DENSITY THAT CHRIS MENTIONED.
I HAVE SOME MATERIAL TO PASS OUT.
IS IT APPROPRIATE FOR ME TO PASS IT OUT TO EACH? YES.
IF YOU COULD PLEASE, UH, GIVE IT TO THE, UH, SECRETARY REPRESENTING THE, THE BOARD.
ONE OF MY CONCERNS ON, ON PROPERTIES LIKE THIS IS, IS PARKING AND THE FIRE DEPARTMENT ACCESS AND SUCH.
AND THEN YOUR EXAMPLE, ONE FOR EACH, IT LOOKED AS IF YOU HAD AMPLE PARKING.
UM, SINCE OUR DRAWING IS AGED, DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY PARKING SPOTS THERE WOULD BE FOR THE, THE NEW DESIGN? YEAH, WE'RE AT AROUND 2.25 PER HOUSE.
UM, WHICH IS, UM, QUITE A BIT A ACTUALLY, RIGHT.
I MEAN, MY FEELING WE'RE A LITTLE BIT OVER PARKED, BUT IT WORKS OUT WELL.
AND YOU DO ALL THE GARAGES AS WELL.
THERE'S, UH, GARAGES ON SITE, CARPORTS ON SITE.
UH, BY THE WAY, I HAVE, UH, I CAN CONSOLIDATE SOME, I HAVE A COUPLE PEOPLE TO SPEAK.
I CAN CONSOLIDATE SOME TIME ALL TO ME, IF THAT'S OKAY.
I HAVE THREE PEOPLE ON THE LIST.
AND, AND NOT TO BE TOO NOSY, BUT WHAT PRICE RANGE ARE YOU TARGETING HERE AS FAR AS MONTHLY? YEAH.
SO THE PROJECT THAT WE JUST DID IN, UH, WELL, WE HAVE ONE IN THE WOODLANDS AND WE HAVE ONE IN, IN CONROE.
THE, THE ONE IN CONROE THAT, UM, WE'RE JUST STARTING TO RENT THE ONE IN THE WOODLANDS.
UM, WE'RE ABOUT 20 TO 35% ABOVE MARKET, UM, WITH IT.
IT'S A, IT'S A HIGH END PRODUCT.
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OKAY.IF I CONSOLIDATE ALL, ALL THREE OF US, THAT MEANS I HAVE WHAT, ABOUT NINE MINUTES? DOES THAT SOUND RIGHT OR HOW DOES THAT WORK? I DON'T KNOW, BUT ANYWAY, I'LL JUST GO FOR, I'LL TRUDGE ON AND YOU TELL ME WHEN I NEED TO STOP A, AS THE APPLICANT, YOU CAN, WE CAN MAKE THAT DETERMINATION, BUT YOU CAN PRETTY MUCH GO AS LONG AS YOU WANT.
SO THERE'S A, I GAVE YOU A LOT OF INFORMATION HERE.
AND YOU'LL NEVER GET THROUGH IT ALL QUICKLY.
BUT WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO IS, UH, THERE'S, THERE'S A PACKET CALLED P AND Z PRESENTATION.
I'D LIKE TO GO THROUGH THAT TONIGHT IF POSSIBLE.
AND, UM, AND THEN IN ADDITION TO THAT, MAYBE WHILE I'M TALKING, IF, UH, IF YOU LIKE TO LOOK AT PRETTY PICTURES, THERE'S, THERE'S A PACKET IN THERE CALLED PIC PICTURE PACKET.
AND YOU COULD PACE THROUGH THAT AND LOOK AT SOME OF, UH, SOME OF WHAT THE PRODUCT IS.
BUT I'LL START BY GOING THROUGH THE, THE PNZ PRESENTATION.
UH, LET ME TELL YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE PRODUCT.
UM, SO IT'S 35 ACRES, AS WE TALKED ABOUT, GATED IN PRIVATE.
IT'S GOT A SOUTHERN COASTAL DESIGN STYLE, AS YOU'LL SEE, IT KIND OF LOOKS LIKE THE BEACH, UH, MAIN STREET LOOK, CANOPY LIGHTS WITH A TALL CLOCK TOWER.
THE FEATURED HOMES ARE 191 STORY COTTAGES AND PATIO HOMES, WHICH IS ABOUT 67% OF THE OFFERING.
64% ARE ALONG THE MAIN STREET.
AND THOSE ARE TWO, TWO STORY PRODUCTS.
UH, THAT'S ABOUT 22% OF THE OFFERING.
UH, NO, THOSE ARE ALL, I, I MEANT, THOSE ARE ALL ON THE, UH, MAIN FLOOR.
SO WE HAVE ABOUT 88%, THAT'S EITHER ONE STORY OR ON THE MAIN FLOOR, WHICH IS A LOT, RIGHT? SO, UM, INSTEAD OF AOT OF TWO STORY PRODUCT, THREE STORY PRODUCT, THIS IS, THESE ARE HOMES THAT ARE EITHER ON THE GROUND FLOOR OR, UM, A SINGLE STORY.
ABOUT A HUNDRED PERCENT OF THE HOMES EITHER HAVE A PRIVATE YARD OR A LARGE BREEZY USABLE PORCH.
WE HAVE REALLY BIG PORCHES ON THE TWO STORY PRODUCT.
UM, IT'S, IT'S A, TYPICALLY IT'S A TYPICAL AMENITIZED MULTI-FAMILY DEAL, POOL, CLUBHOUSE, FITNESS CENTER, WALKABLE NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, POND TRAILS.
THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS WE LOVE ABOUT THIS SITE.
UM, SCATTERED GREENS AND PARKS, OPEN SPACES, ART SCULPTURES, BARK PARK, UH, PET WASH STATION, ALL THOSE NICE THINGS.
UM, IT'S MULTIFAMILY MANAGEMENT AND OPERATED, MEANING IT'S ONE OWNER ONE LOT.
UM, SO YOU KNOW THAT THAT HELPS A LOT WITH, UH, WORRYING ABOUT MAINTENANCE AND WHAT YOUR NEIGHBORS DO AND THINGS LIKE THAT ALIGNS WITH THE FUTURE LAND USE PLAN AS, AS, UH, CHRIS MENTIONED.
AND IT ALSO DONATES RIGHT AWAY FOR THE FUTURE SAN TAVI EXTENSION.
AND IT ALSO, UH, DONATES RIGHT AWAY FOR THE FUTURE EAST ROAD CONNECTION.
SO THERE'S A LOT OF, UH, RIGHT AWAY DEDICATION HAPPENING HERE.
THE HOME DETAILS, IT'S ON THE THIRD PAGE.
1, 2, 3 BEDROOM HOMES, COMBINATION OF ONE AND TWO STORIES, AS WE TALKED ABOUT.
THE TWO STORIES ARE ALONG THE INTERNAL MAIN STREET TO CREATE A GREAT, A GREAT LOOK.
UH, AND THEN THE COTTAGES AND THE PATIO HOMES ARE ON THE PERIMETER.
THE, THERE ARE GARAGES AND CARPORTS SPREAD AROUND THE DIS IN THE DISPERSED PARKING AREAS.
AND THERE'S 20% MORE PARKING THAN'S REQUIRED BY, BY, UH, THE CITY ORDINANCE.
LOTS OF PRIVATE OUTDOOR YARDS.
UM, 60 PER, UH, 66% OF THE HOMES HAVE PRIVATE YARDS.
SO PATCH OF GRASS FOR THE DOG, FOR WHATEVER.
UM, LARGE BREEZY OUTDOOR PORCHES ON THE, UH, YOU CAN SEE THE PORCHES ON THE TWO STORY PRODUCT.
AND THEN HIGH-END, HIGH-END INTERIORS AS WELL.
SO LET'S TALK ABOUT COMMUNITY NEEDS.
SO, UM, STAFF HAS DECIDED THAT IT DOESN'T MEET A COMMUNITY NEED BECAUSE OF PRODUCTS THAT AREN'T BUILT.
AND, UM, SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I'VE GOT IN YOUR PACKET, AND I, I REALLY DON'T HAVE TIME TO GO THROUGH IT, BUT I HAVE A REALLY LENGTHY SLIDE DECK ON COMMUNITY NEED.
AND, UM, IT, IT TALKS ABOUT DEMOGRAPHICS FOR THE, THE PRODUCTS THAT WE'VE DONE.
IT TALKS ABOUT, UM, UH, IT, IT TALKS A LITTLE BIT ABOUT, THERE'S SOME GRAPHS IN THERE ABOUT, UH, RENTERSHIP AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO THERE'S A WHOLE PACKET ON COMMUNITY NEED.
THE OTHER THING WE'VE DONE IS THERE'S A HOUSING ANALYSIS IN THERE AS WELL.
IT TAKES ALL THE, THE HOUSING PRODUCT FROM TWO, 2014 THAT'S BEEN APPROVED IN BAYTOWN, SO FROM 2014 TILL NOW.
AND IT ANALYZES ALL OF THE MULTIFAMILY THAT'S BEEN APPROVED AND IT ANALYZE, ANALYZES ALL OF THE SINGLE FAMILY THAT'S BEEN APPROVED.
AND THEN IT CREATES SOME RATIOS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO, YOU KNOW, THE, THE, THE PRODUCT THAT WE'RE MOST LIKE IS THE ONE, UH, THAT WAS MENTIONED EARLIER.
THE, UH, UH, SAN CENTRAL COTTAGES, IT'S SIMILAR, BUT IT'S COMPLETELY DIFFERENT AS WELL.
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OUR, UM, OUR PRODUCT IS PROVEN.IT'S VERY SUCCESSFUL, RENTED UP VERY QUICKLY.
UM, AND, UM, SO WE KNOW IT'S A SUCCESSFUL PRODUCT.
BUT HAVING SAID THAT, UH, AS FAR AS THE DENSITY AND THE WAY THAT SOME OF THE THINGS THAT THEY DID, IT IS A SIMILAR PRODUCT.
UM, WHAT I, WHAT WE FOUND IN DOING OUR ANALYSIS IS ROUGHLY 35.
THERE'S A, A 65, 30 5% RATIO BETWEEN FOR SALE AND, UH, RENTAL PRODUCT IN BAYTOWN.
AND, UM, TO GO INTO THE OTHER PACKET, I DON'T REALLY WANT TO WANNA GO INTO MUCH DETAIL, I JUST WANT TO SHOW YOU THE CHART.
SO THERE'S A CHART IN THE OTHER PACKET THAT SHOWS RENTERSHIP IN THE UNITED STATES, AND IT'S ACTUALLY FALLING A LITTLE BIT RIGHT NOW.
YEAH, RENTERSHIP HAD BEEN FALLING A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE THE, THE, UH, THERE WAS SO MUCH FOR SALE HOUSING THAT WAS GETTING SOLD.
BUT AT, AT SOME POINT AROUND 2017, 2018, THE RENTERSHIP WAS AROUND 37%.
RIGHT NOW IT'S AROUND 35% NATIONAL AVERAGE.
AND THAT'S RIGHT WHERE BAYTOWN IS.
UM, ON THE NATIONAL AVERAGE, LET'S, UM, LET'S GO OVER THAT PAGE REAL QUICK.
THAT TALKS ABOUT COMMUNITY NEED.
SO IN THE, IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT WAS APPROVED IN MAY, JUST IN MAY, THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TALKED ABOUT A NEED FOR DIFFERENT HOUSING TYPES.
IT TALKED ABOUT A VARIETY PROMOTING A VARIETY OF HOUSING TYPES.
IT TALKED ABOUT PROMOTING, UH, HORIZONTAL APARTMENT PROJECTS.
IT TALKED ABOUT THE MISSING MIDDLE.
THEY ACTUALLY USED THAT TERM, WHICH WAS BASICALLY THIS HORIZONTAL MULTIFAMILY TYPE PRODUCT.
AND IT'S, THERE'S A PAGE, IT'S PAGE 154 IN THE STRATEGIC, IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
IT TALKS ABOUT BUILD TO RENT, SINGLE FAMILY HOMES.
THERE'S A PICTURE OF A PRODUCT THAT'S REAL SIMILAR TO MY PRODUCT RIGHT HERE.
AND, UM, AND THAT'S WHAT IT CALLS FOR.
SO, YOU KNOW, THERE'S, THERE'S A LOT OF, THERE'S A LOT OF MULTIFAMILY, BUT THERE'S A LOT OF HO HOMOGENEOUS MULTIFAMILY, RIGHT? THERE'S NOT A LOT OF MULTIFAMILY LIKE THIS.
THIS IS COMPLETELY DIFFERENT THAN ANYTHING BAY TOWN'S EVER SEEN.
AND THEN NOT ONLY DOES, YOU KNOW, BAYTOWN NEED DIFFERENT HOUSING TYPES, BUT IT NEEDS SOME BETTER HOUSING TYPES.
UM, THERE'S A LOT OF CORPORATE INVESTMENT, THERE'S A LOT OF JOBS BEING CREATED THROUGH THIS INVESTMENT.
AND THESE CORPORATIONS NEED HOUSING FOR THEIR PEOPLE, RIGHT? SO A LOT OF, A LOT OF THE DEMOGRAPHIC INFORMATION THAT I I PUT IN THIS COMMUNITY NEED PACKET IS, UM, OUR FIRST, OUR FIRST PROJECT WE HAD ABOUT, UM, LEMME GET THIS RIGHT, 61% CAME FROM OTHER APARTMENTS.
SO THEY LOOK AROUND AND THEY SAY, YOU KNOW, I, I DON'T WANT LIVE LIKE THIS ANYMORE.
I WANNA LIVE SOMEWHERE ELSE OR SOMEWHERE DIFFERENT.
AND 39% OF OUR, UM, OCCUPANTS CAME FROM, UH, SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, BELIEVE IT OR NOT.
SO IT'S A LOT OF PEOPLE IN TRANSITION AND UH, AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
THEY MOVE IN, THEY'RE NOT READY TO BUY A HOUSE OR THE HOUSING MARKET ISN'T RIGHT FOR THEM.
PEOPLE GOING THROUGH DIVORCE, THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO IT'S, THAT'S KIND OF HOW THE NUMBERS WERE SPLIT.
BUT MY, MY POINT IS IN THIS IS, YOU KNOW, WHEN BETTER HOUSING COMES ALONG AND THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO APPROVE REALLY GOOD HOUSING, UM, YOU SHOULD REALLY TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT.
'CAUSE YOU DON'T KNOW WHEN IT'LL COME ALONG AGAIN.
AND NUMBER TWO, GOOD PROJECTS BREED GOOD PROJECTS.
YOU KNOW, YOU NEED GOOD PROJECTS TO ATTRACT MORE GOOD PROJECTS.
AND, UH, I THINK THIS IS A REALLY GREAT PROJECT AND I THINK, UM, I THINK IT MEETS THE COMMUNITY NEED.
UM, REAL QUICKLY, I JUST WANTED TO WALK THROUGH A COUPLE OF OTHER THINGS.
THE NEXT PAGE SHOWS A CHRISTOPHER TODD PRODUCT.
THAT PICTURE THAT IS IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS A CHRISTOPHER TODD PRODUCT.
IT CHRISTOPHER TODD, UH, BUILDS A HORIZONTAL MULTIFAMILY PROJECT.
THIS ONE'S IN GLENDALE, ARIZONA.
THERE ARE SCORES AND SCORES OF THESE PROJECTS AROUND THAT VALLEY, AND THAT'S, THEY ALL LOOK PRETTY MUCH THE SAME.
MINE'S A MINE'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN THESE, BUT I JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU AN INDICATION OF WHERE THAT CAME FROM, WHERE THAT PICTURE CAME FROM IN THE, IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
THE NEXT, THE NEXT SLIDE SHOWS MY, MY LAYOUT.
UM, AND THIS IS THE NEW FRESHEST LAYOUT.
IT SHOWS THE, UM, THE GREEN SPACE, SO YOU CAN SEE HOW IT'S ALL LAID OUT WITH, UM, THE GREEN SPACE AND THE COVERAGE AREA.
AND THEN THE LAST THING I WANNA SHOW YOU, UM, AS FAR AS A SITE PLAN GOES IS A, A MULTI-FAMILY PROJECT THAT WAS APPROVED RECENTLY, WELL, NOT APPROVED RECENTLY, BUT BUILT RECENTLY, IS THAT'S, THAT'S THE ALTA PROJECT OVER ON SAN JACINTO.
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ACTUALLY SOLD IT, IT'S NOW CALLED ECHO, BUT UM, YOU CAN KINDA SEE IT, IT USES UP THE ENTIRE SITE AS WELL AS, AS WELL AS, UH, OURS.SO LET'S TALK ABOUT ALTO AND ECHO AND COMPARE IT TO OURS.
SO THIS IS A REALLY NEAT COMPARISON.
IT SHOWS THE COTTAGE GREEN AND THEN THE AUTO ECHO PROJECT.
SOMEBODY NOTED THAT 35 ACRES IS A LOT FOR MULTIFAMILY, BUT YOU CAN REALLY SEE THAT THE DENSITY IS WHAT CHANGES EVERYTHING.
OUR DENSITY'S EIGHT, THEIR DENSITY'S 17, THEY HAVE MORE BUILT SQUARE FEET THAN WE DO ON LESS, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, ALMOST HALF, HALF THE AMOUNT OF ACRES.
ONE IN ONE IN TWO STORY PRODUCT, THEY HAVE THREE.
OUR COVERAGE RATIO IS LESS THAN 50%.
THEY HAVE A COVERAGE RATIO AT THE TIME OF APPROVAL.
THEY HAVE 50 MORE UNITS THAN US ON, UH, HALF AS MUCH ACRES.
OUR PARKING RATIO IS A LOT HIGHER AT 2.25.
AND THERE'S THIS 1.85, WHICH IS PRETTY STANDARD FOR A MULTIFAMILY IS, UH, ONE POINT EIGHT'S PRETTY STANDARD.
SO THE LAST, THE LAST SLIDE I HAVE, LAST THING TO SAY REALLY IS THIS LAST PAGE.
IT TALKS ABOUT TRADITIONAL MULTIFAMILY PROJECTS.
CAN'T COMPARE TO THE COTTAGE GREEN, THE PRIVATE YARDS, THE COMMUNITY SPACE TO SPREAD OUT WITH MUCH LOWER DENSITY, THE BETTER QUALITY OF LIFE, HIGHER RENTS, HIGHER PROPERTY VALUES, FOSTERED SENSE OF COMMUNITY.
WE REALLY WORK HARD TO FOSTER A SENSE OF COMMUNITY AND YOU CAN ACTUALLY FILL IT WHEN YOU DRIVE IN.
AND THEN THE CUTENESS FACTOR, I MEAN, IT'S JUST, I MEAN, IT'S CRAZY CUTE.
UM, SO THAT'S KIND OF OUR PRODUCT.
AS, AS FAR AS, UM, THE POINT THAT, UM, MR. CHAVEZ MADE, UH, CHAVEZ MADE ABOUT, UH, THIS, OR SOMEBODY MADE THE POINT ABOUT THIS IS NOT A, UM, A PUD, RIGHT? SO WE WANTED TO COME IN AS A PUD ORIGINALLY, AND THEY ASKED US TO BRING IT IN AS MF ONE.
UM, COMPLETELY FINE WITH THAT.
I THINK IT WAS A GOOD DECISION AND WE ARE WILLING TO, UM, ENTER INTO, UM, A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT OR WHATEVER NEEDS TO BE TO RESTRICT THE DENSITY AND SOME OTHER THINGS.
THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'LL PROPOSE DOWN THE ROAD WITH COUNCIL.
WE'RE NOT PREPARED TO DO THAT TONIGHT.
BUT, UM, I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, WE, WE DON'T HAVE ANY DESIRE TO HAVE AN OPEN ZONING HERE WHERE IT'S AN MF CATEGORY THAT CAN BECOME ANYTHING AT, YOU KNOW, ANYTHING THAT FITS IN, INTO THE CATEGORY.
I WISH THERE WAS A WAY, A CONDITIONAL DISTRICT WHERE WE COULD DO THAT, BUT YOU DON'T HAVE THAT IN THE CITY.
SO, UM, SOMEBODY BROUGHT THAT UP PREVIOUSLY, BUT THAT'S NOT REALLY WHAT OUR INTENT IS, RIGHT? SO QUESTION, SURE.
YOU SOUND LIKE YOU'RE REALLY SHOVEL READY.
IF, IF YOU WERE APPROVED, HOW SOON WOULD YOU MOVE FORWARD? SO THAT ALL DEPENDS ON, UH, PERMITS.
IT, IT DEPENDS ON THE PERMIT PROCESS.
WE'VE MET WITH, UH, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, EVERYTHING, UH, CHECKS OUT REALLY GOOD WITH WHAT WE, WE'VE, WE'VE GONE, WE'VE GONE THROUGH A COUPLE MUNICIPALITIES NOW, SO WE KIND OF KNOW WHAT TO DO.
UM, UH, WE STARTED, UH, WE'RE REALLY QUICK.
UH, THE ONE WE'RE DOING IN THE WOODLANDS, WE STARTED FOUR WEEKS AGO.
WE ALREADY HAVE 93 HOMES, UM, UNDER CONSTRUCTION.
WE'LL HAVE ANOTHER HUNDRED BY CHRISTMAS AND THEN ANOTHER A HUNDRED AFTER THAT, A COUPLE MONTHS AFTER THAT.
SO WE MOVE REALLY FAST AND, AND CAN GET IT DONE REALLY QUICKLY.
BUT PERMITS IS THE, AN, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, I, RIGHT, IT JUST DEPENDS, DEPENDS HOW LONG IT TAKES TO PULL PERMITS.
SO IT SOUNDS LIKE IF YOU, IF YOU GET TO GO AHEAD, YOU'RE PRETTY MUCH READY TO GO.
I THINK THIS IS BEAUTIFUL BY THE WAY.
IT'S VERY AESTHETICALLY APPEALING AND I REALLY, REALLY LIKE WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO DO HERE.
HOWEVER, I DO TEND TO TRUST OUR STAFF.
SO MY NEXT QUESTION IS ACTUALLY A STAFF QUESTION.
CAN I DO IT? SO IF WE ARE DRAWING A LINE IN THE SAND SAYING NO MORE MULTIFAMILIES, DOES THAT MEAN FROM THIS POINT ON ANYBODY THAT COMES? BECAUSE I DON'T WANNA SINGLE SOMEBODY OUT OR JUST SAY, NO, NO TO THIS PROJECT.
AND THE NEXT THREE GET TO GET TO BE APPROVED.
SO I KIND OF WANNA KNOW WHERE, WHERE ARE WE STANDING? SO WE LOOK AT EACH DEVELOPMENT ON ITS OWN MERIT.
IT'S NOT A MATTER OF IT BEING JUST MULTIFAMILY.
UM, IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, WE'RE LOOKING AT THE SCALE OF THE DEVELOPMENTS.
SO ALL THE PROJECTS THAT I MENTIONED TO YOU ARE 15 ACRES AND ABOVE, UM, WHICH INDICATES A, AN A AN ABILITY TO HAVE A LOT OF UNITS, RIGHT? SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHY THIS ONE IS COMPARED TO THOSE OTHERS.
UH, IT, THERE'S GONNA BE ANOTHER ITEM THAT YOU'LL SEE TONIGHT.
IT'S GONNA BE ON A SMALLER SCALE, NOT COMPARABLE TO THIS, RIGHT? UM, BUT THEY'RE SEEKING THE SAME ZONING DISTRICT.
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WE WOULD NOT COMPARE THOSE TWO AND TREAT THOSE AS THE SAME.SO WE HAVE TO LOOK AT EACH, UH, PROJECT ON ITS OWN WHERE IT'S PRESENTED.
WE GO THROUGH THE CRITERIA AND THEN WE GIVE YOU ALL OUR BEST RECOMMENDATIONS.
SO IT'S NOT ALIGNED IN THE SAND FOR THE ZONING DISTRICT IN ITSELF.
THE DISTRICT IS THERE TO BE UTILIZED.
WE WANT TO UTILIZE IT, BUT IT IS ALSO, UH, OUR RESPONSIBILITY TO MAKE SURE THAT IT, THAT OUR, UM, RECOMMENDATIONS CAN BE CONSISTENT THROUGHOUT WHATEVER THAT MEANS.
AND IN THIS CASE, IT MEANS SCALE, THE SCALE OF THE MF ONE.
SO SINCE WE'VE BEEN GIVEN A TON OF INFORMATION HERE TO LOOK OVER, IS IT POSSIBLE TO JUST SAY, WAIT, CAN WE LOOK THIS OVER AND COME BACK AND MAKE A DECISION? IF YOU ALL DECIDE TO DO THAT, YOU CAN.
IT IS, IT'S A HUGE PACKET, BUT IT'S A VERY DIFFERENT FROM WHAT WE'RE USED TO IN THIS COMMUNITY.
AND QUITE FRANKLY, THERE ARE AN AWFUL LOT OF PEOPLE OUT THERE LIKE MYSELF, WHO WOULD PREFER TO LIVE ON A GROUND FLOOR OR IN A COTTAGE THAN LIVING UP ON THE THIRD FLOOR OF AN APARTMENT UNIT.
SO IT'S NOT SOMETHING WE'VE EVER HAD BEFORE.
AND FROM WHAT I SEE, IT'S VERY DESIRABLE PRODUCT.
AND I TRUST, UH, CITY STAFF AS WELL.
UM, BUT WHAT I LIKE ABOUT THIS IS THAT IT'S, IT IS THE MISSING MIDDLE.
IT'S NOT COMPARABLE TO THE VERTICAL THREE STORY, FIVE STORY MULTIFAMILY.
SO IT IS COMPLETELY DIFFERENT.
UM, AND IT IS, UM, LESS DENSITY.
SO, UM, I JUST RAN THROUGH THE WHOLE PACKAGE, BUT I UNDERSTAND IT'S A LOT AND WE NEED TO, UM, HAVE, EVERYONE NEEDS TO HAVE TIME TO REVIEW IT.
BUT I WOULD MOVE TO APPROVE THIS WITH CONDITIONS OF THE DENSITY AND SO ON.
THINGS LIKE THAT, THAT WOULD MEET THE CRITERIA.
I THINK THE MISSING MIDDLE WAS THE KEY PHRASE THERE.
'CAUSE IT'S A DIFFERENT KIND OF HOUSING THAN WE HAVE.
AND I THINK IT'S, I THINK IT'S A VERY POSITIVE TYPE OF HOUSING.
IT'S IN AN AREA WE'RE TRYING TO PROMOTE AS UPSCALE.
AND IT'S UH, UH, OBVIOUSLY A NICE PRODUCT ALSO TOO, I'D LIKE TO, UM, ADD, UM, ASK WHAT ARE WE DOING TO COME UP WITH SOME ZONING FOR THAT MISSING METAL? SO WE CAN HAVE, WE CAN IDENTIFY IT.
WE, WE WILL DEFINITELY BE REVISITING THAT.
AS YOU KNOW, WE ARE DOING A-U-L-D-C UPDATE.
SO YOU'LL GET A CHANCE TO SEE, UH, HOPEFULLY WITH THAT, WITH WHAT WE PRODUCE AT THE END OF THAT.
OR AS WE DEVELOP THAT, WE'LL BE EXPLORING THE TYPE OF PRODUCTS OF EACH ZONING DISTRICT WOULD PERMIT BY.
RIGHT? SO IT'LL BE, HOPEFULLY OUR NEW ZONING OR U NEW ULDC WILL LOOK A A LOT DIFFERENT THAN THE ONE THAT WE HAVE.
SO YOU DON'T GET CAUGHT IN THESE SITUATIONS WHERE EVERYTHING IS WIDE OPEN.
THERE'LL BE SOME PRODUCTS ALLOWED BY, RIGHT.
AND IF THE APPLICANT WANTS TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT THAN THAT, THEN THEY WOULD NEED TO COME TO THE BOARDS FOR APPROVAL.
AND, AND TO BE SURE I UNDERSTAND YOUR OBJECTION, YOU'RE SAYING IF THIS WAS A FIVE OR 10 ACRE PROPERTY, YOU WOULD BE OKAY WITH IT, BUT BECAUSE IT'S LARGER DEPENDING ON CONTEXT.
AND I WANTED TO POINT OUT COMMISSIONER WINFREY, UM, AS YOU MENTIONED, A CONDITION OF APPROVAL, UH, BEING SOME SORT OF A LIMIT ON DENSITY OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THAT'S NOT WITHIN YOUR PURVIEW.
WHAT YOU'RE BEING ASKED IS TO APPROVE MF ONE.
UM, AGAIN, MR. CRAWFORD HAS, HAS VERY CLEARLY STATED HIS INTENT.
THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS UP IN THE AIR.
SO WHAT, WHAT YOU'RE BEING ASKED TO APPROVE IS BASED ON WHAT HE'S PRESENTED TONIGHT, BUT ULTIMATELY IS AN MF ONE.
IF COUNSEL DECIDES THAT THEY CAN PUT SOME SORT OF DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AGREEMENT ON IT SEPARATE FROM THE REZONE THAT IS WITHIN THEIR PURVIEW TO DO.
BUT TONIGHT, WHAT THAT, THAT DOESN'T REALLY COME INTO PLAY.
SO I, I WANT TO MAKE SURE, AND THE REASON I BRING IT UP IS I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IF SOMEBODY MAKES A MOTION THAT THAT'S NOT PART OF THE MOTION.
'CAUSE WE CAN'T, WE CAN'T REALLY DO THAT.
ARE ARE WE STILL PUBLIC OR ARE WE READY? WE'RE STILL PUBLIC AND WE HAVE SOME OTHER SPEAKERS.
SO IF WE CAN MOVE FORWARD ONE MORE THING PLEASE.
UM, UM, IT WAS MENTIONED THAT, UH, THE DEVELOPER CAME AND ASKED THE CITY FOR PUD AND IT WAS SUGGESTED HE DO MF TWO.
IS SARAH REASON WHY HE DIDN'T GET PUT? YES, BECAUSE, UH, THE PLA STANDARDS WOULD ULTIMATELY CHANGE THE PRODUCT, UM, THAT HE'S PROPOSING.
UM, BECAUSE WHAT WE, WHEN WE LOOK AT PUDS, WE'RE LOOKING AT SOMETHING UNIQUE THAT CAN'T FIT INSIDE AN EXISTING ZONING DISTRICT.
HIS PROJECT FITS INSIDE OF MF ONE.
I'M JUST, SO IF WE WERE TO GET INTO THE PUD DISCUSSION, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A BACK AND FORTH DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT.
AND I DON'T THINK THAT THAT'S WHERE WE WANT IT TO BE WITH THE APPLICANT.
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UH, WHEN HUNT ROAD STARTED THROUGH, WHEN THEY CAME IN AND TOOK HUNT ROAD AND UH, THAT WAS ALL WE WERE ACTUALLY IN THE COUNTY, THEN THE CITY TOOK IT AND THEN THEY COME THROUGH THERE AND THEY TOOK IT BY A MINUTE DOMAIN.
THEY PUT ONE LANE THROUGH, THEN THEY CAME BACK, THE CITY CAME BACK AND THEY WANTED TO WIDEN IT, MAKE IT ALL PRETTY.
BUT THEN THEY WANT, WANTED SOME MORE OF MY PROPERTY AND THEY WANTED IT.
I DIDN'T WANT TO SELL IT, BUT IT WAS EITHER IMMINENT DOMAIN OR LOSE WHAT I COULD GET OUT OF IT.
SO WITH THAT, THAT'S TWICE I'VE BEEN HIT WITH THAT.
THE SECOND THING IS, UH, THEY CAME BACK, THEY DUG MY DRIVEWAY UP THREE TIMES.
UH, RIGHT NOW I BACK OUT INTO A MAIN THROUGH FAIR.
THE TEXAS STATE LAW SAYS YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO BACK OUT INTO A MAIN THROUGH FAIR.
WE GOT TRAFFIC OUT THERE THAT'S RUNNING 60, 70, 80 MILES AN HOUR.
AND HONESTLY, I'M TALKING TO YOU PEOPLE WITH, WITH ALL MY HEART BECAUSE I LIVED THERE.
IF YOU LOOK AT THAT BLUE HOUSE THAT WAS SHOWED THERE, THAT'S MY HOUSE.
I'M JUST LIKE, Y'ALL, I LIKE WHAT I, I'VE SPENT 45 YEARS OF MY LIFE BUILDING THERE.
IT WAS HER GRANDFATHER'S PROPERTY WE BUILT.
AND WE'VE LIVED THERE 45 YEARS AND VOTED RIGHT HERE.
SO WHEN THEY COME THE SECOND TIME BY A MINUTE DOMAIN TO PUT THE SECOND LANE IN, THEY HAD TO MOVE SOME TELEPHONE POLES.
OKAY? WE GOT WITH THE CITY AND, AND I ASKED THE CITY AT THAT POINT, I SAID, LOOK, I SAID THEY PUT ANOTHER DRIVE IN OVER HERE WHERE MY GOES BACK TO MY SHOP.
I'M DRIVING UNDERNEATH A GUY WIRE.
IF I'LL LET Y'ALL TAKE THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY FOR WHATEVER Y'ALL WANT, WANT TO GIVE ME FOR IT, CAN YOU GET THIS GUY WIRE MOVED OVER? OKAY.
SO I WON'T HAVE TO DRIVE UNDER IT BECAUSE IT'S AGAINST THE LAW.
AND THAT'S THE WAY IT'S BEEN SINCE DAY ONE.
SO Y'ALL FORGIVE ME 'CAUSE IT'S FRUSTRAT, IT'S FRUSTRATING.
OKAY, WELL THEY MOVED THE TWO POLES OVER THAT THEY NEEDED TO MAKE THE CURVE AND COME ON AROUND.
AND WE'VE HAD SEVEN OR EIGHT WRECKS RIGHT THERE.
UH, THE LAST ONE WAS PROBABLY THREE OR FOUR MONTHS AGO WHERE A CORVETTE COME THROUGH.
AND IT HADN'T BEEN FROM MY GRANNY'S TREE SITTING THERE.
IT WOULD'VE BEEN RIGHT INTO THE HOUSE.
WELL, THINGS HAPPEN, THEY FLIPPED.
IF I'M GOING TO GET HOME AND I'M IN A HURRY AND IT IS TIME TO GET OFF WORK, IT TAKES ME 15 MINUTES TO GET FROM GARTH ROAD DOWN TO MY HOME, WHICH IS NOT A HALF A MILE AND GET IN MY DRIVE.
I'VE ALREADY BEEN IN A WRECK RIGHT THERE.
I LOOK BOTH WAYS JUST LIKE IT IS.
I'VE GOT A BIG OPENING RIGHT THERE.
I, I TALKED TO THE GUY AND HE GOT THAT DONE FOR ME.
I SAID, I NEED A BIG OPENING BECAUSE WE DO PULL TRAILERS OUT HERE EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE.
I'M NOT BLAMING THE CITY FOR THIS, BUT I LOOK BOTH WAYS AND I BACK OUT AND WHEN I BACK OUT, GUESS WHAT'S HAPPENED? I'VE GOT A YOUNG MAN SITTING OUT THERE IN THE MIDDLE OF THAT AND I LOOKED IN MY MIRRORS AND I LOOKED IN EVERYTHING, BUT HE HAD PULLED UP RIGHT OUTTA SIGHT UP TO THE CURB IN THE MIDDLE OF THAT.
I I DID NOT SEE TRAFFIC'S COMING THROUGH THERE.
YOU GOTTA GO WHEN IT, WHEN YOU GET AN OPENING, YOU GOTTA GO.
SO WHEN THIS DEAL CAME UP, IT, THERE'S A YOUNG MAN SITTING RIGHT HERE.
HE'S ACTUALLY THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY I TALKED WITH, I I'VE BEEN DOING, DEALING WITH HIS DAD SINCE HE BOUGHT IT FROM MY GRANDMOTHER.
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FINEST MAN YOU EVER MET IN YOUR LIFE? IT, THE DEAL WAS MADE ON A HANDSHAKE, WHICH IS OBSOLETE TODAY.I DON'T HAVE NOTHING AGAINST THAT.
YOU KNOW, IF WE NEED THAT, THAT'S FINE.
BUT THE PROBLEMS ALL START COMING UP FROM THE CITY.
IF WHAT MR. CRAWFORD WANTS, HE WANTS TO COME IN THERE RIGHT NEXT TO ME.
AND IF Y'ALL KEEP UP WITH THE BAYTOWN, WE HAVE WEST NILE VIRUS HERE PERIODICALLY.
WE'VE HAD ONE MAN DIE OVER ON SHO FROM WEST NILE.
I LOST TWO HORSES FROM WEST NILE.
I'VE GOT A FRIEND OF MINE THAT LOST A CALF FROM WEST NILE AND THEY'RE ALL, YOU KNOW, THAT'S NOT NOTHING TO Y'ALL.
Y'ALL DON'T, Y'ALL PROBABLY DON'T EVEN GET INTO THAT.
BUT THE THING ABOUT IT IS YOU TAKE YOUR RETENTION PONDS, TAKE YOUR RETENTION PONDS, Y'ALL DON'T GOVERN 'EM.
Y'ALL HAVE NOTHING TO SAY OVER 'EM.
THIS IS WHAT THE CITY HAS TOLD ME.
IT BELONGS TO TRACTOR SUPPLY OR WHOEVER.
WELL, WHEN THAT HAPPENS, I'VE GOT SOME PICTURES HERE I'D LIKE TO SHOW YOU OF DEAD DOGS AND CATS IN THESE RETENTION PONDS WITH TREES GROWING IN THEM SNAKES.
MR. FOSTER, I'M SORRY, BUT THERE'S A THREE MINUTE LIMIT AND WE NEED TO MOVE ON.
MADAM CHAIR, WOULD IT BE OKAY IF I ASKED HIM ONE QUESTION? YES.
I, I AND, AND I'M LOOKING FOR A PROACTIVE SOLUTION AND SUBDIVISIONS LIKE THIS NEED A TURN LANE AND IT WOULD MEAN GIVING UP SOME MORE OF YOUR FRONTAGE.
BUT WOULD A TURN LANE BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD SOUND GOOD TO YOU AS A SOLUTION FOR YOUR SAFETY ISSUES? NO, IT WOULDN'T BE NO GOOD TO ME.
WHAT I WANT TO KNOW IS MR. MERCEDES, WHO WAS A MEMBER OF THE COUNCIL, SAT RIGHT HERE WHEN THEY TOOK IT IMMINENT DOMAIN AND TOLD MY WIFE AND I MEAN, TOLD HER, HE SAID, LADY, WHAT, WHAT ARE YOU WORRIED ABOUT? YOU JUST BECOME COMMERCIAL PROPERTY NOW WHAT'S THIS GOING TO DO TO MY PROPERTY AGAIN? BECAUSE I CANNOT RELOCATE MY HOME.
WELL IF, IF A TRAFFIC SIGNAL WERE TO APPEAR AT THE ENTRANCE OF THAT SUBDIVISION, DO YOU THINK THAT WOULD HELP YOUR SITUATION? WE GOT TRAFFIC LIGHTS AT BOTH ENDS.
NO, I MEAN AT 'CAUSE 200 AND SOME ODD HOMES, YOU, YOU CAN'T JUST CUT IN OFF OF A 40 MILE AN HOUR ROAD AND MAKE THAT ENTRANCE SAFELY.
THERE'S GOTTA BE SOME SORT OF TURN LANE OR TRAFFIC CONTROL.
YEAH, I I'M SORRY, WE'RE WE ARE GETTING OFF AGENDA.
I'M JUST ASKING THE OWNER WHAT, WHAT, WHAT MIGHT HELP.
I THINK WE REALLY NEED TO CUT THIS OFF NOW.
SHOULD WE HAVE ANOTHER SPEAKER ON THE AGENDA MINUTE? I'M SORRY.
WELL, THIS IS NORMAL FOR BAYTOWN.
HAS ANYBODY GONE TO THE AIRPORT? LIFE FLIGHT IS OVER THERE.
ALRIGHT, WHEN HAVE Y'ALL EVER BEEN OUT TO CONROE? THIS THING LIGHTS UP.
IT LOOKS LIKE AN AIRPORT OUT UNDER NOW WE'RE GONNA BE LIVING WITH ALL THESE LIGHTS AROUND US.
NOW WHEN THOSE PLANES COME IN AND LIFE FLIGHT COMES IN, SOMEBODY BETTER DO SOME CHECKING.
'CAUSE THIS IS, SOMETHING'S GONNA HAPPEN OVER THERE.
AND THEN, AND THEN WITH THAT, AND I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY WE HAVE THIS RETAINAGE POND RIGHT NEXT TO US WHEN YOU CAN PUT IT OUT SOMEWHERE ELSE OR DO LIKE THE NURSING FACILITY.
DID THEY PUT A POND, FISH POND OUT THERE? AIR EVERYTHING? IT LOOKS GREAT.
WE KILLED TWO WATER MOS THIS THIS SUMMER ON OUR PROPERTY.
AND THEY HAD THAT MANY PEOPLE IN THIS TYPE OF HOME.
WHEN WE WENT OUT THERE, THERE WAS NO, NO PEOPLE OUR AGE OUT THERE.
THERE WAS NO KIDS RUNNING AROUND.
AND WHEN YOU GO OUT THERE, IT'S ALL CONCRETE AND THEY WANNA TAKE THAT RETAIN POND AND THEY WANNA CONCRETE THAT TOO.
OUT THERE IN CON BUT TIME IS UP.
THEY, THE MOLD AND THE MILDEW ON THE CONCRETE IS NOT BAD OUT THERE.
I PRESSURE WASHER ALL THE TIME.
SO WHO'S GONNA PRESSURE WASHER? ALL THIS CONCRETE THAT THEY'RE PUTTING IN, IT WILL NOT STAY WHITE.
EVEN THE 10 FOOT, UH, SIDEWALK Y'ALL PUT IN.
WHAT DO YOU WANNA LOOK AT? IT'S GONNA LOOK LIKE THE FREEWAY.
THEY'RE NOT GONNA LISTEN TO YOU ANYWAY.
IT'S, IT'S GONNA BE I UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT Y'ALL NEED TO GO OUT THERE AND
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LOOK AT IT.OH, WELL THERE AIN'T ONE OUT THERE.
HE SAID, HE TOLD US THAT THERE'S A RETENTION POND OUT THERE.
AND ON THE OTHER SIDE IS A GOLF COURSE THAT'S WELL TAKEN CARE OF.
THERE IS NO RETENTION POND IN CONROE.
AND IT'S OUT ON A, LIKE A, UM, UM, UM, OH SHOOT.
IT IS LANES OF TRAFFIC, 18 WHEELERS COMING THROUGH.
IT'S LIKE A COMMERCIAL WHERE THIS IS SITTING, THERE'S NO HOMES AROUND IT.
IT'S JUST THIS SITTING THERE AND BUSINESSES.
SO FOR A HOME IN, IN YOUR HOME AND YOU WANNA LIVE NEXT DOOR TO THIS? MM, NOT GOOD.
WE HAVE SOMEONE SIGNED UP ON 7 0 3 AND A HALF HUNT ROAD.
I COULDN'T READ YOUR NAME, I'M SORRY.
I LIVE AT 7 0 3 AND A HALF HUNT ROAD.
UH, IT'S ON THE NORTHWEST SIDE OF THE PROPERTY.
TIM IS, UH, BUYING OR PURCHASING AND WANNA PUT THE PRO PROJECT IN.
UH, I'M CONCERNED ALSO ABOUT HIS RETENTION POND GOING COMPLETELY AROUND US.
WE HAVE HEBS TENSION POND, WE HAVE UH, COAL'S RETENTION POND.
ALL THIS IS IN A THOUSAND FEET OF US.
USED TO, I'D GO OUTSIDE THE MOSQUITOES.
CITY OF BAYTOWN USED TO COME THROUGH THERE AND SPRAY, BUT APPARENTLY I DON'T THINK THEY'VE BEEN DOING IT HERE LATELY BECAUSE I WALK OUTSIDE AND THEY, THEY COVER YOU JUST LIKE DANNY FOSTER SAID THE
I'VE GOT GRANDKIDS AS WELL AS OTHER.
I HATE TO SEE A PRETENSION POND COMING UP RIGHT BEHIND US ALL THE WAY AROUND.
OTHER THAN THAT, I WANT TO KNOW, IS MY PROPERTY GONNA GO MF LIKE HIS IS BECAUSE WE'RE JUST A SMALL SECTION THERE THAT IS COMMERCIAL AND THAT'S OUR RETIREMENT WHEN WE SELL.
I WANNA BE ABLE TO BUILD ME ANOTHER HOUSE AND PAY CASH FOR IT.
IF IT GOES MF, UH, IT'S PROBABLY NOT GONNA SELL FOR ENOUGH TO BUILD HOUSING.
WHAT COSTS TODAY? THE HOUSING DOWN, UH, HUNT ROAD AND, AND UH, GARTH ROAD.
THEY'RE THREE AND $400,000 HOMES DOWN THERE NOW.
AND YOU KNOW, I CAN'T SEE MY PROPERTY GOING AS MF AND AS COMMERCIAL RIGHT NOW.
THAT'S WHAT I'M REALLY WORRIED ABOUT.
AND MADAM CHAIR, CAN I, A I ANSWER MR. MILLER'S? YES.
UM, MR. MILLER, YOUR PROPERTY IS NOT PART OF THIS.
THERE'S NO PLANS AT THIS TIME TO DO ANYTHING WITH YOUR PROPERTY.
THIS IS JUST, UM, MR. CRAWFORD, UH, OWNS OR HAS CONTROL OVER THIS, HIS PIECE OF PROPERTY AND NONE OTHERS AT THIS TIME.
CORRECT? SO, SO THIS DOES NOT CONCERN ANYTHING HAVING TO DO WITH
YEAH, I WAS LOOKING ON THE AGENDA AND IT SAYS 7 0 3 NEAR 7 0 3 AND IT, YOU KNOW, PAPERWORK GETS MESSED UP SOMETIMES AND SOMETIMES THAT LITTLE PIECE GETS IN WITH IT, YOU KNOW, IT JUST ALL A SUDDEN.
UH, THAT'S REALLY ABOUT THE ONLY CONCERNS I'VE GOT THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT IS MY HOMESTEAD MY WAY LIFE TO, TO BUILD ME A NEW HOME.
AND I I WANT TO MAKE SURE IT STAYS COMMERCIAL SO I CAN SELL IT COMMERCIAL AND BE, BE ENOUGH.
DO WE HAVE OTHER QUESTIONS CONCERNING THIS ISSUE? IF WE NEED TO MAKE A DECISION, CAN I ASK ONE MORE QUESTION FOR THE DEVELOPER RELATING TO TRAFFIC SAFETY? DO YOU, DO YOU SEE ANY, ANY SOLUTION, BECAUSE LIKE I SAY, YOU'LL HAVE 200 HOMES AND 200 PLUS PEOPLE COMING AND GOING OUTTA THE SUBDIVISION.
UH, DO YOU SEE ANY SOLUTIONS FOR TRAFFIC SAFETY? ANY TURN LANES, TRAFFIC LIGHTS? WHAT, WHAT DO YOU THINK WOULD BE THE BEST SOLUTION? I MEAN THE, THE SAFETY ISSUES THAT MR. FOSTER'S TALKING ABOUT ARE RELATED TO, UM, HIM HAVING TO BACK OUT OF HIS DRIVEWAY, RIGHT? AND I MEAN, HUNT ROAD IS, UH, I MEAN THE GOOD THING ABOUT BAYTOWN IS BAYTOWN HAS BUILT SOME CRAZY GREAT, UH, INFRASTRUCTURE UP IN THAT AREA.
I MEAN, IT'S AMAZING, RIGHT? SO THAT TRACK, WHAT'S BUILT UP THERE CAN HANDLE, CAN HANDLE THIS, WE BELIEVE.
UM, AND, UM, I MEAN I'VE MET WITH THE FOSTERS A COUPLE TIMES IN THEIR HOUSE.
I MET WITH MR. MILLER, UH, ONCE OR TWICE IN HIS HOUSE.
AND AGAIN, I MEAN, AS, AS FAR AS THE DETENTION POND GOES, I MEAN, UH, WE HAVE TO GET
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THE WATER TO THE FRONT OF THE PROJECT WHERE THE STORM WATER IS.SO THE STORM WATER HAS TO GO THAT DIRECTION.
AND SECONDARILY, THERE'S, THERE'S ALL KINDS OF STANDARDS IN THE ORDINANCE ABOUT HOW WE HAVE TO BUILD AND HOW, HOW FAR WE HAVE TO BE FROM THEIR PROPERTY AND OPAQUE FENCES AND LANDSCAPING.
AND THERE'S THINGS TO PROTECT, PROTECT THIS.
BUT, UM, I, I MEAN I FEEL FOR 'EM, ONE OF THE REASONS WHY, UM, NOT ONLY IS THE, IS THE, THE POND FUNCTIONAL UP THERE TO TIE IN WITH THE STORM WATER ALONG HUNT.
BUT WE WERE ALSO TRYING NOT TO PUT HOMES RIGHT UP AGAINST THEIR PROPERTY.
SO, I MEAN, I, I'VE TRIED DIFFERENT THINGS.
I'VE ASKED THEM IF THEY WANTED ME TO REZONE IT FOR COMMERCIAL FOR 'EM.
I'VE, I'VE, I'VE, I'VE DONE WHAT I, I'VE DONE WHAT I COULD.
WE ALREADY TALKING AT YOU, BUT I WANNA TELL YOU GO UP THERE AND TALKED TO THE PEOPLE.
I WENT UP THERE TO WHERE YOU WAS AT.
DO YOU KNOW WHAT THEY SAID TO ME? MR. FOSTER? I'M SORRY.
COMMISSIONER, DO I HAVE A MOTION? YOU NEED TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
WE'LL NOW CLOSE THIS PUBLIC HEARING.
ALRIGHT, QUESTIONS? THANK YOU, COMMISSIONERS.
WHAT'S YOUR FAVOR? I'M GOING WITH STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION.
DO I HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND FOR THE RECORD CAN BE VERY CLEAR ABOUT WHAT THAT MOTION IS.
WE DON'T WANT TO PURSUE LOOKING INTO THIS ANY FURTHER AND DO IT LATE.
I'D BE HAPPY TO DO THAT IF THAT'S AN OPTION.
WELL, IF YOU'D LIKE TO MAKE THAT MOTION, THAT WOULD BE RIGHT NOW THERE'S A SECOND MOTION ON TABLE.
WE HAVE TO MAKE A ON THAT MOTION BECAUSE I, I I WOULD ALL IN FAVOR PLEASE INDICATE BY SAYING HOLD UP.
YOU, YOU CAN, YOU HAVE TO VOTE ON THE MOTION TO, TO, AND IF IT'S DENIED THEN, THEN SOMEBODY ELSE CAN MAKE A MOTION.
SO THE MOTION HAS TO BE VOTED ON 'CAUSE IT'S BEEN SECONDED.
THOSE OPPOSED I WOULD, I WOULD BE OPPOSED ON THE MOTION.
COULD, IF THAT'S VOTED DOWN, I WOULD, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE TABLE THIS TO GET MORE INFORMATION.
I'M INTERESTED IN TRAFFIC SAFETY.
I THINK WE'D ALL LIKE TO SEE THOSE PRODUCTS HE MENTIONED IN OTHER PLACES IF WE COULD.
UH, I FEEL LIKE HE'S, HE'S A VERY QUALIFIED, EXPERIENCED DEVELOPER AND I DON'T WANNA LOSE HIM.
SO WE JUST MADE A MOTION TO ACCEPT, TO DENY TO, TO DENY.
AND IT WAS VOTED AGAINST THE MOTION OF DENY.
SO I WANT YOU TO KNOW WHO WAS OPPOSED TO THE DENIAL.
OPPOSED, OPPOSED TO THE, IN EVERYBODY.
BUT RICK AND I YOU CAN, YOU CAN VOTE AGAINST YOUR OWN MOTION.
SO AGAIN, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A NEW MOTION.
I'M HAPPY TO LOOK AT THIS DOWN THE ROAD.
AT THIS POINT I'D LIKE TO MAKE A NEW MOTION THAT WE TABLE THIS PENDING FURTHER INFORMATION.
UM, SO THIS MOTION GOT DENIED.
SO IT'S MF TWO CONSIDERATION, RIGHT? YES.
TO GO TO CITY COUNCIL, STILL OPEN.
IS IT, UM, NOW A RESPONSIBILITY OR OKAY, IT IS OKAY FOR US TO TALK TO CITY COUNCIL AND TELL THEM HOW WE FEEL AND WHAT, UM, CONDITIONS WE'D LIKE TO SEE.
UM, WE CAN'T TALK TO CITY COUNCIL.
WELL, I MEAN, YOU AS AN INDIVIDUAL PERSON CAN TALK TO AN INDIVIDUAL COUNCIL MEMBER, BUT NOT THE, AS A BOARD.
WOULDN'T THAT GO IN THE STOP THE REPORT TO COUNCIL IF THEY END UP, IF WE APPROVE TAKING ACTION, BUT THEY ENDED UP VOTING TO NOT TAKE ACTION.
NOW MR. PIERCE IS MAKING A MOTION TO TABLE IT FOR FOR FURTHER DISCUSSION.
THAT'S THE, THE MOTION ON THE TABLE UNLESS HE WITHDRAWS OR SECOND OR SOMEBODY EITHER HAS TO WITHDRAW IT OR SOMEBODY HAS TO SECOND IT BECAUSE A MOTION'S BEEN MADE.
EXCEPT THAT IF WE TABLE IT, WHAT ARE WE WAITING TO LEARN? BECAUSE IT'S NOT GOING TO CHANGE.
THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT HE JUST SAID, THAT HE WANTS MORE INFORMATION ON TRAFFIC.
IT'S NOT GONNA CHANGE IT'S TRAFFIC.
WHAT IT THOUGH HAPPEN DURING THE PLANNING PROCESS? YEAH.
TRAFFIC HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH, IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE MF ONE.
I THINK OUR NEXT JOB, IF WE LIKE THIS OR DON'T, IS TO TALK TO YOUR CITY COUNCIL PERSON INDIVIDUALLY.
NO, YOU CAN, WE CAN TABLE IT AND LOOK AND, AND READ WHAT WE HAVE AND THEN YOU WANNA READ THAT.
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WITHIN BEFORE WE HAVE OUR NEXT MEETING.NO, IT, IT WON'T, IT WON'T, IT WON'T GO TO COUNCIL UNTIL YOU GUYS TAKE A FINAL ACTION ON IT.
SEND OR, OR DETERMINE THAT YOU CAN'T MAKE AN ACTION ON IT AT ALL.
WHAT CAN, IF I CAN MAKE A, A SUGGESTION, IT DOES SOUND LIKE THERE'S ENOUGH CONFUSION HERE TODAY.
SO THAT IS NO LONGER AN OPTION FOR TODAY.
YOU'RE EITHER READY TO APPROVE OR YOU NEED TO CONTINUE IT.
THAT IS, THAT IS THOSE ARE YOUR CHOICES TODAY.
WELL, THERE'S A MOTION ON THE TAPE ON THE, BUT IT HASN'T BEEN SECONDED.
SO EITHER MI MR. PIERCE HAS TO WITHDRAW IT.
SO THE, THE QUESTION HERE IS DOES SOMEBODY WANT TO SECOND HIS MOTION, UH, TO POSTPONE THIS TOPIC AND BRING IT BACK AT YOUR NEXT MEETING, I ASSUME IS WHAT YOU'RE HOPING? IS THAT WHAT YOU WANT, JUDGE? THAT'S WHAT I WOULD LIKE.
I'LL ACTUALLY SECOND THAT 'CAUSE I SUGGESTED THAT A WHILE AGO.
SO I WOULD LOVE THE CHANCE TO GO OVER THIS AND UNDERSTAND IT WRONG.
OKAY, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
ARE WE READY TO VOTE? ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE INDICATE BY SAYING AYE.
OKAY, SO WE ARE MOTIONING TO POSTPONE IT? YES.
SO WHO IS IN FAVOR OF POSTPONING IT? HANDS PLEASE.
SO, UM, TAMMY, OD MITCHELL AND HELEN ARE, UM, IN FAVOR OF POSTPONING, CORRECT? YES, CORRECT.
SO, UH, MR. CRAWFORD, THIS WILL COME BACK TO THE, IS IT NOVEMBER 15TH? NOVEMBER 15TH WOULD BE THE NEXT MEETING.
YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I'M LOOKING AT.
WE'RE MOVING TO THE SECOND ZONING
[b. Conduct a public hearing and consider a request to amend the official zoning map to rezone approximately 3.02 acres of land located at 24 Ashleyville Road, from a General Commercial (GC) to a Medium Density Mixed Residential (MF1) Zoning District.]
ISSUE, WHICH IS FOUR B.CONSIDER A REQUEST TO AMEND THE OFFICIAL ZONING MAP TO REZONE APPROXIMATELY 3.02 ACRES OF LAND LOCATED AT 24 ASHLEY BE ROAD FROM A GENERAL COMMERCIAL TO MEDIUM DENSITY MIXED RESIDENTIAL MF ONE ZONING DISTRICT.
GOOD EVENING, MADAM CHAIRWOMAN COMMISSIONERS.
MY NAME IS LAMIA SALEM PLANNER TWO, THE PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.
THE PROPOSAL WE HAVE TODAY IS, UM, IS A LITTLE BIT OVER, UH, THREE ACRES OF LAND EAST OF NORTH MAIN AND SOUTH OF MASSEY TOMPKIN ROAD.
UM, IT'S, UH, HAS A FRONTAGE ON ASHLEY VILLE ROAD.
ACTUALLY IT'S AT THE TERMINUS OF VILLE ROAD WITH 52, APPROXIMATELY 52 FRONTAGE ON THIS ROAD.
THE PROPERTY AND ITS SURROUNDING, UH, PROPERTIES ARE ZONED GENERAL COMMERCIAL.
UH, IT SHOULD BE NOTED THAT, UM, A FEW EXISTING RESIDENTIAL HOMES ARE LOCATED ON, UH, ALONG, UM, ASHLEY ROAD ON THIS, UM, EAST SEGMENT OF ASHLEY ROAD.
THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP DESIGNATES THE SUBJECT PROPERTY AND ITS SURROUNDING AS LARGE SCALE COMMERCIAL, LARGE SCALE COMMERCIAL AS IDENTIFIED IN THE, UM, THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS, UH, THREE ACRES OR LARGER DEVELOPMENT.
UH, THE USES ARE, UH, PRIMARY COMMERCIAL RETAIL OFFICES, BIG BOX COMMERCIAL STORES, AUTOMOBILE, UH, SERVICES, HOTELS AND RV PARKS.
HOWEVER, EACH, UM, OR OTHER, UM, COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT HAS ITS OWN, UH, DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS THAT THEY SHOULD MEET, ALONG WITH THE LOCATION CRITERIA.
THIS IS THE, UM, THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.
IT'S CURRENTLY VACANT AND UNDEVELOPED.
UM, HERE AT THE, UH, INTERSECTION OF VILLE ROAD AND NORTH MAIN.
YOU CAN SEE THAT, UH, COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENTS ARE, UH, ALONG THE, UM, VILLE ROAD
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FROM THE NORTH AND THE SOUTH, HOWEVER, MOVING A LITTLE BIT FURTHER WHERE, UH, THE VIEW IS HERE FURTHER EAST, YOU'LL, UH, LOSE THE FEELING OF COMMERCIAL USES AND YOU'LL GET MORE RESIDENTIAL USES.THIS IS, UM, PICTURE, THE, THE FIRST PICTURE HERE IS, UM, FROM THE SUBJECT PROPERTY, AND THIS IS AN EXISTING DUPLEX ON THE, UM, JUST ADJACENT ON THE WEST SIDE.
HERE YOU SEE THE MAP ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE, UH, SUBJECT PROPERTY.
AND MOVING A LITTLE BIT FURTHER, YOU STILL SEE THAT, UM, VILLE ROAD AT THIS SEGMENT IS MORE TYPE OF RESIDENTIAL, UH, FEELING.
THIS IS THE, THE PROPOSED, UH, DEVELOPMENT.
THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING A TOTAL OF, UH, 23 UNITS, UM, ONE OF WHICH IS A SINGLE FAMILY DWELLING, UM, ADJACENT TO THE EXISTING DUPLEXES.
UM, THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING FOUR BLOCKS OF SINGLE FAMILY ATTACHED UNIT, UM, THE, ALSO THE EXTENSION OF VILLE ROAD WITH THE SAME WIDTH OF THE EXISTING RIGHT OF WAY.
SO THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO HAVE A 50 FOOT RIGHT OF WAY OR PRIVATE LANE, NOT DECIDED YET.
THEY WILL, UM, EXTEND, UM, SIDEWALKS ALONG, UM, THEIR PORTION OF THE EXTENSION OF VILLE ROAD, AND THERE COULD BE, THEY'RE OPEN TO HAVE A POSSIBLE FUTURE CONNECTION TO THE PROPERTY, TO THE EAST IN THE FUTURE.
THE APPLICANT IS ALSO PROPOSING A RECREATION CENTER AND A, UH, AN AMPLE, UH, AMPLE, UH, AMOUNT OF AMENITIES AND, UH, OPEN SPACES.
AND THAT'S WHAT THEY ARE, UH, PROPOSING TO, TO CHANGE IT FROM GENERAL COMMERCIAL TO MF ONE.
IN ORDER FOR PLANNING STAFF TO, UH, TO APPROVE, UM, THIS APPLICATION, WE HAD TO LOOK AT ALL THE CRITERIA AND WE FOUND THAT THE FIRST CRITERIA, WHICH IS THE CONSISTENCY USE GUIDING DOCUMENTS, IS NOT MET.
SO WE HAVE A, UM, AS IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN INDICATES THE LOCATION CRITERIA FOR LARGE SCALE COMMERCIAL.
OUR, UM, NUMBER ONE SHOULD BE LOCATED AT THE INTERSECTION OF TWO ARTERIAL ROADS OR A ALONG AND ARTERIAL CORRIDOR.
THE SECOND ONE SHOULD BE LOCATED AT THE INTERSECTION OF AN ARTERIAL ROADWAY AND A FREEWAY OR ALONG THE FRONTAGE OF A FREEWAY.
SO THESE TWO ARE APPLICABLE TO THE SUBJECT PROPOSAL.
THE THIRD ONE IS NOT APPLICABLE, UH, AND WE FOUND THAT, UM, THIS PROPOSAL HAS NOT MET THOSE TWO, UH, LOCATION CRITERIA FOR BEING, UH, IN A LARGE SCALE COMMERCIAL.
WE KNOW THAT THE COMPREHENSIVE, UH, TEXT AMENDMENT IS, UM, INCLUDING IS PROPOSING TO INCLUDE SOME MULTI-FAMILIES AND MORE DENSER HOUSING IN, IN LARGE SCALE COMMERCIAL.
HOWEVER, THEY HAVE TO MEET THE, UM, THE LOCATION CRITERIA FOR LARGE SCALE COMMERCIAL IN ORDER FOR US TO APPROVE THEM FOR, UH, MULTI-FAMILY, UH, DEVELOPMENTS AND OTHER, UH, CONDITIONS AND, UM, CRITERIA THAT THE TEXT AMENDMENT WILL PROPOSE IF PASSED BY COUNCIL ON, UH, OCTOBER 27.
WE ARE RECOMMENDING, UH, BASED ON THE, UM, APPLICATION DID NOT MEET THE CONSISTENCY CRITERIA WITH, UM, WITH CITY DOCUMENTS.
UM, WE ARE RECOMMENDING DENIAL.
WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANY, UH, ANY RESPONSES FROM ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS.
AND WE HAVE THE APPLICANT, UH, HERE TO, UH, TO PRESENT HER, UH, HER SIDE AS WELL.
ANYONE HAVE QUESTIONS OF THE STAFF? UH, WE HAVE SEVERAL PEOPLE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK.
THE FIRST ONE BEING JACQUELINE COLBERT.
PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.
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REPRESENTING JC AND ASSOCIATES.I AM JOINED BY TWO OF MY BUSINESS PARTNERS, RICARDO WILLIAMS AND LAURA FLAY, RESPECTIVELY.
THEY WILL BE DEFERRING THEIR TIME SUCH THAT I CAN SPEAK.
WE ALSO WANT TO BE VERY THOUGHTFUL ABOUT THE OTHER HEARINGS THAT PROCEEDED OURS, UM, AND APPEAL TO YOUR, UH, FULL ATTENTION AS THIS DENIAL HAS BEEN PROPOSED.
SO WE DO HAVE A COUPLE OF SLIDES THAT WE'D LIKE TO GO THROUGH IT.
THEY'RE SHORT AND FORM OF WHAT WE'VE SUBMITTED.
WE DID SUBMIT A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, UM, THAT I THINK HITS TO THE HEART OF WHAT THE PREVIOUS DEVELOPERS SPOKE ABOUT, AND THAT IS THE MISSING MIDDLE, UH, THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED IN THE CITY OF BAYTOWN.
IF YOU WOULD PLEASE GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE.
SO AS STATED PREVIOUSLY, I'M JACKIE COLBERT AND MY BUSINESS PARTNERS ARE HERE WITH ME.
ONE IS MISSING, BUT, UH, PRESENT IN MANY WAYS.
UH, WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU UNDERSTAND THE HEART OF WHY WE'RE TRYING TO DO THIS DEVELOPMENT IN THE CITY OF BAYTOWN.
I THINK THAT THERE ARE A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT THINGS THAT COME INTO PLAY WHEN, WHEN ONE CONSIDERS INVESTING IN BUILDING.
THE FIRST ONE FOR ME IS THAT TO, TO WHOM MUCH IS GIVEN MUCH IS REQUIRED.
I AM NOT A RESIDENT OF THE CITY OF BAYTOWN YET I COME HERE VERY OFTEN.
UM, COMING FROM AN IMMIGRANT BACKGROUND AND SPENDING TIME WITH FRIENDS AND FAMILY MEMBERS WHO HAVE A NEED, IT IS IMPORTANT THAT WE ARE THE CHANGE.
WE'RE NOT JUST INVESTING FOR THE SAKE OF, OF MAKING MONEY, BUT WE REST ON THE FACT THAT WE WANT TO CREATE BETTER FOR THE CITY OF BAYTOWN.
OUR GOAL IS TO ENHANCE AND BRIDGE THE GAP IN RENTING AND HOME OWNERSHIP WHILE BUILDING UPON THE PROMISE OF GENERATIONAL IMPROVEMENT, WHETHER IT IS THROUGH HOME OWNERSHIP THAT PEOPLE DECIDE TO BUY THESE HOMES LATER THAT WE'LL TALK ABOUT OR RENT THEM UNDERSTANDING THE MACROECONOMIC CONDITIONS THAT ARE CURRENTLY TAKING PLACE IN THE US.
AND FURTHERMORE, ACROSS THE GLOBE, I THINK THAT WE HAVE AN OBLIGATION TO THINK DEEPLY AND NOT ALLOW ONE CRITERIA POINT TO ERODE SOMETHING THAT IS QUITE NECESSARY.
LOOKING AT POPULATION GROWTH VERSUS THE HOUSING NEEDS, WE SEE BAYTOWN STEADILY EXPANDING ITS FOOTPRINT.
I WAS ONCE IN THE OIL AND GAS BUSINESS, ALTHOUGH I'M IN HIGH TECH TODAY.
AND WHAT I KNOW ABOUT THE TRAFFIC THAT COMES INTO BAYTOWN, IT HAS CONTINUED TO GROW IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT BAYTOWN IS STATED FOR, UH, 2040, WE SEE THE POPULATION FORECAST SITTING SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 102 AND 114.
I'M, I'M TALKING TO YOU ABOUT STATISTICS THAT YOU PROBABLY ALREADY ARE AWARE OF, BUT I DO WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT, UH, THESE ARE PIVOTAL POINTS IN FRONT OF YOU TODAY WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT THE HOUSEHOLD AVERAGE, BASED ON THE LATEST, UH, CENSUS BUREAU, UH, THAT WAS DONE AGAIN BY 2040 TO ACCOMMODATE THAT HOUSE.
UH, THE RESIDENTS THAT WILL BE HERE, YOU NEED A LOT MORE.
AND, AND AGAIN, THIS IS NOT MY DATA.
THIS IS OUR DATA THAT WE HAVE FOR THE CITY OF BAYTOWN.
WHAT DO WE DO TO SOLVE THE PROBLEM? WE SEE A GAP THAT NEEDS TO BE FELT.
OUR VISION IS IN ALIGNMENT WITH YOURS.
IT'S A THREE POUND APPROACH, AND IT'S, I BELIEVE THAT IT'S YOUR STRATEGIC VISION.
WE WANT TO, AGAIN, ALIGN TO THAT VISION, MAINTAINING THE INTEGRITY OF THE NEIGHBORHOODS AND BOLSTERING BAY TOWN'S IMAGE AND APPEARANCE.
THE IMAGES THAT YOU JUST SAW WAS MIXED COMMERCIAL ON ONE SIDE, RESIDENTIAL ON THE OTHER.
AND WE GET THAT, IT MIGHT'VE BEEN GRANDFATHERED, BUT IF YOU WALK THAT STREET, AND I'VE WALKED IT A COUPLE OF TIMES, AND YOU LOOK AT OUR PACKAGE, THE NEIGHBORS ON THE COMMERCIAL AS WELL AS THE RESIDENTIAL SIDE, THEY HAVE WELCOMED WHAT WE WILL DO.
WE HAVE SIGNATURES TO SUPPORT IT.
IT IS NOT SOMETHING THAT WE'RE SAYING, HEY, PEOPLE KIND OF WANNA DO THIS.
THEY'VE PUT THEIR NAMES TO IT AND IT CAN BE VALIDATED.
THE SECOND PART IS ABOUT PROMOTING DIVERSITY OF THE TYPES OF HOUSING.
I BELIEVE THAT I HEARD SOMEONE SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT? I WANT A ONE STORY.
I DON'T WANNA CLIMB THE STAIRS ANYMORE EITHER.
AND WE WANNA CREATE THE TYPE OF HOUSING THAT THAT MAKES THE NEIGHBORHOOD, AGAIN, DIVERSE AND, UH, CREATE THINGS THAT THE GENTLEMAN BEFORE SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT? IT'S HELLA PRETTY.
I SAY, OURS WILL BE HELLA PRETTY.
IT'S GONNA BE SEXY, IT'S GONNA BE GOOD BECAUSE THE FOUNDATION HAS GOTTA BE STRONG AND IT'S GOING TO MAKE BAYTOWN BETTER BECAUSE NESTLE, WITHIN ALL OF WHAT YOU SEE TODAY, CAN I BE HONEST WITH Y'ALL? IT LOOKS KIND OF OLD.
WE'RE GONNA BRING SOME NEW STUFF IN.
WE'RE BRINGING IT WITH INTEGRITY AND IT HITS TO THE HEART OF NUMBER TWO.
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A NEWER TYPE OF HOUSING THAT HAS EMERGED BETWEEN WITHIN BAYTOWN AND THE RECENT YEARS IS BUILDING TO RENT SINGLE FAMILY HOMES AND THE LIKE.AND AGAIN, THE POINT THAT I WANT TO ASSERT HERE IS THAT OUR STRATEGIC VISION IS RIGHT IN ALIGNMENT WITH YOURS.
OUR SITE PLAN WAS ALREADY SHOWN, BUT WE WANTED TO SHOW AN UPDATE.
WE'RE LOOKING AT THE FEEDBACK AND CONTINUALLY MAKING SURE THAT WE ARE NOT JUST BEING WILLY-NILLY IN OUR APPROACH.
WE'RE HEARING THE CRIES OF PEOPLE WHO SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT, THINK ABOUT HOW PEOPLE GO IN AND HOW THEY COME OUT.
THINK ABOUT THE FACT THAT YOU NEED TO HIT SEVEN KEY CRITERIA IN ORDER TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN.
AND IN OUR SITE PLAN OF THIS MULTIFAMILY COMPLEX OF ONLY 23, WITH ONE BEING INDEPENDENT, WE PLAN TO BUILD AND CREATE THE CONDITIONS THAT WILL MAKE IT NECESSARY FOR PEOPLE TO BE SAFE.
UM, HAVE A, A PLACE THAT FEELS LIKE HOME WHEN THEY WALK INTO IT OR DRIVE INTO IT WITH THE RECREATION CENTER, AMPLE SPACE FOR PLANTS AND THE LIKE, A PLACE TO BREATHE AND AN EXTENDED ROAD TO THE PUBLIC.
SO THAT'S WHAT OUR SITE PLANT HERE REPRESENTS NOW, COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDINGS.
I THINK I HIT UPON THAT ALREADY WHERE, YOU KNOW, YOU'VE SEEN, UH, THE AFORE MEN, UH, MENTIONED SPEAKER TALK ABOUT WHAT WE HAVE IN PLACE.
THE OTHER COMPONENT PART IS THAT THE DISTRIBUTION THAT WE'RE PROPOSING IS ADJACENT TO ALREADY IN RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES.
AND THAT WILL BE, IT WOULDN'T BE AWKWARD.
THESE PEOPLE HAVE SAID TO US, IT WILL BE AN EXTENSION.
AND, AND WHAT HAPPENS WHEN, WHEN YOU HAVE GOOD BEGETS? GOOD PRETTY BEGETS PRETTY BECAUSE PEOPLE WANT, IT'S LIKE HAVING THAT NEIGHBOR.
I WANNA SPEAK TO YOUR HEART HERE.
IN ADDITION TO THE PRACTICALITY AND THE LOGIC OF WHAT THE CRITERION IS ASKING FOR THAT NEIGHBOR THAT IS MAKING SURE THAT HIS OR HER YARD LOOKS REALLY NICE.
WHAT DO YOU THINK HAPPENS? IT ACCENTUATES THE CITY OF BAYTOWN PROMOTING HEALTH SAFETY IN GENERAL WELFARE.
I ALMOST BELIEVE THAT THIS SHOULD ALWAYS BE JOB NUMBER ONE, SAFETY, WELFARE AND ENSURING THAT PEOPLE ARE CARED FOR.
UM, THE OPEN SPACES, THE COMMON AND PRIVATE AMENITIES.
THERE WERE SOME QUESTIONS EARLIER THAT I WAS ATTENTIVE TO AROUND PARKING, THE ACCESS GARAGE PORCHES AND THE LIKE.
THESE ARE ALL THINGS THAT WE'RE ACCOUNTING FOR WITH THIS SPACE.
UH, WE'RE ALSO PROVIDING ADEQUATE SIDEWALK.
I THINK THAT WITHIN THE US NO ONE WOULD ARGUE ABOUT THE FACT THAT WE NEED TO MOVE MORE, BUT MOVE WITH SAFETY.
SO WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING WILL ACCOUNT FOR ALL OF THAT.
AND, AND, AND YOU SEE HERE ON THE MOCK-UP, THE RECREATIONAL, UH, CENTER OPEN SPACE, THE, THE WIDTH THAT WE WOULD PROVIDE FOR THE SIDEWALK AND ADDITIONAL CONNECTION.
IF THAT BECOMES A CONDITION, WE ARE OPEN TO DOING IT.
UM, WE ARE A SMALL GROUP JUST GETTING STARTED, BUT WE WANT TO BE THOUGHTFUL BECAUSE WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT ANYTHING THAT WE BUILD IS BUILT WITH LEGACY AND INTENTIONALITY IN MIND.
THERE'S SOME OTHER KEY POINTS THAT NEEDED TO BE, UH, FACTORED IN FACILITATION OF THE EXISTING INFRASTRUCTURE, THE EXISTING WATER WASTEWATER, STORM UTILITIES ARE ALL AVAILABLE IN AN EXTENSION OF THE UTILITIES OF ANYTHING THAT MAY NEED TO HAPPEN IN THE FUTURE.
WE'RE CHECKING THE BOX ON THAT, HOW IT AFFECTS THE NATURAL ENVIRONMENT.
WE BELIEVE THAT IT'S NET NEUTRAL.
IN FACT, OUR GOAL WOULD BE TO ADD TOPIARIES PLANTS AND THE THINGS THAT SHOULD, UM, NOT JUST ENHANCE, BUT FURTHER MAKE THE ENVIRONMENT A PLACE THAT, UM, BECOMES, UH, EVEN BETTER CONSISTENCY WITH GUIDING DOCUMENTS.
WE'VE LOOKED AT THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP THAT DESIGNATES OUR PROPERTY AS LARGE SCALE.
AND YOU'VE HEARD WHAT WAS SAID BEFORE.
SO WITH THE RISK OF BEING REPETITIVE AND, AND ADDING MORE INFORMATION THAT IS NOT NEEDED.
WE UNDERSTAND THAT THERE WILL BE A HEARING ON THE 27TH AND WE'RE HOPING THAT I, I, I MEAN THE TIMING IS A LITTLE BIT OF A CHICKEN AND AN EGG, BUT WE ARE, WE BELIEVE THAT OUR PLAN IS SOLID ENOUGH TO ACCOUNT FOR THAT MISSING MIDDLE THAT, UH, BAYTOWN IS ASKING FOR AND NEEDS COMMUNITY NEED.
OUR PROPOSED ZONE WOULD ALLOW FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF A MULTI-FAMILY DEVELOPMENT.
AND YOU'VE SAID THAT THAT'S A NEED.
UH, THE APPROVAL OF THIS PROJECT WILL DEFINITELY SOLVE FOR THE COMMUNITY GAP THAT IS NOTED IN YOUR 2025 TO 2040 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, WHICH IS CENTERED ON CREATING A RANGE OF HOUSING PREFERENCES.
I THINK, AGAIN, WE ARE MEETING A GAP BASED ON YOUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
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SO I'VE GONE KIND OF FAST.I WAS BORN IN BRITISH GUY, BUT I GREW UP IN NEW YORK CITY AND BACK IN MY MILITARY DAYS, THEY MADE ME CALL CADENCES AND YOU HAD TO GO FAST.
GOING FAST IS SOMETIMES GOOD, BUT I THINK THAT SOMETIMES YOU GOTTA GO SLOW TO GO FAST.
SO HERE'S WHAT I LEAVE YOU WITH.
PEOPLE ARE IN TRANSITION IN THE CITY, YOUR PLAN, AND I'VE SPENT A LOT OF TIME ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE LOOKING AT WHAT THE NEEDS ARE AND WHAT THE GAPS ARE STANDING BEFORE YOU.
WITH MY BUSINESS PARTNERS, WE STAND ON THE PROMISE OF LOOKING AT THE POPULATION, THE DIVERSITY IN THIS CITY, THE LEGACY THAT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE PART OF AND APPEAL TO YOUR LOGIC AND SENSIBILITIES TO TAKE THOUGHTFUL CONSIDERATION TO WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING.
WE RECOGNIZE THAT WE MAY NOT HAVE ALL SEVEN, THAT THERE'S ONE OUT OF SEVEN THAT, THAT THAT NEEDS TO BE SQUARED UP WITH.
BUT I CALL UPON YOU TO THINK ABOUT THIS VERY SMALL PIECE OF LAND COMPARED TO, I THINK IT WAS 35 ACRES THAT WAS BEING PROPOSED AND THAT NO ONE HAS SHOWED UP HERE.
AT LEAST I DON'T KNOW WHO ELSE IS BEHIND ME SAYING NO TO THIS.
OUR, UH, LAIER, WHO'S MS. LAIER WHO'S BEEN WORKING WITH US, HAS SAID THAT THERE MIGHT BE SOME THINGS THAT YOU WOULD HAVE TO DO DIFFERENTLY THAT IS OKAY, DIFFERENT IS OKAY, EVEN WHEN IT IS HARD.
SO I LEAVE YOU TODAY IN THINKING ABOUT THE FACT THAT WITHIN OUR CRITERIA, WE HAVE LAID OUT A PLAN THAT WE ARE OPEN TO MAKING ADJUSTMENTS THAT MAKE SENSE FOR THE ENVIRONMENT IN AND AROUND US.
I LEAVE YOU AGAIN THINKING ABOUT THAT THE MISSING MIDDLE NEEDS TO BE CARED FOR.
AND I LEAVE YOU WITH THE THOUGHT OF KNOWING THAT WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO REDEFINE AND DO BETTER FOR BAYTOWN.
AND I THANK YOU FOR TAKING THE TIME TO LISTEN TO OUR CASE.
ANYBODY HAVE QUESTIONS? SO AT CITY COUNCIL, THEY'RE GONNA VOTE WHETHER RESIDENTIAL DWELLINGS CAN BE INCLUDED IN LARGE SCALE COMMERCIAL ON THE 27TH.
AND IF SO, THEN THIS WOULD BE APPROPRIATE AND IF NOT, IT WOULDN'T.
BUT THEN THAT, THAT CRITERIA FOR WHERE WE WANT THE RESIDENTIAL TO BE.
AGAIN, WE'RE LIMITED TO WHAT WE ARE EXPECTING, UH, LARGE SCALE RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENTS TO LOOK LIKE.
RIGHT? SO A 35 ACRE DEVELOPMENT SHOULD BE LOCATED ALONG AN ARTERIAL AND A COLLECTOR ROADWAY.
IN THIS CASE, WE ARE AT THE END OF A ROADWAY CONTINUING AN EXISTING CHARACTER, AND IT'S ONLY THREE ACRES.
SO AGAIN, THE CONTEXT JUST DOESN'T QUITE FIT PERFECTLY.
SO WE ARE KIND OF WHERE WE ARE.
I HAVE, I REALLY LIKE YOUR PRODUCT, AND I THINK YOU'RE RIGHT.
BAYTOWN NEEDS PRODUCT LIKE THIS.
I'M CONCERNED AT YOUR LOCATION THAT IS A TINY LITTLE ROAD.
AND PEOPLE NIGHT PARK LIKE COME HOME FROM WORK AND THEY PARK UP AND DOWN THAT STREET.
AND IF YOU'RE ADDING MORE NEIGHBORS TO THAT SMALL LITTLE STREET, I WOULD BE SO FRUSTRATED IF I WENT IN AND BOUGHT YOUR BEAUTIFUL PRODUCT AND HAD TO PING PONG MY WAY TO MY HOME AT THE END OF MY WORK DAY.
SO I THINK YOUR PRODUCT IS GREAT.
COULD YOU POSSIBLY MAYBE TAKE IT TO A DIFFERENT PART OF TOWN OR A DIFFERENT PIECE OF PROPERTY? I, I'D LIKE TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION IN A COUPLE OF WAYS.
I, I I'M CONCERNED THAT THE CITY HASN'T DONE ANYTHING TO HELP WITH THAT STREET JUST YET.
I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A MORE OF A, A DETAILED DIALOGUE ABOUT THAT, ABOUT HOW I CAN HELP TO SUPPORT THAT BECAUSE THERE'S LOTS OF WORK THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE THERE.
I'M WIDENING WHERE MY, UM, LAND IS LOCATED.
HOW CAN WE PARTNER TOGETHER? I'M TALKING ABOUT BETTER TOGETHER HERE.
I WOULDN'T WANT TO CREATE SOMETHING THAT IS GOING INTO MY LAND AND HAVE THE FOLKS THAT ARE FOREFRONT OF ME NOT HAVE THE SAME BENEFIT.
THE BEAUTY SHOULD BE SHARED ALL THE WAY AROUND.
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SO THAT'S NOT ON THE AGENDA, BUT I THINK THAT'S A DIFFERENT CONVERSATION BECAUSE THOSE RESIDENTS HAVE SAID THAT.THEY'RE LIKE, WOW, WE'RE JAZZED ABOUT WHAT YOU WANNA DO.
HOW IS THE CITY GONNA HELP? I WANNA HELP.
THAT'S WHAT I DO IN MY BUSINESS.
LET'S, LET'S BE SOLUTIONS ORIENTED AND, AND STAY WITH HERE'S WHAT I THINK WHAT IS POSSIBLE, WHAT IS POSSIBLE, FOLKS, NOT WHAT IS IMPOSSIBLE.
I THINK THAT THERE'S A FIX FOR THAT STREET.
IF I HAD THE OWNERSHIP OF THAT STREET AND FOLKS WANT GO DOWN THERE AND TALK TO THEM, LET'S LOOK AT WHAT'S POSSIBLE.
I, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A COMMENT AS WELL.
I ALSO, I THINK IT'S, IT'S VERY IMPORTANT YOU SAID SOMETHING AND TO THE, I DON'T REMEMBER EXACTLY, BUT TO THE EFFECT OF, UM, IF YOU BUILD SOMETHING NICE, NICER THINGS WILL COME.
AND YOU KNOW, I'VE, I'VE LIVED MY WHOLE LIFE IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD BEHIND US.
AND, AND I THINK IT'S TRUE BECAUSE ONCE SOMEBODY STARTS PUTTING GARDEN IN OR PAINTING THEIR HOUSE, NEXT PERSON STARTS PAINTING THEIR HOUSE.
AND, AND THERE'S A SORT OF COMMUNITY PRIDE AND, AND SEEING THIS IN AN AREA THAT RIGHT NOW, THAT THAT PLACE IS NOT GENERATING ANY KIND OF, UM, SIGNIFICANT TAX BASE.
I, I THINK THAT AND, AND SEEING THE PICTURES OF THE STREET AND THEN NO OFFENSE TO ANYBODY WHO LIVES ON THAT STREET.
I THINK IT'S, IT'S, UH, SEVERAL FACTORS.
I I THINK PROJECTS LIKE THIS DO SERVE A COMMUNITY TO, TO BETTER THE AESTHETICS AND BETTER THE COMMUNITY AND THE CULTURE OF A COMMUNITY.
AND, AND THAT'S THE KIND OF STREET THAT CREATES A COMMUNITY.
I, I, I THINK YOU HAVE A, I LIKE YOUR IDEA.
THERE'S, THERE'S A GREAT WOMAN WHO WROTE A BOOK.
HOW DO WE CREATE A RIPPLE EFFECT IN THE CITY OF BAYTOWN THAT I COME TO EVERY MOB TO DO DRUMMING OR DANCING, YOU KNOW, MY RECREATIONAL STUFF ON THE SIDE WITH, WITH THE GOOD FOLKS OF BAYTOWN AND SPEND MY MONEY HERE AND ALLOW FOR MORE TAXES TO DO SOME OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE WORK THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE IN THE CITY OF BAYTOWN.
I WANT US TO THINK ABOUT THE POSSIBILITIES HERE.
ANYBODY ELSE? PARKING? UH, IT, IT APPEARS YOUR DRIVEWAYS ARE ONLY BIG ENOUGH FOR ONE CAR.
NO, THEY, THEY WILL BE BIG ENOUGH TO TWO THAT YOU ARE LOOKING AT AN ORGANIZATION THAT'S OPEN.
WE WILL HAVE TWO PER HOUSE ACCORDING TO THE CODE.
WE'LL HAVE TO PROVIDE FOR THAT.
GIVEN THE SIZES INSIDE PROPERTY LINES OR JUST TOTAL, YOU KNOW, BETWEEN THE GARAGE AND THE STREET, YOU'LL HAVE TWO, TWO WITH AN ADDITIONAL, I BELIEVE CODE ASKED FOR AT LEAST 10% MORE TO ACCOUNT FOR VISITORS.
AND WE ARE, WE ARE ACCOUNTING IN FOR THAT BECAUSE I, I ALWAYS SEE THAT THE AVERAGE HOME HAS FOUR AND A HALF CARS.
I, I'M SEEING IT IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD AND, AND EVERYTHING AND, AND THE BOAT HAPPEN.
BE BUILDING PARKING LOTS INSTEAD OF THOUSAND.
SHOULD, SHOULD THIS PROJECT BE APPROVED? UH, FOR THE ZONING WHEN WE GET TO THE DEVELOPMENT STAGE? AGAIN, THAT IS A REQUIREMENT THEY WILL HAVE TO MEET.
THERE'S, THERE'S NO CHOICE IN THAT.
SO THE, THE REVIEW WILL, WILL REQUIRE THAT.
SO, SO THE SHADED AREA, WAS THAT A GARAGE? I'M, I'M JUST LOOKING AT THE DRAWING.
WHICH ONE, WHICH ONE ARE WE LOOKING AT IN YOUR, IN YOUR PLANT MAP? YOU'VE GOT A, A DRIVEWAY WITH A, A SHADED AREA IN FRONT.
SO THAT'S, UH, TWO PARKING, TWO PARKING SPOTS AVAILABLE.
I I WHAT IS THE SHADED AREA? WHICH ONE OF THE THE GARAGE? YES, THE GARAGE FOR FOR TWO CARS, UH, PARKING.
SO YOU'D HAVE A FRONT, A GARAGE, WHICH IS THE SHADED AREA, PLUS THE DRIVEWAY FOR THE CARPORT.
ANYONE ELSE? I'D LIKE TO MOVE FOR APPROVAL FOR CLOSED IT.
AND WE'RE NOT QUITE THERE YET.
WE HAVE TWO OTHER PEOPLE SIGNED UP.
DO THEY GIVE YOU A TIME? THEY'VE CONCEDED THEIR TIME TO ME.
SO, SO AGAIN, STAFF WOULD REMIND YOU THAT WE, WE HAVE A SIMILAR SITUATION, BUT DIFFERENT TO THE LAST ITEM.
AGAIN, THIS IS AN MF ONE REQUEST, WHICH, UM, WHICH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, THE LAND USE MAP.
I THINK AS, UM, COMMISSIONER SCOTT, UM, POINTED OUT THE, THE, UM, THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP DOES NOT SUPPORT THIS LOCATION.
IT'S LESS OF A NEED ISSUE, WHICH WE HAD IN THE OTHER ONE WHERE THE LOCATION WAS MAYBE, OKAY, THIS IS, THIS IS DIFFERENT.
SO, UM, JUST REMINDING YOU OF THAT AND ALSO REMINDING YOU OF THE SAME THING OF THE LAST ONE.
SO WHILE AGAIN, WE DON'T QUESTION THE APPLICANT'S INTENT, UM, THINGS CHANGE.
SO UNDERSTAND THAT IF YOU LIKE THIS DESIGN, YOU'RE NOT APPROVING THIS DESIGN.
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AS I UNDERSTAND IT, UM, YOU MADE A COMMENT THAT YOU MAY HAVE TO CHANGE SOME THINGS OR COULD CHANGE SOME THINGS POTENTIALLY TO MEET THE STAFF'S APPROVAL.DID I HEAR THAT CORRECTLY? MM-HMM
NOT FOR THE REASON THAT THAT WOULD COME.
I THINK WHAT WAS REFERENCING, UM, MIA'S COMMENTS TO HER WOULD BE THAT, THAT WHEN YOU GET INTO DESIGN AND THINGS LIKE THAT AND HOW THINGS ARE GONNA, UM, UH, FUNCTION, THEN WE WOULD HELP THEM KIND OF GET THROUGH THAT, THAT PROCESS.
AGAIN, IT'S, IT'S MORE ABOUT DESIGN.
AND I, I GUESS IT'S ALSO WORTH PROBABLY POINTING OUT THAT IF AL UH, VILLE ROAD IS A MAJOR ISSUE AT THIS TIME, THERE ARE NO COMMITMENTS FROM THE CITY TO DO ANYTHING WITH VILLE ROAD.
SHOULD THAT BE SOMETHING THAT WANTS TO BE PURSUED? IT COULD POSSIBLY COME LATER, BUT RIGHT NOW THAT'S NOT ON THE TABLE.
AND SO IN THE, YOUR, YOUR WHOLE MESSAGE WAS ABOUT INCLUSION AND HELPING EVERYONE.
AND THEN YOU CALL THE PEOPLE, THE HOUSE IS OLD AND OUR STOCK, A LOT OF IT IS OLDER.
AND SO A LOT OF THE OLDER HOMES ARE ON VILLE.
AND SO WHAT ARE, IS YOUR GROUP GONNA DO, MAYBE TO PLANT SOME TREES OR PUT SOME ADDITIONAL FLOWERS OR LEADING UP TO YOUR, DEVELOP YOUR BEAUTIFUL DEVELOPMENT AT THE END ON THAT STREET.
I THINK THAT THAT ADDRESSED, UH, AND CONNECTED TO THE POINT THAT YOU MADE EARLIER.
IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT SEGMENTING.
I I THINK IT'S, UH, INCLUSION AND BELONGING AND MAKING INDIVIDUALS FEEL AS THOUGH THEY BELONG IN AN AREA.
COMES FROM DOING THINGS THAT INTEGRATES THEM INTO IT.
UM, I, I THINK IT'S, IT'S, IT'S AN EXPERIENTIAL, UH, SITUATION.
AND THAT SHORT ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION IS YES, OKAY.
WE WANT TO DO THAT AND WE WILL INCLUDE THE CURRENT, BECAUSE IT WON'T JUST BE IMPORTANT TO THE FOLKS WHO ARE THERE TODAY, BUT IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT FOR THE, THE FOLKS WHO WILL NOW BE LIVING THERE IN THAT THEIR DRIVE UP EXPERIENCE TO HOME IS A GOOD ONE.
SO WE'D LIKE TO, TO MAKE THIS AGAIN, WE ARE ALL ABOUT WHAT ARE THE POSSIBILITIES AND HOW DO WE MAKE THIS HAPPEN SUCH THAT EVERYONE THAT IS, THAT IS WITHIN CLOSE PROXIMITY, INCLUDING THE COMMERCIAL, UM, OWNERS WHO WE HAVE SPOKEN TO AND HAVE BEEN PARTNERING TO KEEP THE LAND MO GET IT MOWED, GET IT CLEAN.
THEY ARE EQUALLY EXCITED BECAUSE WHAT ARE THE FRINGE BENEFITS FOR COMMERCIAL BUSINESSES? THEY GET MORE BUSINESSES WHEN MORE RESIDENTS ARE IN CLOSE PROXIMITY TO THEM.
ANYBODY ELSE? ARE WE READY? ARE WE CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING? NO.
WE'RE NOW CLOSE TO PUBLIC HEARING AND I'D LIKE TO MOTION.
AUGUSTINE AND HELEN, UH, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
ALL IN FAVOR? DO WE HAVE OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE INDICATE BY SAYING AYE.
YOU WANNA DO A VOICE THOUGH? YOU RAISE YOUR HAND.
ALL OPPOSED? ALL IN FAVOR? NAS, RAISE YOUR HAND PLEASE.
ALL IN FAVOR? WHAT DID WE DO AT THE TOP? DID YOU HAVE, YOU DIDN'T, YOU DIDN'T CALL FOR, UH, THE OPPOSITE.
SINCE WE HAVE WITHDRAWN C WE ARE NOW TO DIRECTOR'S REPORT
[a. Receive a report from the Planning Director.]
FIRST.WOULD YOU, UM, ADVANCE THAT TO THE NEXT SLIDE AND HIT IT AGAIN? PERFECT.
SO WE HAVE HAD SOME ITEMS, UM, THAT HAVE THESE, UH, I'LL JUST SAY THESE HAVE ALL BEEN APPROVED.
SO, UH, SINCE OUR LAST MEETING, CITY COUNCIL HAS TAKEN ACTION ON, UH, 8,200 NORTH MAIN.
THIS WAS A SPECULATIVE REZONE, UH, FROM OR TO GC.
UM, WE HAD THE SECOND PORTION OF THE BAY CREEK, UH, REZONE, WHICH WAS THE SUBDIVISION THAT WE APPROVED THE FIRST HALF OF LAST YEAR.
UM, THIS IS 55 AND A HALF ACRES.
THIS WAS ANNEXED AND ZONED THE APPROVAL, UM, ZONED TWO, SF TWO, UH, 64, 55 EAST I 10 THAT IS 40 ACRES, UH, IS A SPECULATIVE REZONE TO GC, UH, THAT WAS ALSO APPROVED.
AND 7 0 6 EAST CEDAR BAYOU LYNCHBURG, WHICH IS, UH, THAT YOU MIGHT REMEMBER THAT ONE'S THE
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TWO ACRES AT THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF, UH, CEDAR BAY LYNCHBURG IN BARLOW.THIS WAS AN INSURANCE OFFICE THAT WAS GONNA GO INTO AN EXISTING HOUSE THAT WAS APPROVED.
UM, AND THEN WE HAD TWO BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT ITEMS THAT WENT LAST WEEK.
UH, 33 18 CROSBY, CEDAR BAYOU, UH, WAS A VARIANCE TO ALLOW A BARN BIGGER THAN THE HOUSE.
SO IT'S BASICALLY AN ACCESSORY STRUCTURE BIGGER THAN THE PRIMARY STRUCTURE, UM, THAT WAS APPROVED.
AND THEN 7,300 EAST I 10 WAS A SPECIAL EXCEPTION TO REDUCE A SETBACK FLOOR, A WAREHOUSE IN A GC ZONE.
THOSE ARE A HUNDRED FOOT SETBACKS.
UM, CONSIDERING WHERE THEY WERE AT, THEY HAD ASKED TO REDUCE ONE SIDE TO 15 FEET AND ADD IN A WHOLE BUNCH MORE LANDSCAPING AND BUFFERING THAT WAS ALSO APPROVED.
UM, I AM GOING TO IN A SECOND GIVE, UM, CHRIS A LITTLE BIT OF MY TIME, BUT I DID WANT TO CLARIFY SOMETHING THAT COMMISSIONER WINFREY ASKED EARLIER.
SO THE QUESTION YOU ASKED WAS, SHOULD, IS THE NEXT STEP THAT WE SHOULD TALK TO OUR COUNCIL MEMBERS ABOUT WHAT, WHAT HAPPENED HERE TONIGHT REGARDING THAT ONE ITEM? UM, WHILE THAT'S NOT, UM, NOT ILLEGAL OR UNETHICAL IN ANY WAY, I WANT TO REMIND YOU THAT YOU'RE AN INDEPENDENT ADVISORY BOARD.
UM, YOUR JOB IS TO PROVIDE YOUR OPINION.
CITY COUNCIL WILL GET THEIR CHANCE TO PROVIDE THEIR OPINION.
SO I FEEL THAT, UM, AGAIN, IT'S JUST A REMINDER.
YOU SHOULD GENERALLY ALREADY KIND OF KNOW WHICH DIRECTIONS YOUR CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS LEAD.
AND I DON'T WANT YOU TO IGNORE THAT.
I WANT YOU TO CONSIDER THAT AS PART OF YOUR OWN, UM, OPINION GATHERING PROCESS, WHATEVER THAT IS, WHATEVER THAT MEANS TO YOU.
SO DEFINITELY CONSIDER THEIR GENERAL OPINIONS IN YOUR THOUGHT PROCESS, BUT I WOULD NEVER SUGGEST YOU GO TO THEM AND ASK WHICH DIRECTION THEY WOULD.
THEY WOULD OH, NO, NOT AT ALL.
SO, UH,
SO RATHER THAN TELL YOU WHAT TO DO, I'M GOING TO ENCOURAGE YOU TO SEEK OUT INFORMATION FROM STAFF, SEEK OUT INFORMATION.
UM, IF YOU NEED TO GO ONLINE OR LOOK UP THE APPLICANTS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THEN, THEN THAT'S GREAT.
AND IF WE NEED TO GATHER MORE INFO FOR YOU, WE'RE HAPPY TO DO THAT.
UM, BUT AT THIS STAGE IN THE PROCESS, I WOULD RECOMMEND NOT GOING TO THE CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS INDIVIDUALLY WITH IT.
AGAIN, YOU CAN IF YOU FEEL THAT THAT'S ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY, BUT I, I WOULD RECOMMEND AGAINST IT.
UM, AND SORRY IF I'VE MADE THAT SOUND LIKE THAT WAS THE INTENT.
IT WAS JUST I WOULD TALK TO MY CITY COUNCIL PERSON AND THAT'S IT.
BUT I, I MEAN, IN THIS STAGE, YOU'RE NOT JUST A CITIZEN.
YOU ARE PART OF, UH, AN ADVISORY BOARD.
SO, UM, SAYING THAT THE, THE RULES ARE NOT DIFFERENT, BUT THEY'RE, THE EXPECTATIONS ARE DIFFERENT, I THINK.
I HOPE THAT HELPS A LITTLE BIT.
IF THERE WAS ANY CONFUSION, TRYING TO BE HELPFUL.
AND WITH THAT, I'M GOING TO GIVE SOME OF MY TIME TO CHRIS.
SO AS YOU KNOW, IN 2017, WE ANNEXED THE NUMBER OF PROPERTIES THAT TURNED TO TURNED OUR CITY, UH, DISTRICTS TO OR, SO WE HAVE STARTED A CITY SPONSORED REZONING FOR THE AREA THAT IS LOCATED BETWEEN NORTH MAINE AND, AND SHO ALONG THE BLUE HERON PARKWAY ON THE SOUTHERN SIDE.
AND THAT PART TO PARTICULAR RE THAT PARTICULAR AREA IS, UH, FACING SOME DEVELOPMENT PRESSURES.
SO STAFF IS LOOKING AT IT, UM, TO BRING YOU GUYS SOME OPTIONS, UM, FOR THAT PARTICULAR AREA.
UH, WE HAVE DONE A COMMUNITY MEETING, WHICH WE CONDUCTED LAST NIGHT.
SO WE GOT SOME FEEDBACK FROM THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS.
UH, SO IN THE NEAR FUTURE HERE, YOU'LL BE, UH, WE'LL BE REACHING OUT TO YOU TO, UH, DISCUSS THIS CORRIDOR AND FIGURE OUT, UM, WHAT YOU ALL, UM, SEE, UH, FIT FOR THAT PARTICULAR CORRIDOR, UM, AS WELL.
JUST WANTED TO SHARE THAT WITH YOU.
IT'S NORTH MAIN TO SHO BETWEEN NORTH MAIN ON SOUTH SIDE OF 10, ACTUALLY NOT NORTH MAIN.
I'M SORRY, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT BARCA LUTHER SLANDER.
UM, SO YEAH, THE PRESIDENT OF CHAPARRAL CAME OUT.
WE HAD ABOUT 30 PARTICIPANTS, UM, TO GIVE US SOME REALLY GOOD FEEDBACK.
WE'RE GOING TO ASSESS THAT FEEDBACK AND THEN, UM, SHARE THAT WITH YOU ALL.
UM, AND THEN EVENTUALLY GET INTO A FORUM WHERE WE'LL TAKE OR HAVE FORMAL PRESENTATION IN ACTION WITH YOU ALL.
I HAVE NOTHING ELSE TO REPORT.
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OH, I'M SORRY.