Aug 25, 2022 CITY COUNCIL WORK SESSION

[ CITY OF BAYTOWN NOTICE OF MEETING CITY COUNCIL WORK SESSION THURSDAY, AUGUST 25, 2022 5:30 P.M. COUNCIL CHAMBER, CITY HALL 2401 MARKET STREET, BAYTOWN, TEXAS 77520 AGENDA CALL TO ORDER AND ANNOUNCEMENT OF QUORUM ]

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SO WHEN I CALL THIS MEETING THE BAYTOWN CITY COUNCIL WORK SESSION TO ORDER, IT IS, UH, 5 34.

WE DO HAVE A QUORUM.

WE ARE IN BAYTOWN CITY HALL.

COUNCIL CHAMBERS, ITEM ONE A IS TO RECEIVE

[a. Receive a presentation and discuss the Annual Residential Solid Waste Collection, Disposal, and Recycling Services Contract for the City of Baytown with Best Trash, LLC.]

SO, FIRST IT HAS MR. SEMINO.

I'M ASSUMING YOU HAVE MAYBE SOME COMMENTS, AND THEN WE'LL, WE'LL GO INTO PRESENTATION.

UH, CITY MANAGER, YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS OR? OKAY.

UH, SO, UH, GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNSEL.

UM, TONIGHT YOU'LL BE CONSIDERING, UH, UM, A APPROVAL OF A SOLID WASTE CONTRACT.

SO I WANTED TO TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO KIND OF EXPLAIN THE PROCESS WE WENT THROUGH, UH, OUR CURRENT, YOU KNOW, SERVICE AND THE, UH, PROPOSED SERVICE UNDER THE NEW CONTRACT.

SO, UH, SO I'LL START BY, UH, FIRST, UH, REVIEWING THE CURRENT SERVICE.

WE HAVE IT, UH, ON THE SOLID WASTE OR TRASH COLLECTION.

IT'S, UH, TWO TIMES PER WEEK, EITHER MONDAY, THURSDAY, OR TUESDAY.

FRIDAY.

AND, UM, UNLIMITED COLLECTION IN BAGS, WE HAVE RECYCLING ONCE PER WEEK AND A 95 GALLON CART, WHICH, UH, YOU HAVE SHOWN HERE BEFORE YOU ON, ON YOUR RIGHT.

UH, AND THEN THE BULK COLLECTION IS TWICE PER WEEK, AND THAT IS, THERE'S NO LIMIT ON THAT.

UH, BRUSH COLLECTION IS HANDLED BY THE CITY, UH, ONCE PER MONTH.

UH, SO THE ER CURRENT SERVICE IS PROVIDED BY WASTE MANAGEMENT, UH, WHOSE CONTRACT EXPIRES IN ON DECEMBER 1ST.

AND THE CURRENT RATE PER HOUSEHOLD PER MONTH IS $27 AND 2 CENTS.

OKAY.

SO, AS I SAID, WE WENT THROUGH A, UH, PROCUREMENT PROCESS TO, UH, BECAUSE THE CURRENT CONTRACT IS EXPIRING, UH, THE CITY ENGAGED A, UM, UH, CONSULTANT SOLID WASTE SPECIALIST, AND THEY HELPED US DRAW UP, UH, A PROPOSED CONTRACT AND ASSISTED US WITH THE PROCUREMENT.

UH, WE HAD A KICKOFF MEETING IN MAY, AND THEN, UH, IN JUNE, WE MADE A PRESENTATION TO COUNCIL.

AND SO WE, UH, COLLECTED, UH, WELL, THE, UH, THE PROPOSAL THAT WE PUT OUT FOR BID HAD TWO OPTIONS, AND THE INTENT WAS, UM, ON THE FIRST OPTION TO HAVE AS SIMILAR SERVICE AS WE CURRENTLY HAVE RIGHT NOW.

UH, REALIZING THERE ARE SOME, YOU KNOW, UH, SLIGHT CHANGES THAT WE HAD TO MAKE IN THE CONTRACT TO, IN ORDER TO ATTRACT BIDDERS.

SO PRIMARILY THE, UH, THE UNLIMITED BULK COLLECTION WE SAW AS NOT BEING SUSTAINABLE AND, UH, NOT, WE WOULD NOT RECEIVE BIDS IF WE LEFT THAT IN THERE.

SO, UM, SO OPTION ONE WAS, UH, GARBAGE COLLECTION TWICE WEEKLY WITH A 10 BAG LIMIT, AS OPPOSED TO, LIKE, SAY THE UNLIMITED, UH, OPTION WE HAVE NOW.

AND THE COLLECTION WOULD REMAIN EITHER A MONDAY, THURSDAY OR TUESDAY.

FRIDAY.

UH, NOW OPTION TWO, UH, RECOGNIZES SOME OF THE CHANGES IN THE INDUSTRY, UH, THAT ARE GOING TO CART ONLY COLLECTION.

AND SO OPTION TWO SAYS THAT THE GARBAGE WOULD BE COLLECTED, UH, TWICE PER WEEK IN A 95 GALLON CART, AND THAT COULD BE MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY.

UH, AND THEN UNDER THAT OPTION, WE OFFERED THE OPTION OF THE CUSTOMER BUYING A PINK TAG, WHICH WOULD ALLOW THEM TO GET A COLLECTION OF TRASH BAGS OUTSIDE OF THE CONTAINER.

AND WITH EITHER OF THOSE OPTIONS, THE RECYCLING WOULD ESSENTIALLY REMAIN UNCHANGED, UH, ONCE WEEKLY IN A NINE FIVE GALLON CART.

UH, THE BULK, LIKE I SAY, WAS LIMITED, UH, TO ONCE WEEKLY WITH A FOUR CUBIC YARD LIMIT.

AND, UH, THERE WAS ALSO, WE WANTED TO PUT IN A, UH, YOU KNOW, A FEE, UH, FOR UNUSUAL ACCUMULATIONS.

AND, UM, SO THAT WAS INCLUDED IN THE BID.

UH, WE ALSO HAD IN THERE HOW, UH, RATES WOULD BE ADJUSTED.

UH, AND SO WE PUT IN THERE, IT WOULD USE THE BUREAU OF LABOR STATISTICS, GARBAGE AND TRASH INDEX AND FUTURE ADJUSTMENT WOULD BE CAPPED AT 4%.

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WE HAD 11 FIRMS, UH, ATTEND THE MEETING.

AND ACTUALLY, WHEN WE OPENED BID TWO RE, UH, TWO FARMS RESPONDED, UH, BOTH WASTE MANAGEMENT, THE CURRENT, UH, PROVIDER AND BEST TRASH.

AND SO WE HAD, UH, THE SCORING PROCESS, UH, WAS BASED ON QUALIFICATIONS AS WELL AS, UH, PRICE.

AND YOU SEE SOME OF THE CRITERIA HERE, UH, INCLUDE, YOU KNOW, COMPLIANCE TO THE PROPOSAL, UH, THE CLARITY OF THE PROPOSAL EXPERIENCE, UM, THE PERSONNEL WHO WOULD PROVIDE THE SERVICE, UH, OPERATIONAL PLAN, TRANSITION PLAN, CUSTOMER SERVICE, AND FINANCIAL STRENGTH.

UH, THE EVALU THE PROPOSALS WERE EVALUATED BY COMMITTEE, AND THEY HAD A POTENTIAL OF 80 POINTS FOR A PERFECT SCORE.

UH, AND THE PRICE INCLUDED 20 POINTS.

SO YOU GOT TWO COMPONENTS TO THE SCORE.

UH, ON THE, UH, BIDS WE HAD, UH, WASTE MANAGEMENT SUBMITTED, UH, A NO BID FOR OPTION ONE AND OPTION TWO, THEY SUBMITTED A BID OF $31 AND 16 CENTS, UH, PER HOUSEHOLD PER MONTH.

UH, BEST TRASH ON OPTION ONE SUBMITTED A BID OF $23 AND OPTION TWO OF $28 AND 80 CENTS.

AND SO, LIKE I SAY, WITH BOTH THE, UH, PRICE CONSIDERATION AND THE, UH, UH, WRITTEN, UH, EVALUATION, THE SCORES CAME IN, UH, FOR OPTION, UH, ONE WITH, UM, SO THAT WAS, UH, 78 POINTS FOR BOTH OPTIONS ON FOR BEST TRASH BECAUSE THEY, THEY WERE BEST ON THE PRICE COMPONENT.

SO, UH, WASTE MANAGEMENT OFFERED AN OPTION TO, UM, UH, THE BID, AND THAT WAS TO, UM, REDUCE THE, UH, BULK COLLECTION TO EVERY OTHER WEEK.

AND I HAD A, A REDUCED PRICE OF $29 AND 57 CENTS PER MONTH.

UH, BEST TRASH OFFERED AN OPTION FOR, UH, WHICH WAS ESSENTIALLY AN OPTION TWO, OPTION ONE, WHICH IS THE BAG COLLECTION, UH, WITH THE, THE ONLY CHANGE BEING THAT THEY WOULD COLLECT THE RECYCLING IN A 65 GALLON CART.

AND SO I BROUGHT BOTH OF THOSE CARTS IN TODAY SO YOU COULD SEE WHAT THE DIFFERENCE IS IN THE SIZES.

UH, SO THE ONE ON YOUR LEFT IS A 65 GALLON CART.

UH, BEST TRASH ALSO HAD SOME OTHER OPTIONS FOR JUST DIFFERENT COMBINATIONS OF, UH, CART COLLECTION, SO DIFFERENT SIZES AND PRICES.

UM, SO WE CONDUCTED, UH, INTERVIEWS AND, UM, WITH BOTH FIRMS. UH, WASTE MANAGEMENT, OF COURSE, HAS, UH, SERVICED THE CITY FOR, UH, VERY LONG TIME, HAS VERY STRONG FINANCIAL, UM, YOU KNOW, UH, CAPACITY, UH, FINANCIAL SHEETS AND .

AND, UM, SO THEY WERE STRONG IN THAT ASPECT.

UH, HOWEVER, THEY DID NOT BID ON OPTION ONE, WHICH, YOU KNOW, IS THE, UM, THE LEASE CHANGE TO OUR RESIDENTS.

SO, UH, AS FAR AS, UH, STAFF WAS CONCERNED, IT WOULD, OPTION ONE WAS A PREFERRED, YOU KNOW, UH, RECOMMENDATION IF WE FELT LIKE IT COULD BE AFFORDED, YOU KNOW, WITHOUT TOO MUCH OF A PRICE INCREASE.

UH, WASTE MANAGEMENT DID NOT AGREE TO THE, UM, TO THE CONTRACT.

THEY HAD, UH, SEVERAL PAGES OF EXCEPTIONS TO OUR CONTRACT, SO THEY WERE NOT WILLING TO SIGN THE CONTRACT AS IT WAS, UH, AND THEY WOULD NOT AGREE TO THE 4% CAP.

UH, BEST TRASH, UM, IS A FIRM THAT WE HAVE NOT USED BEFORE.

SO, UM, WE DID, YOU KNOW, CHECK REFERENCES AND LOOK AT THEIR, UH, PROPOSAL AND, UH, CERTAIN THINGS STOOD OUT.

UH, THEY ARE FAMILY OWNED AND OPERATED.

UM, THEY HAVE, THEY WERE FOUNDED IN 2009.

HOWEVER, THE, UH, THE OWNERS ALSO HAVE HAD PREVIOUS, UM, COMPANIES DATING BACK TO 1998.

SO THEY HAVE, YOU KNOW, QUITE A HISTORY OF PROVIDING TRASH SERVICE IN THE HOUSTON, UH, METROPOLITAN AREA.

AND THEY HAVE DONE HOUSEHOLD COLLECTION.

THEY HAVE OVER 300,000 HOMES THAT THEY COLLECT, UH, ON A MONTHLY BASIS,

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SOME OF THE, UH, THINGS THAT CAME OUT THAT, THAT, THAT WERE POSITIVE, UM, THEY HAVE PAYABLES, THEY HAVE ALSO STRONG FINANCIALS.

THEY HAVE PAYABLES WITHIN 30 DAYS.

UM, THEY HAVE NO LAWSUITS, UH, IN THEIR COMPANY HISTORY OR REQUEST FOR ARBITRATION OR MEDIATION.

UM, UH, THEY DID, WERE ABLE TO PROVIDE THE, UH, THE, THE BONDING REQUIRED BOTH THE PERFORMANCE AND BID BONDS.

UH, THEIR FLEET IS, UH, FAIRLY NEW.

UH, THEY HAVE A FLEET OF 140, UH, REAR LOAD, UM, TRUCKS.

AND, UH, APPROXIMATELY 104 TRUCKS ARE USED DAILY.

SO THEY HAVE CAPACITY WITHIN THEIR EXISTING, UH, INVENTORY TO SERVICE BAYTOWN, WHICH WOULD REQUIRE UNDER, UH, THE OPTION THREE PROPOSAL TO USE 11 TRUCKS.

SO, AND THEY HAVE, UH, 14 TRUCKS THAT ARE ON ORDER ALREADY, NEW TRUCKS THAT WOULD BE USED IN BAYTOWN.

UM, THEY ALSO, UH, WE DID REFERENCE CHECKS.

SO THEY, THEY SERVICE SEVERAL LARGE, UM, MUD DISTRICTS AND NEIGHBORHOODS IN THE HOUSTON AREA.

UM, BOTH, YOU KNOW, UH, SIENNA PLANTATION, UH, AS WELL AS, UH, RIVERSTONE.

UM, SO I USED TO BE, UH, A RESIDENT OF SIENNA.

SO I KNOW THE, THE, UH, THE SUBDIVISION THERE IS, YOU KNOW, UM, EXPECTS HIGH STANDARDS AS WELL AS, UH, VERY OWN.

ANDREA BRINKLEY LIVES IN RIVERSTONE, AND SHE IS A, A, A CUSTOMER OF BEST TRASH CURRENTLY.

SO, UH, BOTH SHE AND HER MOTHER ATTEST TO THE, UM, THE SERVICE THAT THEY PROVIDE.

SO OUR RECOMMENDATION IS, UH, TO AWARD CONTRACT TO BEST TRASH.

UH, OUR RECOMMENDATION IS FOR ALTERNATE THREE, WHICH IS, UH, THE BAG COLLECTION.

UH, BUT RECYCLING WOULD BE IN THE 65 GALLON CONTAINER.

UH, HOWEVER, UH, BEST TRASH HAS STATED THAT IF THERE ARE BOXES PLACED OUTSIDE OF THE RECYCLING CONTAINER, THEY WILL COLLECT THOSE BOXES, UH, FOR RECYCLING, BECAUSE THEIR RECYCLING IS ALSO, UH, A REAR LOAD.

AND SO IT'S BEING COLLECTED BY HAND.

UM, THEIR RATE WOULD DROP TO $21 AND 45 CENTS FROM THE CURRENT $27 AND 2 CENTS.

SO, AGAIN, UM, STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE CONTRACT TONIGHT.

UH, WE DON'T SEE ANY, UM, DRAWBACKS WITH THIS VENDOR.

UM, THEY ARE RUNNING LATE TONIGHT.

UH, THEY WERE GONNA BE HERE, UH, HOWEVER, UH, THEY SHOULD BE HERE, UM, ANY MINUTE NOW, IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS FOR THEM.

UM, LIKE I SAY, UH, THEY'LL BE HERE SOON.

ALRIGHT.

SO, UM, AS A REMINDER, SO THIS, THIS AGENDA ITEM WAS ON A PREVIOUS AGENDA, UM, AND, BUT I THINK WE HAD THREE COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT, THAT WERE NOT HERE.

SO I FELT IT BEST TO, TO GET EVERYONE'S INPUT.

OBVIOUSLY, UM, THIS TYPE OF CONTRACT IS OUR, OUR MOST COMMON TOUCH POINT IN A SENSE FROM A CITY SERVICE PERSPECTIVE TO OUR CITIZENS.

AND SO WE WANNA MAKE, I, I DID WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE HAD EVERYBODY AS, AS, AS ABLE AND, AND, AND, UM, AVAILABLE TO COMMENT.

AND SO I WANNA OPEN UP TO COMMENTS REGARDING, I GUESS THERE'S LOTS OF OPTIONS HERE.

I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS IF I MAY ASK, BUT I WANNA MAKE SURE ANYBODY ELSE HAVE JUST, JUST SOME QUESTIONS AS FAR AS, UM, WHAT'S PROPOSED.

I HAVE, YES, MA'AM.

A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.

ALRIGHT.

UM, SO I, I THINK FIRST AND FOREMOST, I LIKE THE PRICE.

UM, IF ALTERNATE THREE IS THAT UNLIMITED BAGS, SO IT STAYS AS IS.

IT IS, IT IS NOT.

THERE'S NO OPTION WITH UNLIMITED BAGS.

OKAY.

SO WE DID PLACE A LIMIT.

IT'S A 10 BAG LIMIT OF 30 GALLON EACH, CORRECT? CORRECT.

OKAY.

'CAUSE THAT'S STILL A LOT OF TRASH.

IT'S, IT'S A LOT.

IT'S STILL A LOT OF TRASH.

BUT, AND, AND ONE THING I I FORGOT TO ADD IS, UH, YOU KNOW, THERE, THERE'S AN ADDITIONAL PRICE FOR LARGE BULK, UH, COLLECTION.

UH, IF YOU KNOW, IT'S MORE THAN THE FOUR QIC YARDS, THERE IS STILL THE OPTION OF THE GREEN CENTER, YOU KNOW, WHICH, UH, IS VERY MINIMAL FEE.

UH, I THINK IT'S $5 FOR A TRUCK OR $10 FOR A TRAILER.

UM, SO WE STILL, WE HAVE OTHER OPTIONS IF FOR VERY LARGE COMMUNI ACCUMULATIONS TO, TO BE TAKEN.

OKAY.

UM, SO MY QUESTION, AND, AND I I THINK MAYOR, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT MAYBE WE NEED TO WAIT FOR, UM,

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YES.

AND SO MUD DISTRICTS FROM MY DISTRICT IS DIFFERENT.

UM, I HAVE ALLEYWAYS.

UM, I'M NOT SAYING THAT WE DON'T LOOK AS NICE AS MUD DISTRICTS, BUT WE PROBABLY HAVE MORE TRASH.

UM, AND SO THAT'S JUST ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT I HAD.

OR ARE THEY GOING TO BE ABLE TO HANDLE THE WORKLOAD THAT WE WOULD HAVE? UM, ESPECIALLY THAT I'VE SEEN IN MY DISTRICT AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, OH, SORRY, FITTING THROUGH OUR ALLEYWAYS.

SO, SO MR. MAY IS, UH, ONE OF THE OWNERS, SO HE PERFECT TIMING.

SORRY ABOUT THAT.

HE JUST SHOWED UP.

TRUCK BROKE DOWN.

THAT'S OKAY.

WE'RE GLAD YOU'RE HERE.

SO I CAN, UH, YES.

PUT, I CAN PUT THE MICROPHONE OVER HERE.

I TALK PLENTY LOUD TOO, SO I USUALLY DON'T NEED A MICROPHONE, BUT, ALRIGHT.

QUESTIONS.

SO MY, I'M MATTHEW MAY WITH BEST TRASH, BY THE WAY.

NICE TO MEET ALL Y'ALL.

THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.

UM, SO MY QUESTION WAS REALLY, UH, IN MY PERCEPTION, MUD DISTRICTS ARE COMPLETELY DIFFERENT THAN WHAT YOU WOULD SEE IN MY DISTRICT.

MUCH OLDER AREA.

YOU PROBABLY WOULD HAVE MORE TRASH BECAUSE WE HAVE MORE MULTI-FAMILY, SMALL DUPLEXES, DUPLEXES, ET CETERA.

SO YOU'RE PROBABLY GONNA SEE MORE TRASH THAN YOU WOULD NORMALLY SEE IN MUD DISTRICT.

SO I'M JUST QUESTIONING, UM, THE CAPACITY, UH, TO BE ABLE TO, UM, SERVE A DISTRICT.

UM, LIKE WE WOULD HAVE MAYBE ONE AND TWO.

UM, AND THEN ALSO WE HAVE SOME ALLEYWAYS.

I DON'T SAY WE HAVE A LOT OF ALLEYWAYS, BUT WE ALSO HAVE SOME ALLEYWAYS.

AND I'M JUST WONDERING WHAT IF YOUR TRUCKS WOULD BE ABLE TO MANEUVER THROUGH OUR ALLEYWAYS? SURE, SURE.

WELL, THE, AS FAR AS THE, YOUR DISTRICT OR AREA BEING DIFFERENT THAN OUR MUD DISTRICTS, UH, WE PICK UP PRETTY MUCH THE GREATER HOUSTON METRO AREA.

AND WE HAVE PROBABLY NEIGHBORHOODS THAT ARE 40, 50, 60 YEARS OLD.

WE HAVE A LOT OF NEIGHBORHOODS WITH DUPLEXES.

UH, WE HAVE, UH, FROM THE MOST AFFLUENT NEIGHBORHOODS IN THE CITY TO THOSE THAT ARE THE OPPOSITE OF THAT.

SO AS, AS FAR AS HAVING EXPERIENCE WITH PICKING UP VARYING TYPES OF TRASH BASED ON YOUR ECONOMICS OF YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD, IF YOU WILL, WE'RE, WE'RE ACCUSTOMED TO SEEING ALL OF THAT.

UM, AS, AS FAR AS THE AMOUNT OF TRASH BEING GENERATED IN THOSE AREAS.

SO THE, THE CONTRACT HAS LIMITATIONS TO THE AMOUNT OF TRASH THAT YOU'RE ALLOWED TO PUT OUT.

SO IF A PARTICULAR NEIGHBORHOOD OR RESIDENTS IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD HAVE MORE THAN WHAT THE CONTRACT CALLS FOR, THEY CAN PAY EXTRA FOR THAT.

SO, UM, I'M NOT SURE IF THE, THE RESIDENTS IN YOUR PARTICULAR DISTRICT OR NEIGHBORHOOD GENERATE MORE TRASH THAN WHAT IS SPECIFIED IN THE CONTRACT OR NOT.

MM-HMM .

UH, BUT MY, UH, UH, EXPERIENCE HAS BEEN THAT WHAT THE CONTRACT IS CALLING FOR SHOULD COVER EVERYTHING THAT YOU HAVE.

SO IF IT'S 10, AND I DON'T HAVE MY CALCULATOR, BUT IF IT'S 10 30 GALLON BAGS A COLLECTION DAY, AND IF YOUR AVERAGE KITCHEN TRASH BAG IS 13 GALLONS, SO THAT'S THREE PER THOSE.

SO YOU WOULD HAVE TO GENERATE 30 KITCHEN TRASH BAGS EVERY THREE DAYS, WHICH WOULD BE 10 A DAY.

AND I DON'T THINK ANYBODY PULLS THEIR KITCHEN TRASH BAG OUT 10 TIMES A DAY.

SO THE SPECIFICATIONS THAT ARE IN THE CITY CONTRACT SHOULD BE MORE THAN ADEQUATE, ESPECIALLY THEN YOU THROW IN RECYCLING.

SO YOU HAVE TO GENERATE 10 KITCHEN TRASH BAGS EVERY SINGLE DAY AND RECYCLE ZERO IN ORDER TO EXCEED WHAT THE SPECIFICATIONS ARE.

SO I DON'T ANTICIPATE THERE BEING ON, UH, ROUTE ROUTINELY BEING ANY SECTION IN THE CITY THAT'S GOING TO EXCEED WHAT THE SPECIFICATIONS ARE IN THE CONTRACT.

I APPRECIATE THAT.

AND THEN AS FAR AS YOUR TRUCKS MANEUVERING THROUGH OUR ALLEYWAY, UH, I, I WOULD JUST ADD THAT THE OPTION MM-HMM .

IS TO HAVE THE CART COLLECTION, WHICH IS MUCH MORE LIMITED THAN 10 BAGS,

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UH, PER COLLECTION DAY RATHER THAN 10 BAGS.

I GUESS THE QUESTION THAT WE NEED TO BE AN, THAT NEEDS TO BE ANSWERED IS IN, IN, IN CERTAIN, IN, IN A CERTAIN AREA OF TOWN, A SMALL SECTION, BUT THERE, THERE IS NO OPTION OTHER THAN IN AN ALLEYWAY.

MM-HMM .

CAN YOUR VEHICLES COLLECT THAT? UM, I GUESS COLLECT THE TRASH IF IT'S GONNA BE CART ON, IS IT GONNA BE CART ONLY OR YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO HAVE MEN OR PERSONNEL ON, ON THE BACK OF THE TRUCK TO COLLECT IT? 'CAUSE THERE IS NOT AN, THERE'S REALLY NOT AN OPTION FOR PHYSICALLY WHERE CITIZENS CAN PLACE, UH, A, A, UH, CART IF YOU WANNA CALL IT THAT, UH, WHERE YOUR TRUCK CAN PROBABLY GET IT.

UM, THERE'S, THERE'S PHYSICAL LIMITATIONS.

SO THE QUESTION I NEED TO HEAR, OR THE ANSWER I NEED TO HEAR VERY BRIEFLY, IS A YES OR NO IS, IS IT GONNA BE, CAN THEY COLLECT BAGS OR CARTS? AND IT PROBABLY HAVE TO BE MANNED.

UH, IT PROBABLY WON'T WORK WITH A, UH, UH, AUTOMATED SYSTEM.

SO WHEN WE WERE LOOKING AT THE OPTION, THE CART ONLY OPTION IS A PROBLEM WITH ALLEYWAYS IF YOU DO AUTOMATED COLLECTION.

RIGHT.

BECAUSE THE SIDE LOAD TRUCKS CAN'T GET DOWN THE ALLEY.

OKAY.

SO THE OPTION THAT IS RECOMMENDED IS THE REAR LOAD HAND COLLECTION.

OKAY.

AND THAT, THAT IS WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE IN THE ALLEYS.

RIGHT.

AND SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT, THAT'S ALL SHE NEEDED.

THAT THAT WAS HER ONLY QUESTION THAT SHE JUST NEEDED TO KNOW CAN YOU DO IT? AND SO THE THE ANSWER IS YES, CORRECT.

THAT WAS MY, YEAH, THAT WAS THE SECOND QUESTION THAT I HAD ASKED.

AND, AND, AND I THINK I CAN COVER THE REST WITH STAFF THAT THE REASON I ASKED ABOUT THE AMOUNT OF TRASH, FRANK IS, UM, JUST IN PREPARING FOR TODAY'S MEETING, I HAD A RESIDENT THAT WAS SAYING, WELL, THIS PARTICULAR NEIGHBOR HAS SO MANY RENT PROPERTIES, BUT SHE BRINGS EVERYTHING TO THIS ONE.

AND SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE MAY NEED TO MANAGE THROUGH CODE ENFORCEMENT, THOSE THAT HAVE EXCESSIVE OR HAVE BUSINESSES AND BRINGING OVER THE TRASH TO A RESIDENTIAL SIDE.

SO WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT SEPARATELY.

BUT, UM, I KNOW THAT'S BEEN AN ISSUE FOR THIS PARTICULAR NEIGHBORHOOD.

UM, OKAY.

THOSE ARE MY QUESTIONS FOR NOW.

YES.

SO LET ME GET TO OTHER COUNCIL, UH, MEMBERS' QUESTIONS.

YES, MR. JOHNSON.

WELL, MY QUESTION WAS GONNA BE, HAVE YOU ALL TAKEN THE TIME TO COME OUT AND RIDE THROUGH BAYTOWN TO SEE SPECIFICALLY WHAT COUNCIL MEMBER ALVARADO WAS, UM, TRYING TO DESCRIBE.

UH, WE HAVE NOT SPECIFICALLY DRIVEN AROUND BAYTOWN, UH, MORE CLOSELY HER ALLEYWAY NEIGHBORHOOD.

WE HAVE NOT DONE THAT.

OKAY.

ALRIGHT.

UH, WHAT'S YOUR OTHER QUESTIONS? ANYBODY ELSE HAVE NOT, UM, I GUESS FOR BEST, SO, UM, A COUPLE COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.

ONE, WHAT IS, WHAT IS YOUR, IN A SENSE, GENERALLY, WHAT IS YOUR TOTAL CUSTOMER BASE, IF YOU'RE WILLING TO EXPRESS THAT? UH, CURRENTLY WE SERVICE ABOUT 300,000 RESIDENTS THROUGH AROUND 220 DIFFERENT CONTRACTS WITH MUDS AND HOAS.

OKAY.

AND THEN IS THERE, WHAT IS YOUR LARGEST MUNICIPALITY THAT YOU SERVICE? UH, OUR LARGEST MUNICIPALITY.

WE DON'T, WE DON'T, THIS WILL BE OUR FIRST CITY CONTRACT, UH, BUT WE HAVE MANY MUDS THAT ARE IN THE NINE TO 10,000 HOME EACH, UH, AND, UH, ROUTINELY START 20,000 HOMES A MONTH WITH THREE OR FOUR DIFFERENT CONTRACTS.

SO WHAT, WHAT'S YOUR LARGEST, WHAT IS YOUR LARGEST INDIVIDUAL CONTRACT, I GUESS? UH, THAT WOULD BE, WELL, SIENNA PLANTATION HAS SIX MUDS.

UH, IT'S ONE COMMUNITY, OUR SINGLE, WHICH IS 11,000 HOMES.

WE HAVE HARRIS ONE 60 FIVES, 9,000 HOMES.

WE HAVE NORTHWEST FIVE IS 9,000 HOMES.

WE HAVE SEVERAL SINGULAR MUDS THAT ARE EIGHT OR 9,000 HOMES.

OKAY.

'CAUSE OUR, OURS IS ROUGHLY 20,000.

RIGHT, RIGHT.

SO, OKAY.

I, I NEED TO KNOW THAT.

UM, WHAT I WILL SAY, JUST, JUST FOR, FOR COUNCIL'S KNOWLEDGE, UH, I DID ASK, UH, OTHER FOLKS IN THE INDUSTRY NOBODY THAT BID ON THIS, UM, RFP.

BUT I DID HEAR, I WILL SAY IN, UH, IN, IN TRUE FAIRNESS, I HEAR, I HEAR YOUR CUSTOMER SERVICE IS VERY, VERY GOOD.

UH, IN, IN THOSE THAT YOU, YOU SERVICED.

I THINK EVEN IN ONE COMMUNITY, I WON'T NAME IT THAT WHEN Y'ALL WERE NO LONGER GONNA BE THE SERVICING PROVIDER, PEOPLE THREW A PARTY 'CAUSE Y'ALL REALLY DID THAT GOOD OF A JOB.

THAT IS CORRECT.

AND SO I THINK IN FAIRNESS, I WANTED PEOPLE TO KNOW FROM A SERVICE STANDPOINT OF THE COMMUNITIES THEY SERVE, THAT THEY HAVE PERFORMED WELL.

OKAY.

UH, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR WASTE MANAGEMENT.

I SEE THEM HERE.

MM-HMM .

UM, MAYBE STAFF CAN ANSWER.

SO THE, THE, THE ONE QUESTION I HAVE FOR THEM IS, UM, I DO UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, PUTTING, PUTTING KIND

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UM, BUT IT IS A, IT IS A SERVICE CONTRACT.

WE DO NEED TO CONTROL THOSE COSTS.

SO DO YOU HAVE A PROPOSAL FOR IF, IF ANY, ON, UM, THAT TYPE OF, UM, CAP OR ANYTHING? 'CAUSE WE, WE DO KIND OF NEED TO KNOW THAT TOO.

SO IT'S EITHER GONNA BE A SET, LIKE EITHER A SET FIGURE OR SOMETHING.

WE HAVE TO BE ABLE TO, TO MANAGE THAT.

AND I KNOW IT'S HARD WITH LABOR AND SUPPLY CHAIN AND OTHER THINGS, BUT I DO NEED TO KIND OF HAVE AN IDEA OF WHAT WE'RE GETTING INTO.

YES.

ON THAT.

ABSOLUTELY.

SO, THANK YOU MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

UM, FOR THE TIME TONIGHT.

I'M SHANNA LOPEZ.

I'VE BEEN MANAGING THE ACCOUNT FOR ABOUT SIX YEARS AND, UM, PROBABLY THIS YEAR WAS PROBABLY THE FIRST TIME THAT WE REALLY HAD A, AN ISSUE WITH THAT 4% CAP BECAUSE AS YOU KNOW, CPI IS AT A ALL TIME HIGH.

SO SEEING THAT THIS YEAR IS, IS PROBABLY THE WORST TIME FOR US TO SEE THAT, HEY, WE'RE GONNA GO THE NEXT FIVE YEARS AND IT'S GONNA BE CAPPED AT 4%.

WE UNDERSTAND BUDGET RESTRAINTS, WE UNDERSTAND PRICING.

UM, SO WE DID TALK TO THE CITY AND THE CONSULTANT ABOUT POSSIBLY LOOKING AT MAYBE A, IN A TIMEFRAME OF THE CONTRACT, A MAX OF 25%.

SO ONE YEAR IT COULD BE 7%, ONE YEAR IT COULD BE 3%.

THE NEXT YEAR IT COULD BE TWO, BUT NEVER GOING OVER THE WHOLE CONTRACT TERM OF THE 25%.

SO THAT WAS WHAT WE DISCUSSED AS AN OPTION, UM, THAT WE'D BE WILLING TO DO.

WE JUST COULDN'T SAY 4% EVERY YEAR AND THEN NOT HAVE THOSE DISCUSSIONS.

SO WE DO UNDERSTAND THAT IF WE HAD A MAX THAT ONE YEAR, WE MAY NOT AT THE END OF THE CONTRACT BE ABLE TO, UM, APPLY A CA AN ADJUSTMENT.

SO, YEAH.

SO, UM, MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THIS IS A FIVE YEAR CONTRACT, IS THAT CORRECT? THAT, SO BASICALLY I THINK THE WAY WAS IT, WHAT WHAT WAS PROPOSED WAS 4%.

SO THAT WOULD BE A 20%, YOU WANT TO CAP IT OVERALL INTO FIVE, UH, 25, WHICH IS A 5% ON AVERAGE WOULD BE A 5%.

RIGHT.

SO I THINK THIS SEEMS PRETTY FAIR.

I JUST NEED TO KNOW WAS THERE AN ALTERNATIVE PLACE THERE? BUT I WANNA HEAR FROM COUNSEL.

THOSE ARE PRETTY MUCH MY QUESTIONS.

UM, OTHER THAN, UH, BULK CAN, YOU DON'T HAVE TO, YOU CAN DESCRIBE ONE OR FRANK CAN, BUT GIVE A GENERAL DESCRIPTION OF WHAT'S CONSIDERED BULK TRASH.

SO FOR US, BULK IS CONSIDERED ANYTHING THAT IS NOT BAGGED OR CONTAINERIZED.

SO IN THE INSTANCE THAT WE SERVICE A CUSTOMER AND THEY HAVE CONTAINERS OR WHATEVER THEY USE OR BAGS, ANYTHING OUTSIDE OF THAT IS CONSIDERED BULK FOR US.

OKAY.

JUST WANTED A CLARITY FOR, BECAUSE OF THE TERM.

OKAY.

ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS? AT LEAST IF NOT, THEN I WANT TO GET INTO SOME MORE DISCUSSION.

NOT, OKAY.

THANK YOU.

ANYBODY HAVE ANY COMMENTS? I GUESS MAYBE QUESTION SLASH COMMENT.

OKAY.

SO ON A FIVE YEAR CONTRACT, I MEAN, IT SOUNDS LIKE WE'RE COMFORTABLE WITH THE LEVEL OF SERVICE BASED ON SOME OF THE MUD DISTRICTS SEEING A PLANTATION COMMENTS YOU'VE HEARD, BUT POSSIBLY MORE OF A LEGAL QUESTION.

IF WE WERE DISSATISFIED WITH THE LEVEL OF SERVICE, WHAT ARE OUR OUTS IN ANY PARTICULAR YEAR, IF ANY? CORRECT.

SO THERE ARE, UM, I WOULD JUST SAY THERE'S A LIST OF LIQUIDATED DAMAGES THAT ARE IN THE CONTRACT.

UM, FOR MISSED COLLECTION, THERE'S A HUNDRED DOLLARS PER MISSED COLLECTION OVER, UM, FIVE MISSED COLLECTION DAYS.

THERE'S, UH, A RESIDENTIAL UNIT BLOCK FOR $250 PER INCIDENT.

THERE'S, UH, COMMENCEMENT OF RESIDENTIAL COLLECTION PRIOR TO 7:00 AM $250 PER OCCURRENCE.

THERE'S, UH, FAILURE TO COMPLETE A MAJORITY 50% OF THE COLLECTION ON A GIVEN DAY, UH, $5,000 PER INCIDENT.

UH, FAILURE TO FAILURE TO MAINTAIN A VEHICLE, UH, A HUNDRED DOLLARS PER INCIDENT, FAILURE TO CLEAN UP SPILL SOLID WASTE, $200 PER $250 PER IMPACTED ADDRESS.

UM, FAILURE TO RESOLVE PROPERLY REPORTED, UH, CUSTOMER COMPLAINTS, $200 PER INCIDENT.

FAILURE TO SUBMIT ACCURATE MONTHLY REPORT, $250 PER REPORT.

FAILURE TO LEAVE A PUBLIC EDUCATION NOTICE, $50 EACH INCIDENT, FAILURE TO BE PREPARED TO PERFORM SERVICE, UH, ON OR AFTER COMMENCEMENT DATE, $3,000 PER DAY.

UH, FAILURE TO DELIVER OR REPLACE RECYCLING CART, UH, $50 PER INCIDENT.

UH, AS, AS WELL AS, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A PERFORMANCE BOND THAT CAN BE USED IN, IN THE EVENT THEY FAILED TO PERFORM.

SO MONETARY PENALTIES, BUT NOT ANY, UH,

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UM, FOR CAUSE I, COUNCIL MEMBER, I CAN ADDRESS THAT WE WILL HAVE OUR STANDARD, UH, TERMINATION FOR CAUSE PROVISIONS IN THERE AS WELL AS OUR STANDARD, UH, BANKRUPTCY OR INSOLVENCY LANGUAGE, UH, TERMINATION FOR NON APPROPRIATION OF FUNDS.

AND THOSE ARE, UH, TYPICALLY IN ALL OF OUR CONTRACTS.

OKAY.

OKAY.

THANKS SCOTT.

ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? IF NOT, I'LL, I'LL MAKE MINE.

UM, SO YES.

OH, GO AHEAD.

I'LL JUMP IN.

UM, SOME OF OUR DISCUSSIONS EARLY ON, EVEN BEFORE THE, THE CONTRACT PROPOSALS CAME OUT, YOU KNOW, I WON'T SAY THERE WAS A CONSENSUS, BUT THERE WAS A DISCUSSION THAT TRYING TO MOVE AWAY FROM THE BAG COLLECTION, NOW I UNDERSTAND IT'S CHEAPER, UM, BUT, YOU KNOW, THE CART COLLECTION ISSUES OTHER THAN THE, THE ALLEYWAYS THAT ARE IN DISTRICT ONE.

UM, SO I, I WAS ACTUALLY HOPING THAT THE, THE BIDS, OR IF YOU HAVE, YOU KNOW, THE, THE PRICING WOULD BE A LITTLE CLOSER THAN THAT TO, TO MOVE TOWARDS CARTS.

UM, AND THAT'S, THAT'S JUST THE WAY THAT THINGS ARE STARTING TO GO.

UM, SO I'M A LITTLE DISAPPOINTED TO SEE THAT, THAT THAT STAFF WAS GOING, AND I UNDERSTAND WHY STAFF DID IT, IS TO KEEP IT AS CONSISTENT WITH WHAT IS CURRENTLY GOING ON.

UM, TO, TO LOOK AT DOING BAGS AND, AND THE CART RECYCLING.

I WAS REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO TRYING TO MOVE THE CITY FORWARD INTO A CART COLLECTION PROCESS KNOWING THAT THERE WOULD STILL BE AREAS THAT CAN'T DO IT.

OKAY.

BUT WE COULD START EASING IN THAT DIRECTION, KNOWING IT WOULD BE A LITTLE BIT MORE EXPENSIVE.

UM, BUT SO, YOU KNOW, EVENTUALLY, SO, YOU KNOW, WE'LL SWITCH IN FOUR OR FIVE YEARS.

I'M NOT SURE IF, IF THE COMPANY IS, IS LOOKING AT DOING THAT OR IF THEY'RE GONNA STAY STRICTLY BAG COLLECTION TYPE COMPANY.

UM, I'M ALSO, YOU KNOW, A LITTLE CONCERNED THAT I'M GLAD HE IS TALKED ABOUT.

YOU ASKED THE QUESTION AS FAR AS THEIR LARGEST CLIENTS, IF YOU WILL.

UM, 'CAUSE IT GETS IT CLOSER TO OUR 20,000.

UM, IF YOU JUST TAKE THE 300,000 DIVIDED BY THE 200 SOMETHING CONTRACTS, THAT'S ABOUT A THOUSAND PER CONTRACT.

EVEN THOUGH THEY HAVE A LOT OF CLIENTS, A SINGLE CONTRACT OF 20,000 IS DIFFERENT.

UM, THEY HAVE SOME LARGE CLIENTS THAT ARE CLOSER TO THAT 20,000.

SO I'M A LITTLE BETTER WITH THAT, BUT I STILL HAVE CONCERNS.

'CAUSE WE'RE GONNA HAVE NO OFFENSE TO ANY TRASH COLLECTION COMPANY.

WE'RE STILL GONNA GET THE PHONE CALLS IF THEY MISS MY TRASH.

MM-HMM .

THEY HAD A TRUCK GO DOWN.

I MEAN, THAT'S JUST BUSINESS.

THAT'S JUST GONNA HAPPEN.

SO THAT'S KIND OF BUILT IN.

UM, BUT I WAS, I WAS REALLY HOPING WE COULD KEEP STEERING TOWARDS THE, THE FUTURE OF DOING CART COLLECTIONS.

AGAIN, KNOWING THAT THERE'S THE ALLEYWAYS, WE CAN'T DO IT.

I EVEN HAD THE, THE CHALLENGE, THE QUESTION OF, WELL, WHAT IF WE HAD THOSE PEOPLE THAT HAVE ALLEYWAYS START PUTTING UP FRONT, WENT THROUGH A WHOLE DISCUSSION THAT'S COMPLETELY DIFFERENT.

YOU KNOW, THEY DON'T HAVE ACCESS FROM THEIR BACKYARDS TO THEIR FRONT YARDS AND, AND OKAY, THE STREETS ARE NARROW.

THE STREETS ARE NARROW, THE STREETS ARE ALMOST AS NARROW AS THE ALLEYWAYS MM-HMM .

SO IT'S LIKE, OKAY, I, I GOT THAT.

SO WE'LL HAVE TO STAY A BAG COLLECTION IN THOSE ZONES.

BUT I WAS REALLY HOPING WE COULD, COULD LOOK AT MOVING TOWARDS WHATEVER COMPANY.

GOT IT.

THE CART COLLECTION, UH, SYSTEM.

SO THAT'S, THAT'S MY ONLY COMMENT.

I I THINK STAFF'S DONE A GREAT JOB.

THEY, THEY'VE FILTERED THROUGH.

BUT UM, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, THIS IS SOMETHING OUR CONSTITUENTS OR CITIZENS IN THE CITY, THEY'RE GONNA SEE A PER MONTH REDUCTION IN COST.

THEY'RE GONNA LIKE THAT.

BUT THIS IS, THIS IS TENTATIVE.

'CAUSE WE ALL KNOW THAT IF YOU DON'T PICK UP THE TRASH, THE PHONE START RINGING QUICK.

YEAH.

ABSOLUTELY.

ANY YES SIR.

YOU KNOW, I EVEN VOICED MY CONCERNS WITH RICK.

UM, HEARING, NOT HEARING THAT BEST TRASH WAS DOING A, A CITY BUT MUDS, I, I DID VOICE MY CONCERN AND, AND I AM GONNA BE CONCERNED ON IF WE CAN GET TRASH PICKED UP, CUSTOMER SERVICE IS GREAT, BUT IN THE END IT BOILS DOWN TO IS MY TRASH LEFT OUT THERE AFTER A CERTAIN TIME DURING THE DAY.

I SPECIFICALLY ASKED RICK WHAT HAPPENS? WELL, GOOD QUESTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER RESLEY ON, IS THERE AN OUT IF THE LEVEL OF SERVICE IS NOT THERE AND WE, WE CHOOSE THEM, LEVEL OF SERVICE IS NOT THERE, WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO? BECAUSE WE'RE GONNA BE THE ONES GETTING THESE PHONE CALLS.

AND, UM, I KNOW A CERTAIN COUNCIL MEMBER WAS MAKING SOME PHONE CALLS WHEN HIS TRASH WAS BEING PICKED UP AT NIGHT.

I I, I WOULD HATE TO SEE IT HAPPEN IN MY DISTRICT OR ANYONE ELSE'S DISTRICT BECAUSE THE, THE PHONE CALLS WE'RE GOING TO GET ONCE THEY START, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO STOP.

PEOPLE ARE GONNA START FINDING THINGS TO COMPLAIN ABOUT WHEN IT COMES TO TRASH PICKUP.

UM,

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WE'RE ONE OF THE FEW CITIES LEFT THAT'S ACTUALLY ALLOWING BAGS TO BE PICKED UP.

UM, SOONER OR LATER WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DO THAT.

I WAS HOPING IT WOULD BE SOONER RATHER THAN LATER.

IT SEEMS LIKE WE'VE, WE MAY BE STAVING IT OFF, BUT, UM, IS IT, DOES THE PRICE NORMALLY GO UP WHEN YOU ELIMINATE BAGS? ALRIGHT, SO THERE'S, THERE'S A COUPLE MISCONCEPTIONS RIGHT NOW ABOUT BEST TRASH AND WHAT IT IS WE DO AND HAVE TO OFFER.

THE, THE FIRST ONE IS WE ARE NOT A BAG ONLY COMPANY.

UH, WE DID PROVIDE MANY ALTERNATES THAT INCLUDED CARTS.

UH, WE WOULD STILL RUN THREE MAN CREW REAR LOAD.

UH, YOUR ALLEYWAY SECTIONS COULD HAVE CARTS 'CAUSE WE'RE NOT USING AN AUTOMATED TRUCK WITH AN ARM SO WE COULD GET DOWN THEM AND SERVICE CARTS.

SO, UH, YOU DO HAVE THAT OPTION.

UH, WE ARE, WE HAVE ALL OF OUR NEW DISTRICTS, AS Y'ALL SAID, ALL HAVE CARTS.

UH, SO THAT IS AN OPTION, UH, FOR Y'ALL TO STILL CONSIDER.

SO WE DID PROVIDE EVERY CONCEIVABLE COMBINATION OF 65, 95, 95, 65.

SO YOU STILL HAVE, UH, THE OPTION TO CHOOSE A CART IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO DO SO.

UH, THE BENEFIT TO RUNNING A REAR LOAD TRUCK WHEN YOU GO TO CARTS VERSUS A FULLY AUTOMATED SYSTEM, A FULLY AUTOMATED SYSTEM IS RESTRICTED TO CONTENTS OF CART ONLY.

MM-HMM .

UH, A REAR LOAD TRUCK, WE WILL TAKE ANYTHING PLACED ALONGSIDE THE CART AS LONG AS IT'S BOX BAGGED OR BUNDLED 50 POUNDS OR LESS.

SO, UH, IT, IT'S, IT'S STILL A CART SYSTEM, BUT IT'S BETTER THAN AUTOMATED.

'CAUSE AN AUTOMATED YOUR RESTRICTIONS.

SO, UH, IF, IF THAT'S SOMETHING THE COUNCIL CHOSE TO DO, IT'S STILL AN OPTION AND WOULD STILL BE BETTER THAN FULLY AUTOMATED.

UH, THE CARTS ARE A MORE EXPENSIVE OPTION FOR A COUPLE REASONS.

ONE IS THE EXPENSE OF THE CART UPFRONT.

SECONDLY IS THE TIME IT TAKES TO HANDLE CARTS VERSUS IT DOES BAGS OR SMALL CANS.

SO YOU CAN SEE IF YOU SAW OUR OPTIONS, THE VARIOUS RATES, WHICH HAD TO DO WITH CARTS BECAUSE OF THE NUMBERS OF HOMES WE CAN SERVICE IN A DAY.

UH, SO WE, WE CALCULATED I THINK 1300 HOMES A DAY WITH BAGS AND CANS.

UH, WE HAVE, UH, CREWS THAT DO 17, 1800 HOMES A DAY.

UH, WE DID, UH, I THINK IT WAS 1100 HOMES A DAY WITH 65 GALLON CARTS AND 900 HOMES A DAY WITH 95 GALLON CARTS.

SO IF YOU LOOKED AT OUR RFP, YOU COULD SEE THE NUMBER OF TRUCKS IT TOOK TO COMMIT TO GO WITH THE LARGER CARTS.

'CAUSE YOU CAN DO FEWER PER DAY.

SO YOU STILL HAVE THOSE OPTIONS.

AND THE REASON THE PRICE CHANGES IS THE PRODUCTIVITY LEVEL OF WHAT IT TAKES TO HANDLE THOSE CARTS.

AND USING REAR LOAD AND TWO GUYS ON BACK AND NOT THE ARM, THEY, IT'S MUCH HARDER FOR THEM TO DUNK 95 GALLON CARTS VERSUS 60 FIVES VERSUS BAGS AND CANS.

SO THERE'S, THERE'S SEVERAL FACTORS THAT GO INTO THE, UH, TO THE PRICING, UH, OF THAT AS WELL.

AND, AND YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE COMMENTS ON CUSTOMER SERVICE, UH, WE'VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR 24 YEARS IN HOUSTON.

UH, WE HAVE NEVER LOST A CONTRACT.

WE'VE NEVER BEEN TERMINATED FOR A CONTRACT, WE'VE NEVER BEEN PUT ON NOTICE.

WE'VE NEVER NOT FINISHED A SCHEDULED COLLECTION DAY.

SO, UH, A 20,000 HOME SINGULAR CONTRACT TO START IN IN DECEMBER THAT WE DELIVER 20,000 CARTS IS NO DIFFERENT THAN WE DID IN FEBRUARY WITH 20,000 HOMES THAT GOT TWO CARTS.

SO WE DELIVERED FOUR.

SO IT'S ROUTINELY WE START 20,000 HOMES IN A MONTH.

AND AGAIN, WE HAVE, HAVE NEVER HAD AN ISSUE WITH SERVICE OR WITH ANY CONTRACT WE'VE EVER HAD.

YES, MA'AM.

UM, JUST TO RESPOND TO A COMMENT THAT, UM, COUNCILMAN, UH, LESTER MADE ABOUT MOVING TOWARDS A NO BAG, JUST CART.

AND IF Y'ALL REMEMBER THE SESSION THAT WE HAD ABOUT WHAT, THREE YEARS AGO, UM, IN THE COMMUNITY CENTER, FOLKS WERE

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UM, THAT'S WHAT ORIGINALLY OUR CURRENT PROVIDER WAS WANTING TO MOVE TO.

AND UM, OUR RESIDENTS CHOSE TO PAY MORE IN ORDER TO HAVE THE UNLIMITED BAGS.

UM, AND SO THAT DID HAPPEN.

WE WANTED TO DO THAT INITIALLY AND RESIDENTS SAID NO, THEY WANTED UNLIMITED BAGS.

UM, AND SO I, I THINK WE DO HAVE A DECISION TO MAKE AND, AND I ASKED RICK, YOU KNOW, WHY AREN'T WE HAVING A COMMUNITY, UM, CONVERSATION ABOUT TRASH AGAIN? AND, AND ULTIMATELY IT WAS BECAUSE THE RATES WERE LOWER.

UM, THIS TIME AND WE ARE SAVING IS THE SAME.

WE WE'RE SAVING MONEY.

UM, IF WE GO TO ONE OF THE OPTIONS WITH, WITH BEST, UM, TRASH.

SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT UM, COUNCILMAN JOHNSON ASKED IS, DID YOU TAKE THE TIME TO DRIVE AROUND BEFORE YOU BID OR AFTER YOU BID, ET CETERA.

AND SO I THINK IT WOULD BEHOOVE YOU THAT IF THE DECISION SWAYS YOUR WAY, THAT YOU MAKE THOSE ROUTES SOONER THAN LATER, UM, TO GET TO KNOW THE NEIGHBORHOOD BECAUSE PERSONALLY I WOULD'VE DONE THAT MM-HMM .

IN PUTTING IN A CONTRACT, UM, OR A BID FOR A CONTRACT.

AND SO, UM, THESE VIOLATIONS CAN RAKE UP PRETTY QUICKLY.

AND SO I, I DON'T KNOW IF WE WANNA HAVE A GRACE PERIOD, UM, WHERE WE MAY GIVE THEM A WEEK OR TWO TO GET USED TO THE ROUTE, UM, BEFORE ANY VALUE, UH, ANY, UM, ANY FINES START RAKING UP.

UH, BUT THE TRANSITION WILL BE SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD BE HANDLING AND I HOPE THAT IT IS SEAMLESS AS WE'VE BEEN TOLD THAT IT WOULD BE.

UM, OKAY.

ANY MORE QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? UM, AND, AND I WAS NOT ON COUNCIL WHEN THAT WE HAD THAT MEETING, BUT I WAS AT THAT MEETING AND YOU'RE CORRECT, THE, THE FERVOR WAS OVER UNLIMITED.

MM-HMM .

WE, WE DON'T HAVE THAT WITH THIS CONTRACT EITHER.

IT'S 10 HAVE, WHICH IS STILL SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT.

IT'S STILL A LOT.

IT'S STILL A LOT.

BUT I, BUT I REMEMBER, I MEAN, THEY WERE ALMOST READY TO MM-HMM .

YOU KNOW, THEY WERE WARMING THE TAR UP OUTSIDE, UH, TO GO AWAY FROM UNLIMITED FOR SOME REASON THEY JUST THOUGHT THEY HAD TO HAVE THAT.

SO AGAIN, I CAN APPRECIATE THAT.

BUT AGAIN, MOVING TOWARDS THE CARTS, I GUESS MY FOLLOW UP IS IF WE GO WITH THIS, WITH THE 30 BAGS OR WHATEVER, THOSE OF US THAT DO HAVE CARTS, IT'S STILL PART OF THAT COST OR CONTRACT.

UH, BECAUSE I DON'T USE, I DON'T PUT TRASH BAGS OUT.

I PUT CART.

YEAH.

A, A RESIDENT WILL ONLY BE ABLE TO USE A CONTAINER UP TO 50 GALLONS IN SIZE.

SO IF RESIDENTS HAVE THEIR OWN CARTS, UH, THEN THAT TURNS INTO A CART ROUTE FOR US, NOT A BAG OR CAN ROUTE.

SO IF 10,000 PEOPLE GO OUT AND BUY CARTS, UH, THEN WE'RE BACK TO OUR LOWER PRODUCTION AND WE CAN'T HANDLE AS MANY HOMES.

AND THAT'S WHY THERE'S, THERE'S RESTRICTIONS ON THE SIZE OF, OF RECEPTACLE YOU CAN PUT OUT IF YOU CHOOSE A NON-CAR OPTION.

OKAY.

AND THAT WOULD BE A CONCERN.

'CAUSE ALL MINE ARE 65 GALLONS MINUS TWO, TWO.

IF I THAT, I'LL TELL YOU THAT WAS PROBABLY ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT ANSWERS AND QUESTIONS THAT HELP ME IN MY DECISION, .

THANK YOU.

SO ANY ANYONE ELSE? I THINK I'M GONNA RESERVE MY COMMENTS FOR, UH, THIS ITEM ON THE AGENDA.

OKAY.

OKAY.

ALRIGHT.

ALRIGHT.

UH, THERE'S, UH, THE NEXT ITEM.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU BOTH FOR, FOR COMING.

APPRECIATE.

IS THERE ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FOR ANYBODY? JUST WANNA MAKE SURE.

OKAY.

THANK Y'ALL.

UH, LET'S MOVE TO OUR NEXT ITEM, WHICH IS

[b. Discuss any or all of the agenda items on the City Council Regular Meeting Agenda for August 25, 2022, which is attached below.]

DISCUSS FOR NOW.

YES, SIR.

NOW, I, I ASKED, UH, MARTIN TO KIND OF REVIEW SOME OF THE LAND USE ITEMS THAT ARE ON THE AGENDA AND JUST ASK YOU IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS 'CAUSE OF THE NUMBER OF THEM THAT WERE ON THE AGENDA.

OKAY.

MAYBE YOU GO AHEAD AND DO THAT QUICKLY.

MM-HMM .

UH, OKAY.

SO WE, WE HAVE, UH, ITEMS 8, 9, 10, AND PART OF 12.

SO, UM, THE, UM, DO YOU WANNA JUST RUN THROUGH A QUICK SUMMARY OF EACH ONE OF THESE, THEN WE'RE ASK THEM IF THEY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR, OR IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THOSE, WE CAN JUST DO THAT, THAT WE JUST, I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION.

OKAY.

YEP.

A, A AND B ON THE, THE REZONING, UM, LOOKS LIKE A COUPLE OF, MAYBE THREE LOTS OR SO FOR MIXED RESIDENTIAL.

MM-HMM .

TO NSC.

DO WE HAVE A PROPOSED USE? THEY, THOSE ARE CURRENTLY, SO THE, THAT'S BASICALLY, THAT'S THE BACK HALF OF THE LOTS THAT ARE ALREADY BEING USED FOR COMMERCIAL.

THE BACK HALF IS ALREADY BEING USED FOR PARKING, BUT PARKING'S NOT ALLOWED IN THE, UH, SF

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SO BASICALLY THIS IS JUST KIND, KIND OF HOUSEKEEPING, SORT OF, YEAH.

YEAH.

MORE OR LESS, UH, IT'S ALREADY BEING USED FOR THAT.

IT, IT DOES SEEM APPROPRIATE.

IT DOES WORK.

OKAY.

SO, AND WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY, ANY, UH, ISSUES WITH IT AT PUBLIC HEARING, SO, OKAY.

THANK YOU.

OKAY, WHAT OTHER ITEMS, WHAT WERE THE OTHER ITEMS THAT Y'ALL WANTED TO, I DON'T THINK I HAVE QUESTIONS, BUT I WANT, CAN YOU REMIND US WHICH ITEMS ON THE, UH, SURE.

NINE.

SO YEAH, UH, ITEMS EIGHT, UH, NINE IS ANOTHER REZONE.

THAT'S, THAT'S, UM, I 10 AND SLANDER.

UH, 10 IS A, UM, THAT'S THE ANNEXATION OF, UH, THE SECOND PART OF BAY CREEK AND THE SECOND HALF OF 12 IS A NEW ANNEXATION AT 1 46 AND FM 1405, WHICH THAT'S ONE OF THOSE, IT'S BASICALLY ACCEPTING THE APPLICATION FOR THAT ANNEXATION.

OKAY.

IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS? I GUESS I'M NOT, AND I GUESS, UH, WE'VE ADDRESSED ALL OUR WORK SESSION POSTED AGENDA ITEMS, SO THIS IS NOW ADJOURNED.

WE'LL COME BACK IN 10 MINUTES.