Jul 26, 2022 Baytown Police Advisory Committee

MR. DON IKE IS GOING TO BE HERE BEFORE DR.

UH, MR. IKE COMES, I DO WANT TO JUST LAY OUT THE, UH, PARAMETERS FOR THE CITIZEN INPUT.

AND THIS ITEM GIVES ALL INTERESTED PERSONS THE RIGHT TO EXPRESS THEIR VIEWS REGARDING POLICE OUTREACH, COMMUNITY POLICING OFFICER TRAINING, AS WELL AS POLICIES AND PROCEDURES.

IT IS THE GOAL AND THE MISSION OF THIS COMMITTEE TO EMBRACE AND ENCOURAGE COMMUNICATION BETWEEN THE RESIDENTS OF THE CITY AND TO PROVIDE VALUABLE COMMENTS, SUGGESTIONS, AND RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE CITY COUNCIL.

EVERYONE DESIRING TO SPEAK SHOULD HAVE EITHER SIGNED THE LIST IN THE FOYER OR EMAILED THE CITY CLERK PRIOR TO THE POSTED TIME OF THIS MEETING.

EACH PARTICIPANT SHALL GIVE HIS OR HER NAME AND ADDRESS IN AN ORDER TO PROVIDE A PROPER RECORD.

THE RULES ALLOW EACH PERSON THREE MINUTES TO PRESENT INFORMATION.

HOWEVER, I ENCOURAGE EVERYONE TO BE AS BRIEF AND TO THE POINT AS POSSIBLE.

ADDITIONALLY, PURSUANT TO OUR RULES, A PERSON REQUESTING TO ADDRESS THE COMMITTEE MAY NOT PASS HIS OR HER TIME TO ANOTHER AS WE WANT TO HEAR DIRECTLY FROM EACH INDIVIDUAL.

UM, SO THE ONLY NAME WE HAVE TONIGHT IS MR. DON IKE.

SO MR. MR. IKE, IF YOU WILL COME AND GIVE US YOUR ADDRESS, AND THEN YOU WILL HAVE THREE MINUTES TO PRESENT YOUR, YOUR INPUT.

MY NAME'S DONNA IKE.

I'M NOT A PUBLIC SPEAKER.

I'M NOT A ROBERTS RULE ORDER PERSON.

MY NAME, UH, I LIVE AT FOUR 10 ROLLINGWOOD ROAD.

I ALSO LIVE THERE IN 1957, IF THAT TELLS YOU ANYTHING.

UH, I'VE BEEN AROUND BAYTOWN.

I WAS AT THE MEETING, THIS IS THE FIFTH ONE OF THESE MEETINGS I'VE BEEN AT AT VARIOUS TIMES.

I WAS AT THE LEE COLLEGE MEETING LAST TIME, AND I WROTE DOWN ONE.

I DON'T HAVE MY HEARING AIDS THIS TIME, BUT I WROTE DOWN, YOU SAID THIS IS THE ADVISORY COMMITTEE ONLY TO THE CITY COUNCIL.

WE DO NOT FIX ANYTHING.

WE REPORT TO THE CITY COUNCIL.

THAT IS CORRECT.

DURING THAT MEETING TWICE, I HEARD YOU SAY, WE CAN HANDLE THAT RIGHT HERE AND TALK TO THE POLICE CHIEF.

SO YOU'RE BREAKING YOUR OWN RULES ALSO, IF YOU'VE BEEN IN BUSINESS FOR A YEAR AND A HALF, AND I'M THE ONLY SPEAKER IN A TOWN OF 70,000 PEOPLE, THAT OUGHT TO TELL YOU SOMETHING.

IT'S JUST, I RETIRED FROM INDUSTRY AND EVERYTHING WAS COMPUTER BASED TRAINING.

AND WE'LL COVER OUR BOTTOMS BY HAVING COMPUTER BASED TRAINING.

UH, THAT DOESN'T DO IT.

THE MOST INTELLIGENT PERSON I'VE HEARD SPEAK HERE, AND THE MOST SINCERE I SAW HIM WALKING IN EARLIER WAS THE HISPANIC POLICEMAN.

NO, IT WASN'T YOU.

NO.

THE OTHER HISPANIC POLICE, LIEUTENANT OSA.

ARE, IN MY OPINION, YOU ARE, AND YOU ALSO SHUT PEOPLE OFF.

AND HE'S ACTUALLY HANDS ON, BOOTS ON THE GROUND TRYING TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE IN A TOWN THAT IS, WAS TOLD TO ME, INFORMED TO ME IS 51% OFFICIALLY HISPANIC MEXICAN FIRST LANGUAGE.

SO, AND THEN YOU TURN AROUND AND SAY, THEY SHY AWAY.

THEY DON'T TRUST, THEY WON'T COME SPEAK.

THEY WON'T COMPLAIN.

THEY'LL FIX THINGS WITH THEIR OWN HANDS.

UH, I JUST CAME TO SAY, YOU'RE BREAKING YOUR OWN RULES, WHICH

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IF I'M HERE, IF, IF I'M A FEMALE COMPLAINING THAT I'M SEXUALLY HARASSED AT WARDROBE AND 1 46 BY A COP, AND I'M UP HERE COMPLAINING AND THERE'S ANOTHER FEMALE SITTING HERE, THE SAME THING HAPPENED TO, AND SHE'S GOING, I WANNA TELL 'EM, I WANNA TELL 'EM MY STORY.

I WAS SEXUALLY HARASSED FOUR TIMES.

Y'ALL WON'T LET HER DO IT.

YOU SAY, COME BACK NEXT MONTH.

THAT'S THE END OF MY, THAT'S THE END OF MY TELLING.

YOU DON'T ALLOW OPEN DISCUSSION.

IT'S COME BACK NEXT MONTH, OR IF WE WANNA SPEAK TO YOU, WE'LL TELL YOU TO STAY AFTER THE MEETING AND THEN WE'LL SPEAK TO YOU.

SO, I, I, I APPLAUD ALL Y'ALL FOR HAVING GOOD INTENTIONS.

I'M NOT JUST HERE TO COMPLAIN.

I'M HERE TO JUST TO GIVE AN OPINION.

THAT'S IT.

THANK YOU MR. IKE FOR YOUR INPUT TONIGHT.

ANGELA, DO WE HAVE ANY, ANY OTHER? NO, SIR.

SO THERE BEING NO, NO MORE, UH, NO ONE ELSE DESIRING TO SPEAK.

I WANT TO THANK, UH, EACH ONE OF THE COMMENTS TODAY, AND PLEASE BE ASSURED THAT THIS COMMITTEE HAS HEARD YOU AND WILL THOROUGHLY CONSIDER THE MATTER RAISED AND WILL FORMULATE ANY RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THE CITY COUNCIL TO CONSIDER.

ON TO ITEM TWO B, AND THAT IS, UH, TO RECEIVE AN UPDATE ON THE CONCERNS BROUGHT FORTH, UH, THROUGH THE CITIZEN INPUT RECEIVED AT THE JUNE 21ST, 2022 BAYTOWN POLICE ADVISORY COMMITTEE.

UH, WE WILL BE MOVING

[b. Receive an update on the concerns brought forth through the Citizen Input received at the June 21, 2022, Baytown Police Advisory Committee Meeting.]

AND SO, UM, EXCUSE ME.

OH, THANK YOU.

SO, UM, I'M, WE'RE GONNA TURN IT OVER TO, UH, CHIEF STRINGER, BUT I DO WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE WE DO HAVE ONE OF OUR CITY COUNCILMAN HERE TONIGHT, CHARLES JOHNSON.

THANK YOU FOR ATTENDING.

APPRECIATE THAT SO VERY MUCH.

IT DOES MEAN A LOT THAT YOU ARE HERE.

TURN IT OVER TO CHIEF STRINGER TO GIVE US A, UH, QUICK SNAPSHOT OF THE ACTIONABLE ITEMS THAT HE WAS ABLE TO TAKE FROM THE CITIZENS' INPUT LAST MONTH.

CHIEF, IT WOULD COME AT THIS TIME, AND YOU ASKED ME TO BE QUICK, RIGHT? , YOU GOT 'EM ALL CHOKED OUT.

WELL, I'M SORRY.

I DIDN'T MEAN TO, I DIDN'T KNOW.

I I WASN'T EXPECTING QUICK.

THAT PARENTS ARE VERY OFTEN USING THEIR LAST OPTION WHEN THEY CALL THE POLICE FOR THEIR, THEIR, THEIR CHILDREN.

GIVE US A GOOD THOROUGH REPORT.

, I'LL DO MY BEST, I PROMISE.

UH, REFERENCE THE HOLLOWAY ROAD COMPLAINT.

UM, THIS AREA HAD ACTUALLY BEEN ON, ON, ON OUR RADAR IN THE BPD, UH, SPECIAL INVESTIGATIONS DIVISION.

HAD OPERATIONS PLANNED FOR THAT SAME AREA LATER IN THAT WEEK.

UM, HOWEVER, FOR THE INTEGRITY OF THE INVESTIGATION AND OTHER PLANNED ENFORCEMENT IN THAT AREA, WE COULDN'T ADVISE IT AT THE TIME OF COMPLAINT.

UH, LIEUTENANT, UH, UM, CROWELL, WHO WAS ACTUALLY OVER THAT DIVISION, UH, WAS THERE, AND HE AND I BOTH TALKED TO SOME OF THE PEOPLE WHO LIVED OVER THERE, GOT THEIR COMPLAINTS AND CONCERNS, AND, UH, WE REASSURED THEM THAT WE WOULD ADDRESS IT.

UM, I HAVE MET, UH, UH, WITH A, WITH A RESIDENT AFTER THE MEETING AND OR I DID MEET, AND I TOLD 'EM THAT WE'D BE WORKING THE AREA.

UH, AND WE'VE CONTINUED TO WORK THIS AREA ALONG WITH INCREASED TRAFFIC STOPS FROM OUR STREET CRIMES UNIT, WHICH IS PART OF THE SPECIAL INVESTIGATIONS DIVISION, AND PART OF OUR FOCUSED, UH, ENFORCEMENT EFFORTS.

UM, EARLIER, UH, LAST WEEK I SPOKE WITH AN INDIVIDUAL UP HERE AT CITY HALL WHO HAD SPOKEN UP ABOUT, UH, THE HOLLOWAY ROAD COMPLAINT AS WELL.

AND, UH, HE, UM, HE TOLD ME THAT THEY HAD SEEN THE ACTIVITY IN THE AREA, AND THAT THEY HAD ALSO SEEN, UH, A RELATIVE DECREASE IN SOME OF THEIR CONCERNS.

SO IT'S NOT PERFECT, IT'S NOT COMPLETELY SOLVED YET, BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE AT LEAST FOR OUR CITIZENS, WE'RE BEGINNING TO MAKE AN IMPACT.

AND AS MUCH AS ANYTHING ELSE THEY SEE THAT WE, WE'VE HEARD 'EM AND WE'RE RESPONSIVE.

UM, UH, ALSO, UH, AFTER THIS MEETING, UH, THIS IS IN, IN ADDITION, WE ALSO RECEIVED SOME ADDITIONAL REQUESTS FOR ASSISTANCE FROM THE MIDDLETON ROAD AREA.

AND, UH, WE BEGAN WORKING IN THAT AREA AS WELL.

AND LAST TUESDAY, COUNCILMAN JOHNSON ACT ACTUALLY RODE WITH ME, AND WE GOT OUT AND WE SPOKE TO AN INDIVIDUAL WHO LIVED OVER THERE, AND HE TOLD US PRETTY MUCH THE SAME THING.

WHILE IT HASN'T COMPLETELY STOPPED IN THAT AREA, THAT SOME OF THE, THE PATROLS THAT THEY'VE SEEN AND A COUPLE OF TRAFFIC STOPS, SEEMS TO HAVE MADE SOME TYPE OF IMPACT IN THAT AREA.

SO THAT REINFORCES FOR US WHAT WE NEED TO BE DOING TO CONCENTRATE ON THESE AREAS.

UM, REFERENCE THE MENTAL HEALTH AND JUVENILES CONCERN.

UH, THE SUPERVISOR OVER OUR MENTAL HEALTH OFFICERS AND CRISIS INTERVENTION TEAM WAS, UH, I, I, I SPOKE WITH HIM AND SO DID CHIEF WHITAKER.

UH, HE'S MET WITH OFFICERS THAT ARE BOTH CIT AND MENTAL HEALTH OFFICERS TO ENSURE THEY BETTER UNDERSTAND WHAT OUR PROGRAM IS, UH, WITH THE INTENT THAT IS INTENDED FOR ALL AGES, THE,

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AND IT'S AN ACT OF DESPERATION.

AND IN AS MUCH AS, UH, YES, WE HAVE CALLS THAT WE HAVE TO GET TO, WE NEED TO SLOW DOWN, TAKE A STEP BACK, AND BE MORE EMPATHETIC.

UM, ADDITIONALLY, UH, THROUGH THIS, WE'VE, WE'VE IDENTIFIED A LACK OF RESOURCES READILY AVAILABLE TO ADDRESS MENTAL HEALTH NEEDS, BUT MORE IN PARTICULAR, THOSE OF JUVENILES, UH, WHICH IS CONCERNING TO US.

UH, WE SPEND A LOT OF TIME TALKING ABOUT MENTAL HEALTH FOR ADULTS, BUT, UH, THE JUVENILE POPULATION, UH, SUFFERS MENTAL CRISES AT THE SAME RATE, IF NOT GREATER AT THIS TIME, ESPECIALLY AFTER COVID THAN ADULTS DO.

SO, UH, ONE OF OUR REQUESTS THROUGH THE BAY AREA MENTAL HEALTH COALITION THAT WE FORMED IS TO IDENTIFY RESOURCES AND CREATE A LIST AND A DATABASE THAT OFFICERS CAN DRAW FROM AND EITHER USE OUT IN THE FIELD THEMSELVES OR PASS ON TO PARENTS, GUARDIANS OR, OR JUST FAMILY MEMBERS IF IT'S AN ADULT SITUATION.

AND WE'VE ALSO ENCOURAGED OUR OFFICERS TO CONTINUE A CONVERSATION WITH OUR CITIZENS ON ALL CALLS, UH, BEYOND JUST MITIGATING THE CALL.

UM, CHIEF ALFRED PUT SOMETHING OUT NOT TOO LONG AGO, IT'S CALLED, IT ORIGINALLY STARTED FROM A BOOK CALLED 10 MORE MINUTES, WHICH WAS WRITTEN BY A POLICE CHIEF THAT WAS TRYING TO ENCOURAGE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT BEYOND THE CALL FOR SERVICE.

FOR INSTANCE, IF I RESPONDED TO A MENTAL HEALTH CRISIS, WE MITIGATED IT, WE GOT SOME HELP AND DEESCALATED.

AND THEN THE, THE IDEA IS LET'S CONTINUE TO TALK JUST A LITTLE BIT TO SEE WHAT ELSE YOU NEED.

LET ME ASK YOU A FEW KEY QUESTIONS.

SO THOSE ARE THINGS THAT WE'RE ALSO TRYING TO ENCOURAGE SO THAT OUR OFFICERS ARE MOVING BEYOND JUST THE BUSINESS OF WHAT THEY'RE DOING.

UM, YOU KNOW, WE MAY END UP IN A SITUATION WHERE WE CAN DETERMINE, UH, WHAT OTHER NEEDS A CITIZEN HAS THAT MIGHT NOT EVEN BE RELATED TO THAT ORIGINAL CALL FOR HELP.

UM, THERE WAS A CONCERN ABOUT SPEEDING, UH, AND, AND I REGRET TO INFORM EVERYONE THAT, UH, THAT THOSE COMPLAINTS WERE, WERE JUSTIFIED.

UH, DON'T KNOW THAT THE ACTUAL SPEEDS THAT WERE ESTIMATED WERE CORRECT, BUT, UH, PERSONNEL WERE EXCEEDING THE SPEED LIMIT IN THEIR CITY VEHICLES, AND THEY RECEIVED COUNSELING FOR THIS.

UM, WE'RE NOT GOING TO TOLERATE IT.

UM, WE'RE ALL EXPECTED TO SET THE EXAMPLE, AND THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO.

JUST CLARIFICATION, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE, THIS WAS THE, THE LAPORTE RESIDENT THAT CAME TO BAYTOWN.

IT IS.

I'M JUST MAKE SURE I'M TRACKING ALONG IN THE NOTES.

UM, AND THERE WAS, UH, A CONCERN ABOUT CULTURAL DIVERSITY AND SENSITIVITY TRAINING AS WELL.

UH, SO AS, AS WE DISCUSSED THE OTHER NIGHT, WE'VE HAD DISCUSSIONS WITH THE STAFF AT LEE COLLEGE ABOUT HELPING US EXPAND OUR CULTURAL DIVERSITY AND CULTURAL SENSITIVITY TRAINING AND AWARENESS.

AND WE'RE CONTINUING TO WORK ON THAT.

UH, ONE OF OUR ACADEMY INSTRUCTORS IS PARTNERING WITH, UH, DR.

UM, MARONE MM-HMM .

AND, UM, UH, MATTER OF FACT, I, SHE GAVE US A REALLY GOOD INSTRUMENT THAT LEE COLLEGE USED TO KIND OF GET A FEEL.

IT'S A SURVEY FOR THE, UH, THE CLIMATE OF TOLERANCE AND ACCEPTANCE AT LEE COLLEGE, UH, WHETHER IT BE RACIAL, UM, CULTURAL, OR, UH, L-G-B-T-Q.

AND, UM, IT'S A REALLY GOOD INSTRUMENT, PROBABLY A LITTLE BIT LONGER THAN WHAT WE NEED.

BUT WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO, AND I HAVE A CALL SCHEDULED WITH HER TOMORROW, IS, UH, AND I HAVE A BACKGROUND WITH TEST AND MEASURES, IS TRY TO DETERMINE HOW WE CAN COME UP WITH AN INSTRUMENT THAT WE CAN USE FOR, UH, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT INTERNALLY TO BEGIN TO EXPLORE HOW WE WOULD EXPAND THAT CURRICULUM TO GIVE TO OUR OFFICERS SO THAT WE KNOW WHAT THEIR ATTITUDES ARE, WE KNOW THAT THEIR, WHAT, WHAT, WHAT THEIR THOUGHTS ARE.

AND ALSO, I MEAN, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT, AS CHIEF I NEED TO KNOW TOO, WHAT ARE THE INTERNAL PERCEPTIONS ABOUT EQUALITY WITHIN OUR AGENCY AND HOW THEY'RE BEING TREATED, UH, BY FELLOW OFFICERS, BY SUPERVISORS, AS WELL AS WHAT ARE OUR ATTITUDES IN GENERAL TOWARDS CULTURAL DIVERSITY IN OUR CITY.

UM, JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, DR.

MARONE IS THE CHIEF EQUITY OFFICER AT LEE COLLEGE.

IN A MEETING, IT WAS A ZOOM MEETING WITH, UH, JUDGE BARBARA STALDER, UH, SHERIFF GONZALEZ AND OTHER LAW ENFORCEMENT, MENTAL HEALTH PROVIDERS ABOUT TWO WEEKS AGO NOW.

I APPRECIATE, JUST WANNA MAKE SURE EVERYBODY KNOWS WHAT HER TITLE ONE OF HER TITLES ARE.

ONE OF MANY.

YEAH, I WAS GONNA SAY ONE OF MANY.

UH, AND WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT THAT.

I MEAN, THAT'S A, YOU KNOW, THAT'S A BIG DEAL TO TAKE A, A SCIENTIFICALLY, UH, UH, DEVELOPED INSTRUMENT TO SEE EXACTLY WHERE YOU ARE IN YOUR AGENCY.

AND, UM, YOU KNOW, THE TRUTH OF THE MATTER IS THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO MAY NOT COME FORWARD FOR RISK OF FEAR OF REPRISALS.

SO THIS MAY ALSO GIVE US AN OPPORTUNITY TO SAY, THESE ARE THINGS WE NEED TO FIX WITHIN OUR CULTURE, BEYOND THE THINGS THAT WE'RE WORKING ON NOW.

UH, AND, AND THERE WAS AN ADDITIONAL ON, ON FAMILY VIOLENCE THAT I WANTED TO MAKE EVERYBODY AWARE OF.

UM, I PARTICIPATED

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AND WE LEARNED THAT MANY OF OUR NON-ENGLISH SPEAKING VICTIMS ACROSS HARRIS COUNTY ARE BEING UNDERSERVED WHEN IT COMES TO FAMILY VIOLENCE.

AND A LOT OF IT HAS TO DO WITH, UH, THE LANGUAGE BARRIER, A LACK OF RESOURCES THAT I DIDN'T REALIZE THIS, THAT OTHER AGENCIES HAVE IN, UH, IN, IN, UH, TRANSLATION SERVICES.

NOW WE HAVE LANGUAGE LINE HERE.

WE HAVE HISPANIC, UH, OFFICERS WHO ARE BILINGUAL.

WE HAVE, UH, CAUCASIAN OFFICERS WHO ARE BILINGUAL.

SO SOUNDS LIKE WE MAY BE DOING A LITTLE BIT BETTER, BUT WE ALSO IDENTIFIED SOME OTHER ISSUES THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, IF WE'RE NOT CAREFUL, WHAT THEY'RE SEEING IS, UM, THE HISPANIC VICTIMS WILL NOT CALL POLICE BECAUSE THEY DON'T FEEL LIKE ANYTHING'S BEING DONE.

AND THAT'S SOMETHING ELSE THAT I WANT US TO LOOK AT HERE WITH OUR OFFICERS AND OUR HISPANIC OUTREACH TEAM WITH LIEUTENANT HINOJOSA IS A START, AND THEY'RE MAKING A GOOD IMPACT IN OUR COMMUNITY, BUT IT HAS TO BE BEYOND JUST THE HISPANIC OFFICERS IN OUR DEPARTMENT THAT ARE DOING THAT OUTREACH.

UM, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE FOLLOWING UP, THAT WE'RE TAKING THE TIME.

AND THAT KIND OF GOES BACK TO THAT 10 MORE MINUTES IDEA, IS I NEED TO SLOW DOWN AND MAKE SURE THAT I'M SEEING EVERYTHING THAT I, THAT, THAT I NEED TO, ESPECIALLY WHEN I HAVE SOMEONE THAT THERE MIGHT BE A LANGUAGE BARRIER.

UM, SO THE, THE JUDGE SAID THAT SHE WOULD ADVOCATE FOR ALL AGENCIES TO RECEIVE PROPER RESOURCES, UM, AND, UH, THEY'RE ALSO BEGINNING TO USE, UH, UH, ELECTRONIC SERVICE FOR PROTECTION AGAINST ABUSE ORDERS.

SO, UH, THAT SHOULD HELP WITH SOME OF THAT AS WELL.

UM, CAN YOU CLARIFY THAT REAL QUICK? NO, I HAVE, I HAVE A MM-HMM .

I HAVE A QUESTION.

UM, WAS THERE ANYTHING THAT YOU FOUND THAT SOME, SOME PEOPLE DO NOT CALL BECAUSE THEY'RE AFRAID OF DEPORTATION BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT CITIZENS MM-HMM .

OR THEY'RE HERE? YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT SEEING THAT AS MUCH AS I THINK WE, WE USED TO.

POLICE CHIEFS ON DISCUSSING AN MOU FOR HOW WE'RE GONNA RESPOND TO AN ACTIVE SHOOTER IN A SCHOOL OR ANOTHER CRITICAL INCIDENT.

UM, NOW ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HAS COME UP, THIS IS OUTSIDE OF THE HISPANIC LATINA COMMUNITY WITH SOME OF THE, UH, HUMAN TRAFFICKING CASES THAT WE'VE WORKED RECENTLY UNDER THE SPECIAL INVESTIGATIONS DIVISION WITH OUR, UH, UH, ASIAN CULTURE, IS THAT YOU HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE LIVING IN ONE PLACE MM-HMM .

AND THEY'RE ENGAGING IN HUMAN TRAFFICKING, SEX TRAFFICKING, AND THEY WILL WITHHOLD THEIR DOCUMENTS.

RIGHT? UH, SO THEY'RE AFRAID TO CALL BECAUSE THERE'S NO DOCUMENTATION ON WHO THEY ARE, AND THEN THEY'RE AFRAID THAT THEY'LL JUST BE KINDA LEFT OUT THERE.

AND THEY, THEY'RE, THEY'RE NOT HERE LEGALLY.

PLUS, UH, THE, THE PEOPLE WHO ARE RENTING THESE ORGANIZATIONS ARE TELLING THEM YOU'RE ENGAGED IN ILLEGAL ACTIVITY, SO YOU'RE DOUBLE LEGAL, YOU KNOW, UH, UH, CULPABLE.

SO, UH, THOSE ARE THINGS WE'RE HAVING TO OVERCOME.

BUT WE DO HAVE, UH, YOU KNOW, SOME GOOD VICTIMS ADVOCACY GROUPS TOO, THAT WE CAN DRAW ON.

AND I KNOW, UH, I KNOW THEY'RE DOING, UH, AS MUCH AS THEY CAN WITH THEM.

UM, UH, I BELIEVE, I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS IN THE MIDDLE OF THE MEETING OR IF SOMEBODY APPROACHED ME AFTERWARDS, BUT THERE WAS A CONCERN ABOUT ACTIVE SHOOTERS IN THE SCHOOL.

UM, YOU KNOW, OF COURSE, VALDI IS A HOT TOPIC RIGHT NOW.

UM, FOUR WEEKS AGO, I REQUESTED, UH, OUR BAYTOWN, EOC MANAGER, UH, DAVID ALAMIA TO ASSIST IN ORGANIZING A MULTI-AGENCY TABLETOP EXERCISE REGARDING ACTIVE SHOOTERS IN OUR SCHOOLS.

UH, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT CHIEF DAVIS SMITH WITH G-C-C-I-S-D PD AND I HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT SINCE, UH, ABOUT OCTOBER OF LAST YEAR.

UH, BUT TRYING TO GET EVERYTHING JUST SO MUCH TO DO WHEN YOU'RE, WHEN YOU'RE NEW.

UM, SO WE, UH, WE GOT THIS UP AND RUNNING AND, UH, THEY PUT TOGETHER A REALLY GOOD PRESENTATION.

UH, LIEUTENANT EVANS PARTICIPATED IN IT, UM, AND, UH, IT WAS, UH, G-C-C-I-S-D, UH, ADMINISTRATION FROM THE, THE, THE FRONT OFFICE, UH, BAYTOWN POLICE DEPARTMENT, UH, THE SCHOOL SYSTEMS POLICE DEPARTMENT, OUR FIRE AND RESCUE, AS WELL AS PUBLIC RELATIONS FROM THE SCHOOLS, FROM THE PD AND FROM CITY HALL.

AND IT WAS A VERY SUCCESSFUL TABLETOP EXERCISE.

IT'S GONNA BE THE FOUNDATION FOR A FULL SCALE DRILL THAT WE'LL CONDUCT AT A LATER TIME, AND WE'LL EXPAND THAT OUT TO INCLUDE OTHER LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES.

AND, UM, WE WERE ABLE TO TEST SOME OF OUR POLICIES AND PROCEDURES.

MOST OF THEM HELD UP, ESPECIALLY ON OUR END, ON THE BAYTOWN SIDE.

UM, GCC ISDS PD IS STILL RELATIVELY NEW, UH, FROM MY UNDERSTANDING.

SO THEY'RE, UH, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE WORKING THROUGH SOME THINGS, BUT WE ALSO HAD SOME IMPROVEMENT ITEMS THAT WERE BEING, THAT WE'RE CATALOGING NOW FOR AN AFTER ACTION REPORT.

AND THEN THIS MORNING I PARTICIPATED IN A MEETING WITH, UH, UH, DISTRICT ATTORNEY KIM OG, UH, LED BY SHERIFF GONZALEZ STAFF AND CHIEF TROY NER.

AND IT WAS STANDING ROOM ONLY FOR AREA

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SO THESE ARE THINGS THAT'LL BE COMING OUT SO THAT OUR CITIZENS KNOW, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS BEFORE IT OCCURRED.

WE HAVE A PLAN OF ACTION FOR HOW WE'RE GONNA HANDLE IT, AND A PLAN TO SUPPORT EACH OTHER IF AND WHEN IT DOES HAPPEN.

ANYTHING ELSE? AS GREAT AS I CAN BE.

ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMITTEE ON ANYTHING FROM THE FOLLOW UP FROM THE LAST MEETING ON, ON HIS CITIZEN'S INPUT, UH, FROM ITEM TWO B? ALL RIGHTY, CHIEF, THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH.

REALLY APPRECIATE THAT.

AND, UM, LOOKING FORWARD TO SEEING FURTHER, FURTHER, UH, INPUT FROM THE COMMUNITY AS WELL AS, UH, FOLLOW UP ON THAT IN THE NEAR FUTURE.

ON TO ITEM THREE A AND RECEIVE AND DISCUSS COMMUNITY INPUT OBTAINED BY THE BAYTOWN POLICE ADVISORY COMMITTEE MEMBERS.

MOVING

[a. Receive and discuss community input obtained by the Baytown Police Advisory Committee Members.]

SO, FROM THE COUNT, FROM THE, THE COMMITTEE HERE, IS THERE ANY INPUT THAT YOU'VE RECEIVED THAT WE NEED TO BRING TO THE FOREFRONT AND, UM, BE AWARE OF IT, UH, FOR THE FUTURE TO DISCUSS EITHER TONIGHT OR IN THE, IN THE NEAR FUTURE? READY? NOTHING READY TO SHARE.

NOTHING.

NOTHING READY TO, NOTHING READY TO SHARE.

THAT'S UNDERSTANDABLE.

ON TO, UH, ITEM FOUR A AND RECEIVE A REPORT AND DISCUSS THE STATUS OF POLICE OUTREACH, COMMUNITY POLICING OFFICER TRAINING AND POLICIES AND PROCEDURES BACK TO YOU, CHIEF .

THEN WE'RE GONNA MOVE

[a. Receive a report and discuss the status of police outreach, community policing, officer training and policies and procedures.]

UH, SO WE ARE ARE STILL PRETTY MUCH, WELL, EXCUSE ME, WE'RE STILL WHERE WE ARE, UH, MOVING FORWARD WITH, WITH WHAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON WITH THE PD SO FAR.

UM, THE BIGGEST THING RIGHT NOW GOES BACK TO THE, UH, UH, COMBINED EFFORTS ON HOW WE'RE GOING TO ADDRESS CRITICAL INCIDENTS, ESPECIALLY AT THE SCHOOLS, AND MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE THE APPROPRIATE, UM, MOUS, OR, I BELIEVE THEY'RE CALLED INTERAGENCY INTERLOCAL AGENCY AGREEMENTS.

IS THAT IT? YES.

UM, SO WE'RE, WE'RE WORKING ON THAT.

AND THAT'S OUR, OUR, OUR BIGGEST THING OUTSIDE OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT RIGHT NOW.

SO IT'S MORE THAN JUST, UH, GOOSE CREEK SCHOOLS.

IT'S ALSO BARBERS HILLS, BECAUSE WE ARE, UH, YOU KNOW, WE ARE CLOSE TO THEM AND, UH, WE HAVE, WE HAVE THE RESOURCES THAT THEY MIGHT NEED, AND WE'LL BE ABLE TO GET THERE A LOT QUICKER THAN ANY OTHER AGENCY, UH, OUR SIZE.

UH, THE OTHER THING THAT, UH, WE'RE CURRENTLY DOING WITH OUR TRAINING IS THE, UH, FIREARMS, UH, TRAINING SIMULATOR, THE FIREARMS TRAINING SIMULATOR.

WHILE IT IS A TOOL THAT, UH, GAUGES OFFICERS DECISIONS TO USE DEADLY FORCE IS NOT REALLY HOW WE USE IT IN AS MUCH AS WE USE IT AS A DEESCALATION TOOL.

AND WE USE IT TO TEACH CRITICAL THINKING.

SO AN OFFICER CAN BE INVOLVED IN A SCENARIO THAT CAN BE CONTROLLED BY THE INSTRUCTOR.

SO IF THE OFFICER, UH, ENGAGES SOMEONE AND THEY ARE SUCCESSFULLY ATTEMPTING DEESCALATION TACTICS, THEN THE, UH, INSTRUCTOR CAN ACTUALLY SIT BACK AT A KEYBOARD AND CHOOSE TO MAKE THE PERSON COMPLIANT, UH, VERBALLY NON-COMPLIANT, BUT PHYSICALLY COMPLIANT SO THAT THEY'RE JUST ARGUING WITH THEM, OR THEY CAN ACTUALLY MAKE YOU ATTACK.

AND WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO WITH THIS IS ELIMINATE WHAT WE CALL TRAINING SCARS.

SO TRAINING SCARS EXIST WHEN EVERY TIME YOU GO INTO A SCENARIO, YOU DO THE SAME THING OVER AND OVER AGAIN.

IT COULD BE A SCENARIO, OR IT COULD BE, UM, FOR EXAMPLE, WHERE EVERY TIME AN OFFICER GOES INTO THIS SCENARIO, THEY HAVE TO DRAW THEIR WEAPON AND SHOOT.

IF WE'RE NOT CAREFUL, THAT'S WHAT WE CARRY OUT ON THE STREET WITH US, OR ANY KIND OF USE OF FORCE, WHETHER IT'S PEPPER SPRAY, TASER, BATON, UM, STRIKES.

SO WE'RE TRYING TO TEACH OFFICERS IN THAT MOMENT OF HIGH STRESS TO THINK CRITICALLY, AND TO, TO UNDERSTAND THAT IT'S OKAY TO TAKE A DEEP BREATH, THAT YOU'RE NOT SACRIFICING OFFICER SAFETY.

UH, YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE KEEPING YOUR DISTANCE AND YOU'RE DOING THE THINGS THAT YOU'RE TRAINED TO DO, THAT YOU CAN TAKE A, A VERY BRIEF SECOND TO GET YOUR BREATH AND TO THINK ABOUT HOW I'M GONNA DO MY BEST TO DEESCALATE THIS.

UM, AND, AND WE'RE SEEING SUCCESS WITH THAT.

I WENT THROUGH IT LAST WEEK AND I WAS IMPRESSED WITH IT.

UM, IT WAS A VERY GOOD, UH, VERY GOOD TRAINING SCENARIO OUT, OUT OF, UH, FIVE OR SIX SCENARIOS.

I ONLY HAD ONE WHERE I HAD TO DRAW MY WEAPON.

AND, UM, YOU KNOW, AFTER EACH SCENARIO, THE INSTRUCTORS DEBRIEF, THE OFFICERS, WHAT WERE YOU THINKING? WHAT DID YOU SEE? WELL, WHAT DOES POLICY SAY ABOUT THIS? SO WE'RE, WE'RE MEASURING IT.

WE'RE MEASURING IT AGAINST POLICY.

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WE'RE MEASURING IT AGAINST, UH, NOT ONLY, UH, STATE LAW, BUT ALSO CONSTITUTIONAL LAW.

'CAUSE WE TALK A LOT ABOUT, UH, UH, FOURTH AMENDMENT SEARCH AND SEIZURE, BECAUSE ANY USE OF FORCE AGAINST A CITIZEN IS A, UH, A FOURTH AMENDMENT SEIZURE.

SO WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR OFFICERS ARE THINKING ABOUT ALL OF THIS STUFF VERY, VERY QUICKLY IN A MATTER OF SECONDS OR, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, NANOSECONDS, UH, IN SOME, SOME INSTANCES.

UH, SO THESE ARE ALL THE THINGS THAT THEY HAVE TO CARRY WITH THEM INTO A SCENARIO BEFORE THEY EVER GO INTO IT.

UM, PART OF THAT TOO, ALSO INCLUDED OUR PHYSICAL AGILITY TEST, WHICH IS A ROWING TEST.

UH, IT'S A 2000 METER ROW FOR TIME.

AND, UH, IT, IT'S BANDED BY AGE.

UM, AND, UH, YOU KNOW, OUR OFFICERS IMMEDIATELY GO DO THAT AFTERWARDS.

SO, UH, ANY, ANY OF YOU WHO WOULD LIKE TO GO THROUGH OUR FIREARMS TRAINING SIMULATOR AND DO OUR PHYSICAL AGILITY TEST, I'D LOVE TO SET THAT UP FOR YOU TO, TO DO IT.

I THINK IT GIVES PEOPLE AN, UH, AN APPRECIATION OF WHAT ALL WE'RE ASKING OUR POLICE OFFICERS ON THE STREET TO DO.

AND, UM, UH, YOU KNOW, IF YOU, IF IF YOU BEAT MY TIME, I'LL BUY YOU LUNCH.

SO, UH, HOW MANY HOURS A WEEK DO YOU WORK OUT A WEEK? NO, I'M PICKING .

IF YOU DON'T, YOU HAVE TO COME FOR REMEDIAL TRAINING FOR, OKAY.

OFF OFF QUESTION, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, UM, COMBINED AGENCIES MM-HMM .

AND WE HAD LIKE A MAJOR CATASTROPHE AT OUR BORDER OF BAYTOWN MM-HMM .

EXPLOSIONS OR THE FLARES THIS MORNING IN MOUNT BELLEVUE.

TO SEE SOME TRACTION WITH THAT.

UM, WHAT WAS, WHAT WAS THE, UH, COMBINED EFFORT MAYBE BETWEEN BAYTOWN MM-HMM .

AND MOUNT BELLEVUE POLICE DEPARTMENTS TO BLOCK STREETS? MM-HMM .

EVACUATE HOUSES.

WHAT WAS THERE A GROUP TASK FORCE FOR THIS MORNING? SO, NO, THERE WAS NOT, BUT THE, THE MUTUAL AID WAS ABSOLUTELY AVAILABLE.

HAD IT BEEN CALLED UPON, UH, THE ORIGINATING AGENCY WOULD BE THE, UH, THE, THE INCIDENT COMMAND, UNLESS THEY NEEDED RESOURCES THAT ONLY WE COULD PROVIDE.

AND THEN WE WOULD COME IN, WE WOULDN'T NECESSARILY TAKE OVER, BUT WE'D BRING OUR COMMAND POST IN, AND WE'D ALL BE IN THE COMMAND POST WORKING TOGETHER.

THEY WOULD MAINTAIN THAT INCIDENT COMMANDER'S POSITION, AND THEN WE WOULD BE MANAGING OUR RESOURCES AS BRANCH COMMANDERS OR DIVISION COMMANDERS OF THE, OF THE INCIDENT.

SO THAT WASN'T NEEDED THIS MORNING? NOT THIS MORNING, LIKE BLOCKING OFF I 10 OR ANYTHING? NO, NO.

WE WEREN'T REQUESTED THIS MORNING.

JUST CURIOUS.

BUT WE WOULD'VE BEEN AVAILABLE.

ALL RIGHT, WE'RE MOVING ON TO ITEM FOUR B.

ALRIGHT, LET ME STOP REAL QUICK.

I, I SHOULD HAVE ASKED, ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FOR ITEM FOUR A FOR CHIEF? ALRIGHTY.

THEN WE'LL MOVE ON TO

[b. Receive a report on the implementation of the Mental Health Initiative administered by the Baytown Police Department. ]

ITEM FOUR B.

RECEIVE A REPORT ON THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE MENTAL HEALTH INITIATIVE ADMINISTERED BY THE BAYTOWN POLICE DEPARTMENT.

SO I'M GONNA TAKE CARE OF THAT ONE TOO.

UH, OUR MENTAL HEALTH INITIATIVE CONTINUES TO GO WELL.

UM, WE STILL HAVE ONLY 20, UH, CORE IPADS AT THIS TIME, BUT WE'RE TRYING TO, UH, TO GET MORE, WE WANT TO EXPAND THAT PROGRAM.

UH, AND THAT'S THE BIGGEST THING THAT WE'RE SEEING RIGHT NOW, IS THAT YES, WE DO HAVE, UH, HIGHER INCIDENTS OF CALLS FROM MENTAL HEALTH, UH, COMPLAINTS IN OUR COMMUNITY.

AND, UM, WE REALLY THINK THAT EXPANDING THAT CORE PROGRAM WILL BENEFIT US.

UM, ALL OF OUR OFFICERS HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE CRISIS INTERVENTION TRAINING, THAT'S 40 HOURS.

AND, AND I DID THAT VERY RECENTLY, AND IT WAS VERY GOOD.

IT INCLUDES A LOT OF DEESCALATION TRAINING.

UM, BUT MORE THAN ANYTHING, IT TEACHES OUR OFFICERS HOW TO COMMUNICATE WITH PEOPLE IN A CRISIS, HOW TO ASK THE RIGHT QUESTIONS AND HOW TO POINT THEM TO THE APPROPRIATE RESOURCES.

UH, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE THAT, UH, I ONLY HAVE ONE, SO, UM, I CAN'T PASS 'EM OUT.

UM, THIS COMES FROM THE HARRIS CENTER, UH, MENTAL HEALTH AND IDD, UH, BUT IT'S A, IT'S A MAGNET THAT HAS THE NEW, UH, NATIONAL HOTLINE THAT REPLACES THE OLD, UH, UH, NATIONAL SUICIDE HOTLINE.

THIS IS FOR CRISIS INTERVENTION AS WELL, THAT YOU CAN CALL.

AND IT'S 9 8 8.

SO IT'S A VERY SIMPLE NUMBER.

WE ALL KNOW 9 1 1, AND WE'RE GONNA BE GETTING THESE OUT TO OUR OFFICERS SO THAT THEY CAN DISTRIBUTE THEM TO OUR COMMUNITY TOO, BECAUSE WE MAY HAVE PEOPLE WHO ARE IN A CRISIS OR FOR WHATEVER REASON, THEY JUST DON'T WANT TO, TO, TO HAVE SOMEONE COME TO THEIR HOUSE.

BUT THIS WILL GIVE THEM AN OPPORTUNITY TO, TO, TO CONNECT TO OTHER RESOURCES AS WELL.

UH, NOW IF WE HAVE SOMEBODY ON THIS LINE THAT, UH, UM, WE HAVE SOMEBODY ON THE LINE THAT'S SUICIDAL, THEY'RE GOING TO REACH OUT TO US THROUGH OUR DISPATCH CENTER AND MAKE SURE THAT THEY GET SOMEONE SENT OUT, WHETHER IT'S BAYTOWN POLICE DEPARTMENT, HOUSTON, OR OR WHOEVER IT MIGHT BE, THEY'RE GONNA MAKE SURE THAT THEY GET THOSE IMMEDIATE RESOURCES OUT THERE.

UM, THE, UH, THE, UH, UH, BAY AREA MENTAL HEALTH COALITION, UH, WE'RE STARTING

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UM, WE HAD REPRESENTATIVES FROM, UH, UH, SENATOR, UH, OR CONGRESSMAN BAIN'S OFFICE, AND THEY WERE VERY INTERESTED IN HOW THEY MIGHT BE ABLE TO HELP US.

THEY UNDERSTAND THAT MENTAL HEALTH IS, UM, NOT ONLY A BIG DEAL, BUT WE MAY BE ABLE TO REDUCE THE INCIDENTS OF SOME OF THE CRIMINAL ACTIVITY THAT'S REPORTED BECAUSE IT'S SIMPLY MISUNDERSTOOD AS, AS MENTAL HEALTH CRISIS.

AWESOME.

QUESTION.

CHIEF, UM, YOU MENTIONED EXPANSION OF THE COURT PROGRAM.

ARE THERE ANY BARRIERS IN THE WAY OF DOING THAT? IS IT A AND IF SO, IS THOSE BARRIERS AT THAT COUNTY LEVEL? OR IS I, I KNOW CITY COUNCIL IS BACKING US A HUNDRED PERCENT ON DOING THIS.

SO IT, WHAT ARE THE BARRIERS YOU'RE FACING IN EXPANDING? I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'RE REALLY HAVING ANY BARRIERS.

IT'S JUST A MATTER OF GETTING THROUGH THE PROCESS OF GETTING THE IPADS WHEN THEY'RE AVAILABLE.

UM, BUT I ALSO UNDERSTAND, AND, AND I, I MAY BE MISUNDERSTANDING COMPLETELY ON THIS, BUT THERE'S ALSO THE ABILITY TO BE ABLE TO GET THIS PROGRAM FOR CHAMBERS COUNTY AS WELL.

NOW.

UM, THAT WOULD BE A BENEFIT.

AND YEAH.

AND, AND THAT'S THE THING.

IF, IF WE HAVE TO GO OVER INTO CHAMBERS COUNTY AND, AND WE NEED TO USE 'EM IN, IN BAYTOWN CITY LIMITS, WE'RE GOING TO, UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT THAT MEANS FOR THE FOLLOW UP SIDE OF IT MAY BE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT.

UM, BUT WE'RE, WE'RE GONNA DO OUR BEST TO GET, UH, YOU KNOW, TO GET THE CITIZENS THE HELP THAT THEY NEED.

AND, AND I'LL TELL YOU TOO, THAT ALSO DOVETAILS INTO OUR HOMELESS POPULATION.

UM, WE HAVE A, A SERGEANT WHO SEEMS TO HAVE A HEART FOR THE HOMELESS, AND AS WE BEGIN TO INCREASE OUR PERSONNEL ON PATROL, I WOULD LIKE TO BE ABLE TO ASSIGN HIM AND MAYBE A COUPLE OF OFFICERS THAT ANCILLARY DUTY OF MAKING CONTACT WITH THE HOMELESS AND SEE HOW WE CAN ASSIST THEM.

I KNOW CITY COUNCIL, UH, COUNCILMAN JOHNSON IS VERY SUPPORTIVE OF THIS YES.

AND THE REST OF CITY COUNCIL.

SO IF YOU HAVE A BARRIER OF ANY KIND THAT WE CAN ASSIST WITH, LET US KNOW.

I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'RE NECESSARILY HAVING A BARRIER.

IT'S JUST STEPS THAT WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH AND MAKING SURE THAT THE, THEY'RE GONNA SERVE THE, THE, THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT FIRST.

YEP.

AND THEN, THEN, THEN WE'LL BE ABLE TO GET IN ON IT TOO.

SO.

THAT MAKES SENSE.

IN REGARD TO THE, THE MENTAL HEALTH, UH, INITIATIVE AND THE CORE, UM, I KNOW THAT, THAT THERE HAVE BEEN SOME, SOME NUMBERS COME OUT MM-HMM .

UM, REGARDING THE DEMOGRAPHICS AND ALL OF THAT.

ARE THERE SOME INITIATIVES, YOU KNOW, WITHIN, OR ARE THERE SOME, SOME VOCALIZED THINGS WITHIN THIS MENTAL HEALTH INITIATIVE TO ADDRESS MAYBE THE, THE MINUTE DETAILS OF, OF WHAT'S GOING ON HERE? MEANING, YOU KNOW, LIKE YOU MENTIONED A WHILE AGO, THE, THE, UH, THE LATINO COMMUNITY MM-HMM .

IN THAT AREA.

ARE, ARE THERE, ARE THERE THINGS THAT, THAT AS THE COMMITTEE THAT MAYBE WE CAN ADVISE COUNSEL TO, TO FOCUS ON? OR IS THERE SOMETHING THAT AS THE COMMITTEE, WE NEED TO HELP DRIVE SOMETHING FORWARD IN, IN THIS MENTAL HEALTH INITIATIVE THAT CAN HELP IN SPECIFIC DEMOGRAPHICS? SO, BEYOND JUST THE, THE, THE SPECIFIC DEMOGRAPHICS.

'CAUSE WHAT WE'RE SEEING IS IT, IT, IT'S, IT'S PRETTY WELL SPREAD ACROSS.

ALL CULTURES RACE, THE, THE, THE WHOLE NINE YARDS.

WHAT I THINK THE COMMITTEE COULD REALLY HELP US WITH IS IF YOU KNOW SOMEBODY WHO WANTS TO GET INVOLVED, ESPECIALLY A MENTAL HEALTH PROFESSIONAL IN THE BAY AREA, WE WOULD LOVE THEIR INFORMATION TO GET THEM INVOLVED WITH THEIR COALITION, BECAUSE WE'RE STILL NEEDING TO ASSEMBLE ALL THOSE RESOURCES AND GET 'EM IN ONE ROOM AND GET 'EM TALKING AND COME UP WITH A UNIFIED VOICE AND A DIRECTION ON HOW WE'RE GOING TO PROCEED TO ASSIST THE PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITY THAT NEED THAT HELP.

AND AGAIN, I'LL GO BACK TO OUR HOMELESS POPULATION.

VERY OFTEN OUR HOMELESS POPULATION ARE HOMELESS BECAUSE THERE IS A, A A A, A MENTAL HEALTH NEXUS TO IT, AND I'D REALLY LIKE TO BE ABLE TO HELP 'EM.

UM, SO THAT MEANS GETTING RESOURCES FOR, FOR THE HOMELESS AS WELL.

UM, AND RIGHT NOW IT'S KIND OF AN OVERWHELMING TASK WHEN YOU CONSIDER HOW MANY ORGANIZATIONS ARE OUT THERE.

UM, EVERYBODY HAS A CONNECTION, BUT YOU LOOK AT IT AND YOU SAY, WOW, WHERE DO I START? SO, UM, BEING IN THE MINISTRY, UH, THE SCHOOL MEDICAL PROFESSION, UH, BUSINESS, YOU KNOW, IF YOU COME ACROSS PEOPLE WHO ARE WORKING WITH THESE ORGANIZATIONS, GIVE 'EM MY EMAIL ADDRESS AND I WILL CONNECT THEM TO, UH, LIEUTENANT DORIS.

AWESOME.

I, I HAVE A QUESTION.

UM, IN TERMS OF THE 20 CORE IPADS THAT WE HAVE MM-HMM .

AND THEY, THEY WERE IMPLEMENTED, WAS IT EARLIER THIS SPRING? THAT IT WENT SEPTEMBER.

OH, WAS IT SEPTEMBER? YEAH, JUST AS HE WAS COMING ON BOARD.

DID, UH, SEPTEMBER 9TH.

I, I THINK IT ACTUALLY WENT, UH, WENT LIVE AT THE END OF NOVEMBER, BEGINNING OF DECEMBER.

HAD JUST APPROVED IT WHEN I GOT HERE.

SO EPTEMBER, BUT THEY WERE, THEY HAD JUST, THE COUNCIL

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SO THEY HAD TO GET ALL THAT IN AND GET THE TRAINING OUT.

AND SO AT, AS OF YET, HAVE THEY BEEN ACTIVELY USING THESE IPADS? LIKE, OH YES.

YOU HAVE, YOU KNOW, DOCUMENTATION OF HOW OFTEN THEY'RE SEEN.

UH, LIEUTENANT, THEY, THEY ACTUALLY HAVE TO HAVE TO REPORT THAT.

AND I THINK THAT THE IPADS ACTUALLY COME WITH A, A, A FUNCTION THAT ACTUALLY REPORTS IT BACK TO, UH, TO THE, THE MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES THAT PROVIDE IT FOR US.

BUT, UH, LIEUTENANT DORIS CAN GET US THE NUMBERS ON, ON, ON USAGE, AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S, UH, CONSISTENTLY WE'RE, WE'RE USING THEM.

UM, I THINK I'VE TOLD YOU BEFORE, WITHIN 20 MINUTES OF THE FIRST GROUP BEING TRAINED ON IT, WE HAD TO SAVE.

UM, SO WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE SEEING 'EM USED ON A REGULAR BASIS, PROBABLY.

I WANT, I BELIEVE HE TOLD ME LAST TIME IT WAS ABOUT 15, 20 TIMES A MONTH THAT WE'RE USING.

UM, AND THAT MAY BE AN AVERAGE OR MAYBE SOME MONTHS WHERE WE'RE USE 'EM MORE, SOME MONTHS WHERE WE USE THEM LESS.

I'D BE INTERESTED TO SEE HOW THE DIFFERENT SEASONS OF THE YEAR AFFECT THAT AS WELL.

I WOULD TOO.

UH, I WAS ACTUALLY THINKING ABOUT THAT AS OPPOSED AS RELATED TO CRIME PATTERNS.

UH, TYPICALLY DURING THE, THE, THE HOTTER MONTHS, UH, LAW ENFORCEMENT IN GENERAL WILL SEE MORE VIOLENT CRIME OCCUR.

UM, AND I WAS ACTUALLY THINKING ABOUT THAT THIS MORNING.

I KNOW THAT WE'VE, UH, SEEMED TO HAVE HAD A REDUCTION IN SOME OF OUR VIOLENT CRIME, BUT RIGHT NOW THAT'S ANECDOTAL WITHOUT US PULLING THE STATS ON.

IT'S ONE OF THE THINGS I WAS THINKING ABOUT COMING IN THIS MORNING.

'CAUSE I BROKE A SWEAT FROM THE GARAGE TO MY CAR, .

SO WHEN YOU SAID SAVE, JUST JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, WHEN YOU SAID WE HAD A SAVE MM-HMM .

ARE YOU ABLE TO, LIKE, WHAT, WHAT IS THAT DEFINITION FOR YOU? MEANING LIKE, HAD WE NOT HAD THE IPADS, WE HAD A SUICIDAL VETERAN.

UH, AND, AND HE ACTUALLY SENT AN EMAIL TO ME, UM, THANKING US FOR THE OFFICER'S RESPONSE.

UH, WE USED THE, UH, CIT TRAINING TO DEESCALATE.

ONCE WE WERE DEESCALATED, WE WERE ABLE TO USE THE CORE, UH, UH, IPAD.

AND THEN BEYOND THAT, THE OFFICERS JUST SAT AND TALKED TO HIM.

AND THAT, YOU KNOW, WHILE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THAT, THAT REINFORCES THE IDEA OF 10 MORE MINUTES.

JUST LISTEN TO SOMEBODY.

UM, IT'S AMAZING WHAT, JUST A FEW EXTRA MINUTES OF, OF SHOWING AN INTEREST IN SOMEBODY CAN DO.

UM, AND IT WAS A BIG DEAL TO THIS GUY.

IT WAS A VERY BIG DEAL TO HIM.

SO YOU'VE MENTIONED 10 MORE MINUTES, THREE TIMES.

SO I'M WONDERING, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU'RE GOING TO IMPLEMENT ACROSS YOUR, IT'S SOMETHING WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE GONNA ASK OUR OFFICERS TO DO, UM, IS, IS IT CAN, BECAUSE YOU CAN'T DO IT AS A POLICY, BECAUSE THERE'S GONNA BE TIMES WHERE YOU GOTTA GO.

UM, BUT AS A PHILOSOPHY, IT GETS US ENGAGED IN THE COMMUNITY.

UM, YOU KNOW, I WAS SURPRISED, UH, UH, HOW MANY PEOPLE JUST LIKED ME RIDING THROUGH THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD WITH MY WINDOW DOWN, WAVING AT 'EM, YOU KNOW? UM, AND THAT WAS A BIG DEAL TO SOME OF THE FOLKS, UH, UM, OVER ON THE STATE STREETS AND STUFF, SO.

[c. Consider setting any tasks and processes for future meetings to include, but not limited to: Community Engagement Initiatives; and Discuss ideas for the BPAC's public service announcement to be advertised on Channel 16 and social media.]

ITEM NUMBER FOUR C.

AND THAT IS CONSIDERING SETTING ANY TASK AND PROCESSES FOR FUTURE MEETINGS TO INCLUDE BUT NOT LIMITED TO FOR COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT INITIATIVES, AND DISCUSS IDEAS FOR BPAC C'S PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT TO BE ADVERTISED ON CHANNEL 16 AND SOCIAL MEDIA.

AND, UM, SO, UM, I KNOW THAT OUR LAST, OUR LAST MEETING, UH, OVER AT LEE COLLEGE WAS A SUCCESS, UH, BECAUSE WE HAD SO MUCH INPUT AND, UH, WE TRIED TO GET THE INFORMATION OUT TO ALL OF THE SAME CHANNELS, UH, FOR THIS MEETING.

UM, SO LET'S START WITH THAT.

ARE THERE ANY ITEMS THAT WE NEED TO PUT ON A FUTURE TASK, LIZ, FOR OUR FUTURE MEETINGS COMING UP, THE NIGHT OUT IS OCTOBER.

SO WE'RE THREE MONTHS OUT, SO WE SHOULD PUT SOMETHING ON THE AGENDA TO TALK ABOUT WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO.

I'M GONNA DEFER OVER TO OUR CITY CLERK, HAS ANYTHING COME DOWN THE PIKE OR MAYBE BACK OVER TO OUR CITY ATTORNEY? HAS ANYTHING COME OUT? BECAUSE THAT WAS, IT WAS POSED TO THE COUNCIL AT THE REPORT, AT THE QUARTERLY REPORT ABOUT US NOT HAVING ANY TYPE OF BUDGET OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

I DIDN'T KNOW IF ANYTHING HAD COME OUT OF FOR PROVIDING SPACE.

UM, WITHOUT A DOUBT WE CAN GET A BOOTH.

UM, WHAT I DID TRY, AND I DON'T HAVE A RESPONSE YET, IS I DID REACH OUT TO, UH, MR. DAVIS AND ASK IF WE COULD POSSIBLY FIND SOME FUNDS IN THE BUDGET TO GET A BANNER, UH, AND, YOU KNOW, PERHAPS SOME, UM, ACCESS TO CREATING SOME FLYERS AND THINGS LIKE

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THAT.

I DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER YET ON THAT, BUT I, I WILL KEEP ON IT.

UH, BUT WITHOUT A DOUBT, WE CAN DEFINITELY GET A BOOTH.

UM, AND, BUT THAT WOULD INVOLVE, UH, YOU KNOW, TABLES, CHAIRS, HOPEFULLY WE CAN GET A LITTLE TENT THING FROM PARKS AND REC.

THEY'RE USUALLY VERY GENEROUS WITH THAT TYPE OF STUFF.

OFFICER KINNI, WELL, LAST SHOT.

CAN YOU HEAR ME? NOPE.

TURNED IT OFF.

, WRONG BUTTON.

WELL, LAST YEAR I HAD, UH, ORGANIZED AN EVENT LAST YEAR AND, UH, WHAT IS HER NAME? ALICE.

ALICE, I THINK HER, THE ALICE.

ALICE.

UH, WE DID HAVE A TENT.

WE HAD TABLES FOR THE COUNCILMAN AND THE MAYOR.

WE ACTUALLY HAD A BANNER.

I THINK SHE STILL HAS THE, UH, BANNER, UM, FOR THE CITY COUNCILMAN TO SHOW UP.

UH, JUST LET ME KNOW.

THAT'S ALL YOU GOTTA DO.

WELL, WE'RE, WE'RE STILL WORKING ON THE, IF WE'RE GONNA STILL DO THAT OR DO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, UH, GOING OUT TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD, SO WE'RE STILL DISCUSSING THAT.

WE'RE STILL WAITING ON WORDS, UH, IF WE'RE GONNA DO IT RIGHT NOW.

BUT JUST LET ME KNOW.

AND IF WE DO GO THAT ROUTE AT TOWN, I'M TRYING TO DO IT AT TOWN SQUARE.

SO YOU JUST GOTTA LET ME KNOW AND I'LL SET YOU UP.

SO ARE YOU SAYING THAT YOU HAVE FUNDS TO GET A BANNER TOO? IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? NO, SHE GOT THE FUNDS.

, WE DON'T HAVE THE FUNDS FOR THAT WHO'LL, WHO'S NOT IN THAT BANNER BECAUSE I GAVE IT BACK TO HER.

SO SHE, IF YOU HAVE, UH, IF YOU HAVE ISSUES GETTING FUNDS FOR THE BANNER, LET ME KNOW AND I'LL TAKE CARE OF IT.

JUST GET ME AN ESTIMATE ON IT AND, UH, UH, BECAUSE BANNERS REALLY AREN'T THAT EXPENSIVE, SO, UH, WE'LL, WE'LL HELP YOU OUT.

WE CAN GET YOU STARTED.

AND ALICE, SHE MADE THE BANNER, SO, OKAY.

I WOULD, I WOULD REACH OUT TO HER.

ALL RIGHT.

AND SO MAYBE FOR THE FUTURE, WE MAY WANT TO ALSO CONSIDER LIKE WHAT WE WANT ON OUR BANNER.

HOW DO WE WANT TO DISPLAY, UM, THIS, THIS COMMITTEE? SO BE THINKING ABOUT THAT AND WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT AT OUR NEXT MEETING IF YOU GUYS WANT.

I, I'D SUGGEST THAT WE PUT THAT ON THE NEXT MEETING, BECAUSE I THINK WE'LL BE MOVING FAST.

UH, IN ORDER TO, UM, TO GET THAT APPROVED AND ALL.

SO WE'LL GET THAT SQUARED AWAY.

YES, MA'AM.

TO CLARIFY, WOULD WE, SO WE WOULD BE OUT IN THE PUBLIC, WOULD WE WANNA HAVE A, A QUESTIONNAIRE FOR PEOPLE TO COMPLETE OR, YOU KNOW, IF WE'RE SITTING OUT THERE TALKING TO PEOPLE, HOW ARE WE GONNA RECORD WHAT THEY WOULD LIKE SEEING BE SEEN DONE, OR WHAT THEY WANT TO PERCEIVE AS PROBLEMS? SO, WOULD WE WANNA DO A QUESTIONNAIRE? HOW DO WE, I MEAN, IF WE'RE OUT THERE, WE GOTTA GATHER DATA AND GATHER, YOU KNOW, IF WE'RE TALKING TO FOLKS SOME WAY TO REPORT BACK, CAN WE TAKE INPUT FROM CITIZENS WITHOUT THE DIRECTLY, LIKE THAT WE'RE AT THIS EVENT AND WE HAD A COMMENT FORM AND THEY DIDN'T PUT THEIR NAME OR ANYTHING ON IT.

IS THAT VALID FOR US TO TAKE AN ACTION ON? SURE.

ABSOLUTELY.

IT'S JUST WHEN THEY'RE SPEAKING, THEN WE NEED THEM TO IDENTIFY WHERE THEY'RE FROM, UM, RIGHT.

WHEN THEY COME UP HERE TO PUBLICLY SPEAK.

YES, THAT IS CORRECT.

IT DOESN'T, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY IF, IF THERE IS NO NAME, YOU KNOW, YOU, THERE CAN'T ALWAYS BE A QUESTION OF CREDIBILITY, I GUESS, AND FOLLOW UP STATE, BUT THERE'S NO REASON TO PUT A NAME.

NOTHING REQUIRES ANYONE TO DO THAT.

SO WE HAD A COMMENT FORM WITH SOME BASIC, YOU KNOW, AREAS THAT THEY COULD GIVE US INFORMATION OR GIVE US INPUT.

UM, WE COULD, WE COULD ACTION OFF THAT AS A LITTLE BIT ANYWAY.

AND IF THEY WANT A RESPONSE, INCLUDE THEIR NAME.

SO THERE'S TWO, TWO THINGS THAT ARE IN FRONT OF US THAT I THINK IS GONNA NEED SOME, SOME, UM, SOME PLANNING THAT IF, NUMBER ONE, IT'S ON THE NEXT AGENDA.

BUT NUMBER TWO, UM, I'M THINKING IN TERMS OF DESIGN OF THE BANNER MM-HMM .

UH, I THINK IT WOULD BE WISE.

AND, AND I'M, I'M GONNA SAY THIS, I DON'T HAVE TIME RIGHT NOW TO DO ANY, ANY TYPE OF DESIGN OR ANYTHING.

SO IS, IS THERE ANYONE ON THE COMMITTEE THAT COULD, COULD ASSIST WITH THE DESIGN OF SAID BANNER, UM, WHAT, YOU KNOW, IN ORDER FOR US TO, TO START VOTING ON IT.

AND THEN THE SECOND THING WOULD BE, UM, WORKING WITH THAT QUESTIONNAIRE THAT WOULD BE, HAVE TO BE APPROVED THROUGH, UH, THE ATTOR, THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE ON THE WHEREFORES AND THUS AND SOS AND ALL OF THOSE THINGS.

SO IS, THOSE ARE TWO THINGS THAT WE DO NEED TO WORK ON.

SO IS THERE ANY, ANYBODY THAT'S WILLING TO, TO START THAT PROCESS? I CAN WORK ON A QUESTIONNAIRE.

DR.

STANKY SAID SHE'LL WORK ON THE QUESTIONNAIRE.

I MIGHT GO TO YOUR WEBSITE AND STEAL WHATEVER'S ON THE POLICE, YOU KNOW, REPORT.

THERE YOU GO.

I, I THINK IT WOULD BE, AND CAN I GET A DATE ON THE NATIONAL? I DON'T, IT'S THE FIRST TUESDAY OF OCTOBER.

IS IT THE FOURTH? I THINK IT'S THE FOURTH.

DO WE EVEN KNOW IF FIRST TUESDAY IS THE FOURTH? AUGUST IT'S FOURTH.

WE DON'T EVEN, DO WE EVEN KNOW IF TOWN SQUARE IS GOING TO BE COMPLETED IN OCTOBER? YEAH, THEY SAID THIS, UH, SHOULD BE DONE AT THE END OF AUGUST.

I THINK THEY'RE LAYING SOME NEW TURF ON THE THINKING THE GRASS ITEM

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SO, UM, I THINK JUST THE, THE PENDING ITEM RIGHT NOW IS GONNA BE THE BANNER ON THAT.

I MIGHT HAVE A RESOURCE THAT CAN HELP WITH ARTISTIC OKAY.

ADVENTURE THERE.

I'LL, I'LL CHECK AND SEE.

IF YOU'LL, CAN YOU BE, I'LL REACH OUT TO YOU DIRECTLY.

IF YOU CAN BE THE POINT MAN FOR THAT.

THAT'D APPRECIATE IT.

SO MR. HUNSINGER IS GONNA WORK ON GETTING, STARTING TO WORK ON A BANNER CONCEPT.

ALL RIGHT.

ANY OTHER ITEMS THAT WE NEED TO PUT ON A FUTURE MEETING? CAN WE GET AN UPDATE FROM RENEE ON THE, THE HISPANIC OUTREACH? JUST TURN THAT OFF.

WE CAN.

THAT'D BE REALLY COOL TO HEAR WHAT'S, WHERE THEY ARE AND HOW EVERYTHING'S GOING.

I KNOW IT WAS SLOW MOVING AND SO I KNOW HE SAID HE HAD REACHED OUT TO ANOTHER MM-HMM .

UH, POLICE YES.

DEPARTMENT.

AND SO I'D BE REALLY CURIOUS 'CAUSE I'M GOING BACK TO OUR MAIN BUCKETS OF CONCERNS MM-HMM .

THAT WE STARTED WITH.

UH, TWO, TWO, ALMOST TWO YEARS AGO.

AND SO I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE HITTING ALL OUR SQUARES.

THEY'RE GONNA, THEY'RE GONNA BE OUT AT OUR EVENT, UH, THIS SATURDAY MM-HMM .

HERE AT THE COMMUNITY CENTER.

WELL, PERFECT.

SO THEN HE'LL HAVE INFORMATION TO SERVE TO, UM, TO GIVE HE WILL PERFECTLY.

UH, WE'RE COMBINING OUR FORCES WITH THE CITY, DOING A BACK TO SCHOOL BASH, AND WE'RE HAVING A COFFEE WITH THE COP ALL IN ONE AREA AT THE COMMUNITY CENTER.

AND THAT'S THIS SATURDAY.

CAN WE HAVE, UM, MAYBE A WRITTEN POLICY FOR VOTING IN THE FUTURE THAT WE NEVER APPROVED? Y YEAH.

UH, WE ACTUALLY, UH, GOT SOME FEEDBACK FROM COUNCIL THAT THEY'RE LOOKING AT CREATING A, ACROSS THE BOARD, UM, ELECTION PROCESS FOR, UM, COMMITTEES.

ALL THE COMMITTEES.

AND SO WE, WE WERE KIND OF WAITING TO SEE WHAT THAT'S GONNA BE, WHAT KIND OF TIMEFRAME WE'RE LOOKING AT FOR THAT, UM, BEFORE WE WENT FORWARD ON THIS PARTICULAR COMMITTEE.

I APPRECIATE THAT.

UM, SO THAT'S TWO ITEMS ON THE TASK, ON THE FUTURE AGENDA.

UM, CHIEF, I, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE, UM, IF WE COULD ADD THIS TO THE AGENDA, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOME, MAYBE SOME MONTHLY NUMBERS ON THE CORE MM-HMM .

PROGRAM.

AND, UM, ALSO SOME MONTHLY NUMBERS ON JUST OUR, UM, THE MENTAL HEALTH INITIATIVE AS FAR AS WHAT THE NUMBERS OF OFFICER INTERACTION THERE, MAYBE SIX MONTH VIEW.

UM, THAT WAY WE CAN, WE CAN START MEASURING WHAT'S, HOW WE'RE, HOW WE'RE DOING.

AND HOPEFULLY WE'RE SEEING SOME DECLINE IN THIS AREA.

SO ARE THEY PASSING OUT THE DECALS, THAT KIND OF STUFF? LIKE HOW IS THAT WHOLE YEAH, I MEAN, I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW IF PINS WERE MADE, IF ALL THAT, WHERE WE ARE WITH THAT.

GOTCHA.

I CAN GET THAT.

UH, IS THERE ANY PARTICULAR INFORMATION YOU WANT OTHER THAN INTERACTIONS AND WHETHER OR NOT THEY'VE GONE UP OR DOWN, UH, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, PART OF THAT, LOOKING AT THEM GOING UP VERSUS GOING DOWN THAT MAY NOT TELL, YOU KNOW, THE WHOLE STORY.

UH, I THINK WHAT WE MAY SEE MORE, BECAUSE NOW PEOPLE ARE AWARE, WHICH IS A GOOD THING.

I THINK WHAT'S, WHAT'S WHAT'S INTERESTING TO ME ON, WITH THE CORE PROGRAM PARTICULARLY, IS ARE THERE REPEAT MM-HMM .

INTERACTIONS THAT EITHER A MENTAL HEALTH OFFICER IS INVOLVED OR THE, UH, THE CORE PROGRAM IS BEING USED MULTIPLE TIMES MM-HMM .

ON THERE.

I MEAN, DO WE HAVE SOME TYPE OF MATRIX TO SEE THAT? SO THAT, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT'S WHERE I WAS, MY, MY, MY QUESTION A WHILE AGO WAS ADDRESSING MULTIPLE RECIDIVISM.

SO I, I'LL CHECK ON THAT.

I DON'T KNOW IF IT KEEPS DATA THAT WAY.

UM, BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S AN ELEMENT OF CONFIDENTIALITY.

I UNDERSTAND, UH, WITH HIPAA.

UM, I HAVEN'T GOTTEN THAT DEEP INTO THE WEEDS, BUT, UM, I CAN CERTAINLY ASK THE PROGRAM COORDINATOR AND SEE WHAT WE CAN FIND OUT FOR YOU.

UH, DECRIMINALIZING MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES.

WELL, WHILE YOU'RE FINDING THAT OUT MM-HMM .

IS THERE ANY WAY YOU CAN ALSO FIND OUT HOW MANY OF THE, I CALL THEM SAVES, RIGHT? MM-HMM .

BECAUSE I REALLY LIKE THAT THAT VERBIAGE, UM, WERE PREVIOUSLY PEOPLE WHO WERE ARRESTED MM-HMM .

BUT NOW ARE SAVES BECAUSE OF THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE COURT.

DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? IT DOES.

UH, PEOPLE WERE, WERE ABLE TO HELP INSTEAD OF PUT IN JAIL, CORRECT.

UM, YEAH, I'LL SEE WHAT WE CAN FIND ON THAT.

AND, AND AGAIN, THAT MAY BE TIED TO THE SAME ISSUE.

I JUST, I DON'T KNOW, BUT I'LL SEE WHAT I CAN FIND FOR YOU.

I'LL HAVE YOU AN ANSWER.

NO, YOU DON'T HAVE TO GET NUMBERS.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO GET NAMES.

I MEAN, THEY SHOULD BE ABLE TO GIVE YOU NUMBERS.

THEY CAN GIVE US NUMBERS, BUT THE, YOU KNOW, THE QUESTION IS HIP, DO THEY THEY, DO THEY, DO THEY HAVE THEM CATALOGED BY NAMES OR IS IT JUST EVENTS THAT, THAT WE HAVE ACCESS TO? GOTCHA.

THAT I'LL HAVE TO FIND OUT.

SO IS A GRANT, IT'S A GRANT, RIGHT? MM-HMM .

OR THEY'LL HAVE, THEY WANT THAT, THEY WANT THAT, THEY WANT THAT DATA ON.

THAT DOWN AGAINST, UH, UH, CRIMINAL HISTORY AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

I'M SURE THEY, SO, UM, YEAH.

WE'LL, WE'LL, WE WILL DO OUR BEST TO FIND OUT FOR YOU.

I THINK THAT THAT, AND, AND JUST LET ME GO AHEAD AND GIVE YOU A WARNING WITH, UH, WITH RUNNING

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I MAY HAVE TO SAY, HEY, LOOK, I NEED ANOTHER MEETING BEFORE I GET THIS TO YOU.

SO, UH, BUT WE'LL, WE, WE'LL, WE'LL FIND YOU THE INFORMATION.

I DON'T, BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S TAKE ON THE OTHER SIDE.

I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT OVERALL MM-HMM .

THE GENERAL PUBLIC WOULD BE IN.

I THINK IT'S INFORMATION THAT, UH, CONVEYING TO, TO THE BAYTON POPULATION OF WE'RE ACTIVELY WORKING.

IT SHOWS, IT SHOWS THAT IT'S DOING WHAT WE WANT IT TO DO.

WELL, IF I MAY COMMENT ON THAT TOO, IT JUST, A THOUGHT, UM, HAS TO DO WITH, IF WE'RE LOOKING AT CRIMINAL HISTORIES, THEY, WE HAVE VERY SPECIFIC REASONS UNDER THE LAW THAT WE CAN LOOK AT SOMEONE'S CRIMINAL HISTORY IF WE HAVE A SELF ADMISSION THAT, YOU KNOW, YEAH, THE LAST TIME THIS HAPPENED TO ME, I ENDED UP GETTING ARRESTED FOR WHATEVER.

UH, THAT'S ONE THING.

BUT WE CAN'T JUST, EVEN IF WE HAVE THE NAMES, WE CAN'T JUST GO IN AND RUN THEM.

OH, ABSOLUTELY.

BECAUSE WE'RE TRYING TO FIND OUT WHAT'S GOING ON.

OH, ABSOLUTELY.

UM, SO IT WOULD HAVE TO PROBABLY BE MORE OF A SELF ADMISSION THAN IT UNDER THE LAW.

WELL, I, I THINK WE CAN DO A SEARCH OF OUR OWN, UH, RECORDS MANAGEMENT SYSTEM FOR THAT.

IF YOU'RE LAW, IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT NOT A, IT'S NOT A TRUE CRIMINAL HISTORY, BUT WHAT HAS BAYTOWN POLICE DEPARTMENT MAYBE INTERACTED WITH THAT PERSON? YEAH.

CORRECT.

AND IT WON'T NECESSARILY GIVE US THE OUTCOME OF THE ARREST, BUT I DON'T THINK THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR ANYWAY.

NO, WE'RE JUST WHETHER OR NOT THAT PERSON WENT TO JAIL CORRECT.

YEAH, BECAUSE WITH, AND, AND I'M GONNA MENTION THIS IN A MOMENT.

OUR, OUR QUARTERLY REPORT TO COUNSEL IS COMING UP ON SEPTEMBER THE EIGHTH.

AND I WOULD, I WOULD, I THINK IT WOULD BE VERY BENEFICIAL, ESPECIALLY SINCE THAT'S ESSENTIALLY GONNA BE THE ONE YEAR KIND OF MARK OF THE APPROVAL OF THE CORE PROGRAM.

I THINK IT'D BE VERY, VERY BENEFICIAL FOR, UH, COUNCIL TO SEE MAYBE THE LINE OF, OF ACTIVITY AND, AND SOME INTERACTION OF, OF WHAT'S GOING ON.

AND HOPEFULLY THE POSITIVITY OF, OF THE PROGRAM AS A WHOLE.

CHIEF, WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR IS IMPACT.

AS GENERIC AS IT NEEDS TO BE.

BUT BASICALLY WHAT'S THE IMPACT THEN? MM-HMM .

THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO.

MOVE TO, UM, ITEM NUMBER FIVE A, WHICH IS OUR NEXT MEETING.

GOOD POINT.

VERY GOOD POINT.

ANY OTHER ITEMS THAT WE NEED TO PUT ON OUR, UH, UH, FUTURE AGENDA? ALL RIGHT, WELL, EVERYBODY SILENT.

SO LET'S

[5. NEXT MEETING]

CONSIDER SETTING THE DATE, TIME, AND LOCATION FOR THE NEXT SKIPPED.

I SKIPPED SOMETHING, UH, PART.

DISCUSS THE IDEA.

UH, THANK YOU DRANCY.

UH, DISCUSS GOING BACK TO FOUR C, MAN.

MS. DRANCY GOT THE EAGLE EYE TONIGHT.

SHE'S GOOD.

UH, FOUR C, THE SECOND BULLET POINT, DISCUSS IDEAS FOR THE BPAC PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT, UH, TO BE ADVERTISED ON CHANNEL 16 AND SOCIAL MEDIA.

UM, HERE TO, UH, UP TO THIS POINT, IT'S JUST BEEN, UH, BASIC.

UM, THE FACE, FACEBOOK AND SOCIAL MEDIAS AND ALL THAT, TRYING TO PUSH IT OUT TO ALL OF IT.

UM, WE HAD DISCUSSED THE IDEA OF TRYING TO DO MAYBE A ONE MINUTE, UH, OR 59 SECONDS IN ORDER TO COMPLY WITH INSTAGRAM.

UM, GOT WITH THE, UM, THE MEDIA.

MEDIA.

MY WORDS ARE NOT WORKING TONIGHT.

UH, THE MEDIA TEAM, AND THEY SAID THEY WERE WILLING TO HELP US GET THAT SQUARED AWAY.

UM, WE, WE ARE RUNNING INTO, UH, THE SCRIPTING ASPECT OF THIS NEED SOME HELP WITH THE SCRIPTING AND MAKING SURE THAT THE MESSAGE IS CLEAR IN THAT, IN THAT, UH, THAT SHORT TERM.

SO, UM, IS THERE ANYBODY THAT CAN HELP US WITH THAT? I MEAN, WITH SCRIPTING OF WHAT WE WERE GONNA SAY TO PROMOTE BA? YEAH, I CAN DO THAT.

DO THAT FOR MY CHURCH.

SO IF YOU, DR. MORENO, THAT'LL BE, WHO AM I WORKING WITH? I GUESS YOU AND I FOR THE, FOR THE TIME BEING.

IF YOU CAN RUN WITH IT AND THEN YOU AND I CAN CAN, YOU KNOW, HAMMER OUT ALL OF SOME DETAILS AND GO FROM THERE.

I CAN SEND YOU A DRAFT.

ALRIGHTYY.

SO DR. BROWN IS GONNA TAKE CARE OF THAT.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR HEADING THAT UP.

YOU THAT ON THE NEXT AGENDA AS WELL.

THEN.

UM, ACTUALLY THAT'S ALREADY BEEN KIND OF APPROVED.

UM, THAT'S JUST A MATTER OF DOING IT.

'CAUSE WE'VE ALREADY, WE'VE, IF, IF, IF, UNLESS I FORGOT.

I THINK WE APPROVED IT TO GET, SO IT'S JUST A MATTER OF ACTUALLY FOLLOWING THROUGH AND GETTING WITH, WITH THE, THE RIGHT PEOPLE AND THE VIDEO WE APPROVED TO HAVE THE CONVERSATION, THE CONVERSATION'S BEEN HAD.

SO NOW WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT THE OTHER PIECES OF IT.

SO THAT'S ALL I, THAT'S ALL I JUST WANTED, MAKE SURE IT'S JUST, JUST A FOLLOW THROUGH, NOT JUST STOPPING AT THE BALL.

VERY GOOD.

SO, ALL RIGHT, GOOD.

SORRY, I WANNA GO BACK AND REVISIT, UM, YOU INITIALLY WAS THINKING ABOUT PRESENTING TO COUNCIL ON SEPTEMBER THE EIGHTH.

UM, BUT IF HE NEEDS A LITTLE BIT LONGER TO GET THAT REPORT TO YOU, UM, DO YOU WANT PUSH BACK, UM, PRESENTING TO COUNSEL UNTIL OCTOBER? BECAUSE YOUR NEXT MEETING WOULD BE SEPTEMBER 27TH, CORRECT?

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SEPTEMBER 27TH.

AUGUST.

UM, WELL YOU HAVE YOUR MEETING IN AUGUST, BUT IF IT TAKES HIM LONGER TO GET IT BACK.

SO CAN WE DETERMINE THEN IF AT THE AUGUST MEETING ON WHETHER OR NOT WE NEED TO PUSH IT BACK BASED ON WHAT INFORMATION HE GETS? OKAY.

JUST LET YOU YEAH, BUT I DIDN'T KNOW IT WAS AN OPTION.

THAT'S GREAT.

WELL, I THINK THOUGH WE DO HAVE SOME MEMBERS THAT ARE TERMING OUT.

IS THAT RIGHT? AT THE END OF SEPTEMBER, SEPTEMBER 30TH IS IS THE END OF TERM THAT IS.

SO, SO THAT MAY, I'LL DO MY BEST TO GET IT TO YOU BEFORE THEN.

I JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT LIEUTENANT DORIS, WHO, WHO RUNS THE PROGRAM, HE'LL HAVE TO DO THIS.

HE'S ALSO THE, THE, THE, UH, PROJECT MANAGER FOR OUR STRATEGIC PLAN.

UH, HE'S, UH, SHIFT COMMANDER, UH, SENIOR LIEUTENANT ON PATROL DIVISION.

AND, UM, HE ALSO, UH, IS IN CHARGE OF THE, UH, FIELD TRAINING, UH, PROGRAM FOR OUR OFFICERS.

SO HE'S GOT A LOT GOING ON.

SO I JUST, THIS MAY BE SOMETHING THAT'S SIMPLE, THAT HE'S GOT ACCESS TO DATA, UH, THAT HE CAN PUT TOGETHER A, A SLIDE PRESENTATION, A COUPLE OF SLIDES FOR US, AND GIVE US A GRAPHIC PRESENTATION AND SHOW THE IMPACT THAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR.

OR IT MIGHT TAKE MORE DIGGING.

UM, WHATEVER IT IS, I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE FIND AS MUCH OF THE INFORMATION AS WE CAN TO GIVE THE, UH, UH, TO, TO GIVE YOU THE INFORMATION THAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR.

THANK YOU CHIEF.

APPRECIATE THAT.

ALRIGHT, NOW THAT I'VE HIT ALL OF THE BULLET POINTS UNDER THAT ITEM, , MOVING ON TO NUMBER FIVE.

NUMBER FIVE A, AND THAT'S GONNA BE CONSIDERED SETTING THE DATE, TIME, AND LOCATION FOR THE NEXT BAYTOWN POLICE ADVISORY COMMITTEE MEETING ALONG WITH ANY RELATED TASK AND PROCESS.

SO, UM, THIS IS WHERE I STEP IN.

SO I WAS ABLE TO, FOR THE LAST MEETING WHEN WE HAD IT AT LEE COLLEGE, I WAS ABLE TO SOLIDIFY LEE COLLEGE.

SO I'M ASKING OUR COMMITTEE MEMBERS, IF ANYBODY HAS ANY OTHER OPTIONS, YOU KNOW, 'CAUSE ERIC AND I HAVE BEEN TRYING TO FIGURE OUT OTHER OPPORTUNITIES ON WHERE WE CAN HAVE IT WITHIN THE COMMUNITY.

AND SO IF ANYBODY HAS AN, ANY IDEAS ON WHERE WE CAN GO NEXT, UM, THAT WOULD BE SUPER HELPFUL BECAUSE WE, WE NEED TO BE IN THE COMMUNITY.

WE DON'T NEED TO BE BEHIND THIS.

WE WALL.

SO I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH SOME BUSINESS LEADERS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT IF WE CAN FIND A VENUE.

UM, THE GOOD THING ABOUT HAVING THIS AT LEE COLLEGE LAST MONTH WAS WE GOT A KIND OF AN IDEA OF THE IMPACT AND NUMBER OF PEOPLE MM-HMM .

AND IT WAS GREATER THAN WE THOUGHT IT WOULD BE, WHICH IS WONDERFUL, BUT IT JUST MEANS THAT IT KIND OF TOOK OUT SOME OF THE VENUES THAT I WAS THINKING OF.

SO I'M STILL WORKING WITH VARIOUS BUSINESS FOLKS UP AND DOWN GARTH TO SEE IF THERE'S SOMEPLACE, IT COULD BE A VENUE THAT, THAT IS A HALL OR WHATEVER, ANYTHING, AS LONG AS THEY CAN JUST TURN IT OVER TO US FOR A FEW HOURS.

SO I SHOULD HAVE SOMETHING.

IT CAN BE A CHURCH, IT CAN BE A CHURCH, IT CAN BE A COMMUNITY CENTER, IT CAN BE DIFFERENT VENUES, WHATEVER IS AVAILABLE.

YOU KNOW, WE DON'T, WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE GETTING GOOD INPUT.

AND FROM THE LAST, THE LAST MEETING THAT WE HAD, DEFINITELY HOW MANY SPEAKERS, HOW MANY INPUT DO WE HAVE? EIGHT.

BUT WE HAD OUR HIGHEST NUMBER ATTENDEES.

HOW MANY PEOPLE ACTUALLY SPOKE? WAS IT LIKE SEVEN OR EIGHT? IT WAS ABOUT EIGHT.

SE SEVEN OR EIGHT PEOPLE THAT SPOKE.

SO WE DEFINITELY HAD A, UH, WE DEFINITELY RECEIVED SOME GOOD INPUT AND I THINK THAT THAT IS, THAT'S, THAT'S REALLY WHAT WE'RE DRIVING FOR.

AND LIKE DR. MORENO SAID, GETTING BEHIND OUT FROM BEHIND THIS DAIS AND GETTING THE INPUT FROM THE COMMUNITY AND MAKING SURE THAT IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S A PLACE THAT THEY, THEY KNOW THAT THEY CAN SPEAK AND, AND, AND CLEARLY LET US KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON.

SO MY OTHER QUESTION IS FROM A PERSPECTIVE OF DO WE HAVE TO STAY IN THE CITY LIMITS, UM, WHERE A POLICE DEPARTMENT IS? YEAH, I, I WOULD CERTAINLY RECOMMEND CITY LIMITS BECAUSE IT IS SPECIFICALLY FOCUSED ON THE BAYTOWN POLICE DEPARTMENT AND THAT RELATIONSHIP.

HOW ABOUT LIKE AT A CITY PARK BUILDING, LIKE THAT ONE NEXT TO THE SKATEBOARD PARK OVER ON, UH, LANDER JENKINS.

JENKINS, THAT'S THE, YOU KNOW, THEY'VE GOT A NICE BUILDING THERE.

IS IT INSIDE LIKE AIR CONDITIONED? YEAH, I GUESS I HAVEN'T BEEN OVER THERE.

IT'S NOT REALLY BIG THOUGH.

I DON'T HOW MANY PEOPLE, I MEAN, IF YOU PUT US AT ONE END AND THE, YOU KNOW, CHAIRS YEAH.

MAY, MAY WORK.

IT COULD PROBABLY WORK.

IT'S A POSSIBILITY, YOU KNOW, AND IF, IF WE COULD PUT A POSTER OR A SIGN UP AT THE SKATE PARK SAYING, HEY, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE IT'S, UH, EVERMAN IS CLOSED DOWN, ISN'T IT? STILL? PARDON ME.

EVERGREEN.

MM-HMM.

IT'S, IT'S NOT CLOSED, BUT I DON'T THINK THAT THEY'RE BOOKING ANY MORE.

THEY'RE NOT ANY, ANY MORE EVENTS.

THEY WOULDN'T LET US SLIDE IN THERE.

OH, WHAT ABOUT THE COMMUNITY SCENARIO? NO.

OH, YOU DON'T WANT, WANNA GET OUTTA THIS ACREAGE? OH, OKAY.

WE'RE GONNA GO MORE INTO THE CITY.

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I, I DO HAVE A POSSIBILITY.

I MEAN, I'M GONNA TRY TO MAKE IT HAPPEN, BUT, UM, LET'S SET THE DATE AND THEN WITHIN A COUPLE OF DAYS, UH, WE WILL SEND OUT THE ACTUAL LOCATION, UM, AND THEN GO FROM THERE.

SO, SO IS IS RICH, ARE YOU GONNA CHECK, CHECK IT OUT YOUR PEOPLE AND YOU'LL WORK WITH ERIC AND LET US KNOW.

I GOT, I'VE GOT A COUPLE THINGS I'M TRYING TO GET NAILED DOWN, SO I SHOULD KNOW WHETHER BY THE END OF THIS WEEK.

SO THEN YOU'LL GET TO ERIC AND THEN ERIC FROM THERE, YOU'LL FIGURE IT OUT.

UM, PLEASE, WHAT DID YOU SAY? WHAT'S OUR, WHAT IS AUGUST? AUGUST 23RD IS THE FOURTH.

AUGUST 23RD IS DO NEXT MEETING.

SO AUGUST MEETING 23RD IS THE NEXT MEETING DATE.

IS THAT CONFLICT WITH MORE THAN, MORE THAN THE QUORUM.

SOUNDS GOOD.

SO AUGUST 28TH, 2022 WILL BE THE DATE.

2020 THIRD.

23RD, I'M SORRY, I'M SORRY.

AUGUST 23RD, 2022 AT 20 6:00 PM WILL BE THE NEXT DATE AND THE LOCATION TO BE DETERMINED, MR. HUNSINGER AND MYSELF, WE WILL, UH, WORK VERY DILIGENTLY TO NAIL THAT DOWN.