Jul 14, 2022 CITY COUNCIL MEETING

ITEM WE HAVE IS ITEM ONE A, CONSIDER APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES OF THE BAYTOWN CITY COUNCIL'S WORK SESSION AND REGULAR MEETING HELD ON JUNE 9TH, 2022.

FIRST

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I'D ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR APPROVAL.

MOTION TO APPROVED.

I GET A SECOND, SECOND.

MOTION TO SECOND.

ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, OR ABSTENTIONS? IF NOT ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF ITEM ONE A IS PRESENTED, PLEASE SAY AYE.

UM, AS YOU CAN SEE, WE HAVE MANY FOLKS HERE, UM, FROM THE BAYTOWN HAWKS, UH, A FEW YEARS AGO, UH, WHEN I FIRST BECAME MAYOR, I THINK YOU, WHEN I FIRST BECAME MAYOR, UM, I DISCUSSED THAT, YOU KNOW, I WANT TO TRY TO RECOGNIZE CITIZENS THAT DO REMARKABLE THINGS, UH, IN OUR CITY.

ALL THOSE OPPOSED OUR NEXT ITEM.

[a. Recognition of Mr. Daniel "BeBe" Garcia for lifetime accomplishment regarding the most successful fast pitch team in the state. ]

AND UNFORTUNATELY, COVID AND OTHER THINGS, IT KIND OF DISALLOWED A LOT OF THOSE TYPE OF RECOGNITIONS.

UM, BUT IN PARTICULARLY, UH, MR. DANIEL BEBE GARCIA, UH, AT HIS AGE, HE WENT AND WROTE A BOOK REALLY ABOUT HIS LIFELONG, UH, EXPERIENCES OF COACHING THE BAYTOWN HAWKS.

AND THE BAYTOWN HAWKS IS A, UH, A LATIN AMERICAN, UH, FAST FIT SOFTBALL TEAM THAT ORIGINATED HERE IN BAYTOWN.

A LOT OF IT FAMILY, A LOT OF PEOPLE HERE ARE VERY FAMILIAR TO ME AND MANY OF US IN THE COMMUNITY.

AND SO, UM, WITH THAT, IT, IT'S VERY, UM, WARM MY HEART TO GO AND RECOGNIZE MR. GARCIA, UH, COMMONLY KNOWN AS BEBE, UH, TO GO AND, AND TO WRITE A BOOK AND, AND, AND TALK ABOUT THE EXPERIENCES AS A COACH OF A, UH, WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP, UH, FAST PITCH SOFTBALL TEAM.

AND SO I APPLAUD YOU FOR, FOR, FOR MAKING THAT EFFORT.

YOU KNOW, A LOT OF TIMES, UM, WHEN WE GO AND WE LOOK AT OUR FAMILY HISTORY AND JUST THINGS THAT WE EXPERIENCE IN LIFE, WE DON'T EVER REALLY CHRONICLE THAT OR DOCUMENT THAT.

AND SO WE ALWAYS ASK A LOT OF OUR ELDERS AND, AND, AND, UH, FAMILY MEMBERS TO, TO DOCUMENT THAT.

AND SO MR. GARCIA WENT AND DOCUMENTED HIS EXPERIENCE AS A BASEBALL COACH, AND, UH, I'M ASSUMING HE HAS MANY FANS HERE, UH, THAT, THAT CERTAINLY SUPPORT HIM IN, IN THE BOOK THAT HE WROTE.

I KNOW MY FATHER READ IT.

AND, UH, THERE'S A LOT OF FACES THAT I THINK IN THE BOOK.

AND SO, UH, WITH THAT, I WANTED TO TAKE AN OPPORTUNITY TO REC, REALLY RECOGNIZE MR. GARCIA AS AN OUTSTANDING BATIAN.

UH, CERTAINLY, UM, HIS SUCCESSES ON THE FIELD WITH ALL THE PLAYERS THAT ARE HERE AND THE FAMILY MEMBERS, AND SOME OF THAT CERTAINLY, UH, WE SHOULD ALL RECOGNIZE, I THINK OUT THERE, THEY HAD SOME OF THEIR WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP TROPHIES.

UM, AND SO WITH THAT, UH, I WILL OPEN UP TO A RECOGNITION THAT I'LL READ IN JUST A SEC.

BUT, UM, IF I CAN, CAN WE PLEASE GIVE A A HAND TO MR. VBB GARCIA BEFORE I HEAD DOWN, THERE IS TWO CITIZENS THAT, THAT DID SIGN UP TO SPEAK.

SO FIRST WE HAVE FORMER COUNCILMAN MARIO DELGADO.

SO IF YOU PLEASE COME TO THE PODIUM.

AND SO, UH, THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY TO, UH, ADDRESS THE, UH, BAYTOWN CITY COUNCIL.

I AM A

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LIFETIME CITIZEN OF THE CITY OF BAYTOWN AND A FORMER ELECTED MEMBER OF THE DISTINGUISHED COUNCIL, HAVING THE HONORABLE DISTINCTION OF REPRESENTING DISTRICT ONE.

MY NAME AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, IS MARIO DELGADO, BETTER KNOWN IN SOFTBALL CIRCLES IS CRASH DELGADO.

AND I'VE COME HERE TONIGHT TO BRING HONOR AND PRAISE TO AN OUTSTANDING SON OF THE CITY OF BAYTOWN NAMED DANIEL GARCIA, BETTER KNOWN IN SOFTBALL CIRCLES OF BEBE GARCIA.

DAN, CAN YOU WAVE SO WE CAN RECOGNIZE YOU? THANK YOU, SIR.

HARD TO MISS HIM IN ANY CROWD.

HE STANDS OUT.

BAYTOWN DISTRICT ONE IS MADE UP OF SEVERAL NEIGHBORHOODS, BUT ONE IN PARTICULAR HAS DEEP ROOTS IN THE ANNUAL ANIMALS OF BASEBALL.

THE AMELIA EARHART NEIGHBORHOOD, BETTER KNOWN AMONG THE CURRENT CITIZENS OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD, IS OBT.

IT WAS A HOME OF THE BAYTOWN OILERS BASEBALL TEAM AND HAD A CLASSIC WOODEN STADIUM BEHIND THE HISTORIC POST OFFICE ON MARKET STREET.

DISTRICT ONE IS ALSO THE HOME GROUNDS OF A DISTINGUISHED BASEBALL MANAGER NAMED REMIJO GARCIA, WHO IS A FATHER OF BIBI GARCIA.

REMI HAD THE AMBITION TO CREATE A MEXICAN AMERICAN BASEBALL TEAM, COMPOSED MOSTLY OF NEIGHBORHOOD KIDS, ONE OF WHICH WITH MY FATHER, WHO WAS NAMED JOE BULL DELGADO RE LAID THE GROUNDWORK FOR THE BIRTH OF THE NEXT GENERATION OF BASEBALL PLAYERS, THE BAYTOWN HAWKS LED BY HIS SON BEBE GARCIA, BUT IT WASN'T THE ARENA OF BASEBALL AT HAND, BUT THE ARENA OF SOFTBALL, LATIN AMERICAN SOFTBALL THAT HAD ESTABLISHED A AND, AND WE ESTABLISHED A RENOWNED SOFTBALL TOURNAMENT IN THE HOUSTON, HOSTED BY THE RUSS ATHLETIC CLUB CALLED THE STATE, UH, LATIN AMERICAN TOURNAMENT.

BEBE, LIKE HIS FATHER, ORGANIZED THE OBT NEIGHBORHOOD KIDS INTO FIVE TIME STATE CHAMPIONS OVER A PERIOD OF 10 YEARS.

MANY OF US WHO ARE PART OF THAT SUCCESS ARE HERE TONIGHT, AND I WANT THEM TO WAVE ALL YOU FORMER BASEBALL SOFTBALL PLAYERS.

AND WE HAVE COME HERE TO APPLAUD HIS RECOGNITION BY THE CITY OF BAYTOWN.

NOT ONLY DO WE WANT TO JOIN THE APPLAUD, BUT DAN, WE WANT TO THANK YOU BECAUSE I THINK WE RODE THE COATTAILS OF YOUR SUCCESS IN OUR CAREERS.

THE PASSION THAT YOU HAD FOR SOFTBALL CARRIED ON THROUGH OUR LIVES ALSO.

SO WE THANK YOU.

WE HAVE LUIS RODRIGUEZ.

I I'M GONNA SAY A FEW WORDS HERE.

I'M GONNA READ THIS AND THEN, AND THEN THE FLOOR IS YOURS.

SO I WANNA READ THIS RECOGNITION.

A LOT OF IT, UH, IT GIVES A LITTLE, GIVES A LITTLE BIT OF THE INFORMATION OF MR. DANIEL BIBE GARCIA.

SO FROM THE CITY OF BAYTOWN RECOGNITION, DANIEL BEBE GARCIA, WHEREAS A 1957 COACH, DANIEL BEBE GARCIA STARTED THE BAYTOWN HAWKS ATHLETIC CLUB TO PROVIDE THE KIDS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD WITH SOMETHING TO DO.

WHEREAS OVER THE PAST 65 YEARS, BEBE HAS LED THE TEAM TO GREAT SUCCESS, INCLUDING 12 LATIN AMERICAN STATE CHAMPIONSHIPS, TWO ISC WORLD TOURNAMENT APPEARANCES.

WERE THE FIRST, WE'RE THE FIRST TEAM TO HOST THE ISC REGIONAL TOURNAMENT, AND WERE THE FIRST HISPANIC TEAM TO COMPETE IN THE HOUSTON MAYOR CITY FAST PITCH SOFTBALL LEAGUE.

IN 1994, BB WAS INDU INDUCTED INTO THE AMATEUR SOFTBALL ASSOCIATION HALL OF FAME, AND IN 1996 WAS, UH, INDUCTED INTO THE LATIN AMERICAN HALL OF FAME.

SO NOW, THEREFORE, IRAN CAP'S MAYOR OF THE CITY OF BAYTOWN, TEXAS, DO HEREBY RECOGNIZE DANIEL BB GARCIA AND ENCOURAGE YOU TO JOIN ME IN HONORING HIM FOR EVERYTHING HE'S DONE FOR OUR CITY IN BAYTOWN AND CERTAINLY FOR FAST PITCH SOFTBALL.

MR. GARCIA, WE THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING YOU'VE DONE.

THANK YOU, MAYOR, THIS BOOK AND, UH, IT'S AUTOGRAPHED RIGHT THERE FOR YOU.

IT'S AUTOGRAPHED.

, AND, UH, THANK YOU FOR ALL YOU DO FOR THE CITY AND FOR THE BAYTOWN HAWKS.

YOU'VE BEEN THERE WITH US, AND, UH, IT'S A JOY TO HAVE YOU WITH US.

AND, UH, THE CITY COUNCIL AND YOU GUYS, MAN, HAVE DONE A WONDERFUL JOB FOR THE CITY.

EVERYWHERE YOU GO, EAST, WEST, NORTH, HEY, THE, THE, THE TOWN IS JUST GROWING LEAPS AND BONDS AND, UH, YOU GUYS ARE, ARE HITTING IT UP.

SO KEEP IT UP AND KEEP THERE GREATLY.

OKAY? OKAY.

THANK YOU MS. GARCIA.

LET'S HEAR IT FOR, OKAY.

I STILL SAY THAT.

RECOGNITION ON BEHALF OF ALL THE FANS AND PLAYERS THAT HAVE PARTICIPATED WITH US, AND IT'S JUST AMAZING FOR ME AT MY AGE, 86 AND, UH, STILL HERE AND ENJOYING YOU, GOOD PEOPLE, AND, UH, I'M JUST OVERWHELMED.

OH, YOU HAVE MORE? NO, WELL, I, I WAS JUST GOING TO YES, ABSOLUTELY.

THE STATE.

I'M SO GLAD TO SEE ALL MY GOOD PEOPLE HERE.

I RECEIVED THIS AWARD

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AND, UH, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALL YOU GUYS DO.

WHAT I'M REALLY PROUD OF, GUYS, WE PLAYED BALL, BUT YOU GUYS WENT ON TO BECOME PROFESSIONAL PEOPLE, ENGINEERS, ELECTRICAL ENGINEERS, LAWYERS, ATTORNEYS, AND UH, CPAS.

AND THAT'S WHAT'S WHAT I WAS ABOUT.

I WANTED MY PEOPLE TO GET UP THERE AND WE WERE FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO DO THINGS AND GET TO THE HEIGHT THAT WE'RE AT AND ENJOYING LIFE BETTER BECAUSE OF THEIR PARTICIPATION IN, NOT ONLY IN SOFTBALL, BUT IN EDUCATION.

AND, UH, I'M JUST SO GLAD TO BEEN A PART OF THEIR LIFE.

AND, UH, I OWE A LOT TO MY, MY FAMILY, MY SONS WHO TOOK OVER AND, UH, DID A WONDERFUL JOB, PUT US ON THE MAP AGAIN AFTER MY TENURE.

THEY WENT ON TO, TO DO BETTER THINGS AND HIGHER THINGS AND MORE SUCCESS THAN I DID AND BEEN, I'M SO PROUD OF, OF ALL MY FAMILY, MY DAUGHTERS, MY DAUGHTER-IN-LAW, AND, UH, ESPECIALLY A YOUNG MAN THAT PLAYED BALL FOR ME, JUNIOR LOPEZ THAT SUGGESTED THAT WE WRITE THE HISTORY OF, OF, OF THE BAYTOWN HAWKS.

SO HE'D DO A LOT OF CREDIT AND, UH, COULDN'T HAVE DONE IT WITHOUT HIM.

AND IT'S IN THE BOOK, GANG READ IT.

IT'S ABOUT BAYTOWN.

WHAT A WONDERFUL PLACE IT IS TO LIVE HERE.

AND, UH, HAVE A WONDERFUL CITY COUNCIL AND MAYOR, AND THANK YOU FOR ALL OF Y'ALL DO.

AND, UH, WE HAVE OUR WONDERFUL ATTORNEY, UH, JERRY ACOSTA.

AND, UH, IS DAVID HERE? DAVID ACOSTA IS HERE.

HE IS A CPA MARIO DELGADO, UH, MARIO DELGADO, ELECTRICAL ENGINEER, NASA, AND, UH, JUST THE LOUIS HOE AND RODRIGUEZ AND ALL THE WONDERFUL THEIR LADIES.

AND, UH, JUST SO MANY, I WON'T TAKE UP TOO MUCH MORE Y'ALL'S TIME.

HEY, DO DALE, OUR SCOREKEEPER AND, UH, ALL MY FAMILY KAREN AND, AND, AND JAMIE ACOSTA ATTORNEY, HIS WIFE, SHEILA ATTORNEY.

OH MY GOODNESS.

WE WERE LOADED WITH ATTORNEYS .

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

YOU DID.

ALL RIGHTY.

I, I REALLY, YOU KNOW, THIS WAS ACTUALLY GONNA TAKE PLACE PROBABLY A FEW MONTHS AGO, BUT, UM, IT'S ACTUALLY REALLY GOOD TIMING THIS WEEKEND.

UH, ONCE THIS RAIN CLEARS, UH, THE, THE TOURNAMENT IS IN BAYTOWN, UH, IT'S CALLED THE, YOU KNOW, THE STATE LATIN AMERICAN TOURNAMENT OR, OR WHATEVER THEY CALL IT NOW.

AND IT'S IN BAYTOWN, IT'S HERE AT OUR OWN SPORTS COMPLEX.

UH, WE WERE ABLE TO HAVE, UH, MAKE SOME ADJUSTMENTS AND, UH, WE ARE HOSTING TEAMS FROM SAN ANTONIO AND, UH, THE RIO GRANDE VALLEY, DALLAS, UH, AUSTIN, YOU KNOW, CERTAINLY THE HOUSTON AREA.

SO, UM, CERTAINLY LOOKING FOR, UH, SOME GOOD FAST PITCH SOFTBALL.

IF YOU WANT TO, UH, TO LOOK AT THAT, GO OUT TO THE BAYTOWN, UH, SPORTS COMPLEX, UM, I THINK FRIDAY THROUGH SUNDAY.

THE ITEM BEFORE YOU IS, UH, A RECONSTRUCTION OF A HOMELESS SHELTER, AN EXISTING HOMELESS SHELTER THAT IS LOCATED HERE IN, UH, OLD BAYTOWN, OR ALSO KNOWN AS THE HISTORIC WEST END.

SO WITH THAT, WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM, UH, TWO B, I'M ASSUMING, EXCUSE ME,

[a. Conduct a public hearing for a Special Use Permit (SUP) for the reconstruction and expansion of a non-conforming use and homeless shelter located at 3404 and 3406 Wisconsin Street, on approximately 0.25 acres of land, zoned Mixed Residential at Low to Medium Densities (SF2).]

THREE A.

WE'RE GONNA CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING.

SO AGAIN, THE PUBLIC HEARINGS TODAY ARE BEING HELD FOR THE PUBLIC FOR THE PURPOSE OF GIVING ALL INTERESTED PERSONS THE RIGHT TO EXPRESS THEIR VIEWS REGARDING THE SUBJECT OF THE PUBLIC HEARINGS.

EVERYONE DESIRED TO BE A PART OF TODAY'S HEARING SHOULD HAVE EITHER SIGNED IN THE PRO, SIGNED IN THE APPROPRIATE LIST, UH, IN THE FOYER, OR EMAILED THE CITY CLERK PRIOR TO THE POSTED TIME OF THIS MEETING.

EACH PARTICIPANT SHALL GIVE HIS OR NAME AND ADDRESS IN ORDER TO PROVIDE A PROPER RECORD OF THESE HEARINGS.

THE RULES ALLOW EACH PERSON THREE MINUTES TO PRESENT INFORMATION.

HOWEVER, I ENCOURAGE EVERYONE TO BE AS BRIEF AND TO THE POINT AS POSSIBLE.

IF YOU ARE A GROUP OF PERSONS WISHING TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL ON THE SAME SUBJECT, PLEASE SUB, UH, SELECT A SPOKESPERSON TO PRESENT THE INFORMATION.

AND IF ANYONE HAS ANY QUESTIONS, PLEASE DIRECT THEM TO ME.

SO I NOW CALL, UM, I NOW, UH, IT IS NOW SIX FORTY EIGHT AND I NOW CALL THE ORDER OF THIS PUBLIC HEARING CONCERNING THE PROPOSED SPECIAL USE PERMIT AT 34 0 4 AND 34 0 6 WEST WISCONSIN STREET.

AND NOW I WOULD ASK STAFF TO SUMMARIZE THE SUBJECT MATTER OF THIS PUBLIC HEARING.

GOOD EVENING COUNSEL.

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UH, THE PROPERTY IS APPROXIMATELY 0.25 ACRES.

IT IS CURRENTLY DEVELOPED WITH, UH, THE, THE IMAGES THAT YOU SEE BEFORE YOU.

ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE, WE HAVE AN ADMINISTRATIVE BUILDING, UM, WHICH SERVICES THE HOMELESS SHELTER.

ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE IS THE MEN'S DORM, UM, WHICH IS OF COURSE THE TRANSIENT LIVING THAT SUPPORTS THE HOMELESS SHELTER.

THE SITE PLAN BEFORE YOU, UH, IS WHAT THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO RECONSTRUCT.

SO THEY WANT TO PLACE THE MEN'S DORM IN THE PLACE OF THE ADMINISTRATOR.

THEY WANT TO BASICALLY DEMO, DEMOLISH THE ENTIRE SITE, COMBINE THE TWO LOTS, AND THEN REBUILD THE MEN'S DORM AND THE ADMINISTRATION BUILDING.

BUT THEY WANT TO SWAP THE LOCATIONS OF THE TWO STRUCTURES.

UH, ALSO WITH THIS PROPOSED NEW CONSTRUCTION, THEY WANT TO BUILD A COMMONS BUILDING, WHICH WILL SUPPORT THE LAUNDRY AND A, A COMMON KITCHEN FACILITY, UH, FOR THE DEVELOPMENT.

AS YOU KNOW, THERE IS A LARGER, UH, FACILITY THAT IS LOCATED ON THE MINNESOTA SIDE OF THE STREET.

AND THAT'S, UM, WHAT WE SEE HERE.

SO THIS IS WHERE THE FAMILY SERVICE SERVICE AND THE FAMILIES ARE HELD THERE.

AND THEN THE INDIVIDUAL MEN'S WOMEN'S DORM AND THE ADMINISTRATION BUILDING ARE HELD OFF OF THE WISCONSIN STREET.

THIS IS ANOTHER LAYOUT, GIVE YOU A PICTURE OF THE INTERIORS STAFF FEELS THAT WITH THE PROPOSED CONSTRUCTION OF THIS HOMELESS SHELTER, IT DOES IMPROVE THE AREA.

THE STRUCTURES THAT ARE ON THE SITE ARE, ARE STRUCTURES FROM 1930, SO THEY ARE AGING AND BECOMING MORE, HARDER AND HARDER TO MAINTAIN.

UM, THE NEW CONSTRUCTION IS GOING, IS BEING PROPOSED TO BE OF RESIDENTIAL CHARACTER AND TO ENSURE THAT STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL WITH TWO CONDITIONS.

ONE BEING THAT IT MEETS THE COMPATIBILITY STANDARDS FOR RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT.

AND, AND THEN THE OTHER ONE BEING THAT IT IS CONFORMANCE WITH THE SITE PLAN THAT YOU SEE BEFORE YOU, AND THAT CONCLUDES STAFF'S.

SO THIS BEING A PUBLIC HEARING, I HAVE THREE INDIVIDUALS THAT HAVE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK.

FIRST WE HAVE BILL EVER.

IF YOU WOULD COME TO THE PODIUM, PLEASE STATE YOUR ADDRESS, PLEASE FOR THE RECORD.

UH, GOOD EVENING.

UH, MY NAME IS BILL ECKERT.

I'M THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR AT BAY AREA HOMELESS SERVICES.

AND, UH, MY OFFICE ADDRESS RIGHT NOW IS 10 11 POLY STREET, HERE IN BAYTOWN.

OKAY, READY? OKAY, COUNSEL, THANK YOU FOR HAVING US.

I WANNA THANK YOU FOR, UH, CONSIDERING THE PETITION THAT YOU HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU.

BAY AREA HOMELESS SERVICES WAS FOUNDED IN 1982, UH, AS BAYTOWN SHELTERING ARMS BY A BAYTOWN POLICE DEPARTMENT, UH, CHAPLAIN.

ANOTHER IN AN EFFORT TO MAKE THESE BUILDINGS LAST AND SERVE THE COMMUNITY'S NEEDS.

HE DID THAT IN ORDER TO SERVE THE LOW INCOME HOMELESS FOLKS IN THE AREA.

AND, UH, IN CONTRAST TO MANY OTHER SHELTERS, WE ARE A SOBER LIVING, EMPLOYMENT ORIENTED, UH, FACILITY.

AND WE HAVE A STAFF THAT OVER OVERSEES OUR FACILITY 24 7 365.

WE PURCHASED ONE BUILDING IN 1982 AND THE OTHER IN 1985.

BOTH OF THESE PROPERTIES WERE DESIGNED SIMPLY AS SINGLE FAMILY HOMES AND WERE ALREADY MORE THAN 50 YEARS OLD WHEN WE PURCHASED THEM.

IN THE INTERVENING 40 YEARS, WE'VE INVESTED IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD BY BUILDING A WOMEN'S SHELTER ON THE 34 0 6 PROPERTY, DEMOLISHING A DILAPIDATED GARAGE APARTMENT ON THE 34 0 4 PROPERTY AND BUILDING THE, UH, INTACT HOMELESS FAMILY CENTER ON THE MINNESOTA SIDE OF OUR CAMPUS.

WE'VE ALSO CONTINUED TO USE THE 34 0 4 PROPERTY AS AN OFFICE, OR 3 4 0 4 AS OUR, AS OUR MEN'S SHELTER AND THE 34 0 6 PROPERTY AS OUR ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICE.

AND THROUGHOUT THESE 40 YEARS, WE'VE SERVED MORE THAN 11,000 HOMELESS INDIVIDUALS, UH, WITH OUR SHELTER.

WHEN WE STARTED OUT, WE WERE ONLY AN OVERNIGHT STAY SHELTER, BUT WE'VE EXPANDED OUR, OUR SERVICES AND, UH, NOW AND UPGRADED OUR SERVICES.

AND NOW OUR RESIDENTS STAY FOR APPROXIMATELY 30 DAYS IN THE MEN'S SHELTER.

IN WOMEN'S SHELTER.

UH, THEY STAY FOR 30 NIGHTS AS THEY SEEK EMPLOYMENT AND, UH, GAIN EMPLOYMENT WITH OUR STAFF'S ASSISTANCE.

FOR THE PAST FIVE YEARS, OUR ALL VOLUNTEER BOARD OF DIRECTORS HAS BEEN DILIGENTLY PLANNING TO UPDATE THE CAMPUS AND THE WISCONSIN STREET FACADES.

DURING THESE YEARS, WE'VE ADDED ONE EXPENSIVE BANDAID AFTER

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AS WE DID THIS PLANNING, THE TIME HAS COME TO UNDERSTAND THAT THESE BUILDINGS ARE NOW WELL PAST THEIR FUNCTIONING USE AND SPENDING MORE MONEY ON MORE BANDAIDS IS FISCALLY IRRESPONSIBLE FOR US.

I FIRMLY BELIEVE THAT THE PLAN BEING PRESENTED TO YOU THIS EVENING BRINGS VALUE TO THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY, VALUE TO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, AND ALLOWS OUR AGENCY TO PROVIDE THE BEST LEVEL OF SERVICES TO OUR RESIDENTS AS THEY LIVE, LEARN, AND FIND EMPLOYMENT IN OUR CITY.

SO I ASK FOR YOUR APPROVAL OF THIS PLAN.

ALRIGHT, NEXT WE HAVE PAUL BONNET.

GO AHEAD.

THANK YOU MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

MY NAME'S PAUL BONNET.

I'M WITH PGAL ARCHITECTS, UH, ADDRESS IS 9 2 3 WOODLAND IN HOUSTON.

UH, I'VE BEEN ASSISTING THE BAY AREA HOMELESS SHELTERS OR HOMELESS SERVICES WITH THIS PROJECT, UH, SINCE TOWARD THE END OF LAST YEAR.

UM, AND CHRIS, ARE THERE SOME OTHER SLIDES HERE? IS THERE A RENDERING? OKAY.

UM, WELL, WE ESSENTIALLY HAVE BEEN HELPING THEM WITH THE ARCHITECTURAL SERVICES AND, UH, ARE GOING TO CONTINUE TO ASSIST THEM TO DEVELOP THIS AND AGAIN, MEET THE, THE, THE RESIDENTIAL, UM, THE RESIDENTIAL LOOK AND KEEP THE RESIDENTIAL AESTHETIC OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

SO I THINK BILL, UH, EXPLAINED WHAT, WHAT THE, THE SERVICES ARE THERE, PROVIDE THAT THEY PROVIDE AND, UM, YOU KNOW, WE WANT TO HELP AND, AND HELP THE, THE COMMUNITY AS WELL.

AND WE ALSO HAVE PETE LESTER, TIME TO SPEAK.

THANK YOU FOR HAVING US.

I'M PETE LESTER AND I LIVE AT 1407 KILGORE ROAD.

I'M AM ONE OF THE DIRECTORS ON THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS FOR BAY AREA HOMELESS SERVICES.

AND THIS PLAN THAT WE HAVE IS NOT SOMETHING THAT WE JUST THREW TOGETHER.

IT'S SOMETHING WE'VE WORKED ON FOR A LONG TIME AND IT IS NOT A WANT, IT IS A NEED.

THIS IS SOMETHING WE NEED TO DO FOR OUR RESIDENTS.

UM, WE CANNOT MAINTAIN THESE BUILDINGS ANYMORE, AS BILL HAS SAID.

AND AS PAULA HAS SAID, WE ARE VERY MUCH COMMITTED TO THE COMMUNITY FOR WHICH WE ARE NOW.

WE INVESTED IN 2016 AND OR, AND BUILT THE FAMILY CENTER IF YOU HAVEN'T BEEN THERE, IT'S A LOVELY BUILDING AND SERVICES, OUR INTACT FAMILIES, THE STRUCTURES WE WANNA BUILD NOW WE WANNA CONFORM TO THE COMMUNITY FROM WHICH WE ARE LIVING WELL.

WE ARE LIVING IN THERE AS PAUL HAS DESIGNED SOME WONDERFUL BUILDINGS THAT WILL BLEND WITH THE HOMES ON THAT STRAIT OF WISCONSIN.

NOT SO MUCH LIKE THE ONE ON THAT FACES THE OTHER DIRECTION FROM THE FAMILY CENTER.

OH, I'M SORRY THAT YOU CAN'T HEAR ME.

UM, BUT THIS HAS BEEN IN PLACE FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS AND WE'VE GONE THROUGH A PLANNING FOR TWO YEARS AND PRESENTED IT TO OUR BOARD TWO YEARS AGO.

AND THEY ARE IN FULL SUPPORT OF WHAT WE'RE DOING AND WE REALLY APPRECIATE THAT YOU'RE CONSIDERING THIS OPTION FOR US.

CONSIDER AN ORDINANCE AUTHORIZED AND A REQUEST FOR A SPECIAL USE PERMIT FOR THE RECONSTRUCTION AND EXPANSION OF A NON-CONFORMING USE LOCATED AT 34 0 4 34 0 6 WISCONSIN STREET ON APPROXIMATELY 0.25 ACRES OF LAND ZONE MIXED RESIDENTIAL AT LOW TO MEDIUM DENSITIES SF TWO.

OKAY, SO THERE BEING NO ONE ELSE DESIRING TO SPEAK, I NOW CLOSE THIS PUBLIC HEARING CONCERNING THE PROPOSED SPECIAL USE PERMIT AT 34 0 4 AND 34 0 6 WISCONSIN STREET.

MOVE ON TO ITEM THREE B.

[b. Consider an ordinance authorizing a request for a Special Use Permit (SUP) for the reconstruction and expansion of a non-conforming use, located at 3404 and 3406 Wisconsin Street, on approximately 0.25 acres of land, zoned Mixed Residential at Low to Medium Densities (SF2).]

UH, MR. TE, DO YOU HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS? THE ONLY THING ADDITIONAL IS THAT THIS ITEM WAS ALSO REVIEWED BY OUR PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.

THEY ALSO RECOMMENDED APPROVAL.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU SIR.

SO, UH, WITH THAT, UM, I GUESS I'D ENTERTAIN A MOTION, UH, FOR ITEM THREE B, MOTION TO APPROVE.

SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION.

MULTIPLE SECONDS.

I DO HAVE A COMMENT.

UM, I, I JUST WANNA, UM, SAY THAT WE INVITED, UM, MR. ECKERT OUT TO TALK TO THE WEST BAYTOWN CIVIC ASSOCIATION AS IT DEFINITELY, UM, AS WE MENTIONED, UM, THEY ARE WITHIN THE SCOPE OF THAT NEIGHBORHOOD.

AND SO A BILL CAME LAST NIGHT TO THE CIVIC ASSOCIATION MEETING, PRESENTED THE PLANS, AND, UH, THE NEIGHBORHOOD WAS VERY SUPPORTIVE.

AND, UM, WE ALSO INVITE THEM TO BE A CONTINUED PARTNER OF THE WEST BAYTOWN CIVIC ASSOCIATION AS THEY ARE OUR NEIGHBORS.

SO, UM, THEY'VE EXPRESSED, UM, UH, THEIR, I GUESS THEY WERE HAPPY WITH THE, THE CHANGES THAT ARE GOING TO BE MADE TO BE ABLE TO BLEND IN WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

SO I JUST WANTED TO THANK MR. ECKERT FOR COMING BY, UM, AND SPEAKING TO THE ASSOCIATION.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE HERE.

UM, THE FACILITIES THERE, UM, IT'S REALLY, REALLY GOOD.

ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS REGARDING, I GUESS ITEM THREE BI NOT, UM, ONE SUGGESTION I'LL MAKE, IF YOU HAVEN'T HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO TOUR,

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I, I'VE HAD A GREAT TOUR WITH, WITH MS. LESTER AND OTHERS AND BILL, UM, THEY CERTAINLY, UM, ARE ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE WITHIN THEIR CURRENT MEANS, BUT CERTAINLY A NEED, UH, MANY TIMES THERE'S, THEY'RE INDIVIDUALS THAT, AND FAMILIES THAT, THAT HAVE THIS NEED AND THEY HAVE DONE A REMARKABLE JOB WITH THE RESOURCES THAT THEY HAVE.

UH, BUT IT'S ALSO OBVIOUS THAT THEY DO NEED TO, TO GO AND, AND UPDATE.

UM, THE HOUSE IS BUILT 1930, UM, I THINK WHEN THEY BUILT THE FAMILY ANNEX, WHICH IS A GREAT FACILITY, UM, UH, IT CERTAINLY IS GOING TO GO AND HELP AND COMPLIMENT THAT.

AND SO THEY CAN CONTINUE TO SERVE, UH, AN ASPECT OF OUR COMMUNITY THAT HAS THAT NEED.

SO WITH THAT, UM, ARE THOSE IN FAVOR OF ITEM THREE B AS PRESENTED, PLEASE SAY AYE.

UH, LOOKS LIKE WE HAVE ANOTHER PUBLIC HEARING.

ALL THOSE OPPOSED, ITEM THREE BS CARRIES, UH, GOOD LUCK.

THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU DO.

ALRIGHT, NEXT WE HAVE ANOTHER,

[a. Conduct a public hearing concerning a request to amend the official zoning map to rezone approximately 5.26 acres of land located at 715 Alamo Street from a General Commercial (GC) district to a Mixed Residential at Low to a Medium Densities (SF2) zoning district.]

ITEM FOUR A CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING, UH, CONCERNING A REQUEST TO AMEND THE OFFICIAL ZONING MAP TO REZONE APPROXIMATELY 5.26 ACRES OF LAND LOCATED AT 7 1 5 ALAMO STREET FROM A GENERAL COMMERCIAL DISTRICT TO A MIXED RESIDENTIAL AT LOW TO MEDIUM DENSITY, UH, SF TWO ZONING DISTRICT.

SO NOW IT'S NOW SEVEN O'CLOCK AND I, I'LL CALL THIS THE ORDER OF THIS PUBLIC HEARING CONCERNING A REQUEST TO AMEND THE, THE, UH, 5.26 ACRES THAT I JUST MENTIONED AT THE ADDRESS FROM GC TO SF TWO I.

NOW, I'D LIKE STAFF TO SUMMARIZE THE SUBJECT MATTER OF THIS PUBLIC HEARING FOR THIS ITEM.

THANK YOU MAYOR AND COUNCIL MARTIN SCRIBNER FOR PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.

UM, AS STATED, UH, THIS IS FIVE AND A QUARTER ACRES JUST EAST OF GARTH ROAD AND NORTH OF HUNT, KIND OF BACK BEHIND WHERE KOHL'S AND MICHAEL'S ARE.

UM, THE REQUEST IS TO REZONE FROM GENERAL COMMERCIAL TO SF TWO TO BUILD ABOUT 25 SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED HOMES.

UH, THE PLANNED LOT SIZES ARE 5,400 SQUARE FEET, UH, CONSIDERING THE LOCATION AND THE SURROUNDING EXISTING USES, UH, WHICH INCLUDES SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, MULTI-FAMILY, AND THERE IS ALSO JUST TO THE EAST OF 57 ACRE PARCEL, UH, THAT WAS REZONED TO SF TWO IN JANUARY OF THIS YEAR.

UM, STAFF DOES SUPPORT THE REZONED REQUEST.

THIS ITEM WENT TO PLANNING ZONING COMMISSION IN JUNE.

THERE WERE NO OBJECTIONS AND PNZ ALSO VOTED TO RECOMMEND THAT COUNSEL APPROVE THE UH, REQUESTS.

UH, WITH THAT I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

TO ITEM FOUR B, WHICH WILL BE CONSIDERED AN ORDINANCE, UM, CHANGING THE OFFICIAL ZONING MAP TO THE PROPERTY I JUST DESCRIBED.

DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING THIS, UH, UH, REGARDING STAFF? SO THERE BEING NO ONE ELSE'S HONOR TO SPEAK AND I'LL CLOSE THIS PUBLIC HEARING CONCERNING A REQUEST TO AMEND THE REZONING APPROXIMATELY 5.26 ACRES OF LAND AT 7 1 5 ALAMO STREET FROM GC ZONING DISTRICT SF TWO.

WE'LL MOVE ON

[b. Consider an ordinance concerning a request to amend the official zoning map to rezone approximately 5.26 acres of land located at 715 Alamo Street from a General Commercial (GC) district to a Mixed Residential at Low to Medium Densities (SF2) zoning district.]

SO I'D ENTERTAIN A MOTION OF ITEM FOUR B, MOVE TO APPROVE ITEM FOUR B.

SECOND, WE MOTION TO SECOND.

ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? ITEM FOUR B IS PRESENTED, PLEASE SAY AYE.

AYE, THOSE OPPOSED.

ITEM CARRIES.

[a. Conduct the first public hearing regarding the proposed annexation of approximately 62.02 acres generally located east of North Main Street between East Wallisville Road and FM 1942.]

MOVE ON TO ITEM FIVE A.

WE WILL HAVE ANOTHER PUBLIC HEARING, SO WE WILL, UM, CONDUCT A, A HEARING, UH, REGARDING, UH, THE PROPOSED ANNEXATION APPROXIMATELY 62.02 ACRES, GENERALLY LOCATED EAST OF NORTH MAIN STREET BETWEEN EAST VILLE ROAD AND FM, UH, 1942, IT'S NOW SEVEN OH TWO AND I NOW CALL TO ORDER THIS PUBLIC HEARING CONCERNING THE PROPOSED ANNEXATION OF APPROXIMATELY 62.02 ACRES.

UH, AT THE ADDRESS I DESCRIBED, I'D LIKE STAFF TO ONCE AGAIN SUMMARIZE THE SUBJECT MATTER OF THIS ITEM.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

UH, SO AGAIN, 62 ACRES, UH, BEING REQUESTED TO BE ANNEXED BY CASTLE ROCK COMMUNITIES.

UH, THIS WOULD ADD MORE SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED HOMES TO THE BAY CREEK SUBDIVISION.

UH, THAT IS JUST TO THE SOUTH.

THAT'S 71 ACRES, UH, THAT WAS ANNEXED AND ZONED TO SF TWO LAST YEAR, JUST ABOUT A YEAR AGO.

UH, THEY ARE CURRENTLY UNDERGOING THE REZONE PROCESS FOR THIS PROPERTY AS WELL, UM, WHICH WILL BE COMPLETED ABOUT THE TIME THE ANNEXATION IS FINALIZED.

UM, AS THE MAYOR MENTIONED, THIS IS THE FIRST PUBLIC HEARING OF THE ANNEXATION PROCESS, SO YOU WILL SEE SEVERAL MORE.

YOU'LL SEE THE SEVERAL MORE TIMES BEFORE IT'S FINALIZED.

UM, WITH THAT, HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

OKAY, SO I DON'T HAVE ANY ANYONE'S THAT'S SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM ALSO.

SO, UH, NOW CLOSE THIS PUBLIC HEARING CONCERNING THE PROPOSED ANNEXATION OF OF THE 62.02 ACRES OF LAND.

SO WE'LL

[b. Consider an ordinance authorizing a Service Agreement with Castlerock Communities, LLC, concerning approximately 62.02 acres of land located generally east of North Main Street between East Wallisville Road and FM 1942.]

MOVE ON TO ITEM, UH, FIVE B.

CONSIDER AN ORDINANCE AUTHORIZED IN A SERVICE AGREEMENT WITH CASTLE ROCK COMMUNITIES LLC CONCERNING APPROXIMATELY 62.02 ACRES AT THE PROPERTY I DESCRIBED, UH, I'D ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR FIVE B.

CAN YOU DESCRIBE THE ITEM FIRST SINCE IT'S AN AGREEMENT? UM, SURE.

CAN YOU MAKE A DESCRIPTION ON THIS PART, UH, PARTICULAR AGREEMENT ITSELF? WHAT IT, THE GENERAL PARTICULARS OF THE AGREEMENT? UH, THIS IS KIND OF OUR STANDARD, UM, PUBLIC SERVICE AGREEMENT THAT, UH, IT WOULD MIRROR WHAT IS ALREADY AGREED TO IN THE, THE, THE SOUTHERN PART OF THAT, THAT SAME DEVELOPMENT.

MOVE TO APPROVE ITEM FIVE B.

SECOND WE HAVE MOTION TO SECOND.

ANY ADDITIONAL ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, UH, OF ITEM FIVE B AS PRESENTED,

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PLEASE SAY AYE.

TO ITEM SIX A AND SURPRISE PUBLIC HEARING.

ALL THOSE POST AND MOVE ON

[a. Conduct a public hearing concerning the proposed text amendments to the Unified Land Development Code regarding the Mixed Use Zoning District.]

IT'S NOW SEVEN OH FOUR AND I'LL CALL TO ORDER THIS PUBLIC HEARING CONCERNING THE PROPOSED TEXT AMENDMENTS TO THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE REGARDING, UH, MIXED USE ZONING DISTRICT.

UM, ANYONE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? NO, SIR.

SO NO ONE THAT, UM, IS THERE ANYTHING THE STAFF WOULD LIKE TO ADD TO THIS ITEM? UH, JUST THAT WE ARE ATTEMPTING TO USE THE MIXED USE, UH, ZONING DISTRICT TO BALANCE IT OUT.

CURRENTLY IT IS OPERATING AS A FULL COMMERCIAL ZONING DISTRICT.

WE'RE HOPING TO INTRODUCE SOME RESIDENTIAL COMPONENTS TO IT TO GIVE IT SOME BALANCE AND SO THAT IT CAN MEET UP TO ITS MIXED USE ZONING NAME.

SINGLE FAMILY, MULTIFAMILY, DUPLEX.

QUESTION? YES, SIR.

SO CAN YOU JUST BE A LITTLE MORE SPECIFIC WHEN YOU SAY RESIDENTIAL COMPONENTS? ABSOLUTELY.

SO WE'RE LOOKING AT DUPLEXES, SINGLE FAMILY ATTACHED, UM, UNITS, AND THOSE ARE THE PRODUCTS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT AND A MIXED USE BUILDING.

SO CURRENTLY THE MIXED USE ZONING DISTRICT DOESN'T ACCOMMODATE ANY OF THOSE.

SO THOSE ARE WHAT WE'RE HOPING TO INTRODUCE INTO THE ZONING DISTRICT.

AGAIN, BECAUSE WE'VE HAD DEVELOPMENT INTERESTS, PARTICULARLY IN THE DUPLEX MODEL BECAUSE WHERE MU IS LOCATED, THEY'RE USUALLY VERY SMALL LOTS, BUT PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO PUT SINGLE FAMILY ON 'EM BECAUSE THEY'RE ON STREETS LIKE PRUITT, WEST MAINE, ET CETERA.

THEY'RE LOOKING MORE SO FOR A DENSER PRODUCT AND THIS IS OUR ABILITY TO ACCOMMODATE THEM.

OKAY, THANKS INDEED.

MR. MAYOR? YES.

COUNSEL, IF I MAY, I DID ONE POINT OUT TO YOU THAT THERE SHOULD BE A RED LINE COPY OF THE ORDINANCE IN FRONT OF YOU.

UH, THERE ARE REALLY NO SUBSTANTIVE CHANGES TO THE COPY THAT WAS ENTERED INTO THE SYSTEM, BUT WE DID WORDSMITH IT A BIT.

WE WANTED IT TO BE MORE CONSISTENT WITH THE LANGUAGE THAT WAS USED IN THE CODE AS WELL AS, UH, SUBSECTIONS THAT WERE DRAFTED BY DIFFERENT PEOPLE.

WE WANTED TO MAKE THE, THE DOCUMENT INTERNALLY CONSISTENT AS WELL.

I, UH, DOES EVERYBODY HAVE THAT? I HAVE THAT'S FOR FIVE B? YEAH.

SIX BI HAVE SIX B.

B IT IS SIX B.

OKAY, SORRY, I HAVE A QUESTION.

I THOUGHT WE WERE ON.

OKAY, I'M SORRY.

YEAH, SIX P OKAY.

QUESTION, JUST TO CLARIFY, SO THE, THE TERM MIXED USE BUILDING IS ALREADY IN THERE, YOU'RE JUST TRYING TO BETTER DEFINE WHAT A MIXED USE BUILDING IS? YES.

SO WE HAVE A, INSIDE OF OUR ORDINANCE, WE HAVE A MIXED USE BUILDING DEFINITION, BUT IT WASN'T PARTICULARLY ASSESSED FOR THE MU ZONING DISTRICT.

SO WE'RE MOVING IT OVER TO THE ULDC AND THE ULDC DEFINITIONS TO INCLUDE THAT.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

SO WHAT THAT MAYOR? YES, SIR.

SO, SO THAT BEGS THE QUESTION, WHAT IS A MIXED USE BUILDING? THE MIXED USE BUILDING IS WHAT WILL ALLOW YOU TO HAVE ESSENTIALLY A COMMERCIAL, UH, USE AND A RESIDENTIAL USE INSIDE OF THE ONE BUILDING, WHETHER THAT BE VERTICAL OR HORIZONTAL USES, UH, IT'S UP TO THE DEVELOPER'S CHOICE.

PERFECT.

I GUESS JUST TO FOLLOW UP ON THAT, SO IN THE OLDER PART OF TOWN WE DO HAVE, UM, I DON'T, TREND MAY BE A STRONG WORD, BUT WE DO HAVE SOME INSTANCES WHERE FOLKS ARE CONVERTING COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES INTO SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES.

SO ON THE MIXED USE BUILDING, THE COMMERCIAL USE, I MEAN THERE IS A MINIMUM SQUARE FOOTAGE OR IT HAS TO BE A B IT HAS TO HAVE A BONAFIDE COMMERCIAL USE, CORRECT? YES.

SO FOR A MIXED USE BUILDING, YOU WILL BE GETTING A COMMERCIAL OCCUPANCY FOR THAT PARTICULAR STRUCTURE.

YEAH, THANKS INDEED.

OKAY, SO THIS IS, UH, ITEM SIX A, THE PUBLIC HEARING.

THAT'S THE STAFF SUMMARIZATION, CORRECT? YES.

ON TO ITEM SIX B, CONSIDERED AN ORDINANCE FOR THE PROPOSED TEXT AMENDMENTS TO THE ULDC REGARDING THE MIXED USE ZONING DISTRICT.

IS THERE ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS? SO THERE BEING NO ONE ELSE'S HONOR TO SPEAK ON, I'LL CLOSE THIS PUBLIC HEARING CONCERNING THE PROPOSED TEXT AMENDMENTS OF THE ULDC

[b. Consider an ordinance for the proposed text amendments to the Unified Land Development Code regarding the Mixed Use Zoning District.]

SO I'D ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR APPROVAL UNLESS THERE'S ANY ADDITIONAL STAFF INPUT.

MOTION TO APPROVE SECOND.

MOTION SECOND.

ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIX B AS PRESENTED, PLEASE SAY AYE.

A AYE.

OPPOSED? YOU

[a. Receive the Fiscal Year 2022-23 Budget of the Baytown Crime Control and Prevention District.]

HAVE ITEM SEVEN A, UM, IS GONNA BE RECEIVED THE FISCAL, UH, 2223 BUDGET, BAYTOWN CRIME CONTROL AND PREVENTION DISTRICT.

UH, YES SIR.

DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS REGARDING THIS? UH, YES.

THANK YOU MR. RAMER.

THE ATTACHED BUDGET WAS APPROVED BY THE BOARD OF THE DISTRICT ON TUESDAY OF THIS WEEK.

UM, I WOULD DRAW ATTENTION TO ONE CHANGE IN, UH, THIS BUDGET, AND THAT IS THE MOVEMENT OF STAFFING FROM HERE TO THE GENERAL FUND WITH A CONSEQUENT TRANSFER OF EQUIPMENT PURCHASES FROM THE GENERAL FUND TO THE DISTRICT.

IT IS A NEUTRAL EFFECT ON BOTH FUNDS, BUT, UH, LOCATES

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THE, UH, THE EQUIPMENT CLEARLY WITHIN THE DISTRICT'S, UH, BUDGET AND REMOVES IT FROM THE GENERAL FUND.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE, SIR.

SO, UM, WE WOULD CONSIDER, UM, THE, THE PROPOSED BUDGET RECEIVED UNLESS THERE'S ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS.

JUST A COMMENT, MAYOR.

UM, THIS IS, I'M, I'M PLEASED TO TO HEAR THAT WE MOVE PERSONNEL OUT OF THIS BUDGET AND PUT IT IN THE GENERAL FUND AND WE'VE PUT THE EQUIPMENT PURCHASES SQUARELY IN THIS FUND.

UH, THAT'S, THAT'S BEEN A LONG TIME COMING AND SO I REALLY APPRECIATE STAFF'S EFFORTS TO TRY TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN AND THEN GETTING IT TO HAPPEN THIS YEAR.

SO THAT'S, THAT'S A GOOD THING.

IS GONNA BE RECEIVED AND DISCUSSED THE PRESENTATION BY, BY SCOOTERS REGARDING BRINGING IN THEIR SCOOTER BUSINESS TO THE CITY OF BAYTOWN.

WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM, UH, EIGHT A

[a. Receive and discuss a presentation by Bird Scooters regarding bringing their scooter business to the City of Baytown. ]

UH, WE'LL HAVE MR. BRETT, ELLA AND MIKE BUTLER.

UH, WE DO HAVE ONE, UH, CITIZEN THAT DID SIGN UP TO SPEAK.

DO WE HAVE THEM ON LINE? YES, SIR.

ALRIGHT, WE HAVE MR. ISAAC, UM, IF YOU CAN, MR. ISAAC, PLEASE, UH, OBVIOUSLY STATE YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS.

DAVID ISAAC, 28 12 LANDMARK DRIVE, BAYTOWN, TEXAS 7 7 5 2 1.

MR. MAYOR, COUNSEL, UH, I'M EXCITED TO SEE THIS, UH, PRESENTATION FROM, FROM THE SCOOTER COMPANY.

UH, AS YOU KNOW THAT MY, WHERE MY OFFICES ARE LOCATED IN AUSTIN, I TAKE THESE SCOOTERS OFTEN AND I WOULD LIKE FOR, I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE THE COUNCIL TO USE, UH, PROACTIVE LEADERSHIP AS OPPOSED TO REACTIVE LEADERSHIP WHEN IT COMES TO THE, UH, SAFETY, UH, OF, UH, OUR CITIZENS THAT WILL LIKE TO USE THESE IN THE FUTURE.

SO IT'S GOOD TO GET EXCITED ABOUT THESE THINGS, BUT IT'S ALSO, UH, TO BECOME PART OF THE PROCESS AND INFORMING, UH, THE PUBLIC ON BEING SAFE AND, UH, USING THE RIGHT TRAINING AND SAFETY GEAR, UH, TO RIDE THESE SCOOTERS.

UH, OTHER THAN THAT, I'M IN FAVOR OF THIS IN TERM, UH, ESPECIALLY AS IT RELATES TO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IN OUR TOWN.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

ALRIGHT, SO WE'LL RECEIVE AND DISCUSS THIS PRESENTATION.

UM, I GUESS, BRETT, ARE YOU FIRST OR, YEAH, I'D JUST LIKE TO INTRODUCE MIKE BUTLER, UH, FROM BYRD.

AND HE AND HIS STAFF HAVE, UH, LOOKED OVER OUR COMMUNITY ON SEVERAL OCCASIONS ALREADY.

UH, IN FACT, MIKE'S SISTER-IN-LAW USED TO LIVE IN OUR COMMUNITY FOR MANY YEARS.

UNFORTUNATELY, SHE'S RELOCATED DOWN TO A WATERFRONT COMMUNITY, UM, NEAR AN ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE BRIDGE.

UH, BUT WE WON'T HOLD THAT AGAINST HIM.

YOU'VE SEEN THESE SCOOTERS, YOU'VE PROBABLY USED THEM IN OTHER COMMUNITIES THAT YOU'VE GONE TO FOR EVENTS.

UM, BYRD IS OBVIOUSLY A NATIONAL COMPANY, ACTUALLY, I THINK IF MEMORY SERVES ME CORRECTLY, THEY'RE INTERNATIONAL AND, UM, THEY'VE ANALYZED OUR MARKET AND THEY BELIEVE THAT, UM, UH, THEIR TRANSPORTATION VEHICLE WILL WORK HERE.

SO, MR. BUTLER, I WILL ALLOW HIM TO MAKE THE PRESENTATION TO YOU GUYS.

HE DID APOLOGIZE IN ADVANCE THAT HE WAS NOT ABLE TO COME HERE, UH, FOR THIS MEETING.

THERE WAS ANOTHER EMPLOYEE THAT WAS SLATED TO DO THAT, WHO, UH, AT THE LAST MINUTE WAS NOT ABLE TO DO IT.

SO MIKE IS STEPPING IN AND MORE THAN WILLING TO MAKE THE PRESENTATION, MR. BUTLER.

THANK YOU FOR THAT INTRO.

BRETT.

CAN, CAN EVERYBODY HEAR ME BEFORE I START? SURE.

SEE THEM IN METROPOLITAN AREAS.

OKAY, EXCELLENT.

UH, WELL, MAYOR, COUNSEL, UH, I'M HAPPY TO BE HERE AND SPEAK ON BEHALF OF, UH, BIRD.

SO LET ME ACTUALLY SHARE MY SCREEN.

I'LL GO THROUGH A QUICK PRESENTATION.

IT SHOULD LAST ABOUT FIVE OR SEVEN MINUTES.

UM, AND THEN I'LL OPEN IT UP FOR SOME QUESTIONS.

I'M SURE THERE WILL BE MANY.

OH, THERE WE ARE.

OKAY, SO IF, UM, I THINK A LOT OF FOLKS, I'VE PROBABLY SEEN THIS CONCEPT DONE BEFORE.

I THINK EVEN BEFORE WE GET INTO WHAT WE DO, IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO TALK ABOUT WHY WE DO IT.

WHY DOES OUR BUSINESS EXIST? WHY HAVE WE STARTED THIS COMPANY? WHY DO WE DO WHAT WE DO? UM, AND REALLY OUR GOAL IS TO HELP IMPROVE OUR COMMUNITIES AND OF COURSE, IMPROVE THE LIVES OF THE PEOPLE WITHIN THOSE COMMUNITIES.

UM, THAT IS OUR NORTH STAR AND HOW WE ACHIEVE THAT IS BY BEING WHAT THE INDUSTRY CALLS A MICRO MOBILITY COMPANY.

IT'S A VERY FANCY TERM, UM, BUT REALLY IT JUST MEANS THAT WE'RE A TRANSPORTATION COMPANY, HAS A FOCUS ON THE SHARED ELECTRIC VEHICLES.

UM, OUR STORY IS ONE THAT WE STARTED THIS IN 2017, SO WE STARTED AS THE FIRST COMPANY IN THE WORLD EVER TO DO THIS CONCEPT.

AT THE TIME IT WAS A PRETTY WACKY, PRETTY OUTTA LEFT FIELD, UM, IDEA, BUT WE SAW A TON OF SUCCESS IN THE EARLY DAYS, UH, TO THE POINT WHERE WE'VE EXPANDED FROM BEING LIVE IN JUST ONE CITY IN CALIFORNIA TO NOW BEING LIVE IN ALMOST 400 CITIES, UH, LANDFILLS, FIVE DIFFERENT CONTINENTS, DOZENS OF COUNTRIES.

UM, AND THAT NUMBER RIGHT THERE AT THE BOTTOM, A HUNDRED MILLION RIDES A HUNDRED MILLION TIMES, SOMEONE HAS TRUSTED OUR SERVICE.

A RESIDENT HAS TRUSTED OUR SERVICE TO GET THEM FROM A TO B.

UH, AND SO WE ARE WIDELY SEEN AS THE MOST TRUSTED PROVIDER OF THIS IN THE ENTIRE COUNTRY AND LIKELY THE ENTIRE WORLD.

UM, AND THESE REALLY ARE CITIES BIG AND SMALL.

I THINK THE GENERAL PERCEPTION BY THIS, AND I'M HAPPY THAT RESIDENT HAD BROUGHT THIS UP ABOUT SEEING THIS IN AUSTIN, UM, IS THAT YOU DO SEE THEM IN, IN LARGE CITIES.

YOU DO

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UM, BUT THAT'S NOT JUST WHERE WE GO TO, THAT JUST HAPPENS TO BE WHERE A LOT OF PEOPLE LIVE OR A LOT OF PEOPLE VISIT.

AND SO THAT'S WHAT THEY THINK OF.

BUT THE REALITY IS THAT WE ACTUALLY WORK WITH A TON OF CITIES, UH, MANY OF 'EM ACTUALLY MUCH SMALLER THAN BAYTOWN.

SO THESE ARE CITIES LIKE TEXARKANA OR LITTLE ELM OR MACAL, OKLAHOMA, OR CAY IN TEXAS, UH, KIND UP IN PANHANDLE, UM, AND BEAUMONT, WHICH IS OF COURSE JUST, UH, JUST EASIER HERE.

UM, SO I BRING THIS UP AGAIN TO KIND OF HELP, UM, CHANGE THE PERCEPTION THAT THIS TYPE OF SERVICE SOLELY WORKS IN BIG METROPOLITAN AREAS AND SIMPLY JUST NOT THE CASE.

UH, IF YOU HAVEN'T SEEN THE SERVICE DONE BEFORE, IT'S ALL DONE THROUGH, THROUGH YOUR PHONE OR THROUGH AN APPLICATION.

UM, YOU WOULD WALK UP TO THAT VEHICLE IF IT WAS YOUR FIRST RIDE, YOU'D SIGN AN AGREEMENT, VERIFY YOU WERE ABOVE PAGE, PUT YOUR CREDIT CARD INFORMATION IN.

YOU HAVE TO COMPLETE A SERIES OF VIDEOS AND TUTORIALS BEFORE YOUR FIRST RIDE, AND THEN YOU TAKE IT OFF AND USE IT THE SAME WAY YOU WOULD A PERSONAL BICYCLE.

TODAY, PRICING IS VERY SIMPLE.

TO UNLOCK THAT VEHICLE AND UNLOCK THAT MECHANISM, IT'S GONNA COST YOU $1, AND THERE'S A PER MINUTE FEE AS WELL.

SO THE LONGER THAN YOU TAKE US, THE LONGER OR THE LARGER THE FAIR IS GOING TO BE.

UM, BUT OF COURSE WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THIS IS DEMOCRATIZED AND NOT JUST FOR A CERTAIN SEGMENT OF THE POPULATION.

SO THERE ARE DISCOUNT PROGRAMS AVAILABLE IF YOU ARE, UH, LET'S SAY THE GOVERNMENT ASSISTANCE PROGRAM, IF YOU'RE A VETERAN, IF YOU'RE A SENIOR CITIZEN, IF YOU'RE A HEALTHCARE WORKER.

SO WE, WE'VE IMPLEMENTED A LOT OF THESE THINGS TO MAKE SURE IT'S FOR AS MANY PEOPLE AS POSSIBLE.

NOW, WHEN WE ENTER INTO A MARKET, WE DON'T JUST SHOW UP ONE DAY AND SAY, HEY, GOOD LUCK.

HOPE YOU GUYS CAN FIGURE THIS OUT.

UM, THERE'S A LOT OF PROGRAMMING AND A LOT OF INPUT THAT'S DONE BY THE CITY BEFOREHAND.

SO WE WORK WITH THE CITY TO DESIGNATE CERTAIN AREAS, CERTAIN ZONES WHERE BOTH BURN AND ALSO THE CITY HAS DEEMED AS MAYBE LOCATIONS THAT WE SHOULD ACTUALLY THROTTLE DOWN THE SPEED.

SO WHEN A VEHICLE ENTER A CERTAIN ZONE, IT CAN ACTUALLY SLOW DOWN, MAYBE BY BICENTENNIAL PARK, UH, OR IT CAN ACTUALLY BE A GO RIDE ZONE ENTIRELY.

SO IF THERE'S CERTAIN PRIVATE PROPERTIES, CERTAIN NEIGHBORHOODS, CERTAIN LOCATIONS THAT WE HAVE JUST DEEMED TO SAY, HEY, WE DON'T WANT ANY VEHICLE ACTIVITY THERE, WE WILL PUT DOWN A BASICALLY INVISIBLE FENCE.

AND IF YOU TRY TO ENTER INTO IT, THE VEHICLE WILL SLOW DOWN, YOU'LL BE NOTIFIED AND YOU CAN'T RIDE THERE.

SO A LOT OF REALLY, UM, SOPHISTICATED TECHNOLOGY THAT WE'VE IMPLEMENTED IN, IN INCREDIBLY SOPHISTICATED PLACES, UM, LIKE ROME, ITALY OR BERLIN OR NEW YORK CITY OR LOS ANGELES, YOU KNOW, MAJOR, MAJOR MARKETS WHERE THE REGULATIONS TO OPERATE A CITY LIKE THAT ARE, ARE LITERALLY THE SIZE OF DICTIONARY.

AND SO WE'VE HAD TO IMPLEMENT THAT THERE AND REALLY REPLICATE IT HERE.

I THINK THE ECONOMIC IMPACT IS ALSO SOMETHING THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT.

UH, THIS NUMBER HERE IS ESSENTIALLY WHAT AN ESTIMATE OF WHAT WE'VE SEEN THAT RIDERS ARE SPENDING AT LOCAL BUSINESSES, MOSTLY IN THE FOOD, MOSTLY IN THE BEVERAGE SPACE.

BUT THIS SPEAKS TO THE FACT THAT, UM, WHEN, WHEN CITIES INTRODUCE A TYPE OF SERVICE, UM, THERE TENDS TO BE AN IDEA THAT THIS IS ACTUALLY DRIVING SOME LEVEL OF CONSUMER SPENDING BECAUSE IT SEEMS TO SAY THAT IF YOU GIVE PEOPLE AN OPTION TO TAKE THEIR, YOU KNOW, TAKE THIS TYPE OF VEHICLE, THEY TEND TO SPEND MORE MONEY ON LOCAL BUSINESSES.

SO THIS HAS BEEN REALLY IMPORTANT, UM, AND ACTUALLY SOMETHING THAT WAS DONE BY EMORY UNIVERSITY, A THIRD PARTY.

UH, THIS NUMBER HERE IS ALSO A NUMBER THAT WE HAVE ACTUALLY PAID OUT TO LOCAL BUSINESSES OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS.

UH, THESE ARE OUR, OUR LOCAL ENTREPRENEURS, LOCAL, UM, BUSINESSES THAT BENEFIT FROM THIS PROGRAM BY WAY OF RUNNING THE OPERATIONS, UH, FOR US.

SO I'LL GET INTO THIS IN A FUTURE SLIDE, BUT THESE ARE THE KIND OF, UM, CONTRIBUTIONS THAT WE'RE GIVING TO, TO BUSINESSES IN TEXAS.

AND THIS IS OUR LOCALIZED, UM, TEXAS NETWORK, AT LEAST WHEN IT COMES TO OPERATIONS.

SO I, I, I BRING THIS UP JUST BECAUSE I, I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO HAVE SOME TYPE OF LOCAL CONNECTION, SOME TYPE OF LOCAL UNDERSTANDING.

SO YOU CAN SEE HERE THAT, YOU KNOW, EVEN OUR NORTH AMERICA DIRECTOR OF OPERATION ACTUALLY LIVES IN DALLAS TODAY.

UM, AND THERE'S A LOT OF FOLKS HERE THAT, THAT WE HAVE EMPLOYED, UM, THAT RUN A HUGE SEGMENT OF OUR OPERATIONS.

UM, KIND OF THAT RUNNING SOME OF THE SOLUTIONS IN THE BACKGROUND, NOT NECESSARILY THE ON THE GROUND OPERATIONS IN, IN BAYTOWN, UM, THAT WILL BE DONE BY INDIVIDUALS OR BUSINESSES THAT LIVE THERE.

AND I'LL GET INTO THIS RIGHT NOW.

UM, THIS IS A HUGE PIECE OF THIS BECAUSE WHILE WE ARE THE BUSINESS THAT IS ESSENTIALLY RUNNING THE, UM, YOU KNOW, WE OWN THE EQUIPMENT, WE OWN THE RELATIONSHIP WITH THE CITY, WE OWN THE INSURANCE POLICIES, YOU KNOW, THE FOLKS THAT ARE ACTUALLY ON THE GROUND RUNNING THIS ARE FOLKS FROM BAYTOWN.

AND I THINK THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT BECAUSE OUR KNOWLEDGE GAP ONLY GOES UP TO A CERTAIN WAY IN ORDER TO FILL THAT GAP.

WE DO SO BY LOCAL INDIVIDUALS THAT KNOW THE TOWN, THAT KNOW THE COMMUNITY, THAT KNOW THE PEOPLE, AND CAN ESSENTIALLY RUN THIS BUSINESS ALMOST BETTER THAN WE CAN, UM, BECAUSE THEY HAVE THAT FLAVOR OF LOCALIZATION.

SO THIS I THINK IS REALLY IMPORTANT AND I THINK IT'S BIG TO HAVE SOME TYPE OF LOCAL TOUCH.

THAT'S WHY WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO DEVELOP SO MANY OF THESE PARTNERSHIPS WITH CITIES, MANY OF 'EM JUST LIKE DAYTON.

UM, THIS, THIS DASHBOARD, THIS IS, UH, ESSENTIALLY KIND OF THE LAST PIECE

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HERE.

THIS IS A BIG, UM, FACTOR TO THIS.

I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO SHOW THE LEVEL OF DATA THAT WE'RE GIVING TO THE CITY, ESSENTIALLY FOR FREE.

UM, IT'S OTHERWISE UNOBTAINABLE INFORMATION ABOUT WHERE YOUR RESIDENTS, WHERE YOUR VISITORS ARE GOING, HOW THEY'RE TRAVELING.

AND SO IT'S ESSENTIALLY A FREE PROGRAM.

WE'RE GIVING YOU ACCESS TO DATA ON ONE OF THESE POPULAR LOCATIONS.

WHAT ROUTES ARE THEY DOING? AND THAT CAN INFLUENCE EITHER FUTURE PROGRAMS OR OF COURSE THEY CAN INFLUENCE THE BLENDING DEPARTMENT ON IT.

THEY ONE AND TWO, YOU KNOW, DO SOME THINGS LIKE STRIKING OUT PIPELINES, WIDENING SIDEWALKS, ENHANCING PEDESTRIAN CONNECTIVITY.

THESE ARE ALL THINGS THAT WE CAN DO HERE.

SO WHAT YOU DO, THIS DATA IS UP TO YOU.

YOU CAN LEAVE IN YOUR BACK POCKET FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS, UH, OR YOU CAN TAKE ACTION ON IN THIS INDUSTRY STARTS BEING COLLECTED.

AND OUR PROPOSALS REALLY SIMPLE.

THERE'S NO COST TO THIS.

SO I KNOW TYPICALLY LOCAL GOVERNMENT, UH, THAT FIRST PEOPLE HEAR THAT WHEN THEY CONSIDER THAT IT'S FREE, UM, YOU WOULD GET ACCESS TO A DEDICATED ACCOUNT MANAGER.

SO THIS IS SOMEONE THAT IS AN EMPLOYEE OF OURS WHO THERE TO ENSURE THE SUCCESS OF THE PROGRAM.

THAT DATA DASHBOARD THAT I MENTIONED.

AND THEN THOSE BOTTOM THREE BULLET POINTS, I THINK THOSE ARE REALLY MORE OF A VARIABLE.

UM, THE NUMBER OF VEHICLES IS REALLY DEPENDENT ON, ON LOCAL RIDER DEMAND AND WE WON'T KNOW THAT UNTIL WE GET GOING, UM, THE LAUNCHES AS WELL AS REALLY JUST DEPENDENT ON WHEN AN APPROVAL DOCUMENT COULD BE EXECUTED.

AND OUR RECOMMENDATION IS, IS TO, UH, ESSENTIALLY MOVE FORWARD WITH WHAT WOULD BE A 12 MONTH, UM, PILOT AND DONE SO VIA AN OPERATING AGREEMENT.

SO I WILL, UM, I'LL PAUSE THERE.

I KNOW THAT WAS, THAT WAS FAIRLY LONG WINDED.

A LOT OF CONTENT THERE.

UM, BUT I'LL PAUSE AS I'M SURE THERE'S PLENTY OF QUESTIONS.

ALRIGHT, I'LL OPEN UP TO QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FOR COUNSEL REGARDING THE PRESENTATION.

AND UH, BRETT, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD? UH, NO SIR.

MAYOR.

ANY QUESTIONS? I DO, YES MA'AM.

I CAN'T GET MY MIC ON.

OH, UH, LLOYD, CAN WE GET D FOUR LINE, UH, D FOUR MIKE? OH, USE HIS THANKS.

SO, UM, I'M PRETTY FAMILIAR WITH THIS, UM, TRANSPORTATION METHOD.

I USE IT A LOT WHENEVER I, UH, DO GO OUT TOWN AND, UM, I'M GLAD THAT YOU HAVE A, A PROCESS IN PLACE FOR PICKUP AND CLEANUP.

'CAUSE I DID NOTICE A COUPLE YEARS AGO WHEN THIS FIRST KIND OF STARTED TO EMERGE IN, UH, MAJOR TEXAS CITIES THAT I USED TO CALL IT THE, UM, SCOOTER FERRY THAT WOULD COME ALONG IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT AND LIKE PICK UP ALL THE SCOOTERS THAT EVERYONE LEFT ON THE SIDEWALK AND THEN PUT THEM UP IN NICE ROWS IN FRONT OF LIKE HOTELS AND OTHER TOURIST ATTRACTIONS.

AND I JUST THOUGHT IT WAS A BRILLIANT IDEA.

I HAVE NOTICED, UH, RECENTLY, IN RECENT YEARS THAT THAT, UM, PROCESS ISN'T AS EFFECTIVE.

AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE HAVING AN EMPLOYMENT OR A RESOURCE ISSUE WITH THAT.

UM, CAN YOU KIND OF TALK ABOUT THAT A LITTLE MORE AND HOW YOU PLAN TO MITIGATE THAT? OKAY, WE NEED IT.

I CAN'T NECESSARILY SPEAK FOR OTHER COMPANIES OUT THERE.

WE'RE NOT THE ONLY COMPANY THAT'S DOING THIS EVEN THOUGH WE'VE STARTED IT.

SO IF YOU'VE SEEN THIS CONCEPT DONE OUT THERE, IT'S ENTIRELY LIKELY THAT THAT WASN'T JUST US.

SO I CAN ONLY SPEAK IN OUR BUSINESS, I CAN'T SPEAK, YOU KNOW, ABOUT OTHER EXPERIENCES THAT YOU'VE HAD IN CITIES THAT MAYBE WE DON'T EVEN RUN THIS BUSINESS.

UM, BUT AT LEAST FOR US, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE VERY DETAILED, VERY CALCULATED OPERATING PROCEDURES TO MITIGATE THINGS LIKE THAT.

AND, AND I'M TALKING BOTH PROACTIVE AND REACTIVE.

SO THERE ARE PROACTIVE, UM, I WOULD SAY KINDA REBALANCING EFFORTS, WHICH IS A FANCY TERM FOR JUST MOVING THE VEHICLE FROM ONE LOCATION TO THE OTHER THAT'S MORE IDEAL.

UM, AND REACTIVE IN TERMS OF, OF GOING OUT AND ACTUALLY RESPONDING TO INQUIRIES FROM THE COMMUNITY OR FROM THE CITY ABOUT, UM, MOVING A PARTICULAR VEHICLE.

MAYBE IT WAS, YOU KNOW, PARKED I PROPERLY.

UM, SO THOSE ARE THINGS THAT WE DO, BUT NO, THAT THERE'S NO, I MEAN, STAFFING ISSUE.

I MEAN, WE ONLY RUN THE VISITS IF WE HAVE THE STAFF IN PLACE.

IF WE DON'T HAVE THE STAFF IN PLACE, UM, THEN WE WOULDN'T NECESSARILY HAVE VEHICLES ON THE ROAD.

SO IF WE WERE TO ENTER INTO AN AGREEMENT HYPOTHETICALLY AND WE DIDN'T LIKE HOW IT LITTERED THE SIDEWALKS OR HOW PEOPLE LEFT THEM EVERYWHERE AND THEY WEREN'T PICKING THEM UP TO OUR EXPECTATIONS, WHAT KIND OF RECOURSE WOULD WE HAVE TO GET OUT OF SUCH AGREEMENT? WELL, THAT'S WHY WE WOULD START WITH A PILOT PROGRAM.

UH, THEY'RE SUGGESTING RIGHT NOW IT WOULD BE A 12 MONTH PILOT PROGRAM.

IT COULD BE AS SHORT OF, UH, AS A SIX MONTH PILOT PROGRAM.

I THINK THE OTHER UNIQUE PART ABOUT BIRD IS, UH, WHEN THEY BRING ON A FLEET MANAGER, IT IS SOMEONE WHO IS LOCAL AND THAT WOULD BE AN ENTREPRENEURIAL TYPE OF JOB THAT WOULD BE CREATED HERE.

THAT PERSON WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE, UH, TO THE CITY AND FOR THE CITY WITH THE RIGHT PERSON AT, AT THE CITY LEVEL, WHETHER IT'S THROUGH PUBLIC WORKS OR PARKS, WHO WOULD CONTACT THEM AND SAY, YOU KNOW, YOUR VEHICLES HAVE ENDED UP OVER HERE AND UH, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY GET CLEANED, UH, CLEANED UP OR TAKEN RIGHT BACK TO THE, THE CORRECT DOCKING STATION.

DONE A PRETTY GOOD ANALYSIS ON OUR MARKET THAT THEY'VE TALKED TO ME ABOUT A COUPLE TIMES ALREADY.

UM, I THINK FROM BIRD'S LEVEL AS WELL, THEY'VE

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THEY BELIEVE IT'S GONNA WORK HERE, BUT THEY'RE ALSO WILLING TO, TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT IT DOES TAKE A PILOT PROGRAM FIRST TO MAKE SURE THAT THE RIDERSHIP IS GONNA BE WHAT THEY BELIEVE IT'S GONNA BE.

THE AMOUNT OF VEHICLES THAT THEY BRING IN, UH, WILL BE AT THAT LEVEL AND QUITE HONESTLY THAT THEY CAN FIND THE ENTREPRENEUR WHO'S GOING TO STEP UP AND BE THEIR REPRESENTATIVE WITHIN THE COMMUNITY.

BRETT, DO YOU GUYS HAVE A LOCATION OR A CERTAIN AREA IN MIND OR ARE YOU KIND OF JUST THINKING LIKE CITYWIDE? UH, I, I THINK RIGHT NOW THEY'VE, THEY'VE NAILED DOWN ABOUT TWO OR THREE DIFFERENT LOCATIONS.

WE'VE NOT SPECIFIED WITH THEM FROM OUR STANDPOINT OF WHERE WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE THEM.

OBVIOUSLY WE HAD SOMEONE LAST SUMMER WHO TRIED THIS ON TEXAS AVENUE.

UM, I DON'T BELIEVE THEY, THEY WOUND UP WITH THE, UH, SUCCESS LEVEL THAT THEY WERE ANTICIPATING.

OF COURSE WE HAD COVID AT THE TIME.

UH, AND THERE'S A DIFFERENT MARKETING LEVEL OF THIS TYPE OF A VEHICLE AS WELL, WHICH BYRD WITH AN INTERNATIONAL SENSE HAS A A BETTER MARKETING VEHICLE FOR IT.

I THINK WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY AS WELL, LET'S SAY IN ABOUT 12 MONTHS WHEN THE HOTEL CONVENTION ONLINE, UH, THAT LOCATION DOWN THERE AND THE BIKE TRAIL SYSTEM THAT ATTACHES TO THAT WOULD BE A GOOD LOCATION FOR SOMETHING LIKE THIS.

YOU GOT PARKING, UH, FAMILIES COULD GET ON THEM AND RIDE, YOU KNOW, UP AND DOWN SOME OF THE BIKE TRAIL, TAKEN SOME OF THAT AREA ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE CITY.

UH, CERTAINLY TEXAS AVENUE I THINK IS A ANOTHER LOCATION DOWN BY OUR PLAZA.

UH, THAT WOULD BE VERY IMPORTANT.

AS YOU START HEADING NORTH THOUGH, I THINK WE WOULD WANT TO TALK TO THESE GUYS ABOUT WHAT IS GONNA BE THE MOST IMPORTANT AREA, UH, OF IMPACT FOR THEM.

AS WE KNOW, WE'RE GETTING READY TO GO AND DO GARTH ROAD, THAT'S GONNA BE A MULTI-YEAR PROJECT.

GARTH ROAD IS PROBABLY A LITTLE BIT MORE CHALLENGED EVEN RIGHT NOW BECAUSE OF THE TRAFFIC FLOW.

I DON'T THINK WE WOULD WANT TO INTRODUCE THIS TYPE OF A VEHICLE INTO THAT SENSE RIGHT NOW.

BUT WE DO HAVE THE NICE BIKE TRAIL JUST ALONG SAN JACINTO THAT COULD BE USED.

UM, SO THERE ARE, THERE ARE WAYS THAT PEOPLE CAN GET AROUND USING THIS MODE OF TRANSPORTATION THAT WOULD BE A LITTLE BIT SAFER, BUT I STILL THINK THAT WE AS A CITY WOULD HAVE TO HAVE A LITTLE BIT FURTHER OF A CONVERSATION WITH THAT.

UH, AS YOU KNOW, THAT'S JUST TALKING ABOUT KIND OF THE CORE OF THE CITY.

WE WOULD STILL HAVE THE EAST SIDE OR THE WEST SIDE THAT, UM, THAT WE WOULD STILL WANT TO GET INTO AND TRY TO HELP GET THIS VEHICLE TRANSPORTATION IN THOSE AREAS.

ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS? UH, JUST A COMMENT, MAYOR.

YES MA'AM.

I WOULD PROBABLY MAYBE EVEN ADD THE LIBRARY AS A POSSIBLE LOCATION AS WELL.

SO .

YEAH, JUST A THOUGHT.

ANY ANY QUESTIONS? SO, SO, UH, FOR ME BRETT, SO THIS IS BASICALLY, IT'S THE CITY, I MEAN, WE'RE GOING TO AGREEMENT ARE COMING TO AN AGREEMENT.

ARE WE PRETTY MUCH ALLOWING THEM TO HAVE THE ONLY TYPE OF, I GUESS THIS TYPE OF AMENITY WITHIN OUR CITY? I MEAN, THAT'S PRETTY MUCH WHAT THIS IS GONNA BE ABOUT.

NO, WE'RE NOT SIGNING AN EXCLUSIVE, RIGHT? I, OF COURSE MIKE WOULD SAY YES, WE WOULD LOVE THAT, BUT NO, WE'RE NOT SIGNING AN EXCLUSIVE RIGHT FOR THEM TO DO THAT.

THEY ARE, FIRST OF ALL AND FOREMOST THE ONLY, UH, LARGE COMPANY THAT HAS APPROACHED US ABOUT DOING THIS.

SO TO ME, IT'S GOOD ANALYSIS TO FIND OUT IF IT'S GONNA WORK HERE AND AS LONG AS THEY'RE WILLING TO WORK IT ON A, UH, ON A, A TRIAL BASIS, I THINK THAT IS A BENEFIT FOR US BECAUSE WE CAN FIGURE OUT IF IT DOES WORK FANTASTIC, THEN WE HAVE A GOOD PARTNER THAT HAS SHOWN GOOD FAITH WITH US TO CONTINUE MOVING FORWARD.

IF IT DOESN'T, THEN WE STILL HAVE A GOOD PARTNER WHO'S WILLING TO COME IN AND TAKE THEIR EQUIPMENT OUT AND WE REALIZE THIS IS A MODE OF TRANSPORTATION THAT OUR CITIZENS ARE YET, UH, WELCOMING TO USE.

NO, I MEAN I THINK IT'S A GREAT PROGRAM.

I JUST, I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT, YOU KNOW, THE REASON WHY WE, WHY WE GO COME TO AN AGREEMENT IS, AND AND THAT'S THE ONLY QUESTIONS I REALLY HAVE.

I MEAN, IS THIS SOMETHING THEY JUST WANT ALLOWING THEM TO DO IT OR, OR NOT? HOW, HOW IS THAT UNDER OUR CITY PRE UH, PURVIEW IN ANY WAY? THAT, THAT'S PRETTY MUCH MY QUESTION.

WELL, BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO USE WHAT WE NEED AN AGREEMENT, I GUESS WOULD BE THE QUESTION.

YEAH, THEY, THEY, THEY WOULD BE USING A LOT OF CITY RIGHT OF WAYS.

UH, FOR THE DOCKING OF THE VEHICLES FOR EXAMPLE.

UM, THERE MAY BE SOME CITY POWER INVOLVED DEPENDING ON WHERE THEY DOCK THEM AT.

IF WE PUT THEM UP AT THE LIBRARY FOR EXAMPLE, WE MAY HAVE TO ASSIST THEM WITH, UH, A POWER SUPPLY.

AND THEN AS YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT TRANSPORTATION UP AND DOWN OUR TRAIL SYSTEM, WE WOULD WANNA MAKE SURE THAT UM, YOU KNOW, SAFETY REGULATIONS ARE THAT WE AS A CITY ARE NOT UNDERTAKING A WHOLE BUNCH OF LIABILITY IN THAT RESPECT.

SO, AND THEY OBVIOUSLY HAVE DONE THIS IN NUMEROUS OTHER COMMUNITIES BEFORE, SO THEY, THEY'RE VERY WELL AWARE OF THESE THINGS, BUT IT IS NEW FOR US.

NO, AND I THINK IT'S GREAT.

I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE WHAT, WHAT ARE WE REALLY AGREEING TO, BUT I THINK I HAVE THAT.

I'M I'M FINE NOW.

AND, AND I PROBABLY JUST ADD ONE, ONE CLARIFICATION.

WE, SO WE DON'T PHYSICALLY HAVE ANY DOCKING STATIONS.

I KNOW THAT THAT'S USED AT TIMES, BUT THEY ARE DOCK LISTS, MEANING THAT THERE'S NOT ANY TYPE OF CONSTRUCTION OR POWER NEEDED ON CITY RIGHT OF WAY.

THAT ALSO MEANS THAT WE CAN MOVE SOME OF THESE DEPLOYMENT ZONES TO WHEREVER AREAS THAT WE SEE FIT, DEPENDING ON WHERE WE'RE SEEING DEMAND OR MAYBE THE EVENTS THAT ARE HAPPENING OR CONSTRUCTION THAT WE HAVE TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT.

SO THERE'S A LOT OF ELASTICITY WHEN IT COMES TO THIS PROGRAM.

IT'S NOT JUST A, HEY, WE'RE PUTTING 'EM IN THESE 20 LOCATIONS AND THAT'S WHERE YOU'RE GONNA SEE THOSE SAME 20 LOCATIONS.

IT, IT,

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IT CAN BE MODIFIED.

UM, AND THE REASON WE DO AN AGREEMENT LIKE THIS IS TO SET THOSE EXPECTATIONS WITH THE CITY.

UM, IT'S SHOWING OUR INSURANCE COVERAGES, IT'S SHOWING THAT WE'RE INDEMNIFYING THE CITY.

UH, IT'S PUTTING OUT OUR, YOU KNOW, PARKING REQUIREMENTS, UM, YOU KNOW, THINGS LIKE THAT, WHICH I THINK A LOT OF CITIES DO LIKE TO SEE.

AND, AND YEAH, LIKE THE BIGGEST FACTOR, LIKE BRETT MENTIONED IS WE ARE USING CITY PROPERTY IN SOME FASHION.

UM, AND WHEN THAT HAPPENS, THERE LIKELY NEEDS TO BE SOME TYPE OF AGREEMENT.

UH, IS THERE ANY, ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS I GUESS FOR, UH, MR. BUTLER OR BRETT? SO IF NOT, I GUESS, UH, WE WILL, WE'LL SEE WHAT THE NEXT STEPS ARE.

IT JUST RECEIVE AND DISCUSS A PRESENTATION IS ALL OUR ITEMS. YEAH, WE'LL, WE'LL CONTINUE WORKING ON THIS AND AS WE MOVE FORWARD, WE GET AN AGREEMENT WE'LL HAVE, UM, OBVIOUSLY OUR CITY ATTORNEY UH, WILL BE RATIFYING THAT AND AS, UH, WE HAVE IT TO PRESENT TO YOU, WE'LL PUT IT BACK ON THE AGENDA FOR APPROVAL.

WE'LL, ON TO ITEM EIGHT B, WE HAVE ONE CITIZEN DIS UH, SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON ITEM EIGHT.

B, WHICH HAD DISCUSSED THE PROPOSAL AGREEMENT FOR BRINGING THE BATTLESHIP TEXAS TO BAYLOR MARINA.

UH, MR. ISAAC, ARE YOU ONLINE? YES, MR. MARIN.

ALRIGHT, UH, YOU HAVE, UH, YOUR THREE MINUTES, MR. MARIN COUNSEL, DAVID ISAAC, 28 12 LANDMARK DRIVE, BAYTOWN, TEXAS WOULD LIKE TO DISCUSS, UH, THE UPCOMING PROPOSED AGREEMENT TO MARINA BAY WITH THE BATTLESHIP.

WHEN I STOOD, UH, BY MARINA BAY, UH, OR BAILIN ISLAND, UH, MR. MAYOR GAVE A SPEECH AND HAD NOTED THAT, UH, PETE AL FARRO HAD CONCEIVED THE IDEA IN THE MID NINETIES TO HAVE THAT GRAND ESTABLISHMENT THAT WE'RE TRYING TO BUILD.

I THINK THAT THE BATTLESHIP WOULD ACCOMMODATE THAT AREA, UH, PRETTY WELL AND GIVE US A UNIQUE EXPERIENCE, UH, THAT WE'VE NEVER SEEN BEFORE.

I'M MASKING THE CITY COUNCIL TONIGHT, UH, TO HAVE AN OPEN EAR AND TO, UH, DILIGENTLY WORK FOR THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN TRYING TO GET THIS DONE AND, AND BRING THIS BATTLESHIP HOME TO BAYTOWN.

UH, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY.

UH, WE HAVE ITEM, UM, EIGHT B NOW, UH, GUESS THERE'S GONNA BE AN, THERE'S AN AGREEMENT THAT I BELIEVE WAS SENT TO COUNCIL, I THINK MR. DAVIS, DO YOU HAVE A FEW COMMENTS, UH, TO PREFACE THE AGREEMENT ITSELF, UH, IN THE AGREEMENT ITSELF, ALSO, THERE WAS SOME BLANKS AND I'M ASSUMING THAT'S THE DIRECTION THAT WE'RE SEEKING TONIGHT.

[b. Discuss proposed agreement for bringing the Battleship Texas to the Bayland Marina. ]

YEAH, THAT'S RIGHT.

MAYOR AND COUNSEL.

UH, YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU AN AGREEMENT, AND I, I DID SEND YOU, UH, A PART OF A PRE, WELL, THE ENTIRE PRESENTATION, UH, FOR TONIGHT, IF WE, WE ACTUALLY FIND IT, WE'LL, WE'LL PULL IT UP FOR YOU.

BUT IN ESSENCE, UH, THIS, THIS AGREEMENT THAT YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU IS, UH, THE PRODUCT OF, UH, USING THE, UH, A MODEL AGREEMENT THAT, UH, THE CITY OF CORPUS CHRISTI, UH, THERE WE GO, UH, UTILIZED, UH, WITH THE LEXINGTON.

SO THAT WAS JUST KIND OF A MODEL BECAUSE WE, I HAD TO BEGIN SOMEWHERE WITH THIS.

THIS IS A LEASE AND PARTICIPATION AGREEMENT.

UM, THE OBJECTIVE IS TO PROVIDE A FRAMEWORK BY WHICH WE COULD FACILITATE AND PARTICIPATE IN THE PERMANENT LOCATION OF THE BATTLESHIP TEXAS TO BAYLEN ISLAND.

AND YOU'LL REMEMBER THIS, UH, CHART OF MANY COLORS THAT, UH, REALLY SUMMARIZED, CAPTURED THE FEEDBACK, UH, OF THE, UH, COUNCIL WITH REGARD TO WHAT, UH, PROVISIONS ORIGINALLY PROPOSED BY THE, UH, FOUNDATION THAT WE'D BE WILLING TO INTEGRATE INTO AN AGREEMENT.

UH, SO IN BASIC TERMS, THE, UH, ELEMENTS OF THE AGREEMENT IS THAT WE WOULD LEASE CERTAIN SUBMERGED AND OTHER CONTROL, CITY CONTROLLED PROPERTIES, UH, BAYLEN ISLAND, UH, FOR THE SIGHTING OF THE BATTLESHIP TEXAS.

UH, LIKELY THIS WOULD BE A 40 YEAR TERM.

AS, AS YOU REMEMBER FROM OUR OTHER DISCUSSIONS, UH, BEYOND 40 YEARS, UH, LOOKS MORE LIKE A SALE AT THAT TIME, THAT THIS COULD CERTAINLY BE RENEWABLE.

UH, THE MONETARY PARTICIPATION WOULD COME IN THE, IN THE FORM OF, UH, REIMBURSED QUALIFIED EXPENSES ASSOCIATED WITH CITING THE BATTLESHIP CONSTRUCTING FACILITIES AND PROVIDING OTHER ACCOMMODATING ELEMENTS.

AND UTILITIES ARE, UH, AVAILABLE ON THE ISLAND.

AS YOU KNOW, WE ARE, UH, WITH REGARD TO WASTEWATER, WE'RE BUILDING OUT THE, UH, ISLAND, UH, WITH A NEW LIFT STATION.

SO THAT SHOULD HANDLE THE COMPLETE BUILD OUT.

UH, WE HAVE THE ELECTRICAL FACILITIES THERE AND ALSO WE HAVE A 12 INCH WATER LINE.

SO WE ARE FULLY ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE, I THINK, UH, THE BATTLESHIP IN TERMS OF THE UTILITIES FOUNDATION WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR CONNECTION AND FOR THE USAGE OF THOSE UTILITIES.

UH, FINALLY, REVENUES GENERATED BY FUNDRAISING FOR THE BATTLESHIP AND, UH, OTHER, UM, REVENUES THAT THEY GENERATE WOULD BE CONTROLLED BY THE FOUNDATION.

AND WE WOULD AGREE

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NOT TO ENGAGE IN A SEPARATE FUNDRAISING ENDEAVOR, UH, FOR THE BATTLESHIP AT THE SAME TIME THAT THE FOUNDATION IS.

AND THAT, I THINK THAT'S FAIRLY LOGICAL AND, AND REASONABLE.

UM, SO AS YOU RECALL, THIS IS THE DIAGRAM THAT, UH, I RECEIVED FROM GARFIELD, UH, SHOWING THE PLACEMENT OF THE BATTLESHIP EXACTLY WHERE IT WOULD BE, UH, NEXT STEPS.

YOUR FEEDBACK HERE TONIGHT, FINALIZATION OF THE PROPOSED AGREEMENT AND THE SUBMISSION OF THAT DRAFT AGREEMENT TO THE, UH, BATTLESHIP TEXAS FOUNDATION.

UH, SO THERE'LL PROBABLY BE SOME BACK AND FORTH THAT ARE, UH, BASED ON WHAT WE DETERMINE HERE TONIGHT.

YOU ARE CORRECT.

THE, THAT LEVEL OF PARTICIPATION, YOUR TOLERANCE OR APPETITE FOR, UH, FISCAL PARTICIPATION IS, UH, WHAT HAS NOT BEEN DETERMINED IN THIS AGREEMENT.

BUT ALL OTHER ELEMENTS THAT, AS FAR AS I COULD TELL, UM, ARE, ARE IN THE AGREEMENT AS PER YOUR EARLIER FEEDBACK.

SO WITH THAT, HAPPY TO TAKE ANY, UH, UH, FEEDBACK FROM YOU SO THAT WE CAN, UH, WORK TOWARDS A MORE FINALIZED AGREEMENT AND BE, I GUESS BEFORE WE OPEN UP TO, TO GENERAL COMMENTS.

UM, I KNOW, UH, THERE WAS A PRESENTATION DONE, I BELIEVE IN, IN ONE OF THE MAIN MEETINGS, UM, THAT I, I DIDN'T ATTEND.

BUT, UH, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT, UH, THE FOUNDATION WHEN IT CAME TO REALLY THE, THE LARGEST, UM, INDIVIDUAL LINE ITEM AS FAR AS COSTS IS THE DREDGING AND AND PLACEMENT.

SO IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING AT LEAST THAT THAT WOULD NOT BE THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE CITY OF BAYTOWN.

AND, AND THAT RIGHT THERE IS, IS SOME CLARITY THAT I'M SEEKING.

I THINK THAT POSITION HAS BEEN REPEATED, UH, FREQUENTLY.

UH, I THINK THAT IS THEIR UNDERSTANDING.

I THINK THAT FUNDRAISING WILL BE FOCUSED ON ALL THE ELEMENTS ASSOCIATED WITH CITING THE, UH, THE, UH, BATTLESHIP AND THEN HYPOTHETICALLY THE CITY COULD THEN REIMBURSE A CERTAIN QUALIFIED OR THOSE QUALIFIED EXPENSES UP TO A NOT TO EXCEED NUMBER.

AND THAT'S THE BLANK OBVIOUSLY RIGHT NOW TOO.

THAT'S THE BLANK.

SO, UM, I JUST WANTED THAT CLARIFIED 'CAUSE THAT CERTAINLY WAS THE BIGGEST COST DRIVER WHEN IT COMES TO PLACEMENT OF THE BATTLESHIP TAX.

THERE'S NO SPECIFICITY IN THIS AGREEMENT AS PER SPECIFIC, UH, UH, RESPONSIBILITIES FOR THE CITY IN TERMS OF, UH, DREDGING OR A CONSTRUCTION OF A MUSEUM STORE, ET CETERA, PARKING, IT'S SIMPLY A REIMBURSEMENT.

I'LL OPEN UP TO COUNCIL COMMENTS.

UM, HOPEFULLY YOU HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW, UM, I GUESS THE ELEMENTS OF THE AGREEMENT ITSELF.

SO, UM, JUST A QUICK COMMENT, MAYOR MA'AM, IF I MAY, UM, IN, I KNOW IN IN THE BEGINNING THERE SEEMED TO HAVE BEEN A SENSE OF URGENCY, UH, UH, FROM SOME OF THE PROPONENTS FOR THE BATTLESHIP.

AND, UH, I DID IN SPEAKING WITH RICK TO ENSURE THAT WE'RE MEETING ANY TIMELINES.

AND SO HE DID GO BACK TO THE FOUNDATION AND HE SAID, OH, NO, YOU GUYS ARE FINE.

SO IT WASN'T THE FACT THAT WE WERE LAGGING ON A DECISION.

UM, AND IT, UH, IMMEDIATELY FELT LIKE THERE WAS SOME SORT OF PRESSURE, BUT JUST KNOW THAT WE ARE WORKING IN THE CONFINES OF THE TIMELINE OF THE FOUNDATION.

SO I, I'VE BEEN IN FAIRLY FREQUENT CONTACT WITH BRUCE BRAMLETT AND MR. BRAMLETT, UH, AND, UH, STATED THAT HIS NEXT BOARD MEETING, I BELIEVE IS THE THIRD WEEK OF AUGUST.

I BELIEVE.

DON'T HOLD ME TO THAT, BUT IT IS IN AUGUST.

AND I TOLD HIM ABOUT OUR TIMELINE THAT WHAT WE WOULD BE CONSIDERING HERE TONIGHT, AND HE THOUGHT THAT THAT FIT, UH, THEIR NEEDS.

THIRD WEEK IN AUGUST.

IT TAKE TO ACCOMMODATE PLACEMENT, UH, THAT WE'D BE RESPONSIBLE FOR.

ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? UM, WE NEED A LITTLE DIRECTION.

MY PHONE NEVER WORKS UNTIL IT SHOULDN'T WORK.

SORRY ABOUT THAT, MAYOR.

THAT'S OKAY.

AT LEAST IT WAS ON FLIP PHONE, SO YOU IMPRESSED ME.

SO, UH, I WOULD SAY THAT THAT, UH, WE, WE DON'T, WE NEED TO PROVIDE THAT.

UM, OH, MINE'S GOING OFF NOW TOO, AMBER ALERT.

BUT ANYWAY, UM, I'M NOT SURE IF IT'S BAD WEATHER OR AMBER, AMBER ALERT OR THAT, SO WE NEED TO PROVIDE SOME FINANCIAL DIRECTION.

I'M SURE THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE SEEKING.

I, I GUESS WHERE I'M AT ON IT, IF I MAY SPEAK ON THAT, IS THAT I REALLY NEED, WE NEED SOME TYPE OF, YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE WE DOING AND WHAT IS THAT ESTIMATE? AND I MEAN, 'CAUSE I DON'T WANT TO JUST PULL A NUMBER OUT THE AIR OF A NOT TO EXCEED AND IT NEED, 'CAUSE IT REALLY NEEDS TO HAVE A BASIS TO IT.

IF IT'S, UH, IF IT'S INFRASTRUCTURE, IF IT'S A, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE, IF IT'S, UH, AN IMPROVEMENT, UM, HOW CAN WE DETERMINE THAT? 'CAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE REALLY NEED TO KNOW IS WHAT DO WE NEED? I'VE ALWAYS EXPRESSED WHAT DOES

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AND THEN WE NEED TO, WE NEED TO BUILD IT AROUND THAT.

I DON'T WANT IT JUST TO PULL A NUMBER FROM, FROM THE AIR TO SAY, I FEEL IT'S JUST $2 MILLION.

AND THAT'S, THAT'S THE NOT TO SUCCEED.

I NEED IT BASED ON SOMETHING.

SO IN THE BEGINNING, WE, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND, UH, WHERE YOUR TOLERANCE IS WITH REGARD TO QUALIFIED EXPENSES.

THOSE COULD BE AS BROAD AS INCLUDING THE DREDGING AND THE BOLT WORK AND BULK WORK.

I MEAN, OF THE, UH, OF THE, UH, BATTLESHIP, UH, IT COULD INCLUDE THE MUSEUM STORE, IT COULD INCLUDE PARKING ACCOMMODATIONS OR OTHER PUBLIC ACCOMMODATIONS.

UM, I COULD TELL YOU IF YOU, YOU GET INTO PARKING OR THE MUSEUM STORE, THE MUSEUM STORE, UH, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY THAT THAT'S GOING TO GO INTO THE, A FEW MILLION DOLLARS TO, TO CONSTRUCT THAT.

A PARKING FACILITY COULD BE AS MUCH AS 10, AS LITTLE AS SIX, UM, DREDGING, I PROBABLY WOULDN'T INCLUDING THAT.

I THINK THERE ARE SO MANY OTHER EXPENSES ASSOCIATED WITH APPROPRIATELY ACCOMMODATING THE BATTLESHIP AFTER IT GETS HERE THAT YOU COULD CHOOSE AMONG THOSE, UH, QUALIFIED EXPENSES.

AND THEN, UH, WHAT I THEN DISCUSS IF I WERE YOU IS A NOT TO EXCEED NUMBER.

I MEAN, THOSE, THOSE ARE MY, MY COMMENTS.

I, I'M OPEN UP TO REST OF COUNCIL.

IS THERE A STAFF RECOMMENDATION ON A NUMBER? BECAUSE I PERSONALLY DON'T KNOW WHAT A MUSEUM COSTS OR A PARKING STRUCTURE OR, I MEAN, IS THERE A, A NUMBER THAT WE CAN START WITH? AND, AND THEN MY OTHER QUESTION WOULD BE IS WHERE WHERE IS THE MONEY COMING FROM? UH, WE HAVE NOT DETERMINED A FUNDING SOURCE YET FOR THAT.

SO I'LL START WITH THAT QUESTION.

THAT, THAT WOULD, IT REALLY DEPENDS ON THE LEVEL OF FUNDING THAT, THAT YOU WANT TO THROW AT THIS.

UH, IN TERMS OF, UH, COSTS, A PARKING GARAGE CAN BE ANYWHERE FOR ABOUT 300 SPOTS.

UH, ANYWHERE FROM ABOUT 6 MILLION TO $10 MILLION.

THERE ARE CONSTRUCTION ALTERNATIVES THAT CAN GET THE PRICE A LITTLE BIT LOWER.

AT THE MUSEUM STORE, I HAVE ESTIMATED ABOUT TWO AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS, UH, TO BUILD THAT OUT.

WE ARE TALKING ABOUT A FAIRLY, UH, LARGE STRUCTURE THAT HAS OFFICES AND STORAGE.

IT'S NOT JUST A MUSEUM, UH, STORE.

SO THOSE ARE SOME PRELIMINARY FIGURES.

I THINK YOU CAN KIND OF, UH, HANG A HAT ON A LITTLE BIT.

BUT, UH, UH, OTHER COSTS WE HAVE NOT LOOKED INTO.

UM, THE UTILITIES ARE ALREADY BEING TAKEN CARE OF, FOR EXAMPLE, AND PROBABLY WALKWAYS AND OTHER PEDESTRIAN ACCOMMODATIONS CAN BE SOMEWHAT NEGLIGIBLE.

BUT, UH, I WOULD START PROBABLY WITH THE MUSEUM STORE AND THE PARKING FACILITY.

THERE'S NOTHING TO SAY THAT ANY OF THESE COUNCIL CAN'T BE PART OF THE FUNDRAISING ENDEAVOR.

UH, ITSELF.

SO, UH, IT COULD ALL BE COVERED BY FUNDRAISING.

DOES THE COUNCIL AD HOC COMMITTEE HAVE A RECOMMENDATION? UM, I DO NOT HAVE A RECOMMENDATION BECAUSE I'M UNDER THE SAME, UM, I GUESS QUESTION AS FAR AS WHAT IT WOULD REALLY TAKE, UM, TO DO THAT.

UM, I, I BELIEVE, UH, COUNCILMAN LESTER MAY HAVE SOME IDEAS OF WHAT HE WOULD LIKE TO RECOMMEND .

UM, BUT, UH, AT THIS TIME, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT WE WOULD NOT PAY FOR THE DREDGING BECAUSE OF THE FUNDRAISER.

THAT THAT HAS BEEN THE INITIAL PROPOSAL THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'VE ALLOCATED FUNDS, UH, TO HELP TOWARDS THE FUNDRAISER, WHICH WOULD TAKE CARE OF THAT, THE BIGGEST BULK OF THE PRICE.

AND, AND I CAN UNDERSTAND DEPENDING ON, ON WHAT THAT AMOUNT IS, IT IT, IT WILL DETERMINE MORE OF THE FUNDING SOURCE OR NOT.

UM, AND I KNOW EARLY DISCUSSIONS, UM, WE MENTIONED, OKAY, MAYBE WE CAN DO THE, UM, THE MUSEUM.

AND SO MY NEXT QUESTION WOULD BE IF WE ALLOCATE, UM, ANY MONIES, WOULD THERE BE, YOU KNOW, AN OPPORTUNITY TO COME BACK AND SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT, IT REALLY DID COST TWO AND A HALF MILLION IF WE'RE ALLOCATING TO.

AND SO WOULD COUNSEL, UH, BE WILLING TO OPEN UP THAT AVENUE IF WE SET A MINIMUM NOW AND THEN HAVE TO DO A CHANGE ORDER LATER? MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE THAT WE, WE ALLOW OUR AD HOC COMMITTEE TO, TO ENGAGE STAFF AND THE FOUNDATION FIRST.

I THINK WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS DETERMINE WHAT SIZE BUILDING WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.

I THINK WE CAN PRETTY MUCH GET AN ESTIMATE BASED OFF OF JUST CONSTRUCTION AND COST ON, ON THAT.

AND THEN, YOU KNOW, I DON'T THINK WE NEED A WHOLE PARKING STRUCTURE JUST FOR THE BATTLESHIP, BUT I DO THINK THAT WE, UM, IF OTHER THINGS ON THE ISLAND ARE SUCCESSFUL, AS WE BELIEVE THERE WILL BE, THAT WILL BE PART OF IT TO HELP ACCOMMODATE ALL, EVERYTHING, ALL THE ACTIVITIES ON THE, ON BAYLON ISLAND ITSELF.

SO LET'S TRY TO, I REALLY NEED US TO PUT, UH, SOME FRAMEWORK ON SOME COST AND SOME BASIS TO IT AND, AND A FUNDING SOURCE.

AND A FUNDING SOURCE, OBVIOUSLY.

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BUT, UM, SO I, I WOULD ASK THE AD HOC COMMITTEE TO GO AND ENGAGE STAFF AND ENGAGE, UH, THE FOUNDATION TO AGREE ON A SIZE OF, OF A, OF A MUSEUM AND WHATEVER, WHATEVER ASSOCIATED BILL OR WHATEVER SQUARE FOOTAGE IS NEEDED FOR THAT.

UM, AND THEN COME BACK TO COUNCIL WITH THE RECOMMENDATION OF SOME SORT THAT'S BASED OFF OF OBVIOUSLY CONSTRUCTION COSTS.

AND THEN, UM, ANYTHING, ANYTHING ELSE WITH THAT.

AND I THINK IT WOULD GIVE US AN INDICATION OF, IS THAT GONNA BE SOMETHING THAT'S AGREEABLE, UH, TO THE FOUNDATION EVEN PRIOR TO THEIR, THEIR, THEIR THIRD WEEK OF AUGUST MEETING.

UM, SO WE CAN HOPEFULLY MOVE FORWARD WITH TWO THINGS.

ONE, AN AGREEMENT THAT, THAT THEY CAN CONSIDER.

AND TWO, AN ANNOUNCEMENT THAT BAYTOWN HAS BEEN SELECTED AS THE BATTLESHIP LOCATION.

THAT'S, THAT'S, THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT I NEED TO HAPPEN.

UM, SO WE HAVE A MONTH OR SO TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN.

SO MAYOR OR MAY I, THAT'S WHAT I WOULD ASK.

UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I KNOW I'VE BEEN TALKING TO OUR CITY MANAGER ABOUT, UM, AS WE MOVE FORWARD WITH DIFFERENT PLANS IS ALSO WHAT TYPE OF TRAFFIC IMPACT IT WOULD HAVE TO THE SOUTHWEST EDITION NEIGHBORHOOD.

UM, THOSE, UH, THAT NEIGHBORHOOD BROUGHT UP SEVERAL CONCERNS.

AS YOU KNOW, WE'VE LAUNCHED THE, THE NEW CIVIC ASSOCIATION THERE.

AND SO THAT'S THE FIRST THING THEY ASKED IS, YOU KNOW, HEY, THIS, OUR, OUR NEIGHBORHOOD WISCONSIN TO, OR MISSOURI TO WYOMING IS, IS A DIRECT ENTRY TO BAYLEN ISLAND.

UM, SO WHAT ARE Y'ALL GOING TO DO IF, IF WE HAVE A LOT OF TRAFFIC NOW GOING THROUGH THERE, WHAT IS IT GONNA LOOK LIKE IF, UH, THE BATTLESHIP AND ULTIMATELY, UM, THE HOTEL AS WELL, HAVING THE MALL THERE.

AND SO, UM, WE'VE BEEN LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, WHAT STRATEGIES WE CAN IMPLEMENT, UH, TO CURVE SOME OF THAT TRAFFIC GOING STRAIGHT THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

UM, I, I RESEARCHED THE TOP 10, UH, BATTLESHIPS THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY, AND THERE'S ONLY ONE OTHER IN HAWAII THAT WOULD BE SIMILAR, THAT RUNS RIGHT THROUGH A NEIGHBORHOOD.

OBVIOUSLY I DON'T HAVE ANY DATA TO SEE WHAT KIND OF IMPACT IT'S MADE TO THAT NEIGHBORHOOD.

UM, BUT WE WOULD BE THE SECOND OUT OF THE TOP 10.

AND AS FAR AS COSTS, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE ALREADY IN SOME OF THE DISCUSSIONS OF CAPITAL PROGRAM AS FAR AS DOING SOME RENOVATIONS AND EXPANSION AT THE MARINA, THE SHIP STORE.

SO THAT'S SOME OF THE COSTS THAT, YOU KNOW, IF WE'RE, IF WE'RE GONNA BE BUILDING SOME STRUCTURES OUT THERE, YOU KNOW, WE COULD KIND OF TIE THOSE TOGETHER A LITTLE BIT TO SAVE US AND THEM AND, AND BE A LITTLE MORE JUNK THAT WHAT IS THAT COST? I AGREE.

WE NEED TO START NAIL THAT DOWN.

I'M ALWAYS CONCERNED, AND, AND RICK BROUGHT THIS UP SEVERAL TIMES WHEN WE START SAYING, OH, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO HAVE A PARKING STRUCTURE FOR THE BATTLESHIP.

THAT'S, I'M GONNA BULK AT THAT.

'CAUSE THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY TRUE.

WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT A PARKING STRUCTURE FOR THE HOTEL CONFERENCE CENTER, RIGHT.

SINCE DAY ONE.

IF WE NEED TO BUILD A GARAGE, WHICH I THINK WE SHOULD, WITH A FIVE STAR HOTEL, YOU SHOULD HAVE PARKING.

UH, THEN THAT'S SEPARATE AND DISTINCT.

THERE'D BE FEES IF YOU WANT TO PARK THERE AND YOU'RE NOT STAYING AT THE HOTEL, THERE'S FEES THAT COMES TO US, NOBODY ELSE.

SO WE KIND OF GO WITH IT FROM THERE.

BUT I THINK THERE'S SOME, UH, OPPORTUNITIES FOR US TO DO SOME RENOVATIONS AND EXPANSION AT THE MARINA AND THE SHIP STORE IN ADDITION TO THE PO POTENTIAL MUSEUM OR WHATEVER, DEPENDING ON HOW WE CAN MAKE THAT WORK.

BUT I THINK THIS IS A GOOD OPPORTUNITY.

I THINK RICK DID A GREAT JOB ON THE PROPOSAL TO BE ABLE TO KIND OF TWEAK IT A LITTLE BIT AND THEN KICK IT TO THE FOUNDATION.

AS YOU SAID, THEY NEED TO COME TO THE TABLE AND SAY, YES, BAYTOWN IS GONNA BE THE LOCATION, AND LET'S HAMMER OUT A DEAL.

IF IT'S STILL UP IN THE AIR, IT'S HARD FOR US TO HAMMER OUT A DEAL.

NO, I, I'D AGREE.

AND, AND, AND IT'S JUST, UM, I MEAN REALLY, WE'VE BEEN DEALING THIS WITH THIS TWO YEARS PLUS.

UM, AND SO I THINK IT, IT'S TIME FOR DECISIONS TO BE MADE WITH THE INFORMATION AT HAND.

UH, I GUESS THE QUESTION ON THE AGREEMENT ITSELF, BESIDES JUST TO FILL IN THE BLANK, NOT TO EXCEED NUMBER, UM, AS LONG AS COUNSEL IS, IS COMFORTABLE WITH THE STRUCTURE OF THE AGREEMENT, WHICH I WAS, I THINK IT WAS, IT WAS HELPFUL.

I, I THOUGHT IT WAS PUT TOGETHER WELL, IT IS JUST THE DIRECTION ON, ON NOT TO EXCEED WHAT WOULD BE OUR RESPONS, WHAT WOULD BE OUR RESPONSIBILITY, UM, WHAT WOULD BE THEIR RESPONSIBILITY, AND THEN WHAT'S THE COST ASSOCIATED WITH THAT.

SO THAT'S WHERE I'LL LEAVE IT.

I KNOW THERE'S INDIVIDUALS HERE THAT, THAT ARE CERTAINLY SUPPORTIVE OF I COMING TO TEXAS.

I MEAN, COMING THE BATTLESHIP TEXAS COMING TO BAILIN ISLAND.

UM, BUT WE HAVE TO BE FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE.

DO WE BELIEVE IT'S THE BEST PLACE FOR THE BATTLESHIP? UH, AND THAT I DO BELIEVE THAT IT WILL CERTAINLY BE AN ATTRACTION TO THE ISLAND AND TO THE ENTIRE REGION STILL.

UM, BUT WE NEED TO BE FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE IF WE WERE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS AGREEMENT.

SO THAT'S WHERE'RE AT RIGHT NOW, SO YES, SIR.

YEAH, TO MIKE'S POINT, I, I WOULD RECOMMEND, AND I UNDERSTOOD THE DIRECTION OF THE COUNCIL WAS NOT TO GET TIED TO SPECIFIC IMPROVEMENTS, BUT MORE RETREAT TO A REIMBURSEMENT TYPE OF APPROACH

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TO THIS.

UM, I THINK THAT WOULD BE A LOT CLEANER.

WHAT I MIGHT RECOMMEND TO THE COUNCIL, UH, IF I CAN MAKE JUST TWO POINTS, IS THAT WE COULD, UH, ACTUALLY REFOR, UH, MAKE AN AMENDMENT TO THIS AGREEMENT, UH, AND SET IT ONTO, UH, THE FOUNDATION SO THEY HAVE SOMETHING TO BEGIN TO WORK ON.

I WANNA BE TIMELY, UH, WITH THIS, THAT REALLY, UH, INDICATES IN THE AGREEMENT THAT WE WOULD REVISIT THE LEVEL OF FUNDING THROUGH AN ADDENDUM TO THIS AGREEMENT, OR THROUGH AN AMENDMENT TO THIS AGREEMENT LATER ON.

THAT'S RIGHT.

AND SO THAT WOULD MAKE THE AGREEMENT WHOLE.

UH, KEEP IN MIND, IN TERMS OF FUNDING SOURCES, WE'RE, WE'RE ALWAYS USUALLY PRONE TO LOOK AT MDD AND, AND CIP AND THESE KIND OF, UH, SOURCES.

BUT, UH, RECALL THAT WE DO HAVE THE, AN CHIA BILL THAT, UH, IF WE CAN GET SOME SOLIDITY, UH, I THINK THAT, UH, THAT OUR ESTIMATES WERE THAT COULD PROVIDE THE CITY WITH ABOUT $9 MILLION, UH, OVER TIME IN, UH, SALES TAX AND HOT TAX REBATES FROM THE STATE.

SO, UH, WE ARE WORKING ON THAT BY THE WAY.

UH, TRYING TO GET THAT, UH, THERE HAS BEEN ONE CITY THAT HAS FOUND, HAS BEEN ABLE TO, UH, SECURE THAT, UH, A OR AT LEAST A, UM, A COMMITMENT FROM THE COMPTROLLER.

WE'RE TRYING TO DO THE SAME THING.

I MIGHT LOOK AT THE IMPROVEMENTS NEEDED FOR THE BATTLESHIP AS PHASE TWO, FOR EXAMPLE, OF THE ISLAND.

AND, UH, I THINK GARFIELD AND BOCA POWELL HAVE ACTUALLY PUT TOGETHER SOME PRELIMINARY DRAWINGS OF WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE.

SO, UM, IF YOU'RE OKAY, I WOULD, I WILL REFORMAT THE AGREEMENT AND, UH, SEND THAT BACK OUT TO YOU.

AND IF YOU'LL PLEASE INDICATE TO ME WHETHER THAT'S SATISFACTORY TO YOU, AND I CAN SEND THAT ON TO THE, THE FOUNDATION AND THEN OUR DELEGATION CAN BEGIN TO HAVE CONVERSATIONS WITH, WITH THEM ABOUT WHAT THAT SPECIFIC FUNDING LEVEL WOULD LOOK LIKE.

YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.

JUST, YOU KNOW, MARKET AS DRAFT AND, AND IT'S, IT'S A BEGINNING POINT TO, TO, TO SHARE.

OKAY, LET ME, LET ME DO THAT THEN.

ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS? MM-HMM .

DO WE KNOW WHAT CRITERIA THEY'RE GONNA USE IN DECIDING WHERE THEY WOULD LIKE THE BATTLESHIP TO GO? BECAUSE I DO NOT, BUT I KNOW THAT OUR EARLIER STUDY LOOKED AT, UH, I THINK TO THEM, UH, THE PRIMARY CRITERION HAS TO DO WITH POTENTIAL VISITORSHIP.

AND, UH, WE PERFORMED THAT STUDY SOME YEARS AGO, UH, THAT INDICATED A, A CERTAIN LEVEL OF, UH, VISITORSHIP TO THE ISLAND TO SEE THE, THE BATTLESHIP.

YOU MIGHT REMEMBER, WE ENGAGED A, A CONSULTANT TO DO THAT FOR US.

BJ HELPED US WITH THAT.

I THINK VISITORSHIP IS KING.

WOULD THAT HAVE CHANGED? I MEAN, HOW LONG AGO WAS THAT? HOW MANY YEARS? GEE, I DON'T, DO YOU GUYS RECALL? RECALL, ROUGHLY? I THINK IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN ABOUT, UH, 2019.

SO WOULD IT BE WISE TO TAKE ANOTHER LOOK AT THAT AGAIN, TO SEE IF, IF 'CAUSE TRENDS, IF ANYTHING HAS SHIFTED, THINGS HAVE SHIFTED SINCE COVID, IF THEY, AND I JUST WANT TO BE SURE THAT THEY'RE NOT GONNA BASE THEIR DECISION UP ON WHO'S GONNA WRITE THE BIGGER CHECK.

UH, I CAN CERTAINLY CHECK INTO THAT.

NO, I WILL.

I JUST WANNA SEE SOME TYPE OF CRITERIA THAT THEY'RE GONNA BE USING.

WE'RE GONNA BE SPENDING MONEY AND SPENDING TIME LOOKING INTO THIS AGREEMENT.

AND, UM, I HAVEN'T SEEN ANYTHING THAT SAYS WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS, THIS, THIS, OR THIS, AND THIS IS HOW WE'RE GONNA BASE OUR DECISION.

NO, I HAVEN'T EITHER.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMENTS? OKAY.

SO I THINK, AGAIN, WE'LL LEAN ON OUR AD HOC COMMITTEE TO GO AND, AND HAVE THAT, UM, COMMUNICATION WITH THE FOUNDATION AND, AND COME BACK WITH COUNSEL WITH THE FINAL RECOMMENDATION FROM THEM.

SO, UM, I WOULD, I WOULD ASSUME THAT WE, WE COME UP WITH SOMETHING BEFORE FOR THEM TO CONSIDER AT THEIR AUGUST, THEIR THIRD WEEK OF AUGUST MEETING.

THAT WOULD BE WHAT I WOULD, WHAT I WOULD ASK BECAUSE IT, IT, IT IS TIME TO, WOULD YOU LIKE THIS ON THE AGENDA AGAIN THEN ON THE 28TH TO DISCUSS FURTHER? MAYBE ON THE 28TH OF THIS MONTH, BUT CERTAINLY THE FIRST MEETING IN AUGUST FOR OKAY.

FOR SOMETHING TO FORWARD, UH, TO, TO THEM.

UM, IT'S TIME BOTH ON THEM AND BOTH FOR, FOR US AND OUR COMMUNITY.

IT'S TIME FOR DECISIONS TO BE MADE.

[c. Receive a Presentation Regarding the Modified Proposed FY23 Utility Rates.]

SO, OKAY.

WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM EIGHT C.

UH, WE DO HAVE ONE INDIVIDUAL THAT SIGNED UP TO SPEAK UNLESS THERE'S ANY MORE.

NO, SIR.

WE HAVE, UH, RECEIVED A PRESENTATION REGARDING THE MODIFIED PROPOSED FY 23 UTILITY RATES, UH, BEFORE MR. BEAVER SPEAKS, WE HAVE MR. ISAAC, ARE YOU THERE? YES.

WE'RE ABOUT TO HAVE THAT WAS MODIFIED FROM THE LAST MEETING.

YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES, MR. MAYOR AND COUNSEL.

DAVID ISAAC, 28 12 LANDMARK DRIVE.

LIKE TO COMMENT ON THE, UH, PROPOSED OR, UH, THE DISCUSSION

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AND IT SAYS, THE PREFACE HERE IS, UH, RECEIVE A PRESENTATION, DISCUSS, UH, THE PROPOSED UTILITY RATES BASED ON COMMENTS RECEIVED DURING THE JANUARY 23RD COUNCIL MEETING AND THE CITY COUNCIL.

IF YOU GO BACK AND LISTEN, ASK THE RIGHT QUESTIONS, UH, WAS INQUISITIVE ABOUT WAYS, UH, WITH THE ADMINISTRATION TO FIND OUT HOW NOT TO RAISE THE UTILITY RATES.

AND I WANTED TO SPEAK TONIGHT TO, UH, COMMEND OUR CITY COUNCIL, THIS GOVERNING BODY, UH, FOR WORKING TOGETHER TO MAKE SURE THAT, UH, THE ISSUES WITH INFLATION AND THE SPENDING AT THE PUMP ISN'T PILED UP ON US BY OUR CITY COUNCIL'S LEADERSHIP.

SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT.

THAT'S ALL I WANT TO SPEAK, UH, TONIGHT ON THIS MATTER.

UH, WE HAVE ITEM EIGHT C.

SO, UH, WE'RE GONNA RECEIVE A PRESENTATION REGARDING THE UTILITY RATE OR THE MODIFIED UTILITY RATE.

FOR THIS IS FOR THE, UH, 2000 GALLON OR BELOW BILL.

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL, STERLING BEAVER WITH PUBLIC WORKS AND ENGINEERING.

UM, AS STATED, YOU MAY RECALL RECEIVING A PRESENTATION, UM, AT THE LAST MEETING REGARDING THE UTILITY RATES.

UM, AT THAT TIME, YOU GUYS PROVIDED SOME FEEDBACK AND COMMENTS, UM, FOR US TO, UH, LOOK INTO.

UM, WE HOPE THAT THIS PRESENTATION TONIGHT ADDRESSES THOSE, UH, COMMENTS AND BETTER ALIGNS WITH WHAT YOUR, WHAT YOUR VISION IS FOR THE RATES.

AND THEN GIVE YOU, UM, AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT, UH, A LOWER END BILL, A TIER ONE, WHICH WOULD BE 2000 GALLONS OR BELOW.

AND A TIER TWO, WHICH WOULD BE, UM, 5,000 GALLONS IN BELOW, UM, WOULD BE, WOULD LOOK LIKE.

AND ALL ALONG WITH THE COMPARISON TO HOW WE RANK AGAINST SOME OTHER CITIES.

UM, SO FIRST, UH, KIND OF TOUCH ON THE WATER RATE.

THE LAST CITY WATER RATE WAS INSTITUTED IN 2014.

UM, THE LAST SEWER RATE INCREASE WAS INSTITUTED IN 2019.

UM, IN 2021, WE UPDATED OUR OUTSIDE OF CITY, UH, MULTIPLIER.

AND IN THE CURRENT MOST RECENT, UM, COST INCURRED FROM BWA, WHICH IS THE, UH, PROVIDER OF WATER TO THE CITY, UM, CITY OF HOUSTON HAS INSTITUTED TWO RATE INCREASES WITHIN THE, THE LAST 12 MONTHS.

UM, AND THEN BWA HAS INSTITUTED A RATE INCREASE TO THE CITY OF 6%.

UM, SO WITH THE RECOMMENDED, RECOMMENDED CHANGES BASED ON YOUR FEEDBACK, UM, REQUESTED NO CHANGE TO THE LOW END USER, WHICH WAS THE TIER ONE, 2000 GALLONS, UM, BELOW.

UM, THERE'S NO CHANGE TO THAT, NO CHANGE TO THE, UH, FIXED CHARGES, UM, FOR THAT GROUP AS WELL.

UM, INCREASE TO THE, UH, VOLUMETRIC CHARGES, UH, FOR AMOUNTS OVER 2000 GALLONS PER MONTH AND REDUCE THE TIERS FROM FIVE TO THREE, UM, AND IMPLEMENT A OUTTA CITY MULTIPLIER.

UH, 1.5 FOR OUTTA CITY RATE, UH, FOR THE FIXED AND THE, UH, VOLUMETRIC CHARGES.

UH, THE CHART HERE, UM, JUST GIVES YOU A LITTLE BIT OF HISTORICAL PERSPECTIVE ON, UH, WATER CHARGES FOR CITY OF HOUSTON'S RATE CHARGE TO BWA BALA'S RATE CHARGE TO THE CITY AND WHAT THAT'S LOOKED LIKE HISTORICALLY.

OVER THE LAST, UH, SEVERAL YEARS, UH, THE CITY'S WATER CHARGE HAS REMAINED, UM, FLAT, UH, WHILE CITY HOUSTON AND BWA, UM, BOTH HAVE HAD TO, UH, INCREASE RATES OVER THAT TIME.

THIS CHART IS A BREAKDOWN OF, UH, HOW OUR CURRENT TIERS ARE SET UP AND THE AMOUNT, UH, USERS THAT WE HAVE IN EACH TWO, EACH TIER.

UH, TIER ONE AND TIER TWO HAS THE BULK, UM, ABOUT 78% COMBINED BETWEEN THE TWO.

UM, WHEREAS THE OTHER, UM, REMAINING TIERS MAKE UP THE THE REST.

UM, SO THE, UH, BIGGEST GROUPS THAT ARE AFFECTED OBVIOUSLY ARE THE ONES THAT ARE FALLING IN THAT TIER ONE AND TIER TWO.

UM, THE CHART HERE, UH, SHOWS THE WHAT THE FIXED RATE CHARGES ARE FOR INSIDE CITY.

THERE'S, THERE'S NO PROPOSED CHANGE TO THIS.

THIS IS WHAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE.

UM, SO YOU'LL SEE TO THE RIGHT ALL, UM,

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CHANGES.

THE VARIANCE IS ZERO FOR THE, UH, VOLUMETRIC RATE CHARGES.

UM, THE REQUEST TO REMAIN AT THE, UH, SAME RATE HAS BEEN EXECUTED HERE OR SHOWN HERE.

UM, THE RATE INCREASE WOULD GO TO TIER TWO, AND THEN THE TIER THREE, FOUR, AND FIVE WOULD BE COMBINED INTO ONE TIER.

UM, AT THE RATE THAT YOU SEE OF THE 8 84, THE VARIANCE THAT YOU'RE SEEING IS COMPARING THE, UH, CURRENT TIER THREE RATE VERSUS, UM, WHAT YOU WOULD SEE.

SO THE OTHER, UM, LIKE THE CURRENT TIER FIVE WOULD OBVIOUSLY, IF, IF THEY WERE USING THAT, UH, MUCH WATER, IT'D BE A REDUCTION FOR MULTIFAMILY.

UM, SAME THING, UH, THE LOW END USER, UH, WOULD NOT SEE ANY CHANGE.

UH, THE TIER TWO, UH, USER WOULD SEE A VARIANCE OR INCREASE OF 78 CENTS, UH, PER A THOUSAND GALLONS ON THAT CURRENT RATE.

AND THEN IRRIGATION, UM, WOULD HAVE TWO TIERS.

UH, YOU'LL SEE THE, UH, 81 CENT VARIANCE.

THE INCREASE FOR, UH, TIER ONE, THE NEW TIER ONE, AND THE, UH, NEW TIER TWO WILL BE TWO 13 OUT OUT OUTSIDE CITY RATES, UM, IS PRETTY MUCH TAKES THE SAME, UH, RATE THAT THE INSIDE CITY AND THEN INTRODUCES THE, UH, MULTIPLIER OF THE 1.5, THE PROPOSED MULTIPLIER.

UM, SO THAT'S WHAT YOU'LL SEE THAT APPLIES TO THE FIXED RATE CHARGES.

AND YOU ALSO SEE THAT ON THE VOLUMETRIC RATE CHARGES.

SO THE OUTTA CITY RATE, UM, THE NEW PROPOSED, UH, WOULD BE 3 86 FOR THE TIER ONE, UH, WHICH IS A 78 CENT INCREASE.

UH, AND THEN TIER TWO AND TIER THREE WOULD, UH, SEE THE SUBSEQUENT INCREASES THAT YOU SEE THERE.

FOR MULTIFAMILY, SAME THING, IT'D BE A SMALLER, UH, INCREASE FOR THE, UM, TIER ONE OF THE 78 CENTS AS WELL, WHEREAS TIER TWO WOULD EXPERIENCE, UM, THE GREATEST INCREASE OUT OF THOSE TWO TIERS.

IRRIGATION IS ALSO SHOWN BELOW, SAME THING AS UM, WAS SHOWN ON THE OUTSIDE OR INSIDE CITY, I'M SURE.

I'M SORRY.

UH, WHICH IN THIS INCLUDES THE MULTIPLIER ON THE SEWER RATE.

UM, THERE'S, UH, ON THE FIXED CHARGE, UH, NO PROPOSED CHANGE TO THE FIXED CHARGE FOR THE SEWER RATE.

UM, THAT IS STILL REMAINING THE SAME.

UM, BUT ON THE VOLUMETRIC RATE, UM, NO PROPOSED CHANGE TO THE TIER ONE, BUT THE TIER TWO WOULD EXPERIENCE, UH, 28 CENT INCREASE.

AND THEN TIER THREE, UM, WE CURRENTLY DO NOT, UM, CHARGE FOR OVER 12,000 GALLONS FOR SEWER.

UM, THIS PROPOSED CHANGE WOULD, UH, INSTITUTE THAT WE START TO CHARGE FOR OVER THE 12,000 GALLONS, AND IT WOULD BE AT THE 6 36 RATE, WHICH IS, UM, THE SAME THING FROM, UH, TWO TO 10 MULTIFAMILY.

UM, SAME, NO CHANGE FOR THE, UH, TIER ONE.

AND THEN TIER TWO WOULD ALSO, UH, RECEIVE A 28 CENT INCREASE FOR THE SEWER OUTSIDE OF CITY RATES.

UM, SAME AS THE WATER HAS A, A VOLUMETRIC, UM, RATE AND IT WOULD HAVE THE MULTIPLIER.

SO THAT'S WHAT YOU ARE, ARE SEEING THERE.

UM, IF THERE'S ANY QUESTION ON THE, UH, VARIANCE ON THE, UH, SIX INCH, OUR PREVIOUS, UM, UH, CALCULATION SHOWS THAT THAT MULTIPLIER WAS, UM, NOT SHOWN CORRECTLY.

SO WE, UH, MADE THE PROPER ADJUSTMENT AND THAT'S WHY YOU SEE A, A SMALL VARIANCE ON THAT PARTICULAR LINE ITEM.

FOR THE VOLUMETRIC RATES FOR OUTSIDE THE CITY.

UM, YOU SEE, UM, FOR A SINGLE FAMILY, UH, OUTSIDE THE CITY, TIER ONE, UH, WOULD INCREASE 85 CENTS.

UM, TIER TWO WOULD BE 2 24 AND TIER THREE WOULD BE 9 54.

UH, SAME, IT WAS NO CHARGE FOR OVER THE 12,000 GALLONS.

SO THAT'S WHY YOU SEE THE, UH, LARGE VARIANCE OF THE 9 54 AND MULTIFAMILY, UH, FOR TIER ONE 85 CENTS AND TIER TWO WOULD BE 2 24.

SO THIS SLIDE HERE, UM, GIVES YOU A AN EXAMPLE OF OF WHAT WE'RE CURRENTLY AT AND WHAT THE PROJECTED, UM, INCREASE WOULD BE.

UM,

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UM, SO IT SHOWS EACH, EACH CLASSIFICATION.

SO SINGLE FAMILY WOULD REMAIN THE SAME.

UM, MULTI-FAMILY UH, WOULD REMAIN THE SAME AS WELL FOR THE 2000 AND BELOW.

UM, NON-RESIDENTIAL.

UM, INSIDE THE CITY WE'LL SEE A, A SMALL INCREASE ALONG WITH THE SINGLE FAMILY AND MULTI-FAMILY OUTSIDE OF THE CITY.

UM, THE BIGGEST INCREASE WOULD BE COMING FROM THE NON-RESIDENTIAL OUTSIDE OF CITY.

SO THE COMMERCIAL, THIS SLIDE SHOWS, UH, AN ASSUMPTION IF ONE WAS TO USE 5,000 GALLONS AND WHAT THAT BILL IMPACT WOULD LOOK LIKE, UM, FOR A SINGLE FAMILY.

UH, INSIDE CITY, UH, YOU SEE A SMALL, UM, INCREASE THERE AS WELL AS FOR MULTIFAMILY.

UM, NON-RESIDENTIAL INSIDE THE CITY, UH, WOULD ALSO RECEIVE A A, A SMALL INCREASE.

THE GREATER INCREASES COME FROM OUTSIDE CITY FOR BOTH SINGLE FAMILY MULTIFAMILY AND NON-RESIDENTIAL.

THIS SLIDE HERE COMPARES WITH OTHER CITIES.

UM, AND THIS IS WITH THE 2000 GALLON, UM, OR BELOW USAGE.

JUST TO KIND OF GIVE YOU A, UM, AN IDEA ABOUT WHERE WE ARE AND WHERE WE COMPARE.

UM, SO WE'RE SHOWING PER LAND, DEER PARK, SUGAR LAND, UM, BAY TOWN'S BOTH CURRENT AND, UH, PROPOSED AS WELL AS LEAGUE CITY AND CITY HOUSTON.

UM, SO THAT'S IN, IN CASE YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT AND, AND YOU WANT TO EXPAND, WE CAN, UH, TOUCH ON THAT SAME GOES, THIS IS FOR THE 5,000 GALLONS AND SHOWS WHAT THE INCREASE WOULD BE, UM, AND WHERE WE STACK UP IN RELATION TO THE OTHER CITIES AS WELL.

I'D BE GLAD TO ENTERTAIN ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS THAT YOU MAY HAVE.

SO I DO, UH, DO APPRECIATE THE PRESENTATION ACT.

VERY GOOD.

UM, INFORMATION, UM, I'LL MAKE A QUICK COMMENT.

CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE 5,000 GALLON MM-HMM .

THAT ONE EXACTLY THERE.

MM-HMM.

AND LEMME TELL YOU WHY.

UM, THIS HERE IS VERY, I IMPORTANT.

I THINK IT'S ACTUALLY A GREAT SLIDE.

'CAUSE WHAT I SEE A LOT OF TIMES THAT'S CONVEYED IN, IN SOCIAL MEDIA, WHATEVER MM-HMM .

IS NOT, DOESN'T PRESENT THIS.

NOW, THIS IS JUST WATER AND SEWER.

I DO AGREE.

AND THEN YOU OBVIOUSLY YOU HAVE TRASH AND OTHER THINGS, BUT WHEN IT COMES TO CITIZENS OF BAYTOWN THAT PROBABLY THE AVERAGE USER IS PROBABLY ABOUT 5,000 GALLONS.

WHEN YOU GET A BILL, THIS IS WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT COMPARED TO, I WOULD, I WOULD SAY NEIGHBORING CITIES AND OR, YOU KNOW, COMPARABLE CITIES AND, UM, OPERATING A WATER AND SEWER PLANT AND, AND THE ENTIRE ENTERPRISE ITSELF.

IT'S NOT CHEAP, THERE'S NO DOUBT.

BUT, BUT THIS HERE KIND OF SHOWS WHERE, WHERE WE ARE WHEN, WHEN COMPARED.

AND IT'S IMPORTANT BECAUSE I THINK THERE'S A, A HIGH MISUNDERSTANDING, UH, OF A LOT OF CITIZENS.

UNTIL YOU, THIS IS THE DATA AND I HAVE CONFIDENCE THAT THIS DATA IS ACCURATE AND IS TRUTHFUL AND IS TRANSPARENT AND THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT.

SO I DO APPRECIATE THAT.

YES, THANK YOU.

QUESTION? YES MA'AM, SINCE WE'RE ON THIS SLIDE.

UM, DOES LAKE CITY GET THEIR WATER FROM CITY OF HOUSTON? UH, THEY DO GET THEIR WATER FROM CITY OF HOUSTON, BUT THEY'RE PURCHASING, FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, UM, AS A, UH, A RETAIL.

UH, BUT THEY ALSO HAVE WELLS, UM, I BELIEVE AS WELL.

SO THAT'S LIKELY WHY YOU'RE SEEING A, A LOT LOWER NUMBER.

UM, FOR, FOR THEM AS COMPARED TO THE OTHER ONES.

THE ONES ON THE, ON THE, UM, FRONT END DEER PARK, HOUSTON, UH, PEARL LAND, ALL OF THEM HAVE, UH, SURFACE WATER FACILITIES.

UH, SUGAR LAND DOES AS WELL, BUT THEY'RE STILL HEAVILY RELYING UPON, UH, THEIR WELL SYSTEM.

AND, UM, THE INCREASES WE JUST WENT THROUGH, THEY'RE ALL, UM, USAGE INCREASES.

NONE OF THEM WERE FIXED.

FIXED THE FIXED RATE, RIGHT? YES.

THE FIXED RATE REMAINED THE SAME FOR INSIDE CITY.

INSIDE CITY ONLY.

WHAT ABOUT OUTSIDE? OUTSIDE CITY? IT WENT TO 1.5.

IT, IT WAS ALREADY AT 1.5 FOR THE FIXED, I'M SORRY.

UM, THE VOLUMETRIC WAS, WAS NOT, IT WAS AT 1.2 AND SO NOW THEY BOTH WILL BE AT 1.5.

OF THAT, UM, I REALLY APPRECIATE AND, YOU KNOW, FEEL LIKE THAT'S A REALLY GREAT SERVICE.

FOR OUTSIDE THE CITY, I THINK IT'S IMP AN IMPORTANT DISTINCTION BECAUSE THE USAGE COMES FROM THE CITY OF HOUSTON WHO IS OUR ONLY WATER SUPPLIER.

AND SO IF THEY RAISE RATES, I CAN UNDERSTAND WHY, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO RAISE RATES AS WELL.

AND THE FACT THAT WE AS A CITY HAS BEEN SUBSIDIZING THAT RATE INCREASE FOR SO MANY YEARS FOR OUR CITIZENS IS, UH, SOMETHING I WAS UNAWARE

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THE GOVERNMENT IS PROVIDING ITS CITIZENS.

THE FIXED RATE IS SOMETHING THAT I'D LIKE TO, UM, CONTINUE TO MONITOR AND WORK ON, MAYBE AS A COUNCIL IN THE FUTURE, NOT SOMETHING DEFINITELY TO TACKLE IN THIS BUDGET.

BUT THE FIXED RATE IS DEFINITELY OURS.

THAT IS MAINTAINING OUR INFRASTRUCTURE, UM, REPLACING AND REPAIRING OUR AGING INFRASTRUCTURE IN OTHER AREAS OF TOWN.

SO THAT'S WHERE I THINK US AS A BODY CAN REALLY, UM, DO SOME, DO SOME WORK THERE IN THE FUTURE.

BUT I THINK, UH, THIS PROPOSAL, I REALLY LIKE IT COMPARED TO THE, THE PREVIOUS ONE THAT WE GOT.

AND I APPRECIATE ALL THE EFFORTS THAT STAFF PUT IN TO ACCOMMODATE OUR WISHES.

AND AGAIN, I REALLY APPRECIATE THE CONTINUED SUBSIDIZATION OF THE INCREASED RATES THAT THE CITY OF HOUSTON IMPLY, UH, PUTS ON US, UM, SO THAT OUR CITIZENS DON'T SEE THAT INCREASE.

VERY, VERY GOOD COMMENTS.

AND, AND, UH, ONE THING I ADD TO THAT, UH, AGREE WHOLEHEARTEDLY WITH WHAT YOU SAID IS, YOU KNOW, I I THINK FOR MANY YEARS WE DID ABSORB AND SUBSIDIZE INCREASES.

UM, NEVER HAVE WE SEEN THAT LARGE OF, OF SOME, AND, AND NOT JUST THE CITY OF HOUSTON, BUT THAT'S THE RAW WATER THAT WE, THAT WE DO PURCHASE FROM THEM.

UM, BUT THIS CHEMICALS IN GENERAL, UM, THE COST OF THAT, JUST, JUST LIKE ANY OTHER SUPPLY CHAIN, IT SEEMS LIKE, UM, THERE COMES A POINT WHERE, WHERE YOU CAN NO LONGER SUBSIDIZE THAT.

NEVER DO WE WANNA RAISE RATES.

I DO, I DO BELIEVE THAT THEY'RE PRETTY MUCH ALIZE AS MUCH AS WE CAN.

I THINK THEY'RE REASONABLE AND FAIR.

UM, BUT UNFORTUNATELY IT JUST SOMETIMES COSTS ARE, ARE, ARE, UM, AGAIN, IMPLEMENTED ON, UH, TO US THAT, THAT WE CAN'T AVOID.

UM, AND, AND IT'S GOOD TO SEE THAT WE, COMPARED TO OTHER CITIES, PARTICULARLY PER LAND LAKE CITY, SUGAR LAND, DEER PARK, UM, THAT WE ARE, WE'RE PRETTY MUCH IN THE MEDIAN, UH, WHEN IT COMES TO WHAT, WHAT ARE THOSE RATES? UM, AND A LOT OF CITIZENS, UH, WHEN YOU BREAK IT DOWN LIKE THIS, THIS IS PRETTY SIMPLE.

UM, THEY CAN UNDERSTAND THAT THESE, THESE ARE REASONABLE AND FAIR AND THAT MAYTOWN IS NOT, WE'RE NOT, YOU KNOW, ON EITHER END.

UH, AND SO THAT'S, THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT.

'CAUSE IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT BELIEVED TO BE THAT WAY, AND IT'S CERTAINLY NOT PERCEIVED TO BE THAT WAY.

SO, YES, SIR.

QUICK COMMENT.

SO I JUST, I AGREE WITH THE COMMENTS AND VERY QUICKLY, UH, I THINK STAFF HAS BEEN VERY DILIGENT AND, AND COUNCIL'S BEEN VERY DILIGENT.

YOU KNOW, WE, WE'VE ENGAGED IN A, IN A STUDY AND WE'VE HAD MULTIPLE DISCUSSIONS.

SO, UH, CLEARLY THERE'S BEEN, UH, LOTS OF TRANSPARENCY AND, AND YOU KNOW, WE, WE'VE DISCUSSED AND DEBATED AND, AND THE PROCESS, UH, HAS WORKED AND, AND I COMMEND COMMEND STAFF FOR THE, FOR, FOR COMING BACK TO US WITH THIS.

YEAH, I'LL JUST CHECK ON WHAT WAS SAID.

I'M VERY HAPPY TO SEE THE CHANGES THAT WERE MADE FROM THE LAST PRESENTATION.

UM, SO THANK YOU.

I THINK LA ANYBODY ELSE LAST TIME? NO OTHER DIFFERENT COMMENTS? NO MORE COMMENTS? YEAH.

OTHER COMMENTS? UH, I'M GLAD TO SEE THAT THE 2000 AND LESS USER WOULD PROBABLY ACCOMMODATES A MAJORITY OF OUR SENIORS AND INDIVIDUALS LIKE THAT, THAT, THAT THERE WAS ZERO INCREASE FOR THEM.

SO THAT HOPEFULLY THAT ACCOMMODATES A MAJORITY OF, OF INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE ON SOME VERY FIXED INCOME.

SO, UM, THAT'S ALSO, I DO APPRECIATE STAFF DOING THAT.

SO WITH THAT, IT WAS JUST TO RECEIVE THAT, I THINK WE GAVE ENOUGH FEEDBACK ON, ON WHAT WAS PRESENTED, SO NOT, WE'LL MOVE ON TO CONSENTED CONSENT

[9. CONSENT All Consent Agenda items listed are considered to be routine by the City Council and will be enacted by one motion. There will be no separate discussion of these items unless a Council Member requests, in which event the item will be removed from the Consent Agenda and considered in its normal sequence on the agenda.]

AGENDA.

UM, UNLESS THERE'S ANYTHING THAT NEEDS TO BE PULLED INDIVIDUALLY, I WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS A THROUGH M MOVE TO APPROVE CONSENT ITEMS NINE A THROUGH M, SECOND MOTION.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, CONSENT AGENDA AS PRESENTED, PLEASE SAY AYE.

OF ITEM 10 A CONSIDER ONE APPOINTMENT TO THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT ADVISORY COMMITTEE.

ALL THOSE OPPOSED.

WE'LL MOVE ON TO APPOINTMENTS

[a. Consider one (1) appointment to the Community Development Advisory Committee.]

MS. JACKSON.

UM, COUNCIL MEMBER HEATHER BEEN IN COURT WOULD LIKE TO NOMINATE, UM, MS. CATHERINE BROWN FOR HER DISTRICT FOUR VACANCY.

IS THIS THE SAME MS. BROWN THAT SERVED THE CITY, THE CITIZENS OF THE BAYTOWN BEFORE? NO, NO.

IT'S A NEW MRS. BROWN.

JUST WONDERING.

UH, ANY, UH, THAT IS THIS, IS THIS A DISTRICT SPECIFIC APPOINTMENT OR IT, IT, IT'S ALRIGHT.

SO WE HAVE ONE NOMINATION OF MS. BROWN.

UM, I GUESS THERE'S A MOTION.

IS THERE A SECOND? SORRY, I HAVEN'T REALLY MADE A MOTION.

OH, OKAY.

UH, I MOVE TO APPROVE APPOINTING MRS. BROWN AS THE DISTRICT FOUR APPOINTMENT FOR THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT ADVISORY COMMITTEE.

I'M ASSUMING THERE'S A SECOND NOW.

POST WE HAVE ITEM 10 B, UM, I'M GONNA HAVE TO PULL THIS UP.

ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? ALL RIGHT.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR MS. BROWN AS THE DISTRICT FOUR APPOINTMENT TO THIS COMMITTEE, PLEASE SAY, AYE.

A, THOSE

[b. Consider appointments to the Baytown Municipal Development District.]

CAN YOU TAKE B AND C TOGETHER?

[c. Consider appointments to the Baytown Hospitality Public Facilities Corporation. ]

B AND C WILL BE TOGETHER ONCE WE GET TO THAT POINT.

UM, AS YOU KNOW THAT THESE ARE PRETTY MUCH IN TANDEM.

IF YOU SERVE ON THE MDD, YOU ALSO WILL SERVE ON THE BAYTOWN HOSPITALITY PUBLIC FACILITIES CORPORATION.

UM, SO WITH THIS ITEM, UM, THERE'S, I GUESS, UM, NUMEROUS APPLICANTS.

UM, WE HAVE TWO, UH, CURRENT MEMBERS.

WE ALSO HAVE FOUR ADDITIONAL APPLICANTS.

UM, AND, AND I GUESS I'D ENTERTAIN, UM, NOMINATIONS FROM AT LEAST THIS FIELD, OR IF THERE'S ANOTHER SUGGESTION THAT YOU MAY HAVE, YOU

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CAN PLEASE NOMINATE THAT MAYOR CAN, UM, HAPPY TO MAKE NOMINATIONS.

CAN I MAKE A, IS IT ABLE TO MAKE A COMMENT BEFORE THE NOMINATION? CAN WE MOVE TO DISCUSS? YEAH.

UH, I'D ENTERTAIN A MOTION, I GUESS, UH, FOR, FOR ITEMS, UH, 10, UH, B AND C, UH, MOVE TO APPROVE THE REAPPOINTMENT OF THE CURRENT DIRECTORS ON 10 B AND C SECOND MOTION.

I, YEAH, AND MY, MY, WELL THAT'S NOT WHAT I WAS ASKING FOR, BUT, OKAY.

SO I GUESS JUST A COMMENT.

SO I HAD A COMMENT LAST TIME.

IT WAS GREAT TO SEE SO MANY NEW APPLICANTS AND IT WAS, I ACTUALLY HAD A, UM, A, A DISTRICT TWO CONSTITUENTS SUBMIT AN APPLICATION AND ALWAYS, YOU KNOW, I'VE MADE A POINT TO, TO TRY TO GET SOME NEW FOLKS INVOLVED, SO I VISITED WITH HER.

AND IN FAIRNESS, I ALSO VISITED WITH THE, THE CURRENT, UM, DIRECTORS.

AND I, I'VE ACTUALLY HAD SOMEWHAT OF A CHANGE OF HEART.

UM, I, I HAD ORIGINALLY THOUGHT I, I MAY, UM, KIND OF, UH, I GUESS TRY TO GET A NEW DISTRICT TWO PERSON INVOLVED, BUT I'VE HAD EXTENSIVE CONVERSATIONS WITH THE TWO DIRECTORS.

UH, ONE IS STILL FAIRLY NEW.

UM, THE OTHER ONE IS A, A SEASONED VETERAN, SO TO SPEAK, UH, MS. MARY AND, AND I, I REALLY, UH, HAD A HEARTFELT CONVERSATION WITH, WITH MS. HERNANDEZ.

IT, IT MEANS A LOT TO HER AND, AND SHE, SHE BATTLED A, A VERY SERIOUS ILLNESS, UM, NOT TOO LONG AGO.

AND WE'RE ALL HAPPY TO, TO SEE HER CONQUER THAT.

UM, AND I GUESS OUT OF RESPECT FOR HER AND, AND HER LONG SERVICE, YOU KNOW, I, I WOULD, I WOULD ASK FOR ANOTHER TERM, UM, FOR, FOR HER AND, AND THE NEW, THE NEWER DIRECTOR, UM, AS WELL.

AND, UH, LIKE I SAY, IT WAS, I, I DELIBERATED, BUT I, I REALLY THINK IT'S IN THE BEST INTEREST OF, OF THE MUNICIPAL DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT TO, TO LET MR. MS. HERNANDEZ KIND OF GO OUT ON HER OWN TERMS, SO TO SPEAK, IS WHAT SHE WISHES TO DO.

AND SHE DOES WISH TO SERVE ANOTHER TERM AND THE PASSION IS STILL THERE, UM, AS IT IS WITH, WITH SUGE AS WELL, EVEN THOUGH SHE'S VERY SHY AND I'VE, I'VE, I'VE, UH, IMPLORED HER TO, TO NOT BE SO SHY AND TO SPEAK UP BECAUSE IN VISITING WITH HER, IT WAS APPARENT TO ME THAT SHE DOES HAVE A LOT TO OFFER.

AND, AND WE WOULD ALL REALLY LIKE TO HEAR MORE OF THAT.

I, I THINK SHE WILL DO THAT IN THE FUTURE.

SO THAT'S MY ONLY COMMENTS, MAYOR, AND I APPRECIATE YOU ENTERTAINING THEM.

SO THE MOTION IS TO, UH, REAPPOINT THE CURRENT MEMBERS.

AND THERE'S A SECOND.

I DO DISAGREE WITH THE MOTION.

UM, AND IT'S NOT PERSONAL.

I DO APPRECIATE THE SERVICE OF THE TWO INDIVIDUALS WHO HAVE BEEN ON MDD, UH, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOME, UH, NEW CITIZENS BROUGHT ON MDD.

I THINK THAT MDD IS VERY HEAVY HANDED WITH ELECTED OFFICIALS.

WE ONLY HAVE FOUR SEATS ON THAT BOARD THAT BELONG TO CITIZENS.

AND SO THOSE FOUR SEATS ARE INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT CONSIDERING THE DECISIONS THAT MDD MAKES.

UM, IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT THOSE FOUR, UH, CITIZENS ARE VOCAL AND ENGAGED AND REALLY CONTRIBUTE TO THE DEBATE AND THE CONVERSATIONS THAT WE HAVE ON MDD.

IN THE FIVE YEARS THAT I'VE BEEN ON CITY COUNCIL, I REALLY DON'T RECALL, UM, THESE TWO INDIVIDUALS HAVING MUCH TO CONTRIBUTE, UH, AT THE MDD MEETINGS ON ANY OF THE DISCUSSIONS.

AND, UM, AS FAR AS THE FOUR INDIVIDUALS GO, UM, I DON'T REALLY RECALL ANY OF THEM DEBATING OR EVER EVEN DISAGREEING WITH CITY COUNCIL.

AND I THINK IT'S, UH, EXTREMELY IMPORTANT THAT THOSE CITIZEN SEATS, UH, DO THAT, UH, FOR US TO HAVE A GOOD DEBATE AND GOOD DIALOGUE ON MDD.

SO I DON'T AGREE WITH THE CURRENT MOTION.

ONCE, THESE ARE TWO YEAR APPOINTMENTS.

UM, MAYOR, I HAVE A COMMENT.

WELL, I, I JUST WANT TO KIND OF, ONE THING I WANTED TO DO WAS OPEN UP TO NOMINATIONS.

SO THAT'S ALL THAT I THOUGHT THAT MOTION WAS GONNA BE JUST FOR DISCUSSION OF THIS ITEM, AND THEN WE'D GO INTO NOMINATIONS.

WELL, I THOUGHT I DID BOTH, BUT I MEAN, I CAN REPHRASE OR WELL, UM, YOU KNOW, THERE'S, THERE'S, THERE'S FOUR OTHER PEOPLE APPLICANTS I'D LIKE, I'D LIKE THEM TO BE CONSIDERED TOO.

AND SO, UM, BUT WHAT, JUST MA'AM, WHAT'S YOUR COMMENT? WELL, JUST MY COMMENT, UM, I HAD ORIGINALLY APPOINTED, UH, MS. SUHA RIOS AS SHE WAS CURRENTLY IN MY DISTRICT, AND I KNOW IT WAS AN AT LARGE POSITION, BUT I DID REACH OUT TO HER AND, AND, UH, TO SERVE.

I DID HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK WITH HER.

AND THEN I ALSO ENGAGED CONVERSATIONS WITH, UH, COUNCILMAN PRESLEY BECAUSE SINCE MY FIRST APPOINTMENT OF HER, SHE HAS MOVED INTO HIS DISTRICT.

AND SO I WANTED TO BE RESPECTFUL OF LIKE, LOOK, I WOULD LIKE FOR HER TO CONTINUE, BUT, UM, SHE IS NOW IN YOUR DISTRICT.

SO, UM, I WILL LEAVE IT UP TO YOU.

BUT, UM, I DO SUPPORT HER REAPPOINTMENT.

THIS WOULD BE HER SECOND TERM.

SHE'S ONLY SERVED

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UM, AND SO THIS WOULD, UH, BE HER SECOND TERM.

AND WE DID ALSO, UH, DISCUSS HER ENGAGEMENT, UM, IN FUTURE MEETINGS AND TO ENSURE THAT SHE, UM, COMMUNICATES CLEARLY TO OUR CITY CLERK'S OFFICE FOR ANY QUESTIONS LEADING UP TO, UM, ANY MDD MEETINGS OR, OR SPECIAL MEETINGS THAT WE, THAT WE HOLD.

UM, SO THAT, THAT'S ALL I WANTED TO SAY.

I DO SUPPORT, UM, THE NOMINATIONS THAT ARE AT, YOU KNOW, ON HAND RIGHT NOW.

WELL, AGAIN, I, I WANTED TO BE FAIR TO THE OTHER CITIZENS THAT APPLIED, BUT AGREE.

THE, THE MOTION, THAT'S WHAT I WAS, THAT'S THE MOTION I WAS SEEKING.

UM, AND I AGREE WITH WHAT, WHAT Y'ALL SAID, UM, A FEW THINGS.

I MEAN, YOU MENTIONED DISTRICTS ONE AND TWO, AND I UNDERSTAND THAT THESE ARE AT LARGE APPOINTMENTS, SO THESE APPOINTMENTS ARE OPEN TO THE ENTIRE COUNCIL ITSELF, SO UNDERSTOOD.

THEY ARE.

SO, YEAH.

SO, BUT WE DO HAVE A MOTION, AS MS. BEEN COURT MENTIONED THAT THERE'S A MOTION ON THE TABLE FOR THOSE TWO.

CORRECT.

SO WE COULD EITHER, YOU CAN AMENDMENT TO, TO SEE IF THERE'S ANY OTHER NOMINATIONS.

NO, I FEEL STRONGLY, AND I'M, I'M NOT GONNA AMEND MY MOTION.

UH, IT'S, IT'S THE MOTION AND THE NOMINATIONS ARE ONE AND THE SAME.

UM, I'M, UH, LIKE I SAY, I'VE, I'VE, I TYPICALLY DON'T HAVE NUMEROUS CONVERSATIONS WITH FOLKS THAT APPLY.

I DID IN THIS CASE.

AND I, I HAD JUST LENGTHY CONVERSATIONS WITH ALL THREE, AND I TRULY, TRULY BELIEVE THIS, THIS WOULD BE IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE MDD OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS.

AND, YOU KNOW, I, I GUESS IN FAIRNESS, YOU KNOW, TO, TO BE A CITIZEN AND TO SIT ON THIS DAUS WITH ALL ELECTED OFFICIALS, YOU KNOW, IT, IT CAN BE A LITTLE INTIMIDATING.

I'VE BEEN THERE BEFORE.

AND, UH, SO, YOU KNOW, IT, IT TAKES A WHILE, EVEN, EVEN AS AN ELECTED OFFICIAL MM-HMM .

IT, IT, IT TAKES A WHILE TO KIND OF GET YOUR LEGS UNDER AND BE COMFORTABLE.

AND, AND CLEARLY I'M VERY COMFORTABLE NOW, BUT, UH, , BUT IT, IT TAKES A WHILE.

SO, YOU KNOW, I DON'T, YEAH, I AGREE.

I DON'T HOLD IT AGAINST ANYONE FOR, FOR, YOU KNOW, NOT BEING SO VOCAL.

AND, UH, LIKE I SAY, I, I, I, I DON'T TAKE THIS LIGHTLY.

I HAD LENGTHY CONVERSATIONS WITH ALL THREE, AND, UH, I, I STAND BY THE, THE MOTION SLASH NOMINATION.

SO WE DO HAVE A, A, A MOTION ON THE TABLE.

UM, ONLY ADDITIONAL COMMENT I HAVE.

AND, AND THAT'S SOMETHING I'M TRYING TO PRACTICE.

UH, IT'S NOT ANYTHING TO DO WITH PERFORMANCE, UH, OF ANY INDIVIDUAL.

UM, BUT JUST TRYING TO GO AND, AND LOOK AT PEOPLE WHO HAVE SERVED FOR NUMEROUS, NUMEROUS YEARS, SOMETIMES 20 PLUS YEARS IN SOME CASES, AND, AND JUST, UM, TRYING TO BRING, YOU KNOW, FRESH THOUGHT, FRESH, FRESH THOUGHTS, UH, AND IDEAS, UM, IN A SENSE.

BUT, BUT WITH THAT, THERE IS A MOTION.

SO WE WILL, UNLESS THERE'S ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ON THAT, UH, SO WE'LL VOTE, UH, ON THE, THE SLATE, WHICH IS MS. HERNANDEZ AND MS. UH, RIO ALVAREZ.

SO ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE.

ALL THOSE OPPOSED NAY.

AND, AND I WILL ALSO BE A NAY.

UM, AND SO WITH THAT, WE'LL MOVE ON.

UH, BUT WE DO APPRECIATE THEIR SERVICE TO OUR CITY.

UM, UH, WITH THAT, I WOULD ASK THAT, UH, MS. WINFREY, UH, AND ALSO IT LOOKS LIKE MS, UH, HAW.

YES, CORRECT.

UH, MS. UCK AND MS. CAROL BRODY, UM, YOU KNOW, CERTAINLY WE HOPE THAT WE CAN, UH, TAKE YOUR SKILLSET AND TALENTS AND, AND CERTAINLY, UH, TRY TO GO AND, AND, UM, GIVE THE, GET SOME OF THESE INDIVIDUALS IF THEY FIT, UH, A COMMITTEE, GET 'EM INVOLVED.

MM-HMM.

AND CERTAINLY I'M, I'M, I CERTAINLY APPRECIATE THEM FOR SUBMITTING THEIR APPLICATIONS.

SIR, WE NEED TO, WE ALSO TO THE THREE COUNCIL.

OH, YES.

THREE, THREE OF US SITTING UP HERE.

UNLESS WE WANNA TRADE OUT? NO, NO.

SO THE MOTION WAS FOR THOSE TWO.

SO LET'S GO AHEAD AND MAKE A MOTION FOR THE OTHER THREE.

UH, THE OTHER THREE COUNCIL MEMBERS, WHICH IS DISTRICT FOUR, FIVE, AND SIX.

UM, AND SOUGHT, I GUESS, ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR THAT, THOSE SLATE OF INDIVIDUALS.

MOTION PROOF.

MOTION SECOND.

CAN I ASK A QUESTION, MICHAEL? UM, SURE.

UM, IS IT REQUIRED FOR CITY COUNCIL TO SIT ON MDD? NO, IT IS NOT REQUIRED.

UNDER, UNDER THE STATUTE, THEN I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT I REMOVE MYSELF FROM MDD AND APPOINT ONE OF THE CITIZENS INSTEAD.

UH, LEGAL'S COMFORTABLE WITH THAT? YES, THAT'S PERFECTLY FINE.

I WOULD LIKE TO, UH, ADVISE COUNSEL THAT YOU WOULD HAVE TO TAKE A VOTE.

AND UNDER THE STATUTORY LANGUAGE, THE VOTE WOULD BE TO REMOVE A MEMBER.

BUT OF COURSE, IN THIS CASE, YOU'D ACTUALLY BE ACCEPTING RESIGNATION.

SO IF, IF WE DO THAT, WE WOULD ACCEPT THAT.

AND THEN COULD WE ALSO MAKE ANOTHER MOTION FOR THAT VACANCY? YES.

YOU WOULD VOTE TO REMOVE THE CURRENT MEMBER AND THEN A SECOND VOTE TO, UH, ON, ON THE CURRENT NOMINATION.

SO I'LL MAKE A MOTION.

WELL UNDERSTAND, BUT RIGHT NOW, I THINK THE MOTION WAS FOR THESE THREE.

I'M SORRY, MR. MAYOR, YOU'RE CORRECT.

SO THERE'S A MOTION TO SECOND.

SO WE HAVE TO AMEND THAT.

OH,

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UH, WE WOULD HAVE TO HAVE AN AMENDED MOTION FIRST TO, UH, REAPPOINT TWO OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS A SECOND MOTION TO ACCEPT THE REMOVAL OF THE CURRENT MEMBER, AND A THIRD MOTION TO APPOINT SOMEONE ELSE.

SO FIRST, LET'S MAKE THE AMENDMENT, I GUESS, TO ONLY INCLUDE DISTRICTS FIVE AND SIX.

SO I NEED, I WILL AMEND MY MOTION TO INCLUDE ONLY DISTRICTS FIVE AND SIX, SECOND AMENDMENT SECOND.

SO WE WOULD APPROVE, FIRST WE HAVE TO PROVE THAT AMENDMENT.

SO, UH, UNLESS THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS, IF NOT, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE AMENDED MOTIONS OF ONLY DISTRICT FIVE AND SIX BEING APPOINTED, PLEASE SAY AYE.

ALL THOSE OPPOSED.

NEXT, YOU SAID WE WILL HAVE TO VOTE ON, UM, I GUESS ACCEPTING A RESIGNATION OF DISTRICT FOUR.

SO I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO RESIGN MY SEAT AS THE DISTRICT FOR REPRESENTATIVE ON MDD AND, AND TO REMOVE YOURSELF FROM THAT SEAT AND TO REMOVE MYSELF FROM THAT SEAT.

AND I NOMINATE DONNA, WHEN, UH, DO WE HAVE TO DO SEPARATE? SEPARATE.

AS SEPARATE.

WE SHOULD DO THAT ONE AS A SEPARATE.

SEPARATE.

SO THAT'S MY MOTION TO REMOVE MYSELF FROM MD.

REMOVE HERSELF FROM MOTION.

I JUST HAVE A, HOLD ON, HOLD ON.

WE HAVE, WE HAVE A MOTION, WE NEED A SECOND.

AND, AND YOU NEED TO INCLUDE TO REMOVE YOURSELF FROM C AS WELL.

FROM C AS WELL.

BUT WE NEED A SECOND.

YOU HAVE A MOTION? SO IS THERE A SECOND? IS THERE A SECOND? IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND THAT MOTION.

SO, UH, THERE'S A MOTION ON THE TABLE TO, FOR REMOVAL OF DISTRICT FOUR TO RESIGN THEIR SEAT TO MDD.

UH, AND ALSO THE MOTION WOULD BE RES RESIGNING, I'M ASSUMING, FROM THE, UH, ASSOCIATED, UH, BAYTOWN HOSPITALITY, UH, PUBLIC FACILITIES CORPORATION.

SO, UH, MOTION ON THE TABLE.

ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? I HAVE A GO AHEAD.

YES, I JUST HAVE A QUESTION 'CAUSE I'M READING THE, THE, YOU KNOW, THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE THAT WE HAVE FOR THE MDD AND IT STATES THAT IT'S COMPOSED OF MAYOR COUNCIL MEMBERS AND FOR RESIDENTS OF THE CITY APPOINTED AT LARGE.

SO DO WE, I MEAN, ARE WE NOT COMPLYING WITH THAT? THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING.

COUNCIL MEMBER, I BELIEVE THE STATUTORY LANGUAGE IS PERMISSIVE.

IT SAYS THAT COUNCIL MEMBERS MAY SERVE, UH, NOT THAT THEY MUST SERVE.

AND, AND, AND MAYOR, YES, SIR.

I'M GONNA FOLLOW UP THE QUESTION.

I WOULD HATE TO LOSE A MEMBER OF COUNCIL OFF, OFF OF THIS BOARD.

ARE WE LIMITED TO ONLY FOUR RESIDENTS? SO, COULD WE INCREASE THE SIZE OF MDD? PROBABLY WOULD'VE TO, I, I DON'T, I'M NOT AWARE OF ANYTHING THAT LIMITS US TO THAT COUNCIL MEMBER.

IF YOU JUST GIVE ME A MINUTE TO PULL UP THE STATUTORY LANGUAGE, I CAN ANSWER YOUR QUESTION.

I, AND, AND THIS JUST A COMMENT, I WOULD PREFER THAT WE LOOK AT, 'CAUSE AGAIN, YOU KNOW, FOUR AGAINST SEVEN, I, I WOULD PREFER TO POTENTIALLY ADD ANOTHER CITIZEN THAN TO LOSE A COUNCIL MEMBER JUST FROM EXPERIENCE AND EXPOSURE, IF THAT'S POSSIBLE.

I MEAN, I THINK YOU COULD GO EITHER WAY.

YOU COULD PRODUCE THE NUMBER OF ELECTED OFFICIALS AND ADD MORE CITIZENS.

TRUE.

I THINK THE GENESIS OF WHERE I'M COMING FROM IS, I THINK MDD WOULD BE BETTER SERVED WITH MORE CITIZEN INPUT AND LESS ELECTED OFFICIAL INPUT WITH KEEPING IN MIND THAT CITY COUNCIL IS ALWAYS THE BACKSTOP TO ANYTHING THAT MDD DOES.

SO IF THERE WAS NOT FOUR OF US ON MDD, FOR EXAMPLE, ANYTHING MDD APPROVED WOULD HAVE TO COME TO CITY COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL.

SO IT'S NOT LIKE WE'RE TAKING OUR POWER AND AUTHORITY AWAY FROM US.

BUT I DO HAVE TO WONDER OF THE DECISIONS WE'VE MADE ON CITY COUN, I MEAN ON, UH, MDD AND, UH, THE FUNDINGS THAT WE'VE USED FOR THE CERTAIN PROJECTS, I DO WONDER WOULD THEY HAVE BEEN DIFFERENT, HAD THERE BEEN MORE CITIZEN INPUT ON THOSE ITEMS AND NOT JUST COUNCIL.

AND SO I'M ALWAYS INTERESTED IN HAVING MORE OF THAT INPUT FROM OUR CITIZENS.

AND THEN OF COURSE, THE FINAL VOTE ENDS WITH CITY COUNCIL.

SO THAT'S REALLY WHERE I'M COMING FROM WITH GETTING MORE CITIZENS ON CITY, UH, ON MDD.

AND SO, UM, IT IS, UH, MY SEAT.

I'M NOT SURE WHY EVERYONE FEELS SO COMFORTABLE AND UNCOMFORTABLE WITH ME NOT SERVING ON IT.

UM, I DO WOULD LIKE TO HEAR WHY, YOU KNOW, YOU MAY NOT WANT TO VOTE FOR IT SO I CAN GET A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF THAT.

AND, AND I'LL, I'LL JUMP IN INFORMATION.

EVEN A CITIZEN ON THIS BOARD.

IS, IS, WE ARE PRIVY TO A LOT MORE INFORMATION THAN THE AVERAGE CITIZEN,

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SO YOU DO HAVE INPUT.

AND AS WAS ARTICULATED, WE ALSO ARE A LOT MORE COMFORTABLE UP BEHIND THIS DIOCESE THAN THE AVERAGE CITIZEN.

EVEN SOME THAT, THAT HAVE, ARE VERY SOCIAL OR HAVE POSITIONS OF OF AUTHORITY, THEY'RE, THEY'RE FAIRLY QUIET AS WELL.

SO I WOULD HATE TO LOSE A STRONG VOICE, IF YOU WILL, ON ISSUES.

I WOULD RATHER ADD SOME ADDITIONAL VOICES THAN LOSE A STRONG VOICE.

AND THAT, THAT'S MY POSITION ON THAT.

UM, AND I, I APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENT THAT IT IS YOUR POSITION.

YOU CAN MAKE THAT DECISION.

I WOULD JUST HATE TO LOSE THAT INPUT.

UM, THAT THAT'S WHY.

YES, YES, SIR.

SPEAKING ON CITIZEN INPUT, CITIZENS HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME SPEAK AT MDD MEETINGS.

AM I CORRECT? TRUE.

AND IF THEY'RE NOT COMING TO SPEAK AT MDD MEN, MDD MEETINGS, THAT'S THEIR OPPORTUNITY.

I SIT UP HERE AND I LISTEN AND I KNOW EVERYONE SITS UP HERE AND LISTEN.

THE SIX YEARS, SIX AND A HALF YEARS I'VE BEEN ON COUNCIL, I'VE HEARD INPUT FROM THE CITIZENS THAT VOLUNTEERED THEIR TIME TO BE HERE.

DURING THOSE MEETINGS.

THEY MAY NOT SAY MUCH, BUT JUST BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT SAYING ANYTHING DOESN'T MEAN THEY HAVEN'T DONE THEIR HOMEWORK.

IF THEY'RE VOTING ALONG WITH US, I'M ASSUMING, AND I'VE HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH SOME KNOWING THAT THEY'VE DONE THEIR HOMEWORK AND THEY WERE AGREEING WITH THE REST OF US, I WASN'T GOING TO SECOND THAT MOTION FOR THIS REASON.

I HAD THE SAME QUESTION AS JACOB.

'CAUSE FROM HOW I READ IT, I THOUGHT IT WAS WRITTEN FOR US TO SERVE HERE, AND I DID NOT WANT TO BE PART OF A MISTAKE IN NOT FOLLOWING THE, UM, STATUTE AND HOW IT WAS WRITTEN.

AND, BUT OF COURSE, WE COULDN'T GET THE DISCUSSION GOING WITHOUT A MOTION.

THAT'S THE ONLY WAY YOU CAN DISCUSS, UM, WHAT'S WRITTEN ON THE AGENDA IS IF YOU HAVE A FIRST AND A SECOND ON THAT MOTION, THEN YOU OPEN IT UP FOR DISCUSSION.

NOW, IF YOU DECIDE YOU JUST DON'T WANT TO SERVE, NO, THAT IS ABSOLUTELY NOT IT.

NO, BUT, BUT, BUT I'M SAYING NO, IF, IF YOU DIDN'T WANT TO SERVE, I WILL SUPPORT YOU WHOLLY, BECAUSE IF YOU DON'T WANT TO BE UP HERE, THEN THAT, THAT NOT BEING THE CASE.

UNDERSTANDING WHAT YOUR QUESTION IS ABOUT CITIZEN INPUT.

CITIZENS HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE EVERY OPPORTUNITY, EVERY MAKE THEIR VOICES HEARD AT EVERY MEETING THAT WE HAVE.

THEY JUST HAVE TO MAKE UP THEIR MIND THAT THEY WANT TO COME AND SPEAK TO HAVE THEIR VOICES HEARD.

OR THEY COULD ALSO EMAIL, TEXT, CALL.

THEY COULD WRITE A LETTER, THEY COULD SEND PIGEONS.

THEY HAVE EVERY OPPORTUNITY TO COMMUNICATE WITH US TO MAKE THE VOICES BE HEARD.

IF I DIDN'T WANNA SERVE, I SIMPLY JUST WOULDN'T SHOW UP TO AN MDD MEETING.

THIS IS ABOUT HAVING MORE CITIZEN INPUT IN THE GOVERNING BODY, NOT JUST SPEAKING OUT A PODIUM AS AN MDD MEMBER, YOU GET PRIVILEGED INFORMATION IN EXECUTIVE SESSIONS.

YOU GET PRIVILEGED DISCUSSION AMONGST COUNCIL, THE CITY ATTORNEY, UM, THE CITY MANAGER AND OTHER PEOPLE THAT YOU DON'T GET JUST BY SIMPLY COMING UP AND GIVING YOUR OPINION.

WHICH LET'S FACE IT, IS U USUALLY BASED ON MISINFORMATION ON FACEBOOK AND THE BAYTOWN SUN.

SO THERE IS A, A, A BIG DIFFERENCE WITH SERVING ON THE BOARD VERSUS JUST COMING UP TO SPEAK.

IT IS NOT ABOUT ME WANTING TO SERVE.

I'M A VERY DEDICATED SERVANT.

THIS IS ALL ABOUT HAVING MORE CITIZEN INPUT ON MDD.

WELL, MAYOR, I, I WOULD AGREE WITH COUNCILMAN LESTER THEN, AND I DON'T THINK, UM, ADDING ONE GETS US TO AN EVEN NUMBER.

SO IF, IF THAT'S, YEAH.

YOU KNOW, LISTEN, I, I'M SPEAKING FOR MYSELF, BUT I I, I DON'T KNOW THAT ANYBODY'S AGAINST MORE CITIZEN INPUT GENERALLY.

THAT'S A GOOD THING.

AND SO, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW, MAYBE WE HAVE ANOTHER DISCUSSION ABOUT ADDING TWO AND, UH, IF THAT WERE THE CASE, I MEAN, I, I'M HERE TO TELL YOU, I WOULD PROBABLY WANNA RECOMMEND THAT THE DISTRICT TWO APPLICANT THAT'S NEVER SERVED ON THE CITY COMMITTEE, THAT IS TRULY NEW BLOOD.

SO MAYBE THAT WOULD BE A, A SOMEWHAT OF A COMPROMISE TO, TO LOOK AT ADDING TWO, BECAUSE I THINK WE WOULD NEED TO DO THAT ANYWAY TO GET TO AN ODD NUMBER.

WELL, WE HAVE, YES, YOU'RE RIGHT.

THEN AS WELL AS, UM, SOME OF THE OTHER QUESTIONS REGARDING ARE WE MAKING THE RIGHT DECISION IN COURT IN, IN THE CASE OF OUR STATUTE? AND SO I WOULD LIKE TO GIVE OUR CITY ATTORNEY A LITTLE TIME TO, TO KIND OF PULL THAT UP AND SEE WHERE WE ARE.

YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT'S WHAT COUNCILMAN LESTER MENTIONED, RIGHT? SO YES, MA'AM.

OH, IT WAS ME.

AND, AND MY PARTICULAR HESITANCE, UM, COUNCIL MEMBER IS JUST REALLY THE VALUE THAT YOU BRING MM-HMM .

TO THE TABLE.

UM, YOU'VE HAD A LOT OF KNOWLEDGE, ESPECIALLY WITH THE FISCAL BEING, UM, ON THAT FISCAL COMMITTEE TO BE ABLE TO LEAD US THROUGH SOME OF THOSE FINANCIAL DISCUSSIONS THAT WE'VE HAD TO DO WITH THE BUDGETING PROCESS.

AND I THINK THAT WE WOULD HONESTLY LOSE SOME OF THAT VALUE.

UM, I'M NOT SAYING THAT, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T, WE BRING SOMETHING TO THE TABLE OURSELVES, BUT WITH YOU BEING THE CHAIR OF THE FINANCE COMMITTEE, YOU HAVE THAT SECOND LENS THAT WE DON'T, UM, THAT WE DON'T HAVE.

AND SO THAT'S MY HESITANCE.

AND

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I WOULD BE IN FAVOR.

I HONESTLY HAD NOT THOUGHT OF ADDING ADDITIONAL SEATS, BUT I WOULD DEFINITELY BE IN FAVOR OF THAT.

AND, UM, THAT'S REALLY MY HESITANCE.

SO WITH, WITH THAT IN MIND, LET, SO LET ME ASK, ARE, IS IT ANOTHER, WELL, WE HAVE A MOTION, BUT THE QUESTION WOULD BE COULD WE, DOES THIS BODY TONIGHT HAVE THE ABILITY TO ADD SEATS IF THAT'S AN OPTION? OR DO WE HAVE TO COME BACK WITH RESOURCES? THAT IS AN OPTION.

I'M SORRY.

I, I WAS WONDERING, UH, YES, YOU DO HAVE THAT OPTION.

THAT WOULD BE UNDER 3 77 0.051 A.

UH, THE DISTRICT IS GOVERNED BY A BOARD OF AT LEAST FOUR.

UH, THE PARTICULAR AGENDA ITEM IS BROAD ENOUGH FOR YOU TO CREATE ADDITIONAL SEATS IF YOU SO CHOSE.

IT IS ALSO, UM, BROAD ENOUGH, UH, FOR THE COUNCILWOMAN TO RESIGN IF SHE SO CHOSE.

UM, SO YOU DO HAVE BROAD DISCRETION IN WHAT YOU DO HERE TONIGHT? YES, SIR.

I, I, I WOULD ASK THAT THE COUNCILWOMAN WITHDRAW HER MOTION MM-HMM .

AND MAKE A MOTION TO ADD TWO SEATS.

WITH THE TWO NOMINATIONS FROM THE, FROM THE LIST WE HAVE HERE, HERE, I, I WOULD HATE TO LOSE A COLLEAGUE'S COMMENTS THAT THIS DOES FOR, FOR ANY REASONS.

AND, AND JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, I GUESS MAYBE THE CITY ATTORNEY OR THE CITY MANAGER ACTUALLY AS THE BACKSTOP TO MDD CITY COUNCIL BEING THE ULTIMATE BACKSTOP.

I MEAN, WHEREVER AN INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT IS CONCERNED.

TRUE.

AND I GUESS MOST OF THE TIME THEY ARE, BUT NOT IN EVERY CASE.

BUT NOT ALWAYS THE CASE, CORRECT.

I'M SORRY, COUNCILMAN, CAN YOU REPHRASE YOUR QUESTION? I MEAN, MDD, ALTHOUGH IT'S AN INSTRUMENTALITY OF THE CITY, UM, WE'RE AN INTERLOCAL.

I, I GUESS IN THAT REGARD, WE, THERE IS AN INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT ON EVERY SINGLE MDD ITEM, CORRECT.

ON CERTAIN ITEMS. I, BUT IT'S NOT ALWAYS THE BACKSTORY.

THERE'S OTHER, THERE'S NOT ALWAYS, NOT ALWAYS TRUE BACKSTOP.

NO, THAT'S, THAT'S CORRECT.

THERE WOULDN'T BE AN ILA ON EVERY ITEM.

RIGHT? CORRECT.

UH, MAYOR, MAY I ADD SOMETHING ELSE AS WELL? AND, AND I THINK IN THE COUNCIL MEMBER'S CONCERN ABOUT MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE ADDITIONAL VOICES AND REPRESENTATION UP HERE FROM, UM, THE CITIZENS.

I KNOW IN THE PAST WE'VE DISCUSSED HAVING, UM, TERM LIMITS FOR OUR BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS.

YES, THEY ARE VOLUNTARY, BUT WE OURSELVES PUT OUR, PUT US ON A, UH, TERM LIMIT.

AND SO IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WOULD HELP US ROTATE, UM, OUR MEMBERS, I KNOW IT'S ALWAYS BEEN UP TO US.

WE HAVE TO SAY WE CAN, WE DON'T HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL SOMEONE'S TENURE ENDS.

WE CAN JUST GO AND SAY, HEY, I THINK IT'S TIME THAT MAYBE WE SWITCH YOU OUT AND SWITCH 'EM IN BETWEEN TERMS IF WE, IF WE WANT TO.

AND SO AT THIS POINT, IF IT IS GETTING HARDER AND HARDER FOR US TO APPOINT NEW MEMBERS TO ANY COMMITTEE, NOT JUST MDD, UH, PERHAPS AT A LATER TIME WE CAN DISCUSS REVIEWING, UH, SOME SORT OF TERM LIMITS FOR OUR BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS.

SO I THINK WHAT WE HAVE IN FRONT OF US, SHE HAS A, A MOTION AND A SECOND, UM, REGARDING ACCEPTANCE OF RESIGNATION.

SO WE CAN VOTE ON THAT OR SHE CAN WITHDRAW HER MOTION.

UM, SO THAT'S, THAT'S THE OPTIONS RIGHT NOW.

AND THEN A NEW MOTION CAN BE MADE MM-HMM .

FOR ALTERNATIVES TO, UM, TO THIS ITEM.

THAT'S CORRECT.

I WILL WITHDRAW MY MOTION.

I'LL MAKE A NEW MOTION TO APPOINT TWO ADDITIONAL MEMBERS, CITIZEN MEMBERS TO THE MDD BOARD.

ONE OF THOSE MEMBERS I DO NOMINATE DONNA WINFREY.

UM, SHE HAS SERVED ON OUR PNZ COMMITTEE AND SHE HAS SERVED WELL, BEEN VERY ENGAGED, VERY VOCAL.

SHE'S WILLING TO GIVE UP HER SEAT ON PNZ TO MOVE UP TO WHAT SHE CONSIDERS A PROMOTION, SO TO SPEAK, OF COMMITTEES TO MDD.

AND SO, UM, I NOMINATE ONE OF THOSE POSITIONS FOR DONNA WINFREY.

ENTERTAIN, MR. MAYOR, IF I MAY, FOR CLARITY OF THE RECORD, UH, I'M SORRY, I SHOULD PROBABLY DIRECT THIS TO, UH, COUNCILWOMAN BATTEN COURT.

UH, I WOULD RECOMMEND MAKING SEPARATE TWO SEPARATE MOTIONS.

UH, SO THAT THE RECORD IS CLEAR, FIRST MOTION IS TO ADD TWO ADDITIONAL CITIZEN BOARD MEMBERS TO THE MDD BOARD.

UH, IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND.

MOTION SECOND OF THOSE.

IN FAVOR OF, WELL, HOLD ON.

WE'RE GONNA VOTE ON THAT, OR WE HAVE TO VOTE ON HER.

RE HER, SHE WITHDREW.

SHE WITHDRAWN.

THAT.

SHOULD WE SECOND? WITHDRAWN.

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SO THE MOTION AND SECOND IS TO ADD TWO CITIZEN, UH, SEATS TO THE BAYTOWN MDD BOARD.

UM, ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS REGARDING THAT? I THINK WE DONE DISCUSSED THAT.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THAT ITEM, PLEASE SAY AYE.

ALL THOSE OPPOSED A SECOND MOTION? IS THAT ONE OF THOSE NEW SEATS? I RECOMMEND I NOMINATE DONNA WINFREY.

WOULDN'T WE HAVE TO INCLUDE BOTH OR DO WE NEED A SECOND MOTION FOR THE SECOND INDIVIDUAL? AND, AND IF WE CAN DO A SLATE? YES.

I MEAN, I, I WOULD, LIKE I SAY, I HAD A DISTRICT TWO PERSON THAT'S NEVER SERVED.

TOTALLY NEW BLOOD, NEVER SERVED ON ONE CITY COMMITTEE, AND I WOULD MAKE A PLEA FOR HER AS WELL.

THAT WOULD BE MS. SHAUNA BERNHAUSEN.

SINCE SHE'S AN APPLICANT.

SO I GUESS YOU HAVE A MOTION FOR ONE INDIVIDUAL.

YOU CAN ADD IT AND THEN YOU CAN JUST SECOND IT.

IF THAT MAKES SENSE.

DOES ANYONE HAVE A SECOND OR ANOTHER NAME TO NOMINATE? MM.

SO I'M AMEND MY MOTION TO INCLUDE DONNA WINFREY AND SHAUNA BERNHAUSEN.

MOTION TO SECOND.

ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ON THE TWO? HAVE TO COME BACK AND I WITHDREW IT.

IT DIDN'T EVER GO THROUGH.

OH YEAH.

WE NEVER, WE POINTED THE TWO.

BUT ANYWAY, WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE TABLE FOR, FOR THE TWO INDIVIDUALS, MS. WINFREY AND MS. BERNHAUSEN.

AND SO, UH, ENTERTAIN ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THOSE TWO INDIVIDUALS AS THE TWO NEW SEATS, PLEASE SAY AYE.

ALL THOSE OPPOSED? AND THEN I THINK WHAT WE SAID IS, IS, UM, I'LL MAKE A MOTION.

TO APPOINT COUNCILWOMAN BETTEN COURT TO MDD SECOND MOTION.

ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? ALTHOUGH IN FAVOR OF THAT MOTION, PLEASE SAY, AYE.

ANGELA, WE DIDN'T, YOU WE DIDN'T HAVE BNC.

IT'S OKAY.

IT'S BECAUSE Y'ALL ORIGINALLY APPOINTED, WE ONLY DID THE TWO NAMES.

TWO.

AND YOU DIDN'T DO ME.

YES, BUT WE, WE NEEDED TO DO B AND CI THE SECOND YES.

SO YOU DID SECOND THEN? YES.

IS THAT FOR BOTH B AND C? YES, BECAUSE WE, THE NOMINATIONS, I THINK WHEN WE STARTED THE, THE HO WE, WE SAID WE TAKE THEM TOGETHER.

SO I JUST WANNA KEEP IT.

YOU GOOD, LEGAL? I'M GOOD.

THE CITY CLERK? YES.

JUST, JUST FOR THE RECORD, THE CITY CLERK'S SON IS HERE TO WITNESS LOCAL GOVERNMENT TONIGHT.

SO THIS IS A VERY GOOD EXERCISE.

, HE SAYS, I WILL NEVER SERVE ON A, HE HASN'T RUN OUTTA HERE YET.

[d. Consider the confirmation of the City Manager's appointment of the Assistant City Manager.]

PENDING.

CONSIDER THE CONFIRMATION OF CITY MANAGER'S APPOINTMENT, UH, OF THE ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER.

MR. DAVIS.

THANK YOU MAYOR AND COUNSEL.

AFTER A VERY EXTENSIVE, UH, SEARCH, UH, I'M PROUD TO RECOMMEND THE NAME OF JASON REYNOLDS AS ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER.

WE HAVE WITH US, UH, JASON TODAY.

AND, UH, I'M SURE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR HIM, HE'S WILLING TO ARE YOU SURE? ANSWER THOSE.

THAT IS A WHAT, NOT A FAIR QUESTION.

UH, BUT, UH, ANYWAY, JASON'S GRACIOUSLY ACCEPTED THE OPPORTUNITY TO SERVE AS ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER AND WHOLEHEARTEDLY RECOMMEND HIM, UH, TO YOU.

SO THERE IS A, I HAVE FORWARDED HIS CREDENTIALS TO YOU EARLIER.

SO THE ACTION ITEM IS TO CONFIRM THE CITY MANAGER'S APPOINTMENT, UM, FOR ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER.

AND SO, UH, WITH THAT, I GUESS I'D HAVE TO ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

A MOTION TO APPROVE.

SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION TO SECOND.

ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? PARTY.

YOU SURE? YEP.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE, THE, UM, THE APPOINTMENT, UH, OF ITEM 10 D PLEASE SAY AYE.

WE WILL HAVE OUR MANAGER REPORT.

THOSE OPPOSED? WELCOME TO THE CITY, BAY TOWN.

[11. MANAGER'S REPORT Notice is hereby given in accordance with Section 551.0415 of the Texas Government Code, the City Council of the City of Baytown may receive a report about items of community interest from City staff and/or a member of the City Council, but no action or possible action shall be taken or discussed concerning the subject of such report, except as provided by Section 551.042 of the Texas Government Code.]

YES, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

I'M, UH, WANT TO CONGRATULATE THE FOLLOWING INDIVIDUALS WHO HAVE RECEIVED THEIR CERTIFICATIONS FOR ADVANCED STRUCTURE.

FIREFIGHTER.

THIS IS MARTIN SLIC, UH, GARY HOUSEL, T TR DAR JOSEPH SOUTH AND TAYLOR SOTAL.

SO PLEASE JOIN WITH ME AND CONGRATULATING THEM WITH THIS, UH, SIGNIFICANT ACHIEVEMENT.

VERY PROUD OF THEM.

UH, ALSO I'D LIKE TO, UH, RECOGNIZE AND CONGRATULATE, UH, BILLY FORIA, UH, WHO HAS BEEN PROMOTED TO ENGINEER AND JB HEBERT WHO HAS BEEN PROMOTED TO LIEUTENANT.

SO HAD QUITE A BIT OF A, A MOVEMENT THERE IN THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, PROUD OF ALL THEIR ACCOMPLISHMENTS.

I'M ALSO PROUD TO ANNOUNCE THAT FRANKIE LINDER HAS OFFICIALLY PASSED HER A ICP EXAM.

THOSE OF YOU DON'T KNOW THAT IS THE AMERICAN INSTITUTE OF CERTIFIED PLANNERS.

IT IS A TREMENDOUS ACHIEVEMENT, UH, FOR A PROFESSIONAL PLANNER.

MEANS THAT SHE'LL HAVE THOSE INITIALS AFTER HER NAME.

SO NEXT TIME, CONGRATULATE FRANKIE WHEN YOU SEE HER NEXT TIME.

VERY PROUD OF ALL, UH, HER CONTRIBUTIONS.

OF COURSE.

SHE'S THE ONE THAT REALLY HELPED US THROUGH THE, THE, UH, COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, UH, PROCESS.

SO THAT IS ALL I HAVE, MAYOR AND COUNCIL TIME.

THANK YOU MR. MANAGER.

SO, UH, BEING THAT, OH, EXCUSE ME.

WE HAVE A DISTRICT THREE

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PRESENTATION NOW? NO.

I GUESS WE DO NOT.

SO WITH THAT IN MIND, OH, OH, HOLD ON, HOLD ON.

WELL, WITH IT BEING NO, NO, UM, NO PRESENTATION.

THERE IS AN INDIVIDUAL THAT SIGNED UP, WOUND UP.

CAN WE MOVE TO SUSPEND? YES, YOU DO.

YEAH, BUT WE HAVE SOMEBODY TO SIGN UP.

SO THEY CAN SO HE NEEDS TO SPEAK? YES.

OH, THEY CAN'T WAIT.

BUT IF WE, WHAT IF WE MOVE TO SUSPEND? YES, BUT HE STILL SIGNED UP, SO HE STILL NEEDS SUSPEND.

I SEE.

YEP.

ALRIGHT, SO WE HAVE AN INDIVIDUAL, UH, CITIZEN THAT DID SIGN UP TO SPEAK FOR ITEM 12 A.

MR. ISAAC, I'M ASSUMING YOU'RE STILL THERE.

YES, I AM.

ALRIGHT SIR, YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL.

DAVID ISAAC, 28 12 LANDMARK DRIVE, 7 7 5 2 1.

I'D LIKE TO COMMENT THIS EVENING ON THE REPORT THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE GIVEN THIS EVENING.

UH, HOPEFULLY WE'LL GET TO HEAR IT SOME OTHER TIME.

I'VE SPENT TIME KNOCKING DOORS IN DISTRICT THREE PRECINCTS, SPECIFICALLY LIKE QUA HOLLOW AND MONT, UH, HAVE GIVEN ME THEIR SENTIMENTS ABOUT THE WELLBEING AND THE GROWTH OF DISTRICT THREE.

AND CERTAINLY IT IS NOT A DISTRICT, UH, TO HAVE A SOFT STOMACH AND WORK WITH.

THERE'S A LOT OF GROWTH TAKING PLACE.

UH, CHARLES JOHNSON HAS BEEN DEALING WITH THAT GROWTH AND, UH, JUGGLING, UH, THESE RELATIONSHIPS WITH INSTITUTIONS INCLUDING THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE ALL OVER THE CITY.

I'VE BEEN TO THE FOCUS GROUPS.

I, I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT, UH, MOST OF THE SENTIMENT FROM THIS PLACE IS, IS POSITIVE ABOUT THE LEADERSHIP HERE.

SO I WANT TO THANK CHARLES JOHNSON AND HOPEFULLY, UH, UH, WE'LL GET TO HEAR THAT SPEECH ON ANOTHER TIME.

BUT I JUST WANTED TO GIVE MY OWN PUBLIC COMMENT.

NOT A LOT OF PEOPLE FROM THE PUBLIC, UH, WILL COMMENT.

AND SO, UH, I'LL GIVE THAT TONIGHT.