* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [ CITY OF BAYTOWN NOTICE OF MEETING COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT ADVISORY COMMITTEE TUESDAY, MAY 24, 2022 5:30 P.M. HULLUM CONFERENCE ROOM, CITY HALL 2401 MARKET STREET, BAYTOWN, TEXAS 77520 AGENDA CALL TO ORDER AND ANNOUNCEMENT OF QUORUM ] [00:00:17] IN GUESS IF I, MY NAME. SO YOU, I NEED, I NOW CALL THIS MEETING TO, I, I NOW CALL THIS COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT ADVISING COMMITTEE ON TUESDAY, MAY 24TH, 2022 FOR ON, UM, ON THE AGENDA. I, UM, [a. Discuss and consider the Community Development Block Grant budget recommendation for the 2022-2023 program year.] ON THE AGENDA, ITEM ONE A IS TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT BUDGET RECOMMENDATION FOR THE 20 22 20 23 PROGRAM HERE. DO I HAVE A MOTION HOLD? NO, NO MOTION YET. WE STILL GOTTA DISCUSS IT. OH, WE STILL GOTTA DISCUSS IT, YOUR HONOR. AND THEN WE'LL DO A MOTION. WE'RE GONNA GO, UM, ITEM BY ITEM. AND, UM, FOR ONE ITEM, MS. RHONDA WILL BE RECUSING HERSELF FROM THE DISCUSSION AND SHE'S GONNA STEP OUT, UM, BECAUSE, UM, WELL, TRANSPARENCY, SHE IS ON THE BOARD OF ONE OF THESE ORGANIZATIONS. SO, UM, SHE'LL BE STEPPING OUT WHENEVER WE DO THAT ITEM. UH, I GUESS, UM, WE CAN START AT THE TOP AND WORK OUR WAY DOWN. OKAY. SO HANDS OF THE CARPENTER. UM, THAT'S, BUT BEFORE WE START, I HAVE A SORT OF A GENERAL QUESTION. OKAY. UM, I JUST WONDERED, AND LAST YEAR, MAYBE I DIDN'T, LAST YEAR WAS MY FIRST YEAR GOING THROUGH THIS AND I WAS LIKE, REALLY, REALLY NEW. RIGHT. AND I DIDN'T NOTICE, LIKE I DID THIS YEAR, LOOKING AT SOME OF THESE IN PREPARATION FOR THIS MEETING. SOME OF THESE PEOPLE HAVE QUITE A BIT OF OTHER FUNDING AND THAT'S WHAT WE'LL TALK ABOUT TONIGHT. SO, OKAY. SO WE CAN LOOK AT THE BUDGET. SO THEY SUBMIT A BUDGET TO US, RIGHT? WHICH IS THE YELLOW PAGE IN EACH APPLICATION. AND I MAKE IT A, A STANDOUT COLOR. THAT WAY YOU CAN GO RIGHT TO IT, RIGHT? SO WE CAN GO LINE BY LINE ON THESE PEOPLE'S ITEMS. WE CAN REDUCE IT OR WE CAN DECIDE NOT TO FUND THEM AT ALL. IT IS, UM, COMPLETELY UP TO Y'ALL. UM, FRANKIE AND I ARE HERE TO GIVE YOU ADVICE, TO GIVE YOU OUR THOUGHTS, OUR PERCEPTIONS, OUR UM, YEAH. UM, EXPERTISE OR WHATEVER. OKAY. SO THAT, UM, WE CAN HELP GUIDE YOU TO MAKE GOOD DECISIONS. BECAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE DON'T WANNA FUND SOMEONE THAT'S NOT GONNA COMPLY. THAT WE DON'T SPEND THE MONEY AND THEN WE DON'T MEET OUR REQUIREMENTS. 'CAUSE YOU KNOW, 70% OF OUR MONEY HAS TO BE SPENT ON LOW TO MODERATE INCOME PEOPLE OR . UM, WE HAVE TO, WE CAN'T EXCEED A 15% CAP. OKAY. SERVICES, THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS THAT WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE ADHERING TO. I GUESS. BOBBY, YOU'RE THE . BOBBY IS THE ONE. UM, AND THEN TONY, BUT BOBBY'S BEEN, BOBBY WAS ON BOARD BEFORE I EVEN CAME OVER HERE, SO, UM, SO HE UNDERSTANDS WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT. BUT THERE ARE DIFFERENT THINGS. BUT THAT'S WHY WE, I PUT IT ON THIS NICE BRIGHT YELLOW PIECE OF PAPER SO THAT YOU CAN FLIP RIGHT TO IT AND WE CAN GO LINE BY LINE IF YOU LIKE IT. IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT, IF YOU THINK IT'S TOO MUCH, IF YOU THINK MAYBE THEY NEED MORE AND SO ON AND SO FORTH. ANSWER THE CARPENTERS TAB NUMBER NINE. THANK YOU. SO THEY ARE CURRENTLY REQUESTING $7,500 AND, AND THEY HAVE RECEIVED FUNDING IN THE PAST. IN 2019, THEY RECEIVED $500, $5,000 AND ONLY SPENT 927 AND 2020. THEY RECEIVED $10,000 AND ONLY SPENT 3,700. AND IN THE CURRENT YEAR, THEY HAVE NOT SUBMITTED FOR ANY REIMBURSEMENT. SO I HAVE NO IDEA IF THEY, THEY'VE EVEN SPENT MONEY, BUT THEY DO HAVE, WHAT WAS IT, 4,020 YEAR? OH, UM, 10, 10,000. SO I HAVE WHAT HAPPENS TO, CAN I, CAN I TALK NOW? I MEAN, CAN I ASK, I MEAN IT'S NOT A QUESTION, BUT IT'S JUST A COMMENT. I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT. IF THEY'RE AWARDED 5,000, THEY ONLY SPEND 900 OR IF THEY'RE AWARDED 10,000 AND ONLY SPEND THREE, LIKE I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT. SO I WILL GIVE THEM THE BENEFIT OF THE DOUBT FOR THE 19, 20 YEAR. COVID STARTED IN MARCH OF 2020. OKAY. I MADE MYSELF A NOTE ON THAT TOO. YEAH, COVID DID START IN MARCH OF 2020. SO I CAN SEE THEM NOT BEING ABLE, 'CAUSE THIS IS DONE ON BY A VOLUNTEER. THEY GET VOLUNTEERS TO COME OUT AND DO THE WORK. OKAY. THEY'RE NOT PAYING CONTRACTORS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, RIGHT. TO THIS PROGRAM. IT'S JUST TO BUY THE BUILDING MATERIALS AND THE SUPPLIES AND THEN THEY GET VOLUNTEERS TO DO THE WORK. SO FOR THE 20 19, 20 20 YEAR I THAT YEAR, 2019, I CAN TOTALLY SEE WHY IT IS THAT THEY DIDN'T SPEND AS MUCH BECAUSE THE PANDEMIC HIT IN MARCH AND THEY HELP ELDERLY AND DISABLED PEOPLE. ELDERLY AND DISABLED PEOPLE WERE NOT LETTING PEOPLE IN THEIR HOUSE THAT THEY DIDN'T KNOW IN MARCH OF 2020 OR THROUGH SEPTEMBER. YEAH. SO THAT IS ONE. BUT IT IS A GOOD POINT THAT YOU RAISED BECAUSE IN THE NEXT YEAR THEY SPEND ALL THEIR MONEY, YOU KNOW, SO THAT IS SOMETHING FOR YOU TO CONSIDER WHENEVER YOU ARE LOOKING AT THEIR BUDGET. LIKE YOU WANT TO FUND THEM FOR THE FULL 7,500 [00:05:01] OR DO YOU WANT TO REDUCE IT? DO YOU THINK THAT THE PROGRAM HAS MERIT AND SHOULD CONTINUE TO RUN, BUT MAYBE GIVE THEM LESS MONEY BECAUSE MAYBE THEY DO BETTER WITH LESS MONEY OR, SO WHAT HAPPENED, FOR INSTANCE, IN 20 20, 21, IT WAS STILL COVID, THEY WERE AWARDED 10,000, BUT THEY ONLY SPENT 37% OF THOSE FUNDS. LIKE WHAT HAPPENED TO THE REST OF THAT? IT ROLLS OVER. SO WHENEVER WE'RE LOOKING AT OUR BUDGET UP HERE, DO YOU SEE THIS LINE OVER HERE? UNENDED FUNDS? THAT'S FROM THE PREVIOUS YEAR. AH, SO THAT ROLLS IN AND THIS IS AN ESTIMATE. THIS ISN'T AT THE ACTUAL AMOUNT. WE WON'T KNOW UNTIL THE END OF THE YEAR HOW MUCH MONEY IS LEFT OVER. AND THEN THAT USUALLY GOES RIGHT INTO OUR HOUSING BECAUSE OUR HOUSING PROGRAMS ARE USUALLY KIND OF OUR BREAD AND BUTTER. UM, THEY'RE OUR BIGGEST, ESPECIALLY NOW WITH THE COST OF CONSTRUCTION AND SUPPLIES AND EVERYTHING. I MEAN, IT'S INSANE. SO THE MONEY NEVER LEAVES YOU GUYS UNLESS THEY ASK AND INVOICE YOU GUYS OUT AND THEN WE GO FROM THERE. YES. WE DON'T GIVE THEM THE MONEY AND THEN NO, THEY HAVE TO SUBMIT RECEIPTS, INVOICES. MM-HMM. BANK STATEMENTS SHOWING ME YOUR CHECK CLEARED. I'M VERY PARTICULAR. UM, I WILL SAY NO EASILY, UM, IT'S, IT'S NOT MY MONEY, SO I'M NOT GONNA SPEND IT WRONG. YOU KNOW, I HAVE TO BE A GOOD STEWARD. SO, UM, SO NO, IT'S NOT LIKE WE GAVE THEM A MONEY AND THEN THEY HELD ONTO IT. NO, THEY ARE AWARDED THIS, BUT THEY DON'T JUST, IT'S ALL DONE ON REIMBURSEMENT. RIGHT? SO THE MONEY GOES BACK INTO THE POT FOR THE UPCOMING YEAR AND SOMETHING TO CONSIDER FOR THE CURRENT YEAR AS WELL. THEY'RE NOT REQUIRED TO SPEND ALL THE MONEY UNTIL, UH, THE END OF THE FISCAL YEAR, WHICH IS EPTEMBER. SO EVEN THOUGH THEY HAVEN'T SPENT ANY NOW, UM, THEY MIGHT NOT HAVE TURNED IN THEIR RECEIPTS. LIKE SHARON SAID, SHE DOESN'T KNOW HOW MUCH THEY'VE SPENT BECAUSE THEY HAVEN'T, HAVEN'T REQUESTED THAT REIMBURSEMENT YET. SO PEOPLE LIKE APRIL WAIT UNTIL THE END. THEY HAVEN'T STEPPED IN, HADN'T ASKED FOR REIMBURSEMENT YET. CORRECT. SO THAT'S SOMETHING SHARON AND I WERE TALKING ABOUT TODAY. AN ISSUE WE HAVE IS OFTENTIMES, UM, THE WAIT OF SEPTEMBER AND THEN THE REQUEST OR WHATEVER PORTION, IT'S CAN YOU CHANGE THAT? WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THAT. UH, WE'RE GONNA MAKE THAT A REQUIREMENT TO DO SOMETHING QUARTERLY AT LEAST BECAUSE IT'S HARD ON THE PERSON WHO HAS TO PROCESS ALL OF THOSE REIMBURSEMENT REQUESTS RIGHT. WHEN YOU GET HIT WITH THEM ALL AT THE SAME TIME. RIGHT. IT WILL GIVE Y'ALL BETTER INFORMATION FOR NEXT YEAR WHEN YOU'RE SELECTING SUB RECIPIENTS. NOW, MIND YOU, UM, THIS YEAR FOR THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE, HAVE CURRENTLY HAVE FUNDS, I DID LET THEM KNOW THAT I DO PROVIDE Y'ALL WITH THE INFORMATION ON HOW THEY'VE SPENT THEIR MONEY MM-HMM . AND IT WOULD LOOK BETTER FOR THEM IF THEY WERE TO SUBMIT REIMBURSEMENT REQUESTS BEFORE I MAKE THIS HANDY DANDY BOOK FOR YOU. THAT WAY IT'LL ACTUALLY LOOK LIKE THEY'RE DOING SOMETHING, BUT I DIDN'T GET ANYTHING, SO. RIGHT. BECAUSE IT KIND OF LOOKS LIKE THEY'RE NOT DOING ANYTHING. RIGHT. AND THEN WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE WAY THEY'VE SPENT IN THE PAST ALSO, RIGHT? YEAH. MY ONLY CONCERN IS WHATEVER COST THEM $3,800, FOR EXAMPLE, IT COST THEM FIVE GRAND. WE WERE TO DO IT IN TODAY'S MARKET. WE SHOULD KEEP THAT INTO CONSIDERATION WHENEVER WE'RE MAKING THE DECISION BECAUSE THE COST OF LUMBER IS STILL ALL TIME HIGH COMPARED TO 2020 IN THE PREVIOUS YEARS. NOT JUST COST OF LUMBER. I MEAN ELSE WE KNOW THAT COVID, I MEAN, IT, IT, YOU SHOULD HAVE SPENT YOUR MONEY WHEN IT WAS CHEAPER FOR 20, 20 21, YOU KNOW, VERSUS NOW THAT WE DIDN'T KNOW, RIGHT? I, I THINK SOME OF THESE, I THINK, I DON'T KNOW WHY THEY WOULDN'T, I THINK IT'S JUST 'CAUSE OF THE PAPERWORK AND THEY HAVE SOME OF THE OTHER FUNDS, I DON'T KNOW HOW STRICT THEY ARE WITH THE OTHER FUNDS JUST AWARDED. I KNOW SOME OTHER PEOPLE JUST MAKE A DONATION AND THOSE FUNDS ARE READILY AVAILABLE THEN HAVING TO GO THROUGH A PROCESS HERE. SO THIS IS LIKE THEIR LAST STRATEGY, YOU KNOW, WHICH IS NOT COOL THOUGH BECAUSE OTHER PEOPLE COULD USE THIS FUND. I KNOW, BUT, BUT I MEAN, I'M JUST, I AM JUST, I'M JUST HYPOTHETICALLY IMAGINING WHAT THEY COULD BE THINKING THROUGH. RIGHT, RIGHT. I COULD TELL YOU THAT WITH THE FUNDING THAT THEY RECEIVE, THEY, UM, IT'S A THOUSAND DOLLARS PER PROJECT UP TO A THOUSAND DOLLARS PER PROJECT. UM, LAST YEAR THEY DID HELP ABOUT FIVE OR SIX PEOPLE. I DON'T REMEMBER EXACT THE EXACT NUMBER. UM, USUALLY IT'S FOR WHEELCHAIR RAMPS AND ANY MINOR HOME REPAIRS IN THE HOME. BUT THEY ACTUALLY ENDED UP USING SOME OF THE FUNDS TO HELP PEOPLE WITH BURST PIPES, BLACK MEN PLUMBING. UM, BASICALLY ONLY CHARGED THEM COST OF MATERIALS OR WHATEVER FOR THEM TO DO THE PROJECTS FOR THEM. SO THEY WERE ACTUALLY ABLE TO HELP A COUPLE OF, UH, ELDERLY PEOPLE THAT HAD BURST PIPES AFTER THE FREEZE. SO THAT WAS SOME OF THAT WE LAST YEAR, WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN THE REST OF THIS YEAR, YOU KNOW, YOU SAID FIVE OR SIX PEOPLE THEY HELPED LAST YEAR, BUT THE CAP FOR EACH PROJECT IS A THOUSAND DOLLARS. SO, SO AS A, AS A NOTE GUYS TOO, UM, AT THE MEETING, UH, SHE REPORTED THAT THE AVERAGE WHEELCHAIR RAMP IS COSTING ABOUT $1,300. IT WAS SOMETHING SHE VERBALLY SAID AT THE POINT, ALRIGHT, IN THE PAST THEY'VE NEVER ASKED FOR SALARY, UH, TO PROCURE. IT USUALLY WAS JUST THE COST OF THE PROJECT, [00:10:01] WHICH WOULD BE THE CLIENT SERVICES LINE ITEM. BUT THIS TIME THEY'RE, THEY'RE REQUESTING SALARY AND A COUPLE OF OTHER ITEMS AS WELL. $1,500. I MEAN, I'M NOT, I'M NOT A WOODMAN OR ANYTHING, BUT IT'S KIND OF HIGH DEPENDING ON DEPENDING HOW MANY YOUR FOOT, HOW BIG THE RAMP IS. BUT GUYS, 13, NOT BUILD, NOT RAMPS, BUT WALK UP TO MOBILE HOMES THAT ARE WOODEN, YOU KNOW, EIGHT FOOT WIDE, YOU KNOW. BUT I MEAN, 1300 SEEMS KIND OF, ESPECIALLY WHEN THERE'S NO LABOR, MAJORITY OF THE TIME IN A JOB, LABOR IS THE TIME AND A HALF COST OF MATERIAL. SO IF THERE'S NO LABOR, 1300 SEEMS JUST LIKE THAT WAS THE AVERAGE COST. YEAH, THAT'S A COST SHE REPORTED TO ME. I DUNNO IF THEY'RE GETTING ONE OF THE EXPERIENCE, SORRY. ONE OF THE EXPERIENCES I'VE HAD, BEING A LANDLORD AND HAVING DONE REHABS MATERIAL FLIES AWAY, PAINT, NAILS, WOOD, THERE WAS WINGS OVERNIGHT. YOU CAN HAVE IT LOCKED DOWN AND PEOPLE CAN BE WORKING AND NEXT THING YOU KNOW, IT JUST EVAPORATES, YOU KNOW, LIKE OFFICE SUPPLIES SOMETIMES. BUT YOU'RE ALSO UNCOVERING OTHER THINGS AS YOU'RE RENOVATING A HOUSE, RIGHT. OR A PROJECT. THEN, THEN IF THEY'RE DOING THOSE THINGS, THEN IT'S NOT JUST A WHEELCHAIR RAMP, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? THEN SHOULD, SHOULD THEY ADD WHEELCHAIR PLUS? WELL, IT IS SUPPOSED TO BE, UM, WHEELCHAIR RAMPS OR MINOR HOME REPAIRS. OKAY. SO I LIKE THE OTHER SUGGESTIONS THEY PROVIDE. UH, EXAMPLE, EXCUSE ME, IS FLOORING ISSUES UP SLASH SHOWER CONVERSIONS? WHAT I AM AT, IS IT JUST ME ONE PERSON SPEAK? I WOULDN'T MIND FUNDING THAT. I EVEN MARKED IT DOWN IS THAT I KNOW SUMMERS ARE GETTING HOTTER. I WANNA HAVE NO MIND FUNDING THEM AC THE WINDOW UNITS, THESE RECIPIENTS. SO AT LEAST THEY CAN HAVE SOME SORT OF COOL, OR IF THEY'RE HAVING A PREEXISTING WINDOW UNIT, THEY CAN HAVE THAT MONEY TO, TO REPLACE IT. 'CAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S A SIMPLE FIX. BUT THEY CAN ACTUALLY DO THAT ALREADY. YEAH. THEN THEY TALKED ABOUT THAT. YEAH, THEY CAN ACTUALLY, THE THING I THOUGHT YOU ASKED HER THAT. YEAH, I DID. YEAH, YOU DID KNOW. I'M SAYING LIKE, I, I WOULDN'T MIND SOME OF THE FUNDS IF WE DO AGREE TO FUND THEM THAT SOME OF THE ONE GO TO . ONE OF THE THINGS I THINK WE ALL, WE ARE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE AND I'LL JUST SAY IT. 'CAUSE AS WE HAVE THOUGHT ABOUT THIS, THIS IS NOTHING PERSONAL. I KNOW WE KEEP SAYING JUST, JUST IN MY OPINION, WE'RE JUST HERE DOING THIS SERVICE VOLUNTEER TO THEM. SO IT'S NOTHING PERSONAL. I THINK WE ALL KNOW THAT. BUT COMING BACK TO THAT, I USED TO DO WINDOW UNITS, NOW I'M DOING DUCTLESS AC SYSTEMS. THEY'RE MUCH MORE EFFICIENT AND ENERGY WISE AND INSTALLATION AND SO FORTH, BETTER THAN A, LIKE A WINDOW UNIT WILL JUST DO ONE ROOM WHERE DUCTLESS SYSTEM CAN HANDLE CERTAIN AMOUNT OF SQUARE FOOTAGE DEPENDING ON THE TIME IT IS, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN PUT IT IN A, LIKE A MAIN IN THE HOUSE AND IT WILL CARRY THE AIR INTO BEDROOM. WHERE DOES THAT COST IN COMPARISON TO A WINDOW UNIT? IT'S MOSTLY HERE. WHERE I THINK IT GETS TRICKY JUST BETWEEN YOU AND ME, I THINK BECAUSE IT DEPENDS IF YOU SHOP IT AROUND WHERE A LANDLORD WILL, YOU KNOW, HAGGLE WITH CONTRACTORS AND SHOP IT AROUND, I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'RE DOING THAT OR NOT. 'CAUSE I JUST PAID FOR ONE THIS MORNING AND IT WAS MUCH CHEAPER TO DO A TWO TON DUCTLESS UNIT FROM A GUY OUTTA CONROE THAN TO DO TWO UNITS. YOU KNOW, IT MIGHT COST LIKE 1500 FOR TWO UNITS. BIG ONES IN A MOBILE HOME WHERE WE'RE DOING THAT AND MUCH MORE ENERGY EFFICIENT. I MEAN, TWO 10 IS A TWO 20, NOT A ONE 10, BUT IT, IT IS OVER OVERALL, YOU KNOW, IT'S MUCH BETTER. SO I DON'T KNOW IF THEY ACTUALLY HAGGLE, LIKE SOMEBODY OWNS A BUSINESS WOOD. YEAH. FROM IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING, THEY JUST GO TO MCCOY'S AND BUY THE SUPPLIES. YEAH. AND MCCOYS IS NOT, THEY DON'T PAY CONTRACTORS. YEAH, THEY DON'T PAY. THAT WOULD ANOTHER, YEAH, MCCOY'S IS NOT THE CHEAPEST. LOWE'S AND HOME DEPOT AT LEAST HAS A PROGRAM WHERE YOU, IF YOU CHARGE IT ON THEIR CREDIT CARD, YOU GET 5% BACK AND ANYTHING OVER A CERTAIN AMOUNT AT LIKE LOWE'S 1500, YOU CAN RUN IT THROUGH THEIR CONTRACTOR PROGRAM AND THEY CAN GIVE YOU 15% OFF ON TOP OF THAT. SO I DON'T KNOW IF THEY DO ANY OF THAT. I MEAN, I'M JUST FOR HANDS ON EXPERIENCE AND THEY'RE ALSO JUST DOING A JOB. SO I I, YEAH. YEAH. I I GUESS WHENEVER Y'ALL CONSIDER WHATEVER YOU'RE GONNA FUND, I'M JUST CONSIDER THE LEVEL OF SPENDING THAT THEY'VE HAD IN THE PAST, WHENEVER YOU'RE GONNA DO THAT. BECAUSE I WOULD HATE TO GIVE SOMEBODY MONEY THAT THEY'RE NOT GONNA SPEND THAT CAN BE USED BETTER ELSEWHERE. YEAH, AND I'M OKAY WITH, I MEAN IF WE GO TO, TO, LET'S JUST SAY LOOK AT THE PREVIOUS YEAR, $3,800, THE ONLY CONCERN IS IF THAT'S AN AVERAGE OF THREE WHEELCHAIR RAMPS. BUT WILL THEY BE ABLE TO, IN TODAY'S COST OF [00:15:01] MATERIAL, BE ABLE TO EVEN PROVIDE THREE AT 3,800, YOU KNOW, WHICH IS WHY THEY HAVE OTHER FUNDING SOURCES THAT THEY CAN USE TO ADD TO THAT. SO I'M, I MEAN, IN MY MIND I THOUGHT ABOUT FIVE GRAND, 7,500 OF JUST ME. UM, I WAS, I WAS THINKING CUTTING DOWN TOO. NOT CUT. I KNOW WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO CUT. AND THEY ARE THE ONES WHO THE LEAST AMOUNT OF, UH, THE OTHER, SO, UH, YEAH, I MEAN THEY DO HAVE, THEY DO HAVE, THEY DO WHAT ELSE? WE DON'T WANT SAY NO TO ANYONE. NO, WE DON'T. WE DON'T WANNA SAY NO. SO IT'S JUST WE NEED TO NO, YOU CAN SAY NO. IT'S OKAY TO SAY NO, BUT THEY'RE ALL DOING GOOD WORK. BUT ALSO, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO, AS A FIDUCIARY FOR THE FUNDS, WE NEED TO BE CAREFUL ON HOW MUCH WE HAVE AND FOR THE BUDGETING TOTALLY ON OUR MONEY, THIS MONEY. AND SOME PEOPLE JUST, THEY HAVE OTHER BECKY, THEY SHOULDN'T DEPEND TOTALLY ON OUR MONEY. THAT'S ACTUALLY ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE ASK THEM. I MEAN, THIS SHOULD NOT BE THE END ALL BE ALL IN THEIR PROJECT. IF THEY DON'T GET FUNDED, THEY SHOULD STILL BE ABLE TO CARRY ON. UM, THAT'S LIKE IN REGULATIONS, , YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? SO, AND THAT'S, THAT'S TYPICAL MANAGEMENT FOR PROGRAMS LIKE THIS. SO IF YOU GO TO THE UNITED WAY, IF YOU'RE GETTING A GRANT FROM ANYBODY ELSE, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THEY'RE GONNA BE LOOKING FOR AS WELL. MAKING SURE YOU HAVE A DIVERSITY OF YOUR INCOME. AND I KNOW LOVE NETWORK AND UNITED WAY AND THE OTHER NONPROFITS HERE IN TOWN ALSO HELP PEOPLE WITH RENT. SO IF A SINGLE MOTHER, FOR EXAMPLE, OR A FAMILY IS IN A TROUBLE AND THEY HAVE AN EVICTION NOTICE, THEY CAN TAKE THAT EVICTION NOTICE AND THEY'LL ACTUALLY PAY THEIR RENT IN FULL FOR A MONTH OR TWO MONTH IF THEY HAVE. AND SO I, I'M, I DON'T THINK IT FUNDS, BUT REMEMBER WE'RE LOOKING AT JUST HANDS OF A CARPENTER, RIGHT? LOVE NETWORK HAS DOES A LOT, LOTS. THEY'RE ALL OVER THE PLACE, RIGHT? SO WE'RE FOCUSED LY ON MR. I'M, YOU KNOW, I'M, I'M DEFINITELY NOT IN TOO MUCH DISAGREEMENT WITH THE AMOUNT, THE $7,500, ALTHOUGH I WOULD LIKE TO SEE USED ON, SO I'M OKAY WITH THE AMOUNT, BUT I THINK, UH, IT WOULD BE BENEFICIAL TO ADD. SO CAN WE DO THAT? CAN WE ASK THEM TO DO THAT? WHENEVER THEY DO, THERE'S SUB RECIPIENT AGREEMENT. UM, THERE IS A SCOPE OF SERVICES AND WE ACTUALLY WILL PUT IN THE SCOPE OF SERVICES WHAT WE REQUIRE. AND COMING BACK TO YOUR POINT ABOUT GETTING HOTTER, I CAN PERSONALLY TELL YOU FROM ALL, ALL THE RENTERS, MY PERSONAL EXPERIENCE, ME HAS BEEN ONE OF THE HOTTEST MOMS AND PEOPLE HAVE BEEN QUIET. WE HAVE THREE WEEK WAIT WAVE. YEAH, YEAH. SOME PEOPLE KNEW THIS EXACTLY. AND AGENCIES HAVE BEEN BREAKING CRAZY UNITS AND PEOPLE HAVE BEEN, YOU KNOW, MAYBE IF WE SUGGEST TO ADD, UM, DIFFERENT THINGS THAT THEY OFFER, IT'LL GET THEM TO USE A MORE START THINKING OUTSIDE OF THE BOX. YEAH. OKAY. I'M FINE WITH THAT. I THINK IT MIGHT HAVE TO DO WITH HOW THEY MARKET IT, BECAUSE I THINK SEVERAL OTHER PEOPLE WE'VE HEARD FROM, I DON'T KNOW, IN MY OPINION, THAT'S NOT A FOCUS OF THEIRS AND THEY DON'T MARKET IT. LIKE I THINK MAYBE THEY OUGHT TO MARKET IT, BUT, UM, I THINK THAT MAY, I DON'T KNOW, MAYBE THAT HAS SOMETHING TO DO WITH THE FACT THAT THEY ONLY SPENT 37% OF THEIR FUNDS FROM 2021, RIGHT? LIKE THEY'RE NOT GETTING THE REFERRALS OR THEY'RE NOT OUT THERE MARKETING AND PEOPLE DON'T KNOW. SO THAT'S WHY THEY'RE NOT ABLE TO SPEND THOSE FUNDS. SO, UM, AGAIN, IT'S SORT OF THEIR STEWARDSHIP OF THE MONEY. I DON'T KNOW THAT THEY'RE DOING A GREAT JOB OF IT, WHAT THEY'RE ALLOCATED. SO YOU CAN ALWAYS GO THE WAY OF MR. SINGH AND REDUCE IT TO SEE HOW THEY DO, BECAUSE YOU KNOW, THEY'RE PROBABLY GONNA FLY AGAIN NEXT YEAR. YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? SO THEN THIS CAN BE KIND OF LIKE THEIR TEST YEAR, LIKE ALL RIGHT, WE'LL FUND YOU, WE'RE NOT REAL HAPPY WITH THE WAY YOU'RE SPENDING YOUR MONEY AND WE'LL FUND YOU NOW. BUT I'M DEFINITELY FORWARD DECREASING. I AM TOO SURE IT'S INCREASING THE AMOUNT THAT, SO MR. SINGH PUT OUT A DOLLAR AMOUNT. DID YOU SAY 5,000? I WAS JUST THROWING THE NUMBER OUT THERE. SINCE YOU LIKE 5,000 NUMBER IF YOU THAT JUST PART 5,000 NOT AGREE TO ANYTHING AND THEY SEE WHERE THE MATH IS AT. OKAY. IF WE NEED TO COME BACK AND CATCH SOME MORE, ADD SOME MORE, WE'LL AT LEAST HAVE THAT OPTION. OKAY. SO LETS THAT WE'RE NOW AGREE TO ADOPT. OH YEAH, WE WANT, WE CAN ADD ALL THE NUMBERS IN HERE AND THEN WE'LL DOING THE ROUGH DRAFT HERE. YES. OKAY. AND THEN, BUT DEFINITELY WITH THE, WITH [00:20:01] THE, WITH AN ASTERISK THAT WE WANT THEM TO BRANCH OUT INTO OTHER SERVICES AND OTHER DR. SHANE. SO, UM, WE SKIPPED SUBSTANDARD. I DIDN'T EVEN REALIZE THAT. THAT'S, UM, IF YOU WANT, WE CAN KNOCK OUT OUR INTERNAL PROGRAMS REAL QUICK. THE CITY FUNDED THE ONES THAT WE MANAGE IN HOUSE. UM, WE HAVE ONE 20 FOR SUBSTANDARD, WHICH IS WHAT WE'VE RECEIVED IN THE PAST COUPLE OF YEARS. DID Y'ALL WANT TO LOWER THAT OR, THAT'S BASICALLY THE SALARY AND RELATED EXPENSES FOR THE DEMOLITION AND HOUSING INSPECTOR AS WELL AS, UM, YEAH, THAT'S MAINLY IT. SALARY RELATED EXPENSES, UM, OFFICE SUPPLIES, TRAINING, TRAVEL. WHICH ONE IS THIS? IT'S ONE OF THE CITY ONES. SO IT'S GONNA BE PAGE TWO, I BELIEVE. THREE. TWO. TWO. SECTION ONE. IT'S THE FIRST ONE. THAT WAS THE FIRST ONE. TAB TWO. TAB TWO. OKAY. I'M OKAY. YEAH. SO ON THIS, UM, I DID PUT, UM, AN ASTERISK ON THE BOTTOM THAT THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT WE REQUESTED LAST YEAR. AND WE WERE, AND IT WOULD, WE WOULD CHANGE IT IF NEEDED ONCE WE GOT OUR ALLOCATION. AND THE ONLY THING THAT I CHANGED IT WAS TO PUT THE PROGRAM ADMINISTRATION PORTION AT THE CAP, WHICH IS THAT 1 32 IS THE 20% CAP, WHICH IS WHAT WE USUALLY FUND IT FOR. THAT'S THE ONLY THING. OTHER THAN THAT, THE HOUSING PROGRAMS, UM, WE GOT 360 LAST YEAR. WE, I THINK WE SHOULD INCREASE IT PERSONALLY BECAUSE OF, UM, I MEAN RIGHT NOW FOR THE HOUSE ON P AND BEAM, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO DO A CHANGE ORDER BECAUSE IT'S GONNA EXCEED 25% OF WHAT IT ORIGINALLY THE CONTRACT PRICE WAS BECAUSE IT'S ON P AND BEAM. SO THAT'S GONNA BE, IT'S GONNA HAVE TO GO TO COUNCIL AND EVERYTHING. SO THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING THAT WE MIGHT LOOK AT INCREASING. SO WE'RE SAYING A 25% INCREASE IN THE COST OF A NEW HOME SINCE LAST YEAR? WELL, IT WAS PEER AND BEAM THOUGH, SO THAT DID ADD TO THAT, YOU KNOW, BUT ON TOP OF THE PEER AND BEAM THERE'S A 25. SO BECAUSE IT WAS P AND B, BECAUSE WE HAD TO RAISE IT. I SEE. OKAY. 25 INCREASE WE ANTICIPATED. OKAY. BUT, UM, PART OF THAT GOES BACK TO, SO MS. RHONDA, YOU SAID YOU WERE GOOD WITH SUBSTANDARD STAYING AT THE ONE 20. I'M GOOD WITH THAT. GREAT. ANY THOUGHTS? WE'RE GOOD. ALL RIGHT. AND THEN HOUSING. WE HAVE IT AT 360 AS OUR REQUEST, BUT WE CAN REVISIT THAT LATER IF YOU WANT. NEIGHBORHOOD IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM. BOBBY GOT TO PARTICIPATE THIS WEEKEND. WE HAD A NEIGHBORHOOD CLEANUP EVENT. I GOT PICTURES OF BOBBY TAKING STUFF OUT OF TRASH OUT OF PEOPLE'S CARS AND THROWING HIM IN A DUMPSTER. UH, BUT IT WAS A GOOD EVENT. IT WAS GOOD. YEAH, ON WEST MAIN I TALKED ABOUT. YEAH, SHRINER, RIGHT? YEAH, THAT WAS US. I THOUGHT ABOUT YOU. I'M THEIR SPIRIT . SO YOU'RE THERE IN SPIRIT. THE NEIGHBORHOOD IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM, IS THAT ON BAYTOWN ENGAGED NEIGHBORHOODS APPLY FOR NEIGHBORHOOD IMPROVEMENT GRANTS. IS THAT, THAT'S THE NEIGHBORHOOD EMPOWERMENT GRANTS. SO THAT'S DIFFERENT. THE TILE NEXT TO, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU'RE ON THE HOMEPAGE, THERE'S TILES FOR EACH OF THE PROGRAMS. THE TILE NEXT TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM IS FOR THE NIP. THIS ONE? YEAH. SO THEY'RE RIGHT NEXT TO ANOTHER. OKAY. BUT THEY'RE SEPARATE. THEY'RE SEPARATE. OKAY. SO THAT 20 GRAND COVERS SALARIES, UM, AND RELATED EXPENSES PLUS THE FUNDING FOR OFFICE SUPPLIES. UM, THE FUNDING FOR THE TRASH, WE CALL IT TRASH BASH. UM, THAT'S THE LINE ITEM, THE TRASH OFF AND THINGS LIKE THAT. BASICALLY TO DO, UM, BEAUTIFICATION PROJECTS WITHIN SPECIFIC NEIGHBORHOODS. THIS YEAR IT IS PELI, BUT WE'RE ALSO TRYING TO INCLUDE OUR PREVIOUS NPS AS WELL. WHENEVER WE, UM, DO SOMETHING LIKE THIS ONE, WE WERE IN PELLY, BUT MIDDLETOWN, WHICH IS WHERE PELLY PARK IS, IS ONE OF OUR OLD N IPS. AND THEN WEST BAYTOWN WAS RIGHT OVER HERE, WAS ONE. SO WE WERE, WE HAD PEOPLE ALL OVER THE PLACE ON SATURDAY. SO, SO WHAT WAS THE ALLOCATION LAST YEAR FOR 2020 WITH THAT? AND THE FUNDING FOR THE OTHER GRANTS YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT? IS THAT THE CITY'S GENERAL FUND? SO THE CITY FIX AND THERE'S NOT AS MANY STRINGS AS OUR MONEY . DID ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY THOUGHTS ON THE NIP TRY TO KNOCK THESE OUT AT LEAST BECAUSE THE OTHER ONES MIGHT TAKE A WHILE. ALL RIGHT. TRANSPORTATION. TRANSPORTATION. YEAH. IT'S TAB NUMBER EIGHT. SO, UM, AGAIN, AS A LABOR LIMIT, THEY HAVEN'T EXPENDED ANY MONEY. UM, BUT THIS WAS AN, JUST THIS, I'M JUST KIND OF THINKING OUT LOUD. THIS WAS ANOTHER ONE I REMEMBER SHE SAID, I THOUGHT SHE SAID THERE WAS ROOM FOR MORE RIDERS, BUT I WASN'T SURE THAT THEY [00:25:01] HAVE A CONCRETE PLAN ON HOW TO GET MORE RIDER. LIKE I'M STILL, THIS IS ANOTHER ONE I DON'T LIKE. I'M NOT SURE ABOUT THEIR MARKETING EFFORT. UM, I DON'T KNOW WHAT ME SOME THOUGHTS, I JUST DUNNO HOW THEY'RE GONNA GET THE WRITERS, RIGHT? LIKE, DO YOU HAVE LIKE A, A BARGAINING CLAN, RIGHT? I DON'T KNOW. I MEAN, I THINK I ASKED HER THAT, BUT BOBBY, WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS? UH, I HAVE MY AGREEMENT. I, UM, ABOUT THE REASON THAT A LOT OF THESE ORGANIZATIONS GO BY, UM, GOES BY REFERRAL IS BECAUSE IT COULD CUT DOWN ON THE MARKETING COSTS GO BY WORD OF MOUTH. SO THAT'S LESS OF A HIT FINANCIALLY THAT THEY HAVE TO TAKE. THAT'S WHY YOU, YOU ASK ANY ONE OF THESE, EVEN BEING ON OPTIMIST CLUB, HOW DO YOU GO ABOUT THE SCHOLARSHIPS WORK? IT, IT'S LESS A FINANCIAL PERMIT OFF. YEAH. THAT'S WHY IT, YOU HAVE TO MAKE TOO MANY FLYERS. TOO MANY. WELL, ONE ADVERTISING OPTION THAT THEY DO HAVE AVAILABLE TO THEM, AND WE DID DISCUSS IT AT THE MEETING, WAS FOR, UM, THE FREE POSTERS THAT THEY COULD PUT UP ON THE HARRIS COUNTY TRANSIT BUSES, WHICH IS WHAT THEIR CLIENTELE IS RIDING BASICALLY. SO THAT IS AN OPTION. AND THAT'S AT NO COST TO THEM. UM, TRUE. ANOTHER DISCUSSION WE HAD AT THE MEETING, UM, WITH THEM PARTNERING WITH HEARTS AND HANDS FOR THE DOORSTEP BLESSING PROGRAM, THAT'S ALSO ON THE DOCKET RESIDENT SINCE THEY ALREADY ARE GOING OUT TO SENIOR HOUSING. WHERE'S MY ATTORNEY? ? NO, I CAN'T AFFORD. I'M SORRY. UM, BUT YEAH, AND OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN ALWAYS LOOK AT, THEY HAVE SUBMITTED A REIMBURSEMENT REQUEST FOR THE FIRST, FIRST QUARTER, BUT THERE WAS SOME, SOME MISSING ITEMS ON IT, WHICH IS WHY THEY HAVEN'T BEEN PAID IT YET, WHICH IS WHY IT'S NOT ON HERE. BUT THE REQUEST IS A LITTLE BIT LESS, ABOUT $6,000 OR SOMETHING FOR THE FIRST QUARTER. SO THAT'S SOMETHING. SO AGAIN, OUT OF 66,000 ALLOTTED. RIGHT. AND WE DIDN'T GET ANYTHING FOR THEIR SECOND QUARTER YET. BUT WAS THAT SIX, 6,000 THAT WAS COMING OUT OF THE SERVICES OR WAS THAT 6,000? NO, 975 WAS COMING OUTTA SERVICES, REMEMBER 'CAUSE THAT WAS FOR THE BUS PASSES AND THE REST WERE COMING OUTTA SALARY. SALARY. SO IT WAS ABOUT A THOUSAND FOR SERVICES AND 5,000 FOR SALARY BECAUSE IT WAS JUST UNDER, IT WAS JUST ABOVE, I THINK IT WAS LIKE 41 87 OR SOMETHING. I FORGOT EXACTLY. I YOU SAY NUMBERS SO FAST. I TRY TO ROUND THEM IN MY HEAD AND REMEMBER THEM. BUT IT AGAIN, . SO DO, DO WE HAVE NUMBERS ON THE NUMBER THEY REPORTED AT THE MEETING WAS 104 CURRENT PARTICIPANTS? UM, THOSE PERMANENT PARTICIPANTS? YES. OR IS IT, DOES IT VARY FROM NO, WITH THE PROGRAM YOU ACTUALLY HAVE TO SUBMIT AN APPLICATION WITH ALL THE SUPPORTING DOCUMENTS AND EVERYTHING AND THEN YOU'LL GET A QUARTERLY BUS PASS AND A RIDES CARD MONTHLY THAT, UM, YOU CAN USE. AND THEN EVERY QUARTER THEY'LL MAIL YOU ONE. NOW IF IT GETS RETURNED, THEN THEY'LL REACH OUT AND SEE, YOU KNOW, 'CAUSE UNFORTUNATELY THIS IS ELDERLY AND DISABLED AND WHEN YOU'RE ELDERLY THINGS HAPPEN. SO, UM, SO THEY DO HAVE TO CHECK AND MAKE SURE THAT EVERYTHING'S GOING OKAY ON THAT. BUT, AND IT IS, UH, I I WILL SAY THAT IF THIS PROGRAM WERE TO GO AWAY, I THINK WE WOULD HAVE 90 OR 104 ELDERLY AND DISABLED PEOPLE UP HERE IN CITY HALL YELLING AT ME BECAUSE WHENEVER THEY DON'T GET ANYTHING FROM THEM ON TIME, I DO GET THE PHONE CALLS STILL BECAUSE I USED TO MANAGE THE PROGRAM. SO I STILL DO GET THE PHONE CALLS. OH MY GOSH. UM, SO, UM, SO IT'S JUST A MATTER OF DO THEY NEED THE TOTAL AMOUNT OF FUNDING THAT THEY'RE REQUESTING OR NOT? SO THE BUSES ARE WITH PIERCE COUNTY TRANSIT? YES, MA'AM. SO THAT 80, YOU KNOW, I'M LOOKING AT ALMOST $80,000 THAT THEY'RE USING ON CLIENT SERVICES. UM, YOU KNOW, IN MY MIND, IF THEY WERE ACTUALLY OPERATING THE BUSES AND TAKING MAINTENANCE, THINGS LIKE THAT, I COULD SEE THAT'S A BIG, YOU KNOW, EXPENSE. THEY DON'T EVEN HAVE TO ALLOCATE FOR, YOU KNOW, AS NOT EVEN OPERATING THE BUSES. YEAH. THE 40,000 IS BASICALLY TO PAY FOR THE RIDES CARDS TO ADD MONEY TO THE RIDES CARDS AND TO PAY FOR THE BUS PASSES. THAT'S AND THE TAXIS, RIGHT? YEAH, THAT'S THE RIDES CARD. OH, OKAY. OKAY. SO IT'S, IT'S WORTH NOTING AGAIN, TO BRING UP COVID AFFECTED THE SERVICE. UM, THE BUSES WEREN'T REALLY RUNNING FOR A LITTLE BIT AND THEN THEY WERE FREE FOR AN EXTENDED PERIOD. SO THAT COULD HAVE HAD AN EFFECT ON THE USAGE HISTORICALLY. UM, SHARON WILL TELL YOU, BACK WHEN, [00:30:01] WHEN SHE MANAGED IT, WHEN THE CITY MANAGED IT, IT USED A LOT OF THE FUNDING. I MEAN IT WAS NEVER A HUNDRED PERCENT, BUT I'LL SAY WE PROBABLY USED ABOUT 50 OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. AND SO CURRENTLY THERE ARE 104 CLIENTS AND THEN YOU SAY THEY WANT TO INCREASE IT TO, I THOUGHT THAT WAS AN INTERESTING ONE. 11 RIDERS I KNOW, IN MY OPINION, NOT A PARTICULARLY HIGH BAR. THAT'S WHAT I WAS LIKE. I DO NOT AGREE WITH THE CLIENT SERVICES BEING $40,000 FOR SOME BUS PASSES, HAND RIDES PASS AND IT RIDES PASSES. YOU HAVE 104 PEOPLE. HOW MUCH DOES THE BUS PASS? UH, QUARTERLY? UM, THEY'RE ABOUT $40, UM, PER QUARTER PER PERSON. BUT ONE OF THE THINGS WITH THE PROGRAM IS, AND THIS IS UH, BEFORE I STARTED DOING IT, IS, UH, MY PREDECESSOR, WHENEVER PEOPLE WOULD APPLY, UM, NOT EVERYBODY WOULD GET A BUS PASS AND A RIDES CARD. EITHER YOU'D GET A BUS PASS OR A RIDES CARD. SO THERE ARE SOME PEOPLE WHO ONLY, THAT HAVE BEEN ON THE PROGRAM FOREVER WHO ONLY HAVE A RIDES CARD. AND THERE ARE SOME PEOPLE WHO ONLY HAVE A BUS PASS. WHEN I TOOK IT OVER, YOU GOT BOTH BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT YOU WERE QUALIFIED FOR. SO I SAID YOU BOTH, YOU KNOW, UM, AND THAT'S HOW THEY'RE DOING IT NOW AS WELL. SO THERE THAT WHOLE 104 MIGHT NOT BE GETTING A BUS PASS OR A RIDES CARD, RIGHT? SO THAT'S, THAT'S SOMETHING, AND I DON'T KNOW WHY IT WAS DONE THAT WAY IN THE PAST 'CAUSE I DIDN'T GET TRAINED. I KIND OF HAVE TO JUMP IN AND LEARN IT. BUT THE BUS PASSES, I'M NOT SURE. BUT THE BUS PASSES ARE A FLAT COST. IT'S GONNA BE THAT $40 A QUARTER. BUT THE RIDE'S BASED ON USAGE. WELL, YEAH. YEAH. OKAY. SO IF YOU USE THE RIDES, IF YOU'RE GOING TO THE HOSPITAL OR MD ANDERSON OR WHATEVER, THEN YOU HAVE THAT COST. OTHERWISE YOU WOULDN'T HAVE THAT COST. YOU JUST HAVE THE BUS PASS. SO IT WILL TAKE THEM TO HOUSTON, NOT JUST AROUND BAYTOWN THEN TO EXACTLY. TO TAKE THEM TO TO, IF YOU'RE USING THE RIDES CARD OUTSIDE OF BAYTOWN, IT HAS TO BE FOR MEDICAL APPOINTMENTS. UM, IF YOU'RE USING IT WITHIN BAYTOWN, YOU CAN GO ANYWHERE BUT THE LIQUOR STORE AND OTHER TYPES OF STORES THAT YOU SHOULDN'T GO TO. SO IS THE COST THE SAME TO TAKE ME TO THE, I WAS ABOUT TO SAY LIQUOR STORE, BUT TO TAKE ME TO HEB? IS THE COST THE SAME AS IT IS TO TAKE ME TO MD ANDERSON? IT'S A TAXI, SO, NO, BUT SEE, HERE'S, HERE'S MY CONCERN AGAIN. WHEN IT COMES TO MONEY, $40 IS A SET COST. SO WHAT IF THEY RUN OUT? IS THERE A NUMBER OF USAGE IN THAT THREE MONTH QUARTER? NO, IT'S UNLIMITED RIDES ON THE HARRIS COUNTY TRANSIT BUSES VERY WELL. SO I CAN RIDE IT 10 TIMES A DAY. THAT'S THE BUSES THOUGH. BUT FOR THE RIDES CARD, THERE IS A CAP. WHAT IS THAT CAP? SO THE WAY IT IS, IT'S UP TO $200 A MONTH. OKAY. A HUNDRED DOLLARS. LET'S, SO LET'S SAY, UM, BOBBY HAS A RIDES CARD AND HE USED ALL 200 OF HIS DOLLARS. SO AT THE END OF THE MONTH, A REPORT IS RUN. WE SEE HOW MUCH MONEY IS LEFT ON EACH PERSON'S ACCOUNT. IF YOU'RE AT ZERO AT THE END OF THE MONTH, LOVE NETWORK WOULD GIVE THEM A HUNDRED DOLLARS AND HARRIS COUNTY RIDES MATCHES THEM A HUNDRED DOLLARS. IF THERE'S $50 LEFT, LOVE NETWORK WILL GIVE 'EM 75. AND HARRIS COUNTY MATCHES THEM 75 TO BRING IT UP TO 200. WE DON'T ADD 200 EVERY SINGLE MONTH. UNDERSTOOD. IT'S UP TO $200. SO IT'S A MATCH. THAT'S WHAT THAT 40 IS. OKAY. BUT, BUT MY CONCERN AGAIN THERE IS IF IT'S A TA IS IT AN ACTUAL TAXI, IS IT UBER YELLOW CAB, PASADENA CAB COMPANY? HARRIS COUNTY RIDES PARTNERS FOR CERTAIN ONES YOU HAVE TO CALL THE ONES THAT THEY PARTNER WITH. SO DO THEY GET A DISCOUNT? SO THEY'RE PARTNERING WITH THEM AND THEY'RE EXCLUSIVELY, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE GETTING THE EXCLUSIVE MONOPOLY OF A CONTRACT. I COULD NOT ANSWER THAT QUESTION. THAT'S WHAT, AND AND DO THEY HAVE PEAK HOURS OR NON-PEAK HOURS LIKE NORMAL BUSINESS DOES? 'CAUSE I MEAN, I'M A FIRM BELIEVER IN OPEN MARKET, YOU KNOW, AND, AND IN A DEMOCRATIC PROCESS, YOU KNOW, IN A CAPITALIST SOCIETY SHOULD BE OPEN MARKET. AND IF I'M, IF I'M TELLING MY CLIENTS THAT THEY ONLY HAVE TO GO TO, YOU KNOW, PASADENA TAXI, I THINK YELLOW CAB IS ALSO YELLOW CAB OR PASADENA, EVEN IF IT'S TWO, THEN I THINK THEY ALSO KNOW THAT IN A GIVEN CALENDAR YEAR OR A QUARTER, THEY'RE GONNA GET X AMOUNT OF DOLLARS FROM ME. THEY SHOULD GIVE ME A BIT OF A BREAKDOWN, A DISCOUNT. AND I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'RE GETTING THAT OR NOT. THAT'S, YOU KNOW, THEY, WE HAVE A CONTRACT WITH THEM. I DON'T KNOW. YEAH, I MEAN THE ONLY THING I KNOW IS THAT WE'VE HAD PEOPLE, UM, HAVE ISSUES HAVING THE TAXIS COME PICK THEM UP. 'CAUSE THEY DON'T WANT TO COME TO BAYTOWN SOMETIMES. RIGHT. AND I'VE NEVER SEEN THEY DROPPED OFF AT THE MEDICAL CENTER. LOOK, YOU'LL HAVE AN ISSUE HAVING THE CAB COME AND PICK THEM UP TO BRING THEM BACK TO BATES. NO, THAT'S NOT GOOD. THAT'S STUFF THAT HAS HAPPENED IN THE PAST. HAVE TO YEAH, I, I REPORT, I REPORT THEM. I HAVE TO DIRECT THEM TO HARRIS COUNTY RIDES BECAUSE THERE'S NOTHING WE DO ABOUT THAT. HARRIS COUNTY RIDES IS THE ONE THAT HOLDS OH, TO GET BACK HOME. YEAH, I, YEAH, IT'S, IT'S, IT IS AN ISSUE THAT HAS COME UP IN THE PAST. YEAH, BECAUSE HARRIS COUNTY TRANSPORTATION IS A LARGE ORGANIZATION AS WELL. UM, WITH PROFESSIONALS THAT ARE WORKING THERE, I WOULD, I WOULD ASSUME, I DON'T KNOW, BUT I WOULD ASSUME THAT THEY HAVE [00:35:01] SOME SORT OF NEGOTIATION FURTHER. YEAH, THEY'RE WAY BIGGER THAN US. I'M SURE THEY, BECAUSE I KNOW HARRIS COUNTY TRANSIT AND THE CITY HAVE A, A COOPERATION AGREEMENT, BUT THERE'S ALWAYS LEGAL CURRENT NOT TO GET POLITICAL. OUR CURRENT DISTRICT JUDGE, I MEAN HARRIS COUNTY JUDGE IS UNDER, YOU KNOW, THREE STAFFERS ARE UNDER , BUT, SO THAT'S A SEPARATE ORGANIZATION FROM I UNDERSTAND. I MEAN, I'M JUST WONDERING OUT NOW, YOU KNOW. YEAH, NO, LET'S, IT'S FAIR QUESTIONS AND SOMETHING SOMETHING LIKE QUESTIONS LIKE THESE SHARON AND I DON'T HAVE THE ANSWERS TO 'EM. NORMALLY WE WOULD HAVE ENOUGH TIME THAT WE COULD, YOU KNOW, MAKE NOTE OF 'EM, GET SOME ANSWERS. UM, IF THESE QUESTIONS STILL EXIST NEXT YEAR, WE CAN ASK THEM AT THE POOL HEARING TOO, UM, TO GET ALL OF, THEY MIGHT NOT ANSWER IT. THEY MIGHT DIRECT US. SO THEY MIGHT NOT, BUT WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO GET THE ANSWERS FOR YOU THEN. SO MY QUESTION, THE $40 AVERAGE QUARTER, AND THAT'S FOR THE ER AND THE, THAT'S JUST FOR THE BUS PASS. THAT'S JUST THE BUS PASS. OKAY. AND I MEAN, IF YOU DO THE NUMBERS ON THAT, UM, $160 A A YEAR BASICALLY FOR ONE INDIVIDUAL FOR BUS PASS. AND WHAT, HOW MANY RIDERS? AVERAGE HUNDRED RIDER FOUR RIGHT NOW. FOUR AT A HUNDRED. THAT'S LIKE 16 K. SO YOU HAVE THE MONEY GOING. EXACTLY. I I WOULD 28 GRAND WHEN YOU'RE DOING LIKE 26 GRAND, WHERE THAT MONEY AT, MAN, I WOULD RE DIVERT YOUR ATTENTION TO THE PAST USAGE OF THE FUNDS FOR THE LAST THREE YEARS. I DON'T THINK THE, EXCUSE ME, TOOK OVER THE PROGRAM. SO, AND BACK TO WHAT, WHAT SHARON SAID AT THE BEGINNING, IF THE FUNDS AREN'T USED, IF THEY'RE NOT FUNDED TO, TO THE AGENCIES, IT'S STILL IN THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIVISION. SO IT GETS REALLOCATED TYPICALLY FOR HOUSING. SO IT'S NOT LIKE, NOT LIKE OUT OF THEIR, THEIR MONEY LAST YEAR THAT THEY DIDN'T SPEND, IT'S NOT THAT IT GOT SPENT ON SOMETHING ELSE. WELL IT DID, IT GOT SPENT ON HOUSES. YEAH. SO, BUT IT WASN'T THERE. THEY DIDN'T, INSTEAD OF BEING ABLE TO SPEND THE MONEY IMMEDIATELY ON HOUSES, WE HAD TO WAIT A YEAR. THAT'S THE ONLY THING. RIGHT. WHICH IS WHY IT'S GOOD TO HAVE THESE DISCUSSIONS TO WHERE YOU GO DOWN LINE BY LINE AND DECIDE DO YOU WANNA FULLY FUND THEM FOR WHAT THEY ARE REQUESTING. AND THERE, LOPEZ, COMING BACK TO YOUR POINT, IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO GO TO HEB, FOR EXAMPLE, THE HEB HERE IN TOWN, YOU CAN GET DROPPED OFF AT HEB, GO INSIDE, DO YOUR GROCERIES, SNEAK OVER TO THE LIQUOR STORE, LIQUOR WITH YOUR STUFF IN A PACKAGE RECORDING. RIGHT? I'M JUST SAYING I COULD DO THAT, YOU KNOW. SO I HAVE A QUESTION. I'M SORRY I MISS MADE MADE THAT SOUND EARLIER. NO, I, SO I I HAVE A QUESTION. UM, 20 20 21 THEY WERE ALLOCATED 61,000 AND THEY USED 13 SEVEN, IS THAT RIGHT? YES. AND WHAT ABOUT BEFORE THAT? SO BEFORE THAT IT WAS A DIFFERENT AGENCY THAT MANAGED IT. OH, THAT'S RIGHT. AND THEY ONLY HAD IT FROM 2018. LET SEE, 2020 AND THEN LOVE NETWORK TOOK IT OVER. I MEAN, BRAC DISSOLVED LIKE IN JULY OF LAST YEAR. SO THEY KIND OF TOOK THIS OVER LAST YEAR WITHOUT REALLY KNOWING ANYTHING. SO, UM, BUT YEAH, WELL SUE, I WOULD BE IN FAVOR OF FUNDING THEM BECAUSE I THINK IT'S A, A PROGRAM THAT A, SOME PEOPLE DO NEED IN OUR COMMUNITY. I'M NOT SURE ABOUT THEIR REQUEST FOR 66 7. WELL, YOU ALSO HAVE TO, UM, THINK TOO, GO LINE BY LINE. KNOCK IT OUT. I MEAN IN THE CURRENT REQUEST THAT THEY, AND THE REQUEST THAT THEY SUBMITTED FOR THE FIRST QUARTER AND SALARIES WAS AROUND $4,000 AND THAT WAS FOR A QUARTER. SO IN FOUR QUARTERS, GOING BACK TO THAT 16 K, SO DOESN'T HAVE TO BE EITHER 25, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN, YOU CAN REDUCE THAT OR MAYBE MAKE IT 20 OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE EXACTLY WHAT THEY'RE REQUESTING. Y'ALL HAVE THE POWER, WE CAN JUST GIVE YOU INFORMATION AND INFORMATION IS POWERED. SO WE'RE ALSO POWERFUL. OH IT IS. POWER POSTAGE IS ALSO $500. I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH A FOUR RIVER STAMP IS RIGHT NOW. THREE. I WAS THINKING THAT CARD. SORRY. THREE, FIVE OR SOMETHING. THREE SEVEN. ENOUGH . BUT SOMETIMES IT DOES COST BECAUSE, UH, JUST SPEAKING FROM EXPERIENCE, WHENEVER YOU, WHENEVER I, AT LEAST I DON'T KNOW HOW THEY DO IT. BUT WHENEVER I WOULD UM, QUALIFY A PERSON FOR THE PROGRAM, I WOULD SEND THEM THEIR WELCOME PACKET. I'D SEND THEM OUR GUIDELINES. I SEND THEM HARRIS COUNTY RIDES GUIDELINES. I SEND 'EM HARRIS COUNTY TRANSIT GUIDELINES. I'D SEND THEM ALL OF THE ROUTE, THE TRANSIT ROUTES IN BAYTOWN. SO IT'S A BIGGER PACKET. IT'S NOT LIKE A REGULAR LETTER, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? POST. YEAH. THAT WOULD, THAT COST A LITTLE BIT MORE IN THE FRONT END WHENEVER YOU FIRST GET THEM ON THERE. BUT THEN IT'S JUST A MATTER OF MAILING THEM THEIR BUS PASS EVERY MONTH. WHAT ABOUT ADVERTISEMENT? I DON'T, I HAD A QUESTION ABOUT, BECAUSE YOU DON'T SEE A FLY. YEAH, I DON'T SEE A, I MEAN I JUST IS THE WORD, WHERE DOES THE PERSON APPLY? WHERE DO YOU, YOU THAT'S WHERE, I MEAN, $200 IS NOT MUCH, BUT [00:40:01] IT'S STILL $200 IN PRETTY MUCH. HOW ARE THEY GETTING THE WORD OUT OF THE, THE, THEY JUST, IT'S WORD OF MOUTH. ARE THE INDIVIDUALS, ARE THEY TELLING HIM THEY HAVE TO DO TO SPREAD THE WORD? THE DO WE DO THE SAME CUSTOMERS COME BACK YEAR AFTER YEAR AFTER YEAR UNTIL SOMETHING HAPPENS? YEAH. IT'S NOT THAT THEY COME BACK. ONCE YOU'RE IN, YOU'RE IN. ONCE YOU MOVE IN, UNLESS YOU MOVE OUT OF BAYTOWN OR YOU PASS AWAY OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. WHAT ARE THE, WHAT ARE, WHAT ARE THE CHANCES OF NEW PEOPLE COMING IN? HOW OFTEN DO THEY GET DENIED FROM NOT HAVING THESE SERVICES? WELL, IT ALL DEPENDS IF THEY'RE OVER INCOME. IF THEY DON'T LIVE WITHIN CITY LIMITS, THOSE ARE THE MAIN THINGS. YOU HAVE TO BE ELDERLY OR DISABLED OR A VICTIM OF SEXUAL OR DOMESTIC VIOLENCE, YOU HAVE TO BE WITHIN THE INCOME LIMITS AND YOU HAVE TO LIVE WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS BASED AS LONG AS YOU MEET THOSE REQUIREMENTS. THERE SHOULD BE NO REASON WHY YOU WOULD BE DENIED IF THEY ALREADY HAVE 104 AND THEN THEY, THEY'RE ONLY ASKING FOR, THEY ONLY HAVE AN OPENING FOR A FEW MONTHS. YOU'RE SAYING THEY WANNA INCREASE TO ONE 15. ONE 15. SO NOW LOOK AT THE NUMBERS AND SEE FOUR. SO HOW DO WE CUT THESE NUMBERS? THAT'S ONLY YOU EVER GAVE 11 PEOPLE TAX PRICES ARE GOING UP. SO YOU KNOW THEIR COST IS GONNA BE GOING UP. $200 IS NOT GONNA GET THEIR CLIENTS MUCH OF THIS DAY AND AGE, REGARDLESS OF WHAT MORE TRANSPORTATION THEY USE OR THE COMPANY YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT FOR THE TAXI. AND THEN AGAIN, YOU HAVE TO PLAN FOR THE WHOLE FISCAL YEAR, RIGHT? SO WHAT GAS PRICES MAY BE HIGH. NOW WHO KNOWS WHAT THEY'LL LIKE THIS TIME NEXT YEAR, THE FISCAL YEAR DURING THAT, WE STILL GOT SEVEN MORE TO GO. I KNOW. SO, OKAY, SO WHAT DO WE WANNA, DO? YOU WANNA COME BACK TO THIS ONE? NO, LET'S JUST KNOCK IT OUT. WE'LL COME. OKAY, SO I KNOW MR. VINCENT WAS DOING MATH EARLIER. PUT OUT A NUMBER 36 FOR WHICH? FOR CLIENT SERVICES? TOTAL FOR THE WHOLE THING. I WAS GONNA SAY 4 66. OKAY, HOW ABOUT, WELL YOU SAYING 60 IF WE SAY 36, RIGHT, WE SAY 36, THEN THEY'RE ASKING 25,000 FOR SALARIES. BUT SHE SAID IT FOR THE WHOLE THING, NOT JUST FOR OH YES, BUT I'M JUST SAYING GOING LINE BY. SO YOU DO SALARIES, WAGES, AND BENEFITS 25 AND 36. SO THAT'S ANOTHER 11,000. 11,000 FOR CLIENT SERVICES SAYING BACK FOR $40 A MONTH FOR $40 A QUARTER. AND THEN ALSO THE MONEY THAT THEY FOUND ON RIGHTS CARDS. SO YOU'RE MAKING THEM CHOOSE BETWEEN SALARY, WAGES AND BENEFITS OR CLIENT SERVICES. THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE GONNA COME BACK TO YOU. THEY HAVE OTHER MEANS OF FUNDS TO PAY FOR THEIR SALARIES. I'M SURE IT'S ONE EMPLOYEES ARE DOING, YOU KNOW, IT'S ONE EMPLOYEE. THAT'S WHY I BELIEVE THAT THE LAST QUARTER'S SALARY REQUEST WAS ABOUT $4,200 ISH OR SOMETHING. OR WAS SOMETHING LIKE THAT. I REMEMBER FROM WHAT I'M SAYING HERE, IT'S ONLY $3,000 THIS TIME. THEY'RE KIND OF RELYING ON US FOR THE SALARY BILL. SO I GUESS THE ONLY THING WE HAVE LEFT TO CHEW DOWN ON IS THE 40 GRAND. IF WE'RE GONNA CUT DOWN ANYTHING, YOU COULD STILL CUT DOWN ON SALARY. I MEAN THAT'S, THAT'S POSSIBLE TO DO. SO YOU SAID BEFORE IT WAS 4,201 QUARTER, THEIR SALARY REQUEST WAS AROUND 4,201 QUARTER. IT'S WORTH NOTING AS WELL FOR THE CLIENT SERVICES. UM, IT'S UH, HARRIS COUNTY TRANSIT PROVIDES A MATCH. SO IF WE DECREASE IT 10,000, THEN THEY'LL DECREASE IT 10,000 TOO. SO INSTEAD OF 80 IT'S EFFECTIVELY 60. SO ANY THOUGHTS? THAT'S MY ONLY THOUGHT. MY ONLY THOUGHT IS LIKE IF WE GO WITH A NUMBER LOPEZ, THAT JUST EIGHT 32,000 YOU FORCING, YOU FORCING THEM TO CHOOSE BETWEEN SALARIES OR CLIENT SERVICES AND THEY'LL COME BACK AND SAY DUE TO CIRCUMSTANCES WE HAVE TO CUT BACK ON THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE. THAT'S HOW IRON IN, IN INTERPRETING IT. UM, BUT WE ALSO SAY THAT THIS, THE REQUEST FOR THESE FUNDS SHOULDN'T BE THE ONLY THING THAT WE'RE COUNTING ON. [00:45:03] SO I TOO DRASTIC BUT I CUT AND HALF IS A LOT BUT YOU KNOW, FROM 66 IS, YOU KNOW, CUT SOMEWHERE SIGNIFICANT BUT NOT SIGNIFICANT ENOUGH TO WHERE THEY CAN'T FUNCTION. ANYBODY ELSE IN AGREEMENT? YEAH, WE CAN WHAT'S THE NUMBER? 50? LET'S ROLLING 50 FOR NOW. OKAY. YAY. JUST A GENERAL NUMBER. NO JUICE. HMM. IT WAS JUST A GENERAL NUMBER. NOT LIKE A SPECIFIC JUST ENROLLED. SORRY. NEW SHADE. THAT'S TAB NUMBER SEVEN. YEAH, I THINK THEY SPEND ALL OF THE MONEY. YEAH. AND THIS YEAR SHE SAID THEY WERE PARTNERING WITH SAME AS FOOTWEAR. UM, THIS IS THE SHOES. YEAH. SO THEY SAID YOU KNOW, THEY'RE GONNA HAVE AN EMPLOYEE PREVIOUSLY THE FAMOUS FOOTWEAR, RIGHT? CORRECT. SO THEY'RE BASICALLY ASKING FOR 15 GRAND FOR THE SHOES. IT'S APPROXIMATELY 30 STUDENTS. I THINK IT'S A TYPO. I HAVE TO THINK THAT'S A TYPO. YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I WAS SAYING. THINK IT'S, I THINK IT'S 300 BECAUSE THAT'S NORMALLY WHAT THEY SERVE. IN THE WORKSHEET THING THEY DID PUT OVER 300 TOO. YEAH, JUST A TYPO. AND THAT. AND THAT'S JUST HITTING THE SURFACE OF THOSE SHOES BECAUSE THERE'S REALLY A LOT MORE KIDS THAT ARE NEEDING THAT HELP. AND UNFORTUNATELY NOT ALL THE SCHOOLS GOT CHOSEN OR OFFERED THE, THEY DIDN'T ONLY BE TITLE ONE. YEAH, EVERYBODY I KNOW THE TITLE WAS. OKAY, SO ARE WE IN AGREEMENT WITH 17 GRAND ON THIS ONE? PRETTY SIMPLE TO MOVE FORWARD. I LIKE PERFECT. 17 GRAND. WHAT'S NEXT MA? YOU WANT ANY STIPULATIONS ON IT? THEY DID BREAK IT UP INTO TWO CATEGORIES. THEY STARTED IN THE FALL AND THEN THEY WENT AHEAD AND DID A NEW PROGRAM IN THE SPRING. BUT IT WAS TWO DIFFERENT ENTITIES. ENTITIES. AND THIS FALL THEY DID IT BY COUNSELORS. YEAH. AND I NO, THAT WAS THE SPRING. NO, THAT WAS THE THE SPRING. YEAH, THAT THAT'S WHAT I SHE'S GOING TO THE THEY DIDN'T GET ADVERTISED. THEY'RE DIDN'T GO BY THE, INSTEAD OF GOING STRAIGHT TO THE DISTRICT, WE GO BACK TO THE COUNSELORS AND SEE, TELL ME WHICH IS WHY THEY ONLY GOT NINE PEOPLE. YEAH. THAT'S WHY THEY ONLY GOT, SO I THINK IT'S FOR THE, IF THE SMART MOVE IS TO GO TO THE COUNSELORS AND SAY, TELL ME WHO YOU HAVE BECAUSE THEY, THEY'RE GOING BY LAST YEAR'S KIDS AND THE YEARS BEFORE. SO THEY, COUNSELORS KNOW WHO, I THINK IT'S BETTER IF THEY JUST ADVERTISE IT LIKE THEY, LIKE IT HAD BEEN DONE IN THE PAST WHERE THEY HAVE A FLYER AND THEY TELL PEOPLE WHAT'S REQUIRED OF THEM BECAUSE THIS IS ONE OF OUR BIG MONEY ONES AND IT DID NOT DO WELL LAST I THEY DIDN'T LOSE, DIDN'T USE LAST YEAR. THEY ONLY SPENT, UM, THEY DIDN'T HAVE ENOUGH THAN $116 OUTTA THE 15,000 THEY WERE ALLOCATED. WAS THERE EXPLANATION GIVEN WHAT, SAY AGAIN? WAS THERE AN EXPLANATION GIVEN TO WHY THEY HAD JUST TAKEN OVER THE PROGRAM IN JULY? SAME AS THE TRANSPORTATION THEY HAD JUST TAKEN OVER THE PROGRAM. SO I THINK THEY WERE PREVIOUSLY SOURCED ASSISTANCE THE SAME, THE SAME ORGANIZATION THAT FOLDED SINCE THEY GOT THE OTHER PROGRAMS FROM ONE TIME THEY GOT A COUPLE PROGRAMS. SO, UM, IT'S JUST SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT. 'CAUSE LAST YEAR THEY REQUESTED IT WAS 12,000. I THINK IT WAS. SORRY, GOING BACK TO MS. BO LOPEZ AND REPORT. THEY NEED TO GO TO THE COUNSELORS VERSUS JUST GIVING IT TO THEM. EVERYBODY HAS TOO MUCH TO DO. JUST GIVE IT TO THEIR SOURCES THAT ARE RESPONSIBLE AND GIVE IT TO THE PARENTS. PARENTS KNOW WHY AND COUNSELORS NOTE DIDN'T. SHE STILL HAS TO. I MEAN THEY CAN ASK THE COUNSELORS LIKE WHO HAS THE GREATEST NEED, BUT DOESN'T THE FAMILY STILL HAVE TO GO AND APPLY? YES, THEY DO. LIKE, IT'S NOT UP TO THE COUNSELOR, RIGHT? IT'S UP TO THE PARENTS. PARENTS STILL HAVE TO GO SELECTING OH'S NOT GOOD BECAUSE ISN'T OUR WHOLE DISTRICT LIKE PRACTICALLY COULD USE SOME [00:50:01] SHOES. UM, I'D LIKE TO SAY THAT I, AT THE MEETING HE BROUGHT UP MAYBE USING THE FUNDS TO BUY LESS EXPENSIVE SHOES. THEY'RE STILL NEW AND THEY'RE STILL, YOU KNOW, BRAND NEW, BUT THEY'RE LIKE NOT NIKE OR ADIDAS OR WHATEVER. UM, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY BUY RIGHT NOW. THEY DON'T BUY ANY. THEY WHAT THE WAY IT USED TO WORK IS WHEN JC PENNEY WAS OPEN, THEY WOULD GIVE PARENTS A, A VOUCHER THAT WAS GOOD FOR UP TO FIVE $50 PER SHOES. SO THE PARENT REALLY GOT TO CHOOSE IF YOU WANTED TO BUY TWO $25 SHOES OR IF YOU WANNA BUY 50 SHOE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. AND IF IT COST MORE THAN THE 50, THEN THE PARENTS WOULD PAY THE DIFFERENCE. AND THAT'S STILL THE SAME THOUGH, RIGHT? I WROTE DOWN $50 BECAUSE JC PENNEY'S CLOSED AND NO ONE ELSE WILL TAKE VOUCHERS 50. SAME AS FAR AS FOR DOLLARS FILED CHILDREN. SO THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO POST UP AT SHAMUS FOOTWEAR AND WHENEVER THE PEOPLE COME AND BUY STUFF, THE PEOPLE THEY APPROVE, THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO GO AND SWIPE THEIR CARD AT THE REGISTER. SO HOW MANY TIMES ARE THEY GONNA DO THAT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY REACH THEIR GOAL? RIGHT? I THINK SHE SAID THEY WERE GONNA HAVE A DESIGNATED TIME. THEY WERE GONNA DO THAT. RIGHT. SO EVERYBODY GONNA SHOW UP THERE AT THE SAME TIME AND SHE'S JUST CHECKING THEM OUT. YOU WERE SUPPOSED TO BE HERE AT FIVE 30. SIR, WERE YOU HERE AT THE DESIGNATED TIME? I THINK ONCE YOU'RE VOLUNTEERING YOU GET A POUND FOR EVERYTHING. PLUS I'M SO GOOD LOOKING . I WEREN'T SURE SIMON WITH THE AMOUNT THAT THEY DIDN'T USE LAST YEAR. I THINK THAT'S WEIGHING, YOU KNOW, A LOT ON ME AND ALSO THAT THE OTHER FUNDS IS ONLY GIVING 10 K. UH, WHY DON'T WE JUST MATCH WITH OTHER, SAY THAT AGAIN. OTHER FUNDING SOURCES. OH, I SEE, I SEE. WE'RE ONLY GIVING 10 K UH, FOR THE CLIENT SERVICES. UM, SO YOU, YOU WANT GIVE UH, 10 K TO THE CLIENT SERVICES SRO? YEAH. SO FOR A TOTAL OF HOW MUCH? 12 12 12 K. SEVEN. SEVEN. SO A LITTLE, A LITTLE MATH FOR Y'ALL. UM, 30,000 FOR CLIENT SERVICES RIGHT, IS WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE. AND THAT $50 A PAIR OF SHOES, THAT'S 600 SHOES, BUT WE ONLY COUNT WHAT WITH CDG WE ONLY COUNT WHAT WE THINK, RIGHT? NO, I'M JUST 600, 600 PAIRS OF SHOES IS NOT A PAIR OF SHOES. ARE THEY GONNA BE ABLE TO FILL 600 PAIR OF SHOES? I THINK IN THE PAST THEY'VE TOLD US THAT THERE'S ALWAYS LIKE, THEY KIND OF HAVE RUN OUT, I THINK VOUCHERS WHEN THEY HAD VOUCHERS. DIDN'T THEY SAY THAT IN THE PAST? THIS WAS, THIS PAST YEAR WAS THE FIRST TIME THAT THEY MANAGED THE PROGRAM. SO THE PEOPLE WHO MANAGED THE PROGRAM IN THE PAST NOT LOVE NETWORK. YEAH, RIGHT. THEY JUST STARTED MANAGING IT LAST YEAR. SO I'M ALMOST LIKE, LET'S SEE WHAT THEY CAN DO. I JUST FEEL LIKE THERE'S SUCH A NEED AS FAR AS SCHOOL CHILDREN AND NEW SHOES. THERE IS, I AGREE THAT, BUT YOU ALSO HAVE TO THINK IF THEY DON'T QUALIFY TO USE OUR FUNDS, THEY GOT 20 MORE THOUSAND SITTING OVER HERE OFF TO THE SIDE, SO THEY'LL BE ABLE TO FILL THE NEED. I DEFINITELY SEE YOUR POINT VINCENT THOUGH, THAT WE HAVEN'T DONE A GREAT JOB OF OF USING THAT ONE JUST IN THIS PREVIOUS YEARS. YEAH. IT'S BEEN TAKEN OVER BY A NEW RIGHT BY LOVE NETWORK. SO IT'S ALMOST LIKE WE WANT TO KEEP THAT ALLOCATION THE SAME IF WE DON'T KNOW THEY'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO. RIGHT. I AGREE. SO EVERYBODY'S GOOD WITH 12. LOOKING AT THE, THE ADVERTISING AS WELL. YOU'LL NOTICE THERE'S ZERO ALLOCATED FROM CDPG AND ONLY 50 FROM ANOTHER FUNDING SOURCE. RIGHT. WHAT ARE YOU DOING TO $50 ADVERTISEMENT? OKAY, SO WHAT ARE WE, WE DO A TOTAL OF 12 AT ONCE. SO PROJECT BRIDGE CHILDCARE FOR HOMELESS CHILDREN THAT LIVE IN THE SHELTER. TAB NUMBER THREE. THANK YOU. BOBBY. EXCUSE RIGHT BACK. THREE. THREE. YES MA'AM. IS THAT ACTUALLY THREE? OKAY. TAB THREE. OKAY, SO THIS ONE WAS THE BAY AREA HOMELESS SHELTER, THE, UH, DAYCARE. OH YEAH, THEY HAD REQUESTED 4,000 I BELIEVE. YEAH. 4,000. UM, I SEE A TREND UNDER USAGE, RIGHT? WELL AS, AS A NOTE, I MEAN THEY HAVEN'T BEEN REFUNDED OR ANYTHING, BUT THEY HAVE REPORTED THAT THEY'VE USED BOTH OF THEIR FUNDING SO FAR. SO THEY JUST HAVEN'T APPLIED FOR IT TO GET REMOVED YET. WELL IF THAT'S TRUE, THAT'S A SIGNIFICANT IMPROVEMENT FROM THE LAST TWO YEARS. [00:55:02] YEAH, PERCENT AND 18%. SO IF YOU LOOK ON THE, THE BLUE PAGE GUYS, UM, THE NOTES HERE FROM STAFF WAS OVER, UH, THE LAST SIX MONTHS, THEY SPENT AROUND 75% OF THEIR ANNUAL ALLOCATION ON THREE CHILDREN. OH, I REVIEWED THIS ONE. THAT'S WHY I REMEMBERED IT. YEAH. LIKE, BUT I, AND I THOUGHT YOU ASKED ABOUT THAT AT THE, AT THE MEETING WHEN THEY WERE THERE. I THOUGHT YOU ASKED ABOUT THAT. WHAT, HOW, HOW WOULD, DID THEY EXPLAIN THAT THEY, WHAT WHAT THEY SAID LOOKING AT MY NOTES WAS ALONG THE LINES OF, UM, THEY ALLOWED THOSE, THOSE CHILDREN TO GO FOR AN EXTENDED PERIOD OF TIME WHEN THEY TYPICALLY MOVING FORWARD, THEY'RE LOOKING TO PUT A CAP ON TWO WEEKS FOR THEM. THAT'S WHAT THEY DISCUSSED. NO, I MEAN I THINK IT'S, IT'S AN IMPORTANT SERVICE. IF YOU'RE, YOU WANNA TO FIND A JOB TO GET BACK ON YOUR FEET AND YOU HAVE KIDS, WHAT DO WE DO WITH THEM? RIGHT. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT. IT'S DEFINITELY AN IMPORTANT SERVICE. I JUST HAVE AN ISSUE WITH THEM. NOT REALLY. YES. USING, WELL THIS ONE IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT FROM SOME OF THE OTHER ONES. IT SEEMS LIKE MARKETING AND ADVERTISING IS SOMETHING THAT KEEPS GETTING BROUGHT UP. THIS ONE'S FOR, FOR HOMELESS. IT'S NOT LIKE YOU GO OUT AND YOU ADVERTISE WITH HOMELESS, YOU HAVE A HOMELESS AND YOU HAVE KIDS UNDER FIVE. COME STAY HERE AND WE'LL PAY FOR YOUR CHILDCARE. SO IT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT IS WHY I THINK THIS YEAR THEY USED IT. LAST YEAR THEY DIDN'T. AND ALSO LAST YEAR, UM, 2020, THERE WAS THE DISCLAIMER FOR EVERYTHING. I MEAN IT'S ONLY, IT'S FOUR GRAND. I'M OKAY WITH THE FOUR GRAND. YEAH, IT IS NOT LIKE THAT. I'M OKAY WITH THAT. 4,000. ALRIGHT. AND NOW EVERYBODY, UM, CAN TURN TO TAB FOUR FOR THE BAYTOWN OPTIMIST CLUB FOOTBALL PROGRAM. WOO HOO. OUR FAVOR. YEAH. I NEED MORE TRANSPARENCY WITH THE ACCOUNTING. YES. UM, WHAT THEY SAYING THAT THEY CHARGE OR, OR WHAT THE, UM, FEE WAS FOR THE PLAYERS AND HOW MANY PLAYERS THEY HAVE, THE NUMBERS DON'T MATCH WHAT THE SIGNUPS ARE. WHAT, RIGHT. UM, SO WHERE'S THE REST OF THAT MONEY GOING? I SAID THAT WE'RE DOING AN AVERAGE OF 300 SIGNUPS. MM-HMM . $120 FEE. MM-HMM . THAT'S LIKE 36 GRAND. MM-HMM . I HAVE 2020 SIGNUPS AT ABOUT 12. UH, ALSO IN, IN LOOKING AT SOME OF THEIR OTHER FINANCIAL STATEMENTS THAT WERE SUBMITTED AND I DON'T KNOW, HE DID MONTHLY STATEMENTS AND YOU HAVE FEBRUARY INCOME, MARCH INCOME, THE NUMBERS DIDN'T CHANGE, THE MONTHS CHANGE. SO I DON'T KNOW. IT JUST DOESN'T REALLY, AND BECAUSE THEY'RE SUCH A SMALL ORGANIZATION, THEY DON'T GET AN ACTUAL AUDIT DONE. YEAH. SO IT'S NOBODY, NOBODY GIVES US THIS. THERE'S NO CHECKS AND BALANCES. THAT'S COMING FROM AN EX OPTIMIST FOOTBALL PLAYER I PLAYED IN, TONY WAS HERE. HE'D TELL YOU HE DID TOO. SO , I KNOW THAT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS BROUGHT UP AT THE MEETING ALSO WAS, UM, THEIR SELECTIVENESS ON WHO GETS A SCHOLARSHIP. LIKE THEY SELECT WHO THEY'RE GONNA SPEAK WITH. INSTEAD OF YOU JUST SAYING, HEY, THIS, I DON'T LIKE THAT ONE PERSON CONTROL THING. YOU KNOW, I DON'T, I MEAN, IT'S GOT TO BE THE ONLY PERSON BESIDES, YOU KNOW, YAY OR NAY OR, AND THEN YOU REALLY DON'T LOOK AT THE APPLICATION AND WAY THINGS OUT, YOU KNOW, THE KIDS AND THE PARENTS AND, AND THE LANGUAGES AND THE, YOU KNOW, THE DIVERSITY AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF. I, OR HAVE THEY THOUGHT ABOUT DOING A PROGRAM? MAYBE A REDUCTION IN THE FEE COSTS BASED ON THE INCOME OF THE PARENTS. MAYBE HAVE, YOU KNOW, PARENTS DON'T MAKE OPEN SALARY ONE, AT LEAST ONE GOOD THING ABOUT THEM IS THAT THEIR ENTIRE REQUEST IS FOR SCHOLARSHIPS. SO YOU CAN REALLY JUST DECIDE, UM, HOW MANY KIDS TO GET SCHOLARSHIPS. BECAUSE RIGHT NOW IT'S 35 KIDS AT $120, WHICH WAS AT 42. BUT I KNOW THAT FOR YEARS AND YEARS, UM, WE'VE HAD THE ISSUE WITH HIM ON NOT ADVERTISING IT PROPERLY. AND THIS COULD JUST BE ONE OF THOSE THINGS TO WHERE WE, MAYBE Y'ALL DON'T FULLY FUND HIM, BUT ALSO PUT IN THE CAVEAT TO WHERE, YOU KNOW, YOU NEED TO BE MORE OPEN ABOUT THE SCHOLARSHIP INSTEAD OF HAVING ONE-ON-ONES WITH PEOPLE. BUT EVERYONE NOT, I MEAN, IT'S ON THE FLYER. YES. BUT THERE'S NO INFORMATION TO INQUIRE ABOUT THE SCHOLARSHIP OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. SO MAYBE THAT COULD BE SOMETHING THAT WE'RE GONNA LOSE FREIGHT SOON, [01:00:01] GUYS. NO, I WANTED TO HEAR WHAT YOU WANTED TO DO. . NO, THAT'S WHY ALL THE FLYER PUT ASTERISK OVER FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE AVAILABLE FOR THOSE WHO QUALIFY. WHAT EXACTLY DOES THAT MEAN? AS FAR AS THEY'RE GOING TO, YES. ARE THEY GOING TO RAVE THE FEE OR THEY GOING TO, ARE THEY GOING TO MENTALITY? FOOTBALL EQUIPMENT IS SUCH A BROAD STATEMENT. FALL ON ANY AND HOW DO YOU QUALIFY? JUST HAVE TO RUN A MILE AND DO THE SAME KIDS COME, KEEP ON COMING BACK YEAR AFTER YEAR AFTER YEAR. I MEAN, I MEAN IF, OKAY. YOU WERE NOT, SOME KIDS DO. I PLAYED. SO YOU WERE AN OPTIMA. SO DID YOU, IF YOU WERE CHOSEN WHEN YOU WERE IN, UH, WHAT, LET'S SAY THIRD GRADE, DID YOU, FOURTH GRADE, WERE YOU AUTOMATICALLY, DID THEY WEREN YOU FOR FIFTH GRADE, SIXTH GRADE? YOU KNOW, THAT KIND OF STUFF. I KNOW BACK WHEN I WAS PLAYING, IT WASN'T LIKE CHOSEN. IT WAS JUST MORE SO OUR PARENTS BRINGING US DOWN. THEY KNEW ABOUT THE , THINGS LIKE THAT. UH, I KNOW WE RETURNED, I, I RETURNED BECAUSE IT WAS WITH MY SCHOOL. IT WAS LIKE THE JUNIOR HIGH. I WASN'T OLD ENOUGH TO PLAY SEVENTH GRADE FOOTBALL. SO I STARTED IN, IN, UM, FIFTH GRADE AND PLAYED THROUGH SEVENTH GRADE. THAT WAS JUST OUR, YOU KNOW, BEFORE WE GOT TO JUNIOR TO PLAY. BUT, UH, SCHOOL, MY, MY QUESTION WAS, DO DIFFERENT KIDS GET DIFFERENT, AN OPPORTUNITY TO PLAY THE FOLLOWING YEAR INSTEAD OF THE SCHOLARSHIP? SAME. INSTEAD THE SAME. SAME. YOU KNOW, BECAUSE I, LET'S SAY YOU GOT IT, YOU WERE IN FIFTH GRADER AND THEN YOU WERE SUPER GOOD. SO YEAH, I WANT YOU BACK IN SIXTH GRADE. I WANT YOU BACK IN SEVENTH GRADE. YOU KNOW, BECAUSE I'M GOING TO, YOU KNOW, BUT DO YOU GET OTHER KIDS AN OPPORTUNITY? I THINK THOUGHT YOU SAID THEY DON'T TURN ANYONE AWAY. I'M SORRY. I THINK BY SEVENTH, EIGHTH GRADE KIDS ARE PLAYING FOR SCHOOL BECAUSE SCHOOLS USUALLY HAVE AN, THAT'S RIGHT. THAT'S RIGHT. YEAH. SO I THINK THEY KIND OF AGE OUTER GRADE OUT BY SEVENTH GRADE. BECAUSE IN SIXTH GRADE THERE IS NO ORGANIZED BASKETBALL. IT IT'S ELEMENTARY THEN. YES, IT'S JUST ELEMENTARY. AND I THINK UNTIL THEN TO DO IT. AS FAR AS YOUR QUESTION, I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW. SO NOW IT'S JUST A DECISION IF YOU WANT TO FULLY FUND HIM, IF YOU WANT TO FOREGO FUNDING HIM, OR IF YOU WANT TO REDUCE THE AMOUNT THAT HE'S REQUESTED, JUST BEAR IN MIND THAT WHATEVER WE REDUCE IT BY SHOULD BE DIVIDABLE BY 120. THAT WAY WE CAN KNOW HOW MANY KIDS WOULD GET SCHOLARSHIPS. SO THE 4,200 IS FOR A HUNDRED? NO, 35, 30 KIDS. KIDS. NOT VERY MANY. LAST YEAR WE GAVE THEM NOTHING. WELL, IN THE CURRENT YEAR THEY HAVE NOTHING. 'CAUSE WHERE DOES 25 COME OUT? 25. 20 KIDS. 25 KIDS. 25 KIDS VERSUS 30. HOW MUCH FOR 25? 3000 THOUSAND VERSUS 4,000 DOES AGREE WITH 3000. DISAGREE WITH THREE AND 3000 VERSUS FOUR. ANY THOUGHTS? SO WE WALK, ARE THESE CHECKS THAT I'M SEEING BACK HERE? I SEE SOME OF 'EM LIKE FOR ONE 20 AND STUFF LIKE THAT. OR IS THE, IS THAT WHAT THEY'RE ACTUALLY, IS THAT THE KIDS THAT THEY ARE ACTUALLY SPONSORING OR I DUNNO, HOW DO WE KNOW THAT THAT AMOUNT OF KIDS ARE ACTUALLY GETTING SPONSORED? FROM WHAT I SEE, THERE'S NO WAY TO KNOW. EVEN IF THESE KIDS ARE GETTING SPONSORED AND WHEN THEY SUBMIT THEIR REIMBURSEMENT REQUESTS, ALL THEY REALLY SUBMIT IS THE APPLICATION AND THE SUPPORTING DOCUMENTS. OKAY. AND THAT'S IT. BECAUSE THEY DON'T ACTUALLY PAY ANYTHING OUT OF POCKET. THEY JUST FOREGO ACCEPTING PAYMENT. SO, SO THESE PEOPLE, LIKE THE PARENTS AREN'T PAYING IT FOR THE SCHOLARSHIP CHILDREN, THE PARENTS AREN'T PAYING ANYTHING, RIGHT? I DON'T KNOW. I SEE MONEY GOING FROM BAYTOWN OPTIMUS TO BAYTOWN. OPTIMUS OR, SO I REMEMBER YOU QUESTIONED A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, THE CASH ONES JUST MADE OUT TO CASH. I MEAN LIKE THIS, I'M LOOKING AT, IT SAYS BAYTOWN YOUTH FOOTBALL AND IT'S PAYABLE TO BAYTOWN OPERATE BAYTOWN OPTIMIST OPERATIONS. BUT THAT GOES TOWARDS THE FUNDING OF THE YEAH, LIKE A CONCESSION STANDS, THE LIKE THE TROPHIES, THINGS OF THAT NATURE. UM, HERE FOR CASH FOR SIX. WE DIDN'T FUND THEM LAST YEAR. SO DID HE WANT TO REDUCE THE AMOUNT? SEE HOW HE, DOES THE REASON GO FROM THERE OR [01:05:01] NOT FUND HIM THE REASON WHY WE DID NOT FUND HIM AND AT ALL FOR YEARS AND YEARS AND YEARS AND PREVIOUS YEARS BEFORE ASKING, UH, WHAT'S HIS NAME? ALL THE APPLICATION PUT PUT ON THE PRIOR AND WE CANNOT AFFORD THE FOOTBALL EQUIPMENT THAT THEY WOULDN'T END THEM OUT THAT FORM OF A SCHOLARSHIP. WE'VE BEEN ASKING. SO LAST YEAR WAS THE , WE HAD ENOUGH, WE NEED TO SEND THEM A MESSAGE KIND OF THING. THAT WHY WE WERE ALLOWED FOR THE VERY LITTLE OF HUNDRED WAS 12. IT WAS MORE TO SAY DOMESTIC THAN IT BEEN YEARS AND YEARS AND YEARS. THERE WAS NO NO CDC EVER ASKED WAS THAT THEY ADVERTISED THAT THEY HAD A SCHOLARSHIP MM-HMM . AND THEY NEVER DID. SO, UH, AND NOW THEY HAVE ADVERTISED IF THEY HAVE A SCHOLARSHIP COME BACK. I HAVE NO IDEA. SEE, I CAN SEE THAT HAPPENING. I WOULD HAVE TO LOOK AT THE ALL THIRD GRADE, FOURTH GRADE. DIDN'T THE DO THE BOARD ALSO ASKED THAT HE UPDATE HIS PICTURES? YES. YEAH. STILL HASN'T HIS PICTURES. I DON'T KNOW IF Y'ALL NOTICE, BUT THE PICTURES HE WAS SHOWING WERE 20 16, 20 THAT WE KNOW MR. VINCENT PLAYED. WE MIGHT SEE PICTURES OF HIM UP THERE. HE MIGHT HAVE BEEN IN THAT PICTURE. SEE ME UP. I DUNNO. ALRIGHT, SO MS. DALIA SAID IN HALF THOUSAND DOLLARS OR NOT AT ALL, 27 SCHOLARSHIPS. WELL, THAT WASN'T TWO AND HALF. WE CAN'T HAVE IT BECAUSE IT'S FOR 35 KIDS. SO IT'D BE A LITTLE OFF HAVING IT. SO YOU HAVE TO SUGGEST 20 KIDS AT 120, WHICH WOULD BE 2,400. WHAT ROLE WAS THAT? SOME OPPORTUNITIES MISSING HOW THEY WORK WITH IT. COMMUNITIES AND SCHOOLS. VIRTUAL JOB READINESS TRAINING PROGRAM. DID YOU WANT ANY, I'M SORRY TO KEEP ASKING THIS, BUT DID Y'ALL WANT ANY STIPULATIONS ON THAT ONE? NO. ONEONE MEETINGS. WHAT? NO ONE-ON-ONE WITH SCHOLARSHIP RECIPIENTS. LET IT BE WIDELY KNOWN. INSTEAD OF PICKING AND CHOOSING WHO RECEIVES A SCHOLARSHIP. HE SAID 20. SO HE SAID, SORRY, 24. OH, HE SAID HE HAD A, HE HAS A BOARD, BUT HE'S THE ONLY ONE THAT ACTUALLY TALKS TO THEM. IS THAT RIGHT? YEAH. DID HE SAY WHY? I BELIEVE IT WAS SOMETHING ALONG THE LINES OF ANNA. UM, HE WAS THE ONLY ONE THAT KNEW, UM, WOLF OF SCHOLARSHIP RECIPIENT. WHAT IT TOOK IN ORDER TO, IT WAS A NUMBER, NOT A NAME. MEET OUR REQUIREMENTS. AND TO, WHICH I WOULD SAY, AND I HAVEN'T TALKED TO SHARON ABOUT THIS, BUT WE COULD TRAIN PEOPLE OVER THERE. SO IT WOULD BE MORE THAN ONE PERSON. WE COULD HAVE HAVE, YOU KNOW, LIKE AN HOUR, TWO HOUR SESSION WITH AS MANY AS THEIR, THEIR CLUB MEMBERS AS THEY'D LIKE TO GO OVER WHAT IS REQUIRED, UM, TO MEET OUR, OUR NEEDS. WELL I'VE, I'VE HAD SCHOLARSHIP COMMITTEES AND, AND WE ALWAYS HAVE AT LEAST FOUR, YOU KNOW, FOUR OR FIVE PEOPLE. AND YES, WE ARE NUMBERS. ONCE WE PASS THIS, THE SCHOLARSHIP AROUND, WE VOTE ON WHICH ONE, YOU KNOW, PRIORITIZE. BUT IT'S A NU BUT IT'S, IT'S A GROUP OF US, AT LEAST FIVE OF US IN THE, THE COMMITTEE THAT DECIDE, YOU KNOW, THIS IS THE TOP ONE. YOU KNOW, 5, 4, 3, 2, 3 1. BASED ON THAT FIRST SOLUTION COULD BE NOT ONE ON ONE, NOT ONE ON ONE. IT SHOULD BE A COMMITTEE BASED COMMITTEE. YEAH, IT SHOULD BE COMMITTEE. BUT KIND OF LIKE THIS PERSON, THE LOCATION. I THINK, I THINK, I THINK, I THINK ANOTHER POINT HE WAS MAKING, HOW IS WAS THEY DIDN'T TURN ANYBODY AWAY. SO I THOUGHT HE SAID THAT. YEAH. SO IF, IF THEY CAME AND THEY NEEDED A SCHOLARSHIP AND THEY DIDN'T QUALIFY FOR CDBG GRANT, THEN THEY WOULD FIND MONEY SOMEWHERE ELSE. I THINK THAT WAS ALSO ONE OF THE REASONS WHY THE COMMITTEE IS NOT NECESSARY. ALRIGHT, SO COMMUNITIES AND SCHOOLS. VIRTUAL JOB READINESS TRAINING PROGRAM. TAB FIVE. I HAVE SEVERAL ISSUES WITH THIS. OKAY. AND ONE OF IT IS I DO NOT AGREE WITH SENDING KIDS TO THE WORKFORCE, SENDING THESE HIGH SCHOOL KIDS STRAIGHT INTO THE WORKFORCE. I BELIEVE THAT, IN MY OPINION, EDUCATION PLAYS A BIG PART IN MY LIFE. EVEN IF YOU SENT THE KIDS TO A COMMUNITY COLLEGE, A ONE YEAR DEGREE, MAYBE YOU PROVIDE 'EM WITH THE, [01:10:01] UM, WITH THE, UM, SUPPORTIVE SYSTEM. YOU WERE PAID EVERYTHING. THEY WERE IN THE HIGH SCHOOL AND HIGH SCHOOL GRADUATE. AND IF THEY FINISH ONE YEAR WITH A CERTIFICATE, THEY'RE MORE LIKELY TO GET AN ASSOCIATE'S DEGREE, WHICH IS HALFWAY. THEN WHO KNOWS? MAYBE THAT IS A SUCCESS SCHOOL, NOT SENDING THEM AND NOT HAVING ALUMNI ASSOCIATION WORK. WHO, UM, WILL WE HAVE THESE, UM, INDIVIDUALS WHO WORKING UP THE WORKFORCE? SO IF THIS INDIVIDUAL WAS A MANAGER, HE STARTED OFF NO LEVEL AND HE'S A MANAGER, WHY CAN'T WE HAVE ONE THAT SAYS, LOOK, HE HAS CEOS GRADUATED WITH OFFICE. WELL ONE OF THE REASONS THAT THEY STARTED THIS, 'CAUSE THIS ISN'T THE FIRST YEAR THAT THEY DID THIS PROGRAM. THEY DID IT TWO YEARS AGO. I BELIEVE IT WAS IN 2020. MM-HMM . UM, WAS BECAUSE THERE ARE A LOT OF PROGRAMS OUT THERE THAT ARE GEARED TOWARD KIDS THAT ARE GOING TO COLLEGE. BUT THERE WAS NOTHING FOR THAT IN BETWEEN THE ONES THAT HAVE NO INTEREST, PROBABLY GOING TO COLLEGE OR HAVE TO JOIN THE WORKFORCE RIGHT AWAY. AND WAIT, I MEAN, I'M GONNA TELL YOU NOW, I DIDN'T GET MY ASSOCIATES UNTIL I WAS, WHAT AM I, I'M 30 NOW, SO I WAS PROBABLY 25. I'M JOKING, BUT I DIDN'T GET MY ASSOCIATES UNTIL MY DAUGHTER WAS BORN. YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? SO, BECAUSE THAT WASN'T REALLY AN OPTION FOR ME. SO THE PURPOSE OF THIS IS NOT TO JUST PUSH KIDS AWAY FROM COLLEGE, BUT TO GET THE KIDS THAT PROBABLY DON'T HAVE THAT IN THEIR IMMEDIATE FUTURE SOMEWHERE TO WHERE THEY STAY CLEAN AND, AND AND, AND OCCUPIED AND, AND A CONTRIBUTING MEMBER OF SOCIETY. SO THAT'S THE WAY IT WAS PITCHED TO US PREVIOUSLY. 'CAUSE I REMEMBER YOU HAD THE SAME ISSUE LAST TIME TOO. SO, UM, AND IT DOES INCLUDE INFORMATION ABOUT THE FAFSA, LIKE GUIDANCE ON THAT AS WELL AS THE COLLEGE FAIRS. AND THAT'S JUST ONE, LIKE THE OTHER ONES THE CONSULTING SERVICES, 4,500, THAT'S THE ACTUAL CLASSES. 'CAUSE WHEN THEY DID THIS LAST TIME, THEY ACTUALLY, IT WAS, UM, OUT OF UT, SO U HERE, A AND MA AND M, IT WAS OUTTA A AND M. UM, SO IT WAS LIKE $1,500 PER CLASS THAT THEY WERE PAID FOR. SO THAT'S WHAT IS, SO THEY COULD HAVE PROBABLY RENAMED THAT OR PUT IT ON A DIFFERENT LINE ITEM BECAUSE THAT WAS ONE OF THE PREFILLED LINE ITEMS. I PROBABLY COULD HAVE PUT IT DOWN HERE WHERE YOU COULD FILL IN YOUR OWN. BUT THE $4,500 IS ACTUALLY PAYING THE SCHOOL OR THE, OR THE SERVICE OR WHATEVER THE FOUNDATION PAYING IS. WHAT, IF YOU LOOK ON THE, THE PAGE RIGHT ACROSS FROM THE BUDGET, THE LAST PARAGRAPH TALKS ABOUT PIVOT FOUNDATION, INC. SO WHAT I WILL SAY IS THAT I LIKE ABOUT IT IS THAT FOR A LONG TIME, THE COUNSELORS DON'T ALWAYS GUIDE THE STUDENTS IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION, EITHER OR NOT. AND NOT EVERYBODY HAS HAD A FAIR CHANCE TO GO TO GET TO, TO GET A SCHOLARSHIP OR TO GET, YOU KNOW, OR TO GO OR GUIDE YOU IN THE RIGHT. I DON'T CARE HOW SMART YOU WERE, IF YOU JUST WEREN'T LUCKY ENOUGH OR WHATEVER. YOU JUST DIDN'T GET, YOU KNOW, GUIDED THAT WAY. THIS LITTLE GROUP IS THAT OTHER LITTLE GROUP THAT HELPS YOU GET, THAT DOES, THAT GETS THOSE KIDS THAT ARE, WHETHER YOU'RE GOING TO A TWO YEAR COLLEGE OR A FOUR YEAR COLLEGE OR BE A DOCTOR, THEY'LL, THEY'LL ENCOURAGE YOU, STAY OUT OF TROUBLE. YOU KNOW, STAY OUTTA THIS, STAY OUTTA THAT SO THAT YOU CAN BE A PRODUCTIVE CITIZEN. SO I WILL SAY THAT I KNOW QUITE A FEW KIDS THAT HAVE GONE THROUGH THIS PROGRAM AND THEY, THEY HAVE, IF THEY HADN'T BEEN FOR SOMEBODY CRACKING THE WHIP, YOU KNOW, AND SAY, OKAY, SO YOU DIDN'T GET THAT $10,000 SCHOLARSHIP, BUT HERE'S, YOU KNOW, HERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF HELP SO THAT YOU CAN, YOU CAN GET STARTED AND, AND SO ON AND SO FORTH. AND I, I WILL SAY THAT THAT'S 'CAUSE THE STORY OF OUR, AND I, YOU KNOW, WE ASK SOME GOOD COUNSELORS, BUT IT'S JUST NOT EVERYBODY'S, NOT EVERY PARENT IS OUT THERE. NOT EVERY, YOU KNOW, IS IS OUT THERE. YOU KNOW, MY PERSONAL OPINION, I'D LIKE TO, UH, AND THE REASON I SAY THIS, AND I DEFINITELY UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING COMING FROM, UH, WITH SHARON'S, RIGHT? UM, AND THE FACT THAT, UM, FROM WHAT I SEE, THERE'S PROGRAMS TO ASSIST STUDENTS WITH COLLEGE AND THAT'S WHERE THEY WANT TO PUSH THEM. BUT THERE'S NOT MUCH GOING TOWARDS OTHER OPTIONS. AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO GIVE KIDS THOSE OPTIONS. IF IT WASN'T FOR A PROGRAM LIKE THIS, I PROBABLY WOULDN'T DO WHAT I'M TODAY BECAUSE I WAS IN CO-OP IN HIGH SCHOOL. LIKE WHEN I GOT TO HIGH SCHOOL, I STOPPED PLAYING SPORTS AND WORKING WAS THE THING FOR ME. SO MY JUNIOR YEAR IN HIGH SCHOOL, I GOT OUT AT 12 O'CLOCK AND I WENT STRAIGHT TO WORK. UM, YOU KNOW, IF, IF I HAD KNOWN ABOUT OTHER OPTIONS, I PROBABLY WOULD NOT HAVE WASTED SOME OF MY TIME GOING TO SCHOOL BECAUSE YOU DO HAVE A LOT OF [01:15:01] OTHER OPTIONS, LOCATIONS, EXTRA PLUMBING, ELECTRICIAN, UM, JUST A LOT OF OPTIONS FOR KIDS THAT THEY DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO GO TO A FULL YEAR OF COLLEGE. PROBABLY TWO YEARS TRADE SCHOOL OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. I KNOW I WOULD'VE BEEN AN OPERATOR HAD, I KNOW I I'VE KNOWN OPERATORS. I MEAN, WHEN WE GRADUATED IT WAS, I WAS GOING TO OPERATORS AND THEY WAS MAKING ALMOST A HUNDRED KA YEAR AT 18 YEARS OLD. YEAH. 17 YEARS OLD BECAUSE THEY HAD THAT OPTION AND, AND SCHOOL JUST WASN'T COMPLETELY AN OPTION FOR THEM. BUT, UH, I THINK PROGRAMS LIKE THIS GIVE GIVES KIDS THOSE OPTIONS. ALSO INCLUDED. IT DOES HAVE SOME COLLEGE PREPARATION AND COLLEGE INFORMATION IN THE PROGRAM. SO THEY'RE NOT COMPLETELY TURNING A BLIND EYE TO, UH, A COLLEGE SITUATION. BUT I THINK THERE'S DEFINITELY THAN ME FOR A COMMUNITY LIKE THIS, 'CAUSE I'M, I'M, I'M WITH YOU. EDUCATION IS A BIG THING. I'M A HUGE NERD. I GOT MY BACHELOR'S JUST BECAUSE I ALWAYS TOLD MY DAUGHTER, YOU NEED A ONE UP ME, SO YOU NEED TO GET A MASTER'S. AND SHE BETTER HOPE I DON'T GO FOR A MASTER'S. 'CAUSE THEN SHE'S GONNA BE DR. GALLOP . YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? BUT I, I FIRMLY BELIEVE IN THAT. BUT THERE ARE SOME KIDS THAT DON'T HAVE THAT OPTION. I'M, I'M LUCKY MY BABY'S A GENIUS, BUT, UM, I'M TRYING TO ALL THE SCHOLARSHIPS. BUT YOU HAVE PARENT, YOU, YOU CAN DO THAT. YOU KNOW HOW TO DO THAT. NOT EVERY PARENT HAS THEM. AND THAT'S WHAT THESE PEOPLE ARE, THESE THEY MIGHT COME FROM ARE THE PARENTS TO THESE KIDS THAT DON'T HAVE THE BACKGROUNDS, THAT DON'T HAVE IT. YOU'RE THE FIRST KIDS THAT PROBABLY ARE GRADUATING FROM HIGH SCHOOL AND THEY DON'T HAVE A, A MENTOR OR ANYBODY TO LOOK UP TO. 'CAUSE NOBODY ELSE HAS GONE AS FAR AS THEY HAVE. BUT THEY RECENTLY PUT SOME PICTURES UP ON FACEBOOK. THEY HAD AN EVENT WEEKEND. YOU SEE SOME OF THOSE KIDS THE FIRST TIME WEARING A TIE MAYBE OR A DRESS OR BEING IN A GROUP OF INDIVIDUALS, ADULTS TELLING THEM THAT THEY ARE WORTH IT. MY ONLY CONCERN IS, I COMPLETELY AGREE WITH YOU AND YOU, BUT YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND NOT SIMPLE EXAMPLE, NOT ALL FIVE FINGERS ARE THE SAME. NOT EVERYBODY WHO GRADUATES HIGH SCHOOL, THERE'S SOMEBODY NUMBER ONE AND SOMEBODY 500 OUT OF A CLASS OF 500. THEIR GOAL IS NOT TO GET A HIGHER EDUCATION, BUT TO PROVIDE FOR THEIR FAMILY. AND I AGREE, EVEN IF ONE CLASS OR ONE YEAR, ONE SEMESTER MAKES A DIFFERENCE, BUT NOT WE'RE, I MEAN FOR ALL DOCTORS, SOMEBODY'S GOTTA BE THE GARBAGE MAN. NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT, YOU KNOW? I MEAN, I I FIRMLY BELIEVE IN THAT COMING AS AN IMMIGRANT WHERE WE'RE ALL TAUGHT, I DROPPED OUTTA MEDICAL SCHOOL. I MEAN DENTAL SCHOOL, BUT SOMEBODY'S GOTTA DO THE OTHER JOBS TOO. SO I THINK THIS IS THIS THIS IT IS A NICHE WHERE THEY'RE SERVING THAT LITTLE COMMUNITY. SO I MEAN, I'M OKAY WITH INCREASING IT 'CAUSE THEY'RE, I MEAN THEY WERE NOT ONLY THAT, AND I THINK OVER THE WEEKEND THEY WERE ALSO AT A JOB FAIR, INCLUDING ONE OF THE OTHER GROUPS WE HEARD FROM THE OTHER DAY. UM, THEY WERE AT A JOB FAIR HERE IN TOWN, RIGHT BY LOU. SO THE WORK STORES. YEAH, THE WORK STORES, YES. ABSOLUTELY. UPSTAIRS THEY WERE HAVING A JOB FAIR THERE AND THEY AND THE COMMUNITIES, COMMUNITIES IN SCHOOL, THEY DO ADVERTISEMENT. AND THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS I HAD ASKED HER BECAUSE WHEN I GOT HOME I ASKED MY HIGH SCHOOLER, SHE'S HEARD ABOUT IT AND FORTUNATELY WE DON'T NEED IT, BUT THEY ARE ACTIVE AND THEIR KIDS WHO ARE INVOLVED IN IT CURRENTLY, YOU KNOW, I KNOW THAT THAT IS THERE. SO, SO I MEAN OKAY. WITH WHATEVER YOU GUYS DO BE HAVING. SO, HUH? SORRY, GO AHEAD. NO, I WAS JUST GONNA SAY, I DEFINITELY AGREE THAT EDUCATION, FOR ME, EDUCATION IS A BIG, HUGE THING. HOWEVER, I THINK THAT, I THINK THAT ANYTHING BEYOND HIGH SCHOOL IS NOT FOR EVERYONE. I AGREE. UM, I HAVE A GODDAUGHTER WHO'S 20 AND WHEN SHE WAS, UM, GOING INTO HIGH SCHOOL, I SAID TO HER, YOU ARE REALLY GONNA HAVE TO STUDY BECAUSE YOU NEED TO MAKE REALLY GOOD GRADE. LIKE YOU CAN'T FLUFF OFF AND STUFF IN HIGH SCHOOL BECAUSE YOU NEED TO HAVE REALLY GOOD GRADES SO THAT YOU CAN HAVE A PICK OF EV ANY COLLEGE YOU WANT. AND HER QUESTION TO ME WAS, DO YOU HAVE TO HAVE A COLLEGE DEGREE AND HAVE A GOOD JOB? AND THIS IS, I AT THE TIME HAD A COLLEGE DEGREE. NEITHER ONE OF HER PARENTS WHO DID VERY WELL HAVE A COLLEGE DEGREE. IN FACT, NEITHER ONE OF THEM HAS EVER TAKEN A COLLEGE COURSE. SO THAT'S WHERE SHE'S COMING FROM. RIGHT. I KNEW WHAT I WANTED FOR HER, BUT SHE HAS DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE AND DAD WHO SEE THINGS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY AND HAVE DONE VERY WELL FOR THEMSELVES WITHOUT ANY COLLEGE AT ALL. SO I DON'T THINK COLLEGE IS FOR EVERYONE. I DO LIKE THIS PROGRAM FOR THOSE KIDDOS WHO DON'T HAVE THE PARENT AT HOME. EXACTLY. LIKE MY MOM WAS LIKE, YOU'RE GOING TO COLLEGE. RIGHT, RIGHT. UM, SO CHOICE. YEAH. SO, UM, I THINK I LIKE THIS PROGRAM FOR THAT. I'M NOT SURE ABOUT INCREASING IT BECAUSE I [01:20:01] WANNA SEE WHAT THEY'RE GONNA DO WITH THE 7,000, THE RISK, BECAUSE THAT IS AN INCREASE FROM PREVIOUS YEAR. SO FIVE GRAND. YES. SO 2020 THEY GOT 5,000 AND THEY SPENT 98% OF IT. YEAH. SO I, SO WE, IT'S ALREADY AN INCREASE. IT'S ALREADY 2000 INCREASE FROM WHAT THEY'RE DOING LAST YEAR. I THINK THEY'LL DO GOOD. I THINK WHO MADE THE PRESENTATION? THEY'RE PRETTY PASSIONATE ABOUT IT. AND I SEE KIDS, I MEAN, I THINK MY, ONE OF MY KIDS GO TO EF GREEN AND THEY HAVE A SIMILAR PROGRAM. I FORGET THE NAME OF IT, BUT THEY HAVE HAD, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN SEE IT IS LIKE, I, I, I'M NOT SAYING I CAN SEE ON A KID'S FACE, BUT YOU CAN SEE ON A KID'S FACE SOMETIMES WHO ARE NOT LOVED AT HOME OR WHO HAVE NEVER BEEN ENCOURAGED AND THAT LITTLE BIT OF HELP FROM A STRANGER, STRANGER OR ADULT IN SCHOOL, HEY, HOW ARE YOU? I CARE ABOUT YOU, YOU KNOW, HELPS. SO I THINK THEY'LL SPEND IT. I MEAN, I'M OKAY WITH VERY MUCH. YEAH. AND IN OUR GROWING COMMUNITY IN BAYTOWN, WE NEED IT. IT'S NOT EVERYBODY'S, YOU KNOW, IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE THEY HAVE ANY OTHER FUNDING FOR IT'S COMING IN. SO ONE THING TO REMEMBER ON THIS, UM, THEY DON'T HAVE ANY SALARY BUDGETED IN HERE. SO THEY'RE, THEY'RE PAYING FOR ALL OF THEIR STAFF TIME AND ALL OF THAT. SO THIS IS LITERALLY JUST THE, IT'S THE JOB OF TEACHER. IT'S THE JOB OF THE TEACHERS. YEAH. SO COMMUNITIES IN SCHOOLS IS A, IS A BIG ORGANIZATION. SO THEY HAVE PLENTY OF OTHER FUNDING SOURCES AND THEY JUST DIDN'T PROVIDE IT IN THEIR BUDGET FOR THIS PROGRAM. BECAUSE IF YOU TAKE A LOOK AT THEIR FINANCIALS, THEY HAVE YES THEY DO. YEAH. LEAVE IT AT SEVEN. SO YEAH, SINCE THAT'S AN INCREASE FROM THE PREVIOUS YEAR, I, I DEFINITELY AT SEVEN. ALL RIGHT GUYS, THREE MORE TO GO. WHAT'S NEXT? DOORSTEP BLESSING. THAT'S WHERE THE THE FOOD. YES. WHAT'S THE NEXT ONE? SO WHAT IS MY, MY QUESTION THERE IS I WOULD LIKE TO VISIT THEIR OPERATION. CAN WE LEGALLY DO THAT OR IS THERE ASK OH, SHE SAID THAT THEY WERE HAVING SOME KIND OF WORK. WHENEVER THEY DO, YEAH, WHENEVER THEY'RE DONE, I CAN ALWAYS TRY TO PUT SOMETHING TOGETHER. OKAY. DO I THINK YOU'RE NOT THE ONLY ONE THAT WANTS TO GO? YEAH. DO WE HAVE TO DO IT INDIVIDUALLY OR AS A GROUP? I MEAN, I'M OKAY WITH IT AS A GROUP ALSO. WE CAN DO A FIELD TRIP. YEAH. WE JUST HAVE TO POST IT. OKAY. IF THE FIELD TRIP IS THEN I, I, I MEAN I KNOW MY FIELD TRIP HOURS ARE LIKE SCHOOL FIELD TRIP HOURS WHEN MY KIDS ARE AT SCHOOL. BUT OTHER THAN THAT I CAN JUST POP IN THERE BECAUSE I PICK UP AND DROP OFF MY KIDS. I MEAN, I'M JUST SAYING, YOU KNOW, WE CAN GET WITH HER AND FIND OUT WOULD YOU PREFER US TO COME AS A GROUP OR IS SHE OKAY WITH ENTERTAINING PEOPLE ONE-ON-ONE? YEAH, BECAUSE I KNOW, UH, THE REASON BEING, I KNOW AS PART OF ANA AND OTHER GROUPS, I WOULD LIKE TO GET THEM MORE FUNDING. JUST LIKE I KNEW ABOUT MEALS ON WHEELS AND I THINK THERE'S SO MANY PEOPLE OUT THERE WHO IN CHURCHES WHO ARE ALWAYS LOOKING FOR A GROUP LIKE THAT TO HELP THE NEEDY. AND I DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT IT, YOU KNOW? WELL, I HAVE TO SAY, IT SOUNDS LIKE MR. PREET WANTS TO FULLY FUND THEM. YEAH, I'M OKAY WITH THAT. I HAVE A QUESTION. IN 2020, THEY WERE AWARDED $50. THAT WAS THAT'S WHAT THE CV IS? YES. THAT'S WHAT WE, WE GOT OUR ALLOCATION FOR COVID FUNDS IN 2019 CV AND THEY'VE ACTUALLY SPENT MORE THAN THAT. UM, I'VE DONE A REIMBURSEMENT REQUEST ALREADY FOR THEM SINCE I PRINTED THE BOOK, BUT THIS YEAR THEY'RE ONLY ASKING FOR IT'S A COMPLETELY SEPARATE PROGRAM. YEAH. 'CAUSE IT'S A, IT IS A SEPARATE POT OF MONEY. I GOTCHA. SO ALL THOSE FOOD FAIRS THAT YOU SEE THAT THEY DO, HEARTS AND HANDS ARE THE ONES THAT DO IT. THAT'S UM, WE PAY FOR THAT. WE PAY FOR THE PARTNER WITH CHURCHES AND STUFF. WE PAY FOR THAT. WE PAY THE SALARIES. UM, WE PAY FOR SOME OF THE FOOD COSTS. THEY GET A LOT OF DONATIONS. SO WE MAINLY HAVE BEEN PAYING FOR FOOD COSTS AND TRANSPORTATION. SO THIS IS ONE OF THE ONES I'VE GOT A LOT OF OTHER SIGNIFICANT FUNDING. WHAT IS THIS ONE? UNITED 37. THEY RECEIVED FUNDING FROM UNITED WAY BE WELL BAYTOWN LITANY AND RESOURCES. I WANNA TALK TO THEIR GRANT WRITER. I, I FELT BAD THAT ASTONIAN, I MEAN I MOVED TO AMERICA RIGHT INTO BAYTOWN AND BEEN HERE SINCE NINE ONE AND I HAD NO IDEA WHERE THEY WERE, IF THEY EVEN EXISTED. I, I HONESTLY FELT PASS FOR THAT BECAUSE I'VE VOTED FOOD IN THE PAST TO, UM, THE HOMELESS, BAYTOWN HOMELESS SHELTER AND KNOW THEIR DIRECTOR, THE RECORD. AND I WORKED WITH HIM AND OTHER, YOU KNOW, OTHER, OTHER, OTHER EVENTS. BUT I JUST, I PERSONALLY FELT BAD THAT I HAD NO IDEA WHERE THEY WERE HERE IN TOWN. YOU KNOW, I DIDN'T EITHER. AND I'VE SEEN THEM ON SOCIAL MEDIA. I NEVER KNEW NOTHING ABOUT 'EM. ALWAYS PARTNERING WITH CHURCHES FOR FREE TRIBES. THAT'S THE ONLY THING I KNEW ABOUT 'EM. SO ON THEIR OTHER LOCATION THEY HAVE A LITTLE PAN. OH, THEY HAVE A FULL PANTRY SO [01:25:01] PEOPLE CAN SHOP. RIGHT, RIGHT. THAT'S WHAT SHE WAS, THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO SEE. THE THEY'RE ALWAYS LOOKING FOR VOLUNTEER. YEAH. THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS, YOU KNOW, TEENAGER KIDS TO GET THEM VOLUNTEER DURING THANKSGIVING, YOU KNOW, TO GO WITH THE HOMELESS SHELTER AND TO VOLUNTEER. THAT'S YOUR BLESSING. SO, I MEAN, I'M JUST SO DO YOU WANNA KEEP IT AT THE 10,750? DO WE HAVE ANY ISSUES WITH THE LINE ITEMS? NO, I'M OKAY WITH 10,007 50. I WHAT EVERYBODY ELSE IS KIND OF THINKING. WHAT KIND OF TRAINING OR TRAVEL DO YOU IT MIGHT BE JUST TRAVEL BECAUSE DOORSTEP BLESSINGS, THEY ARE GOING TO BE DRIVING TO, UM, APARTMENT COMPLEXES AND SETTING UP A PANTRY IN THEIR COM COMMUNITY EVENTS ROOM. SOMETIMES THEY'RE GONNA BE DRIVING, BUT VOLUNTEERS ARE ALSO GONNA BE DOING IT. SO IT'S PROB IT'S MORE TRAVEL THAN TRAINING, WHICH IS ANOTHER TIME THEY COULD HAVE PROBABLY USED A DIFFERENT, ONE OF THE BLANK LINES AND PUT IT THERE. AND THE FOOD HFB USE IS HOUSTON FOOD BANK. FOOD BANK BE, UM, I GUESS THEY'RE, THEY'RE UH, WHAT, I CAN'T REMEMBER THE EXACT TERM THAT SHE USED, BUT, UM, THEY ARE A MAJOR PORT OF FOOD FOR THIS AREA. SO THE HOUSTON FOOD BANK WILL, WILL GIVE THEM FOOD AND THEY'LL DISTRIBUTE IT TO OTHER SMALLER, UM, FOOD PANTRIES OR NON-PROFITS OR GROUPS THAT NEED 'EM. IT SAYS HERE A TOP RATED HOUSTON FOOD BANK. SO ARE WE GOOD WITH THE 10, 7 50? DO WE WANNA GO? HANG ON MR. VINCENT. WHAT YOU THINKING? HANG ON. SO THEY'RE IN EIGHT SITES RIGHT NOW IN BAYTOWN DELIVERING TO EIGHT SITES. UM, THEY'RE NOT IN WEST BAYTOWN. AND I KNOW IT SAYS THEY'RE HOPING TO EXPAND LIKE INTO WEST BAYTOWN. LIKE HOW CAN WE MAKE SURE THEY DO THAT? YEAH, BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT, IF WE FUND THAT, ONE OF THE THINGS IS, UM, THEY ALSO, THEY GO TO PEOPLE'S HOMES, BUT THEN THEY ALSO SET UP SHOP IN SOME OF THE ELDERLY, THE 65 AND OLDER APARTMENT COMPLEXES. RIGHT. SO SHE SAID LIKE IN A COMMUNITY ROOM OR SOMETHING. YEAH. SO THERE ARE NONE OF THOSE ON THIS SIDE OF TOWN. THERE'S THE ONE SHADY CREEK ON ALEXANDER SET UP AT THE PROMISE CENTER. THIS IS TRUE. SO THEN WE'D, SHE'D HAVE TO PARTNER WITH FRED AND VALERIE. UM, YOU KNOW, ARE THEY EQUIPPED TO HANDLE HER AT THE PROMISE CENTER? I KNOW. NO, THERE'S NOT PART. RIGHT. SO I JUST, I DON'T KNOW. I JUST FEEL LIKE, I THINK THAT WEST BAYTOWN IS PROBABLY AN AREA THAT COULD REALLY BENEFIT FROM THIS. AND UM, SHE SAYS THEY ARE PLANNING TO EXPAND WEST BAYTOWN WALKING DISTANCE TO YEAH, I JUST, I COULDN'T MAKE SURE THEY, BUT SHE DID SAY THAT IT'S PROBABLY NOT SOMETHING THAT'LL WALK TOO. 'CAUSE THEN KNOW YOU GOTTA CARRY IT ALL BACK. AND IF THEY'RE ELDERLY, YOU'RE, BUT THEY DO HAVE OTHER SERVICES IN THE AREA. THEY'LL DO, UM, THE FOOD FAIRS AT LEE HIGH SCHOOL. UM, AND THOSE ONES ARE REALLY BIG. AND FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO HAVEN'T BEEN TO IT, THEY TAKE UP THE ENTIRE LEHIGH PARKING LOT. LIKE IT TAKES A LOT OF SPACE TO MAKE THESE KIND OF THINGS. BOBBY, YOU WERE GONNA SAY SOMETHING. HOW CAN WE MAKE FOOD ACCESSIBLE IN THE FOOD DESERT? JUST AS PART OF TOWN? BECAUSE GROCERY STORES. YEAH. YES. THERE ARE NO GROCERY STORES AROUND THIS PART OF TOWN. SO THEN THAT'S EXACTLY WHY SHE NEEDS TO MOVE INTO WEST BAYTOWN. FIGURE IT OUT. SHE NEEDS IT. FIGURED IT OUT. SORRY. YEAH. ANOTHER THING I WOULD TELL YOU GUYS, IT'S MUCH EASIER FOR US TO SIT HERE AND THINK ABOUT THIS. THINGS GET MUCH TOUGHER. PRACTICALITY ON THE GROUND. YOU ACTUALLY HAVEN'T SOMETHING I CAN SIT HERE. OH, SHE WAS ASKING, UH, SHE WANTS TO PAY RENT. YES, I DO. THEY HAVE A LINE ITEM? UH, YEAH. 1872. YEAH, BUT THAT WOULDN'T COME OUT OF THIS. NO, I'M JUST CURIOUS. SO, UH, DO WE HAVE ANY, ANY DECISIONS? I'M OKAY WITH THE TEN SEVEN FIFTY. MR. VINCENT, I KNOW YOU'RE THINKING OVER THERE BECAUSE YOU WAS STARING AT THAT PAPER. , I MEAN, I'M, I'M DEFINITELY OKAY WITH THE 10, 7 50. UH, I, I THINK, UH, I HAVE THE BAGS, BOXES, ET CETERA. $500, 40%. SO SEE, COULD WE INCREASE THAT TO MAYBE A THOUSANDS? SO THEY JUST, JUST TO LET YOU KNOW, UM, THEY GET FOOD IN BOXES AND THEN AS THEY EMPTY THE FOOD OUT, PUT IT IN OTHER BOXES. THEY USE THOSE BOXES [01:30:01] FOR ANOTHER BASKET SO THAT IT GETS USED SEVERAL. THE TEN SEVEN. I'M GOOD. ALRIGHT, MS. RHONDA, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO ASK YOU TO STEP OUT. HEY, I'M LEAVING. NO, NOT FOR TODAY. STILL GOTTA VOTE. STILL GOTTA VOTE. OKAY. ON THE LEAVE. THIS IS ALL NOTHING. JACK SOME CANDY FROM SOMEWHERE AND HOOK A BROTHER UP. YEAH, GO GET SOME CHOCOLATE. RIGHT. WHERE AM I GONNA GET CHOCOLATE? YOU HAVE TO PUT THIS MACHINE GOING ON. IF IT'S ARE. YEAH. GIRL MEETING. GO FOR IT. TAKE A MEETING IN THERE. I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S DONE YET. SERIOUS, TAKE YOUR NAME PACKED. TELL THEM YOU IMPORTANT GOING. YOU WANNA GO AND SEE IF THE MEETING'S OVER. SO SILICA SHOW. OKAY. SO WHICH TAB IS THIS? 10? UM, OUTREACH? YES, THAT'S TAB. WHAT'S THIS? THE TALENT FIRST STEP HOMELESS OUTREACH PROGRAM. SO I, I THOUGHT ABOUT THEM. I'M SORRY. I THOUGHT ABOUT THEM 'CAUSE I HAD, UH, AN INDIVIDUAL COME TO ME FOR A NOTARY SERVICE. YOU CAN TELL THAT THEY WERE PROBABLY TRANSIENT. DIDN'T HAVE A, ID DIDN'T HAVE ANY OF THAT AND THAT, AND I THOUGHT ABOUT THIS PROGRAM BECAUSE THAT'S REALLY WHAT THEY FOCUSED ON AND TRY TO GET THESE INDIVIDUALS BACK. AND THEN SHE WAS TRYING TO GET THAT SOMETHING NOTARIZED FOR, I DON'T THINK IT WAS FOR A JOB SITUATION, BUT IT, IT WAS SOMETHING TO REALLY HELP HER GET HER OUT FROM THE SITUATION SHE'S IN AND DO IT. SHE DIDN'T HAVE AN ID BUT IT JUST, YOU KNOW, IT HURTS YOUR HEARTS. IT, YEAH, IT JUST RUNG A BELL. LIKE, HEY THIS PROGRAM PEOPLE REALLY NEED, NEED THIS PROGRAM. UH, AND THINGS LIKE THIS. I ACTUALLY SAW ONE AT THE HOSPITAL AND HE SAID HE WAS TAKING. WOW. YEAH, I SAW . I WENT LIKE EVERY TIME I DRIVE BY THE SHELTER. THAT, THAT FOR THE, IS THIS THE ONE FOR THE VETERANS IN THE NO, THEY DON'T HAVE, IT'S DIFFERENT. DIFFERENT. THEY, THEY HELP VETERANS. VETERANS ARE ONE OF THE PEOPLE THAT THEY HELP. BUT YEAH, THE ONE THAT THE OFFICE IN HIGHLANDS IS THERE. IS THIS THEIR FIRST TIME REQUESTING FUNDS? YES. UM, AND THEY ALSO DIDN'T RECEIVE FUNDS FROM THE UNITED WAY. THAT'S CORRECT. THEY APPLIED FOR FUNDING FROM THE UNITED WAY AND DID NOT RECEIVE THEM. SHE TOLD US WHY TOO. UH, IT'S BECAUSE THEY REQUIRE THEIR AGENCIES TO GET AN AUDIT, A FINANCIAL AUDIT NOW TIME. YEAH. THEY ONLY REQUIRE IT ONCE YOU GET A IN A CERTAIN THRESHOLD. AND THEY HAD JUST HIT THAT THRESHOLD. I REMEMBER HER. I MEAN EVERY TIME I DRIVE BY I 10 AND NORTH MAIN, NOW I'M LOOKING INTO THE WOODS AND EVERY TIME I SEE A PERSON WALK IN ON, YOU KNOW, ON THE STREETS HERE IN GAR ROAD, YOU CAN ALWAYS SEE, AND I'M ALWAYS THINKING ABOUT THEM NOW. SO ONE OF THE ISSUES WITH THEM IS UM, WITH THEM BEING BRAND NEW, WITH THEM BEING LOCATED OUTSIDE OF GATO AND THEY DO HAVE AN OFFICE AT THE LIBRARY, WHICH IS GREAT. UM, BUT THE ALMOST $30,000 IN OTHER FUNDING SOURCES THAT THEY HAVE, THEY ACTUALLY DON'T HAVE THAT. SO THEY DIDN'T GET THE FUNDING FROM THE UNITED WAY. NOW THEY DO HAVE A PARTNERSHIP WITH WINNIE HOSPITAL. IT'S CALLED WINNIE HOSPITAL. I GOT THAT. BUT THAT'S IN WINNIE. SO THAT'S ANOTHER THING. SO WE HAD, WE'D HAVE TO BE CAREFUL IN, UM, IN HOW MUCH FUNDING YOU WANNA GIVE THEM. PROBABLY START SMALL, MAYBE PICK THE MAIN ITEMS THAT ARE OF IMPORTANCE LIKE IDS, BIRTH CERTIFICATES, POSTAGE, THINGS LIKE THAT BEFORE GOING BIG BECAUSE THEY HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO APPLY FOR ESG FUNDS THROUGH HARRIS COUNTY BECAUSE THEY ARE, THEIR AGENCY IS LOCATED IN HARRIS COUNTY. UM, AND ESG IS EMERGENCY SOLUTIONS GRANT IS ALSO GIVEN BY HUD. SAME AS IN THE SAME FAMILY OF CDBG. UM, HARRIS COUNTY HAS LIKE 1.2 MILLION, 1.2 MILLION IN FUNDING THAT THEY CAN'T QUALIFY. THEY CAN'T APPLY FOR, COULD BE THAT THE QUALIFICATIONS. BUT THEY DO HAVE A GRANT WRITING TEAM NOW ACCORDING TO THEIR APPLICATION. SO, UM, BUT IF Y'ALL DO DECIDE TO FUND THEM, JUST THINK ABOUT HOW HARD IT MIGHT BE ON US AT THE BACK END TO MAKE SURE EVERYTHING THEY'RE DOING IS ELIGIBLE. SO HALF, HALF THE MONEY IS YEAH, THERE A LOT. THAT'S A LOT FOR HOW MANY PEOPLE? OH THAT'S A LOT. AFTER 12 SHE SAID. SO JUST BECAUSE THEY HAVE A GOOD MISSION STATEMENT DOESN'T MEAN THEY'RE PROPERLY, YOU KNOW, ORGANIZED TO RUN AND EXECUTE. I THINK IT'S GONNA EXECUTE, I THINK BE HARD IN GENERAL. I MEAN HOW DO YOU DETERMINE [01:35:01] THAT A HOMELESS PERSON IS A BAYTOWN RESIDENT? SO THAT'S ALREADY KIND OF DIFFICULT. THEY'RE PROBABLY NOT A BAYTOWN RESIDENT. THIS ISN'T THE FIRST TIME THEY'VE APPLIED FOR THIS PROGRAM. THEY APPLIED FOR IT A COUPLE YEARS AGO. WHAT HAPPENED THEN? THEY DIDN'T RESPOND BECAUSE IT'S HARD TO DETERMINE NOW I CAN SEE, YOU KNOW, THE STATE ID THE BIRTH CERTIFICATES. YEAH THE BUS PASSES, THINGS LIKE THAT POSTAGE. 'CAUSE OF COURSE THAT'S IMPORTANT AND YOU KNOW, OFFICE SUPPLIES AND STUFF LIKE THAT. BUT THE REST GREYHOUND BUS PASSES. I DON'T KNOW WHY WE'RE BUSTING BAYTOWN RESIDENTS OUT OF THE CITY. SO, UM, THE HARRIS COUNTY TOKENS THAT CAN BE USEFUL. THE PREVIOUS, UM, BOARD MEMBERS WHEN IT CAME DOWN TO IDENTIFICATION AND YOU GET STUCK WITH ME, HOW CAN YOU ISSUE OUT AN ID ADDRESS ON THE LINE? SO WHENEVER A POLICE DOES COME AND A LAW ENFORCE OFFICER COME AND STOP YOU. HOW THEY SUPPOSED TO KNOW THAT YOU ARE TRULY, YOU KNOW, SAY WHO YOU ARE AND WHERE YOU LIVE? I'VE NEVER THOUGHT ABOUT THOSE THINGS BECAUSE WHEN THEY ISSUE I, IT'S GONNA SAY BLANK ON THERE. I TELL YOU ABOUT THE, ONE OF MY FRIENDS' BROTHER IS WITH YOU ALL ALREADY. OKAY. AND THE ONLY WAY HE COULD GET ME THE KIND OF DETOXING PLACE OUT, OUT THE STATE OF TEXAS IS FOR THE FAMILY TO TAKE HIM TO THE GREYHOUND BUS STATION TO GET HIM TO THAT PLACE. THE FAMILY HAD TO PAY FOR IT, YOU KNOW, TO GET HIM ALL THE WAY TO ARKANSAS. PROBABLY HAVE FAMILY HAVE PAY TO GET THEM TO OUTTA TEXT. I AGREE. I MEAN I THESE ARE TOUGH DECISIONS. GOOD LORD. YOU, YOU HARD GO HEART GOES OUT TO EVERYONE AND YOU WANT TO HELP EVERYONE. BUT THEN YOU HAVE THE FIDUCIARY DUTIES AS TO MAKE SURE, WELL YOU CAN ALWAYS PICK INDIVIDUAL ITEMS TO FUND AND NOT FUND. SO DO YOU, DO WE NOT WANT TO FUND, WE JUST WANT TO GO DOWN DOWN THE MIDDLE AND DO SIX GRAND WHERE WE'RE NOT FUNDING THEIR SALARIES BUT WE'RE KIND OF SAYING OKAY TO EVERYTHING ELSE. I THINK SHARON HAD SOME CONCERNS OVER SOME OF THESE CATEGORIES, WHETHER OR NOT THEY'D BE ELIGIBLE FOR THE FUNDS. 'CAUSE REMEMBER THAT'S THE LENS THAT SHARON AND I ARE LOOKING AT JUST THROUGH IS MAKING SURE THAT WHEN WE GET AUDITED, YOU KNOW, IN A COUPLE OF YEARS, WE DON'T HAVE TO PAY ATTENTION TO THAT OR ASK THEM TO PAY. UM, SO WHAT ARE THE CONCERNS? LIKE THE GREYHOUND BUSES FOR EXAMPLE? THAT'S WHY THESE AREN'T ACTUAL BAYTOWN RESIDENCE. YEAH, THEY MIGHT GET THEIR ID AND YOU KNOW, MOVE BACK ON CLIENT WAS INTERESTING. OKAY, AT THE TRUCK STOPS YOU MEAN WHAT? WHY IF IT'S $18 PER PERSON, YOU'RE ASKING FOR $750. WHAT WAS IT? 41.6 6 6 6 6 6 6 OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. SO THAT'S, I'D SAY WELL I THINK THE DIFFERENT PRICES ARE DIFFERENT TRUCK STOPS. THAT WAS JUST THE NUMBER THAT THEY REPORTED TO. NO, I'M JUST, I MEAN I'M, YEAH, $18 A SHOWER, $500 ON HARRIS COUNTY BUS TOKENS. SEEMS LIKE THEY NEED A TEAM UP WITH ARE WE THINKING ABOUT NOTHING GUYS? PROBABLY. YOU THINK, I MEAN I KNOW THERE IS A NEED FOR THE ID AND THE BIRTH CERTIFICATES. IT SHOULD BE ELIGIBLE FOR THE, THE FUNDS. RIGHT. EMERGENCY HOTEL STAY. HOW DO WE KNOW THEY'RE PUTTING THEM IN A HOTEL IN ? SHE SAID IT WAS RIGHT OFF OF CAR ROAD, DIDN'T SHE? THE ONE IN THE HOTELS THAT YOU YEAH, AND I BELIEVE IN THE APPLICATION IT HAD SAID THAT THE EMERGENCY HOTEL STAYS ARE FOR THE SPECIAL NEEDS PEOPLE WHO CAN'T, YOU KNOW, BE ON THE STREETS OR GO TO SHELTER AND THINGS LIKE THAT. YOU CAN PROTECT A STIPULATION IF YOU DO FUND THEM. YOU KNOW, IF, I THINK MANY OF THESE DECISIONS THEY MAKE ON THE SPOT, YOU KNOW, WHAT IS NEEDED AND WHAT IS NOT NEEDED. BECAUSE I THINK SHE GAVE US AN EXAMPLE OF A YOUNG MAN PUT ON A GRAND ON BUS TO GO TO SAN DIEGO. THE EXAMPLE SHE GAVE US. YEAH. SO I MEAN, DO WE NOT FUND HIM? [01:40:01] THE THE FLIP SIDE TO THAT IS, I KNOW, I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. A GRAY ON BUS IS THOSE PASSES SHOULD BE ONLY FOR BAYTOWN RESIDENTS. RIGHT. FOR, FOR FOR EXAMPLE, A GENTLEMAN WHO'S HOMELESS HERE, IF HE STAYS THERE AND WE DON'T PUT HIM ON A BUS, THEN HE BECOMES OUR RESPONSIBILITY, OUR LIABILITY OF BAYTOWN PD, BAYTOWN HOSPITAL, ALL THE OTHER, YOU KNOW, ORGANIZATIONS HAVING TO FEED HIM CARE FOR HIM AND SO FORTH AND ON. SO IS IT WISE TO PUT HIM ON A BUS AND HAVE HIM GO HOME AND YOU KNOW, SOMEONE ELSE HELP HIM INSTEAD OF US? I DON'T KNOW. I'M SO IT SEEMS LIKE A COMMON SENSE APPROACH. BUT AGAIN, I'M GONNA SAY SHARON AND I ARE COMING AT THIS FROM A TECHNICAL I AGREE. I AGREE. SO, YEAH, SO HAVING SAID THAT, SOMETIMES WE HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, GO WITH NOT WHAT THE EMOTIONAL DECISION IS, BUT WHAT THE ANALYTICAL DECISION IS AND WHAT THE RULE OF THE LAW IS. IF WE DON'T LIKE IT, THEN WE, WHAT DO WE, I MEAN, WHAT DO WE WANNA DO? SORRY, JUST GONNA GIMME ONE. IF, IF ANYTHING WE FIND THE MAIN THING IT WOULD BE ONLY FOR BIRTH CERTIFICATES, IN MY OPINION. AND NOT EVEN FOR IDS. YOU NEED AN ID TO GET A BIRTH CERTIFICATE. , IT'S CATCH 22 AND BOTH OF THOSE ARE, ARE ELIGIBLE. SO THAT'S, THAT'S NOT AN ITEM WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. YOU NEED TO FLIP THE COIN DECISION BECAUSE SOME OF THESE DECISIONS ARE TOO TOUGH TO MAKE ON A RATIONAL MIND OR YOU KNOW. SO IF YOU LOOK AT IDS AND BIRTH CERTIFICATES ALONE, THAT IS ABOUT $1,700 BUT YOU PROBABLY NEED POSTAGE. HOW DOES THAT, HOW DO YOU TRACK THAT? HOW DO YOU, HOW DO YOU TRACK THAT? SO YOU DON'T HAVE A RECEIPT? YEAH, SO LAUNDRY. OH YEAH. SO THE, THE HOTEL STAY AND THE BUS TOKENS, THOSE WOULD BE EASIER TO TRACK HOTEL STAY AGAIN. 'CAUSE THIS IS A REIMBURSEMENT BASE. SO IF THEY, UH, RENT A HOTEL IN CROSBY, WHEN THEY TURN IN THE FORM SHARON SHOWS THEM SAY THAT'S NOT ELIGIBLE. IT'S NOT INSIDE CITY LIMITS. SO THAT WE WOULDN'T REFUND ON THAT SINCE THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT WE CAN ACTUALLY QUANTIFY SALARY AMOUNT, TOKEN HOTEL STAY. BUT CAN WE DO THE SALARY AMOUNT THAT THEY DON'T EVEN HAVE A BETON OFFICE? THEY HAVE ONE AT THE LIBRARY. OKAY. IS THAT, SO THEY, THEY HOUSE THERE, THEY HAVE A, A FACILITY THAT'S OPEN TO DIFFERENT NON-PROFITS AND COME IN. SO CURRENTLY I THINK THEY COME IN ONCE TO TWICE A WEEK. RIGHT. UM, AND THEN AT THE MEETING SHE WAS ALSO SAYING SHE MEETS IN AT MCDONALD'S OR WHATEVER, WHATEVER THEY MIGHT BE. RIGHT. AND ALSO YOU COULD THINK TOO THAT IF YOU'RE REDUCING THE SCOPE, YOU COULD PROBABLY REDUCE THE SALARY AND LIKE SHARON SAID, WHEN WE STARTED THIS ONE, THIS COULD BE THE FIRST TIME. AND THE REQUIREMENTS, YOU TALKING ABOUT THE REQUIREMENTS FOR CDBG FUNDING IS SO DIFFERENT THAN UNITED WAY. SO MAYBE IF Y'ALL ARE INTERESTED IN FUNDING 'EM, WE JUST REDUCE THE AMOUNT SHOTS, SEE HOW THEY GO, JUST KIND OF LOOPS US IN INTO WHERE WE, I MEAN LOOKING FORWARD TO NEXT YEAR, SEE HOW THEY DID. DO YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? BECAUSE WE REALLY WANT TO KNOW WHETHER WE MADE THE RIGHT DECISION OR LORD OF THINKING BACK SAYING HEY, WE SHOULD HAVE GIVEN THEM MORE MONEY. YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? BECAUSE EVENTUALLY IT'S AN INDIVIDUAL THAT YOU COULD BE HURTING OR HELPING. AND IF THEY DON'T, THEY ALSO OTHER FUNDS. I KNOW, BUT STILL, YOU KNOW, SO IT COULD BE TO WHERE YOU JUST GIVE 'EM A FRACTION OF WHAT THEY'RE ASKING FOR. NOW HOW DO WE DECIDE ITEM, LINE ITEM? SAY AGAIN? I JUST PUT ANOTHER NUMBER OUT THERE. 5,000. SO DO WE WANT PUT A A ASTERISK ON THAT? FIVE GRAND THAT IS ONLY NEEDS TO BE FOR, WE DON'T REALLY HAVE TO DO THAT FOR CERTAIN THINGS OR CERTAIN THINGS IN THE CITY OF BETA. I MEAN IF IT'S NOT FOR OR BIRTH CERTIFICATE BECAUSE YOU GOTTA HAVE ONE OR THE OTHER. IS IT JUST FOR HOTEL STAYS AND I MEAN I GUESS THE SHOWERS THEY'RE USING, THE TRUCK STOPS HERE IN BAYTOWN ROAD. ARE THOSE TRACK? I'M SORRY? HOW DO WE TRACK THAT? DON'T, DON'T YOU GET A RECEIPT OR I'VE NEVER USED A TRUCK STOP SHOWER FREEDOM. I'M SORRY. I HAVE AT HOME. I HAVE TWO AT HOME. I KNOW YOU PROBABLY HAVE FOUR. I SAW YOUR HOUSE. NO, NO, NO. IT'S NOT MY HOUSE. IT'S MY WIFE. . WE SAW YOUR HOUSE. I JUST STAY THERE. YEAH. BUT UM, BUT YEAH, IT'S [01:45:01] JUST, I I JUST WORRY ABOUT HOW TO TRACK THAT. IS THE BROTHER TRYING TO MAKE IT IN AMERICA? . SO IF YOU WERE GONNA DO, LET'S SEE, I'D LIKE TO PUT THE SIX OFF AND THEN THE REST. BUT THEN YOU ARE SAYING THAT I, I LIKE WHAT YOU SAID TOO ABOUT HOW CAN YOU TRACK SHOWERS BECAUSE EVERYTHING ELSE IS, YOU CAN TRACK EXCEPT THE, EXCEPT THE SHOWERS. THE SHOWERS, SHOWERS AND CLOTHING. THE LAUNDRY PASSES, BUS PASSES. UH, THE GREYHOUND BUS PASSES. HOW MUCH IS THAT? SO YOU SAID KNOCK OUT, I'M ABOUT TO ADD IT UP. SO YOU SAID KNOCK OUT THE UM, SALARY AND THEN DO EVERYTHING. BUT THE BUS PASSES, THE SHOWERS AND THE LAUNDRY. IS THAT, IS THAT EQUAL TO FIVE? WHICH YOU THINKING SOMETHING BUDDY? YEAH, 41 80. WHAT DID YOU GET? TELL US. OH, MY ONLY CONCERN IS EVEN A PERSON, IF YOU PUT A PERSON IN A HOTEL, YOU CAME FOR A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF NIGHTS AND A PERSON REFUSES TO LEAVE, THEN WHAT HAPPENS? WHO ON THE HOOK THEN? YES. I THINK THE HOTEL OWNER PROBABLY WOULD, I THINK THEY WOULD CALL IT THE LAW. YEAH. NOT THAT I'VE EVER OWNED A HOTEL. HOTEL OWNERS. I THINK THESE PEOPLE WOULD BE THERE AND THEY WOULD JUST TELL THE COPS AND THE COPS WOULD KICK 'EM OUT. I GOT 41 IDEAS, MAXIMUM ONLY 200. I THINK IT'S EASIER TO EVICT THEM OUT OF A HOTEL ROOM THAN TO AN APARTMENT SAY OR RV. DO YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? YES, YES. DOMICILE TO GO THROUGH THE LEGAL PROCESS. I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW. BUT WE CAN GO DOWN TO ANY LITTLE MOTEL AND THEY'LL TALK TO US AND WE CAN TALK TO THEM IN MY LANGUAGE AND ASK THEM, HEY, HOW DO YOU WITH SOMETHING LIKE THAT I CAN CALL UP A BUDDY. YOU WANT A MOTEL AND ASK HIM. SO WE'RE GONNA GO WITH, WE ARE REIMBURSEMENT. SO IT WOULDN'T BE US ON THAT. OKAY. AND WE CAN ALSO, UM, PUT A STIPULATION ON HOW MANY NIGHTS PER PERSON PER IN THE MOTEL. EVEN THOUGH IT'S NOT GONNA BE MUCH. 'CAUSE THAT $1,200, THAT'S PROBABLY 10 NIGHTS IN A HOTEL. BEING IN A HOTEL IS IT'S, YOU CAN DO A LOT OF STUFF. 42 SHOULDN'T BE DOING GOOD WITH THE 4,242. 4,200 IS FINE. YEAH. HOTEL IS NOT. OH MY GOD. OKAY. SO FOR PROGRAM ADMINISTRATION, THE CAP IS 1, 3, 2, 6, 9, 5. THAT'S WHAT KEEPS ME INFORMING YOU ABOUT STUFF. SO ARE Y'ALL GOOD WITH THAT? YEAH. YES MA'AM. OKAY. AND NOW ALL WE HAVE LEFT IS HOUSING A LOT. SO WE HAVE 91. I'M WORKING ON OUR WAY FROM TWO BATHROOMS TO FIVE. I'M, I'M WORKING MY WAY THERE. SO WE HAVE 91 72 LEFT AND WE CAN JUST ADD IT TO THIS. HOLD ON, LEMME PUT THAT 45, 91 72. WELL THAT'S HOW MUCH WE HAVE LEFT IN PUBLIC SERVICE ACTIVITIES, BUT 7 28 0 45. SO THERE'S STILL A DIFFERENCE. 7 68, 4, 7, 7. THINK SOMEBODY OH YEAH, THANK YOU MARK. MINUS WE STILL HAVE TO CUT SOMEWHERE. SEVEN. NO, WE, WE GOT EXTRA MONEY. WE COULD JUST PUT IT ALL IN HOUSING THE WAY WE NORMALLY DO. 7 28 0 45, 7 20 OR SO ABOUT $33,000. $30,432. OKAY. HOUSING IS FINE. THAT COST IS GOING THROUGH THE ROOF ANYWAY. YEAH, LABOR TOO. TRYING TO GET A QUOTE ON HER ROOF THIS YESTERDAY. I'M SORRY, I DUNNO. SHE'S GONNA GO MEASURE. SHE WAS JUST TELLING ME WHAT THE COST PER SQUARE IS. YEAH. SQUARE. AND I THINK SHE WAS $50 HIGHER THAN WHAT I JUST PAID A YEAR AGO. AND I MEAN I TOLD HER, I SAID CHARGE THAT TO OTHER PEOPLE. SHE DIDN'T BUY IT. WIFE. RIGHT. WE'RE RECORDING. IT'S THE WIFE ROOF. WE'RE RECORDING. NO, EVERY TIME WIFE'S HOUSE. YES. WE GOOD TO GO? IS THAT IT? NO, WE HAVE TO. OH, LET'S VOTE. ALL RIGHT. SO MS. RHONDA, WE'RE FINISHED WITH TALENT YIELD. UM, AND OUR NEXT ONE WAS THE LAST TWO, UM, CITY FUNDED ONES. CITY BRAND ONES, WHICH ARE THE PROGRAM ADMINISTRATION AT 1 3, 2, 6, 9, 5. AND THEN, UM, THERE WAS A REMAINING AMOUNT WHEN WE TOTALED IT ALL TOGETHER AND WE JUST THREW THAT INTO THE HOUSING BUDGET. 440 $400,432, WHICH HAS US AT OUR TOTAL BUDGET. WOW. IS EVERYBODY GOOD WITH THE NUMBERS? THEY SEE. HI. [01:50:02] YES, WE'RE GOOD. I THE MOTION. SO BEFORE I WANTED TO CONGRATULATE EVERYBODY, ALL THE CITY OFFICIALS ON THEIR PROMOTION, JOB PROMOTION OR RECENTLY GOT HIRED. YES, . CONGRATULATIONS. CONGRATULATIONS. THANK YOU. YOU HOPEFULLY IT'S FOR THE LONG HAUL. SO WITH THAT I'D LIKE, UH, ASK FOR A MOTION FOR THIS BUDGET. I MOTION. I SECOND THAT FAVOR. AYE. AYE. OUR OPPOSED. AND WITH THAT MS. SHARON, THEY HAVE OUR BLESSINGS, [a. Receive the Community Development Manager's Report.] OUR BLESSING. SO NOW ONTO THE PROGRAM MANAGER HERE LATER THAN I, YOU'RE ABOUT TO JUMP OUT AND WALK OUT OUT HERE. SO THANK YOU MR. FREE FOR COMING. OH, YOU'RE VERY WELCOME GUYS. HAVE YOU NOT COME IN, WE WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN ABLE TO DO THIS TODAY. SO WHEN YA HERE ON THE BAYTOWN PD NER TONIGHT WITH MY WIFE OUTTA THE HOUSE BECAUSE I'M HERE INTO THE HOME WITH THE KIDS. SO OUR NEXT MEETING IS ON JUNE 14TH. THAT IS GONNA BE OUR PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE BUDGET THAT Y'ALL JUST APPROVED. FIVE 30. FIVE 30. UM, I'M GONNA TRY TO GET THE COUNCIL CHAMBER. UM, AND THAT'S GONNA BE BASICALLY WHERE THE PUBLIC WILL HAVE A CHANCE TO COME IN AND QUESTION OR COMMENT ON THE BUDGET THAT Y'ALL ARE PROPOSING. ONCE THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD ENDS, WE TAKE IT TO COUNCIL ON JULY 28TH. UH, ONCE COUNCIL APPROVES IT, WE SUBMIT IT TO HUD IN THE MIDDLE OF AUGUST. AND THEN AS LONG AS EVERYTHING GOES GOOD, THEN WE ARE GOOD TO GO. WE NEED DO, IF YOU WANT TO, IT'S UP TO YOU. WE DO, WE DO NEED THIS ON THE 14TH. DEFINITELY 14TH. JUNE 14TH, RIGHT? JUNE 14TH. YES SIR. AND THEN, UM, SO THAT'S IT KIND OF FOR THE REST OF OUR SCHEDULE. JUNE 14TH SHOULD BE OUR LAST MEETING UNTIL DECEMBER. UNLESS THERE SPECIAL, UNLESS THERE'S A SPECIAL CIRCUMSTANCE THAT COMES UP. I DO START, ONCE WE GET ALL OF THIS, UM, DONE, I WANNA START LOOKING AT INCREASING THE MAXIMUM SALES PRICE FOR HOME BUYERS. YOU GOTTA REALLY LOOK AT THAT. UM, AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE, WE'D HAVE TO DECIDE ON A NUMBER IN HOUSE BEFORE WE PRESENT IT TO Y'ALL. THAT WAY WE HAVE ALL OUR HOMEWORK DONE ON THAT IN CASE MR. SINGH ASKS ME QUESTIONS. AND UH, SO WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE'RE GOOD ON THAT. AND THEN ANOTHER THING THAT I WANTED TO TALK TO Y'ALL ABOUT WAS A TONIGHT'S MEETING. SO IT ALMOST DIDN'T HAPPEN BECAUSE WE MIGHT NOT HAVE HAD A QUORUM. RIGHT NOW, THE WAY A QUORUM IS COUNTED IS BY THE NUMBER OF NOT APPOINTED OFFICIALS, BUT THE NUMBER OF BOARD MEMBERS THAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO HAVE. SO BECAUSE WE'RE SUPPOSED TO HAVE NINE, THAT MEANS WE NEED FIVE FOR A QUARTER, WHICH IS WHY YOU COULDN'T DO IT VIRTUALLY. 'CAUSE YOUR VOTE WOULDN'T HAVE COUNTED, WOULDN'T, YOUR ATTENDANCE WOULDN'T HAVE COUNTED. WHICH IS WHY I APPRECIATE YOU COMING IN. SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT CHRIS HAD STARTED WORKING ON LAST YEAR, BUT WE NEVER REALLY KIND OF FINISHED IT WAS, UH, RULES AND PROCEDURES FOR THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT ADVISORY COMMITTEE. AND ONE OF THE ITEMS ON THAT, RULES AND PROCEDURES, THE MAIN REASON THAT WE WERE DOING IT WAS SO THAT A QUORUM CAN BE COUNTED BY THE NUMBER OF APPOINTED MEMBERS, WHICH WILL MAKE IT A LOT EASIER ON US TO BE ABLE TO CONDUCT BUSINESS BECAUSE WE DO HAVE TWO SOON TO BE THREE VACANCIES. UM, IF WE DON'T HEAR BACK FROM MR. BARNETT BY ABOUT FIRST, SECOND WEEK OF JUNE, THEN WE'RE GONNA POST THIS POSITION AS AVAILABLE. SO, UM, AT THE NEXT MEETING PRIOR TO THE NEXT MEETING, I'M GONNA BE EMAILING YOU THE RULES AND CONDITIONS, THE RULES AND SEIZURES SO THAT Y'ALL LOOK IT OVER AND WE CAN, UM, DISCUSS IT AT THE NEXT MEETING AND MAYBE VOTE ON PUTTING IT INTO PRACTICE. THAT WAY I DON'T HAVE TO CALL MR. PRI AND TELL HIM HE HAS TO COME IN BECAUSE THEN OUR COURT WOULD'VE BEEN FOUR AND WE WOULD'VE BEEN GOOD. YOU COULD'VE DONE IT ONLINE. YOUR VOTE WOULDN'T HAVE ACCOUNTED. YOU COULD'VE GIVEN US YOUR 2 CENTS, YOU KNOW, BUT BECAUSE, UM, WE HAVE TO GO BY THE FIVE IS A QUORUM THING. THAT'S WHY I REALLY NEEDED EVERYBODY HERE, WHICH IS WHY WE WERE WILLING TO WAIT. I MEAN, WE LITERALLY, I WAS LIKE, HE'S GONNA BE LATE. WE TOLD THEM YOU WOULD BE HERE, THERE. SHE HAD FAITH. I DID HAVE FAITH COUNT TO CALL YOU. BUT DO THE TEACHER LOOK AT DON. ALL THE TEACHERS LOVE ME. QUESTION. YES. DID WE HAVE ANYBODY COME TO THE PUBLIC HEARING IN THE BUDGET THAT WE APPROVED LAST YEAR? JUST WONDERING HOW, HOW COMMON IS THAT WHAT YOU EXPECT FOR THE JUNE 14TH? ALL DEPENDS. YOU NEVER KNOW WHAT THE PUBLIC HEARING IS. SO OTHER THAN THAT, UM, THAT'S ALL I HAVE. IF EVERYBODY IS GOOD, IT WOULD BE BEFORE I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN. A JUNE. I CAN'T SAY HOW YOU SAY IT. ADJOURN. ADJOURN THIS MEETING. ALL IN FAVOR? [01:55:01] AYE. AYE. SO WHAT'S UP WITH THE TIRE? * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.