May 24, 2022 Baytown Police Advisory Committee

WE ARE GOING TO MOVE ON.

UM, I DO WANT TO JUST, WE WILL BE, JUST BY WAY OF THAT, UH, WE, WE WILL BE TALKING ABOUT THIS IN A MINUTE, BUT WE DO WANT TO ENCOURAGE, UH, THE CONSTITUENCY OF THE CITY OF BAYTOWN TO, UH, CONSIDER, UH, CITIZENS' INPUT.

AND THIS IS THE BEST FORUM IN ORDER TO, UH, HEAR ANY CONCERNS REGARDING, UH, BAYTOWN POLICE DEPARTMENT FOR THAT.

[a. Discuss and consider the presentation of the Baytown Police Advisory Committee's quarterly report to the City Council on May 26, 2022.]

MOVING ON TO OUR BUSINESS ITEMS, AND THAT'S GONNA BE ITEM THREE.

A, UH, FIRST ITEM IS, UH, THREE A IS GOING TO BE TO, TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER THE PRESENTATION OF THE BAYTOWN POLICE ADVISORY COMMITTEE'S QUARTERLY REPORT, UH, TO THE CITY COUNCIL.

UH, I HAVE MY DRAFT IN FRONT OF YOU.

IT IS JUST SIMPLE, UH, PLAIN JANE VANILLA, NO GRAPHICS YET.

UH, BUT, UH, WE, I JUST, DR. MORENO AND I JUST BRIEFLY DISCUSSED THIS, AND I PUT SOME OF THE, THE ITEMS, UH, TOGETHER.

LO AND BEHOLD, IT DID COME THROUGH RAQUEL.

GOOD.

TRYING TO CREATE SOME INTEREST, UH, ON THE CITIZEN'S INPUT.

FOR SOME REASON, WHENEVER I PULLED UP MY PRESENTATION A WHILE AGO, THE, UH, THE GRID ON THE SECOND PAGE THERE.

SO, UM, LOOKING AT SLIDE NUMBER TWO, WE'RE JUST GONNA IN, UH, INFORM THE COMMITTEE OR THE COUNCIL OF THE COMMITTEE'S NEW OFFICERS, AND THEN LET THEM KNOW THAT WE STILL CURRENTLY HAVE A VACANCY FOR DISTRICT SIX.

AND MS. ANGIE INFORMED ME THAT AS OF THE REPORT, I WILL NEED TO GO AHEAD AND SAY, UH, THE VACANCY FOR, UH, THE MAYOR AT LARGE.

SO I'M GONNA MAKE THAT, UM, THAT CHANGE TO THE REPORT, BECAUSE AS OF THE TIME THAT WE GIVE THE REPORT, UM, THE NEW POSITION WILL NOT BE FILLED.

BUT WE DO, WE DO HAVE A PENDING APPOINTMENT, UH, TO THE BAYTOWN POLICE ADVISORY, UH, COMMITTEE.

SO WE WILL NEED TO, UM, MAKE NOTE OF THAT.

ON THE THIRD SLIDE, UH, IT'S GONNA BE JUST THE, UH, ALL OF OUR NAMES AND THE, UH, TITLES IN THE DISTRICTS AND THE POSITIONS THAT WE ARE REPRESENTING.

UM, THEN GOING TO SLIDE NUMBER FOUR, UH, DR. MORENO AND I HAD A GOOD DISCUSSION ABOUT THIS, AND JUST TO LET THE, UM, LET THE COUNCIL KNOW THAT OUR, OUR COMMITTEE FOCUS IS GOING TO, TO STAY IN THE LANE OF ADVISORY COMMITTEE TO THE COUNCIL, UH, WITH NO, UM, WITH NO OVERSIGHT, UM, AUTHORITY WHATSOEVER.

UM, BECAUSE THE, YOU KNOW, WE, WE DON'T HAVE, UH, OVERSIGHT AUTHORITY BECAUSE THE TEXAS LEGISLATURE, AS WELL AS THE TEXAS COMMISSION OF LAW ENFORCEMENT, YOU KNOW, DEFINITELY COVERS, UM, A LOT OF THE POLICY TRAINING PROCEDURES AND EVERYTHING THAT, UM, THAT THE BAYTOWN POLICE DEPARTMENT ABIDES BY.

AND SO, OUR AUTHORITY HERE AS THE BAYTOWN POLICE ADVISORY COMMITTEE, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE NO OVERSIGHT.

WE HAVE NO POLICY AND PROCEDURE CHANGE AUTHORITY WHATSOEVER.

UH, SO WE'RE JUST KIND OF BRINGING THAT BACK TO THE FOREFRONT, UH, IN FRONT OF THE COUNCIL.

AND ALSO JUST KIND OF GOING ON RECORD OF, OF WHAT, WHAT WE ARE.

BUT, UH, GOING TO, UH, THE NEXT SLIDE, I THINK IT'S SLIDE NUMBER FIVE, AND THAT'S GOING TO BE, UM, I'M SORRY, SLIDE NUMBER SIX.

AND THAT'S GOING TO BE THE COMMUNITY OUTREACH.

UM, AND WHERE EACH COMMITTEE MEMBER IS REACHING OUT TO THEIR RESPECTIVE DISTRICTS AND TRYING TO SEE IF THERE'S ANY ISSUES FROM VARIOUS AREAS.

AND THEN THE, THOSE THAT ARE REPRESENTING THE CITY MANAGER, UH, THE MAYOR AND THE POLICE CHIEF, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO GET SOME INPUT AND, UH, GO FROM THERE.

AND THEN REGARDING CITIZEN INPUT, UH, WE'LL BE TALKING MORE ABOUT IT, BUT HOPEFULLY BY THAT TIME WE'LL HAVE A, HAVE SOME INFORMATION THAT WE'LL BE ABLE TO, TO GIVE TO THE, THE COUNCIL REGARDING

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UM, AND HOPEFULLY WE'LL BE ABLE TO INTRODUCE THAT FULLY AT THE, THE COUNCIL MEETING.

THAT'S ONE OF THE BUSINESS ITEMS. SO I'M NOT GONNA GO THERE JUST YET, BUT WE'LL COME BACK AROUND TO THAT.

BUT ALSO GETTING OUT IN THE COMMUNITY, UM, BECAUSE DR. MORENO AND I HAVE BEEN LOOKING AT SEVERAL OPTIONS, AND, UH, SHE'LL BE ADDRESSING, UH, ONE HOPEFUL, HOPEFULLY VERY EXCITING EVENT COMING UP, UH, IN JUNE.

THAT, THAT IF ALL GOES WELL, WE'RE OUR NEXT MEETING MAY NOT BE HERE IN, IN COUNCIL CHAMBERS.

SO WE'LL, WE'LL HOPE TO GET THAT SQUARED AWAY, BUT WE WANT TO GET OUT IN THE COMMUNITY AND, AND HEAR LEGITIMATE CONCERNS FROM, UM, FROM THE CITIZENS AND GO FROM THERE.

UM, AND THEN THE NEXT SLIDE, SLIDE NUMBER SIX, ACKNOWLEDGEMENT.

UM, WE'VE, WE'VE REALLY RECEIVED SOME, SOME GOOD INPUT CHIEF STRINGER, UH, FOR ADDRESSING THE CULTURAL DIVERSITY AND THE CONCERNS OF THE COMMUNITY, AS WELL AS ADVISORY MEMBERS.

SO WE WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE YOU IN FRONT OF, UH, COUNCIL FOR THAT.

AND THEN WE WILL, UH, ENTERTAIN QUESTIONS FROM THE COUNCIL.

SO FROM THIS COMMITTEE, ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS OR POINTS THAT, UH, WE MAY NEED TO, UH, BOER UP? ONE OF THE, ONE OF THE THINGS, UM, GOING BACK TO, UM, I THINK IT WAS THE, UH, YEAH, THE SECOND, UM, THE SECOND SLIDE WHERE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE ELECTION OF OFFICERS, THINGS OF THAT NATURE.

UH, ONE OF THE THINGS I WAS GONNA JUST VERBALLY SAY IS, WE'VE HAD FEWER MEETINGS DUE TO A LACK OF QUORUM DUE TO A LACK OF MEMBERS AND ALL OF THAT.

UH, SO WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF SUBSTANCE TO REPORT THIS QUARTER.

UM, SO, BUT I WILL ENTERTAIN ANY, ANY COMMENTS OR CONCERNS, QUESTIONS FROM THE DIOCESE IN ORDER TO, UH, REGARDING THE PRESENTATION, DO WE KNOW HOW MANY, UM, MEETINGS WE HAD TO NOT HAVE BECAUSE OF LACK OF QUORUM? WAS IT THREE? WAS IT JANUARY, FEBRUARY? IT WAS JANUARY OR FEBRUARY? JUST TWO, RIGHT? TWO.

THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING THAT.

DR. MORENO.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS? YES, MA'AM.

MS. YOLANDA, WELL, I DON'T WANT TO SEEM IGNORANCE, BUT, UM, OVERSIGHT AUTHORITY.

YES, MA'AM.

WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? THAT MEANS LEGISLATIVE, UH, AND HAS MORE TO DO WITH POLICY AND PROCEDURES MM-HMM .

UM, WHEREAS OUR, THE ROLE AT, YOU KNOW, JUST BY THE NAME OF BAYTOWN POLICE ADVISORY COMMITTEE, UM, WE, WE DO NOT HAVE ANY AUTHORITY WHATSOEVER TO MAKE CHANGES.

WE CAN RECEIVE INFORMATION, WE CAN COLLECT, YOU KNOW, AS MUCH DATA AS WE POSSIBLY CAN REGARDING, I MEAN, WE ALL KNOW THAT THERE'S BAD SITUATIONS GOING ON IN ALL INDUSTRIES, THINGS OF THAT NATURE, SPECIFICALLY TO THE BAYTOWN POLICE DEPARTMENT.

IF, IF THIS COMMITTEE RECEIVES ENOUGH DETAILS RELATING TO, UH, AN ONGOING OR REOCCURRING, UM, CLASSIFICATION OF A SITUATION, THEN THAT IS SOMETHING THAT, UH, WE, ALONG WITH THE GUIDANCE OF, OF CHIEF STRINGER AND ANYBODY ELSE THAT WE, WE SEE NECESSARY TO COLLECT THE NECESSARY DATA, THEN WE CAN GO TO COUNSEL AND SAY, THIS IS A REOCCURRING SITUATION THAT WE, WE FEEL NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED.

DOES THAT MAKE, IS THAT IT MAKES SENSE.

SO IF, IF SOMEONE, LET'S JUST SAY WE'RE, HOLD ON, TURN THAT MICROPHONE ON.

UM, SO WHAT YOU'RE SEEING IS IF WE'RE OUT IN THE COMMUNITY AND SOMEONE COMES AND THEY, THEY HAVE AN ISSUE OR A CONCERN, WE TAKE THE DATA AND PRESENT IT TO THE CHIEF.

WELL, I, I THINK THAT, AND I, I WOULD ENTERTAIN ANY OTHER INPUT AS WELL.

I DON'T WANNA SOUND LIKE A MIC CALL 'CAUSE I AM A PREACHER.

SO ANYWAY, , I THINK THE BEST ROUTE FOR THAT WOULD BE THAT IF THE CITIZEN WOULD BE WILLING TO COME AND PRESENT IN THAT THREE MINUTES OF THAT, THAT CITIZEN'S INPUT.

HERE, OBVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW, YOU ARE THEIR REPRESENTATIVE IN THEIR DISTRICT, BUT EVEN IF IT'S NOT IN YOUR DISTRICT, SOMEBODY THAT, THAT IF THERE IS A VALID, LEGITIMATE CONCERN THAT RELATES TO POLICING IN THE CITY OF BAYTOWN, THEN OBVIOUSLY BRING THAT INFORMATION TO US.

SO REFER THEM TO THAT, TO REF, TO INVITE THEM TO BE A PART OF THIS.

NOW, IF THERE'S EXTENUATING CIRCUMSTANCES THAT THEY MAY NOT BE ABLE TO COME RIGHT.

AND, AND BE

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AND SO THAT WE CAN, BECAUSE I, I, I DON'T WANNA OVER OVERSTEP MY BOUNDS, BUT I THINK DR. MORENO AND I, IN TALKING, WE WANT TO HEAR THOSE LEGITIMATE CONCERNS.

AND I THINK ALL OF US HERE ON THE DAIS, WE, WE WANT THOSE, WE WANT TO HEAR THOSE LEGITIMATE CONCERNS.

AND IF, IF I MAY ADD, THEY ALSO WANT TO KNOW THINGS THAT ARE BEING DONE, RIGHT? ABSOLUTELY.

BECAUSE THAT WHOLE IMPORTANT THING IS TO GET THAT FLOW OF COMMUNICATION, THAT FEEDBACK.

THEY MAY NOT REALIZE THAT THIS ONE LITTLE THING OVER HERE IS MAKING A BIG IMPACT ON PEOPLE, OR THAT THIS ONE LITTLE THING IS HAVING A NEGATIVE IMPACT.

I MEAN, WHICHEVER IT IS, THE FEEDBACK, THE COMMUNICATION IS, IS THE BEST THING.

OR, OR, OR IF I MAY, ANY GOOD IDEAS THAT PEOPLE MIGHT HAVE .

LIKE ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THAT WE TALK ABOUT IS THERE'S MILLION DOLLAR IDEAS RIDING AROUND IN OUR POLICE CARS.

SO WE'VE GOTTA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE CONNECTING WITH OUR LINE LEVEL OFFICERS BECAUSE THEY'VE GOT IDEAS.

WE JUST NEED TO GET 'EM TO TALK TO US.

OUR CITIZENS ARE THE SAME WAY.

THEY MAY HAVE A FANTASTIC IDEA.

AND, YOU KNOW, WE MAY REVOLUTIONIZE ONE SMALL AREA OF LAW ENFORCEMENT ACROSS THE COUNTRY BECAUSE, UH, YOU KNOW, A YOUNG MAN OR YOUNG WOMAN IN OUR COMMUNITY HAD A REALLY GOOD IDEA.

SO WE WANT TO HEAR THAT TOO.

SO, I HAVE A QUESTION, FOLLOW UP QUESTION.

IF, UM, OBVIOUSLY THE LAST TIME WE CAME, THAT WAS A CITIZEN THAT WAS CONCERNED.

SO I REACHED OUT TO HIM AND I ENCOURAGED HIM TO COME AND HE DID.

BUT HAD HE NOT COME BECAUSE OF ROBERT'S RULES OF ORDER, 'CAUSE I'M STILL TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THAT I LOOK AT YOU BECAUSE I DON'T, UM, WOULD, WOULD I GIVE THAT INFORMATION DURING THE CITIZEN'S INPUT IN LIEU OF THAT PERSON? OR DO I, DO I SAY, BECAUSE IT'S NOT GONNA BE ON THE AGENDA, RIGHT? YEAH.

I MEAN, IT, WE, AND MAYBE THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE WANNA TALK ABOUT, HAVING A TOPIC, UH, PUT ON OUR AGENDA FOR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, AS IT STANDS NOW, IT REALLY WOULDN'T FIT.

RIGHT? UM, SO MAYBE WE DO WANNA THINK ABOUT PUTTING A GENERIC STATEMENT OF, UH, YOU KNOW, LIKE COMMUNITY FEEDBACK AND, AND MAKE IT KIND OF, UH, GENERIC.

WE'D HAVE TO STAY ON THAT AND NOT VEER OFF.

BUT, UM, I, I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, DEFINITELY IS A POSSIBILITY.

BUT YOU'RE RIGHT.

I MEAN, UNDER NORMAL CIRCUMSTANCES, YOU WOULD NOT BE THE CITIZEN INPUT BECAUSE YOU'RE ON THE COMMITTEE.

BUT I THINK SHE HAS A POINT THOUGH, BECAUSE IF WE ALREADY HAVE HERE COMM UNDER COMMUNITY OUTREACH, EACH COMMUNITY MEMBER IS REACHING OUT TO THEIR RESPECTIVE DISTRICTS IF PEOPLE DON'T FEEL COMFORTABLE.

MAYBE WE SHOULD ADD THAT PIECE.

I, I THINK I, I THINK DR. MORENO IS, IS ASKING THE RIGHT QUESTION HERE.

AND THAT IS, WE ARE, WE DO HAVE AN ALLOTTED PLACE FOR CITIZEN INPUT, BUT IF WE DID, UH, ADD IN INTO THE, UH, AGENDA JUST COMMITTEE, OR ADVISORY COMMITTEE MM-HMM .

INPUT.

SOMETHING LIKE FEEDBACK FROM THE COMMUNITY.

UM, SOMETHING ALONG THAT YOU CAN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY.

WE COULD AT LEAST SAY I HAVE NOT HEARD ANYTHING AS OF YET.

I MEAN, BUT AT LEAST IT'S THERE FOR US TO BE ABLE TO SURE.

SPEAK.

SO I DON'T WANT TO GET OUT OF ORDER HERE.

WHAT IS THE BEST PROTOCOL TO GO AHEAD AND MAKE THAT A PART OF OUR STANDING? UM, WE WOULD WANT TO PUT THAT DOWN AT THE, UH, THE, WE SHOULD HAVE A SECTION ON NEW BUSINESS ITEMS. OKAY.

OR, I'M TRYING TO SEE HERE.

UH, NEXT MEETING.

FOUR A.

WE WANNA PUT IT UNDER FOUR.

WE'LL DISCUSS IT UNDER FOUR A.

SO MAKE A FOUR B AGENDA ITEMS. OKAY.

LET'S GET BACK TO OUR MAIN POINT HERE.

UH, ANY, ANY OTHER ADDITIONAL CONCERNS REGARDING THE PRESENTATION FOR COUNCIL ON THURSDAY NIGHT? AND I WOULD ENCOURAGE EVERYBODY THAT CAN PLEASE BE HERE.

UM, THE COUNCIL MEETING BEGINS AT SIX 30.

UM, I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHERE WE ARE ON THE AGENDA JUST YET, BUT YOU CLOSE TO US THE END.

SO 10 A 10 A, SO IF YOU GET HERE AT SEVEN O'CLOCK, YOU MIGHT GET HERE.

SEVEN 15 .

SO, ALL IN FAVOR OF, OF ACCEPTING THE, THE REPORT.

I WILL MAKE IT PRETTY, I NEED A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE REPORT.

MOTION TO ACCEPT THE REPORT.

MR. RICHARD HUNTS.

HEY.

AND I, I BEAT HER SI SECOND.

AND LIEUTENANT EVANS MADE THE SECOND .

YOU BEAT ME THE FIRST, SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR WITH A SIGN OF AYE.

GOING DOWN TO ITEM THREE B.

ALL OPPOSED.

SAME SIGN.

AND IT IS CARRIED ALL

[b. Consider setting any tasks and processes for future meetings, to include: a. Community Engagement Initiatives; b. Recording a BPAC public service announcement to be advertised on Channel 16 and social media; c. Seek clarification or direction for the Committee's purpose and/or mission; and d. Creation of an election policy to be reviewed at a future meeting.]

UH, CONSIDER SETTING ANY TASK AND PROCESSES FOR FUTURE MEETINGS TO INCLUDE.

AND WE WANT THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT IN INITIATIVES.

UM,

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SO, UH, I'M GONNA SPEAK TO THAT AND THEN I WANT DR. MORENO TO HOPEFULLY GIVE US THE GOOD NEWS THAT SHE WAS WORKING ON THE OTHER DAY, THAT ON THE VENUE MM-HMM .

AND, UH, SO, UH, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT WANTING TO GET OUTSIDE OF THIS ROOM AND ENGAGE THE COMMUNITY.

AND SO, UM, WE, UH, WE'VE BEGAN THE PROCESS.

AND SO IN A CONVERSATION THE OTHER DAY, UH, DR. MORENO INTRODUCED AN IDEA.

SO I'M GONNA, I'M GONNA TURN THE MICROPHONE OVER TO HER AND HOPEFULLY SHE'S GONNA GIVE US SOME GOOD NEWS THAT WILL, UH, HELP US GET OUTSIDE AND OUR, ONE OF OUR FUTURE MEETINGS WILL BE AT A DIFFERENT LOCATION.

I GUESS YOU DIDN'T WANT ME TO YELL ? UM, OKAY.

SO, BECAUSE I WORK AT THE COLLEGE, UH, I DID REACH OUT TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT POSSIBLY USING TUCKER HALL, WHERE WE HAVE OUR BOARD MEETINGS AS A, A POSSIBLE VENUE.

IT'S MIDDLE OF THE PEOPLE ARE COMFORTABLE WITH BEING AT THE COLLEGE OR ANY KIND OF SCHOOL, BUT I THINK THE COLLEGE IS PROBABLY THE MOST, UH, OPPORTUNE PLACE.

THERE IS A FEE WITH IT THOUGH, UNLESS I HAVE TO, IF, UNLESS I CAN STRONG ARM SOMEONE AND SEE IF THERE'S A WAY.

BUT I CAN GET A DISCOUNT OF A HUNDRED.

IT'S GONNA BE $150 TO RENT OUT THE FACILITY FOR FIVE HOURS, BUT WE DON'T NEED IT FOR FIVE HOURS, SO UP TO FIVE HOURS.

SO I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT THE PROTOCOL WAS IN TERMS OF RENTAL AND LIKE, WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE IN TERMS OF MOVING THE MEETING.

I, I HAVE NOT BEEN TOLD THAT THIS COMMITTEE HAS ANY KIND OF BUDGET.

THAT'S THE ONLY THING I WOULD BE CONCERNED ABOUT.

UM, SO I CAN, BUT WE COULD WRITE A LETTER ASKING IF THEY COULD CONSIDER IT A PUBLIC PURPOSE AND MAYBE BE WILLING.

I MEAN, THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL IF, IF I CAN GET SOME TYPE OF LETTER.

I JUST DIDN'T KNOW WHO TO BRING IT TO OR, OR WHATNOT.

BUT I DID FIND OUT IT'S TYPICALLY 300, BUT BECAUSE I'M AN EMPLOYEE, THEY, THEY SAID HALF, HALF OF IT, OR IF Y'ALL CAME, Y'ALL CAN HAVE A TAX EXEMPTION OF HALF OF IT.

SO I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW WHAT, I'LL FIND OUT MORE INFORMATION, BUT YES, A LETTER WOULD BE NICE.

SOUNDS GOOD.

YOU AND I'LL TALK LATER.

AND THEY, HE DOES HAVE THE TWO DATES THAT WE DISCUSSED AS OPTIONS, WHICH ARE JUNE 21ST OR JUNE 28TH.

UM, I'M JUST THINKING OF PROTOCOL ON, ON SETTING OUR NEXT MEETING.

CAN WE DO A, TO BE DETERMINED ON THAT, ON OUR NEXT MEETING AFTER Y'ALL IRON OUT SOME OF THE DETAILS AND GO FROM THERE? UM, YOU, I MEAN, YOU CAN, WE NEED TO SET IT AS A COMMITTEE.

YOU GUYS CAN DECIDE TO DO THAT.

UM, AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST, IT'S UP TO YOU GUYS ON HOW YOU WANNA DO THAT.

WHAT WAS YOUR COMMENT, DR. MORENO? I SAID WE NEED TO SET IT BEFORE WE LEAVE.

I DON'T WANNA WAIT ON THIS, ON THE VENUE.

'CAUSE IF ALL ELSE FAILS, WE JUST COME BACK HERE.

SO THE, THE OTHER CONCERN IS DR. MORENO WILL BE UNAVAILABLE ON JUNE THE 28TH.

UM, SO IF WE MOVE THIS MEETING, AND I HATE TO JUMP AHEAD.

YOU ARE JUMPING AHEAD, .

I AM A JUMPING AHEAD.

UH, SO LET'S DO THIS.

ARE, ARE WE IN FAVOR OF, OF TRYING TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS AS A COMMITTEE TO GET IT OUT INTO THE COMMUNITY? I THINK THAT'S AWESOME.

I GET, I'M GETTING A, A NOD FROM ALL OF THE, THE AROUND THE DAIS HERE, SO, OKAY.

SO IF, WE'LL, WE'LL, WE'LL TALK ABOUT THE ACTUAL DATE IN JUST A MOMENT, BUT I THINK IT'S A GOOD THING THAT WE ARE, WE'RE MOVING FORWARD.

I DIDN'T WANNA DISMISS THOUGH, WHAT, UM, LIEUTENANT HINOJOSA, IS HE LIEUTENANT? YES.

UH, LIEUTENANT HINOJOSA HAD DISCUSSED, UM, WHEN HE TALKED ABOUT POSSIBLY THROUGH HIS GROUP, HAVING IT OUT SOMEWHERE IN THE, IN, IN THAT COMMUNITY WHERE THEY'RE WORKING.

SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S AN OPTION FOR US TO FURTHER DISCUSS WITH HIM.

IT'S, UM, I, I DID TALK WITH RENEE AFTER WE, AFTER WE TALKED AND, UM, THEY'RE, THEY'RE NOT REALLY AT THE POINT YET.

OF, UH, HAVING A FORMALIZED MEETING WITH THE COMMUNITY OUT ON THEIR OWN.

YOU KNOW, THEY DID IT WITH A FESTIVAL BEFORE IT TIED INTO THAT, SO THEY'RE NOT QUITE READY.

UM, I DID, UH, BRING UP TO HIM THE QUESTIONS AND, AND, UH, THE EAGERNESS FOR YOU GUYS THAT WERE WANTING TO HAVE ANOTHER LOCATION, AND HE KIND OF FELL BACK ON THINGS THAT I THINK WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IN THE PAST, WHICH IS CHURCHES MM-HMM .

UM, AND HE SEEMED TO THINK THAT THE CHURCHES WOULD BE VERY, VERY OPEN, UH, TO THAT.

UH, BUT HE SAID THEY DON'T HAVE ANY SPECIFIC MEETINGS.

WHAT THE, BESIDES THE FESTIVAL, THE MEETINGS THAT THEY HAD WERE JUST FOR THE STAFF AND THEY HAD THAT AT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, WHICH OBVIOUSLY WE KNOW WE DIDN'T, WE WEREN'T INTERESTED IN THAT MM-HMM .

UM, SO, UH, HE, HE DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING SPECIFIC FOR US YET.

WELL, IF WE CAN DEFINITELY FOR THE FUTURE THOUGH, I MEAN, I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE LIKE MAYBE A YEAH, DEFINITELY THE FUTURE WITHOUT A DOUBT.

LIKE MAYBE A FALL FEST IN AUGUST OR SEPTEMBER, SHOOT FOR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

THAT WOULD BE AMAZING TO, TO DO SOMETHING TOGETHER.

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I SPECIFIC BOTH AT THE TIME AND I THOUGHT I SAW SIX 30.

OH, THAT'S ALL RIGHT.

SO WE WILL MOVE FORWARD ON THE, UH, COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT INITIATIVES AND, UH, FUTURE MEETINGS OUTSIDE OF HERE.

AND THEN WE WILL, UH, TALK ABOUT THE NEXT MEETING AT THE APPROPRIATE TIME.

UM, DO I NEED TO MAKE A MOTION OR VOTE ON THAT? UH, NO.

I MEAN, YOU COULD GET A CONSENSUS ABOUT, UH, DEFINITELY WANTING TO HAVE A DIFFERENT LOCATION FOR YOUR NEXT MEETING.

LET'S DO THAT.

DO I HAVE A MOTION TO, UH, TO HAVE A CONSENSUS THAT, OR ? DO WE JUST, HOW DO WE DO THAT ? YOU CAN JUST, YOU CAN JUST ASK THEM, UH, IF A CONSENSUS.

DO WE HAVE A CONSENSUS? DO YOU HAVE EVERYBODY IN FAVOR? EVERYBODY IN FAVOR OF HAVING A MEETING AT ANOTHER LOCATION OTHER THAN CITY HALL FOR OUR JUNE MEETING? FOR OUR ANY FUTURE MEETING OR ANY FUTURE MEETING? YEAH.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

SO WE'LL START MOVING FORWARD ON THOSE, THOSE OPPORTUNITIES AVAILED TO US.

MOVING DOWN TO THREE B AND THAT IS RECORDING A BAYTOWN POLICE ADVISORY COMMITTEE, PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT, UH, TO BE ADVERTISED ON CHANNEL 16 AS WELL AS SOCIAL MEDIA.

LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND.

AND THAT IS, UM, THE OTHER STRATEGIC COMMITTEE, COMMITTEE THAT WAS, THAT WAS INITIATED ABOUT THE SAME TIME AS BAYTOWN POLICE ADVISORY, UH, COMMITTEE.

THEY DID A, UH, INFOMERCIAL, I GUESS, OF SORTS, UH, LETTING THE COMMUNITY KNOW ABOUT, UH, WHAT THEY WERE ATTEMPTING TO DO.

UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I'VE KIND OF EXPLORED AND, UH, CHATTED WITH, UH, DR. MORENO ABOUT IS GETTING OUT IN THE COMMUNITY AND UTILIZING IT ON BAYTOWN POLICE, UH, SOCIAL MEDIA CITY, YOU KNOW, ALL OF THE, THE APPROVED SOCIAL MEDIAS.

UH, TALKED TO THE PR DIRECTOR, I GUESS IS OVER THE, OVER THE STATION.

AND HE SAID THAT WE COULD VERY EASILY MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT.

UM, SO IS ANY ANY CONCERNS ABOUT DOING THAT BEFORE WE MOVE TO WHETHER OR NOT WE WANT TO DO IT? UM, 'CAUSE WE'RE ULTIMATELY WANTING CITIZEN INPUT.

THAT'S WHAT OUR, OUR GOAL HERE IS, UH, BOTH FOR THE CONCERNS AS WELL AS ALSO THE IDEAS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.

SO, UM, IS, IS, IS THIS A GOOD IDEA FROM THE COMMITTEE? BAD IDEA.

UM, WRAP IT UP WITH A PURPOSE THAT MAKES SENSE.

BUT, BUT THEN I THINK, I THINK ANYTIME WE CAN GET OUT IN FRONT OF THE COMMUNITY WITH SOMETHING ON SOCIAL MEDIA AND THE TV, IT'S, IT'S BETTER FOR EVERYBODY, BUT WE JUST HAVE TO BE VERY CONCISE AND PURPOSEFUL WITH INTENT.

I THINK IF WE HAVE OUR FUTURE GOALS IN LINE, YOU KNOW, WHERE WE CAN PROMOTE WHAT WE PLAN TO ACCOMPLISH IN THE FUTURE, I THINK THAT WOULD BE NECESSARY BEFORE WE GO ABOUT TELLING THIS COMMUNITY WHAT WE'RE DOING.

WE NEED TO KNOW WHAT WE'RE DOING.

ANY OTHER SUGGESTIONS OR ANY OTHER CONCERNS? DID YOU IDENTIFY WHO'S GONNA BE CHARGED WITH THIS TASK? NOT YET.

I WOULD THINK THEY COULD BE PRODUCERS, BUT I DON'T THINK, I THINK WE SHOULD BE THE ONES TALKING.

THAT, THAT WAS ONE OF MY NEXT QUESTIONS THAT, THAT I WILL BE BE ASKING.

UM, BECAUSE IT, IT WILL HAVE TO BE A SCRIPTED, UM, INFOMERCIAL.

AND SO, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T WANT IT TO BE MONOTONOUS IN ONE VOICE AND WE WANT YOUR INPUT.

UH, BUT RATHER, I MEAN, IF, IF THERE'S SOME THOSE FROM THIS, THIS COMMITTEE THAT WANT TO TAKE PART IN IT, WE WOULD WELCOME IT.

UM, AND SO IF, YOU KNOW, WOULD, WOULD THERE BE PEOPLE ON THIS, ON THIS COMMITTEE WILLING TO, YOU KNOW, DO A FIVE TO EIGHT SECOND BLURB OF, YOU KNOW, INVITING? BECAUSE I THINK IT WOULD BE VERY, VERY BENEFICIAL TO SEE THE DIVERSITY OF CULTURE AND, AND ETHNICITY AND ALL OF THAT IN THIS, UH, INFOMERCIAL THAT'S, YOU KNOW, APPEALING TO OUR CONSTITUENCY TO, TO GIVE US SOME INPUT SO THAT WE CAN MOVE FORWARD.

UM, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT THE COLLEGE STUDENTS THAT IN THE MEDIA DEPARTMENT MIGHT, COULD DO A PRODUCTION AND WE COULD HAVE STUDENTS ACTUALLY THE DIVERSE GROUP OF STUDENTS ACTUALLY BE IN THE ONES TALKING? I MEAN, WHO IS THE TARGET AUDIENCE?

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I MEAN, I CAN, WE HAVE A, A MARKETING TEAM.

WE DON'T HAVE A MEDIA AREA, BUT, UM, IN TERMS OF, WE DON'T HAVE THAT.

WE DON'T HAVE THAT MAJOR OH, OKAY.

UM, BUT YEAH, WE GET, WE, WE DO HAVE A MARKETING TEAM OF, OF PEOPLE.

UH, I DON'T MIND DOING IT.

I DO IT FOR MY CHURCH ALL THE TIME, SO THAT DOESN'T BOTHER ME.

AND YOU COULD ALSO, IF I MAY MAKE A LITTLE SUGGESTION, UH, YOU KNOW, LLOYD DOES A LOT OF VOICEOVERS.

UM, AND PART OF WHAT YOU MAY WANT TO DO TO KIND OF MAKE IT NOT BE MONOTONOUS IS HAVE SOME OVERLAY OF SOME PHOTOGRAPHS.

LIKE WHENEVER YOUR NEXT, UH, MEETING, IF IT IS INDEED NOT HERE, WOULDN'T IT BE NICE TO HAVE SOME PHOTOGRAPHS OF MAYBE SOMEBODY STANDING UP TALKING AND HAVE THAT WITH MAYBE SOME VOICEOVER TOO? YEAH.

AGAIN, IT'S JUST A THOUGHT.

LLOYD'S REALLY GOOD AND VERY CREATIVE WITH STUFF LIKE THAT.

UM, DEFINITELY, DEFINITELY.

THAT'S, THAT'S A PERSPECTIVE I HADN'T EVEN THOUGHT ABOUT.

'CAUSE THERE'S SO MUCH OF THAT.

AND WE WILL ALSO LEAN ON OUR FRIEND MARK ON THE FRONT ROW OF, FOR THE BAYTOWN SUN.

ALWAYS THERE TO GIVE US A PLUG.

WELL, YOU KNOW, WHEN THEY HAVE THOSE COMMERCIALS AND THEY'RE GIVING YOU THE NEGATIVE SIDE EFFECTS OF MEDICATIONS, IT'S ALWAYS SOMETHING PLEASANT TO LOOK AT.

RIGHT? IT'S SO VERY PEOPLE OUTSIDE PLAYING WITH THEIR DOG.

WE MIGHT WANT TO HAVE SOME, SOMETHING PLEASANT TO LOOK AT WHILE WE'RE GIVING THIS.

NO, YOU SAYING THIS IS GONNA PUT PEOPLE TO SLEEP , WE'RE GONNA TRY TO KEEP IT ENTER ENTERTAINING AND ENGAGING.

SO, OKAY.

SO DO WE HAVE A CONSENSUS THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE FEEL IS, UH, SOMETHING THAT WILL HELP US MEET OUR OBJECTIVES IN, IN THE FUTURE? I, I THINK SO.

I THINK WE SHOULD.

SO ALRIGHTYY, SO DO I HAVE A CONSENSUS? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

ALL OPPOSED SAY ALL OPPOSED.

SAME SIGN.

ALRIGHTYY.

AND THAT'S GONNA CARRY, SO WE'LL START WORKING ALL REACH OUT TO LLOYD AND WE'LL START MOVING FORWARD WITH THAT, DR. MORENO AND I WILL MAKE SURE THAT WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT.

ALRIGHT.

ITEM THREE C.

UM, AND THAT IS GOING TO BE SEEK CLARIFICATION OR DIRECTION FOR THE COMMITTEE'S PURPOSE AND OR MISSION.

AND SO I'M GONNA ASK MS. JARRIS TO GIVE US SOME, SOME GUIDELINES AND SOME THINGS THAT WE NEED TO, WE NEED TO CONSIDER ON THIS ITEM.

WHAT I ORIGINALLY DID WAS LOOK TO SEE WHAT KAREN HORNER MAY HAVE DRAFTED OR COME UP WITH WHEN THE COMMITTEE WAS ORIGINALLY FORMED.

AND WHAT I CAME UP WITH WAS THE ACTUAL RESOLUTION, UH, WHEN THIS COMMITTEE WAS ESTABLISHED.

AND IN IT WAS A SECTION CALLED DUTIES.

AND I'D LIKE TO JUST READ YOU THIS LITTLE PARAGRAPH HERE.

IT'S, IT'S DOWN TOWARDS THE BOTTOM, BUT AS YOU CAN SEE, IT SAYS, HOLD PUBLIC FORUMS TO RECEIVE INPUT FROM DIVERSE COMMUNITY GROUPS TO ENHANCE UNDERSTANDING THROUGH COMMUNICATION AND EDUCATION TO IMPROVE AND MAINTAIN THE PUBLIC TRUST OF THE BAYTOWN POLICE DEPARTMENT.

SO I, THAT WAS THE DUTIES THAT WERE ASSIGNED, UH, VIA THE CITY COUNCIL.

AND IF YOU GUYS THINK THAT THAT WORKS FOR YOU GUYS, WE COULD LOOK AT MAYBE ADDING THIS, THIS SECTION TO YOUR RULES AND REGULATIONS AS KIND OF, I DON'T KNOW, A MISSION OR PURPOSE OR HOWEVER IT IS YOU WANNA WORD THAT.

I ACTUALLY LIKE THAT , I HAD NEVER SEEN THAT.

THIS IS, THIS IS SOME OF THE DOCUMENTATION THAT I THINK WOULD, WOULD'VE BEEN VERY, VERY HELPFUL SEVERAL MONTHS AGO.

UM, ALRIGHTY.

SO THANK YOU FOR DIGGING.

YES, THANK YOU.

CREATE, BRING TOGETHER ALL THE BUCKETS RIGHT.

THANK YOU SO MUCH JARRIS FOR THAT.

NOT HELPFUL, BECAUSE THIS, THIS DEFINITELY IS SOMETHING THAT COMES FROM, FROM OBVIOUSLY APPROVED BY THE CITY COUNCIL MM-HMM .

AND HAND IT DOWN TO THIS COMMITTEE.

SO DEFINITELY, UH, SOMETHING THAT WE CAN APPROVE.

ANY COMMENTS FROM THE DIOCESE ON THIS NEEDS HELP? I DON'T THINK IT'S WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING OR WHAT WE NEED TO DO.

IT DOESN'T HAVE ANYTHING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, EQUITY.

IT DOESN'T HAVE ANYTHING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THAT WE ADDRESS THE, THE MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES OF THE CITY OR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

IT DOESN'T, IT DOESN'T DO IT.

I MEAN, WE WENT THROUGH ALL THE PROCESS OF HAVING BUCKETS AND, AND SPECIFIC, YOU KNOW, LIKE FOUR SPECIFIC AREAS.

I THINK THOSE SHOULD BE LISTED IN HERE.

WELL, THIS IS JUST THE, THE, THE MISSION STATEMENT, NOT NECESSARILY THE FULL, THE FULL SCOPE OF WHAT OUR, OUR WHAT WE'RE GOING TO BE ACCOMPLISHING.

BUT WE HAVEN'T HELD PUBLIC FORUMS, SO I DON'T THINK THAT SHOULD BE THERE.

OH, THIS IS A PUBLIC FORUM.

THIS IS A PUBLIC FORUM.

IT'S OPEN TO THE PUBLIC.

SO, BUT I, I WOULD ARGUE THAT THIS ISN'T THE MISSION.

THIS IS ACTUALLY THE PURPOSE.

THAT'S A GOOD POINT.

THE PURPOSE, RIGHT? I MEAN, WOULDN'T YOU THINK THAT'S THE PURPOSE, BUT THEN THE MISSION THEN COULD BE WHAT JUDY'S TALK, I MEAN, JUNE'S TALKING ABOUT DR.

STANSKI, EXCUSE ME, I SHOULD CALL YOU DR.

STANSKI.

UM, I THINK THAT SHOULD BE THE MISSION, EXACTLY WHAT SHE'S TALKING ABOUT IN TERMS OF HOW CAN WE

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INTO ONE MISSION STATEMENT.

BECAUSE THAT OUR PURPOSE IS TO DO THIS, BUT WHAT IS OUR MISSION BEHIND THAT? AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE'VE ESTABLISHED IS THE MISSION.

THAT SOUNDS GOOD.

OBVIOUSLY WE, UM, WE DON'T HAVE, UH, ANYTHING ELSE BUT WHAT WE COULD DO, BECAUSE THIS, UH, AGENDA ITEM DOES TALK ABOUT, UH, SETTING ANY TASK AND PROCESSES FOR FUTURE MEETINGS.

WE COULD MAYBE, IF YOU WANT TO SUGGEST THAT THE MEMBERS BRING SOMETHING THAT THEY THINK MIGHT WORK FOR A MISSION STATEMENT ABSOLUTELY.

TO THE NEXT MEETING, WE'LL MAKE SURE WE PUT THAT ON THE AGENDA SO THAT WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT AND SEE ABOUT MAYBE ADOPTING, TAKING ACTION ON THAT AT THE NEXT MEETING.

THAT SOUNDS LIKE A, SO AT THE NEXT MEETING, WE WILL CONSIDER THAT.

SO, UM, THANK YOU JERRY, FOR, FOR THAT, THAT OVERVIEW.

AND THEN AT THE NEXT MEETING, WE WILL MM-HMM .

LOOK FORWARD TO RECEIVING, UM, SOME INDIVIDUAL IDEAS FOR OUR MISSION STATEMENT.

I'M GONNA MAKE A NOTE OF THAT.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS REGARDING THE CLARIFICATION OR DIRECTION FOR THIS COMMITTEE'S PURPOSE AND MISSION? ALL RIGHTY, THEN WE'RE GONNA MOVE DOWN TO, UM, ITEM 3D AND THAT IS THE CREATION OF AN ELECTION POLICY TO BE REVIEWED AT A FUTURE MEETING.

AND I'M GONNA TURN THAT OVER TO JARRIS AGAIN.

AND SO, UH, BECAUSE OF THE WAY THAT WE DO HAVE IT ON THE AGENDA, JUST NOTE THAT TONIGHT WE'LL BE LOOKING AT A SUGGESTION FOR THE ELECTION PROCESS AND YOU GUYS CAN MAKE SUGGESTIONS FOR WAYS THAT IF YOU WANT TO TWEAK IT, BUT AS FAR AS ADOPTING IT AS POLICY, WE'LL NEED TO WAIT TILL THE NEXT AGENDA TO DO THAT.

UM, AND SO AS YOU'RE GETTING THE COPIES HERE OF A DRAFT, UH, THIS PARTICULAR DRAFT FIRST ADDRESSES, UH, HOW BASICALLY THE, UM, THE PROCESS WOULD BE FOR TURNING OVER THE POWER, SO TO SPEAK.

UM, AND THAT HAS BEEN A, A, A POINT OF CONTENTION AT DIFFERENT, UH, MID MEETINGS.

NOT REALLY CONTENTION, BUT CONFUSION MAYBE IS A BETTER WORD, BECAUSE WHEN SHOULD THE NEW PERSON TAKE OVER? AND ONE OF THE CONCERNS THAT WE HAVE WITH, UH, CITIZEN COMMITTEES IS THAT WE WANNA HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY, THE CITY CLERK WOULD HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO MEET WITH THAT PERSON AND TALK TO THEM ABOUT THE SCRIPTS THAT WE HAVE AND SOME OF THE, THE OBLIGATIONS.

SO THIS WOULD PROVIDE FOR THE CURRENT PRESIDING OFFICER TO MAINTAIN THAT SAME MEETING, AND THEN THE NEWLY ELECTED OFFICERS WOULD TAKE OVER AT THE NEXT SCHEDULED MEETING.

THE REASON WHY THIS NEXT SECTION F I'VE STUCK IN HERE IS BECAUSE, AGAIN, BECAUSE WE DO HAVE SUCH A SMALL GROUP, I COULD SEE THE POTENTIAL FOR TIES AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

AGAIN, THAT'S JUST FOR AVOIDING CONFUSION.

UH, B IS DISCUSSING HOW NOMINATIONS WOULD BE RECEIVED.

AND SO THE NEXT TWO SENTENCES DO CLARIFY.

ALL NOMINATIONS WILL BE DECLARED OPENLY PRIOR TO THE ELECTION, THEREFORE NOMINATIONS MUST BE CONCLUDED BEFORE ANY BALLOTING BEGINS.

AND THEN C IS, ANY CANDIDATES MAY MAKE A STATEMENT.

OBVIOUSLY WE DIDN'T DO ANYTHING LIKE THAT LAST TIME, BUT IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO, THEY HAVE THE OPTION TO MAKE A STATEMENT TO THE COMMITTEE REGARDING THEIR CANDIDATURE.

I CAN'T SAY THAT WORD, SO I APOLOGIZE.

UH, THE PRESENTATION OF SUCH A STATEMENT SHALL TAKE NO LONGER THAN FIVE MINUTES.

AGAIN, OPEN FOR OPTIONS NOT REQUIREMENT.

UM, THE NEXT D IS THE OFFICE OF CHAIRPERSON WILL BE ELECTED BY BALLOT STATING THE CANDIDATE'S NAME.

AFTER THE VOTES ARE COUNTED, THE CANDIDATE WHO RECEIVES THE MAJORITY OF THE VOTES IS ELECTED.

A CANDIDATE WHO FAILS TO BE ELECTED FOR A POSITION MAY BE NOMINATED FOR A SUBSEQUENT POSITION.

THAT WORKS WELL FOR A SITUATION LIKE THIS GROUP WHERE WE, WE DON'T HAVE A WHOLE LOT OF MEMBERS.

AND SO IF, IF LIKE THERE WERE TWO PEOPLE BEING NOMINATED AND ONE OF THEM DIDN'T GET IT, OBVIOUSLY THEN THEY COULD BE NOMINATED FOR THE SECOND POSITION.

SO THE VICE CHAIR POSITION, UH, WOULD BE ELECTED BY THE CLOSING.

AT THAT POINT.

YOU COULD MAKE NEW NOMINATIONS FOR THE VICE CHAIR.

YOU WOULD CLOSE THE NOMINATIONS, AND THEN THE CASTING OF BALLOTS STATING THE CANDIDATE'S NAME.

UM, AFTER THE VOTES ARE COUNTED, THE CANDIDATE WHO RECEIVED THE MAJORITY OF VOTES IS ELECTED.

UM, I SAW SOME WRITINGS.

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SO IT SAYS HERE IN THE CASE WHERE THERE ARE MORE THAN TWO CANDIDATES, UH, RUNNING AND NONE RECEIVE A MAJORITY OF VOTES.

UH, THE VOTE IS RERUN AND ONLY THE CANDIDATES RECEIVING THE TOP TWO HIGHEST VOTE COUNTS.

UM, IF THE VOTE IS RETAKEN.

AND THEN IF, IF YOU DO THIS TWICE AND THEN YOU HAVE A TIE, UM, THAT, THAT SUGGESTED, UH, FOR THAT WOULD BE A COIN TOSS TO CHOOSE WHICH CANDIDATE IS ELECTED.

IF YOU GUYS CAN THINK OF A BETTER WAY TO HANDLE IT, ONCE WE REACH THAT THIRD TIER, WE COULD LOOK AT THAT.

BUT THAT WAS THE ONLY THING I ACTUALLY SAW IN WRITING THAT DEALT WITH THE POSSIBILITY OF A THIRD TIER.

WHY NOT? IS IT, SAY IF THERE'S A TIE, WHY DON'T YOU HOLD OUT THE CHAIRMAN'S VOTE AND LET THEM BREAK THE TIE? AND DON'T LET THE CHAIR VOTE.

DON'T LET THE CHAIR VOTE UNLESS THERE'S A TIE.

WELL, I MEAN, YOU GUYS COULD CERTAINLY TALK ABOUT THAT.

I DON'T KNOW WHY YOU WOULD NOT WANT THE CHAIR TO VOTE THOUGH.

'CAUSE THEY'RE THERE TO BREAK A TIE JUST LIKE THE SENATE.

SO YOU GUYS, YOU GUYS CAN TALK ABOUT THAT AND FIGURE OUT WHICH WAY, WHICH WAY YOU WOULD LIKE TO GO.

UH, I MEAN, THERE'S ALSO THE, THE DEAL OF DRAWN OUT OF A HAT.

I MEAN, THERE ARE ARE OTHER THINGS, BUT THEY DO SEEM VERY ARBITRARY.

I GUESS IT'S KIND OF .

SO, SO I DON'T KNOW.

SO YEAH, I MEAN, YOU ABSOLUTELY, YOU GUYS, UH, OBVIOUSLY THIS IS JUST PRESENTED FOR A SUGGESTION WITH YOU GUYS IN MIND, UH, THAT YOU CAN TWEAK THIS AS YOU SEE FIT.

UM, OKAY, LET'S SEE HERE.

OH, IF THERE IS A SITUATION, UM, A NEW CALL FOR CANDIDATES IS MADE AND THE VOTING PROCESS RESTARTS.

IF THE CASE WHERE THERE IS A SINGLE CANDIDATE, WHICH THIS WOULD BE ODD, BUT IF THERE'S A SINGLE CANDIDATE AND THEY DO NOT RECEIVE VOTES, NOW YOU COULD CHOOSE TO WRITE THIS DIFFERENTLY THAT IF THERE'S A SINGLE NOMINATION, THAT'S IT.

AND YOU COULD JUST SAY THAT THEY GET IT, YOU COULD DO THAT, OR YOU COULD SAY THERE'S A SINGLE CANDIDATE, WE STILL VOTE.

BUT, UH, IF YOU DON'T RECEIVE ENOUGH AFFIRMATIVE VOTES THAT THEN YOU, YOU REOPEN.

UH, SO IT'S A COUPLE OF WAYS YOU COULD GO ON THAT AS WELL.

AND THEN I DID PUT IN A LITTLE PROVISION HERE, UH, FOR REMOTE ACCESS.

WE'RE OBVIOUSLY NOT DOING THAT RIGHT NOW, BUT GOD FORBID WE EVER HAVE TO DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT AGAIN.

UH, IT'S WRITTEN IN HERE THAT YOU CAN PARTICIPATE IN THE ELECTION VIA REMOTE, AS LONG AS AS WE CAN HEAR EACH OTHER, WHICH IS BASICALLY WHAT WE WOULD DO WITH ZOOM.

SO, OKAY.

SO THAT'S, THAT IS SOME IDEAS THERE.

SO IF YOU GUYS WANT TO DISCUSS THIS QUESTION, QUESTION OF CLARIFICATION.

AND I'M, I'M, I, THE ONE THING THAT JUMPED OUT TO ME IS ON THE NOMINATION PROCESS.

UM, OH, NEVERMIND.

THERE'S THE, THERE'S THE QUALIFYING WORD OR, UM, OH YES, THERE IS AN OR.

UM, I LIKE THIS BECAUSE IT'S, YOU HAVE TO BE NOMINATED MM-HMM .

WELL, YEAH, DEFINITELY.

AND ALL ELECTIONS REQUIRE A NOMINATION.

I I, NO, THEY DIDN'T.

IT WAS A RIGHT IN BALLOT .

WELL, OKAY.

UM, I, I, I THINK HAVING A, THIS IS PERSONAL PREFERENCE, HAVING SET ON SEVERAL COMMITTEES, NOT, THIS IS MY FIRST GOVERNMENTAL, UH, GOVERNMENT RELATED, UH, COMMITTEE.

BUT ALL OF THE COMMITTEES THAT I HAVE TYPICALLY SET ON HAS BEEN WHERE THERE IS A, UH, A RIGHT IN NOMINATION MM-HMM .

SUBMITTED REGARDLESS OF THE COMMITTEE.

THAT WAY IT DOES NOT CREATE CONTENTION.

WELL, AND THAT WOULD BE WHY I INCLUDED THE EMAIL OPTION.

ESPECIALLY IF YOU WANTED TO NOMINATE YOURSELF.

IF YOU WANTED, WELL, YOU CAN, BUT , IF HE WANTED TO NOMINATE HIMSELF, HE MAY NOT FEEL COMFORTABLE DOING THAT HERE.

OR IF HE WANTED TO NOMINATE, YOU KNOW, JULIE, JULIE OR DR.

STANSKI, SORRY, I'M DOING IT NOW.

UH, THEN, UM, HE, UH, YOU KNOW, HE, HE MAY NOT WANNA DO THAT FOR WHATEVER REASON.

OPEN, YOU'VE GOT THAT PRIVACY OPTION OF NOMINATING VIA EMAIL, OR IF YOU FORGOT TO SEND AN EMAIL, YOU'RE NOT CUT OUT.

YOU CAN STILL DO AN OPEN MEETING NOMINATION AS WELL.

SO YOU HAVE THOSE CHOICES.

WELL, I'M GONNA JUST, I DON'T, I I WE ARE TRYING TO ELIMINATE AS MUCH CONTENTION AS POSSIBLE.

THAT WAS THE IDEA BEHIND THAT.

BUT I DUNNO IF YOU COULD THINK OF A DIFFERENT WAY.

I DON'T KNOW.

UH, I MEAN, I'M OPEN TO THE COMMITTEE MAKING COMMENTS AS WELL, ALL THE WAY AROUND.

UM, BECAUSE THE, THE ASPECT OF, OF,

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WELL, YOU CREATED IT THOUGH, BECAUSE ALL THE COMMITTEES I'VE EVER SERVED ON, PEOPLE WERE NOT NOMINATED.

I MEAN, WERE NOT ELECTED WITHOUT A NOMINATION.

WELL, AND WE DO UNDERSTAND THAT THERE, THAT THERE WAS SOME CONFUSION AND MAYBE NOT A FORMAL, THIS IS A FAIRLY NEW COMMITTEE MM-HMM .

AND WE DIDN'T HAVE IT.

WE'VE GOT A SET OF RULES, AND WE DON'T HAVE A WORD MENTIONED IN THERE ABOUT ELECTIONS.

MM.

AND SO WE'RE FIXING THAT.

THAT'S THE IDEA.

WE'RE GONNA FIX THIS AND MOVE FORWARD FROM HERE AND FIGURE OUT AS A GROUP WHAT YOU GUYS WANT TO DO.

SO FOR THE OTHER GOVERNMENTAL COMMITTEES THAT YOU HAVE, 'CAUSE THERE SHOULD BE SEVERAL, DO THEY, HOW DO THEY DO, LIKE, HOW, WHAT IS THEIR PROCESS IN TERMS OF ELECTIONS? UM, YOU KNOW, I, I COULDN'T TELL YOU REALLY ABOUT, I'M TRYING TO THINK.

'CAUSE I, YOU'RE RIGHT.

I MEAN, LIKE ANOTHER CITIZEN ONE, RIGHT? UM, DEFINITELY.

UM, I'M THINKING MOST OF THE ONES THAT I'VE SEEN, EVERYTHING WAS DONE, UH, WHERE WE, WE NOMINATED AND VOTED AT THE SAME TIME MM-HMM .

UM, AND, UH, JUST TOOK NOMINATIONS, UH, RIGHT THERE.

I MEAN, THAT'S WHAT I'VE SEEN DONE.

BUT THIS OBVIOUSLY FITS IN WITH ROBERT'S RULES AS WELL.

UM, AND SO IT JUST, IT JUST REALLY MATTERS WHAT YOU GUYS WANNA DO BECAUSE EVERY COMMITTEE IS DIFFERENT.

YOU KNOW, A MUCH LARGER COMMITTEE HAS, YOU KNOW, DIFFERENT FOCUSES ON HOW THEY WANNA DO THE PROCESS.

SOMETIMES THEY'RE MORE INTERESTED IN JUST TRYING TO NARROW IT DOWN.

AND THERE MAY BE THE COMMITTEE THAT, THAT SITS HERE TODAY WILL CHANGE OVER TIME.

AND IT MAY BE THAT PEOPLE ARE LIKE, I REALLY DON'T WANNA BE THE LEAD PERSON.

YOU KNOW, SOME PEOPLE AREN'T INTERESTED IN THAT.

UM, SO IT, IT REALLY MATTERS MORE OF WHAT YOU GUYS ARE INTERESTED IN.

AND THIS DOES CONFORM TO ROBERT'S RULES.

SO IF THERE'S ANY QUESTION ABOUT, YOU KNOW, ABOUT THAT, BUT YOU'VE DEFINITELY GOT WIGGLE ROOM TOO.

IT'S ALWAYS UP TO THE COMMITTEE AND HOW THEY WANT TO DO IT.

SO, J OH, GO AHEAD.

SO IN OUR ELECTION PROCESS THAT WE HAD THE LAST MEETING, THE ONLY HICCUP THAT I SAW WAS DOING THE PARALLEL NOMINATIONS AND THE ELECTIONS BECAUSE, UM, AS JUNE POINTED OUT, YOU KNOW, HEY, I WANT TO, I WANT TO CHANGE A VOTE BECAUSE OF WHO WON WHAT.

SO I THINK HAVING THE ELECTIONS, THE NOMINATIONS, AND THE ELECTIONS IN SERIAL WHERE YOU DO ONE AT A TIME, WOULD ELIMINATE THAT AS A PROBLEM.

I AGREE WITH THAT.

AS FAR AS OPENLY NOMINATING OR, OR PRIVATELY NOMINATING, I, I AM A TRANSPARENCY PERSON.

I WANNA SEE, YOU KNOW, I, I'M MORE THAN HAPPY TO TELL PEOPLE WHAT I THINK ABOUT IT, AND I WOULD ENCOURAGE ANYBODY ELSE.

BUT IF YOU FEEL BETTER IN A PRIVATE SETTING TO, YOU KNOW, EMAIL IT OR SOMEHOW ELECTRONICALLY COMMUNICATE A NOMINATION, I'M FINE WITH THAT TOO.

JUST, UH, BUT I THINK THAT HAVING THE, THE NOMINATIONS AND THE ELECTIONS IN A SERIAL FASHION TAKES OUT THE, WHAT WE, WHAT WE EXPERIENCED LAST TIME, WHICH WAS JUST, HEY, I NOW THAT CHANGED THE WHOLE MAKEUP, LET'S DO THIS INSTEAD.

SO I THINK THAT THAT'S GONNA ADDRESS IT.

AND, AND THE VERY REASON WHY WE'RE HAVING THIS DISCUSSION IS TO ELIMINATE THAT.

WHETHER IT BE ON THIS, THE COMMITTEE OF THIS MAKEUP OR THE FUTURE, WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S RIGHT, WE WANNA MAKE IT EASY.

WE WANNA MAKE, MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S A FLOW.

MS. DANSKY, DR.

SKIN.

THERE WERE TWO PROBLEMS WITH THE ELECTION.

THE FIRST WAS, THERE WAS ONE NOMINATED AND ONE NOMINATE UN NOMINATED CANDIDATE THAT WERE ON THE, THAT WAS WRITTEN ON THE BALLOTS.

THERE WERE NOT TWO NOMINATIONS FOR THE CHAIR POSITION.

THE SECOND PROBLEM WAS THAT BOTH THE ELECTIONS HAPPENED CONCURRENTLY.

SO THE SECOND PROBLEM IS EASY TO HANDLE.

THE FIRST PROBLEM, THIS NEW SET OF THINGS THAT YOU WROTE UP, HANDLES THAT NOMINATIONS NEED TO BE MADE AND NOT SECRETLY, BALLOTED WRITTEN IN MM-HMM .

UM, THAT WAS JUST, YOU TALK ABOUT AN UNDERTONE.

WHAT WELL, BUT THE NEW RULES WOULD ALLOW FOR DON'T EVERYBODY HAVING TO BE NOMINATED, DON'T WANNA SAY, WELL, ANYBODY CAN BE, BUT I MEAN, THERE, THERE CAN BE A BALLOT THAT'S NOT PUBLIC.

ALSO, YOU CAN SEND YOUR BALLOT PRIVATELY.

NO, YOU CAN SEND YOUR NOMINATION PRIVATELY.

NO, I'M SORRY.

YOUR, YOUR NOMINATION.

NO, YOUR BALLOT WILL STILL ALWAYS BE PRIVATE.

BECAUSE WE'RE GONNA DO A WRITTEN BALLOT IS WHAT IS, BUT THIS WOULD PROPOSE IS, WAS YOUR CONCERN THAT THE NOMINATIONS WEREN'T, WERE NOT PRIMARY, THERE WASN'T A NOMINATION.

BUT I MEAN, IN THE FUTURE, AS WE GO MOVE FORWARD, YES.

WE NEED TO HAVE NOMINATIONS.

AND I, YOU KNOW, AS I SAY, A VOICE, A VOICE VOTE WOULD BE FINE WITH ME.

I DON'T HAVE TO HAVE A SECRET BALLOT.

I DID TAKE, GO TO ROBERT'S RULES AND TOOK SOME OF THE THINGS OUT OF THERE, AND I WROTE MY OWN SET OF, UM, POSSIBILITIES.

OR RISING, THE VOTE IS TAKEN ON EACH OF THE, IN, IN THE ORDER IN WHICH THEY WERE NOMINATED UNTIL ONE IS ELECTED.

UM, I PUT, BEFORE PROCEEDING TO AN ELECTION TO FILL AN OFFICE, NOMINATE ONE OR MORE CANDIDATES.

AN ELECTION TAKES EFFECT IMMEDIATELY.

IF THE CANDIDATE IS PRESIDENT AND DOES NOT DECLINE, THE VOTE IS VIA VOICE

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THE CHAIRPERSON DOES NOT CAST A VOTE UNLESS TO BREAK A TIE.

AFTER THE ELECTION HAS TAKEN EFFECT.

AND THE OFFICER OR MEMBER HAS LEARNED THE FACT IT IS TOO LATE TO RECONSIDER THE VOTE ON THE ELECTION, THE PROCESS REPEATS FOR EACH ON THE BALLOT, EACH OFFICE ON THE BALLOT.

THOSE ARE MY THOUGHTS.

SO YES, I THINK IT'S NECESSARY THAT WE HAVE NOMINATIONS MM-HMM .

WHETHER YOU NOMINATE VIA EMAIL, TEXT, WHATEVER.

BUT THERE HAS TO BE NOMINATIONS AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED.

NO MORE WRITE IN BALANCE.

NO MORE WRITE IN.

I LIKE THE SERIAL THING THOUGH.

LIKE, DO ONE FIRST ONE, ONE AT A TIME, AND THEN GO AND DO THE SECOND.

I DO LIKE THAT.

I DO AGREE WITH THAT.

I DO AGREE WITH THAT.

YOU NEVER KNOW.

UH, ABSOLUTELY.

WELL, WE HAVE A SMALL POOL OF PEOPLE THAT WE'RE WORKING WITH.

THIS ISN'T LIKE DOZENS OF PEOPLE, SO.

I THINK THAT IS DOING IT SERIALLY HAVING THE NOMINATION PROCESS PRIOR TO THE ACTUAL ELECTION, THEN GO FORWARD.

I THINK IT'S QUICK AND EASY.

AND, UM, TRANSPARENT.

ANY O ANY OTHER COMMENTS THERE BEFORE WE MOVE ON? SO YOU'LL ADD THE SERIAL PIECE OF IT INTO THIS ONE? UM, I THINK IT'S IN THERE.

WELL, IT, IT ACTUALLY IS.

MAYBE I COULD CL IF YOU DIDN'T SEE IT, MAKE IT SOME POINT.

THAT MAKES ME THINK MAYBE I DIDN'T CLARIFY IT ENOUGH.

UM, BUT I CAN MAKE IT CLEARER.

ALL RIGHT.

RICHARD, WHERE IS IT? I JUST HAVE D I'M JUST LOOKING IS THE OFFICE OF CHAIRPERSON AND THEN I HAVE E AS THE OFFICE OF VICE CHAIR THEN WOULD BE OKAY.

THEN A CANDIDATE WHO FAILS TO BE ELECTED FOR A POSITION MAY BE NOMINATED FOR A SUBSEQUENT, MY APOLOGIES, BUT, BUT NO, IT'S OKAY BECAUSE I, MAYBE IT'S NOT CLEAR ENOUGH AND I MIGHT COULD USE IT.

ADD A COUPLE OF WORDS IN THERE THAT WOULD MAKE IT MORE CLEAR.

NO, IT'S PRETTY CLEAR.

UM, BUT, UM, JUST DIDNT READ IT.

BUT WHAT WE, WE CAN'T ADD THIS TO OUR RULES TODAY.

LIKE I SAID, IT'S NOT ON THE AGENDA, BUT WE CAN DEFINITELY LOOK AT THIS.

UM, AND THEN IF YOU GUYS WANNA, IF YOU'RE READY TO ADD IT TO YOUR RULES AT THE NEXT MEETING, UM, WE COULD PUT THAT ON THE AGENDA.

I THINK, AND, AND DR.

STANSKI, DO YOU FEEL LIKE, UH, WHAT, WHAT'S WRITTEN HERE IS, IS COMPARABLE TO, ASIDE FROM THE HAVING THE CHAIRPERSON SIT OUT, DO YOU FEEL LIKE IT'S COMPARABLE TO YEAH, I DON'T LIKE THE COIN FLIP.

YOU KNOW, THAT IS KIND OF A LITTLE DIFFERENT.

THE TOSS.

I WOULD, I WOULD DEFINITELY LIKE TO SEE THAT THE CHAIRMAN'S VOTE BE WITHHELD JUST IN ORDER TO BREAK A TIE.

DO WE HAVE A CONSENSUS ON THAT? DO WE A CONSENSUS OR DOES EVERYBODY WANT A COIN FLIP? DO WE HAVE A CONSENSUS TO REMOVE, TO REMOVE COIN FLIP AND REPLACE IT WITH, UH, A TIE WOULD BE BROKEN BY REMOVING THE CHAIRPERSON'S VOTE? WELL, OR BY HAVING THE CHAIRPERSON VOTE.

ONLY IF THERE IS A TIE.

OH, ONLY IF THERE IS A TIE.

SEE, I, I THINK THAT THAT'S A, OH, SO I THOUGHT YOU MEANT THE OTHER WAY.

I APOLOGIZE.

I MISUNDERSTOOD.

I HAVE, I HAVE A LITTLE HEART MUR IN THAT, BECAUSE WE ARE A SMALL COMMITTEE AND THE CHAIRPERSON IS ONE OF THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS MM-HMM .

AND THEREFORE HIS VOTE WOULD NOT COUNT UNLESS IT'S A TIE BREAKER.

THAT MEANS THAT HIS INPUT IS NOT, I THINK, VALUED AS MUCH AS THE NEXT PERSON.

SO, WELL, IT WOULD, IT WOULD, IT WOULD MATTER MORE BECAUSE HE'D BE BREAKING A TIE.

I DON'T THINK ONE PERSON'S VOTE SHOULD BE MORE THAN THE OTHER.

SO IT'S, IT'S JUST MY WAY OF THINK THINKING ABOUT IT.

ARE YOU, US GOVERNMENT RUNS THAT WAY, BUT WHAT, BUT WHAT IF IT'S FLIPPED WHERE HE, HE OR SHE WITHDRAWS THROWING THE OTHER DIRECTION, WITHDRAWS THEIR, THEIR VOTE TO BREAK A TIE? WELL, IF YOU, IF YOU HAD A TIE AND YOU HAD WITHDRAW VOTE, YOU NO LONGER HAVE A TIE.

THAT MEANS IT'S WORTHLESS.

WELL, I MEAN, BUT YOU NO LONGER HAVE A TIE EITHER.

WELL, THAT WOULD BE THE POINT IS TO BREAK THE TIE.

SO, BUT WHAT I'M SAYING IS THEREFORE IF, IF YOU TOOK THE CHAIRPERSON'S VOTE OUT OF THE, OUT OF THE, THE TIE, YEAH.

THEN THE OTHER SIDE WOULD AUTOMATICALLY WIN.

SO WHERE MINE IS, WHERE THE CHAIRPERSON VOTES TO BREAK A TIE, THAT VOTE IS WORTH MORE.

IF IT'S YOUR WAY AND THE VOTE IS REMOVED IN A TIE, THEN THE OPPOSITE SIDE WOULD WIN IN THE US GOVERNMENT, THE WAY IT'S DONE.

YOU MENTIONED THE TIE BREAKER, THE SENATE MM-HMM .

IN THE SENATE.

AND WELL, THE HOUSE MORE THAN ANYTHING ELSE, IT'S NOT A VOTING MEMBER OR A PARTICIPATING MEMBER.

IT'S THE VICE PRESIDENT.

SO THAT'S KIND OF, THEIR VOICE ONLY COMES IN PLAY WHEN THERE'S A TIE.

OTHERWISE THEY'RE NOT IN PLAY AT ALL, EVER.

EVEN IN THE DISCUSSION, TYPICALLY.

SO THE , YEAH.

WHICH, UH, RIGHT NOW WE ONLY HAVE SEVEN.

HE WANTS TO BE THE TIEBREAKER, THE MAYOR.

I MEAN, I, I, I JUST NOW WHY YOU, WHY WOULD YOU HAVE TO DO THAT? RODNEY? RODNEY.

RODNEY, YOU AIN'T GOOD.

YOU'RE RIGHT.

WE, WE HAVE SUCH A SMALL GROUP, I JUST REALLY DON'T WANT ANYBODY WHO'S SERVING.

AND, AND WE'RE NOT, I'M NOT THINKING ABOUT JUST OUR GROUP, BUT I'M THINKING ABOUT WHAT WE'RE CODIFYING IS HOW THIS IS GONNA GO FORWARD FOR FUTURE COMMITTEES.

AND WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T LOCK SOMEBODY IN OR, OR DEVALUE THEIR INPUT THROUGH THE PROCESS.

WE HAVE.

HOW MANY VOTING MEMBERS DO WE HAVE FOR THIS? UH, THERE'S, UH, THE FULL COMMITTEE IS NINE MEMBERS.

IF WE HAVE A FULL, UH, FULL COMMITTEE,

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AND, AND A QUORUM IS SIX OR FIVE, FOUR.

WELL, RIGHT NOW, BECAUSE WE HAVE SEVEN, OUR QUORUM IS FOUR.

SO IF WE HAD ALL NINE MEMBERS HERE, YOU COULDN'T HAVE A TIE.

AS LONG AS IT'S ODD.

THERE WOULD NEVER, NEVER BE A, THERE WOULD NEVER BE A TIE.

OF COURSE, WE WERE ABOUT TO ADD ONE CORRECT.

THE GATE FOR A WHILE.

SO, AND TYPICALLY THIS COMMITTEE BEING AN ADVISORY COMMITTEE AND NOT OVERSIGHT AND ANYTHING OF THAT NATURE, THE ONLY QUOTE VOTE THAT IS GOING TO HOLD LONG TERM IS GOING TO BE POSITION.

UH, MEANING CHAIRPERSON, VICE CHAIRPERSON.

UM, SO, UH, HERE'S MY RECOMMENDATION.

LET'S, I, I, THIS IS GOOD DISCUSSION.

UM, I'M, I AM, I THINK WE'VE, WE'VE, WE'VE GOT SOME GOOD OUTLINE FROM, FROM JARRIS.

UM, AND SO I THINK LET'S LOOK AT THIS AND BETWEEN NOW AND OUR NEXT FORMAL MEETING, UH, THAT WE, THAT WE ALL REVIEW THIS AND IF WE HAVE SOME LEGITIMATE CONCERNS, ADDRESS THEM AT THAT TIME.

THAT'S JUST WHAT WE'RE HERE FOR NOW.

WELL, I MEAN, WE HAVE TO HAVE IT PREPARED FOR US.

ONE, WELL, ONE ADVANTAGE THOUGH, I WOULD SAY, AND I DO AGREE, UH, BUT ONE ADVANTAGE IS THAT YOU GUYS WOULD HAVE TIME TO THINK ON IT OR MAYBE EVEN REFER TO OTHER COMMITTEES THAT YOU KNOW ABOUT.

YOU COULD ASK, YOU KNOW, HOW DO YOU GUYS BREAK A TIE? I DON'T KNOW.

I MEAN, THAT WOULD BE A POSSIBILITY.

AND THEN WE CAN STILL FINALIZE THIS ONE.

THIS IS ONLY THE, AS FAR AS I HEARD YOU GUYS SAY, THIS IS THE ONLY POINT LEFT TO DEAL WITH.

IS THAT CORRECT? THE, THE TIEBREAKER? UM, THAT WOULD BE EASY TO ADD IN.

UH, JUST LIKE, BASICALLY WE WOULD HAVE A MOTION THAT WOULD SAY, I PROPOSE WE, YOU KNOW, UM, ELECT OR NOT ELECT, BUT I PROPOSE THAT WE PASS THESE RULES WITH THE ADDITION OF BLAH, BLAH, BLAH, TO PUT INTO OUR RULES AND REGULATIONS.

AND THEN, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN GET YOUR MOTION AND YOUR SECOND AND ALL THAT KIND OF GOOD STUFF.

SO, UH, WE CAN DO IT AT THE SAME TIME.

UM, AND IF THIS IS THE ONLY POINT THAT, THAT WOULD BE, I THINK KIND OF EASY AND MAYBE PEOPLE WOULD HAVE A CHANCE TO THINK ABOUT IT SINCE WE, WE HAVEN'T REALLY COME TO AN AGREEMENT TODAY ON JUST THAT ONE ITEM.

AGAIN, THAT'S IF I'M UNDERSTANDING EVERYBODY CORRECTLY.

YEAH, I THINK SO.

I, I MOVE THAT WE, WE DEFINITELY READ OVER THIS AND THEN BRING IT BACK AT, AT OUR NEXT FORMAL MEETING, UH, TO, TO FINALIZE IT.

WOULD YOU LIKE MY NOTES? UM, YEAH, SURE.

DO I, DO WE HAVE A CONSENSUS ON THAT AROUND THE S TODAY? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.

ALL OPPOSED? ALL RIGHTY.

SO WE ARE GOING TO STUDY ON THIS AND, AND, UH, MOVE FORWARD AT OUR NEXT MEETING.

SPEAKING OF OUR NEXT MEETING.

AND JARRIS CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG ON THIS, I PUT A B HERE FOR THE AGENDA ITEMS. UH, WELL, IT ACTUALLY, OUR TALKING ABOUT IT WOULD JUST BE UNDER A, 'CAUSE WE CAN'T CHANGE THE AGENDA NOW.

THE NEXT ITEM IS CONSIDER SETTING THE DATE, TIME, AND LOCATION FOR THE NEXT BAYTOWN POLICE ADVISORY COMMITTEE MEETING ALONG WITH ANY RELATED TASK AND PROCESSES.

SO, UH,

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SO GOING BACK TO THE, UH, EARLIER DISCUSSION THAT WE HAD REGARDING, UH, WE'VE ADDED THE CITIZEN'S INPUT SECTION, UH, INTO, UH, OUR REGULAR AGENDA.

UM, AND I THINK, I THINK IT WAS DR. MORENO, I FORGET WHO, WHO BROUGHT IT UP, BUT I WANT TO GIVE CREDIT TO WHOEVER IT IS.

, UM, BROUGHT UP THE POINT OF GIVING THE PANEL AN OPPORTUNITY TO BRING INFORMATION THAT THEY GATHER FROM THE CONSTITUENCY OF THE BAYTOWN, UH, OF THE CITY OF BAYTOWN CAN, THAT THEY CAN BRING THAT ITEM.

SO I DO BELIEVE THAT IT WOULD BE WISE JUST TO AT LEAST INSERT A PLACE THAT IS, UH, VIABLE INFORMATION.

SO DO WE HAVE ANY COMMENTS, UH, REGARDING THIS? WOULD WE BE DISCUSSING VIABLE INFORMATION THAT'S BROUGHT FORTH IT? UH, LET'S CLARIFY.

DR.

THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION, DR.

STAN.

THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION BECAUSE YOU'RE RIGHT, WHEN A CITIZEN COMES UP, YES.

YOU AREN'T ALLOWED TO DISCUSS IT BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT SUBJECT'S GONNA BE YET, RIGHT.

TO PUT IT ON THE AGENDA.

SO, NO, YOU REALLY WOULD NOT, IT WOULD BE ALMOST THE, I I DON'T REMEMBER IF YOU WERE HERE YET, BUT DR.

MARINO IS THE ONE THAT BROUGHT THIS UP OF A SITUATION WHERE SOMEBODY COMES UP TO HER AND SAYS, GOSH, YOU KNOW, I HAVE THIS BIG CONCERN WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

I DON'T WANT TO COME TO ONE OF YOUR MEETINGS, BUT I'M TELLING YOU HERE IS WHAT IT IS.

AND SO, DR.

MARINO WOULD LIKE TO BE ABLE TO PRESENT THIS CONCERN,

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EVEN THOUGH SHE'S NOT DOING IT AS A CITIZEN.

SHE WANTS TO HAVE SOME FEEDBACK FROM THE COMMUNITY THAT SHE CAN PRESENT.

BUT YOU, WE CANNOT REALLY DISCUSS IT.

NOT BECAUSE IT'S NOT AN ITEM ON THE AGENDA.

AND SINCE WE WON'T EVER KNOW IN ADVANCE, NOW, IF IT, IF YOU KNOW IN ADVANCE, YOU CAN ALWAYS REQUEST THAT AN ITEM BE ADDED TO AN AGENDA.

UM, AND WHAT'S THE DEADLINE FOR GETTING AN ADDITION BEFORE THE MEETING? PARDON ME? WHAT'S THE DEADLINE FOR GETTING AN ADDITION? UH, MISS ANGIE WOULD HAVE TO ANSWER THAT.

SO IF I BROUGHT IT TO YOU FOR, LIKE, IF WE HAD A MEETING TONIGHT AND I BROUGHT IT TO YOU BY WHEN, WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO ADD IT LA LAST WEEK ON FRIDAY, OR? YES.

WE, THE, THE THING TOOK, WE HAVE 72 HOURS TO POST.

IT HAS TO BE POD POSTED, 72 HOURS INFORMATION BEFORE THAT WORKS.

BUT THE ALSO THE IMPORTANT THING TOO, IS TO REMEMBER MS. ANGIE HAS TO DRAFT IT.

SO, UH, YOU CALLING HER 72 HOURS BEFORE IT CAN GONNA WORK.

SO YOU GOTTA GIVE HER ENOUGH TIME TO GET IT ON THE AGENDA.

SO AT LEAST A WEEK BEFORE, IF YOU COULD, SO THAT WE CAN DEFINITELY, IT WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL TO HER IF YOU KNEW IN ADVANCE.

NO LAST MINUTE SURPRISES.

SO, BUT YEAH, SO, SO THAT IS, I'M GLAD YOU BROUGHT THAT UP.

THANK DR.

DANSKY.

BECAUSE, UM, THAT IS TRUE.

WE WOULD NOT, UNLESS YOU KNOW IN ADVANCE AND WE'RE ABLE TO SPECIFICALLY ADDRESS IT, WE CANNOT DISCUSS IT AS A GROUP.

UH, SO IF IT'S, IF IT'S COMING FROM SOMEBODY FROM THE COMMUNITY VIA US, IT WOULD BE LIKE A NUMBER TWO A B WHERE IT'S NOT DISCUSSED.

AND IF YOU, OR IF YOU SEND IT TO ANGIE ON THURSDAY OR FRIDAY BEFORE THE MEETING, THEN IT WOULD BE A BUSINESS ITEM.

I CAN ADD IT.

SO YOU HAVE TWO WAY, TWO WAYS TO BRING IT BEFORE THE COMMITTEE.

SEE, I SAW IT DIFFERENTLY.

I SAW IT AS A NUMBER, LIKE IT'S OWN SET, THREE COMMUNITY, MAYBE COMMUNITY FEEDBACK.

I THINK THAT'S, AND THEN UNDER THAT, THAT'S WHERE I WAS, WELL, IF YOU HAVE AN AGENDA ITEM THAT LIKE, JUST, JUST SAY YOU HAVE A CONCERN, THEN THAT COULD BE THREE A, RIGHT? BECAUSE IT'S STILL COMMUNITY FEEDBACK, BUT YOU HAVE IDENTIFIED WHAT IT IS THAT ALLOWS US TO SPEAK TO IT.

THAT WOULD WORK FINE.

THAT THAT FITS INTO THE, THE LAW OF AGENDAS BASICALLY.

BECAUSE I DON'T WANT IT TO GET ALL STUCK IN THE BUSINESS ITEMS. I'D RATHER IT BE UNDER SPECIFICALLY COMMUNITY FEEDBACK BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT WITHIN ITSELF.

SO IT WOULD BE, SO NUMBER THREE WOULD BECOME FOUR.

AND NUMBER THREE WOULD BE COMMUNITY FEEDBACK, ASSUMING THAT'S HOW SHE WANTS TO DO IT.

I DEFINITELY, THAT'S HOW THE FULL COMMITTEE FOR THAT.

AND WE COULD EVEN MAKE CITIZEN INPUT BE COMMUNITY FEEDBACK.

MM-HMM.

AND I THINK IT SHOULD BE SEPARATE.

OH, YOU WANT 'EM TO BE SEPARATE? YES.

I THINK IT SHOULD BE CITIZENS INPUT AND THEN COMMUNITY FEEDBACK.

I AGREE WITH DR.

MORE THAT WE CAN DO THAT.

SO, UM, I'M, I'M JUST GONNA THROW THIS, I'M JUST GONNA THROW THIS OUT HERE AS A SUGGESTION.

MOVE FORWARD.

WOULD WE CALL IT COMMITTEE INPUT? OR WHAT WOULD WE ACTUALLY CALL THAT ITEM AT? I, I WOULD CALL IT COMMUNITY INPUT.

POSSIBLY FROM THE COMMITTEE OR THROUGH THE COMMITTEE BECAUSE, UH, IT'S, IT'S INPUT FROM, I MEET WITH HOAS WITH DEPARTMENT COMMUNITIES.

AND LISTEN TO THEM.

AND, AND WHEN THEY TELL ME SOMETHING, I WANT TO BE ABLE TO BRING IT FORWARD.

THAT'S COMMUNITY INPUT.

IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT BPAC INPUT.

BUT IT'S CHANNELED THROUGH US, WHICH IS APPROPRIATE.

SO I THINK THAT THAT'S THE BEST WAY TO HANDLE THAT.

COMMUNITY INPUT.

I LIKE IT.

SO YOU CITIZEN, SO WE HAVE CITIZEN INPUT, AND THEN THE NEXT ONE WOULD BE COMMUNITY INPUT.

IS THAT WHAT YOU GUYS ARE THINKING.

STILL NEEDS MORE CLARIFICATION.

SO, UH, DO WE HAVE A CONSENSUS ON ADDING COMMUNITY INPUT TO OUR REGULARLY SCHEDULED AGENDA ITEMS? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

WAIT, WAIT, WAIT.

SO IF IT'S JUST INPUT, WE DON'T DISCUSS IT, BUT IF WE WANT IT ON THE AGENDA FOR DISCUSSION, IT WOULD'VE TO GO UNDER BUSINESS THEN, CORRECT? I BELIEVE SO.

YOUR UH, GO AHEAD.

DO YOU HAVE A COMMENT? YEAH, NOT NECESSARILY.

IF YOU KNOW THAT THERE'S A PARTICULAR TOPIC THAT YOU JUST WANNA TALK ABOUT, WHETHER IT SITS OR SOMETHING ELSE, THEN YES, LET ME KNOW AND I CAN PUT IT ON THE AGENDA AND YOU CAN DISCUSS IT HOW YOU WANT.

NOW, IF WE CAN LABEL THIS JUST LIKE CITIZEN INPUT, LIKE YOU GUYS WERE DISCUSSING, AND IT'S JUST OPEN, IT'S JUST FREE FORM.

IF YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT IT ON THERE, YOU CAN AND GO FROM THERE.

BUT SHE WANTS TO BE ABLE TO HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT IT.

BUT YOU CAN HAVE A CONVERSATION AND WE CAN WORD IT AS SUCH.

SO IT COULD BE DISCUSSED OR CONSIDER OR, OR YOUR INPUT OR WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE.

THOSE ARE SEND, SO IT'S JUST HOW WE WORD IT.

SEND MM-HMM .

THOSE ARE ITEMS WE SEND YOU BEFORE SO WE CAN GET 'EM ON THE POSTED 72 HOURS SO THAT EVERYBODY CAN SEE THAT.

RIGHT? OKAY.

BUT THINGS THAT COME UP IN THE MEETING THAT, THAT'S FOR DISCUSSION AT A LATER DATE.

SO SOMETHING HAPPENED SUNDAY.

HERE WE ARE.

TUESDAY.

I DIDN'T MEET MY 72 HOURS, BUT I CAN STILL SPEAK ABOUT IT UNDER COMMUNITY INPUT C BUT WE CAN'T EXACTLY.

SO, BUT WE CAN'T DISCUSS IT.

RIGHT? I LIKE IT.

THAT GIVES US SOME FLEXIBILITY.

RIGHT? SO THEN RE THEN REPHRASE WHAT YOU WERE SUPPOSED TO SAY.

SO, OKAY.

THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING DR.

STANSKI AND DR. MORENO AND WHOEVER ELSE WANNA GIVE CREDIT TO WHO CREDIT IS DUE.

SO DO WE HAVE A CONSENSUS FROM THE COMMITTEE TO ADD COMMUNITY INPUT TO OUR REGULARLY SCHEDULED MEETINGS? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

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SO COMMUNITY INPUT WILL BE A PART OF OUR REGULARLY SCHEDULED MEETING THAT WILL BE FOR THE ADVISORY COMMITTEE TO BRING COMMUNITY INPUT THAT FALLS OUTSIDE OF THE 72 HOUR DEADLINE.

SO NOW ARE YOU GONNA DO ANOTHER MOTION TO ALLOW FOR US TO SUBMIT COMMUNITY INPUT BEFORE THE, THE CLOSE TO BE POSTED ON THE AGENDA FOR DISCUSSION? I DON'T THINK YOU HAVE TO.

IN THIS CASE, WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS JUST THE STRUCTURE OF THE AGENDA.

SO YOU DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO HAVE A CONSENSUS FOR THAT.

I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY YOU MAY PREFER TO DO THAT, BUT WE'RE JUST PICKING OUT HOW WE'RE GONNA TITLE OUR SECTION, SO WE'RE GOOD.

I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT IF, IF I HAVE SOMETHING THAT'S LIKE, LIKE A WEEK BEFOREHAND AND I WANNA GET IN ON THE AGENDA SO WE CAN HAVE A, A FRUITFUL DISCUSSION ABOUT IT, DO THE RULES.

UH, I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY RECALLS, DO THE RULES ADDRESS HOW YOU PUT SOMETHING ON THE AGENDA? THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT I WAS ABOUT TO SAY.

BECAUSE SOMETIMES YOU NEED MORE THAN ONE PERSON.

EXACTLY.

SO THAT'S WHAT I WAS GONNA SAY.

SO IF SAY, FOR EXAMPLE, AND I'LL JUST USE COUNCIL FOR EXAMPLE.

SAY IF A COUNCIL MEMBER WANTS TO PUT AN ITEM ON THE AGENDA, THEY HAVE TO GET TWO OTHER PEOPLE TO GO WITH THEM TO PUT THAT ITEM ON THE AGENDA.

UM, OR THE CITY MANAGER CAN DO IT, OR THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE CAN DO IT.

SO IN YOUR CASE, THERE'S NO SET RULES OR GUIDELINES YET IN ORDER FOR YOU TO PUT AN ITEM ON THE AGENDA, BESIDES GOING THROUGH, UM, THE CHAIRPERSON THAT CAN PUT AN ITEM ON THE AGENDA, YOU CAN'T DO IT.

SO, I MEAN, WE WERE JUST SAYING WE COULD EMAIL YOU.

I I CAN, BUT IT IS STILL, YOU'RE SUBMITTING IT AS A CHAIRPERSON.

I MEAN, AS A, AS A BOARD MEMBER.

SO THEN IT WOULD BE IF YOU GET TWO OTHER PEOPLE TO GO WITH YOU, UM, TO PUT THAT ITEM ON YOU.

IS THAT ON BYLAWS? I JUST FOUND WHERE IT TALKS ABOUT THIS MM-HMM .

UH, IT SAYS AGENDA ITEMS TO BE INCLUDED ON THE AGENDA MUST BE APPROVED BY THE CITY MANAGER.

THE CHAIR ARE BY THREE MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE.

AND THE REASON WHY, I DON'T KNOW IF, IF YOU KNOW ALREADY, BUT THE, THE REASON WHY THEY HAVE THESE KINDS OF RULES IS BECAUSE OCCASIONALLY YOU CAN GET SOMEONE WHO JUST WANTS TO KEEP ADDING STUFF ALL THE TIME AND IT'S JUST KIND OF THEIR OWN PERSONAL AGENDA KIND OF THING.

AND SO THEY, TO TRY TO PREVENT THAT IN GENERAL, I MEAN, IT'S NOT JUST HERE IN THIS CITY, IT'S EVERYWHERE.

UH, THEY HAVE RULES LIKE THESE THAT KIND OF RESTRICT.

SO YOU CAN EITHER GET IT, YOU CAN GET THREE MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE OR GET THE CHAIR OR GET THE CITY MANAGER TO AGREE TO IT.

EITHER OF THOSE, EITHER OF THOSE THREE OPTIONS WILL GET YOU AN INDIVIDUAL ITEM.

NOW WE'RE ALWAYS GONNA HAVE THE GENERIC ITEM THAT WE TALKED ABOUT.

'CAUSE THAT'S GONNA BE ADDED AS A GENERIC ITEM.

COMMUNITY INPUT.

BUT IF YOU WANT A SPECIFIC ITEM TO BE ADDED TO OUR AGENDA, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO GET ONE OF THESE THREE WAYS TO GET IT ON.

THOSE PROCEDURES, ABSOLUTELY.

AND JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, THAT IS, IS THAT JUST STANDARD RULES FOR ALL COMMITTEES? UM, ALL COMMITTEES HAVE SOME KIND OF SIMILAR RULE JUST LIKE THAT.

I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S WORD FOR WORD THE SAME RIGHT.

BUT I'VE, I'VE NEVER SEEN WHERE ONE INDIVIDUAL ON A COMMITTEE COULD, UH, JUST DO IT ON THEIR OWN WITHOUT SOME SORT OF, YOU KNOW, OF, OF JOINING IN WITH SOMEBODY AS THE CHAIR.

MAY I REQUEST THAT, THAT, THAT BE SENT OUT TO OUR, TO OUR COMMITTEE? JUST SO THAT WE HAVE THOSE, UM, HAVE THOSE THE RULES? YEAH.

WE SEND OUT.

SO THEN WE GO TO, UH, SO WE'VE GOT THE AGENDA ITEMS TAKEN CARE OF, AND THEN CONSIDER SETTING THE DATE.

UH, DR. MORENO, UH, HAS GRACIOUSLY WORKED WITH, UH, LEE COLLEGE, STILL WORKING WITH LEE COLLEGE, STILL WORKING WITH LEE COLLEGE.

AND, AND HER AND OUR LEGAL PERSON OVER HERE IS GONNA, MS. JARRIS GONNA WORK OUT SOME OF THE DETAILS, UH, ON THAT.

BUT IF WE, UH, THE, THE PROPOSED DATE IS JUNE THE 21ST AT LEE COLLEGE AT, WHAT'S IT CALLED? TUCKER HALL.

TUCKER HALL.

TUCKER HALL AT TUCKER HALL, WHERE WE WOULD, UM, TRY TO GET THE WORD OUT AS BEST WE POSSIBLY CAN TO GET AS MUCH CITIZEN INPUT AS, AS, AS CAN, AS WE CAN IN THAT MEETING.

UM, SO DOES IS DO WE HAVE A, A CONSENSUS FOR JUNE THE 21ST AT SIX? WELL, YEAH, I THINK YOU GOTTA GET A CONSENSUS ON THE DATE FIRST.

TO THE 21ST, CORRECT? YES.

DO WE HAVE A CONSENSUS FOR JUNE THE 21ST AT 6:00 PM AT TUCKER HALL? UH, ALL IN FAVOR OR DO ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS BEFORE I ASK FOR A VOTE? SO WE'RE MOVING IT FROM THE 28TH

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SO J SO DO I HAVE A CONSENSUS FOR THE US TO MOVE US TO MOVE THE DATE FROM JUNE THE 28TH TO JUNE THE 21ST AT 6:00 PM HOPEFULLY, AND WE'LL DETERMINE THE LOCATION IN JUST A MOMENT.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

ALL OPPOSED? SAME SIGN.

SO OUR NEXT MEETING WILL BE SET FOR JUNE 21ST AT 6:00 PM AND THE DATE OR THE LOCATION? THE LOCATION IS A LITTLE FUZZY.

IS A LITTLE FUZZY.

SO IT'S GONNA BE IF TENTATIVELY AT LEE COLLEGE TENTATIVELY? YES.

IF NOT HERE.

YOU WANNA MAKE THIS THE BACKUP LOCATION? YES.

UNLESS SOMEONE ELSE HAS ANY OTHER IDEAS THAT WE CAN.

I'VE GOT SOME IDEAS, BUT I HAVEN'T, I HAVEN'T CLEARED 'EM WITH ANYBODY YET.

SO I'LL, SO THEN YOU'RE GONNA START WORKING ON JULY .

I WILL.

SERIOUSLY? YOU GO.

I'M ALL RIGHTY.

ALL IN FAVOR OF THIS.

THIS HAS, YES.

THIS HAS BEEN MY PET PROJECT.

NOW, IN THIS, IN THIS SITUATION, CAN I, UH, POINT OF INFORMATION AND THAT IS, IF MR. HUNSINGER IS ABLE TO SECURE A PLACE OUTSIDE OF CHAMBER COUN, UH, COUNCIL CHAMBERS, DOES HE NEED TO EMAIL MYSELF AND DR. MORENO AND SAY, HEY, I'VE GOT THIS, THIS, AND THIS.

WILL THAT VIOLATE FOR THE JULY LOCATION? FOR THE JULY LOCATION SO THAT WE CAN, UH, THAT WOULD NOT VIOLATE OKAY.

BECAUSE IT WOULD NOT BE THE QUORUM.

IN FACT, I WANNA TOUCH ON QUORUMS HERE IN JUST A MINUTE WHEN YOU'RE DONE.

I JUST, BECAUSE IF HE, IF HE'S ABLE TO SECURE THAT MM-HMM .

AND MOVE FORWARD ON THAT, I WOULD MUCH RATHER US PUT IT ON THE AGENDA FOR OUR NEXT MEETING SO THAT WE CAN QUESTION.

YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT JUNE OR JULY? WELL, IT, I'M, I'M, I'M, I'M POSING A HYPOTHETICAL.

RIGHT NOW, IF HE WERE TO SECURE THE, THE JULY, COULD HE EMAIL ME AND DR. MORENO IN ORDER FOR US TO SAY, HEY, LET'S PUT THIS ON THE AGENDA? YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.

THANK YOU FOR CLARIFICATION.

DO YOU HAVE ANOTHER ITEM THAT YOU'D LIKE TO TALK ABOUT? WELL, I JUST WANTED TO TALK ABOUT WITH REGARDS TO LOCATIONS.

UM, UH, JUST A LITTLE, JUST TOUCH ON THE, THE BIT ABOUT QUORUMS. UM, IT GETS WEIRD WHEN WE'RE NOT IN THIS FORMAL SETTING SOMETIMES, AND WE JUST WANNA REMEMBER THAT ANYTIME WE'VE GOT A QUORUM, UH, BECAUSE I KNOW WE'VE ALSO TALKED ABOUT MAYBE TRYING TO REACH OUT TO THE COMMUNITY IN MANY WAYS AS POSSIBLE, GOING TO FESTIVALS, WHATEVER.

UM, BUT MAKE SURE THAT YOU KNOW THAT IF YOU HAVE A QUORUM, LIKE IF YOU ALL SHOW UP AT THE SAME FESTIVAL, YOU ALL SHOW UP AT JULY 4TH CELEBRATION, RIGHT? IN OUR OFFICIAL CAPACITY.

OR JUST, YOU CANNOT TALK CITY BUSINESS AT ALL IF THERE'S ENOUGH OF YOU THERE.

NOW, IF IT'S JUST TWO OF YOU SHOW UP, YOU CAN TALK CITY BUSINESS ALL YOU WANT.

'CAUSE IT DOESN'T HONESTLY, DOESN'T MEAN ANYTHING.

IT'S NOT FOR THE PUBLIC, BUT YOU JUST BE NO NOTICEABLE OF THAT.

AND OBVIOUSLY WE'RE ABOUT TO GET ONE MORE MEMBER.

SO, UM, WE'RE, WE'RE GONNA HAVE, WILL IT TURN FIVE QUORUM THEN I GUESS ONCE WE GET OUR ONE MEMBER? UH, BUT ANYWAY, UH, BE MINDFUL OF THAT.

SAME GOES FOR EMAILS, AND I KNOW YOU ASKED THAT QUESTION.

THAT'S SOMETHING TO REMEMBER.

UH, YOU KNOW, ONE OF YOU CAN'T EMAIL EVERYBODY IN THE, ON THE BOARD, EVEN THOUGH YOU MAY WANT TO.

I MEAN, IT SEEMS LIKE THAT SHOULD BE EASY TO DO, BUT IT'S NOT, UM, IF YOU START GETTING INTO A, ANOTHER QUORUM SITUATION.

AND SO THAT'S WHY IT'S ALWAYS BEST THAT IF YOU'VE GOT SOMETHING YOU WOULD LIKE TO GET TO THE GROUP IS GET WITH ANGIE AND THEN SHE CAN COMMUNICATE TO THE GROUP.

SHE'S NOT A MEMBER AND IT, IT WORKS OUT AND YOU GUYS CAN'T CROSSTALK.

UH, AND WE'RE ALL GOOD .

UM, AND SO AGAIN, JUST BE MINDFUL OF THAT WHEN IT COMES TO, AND IF I COULD ALSO PUT A LITTLE PLUG IN THERE FOR FUTURE, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE FUTURE, UM, WITH LOCATIONS, YOU KNOW, CITIZENS NIGHT OUT, UH, YOU GUYS COULD HAVE A BOOTH.

WHEN IS THAT? IT IS IN OCTOBER.

IT'S, IT'S THE FIRST WEEK IN OCTOBER.

THIS PARTICULAR YEAR.

I'M NOT SURE OF THE DATE.

IT'S USUALLY LIKE THE FIFTH OR SOMETHING.

THAT'S MY BIRTHDAY.

IT'S ALWAYS ON MY BIRTHDAY.

OH, OKAY.

THERE YOU GO.

SO I WANNA SAY PLANTING A SEED.

UM, A LOT OF GROUPS OUT THERE.

HUH? IT'S NATIONAL NIGHT OUT.

NATIONAL NIGHT OUT IN, DID SAY IT WRONG.

WHAT DID I SAY? CITIZENS NOT, OH, SO , WE KNOW WHAT YOU MEANT.

IT'S THE CITIZENS THOUGH.

SO IS ON WEEKEND, TUESDAY.

TUESDAY FIRST.

TUESDAY OF THE MONTH, OCTOBER.

IS IT STILL GONNA BE AT TOWN SQUARE THIS YEAR OR? I HAVEN'T GOT CLARIFICATION ON THAT EITHER.

TO PLAN A SEED BECAUSE NATIONAL NIGHT OUT IS A BIG THING, BUT I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THAT.

SURE WOULD BE NICE.

'CAUSE THAT WORKED OUT WELL LAST YEAR.

FIRST TUESDAY IS OCTOBER 4TH.

IF YOU WANNA HAVE A BOOTH, YOU CAN MAKE THAT A REGULAR MEETING.

YOU CAN POST IT 72 HOURS IN ADVANCE AND MAKE IT A MEETING.

AND THAT WAY, UH, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, YOU STILL HAVE, WE, WE WOULD HAVE TO HAVE A CONVERSATION BEFORE WE DID SOMETHING LIKE THAT, BUT IT IS POSSIBLE.

UH, IN FACT, THE ANIMAL ADVISORY BOARD JUST HAD A MEETING AT THE ANIMAL SHELTER, THE NEW ANIMAL SHELTER, BECAUSE THEY WANTED TO MEET THERE AND GET A TOUR, AND THEY, IT WAS A POSTED MEETING.

IT WAS ALL GOOD AND LEGAL.

AND SO THOSE ARE KINDS OF THINGS THAT YOU CAN DO AS WELL.

AGAIN, I JUST WANTED

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WHAT, WHEN IS OUR TERMS OVER SEPTEMBER 30TH.

SEPTEMBER 30TH.

SO ARE WE GONNA HAVE OTHER PEOPLE COME ON THAT WE CAN THEN PREPARE THAT FOR THEM? IT'S POSSIBLE.

DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? BECAUSE IF NOT, THEN EVERYTHING, I MEAN, WE CAN DO ALL, WE CAN PREPARE IT, BUT WE'RE GONNA BE HERE TO DO THAT.

YOU'RE RIGHT, YOU'RE RIGHT.

UH, AND OF COURSE, KEEP IN MIND THAT YOU CAN STILL VOLUNTEER AS A NON-MEMBER TO TALK TO PEOPLE AND, AND, AND MEET WITH THE COMMUNITY ON YOUR OWN AS, AS A NON-MEMBER, AS A QUORUM.

UM, YEAH.

AND YOU WOULDN'T HAVE TO, WELL THEN YOU WOULDN'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT A QUORUM BECAUSE YOU WOULDN'T BE A MEMBER.

WELL, I HAVE A QUESTION.

SO YOU, YOU SAID THINK ABOUT HAVING A BOOTH, BUT YOU'RE ALSO MENTIONED WE HAVE NO BUDGET.

SO WHAT DOES THAT, WHAT DOES THAT WORK LIKE? SO BOOTHS ARE INTERESTING BECAUSE YOU CAN BORROW EQUIPMENT.

UH, THE PARKS AND REC ALWAYS PROVIDES THE TABLES WE WOULD HAVE TO FIND PROBABLY, AND PARKS AND REC WOULD BE MOST LIKELY OUR SOURCE IS TO GET ONE OF THE CANOPIES TO PROVIDE SOME SHADE.

UM, AND EVERYTHING ELSE WOULD BE JUST UP TO THE COMMITTEE.

I MEAN, SOME OF THE BOOTHS WILL GIVE AWAY LIKE LITTLE CANDIES TO THE KIDS.

THAT'S, THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE ON YOU GUYS' OWN.

UH, BUT THE, BUT THE CANOPIES AND THE TABLES, WE CAN PROBABLY GET THROUGH PARTS IN RIGHT THERE.

ANY RULES AND GUIDELINES ON WHAT AND HOW MUCH OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT? AS FAR AS LIKE IF WE GOT CANDIES OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THEN, UM, WELL, WE COULD DE DEFINITELY TALK.

I CAN'T IMAGINE.

I MEAN, WHAT, WHAT I'VE SEEN PEOPLE GIVE AWAY, UH, OBVIOUSLY CANDIES, UH, COLORING BOOKS, PLASTIC THINGS, YOU KNOW HOW ALL THESE FESTIVALS YOU GO TO AND EVERYBODY WANTS TO GIVE YOU A CUP OR A COZY, OR, THERE'S ALWAYS KINDS OF THINGS LIKE THAT.

UH, IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT, IF YOU'RE WANTING TO ORDER SOMETHING WITH THE CITY'S INSIGNIA ON IT, YOU HAVE TO HAVE SPECIAL PERMISSION FOR THAT.

BUT, UM, NO, I MEAN, I, I DON'T KNOW OF ANY RESTRICTIONS.

I GUESS IT WOULD HAVE TO BE KIND OF SOMETHING FAMILY-LIKE.

RIGHT? YEAH.

SO , I JUST, I JUST, I, I WORK FOR A MAJOR CORPORATION AND WE HAVE ALL KIND OF RULES ABOUT DOING THAT AND HOW MUCH IT CAN BE AND, AND WHAT IT CAN REPRESENT.

SO, OH YEAH, NO, IT'S NOT REALLY A BIG COST THING.

UM, IT'S MORE OF JUST AS LONG AS IT'S SAFE FOR KIDS, UM, WOULD BE OUR BIGGEST CONCERN.

DON'T PUT THE CITY IN A LIABILITY.

DO YOU HAVE ANY SUGGESTIONS FOR THAT? WELL, LIKE SAID COULD WITH A CANOPY AND STUFF LIKE THAT, I, I WAS ABLE TO GET THE, UH, CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS THEIR OWN LITTLE TENT AREA.

AND YOU COULD, YOU COULD JUST ROOM WITH THEM IN THE SAME TENT'S, A BIG TENT.

SO LET'S, LET'S, LET'S GET, LET, LET'S MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S THE LOCATION, THAT THAT IS A POSSIBLE LOCATION FOR THE FUTURE.

SO, UM, ALRIGHTY.

WITH THAT, UM, SORRY.

SO I DID GET CLARIFICATION THAT THE LETTER WOULD BE HELPFUL, AND THERE, THERE ARE A FEW WAIVERS.

THAT'S WHAT I WAS TEXTING.

SORRY, I'M SUPPOSED TO TEXT IN A MEETING, BUT YEAH, IF YOU COULD GET ME A LETTER.

IDENTIFICATION OF PEOPLE.

UH, THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL.

I'LL WORK ON THE BODY OF THE LETTER.

AND THEN, UM, IF AFTER THIS MEETING, IF YOU COULD GIVE ME YOUR PHONE NUMBER, MA'AM, I CAN REACH OUT AND GET THE YES MA'AM.

SO I'LL JUST GOING AHEAD AND RESERVE IT.

THE NEXT ITEM IS THE ADJOURNMENT.

DO I HAVE A, I MOVED, UH, CON, UH, CON, UH, UH, A FULL MOTION CONCE CONCESSION FROM THE COMMITTEE.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

ALL OPPOSED? WE'RE ADJOURNED.