May 12, 2022 CITY COUNCIL WORK SESSION

[ CITY OF BAYTOWN NOTICE OF MEETING CITY COUNCIL WORK SESSION THURSDAY, MAY 12, 2022 5:30 P.M. COUNCIL CHAMBER, CITY HALL 2401 MARKET STREET, BAYTOWN, TEXAS 77520 AGENDA CALL TO ORDER AND ANNOUNCEMENT OF QUORUM ]

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TO GET

[a. Discuss proposed revisions to the Baytown Community Center Rental Policies and Procedures regarding serving/consuming alcoholic beverages, and related items. ]

AND THERE WAS TALK ABOUT FIRE WATCH, BUT CAR WATCH IS USED ONLY AS A TEMPORARY MEASURE WHEN YOU MIGHT HAVE A SYSTEM DOWN OR SOMETHING.

SO IF YOU WERE EVERGREEN, WE HAD AN EVENT PLANNED AND THE SYSTEM WENT DOWN, THEN FIRE WATCH COULD BE USED FOR AN EVENT OR TWO WHILE THEY'RE GETTING THE SYSTEM UP.

IT'S REALLY A TEMPORARY FIX, NOT MEANT TO BE USED BY .

SO WE KIND OF PUSHED BACK ON THAT A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE THAT'S NOT THE INTENT TO DO THAT.

IN THIS SITUATION.

WE WOULD, WE'D HAVE TO HAVE A COMMITMENT THAT WE WERE GOING TO SPRINKLE, UH, THE COMMUNITY CENTER.

UM, HOW FAR ARE WE, I KNOW THAT WE'VE KIND OF ENTERTAINED IDEAS OF RENOVATING, UM, CITY HALL AND EVEN THAT'S YEARS NOT A COUNCIL PRIORITY.

SO AS IT STANDS NOW, CLIFF, THE HOUSE ROOM WOULD BE ALLOWED TO DESERVE ALCOHOL OR NOT.

DID WE TALK ABOUT THAT? MAY THERE'S A SAY TEJAS, MAYBE BE BETTER ON SIX.

YEAH.

THE TEJAS ROOM, YOU, THE MAX OCCU OCCUPANCY YOU CAN HAVE IN THERE WOULD BE 50 PEOPLE.

50.

OKAY.

AND THAT WOULD, IT'S ONLY GOT ONE EXITS UNDER THERE.

AND THEN IF YOU'RE GONNA DO ALCOHOL, IT WOULDN'T BE SOMETHING YOU WOULD WANT TO HAVE A VENDOR MAINTENANCE A PRIVATE THING.

RIGHT.

AS FIRE EXTINGUISHERS ARE IN THERE AND ALL THAT TYPE STUFF, IT WOULD FALL UNDER THAT THRESHOLD.

WHAT WE DON'T WANT TO DO IS TRIGGER AN INSPECTION OF THAT BUILDING BECAUSE IT DOESN'T MEET CODE RIGHT NOW.

RIGHT.

AND WE WOULD HAVE TO FILL IT AND IT'S OCCUPIED DAILY BY PEOPLE.

AND THEN, THEN WE WOULDN'T HAVE TO HAVE A FIRE WATCH CONTINUOUS UNTIL THE SPRINKLER SYSTEM'S PODIUM.

RIGHT.

IT'S ABANDONED BECAUSE WE WOULD, IF WE PASSED IT, THAT'S BAD 'CAUSE 'CAUSE WE'RE HAVING AN ENFORCE OUTSIDE.

SO, SO CURRENTLY IF OR LESS CAN CONSUME ALCOHOL IN THE CHAOS ROOM OR WE WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN, MAKE A CHANGE FOR THAT TO OCCUR.

YOU HAVE TO MAKE A CHANGE TO THAT.

WE COULD PUT A CONSENT ITEM ON THE AGENDA FOR NEXT, UH, COUNCIL IF YOU WANTED TO DO THAT.

BUT IT WOULD, UM, I'LL HAVE TO CONFIRM WITH BUILDING IF THAT'S GONNA CHANGE THE CLASSIFICATION OF IT.

'CAUSE IT MAY TRIGGER AN INSPECTION.

YEAH, BECAUSE IT'S AN A THREE RIGHT NOW AND ONCE YOU ADD ALCOHOL TO SOMETHING ASSEMBLY IT TURNS TO AN A TWO.

THAT'S, THAT'S A CHANGE.

THE, UH, THE PARKS AND REC ORDINANCES AND POLICIES AND RULES AND EVERYTHING HAVE BEEN VETTED THROUGH PARK FORCES, THROUGH COUNCIL.

SO AS A MATTER, AS SOON AS, AS WE ARE ALL IN AGREEMENT WITH THE FIRE CODE AND THINGS LIKE THAT, THE CHANGING OF THE POLICIES WE HAVE READY TO GO.

BUT IT'S JUST A MATTER OF MAKING SURE THAT, THAT EVERYBODY'S ON BOARD.

WELL COUNSEL, IS THERE A DESIRE TO, TO CONTINUE TO, TO MAKE THAT CHANGE? AS FAR AS THE TEJAS ROOM GOES? I'D LIKE TO SEE IF, IF IT WOULD TRIGGER A CHANGE, UM, AND KIND OF FIGURE OUT FIRST WHAT WOULD HAPPEN.

AND THEN FROM THERE, I MEAN IF NOTHING HAPPENS THEN I WOULDN'T SEE A PROBLEM.

BUT 50 PEOPLE, WE COULD UM, WE COULD, COULD IT BE EVEN LIKE WORTH IT? ? YEAH.

YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE WE REALLY ACHIEVING? EXACTLY.

THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I'M HEARING.

IF WE TRY TO DO IT FOR THE WHOLE BUILDING, IT'S GONNA CHANGE THE PERSPECTIVE FOR THE BUILDING.

SO THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO PREVENT.

THE ISSUE OF FIRE WATCH NOT BEING INTENDED FOR THAT TYPE OF USE.

FIRE WATCH TYPE THINGS ARE USED EVERYWHERE.

SO I DON'T HAVE AS MUCH OF A PROBLEM WITH THAT.

THAT'S, THAT'S MORE OF A POLICY TYPE THING.

THERE'S NOT A LAW THAT SAYS YOU CAN'T DO A FIRE WATCH EVERY, EVERY NIGHT.

BUT I UNDERSTAND IF, IF WE PUT ALCOHOL IN THERE, IT CHANGES THE FUNCTION OF THE BUILDING, WHICH WOULD REQUIRE ADDITIONAL, WE NEED TO STAY AWAY FROM THAT.

I I CAN UNDERSTAND THAT.

SO, UH, YOU, YOU CAN LOOK, SEE IF THE TEO OR, BUT THAT'S A PRETTY SMALL PARTY.

BUT THEN AGAIN, YOU KNOW, SMALL FAMILY GROUP WANTS TO GET TOGETHER AND HAVE A BIRTHDAY PARTY WITH SOME ALCOHOL WHILE WE LEAVE.

WE DO THAT.

WE, WE CAN, UH, TALK OFFLINE ABOUT THAT IF YOU GOOD.

AND THEN WE CAN ALSO WHAT'S THAT? YEAH, WE CAN ALSO EXPLORE JUST SOME BALLPARK QUOTES ON HOW MUCH IT WOULD COST TO SPRINKLE THE COMMUNITY CENTER.

WE, MAYBE A QUARTER MILLION DOLLARS WAS THROWN OUT THERE, BUT THAT WAS JUST KIND OF A GUESS.

UH, BUT IT'S NOT GONNA BE A SMALL PICTURE.

YEAH.

I'M JUST ONE OPINION, BUT I'M, I'M NOT IN FAVOR PERSONALLY

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IN MY OPINION IT'S THE CITY HALL COMPLEX.

THERE'S A MILLION OTHER VENUES.

WE DRINK ALCOHOL, YOU KNOW, BUNCH A EXHIBITION, BOXING MATCH OR WHATEVER.

THE, THE THOUGHT PROCESS WAS TO SERVE ALCOHOL.

THIS WOULD BE ALL COMPLEX OBJECT.

IT'S NOT A PROPONENT SAY I'M ONLY ONE TO BE.

YEAH, NO, I WOULDN'T, I MEAN I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO MAKE A SIGNIFICANT INVESTMENT FOR THE SAKE OF A SUBSET OF THE EVENTS THAT WOULD BECAUSE IT'S BEING USED NOW AND WITHOUT BEING ABLE TO HAVE ALCOHOL.

SAME WAY.

I'M THE SAME WAY.

I MEAN WE'RE GOING THROUGH A RENOVATION AT EVERGREEN AND THEY WANT TO HOST SOMETHING OVER THERE.

RIGHT.

OR THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO SERVE ALCOHOL AND IT'S BIGGER.

ABSOLUTELY.

SO, GREAT.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU GUYS.

THANKS CLIFF.

THANK YOU CLIFF.

APPRECIATE THAT.

WITH THAT WE'LL MOVE ON

[b. Discuss providing minimal water service to annexed property located at Wright Lane. ]

DISCUSS PROVIDING MINIMAL WATER SERVICE TO ANNEX PROPERTY.

LOCATED IN RIGHT LANE.

COUNCILMAN LESTER AND MR. SEMINO.

ALRIGHT, I'LL KIND OF LEAD OFF FOR FRANK JUMPS IN THERE.

THIS, THIS IS AN ISSUE, UH, Y'ALL KNOW, UM, BLANK DOWN THERE.

TOM, TOM KING K I'VE KNOWN MR. KINCAID SINCE I CAME TO THE CITY IN NINE NINE, BELIEVE ME.

UH, ON A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT ISSUES.

UH, HIS PROPERTY'S ALL THE WAY DOWN AT THE END TO THE LEFT ON TRI-CITY BEACH ROAD.

HE'S ESPOUSED FOR 20 PLUS YEARS.

HE'S PART OF THE CITY AND HE'S NOT PROVIDED ANY BASIC SERVICES, WATER OR SEWER.

SINCE I'VE BEEN ELECTED TO COUNSEL, WE'VE HAD SEVERAL DISCUSSIONS AND I'M, I'M BASICALLY FLAT TOED HIM.

SEWER IS OFF THE TABLE AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED 'CAUSE JUST WE HAVE PUT IN ANOTHER LIFT STATION DESIGN SIZE AND COST OF THAT WOULD JUST BE EXTRAORDINARY.

PROVIDING WATER, WE CAN PUSH WATER ANYWHERE.

SO THAT'S WHY I'VE ASKED, SEE MANAGER AND FRANK.

IT'S KIND LIKE WE, WE NEED TO KICK THIS BALL EITHER.

MY OPINION IS WE EITHER NEED TO PROVIDE SOME MINIMAL SERVICE OR WE NEED DE ANNEX HIM.

AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE PROCESS IS FOR THAT, BUT WE'VE GOT SOMEBODY WHO'S LIVED DOWN THERE FOR 20 PLUS YEARS, PAID PORTION OF HIS PROPERTY IN THE CITY, PAYING CITY TAXES AND THOSE SERVICES.

SO WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING WHAT THAT LEVEL IS.

FRANK'S GONNA GIVE A COUPLE OF PITCHES AND I'LL JUMP BACK IN AFTER THAT.

OKAY.

UH, THE, UH, MAYOR PRO COUNCIL, UH, SO I WAS ASKED TO LOOK AT, UH, WHAT IT WOULD TAKE TO RUN, UH, WATER SERVICE DOWN TO, UH, RIGHT LANE ON TRI-CITY BEACH.

UH, SO JUST LOOKING AT WHAT WE HAVE NOW, UM, WE HAVE, THIS IS, UH, AN AREA FROM OUR GIS SYSTEM.

SO WE'VE GOT, OKAY, MY CORNER'S NOT WORKING.

ANYWAY.

SO UP, UP AT THE TOP THERE YOU'VE GOT, UH, BAY ISLAND BOULEVARD.

YOU CAN SEE A LITTLE, UH, RED CROSS THERE.

THAT IS A, UH, A FIRE HYDRANT WHERE WE HAVE A AUB OUT OF OUR EXISTING WAR LINE THAT SERVES, UH, BAY OAKS HARBOR.

THAT'S A 12 INCH LINE THERE.

UM, SO, UH, AND, AND RIGHT LANE IS DOWN AT THE BOTTOM OF YOUR SCREEN THERE.

AND THE, UH, SALMON AREA IS THE CITY LIMITS.

SO WE WOULD, UH, IT'S UH, 5,200 FEET FROM, UH, MAY ISLAND BOULEVARD TO, UH, RIGHT LANE TO PROVIDE SERVICE THERE.

UH, THE SERVICE, THE REQUIREMENTS WE ARE WORKING UNDER IS, UH, WITHIN OUR SYSTEM.

WE HAVE TO MAINTAIN 35 PSI IN NORMAL CONDITIONS AND 20 PSI UNDER FIRE FLOOR CONDITIONS.

THAT'S OUR, UH, TCEQ REQUIREMENTS.

AND OUR ORDINANCE STATES THAT WE'RE REQUIRED TO, UH, HAVE FIRE HYDRANT SPACE, UH, 500 FEET WITHIN A RESIDENTIAL AREA.

UH, SO GIVEN THAT, UM, WE PROPOSED TO RUN EXTENDABLE 12 INCH LINE DOWN TRI-CITY BEACH ROAD TO, UH, RIGHT LANE, UH, IT IS PLE UH, HAVING DONE ALL OF THE ANALYSIS ON THE SIZE REQUIRED BECAUSE IT REALLY WILL ULTIMATELY DEPEND ON THE DEVELOPMENT THAT OCCURS ON THE AREA TO THE EAST OF TRI-CITY, BEACH ROAD.

SO THAT AREA WILL DEVELOP AS, UH, RESIDENTIAL AND IT WILL BE SERVED, UH, WITH, YOU KNOW, AS IT DEVELOPS.

UH, IT, AND WE'VE, I'VE HAD AN ENGINEER,

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UM, SMALLER LINES WOULD NOT MAINTAIN THE, UH, REQUIRED PRESSURE RESIDUAL BECAUSE OVER 5,200 FEET YOU LOSE, UH, THERE'S FRICTION WITHIN THE LINE.

YOU LOSE PRESSURE AS IT GOES THROUGH THE LINE.

AND SO WHEN YOU HAVE A SMALLER LINE LIKE THAT, IT WILL NOT MAINTAIN THE PRESSURE.

UH, SO IT DOES NEED TO BE A LARGER LINE.

UH, WE LOOKED AT, YOU KNOW, POSSIBLY RUNNING LIKE A SIX INCH LINE.

IT WOULD NOT MAINTAIN THE PRESSURE REQUIREMENT.

SO, UH, TO RUN A 12 INCH LINE DURING, FOR THAT UH, EXTENT, IT WOULD COST ABOUT 750,000.

AND THAT'S, UH, SOMETHING THAT I HAD ESTIMATED BEFORE IT WAS CONFIRMED BY THE ENGINEER THAT I HAVE LOOKED AT THIS.

UH, ALSO THE ISSUES, IF WE DID RUN THE LINE RIGHT NOW, WE WOULD'VE VERY LOW DEMAND.

UH, THERE'S PROBABLY FOUR OR FIVE RESIDENTIAL UNITS THERE TO USE.

UH, AVERAGE 0.37 GALLONS PER MINUTE PER CONNECTION.

UM, THE LINE ITSELF FROM BAY ALLEN BOULEVARD TO RIGHT BOULEVARD WOULD HOLD OVER 30,000 GALLONS OF WATER.

AND SINCE THAT WOULD BE VERY LITTLE USE, WE WOULD HAVE TO FLUSH THAT LINE TO MAINTAIN FRESH WATER.

AND SO WE WOULD HAVE TO FLUSH IT, I WOULD ESTIMATE AT LEAST WEEKLY TO MAINTAIN FRESH WATER.

SO THAT'S TWO HOURS OF, UH, STAFF TIME OF FLUSHING WATER AND OVER 30,000 GALLONS OF WATER THAT WE'RE GONNA DUMP ON THE GROUND AND WASTE EACH, EACH WEEK AT LEAST.

UM, SO, YOU KNOW, MY, MY RECOMMENDATION IS THAT IT WOULD BE DEVELOPMENT DRIVEN.

UH, AND, AND BRETT IS HERE, HE CAN TALK TO SOME OF THE, THE, UH, POTENTIAL DEVELOPMENT COMING WITH, UM, NOW THE COMPLETION OF HIGHWAY NINE NINE AND THE GOLF COURSE.

UH, WE BELIEVE THAT THERE IS DEVELOPMENT ENTRIES AND UH, IT MAY NOT BE TOO FAR OFF.

SO, UH, BRETT, UM, YOU WANT TO, FRANK, CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE, YEAH, THANK YOU.

SO, UH, WHEN THIS CAME UP THIS MORNING AND I WASN'T AWARE OF IT, UM, THIS PROPERTY RIGHT HERE IS ABOUT 13 ACRES OWNED BY BARK COOK AND I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH MR. COOK FOR ABOUT THE LAST YEAR ON GETTING THAT PROPERTY MOVED.

HE DOES WANT IT TO BE A RESIDENTIAL TYPE OF PROJECT FOR IT TO BE RESIDENTIAL OBVIOUSLY.

UM, WE NEED TO SERVE IT BECAUSE IT IS IN OUR CITY.

SO THERE WOULD BE ADDITIONAL HOUSING THAT WOULD COME DOWN THAT DIRECTION PROBABLY A LITTLE BIT SOONER THAN LATER THAN WHAT FRANK WAS AWARE OF.

THE SECONDARY PART OF THIS IS WITH THE REST OF THE DEVELOPMENT THAT'S GONNA HAPPEN ON THE SOUTH SIDE.

UM, I'VE HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH MANAGEMENT ABOUT CREATING A SECOND TURS AND UH, WE WANT, I'M WORKING ON THE BOUNDARIES OF THE SECOND TOURS THAT WE WOULD PRESENT TO YOU GUYS FIRST AND YOU WOULD ALL HAVE TO AGREE WITH IT.

BUT A TURS BEING THAT THERE IS A LOT OF DEVELOPABLE LAND DOWN HERE.

WE HAVE A LOT OF INCREMENT THAT WOULD BE CREATED.

WE ALREADY KNOW WHAT THE GOLF COURSE WITH DEVELOPMENT NEXT TO THE GOLF COURSE WITH MUR FOR EXAMPLE, IS GONNA HAVE TO BE EXTENDED A TOUR FUNCTION.

WE REALLY WANNA SEE THE TOURS BE USED FOR CITY INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS.

THIS IS A CITY INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECT AND I THINK, UM, COUNCIL LESTER, YOU AND I TALKED ABOUT THIS SEVERAL MONTHS AGO ABOUT WE CAN USE A TURS TO BE ABLE TO SERVICE THESE PEOPLE WHO'VE BEEN IN THE CITY FOR DECADES WHO'VE NOT GOTTEN THESE SERVICES.

NOW THE SECONDARY PART THOUGH IS THAT IT DOES TAKE A LITTLE TIME TO GET THE JURORS CREATED AND THAT I'VE GOTTA GET THE BOUNDARIES, I'VE GOTTA GET IT TO YOU GUYS.

Y'ALL GOTTA APPROVE IT.

WE HAVE TO ADVERTISE IT AND DO ALL THE LEGAL STUFF THAT WE HAVE TO DO FOR JURORS.

BUT ONCE THAT IS CREATED, THE NICE THING IS THIS VIRGIN GROUND IS GOING TO GIVE US A TON OF INCREMENT OVER THE NEXT 20 TO 30 YEARS THAT THE TOURISM ASSIST.

SO IF WE HAVE SOME TIME WITH THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY OWNER AND WE KNOW THAT THERE'S GONNA BE OTHER DEVELOPMENT COMING ONLINE, I BELIEVE THE TURS IS GONNA BE THE BEST FINANCIAL TOOL THAT WE CAN USE TO SATISFY THESE NEEDS IN THIS GROWING PART OF OUR CITY.

REALLY CONCLUDES WHAT I HAVE.

OKAY, WELL I'M GONNA COME BACK IN TALKING ABOUT ADDING FIRE HYDRANTS.

THE, THE PORTIONS ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE THERE THAT'S OUTSIDE THE CITY LIMITS.

THOSE RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES ARE OUTSIDE THE CITY LIMITS A LITTLE FURTHER DOWN TO RV PARK.

I I GUESS CHIEF THAT'S THE, IS THAT ONE OF THE ESDS THAT SERVICES THAT AREA.

AREA? I'M NOT AWARE OF ANY PARTICULAR ENTITY THAT SERVES THAT AREA FOR FIRE.

WE COVER IT BECAUSE THERE'S NO ONE ELSE TO DO COVERING POCKETS.

OKAY.

THE OTHER SIDE, ADDING THE FIRE HYDRANTS.

I KNOW Y'ALL CARRY WHAT, 500, 750 GALLONS OF, OF WATER ON ONE OF THE, ONE OF YOUR UNITS WHEN THEY GO, YOU HAD A FULL BLOWN HOUSE FIRE.

HOW LONG WOULD THAT 700 GALLONS LAST? WELL, IT NOT LONG.

THERE'S

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OKAY.

ESPECIALLY WITH THE RV PARK THAT'S PACKED, SO FORTH AND SO ON.

SO AGAIN, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S, IN MY OPINION, IT'S SIMPLY TIME THAT AS A CITY WE NEED TO LOOK AT THAT AREA AND COMMIT TO PROVIDING BASIC MINIMUM SERVICES IF THERE'S A POTENTIAL FOR RESIDENTIAL.

I DIDN'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THE 13 ACRES OF RESIDENTIAL COMING IN DOWN THERE.

UM, WHAT'S THE HARM OF US? AND AGAIN, I'M NOT SAYING TOMORROW AND YOU KNOW, WITHIN A YEAR OR SO MOVING FORWARD, GETTING THE LINE PUT IN PLACE THAT WOULD POTENTIALLY ENCOURAGE THE DEVELOPMENT IF IT'S THERE, UH, THAT TYPE OF STUFF.

YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST ONE OF THOSE, I'VE BEEN AWARE OF MR. KINCAID AND HIS ISSUE FOR 20 PLUS YEARS AND IT'S LIKE OKAY IT'S, WE GOTTA, WE GOTTA DO SOMETHING.

SO, AND THAT'S WHY I'M PUSHING FOR IT.

SO WOULD YOU BE OKAY WITH WAITING FOR THE TURNS OR ARE YOU LOOKING TO DO SOMETHING SOONER IF TUR SHOULDN'T TAKE A YEAR OR SO TO CREATE IF THAT LONG AND THEN I AGREE IF WE CAN USE THE TURS IN THAT AREA TO DEVELOP THE, THE UTILITY ISSUES, INFRASTRUCTURE ISSUES, THAT MAKES SENSE.

AS FAR AS FINANCIAL NOW AGAIN, IT'S KIND, WELL AGAIN IT'S 750,000.

IT'S GONNA BE ANOTHER 10 OR 15 YEARS LIKE THAT.

I'LL START PUSHING FOR OTHER ALTERNATIVES, BUT UH, YEAH, I DON'T WAITED 24 OR FIVE YEARS, SOMETHING IN ANOTHER YEAR OR SO.

IT'S NOT GONNA HAVE A PROBLEM.

THE OTHER SIDE OF IT IS RIGHT NOW HE'S ON WELL AND SEPTIC SYSTEM AND IS, UH, THE WELLS DOWN THERE ARE STARTING TO GO SOUTH.

UM, HE GETS, THEY GET METHANE IN THEIR WATER.

I WONDER WHERE THAT COMES FROM.

COULDN'T BE THAT BIG LANDFILL JUST CROSSED THE VALUE, BUT, BUT THEY'RE STARTING TO GET, YOU KNOW, CONTAMINATION IN THEIR WELL.

SO HOW MUCH LONGER CAN THAT THAT GO WITHOUT IT? I DUNNO.

DOES ANYBODY HAVE KIND OF A TIMEFRAME ON ANY OF THIS? I MEAN, ESTIMATED TIMEFRAME ON THE DEVELOPMENT OF THAT PROPERTY? UH, MR. COOK HAS HAD TWO VERY INTERESTED PARTIES.

THE CHALLENGE HAS BEEN THE LACK OF UTILITIES IN THAT AREA.

WHAT I'VE SUGGESTED TO HIM IS THAT WE'VE HAD CONVERSATIONS ABOUT CREATING SECOND TOURS.

THE FIRST PART, UH, OF THIS WAS GETTING THE GOLF COURSE ESTABLISHED.

SO WE KNOW WE'RE GONNA BE GOING DOWN THAT DIRECTION.

WE KNOW THAT THAT WILL BE IN THE INDIVIDUAL.

WOULD YOU SAY WITHIN THE NEXT 12 MONTHS HE WOULD SEEK SOME TYPE OF WORK? I WOULD SAY WITHIN PROBABLY THE NEXT SIX MONTHS THE TOURS WOULD BE CREATED.

AND THEN I DON'T, WE WE, WE DID HIRE, UH, KIM HORN TO DO A, UH, MASTER PLAN OF THAT AREA ALONG WITH A TOURS, UH, EVALUATION AND FINANCING.

SO THAT, UH, PLAN IS, UH, COMING TO COMPLETION.

I I DON'T HAVE THE, THE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS THEY'LL FINISH WITH THAT PLAN AND THEN WE CAN TURN IT OVER TO THE TURS TO CREATE THAT, THAT TUR.

SO I GUESS THAT'S THE NEXT LEVEL OF DISCUSSION.

WHAT WE DO CREATE SECOND, COULD WE ADVANCE FUND AND THEN LET THE TUR, SO THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT MY THOUGHTS WERE.

SO WE COULD, WE UNDERWRITE THIS BASICALLY AND, AND THEN GET SEEK REIMBURSEMENT FROM, LET ME, LET ME CHECK ON THAT WITH OUR CONSULTANT VERSION.

OH, THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT FRANK, DO WE HAVE ANY ARPA MONEY SINCE WE'VE BEEN USING THAT FOR INFRASTRUCTURE ARPA FUNDING? WE'RE PLANNING ON USING THAT MOSTLY ON OUR WASTEWATER SYSTEM.

AND WE HAVE SEVERAL PROJECTS THAT OKAY.

WE'RE GONNA BE, I'LL EXPLAIN THAT IN OUR CIP PRESENTATION COMING UP.

THANKS COUNCIL.

IF THE ANSWER IS YES ON THAT, THEN WE COULD PROGRAM THAT INTO THIS YEAR'S, UH, CAPITAL PROJECT PROJECTS AND THEN GET THE REIMBURSEMENT FROM IT BACK INTO THE CIP.

WE CAN CHECK ON IT.

THAT WOULD BE THE STRATEGY.

I WOULD, I WOULD RECOMMEND.

SO LIKE DEVELOPMENT OF THIS AREA IS PRETTY IMMINENT AND I, I, I APPRECIATE COLLEAGUES LISTENING, HEARING THIS OUT 'CAUSE IT'S, IT'S GONNA BE DEVELOPING.

IT'S JUST, IT'S JUST TIME TO START PUSHING SOME OF THESE THINGS FROM LIKE THEY'VE BEEN LOOKING AT IT FOR A WHILE BUT WE HAVEN'T HEARD ANYTHING ABOUT IT.

SO LET'S START PUSHING SOME OF THIS STUFF FORWARD SO WE CAN START HAVING THE CONVERSATION SAYING, YEAH, THAT'S A GOOD IDEA OR NOT INTERESTED AT ALL.

LET'S MOVE ON.

SO I LIKE THE IDEA OF CREATING SECOND TOURS.

THAT WHOLE AREA IS GOOD THAT I KNOW THE RESIDENTS THAT LIVE IN THAT NON CITY AREA WOULD, I KNOW A COUPLE OF 'EM THAT LIVE DOWN THERE.

THEY WOULD PROBABLY SEEK TO, TO CONNECT OR WHATEVER THEY GOTTA DO TO HAVE WATER.

THEY'D LIKE A BETTER WATER SOURCE AS WELL.

WITH A RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT, ARE YOU THINKING ABOUT ADDING A LIFT STATION OR SEWER LINE DOWN THERE OR JUST PROVIDE THAT WOULD BE PART OF THE DEVELOPER'S PLAN

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'CAUSE LET'S SAY RIGHT NOW THE BALLPARK ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE CITY, THERE'S ROUGHLY 1500 ACRES THAT CAN BE BUILT OUT INTO WHAT WE'RE ANTICIPATING, UM, IN A HIGHER END MARKET.

AND WITH THAT YOU'LL NEED BOTH WATER AND SEWER DOWN THERE.

SO I THINK HORN IS, WE MET A COUPLE MONTHS AGO WITH THEM.

WE TALKED ABOUT THE FACT THAT WE NEED TO HAVE A STATION OR SOME TYPE OF PACKAGE SERVICE THAT THAT IS GONNA BE DOWN THAT DIRECTION.

SO WATER IS WATER'S GOOD.

WE'VE GOT BAWA EAST RIGHT DOWN THAT DIRECTION THAT COULD BE FILLED, UH, TO THE WEST.

AND THEN WE HAVE THE CENTRAL LINE OF THE WHI AREA THAT CAN COME SOUTH.

SO WE CAN CREATE A LOOP OF WATER.

UH, IT IS JUST A MATTER OF OKAY.

BUT YOU CAN COLLABORATE WITH FRANK ON THAT AND GET HIM THAT INFORMATION.

AND THEN WE'LL, WE'LL TALK MORE ABOUT HOW TO PROGRAM THIS IN THE EVENT THAT FOR WHATEVER REASON WE CAN'T UTILIZE THE T TO REIMBURSE THE CITY.

DOES THE COUNCIL HAVE AN APPETITE TO CONTINUE TO PROGRAM THIS INTO THE BUDGET REGARDLESS AND PIONEER THIS SHAKING SECOND 50 KNOWING THAT THE DEVELOPMENT DOWN THERE'S GONNA DEMAND IT ANYWAY.

AND WE HAVE SOME PEOPLE LOOKING, BUT THAT'S WHAT'S HOLDING THEM UP.

AND LET'S SEE IF WE CAN PUT A LITTLE CHEESE ON THE TRAP.

THE LIKELIHOOD IS PERFORM AND I THINK THAT WE'LL BE ABLE TO BACK TO US.

THAT MAKES IT EASY.

OKAY.

SO WITH THAT WE'LL

[c. Discuss any or all of the agenda items on the City Council Regular Meeting Agenda for May 12, 2022, which is attached below.]

NO, VERY NONE WILL ADJOURN.