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THE, THE BAYTOWN POLICE ADVISORY COMMITTEE FOR APRIL THE 26TH, 2022, IS NOW CALLED TO ORDER.
[1. ELECTION OF OFFICERS]
ORDER OF BUSINESS.TONIGHT IS GOING TO BE THE ELECTION OF OFFICERS AND GOING TO BE CONSIDERING THE ELECTION OF THE, OUR CHAIRPERSON AND OUR VICE CHAIRPERSON.
AND BEFORE WE PROCEED, I JUST WANT TO SAY, UH, ON BEHALF OF THE COMMITTEE, WE APPRECIATE, UH, PASTOR RAFAEL MONTGOMERY FOR CHAIRING THE COMMITTEE FOR, UH, THE FIRST YEAR OR SO, HOWEVER LONG IT WAS.
AND WE APPRECIATE HIS COMMITMENT.
HOWEVER, DUE TO HIS ADDRESS, HE WAS UNABLE TO CONTINUE HIS WORK HERE.
BUT WE DO APPRECIATE, UM, HIS, HIS DILIGENCE TO CHAIR THIS.
AND SO, UM, UH, WE ARE GOING TO MOVE INTO THE ELECTION OF THE CHAIR AND THE VICE CHAIR.
UH, WE DO HAVE JUST, UH, TWO VACANCIES, AND THAT IS THE MAYOR'S REPRESENTATION AND ALSO DISTRICT SIX.
AND THEN THERE ARE TWO INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE ON OUR, ON THE, UH, ADVISORY COMMITTEE THAT ARE UNABLE TO BE ELIGIBLE TO SERVE AS CHAIR OR VICE CHAIR.
AND THAT IS GOING TO BE CORPORAL STEVE KIN, UH, WHO IS THE CITY MANAGER'S, UH, REPRESENTATIVE, AND THEN ALSO LIEUTENANT RODNEY EVANS, WHO IS THE POLICE CHIEF'S REPRESENTATION.
MS. ANGIE, ARE THERE ANY INSTRUCTIONS BEFORE WE PROCEED WITH THIS VOTE ON HOW YOU WOULD LIKE FOR US TO CONSIDER THIS? SO EACH OF YOU HAVE TWO LITTLE STRIPS OF PAPER NEXT TO YOU.
UM, YOU USE ONE FOR CHAIR AND ONE FOR VICE CHAIR.
AND SO AFTER EACH ONE, I'M GONNA PICK IT UP AND THEN IT, AND THEN YOU CAN VOTE.
DO I, WE CAN MAKE NOMINATIONS ON YOUR, WE CAN'T MAKE NOMINATIONS.
HOW ARE YOU GONNA, SO WHAT WE COULD, SO CHAIR, USUALLY YOU MAKE A NOMINATION.
YOU CAN DO IT, YOU CAN DO IT TWO WAYS.
YOU CAN MAKE A NOMINATION AND THEN YOU CAN VOTE ACCORDINGLY.
OR THEN, OR YOU CAN JUST VOTE VIA PAPER.
WELL, YOU HAVE TO KNOW WHO YOU WANT TO VOTE FOR.
WELL, YOU CAN NOMINATE YOURSELF, AND THEN THE TOP VOTE WILL GET THE, UM, COOL.
I'D LIKE TO MAKE A NOMINATION THEN.
HARISSA, UH, MORENO AS CHAIRMAN.
ANY OTHER NOMINATIONS? SO ARE YOU SAYING IT DOES NOT HAVE TO BE A VOICE NOMINATION? IT CAN BE A SIMPLE WRITTEN NOMINATION.
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OKAY.SO FOR CHAIR, I HAVE, UM, THREE FOR DR. MORENO, AND I HAVE FOUR FOR, UM, PASTOR
DO WE NEED TO RATIFY THAT IN ANY WAY? YES, WE NEED TO.
DO I HAVE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE, IS IT A MOTION TO ACCEPT? IS, IS THAT WORKS? DO I NEED TO DO A MOTION TO ACCEPT OR, OKAY.
MOTION TO ACCEPT THE VOTE AS READ BY THE CLERK.
MR. INGER? DO I HAVE A SECOND? DID HE FIRST IT OR SECOND? YEAH, I NEED A MOTION.
IS THERE ANY CHANCE WE CAN REVOTE FOR THE VICE CHAIR SINCE WE DIDN'T KNOW WHO WAS GONNA BE THE CHAIRMAN? UM, WELL, DID YOU ASK THEM TO DO CHAIR AND VICE CHAIR ON THAT PIECE OF PAPER? OKAY.
UM, I MEAN, IT'S KIND OF DONE AT THIS POINT.
AND DID I, DID I GET A, A VOICE VOTE? ALL IN FAVOR? DID I ASK THAT WE GOT THE FIRST, WE GOT THE SECOND.
DID I ASK FOR? I DON'T THINK YOU DID.
IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND DOING OKAY.
SHE'S GONNA TELL YOU ABOUT THE VICE CHAIR.
I, I THOUGHT WE WERE DOING TWO TWO AT ONE CHAIR.
SO, UM, FOR VICE CHAIR, UM, THE MAJORITY IS DR.
DO I HAVE A MOTION TO ACCEPT? SO MOVED.
NOW ARE WE READY TO MOVE ON? YES.
IT'S AN HONOR TO BEEN A PLEASURE TO SERVE, AND I WILL ENDEAVOR, DO MY BEST TO CONTINUE IN THE ROLE THAT I HAVE BEEN PLAYING FOR SEVERAL MONTHS NOW.
AND I'LL MAKE SURE HE DOES IT.
SHE WILL DEFINITELY KEEP ME ON MY TOES, AND I'M NOT OPPOSED TO THAT.
LET ME GET DOWN HERE TO THE AGENDA CORRECTLY.
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ALRIGHTY.UH, WE'RE GOING TO BE THANK YOU.
YOU KNOW, YOU WERE EXACTLY WHERE WE WERE.
WE'RE GONNA CONSIDER APPROVING THE MINUTES OF THE BAYTOWN POLICE ADVISORY COMMITTEE MEETING HELD MARCH THE 22ND, 2022.
DO I HAVE A MOTION TO ACCEPT I MOVED OR SO DO I HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND.
ALL IN FAVOR OF ACCEPTING THE MINUTES AS THEY ARE WRITTEN, SAY, AYE.
ANY OPPOSED? DISCUSSION? OKAY.
WE WOULD LOVE TO THANK THE NEW MINUTE TAKER AND, UM, TRANSCRIBERS FOR DOING AN EXCELLENT JOB ON THE MINUTES.
HER NAME IS, UM, DILIN, AND I'LL BE SURE TO LET HER KNOW.
UH, SO NOW THE VOTE, ACTUAL VOTE TO ACCEPT.
ALL OPPOSED? AND IT IS CARRIED.
[3. CITIZEN INPUT]
MOVING ON TO NUMBER ITEM THREE A.AND WE'RE GOING TO RECEIVE CITIZEN INPUT CONCERNING POLICE OUTREACH, COMMUNITY POLICING OFFICER TRAINING, AS WELL AS POLICY AND PROCEDURES.
AND WE DO HAVE ONE PERSON THAT IS SIGNED UP, MR. DON AKEY, THAT'S GONNA SIGN, THAT'S GOING TO READ.
BUT BEFORE YOU COME UP, MR. AKEY, UH, JUST WANT TO GIVE A QUICK OVERVIEW OF, OF THIS.
UM, THIS ITEM GIVES ALL INTERESTED
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PERSONS THE RIGHT TO EXPRESS THEIR VIEWS REGARDING POLICE OUTREACH, COMMUNITY, UH, POLICING OFFICER TRAINING, AS WELL AS POLICY AND PROCEDURE.IT IS THE GOAL AND THE MISSION OF THIS COMMITTEE TO ENHANCE AND ENCOURAGE COMMUNICATION BETWEEN THE RESIDENTS OF THE CITY AND TO PROVIDE VALUABLE COMMENTS, SUGGESTIONS, RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE CITY COUNCIL.
EVERYONE DESIRING TO SPEAK SHOULD HAVE EITHER SIGNED THE LIST AND THE FOYER OR EMAILED THE CITY CLERK PRIOR TO THE POSTED TIME OF THIS MEETING.
EACH PARTICIPANT SHALL GIVE HIS OR HER NAME AND ADDRESS IN ORDER TO PROVIDE A PROPER RECORD.
THE RULES ALLOW EACH PERSON THREE MINUTES TO PRESENT INFORMATION.
HOWEVER, I ENCOURAGE EVERYONE TO BE AS BRIEF AND TO THE POINT AS POSSIBLE.
ADDITIONALLY, PURSUANT TO OUR RULES, A PERSON REQUESTING TO ADDRESS THE COMMITTEE MAY NOT PASS HIS OR HER TIME TO ANOTHER AS WE WANT TO HEAR DIRECTLY FROM EACH INDIVIDUAL.
SO, MR. DON AKEY, IF YOU WILL, STEP TO THE PODIUM AND PLEASE STATE YOUR ADDRESS, YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.
AND THEN YOU WILL HAVE THREE MINUTES.
I THOUGHT THIS WAS GONNA BE A LITTLE BIT MORE INFORMAL, BUT ANYHOW.
I LIVE IN LAKEWOOD ON ROLLING WOOD ROAD, FOUR 10 ROLLING WOOD ROAD.
I'VE BEEN THERE BASICALLY SINCE 1957.
UH, MY PROBLEM OCCURRED IN MARCH OF 2015.
I CALLED 9 1 1 ABOUT AN INCIDENT AT MY HOUSE.
THEY HAD AN OFFICER COME UP, UH, AND TO MAKE IT REAL TERRIBLE, IT WAS OVER A DIVORCE AND THE CUSTODY OF A DOG.
AND YOU PROBABLY CAN'T GET ANY DIRTIER THAN THAT.
I WOULD NOT TURN THE DOG OVER TO A THIRD PARTY THAT HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH IT.
AND THEY WERE BEATING THE DEVIL OUT OF THE FRONT OF MY HOUSE.
AND INSTEAD OF ME GOING OUTSIDE AND CAUSING A PROBLEM, I CALLED 9 1 1.
I NEED AN OFFICER HERE TO REMOVE THIS PARTY FROM MY HOUSE.
THE OFFICER CAME OUT HIS 9 1 1 REPORT.
HIS POLICE REPORT SAYS, CONTACTED WHEN EX-HUSBAND DON FAILED TO TURN OVER THEIR DOG ACCORDING TO CUSTODIAL PAPERWORK RIGHT THERE.
THAT'S CIVIL, THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH CRIMINAL.
HE NEVER DID PUT THE THIRD PARTY'S NAME ON HERE.
I WENT TO THE, I WAS IN A DIVORCE, AND I KNOW JUDGES HAVE THE PLAINTIFF, AND THEY GOT, THEY GOT BOTH SIDES.
THE JUDGE ALWAYS BELIEVES THE POLICE REPORT.
THIS JUDGE SAYS HE WAS CONTACTED BY HER.
THERE'S TWO PEOPLE, DEANIE KING AND KAREN HORNER, BOTH IN THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
TAKE IT TO INTERNAL AFFAIRS AND THEY'LL GET IT STRAIGHT.
I TOOK IT TO INTERNAL AFFAIRS.
'CAUSE I THOUGHT THEIR RULE WAS TO FIND THE TRUTH THERE.
I'M NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO FINISH IN A MINUTE, BUT THAT'S WHY I TOOK IT TO INTERNAL AFFAIRS.
THEY SENT THE OFFICER OUT THERE, HE CAME TO MY HOUSE, STAYED AT THE END OF MY DRIVEWAY, CALLED ME OUT THERE AND SAID, I'M NOT CHANGING THAT REPORT FOR YOU, THE POLICE CHIEF OR ANY OTHER SON OF A B***H.
AND TOLD ME TO GO BACK INSIDE.
SO THE REPORT IS STILL WRONG, EVEN THOUGH BAYTOWN LEGAL SAID I WAS SCREWED ON THE DEAL.
UH, AND THE OFFICER STILL WORKS THERE.
AND SO IF I EVER GO TO JURY DUTY AND I HAVE A OFFICER, A CITY OFFICER THERE, I'M NOT GONNA BELIEVE WHAT THEY SAY.
THEY DON'T RULE, THEY DON'T TAKE CARE OF THEIR OWN HOUSE.
AND THAT'S JUST, THAT'S THE WAY I AM.
WELL, FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR, FOR STANDING, STANDING HERE TODAY.
IF, IF YOU COULD, IF YOU HAVE THE TIME, UM, AFTER OUR, OUR MEETING IS OVER, I'D LIKE FOR YOU TO, UH, UH, DR. MORENO AND I, ALONG WITH CHIEF STRINGER, WOULD LOVE TO, TO HAVE, UH, A CON A CONVERSATION WITH YOU MAYBE TO SEE IF, IF THERE'S SOME DETAILS THAT THAT, UH, MAY BE ABLE TO, TO BE LOOKED AT IF, IF, IF YOU'RE OKAY WITH THAT.
AND IF THEY THINK IT'S FINE TO MESS PEOPLE AROUND AND THE GOOD COPS, I'M NOT SAYING BAD THINGS ABOUT ANY POLICEMAN IN BAYTOWN EXCEPT THE ONE.
AND IF GOOD COPS DON'T HAVE THE NERVE TO SIT THERE AND POLICE THEIR OWN PEOPLE, THEY GOTTA REALIZE THE WHOLE POLICE FORCE IS GONNA GET STAINED.
WELL, WE APPRECIATE YOU FOR, FOR
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STEPPING UP AND, UM, AND AT LEAST BRINGING A POTENTIAL SITUATION TO, WELL, IT'S A, IT'S A REAL SITUATION TO YOU, BUT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE, OH, IT DOESN'T MATTER.I'M NOT OVER THE BAYTOWN POLICE DEPARTMENT.
WELL, WE, WE DEFINITELY, THAT'S WHAT THIS ADVISORY COMMITTEE IS, IS, IS PUT TOGETHER TO TRY TO RESOLVE ANY, UH, ONGOING SITUATIONS.
AND SO WE APPRECIATE YOUR, YOU, UH, TAKING THE TIME TO BE HERE TONIGHT.
MR. EY, THAT'S, WELL, I, I TALKED TO MY LOCAL ADVISORY, EXCUSE ME, MARISSA MARINO.
WHO'S NOT RELATED TO WILLIE MARINO.
BUT I KNOW WILLIE, SHE SAID THAT IF I DIDN'T MIND COMING AND TELLING MY STORY, THAT WE, WE APPRECIATE IT.
AND AFTER, AFTER OUR OUR BUSINESS IS CONDUCTED, WE WOULD LOVE TO HAVE A, A SIDEBAR CONVERSATION WITH YOU.
[a. Discuss and consider priorities and recommendations for the Baytown Police Advisory Committee's buckets of concern to include, but not limited to Mental Illness, Transparency and Accountability, Training and Development, and Positive Engagement. ]
ON TO, UH, BUSINESS ITEM FOUR A AND WE ARE GOING TO, UH, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER PRIORITIES AND RECOMMENDATION, UH, FOR THE BAYTOWN POLICE ADVISORY COMMITTEE.BUCKETS OF CONCERN, UH, TO INCLUDE, BUT NOT LIMITED TO MENTAL HEALTH, MENTAL ILLNESS, TRANSPARENCY, ACCOUNTABILITY, TRAINING AND DEVELOPMENT, AND POSITIVE ENGAGEMENT.
THAT THE LAST MEETING, UH, I REMEMBER THAT WE, UH, WANTED TO LOOK AT THIS AND MAKE SURE THAT WE WERE TR UH, I THINK WE'VE, WE'VE REALLY DONE A EXCELLENT JOB OF LOOKING AT OUR, UH, BUCKETS OF CONCERNS, SPECIFICALLY IN THE MENTAL ILLNESS WITH OUR CORE PROGRAM AND ALSO OUR, UH, MENTAL AWARENESS AND THE, THE STICKERS.
UH, BUT I KNOW THAT SEVERAL OF YOU HAD BROUGHT UP SOME ITEMS THAT WE NEED TO CONSIDER.
AND SO FOR THE NEXT FEW MOMENTS, WHAT I'D LIKE FOR US TO, UH, JUST HAVE A, A DISCUSSION HERE ON THE DAIS OF SOME THINGS THAT WE FEEL NEED TO BE ADDRESSED AND MAYBE HAVE SOME, UH, SOME WORK ITEMS THAT WE CAN LOOK AT IN, IN THE COMING MEETINGS.
SO, UH, I WANNA SAY YOU HAD A PRETTY SIGNIFICANT ONE AT THE LAST I DID AT THE LAST MEETING THAT I WOULD LIKE DR. MORENO TO, TO BRING BACK.
YOU WANT ME TO START ON THAT ONE? YES.
SO, UM, NOW THAT IT'S ON THE AGENDA YES, I COULD TALK ABOUT IT.
UM, MINE WAS ABOUT THE TRAINING AND DEVELOPMENT.
I TALKED SPECIFICALLY ABOUT THE CULTURAL DIVERSITY, UH, TRAINING THAT YOUR TRANSCRIPTIONIST REMINDED ME OF ALL THE THINGS I SAID.
UM, AND SO I GUESS I WANTED TO GO BACK TO THAT BECAUSE I'M STILL A LITTLE CONCERNED, UM, ABOUT THE T COLE AND, UM, THE CURRENT CULTURAL DIVERSITY TRAINING THAT'S BEING DONE.
UM, AND I KNOW THAT YOU HAD MENTIONED A POSSIBILITY OF FINDING ONLINE ONES, BUT I, I STILL FEEL LIKE WE SHOULD CONSIDER MAYBE DOING A LITTLE BIT MORE FACE TO FACE, WHEREAS ONLINE COULD BE SOMETHING WHERE YOU JUST CLICK, CLICK, CLICK, CLICK, TAKE A TEST, RETAIN.
BUT THERE'S NOT REALLY AN INTERACTION WHEN IT COMES TO CULTURAL DIVERSITY.
AND WHILE I RESPECT ALL THIS STUFF THAT'S BEING DONE WITH THE HISPANIC POPULATION, WE DO HAVE, YOU KNOW, AFRICAN AMERICAN, YOU KNOW, CARIBBEAN, AMERICAN, YOU KNOW, ALL OF OTHER AREAS THAT NEED TO BE CONSIDERED WHEN WE CONSIDER THE WORD CULTURAL.
RENO AND I, AND I'M, I'M, I'M ALL FOR THE DIVERSITY TRAINING MM-HMM
BUT WHAT DO YOU, WHAT DO YOU ENVISION IS GOING TO BE, I'M GONNA ASK, I I'M, I'M, I'M ASKING THE QUESTION, WHAT DO YOU ENVISION IS GOING TO BE DIFFERENT THAN WHAT IS CURRENTLY AVAILABLE THROUGH TCO? UM, WELL, MY FIRST QUESTION ABOUT TCO IS THAT'S ONLY OFFERED AT THE BEGINNING OF BOOTCAMP OR TRAINING, OR IS THAT SOMETHING THAT THEY HAVE TO DO EVERY TWO YEARS? OR IS IT SOMETHING LIKE, WHAT IS, WHAT IS THE EXPLANATION? BECAUSE THINGS CAN CHANGE A LOT IN TWO YEARS.
FIRST OF ALL, IT'S NOT BOOTCAMP.
AND THE ACADEMY IS ESSENTIALLY COLLEGE.
UM, AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, THAT I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE DELINEATE IS THAT THE IDEA OF MILITARIZATION MM-HMM
BECAUSE ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I'M TRYING TO, UH, ELIMINATE FROM OUR VOCABULARY, AND I I, I STARTED WORKING ON THIS IN MY OLD AGENCY, WAS CIVILIAN, THE WORD CIVILIAN, BECAUSE WE'RE ALL CIVILIANS.
UM, WE'RE EITHER SWORN OR NON-SWORN, UH, CITIZENS ALL ALIKE.
UM, BUT, UH, SOME OF THE THINGS THAT, UH, THAT WE DO, OFFICERS CONTINUE TO GET THAT TRAINING ON A REGULAR BASIS OF THE T COLE CYCLE.
UH, BUT WHAT I WANTED TO ENSURE YOU WAS THAT, UH, YES, UH, WE DO HAVE A LOT OF ON ONLINE TRAINING, HOWEVER, THAT ONLINE TRAINING, UM, IT'S VERY DETAILED QUESTIONS IN ANY OF THE, THE SWORN PERSONNEL IN THIS ROOM
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CAN TELL YOU IF YOU DON'T PAY ATTENTION TO IT, THAT YOU'RE, YOU'RE NOT GONNA PASS THE COURSE.UM, DO WE NEED MORE FACE-TO-FACE? ABSOLUTELY.
THAT INCLUDES, UH, UM, THAT INCLUDES THE ABILITY TO BE ABLE TO ASK QUESTIONS, TO HAVE AN INSTRUCTOR BE ABLE TO PUT YOU INTO A, A SITUATION WHERE YOU HAVE TO CONSIDER YOURSELF FROM ANOTHER CULTURE'S PERSPECTIVE.
AND, UH, YOU KNOW, SENSITIVITY MAY BE OVERUSED NOWADAYS, BUT IT, IT MAKES YOU MORE SENSITIVE TO THAT TYPE OF TRAINING.
LET ME NOT GET AHEAD OF MYSELF.
SO, SOME OF THE THINGS THAT OUR OFFICERS RECEIVE REGULAR TRAINING ON THAT RELATES TO CULTURAL SENSITIVITY, UH, CULTURAL AWARENESS.
AND I WOULD ALSO ARGUE THAT, UH, WHETHER WE ARE, ARE, ARE REACHING OUT TO OUR HISPANIC CULTURE, WE ARE MAKING ALL OF OUR PERSONNEL AWARE OF DIFFERENT CULTURES, OF DIFFERENT ETHNIC GROUPS.
SO THAT, WHILE RIGHT NOW, YES, OUR PRIMARY FOCUS IS, UM, THE MAJORITY OF OUR POPULATION AND THE HISPANIC COMMUNITY, 'CAUSE WE'VE RECOGNIZED THAT NEED TO BE ABLE TO BUILD TRUST IN THOSE COMMUNITIES.
BUT I WOULD SAY THAT, UH, A WELL-EDUCATED DEPARTMENT IS A MORE OPEN-MINDED DEPARTMENT.
THEREFORE, IF WE ARE THINKING ABOUT BEING CULTURALLY SENSITIVE AND AWARE OF PEOPLE WITH DIVERSE BACKGROUNDS, AND IT, IT, IT, IT TRANSLATES IN GENERAL IS, IS WHAT I WOULD HOPE AS WELL.
UM, BUT SOME OF THE, THE, THE CLASSES THAT OUR OFFICERS TAKE ON A REGULAR BASIS, UM, IMPLICIT BIAS TRAINING, UH, NO, GRANTED, THESE ARE, THESE ARE THE ONES THAT ARE JUST THE ONLINE CLASSES.
I HADN'T BEEN ABLE TO PULL THE, THE, THE IN-CLASS IN-PERSON TRAINING, BUT IMPLICIT BIAS, UH, THAT'S FOLLOWED UP BY ANTI-BIAS FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT.
UH, INTERMEDIATE CULTURAL DIVERSITY.
UM, THAT ONE'S, UH, AN EIGHT HOUR COURSE.
UH, INTERMEDIATE SUICIDE PREVENTION WHEN WE START GETTING INTO DEESCALATION AND THAT SORT OF THING.
UH, AS WELL AS THE SUICIDE BY COP PHENOMENA.
UH, BUT, UH, ALSO ADDRESSING THE HOME HOMELESS POPULATION BECAUSE I, I WOULD ALSO THINK THAT THE HOMELESS POPULATION WOULD BE ANOTHER GROUP THAT IS IDENTIFIABLE THAT WE CONTACT ON A REGULAR BASIS.
THAT WE NEED TO HAVE A, A, A DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE ON THEIR SITUATION WHERE THEY ARE IN LIFE.
UH, THEY TEND TO GROUP TOGETHER AND DEVELOP THEIR OWN STREET LEVEL CULTURE THAT WE NEED TO BE AWARE OF TOO, THAT DOESN'T NECESSARILY MAKE THEM CRIMINAL.
UH, THAT TIES DIRECTLY INTO, UH, MENTAL ILLNESS AS WELL.
UM, SO WE GET THAT, UH, THE ADDRESSING THE HOMELESS POPULATION, MANAGING HOMELESS POPULATIONS.
UM, WE ALSO HAVE THE INTERMEDIATE, UH, HUMAN TRAFFICKING COURSE, WHICH IS A, A A A PRETTY SUBSTANTIAL COURSE.
AND THAT MAKES YOU VERY AWARE OF DIVERSE CULTURES AS WELL.
UH, 'CAUSE I JUST TOOK THAT ONE NOT TOO LONG AGO,
UM, BUT, UH, ESPECIALLY WITH MIGRANT WORKERS FROM VARIOUS BACKGROUNDS, UH, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I NEVER CONSIDERED WITH THE INTERMEDIATE HUMAN TRAFFICKING WAS, UM, AND, AND, AND HERE WE BRING OUR, OUR BIASES TO, UH MM-HMM
I NEVER THOUGHT ABOUT MALES BEING VICTIMS OF HUMAN TRAFFICKING.
SO THOSE ARE THINGS THAT, UH, ENDED, IT OPENED UP MY, MY EYES.
NOW, WHAT I THINK THAT WE NEED TO CONTINUE DOING IS WE NEED TO BE LOOKING FOR PEOPLE THAT CAN GIVE US GOOD IN-CLASS TRAINING.
UH, SOMETHING THAT I HAVE BEEN REVIEWING, YOU CAN SEE IT'S A PRETTY THICK DOCUMENT, UH, IS THIS IS FROM THE, THE COPS OFFICE WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE ON HOW TO SERVE DIVERSE COMMUNITIES.
AND THIS HAS SOME REALLY GOOD IDEAS, UH, HAS SOME RESOURCES.
UH, TYPICALLY YOU CAN GO THROUGH YOUR, UH, BUREAU OF JUSTICE ASSISTANCE, UH, ASSISTANCE, UH, OFFICE, UH, LOCAL OFFICE AND, UH, ARRANGE FOR TRAINING.
AND, AND A LOT OF TIMES THAT TRAINING IS ACTUALLY FREE.
SO THOSE ARE SOME THINGS THAT I WANT TO DISCUSS WITH, UH, NOW THAT WE'VE DONE SOME RESTRUCTURING IN THE DEPARTMENT.
AND, UH, ASSISTANT CHIEF HOLDEN IS OVER AT THE BUREAU THAT HAS THE TRAINING ACADEMY IN IT, IS HOW CAN WE BEGIN TO BRING PEOPLE IN TO HAVE THESE ONE-ON-ONES, UM, SO THAT WE'VE GOT NOT JUST THE DISCUSSION, BUT WE'VE GOT DOCUMENTED TRAINING ON IT AS WELL.
UH, IT'S GREAT TO HAVE DISCUSSIONS.
AND I THINK WE NEED TO CONTINUE TO DO THAT.
I THINK WE NEED TO CONTINUE TO GET OUT INTO THE NEIGHBORHOODS.
BUT I ALSO THINK THAT WHEN IT COMES FROM THE, UH, THE GOVERNANCE OF THE DEPARTMENT, IT BECOMES VERY SERIOUS AND IT BECOMES PART OF THE CULTURE AND THAT WE ARE GOING TO HOLD EACH OTHER TO THESE STANDARDS.
UM, SPEAKING OF, OF THAT RIGHT THERE, CHIEF IN, IN REGARD
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TO THIS, THIS SPECIFIC SUBJECT OF, OF DIVERSITY TRAINING AND ALL THAT, I KNOW THAT, THAT THE BAYTOWN POLICE DEPARTMENT HAS, HAS ACHIEVED FOR SEVERAL YEARS.I THINK, IF I REMEMBER RIGHT, I TRIED TO PULL IT UP.
BUT I WANNA SAY SINCE 2012, THERE'S BEEN A, A RECOGNITION FOR THE BAYTOWN POLICE DEPARTMENT.
SO MY QUESTION TO THIS IS, IN REGARD TO DIVERSITY TRAINING, ARE WE SIMPLY MEETING, OR ARE WE EXCEEDING WHAT IS STATE STANDARDS AND OR ARE WE MEETING OR EXCEEDING WHAT IS THE, UH, THE, THE NORM FOR THIS RECOGNITION? BECAUSE IF IT'S, IF WE'RE JUST MEETING, I MEAN, I'M THANKFUL THAT WE'RE, WE'RE AT LEAST MEETING THE STATE REGULATION.
AND IF IT'S, YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S ANY KIND OF, I WOULD HOPE THAT WE ARE ALSO PURSUING ANY OTHER FBI RECOGNITION, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
BUT OUR, AND I THINK WE'RE, WE'RE, YEAH, I, I, I, I THINK WE'RE EXCEEDING IT, BUT TO, TO WHAT DEGREE AND, AND, AND TO WHAT END.
AND, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHERE I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO BE ABLE TO WORK WITH SOME OF OUR, OUR LOCAL EDUCATORS THAT ARE FROM DIVERSE BACKGROUNDS.
UM, AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I'D LIKE TO DO OVER THE NEXT YEAR AS WELL, IS REACH OUT TO SOME OF OUR, OUR, OUR PEOPLE, UH, THAT LIVE IN THE COMMUNITY THAT ARE FROM DIVERSE BACKGROUNDS THAT ARE MAYBE AT LEE COLLEGE THAT COULD HELP US, UH, WITH A CURRICULUM, UH, MAYBE GO OUT AND SPEND SOME TIME WITH POLICE OFFICERS SO THAT IT'S NOT ONE SIDED EITHER.
SO THAT PEOPLE UNDERSTAND WHAT POLICE OFFICERS ARE DOING, WHAT THEIR ROLE IS, WHAT OUR MISSION IS, WHAT WE'RE GENUINELY TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH.
UM, AND THAT, UH, THAT WE COULD INTEGRATE THAT INTO A TRUE CLASS THAT WOULD HELP THOSE OFFICERS UNDERSTAND IT.
NOT JUST FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF SOMEONE WHO IS, UM, UH, UH, FROM, FROM VIETNAM OR SOMEONE WHO IS FROM THE UKRAINE, BUT AS A POLICE OFFICER, HOW DO I INCORPORATE THIS KNOWLEDGE INTO WHAT I DO? OKAY.
THAT SOUNDS, UH, I MEAN, GO AHEAD.
YOU LIST OF THE CLASSES, HOW MANY OF THESE ONLINE CLASSES DOES EACH OFFICER HAVE TO TAKE EACH YEAR? I'D HAVE TO LOOK TO TELL YOU FOR SURE.
LIKE HOW OFTEN, BUT YEAH, YEAH, YEAH.
'CAUSE I WENT BACK AND I LOOKED THROUGH, UH, I WENT BACK AND I LOOKED THROUGH SOME TRAINING STUFF THAT, UH, I BELIEVE IT'S PROBABLY GONNA BE, THESE ARE ALL LIEUTENANT EVERY TWO YEARS.
IT'S THE TWO YEAR TRAINING CYCLE.
DO YOU HAVE TO DO ALL OF THEM EVERY TWO YEARS? WITHIN TWO YEARS? THE ONES THAT, NOT ALL OF THEM, BUT THERE ARE STATE CLOSE 40 HOURS CULTURAL DIVORCE REIMBURSEMENT REQUIRED.
YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN HERE FOR 25 YEARS AND I, I CAN TELL YOU THIS, THE, THE TRAINING PROGRAMS ACTUALLY IMPROVED.
'CAUSE BACK WHEN WE STARTED, I MEAN, YOU GOT 40 HOURS, YOU GOTTA DO IT IN EVERY TWO YEARS.
AND A LOT OF GUYS DIDN'T DO IT.
NOW WE GOT BLOCK TRAINING WHERE YOU'RE REQUIRED TO GO TO BLOCK TRAINING FOR A WHOLE WEEK OF TRAINING TO GET THOSE IS THAT LIVE TRAINING? YES.
THAT'S, THAT'S, UH, AT, AT THE ACADEMY, LIKE AT INSERVICE.
BUT WE'VE IMPROVED WITH THESE ONLINE CLASSES.
IF WE GET THIS ONLINE CLASSES, UH, CONSTANTLY.
SO THROUGH THE WHOLE YEAR, WE'RE ALSO GETTING THESE ONLINE CLASSES, AND THEY'RE NOT THESE LITTLE CLICK AND GOING TO THE NEXT ONE,
YOU ACTUALLY, IT TELLS YOU YOU CAN'T MOVE TILL YOU ACTUALLY READ AND, AND, UH, ANSWER THAT QUESTION RIGHT THERE AND THEN.
SO SOME OF, SOME OF THIS CAN BE INTENSE.
AND NOT ONLY THAT, BUT, UH, AND THIS WOULD, UH, THIS WOULD, UH, IS, IS SOMETHING I COULD ASK THE TRAINING ACADEMY TO TELL ME, BUT ON A REGULAR BASIS, I'M SIGNING, UH, APPROVALS AND REVIEWING REQUESTS FOR CLASSES FROM ACROSS THE DEPARTMENT.
AND THOSE ARE NOT ONLINE CLASSES ARE TAKEN.
THOSE ONLINE CLASSES THESE OFFICERS CAN TAKE WITH THEIR OWN INITIATIVE IN ADDITION TO THE ONES THAT ARE ASSIGNED THROUGH THE TRAINING ACADEMY.
HOWEVER, WE GET, UH, A REQUEST ON A REGULAR BASIS FROM ACROSS THE DEPARTMENT FOR OFFICERS TO, EXCUSE ME, TO, TO GO TAKE CLASSES OFFSITE THAT ARE BEING OFFERED BY OTHER AGENCIES, OTHER INSTITUTIONS, UH, UH, HUMAN MOST RECENTLY, UH, I THINK, UH, DETECTIVE DE UH, HUMAN TRAFFICKING CLASS.
UH, THE HUMAN TRAFFICKING CLASS.
UM, SO THOSE ARE THINGS THAT WE ARE CONSTANTLY DOING.
WHEN I COME IN, IN THE MORNINGS, I TYPICALLY HAVE A STACK ABOUT LIKE THAT IN MY MAILBOX OF REQUESTED TRAINING THAT OUR OFFICERS ARE ASKING FOR.
AND AS LONG AS WE'VE GOT THE MONEY AND IT'S PERTINENT, AND IT WILL BENEFIT US, AND IT WILL HELP US WITH OUR MISSION TO SERVE AND PROTECT AND BUILD THOSE RELATIONSHIPS IN THE COMMUNITY, WE'RE GONNA GIVE IT TO 'EM.
AND SOME OF THOSE CLASSES ARE REQUIRED EVEN TO GET YOUR, TO GET YOUR CERTIFICATE.
LIKE CULTURAL DIVERSITY, SPANISH LAW ENFORCEMENT.
IS THAT TIED TO MONEY? EXCUSE ME, THE CERTIFICATES? ARE THEY TIED TO LIKE A STIPEND? YOU GET A LITTLE, LITTLE RAISE.
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I'LL GIVE YOU A REAL GOOD EXAMPLE THAT, UM, THE, UH, MATTER OF FACT, DETECTIVE SOTO AND, UM, OFFICER, UH, UH, HELP ME TEACH THE, UH, SPANISH CLASS FOR US.UM, UH, I KNOW EVA LIFT, SHE, DID SHE TEACH OMAR? OMAR? YES.
UM, WHAT WE GOT WAS NOT SIMPLY COMMAND SPANISH FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT.
UM, WE HAD CLASSES ABOUT CULTURE.
UM, AND, UH, YOU KNOW, LIKE ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THEY BROUGHT UP, WHICH WAS, WHICH WAS HUMOROUS TO ME, WAS, UH, YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY SAY, YOU KNOW, SO BASICALLY TRANSLATED, I WAS CALLED FAT KID GROWING UP, AND THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT HOW, YOU KNOW, THEIR FAMILIES WERE ALL REAL HARD ON 'EM.
THEY, THEY, THEY'D FIND THE, THE CHARACTERISTIC THAT WAS MOST, UH, UH, THAT THEY WERE MOST INSECURE ABOUT.
AND THAT WAS GONNA BE YOUR NICKNAME IF YOU WERE BALD, YOU KNOW, THAT'S, THAT WAS GONNA BE YOUR NICKNAME.
UM, BUT, YOU KNOW, THERE WERE THINGS LIKE THAT THAT, UH, LITTLE NUANCES, YOU KNOW, THAT I LEARNED.
UH, BUT THEY TALKED A LOT ABOUT THE HISPANIC CULTURE, AND IT WAS MORE THAN JUST, YOU KNOW, THESE ARE YOUR COMMANDS, MONTEA, EVA, AND, YOU KNOW, THAT SORT OF THING.
IT WAS WHEN YOU, YOU KNOW, HOW DO I ASK SOMEBODY TO COME OVER WITH A HAND GESTURE? YOU KNOW, I, I, I'M, I'M NOT GONNA DO LIKE THIS BECAUSE THAT'S HOW WE CALL DOGS.
UM, SO THOSE WERE THINGS THAT I, I THOUGHT WERE, WERE SIMPLE, BUT MAYBE THAT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN MAKING A CONNECTION WITH SOMEONE, ESPECIALLY IF I'M MAKING THE EFFORT.
AND I ALSO LEARNED THAT THAT WAS INCREDIBLY BIG.
AND, AND I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY TRUE IN ALL, UH, CULTURES.
I MAY BUTCHER THE LANGUAGE AS I'M LEARNING IT.
AND I'M GOING TO, AND I KNOW THAT.
UM, BUT IF I'M MAKING THAT EFFORT NOW I CAN START MAKING THAT CONNECTION.
AND, UH, YOU KNOW, SO, YOU KNOW, THOSE ARE THINGS THAT WE'RE LEARNING NOT JUST IN THE SPANISH, BUT WE'RE LEARNING A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE CULTURE AS WELL.
SO WHAT CAN CHIEF, WHAT CAN, WHAT CAN THIS COMMITTEE HELP FACILITATE THAT WOULD MOVE BAYTOWN POLICE DEPARTMENT IF YOU HAD, LET'S SAY ONE ITEM MM-HMM
THAT WAS OF MOST IMPORTANCE, WHAT CAN THE BAYTOWN POLICE ADVISORY ASSIST IN PULLING TOGETHER INFORMATION, NUMBERS, WHAT, WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE? HOW CAN WE, HOW CAN WE COMMUNICATE WITH THE CITY COUNCIL AND THE MAYOR TO BE ABLE TO HELP US MOVE FORWARD TO TOWARDS A, A A, A BETTER DIVERSITY UNDERSTANDING FOR THE BAYTOWN POLICE DEPARTMENT? IF WE COULD JUST CONTINUE TO MAKE CONTACT WITH OUR, NOT JUST OUR CITIZENS THAT'S CERTAINLY WANT TO DO THAT, BUT OUR EDUCATORS IN THE COMMUNITY, THEY COULD HELP US DEVELOP OUR OWN CURRICULUM.
I THINK THAT'S A WONDERFUL IDEA.
'CAUSE THERE'S NO REASON THAT WE CAN'T TAKE A CLASS AND HAVE ONE OF OUR T COLE CERTIFIED INSTRUCTORS WORK ON THAT AND PRESENT IT TO T COLE AND ASK FOR THIS CLASS TO BE INCLUDED FOR T COLE CREDIT, ESPECIALLY IF WE'RE MOVING TOWARDS ESTABLISHING OUR OWN, UH, BAYTOWN POLICE DEPARTMENT.
SO, YOU KNOW, THAT'S SOMETHING I THINK WE COULD LOOK AT.
UM, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE COULD ALSO PARTNER WITH, SAY HARRIS COUNTY OR MM-HMM
HOUSTON POLICE DEPARTMENT, DUE TO THE FACT OF THE, THE GEOGRAPHICAL LOCATION THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WE COULD PARTNER WITH, JUST LIKE WE HAVE WITH THE CORE PROGRAM.
AS A MATTER OF FACT, UH, UH, ONE OF THE, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WANTED TO DO WAS BEGIN A REGIONAL, UH, FOR WESTERN, UH, CHAMBERS COUNTY IN EASTERN HARRIS COUNTY WAS, UH, AN INTELLIGENT SHARING GROUP.
AND, UH, APPARENTLY IT'S BEEN TALKED ABOUT FOR SEVERAL YEARS.
NOBODY'S EVER DONE ANYTHING WITH IT.
UM, I MET WITH, UH, SHERIFF GONZALEZ A FEW WEEKS AGO.
UH, WE HAD OUR INAUGURAL MEETING MONDAY, AND WE HAD 61 PARTICIPANTS, AND THAT INCLUDED LOCAL COUNTY.
WELL, HOLD THAT THOUGHT, BECAUSE NOW WE'RE JUMPING INTO ANOTHER BUCKET.
WELL, I'M GOING, BUT I'M GOING, I'M GOING SOMEWHERE WITH THIS.
SO MY POINT IS, WE'RE DEVELOPING THOSE RELATIONSHIPS OUTSIDE THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
SO THAT'S ONE MORE THING THAT WE CAN SAY, HEY, CAN WE GET TOGETHER ON THIS WITH TRAINING AND COMBINE OUR RESOURCES? OKAY.
AND YEAH, I THINK WE ABSOLUTELY COULD.
I THINK, CAN I ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? ABSOLUTELY.
UM, I THINK THE, THE REASON WHY I'M IMPRESSING ON THIS IS, LIKE I HAD SAID BEFORE, UM, WHEN I WAS SPEAKING OUT OF TURN, BUT I AM, UM, THAT IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO BE AB TO BE TO BE TRANSPARENT.
UH, AND SO I THINK US ASKING THESE QUESTIONS IN TERMS OF TRAINING AND DEVELOPMENT, UH, TO SHA TO, TO CHANGE, TO CHANGE THE, THE PERSPECTIVE OF POLICE OFFICERS IN BAYTOWN, I MEAN, THAT'S SUPER IMPORTANT.
I THINK THAT'S A PART OF OUR CHARGE, IS TO, TO SHOW THE COLLABORATION AND SEE HOW WE CAN, UM, WORK TOGETHER.
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AND SO, I'M GONNA ASK THESE QUESTIONS BECAUSE I WANNA MAKE SURE ONE, IT'S RECORDED AND PEOPLE CAN HEAR THAT WE, WE, YOU ARE ALL, EVERYTHING YOU SAID, PEOPLE ARE GONNA BE ABLE TO HAVE ACCESS TO, TO UNDERSTAND THAT YOU ARE MOVING IN A DIFFERENT DIRECTION.UH, THE TRAINING DEVELOPMENT IS, IS DEFINITELY IMPORTANT.
AND ALSO THE ACCOUNTABILITY IS IMPORTANT, WHICH I HAVEN'T EVEN TALKED TO YOU ABOUT YET, BUT THAT'S COMING.
UM, BUT I THINK IF YOU WANT TO, TO, TO COME, WE HAVE A CHIEF EQUITY OFFICER NOW AT LEE COLLEGE.
AND IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU'RE INTERESTED IN LEARNING ABOUT, UM, WE ARE IN A MOVEMENT, UM, AND WHERE WE'RE DOING A LOT MORE WORK IN EQUITY, DIVERSITY, EQUITY, AND INCLUSION.
UH, AND THAT'S JUST NOT CULTURAL DIVERSITY.
YOU'RE ALSO TALKING ABOUT, UM, ALL DIFFERENT TYPES OF PEOPLE THAT COME THROUGH OUR, THROUGH OUR CAMPUS.
WELL, AND, AND YOU KNOW, AND I'LL GO ONE STEP FURTHER WITH THAT, IS THE, UH, YOU KNOW, I, I DON'T BELIEVE ANYBODY SHOULD BE MARGINALIZED REGARDLESS OF, OF WHO THEY ARE, UH, THE, THE L-G-B-T-Q COMMUNITY AS WELL.
UM, SO THOSE ARE THINGS THAT WE NEED TO BE CONSIDERING IN THE 21ST CENTURY, RIGHT? CORRECT.
SO THAT'S SOMETHING ELSE THAT OUR OFFICERS NEED TO BE EXPOSED TO, AND TO BE ABLE TO SET DOWN AND, AND HAVE A CLASS HOWEVER LONG THAT MAY BE, BUT TO EXPAND THEIR EXPERIENCE, TO ENLIGHTEN THEM ON THIS DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE MM-HMM
UH, AND UNDERSTAND THAT EVERYBODY'S A STAKEHOLDER IN OUR COMMUNITY.
AND NOT ONLY DO THEY HAVE TO BE HEARD, 'CAUSE THAT'S PART OF PROCEDURAL JUSTICE, RIGHT.
BUT YOU TOOK AN OATH TO PROTECT AND SERVE ALL PEOPLE MM-HMM
SO I, YOU KNOW, I, I THINK ABSOLUTELY.
UH, AND, YOU KNOW, AS WE START LOOKING AT TRAINING SCHEDULES, IT MAY BE THAT WE HAVE TO DO AN EVEN ODD YEAR MM-HMM
SYSTEM WHERE THIS YEAR WE'RE DOING THIS TYPE OF DIVERSITY TRAINING.
NEXT YEAR WE'RE DOING THIS TYPE OF DIVERSITY TRAINING MM-HMM
BUT IF WE'RE CONTINUING TO DO THIS, JUST LIKE AS WE PUSH OUR NEW MISSION STATEMENT ON THE TROOPS, AND, AND THEY CAN TELL YOU ANYTIME I GET AN EMAIL ON SOMETHING, I'M TYING IT INTO THE MISSION IS IT'S THERE.
IT'S CONSTANTLY, IT'S BEING LOADED MENTALLY THERE.
SO THEY'RE ALWAYS THINKING ABOUT IT.
WHETHER IT'S SEARCH SEIZURE, WHETHER IT'S INCLUSIVITY, UH, CULTURAL DIVERSITY, UM, OR, OR, OR WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE.
THOSE THINGS ARE IMPORTANT TO US AS A POLICE DEPARTMENT.
SO, I GUESS MOVING FORWARD SPECIFICALLY ABOUT THIS FOR NEXT MONTH AT, AT SOME POINT, ARE YOU GONNA LET US KNOW HOW WE CAN START MOVING IN THAT DIRECTION, IF THAT'S IN FACT THE WAY YOU WANT TO GO? BECAUSE I, I'M GONNA REACH OUT TO THE TRAINING ACADEMY AND SEE WHAT THEY NEED.
SO THEN NEXT MONTH YOU CAN TELL US EXACTLY WHERE THOSE HOLES ARE, AND IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT WE CAN DO IN TERMS OF MM-HMM
AND I DON'T KNOW IF IT'LL BE EXACT, BUT WE'LL HAVE AN IDEA WHERE WE CAN CONTINUE TO CONVERSATION.
AND THERE'S ONE MORE THING THAT I, SINCE WE'RE ON TRAINING ABSOLUTELY.
EDUCATION, ONE MORE THING THAT I'D LIKE TO THROW AT.
NOBODY ELSE HAS SEEN THIS HERE YET.
UM, BUT THIS IS SOMETHING I'VE BEEN WORKING ON AND I'M NOT QUITE FINISHED WITH IT OR, OR, OR, OR ALREADY.
BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, IS THE LEARNING CULTURE.
UH, AND I CALL IT A DOCTRINAL PUBLICATION FOR THE BAYTOWN POLICE DEPARTMENT.
JUST LIKE MILITARY ORGANIZATIONS HAVE DOCTRINE THAT ESTABLISHES HOW THEY OPERATE, WHAT THEY DO, WHAT THEIR BASIS IS.
BUT, UH, THE LEARNING CULTURE, WHICH STATES THAT, UH, THE BAYTOWN POLICE OFFICER IS A PROFESSIONAL POLICE AS A PROFESSIONAL PRACTITIONER, POLICE SERVICE, THE POLICE SERVICES.
BUT THERE IS A PROFESSIONAL EXPECTATION THAT THE BAYTOWN POLICE OFFICER AT ALL LEVELS ENGAGES IN CONTINUOUS LEARNING, WHETHER IT'S IN THE FORMAL ACADEMY SITUATION, UM, WHETHER IT IS, UH, UH, UH, SECONDARY LEARNING, WHETHER IT'S TRAINING, WHETHER IT'S IN SERVICE, THE BLOCK TRAINING THAT WE HAVE, WHETHER IT'S ONLINE TRAINING, WHETHER IT IS A, UH, POLICE SERGEANT THAT DEBRIEFS THE, THE SHIFT AFTER A CALL TO GET LESSONS LEARNED FROM A PARTICULAR TYPE OF INCIDENT THAT OCCURRED.
AND, UM, WE HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY AS SUPERVISORS TO BE TEACHERS, TO BE MENTORS IN THE APPROPRIATE DIRECTION ACCORDING TO THE VALUES AND THE MISSION OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I BELIEVE IS THAT A, A POLICE DEPARTMENT THAT HAS A, A, A CULTURE OF LEARNING WHERE YOU'RE CONSTANTLY ENGAGED IN LEARNING, YOU BECOME A LITTLE MORE OPEN-MINDED AND YOU CONSIDER THINGS, UH, DIFFERENTLY AND FROM A DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE.
I THINK WE'LL ALSO SEE, UH, A LOT OF THE, UH, AGENCIES THAT HAVE MANDATED, UH, HIGHER EDUCATION STANDARDS MM-HMM
UH, THEY MAY BE IN AREAS OF OUR COUNTRY, REGIONS OF OUR COUNTRY THAT ACTUALLY HAVE EXTREMELY HIGH VIOLENT CRIME, BUT THEIR USE OF FORCE TENDS TO BE LOWER.
UM, YOU KNOW, I'VE HAD ANECDOTAL CONVERSATIONS WITH SUPERVISORS FROM THOSE AREAS.
SO THOSE ARE THINGS THAT, UH, THAT I WANT TO CONTINUE TO LOOK AT.
BUT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT, UH, THAT I'D LIKE TO DO IN THE FUTURE WITH OUR DEPARTMENT AND GET, UH, GET EVERYBODY INVOLVED IN IT TO BE ABLE TO PUSH THESE THINGS OUT
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ONCE A YEAR OR EVERY TWO YEARS.UH, THIS IS HOW WE APPROACH THIS PARTICULAR TYPE OF THING, WHETHER IT'S LEARNING, WHETHER IT'S, UH, CULTURAL DIVERSITY, BUT THESE ARE OUR TENANTS AS A POLICE DEPARTMENT AND OUR PILLAR, SO TO SPEAK.
GO AHEAD, MS. DHANI, WOULD THAT BE, WOULD THAT BE HELPFUL IF WE WERE TO REVIEW IT OR OVERVIEW IT AND GIVE YOU OUR OPINIONS ON IT AND MAKE IT POSSIBLY SOMETHING THAT THIS COMMITTEE COULD RECOMMEND? UH, YEAH.
I, WOULD THAT HELP YOU AT ALL? YEAH.
I, I THINK I'D BE OPEN TO THAT.
I MEAN, I DON'T SEE WHY THERE'D BE ANY ISSUE WITH THAT.
SO, I MEAN, IT WOULDN'T BE OFFIC, IT'S NOT OFFICIAL 'CAUSE IT'S, YOU, YOU KNOW.
I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU MAKE IT OFFICIAL OTHER THAN YOU SAYING, THIS IS FOR ME, IF THE COMMAND STAFF COMES OUT AND SAYS, WE'RE DOING THIS, GUYS, WHETHER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT.
I MEAN, IF YOU, IF YOU WANT US TO LOOK IT OVER AND GIVE YOU EDITS OR RECOMMENDATIONS, AND THEN YOU COULD LOOK THAT, AND THEN YOU COULD SAY, THIS IS FROM THE POLICE ADVISORY COMMITTEE AND, AND YOU WOULDN'T TAKE ALL THE HEAT.
YOU COULD SAY IT CAME FROM A COMMITTEE OR ADVISORY COMMITTEE.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S SOMETHING YOU'RE OPEN TO OR NOT, BUT YEAH, I'M, I'M PRETTY OPEN TO ANYTHING THAT'LL MAKE OUR OFFICERS BETTER, MORE WILLING.
OTHER THAN HAVING BETTER SUPPORT EDICTS FROM GOD, YOU KNOW, YOU COULD SAY IT'S BEEN OVERLOOKED, LOOKED OVER BY A COMMITTEE.
I, I, AND SEE THAT IS PART OF PROCEDURAL JUSTICE, IS THAT NOT ONLY DO OUR CITIZENS GET INPUT, BUT THE OFFICERS GET INPUT TOO, EVEN IN THEIR DISCIPLINE.
THEY MAY NOT, IT'S NOT GOING, IT MAY NOT CHANGE THE OUTCOME OF THE DISCIPLINE, BUT THEY'RE GIVEN AN OPPORTUNITY TO BE HEARD TOO.
UH, JUST LIKE WHEN IT'S SAFE, WE SHOULD BE GIVING OUR CITIZENS AN OPPORTUNITY TO BE HEARD, EVEN IF WE GOTTA TAKE THEM TO JAIL.
SO, SO GIVEN ALL OF THIS REGARDING THE DIVERSITY TRAINING AND THE, THE LEARNING CULTURE AS A WHOLE, OBVIOUSLY THAT, THAT DEFINITELY FALLS AS I SEE IT, IT'S FALLING UNDER OUR, UH, TRAINING AND DEVELOPMENT BUCKET OF CONCERN.
UM, SO FROM THE, THE COMMITTEE IS THERE, IS THERE ANYTHING THAT YOU WOULD, MIGHT WANT TO ADD TO OUR BUCKETS OF CONCERN THAT COULD BE OUR FOCUS OR, UM, DO WE WANT TO EXPAND THIS TO, TO STRICTLY BE A, UM, IT'S OWN BUCKET? OR HOW, HOW DO, HOW, WHAT'S YOUR PLEASURE ON, ON HOW WE PROCEED TO MAKE THIS, UH, UH, MORE OF A ACTIONABLE ITEM OF THIS COMMITTEE?
UM, POSSIBLY A REPORT OF WHAT PERCENTAGE OF OFFICERS ARE TAKING THEIR 40 HOURS COMPARED TO 60 HOURS COMPARED TO 80 HOURS.
IT'D BE INTERESTING TO KNOW, YOU KNOW, WHAT PERCENTAGE OF OFFICERS ARE ACTUALLY GETTING THE BARE MINIMUM IN COMPARED TO TAKING EXTRA TRAINING AND HOW THAT ADVANCES THEIR CAREER WITH THE DEPARTMENT.
I MEAN, I'M JUST TRYING TO FIND A WAY TO MEASURE THIS.
AND SO IF YOU'RE ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW, 'CAUSE TO KEEP OUR LICENSES, WE HAVE TO TAKE SO MANY HOURS AND DOCUMENT IT WITH OUR STATE BOARDS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO, UM, OBVIOUSLY HE SAID 40 HOURS IS MINIMUM.
THAT'S GONNA BE KIND OF LOPSIDED.
'CAUSE THERE'S SOME OFFICERS ASSIGNED TO SPECIAL UNITS RIGHT.
THAT GO TO TWO, TWO WEEKS, TWO WEEK, UH, COURSES.
SO THAT'S WHY I'M SAYING IS, WELL, YOU MAY NOT BE ABLE TO YES.
LIKE ME, LIKE EVERY YEAR, I GOTTA DO LIKE 40 HOUR TRAINING, UH, EVERY YEAR JUST, JUST FOR BEING A DARE OFFICER.
I'M GOING TO CONSTANT TRAINING.
WHEREAS A PATROL GUY WON'T GET NEARLY THE HOURS THAT I, THAT I GET.
BUT WE'D LOVE TO HAVE THEM ENCOURAGED TO GET MORE HOURS.
AND, AND, AND WE WOULD ABSOLUTELY EXPECT, AND WE WOULD BE REMISS AS AN AGENCY AND AS A COMMAND STAFF IF WE DID NOT REQUIRE THOSE OFFICERS ASSIGNED TO SPECIAL DUTIES TO HAVE TRAINING AND EDUCATION THAT'S ABOVE AND BEYOND.
AND THAT'S SOMETHING ELSE THAT I THINK WE NEED TO DO A BETTER JOB OF IN LAW ENFORCEMENT IN GENERAL IN THE POLICE SERVICES, IS DIFFERENTIATING BETWEEN TRAINING AND EDUCATION.
UH, BOTH ARE GEARED TOWARDS THE SAME GOAL, WHICH IS LEARNING.
BUT, UH, THAT EDUCATION GIVES US THE ABILITY TO MAKE DECISIONS IN REAL TIME BASED ON THE TRAINING WHEN VARIABLES ARE THROWN AT US BECAUSE WE HAVE THIS DEPTH OF KNOWLEDGE, AND WE'RE NOT JUST ROBOTS ACTING ACCORDING TO ROPE TRAINING, WHICH IS WHY IT'S SO IMPORTANT FOR THE DARE OFFICER TO CONTINUE TO GO TO THAT TYPE OF TRAINING, THAT 40 HOURS OR EVEN MORE IF WE CAN SEND THEM.
I THINK, I THINK FOR THAT REASON, THEY SHOULD BE A SEPARATE BUCKET.
I LIKE YOUR APPROACH TO IT, WHICH CAN CHANGE SOME SYSTEMIC ISSUES THAT HAVE HAPPENED IN THE PAST.
AND SO WHEN WE LOOK UNDER THAT BUCKET, YOU SEE THESE, THESE QUESTIONS THAT HAVE COME UP AND THESE CAME UP IN THE BEGINNING MM-HMM
AND I FEEL LIKE BASED ON THE, THE DOCTRINE THAT YOU'RE CREATING, SO TO SPEAK MM-HMM
I THINK THAT YOU COULD PROBABLY ANSWER MANY OF THESE QUESTIONS FOR US.
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YOUR IDEA OF US LOOKING OVER IT AS A PIECE OF THAT, UM, THAT PUZZLE IN TERMS OF MAKING SURE THAT WE ARE, WE'RE THERE WITH YOU TO SUPPORT IT.UM, I, MY ONLY OTHER QUESTION UNDER THAT IS, IS THE TRAINING TIED TO ANNUAL EVALUATION? UM, I WAS TOLD PREVIOUSLY THAT IT IS NOT AT THIS, AT THIS TIME.
AND THAT'S WHAT I WANNA HEAR AT THIS TIME BECAUSE, AND, UM, THAT WAS, THAT BAFFLED ME BECAUSE I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND HOW OFFICERS WERE BEING TRAINED OR EVALUATED.
UM, BECAUSE I KNOW, I DON'T KNOW ABOUT YOUR, WELL, I DON'T KNOW ABOUT ANYBODY.
WELL, Y'ALL ARE SELF-EMPLOYED.
SO I THINK ALL OF Y'ALL ARE SELF-EMPLOYED.
SO YOU HAVE TO GO THROUGH AN ANNUAL EVALUATION.
AND SO AT SOME POINT SOMEONE IS EVALUATING YOUR PRO PROGRESS ANNUALLY, IF NOT LY, BUT ISN'T, I THINK IF I REMEMBER CHIEF HOLDEN SPECIFYING THAT THERE'S ALMOST A DAILY EVALUATION OF, OF RESPONSE, WHICH IS DOCUMENTED.
SO THAT'S WHAT I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND.
I WAS JUST CHECKING THEM OUT THERE.
THERE IS, THERE'S ONGOING, UH, CONVERSATION AND CORRECTION WITH, UH, UH, A CHRONOLOGY REPORT THAT THEY KEEP ON, ON THE OFFICERS.
UM, WE ARE LOOKING AT SOME OTHER AREAS OF CAREER DEVELOPMENT THOUGH, WHERE WE CAN HAVE THESE CONVERSATIONS AND WORK WITH OUR OFFICERS TO SAY, OKAY, YES, YOU'VE MET THE MINIMUM STANDARDS.
WHAT ELSE CAN YOU DO BASED ON YOUR CAREER GOALS, YOUR OBJECTIVES, AND HOW CAN WE PARTNER WITH YOU TO MAKE YOU BETTER OR HELP YOU BECOME BETTER? YEAH.
BECAUSE THAT'S REALLY WHAT, THAT'S REALLY WHAT, IF YOU WANNA CALL IT CAREER DEVELOPMENT EVALUATIONS, YOU, YOU COULD TITLE IT WHATEVER YOU WANT.
THE QUESTION IS, AS A SUPERVISOR, AS A LEADER, AM I HAVING A CONVERSATION WITH YOU THAT'S HELPING YOU BECOME BETTER? AND IS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT WANTING TO DO IN THE FUTURE? YES.
THAT WOULD BE A PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT
SO, DR. MORENO, IF I'M HEARING YOU CORRECTLY, YOU, YOU ARE SAYING WE SHOULD PUT THIS AS ITS OWN BUCKET AS FAR AS DIVERSITY OR, OR JUST WITHIN THE TRAINING AND DEVELOPMENT.
WHAT IS YOUR RECOMMENDATION ON THAT? THAT WE, WELL, HE MENTIONED A LOT OF THE DIFFERENT TYPES OF, UM, LIKE THE HUMAN TRAFFICKING, WHICH IS PHENOMENAL, ESPECIALLY SINCE WE'RE SO, SO THAT JUST KIND OF, THAT JUST KIND OF EXPANDS THE TRAINING AND DEVELOPMENT.
BUT IF, IF HE'S CREATING, IF YOU'RE CREATING A DOCTRINE, SO TO SPEAK, I THINK YOU USED THE WORD DOCTRINE, BUT THEN I GOT CONFUSED BY THE MILITARIZATION WORD.
BUT, UM, IF YOU'RE CREATING A DOCTRINE, UM, THEN IT'S GONNA ENCOMPASS ALL OF THAT.
CORRECT? WELL, ABSOLUTELY, BECAUSE TRAINING HAS TO BE HOLISTIC.
BECAUSE IT'S MORE THAN CULTURAL DIVERSITY.
IT'S MORE THAN HUMAN TRAFFICKING.
SOME OF IT IS, ESPECIALLY FOR GUYS LIKE ME, UH, I DON'T KNOW ABOUT LIEUTENANT, BUT YOU KNOW, WHEN'S THE LAST TIME YOU PUT HANDCUFFS ON SOMEBODY? RIGHT.
UH, YOU GOTTA BE ABLE TO PUT HANDCUFFS ON SOMEBODY SAFELY SO THAT YOU DON'T, UH, DAMAGE CONNECTIVE TISSUE.
FUNDAMENTAL TRAINING IS IMPORTANT AS WELL.
UH, FIREARMS TRAINING IS IMPORTANT.
UM, DEESCALATION IS IMPORTANT.
DRIVING, UH, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT DOES.
AND I USE THE ALL INCLUSIVE GUYS.
UH, OUR OFFICERS DO DAILY, 12 HOURS A DAY MINIMUM.
AND YOU LOOK AT OUR INFRASTRUCTURE VERSUS OUR TRAFFIC VOLUME, AND I'M REALLY IMPRESSED THAT WE DON'T HAVE ANY MORE COLLISIONS ON DUTY THAN WE DO.
AND THE ONES THAT WE DO THAT THEY HAVE NOT BEEN INCREDIBLY SERIOUS.
SO IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO KEEP THAT UP AS WELL.
AND, UH, I THINK THAT REDUCES LIABILITY.
UH, AND EVENTUALLY IN THE FUTURE, I WOULD LOVE TO SEE US HAVE A, A LARGER TRAINING CAMPUS WHERE WE COULD HAVE A, A, A DRIVING TRACK THAT OUR OFFICERS HAD ACCESS TO ON A MORE REGULAR BASIS, WHERE THEY DIDN'T HAVE TO GO TO HUMBLE OR HUMBLE OR, UH, PASADENA AS WELL.
SO WE HAVE TO SEND THEM OFF TO BE ABLE TO GIVE THEM THIS KIND OF STUFF.
BUT WHEN YOU CONSIDER IT, THEY'RE DRIVING EVERY SINGLE DAY.
AND IN SOME CASES, HIGH STRESS.
SO THOSE ARE ALL THE THINGS THAT WE NEED TO CONSIDER WITH TRAINING AND DEVELOPMENT.
SO I THINK, TO YOUR POINT, TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, YES, I THINK IT SHOULD BE ITS OWN SEPARATE BUCKET, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, I THINK THAT WE, I'M ASKING FOR HIM TO TELL ME HOW HE'S GOING TO, UM, WELL, THAT'S NEXT.
THAT IS TO, UM, HOW YOU'RE GOING TO BEEF UP, SO TO SPEAK, THE CULTURAL DIVERSITY TRAINING THAT YOU HAVE.
AND, AND YOU HAD SAID THAT YOU WERE GONNA REACH OUT TO OTHER PEOPLE TO SEE WHAT THEY HAVE.
IT WOULD BE GREAT TO BE ABLE TO SEE WHAT OTHER PEOPLE ARE OFFERING AND HOW YOU'RE GONNA INSERT IT INTO, I'D LOVE YOU GUYS TO HELP US FROM LEE COLLEGE TOO.
UH, LIKE I SAID, THERE'S, THERE'S A LOT OF GOOD STUFF TO D OJ OFFERS, AND IF IT'S COMING FROM THE DOJ, IT'S BEEN VETTED, SO
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THAT'S GOOD.I LIKE DOING OUR OWN THING TOO.
UH, THAT'S, I MEAN, I THINK IT'S GREAT TO CREATE YOUR OWN CURRICULUM.
I MEAN, 'CAUSE WHO KNOWS THE, THE COMMUNITY THAN THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN THE COMMUNITY.
UM, ANY OTHER COMMENTS ON THE DIVERSITY SUBJECT HERE FROM THE DIOCESE? YEAH, JUST CONTINUE EVERY MEETING.
SO NEXT WEEK, YOU'LL, NEXT MONTH, NOT WITH NEXT WEEK.
UH, SO NEXT MONTH YOU'LL, YOU'LL GIVE US INFORMATION AND THEN FROM THERE WE'LL BE ABLE TO DETERMINE HOW WE CAN, AS A COMMUNITY HELP YOU, HOW WE CAN GET INVOLVED WITH IT.
AND, AND OUR CITY PERSON CAN POSSIBLY DISTRIBUTE YOUR ROUGH DRAFT OF YOUR YEAH, I'M, I'M NOT READY FOR THAT YET.
NO, WE'LL COVER YOU IN THE SUMMER FOR THAT.
ARE THERE ANY OTHER, IN ADDITION, UH, SEPARATE FROM THE DIVERSITY, ARE THERE ANY OTHER, UH, SUBJECT MATTERS ITEMS THAT WE MAY NEED TO LOOK AT ON THE BUCKETS OF CONCERN IN ORDER FOR US TO START HAVING ACTIONABLE ITEMS MOVING FORWARD? UM, ARE WE STILL UNDER TRAINING AND DEVELOPMENT A OR ARE WE IN B WE ARE, WE ARE STILL UNDER, UH, FOUR A.
WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'VE, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THE DIVERSITY.
UM, ARE THERE, WHICH IS UNDER TRAINING.
ARE THERE ANY OTHER ITEMS? WELL, I THINK IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT TO, TO GO BACK TO WHAT YOU SAID ABOUT DEVELOPMENT AND HOW YOU'RE, HOW YOU CAN GROW YOUR MM-HMM
FROM THE LEADERSHIP PERSPECTIVE.
AND SO IS THAT GONNA BE A PART OF THIS DOCTRINE AS WELL, IN TERMS OF THE, THE TRAINING? THAT'LL BE SOMETHING DIFFERENT.
THEN I WOULD BE INTERESTED IN LOOKING AT THAT.
NOW, WHETHER OR NOT THAT NEEDS TO BE A SEPARATE BUCKET, I DON'T KNOW.
UM, I, I, I, I THINK WHERE YOU HAVE IT, I MEAN, IF YOU WANT MY OPINION ON IT, IT'S, I UNDERSTAND THAT IT'S YOUR DECISION, BUT I THINK WHERE YOU HAVE IT IS IN THE APPROPRIATE PLACE.
SO THEN WE CAN HAVE THOSE TWO.
BECAUSE I, I DEFINITELY WANNA LOOK AT THE DEVELOPMENT AND THE EVALUATION PROCESS.
ANY OTHER ITEMS TO LOOK AT UNDER THIS, THIS BUSINESS ITEM FOUR A.
SO THEN WE NEED TO, WE DID THE MENTAL ILLNESS.
WE, WE WHAT ABOUT THE POSITIVE ENGAGEMENT? OH, YES.
AN UPDATE ON YOUR, UM, WE'RE ABOUT TO DO THAT ON FOUR B.
SO THEN ON THE, ON THE POSITIVE ENGAGEMENT, I KNOW WE HAD TALKED ABOUT DATA AT SOME POINT, AND WE WERE ASKING DIFFERENT QUESTIONS ABOUT DATA.
UM, DO YOU REMEMBER JUNE, WHAT WE HAD ASKED ABOUT THE DATA? WE'D ASKED FOR MAYBE A BREAKDOWN OF, UM, PEOPLE THAT ARE ARRESTED.
UM, BUT, YOU KNOW, IF THE CERTAIN POLICE OFFICERS ARE ARRESTING A HIGHER PERCENTAGE OF HISPANICS OR ASIANS OR BLACKS OR, YOU KNOW, KIND OF A, A BREAKDOWN OF IF THERE'S SOMETHING.
AND, AND IF YOU REMEMBER, MY RESPONSE TO THAT WAS OUR OFFICERS ARE ASSIGNED TO REGULAR ZONES MM-HMM
SO IF YOU PUT AN OFFICER AND YOU WANT THEM TO ENGAGE THE COMMUNITY MM-HMM
AND YOU WANT THEM TO OWN THAT ZONE AND TAKE OWNERSHIP FOR WHAT HAPPENS IN IT, AND THAT OFFICER WORKS, UH, A DISTRICT THAT, UH, IS, IS PRIMARILY HISPANIC, THEY'RE GONNA HAVE, THE NUMBERS ARE GONNA BE SKEWED.
IT'S GONNA BE A STATISTICAL SYLLOGISM, BECAUSE THAT'S GOING TO BE THE PEOPLE THAT THEY'RE POLICING, THAT'S GOING TO BE THE PEOPLE THAT ARE GOING TO JAIL.
SO I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT'S A PARTICULARLY FAIR REPRESENTATION TO THOSE OFFICERS.
SO, SO THEN I GUESS MY DATA QUESTION WOULD BE, UM, THE PERCENTAGE, LIKE WE DO WITH THE COLLEGE, WE LOOK AT THE PERCENTAGE OF FACULTY IN COMPARISON TO OUR STUDENT POPULATION MM-HMM
SO WHAT IS THE PERCENTAGE OF, UH, BY DEMOGRAPHIC OR BY HISPANIC AFRICAN AMERICAN? YOU KNOW, LIKE WHAT IS YOUR PERCENTAGE OF POLICE OFFICERS, THE, THE DEMOGRAPHIC REPRESENTATION OF THE DEPARTMENT TO THE COMMUNITY? CORRECT.
UM, YOU KNOW, I'LL HAVE TO LOOK AT THAT TO, TO BE ABLE TO TELL YOU.
I THINK THAT WOULD BE, I THINK THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING OF INTEREST, BECAUSE ESPECIALLY CONSIDERING THE, THE IMPORTANCE OF RECRUITMENT MM-HMM
THAT WAS, THAT WAS MY QUESTION.
AND HOW ARE YOU RECRUITING? AND BECAUSE IF WE, IF, IF WE, NOT, OBVIOUSLY WE WANT TO HIRE THE BEST QUALIFIED INDIVIDUALS MM-HMM
BUT AT THE SAME TIME, I THINK THAT WHAT DR.
STANSKI AND DR. MORENO IS THERE, THE, THE POINT TO THAT IS WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THE, THE RATIO IS NOT SO SKEWED MM-HMM
THAT IT MAY INFRINGE ON LIBERTIES OR WHATEVER THE, I DON'T KNOW.
WE DON'T WANT TO, WE, WE, WE DON'T WANT ADVERSE IMPACT EITHER.
ADVERSE IMPACT AND, AND HIRING.
SO, UH, I, I'LL JUMP INTO THE RECRUITMENT THING.
UH, WE'RE CONTINUING TO DEVELOP PROFESSIONAL RECRUITMENT TEAM.
UH, I HAVE ASKED FOR MORE MONEY IN THE BUDGET THIS YEAR, UH, FOR RECRUITING, WHEREAS BEFORE IT WAS, WAS MINIMAL.
UM, WE ARE PUSHING OUT AND EXPANDING, UH,
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OUR RECRUITMENT EFFORTS BEYOND OUR, OUR IMMEDIATE AREA.UH, IT'S INCLUDING, UH, PEOPLE WHO ARE GETTING OUT OF THE MILITARY, WHICH IS GOOD BECAUSE YOU SEE A VERY DIVERSE BACKGROUND, UH, THAT JOINS THE MILITARY FOR VARIOUS REASONS.
UM, IN MANY CASES, THEY WANNA GO INTO LAW ENFORCEMENT, BUT THEY'RE 18, 19 YEARS OLD.
SO THEY GO INTO THE MILITARY UNTIL THEY TURN 21, THEY ROTATE OUT.
AND NOW WE HAVE SOMEONE, UM, WHO, WHO HAS DEVELOPED SOME MATURITY AND SOME, SOME SELF-DISCIPLINE.
UM, SO WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE FOCUSING ON THAT.
BUT WE'RE ALSO LOOKING AT, UH, I HAVE ASKED OUR RECRUITMENT TEAM TO LOOK AT NON-TRADITIONAL POLICE RECRUITING VENUES TO MAKE WE DO A BETTER JOB OF RECRUITING FEMALE APPLICANTS.
UM, ESPECIALLY BY, BY GOING TO, UH, UH, FEMALE, UH, COLLEGIATE, UH, ATHLETIC PROGRAMS AND TRYING TO DO SOME RECRUITMENT THERE.
SO, I MEAN, THAT'S JUST ONE INSTANCE.
AND, YOU KNOW, I WOULD ASK EVERYBODY TO REMEMBER TOO, AND, AND I KNOW YOU'RE ALL MUCH SMARTER THAN I AM.
UH, IT, IT, IT WON'T, IT OBVIOUSLY WON'T CHANGE OVERNIGHT.
BUT WHAT I WANNA MAKE SURE IS THAT WE HAVE A VISION, WE HAVE A GOAL, AND WE'RE ALL MOVING IN THAT DIRECTION, RIGHT.
UH, EVEN, EVEN WHEN IT GETS STALLED, WE UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS WHERE WE WANT TO BE, AND WE'VE GOTTA FIGURE OUT HOW TO GET OVER WHATEVER PARTICULAR OBSTACLE WE MIGHT HAVE.
SO THEN FOR THAT, THAT SPECIFIC BUCKET, THEN YOU'LL, YOU'LL ASK, UH, OR YOU'LL GET US THE DEMOGRAPHICS OF THE POLICE.
ANY, THIS WILL BE THE LAST, LAST TIME TO ASK EITHER ANY OTHER ON THE BUCKETS OF CONCERN THAT WE NEED TO CONSIDER, UH, GOING FORWARD.
[b. Receive a report and discuss the status of police outreach, community policing, officer training and policies and procedures.]
THEN LET'S MOVE ON TO BUSINESS, UH, ITEM FOUR B.AND IT'S GOING TO RECEIVE A REPORT AND DISCUSS THE STATUS OF POLICE OUTREACH, COMMUNITY POLICING, OFFICER TRAINING POLICIES AND PROCEDURES.
I THINK WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THE, UH, OFFICER TRAINING A LITTLE BIT, BUT I THINK WE'VE GOT A, A, A GOOD UPDATE REGARDING OUR HISPANIC OUTREACH.
SO CHIEF, GIVE US A, A GOOD REPORT ON, ON THIS AREA.
I'M GONNA DO THIS, SO WELL, YOU'LL NEVER SEE MY LIPS MOVE.
UH, THIS IS LIEUTENANT RENEE HINOJOSA.
HE IS, UH, A FAIRLY RECENT PROMOTION TO LIEUTENANT JANUARY.
AND, UH, HE IS DOING ONE, A FANTASTIC JOB.
UM, AND I'D LIKE TO SHARE SOMETHING WITH YOU WITH, WITH THE PROMOTIONS.
UH, WE STARTED DOING SOMETHING THAT I DON'T THINK HAD BEEN DONE IN THE PAST.
WHEN YOU GUYS ARE PROMOTED NOW, YOU ACTUALLY GET A CHARGING DOCUMENT FROM ME ON WHAT YOUR EXPECTATIONS ARE WITH LEADERSHIP AND SETTING THE EXAMPLE.
UM, SO, UH, HE'S DOING A, A, A FANTASTIC JOB OF THAT.
HE HAS OWNED THE MISSION AS IF HE WROTE IT HIMSELF, AND HE IS, AND A FORMER BAC.
I WAS IN THE PROCESS WHEN I WAS ON THE BOARD.
WELL, YOU WERE QUIET, SO WE DIDN'T KNOW.
WELL, GIVE US THE GOOD NEWS, LIEUTENANT.
WELL, UM, WE'RE REALLY TRYING TO WORK TOWARDS BRIDGING THAT GAP BETWEEN OUR HISPANIC COMMUNITY AND, AND THE BAYTOWN POLICE DEPARTMENT.
YOU KNOW, IF NOTHING ELSE, TO HAVE A, A CONVERSATION.
UM, AND OF COURSE, WE'VE REACHED OUT TO OTHER POLICE DEPARTMENTS AND SEEING WHAT THEY'RE DOING.
AND, UM, AND WE FOUND WHERE PLANO POLICE DEPARTMENT AND MANY OTHER POLICE DEPARTMENTS HAVE A PROGRAM CALLED UNIDOS UNIDOS.
AND, UH, WE'RE GOING TO, UH, BORROW, UH, WITH THEIR PERMISSION, THEIR PROGRAM.
AND I LIKE TO READ SOMETHING FROM THE REFERENCE GUIDE, IF I WILL, IF I MAY.
UM, THE UNIDOS MISSION STATEMENT IS PROVIDED AN OPPORTUNITY FOR POLICE AGENCIES TO PARTNER WITH THEIR SPANISH SPEAKING RESIDENCE AND SERVE AS A RESOURCE FOR CREATING AN IMPROVED QUALITY OF LIFE FOR THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY.
UM, AND SPECIFICALLY JUST TRYING TO BRIDGE THAT GAP BETWEEN OUR, OUR SPANISH SPEAKING, UM, OFFICERS, IF I MAY, UM, I, I READ THIS AND I'VE READ IT SEVERAL TIMES, AND, UM, WHEN I GET CONFUSED, I GO BACK TO THE PURPOSE.
UM, INTRODUCTION TO UNIDOS IS A COM COMMUNITY PROGRAM GEARED TOWARD IMPROVING THE QUALITY OF LIFE FOR SPANISH SPEAKING RESIDENTS.
THIS IS ACCOMPLISHED BY PROVIDING ASSISTANCE IN AREAS OF NCE TO HISPANIC COMMUNITY AND FOCUSING ON BEING A RESOURCE CENTER TO
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MEET THE NEEDS OF RESIDENTS WHOSE FIRST LANGUAGE IS SPANISH.WHAT I HAVE FOUND IN 25 YEARS OF WORKING FOR THE BAYTOWN POLICE DEPARTMENT IS THE HISPANIC COMMUNITY, SPANISH SPEAKING COMMUNITY, RARELY CALL THE POLICE.
AND THERE HAVE, WE KIND OF DON'T LIKE TO GET INVOLVED, ESPECIALLY WHEN THERE ISN'T ANY TRUST.
SO IF THERE'S ANY WAY THAT WE CAN, YOU KNOW, BRIDGE THAT GAP AND, AND EARN THE TRUST, UM, I MEAN, I'M ALL FOR IT.
WE HAD OUR FIRST, UH, COMMUNITY, UH, OUTREACH EVENT, UH, THIS PAST SUNDAY.
NOW ON, ON THIS COMMITTEE IS A BUNCH OF POLICE OFFICERS.
SO THE MAJORITY OF US WORKED NIGHTS.
WE GOT OFF THAT MORNING, GOT A COUPLE HOURS SLEEP.
UM, SOME OFFICERS WERE WORK WORKING THAT NIGHT AND WE SET UP A, A BOOTH AND, UH, AND WE HAVE SOME STUFF TO HAND OUT.
AND WE STARTED TALKING TO THESE KIDS AND THEY'RE KIND OF RELUCTANT TO COME UP TO US.
WHERE WERE YOU? UH, UH, OUR LADY OF GUADALUPE CATHOLIC CHURCH AT THEIR ANNUAL CHURCH BAZAAR.
WE, UM, WE IN THE HISPANIC COMMUNITY, WHAT DO WE LIKE TO TELL OUR KIDS? YOU KNOW, YOU BETTER ACT, YOU BETTER ACT, RIGHT.
SO WE SEE A LOT OF OUR, OUR YOUNGSTERS KIND OF RELUCTANT TO COME UP TO US.
BUT AFTER A WHILE, I MEAN, WE WERE, WE HAD A, A MAJOR LINE OF KIDS AND PARENTS AND TALKING ABOUT RECRUITING CHIEF, I WAS RECRUITING ALSO
UH, AND, UH, WE HAD A GREAT TIME, YOU KNOW, SEEING ALL THESE KIDS.
UM, SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE WORKING ON.
UM, WE'RE WORKING ON OUR OWN BANNERS AND, AND OUR OWN, UM, UM, STUFF, YOU KNOW, TO IDENTIFY OUR GROUP AND EVERYTHING ELSE.
I HAVE RIGHT NOW, EIGHT OFFICERS, ALL BILINGUAL OFFICERS.
UM, THE FUTURE, WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS, IS, AND DR. MORENO, YOU'RE, YOU'RE, YOU'RE SURE, UM, WELCOME TO HELP DOING TOWN HALL MEETINGS ONCE A QUARTER AND COMING UP WITH DIFFERENT IDEAS, DIFFERENT, UH, ISSUES IN OUR COMMUNITY THAT WE CAN TALK TO.
AND, YOU KNOW, UH, WE'RE GONNA INVITE GUEST SPEAKERS AND WE'RE GONNA BE SITTING IN, IN THE CROWD WITH OFFICERS, AND WE'RE GONNA VISIT AFTERWARDS.
I MEAN, WE'RE GONNA SIT IN THE CROWD WITH, WITH OUR RESIDENTS, AND WE'RE GONNA VISIT AFTERWARDS AND JUST, UH, AND, AND GET TO KNOW EACH OTHER AND START, YOU KNOW, UM, BEING ABLE TO GIVE 'EM RESOURCES, UH, WHEN THEY, WHEN THEY NEED THEM.
UM, WE'RE GONNA HOPEFULLY HAVE A COMMUNITY OUTREACH EVENT TOWARDS THE END OF THE YEAR, AND THEN NEXT YEAR WE'LL HAVE ONE EVERY THREE MONTHS, EVERY QUARTER.
ALONG WITH, UM, ANY TYPE OF COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT EVENTS THAT, THAT MAY COME UP.
ARE YOU OPEN TO SOME QUESTIONS? SURE.
RICHARD, I THINK, OH, I, I'D LIKE TO, MORE THAN A QUESTION, JUST PUT SOMETHING OUT THERE.
UM, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THIS COMMITTEE MOVE FROM BEHIND THE DIOCESE AND INTO ONE OF THOSE MM-HMM
WHERE WE ACTUALLY HOLD OUR MEETING IN THE COMMUNITY WITH THEM AND GIVE THEM AN OPPORTUNITY TO SEE US, TO TALK TO US AND GOOD IDEA WORK WITH.
SO, UM, WE ARE MORE THAN WELCOME TO DISCUSS THIS AND TRY TO PUT THIS ON THE AGENDA TO FIGURE OUT WHEN WOULD BE APPROPRIATE.
THAT WAS ONE OF THE ITEMS THAT I MISSED ON OUR PREVIOUS BUSINESS ITEMS. SO WE WILL GO BACK TO THAT IN JUST, JUST A MOMENT.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR LIEUTENANT HOSA? SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT MAR, SORRY.
WHEN YOU LOOK AT MARKETING, YOU'RE WANTING TO PUT BANNERS WHERE, LIKE IN THE, WITHIN THE LATINO COMMUNITY? OR ARE YOU LOOKING AT WE'RE GONNA HAND OUT FLYERS, UHHUH, UH, WE'RE GOING TO SOCIAL MEDIA.
UH, WHEN WE ARE DO AN EVENT, WE'RE GONNA HAVE ALL OUR, OUR BANNERS AND, AND EVERYTHING OUT.
SO PEOPLE OUR HISPANIC COMMUNITY COULD SEE IT'S GONNA BE IN, IN BILINGUAL SPANISH AND ENGLISH.
SO THEY CAN SEE WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO.
AND THEN OF COURSE, HOPEFULLY THE, THE CONVERSATION, I MEAN, PLEASE BRING IT TO THE COLLEGE BECAUSE WE'D LOVE TO BE ABLE TO PUT THOSE OKAY.
PUT THOSE FLYERS UP AROUND THE COLLEGE SO THAT THEY CAN SEE, YOU KNOW, THAT YOU'RE DOING.
'CAUSE WE'VE SEEN SOME COFFEE WITH A COFFEE WITH, IS IT COFFEE WITH THE COPS? I DON'T WANNA SAY THAT.
I THOUGHT COP WAS IN A, WASN'T A NICE WORD.
SO I ALWAYS SAID POLICE OFFICERS, IT DOESN'T BOTHER US.
I DIDN'T KNOW IF Y'ALL ARE SENSITIVE.
UH, ANYWAY, SO IT'S, IT'S GOOD MARKETING.
YOU MAY WANNA EVEN REACH OUT TO THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS
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YES.AND SEE WHAT, UH, IF THEY CAN DO IT AS WELL OR PUT IT WITH THEIR FLYERS.
UM, JUST SO PEOPLE ARE, ARE MADE AWARE OF IT.
ESPECIALLY THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS.
THAT'S WHERE YOU SEE EVERYBODY SHOW UP TO THE PTO MEETINGS TO CONSIDER GOING TO A PTO MEETING.
I, I, I'VE ONLY BEEN IN BAYTOWN SINCE 2013, AND ALMOST AS SOON AS I GOT HERE, I STARTED LOOKING AT CENSUS INFORMATION.
I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS 100% ACCURATE, BUT AT THE TIME, IT WAS, UH, THE 2010 CENSUS SAID THAT, UM, THAT THE LATINO POPULATION WAS SOMEWHERE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF 40% OF BAYTOWN.
AND ROUGHLY, UH, HALF OF THE POPULATION OF BAYTOWN WAS SPANISH SPEAKING FIRST LANGUAGE.
UM, HAVE WE GOTTEN UPDATED INFORMATION, UH, FROM, FROM THAT, THAT WE WOULD BE FOR 2020? THAT'S OUT.
THAT, THAT, I BELIEVE THE LAST ESTIMATE IS CLOSER TO 51%.
HOW MUCH OF THAT IS SPANISH LANGUAGE FIRST, FIRST LANGUAGE? I DON'T REMEMBER.
BUT I DO REMEMBER THAT THE, UH, THE CURRENT ESTIMATE COMING UP ON THE NEXT, UH, CENSUS, WE ARE RIGHT AT, UH, 51% HISPANIC LATINA.
I MEAN, THAT'S, THAT'S JUST SOME THINGS THAT, THAT THIS COMMITTEE NEEDS TO BE AWARE OF, OF, OF THE, OF HOW THE DEMOGRAPHIC IS, IS SHIFTING.
AND THIS IS ONE OF THE REASONS WHY WE ARE FOCUSING AND, AND, AND THAT TRUST THAT WE KNOW FOR SURE IN OUR COMMUNITY, THIS IS WHERE WE'RE GONNA MAKE THE BIGGEST IMPACT RIGHT NOW.
UH, AND IT'S THE REASON WE'RE WORKING SO HARD WITH THE HISPANIC COMMUNITY RIGHT NOW, AND THE CULTURAL DIVERSITY THERE TO BE ABLE TO HELP, UH, TO UNDERSTAND IT, IS BECAUSE THIS IS WHERE WE'RE GONNA RIGHT NOW, MAKE SOME OF THE BIGGEST FIRST IMPACTS IN OUR COMMUNITY ON CRIME AND, UH, QUALITY OF LIFE.
SO, SO HOW CAN WE BE INVOLVED WITH THEIR, WITH YOUR COMMITTEE? 'CAUSE YOU SAID YOU HAVE A COMMITTEE? UM, IT'S A COMMITTEE OF EIGHT OFFICERS RIGHT NOW.
AND WE'RE JUST STARTING, UM, YOU KNOW, ANY IDEAS ARE WELCOME.
UM, UM, READING THIS, I'M GOING TO OUR NEXT MEETING, I HOPE TO HAVE, UM, OR A REFERENCE GUIDE.
I WAS GONNA MAKE A COPY AND GIVE IT TO EVERYONE, BUT I, I DON'T WANT IT TO SAY PLANO, WITH ALL DUE RESPECT TO PLAN, I WANT IT TO SAY BAYTOWN POLICE DEPARTMENT.
SO I'M GONNA WAIT, AND BEFORE I HAND EVERYTHING OUT, AND I'LL BE HAPPY TO COME BACK AND SHOW YOU OUR BANNERS AND EVERYTHING WE GOT GOING, OUR REFERENCE GUIDE AND EVERYTHING.
SO, UM, Y'ALL CAN SEE, AND, UM, AND, AND WE'LL, WE'LL FIGURE THAT OUT IF I, I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH, WITH ALL THE HELP I CAN GET, YOU KNOW, UM, OBVIOUSLY THERE'S, THERE'S, UH, SOME GUIDELINES THAT MM-HMM.
THE POLICE DEPARTMENT HAS TO, UH, ABIDE BY.
I WILL TELL YOU THIS, JUNE THE FOURTH AT BICENTENNIAL PARK, THERE IS GOING TO BE A BILINGUAL, UM, CHURCH ACTIVITY.
NIGHT OF PRAISE AND WORSHIP, AL AND, AND, UM, UH, ILI, UM, OH MY GOODNESS.
FROM, UH, SABOR, UH, SHE'S, LOOK, LILIANA, LILIANA, THANK YOU.
UM, IS LOOKING FOR, UH, BOOTH, UH, BOOTH SPACES.
SO FOR WHAT THAT'S WORTH, EMAIL ME.
I SEE YOUR EMAIL ALL THE TIME.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR LIEUTENANT HENA HOSO ON THIS? SO CAN WE PUT IT ON THE AGENDA ITEM FOR HIM TO COME BACK AND GIVE US ANOTHER UPDATE? 'CAUSE I KNOW YOU HAVE TO PUT IT ON THE AGENDA FOR NEXT TIME FOR HIM TO TALK ABOUT IT.
YOU, UH, I'M, I'M FINE WITH THAT.
I'M JUST MAKING SURE I'M FOLLOWING THE, THE, THERE WE GO.
OUR NEXT MEETING IS ON, UM, RUNOFF ELECTION DAY FOR THE DIFFERENT PRIMARIES MATTERS.
WELL, WE'LL GET THROUGH THAT IN JUST A MINUTE.
CHIEF, DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER ITEMS ON, UM, ON UPDATES THAT YOU'D LIKE TO SHARE WITH US BEFORE WE MOVE ON? UH, JUST, UH, TO TOUCH ON TRANSPARENCY, UH, EVENTUALLY WHAT I WANT TO DO, I JUST GOTTA FIGURE OUT HOW WE'RE GONNA DO IT, UH, ON OUR, ON OUR WEBSITE, I'M LOOKING AT A COUPLE OF, UH, OF PROGRAMS THAT, UH, MAY BE BENEFICIAL TO, TO DOING IT.
ONE, IT'S, UH, IT IS PUTTING OUR, UH, OUR POLICIES AND PROCEDURES ONLINE SO THAT ANYBODY CAN SEE THEM.
AND THERE'S NOTHING INCREDIBLY SECRET ABOUT 'EM.
UH, THERE ARE CERTAIN THINGS THAT, THAT WOULD BE INAPPROPRIATE TO, UH, TO PUBLISH THAT WOULD BE OFFICER SAFETY THINGS.
BUT, UH, THOSE ARE PROCEDURES VERSUS POLICIES.
UM, SO, YOU KNOW, THERE'S, THERE, THERE'S SOME, UH, OH, HELP ME, I, I APOLOGIZE.
IT'S BEEN A VERY LONG DAY, UH, POLICY DOCUMENT,
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UH, MANAGEMENT SYSTEMS THAT, UH, ACTUALLY HAVE A, A, A FORWARD FACING SIDE THAT THE PUBLIC CAN ACCESS FOR LIKE A READ ONLY, UH, ONLINE.SO, UH, YOU KNOW, THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING THAT WE COULD DO IN THE FUTURE.
AND, UH, ESPECIALLY AS WE, YOU KNOW, CONTINUE TO WORK WITH IT AND TECHNOLOGY AND GET, GET SOME OF OUR, OUR BUGS AND OUR ISSUES, UH, THAT WE'VE BEEN EXPERIENCED, UH, EXPERIENCING OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS, UH, YOU KNOW, TAKEN CARE OF, YOU KNOW, WE CAN LOOK AT DOING THAT TOO.
UH, POSITIVE THING ABOUT USING A PROGRAM LIKE THAT IS THAT IT MAKES IT MUCH, WE'RE NOT GONNA OVERLOOK ANYTHING THAT WE REPLACE OR WE REVISE.
'CAUSE AS SOON AS YOU PUBLISH A NEW DOCUMENT, IT ARCHIVES THE OLD ONE.
SO, AND, AND IT'S ALWAYS THERE.
A LAWSUIT POPS UP UNDER THIS VERSION OF A POLICY THAT AN OFFICER WAS WORKING UNDER.
IT'S BEEN RECORDED AND WE CAN PULL IT EASILY.
UH, BUT YEAH, I, I'D LIKE TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT SO PEOPLE JUST HAVE A BETTER IDEA OF, OF, YOU KNOW, EVEN WHY WE DO WHAT WE DO, BECAUSE A LOT OF OUR POLICIES WILL REFERENCE CASE LAW.
UH, THEY'LL REFERENCE, UH, UH, SCOTUS RULINGS AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
SO IS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU CAN SHOW US IN TERMS OF WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE? UM, I MEAN, NOT TODAY, OBVIOUSLY.
UH, PLANNING AHEAD OUTSIDE OF, UH, I, I, I, I CAN MAYBE LIKE ANOTHER, MAYBE CAN GIVE ANOTHER, I CAN GIVE AN AGENCY THAT, THAT, THAT USES IT.
I, I SHOULD BE ABLE TO GET YOU SOME AGENCIES NEXT TIME THAT THEY USE IT.
SO I THINK THAT'S VERY SMART FOR TRANSPARENCY.
WELL, IT KEEPS US ORGANIZED TOO, BECAUSE IF YOU'RE NOT CAREFUL, THAT'S, THAT'S VERY DAUNTING.
'CAUSE WE'RE CONSTANTLY REVIEWING AND REVISING POLICIES AND YOU RULINGS ARE COMING OUT.
WE'RE HAVING TO CHANGE THOSE WHEN WE GO THROUGH.
UH, IT'S NO LONGER CALLED RECOGNITION, BY THE WAY.
NOW IT IS, UH, ACCREDITATION IS WHAT THE TEXAS POLICE CHIEFS ASSOCIATION IS CALLING OUR, OUR BEST STANDARDS AND PRACTICES.
UM, I WOULD JUST, I TALK TO PATIENTS ABOUT VARIOUS THINGS AND THEY, THEY WOULD LOVE TO SEE MORE INTERACTION WITH THE POLICE.
YOU KNOW, NOT NECESSARILY JUST SITTING IN THEIR CARS, BUT POSSIBLY LIKE WALKING A BEAT.
UM, WHETHER IT'S AN APARTMENT COMPLEX OR A LOW INCOME NEIGHBORHOOD, YOU KNOW, GO OUT IN PAIRS AND GO OUT AND TALK TO THE PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY OUT OF THE CARS.
AND NOT JUST SITTING IN THE CARS, LOOKING AT THE PEOPLE, BUT POSSIBLY ACTUALLY COMMUNICATING WITH, WITH THE, YOU KNOW, NEIGHBORHOODS.
IT WOULD BE, IT WOULD BE GREAT.
I KNOW PLANNED EVENTS ARE GREAT, YOU KNOW, AND YOU GET THOSE PEOPLE THAT ARE INTO GOING TO PLAY IN ADVANCE.
BUT IF, IF YOU SEE, YOU KNOW, LIKE AFTER SCHOOL, THE KIDS ARE OUTTA SCHOOL, YOU'VE GOT YOUR HIGH SCHOOLERS AND POSSIBLY HANGING OUTSIDE WHEN THEY'RE NOT PLAYING VIDEO GAMES OR ON THEIR PHONES.
UM, YOU KNOW, THAT IF YOU COULD JUST GET OUT INTO THE COMMUNITY, MORE OUT OF THE CAR, OUT OF THE PATROL CARS AND TALKING TO PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, WHETHER IT'S SHOOTING HOOPS OR, YOU KNOW, IF SOME KID'S GOT SOME MUSIC PLAYING, GET OUT AND DANCE WITH 'EM.
WHAT, YOU KNOW, IT WOULD BE, IT WOULD BE.
AND WE'VE GOT OFFICERS THAT DO GOOD PR.
YOU MAY, YOU MAY NOT ALWAYS SEE IT.
WE'VE GOT OFFICERS THAT DO THAT.
UH, EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE YOU'LL SEE WHERE SOMEBODY HAS SENT US A PICTURE AND WE PUT IT ONLINE.
UH, OUR STREET CRIMES UNITS BOUGHT SEVERAL BASKETBALL GOALS, I GUESS.
UH, THEY PASSED THE HAT AND, YOU KNOW, THEY'VE GONE OUT AND GOTTEN BASKETBALL GOALS FOR KIDS AND SET 'EM UP AND, AND PLAYED WITH 'EM.
UH, YOU KNOW, UH, PART OF IT'S TIED BACK TO RECRUITING TOO, IS BEING ABLE TO FILL THESE EMPTY SPOTS THAT WE HAVE.
'CAUSE A LOT OF TIMES WHEN YOU SEE OUR OFFICERS PULLED OVER ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD, THEY'RE NOT JUST SITTING THERE, THEY'RE WRITING REPORTS ON THEIR, UH, MOBILE DATA TERMINALS.
AND THEY'RE, THEY'RE, THEY'RE, THEY'RE RUNNING TO THAT NEXT CALL.
I THINK LIEUTENANT CAN PROBABLY SPEAK TO THAT BETTER THAN I CAN.
'CAUSE I LISTEN TO IT ON THE RADIO WHILE I'M RUNNING FROM MEETING TO MEETING.
BUT, UH, YOU KNOW, I HEAR HIM JUST CONSTANTLY, UH, BACK TO AN OFFICER UP TODAY, UH, AT THE, UH, AT THE ANIMAL SHELTER, UH, AT THE ANIMAL CONTROL SHELTER, UH, WE HAD SOMEBODY DOWN THERE WHO WAS UNRULY.
AND, UH, I WAS, WAS, WAS IN THE AREA GOING TO THE ANIMAL CONTROL SHELTER ANYWAY, SO
UM, SO I WAS ABLE TO, TO GET DOWN THERE AND HELP.
BUT AN OFFICER WAS HAVING TO COME FROM A, ANOTHER DISTRICT IN THE CITY THAT WAS, WAS QUITE A WAYS AWAY.
SO, UM, AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT AN EXCUSE, BUT THOSE ARE THINGS THAT, THAT WE'RE DEFINITELY PUSHING.
AND, YOU KNOW, I, I'VE TALKED TO LIEUTENANT OSA THAT, AND, YOU KNOW, I'D LOVE TO SEE OUR, UH, HISPANIC OUTREACH TEAM PULL ANOTHER OFFICER FROM PATROL, MAYBE NOT NECESSARILY A HISPANIC OFFICER, AND SAY, HEY, LET'S GET OUT.
LET'S WALK DOWN THE STREET AND, UH, AND TALK TO SOME OF THESE FOLKS.
SO THE WAY TO MONITOR THAT POSSIBLY WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, HOW MUCH
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GASOLINE IS A CAR BURNING? MM-HMMYOU KNOW, IF YOU'VE, IF YOU'VE GOT A EIGHT HOUR SHIFT AND ONE CAR IS BURNING ALMOST NO GASOLINE, THAT MEANS THEY'RE PROBABLY OUT OF THEIR CAR AND INTERACTING WITH THE PUBLIC.
AND ONE THAT'S JUST SITTING THERE IDLY, YOU KNOW, WITH THE ENGINE RUNNING OR WHATEVER, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE GONNA BURN A LOT MORE GAS, SO YOU COULD POSSIBLY USE THE CARS.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S GONNA BE THE BEST MEASURE FOR US.
I THINK THE BEST MEASURE IS, IS PROBABLY TO BE ABLE TO SAY, UH, YOU KNOW, OUR, OUR, OUR CALL, OUR OUR EVENT TYPES FOR OUR CALLS OUT OF THE CAR, UH, ON THIS TYPE OF EVENT, UH, OUR CARS, WE TEND TO KEEP THEM RUNNING BECAUSE WE HAVE SO MUCH IN THEM THAT IF WE'RE NOT CAREFUL, WE START LOSING, UH, MDTS GO DOWN, WE HAVE TO TURN 'EM BACK ON, REBOOT 'EM.
THAT CAN TAKE ANYWHERE FROM TWO MINUTES TO 15 MINUTES, DEPENDING ON WHICH SHAPE WE'RE IN WITH IT.
UH, AND THEN KEEPING THEM COOL, UH, SO THEY DON'T OVERHEAT AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
SO, I MEAN, THE ENGINE'S STILL GONNA BE IDLING.
WHAT WE CAN DO THOUGH, IS WE CAN SAY, HEY, I'M GONNA BE OUT ON THIS TYPE OF EVENT, AND I'LL LET YOU SPEAK TO THAT IF YOU WANT TO.
UM, SO I'M THE SHIFT COMMANDER ON EVENINGS, OR WE CALL IT GRAVEYARDS.
WE COME ON AT 6:00 PM WORK WEDNESDAY, THURSDAY, FRIDAY AND SATURDAY.
SO TYPICALLY WHEN WE COME ON DUTY CALLS ARE HOLDING AND IT'S CALL AFTER CALL, AFTER CALL AFTER CALL.
WE'RE BUSY TILL ABOUT THREE OR FOUR O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING.
UM, AND THAT, THAT'S PRETTY MUCH EVERY NIGHT.
UM, NOW WE STILL GET OUT AND TALK TO KIDS AND, YOU KNOW, CULTURE DIVERSITY, YOU KNOW, UM, WHEN AN OFFICER ASKS SOMEBODY TO TRANSLATE FOR 'EM, UM, I'M, I SPEAK SPANISH.
WE HAVE A FEW OTHER OFFICERS, WHICH I'M GRATEFUL THAT WE HAVE SPANISH SPEAKING OFFICERS ON SHIP.
IF NOT, I WOULD BE DOING ALL THE TRANSLATING.
AND THERE'S CULTURAL DIVERSITY RIGHT THERE.
THERE'S, UM, YOU KNOW, TALKING TO THE HISPANIC COMMUNITY AND, AND EVERYTHING ELSE, UM, WE, WE A LOT OF TIMES, UM, UH, GET OUT WITH THE KIDS, UH, WHEN WE ANSWERING CALLS.
WE ARE TALKING TO 'EM, OBVIOUSLY WHEN IT'S SAFE AND EVERYTHING ELSE.
SO WE ENGAGE THE COMMUNITY A LOT MORE THAN, THAN WHAT'S VISIBLE.
AND, AND IF THE OFFICER IS REALLY, UH, IF YOU SEE AN OFFICER IDLING IN A PATROL CAR, UM, HE'S USUALLY TRYING TO, UM, AT LEAST DO THE SYNOPSIS OR AT LEAST THE COVER PAGE OF HIS REPORTS.
'CAUSE WE AVERAGE ANYWHERE FROM FOUR TO SIX TO EIGHT REPORTS A A NIGHT, JUST DEPENDING ON, ON THE SHIFT.
SO, AND THEY CAN BE ANYWHERE FROM 250 TO A THOUSAND WORD REPORT.
SO, YOU KNOW, SO IT'S PLUS THE BLOCKS THAT THEY HAVE TO FIND IN CHECK IT, IT, IT'S A, IT'S A BUSY SHIFT.
I HADN'T WORKED NIGHTS IN MANY YEARS.
I WAS A, A DETECTIVE SERGEANT IN INVESTIGATIONS, AND NOW I'M WORKING NIGHTS, AND I FORGOT HOW MUCH THE RADIO GOES OFF AT NIGHTTIME.
AND ON WEEKENDS WE'RE, WE'RE REALLY BUSY.
BUT TRUST ME, OUR ROLL CALLS IS BUILT AROUND TRAINING, OUR ROLL CALLS.
MY ROLL CALLS ARE BUILT AROUND DIGNITY AND RESPECT.
AND, UH, WE'RE ALWAYS TALKING ABOUT DIFFERENT TYPE OF TOPICS.
MIRANDA WARNING, WHEN TO, TO, TO GIVE SOME WOMEN MIRANDA WARNING AND, AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
SO, UM, IT'S ALWAYS BUILT AROUND, UM, POSITIVE, UM, ROLL CALLS WITH MYSELF AND MY OFFICERS.
WELL, CHIEF, I APPRECIATE THE LIEUTENANT.
I APPRECIATE THE, THE REPORT AND, UH, THE UPDATE ON THE POLICE OUTREACH, COMMUNITY POLICING, THE TRAINING, THE POLICY, AND THE PROCEDURES.
AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO RECEIVING, UH, THE FUTURE UPDATES, UH, HOPEFULLY AS EARLY AS THE NEXT, THE NEXT, OUR NEXT MEETING, WHICH TAKES US TO,
[c. Discuss and consider the presentation of the Baytown Police Advisory Committee's quarterly report to the City Council in May 2022.]
UH, FOUR C ITEM FOUR C.AND THAT'S TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER THE PRESENTATION OF THE BAYTOWN POLICE ADVISORY COMMITTEE'S QUARTERLY REPORT TO THE CITY COUNCIL IN MAY OF 2022.
MS. ANGIE, DO YOU, WE KNOW WHAT IS THE DATE THAT WE NEED TO BE PREPARED FOR THO FOR THAT? SO THE ONE IN MAY IS, UM, YOU CAN DO THE 26TH, MAY THE 26TH.
THE COUNCIL MEETING FOR MAY 26TH.
AND THAT'S A TUESDAY OR A THURSDAY? THAT'S A THURSDAY.
AND YOUR MEETING WOULD TYPICALLY RUN ON THE 24TH OF MAY.
DO YOU HAVE OUR PREVIOUS REPORTS? YES, SIR.
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UH, THIS HAS BEEN A REPORT THAT MM-HMMUM, PASTOR MONTGOMERY AND MYSELF HELP PUT TOGETHER, UH, WITH THE HELP OF MS. KAREN HORNER.
AND, UH, WE CONGRATULATE HER ON HER NEW OPPORTUNITIES AND GOING TO BE WORKING WITH OUR, OUR NEW LEGAL, UH, LEGAL TEAM AND ALL.
UH, TYPICALLY THE, THE PRESENTATION TO THE COUNCIL IS JUST A VERY BRIEF OVERVIEW OF, UH, WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING.
UM, SO HERE'S MY RECOMMENDATION.
YOU HAVE A COPY OF THE PREVIOUS, THE PREVIOUS PRESENTATIONS.
AND AFTER TONIGHT'S, UM, ELECTIONS, UH, DR. MORENO AND I CAN GET TOGETHER AND WE CAN, UM, BUILD A TEMPLATE.
AND IF OUR MEETING IS ON THE MAY THE 24TH, THEN BY THAT TIME, SHE AND I WILL HAVE SOME TIME TO, UH, PUT TOGETHER A REVIEW OF THIS PAST QUARTER.
UM, WE NEED TO FACTOR IN THAT WE DIDN'T,
UM, ARE THERE ANY ITEMS THAT, THAT ARE OF UTMOST IMPORTANCE THAT WE NEED TO BRING UP AT, UM, AT THE NEXT MEETING? OUR MEETING OR COUNCIL MEETING? THE COUNCIL MEETING FOR IN PREP ON THE, IN PREPARATION FOR, LEMME THANK YOU FOR CLAR FOR HELPING ME CLARIFY.
UH, IN PREPARATION FOR THE PRESENTATION, ARE THERE ANY ITEMS THAT JUST JUMP OUT AT ANYBODY THAT WE NEED TO BRING UP THE NEW TRAINING, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT'S DOING OKAY.
ANY OTHER ITEMS THAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT ON THAT? OH, GOOD.
MY HISPANIC, UH, WELL, THAT'S WHAT WE'LL, YOU ASKED.
YEAH, THAT'S, THAT'S DEFINITELY ONE OF THE THINGS WE'LL PUT ON.
SO WE'LL GET THAT SQUARED AWAY AND THEN, AND, UM, IF WE COULD PUT THAT ON OUR AGENDA ITEM TO DO A QUICK REVIEW, A CURSORY REVIEW OF THE, UH, OF THE PRESENTATION FOR OUR NEXT, UH, AGENDA.
AND IF ANYBODY THINKS OF ANYTHING ELSE, LIKE WHEN YOU'RE IN THE SHOWER TOMORROW OR
MAKE SURE WE'VE ACTUALLY NOPE, NO PICTURES, PLEASE.
THANK YOU FOR THE CLARIFICATION.
PICTURE FROM THE SHOWER Y DID WE EVER, EVER SHOW THEM THE DECO? YES.
LIKE THE, EVERYTHING COMPLETED AT THIS LAST YES.
ONE THAT WE HAD IN JANUARY THAT, UM, WHEN I DID THE PRESENTATION, UH, THEY HAD, I DID NOT HAVE IT ON THE POWERPOINT, UH, BUT IT WAS, IT HAD BEEN EMAILED TO, UH, TO ALL OF THE COUNSEL.
SO ESSENTIALLY EVERYTHING THAT WE'VE ALREADY DONE UNDER MENTAL I ILLNESS NEEDS TO BE DONE.
LIKE, WE DON'T NEED TO TALK ABOUT THAT ANYMORE.
'CAUSE WE REALLY HAVE BEEN, WE'RE PRETTY DONE WITH MENTAL ILLNESS AT THIS POINT.
I, WE'RE MOVING ALONG THE LINES.
THIS IS MY, THIS IS MY PERSPECTIVE, DR.
I THINK IT DOESN'T NEED TO NECESSARILY GO AWAY.
WE JUST NEED TO PUT SOMEHOW INDICATE THAT WE'VE COVERED IT VERY WELL.
IN OTHER WORDS, I DON'T WANT LIKE, THE WHOLE PRESENTATION TO BE ON IT AGAIN.
I KNOW, I, I, AND WE CAN, YOU AND I CAN, CAN, UH, MAKE SURE THAT, THAT, THAT THOSE DETAILS ARE COVERED VERY WELL.
AND LET ME JUST CLARIFY SOMETHING.
ANY EMAILS THAT YOU MAY SEND, PLEASE MAKE SURE YOU SEND THOSE TO THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE AND WE'LL GET THOSE TO DR.
JUST REMEMBER THAT, THAT WE DO HAVE TO ABIDE BY THE, UM, STATE OF TEXAS OPEN MEETING RULES.
AND SO WE CAN'T MEET AND HAVE A SIDEBAR.
RIGHT? WELL, WE CAN'T HAVE A QUORUM.
SO ALRIGHTYY, THAT SOUNDS GOOD.
AND IT'S, UH, CONSIDERING SETTING A DATE, TIME, AND LOCATION FOR THE NEXT BAYTOWN POLICE ADVISORY COMMITTEE MEETING, ALONG WITH ANY RELATED TASK AND, UH, PROCESSES.
THE REASON WHY THAT THE, THE SPECIFIC DATE WAS NOT PUT ON HERE.
OUR REGULARLY SCHEDULED, UM, OUR REGULARLY SCHEDULED MEETINGS ARE FOR THE LAST TUESDAY OF EACH MONTH.
UH, THAT'S, THAT'S HOW IT WAS SET UP ORIGINALLY WHEN WE MET.
UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HAS BEEN
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TALKED ABOUT, BUT WE NEVER DID GET IT ONTO THE AGENDA, WAS THE POSSIBILITY OF TRYING TO MEET OUTSIDE OF THE CITY HALL, TRYING TO MEET IN CHURCHES, CIVIC CENTER, UH, CIVIC MEETINGS, THINGS OF THAT NATURE.SO WE CAN GO AHEAD AND SET THE NEXT MEETING FOR MAY THE, MAY THE 24TH, JUST AS A, AS FOR OUR NEXT MEETING.
BUT WHAT I WOULD LIKE FOR US TO CONSIDER IS WITHIN OUR DISTRICTS, IF MEETING ON A MONTHLY BASIS IS NOT ENOUGH TIME FOR US TO GET ENOUGH INFORMATION FROM OUR, UH, RESPECTIVE DISTRICTS AND ALL, YOU KNOW, IF, IF WE NEED TO DO A, UH, SEMI-MONTHLY, I ALWAYS GET SEMI A MONTH BI-MONTHLY.
SO BI-MONTHLY MEETING IN ORDER TO CONNECT WITH OUR CONSTITUENTS.
UM, YES, WE DO HAVE REPORTS TO GET FROM, FROM THE, THE POLICE CHIEF.
AND YES, WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE MOVING FORWARD.
HOWEVER, UM, WHEN WE WERE IN THE LAST MEETING, THE, THE TOPIC WAS COMING UP OF, ARE WE, ARE WE MEETING JUST TO MEET, BECAUSE THERE'S A BOOK OUT THERE CALLED DEATH BY MEETING.
AND, UH, I KNOW THAT WE ALL JUST LOVE MEETINGS, BUT THE FACT IS, UH, SOMETIMES MEETING TOO OFTEN CAN BE COUNTERINTUITIVE.
SO THE, UH, THE, THE, THE ITEM THERE WAS, UH, WAS BROUGHT UP JUST SO THAT WE CAN CONSIDER LOOKING AT OTHER OPTIONS.
CHIEF, WHAT DID YOU, DO? YOU HAVE A COMMENT? I WAS GONNA SAY, AND, AND SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO SO THAT WE CAN GIVE YOU, UH, MAY TAKE, MAY NOT BE READY IN, IN ONE MONTH.
I MEAN, WE, WE HAVE OTHER THINGS THAT, UH, THAT ARE ALREADY IN MOTION THAT IT MAY TAKE MORE TIME BECAUSE IT BECOMES AN ANCILLARY TASK OR AN ADDITIONAL TASK THAT OUR PERSONNEL HAVE TO DO.
AND WE JUST, WE DON'T HAVE THE ADDITIONAL PERSONNEL TO SAY, THIS IS YOUR SOLE MISSION RIGHT NOW.
UM, SO, YOU KNOW, I WOULD ASK, YOU KNOW, IF YOU WANTED TO, TO CONSIDER THAT, UH, THE, UH, THE, THE CITIZEN ADVISORY COMMITTEE THAT WE HAD IN MY PREVIOUS AGENCY, UH, THEY MET, UH, I BELIEVE IT WAS EVERY OTHER MONTH.
WHEN IS OUR LAST DAY FOR THIS ONE? WHEN IS IT, WHEN IS THIS ONE OVER THIS TERM, THIS TERM, THIS TERM.
WHEN IS THIS COMMITTEE OVER THIS TERM? UM, LET ME, BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE WE LOST THREE MONTHS.
AND SO AS I THINK IT'S SOMETIME IN AUGUST.
LEMME I WOULD SAY SHE AND I WERE TALKING ABOUT IT EARLIER.
IT SEEMED LIKE SEPTEMBER 30TH WAS THE END OF THE TERM IN OCTOBER 1ST OR THE BEGINNING.
BUT THAT COULD BE SOMETHING ELSE THAT I'M, I WOULD SAY WE DEFINITELY NEED A MEETING BEFORE THE CITY COUNCIL PRESENTATION.
AND THEN MAYBE, MAYBE EVERY OTHER MONTH MEET HERE AND THEN THE MONTHS WE'RE NOT MEETING HERE.
WE COULD WITH THE COMMUNITY IN A CHURCH OR A, AS A COMMITTEE, AS A MM-HMM
AS A COMMITTEE AND, AND HOPEFULLY DRAW MORE PUBLIC, UM, YOU KNOW, THREE MINUTE PRESENTATIONS.
SEPTEMBER, UM, ON THE, OFF SEPTEMBER 30TH.
ARE WE DOING WHAT, SEPTEMBER 30TH? YEAH, SEPTEMBER 30TH IS THE, IS THE END OF OUR PRESENT TERM.
SO IF, IF, YOU KNOW, IF WE WANNA TALK TO OUR LOCAL CHURCHES AND SAY, HEY, YOU KNOW, SO IF WE'VE GOT A MEETING IN MAY ON THE 24TH, MAYBE IN JUNE ON THE 28TH, WE COULD POSSIBLY MEET AT ST.
MARK'S OR WHAT'S YOUR CHURCH? PENTECOSTAL BAYTOWN.
AND THE, AND DO THE OFF MEETINGS MORE AS A PUBLIC, SO THE PUBLIC CAN GET MORE FAMILIAR WITH THIS THAN I WOULD BE EVEN MORE INTERESTED IN GOING BACK TO WHAT RICHARD SAID ABOUT GOING WITH, UM, RENEE, I KNOW YOUR NAME.
I WAS TRYING TO REMEMBER IF IT WAS LIEUTENANT OR THAT'S WHY I GOT STUCK.
I WAS JUST LIKE, I GOTTA GIVE HIM THE HIGHEST ONE.
UM, AND SO I THINK IF WE CAN, IF WE CAN LOOK AT MAYBE DOING A JUNE ONE WITH YOUR COMMITTEE, WHEREVER LOCATION YOU TELL US, THEN I, I WOULD BE OPEN TO THAT.
LIKE, THAT WOULD BE WONDERFUL IF WE COULD DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT WITH THE, UM, WITH THE EIGHT OFFICERS THAT, THAT, THAT I HAVE NOW TO MEET WITH US.
IS THAT ENOUGH TIME FOR YOU TO PUBLICIZE NUMBER ONE, PUBLICIZE THE MEETING, NUMBER TWO, SECURE A, A VENUE NO.
FOR A TOWN HALL MEETING? NO, THAT'S NOT ENOUGH TIME FOR US.
WE'RE LIKE FOR TWO MONTHS, LIKE JUNE THE 28TH AREA.
UH, WELL, WE'RE STILL TRYING TO GET BANNERS AND PAMPHLETS AND MEET WITH PLANO POLICE DEPARTMENT.
UH, WE NEED, UH, STANDARD, UH, SOP STANDARD ORDER OF PROCEDURES MM-HMM
AND, AND WE'RE KIND OF LIKE, JUST IN THE BEGINNING PHASE RIGHT NOW, WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR WAS, UH, THE LAST QUARTER OF THE YEAR, UH, OCTOBER, NOVEMBER, DECEMBER TIMEFRAME.
SO CAN WE MEET, CAN OUR BPAC MEET MEETING BE TO MEET WITH HIM AND THE YES.
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THAT'S, AND, AND PROVIDE FEEDBACK IN TERMS OF, BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE THIS IS STILL A CHARGE WITHIN OUR PARAMETERS.IT'S A PART OF ONE OF OUR BUCKETS, YOU KNOW, TO GIVE US A, UM, WE WOULDN'T HAVE A WHOLE COMMUNITY, JUST YOUR COMMITTEE, YOUR TASK FORCE TO GIVE US SOME IDEAS.
LET ME JUST GO OVER REAL QUICK, A FEW IDEAS, THINGS THAT, THAT PLANO POLICE DEPARTMENT KINDA IDEAS THAT THEY'VE GONE OVER.
UM, IF I CAN PAUSE THERE REAL QUICK, LIEUTENANT, I THINK MORE THAN ANYTHING, IF, IF AT RIGHT NOW WE COULD POSSIBLY PUT A TARGET DATE ON AN EVENT, I HAVE A, I'M GONNA ASK ANGIE AND OUR LAWYER ON HERE.
SO MY QUESTION IS THIS, I KNOW WE ARE, WE HAVE TO ABIDE BY THE OPEN MEETING HERE.
ARE WE ABLE TO HAVE ANY TYPE OF WORKING SESSION WHERE IT'S STILL THE COMMITTEE, BUT YET WE CAN HAVE DISCUSSIONS? AND IT DOES NOT NECESSARILY, IT'S NOT AN OPEN FORUM.
I, I'VE WONDERED THAT AND I WANTED TO YEAH, YOU CAN.
WHAT'S WHAT CAN BE MORE DIFFICULT IS IF THOSE, IF THOSE TOPICS AREN'T KNOWN IN ADVANCE.
IN OTHER WORDS, IF YOU'RE, IF YOU CAN BE VERY SPECIFIC ABOUT YOUR TOPICS ON THE AGENDA.
BUT THEN IF SOMEBODY COMES FROM THE AUDIENCE AND SPEAKS, UH, ON A TOPIC THAT YOU DID NOT HAVE ON THE AGENDA, THAT'S WHERE YOU KIND OF HAVE PROBLEMS. 'CAUSE YOU'RE NOT ABLE TO DISCUSS IT THEN.
SO YOU WOULD WANNA BE REALLY, UH, GOOD ABOUT MAYBE BREAKING DOWN SOME OF THE TOPICS THAT YOU'D LIKE TO TALK ABOUT.
LIKE, YOU KNOW, HOW CAN WE IMPROVE RELATIONS WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, UM, AND, UM, BUT NOT TALK SPECIFICALLY ABOUT PROGRAMS, MAYBE.
SO WHAT I THINK, WHAT I THINK IF DR. MORENO AND MYSELF, WE GET TOGETHER AND WE, WE, WE SET SOME OF THOSE, SOME OF THOSE AGENDAS, AGENDA ITEMS, THOSE AGENDA ITEMS, THEN HOPEFULLY BY, EVEN BY OUR NEXT MEETING, WE'LL BE ABLE TO HOPEFULLY IRON DOWN, NAIL DOWN SOME OF THOSE THINGS THAT TO BE BROUGHT BACK TO THE COMMITTEE, UM, FOR US TO, TO HAVE FURTHER DISCUSSION AND ACTUAL, BUT I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT RENEE YES.
IS OKAY WITH THE AGENDA ITEMS THAT, BECAUSE WE'RE GONNA COME TO Y'ALL.
WE'RE, WE'RE GONNA COME TO Y'ALL.
I MEAN, IF AT ALL POSSIBLE TO, TO MEET WITH THEM AND, AND GET MORE IN, IN INPUT AND, AND THIS YEAH.
IN THIS PROGRAM, WE DO NEED OUR CITY LEADERS.
AND OF COURSE Y'ALL INVOLVED IN AND TOPICS AND, AND, YOU KNOW, STUFF LIKE THAT.
AND, AND PLEASE REMEMBER, THIS IS FOR ADVISEMENT AND NOT GOVERNANCE.
BECAUSE THESE GUYS ARE GOING TO TRAINING JUST LIKE, YOU KNOW, THE REST.
WE ARE PROFESSIONAL PRACTITIONERS OF POLICE SERVICES.
WE GET REGULAR TRAINING AND WE NEED TO KNOW WHAT THE PERSON ON THE STREET IN THE COMMUNITY HAS FOR US, UH, BEYOND JUST THE OPINIONS IN THE ROOM, WHICH I FULLY RESPECT AND I APPRECIATE.
UM, BUT WHAT, THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS THAT I APPROACHED LIEUTENANT HINOJOSA TO DO THIS FOR US, WAS GET OUT THERE AND FIND OUT WHAT OUR, WHAT WE'RE MISSING, WHAT OUR BLIND SPOT IS.
AND THAT'S REALLY WHAT WE NEED FROM THIS ADVISORY COMMITTEE.
WHO ARE YOU BRINGING TO US THAT CAN STAND UP HERE AND TALK AND CAN TELL US, HEY, THESE ARE SOME OF THE THINGS I WOULD LIKE TO SEE.
AND IT, IT DOESN'T ALWAYS NEED TO BE SOMETHING THAT'S NEGATIVE.
JUST HAVE YOU THOUGHT ABOUT DOING THIS? OR EVEN GIVES US AN OPPORTUNITY TO IDENTIFY PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITY WHO WOULD LOVE TO VOLUNTEER WITH OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT, WHO WOULD LOVE TO ASSIST THEM OKAY.
IN GETTING OUT INTO THE COMMUNITY.
THAT, SO LET'S, THAT'S WHAT THE ADVISORY COMMITTEES FOR POLICE OFFICERS YEAH.
FOR POLICE DEPARTMENT SHOULD BE DOING.
[5. NEXT MEETING]
LET'S, LET'S, LET'S SET THIS, UM, LET'S SET THE NEXT MEETING, UH, FOR MAY THE 24TH, WHICH WILL BE OUR, OUR VPAC MEETING HERE, IF YOU DON'T MIND, LIEUTENANT, IF YOU WILL.JUST, WE, WE APPRECIATE EVERYTHING YOU PUT INTO IT.
JUST LET US KNOW AS SOON AS POSSIBLE WHEN YOU'RE READY FOR THAT, THAT GATHERING WITH, WITH YOUR, WITH YOUR TEAM.
THAT WAY WE CAN AT LEAST GET A MONTH OUT AND BE ABLE TO ASK, ASK YOU GUYS QUESTIONS AND, UH, AND GO FROM THERE.
IF I MIGHT JUST MAKE A THOUGHT OR GIVE A THOUGHT HERE.
AND THAT IS THAT AS LONG AS YOU DON'T HAVE A QUORUM, YOU CAN GO TO EVENTS.
LIKE IF HE TELLS YOU HE'S GONNA BE AT THAT PARTICULAR CHURCH EVENT, YOU KNOW, TWO OR THREE OF YOU GUYS COULD STILL GO.
UM, YOU WOULD JUST MAYBE WANNA MAKE SURE YOU'RE, YOU'RE NOT GONNA BRING A WHOLE BUNCH OF PEOPLE.
AND YOU COULD STILL ALL GO, BUT YOU CAN'T TALK ABOUT CITY BUSINESS IF YOU GO, UH, IF THERE'S ENDS UP BEING Y'ALL, JUST IGNORE ME IF I'M THERE.
SO THAT, YOU KNOW, IT DOESN'T PROHIBIT YOU FROM GOING AND KIND
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OF SEEING SOME THINGS THAT THEY'RE DOING.BUT IF, IF YOU END UP WITH A QUORUM, THEN YOU CAN'T TALK ABOUT ANY CITY BUSINESS.
SO, UH, TO THE, TO THE POINT OF, UH, MAY THE 24TH MEETING, DO WE NEED TO VOTE? WE NEED A MOTION ON THAT.
MAY 24TH AT SIX O'CLOCK HERE IN THE CHAMBERS.
MS. YOLANDA GOT A ALL IN FAVOR? SAY AYE.
ALL OPPOSED? SAME SIGN AND IT'S CARRIED.
UH, SO IN TERMS OF GOING LIKE, UH, BY EVERY OTHER MONTH, WE DIDN'T AGREE ON THAT.
WE DIDN'T AGREE ON THAT YET, RIGHT? YEAH.
WE'LL, YOU AND I'LL NEED TO TALK.
WE'LL HAVE A, WE'LL HAVE A, UM, A TAG IN ON THAT AND WORK WITH MS. ANGIE AND ALL THAT.
DO I HAVE A MOTION TO ADJOURN? SO MOVED.
CHANCEY, RICHARD RICHARD'S SHAKING HIS HEAD AND ABOUT TO FALL AS SPEAK.
THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED AT 7 35 ON TUESDAY, APRIL 26TH.