Apr 05, 2022 BAYTOWN REDEVELOPMENT & TAX INCREMENT REINVESTMENT ZONE NO 1

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JOHN TURS AND,

[ CITY OF BAYTOWN NOTICE OF MEETING NOTICE OF JOINT BOARD OF DIRECTORS MEETING OF THE BAYTOWN REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY AND TAX INCREMENT REINVESTMENT ZONE NUMBER ONE, CITY OF BAYTOWN, TEXAS TUESDAY, APRIL 5, 2022 4:00 P.M. BAYTOWN CONFERENCE ROOM, CITY HALL 2401 MARKET STREET, BAYTOWN, TEXAS 77520 AGENDA CALL TO ORDER AND ANNOUNCEMENT OF QUORUM]

AND FIRST ITEM IS TO

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ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO SET.

I VOTE.

OKAY.

HAVE A MOTION TO HAVE A SECOND, MR. CARRIER.

ANY QUESTIONS? ANY COMMENTS? ALL, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

ALL THOSE OPPOSED AT SAME TIME? ALRIGHT, MOVING ON TO ITEM TWO DISCUSSION.

WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM TWO.

A.

WE'LL HEAR REPORT ON CEDAR BY EXPERT DEVELOPMENT PROGRAM.

GAR.

MR. CHAIRMAN, IF I MAY, UM, WE'RE WAITING ON THE GENTLEMAN WHO'S SUPPOSED TO BE SPEAKING ON THIS SUBJECT TO, HE'S NOT HERE AS OF YET.

WHAT I, UH, WHAT I'D LIKE TO SUGGEST IS IF YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND MOVE FORWARD TO OUR FINANCE DEPARTMENT, UM, ONTO, UH, THREE A.

OKAY.

UNTIL, UH, HAS EVERYBODY GOT, UH, ALRIGHT.

CANNINGTON.

OKAY.

ALRIGHT.

OKAY.

SORRY, MR. CHAIRMAN, I, I WOULD, UH, LIKE TO SUGGEST MOVING ON TO, UH, REPORT THREE A AND B FROM OUR, UH, FINANCE DEPARTMENT UNTIL THE GENTLEMAN WHO CAN SPEAK ON A COUPLE OF OTHER ISSUES ARRIVES.

OKAY.

ALRIGHT.

JUDGE, FOR HIM BEING TARDY SPEAKING MUST BE CHAIRMAN BROWNIES.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

SO YOU SHOULD HAVE RECEIVED AN UPDATE TO THE REPORT THAT WAS IN YOUR PACK, GIVEN YOU A FINANCIAL SNAPSHOT OF THE TOURS AS AT 31ST OF MARCH.

SO WHAT WAS HANDED OUT A LITTLE WHILE AGO IS THE ABSOLUTE LATEST TOTAL

[a. Receive a report from the Finance Department regarding the current financial position of the Tax Increment Reinvestment Zone Number One (TIRZ).]

AND IT'S FAIR TO SAY YOU ARE AN INCREDIBLY HEALTHY POSITION.

UH, YOU'RE SITTING ON FUND BALANCE OF, UH, A LITTLE UNDER 5.3 MILLION.

UH, WE ARE YET TO RECEIVE THE PAYMENT FROM HARRIS COUNTY THAT COMES IN LATER IN THE YEAR, BUT I KNOW THEY'RE GOOD FOR THEIR MONEY.

UH, CAN I INTERRUPT YOU JUST FOR AMONGST EXCUSE MA'AM.

PARDON? PARDON ME? JUST WANT TO MAKE A, JUST A NOTICE TO THE BOARD MEMBERS THAT THERE IS A RED LINE IN YOUR PACKET THAT HAS BEEN REPLACED WITH A, UH, VENUM HERE.

SO PLEASE REFER TO SEPARATE, SORRY, I APOLOGIZE FOR NOT MENTIONING THAT PREVIOUS FINANCIAL STATEMENT THERE ON THE VESTMENT INVESTMENTS ON SECOND PAGES OF, UH, THREE A IS THERE, IS BEEN REPLACED.

SO GO AHEAD.

I'M SORRY.

THAT'S OKAY.

SO AS I WAS SAYING, YOU HAVE A HEALTHY FUND BALANCE CURRENTLY OF A LOT LONGER, 5.3 MILLION.

UH, THE HOUSE COUNTY THET PAYMENT WILL COME IN, UM, LATER IN THE YEAR.

I'M ANTICIPATING THAT WILL BE, UH, AT LEAST ON BUDGET AND PROBABLY A LITTLE ABOVE.

HOW MUCH IS THAT 700? IT WAS 739,000 EXACTLY LAST YEAR.

I'M ANTICIPATING THIS YEAR WILL BE SOMETHING SIMILAR.

WE HAVE EXPENDED SOME FUNDS IN THE CURRENT YEAR.

IF YOU REMEMBER WHEN YOU SET YOUR BUDGET LAST YEAR, YOU HAD SET ASIDE ABOUT THREE AND A HALF MILLION FOR TOURS, IMPROVEMENTS THAT WERE YET TO BE IDENTIFIED.

SO REALLY WHAT I'M TELLING YOU IS YOU STILL HAVE THAT MONEY AND A LITTLE BIT EXTRA RIGHT NOW.

UM, I KNOW WE'LL HOPEFULLY BE TALKING ABOUT THE CLEAR BIO LYNCHBURG PROJECT LATER.

UM, I'M ANTICIPATING WE'RE GOING TO NEED TO APPLY SOME OF THOSE FUNDS FOR THAT PARTICULAR PROJECT, BUT YOU'RE IN VERY GOOD SHAPE TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT.

UH, ALSO ATTACH CHAIRMAN, UM, FOR YOUR EDIFICATION AND ENLIGHTENMENT, THE DETAIL OF ALL THE ACTUAL RECEIPTS THAT WE'VE HAD FROM GUSH CREEK SCHOOL DISTRICT WHO ARE OUR TAX COLLECTING AGENT.

I HAVE NOTHING FURTHER CHAIRMAN TO ADD.

HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS ON THE FINANCIALS IF THAT WOULD HELP.

OKAY.

ALRIGHT.

ANY, UH, ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS ON

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ALRIGHT, WE'LL, UH, GO AHEAD AND CONTINUE ON.

JUST WAIT UNTIL, UH, TIME TO, UH, DISCUSS THREE A OR EXCUSE TWO A.

YEAH, WE CAN, UM, GO TO THREE.

GO

[c. Receive and discuss a report on the creation of a 2nd Tax Increment Reinvestment Zone encompassing properties on the south side of Baytown.]

SO HOPEFULLY HE WILL SHOW UP.

UM, I WILL TRY TO GIVE YOU, IF HE DOES NOT SHOW UP SOME OF THE INFORMATION THAT I HAVE ON ITEMS A AND B.

UM, BUT TO DISCUSS A SECOND TAX INCREMENT REINVESTMENT ZONE, WHAT I HAVE MADE AT LEAST ONE PROPOSAL RIGHT NOW TO COUNCIL AND MANAGEMENT ON IS THE NEED FOR A SECOND ZONE TO BE CREATED ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE CITY.

AND, UH, THAT DOES HAVE TO BE APPROVED BY COUNCIL FIRST, BUT THE CITY MANAGER SUGGESTED I MAKE A PRESENTATION TO YOU GUYS THAT THIS WILL PROBABLY BE COMING DOWN THE PIKE IN THE NEXT ROUGHLY 30 TO 60 DAYS.

IN ESSENCE, WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS, UH, FROM WEST MAIN STREET, UM, FROM, UH, 1 46 ALL THE WAY OVER TO WIMER, MAYBE JUST A LITTLE EAST OF WIMER.

WE HAVEN'T DEFINED THE ACTUAL TERRITORY YET.

AND THEN HEADING SOUTH, UM, ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE WATER.

SO WE WANT TO ENCOMPASS EVERYTHING THAT IS WEST OF CEDAR BAYOU AND AND TO THE WATER IN THAT AREA, INCLUDING BAYLAND ISLAND.

THE REASON THAT WE BELIEVE THIS IS IMPORTANT RIGHT NOW IS THERE'S GONNA BE A LOT OF RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT THAT WILL OCCUR ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE CITY.

UH, MOST OF IT IS ALREADY IN THE CITY LIMITS.

THERE ARE VERY FEW POCKETS THAT REMAIN OUTSIDE OF THE CITY IN HARRIS COUNTY, BUT WE DON'T HAVE SERVICES DOWN IN THAT DIRECTION.

WE NEED TO RECTIFY THAT MANNER FOR OUR IN CITY RESIDENTS.

UM, SO PART OF THIS PROCESS HAS BEEN WE'VE ENGAGED KIMLEY HORN TO DO AN ANALYSIS OF THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE CITY TO, UH, THEY'RE DOING TWO THINGS FOR US ACTUALLY.

THEY'VE BEEN NOTIFYING US OF WHAT UTILITIES EXIST AND WHAT DON'T.

AND BASED ON OUR FUTURE GROWTH ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE CITY, WHAT IS GOING TO BE NEEDED.

THAT INCLUDES WATER, SEWER, UH, SOME POTENTIAL STORM WATER, UH, NEEDS AND CERTAINLY ROADS THAT WILL NEED TO BE EITHER CREATED OR WIDENED AS THE CITY GROWS THAT DIRECTION.

THE REASON THAT IT'S IMPORTANT FOR THE CITY IS WE BELIEVE RIGHT NOW THAT, AND WHEN YOU LOOK ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF HOUSTON ON THE MAP, UM, YOU WILL NOTICE THAT THERE'S VERY, ANY VERY, UH, RARE DIRT LEFT THAT SOMEONE COULD BUY AND DEVELOP ON, ESPECIALLY FOR HOUSING STOCK.

AND WE BELIEVE THAT BEING SURROUNDED BY WATER AND OTHER AMENITIES THAT ARE ENVISIONED TO COME TO THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE CITY, THAT WE CAN GET SOME HIGHER END HOMES, WHICH HAS BEEN A COUNCIL GOAL FOR MANY YEARS DOWN THERE.

AND SOME OF THE PROPERTY OWNERS AND DEVELOPERS THAT I'VE TALKED TO HAVE ALL MENTIONED THAT THIS IS AN AREA THAT THEY BELIEVE WE CAN GET THAT SEMI-STATE TO A STATE PRODUCT CREATED.

SO KIMLEY HORNE HAS BEEN LOOKING AT THIS, UM, THROUGH THE EYES OF PUBLIC WORKS FOR THOSE PURPOSES AS WELL AS FOR SOME LAND PLANNING PURPOSES, WORKING CONCURRENTLY WITH THAT.

UH, BUT ON A SEPARATE PATH, MARTIN AND HIS TEAM THROUGH OUR PLANNING DEPARTMENT HAS ALSO BEEN, UH, LOOKING AT THE OVERALL LAND PLAN FOR THAT AREA.

AND WE ARE, UH, VERY CLOSE TO I THINK BEING IN AGREEMENT ON WHAT WE ARE ENVISIONING FOR THAT DIRECTION AND TO BE ABLE TO CREATE THIS AND GET IT INTO OUR NEW COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS SOMETHING THAT WILL BE NEEDED, UH, FOR THE CITY AS WE MOVE FORWARD.

AND HIS COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS GOING TO BE PRESENTED TO COUNCIL IN ROUGHLY SIX WEEKS OR SO.

SO BASED ON THAT AND THE OTHER AMENITIES THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT THAT COME TO THE SOUTH SIDE, AND I'VE GOT A DEVELOPER WHO'S WANTING TO BREAK GROUND ON SOME RESIDENTIAL PRODUCT, UM, FAIRLY QUICKLY, WE FEEL THAT A TOURS IS PROBABLY IN OUR BEST INTEREST TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN CONTROL THE CITY UTILITIES, THE CITY FUNCTIONS THAT WE NEED DOWN IN THE SET ON THAT SIDE OF THE CITY.

THE WAY THE PROCESS WOULD WORK IS I WOULD HAVE TO PRESENT IT TO COUNSEL FIRST.

COUNSEL WOULD HAVE TO AGREE TO IT, UH, TO CREATE THE TOURS.

THERE IS A, A PROTOCOL PERIOD THAT HAS TO GO THROUGH.

THE REASON WE ARE PRESENTING IT TO YOU IS IT HAS BEEN MY RECOMMENDATION TO, UH, MANAGEMENT AND WILL CERTAINLY BE MY RECOMME RECOMMENDATION TO COUNCIL THAT WE NOT CREATE A WHOLE NEW BOARD FOR THAT TS IT MAKES SENSE THAT Y'ALL ARE THE BOARD FORTS ONE AND THAT Y'ALL WOULD BE THE BOARD FORTS TWO.

THAT, THAT'S GONNA BE MY QUESTION.

YEAH.

SO IT'S, IT MAKES NO SENSE TO ME TO DO ANYTHING DIFFERENT AND THANKFULLY IRWIN IS SHOWING UP RIGHT NOW, SO I WILL TALK A LITTLE SLOWER UNTIL HE GETS IN HERE AND UM, NO, BUT THAT'S, THAT IS THE GOAL OUT OF THIS IS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN ASSIST YOU WITH,

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THERE'S NO REASON TO BRING ANOTHER BOARD ON HERE.

IT WILL MEAN THAT MEETINGS WOULD BE, YOU WOULD HAVE A TUR ONE MEETING AND THEN WHEN THAT IS, THAT MEETING IS GAVELED CLOSED, THEN WE WOULD GAVEL OPEN A NEW MEETING FORT TWO.

BUT THAT'S REALLY THE PRESENTATION ON THIS.

IT'S, UM, A LITTLE HIGH LEVEL RIGHT NOW, BUT UH, I DO BELIEVE IT'LL COME BACK DOWN TO EARTH HERE REALLY QUICKLY.

YES, SIR.

DO WE HAVE A LIMIT ON HOW MANY TURS WE CAN HAVE? NO.

OKAY.

BECAUSE WE TALKED ABOUT A TURS TWO LAST TIME WE MET ON THE NORTH SIDE OF TOWN.

YES.

SO THIS WOULD BE A TURS THREE POTENTIALLY.

YES.

THE THE TURS.

YES.

AND THIS WAS NOT, I WAS NOT PREPARED OR ABLE TO TALK ABOUT THIS POTENTIAL AT THAT POINT IN TIME.

THE SECOND TOURS THAT WE WERE CONSIDERING LAST TIME WAS BASED ON, UH, THE LARGE DEVELOPER ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE CITY WHO IS, UM, WANTING TO BUY 380 ACRES AND LEAVE IT, UH, IN THE ETJ AND ANNEX INTO THEIR MUD.

UH, WHICH IS, UM, A DISASTROUS THING FOR THE CITY BECAUSE IT PUTS A HARD CAP ON GROWTH OF OUR CITY ON THE NORTH SIDE FOREVER.

SO WHAT WE DISCUSSED WITH THEM WAS TO BE ABLE TO ANNEX THAT PROPERTY INTO THE CITY LIMITS.

WE COULD HELP THEM WITH A PIT, WHICH WOULD GET THEM THE SAME PLACE THEY NEEDED TO GO AS A MUD.

AND THEN THEY CAME BACK AND SAID, WELL, WE WOULD CONTRIBUTION AS WELL.

THE ONLY THING THAT WE WOULD'VE EVER CONSIDERED ON A TOURS ON THAT SIDE OF THE CITY WOULD'VE BEEN FOR THE SAME THING, UH, CITY INFRASTRUCTURE ONLY.

SO IF THERE WAS A COLLECTOR ROAD THAT NEEDED TO BE PUT THROUGH OR SOME, UH, DRAINAGE THAT WE COULD CONTRIBUTE TO TOURS, TO, THAT'S WHAT WE WOULD DO.

NOTHING ON SITE DEVELOPMENT THAT HAS SINCE BEEN, UH, PUT ON HOLD UNTIL THE END OF THIS MONTH UNTIL THEY COME IN FRONT OF COUNCIL.

BECAUSE WHAT THEY REALLY WANT US TO BE LEFT IN THE ETJ IN THEIR MUD.

YEAH.

SO I KNOW WE MAY HAVE TALKED ABOUT THIS BEFORE, BUT UH, WHEN THE TURS FIRST STARTED, THE PHILOSOPHY WAS DEVELOPERS WOULD COMMIT TO INFRASTRUCTURE AND THEY WOULD BE REIMBURSED THROUGH INCREMENT.

RIGHT.

AND IT LOOKS LIKE NOW THE TURS PHILOSOPHY IS THE CITY PUTS IN THE INFRASTRUCTURE FOR THE DEVELOPERS.

YEAH.

THIS IS KIND OF LIKE, HAS SWITCHED, UH, FROM ONE END TO THE OTHER.

SO IT'S NOT THAT WE ARE PUTTING IN THE INFRASTRUCTURE FOR THE DEVELOPERS.

WE KNOW THAT COMMON AREA, I CALL IT COMMON AREA.

UM, SO COMMON ROADS, A COLLECTOR ROAD THAT NEEDS TO GO THROUGH, FOR EXAMPLE, THAT IS GOING TO BE OWNED BY THE CITY WATER AND SEWER THAT NEED TO BE PUT INTO AREAS THAT WILL BE IN CITY RIGHT OF WAY THAT WILL FEED THESE DEVELOPMENTS.

UM, THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT WE ARE DISCUSSING.

BUT ANY TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT THAT'S GOING ON SITE TO SOMEONE'S PROPERTY, THEY'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR.

SO WE WOULD NOT RUN WATER AND SEWER TO SOMEONE'S RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT SO THEY COULD SPLIT IT OFF AND RUN IT TO THE HOUSE.

NO, I, NO, I AGREE WITH THAT.

BUT I THINK, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE, YOU KNOW, WHEN THE TURS FIRST STARTED THERE WASN'T ANY MONEY AND, AND NOW WE HAVE MONEY, BUT IF WE START UP A NEW TURS, IT DOESN'T HAVE MONEY.

CORRECT.

RIGHT.

SO I THINK WE TALKED ABOUT HOW THAT'S FUNDED, CORRECT.

UM, MDD WAS IT OR SOMETHING? I'M NOT SURE, BUT I MEAN, HOW'S THAT GONNA BE FUNDED? IT'S AN AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY AND THE TURS.

'CAUSE THE TURS DOESN'T HAVE ANY MONEY CORRECT.

TO, TO PUT THIS INFRASTRUCTURE IN.

YEAH, NO, NO.

YOU'RE CORRECT.

IT CAN BE FUNDED THROUGH A DEVELOPER DOING THE WORK AND THEN WE REIMBURSING THEM.

UH, IT COULD ALSO BE FUNDED THROUGH A BOND BEING TAKEN OUT ON BEHALF OF WHAT WE BELIEVE THE INCREMENT IS GONNA BE IN THAT TOUR AREA ONCE IT'S CREATED.

SO, UH, A BOND COULD BE SOLD, UH, IN THAT RESPECT.

SO THERE'S DIFFERENT WAYS THAT THE FINANCING OF THIS CAN WORK OUT.

WE'RE NOT THERE YET TO FIGURE THAT OUT.

UM, YOU KNOW, THIS CONVERSATION IS JUST ME YOU TALKING ABOUT FOR THE TURS TOO, FOR A SECOND TURS, CORRECT.

YEAH, YEAH.

SO ON THE SIDE.

CORRECT.

YEAH.

SO AS, AS WE GET DOWN THAT PATH, COUNSEL HAS TO APPROVE IT FIRST, AND ONCE COUNSEL APPROVES IT, THEN IT HAS TO GO THROUGH THE LEGAL MACHINE THAT IT HAS TO GO THROUGH TO BE CREATED.

AND THEN AFTER THAT, ONCE IT'S CREATED, THEN THE, UH, DEPENDING ON WHAT DEVELOPMENTS ARE GONNA COME ON AT WHAT TIME AND HOW MUCH MONEY IS NEEDED AT WHAT TIME, THEN WE CAN FIGURE OUT WHAT'S GONNA BE THE BEST, UM, FINANCIAL MECHANISM FOR THAT.

YEAH.

LIKE I SAID, I WAS JUST QUESTIONING 'CAUSE INITIALLY $0, ALL DEVELOPER MONEY GOING IN UP FRONT, RE THEY COME TO MEETINGS, GOT ANY MONEY YET, CAN I GET MY MONEY BACK? CAN I GET THE MONEY? AND THEY EVENTUALLY GOT PAID OFF AND SO I DIDN'T KNOW IF, YOU KNOW, THAT'S THEIR SKIN IN THE GAME.

RIGHT.

SO WE GO PUT ALL THIS INFRASTRUCTURE IN, THEY STILL DON'T HAVE ANY SKIN IN THE GAME.

WELL, THEIR SKIN IN THE GAME WOULD BE GOING VERTICAL ON THEIR PROPERTY.

THEY DON'T HAVE, WE'RE CERTAINLY NOT GONNA COMMIT TO PUTTING ANY INFRASTRUCTURE IN IF THEY'RE NOT MOVING DIRT AS WELL.

IT'S THE SAME THING WE'RE EXPERIENCING RIGHT NOW IN SAN JATO BOULEVARD WHERE WE DO HAVE PEOPLE TALKING TO THE PROPERTY OWNERS AS WELL AS ME ABOUT, UM, BUILDING PROJECTS UP THERE.

BUT, UH, THEY'RE KIND OF WORKING WITHIN OUR TIMEFRAME TO

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AND OF COURSE, AS I GO BACK TO THEM, I SAY, WE'RE NOT GONNA PUT ANY INFRASTRUCTURE IN UNTIL WE HAVE PLANS FROM YOU THAT YOU'RE GONNA GO VERTICAL.

SO IT IS A LITTLE CHICKEN AND EGG.

RIGHT.

WHICH IS GONNA COME FIRST.

FIRST.

THIS HAPPENED OUT ON THE NORTH SIDE OUT WITH THE PARK ON, WELL THE AREA OUT ON VILLE, WE WERE IN, WE WERE TOLD THAT THAT WAS GONNA BE A DEVELOPMENT OUT ON THE WEST, EXCUSE ME, ON THE EAST SIDE OF MAIN STREET ON VILLE.

AND THEN CHEVRON ENDED UP PURCHASING THE LAND AFTER THE, UH, THE BUYER AFTER WE HAD GONE THROUGH AGREEMENT AND ALL.

SO, AND WE DIDN'T PUT ANY MONEY INTO THAT, BUT RIGHT.

IT WAS, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE IT WAS IN THE TURS AND THEN IT WAS OUT OF THE TURS.

RIGHT.

NO, I UNDERSTAND.

I'M JUST TALKING PHILOSOPHY AND I KNOW THAT 20 YEARS LATER PHILOSOPHY, YOU KNOW, WE'RE IN A DIFFERENT PLACE.

YEAH.

THANKFULLY WITH THE CURRENT TURS, WE ARE IN A VERY GOOD POSITION BECAUSE A COUPLE OF THE PROJECTS THAT, UH, WHEN WE CLOSE OUT OF MY REPORT ON THIS RIGHT NOW, UM, WE CAN GO TO IRWIN AND HE CAN UPDATE YOU, UH, OR MATTHEW CAN UPDATE YOU ON THE CEDAR BY LYNCHBURG PROJECT AS WELL AS A LITTLE BIT MORE IN THE PHASE ONE ENGINEERING LOS SAN JA BOULEVARD.

UM, BUT WE ARE IN A GOOD FINANCIAL POSITION TO WORK ON THOSE PROJECTS AND TO START THINKING ABOUT HOW WE'RE GONNA MOVE THEM FORWARD AND, UH, THE TIMEFRAME WITHIN WHICH WE CAN MOVE IT FORWARD.

YEAH.

SO I KNOW IN THE LAST MEETING, PAUSE HAD QUESTION OR HAD BROUGHT UP THE POINT OF MAKING SURE THE VALIDITY OF ALL OF THE TURS AND ALL.

SO IS THAT WHAT KIMLEY HORN IS GOING TO BE DOING? OR IS DO WE STILL NEED TO NO, WE WILL STILL BE USING UMTS CONSULTANT, UH, AND TURS COUNCIL TO HELP US THROUGHOUT THAT PROCESS.

KINLEY HORN IS REALLY DOING THE ENGINEERING AND LOOKING AT THE PROPERTY.

DON'T HAVE ANY ASPECT OF THAT? NO, I, I THINK THEY'RE AWARE.

I BELIEVE WE MADE THEM AWARE THAT WE'RE THINKING ABOUT PUTTING A TOURS ON THAT SITE, BUT IT REALLY HAS NO IMPACT ON WHAT THEY DO.

ALRIGHT.

ANYTHING OTHER THAN THAT? NO, SIR.

OKAY.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ALRIGHT.

QUESTIONS BOARD.

ALRIGHT.

OKAY.

ARE WE READY THEN TO

[a. Receive and discuss a report on the Cedar Bayou Lynchburg project. ]

ALRIGHT.

IWIN, I APOLOGIZE.

WE WERE GIVEN FOUR 30.

SO , HERE'S THE, UM, CURRENT SEGMENT OF THE, UM, CEDARBURG PROJECT.

OKAY.

WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW ON THE PROJECT IS, UH, WE'RE FINALIZING THE AGREEMENT BETWEEN US, THE COUNTY, WITH ALL THREE SEGMENTS.

UH, WE HAD AN AGREEMENT ON THE, UH, FINAL, UM, FORMAT THREE WEEKS AGO.

AND, UH, FRANK REVIEWED IT AND APPROVED IT AND IT WAS GOING TO REVISIONS BACK TO THE COUNTY MAKERS REVISIONS AND THEY MADE A LAST MINUTE CHANGE THIS WEEK AND FRANK HAS GOT TO REVIEW THAT AND, UM, WHAT I HAVE HERE, SORRY MAYOR, I DID NOT SEE YOU HERE.

OKAY.

UM, ANYWAY, UM, SO WHERE WE ARE IS WE'RE FRANK'S GONNA REVIEW THAT, UH, REVISION.

IT'LL GO TO LEGAL AND HOPEFULLY IT'LL BE ROUTED, UH, TO, UH, BE APPROVED.

SO, UH, RIGHT NOW THE PROJECT HASN'T TOTALLY KICKED OFF.

THE DESIGN CONSULTANTS ARE RUNNING IT IN THE COUNTY, BUT CURRENTLY, UH, WE'VE GOTTA GET OUR AGREEMENT THROUGH THE CITY.

SO THAT'S WHAT THAT IS CURRENTLY RIGHT NOW, THESE ARE THE THREE SEGMENTS.

THERE'S A, UM, IT'S A, B, AND C OR IS IT A YEAH, A, B, AND C.

AND THOSE ARE THE SEGMENTS CURRENTLY AS THEY HAVE THE PROJECT LAID OUT.

IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS, , CHAIRMAN, IF, IF I MAY, IRVIN, COULD YOU GIVE US INDICATION OF THE FUNDING THAT WE MAY BE NEEDING FROM THE JUROR TO GO TOWARDS THIS PROJECT? I HAD 2.7 BILLION IN MY HEAD.

I HAVE NOT SEEN THE FINAL ESTIMATE.

UM, THE AGREEMENT JUST CAME IN THIS MORNING, I MEAN, LITERALLY THIS MORNING.

UH, SO I HAD NOT REVIEWED IT AT THIS POINT, BUT, UH, WE CAN FORWARD IT TO YOU SEE IT.

YEAH.

YEAH.

THAT'S, THAT'S A FIGURE I HAD HIM THE HEAD, SHE IF AROUND 2.7 TO 3 MILLION, WHICH AS I SAID EARLIER, YOU'RE, YOU'RE IN A GOOD POSITION TO, TO CONTRIBUTE IF THAT'S HOW MUCH IT IS.

OKAY.

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SO THEY HAVE AREAS THAT CONTRIBUTE TO FLOW.

IS WHAT THOSE ARE, THAT'S WHAT THEY LOOK LIKE TO ME.

SO THIS IS ALL, THIS WOULD BE IN THE GOOSE CREEK WATERSHED, WHICH IS RIGHT HERE IN THE MIDDLE.

THESE ARROWS GOING THAT WAY.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS.

THOSE ARE BREAK POINTS ON THE ROADS.

SO THEY'RE TRYING TO CONTRIBUTE TO THE DIFFERENT SEGMENTS IS WHAT THEY'RE DOING.

OKAY.

SO, OH, THAT'S JUST SEGMENTS.

BUT THESE ARROWS AREN'T, AREN'T FLOW.

THEY COULD BE FLOW DIRECTION.

YEAH, FLOW DIRECTION.

SO I THINK THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE DOING IS THEY'RE TRYING TO PULL THE WATER, PUT HIGH POINTS IN THE ROAD AND PULL THE WATER IN THE A'S GOING THAT WAY AND B'S GOING THAT WAY.

MM-HMM.

AND THERE'S NOT A, A OUTFALL, I DON'T KNOW WHERE IT GOES UNTIL I GET DESIGN.

I COULDN'T TELL YOU WHAT THEY'RE DOING EXACTLY.

.

SO IF YOU TAKE A LOOK AT THE EAST PART, UM, FOR OUTFALL A, UM, JUST TO THE SOUTH.

YEAH.

UM, IT, THERE'S THE, THE LETTERS THERE, OH 5 0 0 DASH ZERO TWO DASH ZERO ZERO, THAT'S AN EXISTING HARRIS COUNTY FOOT CONTROL POND THAT THEY ALREADY HAVE BUILT.

AND SO THIS PROJECT, UH, PART OF THIS PROJECT IS TO INCREASE ITS CAPACITY IN ORDER TO, UM, PROVIDE, UH, THE DETENTION, SOME OF THE DETENTION NECESSARY.

I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THEY HAVE ALL OF THE, UM, SPECIFIC DETENTION AREAS DELINEATED ON HERE.

AT LEAST I CAN'T TELL WHERE THEY'RE AT.

UM, BUT ANYWHERE WHERE YOU SEE THE, UM, IT SAYS A AN ACRE FOOT, LIKE A, JUST ABOVE WHERE IT SAYS SEGMENT A ONE TO THE RIGHT OF OUTFALL C IT SAYS 14.2 ACRE FEET.

UM, YOU CAN'T REALLY SEE IT THERE.

BUT UNDERNEATH THAT LABEL THAT SAYS 14.2, THAT'S WHERE THEY'RE PUTTING DETENTION.

YES, SIR.

JUST UNDERNEATH THAT LABEL IT WAS FOR, SO ARE WE JUST REVIEWING THIS OR IS THIS UP FOR A VOTE RIGHT NOW? THIS IS JUST WHERE LAYOUT OUT HERE, IT'S AN UPDATE.

IT'S JUST, IT'S ON, ON THIS.

YES.

YOU TALKED ABOUT FUNDING FROM THE TURS 2.7 MILLION OR SO.

SO WHAT WAS THE TOTAL TURS AMOUNT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW? UH, CURRENTLY, CURRENTLY AVAILABLE.

DO YOU HAVE OVER, UH, 5 MILLION? CURRENTLY? THIS IS 2.7.

WE TALKED ABOUT SOME ON THE SOUTH FOR FIRST TWO THOUGH, CORRECT? CORRECT.

THAT WOULDN'T COME OUT OF THIS JUST SOLELY FOR THIS.

WHAT ABOUT THE, ALL THE NEW DETENTION WORK UP ON THE NORTH END OF SAN BOULEVARD? THAT'S ALL SOMET FINANCIAL COMMITMENT AS WELL, RIGHT? YES.

YES.

THEN THAT'S, UH, WITH ABOUT TWO POINT WELL REMEMBER AS WELL WE'RE GONNA BE TALKING TO HARRIS COUNTY ABOUT, OF THEIR INCREMENT WE CAN USE AS WELL.

SO, UM, IT'S PART OF THE DISCUSSION THAT WE NEED TO HAVE WITH THEM.

WHAT'S THE COUNTY'S, UH, PORTION OF THIS? I DID NOT LOOK, REVIEW THE, THE AGREEMENT WITH YOU.

2.7 MILLION.

YEAH, I WAS JUST CURIOUS WHAT THE, WHAT THE RATIO WAS.

I WAS GOING LET FRANK ACTUALLY TALK ABOUT THAT DURING THE, UH, FEEL COMFORTABLE CHAIRMAN.

AND THIS IS REALLY JUST TO GIVE YOU ALL THE HEADS UP AND GET YOU THINKING ABOUT IT.

WE'LL COME BACK WITH A LOT MORE DETAIL BEFORE WE MAKE ANY COMMITMENTS.

OKAY.

AND THE SEQUENCE RIGHT NOW IS WE'RE CURRENTLY TRYING TO EXECUTE AN AGREEMENT IS WHAT WE'RE, SO THERE'S NO MONEY ON THE TABLE AT THIS POINT.

.

SO THIS, ALL OF THIS, THE DRAINAGE IS HERE.

MM-HMM .

SHOULD HANDLE THE WIDENING THAT'S GOING TO TAKE PLACE, CORRECT? YES, THAT IS CORRECT.

BECAUSE I KNOW THERE'S SOME ISSUES OUT THERE NOW MM-HMM .

WITH RESIDENTS THAT I, EVEN AFTER HAVING GOTTEN OFF COUNCIL, I'VE BEEN CALLED ABOUT AND YES, IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S ENCOMPASSING ALL THIS AREA FOR DRAINAGE.

THOSE ARE THE DRAIN, NOT JUST THE WIDENING, BUT THE WHOLE MM-HMM .

ALL THIS AREAS AND THE DRAINAGE.

YEAH.

THAT WAS THE, THAT'S A LOT OF IMPROVEMENT.

YEAH.

I THINK ERWIN, IF YOU DON'T MIND EXPLAINING TOO, THAT HARRIS COUNTY IS LOOKING A LOT MORE BROADLY IN THAT ENTIRE AREA FOR DRAINAGE PURPOSES AS WELL.

CORRECT.

THAT WAS A PART OF THE PARTNERSHIP PROJECT THAT WE'RE WORKING ON.

OKAY.

ALRIGHT.

ANY, UH, ANY COMMENTS? AND I APOLOGIZE TO THOSE MEMBERS THAT ARE ON, UH, ZOOM, THAT ZOOM IN, UH, NOT OFFERED AN OPPORTUNITY TO, FOR YOU TO WEIGH IN ON

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PLEASE DO SO IF YOU HAVE ANY, ANY QUESTIONS, ANY COMMENTS? I'M NOT SURE ANYBODY ZOOMED IN.

UH, WELL, ANGIE HAD GIVEN ME A LIST HERE OF, UH, A COUPLE FOLKS WHILE AGO THAT WAS, I'M NOT SURE WHO ALL WAS, I CAN'T REMEMBER.

I THINK SHANNON WAS, WAS ONE OF THE ONES.

UH, I KNOW BRENDA, MS. SMITH IS NOT ABLE TO, UH, BE HERE IN PERSON AND KNOW HER ON ZOOM, BUT I BELIEVE SHANNON WAS.

BUT ANYWAY.

OKAY.

ANY, ANY FURTHER ISSUES ON THE ITEM TWO A? ALRIGHT ON TWO B THEN?

[b. Receive and discuss a report on the San Jacinto Boulevard Phase I Engineering and Property Purchases for Drainage and Roadway Extension.]

UH, IT'S STILL GONNA NEED SOME CHANGES WHEN YOU GET DOWN NEAR THE BUCKY'S.

UM, THERE'S SOME, UH, ISSUES WITH FLOOD CONTROL HAS A EXTREMELY WIDE CHANNEL.

UM, SO WE'RE GONNA GET ANY IMPROVEMENTS FOR DRAINAGE ON GOOSE CREEK.

UH, WE'RE GONNA NEED CLOSER TO 400 FEET OF RIGHT OF WAY SO THAT PROJECT'S GONNA GET WIDER.

UH, THE REASON IS, IS THE SOIL IS EXTREMELY UNSTABLE AND UH, USUALLY FOUR TO FIVE TO ONE SLOPES ARE USUALLY PRETTY GOOD.

UH, THESE SOIL SLOPES ARE MORE IN THE SIX PLUS RANGE FOR SIX TO ONE BECAUSE THE SOIL IS SO UNSTABLE.

SO, UM, THE, TO GET THE PERMIT, THE PROJECT PERMITTED FOR THE FLOOD THROUGH CORE, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO DO A NATURAL STABLE CHANNEL DESIGN, WHICH I'VE WORKED WITH VERY FAMILIAR, VERY FAMILIAR WITH THE DESIGN.

IT ACTUALLY IS SELF MITIGATING FOR THE COMPENSATING IMPACTS TO THE STREAM THAT THE CORE REQUIRES YOU TO GET PERMITTED.

AND SO THEY IMPROVE, THEY PUT THOSE IMPROVEMENTS IN THERE AND IT REQUIRES RIGHT OF WAY TO DO THAT.

SO, UH, FOR THOSE IMPROVEMENTS FOR GOOSE CREEK, UM, IT'S GONNA TAKE CLOSER TO 400 FEET.

SO, UM, MOST OF THAT AREA IS IN THE FLOOD PLAIN, SO IT'S NOT THAT BIG OF LOSS.

TOTALLY.

UM, BUT AT THE SAME TIME THAT IS, THOSE CHANGES ARE NOT REFLECTED ON HERE.

THOSE ACTUALLY WERE, CAME THROUGH LAST WEEK IN A MEETING WITH, UM, FLOOD CONTROL.

SO THEY ARE NOT REFLECTED ON HERE.

WE DID MARK IT UP AND SEND IT TO 'EM.

I BRIEFED BRETT SO HE'S AWARE OF IT.

UM, WE HAVE CONCERNS AS CITY ABOUT WHAT IMPACTS THAT HAS TO THE PROPERTY, BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, THE MASTER PLAN, WHAT HAS, HAS IMPROVEMENTS FOR, UH, THIS IS AN ENTIRE AREA NORTH OF 10 ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE CONFLUENCE OF 1 46.

SO THE IMPROVEMENTS ARE QUITE, UH, REGIONALLY IMPACTED.

SO WE HAVE TO MAKE DECISIONS ON WHAT WE WANT TO SUPPORT.

SO THOSE ARE, I'M LETTING, I'M LETTING EVERYBODY KNOW , THAT'S WHAT THAT DOES.

SO I'LL PASS THESE OUT.

UM, THIS IS THE ORIGINAL MAP AND THEN HERE'S THE, UH, NEW ONE AND I'LL PASS THOSE AROUND SO YOU ALL HAVE A COPY OF THE, THE RIGHT OF WAY.

UM, IT DOES IMPACT JUST LIKE WE ORIGINALLY HAD ANTICIPATED, UM, THEY, UH, COME BACK.

NO, YOU GO AHEAD ANYWAY.

UM, MINE OTHER ONE.

SO WHAT WE'RE DOING RIGHT NOW IS WE, WE WERE GONNA COVER THAT.

UM, WE'RE GONNA NEED THE DRAIN, WE'RE GONNA NEED IMPROVEMENTS FOR TWO THINGS.

UM, WE'RE GONNA NEED IMPROVEMENTS FOR, UM, THE DRAINAGE AND THE RIGHT OF WAY, WHICH THE DETENTION PONDS AREN'T SHOWN ON THIS RIGHT OF WAY.

STRIP MAP, WHICH IS ONE OF THE THINGS WE'VE ASKED FOR THEM TO ADD.

AND THEY'RE WORKING ON THAT.

UM, THERE'S A DEVELOPMENT THAT'S PENDING FAIRLY QUICKLY, WHICH IS THE SCHOOL, UM, GOOSE CREEK ID UP THERE AT, UH, STS DENTISTRY AT I 10, UH, CREEK'S ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICE.

IS THERE AN ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICE? THEY WANT TO EXPAND THAT ONTO THE FIRST TRACK JUST SOUTH OF THERE, WHICH IS DISTRICT, UH, IT'S IN THE, UH, TURS.

UM, THAT PROPERTY IS ELIGIBLE FOR THE REGIONAL DETENTION, WHICH MEANS THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO HAVE THE

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SO YOU WOULD HAVE TO GET OVER TO THE FIRST PONDS AND GET OUT TO THE AAL TO THE, UH, GOOSE CREEK.

SO THOSE ARE GONNA HAVE TO MOVE FORWARD FAIRLY QUICKLY.

AND SO THE RIGHT OF WAY IS GONNA BE THE NEXT COMPONENT TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN.

IT ALSO IS THE NEXT COMPONENTS TO MAKE OVERLAY WORK.

SO, UH, WE WANTED TO PASS THAT ON.

IT'S ACTUALLY THIS TRACK RIGHT, RIGHT THERE IN THAT CORNER.

YEAH.

AND SO, UM, THAT'S WHAT WE WANTED TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT TODAY IS REALLY KIND OF THE NEXT CRITICAL PATH.

UM, NOT ONLY TO HELP THE GOOSE CREEK GUY STEVE, BUT ALSO HELPED OVERLAY AND HELP THE PROGRESS OF THIS WHOLE TURS TO MOVE FORWARD.

SO, UM, WE'RE STILL WORKING UP THOSE NUMBERS.

THAT CONVERSATION LITERALLY JUST HAPPENED, I MEAN, LITERALLY A WEEK OR SO AGO.

I MEAN LIKE 10 DAYS.

SO THAT'S WHERE THAT'S AT.

SO WE'LL GIVE YOU AN UPDATE OF WHERE WE ARE, WHERE WE'RE MOVING FORWARD, FORWARD AND THOSE NUMBERS ARE BEING PREPARED.

WE'LL HAVE THEM BACK TO YOU.

BUT THAT IS A PRIORITY FOR US.

IN ADDITION TO GOOSE CREEK WANTING TO EXPAND THEIR FACILITY, IF YOU LOOK UNDER PHASE THREE, THE, UH, MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT THAT IS THERE, UM, WE DO HAVE THE, THE SELLERS OF THE PROPERTY DO HAVE SOMEONE WHO IS VERY INTERESTED IN BUYING IT AND GETTING UNDER CONTRACT.

THEY'VE BEEN TALKING TO ME FOR ALMOST THE THREE YEARS THAT I'VE BEEN HERE ABOUT PUTTING A PROJECT UP IN THAT AREA.

UH, THEY WERE GOING TO BE ON HUNT ROAD, BUT AS THEY SAW THE NEW LAYOUT AND WHAT WE PROJECTED TO BE A MULTIFAMILY UP NEXT TO THE AMENITY POND THAT WE'RE CREATING IN THAT, UH, CITY CENTER AREA, THEY HAVE OPTED TO MOVE THAT DIRECTION.

SO THEY'RE, THEY'RE WAITING ON OUR PHASE ONE ENGINEERING TO GET COMPLETE AND THEN HOW WE STEP FORWARD INTO THE NEXT MOVEMENT OF THAT AREA.

UM, AND THEN THEY WILL GET UNDER CONTRACT OR THEY'LL GO HARD MONEY ON THE, ON THE 14 ACRES THAT THEY NEED TO GO VERTICAL AS WELL.

BUT THIS IS OBVIOUSLY A BENEFIT FOR THEM BECAUSE IT'S CITY INFRASTRUCTURE OR YOU KNOW, PAID FOR THROUGH TOURS OF CREATING THESE AMENITIES UP IN THAT AREA, WHICH IS GONNA HELP US TO, UH, MOVE FORWARD WITH THE TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT THAT WE WANT TO SEE UP ALONG ANGELES CENTER BOULEVARD.

SO DID WE HAVE A MULTI-FAMILY DEVELOPMENT IN THE, THAT LITTLE AREA INITIAL PLANS? I MEAN, IS THAT, IS THAT WHAT YOU SAID? YES.

THAT, THAT, THAT HAS BEEN THERE SINCE DAY ONE WHEN WE MASTER PLAN THIS AREA A LITTLE OVER A YEAR AGO.

YEAH, I REMEMBER THE, THE WHOLE PRESENTATION OF THE, THE, THE POND AND THE WALKING THE RIVER AMENITIES YEAH.

AND ALL THAT.

I JUST, I I DON'T REMEMBER SPECIFICALLY THAT THERE WAS A MULTIFAMILY COMPLEX IN THAT, THAT SIDE OF THE POND.

YEAH.

THIS LAND PLAN HAS BEEN CONSISTENT THE ENTIRE TIME.

WE'VE NOT ALTERED THIS AT ALL.

CHANGE THAT MIGHT OCCUR NOW, DEPENDING ON HOW MUCH RIGHT OF WAY THE FLOOD CONTROL NEED FOR THE, THE CREEK IMPROVEMENTS AND HOW MUCH WE SUPPORT THAT PIECE MADE THE PULL BACK HOLE.

BUT SO YEAH, THIS DITCH, THIS DITCH RIGHT HERE SHOULD THE DITCH EVERYTHING SOUND RIGHT.

EVERYTHING ALONG GOOSE CREEK, UM, IS WHAT ERWIN IS DISCUSSING RIGHT NOW WHERE WE'RE GOING TO BUILD THE MAIN MASTER LAKE OF ABOUT 30 ISH ACRES.

THIS CREEK, UH, EXCUSE ME, THE UH, DRAINAGE AUTHORITY HAS NOW COME IN AND SAID THAT THEY NEED MORE ROOM OFF OF GOOSE CREEK, WHICH IMPACTS WHAT WE ARE ATTEMPTING TO DO.

BECAUSE IF YOU RECALL, WE'VE GOT HARRIS COUNTY TRANSIT SERVICES WHO IS WAITING ON US TO START THIS PROJECT SO THEY CAN CREATE THE PARKING LOT SO THEY CAN MOVE THEIR, UM, TRANSPORTATION SERVICE DOWN OVER THERE.

WHICH OF COURSE WE ALSO NEED TO EXTEND OR START THE EXTENSION OF, UM, UH, THE ROAD.

UH, WHAT, WHAT'S THAT ROAD? LONE STAR.

LONE STAR, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

WOW.

UH, TO, TO START THE EXTENSION OF LONE STAR ROAD, THAT DIRECTION FROM THE WEST SIDE OF BUCKY'S.

BUT DEPENDING ON HOW MUCH OF THAT DIRT THAT THEY HAVE TO EAT UP FOR ANY TYPE OF EASEMENT, IT PUTS US INTO A DIFFERENT CONVERSATION NOW WITH THE PROPERTY OWNERS WHO ARE VERY WILLING TO WORK WITH US TO CREATE LONE STAR THROUGH THERE.

UH, BECAUSE THEY ANTICIPATED GETTING A PAD SITE NEXT TO BUCKY'S NOW WITH THIS NEW EASEMENT, UM, OR EXTENSION OF RIGHT OF WAY THAT THE DRAINAGE AUTHORITY NEEDS THAT COULD SEVERELY IMPACT WHAT WE'RE ABLE TO DO ON THE WEST SIDE OF BUCKY'S.

AND I'VE NOT HAD THAT CONVERSATION YET WITH THE PROPERTY OWNERS TO FIND OUT WHAT THEY'RE GONNA BE WILLING TO DO OR NOT.

UM, WE'RE HOPEFUL THAT THEY WILL STILL WORK WITH US ON MOVING FORWARD WITH WHAT WE'VE SHOWN AS A MASTER PLAN.

BUT THERE IS OBVIOUSLY NO GUARANTEE IT BEING THAT IT'S IN PRIVATE PROPERTY HANDS.

SO THAT'S BECAUSE OF THE PROJECT WE TALKED ABOUT LAST TIME.

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IT WAS, IT'S THE START OF THAT PROJECT THAT'S CAUSING YEAH.

IT IT'S BE MOVED.

SO IRWIN YEAH.

JUST FOUND OUT, I MEAN ODDLY ENOUGH, LIKE THIS LIGHT SHADED AREA, UHHUH, THIS IS WHERE THEY KIND OF NEED THIS ADDITIONAL AMOUNT OF RIGHT OF WAY, RIGHT.

WHERE WE WERE ANTICIPATING HAVING A ROAD RIGHT HERE.

UH, WE MAY LOSE THAT 'CAUSE WE WANTED TO HAVE LONE STAR AND A PAD SITE AND IT SOUNDS LIKE NOW BECAUSE OF THE RIGHT OF WAY, ASSUMING WE AS THE CITY SUPPORT IT AND WE MIGHT NOT, WE COULD LOSE ONE OF THESE.

OKAY.

AND IF WE LOSE ONE, WE DON'T WANT TO LOSE THE ROAD, WE WOULD LOSE THE PAD SITE.

AND OF COURSE THEN THE OWNERS OF THE PROPERTY ARE GONNA WANT MORE MONEY FOR THAT.

SURE.

'CAUSE IT'S MORE VALUABLE TO THEM AS A PAD SITE.

SO YEAH, THIS, AS ERWIN SAID, THIS JUST CAME UP ABOUT 10 DAYS AGO.

HE PRESENTED IT TO ME.

UM, I'VE HAD ONE 10 GENTLE CONVERSATION WITH CITY MANAGEMENT ABOUT IT, BUT NOTHING IN DEPTH AS OF YET.

UH, 'CAUSE WE'RE WAITING UNTIL WE GET A LITTLE FURTHER DOWN THE ROAD TO A NEAR COMPLETION ON THE WHOLE PHASE ONE ENGINEERING.

'CAUSE WE'RE STILL TRYING TO FIGURE OUT IF, UM, CALIBER COLLISION, UH, IF THEIR OWNERSHIP IS WAY TO MOVE THROUGH, ALLOW US TO MOVE THAT ROAD THROUGH THERE, WHICH MAKES MOST SENSE.

SO, SO IT, IT WON'T REQUIRE RELOCATING CALIBER COLLISION ESSENTIALLY WE, THERE IS THE POTENTIAL THAT IT WILL NOT, BUT IT ALL DEPENDS ON WHAT THE MANAGEMENT, THE OWNERSHIP GROUP OF WHAT CALIBER, WHAT THEY WANT TO DO.

AND THAT OWNERSHIP GROUP ALSO OWNS THAT LITTLE ROAD THAT RUNS IN BETWEEN CALIBER AND THE TWO DEALERSHIPS.

THAT'S A PRIVATE ROAD.

SO THEY WOULD HAVE TO DEDICATE THAT TO US AS WELL.

SO I KNOW THAT, UM, EHRA HAS BEEN WORKING ON THIS, HAS HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH THAT OWNERSHIP GROUP.

I DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT'S HAPPENING OF THOSE ARE.

SO AS YOU CAN TELL, THERE'S A LOT OF MOVING PIECES AND UM, THE UM, UM, HOUSTON CREEK IMPROVEMENTS I'M TALKING ABOUT ALSO SUPPORT TWO OTHER PROJECTS, UH, FLOOD CONTROL'S WORKING ON, WE HAVE A JOINT VENTURE ON THE TRACK RIGHT OVER HERE.

YEAH, IT'S RIGHT HERE.

THERE'S A TRACK RIGHT THERE RIGHT ACROSS FROM THE GUN RANGE THAT WE'RE BOTH TRYING TO ACQUIRE FOR A SECOND POND AS PART OF THE MASTER PLAN.

AND THERE'S ONE THEY'VE ACQUIRED JUST, UH, NORTH OF ROLLING BROOK AND IT'S OFF MAP, BUT IT'S JUST OFF.

THERE'S NORTH OF ROLLING BROOK THAT ALSO IS A POND THEY'RE CURRENTLY DESIGNING AND THEY OWN THE PROPERTY.

UM, SO THERE'S SEVERAL PONDS THAT ARE COMING UP.

GOOSE CREEK JUST SOUTH OF HERE THAT WILL TIE IN AS A TRAIL, POTENTIALLY GO UP DOWN THE EAST SIDE OF GOOSE CREEK AND WE TIE ALL THIS TOGETHER GOING OFF TO 10 AND THAT'S ALL IN THE WORKS.

SO IN PRECINCT TWO, BACK IN WARNING THAT TRAIL COUNCIL, UM, YOU SHOULD HAVE A LOT OF IMPROVEMENTS COMING IN THIS AREA AT ONE TIME.

, MAN, I SAY IT DOES SOUND LIKE THERE'S A LOT OF ACTIVITY TAKING PLACE.

SO HOW QUICK, HOW QUICKLY IS GOOSE CREEK OR THE SCHOOL DISTRICT PUT MOVE ON, ON THIS? UM, WITH A CONVERSATION THAT FRANK HAD WITH THEM, THEY WERE LOOKING AT PROBABLY ACQUIRING, THEY HAD AN OFFER ON THE PROPERTY AVAILABLE THAT DAY SO THEY COULD POSSIBLY CLOSE ON IT FAIRLY QUICKLY AND THEN THEY WOULD WANT TO START CONSTRUCTION.

THEY SAID HOPEFULLY WITHIN THE YEAR, UH, MAKING SURE WANT AND CAN ARE TWO DIFFERENT.

EXACTLY.

WE'VE HAD SOMEBODY WANTING TO BUILD SOMETHING THERE A COUPLE, TWO OR THREE YEARS AGO AND THEY COULDN'T YEAH.

AND SEVERAL TIMES ACTUALLY WITH THE OVERLAY THAT CURRENTLY EXISTS AND WITH THE MASTER PLAN THAT WE'VE PUT TOGETHER AND NOW WITH THE, THE, UH, PHASE ONE ENGINEERING, UM, YEAH, THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL THAT GETS DONE AND Y'ALL APPROVE IT.

CITY COUNCIL APPROVES IT, WHICH MEANS STAFF HAS TO APPROVE IT.

SO WE WANNA WORK WITH OUR FRIENDS AT GOOSE CREEK AS QUICKLY AS WE CAN, BUT YES, THAT'S THEIR, THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE BUYING CORNER.

YES SIR.

COME IN THERE AND THEN I CAN'T REMEMBER WHAT ANOTHER HOTELS COME IN TRYING TO GET THERE AS WELL IN THAT SAME CORNER.

WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN AMENITY DETENTION AND A REGULAR ONE? UH, AMENITY USUALLY HAS WHITE BOTTOM OR HAS SOME OTHER RECREATIONAL FEATURE, UH, WHERE JUST DETENTION CAN JUST BE A HOLE ON THE GROUND THAT YOU MOW.

WELL, THE AMENITY DETENTION, IT CAN DRY UP.

UH, MOST IT CAN, MOST AMENITIES DETENTION HAVE SOME OF THEIR AMENITY.

IT COULD BE A RECREATION, IT COULD BE A PARK, IT COULD BE A OPEN FIELD, IT COULD BE MOST OF 'EM HAVE AMENITIES, HAVE WATER.

SO I THINK WE HAD PLANNED ON SOME OF THE AMENITY ONES HAVING ACTUALLY WATER IN ALL WITH THE, WITH THE LEVEL OF THE WATER TABLE IN THIS AREA, IT'S UNLIKELY THAT IT WOULD DRY UP, BUT FROM A TECHNICAL STANDPOINT, ABSOLUTELY.

BUT THEN AGAIN, SO COULD GOOSE CREEK AND GOOSE CREEK WOULD BE SEPARATE FROM THIS?

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THAT, UH, THE TENSION POND, THAT'S JUST ROUGH CEDAR BIO, BUT IT'S LIKE DRY ALL THE TIME.

MM-HMM .

SO HOW WOULD WE KEEP WATER IN THESE AMENITY DETENTIONS AND IF WE KEEP WATER, WILL THEIR CAPACITY TO HOLD DRAINAGE REDUCE? YOU HAVE TO DIG EXTRA DEPTH.

UM, DEPENDING ON THE SOIL CONDITIONS, YOU MAY HAVE TO PUT SOME CLAY LINERS IN 'EM TO HELP HOLD THE WATER OR CEMENT STABILIZE THE MATERIAL.

THE MATERIALS IN HERE ARE NOT REALLY SANDY, THEY'RE MORE A SILT, A REAL FINE SILT.

AND THAT'S WHAT THE STABILITY PROBLEM IS.

UM, SO WHAT THEY CAN DO IS THEY MAKE 'EM DEEPER.

IF YOU MAKE 'EM FIVE FEET DEEP STANDARD FOR FLOOD CONTROL, UM, THEY DON'T THROW THINGS ON THE BOTTOM AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO MOW EM.

THAT'S WHY THEY USUALLY DO THE WET BOTTOMS. THEY ALSO HAVE MORE STORAGE BECAUSE YOU HAVE A FLAT BOTTOM BECAUSE IT'S FLAT, BECAUSE IT'S, YOU KNOW, THE WATER LEVEL WHERE IF YOU HAVE A DRY BOTTOM, YOU ACTUALLY HAVE TO HAVE ALMOST 2% SLOPE ACROSS IT TO GET 'EM RIGHT.

SO YOU LOSE THE SIGNIFICANT VOLUME AND A DRY BOTTOM BOTTOM AND I DRIVE BOTTOM POND AND THE, UH, THE DISCHARGE FROM THE WET BOTTOM DETENTION POND, IT'S SET SO THAT THE WATER, THE THE CONSTANT WATER LEVEL, IT DOESN'T RISE UP.

YEAH.

SO IT DOESN'T TAKE AWAY FROM THE CAPACITY OF THE DETENTION.

IT STAY, IT'S GOT AN OVERFLOW TYPE THING ON IT.

SO THAT'S WHERE THE AMENITY COMES IN.

AND THEY USUALLY WET IN THERE ALL THE TIME.

IT'S OUR ANTICIPATION RIGHT NOW, FOR EXAMPLE, THAT IF YOU LOOK AT PHASE TWO WHERE WE HAVE THE AMENITY LAKE AND THE LAZY RIVER IS THAT WE WILL RECIRCULATE THE WATER THROUGH THOSE AREAS JUST BY PUMPING IT THROUGH MUCH LIKE THEY DO IN SAN ANTONIO WITH RIVERWALK.

UM, IT'S JUST RECYCLED WATER ALL THROUGH AND UH, OBVIOUSLY THOSE WATER LEVELS CAN GO UP OR DOWN DEPENDING ON WEATHER EVENTS, BUT, UH, I'M NO ENGINEER SO I CAN'T TELL YOU WHAT THE DEPTH WE WOULD WANT TO MAINTAIN IN THAT AREA, BUT WE WOULD PROBABLY KEEP TWO FEET, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

WE WANT IT TO BE A NICE ATTRACTION IN THAT AREA, UM, AND HAVE THE LAZY RIVER TO ACTUALLY RUN WITH SOME WATER, NOT DRY UP IN PARTICULAR SEASONS BECAUSE THERE'S NOTHING ATTRACTIVE ABOUT THAT.

SO AS FAR AS CREATING THESE AMENITIES, YEAH, THAT IS OUR GOAL RIGHT NOW IS TO BE ABLE TO CYCLE IT THROUGH.

I KNOW THIS IS JUST A, A DRAWING, BUT THE, THE LITTLE WHITE DOTS, THOSE INDICATE AIR IBLE AREA AIRS.

YES.

THAT'S WHAT KEEP THE ALGAL BLOOMS FROM OCCURRING.

YES, THAT'S CORRECT.

THAT'S TO KEEP THE VEGETATION FROM OVERTAKING IT AND THIS ALL ON ROAD AND PHASE ONE, THAT LAKE, WHICH IS ROUGHLY ABOUT 30 ACRES LEAD TO ANTICIPATE RIGHT NOW, UH, CREATING A CITY PARK OR HAVING A TRAIL SYSTEM AROUND IT.

AND AS YOU CAN SEE, THERE'S UH, WE ANTICIPATE HAVING SOME TYPE OF LITTLE DOCK ON THERE SO WE COULD HAVE PADDLE BOATS OR SOMETHING THAT MAKES IT A TRUE AMENITY FOR THE CITY.

UH, THE REASON THAT THAT BECOMES A BENEFIT FOR US IS AGAIN, BECAUSE HARRIS COUNTY TRANSIT SERVICES IS WILLING TO WORK WITH US ON CREATING THEIR PARKING RIGHTS SITUATION DOWN THERE, WHICH HELPS US TO OFFSET THE COST OF THE PARKING LOT.

AND YES, THEY WILL USE THEIR SERVICES SEVEN DAYS A WEEK, BUT RIGHT NOW THEY'RE ONLY PARKING ROUGHLY 50 VEHICLES A DAY.

UH, SO THE PARKING LOT WILL BE LARGE ENOUGH FOR OUR RESIDENTS TO BE ABLE TO GO UP THERE AND BE ABLE TO PARK THEIR VEHICLES AND GO OUT AND ENJOY THE, UH, LAKE AMENITY AS WELL.

AND OUR PARKS DEPARTMENT WAS GONNA, THEY WANT THAT TRAIL SYSTEM TO GO ALL THE WAY UP TO VILLE ROAD AND THEN GO DOWN VILLE POTENTIALLY TO GARTH TO TIE INTO THAT TRAIL SYSTEM.

SO THAT WAS THE LAYOUT THEY'RE LOOKING AT.

AND UH, PRECINCT TWO IS GONNA HELP WITH SOME OF THAT DOWN THAT POND BY ROLLING BROOK AND THE CITY WOULD'VE TO DO SOME OF IT AS WELL.

SO THERE'S A LOT OF POTENTIAL.

I'VE ALREADY VOICED A FLOOD PATROL.

WE WOULD LIKE THE AREA RESERVE, WE A TRAIL COULD BE PUT IN, UM, WHETHER THE CITY IS A FUTURE DECISION.

ALL RIGHT.

BOARD.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMENTS BE PRETTY NICE ON THIS? NO CRYSTAL BALL BUT EXPECTED TIMEFRAME FOR SOME AMENITIES TO APPEAR LIKE WE DO A LOT OF WANT AND PLANNING AND DRAWINGS AND, UH, ERWIN OR MATTHEW, ANY IDEA FROM EHRE WHETHER THEY'RE GONNA FINISH UP? I MEAN WE GAVE 'EM ROUGHLY A SIX MONTH WINDOW AND WE GOTTA BE PUSHING ABOUT FIVE.

UH, I THINK THEY'RE AT FOUR, SO THEY HAVE, I THINK THEY'RE DUE IN MONTHS, SO, UM, HOPING TO HAVE SOMETHING FAIRLY SOON.