Feb 10, 2022 CITY COUNCIL WORK SESSION

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[ CITY OF BAYTOWN NOTICE OF MEETING CITY COUNCIL WORK SESSION THURSDAY, FEBRUARY 10, 2022 5:30 P.M. HULLUM CONFERENCE ROOM, CITY HALL 2401 MARKET STREET, BAYTOWN, TEXAS 77520 AGENDA CALL TO ORDER AND ANNOUNCEMENT OF QUORUM ]

SO WE HAVE ITEM ONE A.

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[a. Receive and discuss possible development options from Lennar Development as it pertains to the potential acquisition of approximately 300 acres of land stretching from the east side of Garth Road to Hadden Road and north of Wallisville Road.]

WE HAD BRETT, I BELIEVE, AND THEN OTHERS FROM FRIENDSWOOD DEVELOPMENT.

YES, SIR.

THANK YOU, MAYOR COUNCIL.

GOOD EVENING.

UH, AS YOU KNOW, OUR FRIENDS FROM FRIENDSWOOD PUN INTENDED, UH, CAME IN TO VISIT WITH YOU GUYS ABOUT TWO MONTHS AGO TO DISCUSS THIS POTENTIAL OF, UM, ACQUIRING THIS PROPERTY, DOING AN EXPANSION PROJECT, UH, INTO THEIR ETJ MUD.

UH, WE HAVE HAD, THROUGH STAFF, WE'VE HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH THEM AS WELL AS, UH, ABDI SEEN OUR CONSULTANT ON THE PI SIDE, UH, ABOUT HOW WE COULD POTENTIALLY DO THIS AS AN ANNEXATION PROJECT INTO THE CITY AND A PI AND EVEN POTENTIALLY A PIT AURS.

AND, UM, THEY WANTED TO COME BACK IN AND MEET WITH YOU GUYS AND HAVE A FURTHER DISCUSSION ABOUT, UM, THE ABILITIES OF KEEPING THIS IN THE ETJ AND PUTTING IT IN YOUR BUDGET.

SO I'M GONNA TURN THE PRESENTATION OVER TO THEM AND LET THEM TALK TO YOU.

THANK YOU, BRETT MAYOR, COUNCIL STAFF.

I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME TALK TO THE COLLECTIVE GROUP TONIGHT.

UH, AS BRETT HAS MENTIONED, WE HAVE MET MULTIPLE TIMES WITH STAFF, AND ADMITTEDLY, THE PRESENTATION IS BEING GIVEN TONIGHT WITHOUT THEIR SUPPORT FOR THE ETJ MUD ANNEXATION.

BUT, UH, I TRULY BELIEVE THAT THE PROJECT THAT WE ARE PROPOSING TODAY IS A WIN-WIN FOR EVERYONE IN THE SENSE THAT WE CAN BUILD A BETTER COMMUNITY THROUGH THE EXISTING E-T-A-E-T-J MUD STRUCTURE FOR OUR HOMEOWNERS.

THE CITY, UH, WILL ACTUALLY GAIN MORE BENEFIT THROUGH THIS STRUCTURE THAN IN A PIT TURS COMBINATION, UH, EVEN THE SCHOOL DISTRICT.

UH, IT AFFORDS US THE OPPORTUNITY TO WORK WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT AND BE MORE FLEXIBLE ON A STRUCTURE OF A POTENTIAL NEW ELEMENTARY SCHOOL IN THIS AREA OF, UM, BAYTOWN.

SO I'D LIKE TO WALK THROUGH, UM, YOU KNOW, BRIEFLY THIS PRESENTATION.

UH, QUICK INTRODUCTION TO THE EXPANSION TRACK ITSELF, AS YOU SAID.

UH, AS BRETT SAID, YOU KNOW, WE WERE HERE IN DECEMBER, UH, AT THE COUNCIL MEETING WITH A FORMAL PRESENTATION, BUT VERY LIMITED DISCUSSION AT THAT TIME.

UH, YOU KNOW, THE ALTERNATIVES ANNEXATION INTO OUR EXISTING ET DAVE MUD VERSUS CITY ANNEXATION WITH A PIT TURS COMBINATION FOR THE FINANCING OF, OF THE PROJECT.

UH, I HAVE A LIST OF CONCERNS AND PROPOSED SOLUTIONS THROUGH THE MEETINGS WITH STAFF AND, AND, UM, THE COUNCIL PRESENTATION THAT WE MADE, AND ALSO INDIVIDUAL MEETINGS WITH SOME COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT I WANT TO ADDRESS HEAD ON.

UM, AND THEN, UH, WALK THROUGH SOME EXPANDED PROJECTS, LISTS THAT WE CAN OFFER THROUGH THIS ETJ MUD, UM, THAT WE CAN IN OTHER, UH, FINANCING STRUCTURES.

SO ULTIMATELY END WITH THE REQUEST FOR YOUR SUPPORT, UH, TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE ANNEXATION INTO THE MUD.

SO, UM, WHAT WE HAVE THERE TODAY, FOUR YEARS AGO, UM, YOU KNOW, IN JANUARY OF 2018, WE SUBMITTED AND, AND RECEIVED CITY APPROVAL TO ESTABLISH A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AND STRATEGIC PARTNERSHIP AGREEMENT BETWEEN HARRIS COUNTY MUD TWO 13 A AND THE CITY.

UM, SINCE THEN, TWO YEARS LATER, WE GRAND OPENED OUR FIRST TWO COMMUNITIES, UH, ON THE 520 ACRES AND HAVE SOLD 400 HOMES, UM, SINCE THAT OPENING.

UH, IT HAS QUICKLY BECOME THE LEADING COMMUNITY IN THE BAYTOWN AREA BY ANNUAL STARTS AND CLOSINGS.

SO PROVING UP THE QUALITY OF STANDARD THAT WE'VE ESTABLISHED THROUGH THAT PARTNERSHIP.

UM, THE MARKET IS ACCEPTING IT.

UH, HERE ARE SOME QUICK SNAPSHOTS OF ENTRY, MONUMENTATION, ARCHITECTURE OF HOMES, PLAYGROUNDS THAT EXIST IN THE TWO EXISTING COMMUNITIES WE'RE ACTIVELY DEVELOPING TO OPEN IN APRIL AND MAY OF THIS YEAR.

OUR THIRD AND LARGEST, UH, CONSISTING OF ABOUT 870 HOMES AND OUR FOURTH AND SMALLEST, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD OF THE FOUR PLANNED ON THE ORIGINAL 500 ACRES.

UM, YOU CAN SEE FROM THIS MAP, THE LOTTED OUT PORTION BETWEEN HANEY ROAD AND GARTH ROAD IS THE EXISTING HARRIS COUNTY MUD TWO 13 A BOUNDARY THERE TO THE RIGHT EAST OF GARTH, UM, IS THE EXPANSION TRACK THAT WE'RE DISCUSSING.

378 TOTAL ACRES, UH, YOU KNOW, PLAN FOR CURRENTLY 1,015 HOME SITES, UH, SUBJECT TO DRAINAGE IMPACT ANALYSIS AND THE STANDARD, UH, PLAN SUBMITTALS THROUGH THE CITY PROCESS AND COUNTY PROCESS.

YOU KNOW, AS I SAID, THROUGH MEETINGS WITH STAFF PRESENTATION OF THE COUNCIL MEETING AND MEETINGS WITH FOUR OF THE SEVEN COUNCIL MEMBERS, WE HEARD SEVERAL CONCERNS ABOUT

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UM, FIRST AND FOREMOST, WE HEARD, YOU KNOW, A HESITATION TO USE A TURS, UH, FOR GREEN DEVELOPMENT INSTEAD OF THE REDEVELOPMENT OF BLIGHTED AREAS.

AND A SOLUTION THAT I, YOU KNOW, CLEAR SOLUTION WOULD BE NOT TO USE A TURS STRUCTURE, BUT RATHER ANNEX INTO THE EXISTING HARRIS COUNTY MUD TWO 13 A, WHICH IS AN ESTABLISHED DISTRICT WITH EXISTING BOARD MEMBERS.

IT'S NOT A INTRODUCTION OF ANOTHER AUTHORITY THAT THE CITY WOULD HAVE TO COMBAT WITH.

IN FACT, I DON'T, I'M NOT AWARE OF ANY COMBATING THAT EXISTS TODAY BETWEEN THE TWO, UH, PARTIES.

BUT, UM, THERE'S EXISTING SERVICE AGREEMENTS.

WE'LL WALK THROUGH SOME TERMS AND CONDITIONS, UH, HERE IN A BIT, AND THERE'S CONFIRMED QUALITY STANDARDS.

SO ABOVE AND BEYOND.

UM, YOU KNOW, FOUR YEARS AGO WE UNDERSTOOD THAT IN ORDER TO GET THIS STRUCTURE, THE PROJECTS LIST HAD TO GO ABOVE AND BEYOND THE ARCHITECTURE.

THE HOMES HAD TO GO ABOVE AND BEYOND THE BUILDER GUIDELINES THAT SET LANDSCAPE REQUIREMENTS HAD TO GO ABOVE AND BEYOND IT.

AND THAT'S WHAT WE CAPTURED IN THOSE AGREEMENTS AND, AND ARE DELIVERING TO THE MARKET TODAY.

UH, AGAIN, IT'S A SUCCESSFUL PARTNERSHIP AS EVIDENCED BY THE HOME SALES AND THE NUMBER OF, UM, YOU KNOW, NEW PEOPLE MOVING TO THIS BAYTOWN NORTH AREA.

UM, THE MARKET LIKES IT.

YOU KNOW, A SECOND CONCERN THAT WE HEARD THROUGH THESE MEETINGS IS PUTTING A PHYSICAL CAP ON, ON CITY GROWTH TO THE NORTH.

THIS TRACK IS 378 ACRES, STRETCHES TWO MILES WIDE.

UM, IF I GO BACK TO THIS MAP, YOU KNOW, THERE'S CONCERN THAT IF WE, IF WE ALLOW ANNEXATION INTO THE ETJ MUD, THAT THAT WOULD PROHIBIT THE CITY FROM GROWING TO THE NORTH BEYOND OUR BOUNDARY.

AND A SOLUTION THAT WE'VE WORKED WITH SEVERAL OTHER JURISDICTIONS AROUND THE GREATER HOUSTON MARKET IS A FIVE FOOT, YOU KNOW, ANNEXATION STRIP.

WE WOULD AGREE DAY ONE TO ALLOW A LONG NORTH MAIN BOULEVARD FROM THE CITY'S CURRENT NORTHERN LIMITS OF THEIR JURISDICTION, AN ANNEXATION STRIP ALONG NORTH MAINE THAT TAKES US TO AND THROUGH OUR PROPERTY.

WE DON'T WANT TO BLOCK ANNEXATION OR, UH, THE CITY GROWTH.

WE WANT TO DELIVER HIGH QUALITY GROWTH THAT THE CITY THEN ADOPTS, YOU KNOW, THROUGH THE STRATEGIC PARTNERSHIP AND, AND FUTURE ANNEXATION.

UM, YOU KNOW, ALSO THROUGH OUR EXISTING AGREEMENTS OR, OR EXISTING MUD, WE'VE ALREADY COMPLETED A LIMITED PURPOSE ANNEXATION, UM, WHERE THE CITY CAN, CAN TAKE ADVANTAGE OF CITY SALES TAX PROVIDED THERE, UH, WITHOUT ANY OBLIGATIONS OF THIS LAND BEING WITHIN THEIR ACTUAL CITY LIMITS.

UH, AGAIN, WE'VE DONE THIS IN ROSENBERG, WE'VE DONE THIS IN , WE'VE DONE THIS IN ALVIN IN THE PAST, YOU KNOW, A THIRD CONCERN CITY PROVIDING SERVICES WITH NO TAX REVENUE.

SO PROVIDING WATER AND SEWER SERVICES OUTSIDE THE BOUNDARIES OF, OF THE CITY'S JURISDICTION.

AND HONESTLY, THE TERMS AND CONDITIONS, YOU KNOW, THAT WE'VE ESTABLISHED WITH THE EXISTING DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, UTILITY SERVICE AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE MUD AND CITY ARE, ARE MORE FAVORABLE THAN WHAT WE WOULD, WE WOULD BE ABLE TO DO IN AN IN-CITY PITT COMBINATION.

THE, THE MUD PAYS A 25% MARKUP ON THE CITY WATER AND WASTEWATER IMPACT FEES THAT IT USES.

THERE IS A METER AT EVERY ENTRY TO EACH ONE OF THE FOUR COMMUNITIES THAT WATER VOLUME IS CALCULATED, AND A 25% MARKUP IS ADDED TO THAT USE.

SAME ON THE, ON THE WASTEWATER.

25% MARKUP ON THE IMPACT FEES.

YOU KNOW, CURRENT IMPACT FEES ARE $5,125 PER HOME.

WE PAY A 25% MARKUP ON THAT THROUGH THE MUD.

THE MUD THEN, YOU KNOW, IS COMPLETELY RESPONSIBLE FOR ALL THE MAINTENANCE OBLIGATIONS WITHIN THEIR BOUNDARY.

YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE A HIRED LICENSED ENGINEER, UM, TO MONITOR MAINTENANCE OF THE WATER SEWER, DRAINAGE FACILITIES WITHIN THEIR BOUNDARIES.

THROUGH THE SPA, WE ESTABLISHED A MINIMUM TAX RATE CLAUSE WHERE THAT THE MUD WOULD HAVE TO MAINTAIN A TAX RATE ABOVE THE CITY'S CURRENT TAX RATE BY THE O AND M PORTION OF THE DISTRICT'S TAX RATE, SO THAT WHEN IT COMES TIME TO ANNEX, IT WOULD BE A SMOOTH TRANSITION.

THERE WOULDN'T BE A HUGE TAX RATE JUMP.

UM, YOU KNOW, WE CONTEMPLATED ALL OF THESE THINGS WHEN WE ESTABLISHED OUR AGREEMENTS BACK IN 2018, AND WE WANT TO CARRY THAT FORWARD.

UM, ADDITIONALLY, YOU KNOW, REMAINING IN THE ETJ RESIDENCE WITHIN HARRIS COUNTY MUD TWO 13 A WOULD ALSO PARTICIPATE, YOU KNOW, 10 CENTS PER 100 FOR FIRE AND EMERGENCY SERVICES THROUGH HARRIS COUNTY EMERGENCY SERVICE DISTRICT THREE.

UH, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU, WHEN YOU ADD UP THE 25% MARKUP ON IMPACT FEES ON 1,015 HOMES, AND THAT'S THE TUNE OF $1.3 MILLION THAT THE CITY WOULD COLLECT THAT THEY OTHERWISE WOULD NOT ON A

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YOU KNOW, BASED ON AN AVERAGE UTILITY BILL OF A HUNDRED PER MONTH PER HOME.

FINANCIALLY THE CITY IS BETTER OFF IN AN ETJ MUD ANNEXATION THAN THEY WOULD BE IN A PI TURS COMBINATION WHERE 90% OF THE TAXES FROM THE TURS WOULD HAVE TO BE, WOULD GO BACK TO REINVESTMENT INTO THESE PROJECTS.

ADDITIONALLY, BEYOND THE CONCERNS, WE UNDERSTAND THAT THROUGH THIS STRUCTURE AND THIS MORE EFFICIENT FINANCIAL STRUCTURE, THERE HAS TO BE THERE CONSIDERATION GIVEN TO REGIONAL PROJECTS, PROJECTS THAT GO ABOVE AND BEYOND JUST THE BOUNDARIES OF OUR COMMUNITY.

THERE'S THREE HERE.

I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT, YOU KNOW, THAT WE ARE PROPOSING THAT WE DO WITH THE ETJ MUD ANNEXATION.

THAT'S A REGIONAL DRAINAGE CHANNEL, AN EIGHT FOOT LIT PEDESTRIAN TRAIL THAT WOULD CONNECT CL THREE ELEMENTARY JUST ACROSS THE STREET FROM OUR ASPHALT COVE ENTRANCE TO GOOSE CREEK MEMORIAL HIGH SCHOOL ON NORTH MAIN, A MILE LONG EIGHT FOOT TRAIL BALLARD LIGHTING.

THAT REALLY BECOMES A, A KEY PORTION OF THE REGIONAL TRAIL PLAN FOR THIS, THIS AREA, FUTURE BAYTOWN.

UM, A MAP THERE LOOKS AT THAT.

OUR EXISTING DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT REQUIRES US TO BUILD EIGHT FOOT TRAILS ALONG GARTH ROAD.

WE'VE DONE THAT IN ASBELL COVE, WE'VE DONE THAT ALONG WALLACE FIELD.

WE WOULD DO THAT HERE WITH THIS COMMUNITY AS WELL.

TIE THAT INTO THE REGIONAL TRAIL SYSTEM AND THIS AREA, THIS WHOLE AREA BECOMES WALKABLE.

SECONDLY, MUCH LIKE WE DID ON GARTH ROAD WITH A FOUR LANE BOULEVARD EXTENSION THAT STARTED AT STRIPES, WE TOOK IT PAST GOOSE CREEK LANDING AN IN CITY PI COMMUNITY UP TO OUR FRONT DOOR THROUGH OUR MAIN INTERSECTION.

IT WAS A OVER A THREE AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS PROJECTS FINANCED SPECIFICALLY BY US AS THE DEVELOPER.

UM, THAT ADDS BENEFIT TO MORE THAN JUST RESIDENTS WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY.

WE WOULD DO THE SAME THING FOR THE 2000 FOOT, UH, EXPANSION OF NORTH MAIN.

CURRENTLY THAT FOUR LANE BOULEVARD DIVIDED BOULEVARD ENDS ABOUT MIDWAY THROUGH THE HIGH SCHOOL TREK.

WE WOULD BRING THAT TO THE NORTH, EXTENDING PAST THE MAIN ENTRY INTO OUR NEW COMMUNITY.

AND FINALLY, I MENTIONED EARLIER THE ETJ MUD STRUCTURE ALLOWS US TO LEVERAGE THE BASE OF ADVIL WARM VALUE THAT WE'VE ESTABLISHED WITHIN THE FIR, YOU KNOW, INITIAL 514 ACRES AND APPLY SOME OF THAT BENEFIT TO THESE 378 ACRES THAT WE OTHERWISE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO DO.

YOU KNOW, GOOSE CREEK CONSOLIDATED HAS CONTACTED US MULTIPLE TIMES, VERY INTERESTED IN IDENTIFYING ANOTHER ELEMENTARY SCHOOL SITE, AND WE WOULD LOVE TO WORK WITH THEM.

UM, THE ETJ MUD STRUCTURE AFFORDS US THE BEST OPPORTUNITY TO STRUCTURE THE BEST DEAL FOR THEM.

UM, SO WE WOULD LIKE, YOU KNOW, YOUR SUPPORT IN CONSENTING TO ANNEXATION INTO THIS ETJ MUD.

UM, WHAT THAT MEANS, UH, IT'S SIMPLY JUST AN AMENDMENT TO AN, A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT THAT ADDS ACREAGE AMENDMENT TO THE STRATEGIC PARTNERSHIP AGREEMENT THAT ADDS ACREAGE AMENDMENT TO THE UTILITY SERVICES THAT ADD PLANS, CONNECTION COUNTS, YOU KNOW, WITH THOSE DOCUMENTS.

WE WOULD CAPTURE THESE ABOVE AND BEYOND PROJECTS LIST, UM, JUST LIKE WE DID IN 2018.

WE WOULD ESTABLISH, OR WE WOULD MAINTAIN THOSE SAME EXISTING QUALITIES, STANDARDS, LAND PLANNING, LANDSCAPING, ARCHITECTURE THAT WE HAVE BUILT WITHIN OUR ING AGREEMENTS THAT AGAIN, THE MARKET IS SHOWING TO US THAT THEY LIKE.

UH, I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME AGAIN TONIGHT AND WELCOME ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE GROUP? ANY QUESTIONS FOR QUESTIONS? I MEAN, CHEW FOOD, I'LL GO FIRST.

WHY NOT, RIGHT? WHY NOT? THAT'S WHY CHOSE HERE ARE MY COMMENTS.

AND I WAS ONE OF THE FOUR THAT THAT VISITED WITH REPRESENTATIVE LAMAR.

AND AS FAR AS THE BARRIER TO ANNEXATION OR, OR CAPPING GROWTH OF BLOCKING THE CITY, YOU KNOW, WITH THE ANNEXATION STRIP, IT SEEMS LIKE THAT CONCERN IS MITIGATED.

AND PERSONALLY, HAVING REPRESENTED AN OLDER AREA OF TOWN FOR SO LONG, AND, AND LAURA MAY HAVE SOME OF THESE SAME FEELINGS, I'M NOT OVERLY CONCERNED WITH ADDITIONAL ANNEXATION AND GROWTH.

I MEAN, WE HAVE SEWER OVERFLOWS

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WE HAVE A LOT OF PROBLEMS IN THE CITY, AS IS THAT SOMETIMES IT'S, IT'S OVERWHELMING.

THE FEELING IS WE CAN'T TAKE CARE OF WHAT WE HAVE ALREADY.

SO, YOU KNOW, TO ME, ANNEXATION IT IS JUST NOT A, A HIGH PRIORITY.

NUMBER TWO, THE, THE TOURS I DID CONTACT A TRADE ASSOCIATION, AND IT'S, TO MY KNOWLEDGE, THERE'S NOT ANOTHER CITY IN THE STATE OF TEXAS THAT'S DONE A PI OR COMBINATION.

SO IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE A BEST PRACTICE.

AND I HESITATE TO, TO ENTER IN TO A MECHANISM THAT'S NOT ONLY A, A NOT A BEST PRACTICE, BUT SEEMS TO GO AGAINST THE SPIRIT OF IT.

NOW I REALIZE JUST BECAUSE IT GOES AGAINST THE SPIRIT OF SOMETHING DOESN'T MEAN IT'S PROHIBITED OR, OR NOT LEGAL.

BUT THAT, THAT, THAT'S MY COMMENTS ON, ON THE COMBINATION.

ALSO, YOU KNOW, THEY STARTED THE PROJECT YEARS AGO.

I REMEMBER THE PRESENTATION AND WE WERE VERY EXCITED TO HAVE THE PROJECT TO DO TO APPROVE THE MUD.

AND, YOU KNOW, IT CHECKS ALL OF THE BOXES THAT, THAT WE PROPOSE WE'RE THE ONES THAT, THAT DEVISE THESE POLICIES, THAT WE DEVISE THESE POLICIES BASED ON A LOT OF DISCUSSION AND THOUGHT, YOU KNOW, WE GET BEHIND THEM.

SO WHETHER IT'S A A, A LARGE DEVELOPMENT LIKE THIS OR TRYING TO GET A PERMIT OR, OR WHATEVER IT IS, YOU KNOW, THE, THE RULE CHANGING KIND OF HALFWAY THROUGH THE GAME SEEMS TO OCCUR SOMETIMES.

AND THAT'S ALWAYS BEEN PROBLEMATIC.

AND I, FRANKLY, PERSONALLY, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE FINISHED THEIR PROJECT, THE WAY THEY STARTED IT.

AND, AND WITH THE MARKUPS ON THE UTILITIES AND THE AMENITIES, IT, IT JUST DOESN'T SEEM LIKE WE'RE, WE'RE LOSING MUCH AND WITH THE ANNEXATION STRIPS AS WELL.

AND SO, SO THAT'S WHERE I'M AT.

AND FIVE, SAY JUST ONE OF SEVEN, THAT'S WHERE I'M THANK YOU.

FROM STAFF.

IS THERE ANY SEEN THE PRESENTATION, I THINK I'VE SEEN IT BEFORE, BUT IS THERE ANY ADDITIONAL UNDERSTAND ANYTHING IN THAT THERE WAS INACCURATE OR, UH, NO, I WOULDN'T SAY THERE'S ANYTHING INACCURATE.

I MEAN, THIS HAS BEEN PRESENTED TO THE DEPARTMENT HEADS OF, UH, PUBLIC WORKS FINANCE, UH, PLANNING.

AND THERE ARE, AND OUR CONSULTANT OR PIT CONSULTANT, ABDI, WHO HAS LOOKED OVER THIS, UM, THERE ARE PROJECTS THAT ARE BUILT INTO THIS THAT HAVE DRIVEN THE COST UP, WHICH IS WHY ARE PRESENTED IT TO US.

UH, IT MADE IT SEEM TO BE UNTENABLE TO ANNEX INTO THE, THE CITY AND USE A PI.

AND THEN WE TALKED ABOUT A PIT TOURIST COMBINATION.

REGIONAL DRAINAGE IS NOTHING THAT WE'VE REQUIRED OF ANYBODY ELSE TO DO.

AND THE OTHER DEVELOPERS ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE CITY ARE NOT ASKING FOR.

UM, THROUGH OUR PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT, I'VE BEEN TOLD THAT THERE ARE ESSENTIALLY SOME ISSUES WITH THE HARRIS COUNTY DRAINAGE SERVICE ON THE EAST SIDE, UH, OF THE DEVELOPMENT ANYWAY, WHERE THEY, I DON'T KNOW IF Y'ALL HAVE REACHED OUT TO THEM OR NOT, BUT, UH, THEY'RE GONNA HAVE SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT HOW THIS WOULD ALL WORK.

UM, BECAUSE THEY HAVE DRAINAGE, CEDAR BAYOU, UM, THE UTILITIES AS FAR AS THE INCREASE, WE CHARGE EVERYBODY THAT WHO'S OUTTA THE CITY.

THE TRAIL SYSTEMS, AND GO BACK TO LAUREN FRIENDSWOOD WHEN THEY CAME IN AND DID THIS AGREEMENT WITH US FOUR YEARS AGO, IS THAT THEY DID HELP US TO INCREASE OUR STANDARDS.

SO EVERY, THE DEVELOPMENT THAT COMES IN BUILDS AN EIGHT FOOT TRAIL NOW BUILDS CONNECTIVITY.

SO WHAT THEY HAVE PROPOSED IS NOTHING THAT EVERYBODY ELSE ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE CITY ISN'T ALREADY DOING, THAT WE'VE ALREADY REQUESTED AND HAVE IN DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS THROUGH THE PIS, UH, THAT WE'RE WORKING ON NOW.

SO THAT'S NOTHING THAT IS NEW AND IMPROVING THIS, THIS PARTICULAR DEVELOPMENT ON NORTH SIDE OF THE CITY, WE HAVE TO CONSIDER.

IT ISN'T JUST ABOUT THE 380 ACRES THAT THEY WOULD BE BRINGING IN AND BUILDING ON.

UM, YES, THEY BUILD A NICE PRODUCT.

I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT THE PRODUCT AT ALL, BUT WHEN YOU GET INTO ALL THE ANCILLARY AREAS AROUND THE CITY, THE ROADWAYS, UH, WE WOULD ALREADY IMPROVE.

WE'VE ALREADY STARTED LOOKING AT, UM, ON GARTH AND JOHN MARTIN FOR EXAMPLE, WHERE WE EXPANDED THE TOURS TO FIX THOSE ROADS, TO WIDEN THOSE ROADS.

THAT'S THE COMMON AREA IMPROVEMENT STUFF THAT A CITY CAN DO AND WOULD DO.

ON THIS PARTICULAR SIDE.

WE HAVE ALREADY DISCUSSED INTERNAL CITY, THAT MAIN STREET DOES NEED TO BE WIDENED, BUT THAT ALSO GOES OUT TO ANY DEVELOPER WHO'S LOOKING TO GO INTO THAT AREA.

THEY WOULD HAVE TO DO A TIA TO FIGURE OUT, UH, WHAT TRAFFIC THEY WOULD BE DRIVING THAT AREA.

AND THAT WOULD DICTATE WHAT WOULD HAVE TO HAPPEN WITH THOSE ROADS.

SO THAT'S ALREADY BEING DONE WITH THE CASTLE ROCK PROJECT, FOR EXAMPLE.

UM, WHICH IS A PIT STATION INTO THE CITY ON THE NORTH SIDE.

UM,

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TRYING TO THINK.

WELL, THE ONLY THING I, I DIDN'T SEE ADDRESSED WAS THE, UH, IMPACT TO THE GLOBAL SYSTEM.

UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT JUST ROADWAY ADJACENT TO THEIR DEVELOPMENT.

UH, JUST THE INCREASE, UH, TRAFFIC FROM THE ADDITIONAL VEHICLES THAT WOULD BE THROUGH THE ENTIRE SYSTEM THAT WOULD NOT, YOU KNOW, THEY WOULD NOT BE CONTRIBUTING DIRECTLY TO PROPERTY TAX.

JUST THAT ONE.

AND I THINK LASTLY, IF I COULD, OUR, OUR PI STRUCTURE THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON FOR THE LAST TWO AND A HALF YEARS HAS BEEN SUCCESSFUL FOR OTHER DEVELOPERS.

WE'VE GOT THREE IN THE CITY NOW, INCLUDING CASTLE ROCK WHO DID ANNEX IN AND IS USING A P FOR THEIR DEVELOPMENT A FOURTH RIGHT NOW WITH KB HOMES.

AND ALL OF THOSE FOLKS HAVE BEEN ABLE TO COME INTO OUR CITY, DO THIS AND BE COMPETITIVE.

AND QUITE HONESTLY, THEY ALWAYS TELL US IS, YOU GUYS KNOW THIS AS THEY COMPETE WITH FRIENDSWOOD.

SO THAT IS THEIR COMPETITION.

UM, THEY'VE BEEN ABLE TO DO THAT WITH AN IN-CITY PI, UH, NO TOURS COMBINATION.

UM, THE, THE ONLY THING, AND AS WE TALKED ABOUT LAST TIME, IF WE DID A TOURS, IT WOULD BE FOR COMMON AREA IMPROVEMENTS ON THIS, WE WOULD NOT, UH, GIVE UP 100% OF THE INCREMENT.

AND OF COURSE, WE BELIEVE IF THE ROAD REPAIR AND THIS REGIONAL DRAINAGE WERE TAKEN OUT OF THEIR PROFORMA, THEN THEY WOULD NOT NEED TO BE ANNEXED INTO THEIR ETJ MUD.

THEY COULD ANNEX INTO THE CITY AND WORK A PIT AND BE COMPETITIVE WITH THEMSELVES AS WELL AS THE REST OF THE DEVELOPMENT.

AGAIN, THOSE ARE PROJECTS THAT WE DON'T REQUEST OF ANYBODY TO DO AND THERE'S NO BENEFIT TO ANYBODY ELSE ON THE REGIONAL SIDE, ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE CITY TO DO THIS DRAINAGE PROJECT EXCEPT FOR THEM AND THEIR AREA.

SO I TEND TO FAVOR PIS OVER ECJ MUDS.

NOT TO SAY I COULDN'T BE CONVINCED OTHERWISE, BUT THAT IS WHERE I LEAN TOWARDS.

I ALSO HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT THAT MANY PEOPLE BEING CONDENSED AND WHAT IT'S GONNA DO TO THE ROADWAYS UP THERE.

I LIKE THAT GARTH ROAD AND POTENTIALLY NORTH MAIN, UM, WOULD BE EXPANDED.

BUT I MEAN, WALLACE FIELD'S ALREADY, UM, A BIG ISSUE.

AND TO MY KNOWLEDGE, HARRIS COUNTY HAS NO PLANS TO EXPAND IT OR TO ALLEVIATE THAT.

AND WHILE WE CAN'T CONTROL IT, IT WOULD STILL BE VERY IMPACTFUL TO OUR CITIZENS.

ALSO, I THINK PUTTING A VERY COMPACT NEIGHBORHOOD THAT CLOSE TO HADDEN ROAD, YOU'RE GETTING VERY CLOSE TO HEAVY INDUSTRIAL.

YOU'RE VERY CLOSE TO A VERY MAJOR PETROCHEMICAL PLANT THAT OWNS ALL THE LAND AROUND THERE THAT THEY COULD POTENTIALLY EXPAND TO.

AND I KNOW THAT WOULDN'T BE Y'ALL'S CONCERN BY THE TIME THAT HAPPENED 'CAUSE YOU WOULD'VE ALREADY SOLD YOUR HOUSES BY THEN.

BUT, UM, THE CITIZENS THERE, I DON'T THINK WE GUARANTEE WE PROCEED.

YEAH.

COULD I ADDRESS JUST A, A FEW THINGS THERE, UM, WITH REGARDS TO THE ROAD PROJECT? ABSOLUTELY.

WE HAVE HAVE TO DO THE SAME TIA, UM, AND, AND YOU CAN SEE IT PRIOR TO US IMPROVING GARTH ROAD.

IT'S A LEFT TURN LANE.

UH, YOU CAN SEE THAT, YOU KNOW, ON FUTURE, YOU KNOW, FURTHER NORTH ON GARTH, I MEAN HIS LEFT TURN LANE, YOU CAN SEE THAT ON OUR, OUR, UM, HENEY ROAD ON THE WEST.

AND SO THIS IS ABOVE AND BEYOND, YOU KNOW, WHAT IS TYPICALLY REQUIRED.

UM, I WOULD SAY THAT THE OTHER PIS THAT ARE, ARE PROCEEDING ARE NOT OF THIS SCALE OF A PROJECT.

THEY DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO LEVERAGE THAT SCALE.

I MEAN, IT, IT IS COMMON PRACTICE FOR CITIES TO ESTABLISH A MINIMUM ACREAGE OF A PROJECT THAT WOULD BE QUALIFIED FOR A FINANCIAL STRUCTURE OF, OF THIS TYPE.

I MEAN, WE SEE THAT IN OTHER JURISDICTIONS, BUT, AND WE COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND THAT THE PROJECTS LIST MUST BE EXPANDED IN ORDER TO WARRANT THAT.

I MEAN, WE TRULY ESTABLISH A WIN FOR THE COMMUNITY WITH BETTER QUALITY.

UH, I THINK IF YOU DRIVE GOOSE CREEK LANDING AND YOU COMPARE IT TO ASBELL COVE, YOU KNOW, DIRECTLY TO THE NORTH, THERE IS A VISIBLE DIFFERENCE THAT WE ARE DELIVERING, UH, FROM CONCRETE MASONRY FENCES TO THE FENCES THAT ARE DILAPIDATED, FALLING DOWN TO THE SOUTH, ALONG THE SAME, YOU KNOW, STRETCH OF OUR THROAT.

IT IS A LEVEL OF QUALITY THAT DIFFERS, YOU KNOW, FROM THE KB HOMES PROJECT THAT WE WILL SEE THEM FORWARD.

I MEAN, I AND I STAND BY THAT.

I, I I TRULY DO, UM, AGREE LAND USE AROUND, YOU KNOW, LAND THAT YOU DON'T CONTROL.

ABSOLUTELY.

UH, AND THAT IS THE DISCLOSURE THAT WE HAVE NO CONTROL OVER THIS LANE.

UM, WE WILL GO THROUGH THE HARRIS COUNTY FLOOD CONTROL IN ORDER TO GET AN APPROVED DRAINAGE STUDY TO HANDLE IMPACTS TO THE EAST.

RIGHT NOW, THIS WHOLE AREA DRAINS THROUGH 25 FOOT WIDE HARRIS COUNTY FLOOD CONTROL DITCHES THAT ARE FOUR FOOT DEEP OVERGROWN.

AND WHEN WE SAW IT IN HARVEY RIGHT NOW, THE EXISTING 514

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WE CAN DRAG THAT DEPTH OF CEDAR BAYOU OUT TO ALLEVIATE THIS WHOLE AREA.

I MEAN, I DROVE THROUGH THE GOOSE CREEK MEMORIAL HIGH SCHOOL PARKING LOT THAT WAS UNDERWATER DURING THAT, THAT EVENT.

THIS AREA, THIS PROJECT DOES HELP THAT IT GOES ABOVE AND BEYOND ANY HARRIS COUNTY FLOW CONTROL MINIMUM REQUIREMENT AND YOU KNOW, WHERE YOU DESIGN TO A HUNDRED YEAR STORM.

AND WITH , WE, WE UNDERSTAND THAT AND WE WANT TO PROPOSE THAT ELEVATED QUALITY, UM, THROUGH THIS ETJ.

BUT, UM, I THINK ONE COMMENT, UH, MY UNDERSTANDING, I THINK HARRIS COUNTY THOUGH THEY'RE FROM, UH, ON VILLE, I THINK FROM MAINE TO OUR GARDEN.

I THINK THEY'RE EITHER UNDER DESIGN OR THEY COULD BE LETTING THAT, BUT I CAN'T REMEMBER.

I I, I APPRECIATE THAT TRIGGER.

YES, I WANTED TO ADDRESS THAT SPECIFIC.

WE THROUGH THE, OUR WORKING DIRECTLY WITH THE COUNTY ON RIGHT AWAY, UM, THROUGH OUR DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.

WE'VE ALREADY DUG THE DETENTION FOR THAT ROAD IMPROVEMENT PROJECT WITHIN OUR WOOSTER TRAIL.

SO THAT POND WAS OVERSIZED TO ACCOMMODATE THAT EXPANSION.

THEY ARE ACQUIRING RIGHT AWAY.

WE JUST RECEIVED A FINAL OFFER YESTERDAY.

UM, SO FINALLY SOME MOVEMENT THERE, UM, MUCH LATER THAN WE HAD HOPED.

YOU KNOW, WE HOPED THAT PROJECT HAD BEEN, UM, YOU KNOW, ONE THAT WE COULD DELIVER, BUT WE COULDN'T AGREE WITH THE COUNTY AND CITY SUPPORT.

I SAT HERE WITH MR. DAVIS AND RON BOTTOMS, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO GET INTERIM PLANS AND, AND THEY SAW IT'S, UH, WIDER SCOPE AND THAT SCOPE IS FINALLY AT THE RIGHT OF WAY ACQUISITION PHASE.

SO DOESN'T KNOW WHERE THEY WERE.

HEATHER'S COMMENT ON THE ENCROACHMENT OF INDUSTRY AND THEN KIND OF THE COMPAT COMPATIBILITY ISSUES, WHICH I AGREE WITH, BUT YOU KNOW, THAT THAT'S KIND OF A SEPARATE DISTINCT ISSUE.

I MEAN, WE'RE GONNA HAVE THAT WHETHER IT, WHETHER IT'S A MUD OR A BID ORS OVERLAY.

I MEAN, THAT'S KIND OF A SEPARATE ISSUE.

IT IS AN ISSUE WAS BEFORE IT'S OKAY.

WE ALWAYS TALK ABOUT WE DON'T WANT INDUSTRY ENCROACHING ON RESIDENTIAL.

YEAH.

BUT THAT IT ALSO GOES THE OTHER WAY.

SURE.

YEAH.

OKAY.

WELL, I MEAN THAT, THAT, THAT'S IT.

I JUST, MY FINAL COMMENT AND, AND I'M GONNA BE COMPLETE HERE, BUT YOU KNOW, I AGREE WITH, WITH BRETT IN SOME REGARDS AS FAR AS THE OTHERS GO, BUT YOU KNOW, I JUST SEE A A A LITTLE DIFFERENCE HERE, YOU KNOW, THAT THE OTHERS DIDN'T BEGIN THEIR VENTURES UNDER ANOTHER STRUCTURE.

THEY BEGAN WITH THE BID, NUMBER ONE, NUMBER TWO, AS CONFERRED, THE OTHERS DIDN'T HELP US SET THE STANDARD, WHICH, WHICH LENNAR DID.

SO, YOU KNOW, LIKE I SAY, I JUST, YOU KNOW, TRY TO GIVE CREDIT WORKPLACE DO HERE IN THAT REGARD.

AND AS FAR AS, YOU KNOW, SETTING THE STANDARD GOES, THE OTHERS WOULDN'T HAVE HAD A STANDARD TO FOLLOW IF IT WASN'T FOR LENNAR HELPING SET THE STANDARD.

SO LIKE I SAY THAT, THAT'S JUST KIND OF WHERE I HANG MY HAT.

THERE'S A IS THERE.

UM, SO FOR THOSE WHO DON'T OWE ME ON MARTIN SCR PLANE DIRECT CAPACITY, UM, I, I THINK THE, WE'VE KIND OF BRUSHED OVER THE ANNEXATION PIECE OF IT A LITTLE BIT.

I UNDERSTAND THAT, UM, THAT THE OFFER IS FOR A, UH, A FIVE FOOT STRIP THAT WOULD COME UP THROUGH THAT PROPERTY TO ALLOW FOR FURTHER ANNEXATION BY THE CITY.

SHOULD WE DECIDE THAT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE, OR SHOULD ANYBODY ELSE WANT TO COME IN AND, AND ANNEX IN, UM, WHILE ON THE SURFACE OF THAT, THAT SEEMS IT'S KIND OF A CONSTELLATION PRICE AS FAR AS I THINK THE CITY IS CONCERNED BECAUSE THAT'S, THAT'S NOT BEST PRACTICES, THAT'S NOT THE MOST EFFICIENT WAY FOR SERVICES TO BE PROVIDED IF WE DO END UP GOING BEYOND THAT.

SO, UM, THAT SAID, YES, IT'LL GET US BEYOND THOSE LIMITS.

IS IT THE BEST WAY TO DO IT? MAYBE NOT.

SO JUST SOMETHING TO, TO CONSIDER.

I DO APPRECIATE THAT.

I DO, I KNEW I WOULD SAY MY COMMENTS IF THERE'S ANY, ANYBODY ELSE WITH SOME COMMENTS ON THIS, BUT NOT, UM, ANNEXATION WAS, WAS WHAT I WAS TOLD WAS KIND OF WAS THE MAJOR, UH, BEHIND THE OINTMENT WITH THIS, THIS IDEA, YOU KNOW? AND I WOULD AGREE, YOU KNOW, WE, WE KIND OF ALREADY DEVELOPED THIS, THIS, THIS STRUCTURE, BUT YOU'RE ASKING JUST TO EXPAND THE SAME THING.

UM, I HAVE A HARD TIME NOW KIND OF, UM, SEEING LIKE WHY WOULD WE NOT SUPPORT SINCE TO KEEP IT GOING? AND LIKE I SAID, I THINK IT'S THE SCALE THAT MAYBE A MAGNITUDE OF PEOPLE GOING COMPARED TO THE OTHERS.

UM, WHAT ONLINE ARE WE LOOKING FOR? DISAPPROVAL REQUEST? IS THERE PARTICULAR TIMELINE WE, WE WOULD LIKE TO MOVE AS QUICKLY AS AS POSSIBLE? I MEAN, I'M JUST, I DID RIGHT WITH, WITH YOUR SUPPORT, WE WOULD IMMEDIATELY START WORKING WITH STAFF.

NO ACTION ITEMS. NO.

SO IT WOULD BE, THERE'S NOT, I WANTED TO HAVE, I YEAH, IDEALLY THAT WE, WE WOULD SORT, YOU KNOW, HAVE THE A AGREEMENTS DRAFTED AND DONE IN THE FOUR WEEK CYCLE AND ON THE FIVE STRIP ANNEX SECTION.

I UNDERSTAND PROBABLY FROM A PLANNING STANDPOINT, IT'S PROBABLY NOT THE BEST, BUT I WAS AROUND WHEN WE DID THE FIVE FOOT ANNEX TO GET

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SO IT'S, IT'S UH, IT IS A PRACTICE OF THE CITY.

RIGHT, FOR SURE.

JUST, JUST A COUPLE OF THINGS, REMEMBER, AND THAT, THAT IS MUDS DON'T GO AWAY.

KIDS DO.

KIDS ARE BASED ON AN ASSESSMENT.

MODS ARE BASED ON A PROPERTY ACT.

UH, THERE ARE SOME REASONS TO CONSIDER.

WE'VE WORKED REALLY HARD TO CREATE A STRUCTURE TO MAKE IT WORK.

WE HAVE A CONSULTANT THAT IS, IS PERHAPS THE, ONE OF THE FOREMOST EXPERTS IN THIS, THIS AREA THAT, THAT SHOWS THAT THIS IS FINANCIALLY VIABLE WITH THE PIT, ESPECIALLY IF, IF THERE'S SOME WAY WE COULD TURN SOME OF THE COSTS THAT WOULD'VE BEEN COVERED BY THE TUR.

SO IF THE TURS IS GIVING ANYBODY, UH, HEARTBURN, I THINK THERE'S AN AVENUE WITHOUT THE TURS TO STILL, UH, MAKE THIS, UH, MAKE THIS WORK.

WOULD THAT BE A CHAPTER THREE 80? NO, NO.

IT'D BE JUST SIMPLY THE USE OF THE PIT.

BECAUSE FROM OUR, FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE, THERE ARE ELEMENTS THAT JUST SIMPLY AREN'T NECESSARY FOR THE FUNCTIONALITY OF THIS, UH, THIS PROJECT AND THAT WE WOULD NOT REQUIRE.

UH, AND THAT THAT MAKES IT MORE COMPATIBLE WITH THE PIT STRUCTURE.

UM, I'M SAYING ANYTHING INCORRECT.

SO, UH, AGAIN, OUR FRONTIER IS TO THE NORTH.

UM, WE CERTAINLY WANT AS FEW OBSTRUCTIONS AS POSSIBLE AS WE CONTINUE TO RESPONSIBLY GROW.

I MEAN, FOR ME, I NEED, I NEED TIME TO KIND OF DIGEST KIND OF WHAT WAS PRESUME BOTH STAFF AND THE PUBLIC.

I DO THINK ANNEXATION IS PROBABLY NOT WHAT WE'RE SEEKING IMMEDIATELY, BUT I DO THINK WE HAVE HAVE THAT ABILITY, UM, YOU KNOW, TO REACH TO THE AREA OF RQ TODAY OR WHATEVER, WHENEVER THAT MAY BE THE CASE, BECAUSE IT'LL BE THE CASE.

MAYOR, IF WE GO WITH THE, THE PI ROUTE, WILL NAR STILL DEDICATE THE, THE LAND FOR SCHOOL, FOR THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL? IT MAY, IT MAKES THAT DEAL MUCH MORE COST PROHIBITIVE FOR THE SCHOOL DISTRICT.

WE, WE ARE UNABLE TO LEVERAGE THE VALUE THAT WE ARE CREATING WITHIN THE 513 ACRE AND WE'VE SHARED PRICING WITH, WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT AND THEY CHOKED ON WHAT IT WOULD, YOU KNOW, WHAT IT WOULD MEAN TO THEM.

I MEAN, IT, IT'S, HONESTLY, IT, IT IS A WIN-WIN WIN FOR ALL ON THE FIVE FOOT ANNEXATION.

OUR DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT REQUIRES US TO GO TO AND THROUGH WITH UTILITIES.

SO WE EXTEND THE WATER, WE EXTEND, YOU KNOW, ON THAT FRONT.

SO, UM, DID YOU SHOW SOMETHING AS FAR AS WHERE THE FIVE FOOT WOULD BE BECAUSE YOU NEED THE FIVE FEET? WELL, RIGHT, RIGHT NOW THE ONLY PROPERTY THAT DIRECT THAT WAS WITHIN THE CITY BOUNDARIES THAT DIRECTLY ABUTS WHAT WE ARE BUYING IS 3.1.

SO WE ARE PROPOSING THAT WE TAKE THAT BECAUSE I JUST, I DON'T KNOW WHERE OUR, WHERE OUR UTILITIES ARE IN A SENSE.

AND SO THE APPENDIX, CHRIS, IF YOU COULD PASS THAT OUT, WE DO HAVE WATER SEWER WHERE THEY WANT, YOU DON'T HAVE TO GET INTO IT RIGHT NOW.

I'M JUST, I'M JUST SAYING THAT'S, THAT'S ONE THING I WANT TO SEE.

SO I CAN RIGHT A LIFT STATION, LOCAL LIFT STATION HERE TO THE FORCE, DOWN TO THE EXISTING INFRASTRUCTURE AND DRAG OF WATER LIKE WE DID ON GARTH ROAD AND HAITI ROAD.

THAT'S, WE DON'T HAVE TO SEE IT TODAY.

THAT WOULD BE ONE OF MY FIRST.

OKAY.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

DO YOU HAVE A FOLLOW UP QUESTION ON THE SCHOOL? SO YOU MENTIONED YOU'D WORK, SCHOOL DISTRICT WOULD BE EXCITED TO WORK WITH YOU ON THE ADDITIONAL ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.

WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? LIKE HOW DO Y'ALL WORK TOGETHER ON THAT? UH, WELL IT'S LIKE WE DID IN ASPHALT COVE, THE MUD AND US AS DEVELOPER, WE AGAIN PROVIDED OFFSITE DETENTION.

WE COORDINATED WITH THE LANDSCAPE IMPROVEMENTS, WE COORDINATED WITH DRAINAGE, UM, SO THAT THEY COULD HAVE A MORE EFFICIENT SCHOOL SITE.

UH, WE WOULD DO THE SAME HERE, UM, ON DRAGGING UTILITIES TO THE SITE, PROVIDING OFFITE DETENTION TO THE SITE, YOU KNOW, THE PRICE THAT THEY WOULD ULTIMATELY HAVE TO PAY FOR THE SITE.

SO THEY, THEY STILL BUILD THE SCHOOL THOUGH.

THEY ABSOLUTELY STILL BUILD AND WE DO HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE, YES.

YEAH, OKAY.

COUNCILWOMAN, IF I MAY, WE'VE HAD THOSE CONSISTENT CONVERSATIONS WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT ABOUT BUILDING IN THAT SAME AREA FOR ABOUT THE LAST YEAR TO YEAR AND A HALF.

SO THIS IS A NOVEL TO THIS PROJECT.

THEY HAVE CONSISTENTLY ASKED US TO TALK TO ANYBODY WHO'S LOOKED AT THESE PROPERTIES AND BE ABLE TO BE AWARE THAT THE SCHOOL DISTRICT WOULD LIKE TO WORK WITH THEM, PURCHASE ANYWHERE FROM 15 TO 17 OF THOSE ACRES TO PUT IN A NEW ELEMENTARY AS WELL.

JUST CURIOUS, DO Y'ALL ALREADY HAVE BUDGETED A NEW ELEMENTARY SCHOOL? IS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU HAVE ALREADY BUDGETED TO SPEND MONEY ON? IT'S, IT'S NOT CURRENTLY BUDGETED.

UM, BUT WE'RE CONSTANTLY PLANNING AHEAD.

UM, WE'RE, WE'RE WORKING ON A LONG RANGE PLAN RIGHT NOW.

AND SO LAND WOULD BE THE FIRST ITEM THAT WE, HERE'S HERE'S ANOTHER ONE OF MY CONCERNS.

WE MAKE DECISIONS HERE THAT THEN FORCE THE SCHOOL DISTRICT TO HAVE TO MAKE FINANCIAL DECISIONS, WHICH THEN RAISES TAXES ON THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY THAT THEN MAKES OUR TAX REDUCTION USELESS.

SO

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AND THAT IS WHY WE HAVE HISTORICALLY AND CONTINUOUSLY PARTNER WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS AND FOR THAT.

SO, UM, AND, AND AGAIN, I STAND BY THE QUALITY THAT WE'RE PRODUCING OUT THERE IN, IN COMPARISON TO THE OTHER DEVELOPMENTS.

UM, SO I AGAIN APPRECIATE YOUR TIME AND, AND CONSIDERATION.

WE'D LIKE TO, TO FIGURE OUT, YOU KNOW, BEST WAY TO PROCEED FORWARD.

SURE.

UH, HAD A, ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTION SIDE MY HEAD? YEAH, I WAS, MY NAME'S TIM GREEN.

I'M, I'M A RESIDENT AND I WORK ON BIDS AND I WORK ON BUD.

I KNOW WHEN WE, WE DID THE ANALYSIS WITH THE CITY, WE TALKED TO STAFF, WE TALKED ABDI ABOUT, UH, DOING THE P AND DOING IN TUR, THE PIT ON ITS OWN WAS ASKING THE QUESTION.

MY RECOLLECTION IS IT WAS NOT FINANCIALLY VIABLE.

THE ONLY WAY TO MAKE IT FINANCIALLY VIABLE WAS TO DO A BID WITH A HERDS OVERLAY WHERE 90% OF THE CITY'S ALOR TAXES COULD CONTRIBUTED TO THAT.

SO WHEN WE WERE DOING THE SUBSEQUENT ANALYSIS, IT WAS, WE FELT LIKE THERE WAS MORE NET DOLLARS THAT GOES TO THE CITY, BUT LESS SERVICES BY HAVING THIS PROPERTY DEVELOPED AT THE MUD IN THE EJ.

SO I GUESS I'M ASKING THE QUESTION IS THE, IS THE, I DON'T THINK THE OPTION IS WE DO AN ETJ MUD OR A PI IN THE CITY.

IF YOU DON'T DO SOMETHING LIKE A 90% TUR OVER A PI, THEN THIS PROJECT'S NOT GONNA HAPPEN.

SO IT'S, SO IT'S NOT IS IN THE CITY OR IS IT OUT OF THE CITY? IT'S, IS IT GOING TO BE A FRIENDSWOOD DEVELOPMENT AND IS IT GONNA BE AN EXPANSION OF THAT PROJECT OR IS IT NOT BE BOUGHT BY FRIENDSWOOD AND EITHER SITS THERE FALLOW OR SOMEBODY ELSE BUYS IT AND DOES A LOWER QUALITY DEVELOPMENT CHOP IT UP? I'M ASKING YOU.

THAT'S CORRECT.

IF I CAN ANSWER THAT.

UM, THE PIT INTERS ANNEXATION CONVERSATION, UH, IS ONLY GOING ON BECAUSE OF THIS REGIONAL DRAINAGE PROJECT, WHICH HAD A TAG OF SIX-ISH PLUS MILLION DOLLARS, WHICH IS NOTHING WE REQUIRE OR REQUEST ANYBODY TO DO THAT DRIVES THE COST UP.

THE, UM, THE, THE MUD SUGGESTING THAT THEY WOULD GO AHEAD AND WIDEN GARTH ROAD FOUR LANES FOR A HALF MILE OR A MILE IS AGAIN, SOMETHING THAT WE DON'T REQUEST ANYBODY TO DO.

THAT COST ADDED TO THEIR PROFORMA IS WHAT IS DRIVING THE COST UP.

SO WHEN WE LOOK AT THE COMPARISON, IT ISN'T ACTUALLY CORRECT TO SAY WE NEED A TURS, WE DON'T NEED A TURS IN THIS AREA.

IF COUNCIL DECIDES TO PUT A TURS UP IN THAT AREA, IT WOULD COME AT THE RECOMMENDATION, UH, THAT IT WOULD BE FOR COMMON AREA IMPROVEMENTS SUCH AS THE WIDENING MAIN STREET, FOR EXAMPLE, OR A COLLECTOR ROAD THAT MAY HAVE TO GO THROUGH THIS DEVELOPMENT AS PART OF OUR FUTURE TRANSPORTATION PLAN.

SO THAT BECOMES THE CHALLENGE OUT OF THIS.

IF YOU REMOVE PROJECTS THAT WE WOULD NOT REQUEST ANYBODY TO DO THAT THEY HAVE IN THERE, THEN YES, ANNEXATION INTO THE CITY AND A PIT WORKS JUST AS WELL, LIKE IT HAD, HAS DONE FOR CASTLE ROCK WAS JUST IMMEDIATELY TO THE SOUTH OF THAT PROJECT.

UM, AND, AND VERY WELL LOOKING FORWARD TO GETTING BUILT.

UH, ADDITIONALLY, THOSE PROPERTIES WILL NOT SIT FALLOW FOR LONG.

UM, THERE HAVE BEEN SEVERAL TIMEFRAME FRAME, I'VE BEEN HERE, SEVERAL DEVELOPERS WHO'VE LOOKED AT THEM.

I THINK NOW THAT FRIENDSWOOD HAS BEEN ABLE TO AT LEAST GET IN, UH, TO A DUE DILIGENCE PERIOD WITH THE SELLERS OF THE PROPERTY, WILL ALLOW OTHER DEVELOPERS TO REALIZE THAT THEY CAN THE SAME.

SO THEY WON'T SIT THERE, THEY WON'T BE SPLIT UP.

UM, THOSE LOTS WILL NEVER BE SPLIT UP.

THE OWNERS HAVE TOLD ME DIRECTLY, THEY'RE NOT GONNA SPLIT 'EM UP.

THEY'RE GONNA SELL THEM AS UNITS AS THEY ARE.

AND I DO BELIEVE WE WOULD HAVE OTHER DEVELOPERS WHO WOULD BE MORE THAN INTERESTED IN COMING IN AND BUYING THIS PROPERTY.

YEAH, AGAIN, I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT I'M NOT SPEAKING I OF THE FRIENDSWOOD PROJECT OR THE DEVELOPMENT.

PLEASE UNDERSTAND IT'S MY JOB TO LOOK AT THIS ON ITS FACE AND SAY, AS PRESENTED TO US, IS THIS IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE CITY? AND AS I'VE LOOKED AT IT AND SHARED IT WITH OTHER DEPARTMENT HEADS, EVERYONE HAS LOOKED AT IT AND SAID ON ITS FACE RIGHT NOW, IT DOES NOT MAKE SENSE.

OUR CONSULTANT HAS REVIEWED IT AND HAS SAID ON ITS FACE RIGHT NOW, 'CAUSE OF THESE ADDITIONAL PROJECTS BUILT IN HERE.

WE DO NOT ASK ANYBODY TO DO THE COST OF INCREASED.

AND THAT'S WHY

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THIS PROJECTS COME OUT ANNEXED INTO THE CITY AND PUT A PIN ON AND WILL BE AS SUCCESSFUL AS CASTLE ROCK KB HOMES AND FERGUSON DEVELOPMENT.

I WOULD, I WOULD, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO CLOSE WITH, THERE IS NO COMMUNITY IN THE BAYTOWN AREA THAT IS PERFORMING LIKE THIS ONE AND IT'S BECAUSE OF THE, THE QUALITY THAT WE HAVE DELIVERED TO THE MARKET AND IT'S QUALITY THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO CONTINUE.

AND, AND SO AGAIN, APPRECIATE YOUR CONSIDERATION.

UM, AGREE TO DISAGREE WITH STAFF AND, AND, AND YOU KNOW, HOW TO BENEFIT ALL PARTIES INVOLVED AND, AND ULTIMATELY BUILD A BETTER COMMUNITY.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.

ALRIGHT, MOVE ON TO OUR NEXT ITEM.

WE'RE GONNA HEAR A REPORT, I ASSUME, I GUESS FROM, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER ADO AND ALSO

[b. Receive a report from the Bring the Battleship to Baytown Committee Representative.]

YES.

SO WE WANTED TO JUST REMIND YOU FROM OUR RETREAT THAT WE DID WHAT WE SAID WE WERE GONNA DO.

UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS FIRST DISCUSSED, UM, IS WHAT THE CITY WOULD BE WILLING TO CONTRIBUTE TOWARDS THIS PROJECT, UM, IF AT ALL.

AND SO WHAT WE WANTED TO DO FROM THE RETREAT WAS TO ENSURE THAT THE CITY WOULD BE ONE OF THE TOP, UM, SELECTED CITIES.

SO IF, IF THE FOUNDATION SAYS BAYTOWN IS ONE OF THE TOP THREE, YOU KNOW, CITIES THAT WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT TO BRING THE BATTLESHIP, THEN WE WILL HOPE TOWARDS, UM, THE AMOUNT THAT IT WOULD COST TO BRING IN A FUNDRAISER TO COVER THE AMOUNT THAT THEY NEED FOR THE DRAINAGE OR WHATEVER IT IS THAT THEY NEEDED.

AND THAT'S WHAT WE LEFT IT AT.

UM, AND SO FROM THERE, UM, MAYOR OR OR RICK WAS GONNA GO BACK AND SEND A LETTER, UM, TO THE FOUNDATION.

OKAY.

IF WE'RE NAMED TOP THREE, ET CETERA, WHATEVER WE DISCUSSED.

SO FROM THEN WE ALSO SAID THAT WE WOULD MEET, UM, WITH MR. ESBA AND UM, HE INVITED MIKE WILSON.

SO, UM, I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT MIKE COUNCILMAN LESTER HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO MEET WITH THEM BECAUSE HE WAS NEW, UH, TO THE COMMITTEE AS MY CO-CHAIR.

SO WE WENT AND WE MET, UM, THE, PRETTY MUCH THE SAME DATA THAT WE HAD RECEIVED IN THE PAST IN TERMS OF VISITATION, WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE.

UM, UH, WE OBVIOUSLY SAW, UM, TWO PASSION FROM THE GROUPS THAT THEY'VE BEEN TALKING TO FOR THE BATTLESHIP.

I'VE TALKED TO COMMUNITY MEMBERS, EVERYONE THINKS IT'S GREAT.

UM, BUT REALLY WHAT ARE THE NUMBERS THAT WE ARE GOING TO NEED, UM, IN ORDER TO DO THIS? AND SO WE ARE TALKING 30, 32 MILLION FOR THE INITIAL, UM, DREDGING, UM, TO, TO EVEN PUT THE SHIP THERE.

UM, WE ASKED ABOUT CONTINUED MAINTENANCE FOR THE DREDGING BECAUSE WE KNOW IT'S NOT A ONE AND DONE AND THEY'RE LIKE, WELL, THE FOUNDATION WILL TAKE CARE OF THAT.

WE DON'T NEED TO WORRY ABOUT IT.

SO WE'RE, WE'RE QUESTIONING THAT A LITTLE BIT.

UM, AND ULTIMATELY WE WERE ASKED IF WE WOULD CONSIDER DOING A BOND BECAUSE THEY ARE ON A TIMETABLE, UM, TO GET THE SHIP HERE.

SO WHAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO DO IS INSTEAD OF US WAITING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE THE TOP ONE OF THE TOP THREE AND WAITING TO, TO SEE HOW MUCH MONEY IS RAISED BY THIS FUNDRAISER, THAT WE FRONT THE MONEY AND WE FRONT THE MONEY THROUGH A BOND.

WE DID TALK TO BOTH GENTLEMEN AND SAID, YOU KNOW, WE'VE WORKED REALLY HARD TO ENSURE THAT WE'RE CONTINUING TO DECREASE OUR TAXES AND WE ARE NOT SURE IF THEY WOULD BE WILLING TO GO BACK AND, AND DO A BOND FOR THIS PROJECT.

AND SO, UM, WE TOLD THEM WE'D TAKE, BRING IT TO Y'ALL.

THEY WANTED, UM, A BOND ELECTION IN MAY.

UM, WE TOLD THEM IT PROBABLY WOULD NOT BE FEASIBLE.

UM, AND EVEN IF WE DID A A, AN ELECTION IN MAY, AND IF IT PASSED, IT'S STILL GONNA TAKE MAYBE 12 MONTHS TO GET IT GOING BECAUSE IF WE DO THE BOND, IF I UNDERSTAND CORRECTLY, AND RICK CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, UM, IF WE DO THE BOND, WE ARE OWNERS OF THAT BOND.

SO WE HAVE TO DO OUR DUE DILIGENCE, GET THE, THE BIDS OUT THERE, INTERVIEW, DO EVERYTHING.

SO IT'S NOT LIKE WE'RE GONNA GET IT OUT AND GET THE MONEY WITHIN THE NEXT SIX MONTHS.

UM, SO THAT'S REALLY WHERE WE'RE AT RIGHT NOW.

WE TOLD THEM THAT WE COME AND PRESENT AND MIKE, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO ADD, BUT, UH, UH, MY FEELINGS THAT WE'RE PROBABLY GOING TO, YOU KNOW, HEY, LET'S MAKE SURE WE'RE ON THE TOP THREE FIRST WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO STICK TO WHAT WE WANTED IS IF WE ARE ON THE

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UM, AND SO THAT'S WHERE WE'RE AT RIGHT NOW.

SO I DON'T KNOW, MIKE, IF YOU WANNA ADD ANYTHING, COVERED THE BASES.

AGAIN, THE INFORMATION WAS THE SAME THAT THAT PRESENTED IN, IN COUNSEL.

UM, AND IN THE DISCUSSIONS, MS. BASICALLY BASICALLY TALKED ABOUT THE NUMBERS THAT HE WAS PROVIDING AND HE WAS QUITE CLEAR THAT THOSE NUMBERS WERE HIS ESTIMATES, THAT THEY WEREN'T BASED ON ANY HARD DETAIL STRUCTURAL INVESTIGATIONS OR SURVEYS OR WHATEVER THEY WERE HIS ESTIMATES.