Jan 13, 2022 CITY COUNCIL WORK SESSION

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OKAY.

UM, WE

[a. Receive an overview and discuss major unfunded Capital Improvement Program (CIP) projects.]

UM, WE DID TALK ABOUT, UH, OR GET YOUR INPUT INTO SOME OF THOSE PROJECTS.

UM, HOWEVER, BEFORE WE PROCEED WITH IMPLEMENTATION, WE NEED TO GET YOUR FEEDBACK ON, UH, WHAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE AS FAR AS PRIORITIES.

SO, UH, GIVEN THAT I HAVE, UH, JUST A SHORT PRESENTATION WE'RE GONNA GO OVER, UM, FIRST I'M GONNA TALK ABOUT A SUMMARY OF SOME OF THE PROJECTS AND, AND SOME OF THESE, LIKE I SAY, WE TALKED ABOUT AT EVERGREEN.

I DID, UH, ADD A COUPLE, UH, BASED ON YOUR INPUT AND, UH, SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE GOING.

THEN I HAVE A PROPOSED, UH, STAFF PRIORITY LIST, AND THEN I'LL OPEN IT UP TO YOUR, UH, INPUT AND DISCUSSION.

SO THE FIRST PROJECT IS, UH, WEST BAKER ROAD RECONSTRUCTION.

WE DID, UH, REVIEW THIS ALREADY.

IT'S, UM, FROM NORTH TO DECKER, AND IT, UH, INCLUDES ADJUSTING THE MEDIANS FOR BETTER SITE DISTANCES AND JUST OVERALL, UH, BETTER FUNCTIONALITY OF THE ROAD, AS WELL AS IMPROVING THE CONDITIONS.

ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS PROJECT? OKAY.

SECOND ITEM, AND WE DID TALK ABOUT THIS AS WELL, IS THE RECONSTRUCTION AND POSSIBLE RELOCATION OF FIRE STATION NUMBER TWO ACROSS THE STREET HERE.

UH, WE WOULD INCLUDE, YOU KNOW, UH, COMPLETE COMPLETELY NEW, UH, BUILDING AND, AND EVERYTHING ASSOCIATED WITH THAT.

UH, THE THIRD ITEM IS ONE THAT CAME UP DURING OUR DISCUSSION.

IT IS A, UH, MULTI-PURPOSE ARENA.

IT COULD HOST, UH, SPORTING EVENTS.

UH, WE TALKED ABOUT, UH, POSSIBLE, UH, SPORTS, TOURISM, UH, TOURNAMENTS, ENTERTAINMENT EVENTS, AND, UH, GRADUATIONS THAT ARE TOO LARGE TO HOLD IN ANY LOCAL VENUES.

SO, AND AS YOU NOTICE, I DON'T HAVE ANY, UM, COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH THESE.

UH, WHAT I WANT YOU TO DO IS GET THE PRIORITY FROM YOU.

AND THEN ONCE, UH, WE, WE HAVE OUR PRIORITY, THEN WE CAN START DOING PRELIMINARY ENGINEERING, UH, WHERE WE ALLOCATE, YOU KNOW, UH, OUR RESOURCES AND DETERMINE HOW MUCH FUNDING WE NEED, THE BEST, UH, SOURCES OF FUNDING, AND, UH, THAT HELPS PRIORITIZE OUR STAFF RESOURCES AS WELL.

SO, AS I SAID, UH, THIS ITEM WAS A NEW ONE THAT, UH, WAS BASED ON YOUR INPUT.

THE NEXT ITEM IS, UH, BAYWAY RECONFIGURATION.

IT IS, UH, ONE THAT WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, BEEN PLANNING.

HOWEVER, WE HAVEN'T IDENTIFIED A FUNDING SOURCE, AND THIS REALLY COMBINES TWO NEEDS.

UH, ONE IS A REPLACEMENT OF A WATERLINE THAT WE HAVE THAT RUNS THE EXTENT OF BAYWAY.

UH, AND THE OTHER IS A RESULT OF THE BAYWAY CORRIDOR STUDY, WHERE WE TALKED ABOUT THE NEED TO, UH, YOU KNOW, ENHANCE THIS CORRIDOR FOR PEDESTRIAN AND, UH, CYCLIST USE.

AND SO THIS PROJECT WOULD COMBINE BOTH NEEDS.

IT WOULD BE A RECONFIGURATION OF THE STREET AND REPLACEMENT OF THE WATER.

AND THE NEXT ITEM IS, UH, ONE THAT I TALKED TO YOU ABOUT WHEN WE WENT THROUGH THE, UH, FACILITY MASTER PLAN.

THAT IS A, UM, RECONSTRUCTION AND AN EXPANSION OF THE CITY HALL CAMPUS, WHICH WOULD INCLUDE THE, UH, COMMUNITY CENTER NEXT DOOR.

AND SO THAT WOULD, UH, ALLOW BETTER UTILIZATION OF SPACE AND ENHANCED, UH, COUNCIL CHAMBERS, UH, TRAINING ROOMS FOR OUR, YOU KNOW, HUMAN RESOURCES, UM, AS WELL AS RELOCATION OF THE WELL WELLNESS CENTER AND JUST ALLOW FOR STAFF GROWTH.

UH, AND THE LAST ITEM THAT, UH, OUR, NOT THE LAST ITEM, BUT THIS ONE IS ONE THAT, UH, WE HAVEN'T TALKED ABOUT BEFORE.

BUT AS YOU, YOU MAY BE AWARE, WE ARE DOING A, UH, MASTER PLAN FOR THE EVERGREEN AREA.

SO THE AREA SOUTH OF 1 46 THERE, WE HAVE, UM, A POSSIBLE, UH, TURS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT.

AND THERE IS, UH, DEVELOPMENT INTEREST SINCE, UM, STATE HIGHWAY NINE NINE IS GOING THROUGH.

SO THERE'S, YOU KNOW, POSSIBLE RESIDENTIAL

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THERE'S ALSO POSSIBLE IMMUNITIES THAT WOULD, UM, YOU KNOW, COMPLIMENT THE HOTEL CONVENTION CENTER.

AND SO LEAD DRIVE WOULD BE A, UM, ENTRYWAY INTO THIS, UH, NEWLY DEVELOPED AREA.

AND, YOU KNOW, UH, IT COULD BE SOMETHING SIMILAR TO WHAT WE'RE DOING ON MARKET STREET, WHERE WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, ENHANCED, UH, PEDESTRIAN CYCLE OF, UH, FACILITIES AND JUST, YOU KNOW, A BETTER CONDITION ON THE ROADWAY AND, AND, UM, BETTER CROSS SECTION.

AND THEN THE LAST ITEM IS THE COMMUNITY RECREATION CENTER, WHICH, UH, WE DID DISCUSS AT THE, UH, AT THE RETREAT.

SO, UH, THE PROPOSED PRIORITIES I HAD, UM, WERE THE ORDER THAT I JUST, UH, WENT OVER THOSE.

UH, HOWEVER, I'M VERY OPEN TO YOUR FEEDBACK AND, UM, INPUT.

AND SO, UH, REALLY WANT TO SAVE TIME FOR, FOR YOU TO PROVIDE INPUT.

AND, YOU KNOW, SO I'LL, I'LL GO BACK TO THE, UH, PARTY LIST HERE SO I CAN JUST HEAR FROM YOU AND, UH, SEE IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT YOU THINK IS MAYBE A MAJOR PROJECT THAT IS NOT ALWAYS THAT WE NEED TO CONSIDER OR, YOU KNOW, WHAT YOU WOULD CONSIDER AS YOUR PRIORITY HERE.

DO YOU HAVE THOSE IN PRIORITY ORDER, FRANK? NO.

THAT, THAT WOULD BE THE PROPOSED PRIORITY? UH, I, I DO WANT TO ADD ONE, ONE ITEM AS WELL.

UH, SO AS YOU KNOW, WE APPLIED A COUPLE YEARS FOR THE HARRIS COUNTY PARTNERSHIP PROJECTS, AND THAT JUST OPENED THIS YEAR AS WELL.

UM, WE, WE HAD SUCCESS IN GETTING, UH, MARKET STREET FUNDED THROUGH THAT PROGRAM.

IT IS A, UH, 50% MATCH.

AND GENERALLY WHEN, WHEN THE COUNTY APPROVES IT, THEY'VE KEPT THEIR MATCH.

SO, UM, IT IS, UH, PROJECTS THAT, YOU KNOW, WE CAN GET GOOD CONTRIBUTION, BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, THEY STILL REQUIRE SIGNIFICANT, UH, CONTRIBUTION TO THE CITY.

SO, UH, I WAS PROPOSING TO SUBMIT BOTH BAYWAY AND LEE DRIVE INTO THOSE, UH, PARTNERSHIP PROJECTS OR POSSIBLE GRANTS AND, YOU KNOW, UH, WE COULD SEE IF ONE OR BOTH IS, IS APPROVED AND THAT MIGHT, YOU KNOW, INFLUENCE THE, THE, THAT PART OF THIS.

ALRIGHT.

WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE TO ALSO MAYBE ASK, UM, THE COLLEGE FOR A PARTNERSHIP ON THE LEAD DRIVE RECONFIGURATION SINCE IT RUNS RIGHT THROUGH THE COLLEGE CONTROL SOURCE? I THINK IF WE'RE LOOKING AT, UM, TRYING TO GET PARTNERSHIPS AND FUNDING, I WOULD MOVE THOSE UP IN PRIORITY, YOUR HONOR, TOGETHER WITH IF THOSE ARE EASY WAYS TO GET PARTNERSHIP AND FUNDING.

OKAY.

SO IF WE DID GET FUNDING THAT WOULD MOVE THAT UP IN THE PARTY? I THINK SO.

OKAY.

FOR THE FIRE STATION TWO, UM, DO YOU HAVE AN, UH, HAVE WE SET A LOCATION? WE HAVE NOT.

SO RIGHT NOW WE'RE JUST OPEN TO YES.

SO THAT, THAT WOULD BE DETERMINED DURING THE, UH, PRELIMINARY ENGINEERING.

WE HAVE A SITE THAT WE'RE PRIMARILY LOOKING AT RIGHT NOW.

UH, AND THAT IS, UH, LOCATED IN FRONT OF THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS, SCHOOL DISTRICT PROPERTY IN FRONT OF THEIR WAREHOUSE.

WHAT DO THEY HAVE? JUST OFF OF MARKET, RIGHT? THEY BASICALLY ACROSS FROM PUBLIC, I DON'T SEE THE, UM, WATER AND SEWER ON CONNELLY ROAD AREA.

WELL, THAT'S ALREADY FUNDED.

IT'S ALREADY FUNDED.

WHAT'S THE TIMELINE ON THAT? UH, THAT IS GONNA BID OUT IN THIS MONTH, SO IT SHOULD BE COME, YOU SHOULD SEE IT IN, UH, IN FRONT OF COUNCIL BY MARCH.

MARCH.

AND THEN THE TIMELINE OF CONSTRUCTION.

YEAR.

YEAR.

SO THOSE WE'RE GONNA START IN THE YEAR? NO, NO, NO.

THE DURATION IS THE END.

OKAY.

WHEN DO THE TICKETS INSTALL? SO, TAKE TO COUNCIL ON MARCH, IT WILL BE IN APRIL THAT THEY START, AND THEY'LL START RIGHT ALONG THE NORTH SIDE BY OF THE STREETS OR NORTH SIDE.

AND THIS ONE WE'LL BE KNOCKING ON DOORS ASKING RESIDENTS WHERE THEY WANT.

WELL, FROM THIS POINT IT IS, IT, IT IT IS, BUT AT LEAST IT'S, IT IS NOT GONNA STRETCH OUT A WHOLE YEAR.

RIGHT.

YEAH.

ANY OTHER YES, MA'AM.

OH, JUST TO, I GUESS, PIGGYBACK ON THAT.

I, I, I DIDN'T PUT, UM, LIKE,

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WE CAN PRIORITIZE THAT WITHIN THE, THE WATER SEWER PUMP.

OKAY.

WELL, LET ME ASK ABOUT THIS.

WHAT ABOUT THE STREETS OVER IN LEONARD PARK? SO THOSE ARE SCHEDULED FOR DESIGN, UM, THIS YEAR.

AND THAT WOULD BE PART OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, STREET RECONSTRUCTION.

WE HAVE, UH, CURRENTLY SCHEDULED ABOUT $4 MILLION A YEAR FOR NEIGHBORHOOD STREETS.

MM-HMM .

AND SO THAT WAS THE ONE THAT WOULD BE NEXT ON THE, IT WAS SCHEDULED FOR DESIGN THIS YEAR.

WE HAVE FOLKS FOR DESIGN THIS YEAR.

WE JUST HAVEN'T HAD STAFF CAPACITY TO GET THAT STARTED ON DESIGN.

OKAY.

IT, IT IS, UH, FUNDED THAT INCLUDED IT AS AN INITIATIVE IN THE IMPLEMENTATION .

OKAY.

IF, LET ME ASK A REQUEST, UM, FOR THE RESIDENTIAL STREETS, I KNOW WE JUST HAD THE NEW PTI INDEX THAT WAS, THAT WE KIND OF LOOK AT THAT AND SEE IF THINGS MOVE OR NOT MOVE.

I, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE KIND OF AS LEAST OUR NEXT FIVE YEAR PLAN WITH THE RESIDENTIAL STREETS.

OKAY.

A YEAR BY YEAR, BY YEAR BY YEAR.

SO WE HAVE AN IDEA.

OKAY.

KIND OF LIKE WHAT WE USED TO DO WITH STREET BOND.

SO WE HAVE AN IDEA, IT DON'T HAVE TO BE BY COUNCIL DISTRICT, BUT IDENTIFYING BY COUNCIL DISTRICT.

RIGHT.

THAT'S GREAT.

SO WE KNOW WE NEED TO GET YOU, WE SEGREGATE THOSE BY COUNCIL DISTRICT PCI SCORES.

WE NEED TO SEND A NEW ONE OUT TO YOU BASED ON THE NEW DISTRICT.

WELL, WHAT DO HE WANTS A RECONSTRUCTION PLAN, RIGHT.

THAT WE CAN THEN, AND THAT WE, WE, WE CAN GO FIVE YEARS.

WE HAVE LONGER IF YOU WANT, BUT WE HAD THAT.

ANYBODY ELSE ON? I'M SORRY.

SO FRANK, FOR ME, UM, IT'S DIFFICULT FOR ME TO PRIORITIZE IT WITHOUT KNOWING HOW MUCH THEY COST OR WHERE THE FUNDING'S COMING FROM.

SO FOR EXAMPLE, UM, I, I REALLY LOVE THE IDEA OF A MULTIPURPOSE ARENA.

AND IF WE HAD LIKE A PARTNERSHIP OR IF WE DID AN RFP, LIKE THE GOLF COURSE, I'D BE LIKE, YEAH, LET'S KEEP IT AT THE TOP.

BUT IF WE WERE GONNA TRY TO DO SOMETHING LIKE WHAT THE SCHOOL DISTRICT DID, I WOULD SAY IT'S AT THE BOTTOM OR OFF THE LIST COMPLETELY.

SO IF I'M LOOKING AT THIS LIST AND THINKING IT'S ALL GONNA BE ON US NOT KNOWING HOW MUCH IT COSTS AND WHERE THE FUNDING'S COMING FROM, I'M LIKING, YOU KNOW, BAKER BAYWAY AND LEE AND ALL THE OTHER STUFF IS JUST NICE TO HAVE.

SO IT'S DIFFICULT FOR ME PERSONALLY TO PRIORITIZE.

THAT'S, I WOULD, I WOULD AGREE.

FOR ME, I, I NEED TO KIND OF KNOW THE FUNDING SOURCE.

'CAUSE IF IT'S PIE IN THE SKY, THEN I DON'T WANNA PRIORITIZE IT.

I WANT GET AS MUCH TROUBLE READY PROJECTS AS A PRIORITY.

SO FAR, ALL OF OUR CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THE MULTI-EVENT, EVENT CENTER AS, UH, MULTI-PURPOSE CENTER HAS BEEN ALONG THE LINES OF A PUBLIC, PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP AND WHERE WE'VE BEEN SYNERGIZE WITH GOOSE CREEK SCHOOL.

AND, UH, WE'VE ACTUALLY HAD SOME PRELIMINARY CHATS, UM, WITH THE SUPERINTENDENT ABOUT THE POSSIBILITY OF PROPOSING THAT TO THE BOARD.

UH, BUT THAT HAD TO BE HEARD.

YEAH.

BUT I THINK SEEKING OUT, UH, MOVING AN RFP SIMILAR TO WHAT WE'VE DONE WITH, UH, DELL, UH, CENTER OR OTHER PROJECTS LIKE THAT, I THINK THAT WOULD BE THE APPROACH THAT PROJECT.

YES.

I, A FEW COMMENTS HERE THAT I, SO BEAR WITH ME SO FRANK, AS FAR AS, AND I APPRECIATE STAFF TRYING TO PRIORITIZE MOST JUST JUMP IN THERE.

BUT I, I GUESS, YOU KNOW, MY THOUGHTS ARE LIKE ON THE COMMUNITY AND REC CENTER, SO I SEE WEST BAKER ROAD RECONSTRUCTION.

I I, I SEE ALL OF THEM, BUT YOU KNOW, WE'VE ACTUALLY TALKED ABOUT THE COMMUNITY AND REC CENTER.

NOW WE'VE TALKED ABOUT FIRE STATION NUMBER TWO AS WELL.

I DON'T KNOW, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THOSE WAS FIRST AND ONE WAS SECOND, BUT YOU KNOW, THOSE TWO PRECEDED ALL THE OTHERS.

AND YET THE COMMUNITY AND REC CENTERS AT THE VERY BOTTOM.

AND WE, WE'VE EVEN IDENTIFIED A SITE AND, AND WE'VE PURCHASED A SITE WITH THE, WITH THE POTENTIAL OF THAT BEING THE SITE FOR THAT ENDEAVOR.

SO, YOU KNOW, AS FAR AS THE PECKING ORDER, YOU KNOW, WE, I WOULD ASK THAT IF IT'S, WE ESTABLISH SOME SORT OF PROTOCOL, WHETHER IT'S GET IN LINE , I, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOME DATES BESIDE THOSE WHEN THOSE IDEAS WERE FIRST, YOU KNOW, FORMULATED AND, AND FIRST CAME UP WITH, BECAUSE I'M A LITTLE DISAPPOINTED THAT ONE OF THE, THE OLDEST, UM, CONCEPTS IS, IS LAST.

SO I, I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS AS FAR AS THAT GOES.

UM, I, I AGREE WITH COUNCILMAN BEFOR.

SHE STILL MIGHT THAT A LITTLE BIT, BUT, YOU KNOW, I'M JUST TO THE POINT, YOU KNOW, THESE PUBLIC PRIVATE

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SANTA MALL.

WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THE HOTEL CONFERENCE CENTER FOR DECADES.

AND WE WE'RE A LONG WAYS FROM GENERATING ANY INCOME ON, ON EITHER PROJECT.

FRANKLY, YOU KNOW, I'M, I'M A LITTLE CONCERNED ON THE, UH, AMBITION THAT, THAT WE'RE, WE'RE CONTEMPLATING UNDERTAKING AT THIS POINT IN TIME WITH ALL OF THE THINGS THAT ARE GOING ON.

AND, YOU KNOW, LIKE I SAY, I HAVE SOME, A, A LITTLE BIT OF TREPIDATION THERE.

AND, UH, YOU KNOW, I, I AGREE WITH MS. BETTENCOURT THAT THE MULTI-PURPOSE ARENA, EVEN THE COMMUNITY AND REC CENTER, YOU KNOW, I'D LOVE TO SEE IT.

FRANKLY, THERE'S A, A GOOD POSSIBILITY TO BE IN DISTRICT TWO.

BUT, YOU KNOW, THOSE TWO THINGS, HONESTLY, I'M PROBABLY LEANING TOWARDS VOTER APPROVAL ON BOTH OF THEM.

AND, YOU KNOW, I, I JUST THINK WE'RE TO THAT POINT, WE, WE'VE WE'RE THE ELECTED OFFICIALS AND, AND WE'RE ENTRUSTED, BUT AT SOME POINT IN TIME, THE CITIZENS NEED TO VOTE ON SOME OF THESE MAJOR, I, I DON'T MEAN A MILLION DOLLAR EXPENSE, BUT THIS, THIS IS TENS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS.

SO THAT'S KINDA WHERE I'M AT.

I DON'T, YOU KNOW, AND BE NEGATIVE NELLY HERE, BUT I JUST THINK SOMEONE NEEDS TO SAY THAT.

AND I THINK WE'VE REACHED THAT POINT.

AND THAT'S, THAT'S WHERE I'M AT.

AND UH, BUT I LIKE THE TS ASSISTANCE ON THE LEAD DRIVE RECONFIGURATION.

I LOVE TRYING TO LEVERAGE SOME OF THESE COSTS WITH GRANTS.

UM, YOU KNOW, I CERTAINLY LIKE THAT.

UM, BUT LIKE I SAY, I'M JUST, I'M TO THE POINT WHERE I'M GONNA ADVOCATE FOR NON-ESSENTIAL EXPENDITURES AND I, I'M GONNA BECOME A LITTLE MORE VOCAL ABOUT THAT IN 2022.

SO THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

UH, I THINK I AGREE WITH MOST WHAT EVERYTHING'S BEEN SAID.

I MEAN, THE ROAD BAKER, BY WAY, LEE, I MEAN THOSE ARE, THERE'S SAFETY ASPECTS OF THOSE.

UM, AND SO I, I DO THINK THOSE ARE ALL IMPORTANT.

UM, AS FAR AS THE FIRE STATION, I MEAN, IF IT'S IN A CONDITION WHERE IT'S NEEDED, I MEAN WE, I THINK WE JUST NEED TO MAKE IT HAPPEN.

IF IT'S REACHED THE END OF LIFE, THEN, UH, 'CAUSE THESE OTHER ONES ARE, LIKE YOU SAID, PIE IN THE SKY.

I THINK THOSE ARE THE TERM YOU USED.

I MEAN, BUT A, A FIRE STATION, IF IT'S OF LIFE, I THINK WE JUST NEED TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN.

UH, BUT OF THE REST OF THOSE, UM, JUST FROM WHAT I'VE HEARD FROM CITIZENS, I WOULD SAY THE MULTI BUR IS PROBABLY WOULD HAVE THE MOST SUPPORT IN THE COMMUNITY FROM WHAT I'VE HEARD.

BECAUSE PEOPLE ALWAYS MENTION WHY ARE WE DRIVING OUT OF TOWN FOR GRADUATIONS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

SO I DO HEAR A LOT.

I THINK IT'S MORE, WELL, FOR THAT ONE EXACTLY.

AN ECONOMIC ENGINEER.

IT COULD BE AN, SO I MEAN, FOR ME, ONLY THING I WOULD ADD WOULD BE AT LEAST LIKE SOME POSSIBLE FUNDING SOURCES.

UM, THAT'D BE HELPFUL.

UM, I GET WHAT, WHAT I WAS SAYING AS FAR AS, YOU KNOW, WHERE THESE ARE ORIGINATED AND SO ON, 'CAUSE YOU KNOW, AND THINGS CHANGE, BUT SURE.

ALSO, UM, YOU IDENTIFIED THE FUNDING SOURCE AND HOW THIS FITS INTO THE MATRIX THAT THE FINANCE POLICY CAME UP WITH AS FAR AS GEOS OR TYPES OF FUNDING SOURCES.

SO THAT'D BE HELPFUL TO US.

AND THEN THEY SEND THIS TO US.

I KNOW YOU SENT SOMETHING, BUT SEND THIS TO US AND THEN I GUESS LET'S SCORE IT AND SEND IT BACK TO YOU.

THAT'S THE WAY TO DO IT.

IF THAT'S HOW YOU WANT IT NOW.

OR AT LEAST LET US PICK THE TOP THREE.

JUST THINK WE NEED MORE INFORMATION BEFORE WE EVEN ABLE TO STORE IT.

I MEAN, IT'S HARD FOR ME TO, I MEAN, COST, I GUESS MY THOUGHT WAS, I, I WAS GONNA TAKE THIS INPUT.

WE'RE, UH, DRAFTING OUR CIP FOR FY 23 TO 27.

AND SO, UH, YOUR INPUT CAN GO INTO THE DRAFT.

THAT CI THINK WILL PRESENT IT TO YOU AND WE CAN GET MORE INPUT.

AND I HAVE, I'M GONNA JUMP IN THE BAKER ROAD.

THAT'S, THAT'S A SAFETY ISSUE.

BAKER ROAD ALSO NEEDS IT'S TILE ON THE, THE CPI THAT OR WHATEVER.

SO, UH, THAT'S, I THINK THAT'S A HIGH PRIORITY STATION TWO, IT HAS LIVED ITS LIFE AND THEN SOME.

SO THAT'S ANOTHER ONE.

BUT WE NEED TO, TO NAIL DOWN WHERE WE THINK WE WANNA PUT IT.

I MEAN, THEY EVEN HAVE DIFFICULTY GETTING THE INDOOR UNITS IN THERE.

MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THAT STATION IS, YEAH.

SO, BUT MY CONSTITUENTS, I'VE NEVER HEARD ANY OF MY CONSTITUENTS TALK ABOUT A MUL MULTIPURPOSE ARENA THAT THEY DO TALK ABOUT A RECREATION CENTER A LOT.

SO I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT.

I WOULD HAVE A HARD TIME SELLING CITY HALL EXPANSION.

THEY'RE JUST NOT INTERESTED IN THAT.

SO THAT'S GOTTA GO WAY DOWN TO BAYWAY RECONFIGURATION CONSTRUCTION.

THAT'S WHAT I'VE HEARD A LOT ABOUT.

'CAUSE OF THAT CORRIDOR THROUGH THERE.

AND THEN LEAVE DRIVE RECONFIGURATION WITH NINE NINE, I THINK MAKES SENSE.

BUT I AGREE WITH, WITH HEATHER AND THE OTHER COMMENTS, IT'S TOUGH TO SAY, YEAH, WE, YOU KNOW, THESE ALL LOOK GREAT, BUT WHAT'S THE PRICE TAG ON 'EM? 'CAUSE YOU BRING THESE PRICE TAG THAT ARE LIKE THIS, WE'RE GONNA SAY THAT'S GONE.

UM,

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AND TO ME, IF THAT'S REALLY THE TREND IN THE FUTURE, SEEMS LIKE THE NEED FOR CITY HALL EXPANSION MAY BE A LITTLE LESSER THESE DAYS THAN IT WAS.

SO, YOU KNOW, IF THAT'S THE RATIONALE THAT WE FOLLOW TO DATE IT, IT SEEMS LIKE WE COULD USE THAT SAME RATIONALE GOES TO CITY HALL CAMPUS EXPANSION.

LISTEN, I, I BELIEVE IT NEEDS TO STAY HERE FOREVER IN DISTRICT ONE.

I BELIEVE THAT I, I JUST DON'T SEE A LOT OF DEFICIENCY.

AND LIKE I SAY, I'D LOVE TO SEE HOW THE GREAT RESIGNATION PLAYS OUT AND HOW SOME OF THESE WORK FROM HOME FLEX TIME AND ALL THAT TRANSPIRED, WE'LL SPEND MONEY ON, ON THAT PROJECT.

ALRIGHT, IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS? GOING BACK TO, UM, WHAT YOU SAID, CHRIS SAID, DEPENDING ON THE PRICE TAG, WE DISCUSSED THIS ON FINANCE COMMITTEE, A PRICE POINT IS GOING TO TRIGGER IT GOING TO VOTE, RIGHT? UM, YEAH, THAT'S PART OF THE MATRIX.

THAT'S PART OF THE MATRIX.

SO WHAT'S THE PRICE POINT? WE, I DON'T, 30 MILLION OR SOMETHING.

30 MILLION.

YEAH.

SO, AND LOOKING AT ALL OF THOSE, IT'S A GREAT OPPORTUNITY THAT MOST OF THAT'S PROBABLY GOING BE GOING TO VOTE.

IF IT'S GONNA BE TRIGGERED BY THE PRICE POINT THAT WE SET WITH THAT, UM, IT, IT'LL JUST BE US DECIDING WE WANT TO SPEND THAT.

UM, I'M KIND OF GLAD THAT YOU, UM, HAVE ENOUGH FORESIGHT TO ACTUALLY BRING THAT UP ON, BECAUSE THIS IS A LOT OF PROJECTS.

I MEAN, HOW MANY DO WE HAVE GOING ON IN THE CITY RIGHT NOW? HOTEL TO THE, THE LEAST OF THE CAPITAL PROJECTS? WELL, JUST, JUST, JUST THE MAJOR ONES.

WE HAVE HOTEL, WE HAVE PUBLIC SAFETY.

THERE'S NOT, THERE'S NEARLY A HUNDRED CAPITAL PROJECTS GOING ON.

A HALF BILLION IN DESIGN OR YEAH, THAT'S A LOT OF MONEY DEVELOPED RIGHT NOW, BUT I, I THINK OF YOUR, WHAT I WOULD CALL YOUR MARQUEE PROJECTS AND PROBABLY WHAT ANDREA, ABOUT 40, 40 12 AND CONSTRUCTION.

AND ONE THING TO ADD, UH, ABOUT THE PRIORITIZATION HERE, THE FACT THAT IT'S EVEN, DON'T BE DISCOURAGED IF SOMETHING'S AT NUMBER SEVEN OR NUMBER SIX BECAUSE YOU DON'T SEE THE A HUNDRED BELOW IT.

YOU KNOW, THESE, THESE ARE THE TOP TIER THINGS THAT WE'VE HEARD THROUGH OUR, OUR STRATEGIC PLANNING CONVERSATIONS WITH YOU THROUGH, UH, OTHER MEANS SURVEYS, UH, THAT SEEM TO BE, HAVE RISEN TO THE TOP OF THE CONVERSATION.

AND RICK, DO YOU THINK, AND COUNCILWOMAN, YOU KNOW, WOULD IT BE A STRETCH? DO YOU THINK THERE COULD BE ANY SYNERGIES THERE WITH THE MULTI-PURPOSE ARENA IN THE COMMUNITY AND REC CENTER? I MEAN, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SPORTS AND ACTIVITIES AND I MEAN, MAYBE THERE'S A POSSIBILITY, AN IDEA WHERE WE COULD COMBINE THOSE AND YOU KNOW, HAVE SOME IDEA AND COST SAVINGS AND, AND SYNERGIES POSSIBLY.

BUT IT PROBABLY WOULDN'T FIT.

WELL, IT MAY NOT THAT PROPERTY.

ALRIGHT.

UH, BUT THERE ARE OTHERS' HAVE TO GO .

INTERESTING IDEA.

IT'S THE SAME APPROACH WE TOOK TO THE PUBLIC SAFETY BUILDING.

YEAH, BUT RICK, YOU BROUGHT UP A GOOD POINT.

THERE'S A NUMBER OF POTENTIALS THAT ARE LISTED BELOW THIS, NUMBER SEVEN.

AND I, FOR ONE, IT'S KINDA LIKE, OKAY, SHOW ME THE TOP 20.

'CAUSE THERE MAY BE ONE AT 19 THAT I COULD ARGUE THAT I WANT IT IN THE TOP FIVE.

SO TODAY I DID, UH, SEND OUT THE FY 22 CIP, WHICH HAS ALL THE PROJECTS THAT WE'RE TRACKING LISTED.

THERE ARE SEVERAL THAT ARE LISTED OUT INTO THE, THE PLUS FIVE, WHICH IS THE UNFUNDED AREA.

AND SO, YOU KNOW, I, IT, IT, IT'S, I GET THAT TODAY IS THAT I'M LOOK AT IT WEEKEND, NOT PUT IT INTO THE FIVE YEAR CIP UNTIL IT, A FUNDING SOURCE IS IDENTIFIED.

OTHERWISE WE'RE JUST WASTING TIME.

SO YOU WILL SEE THAT, UH, ON THE EMAIL WE GOT TODAY, AND YOU'LL SEE IT ON THE DRAFT OF THE NEW CIP FOR F 23.

AND THAT'S WHERE YOU'LL HAVE, YOU KNOW, I, I WANT TO GET YOUR INPUT ON THAT, THAT DRAFT CIP SO WE CAN, I'M NOT, IT'S HARD ABOUT TO EXECUTE THE PLAN.

WE WANT TO HAVE A GOOD PLAN TO EXECUTE.

I'M GONNA HARP A LITTLE BIT.

I GOT IT TODAY.

OPENED IT UP, LOOKED AT IT.

I'LL READ THROUGH IT THIS WEEK.

OH YEAH.

BUT IT'S HARD TO HAVE A DISCUSSION ON IT TONIGHT.

EXPECT IT'S NOT TODAY.

THAT WASN'T RELATED TO THAT, THAT WASN'T RELATED TO THE DISCUSSION TONIGHT.

THIS IS A DISCUSSION WILL CONTINUE FOR THE NEXT YEAR.

RIGHT.

UH, IT REALLY TAKES A LOT OF THOUGHT.

AND WE BEGIN TALKING ABOUT IT NOW SO THAT FIVE, 10 YEARS FROM NOW WE START REALIZING THESE PROJECTS.

ANYTHING ELSE?

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APPRECIATE IT.

YEAH, THANKS FRANK.

DID I TEE THIS ONE OFF? SURE, GO AHEAD.

THIS WILL BE A RATHER QUICK, I I THINK IT'LL

[b. Discuss the restoration of the Baytown Fire Department 1947 Mack fire truck.]

IT'S A SUBJECT THAT I'VE BEEN ABLE TO, UH, ROACH WITH EACH OF YOU WITH OUR ONE-ON-ONES.

AND, UH, SOME YEARS AGO, ACTUALLY, COUNCIL, UH, FORMER COUNCIL MEMBER HOSKINS BROUGHT ME TODAY AT, UH, MIKE SHIELDS, UH, RETIREMENT, SAID, CAN I HELP ARGUE FOR THE REFURB OF THE M 47 FOR YOU TODAY? BECAUSE HE WAS ONE OF THE ONES THAT ORIGINALLY PROPOSED REFURBING, UH, THIS TRUCK TO BE USED FOR VARIOUS EVENTS.

AND, AND, UH, UH, I SAID, NO, THAT WOULDN'T BE NECESSARY, BOB.

UH, I GOT IT.

BUT, UH, THE REASON I ASKED THIS TO COME FORWARD TO YOU FOR A DISCUSSION IS, IS BECAUSE IT IS A SIGNIFICANT EXPENSE.

UH, IT WAS, IT WAS APPROVED SOME TIME AGO.

AT THE TIME IT WAS APPROVED.

OUR AMBITION WAS TO CREATE A VENUE AT THE PUBLIC SAFETY BUILDING TO DISPLAY THIS, UH, ENGINE VALUE ENGINEERING AND OTHER THINGS PERTAINING TO COST ESCALATIONS AND ET CETERA, ET CETERA, HAVE CAUSED US TO, UH, ELIMINATE THAT FEATURE OF THE PUBLIC SAFETY BUILDING.

SO WE DON'T HAVE THAT, THAT GLASS ROOM OR THAT, THAT, THAT WOULD THAT, UH, VENUE ANYMORE.

UM, THERE'S STILL AN IDEA THAT WE COULD CREATE, UH, A PLACE FOR PUBLIC VIEWING OF IT, UM, AT A NEWS STATION TWO OR SOME OTHER LOCATION AROUND TOWN.

IT'S, IT'S A PIECE OF OUR HISTORY.

IT CORRESPONDS WITH PRETTY CLOSE TO OUR FOUNDING AS A COMMUNITY.

UH, BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE THAT DISPLAY CAPABILITY AT THE PUBLIC SAFETY BUILDING ANYMORE.

SO I WANT YOU TO GO INTO THE SIZE WIDE OPEN AND SEE IF YOUR ENTHUSIASM IS STILL THERE TO GO GO FORWARD WITH THIS.

I DON'T WANT TO MAKE THE, YOU KNOW, UH, SPEND THE MONEY AND THEN TELL YOU, OH, DIDN'T I TELL YOU WE DON'T HAVE ANY WAY TO, TO SHOW IT OVER AT THE SAFETY BILLS.

I JUST WANNA BE TRANSPARENT WITH YOU.

THESE GUYS ARE GONNA TALK ABOUT THAT AND I THINK THEY HAVE A COUPLE OF PICTURES.

WELL JUMP IN THERE.

MAYOR, IF YOU DON'T MIND.

YOU SAID IT WAS ALREADY APPROVED, IT'S APPROVED BUDGET.

I THINK BUDGET APPROVED DID NOTHING.

THE DISCUSSION, I THINK IT'S BUDGET.

I SPEND THINGS JUST BECAUSE THE PUBLIC SAFETY BUILDING, IT WAS GONNA GO LIKE ON A, IT WAS APPROVED BASED ON THE FACT THAT IT WAS TO BE IN THE PUBLIC SAFETY BUILDING, BUT NOW IT WILL NOT GO THERE.

OH, SO UTILITY OF SPENDING THAT MONEY THE SAME AS IT WAS BEFORE.

I MEAN, IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S ON THE TRUCK ITSELF.

YEAH.

YEAH.

WHERE ARE CIRCUMSTANCES CHANGE? REGARDLESS IF IT'S BEEN APPROVED, I'M GONNA COME BACK AND TOUCH BASE WITH YOU AND LET YOU KNOW CIRCUMSTANCES WOULD CHANGE.

UHHUH, MS. FRANKS.

OKAY.

SO SHE STILL USE UTILIZE IT.

WHERE AND WHEN.

DON'T COVER THAT.

THANK YOU.

I'LL LET THEM OPEN IT ON THE WRONG COMPUTER.

I'M JUST TRYING TO GET IT OUT.

SO, UM, SO WHEN WE STARTED THIS DISCUSSION ABOUT THE, THE 47 MAC BACK ABOUT THREE YEARS AGO, UM, ASSISTANT CHIEF AARON SMITH STARTED LOOKING AROUND TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT WE COULD DO.

WE DIDN'T KNOW IF IT WOULD BE REFURBED IN IN COMPONENTS OR PARTS OR IF IT'D BE DONE AT ONCE.

WE HAD A LOT OF TROUBLE FINDING ANYONE WHO WOULD EVEN TOUCH IT.

AND, UM, WHEN WE STARTED GETTING IDEAS OF PRICES, PRICES WERE VERY HIGH.

SO WE KEPT HUNTING AROUND AND HUNTING AROUND AND, UM, REALLY WEREN'T HAVING MUCH SUCCESS.

WHEN, UM, WHEN CHIEF ROBERTS TOOK OVER, HE STARTED LOOKING AROUND AND WE FOUND A GENTLEMAN WHO REFURBED THE EXACT SAME TRUCK UP IN NEW YORK, SAME YEAR AND EVERYTHING.

AND SO THAT'S WHEN WE STARTED MOVING FORWARD, WHEN WE FINALLY HAD MADE SOME, SOME TRACTION, UH, ON, ON GETTING, UH, THE POTENTIAL FOR SOMEONE TO REFURB IT.

SO PART OF THAT, UH, COST THAT YOU, THAT WE, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT WAS ALSO TRANSPORTING IT UP THERE AND TRANSPORTING IT BACK THE TRUCK.

UM, DO YOU HAVE, I'M GONNA LET HIM GO THROUGH THE PICTURES REAL QUICK.

YEAH.

AND, AND A COUPLE OF THESE SLIDES, WE'LL GO THROUGH SOME OF THE SLIDES.

IT JUST SHOWS THE, THE NEW TRUCK ON THE RIGHT IS THE ONE HE DID TWO AND A HALF YEARS AGO.

OURS IS OBVIOUSLY ON THE LEFT.

UH, SAME MAKE AND MODEL.

SO PRETTY INTERESTING THAT I FOUND THE GUY TO DO THE EXACT SAME TRUCK.

UM, WE'LL GO THROUGH THESE, WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE.

UH, ONE OF THE THINGS, IT'S NOT JUST A, UH, REFURBISH AS IN PAINT AND ALL THAT, BUT THEY ACTUALLY GO THROUGH THE ENGINE, UH, REBUILD THE ENGINE, CARBURETOR IGNITION, UM, THE PUMPS, THE WATER PUMPS.

THE ONLY THING WE WOULD NOT DO IN THIS TRUCK IS MAKE THE WATER PUMP WORK.

IT WOULDN'T PUT OUT FIRE

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.

UM, A COUPLE OF PICTURES SHOWS WHAT THEY, YOU KNOW, WHAT THEY DID UP THERE TO THE TRUCK TWO AND A HALF YEARS AGO, HOW FAR THEY BREAK IT DOWN, YOU KNOW, NEW WINDSHIELDS, NEW CHROME.

UM, GOT A LIST OF THE THINGS THAT THEY DO.

MECHANICAL, YOU KNOW, THE PAINT BODY, THE SERVICE AGAIN, THE MECHANICAL, THEY'RE BREAKING DOWN THAT ENGINE, DOING A COMPRESSION TEST ON IT.

UM, PAINT BODY, YOU KNOW, MEDIA BLAST, THE WHOLE THING.

EPOXY PRYING, WHICH IS A GOOD THING, WHICH MEANS IT WILL LAST PROBABLY THE REST OF THE TRUCK'S LIFE.

UH, REDO THE CHROME, THE NICKEL NEW WINDSHIELD.

JUST AN OPTION UP THERE.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT MAYBE STATION TWO.

THIS IS JUST NORTH OF US IN CHANNELVIEW.

THEY DID THIS YEARS AGO.

UM, LOOKS PRETTY COOL.

UM, IT'S STILL, IT'S NOT A, THEY DRIVE THE TRUCK OUT, THEY USE IT IN THE PARADES AND ALL THAT.

UM, THE DOOR THERE ON YOUR LEFT IS THE DOOR THAT IT GOES IN AND OUT OF.

THROW SOME OPTIONS OUT THERE.

UH, FOUND THIS YESTERDAY.

INTERESTING TALKS ABOUT WHEN WE BOUGHT THE TRUCK.

WE BOUGHT THE TRUCK AND GOT DELIVERED ON DECEMBER 24TH, 1947 FOR CHRISTMAS, UH, TO GOOSE CREEK FIRE DEPARTMENT.

IT WAS A FEW WEEKS LATER THAT BAYTOWN, ALL THE CITIES MERGED TOGETHER AND IT WAS BAYTOWN.

SO PRETTY INTERESTING.

UM, COST $10,000 BACK THEN .

SO IT, IT IS OUR, I GUESS OUR FIRST CITY FIRE TRUCK.

FIRST CITY FIRE TRUCK.

AND UM, RIGHT NOW IT'S A STATION SIX.

YES SIR.

IT DOES NOT RUN AT THIS TIME EITHER.

UM, OUR MECHANICS HAVE TRIED TO KEEP IT GOING, BUT, UM, SOMETHING WE COULD DO.

SO $10,000 TO $750,000 IN THE DISPLAY.

THE SHORT SPAN.

NOT ONLY THAT, BUT BACK THEN IF YOU READ THE ARTICLE, THEY DID NOT HAVE ENOUGH MONEY TO PURCHASE THE TRUCK WHEN IT GOT DELIVERED.

SO THEY ACTUALLY RENTED THE TRUCK FOR 60 DAYS UNTIL THEY PAID FOR IT.

PRETTY INTERESTING ARTICLE.

AND WE DID SOME OTHER DUE DILIGENCE TOO.

WE WENT TO SOME OF THE LOCAL BODY SHOPS TO SEE WHO MIGHT BE ABLE TO HELP US OUT.

AND MOST OF THEM, ALL OF THEM SAID, UM, YOU KNOW, WE DO MODERN AS YOU KNOW.

AND YOU SAW THE WAY THEY BREAK IT DOWN, YOU HAVE TO MARK ALL THE PARTS, STRIP THE THINK, PULL THE APART, AND THEN FIX THE PIECES AND PUT IT BACK TOGETHER.

AND THAT'S WHY IT'S TOUGH TO DO IT IN THE PIECES.

I MEAN, AND THIS IS JUST A FEW OF THE SNAPSHOTS.

UM, IF YOU GO ONTO HIS WEBSITE, YOU CAN SEE EXACTLY HOW FAR THEY TORE THIS TRUCK DOWN.

AND OUR TRUCK IS ACTUALLY IN BETTER SHAPE THAN THEIRS UP NORTH.

UM, THEY HAD ACTUALLY REBUILD SOME OF THE TRUCK.

OURS IS ACTUALLY IN GOOD SHAPE WHEN IT COMES TO THE STRUCTURAL OF THE TRUCK ITSELF.

UM, SO, UH, QUESTIONS MAN, I, I REALLY WANT TO ANSWER SOME QUESTIONS.

I GUESS THE ONLY QUESTION IS THAT IT WAS BUDGETED.

I THINK IT WAS JUST WHERE WE'RE GONNA BE PLACED.

AND SO I DON'T KNOW REALLY KNOW WHAT THERE'S TO DISCUSS IF YOU THINK YOU HAVE A TEMPORARY PLACE AND THEN I DON'T LIKE WHAT THEY DID, I GUESS IN CHANNELVIEW OR WHEREVER THEY DID KIND OF BIT OF THAT, I GUESS YOU'D SAY.

UH, SHOWROOM.

SHOWROOM.

BUT IT CAN STILL BE UTILIZED.

BUT, SO WHAT'S THE COST? 80 2080.

THE TRUCKS 82 TRUCK REHAB AND THAT'S THE TRANSPORT.

AND NOBODY IN TEXAS WILL DO IT.

SO THE ONE OF THE ISSUES IS YOU GOTTA TAKE IT TO NEW YORK.

WELL I THINK IT'S ONE OF THE ISSUES IS IF I TAKE IT SOMEWHERE LOCAL, JUST SAY, UH, THEY HAVE TEXAS FIRE MUSEUM, WE SOURCE TRUCKS.

THEY WILL NOT GIVE YOU A PRICE.

THEY TELL YOU, HEY, WE CHARGE SO MUCH AN HOUR, YOU KNOW, OPEN CHECKBOOK KIND THING.

THE ONLY REASON WHY THIS GUY COULD GIVE ME A PRICE IS BECAUSE HE, HE JUST DID THE TRUCK TWO AND A HALF YEARS AGO.

SO HE KNOWS WHAT IT COSTS TO REDO THAT TRUCK.

THE OTHER ISSUE IS TEXAS FIRE MUSEUM THAT DOES 'EM, YOU KNOW, HE SAID, HEY, YOU WANT ME TO PUT YOU ON THE LIST? SAID, HOW FAR OUT IS THE LIST? HE GOES, AH, I GET TO YOU ABOUT THREE YEARS.

YOU KNOW? AND THAT'S MULTIPLE PEOPLE IS THEY'RE SO FAR.

DO WE HAVE TO GO OUT WITH VINCENT? WE DID.

WE DID.

RFP.

WE DID.

YES SIR.

WE DIDN'T GET ANY.

WE GOT THIS ONE.

YES MA'AM.

I JUST WANTED YOU TO BE AWARE OF THE CURRENT SITUATION.

I WANT TO THANK, UH, CHIEF ROBERTS FOR PUTTING IN SO MUCH WORK TO FIND A PLACE THAT WOULD DO THIS IN A TIMELY MANNER.

UH, I, I ENCOURAGE IT BECAUSE I BELIEVE IN THAT WE CAN UTILIZE IT IN OUR COMMUNITY.

I THINK IT'S ICONIC.

IT'S A, IT'S A GREAT, UH, PRESERVATION OF OUR, OUR HERITAGE AND OUR HISTORY AND, UH, WE WILL FIND A MORE PERMANENT HOME FOR IT IN THE NEAR FUTURE.

YES MA'AM.

UM, YOUR PROPOSAL IS TO, UH, SHOWCASE IT AT A FIRE STATION.

DO Y'ALL DO LIKE A LOT OF PUBLIC TOURS OF THAT? IS THAT SOMETHING THE PUBLIC COULD SEE? OH, YES MA'AM.

SO PEOPLE, STATIONS ARE OPEN.

PEOPLE COME BY ALL THE TIME.

AND I, YOU KNOW, STATION TWO WOULD BE A PRIME COVER.

WE'RE LOOKING TO REDO IT ACROSS FROM CITY HALL.

UM, GLASS DOORS ON THE FRONT.

IS THAT LIKE SMALL BAY WAS PRETTY COOL WHEN THEY DID THAT? YEAH.

AND THE, AND IT DOESN'T SHOW IN DETAIL, BUT THEY ACTUALLY MADE THE BAY LOOK, YOU

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PRETTY COOL.

THIS IS WHERE YOU GOING.

I LIKE THE IDEA THAT THE PUBLIC CAN VIEW IT.

I JUST DUNNO A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT GO TO OUR FIRE STATIONS.

SO I, UM, I LIKE THE IDEA OF IT, $82,000 IS A VERY PRICE.

I ACTUALLY TALKED TO A GENTLEMAN WHEN I WAS AT THE FIRE SCHOOL ABOUT TWO YEARS AGO, BUT WHEN I HEARD WE WERE TALKING ABOUT DOING IT AND HE TOLD ME WHAT IT COSTS FOR THEM.

SO WE'RE, WE'RE GETTING A VERY GOOD DEAL HERE.

REALLY VERY GOOD DEAL.

AS FAR AS WHERE IT'S GONNA GO.

WE HAVE ANOTHER PIECE OF MEMORABILIA THAT IS DEAR TO TEXAS.

WE STILL DON'T KNOW WHERE IT'S GOING AND WE DUNNO WHAT THE BOTTOM LINE COST IS GONNA BE ON IT.

THIS IS A PART OF BAYTOWN HISTORY.

I THINK THAT WE REALLY SHOULD, IF, IF WE DON'T KNOW, WE HAVE TIME TO FIGURE OUT WHERE WE WANT TO PUT IT.

WE GOT WHAT, SEVEN FIRE STATIONS HERE AND WE'RE LOOKING TO BUILD ANOTHER ONE, RELOCATE ANOTHER ONE.

I LIKE THE IDEA OF UH, FIRE STATION TWO.

UM, BUT THIS IS A PIECE OF OUR HISTORY.

WE REALLY SHOULD TAKE THE TIME AND CONSIDER INVESTIGATING.

OKAY.

UNTIL WE MAKE A FINE HOME, IN MY OPINION.

I THINK SO.

I HAVE BEEN HERE 19 YEARS AND IT HASN'T MISSED A PARADE IN 19 YEARS UP UNTIL THIS JULY 4TH AND CHRISTMAS.

'CAUSE IT'S DONE.

AND IF MR. TROLL WAS HERE, ACTUALLY HAD A PHONE CALL, WHY WASN'T IN YES, ACTUALLY PEOPLE NOTICED NOT, YEAH, I REALLY THINK PEOPLE WILL NOTICE IF WE GET IT REDONE AND PUT IT BACK IN THE PARADE.

OH YEAH.

TO BE, COULDN'T SEE SANTA CLAUS AS WELL OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

AND IF YOU NOTICED, UH, ONE THING I KNOW WE SHORT TIME YEAH, WE HAVE TO, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, UH, WE'RE LOOKING TO DO THAT WE DON'T HAVE IS AN ACTUAL PLACE TO SIT FOR SANTA CLAUS ON THE RIGHT.

I'VE, I'VE STOOD IN IT BEFORE AND ALL THE , WHAT WAS THE TIME LIMIT ON GETTING IT BACK? HE'S ABOUT EIGHT MONTHS, SO I'M TRYING TO GET IT FOR UH, CHRISTMAS OF THIS YEAR.

AND HE IS READY, .

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.

WE WOULD RELOCATE THIS ONTO A CONSENT AGENDA IN THE FUTURE, PROBABLY ON JANUARY 27TH.

WELL, MY QUESTION IS DID WE HAVE TO DO APPROVED? NO, IT WAS, YEAH, BUT IT WAS APPROVED.

THE ACTUAL CONTRACT FOR THE RESERVATION.

WE STILL HAVE TO APPROVE THIS AGENDA.

DECEMBER.

ALRIGHT, MOVING ON TO ONE

[c. Discuss the continuation of the Ad Hoc Committee for Animal Control Advisory Committee.]

DISCUSS THE CONTINUATION OF THE AD HOC COMMITTEE FOR ANIMAL CONTROL ADVISORY.

SO TREVOR, YOU'D LIKE TO SPEAK, BUT IN THE INTEREST OF SAVING TIME, Y'ALL AWARE OF THE HISTORY OF THE AD HOC COMMITTEE? WHEN WE EXPANDED THE, UH, ANIMAL CONTROL ADVISORY COMMITTEE, WE HAD TO BRING A BUNCH OF NAMES.

WE CREATED THE AD HOC COMMITTEE TO BRING THE NAMES FORWARD.

WE DID THOSE APPOINTMENTS THIS SUMMER.

UM, NOW WE HAVE OPEN POSITIONS BECAUSE SOMEONE COULDN'T FINISH THEIR TERM AND IT WASN'T ENTIRELY CLEAR TO US THAT HIS THE, THE FUTURE OF THE AD HOC COMMUNITY.

LET ME GIVE LET ME, LET ME JUST GO AHEAD AND, AND TELL YOU MY UNDERSTANDING.

I, I TALKED TO MS. JACKSON THIS AFTERNOON.

UNDERSTAND.

WELL I SAW WHEN THIS, UH, ITEM WAS POSTED AND AFTER WHAT, WHAT IS THERE TO FIGURE OUT.

AND SO AFTER SPEAKING WITH HER, THIS, THIS WILL BE MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT, UH, THE COMMITTEE, THEY DID MAKE APPOINTMENTS.

THEY DID FILL THEM IN THAT TIMEFRAME BEFORE THE NEXT MEETING WE HAD WHERE, UM, I ASKED MR TO CONTINUE EXIST IN THE CAPACITY FOR THE RULES OF PROCEDURE TO BE ESTABLISHED.

UH, A VACANCY DID OCCUR.

AND SO THAT VACANCY AND FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, WOULD, WOULD BE FILLED BY THE COMMITTEE, THE INITIAL COMMITTEE.

SO IF THEY MEET THE QUALIFICATIONS FOR THAT PARTICULAR VACANCY, THEN THEY HAD APPLICATIONS AND THEY WOULD CONSIDER 'EM AND THEN MAKE RECOMMENDATION TO COUNSEL.

AND THEN IT'S, THAT'S WHAT WE CLARIFICATION.

SO THE VACANCY WOULD BE SOMEBODY WHO WAS NOT ASSOCIATED IN ANY WAY, EITHER PAID OR UN WITH AN ANIMAL RIGHTS THAT SO GENERAL.

SO LET'S, LET'S, THAT'S THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING AFTER TALKING TO HER.

SO LET'S BE CLEAR.

SO, SO WE'RE SAYING THAT I, 'CAUSE I THOUGHT WE HAD TALKED ABOUT ONCE THE APPOINTMENT WAS MADE, THAT WAS THE END OF THE, THE AD HOC COMMITTEE.

NOW WE'RE SAYING THAT IT'S GONNA BE A STANDING AD HOC COMMITTEE.

NO.

SO TYPICALLY WHAT HAPPENS? NO, THIS IS ONE.

ONE.

THIS IS ONE.

YEAH.

SO TYPICALLY WHAT HAPPENS IS ONCE THEY FEEL THAT, THEN IT DISBANDS.

RIGHT.

WELL, WITH THIS PARTICULAR ONE, CAN YOU HEAR ME WITH THIS PARTICULAR ONE? WHAT HAPPENED WAS WHEN UM, ALL THE MEMBERS WAS APPOINTED, WE KNEW RIGHT

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SO THEN THE AD HOC COMMITTEE WAS GOING TO CONTINUE TO LOOK FOR SOMEONE TO REPLACE THAT PERSON.

SO IT'S UNCLEAR AS TO IS THEY DISMANTLED OR IS IT NOT? SO, SO THE 'CAUSE THEY TECHNICALLY WAS A POINT, THEY DID APPOINT EVERYONE, BUT BECAUSE WE KNEW TO TWO WEEKS LATER THAT THAT PERSON WAS COMING OFF, THEY WERE GONNA CONTINUE TO LOOK.

AND WE DID, UM, COUNCIL MEMBER, WE, WHEN WE SENT OUR RECOMMENDATION, I DID AT THAT POINT AS THE CHAIR, AFTER TALKING TO MY COMMITTEE THAT, OKAY, THIS WILL BE OUR LAST APPOINTMENT.

WE'RE NO LONGER GOING TO SERVE AS, UH, OVERSEEING THIS COMMITTEE.

SO MOVING FORWARD AFTER THIS NEXT, UM, APPOINTMENT, THEN IT'LL BE, YOU KNOW, BUSINESS AS USUAL THE REGULAR BASIS.

THIS IS THE LAST LOOSE ER.

YES.

WELL, AND THEN ONCE THEY FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH THE RULES OF PROCEDURE CAN COME IN.

YEAH.

BUT THAT'S AD HOC COMMITTEE DOESN'T APPOINT 'EM, THEY JUST MAKE THEIR RECOMMENDATION.

RECOMMENDATION, RECOMMENDATION.

CORRECT.

CORRECT, CORRECT.

AND THEN AGAIN, THEY HAVE TO MEET THE QUALIFICATIONS OF THE VACANCY.

YEAH.

ANY FUTURE VACANCIES I GUESS AT THIS TIME? JUST LIKE ANY OTHER VACANCIES, GUESS I KNOW CHRIS IS GOING THIS FIGHT.

I DON'T THINK WE WANT TO CREATE STANDING AD HOC COMMITTEE.

I UNDERSTAND YOU EXTENDED THEIR, ACTUALLY YOU EXPANDED THEIR TERM OF, OF DUTIES BY SAYING YOU WANTED THEM TO STAY TO HELP GET THE RULES DOWN IN PLACE.

I THINK THAT WAS A BIG NEWS AS WELL BECAUSE THERE'S SOME HISTORY THERE.

WELL, BECAUSE LEGAL SAID WE, WE COULD ESTABLISH IT BEFOREHAND UNTIL COMMITTEE.

SO I THINK THAT MAKES SENSE.

BUT YOU KNOW WHAT, HERE'S THE WHAT IF, OKAY, SO WHAT IF WE GET ANOTHER VACANCY BEFORE THIS IS OVER WITH? IF WE NO, AFTER THAT, AFTER THAT WE STILL HAVE THE EXPECTATIONS THAT THE AD HOC COMMITTEE'S GONNA HAVE TO AGAIN, GO THROUGH ALL STUFF AND THEY'LL TAKE APPLICATIONS.

SO THEY'LL CONSIDER THE PROCESS THAT WERE SUBMITTED AT THE TIME AND LIKE THEY DID LAST TIME.

WE NORMALLY DID.

AND YOU KNOW, LAST TIME WE GOT 'EM, WE GOT ALL OF 'EM, BUT WE GOT THE RECOMMENDATIONS.

UNLESS THERE'S SOMETHING FOR THE NEXT, UH, THE AGENDA THAT Y GET EM OFF THE HOOK.

.

BUT NO, I MEAN SHE'S, THE MS. JACKSON IS THE ONE WHO CLEARLY CLARIFIED EVERYTHING.

THOSE ARE ALL ITEMS THAT WE HAVE TODAY.

DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY ITEMS

[d. Discuss any or all of the agenda items on the City Council Regular Meeting Agenda for January 13, 2022, which is attached below.]