Dec 14, 2021 Baytown Police Advisory Committee

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OF THE BAYTOWN POLICE ADVISORY COMMITTEE TO ORDER FOR TUESDAY, DECEMBER THE 14TH, 2021 AT SIX O'CLOCK.

ALL RIGHTY.

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DO I HAVE A MOTION TO ACCEPT MOTION FIRST? I'VE GOT A SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR? ALL OPPOSED? AND IT'S CARRIED.

SECOND ITEM, MS. UH, MS. JACKSON, DO WE HAVE ANY PEOPLE SIGNED UP FOR CITIZEN INPUT? ALL RIGHTY.

SO THAT WILL SKIP ITEM NUMBER TWO.

SO WE'RE GONNA MOVE

[a. Discuss the possibility of a coalition of mental health professionals. ]

UH, THAT'S GONNA BE THREE.

A FIRST BUSINESS ITEM IS TO DISCUSS THE POSSIBILITY OF A CORRELATION, UH, CORE COALITION, COALITION.

I'LL LEARN HOW TO TALK HERE IN A MINUTE OF MENTAL HEALTH PROFESSIONALS.

AND SO I BELIEVE THAT'S GONNA BE LIEUTENANT DORIS FROM THE BAYTOWN POLICE DEPARTMENT.

HEY.

HEY, DORIS.

THIS IS ALRIGHT.

UM, I APPRECIATE Y'ALL LETTING ME COME UP HERE AND SPEAK A LITTLE BIT.

UH, I THINK I MENTIONED THIS AT THE LAST MEETING.

IT'S, IT'S BEEN A, THIS HAS BEEN A JOURNEY, UM, OVER THE PAST, I DON'T KNOW, SIX OR SEVEN MONTHS OR SO.

UM, UH, I GUESS STARTING IN MARCH, TRYING TO GET OUR MENTAL HEALTH PROGRAM UP AND RUNNING.

UM, I JUST WANNA KIND OF GO OVER REAL QUICK, A COUPLE OF, UH, BULLET POINTS.

SOME OF THESE THINGS I TALKED ABOUT, I BELIEVE, AT THE LAST MEETING WE HAD.

UM, BUT I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE KIND OF, UH, TOUCH ON 'EM ONCE AGAIN AND KIND OF, UH, BRING Y'ALL UP TO SPEED AND WHERE WE, WHAT WE'VE DONE SINCE OUR LAST MEETING AS WELL.

UM, AS Y'ALL KNOW, BACK IN, UH, MARCH OR APRIL.

SO WE REALLY STARTED, UH, UM, TAKING A DEEP DIVE INTO DEVELOPING OUR MENTAL HEALTH, UH, PROGRAM, OUR MENTAL HEALTH UNIT AT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

UM, WE'VE STARTED OFF WITH FIVE, UH, MENTAL HEALTH OFFICERS, AND I'M HAPPY TO SAY THAT AS OF YESTERDAY, WE'RE NOW AT 10.

AWESOME.

UH, WHICH I THINK THE FIRST TIME I CAME AND SPOKE TO YOU ALL, THAT WAS THE MAGIC NUMBER I HAD IN MY HEAD.

UM, BUT, YOU KNOW, AS WE ALWAYS FIGURE OUT IN THESE THINGS, WE'RE PROBABLY GONNA NEED MORE.

SO THAT'S JUST THE NATURE OF THE, OF THE BUSINESS.

BUT, UM, UM, I THINK THREE OF THOSE THAT WE HAVE ON THE TEAM NOW, I STILL NEED TO SEND A TRAINING.

SO I LIKE TO SAY I HAVE SEVEN AND THREE QUARTERS .

UH, BUT WE'RE GETTING THERE.

SO THAT'S, UH, THAT'S A GOOD THING.

AND ONE OF THE ENCOURAGING THINGS ABOUT THAT FOR ME IS, UM, THAT, THAT TELLS ME THAT, THAT OUR, OUR, OUR FOLKS ARE BUYING INTO IT, RIGHT? UM, THEY'RE BUYING INTO WHAT OUR VISION IS, THEY'RE BUYING INTO WHAT THE STRATEGIC PLAN IS, UH, FOR OUR CITY AND FOR OUR DEPARTMENT.

UM, AND SO THAT, THAT'S A VERY IMPORTANT THING FOR ME, UH, ALONG THE WAY.

WE, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE, THE STRUGGLES THAT WE HAD WAS HOW DO WE GET TO WHERE WE'RE FORMALIZED IN THIS VENTURE? SO, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE REALLY HAD TO DO WAS TAKE A LOOK AT, UH, POLICIES, OUR, OUR STANDARD OPERATING PROCEDURES.

HOW ARE WE ACTUALLY GONNA FUNCTION? SO A LARGE PART OF THE PAST FEW MONTHS HAS, UM, BEEN FOCUSED ON THAT.

UM, AND KIND OF HOW WE CAME TO THAT, JUST SO Y'ALL HAVE AN IDEA, YOU KNOW, WHAT ALL WENT INTO IT? BASICALLY WHAT I DID WAS I REACHED OUT TO 220 SOMETHING FBI, NATIONAL ACADEMY GRADUATES THAT I WENT TO THE NA WITH AND SAID, WHAT ARE YOUR RESPECTIVE UNITS DOING IN THIS REGARD? UM, SO I TOOK A LOT OF, UH, UH, GOT A LOT OF FEEDBACK FROM A LOT OF LAW ENFORCEMENT EXECUTIVES AROUND THE COUNTRY, UM, AND KIND OF CAME UP WITH WHAT, WHAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE IN PLACE.

UH, SO THESE, THESE, UH, SOPS THAT WERE OPERATING UNDER, THEY JUST WEREN'T SOMETHING THAT WE MADE UP ALONG THE WAY.

UM, OUT OF OUR OWN MINDS.

UH, A LOT OF IT CAME FROM A LOT OF EXPERIENCE FROM OTHER AGENCIES AND OTHER, OTHER EXECUTIVES.

UM, ONE OF THE BIG THINGS THAT WE DID, UM, THAT I THINK IS, IS GONNA BE EVEN MORE FRUITFUL AND MORE PRODUCTIVE THAN I THOUGHT IT WAS GONNA BE.

UM, WE ENTERED INTO AN MOU WITH THE, UH, HARRIS COUNTY, UH, SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT IN HARRIS HEALTH AND IDD, UH, TO BE A PART OF THE CORE PROGRAM.

AND FOR THOSE THAT DON'T REMEMBER WHAT CORE IS, IT'S THE CLINICIAN AND OFFICER REMOTE EVALUATION PROGRAM WHERE WE ACTUALLY PUT AN IPAD IN THE HAND OF OUR OFFICERS, WHICH EFFECTIVELY PUTS A CLINICIAN IN THE CAR WITH, WITH OUR OFFICERS.

UM, AGAIN, NOT KNOWING HOW THAT PROGRAM WAS GOING TO WAS GONNA PAN OUT.

UH, WE, WE STARTED OUT WITH 20 IPADS IS WHAT WE REALLY CRESTED FROM, UH, HARRIS HEALTH.

UH, I'M HAPPY TO TELL YOU THAT.

UH, WE GOT THOSE IPADS IN AND WE GOT OUR FOLKS TRAINED.

AND, UM, I'LL CIRCLE BACK TO THAT IN JUST A MINUTE.

UM, SO NO, THE LAST MEETING WE HAD, I THINK WAS ON THE 16TH OF NOVEMBER, GIVE OR TAKE.

WELL, ON THE 17TH OF NOVEMBER, I HELD A MEETING WITH ALL OF OUR MENTAL HEALTH OFFICERS, AND

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SO I CAN TELL YOU TODAY THAT WE ACTUALLY HAVE A MENTAL HEALTH UNIT THAT'S OPERATIONAL WITHIN THE BAYTOWN POLICE DEPARTMENT.

AWESOME.

THAT'S, THANK YOU.

SO, UM, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I TALKED ABOUT LAST TIME TOO WAS, UH, AS IN REGARDS TO THE CORE PROGRAM, WE HAD 20 IPADS THAT WERE, THAT WERE, UH, GIVEN TO US BY HARRIS HEALTH.

UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE DID, UH, WAS SPREAD THOSE ACROSS ALL OF OUR SHIFTS AS BEST AS WE COULD, SO THAT WE HAVE COVERAGE 24 7.

UM, AGAIN, THAT EFFECTIVELY PUTS A CLINICIAN ON OUR STREETS EVERY DAY OF THE WEEK, 24 HOURS A DAY.

UM, WE SELECTED 20 OFFICERS, UH, TO GET THOSE IPADS.

19 OFFICERS, ONE OF 'EM WENT TO OUR, OUR HOSTAGE NEGOTIATION TEAM.

UH, BUT 19 OFFICERS RECEIVED THEIR IPADS, UM, TO BE DEPLOYED ON THE STREETS OF THOSE 19 OFFICERS.

UH, 10 OF THOSE ARE, UM, UH, THE MENTAL HEALTH OFFICERS AND THE REST OF 'EM WENT TO MY FIELD TRAINING INSTRUCTORS.

UH, AGAIN, THE IDEAL BEING, WE WANT THIS TO BECOME PART OF OUR DNA.

OKAY.

UM, WHEN WE GET OUR NEW OFFICERS COME IN AND THEY GET EXPOSED TO THIS ON THE FRONT END OF IT, UH, WHEN THEY HAVE A AN INDIVIDUAL THAT'S IN A CRISIS, I WANT THIS TO BE AS NORMAL TO THEM AS PICKING UP THE RADIO AND CALLING 'EM FOR A DOG FOR A DRUG SNIFF.

IT'S JUST WHAT WE DO IN THIS BUSINESS.

RIGHT.

AND I WANT THAT TO BE PART OF OUR DNA.

THE CHIEF WANTS THAT TO BE PART OF OUR DNA, IT'S PART OF OUR STRATEGIC PLAN FOR IT TO BE PART OF OUR DNA.

AND SO THAT'S THE, THAT'S WHERE WE ARE.

UM, SO GOING BACK TO THE COURT PROGRAM, UH, LAST WEEK, THURSDAY, WE HAD OUR, OUR TRAINING WITH THE HARRIS COUNTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT.

THEY CAME OVER ALONG WITH THE FOLKS FROM HARRIS HEALTH AND PUT OUR OFFICERS THROUGH THE TRAINING, UH, FOR THE COURT PROGRAM.

UM, WE HAD TWO TRAINING SESSIONS, ONE IN THE MORNING FOR THE DAY SHIFT OFFICERS, ONE IN THE EVENING OR THE AFTERNOON RATHER, FOR THE NIGHT SHIFT OFFICERS.

UM, EVERYBODY SUCCESSFULLY WENT THROUGH THAT TRAINING.

UM, AND AGAIN, IT WAS, UH, GOING THROUGH THAT TRAINING, IT TOLD ME THAT THIS PROGRAM WAS GONNA BE EVEN MORE FRUITFUL THAN I THOUGHT IT WAS GOING TO BE, IF FOR NO OTHER REASON THAN THE RESOURCES THAT IT ALLOWS US TO HAVE AT OUR FINGERTIPS, LITERALLY.

UM, BECAUSE THROUGH THAT CORE PROGRAM, WE CAN PUT NOT ONLY THE CONSUMER IN TOUCH WITH A CLINICIAN TO GET HELP, BUT WE CAN ALSO PUT THE FAMILY IN TOUCH WITH THE CLINICIANS TO GET THEM SOME DIRECTION AND SOME HELP.

UM, AND THE WAY THAT THAT WORKS IS ONCE THE CLINICIAN, UH, DOES AN, AN EVALUATION OF THE CONSUMER, THAT PERSON'S INFORMATION IS NOW ENTERED INTO HARRIS HEALTH, AND THEN TYPICALLY WITHIN 24 HOURS OTT, WHICH IS THEIR MOBILE CRISIS OUTREACH TEAM, THEY WILL COME OUT AND DO A FOLLOW UP WITH THAT CONSUMER.

SO IT, THAT IS WHAT OUR GOAL IS, IS TO GET THE CONSUMERS AND THEIR FAMILIES THE HELP THAT THEY NEED SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO KEEP GOING BACK.

NUMBER ONE, THAT MOST, OR, OR ONE PART, BUT MOST MORE IMPORTANTLY THAT THEY GET THE HELP THAT THEY NEED.

RIGHT.

UM, BECAUSE WHAT WE FIND OFTENTIMES IS, IS, UH, THESE CONSUMERS, IT'S NOT THAT, IT'S NOT THAT THEY DON'T ALWAYS DON'T, THEY DON'T WANT HELP.

SOMETIMES THEY DON'T KNOW WHERE TO GO, DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO.

AND WE RECOGNIZE THAT WE'RE DEALING WITH 'EM FOR 15 MINUTES, AND THE FAMILY'S BEEN DEALING WITH 'EM FOR 15 YEARS.

UM, AND SO THE, THE IMPORTANT THING IS THAT WE GET PEOPLE COMING ON THE BACK END OF THIS, THAT ARE NON-LAW ENFORCEMENT TO GET THEM THE HELP THAT THEY ACTUALLY NEED.

UH, LIEUTENANT, CAN I ASK A QUESTION? ABSOLUTELY.

WITH, WITH THOSE 20 IPADS, WELL, LET'S JUST SAY THE 19 THAT ARE THERE, IS IT, IS IT A SAFE ASSUMPTION? AND I'M SAYING THIS, I THINK I KNOW THE, I KNOW THE ANSWER, BUT I THINK I'M JUST FOR, FOR CLARIFICATION FOR EVERYBODY AND FOR IT TO GO ON THE RECORD.

BUT WITH THOSE 19 IPADS, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT 80, 80 PLUS THOUSAND, YOU KNOW, UH, CITIZENS OF BAYTOWN, WE'RE EFFECTIVELY GOING, GOING TO HAVE A, A, A HIGHER, UM, POSITIVE INTERACTION, YOU KNOW, SATURATION WITH, WITH THOSE 19 IPADS THAN EVEN, THAN EVEN ALL OF HARRIS COUNTY.

AND THAT, THAT TO ME, IS, IS GOING TO BE A POSITIVE AM AM AM I LOOKING AT THIS CORRECTLY IN THAT IT'S GOING TO BE, IT'S GONNA REDUCE OUR, OUR ARREST RATES AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE BECAUSE WE'RE PUTTING TOOLS INTO THE FAMILY'S HANDS, NOT ONLY JUST IN OUR OFFICER'S HANDS.

CORRECT.

OKAY.

ABSOLUTELY.

ABSOLUTELY.

BUT, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, OUR, OUR FOCUS, AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I'VE TOLD OUR MENTAL HEALTH GUYS IS WE ARE CONSUMER CENTERED.

RIGHT? EVERYTHING THAT WE DO, OBVIOUSLY THE OFFICER SAFETY ASPECT IS, IS, YOU KNOW, PRIORITY, RIGHT? BUT, BUT WE ARE WHAT I CALL CONSUMER CENTERED.

IN OTHER WORDS, EVERYTHING THAT WE DO IS WITH THE CONSUMER'S BEST INTEREST IN MIND.

UM, AND AGAIN, OUR GOAL IS TO GET THEM HELP.

OUR GOAL IS TO GET THEM TO A SITUATION WHERE THEY DON'T, THEIR FAMILY DOESN'T HAVE TO CALL LAW ENFORCEMENT TO COME TO, TO COME INTERACT WITH 'EM.

SO THAT'S WHAT THE GOAL IS.

AND YES, THESE IPADS WILL DO JUST

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OKAY.

UM, UH, NOW IT'S LIKE ANYTHING, IT'S NOT GONNA SOLVE ALL THE PROBLEMS, RIGHT? UM, BUT IT IS A, ANOTHER TOOL IN OUR TOOL BELT TO GIVE OUR OFFICERS OPTIONS ON HOW TO DEAL, UH, WITH INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE IN A CRISIS.

UM, AND TO KIND OF HIGHLIGHT THAT, WE WENT THROUGH THE TRAINING THURSDAY MORNING FROM NINE TO, TO 11, 11 30.

WITHIN 15 MINUTES OF US BEING DONE WITH THAT TRAINING, ONE OF OUR OFFICERS ON THE STREET WAS DEALING WITH A PERSON IN THE MENTAL HEALTH CRISIS AND ASKED FOR ONE OF OUR MENTAL HEALTH OFFICERS TO CHECK BY THE MENTAL HEALTH OFFICER THAT CHECKED BY, JUST HAPPENED TO BE ONE OF THE ONES THAT JUST GOT OUTTA THE TRAINING.

SO HE WENT TO THE SCENE, PULLED OUT THE IPAD, DIALED UP A CLINICIAN, AND HAD A, A, A, A POSITIVE AND SAFE RESOLUTION TO THAT CALL, UH, RIGHT OUT OF THE, OUT OF THE TRAINING SESSION.

SO, VOLUNTARY TRANSPORT ON THAT ONE, RIGHT? CORRECT.

CORRECT.

THE, THE, THE CLINICIAN, THE, WELL, THE CONSUMER, WE'D BEEN DEALING WITH HIM THE PAST FEW WEEKS NOW, AND HE HAPPENS TO BE A MILITARY VETERAN.

UM, SO WHEN WE DIALED UP THE, THE, THE CLINICIANS, IT JUST SO HAPPENED THAT THE CLINICIAN THAT ANSWERED OUR CALL WAS A VETERAN, WAS A PSYCHIATRIST IN THE ARMY, SPENT SOME TIME OVERSEAS, UM, UNDERSTOOD THE EXPERIENCES THAT THIS GUY HAD AND WHAT HE WAS GOING THROUGH, AND WAS ABLE TO CONVINCE HIM TO VOLUNTARILY GO TO THE HOSPITAL AND GET SOME TREATMENT.

GOOD.

WONDERFUL.

SO, AGAIN, THAT IS A, THAT IS A, A VERY POSITIVE, UM, OUTCOME TO SOMETHING THAT COULD HAVE, YOU KNOW, BEEN, UH, TURNED OUT A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY.

GOOD.

RIGHT.

THANK YOU FOR SHARING THAT, THAT TESTIMONY ALREADY.

YEAH.

THAT'S JUST OUR, OUR FIRST SUCCESS, WHETHER IT'S NOT THE ONLY ONE RIGHT.

TRAINING.

THAT'S AWESOME.

YES.

SO, UM, JUST TO KIND OF PUT IT IN PERSPECTIVE FOR YOU, SINCE THE FIRST OF THE YEAR, FIRST OF THE YEAR, WE'VE HANDLED SOMEWHERE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF 170 CALLS, UH, WITH A MENTAL HEALTH COMPONENT TO 'EM.

UM, SINCE NOVEMBER 17TH, WHEN WE ACT, WHEN WE OFFICIALLY ROLLED OUT OUR MENTAL HEALTH UNIT, WE'VE HANDLED 25 CALLS.

UM, WE, SINCE THE NINTH, WE'VE HAD FOUR CORE, UH, IPAD DEPLOYMENTS, CORE DEPLOYMENTS, UM, SINCE THE, SINCE THE NINTH.

SO WITHIN THE PAST WEEK, WE'VE HAD FOUR.

UM, SO, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, IT'S, THIS IS ANOTHER TOOL IN, IN OUR OFFICER'S TOOL BELTS, RIGHT? TO, TO HELP US HAVE A, A POSITIVE, UM, OUTCOME ON THESE TYPES OF CALLS.

AND REALLY WHAT OUR HOPE IS, IS THAT WE CAN, UH, THROUGH THIS CORE PROGRAM, IS SOME OF OUR OTHER EFFORTS, UM, WE CAN REDUCE THE AMOUNT OF TIMES THAT WE HAVE TO BRING PEOPLE IN A MENTAL HEALTH CRISIS INTO OUR FACILITY THAT WE HAVE TO ARREST THEM, RIGHT? BECAUSE THAT'S, THAT'S NOT THE RIGHT PLACE FOR 'EM RIGHT NOW, THERE ARE SOME TIMES WHEN FOLKS IN A MENTAL HEALTH CRISIS COMMIT SOME KIND OF, UH, FELONY OR SOME HEINOUS CRIME THAT YES, WE HAVE TO PUT 'EM INTO THE SYSTEM, WE HAVE TO ARREST HIM, WE HAVE TO TAKE HIM TO JAIL, THE UPSIDE TO THIS CORE PROGRAM.

IN THOSE SITUATIONS, WE CAN ACTUALLY REACH OUT TO THE CLINICIANS, WE CAN DO, IF, IF POSSIBLE, WE CAN DO AN ASSESSMENT EITHER AT THE JAIL OR AFTER THE FACT.

UM, OR THE CLINICIANS CAN, UH, WE CAN TALK TO THE CLINICIANS AND THEY CAN MAKE ARRANGEMENTS AT THE COUNTY JAIL TO BE PREPARED TO ADDRESS THESE FOLKS WHEN THEY GET THERE.

RIGHT? SO, AGAIN, LIKE I SAID FROM THE VERY BEGINNING, A BIG PART OF THIS IS NOT JUST THE FACT THAT THERE'S A CLINICIAN THAT CAN TALK TO A CONSUMER, BUT IT'S THE RESOURCES, RIGHT? UM, AND IT MAY BE AS SIMPLE AS US.

WE JUST HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT SOMETHING.

WE CAN CALL THEM AND ASK THEM, UH, THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE THERE FOR.

AND IT'S, THEY'RE THERE 24 7.

AWESOME.

SO THAT, THAT IS, UM, UH, YOU KNOW, KIND OF WHERE WE ARE WITH THE MENTAL HEALTH, UH, UNIT.

OUR PROGRAM, UH, LIKE I SAID, FROM THE VERY BEGINNING OF THIS VENTURE, THIS IS JUST THE PLATFORM FOR US TO BUILD ON.

I, MY VISION IS FOR THIS TO, IS FOR THIS TO GROW, UM, IN, IN A LOT OF DIFFERENT WAYS.

UM, ONE OF THOSE WAYS, UH, CHIEF STRINGER AND I, UH, HE CAME TO ME AND ASKED ME, HEY, WHAT DO WE, WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT PUTTING TOGETHER A COALITION OF SOME SORT? UM, SO OVER THE YEARS, I'VE DONE A LOT OF WORK WITH KOTA, UH, ON SOME OTHER STUFF.

SO I REACHED OUT TO THEM, UM, MADE SOME ARRANGEMENTS TO MEET WITH A, UH, A PERSON FROM KOTA THAT DEALS WITH MENTAL HEALTH.

AND SO ONE OF THE THINGS WE'RE WORKING ON IS PUTTING TOGETHER JUST THAT WITH THE HELP OF KOTA, PUTTING TOGETHER A COALITION OF MENTAL HEALTH, UH, PRACTITIONERS, STAKEHOLDERS, UM, OFFICERS, UM, AND THE IDEAL THERE BEING, UH, YOU KNOW, KIND OF TWOFOLD, REALLY.

ONE, PUT NAMES WITH FACES, RIGHT? UM, BUILD SOME RELATIONSHIPS.

UM, BUT THE OTHER PART OF THAT TOO IS FOR US TO SHARE RESOURCES, SHARE IDEAS, UH, SHARE PROBLEM SOLVING, UH, TECHNIQUES AND, AND, AND, AND IDEAS.

UM, UH, YOU KNOW, JUST REALLY TO KIND OF HELP US BECOME, YOU KNOW, MORE, MORE ROUNDED IN A MORE ROBUST, UH, UH, MENTAL HEALTH UNIT.

UM, AND, AND REALLY AND TRULY TO HELP US PROVIDE A REALLY GOOD QUALITY OF SERVICE FROM THE MENTAL HEALTH SIDE FOR OUR COMMUNITY.

AND, YOU KNOW, LIKE I SAID A WHILE AGO, EVERYTHING THAT WE DO WITH OUR UNIT IS REALLY,

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UM, AND, AND SOME OF THESE STEPS THAT WE ARE TAKING ARE REALLY TO KIND OF, LIKE I SAID, INGRAINED THAT INTO OUR DNA.

UM, SO WE'VE, WE'VE MADE A LOT OF, LOT OF, UH, PROGRESS OVER THE PAST SIX MONTHS.

I'M VERY PROUD OF THAT.

I'M VERY HAPPY ABOUT THAT.

BUT WE STILL HAVE SOME WORK TO DO.

UH, THIS ISN'T THE, THE END OF IT.

WE'RE JUST GONNA KEEP BUILDING ON IT.

SO THANK YOU SO MUCH.

YOU'RE VERY WELCOME.

THAT IS AWESOME.

AWESOME.

ANY QUESTIONS FOR LIEUTENANT DORIS BEFORE WE MOVE ON? UM, I HAD VOLUNTEERED IN THE PAST, IF, IF, IF YOU NEED CIVILIAN, UM, MANPOWER, UH, IF YOU WANT, I CAN CONTACT, UH, LOCAL PSYCHOLOGISTS AND PSYCHIATRISTS, AND I'D BE WILLING TO LIKE, VISIT THEIR OFFICES AND PASS OUT THE, UM, THE FLYERS SO PEOPLE CAN, THEY CAN DISTRIBUTE 'EM TO THEIR PATIENTS TO GET THE STICKERS IF YOU NEED VOLUNTEER HELP THAT WAY.

AND POSSIBLY, YOU KNOW, AS I SAY, TALK UP THE PROGRAM AND THEY COULD BE POSSIBLY PART OF YOUR COALITION.

UM, OR IF YOU WANNA POSSIBLY CALL A MEETING OR SAY, HEY, ALL OUR HEALTH, OUR, UH, MENTAL HEALTHCARE PROFESSIONALS IN BAYTOWN, WE'RE HAVING A DINNER AT LUNA'S, OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

YOU KNOW, PLEASE JOIN US.

UM, I'D BE WILLING TO DO SOME FOOTWORK ON THAT IF YOU NEED TO.

OKAY.

AND I APPRECIATE THAT MM-HMM .

AND I'M GLAD YOU MENTIONED THAT.

UH, THAT IS, THAT'S ACTUALLY ONE OF THE PIECES THAT, UH, DANIELLE FROM KOTA IS GONNA TRY TO HELP US WITH.

BUT I'LL MOST CERTAINLY TAKE YOU UP ON THAT OFFER.

UM, THE DECALS, I, I CAN TELL YOU TOO, WE'VE, WE'VE ACTUALLY DEPLOYED SOME OF THOSE DECALS ALREADY.

WE'VE HANDED SOME OF THOSE OUT.

UM, KIND OF THE WAY THAT LOOKS IS WHEN OUR, OUR, UH, FOLKS FROM OUR MENTAL HEALTH UNIT GO TO THESE CALLS.

THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, THAT THEY'RE DOING.

THEY'RE OFFERING THESE TO, EITHER TO THE CONSUMER OR TO THE CONSUMER'S FAMILY.

MM-HMM .

UM, AND A LOT OF TIMES WE GET FIXATED ON THE CONSUMER, BUT THAT FAMILY PIECE IS JUST AS, JUST AS, IF NOT MORE IMPORTANT, UM, BECAUSE THEY'RE THE ONES THAT HAVE TO, TO, TO HELP THESE PEOPLE EVERY DAY.

UM, SO, SO WE ARE, UM, WE ARE DOING THAT, SO.

AWESOME.

DO YOU MIND IF I KIND OF FOLLOW ON, GO AHEAD.

WHAT HE WAS SAYING AS WELL, UH, TODAY I ATTENDED THE, UH, DAKOTA, UH, COALITION MEETING AS WELL.

CAN YOU TELL ME WHAT DAKOTA STANDS FOR? IT IS BAY AREA COUNCIL ON DRUGS AND ALCOHOL.

THERE YOU GO.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

I'M GLAD YOU SAID IT.

'CAUSE I WAS ABOUT TO HAVE TO LOOK FOR IT.

, WHAT IS IT? DAKOTA BAY AREA COUNCIL ON DRUGS AND ALCOHOL.

OKAY.

AND SO, EVEN THOUGH THEY, THEY FOCUS ON DRUGS AND ALCOHOL, CERTAINLY THERE'S A MENTAL HEALTH COMPONENT TO THIS.

VERY OFTENTIMES, WE KNOW THAT, UH, MENTAL HEALTH CONSUMERS ARE, ARE SELF-MEDICATING.

AND, UH, IT JUST LEADS TO, TO MORE PROBLEMS WHEN WE CAN'T TIE THEM INTO THE RIGHT RESOURCES, WHICH IS WHAT THE COALITION THAT WE TALKED ABOUT PUTTING TOGETHER IS DESIGNED TO DO, IS TO, THERE, THERE'S JUST SOME THINGS THAT THE POLICE OFFICER ON THE STREET CAN'T DO, NOT QUALIFIED TO DO, SHOULDN'T BE DOING AN INTEREST TO THE COMMUNITY AND THE OFFICER.

UH, BUT THIS HELPS US IDENTIFY THOSE AREAS AND KEEP PEOPLE FROM FALLING THROUGH THE CRACKS IN OUR SYSTEM.

UM, SO, UH, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, UH, THAT, THAT WE DISCUSSED WAS, UH, BAYTOWN POLICE DEPARTMENT PARTNERING WITH, UH, WITH DAKOTA TO ASSIST IN, IN, UH, A ROLE IN DETERMINING, UH, UH, HOW WE CAN HELP THEM WITH SOME OF THEIR COMMUNITY COALITION GRANTS.

THEY HAVE A, A COVID GRANT THAT IS REALLY FOCUSED ON ENHANCING THE ENVIRONMENT, AND THEY'VE CHOSEN TO FOCUS FROM, THEY'VE CHOSEN TO FOCUS ON BAYTOWN, AND IT INCLUDES THE PARKS, UH, BECAUSE DEPRESSION AND ANXIETY AND, UH, ALL, ALL THESE OTHER FACTORS THAT HAVE IMPACTED PEOPLE OVER THE LAST YEAR AND A HALF, TWO YEARS NOW WITH, UH, WITH COVID AND BEING COOPED UP INSIDE AND ISOLATED.

THEY'RE TRYING TO GET PEOPLE OUT.

SO THERE ARE THINGS THAT THEY'RE GONNA BE DOING TO ENHANCE THE, UH, THE ENVIRONMENTS IN OUR PARKS.

AND WE ARE GOING TO PARTNER WITH THEM ON THAT BEYOND JUST GIVING THEM THE STATISTICAL DATA THAT THEY'RE LOOKING FOR.

UH, WE WANT TO BE A PHYSICAL, UH, PRESENCE IN THE PARTNERSHIP WITH 'EM.

NOW THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT DOING YOGA IN THE PARKS.

SO I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE GONNA SEE OFFICERS OUT DOING YOGA OR NOT, BUT, UM, I VOLUNTEER STEVE WITH CANIS.

I THINK HE'D BE GREAT ONLY IF RODNEY GOES OVER HERE.

IF THAT HAPPENS, I MIGHT GET, TAKE PICTURES, VIDEOS, STEAKHOUSE, .

SO, SO THOSE ARE THINGS THAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT DOING THAT WE WANT HELP 'EM WITH.

THERE'S ALSO SOME, UH, UH, THINGS THAT WE CAN DO TO HELP MAKE THE PARK SAFER.

AND IT'S THE FEAR OF CRIME THAT VERY OFTEN IMPACTS PEOPLE'S WILLINGNESS TO USE PLACES LIKE THAT.

SO WE'RE GONNA FIGURE OUT HOW WE CAN PARTNER WITH 'EM ON THAT.

UM, AND, AND, AND THEY ARE WILLING TO, LIKE, UH, LIEUTENANT SAID, HELP US FIND THOSE RESOURCES AND EVEN PROVIDE SOME OF THE VENUES FOR, FOR MEETING WITH A MENTAL HEALTH COALITION.

GOOD.

AND, YOU KNOW, THE WHOLE IDEA BEHIND THAT IS JUST LIKE HE SAID, TO PUT FACES TO NAMES, BUT ALSO THAT WE CAN CONTINUE TO DISCUSS THE TRENDS THAT WE'RE SEEING ON THE STREET AS LINE LEVEL OFFICERS, SHARE THAT AMONGST AGENCIES,

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AND ON THAT, I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE EFFORT THAT YOU HAVE PUT INTO THIS.

YES, YOU HAVE WORKED, UH, LONG HOURS ON IT.

THERE HAVE BEEN TIMES THAT I'VE ASKED HIM WHY HE'S STILL AT WORK OR WHY HE'S IN SO EARLY.

UM, AND THEY KNOW THAT I'M BIG ON OFFICER MENTAL WELLNESS TOO, RIGHT? SO, UM, BUT, UH, LIEUTENANT DORIS HAS DONE AN OUTSTANDING JOB ON THIS.

HE'S A HARD CHARGER, AND, UH, HE HAS A PASSION FOR IT.

AND HE IS ABSOLUTELY THE RIGHT, UH, THE RIGHT, UH, LEADER FOR THIS PROJECT.

WELL, CHIEF, YOU BEAT ME TO THAT.

THANK YOU.

AND APPRECIATION.

AND, UM, IT'S, IT'S ALREADY WE'RE SEEING THE, THE, UH, THE GREEN RIBBONS ON THE, ON THE, UH, OFFICERS ALREADY.

AND I'M, I KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THAT IS, AND I KNOW THAT THEY'RE WELL TRAINED.

SO WE REALLY APPRECIATE ALL THAT YOU'VE DONE INTO THIS, AND WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO THE POSITIVE RESULTS AND IN THE VERY NEAR FUTURE, MORE TESTIMONIES COMING OUT OF IT.

ABSOLUTE.

AGAIN, THANK, THANK Y'ALL.

THANK YOU FOR THOSE KIND WORDS.

I REALLY APPRECIATE IT.

UM, I, I WILL TELL YOU, WHEN I FIRST GOT ASKED TO TAKE ON THIS PROJECT, I DIDN'T KNOW, I, I'M AN OLD NARCOTICS GUY, OKAY.

I SPENT, YOU KNOW, 90% OF MY CAREER IN INVESTIGATION AND NARCOTICS.

SO I DIDN'T KNOW HOW THIS WAS GONNA LOOK OR HOW THIS WAS GONNA WORK.

UM, BUT I'VE HAD, I, I CAN'T SIT HERE AND TELL YOU THAT IT WAS ALL ME, UH, UH, SERGEANT OR RATHER LIEUTENANT KROLL NOW, UH, HE HELPED ME QUITE A BIT.

UM, SOME OF THE OTHER GUYS DID, SOME OF OUR OFFICERS, UH, HELPED US, HELPED ME QUITE A BIT, NOT JUST WITH PUTTING THIS TOGETHER, BUT UNDERSTANDING THE NEED FOR IT AND UNDERSTANDING WHAT GOES INTO IT, AND UNDERSTANDING THE DILEMMAS THAT THEY FACE ON THE STREETS.

UM, SO THIS ISN'T, THIS ISN'T A ME THING.

YEAH.

THIS ISN'T A ME THING.

THIS IS A COLLECTIVE, WE'LL PASS ON OUR APPRECIATION FROM, BEEN A LOT OF WORK FROM BPAC FROM THE BACK END.

SO, UM, EVERYBODY FROM OFFICERS TO OUR, OUR DISPATCH PEOPLE HELPING US DO SOME OF THE BACK OFFICE STUFF, OUR IT PEOPLE HELPING US DO SOME OF THE REPORTING STUFF.

UM, SO YEAH.

I I, I, I DO APPRECIATE IT.

I APPRECIATE THE KIND WORDS.

I REALLY DO, BUT IT'S, THIS IS NOT ME.

THIS IS, THERE'S, THERE'S A WHOLE BUNCH OF PEOPLE IN THE BACKGROUND DOING A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS.

SO, BUT THANK YOU.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

THANK YOU.

WE APPRECIATE IT.

WE APPRECIATE IT.

I, UH, WANT TO JUST TAKE A QUICK MINUTE.

I SHOULD HAVE DONE THIS BEFORE WE STARTED, BUT I WANT TO JUST TAKE A QUICK MINUTE AND WELCOME LIEUTENANT, UH, RODNEY EVANS TO THE COMMITTEE.

UM, HE IS, UH, REPLACING, UH, NOW OR SOON TO BE LIEUTENANT RENEE HINOJOSA.

WE WANNA WELCOME, UH, LIEUTENANT EVANS TO BAYTOWN POLICE ADVISORY COMMITTEE.

SO, WELCOME SIR.

THANK YOU.

ALRIGHTY.

AND, UH, WE'RE GLAD TO HAVE HIM ON BOARD WITH US.

[b. Receive an update regarding the Baytown Police Department's Crisis Intervention Team.]

I THINK YOU, YOU HAD THAT AS WELL WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT THE CORE PROGRAM AND SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT, THAT ALRIGHTY.

HAVE DONE.

ALRIGHTY.

SO, THREE

[c. Discuss and consider means to obtain greater citizen input.]

UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I DID, UH, A VERY, VERY BRIEF RESEARCH IN, AND THEN I, I WAS TALKING TO MS. JACKSON JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT I WAS THINKING RIGHT, AND THAT IS THE BAYTOWN ENGAGE.

THEY DID AN INITIATIVE, UM, TO KIND OF GATHER SOME OF THE INFORMATION.

AND THIS IS JUST A, A DISCUSSION OPPORTUNITY AND SUGGESTION.

NOT SAYING WE HAVE TO GO WITH THIS, BUT THEY DID SOME SOCIAL MEDIA OUTREACH, SOME SHORT VIDEOS, UM, DIFFERENT THINGS.

UM, IF, IF WE ARE WANTING TO GARNER MORE INFORMATION FROM, UH, THE CITIZENS OF BAYTOWN, UH, WE DO HAVE SEVERAL DIFFERENT OPTIONS THAT COULD BE AVAILABLE TO US.

AND SO, UM, WE'VE GOT SOCIAL MEDIA, WE'VE GOT, YOU KNOW, UH, SOME RESOURCES, UH, THROUGH THE LIBRARY, UH, SABRINA MARTIN.

UM, BUT WE WOULD HAVE TO MOVE FAST BECAUSE I BELIEVE SHE'S GONNA BE GOING OUT ON SOME, UM, LEAVE HERE IN THE, IN THE COMING MONTHS.

SO THERE'S, THERE'S SEVERAL OPTIONS.

WE JUST NEED TO LOOK AT WHAT WE CAN DO.

SO JUST, UH, ANY, ANY SUGGESTIONS THAT WE NEED TO, UH, CONSIDER LOOKING AT TO OBTAIN GREATER CITIZEN INPUT AND GET SOME IDEAS ON WHAT, UH, THE CITIZENS OF BAYTOWN HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT THAT WE, WE NEED TO CONSIDER HERE AT THE BAC.

I MEAN, WOULD YOU WANNA OPEN IT TO LIKE NOSY BAY TOWN OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT ON FACEBOOK? ANYTHING THAT OBSCURE? I THINK IT WOULD PROBABLY WORK BEST IF IT WAS IN A CONTROLLED ENVIRONMENT, BUT, UH, WE, WE KNOW,

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UM, AND SO WE DO WANT TO, WE DO WANT TO GIVE PEOPLE A VOICE, BUT AT THE SAME TIME BE ABLE TO, UH, HAVE, HAVE THE ABILITY TO DECIPHER WHAT IS LEGITIMATE CONCERNS VERSUS JUST VOICING TO BE VO.

HAVE YOU REACHED OUT TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD WATCH ORGANIZATIONS? I HAVE NOT PERSONALLY.

I, I HAVE, SO I'M IN DISTRICT FOUR, AND I'VE REACHED OUT TO THE HOAS, THE CHURCHES, THE APARTMENTS, AND THE, UH, LOCAL NEIGHBORHOOD WATCHES AND HAD CONVERSATIONS.

UM, AND MOST OF THEM PEOPLE WILL COME REPRESENTATIVE OF THEIR QUESTIONS.

BUT I, I FEEL LIKE I'M MEETING WITH PEOPLE WHO ARE VERY WILLING TO COME FORWARD, AND I WOULD RATHER FOCUS ON A LARGER PERCENT OF THE POPULATION, ESPECIALLY THOSE THAT ARE RELUCTANT TO COME FORWARD, BECAUSE THOSE ARE THE PEOPLE THAT I THINK THAT ARE UNDERREPRESENTED IN THEIR, IN THEIR, IN THEIR VOICE, IN THEIR CONVERSATIONS.

THEY HAVE VARIOUS REASONS FOR BEING, UH, RELUCTANT.

BUT I'D LIKE TO FIND WAYS TO REACH OUT TO THEM AND, AND GET THEM EITHER AS AN ORGANIZATION AS A WHOLE, OR AT LEAST WITHIN THE DIFFERENT DISTRICTS, HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS AND GET THAT REPRESENTATIVE CONVERSATION COMING BACK TO US SO WE CAN GET IT IN FRONT OF PEOPLE AND SEE WHAT WE CAN DO.

WE HAVE ALSO, UH, BEEN WORKING WITH, UH, PASTOR ERNIE BRYSON FROM ST.

JOHN'S METHODIST.

UH, HE AND I ARE WORKING ON RESURRECTING THE BAY AREA MINISTERIAL ALLIANCE.

AND IN THE HOPES OF GETTING THAT, UH, GETTING THAT INFORMATION TO OUR PASTORS AND, UH, LEAD PASTORS AND SENIOR PASTORS IN THE AREA SO THAT THEY CAN THEN, YOU KNOW, BE DISSEMINATED OUT.

THAT'S ANOTHER WAY, UH, THAT WE'RE, WE'RE LOOKING AT IT, BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST GETTING THE WHEELS TURNING ON THOSE.

BUT ANY OTHER, ANY OTHER SUGGESTIONS, IDEAS THAT WE CAN, WE SHOULD CONSIDER, UH, MOVING FORWARD ON? HOW ABOUT THE BACK OF WATER BILLS? PUT A SURVEY ON THE BACK OF A WATER BILL.

I DON'T KNOW THE LEGALITIES OF THAT.

AND I KNOW WE'VE GOT A LOT OF SURVEYS THAT HAVE BEEN FLOODING OUR, EVERYBODY GETS WATER BILLS.

UH, DO THEY READ 'EM THOUGH? , SO MANY THINGS ARE AUTO PAY NOW.

UM, READ 'EM ABOUT THREE DAYS LATE.

YEAH, I DON'T EVEN READ IT.

I JUST LOOK HOW MUCH YEAH, LOOK, EXACTLY.

THROW IT AWAY AND PUT IT IN FREEZER.

.

I'M NOT OPPOSED TO IT.

I JUST DON'T KNOW THE LEGALITIES AND THE, THE, THE PARAMETERS OF, OF THAT KINDA STUFF.

HAVE YOU GUYS THOUGHT ABOUT MAYBE REACHING OUT TO, UH, BRI BRIAN? DIDN'T BRIAN HELP WITH THE, THE SURVEYS FOR THE, UH, FOR THE STRATEGIC PLAN WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT? RIGHT.

I DON'T BELIEVE THOSE WERE WATER BILL ORIENTED.

A LOT OF TIMES WATER BILLS, WE'VE GOT A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS.

SO THEY'RE SCHEDULED ALL OUT.

I DON'T KNOW.

DON'T PRETEND TO KNOW WHAT THEY HAVE SCHEDULED.

SO I DON'T KNOW HOW VALID OR HOW, HOW GOOD THAT WOULD BE, BUT THAT'S CERTAINLY SOMETHING THAT COULD BE LOOKED INTO.

MAYBE WE COULD, COULD LET YOU KNOW WHEN IT'D BE AVAILABLE.

AND YOU KNOW WHAT, MAYBE SOME OF THE THOUGHTS ON THE PAST, IF WE'VE DONE IT THAT WAY, COULD, COULD I, THIS IS A SUGGESTION AND MAYBE KAREN OR UH, OR ANGIE MAY BE ABLE TO SAY THIS.

WOULD, WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE FOR US TO RECEIVE JUST A BRIEF, UM, SYNOPSIS OF, OF WHAT, WHAT IS THE PARAMETERS OF HOW, WHAT WE CAN DO AS A COMMITTEE TO COMMUNICATE WITH THEIR, THAT WAY WE CAN, RATHER THAN JUST PULLING SO MANY IDEAS IN FROM THIS, WE CAN ACTUALLY SAY, YOU KNOW, THIS IS WHAT WE CAN DO.

IS THAT, AM I MAKING SENSE ON MY QUESTION, OR I'M NOT SURE I ACTUALLY UNDERSTAND.

I THINK THAT THE, THE GOAL OF THIS COMMITTEE IS TO REACH OUT TO THE COMMUNITY AND CORRECT.

GET THE COMMUNITY INPUT.

SO I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, IF WE CAN BRAINSTORM IDEAS THAT YOU WANNA TRY, YOU KNOW, ABSENT ANY, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING THAT WE, A LINE THAT WE CROSS, I DON'T KNOW THAT THERE IS A LINE.

OKAY.

UM, WE JUST NEED TO TRY TO REACH OUT TO OUR CONSTITUENTS AND REASSURE ABSOLUTELY.

THE CITIZENS OF BAYTOWN THE BEST THAT WE FEEL LIKE WE CAN REACH OUT TO THEM, SO.

OKAY.

ALRIGHTY.

HOW ABOUT ONE OF THOSE CLICK POLLS OR A POLL ON THE BAYTOWN SUN? ANY POSSIBILITY OF THAT? UM, I'M SURE DAVID WOULD LOVE SOME IDEAS FOR POLLS IF Y'ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS YOU'D LIKE TO GET.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHTY.

UM, WELL, SINCE WE'RE NOT MOVING TOO FAST HERE ON THIS, IF YOU DO HAVE ANY SUGGESTIONS, UM, DEFINITELY, YOU KNOW, SEND IT OVER TO ME AND I'LL, WE'LL COMPILE IT OR WE'LL SEND IT TO ANGIE AND, AND, UH, SEND IT.

OH, SHE'S SAYING SHE'S POINTING BACK AT ME.

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SO THAT , WELL AVOID OF ANY QUORUM ISSUES IT NEEDS TO GO TO ANGIE.

YEAH.

ANY, IF IT'S, IF IT'S A MASS COMMUNICATION, THEN, UH, SEND IT TO, TO, TO ANGIE.

BUT IF IT'S JUST ONE OR TWO OF YOU, JUST SEND ME A NOTE AND I'LL MORE THAN READY TO, UH, PROBABLY BEST TO SEND AN ANGIE.

'CAUSE YOU WON'T KNOW IF IT'S ONE OR TWO AND THE OTHERS WON'T BE TALKING TO EACH OTHER EITHER.

SO IT'S PROBABLY BEST JUST TO SEND IT.

ALL RIGHTY.

SEND IT TO ANGIE.

ALRIGHTY, ALRIGHTYY.

[d. Discuss and consider establishing goals for the Baytown Police Advisory Committee for the 2022 calendar year.]

3D IS TO DISCUSS AND DECI CONSIDER ESTABLISHING GOALS FOR THE BAYTOWN POLICE ADVISORY COMMITTEE FOR THE 2022 CALENDAR YEAR.

UM, I DO HAVE A COPY OF OUR BUCKET LIST, WHICH I THINK LIEUTENANT DORIS AND COMPANY HAVE DONE A PHENOMENAL JOB OF EMPTY, PRETTY MUCH EMPTYING OUT OUR MENTAL HEALTH BUCKET.

I'M NOT GONNA COMPLAIN ABOUT THAT FOR SURE.

UM, BUT ARE THERE ANY, ANY ITEMS THAT WE NEED TO CONSIDER, UM, IN, IN THE 22, UH, MEETINGS THAT NEED TO BE ADDRESSED? REFRESH YOUR MEMORY WITH THE BUCKET, SIR.

THAT'S WHAT I'M GETTING TO.

OKAY.

GIMME JUST A SECOND.

THEY'RE SO ORGANIZED.

OKAY.

SO OUR FIRST BUCKET IS GOING TO BE, UM, WAS THE MENTAL, MENTAL ILLNESS, UH, ONCE A DAY.

UH, AND THEN THE SECOND ONE WAS GOING TO BE TRANSPARENCY AND ACCOUNTABILITY.

THIRD BUCKET WAS TRAINING AND DEVELOPMENT, AND THE FOURTH BUCKET WAS POSITIVE ENGAGEMENT.

SO, UM, I THINK IF WE, I THINK, YOU KNOW, IF WE NEED TO ADD ANOTHER BUCKET OR, UH, CONSIDER, UH, DIGGING INTO THE THREE, THREE OTHER, THE THREE REMAINING BUCKETS THAT WE HAVE HERE NOW, I THINK IT WOULD BE WORTHWHILE, YOU KNOW, TO PUT SOME, START PUT, PUTTING SOMETHING ON THE AGENDA NOW FOR THE 2022, I'D LIKE TO SEE MORE ON THE TRANSPARENCY BUCKET, MORE ON THE TRANSPARENCY BUCKET.

OKAY.

ANY OTHER, ANY OTHER COMMENTS ON THAT? SO, IN MY CONVERSATIONS WITH PEOPLE IN MY DISTRICT, THE THING THAT RESONATES THE MOST IS THEY, THEY'RE AFRAID OF THE CRIME THAT HAS RISEN.

THEY'RE AFRAID TO GO OUT AND BE OUT IN PUBLIC SOMETIMES BECAUSE THEY JUST SAY, I, I, THE CRIME'S GOTTEN SO BAD, I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY HOW TO ADDRESS THAT.

YOU KNOW, IS IT SOMETHING THAT WE LOOK AT, UH, BPD TO RESOLVE? NO, THIS IS, THIS IS A JOINT EFFORT.

SO, BUT THEIR CONCERNS ARE THAT IF THEY GO TO FOOD TOWN, WILL THEY BE SHOT? AND THAT THEY DIDN'T HAVE THESE CONCERNS TWO OR THREE YEARS AGO.

AND TODAY, AND IT'S, I THINK IT GOES WITH, UH, STR WAS SAYING WAS ABOUT THE, UM, EVERYBODY'S BEEN COOPED UP.

THERE'S A LOT OF FRUSTRATION, THERE'S A LOT OF MENTAL ISSUES.

NOT SAY MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES, BUT JUST A LOT OF PEOPLE BEEN COOPED UP THERE, THEY'RE STRESSED MM-HMM .

AND IT'S COMING OUT, AND IT'S, AND PEOPLE ARE VERY EMBOLDENED, UH, RIGHT NOW TO CHALLENGE LAW ENFORCEMENT.

SO I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY HOW WE CAN ADDRESS THAT, BUT I, I'D LIKE TO FIGURE OUT SOME WAY TO, TO REACH THE CITIZENS, LET THEM HAVE INTERACTION WITH BPD AND, AND BPD INTERACT WITH CITIZENS TO, TO SHOW THAT ONE BP D'S THERE TO RESOLVE ISSUES, NOT CREATE 'EM AND ABSOLUTE AND, UM, YOU KNOW, WORK WITH 'EM THROUGH THESE ISSUES.

BUT, BUT THAT'S THE ONE THING I'VE HEARD IN THE LAST TWO AND A HALF MONTHS, IS CONSISTENTLY THE CRIME SO HIGH, THEY'RE AFRAID TO LEAVE THEIR HOUSES.

SO THAT'S GONNA PROBABLY FALL UNDER MORE OF THE POSITIVE ENGAGEMENT ASPECT OF IT.

BUT I THINK WE'RE LOOKING MORE FOR THE MECHANISM SPECIFICALLY OF HOW, HOW TO GET THERE.

YEAH.

HOW DO WE GET CITIZENS INVOLVED IN THAT CONVERSATION? BECAUSE THAT'S, IT'S, I MEAN, BPD WILL DO WELL, YOU GOTTA STEP UP EVERY CHANCE YOU GET.

BUT THE QUESTION IS, IS IT EFFECTIVE FOR RESOLVING THE CONCERNS THAT THE CITIZENS HAVE? THAT'S KIND OF A, IT DEPENDS.

YEAH.

AND, AND ONE OF THE ISSUES THAT YOU HAVE, WHETHER IT'S CRIME OR NOT, IS THE FEAR OF CRIME.

MM-HMM .

IF YOU ARE, I, I ACTUALLY SPOKE TO A LADY WHEN I WENT TO GET MY TEXAS DRIVER'S LICENSE.

UM, AND, AND THAT WAS A WHOLE OTHER ADVENTURE FOR ME, BUT, UH, ACTUALLY IT WASN'T THAT BAD.

UH, BUT THE LADY WHO ISSUED MY LICENSE TO ME SAID, I LIVE IN BAYTOWN, BUT I DON'T GO OUT AFTER DARK.

MM-HMM .

AND SHE TOLD ME THE AREAS SHE LIVED AND ALREADY KNOW THAT AREA IS, IS NOT PARTICULARLY A HIGH CRIME AREA, BUT IT'S THE PERCEPTION.

RIGHT.

AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I DO NOT WANT OUR CITIZENS OR OUR VISITORS TO BAYTOWN TO EXPERIENCE.

SO WE NEED TO HEAR THOSE THINGS.

UM, FEEL FREE TO EMAIL ME OR, UH, I'M GONNA THROW YOU OUT THERE, LIEUTENANT EVANS, IF YOU DON'T WANT TO EMAIL ME, BUT I PROMISE YOU THIS, YOU'RE NOT GONNA BOTHER ME.

UH, WE HEAR THAT A LOT

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WELL, YOU NEVER KNOW WHEN A SMALL PIECE OF INFORMATION, AND LIEUTENANT DORIS, MYSELF, LIEUTENANT, WE HAVE ALL WORKED INVESTIGATIONS.

I'VE WORKED NARCOTICS.

YOU NEVER KNOW WHEN THAT SMALL PIECE OF INFORMATION IS WHAT BREAKS A CASE OR MULTIPLE CASES.

AND IT'S THE, IS THE PIECE THAT TIES EVERYTHING TOGETHER.

SO I'D RATHER THE POLICE DEPARTMENT HAVE THAT INFORMATION AND MAYBE NOT NEED IT OR VET IT OUT AS OPPOSED TO BE SEARCHING FOR THAT NEEDLE IN THE, THE HAYSTACK.

UH, BUT THOSE KIND OF THINGS THAT, THAT, THAT YOU'RE HEARING, SEND THEM TO US.

UH, WE, WE, WE HAVE TO HEAR IT.

AND THAT'S THE WHOLE PURPOSE OF A CITIZEN ADVISORY COMMITTEE IS THERE ARE GOING TO BE PEOPLE WHO WILL EFFECTIVELY COMMUNICATE WITH YOU SITTING UP HERE ON THIS BOARD THAT FOR WHATEVER REASON, THEY WON'T COMMUNICATE WITH US.

THEY DON'T FEEL COMFORTABLE COMMUNICATING WITH US.

YOU BECOME THAT CONDUIT OF INFORMATION THAT FLOWS BACK AND FORTH UNTIL THEY GET TO THE POINT WHERE THEY, WHERE THEY SEE, YES, WE'RE GONNA RESPOND, AND THEN THEY FEEL COMFORTABLE COMING DIRECTLY TO US.

UH, REALLY YOUR OBJECT, YOUR OBJECTIVE SHOULD BE NOT UNLIKE OURS, IS TO WORK OURSELVES OUT OF A JOB, IS TO BE SO EFFECTIVE THAT YOU NEVER NEED THE POLICE AGAIN.

AND WE KNOW THAT'S NOT GONNA HAPPEN.

HOWEVER, IF THAT'S OUR GOAL, THEN WE'RE DOING THOSE THINGS IN THE COMMUNITY.

AND PEOPLE DON'T HAVE TO PUT BARS ON THEIR WINDOWS.

THEY DON'T HAVE TO GO IN AND LOCK THEMSELVES UP WHEN THE SUN GOES DOWN, BUT WE NEED THEM TO COMMUNICATE WITH US.

WE'VE GOTTA HAVE THAT.

UM, AND SO IF RIGHT NOW, IF YOU'RE THE ONLY ONE FROM YOUR DISTRICT THAT'S GETTING THAT INFORMATION, IF YOU WILL SHARE IT WITH US, WE WILL TAKE IT AND WE WILL DO EVERYTHING WE CAN WITH IT.

OKAY.

ONCE AGAIN, IF YOU GOT LIKE THE NATIONAL, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD WATCH PROGRAMS MM-HMM .

I MEAN, WE HAVE A LIST OF THE ONES THAT ARE ACTIVE IN OUR, IN MY BUREAU MM-HMM .

AND MEAN, IT SHOULD BE AN OFFICER THAT GOES TO THOSE MEETINGS.

IF NOT, I MEAN, DEFINITELY LET ME KNOW SO WE CAN GET THOSE OFFICERS GOING BACK HERE.

OH YEAH.

A LOT OF 'EM KIND OF SHUT DOWN.

YEAH.

AND SOME ARE JUST DISBANDED.

WHEN I MET WITH ONE OF HOAS, THEY SAID, WELL, WE USED TO HAVE AN OFFICER COME IN, BUT, AND I SAID, WELL, WE'LL CERTAINLY GET THAT STARTED AT AGAIN.

AND I KNOW THAT BPD WILL STAND UP TO THAT.

IT'S JUST A QUESTION OF IT'S THE, THE NEW NORMAL.

WELL, AND I WILL SHARE A LONG-TERM GOAL THAT I HAVE WITH YOU.

IT WON'T HAPPEN IN THE NEXT SIX MONTHS, PROBABLY NOT IN THE NEXT YEAR, BECAUSE WE'VE GOTTA GET OUR STAFFING LEVELS UP IN PATROL, UH, BECAUSE WE'RE, LIKE MOST AGENCIES, FROM WHAT I'VE SEEN, WE ROB PETER TO PAY PAUL WITH PEOPLE.

AND, UM, WE CAN'T CONTINUE TO DO THAT, OR WE'RE GONNA OVERWORK OUR, OUR PATROL STAFF.

HOWEVER, I HAVE ALREADY BEGUN TALKING TO, UH, UH, COMMAND STAFF AND, UM, SOME OTHERS ABOUT ESTABLISHING A COMMUNITY RESOURCE OFFICER PROGRAM WHERE WE SEGMENT THE CITY OFTEN TO, UH, MAYBE FOUR BIG ZONES.

AND WE START WITH FOUR OFFICERS ASSIGNED TO THE CRIME PREVENTION, UH, BUREAU.

AND THEY ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT AREA.

THEY ARE THE LIAISON, UH, TO THE CITIZENS AND BUSINESSES AND STAKEHOLDERS IN THAT AREA.

BUT THEY CAN ALSO WORK WITH WORK AS A TEAM WITH EACH OTHER THAT IF THERE IS A PARTICULAR CRIME ISSUE OR QUALITY OF LIFE ISSUE IN A PARTICULAR AREA THAT THEY'RE ASSIGNED TO, THEY CAN NOT ONLY GET THE PATROL UNITS INVOLVED AND COMMUNICATE WITH THEM ON IT, BUT THEY CAN PULL THE THREE OTHER MEMBERS OF THEIR TEAM IN AND THEY CAN ADDRESS IT AS WELL WHEN THEY'RE NOT DOING THOSE KINDS OF THINGS.

UH, THEY'RE ATTENDING THE HOA MEETINGS.

UH, THEY'RE GOING OUT INTO THE COMMUNITY AND, AND, AND TALKING TO PEOPLE AT COMMUNITY CENTERS OR, OR, OR PLACES OF WORSHIP, UH, THOSE SORTS OF AREAS.

AND THAT WILL HELP US DO JUST WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IN THE FUTURE, IS TO GET THAT KIND OF INFORMATION AND HAVE THAT KIND OF ONE-ON-ONE INTERACTION, OR AT LEAST SMALL GROUP INTERACTION WITH OUR CITIZENS.

UH, UNTIL WE CAN GET TO THAT POINT THOUGH, I THINK THAT, UH, THE MEMBERS OF THE BPAC ARE ESSENTIAL IN, IN, IN HELPING US FULFILL THAT ROLE.

I HOPE I ARTICULATED THAT WELL.

I DON'T KNOW, UH, THAT THAT, BUT THAT'S KIND OF MY VISION.

AND EVENTUALLY I'D LIKE IT TO BE, UH, TWO OFFICERS PER AREA SO THAT WE CAN MORE EFFECTIVELY WORK THESE AREAS, SUPPLEMENT PATROL IN SPECIFIC CRIME SUPPRESSION, WHERE MAYBE WE DON'T NEED TO BRING SPECIAL OPERATIONS IN AND PULL THEM OFF OF A BIG CASE.

BUT IT'S SOMETHING THAT EIGHT OFFICERS COULD EFFECTIVELY WORK, UM, WITH, WITH STREET CRIME.

OR AN EXAMPLE WOULD BE IF YOU HAD, UH, A PROSTITUTION PROBLEM AND IT WAS OPEN AIR OUT ON THE STREETS, YOU KNOW, YOU COULD ACTUALLY LET THOSE OFFICERS COME IN AND, AND WORK THAT AND, AND, AND MAKE AN IMPACT AND STILL HAVE YOUR, YOUR SPECIALLY TRAINED UNITS DOING SOME OF THE MORE, UH, HIGH PROFILE, LONG-TERM CASE INVESTIGATIONS.

SO IT'S A SUPPLEMENT NOT ONLY FOR THE COMMUNITY, BUT IT'S ALSO A SUPPLEMENT FOR THE DEPARTMENT.