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ALRIGHT, SO FIRST ITEM IS DISCUSS
[a. Discuss and review proposed redistricting maps.]
AND REVIEW PROPOSED REDISTRICTING MAPS, WHICH I GUESS SOME ARE LOOKING AT.I GUESS IT'S, UH, SOMEBODY WANTS TO GET OFF TRACK.
WE'LL TURN OVER, CORRECT THE CENSUS BEHIND US.
UM, Y'ALL REMEMBER IN APRIL WE WENT OVER SOME GUIDES TO GO BY SOME OF THEM LEGAL, SOME OF THEM, UM, IN INTEREST.
THEY WERE, THAT WE'D HAD BOUNDARIES THAT WERE, UM, EASILY IDENTIFIABLE.
MAINTAIN COMMUNITIES OF INTEREST IN A SINGLE DISTRICT, AVOID SPLITTING NEIGHBORHOODS WHERE POSSIBLE, USE WHOLE COUNTY VOTING PRECINCTS, BASE THE NEW PLAN TO THE EXTENT POSSIBLE ON THE EXISTING DISTRICT.
DRAW DISTRICTS THAT ARE RELATIVELY EQUAL IN SIZE, THAT ARE COMPACT AND CONTIGUOUS, AND RECOGNIZE THE INCUMBENT CONSTITUENCY SO THAT WE ARE EACH STILL IN YOUR SAME DISTRICT.
WITH THAT, WE, UH, HIRED DR. KLEIN HERE FROM RICE UNIVERSITY, WHO KEPT THOSE IN MIND AS HE DRAFTED SOME OPTIONS FOR Y'ALL.
THE OVERLAY IS THE CURRENT DISTRICTS, AND UNDERNEATH ARE, WOULD IT BE
THIS, THIS IS V TWO B TWO, PROPOSED THREE.
PROPOSED THREE IS THE ONE THAT I WOULD SAY IS, IS IT V TWO AND B THREE? LAST TWO B THREE IS OUR FINAL RECOMMENDATION IN LIGHT OF OTHER ISSUES, SOME MAY RECALL THAT THERE WAS A NATURE CENTER THAT THE BROOKLYN DEVELOPMENT THAT HAD, UH, LED TO THE CREATION OF THE NATURE CENTER.
AND THERE WAS A CONCERN OF MOVING IT INTO ONE AND BRINGING IT BACK INTO THREE.
UM, AND THAT WAS, THAT MET WITH THE OUTLINE OR CRITERIA OF MAINTAINING.
AND, UM, WE RECOMMENDED OPTION THREE B THREE BECAUSE IT DID KEEP IT IN THREE, THE NATURE CENTER.
BUT THERE WERE ABOUT 800 PEOPLE IN THAT AREA.
AND, UM, AS YOU KNOW, THERE ARE ONLY ABOUT REALLY TWO LEGAL ISSUES THAT WE WORRY, WORRY ABOUT.
ONE IS ONE PERSON, ONE VOTE, AND THE OTHER IS HAVING DISTRICTS THAT ARE REALLY, LOOK, WHAT CAN I CALL IT, UGLY OR GERRYMANDERED FOR, FOR THE MOMENT.
THE LAW IS THAT YOU CANNOT HAVE MORE THAN 10% DIFFERENCE FROM YOUR LARGEST TO YOUR SMALLEST DISTRICT.
YOU WERE AT 37% DIFFERENCE FROM YOUR LARGEST TO SMALLEST DISTRICT BEFORE WE STARTED THE EXERCISE OF MAKING IT ONE PERSON, ONE VOTE.
NOW, THE OTHER CRITERIA, KEEPING ALL INCUMBENTS IN THEIR DISTRICT, YOU WANNA DRAW BOUNDARIES AND THEN FIND THAT THE INCUMBENT WAS LIVING IN A, IN ANOTHER OR ANOTHER PERSON'S DISTRICT, OR SOMETIMES NOT AS PAIRING UP.
TWO, THAT WE MAINTAIN AS MUCH AS WE CAN, THE BOUNDARIES.
THREE, THAT THERE ARE COMMUNITIES OF INTEREST, SPECIFICALLY HISPANIC POPULATIONS THAT HAVE HAD HISTORICALLY, UM, TWO DISTRICTS, ONE AND TWO.
UM, AS YOU CAN SUSPECT, THOSE ARE DISTRICTS THAT HAVE BEEN UNDERPOPULATED AND MOST OF YOUR GROWTH HAVE BEEN IN THE TIER EXTERIOR OUTSIDE THE DOWNTOWN BAYTOWN, WHERE WE ARE.
AND SO, UM, THOSE WERE THE CHALLENGES.
UM, AND I THINK WE, WE MET THAT, UM, THERE WERE SOME IRREGULARITIES WHEN WE HAD OUR ORIGINAL PLANS.
WE HAD SOME PARTS OF, UM, DISTRICT SIX RUNNING ALONG THE EASTERN BORDER.
WE NEEDED, MOST IMPORTANTLY, TO BRING IN POPULATIONS, UM, ONCE WE KEPT, UH, THE NATURE CENTER IN THREE.
AND, UM, WE THINK THIS PLAN B THREE, UM, MEETS ALL OF THOSE, UM, PARTICULAR, UM, NEEDS AND CRITERIA THAT YOU LAID OUT TO US.
AND I SHOULD SAY JOHN ALFRED, MY COLLEAGUE, UM, DID AS MUCH WORK AND MAYBE MORE ON THIS, UM, THAN I, HE HAS HAD ANOTHER SCHOOL DISTRICT TONIGHT.
HE CAN'T BE AT TWO PLACES AT ONCE.
UM, UNLESS SCOTTY WERE TO BEAT ME UP AND DOWN, UM, HE'S IN SPRING BRANCH AND I'M, I'M HERE TONIGHT.
WELL, FIRST I WANNA WELCOME YOU TO DR. STEIN.
IT'S BEEN 10 YEARS SINCE I'VE SEEN YOU LAST.
UM,
HAVE ABOUT SAME AMOUNT OF HAIRS GRAY.
UH, I WILL SAY, UM, YOU KNOW, I UNDERSTAND AT LEAST GOING THROUGH THIS 10 YEARS AGO, UH, YOU KNOW, WE ALWAYS, THERE'S A FEW KEY THINGS WE, WE TRY TO KEEP, YOU KNOW, CURRENT COUNCIL MEMBERS IN THEIR DISTRICTS, UH, CENSUS TRACKS FROM UNDERSTANDING, WE STILL HAVE TO SAY WITHIN THE CENSUS TRACKS THE BALANCE THAT WE HAVE TO STRIKE.
UM, IT'S NOT AS STRINGENT AS KINDA THE FEDERAL DISTRICTS, BUT, UH, WE STILL ARE TRYING TO KEEP THAT BIGGEST TO SMALLEST TYPE OF, UM, THE
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DISTRICT SIZE.UH, I GUESS A FEW KEY THINGS THAT WOULD BE IMPORTANT TO ME.
I'M KIND OF ALMOST, UM, I'M GONNA SAY I'M NOT AN INTERESTED PARTY, BUT, UM, FOR ME IT'S, IT'S TRYING TO KEEP NEIGHBORHOODS TOGETHER AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.
I REALLY DON'T LIKE TO DIVIDE THE NEIGHBORHOODS, UM, IF YOU DON'T HAVE TO.
BUT SOMETIMES THE CENSUS TRACKS THAT, THAT TAKE PLACE.
UM, I WANT TO ASK A FEW QUESTIONS BEFORE MAYBE SOME OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS, BUT JUST CAN, CAN YOU GIVE A FEW KEY DATA POINTS WHEN IT, WHEN YOU, WHEN YOU LOOK AT BALANCE, IF IT WAS EITHER HISPANIC POPULATIONS OR OTHER DEMOGRAPHICS, LIKE WHAT WERE SOME THINGS THAT YOU FOUND EITHER UNIQUE, UH, OR THAT WAS A KEY, UM, DRIVER AND I GUESS YOU WOULD SAY THE B THREE? I THINK THE BIGGEST DRIVER WAS A GROWTH.
YOU KNOW, YOUR GROWTH IS, IS SUBSTANTIAL 5%.
UM, AND, AND IT'S, UM, I USE THE WORD LUMPY.
UM, I USE THE LUMP WORD LUMPY IN THE SENSE THAT EVERY COMMUNITY HAS AREAS WHERE RESIDENTIAL POPULATION GROWS, BUT YOU HAVE VERY SPECIFIC AREAS.
AND I THINK FROM WHAT I'VE HEARD, THESE ARE PART OF A DESIGN, A PLAN.
UM, THE DOWNTOWN AREA, I CALL, I CALL IT DOWNTOWN, I HOPE I'M NOT MISREPRESENTING DISTRICTS ONE AND TWO, BUT THEIR DEVELOPMENTS SEEM TO BE COMMERCIAL, NON-RESIDENTIAL.
THAT DOESN'T MEAN THERE AREN'T PEOPLE LIVING IN DOWNTOWN, BUT MOST OF THE RESIDENTIAL AND WHERE YOUR POPULATION GROWTH WAS IN THE PERIPHERY.
SO THAT WAS A CHALLENGE AND WAS A CHALLENGE SPECIFICALLY TO KEEP THE DISTRICT ONE AND TWO AT THEIR MAJORITY MINORITY, WHICH I BELIEVE WE KEPT AT 64 AND ALMOST 60% IN DISTRICTS ONE AND TWO.
AND WE ARE NOT UNDER ANY, I WOULDN'T CALL IT LEGAL REQUIREMENT, BUT YOU, THE COUNCIL GAVE US GUIDELINES AND WE TOOK THOSE GUIDELINES SERIOUSLY.
WE TRIED NOT TO BREAK UP NEIGHBORHOODS.
I WON'T LIE TO SAY THAT FOR INSTANCE, IN THIS IMPLANT THREE, A BIGGER OVERRIDING INTEREST WAS JUST KEEPING OURSELVES INTO THE ONE PERSON ONE VOTE.
'CAUSE THAT'S WHERE YOU CAN GET INTO TROUBLE WITH.
THAT'S WHEN THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT WILL COME IN AND SAY, I'M SORRY.
UM, AND WE HAD TO BRING DOWN PARTS OF, OF, EXCUSE ME, BRING UP PARTS OF SIX.
UM, AND ESSENTIALLY WE, WE SPLIT SOME NEIGHBORHOODS.
WE NEVER, I WANT TO BE VERY CLEAR, EVER BREAK UP, UH, STREET.
SO IF YOU'RE ON THE NORTH SIDE OF FIRST STREET, AND I'M ON THE SOUTH SIDE, WE TRY TO KEEP THE NORTH AND SOUTH IN.
UM, AND WE DO PAY A LOT OF ATTENTION TO WHAT WE CALL TRADITIONAL COMMUNITIES OF INTEREST.
THE NATURE CENTER WAS JUST ONE THAT CAUGHT US SORT OF A LITTLE BIT OFF GUARD.
UM, I'D KNOWN ABOUT BROOKWOOD, YOU KNOW, AND HOW IT, THE COMMUNITY HAD SUNK, SO TO SPEAK.
UM, AND THAT THEY HAD DECIDED TO MAKE IT A NATURE CENTER.
'CAUSE I'VE BEEN AROUND, I'VE BEEN DOING REDISTRICTING FOR A WHILE, BUT I HADN'T REALIZED HOW IMPORTANT IT WAS TO KEEP IT IN THE DISTRICT.
BESIDES THE NATURE CENTER, THERE'S NOBODY THAT'S THERE.
BUT WOOSTER ITSELF, UH, WHAT CAME IN PLAY WITH WOOSTER, IF I CORRECT I'M CORRECT, WAS THERE WERE PEOPLE STILL ON THE ROLLS IN 2010.
AND SO THEY COUNTED AS THERE, BUT THEY WERE NO LONGER THERE.
YEAH, THEY WERE THERE FOR THE CENSUS.
THEY WEREN'T THERE AFTER THE FACT.
AND SO BOOSTER OFF THERE WAS THAT, I THINK THAT WAS THAT ELEMENT WHERE DISTRICT ONE GREW A LITTLE BIT INTO, UH, THE NEIGHBORHOOD IN THE, THE AREA.
AND SO THE NATURE CENTER FROM MY, FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, THAT'S JUST GEOGRAPHICS AS FAR AS SIZE.
THERE'S NOBODY THERE OTHER THAN A FEW STREETS AT FRONT.
IT, IT WAS A PROBLEM BECAUSE USUALLY WHEN YOU MOVE A BLOCK AND WE WERE WORKING WITH CENSUS BLOCKS AND, AND TRACKS, THERE'S SOMEBODY THERE.
WELL, THE NATURE CENTER, THERE ISN'T.
AND SO IT WAS A TRICK LOAD AND YEAH.
BUT WE HAD TO ALSO HAD TO TAKE SOME OTHER, UH, LAND AROUND.
AND THERE WERE AT LEAST ENOUGH PEOPLE, BUT IT WASN'T A HARD REDISTRICTING.
I THINK WHEN, UH, MS. HORNER SENT US, UM, SOME, YOU KNOW, SMALL CHANGES.
THE BIG ONE WAS DRIVEN BY THE NATURE CENTER.
THEN THE NATURE CENTER DROVE WHAT WE HAD TO DO BETWEEN FIVE AND SIX.
AND, UM, THERE WEREN'T, I DON'T THINK THERE WAS A HARD ONE.
I THINK I SHOULD CAUTION THAT, UM, GOING FORWARD, THE WAY THIS COMMUNITY IS GROWING, I THINK YOU'RE GONNA BE LOOKING AT, UM, HAVING TO MAKE SOME HARD DECISIONS IN A FEW YEARS, IN A FEW YEARS WITH
I THINK IT'S GONNA BE DIFFICULT TO MAINTAIN THESE DISTRICT BOUNDARIES IF YOU CONTINUE TO GROW THE WAY YOU'RE GROWING.
IT'S JUST NOT, BUT WE HAVE TO MAKE A DECISION BASED OFF OF OUR DATA.
THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT WAS JUST LIKE WE HAD IN 2010.
AND SO THAT'S WHAT I WANT COUNSEL, CONSIDER WHAT IS, WHAT IS THE DATA TODAY? UM, THAT WAS, THAT WAS, I THINK YOU CAN DO A LITTLE BIT OF, OF, OF PROJECTION.
BUT I, WE, WE, I MEAN, I'M NOT MAKING ANY PROJECTIONS.
WE SAYING, AND, AND YOU KNOW, THE CENSUS WAS LATE.
UM, IT WAS UNUSUALLY ACCURATE.
FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO ARE WORRIED THAT MAYBE THE CENSUS BECAUSE OF COVID.
UH, AND OTHER PROBLEMS, PEOPLE WOULDN'T OBVIOUSLY FEEL COMFORTABLE HAVING THEM THROW A KNOCK ON YOUR DOOR AND TAKE A CENSUS.
I MEAN, I MUST SAY, AND I CAN DISCUSS AT LENGTH IF YOU WANT, IT'S AN AREA WORK I SPENT A LOT OF TIME ON, BUT I ACTUALLY THINK THE 2020 CENSUS WAS MORE ACCURATE THAN THE 22,000 IN PREVIOUS YEARS.
UM, MUCH LIKE WHAT HAPPENED IN, IN THE ELECTION.
DID YOU REALIZE THAT WE'D HAVE THE
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HIGHEST TURNOUT IN OVER 104 YEARS IN THE MIDDLE OF A PANDEMIC? WELL, THERE WAS SOMETHING ELSE GOING ON IN THE ELECTION THAT MADE PEOPLE VOTE.I THINK THE SAME HAPPENED IN CENSUS.
SO I HAVE A GREAT DEAL OF CONFIDENCE IN THE DATA, PARTICULARLY IN THE TEXAS SAMPLING.
UM, WE HAVE TRADITIONALLY BEEN BEHIND AS A STATE IN REPORTING THAT'S NOT THE CASE.
UNDERREPRESENTED POPULATIONS, AFRICAN AMERICANS, YOUNG PEOPLE, MOBILE PEOPLE, PEOPLE OF ANY, UM, ETHNIC BACKGROUND THAT HAVE GENERALLY BEEN UNDERREPRESENTED.
SO I, I THINK THE NUMBERS ARE ACCURATE.
UM, BUT JUST GOING FORWARD, YOU'RE GROWING AND YOU'RE GROWING IN THE PERIPHERY.
YOU MADE DECISIONS ABOUT DOWNTOWN DEVELOPMENT THAT ARE JUST CLEAR.
WE HAVE, WE HAVE A LARGE ETJ, SO WE'RE GONNA GROW THERE KIND OF IN OUR INNER, INNER CITY.
IT'S, IT'S MORE JUST PRETTY MUCH LOCKED FAR.
SO I WANNA OPEN UP TO COUNCIL, I JUST WANTED TO KIND OF PRESENT, I GUESS SOME OF THOSE KEY THINGS.
UM, IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT, THAT EACH COUNCIL MEMBER CONSIDER FOLKS OR DISTRICT AND FUTURE COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT MAY SERVE IN YOUR DISTRICT FOR THE, IF THAT'S THE CASE, UM, AT THAT POINT YOU HAVE TO FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH REPRESENT.
I'M GOOD WITH THE RECOMMENDATION.
Y'ALL DON'T HAVE ANY QUALMS. I JUST HAVE A QUICK QUESTION.
JUST, JUST CURIOSITY IS THE PROBLEM AS FAR AS KEEPING THE DISTRICTS INTACT, JUST OFF THE, WHAT'S KIND OF CONSIDERED THE WOODLINE ADDITION LOOK WROTE THERE? I MEAN, I SEE THAT, BUT THE STRAIGHT LINE WOULDN'T HAVE MADE MORE SENSE.
AND APPARENTLY THERE'S A COMPLICATION WITH THE STRAIGHT LINE.
YEAH, IT WOULD, THAT ONE LITTLE NOTE THERE.
I MEAN, DISTRICT B THREE ON THE RIGHT DOES, UM, NOT MUCH CHANGE THERE.
IT IS JUST, THERE WERE TOO MANY PEOPLE.
WE DIDN'T WANT TO BREAK THE, THE, THE STREET UP.
ONE WAY TO DEAL WITH IT IS TO PUT THE PEOPLE ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE STREET IN ONE DISTRICT AND PEOPLE, BUT I DON'T WANT, YOU KNOW, IF YOU LIVE ACROSS THE STREET FROM ME, YOU SHOULD BE IN THE I MY SENSE IS THAT I, I'VE HAD HARDER IF THAT'S, THAT WAS THE LEAST OF OUR CON.
I MEAN, WE DID THE BEST WE COULD, BUT WE KEPT TO THIS IDEA THAT WE DON'T BREAK UP A COMMUNITY LIKE THAT OR EVEN A STREET.
UM, IT WAS, YOU KNOW, AND IT DID MAKE A BIG DIFFERENCE.
'CAUSE WHEN YOU HAVE BLOCKS CENSUS BLOCK AND THEY HAVE 800 PEOPLE, ANOTHER ONE HAS LIKE FIVE, YOU DON'T GET A LOT OF, AND THIS IS WHAT YOU'VE BEEN DOING.
I MEAN, YOU'VE BEEN BUILDING DEVELOPMENTS WITH A PURPOSE IN MIND.
I'M GONNA START WITH S WOMAN OVER HERE.
YEAH, NO, I'M OKAY WITH THE WAY IT IS.
I THINK I HAD SOME SIMILAR GUESSES, UM, FROM WHAT WE, I KNOW, UH, CHARLES AND I HAVE BEEN TALKING QUITE A BIT IN TERMS OF HOW THEY WOULD LAY OUT.
UM, SO THEY'RE FAIRLY ACCURATE TO WHERE WE HAD IMAGINED.
UM, THE ONLY QUESTION THAT I REALLY HAD, AND I KNOW YOU SAID YOU CAN'T PROJECT GROWTH.
UM, SO OUR 99 BUILD OUT, AND THIS MIGHT BE A QUESTION FOR STAFF, BUT WHEN 99 GETS READY TO BUILD OUT, IS THAT GOING TO BE ETJ OR IS THAT GONNA BE CITY LIMITS? 'CAUSE I KNOW, UH, MIKE AND I TALKED BEFORE ABOUT IS THERE GONNA BE A POSSIBILITY TO SHARE AREAS OF 99 AS WELL? BECAUSE WE'RE JUST SO CLOSE THERE LARGELY.
ETJ TO MY UNDERSTANDING, IT'S GONNA BE E TJ.
AS YOU GO OUT ACROSS THE BODY CAN PROTECT OUR CITY.
AND SO I THINK THAT'S ALL I HAD.
I KNOW I, I LEARNED SOMETHING NEW THAT
SO I'M GOOD AS IT STANDS, UM, AS FAR AS DISTRICT FOUR GOES, THERE'S NO CHANGE BETWEEN THE TWO MAPS.
WHAT, WHAT WAS THE MINORITY BREAKDOWN IN DISTRICT THREE? I JUST WANT TO KNOW FOR MY REFERENCE.
UM, DO YOU WANNA PUT IT, THERE YOU GO.
THIS IS OPTION TWO A NUMBER ONE.
AND WHAT IF IT WAS B THREE THREE? NO, I'M ASKING.
SO, UM, IN DISTRICT THREE, AND THEY, IF YOU LOOK AT NON-WHITE, UM, YOU'D HAVE TO ASK, YOU'D HAVE TO ADD LIKE HISPANIC ONE AND TWO AND THREE.
AND ABOUT, UM, I HAVE TO BRING IN THE AFRICAN AMERICAN POPULATION ON THAT AS WELL.
YOU'VE GOT NON-HISPANIC 18 YEAR OLDS.
UM, I, LET ME GET ANOTHER MAP.
AND I NEED TO ASK MY SECOND QUESTION.
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WHAT WAS THE DRIVER FOR GIVEN MAD COUNTRY CLUB MANOR AND COUNTRY CLUB CODE TO DISTRICT FOUR, THE NORTH SIDE OF BAKER.THE SECTION OF BETWEEN BUSH GOING EAST AND BAKER GOING NORTH.
ALRIGHT, LEMME GO LOOK AT THE MAP.
SPEAKING OF THIS CORNER RIGHT HERE.
AND I'D HAVE TO GO AND, AND, AND I CAN WRITE, I CAN GO BACK AND LOOK AT IT.
BUT MY GUESS IS THAT WE COULD NOT, BASICALLY WE WERE WORKING WITH ONE TO TWO.
UM, AND WE DIDN'T HAVE TO DO MUCH WITH FOUR.
WE DIDN'T HAVE TO DO MUCH WITH UM, UH, FIVE.
UM, BUT IT WAS ALWAYS POPULATION.
TO ANSWER YOUR FIRST QUESTION, THERE WILL BE 39% HISPANIC 18 AND OH OVER POPULATION IN DISTRICT THREE.
AN AFRICAN AMERICAN POPULATION OVER THE AGE OF 18 IN THAT DISTRICT WILL BE ANOTHER 33%.
REALLY? AND THAT'S WHAT WE CALL ADULT CITIZEN.
AND YOU KNOW, I LIKE THE OUT, UM, I ACTUALLY THOUGHT, YEAH, THAT'S THE ONE I, I LIKE BEAT THE THAT NOW.
THE OTHER QUESTION, AND THIS IS JUST FOR EVERYONE ELSE'S REFERENCE, MY QUESTION WAS WE DID A LIMITED PURPOSE ANNEXATION FOR ASHEVILLE COVE AND IT'S NOT SHOWING ON THIS MAP.
CAN WE EXPLAIN TO EVERYONE WHY IT'S NOT SHOWING ASHEVILLE COVE AS PART OF DISTRICT THREE ON THIS MAP? I THINK, IS IT ANOTHER YEAR? I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER.
ISN'T IT LIKE IT'S A YEAR AWAY? YES.
WE, FOR THE DATA FROM CENSUS, SO BE ABLE TO VOTE.
WILL IT BE BE A DISTRICT THREE? IT IT WAS AT ABSENT TO DISTRICT THREE.
NO, NO, I KNOW THAT, BUT I'M JUST SAYING.
BUT WHY IS IT NOT COUNTED IN THE NUMBERS? NOW IS WAS MY QUESTION EARLIER SINCE WE
FOR THE PURPOSES OF COUNTING, WHICH IS THE APRIL CENSUS.
IF IN NOVEMBER OF 2022 WHEN THE NEXT ELECTION IS TO BE HELD OR MARCH OF 22 PRIMARIES, THOSE VOTERS ARE IN YOUR DISTRICT.
THEY WOULD COUNT, BUT NOT FOR REDISTRICTING.
YOU ALL KNOW, OF COURSE YOU CAN REDISTRICT AT ANY TIME BETWEEN, YOU ARE ONLY REQUIRED TO DO IT EVERY 10 YEARS WITH A CENSUS.
BUT YOU CAN MAKE CHANGES ANYTIME YOU WANT.
AND THAT'S, THAT'S WHY I ASKED THE QUESTION.
'CAUSE I FOUND THAT OUT IN MY QUESTIONING.
WE CAN REDISTRICT ANYTIME WE WANT.
IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE EVERY 10 YEARS.
WHAT DOES, SO IN 2022, NOVEMBER, IF WE HAVE A, A LARGE AMOUNT OF INDIVIDUALS FROM THAT AREA, WE WOULD JUST STAND, EXTEND.
WOULD THAT BE SOMETHING TO CONSIDER IN DOING THIS? AGAIN, IT'S UP TO THE COUNCIL.
IT'S NOT A SO, BUT THAT'S SOMETHING WE KNOW IS GONNA COME IN.
AND SO DO WE HAVE, DO WE, SHOULD WE CONSIDER THAT IN BALANCES? THAT WAS YOUR QUESTION ALSO.
I MEAN, IS THERE DATA? IS THERE, IS THERE CENSUS DATA FROM, CAN WE BE CLEAR? YOU CAN DRAW BOUNDARIES ANYTIME YOU WANT.
YOU CANNOT USE ANYTHING BUT THE CENSUS DATA FOR DRAWING THOSE BOUNDARIES.
DO WE HAVE CENSUS DATA FURTHER THERE? SO IT'S NOT GONNA SHOW UNTIL NOVEMBER.
THAT'S SO WE CAN COME BACK IN 23.
'CAUSE THEN THE NUMBERS WOULD SHOW.
I'M NOT SAYING THAT'S WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE.
I'M JUST SAYING THAT'S SO THAT WE ALL WOULD HAVE ACCURATE INFORMATION.
PEOPLE MOVE, RIGHT? STARTING TOMORROW, PEOPLE WILL MOVE.
DISTRICTS WILL CHANGE AS SOON AS YOU DRAW THOSE MAPS AND MAKE A DECISION AS A, AS A COUNCIL THE NEXT DAY THERE SOMEBODY, THEY'RE OUT OF WHACK.
I MEAN, ARE THEY SERIOUSLY OUT OF WHAT, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, DEMOGRAPHERS WILL, WILL JOHN AND I WILL LOOK AT, BUT BY THE TIME YOU GET TO YOUR 10TH YEAR, YOU WERE AT 37 POINTS, YOU'RE ONLY ALLOWED 10.
SO IN 10 YEARS YOUR GROWTH WAS ONE THING.
BUT IT'S ALSO WHERE PEOPLE MOVE.
SO YOU, YOU, I MEAN THOSE VOTERS THAT ARE IN THAT DISTRICT WHO COME IN, UH, AFTER THE ANNEXATION, UM, THEY CAN MOVE TO ANOTHER DISTRICT AFTER MOVING INTO, COMING INTO YOUR DISTRICT AS ANNEXATION.
BUT YOU'RE FREE TO DO ANY ANYTHING YOU WANT.
WHEN, UM, IT WERE TO TAKE ACTION, LET'S SAY IN THREE YEARS, UH, YOU HAVE TO TAKE CENSUS DATA PLUS KNOWN CITIZENS.
OR HOW DO YOU, HOW DO YOU DO IT? YOU DON'T, YOU DON'T GET TO DO A NEW CENSUS FOR YOUR CITY.
SO HOW, WHAT DATA DO YOU USE? THE COURT'S ONLY RECOGNIZE THE US CENSUS EVERY 10 YEARS IF YOU'VE ANNEXED A PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT, SO RIGHT NOW, WHEN, WHEN JOHN AND I DID THE MAP
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THAT ANNEXATION ISS PENDING, WE DIDN'T, IT WASN'T IN THE CITY OF BAYTOWN.SO NOW, NEXT WEEK OR WHENEVER THE ANNEXATION TAKES EFFECT, IT WOULD BE, WE WOULD HAVE TO GO BACK TO THE 2020 CENSUS DATA.
YOU SEE WHAT I'M GOING WITH IT? YEAH.
WE CANNOT USE OTHER THINGS LIKE, UM, THE AMERICAN COMMUNITY SURVEY, WHICH IS DONE EVERY TWO YEARS.
SOME THINK IT'S AN AUXILIARY CAN'T BE USED FOR THIS PURPOSE.
YOU CAN ONLY USE THE NUMBERS YOU'VE GOT.
SO WE, WE CAN TRY THIS OUT LONGER.
YEAH, WE'RE, I MEAN WE'RE NOT GONNA MAKE A DECISION, OBVIOUSLY WE'RE ANYWAY, BUT LET'S HEAR AT LEAST INPUT FOR NOW ON THE MAP.
UM, AND THEN I'M ASSUMING EITHER A MEETING OR TWO, WHENEVER WE CAN OBVIOUSLY ADOPT THEM SMOOTHLY INTO THIS.
UM, WE ACTUALLY HAVE IT ON THE CONSENT ITEM FOR A HEARING.
WE CAN PULL THAT IF WE WANNA DO THE A HEARING IN DECEMBER AND THEN MOVE ON AT JANUARY.
SO, UM, WE HAVEN'T HEARD FROM THE OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS.
I MEAN, I DON'T THINK FOR D FIVE THAT THEY'RE NOT TWO DISSIMILAR.
UM, I THINK, UM, OPTION ONE'S PROBABLY CLOSER TO WHAT THE EXISTING B FIVE IS.
UM, TWO LOOKS LIKE SIX COMES UP MORE AND I MOVE FARTHER WEST.
SO IT LOOKS LIKE CHANGES A LITTLE MORE.
BUT I MEAN, EITHER ONE WOULD BE, I, I'D PROBABLY GO WITH THE B THREE 'CAUSE IT SOUNDS LIKE CONSENSUS IS HEADED THAT WAY.
MY ONLY COMMENT IS, OKAY, DISTRICT SIX CURRENTLY HAS THREE VOTING SITES IN IT.
AND WITH THE B THREE IT, NOW I HAVE FOUR VOTING SITES IN IT.
Y'ALL ARE KILLING ME
I GOTTA BE RUNNING ALL DAY LONG.
BUT YEAH, AS, AS FAR AS THE REDRAWING, IT SMOOTHS IT OUT.
I THINK IT REALLY MAKES A CONSENSUS CONNECTION WITH THE, WITH THE NEIGHBORHOODS.
I GUESS A FOLLOW UP QUESTION IS WHICHEVER ONE WE GO THROUGH, AND I THINK AGAIN, CONSENSUS GOING TO BE THREE, HOW DO WE NOTIFY THOSE CITIZENS THAT OKAY, YOU'RE NO LONGER IN FORMER DISTRICT, NOW YOU'RE IN THIS DISTRICT AND THIS IS YOUR NEW COUNCIL PERSON.
UM, SO I TO, I GET MORE FRIENDLY PHONE CALLS THAN EVER.
UM, 'CAUSE AT THE TIME THAT I GOT REELECTED, UM, THE BOUNDARIES HAD TO SHIFTED MM-HMM
UM, AND SO THE, UM, PREVIOUS COUNCILMAN, UM, TOOK ME AND INTRODUCED ME TO FOLKS IN HIS DISTRICT.
UM, AND SO I THINK THAT THAT WOULD BE GOOD.
BUT OBVIOUSLY THERE'S GOING TO BE MAIL OUTS, THERE'S GONNA BE NOTIFICATIONS, NEWSPAPER, WHATEVER.
I MEAN ALL OF THAT GOES OUT, BUT I THINK IT'S UP TO EXISTING COUNCIL REPRESENTATIVES TO REALLY REACH OUT AND INTRODUCE THEM TO YOUR NEW REP.
WELL, WE NEED TO MOVE FORWARD ON OTHER ITEMS BACK.
IS THERE ANY OTHER, IT SEEMS LIKE THERE'S A, A GENERAL LEANING TOWARD AGREE, SO WE CAN HAVE A HEARING.
ARE WE STILL GONNA BE SHARING SHADOW? I'LL, I'LL RUN THROUGH THIS ONE.
YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE WE STILL SHARING? SHADOW? THANK YOU.
SHADOW FIELD OR, OKAY, WE'LL GET TO THAT'S ALL YOU NOW THAT'S ALL MINE.
ONE BI THOUGHT SO, BUT IT'S HARD TO SEE WALL.
[b. Discuss possible revisions to the Park Pavilions and Community Center Rental Policies and Procedures regarding serving/consuming alcoholic beverages, charging admission fees, and related items.]
SO YOU, SO ONE B.UH, SO OVER THE PAST THREE YEARS I'VE BEEN CONTACTED BY SOME ORGANIZATIONS FROM, AND ALSO SOME INDIVIDUALS.
THERE'S ACTUALLY TWO COMPONENTS TO THIS AGENDA OR THIS WORK SESSION ITEM.
UH, THE FIRST THING IS, IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT IF, UH, LET'S SAY A BOXING CLUB WANTED TO HOST SOMETHING AT THE COMMUNITY CENTER THAT, UH, THEY COULDN'T DO THAT BECAUSE THEY WOULD ACT LIKE SELL TICKETS RIGHT.
SO IT WAS THEIR UNDERSTANDING, AT LEAST THAT'S WHAT, UM, CITY STAFF HAS, HAS RESPONDED TO THEM.
LIKE, NO, YOU CAN'T HAVE THAT TYPE OF EVENT AT THE COMMUNITY CENTER, WHICH IS BEYOND ME BECAUSE WE SELL OTHER EVENTS THAT THERE IS TICKETS.
THE BUSINESS EXPO, THE CHAMBER PUTS ON IS ONE EXAMPLE TICKETS IS IT'S A TICKETED TICKET EVENT.
SO I WANNA MAKE SURE AT LEAST WANNA LOOK AT THAT PORTION OF THE COMMUNITY CENTER ITSELF.
AND I'M THINKING THE BIG, OBVIOUSLY THE BIG ROOM, UM, ALLOWING, I GUESS ALLOWING PEOPLE TO HOLD EVENTS THAT THEY DO CHARGE A FEE FOR A ANY EVENT AS COUNSEL FROM A POLICY PERSPECTIVE HAVE ANY PROBATIONS REGARDING THAT WHY ARE DOING NOW, BUT THEN SOMEONE LIKE THE CHAMBERS ABLE TO DO IT? THAT'S MY QUESTION.
MY POINT IS, IT ISN'T, I'M CURIOUS HOW THE POLICY'S CURRENTLY WRITTEN TO, UNLESS I CAN TELL YOU THAT THIS POLICY NOW, UM, TO THE ALCOHOL PART IS,
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UH, IT'S APPROVED FOR CERTAIN LOCATIONS AND IT'S NOT, WE CAN GET PAST THAT BE IF THAT'S THE COUNSEL'S CONSENSUS BECAUSE WE'VE DONE IT AT EVERGREEN AND OTHER LOCATIONS.AND WE'LL GET THAT SECOND PART.
BUT I WANNA LET YOU KNOW THERE'S TWO COMPONENTS.
THERE'S TWO COMPONENTS TO THE AGENDA ITEM.
IT SAYS THAT WE CAN'T, UM, WHEN IT COMES TO FACILITIES, COORDINATE 'EM OFF AND HAVE A PRIVATE ENTITY THAT'S NOT A NON-PROFIT SELL TICKETS WITH PROFIT, THE CHAMBER POLICY, THEY'RE A NON-PROFIT IS THE BIG THING.
CHAMBER'S A FOR-PROFIT, ISN'T IT? NOT IT'S A NON-PROFIT.
IS IT? IT'S A NON-PROFIT PROFIT.
I, I THINK, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, I DON'T THINK ANYBODY I CAN, I CAN UNDERSTAND.
I DON'T THINK PEOPLE ARE GONNA COME AND HAVE LIKE A, SOME KIND OF FOR-PROFIT EVENT SATURDAY AFTER SATURDAY, AFTER SATURDAY.
I, I CAN UNDERSTAND THAT I AM, ME PERSONALLY, I'M WILLING TO ALLOW PEOPLE, IF THEY, THEY WANNA HAVE A EXPO AND MAKE MONEY OFF OF IT, THEN SO BE IT.
IS THERE, IS THERE LIMITATION TO HOW MANY TIMES THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO DO THAT? I CAN SEE, I CAN UNDERSTAND A LIMIT.
I THINK THAT'S WHAT THE ORIGINAL POLICY MAY HAVE BEEN CONSTRUCTED UNDER.
BUT IF THEY'RE RUNNING A BUSINESS, THEY'RE RUNNING A BUSINESS.
LIKE, LIKE I SAY, HEY, I'M GONNA, I'M GONNA RENT OUT EVERY WEEKEND AND SAT, YOU KNOW, EVERY SATURDAY.
WOULD THAT BE FAIR? THERE IS ANOTHER ASPECT OF THE POLICY THAT DOES SAY THAT THEY CAN MONOPOLIZE THEM.
SO, SO YEAH, SO WHATEVER COUNSEL, I, I JUST KIND OF WANT SOME DIRECTION.
IT'S ONLY IN A, IT'S ONLY A WORK FINISH ITEM, SO WE DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO SAY TWICE A YEAR ON WRITTEN ONE THAT IT SAYS THAT THEY CANNOT MONOPOLIZE IT.
WE JUST NEED TO BE CLEAR ON HOW WE DEFINE MONOPOLIZING.
AND, UM, BUT I'M, I'M WITH YOU ON THAT.
I DON'T SEE WHY WE SHOULDN'T, I DIDN'T KNOW THAT WE COULD NOT DO THAT.
DOES STAFF HAVE ANY NUMBERS ON PEOPLE REQUESTING? WE WE GET REQUESTS I ALL THE TIME TO SELL TICKETS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, BUT, UM, HOW OFTEN? UM, MONTHLY YOU, UH, WE, WE, UM, AS A CITY WE ALSO SELL TICKETS FOR THINGS LIKE DADDY DAUGHTER DANCES AND THINGS LIKE THAT THAT WE PUT ON.
SO THE CITY CAN DO IT AND NONPROFITS CAN DO IT.
I DON'T HAVE AN ISSUE WITH IT.
I DON'T, YEAH, I DIDN'T, I DIDN'T EITHER WHEN I WAS, I DIDN'T KNOW.
I DIDN'T KNOW UNTIL I WAS CONTACTED.
I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE DEFINITION OF MONOPOLIZING IT, BUT QUARTERLY I THINK IT'S ONE OF THOSE, IF IT STARTS TO BE A PROBLEM, THEN WE CAN FIX IT.
I FEEL LIKE STAFF CAN MANAGE THE MONOPOLIZING AND IF THEY CAN'T THEN THEY CAN COME BACK.
SO THE OTHER SIDE I ALSO GET CONTACTED JUST AS MUCH.
UM, YOU KNOW, THERE'S, THERE'S SOME ORGANIZATIONS THEY DO LIKE, UH, PERF BUNCO OR BINGO OR WHATEVER, AND THEY MAY HAVE, YOU KNOW, SOME GLASSES OF WINE AND, AND, UH, AS FOR CONSUMPTION, NOT FOR THE CELL.
I'M NOT, I'M NOT PROPOSING THE CELL OF ALCOHOL, BUT, UM, IT WOULD BE THE CONSUMPTION OF ALCOHOL FIRST.
AND IT'S A WHATEVER I DON'T HAVE ISSUE WITH THAT.
WE HAVE, WE ALLOW IT AT, UM, AT EVERGREEN.
SO THIS WOULD JUST BE A LARGER VENUE.
UH, YOU COULD GET INTO SOME CASES WHERE LET'S SAY IT'S A WEDDING OR OTHER EVENTS LIKE THAT HAVE THE WEDDING OR COMMUNITY CENTER.
I REALLY DON'T HAVE AN ISSUE WITH THAT EITHER.
WE COULD, WE CAN CERTAINLY INSTITUTE THE SAME ALCOHOL POLICY THAT'S AT EVERGREEN.
AND AS FAR AS I KNOW, I HAVEN'T HEARD OF ANY ISSUES OF ANY EVENTS.
AND THE CURRENT POLICY I FIND DOESN'T DEFINE MONOPOLY, BUT IT SAYS NO SINGLE ACTIVITY OF SPECIAL INTEREST SHALL BE PERMITTED TO MONOPOLIZE ANY FACILITY.
THE FREQUENCY OF USAGE OF A FACILITY WILL BE AT THE APPROVAL OF THE DIRECTOR OF PARKS AND RECREATION FOR THE DESIGNATED.
WE, WE, WE'LL LET STAFF DECIDE WHAT THAT IS, WHAT THE ALCOHOL POLICY IS AT EVERGREEN.
SO THEY HAVE TO GET A PERMIT, PERMIT LIABILITY.
YEAH, IT'S A LOT PRIVATE EVENT.
I'VE GONE THROUGH IT FOR MY HUSBAND'S 50TH.
IT WAS, SO WE BROUGHT UP ALCOHOL.
THE ONLY CONSUMPTION IS NOT THE CELL.
THE THIRD TIME WE BRING UP ALCOHOL.
SEEMS LIKE WE BRING IT UP QUITE OFTEN FACE.
BUT I MEAN, KNOW, WE DISCUSSED ALCOHOL OVER THE LAST 12 MONTHS THAN WE HAVE IN SEVEN YEARS FROM COUNSEL.
WHEN IT COMES TO THE POLICE OFFICERS, DO WE, WHEN ALCOHOL IS BEING SERVED, ARE WE SAYING WE WANT SO MANY POLICE OFFICERS PER HOWEVER, THE NUMBER, UM, PER 25 OR 30 INDIVIDUALS, ARE WE DOING THAT? NO, IT'S JUST IF THEY'RE GONNA HAVE ALCOHOL, THEY NEED TO HAVE OFFICER RIGHTS.
YOU HAVE TWO, YOU HAVE TO HAVE TWO OFFICERS FOR ANY ALCOHOL.
AND THEN IF YOU GO OVER A HUNDRED OR WHATEVER THE PARK DIRECT DIRECTOR CAN, THERE'S A, THERE'S A, IT'S BASED OFF HOW MANY PEOPLE ATTENDING AND THAT'S HOW THEY MAKE THE SECURITY.
SO AFTER YOU PAY THEM SEPARATELY, THAT'S NOT, YOU PAY THEM SEPARATELY.
WHAT'S THAT NUMBER THEY MAKE? NO, UM, ON TWO OFFICERS UP TO,
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FOR HOW MANY PEOPLE? WE DON'T REALLY TRY TO DO ABOUT A HUNDRED, A HUNDRED WEEK, THEN WE REQUIRE ANOTHER OFFICER.IF YOU'RE NOT 500 PEOPLE, YOU HAVE MORE.
WHEN, WHEN YOU GET EVENT INSURANCE, YOU HAVE TO KIND OF SAY THE PARAMETERS AT YOUR PARTY AND THINGS LIKE THAT AND THEN WE'LL KINDA GET THAT INFORMATION AND MAKE THAT TERMINATION.
SO AS AN EXAMPLE, THERE'S A, LET SAY A LOCAL SERVICE ORGANIZATION THAT I BELONG TO, THEY WANNA DO, UH, THEIR ANNUAL CATFISH AND SHRIMP FESTIVAL.
AND THEY, THEY JUST ALLOW THE CONSUMPTION, THEY'LL PROVIDE THE ALCOHOL.
ONE EXAMPLE, THERE'S MANY, MANY MORE.
SO I KNOW THERE'S BEEN OTHER ORGANIZATION SERVICE ORGANIZATIONS THAT THE JUNIOR LEAGUE HAS APPROACHED ME AND THEY DO A PURSE BINGO AND THEY GIVE AWAY TO ATTENDEE
WE'RE CURRENTLY DOING IT AT THE HARRIS COUNTY COMMUNITY CENTER IN HIGHLANDS.
AND THEY'D LIKE TO HAVE IT IN BAYTOWN.
SO ONE OF THE THINGS YOU WANTED TO DO TONIGHT IS JUST GET YOUR APPETITE FOR THIS KIND OF A POLICY MODIFICATION.
AND THE APPROPRIATE PATHWAY IS TO PUT SOMETHING TOGETHER AND MOVE IT TO THE PARKS AND REC BOARD, UH, FOR THEIR CONSIDERATION.
AND THAT THEN IT'LL COME BACK TO YOU SO YOU UNDERSTAND GUIDELINES AND EVERYTHING KIND OF BUILT THAT.
SO WOULD YOU, AT THAT POINT, IF IT'S HELD HERE AT THE COMMUNITY CENTER AND THEY'RE SERVING ALCOHOL, WOULD YOU REQUIRE AN OFFICER AS WELL? I WOULD SAY, OH YEAH.
I WOULD THINK WE, WE DO THE SAME POLICY AT EVERGREEN IS HERE.
I WOULDN'T, I WOULDN'T DEVIATE FROM THAT ALL.
SO, SO THAT, THAT WE CAN TAKE A LOOK AT IT.
THIS LET'S, IT HAS TO BE BAYTOWN PD.
THEY CANNOT GO WITH CONSTABLE OR STATE.
WELL, I'VE GONE WITH CON IT DEPENDS ON MANNING, BUT I THINK AS LONG AS IT'S AN OFFICER, YEAH.
UM, YOU CAN, YOU HAVE THAT ONE.
WE, WE WOULD RATHER BE ALL BAYTOWN POLICE.
IF BAYTOWN POLICE CAN'T STAFF IT, WE HAVE TO REQUIRE ONE BAYTOWN POLICE OFFICER AND THEN YOU CAN SUPPLEMENT WITH HARRIS COUNTY.
I GUESS LOOK AT A POLICY FOR ADD.
THE ONLY QUESTION I HAVE, IS IT GONNA BE THE COMMUNITY CENTER A CERTAIN ROOM? OR IS IT ANY ROOMS THERE? I MEAN, I, I WOULD, I WOULD JUST DO IT IN THE BIG ROOM ROOM HONESTLY.
UM, WELL I MAYBE THE BIG ROOM.
WHAT'S THE, WHAT'S THE OTHER ROOM NEXT TO IT? ROOM AUDITORIUM, MEETING ROOM.
I THINK I'VE HAD A NAME, BUT OKAY.
I WOULD SAY THAT AREA, THE BIGGER ROOMS, ROOMS, THAT PART, THAT SIDE OF IT.
BUT, UM, YEAH, I'D LIKE, I, I GUESS I'D JUST HAVE TO SEE WHAT THE POLICY WE Y'ALL COME UP WITH.
I WOULD SAY KEEP IT EXACTLY LIKE EVERY AREA.
SO IT'S OPEN TO LOOKING AT WHAT Y'ALL BRING UP.
ALRIGHT, MOVING ON TO ITEM ONE C.
[c. Discuss The Cottages at San Jacinto Boulevard Development.]
DISCUSS THE COLLEGES OF SINO BOULEVARD DEVELOPMENT.SO, UH, YOUR FACES IN THE ROOM,
SO, UH, YOU PROBABLY ALL REMEMBER THAT, UH, THE, UM, THE AREA ALONG SAN SINO BOULEVARD, UH, OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS HAS BEEN KIND OF EYEBALLED FOR SOME BIG THINGS.
AND SO EARLIER THIS YEAR, UM, YOU WERE SHOWN A, A PLAN FOR THAT AREA, A LAND PLAN THAT THE CITY, UH,
AND, UM, SO IN THAT, UH, WE HAVE OUR FIRST, UM, APPLICATION FOR THAT AREA THAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING TO THE APPLICANTS FOR A COUPLE OF MONTHS NOW.
UM, AND TIFFANY FOSTER IS HERE TO PRESENT AND INTRODUCE THE REST OF HER, UH, FOR, SO WITH THAT, I'LL, I'LL LET YOU TAKE IT.
UH, MY NAME IS TIFFANY FOSTER AND, UH, I'M HONORED TO BE BACK HERE IN FRONT OF YOU AGAIN, AND VERY EXCITED ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT, THE COTTAGES AT SAN JA SINO BOULEVARD.
YOU MAY REMEMBER YEARS AGO WHEN WE DESIGNED SINO BOULEVARD, UM, BEFORE CONSTRUCTION AND DURING CONSTRUCTION OF THE BOULEVARD, WE, WE KNEW WE WANTED THIS TO BE A VERY SPECIAL AREA OF THE CITY, AND WE WANTED IT TO BE UNIQUE.
SO FOLLOWING THE CONSTRUCTION, UH, THE CITY PUT IN PLACE AN OVERLAY DISTRICT TO COVER THIS AREA THAT WERE, UM, KIND OF RESTRICTIONS AND, AND, UH, RULES THAT WERE OVER AND ABOVE WHAT WE HAD IN OUR ULDC OR IN OUR ZONING CODE.
AND SO WE, WE ALSO LOOKED AT HAVING MIXED USE TYPE OF DEVELOPMENTS, COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENTS, UM, HIGHER STANDARDS WHEN YOU CAME TO, UH, THE WAY YOU MIX COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL.
AND WE ALSO DID SAY WE WANTED SOME TYPE OF HIGHER DENSITY RESIDENTIAL.
SO WHAT YOU SEE IN THE OVERLAY DISTRICT, THE S CENTRAL OVERLAY DISTRICT, YOU SEE, UM, THE DISTRICT'S
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BROKEN UP IN THREE DIFFERENT TIERS WHERE YOU HAVE MORE COMMERCIAL, EVEN MIXED USE CLOSER TO I 10.AND AS YOU MOVE SOUTH, YOU HAVE MORE OF YOUR RESIDENTIAL.
UM, THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS ROUGHLY ABOUT 13 AND A HALF ACRES, 13.5 ACRES.
AND IT IS VERY CLOSE TO THE RESIDENTIAL.
AND WHAT WE, WHAT WE, WHAT THE CITY OF BAYTOWN DID AT THAT TIME, UM, DESIGNATED IT FOR A HIGHER DENSITY, UM, RESIDENTIAL USE.
AND SO WHAT WE'RE BRINGING TO YOU TONIGHT IS A PROJECT THAT IS GOING TO SHOW YOU A HIGHER DENSITY RESIDENTIAL USE THAT IS, UM, HORIZONTAL MULTIFAMILY.
THEY'RE SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED, UH, RESIDENTIAL UNITS, UM, THAT IS OWNED AND MANAGED BY ONE, ONE PARTICULAR OWNER.
AND SO I WANT TO INTRODUCE REAM COMPANIES.
DANIEL BLANCO IS GOING TO TAKE YOU THROUGH, UM, UH, PRESENTATION TO KIND OF TALK YOU THROUGH THE CONCEPT BECAUSE THIS IS ALSO A NEW CONCEPT, UH, HERE IN BAYTOWN.
AND IT IS THAT MISSING HOUSING THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT FOR QUITE A FEW YEARS OF HOUSING THAT WE JUST DO NOT HAVE IN, IN BAYTOWN.
WE, WE DID NOT WANT ANY ADDITIONAL, UH, TRADITIONAL GARDEN STYLE MULTIFAMILY, BUT THERE IS A NEED TO HAVE SOME TYPE OF, UH, RESIDENTIAL IN BETWEEN WHEN PEOPLE DO NOT WANNA BE IN A MULTIFAMILY GARDEN STYLE APARTMENT AND THEY MAY NOT BE READY FOR HOME OWNERSHIP.
SO WE WANNA BRING THIS PRODUCT TO YOU ALSO TO PROVIDE ANOTHER TYPE OF HOUSING, UH, HERE FOR THE CITY OF BANK TOWN.
AND WITH THAT, I'M GONNA TURN IT OVER TO MR WELL, THIS IS EMBARRASSING BECAUSE THIS IS NOT OUR PRESENTATION
UH, SO LET ME JUST PULL THIS UP REAL QUICK.
I THINK SHE'S WORKING ON TRYING TO FIGURE OUT, NO, IT'S ALL RIGHT.
UM, THIS IS OUR PRODUCT, BUT IT'S NOT REALLY THE PRESENTATION, SO.
AGAIN, MY NAME IS DANIEL BLANCO.
WE ARE THE OWNER AND DEVELOPER OF SAN JACK BOULEVARD, HOPEFULLY.
AND, UH, WE'RE HERE TODAY TO JUST KIND OF INTRODUCE OURSELVES, INTRODUCE THE TEAM, TALK ABOUT WHAT WE DO, HOW WE DO IT, AND THEN GET RIGHT INTO THE PROTEIN OF THE PROJECT.
UH, SO TODAY, UH, WITH US WE HAVE CATHERINE WITH META.
THEY'RE OUR LAND PLANNING TEAM.
THEY HAVE A LOT OF RECENT SUCCESS IN BAYTOWN WITH LIVABLE CENTERS AND PLAN UNIT DEVELOPMENTS, RECENT SUCCESS I SHOULD SAY.
SO WE HAVE THEM ON PART OF OUR LAND PLANNING TEAM.
WE ALSO HAVE KIMLEY HORN, WHO'S OUR ENGINEERING GROUP AND OUR LANDSCAPING ARCHITECT.
THEY HAVE DIRECT EXPERIENCE WITH SAN JACK BOULEVARD.
UM, WE HAVE TIFFANY HERE WHO'S BEEN A, A HUGE PART OF, OF REALLY CULTIVATING THAT VISION AND HELPING MAKE SURE THAT OUR VISION MATCHES WITH THE, NOT ONLY THE HISTORY OF BAYTOWN, BUT THE FUTURE LAND USE OF BAYTOWN, HOW IT TIES INTO THE OVERLAY DISTRICT.
UH, WE HAVE A, A, UH, ANDERSON ARCHITECTS IS THE, THE LOGO THERE ON THE BOTTOM LEFT.
THEY DO A LOT OF OUR BUILDING DESIGN, OUR AMENITY DESIGNS.
THEY PLAY SPECIFIC IN THIS SPACE.
UH, WHICH, WHICH YOU'LL, YOU'LL UNDERSTAND THE, THE BUILDING CLASS HERE IN A SECOND.
AND THEN LASTLY, WE HAVE JOHN BURNS REAL ESTATE GROUP.
THAT'S OUR CONSULTING FIRM THAT REALLY SUBSTANTIATES THE MARKET THAT WE'RE IN.
IT REALLY JUST SAYS, HEY, THIS IS A SQUARE PEG, SQUARE HOLE.
THIS IS SOMETHING THAT THE CITY CAN BENEFIT FROM.
SO WHAT WE DO IS WE ARE COMMUNITY RE REAL ESTATE DEVELOPERS.
UH, WE THROW THE WORD COMMUNITY IN THERE AT THE BEGINNING BECAUSE WE REALLY DO GET EXCITED ABOUT HAVING A DIRECT, MORE TANGIBLE IMPACT TO THE COMMUNITIES THAT WE WORK WITH.
AND SO WE DO THAT THROUGH OUR REAL ESTATE PROJECTS.
WE LIKE TO UNDERSTAND WHERE PEOPLE WANT TO BE, WHERE CITIES WANT TO BE.
UH, WE WANT TO UNDERSTAND THE GOOD, THE BAD, AND THE UGLY.
AND WE TRY AND FIT A NARRATIVE AND A PROJECT AROUND THOSE NEEDS.
UH, WE FOCUS IN MIXED USE, COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL.
UH, AND WE LIKE TO BRING THE HIGHEST AND BEST USE TO EVERY PROPERTY THAT WE DO.
HOW WE DO THAT IS WE REALLY GO THROUGH A LOT OF RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT.
WE REALLY TRY TO GET UN UNCOVER ALL THE SKELETONS, KNOCK OFF ALL THE COBWEBS, FIGURE OUT WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THAT CITY THAT WE'VE CHOSE TO WORK WITH, AND REALLY TRY TO ASSEMBLE THE TEAM AROUND THAT, THAT ARE THE EXPERTS IN THEIR SPECIFIC FIELDS FOR THAT SPECIFIC PROJECT.
SO WE DON'T TYPICALLY PICK UP OUR TEAM AND GO ALL OVER THE PLACE.
WHAT WE'LL LOOK AT IS A CITY AND WE SAY, WHO HAD HAD THE MOST SUCCESS IN THAT CITY FROM A TEAM'S PERSPECTIVE? AND LET'S BRING THOSE INDIVIDUALS TO THE TABLE.
'CAUSE THEY BRING THE MOST KNOWLEDGE AND CAN SHORTCUT A LOT OF THE, THE TROUBLESOME TIMES AFTER WE ASSEMBLE THAT TEAM.
AND GUYS, I'M, I'M GOING FAST FOR THE SPIRIT OF TIME 'CAUSE I KNOW YOU HAVE A MEETING AFTER THIS, BUT AFTER WE REALLY SPLIT, AFTER WE ASSEMBLE THAT TEAM, THAT'S WHEN WE GET TO WHERE WE ARE NEXT, WHICH IS SITE SPECIFIC CURATION.
WE LIKE TO SAY WE BRING A SITE TO OUR, OUR PROJECT TO OUR SITE, NOT A SITE, TO OUR PROJECT.
SO WE'VE IDENTIFIED SANJAC BOULEVARD AS AN OPPORTUNITY.
WE WANTED TO FIGURE OUT WHAT IN OUR BAG OF TRICKS CAN WE BRING THAT HELPS CATAPULT THE VISION FOR SAN JAC BOULEVARD IN THE OVERLAY DISTRICT.
SO WE HAVE A 13 AND A HALF ACRE PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT WE ARE THE PROUD OWNERS OF
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AS OF TOMORROW.SO I HOPE THIS MEETING GOES WELL.
AND, UH, IT'S RIGHT HERE LOCATED AT THE SOUTH CORNER, I WOULD SAY, OF YOUR OVERLAY DISTRICT.
SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE LOOK AT WHEN WE'RE IDENTIFYING THE PROPERTY CHARACTERISTICS IS WHERE IS IT LOCATED? OBVIOUSLY THE ZONING IT'S ZONED RIGHT NOW IN THAT OVERLAY DISTRICT SLASH LIVABLE CENTER.
IT'S A GOOD BUFFER BETWEEN YOUR GENERAL COMMERCIAL AND ACCORDING TO YOUR FUTURE LAND USE PLAN, YOUR LOW TO MID DENSITY RESIDENTIAL.
SO IT ACTS AS A GOOD TRANSITIONAL ELEMENT, UH, FOR THE PROPOSED PROJECT, WHICH WE'LL GET INTO NEXT.
IT'S GOT ALL THE UTILITIES, UH, TO THE SITE.
IT'S INTENDED PER YOUR FUTURE LAND USE PLAN TO BE HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL.
AND WE WANT TO KEEP WITH THOSE CHARACTERISTICS.
THAT'S ALSO NEXT TO A REGIONAL DETENTION REGIONAL'S, KIND OF A, A, A LOOSE LIP FOR, FOR THAT PARTICULAR DETENTION POND.
UM, REALLY THAT'S A DETENTION POND THAT WAS SPECIFIC FOR THE WATERSHED OF SAN JACK BOULEVARD.
UH, THE INTERESTING PART ABOUT YOUR GUYS' OVERLAY DISTRICT, AND WE COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND THE, THE CONTENT AND WHERE WE WERE GOING, BUT THE IDEA WAS IS THAT WE DO NOT WANT TO HAVE ONSITE SURFACE DETENTION TAKE UP ALL OF THESE PROJECTS ALONG SAN JACK.
SO WE REALLY ARE TRYING TO GET EVERYBODY INTO THIS REGIONAL DETENTION FACILITY.
WELL, 'CAUSE WE'RE THE FIRST PROJECT, THERE IS NO DEFINED REGIONAL FACILITY, SO WE'RE HAVING TO CREATE ONE FOR OUR PROJECT.
IT JUST SO HAPPENS THAT THIS PROPERTY WAS ADJACENT TO CITY OWNED DETENTION FACILITY THAT WE SAW AS AN OPPORTUNITY TO AMENITIZE.
WE'RE TAKING A DRY DETENTION POND.
WE'RE WORKING WITH STAFF, WE'RE WORKING WITH THE ENGINEERS, WE'RE WORKING IN THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT.
AND WE'RE UTILIZING THAT DETENTION TO BE THE DETENTION FOR OUR SIDE AS WELL.
BUT WE'RE TURNING IT INTO A PUBLIC AMENITY THAT SAN JACK BOULEVARD CAN BENEFIT OFF OF A WET BOTTOM POND WITH WALKING TRAILS ALL THE WAY AROUND IT.
PLEASE STOP ME IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
SO OUR NEXT, SO AFTER WE KIND OF DIVE THROUGH AND GET ALL OF THIS DATA, WE UNDERSTAND THAT IT'S ZONED RESIDENTIAL.
WE KNOW WHAT IT'S INTENDED FOR TIGHT DENSITY.
WE WANT TO ATTRACT QUALITY RESIDENTS TO THE SITE.
WE WANT IT TO BE MORE TRANSITIONARY FROM COMMERCIAL TO LOW TO MID DENSITY RESIDENTIAL.
WE KNOW WE DON'T WANT AN APARTMENT COMPLEX.
WE KNOW WE'RE NOT TARGETING LOW TO MODERATE INCOME.
MOST IMPORTANTLY FOR US, IT NEEDS TO BE A FINANCIAL PROJECT.
SO WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE PUTTING SOMETHING IN THERE THAT GIVES US THE BEST CHANCE OF SUCCESS AND WE WANT TO EXCEED THE CITY STANDARDS.
SO WHEN WE THINK THROUGH ALL OF THAT, THE AHA MOMENT FOR EVERYBODY WOULD SHOW YOU OUR LAND PLAN.
BUT I CAN'T DO THAT RIGHT NOW.
SO I'M HAPPY TO PASS THIS OUT AND MAKE SURE YOU GUYS HAVE, UH, ACCESS TO THIS LAND PLAN.
BUT ESSENTIALLY WHAT WE'VE CREATED IS A SMALL HOME SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY.
WE USE THE TERM COTTAGES FOR OUR SMALL HOME.
IT'S A GATED COMMUNITY WITH ENHANCED SECURITY, 24 HOUR, SEVEN DAYS A WEEK, MAINTENANCE, FRONT YARDS, BACKYARDS, EVERYTHING IS JUST KITTEN OF CABOODLE, LOCK AND LEAVE CONCEPT.
WE'RE REALLY JUST TRYING TO CREATE THIS LUXURY LIFESTYLE THAT IS JUST HASSLE FREE LIVING, BUT ALSO HAS THE PERKS OF THANK YOU.
UH, ALSO HAS THE PERKS OF SINGLE FAMILY.
SOME OF THE PERKS OF THE SINGLE FAMILY ARE EVERY UNIT HAS ONSITE AT UNIT PARKING, WHETHER IT'S AN ATTACHED GARAGE OR WHETHER IT'S AN ATTACHED, UH, OPEN SPACE NEXT TO THE UNIT.
BUT THIS IS, THIS DOESN'T ACT LIKE AN APARTMENT COMPLEX IN THE SENSE WHERE YOU'RE PARKING IN A, IN A CLUSTERED AREA AND YOU HAVE TO WALK YOUR GROCERIES ALL THE WAY ACROSS THE PARKING LOT TO YOUR UNIT.
YOU ARE PARKING AT YOUR ACTUAL UNIT, WHETHER IT'S INSIDE A GARAGE OR IN AN ADJACENT PARKING SPOT.
UH, HIGHLY AMENITIZED, UH, EVERY UNIT HAS BACKYARD.
EVERY UNIT HAS THEIR OWN PRIVATE YARD.
UH, WE ALSO HAVE, I'LL LET SOME OF THIS GET INTO CIRCULATION.
UM, WE ALSO HAVE PARKLETS THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY.
SO WE HAVE IDENTIFIED 10 LOCATIONS INSIDE 13 ACRES TO HAVE PARKLETS THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY WITH A DOG PARK, A DOG WASH STATION.
UM, I MENTIONED LOCK AND LEAVE CONCEPT.
UH, SOME OF THE THINGS THAT YOU GUYS MIGHT NOT BE ABLE TO, TO TELL THROUGH THE, THE CIRCULATING DOCUMENT IS WE TRIED EXTREMELY HARD TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR PARKING WAS CONCEALED IN ALLEYWAYS.
WE'VE WORKED WITH THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT, WE'VE GOTTEN ALL OF THE FEEDBACK AND WE'VE REALLY TAKEN APPROACH TO LISTENING TO THE, THE PAIN POINTS FOR DEVELOPMENT IN THIS AREA.
AND WE REALLY TRIED TO REFLECT, UH, HOW WELL WE'VE LISTENED INTO OUR LAND PLAN.
SO WE HAVE ALLEY PARKING WAY, WHICH ALLOWS US TO HAVE THIS BEAUTIFUL STREET SCAPE.
IT MAINTAINS THAT FRONT FACADE WITH NOT A BROKEN UP GARAGE OR PARKING IN FRONT OF IT.
AND, UH, ANOTHER THING WE ARE ABLE TO DO IS WE ARE ABLE TO CREATE A, A, UH, A PUBLIC AMENITY TO SAN JACK THAT DOES TIE INTO THE BIG TRAIL SYSTEM.
YOU GUYS HAVE A, A WONDERFUL INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECT THERE.
UH, WE'RE HOPING TO ADD VALUE TO IT AND TIE IN WITH IT.
WHAT'S THAT WHITE THING? UM, THERE AN EXISTING BUILDING.
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THIS RIGHT HERE, IS THAT A BUILDING THAT'S A SPILLWAY.SO THAT'S A DRAINAGE SPILLWAY, UH, THAT WHEN THIS SINK FILLS UP, IT JUST GOES OVER INTO HARRIS COUNTY'S DITCH.
DO YOU HAVE A QUESTION ON YOUR YES.
UM, SO WE CURRENTLY HAVE A COTTAGE DEVELOPMENT RIGHT NOW, UM, THAT HAS ALLEY PARKING AND IT'S AN OLD DEVELOPMENT, SHADY HILL
AND WE CONSTANTLY GET CALLS BECAUSE OF COURSE NOW EVERYBODY IN THE HOUSEHOLD HAS TO HAVE A CAR.
AND SO THEY PARK NOT JUST IN THEIR OWN GARAGE, BUT ALL ALONG.
AND SO OTHER NEIGHBORS CAN'T PULL OUT BECAUSE THERE'S A BLOCKED CAR OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
SO IS THIS A, UH, UH, IS THIS A, A INDIVIDUALLY OWNED UNIT? THEY'RE ALL INDIVIDUALLY OWNED UNITS, BUT THEY'RE, THEY LOOK LIKE COTTAGES BECAUSE THEY'RE ALL TOGETHER.
THEY ALSO HAVE VISITOR PARKING SPACES, BUT OBVIOUSLY THEY DON'T WANT TO PARK IN THE VISITORS.
THEY ALL JUST WANT TO BE RIGHT THERE.
OR THERE'S NOT ENOUGH VISITOR PARKING.
SO, UM, I DON'T SEE WHERE YOU WOULD HAVE, OR YOU DO HAVE VISITOR PARKING OR YES.
HOW WOULD YOU HANDLE THAT? BECAUSE ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE TOLD THEM THAT THEY NEED TO DO IS CREATE THEIR OWN HOA ORDINANCE AND PUT PUT, UM, TOW AWAY SIGNS.
LIKE, SO YOU'RE PARKED HERE, YOU'RE GONNA GET TOWED 'CAUSE YOUR NEIGHBOR CAN'T GET OUT.
SO YEAH, SO, SO ESSENTIALLY WHAT SHE'S REFERRING TO IS WE HAVE, WE HAVE 28 FOOT WIDE STREETS THAT WE CONSIDER OUR MAIN COLLECTOR STREETS THROUGHOUT DEVELOPMENT.
AND THEN WE HAVE 18 FOOT ALLEYWAYS THAT ARE YOUR REAR PARKING.
UH, AGAIN, EVERY UNIT HAS ITS OWN DEDICATED PARKING SPOT, DEPENDING ON THE NUMBER OF BEDROOMS THAT THAT UNIT IS.
SO THE ONE BEDROOMS GET ONE DESIGNATED PARKING SPOT AT THE UNIT.
THE TWO BEDROOMS GET TWO SPOTS, THE THREE BEDROOMS GET TWO SPOTS.
THE WAY WE WOULD POLICE IT IS THAT, AND I WASN'T ABLE TO MAKE THIS CLEAR, I APOLOGIZE, IS THIS IS A FOUR RENT COMMUNITY WITH ONE OWNER THAT OPERATES LIKE A MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT, BUT IT'S REALLY SINGLE FAMILY HOUSES, SINGLE FAMILY UNITS.
SO WE WOULD BE ABLE TO POLICE THAT THROUGH OUR PROPERTY MANAGEMENT COMPANY AND WE WOULD MAKE SURE THAT ANY COMPLAINTS WOULD COME TO US.
WE'D REALLY TRY AND EDUCATE THE TENANTS AS HERE'S WHERE YOUR DESIGNATED PARKING IS, HERE'S WHERE YOUR, YOUR, UH, VISITOR PARKING.
UH, ONE OF THE COOL THINGS THAT MEADOW WAS ABLE TO COME UP WITH AS WE FACE THESE UNITS, IT'S REALLY DIFFICULT TO SEE ON THIS WALL, I APOLOGIZE.
BUT WE HAVE THESE GREEN BELT CORRIDOR SYSTEMS THAT TIE INTO THE CUSTOMER TO, TO THE VISITOR PARKING.
SO WE'RE ENTICING VISITORS AT THE END CAP TO PARK WHERE THEY WALK THROUGH THIS GREEN TRAIL SYSTEM TO THE VISITING UNIT THAT THEY'RE GOING TO.
SO WE'VE REALLY TRIED TO, TO TAKE THAT APPROACH TO WHERE, UM, WE UNDERSTAND PARKING.
WE WERE BORN INTO HOUSTON DEVELOPMENT, WHICH IS VERY, VERY TIGHT QUARTERS, AND WE REALLY TRIED TO TAKE THAT.
IT, IT MIGHT BE HARD TO, UH, ELABORATE ON, ON A LAND PLAN THIS SIZE, BUT WE REALLY DID TRY AND TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION EVERYBODY'S GOT THEIR DESIGNATED SPOT.
WE CAN'T, WE'LL NEVER WIN AT ALL.
UH, THERE'S GONNA BE SOMEBODY THAT PARKS IN FRONT OF A NEIGHBOR'S UNIT AND, AND MAKES EM UPSET.
UH, THE BEAUTY OF US HAVING ONSITE MAINTENANCE AND ONSITE REPRESENTATION IS THAT'S A QUICK GOLF CART RIDE FROM THE, THE LEASING CENTER OVER THERE TO HANDLE THE ISSUE.
SO WE, WE WILL TRY AND POLICE IT AS BEST AS WE CAN.
UM, I DID HAVE SOME FLOOR PLAN EXAMPLES HERE WITH SOME ELEVATIONS.
UH, GUYS, IT IS REALLY A DOG AND PONY SHOW AT THIS POINT.
WE THINK IT'S A PERFECT FIT FOR THE CITY OF BAYTOWN ON THE SANJAC BOULEVARD.
UH, SOME OF THE THINGS THAT SEPARATE US IS REALLY, IT'S OUR, EVERY UNIT HAS A PRIVATE YARD.
EVERY UNIT HAS A GARAGE OR DEDICATED PARKING SPOT.
WHEN YOU LIVE HERE, YOU FEEL LIKE YOU'RE IN A SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY.
TRADITIONAL NEIGHBORHOOD DEVELOPMENT BUILDINGS ARE 10 FEET APART.
UM, SO YOU, YOU DON'T GET THIS SENSE OF OF YOU'RE ON TOP OF EACH OTHER IN APARTMENT COMPLEX.
IT'S THE LUXURY OF THE MAINTENANCE FREE THAT AN APARTMENT COMPLEX AND MULTIFAMILY WILL GIVE YOU, OR A CONDOMINIUM WOULD EVEN GIVE YOU.
IT'S THAT LUXURY THAT THEY'RE BENEFITING FROM.
HOW DO THESE RENTS COMPARE? GREAT QUESTION.
SO WE, WE DO PULL DATA FROM THE LOCAL GARDEN STYLE APARTMENT COMPLEXES.
UH, ALTA IS OUR, IS OUR BEST FRIEND FROM A, UH, A BACKSTOP PERSPECTIVE OF WHAT HAS WORKED FOR THEM.
WE TYPICALLY DEMAND A 15 TO 20% PREMIUM AS TO WHAT A GARDEN STYLE APARTMENT COMPLEX LIKE ALTO WOULD GET.
SO THAT, THAT GENERALLY COMES IN THE FORM OF PRIVATE YARD, PRIVATE GARAGE, UH, PRIVATE ON ALL THE AMENITIES THAT COME WITH IT.
UM, OUR, OUR REC CENTER, WE HAVE A, A REC CENTER, FITNESS CENTER RESORT STYLE POOL.
IT'S PROBABLY COMPARABLE IF NOT A STEP UP FROM WHAT A A, A GARDEN STYLE CAN GIVE YOU, BUT REALLY THEY'RE PAYING FOR THE YARD SPACE, THE DETACHED, NOBODY'S ABOVE THEM AND THE ONSITE, UH, AT UNIT PARKING.
AND TO, TO ADD ONTO THAT, UM, THE COMPARISON OF ALTO ONE BEDROOM IS ROUGHLY $1,200 A MONTH PLUS, UH, ANOTHER TWO TO 300 IF YOU WANT A, A GARAGE AND DEDICATED PARKING SPOTS.
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ONE BEDROOM'S HERE TALKING ABOUT A PREMIUM OF 15, 20, 30% HIGHER THAN THAT.SO WE'RE 15, 1600 IS OUR, IS OUR TARGET.
NOW WE'VE GOT A TON OF CONSULTING THAT WE'VE GOTTA GO THROUGH.
SO WHAT THIS IS REALLY GOING TO ATTRACT IS NOT THE PEOPLE SEEKING AFFORDABLE HOUSING, IS WHAT'S GOING TO, PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO A CERTAIN LIFESTYLE.
A YOUNG PROFESSIONAL WHO'S COMING INTO THE MARKET WHO'S NOT READY TO PURCHASE A HOME YET SOMEONE WHO IS, UM, GONNA WORK HERE FOR TWO OR THREE YEARS DOES NOT WANNA PURCHASE A HOME YET.
SO THEY CAN, WHAT DO YOU CALL IT? THE, THE LOCK IN LOCK AND LEAVE LOCK.
SO YEAH, WE, THROUGH OUR RESEARCH, WE, WE DID KIND OF TARGET OUR, OUR IDEAL DEMOGRAPHICS AND, AND REALLY BAYTOWN KIND OF HAS THOSE DEMOGRAPHICS.
WHAT WE'RE NOTICING IS ABOUT 40% OF THE POPULATIONS BETWEEN 25 AND 55 YEARS OLD IN BAYTOWN.
THAT'S THE MEAT OF OUR MARKET.
BUT WHAT WE'RE THE, THE BENEFICIAL CONSEQUENCES WE'RE SEEING TO THIS TYPE OF A PRODUCT IS WE'RE ACTUALLY GETTING PEOPLE FROM THE 55 AND UP RANGE THAT ARE MOVING OUT OF THEIR HOUSES DOWNSIZING AND JUST WANT THE HASSLE-FREE MAINTENANCE.
THE ONLY WAY WE GET THOSE PEOPLE IS WITH THE QUALITY AND THE LUXURY THAT WE HAVE TO PROVIDE.
SO WE ARE, IT, IT'S VERY UNIQUE HOW MANY, UH, HOW MANY DIFFERENT ANGLES OF DEMOS THAT WE'RE GETTING, UH, THAT'S ARE ATTRACTED TO THIS.
BUT IT'S DEFINITELY NOT THE LOW INCOME.
THIS IS, THIS DEMANDS A PREMIUM TO WHAT IT, THE RENT PLACE IS OUT RIGHT NOW.
UM, DO WE HAVE ANY PLANS TO EXTEND ARCHER THROUGH HERE? I DON'T KNOW.
THOROUGH FAIR PLAN? I DON'T THINK SO.
I'VE NEVER SEEN IT ON A WELL, WE'VE DISCUSSED IT.
I KNOW IN OUR CONVERSATION WE COME BY THE SOUTH.
UM, THE EXTENSION OF ARCH ROAD IS ON THE CURRENT MAJOR THOROUGHFARE PLANT.
UM, AND LOOKING AT THE DEVELOPMENT OF SAN JACINTO AND SAN TAVI, WE HAVE DECIDED THE CITY PREVIOUSLY DECIDED AS STAFF, NOT, I'M NOT, WE, WE PREVIOUSLY DECIDED AS STAFF THAT THAT IS NOT NECESSARY EVEN FROM A, A MOBILITY STANDPOINT.
AND THEN THE ENGINEERING, UM, DIFFICULTIES IN THAT AREA, HAVING THE HARRIS COUNTY FLOOD CONTROL DITCH IN IT, IT JUST DOESN'T MAKE SENSE.
SO, UM, WHAT WE HAD DISCUSSED, UH, WITH THIS PROJECT IS THAT THE CITY WILL MOVE FORWARD WITH CLEANING UP THE, THE MAJOR THOROUGHFARE PLAN, UH, IN A COUPLE OF MONTHS AS THEY GO THROUGH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN UPDATE.
SO THAT'S ALREADY KIND OF IN PROCESS RIGHT NOW.
THERE'S NO PROPOSED EXIT ON THAT SIDE OF THE DEVELOPMENT.
SO IF WE WERE TO EVER EXTEND ARCHER, I DUNNO IF YOU'D WANT TO LEAVE ROOM FOR AN EXIT THERE.
UM, SO LET'S, WE NEED TO WRAP THIS UP.
IS THERE ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS THERE? ASK QUESTION? YES.
SO I'M ASSUMING YOU GUYS HAVE DEVELOPED THIS CONCEPT IN OTHER CITIES.
UH, OUR CONSULTANTS HAVE A STRONG, ACTUALLY HAVE DEVELOPED IT IN MULTIPLE CITIES IN SAN ANTONIO MARKET.
THIS WOULD BE OUR FIRST PROJECT FOR BUILD FOR RENT HERE.
SO THERE'S NOT A CITY OR A PROJECT IN THE GREATER HOUSTON AREA AND WHERE YOU COULD WANT TO, WE, WE WOULD HAVE TO TAKE A LOOK AT SAN ANTONIO.
UH, NO, THERE'S, THERE'S STUFF IN THE HOUSTON AREA.
EVERYTHING'S UNDER CONSTRUCTION RIGHT NOW.
UH, THE ESTABLISHED ONES THAT WE'VE KIND OF TAKE MOLD TO ARE IN, IN, IN PLACES THAT YOU CAN DRIVE AND EXPERIENCE THAT IS IN THE SAN ANTONIO MARKET.
BUT WE HAVE A LIST OF, OF STUFF IN THE HOUSTON AREA TOO THAT WE CAN PROVIDE YOU GUYS.
I KNOW WHEN WE MET, WHEN WE MET PREVIOUSLY, YOU GUYS SHOWED US SEVERAL, UM, MARKETING VIDEOS YES, ABSOLUTELY.
FOR SOME OF YOUR OTHER PROJECTS.
SO SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THAT'S ALL AVAILABLE ON YOUTUBE.
YEAH, AND IT'S, UH, I CAN PASS, I'LL MAKE SURE THAT THIS GETS DISTRIBUTED.
UH, BUT WE HAVE EXAMPLES AND VIDEOS, UH, ON OUR POWERPOINT PRESENTATION OF THE COMMUNITIES THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
THE LAST THING THAT I JUST WANT TO, TO MENTION ABOUT THE ASSET CLASS IS ONE OF THE MOST COMPELLING, UH, NATURES OF, OF THIS DEVELOPMENT IS OUR, OUR TENANT MIX IS ACTUALLY A LONG-TERM TENANT WHERE IN A TRADITIONAL MULTIFAMILY MARKET, YOU'RE GETTING A ONE TO 18 MONTH TURNAROUND PERIOD FROM TENANT TO TENANT.
WE'RE LOCKING IN TENANTS FOR FIVE YEARS IN THIS ASSET CLASS.
SO THESE ARE THE PEOPLE THAT ACTUALLY WANT TO LIVE HERE AND THEY WANNA STAY HERE FOR A WHILE.
IT'S A, IT'S A PRETTY GOOD MARKET.
IT'S, IT'S WORTH POINTING OUT THAT, UH, WE'RE ANTICIPATING A TIMELINE FOR THIS, FOR A, UH, PUD OVERLAY FOR THIS PROJECT.
UM, START BY GOING TO, UH, P AND Z TOMORROW NIGHT AND THEN WOULD HAVE A SECOND HEARING IN DECEMBER.
SO WE WOULD EXPECT THIS WITHOUT ANY HICCUPS TO COME BACK TO COUNCIL IN JUNE.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? YOU SAID YOU'RE GONNA MAKE THAT PRESENTATION AVAILABLE TO US? I CAN, YES.
I'LL MAKE SURE I SAID DO YOU HAVE FLOOR PLANS IN THAT PRESENTATION? YEAH, WE HAVE, UH, WE HAVE SOME OF OUR FLOOR PLAN EXAMPLES, ELEVATION EXAMPLES.
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THERE'S A VIDEO ON HERE THAT I WOULD, I LED WITH THAT, IF THAT WAS THE ONLY THING I COULD SAY TODAY, I'D SHOW THIS VIDEO.UH, IT REALLY EXPLAINS THE PROGRAMMING BEHIND THESE DEVELOPMENTS.
AND CITY CLERK WILL MAKE COPIES IF Y'ALL WANT THIS TONIGHT.
THEY'RE PROVIDE, THEY'RE GONNA PROVIDE THAT THROUGH THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE ON PRESENTATION, HOWEVER I NEED TO.
UM, SO THAT'LL CLOSE ITEM ONE C.
[d. Discuss any or all of the agenda items on the City Council Special Meeting Agenda for November 15, 2021, which is attached below.]
D IS JUST TO YES OR YES.SO I'D LIKE TO ASK THE CHIEF THAT THERE'S NOTHING ELSE TO OKAY.
QUICKLY TOUCH ON A COUPLE OF ITEMS THAT YOU'RE GONNA CONSIDER TONIGHT ON THE CONSENT.
EXPLAIN A NEW METHODOLOGY THAT WE'RE UTILIZING FOR APPARATUS.
SO REAL QUICKLY, UM, THE ITEMS ARE THE FERENCE OF TWO FIRE ENGINES AND THERE'S ALSO A QUICK ENGINE THAT'S ALREADY BEEN WE, UM, WE WERE LOOKING AT WAYS TO, UM, IMPROVE OUR, OUR FLEET CYCLE AND MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE OUR PURCHASING OUR APPARATUS IN SUCH A WAY THAT THEY CAN BE REPLACED AND THAT OUR RESERVE FLEET WAS, WOULD ALSO BE STRONG AND BE RELIABLE.
AND SO IN DOING THAT, YOU'RE LOOKING OUT FORWARD, WE USING FIRE CONTROL FUNDS WAITING UNTIL WE HAD SAVED UP ENOUGH MONEY TO PURCHASE THE APPARATUS.
UM, SIDS MARTIN, WHERE WE BUY PIERCE, UM, FIRE TRUCKS FROM, THEY HAVE A LEASE PURCHASE.
SO WE STARTED LOOKING AT THE LEASE PURCHASE OPTION.
THE RATES WERE LOW, UM, FIRST PAYMENT'S NOT DUE TILL THE TRUCK GETS HERE, SO OUT ANOTHER YEAR BEFORE WE PAY.
AND WE ENDED UP, AS WE WERE TALKING WITH CITY STAFF, UH, WE CAME UP WITH THE IDEA OF DOING A LOAN FROM THE GENERAL FUND TO FIRE CONTROL AND THEN STILL DOING THE REPAYMENT THE SAME WAY, WHICH WAS, UM, NOT THIS YEAR, BUT IN THE, THE YEAR THAT WE HIT THE TRUCK, WHICH IS GONNA BE NEXT YEAR.
AND WE WOULD'VE THREE YEARS OF PAYMENTS AND UM, IT WOULD BE PAID BACK IN THAT MANNER AND THAT WAY THERE, THERE'S A COUPLE IMPORTANT REASONS WHY WE WANNA DO THAT.
ONE IS, UM, UH, WE NEED TO GET A COUPLE MORE OF THE NEW FIRE APPARATUS SO THAT OUR RESERVE FLEET IS ALSO STRONG OR RESERVE FLEET IS NOT IN GREAT SHAPE.
AND WE LOST A TRUCK IN AN ACCIDENT A COUPLE YEARS AGO AND, UM, DELAYS WITH COVID WITH ENGINE TWO, TWO AND A HALF YEARS, ENGINE TWO.
AND SO NOW WE'RE SEEING, UM, SIGNIFICANT COST INCREASES.
AND THEN EVERY JANUARY THEY HAVE A REGULAR COST INCREASE.
SO PULLING THE TRIGGER NOW ON PURCHASE WILL SAVE US FROM THE, THE INCREASES FOR MATERIALS.
THE INCREASE IN JANUARY, THAT'S THE ANNUAL INCREASE.
UM, ANYWAY, SO, UM, SO, OH, AND THEN WE'LL ALSO GET THE PREPAYMENT, UM, DISCOUNTS, WHICH IS ABOUT 50,000.
HOW MUCH DOES EACH TRUCK COST? SO THERE ARE ABOUT 7 87 90 NOW.
AND UH, WE HAD TALKED ABOUT WHEN I FIRST, UM, CAME TO THE CITY FOUR YEARS AGO, THE TRUCKS THAT WE HAVE OUT THERE THAT YOU'VE SEEN, NOT ENGINE TWO, THE ONE THAT WE JUST GOT, THE OTHERS, UM, WELL WE PURCHASED ENGINE TWO WAS 699,000.
THE UM, SAME TRUCK THAT WAS THERE, THE OTHER TRUCKS WE HAD BOUGHT THAT TRUCK, IT WOULD'VE BEEN ABOUT EIGHT 50 AND THAT WAS THREE YEARS AGO.
SO THAT TRUCK WOULD BE A MILLION DOLLARS NOW.
SO WE, WE'VE SCALED BACK A LITTLE BIT.
WE'VE GOT A LITTLE BIT SMALLER TRUCK.
UM, AND SO THAT'S KIND OF, UM, PUT US IN A LITTLE BIT BETTER POSITION TO CONTINUE.
OUR PURCHASE LOAN ESCALATION IS GOING TO CONTINUE.
HOW MANY ARE WE WANTING TO GET? SO WE'RE GONNA DO TWO NOW.
UM, WE, WE PURCHASED ENGINE TWO, WE GOT THREE, SIX, AND ONE.
YEAH, SO WE, YEAH, SO WE DID ENGINE TWO.
THAT'S THE ONE THAT, THAT WE RECEIVED EARLIER THIS YEAR.
WE ORDERED ENGINE THREE, THAT'S FOR STATION THREE AND WE JUST DID THAT.
IT TAKES ABOUT, UH, 13 TO 16 MONTHS TO GET IT AFTER WE ORDER IT.
AND THEN, SO NOW WE'RE GONNA ORDER ENGINE ONE AND ENGINE SIX.
SO WE'RE LOOKING TO PAY FOR THREE OR WE'RE LOOKING TO PAY FOR TWO.
WE ALREADY HAVE THE, THE MONEY AND FIRE CONTROL.
WE JUST MADE THE SECOND PAYMENT, WE JUST SPLIT THE PAYMENTS ON ENGINE THREE.
SO MOVING FORWARD, WE'RE GONNA BUY TWO AND WE'RE GONNA PAY FOR 'EM UPFRONT, GET ALL THE DISCOUNTS AND BEAT THE COST INCREASES.
AND THE TOTAL COST FOR THAT IS IS 1.5, 1.5, 1.57.
THIS, THIS WILL SAVE US TENS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR CHIEF? I WOULD JUST SAY, I MEAN I LIKE SAVING, I LIKE SAVING MONEY, BUT I GUESS WE JUST HAVE TO MAKE SURE WE KEEP THIS OUT IN FRONT OF US.
'CAUSE THAT MEANS ALL OF THESE ARE GONNA REACH END INTO LIFE AROUND THE SAME, SAME TIME AS WELL.
AND SO WE NEED TO KEEP THAT IN MIND OVER A FEW YEARS DOWN THE FRONT AND MONEY FROM THE GENERAL FUND.
SO WE'RE COMMITTING OUR CONTROL PHONE THAT NOW WE GOTTA MAKE SURE THAT GET PAID BACK.
SO YEAH, BECAUSE AS THE CITY WORKS, IT'S KIND.
YEAH, WELL WE'LL JUST EXTEND THIS PAYMENT OUT LONGER AND WE'LL SPEND THIS MONEY ELSEWHERE.
OUR JUST TAKES YOU TO DO THE FIRE.
I UNDERSTAND THE INTENTIONS, BUT YOU DEAL WITH INTENTIONS ALL DAY LONG.
YEAH, BUT WE WILL NOT DO THAT.
VICTOR'S NOT IN HERE, BUT THE, THE UNDERSTANDING OF THE FIRE, WE'VE LOOKED OUT AT FIRE CONTROL AND THE FUNDING MOVING FORWARD AND WE'RE IN GOOD SHAPE AND WE'RE EVEN VERY CONSERVATIVE IN OUR NUMBERS.
ALSO, WE HAVE A DEBT PAYMENT FROM THE TRAINING FIELD THAT
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WILL END IN ABOUT SIX OR SEVEN YEARS.AND SO THAT'S GONNA FREE UP A LOT MORE.
BUT WE'VE LOOKED AT ALL THE WAY OUT LIKE 10 TO 12 YEARS WE CHART.