Oct 19, 2021 Planning and Zoning Commission

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WE'RE NOT DOING ZOOM.

WE'RE NOT, OKAY.

SO WE'RE, WE'RE NO LONGER DOING THE ZOOM.

YOU'RE GOOD TO GO WHENEVER YOU'RE READY.

OKAY.

WELCOME EVERYONE TO THE TUESDAY, OCTOBER 19TH PLANNING AND ZONING MEETING.

UH, IT IS

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NAY, IF YOU WOULD, WOULD YOU CALL RO SPENCER CARNES? HERE.

JEFF WALTERS.

HERE.

AUGUSTINE LAREDO.

HERE.

RICK CARLOS? HERE.

DONNA WINFREY? HERE.

TRACY WHEELER.

HERE.

STANLEY LOO.

HERE.

HELEN BARRETT.

TIMS HERE.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU NONE.

UH, OUR FIRST ORDER OF

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MOVE TO APPROVE.

SECOND.

HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? ALL IN FAVOR, FAVOR.

PLEASE INDICATE BY SAYING AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

THOSE OPPOSED LIKE SIGN.

MOTION CARRIES.

UH, THREE

[a. Consider a request for a subdivision variance to allow reduced frontage for two lots on an improved public right-of-way for approximately 12.84 acres located at 1909 East Archer Road, Harris County, Texas.]

CONSIDER REQUEST FOR SUBDIVISION VARIANCE TO ALLOW REDUCED FRONTAGE FOR TWO LOTS ON AN IMPROVED PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY FOR APPROXIMATELY 12.84 ACRES.

LOCATED AT 1909 EAST ARCHER ROAD, HARRIS COUNTY.

YVONNE.

GOOD EVENING, CHAIRMAN.

COMMISSIONERS.

UH, MY NAME IS YVONNE BRISCOE.

I AM THE PLANNER TWO WITH THE CITY OF BAYTOWN.

THIS REQUEST IS FOR A SUBDIVISION SUBDIVISION VARIANCE TO ALLOW FOR REDUCED FRONTAGE FOR TWO LOTS.

UM, THIS PROPERTY IS IN THE ETJ OF THE CITY, UM, JUST NORTH OF EAST ARCHER.

AND WHAT THEY'RE REQUESTING IS TWO DIFFERENT FLAGS FOR ONE BEING 20 FEET, THE OTHER ONE BEING 24 FEET, AND THEN THE THIRD LOT WOULD HAVE THE REQUIRED FRONTAGE.

DO YOU HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS FOR ME? ANYONE HAVE QUESTIONS FOR YVONNE? WHAT YOUR PLEASURE.

COMMISSIONERS? YES.

I MOVE TO APPROVE.

SECOND.

OH, I, MS. SIMS, HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE INDICATE BY SAYING AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

THOSE OPPOSED LIKE, SIGN.

MOTION CARRIES.

CONSIDER A

[b. Consider a request for a subdivision variance to substitute frontage on a recorded access easement for the required frontage on an improved public right-of-way for approximately 2.5 acres located at 519 Elena Lane, Harris County, Texas.]

LOCATED AT FIVE 19.

ELENA LANE, HARRIS COUNTY, TEXAS? YES.

HELLO.

SO WHAT THIS REQUEST IS, IS THIS IS ALSO IN THE ETJ.

THIS IS NORTH OF EAST WALLACE HILL ROAD AND SOUTH OF EAST HOUSTON STREET.

AND WHAT THE REQUEST IS, IS TO HAVE TWO LOTS THAT DO NOT HAVE FRONTAGE, BUT WILL ACTUALLY GAIN ACCESS OFF OF ELENA LANE, WHICH IS ACTUALLY A PRIVATE ACCESS EASEMENT.

AND SO IT'S THE TWO LOTS IN THE BACK THAT WOULD NOT HAVE THE REQUIRED FRONTAGE.

THE TWO LOTS, THE ONE INCLUDING ELENA LANE AND THE ONE IN THE FRONT.

THOSE WILL HAVE THE REQUIRED FRONTAGE.

DO YOU HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS FOR ME? ANYBODY HAVE QUESTIONS? DO YOU HEAR A MOTION? I MOVE.

SECOND.

HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? ALL IN FAVOR PLEASE INDICATE BY SAYING AYE.

THOSE OPPOSED LIKE SIGNED.

MOTION CARRIES.

WE HAVE SEVERAL PUBLIC HEARINGS TONIGHT, THEREFORE I WILL READ THE FOLLOWING ON ONE TIME AND IT APPLIES TO ALL PUBLIC HEARINGS.

PLEASE BE MINDFUL THAT EACH SPEAKER IS LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES FOR THEIR COMMENTS.

PLEASE BE CONCISE AND SPECIFIC.

THE PUBLIC HEARINGS ARE BEING HELD FOR THE PURPOSE OF GIVING ALL INTERESTED PERSONS THE RIGHT TO SPEAK AND BE HEARD.

EVERYONE DESIRING TO SPEAK AT TODAY'S HEARING SHOULD HAVE SIGNED THE APPROPRIATE LIST IN THE FOYER AS THE LIST WILL PROVIDE THE SPEAKING ORDER FOR THE HEARING.

EACH SPEAKER SHALL GIVE HIS OR HER NAME AND ADDRESS IN ORDER TO PROVIDE A PROPER RECORD FOR THIS OF THIS HEARING.

THE RULES ALLOW EACH SPEAKER THREE MINUTES TO PRESENT INFORMATION.

HOWEVER, I ENCOURAGE EVERYONE TO BE AS BRIEF AND TO THE POINT AS POSSIBLE.

IF

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IF ANYONE HAS ANY QUESTIONS, PLEASE DIRECT THEM TO ME AND I'LL TRY TO HAVE THEM ANSWERED.

UH, FOR A

[a. Conduct the second public hearing concerning a request to amend the official zoning map to rezone approximately 5.46 acres generally located south of Tompkins Drive and west of North SH 146 from General Commercial (GC) to Medium Density Mixed Residential (MF1) Zoning District.]

FROM GENERAL COMMERCIAL TO MEDIUM DENSITY MIXED RESIDENTIAL MF ONE ZONING DISTRICT, THIS REQUEST IS TO REZONE APPROXIMATELY 5.46 ACRES FROM GENERAL COMMERCIAL TO MULTIFAMILY ONE.

THIS IS WEST OF 1 46 SOUTH OF TOMPKINS DRIVE.

IT IS GENERALLY CONSISTENT WITH THE FLUKE BEING COMMERCIAL CORRIDOR ALONG 1 46 AND THEN LOW TO MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL BEHIND THAT.

UM, AND THEN THIS IS WHAT THE ZONING WOULD LOOK LIKE, UM, IF THIS WERE TO BE APPROVED BY COUNSEL.

UM, THIS IS THE PROPOSED SITE PLAN THAT Y'ALL SAW LAST MONTH.

THEY ARE CURRENTLY PROPOSING 39 SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, WHICH IS APPROXIMATELY EIGHT UNITS PER ACRE.

UM, MF ONE ZONING WOULD ALLOW A DENSITY OF UP TO 15 UNITS PER ACRE.

UM, THIS IS A TABLE THAT WE HAVE INCLUDED THAT SHOWS GENERAL COMMERCIAL, WHICH IS ACTUALLY WHAT IS ALLOWED CURRENTLY BY ZONE BY THE ZONING DISTRICT THAT IT IS NOW COMPARED TO WHAT IT WOULD BE WITH THE MEDIUM DENSITY MIXED RESIDENTIAL.

UM, I DID WANT TO JUST MAKE SURE THAT Y'ALL ARE AWARE I GAVE Y'ALL ADDITIONAL, UM, BAYTOWN ENGAGE COMMENTS AT YOUR .

THINGS THAT WERE SUBMITTED AFTER THURSDAY OF LAST WEEK.

THOSE WILL BE PROVIDED TO COUNSEL AS WELL, UM, ON THEIR AGENDA.

DO Y'ALL HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS FOR ME? ANYONE HAVE QUESTIONS FOR VAR? OKAY.

THE FIRST NAME ON OUR LIST THIS EVENING IS BO COX.

YES, SIR.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONERS.

MY NAME IS BO COX.

I REPRESENT THE DEVELOPER.

AS YOU SEE, THESE ARE, UH, LEMME TELL YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE PROJECT.

IT'S SINGLE FAMILY HOMES.

IT'S, UH, THEY'RE ON THEIR OWN LOTS.

UH, THE LOTS HAVE YARDS.

UH, ALL OF THE WATER FLOWS FROM THE BACK OF THE LOTS TO THE FRONT OF THE STREET AND THEN FROM THE STREET INTO THE DETENTION FACILITY AS REQUIRED BY THE CITY OF BAYTOWN.

UH, WE HOPE TO HAVE THIS AS A GATED COMMUNITY.

AS YOU SEE, IT ALSO HAS A PARK THERE AS WELL.

THIS PROJECT SERVES TWO, TWO PRIMARY MARKETS.

THE FIRST MARKET IS, UH, YOUNG FAMILIES WITH CHILDREN.

THEY DON'T WANNA RAISE THEIR CHILDREN IN APARTMENT COMPLEX.

THEY'D RATHER RAISE THEIR CHILDREN IN, IN HOMES, AND YET THEY CAN'T YET AFFORD A HOME.

SO THEY NEED A RENTAL PROPERTY FOR SEVERAL YEARS SO THAT THEY CAN BUILD ENOUGH EQUITY TO, TO PURCHASE A HOME.

UH, THE SECOND PRIMARY MARKET, THESE ARE ALL, MOST OF THESE ARE THREE BEDROOM, TWO BATH, TWO CAR GARAGES.

THE SECOND MARKET IS THE SENIOR MARKET.

THERE ARE MANY SENIORS THAT ARE TO THE AGE WHERE THEY'VE SOLD THEIR HOMES.

THEY NO LONGER WANT A HOME TO, TO HAVE TO MAINTAIN, NO, NO LONGER WANT A YARD TO HAVE TO MAINTAIN, BUT THEY WANNA RENT A HOME.

THEY'D RATHER LIVE IN A HOME LIKE A THREE BEDROOM HOME SO THEY CAN HAVE THEIR GRANDKIDS OVER, THEIR FRIENDS OVER, SO ON AND SO FORTH.

BOTH THESE, NEITHER OF THESE BACK TO THE, UH, SINGLE FAMILY, THE HOMES, UH, WITH THE FAMILIES PRIMARILY SINCE, UH, UH, CHILD, UH, CARE THESE DAYS ARE SO EXPENSIVE.

NORMALLY, ONE OF THE, THE, UH, PARENTS STAY AT HOME AND RAISE THE CHILDREN, AND ONE OF THE PARENTS WORKS.

MANY TIMES THAT PARENT IS, IS A SHIFT WORKER.

SO THE PERCEIVED PERCEPTION OF OF TRAFFIC IS NEGATED BY THAT POTENTIAL.

ALSO, THE SENIORS DON'T TRAVEL MUCH EITHER.

THEY MAY GET OUT ONCE OR TWICE A WEEK TO GO TO THE GROCERY STORE OR TO LUNCH OR TO DINNER OR TO CHURCH ON SUNDAYS, BUT THEY DON'T CREATE A LOT OF, A LOT OF TRAFFIC EITHER.

I KNOW THERE WAS A QUESTION ABOUT, UH, A PHASE ONE.

WE HAVE A PHASE ONE INSPECTION.

UH, THERE WERE TWO WELLS.

THE PHASE ONE INSPECTION, UH, COVERS NINE ACRES, WHICH WE DON'T HAVE THE, UH, THING BACK UP THERE, BUT IT INCLUDES THIS FIVE ACRES INCLUDES THE TWO ACRES THAT THE WALGREENS STORE IS ON, UH, THE ONE ACRE NEXT TO THE WALGREENS.

AND, UH, THE CORNER PIECE, WHICH IS ACTUALLY OWNED BY, UH, AM BANK.

AS YOU CAN SEE THERE, THE CORNER PIECE IS OWNED BY AM BANK.

THERE WERE TWO WELLS ON THE PROPERTY.

NEITHER OF THE WELLS WERE ON THIS PARTICULAR FIVE ACRES.

THEY

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AND THEN THE OTHER PIECE NEXT TO THE WALGREENS, THOSE WERE BOTH PLUGGED AND ABANDONED.

ONE IN 1992 AND ONE IN 1993, THEY WERE PLUGGED AND ABANDONED ACCORDING TO THE, UH, RAILROAD COMMISSION OF TEXAS.

BOTH OF 'EM WERE APPROVED AS THEY WERE PLUGGED.

THERE WAS A TANK BATTERY ACTUALLY ON THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY FOR THOSE TWO WELLS.

AND LEMME READ YOU WHAT THE, UH, UH, PHASE ONE SAYS ABOUT THE, THE, UH, UH, STORAGE TANKS IN THE AREAS WHERE THE STORAGE TANKS WERE LOCATED.

SOME SURFACE CON CONTAMINATION HAS OCCURRED.

NO CONCENTRATIONS ABOVE THOSE CONCENTRATIONS WITH WHICH THE TEXAS RAILROAD COMMISSION REQUIRES IS TO BE RE UH, RE REMEDIATED.

WERE FOUND, HOWEVER, TO FURTHER ENSURE THAT THE AREA OF THE OIL PRODUCTION OPERATIONS WERE REMEDIATED.

SOIL AND DEBRIS REMOVAL WAS INITIATED ALONG WITH THE APPLICATION OF COMMERCIAL FERTILIZER TO ENHANCE BIOMEDICAL ME MEDIATION OF RESIDENTIAL HYDROCARBONS.

THAT WAS 26 YEARS AGO WHEN THAT WAS REMOVED.

AND THE REMEDIATION WORK DONE WAS 26 YEARS AGO.

AND AGAIN, BOTH OF THOSE WELLS WERE ABANDONED IN 1991, IN 1992 AND ONE IN 1993.

SO, UH, ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS FOR ME? ANYONE HAVE QUESTIONS FOR MR. COX? YEAH, WELL, ANY OF THESE STRUCTURES BE TWO STORY, UH, SOME WILL BE TWO STORY, SOME WILL BE SINGLE STORY.

YES, SIR.

ANYONE ELSE? UH, I WILL POINT OUT THAT IF I MAY, IT'S, IT'S CURRENTLY ZONE ZONE GENERAL COMMERCIAL.

THE CITY OF BAYTOWN HAS ISSUED US A PERMIT TO BUILD STORAGE UNITS.

PHASE ONE INCLUDES TWO BUILDINGS, TWO STORY BUILD, TWO, TWO STORY BUILDINGS.

PHASE TWO WOULD BE FOR BOAT AND RV STORAGE.

AND SO THEY ISSUED THAT PERMIT.

WE ACTUALLY BROKE GROUND ON THAT AND THEN COVID CAME ALONG.

SO WE, WE TANKED THAT PROJECT FOR NOW THAT MARKET HAS RECOVERED.

AND SO WE CAN STILL PROBABLY GET THAT, UH, PERMIT REISSUED FOR US TO BUILD THAT.

THE OTHER THING WE'RE LOOKING AT IN GENERAL COMMERCIAL IS WHAT'S KNOWN AS FLEX SPACE, WHICH IS STORAGE BUILDINGS THAT NORMALLY HAVE ABOUT A THOUSAND SQUARE FEET OF, OF OFFICE IN THE FRONT, AND THEN THEY HAVE STORAGE IN THE BACK.

THOSE BUILDINGS CAN BUILD, BE BUILT ACCORDING TO THE CITY UP TO 30 FEET TALL.

AND SO THOSE PRIMARILY SERVE THE, UH, PETROCHEMICAL, UH, COMPANIES AROUND.

AND SO MANY OF THOSE WOULD BE MAYBE EVEN 24 HOUR SERVICE WHERE THEY WOULD BE RUNNING SUPPLIES IN AND OUT, SO ON AND SO FORTH.

AND TRUCKS IN AND OUT AS WELL.

WE'VE BEEN APPROACHED BY A DAYCARE CENTER, UH, WHICH WE'D LIKE TO PUT A DAYCARE CENTER ON THERE.

THEY ONLY NEED ABOUT TWO ACRES, SO THAT WOULD LEAVE ABOUT THREE ACRES THAT WE'VE IFIED A SOMETHING ELSE TO GO THERE.

I THINK GENERAL COMMERCIAL ALSO ALLOWS, UH, HOTELS AS WELL.

SO, UH, BUT I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS IF YOU HAVE ANY OTHER FURTHER QUESTIONS.

DOES ANYONE ELSE HAVE QUESTIONS? SO IT IS CURRENTLY GENERAL COMMERCIAL, IS THAT CORRECT? MR. CURRENTLY GENERAL COMMERCIAL.

THANK YOU.

YES.

SO THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS SHARON.

JASON.

HELLO.

THANK YOU.

MY NAME IS SHARON JASON, MY MOM LIVES, MY MOM LIVES AT 39 0 9 CANTERBURY, AND THIS IS THE NEIGHBORHOOD I GREW UP IN.

MY MOM IS UNABLE TO COME TONIGHT BECAUSE SHE TAKES CARE OF MY DAD, WHO IS A VETERAN WITH PARKINSON'S DISEASE.

MY 75-YEAR-OLD PARENTS WILL BE IMPACTED BY THIS DEVELOPMENT BECAUSE THEY LIVE AT 39 0 9 CANTERBURY AND WILL HAVE THIS DEVELOPMENT LITERALLY IN THEIR BACKYARD.

IT IS RIGHT BEHIND THEIR FENCE.

THEY'RE THE SECOND HOUSE ON CANTERBURY THAT BACKS UP TO THIS.

THEY, ALONG WITH THE ENTIRE NEIGHBORHOOD, ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THE NOISE, THE TRAFFIC, THE WATER PRESSURE, THE INVASION OF PRIVACY INTO BACKYARDS ON THE FENCE LINE, AND THOSE HOMES ACROSS FOR THE STREET, ACROSS THE STREET.

AND THE DEVALUING PROPERTY VALUE AMONG MANY THINGS, THE LACK OF A TRAFFIC LIGHT AT TOMPKINS AND HIGHWAY 1 46 IS ALREADY AN ISSUE.

AND ADDING THESE TOWN HOMES WILL INCREASE TRAFFIC TREMENDOUSLY IF THE CITY MOVES FORWARD WITH THEIR ADDITION.

IF THE CITY KAYAK PARK, WHICH WILL BE DIRECTLY ACROSS TOMPKINS FROM THIS DEVELOPMENT, THAT WILL BE EVEN MORE TRAFFIC AND NOISE.

THIS HAS BEEN A DESIRABLE NEIGHBORHOOD COMMUNITY IN ITS 50 YEAR HISTORY.

AND WHILE A SINGLE FAMILY DWELLING AREA MAY SATISFY THE BAYTOWN 2025 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, IT WILL DEVALUE ALL THE PROPERTIES IN THIS WONDERFUL NEIGHBORHOOD, INCREASE THE VERY HAPPY, HEAVY TRAFFIC ALREADY COMING THROUGH, AND CONTINUE TO IMPACT THE SAFETY OF OUR CHILDREN AND ADULTS WALKING AND BIKING IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

SINCE THE BAYTOWN POLICE DEPARTMENT HAS BEEN OUT RIDING TICKETS AND WARNINGS FOR ALL THE CARS THAT RUN THE STOP SIGNS ALREADY ON TOMPKINS, I HAVE WITNESSED THAT THIS IS, THAT IT'S NOT EVEN THREE MINUTES THAT THEY PULL BACK IN FRONT OF MY MOM'S HOUSE FROM A TRAFFIC STOP.

THEY

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THIS HAPPENS REPEATEDLY WHEN THEY'RE ON PATROL AND I'M SO HAPPY THEY'RE OUT THERE FOR OUR, OUR SAFETY.

ON FRIDAY, OCTOBER 15TH, I REQUESTED THROUGH OPEN PUBLIC RECORDS REQUEST THE NUMBER OF TRAFFIC STOPS CONDUCTED OFF TOMPKINS ROAD BETWEEN SEPTEMBER 24TH UNTIL TODAY.

BUT THE REQUEST HAS NOT YET BEEN RESPONDED TO AS THEY ANSWER ALL REQUESTS IN THE ORDER THEY HAVE RECEIVED.

I FEEL THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT INFORMATION TO INCLUDE IN THE CONSIDERATION OF THIS DEVELOPMENT PROJECT FOR BOTH THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMITTEE AND THE CITY COUNCIL.

UNFORTUNATELY, I WAS UNABLE TO OBTAIN THESE NUMBERS PRIOR TO TODAY'S MEETING.

I SUPPORT THE BAYTOWN 2025 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IN PLACING THESE DEVELOPMENTS IN AREAS THAT ARE LARGER WITHOUT THE KINDS OF TRAFFIC THAT IS ALREADY IN KINGS BEND, NOT DIRECTING, NOT DIRECTLY IMPACTING OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS AND HOMEOWNERS.

THE NOISE LEVEL IS ALREADY SO LOUD WITH JUST THE TRAFFIC ON HIGHWAY 1 46.

HAVING THIS DEVELOPMENT DIRECTLY BEHIND HER HOUSE WILL INCREASE THE NOISE LEVEL SIGNIFICANTLY VIA DIRECT INVASION OF HER PRIVACY BLOCK.

HER VIEW FROM HER BACKYARD IMPACT THE AMOUNT OF SUNLIGHT TO HER YARD, WHICH AFFECTS HER GRASS AND TREES DEVALUE HER HOME VALUE AND MAKE HER PROPERTY UNDESIRABLE FOR FUTURE BUYERS.

THE ENTIRE NEIGHBORHOOD DOES NOT WANT THIS BILL.

PLEASE RECONSIDER, PLEASE DO NOT APPROVE THIS AND SQUASH IT BEFORE IT EVEN GOES TO THE CITY COUNCIL ON NOVEMBER 11TH.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

DO Y'ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME? NO, MA'AM.

YES.

YES, SIR.

WOULD YOUR PARENTS PREFER TO HAVE A STORAGE, UH, FACILITY BEHIND THE HOUSE OR A DAYCARE CENTER OR A FLEX SPACE? I'M NOT SURE.

I GUESS THEY WOULD ADDRESS EACH ITEM AS IT WAS PRESENTED.

UM, THE WAY THE DRAWING WAS ON ONE OF THE DRAWINGS SHE SHOWED THE, I THINK IT'S ONLY A 10 FOOT EASEMENT THAT'S GONNA BE BETWEEN HER HOUSE AND THE FENCE OF THE, THE, UH, HOMES THAT ARE BEING BUILT.

JUST, AND THAT IS JUST, I MEAN, RIGHT THERE.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU LINDA SCHRADER.

GOOD AFTERNOON.

GOOD AFTERNOON.

I'M NOT REALLY A PUBLIC SPEAKER, BUT, UH, EVERYTHING THAT I HAVE READ, NEIGHBORS TALKING AND THIS AND THAT, I HOPE IT DOESN'T GO THROUGH.

I HOPE IT DOESN'T CHANGE.

I I THINK THAT IT WAS ORIGINALLY SUPPOSED TO BE ONE WAY, AND THAT'S THE WAY IT NEEDS TO BE.

THIS NEIGHBORHOOD IS 50 YEARS OLD.

I CAN'T SEE HOW MOVING THIS MANY MORE PEOPLE IN THERE ARE GONNA HELP WITH ANY OF THE SEWAGE PROBLEMS THAT WE HAVE ALREADY.

THE TRAFFIC PROBLEMS. I AGREE WITH WHAT THE PREVIOUS SPEAKER JUST SAID.

IT'S, YOU KNOW, I LIVE IN A NICE, I'M A SENIOR CITIZEN.

I DON'T WANT TO MOVE INTO A LITTLE TWO BEDROOM.

I LIKE THE YARD THAT I HAVE, YOU KNOW, I, WE TAKE CARE OF IT AND STUFF LIKE THAT, BUT I JUST DON'T AGREE WITH IT.

IT'S JUST NOT RIGHT TO PUT THAT MUCH STRESS ON THE I AGREE.

THE TRAFFIC'S HORRIBLE.

THE SEWAGE PROBLEMS ARE HORRIBLE.

THERE'S ALL KINDS OF STUFF GOING ON IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND WE DON'T NEED MORE OF IT.

I, I JUST WANTED TO SPEAK A LITTLE PIECE.

I KNOW I DON'T HAVE MONEY BEHIND ME LIKE SOME PEOPLE DO THAT GETS THINGS DONE, YOU KNOW, BUT THESE ARE A LOT OF NICE FAMILIES THAT LIVE IN THIS AND THEY DON'T WANNA SEE IT EITHER.

AND NEITHER DO I.

IT TOOK A LOT FOR ME TO COME UP HERE AND EVEN SAY THAT, SAY THAT, BUT ANYWAY, I JUST DON'T AGREE WITH IT.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

JERRY GAINOR, I'M, I'M THE ENGINEERING CONSULTANT FOR, FOR BO ON HIS PROJECT.

AND SO I'M JUST HERE.

IF THERE ARE ANY ENGINEERING QUESTIONS THAT YOU'D LIKE TO ASK, YOU'LL BE THROUGH.

BE HERE UNTIL WE'RE PAST THIS ON YES, .

THANK YOU, JERRY.

THANK YOU.

CAN I ASK A QUESTION THAT WORK FOR PRINT? DID YOU SIGN UP TO SPEAK? IF YOU'RE NOT SIGNED UP TO SPEAK? I CAN'T ASK A QUESTION.

HE SAID, DID ANYBODY HAVE A QUESTION? NONE THE COUNSEL.

YOU, YOU CAN TALK TO, UH, MR. GAINOR OFFLINE IF YOU WANT, BUT DURING THE MEETING YOU HAVE TO BE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK.

SO THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

JERRY.

PRESTON HILL.

MY NAME IS PRESTON HILL.

I LIVE AT, UH, LOT ONE ON THIS MAP, WHICH IS 39 11

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IT WAS, IT'S BEEN PITCHED AS, UH, RENTAL PROPERTIES FOR FAMILIES AND ELDERLY PEOPLE.

RENTAL PROPERTIES GO TO ANYBODY, ANYBODY THAT CAN PASS THE MILD CREDIT CHECK.

UM, I'VE GONE AROUND MY NEIGHBORHOOD JUST TO SEE WHO ELSE FELT THE SAME WAY ABOUT ME.

AND I'VE GOT 44 SIGNATURES ON THREE SEPARATE PAGES HERE OF PEOPLE WHO DISA WHO AGREE WITH ME TO SAY THIS IS NOT THE RIGHT THING FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

UH, THEIR CONCERNS, UH, RANGE FOR ANYTHING FROM DEVALUATION OF PROPERTY INVASION OR PRIVACY THEFT CRIME, AND ANY NOISE THAT COMES FROM THIS, UH, TRAFFIC.

SO WE HAD A LITTLE BOY ACROSS THE STREET FROM ME, ALMOST GOT RAN OVER TWO DAYS AFTER OUR LAST MEETING.

THEY WENT TO THE TRAFFIC COMMITTEE, KEPT THE COMMITTEE, SENT THE POLICE OFFICERS OUT THERE, AND ME BEING MY BASHFUL SHELF, I WALKED OVER AND I TALKED TALKING TO THE POLICE OFFICERS.

THEY WROTE 60 TICKETS IN A MATTER OF FOUR HOURS FOR RUNNING THE STOP SIGN.

I CAN SIT IN MY FRONT, MY, MY KITCHEN AND I CAN WATCH PEOPLE RUN THE STOP SIGN.

A POLICE OFFICER WILL PULL SOMEBODY OVER IN THE MATTER OF THE POLICE OFFICER PULLING SOMEBODY OVER.

TWO TO THREE MORE PEOPLE WILL RUN THAT SAME STOP SIGN OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN.

UM, AS I MOVED FARTHER INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD, WHICH MIND YOU, I ONLY SIGN OR WENT DOOR TO DOOR FOR TWO AND A HALF HOURS AND GOT 44 SIGNATURES, THAT REPRESENTS 30 TO 35 HOUSEHOLDS AS SOME HUSBANDS AND WIVES BOTH SIGNED.

BUT AS I GOT FARTHER DOWN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AWAY FROM THIS, THE CONCERN TURNED FROM TRAFFIC AND CRIME AND THEFT TO SEWER BACKING UP INTO PEOPLE'S HOMES COMING UP IN THEIR BATHTUBS.

THE UTILITIES IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD ARE 51 YEARS OLD.

THIS NEIGHBORHOOD WAS BUILT IN 1971 AND THEY HAVE NOT BEEN IMPROVED SINCE THEN.

WE HAVE A TWO INCH WATER LINE THAT RUNS THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

WE HAVE CONSISTENTLY LOW PRESSURE, SO ADDING ANY ADDITIONAL STRAIN TO THIS IS NOT GONNA HELP ANY SITUATION.

SO, AND THE BIGGEST CONCERN THAT MANY PEOPLE SEE IS NOT NECESSARILY THIS PLAN, BUT THE POTENTIAL FOR CHANGE.

UM, THERE'S A LOT OF UNCERTAINTY AROUND THIS PLAN.

THIS IS JUST A PROPOSAL.

THIS IS WHAT WE THINK WE MIGHT WANT TO DO.

UM, THIS PROPERTY IS STILL UP FOR SALE.

IF YOU CHANGE THE CODE, THEY CAN ACTUALLY GO IN THERE AND PUT UP TO 15 UNITS PER ACRE THAT WOULD ALLOW 80 UNITS ON THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY.

THAT WOULD'VE TO GO TO APARTMENT STYLE HOMES RIGHT OUTSIDE MY NEIGHBORHOOD.

RIGHT IN MY BACKYARD.

I'D HAVE MULTIPLE FAMILIES LOOKING STRAIGHT IN MY BACKYARD.

I BOUGHT INTO A NEIGHBORHOOD WITH QUARTER ACRE LOTS BECAUSE I WANTED A NEIGHBORHOOD WITH QUARTER LOTS, NOT BECAUSE I WANTED TO BE IN AN APARTMENT COMPLEX.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY.

ANY QUESTIONS? YES, GO AHEAD, MR. HILL.

UH, WOULD YOU PREFER TO SEE A STORAGE SPACE THERE OR ONE OF THE FLEX SPACES OR A DAYCARE CENTER? SO THIS PROPERTY'S BEEN SEVERELY LIMITED BY THE WAY.

IT'S BEEN BLOCKED UP.

UH, IT'S ONLY ACCESS IS RESIDENTIAL.

SO A FLEX SPACE WITH COMMERCIAL TRAFFIC GOING ONTO IT WOULD NOT BE FEASIBLE AS IT'S ONLY ENTRANCE.

AND EXIT IS A RESIDENTIAL ROAD WITH A, I BELIEVE, A 25 TON LIMIT.

UH, IF YOU SEE ON HERE WHERE IT SAYS CALLED 1.15 ACRES ON THE BACK, THAT'S BEEN BROKE OFF FROM THIS PROPERTY AT, AT PERTH'S PLAN.

SO DUMPING COMMERCIAL VEHICLES INTO A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD WITH AN EXTREMELY HARD TURN ONTO 1 46 IS NOT A FEASIBLE PLAN.

I DON'T KNOW OF ANY COMPANY THAT NECESSARILY DESIRES TO TAKE THAT RISK GIVEN INSURANCE AND LIABILITY, UH, PERSONALLY A STORAGE UNIT.

I'M NOT GONNA SPEAK FOR EVERYBODY ON THIS PLAN.

ON THIS PETITION THAT I SIGNED, STORAGE UNIT'S AN AWESOME NEIGHBOR.

THEY SHOW UP, THEY DIG THROUGH A BOX OLD CRAP ONCE EVERY THREE WEEKS.

ONCE EVERY MONTH THEY GO AWAY.

THESE PEOPLE, I GOTTA WOULD DEAL WITH PEOPLE THROWING PARTIES IN MY RIGHT THERE IN MY BACKYARD.

I GOT THREE, TWO AND A HALF OR ONE AND A HALF UNITS PORTER IN MY PROPERTY ALONG WITH A BUNCH PACKED IN.

UM, OTHER PEOPLE DOWN THERE ON THE VERY END LOT SIX HAS FOUR UNITS LOOKING STRAIGHT IN THEIR BACKYARD.

SO THAT'S JUST MY PERSONAL TAKE ON IT.

I'M NOT, I CAN'T SPEAK FOR OTHER PEOPLE TO SIGNED THE PETITION ON THAT.

THANK YOU MS. JOEL.

THANK YOU.

THAT'S CRAZY.

LOOK AT THAT.

YVONNE.

WHERE IS SHE? SHE'S RIGHT.

I CAN'T SEE HER FOR THE .

YVONNE, I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE SEWAGE ISSUE.

YES.

IS THAT SOMETHING THAT THE CITY'S ADDRESSING NOW? DO YOU KNOW, WE WON'T ADDRESS ANY OF THAT UNTIL DEVELOPMENT, BUT THE EXISTING SEWAGE ISSUE, IF THERE'S ALREADY AN ISSUE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

ERWIN, DO YOU HAPPEN TO KNOW IF PUBLIC, IF ENGINEERING'S, I CAN SPEAK TO THAT BASED OFF WHAT WAS MENTIONED LAST WEEK.

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WE'RE, WE'RE GONNA, CAN WE, IF WE CAN LET, UM, STAFF ANSWER THE QUESTION, PLEASE.

YEAH, PLEASE.

HI, I'M IRWIN BURDEN.

UM, I'M WITH THE, UH, DEPARTMENT OF WITHIN HEARING PUBLIC WORKS OR PUBLIC WORKS AND ENGINEERING.

LEMME PUT THAT RIGHT.

UM, WE HAVE A LOT OF REMEDIATION PROJECTS IN THIS AREA.

WE'VE HAD SOME WE'VE COMPLETED AND WE HAVE SOME THAT WE HAVE NOT COMPLETED.

WE DO HAVE SOME FUTURE PHASES THAT SHOULD ADDRESS SOME OF THOSE, UM, OVERFLOWS.

UM, WE DO MONITOR THEM.

WE'RE AWARE OF THEM AND WE'RE WORKING ON THEM.

AND HOW WOULD YOU ASSUME THAT AN ADDITIONAL HOUSING WOULD AFFECT THAT? UM, THE OVERFLOWS ARE PREDOMINANTLY CAUSED BY, UH, RAINFALL BEING ENTERED INTO THE STORM SEW SYSTEM.

AND, UH, A MAJORITY OF THOSE ARE BECAUSE THERE'S OPEN CLEAN OUTS AND THINGS IN YARDS.

SO THE SURCHARGE ISN'T REALLY CAUSED BY TOO MUCH SEWAGE.

IT'S CAUSED BY THE INFLOW OF RAINWATER.

SO WE ARE TRYING TO WORK ON OVERSIZING 'EM, REDUCING SOME OF THE INFLOW.

AND WE ALSO TRY TO GO IN THERE AND INVESTIGATE AND SEE WHERE THAT WATER'S COMING FROM.

SO.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

IT'S A COMBINATION OF A LOT OF THINGS.

THANK YOU.

IS THERE A TIMEFRAME? ANYBODY ELSE REPAIRING THAT BEFORE YOU START A NEW PROJECT? WELL, IF YOU LOOK AT THE CIP, YOU'LL SEE A LARGE TIME .

WE HAVE A LOT OF MONEY GOING INTO THAT REHAB PROGRAM.

SO WE HAVE, I CAN'T TELL YOU WHERE THEY'RE WORKING ON IT THIS YEAR.

UM, WE JUST GOT THE BUDGET ADOPTED AND I HAVEN'T HAD TIME TO TALK TO UH, TIM ABOUT THAT.

PARTIALLY HE WAS OUT FOR DAY OR SO, BUT , UM, UM, I CAN TALK TO HIM, UM, PROBABLY TOMORROW.

BUT, UM, TO SEE WHAT TIMING HE HAS, WE WILL GET THE CONTRACT SET UP AND THEY HAVE AN ANNUAL CONTRACT WHERE THEY DO IT EVERY YEAR.

SO THIS IS THE TIME WE DO THE ANNUAL CONTRACTS.

, THE, THE SEWAGE SYSTEM THAT YOU HAVE NOW, WOULD IT NEED TO BE ENLARGED IF THIS FACILITY WAS BUILT? OR CAN IT HANDLE THE UNDERSTANDING I HAVE IS THE SEWAGE SYSTEM'S LARGE ENOUGH, IT'S GOT A CHOKE POINT THAT'S, UH, AT A MANHOLE, UH, ABOUT TWO BLOCKS AWAY.

AND THAT'S WHAT TIM KIND OF TALKED TO ME ABOUT, UH, ABOUT A WHATEVER A COUPLE WEEKS AGO WHEN WE HAD THIS MEETING.

I WENT AND TALKED TO HIM AND THAT'S WHERE THE CHOKE POINT IS AND WE'RE WORKING ON THAT.

WHICH WAY DOES THE, THE, DOES IT FLOW TO TOWARDS 1 46? YES.

OR DOES IT, SO THAT'S THE WAY I UNDERSTAND THIS, COLLECTS PARTS OF IT COLLECT AND GO DOWN.

SO THIS PROJECT COULD FEASIBLY BACK UP EVEN MORE PROPERTIES IN THAT AREA.

UM, THE CHOKE POINT HE DESCRIBED TO ME IS IT'S ONE MAN HOLE.

SO IT'S DOWNSTREAM.

IT WAS OKAY.

IT WAS UPSTREAM.

IT IS THE CHOKE POINT THAT MAY HOLD.

SO THAT'S THE WAY I UNDERSTOOD IT.

BUT IT COULD CAUSE MORE BACKUPS, UH, IN A RAIN.

YEAH.

NOT NECESSARILY EVERY DAY.

WELL, AVERAGE DAILY POINTS IS BAD .

WELL, I KNOW, BUT WHAT I'M GETTING AT A STATE REQUIREMENTS IS IT'S FOUR TIMES AVERAGE DAILY FLOW.

SO AVERAGE DAILY, IF YOU HAVE PLENTY OF CAPACITY, IT'S THE RAIN THAT FALLS WHEN IT REALLY GETS INTO THE ISSUES.

SO THANK YOU.

SO UN UNDERSTAND TOO THAT WHEN THIS A PROJECT SUCH AS THIS WOULD GET TO THE DEVELOPMENT STAGE OF THINGS, THAT'S WHEN WE WOULD TACKLE SOME OF THOSE SPECIFIC ISSUES HEAD ON.

AT THIS STAGE IN THE GAME.

WE WOULD BE LOOKING TO PUBLIC WORKS TO JUST CONFIRM THAT A, THE INFRASTRUCTURE EXISTS, AND B, THAT IT WILL HANDLE WHAT IT NEEDS TO HANDLE.

IF THERE NEED TO BE MODIFICATIONS TO THE SYSTEM IN ORDER TO GET IT TO HANDLE THAT, THEN AGAIN, THAT'S SORT OF HANDLED AT A LATER TIME.

AT THIS STAGE, WE'RE LOOKING AT IT AS WE KNOW THAT THE, THE INFRASTRUCTURE IS THERE AND THAT IT'S FUNCTIONAL, WHETHER IT FUNCTIONS TO THE EXTENT THAT WE NEED IT TO FUNCTION.

AGAIN, WE'LL KIND OF HIT THAT AT A LATER DATE.

AGAIN, ERWIN IS, UH, IS AN INTEGRAL PART OF OUR, UM, OF OUR REVIEW PROCESS AS WE GET TO THAT STAGE.

SO JUST SO YOU GUYS HAVE A, AN UNDERSTANDING OF HOW WE LOOK AT THAT, UM, AS IT MOVES FORWARD.

THANK YOU MARTIN.

THANK YOU IRWIN.

UH, PHIL GIBSON.

THANK YOU.

PHIL GIBSON.

36 0 4 TOMPKINS.

UH, FIRST OFF, SINCE OUR LAST MEETING, I WANTED TO THANK Y'ALL FOR ANYTHING YOU HAD TO DO WITH THE POLICE BEING OUT THERE.

'CAUSE I'M RIGHT ACROSS FROM THE STREET FROM ONE OF THE STOP SIGNS.

AND LITERALLY THEY WOULD PULL SOMEBODY OVER, THE COP WOULD COME DOWN AND MAKE A U-TURN.

HE NEVER GOT TO PULL OVER.

HE WAS RIGHT BACK OUT GETTING IN, GETTING ANOTHER STATE.

SO I WANTED TO THANK Y'ALL FOR ANYTHING THAT Y'ALL HAD TO DO WITH THAT.

UM, SOME OF THE ITEMS THAT HAD BEEN STATED WAS THE SEWER, THE WATER AND ALL WOULD BE HANDLED IN THE PERMIT, UH, DEV, UH, STAGE OF THIS DEVELOPMENT THAT DOES NOT ALLOW THE RESIDENTS TO HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY SO ON IT.

I THINK THE ONE BOTTLENECK THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT IS AT TOMPKINS AND QUEENS, GREENWOOD STREET.

THEY ACTUALLY

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WHAT THEY DID WAS TOOK THE TOP OF IT UP, PUT CONCRETE AROUND THERE AND RAISED IT UP ABOUT THAT FAR, STILL OVERFLOWING.

THE SOURCE SYSTEM, UH, FROM WHAT I HAVE FOUND OUT WAS REDONE 10 YEARS AGO.

IT HAS NOT SOLVED THE PROBLEM.

THAT IS A MAJOR PROBLEM WITH THE WATER LINE AND ALL.

IT'S GOING TO IMPACT THE ENTIRE SUBDIVISION FOR THAT.

THE FLOW, FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, DOES GO FROM THIS PROPERTY OVER TO RACCOON WHERE THERE'S A LIFT STATION AT RACCOON.

SO IT GOES DOWN INTO THE SUBDIVISION.

SO IT'S GOING TO IMPACT IT THAT MUCH MORE.

UH, THE TRAFFIC LAST MEETING, MR. GAINOR STATED THAT WAS RIGHT THERE AT 1 46.

EVERYBODY'S GONNA GO OUT ON 1 46.

THAT'S NOT THE CASE.

ANYBODY THAT'S GOING TO GO TO MAIN GARTH I 10 WEST IS GOING TO GO THE OTHER DIRECTION DOWN.

SLANDER OR MAINE, THEY'RE NOT GONNA GO TO 1 46.

IT'S A TERRIBLE INTERSECTION.

THEY'RE GOING TO AVOID IT JUST AS MUCH AS THE REST OF THE, UH, RESIDENTS ARE TRYING TO AVOID IT.

NOW.

UM, MEDIUM DENSITY ALLOWS UP TO 15 UNITS PER ACRE.

THEY'RE PROPOSING EIGHT AT THE END OF THE MEETING.

LAST TIME, UM, LILLIAN STOCKWELL AND MYSELF MET WITH THE DEVELOPER.

HE SHOWED US PLANS FOR THE UNITS.

THE ONES HE SHOWED US WERE THREE BEDROOM, TWO CAR GARAGES.

UM, HAVING THAT THEY COULD PUT UP TO 15.

I ASKED HIM, THERE'S A FOR SALE SIGN THERE.

HE SAID, YES, EVERYTHING'S FOR SALE.

IF YOU AGREE TO THIS IN THIS AREA, ANYBODY CAN COMMIT AND DO 15 UNITS PER ACRE WITHOUT Y'ALL HAVING TO SAY ANOTHER WORD ABOUT IT.

UM, TWO CAR GARAGES COULD ADD A HUNDRED CARS INTO THAT SUBDIVISION.

THE DRAINAGE IMPACT ON THE, UH, PROPERTY RIGHT ADJACENT TO 'EM, RIGHT BEHIND IT GONNA JUMP IN JUST 30 SECONDS.

THE, THEY'RE HAVING TO RAISE THAT PROPERTY UP A MINIMUM OF 24 INCHES, WHICH YOU GOT A HOUSE 10 FEET FROM THAT ADJACENT PROPERTY, THAT MEANS THEIR PROPERTY'S GONNA BE HERE, THEN IT'S GONNA JUMP UP TWO TO THREE FEET, RIGHT IN THAT, IN ORDER FOR IT TO DRAIN BACK THE OTHER WAY.

YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT'S VERY UNFAIR TO THE PEOPLE THAT OWN RIGHT BEHIND IT.

AND IF YOU DO APPROVE THIS, WHICH I HOPE YOU DO NOT, PLEASE PUT SOME KIND OF RESTRICTIONS ON THERE TO ELIMINATE OR STOP THAT FROM ACTUALLY HAPPENING.

IS THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR ME? GO, UH, I'M GONNA ASK YOU THE SAME QUESTION.

SAME QUESTION.

WOULD YOU, UH, PREFER TO SEE A STORAGE SPACE, FLEX FAIAL DRY CLEANERS THERE, CENTER? NO.

I WOULD ACTUALLY LIKE TO SEE A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE THERE IN THAT JUST LIKE THE REST OF THE SUBDIVISION.

THAT'S WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE.

NOT A HIGH DENSITY SUBDIVISION.

AND I GUESS I'LL JUST MAKE A COMMENT TOO.

I MEAN, I'M GUESSING THAT TODAY AS IT STANDS AS A A GENERAL COMMERCIAL, EVEN IF THEY BUILD A STORAGE UNIT THERE, WHICH WE ALREADY HAVE OFFERS TO PUT ON, OR A DAYCARE CENTER, THAT TOO NEEDS TO BE BUILT AT A HIGHER ELEVATION.

CORRECT.

IT, IT WILL, ANYTHING BUILT THERE WILL HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT AS IT GETS THROUGH THAT DEVELOPMENT STAGE, THAT IT IS NOT, UM, CAUSING ANY WATER RUNOFF OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT TO THE OTHER PROPERTIES.

THEY'LL HAVE TO CONTAIN THEIR OWN, UH, DETENTION OR RETENTION ON THE PROPERTY.

SO HOWEVER THAT PANS OUT WITH THE ENGINEERING AND HOW WHATEVER'S BUILT.

SO IT'S, IT'S KIND OF HARD.

YES.

SORT OF.

YEAH.

THANKS MARTIN.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

MICHAEL HUNTER.

MY NAME'S MICHAEL HUNTER.

I LIVE AT 39 0 5 KENTER.

I'M A LOT FOUR ON THAT MAP, WHICH IS GONNA BE BACK AND BACK UP TO ME.

I WOULD WISH FOR LOW DENSITY SINGLE FAMILY ZONING.

SO THIS WOULD MATCH THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND MUCH LESSER IMPACT WHAT'S THERE? I KNOW THIS KNOW THIS IS REACHING FOR THE STARS.

SO FOR THE CURRENT GENERAL COMMERCIAL ZONING IS BETTER THAN WHAT I HAD BEEN.

BE CURRENT GENERAL COMMERCIAL ZONING IS BETTER WHAT THAN HAS BEEN PUT BEFORE.

THE ZONING COMMISSION IS MEDIUM DENSITY MULTIFAMILY HOUSING, WHICH MEANS THERE COULD BE UP TO 75 TO 80 RENTAL UNITS PLACED ON THIS PROPERTY.

THE BEST FIT FOR THOSE.

THIS LOCATION WOULD LOAD DENSITY SINGLE FAMILY BE A BETTER FIT TO COEXIST WITH THE CURRENT DEVELOPMENT AROUND THIS LAND? IF NOT, DUE TO THE FACT THIS LAND HAS NO A, HAS

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MAKING IT LESS DESIRABLE FOR LARGE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT.

I WOULD RATHER TAKE MY CHANCES WITH A SMALL COMMERCIAL BUSINESS INSTEAD OF FOUR TO SIX TWO STORY BOXES LOOKING IN MY BACKYARD.

I'D RATHER TAKE MY CHANCES WITH A COUPLE OF HOURS OF INCREASED TRAFFIC ON TOMPKINS IN THE MORNINGS AND AFTERNOONS INSTEAD OF ALL DAY AND ALL NIGHT.

I WOULD RATHER TAKE MY CHANCES THAT COMMERCIAL PROPERTY DEVELOPMENT WOULD HAVE A BUFFER ZONE AROUND THE, THE PROPERTY OR ACTUAL BUILDINGS TO BETTER HANDLE THE STORM WATER INSTEAD OF MY, MY PROPERTY BECOMING NEW ORLEANS.

BECAUSE THE DEVELOPER WILL HAVE TO RAISE THEIR LAND TWO FEET HIGHER THAN MINE TO MEET ORDINANCES SO THEY CAN PUT THEIR BOXES AS CLOSE AS POSSIBLE TO THE PROPERTY LINE.

I'D RATHER TAKE MY CHANCES WITH A SMALL COMMERCIAL BUSINESS NOT ADDING MORE KIDS TO OUR ALREADY OVERCROWDED SCHOOLS.

MY DAUGHTER IS, UH, GOING TO CBJ.

SHE HAS 35 TO 40 KIDS IN SOME OF HER CLASSES.

SOME OF HER CLASSES ARE IN OUTBUILDINGS WITH 35 TO 40 KIDS.

I WOULD RATHER TAKE MY CHANCES OF SMALL COMMERCIAL BUSINESS WITH A LIMITED NUMBER OF BATHROOMS THAT ARE ALREADY TAXING UTILITY SYSTEMS. CAN THE LIFT PUMP AT RACCOON HANDLES 75 MORE TOILETS DURING A FLOODING EVENT? UM, A LOT.

A LOT OF THE PREVIOUS SPEAKERS HAVE COVERED A LOT OF THE THINGS THAT I'M CONCERNED ABOUT TOO.

THE TRAFFIC AS WELL.

THE FLOODING AS WELL.

MY HOUSE, UH, WHEN WE HAVE A VERY HARD RAIN, THE WATER REACHES THE WEEP HOLES IN THE BRICK AT MY HOUSE.

IF THEY COME IN AND BUILD THAT PROPERTY UP BEHIND ME TWO FEET, MY WATER HAS NOWHERE TO GO.

I'M THE LOWEST, ONE OF THE LOWEST LOTS BACKING UP TO IT.

SO HOW DO I HANDLE MY GROUNDWATER IF I'M BLOCKED IN? DOES THAT MEAN I HAVE TO GO IN AND JACK MY HOUSE UP TO SATISFY THEM? UH, LIKE I SAID, I WOULD RATHER SEE SINGLE FAMILY ONE A HOUSE, QUARTER ACRE, LIKE WHAT WE ALREADY HAVE NOW.

OWNERS, NOT RENTERS.

I WAS A RENTER FOR TWO YEARS AND THE STIGMA THAT GOES WITH RENTAL PROPERTY IS REAL.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU.

ANY QUESTIONS, DAVID? ISAAC, MAY I ASK A QUESTION TO THE CITY IF I MAY? SURE.

WHAT, WHAT IS OUR, UM, HIGHEST DENSITY SINGLE FAMILY ZONING? IS IT SF TWO SINGLE? YES.

IS SF TWO SINGLE FAMILY WOULD BE SF TWO.

SF TWO.

AND THAT, THAT ALLOWS FOR HOW MANY UNITS PER ACRE? NINE.

NINE PER ACRE.

AND UH, MY LAST QUESTION, AND MS. MS. TIM, THE SCHOOL BOARD IS LEAVING, BUT WE HAVE RIGHT WHEN WE, I THINK OF DEVELOPMENTS JUST IN GENERAL AROUND THE CITY, WE CONSIDER THE NUMBER OF CHILDREN IN THE SCHOOL CORRECT.

AND WHETHER IT'S GONNA BE OVERCROWDED OR DO WE WE DO CONSIDER THAT SCHOOL DISTRICT, THE SCHOOL CAPACITY ANYTIME.

ANY, ANYTIME.

IF SOMETHING IS REZONED AS RESIDENTIAL, GOOSE CREEK GETS A LETTER, SAME AS ALL THE RESIDENTS.

SO THEY'RE AWARE THAT THIS IS NO OCCURRING.

NO.

LIKE, UH, IT'S JUST THAT IT'S, YEAH.

AND THEY GET A NOTICE.

AND THAT'S BEEN ONE OF THE ISSUES THAT HAS HAPPENED, ESPECIALLY ON THE NORTH SIDE, IS THAT THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF BUILDUP AND THERE'S NOT ENOUGH SPACE.

AND IF YOU LOOK AT 1 46, WHAT'S HAPPENING AT, I KNOW ONE OF THE GENTLEMEN MENTIONED CBJ CLARK ELEMENTARY UNTIL THEY BUILD THE, I THINK IT'S 17, A LITTLE BIT FURTHER UP NORTH RIGHT NOW.

CLARK ELEMENTARY, THAT WHOLE 1 46 IN THE MORNING AND AROUND TWO 30 TO THREE 30 IS A MESS.

AND THERE'S, IF Y'ALL REMEMBER ABOUT A YEAR AGO, WE HAD THE GALVESTON THAT THE TRAFFIC, SIR.

UM, AND IT WAS MINIMUM A 20 YEAR PLAN FOR THEM TO BE ABLE TO DO ANY KIND OF REAL, TO BE ABLE TO ALLEVIATE THE TRAFFIC SITUATION ON 1 46.

SO ADDING STUFF LIKE THIS IS, IS PUTTING MORE STRAIN ON THE SCHOOLS AND PUTTING MORE STRAIN ON THE INFRASTRUCTURE UP.

1 46.

THANK YOU.

OKAY, MR. ISAAC.

GOOD AFTERNOON, CHAIRMAN WHEELER.

MY NAME IS DAVID ISAAC, LIVE, 6 1 2 WEST TEXAS AVENUE.

UH, I'VE RUN A BUSINESS ON, UH, TEXAS AVENUE AS WELL.

5 0 3.

UH, IT HAS BEEN FLOODED RECENTLY AND, UH, WISH TO SPEAK, UH, IN ABOUT THE GENUINE CONCERN THAT THE FOLKS HAVE HERE ABOUT THEIR SEWAGE SYSTEM IN THAT AREA.

UH, AND I, I ADVISED THAT THE COUNCIL OR, OR THIS COMMISSION WOULD LISTEN TO THE FOLKS OF KINGS BEND.

I WAS HERE JUST A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO WHERE A WOMAN WAS HYSTERICAL ABOUT THE FACT THAT HER CHILD WAS ALMOST HIT.

AND ALTHOUGH MORE WORK WAS DONE IN REGARDS TO, UH, YOU KNOW, THE POLICE PULLING PEOPLE OVER, I STILL DON'T SEE A SLOW CHILDREN SIGN.

UH, NOT THE SLOW, LIKE, UH, MENTALLY, BUT I MEAN LIKE STEP ON THE BRAKES.

AND SO, UH, YOU KNOW, THERE'S BETTER WAYS, THERE'S MORE WAYS WE CAN CONTINUE TO

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NOW, I DID HEAR A GOOD POINT EARLIER ABOUT THE FACT THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO, UH, UH, TELL THESE BUSINESSES HOW TO RUN THEIR BUSINESSES AFTER WE LET THIS CHANGE GO THROUGH.

SO THE THE TRUTH IS, ONCE WE GIVE THEM THE ROPE, UH, TO CHANGE ANYTHING, THEN YOU KNOW, THEY'RE RIGHT.

THEY COULD CHANGE IT INTO A APARTMENT COMPLEX, WHICH SEEMS TO BE ONE OF THEIR WORST FEARS RIGHT NOW.

THE PACKING IN THE SCHOOLS IS A GREAT EXAMPLE BECAUSE THE POLLS IS, IS A SITUATION AS WELL.

MORE PEOPLE, UH, MORE POLLS RIGHT NOW.

PEOPLE FROM WEST SPRING PINES DURING EARLY VOTING FOR 10 DAYS HAS TO DRIVE ALL THE WAY TO CITY HALL, JUST A PLACE OF VOTE.

AND SO THIS IS PART OF THE DEMOCRATIC PROCESS FOR THESE PEOPLE FROM KINGS BEND TO COME HERE AND TALK.

SO I WOULD LIKE TO SEE TRAFFIC IMPROVE.

I WOULD LIKE TO SEE A GENUINE CONCERN FOR THE SEWAGE SYSTEM HERE.

UH, YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN AFFECTED BY IT.

I'VE LOST MY BUSINESS ON TEXAS AVENUE AND THE ARTS DISTRICT BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, ME AND THE OWNER DIDN'T, UH, UH, SITUATE THE, THE PROBLEM THAT SEWAGE WOULD HAVE WITH THIS BIG FREEZE THAT COME ON.

SO WE NEED TO FOCUS ON, ON, ON A, ON ON, ON CRISIS MANAGEMENT IN, IN, IN TERMS OF OUR TAX DOLLARS.

RIGHT NOW, WE POURED A LOT OF MONEY INTO A MALL THAT WE'RE NOT GONNA SEE.

WE'RE WE, WE POURED A LOT OF MONEY INTO DIFFERENT OTHER PROJECTS AND WE NEED TO SEE THE LITTLE MAN HAVE THEIR VOICE TAKEN, UH, ALL THE WAY, YOU KNOW, WANT TO USE A FOOTBALL TERM HERE ALL THE WAY DOWN THE GOALPOST.

BUT, UH, I GUESS THAT'S PRETTY MUCH ALL I HAVE TO SAY.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

ANY QUESTIONS? THANK YOU MR. ISAAC.

THERE BEING NO ONE ELSE TO SIGN.

SIGNED UP TO SPEAK.

WE'LL CLOSE THIS PUBLIC HEARING AND MOVE TO, I'M SORRY, WE HAD ONE ADDITIONAL PUBLIC HEARING, UH, CONDUCT THE FIRST PUBLIC HEARING CONCERNING A REQUEST.

WE HAVE TO DO THE RECOMMENDATION NOW OR THE VOTE.

LET IT, IT'S HOW IT IS ON THE AGENDA IS THE RECOMMENDATION IS NEXT.

OKAY.

CONSIDER MAKING

[b. Consider making a recommendation concerning a proposed amendment to the official zoning map to rezone approximately 5.46 acres generally located south of Tompkins Drive and west of North SH 146 from General Commercial (GC) to Medium Density Mixed Residential (MF1) Zoning District. ]

GENERALLY LOCATED SOUTH OF TOMPKINS DRIVE AND WEST OF NORTH, NORTH STATE HIGHWAY 1 46.

FROM GENERAL COMMERCIAL TO MEDIUM DENSITY MIXED RESIDENTIAL MF ONE ZONING DISTRICT COMMISSIONERS.

WHAT'S YOUR PLEASURE? YVONNE, YOU HAVE OTHER COMMENTS, MIKE? I DON'T.

I'M JUST HERE IN CASE YOU DO.

THANK YOU.

UM, UH, FROM STAFF, I WOULD JUST REMIND YOU THAT, UM, WHERE THERE WERE OTHER SUGGESTIONS MADE TONIGHT, THE RECOMMENDATION IN FRONT OF YOU, OR THE APPLICATION IN FRONT OF YOU IS FOR, UM, THE MF ONE ZONING.

SO AS SOMEBODY MENTIONED, UH, WOULD REALLY RATHER HAVE IT SF ONE, UM, OR SF TWO.

THAT IS NOT WHAT'S IN FRONT OF YOU TONIGHT.

SO WE DO NOT HAVE THE, UM, THE AUTHORITY TO DO THAT.

UM, SO YOU, YOU HAVE THE CHOICE TO, TO SAY THIS IS SHOULD STAY GC OR WE BELIEVE TO RECOMMEND TO CITY COUNCIL THAT IT BECOME, UH, THE MF ONE.

SO THAT JUST AGAIN, A REMINDER THAT THAT'S WHAT'S IN FRONT OF YOU TONIGHT.

THANK YOU.

BOARD.

DO WE HEAR A MOTION? WELL, I'LL MAKE THE MOTION TO START IT.

THANK YOU SPENCER, FOR WHAT'S THE MOTION? TO APPROVE? TO APPROVE.

THANK YOU.

WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE.

DO WE HAVE A SECOND? IF THERE'S NO SECOND, THAT MEANS THERE'S NO THE MOTION FAILS FOR LACK OF A SECOND MOTION? YES.

OKAY.

THEN WE WOULD REQUEST A MOTION TO DENY SO WE HAVE SOMETHING TO MOVE FORWARD TO.

COUNSEL.

WE WILL HAVE TO FORWARD THIS TO COUNSEL YOUR RECOMMENDATION.

SO THIS WOULD GO TO COUNSEL IF WE DENY THIS.

THIS GOES TO COUNSEL.

REGARDLESS, YOURS GOES AS THE RECOMMENDATION.

EITHER APPROVE OR DENY TO COUNSEL.

AND IF IT'S DENIED, DOES COUNSEL GET TO CONSIDER IT AND COUNSEL WILL CONSIDER IT.

WE'LL HAVE YOUR RECOMMENDATION AS WELL.

OKAY.

I MAKE A MOTION.

DID HE APPLY FOR SF TWO ? NO.

I MAKE MOTION.

SHOULD I SECOND? WELL, WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR.

WE JUST DON'T HAVE A SECOND YET.

I'LL SECOND IT.

THANK YOU.

SO WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO APPROVE QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS.

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YES.

LIKE SHOW OF HANDS.

ALL IN FAVOR WOULD JEFF? YOU MADE THE MOTION.

OH, I DIDN'T MAKE IT.

.

THOSE OPPOSED HOW MANY WE HAVE FOUR.

NINE.

WAS THERE FOUR? FOUR STAND CORRECT? I JEFF.

HMM? ONE ABSTAIN.