* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:21] I AM GONNA CALL [1. CALL TO ORDER AND ROLL CALL] THE MEETING TO ORDER THE SEPTEMBER 24, 20 SEC, 21ST MEETING OF PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION. AND NAY, WOULD YOU CALL THE ROLE PLEASE? COMMISSIONER CORNS HERE. COMMISSIONER PIERCE. COMMISSIONER PIERCE. COMMISSIONER WALTERS. HERE. LAREDO? HERE. HARLOW? HERE. WINFREY? HERE. WHEELER HERE. OU HERE. AND I AM TRYING TO GET MITCHELL HERE. GOD, THERE WE GO. THANK YOU SIR. THANK YOU. NO. UH, SECOND [2. MINUTES] ORDER OF BUSINESS IS THE MINUTE OF THE AUGUST 17TH MEETING, PLANNING AND ZONE. COMMISSION MEETING. UM, DO I HEAR A MOTION TO APPROVE? MOTION TO APPROVE. SECOND. HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR PLEASE INDICATE BY SAYING AYE. AYE. THOSE OPPOSED LIKE SIGN. WE HAD, UH, TWO PLATS, THREE A AND THREE B. BOTH HAVE BEEN WITHDRAWN, SO WE WILL MOVE TO FOUR A VARIANCES. MS. MS. CHAIRMAN? YES. IS THAT UM, IT WAS JUST THE ONE PLAT THREE A AND IT WAS GONNA BE FIVE. OH, SORRY. IT'S OKAY. IT'S FIVE A AND FIVE B. THAT WILL BE WITHDRAWN ALSO. SO WE HAVE THREE B [b. Consider approving Bayland Island Hotel and Convention Center Amending Plat, being approximately 26.17 acres located between Black Duck Bay and Tabbs Bay south of State Highway 146.] APPRO CONSIDER APPROVING BAYLAND ISLAND HOTEL AND CONVENTION CENTER AMENDING PLANT BEING APPROXIMATELY 26 POINT 17 ACRES LOCATED BETWEEN BLACK DUCK BAY AND TABS BAY, SOUTH OF STATE HIGHWAY 1 46. WHAT'S YOUR PLEASURE COMMISSION? NATHAN, DO YOU HAVE COMMENTS? YES. I JUST WANTED TO TO STATE THAT THIS CAME BEFORE YOU, UM, ABOUT A MONTH AGO. UM, AND THERE WAS, UH, A SMALL GENERAL NOTE ON THE FACE OF THE PLAT THAT DIDN'T NEED TO BE THERE. SO IT WAS A CORRECTION THAT NEEDED TO BE DONE, UM, FOR IT TO BE RECORDED. SO THEN WE BRING IT BACK TO YOU AS AN AMENDING PLAT. SO THIS, THIS NOTE, UH, WITHIN, I THINK IT WAS NOTE NUMBER 18, THAT WAS CHANGED IN REGARDS TO, UM, UH, PUBLIC WATER THAT WAS CALLED OUT IN THAT PARTICULAR NOTE. SO WITH THAT CHANGE, WE BRING THIS BACK AND FORTH, UH, BEFORE YOU TO BE APPROVED AS AN AMENDING PLAT. THANK YOU NATHAN. YES, MA'AM. IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS OF NATHAN? DO, DO I HEAR A MOTION TO APPROVE? MOVE TO APPROVE. DO I HEAR A SECOND? SECOND. ANY COMMENTS? ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE INDICATE BY SAYING AYE. A AYE. AYE. THOSE OPPOSED LIKE, SIGN. MOVING ALONG TO VARIANCES, CONSIDER A REQUEST [a. Consider a request for a subdivision variance to have reduced frontage on an improved public right-of-way for approximately 4.85 acres located at 2110 East Wallisville Road, Harris County, Texas.] FOR A SUBDIVISION VARIANCE TO HAVE REDUCED FRONTAGE ON AN IMPROVED PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY FOR APPROXIMATELY 4.85 ACRES. LOCATED AT 2110 EAST WALLACE FIELD ROAD, HARRIS COUNTY. HI, GOOD EVENING BOARD YVONNE BRISCOE, PLANNER TWO FOR CITY OF BAYTOWN. UM, THIS SUBDIVISION VARIANCE THAT'S BEING REQUESTED IS TO, UM, DIVIDE A LOT THAT'S IN OUR ETJ. UM, IT IS SOUTH OF WALLACE BILL. UM, GARTH IS WAY FURTHER EAST. UM, AND WHAT THEY'RE REQUESTING IS TO DIVIDE THIS LOT INTO FOUR PIECES. UM, TWO LOTS WILL HAVE THE REQUIRED FRONTAGE. TRACK ONE AND TRACK TWO WILL HAVE THE REQUIRED BY ORDINANCE TRACK THREE, WHICH IS LOCATED BEHIND TRACK ONE AND TWO. AND THEN FOUR BEHIND THAT WILL ACTUALLY WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED IS EACH OF THEM HAVING A 10 FOOT FLAG, WHICH WOULD GIVE A TOTAL 20 FOOT FLAG ACCESS ALL THE WAY THROUGH TO THE BACK LOT. AND THEN THE, THE LAST, THE TRACK FOUR WILL HAVE 44 FEET. FEET. THAT'S ACTUALLY, UM, THE 10 FEET PLUS, IT'S ACTUALLY A DRAINAGE DITCH THAT THEY CAN'T ACCESS OFF OF. SO THE REQUEST IS TO JUST DEVIATE THE LOT, FRONTAGE ON THE TWO LOTS FOR THE FLAG TO THE BACK. AND THEN LOTS TWO, THREE, AND FOUR. THIS INSET WILL, ALL THREE OF THOSE WILL COME IN ON THAT ONE ACCESS TO DECREASE THE, THE CURB, THE DRIVEWAY ACCESS OFF OF VILLE. UM, [00:05:01] STAFF HAS REVIEWED IT AND WE THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, WITH THE VARIANCE, IT'S A GOOD WAY TO USE THE PROPERTY. DO Y'ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME? QUESTIONS? ANYONE? NO. HEARING NONE. DO I HEAR A MOTION? I MOVE TO APPROVE. THANK YOU. DONNA. DO I HEAR A SECOND? SECOND. COMMENTS, QUESTIONS? ALL IN FAVOR INDICATE BY SAYING AYE. AYE. THOSE OPPOSED? LIKE SOME MOTION CARRIES. MOVING TO ITEM FIVE ZONING, UH, WHICH WILL BE SEVERAL PUBLIC HEARINGS. THE PUBLIC HEARINGS TODAY ARE BEING HELD FOR THE PURPOSE OF GIVING ALL INTERESTED PERSONS THE RIGHT TO SPEAK AND TO BE HEARD. EVERYONE DESIRING TO SPEAK AT TODAY'S HEARING SHOULD HAVE EITHER SIGNED THE APPROPRIATE LIST IN THE FOYER OR EMAILED PLANNING@BAYTOWN.ORG. PRIOR TO THE POSTED TIME OF THIS MEETING, EACH SPEAKER SHALL GIVE HIS OR HER NAME AND ADDRESS IN ORDER TO PROVIDE A PROPER RECORD OF THIS HEARING. THE RULES ALLOW EACH SPEAKER THREE MINUTES TO PRESENT INFORMATION. HOWEVER, I ENCOURAGE EVERYONE TO BE AS BRIEF AND TO THE POINT AS POSSIBLE. IF YOU ARE A GROUP OF PERSONS WISHING TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION ON THE SAME SUBJECT, PLEASE SELECT A SPOKESPERSON TO PRESENT THE INFORMATION. IF ANYONE HAS ANY QUESTIONS, PLEASE DIRECT THEM TO ME. OUR FIRST ITEM IS ITEMS A AND B HAVE BEEN WITHDRAWN. SO WE WILL [c. Conduct the second public hearing concerning a request to amend the official zoning map to rezone approximately 20.82 acres, generally located east of Thompson Road and north of Ellis School Road from Open Space/Recreation (OR) to General Commercial (GC) Zoning District.] MOVE TO ITEM FIVE C. CONDUCT THE SECOND PUBLIC HEARING CONCERNING A REQUEST TO AMEND OFFICIALS ZONING MAP TO REZONE APPROXIMATELY 20.82 ACRES. GENERALLY LOCATED EAST OF THOMPSON ROAD AND NORTH OF ELLIS SCHOOL ROAD FROM OPEN SPACE RECREATION TO GENERAL COMMERCIAL COMMERCIAL ZONING DISTRICT. GOOD EVENING COMMISSION. FRANCESCA LINDER PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DEPARTMENT. UM, THIS IS A SECOND PUBLIC HEARING. UH, WE DID SEE THIS LAST MONTH. UM, THIS AREA IS NEAR THE INTERSECTION OF THOMPSON ROAD AND ELLIS SCHOOL ROAD. UM, THE OWNERS HAVE APPLIED FOR ANNEXATION INTO CITY LIMITS AS WELL AS A ZMA IN ORDER TO GET GENERAL COMMERCIAL. THIS DOES COMPLY WITH THE FLUKE. AND HERE IS THE AREA WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE. AS YOU CAN SEE ACROSS THOMPSON, UM, IS GENERAL COMMERCIAL. THAT IS WHERE BAWA IS, AS WELL AS SOUTH OF THIS, UH, PROPERTY ALONG ELLIS SCHOOL ROAD IS ALSO GENERAL COMMERCIAL. AS THAT FRONT'S ON INTERSTATE 10. I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. ANYBODY HAVE QUESTIONS? DON'T EVERYBODY TALK AT ONCE. , WHAT ARE THE ZONINGS OF THE WHITE AREA? COULD YOU GO BACK A COUPLE OF MAPS? YES. SO THE AREA, THE WHITE AREA IN HERE IS OUTSIDE OF CITY LIMITS, SO IT DOES NOT HAVE A ZONING, RIGHT? IS THAT IT? OKAY. HAVING NO ONE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK. IS THERE ANYONE HERE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ISSUE BEFORE WE MOVE FORWARD? THEN OFFICIALLY CLOSE THIS PUBLIC HEARING. UH, FIVE [d. Consider making a recommendation concerning a proposed amendment to the official zoning map to rezone approximately 20.82 acres, generally located east of Thompson Road and north of Ellis School Road from Open Space/Recreation (OR) to General Commercial (GC) Zoning District. ] D CONSIDER MAKING A RECOMMENDATION CONCERNING A PRO PROPOSED AMENDMENT TO THE OFFICIAL ZONING MAP TO REZONE APPROXIMATELY 20.82 ACRES. GENERALLY LOCATED EAST OF THOMPSON ROAD AND NORTH OF ELLIS SCHOOL ROAD FROM OPEN SPACE RECREATION TO GENERAL COMMERCIAL ZONING DISTRICT. UH, THIS IS FOR THE SAME PROPERTY PREVIOUSLY DESCRIBED. UH, STAFF HAS ANALYZED THIS AND DO RECOMMEND, UH, THE ZONING CHANGE. I'D LIKE TO MOVE FOR APPROVAL. HAVE A MOTION. DO I HEAR A SECOND? SECOND. HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO APPROVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE INDICATE BY SAYING AYE. THOSE OPPOSED LIKES SIGNED. THANK YOU COMMISSIONERS. UM, OUR SECOND [e. Conduct the second public hearing concerning a request to amend the official zoning map to rezone approximately 34.07 acres, generally located east of Sjolander Road and south of E IH 10 from Open Space/Recreation (OR) to Light Industrial (LI) Zoning District.] PUBLIC HEARING CONCERNING A REQUEST TO AMEND THE OFFICIAL ZONING MAP TO REZONE APPROXIMATELY 34.07 ACRES, GENERALLY LOCATED EAST OF SHO ROAD AND SOUTH OF EAST INTERSTATE HIGHWAY 10 FROM OPEN SPACE RECREATION TO LIGHT INDUSTRIAL ZONING DISTRICT. THIS IS ALSO FOR A SECOND PUBLIC HEARING. WE DID SEE THIS, UM, SAME APPLICATION LAST [00:10:01] MONTH. AS A REMINDER THOUGH, UH, THIS TRACK IS CURRENTLY BEING ANNEXED INTO THE CITY LIMITS AS WELL AS THIS TRACK HERE ON THE, OH, I FORGOT. IT'S NOT WORKING. OVER HERE TO THE, UH, TO THE WEST OF IT. UM, HOWEVER, THIS APPLICATION IS JUST FOR THE 34, UH, 0.07 ACRES THAT IS HIGHLIGHTED. UH, THE FUTURE LAND USE PLAN DOES HAVE THIS AREA DESIGNATED AS BUSINESS PARK, AND WHAT THEY ARE REQUESTING IS LIGHT INDUSTRIAL. AND IT WOULD, UM, UH, HAVE THE SAME ZONING AS THE PROPERTY TO THE EAST OF IT, UM, WHICH IS CURRENTLY UNDER CONTRACT TO BE OWNED BY THE SAME INDIVIDUALS AND, UH, BE A PART OF THE SAME DEVELOPMENT. UM, THE APPLICANT IS HERE TONIGHT. HE DID SIGN UP TO SPEAK AND HE DOES HAVE A PRESENTATION IF YOU WOULD ALLOW IT. OKAY. I HAVE SEVERAL PEOPLE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK AT THIS, UH, THOMAS PARENT. TRACY, COULD WE DO THIS? THE, THE SPEAKER FIRST PRESENTATION YOU WANNA HEAR FROM DEVELOPER FIRST? THOMAS, LET US HEAR FROM THE DEVELOPER FIRST AND THEN I'LL CALL ON YOU. YES, MA'AM. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. EXCUSE. PERFECT, THANK YOU. UH, MY NAME'S BEN ALLEN. I'M WITH ARCH TRADE PROPERTIES. UH, WE'RE CURRENTLY UNDER CONTRACT FOR 234 ACRES HERE AT THE SUBJECT PROPERTY. UM, SO JUST A QUICK OVERVIEW. UM, WE'RE PLANNING TO DEVELOP AN INDUSTRIAL PARK CLASS, A INDUSTRIAL WAREHOUSE DISTRIBUTION BUILDINGS IN THE CONFIGURATION YOU SEE HERE. UH, JUST A QUICK NOTE ON THIS SLIDE. UM, I JUST WANNA MAKE CLEAR THAT, UH, WE HAVE NO DRIVEWAY ACCESS PLANNED FOR NEEDLEPOINT ROAD. ALL OF OUR ACCESS IS PLANNED FOR THE, UH, INTERSTATE 10, UH, SERVICE ROAD. AND SO THERE SHOULD NOT BE, UH, REALLY ANY, UH, USE OF, UH, BAYTOWN CITY STREETS. IT'LL, IT SHOULD ALL BE OFF OF TDOT. UM, AND I CAN GO INTO MORE DETAIL ON THAT IN A MINUTE. SO THIS IS THE SUBJECT 35 ACRES THAT WE'RE ASKING FOR THE REZONING ON THE REST OF THE, THE PARK IS ALREADY CURRENTLY ZONED LIGHT INDUSTRIAL. UM, AS YOU CAN SEE, UH, 90% OF THE PROPERTY IS PLANNED TO BE A DETENTION POND. UM, I WANNA MAKE A NOTE ALSO HERE, UH, THAT THERE'S A, A PIPELINE GOING THROUGH THE PROPERTY. AS YOU CAN SEE THAT THERE'S TWO SEPARATE DETENTION PONDS. UH, WE HAD TO DO THIS TO KIND OF WORK AROUND THE PIPELINE. IT DOES LIMIT THE USABILITY OF THE TRACT IN GENERAL, UM, FOR ANY OTHER USE. UM, AND AS YOU CAN SEE, UH, THERE'S ONE BAY OF A, A BUILDING AND, AND, UH, BASICALLY TRUCK COURT, UH, THAT WILL BE, UH, USING THE PROPERTY FOR LIGHT INDUSTRIAL PURPOSES. UM, SO I'M GONNA GO AHEAD AND MOVE TO THE NEXT SLIDE. UH, THIS IS JUST KIND OF A MORE OF A, UH, BIRD'S EYE VIEW OF THE GENERAL AREA. SO AS YOU CAN SEE, MCGEE GULLY, UH, HERE DIVIDES THE, THE, UH, PROPERTY FROM ITS, UH, THE, THE PROPERTY TO THE WEST THAT ADJOINS SHO LAND ROAD. SO THERE'S A NATURAL BARRIER HERE BETWEEN, UH, OUR BUSINESS PARK THAT WE'RE PROPOSING AND THE PROPERTY TO THE WEST THAT, UH, THAT, UH, IS, IS, UH, ADJACENT TO THE, TO THE INTERSECTION. SO THE WAY WE'RE, WE'RE PLANNING THIS DEVELOPMENT, IT REALLY SHOULD, UH, PREVENT MUCH, IF ANY TRUCK TRAFFIC, UH, AT THAT INTERSECTION BECAUSE THERE IS AN OFF RAMP FROM I 10 DIRECTLY TO OUR, UH, INDUSTRIAL PARKS THAT WE'RE PLANNING. AND THEN IT, UH, THERE'S AN UNDERPASS AT THE RAILROAD WHERE TRUCKS CAN LOOP AROUND AND GET BACK ON I 10 GOING TO THE WEST WITHOUT, UH, HITTING THE INTERSECTION AT ALL. SO THAT'S ONE OF THE, THE DESIRABLE P PARTS OF THIS PROPERTY AND, AND WHY WE'VE, UH, WE'VE UNDERTAKEN THIS VENTURE. UM, I ALSO WANNA HIGHLIGHT JUST THE, ONE OF THE, THE MAIN CHALLENGES OF THIS, THIS SITE IS THE DRAINAGE. UM, SO THE, THE SITE NATURALLY, UH, DEGRADE SPLITS DOWN THE MIDDLE. SO ABOUT RIGHT HERE, ALL THE DRAINAGE WANTS TO GO TO MAGEE GOLI, AND THE EASTERN PORTION WANTS TO GO TO CEDAR BAYOU. NOW, OBVIOUSLY DECADES AGO, THE RAILROAD WAS PUT IN AND IT PREVENTS ANY STORM WATER FROM GOING TO CEDAR BAYOU. SO CURRENTLY UNDEVELOPED THAT WATER POOLS UP AT THE RAILROAD AND JUST SPREADS OUT IN THIS AREA UNTIL IT'S ABLE TO RECEDE. WHICHEVER WAY IT CAN [00:15:01] FIND. WITH OUR DEVELOPMENT, WE'LL BE PUTTING IN THREE LARGE DETENTION PONDS THAT WOULD CAPTURE ALL THAT WATER AND HOLD IT UNTIL STORM WATERS RECEDE, AND ALL OF IT WOULD FLOW TO MCGEE GULLY AT AN APPROPRIATE RATE, UH, TO REDUCE THE IMPACT ON THE AREA AND ON THE PROPERTY. UM, SO AGAIN, JUST GOING BACK TO, UM, THE 35 ACRES THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, ANY DEVELOPMENT OF THIS PROPERTY, THE ENTIRE 234 ACRES, UM, WOULD NEED TO DRAIN THIS DIRECTION. AND SO THIS DETENTION POND IS INEVITABLE FOR WHATEVER GETS BUILT HERE. I KNOW ONE OF THE OBJECTIONS AT THE LAST MEETING WAS THAT IF IT BECOMES LEAD INDUSTRIAL ZONING, THEN WHAT'S TO SAY? IT'S NOT SOMETHING ELSE OTHER THAN WHAT WE DEVELOP. AND JUST BASED ON THE ENGINEERING FOR THE SITE, IT'S GONNA HAVE TO BE MOSTLY DETENTION. AND SO IF IT WAS LEFT IN, OR YOU WOULD STILL HAVE A DETENTION POND, YOU'D JUST HAVE A LITTLE STRIP OF OR ZONING THAT'S REALLY NOT USABLE. SO MY RECOMMENDATION IS FOR THE COMMISSION TO APPROVE THIS AND, UH, PUT IT INTO LIGHT INDUSTRIAL TO MATCH THE PROPERTY TO THE WEST OR TO THE EAST. THANK YOU. DOES ANYBODY HAVE A QUESTIONS? DOES MR. ALLEN NO, IT'S YOUR CHANCE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. OKAY, THOMAS, I APOLOGIZE. NO, THAT WAS HELPFUL. UH, GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS. UH, MY NAME'S THOMAS PARENT. I LIVE AT 69 0 3 HUNTERS WAY LANE, UH, WHICH IS ACTUALLY ON THE MAP HERE, UM, JUST, UH, SOUTH OF THE PROPERTY. UM, I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME IN AND SPEAK FOR YOU TONIGHT. UM, MY MAIN PURPOSE FOR BEING HERE REALLY WAS TO SEE WHAT THE DEVELOPER HAD TO PRESENT, UH, WHICH IS EFFECTIVELY UNCHANGED FROM OUR LAST MEETING. UM, GENERALLY THIS DOESN'T CONCERN ME, UH, THE WAY THAT THEY'RE CONFIGURING THEIR DEVELOPMENT. UH, WHAT CONCERNS ME IS THE POSSIBILITIES OF LIGHT INDUSTRIAL IN GENERAL. IF THEY WERE TO NOT BE THE ONES DEVELOPING IT, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN'T LOCK THEM INTO THIS SITE PLAN. UM, SO, YOU KNOW, I I JUST COME BEFORE YOU ASKING THE CITY AND THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION TO HELP PROTECT RESIDENTS OF BAYTOWN IN GENERAL. UM, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE'RE, WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, HOW WE GROW AS A CITY, YOU KNOW, ADDING MORE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL ADJACENT TO RESIDENTIAL SHOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WE OPPOSE GENERALLY. AND THAT'S NOT SOMETHING WE'VE DONE AS A CITY, UH, WHICH IS QUITE FRANKLY DISAPPOINTING THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE EVEN IN THIS POSITION LOOKING AT THIS. AND, UH, THE WAY THAT IT'S JUST KIND OF STAGGERING IN. YOU KNOW, I, I FEEL LIKE THIS ISN'T GONNA BE MY, YOU KNOW, THIS ISN'T MY FIRST TIME BEING HERE ABOUT A LIGHT INDUSTRIAL EXPANSION AROUND MY NEIGHBORHOOD, AND I DON'T BELIEVE IT'S GONNA BE THE LAST TIME THAT I'LL BE HERE. THERE'S, UH, HALF OF THIS TRACT, UH, IS BEING LEFT OPEN SPACE RECREATIONAL ON THE, UH, WEST SIDE OF MCGEE GULLY. AND, UH, YOU KNOW, THE WAY THAT IT'S KIND OF BEING PIECEMEALED TOGETHER, I, I EXPECT THAT WE'LL BE TALKING ABOUT THAT ONE AGAIN IN THE NEAR FUTURE. UH, THERE WAS RUMORS ABOUT IT BEING A TRUCK STOP. UH, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU PUT IN A LIGHT INDUSTRIAL PARK LIKE THIS, YOU START ATTRACTING BUSINESSES THAT ARE THERE TO SUPPORT LIGHT INDUSTRIAL PARKS LIKE THIS. UH, AND I CAN SEE, YOU KNOW, THE POTENTIAL FOR SOMEBODY TO WANT TO PUT SOMETHING LIKE THAT IN, AND THEN YOU WILL START HAVING IMPACTS TO THAT INTERSECTION. UH, THERE'S ALREADY A, A GAS STATION THERE THAT IS SET UP FOR, UH, DIESEL TRUCK FUELING. AND I EXPECT THAT WE WILL SEE MORE TRUCK TRAFFIC ON SHO ROAD BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO TURN BACK ON SHO ROAD TO GET BACK TO INTERSTATE 10 FROM THAT GAS STATION. UH, SO TO SAY THAT THERE'S NO IMPACT OR LOW IMPACT TO OUR AREAS, JUST, I MEAN, IT'S UNTRUE. UH, AND, YOU KNOW, I I WOULD HOPE THAT THE CITY OF BAYTOWN WOULD, YOU KNOW, WORK WITH THE RESIDENTS, TALK TO THE RESIDENTS THAT ARE HERE, AND, UH, YOU KNOW, COME UP WITH SOMETHING. UH, YOU KNOW, WE, WE DID PROPOSE SOME RECOMMENDATIONS ON WAYS THAT THIS COULD BE MADE BETTER. I HAVEN'T SEEN ANY OF THAT. I HAVEN'T HEARD ANYTHING FROM THE CITY OF BAYTOWN DESPITE REQUESTS ABOUT THAT. I HAVEN'T HEARD ANYTHING FROM THE DEVELOPERS, YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST, UH, YOU KNOW, I THINK THIS IS GONNA TURN OUT LIKE EVERYTHING ELSE THAT HAPPENS IN BAYTOWN WHERE, YOU KNOW, WE'LL, WE'LL GET PEOPLE HERE, WE'LL TALK ABOUT IT AND YOU KNOW, IT'S GONNA HAPPEN ANYWAY. SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU THOMAS. UH, STEVE PHELPS. THANK YOU COMMISSIONERS. UH, I'M HERE. I'M STEVE PHELPS, 51 18 TURNBERRY, PASADENA, TEXAS. [00:20:01] UH, I'M REPRESENTING THE CURRENT OWNERS OF THE 35 ACRE TRACK ON I 10. UM, WE JUST WANTED TO GO, GO PUBLIC THAT WE'RE IN SUPPORT OF THIS, AS I'M SURE YOU CAN IMAGINE. I, WE BOUGHT THE TRACK, UH, ESSENTIALLY WHEN WE WERE LOOKING AT THE DETENTION ISSUE. SO ARCHWAY HAS COME IN AND PUT IT UNDER CONTRACT, AND THEY'RE LOOKING AT IT THE SAME WAY WE ARE, UH, OR WE, WE WERE. SO ANYWAY, JUST MAINLY WANTED TO BE HERE TO, UH, VOICE OUR SUPPORT FOR THE THE DEAL. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANKS, STEVE. DAWN, DENNIS. YES. I'M DON DENNIS WITH ARCHWAY PROPERTIES. I'M ACTUALLY THE FOUNDING PARTNER. I, I JUST WANT TO GO ON THE RECORD AS SAYING THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, WE DO WANNA WORK WITH THE COMMUNITY, UH, WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING HERE. UM, I HAD LOOKED AT SOME OF THE PREVIOUS PLANS THAT OTHER DEVELOPERS HAD LOOKED AT. WE'RE PROVIDING WE'RE, WE'RE NOT GONNA BRING ANY RAIL SERVICE AND TRY TO EXTEND THE RAIL THROUGH HERE, WHICH, UH, CAN BE A REAL NUISANCE TO SOME OF THE LANDOWNERS. WE WILL NOT, WE DON'T HAVE ANY ACCESS TO NEEDLE POINT ROAD OR TO SHO LAND ROAD DIRECTLY. UH, THE INCREASE IN TAX BASE, I BELIEVE ALL OF THIS PROPERTY, NOT JUST THE 34 ACRES UNDER CONSIDERATION FOR THE ANNEXATION REZONING, BUT ALSO THE REMAINING TRACK IS ALL TAX EXEMPT NOW. IT'S ALL, UH, AG, AG, NOT TIMBER AG EXEMPTED PROPERTY, UH, THE COMPLETED DEVELOPMENT. AND IT'S NOT TILL IT'S COMPLETED, BUT WHAT WE'VE GOT PROPOSED IS OVER $200 MILLION OF TAX VALUE, UH, TO THIS. UH, IT'S NOT GONNA BE HEAVY MANUFACTURING SMOKESTACK. IT WILL TEND TO BE DISTRIBUTION SPACE. UH, THE ONLY DIFFERENCES WE SEE ON THE PLAN THAT WE PROPOSED AND WHAT MIGHT HAPPEN, RATHER THAN A 1.1 MILLION FOOT BUILDING, IT MIGHT BE A 900,000 FOOT BUILDING THAT'S JUST GOT A, A BUNCH OF EXTRA PARKING FOR, UH, EMPLOYEES ARE EXPERIENCE THIS WAY. IT, YOU KNOW, THIS WILL EASILY EMPLOY OVER A THOUSAND PEOPLE, UH, THIS COMPLETED PARK WHEN DONE. UH, AND THE TYPES OF COMPANIES THAT LEASE THE TYPE OF SPACE THAT WE DELIVER ARE FIRST CLASS COMPANIES. THEY'RE NOT, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE NAME BRAND COMPANIES. UH, OUR PARTNERS ARE LENDERS REQUIRE US TO DO QUALITY DEVELOPMENTS. FINALLY, I JUST SAY, YOU KNOW, DON'T TRUST ME. IT'S A HARD THING. Y'ALL DON'T KNOW ME, THE RESIDENTS DON'T KNOW ME, BUT LOOK AT OUR BODY OF WORK. WHEN I'M EVALUATING ANYBODY THAT I'M GONNA DO BUSINESS WITH, AND THEY'RE TELLING ME ABOUT ALL THE GREAT THINGS THEY'RE GONNA DO, ONE OF THE FIRST QUESTIONS I ASK IS, WHAT HAVE YOU DONE? AND, UH, CITY OF HUMBLE, CITY OF WALLER, LOCALLY HERE, FORT BEND COUNTY, HARRIS COUNTY, MONTGOMERY COUNTY, WALLER COUNTY, GO UP. UH, I PERSONALLY DEVELOPED IN 14 STATES. WE HAVE NOT LEFT DEAD BODIES IN OUR WAKE. UH, WE, UH, WORK WITH COMMUNITIES. WE WANT TO ENHANCE COMMUNITIES AND BRING VALUE TO COMMUNITIES. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. MAY I ASK YOU ONE QUESTION? YES, SIR. IF THAT'S OKAY. WOULD THIS BE A 24 HOUR OPERATION? YOU KNOW, IT'S HARD TO SAY. TYPICALLY NOT. UH, IT'S FUNNY, AFTER WITH THIS PANDEMIC, A LOT OF DISTRIBUTION OPERATIONS HAVE HAD TO EXTEND HOURS JUST TO KIND OF KEEP UP WITH, UH, WITH DEMAND. AND, AND, AND TO JUST BE TOTALLY CANDID, I DON'T KNOW WHO THE SPECIFIC USERS ARE THERE. THIS IS, YOU KNOW, RIGHT NOW, THIS PLAN IS SPECULATIVE. WE WON'T BUILD ALL OF THE BUILDINGS SPECULATIVELY. THAT WOULD BE A POOR THING TO DO TO THE COMMUNITY AS WELL, TO HAVE A BUNCH OF VACANT WAREHOUSE SPACE THERE. WE'LL DO A BUILDING AT A TIME, OR WE'LL ATTRACT A USER WHO'S LOOKING TO DO THE BUILDING THERE. BUT THERE COULD BE SUBJECT TO, UH, UH, MEETING ALL CITY CODES AND ORDINANCES WITH NOISE AND ALL THAT. THERE COULD BE, UH, EVENING, NIGHTTIME, SOME NIGHTTIME WORK. YES, THAT WAS MY CONCERN. LIKES LATE AT NIGHT AND NOISE. SO THAT'S WHY I WAS ASKING THAT QUESTION. AND ONE OF THE WAYS, AND THE WE, PART OF THE REASON WE'VE ORIENTED THE BUILDINGS THE WAY WE HAVE IS WE, UH, IF YOU NOTICE THE DOCK DOORS ARE FACING EAST AND WEST AS OPPOSED TO NORTH AND SOUTH. MM-HMM . AND THEN THAT VEGETATIVE B BUFFER NIGHT, YOU KNOW, I, I APPLAUD THE CITY. I CAN'T RECALL DEVELOPING, MAYBE THE WOODLANDS WOULD BE THE ONLY PLACE WHERE I'VE DEVELOPED, WHERE I'VE HAD THAT KIND OF VEGETATIVE BUFFER BEFORE AND DEALING WITH IT. AND THAT WILL DO, THAT WILL DRAMATICALLY, UH, UH, DECREASE ANY KIND OF LIGHT POLLUTION THAT THAT MIGHT COME THROUGH. AND THEN WE WILL HAVE, JUST BECAUSE OUR CLIENTS WILL REQUIRE, WE [00:25:01] WILL HAVE, YOU KNOW, UH, SIGNIFICANT, YOU KNOW, IT'LL BE FENCED AND, AND SO RESTRICTING ACCESS AND ANYTHING. SO IT'S NOT GONNA BE LIKE ACCIDENTAL ACCESS. KIND OF GOING BACK TO NEEDLE POINT. A GOOD QUESTION. THANK YOU, RICK. YES. ANYTHING ELSE? SO YOU MENTIONED ALL THE JOBS AND REVENUE. UH, I'M ASSUMING THAT A VAST MAJORITY OF THAT'S GONNA BE ON THE BIGGER PIECE OF PROPERTY, RIGHT? NOT ON THE ONE WITH THE TWO HUGE ATTENTION. THAT IS CORRECT. THAT, YEAH. THAT, YOU KNOW, AND WE, WE, WE HAD TO SORT OF SHOW EVERYTHING. THE REAL, THE ONLY THING IN FRONT OF THIS COMMISSION IS THAT PINK 34 ACRE PROPERTY THERE. AND IT, IT'LL HAVE LIMITED VALUE, BUT IT WILL HAVE MORE VALUE THAN IT CURRENTLY HAS BEING AG EXEMPTED. BUT YOU'RE RIGHT, THE VALUE COMES WHERE THE IMPROVED BUILDINGS ARE. THAT IS ABSOLUTELY TRUE. UH, MY NEXT QUESTION IS, IS THAT, WOULD YOU BE UNABLE TO BUILD AND OPERATE ON THE BIGGER PIECE OF PROPERTY WITHOUT THOSE TWO DETENTION PONDS? ON THE SMALLER PIECE OF PROPERTY, IT WOULD DRAMATICALLY CHANGE THE DEVELOPMENT. AND AS MY PARTNER BEN ALLEN, UH, PRESENTED THE DRAINAGE HAS TO GO WEST ON THIS PROPERTY. THAT'S PART OF THE PROBLEM WITH JUST THE AREA. AND AS WE WENT TO EVALUATE IT, AND OUR CONCERN ABOUT DRAINAGE ON ANY OF OUR PROPERTIES IS RIGHT NOW THE EASTERN PORTION OF THE LARGE TRACK, THE TRACK THAT'S ALREADY WITHIN THE CITY, IT, IT'S, IT'S NOT GOING ANYWHERE. 'CAUSE THE RAILROAD IS DAMING IT UP. YEAH. AND THAT'S NOT A GOOD SITUATION. SO, UH, AND WE WOULDN'T, I DON'T THINK WE COULD HAVE AFFORDED IT ANYWAY, BUT WE HAD NO RIGHT TO GO UNDER THE RAIL TRACKS OR DO ANYTHING TO TRY TO CHANNEL THAT WATER TO THE BAYOU. SO EVERYTHING'S GOTTA GO WEST. SO WE'RE ACTUALLY GONNA HAVE, YOU KNOW, A, A PUMP. IT'S, IT'S A, IT'S A PRETTY, UH, UH, EXTENSIVE SYSTEM TO GO FORWARD. AND SO IT'S GOTTA GET TO MCGEE GULLY. AND SO YES, WE WOULD NEED AT LEAST ACCESS TO GET TO MCGEE GULLY. THAT IS CORRECT. AND WITH A PIPELINE THAT BISECT THIS RIGHT HERE, IT'S REALLY, DETENTION IS ITS HIGHEST AND BEST USE, HONESTLY FOR, FOR THE REMAINDER OF THE TRACT. YOU GOOD? UH, AM I ALLOWED TO MAKE A, A STATEMENT ABOUT EXPERIENCE THAT I HAVE JUST TODAY? YEAH, THAT CORNER. OKAY. SO, UH, THIS ISN'T A, A DISAGREEMENT OR AGREEMENT WITH ANYBODY, BUT JUST TODAY I HAD TO TURN OFF OF I 10 ONTO SLANDER TO GO DOWN TO MY SON'S SCHOOL. IT WAS AROUND NOON. AND, UH, THAT INTERSECTION WAS HEAVILY BACKED UP. UH, I LET A LADY OUT THAT HAD EXITED THAT, UH, OFF THE HIGHWAY THAT KIND OF CUTS OVER IN FRONT OF THE CHEVRON STATION THAT HAD BEEN SITTING THERE WAITING FOR ALL THESE TRUCKS. AND THEN WHEN I LET HER IN THE PARKING LOT, GETTING INTO THE EXXON WAS ALL BACKED UP WHERE THERE WERE LIKE TWO BIG TOW TRUCKS AND ANOTHER BOX TRUCK. AND I MEAN, QUITE FRANKLY, IT WAS JUST A BIG MESS OVER THERE AT THAT INTERSECTION. SO I'M NOT SPEAKING AGAINST THE, THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT. I GUESS I'M SPEAKING OUT, YOU KNOW, MORE TO THE CITY OF BAYTOWN OF IF WE'RE GONNA APPROVE SOMETHING LIKE THIS, THERE'S SOME PRETTY DRASTIC CHANGES THAT NEED TO HAPPEN AT THAT INTERSECTION TO SUPPORT ALL THAT TRAFFIC. AND I THINK THAT ANYONE THAT SAT THROUGH THAT LIKE I DID, WOULD I HAVE TWO? NO, I, WE'VE NOTED THAT WE, LET ME, LET ME SORT OF PHRASE IT A LITTLE DIFFERENTLY. IF THE ONLY ACCESS TO THIS PROPERTY HAD BEEN THROUGH THE COMING, UH, EASTBOUND HAD BEEN THE SHO ROAD EXIT, IF THAT HAD BEEN THE ACCESS TO THIS PROPERTY, WE WOULDN'T HAVE PURSUED IT. WE'RE RELYING SOLELY ON THE EXIT THAT'S UNNAMED RIGHT NOW, BUT THE EXIT THAT'S EAST OF SHO ROAD SO THAT PEOPLE DON'T HAVE TO, AND THERE'S BOTH AN EXIT RAMP AND AN ENTRANCE RAMP GOING EASTBOUND THAT WAY. AND THAT'S WHERE ALL OF OUR ACCESS IS. UM, I HAVE A VERY SIMILAR, UH, PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT WE DEVELOPED IN UMBLE THAT'S AT WILL CLAYTON IN 1960. AND, UH, IT WAS THE SAME THING. IF IT HAD JUST BEEN THE WILL, AS IT TURNED OUT, YOU KNOW, WE NEEDED BOTH OF THOSE THERE, HERE, SHO LAND NO, WE, WE, WE WOULDN'T HAVE PURSUED IT. DO THEY HAVE SOMETHING THAT SHOWS THE MAP? THE MAP WITH THE EXIT AND, UM, BEN, DO YOU KNOW HOW TO WORK? YOU GO BACK . I, I'M A LITTLE TECHNOLOGICALLY CHALLENGED. AND SO WERE THOSE TRUCKS ASSOCIATED WITH THE BUSINESS THAT'S ALREADY THERE? 'CAUSE THIS DOESN'T EXIST. THAT WAS THAT COMING OUTTA THAT CHEVRON STATION. THE, UM, I, I HAVE NO, NO IDEA WHAT THE TRUCK DURING I 10 IS A NIGHTMARE. NEWS HALLWAYS. I, I KNOW IT. SO RIGHT HERE WHERE I'M DOING THIS ARROW, THAT'S THE EXIT RAMP. AND YOU CAN SEE WE HAVE A TOTAL OF 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 ACCESS POINTS FROM OUR PARK ONTO THE I 10 FEEDER ROAD. [00:30:01] SO TRUCKS EXITING. AND THEN IF YOU SEE WE'VE GOT CIRCULATION, IN FACT MANY, THIS, THIS WILL BE SORT OF THE MAIN ENTRANCE INTO THE PARK BECAUSE PEOPLE LEAVING HERE CAN THEN ENTER THE FREEWAY GOING EASTBOUND FROM HERE. IF THEY WANT TO GO BACK WESTBOUND, THEY COME. AND AS, UH, BEN MENTIONED, THERE'S A, A TURNAROUND AND THE TURNAROUND IS TALL ENOUGH AND WIDE ENOUGH AND EVERYTHING FOR TRUCK TRAFFIC. IT'S FRANKLY HOW THE CHEVRON PHILLIPS PEOPLE GET TO THEIR PROPERTY TO THE NORTH. AND THEN THERE'S AN ENTRANCE RAMP. WHAT IT DOESN'T SHOW ON HERE, THERE'S AN ENTRANCE RAMP RIGHT THERE IN THE OTHER SIDE BEFORE YOU GET TO SHO LAND ROAD. SO NOBODY, I, I PROMISE YOU THEY'RE IN AN 18 WHEEL DR DRIVER THAT KNOWS WHAT HE'S DOING AND HE'S BEEN GIVEN DIRECTION THAT'S GOING TO GO THROUGH THAT SHO INTERSECTION. THEY'RE JUST NOT GONNA DO IT. UH, THEY, THEY, THEY'RE, THEY'RE GONNA HAVE GOOD ACCESS POINTS, UH, TO GET FROM HERE WITHOUT HAVING TO GO THROUGH A LIGHT, WITHOUT HAVING TO DO THE, THE, ALL OF THAT GOING FORWARD. SO EVEN IF IT HAD BEEN OFFERED, WE DIDN'T WANT ACCESS BACK TO SHO ROAD, YOU KNOW, WE, AND, AND IT'S CUT OFF AND HAS BEEN MENTIONED BETWEEN MCGEE GULLY AND THIS DETENTION POND. YOU CAN ASSURE THAT THERE WON'T EVER BE ANY ACCESS BACK TO SHO ROAD HERE. I AGREE WITH RICK, UM, AND JEFF THAT I 10 AND SHO IS, IS ALWAYS A MESS. IT'S VERY HEAVY TRAFFIC. UM, SO THIS DOESN'T SEEM LIKE IT'S GONNA ADD TO IT JUST BECAUSE THE INGRESS AND EGRESS IS GONNA BE OFF OF I 10, BUT SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED THERE BECAUSE IF WE HAVE PARENTS AND MOMS TRYING TO GET IN AND OUT TO GET TO SCHOOL OR HOME, IT'S, IT'S A PROBLEM. WELL, BY THE WAY, THE LADY THAT I LET IN, SHE IMMEDIATELY TURNED ON NEEDLE POINT TO GO DOWN TO THAT NEIGHBORHOOD. SO, UH, IS NEEDLE POINT RIGHT THERE? UH, IT IS TWO WAY, TWO TWO LANES, RIGHT? YES, YES. NEEDLE POINT IS TWO LANES AND IT'S SHOWN ON JUST THE SOUTH BOUNDARY HERE. I REMEMBER. BEEN IS IS, SO IS THIS PROJECT GONNA BE RESTRICTED TO NOT USING NEEDLEPOINT AND NOT USING SHO LANDER? THAT'S, IT'S GONNA BE RESTRICTED IF THE RE BECAUSE PART THE RIGHT, THE EAST SIDE IS ALREADY REZONED FOR LIGHT INDUSTRIAL AND SO, CORRECT. SO IF THIS PROJECT GETS DONE OR NOT, IS IT GOING TO, NO MATTER WHAT GOES THERE, WILL IT BE RESTRICTED FROM USING NEEDLE POINT AND SHO YEAH, NEEDLE POINT IS NOT A, UH, A TRUCK ROUTE, NOR WOULD IT BE ABLE TO, UM, HANDLE THE AMOUNT OF TRUCKS THAT WOULD GO THERE. PLUS, AS THEY HAD SAID, AND I THINK WE HAD SAID THIS AT THE PREVIOUS MEETING, THERE IS A CHANCE THAT THEY MIGHT REQUEST THAT. RIGHT. BUT WE'RE NOT GONNA SUPPORT THERE TO BE ANY ACCESS COMING OFF OF NEEDLEPOINT ITSELF. NOW, IN REGARDS TO SHO, SHO IS A, IT'S, IT'S A DIFFERENT ANIMAL BECAUSE, UM, SLANDER AT THE INTERSECTION IS NOT A TRUCK ROUTE ALSO, BUT TRUCKS CROSS OVER THERE ALL THE TIME. WE CANNOT CONTROL THAT. UM, BUT ENGINEERING AND, UH, MR. IRWIN MIGHT, UH, COME UP HERE AND, AND, UH, EITHER AGREE WITH ME OR, OR NOT, BUT THEY'LL BE ASKING FOR SOME SORT OF A TIA, WHICH IS A TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS AT THE TIME OF, OF THIS, UH, SUBMISSION IF THIS WERE TO GO THROUGH. AND THEN THEY WOULD HAVE TO PROVE THAT THERE WOULD BE LIMITED IMPACT TO THESE PARTICULAR INTERSECTIONS IN, IN THE VICINITY. AND IF THEY, IF THEY WERE IMPACTED, THERE MIGHT BE SOME REQUESTS TO IMPROVE THOSE INTERSECTIONS OR IMPROVE THE MOBILITY IN THE AREA. AND THEN MY LAST QUESTION IS, IF THIS IS LEFT AS, OR IT'S NOT GONNA BE USABLE REALLY ANYWAY BECAUSE OF THE WAY THE WATER DRAINS? IS THAT MY UNDERSTANDING? I MEAN, THIS IS WHAT THIS GENTLEMAN HAS SAID. OKAY. AND SO IF, IF THAT'S THE WAY THAT THE CONTOURS AND THAT'S THE WAY THE DRAINAGE IS GOING, I THINK IT WOULD BE VERY DIFFICULT. AND PLUS THE PIPELINE THAT'S THERE, UM, I CAN'T SAY THAT FOR A 100% SURETY, BUT, UM, THANK YOU QUALIFY FOR OURSELVES. THAT'S, THAT IS A, A TRUE STATEMENT. I CAN'T COMMENT ON SOMEBODY ELSE COULD BE MORE CREATIVE THAN WE ARE. THEY PROBABLY COULD BE. I, I HAVE A QUESTION IN REGARDS TO THAT. YOU HAD, YOU HAD MENTIONED, WELL FIRST OF ALL, UM, IF THIS ISN'T APPROVED, YOU'RE STILL BUILDING ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THIS, THIS ACREAGE, WELL, NOT IN THAT CONFIGURATION. RIGHT. BUT YOU'RE BUILDING SOMETHING THERE, UH, TO BE DETERMINED. IF IT, IF IT WORKS WE'LL, WE'LL, WE'LL WE'LL GO. SO, BUT, BUT WE'VE, WE'VE PUT OUR E ALL OUR EGGS IN THIS BASKET, WE'D HAVE TO DO A COMPLETE REDESIGN AND FIGURE OUT THE ACCESS BACK TO DO IT. THE, THE ONLY REASON I'M ASKING, I MEAN, WHETHER YOU BUILD THERE OR NOT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S, I GUESS UP TO YOU. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE, UM, BECAUSE YOU'RE SAYING THAT THE, THE, THERE IS A NEED FOR THESE DETENTION PONDS BECAUSE OF THE FLOW. IS, IS THAT, I DON'T KNOW, NATHAN, IS THAT AN, IS THAT AN ISSUE [00:35:01] FOR NOT ONLY THIS, BUT THAT WHOLE AREA? IS IT THE, THE AMOUNT OF WATER OR WHAT'S NOT BEING ABLE TO FLOW IT DOWN OR, WELL, I WOULD HAVE TO AGREE. I MEAN, IT, THE, THE RAIL YARD OR THE RAIL OR THE RAILROAD TRACKS, THEY DO PROVIDE A DAM FOR THAT WATER. NOW, I'M NOT A HYDROLOGIST. I'M NOT SURE EXACTLY WHICH WAY THAT THAT THINGS RUN, BUT ALL I KNOW IS THAT THE STORM WATER WILL HAVE TO GO SOMEWHERE AND WILL HAVE TO BE TAKEN CARE OF IN SOME WAY, SHAPE, OR FASHION. AND IF, IF WHAT, UM, IS SAID HERE, AND AGAIN, ENGINEERING MIGHT BE ABLE TO HELP ME WITH THIS, UM, THE WAY THAT THE, THE CONTOURS OF THE LAND WILL, IF IT SHIFTS TOWARDS THE GULLY OVER HERE TO, TO THE WEST, THEN THAT WATER WILL HAVE TO BE CAPTURED BEFORE IT GOES INTO THE GULLY. AND I THINK THAT'S ONE OF THE MAIN POINTS THAT WAS TRYING TO BE MET. AND THEN IT HAS TO BE RESTRICTED TO POST POST-DEVELOPMENT FLOWS. IS THAT CORRECT? IRWIN? NOT BOB. HI, I'M IRWIN BUREN, THE, UH, CITY ENGINEER AND ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS. YES. UM, BOTH THOSE QUESTIONS I SUPPORT, UM, NATHAN'S COMMENTS. THE, THE SITE TO BE DEVELOPED IS REQUIRING DETENTION. THIS MEETS THAT CRITERIA, UH, POTENTIALLY ONCE WE SEE THE FINAL DESIGN. BUT THIS LAYOUT SHOULD MEET THAT CRITERIA AND IT'D HAVE TO HAVE THE DETENTION TO ACCOMPLISH THE DEVELOPMENT. SO, UM, THIS MAKES THE MOST SENSE 'CAUSE IT'S AT THE LOWER END OF THE TRACK AND THE CLOSEST TO THE CHANNEL. SO THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE THE MOST LOGICAL REASON WHY THEY DID THAT. AND AS FOR THE TRAFFIC, WE WOULD NOT SUPPORT TRUCK TRAFFIC ON NEEDLE POINT ROAD AS NATHAN STATED, BECAUSE OF THE OBVIOUS, UM, COMMENTS HE MADE. SO, UM, WE DON'T HAVE YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR ME? WE DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER CONCERNS. AND IS FROM ENGINEERING, YOU HAVE FOUR DETENTION PONDS HERE. THEY'LL ALL BE FED INTO THE GULLY, THEY'LL HAVE TO CONNECT. YES. AND THEN WE'RE BUILDING, OR THEY'RE BUILDING WAREHOUSES ACROSS THE STREET OFF THE CONCRETE. IS THAT WATER GONNA GO INTO THE GULLY AS WELL? IT'LL ALL HAVE TO OUTFALL TO THE CHANNEL, MOST LIKELY. YES. WILL THAT CREATE ANY KIND OF FLOODING PROBLEMS ALONG THE GEY? NO. 'CAUSE THEY'LL, THEY'LL ACTUALLY DETAIN TO A PRE-DEVELOPMENT FLOW RATE. SO, SO IN OTHER WORDS, WHAT HAPPENS IS IT, WHAT HAPPENS IS FROM THE CONCRETE, AND I'M NOT AN ENGINEER, SO WE'RE NOT GONNA DO THIS JUSTICE. EVERYTHING FROM THE TRUCK APRON ACTUALLY GETS DIRECTED INTO ONE OF THOSE DETENTION PONDS. WE DON'T, WE DON'T, NONE OF THAT CONCRETE DRAINS DIRECTLY INTO GULLY OR ONTO I 10 OR ON NEEDLE POINT ROAD OR ANYWHERE IT GOES INTO ONE OF THOSE FOUR PONDS. UH, IT'S PIPE. AND YOU'VE SEEN IT, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU GO IN, YOU JUST KIND OF SEE THE GRATES UNDERNEATH THERE. THERE'S PIPE UNDER THERE WHERE THOSE PIPES WILL LEAD TO THOSE PONDS. THEN THE EAST PONDS, WE GET A LITTLE FURTHER THEN DRAIN, YOU KNOW, THROUGH ALL THE WAY THROUGH THE CHANNEL ON BOTH THE NORTH AND THE SOUTH ENDS OF THE PROPERTY LIKE THAT TO THE WEST PONDS, WHICH THEN EVENTUALLY WILL DRAIN INTO THE GULLY, YOU KNOW, WHEN IT'S, WHEN IT'S APPROPRIATE AT THE, AT THE APPROPRIATE FLOW RATE. AND WE'RE, WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF DOING ALL OF THOSE SPECIFIC DESIGNS FOR BOTH CITY OF BAYTOWN AND HARRIS COUNTY FLOOD CONTROL APPROVAL, JUST LIKE WE ARE WITH TDOT. WE CAN'T JUST WILLY-NILLY PUT THOSE CURB CUTS IN THE LOCATIONS WHERE I'VE SAID THAT THE, THE MAIN, THE, THE REAL GAP BETWEEN WHAT I CALLED NUMBER THREE AND NUMBERS FOUR AND FIVE ARE BECAUSE YOU CAN'T GET TOO CLOSE TO WHEN YOU'RE EXITING OFF THE FREEWAY AND WHEN YOU'RE ENTERING THE FREEWAY, THEY'RE AFRAID THAT SOMEBODY MIGHT DECIDE TO KIND OF TURN BACK INTO THE SERVICE ROAD AND TRY TO GET ON THE FREEWAY. SO THAT'S WHY THOSE ARE SPREAD OUT THE WAY THEY ARE. SO THOSE SHOULD BEAT THE TECH STOCK CRITERIA, BUT IT TAKES A LITTLE WHILE TO GET THEIR APPROVAL THESE DAYS. BUT, BUT THAT'S, THAT SHOULD BE PRETTY CLOSE TO WHAT, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT THE FINAL IS. IT MAY BE A FEW FEET ONE WAY OR THE OTHER. AND TO, AND TO ADDRESS THE HOMEOWNER'S CONCERN ABOUT THE NOISE. AND, UH, THERE, AND I'M SURE THERE'S A BUFFER. I SEE SOME TREES HERE. UM, AND THE 24 HOUR, THE LIGHTS WILL BE DIRECTED AWAY FROM THE HOMEOWNERS, I'M SURE. AND YES, HAVE, UM, AS MUCH BUFFER AS POSSIBLE, UH, ACROSS NEEDLE POINT. YES. AND LET ME, LET ME GO BACK AND, YOU KNOW, WE TALKED ABOUT THE TRUCK TRAFFIC AND NOT DESIGNING NEEDLE POINT ROAD. WE DON'T, WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR AND DON'T WANT AND OR, OR REQUIRE OR WANT ANY VEHICULAR TRAFFIC CAR OR TRUCK ON THE NEEDLE POINT. NO ONE WILL BE ABLE TO ACCESS THIS PART FROM NEEDLE POINT ROAD OR SHO LAND. THIS NOW THE LITTLE WHITE CORNER IN THE VERY LOWER LEFT CORNER THERE, THAT'S ALREADY AN EXISTING MANUFACTURING BUILDING THERE. AND UNFORTUNATELY THAT DOESN'T HELP US OUT MUCH BECAUSE WHAT WE'RE BUILDING ISN'T ANYTHING LIKE THAT. [00:40:01] THAT'S, UH, MORE OF A MANUFACTURING METAL BUILDING, NOT REAL CLEAN THAT DOES HAVE ACCESS ON THE NEEDLE POINT ROAD. I'M NOT, I THAT'S NOT FOR SALE. I'M NOT BUYING THAT. BUT NOTHING THAT WE'RE BUILDING IS GONNA LOOK LIKE THAT OR ACT LIKE THAT YOU ASK FOR THOSE TRUCKS. JUST ONE OTHER QUESTION. YES SIR. THE, THIS WILL BE A STORAGE FACILITY. DISTRIBUTION IS WHAT WE TECHNICALLY CALL YES. THE CLEAR HEIGHTS WILL BE ANYWHERE FROM EITHER 36 FEET TALL TO 40 FEET TALL, WHICH, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THESE E-COMMERCE TYPE USERS, YOU KNOW, THAT, THAT HAVE COME ON. THAT'S, THAT'S GENERALLY, I, I CAN'T IMAGINE ANY OTHER TYPE USER, UH, UH, DESIRING THIS KIND OF SPACE. AND THEY'LL TYPICALLY BE ONE OR TWO TENANT BUILDINGS. IT'S NOT GONNA BE BROKEN UP AND HAVE 10 DIFFERENT COMPANIES IN THE BUILDINGS. OKAY. SO THE ONLY OTHER QUE AND THE REASON WHY I ASKED THAT QUESTION IS YOU MAY NOT GET ANSWER THIS AT THE TIME. THERE WON'T BE ANY TYPE OF HAZARDS OF MATERIALS STORED THERE. WW THEI ZONING IS, UH, DEALS WITH THAT SPECIFICALLY AND WE AS AN OWNERSHIP, UH, AND AGAIN, THE, THE TYPE OF OWNERSHIP THAT WILL BE PARTNERING WITH US OR THE MAJOR INSURANCE COMPANIES, PENSION FUNDS, THEY DON'T LIKE LIABILITY AND DOING THINGS. BUT, BUT THEI ZONING EVEN HAS RESTRICTIONS ON THAT. BUT NO. AND AND THE ONLY REASON, YOU KNOW, IF SOMEBODY'S GOT A LITTLE BIT OF, YOU KNOW, INK TONER FOR YEAH. YOU KNOW, A PRINTER OUT ELSE YEAH. I'M TALKING ABOUT INDUSTRIAL TYPE. YEAH, NO. SOMETHING THAT MIGHT, WOULD LEAK AND AFFECT THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE THAT AREA. I, I THINK I'M CORRECT IN SAYING THEI ZONING DOESN'T SUPPORT THAT AT ALL. OKAY. BUT THAT'S NOT, YEAH, THANK YOU. NO, WE'RE NOT BUILDING IT FOR THAT KIND OF REQUIREMENT. OKAY. YOU GOT ANOTHER ONE? YEAH, JUST ONE LAST THING. SO OBVIOUSLY THESE DETENTION PONDS WILL SERVE WELL TO KEEP THE NEIGHBORHOOD BEHIND IT FROM FLOODING. THAT'S A GIVEN. BUT I THINK ONE OF THE CONCERNS WAS IS THAT ONE, IF IT IS APPROVED, CAN THE CONFIGURATION BE CHANGED UP AND NOW ALL OF A SUDDEN, INSTEAD OF BEING AT TWO DETENTION PONDS, ARE THERE BUILDINGS THERE? GOT IT. WELL, AND I AND BEN ONE IS THAT PIPELINE CAN'T BE MOVED. SO THAT'S A GOOD THING. WE, WE'VE GOT A RESTRICTION THAT WE WANT TO, IF WE WERE TO BUILD THERE, WE WOULD HAVE NO PLACE TO PUT THE WATER FOR ANYTHING ELSE. THE GOOD NEWS, THIS WILL BE DONE IN PHASES, BUT THE VERY FIRST PHASE IS THE DETENTION POND AND THE 34 ACRES THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. WE WILL BUILD THAT AS SOON AS WE CLOSE AND GET A PERMIT TO BUILD THAT, THAT NEEDS TO BE THE FIRST THING BUILT. 'CAUSE WE'VE GOTTA HAVE THE WATER DRAINING EVEN BEFORE WE GRADE THE PROPERTY AND START GETTING IT, IT GOING THERE. YOU KNOW, I CAN'T MAKE ANY GUARANTEES IN TERMS OF DRAINAGE. I THINK THERE HAVE BEEN SOME DRAINAGE ISSUES IN THE AREA. I CAN TELL YOU THAT THIS PROPERTY SHOULD, IT, IT, IT SHOULD BE NET ZERO AND IMPROVEMENT TO ALL THE SURROUNDING AREAS WITH THE DRAINAGE THAT, THAT, THAT HAVE BEEN DONE. AND I CAN MAKE THAT, I, I NORMALLY DON'T MAKE A STATEMENT LIKE THAT, BUT GIVEN THE WAY THE WATER IS BEING TRAPPED NOW AND THE WAY THAT WE'RE GONNA BE DIRECTING IT, IT SHOULD BE AN IMPROVEMENT TO THE AREA FOR THESE HEAVY STORMS THAT WE HAVE. UH, IT JUST, YOU KNOW, AND, AND GOOD NEWS IS HARRIS COUNTY CONTINUES TO STRENGTHEN THEIR REQUIREMENTS AND SO THIS WILL BE BUILT UNDER THE CURRENT REQUIREMENTS EVEN MORE STRINGENT THAN A PRE HARVEY REQUIREMENT WOULD'VE BEEN ANYONE ELSE? THANK YOU, SIR. THANK YOU FOR LISTENING TO US. APPRECIATE IT. I'M NOT SURE I KNOW HOW TO GET THAT OFF. SO , HAVING NO ONE ELSE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON THIS ISSUE. WE'LL CLOSE THIS PUBLIC HEARING AND MOVE TO FIVE [f. Consider making a recommendation concerning a proposed amendment to the official zoning map to rezone approximately 34.07 acres, generally located east of Sjolander Road and south of E IH 10 from Open Space/Recreation (OR) to Light Industrial (LI) Zoning District. ] F CONSIDER MAKING A RECOMMENDATION CONCERNING A PROPOSED AMENDMENT TO THE OFFICIAL ZONING MAP TO REZONE APPROXIMATELY 34.07 ACRES. GENERALLY LOCATED EAST OF SHO ROAD AND SOUTH OF EAST INTERSTATE, HIGHWAY 10 FROM OPEN SPACE RECREATION TO LIGHT INDUSTRIAL. THIS IS FOR THE PREVIOUSLY DISCUSSED, UH, ITEM, UM, STAFF, UH, HAS AN, UH, ANALYZED THIS AREA AND WE DO RECOMMEND APPROVAL. THANK YOU. I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS. ANYBODY HAVE OTHER QUESTIONS? DO I HEAR A MOTION? MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE. HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE. DO WE HEAR A SECOND? SECOND. HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE INDICATE BY SAYING AYE. AYE. THOSE OPPOSED LIKE, SIGN. MOTION CARRIES. [00:45:05] OUR NEXT IS 5G. [g. Conduct the first public hearing concerning a request to amend the official zoning map to rezone approximately 5.46 acres generally located south of Tompkins Drive and west of North SH 146 from General Commercial (GC) to Medium Density Mixed Residential (MF1) Zoning District.] CONDUCT THE FIRST PUBLIC HEARING CONCERNING A REQUEST TO AMEND THE OFFICIAL ZONING MAP TO REZONE APPROXIMATELY 5.46 ACRES. GENERALLY LOCATED SOUTH OF TOMPKINS DRIVE AND WEST OF NORTH STATE HIGHWAY 1 46. FROM GENERAL COMMERCIAL TO MEDIUM DENSITY MIXED RESIDENTIAL ZONING DISTRICT. HELLO THERE. GOOD EVENING AGAIN. BOARD. UM, THIS ITEM WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED IS, UM, JUST WEST OF 1 46 SOUTH OF TOMPKINS DRIVE NORTH OF MASSEY TOMPKINS. AND WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING IS TO REZONE FROM GENERAL COMMERCIAL TO MULTIFAMILY ONE. UM, WHAT THIS MEANS IS, UM, SORRY. SO THIS IS THE, THE FLUKE, THE FUTURE LAND USE PLAN. AND AS YOU CAN SEE, THE RED IS COMMERCIAL CORRIDOR AND THEN THE, THE TAN IS LOW TO MEDIUM DONE SIG RESIDENTIAL. SO IT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE FUTURE LAND USE PLAN. UM, THAT'S WHAT THE ZONING WOULD LOOK LIKE IF IT WERE APPROVED. AND, UM, WE'VE GOTTEN QUITE A FEW, UM, COMMENTS AND SO A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING. UM, OBVIOUSLY THIS CAN CHANGE MULTIFAMILY ONE WILL ACTUALLY ALLOW FOR UP TO 15 UNITS PER ACRE. WHAT'S CURRENTLY BEING PROPOSED IS 39 SINGLE FAMILY TOWN HOMES, WHICH IS APPROXIMATELY EIGHT UNITS PER ACRE. UM, WE'VE RECEIVED SOME COMMENTS THROUGH, UH, PHONE CALLS AND EMAILS. UM, RIGHT NOW WE'VE GOT TWO THAT OBJECT, BUT WE'LL PROVIDE THOSE COMMENTS AT THE NEXT MEETING. UM, DO Y'ALL HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? ARE THESE TOWN HOMES AS IN RENTAL TOWN HOMES? YES, IT'S BEING PROPOSED AS ONE LOT, NOT SEPARATED AS INDIVIDUALLY, BUT FOR RENTALS. OKAY. THANK YOU THERE. QUESTIONS, STAFF? OKAY. WE HAVE A NUMBER OF PEOPLE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK TO THIS ITEM. UH, AND WE WILL BEGIN WITH THANK YOU QUESTION. DIANE, I CAN'T READ YOUR LAST NAME. OH, MANUEL MANUEL. UM, WOULD YOU PLEASE COME TO THE MICROPHONE AND IDENTIFY YOURSELF AND GIVE YOUR ADDRESS? YES, GOOD EVENING. UH, MY NAME IS, UH, DEE DIANE MANUEL. I'M ON, UH, 3 9 0 6 CANTERBURY DRIVE, UH, OVER THERE IN KINGS BEND. I JUST HAD, UH, UH, SEVERAL QUESTIONS, UH, CONCERNS. UM, I WONDERED, UH, GIVEN THE, THE CURRENT, YOU KNOW, UH, PROPOSAL, WHAT THAT WOULD MEAN IN TERMS OF, UH, TOTAL NUMBER OF POSSIBLE OCCUPANTS PER DWELLING. UH, YOU KNOW, THE MAXIMUM NUMBER OF OCCUPANTS PER, PER DWELLING WHEN, WHEN IT ALL PANS OUT. UH, UH, ALSO, UH, I'M, I AM, UH, THERE'S A LOT GOING ON OVER THERE. THERE'S, UH, THE CEDAR BAYOU NAVIGATION, UH, UH, DISTRICT GOING ON THERE AT KERRY BAYOU AND, UH, CEDAR BAYOU. UH, YOU KNOW, THAT WHOLE WIDENING THING, UH, THERE'S A POTENTIAL FOR FLOODING FROM THAT. UH, AND ALSO IF, IN IN VIEW OF WHAT YOU GUYS, UH, ARE, ARE CONSIDERING NOW, UH, FOR THIS APPLICATION, I'M WONDERING, UM, IN THE WHOLE PROCESS OF RE DESIGNATING THIS, UH, UH, AS A NEW ZONING, UH, UNDER A NEW ZONING NAME, THE MF ONE, WHAT KINDS OF CONSIDERATIONS ARE, ARE GOING INTO OR COULD GO INTO THE POSSIBILITY OF, UH, THE NEW CONSTRUCTION FLOODING THE NEIGHBORHOOD BEHIND THERE? BECAUSE, UM, UH, I'M IMAGINING THEY, THEY WOULD HAVE TO, UH, YOU KNOW, ELEVATE IT BEFORE THEY BUILD. I SAW THE RETENTION POND, BUT THAT LOOKS TO BE ON, UH, THE OTHER SIDE, , WHAT I WOULD CONSIDER THE WRONG SIDE, UM, CONSIDERING THE, UH, YOU KNOW, WHERE, WHERE WE LIVE. SO THAT, THAT'S PRETTY MUCH IT, UH, FOR ME. THANK YOU, MA'AM. THANK YOU. THANK YOU MADAM. UH, CHAIRMAN IS THAT, IF, IF THERE ARE SOME QUESTIONS, WE, WE'LL TAKE THOSE QUESTIONS DOWN AND THEN WE'LL ADDRESS THEM AT THE END BEFORE WE MOVE ON. WOULD THAT BE OKAY? YEAH. OKAY. THANK YOU. PHIL GIBSON. [00:50:10] PHIL GIBSON, 36 0 4 TOMPKINS. GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS. UM, I HAVE TALKED, I JUST FOUND OUT ABOUT THIS ON A TELEPHONE CONVERSATION THIS MORNING WITH THE CITY, SO EXCUSE ME FOR NOT HAVING AS MUCH HOMEWORK DONE AS I'D LIKE TO HAVE. BUT IN JUST CONTACTING 10 PROPERTY OWNERS TODAY IN KINGS BEND, I DID NOT HAVE ONE THAT SAID, OH, THAT'S A GOOD IDEA. , EVERYBODY WAS NEGATIVE ON THIS. UM, THE LOT SIZES FOR THE TOWN HOMES, I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT SIZE THOSE LOTS ARE. I KNOW THERE'S A MINIMUM LOT SIZE IN THE CITY ORDINANCE, BUT SINCE THIS IS ALL LISTED AS ONE LOT, I DON'T KNOW WHETHER THAT APPLIES OR NOT. UM, WE ALSO HAVE A LONG TOMPKINS DRIVE, A MAJOR TRAFFIC AREA THERE. YOU HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT GO FROM 1 46 TO RACCOON DRIVE AND IT CREATES A MAJOR TRAFFIC ADDING THIS NUMBER OF ADDITIONAL RESIDENCES IN THAT TYPE OF AN AREA. IT'S JUST GOING TO ADD TO THAT. I HAPPEN TO BE AT THE MIDDLE STOP SIGN ON TOMPKINS AND I HAVE FOUR DIFFERENT AGES OF CHILDREN OUT THERE IN DURING THE WEEK WAITING FOR SCHOOL BUSES. AND I HAVE SEEN NUMEROUS TIMES PEOPLE IGNORING THE STOP SIGNS THERE AND JUST GOING RIGHT THROUGH IT. THIS IS JUST GOING TO ADD TO THAT PROBLEM. UM, WE SEE THAT THERE IS DETENTION THERE. HOW DOES THAT DETENTION GET OVER TO, I'M ASSUMING CEDAR BAYOU IS WHERE IT WOULD BE DRAINED TO, YOU KNOW, UH, THERE'S A PARK PLANNED OVER THERE. I DON'T KNOW WHETHER IT'S GOING THROUGH THE CITY'S PROPERTY OR HOW THAT WATER GETS OUT AT THE PRESENT TIME. ON THE, UM, THROUGH THE MIDDLE OF THE SUBDIVISION, THERE IS A WATER SPILLWAY THAT'S DOWN THERE, CONCRETED IN THE GROUND FROM THAT AREA, SLOPES BASICALLY DOWNWARDS TO THAT AREA. AND THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN THAT FARTHER SIDE ALREADY HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE SEWAGE. IT BACKS UP CONSISTENTLY THERE. THE SEWAGE FOR KINGS BEND IS NOT ADEQUATE TO CONTINUE TO TAKE IN THIS MANY MORE RESIDENTS IN THAT AREA. AND THAT'S JUST GOING TO ADD TO THE PROBLEM HAS THERE, HAS THE CITY CHECKED ON THE DEVELOPER THAT'S DOING THIS TO SEE ANY OTHER PROJECTS THAT THEY DID AND HOW THEY'RE WORKING OUT BEING A, YOU KNOW, HIGH DENSITY TYPE AREA. AND I WOULD JUST ASK THE COMMISSIONERS TO, UM, PROTECT THE PEOPLE OF THE RESIDENTS OF KINGS BEND AND NOT ALLOW THIS PROJECT TO GO FORWARD. AND HOPEFULLY AT THE END NATHAN CAN ANSWER SOME OF THE QUESTIONS. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER. THANK YOU. PRESTON HILL. UH, HELLO. MY NAME IS PRESTON HILL. I LIVE AT 39 11 CANTERBURY AND UH, I ACTUALLY LIVE RIGHT HERE ON THIS. MY PROPERTY TOUCHES THIS AND I'M THE CORNER HOUSE ON THAT STREET AND I WILL VOUCH FOR EVERYTHING THAT MAN JUST SAID. I HAVE A SERIOUS TRAFFIC PROBLEM IN FRONT OF MY HOUSE. I CAN SIT THERE IN MY FRONT YARD. I HAVE A 2-YEAR-OLD LITTLE BOY AND I CAN WATCH CARS RUN THAT STOP SIGN DOING 45 MILES AN HOUR ALL DAY LONG. CAN'T GET THE CITY TO COME OUT AND SIT THERE FOR A WHILE THERE. WE HAD A POLICE OFFICER WOULD SIT THERE BACK DOWN THE STREET ABOUT THREE HOUSES AND PULL PEOPLE OVER AND HE'D MEET MONTHLY QUOTA. AND THE FIRST HOUR HE'D SIT THERE AS SOON AS HE TURNED AROUND AND MAKE THE SECOND, UH, THE MAKE THE TURNAROUND AND COME BACK AND SIT RIGHT THERE. HE'D GET ANOTHER ONE ALL DAY LONG. AND I HAVE FIVE KIDS THAT HAVE A BUS STOP IN MY FRONT YARD. ALL ELEMENTARY SCHOOL KIDS AND THAT, THAT'S A PROBLEM. IT'S BEEN A PROBLEM I'VE LIVED IN FOR 15 YEARS AND MY PARENTS OWN THAT HOUSE AND I BOUGHT THAT HOUSE FROM MY PARENTS. FLOODING ISS ANOTHER ISSUE THAT, THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY IS THE HIGH POINT IN THE AREA. AND WE'RE ALL WORRIED THAT WHEN YOU BUILD THAT UP, BECAUSE THE CITY RAISED THE, UH, ELEVATION OF THAT AREA TO WHERE IF YOU BUILD, YOU HAVE TO BUILD THE 20 FOOT. MY HOME SITS AT 18, SO THEY HAVE TO BUILD THEIR PROPERTIES UP TO 20 FOOT. I'M NOW TWO FOOT BELOW THEM. THEY DRAIN TO ME AND MY PROPERTY TOUCHES THEIRS. SO THAT'S AN ISSUE THAT I'M CONCERNED WITH PERSONALLY. UM, IF YOU GO BACK TO GOOGLE EARTH AND YOU CAN LOOK AT THAT PARTICULAR PIECE OF PROPERTY, YOU CAN SCROLL ALL THE WAY BACK TO 1944. THERE WAS NOTHING THERE. 1953, THERE'S SEVEN OIL TANKS AND A PUMP JACK. THERE'S [00:55:01] A BLOCKED IN OIL WELL SITTING IN THE MIDDLE OF THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY. UM, PREVIOUS, UH, I, I I SHOULDN'T SAY PREVIOUS OWNERS, BUT PAST PEOPLE HAVE TRIED TO WORK OUT THERE AND THEY'VE DONE, I'VE WATCHED 'EM DIG UP NUMBERS, PIPELINES THAT HAVE RUN THROUGH THAT PROPERTY. I DON'T KNOW THAT IT'S NECESSARILY SAFE FOR RESIDENTIAL HOUSING TO LIVE THERE. HAVE A LITTLE KID IN THEIR BACKYARD DIGGING THROUGH SOME HAZARDOUS WASTE THAT SOMEBODY SWEPT UNDER THE RUG 40 YEARS AGO. I THINK THAT'S A CONSIDERABLE ISSUE. UH, THE UTILITIES IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD ARE 51 YEARS OLD. THE, UH, THE WATER LINES ARE TWO INCH WATER LINES THAT SUPPLY THE WHOLE NEIGHBORHOOD. I CONSISTENTLY HAVE LOW PRESSURE WATER AT MY HOME AND YOU'RE GONNA TIE IN 40 MORE PIECES OR 40 MORE HOMES SO THAT, THAT'S GONNA POSE AN ISSUE. SEWAGE IS AN ISSUE, JUST LIKE THE GENTLEMAN JUST SAID. YOU CAN GO TO HOLLOWAY PARK DOWN AT, UH, AT THE END OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THERE'S A LIFT STATION THERE. THAT THING BACKS UP ALL THE TIME AND WHEN IT RAINS HARD ENOUGH, IT POURS RAW SEWAGE STRAIGHT INTO CEDAR BAYOU. ALRIGHT? TECHNICALLY IT'S CARRIED BAYOU, SO THERE'S AN ISSUE THERE. UM, I ALSO HAVE A PROBLEM WITH, UH, IT BEING CLASSIFIED AS MF ONE, SF TWO IS WHAT MY NEIGHBORHOOD IS ONE HOUSE, OR BASICALLY QUARTER ACRE LOTS. THIS WOULD ALLOW FOR 15 HOMES PER ACRE, WHICH IF THEY WANT TO, THEY COULD RECONFIGURE IT ALL THE WAY UP TO 80 HOMES ONCE THEY GET APPROVAL FOR THAT ZONING. I WOULD BE MUCH MORE COMFORTABLE WITH AN SF SF TWO, WHICH IS SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL THAT WILL ALLOW UP TO NINE HOMES, NOT 15, JUST MY PERSONAL OPINION THERE. BUT I ASK YOU IF YOU LIVE THERE AND YOU HAD A LITTLE BOY AND YOU ALREADY HAD TRAFFIC PROBLEM AND EVERYTHING ELSE WITH THAT, UH, EXCUSE MY TIME ZONE, BUT WOULD YOU WANT THAT IN YOUR BACKYARD? THANK YOU, SIR. SHARON GUNN? NO, HE DOES. OKAY. THANK YOU. THESE ARE BOTH MY NEIGHBORS RIGHT HERE. THEY LIVE ACROSS THE STREET. OKAY. JERRY GAINOR, THERE YOU ARE. HI, MY NAME'S JERRY GAINOR. I'M THE PRESIDENT OF HUTCHISON AND ASSOCIATES. UH, WE'RE THE DESIGN ENGINEER ON THE PROJECT. UH, BO COX IS THE DEVELOPER. UM, HE'S OWNED THIS PROPERTY FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS. UH, HE DID THE, UH, WALGREENS, WE DID THE ENGINEERING ON THE WALGREENS THAT'S, UH, JUST ON THE SOUTHEAST SIDE OF THIS PROPERTY. UM, IT, UH, WE HAD THE, WE HAD THE FINISHED FLOOR SET ON THE WALGREENS, UH, AT THE RIGHT ELEVATION 'CAUSE IT DIDN'T FLOOD IN HARVEY. UM, ON THE PREVIOUS PROJECT, I'D LIKE TO TALK TO Y'ALL ABOUT THE, THE ELEVATIONS. SORRY, I DIGRESS. BUT I, I LIVE ON MCGEE GULLY AND I HAVE ACREAGE IN MY HOUSE. IT'S JUST SOUTH OF YOUR PROJECT, AND I HAVE A GREAT DEAL OF INFORMATION ABOUT WHERE YOU SHOULD SET YOUR FINISHED FLOOR. SO ANYWAY, PARDON, PARDON THAT, UM, THIS, THIS SITE WOULD BE DEVELOPED. UM, OBVIOUSLY THEY TALKED ABOUT TRAFFIC AND SAID PEOPLE ARE RUNNING THROUGH THE STOP SIGN AT 45 MILES AN HOUR. WELL, THE PEOPLE THAT WOULD BE LIVING HERE WOULD NOT BE DOING THAT BECAUSE THEY'D BE TURNING IN. SO I DON'T THINK IT'S CREATING A TRAFFIC ISSUE. OBVIOUSLY YOU'RE GONNA HAVE SOME SORT OF DEVELOPMENT THERE. UH, IT'S UP TO Y'ALL TO DECIDE IF YOU'RE GONNA APPROVE THE ZONING. BUT, UM, FROM A DRAINAGE STANDPOINT, UH, THERE'S A GREAT DEAL OF ELEVATION DROP BETWEEN THIS PROPERTY AND CEDAR B LIKE BASICALLY 20 FEET. UH, SO WE HAVE, WE HAVE THE ELEVATION TO WORK WITH, UH, THE DRAINAGE GOES TO CEDAR BIO NOW IT GOES ALONG TOMPKINS OVER TO STATE HIGHWAY 1 46 AND THEN DOWN THROUGH STORM PIPES, UH, TO THAT ELEVATION. THE DETENTION POND WOULD BE A DEEP POND AND WE WOULD BE GETTING, UH, ACCESS OVER IN THE, THE, UH, TEX DOT RIGHT OF WAY OR BESIDE THE TEXDOT, RIGHT OF AWAY HE'D BE NEGOTIATING, UH, TO GET A DRAINAGE PATH TO GET TO THE BIO. UH, THERE'S CERTAINLY A LOT OF ENGINEERING THAT HAS TO BE DONE, BUT THIS IS A, A PROJECT THAT, THAT CAN BE DONE AND CAN BE AN ASSET. UM, ON THE QUESTION ABOUT HOW MANY PEOPLE WOULD BE LIVING IN THIS COMMUNITY, I MEAN, IT'S SMALL RENTAL UNITS, UM, YOU KNOW, YOUR SINGLE FAMILY HOUSE, YOU MIGHT HAVE THREE TO FIVE PEOPLE IN A HOUSE. UM, HERE, YOU KNOW, I'D EXPECT AN AVERAGE OF PROBABLY TWO. SOME HOUSES MIGHT HAVE FOUR AND SOME MIGHT HAVE ONE. AND SO, YOU KNOW, COULD BE TWO, TWO AND A HALF ON AVERAGE. UM, ANYWAY, THE SITE, THE SITE CLEARLY HAS GOOD DRAINAGE. UH, CITY UTILITIES, IF THERE'S PROBLEMS WITH THE CITY SEWER SYSTEM, CITY NEEDS TO FIX THAT. THAT'S, THAT'S, YOU KNOW, THE CITY'S SUPPOSED TO PROVIDE UTILITIES FOR THE PROPERTY WITHIN THE CITY. AND IF THERE'S SOME ISSUE THERE, THEN THAT, THAT'S, THAT [01:00:01] NEEDS TO BE TAKEN CARE OF REGARDLESS OF THIS PROJECT. UM, SO ANYWAY, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS. I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AS FAR AS THE PROJECT AND TO, UH, HELP Y'ALL MAKE YOUR DECISION. COMMISSIONERS YOU HAVE QUESTIONS, DONNA? UM, THE HOMEOWNER MENTIONED SOMETHING ABOUT, UH, TANKS, UH, FORMERLY HAVING TANKS ON THE PROPERTY. UH, HAS AN ENVIRONMENTAL BEEN DONE OR IS IT CLEAR? IS IT CLEAN? ENVIRONMENTAL? I THINK THE, THE OWNER HAS AN ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT, UH, PHASE ONE. AND I, I HAVE NOT SEEN ANY OIL WELLS ON THERE. UH, THAT TO MY KNOWLEDGE THERE'S NO PIPELINES ON THE PROPERTY, SO I DON'T, I KNOW THERE'S BEEN PREVIOUS DEVELOPMENT, UH, BUT WE DON'T, I DON'T KNOW OF ANYTHING. I MEAN, WE'LL DO FURTHER INVESTIGATIONS, BUT COMMISSIONER, WE WOULDN'T TYPICALLY REQUIRE THAT SORT OF THING UNTIL WE GET AFTER THE REONE. THANK YOU. OTHER QUESTIONS? ARE THERE, THE ENTRANCES AND EXITS GONNA BE ON TOMPKINS? YES. OKAY. ANYONE ELSE? NATHAN? WE HAD A NUMBER OF QUESTIONS. YES, SURE. DETENTION WAS ONE OF THOSE. WELL, LUCKILY WE DO HAVE AN ENGINE HERE THAT IS GREAT AT DETENTION QUESTIONS. SO, UM, I THINK, I THINK MR. GAINOR SAID, UH, AND AGAIN, I THINK WHAT, UH, IRWIN SAID BEFORE IS THAT THEY'LL HAVE TO CAPTURE ALL OF THEIR STORM WATER ON SITE AND THEN IT WILL HAVE TO BE, UH, RELEASED AT A POST-DEVELOPMENT OR PRE-DEVELOPMENT FLOW INTO, INTO, UH, THE CLOSEST DRAINAGE FACILITY, WHICH PROBABLY WILL BE KERRY CREEK. I, I WOULD ASSUME. AND AS, UH, AS MR. GAINOR SAID, THEY'LL HAVE TO FIND, UH, A WAY TO GIVE TO, UH, FIND A PATH THERE AND, UH, THEY'LL HAVE TO GO THROUGH TDOT AND THAT WILL BE UP TO THE OWNER TO DO AT THAT PARTICULAR TIME. AND THEN STAFF WOULD LOOK AT ALL OF THOSE AND, AND MAKING SURE THAT THAT WOULD MEET ALL OF THE MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS. AND AGAIN, AS STATED BEFORE, IS THAT WE MEET, UH, HARRIS COUNTY'S REQUIREMENT FOR ALL DETENTION, UM, USAGE AND PURPOSES WITHIN THE CITY OF BAYTOWN. THANK YOU. NOW, REGARDING THE NUMBER OF OCCUPANTS PER DWELLING, WE DO NOT, WE DO NOT GOVERN THAT. SO WE COULD NOT TELL YOU THAT IT'S GONNA BE 2 3, 1, 5, 6. I THINK THE SIZE OF THE PROPERTY AND THE SIZE OF THE STRUCTURE WILL, WILL PRETTY MUCH DETERMINE HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE GONNA BE ABLE TO LIVE THERE. BUT WE DO NOT, AGAIN, THE CITY DOES NOT DETERMINE THE NUMBER OF OCCUPANTS IN EACH DWELLING. UM, I THINK WE TALKED ABOUT THE FLOODING ISSUE. UM, IT DEFINITELY WILL NEED TO BE ELEVATED AS BUT PREVIOUSLY STATED, UM, AND I'M NOT SURE WHAT THAT WILL BE, BUT AGAIN, THAT WILL BE REVIEWED AT THE TIME OF CONSTRUCTION TO ENSURE THAT IT MEETS ALL OF, UM, OUR MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS AT THIS TIME. UH, THE PROPERTY OWNERS, AND, AND AGAIN, I THINK MR. GIBSON BROUGHT THIS UP, THE PROPERTY OWNERS THAT ARE ADJACENT, AND THIS IS ONE OF THE REASONS WHY WE DO HAVE THIS PUBLIC, PUBLIC HEARING PROCESS IS FOR EVERYONE TO BE INVOLVED IN IT. SO, UM, WE ENCOURAGE NOT ONLY YOU, BUT YOUR OTHER PROPERTY OWNERS TO COME OUT HERE AND BE A PART OF THE PROCESS SO THEY CAN VOICE THEIR CONCERNS AND WE CAN HAVE A, UM, A GOOD INTERACTION LIKE THIS TO ANSWER ANY OF YOUR QUESTIONS. ONE LAST QUICK QUESTION, IF I MAY. I'M SORRY. INTERRUPT YOU. SO, UM, THIS IS GONNA BE A 20 FEE. IT'S GONNA BE ELEVATED, THE HOUSES ARE AT 18, AND I HEARD YOU SAY ALL THE WATER IS GONNA STAY ON YOUR PROPERTY ON THIS. Y YES. THE DEVELOPED WATER ON THIS PROPERTY WILL DRAIN TO THE DETENTION POND NOT TOWARD, AND JUST LIKE THE ADJACENT SUBDIVISION DRAINS OUT TO IT'S, UH, ROADWAY, THE STREETS IN FRONT OF THE HOUSES, THEIR WATER'S SUPPOSED TO DRAIN TO THOSE STREETS. AND SO OUR WATER'S NOT SUPPOSED TO GO ON THEM. THEIR WATER'S NOT SUPPOSED TO GO ON THIS PROPERTY. AND AGAIN, MS. WINFREY, THAT WILL BE ALL THE, SORRY. YEAH, YEAH, NO WORRIES. UM, THE LOT SIZE, UH, THE LOT SIZE IS FOR THE TOWN HOMES. UM, THEY'RE PROPOSING DEVELOPMENT FOR ONE LOT, SO THERE WON'T BE A LOT SIZE. THE WHOLE THING IS ONE LOT UNDERSTOOD. AND, BUT THE DENSITY REQUIREMENT STILL STANDS, AND SO THEY CAN GO UP TO 15 UNITS PER ACRE. MM-HMM . AND SO WHAT WE, WHAT WE DETERMINE FROM WHAT THEY'RE DOING, UH, THUS FAR WITH 39 LOTS, IT IS ROUGHLY ABOUT EIGHT UNITS PER ACRE. AND SO THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE, THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING. UM, THE GENTLEMAN THAT, THAT BROUGHT UP THE UNITS PER ACRE BEFORE AT 15 UNITS PER ACRE AT SIX, OR ROUGHLY FIVE AND A HALF ACRES, YOU'RE RIGHT, IF YOU WERE TO TIMES FIVE ACRES BY 15, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE LOOKING AT EIGHT, ALMOST 80, 80 UNITS. 80 UNITS, UNITS. BUT YOU HAVE TO ALSO REMEMBER IS THAT YOU HAVE TO BUILD THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT GOES ALONG WITH IT, RIGHT? SO YOU HAVE TO BUILD THE STREETS, THE DETENTION. AND SO THAT'S ALL GOING TO FACTOR INTO WHAT [01:05:01] ACTUALLY CAN BE DONE ON THE PROPERTY. SO IT WILL DEFINITELY NEVER GET TO 80 UNITS PER ACRE. UM, IT MIGHT BE ABLE TO BE SOMETHING A LITTLE BIT LARGER, BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THE PREVIOUS, UM, SITE PLAN, IT'S KIND OF PACKED IN THERE. I DON'T THINK YOU'RE GONNA GET ANY, ANY MORE, UM, AT THIS PARTICULAR TIME. AND AGAIN, THIS IS, THIS PLAN MIGHT NOT BE THE FINAL PLAN THAT'S, THAT'S, UH, APPROVED EITHER WAY. SO, UM, TRAFFIC ISSUES AND, AND MAYBE ERWIN YOU WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO THIS, BUT AGAIN, IT'S GONNA BE ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO GET A TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS IN THIS AREA. UM, SO WE'LL, WE'LL BE ASKING FOR THAT AT THE TIME. IF THEY WERE TO BE APPROVED, THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE, UM, VIEWED FROM STAFF'S PERSPECTIVE, UM, REGARDING PEOPLE GOING THROUGH STOP SIGNS. UH, WHAT I WAS GONNA RECOMMEND TOO IS THAT IT SOUNDS LIKE THAT IS A POLICE ISSUE, AND WE CAN HELP YOU WITH THAT. I'D BE HAPPY TO GET YOUR NAME AND NUMBER AND WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT SOMEBODY, UM, WITHIN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IS AWARE OF THAT AND, AND MAKING SURE THAT THEY, THEY KNOW THAT IT IS A CURRENT ISSUE. UM, THE SEWER, THE SEWER ISSUES, THOSE AGAIN, WILL BE REVIEWED AND DETERMINED THROUGH ENGINEERING AND PUBLIC WORKS. AND SO THEY'LL HAVE TO LOOK AT THAT IF THERE IS A CURRENT ISSUE. I DO HAVE A NOTATION HERE TO ENSURE THAT, UM, PUBLIC WORKS IS AWARE THAT THERE SEEMS TO BE A CURRENT, UH, AN ISSUE WITH THE LIFT STATION OVER THERE. SO, WE'LL, WE AS STAFF WILL MAKE SURE THAT THE APPROPRIATE DEPARTMENT GETS THAT INFORMATION AND WE'LL GO FROM THERE. UM, DID I THINK MR. GAINOR, UM, DID BRING UP SOME OF THE CREDENTIALS FOR MR. COX, UM, IN HIS PREVIOUS DEVELOPMENT? I'M NOT SURE OF EVERY SINGLE, UM, DEVELOPMENT, BUT I KNOW MR. MR. COX HAS DEVELOPED A LARGE NUMBER OF PROPERTIES HERE WITHIN THE CITY OF BAYTOWN. UM, I'M NOT SURE OF THE PIPELINES. AGAIN, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD LOOK AT AT A FURTHER DATE. IF, IF THERE WERE PIPELINES, WE WOULD MAKE SURE THAT WE WOULD LOOK AT THAT. UM, USUALLY WITH THE PIPELINE THERE IS LIMITED, UM, ALLOWANCES OF BUILDING ON TOP OF A PIPELINE. SO IF THERE WERE PIPELINES THAT WERE, UH, WENT THROUGH THERE, THERE WOULD BE EASEMENTS THAT WOULD RESTRICT ANY SORT OF DEVELOPMENT ON TOP OF THAT. UM, I THINK I, THAT'S ALL THE QUESTIONS I WROTE DOWN. I THINK I GOT THEM ALL. MR. SCRIBNER, DO YOU HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL, I I JUST WANTED TO REMIND EVERYONE THAT, AND, AND ESPECIALLY FOR THOSE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT REMEMBER THAT THIS IS ALREADY ZONED FOR GENERAL COMMERCIAL. SO, UM, I KNOW THAT THIS COMMISSION HAS DEALT WITH SOME REZONED REQUESTS TO GENERAL COMMERCIAL IN THE RECENT PAST. SO YOU KNOW THAT THAT DOES ALLOW FOR SOME, UH, FOR OUR MOST INTENSIVE COMMERCIAL USES. SO THAT'S WHAT IT'S ALLOWED FOR NOW. SO WE DON'T EXPECT THAT TO STAY, UM, VACANT FOREVER. AS OF RIGHT NOW, WHAT IS ALLOWED IS COMMERCIAL, NOTHING RESIDENTIAL IS ALLOWED IN THAT AREA AT THIS TIME. SO, UM, THIS IS REALLY, UH, WE COULD CATEGORIZE THIS AS A DOWN ZONE, UM, AND WE AS STAFF FROM A PLANNING STANDPOINT, BECAUSE THERE IS STILL SOME COMMERCIAL THAT'S ALONG THAT SORT OF SOUTHEASTERN CORNER, UM, THIS DOES MAKE A, A BIT OF A, A RESIDENTIAL BUFFER BETWEEN THAT, THAT COMMERCIAL AND THE EXISTING RESIDENTIAL. SO JUST SOMETHING TO KEEP IN MIND AS YOU'RE LOOKING AT IT, REMEMBER WHAT IT IS AND WHAT THEY'RE REQUIRING OR WHAT THEY'RE REQUESTING. SO DID YOU WANT TO ADD SOMETHING ABOUT, I WANTED TO ADD ABOUT THE INFRASTRUCTURE ON THE PROPERTY? CURRENTLY, CURRENTLY, OUR GIS SHOWS THAT THERE IS STORM WATER AND WATER LINES ON THE PROPERTY. THOSE MAY NEED TO BE RELOCATED OR SOMETHING NEEDS TO HAPPEN WITH THEM WHEN THEY DEVELOP. SO THAT'S WHAT'S UNDERGROUND RIGHT NOW IS SOME STORM WATER AND WATER LINES. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS MR. GAINER? I THINK WE MISSED ONE SPEAKER. UH, LILLIAN SOCKWELL. GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS. I DIDN'T KNOW HOW ELSE TO ADDRESS Y'ALL. I GUESS THAT'S HOW, UH, MY NAME IS LILLIAN SOCKWELL. I LIVE ACROSS FROM PHIL 3 6 0 1 TOMPKINS. LIKE HIM. I JUST FOUND OUT ABOUT THIS, UH, THIS AFTERNOON AND RUSHED TO GET OFF WORK TO GET HERE. UM, MY PURPOSE FOR BEING HERE WAS INFORMATIONAL. I DON'T LIKE TO MAKE A DECISION UNTIL I HEAR ALL THE FACTS AND, UM, WHAT I'M HEARING DOES SOUND A LITTLE BETTER THAN WHAT I THOUGHT IT WAS. I WOULD PREFER DEFINITELY THAT WE WOULDN'T HAVE ANY, ANYTHING. I'M MORE INTERESTED IN ECONOMICS. I DON'T WANT ANYTHING THAT DEVALUES MY AREA, MY PROPERTY, UM, THINGS LIKE THAT. I WANT SOMETHING THAT BEAUTIFIES OUR AREA. SO AFTER HEARING THE PLAN, I FEEL MAYBE DISAGREEING THAT I, I WOULD PREFER THIS SINGLE FAMILY ALL OVER STORAGE BUILDINGS, , BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY THIS IS GOING TO BE COMMERCIAL. I LEARNED THAT FROM YOUR PRESENTATION. BUT, UM, I STILL DO HAVE SOME OF THE CONCERNS MY NEIGHBOR HAS HAVE. AND, UM, SOME OF THE THINGS [01:10:01] THAT I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT IT'S NOT GONNA BE LOW INCOME GOVERN, GOVERNMENT ASSISTED LIVING. UM, I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT WORKS. AND I, I LIKE MY NEIGHBORS. I AM CONCERNED ABOUT THE SEWAGE BACKUP. I THINK Y'ALL ARE LOOKING INTO SOME OF THAT. AND SO I GUESS THE MORE INFORMATION I HAVE, THE BETTER I'LL SAY WHETHER OR NOT I AGREE OR DISAGREE WITH THIS PROJECT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. OKAY. MR. COX, DID YOU WANNA MAKE ANY COMMENTS? I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ANYONE HAVE? THESE, THESE ARE SINGLE FAMILY, THESE ARE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, BASICALLY THEY'RE, THEY'RE THREE BEDROOM, TWO CAR, GARAGE, SINGLE FAMILY HOMES. OKAY. ANYBODY HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, RICK? I DO, YEAH. SO THIS IS A QUESTION FOR THE RESIDENTS, UH, THAT CAME UP AND SPOKE ABOUT THIS. DO YOU CURRENTLY HAVE FLOODING PROBLEMS TODAY? I DO. I BACK UP. I'M ON LOT FOUR IN THAT MAP AND I DO HAVE A PROBLEM WITH FLOODING FROM THAT PROPERTY. CAN YOU COME FORWARD AND, 'CAUSE I WON'T BE ABLE TO HEAR YOU. WHERE'S THE OTHER HI, MY NAME IS MICHAEL HUNTER. I'M AT 39 0 5 CANTERBURY. AND THE PROP, THE, THE WATER FROM THAT PROPERTY, UH, IN A MAJOR RAINSTORM DOES BACK UP ONTO MY PROPERTY. MY HOUSE IS KIND OF LOW ON MY PROPERTY, SO, UH, IF I DO HAVE A GOOD MAJOR RAIN, I DO GET WATER UP TO THE WEEP HOLES IN THE BRICK OF MY PROPERTY. AND THAT'S, THAT'S MY BIGGEST CONCERN. I ALSO WANT TO ADDRESS, UH, I BELIEVE THERE WAS SOME ENVIRONMENTAL WORK DONE AND THERE WAS A LOT OF PRODUCTION PIPE. PEOPLE KEEP SAYING PIPELINE. THERE WAS A LOT OF PRODUCTION PIPE THAT WAS PULLED OUT OF THE GROUND FROM THOSE STORAGE TANKS AND THE PUMP JACKS. WE DO SEE AN OIL SHEEN ON STANDING WATER ON THAT PROPERTY TOO. I MOW BEHIND THE THREE LOTS, UH, THE ONE ON EACH SIDE OF ME TO CONTROL THE RAT PROBLEM WE HAVE WITH ALL THE DEBRIS THAT'S ON THAT PROPERTY. SO I SEE A LOT OF THE FLOOD WATER, OIL SHEEN EVERY TIME I MOW, I MOW EVERY SUNDAY. AND SO I KNOW THERE'S CONTAMINATION THERE THEN. AND I WOULD REQUEST A, A ENVIRONMENTAL DONE BEFORE ANY DEVELOPMENT'S DONE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. YES. CAN I, I GUESS I WANT TO ASK THAT THIS QUESTION IS DIRECTED FOR YOU, MARTIN. DID I HEAR YOU CORRECTLY EARLIER THAT WE COULDN'T ASK FOR THAT KIND OF A STUDY, ENVIRONMENTAL STUDY UNTIL AFTER WE APPROVE THE ZONE? WE, WE WOULD ORDINARILY DO THAT A WELL, WE WOULDN'T ORDINARILY ASK FOR THAT DURING A REZONE PROCESS. THAT WOULD NOT BE, UH, THAT WOULD NOT BE A STANDARD, UH, REQUEST COULD DO THAT. CAN WE GO AGAINST THE STANDARD? CAN I MAKE, CAN I MAKE ONE MORE TIME? UH, ONE MORE. IT HAPPENS DURING PERMITTING, DOESN'T IT? THAT'S DEVELOPMENT ISSUE. YEAH, WE, WE DEAL WITH THAT WHEN THEY ACTUALLY START WORKING WITH THE LAND. RIGHT NOW EVERYTHING'S ON PAPER. IT'S REQUIRED DURING PERMITTING. YOU HAD ANOTHER COMMENT? OKAY, NEVERMIND. GO AHEAD. I'M SORRY. ANYONE ELSE? NOPE. GENTLEMAN IN THE BACK. I'M NOT ON THE LIST, PAM, BUT I'M A CITY INSPECTOR. I DO LIVE IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD. WILL COME TO THE MICROPHONE PLEASE. MY NAME'S GLEN BERGERS. I'M THE CITY INSPECTOR HERE, CITY OF BAYTOWN. I LIVE AT 39 0 2 TOMPKINS DRIVE. SO I'M REAL CLOSE TO WHERE THIS PROJECT IS. UM, SEEN THIS PROPERTY FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS, UM, AS A RESIDENT THERE, AS WELL AS AN INSPECTOR FOR THE CITY. I AM AWARE OF A LOT OF THE SITUATIONS IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD. UH, LIVING THERE FOR OVER 10 YEARS. THE DRAINAGE ISSUE, YEAH, THAT'D HAVE TO BE ADDRESSED AND DIVERT OR SEND THE WATER DOWN TOWARDS 1 46 AND THEN OVER TO CEDAR BAYOU BECAUSE TRYING TO PUT WATER BACK IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, THAT'S NOT GONNA WORK. UM, THE, UH, SEWAGE, THEY'VE DONE SOME INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS ON THE SEWAGE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. THEY'VE NOT QUITE BEEN SUCCESSFUL. OKAY. SO THAT WOULD DEFINITELY BE A, A ISSUE THAT WOULD BE OF CONSIDERATION. AND OF COURSE, WATERLINE PROBABLY THE, THE BIGGEST ISSUE THAT THE FOLKS WILL HAVE IN THIS SMALL DEVELOPMENT WILL BE THE TRAFFIC GETTING OUT ONTO 1 46. BAD IDEA. DON'T EVER TAKE A LEFT TURN ON 1 46 OFF TOMPKINS DRIVE. OKAY. IF YOU EVER DO IT, THAT'S REALLY, REALLY DANGEROUS. SO PROBABLY THE TRAFFIC STUDY WOULD BE ONE OF THE BIGGEST ISSUES, HURDLES THAT THE DEVELOPER WOULD HAVE TO OVERCOME. THE OTHER STUFF IS SIMPLY ENGINEERING, YOU KNOW, [01:15:01] WATER, SEWER, PROPER DRAINAGE AND, AND ENGINEERING STUDIES. UH, THERE WAS SOME PRODUCTION WEALTH ON THE PROPERTY YEARS AGO, LIKE THEY'VE SAID, THERE WAS SOME, SOME STUFF THAT HAD BEEN REMOVED AND STUFF LIKE THAT. SO POSSIBLY SOME ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT. THERE DOESN'T APPEAR TO BE CATASTROPHIC. YOU KNOW, I'VE LIVED IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD FOR 10 YEARS, IT'S THE ONLY WAY. THOSE ARE MY COMMENTS. CERTAINLY WE'D RATHER SEE, UH, A RESIDENTIAL TYPE DEVELOPMENT GO HERE. SOMETHING THAT'S A SOFTER IMPACT, SO TO SPEAK, UH, THAT WOULD EITHER IMPROVE VALUES OF THE PROPERTIES NEARBY OR, OR AT LEAST NOT BE, UH, DETRIMENTAL TO IT. SO COMMERCIAL, YOU KNOW, IF THEY WERE TRYING TO DO COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT HERE, TRUE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT, THEY'RE PROBABLY A LOT MORE PEOPLE IN HERE SAYING, WHOA, TIME OUT. YOU KNOW, WE DON'T WANT THE NOISE OR THE DISTURBANCE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. BUT ANYWAY, THOSE ARE MY COMMENTS AND FOR WHAT THEY'RE WORTH. APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, JEFF? MY ONLY REAL CONCERN IS LIKE THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT THE TRAFFIC. 'CAUSE THAT'LL ADD AN EXTRA 120 CARS, PROBABLY MINIMUM TO TOMPKINS ROAD. UM, BUT IT'S, YOU'RE LOOKING AT, IT'S GONNA END UP SOMETHING AND, UH, BUT IT'S MF IS IT MF ONE? THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING. MM-HMM . UM, , THAT'S A LOT FOR, FOR THAT SPOT. OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? WE'VE GONE OVER THE LIST. WE'LL CLOSE THIS PUBLIC HEARING AND MOVE TO A RE REMINDER TO EVERYONE THAT'S IN THE AUDIENCE. THIS WILL HAVE A SECOND PUBLIC HEARING IN OCTOBER. THANK YOU. SPECIAL USE PERMIT, UH, CONDUCT [a. Conduct the second public hearing concerning a request for a Special Use Permit for a proposed railyard on approximately 160 acres, generally located north and south of Needlepoint Road and approximately 6,000 feet east of Sjolander Road.] A SECOND PUBLIC HEARING CONCERNING A REQUEST FOR SPECIAL USE PERMIT FOR A PROPOSED RAIL YARD ON APPROXIMATELY 160 ACRES. GENERALLY LOCATED NORTH AND SOUTH OF NEEDLEPOINT ROAD AND APPROXIMATELY 6,000 FEET EAST OF SHO ROAD 19, MADAM CHAIRWOMAN. AND, UH, COMMISSIONERS, UH, WE SAW THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY AT OUR LAST, UH, PUBLIC HEARING. UM, THIS IS THE SPECIAL USE VICINITY MAP SHOWS THAT IT'S A, AT THE END OF NEEDLE POINT, WE JUST HEARD, UM, A PREVIOUS PUBLIC HEARING ON THE PROPERTY TO THE WEST OF THIS, UM, WHICH WOULD BE WHERE THAT LARGE, UM, WAREHOUSING, UH, SITE IS. ONE, ONE CHANGE THAT I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU WERE AWARE OF. UM, AT THE BEGINNING WHEN WE ORIGINALLY, UH, POSTED THIS ON THE ON WITH THE SUN, AND HERE AT THE CITY, WE BELIEVE THAT WE WERE LOOKING AT THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT FOR ALL 160 ACRES. HOWEVER, WHEN, UM, WHEN I FURTHER TALKED TO THE OWNERS, THEY WANTED TO JUST FOCUS THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT ON THE SITE THAT IS SHOWN RIGHT THERE, WHICH IS ABOUT 5.6 ACRES. AND SO I WANTED TO MAKE THAT AS A, JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU GUYS KNEW, THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO ENSURE THAT THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT ONLY GOVERNS THAT SPECIFIC AREA. AND IF YOU REMEMBER THAT LAST TIME, UM, WHEN I SPOKE ABOUT THIS PROPERTY, THEY HAD ALREADY RECEIVED A SPECIAL USE PERMIT FOR THE PREVIOUS ONE THAT THEY HAD DONE BACK IN 2015, WHICH WAS FOR THAT HEAVY INDUSTRIAL, UM, UH, BUTANE PLANT THAT IS TO THE NORTH OF NEEDLEPOINT ROAD. UM, WHAT ALSO IS GOING ON HERE IS THAT THE OVERALL, UH, DEVELOPMENT WILL EVENTUALLY, THEY'RE REQUESTING TO ABANDON A PORTION OF NEEDLEPOINT ROAD, UM, BECAUSE THE, THE CROSSING THAT'S GONNA BE HAPPENING, OR THAT WAS PROPOSED TO HAPPEN ACROSS CEDAR BAYOU IS NO LONGER VIABLE. AND SO THAT'S ANOTHER PART OF THIS PROJECT THAT IS HAPPENING SEPARATELY WITH THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE. UM, IF YOU REMEMBER FROM OUR PREVIOUS PUBLIC HEARING THAT THEY ARE PROPOSING A SMALL RAIL YARD, A 61 CAR RAIL YARD, UM, THAT WILL BE, UM, HOUSED, UH, SOME EMPTY RAIL CARS AND FOR STORAGE PURPOSES ALONG THIS PROPERTY. UM, THERE'LL BE SHIPPING OFF THEIR BUTTE, UM, UH, I GUESS FODDER THAT THEY, THAT THAT THEY CREATE, THEY CREATE THERE. UM, AND THEN ALSO THAT, UM, WITH THAT THE USE OF THE RAIL LINE HAS A PROPOSED IMPACT OF TAKING APPROXIMATELY ABOUT 2100 CARS OR TRUCKS FROM THE ROAD BY JUST UTILIZING THIS PARTICULAR AREA. SO, UM, I KNOW WE HAVE THE, THE OWNER OR REPRESENTATIVE, THE OWNER HERE. I JUST WANTED TO KIND OF GIVE YOU GUYS A BRIEF, UM, UPDATE AS TO WHAT AND OR REMEMBRANCE OF WHAT, WHAT THIS, UM, PUBLIC HEARING WAS ABOUT. AND IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM FOR YOU. YES, SIR. I HAVE A COMMENT. SO IF I RECALL CORRECTLY, IN THE LAST MEETING WE TALKED [01:20:01] ABOUT THIS, WE'RE ACTUALLY TOLD THAT THOSE RAIL CARS WOULD BE HOLDING SOME SORT OF MATERIALS IN THEM. IS THAT CORRECT? RIGHT. THEY'RE GONNA BE STORAGE FOR THEM TO BE ADDING THE MATERIALS THEMSELVES, WHICH IS A BUTANE MATERIAL. AND I'M, I'M NOT AN EXPERT ON THAT, BUT I KNOW THE OWNERS ARE HERE, SO I THINK, UM, MR. GUILLORY WOULD BE HAPPY TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION. THANK YOU. HI, MY NAME'S BRANDON GUILLORY. UM, ADDRESS IS 11 700 KATY FREEWAY, HOUSTON, TEXAS. SO THE INTENT OF THE RAIL YARD AND THE CARS ON THE RAIL YARD IS NOT TO HOLD THE MATERIAL ANY LONGER THAN ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY. SO THE BUTANES PRODUCED AT THE EXISTING PLANT IMMEDIATELY NORTH OF THE, THE AREA OUTLINED IN BLUE. SO THIS IS THE AREA WE'RE PROPOSING TO BE COVERED BY THE SUP. THE EXISTING RAVEN BUTANE PLANT IS ON THE TRACK IMMEDIATELY NORTH. THE BUTANE IS PRODUCED, FILLS RAIL CARS. THE RAIL CARS SHIP OUT. THE INTENT IS NOT TO STORE IT. UH, THE ONLY SITUATION WHERE IT MAY BE STORED ON SITE WOULD BE SOMETHING LIKE, UM, YOU KNOW, A HURRICANE AND THE SUPPLY CHAIN IS INTERRUPTED. UH, TRAIN CARS AREN'T GETTING OUT OF THERE. AND SO AS THE BUTTE IS PRODUCED, IT WOULD BE STORED IN CARS UNTIL EVERYTHING IS UP AND RUNNING AGAIN, AND IT WOULD BE SHIPPED OUT. BUT THIS IS NOT FOR STORAGE, THIS IS FOR GETTING THE PRODUCT OUT OF THE PLANT AND SHIPPING IT TO THE CUSTOMERS THAT ARE PURCHASING IT. BUT NEVERTHELESS, THE RAIL CARS COULD BE HOLDING THE MATERIAL IN IT FOR ANY NUMBER OF DAYS OR WEEKS. RIGHT? I, I KNOW THAT'S NOT THE INTENT, BUT IT COULD IF THE, IF THE, THE RAIL LINES WERE CLOSED DOWN FOR SOME NUMBER OF WEEKS, THAT THAT IS POSSIBLE, YES. BUT IF THE RAIL LINES ARE RUNNING, UM, THEN IT'S GONNA BE SHIPPED OUT. HAVE Y'ALL LOOKED AT THE PROPERTY NORTH OF I 10 WHERE IT'S NOT ANYWHERE NEAR ALL THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT ARE BACKING UP THERE? UM, NO. YOU KNOW, THIS PROPERTY IS IDEAL ONE BECAUSE IT'S IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO THE EXISTING PLANT AND THE RAIL LINE RUNS IMMEDIATELY ALONG THE, THE EDGE OF IT. YEAH. AND SO THE PLANT THAT CAUGHT ON FIRE THIS LAST STORM, ACTUALLY, SORRY, UM, I WAS JUST MAKING A COMMENT THAT THAT PLANT CAUGHT ON FIRE THIS LAST, UH, IN THIS LAST STORM, UM, WHICH HAS SOMETHING TO DO WITH THE RAIL YARD. BUT I HAVE A BIG CONCERN ABOUT THIS PROPERTY BEING USED AS A STORAGE PLACE FOR THOSE MATERIALS. UM, HAVE A LOT OF FRIENDS THAT LIVE THROUGH THERE AND I, I LIVE OVER IN THAT AREA AND, UH, YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN TOLD THAT THERE'S GONNA BE A 200 FOOT BUFFER, BUT I MEAN, AS IT STANDS TODAY, YOU KNOW, AS I UNDERSTAND IT, THESE RAIL CARS OR THE TRAIN WILL COME THROUGH THERE AT THREE OR FOUR IN THE MORNING. IS THAT, IS THERE GONNA BE INCREASED TRAFFIC WITH THE NEW RAIL YARD THERE? I THINK THAT WE HEARD THAT THAT MAY HAPPEN AS WELL. SO THE, THE OPERATION ITSELF, THE LOADING OF THE RAIL CARS IS A DAY, DAYTIME ONLY OPERATION. THERE'S NOT GONNA BE LOADING OF THE CARS AT NIGHT. UM, AS FAR AS EXACTLY WHEN THE CARS ARE DELIVERED TO THE SITE, UM, YOU KNOW, THE, THE RAIL PROVIDER ON THE ADJACENT MAIN LINE IS GONNA BE THE ONE THAT DICTATES THAT. THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT, THAT WE OR, OR MY CLIENT IS GONNA BE ABLE TO DICTATE. AND, AND JUST FOR CLARITY FOR ME, OR IS THE RAIL CAR STORAGE AREA GONNA BE JUST WITHIN WHERE THIS BLUE LINE IS IT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? OKAY. IT IS. AND SO IT'S JUST THIS SMALL AREA RIGHT HERE. UM, AND I, YOU, YOU MENTIONED A 200 FOOT BUFFER, UM, I BELIEVE THAT WAS PART OF THE PREVIOUS SUP ON THE NORTH PROPERTY. AND AS PART OF THIS, WE SAID THAT WOULD BE MAINTAINED BETWEEN THE PROPOSED AREA IN BLUE AND CEDAR BAYOU. UM, AND THEN I THINK THE, THE DISTANCE TO I 10 IS, IS MORE THAN A COUPLE THOUSAND FEET. IT'S CLOSER TO HALF A MILE. UM, AND THEN TO THE WEST OF THE PROPERTY, WE JUST HEARD FROM THE, THE PROPOSED DEVELOPER HERE. AND THEN YOU'VE GOT THE, UM, THERE'S A CITY ELEVATED STORAGE TANK TANK AND A CITY WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT RIGHT HERE, IMMEDIATELY WEST OF IT. UM, THE PROPERTY OF THE SOUTH IS VACANT AND I'M NOT AWARE OF ANY PLANS CURRENTLY FOR THAT TO BE DEVELOPED. SO THERE'S PRETTY SIZABLE BUFFERS ON ALL SIDES. OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? THANK YOU, SIR. THANK YOU. STEPHANIE BREYERS. SORRY. THAT'S ALRIGHT. HI, UM, COUNSEL, STEPHANIE BREYERS, 95 20 EAST FREEWAY, WHICH IS OUR BUSINESS ADDRESS FOR THE PROPERTY IN QUESTION. SO YOU DID ASK SOME VERY GOOD QUESTIONS AND I JUST WANNA CLARIFY SOMETHING THAT NATHAN HAD MENTIONED. THE ACTUAL AREA THAT'S LISTED IN THE TURQUOISE BOX THAT YOU SEE, IT HAS FOUR TRACKS, TWO, TWO DROP IN PULLS FOR EACH OF THE RAIL LINES THAT ARE THERE. SO THOSE ARE ONLY GONNA BE DELIVERING [01:25:01] THOSE FIVE POSSIBLE SPACES NO MORE THAN EIGHT FOR EMPTY. AND THEN FULL IS GOING RIGHT BACK OUT WHEN ACTUALLY THEY'RE PICKING UP THOSE, UM, FULL RAIL CARS. THERE IS A STORAGE TRACK THAT'S THERE AND IT ACTUALLY HAS FIVE TO SEVEN THAT'S THERE FOR JUST STORAGE AND I'M STORING MY EMPTY CARS THERE. SO THE, THE KEY OF THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY IS REALLY GONNA BE THOSE DROP IN PULLS FOR THE RAIL CARS OR THAT THE RAIL LINES ARE PULLING WHENEVER THEY'RE DOING MY, MY DAYS OF WHEN THEY'RE ACTUALLY DOING THOSE. AND THEN THE EMPTIES THAT I NEED TO ACTUALLY MOVE STUFF AROUND. UH, I JUST WANNA REEMPHASIZE, LIKE HE SAID, IT'S DURING DAYTIME THAT WE'RE ACTUALLY GONNA BE LOADING AND PULLING THOSE CARS. ALL THE OTHER TRAFFIC IS UPE DICTATED AND BNSF DICTATED. SO I'M NOT GONNA BE INCREASING ANYTHING FOR THEM. THAT'S JUST WHAT THEIR NORMAL SCHEDULE IS AT THAT TIME. SO I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THOSE VIEWPOINTS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. IF I MAY, JUST REAL QUICK. HI THOMAS PARENT AGAIN. UH, 69 0 300 SQUARE LANE. UH, YOU KNOW, I WAS AWARE OF THIS, UH, SPECIAL USE PERMIT AHEAD OF THE MEETING, EVEN AT THE LAST MEETING. AND AS A RESIDENT OF THAT AREA AND, AND KNOWING WHAT'S GOING ON ON THE, UH, ON THE RAIL TRAFFIC PRESENTLY, I HAVE NO CONCERNS ABOUT THIS PROJECT. I THINK IT'S A, IT'S A GREAT IDEA TO GET MORE TRUCKS OFF THE ROAD. UM, YOU KNOW, THE, THE RAIL LINES WERE RECENTLY EXPANDED BY UNION PACIFIC. THEY'RE, THEY'RE THE ONES THAT ARE WORKING ALL HOURS OF THE DAY. UM, I THINK THIS IS A, A POSITIVE PROJECT, SO THANK YOU. THANK, AND I'D JUST LIKE TO RE REMIND YOU GUYS THAT UM, WE CURRENTLY DON'T HAVE ANY RECOMMENDATIONS FOR ANY CONDITIONS THAT THAT COULD BE PLACED ON THIS. SO WITH ANY SPECIAL USE PERMIT, YOU AS A RECOMMENDING BODY AND, AND ALSO WITH CITY COUNCIL, THEY HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO PLACE CONDITIONS ON THESE TYPES OF USES THAT ARE REASONABLE. AND ONE OF THE EXAMPLES THAT WE USUALLY GIVE ARE HOURS OF OPERATION. SO IF YOU WANTED TO PLACE SOMETHING, IF YOU FEEL, UM, IF YOU FEEL LIKE YOU NEED TO ADD THAT TO THE APPROVAL, IF YOU WERE TO APPROVE IT, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU COULD ADD TO, UM, THAT CONDITION, UH, FOR APPROVAL. THANK YOU. THANK YOU NICK. SURE. ANYBODY HAVE QUESTIONS OF NATHAN? THERE BEING NO ONE ELSE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK. WE'LL CLOSE THIS PUBLIC HEARING AND MOVE TO SIX [b. Consider a request for a special use permit for a proposed railyard on approximately 160 acres, generally located north and south of Needlepoint Road and approximately 6,000 feet east of Sjolander Road.] B. CONSIDER A REQUEST FOR A SPECIAL USE PERMIT FOR A PROPOSED RAIL YARD ON APPROXIMATELY 160 ACRES, GENERALLY LOCATED NORTH AND SOUTH OF NEEDLEPOINT ROAD AND APPROXIMATELY 6,000 FEET EAST OF SHO ROAD. NATHAN? UH, I HAVE NOTHING. DO HAVE ANYTHING ELSE? I HAVE NOTHING ELSE TO ADD, BUT I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS? ANYBODY HAVE QUESTIONS OF NATHAN? NOW'S YOUR CHANCE. . OKAY. DO I HEAR A MOTION? SO MOVE JEFF, YOU'LL HEAR A SECOND. SECOND. DONNA, ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? CALL THE QUESTION. ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE INDICATE BY SAYING AYE. AYE. A THOSE OPPOSED LIKE SIGN. THANK YOU. MOVING TO, WE HAVE A [7. CONSENT] CONSENT AGENDA NUMBER SEVEN. DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS CONSIDERING THAT WE NEED TO APPROVE THEM? DID I HEAR A MOTION MOVE TO APPROVE. SECOND. HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. DOES ANYONE HAVE QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE INDICATE BY SAYING AYE. AYE. AYE. THOSE OPPOSED LIKE SIGN. THANK YOU. WE ARE [a. Receive a report regarding action taken by City Council on planning and zoning items.] NOW AT DIRECTOR OF REPORT. MARTIN, THANK YOU. UM, SO YOU AS A BOARD, UM, REVIEWED THE IMPACT FEES AND ALL THE ASSUMPTIONS THAT GO ALONG WITH THAT. UH, A COUPLE OF MONTHS, MONTHS AGO, COUNCIL DID APPROVE THAT. UM, THEY ALSO DID APPROVE OUR CITY BUDGET, SO THAT WAS, UM, AND, AND TO OUR, UH, FINANCE DEPARTMENT, ALL THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS THAT, THAT WERE INVOLVED IN THAT IT WAS REALLY SMOOTH, UM, PROCESS FOR, FOR THINGS THAT I'VE BEEN INVOLVED IN THE PAST. SO, SO VERY HAPPY WITH THAT. UM, WHAT DOES THAT MEAN FOR YOU GUYS? IT MEANS, UM, THAT THERE ARE A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT WE WILL BE PURSUING, UH, AS PART OF OUR DEPARTMENT BUDGET THAT WILL BE IN FRONT OF YOU. ONE, YOU'LL SEE A COUPLE NEW FACES BECAUSE WE DID GET A, A COUPLE OF ADDED PERSONNEL, SO THAT'S GREAT. UM, WE GOT [01:30:01] AN INSPECTOR AND THEN WE GOT SOMEONE THAT WILL, UH, SERVE AS, UM, KIND OF A CASE MANAGER SORT OF LIAISON BETWEEN THE APPLICANTS AND OUR EVERYBODY WHO'S DOING PERMIT REVIEW AND THINGS LIKE THAT. SO, UM, SO WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT THAT. THE OTHER PIECE THAT YOU'RE GONNA SEE IS WE HAVE SOME LONG RANGE, UM, PLANNING THINGS THAT, THAT WE'RE GONNA BE BRINGING TO YOU GUYS, UH, AND PROBABLY ONCE THE COMP PLAN IS DONE. AND THEN ALSO, UH, WE ARE LOOKING AT AN OVERHAUL TO OUR, UH, OUR UNIFIED LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE. SO THE ZONING CODE, WHICH HAS KIND OF NEEDED A, A, A, AN OVERHAUL, BUT MORE THAN THAT, THAT WE HAVE A BUNCH OF DIFFERENT DEVELOPMENT CODES THAT ARE SCATTERED. SO WE'D BE BRINGING THOSE TOGETHER AND, UM, AND DOING AN OVERHAUL OF THEM TOGETHER. SO UNILATERALLY EVERYTHING WILL, WILL HOPEFULLY FIT TOGETHER BETTER AND BE A LITTLE EASIER TO UNDERSTAND. SO ANYWAY, THAT'S JUST PART OF THE BUDGET RIGHT NOW. WE'LL GET TO THE DETAILS OF THAT AT A LATER DATE. SO, UM, I DO HAVE SOMETHING THAT I ASKED, UM, OUR PLANNING MANAGER, UH, FRANKIE LINDER TO UM, SHOW YOU GUYS SOMETHING TONIGHT THAT WE SHOWED TO CITY COUNCIL A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO. AND THIS IS A NEW TOOL THAT WE'RE USING. I KNOW, UH, YVONNE MENTIONED IN ONE OF HER PRESENTATIONS THAT, UH, WE DID GET SOME ONLINE, UM, INPUT ON ONE OF THE ITEMS FOR, FOR TONIGHT. AND SO WE'D LIKE TO SHOW YOU WHAT, UH, WHEN WE SAY THERE'S SOME ONLINE INPUT, WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING TO, UM, TO GATHER SOME OF THAT INPUT. SO FRANKIE, IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND, I TOLD HER TO DO THE SHORT VERSION. I PROMISE WE HAS TO LIMIT ME. OKAY. OKAY, SO, UM, WE'RE GONNA GO TO BAYTOWN ENGAGE.COM. I NEED, HAVE Y'ALL BEEN, THERE'S A POP QUIZ, NOT RECENTLY. OKAY, THERE WE GO. BAYTOWN ENGAGE.COM. SO THIS IS A GREAT TOOL THAT THE CITY LAUNCHED LAST FALL IN THE MIDST OF THE PANDEMIC AND, UM, WE ARE CONTINUING TO UTILIZE IT AND GROW AND ADD MORE PROJECTS ALL THE TIME. SO I RECOMMEND EVERYBODY JOIN IT. UH, GO AHEAD AND REGISTER, UM, THAT WAY YOU GET NEWSLETTERS SENT OUT AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO GO BACK AND CHECK YOUR PROJECTS ALL THE TIME. . SO WHAT WE'RE GONNA HIGHLIGHT HERE IS GOING TO BE OUR DEVELOPMENT PERMIT APPLICATIONS. SO BASICALLY WE HAVE CREATED THIS PAGE. AH, LOOK WHO IT IS. OH MY GOSH, OH MY GOODNESS, . SO, SO WE HAVE CREATED THIS PAGE, UH, WHERE WE ARE POSTING ALL OF OUR APPLICATIONS FOR ZONING AS WELL AS FOR ANNEXATION AND SPECIFIC USE PERMITS. SO THERE'S A COUPLE DIFFERENT WAYS YOU CAN FIND APPLICATIONS. SO THE FIRST ONE IS RIGHT HERE. YOU CAN CLICK THIS AND IT'S GONNA OPEN A GIS MAP. AND IF YOU'RE NOT SURE WHERE THE PROPERTY WAS, YOU KNOW, YOU SAW THE SIGN, YOU CAN SCROLL IN AND KIND OF LOCATE IT. AND, UH, LET'S GO TO ONE FROM TONIGHT AND YOU CAN, HEY, IF I SAW THE SIGN, HOW WOULD I MAKE MY WAY TO THIS PAGE REAL EASILY? SO WE'VE ALSO UPDATED OUR SIGNS. SO WE'VE ADDED A QR CODE THAT WILL TAKE YOU DIRECTLY TO THE DEVELOPMENT HUB, WHICH YOU CAN ALWAYS FIND BY GOING TO BAYTOWN ENGAGE.COM/D AND IT'LL TAKE YOU STRAIGHT TO IT. SO IF YOU SAW THE SIGN AND YOU WERE DRIVING LIKE MARTIN AND YOU DIDN'T HAVE TIME TO TAKE A PICTURE OF THE QR CODE, YOU CAN ALWAYS GO AND FIND IT THIS WAY AND YOU CAN CLICK THE PROJECT PAGE AND IT'LL OPEN UP FOR YOU. OKAY, SO THIS IS OUR BASIC FORMAT THAT WE HAVE FOR ALL OF OUR ZONING, UM, APPLICATIONS. WE HAVE A LINK HERE TO THE INTERACTIVE, SO YOU CAN GO BACK AND LOOK AT THE GREATER AREA. WE HAVE THE VICINITY MAP, WHICH YOU CAN CLICK ON AND IT'LL MAKE IT NICE AND LARGE. WE ALSO HAVE SOME BASIC INFORMATION, THE REQUESTED ACCESS, UH, EXCUSE ME, THE REQUESTED ACTION, THE APPLICANT, UM, THE PROPERTY, THE CURRENT USE, THE FUTURE LAND USE PLAN, AND A BRIEF BACKGROUND OF IT. DOWN BELOW IT WE HAVE THE VERY IMPORTANT COMMENT FORM. SO ANYBODY CAN COME ON HERE AND THEY CAN, UH, TYPE IN THEIR NAME, THEIR EMAIL ADDRESS, THEIR HOME ADDRESS, UM, TELL US HOW THEY LEARNED ABOUT THIS APPLICATION, WHETHER OR NOT THEY SUPPORT OR, UM, OBJECT THE PROPOSAL, ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENT THEY HAVE. AND THEN THEY ALSO HAVE THE OPTION TO UPLOAD ANYTHING. AND SO THIS WILL BE PROVIDED TO YOU AT YOUR SECOND PUBLIC HEARING AND IT WILL ALSO BE PROVIDED TO CITY COUNCIL FOR THEIR PUBLIC HEARING. OKAY, SO WE ALSO HAVE FAQS AND IF YOU CLICK ON ONE OF THESE, LET'S GO TO ONE FROM TODAY. WELL, NO, YOU CAN CLICK ON IT. AND THIS IS GONNA OPEN UP YOUR DEVELOPMENT REGULATION PACKET. SO THIS IS GONNA HAVE ALL THE INFORMATION YOU NEED TO KNOW, YOU WANNA KNOW WHAT, UM, WHAT USES ARE GONNA BE ALLOWED. YOU CAN CLICK HERE AND IT WILL TAKE YOU TO IT. UM, OR IF YOU WANNA KNOW WHAT THE SETBACKS ARE, YOU CAN CLICK THE SETBACKS [01:35:01] AND IT'LL TAKE YOU TO THE SETBACKS EXAMPLE. AND THEN OVER HERE ON THE RIGHT ALSO IS IMPORTANT WE HAVE WHO IS LISTENING, WHAT STAFF MEMBER IS ASSIGNED TO THIS CASE. AND WE'LL ALWAYS HAVE A PERSON HERE AS WELL AS THEIR EMAIL ADDRESS SO YOU CAN REACH OUT TO THEM DIRECTLY IF YOU HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS. A, UH, LITTLE INFOGRAPHIC WITH OUR TYPICAL ZONING PROCESS. AND THEN OUR PUBLIC HEARING DATES. WE'LL HAVE THE FIRST, THE SECOND WHEN THE COMMENT PERIOD CLOSES AND ONLINE PO UH, EXCUSE ME, ONLINE COMMENT PERIOD CLOSES AS WELL AS THE CITY COUNCIL HEARING. AND SOMETHING WILL BE ADDED THAT WAS REQUESTED BY COUNCIL IS HAVING A SECTION WHERE YOU CAN SIGN UP TO SPEAK AT THE PUBLIC HEARING. SO JUST LIKE WE HAVE THE PIECES OF PAPER THAT GOES UP TO, UH, MS. WHEELER, UH, YOU'LL BE ABLE TO SIGN UP FOR IT ONLINE AND THAT'S COMING. AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE, UM, BASIC DOCUMENTS. WE HAVE MAPS, ZONING, UH, FUTURE LAND USE PLAN, WE HAVE THE STAFF REPORT, WE HAVE THE VICINITY MAP, AND THEN, UM, STANDARD, UH, LINKS ABOUT ZONING, LONG RANGE PLANS, GIVE A LITTLE PLUG FOR THAT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. UM, FUN STUFF. OH, SO I, I HOPE YOU'RE PAYING ATTENTION BECAUSE AT SOME POINT, IF I HAVE MY WAY, THIS'LL BE YOUR, THIS'LL BE YOUR PACKET. SO, OKAY. , THIS IS REALLY GRADUATED. IT'S NICE. VERY NICE. DID THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT PUT THIS TOGETHER? YES, WE DID. UM, FRANK FRANKIE WAS KIND OF THE MASTERMIND BEHIND IT. UM, I KNOW NA, NATHAN AND YVONNE BOTH HELPED, UH, QUITE A LOT. AND, UM, SABRINA FROM MARTIN, FROM, UH, THE LIBRARY, UH, ALSO WAS, UH, BAYTOWN ENGAGE IS KIND OF HER BABY, SO SHE, SHE HAD A BIG HAND IN IT AS WELL. THANK YOU. CONGRATULATIONS. WONDERFUL. WE'RE VERY EXCITED ABOUT IT. AND WE'RE ALSO KEEPING OUR COMPLETED, UH, DEVELOPMENT APPLICATIONS ON HERE TOO. SO IF SOMEBODY ASKS YOU ABOUT A PAST CASE, YOU CAN ALWAYS DIRECT THEM TO HERE AND WE'LL KEEP IT UP HERE FOR ABOUT TWO MONTHS. AND THEN AFTER THAT WE'LL BE TAKING IT DOWN. BUT OF COURSE THEY CAN REACH OUT TO US AND WE WILL GET THEM THAT INFORMATION, SO SWEET. COOL. ANY QUESTIONS FOR FRANKIE? THAT'S GREAT. GOOD JOB. GREAT JOB. THANK YOU, FRANKIE. YEAH, WE'RE, WE'RE VERY PROUD OF THAT. AND LIKE I SAID, FRANKIE WAS KIND OF THE ONE WHO, WHO HEADED THAT UP, SO, UM, SO YEAH, WE'RE REALLY, REALLY HAPPY WITH THAT. THANK YOU. I I HAVE ONE OTHER, UM, THING THAT UH, I'D LIKE TO ASK, UH, MR. DIETRICH TO PLEASE. UH, DO, DO YOU HAVE SOMETHING YOU'D LIKE TO SHARE? SO, UM, IT'S A LITTLE BITTERSWEET, BUT UM, I WANTED TO FIRST SAY THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME SERVE. UM, THIS WILL BE MY LAST PLANNING COMMISSION HERE WITH, UH, THE CITY OF BAYTOWN. UM, I HAVE RECENTLY ACCEPTED AN OFFER WITH THE CITY OF TOMBALL, AND I'LL BE MOVING, UM, WHICH IS A LOT CLOSER TO MY HOUSE. UH, WHAT I LIKE TO SAY IS I COME TO BAYTOWN, I DRIVE 128 MILES ROUND TRIP EVERY DAY, AND, UH, IT WILL CHANGE INTO A 14 MILE ROUND TRIP FOR ME, SO I'LL BE ABLE TO SPEND MORE TIME WITH MY FAMILY. SO CONGRATULATIONS, IT'S BEEN A PLEASURE. I REALLY APPRECIATE YOU GUYS, AND I, I WILL MISS YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU GUYS. WE'RE GONNA MISS YOU. IT, IT'S NOT, CONGRATULATIONS, IT'S NOT, HE, HE NEVER INCLUDES THIS PIECE, BUT HE'S ALSO, HE'S MOVING UP, HE'S GOING TO BE A DIRECTOR, UH, IN TOMBALL. SO I THINK WE, WE ARE, WE'RE VERY, UH, PROUD OF NATHAN AND HIM MOVING ON TO BETTER, BETTER THINGS. SO, UM, THAT'S ALL I HAVE. ARE YOU HAVING A PARTY? A GOING AWAY PARTY? , WE'RE GONNA GO OUT AND GET HIM DRUNK MONDAY NIGHT. SO , WHERE WILL WE MEET? NATHAN, WE WILL MISS YOU GREATLY. YOU'RE ONE OF THE NICEST PEOPLE AT THE CITY OF BAYTOWN AND IT'S A BIG LOSS TO US. SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR SERVICE AND WE'RE PROUD OF YOU AND WE'RE GLAD THAT YOU'RE GETTING THAT STEP UP AND THAT YOU'RE GONNA GET CLOSER TO HOME. CONGRATULATIONS. THANK YOU SO MUCH. TRACY SAID THAT BECAUSE, UH, SHE KNOWS I'M GONNA BE SUPER MEAN TO HER NOW THAT YOU'RE NOT HERE, WELL, HE CAN'T WIN . THAT, THAT'S ALL I HAVE TAKES CARE OF OUR AGENDA FOR THIS EVENING. SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE AND THANK YOU COMMISSIONERS FOR BEING HERE AND SPENDING THIS TIME WITH US. AND WE'RE ADJOURNED. THANK YOU. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.