* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [ CITY OF BAYTOWN NOTICE OF MEETING BAYTOWN POLICE ADVISORY COMMITTEE MONDAY, SEPTEMBER 20, 2021 6:00 P.M. COUNCIL CHAMBER, CITY HALL 2401 MARKET STREET, BAYTOWN, TEXAS 77520 AGENDA CALL TO ORDER AND ANNOUNCEMENT OF QUORUM ] [00:00:17] THIS, THIS MEETING OF THE BAYTOWN POLICE ADVISORY COMMITTEE FOR SEPTEMBER THE 20TH, 2021 AT 6:07 PM AND ANNOUNCED THAT WE HAVE A QUORUM. [1. MINUTES] FIRST ITEM ON THE AGENDA TODAY IS TO CONSIDER THE MINUTES OF THE BAYTOWN POLICE ADVISORY COMMITTEE MEETING HELD ON AUGUST THE 10TH, 2021. MAY I HAVE A MOTION APPROVING THE MINUTES AS SUBMITTED? MOTION? MOTION. I GOT A MOTION. MAY I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. A MOTION. ALL RIGHTY. HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES. SEEING THAT WE DO NOT HAVE ANYONE SIGNED UP FOR THE CITIZEN INPUT PORTION OF OUR MEETING, WE WILL GO ON TO [a. Review and discuss training curricula for Police Officers, including training regarding inclusivity.] ITEM NUMBER THREE ON THE AGENDA. AND FIRST ITEM IS TO REVIEW AND DISCUSS TRAINING CRITERIA FOR POLICE OFFICERS, INCLUDING TRAINING REGARDING INCLUSIVITY. AND WE'RE GOING TO BE HEARING FROM CHIEF MIKE HOLDEN. THANK YOU, CHIEF, FOR BEING HERE TONIGHT. CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW? ? UM, SO, UH, WITH THE TRAINING THAT WE HAVE THERE, I PROVIDED AS IN THE LAST MEETING, THERE WAS A REQUEST FOR SOME OF THE LESSON PLANS THAT WERE INVOLVED WITH CRISIS INTERVENTION TRAINING, DEESCALATION TECHNIQUES, TRAINING. AND THEN, UH, THE OTHER WAS THE INTERMEDIATE USE OF FORCE THAT I PROVIDED WITH THE, UH, LESSON PLANS THAT ARE TAUGHT TO ALL THE OFFICERS OF THE BAYTOWN POLICE DEPARTMENT. STARTING OFF WITH BASIC, AND THEN IT GOES OFF TO REFRESHER COURSES AND SOME OF THESE REFRESHER COURSES WE'RE TAUGHT AND THE USE OF, UM, OUR BLOCK TRAINING THAT WE GO THROUGH EVERY TWO YEARS. SO, UM, YOU KNOW, NOT TO GO INTO GREAT DETAIL ON EACH AND EVERY ONE OF THESE, BUT IF THERE'S PARTICULAR QUESTION OR ANYTHING, UH, BUT TO KIND OF LET YOU KNOW, THE, UM, FOR LIKE DEESCALATION, UH, TIME ALLOTTED, THAT'S AN EIGHT HOUR COURSE THAT GOES INTO DEESCALATION TECHNIQUES. AND THIS ISN'T JUST, YOU KNOW, IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE ONE TIME. IT CAN BE TAUGHT OVER AND OVER AGAIN IF WE WISH. UM, IT GOES INTO THAT. BUT WHAT T COLE REQUIRES IS AT LEAST EIGHT HOURS OF DEESCALATION TRAINING IS DONE. AND THEN FOR LIKE INTERMEDIATE USE OF FORCE, IT'S A 16 HOUR COURSE, TWO DAY LONG. IT GOES WITH THAT ONE. AND AGAIN, UM, WE DO USE OF FORCE TRAINING ON A YEARLY BASIS, JUST LIKE YOU PARTICIPATED IN THE FATS TRAINING. THAT IS OUR USE OF FORCE. UM, WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE WE REVIEW THE POLICY AND PROCEDURES BEFORE WE GO INTO THAT FATS TRAINING. AND THEN JUST ABOUT EVERY ONE OF THE BLOCK TRAININGS I'VE BEEN IN OVER ALL THE YEARS, UM, WE HAVE A USE OF FORCE TYPE CLASS THAT'S IN THERE TO, TO TEACH THE OFFICERS. SO IT'S A REOCCURRING TYPE COURSE. AND THEN THE OTHER ONE IS THE, UH, CRISIS INTERVENTION TRAINING THAT YOU WERE ASKING ABOUT. THAT IS A 40 HOUR COURSE. THAT IS THE CRISIS INTERVENTION, UH, THAT GOES THROUGH. AND THEN THEY GO INTO AN ADVANCED ONE IF THEY NEED TO FOR THE MENTAL HEALTH OFFICERS. EXCUSE ME. UH, BASICALLY WITH LIKE THE CRISIS INTERVENTION TRAINING IS A 40 HOUR TRAINING FOR CRISIS INTERVENTION TO TEACH THE COURSE. UM, THE LEARNING OBJECTIONS ARE MINIMUM REQUIRED CONTENT OF THE CRISIS INTERVENTION TRAINING. UH, THIS COURSE IS REQUIRED COURSE TO BE COMPLETED, NO LATER IN THE SECOND ANNIVERSARY OF THE DATE THE OFFICER'S LICENSE OR THE DATE OF AN OFFICER APPLIES FOR AN INTERMEDIATE PROFICIENCY CERTIFICATE. UM, SO, AND THIS, THIS STARTED IN APRIL OF 2018, IS WHEN THE STATE OF TEXAS DEV DEVISED THIS COURSE AND WENT ON. SO BASICALLY ALL THE OFFICERS OF BAYTOWN POLICE DEPARTMENT HAVE BEEN THROUGH CRISIS INTERVENTION TRAINING, AND THEN YOU GO INTO THE MORE ADVANCED TO THE MENTAL HEALTH OFFICERS, THE HAVE ANOTHER COURSE THAT GOES INTO THAT. ALL RIGHTY. ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING THE, UH, IN REGARD TO THE TRAINING AND THE INCLUSIVITY FOR CHIEF HOLDEN THAT HE JUST COVERED UP? DR. MORENO? OKAY. UM, THANK YOU FOR ALL OF THIS SUPER HELP. THANK YOU. CAN YOU HEAR ME? NOW? I CAN. OKAY. I'M, I'M RIGHT THERE WITH YOU. UM, FOR ALL OF THIS SUPER HELPFUL. IS THERE ANY WAY THAT WE CAN ACTUALLY GET THE TRAINING GUIDES, THE WHAT? CAN WE [00:05:01] GET THE TRAINING GUIDES? IS THAT POSSIBLE FOR US TO GET THE ICAT TRAINING GUIDE OR EVEN THE CIT, THE CRISIS INTERVENTION TRAINING GUIDE SO WE KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THEY'RE BEING TRAINED ON? LIKE, I SEE THAT THIS IS THE CURRICULUM, BUT LIKE IF I READ THROUGH SOME OF THIS, WHEN I LOOK AT THE FIRST MODULE, IT SAYS, DESCRIBE THE KEY ELEMENTS AND FOCUS ON THE I ICAT TRAINING GUIDE. AWESOME. I'M EXCITED ABOUT THAT. BUT I DON'T KNOW, IT WAS ONE THEM LIKE 90 SLIDES LONG. THE OTHER ONE'S LIKE A HUNDRED MM-HMM . I MEAN, THESE ARE LONG COURSE OBJECTIVES AND WHAT THEY GO THROUGH THAT'S ON THERE MM-HMM . SO RATHER THAN PRINTING UP BOOKS THAT CAME HERE, YOU KNOW, I THOUGHT Y'ALL NEEDED THE LESSON PLANS TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE BEING TAUGHT THE INFORMATION, BUT I DON'T KNOW WHAT INFORMATION'S BEING TAUGHT. IT'S UNDER THE LESSON PLAN. IT'LL TELL YOU THE OBJECTIVES THAT ARE SUPPOSED TO BE MET IN EACH AND EVERY ONE OF THEM. RIGHT. BUT WHAT ARE THE KEY ELEMENTS? LIKE WHEN IT SAYS, DESCRIBE THE KEY ELEMENTS OF FOCUS ON THE ICAT TRAINING GUIDE, LIKE, I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S WITHIN THAT. YOU SEE WHAT I'M SAYING? LIKE, I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S WITHIN THAT GUIDE OR WHAT'S BEING TAUGHT OR WHAT EVEN THE KEY ELEMENTS ARE TO UNDERSTAND. YOU SEE WHAT I'M SAYING? LIKE, I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT, IT'D BE HELPFUL FOR US TO KNOW EXACTLY WHAT'S BEING TAUGHT FOR, TO ENSURE THAT WE ARE ADDRESSING THE INCLUSIVITY. CAN, CAN I POSE IT A DIFFERENT WAY? OKAY. DR. MORENO ICAT IS, IS I A, A STANDARDIZED, UM, UNIFORMITY THAT IS TAUGHT BY DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS. I MEAN, WHAT, WHAT IS JUST VERIFY, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT IS ICAT? SO THEY GO WITH A LOT OF THESE LESSON PLANS THAT ARE ALL SITTING THERE. THESE ARE ALL GUIDELINES THAT ARE BASICALLY SET UP BY THE STATE OF TEXAS UNDER TCO UNDER THAT REQUIRES YOU TO HIT EACH ONE OF THESE LESSONS, THESE LEARNING OBJECTIVES, AND THESE LESSONS THAT ARE HERE. SO IT'S STANDARDIZATION THROUGHOUT THE STATE OF TEXAS TO GO THROUGH ON THAT TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE ITEMS ARE AT LEAST TOUCHED ON. NOW, CAN AN INSTRUCTOR GO INTO A LITTLE BIT FURTHER INTO THE INSTRUCTION AND TRAINING? SURE. THEY COULD GO INTO THAT, BUT THEY AT LEAST HAVE TO MEET THE MINIMUM STANDARDS OF WHAT THE STATE OF TEXAS HAS THAT'S THERE. AND ALSO WITH, WITH THIS IN REGARD TO THE, THE TRAINING OF OUR POLICE OFFICERS IN CONSIDERING THAT THE CITY OF BAYTOWN IS NOW, YOU KNOW, WE'RE RECOGNIZED, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, I WAS LOOKING IT UP ON MY PHONE AND I THINK SINCE 2012, WE'VE BEEN A RECOGNIZED POLICE DEPARTMENT THROUGH THE, IS IT HELP ME ON THE, IT'S THE TEXAS CHIEF OF POLICE BEST PRACTICES. SO, AND PRIOR TO THAT, THE CITY OF BAYTOWN POLICE DEPARTMENT WAS RECOGNIZED BY KALIA. OKAY. AND THAT STARTED OFF BASICALLY IN EARLY TWO THOUSANDS. AND THEN THE, UH, WE TRANSFERRED OVER TO THE TEXAS CHIEF OF POLICE BEST PRACTICES WHEN THEY FORMED THEIR ORGANIZATION. SO ALL OF THAT BEING SAID, WITH T COLE AND THE CHIEF OF POLICE ORGANIZATIONS, THIS WE'RE, WE'RE BASICALLY BEING COVERED IN ORDER TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE, WE'RE HITTING THE STANDARDS CORRECT FOR THE STATE OF TEXAS. AND THEN ALSO MANY OF OUR UPPER LEADERSHIP SUCH AS YOURSELF IS ALSO GOING THROUGH THE FBI TRAINING IN, IN ORDER TO, TO HAVE THAT ADVANCED MASTER, WHAT I WOULD CONSIDER A MASTER TRAINING. UH, CORRECT. SURE. YEAH. I MEAN, THERE'S, WE HAVE THAT, WE HAVE THE LEADERSHIP TRAINING THAT'S OCCURRING RIGHT NOW WITH ALL OF OUR SUPERVISORS. AND THE GOAL WITH THAT IS TO, FROM SERGEANT TO LIEUTENANTS ALL THE WAY UP, IT AT LEAST GET THEM THROUGH WHAT WE CALL THE TRILOGY THROUGH FBI NATIONAL ACADEMY FOR THEIR LEADERSHIP TRAINING. UM, SO, OKAY. YES. IT'S, IT'S CONSTANTLY GOING ON AND WE MEET ALL THE STANDARDS. JUST FOR INSTANCE, THIS NEXT YEAR IN 2022, WE'RE UP FOR OUR RECERTIFICATION WITH BEST PRACTICES, TEXAS POLICE CHIEF ASSOCIATION THAT GOES WITH THAT. SO WE HAVE TO MEET ALL THOSE STANDARDS. THEY COME DOWN, THEY LOOK AT ALL OF OUR POLICIES, THEY LOOK AND MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE BASICALLY EVERYTHING IN LINE FOR WHAT THEY CALL FOR THEIR, UM, STANDARDIZATION POINTS THAT ARE IN THERE. SO DOES THAT HELP DR. MURRAY? SO THE TCO AND THE ICAT INFORMATION I CAN FIND ONLINE, LIKE IF I, IF IT'S JUST A STATE STANDARD OR PART OF THE STATE OF TEXAS REGULATIONS IF YOU WANT IT. YES. YES. OKAY. YOU CAN, THAT'S FINE. THANK YOU. YOU CAN GOOGLE ANYTHING THESE DAYS, HUH? YEAH, EXACTLY. EXACTLY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON, ON THIS BUSINESS ITEM FOR CHIEF HOLDEN BEFORE WE GO TO THE NEXT ITEM? ALL RIGHTY. SO [b. Receive and discuss the evaluation process for police officers.] THE NEXT ITEM IS, IS THREE B. AND THAT'S TO RECEIVE AND DISCUSS THE EVALUATION PROCESS FOR POLICE OFFICERS. SO WITH THE PAMPHLET, THAT STARTS OFF WITH THE POSITIVE ENGAGEMENT THAT'S THERE. IF YOU'LL START OFF ON PAGE NUMBER THREE, THESE ARE THE CERTAIN TYPES OF FORMS THAT WE USE IN EVALUATING EMPLOYEES ON A DAILY BASIS. [00:10:01] WE DO AN EMPLOYEE PERFORMANCE NOTICE. AS YOU CAN SEE, THERE'S CERTAIN AREAS THERE, THERE ARE CATTLE CATALOG THERE. THEN WE MOVE OVER INTO AN INTERNAL EMPLOYEE CONSULTATION. THEN THE, UH, EMPLOYEE MERIT ACCOMPLISHMENT NOTICE. UH, THEN WE HAVE BASICALLY VIDEO TAPE CRITIQUE FORM. SO JUST TO GIVE YOU A HISTORY OF THE BAYTOWN POLICE DEPARTMENT, SINCE EARLY, EARLY TWO THOUSANDS, WE HAVE BEEN, UH, VIDEO RECORDING WITH IN OUR CARS, IN CAR CAMERA SYSTEMS. MM-HMM . SO THAT'S HOW THAT KIND OF STARTED OFF THAT WENT IN THAT. AND NOW WE GO INTO, UM, NOT ONLY THAT, WE DO THE BODY CAMERAS. SO WITH THE ADVENT OF THE BODY CAMERAS COMING ONLINE, UM, SHOWED YOU ANOTHER UP-TO-DATE FORM WITH THE VIDEOTAPE CRITIQUE AND REVIEW LOG SHEET, UM, THAT'S THERE. SO EACH AND EVERY ONE OF THESE ARE EVALUATED BY THE SUPERVISORS. SO THEY GO IN AND THEY LOOK AT THE VIDEOS FOR SITUATIONS THAT ARE IN THERE, AND THEN THEY CAN CALL IN THE PARTICULAR EMPLOYEE IF THEY SEE THAT THERE'S A ISSUE IN THE WAY THAT THEY HANDLED IT EITHER IN A PROCEDURAL ISSUE. SO WE DO IT ON A DAILY BASIS BY DOING OUR EVALUATIONS. IT GOES INTO THAT AND, AND BASICALLY IF THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME TYPE OF RETRAINING DONE, IT'S IMMEDIATELY DONE AT THAT POINT. OR WE CALL IN AND FIND OUT FROM THE ACADEMY WHEN DO THEY HAVE NEXT AVAILABLE CLASS. SO FOR INSTANCE, IF IT'S SOMETHING IN HANDCUFFING TECHNIQUES OR IF IT'S IN, UM, AS BATON OR ANY, ANY TYPE OF USE OF FORCE TOO, THAT'S WITH THAT, THAT WE COULD SEND BACK TO TRAINING IF NEED BE, IF IT'S THAT EXTENT. IF NOT, IF IT'S SOMETHING ELSE THAT'S A EXCESSIVE USE OF FORCE. AND THAT WOULD GO INTO OUR INTERNAL AFFAIRS BUREAU FOR INVESTIGATION. AND IN, IN THAT DA, GO AHEAD DR. MORENO. NO, IN THAT DAILY PROCESS, I'M ASSUMING THAT, THAT THOSE ARE RANDOM VIDEO SELECTIONS MM-HMM . UH, I'M ASSUMING FOR, FOR EACH OFFICER. IS IT PER SHIFT OR AS, AS AS IT'S AVAILABLE. CAN YOU FURTHER GIVE US JUST A LITTLE DRILL DOWN ON, ON THOSE THO THAT DAILY REVIEW? SO BASICALLY EVERYTHING IS ELECTRONIC AND IT'S DOWNLOADED AT THE END OF THE OFFICER SHIFT. SO THOSE VIDEOS ARE AUTOMATICALLY PUT INTO A STORAGE FILE THAT'S THERE. UH, WE UTILIZE AXON, WHICH IS AN OFFSITE STORAGE, WEB-BASED KIND OF THING THAT'S THERE. AND SO WE CAN IMMEDIATELY AFTER THAT GO IN THERE AND START LOOKING AT THE VIDEO OR SO, AND THE SUPER, LIKE I SAID, SUPERVISOR GOES IN THERE AND THEY HAVE THE LIST OF OFFICERS THAT THEY'RE, IT'S UNDER THEIR SPAN OF CONTROL, AND THEY WILL LOOK THROUGH THAT LIST AND THEY'LL DO, YOU KNOW, VIDEO CRITIQUES AND PULL UP AND WATCH VIDEOS FROM PARTICULAR DAYS, NOT JUST JUST WHENEVER THEY WANT TO. AND THEN THE FOLLOW UP WITH THAT A LITTLE BIT, IF THERE WAS A CITIZEN THAT CALLED AND ASKED ABOUT A PARTICULAR, YOU KNOW, SITUATION OR STOP OR ENCOUNTER, THE SUPERVISOR CAN GO IN THERE AND ALSO LOOK AT THAT. THAT'S ON THERE. SO YOU JUST ANSWERED MY FOLLOW UP QUESTION TO THAT, SO. SURE. ALL RIGHT. DR. MURANO, SO ON THE EMPLOYEE PERFORMANCE NOTICE OR THE, ARE THESE ONLY FILLED OUT IF THERE'S A DIS LIKE IF THERE'S A CONCERN, OR DO Y'ALL DO LIKE A, DO YOU USE THESE FOR, HOW OFTEN DO YOU EVALUATE THEM OUTSIDE OF THE VIDEO TEAMS? WE, WE DO A DAILY EVALUATION WITH OUR OFFICERS. WE'RE, WE'RE CONSTANTLY EVALUATING, SEEING FROM A ROLL CALL ALL THE WAY THROUGH. WHAT, WHAT I THINK YOU'RE TRYING TO REFER TO, DO WE DO A YEARLY EVALUATION WHERE WE GO INTO THAT? NO, WE DO NOT DO ANY YEARLY EVALUATION. WE DO IT ON A DAILY BASIS. AND YOU DOCUMENT IT DAILY. I MEAN, ARE YOU DOCUMENTING THIS IN SOME KIND OF FILE DAILY SO IT'S DOCUMENTED IF THEY COME INTO ENCOUNTERS THAT ARE THERE. SO THAT'S WHY I PUT IN HERE THE EMPLOYEE MERIT ACCOMPLISHMENTS. SO IF THEY DID SOMETHING THAT WAS GOOD, IF THE SUPERVISOR WANTED TO, YOU KNOW MM-HMM . REWARD THEM FOR THAT, FINE. IF THEY GO INTO WHERE THERE'S A, A PROCEDURAL ISSUE, THEN THAT WOULD BE WHERE I SHOWED YOU WITH THE INTERNAL CONSULTATION OR AN EMPLOYEE PERFORMANCE NOTICE THAT WOULD GO INTO THOSE TYPE SITUATIONS. OKAY. I'M NOT USED TO THAT. I'M USED TO BEING ABLE TO HAVE SOME KIND OF EV, NOT THIS JUST ME, BUT TO HAVE SOME KIND OF FORMAL EVALUATION PROCESS WHERE I CAN GROW MY PEOPLE. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? OR MY, THE EMPLOYEES THAT WORK UNDER ME. SURE. SO I DON'T, I DON'T SEE HOW, I MEAN, 'CAUSE I, I WATCH PEOPLE DAILY TOO, RIGHT? AND LIKE I MAKE A MENTAL NOTE, OH, THEY LOOK LIKE SOMETHING'S GOING ON WITH THEM. BUT LIKE, I DON'T SEE WHERE OUR REQUIREMENT THAT'S ON THAT IS WHERE YOU'RE SAYING YOU MAKE A MENTAL NOTE. OUR SUPERVISORS SHOULD BE ADDRESSING THE ISSUE IMMEDIATELY. IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT'S THERE, THEY SHOULD BE ADDRESSING IT. AND IF IT'S ADDRESSED, THEN THEY'LL TAKE THAT INTO THE INTERNAL CONSULTATION OR WHATEVER THAT'S THERE, AND NOT TAKING DOWN A NOTE AND WAITING UNTIL SIX MONTHS LATER TO WRITE AN EVALUATION OF THEM. SAY YOU DID THIS OR YOU DID THAT. SO THEY ARE DOCUMENTING IT, THEN THEY ARE WRITING IT DOWN, NOT JUST HAVING [00:15:01] THE VERBAL CONVERSATION. SO THAT, YES. SO WHENEVER THEY DO THE INTERNAL CONSULTATIONS, EMPLOYEE PERFORMANCE, AND IN SOME CASES THAT THAT BECOMES PART OF, OF THAT POLICE OFFICER'S FILE, SO TO SPEAK. MM-HMM . AND I GUESS TO DR. MORENO'S POINT IS THAT LATER DOWN THE ROAD THAT CAN BE LOOKED AT AS, AS RED FLAGS OR ANYTHING OF THAT NATURE. SURE. OKAY. ALL RIGHTY. ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE PANEL FOR I HAVE ONE. YES. SO WHEN AN OFFICER, IS THERE EVER A TIME WHEN THEY DON'T DOCUMENT A CONVERSATION THAT'S EITHER A DISCIPLINARY OR, UM, UM, REACTIVE FOR ANY REASON, CITIZEN COMPLAINT OR ANYTHING? IS THERE, I SEE THE FORM, EVERYTHING'S FILLED OUT. IS THERE A TIME WHEN THAT FORM IS NOT USED BECAUSE IT'S NOT NECESSARY? IS THERE ANY INDICATIONS AROUND THAT? UM, THERE, THERE'S SOME, I GUESS YOU COULD SAY. SO LET'S SAY IF A CITIZEN CALLED AND SAID THAT THEY HAD AN INTERACTION WITH AN OFFICER AND LET'S JUST SAY PROCEDURE OR SOMETHING DIDN'T IDENTIFY WHO THEY WERE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, WOULD IT BE SOMETHING THAT MAYBE A, A SUPERVISOR DOESN'T IMMEDIATELY PUT DOWN ON THE FORM, BUT THE SUPERVISOR ADDRESSES THE INDIVIDUAL ON THAT PARTICULAR DAY AND CAN GO INTO THAT? UH, AND WE CAN DO THAT AND THE CHRONOLOGY AS WELL, THAT COULD FOLLOWS THROUGH. SO IF IT HAPPENS AGAIN, THEN WE KNOW THAT THERE'S A FOLLOW UP THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE IN THAT PROCEDURE ON FOLLOW UPS. ARE THE VIDEOS, THE, THE BODY CAMS, ARE THEY KEPT FOR A LONG PERIOD OF TIME? UH, YES SIR. SO WE'RE MANDATED BY THE STATE OF TEXAS TO REQUIRE ALL VIDEO FOR 90 DAYS, MAN, MINIMUM. BUT THEN THERE ARE CERTAIN CASES WHERE YOUR MISDEMEANORS AND YOUR FELONIES ARE REQUIRED TO BE RETAINED LONGER. SO FOR SITUATION, I'LL USE A MURDER CASE THAT'S INDEFINITE. UH, IT, IT NEVER GOES AWAY. IT HAS TO BE STORED ALL THE BODY CAMERA, ALL THE VIDEO IN CAR THAT'S INDEFINITE, THAT GOES IN THE STORAGE. UH, THAT'S WHY WE REALLY HAVE A CLOUD BASE. AND IT GOES INTO THAT TO WHERE A LOT OF THE STORAGE AMOUNT, UH, AND THAT'S WHY WE CHOSE THAT COMPANY FOR THAT REASON. SO THE POLICY IS 90 DAYS, UNLESS IT HAS SOME MINIMUM SOME VALUE. YES. IT'S, IT'S 90 DAYS MINIMUM, UH, FOR ANY VIDEO COURTING. ALRIGHTY. ANY MORE QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ON THIS ITEM? ALL RIGHTY. AND JUST TO TOUCH BASE ON THAT, RICHARD, THAT GOES INTO IT. SO IF YOU HAD A CITIZEN THAT CALLED AND TOLD US THERE WAS SOMETHING, IT COULD ALSO BE CHANGED IF THAT SUPERVISOR THOUGHT THAT THIS NEEDED TO BE RETAINED A LITTLE BIT LONGER, THEY COULD ALSO CHANGE THAT. BECAUSE IF YOU'LL REMEMBER WHEN IT WENT BACK AND TALKED ABOUT CIVIL SERVICE AND HOW MANY DAYS, 180 DAYS IS HOW LONG, YOU KNOW THAT IS, YOU CAN'T DISCIPLINE BEYOND THAT. SO IF A SUPERVISOR FELT THAT IT NEEDED TO BE DONE AND IT NEEDED TO GO BEYOND TO GIVE IA, THEY COULD ALSO CHANGE THAT TO, YOU KNOW, A ONE YEAR OR WHATEVER, UH, RETENTION TIME FOR THAT JUST IN CASE. SO, OKAY. HEY CHIEF, THANK YOU TO DR. MORENO'S POINT. WOULD THERE EVER BE A CASE THAT AN ENTIRE YEAR WOULD GO BY AND THERE WOULD BE ZERO PAPERWORK FILED ON ANY OF YOUR SWORN OFFICERS? I DON'T KNOW IF IT WOULD BE, UH, WITH THAT AMOUNT OF PEOPLE THAT WE HAVE EMPLOYED. UH, PROBABLY NOT. I MEAN, THERE WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE DONE IN THERE, UH, EVALUATIONS, UH, AGAIN, IN AN EMPLOYEE FILE EVALUATION, UM, YOU COULD HAVE A, YOU KNOW, PERFORMANCE NOTICE AND, AND IT'S SOMETHING YOU DID GOOD. YOU KNOW, AND, AND SO I THINK IF EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF GOOD THINGS THAT THE OFFICERS ARE DOING OUT THERE. SO THERE'S THINGS THAT, YOU KNOW, SUPERVISORS OR FELLOW OFFICERS ARE WRITING UP AND IT'S GOING INTO THEIR FILE TOO FOR THEIR EVALUATION. SO YEAH, TO YOUR POINT ON THE CITY SIDE, WE'VE GOT A NEO GOV SOFTWARE SYSTEM THAT REQUIRES THREE TIMES A YEAR. WE NORMALLY DO QUARTERLY EVALS. I MEAN, THERE ISN'T A QUARTER, I DON'T PHYSICALLY SIT DOWN AND HAVE CONVERSATION THAT'S DOCUMENTED WITH A DIRECTOR, BUT THREE TIMES A YEAR, THE SYSTEM MAKES YOU GO IN RIGHT. AND ACTUALLY HAVE THAT AND HAVE CONVERSATION. AND THAT'S, I THINK WHERE YOU'RE TRYING TO GO, IS TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE FACE-TO-FACE INTERACTIONS, NOT JUST THE RANDOM DRIVE BY, I'VE GIVEN YOU FEEDBACK, YOU DID GOOD. OR THERE'S SOMETHING I WORK ON. I THINK SHE'S TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S SOME KIND OF REGIMENTED, DOCUMENTED PROCESS THAT PEOPLE KNOW EXACTLY WHERE THEY STAND. BUT WHY ISN'T THERE? I DIDN'T SAY THERE WASN'T. I SAID, I'M JUST CATEGORIZING YOUR QUESTION, BUT, BUT, BUT IT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE THEY DO, SO I CAN'T ANSWER THAT. WE DO IT ON THE CITY SIDE. SO, SO, OKAY. SO, OKAY, NOW I'M CONFUSED BECAUSE HE'S GOT SWORN OFFICERS. THAT'S NOT THE SYSTEM THAT I WORK IN. SO THEY DON'T HAVE TO, THEY DON'T HAVE TO FOLLOW THE SAME SYSTEM AS THE CITY. HE WOULD HAVE TO ASK THAT. SO CIVIL SERVICE EMPLOYEES AREN'T DOING THE, THE SAME THING AS WHAT CITY DOES MM-HMM . UNDER THE CIVIL SERVICE EMPLOYEES. NO. THAT'S WHY THEY'RE, WE'RE DOING IT ON A DAILY BASIS RATHER THAN WAITING [00:20:01] ON A QUARTERLY BASIS OR HALF OR GOING BEYOND. AND THE OTHER THING IS THAT GOES WITH THAT, IS THAT EVALUATIONS ARE THERE, THAT IT COULD BECOME A COURT OF RECORD THAT GOES INTO PLAY, THAT A DEFENSE ATTORNEY WOULD USE THAT EVALUATION IN ORDER IN A COURT CASE AND COME BACK AND, UM, LET'S JUST SAY IF YOU'RE A VICTIM OF A CASE, AND THEN THE OFFICER'S IN THERE AND THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT AN EVALUATION THAT WAS DONE SIX MONTHS AGO BECAUSE THE GUY CAME IN TARDY. UH, SO CIVIL SERVICE DOESN'T, DOESN'T HAVE A, WHAT YOU SAY IS A STANDARDIZED CIVILIAN EVALUATION ON IT. SO THERE IS IT ESSENTIALLY AN INTERNAL EVALUATION THAT IS IN COMPLIANCE, IN COMPLIANCE WITH T COLE AND ALL OF THE STATE STATUTES? IS THAT, IS THAT, SURE. TT COLE DOESN'T SAY THAT YOU HAD, TCO HAS NO RULE, SAYS YOU HAVE TO GIVE A YEARLY EVALUATION AND NEITHER DOES BEST PRACTICES SAY THAT YOU HAVE TO HAVE AN EVALUATION. THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS GO INTO THAT IS THAT WE ARE EVALUATING ON A DAILY BASIS AND THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT THOSE AND WE TAKE DISCIPLINE WHEN IT HAPPENS AT THAT TIME OR INTERACTION, IT GOES TO IT. AND THEN ALSO A PERFORMANCE THAT IF YOU DID WELL IN IT, THAT YOU REWARD FOR THAT AT THAT PARTICULAR TIME IN EVENT. OKAY. AND THEN IT'S KEPT INTO A FILE YES. IN AN EMPLOYEE'S FILE. OKAY. YES. YOU AN YOU, THANK YOU FOR SUMMING, THANK YOU FOR SUMMING IT UP FOR ME, , APPRECIATE THAT. YEAH. IT'S CIVIL SERVICE REQUIREMENTS AREN'T THE SAME AS OURS, BUT I KNOW WHERE YOU ARE GOING WITH THAT IN TERMS OF DESIRING DOCUMENTATION, IF IN FACT YOU EVER WANTED TO DO SOMETHING RIGHT IN CIVIL SERVICE, DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE DO, BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR IS, IS THERE, UM, FEEDBACK FACE-TO-FACE CONVERSATION? RIGHT? AND IF IN FACT YOU HAD TO DO SOMETHING, IS THERE A FILE BEING BUILT? YEAH. THAT, THAT MAKES ME NERVOUS. WHAT YOU'RE, WHAT WHAT Y'ALL LIKE THAT YOU DON'T HAVE SOMETHING FORMAL MAKES ME NERVOUS. LIKE IF I WAS A CIVIL, IF I WAS TO WORK WITH FREE Y'ALL, I WOULD WANT SOMEONE TO EVALUATE ME AS DOCUMENTATION. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? BECAUSE FOR ME, IT'S, IT'S JUST PROOF THAT I'M DOING MY, MY WORK CORRECTLY. MM-HMM . THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S ACCOUNTABILITY AND THE WAY I LOOK AT IT NOW, THERE'S NO ACCOUNTABILITY THAT'S DOCUMENTED UNLESS YOU GET A, A, A CHECK MARK OR LIKE A MERIT. RIGHT. OR IF THERE'S SOME REALLY BIG CONCERN, WELL, NO, THERE, THERE'S ACCOUNTABILITY GOES INTO IT, JUST LIKE I SHOWED YOU WITH THE INTERNAL CONSULTATIONS AND THE OTHERS. MM-HMM . THERE'S ACCOUNTABILITY THAT'S STILL IN PLAY WITH THAT YOU'RE HELD ACCOUNTABLE DAILY, THAT GOES INTO YOUR INTERACTIONS FROM SHOW. RIGHT. BUT I'M TALKING ABOUT DOCUMENTED, BUT I MEAN, THAT'S WHERE THE SUPERVISORS, LIKE I SAID, THEY CAN GO THERE FROM A TARDINESS ALL THE WAY UP TO AN, UH, UNEXCUSED ABSENCE AND, AND FAILURE TO FOLLOW WORK ORDERS. THOSE ARE ALL LISTED UNDER THERE FOR LIKE THE VIOLATIONS THAT ARE THERE. MM-HMM . SO YOU HAVE AN INTERNAL HR DEPARTMENT, RIGHT? I'M SORRY? YOU HAVE YOUR OWN HR DEPARTMENT IN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT? YEAH. NO, IT'S CITIES INTERNAL AFFAIRS. I WORK ON A GRID ON MY SIDE. I APPARENTLY NEED A FLOW CHART. , CAN YOU GIMME AN ORG CHART PLEASE? . ALRIGHTY. ANY MORE ON THAT? ANY MORE DISCUSSION OR QUESTIONS ON THAT? THAT ITEM? ALRIGHT, LET'S MOVE ON TO ITEM [c. Receive and discuss positive engagement events and opportunities between officers of the Baytown Police Department and the citizens of the City of Baytown.] THREE C. AND IT'S RECEIVE AND DISCUSS POSITIVE ENGAGEMENT EVENTS AND OPPORTUNITIES BETWEEN OFFICERS OF THE BAYTOWN POLICE DEPARTMENT AND THE CITIZENS OF THE CITY OF BAYTOWN. SO THAT, THAT'S ON THE TOP PAGE HERE WITH YOUR POSITIVE ENGAGEMENTS IN OUR CITY. UM, YOU KNOW, TO START OFF WITH TWO OF THE PLATFORMS THAT WE, UH, UTILIZE QUITE A BIT, INSTAGRAM ACCOUNTS AND ALSO THROUGH THE BAYTOWN SUN. UM, WE HAVE, HERE'S THE INSTAGRAM ACCOUNT FOR BAYTOWN POLICE, THE FACEBOOK ACCOUNT. UM, THESE ARE JUST LIST OF THE COFFEE WITH A COP THAT HAD BEEN RECENT IN THE PARTICULAR AREAS THROUGHOUT TOWN. UM, THE POP-UP PARKS, THOSE ARE BASICALLY HELD ON SUNDAYS THAT THE CITY HAS HAD WITH, UH, DIFFERENT FIRE DEPARTMENT AND SUCH. AND OTHER DEPARTMENTS PARTICIPATING. UH, WE HAVE NEIGHBORHOOD WATCH COMMITTEES AND AS YOU CAN SEE, OF COURSE WITH THE PANDEMIC AND, UH, CHALLENGES FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, MOST OF THOSE ARE COMING BACK UP. UH, JUST TO TOUCH BASE ON THE NEIGHBORHOOD WATCH. SO I CAN LET Y'ALL KNOW THIS YEAR, THE NATIONAL NIGHT OUT WILL BE HELD AT TOWN SQUARE HERE ON TEXAS AVENUE. UH, WE'RE GOING TO ONE CENTRALIZED LOCATION SO THAT WE CAN BASICALLY DRAW IN ALL THE RESOURCES FROM WHAT WE HAVE IN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, FIRE DEPARTMENT, AND OTHER DEPARTMENTS THROUGHOUT THE CITY. UH, AND ALSO ATTRACTING THE CITIZENS TO THAT ONE LOCATION. UM, THIS HAS BEEN TESTED WITH SOME OTHER CITIES THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY AND THEY'VE HAD POSITIVE FEEDBACK [00:25:01] AND THE AMOUNT OF PE PEOPLE PARTICIPATING. THE OTHER GOAL OF THAT IS, IS THE GET NEIGHBORHOODS TALKING WITH NEIGHBORHOODS SO THAT YOU CAN ENGAGE WITH ONE ANOTHER ON THAT. UM, WE'RE, WE'RE NOT BASICALLY SAYING DISCOURAGING. YOU CAN'T, IF YOU'RE STILL HAVING A NEIGHBORHOOD WATCH AT YOUR OWN HOUSE, IT'S JUST THE IDEA THAT ALL OF OUR RESOURCES ARE GONNA BE AVAILABLE TOWN SQUARE. SO IF YOU WERE ASKING FOR OUR SWAT VEHICLES AND ALL THE OTHER BIG TOYS AND MOUNTED PATROL AND ALL THAT , IT'S GONNA BE CENTRALIZED IN ONE LOCATION. BUT, BUT THE DISTRICT UNIT WILL BE ENCOURAGED IF THERE'S LIKE, AREAS THAT ARE UP THERE THAT STOP BY AND SAY HI TO THOSE FOLKS. BUT WE'RE GONNA LOOK FOR THAT AND SEE HOW THAT WORKS OUT FOR US THIS YEAR. THEN THE, UH, CITIZENS ON PATROL WITH OUR CITIZENS POLICE ACADEMY ALUMNI, UM, OUR CIVIC ACADEMY, AND THIS IS A PROGRAM HOSTED BY THE LIBRARY AND THEY HAVE, UH, THE SWAT H AND TK NINE AND BIKE UNIT OFFICERS ATTEND. AND I'VE ALREADY JUST KIND OF TOUCHED BASE ON THE NATIONAL NIGHT OUT WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD GROUPS. AND THEN WE'VE ALSO INSTITUTED THIS LAST YEAR, BROUGHT IT ON FOR JULY 4TH, RIGHT BEFORE THAT TIME A LITTLE BIT. THE BIKE UNIT, UH, WE'RE EXPANDING THAT BIKE UNIT, UM, THAT GOES INTO PLAY. SO, UH, MATTER OF FACT, I HAVE, IN TWO WEEKS, I HAVE SEVEN MORE OFFICERS ATTENDING BIKE TRAINING, UH, TO GO THROUGH THAT. SO, UH, ONCE WE GET THEM CERTIFIED, IT GOES WITH THAT. WE'LL ALSO BE PURCHASING SOME MORE BIKES OR SO TO HAVE FOR THE DISTRICT UNITS THAT GO AROUND. YEAH. UM, CORPORAL OAS CAN GIVE US A FIRSTHAND EXPERIENCE. I HEARD HE ENDURED, UH, HELL WEEK. . THAT'S PRETTY TOUGH FOR A GUY MY AGE, , BUT I DID IT. . WELL, THANK YOU. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. AND THEN, OF COURSE, UM, ONE OF OUR BIGGEST PROGRAMS THAT WE'VE HAD THROUGHOUT THE YEARS OF THE BAYTOWN POLICE DEPARTMENT IS THE BEAR, UH, THE DARE PROGRAM. AND, UH, WE BASICALLY TEACH THREE TO FOUR CLASSES PER DAY, FOUR DAYS PER WEEK. UH, THE LIST OF THE SCHOOLS ARE ATTACHED HERE, THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS IN THE FIFTH GRADE AREA. UM, ONE OF THE BIG THINGS LIKE WE DISCUSSED IN THE PAST IS ONE OF THE, UH, KIND OF RESOURCES WE LOST WAS THE SRO PROGRAM, SCHOOL RESOURCE IN THE HIGH SCHOOLS. UH, ONCE GOOSE CREEK, ISD, YOU KNOW, BECAME ITS OWN POLICE DEPARTMENT, HAD IT HAS ITS OWN POLICE DEPARTMENT, OUR OFFICERS, YOU KNOW, WERE REMOVED FROM THERE IN THE HIGH SCHOOL ARENA. SO THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE ARE LOOKING TO TRY TO ENGAGE THOSE, UH, THAT GROUP, TEENAGE GROUP AND ADOLESCENTS THAT ARE THERE IN ORDER TO, UM, ENGAGE WITH POLICE OFFICERS IN DIFFERENT TYPE OF PROGRAMS. SO LOOKING AT A YOUTH ACADEMY FOR THOSE INDIVIDUALS TO BE ABLE TO PARTICIPATE AND, UM, SOME OTHER EVENTS THAT GO IN TO DRAW THEIR ATTENTION BACK INTO LAW ENFORCEMENT. AND THEN WE HAVE CRIME STOPPERS THAT'S IN EACH OF THE HIGH SCHOOLS. I DON'T KNOW IF ANY EVERYONE'S AWARE, BUT EACH OF THE HIGH SCHOOLS HAS THEIR CRIME STOPPERS PROGRAM THAT'S THERE. UM, SO, AND WE, WE DO IT TOO WITH WHAT YOU SEE HERE, IT SAYS THE P THREE CRIME STOPPERS PROGRAM, WHICH IS IN OUR TYPE OF PROGRAM THAT WE BROUGHT ALONG. THEY CAN ALSO TEXT THEIR, THEIR INFORMATION SO THEY DON'T HAVE TO NECESSARILY CALL. SO WE HAVE THE RESOURCES AVAILABLE TO TEXT AND, OR YOU COULD CALL HOWEVER YOU WANT TO GO ONLINE, BUT WE'VE OPENED THAT AVENUE TO ALL ARENAS THAT ARE THERE. SO THE DRAW IN THIS ALSO INCLUDES THE MIDDLE SCHOOLS TOO. YES. AND ALSO, HOW IS THE EXPLORERS PROGRAM EVOLVING? THAT WAS MENTIONED SEVERAL, SEVERAL MEETINGS AGO WITH, ITS FOR THOSE YOUNG PEOPLE THAT ARE INTERESTED IN, IN FOLLOWING LAW ENFORCEMENT AS A CAREER. HOW'S THAT EVOLVING? IT'S COMING BACK ONLINE. UM, YEARS AGO WE HAD A EXPLORER PROGRAM AND THEN IT BASICALLY DISSOLVED. WE WEREN'T GETTING A LOT OF PARTICIPATION OR GETTING A LOT OF INTERACTION WITH THE KIDS AT THAT PARTICULAR TIME. UM, BUT NOW WE'VE STARTED THAT EXPLORER PROGRAM BACK UP AND WE'RE BASICALLY ADVERTISING TO THE, THE GROUPS TO COME IN AND PARTICIPATE. SO AN EXPLORER PROGRAM IS LIKE A BOY SCOUT, IT'S A PART OF THE, KIND OF LIKE THE BOY SCOUTS THAT ARE ON THERE, BUT WE MENTOR, THEY COME INTO CLASS, YOU SHOW 'EM A LAW ENFORCEMENT BACKGROUND, AND THEN THEY GET THE OPPORTUNITY TO GO AND COMPETE AGAINST OTHER EXPLORER UNITS, UH, THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY. UH, SO THEY HAVE EVENTS THAT ARE THERE FOR LIKE CONVENTIONS OF THE EXPLORER PROGRAM, AND THEY GET TO GO OVER THERE AND TEST OUT THEIR, LIKE HANDCUFFING TECHNIQUES, THEIR, [00:30:01] UH, SEARCH, THEIR, YOU KNOW, ARREST PROCEDURES, THINGS LIKE THAT. AND THEY'RE GRADED UPON THOSE THROUGHOUT THAT CONVENTION. SO IT'S A GOOD PROGRAM AND WE, WE BASICALLY HAVE STARTED THAT. IT'S BASICALLY, I GUESS MAYBE A YEAR NOW, BUT IT'S REALLY COME BACK ONLINE AND WE'RE TRYING TO STRENGTHEN THAT AS WELL. SO GOOD THINGS COMING OUT OF IT, HOPEFULLY. YES, YES, SIR. DO WE HAVE ANY PRESENCE AT LEE COLLEGE? NO. LEE COLLEGE HAS ITS OWN SECURITY DEPARTMENT. SO THEY, THEY TAKE CARE OF LEE COLLEGE NOW WHEN THEY HAVE A, UH, SOMEONE WHO NEEDS TO BE ARRESTED OR ANYTHING, YES, THEY CONTACT US AND WE GO OVER THERE, BUT THEY HAVE THEIR OWN SECURITY THAT, UH, WALKS THROUGH THE HALLS AND BASICALLY MONITORS PARKING LOTS AND SUCH. DO WE HAVE ANY PROGRAMS INTEREST THAT THE, UM, THE STUDENTS? SURE. WE HAVE A CRIMINAL JUSTICE PROGRAM THERE. YES. MM-HMM . SO THE, THE EX-CHIEF OF POLICE, CHIEF DOHERTY, HE ALSO TAUGHT THERE AT LEE COLLEGE, YOU KNOW, LAW ENFORCEMENT CLASS. SO WE'VE HAD ENGAGEMENTS THAT'S THERE, BUT IT'S ALSO, UM, YOU KNOW, JUST GOING BACK AND INTERACTING WITH THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT THAT AGE GROUP, AS WE'VE EXPLAINED FROM THAT 18 TO 30, THAT THAT'S A BIG TARGET AREA THAT WE NEED TO ALSO BE, YOU KNOW, WE ALSO HAVE INTERNS THERE THAT COME WITH, UH, CRIME SCENE UNITS ALL THE TIME FROM THE COLLEGE. OKAY. SO THEY'RE TAKING, UH, CRIMINAL JUSTICE CLASSES AND THEY'LL COME AND DO AN INTERNSHIP WITH OUR CRIME SCENE FOLKS, UM, PRETTY REGULARLY. YEAH. AND WE'RE SUPPOSED TO START A, UH, A POLICE CAMP WAS LEE COLLEGE, BUT WHEN THE COVID HIT THAT, THAT STOPPED EVERYTHING. SO HOPEFULLY NEXT SUMMER WE'LL START THAT UP AGAIN. WOULD YOU REPEAT THAT ONE MORE TIME? YOU CAN BE, WE HAD, WE HAD, UH, GOT WITH LEE COLLEGE AND THEY WERE GONNA DO A HOST A POLICE CAMP FOR US. OKAY. UH, BUT WHEN THE COVID HIT, THEY, THAT KIND OF JUST STOPPED IN THE PAST. AND I'M, I MEAN, THERE'S SEVERAL THAT PROBABLY CAN AT LEAST POINT US IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION, BUT, YOU KNOW, KNOWING THAT LEE COLLEGE AND DOES HAVE A CRIMINAL JUSTICE PROGRAM AND KNOWING SOME OF THE THINGS THAT YOU'VE SAID IN THE PAST CHIEF HOLDEN ABOUT THE, THE INTEREST OF TRYING TO HIRE LOCAL, YOU KNOW, I KNOW WE'VE, WE'VE GOT A WIDE NET WITH OUR MILITARY AND ALL THAT. UM, JUST OUTTA CURIOSITY, DO WE HAVE A, A ROUGH NUMBER THAT OVER THE LAST 10 YEARS, HOW MANY OF THE, OF THE CA UH, CADETS THAT HAVE GONE THROUGH THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE, OR I GUESS IT'S NOT EVEN A POLICE ACADEMY, IS IT IS JUST CRIMINAL JUDGE, YOU DON'T HAVE A POLICE ACADEMY. YOU DO NOT HAVE A POLICE ACADEMY. MM-HMM. THAT NEGATES MY QUESTION. NEVERMIND. OKAY. NO, I COULDN'T, I WOULDN'T KNOW THE NUMBERS RIGHT NOW. WHAT'S COME FROM THERE. OKAY. UM, NICE. IF YOU WANT A LONG RUN. OH, WELL, I'M READY TO COLLABORATE WHEN Y'ALL READY TO COLLABORATE FOR A POLICE, SOME KIND OF LAW ENFORCEMENT BY ALL MEANS. WELL, SO IT GOES INTO THAT IS, UM, FOR YEARS, UH, HOUSTON GALVESTON AREA COUNCIL, HGAC MM-HMM . HAS, UH, REACHED OUT AND REALLY WANTS US TO DO OUR OWN POLICE ACADEMY MM-HMM. FOR THE REGION, SO FOR LIBERTY COUNTY, CHAMBERS COUNTY, EAST SIDE OF HARRIS COUNTY AND THESE OTHER COUNTIES OUTSIDE. BECAUSE YEARS AGO I WENT THROUGH OUR, WE HAD OUR OWN POLICE ACADEMY AND WE HAD THAT FOR YEARS. AND THEN WE QUIT DOING THE POLICE ACADEMY AND SENDING THEM TO U OF H DOWNTOWN AND AREA COMMUNITY COLLEGES FOR THEIR BASIC POLICE ACADEMY. SO WHAT DO YOU SAY WITH THE BENEFIT OF THAT? IF WE TEACH OUR OWN, THEN WE'RE ABLE TO ALSO SEE THAT OFFICER THROUGH THE WHOLE BASIC ACADEMY SO WE CAN SEE WHAT INTERACTIONS ARE OCCURRING THERE, WHERE IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT'S THERE, WE CAN ADDRESS IT EARLY THROUGH OUR OWN POLICE ACADEMY. BUT IT TAKES MANPOWER AND THAT'S WHY WE, YOU KNOW, QUIT DOING IT, IS BECAUSE THE AMOUNT OF MANPOWER IT TAKES TO RUN A POLICE ACADEMY FOR ALL THE HOURS, BECAUSE BASICALLY WHEN I WENT THROUGH IT IS LIKE 480 HOURS IS WHAT THE BASIC POLICE ACADEMY. NOW IT'S UP TO LIKE 1200 AND SOMETHING HOURS OF WHAT THE BASIC POLICE ACADEMY GOES THROUGH. SO YOU GOTTA MAKE SURE YOU GOT ENOUGH TEACHERS AND GOT ENOUGH TO GO THROUGH AND GET THAT, BECAUSE THE END RESULT IS YOUR TO SCORES MM-HMM . AND THAT'S HOW YOU'RE GRADED BY THE STATE OF TA TEXAS ON YOUR POLICE ACADEMY IS HOW WELL YOUR TCO SCORES ARE. SO WE DIDN'T EVER REALLY HAVE AN ISSUE. IT WAS ON THAT, I MEAN, WE WERE ABLE TO MEET OUR T COLE SCORES, BUT IT WAS JUST MANPOWER, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE STARTED RETIRING THAT WERE IN THAT. SO THAT IS ONE OF OUR THINGS THAT WE WANT TO DO IN THE NEAR FUTURE. AND IT'S JUST HAVING SPACE AVAILABLE TO DO THAT. SO HOPEFULLY WITH THE NEW, UH, PUBLIC SAFETY BUILDING, YOU KNOW, BEING DONE AND COMPLETED IN THE NEXT FEW YEARS, THEN THAT WILL OPEN UP SPACE WHERE CITY OF BAYTOWN CAN DO THAT AND HGAC CAN HELP OUT WITH SOME OF THAT GRANT FUNDING. AND WE CAN DO THAT LIKE WITH LEE COLLEGE AND OTHERS TO BRING IN TEACHERS AS WELL, [00:35:01] UH, FOR ALL THESE CLASSES. ALRIGHT. DO YOU DO KNOW THAT THE GOOSE, I'M SORRY, GOOSE CREEK HAS, UM, A LAW ENFORCEMENT ACA, ACA ACADEMY? NO. GOOSE CREEK HAS A LAW ENFORCEMENT IN THOSE. SO, UH, STEVE DENTON IS ONE OF THE OFFICERS THAT TEACHES IN GOOSE CREEK AND HE'S AN EX BAYTOWN POLICE OFFICER. MM-HMM . AND BEFORE HIM IT WAS GARY COCHRAN MM-HMM . THAT WAS A CAPTAIN WITH THE BAYTOWN POLICE DEPARTMENT. SO THEY DO A LAW ENFORCEMENT CLASS THERE, BUT IT'S NOT AN, WELL, THEY'RE WANTING TO EXPAND AND WE COULDN'T EXPAND BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE LAW ENFORCEMENT. AND SO THEY'RE GOING ELSEWHERE. SO IF YOU'RE INTERESTED, BY ALL MEANS, I WOULD LOVE TO BE ABLE TO BRING THAT. I THINK IT'S A PERFECT PLACE THAT'S OVER HERE, YOU KNOW, IF WE WERE ABLE TO ATTRACT IT'S INTO IT, BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, JUST HAVING THE SPACE AND THE, AND THE TEACHERS AND HAVING THE MANPOWER TO RUN IT, THAT, THAT BRINGS UP A POINT. AND, UH, I THINK IT'S, IT, IN MY MIND AT LEAST, IT, IT BRINGS THE CIRCLE AROUND OF, OF RECRUITING LOCAL. I JUST WONDER HOW MANY, I MEAN, THIS IS A HYPOTHETICAL QUESTION, BUT HOW MANY, HOW MANY STUDENTS HAVE GONE THROUGH THOSE PROGRAMS, GONE TO OTHER COLLEGES, GONE TO OTHER, OTHER POLICE ACADEMIES AND, YOU KNOW, LIVE IN THE CITY BUT WORK ELSEWHERE VERSUS WE'VE GOT POLICE OFFICERS THAT LIVE ELSEWHERE THAT DRIVE INTO THE CITY. SO, UM, THAT, THAT COULD BE A, YOU KNOW, FIVE YEAR, YOU KNOW, PLAN POTENTIAL TO, TO LOOK AT, TO POSSIBLY CLOSE THE, THE LOOP, SO TO SPEAK. SO. COOL. WELL, WE HAVE VISIONS FOR THAT. VISIONS. ALL RIGHT. WELL, GOOD. ALRIGHTY. ANY, ANY MORE COMMENTS ON THIS ITEM? ALRIGHTY. WELL THANK YOU CHIEF SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME ON THIS. IS, DID YOU HAVE ANY OTHER COMMENTS? ANYTHING STARTING MONDAY? UH, CHIEF JOHN STRINGER WILL BE HERE. HE'LL BE STARTING OFFICIALLY MONDAY THE 27TH, UH, THAT COMES ON BOARD. SO WILL THERE BE AN OFFICIAL SWEARING IN CEREMONY OR NO? UH, IT NOT SWEARING IN ON OUR SIDE OF IT BECAUSE HE'S GOTTA BE A T COLE OFFICER, SO. OKAY. SO HE WILL BE TAKING, ITLL BE ONCE HE RETREAT GETS THAT AND HE'S SWORN IN AS A POLICE OFFICER YES. IN THE STATE OF TEXAS. SO JUST FOR UNDERSTANDING. SO IT'S GONNA BE MORE ON THE ADMINISTRATIVE SIDE. YEAH. AND THEN, OKAY. ALRIGHTY. SO WE WILL STILL SEE YOU AROUND, OBVIOUSLY. OH, YES. GOOD, GOOD. WELL, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALL THAT YOU'VE DONE AND, UH, THE PACKET OF INFORMATION THAT YOU'VE PROVIDED FOR US TONIGHT. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. LET'S LOOK AT [d. Review, discuss and consider updates to the buckets of concern previously established by the Committee, which buckets include mental illness, positive engagement, training and development and transparency and accountability.] ITEM NUMBER 3D AND THAT IS TO REVIEW AND DIS REVIEW, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER UPDATES TO THE BUCKETS OF CONCERN PREVIOUSLY ESTABLISHED BY THE COMMITTEE, WHICH BUCKETS INCLUDE MENTAL ILLNESS, POSITIVE ENGAGEMENT, TRAINING AND DEVELOPMENT, AND TRANSPARENCY AND ACCOUNTABILITY. I WAS LOOKING AT OUR BUCKETS OF, OF, OF CONCERN. AND I THINK WE'VE, WE HAVE IN THE COURSE OF THIS YEAR ESPECIALLY, WE HAVE HIT ALL OF THE BUCKETS IN SOME REGARD. AND, UM, SO IS THERE SOMETHING SPECIFICALLY THAT IN JUST A, A FEW MOMENTS, IS THERE SOMETHING SPECIFIC THAT WE NEED TO CONSIDER FOR OUR UPCOMING MEETINGS THAT WILL ADDRESS CONCERNS FROM THIS, THIS COMMITTEE OR INPUT FROM THE COMMUNITY THAT, THAT YOU GUYS ARE REPRESENTING? SO THIS FOR ME ON THE TRANSPARENCY AND ACCOUNTABILITY, UM, FINDING WAYS TO RE TO REACH THE RESIDENTS WHO ARE RESISTANT. THAT IS, I THINK, SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD IDENTIFY, LOOK AT WHAT WE CAN DO, WHAT, WHAT CAN BE DONE, MAYBE WHAT OTHER CITIES ARE DOING. I THINK THAT THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT. IT'S, IT'S REACHING THOSE PEOPLE WHO ARE RESISTANT, LIKE IT SAYS TO ANY INTERACTION. I THINK WE NEED TO SEE IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT WE CAN DO TO IMPACT THAT. OKAY. SO FIND OUT WAYS TO REACH COMMUNITY THAT IS RESISTANT TO IT IS ONE ITEM. ANY OTHER ONES THAT COME TO MIND IN ADDITION TO WHAT RICHARD HAS BROUGHT UP? I THINK THAT IS A VERY GOOD ONE, AND I THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'VE HEARD FROM OUR CITIZENS' INPUT THAT I THINK IS, IS THE VOICE IS BEING HEARD. AND SO I I WOULD, I THINK THAT IS A VERY GOOD ONE, DR. MORENO. THANK YOU. I SAW THAT. LOOK, I WAS BEING, I WAS BEING PATIENT. I KNOW YOU WERE, YOU'RE DOING GOOD. THIS, ALL OF THIS INFORMATION WAS VERY HELPFUL IN TERMS OF WHAT KINDS OF, UH, TRAININGS. I FEEL LIKE IT A ANSWERS THE DEESCALATION TRAINING STUFF THAT WE TALKED ON THE FIRST BOX, UM, ANSWERED [00:40:01] MY QUESTION ABOUT ANNUAL EVALUATIONS AND THAT, THAT THERE ISN'T, AND THEN, UM, BUT I DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT WHETHER ANY KIND OF DIVERSITY TRAINING THAT'S HAPPENING WITHIN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. AND SO, UM, UNLESS I MISSED IT IN ANY OF THIS INFORMATION, MAYBE WE SHOULD CONSIDER LOOKING AT CONSIDERING SOME KIND OF DIVERSITY TRAINING OR CULTURAL SENSITIVITY TRAINING, BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE THAT'S A PART OF IT TOO. AND THAT COULD LEAD BE SOME OF THE REASONS WHY MM-HMM . RIGHT. SOME OF OUR, UH, COMMUNITY ARE RESISTANT. OKAY. AND SO, I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE DIVERSITY TRAINING GOING ON ALREADY, AND IF SO, IF YOU COULD BRING THAT CURRICULUM AND MAYBE PERSONALLY EMAIL ME WHAT THAT THAT LOOKS LIKE , THAT'D BE SUPER HELPFUL. SO YES, WE DO HAVE T COLE REQUIRES A CULTURAL DIVERSITY CLASS AS WELL, THAT'S ON THERE. SO I JUST, YES, IT'S A TOTALLY DIFFERENT COURSE THAT'S TAUGHT. SO CAN YOU, CAN YOU PROVIDE US THAT INFORMATION NEXT TIME I CAN PULL UP THAT LESSON PLAN FOR YOU AND STUFF? YES, YES. IF YOU CAN GET THE THICK PART OF IT. , I JUST, THE SYNOPSIS, THAT WOULD BE SUPER HELPFUL BECAUSE I, I MEAN, I WANNA SEE WHAT KIND OF DIVERSITY TRAINING, RIGHT? I MEAN, NOT TO, I MEAN, I MEAN THERE'S SO MUCH THAT'S COMING OUT NOW, SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE OF ALL THE STUFF THAT'S BEEN HAPPENING IN OUR SOCIETY. I MEAN, WE EVEN AT THE COLLEGE HAVE TO LOOK AT UPDATING STUFF. SO I JUST, IT'D BE CURIOUS TO SEE WHAT, WHAT'S BEING TAUGHT AND WHETHER OR NOT THERE'S ANY, I ASSUME THERE'S NO EVALUATION TIED TO ANY OF THESE TRAININGS. SO, UM, THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHTY. AND YOU WILL STILL BE COMING TO OUR MEETINGS, RIGHT? BECAUSE I, I FEEL LIKE I HAVE RAPPORT WITH YOU, . GOOD RAPPORT. OH, THAT'S UP TO DECISION OF THE CHIEF. OKAY. WELL, WE COULD ALWAYS MAKE, WE COULD ALWAYS MAKE SUGGESTIONS. ARE WE MAKING THAT'S WHAT I WAS GONNA SAY AS WELL. CHIEF WILL PROBABLY COME, I THINK I NEED TO CONTINUE WITH THE CHIEF HOLDEN COMING OVER AND, AND SINGING KUMBAYA WITH US. MM-HMM. OVER HERE. I, ON A MONTHLY BASIS. I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE OTHER MAN. I MAY RUN 'EM OFF EARLY. . ALL RIGHTY. SO THOSE ARE TWO GREAT SUGGESTIONS. UM, ARE THERE ANY OTHER ONES, ANY OF THE BUCKETS OF CONCERNS? SO UNDER, UM, WE NEVER WENT BACK AND TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE DATABASE. I KNOW YOU TALKED, WE, WE TALKED ABOUT THE CONCERNS WITH THE DATABASE IN TERMS OF BEING ABLE TO ADD THE, THE MENTAL HEALTH PIECE OF IT, BUT IT'S BEEN A LITTLE BIT SINCE BECAUSE WE GOT REALLY WRAPPED UP IN THAT MENTAL HEALTH PART OF IT, WHICH I'M NOT SURE IF WE GOT THE FORMS OUT TO OUR, OUR PRACTITIONERS YET. FORGOT TO ASK THAT QUESTION EARLIER. I'M TRYING TO TURN THIS ON AND OFF. SO, SO YES, THE, UH, PATCHES HAVE NOT, I CHECKED ON THOSE BEFORE I CAME. OKAY. UH, LIEUTENANT DORIS HAS BEEN OUT, HE WAS ILL FOR A COUPLE WEEKS, SO HE CHECKED TO MAKE SURE, UH, BUT THEY ARE ORDERED. OKAY. HE'S GONNA CALL TOMORROW AND FIND OUT WHERE THOSE ARE AT THE, UH, STICKERS, YOU KNOW, PATCHES. MM-HMM . HE DID GET THE LAPEL PINS FOR THE OFFICERS IN. UM, BUT WE HAVEN'T RECEIVED, AND THEN THE FORM WISE, YOU KNOW, IT JUST, BASICALLY WE'RE GOING TO PUT THE, UH, I THINK IF Y'ALL STILL HAVE IT OR NOT, I MEAN, I DON'T HAVE IT RIGHT HERE IN FRONT OF ME. I KNOW THAT, I THINK THERE WAS SOME, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, IT WAS KIND OF, WELL, I CAN PASS THIS AROUND TO WHERE QUESTIONS ON IT THAT WERE STILL BEING REVIEWED. I JUST HAVE ONE COPY OF THAT. BUT I MEAN, I CAN SHOOT IT AROUND AND YOU CAN SEE WHAT THE FRONT PAGE OF IT AND THEN WE'RE JUST GONNA BASICALLY PRINT THE FORM ON THE BACK END OF THIS AND TAKE THIS AROUND. YEAH. HAVE THAT JUST WHERE, AND CHIEF, I'LL RENEW MY, MY, UH, OPPORT MY OFFER TO YOU TO HELP. SURE. AT LEAST WITH THE, UH, CLINICIANS, THE, THE CLERK, THE PASTORS. I THOUGHT YOU TAKE CARE OF THE PASTORS. AND, UH, I HAVE, I HAVE, UH, ASK AROUND ABOUT, ABOUT THE, UH, BAY AREA MINISTERIAL ASSOCIATION AND, UH, WE'RE WORKING THROUGH GETTING IN CONTACT WITH THE SITTING PRESIDENT TO SEE IF WE CAN GET THE, THE LIST OF, OF, UH, OF EMAILS. I DID FIND OUT THE OTHER DAY, AND THIS WAS KIND OF CONCERNING, BUT I THINK IT WILL GIVE US A NEW OPPORTUNITY TO GET, GET INVOLVED IN THE COMMUNITY, UM, WAS TALKING TO, UH, LOCAL CONGRESSIONAL OFFICE THAT REPRESENTS BAYTOWN AND, UH, THERE COMMUNITY DIRECTOR SAID THAT THERE HAVE BEEN MULTIPLE CHURCHES CLOSED AS A RESULT OF COVID. SO IT, WE WILL, IT'LL BE A NEW CHALLENGE, BUT WE'LL GET CONNECTED WITH ALL THOSE MINISTERS. SO I RENEW MY OFFER THERE, SO AS SOON AS WE CAN, WE'LL, WE'LL GET STARTED ON THAT. ALRIGHTY. [e. Consider setting any tasks and processes for future meetings.] ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR SUGGESTIONS FOR OUR UPCOMING AGENDA? ALRIGHTYY? SO ARE YOU GONNA BE ABLE TO SHOW US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE DATABASE? 'CAUSE I KNOW WE HAD CONCERNS ABOUT THE DATABASE, WE CAN WAIT TILL ANOTHER TIME, BUT, UM, I DON'T WANT IT TO FALL. IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, DR. MORENO, AND I DON'T WANNA SPEAK OUTTA TERM, BUT NO, TELL ME. BUT I THINK THERE WAS A, UH, I THINK ONE OF THE BIG THINGS THAT WE, WE CAME UP AGAINST WAS THE [00:45:01] HIPAA GUIDELINES MM-HMM . AND ALSO SOME PRIVACY ISSUES. AND THAT THE FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT DOES GIVE THEM OPPORTUNITY MM-HMM . BUT THE MAJORITY OF THAT HAS TO GO THROUGH THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE AND IN ORDER TO BE IN COMPLIANT WITH VARIOUS STATE AND FEDERAL STATUTES. SO, UM, THAT WAS MY TAKE ON THAT AS FAR AS THE INFORMATION THAT WAS COMING OUT OF IT. AM AM AM AM I MISUNDERSTANDING YOUR, YOUR QUESTION THAT YOU'RE POSING REGARDING THE DATABASE. I THINK MY ORIGINAL QUESTION WAS, ARE YOU ABLE TO PULL INFORMATION AS IT PERTAINS TO LIKE HOW MANY PEOPLE THAT YOU, YOU PULL OVER ETHNIC ETHNICITY, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, ALL THOSE DIFFERENT, THE SOCIOECONOMIC STATUS OF THE, THE PEOPLE THAT ARE BEING EITHER ARRESTED OR ARE IN VIOLATION? THAT WAS THE QUESTION THAT I HAD. SO, SO THAT, WELL, THAT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN ALL THAT INFORMATION IS DONE ON A RACIAL PROFILING REPORT YEARLY. OKAY. THAT THE STATE OF TEXAS REQUIRED HAS REQUIRED ALL AGENCIES IN TEXAS SINCE EARLY TWO THOUSANDS. UM, STATE OF TEXAS HAS BEEN WELL ADVANCED OVER OTHER STATES. I LOOK AT INTERNATIONAL CHIEF AS POLICE ASSOCIATION NOW, AND THERE'S OTHER STATES LIKE MASSACHUSETTS AND PENNSYLVANIA AND ALL THE ONES UP NORTHEAST THAT ARE JUST STARTING TO DO RACIAL PROFILING. STATE OF TEXAS HAS BEEN DOING IT FOR OVER 20 YEARS. AND, BUT THOSE RACIAL PROFILING REPORTS ARE, ARE REPORTED TO T COLE WHO IS THE ADMINIS OR TCLS UNDER T COLE. MM-HMM . AND THOSE ARE AVAILABLE TO CITIZENS. YOU CAN GO ONLINE AND YOU CAN GET THE CITY OF BAY TOWN'S, UM, RACIAL PROFILING REPORT OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS. ALSO YEARLY, UH, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IS REQUIRED TO COME TO COUNCIL AND PRESENT THAT RACIAL PROFILING INFORMATION TO COUNCIL AS WELL. OKAY. SO IF THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE ASKING ABOUT. YES. THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE IN DIFFERENT ETHNICITIES BEING STOPPED, I MEAN, IT BREAKS IT DOWN TO, YOU KNOW, MALE FEMALE ALSO, UH, WHAT TYPE OF CHARGE WAS THERE? IF THERE WAS A WARNING? UM, IT'S VERY IN DEPTH, UH, OVER THE LAST TWO OR THREE YEARS, TCO WAS REALLY ADDED MORE INFORMATION INTO THAT FORM. SO THAT'S HELPFUL IF THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR, YOU CAN GET THAT NOW BY GOING TO, I CAN GOOGLE IT. T COLE'S RACIAL PROFILING REPORT. PULL IT UP. PERFECT. IS IT T-C-O-L-E? RIGHT. T-C-O-L-E. OKAY. MM-HMM . YES. ALRIGHT, THAT'LL BE HELPFUL. THANK YOU. AND YOU CAN, OR YOU CAN GOOGLE CITY OF BAYTOWN RACIAL PROFILING REPORT. YEAH. AND IT'LL TAKE YOU BASICALLY TO THEIR WEB PAGES AS WELL. SO, SO INFORMATION IS AVAILABLE, IT'S JUST A MATTER OF WHERE, WHERE, WHERE WE CAN GET IT, RIGHT? YEAH. I MEAN, SO ALL THAT'S KEPT THROUGH AND THOSE, THOSE ARE ALL STOPS, TRAFFIC STOPS, PEDESTRIAN CONTACTS THAT ARE COMING IN. NOW, SOMEBODY IN A REPORT THAT GOES INTO A REPORT, SOME OF THE INFORMATION MAY BE INCLUDED IN THAT AS WELL, BUT IF YOU'RE LIKE GOING TO YOUR MENTAL HEALTH SIDE OF IT AND WANNA SAY, WELL, HOW MANY CALLS ARE WE RESPONDING TO MENTAL HEALTH WISE? THEN WE CAN, WE, WE DO THAT AS WELL. WE CAN PULL THAT UP IN A COMPLAINT MM-HMM . FORMAT AND SEE HOW MANY CALLS OF SERVICE YOU JUST WOULDN'T GET. LIKE, UM, ERIC WAS SAYING, YOU'RE NOT GONNA GET THE PERSONAL INFORMATION AND ALL THE MEDICAL HISTORY ABOUT THAT INDIVIDUAL MM-HMM . BUT IF SOMEBODY SAID, I WANT TO KNOW HOW MANY MENTAL HEALTH CALLS DID BAYTOWN POLICE DEPARTMENT RESPOND TO FROM AUGUST TO AUGUST 1ST TO 31ST, UH, WE CAN TELL YOU THIS IS HOW MANY CALLS WE'VE RESPONDED TO IN THAT REGARD. PERFECT. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. DO WE HAVE ANY MORE ITEMS TO DISCUSS IN OUR UPCOMING MEETINGS? SO LIKE IN A MONTH WE'LL HAVE MORE INFORMATION IN TERMS OF THE FORM BEING OUT AND WHERE WE CAN HELP IN GETTING THAT FORM OUT TO THE PRACTITIONERS AND, OKAY. UM, MY HOPES ARE AS SOON AS WE GET THE STICKERS IN, WE WILL HAVE ALL THE FORMS PRINTED UP AND DONE, AND THEN WE CAN BASICALLY TOUCH BASE WITH MINISTERIAL AND THEN ALSO, EXCUSE ME, AND GO TO THE CLINICIANS AND REACH OUT TO THE LOCAL CLINICIANS IF WE WANT TO MAKE A VISIT, YOU KNOW, IF THEY WANT THE FORMS THERE. SO ONCE YOU HAVE THE FORM, IT WAS BROUGHT TO, UM, TO THE CSOC, COUNCILMAN, COMMUNITY SERVICE OFFICER, COUNCILMAN JOHNSON HAD MADE A, A COMMENT, UH, AT THE CITY WHEN WE, WHEN WE DID THE PRESENTATION MM-HMM . AND HE LOOKED AT ME SPECIFICALLY AND WANTED ME TO SHARE IT WITH HOWARD BIHAR, WHO'S OUR DRUG AND ALCOHOL, UM MM-HMM . OVER. SO, AND I THINK YOU REMEMBER HIM SAYING THAT, RIGHT? YEAH. I'VE WORKED WITH HOWARD. SO IF YOU CAN, CAN, IF YOU COULD FORWARD THAT TO ME SO I CAN FORWARD IT AND CHECK MARK THAT FOR COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL, BECAUSE I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT HE GETS THE INFORMATION AS WELL FOR HIS, FOR HIM TO, YOU KNOW, PASS IT OUT. UNLESS YOU WANNA GET AHOLD OF ARD, THAT'S FINE. NO, I, WITH, WITH HIM AND JOHN HAVNER, I'VE WORKED WITH ALL THEM PERFECT. IN PAST AND CAN MM-HMM [00:50:01] . AND, UH, THERE ARE OTHER INITIATIVES THEY'VE HAD THROUGHOUT THE CITY FOR YEARS. SO NO, WE'LL HAVE IT AVAILABLE TO WHERE OKAY. DO IT A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT WAYS IF YOU WANNA SEND IT TO HIM AND JUST LET ME KNOW. I COULD TELL COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, UNLESS YOU WANT DIRECTLY REPORT TO HIM, I'M HAPPY TO DO THAT FOR YOU. DOES IT MATTER? AS LONG AS HE KNOWS HE GOT TO BUSH SHARK, . GOT IT. I MEAN, GET HER DONE. YEAH. GOT IT. YEAH. ALRIGHT. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU. SOUNDS GOOD. WELL, MR. ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER KE KEVIN TROLLER. SO I WOULD BE, GIVE SOME GUIDANCE HERE, MR. THE VERY FIRST THING I DIDN'T DO WASN'T TO THANK CHIEF HOLDEN FOR ALL HE'S DONE. MM-HMM . AS OUR INTERIM. IT'S BEEN GREAT WORKING WITH HIM. ABSOLUTELY. THE INFORMATION THAT HE'S PROVIDED, NOT ONLY TO THIS FORUM, BUT CCPD ELSEWHERE IN COUNCIL MEETINGS HAS BEEN EXTRAORDINARY. SO CHIEF, IT'S BEEN A PLEASURE WORKING WITH YOU. THANKS FOR EVERYTHING. UH, THANK ALL OF Y'ALL. UM, THIS IS YOUR, YOUR TIME. YOU DON'T GET PAID TO COME DO THIS MM-HMM . SO I APPRECIATE GIVEN THE DAYS THAT YOU HAVE, THAT YOU TAKE THE TIME AND THE INTEREST TO DEAL WITH THE ISSUES. FOR ME PERSONALLY, IT'S WHEN THOSE ISSUES ARISE IN SOCIETY THAT CAUSE US TO DO, LIKE WE DID THE ONE MEETING AND, AND BASICALLY HEAR FROM PEOPLE, I THINK, UM, THAT'S WHAT PEOPLE LIKE TO DO WITH YOU. ALSO, I APPRECIATE THE TIME THAT, THAT YOU DEVOTE TO THIS. OUR NEXT SCHEDULED MEETING IS TUESDAY, OCTOBER 26TH, 6:00 PM HERE IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS. AND I APPRECIATE Y'ALL. I HAVE A QUESTION. UH, WILL THAT, WILL THERE BE A ZOOM OPTION FOR THAT? NO, NO MORE ZOOMS. NO MORE ZOOMS. OKAY. WENT AWAY SEPTEMBER 1ST. WHY? WHAT HAPPENED? WE FORGOT THAT WE'RE IN A PANDEMIC. I'M JUST KIDDING. . JUST KIDDING ORDER. JUST KIDDING ORDER. WE. ALL RIGHTY. SO, BEING THAT THE COMMITTEE HAS ADDRESSED ALL THE POST AGENDA ITEMS, I WILL NOW ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ADJOURN. OKAY. I'VE RECEIVED A MOTION. MAY I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. THANK YOU. I HAVE A MOTION AND A QUICK SECOND. MAY ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? WE ARE CONCLUDED AT 6:58 PM. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.