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          ORDER THIS WORK SESSION AT THE BAYTOWN CITY COUNCIL FOR JUNE 24TH, 2021. 
          ANNOUNCED WE DO HAVE A QUORUM. 
          THE TIME IS NOW 5:31 PM UH, FIRST ITEM ON THE AGENDA, ITEM 
          [a.  Discuss a roadway maintenance project on Ward Road.]
ONE A, DISCUSS A ROADWAY MAINTENANCE PROJECT ON WARD ROAD. 
          UH, GOOD EVENING, MAYOR TO PRO TIM AND COUNCIL. 
          UM, TODAY I WANT TO GIVE YOU A BRIEF PRESENTATION ON WARD ROAD AND LOOK AT SOME OF THE OPTIONS THAT WE HAVE FOR, UH, IMPROVING THIS AREA. 
          THIS, UH, WARD ROAD'S BEEN ON OUR RADAR FOR QUITE SOME TIME. 
          IT, UM, YOU KNOW, DOESN'T HAVE A GOOD ROAD CONDITION. 
          UM, THE MEDIANS ARE, YOU KNOW, AESTHETICALLY NOT VERY PLEASING AT ALL. 
          UH, IT LOOKED VERY POOR AND IT REALLY BRINGS DOWN THE, THE, UH, LOOKS OF THE AREA. 
          SO, UH, WE TRIED TO THINK ABOUT THINGS THAT WE COULD DO TO IMPROVE, UM, BOTH THE ROAD CONDITION AND THE AESTHETICS. 
          SO JUST HAVE A BRIEF AGENDA FOR YOU. 
          UH, LOOK AT THE EXISTING CONDITIONS, COUPLE OF OPTIONS, AND THEN, UH, WHAT WE'RE RECOMMENDING, AND WE'LL BE SEEKING YOUR CONCURRENCE ON OUR RECOMMENDED PLAN. 
          SO, AS I SAID, THE EXISTING CONDITIONS, YOU'VE GOT A PAVEMENT THAT'S, UM, SOMEWHAT DETERIORATED. 
          UH, MOST OF THE SECTIONS HAVE PCIS IN THE FIFTIES OR SIXTIES, UH, WHICH IS NOT TERRIBLE, BUT IT'S, IT'S NOT THE BEST EITHER. 
          UM, THE TRAFFIC VOLUME IS NOT THE HIGHEST FOR A THOROUGHFARE. 
          THERE ARE, YOU KNOW, OTHER ROADS WITH MUCH HIGHER VOLUMES. 
          SO, UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IN LOOKING AT DOING REHABILITATION ON IT, IT'S PROBABLY, IT, IT HASN'T RISEN TO THE TOP OF THE LIST. 
          AND, UM, SO LET ME, UH, GET INTO THE OPTIONS HERE. 
          FIRST THING WE GENERALLY LOOK AT FOR A ROAD LIKE THIS IS DOING FULL RECONSTRUCTION, AND THAT'S, YOU KNOW, TEARING OUT ALL THE PAVEMENT, REPLACING THE BASE MATERIAL, UH, AND REINSTALLING THE PAVEMENT, REDOING THE MEDIANS, SETTING THE GRADES FOR DRAINAGE, UM, AND THEN ADDING SIDEWALKS, LIGHTING, THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          UH, THE ESTIMATED COST OF DOING A PROJECT LIKE THAT IS AROUND $12 MILLION. 
          AND AS I SAID, UM, WE'VE WANTED TO DO SOMETHING ON WARD FOR A WHILE, BUT HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO, UH, YOU KNOW, PROGRAM THE FUNDS FOR TO DO THE FULL RECONSTRUCTION. 
          SO THE OTHER OPTION WE HAD, UM, THAT WE DEVELOPED IS TRYING TO IMPROVE THE WRITING SURFACE AND TRY TO BRING UP THE AESTHETICS OF THE, UH, OF THE MEDIANS AND THE LIGHTING. 
          SO, LOOKING AT WHAT WE COULD DO, UM, FIRST THING WE WOULD DO IS TRY TO REPAIR THE BASE. 
          UH, THERE ARE SOME AREAS WHERE, UH, IT'S CONCRETE PAVEMENT, SO WE CAN USE THAT AS A GOOD BASE. 
          AND THERE ARE A FEW, UH, AREAS THAT HAVE CRACKS OR SHIFTED JOINTS. 
          UH, SO JUST MAKING, MAKING SOME SPOT REPAIRS ON THE AREAS THAT ARE CRACKED. 
          AND THEN, UM, SEALING ALL THE JOINTS. 
          SO WE'VE HAD, UH, A NEW PRODUCT THAT WE'VE USED ON, UH, LIKE ON, UH, GARTH ROAD SOUTH OF 1 46. 
          THAT, AGAIN, IS A CONCRETE, UH, PAVEMENT UNDER ASPHALT. 
          AND SO THE PROBLEMS WE HAD THERE BEFORE WAS YOU WOULD GET THESE, UH, CRACKS THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, PROPAGATE THROUGH THE ASPHALT BECAUSE THERE'S WATER INTRUSION COMING UP FROM THE BASE. 
          AND WE CAN NEVER FIND A PRODUCT THAT WOULD ADEQUATELY SEAL OUT THOSE JOINTS AND CRACKS SO THAT THE WATER DOESN'T COME UP THROUGH THE ASPHALT AND PRODUCE CRACKS. 
          IT'S THE SAME THING WE HAVE OUT HERE ON MARKET STREET. 
          YOU DRIVE MARKET STREET, YOU GET THOSE BUMPS EVERY, YOU KNOW, 20, 30 FEET. 
          THAT'S WATER COMING UP THROUGH THE CONCRETE PAVEMENT AND, YOU KNOW, UM, PRODUCING CRACKS WITHIN THE ASPHALT SURFACE. 
          SO WE HAVE, WE NOW HAVE A PRODUCT THAT WE'VE USED ON, UH, GARTH, WHICH ADEQUATELY SEALS OUT THE WATER. 
          UH, WE THINK IT'S, IT'S WORKED WELL. 
          SO, UM, WE'D LIKE TO DO THAT ON WARDROBE. 
          UM, AND THEN PLACE WHAT WE CALL A, UH, A 
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LEVEL COURSE OF ASPHALT THAT JUST HELPS TO LEVEL OUT THE BASE. 
          AND THEN WE COME ON TOP OF THAT WITH A, UH, SURFACE COURSE OF ASPHALT THAT'S TWO INCHES, AND IT WOULD PROVIDE A SMOOTH RIDING SURFACE FOR THE PAVEMENT. 
          UM, WE WOULD ALSO IMPROVE THE, UH, THE MEDIANS. 
          SO RIGHT NOW THEY'RE, UM, AS I SHOWED YOU BEFORE ON, UH, THESE PHOTOS, THEY'RE, THEY'RE, UH, ASPHALT, UH, MEDIANS THAT DON'T LOOK VERY GOOD. 
          SO WE'D LIKE TO DO A SIMILAR TREATMENT, UH, THAT WE DID TO, UM, GARTH ROAD AND DOING OUR COLORED AND STAMPED CONCRETE, AND WE CAN DO THAT IN HOUSE. 
          UM, SO THE MEDIANS WE THINK WOULD, WOULD LOOK MUCH BETTER. 
          WE WOULD LEAVE, UH, SPACE FOR PLANTING OF TREES WITHIN THE MEDIANS. 
          WE MAY NOT LEAVE THE SAME TYPE OF OPENINGS THERE FOR THE, UH, YOU KNOW, THE BUSH PLANTINGS, BUT AT LEAST HAVE SPACE FOR TREES, UH, BECAUSE, UH, WARD HAS MUCH WIDER MEDIANS. 
          AND SO WE THINK WE COULD GET MAYBE MORE, UH, FULL-SIZED TREES WITHIN THERE. 
          AND THAT WOULD REDUCE THE BA THE MAINTENANCE REQUIREMENTS OF, UH, FOR PARKS, HAVING TO MAINTAIN THE, THE PLANTINGS THERE. 
          UM, AND THEN WE'D ALSO IMPROVE THE, UH, THE LIGHTING CONDITIONS AND, UH, REPLACE THE, THE LIGHTS WITHIN THE MEDIANS WITH, UH, BLACK POWDER COATED LIGHTS AND LED HEADS. 
          UH, SO THAT'S THE BASICS OF THE PROJECT. 
          UH, THE COST, AS I SAID, FOR THE PROPOSED, UH, IMPROVEMENTS, UH, ABOUT 665,000. 
          THAT'S, UH, THE PAVEMENT COST WOULD BE DONE UNDER OUR MILANO LAKE CONTRACT WITH, UH, ANGEL BROTHERS. 
          THE MEDIAN COST WOULD COME OUT OF OUR OPERATING BUDGET, UH, WITH OUR CONCRETE CREWS. 
          WE WOULD DO THAT IN-HOUSE. 
          UH, THE PAINTING, UH, OF THE TRAFFIC SIGNALS IS ALREADY STARTED. 
          UH, THAT'S KIND OF A MINOR COST REPLACING OF THE LIGHT POLES, UM, WOULD BE DONE WITH CENTER POINT ENERGY. 
          AND WE WOULD JUST NEED TO, UM, IDENTIFY THE FUNDS FOR THAT. 
          AND, AND WE, WE THINK WE HAVE THAT WITHIN OUR CIP CONTINGENCY. 
          SO AGAIN, IT WOULD LEAVE THE PROJECT WITH, I THINK, A, A VERY NICE PRODUCT THAT WILL LAST US AT LEAST 10 YEARS. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, LIKE I SAY, AND WITH THE, THE NEW PRODUCT TO SEAL THE JOINTS, WE FEEL LIKE IT COULD LAST A LOT LONGER THAN THAT. 
          AND THOSE, THIS IS SOMETHING WE CAN DO NOW RATHER THAN HAVING THE PROGRAM IN WARD ROAD, UH, YEARS FROM NOW IN THE CIP. 
          SO, UH, WE'RE, WE'RE RECOMMENDING THIS COURSE OF ACTION AND, UH, BEFORE WE TAKE ON SOMETHING MAJOR LIKE THIS, WE WANTED TO COME TO COUNCIL AND GET YOUR CONCURRENCE. 
          AND, UH, SO THAT'S WHAT WE ARE HERE FOR. 
          AND I'LL TAKE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS YOU HAVE NOW. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          UH, COUNCILMAN PRESLEY, I BELIEVE MOST OF THIS IS IN YOUR DISTRICT. 
          SO TWO QUESTIONS, FRANK. 
          YEP. 
          ON THE THREE INCHES OF ASPHALT, ARE THERE, ARE WE GOOD WITH THE HEAVY TRUCK TRAFFIC THAT WILL COME IN AND OUT OF MCCOY'S AND CENTER POINT ACROSS THE STREET? I MEAN, IT'S, IS IT THE, THE HEAVY TRUCKS WON'T DAMAGE THE THREE INCHES OF ASPHALT. 
          RIGHT? SO YOUR BASE, YOUR BASE, YOUR BASE IS CARRYING THE LOAD OKAY. 
          OF THAT. 
          AND, AND RIGHT NOW IT'S THAT CONCRETE PAVEMENT. 
          OKAY. 
          SO, UM, WE DON'T GO ANY THINNER THAN THAT BECAUSE WHEN YOU HAVE TURNING MOVEMENTS OF THE TRUCKS, IT CAN CAUSE THAT ASPHALT TO, TO PUSH YOUR SHOVE. 
          SO THIS THREE INCHES, UH, GIVES YOU ENOUGH SURFACE TO WHERE IT WON'T CAUSE THAT. 
          OKAY. 
          AND I'VE ALSO HAD A FEW RESIDENTS THAT LIVE EITHER NORTH OR SOUTH OF WARD ROAD, ASK IF THERE WERE ANY OPTIONS OR POSSIBILITIES TO LOCATE A FEW STRATEGIC TURNING LANES. 
          UH, AND I KNOW THAT MAY BE A TOUGH CHORE IF WE DON'T HAVE ADDITIONAL RIGHT. 
          OF, WELL KNOW THE AREAS OF CONCERN, WE CAN LOOK AT THAT. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          SURE. 
          THAT'S ALL THE QUESTIONS I HAD, BUT I GUESS JUST A FINAL COMMENT IS THAT, YOU KNOW, CONSIDERING THE TRAFFIC VOLUME AND THE VISIBILITY OF THE STREET, I WOULD, I WOULD BE IN FAVOR OF THIS OPTION. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, I I, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO ALWAYS MATCH THOSE CHARACTERISTICS WITH THE OPTIONS THAT ARE CHOSEN. 
          I THINK THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT. 
          UM, I'M GLAD WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IT FIRST. 
          YOU KNOW, IT GIVES US A CHANCE TO TALK ABOUT, AND I THINK THIS WAS ACTUALLY, I THINK COUNCILWOMAN BETTEN KOTH ACTUALLY MENTIONED IT. 
          YOU KNOW, IT GIVES US A CHANCE TO TALK ABOUT THINGS LIKE SIDEWALKS AND TURNING LANES AND LANDSCAPING AND, AND POWER CODED LIGHT POLES AND THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          SO I'M, I'M VERY HAPPY WE'RE ABLE TO DISCUSS IT BEFOREHAND OKAY. 
          AND GET OUR FEEDBACK. 
          OKAY. 
          GOOD. 
          ON, ON HIS COMMENT ON THE TURNING LANES, UM, SINCE WARD ROAD HAS UNUSUALLY WIDE MEDIANS, 
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MAYBE AN OPTION WOULD BE TO NARROW THEM SOME TO ACCOMMODATE TURNING LANES. 
          YEAH. 
          MAYBE, UM, WE CAN LOOK AND SEE IF THERE'S AREAS THAT NEED MORE TURNING LANES. 
          UM, I, I DON'T WANNA DO WHOLESALE CHANGES TO THE MEDIANS THAT THAT KIND OF DRIVES UP OUR COSTS AND YEAH. 
          YOU KNOW, WILL MAKE IT, UH, MORE DIFFICULT. 
          YEAH. 
          BUT WOULD YOU JUST TAKE A LOOK AND SEE IF THERE'S ANY, BUT IF THERE'S SPECIFIC TO THE RESIDENTIAL AREAS. 
          RIGHT. 
          OKAY. 
          ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS, HEATHER? YES, SIR. 
          OKAY. 
          ONE QUESTION IN COMMENTS. 
          UM, WE'RE RAISING THE, THE, THE ROAD UP THREE INCHES, OR IS THAT GONNA BE ACCOMMODATED IN THE, THE PREP WE'RE GONNA GRIND DOWN THREE INCHES. 
          NO, WE'RE NOT. 
          SO IT DOES TAKE UP SOME OF YOUR GUTTER. 
          UM, AND, AND THAT'S ONE OF THE TRADE TRADE-OFFS OF OKAY. 
          OF A PROJECT LIKE THIS. 
          BUT, AND, AND THE REASON I ASK THAT, I'VE SEEN A LOT OF THE ROADS, NOT A LOT. 
          I'VE SEEN SOME OF THE ROADS WHERE WE'VE GONE BACK AND PUT THAT OVERLAY ON, AND THE STREET IN OF IT IS HALF CAPACITY OF WHAT IT USED TO BE. 
          WELL, CAN, YOU CAN FEATHER IT OUT ONCE YOU GET TO THE GUTTER LINE. 
          MM-HMM . 
          BUT, UH, IT, IT WILL TAKE UP SOME OF YOUR CAPACITY THERE. 
          AND LIKE I SAY, IT'S, IT'S NOT, UM, YOU KNOW, THE PERFECT SOLUTION, BUT IT, UH, I THINK THE BENEFITS FAR OUTWEIGH THE COST. 
          NO DOUBT. 
          THIS AREA, THE MAIN SECTION OF IT IS, IS IN NEED. 
          RIGHT. 
          UH, THE LITTLE BIT FROM ALEXANDER DANINO WOULD, THAT'S GONNA BE NICE AS WELL. 
          UM, THE POWDER COATING, THE LIGHT POLES AND STUFF, Y'ALL HAVE DONE SOME ON ALEXANDER AND I, I TELL YOU, THEY'RE, THEY'RE NICE. 
          IF YOU HAVEN'T SEEN SOME OF THE IMPROVEMENTS ON THE LIGHT SIGNALS AND STUFF THERE, IT'S, IT IS REALLY NICE. 
          SURE. 
          UH, SO I, I THINK THIS IS A GREAT OPTION. 
          UM, AGAIN, STALL IT OFF 10 MAYBE SO MORE YEARS. 
          UM, 12 MILLION VERSUS $660,000. 
          Y'ALL ARE THINKING THE WAY WE WANT YOU TO THINK. 
          WITHOUT A DOUBT. 
          YEAH. 
          LIKE, THIS HAS BEEN ON OUR RADAR FOR A LONG TIME. 
          JUST TRYING TO THINK OF SOMETHING WE COULD DO TO HELP THIS AREA. 
          EXCELLENT. 
          GOOD JOB. 
          ON, ON THE LIGHTS. 
          UM, SO THE, THE STOPLIGHTS, THE TRAFFIC SIGNALS, WE'VE BEEN PAINTING THOSE MM-HMM . 
          AND WE DID LOOK AT THAT OUT HERE. 
          UM, CENTER POINT RECOMMENDED AGAINST IT ON THE ACTUAL STREET LIGHTS. 
          WE'VE NEVER PAINTED ANY OF OUR STREET LIGHTS 'CAUSE THEY'RE NOT, THEY'RE NOT OUR INFRASTRUCTURE. 
          RIGHT. 
          UM, WE DID LOOK AT THAT AS AN OPTION. 
          CENTERPOINT RECOMMENDED AGAINST IT. 
          THOSE STREET LIGHTS OUT THERE ARE REALLY OLD MM-HMM . 
          AND THEY SAID THAT IS NOT A GOOD IDEA. 
          SO THAT BUMPS UP THE PRICE JUST A LITTLE BIT, OBVIOUSLY TO GET NEW STREET LIGHTS, BUT I THINK IT'S, IT'S WORTH IT FOR SURE. 
          YEAH. 
          IT'S, IT'S A TRADE OFF. 
          I AGREE. 
          BUT YEAH. 
          GREAT CONCEPT. 
          ANY OTHER COMMENTS? WHAT WE SEE THE DIFFERENCE IN COST? OBVIOUSLY IT'S, IT'S A GOOD OPTION. 
          WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE IN THE TIMELINE ON THE TWO IF WE WERE TO GO WITH A NEW VERSUS, I MEAN, I SUSPECT WE CAN START SUBSTANTIAL DIFFERENCE. 
          WE WOULD START WITH THE MEDIANS FIRST. 
          I BELIEVE THAT'S, UM, YOU KNOW, GONNA BE DONE IN-HOUSE. 
          THAT'S PROBABLY A TWO TO THREE MONTH PROCESS. 
          IS THAT OH, FOR THE THREE? YEAH. 
          FOR THE MEDIANS, WE'RE PROBABLY LOOKING AT FIVE MONTHS. 
          IT'S, UH, ALL CEMENT, CEMENT TREATED SAND AND ON TOP OF ASPHALT. 
          AND IT'S GONNA TAKE US WHILE TO DIG THOSE OUT AND PUT 'EM BACK. 
          OKAY. 
          AND WE WILL REPAIR, WE'LL REPAIR THE CURB AROUND THE MEDIAN WHILE WE'RE THERE. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, WE ALSO HAVE TO RUN IRRIGATION TO THE CENTER. 
          UH, SO THERE'S NO IRRIGATION THERE. 
          NOW IF WE'RE GONNA PUT SOME, UH, TREES THERE, IT'S GONNA NEED IRRIGATION. 
          SO THAT'S ANOTHER ITEM THAT TAKES A LITTLE LONGER. 
          SO YEAH, IT, THE, THE MEDIANS WILL PROBABLY TAKE THE LONGEST. 
          UM, AND THAT'S JUST 'CAUSE WE'RE HAVING TO, YOU KNOW, WORK WITH THE CREWS. 
          WE HAVE, UH, ONCE WE GET TO THE, TO THE PAVEMENT SECTION, THAT PROBABLY WON'T TAKE AS LONG, YOU KNOW, I WOULD SAY LESS THAN A MONTH. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, AND FOR MY COMMENTS, UM, OBVIOUSLY THE ROAD NEEDS TO BE REPAIRED, WHICH I'M GLAD TO HEAR, BUT THE MEDIANS HAVE ALWAYS BEEN PARTICULARLY UGLY TO ME ON WARD ROAD. 
          AND MAYBE IT'S BECAUSE THEY ARE SO BIG AND JUST CONCRETE. 
          UM, I LIKE THE STAMPED BRICK LOOK THAT WE DO. 
          I THINK THAT LOOKS GREAT. 
          UM, AND I DO LIKE THE TREES AND THE LANDSCAPING, BUT I KNOW THAT WE HAVE STRUGGLED WITH TRYING TO MAINTAIN THEM. 
          YES. 
          UM, IN, IN A TIME WHERE EVERYBODY'S HAPPY AND, YOU KNOW, AND THE GRASS ISN'T OVERGROWN. 
          AND SO MAYBE AN ALTERNATIVE TO THE TREES OR EVEN MAYBE A MIX WITH THE TREES. 
          THERE'S SOME PUBLIC ART OPPORTUNITIES, SO LIKE SCULPTURES LIKE WE HAVE ON, WE ABOUT THAT SAN JACINTO AND SO MAYBE NOT SO MANY TREES THAT THE PARKS DEPARTMENT HAS TO MANAGE AND, AND MAYBE SPEND SOME PUBLIC ART MONEY AS WELL. 
          THAT THAT IS AN OPTION. 
          WE, WE, WELL, YOU WOULDN'T HAVE TO DO IRRIGATION AND SO, BUT, BUT IT IS THE LANDSCAPING. 
          I'M GONNA SPEAK FOR SKY, COME AND SPEAK FOR HIMSELF, BUT IT'S MORE THE LAND. 
          THE TREES I THINK ARE LESS OF A MAINTENANCE ISSUE. 
          IT'S THE ACTUAL, THE GROUND AROUND IT. 
          THE GROUND. 
          WELL IT'S, I MEAN THE SHRUBS AND THE BUSHES AND FLOWERS AND WE DO NOT PLAN TO DO ANY OF THAT ALONG WARD IT, IT IS A HUGE MAINTENANCE RIGHT. 
          THING. 
          AND THE TREES, I THINK MAKE THE BIGGEST IMPACT. 
          YOU CAN SEE THERE ON GARTH, THAT SECTION 
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THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT RIGHT THERE DOESN'T, THERE'S NO PLANTINGS THAT WE CAN SEE. 
          AND IT, IT'S A HUGE IMPACT. 
          SO YEAH. 
          BUT THERE USED TO BE, SO WHEN, WHEN THEY FIRST DID IT, THERE WERE, THERE WAS A LOT OF GROUND COVER AND I THINK THE FREEZE KIND OF TOOK , THE FREEZE ACTUALLY DESTROYED IT ALL. 
          SO IT'S UH, RIGHT. 
          BUT, BUT I AGREE WITH THAT. 
          YOU KNOW, WHATEVER WE CAN DO TO, TO REDUCE MAINTENANCE AND, AND KIND OF INCREASE YEAH. 
          CONSISTENT APPEAL WOULD BE, WOULD BE GOOD. 
          OKAY. 
          ANYONE ELSE? ALRIGHT, THANKS FRANK. 
          OKAY. 
          AND FRANK, TO CLARIFY, JUST SO THEY ALL KNOW, WE WOULD GET STARTED ON THIS ROUGHLY, UM, WHEN, WHEN CAN YOU START KEVIN ? WE'RE, WE'RE RECONSTRUCTING LANDS IN NOW AS SOON AS I'M FREE A CREW UP TWO AND A HALF, THREE WEEKS. 
          WE'LL GET 'EM STARTED OVER THREE WEEKS. 
          YEP. 
          JUST LETTING YOU GUYS KNOW GENERALLY WHEN WE'RE, WHEN WE'LL BE STARTING. 
          ALRIGHT, WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM ONE B. 
          RECEIVE 
          [b.  Receive and discuss a presentation regarding stormwater projects and the potential to partner with Harris County for the funding and execution of projects.]
AND DISCUSS A PRESENTATION REGARDING STORMWATER PROJECTS AND THE POTENTIAL TO PARTNER WITH HARRIS COUNTY FOR THE FUNDING AND EXECUTION OF PROJECTS. 
          SO GOOD EVENING. 
          UM, JUST WANTED TO TALK TO YOU BRIEFLY ABOUT SOME, UH, DRAINAGE PROJECTS AND, UM, GOT THE AGENDA HERE. 
          WE'VE GOT SEVERAL PROJECTS THAT, UH, I'D LIKE TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT. 
          WE HAVE A COUPLE THAT, UH, YOU'RE PROBABLY AWARE WE HAVE OTHER FUNDING AND WE ARE MOVING FORWARD WITH, UH, WEST BAYTOWN AND WEST TEXAS AVENUE. 
          UH, THERE ARE SOME ADDITIONAL OPPORTUNITIES THAT WE'D LIKE TO LOOK AT. 
          AND, UM, IN FUNDING THESE PROJECTS, IT INVOLVES, YOU KNOW, AN INCREASE TO THE STORMWATER FEE. 
          AND SO WE WANT TO PRESENT THESE TO SHOW YOU, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE WOULD BE USING THOSE FUNDS FOR AND BEFORE WE PUT THAT INTO THE BUDGET AND PROPOSE THAT PART OF OUR BUDGET. 
          SO, UM, THIS, THIS IS, LIKE I SAY, WHAT WE HAD PLANNED FOR, UH, OUR PARTNERSHIP FUNDS AND HARRIS COUNTY, YOU KNOW, WE'VE BEEN, UM, IN DIALOGUE WITH THEM FOR QUITE A FEW MONTHS. 
          THEY HAVE, UM, OR GET INTO THAT THEY HAVE FUNDS THAT ARE AVAILABLE. 
          THEY'VE BEEN LOOKING FOR PARTNERS AND, UH, LOOKING FOR PROJECTS. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, WE WANT TO JUMP ON THIS WHILE THEY STILL HAVE THAT FUNDING AVAILABLE. 
          AND, AND PROBABLY ALSO HELPFUL TO KNOW ON WEST BAYTOWN AND DAN BINA, YOU KNOW, WE'VE LOOKED AT FEDERAL CDBG MONEY FOR THAT. 
          UM, THOSE HAVE NOT BEEN SUCCESSFUL SO FAR. 
          UM, AND I THINK THEY WILL PROBABLY, WE'RE GONNA KEEP WORKING IT, BUT I THINK THEY'LL CONTINUE TO BE A CHALLENGE. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT WHAT OTHER PARTNERSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ARE OUT THERE IS KIND OF WHAT, WHAT FRANK AND AND HIS TEAM HAVE BEEN LOOKING AT. 
          SO THAT'S WHAT HAS KIND OF LED INTO A LOT OF, OF WHAT YOU'RE GONNA SEE TONIGHT. 
          OKAY. 
          SO, UH, AS I SAID, UH, WE'VE ALREADY BEEN IN DISCUSSION WITH HARRIS COUNTY ON WEST BAYTOWN DRAINAGE ON THIS PROJECT IN PARTICULAR. 
          UH, WE CURRENTLY ARE NEGOTIATING AN AGREEMENT, SO YOU SHOULD SEE THAT'S ALREADY BEEN TO HARRIS COUNTY COMMISSIONER'S COURT. 
          THEY PASSED WHAT THEY CALL AUTHORIZATION TO, TO NEGOTIATE. 
          AND SO WE'RE IN NEGOTIATION NOW WITH HARRIS COUNTY ON THESE PROJECTS. 
          AND THEY MADE THAT AUTHORIZATION VERY GENERAL. 
          SO IT COULD INCLUDE ANY OF THESE PROJECTS THAT I'M PRESENTING. 
          UH, THE FIRST ONE IS, UH, WEST BAYTOWN DRAINAGE. 
          AND THIS IS PART OF OUR DRAINAGE MASTER PLAN. 
          IT, UM, WHAT I'M SHOWING HERE IS JUST PHASE ONE. 
          IT'S BASICALLY THE TRUNK LINE, UH, IN OKLAHOMA STREET. 
          UH, THERE ARE ADDITIONAL PHASES THAT WOULD CAPTURE, YOU KNOW, THE, THE LINES THAT FEED INTO THAT TRUNK LINE AS WELL AS THE INLETS. 
          UM, BUT JUST LOOKING AT THE COST AND, YOU KNOW, PROVIDING AN IMMEDIATE IMPACT, WE FEEL LIKE, YOU KNOW, THIS IS THE BEST ROUTE TO GO TO GET, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING DONE THERE. 
          AND, YOU KNOW, THAT'LL SET US UP FOR FUTURE PHASES. 
          UH, THE WAY HARRIS COUNTY WORKS, THEIR PARTNERSHIP PROJECTS, THEY DO A 50 50 SPLIT ON THE DRAINAGE COMPONENTS ONLY. 
          SO THEY WILL NOT PARTICIPATE, UH, WITH THE CITY IN COSTS THAT ARE NOT RELATED TO DRAINAGE. 
          SO IF WE'RE GONNA REPLACE SIDEWALKS WHILE WE DO THE PROJECT, THEY WON'T PARTICIPATE IN THAT. 
          THAT'S ALL ON THE CITY. 
          UH, SO THINGS LIKE SIDEWALKS, THE CURBS, UH, WATER LINES, SEWER LINES, UM, ANY LIGHTING, UH, ANYTHING THAT IS NOT DIRECTLY DRAINAGE RELATED. 
          UH, THAT'S WHY EVEN THOUGH IT'S A 50 50 SPLIT, UH, YOU'LL SEE THAT THERE'S MORE ON THE CITY SIDE THERE. 
          UH, JUST BECAUSE WE'RE GONNA DO OTHER THINGS WITH THE PROJECT THAT JUST MAKES SENSE, YOU KNOW, MAKES SENSE TO HAVE THE SIDEWALKS REPLACED, UH, THE WATER LINES, THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          UH, SO AS, AS 
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I SAID, THIS IS, UH, THE TRUNK LINE THAT EXTENDS THE LENGTH OF OKLAHOMA AND EMPTIES INTO THE, TO THE BAY THERE. 
          UH, THE NEXT PROJECT IS WEST TEXAS AVENUE DRAINAGE. 
          THIS ONE HAS BEEN APPROVED FOR CDBG FUNDING. 
          IT WAS PART OF OUR APPLICATION, UH, FROM THE 2016 FLOODS. 
          AND THIS IS GOING TO BE A VERY COMPLICATED PROJECT. 
          SO WE'VE GOT THREE PARTIES INVOLVED HERE, UH, WITH, YOU KNOW, THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, THE STATE, UH, IMPLEMENTING THAT FUNDING. 
          AND WE'VE GOT HARRIS COUNTY WITH THEIR FUNDING AND THE CITY, SO TELL YOU, DON'T GET TOO HUNG UP ON THE EXACT, UH, SCOPE THERE. 
          UH, WE ARE, ARE THE NUMBERS. 
          THOSE HAVE BEEN KIND OF IN FLUX AS WE TRY TO BRING ALL THE PARTIES TOGETHER AND AGREE ON, UH, WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO AND HOW MUCH IT'S GONNA COST. 
          BUT WE JUST, UH, BE ASSURED THAT WE WILL, WE WILL, UH, ADDRESS THE PROJECT OBJECTIVES, WHICH ARE TO REDUCE, REDUCE THE FLOODING AND TO PROVIDE AESTHETIC IMPROVEMENTS TO TEXAS AVENUE. 
          AND SO THAT'S THE OBJECTIVES WE'RE MARCHING FORWARD WITH. 
          AND WE ARE HOLDING FAST ON, UM, NOW EXACTLY WHERE THE LINES ARE GONNA GO, WHICH LINES ARE GONNA BE REPLACED. 
          DON'T GET HUNG UP ON THAT. 
          OKAY. 
          AND, AND I, AS I SAID, THE, THE CDBG UM, FUNDING IS PRETTY WELL SET AS TO THE AMOUNT THAT THEY WILL, UH, PARTICIPATE. 
          NOW WE'RE TRYING TO WORK WITH THEM ON, YOU KNOW, WHAT COMPONENTS THEY WILL FUND. 
          SO I THINK THEY WILL FUND THINGS LIKE SIDEWALKS, UH, WHEREAS, YOU KNOW, THE COUNTY WILL NOT. 
          SO WE'RE TRYING TO GO THROUGH A VERY DETAILED ESTIMATE AND PUT, UH, YOU KNOW, THE, THE, THE COST IN THE RIGHT BUCKET. 
          AND SO THAT'S NOT AN EASY PROCESS, BUT JUST REST ASSURED THAT THIS PROJECT IS MOVING FORWARD. 
          IT'S BEEN APPROVED BY HARRIS COUNTY. 
          WE'RE IN NEGOTIATION ON THAT AGREEMENT. 
          IT'S BEEN APPROVED BY, UM, THE GENERAL LAND OFFICE. 
          WE DON'T HAVE OUR CONTRACT YET, BUT WE'RE IN NEGOTIATION WITH THEM ABOUT THE SCOPE. 
          SO THIS PROJECT IS MOVING FORWARD. 
          I EXPECT THAT THE, THE CITY WILL HAVE TO CONTRIBUTE A HUNDRED PERCENT OF THE AESTHETIC IMPROVEMENTS. 
          SO THE STREET SCAPING, LIKE PAVERS, YOU KNOW, UM, UH, UPGRADED SIDEWALKS, BENCHES, TRASH CANS, UH, LIGHTING BENCHES, ALL THAT IS NOT COVERED BY CDBG OR HARRIS COUNTY. 
          SO THAT'S WHY YOU SEE THE CITY CONTRIBUTION, UH, YOU KNOW, UP THERE. 
          UM, BUT IT IS IMPORTANT, WE WANT TO HAVE THE TEXAS AVENUE, UH, CORRIDOR BE CONSISTENT. 
          AND SO WE'RE GONNA PUT THOSE THINGS INTO THE PROJECT. 
          WE, SO ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT ONE? NO, JUST A COMMENT. 
          I THINK THAT'S A HOME RUN. 
          THE CITY'S TOTAL IS LESS THAN 20%. 
          YES. 
          AND WE CONTINUE TO LOWER CITY DOLLARS AND, AND WE'RE GONNA TRY TO GET THAT DOWN. 
          AND THAT'S A GREAT THING. 
          AND, AND IT'S GONNA BE COMPLICATED, BUT EVERYTHING ON TEXAS AVENUE IS COMPLICATED , SO THAT'S OKAY. 
          RIGHT, RIGHT. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, THE OTHER ONES, WE'RE LOOKING TO PARTNER WITH HARRIS COUNTY. 
          WE HAVEN'T, UM, INITIATED THIS NEGOTIATION YET. 
          WE'RE FINALIZING THE, UM, THE ESTIMATES. 
          BUT, UM, THESE ARE PROJECTS THAT ARE IN OUR MASTER DRAINAGE PLAN AND WE FEEL WILL MAKE THE BIGGEST IMPACT TO, UH, FLOODING RISK WITHIN THE CITY. 
          UH, SO THE FIRST ONE IS, IS DANINA. 
          UH, EVERYBODY KNOWS THIS IS A AREA THAT HAS HISTORICALLY FLOODED. 
          UH, THE PROJECT WE HAVE IDENTIFIED IS A VERY LARGE PROJECT. 
          I THINK YOU'LL PROBABLY REMEMBER THIS FROM WHEN I PRESENTED THE, UH, MASTER DRAINAGE PLAN. 
          AND SO WE HAVE, AGAIN, JUST LIKE WEST WEST BAYTOWN, WE BROKE THIS INTO PHASES. 
          AND THIS IS PHASE ONE. 
          UM, SO YOU'LL SEE THAT THE HARRIS COUNTY COMPONENT IS A LITTLE BIT HIGHER IN THIS PROJECT. 
          THAT IS BECAUSE, UH, THIS ORANGE LINE, I DON'T, I, I GUESS WE CAN'T DRAW ON THE SCREEN ANYMORE, BUT, UM, THE ORANGE LINE THERE IS THE HARRIS COUNTY CHANNEL THAT NEEDS TO BE IMPROVED. 
          AND SO, UM, WE'VE, I THINK COME TO AN AGREEMENT WITH HARRIS COUNTY IN, IN THEORY THAT THIS IS THEIR CHANNEL. 
          UH, AND SO THEY NEED TO TAKE THAT ON A HUNDRED PERCENT. 
          YOU KNOW, UH, AS FAR AS THE COST OF IMPROVING THAT CHANNEL, UH, IT DOES HAVE A BIG IMPACT ON FLOODING IN THIS, THIS AREA BECAUSE IT IS NOT MAINTAINED AND, UH, IT BACKS UP WATER. 
          WATER DOES NOT FLOW AS FREELY AS IT SHOULD IN THIS AREA BECAUSE OF THAT CHANNEL. 
          SO A BIG PART OF THIS PROJECT IS TO IMPROVE THAT CHANNEL. 
          UH, THE REMAINDER OF THE PROJECT IS TO BUILD A TRUNK LINE, UH, ON HUNTING CUT THERE. 
          AND LIKE I SAY, THAT WOULD BE THE FIRST PHASE OF THE 
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PROJECT. 
          UH, IT'S VERY SIMILAR CONCEPT TO WHAT WE HAVE IN WEST BAYTOWN. 
          TRY TO, YOU KNOW, GET SOMETHING DONE THAT WILL HAVE AN IMPACT AND SET US UP FOR FUTURE PHASES. 
          UM, AND AGAIN, YOU SEE THE COST SHARE THERE, WE'RE GONNA SHARE 50 50 ON DRAINAGE, UH, COMPONENTS. 
          UH, THE CITY WILL TAKE ON A HUNDRED PERCENT OF, YOU KNOW, THE SIDEWALKS AND, UH, OTHER UTILITIES AND HARRIS COUNTY WILL IMPROVE THEIR CHANNEL. 
          MAYOR , UM, DO YOU WANNA CONTINUE THE PRESENTATION BEFORE YOU TAKE QUESTIONS? OKAY. 
          ASK QUESTIONS. 
          JUST, JUST A COMMENT. 
          AS FAR AS HARRIS COUNTY AND, AND THEIR FLOOD CONTROL DITCH. 
          RIGHT. 
          HOPEFULLY WE'LL HAVE SOME INPUT. 
          WHAT I WOULD NOT LIKE TO SEE IS CONCRETE LINE DITCH PUT IN THAT PLACE. 
          UH, WE, WE HAVEN'T PROPOSED THAT. 
          I, I WAS JUST PROPOSING THAT THEY, UH, CLEAR THE TREES AND REGRADE IT. 
          YEAH. 
          'CAUSE 'CAUSE IT IS REMOVE THE SILT, REMOVE THE VEGETATION. 
          YEAH. 
          IT'S, IT IS SILTED IN OVER THE YEARS AND IT IS A JUNGLE UP THAT CREEK. 
          RIGHT. 
          BUT IT IS, WHAT I WOULD DESPERATELY NOT WANT TO HAVE HAPPEN IS THEM JUST COME IN AND GRADE THAT THING AND PUT A CONCRETE LINE DOWN THROUGH. 
          WE DIDN'T, WE DIDN'T TALK TO THEM ABOUT THAT AND WE WERE NOT PROPOSING CONCRETE LINE CHANNEL. 
          OKAY. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, IS THIS THE SAME CHANNEL, MIKE, THAT YOU AND I JUST RECENTLY TALKED ABOUT, UM, WITH MS. DE LA ROSA? NO, THAT'S OKAY. 
          SO THAT'S A SEPARATE OF OKAY. 
          I WAS HOPING THIS WOULD ADDRESS HER ISSUES, BUT NO. 
          OKAY. 
          NO, THAT, THAT'S A, A DIFFERENT CHANNEL. 
          AND THAT'S, THAT FEEDS ALL THE WAY THROUGH THE RETENTION DETENTION POND THERE AT, AT THE LOWER END. 
          RIGHT. 
          AT THE, THE, UM, JAMES AND KGO CONNECTION. 
          THERE'S A DETENTION POND THERE, FLOOD AREA AND, AND, BUT YEAH, IT'S SILTED IN REALLY BAD, BUT IT, YOU GO UP THROUGH THE, BETWEEN THE RESIDENCES THERE AND IT'S A JUNGLE. 
          YEAH. 
          AND THAT'S, OH, I KNOW THAT IMPEDES THE FLOW. 
          WE'VE, UH, BEEN IN DISCUSSION WITH HARRIS COUNTY, UH, THE MAINTENANCE DIVISION AND TRYING TO CLEAN THAT OUT. 
          AND UH, I THINK WE'LL BE MORE SUCCESSFUL IF WE PUT IT INTO A PROJECT MM-HMM . 
          AND GET A CONTRACTOR TO DO IT. 
          AND, UH, BUT HARRIS COUNTY HAS AGREED THAT THEY WOULD, YOU KNOW, FUND THAT YEAH. 
          PORTION OF IT. 
          HOPEFULLY THIS WILL BE A SUCCESSFUL PITCH IN A PROPOSAL PROJECT. 
          WHEN THEY GET TO THE POINT THEY START DEALING WITH THOSE INDIVIDUAL HOMEOWNERS, I'LL BE HAPPY TO GO WITH 'EM. 
          OKAY. 
          'CAUSE I HEARD LOUD AND CLEAR FROM THOSE HOMEOWNERS THEY WANTED SOMETHING DONE. 
          RIGHT. 
          SO, OKAY. 
          YOU GET WHAT YOU ASKED FOR. 
          DON'T COMPLAIN. 
          YEP. 
          THANKS. 
          THANKS FRANK. 
          SURE. 
          OKAY. 
          THE NEXT PROJECT IS, UH, EAST JAMES. 
          IT'S, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, KIND OF ADJACENT TO THE DANINO AREA. 
          UH, AND THE CHANNEL SHOWN THERE IS THE ONE ON DANINO. 
          SO IT'S, IT'S NOT A DIFFERENT CHANNEL. 
          UM, SO I'M JUST SHOWING THAT FOR CLARITY. 
          UM, THE PROJECT WOULD BE THE STORM DRAINAGE SYSTEM ON, UH, JAMES AND WRIGHT. 
          AND, UH, YOU SEE THE COST SPLIT THERE. 
          UH, AGAIN, IT'S NOT EXACTLY 50 50 BECAUSE OF THE OTHER, OTHER ITEMS THAT WE WOULD DO. 
          UH, THEN I HAD, YOU KNOW, SENT OUT THIS PRESENTATION A FEW DAYS AGO. 
          UH, AND THEN WE WERE PROPOSING SOME, UH, DETENTION AREAS TO BE, UH, ACQUIRED FOR THE RIGHT OF WAY. 
          UH, JUST YESTERDAY I FOUND OUT THAT, UH, HARRIS COUNTY HAS ALREADY ACQUIRED THIS, UH, PARTIAL ON ROLLING BROOK. 
          SO, UH, THIS IS SOMETHING I TOOK THE COST OUT 'CAUSE THEY, HARRIS COUNTY'S ALREADY DONE IT. 
          SO, UM, YOU KNOW, THIS IS A WIN IN THE FUTURE. 
          THEY HAVEN'T FUNDED THE FULL PROJECT OF BUILDING THE DETENTION, SO WE MIGHT PARTICIPATE WITH THEM IN SOME FUTURE PHASES ON ACTUALLY, UH, CONSTRUCTING THE DETENTION POND. 
          BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S A BIG WIN TO GET THE PROPERTY ACQUIRED FIRST BECAUSE THEN THAT, YOU KNOW, UH, ESTABLISHES THAT THAT WILL BE THE AREA AND, YOU KNOW, NOTHING WILL DEVELOP THERE IN THE MEANTIME. 
          SO THAT, THAT'S REALLY GOOD NEWS FOR US. 
          UH, WE HAVE ADDITIONAL DETENTION ON CEDAR BAY LYNCHBURG, UH, WHICH WE WOULD LIKE TO, YOU KNOW, PARTICIPATE WITH HARRIS COUNTY. 
          UH, THEY'VE IDENTIFIED SOME TRACKS AND WE'RE, WE'RE EVALUATING THOSE. 
          UH, THIS IS NEAR, UM, THE, THE BAYTOWN POLICE DEPARTMENT GUN RANGE. 
          AND SO, UH, WE CAN'T PICK THAT SITE EXACTLY, BUT WE LIKE TO GET ONE IN THAT AREA. 
          SO WE CAN'T HAVE THAT SITE BECAUSE IT, I'VE BEEN TOLD IT'S, IT WAS USED AS A LANDFILL PREVIOUSLY. 
          AND SO WE CAN'T, UH, EXCAVATE THERE, DON'T. 
          UH, BUT WE DO THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO SELECT A TRACT AND ACQUIRE THE RIGHT OF WAY. 
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SO IN SUMMARY, JUST ADDED UP ALL THE COSTS THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, YOU SAW ON THE PREVIOUS SLIDES. 
          UH, YOU SEE IT ENDS UP BEING A PRETTY EVEN SPLIT BETWEEN HARRIS COUNTY AND THE CITY. 
          UH, WE DO HAVE THE ONE, UH, PROJECT WITH CDBG AND IT ENDS UP BEING OVER 50, $56 MILLION IN IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE CAN GET, UH, IN THE CITY HERE BY LEVERAGING SOME, UH, GRANTS AND ISSUING SOME DEBT. 
          SO, UH, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE RECOMMENDING AND BE HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS, ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FOR FRANK? UM, JUST ANOTHER COMMENT. 
          YES, MA'AM. 
          UM, SO I'M REALLY EXCITED ABOUT WEST BAYTOWN. 
          UM, I KNOW THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS FOR A LONG TIME AND, UM, NICK, I'VE SEEN THE, THE PEOPLE AROUND THE NEIGHBORHOOD, UM, DOING THE QUESTIONNAIRES AND SO I'M HOPING THAT WE GET ENOUGH FEEDBACK TO PERHAPS BE ABLE TO DO THE, THE FEDERAL, UH, FUNDING FOR THE REST OF THAT. 
          SO, UM, I APPRECIATE THE LEGWORK ON THAT AND, UM, JUST LOOKING FORWARD TO HAVING SOME SORT OF RESOLUTION AND THEN MOVING ON TO THE SUBSEQUENT PHASES. 
          SO THANK YOU. 
          COUNCILMAN PRESTON? YEAH, I JUST KINDA WANNA ECHO THAT. 
          SO IT'S JUST, IN MY OPINION, IT'S AWESOME TO SEE WE HAVE A PLAN. 
          I KNOW MY FIRST COUPLE OF YEARS ON COUNCIL AND EVEN LONGER THAN THAT MAY, MAYBE EVEN THE FIRST FOUR OR FIVE YEARS THAT I WAS ON COUNCIL, YOU KNOW, IT JUST SEEMS LIKE DRAINAGE, THE COST ALWAYS CAME UP AND THAT WAS ALWAYS PROHIBITIVE. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND IT JUST NEVER SEEMED TO, TO GO ANYWHERE. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, IT'S SO NICE TO SEE THAT WE'RE ACTUALLY ATTACKING AND ADDRESSING DRAINAGE IN A BIG WAY. 
          IT'S JUST, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S VERY EXCITING FOR, FOR ALL OF THE DISTRICTS AND, AND, AND THE WHOLE, THE WHOLE CITY ACTUALLY. 
          THANK YOU COUNCIL AND, AND I'LL PARROT MY TWO COLLEAGUES UP HERE. 
          THIS IS, THIS IS GREAT. 
          MY QUESTION IS, WE TALKED ABOUT POTENTIALLY INCREASING STORMWATER FEE. 
          YES. 
          CAN YOU KIND OF GIVE US AN IDEA OF WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT FROM, YOU KNOW, WHAT IS IT NOW AND WHAT ARE YOU PROPOSING? I'LL LET NICK SPEAK TO THAT. 
          YEAH, I THINK SO. 
          AND RAISING THE STORMWATER FEE WOULD NOT GET US 26 MILLION. 
          I UNDERSTAND. 
          THAT'S, THAT'S THE FIRST THING I UNDERSTAND. 
          UM, , SO IF, IF WE, CURRENTLY, THE STORMWATER FEE FOR A SINGLE FAMILY HOME IS $3 PER MONTH. 
          UM, IF YOU RAISE IT A DOLLAR PER MONTH, YOU'RE, YOU'RE GOING UP TO FOUR OBVIOUSLY. 
          AND COUNCIL MEMBER KNOWS BETTER THAN PROBABLY ANYBODY IN THIS ROOM HOW THE STRUCTURE WORKS. 
          UM, IT'S BASED ON THE AMOUNT OF IMPERVIOUS SURFACE THAT YOU HAVE. 
          SO, UM, A WALMART IS PAYING WAY MORE THAN $4 A MONTH, LET'S PUT IT THAT WAY. 
          UM, BUT THEIRS WOULD GO UP THAT INCREMENTAL AMOUNT THE SAME THAT THE, THAT A SINGLE FAMILY WOULD. 
          SO BASED ON THAT, WE'VE RUN SOME, SOME ESTIMATES THAT WOULD BRING IN ROUGHLY $900,000, WHICH, WHICH GETS US, UM, ROUGHLY $14 MILLION IN DEBT THAT WE COULD ISSUE FOR THAT. 
          SO THAT GETS US OVER HALF THE WAY THERE. 
          UM, WE HAVE SOME OTHER OPTIONS THAT WE WILL PROBABLY BE BRINGING FORWARD TO YOU ALL THAT WHERE WE THINK WE COULD GET THE REST OF THE WAY. 
          UM, BUT THAT WOULD GET US A BIG CHUNK OF THE WAY FOR SURE. 
          I GOT A QUESTION AND THE MAIN TARGET FOR THAT INCREASE WOULD BE THESE PROJECTS? YES. 
          CORRECT. 
          SO WE HAVE, YOU'LL SEE IN THE BUDGET WE ARE PROPOSING AN ADDITIONAL STORMWATER CREW. 
          UM, WE ARE ABLE TO DO THAT WITHIN THE EXISTING FEE, BUT TO DO ANY OF THESE PROJECTS WE WOULD NEED TO, TO RAISE THE FEE. 
          AND THAT'S WHY LAST TIME WE RAISED IT, IT WAS TO BRING ON SOME ADDITIONAL CREWS AND WE'VE SEEN THE BENEFIT OF THAT. 
          YES. 
          SO IF WE CAN ADD EVEN ANOTHER CREW THAT'S GONNA BE AN ADDITIONAL BENEFIT. 
          YES. 
          AND THEN AGAIN, 'CAUSE THESE ARE THE QUESTIONS WE'RE GONNA FEEL FROM OUR CONSTITUENTS. 
          THIS ADDITIONAL FEE, IF YOU LOOK AT THIS POTENTIAL OF, OF DOING $56 MILLION WORTH OF DRAINAGE WORK, WHICH EVERYBODY IN TOWN WILL AGREE NEEDS TO BE DONE, THAT THAT'S A SIGNIFICANT STEP FORWARD. 
          AND I APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT Y'ALL ARE CONTINUING TO PEEL THAT ONION BACK EVERY DAY TO TRY TO FIND A WAY TO GET MORE FOR OUR BUCKS. 
          MM-HMM . 
          SO THAT, THAT'S A GREAT MOVE. 
          APPRECIATE IT. 
          IT'S A HUGE DEAL. 
          AND YEAH, AND FRANK AND HIS TEAM HAVE, HAVE PUT A LOT OF WORK, BRIAN AND HIS TEAM HAVE PUT A LOT OF WORK INTO IT TO COUNCIL MEMBER ALVARADO'S POINT. 
          WE'RE GONNA STILL HIT THE GROUND IN TRYING TO GET MORE FEDERAL MONEY, WHETHER IT'S FOR THESE ONES OR PROBABLY THE NEXT PHASES. 
          I MEAN, WE KNOW WE HAVE OTHER PHASES OF THESE, THESE BIGGER PROJECTS. 
          SO THIS WOULD BE A GREAT FIRST STEP THOUGH FOR SURE. 
          COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, WHY COULDN'T WE OFFSET THAT? AND INSTEAD OF DOING A DOLLAR IN THE EQUAL AMOUNT PERCENTAGE FOR BUSINESS, WHY COULDN'T WE MAYBE DO 75 CENTS, 50 CENTS FOR RESIDENTS AND PUT MORE OF THE BURDEN ON, UM, WE COULDN'T DO THAT. 
          THERE'S A, THERE IS A FORMULA THAT GOES INTO IT AND IT IS BASED ON THE AMOUNT OF IMPERVIOUS SURFACE. 
          SO YOU CAN'T, IT, 
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IT CAN'T BE A RANDOM, IT CAN'T BE CALCULATED IN, IN A RANDOM WAY. 
          THERE'S A VERY, UH, OBJECTIVE CALCULATED WAY THAT THAT, THAT IT'S DONE. 
          SO FOR LIKE A, A WALMART, YOU KNOW, THEY'VE GOT HOWEVER MUCH IMPERVIOUS SURFACE, SO YOU BASE THAT ON WHATEVER THAT IS TIMES A SINGLE FAMILY AND THAT'S HOW MUCH HIGHER THEIR, THEIR FEE IS. 
          SO WE WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO REALLY LEGALLY JUSTIFY KIND OF DOING SOMETHING LIKE THAT WHERE, WHERE YOU WOULD INCREASE A COMMERCIAL PROPERTY MORE THAN A A SINGLE FAMILY PROPERTY. 
          OKAY. 
          IT'S A GOOD QUESTION. 
          WE'VE, YEAH, WE'VE LOOKED INTO IT AND THERE'S THERE'S NOT A WAY, NOT A WAY TO DO IT. 
          AND FOR THE BIGGER COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES, UM, THEY'RE GONNA BE THE ONES PAYING FOR A LOT OF THESE PROJECTS. 
          I, I CAN TELL YOU THAT THE, UM, THE PERCENTAGE INCREASE FOR LIKE A, I I USE A WALMART JUST 'CAUSE EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT. 
          BUT ANY PROPERTY THAT HAS A LOT OF, UH, PARKING LOT FOR INSTANCE, UM, IS PAYING A LOT OF THIS, THE STORMWATER FEE, UM, COSTS. 
          SO, UM, I'M JUST A LITTLE CONFUSED SINCE WE STARTED TALKING ABOUT FEES. 
          UM, ARE THESE PROJECTS THE CITY PORTION HINGING ON A FEE INCREASE? YES, THEY ARE. 
          OKAY. 
          YES. 
          WHICH IS NOTHING WE'VE DECIDED. 
          IT'S JUST WE HAVE NOT. 
          RIGHT. 
          THAT'S WHY I, WE JUST FLOATED THE CONCEPT. 
          YES. 
          OKAY. 
          BUT THE CITY LINE ITEM ON EACH OF THESE PROJECTS, IT WOULD HINGE ON US APPROVING. 
          IT'S CURRENTLY UNFUNDED A FEE. 
          UM, THE, THE TEXAS AVENUE PROJECT, OBVIOUSLY IT'S ABOUT A MILLION DOLLARS. 
          UM, AND WHEN YOU'VE GOT MULTIPLE OUTSIDE FUNDING SOURCES AND IT'S A MILLION, YOU KNOW, WE CAN COME UP WITH THAT JUST IN, IN CASH. 
          THAT'S NOT AS BIG OF A DEAL. 
          IT'S THE DANINA AND THE JAMES PROJECTS. 
          UM, AND THEN THE, THE WEST BAYTOWN PROJECT, THOSE ARE OBVIOUSLY ADD UP QUITE A BIT. 
          SO WE WOULD, THE TIMING IS, IS DIFFICULT BECAUSE IF WE WANT TO GET THIS HARRIS COUNTY MONEY, WE REALLY NEED TO START GOING AFTER IT OR SOMEBODY ELSE IS GONNA GET IT. 
          SO IT, THE TIMING IS, IS A LITTLE BIT INTERESTING 'CAUSE WE HAVEN'T COMMITTED THE FUNDING AND THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO HAVE THIS DISCUSSION WITH YOU ALL. 
          UM, 'CAUSE IF WE WANT TO GO GET THAT MONEY, WE, WE NEED TO APPLY FOR IT AND GO TRY AND GET IT SOON. 
          NOW WHAT HAPPENS IS WE COME BACK TO YOU AT A LATER DATE WITH ACTUAL INTERLOCAL AGREEMENTS WHERE THE CITY DOES AGREE FIRMLY TO THE DOLLAR AMOUNT. 
          AND AT THAT TIME, BY THE TIME WE COME TO YOU WITH THAT, WE WILL BE INTO THE BUDGET PROCESS AND THE, THE TIMING WILL BE A LITTLE BETTER ON SYNCING UP REAL DOLLARS WITH ACTUAL CONTRACTS WITH THE COUNTY. 
          AND WHEN DO Y'ALL EXPECT TO BRING TO US THE DECISION ON THE FEE? IS IT DURING THE BUDGET OR IS IT GONNA BE A SEPARATE MEETING IN A MONTH OR? WE, WE, WE'LL PROPOSE IT WITHIN THE BUDGET. 
          WITHIN THE BUDGET. 
          OKAY. 
          AND YOU FEEL THAT THE HARRIS COUNTY FUNDING WOULD DEPEND ON OUR MATCH, OUR CONTRIBUTION AS WELL? ABSOLUTELY. 
          THAT THEY WILL ONLY DO 50 50 OF, OF THE DRAINAGE. 
          OKAY. 
          PORTION. 
          THANKS FOR THAT CLARIFICATION. 
          YEAH. 
          YES SIR. 
          AND THEY HAVE A CERTAIN, DO WE HAVE ANY IDEA HOW LONG THEY'VE HAD THIS MONEY AVAILABLE AND IS THERE A TIMELINE ON WHEN IT MAY NOT BE AVAILABLE OUTSIDE OF SOMEONE ELSE COMING IN TO GET IT? IT, IT'S A FIRST COME FIRST SERVE. 
          SO, UM, THEY HAVE HAD IT FOR A LITTLE WHILE. 
          UH, I, I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY HOW LONG, BUT IT IS, IT'S SOMETHING WE'VE LOOKED AT THROUGHOUT THIS FISCAL YEAR. 
          UM, BUT IN, IN TALKING TO THEM, THERE ARE OTHER ENTITIES APPLYING AS WELL. 
          THEY'RE, THEY'RE NOT GONNA LOSE IT. 
          THEY'RE GONNA SPEND IT. 
          IT'S JUST A MATTER OF WHO, IF IT'S SPENT IN BAY TIME OR NOT. 
          YEAH. 
          SO IT WAS JUST FOUND OUT MIRACULOUSLY BY THEM THAT, HEY, WE HAVE $150 MILLION WE NEED TO GET RID OF. 
          NO, THEY, I MEAN, IF YOU RECALL HARRIS COUNTY HAD A, A LOT OF DRAINAGE MM-HMM . 
          MONEY THROUGH, THROUGH A BOND ELECTION. 
          YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          AND THEY GOT FEDERAL MONEY TOO. 
          SO, UM, YOU KNOW, FIGURING OUT A WAY TO SPEND THAT MUCH AND WHAT THE RIGHT PROJECTS ARE TAKES A LITTLE BIT OF TIME AND THEY HAVE SOME FUNDS LEFT AND THEY'RE WILLING TO PARTNER WITH CITIES TO, TO SPEND THAT MONEY ON THE AREAS THAT MAKE SENSE FOR US. 
          THEY LIKE OUR PROJECTS BECAUSE WE'VE DONE A STORMWATER MASTER PLAN. 
          WE KNOW THERE'S A NEED. 
          WE'VE DONE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, WE'VE SEEN IT THROUGH FLOOD EVENTS. 
          SO OUR PROJECTS KIND OF MAKE A LOT OF SENSE FOR THEM. 
          BUT IF WE WAIT TOO LONG, SOMEBODY WILL WE'LL GRAB THAT MONEY. 
          UM, AND I JUST HAD ONE MORE QUESTION ABOUT THE HARRIS COUNTY CHANNEL AND THE DANINA PROJECT. 
          I UNDERSTAND OVER TIME, YOU KNOW, THINGS NEED TO BE DREDGED OR REPAIRED, BUT WHAT IT'S SOUNDING LIKE TO ME IS IT'S NOT EVEN BEING LIKE MAINTAINED. 
          LIKE NOT EVEN MOWED. 
          NO MA'AM. 
          HOW, HOW IS THAT, UM, ALLOWED THERE? THERE'S NO VEHICLE FOR ENFORCEMENT BECAUSE WE, WE ENFORCE THAT WITH OUR OWN CITIZENS TO MOW THEIR LAWNS. 
          I JUST, HOW IT'S, HOW IS THERE NO, UM, VEHICLE 
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FOR US TO, IT'S PART OF HARRIS COUNTY'S, UH, CHANNEL SYSTEM AND THEY, THEY ONLY HAVE SO MANY RESOURCES AND SO THEY ALLOCATE THOSE TO THE ONES THEY SEE, YOU KNOW, AS MOST CRITICAL. 
          AND ALTHOUGH WE HAVE, I'LL HAVE TO, TO MOW THAT NEXT TIME. 
          I CONSTITUENT CAN'T AFFORD TO MOW A LAWN. 
          WE, WE HAVE IT. 
          IT'S NOT JUST A MATTER OF MOWING. 
          THEY HAVE TO DREDGE, YOU KNOW, AS, AS WE GO THROUGH THE CITY AND, YOU KNOW, CLEAN OUT THE DITCHES OF SILT THAT DEPOSITS, THEY NEED TO DO THE SAME THING WITH THEIR CHANNELS. 
          YEAH. 
          UH, THEY JUST HAVEN'T DONE THAT. 
          OKAY. 
          YEAH. 
          THE DING THE LONG TERM STUFF I GET RIGHT. 
          I JUST WAS GETTING THE SENSE LIKE IT'S NOT EVEN BEING, IT'S NOT KIND OF ANNUALLY MAINTAINED. 
          NO, IT'S NOT. 
          AND WE'VE, WE HAVE TALKED TO THEM FOR A LONG TIME ABOUT THIS. 
          OKAY. 
          CONSTITUENTS CAN ALWAYS CONTACT THEIR COUNTY COMMISSIONER. 
          IT'S NOT EVEN ISSUES LIKE THAT. 
          NOT THINK THIS WOULD BE DANINA. 
          IT'S ALL OVER BECAUSE I, IN MY DISTRICT THERE, THERE ARE A NUMBER OF HARRIS COUNTY FLOOD CONTROL CHANNELS THROUGHOUT THE CITY THAT ARE IN DIRE NEED OF MAINTENANCE. 
          MM-HMM . 
          UM, BEEN HERE 22 YEARS AND THAT SPECIFIC CHANNEL HAS NOT BEEN TOUCHED IN THE 22 YEARS I'VE BEEN HERE. 
          AND PROBABLY NOT FOR MUCH LONGER BEFORE THAT. 
          SO THAT'S WHY IT HAS TREES IN, THAT'S WHY IT HAS TREES THIS BIG AROUND IN IT. 
          YOU, YOU MAY HAVE SEEN THEY'RE, THEY'RE GONNA HAVE NEW LEADERSHIP AT HARRIS, UH, HARRIS COUNTY FLOOD CONTROL. 
          BUT, UM, BAYTOWN FOR SURE HAS BUILT, HAS STARTED TO BUILD A REALLY GREAT RELATIONSHIP, ESPECIALLY THE WORK THAT FRANK HAS DONE. 
          SO THAT'S GIVEN US SOME OF THESE OPPORTUNITIES. 
          WE'RE NOT TOTALLY THERE, ESPECIALLY ON THE, THE MAINTENANCE SIDE FOR SURE. 
          WE'VE GOT SOME WORK TO DO. 
          BUT ON THE, ON THE PROJECT SIDE, WE'VE HAD GREAT DISCUSSIONS WITH THEM, ESPECIALLY OVER THIS PAST YEAR. 
          ANYONE ELSE? ALRIGHT, THANKS FRANK. 
          UM, ITEM ONE C, DISCUSS ANY OR ALL THE AGENDA ITEMS ON THE CITY COUNCIL REGULAR MEETING AGENDA FOR JUNE 24TH, 2021. 
          I DON'T HAVE ANY. 
          NOBODY. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          WITH ALL ITEMS ON THE AGENDA HAVING BEEN ADDRESSED, I NOW ADJOURN THIS WORK SESSION. 
          THE TIME IS 6:12 PM THANK.
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