May 11, 2021 BAYTOWN REDEVELOPMENT & TAX INCREMENT REINVESTMENT ZONE NO 1

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AND MIKE WILSON, MYSELF.

SO WE WILL, UH,

[ CITY OF BAYTOWN NOTICE OF MEETING NOTICE OF JOINT BOARD OF DIRECTORS MEETING OF THE BAYTOWN REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY AND TAX INCREMENT REINVESTMENT ZONE NUMBER ONE, CITY OF BAYTOWN, TEXAS TUESDAY, MAY 11, 2021 4:30 P.M. COUNCIL CHAMBER, CITY HALL 2401 MARKET STREET, BAYTOWN, TEXAS 77520 Due to the COVID 19 Disaster and the CDC's recommendation regarding social distancing measures, the public may not be allowed to be physically present at this meeting, as there is a limited amount of space when maintaining the required 6-feet separation from others. For those members of the public that cannot or do not wish to be physically present at the meeting, they will be able to participate through two-way communications. For video conferencing, use the following website www.zoom.com, click on "join a meeting" on the top right-hand corner, and input the following Meeting ID: 899 9675 6100. For telephone conferencing please use the following toll-free number: 1-888-788-0099, Meeting ID: 899 9675 6100. Any person, who is participating through video/teleconferencing and is interested in speaking on any item on the agenda, must submit his/her request via email to the City Clerk at cityclerk@baytown.org. The request must include the speaker's name, address, and phone number that will be used if teleconferencing as well as the agenda item number. The request must be received prior to the posted time of the meeting. The agenda packet is accessible to the public in both HTML and PDF formats at the following link: https://www.baytown.org/city-hall/city-clerk/agendas-minutes. After the meeting, a video recording of this meeting will be made available to the public at https://www.baytown.org/city-hall/city-clerk/agendas-minutes. For more information or questions concerning the teleconference, please contact the Office of the City Clerk at 281-420-6504. AGENDA CALL TO ORDER AND ANNOUNCEMENT OF QUORUM ]

AND FIRST ORDER OF

[1. MINUTES]

AND WE HAVE MINUTES FROM THE MARCH, OR EXCUSE ME, DECEMBER 16TH, 2021, UH, 2020 MEETING, AND THE MARCH 3RD, 2021 MEETING.

AND LIKE, THERE'S NO OBJECTIONS.

WE COULD, UH, TAKE THOSE IN ONE MOTION.

I WOULD APPROVE, I WOULD MOVE THAT WE APPROVE BOTH SETS OF MINUTES.

SECOND.

ALL RIGHT.

THERE ANY CORRECTIONS OR ADDITIONS TO THESE THAT NEED TO BE MADE? ALL RIGHT.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

ALL THOSE OPPOSED, LIKE SIGNED.

ALRIGHT, WE HAVE HAVE THAT WE'LL MOVE ON DOWN

[a. Receive and discuss a presentation regarding the Master Land Plan and Drainage Plan for the San Jacinto Boulevard Corridor.]

AND MR. CARDELLA, DO YOU CARE TO ENTERTAIN US WITH THAT, UH, BIT OF INFORMATION? WELL, I WILL KICK IT OFF AND CERTAINLY INTRODUCE THE PEOPLE THAT CAN, THAT ARE MORE ENTERTAINING THAN ME REGARDING IT.

UH, MR. CHAIRMAN AND BOARD, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

IF YOU RECALL LATE LAST YEAR, WE APPROACHED YOU ABOUT, UM, LOOKING AT THE SAN JACINTO BOULEVARD DISTRICT AND, UM, TRYING TO CREATE A, A FUTURE VISIONED LAND PLAN FOR THAT AREA, AS WELL AS ADDRESS THE STORMWATER RUNOFF, UM, SITUATION THAT WE NEED TO HAVE HAPPEN UP THERE TO MAKE DEVELOPMENT PO POSSIBILITY.

YOU AGREED WITH US IN THAT PROCESS.

WE WENT OUT WITH AN RFQ AND ENDED UP SELECTING EHRA, UH, AS AN ENGINEERING FIRM WHO COULD COME ON BOARD AND WORK WITH US ON THIS FUTURE VISIONING AND THE, UH, AND THE DRAINAGE ANALYSIS.

UH, TODAY WE HAVE BRAD SCHWEITZER AND, UM, CHRIS BROWN HERE FROM EHRA TO WALK YOU THROUGH THE PRESENTATION.

AND I WILL NOT, UH, DELAY ANY MORE TIME SO THEY CAN GET INTO IT.

I THINK YOU WILL VERY MUCH APPRECIATE THIS.

THIS IS, UH, FORWARD VISIONED FOR, UM, THE CITY OF BAYTOWN.

AND IF WE ARE ABLE TO, UM, LET'S SAY EVEN COMPLETE ABOUT 70% OF WHAT WE'RE THINKING OF ON THIS PROJECT, IT'LL PUT BAYTOWN INTO A BRAND NEW MARKETPLACE FOR LIVE, WORK, PLAY, UH, DESTINATIONS.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU FOR HAVING US.

UH, AS BRETT INTRODUCED US, I AM CHRIS BROWN.

I'M, UH, VICE PRESIDENT AT EHA, UH, BEEN DOING LAND PLANNING IN THE GREATER HOUSTON AREA FOR ABOUT 30 YEARS NOW.

I HATE TO SAY THAT, BUT I'M GONNA ADMIT IT .

AND, UH, THAT JUST GIVES ME A LOT OF EXPERIENCE, WHICH, WHICH I CAN BRING TO YOUR PROJECT.

UM, THIS IS BRETT.

UH, SORRY.

THAT'S BRETT.

THIS IS BRAD.

UM, BRAD IS OUR SENIOR PLANNER AT EHRA.

AND, UH, WE'RE GONNA BE KIND OF DOUBLE TEAMING THIS PRESENTATION AND, UH, TELLING YOU WHAT THIS VISION IS ALL ABOUT AND WHAT WE CAN CREATE HERE.

SO WE'LL GET GOING.

YEAH.

ALRIGHT.

KEEP GOING.

BUT BEFORE YOU START, UM, LLOYD IS THERE, WE'RE NOT ABLE, MIKE AND I ARE.

PUSH, PUSH YOUR RED BUTTON OVER THE RED BUTTON.

YOU GOT OFF COUNSEL.

THAT LONG.

I THOUGHT THAT.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

HANG ON.

MINE'S STILL NOT UP.

PUSH YOUR BUTTON.

NO, THAT, THAT ONE.

THERE, THERE CAMS. AND I GUESS WHILE WE'RE DOING THAT, ARE THE FOLKS ON ZOOM ABLE TO SEE THE, UH, YEAH, THERE WE GO.

PICTURE OF, UH, WE WILL SAN BOULEVARD.

NO, WE DON'T SEE THAT.

JUST A MOMENT.

YOU WILL JUST WHEN YOU'RE READY.

OKAY.

OKAY, GO AHEAD.

SORRY.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH, .

THE GRAPHICS ARE COMING FOR THOSE OF YOU, UH, VIRTUAL TODAY.

ALRIGHT.

UH, YEAH.

SO, UH, I GUESS THE, THE FIRST, UH, SLIDE JUST KIND OF, UH, SET THE STAGE FOR WHERE WE'RE WORKING AT AND, UH, WHAT, WHAT WERE YOU LOOKED AT TO START THE, THE PROJECT OFF WITH? UH, SO OBVIOUSLY THIS IS A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN THE TOURS DISTRICT ITSELF.

UH, WE WERE TASKED WITH LOOKING AT A LITTLE BIT LARGER AREA, UH, OBVIOUSLY WITH, UH, AREA WEST OF JOHN MARTIN AS WELL.

UH, AND, AND REALLY JUST KIND OF TAKING IT IN THE OVERALL CLOSER TO THE MICROPHONE.

OKAY.

WHEREVER YOU WANT TAKING IT.

YEAH.

TO THE DOUBLE TEAM HERE.

UH, TAKING IN THE OVERALL, UM, AREA DRAINAGE ANALYSIS, UH, TOPOGRAPHY, AND REALLY JUST GETTING A LOT OF THE LAND.

UH, SO YOU CAN SEE ON THE WEST SIDE, OBVIOUSLY THERE'S A LOT OF, UH, FLOOD PLAIN FLOODWAY AREA THAT WE'RE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, UH, DEALING WITH HERE.

UH, AND THEN ON THE EAST SIDE, WE, WE KIND OF ADDED A, UH, DID A SUITABILITY ANALYSIS JUST AS IF, YOU KNOW, WE, WE DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING IN MIND AT ALL, JUST

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SO YOU HAVE OBVIOUSLY SEVERAL PIPELINE EASEMENTS CROSSING, UH, FUTURE ROADS, EXISTING ROADS, UM, YOU KNOW, EXISTING POCKETS OF VEGETATION.

UH, SO, SO WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE SITE FROM GOOGLE EARTH, YOU MIGHT NOT REALLY UNDERSTAND HOW CHOPPED UP THIS SITE REALLY IS.

UH, BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, THAT GIVES US A LITTLE BIT OF A FRAMEWORK TO WORK WITHIN AS WE KIND OF BEGIN THE VISIONING PROCESS.

ABSOLUTELY.

YEAH.

I OBVIOUSLY AS A, AS A LAND PLANNER, UH, UH, BLANK SHEETS OF PAPER SCARE ME.

YOU KNOW, THESE ARE CONSTRAINTS INITIALLY, BUT THEY START TO, YOU KNOW, INFORM US ON WHAT, ON DESIGN SOLUTIONS.

AND SO, UH, YOU'RE GONNA SEE THESE THINGS STILL REMAIN ON THE PLAN, BUT HOPEFULLY IF WE'VE DONE OUR JOB, THEY'LL KIND OF GO AWAY AND MELD INTO THE BACKGROUND OF AN OVERALL SYSTEM.

ALL RIGHT.

UH, SO, YEAH, UM, ON THE LEFT SIDE OF THE PAGE, UH, REALLY IS JUST KIND OF SOME OF THE ITERATIONS WE WENT THROUGH TO, AGAIN, YOU KNOW, BETTER UNDERSTAND THE AREA.

UM, SO YOU HAVE THE SURROUNDING LAND USE ANALYSIS.

WE DID INTERNAL SITE ANALYSIS, UH, JUST SHOWING THE DIFFERENT, UH, COMMERCIAL MOSTLY ON THE NORTHEAST SIDE OF THE, OF THE PROJECT.

AND THEN, UH, SPARSER, SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL ON THE WEST, UH, I MEAN ON THE SOUTH.

UH, AND THEN YOU CAN SEE SOME OF THE, THE CONCEPTUAL PLANS.

AND WHERE WE ARE REALLY WITH OUR, OUR LANE USE PLAN, INTERNAL LANE USE PLAN RIGHT NOW, UH, FOR THE SITE.

SO THIS IS OBVIOUSLY A, A SCHEMATIC DRAWING, BUT THIS SHOULD GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF WHERE WE'RE AT AS FAR AS MOSTLY, UH, UH, A HIGHER DENSITY RESIDENTIAL, UH, HIGHER DENSITY COMMERCIAL RETAIL LANE USES, UH, TOWARDS I 10, UH, LOWERING THAT, THAT IMPACT A LITTLE BIT TO THE WEST WHERE WE'RE DEALING WITH MORE FLOOD PLAIN FLOODWAY, UM, AND THEN ALSO TO THE SOUTH WHERE WE'RE, WE'RE TRYING TO AGAIN, UH, MATCH THE EXISTING DEVELOPMENT DOWN THERE WITH, UH, JUST SOME MORE, UH, HIGHER DENSITY RESIDENTIAL TOWN HOME, UH, AND ALSO THE COMMERCIAL, UH, THAT WE'RE PROPOSING.

UH, YEAH, SO WE KIND OF, UM, FROM A LAND ANALYSIS STANDPOINT, THE, THE TOOLS WE USE, OBVIOUSLY THERE'S SITE VISITS INVOLVED.

WE'RE, YOU KNOW, UH, GONNA OBSERVE EX EXISTING LAND USE, CURRENT LAND USE, UM, OBVIOUSLY A LOT OF THAT'S BLANK, BUT WE'RE BEING INFORMED BY, BY, YOU KNOW, WHAT MAKES SENSE ALSO IN THE AREA.

AND THE, THE MANTRA THAT I LIKE YOU TO REMEMBER IS THAT CLOSER TO OUR I 10, THE HIGHER THE DENSITY NEEDS TO BE, RIGHT AS WE STEP AWAY FROM I 10, THE LOWER THE DENSITY CAN BE.

UH, BUT PERMEATING ALL OF THIS IS OUR TRAILS AND DRAINAGE SYSTEM, WHICH WE'RE COMBINING.

WE DON'T WANNA TREAT THE DRAINAGE AS JUST A DITCH.

WE DON'T WANT TO TREAT IT AS WELL, THAT'S THROWAWAY LAND.

YOU'RE NEVER GONNA DO ANYTHING WITH IT.

THERE ARE PLENTY OF WAYS TO, IN ESSENCE, AMENITIZE THE DRAINAGE SYSTEM AND HAVE THAT GO THROUGH THE ENTIRE PROGRAM AND CONNECT ALL OF THE DIFFERENT LAND USES.

AND THAT'S, IF YOU WANT TO CALL IT A TOWN CENTER, CALL IT A TOWN CENTER, THIS IS REALLY, FOR US, IT'S ABOUT PLACEMAKING FOR BAYTOWN.

AND WE THINK THAT THE COMBINATION OF THE WATERWAYS, UH, THE, THE BODIES OF WATER WITH THE DEVELOPMENT IS A WAY THAT WE CAN REALLY CREATE A UNIQUE, UH, EXPERIENCE FOR, FOR THE BAYTOWN.

UH, AND THEN ONE THING THAT WE'LL BRIEFLY TOUCH ON HERE IS JUST THE ACTUAL AMOUNT OF DETENTION WE'RE SHOWING FOR THIS SITE.

UM, RIGHT OFF THE BAT, THE AMOUNT OF DETENTION WE'RE SHOWING REALLY IS NOT, NOT COVERING EVERYTHING WITHOUT THE ADDITION OF OFFSITE DETENTION.

UM, AND, AND THAT'S REALLY BASED OFF OF FEEDBACK FROM CITI, FROM BRETT, FROM WHERE WE'RE TRYING TO GET WITH A MORE, UM, HIGHER DENSITY, UH, IMPACTFUL, UH, LAND PLAN AND VISION FOR THIS PROJECT.

YEAH.

IF WE WERE TO IT, IT, IT, IT, LOOK, THIS IS THE REALITY OF LIVING AFTER HARVEY.

ALL THE REGULATIONS HAVE CHANGED, UH, CITY AND COUNTY SAYING HOW MUCH WATER NEEDS TO BE STORED ON A SITE.

YOU KNOW, HOW FLAT IS IT? HOW MU HOW DEEP IS YOUR OUTFALL? UM, WE DON'T WANT TO STORE ALL THE WATER ON THE SITE BECAUSE YOU'RE, IN ESSENCE GETTING RID OF A LOT OF VALUABLE LAND.

WE WANNA CREATE AS MUCH VALUABLE LAND AS POSSIBLE.

AND SO THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME KIND OF PARTNERSHIP FOR OFFSITE DETENTION AND ONSITE.

WHAT WE BELIEVE THAT WE SHOULD DO ON THIS, UM, IS AN ADAPTATION OF WHAT WE CALL LOW IMPACT DEVELOPMENT.

UH, IT'S A WAY OF USING MORE NATURAL DRAINAGE METHODS TO OUR ADVANTAGE.

SO WHAT WOULD WANT TO DO IS WHEN THE RAINWATER HITS THOSE ROOFTOPS, THOSE PARKING LOTS, THOSE DRIVEWAYS, THOSE STREETS IS SLOW THAT WATER DOWN AS SOON AS POSSIBLE BY GETTING IT INTO SOME KIND OF DRAINAGE STRUCTURE, BE IT A LITTLE RIVER STREAM, A SMALL DETENTION BASIN, A LITTLE WATER FEATURE, AND THEN THAT WATER SLOWLY MOVES TO THE NEXT STREAM THAT DELIVERS IT TO THE NEXT POND, WHICH THEN DELIVERS IT TO THE OUTFALL POINT IN THE BAYOU.

SO USING ALL THOSE, AND THINK OF IT ALMOST LIKE WEIRS, RIGHT? MM-HMM .

AND IN THAT WAY, WE CAN, UH, MINIMIZE THE AMOUNT OF ONSITE DETENTION AND MAXIMIZE THE AMOUNT OF AVAILABLE SQUARE FOOTAGE FOR SALE DEVELOPMENT AND REVITALIZATION.

CAN I ASK, CAN I ASK A QUICK QUESTION? GO, PLEASE.

YEAH.

ANYTHING? I THOUGHT, I THOUGHT THAT, UH, REGIONAL DETENTION WAS THE GOAL.

UH, AND I'M, UM, UH, I'M A BANKER,

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AM I WRONG IF I CAN? YEAH.

RIGHT.

LET ME JUST KIND OF ANSWER THAT FOR YOU.

WHAT WAS DISCOVERED THROUGH THIS PROCESS WAS WE COULD NOT MIGRATE ENOUGH WATER OFF OF THIS SITE QUICK ENOUGH INTO THE HARRIS COUNTY, UH, DRAINAGE SYSTEM.

SO SINCE WE CAN'T DO THAT, UM, AND WE WOULD LOSE A LOT OF VALUABLE LAND, UM, BECAUSE OF THIS RUNOFF SITUATION, WHAT WE'VE CREATED ARE A LOT OF AMENITIES USING THE WATER THAT WE WILL KEEP ON SITE AND MIGRATE OUT SLOWLY INTO THE SYSTEM SO AS NOT TO OVERPOWER IT, IT'S JUST THAT WHAT YOU WERE TALKING, JUST THAT KIND OF STEP DOWN PROCESS RATHER THAN, RATHER THAN HAVING ONE GIGANTIC.

YEAH.

AND YOU'LL STILL HAVE A, A LARGE LAKE FEATURE, WHICH IF YOU NOTICE OFF ON THE WEST SIDE OF, OF JOHN MARTIN, THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE FEATURING, UM, WHERE WATER WILL MIGRATE TO.

BUT SINCE WE CAN'T GET ENOUGH OF IT OFFSITE QUICK ENOUGH IN A HEAVY RAIN EVENT, WE HAVE TO, WE HAVE TO THINK ABOUT WHAT WE HAVE TO DO ONSITE.

UM, AND SO ONSITE STORAGE IS GOING TO BE NEEDED.

AND THE SECONDARY PART OF THAT THEN IS HOW DO WE AMENITIZE IT? HOW DO WE MAKE IT ATTRACTIVE AND NOT JUST, UM, A A DRY BED THAT FILLS UP WITH WATER AND DRAINS OUT.

SO AS THEY WALK THROUGH THIS PROCESS, YOU WILL SEE SEVERAL THINGS THAT ARE GONNA BE VERY UNIQUE AMENITIES TO WHAT WE BELIEVE IS GONNA BE A FORWARD VISIONED AREA, UH, FOR COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL AND RETAIL DEVELOPMENT.

THANK YOU.

MM-HMM .

AND I'LL, I'LL ADD JUST A LITTLE BIT THAT, UH, THE EHRA TEAM, WE HAVE A HYDROLOGISTS ON STAFF THAT HELPED WITH THE PROJECT AS WELL.

THAT WAS A COMPONENT.

THE WRITTEN REPORT THAT WE WILL HAVE, UM, JUST HERE IN A FEW MORE WEEKS, WILL INCLUDE LANGUAGE ABOUT WHY WE ASSIGNED THIS MODEL TO, TO THE SITE.

UM, I'LL, I'LL EXPAND ON IT AGAIN JUST A LITTLE BIT, UH, LATER.

UM, WHEN WE KIND OF DIVE INTO WHAT THE SITE PLAN ACTUALLY LOOKS LIKE AT GROUND LEVEL, BUT, UM, UH, THE, THE FLATNESS OF THE SITE AND THE DISTANCE THAT WE HAVE TO THE OUTFALL WOULD REQUIRE GINORMOUS DITCHES OR BOX CULVERTS OR SOME WAY TO GET THE WATER FROM EAST SIDE TO WEST.

AND THAT UNDERGROUND INFRASTRUCTURE IS A HUGE EXPENSE.

AND SO WHAT WE'RE DOING IS, IS ALSO MINIMIZING THAT CONSTRUCTION COST AND APPLYING IT IN WHATEVER WE CAN TO, TO AMENITIZE IT, MAKE IT ATTRACTIVE, PUT SIDEWALKS ON IT, MAKE IT SOMETHING THAT PEOPLE WILL ACTUALLY WANT TO WALK AROUND AND THROUGH AND BUY, RATHER THAN JUST THROWING THAT LAND AWAY.

WHAT IS GONNA BE THE PRIMARY CONVEYANCE SYSTEM? OR IS THERE A PRIMARY, ARE YOU DITCHES OR, OR COVERTS? WE WILL, I ALLOW US TO GET DOWN INTO IT.

WE'LL SHOW YOU ACTUALLY WHAT IT WAS.

THAT'S WHAT I, I WASN YOU, YOU BROUGHT IT UP AND THAT, BUT I DIDN'T KNOW IF THAT WAS, I THOUGHT, WELL, I DIDN'T WANT TO JUMP.

I HATED JUMPING WHILE AGO, AND I THOUGHT, WELL, YOU BRING UP, Y'ALL JUMP IN ANYTIME YOU WANT TO.

THIS IS, THIS IS A CONVERSATION, SO JUST TELL ME TO PIPE DOWN.

WE'LL GET TO YOU IN A MINUTE.

ALL RIGHT.

PIPE DOWN.

NOW, , WE WILL, WE, WE'VE GOT SOME GRAPHICS OF WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE TO STAND ON THE SIDEWALKS AND ON THE STREET, SO YOU'LL UNDERSTAND THAT AS WE GO THROUGH.

GOOD.

THANK YOU.

MM-HMM .

ALRIGHT.

SO LET ME JUST QUICKLY, BRIEFLY, UH, BEFORE WE KIND OF GET DOWN INTO THE, UH, DIFFERENT DISTRICTS AND, AND NODES OF THIS THING, UH, JUST BRIEFLY HIGHLIGHT KIND OF SOME OF THE HIGHER LEVEL THINGS.

SO, UH, THIS IS OUR, BASICALLY THE MOST DETAILED SITE PLAN WE PUT TOGETHER FOR THIS PROJECT.

UH, COMING DOWN SAN JACINTO BOULEVARD.

UH, WE WANTED TO EMBRACE THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, THAT THAT'S OBVIOUSLY A BRAND NEW ROAD, BEAUTIFUL INFRASTRUCTURE THERE ALREADY.

SO, UH, I THINK THAT'S WHERE YOU GET YOUR FIRST PROBABLY PHASES OF, UH, OF COMMERCIAL ALONG THAT TRACK.

AND SO THAT'S REALLY GONNA BE, UH, PROBABLY A HIGH DOLLAR, UH, IMPACTFUL COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENTS AROUND THERE, UH, MOVING WEST.

BUT REAL QUICK, WE WANT TO TRANSFORM THAT ROAD.

I MEAN, IT, IT IS A, IT IS A, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE JUST DRIVING IT, RIGHT? THERE'S NO REASON TO STOP ANYWHERE RIGHT NOW.

WE WANNA MAKE REASONS TO STOP.

WE WANNA MAKE EXPERIENCES ALONG THE WAY.

SO WHEN WE GET DOWN IN THESE STREET LEVEL VIEWS AND EXPLAIN HOW THE LAND USE WORKS, WE WANNA MAKE THE, THE BOULEVARD ITSELF A PLACE TO BE.

AND THEN THE NEXT THING WE DO ONE BLOCK OVER IS, IS THE PEDESTRIAN MALL.

RIGHT? AND, AND THAT'S ACTUALLY ONE, ONE OF THE WAYS OF CONVEYING THAT, UH, STORM WATER FLOW WE WERE TALKING ABOUT EARLIER.

UH, UH, ESSENTIALLY FROM THE, THE NORTHERN PART OF THE DISTRICT, FROM THE, THE FUTURE EXPANSION, UH, EXTENSION OF LONE STAR, UH, WHICH WE'LL GET INTO HERE IN A LITTLE BIT, UH, UH, EXTENDING SOUTH, UH, DOWN TO THAT FLOOD CONTROL DITCH.

UM, AND, AND WE ARE ALSO COGNIZANT OF THE, UH, NEEDING TO HAVE SOME SORT OF BUFFER FROM I 10.

UH, AND SO SOME, SOME OF THE WAY WE'VE DESIGNED THIS DEVELOPMENT IS KIND OF TURNING OUR BACK TO I 10 AND TURNING INWARD, CREATING A ITS OWN DISTRICT, ITS OWN, UH, KIND OF NODES AND, AND VI UH, YOU KNOW, FEELING OF BEING SEPARATED FROM I 10, UH, WAS WITH SOME VERTICALITY.

UH, WE, WE PROPOSED SOME SORT OF HOSPITAL ON THE NORTH OF LONE STAR, WHICH WOULD ACTUALLY ALSO SERVE AS A PRETTY GOOD, UH, BUFFER THERE.

YEAH, YOU GOT HEIGHT AND MASS, YOU KNOW, HELPING TO BLOCK

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MM-HMM .

MM-HMM .

UH, AND THEN MOVING, MOVING FURTHER WEST, UH, UH, TO THIS LARGER AMENITY DETENTION, LIKE, THAT'S REALLY GONNA BE, UH, A, A KEY FOCAL POINT, UH, GATHERING PLACE, UH, FOR, FOR PEOPLE, UH, EITHER FOR EVENTS OR REALLY JUST FOR PASSIVE RECREATION OPPORTUNITIES, UH, MOVING WEST FURTHER WEST.

UH, THAT'S REALLY WHAT WE'LL GET INTO THE, UH, ON A TWO SLIDES FROM NOW.

BUT THAT'S JUST OUR, OUR PHASE ONE DEVELOPMENT, UH, WITH A POTENTIAL, UH, UH, PARK AND RIDE, UH, ON THIS BLUE STRUCTURE HERE WITH A LARGE PARKING THERE.

AND THEN OBVIOUSLY WITH, UH, UH, COMMERCIAL, GENERAL COMMERCIAL SOUTH OF BUCKY'S, UH, WITH A, UH, POTENTIAL RESTAURANT, UH, BAR AND GRILL OVER THERE ON THAT CORNER.

AND THEN THAT LARGE REGIONAL DETENTION FACILITY, KINDA LIKE WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IN THE PAST, THAT THAT'S NECESSARY.

ONE FOR, UH, JUST MITIGATION FOR ALL THE FLOODPLAIN THAT'S ON THE SITE ALREADY, BUT ALSO FOR, UH, SERVING THE DETENTION NEEDS FOR SOME OF THOSE WESTERN MOST TRACKS.

BUT IT WOULD ALSO BE A CITY PARK.

AND SO THE PARKING RIDE LOT IS USED AS THE PARKING FOR A POTENTIAL, UH, CITY PARK WITH, UH, BOARDWALKS GOING OUT INTO THE WATER TRAIL SYSTEMS GOING DOWN, AND, YOU KNOW, DOWN, DOWN, GETTING DOWN INTO A BAYOU AND ACTUALLY ENGAGING AT WATER LEVEL WITH THE TREES AND THE UNDERSTORY STUFF IS ACTUALLY A REALLY NEAT PLACE TO BE.

UM, WE'VE GOT EXAMPLES OF THIS ALL OVER THE AREA WHERE WE'VE STARTED TO FINALLY EMBRACE THE FACT THAT THIS IS AN AREA THAT IS PERMEATED BY BAYOU, AND THEY'RE ACTUALLY PRETTY COOL.

UM, IF WE DON'T JUST, YOU KNOW, SELL PRIVATE HOUND AND BACK UP TO IT WHEN WE ENGAGE THEM AS PARKS, THEY'RE VERY, VERY ATTRACTIVE.

UH, AND THEN, THEN WORKING OUR WAY BACK, KIND OF CLOCKWISE TO THE SOUTH, UH, WE PROPOSED SOME, UM, OFFICE DEVELOPMENTS ALONG HUNT AND JOHN MARTIN AT THAT, THAT INTERSECTION.

UH, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, YOU'LL SEE WHEN WE, WE HAVE A BREAKDOWN OF OUR PROPOSED SQUARE FOOTAGES OF DIFFERENT TYPES OF, UH, USES THAT, THAT'S ONE OF OUR LARGER ONES.

UH, AND THEN, UH, WORKING FURTHER EAST, WE'VE GOT SOME, UH, SENIOR, SENIOR LIVING, UH, ASSISTED, UM, LIVING, RIGHT, BECAUSE PROXIMITY OF THOSE TO, YOU KNOW, KIND OF AN OFFICE, UH, DOCTOR'S OFFICE COMPLEX SORT OF THING, YOU KNOW, THAT'S GOOD FOR THEM.

AND THEY'RE ALSO RIGHT ON THE WALKING TRAIL, WHICH GETS THEM TO RESTAURANTS AND SHOPPING MM-HMM .

TO THE NORTH.

SO, YOU KNOW, YOU COULD REALLY SEE THAT'S THE KIND OF ACTIVE LIVING THAT WE'RE SEEING ADULT COMPLEXES WANT TO HAVE OR BE NEAR THESE DAYS.

UM, VERY DIFFERENT FROM JUST THE RETIREMENT HOME IDEA.

AND AGAIN, THAT'S IMPORTANT TOO, CREATING A VISION OF, UH, HAVING PEOPLE ON SITE ALL THE TIME AT ALL TIMES A DAY, NOT JUST IN THE EVENINGS OR ON THE WEEKENDS.

IT'S PEOPLE LIVE THERE.

PEOPLE LIVE CLOSE BY AND, YOU KNOW, USE THIS AS A, AS A, YOU KNOW, AS A DAILY FEATURE, UH, MAKES 'EM WANNA LIVE THERE.

UM, AT THE INTERSECTION OF SAN JACINTO BOULEVARD AND HUNT, UH, WE, WE'VE PROPOSED CIVIC USES, UM, POTENTIALLY A, A RELOCATION OF CITY HALL OR A LARGER, UH, YOU KNOW, LIBRARY, UH, WHAT HAVE YOU.

UM, EAST OF THAT, WE'VE, UH, WELL, NORTHEAST OF THAT, AT THAT INTERSECTION, WE'VE PROPOSED SOME SORT OF BOUTIQUE GROCERY STORE.

UH, I THINK THAT WOULD BE A DRAW.

WE UNDERSTAND THAT THERE ARE LARGER BOX GROCERY STORES TO THE EAST ON GARTH, BUT, UH, THIS WOULD BE SEPARATE FROM THAT, UH, TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT.

AND, UH, SOMETHING THAT, AGAIN, THAT THE PEOPLE ON SITE COULD WALK THERE, RIDE THEIR BIKES THERE.

UM, ANYTHING ELSE? YEAH, NO, IT IS REALLY ABOUT CREATING, WE'RE GONNA GET INTO IT A, UH, COMMERCIAL FOUR CORNER COMMERCIAL PROPERTY.

BUT YOU COULD ALSO ADD IN THAT, THAT, UH, CIVIC COMPONENT, UM, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF THE TOWN CENTERS, UH, THE CIVIC COMPONENT IS A, IS A NICE ADDITION.

UH, YOU LOOK AT WHAT SUGAR LAND DID WITH THEIR TOWN CENTER, RIGHT? UM, THE, UH, THE CIVIC COMPONENT IN, IN SOME OTHERS IS, IS AN OUTDOOR SPACE, OR, YOU KNOW, UM, UH, I'M TRYING TO THINK HOW, HOW TO CHARACTERIZE THAT.

THE WOODLANDS ONE, WHICH IS MUCH TINIER THAN THIS, FRANKLY, BUT IT, IT, THE, THE CIVIC COMPONENT IS SOMETHING THAT, AGAIN, BRINGS PEOPLE FOR A DIFFERENT REASON.

AND THEN THEY MIGHT WANNA STAY FOR, OH, LOOK WHAT I JUST DISCOVERED, RIGHT? MM-HMM .

AND, AND SO EACH OF THE LAND USES, AND WHERE THEY'RE POSITIONED IS ABOUT, UH, AND, AND THE DISTRIBUTION ACROSS THE ENTIRE PLAN IS ABOUT DISCOVERING, WELL, I CAME HERE FOR THIS, BUT, OH, WOW.

WHAT IF I JUST TOOK A WALK? I DON'T NEED TO GET IN MY CAR AGAIN.

I'M GONNA GO DOWN ONE OF THESE PATHWAYS AND SEE WHAT, I FIND THAT THAT'S THE NEW KIND OF TOWN CENTER IDEA.

UH, I'M, YOU KNOW, I'M, I'M A NATIVE HOUSTONIAN, BEEN HERE FOR 50 YEARS, AND, AND I I'M STILL AMAZED THAT WE CAN DO THIS OUTSIDE.

WE'RE GONNA SHOW YOU WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE TO BE OUTSIDE.

'CAUSE WE UNDERSTAND I'M HERE.

IT'S HOT.

I, I GET IT.

UH, I'M NOT A NORTHERNER.

I HAVE NO IDEA HOW TO ACT IN SNOW.

UM, AND I ALWAYS THOUGHT, OH, MALLS ARE SUPPOSED TO BE COVERED.

NO MALLS ARE SUPPOSED TO BE ENCLOSED AND AIR CONDITIONED AND ALL THIS, NOT TODAY.

WE'RE SEEING HOW, UH, ENGAGING SIDEWALKS AND OUTDOOR SPACES IS SO MUCH MORE IMPORTANT.

AND ESPECIALLY WHAT ALL THE DEVELOPERS ARE TELLING US AFTER GOING THROUGH THIS PAST YEAR, IS THE OUTDOOR SPACES THAT THEY MADE THAT ARE REALLY WELL DONE, ARE REALLY

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UH, AND THAT GOES FOR TOWN CENTERS, IT GOES FOR RECREATION AREAS.

UH, SO WE THINK WE'VE, WE'VE TARGETED SOMETHING THAT IS GOING TO LAST FOR A WHILE BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE STARTING TO UNDERSTAND BEING OUTDOORS IS, IS IMPORTANT AND MEANINGFUL.

QUESTION.

YOU SAID A KEY WORD THERE, SEGUE INTO MY QUESTION.

HOW, HOW MUCH, UH, UH, AND I ASSUME APPROPRIATELY HAS, HAVE THE DEVELOPERS OR THE POTENTIAL DEVELOPERS BEEN INVOLVED IN THIS THING? SO, UH, AND BRETT, I HEAR HIM STICKING.

YEAH.

, IT'LL BE EASIER FOR ME TO ANSWER THIS QUESTION.

OKAY.

UM, OBVIOUSLY SINCE THIS IS A, A NEW VISION LAND PLAN, WE HAVE NOT CIRCULATED OUT TO DEVELOPERS YET, BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY WE NEED TO GET YOUR APPROVAL OF WHAT WE'VE LAID OUT.

UH, AND THEN CERTAINLY WE WOULD HAVE OTHER INTERNAL APPROVALS THROUGHOUT THE CITY THAT THIS WOULD MATCH UP WITH OUR FUTURE VISIONING THROUGH OUR PLANNING DEPARTMENT AS WELL.

UH, AND THEN CERTAINLY ADMINISTRATION AND COUNCIL.

GOT IT.

UM, THERE HAVE BEEN A FEW DEVELOPERS THAT, UM, I HAVE HAD OUT HERE RECENTLY WHO HAVE TOURED THE AREA WHO WERE LOOKING FOR THESE TYPES OF FORWARD PROJECTS, UH, THAT HAVE SEEN THIS, BUT IT HASN'T BEEN RELEASED PUBLICLY YET UNTIL NOW.

SO YOU'VE NOT GONE OUT FOR ANY KIND OF INPUT FROM THEM AT THIS POINT, SO IT'S JUST NO, SIR.

NO, SIR.

AND I THINK THE DIFFERENCE IS, TOO, IS THAT WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT OUR VISION IS CORRECT OF WHAT WE WANT TO SEE BAYTOWN.

UM, IF WE START PRESENTING THIS TO PEOPLE AND IT GETS, UM, CHOPPED UP INTO THEIR VISION, THEN IT'S NO LONGER MATCHING WHAT, WHAT THE FUTURE OF BAYTOWN SHOULD BE ACCORDING TO THE CITY, CITY, AND CITIZENS.

SO WE'RE GONNA, WE'RE GONNA DRIVE THE TRUCK, UH, IF THEY WANT TO GET, UH, ON THE TRUCK WITH US, SO BE IT.

ABSOLUTELY.

OKAY.

GOT IT.

YEAH.

AND THE, THE OTHER THING I ALWAYS SAY ABOUT MY WORK IS IT'S IN COLOR.

IT, IT CAN CHANGE .

IT, IT'S ONLY WHEN IT GETS THOSE, THOSE BLACK AND WHITE DRAWINGS YOU SUBMIT TO CITIES FOR PERMITS, THAT'S WHEN YOU CAN'T CHANGE IT ANYMORE.

, THIS IS TOTALLY CHANGEABLE.

.

AND, AND I WILL JUST ADD ONE MORE THING, IS ONE THING THAT WE, WE PRIDE OURSELVES ON IS, YOU KNOW, BUILDING OR GIVING YOU SOMETHING THAT'S REALISTIC, UH, AND NOT SOMETHING THAT'S PIE IN THE SKY.

YOU KNOW, WE, WE WOULD NEVER SHOW TO OUR OTHER CLIENTS BECAUSE SOMETHING LIKE THIS IS SOMETHING THAT THEY WOULD SEE THAT WE PUT TOGETHER, AND WE WANT THEM TO, WE WANT IT TO BE SOMETHING THAT'S BUILDABLE AND, AND, RIGHT.

AND, AND ONE QUICK, ONE LAST QUICK QUESTION.

FIVE YEARS.

SURE.

, YOU GET THE RIGHT, IF YOU GET THE RIGHT MIX IT, IT WITH THE RIGHT DEVELOPER.

YEAH.

UH, IT'S GOTTA BE A MUCH LONGER TIMEFRAME THAN THAT, FRANKLY.

I DON'T KNOW, DID Y'ALL HAVE A KIND OF A, A BRAINSTORM ABOUT WHAT THAT MIGHT BE? SO THAT'S A, A VERY FORWARD THINKING QUESTION.

THANK YOU, MR. WILSON.

UM, IT WOULD, I'M NOT SURE WE CAN ACTUALLY DEFINE A PERIOD FOR WHEN WE COULD DO THIS AS OF YET.

UM, THE KICKOFF WILL BE OUR FIRST PROJECT, AND THE FIRST PROJECT WILL, WILL NOT ONLY, UM, INCORPORATE, OBVIOUSLY DEVELOPER COMING TO THE SITE, BUT, UM, FINDING THE RIGHT PIECE OF PROPERTY ON THE SITE FOR THEIR PARTICULAR PROJECT, BEING ABLE TO, UM, ASSIST THEM IN ACQUIRING IT FOR THE RIGHT PRICE.

AND THEN IF THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT THE CITY NEEDS TO DO TO, UM, INCENTIVIZE SOMEONE TO COME OUT AND DO THAT, THEN OF COURSE WE HAVE TO ADDRESS THAT THROUGH THE CITY.

SO, UH, IT'S, IT'S A PROCESS.

I THINK INTERNALLY WE'VE HAD THE CONVERSATION THAT ONCE WE GET OUR FIRST PROJECT TO GO HERE, AND PEOPLE SEE THE VISION THAT WE HAVE, THE FIRST WILL BE GET, THE NEXT WILL BE GET THE NEXT WILL BE GET THE NEXT.

SO, UH, IT COULD ROLL OUT FAIRLY QUICKLY.

UM, OUR ANTICIPATION IS THAT WE WOULD ROLL IT OUT FROM THE NORTH TO THE SOUTH AND, UH, MAKE SURE THAT WE TAKE CARE OF THE, THE ATTRACTIVE SPACE UP NEAR I TEN FIRST, BECAUSE THAT'S GONNA BE, UM, THE MOST IMPORTANT, I THINK, AREAS FOR US TO, UH, CREATE THE VISUAL SENSE OF WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO CREATE HERE.

THANK YOU.

SO, YEAH, LET'S, UH, THAT WILL TAKE US TO THE SOUTH REAL QUICK.

WE WON'T SPEND MUCH TIME LOOKING, UH, UH, SOUTH OF THESE, UH, THE PIPELINE EASEMENT, I GUESS IS A REALLY GOOD KIND OF, UH, MIDWAY POINT HERE, BUT, OR, YOU KNOW, A COUPLE HUNDRED FEET SOUTH OF HUNT.

UH, BUT REALLY, LIKE WE MENTIONED EARLIER, THIS IS MORE OF A, A TRANSITION AREA BETWEEN THE EXISTING, UH, SINGLE FAMILY DEVELOPMENTS AND THAT, THAT HIGHER DENSITY URBAN, UH, CORRIDOR THAT WE'RE TRYING TO CREATE TO THE NORTH.

BUT, UH, WE DO ENVISION THIS BEING HIGH DENSITY, UH, RESIDENTIAL, UH, PRODUCTS HERE, UH, WITH, AGAIN, OBVIOUSLY COMMERCIAL CORNERS AND, YOU KNOW, MAKING THE, THE MOST OF THOSE, UH, WELL, THE FUTURE INTERSECTION WITH ARCHER AND, UH, JOHN MARTIN, RIGHT? YEAH.

PROBABLY A LITTLE BIT TOWN HOISH KIND OF PRODUCTS.

UM, IT COULD EVEN BE, UH, APARTMENTS.

UM, DEFINITELY MUCH MORE RESIDENTIAL FEEL THAN NORTH OF, UH, OF THE PIPELINE.

OKAY.

SO, UH, ON THIS, UH, THIS IS REALLY WHAT WE'RE ENVISIONING AS, AS PHASE ONE.

THIS IS, YOU KNOW, YOUR BEGINNING OF THE PROJECT HERE, UH, OBVIOUSLY, UH, SPURRED ON BY THE, UH, THE POTENTIAL PARKING RIDE, UH, TO THE WESTERN CORNER HERE, THE, THE BLUE BUILDING AGAIN.

UH, YOU KNOW, FIRST OF ALL,

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UM, YOU KNOW, ONE THING WE'VE DONE HERE IS WE'VE TRIED TO KEEP, UH, THE, UH, PARKING RIDE, POTENTIAL PARKING RIDE FACILITY OUT OF THE FLOODWAY, BUT AGAIN, AS, AS FAR BACK AS WE CAN GET IT, UH, FROM JOHN MARTIN, PRESERVING THOSE VALUABLE CORNERS, UH, AND AGAIN, THIS, UH, PARK AND RIDE FACILITY COULD BE PHASED.

IT'S, WE'VE KIND OF GOT IT TO WHERE YOU COULD BUILD HALF OF IT TODAY, HALF OF IT TOMORROW, DEPENDING ON WHAT THE, UH, ACTUAL DEMAND IS.

UM, AND IT'S OUR UNDERSTANDING, AND BRETT, IF HE WANTS TO CHIME IN, BUT THE, THE 30,000 FOOT VIEW OF THIS IS, HARRIS COUNTY WANTS TO DO THIS, NOW THEY'RE LOOKING FOR THIS LOCATION, UH MM-HMM.

THEY WANT TO COME HERE, UH, DOING THE PARKING LOT AND THEN CREATING THE CITY PARK OUT OF THE DETENTION STARTS TO SOLVE THE ISSUE OF WHERE DO WE PUT THE WATER AS THE DEVELOPMENT STARTS? SO HERE'S YOUR PHASE ONE DETENTION, HERE'S YOUR PHASE ONE ACCESS, AND THEN HERE'S YOUR FIRST DEVELOPMENT, WHICH IS BRINGING THE, THE PARK AND RIDE IN PLACE.

ANYTHING TO ADD? UM, YEAH, JUST AS YOU'LL RECALL, THE, UH, NICE THING IS THAT THE TRANSIT AUTHORITY HAS MONEY TO PUT INTO THIS PROJECT.

THAT'S WHY THERE IS SOME URGENCY TO LOOK AT THIS AS BEING PHASE ONE TO, UM, POTENTIALLY KICK THIS OFF AS QUICK AS WE CAN BECAUSE THEY'RE ON A, UH, ON A FEDERAL, UH, UM, TIME CLOCK TO USE THE MONEY THAT WAS, UH, DEDICATED TO THEM FOR THIS PARTICULAR SITUATION.

NOT NECESSARILY HERE, BUT TO FIND A NEW PARK AND RIDE SITUATION AND GET IT CREATED HERE IN THE CITY OF BAYTOWN.

SO, SINCE THEY'RE WILLING TO COST SHARE WITH US, THAT WOULD BE ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS WE WOULD LOOK AT IS HOW DO WE HANDLE THIS AND, UH, START GETTING THE DETENTION AREA CREATED ON THE WEST SIDE AND, AND CREATE THE PARK AND THE PARKING RIDE.

WE DON'T HAVE THAT OUT AT SAN MALL OR OUT AT THAT.

WE DON'T HAVE THAT PARKING RIDE OUT THERE ANYMORE, DO WE? OR IS, UH, DID IT? UH, I'M, I'M, I'M NOT SURE WHERE IT EXISTS NOW, BUT I KNOW THAT, UM, WHEN THE MALL STARTED DOING ITS DECONSTRUCTION WORK, UH, A LITTLE OVER A YEAR AGO, UH, THERE WAS SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT WHERE THEY COULD BE, UH, AND COULD BE SAFELY.

AND WITH THE MALL DEVELOPMENT STILL IN FLUX OF WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO, UM, THE PARK AND RIDE SITUATION JUST DIDN'T SEEM TO BE A PART OF THOSE PLANS.

MM-HMM .

SO HARRIS COUNTY NEEDS TO, UH, YOU KNOW, GET WITH, AND WE'VE TRIED OTHER PROPERTY OWNERS IN THE AREA WHERE IT MIGHT'VE WORKED AND NOTHING JUST WAS ABLE TO WORK OUT.

PROPERTIES WERE TOO SMALL, ACCESS POINTS WERE TOO LIMITED.

UM, BUCKY'S WAS TOO BUSY AND IT JUST SO HAPPENED THAT, UM, THIS ENDED UP BEING IN, IN, IN MY VIEW, PROBABLY THE BEST AREA THAT WE COULD WORK TOGETHER WITH THEM ON IT AND PRESENTED IT TO, TO THEM.

AND THEY ENJOYED THAT AS WELL.

SO THAT'S, THAT'S BEEN THAT PROCESS.

YEAH.

UH, AND JUST, UH, A COUPLE CHARACTER IMAGES OF WHAT WE COULD POTENTIALLY ENVISION THE, UH, AMENITY DETENTION LAKE, UH, TO LOOK LIKE, UH, MOSTLY PASSIVE.

YOU HAVE A, A PIER THERE, SO YOU COULD POTENTIALLY HAVE A BOAT LAUNCH CANOES, UM, FOUNTAINS OBVIOUSLY OUT THERE, BUT, UH, NOT, NOT A VERY, UM, EXTREME OR, OR HEAVILY, UH, I GUESS PROGRAMMED AREA.

MORE OF A, UH, NOT A DYNAMIC WALKING TRAILS.

YEAH, EXACTLY.

FACILITY, UHHUH, .

UH, BUT WE DO ENVISION, UH, THE LONE STAR AVENUE EXTENSION AS A, AS A PART OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WOULD NEED TO BE BUILT TO, TO GET ALL THIS STUFF IN PHASE ONE AS WELL AS THESE TWO, UH, THE LARGE DETENTION BASIN, AND THEN OBVIOUSLY THE SMALL CORNER THERE.

WOULD IT BE CORRECT TO SAY THAT THE LONE STAR AVENUE EXTENSION IS A BIG PART OF, UH, WE ARE A BIG PART OF WHERE THAT MONEY COMES FROM, SPECIFICALLY? YES.

YEAH.

IT, IT, IT IS PART OF THE OVERALL INFRASTRUCTURE PACKAGE THAT WOULD NEED TO BE DONE.

I MEAN, IT'S GREAT ACCESS FROM THE FREEWAY, TAKING YOU AWAY FROM HAVING TO USE, UM, UH, IT'S YOUR FIRST EXIT, RIGHT? YOU CAN GET OFF THE FREEWAY EARLIER.

FOR THOSE THAT KNOW, IT'D BE A GREAT ENTRANCE POINT.

UM, AND, AND, UH, ALSO INCORPORATING ALL THOSE LAND USES FURTHER TO THE WEST IN, INTO THE PROJECT.

'CAUSE THERE'S REALLY NO GOOD WAY, IF YOU'RE GONNA TRY AND USE JUST, JUST, UM, UH, JOHN MARTIN, JOHN MARTIN, IT, IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY WORK AS WELL.

'CAUSE THERE'S ONLY ONE AXIS.

SO WE GET THAT OTHER AXIS AND START TO DEVELOP SOME, SOME SYNERGIES.

PLUS WE'RE ACTUALLY USING, UH, LONE STAR, UH, IS FRONTAGE TO A NUMBER OF NEW BUSINESSES, WHICH THEN HAVE THEIR BACKSIDE TO THE AMENITIES THAT WE'RE CREATING.

AND SO THE, THE STOREFRONTS COULD ACTUALLY GO FROM ONE SIDE, FROM THE PARKING LOT SIDE ON LONE STAR, ALL THE WAY THROUGH TO THIS GLASS SIDE THAT WOULD THEN LOOK OUT ON THE AMENITY, UH, RATHER THAN HAVING, UH, A TRADITIONAL KIND OF REAR DOOR DELIVERY.

UH, THIS IS MORE LIKE THE, THESE STORES WOULD ACTUALLY GO ALL THE WAY THROUGH THE BUILDING, UH, AND YEAH, EXACTLY LIKE THAT.

AND WE'VE SEEN THIS TO GREAT EFFECT.

UH, YOU SEE SOME EXAMPLES OF THIS ON THESE MANMADE LAKES.

UH, YOU KNOW, IN THE, IN THE SUGARLAND AREA UP NORTH, UM, UH, THERE'S,

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SO YOU'RE, YOU'RE ACTUALLY CREATING MUCH MORE VALUE FOR EACH OF THOSE FACILITIES.

'CAUSE YOU'RE NOT RELYING JUST ON CAR TRAFFIC.

YOU'RE NOW HAVE FOOT TRAFFIC, UH, COMING FROM ANOTHER PLACE.

AND THEN IT, UH, YOU KNOW, THOSE STREET SIDE CAFES, YOU PUT 'EM ON THE OTHER SIDE NOW, AND NOW THEY'RE NOW WATERFRONT CAFES.

A LOT MORE VALUE OUT OF A RESTAURANT HAVING A GOOD VIEW THAN A, THAN A VIEW OF A, OF A BUMPER.

RIGHT.

UH, AND SO THAT, THAT'S WHY THAT DESIGN IS DONE THAT WAY.

UH, YEAH.

SO, AND, AND ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT WE WERE CONSCIOUS OF IS WE'RE TRYING TO LIMIT THE AMOUNT OF PARKING ON STREET, UH, BETWEEN THE BUILDINGS AND THE STREET.

I KNOW THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS, YOU KNOW, ALREADY KIND OF OUT, UH, OUTLINED IN THE OVERLAY DISTRICT, UH, THAT THE CITY PRODUCED IN THE PAST.

BUT, YOU KNOW, THIS IS ONE SITUATION, AGAIN, KIND OF TALKING BACK TO WHAT CHRIS IS SAYING, BUT, YOU KNOW, THIS IS ONE WHERE WE CREATE THE BUFFER WITH THE PARKING.

UH, IT KIND OF TURN OUR BACK TO THAT, UH, TO THE CAR DEALERSHIPS, TO THE NORTH, AND, UH, ALSO THE FUTURE EXTENSION OF THE, OF, UH, LONE STAR.

UM, COUPLE OTHER THINGS ABOUT THIS AMENITY, LIKE THIS WOULD OBVIOUSLY BE, UH, CLOSER TO WHERE ALL THE ACTION IS.

UM, SO WE, WE DO ENVISION THIS BEING A LITTLE BIT MORE PROGRAMMED, UH, HAVING A POTENTIAL, UH, A, A STAGE, IF YOU WILL, THAT IS MAYBE, UH, WITH THIS LITTLE LOLLIPOP, UM, KIND OF SHAPE IS HERE OUT ONTO THE WATER, UH, WITH A, WITH, UH, WATER WALLS AND, AND ALL SORTS OF KIND OF INTERESTING SCULPTURES AROUND IT.

LANDSCAPING, UH, DEFINITELY A LITTLE BIT MORE INVOLVED.

UH, BUT ALSO THAT'S HOW WE'RE TRYING TO CAPTURE SOME OF THE VALUE WITH THOSE RETAIL AND RESTAURANTS AND, AND OFFICE AROUND HERE.

UM, AND AGAIN, THIS WOULD BE A MAJOR, UH, DETENTION FEATURE AS WELL FOR, FOR THE SURROUNDING DEVELOPMENTS.

UH, SO WE DO ENVISION THAT KIND OF BECOMING ONE OF THE, THE NEXT STAGES OF DEVELOPMENT AS THE DISTRICT GETS GOING.

UM, JUST A, A POSSIBLE IMAGE OF WHAT THAT COULD LOOK LIKE IN THE EVENING.

AND YOU CAN SEE THAT STAGE OUT THERE ON THE, UH, ON THE WEST, UH, OVER OUR, OVER THE LAKE.

UM, BUT WE YEAH, I MEAN, WE, WE ASKED THE, UH, WE ASKED OUR ARTISTS TO, TO PUT THE FIREWORKS IN THERE.

'CAUSE CAN YOU IMAGINE WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE IN 4TH OF JULY WITH A WHOLE BUNCH OF PEOPLE ON THOSE SIDEWALKS AND, AND, YOU KNOW, UH, WALKING THROUGH THOSE STREET CAFES AND, AND GOING TO THOSE BUSINESSES AND, AND THEN JUST, YOU KNOW, WATCHING THE REFLECTIONS OVER THE WATER, UM, COULD BE A REALLY FANTASTIC, UH, OPEN SPACE.

AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT VALUE WISE, I KNOW YOU'RE LOOKING AND GOING, OH, WELL, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE NOT USING THAT AREA.

IT'S A BIG, YOU KNOW, BLANK SPOT, AND IT'S JUST A, A, A LAKE.

THERE'S A LOT OF VALUE TO THIS IF WE, IF WE ORGANIZE IT IN THE RIGHT WAY AND HAVE BUSINESSES, YOU KNOW, ABLE TO TURN TOWARDS IT INSTEAD OF, UH, JUST TREATING IT AS A, AS A HOLE IN THE GROUND.

UM, THESE STREET CAFES IDEAS ARE JUST, THEY'VE, THEY'VE POPPED UP EVERYWHERE.

UM, THE RESTAURANTS ARE ABLE TO, UH, HAVE THUS MINIMAL SQUARE FOOTAGE.

THEY CAN, NOT MINIMAL, BUT THEY MINIMIZE THE SQUARE FOOTAGE THEY HAVE INTERIOR BECAUSE THEY CAN THEN JUST PUT THEIR TABLES ON THE OUTSIDE.

TECHNICALLY, YOU GET AROUND A FEW, UH, SEATING, UH, ISSUES WITH THAT.

BUT IT WORKS FOR EVERYBODY BECAUSE THEN THIS, 'CAUSE YOU HAVE VIBRANCY THAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU GOT PEOPLE THAT ARE, YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT CLOTHING RACKS THAT ARE ON THE SIDEWALK.

AND THEN THE NEXT THING YOU SEE IS, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE WALKING THROUGH THE TABLES.

IT'S A VERY, FOR LACK OF A BETTER TERM, A LITTLE BIT OF A EUROPEAN IDEA, BUT IT REALLY WORKS.

AND WHEN YOU GET IT JUST FOR PEDESTRIANS, UH, THERE'S A, THERE'S A REAL KIND OF VIBRANCY.

AND THAT OPEN SPACE JUST MAKES THEM FEEL, UM, MAKES 'EM FEEL LIKE ENGAGING THE SPACE INSTEAD OF BEING INSIDE OF A CANYON.

UM, SO ONE OF THE, UH, I DON'T WANNA SAY ELEPHANTS IN THE ROOM, BUT ONE OF THE, UH, ONE OF THE, UH, HURDLES WE HAVE HERE IS ACKNOWLEDGEMENTS.

ACKNOWLEDGEMENTS, YES.

IS THE EXISTING, UH, CALIBER COLLISION ON SITE.

UH, THAT'S WHAT THAT HATCHED AREA IS.

UH, SO WE DID JUST WANNA TO SHOW AN ALTERNATIVE IF, UH, CALIBER, UH, FOR WHATEVER REASON DID NOT WANNA RELOCATE.

UH, IT DOESN'T REALLY BLOW UP OUR, OUR IDEA, OUR SIDE PLAN.

THAT'S JUST SOMETHING WE CAN WORK AROUND IT, RIGHT? RIGHT.

UM, BUT ONE THING WE HAVE PROPOSED ACTUALLY IS A LOCATION FOR CALIBER, UH, JUST AT THAT SOUTHWEST INTERSECTION OF, UH, FUTURE LONE STAR AND, AND JOHN MARTIN.

RIGHT.

IT, IT'S REALLY ABOUT, DOES, DOES THAT LAND USE, DOES THAT BUSINESS USE MAKE SENSE IN THAT LOCATION WITH THE KIND OF REDEVELOPMENT THAT WE'RE PROPOSING FOR THE OVERALL TRACT? AND IF, AND IF IT IS, THAT'S FINE.

WE CAN SCREEN THEM A LITTLE BIT.

WE CAN ANGLE A BUILDING AND TURN OUR BACK TO IT A LITTLE BIT.

UH, AND, AND THEY CAN STILL BE A VIABLE PART OF THE COMMUNITY.

IF NOT, THEN LET'S FIND 'EM SOMEWHERE ELSE WHERE IT IS APPROPRIATE.

AND WE CAN USE THE LAYOUT THAT WE SHOWED YOU BEFORE.

SO THERE'S, THERE'S FLEXIBILITY.

IN OTHER WORDS, WE JUST DIDN'T WANNA SAY, OH, YOU KNOW, THEY GOTTA GO AWAY.

WE'RE NOT SAYING THAT AT ALL.

IT'S, IT'S JUST, LET'S ACKNOWLEDGE THAT MAYBE THAT'S NOT THE RIGHT USE FOR THAT LOCATION WITH WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO.

OOPS.

UH, AND THEN JUST A COUPLE OF, UH, AGAIN, WE'RE, WE'RE GONNA HIT ON THESE INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS FOR ALL THESE AREAS.

JUST TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA

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AND OBVIOUSLY THE DETENTION POND WOULD BE THE MAJOR THING HERE, BUT ALSO JUST FOR GENERAL CIRCULATION SO THAT THESE BUSINESSES CAN, CAN BASICALLY FEED OFF OF OUR IDEA AND OUR VISION, UH, 50 FOOT RIGHT OF WAY.

UH, AND THEN TRAILS AND, UH, AND THEN THESE LANDSCAPE ARCHITECTURE IMPROVEMENTS, THE STAGE, UH, LANDSCAPING, WHAT HAVE YOU, BUT WHAT WE THINK THAT MIGHT BE, UH, SMART FOR THESE STREETS BECAUSE, UM, IN THE DAYTIME, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE GETTING DELIVERIES, BUT MAYBE YOU CLOSE THOSE AND YOU HAVE THOSE BE JUST PEDESTRIAN ACCESS, UH, IN THE EVENING HOURS.

UH, IT'S A, A WAY, AGAIN, TO DOUBLE USE THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT'S BUILT.

IT DOESN'T NEED TO BE CARS.

AND PEOPLE ALWAYS MIXING, WE CAN GO AHEAD AND SHUT THOSE OFF.

THEY BECOME PEDESTRIAN WAYS.

EASY PEASY.

YOU DO THAT WITH BOLLARDS, YOU DO IT WITH ACTUAL BARRICADES, HOWEVER IT CAN BE DONE.

AND AGAIN, UH, I'LL JUST STAY ON THAT IDEA, UH, LIKE CHRIS IS SAYING, BUT THAT THERE'S SEVERAL, UH, STREETS IN HERE THAT WE'RE PROPOSING IN THIS, UH, I GUESS CENTRAL GREEN IS WHAT WE'RE, WE'RE TILING IT, BUT SEVERAL INTERNAL STREETS THAT WOULD BE PROPOSED TO BE PRIVATE STREETS, REALLY, UM, OPERATED BY TOURS OR, OR WHOEVER THE, THE DIRECTOR OF THE DISTRICT REALLY.

AND, UH, THAT COULD CLOSE 'EM DOWN FOR FESTIVALS, CLOSE 'EM DOWN ON WEEKENDS, UH, BUT REALLY DO PROVIDE THE SERVICE THAT THESE BUILDINGS WOULD NEED.

I MEAN, GETTING, YEAH, YOU HAVE DELIVERY TRUCKS, YOU GOTTA HAVE AN ELECTRICIAN, YOU KNOW, COME TO FIRE SOMETHING, FIRE CODE, ALL THAT, BUT THEY CAN OPERATE AS, AS A PEDESTRIAN WALKWAY IS JUST THE SAME.

SO, UH, THIS CENTRAL GREEN IS REALLY ONE OF THOSE, UH, THOSE FEATURES THAT THE PROJECT IS KIND OF, IT'S BASED AROUND .

BASED AROUND, RIGHT.

EXACTLY.

AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE THINK IS GONNA BE ONE OF THE REAL DRAWS TO THE, TO THE PROJECT.

UH, CREATING A, UH, A LANDSCAPE ARCHITECTURE COMPONENT, DETENTION DRAINAGE COMPONENT, UH, THAT, THAT BUSINESSES AND, AND, AND PEOPLE WANT TO BE AROUND, UH, AND, AND KIND OF PROVIDE SOME IDENTITY TO THE DISTRICT.

UM, AND THEN ONE OTHER THING, AT, AT THE NORTH PART, WE ARE PROPOSING A, A FOCAL POINT, IF YOU CAN SEE MY HAND UP THERE.

UM, AND IT, IT WOULD PROVIDE SOME, SOME MASSING, UH, TO THE PROJECT.

SOME, SOME, AGAIN, WAY FINDING, SOME PLACEMAKING.

UH, SO, YOU KNOW, OKAY, THIS IS, I'M AT THE DISTRICT, OR I'M AT THE SAN JACINTO DISTRICT, UH, AND, AND YOU CAN SEE THAT FROM I 10.

YOU CAN SEE IT ESSENTIALLY FROM ALL OVER, UH, THE DISTRICT.

BUT, UM, YEAH, WE WANT TO DO SOMETHING ARTSY.

UH, WE, WE TOYED WITH SEVERAL IDEAS, UM, SETTLED ON, ON SOMETHING THAT'S, I DON'T KNOW, WE'RE GONNA CALL IT EVOCATIVE OF KIND OF ONE OF THOSE, UH, UH, OH, UH, BLOW OFF, UH, FLAME , BUT, BUT DONE MORE SCULPTURALLY AND, AND THIS COULD BE ANYTHING.

UM, IT, IT CAN ALSO TRANSFORM ITSELF USING LIGHTING, UH, AT NIGHT.

UH, LEDS ON THESE THINGS CAN DO WONDERS TO MAKE JUST THIS INCREDIBLE, UH, YOU KNOW, ELECTRIC SHOW.

UM, YEAH, THERE'S A NIGHTTIME SCENE.

UH, IT CAN REALLY BE A BEACON THEN AT NIGHT, UH, FOR THIS SITE.

AND, AND AGAIN, IT, IT'S THE ELEMENT THAT SAYS YOU'VE ARRIVED AT THE SANTO DISTRICT.

UM, BUT YOU CAN SEE HOW THE, UH, THIS WOULD BE IN ESSENCE THE HEADWATERS .

IT'S KIND OF A RIVER STREAM IDEA, UH, SINCE WE'RE, WE'RE AT THE HEADWATERS OF, OF THE SITE, THE, THE UPPER PART OF THE SITE.

AND SO THE WATER THAT'S COMING OFF THE ROOFTOPS, THE WATER THAT'S COMING OFF THE SIDEWALKS AND SUCH, UM, AND YOU CAN ACTUALLY RECIRCULATE WATER INTO THIS AS WELL.

SO, UM, WE CAN HAVE THE RIVER STREAM.

IT IS A PLACE OF ENGAGEMENT.

YOU CAN GET THE, GET THE WALKWAYS RIGHT DOWN TO IT.

UH, AND IT'S, AND IT'S A LITTLE BIT, UM, I GUESS THE DEPTH WOULD NOT BE AS GREAT AS SOME OF THE OTHER AREAS WHEN WE SHOW YOU SOME OF THE OTHER AREAS THAT IT, IT'S REALLY LIKE GETTING DOWN IN THERE AND KIND OF GETTING DOWN INTO THE BAYOU IDEA.