* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.
          [00:00:25]
          CALL 
          [ CITY OF BAYTOWN  			 NOTICE OF MEETING 		 		 		 		 		 		 		 		 			 			  			BAYTOWN POLICE ADVISORY COMMITTEE 			TUESDAY, MAY 11, 2021 			6:00 P.M. 			COUNCIL CHAMBER, CITY HALL 			2401 MARKET STREET, BAYTOWN, TEXAS 77520 			   			Due to the COVID 19 Disaster and the CDC's recommendation regarding social distancing measures, the public may not be allowed to be physically present at this meeting, as there is a limited amount of space when maintaining the required six feet of separation from others. The public will be able to participate through two-way communications.  			 			The public will be able to participate through two-way communications. For video conferencing, use the following website www.zoom.com, click on "join a meeting" on the top right hand corner, and input the following Meeting ID: 816 2364 3738 .  For telephone conferencing please use the following toll-free number: 1-888-788-0099, Meeting ID: 816 2364 3738.   			 			Any person, who is participating through video/teleconferencing and is interested in speaking on any item on the agenda, must submit his/her request to the City Clerk via cityclerk@baytown.org.  The request must include the speaker's name, address, and phone number that will be used if teleconferencing as well as the agenda item number.  The request must be received prior to the posted time of the meeting. 			 			The agenda packet is accessible to the public in both HTML and PDF formats at the following link: https://www.baytown.org/city-hall/city-clerk/agendas-minutes. For more information or questions concerning the teleconference, please contact the Office of the City Clerk at 281-420-6504. 			  			AGENDA 			   			CALL TO ORDER AND ANNOUNCEMENT OF QUORUM 			 		 	  ]
OUR MEETING TO ORDER AT 6 0 6, UM, PM WE HAVE, UM, MS. BRAXTON IS ON ZOOM. 
          IS THAT CORRECT? OKAY. 
          MS. BRAXTON IS ON, IS ON ZOOM. 
          SO WE WILL GO RIGHT INTO OUR, UM, AGENDA FOR TONIGHT. 
          FIRST THING WE WANT TO DO IS 
          [1. MINUTES]
WE WANT TO CONSIDER APPROVING THE MINUTES FROM JANUARY THE 26TH, FEBRUARY THE 23RD, AND MARCH OF THE 30TH. 
          SO, CAN WE GET A, I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE ACCEPT THEM. 
          SECOND MOTION MADE BY, UH, PASTOR, UH, BOACHER, SECOND BY DR. 
          STANSKI. 
          ARE YOU TAKING 'EM ALL IN? ARE YOU TAKING 'EM AS A GROUP? YES, MA'AM. 
          OKAY. 
          YES, SIR. 
          I'M SORRY. 
          TAKING 'EM AS A GROUP. 
          IS EVERYBODY OKAY WITH THAT? YEP. 
          OKAY. 
          ALL IN FAVOR INDICATE BY SAYING AYE. 
          AYE. 
          ALL OPPOSED? AYE. 
          ALRIGHT, NEXT ON THE AGENDA IS OUR BUSINESS BUSINESS ITEMS. FOR TONIGHT, WE 
          [a.  Discuss and consider recommendations regarding mental illness, transparency and accountability, positive engagement and/or training and development to be presented to the City Council.]
WANT TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER RECOMMENDATION REGARDING MENTAL, UH, ILLNESS TRANSPARENCY AND ACCOUNTABILITY, POSITIVE ENGAGEMENT, AND OUR TRAINING AND DEVELOPMENT TO BE PRESENTED TO THE, UH, CITY COUNCIL. 
          SO I BELIEVE WE HAVE, UM, THE SLIDES FOR THE, UM, RED BUTTON BUTTON. 
          HIT THE RED BUTTON. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          SO IF EVERYBODY WILL HIT YOUR RED BUTTON AND YOU'LL SEE THE, YOU'LL SEE THE SLIDES THAT, UM, PASTOR BOEN BOACHER, MYSELF AND, UH, KAREN, UH, AND, AND, UH, ANGELA. 
          THANK BOTH OF THEM. 
          AND, UM, WHO ELSE WAS WITH US? THAT WAS IT. 
          OKAY. 
          YEAH. 
          UH, WE MET THE OTHER DAY TO TALK ABOUT HOW OUR PRESENTATION WOULD LOOK AND HOW WE WOULD PROCEED WITH OUR PRESENTATION FOR, UM, CITY COUNCIL, WHICH WILL BE ON THE 27TH OF THIS MONTH. 
          AND THIS, UM, BEFORE YOU IS THE SLIDES THAT WE PUT TOGETHER. 
          WE, I WANT TO, WE WANT TO SHOW THESE SLIDES AND ALSO GET YOU ALL'S, UM, OPINIONS, UH, CARES, CONCERNS, THOUGHTS, ADDITIONS, SUBTRACTIONS THAT WE MIGHT WANNA MAKE, UH, BEFORE THE PRESENTATION ON, UH, ON THE 27TH. 
          SO, BASICALLY, WE'RE GONNA START OFF WITH THE FIRST SLIDE IS, THIS IS GONNA BE A HISTORY OF THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT ADVISORY, UH, COMMITTEE, UH, WHICH WAS THE, UH, ORIGINAL, UH, COMMITTEE. 
          AND IT TALKS ABOUT THE 13 FORMS THAT WE HELD. 
          THE TWO, LET'S TALK ABOUT THE COMMUNITY SYMPOSIUMS, UM, THE LAW IN YOUR COMMUNITY TRAINING, THE MULTIPLE MEETINGS, THE BAYTOWN POLICE DEPARTMENT, POLICY AND PROCEDURES, MENTAL HEALTH CHALLENGES. 
          AND, UM, POLICING TALKS ABOUT THE OUTREACH EFFORTS TO ENGAGE MINORITY AND MARGINALIZED COMMUNITIES. 
          THE OFFICERS TRAINING, UH, AND THE BAYTOWN POLICE DEPARTMENT COMPLAINING COMPLAINT PROCESS. 
          UH, THOSE WERE ALL ISSUES THAT WE TALKED ABOUT IN THE ORIGINAL, UM, COMMITTEE. 
          UM, WHICH WAS, UM, THE COMMITTEE THAT BIRTHED THIS COMMITTEE. 
          SO THE NEXT SLIDE WILL BE, DID I TURN IT ON? THAT DOESN'T CHANGE IT, IT JUST GOES BACK AND FORTH BETWEEN SHE'S GONNA, YEAH, SHE'S GONNA CHANGE IT FOR YOU. 
          OH, OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          I'M SORRY. 
          I'M JUST ALL EVERYWHERE RIGHT NOW. 
           . 
          SO THEN WE TRANSITIONED TO THE BAYTOWN POLICE ADVISORY COMMITTEE, UM, WHICH IS, WHICH IS US. 
          UH, THE COMMITTEE WAS CREATED, UM, MAYOR, UH, THE MAYOR CREATED THE BAYTOWN COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT ADVISORY COMMITTEE IN MAY OF 2019. 
          RESOLUTION 2, 2, 6, 1. 
          THE CITY COUNCIL ESTABLISHED THE BAYTOWN COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT ADVISORY COMMITTEE ON JUNE THE 11TH. 
          UH, CITY COUNCIL UPDATED THE NAME, UH, THE COMPOSITION TERMS AND REQUIREMENTS OF THE BAYTOWN COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT ADVISORY COMMITTEE ON AUGUST 31ST. 
          UH, CITY COUNCIL APPOINTED MEMBERS TO THE BAYTOWN POLICE ADVISORY COMMITTEE. 
          OCTOBER THE EIGHTH THROUGH NOVEMBER THE 17TH. 
          SO THE FIRST SLIDE IS BASICALLY TALKING ABOUT THE ORIGINAL COMMITTEE. 
          THE SECOND SLIDE THEN TRANSITIONS INTO THE COMMITTEE THAT WE ARE NOW. 
          AND THEN NEXT WE'LL TALK ABOUT THE ACTIVITIES THAT WE HAVE, UM, THAT WE HAVE COMPLETED 
          [00:05:01]
UP TO DATE. 
          UH, WE'VE HELD FOUR COMMU, UH, UH, COMMITTEE MEETINGS. 
          WE RECEIVED TRAINING ON THE OMA AND THE PIAI MUST HAVE MISSED THOSE ACRONYMS 'CAUSE I DON'T HAVE THE SLIGHTEST, I DEAL WHAT THOSE ACRONYMS MEAN. 
          SO, CAN WE, UM, I'M SORRY. 
          THAT'S THE OPEN MEETINGS ACT AND THE PUBLIC INFORMATION ACT. 
          OKAY. 
          ON THE, ON THE SLIDE, CAN WE PUT THOSE MM-HMM . 
          THE FULL NAMES ON THERE BECAUSE SOMEONE IS GONNA ASK ME, WHAT ARE THOSE, AND I'M GONNA SAY, KAREN TOLD ME WHAT THEY ARE, BUT I DON'T REMEMBER . 
          SO THE OPEN MEETINGS ACT AND THE PUBLIC INFORMATION INFORMATION ACT AND CIVIL SERVICE. 
          WE TOOK THE TOUR OF THE BAYTOWN POLICE, UH, STATION, THE OVERVIEW OF FUTURE BAYTOWN PUBLIC SAFETY FACILITY, AND WE ESTABLISH OUR BUCKETS OF CONCERN JUST ON THE, ON THE CHARTS. 
          ANGIE, IF WE HANDLE THOSE KINDA LIKE WE DID ON THE FIRST ONE, IF THERE'S A, TO THIS POINT ON THE ACRONYM, IF IT'S THERE ONCE, IF WE SPELL IT OUT, PARENTHESES IT, AND THEN IF IT'S AFTER THAT, BUT AT LEAST THEN HE WON'T GET HIT WITH THAT QUESTION. 
          YES. 
          OKAY. 
          AND ON THE ESTABLISHED BUCKETS, CAN WE PUT AN ESTABLISHED BUCKET LIST OF CONCERNS? ANYBODY SEE ANYTHING ELSE? GROUP. 
          OKAY. 
          NEXT. 
          SO THESE WERE THE BUCKET LIST OF CONCERNS, MENTAL HEALTH, TRANSPARENCY AND ACCOUNTABILITY TRAINING AND DEVELOPMENT AND POSITIVE ENGAGEMENT. 
          NEXT. 
          AND FROM THOSE, FROM THOSE BUCKET LIST OF CONCERNS, FROM THOSE CONCERNS, THE COMMITTEE, UH, CHOSE TO, UM, DEAL WITH OR TO WORK ON, UH, MENTAL ILLNESS, UH, AS OUR FIRST PRIORITY. 
          UH, THE BPAC PRIORITIZE THIS AS THE NUMBER ONE PRIORITY AND THE BPAC RECOMMENDATIONS ARE, AND THAT'S WHAT WE ARE HERE TO TALK ABOUT TONIGHT. 
          UH, WHAT, WHAT, WHAT ARE WE GONNA DO? WHAT DO WE WANT TO DO MOVING FORWARD AS IT RELATES TO, UM, THE INFORMATION THAT WE GIVE TO THE, UH, THE CITY COUNCIL? I KNOW ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT A LOT WAS THE, THE DECALS. 
          UM, I REMEMBER, UH, CHIEF HOLDER SAYING THAT ANY INFORMATION THAT THE PD HAS MAKES THE MORE INFORMATION THE BETTER. 
          UM, SO I WANT TO, WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT TONIGHT. 
          UM, DO WE JUST WANT TO PRESENT WHAT WE'VE DONE OR DO WE ALSO WANNA MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS TO CITY COUNCIL TO LOOK INTO, UM, CERTAIN THINGS MOVING, MOVING FORWARD, SUCH AS THE, THE DECALS AND MONEY? YES. 
          YEAH. 
          YES. 
          THE FINANCIAL ASPECT OF IT. 
          YES. 
          SO THE, THE, THE, THE, UM, THE WAY THAT I WAS GONNA GO ABOUT PRESENTING IT TO THEM, IF WE DECIDE THAT WE WANT TO MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS, I WAS GONNA SAY SOMETHING TO, UH, TO THE EFFECT THAT WE WILL, TONIGHT, WE JUST WANT TO PLANT THE SEED FOR THE, FOR THE COUNCIL TO, UM, CONSIDER. 
          AND THESE ARE SOME THINGS THAT WE WANT TO LOOK AT AS IT RELATES TO DECALS. 
          UM, ARE THERE OTHER CITIES THAT DO IT? HOW DO WE WANT OUR DECAL TO LOOK? WHAT DO WE WANT IT TO LOOK LIKE? AND WHAT IS THE COST THAT WE WOULD INCUR IF WE MOVE FORWARD WITH, UM, THE DECAL, UM, SUGGESTION. 
          SO WE'RE GONNA OPEN THE FLOOR UP NOW FOR, UH, FOR DISCUSSION. 
          I, I THINK I COULD, UH, IT JUST FOLLOW UP FROM, FROM THERE, FROM OUR DISCUSSION THE OTHER DAY. 
          UM, I, I THINK THE, AS, AS DR. 
          KANSKY HAS ALREADY SAID, NUMBER ONE, YOU KNOW, THE FINANCIAL ASPECT OF IT, UM, WAS, WAS MY MAIN CONCERN. 
          NUMBER TWO IS, IS IS THERE A WAY TO BE MORE IN UNIFORMITY WITH, SAY, HARRIS COUNTY, SINCE THAT'S THE LARGEST, UH, MUNICIPALITY THAT'S, THAT'S CLOSEST TO US. 
          UH, AND WITHOUT RECREATING THE WHEEL NUMBER, NUMBER TWO. 
          AND THEN NUMBER THREE WAS, UM, IS THERE A WAY TO GET MORE INFORMATION, UH, THROUGH HARRIS COUNTY SINCE, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF STUFF DOES ROLL UP, BUT SOMETIMES THAT INFORMATION DOESN'T ROLL DOWN. 
          THAT MAY BE SOMETHING THAT IT'S BEYOND THE SCOPE OF WHAT WE CAN DO HERE, BUT JUST PLANT THE SEED THERE. 
          I THINK THOSE ARE THE THREE ITEMS THAT COME TO MIND. 
          UM, CHIEF, YOU WERE ABOUT TO SAY SOMETHING. 
          I WANNA GIVE YOU THE OPPORTUNITY, 'CAUSE I THINK I KNOW WHERE YOU'RE GOING. 
          WELL, JUST BASICALLY ON THAT. 
          SO I INVITED A GUEST TONIGHT, UH, LIEUTENANT STEVE DORIS. 
          HE IS OUR LIEUTENANT IN OUR OPERATIONS BUREAU WHO OVERSEES OUR MENTAL HEALTH OFFICERS. 
          AND, UH, HE'S BEEN IN ATTENDANCE AND WITH HARRIS COUNTIES. 
          SO SOME OF THE INFORMATION IS BEING TALKED ABOUT WITH HARRIS COUNTY DECALS AND SUCH, AND SOME OTHER PROGRAMS THAT HARRIS COUNTY HAS PRESENTED TO US. 
          UM, 
          [00:10:01]
I WOULD LIKE FOR HIM TO BE ABLE TO COME UP TO THE PODIUM AND BASICALLY EXPLAIN SOME OF THOSE PROGRAMS THAT ARE THERE THAT WE HAVE RESEARCHED, UH, TO GIVE YOU SOME SUGGESTIONS AND IDEAS THAT ARE WITH THAT. 
          OKAY. 
          LIEUTENANT DORIS? THIS ONE? NOPE. 
          THERE WE GO. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          UM, WELL, FIRST OFF, I JUST WANNA SAY THANKS FOR LETTING ME COME TALK TO Y'ALL A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHERE WE ARE WITH OUR MENTAL HEALTH PROGRAM AND SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE EXPLORING. 
          UM, AS EVERYBODY HERE KNOWS, THE MENTAL HEALTH, UH, CRISIS, UH, NOT JUST IN OUR COMMUNITY, BUT NOT JUST IN THIS COUNTY, BUT ACROSS THE COUNTRY, IS, IT'S LIKE A WILDFIRE RIGHT NOW. 
          UM, SO WE REALLY KIND OF STEPPED BACK AND LOOKED AT, OKAY, WHAT CAN WE DO TO BE INTENTIONAL ABOUT HOW WE DEAL WITH THE MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES IN OUR OWN COMMUNITY? AND, AND THROUGH THAT THOUGHT PROCESS, ONE OF THE THINGS WE WOUND UP DOING WAS, UH, VISITING WITH HARRIS COUNTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT, UM, WHICH WAS A, A, A VERY EYE-OPENING, UH, CONVERSATION TO SAY THE LEAST. 
          UH, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THE HARRIS COUNTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT DOES, UH, THAT WE ARE REALLY LOOKING AT, UH, TRYING TO COLLABORATE WITH THEM ON, IT'S A PROGRAM CALLED THE CORE PROGRAM. 
          AND BASICALLY WHAT THE CORE PROGRAM IS, IT'S A CORE, IS AN ACRONYM FOR THOSE THAT DON'T LIKE ACRONYMS. IT'S A, A CLINICIAN AND OFFICER REMOTE EVALUATION PROGRAM, IS WHAT THAT IS. 
          AND ESSENTIALLY WHAT THE PROGRAM DOES IS IT PUTS TABLETS IN THE HANDS OF OFFICERS ON THE STREETS, AND YOU ASK, WELL, HOW DOES THAT HELP WITH THE MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES? WELL, WHAT THAT DOES IS THAT BASICALLY PUTS A CLINICIAN IN THE BACK POCKET OF EVERY, OR NOT EVERY, BUT OF THE OFFICERS ON THE STREET. 
          WHAT THAT IPAD DOES IS IT LINKS UP WITH A CLINICIAN THROUGH HARRIS HEALTH. 
          UM, AND THEN THAT CLINICIAN CAN GIVE AN EVALUATION OF THE CONSUMER ON THE SCENE, UH, RATHER THAN THE OFFICER TRYING TO DISCERN WHAT KIND OF A CRISIS IS THIS PERSON IN? WHAT KIND OF AN ILLNESS IS THIS PERSON SUFFERING FROM, AND WHAT'S THE APPROPRIATE COURSE OF ACTION THAT CLINICIAN CAN THEN, UH, OFFER SOME GUIDANCE AND SOME DIRECTION, UH, AS FAR AS WHAT WE NEED TO BE DOING FROM THERE. 
          UH, SO THAT, THAT'S ONE OF THE BIG THINGS THAT, UM, UH, WE'RE REALLY LOOKING AT DOING. 
          AGAIN, WE'RE TRYING TO BE MORE INTENTIONAL ABOUT WHAT WE'RE DOING. 
          THE, THE OTHER, UH, BEAUTY ABOUT THE CORE PROGRAM IS, UH, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, ONE OF OUR PROBLEMS WHEN WE'RE DEALING WITH MENTAL ISSUE, MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES ON THE STREET IS WE, WE DEAL WITH IT ON THE FRONT END, BUT, BUT HOW DO WE GET TO A POINT TO WHERE WE'RE NOT COMING BACK A SECOND AND A THIRD AND A FOURTH TIME? UH, WELL, THE ONLY WAY TO DO THAT REALLY IS TO, IS TO HAVE SOME FOLLOW UP STUFF DONE. 
          WELL, OF COURSE, THAT TAKES TIME, AND THAT TAKES BODIES AND MANPOWER AND STUFF LIKE THAT. 
          SO WITH THIS CORE PROGRAM, UH, WHEN THE CONSUMER GETS INTRODUCED TO THE CLINICIAN, THEN THE CLINICIAN COMES BACK ON THE OTHER SIDE OF IT AND DOES A, DOES A FOLLOW UP. 
          UH, TYPICALLY NOW, OBVIOUSLY IF THE, IF THE, UH, CONSUMER IS TAKEN TO THE HOSPITAL AND ADMITTED IT'S HANDLED A DIFFERENT WAY, UM, BUT IF THE, THE CLINICIAN SAYS THEY DON'T NEED TO HAVE AN EDO DONE AN EMERGENCY DETENTION ORDER DONE, WELL, THEN THE, THE CLINICIANS WILL COME BACK AND FOLLOW UP WITH THAT CONSUMER, UM, TO, TO SEE IF THEY'RE ON THE RIGHT TRACK, NEED ANY HELP, RESOURCES AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. 
          UH, THE OTHER PIECE TO THAT TOO IS, UM, IT, IT GETS PEOPLE IN CONTACT WITH THE CONSUMER'S FAMILIES, RIGHT? ONE OF THE BIG ISSUES THAT WE, WE RUN ACROSS IS, UM, FAMILY MEMBERS JUST QUITE FRANKLY, ARE SOMETIMES AT THEIR WIT'S END. 
          THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO. 
          THEY'VE BEEN DEALING WITH THIS, THIS ISSUE FOR, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES IN SOME CASES 20, 30 YEARS. 
          AND SO THEY'RE JUST AT THEIR WIT'S ENDS AND THEY DON'T KNOW WHICH WAY TO TURN. 
          SO WHAT THE CORE PROGRAM ALSO HELPS US DO IS GET THEM IN CONTACT WITH PEOPLE THAT CAN GET THEM THE RESOURCES THAT THEY NEED TO GET THE HELP THAT THEY NEED MORE LONG TERM THAN SHORT TERM. 
          SO THAT'S, THAT'S ONE OF THE BIG PLUSES, OR SOME OF THE BIG PLUSES TO THE CORE PROGRAM AS A WHOLE. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, WE, WE'VE BEEN, UH, HAVING DISCUSSIONS BACK AND FORTH, BACK AND FORTH WITH THE, UH, THE CRISIS INTERVENTION TEAM, SERGEANT HARRIS COUNTY, UH, ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR PROGRAM. 
          UH, AS RECENTLY AS EARLIER THIS AFTERNOON, OF COURSE, YOU KNOW WHAT EVERYBODY'S MAIN QUESTION OFTENTIMES IS, WELL, WHAT'S IT COST US? RIGHT? WELL, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S THE, THE PRICE TAG TO THIS? UM, SO I, I'LL SAY IT IN TWO PARTS. 
          ON ONE PART, UH, WHICH IS THE, THE, THE GOOD NEWS, WHICH IS A LOT OF THIS STUFF IS PAID FOR THROUGH GRANTS VIA HARRIS HEALTH. 
          UM, AND SO IN MY CONVERSATION WITH THE, THE SERGEANT AT HARRIS COUNTY TODAY, WE FEEL PRETTY CONFIDENT THAT WE'LL BE ABLE TO GET SOME LAPTOPS IN THE HANDS OF OUR OFFICERS, UH, AT NO COST TO THE CITY. 
          UH, IT'LL BE DONE THROUGH A GRANT VIA HARRIS HEALTH, UH, THROUGH AN MOU WITH, WITH THE COUNTY. 
          NOW, HERE'S THE SECOND PART OF THAT. 
          WE ALL UNDERSTAND WHAT, HOW GRANTS WORK RIGHT HERE TODAY, GONE TOMORROW, SOMETIMES, UH, SO IN THE EVENT THAT THE GRANT GOES AWAY, YOU SAY, WELL, WHAT'S THE COST THAT THE PRICE TAG TO PUT IN THAT LAPSE OR THAT IPAD AND THAT CLINICIAN IN THE BACK POCKET OF AN OFFICER? UH, IT'S A 
          [00:15:01]
ROUND, GIVE OR TAKE $9,000, UH, UH, UH, AN IPAD, UH, BECAUSE YOU'RE BASICALLY HAVING TO PAY FOR THE CLINICIANS RIGHT THERE. 
          UH, SO THERE, THERE'S A COST TO THERE, THERE'S A COST THERE. 
          UM, AGAIN, IN, IN MY CONVERSATIONS WITH THE, UH, THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT, UH, SERGEANT TODAY, UH, WE FEEL PRETTY CONFIDENT THAT WE'LL BE ABLE TO DO THAT. 
          UM, SO THEN THE NEXT QUESTION IS, WELL, HOW MANY LAPTOPS ARE IPADS? ARE WE, WE TALKING ABOUT, ARE WE TALKING ABOUT PUTTING ONE IN THE HANDS OF EVERY OFFICER ON THE STREET? UH, REALISTICALLY ABOUT 20 IPADS? UM, WHAT THAT WILL ALLOW ME TO DO WILL, I'LL BE ABLE TO PUT ONE IN THE HANDS OF EACH OF MY, UH, CIT MEMBERS, UM, AND THEY'LL BE SPREAD ACROSS THE DIFFERENT SHIFTS. 
          IT'LL ALSO GIVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPREAD THOSE ACROSS SOME OF THE PATROL SHIFTS AND PUT 'EM IN THE HANDS OF SOME OF OUR FTIS, OUR FIELD TRAINING INSTRUCTORS. 
          AND THE REASON WHY THAT IS SO IMPORTANT, AGAIN, GOING BACK TO THAT, BEING INTENTIONAL ABOUT HOW WE ADDRESS THE MENTAL HEALTH ISSUE, IS THAT GETS OUR, OUR ROOKIES, OUR NEW OFFICER ON THE STREET, THEY GET INTRODUCED TO THAT ON THE VERY FRONT END OF IT. 
          AND SO THEN THAT WILL PAY US DIVIDENDS DOWN THE ROAD. 
          AND SO THAT, THAT'S KIND OF HOW THE CORE PROGRAM WORKS. 
          THAT'S WHAT THAT'S ALL ABOUT. 
          AND RIGHT NOW, THAT'S, UH, CHIEF HOLDEN IS, THAT'S THE, THE BIG THING THAT WE'RE TRYING TO GET PUSHED, UH, IS TO GET THAT PROGRAM UP AND RUNNING. 
          UM, OF COURSE WITH THAT THERE COMES, YOU KNOW, SOME LOGISTICAL STUFF THAT WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT AS WELL. 
          BUT, BUT WE'RE VERY OPTIMIST, OPTIMISTIC THAT WE'LL BE ABLE TO GET IT UP AND RUNNING. 
          YES, MA'AM. 
          OKAY. 
          IS THE $9,000 IF WE DON'T GET THE GRANTS? YES, MA'AM. 
          YES, MA'AM. 
          AND THAT'S, AND THAT'S A AND IF IS A GRANT, WE DON'T HAVE TO PUT OUT THE 9,000, CORRECT. 
          CORRECT. 
          IF COULD BE, YOU KNOW, IF WE ENTER INTO AN MOU WITH, WITH THE COUNTY AND, AND THEY PAY FOR IT THROUGH THE GRANT, THROUGH HARRIS HEALTH, THEN IT ESSENTIALLY WON'T COST US ANYTHING. 
          UM, IF THAT DOES NOT WORK, IF FOR SOME REASON WE CAN'T DO THAT, IF WE WERE JUST TO SAY, THIS IS WHAT IT WOULD COST FOR US TO FUND THIS OURSELVES, IT WOULD BE ABOUT $9,000 A PERSON. 
          AND AGAIN, THAT'S A, THAT'S A ROUGH BALLPARK FIGURE. 
          ONE OTHER QUESTION, UM, IF THE PERSON ISN'T REGISTERED WITH HARRIS COUNTY HEALTH, AND WHAT'S, THEY SAY THEY'RE GOING TO A PRIVATE, UH, PSYCHIATRIST, PSYCHOLOGIST, WOULD THEY BE IN THE SYSTEM? THEY MAY NOT BE IN HARRIS COUNTY SYSTEM, BUT AGAIN, THE, THE WHOLE CONCEPT OF THE CONSUMER INTERACTING WITH A CLINICIAN VIA AN IPAD'S A VOLUNTARY THING. 
          SO ONCE THEY, THEY START INTO THAT INTERACTION WITH THE CLINICIAN, THEY WILL THEN GET THEM INTO THE SYSTEM. 
          AND SO, YOU KNOW, WE MAY DEAL WITH A PERSON TODAY, HARRIS COUNTY MAY DEAL WITH 'EM TOMORROW OR NEXT WEEK, OR VICE VERSA. 
          AS LONG AS SOMEBODY HAS DEALT WITH 'EM IN SOME MANNER WHERE THEY GET INTRODUCED TO A CLINICIAN AND GET PUT INTO THE SYSTEM, WE WILL KNOW THAT. 
          UM, NOW WE'RE ALSO WORKING ON SOME OTHER THINGS ON OUR END AS FAR AS, UM, BEING ABLE TO TRACK THESE CASES AND, AND IDENTIFY THESE ADDRESSES. 
          OKAY. 
          AND INDIVIDUALS, AGAIN, BEFORE OFFICERS GET THERE. 
          SO WE CAN HAVE MITIGATION FACTORS IN PLACE, UH, ON THE FRONT. 
          IS THAT, IS THAT BY WAY OF GETTING MORE OF THE APPROPRIATE INFORMATION FROM, FROM THE HARRIS COUNTY SYSTEM DOWN TO THE OFFICER'S ONBOARD COMPUTER AS THEY'RE COMING ON SCENE? AND AM I, AM I THINKING TOO DEEP RIGHT THERE, OR? YEAH, I THINK YOU'RE, YOU'RE THINKING A LITTLE BIT, NOT NECESSARILY TOO DEEP, BUT JUST A, A OKAY. 
          A DIFFERENT ANGLE. 
          SO THE INFORMATION THAT, UH, IS SHARED WITH THE CLINICIAN, IT'S, IT'S HIPAA PROTECTED, RIGHT? AND SO YOU SAY, WELL, HOW DOES THAT WORK? IF IT'S HIPAA PROTECTED AND THEY'RE ON A SCENE AND THEY'RE ON AN IPAD, GENERALLY SPEAKING, SO THE IPADS ARE ISSUED TO AN OFFICER, RIGHT? ONE'S ISSUED TO ME. 
          THE CLINICIAN IS GONNA SPEAK TO THE PERSON THAT'S, THAT'S, UH, THE IPAD'S ASSIGNED TO, UH, THAT'S, THAT'S A LITTLE BIT OF HOW THEY MAINTAIN THAT, THAT PATIENT CONFI, UH, PATIENT CLIENT CONFIDENTIALITY. 
          UM, AND SO THERE'S A, THERE'S A LIMIT THERE. 
          NOW, THE FLOW OF INFORMATION IS REALLY GONNA COME FROM OUR REPORTING SIDE, RIGHT. 
          AND, AND THAT HAS TO DO WITH OUR, OUR CIT OFFICERS AND OUR OFFICERS ON THE SCENE AND HOW WE ADDRESS THOSE ISSUES IN HOUSE MM-HMM . 
          UM, AND SO IN THOSE CASES, THERE'LL BE A REPORT GENERATED, OBVIOUSLY. 
          UM, THERE WILL BE WHAT WE CALL A STREET CHECK GENERATED, UH, WHICH ALLOWS US TO, YOU KNOW, LIST THE PERSON, LIST AN ADDRESS, AND THEN WE CAN PUT THE DETAILS OF, OF, OF THE ENCOUNTER, UH, IN THAT. 
          AND THAT'S HOW THAT FLOW OF INFORMATION MAKES IT FROM THE CALL TODAY TO THE CALL NEXT WEEK. 
          OKAY. 
          HOW LONG HAS HARRIS COUNTY BEEN BEEN UTILIZING THIS SYSTEM? I THINK THEY'VE STARTED THE CORE PROGRAM, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, LIKE IN 2012. 
          BUT THEY'VE BEEN COLLABORATING WITH HARRIS HEALTH SINCE LIKE 91. 
          OKAY. 
          YEAH. 
          SO, SO IT'S GOT A, IT'S GOT A GOOD LONGEVITY. 
          YES. 
          YES. 
          THEY, HARRIS COUNTY RIGHT NOW HAS A HUNDRED, I THINK IT'S A HUNDRED, UH, IPADS IN THE HANDS OF DEPUTIES, UM, ACROSS THE COUNTY. 
          UH, THAT'S INCLUDING THEIR FULL-TIME CIT OFFICERS, THEIR FIELD TRAINING INSTRUCTORS, AND JUST SOME REGULAR, FOR LACK OF BETTER TERMS, REGULAR PATROL OFFICERS. 
          ARE THERE ANY OTHER MUNICIPALITIES THAT ARE WORKING WITH, WITH HARRIS COUNTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT IN THE SAME CAPACITY THAT WE ARE PROPOSING 
          [00:20:01]
TO DO THIS? YES. 
          UH, WELL, I SAY MUNICIPALITIES, PRECINCT THREE, PRECINCT TWO, PRECINCT ONE, SEVERAL CONST DEPARTMENTS WERE ON BOARD WITH 'EM. 
          UH, NOW, JUST AS RECENTLY AS LAST WEEK, THEY GOT THOSE UP AND RUNNING. 
          AND I WAS IN, IN CONVERSATIONS TODAY WITH THE SERGEANT FROM HARRIS COUNTY. 
          HE TOLD ME ONE OF THE CONSTABLE'S DEPARTMENTS, I CAN'T REMEMBER WHICH ONE IT WAS. 
          UH, THEY, THEY USED THEIR TABLET 42 TIMES OVER THE PAST WEEK OR SO. 
          UH, THAT'S JUST HOW MANY ENCOUNTERS THEY'VE HAD. 
          UM, NOW I CAN TELL YOU AGAIN, JUST FROM STATISTICAL INFORMATION THAT THEY SHARED WITH US, THEIR, I THINK IT WAS THEIR FIRST YEAR OF, UH, DEPLOYING THIS PROGRAM. 
          THEY SHOWED THEY HAD A 42% REDUCTION AND PEOPLE THAT THEY TRANSPORT TO THE HOSPITAL FOR EMERGENCY DETENTION ORDERS, SIMPLY BECAUSE THEY WERE ABLE TO HAVE A CLINICIAN TALK TO 'EM ON THE FRONT END, MAKE SOME ASSESSMENTS AND MAKE SOME DETERMINATIONS ON WHETHER THAT WAS BEST FORM OR NOT. 
          OKAY. 
          MR. HAN, MR. HANSINGER HAD A QUESTION. 
          YEAH. 
          YEAH, I'VE GOT A COUPLE. 
          SO, UM, SPECIALIZED TRAINING FOR THE OFFICERS, UH, IS THAT SOMETHING THEY DO, DO THEY GET AN ACCREDITATION? WELL, THERE, SO THERE'S TWO TYPES OF SPECIFIC TRAINING REALLY, UH, FOR MENTAL HEALTH, UH, UH, ISSUES. 
          ONE OF 'EM IS WHAT'S CALLED THE CIT, CRISIS INTERVENTION TRAINING, WHICH ALL OFFICERS GO THROUGH THAT MM-HMM . 
          UM, AND THEN THERE'S THE MENTAL HEALTH POLICE OFFICER CERTIFICATION, UM, WHICH IS, IT'S, IT'S A, A TCO, THE STATE GOVERNING BODY. 
          IT'S A TCO UH, RECOGNIZED COURSE NOW. 
          SO WE HAVE SE A LOT OF OUR OFFICERS, OR MOST OF OUR OFFICERS HAVE BEEN THROUGH AT LEAST THE CIT TRAINING, BUT LIKE WITH ANY TRAINING, UM, OVER THE YEARS, THE C-I-C-I-T TRAINING HAS REALLY KIND OF MORPHED. 
          AND SO FROM ALL THE INDIVIDUALS THAT I'VE TALKED TO, ALL THE, YOU KNOW, ACROSS THE INDUSTRY, THEY'RE, THEY'RE SAYING NOW THAT THE CIT TRAINING IS AS GOOD, IF NOT BETTER IN SOME CASES, THAN THE MENTAL HEALTH POLICE OFFICER TRAINING. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, WILL THE STATE WILL TCO EVENTUALLY MERGE THOSE TWO AND MAKE 'EM ONE THING? YOU KNOW, THAT'S, THAT'S WHO'S TO SAY. 
          BUT, BUT YES, THERE IS SOME SPECIALIZED TRAINING THERE FOR THE OFFICERS. 
          IS THAT REQUIRED BY THE OFFICERS IF THEY WERE GOING TO PARTICIPATE IN THIS PROGRAM? SO THE, THE, TO BE A-A-A-C-I-T OFFICER MM-HMM . 
          YES. 
          THEY'LL HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE, THE MENTAL HEALTH POLICE OFFICER TRAINING. 
          NOW, AGAIN, ALL OF OUR OFFICERS GO THROUGH THE, THE CRISIS INTERVENTION TRAINING. 
          SO THE TRAINING ITSELF DOES NOT, UH, PRECLUDE SOMEBODY FROM HAVING A TABLET IN THEIR HAND, UH, UH, UH, OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. 
          THERE, THERE'S NO SPECIFIC, UM, MENTAL HEALTH TRAINING FOR THAT. 
          THERE IS, HOWEVER, A, UH, LIKE A FOUR HOUR BLOCK OF TRAINING ON HOW TO UTILIZE THE, THE IPAD AND SOME OF THE, UM, UH, SECURITY CONCERNS TO IT, PRIVACY CONCERNS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          SO THERE IS SOME TRAINING ON THAT PIECE OF IT. 
          BUT AS FAR AS THE MENTAL HEALTH PIECE OF IT, YOU DON'T HAVE TO HAVE SOME KIND OF SPECIAL CERTIFICATE OR ACCREDITATION OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT TO BE ABLE TO TAKE AN I, UH, AN IPAD OUT TO A SCENE AND, AND PUT IT IN FRONT OF A, A CONSUMER AND HAVE 'EM TALK TO A CLINICIAN. 
          SO YOU MENTIONED A $9,000 PER COST PER UNIT BASED ON NO GRANT MONEY AVAILABLE. 
          IS THAT PER YEAR, PER MONTH? WHAT, WHAT'S THE RHYTHM OF THAT? I THINK THAT'S PER YEAR. 
          OKAY. 
          NOW AGAIN, DON DON'T, THAT WOULD MAKE SENSE. 
          YEAH, YEAH. 
          DON'T, DON'T, DOES THAT INCLUDE THE TRAINING? DON'T HOLD ME TO THAT, BUT THAT'S, THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING. 
          DOES THAT INCLUDE THE TRAINING OR, YES. 
          YES. 
          OKAY. 
          YEAH. 
          AND AGAIN, SO THE, THE HARRIS COUNTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT, THEY, UM, THEY HAVE A VERY ROBUST PROGRAM. 
          AND SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THE SERGEANT HAS, UH, BASICALLY AGREED WITH US TO DO IS IF ONCE WE GET THIS UP AND RUNNING, THEY ARE WILLING TO COME TO US AND, AND SPEND SOME TIME WITH US AND TRAINING OUR FOLKS AS MANY AS WE NEED TO GET TRAINED. 
          SO, AND YOU ENVISION 20 UNITS WOULD BE ENOUGH TO COVER ALL THE SHIFTS? UH, WELL, IDEALLY I'D LIKE TO HAVE ENOUGH TO PUT ONE IN THE HAND OF EVERY OFFICER. 
          UM, BUT THE REALITY OF IT IS THE MORE YOU ASK FOR RIGHT. 
          THE MORE SCRUTINY IT COMES UNDER, AND THEN IT START, STARTS CAUSING PEOPLE TO BALK A LITTLE BIT. 
          SO WE'RE, WE'RE LOOKING AT 20 RIGHT NOW. 
          WE FEEL THAT'S, THAT'S A, A, A RELATIVELY COMFORTABLE NUMBER FOR EVERYBODY TO DIGEST MM-HMM . 
          AND IF THEN WE DOWN THE ROAD, WE DECIDE WE NEED TO GET SOME MORE, THEN WE'LL REVISIT IT AT THAT POINT AND TRY TO GET MORE TO PUT IN, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY LIKE ANYTHING NEW THAT YOU START, YOU WANNA, YOU WANNA SEE THE DIVIDENDS, AND SO YEAH. 
          I WANNA RETURN. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          YEAH. 
          YOU SAID THERE WERE OTHER PROGRAMS THAT YOU'D ALSO LOOKED AT BESIDES CORE? YEAH, THEY HAVE A, WELL, THE SHERIFF, AGAIN, THE HARRIS COUNTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT HAS A, A VERY BROAD, UM, BEHAVIORAL SERVICES, UH, UNIT. 
          AND SO THEY, THEY ADDRESS THINGS LIKE AUTISM, UM, AND SOME SENIOR CITIZEN, UM, UH, DEMENTIA AND STUFF LIKE THAT. 
          UH, I THINK OPERATION GUARDIAN IS THE ONE FOR AUTISM. 
          AND YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT STICKERS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          UH, DECALS, UM, OPERATION GUARDIAN IS, I THINK THE, THE, THE ONE THAT'S MOST RECOGNIZABLE. 
          AND, UH, YOU CAN GOOGLE THAT, LOOK IT UP ON YOUR PHONES. 
          YOU CAN SEE THEIR EMBLEMS. AND, AND, UH, THAT'S A PROGRAM WHERE THEY DO JUST, WHAT I THINK Y'ALL ARE, ARE, ARE ALLUDING TO IS THEY IDENTIFY HOUSES OR CARS WHERE 
          [00:25:01]
PEOPLE WITH AUTISM MAY RESIDE OR DRIVE, AND THEY HAVE THESE STICKERS AND THEY STAND OUT. 
          YOU, YOU CAN'T MISTAKE 'EM FOR ANYTHING ELSE THAT THEY PUT ON THE, ON THE FRONT DOOR OR, OR ON THE CARS. 
          IT'S A PROJECT, PROJECT, GUARDIAN PROJECT. 
          THAT'S THE OPERATION GUARDIAN PROJECT GUARDIAN. 
          PROJECT GUARDIAN. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND IS THERE A PRICE ON HOW TO GET THAT STARTED? THAT I DO NOT KNOW THAT. 
          I DO NOT KNOW THAT, BUT I CAN CERTAINLY FIND THAT OUT FOR YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          BEFORE WE GO, BEFORE WE GO ON, BEFORE WE GO ON, WE NEED TO APPROVE, UM, A FROM BUSINESS ITEM. 
          WE NEED TO PROVE, UH, LETTER A WHERE WE DISCUSSED AND CONSIDER RECOMMENDATIONS REGARDING THE MENTAL ILLNESS, TRANSPARENCY AND ACCOUNTABILITY, POSITIVE ENGAGEMENT, AND OUR TRAINING AND DEVELOPMENT TO BE PRESENTED TO THE, UH, TO THE CITY COUNCIL. 
          WE DID THAT, BUT WE WENT 
          [b.  Discuss and consider the presentation of the Baytown Police Advisory Committee's quarterly report to the City Council.]
RIGHT INTO DISCUSSION. 
          WE WENT RIGHT INTO DISCUSSION AND CONSIDERED THE PRESENTATION OF THE BAYTOWN POLICE ADVISORY COMMITTEE QUARTERLY REPORT TO CITY COUNTY. 
          THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT RIGHT NOW. 
          BUT WE DIDN'T APPROVE, WE DIDN'T MAKE A MOTION FOR A, SO WE NEED TO DO THAT. 
          SO Y'ALL UNDERSTAND WHAT I'M SAYING? I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE ACCEPT. 
          OKAY. 
          A MOTION MADE BY, UH, PASTOR B, UH, PASTOR B  , SECOND BY DR. 
          STAN. 
          ALL IN FAVOR THE CASE BY SAYING AYE. 
          AYE. 
          AYE. 
          ALL OPPOSED. 
          OKAY. 
          SO NOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, AM I DOING THIS RIGHT, KAREN? NO, YOU DON'T VOTE UNTIL DISCUSSION IS OVER. 
          THAT'S FINE. 
          WE CAN MAKE THE, SO THE REPORT WILL CONTAIN THE RECOMMENDATIONS AND YOU'RE HEARING SOME POSSIBLE, UM, THINGS THAT, THAT ARE OUT THERE THAT YOU ALL CAN DECIDE THAT IF YOU WANNA MAKE ANY RECOMMENDATIONS TO COUNSEL SO THAT WE CAN INCLUDE THAT IN YOUR REPORT. 
          OKAY. 
          SO WE'RE STILL HAVING THE DISCUSSION? YES. 
          OKAY. 
          COMMITTEE, JUST, YOU KNOW, I WAS LISTENING TO HOW YOU STARTED OUT, UH, PASTOR MONTGOMERY. 
          SO A LOT OF THESE THINGS, AS PD TALKS TO YOU ABOUT THINGS THAT THEY'RE DOING THAT YOU LIKE, BE IT THE IPADS, BE IT THE STICKERS. 
          AND SO AS YOU REPORT TO COUNCIL, YOU CAN CERTAINLY RECOMMEND IN THE DISCUSSIONS OF THE COMMITTEE MEETING, WE'VE HEARD FROM BPD, THEY'RE DOING SOME WORK HAVING TO DO WITH IPADS THAT THEY'RE GONNA BE COMING FORWARD TO YOU, IF NOT GRANT FUNDED WITH OTHER FUNDED. 
          WE JUST ASK AS A COMMITTEE THAT YOU WOULD SUPPORT THAT IN THAT REGARD. 
          YOU WON'T NECESSARILY NEED A NUMBER. 
          IT'S OKAY THAT, YOU KNOW, 9,000, WHETHER THAT'S FOR THE, THE PAD AND THE ANNUAL TRAINING AND, AND THE WHATEVER IT IS. 
          AND IF YOU HAVE COSTS, THAT'S FINE. 
          BUT I THINK AS YOU OPERATE AS A COMMITTEE, KNOWING THE WORK THAT THEY'RE DOING, THAT'S GONNA BE COMING FORWARD, YOU'RE JUST ASKING COUNSEL TO SUPPORT THAT IS MY RECOMMENDATION. 
          COULD, COULD, COULD THE PD PROVIDE PASTOR MONTGOMERY AND I JUST THAT SYNOPSIS FOR OUR, OUR PRESENTATION TO COUNSEL. 
          JUST THAT, THAT QUICK SNAPSHOT THAT, YOU KNOW, IF WHAT'S COMING, WHAT'S COMING AND WHAT MAY BE SO THAT WE CAN MAKE THAT RECOMMENDATION. 
          SIR, DIDN'T WANNA STEP OUTTA LINE, BUT YEAH, THAT'S FINE. 
          THE OTHER THING THAT'S HELPFUL THAT YOU MENTIONED, THAT YOU MENTIONED EARLIER, PASTOR MONTGOMERY, IS COUNCIL DOES LIKE TO KNOW THAT OTHER CITIES OR COUNTIES ARE DOING THINGS AS, YOU'RE NOT THE ONLY ONE OUT THERE DOING THAT. 
          SO YOU TALKED ABOUT PRECINCTS THAT DID THAT, THAT'S VERY USEFUL INFORMATION WHERE WE KNOW OTHER PRECINCT CITIES. 
          THAT'S GOOD INFORMATION TO HAVE IN THERE. 
          YEAH. 
          IS IT IN THE BAYTOWN POLICE DEPARTMENT BUDGET FOR A 200 OR 180,000 LINE ITEM FOR IPADS AND TRAINING? I'LL LET CHIEF SPEAK ON THAT AT THIS MOMENT. 
          NO,  WE'RE RELYING ON THE GRANTS, AREN'T WE? ? I, I WOULD AND, AND I'M, THIS MAY BE ONE OF THOSE OPEN-ENDED QUESTIONS, BUT I KNOW HAVING BEEN A VERY, VERY JUNIOR GRANT WRITER IN THE PAST, I KNOW THAT SOMETIMES THE LIFE OF THESE, UH, GRANTS, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES THEY FLOURISH AND BECOME LARGER. 
          YOU KNOW, YOU'RE, YOU'RE SAYING SINCE 1991, HARRIS COUNTY AND HARRIS HEALTH HAVE, HAVE BEEN WORKING TOGETHER, UM, DO WE KNOW IF THERE'S A, A, A LONG-TERM ENDOWMENT THAT'S CURRENTLY FUNDING THIS? DO WE, DO WE HAVE ANY KIND OF MECHANISM THAT'S UNDERSTANDING THE, THE, UH, SUSTAINABILITY OF THE FINANCIAL ASPECT OF THIS PROGRAM AS OF RIGHT NOW? BECAUSE I THINK THAT WOULD BE IMPORTANT, UH, TO COUNCIL AS TO, I MEAN, IF WE'RE FIVE YEARS OUT, THEN WHERE ARE WE GONNA COME UP WITH, YOU KNOW, $200,000 A YEAR? SO, UH, DO WE HAVE ANY OF THAT INFORMATION THAT WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO SUBSTANTIATE TO SUPPORT, TO COUNSEL? NO, BUT I CAN CERTAINLY CHECK INTO THAT. 
          AGAIN, I DON'T KNOW, I'M NOT SURE EXACTLY WHAT GRANT, UH, IN PARTICULAR THAT THEY'RE USING TO DO THAT. 
          UH, BUT I CAN, I CAN CHECK INTO THAT TO SEE IF, IF THEY'VE GOT ANY, IF THEY'RE FORECASTING ANYTHING DOWN THE ROAD, WHAT'S THEIR CONTINGENCY PLAN, IF YOU WILL. 
          YEAH. 
          YOU KNOW, IN CASE THE BOTTOM FALLS OUT AND THE GRANT DRIES UP AND GOES AWAY. 
          UM, BUT I JUST, I DON'T KNOW, I CAN'T GIVE YOU AN ANSWER HERE TODAY ON THAT. 
          NO, AND THAT'S FINE. 
          I, IF, IF WE COULD KNOW THAT, I MEAN, IF WE'RE, IF, IF WE DECIDE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH 
          [00:30:01]
PROMOTING THIS AND, AND RECOMMENDING THIS TO CITY COUNCIL, I THINK THAT THAT WOULD BE INFORMATION THAT WOULD BE VITALLY IMPORTANT IN ORDER TO, TO, UH, MOVING FORWARD FOR THE COUNCIL. 
          CORRECT. 
          AND, AND FROM THAT, I, I PARTICIPATED IN THESE CONVERSATIONS WITH HARRIS COUNTY AS WELL WHEN THEY DID THE PRESENTATION. 
          SO I DO REMEMBER THEM TALKING ABOUT AN ENDOWMENT THAT GOES TO THEIRS. 
          ALSO, ONE OF THE LIMITATIONS ON THIS ONE, JUST THE ONLY LIMITATION THAT I SEE IS IT'S ONLY, UH, ALLOWABLE WITHIN HARRIS COUNTY. 
          SO CHAMBERS COUNTY, IT WOULD NOT, THEY JUST HAVE A STIPULATION THAT HAS TO BE USED IN, IN HARRIS COUNTY IN ORDER TO USE A CLINICIAN THERE. 
          SO, BUT WE ARE LOOKING AT DEFINITE, JUST TRYING TO GIVE A PRESENTATION HERE, THAT WE ARE DEFINITELY LOOKING AT OTHER AVENUES. 
          I KNOW THERE'S OTHER AGENCIES LOOKING AT CLINICIANS RIDING WITH POLICE OFFICERS, HIRING CLINICIANS, YOU KNOW, PAYING FOR THOSE SALARIES, THOSE BENEFITS. 
          UH, JUST A ROUNDABOUT, IF YOU KIND OF THINK ABOUT THIS, YOU BASICALLY GET PROBABLY SEVEN TO EIGHT IN COMPARISON TO ONE CLINICIAN YEAH. 
          WITH THE IPADS IN NUMBERS. 
          UH, SO IT, IT'S A VIABLE OPTION THAT WE CAN LOOK AT THAT'S ON THERE. 
          UM, AND ONE THAT WE'RE DEFINITELY INTERESTED IN. 
          AND, UH, SO A LOT OF THESE, THESE PROGRAMS THAT CAME THROUGH, SO, YOU KNOW, THEY CAME OUT OF VIRGINIA. 
          UH, SO IT WAS THE SAME THING WITH THE AUTISM PROGRAM. 
          HARRIS COUNTY JUST BASICALLY WENT RIGHT OFF OF THEIRS. 
          SO IT MAY NOT BE A MUNICIPALITY WITHIN THE STATE OF TEXAS, BUT IT HAS BEEN DONE IN OTHER STATES. 
          THERE'S TRACK RECORD AND IT'S, AND IT'S KIND OF PROGRESSED AND, AND YOU'RE ASKING THE STICKERS, THE SYMBOL FOR AUTISM IS THE PUZZLE PIECES, RIGHT? SO YOU'VE SEEN THOSE THAT ARE AROUND THERE. 
          SO THAT WOULD BE BASICALLY THE SAME THING AS WHAT WE WOULD FOLLOW THROUGH FOR AUTISM TYPE, UNLESS THERE'S SOME OTHER KIND OF THING WE COULD LOOK AT FOR DESIGNATION. 
          BUT, UM, AND THEN TO ADD WITH THAT, WE'RE, WHAT THEY ALSO HELP DO IS THEY IDENTIFY THE OFFICER WHO'S BEEN THROUGH THE TRAINING. 
          SO IF THERE'S ONE WHO IS A CORE OFFICER OR WHO IS AUTISM WITH PROJECT GUARDIAN, THEY ALSO PROVIDE WITH THEM LIKE A PEN. 
          THEY GO ON TO THEIR UNIFORM. 
          SOME OF 'EM DO DIFFERENT BADGES AND COLORS SO THAT, THAT WAY THE FAMILY KNOWS THIS IS SOMEONE WHO'S COMING TO THE SCENE THAT HAS THIS TYPE OF TRAINING. 
          SO THE PROJECT, AND IT BUILDS THAT RAPPORT WITH THE, SO THE PROJECT GUARDIAN IS, GOES IN LINE WITH THE DECALS BASICALLY, THAT WE, AND IT'S BASICALLY BASED UPON MORE OF CLIENTS WHO HAVE AUTISM AND FAMILIES WITH AUTISM CORE BASICALLY BREAKS OUT AND DOES MORE OF THE MENTAL HEALTH ASPECTS IF ANYBODY SUFFERS FROM ANY OTHER TYPE OF ILLNESS THAT WOULD IDENTIFY WITH THE CORE PROGRAM. 
          OKAY. 
          I THOUGHT I HEARD SOMEBODY GONNA ASK A QUESTION ON THIS SIDE. 
          I WAS JUST GONNA, YOU KNOW, BUDGETS GET REALLY TRICKY AND, UM, I'M TRYING TO JUST THINK THROUGH IT. 
          'CAUSE THE, THE DIRECTORS AND THE CHIEFS CAN REALLY BE PUT ON A, ON A HOTSPOT. 
          'CAUSE THEY'RE ALL COMPETING WITH THE 14 DEPARTMENTS. 
          SO I'M TRYING TO THINK THE BEST WAY CHIEFS, SO YOU DON'T GET PUT IN THE BIND OF A SPECIFIC NUMBER, 180,000. 
          'CAUSE EVEN IF YOU USED 20 TIMES NINE AND YOU SAY, UM, THEY WOULD UNDERSTAND IF YOU SAID, WE'D LIKE YOU TO SUPPORT, PDS GONNA COME FORWARD AND WE'D LIKE YOU TO SUPPORT. 
          AND YOU KEEP IT VAGUE. 
          IF YOU GO TO SPECIFY THAT YOU WANT THEM TO, TO FUND 180,000, THEY MIGHT LOOK AT THE CHIEF AND SAY, YEP, WE AGREE WITH THAT. 
          AND CHIEF SAYS, I DON'T HAVE THAT IN THERE AND SAY, WHAT ARE YOU GONNA GIVE UP? AND YOU'RE IN ONE OF THOSE KIND OF THINGS. 
          SO IT'S JUST A DELICATE THING, HOW TO HANDLE THAT. 
          WHAT, WHAT DO YOU THINK CHIEF? UH, YEAH, I MEAN THAT'S DEFINITELY HOW, HOW IT WILL GO IS IT, THEY'LL COME TO ME AND THEN SEE WHAT WITHIN OUR BUDGET THAT WE'LL HAVE TO, SO WHAT PROGRAMS ARE YOU WILLING TO LOOK AT? AND THAT'S COUNCIL AND SUCH. 
          AND SAME WITH THE COMMITTEE OF WHAT WE WOULD BE DOING WITHOUT, UM, THAT ARE IN THOSE PROGRAMS. BUT, YOU KNOW, ANYTHING THAT GOES INTO IT, IF IT'S THIS GRANT OR ANY OTHERS, YOU KNOW, WE WILL ALWAYS, UH, OUR DEPARTMENT'S BEEN SUCCESSFUL IN GETTING GRANTS. 
          IF IT'S NOT THIS ONE, WOULD IT BE SOME OTHER TYPE OF GRANT THAT WE MAY BE ABLE TO DO IN ORDER TO ACHIEVE THESE GOALS? SO THAT'S WHY IT'S GONNA BE IMPORTANT TO TELL 'EM RIGHT NOW WE'RE JUST PLANTING THE SEED. 
          BUT IT, IT IS ALSO, AND IT'LL COME DIRECTLY FROM ME TO Y'ALL AND TO COUNSEL THAT I, I'M IN AGREEMENT WITH YOU THAT THIS IS ONE OF OUR NUMBER ONE PRIORITIES IS MENTAL HEALTH. 
          OKAY. 
          YOU KNOW, WE'LL, WE'LL DO WHAT WE CAN WITHIN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT TO ACHIEVE THOSE GOALS AND BE ABLE TO, UH, MAKE THIS PRIORITY NUMBER ONE, YOU KNOW, VIABLE TO ALL THE CITIZENS OF BAYTOWN. 
          SO EVEN IF YOU CRAWL, WALK, RUN, YOU KNOW, SO YOU MAY NOT START WITH 20 OUT ON THE STREET. 
          MM-HMM . 
          YOU MAY START WITH FIVE 10, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE NUMBER IS, BUT WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO SAY IS, THIS IS 
          [00:35:01]
IMPORTANT. 
          IT'S NUMBER ONE, WE'RE GONNA GO AFTER SOME GRANTS. 
          IF WE CAN'T, WE'RE GONNA LOOK AT FUNDING ALTERNATIVES, BUT WE WANT TO CRAWL, CRAWL, WALK, RUN. 
          WE WANT TO GET THIS GOING. 
          AND WITH HIS SUPPORT, 'CAUSE HE'S GONNA SAY IT'S HIS PRIORITY AS WELL. 
          SO THIS IS JUST AN OBSERVATION. 
          IT SEEMS LIKE THE, THE STICKER IS THE MOST VISIBLE. 
          HOWEVER, WHAT LIEUTENANT DORIS AND, AND CHIEF HOLDEN IS BRINGING TO US, IT, IT SEEMS LIKE IT IS A, A A MORE, A LARGER ENCOMPASSING PROGRAM THAT IS NOT JUST FOCUSED ON ONE SEGMENT BUT IS GOING TO BE MORE DIVERSE AND HAVE I I PERCEIVE A GREATER IMPACT ON THE, THE, THE CITIZENS THAT THE, THE, THE BAYTOWN POLICE DEPARTMENT, UH, SERVES. 
          UM, AND WOULD PROBABLY BE MORE IMPACTFUL THAN, THAN FOCUSING ON A DATABASE REGISTRY, THINGS OF THAT NATURE. 
          BECAUSE THAT'S GOING TO AUTOMATICALLY CREATE THAT, THAT ARCHIVE OF INFORMATION. 
          SO THAT'S JUST AN OBSERVATION. 
          AND, UH, I, I, I AM, I LIKE IT. 
           AND, AND TO REPORT TO YOU WITH THE DECALS, UH, THE QUESTION WAS ASKED OF HARRIS COUNTY, WHAT, WHERE DO THEY APPLY THEIR DECALS? AND THEY DON'T SEE MUCH SUCCESS ON VEHICLES. 
          UH, BUT THEY DO ON THE RESIDENCE, ESPECIALLY AUTISM. 
          UH, THERE'S A LOT OF THEIR CLIENTS THAT DO THAT, THAT PLACE 'EM ON THE RESIDENCE. 
          SO YOU SEE IT AT THE DOOR. 
          BUT THEY SAID, REALLY, UH, A LOT OF PEOPLE DO NOT WANT TO PARTICIPATE WITH A STICKER ON THEIR VEHICLE. 
          'CAUSE THEY LEAVE IT TO THEM, YOU KNOW, IT'S THEIR CHOICE. 
          SO THEY LEAVE IT, THEY GIVE 'EM A CHOICE OF VEHICLE, THEY COULD LEAVE THEM A STICKER. 
          OKAY. 
          AND IF THEY WANTED TO PUT IT ON THEIR CAR, THAT'S THEIR CHOICE. 
          OKAY. 
          BUT IT, THEY DID NOT SEE A LOT OF FOLKS, YOU KNOW, APPLYING STICKERS TO VEHICLES AND SUCH LIKE THAT. 
          BUT THEY DO SAY THAT IT, THAT IT IS HELPFUL AT THE HOUSE. 
          AT THE HOUSE. 
          IT, IT'S REALLY BEEN A PRETTY GOOD PROGRAM FOR THEM BECAUSE IT, LIKE I SAID, IT, IT IDENTIFIES FOR THE OFFICER WHO'S COMING TO THE SCENE. 
          HE MAY NOT BE A SPECIALTY TRAINED, BUT ALL THEIR OFFICERS ARE ABLE TO RECOGNIZE AND GO, RIGHT, I SEE THIS, THERE'S AN AUTISTIC KID OR ADULT THAT'S IN THE HOUSE. 
          RIGHT. 
          LET ME BACK UP, YOU KNOW, IF I NEED TO CALL SOMEBODY FOR SOME ASSISTANCE, HOW DO I DEAL WITH THIS? UH, YOU KNOW, THOSE THINGS. 
          UM, AND A LOT OF THESE RESIDENTS THAT DO THAT, THEY ALSO HAVE THAT DATA THAT'S ALREADY PROVIDED TO HARRIS COUNTY THAT TELLS THEM WHAT ARE THE THINGS THAT TRIGGER THINGS LIKE THAT, THAT MAY UPSET THE PERSON. 
          SO THAT, THAT'S WHERE PROJECT GUARDIAN REALLY ASSIST IS THAT DATA, LIKE DR. 
          STANKY'S BEEN ASKING YOU WHAT COULD BE PUT INTO A COMPUTER SYSTEM TO ALERT POLICE AND DO ALL THAT. 
          THOSE THINGS ARE IN PLACE WHENEVER THEY GIVE THE STICKER AND THEY DO THOSE THINGS. 
          YEAH. 
          SO THOSE PEOPLE HAVE FILLED OUT THE INFORMATION THAT'S PROVIDED. 
          THAT GIVES US THAT EARLY WARNING. 
          OKAY. 
          CHIEF, WOULD THIS COMMITTEE, I KNOW CAC ACTUALLY WAS CREATING A STICKER, WOULD THEY CREATE A UNIQUE STICKER OR IS THERE A STANDARD ONE THAT THE COUNTY USES THAT THEY WOULD USE THE SAME AS OTHER PEOPLE? WELL, I WOULD TELL YOU THAT I WOULD NOT WANT TO TRANSITION TO ANYTHING DIFFERENT THAN WHAT THE NATIONAL AUTISM MARTY IS. 
          YEP. 
          THERE'S NO NEED TO, UH, CONFUSE PEOPLE OF WHY IS BAYTOWN HAVE A DIFFERENT, I I WOULD JUST, THE NATIONAL STANDARD IS THIS, THE PUZZLE PIECES. 
          AND WE COULD PUT IT, YOU KNOW, HARRIS COUNTY HAS IT ON THEIR PATCH. 
          SO THEIR PATCH IS A DIFFERENT DESIGN, BUT IT, THE PUZZLE PIECES ON THE BACK SIDE OF IT. 
          AND IT SAYS, SO WE COULD DO THE SAME THING WITH BAYTOWN AND HAVE THE AUTISM PIECES THAT ARE THERE. 
          BUT YES, I DON'T WANT TO TRANSITION TO SOMETHING JUST TOTALLY NEW. 
          I, I WANT PEOPLE TO RECOGNIZE IT'S A NATIONAL SYMBOL. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT MAKES SENSE. 
          THAT HELPS ALL, YEAH, THAT MAKES SENSE. 
          AND THAT WOULD HELP US NOT HAVE TO DESIGN SOMETHING. 
          CORRECT. 
          I MEAN, WE WOULD JUST FIND A PATCH AND PUT SOME COLOR BEHIND IT. 
          THAT WOULD BE THE ONE THING. 
          AND DO THE PATCHES, BUT, OR JUST BE LIKE OUR BADGES WITH JUST THE DECAL. 
          RIGHT. 
          DESIGN ON IT. 
          OKAY. 
          THERE YOU GO. 
          DR. MORENO. 
          MM-HMM . 
          WHAT ABOUT, UM, ANYONE WHO HAS A DIFFERENT TYPE OF MENTAL ILLNESS BESIDES AUTISM? I MEAN, WE SEE A BIPOLAR DISEASE OR SCHIZOPHRENIA. 
          SCHIZOPHRENIA OR, YOU KNOW, ANY OF THAT. 
          DEPRESSION. 
          YEAH, SUICIDAL IDEATION. 
          RIGHT. 
          I MEAN, THERE'S SO MANY OTHER MENTAL HEALTH ILLNESSES OUT THERE THAT, BESIDES AUTISM. 
          SO I, I WELL, I RESPECT THAT FOR SURE. 
          WHAT ABOUT THAT PIECE OF IT? BECAUSE WE OFTENTIMES SEE THAT UNLESS YOU GO AUTISTIC, AUTISTIC RESIDENTS, FOR THE MOST PART, YOU KNOW, THE PARENTS ARE VERY INVOLVED FOR THE MOST PART. 
          I MEAN, GENERALIZING. 
          UM, AND OFTENTIMES THEY, YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE, THEY'RE VERY, THEY'RE ADVOCATES. 
          THEY HAVE 'EM ON THEIR, THEIR, THE MAGNETS ON THE BACK OF THEIR CARS. 
          YOU KNOW, THEY'RE ALREADY, UM, MAKING 
          [00:40:01]
EVERYONE AWARE FOR THOSE REASONS. 
          BUT I'M, I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE OTHER MENTAL HEALTH ILLNESSES. 
          SO THAT'S WHY THANK YOU. 
          I THINK WE HAD ORIGINALLY WERE TALKING ABOUT HAVING A, UM, A FORM, UH, AVAILABLE IN DOCTOR'S OFFICES THAT THEY COULD BRING TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT COMPLETED. 
          AND THAT'S WHY WE WANTED A DATABASE OF OTHER PEOPLE WITH OTHER KINDS OF MENTAL ILLNESS THAN JUST AUTISM AND NOT THOSE ALREADY REPORTED WITH, UM, POLICE ISSUES. 
          OKAY. 
          LET'S SAY YOU'RE JUST MILDLY DEPRESSED OR, OR YOU KNOW, YOU'VE JUST BEEN DI DIAGNOSED WITH SCHIZOPHRENIA, UM, AND YOU AREN'T INVOLVED WITH A POLICE ACT POLICE ACTION YET. 
          SO YOU WOULDN'T BE IN THE SYSTEM THAT HARRIS COUNTY HAS. 
          SO THAT'S WHY I SAID, YOU KNOW, YOU'VE GOT ALL THESE PRIVATE PSYCHIATRISTS, PSYCHOLOGISTS THAT WE COULD POSSIBLY CONTACT IN BAYTOWN. 
          AND THAT'S WHY I WANTED A DATABASE TO HAVE SUCH INFORMATION ENTERED. 
          NOT THAT THEY ARE GONNA BE VIOLENT, BUT THAT, THAT IT NEEDS TO BE RECOGNIZED THAT THEY'RE THERE AND THAT THEY MIGHT HAVE A MENTAL ILLNESS PROBLEM. 
          SO YES, AUTISM IS ONE MENTAL ILLNESS, BUT THERE ARE PLENTY OTHERS. 
          AND I WANTED A DATABASE WITH ALL THE MENTAL ILLNESSES, NOT JUST THOSE THAT HAVE PREVIOUSLY HAD POLICE ACTION IN THE HARRIS COUNTY DATABASE, BUT I THINK THAT IF YOU DO THE CORE, IT'LL GENERATE, 'CAUSE I, I, I FEEL LIKE, I FEEL LIKE PEOPLE WILL BE LESS LIKELY. 
          I THINK IT'S A GOOD OPTION FOR SURE. 
          AT LEAST AN OP AN OPTION TO, TO, TO GATHER THE INFORMATION. 
          YOU CAN'T GO WRONG WITH DATA, BUT IN TERMS OF THE OTHER PARTS, PARTS OF IT WITH CORE, IT SHOULD WITH AS THEY START WORKING WITH PEOPLE AND HARRIS HEALTH SHOULD GIVE YOU SOME INFORMATION, MAY NOT BE ABLE TO GIVE YOU ALL, BECAUSE IT BECOMES A HIPAA VIOLATION, I BELIEVE. 
          UM, IT, I THINK IT'LL ALSO CONTRIBUTE TO IT AS WELL. 
          BUT GOING BACK TO THE DECAL THOUGH, BECAUSE IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE DECAL, LIKE THAT'S WHAT I'M WONDERING IF WE SHOULD CREATE SOMETHING DIFFERENT FOR SOMEONE WHO WANTS, YOU KNOW, WHO, WHO A PARENT IS CONCERNED ABOUT THEIR BIPOLAR CHILD WHO COULD BE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF CRAZINESS GOING ON RIGHT NOW THAT WE HAVE TO BE VERY AWARE OF. 
          UM, AND SO I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S AN OPTION OUTSIDE. 
          I THINK THAT WOULD BE A QUESTION THAT, IS THERE A NATIONAL PROGRAM THAT'S ALREADY IN PLACE THAT'S GOT, YOU KNOW, YOU MENTIONED THE, THE PUZZLE PIECE INTO TAGGING ONTO WHAT, WHAT DR. 
          RENO JUST SAID IS THERE, IS THERE ALREADY A NATIONAL, UH, DECAL FOR MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES THAT, THAT WE COULD TAP INTO THAT COULD SUPPLEMENT THE, INTO THIS? NOT JUST LIKE, YOU KNOW WHAT SHE SAID SPECIFICALLY AUTISM, BUT THE BIGGER PICTURE. 
          YEAH. 
          THERE, THERE TO SAY IF THERE'S A NATIONAL FOR BIPOLAR AND SCHIZOPHRENIC, THERE'S NONE THAT I'VE SEEN. 
          'CAUSE THERE'S NOT A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO WANT A LABEL AND PUT A LABEL OUT THERE FOR THOSE TYPE OF ACTIONS. 
          UM, NOW IF THERE WAS ONE THAT THEY SAID THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, AND SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THAT, YOU KNOW, WE COULD COME UP WITH FOR SOME OF THE CLIENTS THAT WOULD LIKE THAT AT THEIR HOUSE OR, SO THAT WOULD JUST HAVE TO BE SOMETHING. 
          WE'D HAVE TO FIND OUT A NUMBER OF HOW MANY DO WE HAVE WHO WANT TO PARTICIPATE WITHIN THAT, AND DO WE WANT TO GO WITH THAT? SO, BUT ON THE BACKSIDE, YOU KNOW, I WANT TO REALLY MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS WE ALREADY HAVE IN PLACE IN OUR RMS SERVICE, LIKE I SAID BEFORE, DATA THAT CAN BE ENTERED THROUGH IN. 
          SO WE WILL COLLECT THOSE THAT WHO WANT TO COME UP AND VOLUNTARILY GIVE THAT INFORMATION TO US TO REPORT. 
          AND WE CAN DO THAT. 
          I MEAN, NOW IT'S NOT A BIG DEAL. 
          WE CAN ENTER THAT OR THAT OFFICER ON THAT NEXT CALL TOMORROW HAS THAT INFORMATION THAT WAS PROVIDED. 
          AND SO IF IT WAS THE DECAL OR NOT, AND EVEN IF WE USED THIS CORE SYSTEM, THE OFFICERS WHO GO TO THE CALL OF SERVICE WILL STILL BE REQUIRED TO ENTER THE INFORMATION INTO OUR SYSTEM. 
          SO IT, YES, THEY HAVE HARRIS HEALTH WHO'S TALKING, BUT WE STILL, ANYTIME WE GO TO ANY TYPE OF CALL, WE GATHER INFORMATION OF WHO WE TALK TO AND YOU KNOW, WHAT TYPE OF CALL IT WAS FOR A REPORT INFORMATION. 
          SO WE WOULD BE ABLE TO PROVIDE THAT INFORMATION INTO THE DATA SO THAT THE NEXT ONE IT WOULD GO IN. 
          BUT HARRIS HEALTH WOULD HAVE THEIR INFORMATION AND THEIR CLINICIAN AND THEY WOULD DO THE FOLLOW UP JUST LIKE LIEUTENANT DORSEY PROVIDED. 
          SO, SO YOU, YOU HAVE, UH, A CHECKBOX THAT WOULD ALLOW FOR YOU TO SAY, OKAY, THIS, THIS, THIS PERSON HAD A, A MENTAL HEALTH CONCERN. 
          MM-HMM . 
          OKAY. 
          YEAH. 
          WE, WE COULD DOCUMENT IN OUR REPORT SYSTEM UNDER A MENTAL HEALTH CALL. 
          LET'S JUST SAY THAT IF WE'RE DISPATCHED TO IT AND IT'S A REPORT AND IT'S A MENTAL HEALTH CALL, IF NOT, IF THERE'S A VOLUNTEER WHO COMES UP TO THE POLICE STATION OR PROVIDES A FORM, WE COULD ENTER THAT INTO ANOTHER SYSTEM THAT'S OUR STREET CHECK SYSTEM THAT ALSO PULLS UP SO IT'S AVAILABLE TO ALL THE OFFICERS IN THE FUTURE. 
          SO 
          [00:45:01]
IT WOULD BE NICE TO HAVE A FORM IN MENTAL HEALTH, UM, CARE FACILITIES AND IN THE DOCTOR'S HANDS THAT THEY CAN GIVE TO THEIR PATIENTS SAYING, COMPLETE THIS FORM. 
          AND THE DOCTOR SIGNS OFF ON IT AND SAY, BRING IT TO THE POLICE STATION. 
          AND THEN, BECAUSE THESE POSSIBLY ARE PEOPLE THAT WILL NEVER HAVE A POLICE ENCOUNTER, BUT IF, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE OUT THERE, YOU KNOW, SOMEBODY'S BIPOLAR ON, YOU KNOW, CERTAIN MEDICATIONS IF IT'S IN THE SYSTEM. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, TO WATCH, YOU KNOW, IF, IF THIS PERSON'S NAME COMES UP, IT'S, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE IT POP UP AND IT'S GONNA SAY, OH WELL THIS IS OUR FIRST CALL ON THIS PERSON. 
          BUT IF YOU DON'T KNOW, IF IT'S NOT ALREADY IN THE SYSTEM, HARRIS COUNTY HEALTH ISN'T GONNA KNOW ABOUT IT 'CAUSE THEY HAVEN'T HAD A CALL ON 'EM. 
          BUT IF THE PARENTS OR THE PERSON VOLUNTARILY GAVE THEIR INFORMATION TO BE PUT INTO A SYSTEM, IT COULD BE ADVANTAGEOUS. 
          'CAUSE THEN, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE DEALING WITH A MENTAL HEALTH ISSUE AND NOT JUST SOMEBODY THAT HAS PAST POLICE ISSUES. 
          I THINK VOLUNTARY REGISTRATION IS SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD LOOK AT DOING. 
          BUT, UH, TO YOUR POINT, I WOULD SAY THE ONLY DIFFICULTY THERE IS HAVING A DOCTOR SIGN OFF ON IT. 
          THERE'S A LIABILITY INVOLVED WHEN A DOCTOR SIGNS SOMETHING. 
          AND I'M SURE THEY'RE NOT GONNA WANT TO NECESSARILY DO THAT, BUT SELF-REPORTING THEMSELVES ENCOURAGING THE PATIENT, YOU KNOW, IF, IF THIS, UH, IF THIS IS A BENEFIT TO YOU, YOU SHOULD DO THIS AND EXPLAIN THE PROCESS. 
          UH, I THINK THAT WOULD BE A BENEFIT. 
          BUT I I HAVING A FORM THAT REQUIRES A DOCTOR'S SIGNATURE, I BET YOU'RE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO GET THAT DONE. 
          OKAY. 
          WELL THEN RESISTANCE, AS I SAY, JUST A FORM IN THE DOCTOR'S OFFICES, AND, AND AGAIN, IT GOES BACK TO THEIR VOLUNTARY, RIGHT, RIGHT. 
          BUT WE NEED TO, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY, AND FOR THEM TO TAKE THAT INFORMATION AND BRING IT AND PROVIDE IT TO US WITHOUT BEING A CALL OF SERVICE, WE WOULD HAVE TO RELY UPON THAT. 
          MM-HMM . 
          RIGHT. 
          SO, BUT THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING IS WE NEED TO DEVELOP SOME KIND OF BROCHURE, UH, PAMPHLET, TRI-FOLD, WHATEVER YOU WANNA CALL IT, UM, TO DISTRIBUTE TO MENTAL HEALTH PROFESSIONALS. 
          'CAUSE IT IS JUST LIKE, YOU JUST CAN'T PUT IT ON THE BAYTOWN SIDE. 
          HEY, IF YOU HAVE A MENTAL HEALTH ISSUE, UH, DROP BY THE POLICE STATION, UH,  IT, YOU KNOW, IT WOULD BE BEST COMING. 
          NOT, NOT SAYING THAT THE DOCTOR HAS TO SIGN IT, BUT JUST A FORM THAT THEY CAN HAND TO PEOPLE AND SAYING, IF YOU'D LIKE TO BE RECORDED AND MAKE SURE THAT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT HAS YOUR INFORMATION, BRING THIS FORM, YOU KNOW, TO THE BAYTOWN POLICE DEPARTMENT. 
          AND AS, THAT'S JUST MY THING. 
          JUST EVEN THOUGH IT'S, IT WOULD BE VOLUNTARY OF COURSE, BUT THAT WAY, YOU KNOW, YOU WOULD KNOW THAT THAT PERSON IS THERE WITHOUT BEING IN THE HARRIS COUNTY HEALTH SYSTEM. 
          'CAUSE IF THEY'RE NOT A TROUBLE, IF THEY'VE NOT HAD TROUBLE IN THE PAST, THEY'RE NOT GONNA BE IN THE HARRIS COUNTY SYSTEM. 
          I MEAN, I FEEL LIKE THAT'S LOW, LOW HANGING FRUIT. 
          I MEAN, 'CAUSE HE, IF HE SAID THAT HE COULD PUT IT IN THE SYSTEM NOW. 
          RIGHT. 
          SO DO YOU HAVE A CONNECTION OVER THERE AT HARRIS COUNTY THAT YOU CAN ASK TO SEE WHETHER OR NOT THAT'S ANYTHING THEY'VE EVER DONE BEFORE? WELL, CERTAINLY. 
          BUT LET ME JUST, MAYBE I CAN ADDRESS WHAT, UH, SHE'S REFERRING TO. 
          BUT, UM, JUST KINDA GIVE YOU AN IDEA HOW THIS WOULD PLAY OUT. 
          I, I, I, I DON'T KNOW WHO SAID, I'M NOT SURE THAT DOCTORS ARE GONNA BE WILLING TO PUT THEIR NAME ON SOMETHING TO, YOU KNOW, GO SELF ADMIT. 
          BUT LET'S JUST SAY FOR EXAMPLE, A CONSUMER COMES INTO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AT THE, AT THE ENCOURAGEMENT OF THEIR, THEIR HEALTHCARE PROVIDER TO SAY, HEY, I'VE NEVER BEEN IN TROUBLE, BUT I'VE GOT SOME, YOU KNOW, ISSUES GOING ON. 
          I JUST WANT Y'ALL TO BE AWARE OF IT. 
          SO AS PART OF OUR MENTAL HEALTH CALL RESPONSE, WE ACTUALLY DO HAVE A FORM, UH, THAT WE CREATED THAT IT NAME ALL THE, YOU KNOW, THE, THE, THE, UH, NAME, BIRTHDATE AND ALL THOSE THINGS, RIGHT? BUT IT ALSO GOES DOWN TO NEXT TOKIN WHO'S YOUR, UH, YOUR, YOUR HEALTH PROVIDER TRIGGERS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          SOME THINGS THAT, THAT, AGAIN, INFORMATION IS OUR BEST FRIEND, RIGHT? SO IT IS THE, THE PERTINENT THINGS THAT WE WOULD NEED TO KNOW. 
          WE WERE GONNA GO, UH, TO A CALL AT THIS PERSON'S, UH, ADDRESS. 
          SO LET'S SAY A PERSON COMES IN AND SAYS, HEY, I WANT TO BASICALLY SELF ADMIT THAT I'M, I GOT SOME ISSUES. 
          I WANT TO GET IN Y'ALL SYSTEM OR WHATEVER. 
          OUR OFFICER WOULD GET THAT FORM, FILL IT OUT, RIGHT? CHECK ALL THE BOXES, FILL IN ALL THE BLANKS, AND THEN WHAT THEY WOULD DO IS THEY WOULD CREATE A STREET CHECK WITH THAT PERSON THERE AT THEIR HOME ADDRESS. 
          THAT FORM WOULD THEN BE ATTACHED TO THAT STREET CHECK IN OUR SYSTEM. 
          SO IF ANY OFFICER GOT DISPATCHED TO A CALL TO AN ADDRESS OR CALL INVOLVING THIS PARTICULAR PERSON AND THEY RAN THAT PERSON, THEY COULD THEN PULL THAT UP, THAT STREET CHECKUP, SEE THAT THEY CAME IN AS SELF, UH, UH, SELF-ADMITTED, UH, FOR LACK OF BETTER TERMS. AND THEN THEY COULD A, ACTUALLY ALSO SEE THAT FORM THAT WE ATTACH TO IT TO SEE WHAT THE TRIGGERS ARE, WHO'S THE NEXT AKIN, UH, WHAT MEDICATIONS THEY'RE ON, WHO'S THEIR DOCTOR, AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. 
          DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? I MEAN, THAT SOUNDS PERFECT, . 
          YEAH, THAT WOULD BE PERFECT. 
          BUT WE NEED TO GET THAT IN THE HEALTHCARE OFFICES, RIGHT? AND, AND, AND THAT WOULDN'T BE A PROBLEM MAKING A BROCHURE AND DROPPING IT OFF AND JUST HAVE IT IN THE LOBBY OR WHATEVER. 
          RIGHT? I THINK THAT'S THE BEST AVENUE. 
          RATHER THAN GIVING IT TO A DOCTOR TO MAKE THEM HAVE TO GIVE IT, YOU COULD PROVIDE THINGS IN LOBBIES AND THINGS LIKE THAT WITH THE PERMISSION OF 
          [00:50:01]
THE DOCTORS. 
          YEAH. 
          THE DOCTORS ARE GONNA PROVE WHAT'S IN THEIR LOBBIES THOUGH. 
          I MEAN, BUT THEY WOULD STILL, THAT WOULD BE WHERE DO PEOPLE ALWAYS SEE THINGS IN THE LOBBY WHEN THEY'RE READING MAGAZINES AND THEY SEE THAT WE COULD PUT THAT WITH THEIR PERMISSION IN THEIR RIGHT. 
          UH, THAT ARE IN DEBATE TOWN, YOU KNOW? BUT I THINK THERE NEEDS TO BE A MEETING HAD THOUGH. 
          I THINK THAT MAYBE YOU EXECUTE A MEETING WITH ALL THE AREA MENTAL HEALTH PRACTITIONERS, LETTING THEM KNOW WHAT, YOU KNOW, THIS BEING PROACTIVE. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND, AND JUST, YOU KNOW, LET THEM KNOW THAT THEY DON'T HAVE TO, THAT'S A GOOD IDEA. 
          PASS IT OUT TO EVERY SINGLE PERSON. 
          BUT THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO BE ABLE TO HAVE THIS INFORMATION THERE AND IF THEY FEEL, IF THEY FEEL, YOU KNOW, COMFORTABLE PROMOTING IT RIGHT THEN THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL. 
          BUT I MEAN, THAT WOULD BE, THAT'D BE NICE. 
          HOW DO YOU SEE THAT CHIEF? I MEAN, I HEAR WHAT SHE SAID. 
          I MEAN, HOW DO YOU GUYS DO COMMUNITY SERVICE OUTREACH, REALLY IS WHAT SHE'S ASKING. 
          IF YOU WERE TARGETING CLINICIANS, HOW WOULD YOU DO THAT? WELL, UH, IT'S BASICALLY NO DIFFERENT THAN ANY OTHER COMMUNITY ORGANIZATION OR WHO YOU WANNA REACH OUT TO. 
          YOU KNOW, IF I WANT TO GET THE PASTORS AND ALL THE COMMUNITY, I GO FIND THIS ASSOCIATION THAT DEALS WITH THAT. 
          BUT, UH, WE HAVE REACHED OUT TO HOUSTON METHODIST HOSPITAL, UH, THAT'S THERE AND TALKED WITH ONE OF THEIR DOCTORS THAT'S OVER THERE. 
          IT'S HEAD OF THEIR PSYCHOLOGY DEPARTMENT STUFF THAT HAS SOME CONNECTIONS. 
          SO THAT, THAT'S WHAT WE WOULD DO AND USE THEIR CONNECTIONS IN ORDER TO SEE IF WE COULD GET A MEETING IN PERSON WHERE WE CAN EXPLAIN THE INFORMATION OR THERE, IF NOT, YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE, THEY WORK AND SCHEDULES ARE TIGHT. 
          WE COULD DRAFT A LETTER FROM THE BAYTOWN POLICE DEPARTMENT TO THESE INDIVIDUALS AND EITHER HAND DELIVER OR MAIL IT TO THEIR ADDRESSES EXPLAINING WHAT IT IS THAT WE'RE DOING. 
          BUT I THINK AS A COMMUNITY, YOU KNOW, OUR CITY COUNCIL AND EVERYBODY ELSE THAT'S INVOLVED, IF WE'RE PROMOTING THIS AS WELL, A LOT OF THESE DOCTORS ARE GOING TO HEAR IT. 
          YOU KNOW, THEY'RE GONNA SEE THE THING OF, HEY, THIS IS A PRETTY GOOD PROGRAM AND SOMETHING OF THAT SORT TO GO ON. 
          SO, UM, BELIEVE ME, LIKE I'VE EXPLAINED TO YOU BEFORE, WE'RE HERE TO DO WHATEVER WE NEED TO, YOU KNOW, IF WE NEED TO MAKE A BROCHURE, WE NEED TO GO MAKE, VISIT, KNOCK ON DOORS, YOU KNOW, THAT'S GONNA APPEASE AND HELP WITH THAT SITUATION. 
          WE'LL, WE WILL TRY EVERYTHING WE CAN WITHIN BAYTOWN. 
          WE HAVE TO REMEMBER, THERE'S A LOT OF THESE CLIENTS WHO SEE DOCTORS THAT ARE OUTSIDE OF B 10, RIGHT. 
          WE'RE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO REACH, UH, BUT THE ONES THAT ARE LOCAL OR THINGS THAT ARE HERE, WE'LL DO EVERYTHING IN OUR EFFORTS TO TRY TO REACH THEM. 
          AWESOME. 
          THAT SOUNDS GOOD TO ME. 
          DO YOU NEED US TO HELP WITH THE BROCHURE AT ALL, OR MA'AM, DO YOU WANT US TO HELP WITH THE BROCHURE AT ALL OR? OH, WE, WE CAN SIT THERE AND DO WHATEVER I, I, I'LL TAKE ANY HELP THAT GOES INTO IT. 
          , WE CAN COME UP WITH A THING, BUT IT'S SOMETHING THAT, UH, I THINK, AGAIN, LIKE KEVIN WAS SAYING, SOMETHING THAT WE RECOMMEND AS A COMMITTEE TO COUNCIL OF THESE ARE SOME OF THE IDEAS. 
          AND THEN IT COMES UP TO WHERE THEY'RE GONNA PROBABLY SAY, OKAY, WHAT'S SOME OF YOUR RECOMMENDATIONS? AND TURN IT OVER TO ME AND SAY, WHAT DO YOU THINK? YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT'S YOUR IDEAS? WHICH IS THIS ONE OF THOSE SITUATIONS CHIEF THAT, YOU KNOW, AND I'M, I'M, I'M, I'M ASKING THIS 'CAUSE I HONESTLY DON'T KNOW. 
          UH, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE THE BAYTOWN POLICE ADVISORY COMMITTEE, BUT I ALSO KNOW THAT THERE'S OTHER, UH, DIVISIONS WITHIN THE, THE CITY GOVERNMENT THAT HELPS TO RAISE FUNDS AND HELP TO CONTRIBUTE TO, YOU KNOW, THE AMBULANCES AND, YOU KNOW, DIFFERENT EQUIPMENT AROUND THE, THE CITY. 
          IS THIS SOMETHING THAT MAYBE ONCE, ONCE IT'S APPROVED, IT NEEDS TO WORK WITH THAT NONPROFIT, UH, ORGANIZATION THAT WITHIN THE, THE SPHERE OF THE CITY TO, TO HELP FUND THE BROCHURES, SHORES FUND, THE, THE OUTREACH COMPONENT OF IT OR, SO HE'S TALKING WHETHER YOU WOULD HAVE CCPD FUND THIS PART OF THIS ING COST? WELL, AND A LOT OF THINGS, I MEAN, YES, THERE ARE OTHER FUNDS THAT ARE AVAILABLE THROUGH CCPD, BUT CCPD IS MORE OF A CAPITAL PURCHASE. 
          SO IT'S LIKE LARGE ITEM PURCHASES. 
          GOTCHA. 
          I DON'T THINK THAT THIS IS GONNA BE A LARGE ITEM WITH BROCHURES AND STICKERS. 
          YEAH. 
          IT'S GONNA MEET THAT. 
          UM, SO, YOU KNOW, WE LOOK AT OTHER AVENUES THAT WE CAN SEE, YOU KNOW, AND, AND THE THING IS, IS MAYBE AFTER YOU PRESENT THIS PROGRAM, SEE AN INITIAL, AND IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT THE PUBLIC AND THE DOCTORS AND EVERYBODY BACK, THEN IT COULD POSSIBLY BE SELF-FUNDED THROUGH SOMETHING LIKE THAT IN THE FUTURE. 
          OKAY. 
          QUICK QUESTION, CHIEF. 
          YOU KNOW, TALKING TO HARRIS COUNTY, THE, THE SERGEANT THERE, YOU KNOW, WHEN THEY'RE DOING THESE BROCHURES OR THESE FLYERS THAT THEY DO, ONCE THEY GET 'EM, WE, BECAUSE I KNOW HARRIS COUNTY VETS, ALL THOSE, THOSE UH, UH, APPLICATIONS AND THEY ACTUALLY AN OFFICER TO EACH ONE TO MAKE SURE THOSE, THOSE ARE THE PEOPLE THAT ARE, UH, SIGNING UP OR REALLY HAVE THAT PROBLEM CORRECT. 
          AND, YOU KNOW, WE ARE GONNA BE DOING THAT. 
          OR, OR YES. 
          VALIDATION IS THE BIGGEST POINT. 
          THAT'S WHAT I GET TO. 
          IF YOU DON'T HAVE A DOCTOR WHO SIGNS OFF ON IT TO SAY, YEAH, THIS PERSON SUFFERS FROM THIS MENTAL 
          [00:55:01]
ILLNESS, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO VALIDATE INFORMATION THAT'S VOLUNTEERED, ESPECIALLY ADULTS WANTING TO REPORT ANOTHER ADULT TO MAKE SURE WE DON'T HAVE A SITUATION WHERE, UH, A SPOUSE IS UPSET AT THE OTHER ONE. 
          YOU KNOW? BUT YES, THERE WILL BE A VALIDATION THAT'S PUT INTO PLAY, AND THAT'S WHERE LIEUTENANT DORIS AND THE MENTAL HEALTH OFFICERS THAT ARE THERE, ONCE THEY SEE THAT IT'S ATTACHED INTO THE STREET CHECK AND IT GIVES THEM A FLAG, AND HE'LL SEND ONE OF THE MENTAL HEALTH OFFICERS OUT TO THE LOCATION TO VALIDATE THE INFORMATION RATHER THAN JUST PUBLISHING SOMETHING IN THERE AND FLAGGING SOMETHING ON AN INDIVIDUAL. 
          SO YES, WE, WE'VE THOUGHT ABOUT ALL THOSE THINGS TOO AS WELL. 
          HOW MANY MENTAL HEALTH OFFICERS DO WE HAVE CURRENTLY? 24. 
          I JUST COUNTED THEM. 
          . 
          24. 
          24. 
          MENTAL HEALTH OFFICERS? NO. 
          MENTAL HEALTH. 
          NO. 
          I WANTED TO KNOW HOW MANY MENTAL HEALTH OFFICERS NO, SHE MEANT MENTAL HEALTH FOR, I WAS GONNA GO 24. 
          DID WE HAVE SOME MORE? THEY GOT TRAINING THIS LAST WEEK. 
          NO, SHE'S RECRUITING GOING, GEE, SHE HELPED ME OUT THERE. 
          WELL, 24 OFFICES. 
          SO WE ACTUALLY HAVE, UM, I HAVE FIVE PEOPLE RIGHT NOW THAT ARE, UH, WHAT I CALL MY, MY, UH, CRISIS INTERVENTION TEAM. 
          UM, THAT THEY'VE BEEN THROUGH THE, NOT ONLY THE CIT TRAINING, BUT THE MENTAL HEALTH POLICE OFFICER TRAINING AS WELL. 
          NOW WE HAVE OTHER OFFICERS, UH, IN THE DEPARTMENT THAT HAVE BEEN THROUGH THIS, THE SAME TRAINING. 
          THEY'RE JUST NOT TECHNICALLY A PART OF THE TEAM JUST YET. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, I WILL TELL YOU THOUGH, THAT'S, UH, I, I'M IN THE RECRUITING PHASE. 
          RIGHT. 
          SO WHAT IS YOUR GOAL? DO YOU, DO WE HAVE A GOAL OF HOW MANY WE THINK WE NEED TO HAVE TO BE SUFFICIENT FOR OUR DEPARTMENT OR ? YEAH. 
          GET MY WISHLIST. 
          THAT 20? YEAH. 
          IDEALLY, WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IS I'D LIKE TO SEE US HAVE 10 FULL-TIME MENTAL HEALTH OFFICERS. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT THAT'S WHERE THEY DIDN'T HAVE TO RESPOND TO CALLS. 
          THEY DIDN'T HAVE TO DO ANYTHING ELSE OTHER THAN DEAL WITH THE, UH, RESPOND TO MENTAL HEALTH CALLS AND DO THE, THE BACKEND FOLLOW UP, UH, THE OUTREACH PROGRAMS AND ALL OF THAT STUFF. 
          THAT WOULD BE TO ME, IDEALLY, I WAS SITTING HERE TALKING TODAY NOW THAT, THAT MAY CHANGE, THAT THE CHIEF MAY HAVE A DIFFERENT NUMBER IN MIND, BUT JUST ME SITTING HERE TALKING TODAY, THAT WOULD IDEALLY, UH, FOR IT TO JUST BE A COMPLETELY INDEPENDENT UNIT, UH, THAT THAT'S ALL THEY DO. 
          CHAIRMAN MONTGOMERY, I'VE, UM, KIND OF SUMMARIZED SOME OF THE THINGS THAT YOU'VE TALKED ABOUT AND MAYBE IN A SLIDE FORMAT THAT WE CAN PUT IN YOUR, YOUR SLIDESHOW. 
          I WAS WONDERING IF THAT'S OKAY IF I HAND OUT TO THE COMMITTEE, Y'ALL CAN TALK ABOUT IT. 
          WE CAN NO, NO PRIDE IN AUTHORSHIP. 
          MARK IT UP AND TALK ABOUT RIGHT. 
          WE CAN MARK IT UP AND HOWEVER YOU WANT. 
          YEAH. 
          THAT'S WHERE I WAS ABOUT TO GO ASK YOU, WE A LOT ON THE TABLE HERE, YOU'RE GONNA TELL COUNSEL THAT YOU'VE TALKED ABOUT A SERIES OF THINGS. 
          YOU'RE GONNA GET TO THE POINT, YOU'VE GOT YOUR BUCKETS OF CONCERNS. 
          NUMBER ONE IS MENTAL HEALTH IN THE AREA OF MENTAL HEALTH. 
          WE'VE TALKED ABOUT A SERIES OF THINGS THAT WE COULD DO IN WORKING WITH, UH, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. 
          AND SO NOW THIS DESCRIBES THAT. 
          SO NOW YOU'RE GONNA TALK BASICALLY TOPICS AND YOU'RE GONNA BE ASKING GENERICALLY FOR THEIR SUPPORT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          HEY, I LIKE THAT. 
          AWESOME. 
          WELL, WE'LL HAVE TO HELP YOU. 
          SO THE ACRONYMS WE'LL HAVE TO HELP WITH. 
          YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. 
          SO I'M ASKING THIS QUESTION. 
          SO ON THE NIGHT THAT WE PRESENT TO THE COUNCIL, UH, CHIEF, YOU WILL BE THERE. 
          I'M ASK . 
          I'M ALWAYS AT COUNCIL. 
          ALL GOOD. 
          OKAY. 
          YOU GONNA SAY, UH, YEAH, YOU KNOW, I MIGHT LOOK AROUND AT YOU AND BE LIKE, COME ON UP, . 
          NO, HE'S GONNA BE SITTING RIGHT THERE. 
          I'M GONNA BE SITTING RIGHT THERE. 
          OKAY. 
          YOU'LL BE RIGHT THERE. 
          BUT THEN I'M GONNA POINT AT YOU AND SAY, TALK TO HIM. 
          . 
          OKAY. 
          AWESOME. 
          WELL, DO WE NEED TO MAKE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THIS OR, UM, IF YOU WANT TO CHANGE IT OR WHATEVER YOU CAN. 
          AND THEN AFTER YOU FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH IT, IS WHAT YOU DISCUSSED THIS EVENING. 
          AND IF YOU LIKE IT, UM, THEN A MOTION WOULD BE GREAT TO APPROVE THE REPORT AS PRESENTED WITH THIS ADDITIONAL SLIDE. 
          SO, MR. CHAIRMAN, IF YOU'RE READY, I'M, I SAY WE, I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE ACCEPT THE, THE, THE REPORT THAT LIEUTENANT DORIS HAS PRESENTED TO US WITH THE CORE PROGRAM, THE PROJECT GUARDIAN DECALS, AND, AND SUPPORTING THIS TO MOVE FORWARD TO, TO THE FULL COUNCIL UPON OUR PRESENTATION. 
          OKAY. 
          DO WE WANNA PUT IN HERE ANYTHING ABOUT THE, UM, DISTRI DISTRIBUTION THROUGH MENTAL HEALTH FACILITIES? I, I THINK THAT, I THINK THAT'S GONNA BE IN THE, THE, THE DETAILS. 
          THE DETAILS OF WHEN OF IMPLEMENTATION. 
          DO YOU WANT IT OR NOT? I CAN STICK IT IN REAL QUICK. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THEN, AND THEN ALSO, YOU KNOW, THE OTHER DECALS FOR CONSIDERATION OUTSIDE OF AUTO, UH, AUTISM. 
          I MEAN, ARE WE STILL GONNA CONSIDER THAT OR DO WE STILL WANNA HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT THAT? THE, YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT THE DECALS JUST FOR, 
          [01:00:01]
JUST FOR MENTAL HEALTH FROM THE PEOPLE WE DEAL WITH FOR THE CORE PROGRAM. 
          WELL, I MEAN, I, I WAS JUST THROWING IT OUT THERE. 
          HOPEFULLY I JUST DID A QUICK SEARCH ON THE INTERNET. 
          UM, JUST, JUST PUT IN NATIONAL MENTAL HEALTH DECAL. 
          THERE ARE, THEY'RE ALL OVER THE PLACE. 
          SO THERE'S NOT A STANDARDIZED ONE, ONE LO UH, DECAL, BUT THEY ARE OUT THERE. 
          WELL, THEY'RE, THEY'RE ALL OVER THE PLACE AS FAR AS DESIGN AND, AND ALL OF THAT. 
          SO, I MEAN, IN MY ESTIMATION, IF THERE WAS SOMETHING TO BE DEVELOPED INTO A PROGRAM, IT WOULD BE DEVELOPING A DECAL. 
          I MEAN, THAT WOULD BE A LONG, LONG PROCESS, WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT WE MAY BE ABLE TO, TO, AS A COMMITTEE TO TALK ABOUT AFTER THIS, THIS PRESENTATION THAT WE'RE GONNA BE GIVEN IN, IN MAY. 
          THAT MAY BE SOMETHING THAT ON, UM, C THAT WE COULD PUT AS A, AS AN OPTION. 
          YEAH. 
          MAYBE ANOTHER BULLET POINT. 
          YEAH'S ANOTHER BULLET POINT. 
          FUTURE, FUTURE DETAIL TO BE, YEAH, YEAH, BECAUSE THIS IS NOT, THIS IS NOT GOING TO BE OUR, OUR ONE AND ONLY PRESENTATION TO THE COMMITTEE. 
          THIS, I MEAN TO THE COUNCIL. 
          THIS IS JUST OUR FIRST PRESENTATION. 
          I MEAN, I WOULD BE, I, I WOULD APPRECIATE AN ADDITIONAL BULLET ONLY BECAUSE LOOKING AT THE HISTORY OF WHAT Y'ALL STARTED IN THE OTHER COMMITTEE, RIGHT? MM-HMM . 
          I DON'T THINK IT WAS JUST AUTISM. 
          NO, IT WASN'T. 
          OH, NO. 
          OKAY. 
          IT WASN'T. 
          THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT I WAS, SO WHAT WOULD YOU WANT THAT BULLET TO SAY, DR. BROWN? WHAT HE JUST SAID? , . 
          YOU KNOW, YOU TELL DEVELOPED IN THE FUTURE. 
          CAN Y'ALL REWIND THE TAPE? BECAUSE I DON'T REMEMBER WHAT I SAID. 
          , CAN WE JUST PUT, UM, DATABASE AND DECALS FOR ALL MENTAL ILLNESSES UNDER THAT ONE THING? YES, EXACTLY. 
          SOUNDS LIKE A GOOD SUMMARY OF WHAT I SAID. 
          THANK YOU, . 
          THERE YOU GO. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THE ONLY THING I WORRY ABOUT, CHIEF, FOR YOUR PEOPLE, AND I'M, I'M JUST LISTENING, I'M THINKING OUT LOUD, IS TO YOUR POINT THAT YOU MADE ABOUT SO MANY DECALS, I MEAN, THE RMS SYSTEM, YOU AT LEAST KNOW YOU'VE GOT IT DOCUMENT AND YOU GUYS CAN SEE WHAT, WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? YOU'VE GOT NARRATIVE. 
          WHEN I'M WALKING UP TO A HOUSE AND THERE'S 250 KIND OF DECALS, NOW I'M WORRIED ABOUT YOUR GUYS BEING CONFUSED. 
          DO THEY KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS? WELL, I DON'T. 
          GO AHEAD. 
          YEAH. 
          AND SO THAT'S WHAT WE JUST CREATED THERE. 
          SO I WOULD BASICALLY SAY, YES, THAT'S THE EDUCATION WE'D HAVE TO PUT FORTH WITH OUR OFFICERS IN THE VERY BEGINNING TO IDENTIFY IF THERE'S ANY TYPE OF DECAL. 
          IT WOULD HAVE TO COME FROM BASICALLY THE POLICE DEPARTMENT SO OTHERS DON'T PRODUCE THEIR OWN. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND THEN THE OTHER THING IS THE EDUCATION OF OUR OFFICERS SO THEY KNOW WHAT IT IS. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, IF YOU HAVE A SEPARATE ONE FOR BIPOLAR ONE FOR, YOU KNOW, THAT'S NOT WHAT WE, UH, THE, WHAT YOU WANT TO DO IS DRAW THE ATTENTION REAL QUICK OF THE ULCER, IF THAT'S WHAT IT IS TO IDENTIFY. 
          RIGHT. 
          SO IF IT'S NOT AN AUTISM, IF IT'S ANOTHER TYPE OF STICKER THAT WE COULD DO THAT MAYBE DOES NOT, UM, CATEGORIZE AN INDIVIDUAL, RIGHT. 
          WE SAY THAT BECAUSE I KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE VERY INDEPENDENT AND THEY WANT TO KEEP THEIR INFORMATION, BUT IF THERE'S SOMETHING ELSE THAT WOULD JUST BE ABLE TO PUT OUT THERE, WELL, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE COULD DO. 
          I, I WOULD SUGGEST JUST DOING LIKE ONE DECAL YES. 
          FOR BIPOLAR, SCHIZOPHRENIC AND THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          AND IT ENCOMPASSES EVERYTHING DIFFERENT. 
          YES. 
          AND, AND BASICALLY THAT DRAWS THE ONE ATTENTION AND THEY KNOW, LET ME GO DOUBLE CHECK THIS STREET CHECK OR WHATEVER THAT'S THERE AND REPORT SYSTEM TO GO. 
          YES. 
          I, I, I DEFINITELY, AND PLUS I DON'T WANNA PRODUCE 10 DIFFERENT BUMPER STICKERS MM-HMM . 
          AND STICKERS THAT ARE OUT THERE THAT, THAT ARE IN PLAY. 
          BECAUSE THEN SOMEBODY WILL SAY, WELL, I HAVE BIPOLAR, I'M SCHIZOPHRENIC, AND I HAVE ALL THESE OTHERS, SO I NEED FIVE DIFFERENT STICKERS. 
          NO, JUST IF THEY HAVE THE ONE, THEN THAT'S WHAT THE ONE STICKER TELLS 'EM, SOMETHING'S GOING ON HERE. 
          CORRECT. 
          AND I LOOK AT MY RMS PAD TO GET THE DETAILS. 
          EXACTLY. 
          EXACTLY. 
          AND, AND THE REASON WHY WITH AUTISM IS THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY ENJOY THAT. 
          THAT'S THEIR NATIONAL PIECE. 
          THAT'S NATIONAL. 
          RIGHT. 
          SO IF YOU WANT TO DO SOMETHING THAT'S A MENTAL ILLNESS THAT'S ON THE OTHER SIDE OF IT THAT JUST SAYS SOMETHING ELSE. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, YEARS AGO WE RE, WE DID CREATE BUMPER STICKERS FOR VEHICLES, PEOPLE'S CARS THAT WERE INVOLVED IN A WRAP PROGRAM. 
          THAT WAS BASICALLY FOR VEHICLE IDENTIFICATION, THEFT. 
          SO AT NIGHTTIME, IF AN OFFICER SAW ONE OF THESE STICKERS ON THE BACK OF THE CAR, THE CITIZEN HAD HAD BASICALLY GIVEN THE INFORMATION TO THE OFFICER THAT PULL MY CAR OVER IF IT'S OUT AFTER MIDNIGHT, BECAUSE I DON'T GO OUT AFTER MIDNIGHT. 
          BUT IT WAS BECAUSE OF VEHICLE THEFT DURING THAT TIME. 
          THERE WAS A LOT OF VEHICLE THEFT. 
          SO PEOPLE IDENTIFIED WITH THE AUTO THEFT PROGRAM AND DID STICKERS LIKE THAT. 
          AND THIS IS THE SAME THING. 
          IT WOULD BE A STICKER THAT WOULD IDENTIFY THAT SAYS THERE'S SOMETHING HERE AND, UH, IT, I NEED TO GO LOOK. 
          AND, AND IT'S SIMPLER TO KEEP IT TO THOSE, YOU KNOW, I WOULD JUST, IF WE WANT TO DO IT, STICK TO AN AUTISM ONE AND THEN DO ONE JUST GENERALLY FOR 
          [01:05:02]
ALL THE OTHERS, UH, JUST TO GO AND PLAY. 
          THAT WOULD BE ON. 
          I LIKE THAT IDEA OF JUST HAVING ONE THAT ENCOMPASSES, YEAH. 
          PLUS AUTISM. 
          AND, AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO WORK WITH FOLKS. 
          UH, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT THE EXPERTS TO GO WITH THAT. 
          THAT'S WHERE I WOULD ASK FOR CLINICIAN'S INPUT TO SAY, WHAT DO YOU THINK WITH YOUR CLIENTS, THE CONSUMERS, YOU KNOW, FOLKS THAT WOULD SAY, OKAY, THIS DOESN'T SELF-IDENTIFY A WHOLE LOT TO THE REST OF THE GENERAL PUBLIC OUT THERE, BUT IT WILL TO A POLICE OFFICER COMING TO THE SCENE. 
          EVEN AMBULANCE, YOU KNOW, PARAMEDICS COMING TO THE SCENE. 
          THAT'S THE OTHER THING IS TO REMEMBER THAT WE'RE NOT ALWAYS THE FIRST ONES TO GET THERE. 
          IF THERE'S A CRISIS AND, AND THERE'S A HEALTH CONCERN, UH, EMS MAY BE THERE BEFORE. 
          SO IT ALSO, THAT'S WHERE WE WOULD EDUCATE SO THAT THEY WOULD KNOW AS WELL THAT, HEY, WHAT IS THIS? THAT, OKAY, SOMEBODY SUFFERS FROM A MENTAL ILLNESS HERE. 
          AND, AND TO THAT POINT, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT ALREADY HAS A SYSTEM IN PLACE, ESPECIALLY FOR COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS, THAT WHEN THEY ROLL UP ON A COMMERCIAL BUILDING, THEY, THEY IDENTIFY KEY, KEY, UH, LOCATIONS. 
          AND THEY'RE LOOKING FOR DECALS ALREADY. 
          SO IN WORKING IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT MAY BE A KEY ELEMENT OF DEVELOPING THAT, THAT THAT WOULD CROSS CROSSPOLLINATE BETWEEN BOTH, BOTH POLICE AND FIRE DEPARTMENT, BECAUSE THAT WILL ALSO PROTECT THE, THE, UH, EMS AS WELL. 
          SO, SO DO WE NEED TO MOTION AGAIN TO WAIT, WAIT, WAIT, WAIT. 
          , I GOTTA, I TYPICALLY DON'T SPEAK, UM, THE DECAL. 
          I WOULD BE EVEN MORE INTERESTED IN TO WHAT YOU SAID ABOUT HARRIS COUNTY. 
          WE TALKED ABOUT COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, THE POSITIVE ENGAGEMENT. 
          SO THE COMMUNITY FILLS, YOU KNOW, YOU ONE IN ALIGNMENT WITH THE POLICE, UM, BAYTOWN POLICE. 
          SO WHY NOT HAVE THAT DECAL AS THE LAPEL PIN, RIGHT? SO THAT EVEN IF YOU'RE NOT AT A MENTAL HEALTH CALL OR IF YOU'RE OUT IN THE PUBLIC, PEOPLE COULD START ASKING YOU AND PEOPLE CAN START SEEING THAT YOU REALLY ARE CONCERNED ABOUT MENTAL HEALTH AND THAT YOU'RE, YOU'RE, YOU'RE TAKING A STEP FORWARD TO ENSURE THAT OTHER PEOPLE ARE AWARE THAT YOU'RE AWARE. 
          DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? SO, I MEAN, I JUST FEEL LIKE IT GOES HAND IN HAND. 
          SO IF YOU CREATE THE, THE DECAL, MAYBE HAVING THE, THE POLICE OFFICERS HAVE A LAPEL PIN SHOWING THAT THEY ARE TRAINED TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT MEANS AND, AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF. 
          BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE THAT'S GONNA BRING MORE OF COLLABORATION AND IT'S GONNA TAKE YEARS, TRUST ME. 
          'CAUSE IT DOESN'T TAKE JUST, I MEAN, IT DOESN'T HAPPEN AUTOMATICALLY, BUT I THINK THAT IF YOU GO TO CITY COUNCIL AND YOU PUSH, PUSH, PUSH AND TALK ABOUT THAT COLLABORATION, IT COULD BE HELPFUL. 
          THAT'S MY THOUGHT. 
          GOOD IDEA. 
          THANK YOU. 
          SHARING. 
          OKAY. 
          SO WE NEED A MOTION. 
          THIS IS GONNA BE B, INCLUDING OUR, UM, MENTAL ILLNESS, UM, PRIORITY LIST. 
          I MAKE A MOTION. 
          MOTION MADE BY PASTOR B. 
          WE GET A SECOND. 
          OH MY GOD, YES. 
          . 
          THEY'VE BEEN MY FIRST AND SECOND MOTION ALL NIGHT. 
          SECOND BY DR. 
          STANSKI. 
          ALL IN FAVOR INDICATE BY SAYING AYE. 
          AYE. 
          AYE. 
          ALL THE OPPOSED EASY FOR TAKING MINUTES. 
          ALRIGHT, I HAVE IT. 
          NEXT. 
          WE NEED TO 
          [c.  Consider setting any tasks and processes for future meetings. ]
CONSIDER, UH, SETTING, UH, ANY TASK AND THE PROCESSES FOR FUTURE MEETINGS. 
          I WILL JUMP OUT THERE. 
          GO AHEAD. 
          SO OVER THE COURSE OF THE LAST SEVERAL MONTHS, I'VE BEEN TRYING TO EDUCATE MYSELF WITH VARIOUS ASPECTS OF BAYTOWN POLICE DEPARTMENT. 
          UM, AND SINCE THE, UH, MENTAL ILLNESS KEPT COMING TO THE SURFACE, UM, I, I KEPT LOOKING FOR DIFFERENT, DIFFERENT OPTIONS OF, OF HOW CAN, HOW CAN WE COME TO THE CITY COUNCIL AND, YOU KNOW, LOOK AT SOME THINGS. 
          AND SO I STARTED LOOKING AT OUR EMERGENCY COMMUNICATION, STARTING WITH OUR EMERGENCY COMMUNICATIONS. 
          AND I WANNA SAY, UM, I AM, I'M THANKFUL THAT WE HAVE THE EMERGENCY COMMUNICATION SYSTEM THAT WE DO HAVE. 
          UM, STEVE JONES AND HIS, HIS, HIS CREW OUT AT, UM, NORTH MAIN COM COMPLEX ARE DOING AN EXCEPTIONAL JOB. 
          AND, UM, I THINK WHEN IT COMES TO, UM, STILL FOCUSING ON THE MENTAL HEALTH COMPONENT, UM, THE, THE CALL TAKERS OUT THERE, THERE ARE THE FIRST, YOU KNOW, NOT TO, NOT TO USE A DEFENSIVE WORD, BUT THEY ARE THE FIRST LINE OF DEFENSE WHEN IT COMES TO, UH, TO THAT AREA. 
          AND, UM, AND I, I BEGAN TO ASK SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT ALL DOES OUR, OUR COMMUNICATIONS, YOU KNOW, LOOK, YOU KNOW, HOW DOES, HOW DOES THAT LOOK? AND I'VE, AS A CHAPLAIN, I'VE HAD THE PRIVILEGE OF SITTING OUT THERE, UH, LISTENING TO, YOU KNOW, SOME CALLS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. 
          AND, UM, COME TO FIND OUT, 
          [01:10:01]
I MEAN THE, THE, UH, EMERGENCY COMMUNICATION, UH, INBOUND CALLS, YOU KNOW, THEY TAKE EVERY KIND OF CALL THAT YOU CAN IMAGINE, POLICE, FIRE, UM, PETS, THINGS OF THAT NATURE. 
          AND, UM, AFTER THE UNFORTUNATE INCIDENT THAT HAPPENED A COUPLE OF SUNDAYS AGO, UM, WITH, UH, A 2-YEAR-OLD, YOU KNOW, UNFORTUNATELY DROWNING, UM, IT, IT, IT KIND OF BROUGHT TO LIGHT SOME THINGS ABOUT THE COMMUNICATION DEPARTMENT. 
          AND SO I BEGAN TO ASK THEM, I WAS LIKE, HOW DO Y'ALL DEAL WITH MENTAL HEALTH? THE MENTAL HEALTH COMPONENT WHEN, WHEN THERE'S AN INBOUND CALL? AND, AND WE HAVE VERY LIMITED TRAINING OUT THERE WITH THAT CREW. 
          AND AS OUR CITY GROWS, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE APPROXIMATELY 80,000 NOW IN BAYTOWN PROPER THAT'S GOING TO, TO GROW, YOU KNOW, PROBABLY BY 20,000 VERY RAPIDLY. 
          SO WE'RE GONNA BE PUTTING MORE ANYWAY. 
          SO CONSIDER SETTING A TASK. 
          I I AM PROPOSING THAT WE LOOK AT HOW, YOU KNOW, WHAT MAY BE SOME, SOME THINGS THAT COULD HELP OUR EMERGENCY COMMUNICATIONS IN, IN, IN THE WAY OF, WHETHER IT BE HUMAN RESOURCES, MENTAL HEALTH TRAINING, UH, FOR THEM. 
          BECAUSE COME TO FIND OUT, UH, SOME OF OUR CALL TAKERS ARE EVEN, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, EQUIPPED AND TRAINED FOR, UH, NEGOTIATIONS, HOSTAGE NEGOTIATION TYPE TRAINING AND ALL. 
          SO LOOKING AT THE COMPONENTS THAT COULD POSSIBLY EXPAND, YOU KNOW, THAT FIRST LINE, WHICH COULD THEN HELP, UM, YOU KNOW, THE POLICE OFFICERS THAT ARE RESPONDING TO WHEN THAT INBOUND CALL COMES AND THEY'RE RESPONDING, GOING OUT, I JUST THINK THAT THE EMERGENCY COMMUNICATION COMPONENT, UH, COULD BE BE LOOKED AT. 
          THE SECOND THING, UM, THAT, AND I'LL WAIT FOR PASTOR MONTGOMERY, UH, TO, TO GET BACK IN PLACE. 
          SO I'LL GO AHEAD AND DO THIS. 
          SO THROUGH THE BAYTOWN CITIZENS POLICE ACADEMY, UM, MR. HUNSINGER AND I HAVE BEEN PRIVILEGED TO BE IN THOSE CLASSES, AND I WOULD ENCOURAGE ALL OF THE COMMITTEE TO CONSIDER TAKING THAT CLASS NEXT TIME THAT IT'S AVAILABLE. 
          BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HAS BEEN VERY, VERY, UM, UM, EYE-OPENING TO ME HAS BEEN WHEN CORPORAL KENNETH HLA TOOK THE TIME TO GO OVER THE USE OF FORCE AND THE, THE VERY, THE FIVE LEVELS, THE UNDERSTANDING OF THAT, UM, I THINK THAT THERE IS AN EDUCATIONAL OPPORTUNITY, UM, THAT MAY BE ABLE TO, TO BE EXPOUNDED UPON TO, TO GO TO THE PUBLIC, UM, AND UNDERSTAND, I, YOU KNOW, I KNOW THAT THERE'S THE, THE PENAL CODE AND YOU CAN DIVE DEEP FOR WEEKS. 
          BUT I THINK THAT IF, IF WE UNDERSTOOD THE, THE USE OF FORCE, UH, THE FIVE LEVELS OF THE USE OF FORCE, UM, AND THEN USE THAT AS A COMMUNITY SERVICE, SOMEHOW INTERTWINE THAT INTO COMMUNITY SERVICE, TRANSPARENCY, THINGS OF THAT NATURE, UH, THAT MAY BE SOMETHING THAT, THAT COULD BE, UH, A KEY COMPONENT. 
          SO EMERGENCY COMMUNICATION AND UM, UH, THE BAYTOWN CPA USE OF FORCE, UH, OPERATIONS. 
          JUST A BETTER UNDERSTANDING FOR TRANSPARENCY DISCUSSION. 
          UM, WE'RE MAKING SUGGESTIONS ON WHAT WE'D LIKE TO SEE HAPPEN NEXT. 
          UM, I'D LIKE TO GO BACK INTO, UM, BETTER COMMUNITY RELATIONS. 
          I THINK THAT SHOULD BE HIGH ON OUR BUCKET LIST. 
          UM, WE'VE GOTTA BUILD BETTER RELATIONS WITH THE COMMUNITY, UH, WHETHER IT BE EQUITY TRAINING, UM, JUST GOING OUT IN THE COMMUNITY WITH ITS PICK UP BASKETBALL GAMES OR, UM, COFFEE WITH A COP IS NOT REACHING THE YOUNG PEOPLE. 
          IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S, WE NEED TO HAVE SOMETHING GUIDED MORE TOWARDS, I MEAN, WE JUST HAD WHAT LAST MONTH THE HOUSTON POLICE DEPARTMENT HAS STANDING BASKETBALL GAMES WITH THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY, UM, WHETHER YOU GO TO APARTMENT COMPLEXES AND, AND YOU KNOW, HAVE, YOU KNOW, PICK UP VOLLEYBALL, PICK UP BASKETBALL, YOU KNOW, TENNIS GAMES. 
          JUST, JUST HAVING A PRESENCE SAYING, HEY, WE'RE HERE FOR YOU. 
          WHAT CAN WE DO FOR YOUR PARTICULAR SITUATION? I THINK WE NEED TO DO A LOT MORE COMMUNITY OUTREACH. 
          AND SO WITH THAT MM-HMM . 
          THAT HAS BEEN HAPPENING. 
          GOOD MATTER OF FACT, I HAVE AN OFFICER THAT'S ON A KIND OF OJI, 'CAUSE HE SPRAINED HIS BACK PLAYING BASKETBALL . 
          AND THEN, UH, ALSO WE HAVE BEEN PUTTING A LOT OF STUFF ON THE FACEBOOK. 
          YOU NOTICED WITH THAT WE'VE HAD, UH, OFFICERS SKATEBOARDING. 
          YEAH. 
          WITH, 
          [01:15:01]
WITH KIDS OUT THERE. 
          UH, OF COURSE THEY GOT A LOT OF COMMENT THAT STICK WITH YOUR DAY JOB. 
          THEY WORKED THE BEST SKATERS ANYMORE, BUT THEY USED TO BE SKATERS THAT, YEAH. 
          SO THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PUTTING ON THE NEXT AGENDA. 
          SO THIS IS ALL INFORMATION THAT YOU CAN PROVIDE AT THE NEXT AGENDA, BUT JUST STAY ON TOPIC WITH THE THING WE'RE JUST PROVIDING, WHAT THEY WANNA TALK ABOUT AT THE NEXT MEETING. 
          SO WE'VE GOT A LOT OF GOOD INFORMATION EVIDENTLY ABOUT THAT. 
          GOOD. 
          AND I THINK TO, TO DR. 
          STANKY'S POINT, UM, I, I, I THINK IN, IN REGARD TO THE COMMUNITY OUTREACH, I THINK US UTILIZING MORE SOCIAL MEDIA, UH, PLATFORMS VERSUS JUST THE, JUST FACEBOOK, BUT BRANCH OUT INTO THE INSTAGRAM, THINGS OF THAT NATURE A LITTLE BIT MORE. 
          I HAVEN'T SEEN MUCH OUT THERE. 
          AND I KNOW THAT I'M TRYING TO GET INTO INSTAGRAM, BUT THAT SEEMS TO BE THE, IF YOU'RE 20 AND YOUNGER, THAT'S WHERE TO GO. 
          BUT I'M NOT THERE YET. 
          BUT TIKTOK VIDEOS,  TIKTOK AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF. 
          SO THAT, THAT, JUST TO ADD TO DR. 
          SAN TANSKY'S POINT. 
          SO IS THERE ANY OTHER, ANYTHING ELSE ANYBODY WANTS TO ADD? I THINK ON OUR, ON OUR OUTREACH, UM, SO IT'S DIFFICULT TO ACHIEVE THIS, BUT IN TALKING WITH THE COMMUNITY, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S EASIER TO PICK UP ON THE, WITH THE CHILDREN OR THE YOUNGER, YOUNGER ADULTS WITH SKATEBOARDING. 
          AND THAT WAS A, ACTUALLY A VERY GREAT THING I THINK FROM THAT ASPECT. 
          'CAUSE IT REALLY GOT THEIR MIND WORKING. 
          BUT IT'S THAT DEMOGRAPHIC A LITTLE ABOVE THAT. 
          THE TEENAGE TO YOUNG ADULT, I THINK THAT WE HAVE A DIFFICULTY BECAUSE THEY HAVE EITHER A MINDSET THAT'S PREDETERMINED OR WHATEVER THE STORY IS. 
          SO WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT HOW DO WE REACH THAT DEMOGRAPHIC BECAUSE THAT'S, THAT'S REALLY THE FIREBRAND PEOPLE WHO WILL, UM, TAKE UP A CAUSE NOT UNDERSTANDING THE, THE DEPTH NECESSARILY OR THINK THEY KNOW THE DEPTH. 
          AND SO WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO REACH THOSE FOLKS, HAVE THEM HAVE A BETTER RELATIONSHIP WITH PD THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS. 
          SO, AND I, I'M NOT SURE HOW TO DO THAT. 
          I'VE BEEN MEETING WITH, UH, ADULTS THROUGH THE, ALL THROUGH MY, MY AREA, BUT A LOT OF THE KIDS DON'T COME. 
          SO IT'S, I, I STILL HAVEN'T FOUND A WAY TO GET TO THEM OR, OR FIND OUT WHERE THEY ARE TO GET TO WHERE THEY ARE. 
          SO I THINK WE, WE NEED TO HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT HOW WE CAN HELP DRIVE THAT TO HELP PD BUILD THOSE BRIDGES. 
          OKAY. 
          SO THAT FALLS UNDER THE COMMUNITY RELATIONS YEAH. 
          PIECE AS WELL. 
          YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          SO WE HAVE COMMUNITY RELATIONS, WE HAVE MENTAL HEALTH SLASH COMMUNICATIONS. 
          OKAY. 
          EMERGENCY COMMUNICATIONS, EMERGENCY COMMUNICATION, DISPATCH, BAYTOWN, CITIZEN POLICE ACADEMY, CORPORAL HLAS, USE OF FORCE. 
          YOU HAVE USE OF FORCE. 
          YES. 
          COMMON DISPATCH. 
          USE OF FORCE AND COMMUNITY RELATIONS. 
          OKAY. 
          ARE THERE ANY OTHERS THAT WE WANT TO CONSIDER? THAT SOUNDS LIKE QUITE A THERE IS. 
          AND WE'LL KIND OF DO LIKE WE'VE TALKED BEFORE AS WE'LL GET WITH YOU IN BETWEEN AND DECIDE HOW MUCH, I MEAN, THIS IS A REALLY GOOD COMMITTEE IN TERMS OF HOW MUCH Y'ALL TALK AND DISCUSS. 
          AND SO IT DOESN'T TAKE TOO MANY ITEMS TO GET THROUGH YOUR HOUR OR TWO OF A MEETING. 
          SO YOU MAY GIVE US A SEV A LIST OF THINGS THAT'LL TAKE A COUPLE OF MEETINGS, WHICH IS FINE. 
          DO WE WANNA DO ANOTHER BRAINSTORMING LIKE WE DID BEFORE WITH THE, MAYBE REDO THE BUCKETS AND FOCUS OF THAT? IS THAT, IS THAT, OR DO WE WANT TO WE GOT ENOUGH BUCKETS. 
          , I'M JUST ASKING. 
          I WANNA MAKE SURE WE STAY ON TRACK SO WE DON'T, YOU KNOW, NOT MEANDERING ALL OVER THE PLACE. 
          WE'RE STILL IN THE BUCKETS. 
          YOU'RE STILL IN THEM. 
          WE'RE STILL IN THE BUCKETS. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          YEAH. 
          'CAUSE THAT'S TRANSPARENCY, ACCOUNTABILITY, TRAINING AND DEVELOPMENT. 
          YEP. 
          AND POSITIVE AND POSITIVE ENGAGEMENT. 
          THOSE FALL WITHIN THOSE BUCKETS. 
          A OUT OF THE BUCKET. 
          OKAY. 
          ANY, ANYTHING ELSE FOR THE NEXT, HOW MANY OF US DO YOU WANT FUTURE MEET CITY COUNCIL MEETING? EVERYBODY FOR THE MANAGER'S REPORT, IF YOU'RE UP TO THAT YET. 
          YES. 
          THE MANAGER'S REPORT IS, 
          [3. MANAGER'S REPORT]
UH, SO THAT'S NEXT. 
          YOUR NEXT SCHEDULED MEETING IS SCHEDULED FOR MAY 25TH AT SIX O'CLOCK IN THE BAYTOWN POLICE ACADEMY. 
          AND THAT'S TWO DAYS BEFORE THE COUNCIL MEETING. 
          SO ANYTHING WE NEED TO DO DIFFERENTLY THERE? ARE YOU OKAY WITH THE BRIEFING OR WILL THEY NEED TO DO ANYTHING ELSE FOR THE COUNCIL MEETING? NO, FOR THE ON AT THE MEETING TWO DAYS BEFORE? NO, NO. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT'S JUST THE, SO WE'LL, WE'LL MEET ON THE 25TH AND THEN YOU'LL HAVE YOUR COUNSEL UPDATE ON THE 27TH, AND I ASSUME YOU'LL BE PRE, YOU'LL BE MAKING THE PRESENTATION PASTOR MONTGOMERY, AND YOU'LL HAVE CHIEF HOLDEN SITTING RIGHT OVER THERE. 
          , I THINK Y'ALL SHOULD BE VERY PROUD OF THE MEETINGS THAT YOU HAVE AND, AND THE CONVERSATIONS THAT YOU HAVE. 
          AND I GUESS YOUR UPDATES TO COUNCIL IS YOU TELLING THEM KIND OF THE SERIES OF THINGS THAT YOU'VE DONE, THE TRANSITION FROM CAC TO BPAC, THE BUCKETS OF CONCERN, WHAT YOU CONSIDER THE TOP PRIORITIES, AND THEN THE CHART THAT KAREN PRESENTED TONIGHT ACTUALLY SHOWS AN AWFUL LOT OF WORK SINCE Y'ALL HAVE STARTED. 
          SO KUDOS TO ALL OF YOU. 
          YEAH, YOU GUYS HAVE DONE A GREAT JOB. 
          [01:20:01]
SO THAT MAY 25TH, IS THAT THE FAST TRAIN? THE FAT TRAIN? THAT'S FAST TRAIN. 
          AND WHAT TIME COUNCIL MEETING OR MEETING? THE COUNCIL MEETING IS ON 27TH AT SIX 30. 
          SIX 30. 
          COUNCIL MEETING IS ON 27TH AT SIX 30. 
          AND SO WE'LL JUST SIT IN THE CROWD SUPPORTING YOU, CORRECT? I WOULDN'T SAY SUPPORTING, SORT OF BEING WITH ME AND SPIRIT AND MIND BY AND SOUL. 
          BUT YOU WANT, BUT WE, WE NEED TO BE THERE, CORRECT? YES, MA'AM. 
          I, YOU KNOW IF YOU CAN, YEAH. 
          CAN YOU ZOOM IT? ? OKAY. 
          CLOCK ON THE WALL SAYS 7 26 HOUR AND 26 MINUTES. 
          I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN. 
          SECOND BY MY FIRST AND SECOND ALL NIGHT LONG . 
          WE WILL OFFICIALLY ADJOURN OUR MEETING AT 7 26. 
          THANK YOU GUYS.
* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.