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SO NOW CALL THIS MEETING, UH, THIS WORK SESSION OF THE BAYTOWN CITY COUNCIL ORDERED IS THURSDAY, APRIL 22ND.
IT'S 5:36 PM WE ARE IN BAYTOWN CITY HALL.
[a. Receive and discuss a presentation about the Asphalt Art Project. ]
DO HAVE A QUORUM.SO OUR FIRST ITEM IS RECEIVE AND DISCUSS A PRESENTATION ABOUT THE ASPHALT ART PROJECT.
LET ME SEE THIS PULLED UP REAL QUICK.
SABRINA, WE CAN'T SEE ANYTHING.
SO I'M GONNA SHARE WITH YOU GUYS OUR COMMUNITY ASPHALT ART PROJECT THAT IS COMING UP.
THIS ACTUALLY STARTED IN LATE 2019.
SO WE APPLIED FOR A BLOOMBERG ASPHALT ART GRANT AND WE REALLY WORKED WITH OUR ACE DISTRICT, OUR PUBLIC ART VISIONING COMMITTEE, THE ART LEAGUE, TO REALLY CREATE A ROBUST APPLICATION.
SO WE IDENTIFIED OUR LOCATION, WHICH IS GONNA BE SOUTH ASHEVILLE STREET FROM PIERCE TO TEXAS AVENUE.
AND WE CHOSE THIS FOR A NUMBER OF REASONS BECAUSE IT IS, YOU KNOW, LOCATED IN THE DOWNTOWN ARTS DISTRICT.
IT'S NEAR TOWN SQUARE, SO IT'S GREAT FOR EVENTS, YOU KNOW, TO BE A BIG DRAW.
UM, BUT ALSO THIS IS A LOW TRAFFIC STREET.
SO IT WAS A GOOD, UM, OPPORTUNITY 'CAUSE WE WILL HAVE TO CLOSE IT FOR A SMALL AMOUNT OF TIME.
SO WE SUBMITTED THE APPLICATION LATE 2019.
2020, CAME AROUND, YOU KNOW, BLOOMBERG RAN FOR PRESIDENT.
A LOT OF THINGS HAPPENED AND WE DID NOT GET THE GRANT, BUT THAT WAS OKAY BECAUSE WE REALIZED THROUGH WRITING IT THAT WE COULD ACTUALLY DO IT IN-HOUSE.
NOW THAT WE HAD ALL THE TOOLS.
SO HERE ARE A FEW EXAMPLES OF WHAT THIS PROJECT COULD LOOK LIKE.
THESE ARE FROM SOME PRETTY BIG CITIES.
UH, THE TOP RIGHT IS FROM NEW YORK.
THE BUTTERFLIES ARE IN ASHEVILLE.
SO WE TOOK THESE PICTURES AND WE MET WITH THE ACE DISTRICT AND WE DID A LITTLE BIT OF A MINI ART WALK.
SO WE HAD THEM WALK AND LOOK AT SEVERAL DIFFERENT TYPES OF ASPHALT ART.
AND WE HAD THEM VOTE ON THE ONES THAT THEY LIKED THE BEST, THE ONES, UM, THAT THEY WANTED TO SEE IN THEIR AREA.
YOU KNOW, SOMETHING THAT WOULD REALLY BRING PEOPLE TO THE DOWNTOWN ARTS DISTRICT.
WE ALSO HAD THEM VOTE ON THE ONES THEY DIDN'T LIKE.
SO WE HAD A REALLY CLEAR IDEA OF LIKE, WHAT WE WERE GOING FOR, WHAT WE DIDN'T WANT TO GO FOR.
SO WE TOOK THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS AND WE GAVE THEM TO OUR ARTIST.
AND SO HE RECEIVED THIS A LITTLE OVER A WEEK AGO.
AND SO WE SHOULD BE GETTING OUR ART BACK FROM HIM, SOME DESIGNS, BUT THEY REALLY WANTED TO SEE ALL OVER COLOR, BRIGHT COLORS.
THEY KIND OF WANTED IT TO HAVE DIFFERENT PATTERNS.
SO AS YOU'RE WALKING DOWN THE STREET, YOU'RE NOT LOOKING AT THE SAME THING EVERY TIME.
ALSO, IT'S GREAT FOR PHOTOS THAT WAY.
AND THEY REALLY WANTED TO INCORPORATE THE WORD BAYTOWN OR MAYBE DOWNTOWN ARTS DISTRICT OR SOME SYMBOLS IN THERE THAT REALLY TIED IT INTO THE BAYTOWN COMMUNITY.
WE'RE WAITING ON THE DESIGNS, UH, SHOULD BE HERE IN ABOUT A WEEK FOR OUR PUBLIC ART VISIONING COMMITTEE TO LOOK AT.
BUT FOR THE PROJECT DETAILS, IT IS A VERY LARGE SPACE.
SO WE ARE TURNING THIS INTO A TWO DAY, UH, PAINTING EVENT.
UH, FRIDAY, WE'RE GONNA HOST, LIKE CITY TEAM BUILDING.
WE'RE GONNA HAVE DEPARTMENTS COME OUT FOR SHIFTS AND BE ABLE TO PAINT ON THE STREET.
UM, KIND OF A BROWN BAG FEEL IS WHAT WE'RE GOING FOR THAT DAY.
AND THEN ON SATURDAY WE'RE OPENING UP TO COMMUNITY VOLUNTEERS.
SO THIS PROJECT WILL BE POSTED ON VOLUNTEER CONNECT FOR PEOPLE TO SIGN UP IN SHIFTS ALL DAY ON SATURDAY.
WE WILL HAVE QUITE A FEW VOLUNTEERS ROTATING THROUGH, BUT BECAUSE OF HOW LARGE THE SPACE IS AND THE FACT THAT IT NEEDS MULTIPLE LAYERS FOR THE BRIGHT COLORS, IT'S GONNA TAKE A LOT OF PEOPLE.
SO OUR PROJECT TIMELINE, IT'S GOING TO KIND OF KICK OFF PRETTY SOON.
AND THE REASON FOR THAT IS THAT WE WANT THIS ASPHALT ART PROJECT TO BE READY FOR ARTS AND EATS, WHICH IS ON MAY 22ND.
AND IF YOU'RE NOT FAMILIAR, IT'S THE SIDEWALK ART AND THE FOOD TRUCKS AND JUST A WHOLE LOT OF FUN IN THE DOWNTOWN ARTS DISTRICT.
SO TO DO THAT, WE'RE GONNA PAINT THE WEEKEND BEFORE SO THAT IT'S NICE AND PRETTY AND READY FOR ARTS AND NEEDS.
BUT IT DOES REQUIRE SOME STREET CLOSURES, LIKE I MENTIONED.
SO THAT'LL START AT THE BEGINNING OF MAY.
AND THEN THE ARTISTS WILL SKETCH OUT THE DESIGN.
I SAY SKETCH, IT'S GONNA BE PAINT AND IT'S GONNA BE GIANT ROLLERS, BUT YOU'LL SEE THE DESIGN LAID OUT FOR ABOUT A WEEK WEATHER, DEPENDING.
AND THEN WE'LL HAVE OUR CITY OF BAYTOWN PAINTING DAY ON FRIDAY, COMMUNITY-WIDE PAINTING ON SATURDAY.
AND THEN BY THAT TIME IT SHOULD BE COMPLETE.
IF THERE'S ANY TOUCHUPS THAT NEED TO BE HA UM, NEED TO BE DONE, OUR, UM, ARTISTS WILL TAKE CARE OF THOSE BEFORE ARTS NEEDS.
AND THEN OTHERWISE WE'LL BE GOOD TO GO FOR THAT SATURDAY.
I WOULD LOVE FOR YOU GUYS TO COME OUT FRIDAY
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OR SATURDAY.UH, ANY WHATEVER TIME WORKS FOR Y'ALL, IT'LL BE GOOD.
UH, I CAN TAKE ANY QUESTIONS FOR YOU NOW.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR MS. MARTIN COMMENTS? I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, BUT I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE GREAT.
I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO WHAT THEY CHOOSE.
UM, SO I'LL BE HAPPY WITH ANYTHING.
SO
UM, I GUESS JUST CURIOUS, HOW LONG OF A LIFESPAN WILL IT HAVE? AND DO WE ANTICIPATE KIND OF REFRESHING IT EVERY SO OFTEN? OR, OR WILL IT STAY THERE UNTIL IT FADES AND THEN GO AWAY? OR WILL THAT BE SOMETHING THAT'S ONGOING? SO THERE'S A COUPLE DIFFERENT OPTIONS THERE, BUT OUR PLAN IS TO KIND OF KEEP THE STREET CLOSED FOR THREE OR FOUR WEEKS SO THAT PEOPLE CAN REALLY COME OUT AND ENJOY IT.
UM, I THINK THAT THERE'S SOMETHING KIND OF IN THE PLANS TO LOOK AT, LIKE IF THE STREET IS PLAUSIBLE FOR CLOSING MORE PERMANENTLY.
UM, BUT AS FAR AS LONGEVITY OF THE PAINT, IT SHOULD LAST, I SAY SHOULD A COUPLE YEARS.
UM, IT'S A LOW TRAFFIC AREA, 50 TO A HUNDRED CARS A DAY, SO IT'S NOT GONNA WEAR AND TEAR AS MUCH.
UM, OUR ARTIST WHO'S HELPING US BE OUR TECHNICAL ADVISOR FOR DAY OF, HE'S DONE CROSSWALKS AT HOUSTON, SO HE'S KIND OF PLAYED OUT WITH LIKE THE DIFFERENT TYPES OF PAINT AND WHAT KIND OF EXTRA ADDITIVES, YOU KNOW, GLOSS, SKID, SKID REPAIR, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
UM, BUT HE'S GONNA BE WORKING WITH US TO MAKE SURE THE LONGEVITY OF THE PROJECT IT, THAT IT LASTS FOR A WHILE.
BUT IF IT DOES START TO FADE, YOU KNOW, WE'LL, WE'LL, WE'LL FIGURE SOMETHING OUT.
ANYTHING ELSE? WHERE DO, WHERE DO THE TIMES OF THE PAINTING SESSIONS? SO IT'S GONNA BE A FULL DAY.
SO FOR THE CITY DAY, WE'RE GONNA START AT EIGHT 30 WITH OUR SHIFTS, AND IT SHOULD PROBABLY GO TILL ABOUT SIX AND THEN ON SATURDAY THINKING EIGHT O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING.
AND THEN WE'LL GO TILL I'M, HE SAID TILL SUNDOWN.
BUT I DON'T WANNA, I DON'T WANNA PUT THAT OUT THERE YET, BUT I'M THINKING AT LEAST LATE AFTERNOON.
SO I'M THINKING TWO HOUR SHIFTS FOR OUR VOLUNTEERS WILL BE THE BEST WAY TO, IT'S GONNA BE SMALLER GROUPS, 20 TO 30, DEPENDING ON WHAT AREAS WE'RE DOING, BUT I DON'T WANNA BRING IN TOO MANY PEOPLE.
WE'LL HAVE WET PAINT, SO WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO SECTION OFF AS THINGS DRY THROUGHOUT THE DAY AND START THEM OVER AT THE OTHER END.
LEMME MAKE SURE OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS HAD ANY COMMENTS.
UM, WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN THE IN BETWEEN DAYS TO MAKE SURE THAT NO ONE COMES IN AND VANDALIZES THAT AREA IN BETWEEN, UM, FRIDAY NIGHT AND SATURDAY MORNING WITH THE DIFFERENT GROUPS COMING IN WITH THE DIFFERENT GROUPS, THAT IS GONNA TAKE A LITTLE BIT OF FAITH IN OUR COMMUNITY THAT IT WON'T HAPPEN, BUT IF IT DOES, WE'LL, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO PAINT OVER IT REGARDLESS.
SO THAT'LL BE IN PLACE WITH OUR ARTISTS.
HE HAS A SCHEMATIC, OR WHAT I'M TOLD IS WE'LL WORK FROM A SCHEMATIC LIKE GRIDS.
AND SO IF THERE'S AN AREA THAT IS VANDALIZED, THEN HE'LL WORK TO REIT IT THE WAY IT NEEDS TO BE.
AND WE'LL START PAINTING OVER THAT SAME SATURDAY.
WE'RE, WE'RE PRETTY, UH, WE'RE PRETTY ENCOURAGED.
UH, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE HISTORY OF UMBRELLA ALLEY, THAT WOULD'VE BEEN PRIMED FOR SOME TYPE OF VANDALISM, BUT, UH, IT'S ENDURED PRETTY WELL.
I THINK WHEN THEY SEE THIS, MOST OF THEM LEAVE IT ALONE, CRUSH THE FEVERS.
MS. ADO, SO I KNOW YOU'RE PUTTING IT ON THE VOLUNTEER CONNECT MM-HMM
BUT ARE WE ACTIVELY WORKING WITH LIKE THE ART DEPARTMENTS OVER AT THE HIGH SCHOOL OR IN COLLEGE TO TRY TO GET A GROUP OF THOSE STUDENTS TO COME OUT AS WELL? ABSOLUTELY.
SO WE HAVEN'T POSTED IT ON VOLUNTEER CONNECT YET, BUT ONCE THAT LINK IS LIVE, WE'LL SEND IT TO ALL THE G-C-C-I-C SCHOOL TEACHERS OR ART TEACHERS AND, YOU KNOW, WORK WITH THEIR, I KNOW THERE'S AP ART PROGRAMS, THINGS LIKE THAT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE AWARE.
UM, LEE COLLEGE AND THE ART LEAGUE ARE BOTH PART OF THE PUBLIC ART VISIONING COMMITTEE, SO WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE DISPERSING IT TO THEIR GROUPS AS WELL.
UM, THERE, IT'S LIKE A BAYTOWN PHOTO CLUB TOO, SO WE'VE REACHED OUT TO THEM.
WE'LL REACH OUT TO THEM AS WELL TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE INCLUDED.
ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS? UH, I THINK IT'S A GREAT PROJECT.
I THINK IT'LL CERTAINLY, UM, BE AN ADDED, UH, ADDED ATTRACTION TO THE TOWN SQUARE AREA.
I GUESS MY CONCERN WOULD BE JUST FROM A LITTLE, LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE, I WOULD LIKE, I'LL ASK STAFF TO, UM, PLEASE PLACE SOME BARRIERS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE A SAFE, SECURE SITE FOR WHEN PEOPLE ARE SITTING ON THEIR KNEES AND PAINTING AND OTHER STUFF.
SO WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT, UM, WE PUT SOME BARRIERS OUT THERE AND I WOULD LIKE US TO EXPLORE, UH, MAYBE SOME, SOME, UH, WHERE WE CAN PUT BOLLARDS WHEN NEEDED AND TAKE 'EM OFF WHEN THEY'RE NOT.
YEAH, WE, WE WILL BE LOOKING INTO THAT.
UM, THE PLAN IS TO GET IT PERMANENTLY CLOSED AND WE'VE GOT A LITTLE PROCESS WE GOTTA GO THROUGH FOR THAT.
BUT YEAH, WE'LL BE LOOKING AT THE BALLARDS AND OBVIOUSLY TALKING TO COUNCIL MEMBER PRESLEY, MAKING SURE THOSE ARE AS AESTHETICALLY PLEASING AS AS POSSIBLE DOWN THERE.
BUT I'M JUST LOOKING AT IT FROM, NO, OUR VOLUNTEERS WILL BE KEPT VERY SAFE DURING THE, THE EVENT.
I WANNA, I WANNA ENSURE THAT FOR THE MEANTIME, BUT LONG TERM, IT'S JUST, YOU SEE WHEN PEOPLE HAVE THESE GATHERINGS AND JUST THINGS HAPPEN AND I DON'T, I DON'T WANNA SEE THAT HAPPEN HERE IN THAT AREA.
SO WE CAN PUT SOME SAFETY PIPE DEVICES.
ALRIGHT, ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? WELL, THANK YOU, MA'AM.
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THANK YOU.[b. Discuss the City's traffic calming policy.]
NEXT WE HAVE ITEM ONE B, DISCUSS THE CITY'S TRAFFIC CALMING POLICY.MR. JOHNSON, GOOD EVENING COUNCIL MEMBERS AND, UH, MAYOR, UH, THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME.
UM, I'LL MAKE THIS AS QUICK AND, UM, AS, UH, NOT BORING AS POSSIBLE.
UM, GOOD
UM, WE'RE GONNA GO OVER THE RESOLUTIONS THAT ARE CURRENTLY GOVERN OUR TRAFFIC CALMING POLICIES.
EXPLAIN A LITTLE BIT OF WHAT TRAFFIC CALMING IS, UM, OUR PROPOSED POLICY AND A TRAFFIC CALMING TOOLBOX, UM, AND WHAT OUR CURRENT PROCEDURE IS UNDER, UH, RESOLUTION 1390.
AND THEN GO OVER THE, UH, RECOMMENDED CHANGES TO THE CURRENT PROCEDURES AND POLICY.
UM, RESOLUTION 1210 FOR SOME OF YOU WHO ARE AROUND FOR THIS, THAT ESTABLISHED THE POLICY FOR SPEED HUMPS.
THEN, UH, TWO AND A HALF YEARS LATER, IT WAS, UM, SUSPENDED INDEFINITELY.
UH, THEN A COUPLE YEARS LATER, UH, RESOLUTION 1390 CAME OUT AND ESTABLISHED AN ACTUALLY EXCEPTIONALLY GOOD TRAFFIC CALMING POLICY AND PROCEDURES.
AND IT IS STILL CURRENTLY IN EFFECT, UM, TRAFFIC CALMING IS INTENDED TO BE A SELF-REINFORCING, UM, TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT, UM, UH, APPLICATION.
IT'S NOT INTENDED TO BE, UM, TRAFFIC CONTROL.
SO IF YOU CAN GET A TICKET THAT'S NOT TRAFFIC CALMING, UM, TRAFFIC CALMING TYPICALLY ADDRESSES TWO ISSUES, SPEEDS AND VOLUMES.
UM, AND THE MOST COMMON MEASURES FOR, UH, IMPLEMENTING TRAFFIC CALMING ARE PHYSICAL ONES BECAUSE THEY HAVE THE, THE BIGGEST BANG FOR THE BUCK ON, UH, CHANGING THE BEHAVIOR THAT NEEDS TO BE CHANGED.
UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE OF IN THE PROPOSED POLICY IS THAT IT IS NOT TREATED AS A SPOT APPLICATION, WHICH IS PART OF THE PROBLEM WITH THE ORIGINAL SPEED HUMP POLICY.
UM, IT WAS NOT, IT DID NOT TREAT AREAS AS A SYSTEM.
THAT'S THE REASON WHY WE HAVE ONE STREET THAT HAS THESE REALLY HORRIBLE SPEED HUMPS AND NOWHERE ELSE AROUND IT HAS IT.
SO ALL THE TRAFFIC AROUND THAT STREET INCREASED, UM, WE WILL ARE ANTICIPATING ONLY APPLYING TRAFFIC CALMING TO THE LOCAL STREETS, RESIDENTIAL STREETS.
AND WHAT WE HAVE STARTED CALLING, UM, RESIDENTIAL COLLECTORS, WHICH AREN'T A FULL BLOWN COLLECTOR, IT'S JUST A HIGHER CLASS IN A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD.
SO IT'S NOT INTENDED TO GO, IT'S NOT INTENDED TO BE A GARTH OR AN ARCH OR ARCHER OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
IT'S INTENDED TO BE, UM, THE SMALLER STREETS LIKE KENTUCKY OR CAROLINA FOURTH, UH, BAY OAKS HARBOR DRIVE, THOSE WOULD BE RESIDENTIAL COLLECTORS.
UM, AND OF COURSE THERE ARE TWO CLASSES OF TRAFFIC, CALMING NEEDS, EXCESSIVE SPEEDS, EXCESSIVE VOLUMES.
UM, THE POLICY OR THE RECOMMENDED POLICY IS TO, UM, UH, REQUIRE A MINIMUM OF 500 VEHICLES PER DAY FOR, IN ORDER FOR TRAFFIC CALMING TO BE APPLIED, A MINIMUM OF 500, UH, VEHICLES PER DAY AND A MAXIMUM OF 1500 PER DAY FOR THE SPEED ISSUES.
THE REASON FOR THAT IS IF YOU HAVE A RESIDENTIAL STREET AND YOU'RE SEEING MORE THAN 1500 CARS PER DAY, YOU DON'T HAVE A SPEED PROBLEM, YOU HAVE A VOLUME PROBLEM.
UM, AND SO IT WOULD KICK IT OVER TO A VOLUME TRAFFIC CALMING SITUATION.
UM, BUT FOR THE SPEEDS, IN ORDER TO INITIATE THEM, IT WOULD BE, UM, YOU'D HAVE TO HAVE AT LEAST 15% OF THE, UM, TRAFFIC VOLUMES DURING A FOUR HOUR OFF-PEAK PERIOD.
THESE ARE GUIDELINES FOR HOW TO DO THIS TYPE OF STUDY.
UM, AND THE DRIVER MUST BE TRAVELING FIVE MILES PER HOUR OR MORE.
SO IF WE'RE REGISTERING 17% AND THEY'RE ALL DOING THREE MILES PER HOUR OVER THE SPEED LIMIT, THAT WOULDN'T BE CONSIDERED A, A NEED.
BUT IF WE HAD 17% AND THEY WERE ALL DOING EIGHT MILES PER HOUR, THEN THAT WOULD BE CONSIDERED A NEED.
UM, AS WE SAID BEFORE, THERE ARE TWO MAIN CATEGORIES.
SPEED, UH, REDUCING, VOLUME REDUCING.
THIS IS THE LIST OF, UM, TRAFFIC CALMING TREATMENTS THAT WE, THAT ARE FAIRLY STANDARD IN THE COUNTRY, UM, AND THAT WE WOULD BE INCLUDING IN THE TOOLBOX.
UM, EACH ONE IS, HAS A PRIMARY ASSOCIATION FOR WHAT IT DOES, SPEED OR VOLUME.
UM, BUT IT DOES HAVE AN ANCILLARY EFFECT OF REDUCING THE OTHER AS WELL.
UM, BUT THESE ARE ACTUALLY THE SPEED CUSHIONS THAT WERE INSTALLED IN PINEHURST.
UM, AND THE BENEFIT OF THE SPEED CUSHIONS, OF COURSE, IS THAT EMERGENCY VEHICLES CAN ZIP RIGHT OVER THEM BECAUSE THEIR AXLE WIDTHS ARE
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WIDE ENOUGH TO MISS THE, UH, THE SPEED CUSHIONS, WHEREAS REGULAR VEHICLES WON'T HAVE, UH, WON'T BE ABLE TO MISS IT.AND, UH, TEXTURE PAVEMENTS, OF COURSE, THE BIG ISSUE WITH THOSE WOULD BE, UM, THE NOISE, THE POTENTIAL NOISE ISSUE, UM, TRAFFIC CIRCLES AS OPPOSED TO ROUNDABOUTS.
UM, CHICAS, WHICH FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO ARE AROUND WHEN, UH, BEFORE TEXAS AVENUE WAS REVAMPED, THIS IS WHAT IT LOOKED LIKE.
UM, NECK DOWNS ARE A REALLY GOOD WAY OF, UH, ENHANCING PEDESTRIANS, UH, SAFETY AND ALSO WORKING OUT, UH, ROAD DIETS AND, UM, PROVIDING FOR, UM, UH, ON STREET PARKING.
UM, CHOKERS DO THE SAME THING.
IT'S JUST MID-BLOCK AS OPPOSED TO AT THE INTERSECTIONS.
UH, CENTER ISLAND NARROWING IS AN INTERESTING PROSPECT.
THAT'S ACTUALLY A PICTURE, UM, OVER IN THE, THE HOUSTON AREA.
UM, IT IS A REALLY GOOD WAY OF CONTROLLING BOTH SPEED AND VOLUMES.
UM, THE FULL CLOSURES, OF COURSE, WE'RE GETTING INTO THE, UM, THE VOLUME REDUCING JUST KIND OF MAKES SENSE.
YOU CLOSE THE ROAD, IT'S SLOW, IT REDUCES THE VOLUMES.
HALF CLOSURES, SEMI DIVERTERS, SAME THING.
DIAGONAL DIVERTERS, MEDIAN BARRIERS, FOREST TURN ISLANDS, LIKE I SAID, I'M SORRY, THIS IS, SOME OF IT'S REALLY BORING.
UM, THIS TREATMENT MATRIX IS, UH, AN EXPLANATION OF WHAT, UM, TREATMENTS WE WOULD ALLOW ON WHICH CLASSIFICATION OF THE ROADWAYS AND WHICH ONES WE WOULDN'T ALLOW.
UM, AND GENERALLY IT'S BECAUSE OF THEIR VARIOUS DRAWBACKS THAT WE WOULDN'T ALLOW THEM, LIKE, UM, THE, UH, THE TEXTURED PAVEMENTS, WE WOULDN'T ALLOW THAT ON THE LOCAL OR RESIDENTIAL STREET BECAUSE OF THE POTENTIAL NOISE ISSUE.
UM, THE EXISTING PROCEDURE IS, THIS IS ACTUALLY REALLY COOL, WHEN I SAID THAT IT WAS THAT, THAT OUR POLICY IS EXCEPTIONAL.
THIS IS ONE OF THE BEST I'VE EVER SEEN.
I DON'T KNOW WHERE THEY FOUND IT OR HOW THEY WROTE IT, BUT IT HIT EVERYTHING IT NEEDED TO HIT.
IT'S GOT A FEW THINGS THAT NEED TO BE UPDATED BECAUSE IT IS 20 YEARS OLD, BUT IT, IT, IT'S ACTUALLY EXCEPTIONALLY GOOD.
IT IS A VERY RESIDENT LED AND RESIDENT ORIENTED PROGRAM.
ALMOST EVERYTHING IS GUIDED BY A RESIDENTIAL GROUP, AND SO THEY, UM, THEY HAVE THE POWER AND WE JUST GUIDE THEM, WHICH IS ONE OF THE BEST THINGS EVER BECAUSE THEY'RE THE ONES WHO NEED IT AND WANT IT.
HERE ARE ALL THE SPECIFIC STEPS THAT ARE OUTLINED IN THE, UH, IN 1390.
UH, AGAIN, IT'S BEEN, UH, INITIATED BY RESIDENTS.
THE TRAFFIC ENGINEER MEETS WITH THE RESIDENTS TO DEFINE THE AREAS THAT ARE IN THAT ARE IMPACTED.
AND THEN WE DO AN INITIAL INVESTIGATION.
UH, IF WE FIND THAT THERE PROBABLY IS CAUSE FOR IT, THEN WE LET THEM KNOW AND THEY APPOINT A THREE TO FIVE MEMBER, UM, RESIDENTIAL TRAFFIC TEAM TO ACT AS THE STEERING COMMITTEE.
UM, AND THEY, THE BIG THING TO TAKE AWAY FROM THIS IS THAT THEY DO HAVE TO HAVE A PETITION OF THE PROPERTY OWNERS AND THEY HAVE TO HAVE WITHIN THE IMPACTED AREA, AND THEY HAVE TO HAVE AT LEAST 50% SUPPORT FROM THE, UM, PROPERTY OWNERS.
UM, IF THEY GET THAT IS SUBMITTED TO US.
AND THEN WE DO OUR TRAFFIC STUDY, WHICH INCLUDES ALL THE DATA THAT WE NEED TO GET TO DETERMINE WHAT'S GOING ON.
THEN WHEN WE FINISH A TRAFFIC STUDY, WE REVIEW IT WITH THE, UM, RESIDENT TEAM AND EXPLAIN WHETHER IT DOES OR DOES NOT MEET THE REQUIREMENTS.
UM, IF IT DOESN'T MEET THE REQUIREMENTS, THEN THEY CAN'T REQUEST TRAFFIC CALMING AGAIN FOR THREE YEARS.
UM, IF IT DOES UU UNLESS OF COURSE WE SEE A CHANGE IN THE TRAFFIC PATTERNS AND SOMETHING SIGNIFICANT OCCURS, UM, THEN IF IT DOES MEET THE REQUIREMENTS, THEN UM, WE WORK WITH THE RESIDENT TEAM SO THAT THEY CAN COME UP WITH THEIR PLAN FOR HOW TO SOLVE THE, THE TRAFFIC CALMING ISSUES.
THEN ONCE THEY HAVE THAT DONE, UM, THEY'VE COME UP WITH THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD TRAFFIC CALMING PLAN.
WE ARRANGE FOR A PUBLIC MEETING WITH THE IMPACT AREA AND COME IN AND, UM, THE TRAFFIC ENGINEER EXPLAINS THE RESULTS OF THE STUDY AND SAYS, THIS IS WHAT WE FOUND.
AND THEN THE RESIDENT TEAM, THEY PRESENT THEIR TRAFFIC CALMING PLAN AND THEY GET FEEDBACK, UH, FROM THE PUBLIC MEETING.
THEN THEY HAVE TO GO AND GET A NEIGHBORHOOD ENDORSEMENT.
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A LOT OF THE, UM, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD TRAFFIC CALMING, HONESTLY.UM, IT, THIS IS THE TIPPING POINT FOR IT.
UM, THEY HAVE TO GET AN, UH, A TRUE PETITION, NOT JUST A CANVAS, AND THEY HAVE TO GET AT LEAST 70% APPROVAL.
UH, STAFF REVIEWS THE LANGUAGE, WE SEND THE LANGUAGE TO PLANNING AND ZONING.
THEY REVIEW IT AND APPROVE IT BEFORE THEY CAN, BEFORE THE, THE RESIDENT TEAM CAN SEND OUT THE, UM, THE PETITION.
UH, THEN OF COURSE STAFF WOULD VERIFY THE SIGNATURES.
UM, IF THE PETITION FAILS, THEN THE TRAFFIC, THE, THE RESIDENT TEAM CAN ACTUALLY REVISE THEIR TRAFFIC CALMING PLAN AND SEND IT OUT AGAIN.
UM, OR THEY CAN DECIDE, OKAY, THIS IS JUST TOO MUCH WORK, WE'RE QUITTING, WE'RE NOT DOING IT ANYMORE.
UM, IF THEY DECIDE TO SEND IT OUT AGAIN AND THE SECOND, UH, PETITION FAILS, THEN THE PROCESS IS TERMINATED AND THE THREE YEAR HIATUS, UH, COMES INTO PLAY AGAIN.
UM, IF IT DOES PASS AND THEY'VE GOT THE 70%, THEN WE SIT DOWN WITH THE RESIDENT TEAM TO DIS UH, TO DISCUSS, UH, FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES.
AND THEN OF COURSE, UM, THE PROJECT WOULD COME TO Y'ALL FOR APPROVAL BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY IT'S OUR STREETS AND IT'S YOUR STREETS.
UH, THEN THE DESIGN IMPLEMENTATION, UH, CITY MANAGER AND COUNCIL, UM, WILL ESTABLISH A PRIORITY LEVEL FOR EACH OF THE PROJECTS, ESPECIALLY IF IT'S GONNA BE USING CITY BAYTOWN FUNDS.
UM, AND IF IT IS USING OUR FUNDS, THEN IT GETS PUSHED TO THE NEXT YEAR'S FUNDING, UH, OR A BUDGET PROCESS.
IF IT DOESN'T, IF THEY'RE PAYING FOR IT THEMSELVES AND IT DOESN'T USE CITY FUNDS, OR IF THEY'VE GOT A GRANT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT TO DO IT, THEN WE JUST TREAT IT AS ANY OTHER RIGHT OF WAY PROJECT.
AND IT JUST HAS TO BE DESIGNED, MEETS ALL THE OTHER CRI MEET ALL THE OTHER CRITERIA THAT WE NORMALLY HAVE.
UM, THEN AFTER, IF IT, IT'S BEEN INSTALLED, UH, THREE TO SIX MONTHS LATER, WE DO ANOTHER TRAFFIC STUDY TO SEE ANY, UM, HOW EFFECTIVE IT WAS.
AND THAT HAS, UM, A COUPLE DECISION TREES IN THERE ABOUT WHAT TO DO IF IT'S NOT MEETING ITS, UM, INTENDED GOAL.
UH, MY REC OUR RECOMMENDED CHANGES ARE TO AND INCLUDE AN OPTION FOR, UH, IN THE, UM, THE INITIAL CANVASSING TO ALLOW A COUNCIL MEMBER TO PERFORM THE CANVAS, UH, HIS OR HERSELF.
UM, AND ESSENTIALLY THE COUNCIL MEMBER WOULD SIGN OFF ON THE CANVASSING WITH A COUNTER SIGNATURE FROM THE CITY MANAGER TO SAY THAT WE BELIEVE THAT THIS, THAT MORE THAN 50% OF THE PROPERTY OWNERS PLEASE BEGIN THE STUDY.
UM, THAT WOULD BE THAT THAT'S ONE OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS, UM, ON THE DATA COLLECTION, JUST UPDATED TO WHAT OUR CURRENT STANDARDS ARE AND WHAT I PROPOSED BEFORE, UM, CHANGE THE GROWTH MANAGEMENT AND DEVELOPMENT ADVISORY COMMISSION TO PLANNING AND ZONING IT'S CURRENT INCARNATION.
UM, REMOVE SOME OF THE, THE FUNDING EXAMPLES BECAUSE THEY'RE 20 YEARS OLD.
UM, REPLACE THE EXPLICIT PLAN SUBMITTAL REQUIREMENTS WITH OUR, UH, PERMIT SUBMITTAL PROCESSES.
UM, AND THEN THE, THE OVERALL CHANGES WOULD BE TO THE POLICY, ADDING THE TRAFFIC CALMING TOOLBOX SO THAT THEY KNOW WHAT'S IN THERE AND WHAT THE, THE OPTIONS ARE.
AND THEN ANYBODY CAN LOOK AT IT AND ACTUALLY HAVE IT AS A PUBLICATION, UM, REPEAL THE PREVIOUS RESOLUTIONS AND HAVE A BRAND NEW RESOLUTION.
DO Y'ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? YES, MA'AM.
SO WHEN THIS IS UPDATED MM-HMM
AND SENT THROUGH, AND, UM, IF WE START GETTING QUESTIONS ABOUT SPEEDING IN AN AREA, DO WE STILL GO TO RICK OR DO WE SIT DOWN WITH THEM AND GO OVER THIS PROCESS WITH THEM? WHAT IS THAT GONNA LOOK LIKE? SO, UM, THAT'S YOUR DECISION, HONESTLY.
HOWEVER YOU WANT TO WORK WITH YOUR CONSTITUENTS IS HOWEVER YOU WANT TO.
UM, BUT IF THIS IS APPROVED, THEN THIS WILL ALMOST BE A MANUAL THAT THEY CAN FOLLOW.
AND I TRY AND WRITE THINGS AS PLAIN ENGLISH AS POSSIBLE
HOWEVER, UM, IF YOU WANT TO DIRECT THEM TO US, THEN I CAN GUIDE THEM THROUGH THE PROCESS IN, IN SETTING UP WHAT THEY NEED TO DO.
UM, SOME OF MY STREETS ARE EXTREMELY LONG AND REALLY WHAT WARRANTED THEIR, UH, FOR THE SPEEDING WAS TO ADD, UM, STOP SIGNS.
I NOTICED THAT WAS NOT WITHIN THE PLAN.
SO IS THAT NOT CONSIDERED TRAFFIC CALMING OR CORRECT? UM, IT TRAFFIC CONTROL, LIKE STOP SIGNS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, UM, THOSE AREN'T TRAFFIC CALMING BECAUSE THOSE REQUIRE ENFORCEMENT AND
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TRAFFIC CALMING IS INTENDED TO FORCE THE DRIVERS TO REDUCE THEIR SPEEDS OR CHOOSE A DIFFERENT ROUTE, UM, ON THEIR OWN.SO THAT'S THE REASON WHY THE STREETS GET NECKED DOWN.
THE TEXTURED PAVEMENT PEOPLE DON'T LIKE FEELING THAT VIBRATION.
IT MAKES THEM NOT WANT TO BE ON THE STREETS OR TO SLOW DOWN TO REDUCE THE, THE EFFECT OF THE TRAFFIC CALMING, UH, TREATMENT.
UM, SO IT, IT, BUT OF COURSE, IN A LARGE PERCENTAGE OF OUR CITY, THERE ARE A LOT OF UNCONTROLLED INTERSECTIONS MM-HMM
AND WE DO NEED TO ADDRESS THOSE PROPERLY.
UM, AND SO SOME OF YOUR DISTRICT, WE NEEDED TO ADD THEM IN BECAUSE THERE WAS NOTHING.
UM, SO NO, THAT WOULDN'T BE TRAFFIC CALMING, BUT THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO DO ANYWAY.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? YES, MA'AM.
I, I FEEL LIKE I GET A LOT OF THIS IN MY DISTRICT, SO I REALLY APPRECIATE Y'ALL BRINGING THIS PROCESS FORWARD BECAUSE I THINK IT HELPS WHEN I HAVE TO COMMUNICATE WITH MY CONSTITUENTS THAT THERE ARE STEPS TO GO THROUGH.
UM, AND SO I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT PART OF IT.
I'M A LITTLE WARY ABOUT STEP ONE AND THE ASSESSMENT OF IT, UM, JUST BECAUSE IT'S USUALLY LIKE ONE, MAYBE TWO PEOPLE WHO SAY EVERYONE'S SPEEDING DOWN THIS STREET OR THIS, YOU KNOW, STOP SIGN IS A HAZARD.
AND SO TO GET REASSURANCE THAT 50% OF THAT NEIGHBORHOOD ALSO FEELS THAT WAY WOULD BE A REALLY LARGE UNDERTAKING THAT MOST PEOPLE WOULDN'T DO.
UM, NOW IF THERE'S A NEIGHBORHOOD WITH AN HOA, THAT MIGHT ACTUALLY BE POSSIBLE, BUT I, I HAVE ALLEN BROOK IN MY MIND BECAUSE I KEEP GETTING THE ONE RESIDENT WHO WANTS US TO ASSESS TRAFFIC CALMING THAT AREA.
AND, UM, I, I CAN'T SEE HER GETTING 50% OF HER NEIGHBOR'S CONSENSUS IF THEY FEEL THE SAME WAY OR NOT.
SO I SEE YOU TRIED TO ADD THE, UM, YOU KNOW, CONTINGENCY THAT I COULD SIGN OFF THAT YES, 50% FEELS THIS WAY, BUT I MEAN, I GOTTA BE, I DON'T KNOW IF 50% PERCENT FEELS THAT WAY EITHER.
SO I GUESS, YOU KNOW, WHAT I'M SAYING IS, YOU KNOW, SHE, SHE FEELS THAT THERE'S A PROBLEM AND I GUESS I LOOK TO YOU AS THE TRAFFIC ENGINEER TO SAY, YEAH, UH, I'VE ASSESSED THIS AND AS AN EXPERT IN THIS FIELD, I AGREE THERE'S A PROBLEM AND FOR ME THAT'S GOOD ENOUGH.
I DON'T KNOW IF I COULD HONESTLY SAY, YEAH, 50% OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD'S GONNA FEEL THIS WAY.
THAT'S THE ONLY, THAT'S THE ONLY, UH, POINT I GOT STUCK ON.
AND OF COURSE WE DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO INCLUDE THAT AS A FORMAL PART, BUT IT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT IS AN OPTION THAT WE COULD HAVE FOR COUNCIL MEMBERS, UM, SO THAT THE CONSTITUENTS WOULDN'T NECESSARILY KNOW THAT THAT IS SOMETHING AND START HOUNDING YOU FOR THAT
UM, SO WE COULD, YES, IF YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE SPECIFIC, THEN MAYBE JUST SOMETHING MORE GENERIC LIKE THE, THE TRAFFIC ENGINEER AGREES WITH THE COMPLAINT AND THE ASSESSMENT AND HERE ARE THE SOLUTIONS AND THE COUNCIL MEMBER AND CITY MANAGER AGREES AS WELL.
MAYBE, MAYBE THAT'S BETTER THAN PUTTING ME CERTIFYING THAT 50% OF THE AREA.
'CAUSE THAT THAT WOULD BE DIFFICULT TO ASSESS.
I GUESS CHARLES, I I JUST HAVE A CONCERN THAT IT WILL GREATLY TAX, YOU KNOW, OUR TRAFFIC ENGINEER IF WE'RE RESPOND DOING TRAFFIC STUDIES BASED ON SINGLE COMPLAINTS MM-HMM
AND, AND TO GET THE, UH, THE SOLUTION ADOPTED, YOU'RE, YOU WANT TO HAVE ACCEPTANCE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD MM-HMM
SO I THINK YOU GOTTA GET THERE ANYWAY.
I DON'T KNOW HOW I WOULD GO DOOR TO DOOR TO ALLEN BROOK TO SEE IF ALL THESE PEOPLE FEEL THE SAME WAY.
I MEAN, THAT, THAT WOULD JUST, I DON'T THINK THAT'S A REASONABLE REQUEST.
I UNDERSTAND YOUR POINT THOUGH, BECAUSE I, I WAS ALSO WONDERING HOW IS MATT GOING TO ASSESS ALL THESE DIFFERENT SITUATIONS? YES.
BUT ALSO I DON'T SEE MY CONSTITUENT WELL, OR ME GOING AND KNOCKING ON ALL THESE DOORS SAYING MAYBE THE SOLUTIONS, HEY, DO YOU THINK THIS IS A EYE TRAFFIC AREA WITH SAFETY ENGAGEMENT? MAYBE ON THAT END, SHE COULD RE REQUEST HELP WITH ENGAGING THE COMMUNITY.
LET'S, LET ME GET SOME COMMENTS FROM COUNSEL.
ADDING TO WHAT YOU WERE SAYING.
50% OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD, 'CAUSE THERE ARE RESIDENTS WHO PROBABLY DON'T GO ON THE EAST END, NORTH, SOUTH, THE OPPOSITE END OF THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD TO KNOW WHAT TRAFFIC'S GOING TO BE LIKE.
SO INSTEAD OF 50% OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD, WHY NOT 50% OF THE RESIDENTS ON THAT STREET? I THINK THAT'S REASONABLE THAT, UM, IF YOU HAVE ONE PERSON KNOCKING ON THEIR NEIGHBORS ON EITHER SIDE ACROSS THE STREET, MAYBE ORGANIZING THE PEOPLE
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ON THE STREET TOGETHER TO SAY, HEY, WE RECOGNIZE THIS BECAUSE WE'RE HERE 24 7, 365.I CAN AGREE WITH NOT GETTING 50% OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND THEN ON THE FLIP SIDE OF IT, I DON'T MIND GETTING THE PHONE CALLS, BUT ARE WE REALLY GONNA KNOCK ON EVERY DOOR IN A THOUSAND HOME NEIGHBORHOOD TO FIND OUT IF 50% OF THE PEOPLE WHO MAY NOT EVEN TRAVEL ON THE OTHER END OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD AGREE WITH A RESIDENT THAT SAYS THERE'S AN ISSUE HERE.
NOW ALSO, PLEASE UNDERSTAND THIS, THE REASON WHY I, I WANT TO STRAY, I WANNA STAY AWAY FROM ACTUALLY USING THE WORD NEIGHBORHOOD.
SO IF IT'S ONLY, IF WE IDENTIFY THAT THE IMPACT AREA IS ONLY TWO OR THREE STREETS AND THAT'S ALL THAT WOULD BE IMPACTED, THEN WE, THAT, THAT'S, THAT THE 50% WOULD BE LIMITED TO THE IMPACT AREA.
WANNA FROM MR. PRESSLEY? SO I, I WOULD TEND TO AGREE WITH THOSE COMMENTS HONESTLY.
UH, MY PREFERENCE WOULD BE TO DELETE THE COUNCIL MEMBER OPTION ALTOGETHER.
BECAUSE REALLY IT PUTS US IN A PRECARIOUS POSITION.
AND EVEN IF THERE IS 50%, LET'S SAY THERE'S 51%, LET'S SAY SOMEONE WAS AN ENTERPRISING COUNCIL MEMBER AND THEY DID KNOCK ON THE DOORS AND THERE WAS 51 OR 55%, YOU KNOW, THERE, THERE'S A, A PROBABLY A MAJORITY OF POLITICIANS THAT AREN'T GONNA WANNA SIGN OFF ON THAT IN TURN 49% OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD AGAINST THEM.
I, YOU KNOW, IN MY OPINION, WE SHOULD LOSE THAT ALL THE WAY.
NOW I UNDERSTAND FRANK'S POINT ABOUT A SINGLE COMPLAINT NOT WANTING TO TAX STAFF.
SO MAYBE WE JUST INCREASE THAT THRESHOLD, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO HEAR FROM, YOU KNOW, STAFF HAS TO HEAR FROM, YOU KNOW, MORE THAN ONE, WHATEVER THAT THRESHOLD WOULD BE.
BUT WE CAN INCREASE THAT THRESHOLD.
BUT IT, IT JUST SEEMS LIKE THAT'S A, UH, FOR THE MOST PART, FAIRLY UNREALISTIC THAT, THAT THAT PARTICULAR PROVISION AND THAT THAT'S PERFECTLY FINE.
WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GAVE COUNCIL MEMBERS THE OPPORTUNITY, BECAUSE YOU DO KNOW YOUR DISTRICTS REALLY WELL.
YOU DO HEAR FROM YOUR CONSTITUENTS.
WE THOUGHT THAT THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE OF BENEFIT TO YOU.
AND SO I, IT, IT'S, IT CAN BE TAKEN OUT EASILY.
AND MAYOR, I, I'LL TAG IN WHERE CHARLES AND, AND, UH, UH, COUNCILMAN PRESSLEY JUMPED IN THERE.
MY CONCERN WAS WHAT'S THE DESIGNATED IMPACT AREA AND HOW EARLY IN THE PROCESS THAT GETS IDENTIFIED.
BECAUSE AS COUNCILPERSON HEAD COURT INDICATED, YOU KNOW, I, I HAVE SOME SMALL SUBDIVISIONS, IT'D BE EASY TO DO.
THEY MAKE UP THREE OR FOUR STREETS.
I HAVE SOME LARGE SUBDIVISIONS THAT ARE 10 OR MORE STREETS THAT DOES NOT MAKE SENSE BECAUSE AS CHARLES POINTED OUT, SOME OF THOSE THAT NEVER GO TO THAT SIDE OF THEIR SUBDIVISION.
SO HOW EARLY IN THE PROCESS DOES SOMEBODY COME IN AND SAY, OKAY, FOR THIS TYPE OF PROJECT, THIS IS THE IMPACT AREA.
WE NEED 50% OF THE PEOPLE THAT ARE GONNA BE DIRECTLY IMPACTED.
'CAUSE YOU MAY FIX THE TRAFFIC ON MY STREET, BUT SOME OF THE CALMING PROCESSES IS TO PUSH TRAFFIC INTO SOMEBODY ELSE'S STREET.
WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE'RE NOT JUST MOVING THE PROBLEM OVER.
UM, AND, AND I LIKED THE APPROACH.
I LIKED EVERYTHING IN THAT I THOUGHT IT WAS WELL, WELL DONE.
BUT I ALSO AGREE WITH, WE DON'T, WE DON'T, AS A COUNCIL PERSON, I DON'T NEED TO BE INVOLVED IN THAT LEVEL OF THE PROCESS.
UM, YOU KNOW, I LIKE TO BE IN THE PROCESS THAT WE'RE DOING UP HERE.
LET'S TALK IN GENERAL, OUR CITIZENS NEED A WAY TO BRING ISSUES FORWARD.
Y'ALL NEED A WAY TO BE ABLE TO PROPERLY PROCESS 'EM AND THEN BRING IT BACK TO US AND SAY, OKAY, THIS IS WHAT WE DETERMINE.
YES, THERE'S A PROBLEM, OR NO, THERE'S NOT.
AND WE'LL DEFEND THAT EITHER WAY.
UH, AND TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION SPECIFICALLY, STEP ONE IS WHERE STAFF IDENTIFIES THE IMPACT AREA.
SO WHEN THEY COME IN AND SAY THAT THERE'S A PROBLEM, WE IDENTIFY THE IMPACT AREA, THEN WE GO OUT AND DO A QUICK VISUAL, UH, UH, A VISUAL INSPECTION OF WHAT COULD BE THE PROBLEMS. I'M GOOD WITH THAT.
MY QUESTION WAS ALSO THE 50%, THE IMPACT AREA, JUST SINCE YOU SHOWED EL CHACO AND PINEHURST MM-HMM
WHAT, WHAT WAS THE IMPACT AREA OF THAT? SO YOUR THREE EAST WEST STREETS, THE, THAT WAS THE, UH, IMPACT AREA.
UH, THOSE WERE THE IMPACTED AREAS.
REMEMBER THAT? SO IT WAS JUST THOSE SPECIFIC STREETS.
IT WASN'T ALL THE OTHER, IT, SO PLEASE UNDERSTAND, THIS IS A, A FAILING ON MY PART.
UM, UNTIL ABOUT TWO MONTHS AGO, I DIDN'T KNOW RESOLUTION 1390 EXISTED.
WHEN I CAME ON, JOSE GAVE ME THE FIRST TWO AND SAID, COME UP WITH A TRAFFIC CALMING POLICY.
AND I NEVER THOUGHT TO LOOK FOR IT.
UM, IT WAS DURING MY OTHER RESEARCH FOR THIS, UM, THIS UPDATE THAT I FOUND THAT.
AND SO WHEN PINEHURST WAS DONE, I'VE ALMOST EXACTLY
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FOLLOWED THE POLICY BECAUSE THAT'S THE, THAT'S THE PROCEDURES FOR NOW.UH, IT, UM, STANDARD PROCEDURES.
UM, BUT WE DIDN'T ESTABLISH A, AN IMPACT AREA OR HAVE THE, UM, THE, UH, THE PETITIONS.
ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS? WELL, I JUST WANNA ADD, MAYOR, UM, YOU KNOW, I I I REALLY FEEL THAT THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO REALLY EMPOWER THE NEIGHBORHOODS TO DO SOMETHING FOR THEIR, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD.
UM, I DO HAVE TO AGREE THAT IN NEIGHBORHOODS THAT DON'T HAVE AN HOA OR A CIVIC ASSOCIATION, THAT MAY BE A LITTLE MORE TRYING.
UM, AND I THINK I, I DEFINITELY WANT TO TAKE OUT THE PART WHERE WE SIGN OFF ON IT, BUT THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THEM TO STEP UP AND SOMEONE IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD TO REALLY PUT IT TOGETHER AND MAYBE PARTNERING WITH THE CITIZENS ENGAGEMENT, UH, DEPARTMENT OR SABRINA'S DEPARTMENT.
UM, BUT I, I DO, I THINK MAYBE ALONG THE WAY WANT TO GARNER A LITTLE BIT MORE DISCUSSION ON WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE.
AND YOU KNOW, SO FAR I THINK I HAVE, UM, THE MISSOURI ONE THAT I TURNED INTO YOU, AND I KNOW SHE'S BEEN PRETTY ADAMANT, BUT THAT'S REALLY THE ONLY ONE THAT'S TOLD ME ABOUT TRAFFIC WITHIN THAT AREA.
SO THAT'S WHEN I WOULD HAVE TO GO BACK AND SAY, YOU KNOW, HEY, YOU'RE THE ONLY ONE THAT'S REPORTED THIS, BUT THERE'S THIS THAT YOU CAN TAKE A LOOK AT IF YOU WANNA PURSUE IT.
NOW THE FLIP SIDE TO THAT IS THAT WE HAVE A CIVIC ASSOCIATION THAT SHE CAN COME AND SPEAK TO AND, AND ALL OF THAT, AGAIN, I JUST WORRY ABOUT THOSE THAT DO NOT HAVE ONE.
AND, UM, SO I THINK WE PROBABLY NEED TO DISCUSS THIS A LITTLE FURTHER.
UM, I GUESS HERE'S MY COMMENT.
SO I THINK THIS IS PRETTY SIMPLE.
I THINK IT WAS SOME GOOD DISCUSSION.
I THINK I AGREE WITH EVERY COMMENT THAT WAS MADE.
I COULD TELL YOU, UM, I'VE HAD MANY REQUESTS FOR SPEED BUMPS OR, OR SPEED HUMPS THAT THEY USED TO BE CALLED NOW, EVEN IF THEY'RE CALLED SPEED CUSHIONS THROUGHOUT THE CITY.
OBVIOUSLY IN DISTRICT THREE WHEN I WAS SERVED AS A COUNCIL MEMBER.
AND IT WAS ALWAYS, THEY'RE PROHIBITED BY COUNSEL AND OBVIOUSLY THE CITIZEN'S RESPONSIBLE.
AREN'T YOU ON COUNSEL? I MEAN, ISN'T THIS SOMETHING YOU CAN ADDRESS? SO I SAID, IT'S KIND OF HARD TO COME BACK WITH, UH, OBVIOUSLY THE SPEED CUSHIONS.
IT'S GOOD TO KNOW THAT THAT, 'CAUSE THAT WAS THE BIGGEST RESISTANCE WAS OUR FIRE, YOU KNOW, FIRE EMS PERSONNEL.
SO KNOWING THAT THAT'S BEEN MITIGATED.
UM, AND WE CAN'T PUT, OBVIOUSLY WE CAN'T PUT SPEED CUSHIONS EVERYWHERE THAT, WHERE THERE'S A REQUEST.
BUT I THINK IT COULD BE, I WANT TO REALLY MAKE IT PRETTY SIMPLE.
AND I THINK WE RELY ON DATA AND, AND REALLY SAFETY ASPECTS.
I MEAN, LEAVING A COUNCIL MEMBER TO TRY TO CANVAS, YOU KNOW, 50% AND YOU KNOW, ALL THAT.
I, I WOULDN'T WANT TO DO THAT.
UM, I WOULD SAY FIRST IT'S ALWAYS GONNA START WITH THE CITIZEN, RIGHT? YES SIR.
SO THEY MAY CONTACT THEIR COUNCIL MEMBER, WHICH IS FINE.
AND I THINK IT'S ALWAYS BEEN OUR ROLE THAT WE'RE GONNA CONTACT CITY ADMINISTRATION, CITY MANAGER, WHOEVER IT MAY BE, IF THEY CONTACT THE CITY, MAYBE YOUR OFFICE AND, AND ASK THE SAME QUESTION, THEN IT WILL STILL GO THROUGH THE CITY MANAGER IN AT SOME POINT TO HOPEFULLY LET THE COUNCIL MEMBER KNOW THAT A REQUEST HAS BEEN MADE.
SO THE NEXT STEP WOULD BE, UM, 'CAUSE I, I, I'M GLAD WE'RE NOT USING THE TERM NEIGHBORHOOD, UM, BUT IMPACTED AREA AND ONLY REALLY YOU CAN DECIDE WHAT THAT IS, WHAT THAT MAY BE.
AND THAT THERE, I'M SURE THERE'S SO MANY, UM, ASPECTS OF WHAT THAT, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES IT COULD BE THE, JUST THE NEXT TWO STREETS MAY JUST BE THE STREET THAT'S, THAT'S IN QUESTION.
SO I THINK STEP ONE, CITIZEN CONTACTS US.
STEP TWO, YOU IDENTIFY, UH, OR IT'LL GO TO YOUR OFFICE AND THEN Y'ALL IDENTIFY WHAT IS THE IMPACTED AREA.
AND I THINK WE KEEP IT SIMPLE.
IT COULD BE JUST, I JUST WROTE DOWN, YOU KNOW, YOU GET 50 SIGNATURES FROM PEOPLE WHO RESIDE IN THE IMPACTED AREA AND THEN AT LEAST IT'S SOMETHING WE KNOW THAT, THAT YOU'RE COMING FORTH WITH, UH, SOME TYPE OF PETITION WITH, WITH INTERESTED PARTIES.
AND THEN THE REST OF YOUR PROCESS IS PRETTY, I THINK IT'S WAS PRETTY GOOD, AS YOU SAID, AS FAR AS GOING THROUGH AND, AND, AND MAKING SURE THAT IT MEETS THE CRITERIA.
AND THEN SECOND FUNDING AND THEN WE'LL, THEN IT WILL BE IN FRONT OF US OF WHAT WE HAVE TO PRIORITIZE AS FAR AS FUNDING.
BUT THAT'S KIND OF MY TAKE ON IT.
I THINK WE CAN KEEP IT SIMPLE, BUT I DON'T WANT US TO DO PERCENTAGES AND, AND SO ON.
IT'S HARD TO GET PEOPLE TO DO ALMOST ANYTHING WHEN IT COMES.
I THINK PEOPLE DON'T WANNA SIGN ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF.
BUT I, BUT IF, IF, IF THERE'S THAT MUCH OF A AN ISSUE, PEOPLE WILL SIGN A PETITION, I THINK, IF IT COMES TO SAFETY, ESPECIALLY IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD.
SO THAT'D BE KIND OF MY TAKE ON IT.
SO ARE YOU, JUST TO CLARIFY, WHEN YOU'RE TALKING THE 50%, ARE YOU, ARE YOU ALL TALKING THE FIRST PART OF THAT PROCESS? 'CAUSE THERE'S A POINT TOWARDS THE END WHEN YOU'RE TALKING SOLUTIONS WHERE THERE'S ANOTHER POINT WHERE YOU, YOU'RE LOOKING FOR THAT BUY-IN FROM THE IMPACT AREA.
AND THAT ONE, THAT ONE'S PRETTY CRITICAL, MAINLY BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE YOU'RE REALLY DECIDING, ARE WE GONNA PUT IN ROAD HOMES? ARE WE GONNA CHANGE CONFIGURATIONS? I, I, I THINK THESE THREE STEPS THAT I DESCRIBED IN THE PROCESSES, LIKE WE DON'T NEED TO DO AN IMPACT OR A STUDY ON EVERY STREET IN BAYTOWN, EVEN IF EVERYBODY REQUESTED IT.
BUT, YOU KNOW, FIRST IT STARTS WITH THE CITIZEN.
SECOND WE, WE GO, OKAY, WHAT IS THE IMPACTED AREA THAT IS GONNA REQUIRE SOME STAFF TIME MM-HMM
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REGARDLESS, RIGHT? AND THEN, UM, AND THEN THE NEXT STEP WOULD SAY, OKAY, THIS IS THE AREA, THIS IS GIVE THAT, THAT PERSON THAT PRESENTED IT TO US, YOU GIVE THEM THE OPPORTUNITY TO, YOU KNOW, HERE'S THE PETITION.
YOU FILL IT OUT, YOU KNOW, NAME, ADDRESS, CONTACT INFORMATION.
ONCE THEY HAVE THAT, THEN THE REST OF THE PROCESS WILL BEGIN.
THEN YOU DO THE ACTUAL DATA COLLECTION AND CRITERIA.
THAT WAY WE'RE NOT, I GUESS, WASTING TOO MANY RESOURCES JUST TO KIND OF THAT PRELIMINARY TYPE LOOK.
BUT, YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S SOMETHING DIFFERENT, THAT'S FINE.
BUT I'D LIKE TO STAY AWAY FROM ANY KIND OF PERCENTAGE OF A NEIGHBORHOOD OR, OR EVEN AN IMPACTED AREA THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE PROCESS.
EXCUSE ME, THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE PROCESS.
JUST TO INITIATE THIS, JUST TO INITIATE, MATT, CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE VERY, TO THE ACTUAL, SO AT THE END, SO GO BACK TO TELL ME WHEN IT COMES TO APPROVAL IS WHAT HE'S ASKING ABOUT? YEAH.
THE, WAS IT RIGHT BEFORE THAT HAPPENED THAT'S GONNA BE APPROVED TO GO FORWARD WITH? YEAH.
THE NEIGHBORHOOD ENDORSEMENT IS REALLY A CRITICAL STEP WHERE YOU, YOU DO GO BACK OUT AND LOOK FOR PERCENTAGE.
UM, WHICH, WHICH IS PRETTY HIGH.
UM, BUT THAT, THAT ONE IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE THE, THE IMPACT AREA ACTUALLY IS DECIDING, YEAH, WE WANT THIS AND THEN STAFF CAN TAKE IT TO COUNCIL, GET THE APPROVAL, FUNDING, ALL THAT STUFF.
SO I WANNA MAKE SURE YOU ALL ARE STILL GOOD WITH THAT, WITH A PERCENTAGE BEING IN THAT PORTION OF IT.
UM, IT KEEPS IT OBJECTIVE FOR US.
OTHERWISE THEN WE'RE KIND OF MAKING A CALL ON DOES THE IMPACT AREA WANT IT OR DO THEY NOT WANT IT? SO I GUESS IF YOU'RE ASKING ME, I'LL TELL YOU, UM, I DON'T REALLY LIKE, 70% IS PRETTY HIGH TO GET, YOU KNOW, I KNOW BY NEIGHBORHOOD WE WERE TRYING TO PASS SOME SIMPLE JUST DEED RESTRICTIONS AND YOU KNOW, IT SAYS YOU HAVE TO HAVE 75% OF, OF EVERY HOMEOWNER TO PARTICIPATE.
YOU'RE NOT GONNA GET IT IN A, IN A THOUSAND, YOU KNOW, A THOUSAND HOME NEIGHBORHOOD.
UM, I WOULD LIKE TO GET AWAY FROM THE PERCENTAGE IF WE CAN.
WE MAYBE WE SET, YOU KNOW, IT'S GONNA BE HARD 'CAUSE YOU'RE GONNA HAVE DIFFERENT NEIGHBORHOODS.
SOME HAVE MORE HOMES THAN OTHERS.
BUT, UM, IF YOU'RE SAYING ON THE BACK END OF THE IMPACTED AREA, 'CAUSE WE'RE GETTING AWAY FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD, UM, I GUESS TERMINOLOGY, I GUESS WHATEVER COUNCIL, IF THEY WANNA STICK WITH 50% OR SOMETHING SIMILAR OF THE IMPACTED AREA, THEN I GUESS, UH, A CITIZEN HAS SOME WORK TO DO.
UM, IF, IF IT'S 70%, I THINK THAT'S PRETTY HIGH, OR WE CAN, YOU CAN PUT ANOTHER NUMBER IN THERE.
SO YOU NEED A HUNDRED SIGNATURES FROM PEOPLE WHO ARE IN THE IMPACTED AREA.
BUT I THINK THAT'S MUCH EASIER TO GET AND IT'S MUCH EASIER TO VERIFY THAN TRYING TO FIGURE OUT A PERCENTAGE OF FAVOR.
AND AS I THINK COUNCILMAN PRESSLEY SAID, WELL, EVEN IF IT'S 70% PEOPLE APPROVE IT, WHAT ABOUT THE OTHER 30% THAT ARE NOT HAPPY WITH IT? SO I THINK WE TRY TO REALLY PUT IT ON THE, THE IMPACTED AREA AND THE RESIDENTS AND LET THEM KNOW THAT THIS IS WHAT THEY'RE BRINGING FORTH.
OUR RESPONSIBILITY AS COUNCIL AT THAT POINT WOULD JUST BE GOVERNING THE PROGRAM AND PRIORITIZING WHICH ONES GET DONE AND WHICH ONES GET FUNDED.
BUT, BUT YOU WOULDN'T WANNA SEE IF A MAJORITY OF THE IMPACTED AREA WANTS IT.
NOW THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT
OR 51% IF YOU WANT 'EM TO SAY A MAJORITY.
YOU ARE GONNA SEND THEM LETTERS OR, SO IT IS ACTUALLY OUTLINED IN THE RESOLUTION OR IN THE, IN THE, UM, IT SPECIFICALLY STEP FIVE, NOT LOOKING AT THE INITIATION, BUT IT'S STEP FIVE.
THEY, UM, THE LANGUAGE IN THE PETITION IS APPROVED BY PLANNING AND ZONING STAFF HELPS DEVELOP IT AND IT DOES HAVE TO BE SENT OUT BY CERTIFIED MAIL 60 AND IT GOES TO THE PROPERTY OWNERS AS OPPOSED TO THE RESIDENCE.
UM, AND, AND THIS IS WHAT'S IN THE, THE CURRENT PROCESS.
UM, AND SO IT DOES REQUIRE 70% OF THE PROPERTY OWNERS IN THE IMPACTED AREA TO, UM, APPROVE OF THIS.
AND IF THEY, HOW DO THEY APPROVE? THEY SEND THE LETTER BACK TO YOU AND SIGN IT? YES MA'AM.
WELL, IT COULD BE OUTTA THE ONE.
I JUST DON'T THINK MOST, I THINK WHAT IT SHOULD BE THEN, IF THAT'S THE CASE, THEN IF, LET'S JUST SAY IT'S 51%, I, I DON'T CARE.
BUT IT WOULD BE, IT WOULD BE, WE SEND IT OUT AND IT WOULD BE OUT OF 51% OUT OF WHAT WE RECEIVE BACK.
IF IT'S SEVEN PEOPLE, IT'S SEVEN PEOPLE.
BUT THOSE ARE THE ONES RESPONDED.
BUT EVERYBODY HAD THE OPPORTUNITY.
AND ALSO REMEMBER THAT THIS POLICY WAS WRITTEN 22 YEARS AGO.
AS OPPOSED TO WHAT WE HAVE NOW.
SO THAT THE, THE THE MAILING BACK AND THINGS LIKE THAT, THOSE ARE ALWAYS THE, THE DETAILS THAT CAN BE ADJUSTED.
WE CAN LOOK AT THE DE I GUESS THE, THE BIGGEST THING IS WOULD YOU WANT TO HEAR, YOU KNOW, IS IT TWO RESIDENTS OR IS IT TRULY LIKE 60% OF THE IMPACTED AREA? WE CAN LOOK AT THE PROCESS OF HOW TO DO THAT.
AND ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU CONSIDER THE COST OF EACH ONE OF THOSE SPEED CUSHIONS IS AROUND A THOUSAND DOLLARS A PIECE.
SO THE INSTALLATION IN, UM, PINEHURST WAS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF $45,000 FOR THAT INSTALLATION.
BUT I DO THINK YOU NEED, I MEAN, YOU'VE GOTTA HAVE SOME PERCENTAGE BECAUSE THERE ARE PEOPLE IN PINEHURST THAT HATE 'EM AND WANT 'EM RIPPED OUT AND, AND YEAH.
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DON'T WANNA SPEND 45,000 AND FIND OUT EVERYBODY.I JUST, I JUST, IT'S GONNA BE, I, I THINK WE'RE GONNA ADD A BUREAUCRATIC, BUREAUCRATIC PROCESS TO SOMETHING AND SAY WE WANT 51% 'CAUSE WE WANT THE MAJORITY OF FOLKS TO, TO BE IN FAVOR.
BUT A NEIGHBORHOOD LIKE PINEHURST, I MEAN, HOW LONG IS IT GONNA TAKE BEFORE PEOPLE RESPOND OR, YOU KNOW, UH, I UNDERSTAND WE WANTED TO SAY, OH, EVERYBODY'S HAPPY WITH IT.
I JUST DON'T THINK IT'S REALISTIC OF, EVEN IF WE DO ELECTRONICALLY AND, AND YOU KNOW, I KNOW THAT THIS WAS WRITTEN BEFORE SOCIAL MEDIA AND STUFF, BUT THERE HAS TO BE A WAY THAT WE DON'T MAKE IT SO BUREAUCRATIC WITH SENDING LETTERS AND CERTIFIED STUFF.
MAYBE WE HAVE PUBLIC HEARING, I DON'T KNOW.
BUT IT'S JUST, I'D LIKE TO KEEP IT AS SIMPLE AS POSSIBLE.
TRYING THE CONCEPT OF TRYING TO SAY THAT WE WANNA MAKE SURE EVERYBODY AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE IS HAPPY WITH IT.
BUT YOU, THAT'S A CALL THAT WE HAVE TO MAKE SOMETIMES NO DIFFERENT THAN ANY ITEM.
YOU KNOW, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO MAKE A CALL WHAT'S BEST FOR YOUR DISTRICT.
AND SO, UM, IF YOU SAY, HEY, I KNOW THERE'S SOME PEOPLE AGAINST IT, BUT IT, IT INCREASES SAFETY, UH, FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD, THEN YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO MAKE A DECISION.
WE HAVE TO MAKE A DECISION ALONG WITH YOU.
IT'S NOT GONNA BE HARD TO GET THOSE WHO CARE.
IF THEY DON'T CARE, THEY'RE NOT GONNA CARE EITHER WAY, IF IT'S A MAJORITY OR NOT.
IF THEY, I THINK THE 70% NUMBER IS TOO HIGH.
I THINK 50, 51% IS TOO BORDERLINE.
YOU WANT TO BE SURE THAT IT'S SOMETHING THAT THEY WANT.
I THINK 60, 55, 60% IS A NICE ROUND NUMBER OF THOSE WHO RESPOND.
BECAUSE IF THEY RESPOND, DO YOU THEY CARE? NO, I'M GOOD WITH THAT.
YOU KNOW, ONE, ONE THING WE COULD DO OR CONSIDER IS TO LOOK AT THE WAY WE DO ZONING, WHEREAS THERE IS A PROPOSAL AND WE LET PEOPLE KNOW OF THE PROPOSAL MM-HMM
AND THEN WE LISTEN TO THOSE WHO ACTUALLY ARE PASSIONATE ENOUGH TO SAY, MM-HMM
SO IT'S KIND OF FLIPPING IT AROUND THE OTHER WAY, INSTEAD OF LOOKING FOR 50% APPROVAL, SET A THRESHOLD THAT SAYS, LOOK, IF MORE THAN 10% OF THE, THE RESIDENTS IN THIS AREA ARE OPPOSED TO IT, THEY THEN, THEN MAYBE WE RECONSIDER AT THAT POINT.
SO IT'S JUST THE OPPOSITE WAY OF LOOKING AT, INSTEAD OF SETTING A THRESHOLD FOR APPROVAL, YOU SET A THRESHOLD FOR DISAPPROVAL SIMILAR TO WHAT WE DO WITH, UH, WITH OTHER ACTIONS.
WELL, THE STOP ACTIONS OF THE CITY, I THINK THAT'S HOW WE DO WITH STOP SIGNS, RIGHT? THE CITY MANAGER HAS THE ABILITY TO PLACE STOP SIGNS, BUT THERE'S AN 90 DAY PERIOD WHERE IF THERE'S COMPLAINTS RECEIVED, THEN WE HAVE TO, BECAUSE I AGREE AT THIS POINT, THERE'S BEEN SOME DECISION MAKING AND SOME ANALYSIS THAT DETERMINES THIS IS VERY GOOD FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
THIS IS GOING TO IMPROVE SAFETY.
HOWEVER, IF THERE ARE A NUMBER OF PEOPLE PASSIONATE ENOUGH TO OPPOSE IT, THEN WE, WE NEED TO LOOK AT THAT AND RECONSIDER AT THAT POINT.
ARE YOU GUYS OKAY IF, IF WE BROUGHT SOMETHING BACK LIKE THAT? WELL, I THINK YOU HEARD A LOT OF THE COMMENTS.
YOU KNOW, I I, IF IT'S 60%, I'M FINE WITH THAT.
BUT WHAT I'M NOT FINE WITH IS SAYING YOU HAVE TO HAVE 60% OF THOSE PEOPLE TO APPROVE IT.
UM, I'M FINE WITH PEOPLE WHO RESPOND IF, LIKE, AS, AS COUNCILMAN JOHNSON SAID, IF THE ONES THAT REALLY ARE, ARE INTERESTED IN FOR OR AGAINST, IF THEY RESPOND, THEN, THEN THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE TO CONSIDER AND WE RELY ON THEM INSTEAD OF HAVING A CANVAS AND ALL THAT.
I, I, I THINK RICK THOUGH, HAD KIND OF HIT THE NAIL ON THE HEAD.
I, I, I LIKE THAT APPROACH A LITTLE BETTER BECAUSE IT HAS GONE THROUGH THE PROCESS.
THESE THINGS HAVE BEEN PROFESSIONALLY DETERMINED BY STAFF THAT THE SOLUTION IS JUSTIFIED.
SO IF WE GIVE THE OPPOSITION A CHANCE TO BE HEARD, YOU KNOW, MAYBE THAT'S A LITTLE BETTER WAY TO APPROACH IT.
LIKE RICK JUST DESCRIBED, ACTUALLY DOESN'T PUT ANY OF YOU IN A DIFFICULT POSITION AT THAT POINT.
BUT THIS, AND THIS IS IN THE BACK END, I DON'T KNOW.
I'M NOT SURE ON THE FRONT END.
I THINK YOU JUST HAVE TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, IF IT'S 50 SIGNATURES, IT'S JUST TO GET THE PROCESS GOING THAT THERE'S INTEREST AND THEN ON THE BACK END THEN THAT'S THE, THE FINAL APPROVAL AS YOU SAY.
WELL, LET'S, LET'S WORK ON THAT AND, AND, UH, WE'LL COME BACK.
MOST IMPORTANT THING IS WE WANT 'EM MAD AT YOU, NOT US
I WAS A CONSULTANT FOR, UH, ENOUGH YEARS THAT, UH, YES, I, I ACCEPT MY ROLE.
WELL, NOT EVERYBODY'S GONNA LIKE OUR DECISIONS.
I MEAN, WE'RE NEVER GONNA GET A HUNDRED PERCENT APPROVAL, BUT I THINK IT'S JUST MAKING SURE WE HEAR THOSE THAT ARE VOICING THEIR OPINION.
[c. Discuss any or all of the agenda items on the City Council Regular Meeting Agenda for April 22, 2021, which is attached below.]
ONE C.IF THERE'S ANYBODY THAT WANTS TO PULL OR TO DISCUSS ANY POSTAGE AGENDA ITEMS, WE DO HAVE ONE MAYOR MEETING THAT'S GONNA START IN FIVE MINUTES.
YEAH, WE, WE DO HAVE ONE MORE.
WE WANTED TO QUICKLY GO OVER, UH, SOME OF THOSE, UH, PROPOSED CODE AMENDMENTS WITH YOU.
SEE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THOSE.
WE THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT FOR YOU.
I'M IRWIN BURDEN THE CITY ENGINEER.
UM, A PLEASURE TO BE HERE TONIGHT.
UM, I WAS GONNA ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE ON THE, UH, THOSE ORDINANCE CHANGES.
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UM, YOU GOT CONCERN REGARDING THE, IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S, IS IT 10 OR 11? 11? 10.I HAVE A NUMBER OF QUESTIONS AND, AND OKAY.
THIS MAY BE MOOT AS WE GET INTO THE OKAY.
WELL WE CAN, WE CAN GET INTO IT LATER.
IT'S JUST, I MEAN, WE'RE GONNA START IN FIVE MINUTES.
WE'LL, WE'LL HAVE A NICE SUMMARY DURING THE, DURING THE, UH SURE.
LET'S TAKE, LET'S RE I MEAN LET'S RECESS AND TAKE A QUICK BREAK AND WE'LL START BACK UP.
BEING THAT WE'VE ADDRESSED ALL POSTED AGENDA ITEM FOR OUR WORK SESSION.
SO THIS WORK SESSION IS NOW ADJOURNED.